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Like Jeb Bush, Democratic Vice Presidential nominee Tim Kaine has a phenotype that generates involuntary disgust among normal people. And, like Bush, Kaine is clearly possessed by a deep self-loathing and a hatred for the people to which he belongs. Hillary Clinton has just claimed that all criticism of America’s immigration disaster is inspired by Alt Right “racism,” so we feel free to mention the obvious truth: Kaine, and all immigration enthusiasm, is ultimately motivated by treason—to America; and to its Founding stock.

Kaine has been accused of essentially admitting in a recent speech that Democratic policies would be bad for white people, reportedly proclaiming, “We have to put ourselves in a place where we are the minority” [Kaine Slips: White People Need To Be Minority , by Edmund Kozak, Lifezette, August 12, 2016]. It’s interesting, and encouraging, that a mainstream conservative site like Lifezette is calling out Kaine’s frankly anti-white views. But the truth of Kaine’s comments is more complicated, and more dangerous.

Kaine didn’t actually call for whites to be a minority. Instead, drawing on his own experience as a missionary in Honduras, he said:

We’ve got to put ourselves in situations where we’re in the minority and come to understand a reality that’s different than the one that we just take for granted every day. We have to.

[Minority Report, by David Emery, Snopes, August 17, 2016]

Kaine called on whites not to be “walled off, separated, segregated on the other side of town and move with people like you.”

But why do whites “have to” undergo these experiences?

As we all know from the looney-Left “white privilege” meme, all whites are automatically to be considered racist. Because their “privileges” are invisible, they can’t help but offend or oppress nonwhites. Being put in situations where “we’re in the minority” is less an opportunity for whites to be educated than for nonwhites to shake them down.

Needless to say, exposure to “diversity” doesn’t create more functional communities. As Robert Putnam found, it leads to a collapse in social trust and civic engagement.

Indeed, escaping from “diversity” is the predominant drive in American life, as we work horrifying jobs and endure grueling commutes to make enough money to live in the kinds of safe communities our ancestors could take for granted.

But what Kaine is saying is that no one will be allowed to escape [Elysium, by Gregory Hood, Counter Currents, August 21, 2013].

For the managerial elite, this is a feature, not a bug. As social trust collapses, the opportunities for government meddling increase. Thus, forced diversity and mass immigration function as the Viagra of the State, a powerful support for growing government.

As the American Experiment in self-government enters its terminal phase, the Ruling Class now has a positive motivation to replace and degrade its own population. And the less self-reliant and productive the population, the better it serves the purposes of the Democratic Party.

Thus, Kaine’s comments are only the tip of the iceberg. The Democrats and their pets in the Main Stream Media have been remarkably frank in cheerleading the replacement of Americans.

For example, Josh Zeitz at Politico recently celebrated what he claims were the unintended consequences of the 1965 Hart-Celler Immigration Act, “perhaps… the most revolutionary act of the 1960s… the political consequences… have been astonishing.”

Zeitz concern-trolls about how the GOP could have appealed to nonwhites based on ideology:

The great tragedy of 2016 may well be the full transformation of the GOP from a mainstream political party into a smaller, rump organization dedicated to white retrenchment. That outcome was never foreordained, but rather the unfortunate product of a half-century of resistance to pluralism and demographic transformation.

[The 1965 Law That Gave The Republican Party Its Race Problem, by Josh Zeitz,Politico, August 20, 2016]

Similarly, Orange County, once the birthplace of the conservative movement, is also becoming just another outpost of the Third World and one-party Democratic rule because of changing demographics:

Orange County Republicans, like the party nationwide, shot themselves in the foot in the face of two demographic trends: fewer white voters and more young ones. In the 1990 census, 64% of Orange County was white, and 36% were people of color. Twenty years later, 44% of the county was white, and 56% were people of color.

Latinos are the county’s largest and fastest-growing demographic group. Incredibly, O.C. Republicans began alienating them long before Trump started talking about walls and mass deportations.

[Orange County is turning blue: Decades of support for anti-Latino policies have handed the GOP stronghold to Democrats, by Fred Smoller, Los Angeles Times,August 29, 2016]

But there are two glaring flaws in this Zeitz-Smoller thesis:

  • Firstly, Republicans and Conservatism Inc. types have in fact fallen all over themselves trying to appeal to minorities based on ideology.

It’s not at all that there’s been a lack of “outreach”—it’s that Hispanics and most other nonwhites have no interest in limited government. Polls consistently show Hispanics support “big government” and more welfare programs. If the GOP truly wanted to win nonwhite support, it would have to abandon conservatism and libertarianism entirely.

  • Secondly, Democrats also supported common sense enforcement of our immigration laws not so long ago.

Senator Barbara Boxer, a California Democrat, would be called a right-winger today because of the actions she supported in the past. Harry Reid used to oppose birthright citizenship because it was common sense. The Barbara Jordan Commission’s recommendations would have solved much of this problem before it became the disaster it is today.

And both Clintons used to sound like Donald Trump i n acknowledging illegal immigration as a problem. President Bill Clinton in 1995 condemned “years of neglect” and demanded increased inspections to deny illegal immigrants jobs. As recently as 2006, Hillary Clinton was condemning the Mexican government for pushing illegal immigration north.

What changed? The Democrats now believe they must and can replace the existing population to secure their political future. We only have to look at their actions in the recent past to show they don’t really believe this is good for the country or for more American workers. It’s just good for them.

A recent video explaining the Alt Right features a clip of Vice President Joe Biden bragging about how great it is European-Americans will soon be a minority. “ That’s not a bad thing,” he says. “That’s a source of our strength.”

This is only true if “our” is “us politicians.”

ORDER IT NOW

In the wake of Hillary Clinton’s speech against the Alternative Right, the Main Stream Media is piling on Donald Trump for allegedly allowing “white identity politics” into the mainstream. But, since the Democrats’ abandonment of the working class, “identity politics” is now the only thing driving the Democratic coalition. And it’s a form of identity politics specifically built upon hatred of the historic American nation—the European-American core that created the American polity.

TheCampOfTheSaints[1] In Jean Raspail’s novel The Camp of the Saints, now indisputably the most prophetic book of the twentieth century, one character is a Consul disgusted at the actions of his fellow Westerners seeking to flood Europe with the Third World. Dismissing their garbage morality, showy virtue-signaling and maudlin rhetoric, the Consul cuts to the heart of the issue:

“You know,” the Consul went on, “there’s a very old word that describes the kind of men you are. It’s ‘traitor.’ That’s all, you’re nothing new. There have been all kinds. We’ve had bishop traitors, knight traitors, general traitors, statesman traitors, scholar traitors, and just plain traitors. It’s a species the West abounds in, and it seems to get richer and richer the smaller it grows. Funny, you would think it should be the other way around. But the mind decays, the spirit warps. And the traitors keep coming.”

And so they do.

Ignorance is no longer an excuse about what is being done to America.

The politicians implementing this policy of dispossession against American whites can only be viewed as an occupying government.

Those who go along with it, especially Republicans, should be considered collaborators.

And the response to accusations of “racism” is the, entirely accurate, charge of treason.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Dave B says:

    Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally, someone with the courage to tell the truth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @boogerbently
  2. mtn cur says:

    I confess, I am determinedly a middle aged WASP racist; I am deeply suspicious of the entire human race except for those under the age of twelve or over eighty.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  3. Mark Green says: • Website

    James Kirkpatrick continues to impress. Whatever your opinion and outlook, it cannot be denied that demographics DO MATTER.

    Every ‘minority group’ knows this.

    And this fact is just as true for European-derived Americans who speak English and whose ancestors hail from Western Europe.

    It’s our civilization to keep or to surrender.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  4. Jason Liu says:

    The left believes in diversity due to a stunted concept of compassion, and perhaps an insecurity felt by hierarchical power, which inevitably comes with dominant majorities.

    The arc of history tends towards less diversity over time, usually only rewinding when a society is forcefully invaded. If not, a peaceful society grows more homogeneous, either through assimilation or ideological bigotry (eg. xenophobia or expulsion).

    In that vein, all egalitarians are traitors, and should be treated as such. The labels they find for themselves are usually means to dress up their infantile ideology, hence absurd and perhaps intentional misnomers like “progressive”.

    For America, the path forward is a multitude of separatist factions culminating in ethnostates. Its current status as a singular, safe, isolated superpower has bred ideas detached from reality and contrary to civilization. What was once united, must now divide.

    • Replies: @Centrosphere
    , @Ace
  5. BenKenobi says:

    I’m not so sure. It seems that we are the outsiders. How can they commit treason against a nation that no longer exists?

    The flip side, of course, is that it is not possible to commit treason against a nation that wishes us dead.

  6. “It’s not at all that there’s been a lack of “outreach”—it’s that Hispanics and most other nonwhites have no interest in limited government. Polls consistently show Hispanics support “big government” and more welfare programs. If the GOP truly wanted to win nonwhite support, it would have to abandon conservatism and libertarianism entirely.”

    Nonsense. Since 1980, Republican presidents have presided over greater spending than Democrats. It’s a matter of what the government spends our money on. It spends a disastrously disproportionate amount of money on global warfare and other such interventions, along with the neoliberal policies that go hand in hand with it.

    Just as a start, we could cut our “defense” spending by half while making our military far more effective as a defensive construct rather than an offensive one. Given the amount of money that that alone would save, we could provide for the general welfare that these social groups prefer and also provide for safety nets and infrastructure services for the rest of us.

    One of the interesting things about our current moment is that there is a potential to turn back the clock on the parties’ treatment of warmaking, where the Democrats reveal themselves as the true war party and the Republicans FINALLY see the fiscal conservatism of so-called “isolationism”.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  7. @mtn cur

    “I am deeply suspicious of the entire human race except for those under the age of twelve or over eighty.”

    Google “Ten Year Old commits homicide” and see if you want to lower that bar … here’s just one example:

    http://fox6now.com/2014/10/14/i-killed-that-lady-just-10-years-old-pennsylvania-boy-charged-as-an-adult-accused-of-murder/

    • Replies: @mtn cur
  8. @Jason Liu

    I’m confused. Weren’t the “founding stock” guys the ones that forcefully invaded a former more homogeneous population?

  9. Professional victim cult people, often labeled euphemistically as diversity or underprivileged by the federal government, are not a minority.

    Victim cult people collectively are a super-majority of voters in the US and Israel.

    Women alone are a simple majority.

    Victim cult people are conditioned to trade their votes for illicit entitlements provided by the federal government.

    http://www.mindexchange.com/diversity.htm

    African American, Alternate Lifestyle, Asian, Disabled, Hispanic & Latino, Jewish, Native American, Women

    The enemy of all victim cult people is often labeled a Nazi or white supremacist, whose profile is the oppressor counterpart to victim cult people:

    White, Straight, Occidental, Healthy, Gringo, Gentile, Paleface, Men

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  10. conatus says:

    “Indeed, escaping from “diversity” is the predominant drive in American life, as we work horrifying jobs and endure grueling commutes to make enough money to live in the kinds of safe communities our ancestors could take for granted.”

    Great article, says it all succinctly.
    Regarding Diversity, besides Putnam I would add this article:
    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/europe/2008-03-02/us-and-them

    Jerry Muller wrote ‘Us and Them, the Enduring Power of Ethnic Nationalism’ where he says the relative peace in Europe since the end of WW2 has been maintained because after the War most ethnicities withdrew back into their cultural enclaves. With the obvious exception of Yugoslavia(whose motto was ‘Diversity is our strength’ ….just kidding) Europe’s culture mixing ended right after WW2.
    No multiculturalism…no conflict…equals peace.
    This was a hugely failed historical experiment in multicultural mixing with actual people, and for the past 40 years, in the Utopian interests of the false god of Globalism, we have chosen to ignore the results and set ourselves up for another bath in blood.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @El Dato
  11. Boris says:

    Another idiot whining about “forced diversity” and treason.

    it’s that Hispanics and most other nonwhites have no interest in limited government.

    “identity politics” is now the only thing driving the Democratic coalition

    Which is it, stupid?

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @Clearpoint
  12. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    I don’t want the desirable immigrants who have chance to succeed in the US….this is just CUCK race replacement immigration policy…replace us in our towns and schools with Chinese and Hindus…

    Bring back the Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act…

    Bring back the Hindu Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act….

    Bring back the Korean Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act…

    And if billionaire Donald Trump feels he can’t be happy in America without Asian Legal Immigrants….Donald Trump should pack his bags and move to Mubai!!!!

    • Agree: Ace
  13. In any normal country a weasel like Kaine would be frog-marched to the nearest wall and dispatched with a half a dozen well-aimed rounds. And, yes, his porky face causes any normal person to want to punch him.

    • Replies: @Boris
  14. iffen says:
    @conatus

    obvious exception of Yugoslavia

    Multiculturalism can work, you just need a competent Tito at the helm.

  15. The criminal pussy not only is a war criminal and a fifth column, but also a RACIST. She has killed millions of muslim women, children and men and millions more as refugees.

    She is in the service of Rothchild family, Soros, Haim Saban, and ziofascists, the neocons, all are from the criminal tribe. Kill this mass murderer and her supporters by casting your VOTE for Trump.

    The black tribe as usual has no brain of itself and voting as the black elite, pimp of Killary family, tells them whom they should vote for, and they obey their corrupt black elite, like sheeples, voting for a criminal racist .

    Sine Obama was selected to be at the black house by his handlers, people like Soros, Rothschild family, Saban – the same zionist families who are funding the criminal pussy – the Black tribe has become the most reactionary, warmongering group, supporting Obama’s crimes against humanity, wars against Muslims and head of states, African people because he is black. How petty one can get to act like one with NO brain. Killinton family who brought majority of the racist laws against black people, and his foreign minister, Mad Albright openly said the killing Muslims and their children is good for ‘America’, meaning Israel. And Hillary Clinton supported and acted fro wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. Now, black are more racist than any other group in the United States because the criminal tribe selected a black war criminal as ‘president’.

    Now the criminal tribe wants to use a pussy to bring all the dumb females – with or without pussy – on board to kill more Muslims by waging more wars for the interest of Rothschild, Rockefeller, Saban, Soros, all criminal Zionists, to erect ‘greater israel’ according to Oded Yinon, and ‘a clean break’ against the interest of American people.

    Kill them all by casting your vote for Trump and AGAINST the criminal pussy.

  16. Durruti says:

    Mr. Kirkpatrick and the Missing Pink Elephant – in the room:

    Once again, we are regaled with a salacious article that whines about the death of a Race. The implication is that by voting for Casino Trump, the Race will be saved, and all other races of foreigners will be deported (if they are lucky).

    *As an aside, Jewish Land Thieves will have to be admitted to the USA after they find their consciences and return Palestine to the Palestinians; but I digress (or do I?). So much for American Racial and Religious (Christian) purity. Another 5 million Jews! Yipes! We might confine them to Hollywood, and Kings Highway.

    The missing ingredient in Mr. Kirkpatrick’s rants is any discussion of Government, our American Government and our National Political Culture.

    The Restoration of our Democratic Republic – that was assassinated on November 22, 1963, is the ESSENTIAL for any rescue of our Nation, our Nation’s Sovereignty, and our National Honor.

    Mr. Kirkpatrick – Our last Constitutional President was John F. Kennedy.

    After JFK’s murder, his brother Robert Kennedy was assassinated, and Martin L. King, and Malcolm X, and John Lennon, and Fred Hampton, and many more, and all by the same MOSSAD/CIA Traitors.

    Our Yellow Brick Road is laid out for us. The path is clear, except for Mr. Kirkpatrick, who prefers to begin and end with race. It is one thing to have a favorite subject, but quite another to exclude entirely all discussion on Cause and Cure.

    For THE RESTORATION OF THE REPUBLIC

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal… governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles…”

    The above is a portion of the Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson.

    We, the Rabble in Arms, will Restore our Sacred Democratic Republic with its Sovereignty and Liberty.

    Durruti – for the Anarchist Collective.

  17. Speaking of America’s ancestral stock, The Atlantic’s website just published a piece about the project in the early 17th Century to encourage English women to migrate to Virginia and marry English planters:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/08/the-mail-order-brides-of-jamestown-virginia/498083/

    The article intended to serve as feminist propaganda about how this experience “empowered” these women at a time when the English women back home had to live under onerous patriarchy, but it struck me for its cognitive dissonance. These women became the ancestors of much of the South’s white population down to our time – the very people that our elite social engineers want to dispossess and push aside in the name of social justice, especially given these whites’ history of slavery and racism. Instead of celebrating these women as early feminist heroines, shouldn’t the article have criticized them as enablers for generations of black oppression?

  18. Rehmat says:

    On July 22, 2016, ‘The Jewish Daily Forward’ described Sen. Tim Kaine very eloquently: “Tim Kaine Might Just Be the Jewiest Vice President.” Even though the Dubya Bush family owes their political career to Jewish Lobby – Forward never called them JEWIEST.

    Having said that – White racism against American Indians, Blacks, Japanese, Hispanic, and currently Muslims and Arabs do exist in the United States.

    The Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan said at the Metropolitan A.M.E. Church, in Washington DC: “I don’t know what is the fight about the Confederate flag. We need to put the American flag down, because we have caught as much hell under that as under the Confederate flag. What flag do the police have? What flag flies over the non-justice Department?”

    It’s no secret that American police officers receive training from Israeli Jew officers. The US Justice Department along with the White House is run by Organized Jewry. Though Jews make 2% of the US population, four of nine judges at the Supreme Court are Jewish.

    On June 29, 2015, investigative journalist, Paul Joseph Watson, reported that some Americans are petitioning to ban the Stars and Stripes flag. Watch a video below.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/06/30/us-citizen-bring-down-american-flag/

    • Replies: @Alden
  19. Anonymous [AKA "Neal DeGrassyknoll McTython"] says:
    @Centrosphere

    If you are referring to that “homogeneous” population that repeatedly raided, raped, tortured each other’s homogeneous subgroups, I would speculate that the answer would be yes.

  20. Anonymous [AKA "Truth101"] says:
    @Dave B

    It takes courage? Who are we afraid of?

  21. @Dave B

    What about “Black privilege”, which allows them to behave in ways that would land whites in jail ?
    Black privilege insists we excuse or rationalize their behavior.

  22. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:
    @Centrosphere

    The Alt Right doesn’t ask Noam Chomsky for permission for The Historic Native Born White American Majority to exist as a racial majority within the borders of the US. Noam Chomsky can go F himself!!!!!

  23. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Kaine didn’t actually call for whites to be a minority.

    But Bill Clinton did, a long time ago:

    In his commencement address at Portland State University in Portland, Oregon June 13, 1998, Clinton said:

    Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City. Within five years, there will be no majority race in our largest state, California. In a little more than 50 years, there will be no majority race in the United States. No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this magnitude in so short a time … [These immigrants] are energizing our culture and broadening our vision of the world. They are renewing our most basic values and reminding us all of what it truly means to be American.

    The treason party are consistent, relentless and winning.

  24. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:
    @Durruti

    You are another infowars comspiracy theory “THE DEMIS is RACIST” Cuck Tard.

    JFK was the mortal enemy of The Historic Native Born White American Working Class. He was making the case for a massive demographic transformation of the US way before he was elected POTUS.

    The 1965 Immigration Reform Act was reprobate Teddy’s permanent monument of racial extermination to his reprobate brother JFK.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  25. Death is the penalty for high treason.

  26. @Mark Green

    If you exclude fellow white people whose background is southern and eastern European, you’ll have absolutely no chance in future elections, public demonstrations (and protecting ourselves and our families during such demonstrations and generally), peaceful secession, jury nullification, economic boycotts and collaboration — whatever it is you have in mind to restore our common language and culture and protect our children, our rights, and our interests.

    We must welcome eastern Europeans and southern Europeans into the USA and into our political and social efforts to survive here in North America together.

    (Please also consider that tens of millions of native-born Americans have both western European heritage AND eastern or southern European heritage. I have all three, as therefore do my children. This is true of most whites in many areas of the USA.)

    • Replies: @Alden
  27. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Centrosphere

    Weren’t the “founding stock” guys the ones that forcefully invaded a former more homogeneous population?

    Yes, and the operation is now being repeated, the Europeans in both America and Europe being the people targeted for elimination.

    Which raises the question, who’s side are you on?

    Are you a Hispanic supremacist, a Black Lives Matter advocate, an Islamic imperialist, or stupid European rooting for the extinction of your own people?

    Clarity on this point would help us assess your position.

    • Replies: @Centrosphere
  28. @Anonymous

    Took the words right out of my mouth, Neal.

    This romanticized image of the peace-loving, unified “Native Americans” is nonsense. They were typically cruel to each other and the Navajo or some other large tribe would have continued to expand, kill or rob whomever they met, and dominate the region themselves if our forebears had not shown up.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  29. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    thank yahweh we learned ’em good.

  30. Boris says:
    @Southern Sage

    These masturbation fantasies of yours are getting out of hand.

  31. Durruti says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    “You are another infowars comspiracy theory “THE DEMIS is RACIST” Cuck Tard.”

    “The 1965 Immigration Reform Act was reprobate Teddy’s permanent monument of racial extermination to his reprobate brother JFK.”

    You wear 1 dimensional – 1 issue blinders.

    Where are your comments on America’s Political Culture?

    Where is your discussion of the Republic?

    Where is your analysis of the Coup D’etat in Dallas?

    Why were the Kennedys assassinated?

    Were you a military veteran War Hero (maybe in WW II, like JFK)?

    Trump & Killery Clinton play the official game. The solution is not as easy as voting for one of the approved candidates. I will write-in, once again, Ron Paul for Pres, and Unz for VP. But that act, enjoyable as it will be, will not resolve the problem. Cynthia McKinney, who risked her life to help the Palestinians, has far more moral and physical courage than you display. All you have to cover your inadequacies, is Hate.

  32. mtn cur says:
    @The Alarmist

    All children should be watched, but most generally due to suicidal tendencies rather than homicide.

  33. republicans are for limited government? ha! name a republican president that hasn’t expanded government.
    diversity is going to bring down america? wipe it off the map? hasn’t & won’t.
    what will and is, are neoliberal(fascism) policies. permawar. imperial designs. greatest wealth disparity in the developed world. vanished and vanishing jobs. minimum slave wage. poor education and health care. citizen & national debt.

  34. @Anonymous

    Neal,

    If you´re really going to take the route of moral outrage about the warfare habits of ancient populations, I must warn you that this is a very short road:

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/08/archaeologists-uncover-neolithic-massacre-early-europe

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/slaughter-bridge-uncovering-colossal-bronze-age-battle

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/07/french-archaeologists-unearth-bones-6000-year-old-neolithic-massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Brice%27s_Day_massacre

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_B%C3%A9ziers

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portadown_massacre

    I hope this small list of ancient european massacres can be useful in enlightening you.

    Let me rephrase what I said before in benefit of your understanding: why in this good Earth do you think “westerners” have the higher moral ground in this discussion? For the whole of their existence, Westerners have been as violent and immoral as most other peoples living under the sky.

    I don´t condemn your display of self-centered righteousness for being self-centered. I condemn it for being dull.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
    , @gwynedd1
  35. @CanSpeccy

    CanSpeccy

    It fails me to see how knowing my ethnicity, ideology, religion or geographical location could change the rationality of my observations.

    See, I´m not even asking if you are a red-neck, white-trash appalachian. Or a big fat new yorker jew paedophile. Or some asian born boy who seeks acceptance among american whites. Or still worse, some black man from the Ol´South that thinks he has a white soul. No, I´m convinced that I must argue with you just on the merits of your arguments. Please do me the same favour.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  36. Alden says:
    @Rehmat

    I am not a conservative. I am a White Nationalist. I only care about getting rid of affirmative action and the restoration of the 14th amendment rights to Whites.

    It will never happen of course.

    But because of what America is doing to me and mine I despise the flag and every symbol of America.

    America hates Whites whether the Anerican is a founder like me or someone who just came over from Poland.

    F…. The Stars and Stripes. It’s the symbol of our oppressors who have genocide in mind for us.

    • Replies: @Boris
    , @Rehmat
  37. Alden says:
    @RadicalCenter

    I’ve been searching for a White Nationalist, not conservative movement since 1980. There isn’t one and I doubt there will be.

    What there is consists of confederate revanchism, Anglo Saxon superiority myths, excessive patriotism, anti Catholicism and a 1900 version of Anerican history emphasizing the founders as the greatest and most moral and virtuous people who ever lived.

    In the mind of White Nationalists, if your ethnic origins are not from Britian, Germany or Scandinavia you are not White. Because Belgians have French names even they are not White.
    There is also a lot of ridiculous
    “constitutionalism” by people who never heard of Marbury vs Madison.

    I’m sorry to say it’s just hopeless.

  38. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Centrosphere

    It fails me to see how knowing my ethnicity, ideology, religion or geographical location could change the rationality of my observations.

    It fails you does it?

    Or is that to answer my question would reveal either a self-serving interest in the eclipse of the European people, or if you are yourself European, some kind of or propaganda-induced or psychotic racial self-hatred. In either case your refusal to answer my question is both understandable and revealing.

    • Replies: @Centrosphere
  39. woodNfish says:
    @Centrosphere

    No, there were no “homogenous populations” in this land before the colonists arrived. The american indians were constantly at war with each other. Because they were essentially stone age people, the wars helped keep their populations in check because they were incapable of supporting large ones. In Winter some tribes would send their oldest members out into the cold to die so the rest of the tribe would have enough to eat until Spring returned. This was not the fantasy paradise sold to children in public education indoctrination classes.

    • Replies: @Centrosphere
  40. @CanSpeccy

    Let´s do the following then.

    First, please tell me what you think of my concrete argument as initially exposed.

    Then I promise to give you some basic information about myself.

    All of this in the earnest spirit of not allowing any pre-conceptions to obnubilate your reasoning.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @Ace
  41. @woodNfish

    Please see my response to Neal DeGrassyknoll McTython.

  42. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Battle Mountian"] says:

    I can report one day after Trump’s immigration speech that White Males have started to openly talk about nonwhite immigration in a bold brazen way around nonwhites.

    Terrible mistake:Jared Taylor using his new found Alt Right celebrity status to announce boldly on various MSM outlets that Asians are smarter than Whites….this at a time when Asian “Americans” are actively participating in the extermination of thousands of years acquired and collective Engineering,Scientific, and Medical Expertise.

    This is the reason why I have violent hatred of IQ Test score psychometric jibber jabber. What the Asians “Americans” are doing is genocide against The Historic Native Born White American Majority. Jared Taylor blathering on about Asians being intellectually superior to Native Born White Americans shuts off a discussion about the role of Asian “Americans” in deskilling the Native Born White American Working Class.

    Jared Taylor is the Alt Right version of a Cuck….Jared is the Cuck of the Alt Right. We have our Cucks also…

  43. Boris says:
    @Alden

    America hates Whites whether the Anerican is a founder like me

    You didn’t found anything, and you literally can’t spell “American.”

    I guess you don’t stand during the national anthem either?

    • Replies: @Alden
  44. woodNfish says:
    @Centrosphere

    Oh please you bleeding heart. No one denies the bloody history of Europeans and the West in general. That has nothing to do with the lies taught to every school child about the blood thirsty savages who inhabited the new world before colonization.

    • Replies: @Centrosphere
  45. TOM GILES says: • Website

    Why doesn’t anyone ever mention the connection between Tim Kaine and the FBI HEAD James Comey, who gave Hillary a free pass? A gross case of conflict of interest. It can be found on a simple WIKIPEDIA SEARCH but I have found this information NOWHERE, obviously not on mainstream, but not even on the net, I had to find this myself. If you look up Kaine’s bio and scroll down to MAYOR OF RICHMOND 2003, you will see Kaine worked on a gun grab project WITH COMEY known as PROJECT EXILE! You can find this yourself, just do a Wikipedia search on Tim Kaine and scroll down his bio to Mayor of Richmond 2003.

    • Replies: @Boomstick
  46. gwynedd1 says:

    Perhaps it may have worked out better if we hadn’t brain washed minorities into hating the majority? Gee I don’t know why I don’t want to move to a place where I can be singled out to be an objected of hatred. It would even be more fun to get some oppressed Muslims over here since my ancestors were fleeing the Ottomans. They may not have been fully compensated for the loss of their slaves and I feel bad about it.

  47. gwynedd1 says:
    @Centrosphere

    Well perhaps that’s the point. We are the product of many years of futile struggle and have evolved. I think its mostly true which is why our leaders are forced to lie and manipulate to get us to go to war.

  48. @woodNfish

    woodNfish

    Perharps you could use some amount of introspection to verify by yourself that in no occasion in this thread I ever said that amerindian America was a paradise of milk and honey. What I´m saying is that trying to justify the Conquest in moral terms is ludicrous since the history of Europe isn´t exactly a fairy tale.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
    , @El Dato
  49. El Dato says:
    @conatus

    Tito kept the shit together with an iron fist. That guy didn’t faff around (check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Yugoslav_smallpox_outbreak )

    And if Germany had not decided that Croatia was were the “good guys” live (hey, they are partly muslims, they must be good, right?) but Serbia (the old historical antangonist from before WWI) was were the “bad guys” (also commies) live, and the US had stayed the fuck out, all of this could have been avoided.

    Many NATO generals and liberventionist politicians should be hanging from rafters for their actions in this particular show.

  50. woodNfish says:
    @Centrosphere

    The history of Europe in respect to warfare, bloodshed and conquest is no different than the history of all of humanity. Trying to justify anything in terms of modern morality, or even twisted leftist morality (if such morality even exists and that is debatable), is nonsense. But that is what hand-wringing, limp-wristed, bleeding heart, leftist fags do.

    • Replies: @Centrosphere
  51. El Dato says:
    @Durruti

    After JFK’s murder, his brother Robert Kennedy was assassinated, and Martin L. King, and Malcolm X, and John Lennon, and Fred Hampton, and many more, and all by the same MOSSAD/CIA Traitors.

    I heard it was Smoking Man?

    You also forgot the suspicious near-hit on Reagan (now THAT looked constructed, but I still don’t know why).

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  52. El Dato says:
    @Centrosphere

    the history of Europe isn´t exactly a fairy tale.

    Roger that, it’s been a permanent bloodbath since before history was recorded (with the occasional incursion of Huns and Rus and Mongols and Arabs and Turks and whatever), and once mechanized warfare came to the table, the fun REALLY started, Don’t forget occasional wipeouts by pestilence and inclement bouts of weather.

    Standing knee-deep in bones right now.

    • Replies: @Ace
  53. Rehmat says:
    @Alden

    Can you enlighten us darling – how many Whites are among 475 Congressmen and 100 Senators?

    Stop whining like an ADL bigot and face the music.

    On September 18, 2014, American Jewish writer and author, MJ Rosenberg advised Zionist Jews to stop blaming Muslims, Christians and even some Jews for hating them for no reason. “It’s Israeli actions, you stupid,” he said.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/06/17/israel-the-traitors-among-us/

    • Replies: @Alden
  54. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Centrosphere

    First, please tell me what you think of my concrete argument as initially exposed.

    Exposed? Wadderyermean. You didn’t advance, espouse or otherwise “expose” an argument. The entire text of your comment to which I referred was

    I’m confused. Weren’t the “founding stock” guys the ones that forcefully invaded a former more homogeneous population?

    That’s not an argument its a question. And I answered it with one word “Yes.” Then I asked you, in the following words, which side you’re on:

    and the operation is now being repeated, the Europeans in both America and Europe being the people targeted for elimination.

    Which raises the question, who’s side are you on?

    Are you a Hispanic supremacist, a Black Lives Matter advocate, an Islamic imperialist, or stupid European rooting for the extinction of your own people?

    Clarity on this point would help us assess your position.

    That was a few comments back and you’re still ducking and weaving.

    • Replies: @Centrosphere
  55. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @El Dato

    You also forgot the suspicious near-hit on Reagan (now THAT looked constructed, but I still don’t know why).

    Cui bono? (Or to get the tense right: qui necessario profuerunt.) The answer to that seems pretty clear.

  56. Alden says:
    @Boris

    No I would not stand during the national anthem. But I would never go to a cathedral of black athlete worship, a stadium where they play the National Anthem. Why do 100 million White men spend their weekends worshipping black k athletes and standing for the national anthem of a country that wants them dead as soon as possible?

    Every time I see an American flag I want to burn it.
    It is the flag of the enemy of Whites.

  57. Alden says:
    @Rehmat

    Go back to Occidental Observer. Oh, I forgot, even that collection of lunatics banned you.

  58. @Joe Franklin

    “…White, Straight, Occidental, Healthy, Gringo, Gentile, Paleface, Men.”

    Have the gumption to use the term “Normal” – Straight is a fag term.

    • Replies: @Seoulsurvivor
  59. Ace says:
    @Jason Liu

    ** bred ideas detached from reality and contrary to civilization **

    Quite so. Education, good or bad, and the neverending efforts of the alternative media are examples of trying to feed skulls full of mush with sense from outside.

    However there has been a terrific separation of the population from harsh realities that were the stuff of daily life for our ancestors. Idiot young people never had the economic freedom they had (until recently). The state has neutered parental authority. Fiscal excess, monetary fiddling, and unusual post-wwii economic supremacy have made life seem far simpler than it is.

    Projecting the friendly, cooperative and honest nature of Americans onto foreigners is perhaps the most insane delusion if all. Thus the complacency of many toward borders and their mad belief that importing our enemies will add value to the nation.

  60. Ace says:
    @Boris

    Note the word “no” in the second sentence of your comment.

  61. Ace says:
    @El Dato

    And Europe was in some way unique?

  62. Boomstick says:
    @TOM GILES

    Project Exile wasn’t exactly a gun grab project. It was and is strongly supported by the NRA.

    • Replies: @Tom Giles
  63. @woodNfish

    Well,

    Is it ok then when hand-wringing, limp-wristed, bleeding heart, alt rightists fags do the same thing?

    Because that was exactly my issue with Jason Liu.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
  64. @Boris

    I fail to see the contradiction. If you’re on the receiving end of government largess, the bigger the reach of government into the taxpayer’s pockets, the better. And if you’re on the paying end, the more limited the reach of government into your pocket, the better.

    Regarding identity politics being the driving force of the democratic party platform, let’s get real. From immigration to racism to sexism to homophobia to LGBT to abortion to same sex marriage to glass ceilings to equal pay for unequal work to quotas to microaggressions to black lives matter to the knockout game to law enforcement bias, you will find the democratic party unerringly on the side of the so called aggrieved constituency they are pandering to, and against the law and order of the society they are elected to represent.

    Clearly these are tactics designed to divide and conquer the people, in the name of the people of course. “Traitor” is an accurate description of the people behind these policies whether you like it or not.

    • Replies: @Boris
  65. woodNfish says:
    @Centrosphere

    It is okay when the facts are on your side, but my entire response to you was in reply to your agreement with CanSpeccy that American Indians were “a former more homogeneous population”, which is not true.

    • Replies: @Centrosphere
  66. Boris says:
    @Clearpoint

    I fail to see the contradiction. If you’re on the receiving end of government largess, the bigger the reach of government into the taxpayer’s pockets, the better.

    Preference for larger government is ideological and includes far more than welfare programs. In general, poor whites are for limited government and rich nonwhites are against limited government. In any case, the desire for strong welfare programs is something that unites the liberal wing.

    Regarding identity politics being the driving force of the democratic party platform, let’s get real. From immigration to racism to sexism to homophobia to LGBT to abortion to same sex marriage to glass ceilings to equal pay for unequal work to quotas to microaggressions to black lives matter

    Certainly identity politics is important, but identity politics on the left isn’t by choice but by necessity. This is because the conservatives used their love for limited government to oppress all of the identities you listed. The fact that most government oppression has ended does not mean that people don’t want these groups oppressed (see this website) or that the power of the government isn’t being used against them in “legal” ways (see racial “stop and frisk” policies). White supremacy created the mess and it’s a bit amusing to see people who follow it whining about “identity politics.”

    Your tactics of “divide and conquer” are being used against you. Why should I care?

  67. @woodNfish

    On the contrary. Due to the “out of Africa” model, however temperated by recent discoveries concerning admixture with some ancient populations like neanderthals (in Europe) and Denisovans (in Asia), the reality is that the African population shows the greater genetic diversity in the planet, but ameridians, being the last group of human colonizers, are the population with less genetic diversity.

    “The original human migration out of Africa occurred approx. 60,000 years ago, towards the Middle East and thereafter independently to Europe and Asia [12]. The Americas were populated by humans of East Asian ancestry that crossed the Bering Strait, about 15 thousand years ago. These first Americans suffered a genetic bottleneck [13]–[15], and the reduced genetic diversity in Amerindians is evidenced in the absolute dominance of the O blood group among Amerindians (Fig. 1), their low heterozygosity and the reduced number of mitochondrial DNA haplogroups [16], [17]”

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2551748/

  68. Jared Taylor was explicit about essential stuff long ago:
    http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/an-open-letter-to-cuckservatives/

    An Open Letter to Cuckservatives
    ………………………..
    You tell yourself that the things you love about America–and I love them, too–are rooted in certain principles. That is your greatest mistake. They are rooted in certain people. That is why Germans, Swedes, Irishmen, and Hungarians could come and contribute to the America you love. Do you really believe that a future Afro-Hispanic-Caribbean-Asiatic America will be anything like the America your ancestors built?

    Let’s consider your principles. Do you dream of a traditional, religious, free-market society with small government, low taxes, and no gun control, where same-sex marriage is illegal, and abortion, divorce, prostitution, and illegitimacy are scorned? There are such places: the tribal areas of Pakistan and Somalia.

    And what about countries that violate your principles–with high taxes, huge government, clogged markets, a weak church, strict gun control, and sexual license of all kinds? There’s Scandinavia. And yet if you had to leave the United States you’d much rather live in Denmark than in Waziristan.

    Do you see the pattern? Even when they violate your principles, white people build good societies. Even when they abide by your principles, non-whites usually don’t.

  69. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Centrosphere

    So you think that a question can´t be an argument? Go read your Bible, you fool.

    Still squirming!

    And I don’t consider abuse an argument either.

  70. Ed says:
    @Centrosphere

    You sound confused. What homogeneous population? Are you referring to the Native Americans? A people spread out across the land and comprising hundreds of tribes with their own unique cultures & languages. The Navajo didn’t even know the Iroquois existed let alone have anything in common with them.

    Stop being silly.

  71. Anonymous [AKA "American200"] says:

    I have been following the meme of the ‘evil white man is responsible for all the evil in the world for about 2 1/2 years now.
    It did not surface out of no where nor is it strictly a product of black groups–it is a much larger ‘movement’ than that.
    I first noticed the evil white man meme in relation to Israel where the ‘liberal’ Zionist gatekeepers started blaming Israeli crimes on ‘white’ supremacy/colonialism —I saw it as a ‘deflection’ from the ‘Jewish factor’ in Zionism and Israel. You could literally see the meme spreading among the Israel and anti Zionist activist.
    It morphed into a deafening roar among the liberal left publications. You couldn’t go a day without seeing a Atlantic or The Nation article about the evil of the American founders.
    It got on steroids with blacks demanding all kinds of American symbols be torn down —certain dead American founders being defiled as racist, demand for names of anything named after them to be changed, portraits of important founders to be taken down at colleges, the removal of Jackson from the 20$ bill to be replaced by the slave rescuer who few even heard of, then the play “Hamilton’..touting Hamiltion as the non racist and Jefferson as the evil white slaver with an all black cast.

    A French writer and statesman whose name I forget and cant quote exactly said a century ago to the effect that —the way to destroy or take over a nation is to convince the people that they are so bad that they have no right to defend themselves or their culture.’
    THAT is exactly what is going on.

    So who is behind this? The blacks are mostly useful idiots imo, for the real groups /individuals behind it. And no doubt there is a lot of ‘piggybacking’ in the ‘get the white man’ and ‘evil America’ movement. The Dems are using it for political gain, the Jews are using it for control of the evil ‘gentile’ European stock in the US since they hate the gentile even more than they hate the Arabs. Then you have assorted brainless ideologues who want to posture as ‘moral’ by joining in the bashing of the US as the most evil entity in the universe.

    So the question is fight back and how to do that? Or let them have the US and destroy it and in doing that destroy themselves in the victimhood and ‘tyranny of the minorities’ nation and chaos they will create.

  72. Tom Giles says: • Website
    @Boomstick

    That makes it even more interesting , considering Kaine and Hillary are AGAINST THE NRA.

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