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Ben Shapiro got DESTROYED, as one of his own fanboy videos might put it—and as he has admitted [Conservative pundit Ben Shapiro admits he was ‘destroyed’ after cutting short TV debate, by Rob Picheta, CNN, May 13, 2019]. Shapiro surprisingly lost his cool and cut short a BBC interview with UK media Big Foot Andrew Neil.

Back in the U.S., the Left and the Dissident Right were equally delighted (see here and here). But there’s more to say about how this exposes Conservatism Inc.’s inherent flaws—and Shapiro’s.

Shapiro, who appeared completely unprepared, committed several major blunders:

  • He bragged that “I’m popular, and no one has ever heard of you.” Neil, one of Britain’s most celebrated journalists, retorted (not particularly to his credit) that he had not heard of Shapiro either.
  • Shapiro pressed Neil to admit that the journalist was “on the left.” But Neil is a longtime conservative—Shapiro’s own website, The Daily Wire, had once praised him. [WATCH: British Journalist DESTROYS Argument That U.S. Sanctions, Not Socialism, Hurt Venezuela,February 7, 2019] Ironically, Neil’s “conservatism” has much in common with Shapiro’s: both were advocates of the Iraq War and are dogmatic immigration enthusiasts.
  • Neil successfully baited Shapiro by calling a recent anti-abortion bill in Georgia a return to the Dark Ages. Shapiro was thus pinned down on an allegedly hardline state law he didn’t seem to know anything about. However, he could have simply said that he was pro-life but couldn’t speak to the current status of state legislation, thus dodging the trap. Probably because of ego, he didn’t do this.
  • Neil casually mentioned that Shapiro is Jewish before confronting him with some rabidly pro-Israel tweets. Of course, this would never happen in the U.S., which has a vastly larger proportion of Jews than the U.K., and correspondingly stronger inhibitions. But Shapiro should not have been so rattled by this reference to something which is, after all, true—and arguably motivates his politics, from keeping the Middle East safe for Israel to sabotaging any expression of emerging white self-consciousness in America.

Shapiro was expecting to promote his new book The Right Side Of History: How Reason and Moral Purpose Made The West Great, the latest in the long series of Beltway Right slop defining the West and/or conservatism as post-Enlightenment prattle about “individualism” or “liberty” or “Judeo-Christianity” or anything other than a people (white, by the way) with a real culture and civilization.

In his book, Shapiro bemoans “division” and the supposed inability of people today to debate rationally (!!). He also proclaims his criticism of Trump—Shapiro was a Never-Trumper and ostentatiously split with Breitbart on the issue. Neil in the interview seemed unimpressed by this proof of Shapiro’s independence, perhaps because he is genuinely unaware of U.S. political nuance.

In other words, Shapiro expected to appear in his traditional American role as gatekeeper, eager to condemn populist nationalism and to portray himself as an “intellectual conservative.”

But Shapiro’s popularity, such as it is, depends on titillating a conservative audience. Like every would-be celeb in Conservatism Inc., he must simultaneously push and enforce boundaries. This inevitably leads to problems.

Thus, Neil hit Shapiro on a specific tweet he made in 2010—but has not been deleted—when he contrasted “Israelis” who like to “build” and “Arabs” who like to “bomb crap and live in open sewage.”

Shapiro protested, accurately, that this was a tweet from 2010. He also protested, also accurately, that he had both apologized for and explained this tweet in an article on his website. [So, Here’s A Giant List Of All The Dumb Stuff I’ve Ever Done (Don’t Worry, I’ll Keep Updating It, Daily Wire, July 20, 2018]

In fairness to Shapiro, Neil was engaging in “Point and Sputter” journalism (essentially all journalism these days) in which a statement, often quite old, is taken out of context and sprung on a guest during an interview ostensibly about something else, followed by a display of faux outrage.

Yet Neil had a substantive reason for using this tactic and noting other statements Shapiro made in the past. The whole point of Shapiro’s book is to defend civil debate, but Shapiro’s schtick itself consists of baiting people.

Who knows? The dogmatic assertion that, all scientific evidence to contrary, “race doesn’t exist” may be regarded as equally offensive by future generations.

Saying “race is real,” “homosexuality is a mental illness,” or “transgenderism is a mental disorder” can all be provocative or offensive statements at different times and places. But baiting transgenders is edgy on campus while safe (for now) within the general conservative movement.

In contrast, saying “race is real” is a career-ender for conservatives—very largely thanks to people like Shapiro. In an interview with the Los Angeles Loyolan, Shapiro makes sure to virtue signal against “white supremacy,” the “alt-right” and the “evil” (Shapiro literally uses the term) Richard Spencer.[An interview with Ben Shapiro: social justice, free speech and transgender pronouns, by Phillip Nieto, April 8, 2019]

Shapiro claims to be part of the “Intellectual Dark Web” (IDW), which has emerged as sort of faux Dissident Right. And in a 2016 interview with one of its supposed members, Dave Rubin, Shapiro declared,

Of course, there are legitimate racists and we should target them and we should find them and we should ruin their careers because racism is unacceptable.

Shapiro later claimed that he meant “racist BEHAVIOR at work, not thought, merits firing”. [Breaking: Apparently, I’m Now A Social Justice Warrior!, April 11, 2019]

But what does that mean specifically? Though I’m trying to be fair to Shapiro, he would never be fair to, say, us.

In a piece implicitly approving of Darren Beattie’s firing, he casually called VDARE.com a “white supremacist site,” presenting absolutely no evidence why that label is deserved. [Conservatives oust bigotry, and the Left only slams them for it, National Review, August 28, 2018] In it, he termed the position that the United States should stay majority white as “white-nationalist nonsense.” (If this is true, then America really was founded as a white nationalist country.) He also explicitly endorsed the firing of John Derbyshire, and even said the Conservative Movement has not gone far enough in self-policing and is “making common cause with those they should have thrown out of the tent long ago.”

Still, again in fairness, Ben Shapiro has bravely opposed forced integration of private institutions, making the same libertarian argument made by Barry Goldwater and Rand Paul (once). [Fake Libertarians Run From Religious Freedom Restoration Act, by Ben Shapiro, Breitbart, April 2, 2015] Shapiro also rhetorically opposes selective censorship on social media, though he is not advocating direct government action (likely for the same reasons). [Facebook, YouTube, and Apple Ban Alex Jones. Here’s Why They’re Dead Wrong. By Ben Shapiro, Daily Wire, August 6, 2018] But, given that the Civil Rights Act isn’t going anywhere anytime soon (and that Shapiro isn’t exactly campaigning for its repeal), this essentially means nothing.

And this is where Andrew Neil really missed an important point. He accused Ben Shapiro of being part of the new media that capitalizes on extreme rhetoric. He also suggested that President Trump has essentially captured the conservative intellectual movement, something that Shapiro pushed back against.

However, both overlooked the crucial factor. Shapiro has a platform precisely because he is allowed to have a platform. He complains about campus protests and online abuse he suffered during the 2016 campaign, but I can confidently predict that Ben Shapiro will never lose his Stripe account, his PayPal account, his checking account. He will never lose his Twitter—while his critics (some undoubtedly abusive but definitely not all) mostly have.

He is “New Media” only insofar as he is promoted by Legacy Media, and because any competition to his right, including the grassroots activists who drove the 2015-2016 Trump insurgency, is being persecuted and purged by Big Tech. That’s the only reason why people need to be in “the tent” at all—to be allowed to earn a living.

More broadly, it’s not Trump who has captured the Establishment Conservative Movement, it’s the Conservative Movement that (as of right now) has captured Trump.

Neil was right when he identified the lack of intellectual energy coming from the Beltway Right. Again, partially this is because most of the incisive critics have been deplatformed, cut off from financial resources, or simply intimidated via direct threats. Yet it’s also because the Beltway Conservative Movement is fundamentally a product of corporate donors. Not surprisingly, they aren’t coming up with anything except the usual calls for tax cuts and deregulation.

The ultimate proof of this: President Trump’s first year. He turned to the Beltway Right for an Obamacare replacement—and there was no plan, despite years of promises to the base. Yet, given how President Trump has essentially turned over judicial nominations to the Federalist Society, with the result that he is apparently succeeding in transforming the judiciary, if there had been an Obamacare replacement plan, it likely would have passed.

But Ben Shapiro has no stake in political success, no skin in the game. His job is to remain in the political sweet spot of triggering the hysterical campus left, while gatekeeping for the Beltway Right. This allows him Main Stream Media access, fundraising, and bookselling opportunities, while repeating the same tired slogans like it’s still the Reagan years.

He and those like him love to mock Leftists for staying in their safe spaces. But as we’ve now seen, once Shapiro is out of his Conservatism Inc. safe space, he really has nothing to say.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

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  1. Shapiro is indeed a gatekeeper — for Israel lobby war criminals.

  2. Anon[181] • Disclaimer says:

    Shapiro is as right-wing as one of Skinner’s pigeons would be. Being paid significantly and on time makes him say the same thing. Missing a payment makes him change tune. In an open debate, where he has to answer novel questions, Shapiro is as eloquent as that pigeon.

    • Replies: @joeshittheragman
  3. Barnard says:

    He complains about campus protests and online abuse he suffered during the 2016 campaign, but I can confidently predict that Ben Shapiro will never lose his Stripe account, his PayPal account, his checking account. He will never lose his Twitter—while his critics (some undoubtedly abusive but definitely not all) mostly have.

    I wouldn’t count on this. A majority of progressives would be in favor on deplatforming Shapiro. They are taking a gradual approach and using Ben and other Conservatism, Inc. useful idiots to help get the process started on others to their right. If these progressives continue to have success and gain power, there is no natural end point to the deplatforming and unpersoning. They will get to Ben and his ilk if they get a chance.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @Sean McBride
    , @Cranberries
  4. It would be interesting to hear Ben Shapiro address this question: which of the following expressions of ethnic activism are legitimate or illegitimate, and why? What are your standards and criteria? Are they logically consistent? If not, why not?

    -Arab activism
    -black activism
    -Chinese activism
    -European activism
    -Indian activism
    -Iranian activism
    -Hispanic activism
    -Jewish activism
    -Palestinian activism
    -people of color activism
    -white activism

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @hamtok
  5. @Barnard

    Make no mistake: “progressives” are engaged in a coordinated long-term strategy, achieved incrementally, to use the Internet to crush and silence all opinion that deviates from their strict ideological agenda. Call it Stalinism or Maoism. Shapiro himself in their crosshairs over the long term.

  6. YN1F says:

    That’s a very intelligent comment, Sean. And a trap I’m certain he’d find a way to avoid if he has any sense. But we can guess the hypocritical answers he’d likely give if he took the bait…

    I like the way that you re-named some of the ethnic groups, too, making them either more palatable or less so based upon mere semantics: Arab/Palestinian, European/White, Black/poc, etc. (the non-White-inclusiveness/White-exclusionary nature of the term ‘poc’ is a stroke of genius!)

    No one with a brain could pick and choose from your list. It’s all …or none.
    Great comment.

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  7. The latest on the Silicon Valley censorship front:

    # Candace Owens is Suspended From Facebook
    https://hillreporter.com/candace-owens-is-suspended-from-facebook-36133

    What is fascinating is the sheer tone-deaf arrogance of this ever-escalating campaign to impose political censorship on the Internet. Despite all the conspicuous pushback and negative publicity, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and other leading social media platforms are continuing to expand their censorship efforts. They are on a holy mission.

    Google [candace owens suspended facebook] for other reports on this incident.

    Is there a more important political issue currently in play than efforts by the radical left to transform the Internet into the ultimate instrument for totalitarian surveillance, censorship and thought control?

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
    , @Polemos
  8. Or
    What happens when calling the opposition an anti-Semite doesn’t Shut It Down?

    • Replies: @Meimou
  9. @YN1F

    Reframing the question to Ben Shapiro:

    1. Do you support ethnic activism and nationalism in general?
    2. Do you oppose ethnic activism and nationalism in general?
    3. Do you support some expressions of ethnic activism and nationalism, and oppose others? If so, on what grounds?

    If your answer is, ethnic activism and nationalism are good for my group, but bad for other groups, you have a problem.

    Ben Shapiro prides himself on his intellectual rigor and consistency, so surely he can explain his views on this issue in a persuasive way.

    This is hardly a trick question, by the way: the queries go to the core of his ideological beliefs — to their integrity and cohesion. This is a substantive and pressing question. Curious minds want to know.

    • Replies: @YN1F
  10. YN1F says:
    @Sean McBride

    Very good!

    But he has been asked these questions before, maybe not all at once or in exactly the same way… with the result being “You’re an anti-Semite!” or “I reject White supremacy/racism.”

    People like Shapiro (and they’re practically everywhere) just cannot emerge from their flawed ideological cul-de-sacs. So they instead try to take the legs out from beneath their critics with name-calling. They know perfectly well that they are hypocrites. And they know that we know it.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  11. @YN1F

    One wonders if Ben Shapiro has thought about this scenario: if “white” culture collapses — by which we mainly mean Western culture, culture grounded in European civilization and values — Jewish culture and Zionism will fall with it. Israel will be stripped of most of its political, economic and military shields on the world stage.

    But Shapiro doesn’t strike one as being much of a strategic thinker.

    • Replies: @kikz
    , @Non Sum Qualis Eram
  12. @Sean McBride

    Update: Facebook reversed its decision on Candace Owens, and claimed it made a mistake:

    # Facebook Blames ‘Mistake’ After Censoring Candace Owens
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/05/17/facebook-blames-mistake-after-censoring-candace-owens/

    This is now part of a familiar pattern: social media platforms engage in outrageous acts of censorship, receive furious pushback, and then announce that they’ve made a “mistake.”

    What’s going on here? It looks like they are incrementally experimenting and probing, seeing how far they can go and what they can get away with in shutting down their political opponents, and then back off when the volume of complaints is too loud. No doubt they will continue relentlessly to push the limits of what is considered acceptable censorship.

  13. The ultimate proof of this: President Trump’s first year. He turned to the Beltway Right for an Obamacare replacement—and there was no plan, despite years of promises to the base.

    That’s because ‘Obamacare’ was a Republican plan. Obama just stole Romneycare from Romney, who in turn had gotten it off the Heritage Foundation, which had first pushed the plan back in the 90s as an alternative to Hillarycare (which in its own way was just as bad).

    All in all, stealing the other side’s plan was a pretty sly move by Obama … at least for a while. Now that his base is finally waking up to the fact that they were deceived, they’re demanding Medicare-for-all, which is what they should have been demanding from Obama ten years ago when they had the chance.

    • Replies: @indocon
    , @Ace
  14. Vianney says:

    I’ve never heard this Shapiro character before.
    What a terrible voice and presence and attitude.
    Fingernails on chalkboard.
    Would he have that job if he were not Jewish?
    Is he in the public eye to provoke anti-kike sentiment?

    He’s repugnant.

    • Agree: byrresheim
    • Replies: @hamtok
  15. Anon[144] • Disclaimer says:

    Shapiro is a repackaged Neocon for millenials.

    He’s exactly the same, running his game from the same “the only good nationalism is Jewish nationalism, goy” seventy year old playbook. He is unoriginal in the extreme.

    Shapiro’s audience is merely a younger version of the spineless White boomers who were too scared to stand up for their identity and also scared of the encroaching destruction that lack of backbone brings when Jews inhabit your nation.

    So they gladly embraced a Jewish nationalist surrogate that shows off shiny Jewish ethnonationalism while scolding the goyim that they are not allowed to have anything like it for themselves. They all secretly believe that there is some salvation in supporting that Jewish nationalism while cucking their own group, because its the only option left to them that doesn’t include actually standing up for themselves, but in the end all that exists is their genocide at Jewish hands. Per the Jewish books. In a sane world, Shapiro wouldn’t exist in any Western society. Like trannies reading books in kindergartens, Shapiro is a pure product of clown world.

    Shapiro gives lip service to what were always common sense morals (claiming Jewish ownership the entire time, leaving out that Jewish influence is what diminished them in Western societies) and worldviews while serving primarily as a door stop that prevents the Right from actually closing the door on the communists and their pawns who will continue to trample those normative views into dust.

    Shapiro and his Neocon ilk are the most vile public players in this late-game political hellscape. No fate is too cruel nor undeserved.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    , @hamtok
  16. utu says:

    His job is to remain in the political sweet spot of triggering the hysterical campus left, while gatekeeping for the Beltway Right.

    Exactly. Not much different than Breitbart. Another Zio operation.

    Ben Shapiro, 12, Plays “Schindler’s List”

    “His goal is to become the first Orthodox Rabbi to seat on the Supreme Court.”

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Father O'Hara
  17. Meimou says:
    @eyesfrontmen

    Florida’s “anti semitism” laws are going nationwide. That’s what will happen.

  18. eah says:

    • Replies: @CBTerry
  19. Gefreiter says:

    We have to recognize what Shapiro has done. He has helped to purge the “right” of many important and relatively tame leadership figures, like Derb and Beattie, or even Spencer, and replaced them with his own brand of millenial cuck conservatism. He is a kike cuckoo bird.

    This is what the jewish fifth column has always done, this is why so many important figures were assassinated by “anarchist” jews in the 19th and early 20th centuries. They kill the opposition leadership and then replace it with one of their own, a crypto-jew, a secret Freemason, or someone they have completely under their control due to blackmail. Like creepy Joe Biden and his creepier son.

    On a related note, the MSM appears to be silent about Isaac Kappy.

    Kappy, who exposed Spielberg, Hanks, Green and others as being pedophiles, supposedly committed suicide in Arizona on May 13. He “jumped” from a 20ft overpass on Route 66 onto an oncoming Ford pickup truck. On his YT clips he had always stated that he would never kill himself and he was mentally sound.

    Kappy had said many times that the means by which the (((deep state))) controls the politicians is through blackmail of their pedophilia and participation in satanic rituals. The two go hand in hand, just ask Jimmy Saville or Aliester Crowley.

  20. @Anon

    “Shapiro is a repackaged Neocon for millenials.”

    “serving primarily as a door stop that prevents the Right from actually closing the door on the communists and their pawns who will continue to trample those normative views into dust.”

    Bingo! This is Shapiro in a nutshell and the greatest purpose he serves is to his ideological masters and progressive Left forebears.

    The kid is undoubtedly sharp but he is serving the neocons and not the principles of the “old right”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  21. Thanks J. Kirkpatrick for sorting these Shapiro-BBC-hassles out – very insightful article for me.

  22. @Barnard

    Disagree. Are the loudest SJW progressives in favor of deplatforming Shapiro? Yes. But that doesn’t mean he’ll actually be unpersoned. It actually makes it even more useful to keep him around, since allowing him a platform when so many progs loudly hate him creates the illusion of free and open debate.

    Regardless of what you think of him, the guy is extremely popular and a highly effective gatekeeper. Were Shapiro to be booted, it would (a) create a massive angry backlash that could generate high levels of anti-progressive political energy; (b) potentially cause a mass migration to alternative non-progressive tech/media platforms (e.g. Gab). I suspect those progressives that hold real power understand this, and consequently will keep the more rabid SJWs under control vis-a-vis Shapiro (and other similar mainstream conservatives).

    So Shapiro will be kept on board as a foil for leftists. Meanwhile real dissidents will be utterly marginalized because they are simply left out of the conversation/debate.

    As LBJ said of J Edgar Hoover: “I’d rather have him inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.”

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @OEMIKITLOB
    , @Barnard
  23. That Shapiro Meltdown: What It Says About Him—and Conservatism, Inc.

    They’re all utterly fucking worthless. This is news?

  24. Realist says:
    @Cranberries

    As LBJ said of J Edgar Hoover: “I’d rather have him inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.”

    But then LBJ was a god damn idiot. The country would have been better off if he had continued his early work as a day laborer.

  25. Z-man says:
    @utu

    “His goal is to become the first Orthodox Rabbi to seat on the Supreme Court.”

    LOL!!!
    Wait why an I laughing? In this sick world it may hapen!! (Grimace)

  26. eah says:

    Gist of the article:

    He and those like him love to mock Leftists for staying in their safe spaces. But as we’ve now seen, once Shapiro is out of his Conservatism Inc. safe space, he really has nothing to say.

    Most troubling observation:

    More broadly, it’s not Trump who has captured the Establishment Conservative Movement, it’s the Conservative Movement that (as of right now) has captured Trump.

  27. @Sean McBride

    I’d add Uighur and Kurd- before chinese and Arab, respectively.

  28. @Cranberries

    “extremely popular and a highly effective gatekeeper.”

    Agree with your entire comment but the above quoted part is crucial in understanding Shapiro’s usefulness as a Pied Piper of sorts.

    Well said.

  29. Dan Hayes says:

    I believe that most Unz Denizens would agree that Young Benny is a glib, fast-talking loudmouth! Unfortunately, many confuse his staccato glibness with erudition. Nevertheless, I would like to take this opportunity to discuss the person he replaced on nation-wide radio: Michael Savage (nee Michael Weiner).

    Until replaced, Savage was extremely popular; second only to Windbag Limbaugh. Hard to believe that Young Benny will ever approach this popularity. Now admittedly Savage blew hot and cold, but sometimes he could be critical of his coreligionists as well as Israel itself! Another example of non-Conservative Inc thought crime: his support for Russia as exemplified in his interviewing Prof Steve Cohen. Sure Savage could say one thing on Monday and then contradict it on Tuesday; but when he was good, he was very good. He is missed, especially when one considers being replaced by Young Benny the Loudmouth.

    • Replies: @KenH
  30. geokat62 says:

    1,700 words that could have been summed up by 6:

    Ben Shapiro is a Zionist shill.

    • Replies: @Vianney
    , @pb
  31. Ben Shapiro talks too fast to be taken seriously. You hear this same style on NPR. We are suppose to believe he’s smart because he talks fast. Girls do this.

    Fact is the guy repeats himself all the time. So when forced to think and step off the rails of his inner monologue he sputters and loses control like we witnessed in his BBC interview.

    Shapiro has his cozy niche as the voice against all things liberal. It’s all show and designed to deflate listeners ambitions. After all, motor mouth Ben is attacking our opponents. They don’t stand a chance! Look how Ben shredded them!

    Truth is he did nothing. Shapiro merely animates the political discussion so it can be dragged out for public consumption.

    Shapiro’s schtick is played out. I wish he would go away.

    • Agree: renfro
    • LOL: utu
    • Replies: @Fuerchtegott
  32. Argonne18 says:

    Shapiro is, at his core, a Jewish supremacist, and an Israel Firster. He is allowed his media niche access based on that. If he changed those stances, he would already be de-platformed and marginalized.

  33. Barnard says:
    @Cranberries

    If progressives continue to have success, Shapiro will cease to be useful to them. If they can move the Overton window far enough his options will be limited to changing his views, which he will almost certainly do, or get unpersoned. Don’t assume the progressives who are in charge now can control the crazies in the rank and file. There is already evidence they are losing control.

  34. @American citizen

    He is an entry into Petersonianism and Harrisonism for confused and guilt tripped young people.

    • Replies: @American citizen
  35. kikz says:
    @Sean McBride

    y, little ‘master’ is hampered w/o ‘blaster’………………………..

  36. kikz says:

    what it says about him… that he was playing ‘dress up’. wake TFU, y’all.

  37. PeterMX says:

    I would like to know when the term “Judeo-Christian” was coined. It’s used like it’s 1,000 years old. I assume it is a 20th century American invention, probably after the Scofield bible was first published. I don’t believe Christian Europeans felt so close to Jews that they felt they had the same values. Christianity and maybe especially Catholicism distinguished clearly between Christianity and Judaism. For one thing, I believe before Vatican II Catholicism said if you don’t accept Jesus as the son of God, you don’t go to heaven.

  38. . . . Shapiro surprisingly lost his cool . . .

    I’ve only seen Shapiro speak in a handful of YT’s, but I did not find this the least bit surprising: his voice and face is so full of tension in any situation that’s even mildly adversarial that he clearly is at frequent risk of losing all composure.

    And the whole Judeoskeptic world, left and right, now knows his Moses heel: absolutely anything that calls out his existence as a Jew, especially as a Zionist Jew. Like that rabbi at Spencer’s Texas A&M speech, these people have become so overweaning in their arrogance that they are completely unprepared to be criticized qua Jewry.

  39. @utu

    The holocaust was so sad!

    • LOL: David
  40. annamaria says:

    ” a recent anti-abortion bill in Georgia a return to the Dark Ages. ”
    — Agree.

    Here is Alabama Governor of Kay Ivey, an old promiscuous woman who broke her marriage wows twice. She never had a child (whether by protecting herself from pregnancy or not being able to conceive) and she has never adopted a child.
    A family life was never her priority.

    And this is the best that the conservative Alabamians are able to produce? It seems that Mrs. Kay Ivey has not been living and behaving like a normal kind-hearted and caring woman. And now she is designated as a conservative Warrior for Morals and assumed a dictatorial role of deciding how other families must live?
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/15/politics/alabama-governor-signs-bill/index.html
    https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/kay-ivey-husband-married-children/

  41. Altai says:

    I’m continuously amused (But hardly surprised) that in all the shadow-boxing about Shapiro being racist, that his copious vicious unhinged ranting about the Palestinians (Seemingly Israel is the only thing he cares about) never go cited. I mean it’s game over after that isn’t it? Yet his MSM opponents never get there…

    • Replies: @Spanky
  42. If racist behavior in a workplace should lead to firing, I have seen a lot of workplaces first hand where openly racist hiring & retention was never punished via firing. These included 2 large-scale government agencies with at least 80% (if not 90%) Black new hires & Black civil servants. I worked in one and worked in close proximity to another.

    Those who could wade through the landmine fields of daily abuse to make it a year, getting civil servant status, were almost all Black. The few whites who were hired had to take a bunch of 2-hour tests onsite at a state building, plus waiting on a long list for a year. Many interviews were also required to snag one of the few available $12-per-hour jobs. All of the jobs required a college degree.

    All of that effort is for naught in most cases, even if you get a job as a white person, as I tried to explain to a very bitter, white, master’s degree holder, business owner and mom who called me in to interview for a retail job that she staffs entirely with young college-aged girls. She did it just so she could see “how I got that state job” when she couldn’t get one with a master’s degree.

    The problem she had was two-fold: 1) a master’s degree in a non-management job and 2) whiteness. She was cutthroat enough, verbally mean enough, calculating enough and womb-productive enough to fit in with the other moms there, but she had that whiteness problem.

    And most of the dug-in, crony-parent managers in the many family-friendly, absenteeism-friendly jobs do not want to compete with a master’s degree holder who might seek a management position, even if she’s Black in some cases. This is also true when people with just a bachelor’s degree seek employment in the many offices where all or most managers and employees lack a degree, but remember: all of their kids are geniuses and going to college!

    Just like me (and multiple white colleagues that I encountered in a series of low-wage temp jobs after that government job), the jerk-me-around mom business owner would have needed to hit the temp-job circuit pretty quickly if she had landed a state job, especially if she lacked spousal income to back her up, enabling her to go into business for herself. Many divorced moms parlay their home equity from a failed, but womb-productive, marriage into similar franchise-buying opportunities.

    Most of the moms in the almost always mom-dominated, and sometimes Black-dominated, corporate office jobs have one (or more than one) stream of unearned income related to their womb production—not their work production—to hoist up the pay which is often lower than $12 per hour. It’s often between $9 — $11 per hour for most of the jobs in large corporate settings, like underwriting jobs, credit processing jobs, CSR jobs and various types of sales and sales support jobs.

    [MORE]

    That’s okay with the moms since spousal income, a rent-covering child support check or their pay from goverment for womb-productive sex in a single-breadwinner household (their free EBT food, monthly cash assistance, reduced-cost housing, free electricity and up to $6,431 in refundable child tax credit cash) hoists up their pay to livable levels, especially if they work officially part time, keeping their earned income below the welfare programs’ earned-income limits.

    Many of the married moms work unofficially part time, scampering out of the building every day hours before closing with the blessing of crony-mom managers who likewise take a ton of time off. Moms frequently come in very late due to the same school traffic that childless employees must navigate. Moms take whole days, afternoons, mornings and whole weeks off beyond PTO & preggie leave, all without getting fired even when they fail to meet the quotas. Moms with unearned income from a spouse accept crony-absenteeism privileges (for moms) as a consolation for pay that does not cover rent for single, non-welfare-eligible women and single, non-welfare-eligible moms with kids over 18.

    I may as well not mention the men that add a third element to this very non-diverse discrimination circus with a trio of racism, momism (or really ageism) and sexism since there are no men. Or, there are one or two, unusually in management jobs, and those few are always dads. When one really nice mom’s husband, a man who is wayyyy more qualified than most of these people education-wise, finally got a management job in one of the many 100%-mom-staffed back-office workplaces in the field where I hold licenses, she was worried about all of those women, flirting with the one man in the huge corporate building.

    I have interviewed in for 3 similar corporate back-office jobs in this field where I hold licenses, and all of them were staffed with 100% moms, with mom managers explaining that they needed “someone who fit in.” They were all rude, but one was super-rude, a mom manager who left mid interview in the middle of the afternoon to get ready for a date since “busy single moms never get a night out.” Ummm, yes they do, and in that discriminatory all-mom office, the “culture fits” get lots of work days off, too.

    All of those offices were staffed with all-white moms.

    But many corporations, not just government agencies, hire almost all Black moms. There were a few men in the three 90%-Black (or, in one case, 80% other minority) mobile call centers that I interviewed in. There were a few more men there than in the financial services back offices. There were even more men in the 80%-Black auto-club call center.

    One of the corporate settings with a racist workforce composition that I worked in was a large-scale big-pharma office with a 90%-Black staff. Black managers chose 9 out of 10 Black permanent hires from a pool of 178 temps, jokingly saying that “we need a diversity panel,” as they paraded their choices from training room to training room just for kicks and giggles. Before working there as a temp, I spent an entire day being jerked around in their lengthy, good cop / bad cop, game-playing interview process—more if you count all of the phone screening.

    I had worked in similar jobs, but again, I have white skin pigmentation and no birth-canal exits.

    I interviewed twice for another large corporate back office that is more of a processing job, sitting with an employee for an hour to “shadow” her as she completed a few cases and did a lot of FB grandbaby-show-off posting. It was full to the brim with Black, mostly childbearing-aged, female employees, just like many other corporate back offices. The managers were mostly Black. Temp agency girls called me later to get someone with the legally required crendential in their list of interviewees, even though the place is staffed almost entirely with non-college-educated moms without licenses. I declined to go through all the hoop-jumping again, including filling out tons of paperwork, plus the expense to interview for this racist corporate back-office job.

    Like many jobs with all white moms, these people also discriminate against single, childless women.

    In the case of a near-100%-Black call center in that same field, I was just told point blank by temp agency girls can that I was “not a culture fit.” I am not sure what is worse: being spared the run-around interview process by straight talk from the young temp agency girls in their youth-dominated, pre-child-bearing-aged, female-dominated field or being their stooge, interviewing for jobs where racist (or momist) hiring preferences are strictly enforced.

    When you occasionally get an office job as a “non culture fit,” it can be as punishing as being unemployed before even taking into consideration how expensive the low-wage job is, including the fact that rent absorbs more than half of your earned-only income, and when you lose the churn job, you don’t have the cushion of spousal income or pay streams from Uncle Sam for sex and reproduction out-of-wedlock.

    Non-womb-productive females who meet the quotas every month, coming to work every day and staying all day, are subject to firing over any trivial infraction. And it’s not done in a nice, or even a civilized way, by these absentee crony-barracuda moms. These corrupt, colluding mommas, with their baby-pic-plastered desks and their constant cutesy mom-bonding parties at work, are often sadists when it comes to firing “non culture fits” who meet the quotas each month and don’t miss work.

    It’s probably ‘cause they lack a legit reason for doing it.

    When you’re a white, non-womb-productive woman, you have two sets of Low Wokeman Scores working against you. You are not an above-firing, womb-privileged, feminist mom, and you are not in a legally protected minority group.

    The wages are very, very low in the female-dominated jobs where the vast majority of women still work. Wages aredriven lower by so many moms with unearned income who do not need higher pay. So, the economic consequences of being churned due to corrupt, back-watching absenteeism-friendly, womb-privileged cronyism are brutal, especially since most Americans get not one penny of UC to cover rent between churn jobs.

    A few Americans stay on UC for months, and months and months, and every one that I’ve met had spousal income or access to pay-per-birth welfare, albeit UC does count against a welfare mom’s expenses, reducing her access to the pay-per-birth freebies. But most American citizens get zero UC and zero.zero welfare, with tax returns that won’t cover even a small household bill, not $6,431 in refundable child tax credit cash to spend at the beach with a boyfriend.

    I’m afraid the reality of the welfare-rigged system of momist, reverse-racist and low-wage churn jobs is far, far beyond the comprehension of any of our pundit class, regardless of their positions on Trump or on any other issue.

    Trump has actually become the sole broadcast news topic—Trump, the man. But even if he’s voted out, there won’t be any honest discussion of these economic issues. There are just too many factions at the top and the bottom of the wage pool, using elements of their personal lives—their kids, their skin-pigmentation hue, their internal plumbing etc.—to game the system. It’s lucrative for them.

    In a scam-laden and cronyist welfare-fueled churn-job economy where the average “employed” person works part time, and where around 7 million new UC cases join 95 million out-of-the-laborforce citizens (ages 16 to 65) each month, corrupt cronyism with a clubby, factional theme to humanize it (diversity [through all-Black hiring] or more paid time off for “working families” [or working moms]) pays more than hard work or even work production (as opposed to womb production).

  43. I gave up on Shapiro years ago after he nearly ripped out the throat of a journalist asking about the Israeli connection to 9/11.

  44. KenH says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Now admittedly Savage blew hot and cold, but sometimes he could be critical of his coreligionists as well as Israel itself!

    (((Savage))) has fingered Jews on occasion but then must feel like a self hating Jew or get a few oi vey phone calls since he’ll drop the subject like a hot potato a day or two later.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  45. Ben Shapiro’s attacks on the European Christian ancestral core of the United States are much more damaging to the interests of White Core Americans than the outgassings of random corporate propaganda whore Blacks such as Charles Blow at the New York Times.

    Ben Shapiro pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and anti-White multicultural mayhem.

    Ben Shapiro is openly attacking the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Ben Shapiro wants to continue to use mass legal immigration as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    Ben Shapiro wants to continue to use the US military as muscle to fight wars on behalf of Israel.

  46. @Fuerchtegott

    Jordan Peterson is different. He helps all people. Shapiro helps himself and his people.

    In my mind there is no comparison. Peterson is much older with a track record of experience. He deserves credit for his observations. He has labored much of his life over ponderous questions. Shapiro spouts propaganda.

    Peterson helps.

    Shapiro hinders.

    • Replies: @Fuerchtegott
  47. anon[137] • Disclaimer says:

    Shapiro’s conservatism is orthodox Judaism
    not American conservatism.
    he is a fraud and gate blocker, propagandist.

    Gentiles can have abortions. Not Jews.

    • Replies: @Henry_Bowman U.C.
  48. Ben Shapiro is an evil corporate propaganda whore for the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Ben Shapiro is a Bolshevik Jew. Ben Shapiro is actively pushing immigration policies and other policies that are a clear and present threat to the safety, security and sovereignty of White Core Americans.

    Ben Shapiro is doing everything he can to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

  49. Some of the political commentators are getting bored with the Israel First overlay that permeates the political class in the USA. Some of them, such as Michael Tracey, are bored enough that they challenge Israel First Benny “Bolshevik Boy” Shapiro to a debate.

    Tracey would rhetorically eviscerate Benny “Bolshevik Boy” Shapiro in a debate on Jewish identity politics and Israel.

  50. Ben Shapiro is an anti-White Bolshevik Jew who pushes mass legal immigration and multiculturalism.

    There is no such thing as so-called “Judeo-Christianity.” No eternal truth in the nonsense called “Judeo-Christian.”

    There is such a thing as Jew Bolshevism. Jew Bolsheviks are using mass legal immigration and illegal immigration as demographic weapons to attack and destroy European Christian nations.

    • Replies: @redmudhooch
  51. Benny “Bolshevik Jew” Shapiro wants to continue to use the US military as muscle to fight wars on behalf of Israel in the Middle East and West Asia.

  52. Vianney says:
    @geokat62

    AGREE (shouting for emphasis)

  53. Anon[251] • Disclaimer says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    That’s right. Except that I may have been too inadvertently indirect. In my context, Neocon is an absolute synonym for ethnonationalist Jew with aggressive anti-White politics.

    In other words, I didn’t mean to imply that Shapiro has made a choice to be in service to an independent political group known as the Neoconservatives. Instead and in fact, Shapiro’s core ethnic and racial identity is the Jewish / Neocon group.

    Shapiro is a quintessential politically active member of his race, rather than in service to a group. If that makes sense.

    I hold that any distinction between any Jewish person and a Neocon is either superficial or false, as the Jewish anti-out-group political view (essentially an imperialist / slavers view that seeks to deny the national integrity of anyone else) and all of its resultant strategies, including the Neocon gatekeeping strategy, is inherent in mainstream Judaism.

    As an aside: the Neocon strategy’s only nuance is that it tries to be indirectly preventative against European self-determination, usually through the promotion of individualism and libertarianism when communicating to an audience of non-Jews, rather than actively condemning of it unless and until gentile Whites get to the point where they are about to gain significant power. As we saw when the Neocons went full anti-White ramping up to and then during the 2016 election season.

  54. Oh boy, I’m afraid this interview does nothing for his image. “Destroyed” is lightly put.

    Also he can stop pretending to be a Never Trumper now, really. Trump is basically his dream come true, a neocon puppet president who: pursues an Israel-centric, imperialist foreign policy; vastly increases the Israel Defense Fund aka “Defense” budget to perpetuate the military industrial complex; gives big business everything they want including mass increase in immigration.

    • Replies: @Vianney
  55. Vianney says:
    @PeterMX

    Good thought — might have started with Scofield

    But cemented in mainstream post-WWII.

    The niggling notion that ‘maybe sort of some kind of coup took place in the era of the World Wars — aka The Zionist Wars ‘– demands to be crystallized, shaped into a pithy narrative; normalized and mainstreamed:

    (Something like) “In the early 20th century Jews orchestrated a coup of not just United States but of all heirs to Christian and Logos-based civilizational values.

    FDR collaborated in the most significant phase of the Jewish coup.”

    Amendment and refinement welcome.

  56. @American citizen

    Peterson brags shameless about helping people.
    But he doesn’t.

    He is Shapiro’s peoples man.
    Their conman for fools in a weak situation.

    But there is no actual value in wasting time talking to Peterson fans.

    Because, while the barbarians are invading, Petersons whole Schtick is to keep you busy standing up straight in moms basement and get your room clean.

    Bascially sophisticated cuckold femdom sissy fetish porn.
    Mademaid.com

    Just in case you aren’t a lost soul, I’d recommend Jordanetics or or a review of the book.

    youtu.be/mQYTsdkRbIQ

    And just from an intellectual point of view, what good can a professor be, who specializes in Russian and German authors, who only managed to learn no foreign language?

    Might be no problem for an ‘murican audience,
    aber aus einer standhaften und stattlichen Perspektive heraus betrachtet ist Peterson nicht mehr als ein Fliegenschiss, den man entsprechenden Fischlein als Köderchen hinhalten mag.

  57. Ben Shapiro is a conservative? Who knew? I always thought he was just another Zionist commie, but then I never cared enough to listen to anything he had to say.

  58. wayfarer says:

    Revolutionary Methods for Political Control.
    http://newworldwar.org

    If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.

    – Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

  59. @anon

    2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist

    Ben Shapiro rejects Christ and is thus controlled by the spirit of antichrist.

  60. Vianney says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    Maybe because I’ve never seen Shapiro before, when he was, presumably, NOT destroyed, I failed to see Destruction in this episode.
    Lots of fast-talking on BS’s part, while BBC guy remained calm, but there was no Killing Blow, and BS will be back and unimpaired by, i.e.having his sword-arm broken or his tongue cut out, so No, Shapiro was not Destroyed

    Not even dinged.
    It’s all theater & dime-to-donuts BBC is right out of central casting.

    • Agree: mark green
  61. • Replies: @anon
  62. anon[320] • Disclaimer says:

    i listened to it several times now and the old British guy had an agenda, trying to make Shapiro look bad – also the British buy isn’t a conservative either because the parties are so far left over there

    good on Shapiro to admit his mistakes but he still doesn’t have the nerve to debate Vox Day

  63. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:

    Call him names all you want but did you watch that rally in the Florida panhandle? People absolutely adore this man and he them. This not an act. He speaks to them from the heart. All you haters live in elitist blue zones; you have the answers? Just what the heck are those answers? Bernie socialism light? Charles Murray libertarianism? Hillary globalism? Trump’s a strong leader like Xi and Kim and Putin and history tells the unending tale of waring peoples battling each other to the death of one over the other. For instance Genghis Khan killed 30 million in the Iranian plateau 800 years ago. Aberration? There was no power to stop the Mongols. It’s always been a power struggle with Humans, and always will be. You think maybe Gillibrand or Klobuchar or Marianne Williamson can leads us into the future?

    • Replies: @anon
  64. anon[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    who cares?

    if he doesn’t have the balls to stand up and deliver what he promised on the wall and deporting all the trash what’s the point?

  65. KenH says:

    Part of Andrew Neil’s line of questioning was “gotcha journalism” as Shapiro charged, but I really don’t have much sympathy for little Ben Shapiro given his attacks on pro-white racial activists. Just imagine Ben’s response if Richard Spencer or any other alt-right luminaries characterized blacks the way Benjamin did in his tweet about “Arabs bombing crap”. The pint sized hebe and the rest of (((conservatism, inc.))) would be calling for that person’s scalp.

    As far as Andrew Neil being a conservative, ok, I don’t really follow the Brit political scene enough to know, but let’s not forget that Theresa May is also a conservative and she’s no friend of white British ethnonationalists. In fact, she’s the bane of any white Brits who don’t hate themselves and want to keep Britain for white Brits.

    Andrew Neil is probably the type of conservative, or rather cuckservative, who thinks race doesn’t matter, that third world immigration poses no threat and who’s left of center on a range of social issues. IOW, he’s probably a conservative in name only, but then, conservatism has drifted left on so many of its core issues that the label is almost meaningless these days.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  66. @PeterMX

    To the extent that G00g can answer the question using ‘Trends’ for the last 14 years and ngrams for the 200 before that, the phrase ‘Judeo-Christian’ started around 1870, declined from 1890 to 1925, and then greatly increased, until about 2000, since which a slight decline.

    It therefore seems strongly tied in origin to the 3rd and 4th Great American Revivals and low-church concerns with converting the Jews during ‘The ‘Tribulation’, with Jewish neo-Cons cynically latching on to the trend since the 1980’s. Good to see it may be fading.

  67. Revealing.

    No going to listen to the Jewess anymore.

  68. Anon[856] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Ben is less a thinker or commentator than a celebrity pundit.

    Or more like a Celebrat.

    He was groomed for this from youth.

  69. @KenH

    Andrew Neil is probably the type of conservative, or rather cuckservative, who thinks race doesn’t matter, that third world immigration poses no threat and who’s left of center on a range of social issues.

    I appreciate why you might think that – but in fact you are completely incorrect. Andrew Neil, so far from what the laughably-stupid and adolescently-arrogant Ben Shapiro may choose to think, is one of the m0st senior, respected, knowledgeable and scrupulously fair-minded journalists in Britain. He is admired from both sides of the political fence for his openness, even-handedness, and absolute refusal to bow to the prevalent fashionable political or media moods of the day.

    He is also, at rock-bottom, a VERY old-school Scottish-Presbyterian conservative, and a purist for honesty, common-sense and truth. He doesn’t suffer fools gladly, so the days are long-gone when he will back down to a childish, ill-tempered verbal nobody who looks and sounds like a particularly arrogant and obnoxious high-school graduate, but appears to think he’s some kind of political big shot.

    And unfortunately also for Shapiro, in common with very many British people, the gruff, dour, hard-bitten veteran journalist and investigator in Andrew Neil doesn’t give a Celtic shit for the personality cults which now govern American media discourse – or for any jumped-up Jew talking-head in a flashy suit who appears to think he can say and do whatever he likes just because he’s a Jew.

    There’s really nothing else to say about this particular car-crash – except that, like so many brash, arrogant, over-reaching and embarrassingly-inept Jews, this arrogant, immature, racist, White-hating, Palestinian-murdering Zionist scumbag has been stupid enough on prime-time television to show once again that he, and his whole Beltway “advising” clan, are the most ignorant – and dangerous – men in America.

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Templar
  70. sarz says:

    What’s happened to Unz Review? Where’s the usual good stuff?

  71. @Fuerchtegott

    When Jordan Peterson admonishes teenagers to clean their room it’s to illustrate a point. He is saying start with small things before you move onto big things.

    Pretty simple.

    It’s good advice.

    Also, you don’t know Peterson’s private opinion about Shapiro. He may dislike him. He may hate him. He may like him. Who knows?

    Why should Dr. Peterson even go there? It would be unproductive. He is taken seriously by a great many people. He makes good money. He tries to help people reform their own lives. And in the process maybe reform the world.

    Your negative opinion of the man is your choice. But many others have chosen the opposite.

    Maybe one day you’ll find your Fuhrer.

    • Replies: @Fuerchtegott
    , @frankie p
  72. @American citizen

    Somebody needs to help you with your insults.
    You monolingual hero won’t.
    That’s for sure.

    https://www.dict.cc/german-english/Fuhre.html

    • Replies: @American citizen
  73. Good article by Kirkpatrick. It’s good because it dares to examine the Jewish motor that animates conservative frauds such as Ben Shapiro.

    Shapiro will never be de-platformed. Are you kidding? He’s the ideal foil for ‘moderate’ and ‘progressive’ Jews who often snark and growl at ‘conservatives’ like Shapiro but never actually trade punches with them.

    When it comes to really important issues (such as waging trillion-dollar wars on behalf of Israel and keeping US borders porous) these Jewish political ‘opposites’ attract.

    Underneath their ideological veneer, they are all playing on the same team. So enjoy the show.

    Zionist Shapiro and others of his creed are in place so genuine voices for white interests (a Kevin MacDonald or David Duke, for instance) will be marginalized.

    It is a vast and coordinated controlled opposition.

    The essential roles played by crypto-Israeli agents like Shapiro on the Right and, say, Chuck Schumer on the Left, is to keep political discourse inside America free of all anti-Israel expression.

    Meanwhile, America gets invaded, swamped and irreversibly transformed as it spends itself into oblivion on distant wars which benefit the Zionist state.

    Freedom! Democracy! Stop racism!

    The boundaries of acceptable political discourse inside America are increasingly set by crypto-Israelis.

    This agenda explains why ‘centrist’ neocons get to promote serial catastrophies without ever have to say they’re sorry. All they have to do is dress nice, talk smart, appear on TV, and throw in some sincere shrieking over red meat issues such as abortion, the death penalty, and the need to reduce taxes. These are our conservative leaders!

    Pro-Zionist ideologues on the Left meanwhile do righteous battle against ‘right-wingers’ over women’s rights, military spending in general, healthcare issues, and racial discrimination.

    Both wings of this predatory bird however work harmoniously on all matters which are of concern to the Jewish community. This covers a lot of ground.

    This may explain why our political establishment is inching towards passing legislation that equates ‘anti-Israel expression’ with the dreaded disease of ‘anti-Semitism’ which–as we all know–nurtures hate-filled white supremacism and causes genocidal anti-Jewish violence.

    Therefore, in order to protect public safety, ‘anti-Semitic’ talk (including ‘Holocaust denial’) will soon be criminalized.

    Never forget!

    (PS- mandatory courses on genocide in all US public schools are now in place and coming soon to your child’s classroom.)

    Incredibly, taboos which protect Zionism but target ‘white nationalism’ have become the last political taboos standing.

    • Agree: wayfarer
    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Wally
    , @Wally
  74. @Fuerchtegott

    Dr. Peterson is smarter and more successful than you.

    Accept this undeniable fact and go get some rest for the evening.

    • Replies: @CBTerry
  75. geokat62 says:
    @mark green

    As usual, great comment, mark.

    • Agree: OEMIKITLOB, Wally, Pat Kittle
  76. KenH says:
    @Dave Bowman

    He is also, at rock-bottom, a VERY old-school Scottish-Presbyterian conservative, and a purist for honesty, common-sense and truth.

    Well that’s good to know and Shapiro needed his wings clipped and came up against someone who was a seasoned debater not impressed with Shapiro’s credentials. If Andrew Neil worked at FOX and asked Shapiro tough questions he would have mysteriously gone on vacation for two weeks and may have been fired on any other network since he identified Shapiro as Jewish.

    But where does Neil stand on third world immigration into the UK, Muslim terror attacks in the UK and Muslim males making British girls prostitutes? If he stands for honesty, common sense and truth then surely he has addressed these things objectively and from the point of view of Brits who oppose them. Right?

  77. @PeterMX

    Here’s the google ngram

    https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Judeo-christian&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CJudeo%20-%20christian%3B%2Cc0

    I’ve seen earlier usages that largely referred to “Jews for Jesus” converts. It’s a term that would have baffled any Christian Minister a hundred years ago.

    It’s wholesale usage as a grafting of the sucker of yiddism onto the root stock of Western Civilization is recent.

  78. Spanky says:
    @Altai

    But that would require the MSM to recognize and comment upon Palestinians in a positive light, something which is, apparently, forbidden as it might be construed as implicit criticism of Israel. Which results in his critics comically shadowboxing around the 900 pound elephant in the room to protect themselves from charges of — gasp — anti-Semitism.

  79. wayfarer says:

    “Israel Hacking the World.”

  80. utu says:
    @Fuerchtegott

    [Peterson] is Shapiro’s peoples man.. – Correct. Though Peterson has some human qualities unlike Shapiro still he is a problem to distract people from solutions and not ask right questions.

    • Replies: @Fuerchtegott
  81. @PeterMX

    Can’t say when the term was coined exactly, but I don’t recall hearing the term much–if at all–prior to the early 80s and the emergence of The Gipper. In any event, it’s a term used more often by so-called conservatives to cover their collective asses against being accused of being biased towards Christianity and implicit, if benign, anti-Semitism.

  82. @utu

    And as his fangoy here demonstrated, he creates (tbh very stupid) fanatics.

    • Replies: @American citizen
  83. Art says:

    Ben Shapiro: Israelis like to build. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. This is not a difficult issue.

    Apologies! You are correct re: slur about Arabs. Not all Arabs like open sewage and blowing things up. Just Pals and their allies

    Hmm — so no apology to the Palestinians.

    Hmm — In the conflict between Israel and Palestine – Ben says, Israel all good – Palestinians all bad. No honest person can deny that.

    It is clear – Shapiro is another Jewish killer of Palestinians. He is also a thief of Palestinian land. He lies to the America people about his motivations. He favors whatever Israel does to the Palestinians. When he must, he quibbles here and there – but he wants all of Palestine just like Netanyahu, political Israel, and diaspora Jews do. Shapiro is 100% Israel.

    When we discuss Shapiro, we must always keep in mind that he is an advocate for the torture, murder, and disappearance of the Palestinian people.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    p.s. Shapiro is not an American conservative – nor an ideological American anything – he is a Jew.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  84. CBTerry says:
    @eah

    “awesome”? This man has written 10 books, graduated summa cum laude from UCLA, cum laude from Harvard Law School, but he uses the English language like a 14 year-old girl.

    • Replies: @G
  85. Wally says:
    @mark green

    said:
    “(PS- mandatory courses on genocide in all US public schools are now in place and coming soon to your child’s classroom.)”

    And the easily demonstrated impossible fraud of the profitable “holocaust” leads the pack, of course.

    There are over 100 “Holocaust” related “museums” in the US alone, all receive US taxpayer funding for an overwhelmingly highly paid Jew staff.

    Facts on one of them, the so called ‘US ‘Holocaust’ Memorial Museum:

    Tax exempt cash taken in by USHMM, aka: ‘Holocau$t’ Theme Park, for fiscal year 2016 which supports huge salaries for Jews only, with most of the remaining money going to Jews & Zionist organizations: $151,826,695.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/042717-IRS-Form-990-FY16.pdf

    US taxpayers money to the USHMM in the 2017 budget: 56,999,500.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20160209-fy17-pres-budget-request.pdf

  86. Wally says:
    @mark green

    Mark Green said:
    “Therefore, in order to protect public safety, ‘anti-Semitic’ talk (including ‘Holocaust denial’) will soon be criminalized.”

    Below is where free speech on the truly impossible “holocaust” storyline is already illegal, violators go to prison for Thought Crimes. In all western countries, persecution, harassment, violent attacks & threats are the order of the day against those who engage in free speech about the impossible claims within it.
    Those are obvious admissions that the storyline doesn’t stand up to scientific, logical, & rational scrutiny.

    Prepare yourself, the move is a foot to ban free speech on this scam in the US.
    What will you do about it?

    http://www.codoh.com

  87. Thomm says:

    Shapiro is a NeverTrump cuckservative, and grovels to women whenever he can.

    But WN wiggers will not rise if Shapiro’s faction goes down, since the only constant of US politics is that WN wiggers are always on the losing side (as they should be, under the natural order).

    • Replies: @anon
  88. CBTerry says:
    @American citizen

    And it is an undeniable fact that Dr. Peterson is a paragon of emotional stability.

    • Replies: @American citizen
  89. renfro says:
    @PeterMX

    Judeo Christian was originally a term used to refer to Jewish converts to Christianity.

    The term began to appear in the US during World War II. It was started by some religious leaders as a way to be more ‘inclusive’ of immigrants of different faiths….specifically the Jews because of the Jewish holocaust claims and anti Semitism.
    .
    It morphed from there into political use especially after the establishment of Israel….its mainly a political tool for Zionist and a cult belief for the evangelicals.

    There is nothing Judeo about Christianity or visa versa…..Jews and Christians got divorced in Jesus’s time over irreconcilable differences.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
    , @OEMIKITLOB
  90. geokat62 says:
    @Art

    … he is a Jew.

    Art, the problem with Ben Shapiro is not that he is a Jew. The problem is that he’s a supremacist Jew. We need to hammer this point home over and over again. We have no issue with ordinary Jews… are only issue is with Jewish supremacists.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @renfro
    , @Art
  91. anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    But WN wiggers will not rise if Shapiro’s faction goes down, since the only constant of US politics is that WN wiggers are always on the losing side (as they should be, under the natural order).

    what is it with “thomm” – white women rejected him or he suffers from short penis?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  92. bjondo says:
    @geokat62

    from a diseased belief system
    diseased minds
    the disease passed generation to generation.

    the system is supremacist.
    there are degrees of trickery,
    types of tricksters.

    in my very humble opinion.

  93. renfro says:
    @geokat62

    Well I agree but the problem is when push comes to shove most little Jews will follow and cling to the tribe….not many of them can over come the tribal brain washing that tells them they cant trust non Jews to be fair or not hostile to them
    That basically rules out any starting point….with any but the most independent thinkers among them.

    • Agree: Cleburne
    • Replies: @geokat62
  94. indocon says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    In hindsight, that is mostly true, if the Democrats had set up Obamacare with one main difference, funded it with deficit spending instead of cutting Medicare, I bet they may have still kept the house in 2010 and actually be able to do a lot more change til 2014.

  95. @Fuerchtegott

    Are you threatened by Jordan Peterson?

    He’s a married man with children. Trying to help some people. Do you think he wakes up every day thinking of ways to destroy civilization?

    I personally don’t think he’s nearly as important as you do. He’s just one guy with something to say.

    Did you skip your meds this week?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  96. indocon says:

    Post Trump, first thing us deolorables (including mine variety) need to do is to get rid of this term Judeo-Christian, instead of it call it something like “beer drinking north western European Protestant culture” that is open to anybody who excepts it’s basic principles.

  97. @CBTerry

    He’s a little emotional. That’s true.

    But he isn’t the evil guy you and others are making him out to be.

    Get a grip on reality.

    Ever think he has his own private opinions? Thoughts and ideas he keeps to himself for fear of being ostracized?

  98. geokat62 says:
    @renfro

    Well I agree but the problem is when push comes to shove most little Jews will follow and cling to the tribe….

    Any Jew who supports the nefarious agenda of Organized Jewry that intentionally commits crimes against humanity is by definition a Jewish supremacist.

  99. Polemos says:
    @Sean McBride

    Does it make you wonder whom they silenced before they came for you? How many have we missed because they were vanished long before we noticed some go missing?

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  100. frankie p says:
    @American citizen

    “Why should Dr. Peterson even go there? It would be unproductive. He is taken seriously by a great many people. He makes good money.”

    He should go there to pursue the truth. If you refuse to “go there” because someone who has undue and unjust influence and control of the system could cut down your revenue stream, guess what? You have just joined the corrupt system. Peterson has joined the corrupt system. Yes, he tries to help people reform their lives, and I have a lot of respect for him for a lot of his message. You have to cringe though, when he refused to field a question on the role of Jews in the Holomodor. You have to cringe when he goes on and on about the sins of the Bolsheviks against the Kulaks, and then ignores who made up most of the hierarchy of those Bolsheviks. At first, you ask yourself if perhaps he may be unaware of this history, but ultimately you see that he is an intelligent man, and the truth is that he is frightened to address the issue of revolutionary Jews and their culture of critique and war on the Christian west because he fears that they could derail his career.

    Frankie P

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  101. Art says:
    @geokat62

    … he is a Jew.

    Art, the problem with Ben Shapiro is not that he is a Jew. The problem is that he’s a supremacist Jew. We need to hammer this point home over and over again. We have no issue with ordinary Jews… are only issue is with Jewish supremacists.

    Geokat62,

    The truth is that there are many fine Jews who conduct their personal lives in an ethical manner. But that is not true when it comes to politics.

    Aren’t almost all Jews political supremacists? In round numbers, let us say that 80% of all Jews are supremacists. When it comes to politics, 4 out of 5 Jews are Zionist supporters of Israel. Israel is a supremacist nation.

    The problem is that the 20% of the “good” Jews will say nothing about the 80% bad Jews. So, we are really facing all Jews when it comes to Israel.

    Only with the hot breath of the word “JEW” on their necks – will anything change.

    When the 20% find their senses and take on the 80% – we can drop the “Jew” word.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  102. lavoisier says: • Website

    I do not see evidence of such a huge meltdown.

    This interviewer would aggravate me as well.

    I do not like some of the things that Mr. Shapiro has said in the past–let’s hunt down racists immediately comes to mind–but I see nothing here to suggest that Mr. Shapiro did anything on this show to make one want to dislike him.

    The guy was obviously trying to bait Mr. Shapiro and he basically told him to f— off.

    So what?

  103. geokat62 says:
    @American citizen

    He’s just one guy with something to say.

    Indeed. Why not watch this half-hour video and give us your thoughts on whether people should feel threatened by JP?

    Here’s the YT description of the video:

    A documentary exposing Jordan Peterson’s agenda to subvert and destroy the rising political right wing, and neutralize European nationalism.

    This video completely exposes Peterson’s anti-White agenda and his strategy for implementing it. Any Peterson fans who are not beyond saving will be deprogrammed by watching this video.
    Jordan Peterson’s primary goal is to neutralize the political right and White identity. He does not care about the Marxist take over of our nations, in fact he was hired by the United Nations to help usher it along. Peterson’s only reason for stepping into the limelight was because he saw a massive right wing backlash fomenting, and realized it was going to destroy the left.

    His job is to implement “plan B”, to steer the rising tide of nationalism into an impotent cul-de-sac of centrist individualism, giving our enemies just enough time to tip the demographic balance of our countries so that our destruction is sealed.

    Peterson is explicitly targeting young White males for indoctrination with an insidious political ideology he calls radical individualism. He has created a pseudo-religion self-help cult; he is delivering his ideology to the disaffected youth by combining it with a self-help regimen wrapped in empty religious metaphor.

    While our enemies are working tirelessly to destroy our nations in a ruthlessly calculated and organized fashion, Jordan Peterson is brainwashing a generation of young White men to be atomized individuals who perceive group cooperation based on ethnic identity and nationality as the height of evil.

    And in the process of doing so, Peterson and his friends are making untold millions of dollars.

  104. Shapiro: “…’Arabs’ who like to ‘bomb crap’…”

    Is “crap” a Freudian slip?

  105. @renfro

    There is nothing Judeo about Christianity or visa versa…..Jews and Christians got divorced in Jesus’s time over irreconcilable differences.

    Bravo.

  106. @renfro

    “Jews and Christians got divorced in Jesus’s time over irreconcilable differences.”

    Glad to see this stated as this fact is often overlooked or misrepresented.

    • Replies: @Hank Yobo
  107. @frankie p

    “He should go there to pursue the truth. If you refuse to “go there” because someone who has undue and unjust influence and control of the system could cut down your revenue stream, guess what? You have just joined the corrupt system.”

    Are you being sanctimonious here, idealistic or have you just not fully though through the implications of this statement?

    Do you file and pay your taxes? If so, why do you unduly burden Mr. Peterson with a task that you yourself will not carry out?

    I have no dog in this hunt. Just thinking out loud.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
  108. james, I have long been a fan of yours…I have even published on vdare (years ago)…but can we please admit that the dissident Right is now effectively dead? vdare and numbersUSA and all other similar organizations, the alt-right etc., have all been completely ineffective…we have no power..and i do not see any pathway to power or any path to achieving the goals of the Dissident Right…at this point our best option is probably to vote for the best radical Dems possible…yang, gabbard, bernie etc…hope to collapse the system…because that is our only chance…and it is only a slim chance….the establishment is propping up the ponzi economy by increasing consumer demand via immigration…and as long as the economy does not collapse we have no chance at all…

  109. geokat62 says:
    @Art

    When the 20% find their senses and take on the 80% – we can drop the “Jew” word.

    Be that as it may, I still prefer the term “Jewish supremacist” as it has the additional benefit of discrediting the charge they level against Westerners, namely “white supremacists.” It debunks this lie and makes clear that this charge is pure projection on their part, as their religious texts, unlike ours, are filled with supremacist dogmas.

    • Agree: mark green, lavoisier
  110. Hank Yobo says:
    @OEMIKITLOB

    “Jews and Christians got divorced in Jesus’s time over irreconcilable differences.”

    Not quite. The early Church benefitted from its association with Judaism because the latter was a Religio licita. The early Church also remained headquartered in Jerusalem for many years to which the Apostle Paul sent funds for the relief of the poor. It was only towards the end of the first century, especially after the destruction of Herod’s temple by the Romans and unrealized eschatology, that Christianity emerged from Judaism’s shadow. Jesus was a Jew. Saul/Paul was a Jew. Peter was a Jew, as were all the other apostles. First-century Judaism was a large and vibrant theological tent.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @OEMIKITLOB
  111. bjondo says:
    @Hank Yobo

    “Vibrant” wrong word.

    Judaizm has always been an evil belief system

    creating demented, evil thugs and persecutors (saul to Paul)

    requiring Christ to come and save mankind.

    The struggle continues.

    From the father of lies, his spawn of liars.

    Born of the Lie.

    Lying in the BELIEF SYSTEM’S DNA

  112. @Art

    One can find strains of “supremacist” thought in many cultures around the world.

    “Supremacism,” in increasing degrees of intensity, may mean:

    1. a preference for one’s culture over other cultures
    2. the conviction that one’s culture is intrinsically superior to other cultures
    3. the certainty that one’s culture will prevail over all other cultures

    Human beings seem to be hardwired to some degree for these attitudes and they may play an important role in the tribal competition among cultural groups for territory, resources, power, success, etc.

    One can find an abundance of evidence for “supremacist” attitudes among various cultures, including, but certainly not limited to:

    -American supremacists
    -Arab supremacists
    -Asian supremacists
    -black supremacists
    -British supremacists
    -Chinese supremacists
    -Christian supremacists
    -European supremacists
    -feminist supremacists
    -German supremacists
    -Hindu supremacists
    -Iranian supremacists
    -Japanese supremacists
    -Jewish supremacists
    -Marxist supremacists
    -Muslim supremacists
    -Roman Catholic supremacists
    -Western supremacists
    -white supremacists

    For instance, one school of feminists is embarked on a mission to smash the patriarchy and replace it with a matriarchy. They are convinced that females are innately superior to males and should rule human societies.

    People of color supremacists are convinced that white cultures should be destroyed and replaced by what they consider to be a superior nonwhite culture (or collection of superior nonwhite cultures).

    The charge of “supremacism” against other groups is often the expression of supremacist attitudes by the charging group. What is really being asserted is that my group is superior to your group and that we intend to dominate you — and perhaps utterly eradicate you.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  113. @Polemos

    It’s best to nip threats in the bud, at the earliest possible opportunity?

  114. geokat62 says:
    @Sean McBride

    What is really being asserted is that my group is superior to your group and that we intend to dominate you — and perhaps utterly eradicate you.

    I posted this information before, but it merits reposting:

    [MORE]

    THE JEWISH TALMUD is “Holy Writ” for the Jews.

    The Talmud supercedes the Old Testament in authority for the Jews. And the Talmud is the most racist, hate-mongering , blasphemous book the world has ever known.

    The Talmud was written in Hebrew between the 3rd & 6th Centuries as a codification of the so-called Oral Law that the Jewish rabbis claim was handed down from Moses.

    But the Messiah Jesus censored the “Oral Law” when He said, “By the traditions of your elders you make void the Word of God.” (St Matthew 15).

    The English translation of the Talmud has been watered down so as to conceal from the Gentiles the “satanic verses” contained in the original Hebrew.

    The “Satanic Verses” of the Talmud can be classified into 3 categories:
    1) Jewish Supremacy.
    2) Hatred Towards The “Goys” (Gentiles).
    3) Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ, The Virgin Mary, & All Christians.

    1. SATANIC VERSES OF THE TALMUD’S “JEWISH SUPREMACY”

    * “If a ‘goy’ (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.” (Sanhedrin 58b)
    * “If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)
    * “If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
    * What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
    * “Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)
    * “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)
    * “Girls born of the ‘goyim’ are in a state of ‘niddah’ (menstrual uncleanness!) from birth.” (Abodah Zarah 36b)

    2. SATANIC VERSES OF THE TALMUD’S HATRED TOWARDS THE GENTILES

    * “The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)
    * “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)
    * “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)
    * “Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)
    * “When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)

    3. SATANIC VERSES OF THE TALMUD’S BLASPHEMIES AGAINST JESUS CHRIST, THE VIRGIN MARY, & ALL CHRISTIANS

    * “‘Yashu’ (derogatory for ‘Jesus’) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)
    [’Yashu’ is an acronym for the Jewish curse, ‘May his (Jesus) name be wiped out forevermore.’]
    * Yashu (Jesus) was sexually immoral and worshipped a brick.” (Sanhedrin 107b)
    * “Yashu (Jesus) was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness and refused to repent.” (Sotah 47a)
    * “Miriam the hairdresser had sex with many men.” (Shabbath 104b, Hebrew Edition only)
    * “She who was the descendant of princes and governors (the virgin Mary) played the harlot with carpenters.” (Sanhedrin 106a)
    * “Christians who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.” (Rosh Hashanah 17a)

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=156

    • Replies: @Sean McBride
  115. @geokat62

    Can’t these strains of supremacist thinking be uncovered in many cultural traditions — religious, ethnonationalist, ideological, etc.?

    Could it be that tribalist attitudes have been the core driver of human history in general and the source of all cultural conflicts and wars?

    Tribal insiders tend to dehumanize and demonize tribal outsiders in their quest for competitive advantages in the world. It’s a universal psychological stratagem.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  116. geokat62 says:
    @Sean McBride

    Can’t these strains of supremacist thinking be uncovered in many cultural traditions

    Of course they can. But, show me anything in Western literature that approaches anywhere near this level of supremacy.

    It’s a universal psychological stratagem.

    That’s precisely the thesis of Prof. Kevin MacDonald’s magnum opus, Culture of Critique.

    Problem is, through the poison of Cultural Marxism, Western societies have been subverted from within without even a gunshot being fired. It is only now that things have become painfully obvious that the Weat has been under attack for decades.

    Now, however, that the mesmerizing spell of “equality” is slowly beginning to wear off are some people beginning to realize what is at stake and that immediate action is necessary to remedy the situation.

  117. @propagandist hacker

    “…but can we please admit that the dissident Right is now effectively dead? vdare and numbersUSA and all other similar organizations, the alt-right etc., have all been completely ineffective…we have no power..”

    I understand the sense of frustration, as I’m sure many do, but, forming and building coalitions can take time. I’m not so sure I agree that these groups gave been as completely ineffective as it may seem. The ideal situation may not have materialized yet but that doesn’t mean it will not materialize.

    And, you do have power. The power to make choices as a free moral agent and that is arguably the greatest power to possess. If by power you mean political power, you need to form a bloc. Highly effective at gaining political power. Patience and perseverance are important. Take heart, there are many bright spots.

  118. @Art

    Aren’t almost all Jews political supremacists?

    80% are Democrats, and all Democrats are. And always have been.

    The flavor of the day may change, but the same hand holds the scoop.

  119. As I do with the utterances of everyone who takes one position on immigration for the goyim and another for Israel, I take every word of Ben Shapiro’s on everything at very sharp discount. Nonetheless, I do like to know what he is thinking only in so far as knowing the opinions of those who wish you ill is worth knowing.

  120. dfordoom says: • Website
    @propagandist hacker

    but can we please admit that the dissident Right is now effectively dead?

    Successful revolutions (whether peaceful or violent) are always top-down affairs. They happen when there’s a split in the elite class or when a rising elite displaces the existing elite. There’s no sign whatsoever of that happening. Grassroots revolts invariably fail – they lack leadership and resources and money and political skills. They are easily crushed.

    The only exceptions occur when an outside power intervenes. There’s no chance of that happening either.

    The dissident right has been very useful to the current power structure. Its existence, even though it’s been entirely ineffectual, has provided a marvelous excuse for implementing increasing totalitarianism.

    The other major problems with the dissident right are extraordinary naivete and a propensity for loony conspiracy theories which serve to discredit the less crazy dissidents.

  121. Someone called Shapiro a “walking participation trophy” Thats probably a good description. Typical spoiled rich brat. Typical right winger that blames the poor, the defenseless, and the powerless for all of societies ills.

    Not looking good for conservatives, Republicans, or right wingers. Still stuck in the past, Tulsi, Bernie and Gravel are talking about single payer health care, ending wars, cracking down on Big Pharma, making college accessible to everyone, student loan relief, ending the drug war, legalizing cannabis, raising wages, not stealing grannies social security and medicare to give to Israel, capping credit card interest rates or anti-usury, breaking up banks, facebook, amazon, etc, supporting unions, raising taxes on rich, taxing corporations that outsource jobs, decreasing military spending (fraud and theft)

    Whats the Republican agenda? Abortion? Like any working stiffs out in the real world are losing sleep over abortion? Thats appealing to a very small minority of cultists. While at the same time screaming about n!ggers and brown folk in general taking over and becoming a majority, muh white genocide, you idiots know who gets the majority of abortions right? Fear mongering about Muslims, Mexicans, anyone not rich and white. Bringing back the century old Red Scare, COMMUNISTS!! and RADICAL SOCIALISTS!! Yep, thats the ticket! Trickle down economics, free shit for the poor oppressed billionaires. Record MIC/Pentagon spending (fraud and theft) Still poking Russia and China. Trump is more concerned about his poll numbers in Israel than he is on American., a puppet of Israel and AIPAC, Trump worse than obama on illegal immigration, wants to increase H1B immigration, already done more harm to 2nd amendment than obama.

    Apparently Republicans take their own propaganda seriously, if Fox news said it it must be true! By the way, I voted for Trump, I knew the guy had a Zionist streak in him but geez Louise I never dreamed he could be this compromised, they must have something really bad on him. I thought he might be a little different than the establishment, WRONG, guy jumped right into bed with the perps of 9/11, neocons, the Saudis and Israelis, Guiliani, Bolton, Haspel, Pompeo. Trump is a joke. I hate most of the Democrats just as much as I hate Republicans, scum of the Earth. I honestly don’t have much hope at all for this country anymore, short of economic collapse, revolt, or Russia or China nuking DC, I think the writing is on the wall for America, the war machine, and the capitalist system. Fail!

    If there were an uprising/revolt, idiots would just be fighting the other slaves, antifas vs. the alt-right while Wall St keeps on raping both.Nice job CIA!

  122. @Charles Pewitt

    Ben Shapiro is an anti-White Bolshevik Jew

    Saying that over and over won’t make it true. You should research the Bolsheviks outside of your typical right wing media. They were anti-Zionist, considered Zionists terrorists and a danger to the world.

    Zionists like Shapiro are rabid capitalists and imperialists, very anti-communist. Go and read more. Don’t believe everything Jewish media tells you, including right wing Jewish media, thats who pushes these lies.

    Theres a reason Soviet Union backed the Arabs in the Arab-Israeli wars. Theres a reason why Zionists, Neocons, capitalists have set out to destroy every communist/socialist nation that ever existed.

    and its capitalists who push for mass immigration/cheap labor, thats the essence of good capitalism, increase profits by reducing costs, at all costs, your country, culture, sovereignty be damned. Imperialist wars and capitalist/neoliberal policies drive most of the immigration, to Europe and America.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Anon
    , @Ace
  123. pb says:
    @geokat62

    or even easier one

    (((Shapiro)))

  124. dfordoom says: • Website
    @redmudhooch

    Zionists like Shapiro are rabid capitalists and imperialists, very anti-communist.

    For the dissident right everything bad has to be the fault of the commies. That’s why it’s futile to hope for anything constructive from them.

    Dissident rightists are perfectly correct in believing that society has undergone disastrous changes over the past half-century. But they cannot or will not admit that those changes have been mostly driven by big business, not the commies. Their real enemy is capitalism not communism but they refuse to see it.

    and its capitalists who push for mass immigration/cheap labor, thats the essence of good capitalism, increase profits by reducing costs, at all costs, your country, culture, sovereignty be damned. Imperialist wars and capitalist/neoliberal policies drive most of the immigration, to Europe and America.

    Absolutely correct.

    But that would mean that any genuine constructive change, anything that might actually save our society, would almost certainly have to come from the Left. You’ll never get dissident rightists to accept that.

    • Replies: @Fuerchtegott
    , @OEMIKITLOB
  125. @Sean McBride

    if “white” culture collapses — by which we mainly mean Western culture, culture grounded in European civilization and values — Jewish culture and Zionism will fall with it.

    Maybe, maybe not. If white civilization falls, so too does the muscle enforcing moratoriums on WMDs and broad daylight acts of genocide in general.

    So while it’s possible that Israel’s fate is tied to that of it’s various white western vassal states, it’s far more likely, in my humble opinion anyway, that Israel is content with continuing to instigate the fall of Western Civilization because it will not only usher in the age of Greater Israel, but also release the burgeoning Jewish Empire from the burden of tiptoeing through the proverbial tulips when it comes to carrying out the remainder of their genocidal geopolitical ambitions the way it currently has to.

    If the dominoes fall just right, whatever power remains on the field after the collapse of the West may be left in such a crippled state that the Jews can simply obliterate them with the arsenal they are obviously building up in their current little terror state. I find this perspective to be consistent with the continued Israeli refusal to participate in any nuclear disarmament treaty or even allow the outside inspection of their military bases, even as they hypocritically demand not only the inspection, but (forcible, if necessary) disarmament of everyone else around them.

    I hear it often insinuated that the Israelis/Jews are stupid for thinking they are not sealing their own fate by seeking to subvert and destroy the West. But of all the things I think they absolutely are… sadistic… evil… I don’t think they are stupid. They are nothing if not methodical.

    I think it’s safe to say that they’re they’re stockpiling WMD’s, perhaps even ones the world has never seen, for the next phase of their plans.

  126. Anon[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @redmudhooch

    Saying that over and over won’t make it true. You should research the Bolsheviks outside of your typical right wing media. They were anti-Zionist, considered Zionists terrorists and a danger to the world.

    Zionists like Shapiro are rabid capitalists and imperialists, very anti-communist. Go and read more. Don’t believe everything Jewish media tells you, including right wing Jewish media, that’s who pushes these lies.

    Nothing sounds more ignorant than when an ignorant person attempts to sound knowledgeable.

    If not Jew or if a lazy Jew up to this point, you should research the Jewish religion outside of your Left Wing bubble.

    Go to the source texts or the writings of Orthodox Rabbis like Harry Waton in his book “A Program for the Jews and An Answer to all Anti-Semites; A Program for Humanity” where he dedicates an entire book to admitting that communism is Jewish and illustrating that fact with explanations of the Jewish religion.

    The Jewish religion is a slavers religion. Communism is a form of slavery that is dressed up to be voluntarily swallowed by the poor, stupid, and drug addled, all of whom are always the most vulnerable to accepting ideologies that are harmful to themselves and greater society. Judaism requires a world in which there are politically disempowered masses under a slaving leadership. Communism is one iteration of that system. It was invented by Jews, promoted by Jews, and it is of Judaism.

    Only a severe mental retard takes Jews and communists at their popular lip service. Deception is their first language. The Third International was and is an effort at Jewish religion mandated nation dissolution and World Conquest. It has the same exact goals as Judaism, it was written by Jews, its revolutions were led by Jews, and Jews are mostly responsible for its political survival in the West today. Class war is a Jewish concept meant to take the emphasis off of racial unity for the goyim that is the core of everyone’s only significant political power: including the Jews themselves. Deception is their first language.

    And this is a conversation that has been had thousands of times and has long ago been put to bed. Communism is Jewish and there is no serious debate of that fact.

    You cannot even articulate that you are aware of the difference between Stalin / Stalinism and Leninism in post WWII history. Or how that might, pray tell, account for the Neocon / Israel and Jewish USA cold war hostility between the USA / Israel and Russia / Arabs.

    You cannot break down lying genocidal Jew Shapiro’s political machinations, which are the same as all politically serious Jews: whether “Neocon” or “Liberal”. He’s the furthest thing from “anti-communist”. For that matter, I doubt that you could correctly articulate what communism actually is (what its operational procedure is toward the goals that it shares with Judaism). If I were to explain this to you, I’d have to get into both subjects and there is no room in this post nor are you especially worth that time.

    We don’t have time to educate someone here, further, who has the audacity to post when either they know literally almost nothing. Or are otherwise a deceitful Jew or minority who is wasting everyone’s time here with very old bullshit whose corrected context is found in many other places on this website.

    No one here takes Jews at their popular word: whether Neocon, communist, or any other false category. Instead, we look at how they operate and what they write to themselves. Your arguments rely on truth being present in their popular words. Give us all a large fucking break.

  127. @Fuerchtegott

    ho specializes in Russian and German authors, who only managed to learn no foreign language

    He quotes Solzhenitsyn…..

    And then he accuses other people of being anti-semites…….and all of the usual stuff..

    When Solzhenitsyn himself wrote about and made comments about ((Them))

    “We cannot state that all Jews are Bolsheviks. But without Jews, there would never have been Bolshevism. For a Jew, nothing is more insulting than the truth. The blood maddened Jewish terrorists have murdered sixty-six million in Russia from 1918 to 1957.”

    -Solzy

  128. Templar says:
    @Dave Bowman

    Andrew Neil was the editor of the Sunday Times back in the 1980s when they broke the Mordechai Vanunu news story about the Israeli nuclear weapons research facility at Demona in the Negev. Mossad of course subsequently kidnapped Mordechai Vanunu in Rome and he received a 20-year prison sentence
    The fact that Benny Shapiro has never heard of Andrew Neil speaks volumes about what a ludicrous pipsqueak he is.
    As you rightly say he is a dour Scottish Presbyterian with a habit of pushing the buttons of whoever he is interviewing.
    A couple of years ago he was interviewing the Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon (leader of the Scottish national party).
    In the course of the interview he laid out how heavily Scotland is subsidised by the London government via the Barnett formula.
    He then invited Nicola Sturgeon to thank the English taxpayers for their largesse.
    The subsequent meltdown was hilarious.
    For an American equivalent you would have to imagine a very prominent Jewish American commentator (Jon Stewart?) asking Benjamin Netanyahu for some gratitude for the vast subsidies Israel receives from the United States.

  129. @dfordoom

    Corporatism not Capitalism
    State Centrism not Communism

    You are a real little Helper, aren’t you?

  130. @dfordoom

    “But they cannot or will not admit that those changes have been mostly driven by big business, not the commies. Their real enemy is capitalism not communism but they refuse to see it.”

    You are confused. You are conflating crony-capitalism or State-capitalism with capitalism. State, or crony, capitalism is one or more groups making use of the coercive apparatus of a government (i.e. the state) to accumulate capital for themselves by expropriating the production of others through violence or force (e.g. taxes, both overt and covert, which would include the inflation of prices due to the devaluing of a currency).

    Capitalism proper, or free-market capitalism, is a network of free and voluntary exchanges in which producers work, produce and exchange their products for the products of others through prices voluntarily arrived at.

    So long as you misdiagnose the problem you cannot solve it. As a matter of fact, you only make it worse and that which you seek to solve is perpetuated to the delight of the political and donor classes who rule and benefit from ignorance and lack of understanding by those they rule over.

    Capitalism is not the enemy, the state is.

  131. @Hank Yobo

    “Not quite.”

    Well, I respectfully disagree. The person and work of Jesus Christ was a radical departure from the Hebrew notion of who and what their Savior was to be; they missed Him. Rejected Him, actually. For now, at least. I submit that for all intents and purposes this qualifies as “divorce” as the OP was alluding to, with a “remarriage” in the future.

    “The early Church benefitted from its association with Judaism”

    True, I agree with this but perhaps for a different reason than the statement implies. I’m not certain it was due to Religio licata. I believe the ruling Jews of the day simply didn’t want the Christians “rocking the boat” and bringing any hardship down on them by the Roman authorities. All things considered they had it ok in their arrangement with the Roman authorities so this makes sense and seems the most logical reason. Not necessarily Religio licata or illicata.

  132. anon[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    should put Tubman on the 20 shekel bill in Israel and see how enthusiastic Ben is about that

    • LOL: geokat62
  133. yeah, corporatism, not communism is what pushed the immigration invasion and multiculturalism

  134. @propagandist hacker

    The dissident left feels the same way. I’ll vote for yours if you vote for mine.

  135. Ace says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Heritage does not = conservative oracle or Republican Shangri-La, especially not today.

    If it pushed federal health care, it was advocating something wildly unconstitutional. Conservative, my foot. I read the Heritage “plan” once and it seemed far less ambitious than what came out of the chute later.

    Romneycare was constitutional as a program that could be established at the state level. IIRC, it only applied to people of certain “needs” and not all state citizens were required to participate. That was not the approach taken by Obongocare.

    So, no, Obongocare was not a Republican plan. Republicans opposed to a man, even the usual traitors.

  136. Ace says:
    @redmudhooch

    David Gelbaum bribed the Sierra Club to drop its opposition to immigration with a payment of over $100M.

    Was Gelbaum acting to further a capitalist agenda or a Jewish one?

  137. G says:
    @CBTerry

    We wouldn’t suggest that ethnic tribalism and nepotism could buy you degrees and honors. It never happened after all. Not with Jared Kushner the greatest genius who ever lived and doesn’t have a single book in his place.

  138. hamtok says:
    @Sean McBride

    Perhaps Israeli activism and Zionist activism could be added to that excellent list.

  139. hamtok says:
    @Anon

    “Shapiro is a repackaged Neocon for millenials.

    He’s exactly the same, running his game from the same “the only good nationalism is Jewish nationalism, goy” seventy year old playbook. He is unoriginal in the extreme. ”

    Well said. He is their boy, bought and paid for.

  140. hamtok says:
    @Vianney

    members of the tribe are not often good-looking or attractive physical (or moral) specimens.

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