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Newsweek recently sounded the alarm in a long-form piece on what they view as a troubling new trend:

Tennessee, 1955
Tennessee, 1955

Sixty years after Brown vs. Board, forty years after the end of busing, it appears that all the social engineering in the world can’t make our multicultural dreams come true:

Economist Tyler Cowen, who is a conservative, calls white parents’ visceral fear of a mostly black school “discouraging.” … [Journalist] Hannah-Jones agrees. “You’re gonna have to force and cajole people” into integration, she says, which is why the court orders of the 1960s and ’70s proved effective. “We’re not going to do this voluntarily.”

Boston busing protest, 1970s
Boston busing protest, 1970s

By 1988, the high point of school integration in the U.S., nearly half of all black children attended a majority-white school. … Since then, however, the gains of Brown v. Board have been almost entirely reversed. Water will find its level. Yet the narrative remains that somehow, after enough ‘forcing and cajoling,’ a diverse and happy future awaits us all–even ethnic groups as radically different as Northwest Euros and Sub-Saharan Africans.

Train station, Pretoria, South Africa
Train station, Pretoria, South Africa

We at TWCS, on the contrary, posit that:

  • Any time a large flux of Afros has arrived among ethnic NW Euros (up to and including the present), the latter have reacted sharply by separating themselves, and
  • Their reasons have been not senseless but on the whole fairly defensible.

The two biggest laboratories for this social experiment, of course, have been South Africa and the United States. We have chosen to examine the latter.

Johannesburg 1990, Detroit 1973
Johannesburg 1990, Detroit 1973

Is Hannah-Jones right? Will enough ‘forcing and cajoling’ bring about the multicultural blessings we’ve long been waiting for? Or, on the contrary, have we believed so many myths about segregation that we’ve painted ourselves into a policy corner?

I. Myth #1: The South Always Had Jim Crow • 2,200 Words
Family of “freedmen”, Richmond, VA, 1865
Family of “freedmen”, Richmond, VA, 1865

One common misconception is that Southerners started passing Jim Crow laws the moment the last Union troops left town. They did not. In fact the bulk of them came decades later, near the turn of the century. Why so late?

1) Pre-Civil War to Great Migration: Flexibility

In 1955, historian C. Vann Woodward wrote:

The policies of proscription, segregation, and disfranchisement are often described as the immutable ‘folkways’ of the South … The effort to justify them as a consequence of Reconstruction and a necessity of the times is embarrassed by the fact that they did not originate in those times.

More than a decade was to pass after Redemption [1877] before the first Jim Crow law was to appear upon the law books of a Southern state, and more than two decades before the older states of the seaboard were to adopt such laws. (1)

The pre-Jim Crow South was, in fact, much less rigid than we may imagine.

Note wide variance between upper and lower South
Note wide variance between upper and lower South

a) Employment

From Wilmoth Carter’s study on Raleigh, North Carolina:

Though circumscribed in movements and activities, in almost all cities of the Ante-bellum South free Negroes comprised the artisan class of workers. They, along with a few selected slaves on plantations, were the barbers, blacksmiths, butchers, carpenters, shoemakers, mechanics, tailors and textile workers, and keepers of restaurants, cafes and hotels.

Negro blacksmith, Newport News, VA, 1936
Negro blacksmith, Newport News, VA, 1936

In Raleigh:

In the 1875-76 period all “eating houses” and huckster [re-seller] stalls were operated by Negroes, while the number of Negro blacksmiths exceeded the number of white blacksmiths, with an equal number of Negroes and whites as harness makers and saddlers. (2)

b) Social space

Streetcars in Atlanta, ca. 1900
Streetcars in Atlanta, ca. 1900

From Charles E. Wynes’ work on Virginia:

‘The most distinguishing factor in the complexity of social relations between the races was that of inconsistency. From 1870 to 1900, there was no generally accepted code of racial mores.’ … Until 1900, when a law requiring the separation of the races on [Virginia] railroad cars was adopted by a majority of one vote, ‘the Negro sat where he pleased and among the white passengers on perhaps a majority of the state’s railroads.’ (1)

In 1879 British MP Sir George Campbell visited the U.S. South, amazed that

‘The humblest black rides with the proudest white on terms of perfect equality, and without the smallest symptom of malice or dislike on either side. I was, I confess, surprised to see how completely this is the case; even an English Radical is a little taken aback at first.’ (1)

Mixed music group, Atlanta, 1899
Mixed music group, Atlanta, 1899

Vernon Wharton in his study on Mississippi [1865-1890]:

For some years ‘most of the saloons served whites and Negroes at the same bar. Many of the restaurants, using separate tables, served both races in the same room. . . . Throughout the state common cemeteries, usually in separate portions, held the graves of both whites and Negroes.’

Wharton points out, however, that as early as 1890 segregation had closed in and the Negroes were by that date excluded from saloons, restaurants, parks, public halls, and white cemeteries. (1)

Mardi Gras parade, New Orleans, 1906
Mardi Gras parade, New Orleans, 1906

From a travelogue on Louisiana:

At the International Exposition in New Orleans in 1885 Charles Dudley Warner watched with some astonishment as ‘white and colored people mingled freely, talking and looking at what was of common interest . . . On “Louisiana Day” in the Exposition,’ he reported, ‘the colored citizens took their full share of the parade and the honors. Their societies marched with the others, and the races mingled in the grounds in unconscious equality of privileges.’ (1)

Market, Charleston, SC, 19th century
Market, Charleston, SC, 19th century

From an interview in the 1950s with an elderly black resident of Raleigh, N. Carolina:

Mandy Dunstan [black] used to have about the biggest restaurant. … Colored ate there too but her biggest trade was white. All ate together. I don’t remember any such thing as segregation in those places then and I’ve been here for 91 years, was born right on this same land January 10, 1867. (2)

A second interviewee:

I was born in 1870 right there at 711 East St. … I began traveling different places and working in 1893. There was no Jim Crow on the train then, you could sit anywhere, no special cars for colored . . . There wasn’t any such thing as a separate colored section in the market.

Not segregated yet: Steamboats in Vicksburg, MS, 1906
Not segregated yet: Steamboats in Vicksburg, MS, 1906


In the earlier days there were no signs anywhere saying ‘for colored.’ You could trade anywhere. … Whites and Negroes lived in the same neighborhoods and in the same blocks all mixed up together. If you saw a place you wanted you just went on and bought it. (2)

c) Hope for a new South
There was in fact such a relaxed attitude in many places in the post-Civil War years that some thought a new era of integration in the South was dawning.

T. McCants Stewart, a black NYC journalist, in 1885 took a train trip to his native South Carolina and then down to Florida. What he saw gives us an idea of how unlikely it could have seemed then that Jim Crow would soon descend like a hammer:

Stewart and his brazen itinerary
Stewart and his brazen itinerary

‘On leaving Washington, D.C.,’ he reported to his paper, ‘I put a chip on my shoulder, and inwardly dared any man to knock it off.’ He found a seat in a car which became so crowded that several white passengers had to sit on their baggage. ‘I fairly foamed at the mouth,’ he wrote, ‘imagining that the conductor would order me into a seat occupied by a colored lady so as to make room for a white passenger.’ Nothing of the sort happened, however.

Pullman car, 19th century
Pullman car, 19th century

At a stop twenty-one miles below Petersburg [VA] he entered a station dining room, ‘bold as a lion,’ he wrote, took a seat at a table with white people, and was courteously served. ‘The whites at the table appeared not to note my presence,’ he reported. ‘Thus far I had found travelling more pleasant . . . than in some parts of New England.’

… From Columbia, South Carolina, he wrote: ‘I feel about as safe here as in Providence, R.I. I can ride in first-class cars on the railroads and in the streets. I can go into saloons and get refreshments even as in New York. I can stop in and drink a glass of soda and be more politely waited upon than in some parts of New England.’ (1)

Soda counter, Yale, Oklahoma, 1910
Soda counter, Yale, Oklahoma, 1910

Stewart was bursting with optimism and pride at this progress on race relations:

‘Indeed,’ wrote Stewart, ‘the Palmetto State leads the South in some things. May she go on advancing in liberal practices and prospering throughout her borders, … leading our blessed section [region] on and on into the way of liberty, justice, equality, truth, and righteousness.’ (1)

Atlanta University students, 1899
Atlanta University students, 1899

Woodward, while admitting the South was hardly a racial utopia, asserts that:

The era of stiff conformity and fanatical rigidity that was to come had not yet closed in and shut off all contact between the races, … There were still real choices to be made, and alternatives [to Jim Crow] were still available. (1)

Thus we see that the freedoms of Blacks in the post-bellum South varied widely. So when and why did things began to tighten?

2) Rural Exodus: the Laws Start

Some historians date the Great Migration from around WWI, but others, including James Gregory at the U. of North Carolina, claim it can really be dated back to the turn of the century. It involved southern rural Blacks moving not just north, but also into the cities of the South.

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a) What might have been

To show just what a different path things might have taken, Woodward quotes the venerable Charleston News and Courier from 1898. A streetcar segregation law was being floated–and the editorialist found it laughable:

‘As we have got on fairly well for a third of a century, including a long period of reconstruction, without such a measure [streetcar segregation],’ wrote the editor, ‘we can probably get on as well hereafter without it, and certainly so extreme a measure should not be adopted and enforced without added and urgent cause.

Charleston streetcar, ca. 1900
Charleston streetcar, ca. 1900

Finding the very idea mock-worthy, he launches into a reductio ad absurdum:

‘If there must be Jim Crow cars on the railroads, there should be Jim Crow cars on the street railways. Also on all passenger boats. . . . If there are to be Jim Crow cars, moreover, there should be Jim Crow waiting saloons at all stations, and Jim Crow eating houses. . . . There should be Jim Crow sections of the jury box, and a separate Jim Crow dock and witness stand in every court— and a Jim Crow Bible for colored witnesses to kiss. … ’

1898: Too absurd to be true…  1906: Law of the land
1898: Too absurd to be true… 1906: Law of the land

As late as 1898, then, a major southern paper finds such a scenario comically unthinkable–but it was in fact a prophecy. (Right down to the Jim Crow Bible).

The very same newspaper, in 1906:

‘The “problem” is worse now than it was ten years ago, … Separation of the races is the only radical solution of the negro problem in this country . . . The Negroes were brought here by compulsion; they should be induced to leave here [the U.S.] by persuasion.’ (1)

What could have happened in just eight short years to cause this about-face? A deadly race riot in Atlanta the week before was no doubt on the writer’s mind, but still, to go from lampooning Jim Crow laws in 1898 to calling for mass repatriation to Africa in 1906 is an astonishing change of heart.

b) Legislation begins

Legislatively speaking, then, the South’s iron curtain began to come down during the so-called ‘Progressive Age.’ Uncoincidentally, perhaps, this is when Afros started arriving in the cities en masse.

Data source

b1) Transport

The first spaces to mandate apartheid were public transport.

  • Railroad segregation first enacted:
  • Streetcar segregation first enacted:
  • Voting disenfranchisement—poll tax, literacy test, etc.—was passed between 1889 (Florida) and 1910 (Oklahoma).

During these years the older seaboard states of the South also extended the segregation laws to steamboats. (1)

Steamboat, Silver Springs, Florida, ca 1900
Steamboat, Silver Springs, Florida, ca 1900

Thus they all fell like dominoes: railways in the 1890s and streetcars in the 1900s, backed by the Supreme Court’s 1896 decision Plessy vs. Ferguson.

b2) Housing

Attempts to segregate housing came later, and had a harder time before the courts. The first city to try was Baltimore, but not until 1910.

Baltimore red-lining map, 1937
Baltimore red-lining map, 1937

The Hoover report explains the different types of law:

  • The Baltimore type:applied only to all-white and all-Negro blocks and did not undertake to legislate for blocks upon which both white people and Negroes lived.
  • The Virginia State type: Under this statute any city or town so desiring might divide its territory into “segregation districts“; designate which districts are to be for white people and which for Negroes.
  • The Richmond type: Undertook to legislate for the whole city, declaring a block white whereon a majority of the residents were white, and colored whereon a majority of the people were colored. (3)
Negro quarter, Atlanta, 1936
Negro quarter, Atlanta, 1936


And like dominoes, similar ordinances were quickly voted in towns in N. Carolina (1912), Kentucky, Alabama, Georgia, and Virginia (1913), and Missouri, Texas, and Oklahoma (1916). But:

Finally, the Louisville [housing segregation] case reached the Supreme Court of the United States on November 5, 1917, and after two hearings it wasunanimously declared unconstitutional. (3)

Upheld by the courts for public areas; struck down for housing. But what is notable is when most were passed: A generation after Reconstruction.

This delayed reaction did not go unnoticed at the time. Woodward:

Wide agreement prevailed in the early years of the [20th] century that there was less sympathy, tolerance, and understanding between the races than there had been during the Reconstruction period, … Professor John Spencer Bassett of Trinity College wrote in 1903 that ‘there is today more hatred of whites for blacks and blacks for whites than ever before.

John Temple Graves of Georgia said that ‘The races are wider apart, more antagonistic than in 1865.’ And the Negro novelist Charles W. Chestnutt said in 1903 that ‘the rights of the Negroes are at a lower ebb than at any time during the thirty-five years of their freedom, and the race prejudice more intense and uncompromising.’ (1)

How had this come to pass? Remember black journalist T. McCants Stewart, who on an 1885 trip through the South was thrilled at the service he received. He had afterwards felt confident enough to say:

‘Things seem (remember I write seem) to move along as smoothly [in the South] as in New York or Boston . . . If you should ask me, “watchman, tell us of the night” . . . I would say, “The morning light is breaking.” ‘(1)

Such optimism turned out to be sorely unfounded. Not twenty years later, the iron curtain of apartheid in the South had come down for good.

Leland, Mississippi
Leland, Mississippi

We have thus seen that in the South, the timing of Jim Crow laws matched up not with the end of Reconstruction as often thought, but with the first flooding of Blacks into the cities.

Let us now turn to the North.

II. Myth #2: The North Was a Haven for Blacks • 3,100 Words
Fair housing march, Chicago, 1968
Fair housing march, Chicago, 1968

Here a different sort of myth prevails: Unlike brutal Southerners, so the thinking goes, Northerners had always opened their arms to oppressed Afros, welcoming them in like brothers.

This happy story northern Whites tell themselves is far from the truth. ‘Free’ though he may have been, the northern Black has always hoed a hard row.

The Great Migration, however, brought masses of them cheek-by-jowl with urban Whites for the first time. And just as in the South, there came a sudden clampdown on their movements.

1) Colonial times to 1865: A mixed bag

So how was life for free Blacks in the North before the 20th century? Not quite so very ‘free.’

Colonial Philadelphia
Colonial Philadelphia

a) Colonial times

Historian Douglas Harper:

In colonial times, Northern freemen, like slaves, were required to carry passes when traveling in some places, and they were forbidden to own property in others. Although taxed in New England, they could not vote there in early colonial times, though they could in the plantation colonies. …

Negro in stocks
Negro in stocks

Under Pennsylvania colony’s 1726 ‘Act for the better Regulation of Negroes,’free negroes who married whites were to be sold into slavery for life; for mere fornication or adultery involving blacks and whites, the penalty for the black person was to be sold as a servant for seven years. (4)

b) Early statehood

Northerners often vaunt their early abolition of slavery, but rarely mention what came next. Harper:

Both Indiana (1816) and Illinois (1818) abolished slavery by their constitutions. And both followed the Ohio policy of trying to prevent black immigration by passing laws requiring blacks who moved into the state to… post bond [up to $1000] to guarantee their good behavior.

The territories of Michigan, Iowa, and Oregon all passed similar laws in the early 1800s.

The frontier states discouraged Blacks from settling
The frontier states discouraged Blacks from settling

Oregon forbid blacks to hold real estate, make contracts, or bring lawsuits. Illinois, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, and California prohibited them from testifying in cases where a white man was a party. (4)

Alexis de Tocqueville, who visited the country in 1831, said:

So the Negro [in the North] is free, but he cannot share the rights, pleasures, labors, griefs, or even the tomb of him whose equal he has been declared; there is nowhere where he can meet him, neither in life nor in death. In the South, … people are prepared to mix with them to some extent; legislation is more harsh, but customs are more tolerant and gentle.

W.E.B. DuBois, from a long line of free Massachusetts Blacks
W.E.B. DuBois, from a long line of free Massachusetts Blacks

Just before the Civil War, historian Leon F. Litwack describes the situation in the North:

‘In virtually every phase of existence,’ he writes, ‘[in 1860] Negroes found themselves systematically separated from whites. They were either excluded from railway cars, omnibuses, stagecoaches, and steamboats or assigned to special sections; they sat, when permitted, in secluded and remote corners of theaters and lecture halls; they could not enter most hotels, restaurants, and resorts, except as servants; they prayed in “Negro pews.”

…Moreover, they were often educated in segregated schools, punished in segregated prisons, nursed in segregated hospitals, and buried in segregated cemeteries.’ (1)

2) The ‘good old days’: Late 1800s

Despite all of this, the second half of the 19th century (before the southern exodus) was often looked back at with fondness by northern Blacks, as it was the time before the de facto segregation hammer came down hardest.

a) Housing

Negro quarter in Cincinnati, 1880
Negro quarter in Cincinnati, 1880

From an interview with an elderly Afro-American in Mary Louise Mark’s 1928 ‘Negroes in Columbus’ (Ohio):

There was no distinct negro community in the city when the old negro resident was a boy [Civil War era]. … A very friendly feeling between the races seems to have prevailed throughout the city …

This good feeling existed until between 1886 and 1890 when a distinct change in attitude unfavorable to the negro began to be noticed. This change was spoken of by the old colored resident as being part of a general change in attitude toward the negro throughout the north.

Cleveland park, ca. 1911
Cleveland park, ca. 1911

… Whatever the cause, clashes began to occur between the races, and itbecame increasingly difficult for colored people to secure homesin Columbus. (5)

Urban League founder George E. Haynes, in the 1920s:

Anyone would have been considered an alarmist twenty years agohad he predicted that public opinion would allow 58 Negro homes in Chicago to be bombed with impunity as increasing numbers forced Negro residents to spread beyond the areas where they had formerly lived.’ (6)

Chicago’s Hyde Park fought to stay white
Chicago’s Hyde Park fought to stay white


From an interview with a black Chicagoan born around the Civil War:

‘A good many years ago colored people lived in good homes and the Irish lived in shanties. They used to call them “flannel mouth,” “mick,” and “shanty Irish.”‘ (7)

b) Employment


Northern Blacks started to feel a tightening on employment at this time. From the Urban League’s 1926 study ‘The Negro in Minneapolis’:

[After Emancipation] It was not the opportunity for work that brought the early Negro settlers to Minnesota, … It was the freer atmosphere of the state that attracted them. However, the employment opportunities were not as much restricted then as now [the 1920s]. … During those early days all of the barbering in the Twin Cities was done by Negroes. There were also a few Negroes engaged in banking.

Afros often had a monopoly on barbering (Mattoon, IL, 1920)
Afros often had a monopoly on barbering (Mattoon, IL, 1920)

[In 1893], the Negroes in Minneapolis had made considerable progress. John L. Neal, who came in 1877, had risen to be chief bookkeeper for the Buckeye Publishing Company; … Geo Wilson, who came in 1883, was employed as chief druggist by Webster and Churchill, the largest pharmaceutical chemists in Minneapolis. (8)

c) Social space

Louise Kennedy:

In Dayton, Ohio, ‘the colored people before the migration could go unquestioned into any place of amusement and be served to any usual public accommodation. But when five Negroes came instead of one, the erstwhile liberal-minded people began to make the natural mistake of trying to get rid of a problem instead of facing and solving it.’ (6)

d) Black nostalgia

Old-stock northern Afros did not always appreciate this influx. In Philadelphia:

Philadelphia ‘had long possessed a relatively small population of Negroes of culture, education and some financial means. They had always enjoyed the same social and educational facilities as the whites and courteous treatment from them. But, with the increase in population by a group of generally uneducated and untrained persons, these privileges were withdrawn. . . . The old colored citizens of Philadelphia resented this, placed the blame at the migrant’s door and stood aloof from him.’ (6)

Affluent black Americans, ca. 1900
Affluent black Americans, ca. 1900

In Detroit:

Investigators of the situation in Detroit reported that the “old [black] Detroiters” held the migrants responsible for their altered status in that city, for the whites had tended to increase the discriminations against all Negroes since the influx of southern colored people. (6)

In Columbus:

These recent migrants are said to be principally from Georgia and Alabama and are reported to be a lazy, shiftless sort. A negro boy who has lived in the village for fifteen years said that he wished someone would stop the negroes from coming up from the south and make those go back who have recently come. (5)

Newport, RI Women’s League board, ca. 1900
Newport, RI Women’s League board, ca. 1900

In Branford, Connecticut:

Even the old and respected Negro resident has found himself lumped with the “rabble” that came in around the time of World War I. (9)

What did all this mean, practically speaking, for Blacks in the North?

3) Post-Migration: A racial tightening

Thus, while race relations had always been spotty in the North, certain freedoms were enjoyed– but the goodwill of even the most progressive Whites was battered by the wave of southern Blacks who started to flood in:

Johnson concludes that “With few exceptions, the increased proportion of Negroes in the total population of cities of the North tends to increase adverse sentiment,” and Woofter likewise states “In areas gaining by migration, prejudice seems, at least temporarily, to assume its most aggravated form.” (6)

’A Negro Family Just Arrived in Chicago From the Rural South’
’A Negro Family Just Arrived in Chicago From the Rural South’

Both the Chicago Commission and the Detroit Bureau of Research found that in each city the attitude of whites had changed toward the entire Negro group, both former inhabitants and newcomers, as a result of the growth of Negro population during the migration. (6)

In what ways was this sudden change visible?

a) Work segregation

Even in such liberal-minded places as Minnesota and Connecticut, the influx led to ever more strict workplace separation. From 1920s Minneapolis:

One hundred and forty-five (145) employers [out of 238], when asked if they would employ colored workers were they to apply, replied that they would not employ them. … Here is skilled labor, and if not skilled, potentially skilled and intelligent labor begging employment. Yet a number of employers who were investigated felt the Negro to be mentally unadaptable to work requiring skill. (8)

Chicago stockyard workers
Chicago stockyard workers

In 1950s Branford, Connecticut (near New Haven):

The remaining businesses in town do not hire Negroes, even in the usual menial capacities. These include not only bars and taverns, and stores such as furniture, clothing, department, hardware, electric, and five-and-ten cent, but also the professional offices of law, medicine, and dentistry. “Customer reaction” is the usual reason given for these discriminatory practices. … Almost without exception, no white-collar jobs are open to Negroes. (9)

Striking for better jobs, Chicago
Striking for better jobs, Chicago

Chicago, 1920:

Several important industries in Chicago have not yet employed Negroes. The traction [subway] companies (both elevated and surface) do not employ them as conductors, motormen, guards, or ticket agents. The large State Street department stores have no Negro clerks, and taxicab companies do not employ colored drivers. (7)

Philadelphia, 1899:

“F” is a telegraph line man, who formerly worked in Richmond, Va. When he applied here he was told that Negroes were not employed. … “E” was light in complexion and got a job as driver ; he “kept his cap on,” but when they found he was colored they discharged him. … “D” is a dressmaker and milliner, and does bead work. “Your work is very good,” they say to her, ” but if we hired you all of our ladies would leave.” (11)

b) School segregation

Segregation, official and unofficial
Segregation, official and unofficial

Though officially outlawed in much of the North, separate schools did in fact grow over these years. Louise Kennedy in 1930:

There are also evidences that in some northern cities no attitude of discrimination was apparent as long as there were only a few colored children, but when large numbers arrived, the tendency toward forced segregation became more noticeable. (6)

Negro schoolroom, Washington D.C.
Negro schoolroom, Washington D.C.

There are 42 separate public schools for Negroes in Pennsylvania. This separation is frankly carried out in some quarters and subtly in others. … In southern New Jersey segregation is carried to the point of dividing a building so that white and Negro children are completely separated… and a heavy wire screen dividing the playground. . . . The situation in New Jersey is by no means atypical. (6)

c) Social segregation

As far as separation in social spaces, a black man in 1950s Connecticut put it this way:

‘Down South they tell you where they want you and don’t want you. Here they all act nice, and they discriminate against you quietly and politely, like serving other people ahead of you.’

Sit-in at lunch counter
Sit-in at lunch counter

The White’s perspective:

One bartender spoke frankly when he said, “There are lots of ways you can get around them: put a head on their beer, serve them in a different glass to show you don’t want them around, break the glass when they’re finished.” Or they may be told before being served that they have had enough to drink. (9)

Also in Branford, Connecticut:

Apple Valley Country Club is the most exclusive social group in town, and admittance of Negroes is out of the question. It is even difficult for Italians and most Jews to get in. … As the member [of one women’s club] put it, “No Negro could get in even if Hell froze over“. (9)

Oregon diner, 1943
Oregon diner, 1943

In a 1919 interview, the manager of a large cafeteria chain in Chicago admits:

‘Under the law, we can’t refuse to let [Blacks] eat, but we can charge them any price we like. The first time we charge them enough to keep them from coming back. Then if they persist and come again, as soon as they go down the line, I see to it that something is put in their food which makes it taste bad — salt or Epsom salts. They never come back after that.’ After a pause he added, ‘You know we are within the law. We can’t have them coming here — it would ruin our trade.’ (7)

Cinema, South Side of Chicago, 1940s
Cinema, South Side of Chicago, 1940s


In a [1928] study which was made of recreational facilities in northern cities it was found that ‘in the 40 northern cities (studied) . . . there is some form of segregation practiced in connection with the Negro and public recreation in at least two-thirds of their number.’ (6)

d) Housing segregation
Housing segregation laws in the South, we have seen, were struck down by the courts. So Northerners used different tactics.

d1) By private contract

From the 1932 Hoover Report:

The practice of entering into covenants to exclude Negroes from certain areas accomplishes [segregation] in areas of the North. … These exclusion methods have been reinforced by violence in Chicago, Detroit, White Plains, New York, Washington, and Philadelphia. (3)

Segregation by other means
Segregation by other means

A ‘covenant’ was simply a private written agreement that you wouldn’t sell your house to a black person for __ number of years (could be 50, 100, etc.).

The first challenge of the covenants came in 1923 … The court ruled in 1924 that the covenant was valid and did not invade the constitutional rights of Negroes, inasmuch as Negroes had the right to enter into agreements to keep white persons out of Negro neighborhoods.

The U.S. Supreme Court, declaring that it had no jurisdiction, refused to review the two cases brought to it… Thus, it seems that what is unconstitutional and bad policy for a state or municipality is possible and legal by private agreement. (3)

Sign in public housing complex, Detroit, 1942
Sign in public housing complex, Detroit, 1942

d2) By Violence and Intimidation

Also from the Hoover Report:

Where laws and private contracts have failed [in the North], mobs have attempted to maintain the racial integrity of neighborhoods. In Chicago, following the protests and agitation of the Hyde Park Property Owners’ Association, the homes of 58 Negro families were bombed within a period of less than four years.

Damage from Chicago race riot, 1919
Damage from Chicago race riot, 1919

… In Cleveland Heights OH in 1924 handbills were distributed carrying this message: “Be Sure to Read This. Certain niggers … are now trying to erect a house at 11114 Wade Park Avenue to Blackmail us. … Appoint your committees to oppose and eradicate this group of Black Gold Diggers. Let them know we can duplicate [the recent] riots in Tulsa, St. Louis, Chicago, and Baltimore.” (3)

Not just in the Midwest but in the East:

In White Plains, New York, a cross was burned on the lawn and an attempt made to wreck the home of a Negro woman. There have been … clashes in practically every state experiencing a Negro population increase, from Virginia to California. … The home of a Negro insurance auditor in Denver was demolished in 1926. Fifty masked men attempted to frighten a Negro woman from her home in Union, New Jersey, by throwing crude bombs and burning a fiery cross. (3)

’Running the Negro out of Tulsa, June 1921′
’Running the Negro out of Tulsa, June 1921′

d3) By White Flight

Despite this strong resistance on the part of northern Whites, Blacks were largely successful in ‘invading’ their neighborhoods and driving them out.

From ‘The Housing of Negroes in Washington, D.C.’ (1929):

The process begins usually with a Negro family moving into a house in “the very middle” of the block. The natural sequence is general alarm and the immediate appearance of signs “For Sale” on the adjoining houses on both sides. And in a very short time Negroes become the immediate neighbors of the original “invader.”

’An entire block ruined by negro invasion…Save your home!’
’An entire block ruined by negro invasion…Save your home!’

The same process is repeated on both sides of these two purchasers, and, with the rapid multiplication of the “For Sale” notices, it is only a matter of a few months before one may see scores of colored children roller skating on the sidewalks or playing contentedly on the lawns, symbolizing the fact that the area which once belonged exclusively to white people has become a Negro neighborhood. (10)

Columbus, OH, 1928 :

The whites bitterly resisted the encroachment of the negroes at first. … This effort is said to have been overcome by strategy. The negroes bought homes on the new streets through white real estate dealers who kept the color of the buyer a secret until the transaction was completed.

… One negro who has lived in the neighborhood since 1899 said: “It was fun to see the white people run after a negro family moved onto the street.” (5)

The author of the Washington, D.C. report, Howard University professor W.H. Jones, makes some startling admissions. For example:

Most of the communities which Negroes have invaded have been more desirable than those from which they expanded, and, in many instances , after having deteriorated these invaded communities, they have pushed on to new neighborhoods to repeat the same process. (10)

Chicago slum, 1954
Chicago slum, 1954

He thus admits that Afros ‘deteriorate’ the communities they ‘invade.’ But it’s not so bad, because

White people can move from such communities with much less injury to themselves—even though they suffer some temporary disadvantages —than Negroes can remain in the congested unwholesome environments which have been assigned to them.

Washington, D.C., negro section, 1941
Washington, D.C., negro section, 1941

Were they ‘assigned’ unwholesome communities, or did they ‘deteriorate’ them on their own? He seems unsure. One final admission:

In general, it is not culturally advantageous for Negroes to move onto virgin soil. Rather, they must appropriate areas of the city which have already been developed. For when the white man abandons these communities, he leaves behind remnants of his culture—his homes, his churches, schools, parks, playgrounds, and apartment buildings. (10)

In both the South and the North, then, we see a relatively more relaxed attitude when urban Blacks were few in number, which became a strong desire for separation as their ranks grew.

But all of this was a century ago. Surely we have left such attitudes in the past, where they belong?

III. Myth #3: Segregation Is a Thing of the Past • 1,800 Words

As all American schoolchildren know, after WWII the Civil Rights movement picked up, leading to the Supreme Court forcing school integration in 1954 (Brown vs Board of Education of Topeka) and an official end to Jim Crow laws in 1964 (Civil Rights Act). ‘Separate but equal’ was no longer allowed.

Or was it?

Eric Fisher’s 2010 census maps
Eric Fisher’s 2010 census maps

1) Getting around the law

One of the biggest current myths about segregation in the U.S. is that it’s a thing of the past. We at TWCS argue that this is merely a polite fiction.

Despite fifty years of civil rights laws and twenty years of hard-core diversitopia boosterism, there is something about ethnic Sub-Saharan Africans that still pushes ethnic Euros to want to live and go to school as far from them as possible.

But housing segregation is illegal– so how do they do it?

Tim Wise: White Like… My neighborhood
Tim Wise: White Like… My neighborhood

a) Bidding up housing

The first way modern Whites are pushing segregation is by pricing undesirable ethnicities out of their neighborhoods.

Elizabeth Warren (via Steve Sailer) explains in The Two Income Trap:

Even as millions of mothers marched into the workforce, savings declined, and not, as we will show, because families were frittering away their paychecks on toys for themselves or their children. Instead, families were swept up in a bidding war, competing furiously with one another for their most important possession: a house in a decent school district…

Bad schools impose indirect—but huge—costs on millions of middle-class families. In their desperate rush to save their children from failing schools, families are literally spending themselves into bankruptcy.

Elizabeth Warren’s hometown
Elizabeth Warren’s hometown

Sailer fills in the blanks:

Overwhelmingly, though, Americans use the term “bad schools” to mean—“bad students.” That’s the single most important key to the “two-income trap.” Parents spend huge amounts of money to keep their children away from dim and dangerous fellow students.

NYC Whites, some of the most liberal in the country, are fighting hard for segregation:

To the city, the solution for the overcrowding at [white] P.S. 8 seemed obvious:move those two neighborhoods from [white] P.S. 8’s zone and into that of [black] P.S. 307, which is nearby and has room to spare.

The proposal, however, has drawn intense opposition … For all its diversity, New York City, by some measures, has one of the most segregated school systems in the country.

These Brooklyn Heights parents did not spend millions on condos in order to send their kids to school in the projects.

A tale of two Brooklyns
A tale of two Brooklyns

b) Private schools

Another way Whites segregate today is by taking advantage of private schools, which ‘dim and dangerous’ students can’t afford. This seems to be the preferred tactic of the deep South, where the 1954 desegregation order was bitterly resisted:

This map shows the gap between the percentage of all school-aged children who are white vs. the percentage of private-school students who are white. The biggest gap is in Mississippi, where in 2012, white students comprised 51 percent of all school-aged students but 87 percent of private-school students — a gap of 36 percentage points. The average national gap that year was about 15 percentage points.


c) Via the Courts

Southern politicians have successfully lobbied for an end to desegregation orders dating back decades:

Since 2000 , judges have released hundreds of school districts, from Mississippi to Virginia, from court-enforced integration, and many of these districts have followed the same path as Tuscaloosa’s—back toward segregation. Black children across the South now attend majority-black schools at levels not seen in four decades.

Tuscaloosa re-segregates
Tuscaloosa re-segregates

The principal [of an all-black Tuscaloosa school] struggles to explain to students how the segregation they experience is any different from the old version simply because no law requires it. “It is hard, it is a tough conversation, and it is a conversation I don’t think we as adults want to have.”

d) Charter schools

Charter schools have also become a new tool of re-segregation. In North Carolina:

Columbus Charter School, Whiteville, NC
Columbus Charter School, Whiteville, NC

North Carolina’s charter schools [opened in 1997] have become a way for white parents to secede from the public school system, as they once did to escape racial integration orders. … Charter schools in North Carolina tend to be either overwhelmingly black or overwhelmingly white–in contrast to traditional public schools, which are more evenly mixed.

In Minnesota:

Twin Cities International Charter School, Minneapolis, MN
Twin Cities International Charter School, Minneapolis, MN

A state program intended to help integrate school districts and balance academic opportunities for children of all races has actually resulted in increased racial segregation. A new University of Minnesota analysis finds that more white students than students of color across the Twin Cities metropolitan area are leaving racially diverse districts to enroll in predominantly white districts, a variation of the “white flight” of the 1970s and 1980s.

In New Jersey:

Hoboken Charter School, Hoboken, NJ
Hoboken Charter School, Hoboken, NJ

(Board of Education president Leon Gold) ‘I just am so convinced that Hoboken represents everything wrong with the charter school system. It’s a charter school system gone totally astray. … We have a case in Hoboken where in fact the charter schools have become a white flight school.

They hide behind the lottery … “Random” is not random [if] you put a few biases in the system. For example … you have to go out and go through the effort to sign up … I am accusing none of them of being racist. I’m saying these numbers speak for themselves, and in fact there’s this huge disparity.’

e) School vouchers (‘school choice’)

Even the conservatives’ ‘race-blind’ pet program, school vouchers (a.k.a. ‘school choice’), has led to similar outcomes. In Michigan:

’School choice’ shakes up Michigan
’School choice’ shakes up Michigan

‘School choice has accelerated segregation by race, by class, by ability, by special education status and by language,’ said Gary Miron, an education professor at Western Michigan University. … Today, Michigan’s school choice law has led to several districts that are far more majority white, while creating additional districts in which minority students are in the majority.

And in Ohio:

School choice in Ohio
School choice in Ohio

Open enrollment, which allows children to transfer from one school district to another, leads to widespread racial segregation and concentrates poverty in many of Ohio’s urban school districts. … The majority of students who participated in Ohio’s oldest school choice program are disproportionately white and middle class. Students attending the schools they left, however, are nearly twice as likely to be minority and seven times more likely to be poor.

f) Forming their own cities / districts

In a number of big cities, modern Whites have all but fled downtown for the suburbs. Many are now trying cut the cord for good by officially breaking off into their own cities / school districts. In Atlanta:

Modern-day segregation, Atlanta GA
Modern-day segregation, Atlanta GA

In 2011, the Atlanta Journal Constitution reported the Georgia Legislative Black Caucus filed a lawsuit against the state of Georgia seeking to dissolve the city charters of [Atlanta suburbs] Dunwoody, Sandy Springs, Johns Creek, Milton and Chattahoochee Hills. The lawsuit claimed, the paper reported, that the state “circumvented the normal legislative process and set aside its own criteria when creating the ‘super-majority white’ cities within Fulton and DeKalb counties.”

Similar break-away efforts have been made in Memphis, Baton Rouge, San Francisco, Birmingham, and Chattanooga.

South Baton Rouge, LA dreams of becoming ‘St George’
South Baton Rouge, LA dreams of becoming ‘St George’

2) Results–The numbers

And the results of all these machinations–what does the data say?
a) Education numbers

The U.S. Dept. of Education has begun releasing data on racial ‘density.’ From this study, we see that, for example, in Alabama, the average black pupil goes to a school that is 63% black. In Illinois, that number is 62%. However, in Illinois they make up only 15% of the population, while in Alabama they’re 27%.

The relationship between these two numbers is what interests us. It can be seen here for all states in the study (click to enlarge):

(Note that some states had too few black pupils to include in the study.)

Looking at just the top half of the graph, one is struck by how many northern states’ school systems are just as segregated as southern ones, but with a much smaller black population.

We divided the first number by the second, and mapped the results (here only for states with 10% or more black population):

The South’s public schools appear as among the least segregated, perhaps due to the very high percentage of black pupils there.

Here are the results for all the states included in the study:

b) Housing numbers

The best way to feel out residential segregation is by using a ‘Segregation Index.’ (100% = fully segregated, 0% = fully integrated [more details here])

The University of Michigan looked at the 2010 census data and came up with such an index, at the neighborhood level, for every U.S. metro area of over 500,000 people.

When one looks at only metros with significant black population, here is what one sees. (Note that these are not cities but metro areas, meaning suburbs as well, and in some cases adjoining towns.)

The 15 most segregated metro areas in 2010:

The 15 least segregated metro areas in 2010:

One is struck by the fact that 13 of 15 ‘most segregated’ are found in the North, while 14 of 15 ‘least segregated’ are in the South.

So, is there any correlation between the number of Blacks in the population and Whites’ desire to self-segregate? We have plotted these two variables (click to enlarge):

Data source

As it turns out, there is—but only for Northern states (.70 correlation) and Western states (.65 correlation).

Data source (click to enlarge)
For the South? No correlation to speak of—a measly .23 coefficient.

Data source (click to enlarge)

If we break the South into ‘Deep South’ and ‘Upper South,’ those numbers are .31 and .45, respectively.


Texas, however, seems to act very differently from the rest of the South—if it is considered separately (six metro areas, about 18 million people), we find a very high correlation there indeed–.89 on average for those cities.

What does all this mean? The first thing it shows is that the anecdotes above tell the truth–Black-white segregation is alive and well in the 21st century U.S.A.

The second thing it shows is stark regional difference. We posited that the higher the Afro population becomes, the more ethnic Euros will try to segregate themselves. The data seems to show that residentially, this is true—but only for the North and West (including Texas), not the South. The ‘why’ behind these correlation levels remains to be seen.

Having looked at the many and varied ways that Euro-Americans have sought to separate themselves from Afros, both yesterday and today, let us now turn to the why.

IV. Myth #4: The Desire to Segregate Is Senseless • 2,200 Words

It is a popular myth that Euros have always fled Afro encroachment due to some kind of irrational fear of melanin. But the evidence hardly bears this out. As we have seen, Euro-Americans from a century ago, just as today, had concrete reasons for fleeing black in-migration. Let’s revisit them.

1) Property Value Decline

A white homeowner in post-war Levittown, PA said of his new black neighbor, David Myers, “[he’s] probably a nice guy, but every time I look at him I see $2,000 drop off the value of my house.” Confirmation from the 1919 Chicago race commission report:

No single factor has complicated the relations of Negroes and whites in Chicago more than the widespread feeling of white people that the presence of Negroes in a neighborhood is a cause of serious depreciation of property.

[…] A leading real estate dealer said that “when a Negro moves into a block the value of the properties on both sides of the street is depreciated all the way from $100,000 to $500,000 [$1,300,000 to $6,500,000 today], depending upon the value of the property in the block”; that it was a fact and that there was no escaping it. (7)

The same was true across the country at the time, and is still true today:

In most times and places, then, Afro encroachment into a neighborhood has sent its property values falling. But why?

2) Why We Segregate

There were four main reasons (originally explored in modified form here), and readers today may be surprised to learn that little has changed in a hundred years.

a) Neighborhood disorder

One criticism from Euro-Americans has been that Afros’ community standards are not the same as theirs.


Chicago slum, 1950s
Chicago slum, 1950s

Chicago, 1919:

The exclusive occupancy of a block by Negroes is usually followed by less care of streets and alleys. […] From the office manager of a South Side real estate firm: Much depreciation, he said, can be attributed to Negro tenants; they are much harder on houses than white tenants of the same station in life; they do not take proper care of the furnaces or plumbing, and the higher rents paid by them merely cover the cost of the additional repairs;… (7)

Columbus OH, 1928:

A man representing a building and loan company says that the negroes as a race do not keep their property up and so they soon make a community undesirable for a good class of white people. He cites the principal negro districts in the city as evidence. (5)

South Side of Chicago, 1941
South Side of Chicago, 1941

Their perceived noisiness was also disliked. Washington D.C., 1929:

There is the rather general belief among white people that Negroes are highly gregarious, with inclinations to have too many people around their homes—with a special tendency to congregate on the front porches. This tendency was generally referred to as looking “bad for the community.” (10)

In a canvas of 200 homes in Washington D.C., whites were asked why they objected to black neighbors. The top responses:

Source: The Housing of Negroes… (10)
Source: The Housing of Negroes… (10)

John Dollard, who did a racial study in small-town Mississippi in the 1930s:

In general the white side [of town] is quieter, especially at night; there are fewer people moving on the streets, although the number of whites and Negroes in town is about the same. A sense of discipline and order is more apparent. People are more likely to move about in cars. There is less walking, loitering, and laughing than on the negro side. (13)


Harlem, New York City
Harlem, New York City

From a 2005 Chicago study on ‘urban disorder’:

White residents were far more likely to report disorder than black or Latino residents living in the same neighborhood — sensitivities that might explain, they theorized, why whites are relatively scarce in many city neighborhoods.

That is, what Blacks and Latinos consider ‘normal’ living conditions are seen as ‘disordered’ by Whites. One clue as to why the latter are so averse to living near the former?

But then the number-crunching got really interesting. As the proportion of black residents in a neighborhood increased, white residents’ perception of disorder also soared — even in neighborhoods that the [visual] raters had judged to be no more ramshackle than others with a smaller proportion of black residents.

The ‘visual raters’ watched video taken of city streets, judging purely by this cue how ‘disordered’ it was.

Camden, New Jersey
Camden, New Jersey

Much to the researchers’ surprise, they saw the same patterns when they looked at the perceptions of black residents. As the percentage of African Americans in the neighborhood increased, the percentage of black residents who judged their neighborhood to be in disarray also rose — out of proportion to the neighborhood’s [visual] rating. Among Latinos, the pattern was even starker. They were far more likely than either blacks or whites to be negatively affected by the increased presence of black residents, the researchers found.

How then to explain the fact that Whites, Blacks, and Latinos all feel less at ease as the number of their black neighbors soar? One possibility is that they are all confused. Another is that they are all racist (in Blacks’ case, against themselves). Or maybe it is that daily unpleasant interactions with these Afro neighbors–not captured on the ‘visual raters’ videos–lead to a belief one’s neighborhood is, in fact, more unpleasant.

The more Blacks in a neighborhood, the more unease its residents feel–be they White, Black, or Hispanic
The more Blacks in a neighborhood, the more unease its residents feel–be they White, Black, or Hispanic

From a study of urban blight in modern Brooklyn:

Some of the black pioneers in [Brooklyn’s] Lefferts Manor evidence resentment over the fact that the neighborhood is now predominately black. … Their explanations for wanting to relocate in white areas are universal. A common theme is that past experience has taught them that in black neighborhoods there is a gradual decrease in the quality and quantity of city services — sanitation, police, [etc.].

Why won’t the garbagemen do their jobs? Backyards in Baltimore slum
Why won’t the garbagemen do their jobs? Backyards in Baltimore slum

Confusing cause and effect, these black-flighters claimed to not understand that garbage men were less careful in neighborhoods that dumped their refuse everywhere, and that police were less motivated to work where citizens routinely menace them and practice ‘no snitching.’

A sense of general disorder, then, does seem to follow Afros into the areas in which they live, alienating their Euro neighbors.

b) Lack of family values

Whites in America have often shied away from living near those whom they perceive as not sharing their moral values.


[W.E.B. DuBois, writing of Philadelphia in 1899:] The number of deserted wives, however, allowing for false reports, is astoundingly large and presents many intricate problems. A very large part of charity given to Negroes is asked for this reason. … Here is a wide field for social regeneration.

Mother and two children on welfare, Chicago, 1941
Mother and two children on welfare, Chicago, 1941

[…] There can be no doubt but what sexual looseness is to-day the prevailing sin of the mass of the Negro population, and that its prevalence can be traced to bad home life in most cases. Children are allowed on the street night and day unattended; loose talk is often indulged in; the sin is seldom if ever denounced in the churches. (11)

Huffman says that in 1894 more than one-fourth of the colored births in the city of Washington were illegitimate. Many prominent Negroes admit that above ninety per cent of both sexes are unchaste. A negro may be a pillar in the church and at the same time the father of a dozen illegitimate children by as many mothers. (12)


Euro-Americans still sense that Afro citizens do not share their familial values, and that this makes them poor neighbors. The latter have lower marriage rates, higher divorce rates, more unwed motherhood (formerly known as ‘illegitimacy’), more child abuse, engage in more gambling, have poorer credit, their children have more school discipline problems, and they’re far less likely to have two parents in the home:

Data sources: 1880-1980, 1990-2010
Data sources: 1880-1980, 1990-2010

c) Criminality

Black criminality–which has been higher than that of Whites for all of recorded U.S. history–has long been given as a reason for desiring separation.


[W.E.B. DuBois:] In the city of Philadelphia the increasing number of bold and daring crimes committed by Negroes in the last ten years [1889-1899] has focused the attention of the city on this subject. There is a widespread feeling that something is wrong with a race that is responsible for so much crime, and that strong remedies are called for. (12)

The numbers bear him out: (click to enlarge)

(Data source: U.S. compendia of the Census 1870, 1880, 1890, 1904, 1910)
(Data source: U.S. compendia of the Census 1870, 1880, 1890, 1904, 1910)



These concerns remain common a century later: (click to enlarge)

Data source: Color of Crime 2016

d) Undesirable schoolmates

Schooling one’s children separately was much easier in the past, and many white parents preferred to do so. But for what reasons?


Ethnic Euros have long resisted schooling their children with Afros:

The Ohio courts upheld [school] segregation in 1850 and 1859, rejecting the idea of integration and declaring that, “whether consistent with true philanthropy or not … there still is an almost invincible repugnance to such communion and fellowship.” (4)

NYC classroom, 1890
NYC classroom, 1890

Schoolteachers a century ago found black children to be both cognitively and morally challenged:

Thus a teacher in one of the elementary schools of Chicago finds that “colored children are restive and incapable of abstract thought; they must be constantly fed with novel interests and given things to do with their hands.”


The assistant principal of a Chicago high school attended by Negroes said: “When it comes to morality, I say colored children are unmoral. They have no more moral sense than a very young white child. Along sex lines they don’t know that this is wrong and that is wrong that wrong sense isn’t a part of them. (7)

Greene County, Georgia, 1943
Greene County, Georgia, 1943

The School Superintendent of Birmingham, AL , quoted in 1910:

‘The black child has a good word-memory and a good eye-memory. He will often learn by rote quicker than a white child — but it is a different thing when it comes to understanding what he learns. Such an imitative function as writing comes at least as easy to the negro as to the white ; but in anything that requires reasoning — in mathematics, for instance — the negro soon falls behind.’ (14)



Little has changed among white opinion. Above, Steve Sailer notes that white parents are still fleeing schools full of what they think are ‘dim and dangerous’ students. Is such a belief warranted?



Neighborhood disorder, different morals, higher crime, dim and dangerous schoolmates: The evidence clearly shows that from the Great Migration onward, Afros’ reputation preceded them–and where it did not, Euro-Americans have quickly fled what they reasonably perceived as undesirable neighbors.

• • •

In Caste and Class in a Southern Town (1937), John Dollard wrote:

Caste has replaced slavery as a means of maintaining the essence of the old status order in the South. By means of it racial animosity is held at a minimum.

In both North and South, as we have seen, a certain tolerance of caste mixing was permitted when black numbers remained small. As they grew, so did Whites’ desire to separate.

Mixed neighborhood, Chicago, 1922
Mixed neighborhood, Chicago, 1922

… American caste is pinned not to cultural but to biological features—to color, features, hair form, and the like. … In the course of time the physical stigmata may be left isolated as the only warrant of caste difference.The cultural stigmata of the past seem likely to disappear altogether. (13)

Here Dollard showed an optimism that has proved unfounded. Unlike so many groups that came after them (Italians, Irish, Jews, Greeks, Chinese, even Hispanics), Afros have continued, to this day, to elicit a very strong separation response in Euro-Americans. Not because of their ‘physical stigmata,’ but indeed because of the culture we rightly associate with it.

As we have seen, the different evolutionary path Africans have tread has left them with such divergent levels of future orientation, impulse control, aggressivity, abstract reasoning ability and out-group empathy, that other groups find it devilishly hard to ‘mesh’ with them.

The segregation regime–de jure or de facto–was a series of daily humiliations that proved exasperating and embittering for America’s Afros. But there is every evidence that it is their own behavioral make-up, and not a baseless fear of melanin, which has continually pushed Euros to try to avoid them. It is an ugly truth, but an inescapable one.

Colored-only beach, Florida, 1940s
Colored-only beach, Florida, 1940s

The policy solution? Unfortunately, we don’t see one. The most compassionate Whites, from Abraham Lincoln to Francis Scott Key, always believed the situation was untenable long-term, and advocated the same thing men like Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X later would: Physical separation. Today such a notion is unthinkable–unless it comes from people of color themselves.

It is impossible for us to say where the multicultural question is headed. But the data, both empirical and anecdotal, is clear: Despite all the ‘forcing and cajoling,’ the profound discomfort caused by large numbers of Euros and Afros living cheek-by-jowl does not seem to be abating.

Policy-makers have no hope of finding a solution to this endless conundrum if they don’t take the time to understand which aspects of the segregation story are true, and which are (potentially dangerous) myths.

Thank you for reading.



Whence Housing Segregation?,

Diversity and the North, Yesterday,
Reparations for Red-lining

References • 200 Words

(1) Woodward, C. Vann, The Strange Career of Jim Crow, Oxford U. Press, 1955.
(2) Carter, Wilmoth A., The Urban Negro in the South, Negro Main Street and its Evolution, New York, Vantage Press, 1961.
(3) Burroughs, Nannie H., chairman, Report of the Committe on Negro Housing, called by President Hoover, Washington D.C.: National Capital Press, 1932.
(4) Harper, Douglas, Slavery in the North: The Exclusion of Free Blacks, 2003.
(5) Mark, Mary Louise, Negroes in Columbus, Columbus, Ohio State U. Press, 1928.
(6) Venable Kennedy, Louise, The Negro Peasant Turns Cityward: Effects of Recent Migrations to Northern Centers, Columbia U. Press: New York, 1930.
(7) Chicago Commission on Race Relations, The Negro in Chicago, A Study of Race Relations and a Race Riot , U. of Chicago Press, 1919.
(8) Minneapolis Urban League, The Negro Population in Minneapolis: A Study of Race Relations, 1926.
(9) Lee, Frank F., Negro and White in Connecticut Town, NY: Bookman Associates, 1961.
(10) Jones, William Henry, The housing of negroes in Washington, D.C.; a study in human ecology, Washington: Howard U. Press, 1929.
(11) DuBois, W.E.B., The Philadelphia Negro, NY: Lippincott, 1899.
(12) Collins, W.H., The Truth About Lynching and the Negro in the South, New York: Neale Publishing Co., 1918.
(13) Dollard, John, Caste and Class in a Southern Town, U. of Wisconsin Press, 1937.
(14) Archer, William. Through Afro-America: An English Reading of the Race Problem. London: Chapman & Hall, 1910.

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  1. Wally says:

    blacks also owned slaves in the US south
    Africans had massive slavery, it was black Africans who sold black African slaves to the slave traders
    slavery of black Africans would have never happened without black Africans selling black African slaves

    black slave owners


    New Orleans, from their 1860 census that showed 3000 freed blacks owned slaves, accounting for 28 percent of the city’s population? In 1860 Louisiana, at least 6 blacks owned more than 65 slaves, with the biggest number of slaves being 165 slaves who worked on a sugar plantation.
    At the height of slavery, a paltry 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves.

    “The fact is large numbers of free Negroes owned black slaves; in fact, in numbers disproportionate to their representation in society at large. In 1860 only a small minority of whites owned slaves. According to the U.S. census report for that last year before the Civil War, there were nearly 27 million whites in the country. Some eight million of them lived in the slaveholding states.

    The census also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves (1). Even if all slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country (or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves).

    In the rare instances when the ownership of slaves by free Negroes is acknowledged in the history books, justification centers on the claim that black slave masters were simply individuals who purchased the freedom of a spouse or child from a white slaveholder and had been unable to legally manumit them. Although this did indeed happen at times, it is a misrepresentation of the majority of instances, one which is debunked by records of the period on blacks who owned slaves. These include individuals such as Justus Angel and Mistress L. Horry, of Colleton District, South Carolina, who each owned 84 slaves in 1830. In fact, in 1830 a fourth of the free Negro slave masters in South Carolina owned 10 or more slaves; eight owning 30 or more.

    According to federal census reports, on June 1, 1860 there were nearly 4.5 million Negroes in the United States, with fewer than four million of them living in the southern slaveholding states. Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were not slaves. Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country’s leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city

    Jew slave ship owners


  2. Given the evidence provided in this article, why does the myth persist that a multicultural and multiracial utopia might still be just around the corner, if only we implement one more, new and improved, educational program?

    I submit that the main reason is the content of popular media, especially fictional television series and film. These are controlled by upper-class liberal-progressives in New York and California, who wield an incredible will to imagine realities entirely at odds with their own self-segregation to put their kids in the ‘good’ (whiter) schools, while that option is out of reach for poorer folks who must deal with the real problems of neighborhoods and schools ridden by non-English speaking illegal immigrants, lower standards, gangs, and criminal behavior in general.

    I believe the white nationalist wing of the emerging new right is too ideologically extreme, but I agree that we need people on our side developing media that create a positive vision for the future grounded in race realism.

  3. Realist says:

    Thirteen thousand seven hundred words….really.

  4. neutral says:

    A very interesting and comprehensive piece. Speaking from South Africa, since the racial numbers are basically the inverse of what America was (90%/10%), the idea of some kind of racial utopia was never ever going to last long. The transition of going to white to non white neighbourhood is very rapid, there can never be this rainbow multicutural wonderland regardless how much the media and government try to sell their propaganda. Even the most liberal leftist will eventually partake in white flight, they will no doubt not call it that, they will say it is because they want to find a better school or live in a crime free area, but in the end their reasons are pretty much the same as the white racists they like to hate so much.

    • Replies: @Olympus
  5. What more needs to be said? It doesn’t take much personal experience with black dysfunction to know that it is something you never want to deal with again. The time has come begin work on a serious plan for the permanent removal of America’s African population.

    • Agree: brandybranch
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  6. dearieme says:

    Fascinating. Thank you for that.

    So, at least in part, it was a matter of numbers? I wonder whether the cause was not just the increase in negro numbers in the southern cities, but the types of negroes i.e. people not used to urban ways.

    Or might it relate to something else? What caused the negro migration to the cities? Whatever it was, could it have caused the white desire for segregation too?

    • Replies: @anon
  7. wow says:

    I’m sure millions of white kids would be perfectly happy going to a school free of low IQ black kids with behavior issues. Such classrooms are a cesspool.

  8. Having found my way into an inner-city junior high school, where little, white me was distinctly a minority, I can tell you that segregating myself with others of European descent was not mandatory or a result of group peer pressure, but it was a useful survival tool, because we were rarely accepted by the black students and certainly not protected or helped by them when other black students attacked us for money or just for fun/spite.

    Was my life enriched by being thrown into this jungle? Sure, it toughened me up for worse in the military. Did I gain useful insights and cultural awareness? Sure, but nothing particularly useful, and almost certainly not the enrichment the SJWs of the day thought would result, and in fact it turned me into a race realist who can readily interact with black folk of all strata but less likely to do so. Did throwing us in with the inner city black kids do anything to enrich their lives? I sincerely doubt it, as most went on to the streets and crime. The very few I know who went on to better schools, college and careers would have gone that way anyway and were ostracized as oreos by their fellow blacks in any case for having such ambitions.

  9. youp says:

    No need to use the past tense. If you’re looking for slaves just go to Senegal or Gambia. Black slaves owned by black people.

    • Agree: Epochehusserl
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  10. Jake says:

    T. McCants Stewart is typical of blacks. They look to be the center of trouble; they look to see any sign that they will not be allowed to do whatever they want. so they can throw a temper tantrum.

    • Replies: @Alden
  11. The map showing the % of free blacks in 1850 can be misleading if one does not know a little history. Blacks were introduced into the deep south as a result of the cotton boom leading up to 1850. Prior to the cotton boom there were few people besides Native Americans outside of seaport regions in the deep south.

    The old south had 200 years of slavery alongside profitable plantation agriculture, during which time the culture evolved. In the north, plantation economics did not work for a variety of reasons, so there was no economic incentive to own large numbers of slaves.

    From Wikipedia:

    Prior to the U.S Civil War, cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850.

  12. Truth says:

    Was my life enriched by being thrown into this jungle? Sure, it toughened me up

    Full Stop.

    As a man, this is one of the actual purposes of childhood.

    You should actually track down a few of your ex-classmates in our state-sanctioned penal institutions, and thank them for preventing you from growing into a Whiskey.

  13. It doesn’t take much personal experience with black dysfunction to know that it is something you never want to deal with again.

    Same goes for white dysfunction, I think.

    You don’t even have to look for it either. It’s in our faces 24/7 and it’s one of the reasons I never watch TV.

    Then we have the banking, corporate and government criminals, most of whom are blanco, or some mongrel mixture thereof, and once again one doesn’t even have to look.

    • Replies: @Tired of Riots
  14. @youp

    No need to use the past tense. If you’re looking for slaves just go to Senegal or Gambia. Black slaves owned by black people.

    You are correct about not needing the past tense, but one doesn’t need to leave home to find white slaves owned by white folk.

    Let me introduce youse cats to the concepts of wage, debt and tax slavery.

    Note the title and the date.:

    “But in reality the abolition of serfdom and of slavery was only the abolition of an obsolete form of slavery that had become unnecessary, and the substitution for it of a firmer form of slavery and one that holds a greater number of people in bondage.”

    – Leo Tolstoy

    A few typos, but otherwise a fine summary: Tolstoy, Slavery of Our Times, Chap 8, 11 July, 1900


    • Replies: @youp
  15. @Wally

    All of the first slaves in the early days were white usually irish and north english. during the period of trans atlantic slavery africans were raiding the coasts of europe for slaves, its estimated they took at least as many whites slaves possibly an order of magnitude more. most of these african slave traders were arabic or mixed arabic and black
    as the map points out many blacks were not slaves in the us, all had at least sundays and evenings off, many worked for wages at side jobs, and used this money for all sorts of things like fancy clothes, buying their freedom or their childrens, starting side farms. Theres several documented cases of slaves loaning there money to their masters at interest. southerners mixed fairly well with slaves. slaves lived fairly well, only 1-2% owned slaves so most southerners who in some counties were still outnumbered dealt very harshly with slaveowners who mistreated slaves fearing a rebellion. former white slaves might become managers and still socialize with their former coslaves, evenings whites taught blacks about the celtic and english folk music and instruments we think blacks taught us the blues untl you listen to earlier celtic folk music and realize where africans learned the blues.master too might come out on an evening maybe with a jug or a ham. non slaves wages in agriculture were often less than it took to live even if you worked harder than slaves who frankly never worked very hard.even small landholders rarely lived better than slaves, partly because slaves oversupplied and labor and lowered wages but mostly because that was how it was in agricultural economies. only the largest landholders through economy of scale more capital and being first to settle had the better land and could survive. southern land kinda sucks and has large insects pops because no hard winters.
    This idea that all white benefited or were responsible for slavery is absurd, that todays whites 90% of who have no ancestors in america during slave is even more absurd. By this logic all blacks are even more responsible for the amount of whites some blacks kill every year which is way more than all the blacks justly lynched. The fact of lynching is whites were also lynched since small rual towns had no money for courts police prisons and a judge might visit a few times a year. the stats are whites and blacks were lynched or executed at the same rates they are today proportionately in other words back then as today blacks commit most crimes

    • Replies: @anonymous
  16. @wow

    I’m sure millions of white kids would be perfectly happy going to a school free of low IQ black kids with behavior issues. Such classrooms are a cesspool.

    In case you haven’t noticed, our whole society is a cesspool, and has been for some time.

    As for schooling…

    We found to our discomfiture that the vast majority of mankind have neither the force of intellect to apprehend the processes of education, nor the force of character to make an educational discipline prevail in their lives.

    Albert Jay Nock, The Theory of Education in the United States (1932), chapter 6.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  17. @Demontage2000

    The implications may be too ugly to contemplate but the truth is because its good for the jews. About the time the huge wave of radical communist and anarchist jewish immigration got their feet under them in america they set about radicalizing blacks and turning whites onto communism. to repay us for saving them from the comeuppance they well deserved in germany when they tried to export the genocidal revolution they instigated and ran in russia to germany, the war was not even over and they set about trying to export the revolution to the usa. They quickly decided taking advantage of the principles of egalitarianism in christianity and the american constitution they could deconstruct our culture and our genetics, in 64 they pushed through bill for non white immigration policy and began the propaganda campaign known as the civil rights movement. its worth noting as far bak as the 1800s they didnt yet own enough newspapers but they owned most of the businesses like department stores whose adverts were the life blood of newspapers that it was an oft complained fact that it was impossible to question or criticize the jews in any way, soon thereafter they began to take over wall street as well as the law. by the 40s they were a large part of fdrs administration and were transferring huge technologies and industry to the soviet union even during three wars periods.Multiculturalism is good for the jews precisely because it is bad for us.Dont believe me read the article right here from a few days ago where a prominent jewish “conservative” writes exactly this completely oblivious to how we might think this is nothing short of genocidal treason by those we took to our bosom. The jews need to go and their thuf brown shock troops with them

    • Agree: Carroll Price
  18. @wow

    The only thing that could obviate the need for harsh measures is a mass conversion to Catholicism. Ethnos needs Logos. Racial differences largely dissolve in the crucible of true religion. But with a Pope who is AWOL on the Great Commission, that chance seems more remote than ever.

  19. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Colleen Pater

    Are you unable to review and edit your comments? The lack of punctuation, erroneous homonyms, etc., seem needlessly annoying.

  20. Alden says:

    I didn’t read the POS but all I can say is Segregation now!!! Segregation forever!!! Just the noise they making standing around in the 7-11 parking lot 2 blocks away is enough to make me want to never see or hear one ever again. Ever used public transportation with blacks in the same bus?? My God the noise and cursing and general carrying on! Why? Why can’t they just go about their business without a lot of screeching, posturing, showing off and carrying on? And the incessant babbling about nothing at all.

    And they behave the same way in the workplace. They don’t work, they just babble endlessly about nothing while posturing and gesturing, arms and legs flailing about, stepping backwards and forwards and sideways almost knocking people down. I hate to get behind a black person when out in public because they constantly lurch backwards and could knock me down.

    Newsweek is in NYC. Many of the writers and editors are middle aged adults who lived through the bad years before Guiianii cleaned it up. The now see how de blackio von commumist has unleashed the black storm troopers of the anti White agenda again.

    They don’t make that much money, do they never go out in public and see how blacks behave? Do they have a a driver? A driver gets paid at least $30,000 a year. Who can afford a driver on $110,000 a year? They must be out and about in NYC every day and see horrible black behavior all the time.

    But they are liberals and therefore liars.

    • Replies: @brandybranch
  21. Mark Presco says: • Website

    Blacks threw the whole idea of a colorblind society right out the window immediately following the Civil Rights movement with their concept of affirmative action. They now demand we notice their skin color and give them preferential treatment in all things because of it. The rationale was that it would facilitate them becoming fully enfranchised citizens of this county, by contributing equally to it. They have failed to deliver on that promise.

    Instead, they have focused on being appropriately black. They have created a culture that is intended to be not just different than the white culture, it is anti-white; and it is almost entirely parasitic.

    In the ‘60s 24% of black children were born to unwed mothers, today it’s 74%. The vast majority of black women now use and abuse their children in a deliberate effort to abuse the system. These children are raised to believe that they are victims of white oppressors even though it’s white taxpayers who are doing more to put food in their belles, clothes on their backs and roof over their heads than their own parents.

    Blacks are increasingly playing the past injustice card in order to obfuscate the current injustice they inflict on this country. The same goes for Black Lives Matter.

    The only solution for this problem is a total separation of the races.

    • Replies: @Alden
  22. Corvinus says:

    From the author’s website are cogent rebuttals from a poster named “Yankee Imperialist”. Yeomen’s work.

    “One common misconception is that Southerners started passing Jim Crow laws the moment the last Union troops left town. They did not. In fact the bulk of them came decades later, near the turn of the century. Why so late? “

    You are conveniently forgetting black codes passed by Southern states in after the Civil War. These laws had the intent and the effect of restricting the liberties of black freedom and compelling them to work in a labor economy based on low wages or debt. In addition, southern states had passed laws that discriminated against free blacks, which prohibited them from voting, bearing arms, gathering in groups for worship, and learning to read and write. C. Vann Woodward actually noted in his seminal work that black codes passed right after the Civil War ended by southern legislatures were the precursors to Jim Crow and facilitated aggression toward blacks and white supremacy without reservation. Woodward’s thesis centers around the absence of laws mandating segregation; however, de facto segregation was present much earlier, was firmly in place during Reconstruction, and was dependent upon the extent of communities enforcing it. Moreover, even Woodward admitted the early and rigid appearance of segregation during Reconstruction in public education, religion, and social welfare institutions.

    “…in almost all cities of the Ante-bellum South free Negroes comprised the artisan class of workers.”

    One must look at the historical context here. Prior to the Civil War, southern plantations were generally self-sufficient. It made sense for white owners to have their black slaves trained as tanners, carpenters, and coopers. These individuals would have their labor sold to other plantations as the means to earn additional income for the slave owner. Black slaves then taught their offspring these skills. Free blacks who were in the trades during the 1830’s and 1840’s in southern cities were generally looked down upon by the upper class whites. This group of workers especially lived in cities, were relatively low in overall numbers, and were known for their craftsmanship at a low price. However, by the 1850’s many southerners, already on the defensive in regard to slavery, worried that free blacks would collaborate with abolitionists. As a result, southern states began to pass legislation targeting their free status, including those in the artisan classes, who were replaced by local whites.

    “‘the Negro sat where he pleased and among the white passengers on perhaps a majority of the state’s railroads.’

    Again, one must look at the historical context here. Indeed, the State of Virginia was more liberal when it came to race relations, which included enabling blacks and whites to move freely on trains. The Deep South was an entirely different matter.

    “Vernon Wharton in his study on Mississippi [1865-1890]: For some years ‘most of the saloons served whites and Negroes at the same bar. Many of the restaurants, using separate tables, served both races in the same room.”

    Again, one must look a the historical context here. Wharton was describing the situation during Republican rule of the South in the 1870’s. By the 1880’s, communities had passed laws here prohibiting the serving of blacks and whites in public accommodations.

    “At the International Exposition in New Orleans in 1885 Charles Dudley Warner watched with some astonishment as ‘white and colored people mingled freely, talking and looking at what was of common interest”.

    Again, one must look at the social context. New Orleans compare to the rest of Louisiana was more liberal when it came to race relations. Woodward even noted that while giving this example that “it would certainly be preposterous to leave the impression that any evidence I have submitted indicates a golden age of race relations in the period between Redemption and complete segregation. On the contrary, the evidence of race conflict and violence, brutality and exploitation in this very period is overwhelming.” Generally speaking, existing social customs which had remained unchanged by post-Civil War developments.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Curmudgeon
  23. wayfarer says:

    It appears that all the social engineering in the world can’t make our multicultural dreams come true …

    “It is Becoming Illegal to be Homeless in America”

    “Criminalization of Homelessness”

    “War on the Homeless”

    “California’s Homelessness Crisis Expands to Country”

    “California Senate: ‘You May Not Sleep in Your Car’ “

  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Trailer trash is a class of people.

  25. whorefinder says: • Website

    Excellent article. We need more like this. After losing the propaganda war in the news papers pre-war, the South for years made sure academia thoroughly documented what actually happened before, during, and after the Civil War. Then the commies got in, barred the door to any non-commies, and made sure history was completely 1984-ed.

  26. TheOldOne says:

    The reason we southern whites have never really liked blacks much is quite simple…we’ve LIVED around them since the 17’th century and seen what they are like, unlike the goodwhites of the North. Jim Crow is NOT returning.

  27. @Father Coughlin

    How will joining the pagan Whore of Babylon help with anything?

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  28. Alden says:
    @Father Coughlin

    I dunno. New Orleans and Louisiana blacks are mostly Catholic aren’t they? And they behave as badly as the baptists and AMEs and the rest of the hooting hollering jabbering critters.

  29. Alden says:

    Yeah, brutality and rape by the freed blacks on White women and children. One reason I have only watched gone with the wind once in my life is that scene when Scarlet is driving at night and a group of White guys stop her buggy and try to drag her out to be raped.

    And her faithful black servant rescues her by driving the White would be rapists away. Right, never happened, it was the blacks who went on a rape rampage they havn’t stopped yet That’s why the ONLY, ONLY effective anti rape organization was founded after the civil war.That scene is like Grisham’s anti White propaganda book A Time to Kill. It’s based on a true rape but to get it published Grisham had to reverse the races.

    Who gives a F*** about your clip and paste wikepedia non research. 27 years a probation officer, I know who commits the crime, especially rape in this country.

    I don’t know why Jews worship black criminals but they do. I don’t know why most White goyim men worship black sports team thugs but they do.

    Law enforcement people know who commits the crime in this country. Liberals democrats and jews who read the mass media, people like you ,are naive fools.

    • LOL: Father Coughlin
    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Corvinus
  30. @jacques sheete

    Then we have the banking, corporate and government criminals, most of whom are blanco, or some mongrel mixture thereof, and once again one doesn’t even have to look.

    Well…(((blanco))). Banking…corporate…government (Israel lobby anyone?)…I’ll just leave it there.

  31. Alden says:
    @Chris Mallory

    I assume you think Jews are the chosen people of God and think Israel is the greatest country on earth and give vast amounts of money to Joel Osteen and James hagee and all those TV zionist evangalists.

    When all your holy roller churches have fallen down the Vatican, the great repository of the White European peoples culture, learning technology science and art will still be there.

    I don’t believe in God and I’m not a Catholic, but whatever you think of the Catholic church, it is you and me and every other European person on earth. Do you have any idea what is in the VAtical library and museums? Do you know that the calendar we use was re done in the Vatican? Do you know that the very discovery of America was done by Catholics with the encouragement of the Catholic Church?

    Do you know where the renmants of the Alexandria Egyot library are? In the Vatican library. Do you know that the greatest book burning in history was done by Henry 8 and Thomas Cromwell? Did you know that in the 6th century AD ST Columba sailed in a coracle from Ireland to Canada and recorded his visit?

    I don’t believe in art but I do believe in the White European people and their art, science, politics music technology and beauty and most of it is because of the Catholic church.

    Are you one of those holy rollers who read only the Jewish bible and believe God created the world in 6 days. Does your church deny that Jesus is God? As the witch burners Calvin and Knox proclaimed,
    “There is but one God and that is the God of Israel”

    And your mention of the Whore of Babylon just proves you are an idiot who believes that collection of myths and fables know as the Hebrew bible or the Old Testament. Even Israeli Jews are beginning to prove that the Old Testament is untrue in almost all aspects including the slavery in Egypt, the exodus from Egypt and that whore of Babylon nonsense.

    What exactly does whore of Babylon mean anyway????? Whore is singular, one person. So how can a 2,ooo year old organization with hundreds of billions of people over the centuries be one single whore????????? Explain that if you will holy roller. And Babylon. Babylon ceased to exist about 1,800 years ago. It has been a tumbledown ruin ever since. It was made of adobe brick, not stone or fired brick so nothing is left. No one has lived in Babylon for 1,800 years? So does a 3,000 year old whore live there? How does she earn a living with no customers around?????

    How has it been possible for this one person, the whore, to live for 3,000 years?

    Neither I nor any rational person has ever understood holy roller snake handler Israel worshippers calling the Catholic Church, a billion people with the greatest buildings on earth a single person, 3,000 old whore in a town that melted back into the desert 1,8000 years ago.

    And why call Popes the scarlet woman of Rome? Are you snake handling holy roller Israel worshippers not aware that Popes and Catholic priests are men? Why call them women. And what’s up with scarlet???? Human beings are various shades of White, cream, tan, brown rusty brown and black. There is not one ethnicity of humans whose skin is Scarlet, a bright, pure, red in case you don’t know.

    Really, I would truly appreciate how holy roller snake handler evolution denying Israel worshipping weirdos can call a 2,000 year old organization of tens of billions of people over the years a “whore” which is a singular word.

    Do you mean all Catholics are whores? Do you even know what a whore is? Do Catholic babies
    become whores when they are baptized? What does the Catholic church have to do with a town whose population left; whose buildings melted back into the desert centuries before Jesus was born?

    So please explain exactly what the Catholic church being the whore of Babylon means. Don’t obfuscate with rational anti Catholic things, just confine yourself to explaining how the Catholic Church can be a 3,000 year old person still thriving today.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Anon
  32. @alden @Chrismallory

    Of course anybody can sin at any time with any background whatsoever. But with the help of the sacraments, a person of a low state can be raised to the dignity of a king or queen by being a servant or handmaiden to the True King and his chosen Queen for All Eternity. It’s all about humility before God and docility to the sweet statutes of His Church. Something we have had in pure form only in certain blessed epochs and certain blessed locales. This is not one of them, lol. The 1950s were better, however:

    Dick and Margaret Ellen’s Catholic wedding

    Black Catholics gave their children saints names like Margaret Ellen instead of Laqueisha.
    Dick Ricketts went on to be head of personnel at Kodak and never committed a crime like today’s athletes despite earning far less money.

    A Catholic society would be “one where it is easier to be good” … in the words of Dorothy Day.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @renfro
  33. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Some historians date the Great Migration from around WWI, but others, including James Gregory at the U. of North Carolina, claim it can really be dated back to the turn of the century. It involved southern rural Blacks moving not just north, but also into the cities of the South.”

    This is the answer to the riddle. It was Separation that worked. What did not and does not work is cheek by jowl mixing of the races.

    Genetic Similarity is the watchword for peaceful social relations.

    The dissimilarity of today gets more and more apparent and urgent, and the result is impending civil war.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  34. Alden says:
    @Mark Presco

    Affirmative action was done by the WASPS President Lyndon Johnson, his VP Hubert Humphrey and most of all, by President Richard Nixon the Quaker and 3 men named Bloomrosen, Levy and Levine whom Nixon appointed to the EEOC.

    There weren’t any black Senators and very few black congress critters when the 1968 affirmative action civil rights act was passed. And very few women were in congress. It was all done by White men, mostly not Jews.

    And it was an all White, mostly protestant supreme court that sentenced hundreds of millions of White children to 12 years of horror with their decision in Brown vs Topeka 1956. And it was that minion of satan on earth, Justice Brennan White and probably a Catholic don’t know or care who penned those words words that made discrimination against Whites the law of the land: “Disproportionate representation is in and of itself clear and present evidence of discrimination” Griggs vs Duke Power.

    But of course, 20 years later when all the White government workers had retired or been driven out and Whites pointed out that some especially big city government departments are like 70 percent black, the justices refused to hear the cases. When 13 percent of the population holds 60 percent of the job, that’s not discrimination if they are black.

    Brown vs Topeka 1956 the supreme court led by that minion of satan, Earl Warren, Republican WASP
    ruled that it is against the 14th amendment and other constitutional rights the minions of Satan made up for that case for a black child to be assigned an all black school 10 blocks away from home when there is a White school nearer. Well, that seems reasonable. The supreme court has the aboslute power to make up any law it chooses and has had that power since 1804 when President Madison gave it to the supreme court of evil old men and women in black robes.

    But within ten years the minions of satan on the supreme court and in all the lower federal courts were decreeing that the 14th amendment and the constitution decreed that both black and White and all races of children get up at 5/am, walk to their neighborhood school be picked up by a bus at 6/30 and driven 80 miles to another school. Then reverse the process after school.

    a trillion dollars have been spent on school desegregation and full employment for black schooll bus drivers and those black infested big city school departments. Those school departments are nothing but full employment projects for black women.

    I’ve made a list of the anti White attorneys in all the school bussing and affirmative action cases. even as far back as the infamous Brown vs Topeka. In the case of Brown vs Topeka, all the attorneys but the black actor Thurgood Marshall were Jews. Even brown , the plaintiff wasn’t the little black girl who had to walk 10 blocks over railroad tracks to school. She was a Jew attorney. And Why, in the world the minions of satan who run the courts accepted an adult attorney as plaintiff for a grade school admission case, only satan can tell us.

    Has anyone ever heard of an attorney being both plaintiff and attorney for the plaintiff? Any lawyers on the site who can answer that. Adn if you read the jewish publications bragging about how they have destroyed the White goyim, you will learn that all the money since 1930 that resulted in Brown vs Topeka was donated by AJC, ADL and other jewish organizations.

    I don’t know why protestants keep yammering on about some prostitute who lived 3,000 years ago in Babylon and ignore the true evil done against the White goyim by the supreme court and lower federal courts.

  35. Alden says:

    Now, now, some of our greatest writers did stream of consciousness: James Joyce, jack Kerouac the crackhead, Faulkner, and many others. I like what she said.

  36. Truth says:

    Hey, how come you and Atila aren’t sisters-in-arms again. If she ain’t talking about black and Asian Cardinals, I can’t tell your posts apart!

    • Replies: @Alden
  37. Alden says:
    @Colleen Pater

    Absolutely true. Even the Jewish publications brag about how they took over the country in about 70 years, 1890 to 1960. It’s enough to make one believe in conspiracy theories!!! And what were the Powers That Be, the Colonel McCormicks and Duponts and Mellons and Millers and Newsomes and the rest of them doing during those years???? As far as I know, the only member of the elite that tried to fight them and didn’t get destroyed was Henry Ford 1 and Joe Kennedy.

    Perhaps by the time Jewish immigrants founded the communist party of America the Jews were already entrenched everywhere. FYI the language of the CPUSA was Yiddish because they were mostly immigrants who couldn’t speak English. Of course it was almost all Jews except for John Reed and his girlfriend. In 1930, Stalin realized why communism was not taking hold in America. First and foremost, the communists spoke Yiddish as the language of the party, not English. Second, almost all of them lived in Brooklyn and the Bronx of NYC.

    So Stalin decreed:

    1. The official language of the party, both spoken and written in publications be English, not Yiddish.

    2. That no more than 40 percent of the party be Jews. The party must find some Goyim

    3. The President of the party could not be a Jew. Tha’t why Gus Hall was CPUSA head for liek most of his life.

    4. Party headquarters must move to the heartland and stay away from NYC

    So the party moved to Chicago and I believe party headquarters is still downtown on State St.

    I do know Jews bought all the midwestern paper mills long before WW1. When the powerful McCormick newspaper, the Chicago Tribune began publishing isolationist news and editorials about WW! the jews told him that they owned the paper mills and if he didn’t go pro war against Germany all deliveries to his printers would stop. So he obeyed their orders.

    And if you look at the courts since 1940, they seem to be totally in control of the Jews. It’s a lot more than 90 percent Jew attorneys on the anti White side of the court cases. The judiciary seems to just be a branch of ADL and other Jewish organizations.

  38. utu says:
    @Father Coughlin

    A Catholic society would be “one where it is easier to be good” … in the words of Dorothy Day.

    Interesting observation. I think there is something to it.

    • Replies: @renfro
  39. Alden says:
    @Chris Mallory

    I wonder, have any Catholic women who are not prostitutes ever sued you snake handlers for calling catholics whores? What with law school being the default position of college grads who can’t find jobs and more and more legal research and briefs being done by software programs, There are fewer and fewer jobs for attorneys. Attorneys are always searching for new legal reasons to sue and make a living.

    I can foresee a great bonanza for attorneys finding Catholic women plaintiffs who are not prostitutes and suing the holy roller snake handlers who call Catholics whores.

    I can see the TV and bus bench ads now, in English Spanish, Cantonese, Mandarin, Tagalog and Lugano. Are you a woman?? Are you a Catholic? Are you not a whore?? The church of snake handler holy rollers calls you whores!!! Yes whores because simply because you are a Catholic!!!!!!

    So call this national number. Attorneys are standing by!!!!!! 1 800 not-whor!!!!!!

    Problem is, the snake handler holy rollers and their store front churches and falling down cabin churches don’t have any money.

    There must be some Catholic women who read this site. How do you feel about Chris Mallory calling you whores?

    Maybe I’ll convert and be the first plaintiff suing the holy roller snake handlers for calling me a Catholic whore.

    By the way Chris, if you are sued for calling a Catholic woman a whore, you only defense would be to prove she is in fact a whore which means you would have to find a criminal record for soliciting and prostitution.
    And since the plaintiff would be a Catholic but not a whore, you and all your fellow snake handling holy roller evolution denying Israel worshippers would lose.

    • Agree: utu
  40. MJJB says:

    Similar to what’s happening in Europe. Muslim migrants first welcomed, now not so much.

  41. Anonymous [AKA "Theordorus"] says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    First we need to remove the Jewish population, which works day & night agitating racial tensions and working against the Republic and architecting White genocide. The world knows that the Jews did 9/11. Time for them to leave.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  42. youp says:
    @jacques sheete

    totally agreed. India is the centerpiece of debt bondage but in many ways the entire middle class of the western world are debt slaves, if not directly at least in their name thru government debt.

  43. @jacques sheete


    In this Age of Delusions, one can only marvel at the long list of specifics:

    1. We can borrow our way to prosperity.
    2. Because industry needs people with ever-higher thinking abilities we can structure our schools so that No Child is Left Behind, everyone is a Lifelong Learner and everybody should go to college, even those who are profoundly cognitively disabled.

    If my wife’s 4th grade classes of recent years are any guide, the future Idiocracy is here, now, and it’s a majority among the skin-pigment challenged as much as anyone.

  44. renfro says:
    @Colleen Pater

    ” but they owned most of the businesses like department stores whose adverts were the life blood of newspapers that it was an oft complained fact ”

    Ownership of department stores was the result of the ‘carpet baggers’ that invaded the south after the civil war….this is also how many Jews came to own land…they would give ‘credit’ to black (and white) farmers buying supplies. The credit loan was secured by their farm land and paying the loan was expected when their crop was harvested and sold….if a farmer had a bad year and couldn’t pay his bill, the merchant foreclosed on their farm. You can find this in doing title searches in the south–particularly in the coastal states of NC, SC and GA.

    • Agree: Father Coughlin
    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
    , @Alden
  45. @Father Coughlin

    How you gonna keep blacks in their seats and their feet still during Mass?

    • LOL: Alden
    • Replies: @Jake
  46. “Segregation for me, but not for thee”, say the Rich Goys.

    ^We need to mock them about this constantly.

  47. Joe Wong says:

    Because the Black own black slaves therefore the White hunting down millions of black like animal all over Africa, shacked, thrown to terrible ships, brought to America and turned into slaves is not a crime; nor black women chained the middle of the fields, in devilish heat or cold, for those White to sexually relief themselves into them, at will, is not crime the White insists.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
  48. @Anonymous

    The 1st Great Migration of blacks fleeing the South began in the early 1920s following the arrival the Boll Weevil which drastically reduced the production of cotton.

  49. Olympus says:

    If every bleeding heart liberal moves his/her family to a ghetto and sends his/her precious progeny to a segregated school tomorrow there’d be no more segregation. Why don’t they do that? Because liberals are hypocrites who just want to sacrifice Other People’s Children, just like they’re only good at spending Other People’s Money. The same liberals who talk endlessly about racism, classism, segregation ad nauseam are always the ones making sure they send their kids to the whitest schools possible starting as early as possible. In SV, these hypocrite liberals are now even avoiding Asian kids, making up excuses like “too competitive” etc.

    There is only one kind of school liberal hypocrites want for their kids — one that is as white as possible, with a handful of token poor blacks on free rides to make them feel good about themselves.

  50. Olympus says:

    South Africa is the future of America, but instead of 90% black 10%white it’ll be 80% rainbow coalition 20% white, with the 80% probably consisting of 20% black, 40% hispanic, 20% Asian. Presently among our elementary school age children the split is about 50%/50%, with pockets of 90%/10% throughout. As Steve Sailer once pointed out we are running out of whites to integrate the rainbow coalition.

  51. Corvinus says:

    “Yeah, brutality and rape by the freed blacks on White women and children. One reason I have only watched gone with the wind once in my life is that scene when Scarlet is driving at night and a group of White guys stop her buggy and try to drag her out to be raped.”

    Red herring.

    “And her faithful black servant rescues her by driving the White would be rapists away. Right, never happened, it was the blacks who went on a rape rampage they havn’t stopped yet That’s why the ONLY, ONLY effective anti rape organization was founded after the civil war.That scene is like Grisham’s anti White propaganda book A Time to Kill. It’s based on a true rape but to get it published Grisham had to reverse the races.”

    Another red herring.

    “Who gives a F*** about your clip and paste wikepedia non research. 27 years a probation officer, I know who commits the crime, especially rape in this country.”

    The author submitted several statements without the proper historical context. You seem hell bent on one particular topic. Why is that, Mr. Probation Officer?

    “Liberals democrats and jews who read the mass media, people like you ,are naive fools.”

    I am a white American man who makes his own decisions about race and culture. Liberal Democrat? No. Jew? No.


    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  52. Corvinus says:

    “First we need to remove the Jewish population, which works day & night agitating racial tensions and working against the Republic and architecting White genocide. The world knows that the Jews did 9/11. Time for them to leave.”

    Why don’t you show everyone the way? Or are you that impotent to do anything about the situation?

    • Replies: @Alden
  53. renfro says:

    ” A Catholic society would be “one where it is easier to be good” … in the words of Dorothy Day.”

    Its been my observation as a southerner that ‘religious’ blacks—i.e…those very ‘church’ oriented are more civilized in values, law abiding or iow more like what we consider ‘good’ white communities to be.
    Unfortunately this is now more among the older blacks …their children/grandchildren aren’t so religiously inclined theses days.

    As far as affirmative action…I do think blacks needed a jump start so to speak to get into the main workforce…BUT…..making it a forever policy/entitlement is not a good idea.

    My town is an example…it was one of the main slave trading ports and has a 60% black population so when civil rights and AA came along the city and county gov bent over backwards hiring blacks for every city, county job. …as did the state and federal agency offices here….in state and fed offices you can hardly find a white person working in them…literally.
    However what their children will do in the future is a question….given the school drop out and drug problems among a significant number.

  54. renfro says:

    I think the ‘key’ in segregation and integration is whether or not it is “forced”.

    Clearly ‘forcing’ hasn’t and doesn’t work.

  55. @Demontage2000

    I am unwilling to blame Big Media. IMO they are a reflection of the prevailing dogma, not its source. I believe we continue with this grand experiment because, like many if not most things our government tries, it becomes its own end. We never give up on anything. “OK, it hasn’t worked yet, but let’s give it some more time and money. We’re Americans – we never quit”. Then you have the professional culture warriors from the cartoonish Sharpton to the long-winded Coates, and their opponents, all of whom would make a lot less money and be a lot less famous if this ever gets resolved.

    You blame it on the “Liberal Media”. Well, guess what – the occupation of Iraq, which Cheney and Rumsfeld said would last 6 months, is now in its 15th year. Are we fighting Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda In Iraq, the Taliban, ISIS, IS, Hamas? Which side are we arming in Syria? And when is that last time the Times or the Post published on Op-Ed entitled, “Iraq – Clusterfuck- Time to End It”? Establishment Media is the more accurate term.

    Our health “care” plan, concocted by the Heritage Foundation, is the same way. Down deep everyone knows it’s a disaster, but too many people have too much invested financially and emotionally to get an actual fix, even though the every other country in the world has a functioning system. All of the well-paid OP-Ed contributors probably have dinner with the insurance lobbyists, so you won’t see much criticism from the NYT.

    The “major” media is stoking it and making money off it, but not causing it.

    • Disagree: renfro
  56. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder whether the cause was not just the increase in negro numbers in the southern cities, but the types of negroes i.e. people not used to urban ways.

    Nicholas Lemann’s work on the Great Migration, The Promised Land covered this in depth.

    Among the migrants were the majority of some Black Southern high school classes. He followed one group in depth. He contrasted these with migrants from a strictly rural, sharecropping background. During the more robust periods of postwar expansion with a strong demand for workers, the former group did well. Those from a sharecropping background drifted into, and dominated the culture of the 60’s social programs — High Rise Public Housing and anti-poverty welfare entitlements.

    Lemann went so far as to notice that after two generations, the grandchildren of the Southern high school graduates were becoming acculturated into the disordered community life that had become dominated by the descendants of sharecroppers. It had proved difficult for the moderately successful first generation to sustain their gains in Northern cities.

    It is worth a look. Lemann is a liberal but not an idiot. It’s likely that his observations would fail current standards of political correctness and be considered a borderline hate crime.

    There was a substantial Black bourgeoise ethos that was destroyed. Perhaps it was inevitable, but if there is anything that Hollywood and the Entertainment Industry should feel deeply ashamed about, it is the aggressive promotion and marketing of hip hop culture. As Amy Wax has astutely noticed, academic elites have argued against privileging a bourgeoise work ethic, even though they uniformly practice it. In spite of posturing and LARPing, it is impossible to gain admittance to an elite college without it.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  57. @renfro

    I was thinking of the ones along fifth avenue and broadway in new york and towns throughout america but no doubt they did what you say in the south

  58. renfro says:
    @Father Coughlin

    I may be able to speak to the question of religion re blacks and whites due to my upbringing. My mother and grandmother became a catholic after her younger brother converted while at UNC whereas she and my father had both been Episcopalian.
    So to split in down the middle sometimes we went to mass at a small catholic church and other times to services at the Episcopal church….this probably wouldnt have worked ‘socially’ except for the fact that we lived in a town small enough that everyone was tolerant of everyone. Black people went to our catholic church that had less than probably 30 members and nothing was made of it, iow it wasn’t a big deal.

  59. @anonymous

    I have always wondered what on earth makes someone join the grammar police particularly men

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  60. Not sure why it seems to be a secret but our author has a blog called for those that can see, it should be considered one of the foundational blogs of the neoreactionary now schismed into alt right etc. Its a great blog every entry is so insanely well researched and documented that they last for days and teach you things you had no idea of.

  61. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The traditional metrics of segregation are counterproductive.

    Consider the superficial paradox: Diverse (and integrated) cities have segregated neighborhoods. Urban segregation is now economic rather than strictly racial. Redeveloped (or gentrified) neighborhoods tend to have small but not trivial black populations. Frequently 1/4 to 1/2 that of their proportion of the US as a whole.

    Poor black urban neighborhoods have virtually no white residents.

    Detroit has no white neighborhoods and no whites. Baltimore has maintained a few traditionally segregated neighborhoods and a moderate number of economically segregated neighborhoods.

    Baltimore is roughly 30% white. It is tacitly accepted that economic based segregation is the only alternative to total abandonment of the city by its minority white and tax paying residents.

    My personal experience is that counties or other political subdivisions adjacent to cities with large black populations maintain social order by enforcing law. Police, courts, and juries have the resources and will to arrest and sentence violent and/or series crime. There is simply no toleration of disorder.

    But the main point: Integration and diversity are the general rule in the US. But segregation of neighborhoods is consistent with current, highly diverse populations at the city and county level.

  62. Jake says:
    @Colleen Pater

    Is it good for the Jews? Most Jews seem to think so. Long term, those Jews are dead wrong. When Moslems get to a critical mass in the US, blacks will become Mohammedan in even larger numbers, and they will quickly start to demand the heads of Jews.

    But here is the central fact people like you refuse to see: Jews did not create the Negro as Numinous. Jews did not make Negroes into America’s sacred cows. Yankee WASPs did that. And those quintessential WASPs did so precisely to wage eternal culture war against ‘other’ whites: against all Catholics, especially the Irish, as well as against Scots-Irish southerners, and later against the Eastern Orthodox.

    The WASP Elites decided to use The Negro as weapons and tools to destroy non-WASP white political and cultural power. It is a purely WASP thing in origin.

    You cannot solve that problem while defending, excusing, maintaining the WASP culture that created it.

    • Replies: @Alden
  63. Jake says:
    @Carroll Price

    More and more, I agree. As I have aged and gotten to see more blacks from various areas and of varying educational achievements, I have come to conclusions along those lines.

    But I also know that the standard Late Antiquity/Dark Ages ‘Romance’ Catholic view of Germanics was similar. And rightly so. They saw Germanics as perpetually war-loving savages.

    And when Continental Germans finally had a couple of centuries of Latin Mass Catholicism, they began to add positively to Western Civilization.

  64. @Colleen Pater

    Colleen: I agree with qualifications. The evolutionary psychology of ethnic group behaviors, like that argued for by Kevin MacDonald, surely points to some truths. Nevertheless, I have known many ordinary, middle-class Americans with Jewish ethnic backgrounds who simply do not fit the stereotypes of the scheming global media conglomerate executive, or the scheming neo-Marxist race-baiter. And I have also had first-hand experience with Jews who do fit the latter two stereotypes. More importantly, there is the fine example of Mr. Stephen Miller, a key mind behind Trump’s most right-wing speeches, positions, and policy arguments for actively curbing 3rd-world immigration to America, for the first time in at least 50 years. He is the man who famously finally stood up in public against the imaginary ‘Statue of Liberty law’ assumed by the mushy heads in the elite media, that somehow demands there can never even be a reasonable discussion about quantitative limits to immigration. If Mr. Stephen Miller is one of the powerful Jews that concern you, I confess I welcome more of them.

    • Replies: @Colleen Pater
  65. anarchyst says:

    It turns out that those whites of the 1950’s (myself included) that protested against forced integration were right, all along…
    Blacks were doing much better when they had their own institutions, businesses, social organizations, residential areas, etc.
    It was communists and other society destroyers (the “chosen” and other northern-based “carpetbaggers”) who are directly responsible for our present racial and social ills.
    I grew up during the first “civil-rights” era and have a decidedly different “take” on this whole “civil-rights movement” era. In fact, I saw for myself, what went on during those turbulent times.
    Despite the lies and fabrications by the so-called “mainstream media” the “civil-rights marches” in the South were not peaceful “gatherings” that were met with dogs and fire hoses, but were violent black confrontations that actually set back the “cause” of TRUE “civil-rights”. .
    The so-called “civil-rights” demonstrations were waves of lawlessness that disrupted the lives of peaceful citizens. There were many black citizens in these areas that were against these “outsiders” coming there to cause trouble. These “civil-rights” marchers committed crimes, rapes, robberies and other crimes, and trashed the areas they were protesting in. I WAS THERE . . . Of course, the cameras were turned off during the episodes of violence. . .then just as now, the news media could not “let a crisis go to waste” . . .
    We used to have a saying: “Behind every Negro, there is a Jew”, as the white “civil-rights” handlers were predominantly New York-based Jews.
    It was mostly ACLU, $PLC and ADL types that riled things up. . .and then later on “melted into the woodwork” only to become “civil-rights” attorneys, race hustlers and poverty pimps.
    One incident comes to mind–the death of Mrs. Viola Liuzzo–Mrs. Liuzzo was a Detroit housewife who traveled to the “deep south” (without her husband) to run around with “freedom riders” at night–this was a recipe that was asking for trouble. What business did she have running around with blacks at night in the South while she had a family in Detroit?? Why did she put herself “in harms way”??
    I WAS THERE during the “civil-rights” disturbances and witnessed the misbehavior of these “civil-rights” groups (that never got reported). . .
    Of course, the “victors” write the history. To the victors–how does it feel now that those you pushed and supported are now turning on you??
    The so-called “news media” had an agenda then as it does now. White-on black crime (although relatively rare) is ALWAYS described as a “hate crime” where as black-on-white crime is NEVER described as a “hate crime”. . .Actually, ALL crimes are “hate crimes” . . .

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  66. @Colleen Pater

    It’s a fall-back position for trolls (especially hasbara trolls like anonymous) who can’t come up with anything else.

    • Replies: @Dave
  67. Alden says:

    I know what I know and I don’t get my information from Mr Google as you do. I don’t have to prove anything to you with some may or may not be true wikepedia citation Rent gone with the wind and you can see the race reversal scene. And I’m not a mister

    Go wallow in your wikepedia ignorance.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  68. Truth says:

    Blacks were doing much better when they had their own institutions, businesses, social organizations, residential areas, etc.

    Yes, but WHITES weren’t doing better when blacks were giving each other their money…

    Do you not get it?!?!?!? DO YOU NOT GET IT?!?!?!

    Dudes, it really isn’t that incredibly complicated. Black people having their own business, institutions, etc. WAS BAD FOR WHITE PEOPLE’S BUSINESS. That’s why it ended. You see buddy, there are two races in this country,

    1. White people (including Khazars) with loads of money who grew up in Masonic Orders.

    2. Everyone else.

    Let me put it to you in a little more urban way; things are the way they are, and are becoming the way they are becoming, because you, your friends, and these mouthpieces who write for this site: Ain’t shit.

    Man, with all of these Harvard PhD’s here you would not think this would be so difficult to discern.

  69. Corvinus says:

    “It turns out that those whites of the 1950’s (myself included) that protested against forced integration were right, all along…”

    No, it still remains you are dead wrong.

    “Blacks were doing much better when they had their own institutions, businesses, social organizations, residential areas, etc.”

    Except Jim Crow laws prevented them from organizing those things in a way that would further their political and economic self-interests, especially if it led to competition with whites.

    “It was communists and other society destroyers (the “chosen” and other northern-based “carpetbaggers”) who are directly responsible for our present racial and social ills.”

    No, it was southrons, not white southerners. There is a difference.

    “Despite the lies and fabrications by the so-called “mainstream media” the “civil-rights marches” in the South were not peaceful “gatherings” that were met with dogs and fire hoses, but were violent black confrontations that actually set back the “cause” of TRUE “civil-rights”. ”

    Talk about Fake News. The violence had resulted when the southron police force used brute force to disrupt otherwise peaceful gatherings.

    “These “civil-rights” marchers committed crimes, rapes, robberies and other crimes, and trashed the areas they were protesting in. I WAS THERE . . . Of course, the cameras were turned off during the episodes of violence. . .then just as now, the news media could not “let a crisis go to waste” . . .
    We used to have a saying: “Behind every Negro, there is a Jew”, as the white “civil-rights” handlers were predominantly New York-based Jews.”

    You are delusional.

    “Of course, the “victors” write the history. To the victors–how does it feel now that those you pushed and supported are now turning on you??”

    We are (still) winning.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  70. Dave says:
    @Carroll Price

    No. It’s the fall back position for people who respect the English language and believe proper grammar, punctuation and spelling help support whatever point the commenter is trying to make.
    Colleen Pater’s comments look like the ravings of a lunatic because he or she is too undisciplined to apply rules all of us should have learned in grade school.

  71. Alden says:

    That might explain why the WASP elites caved into Jews in just 50 years.

    Or maybe it was a split the immigrants and get them fighting strategy. I’m sure all those WASP men congress critters, senators, Presidents and VPs who inflicted affirmative action on the rest of us, never thought it would affect their own grandchildren.

    But it has. Families rise and fall and even the descendants of the 1970’s elites will fall after a few generations of affirmative action

    An excellent example of what affirmative action does to the affirmed against population is what heppened to the native Catholic Irish after England took over around 1600.
    The natives were banned from all the skilled trades and most occupations except the practice of law although they couldn’t be judges. They were forbidden to have schools so they home schooled and hired hedge teachers.

    They couldn’t live within miles of the sea, rivers or lakes so they couldn’t fish. They couldn’t own a stud bull. They couldn’t own more than one horse and it had to be low value. No more than 2 cows or 5 pigs. The livestock restrictions meant they could not build up their herds through natural increase. So they could not be stock farmers and breeders.

    American affirmative action and mud people immigration will do to us as the English did to the Irish and the Hindus did to the untouchables.

    India reversed discrimination. So now all the smart people of the upper and middle castes come to America on H1 B visas.

    And American STEM people lose their jobs because of Indians fleeing discrimination in favor of former untouchables, ( Dalits) in India.

    Just had a thought. Instead of calling ourselves WASPs or founding stock let’s call ourselves AAP affirmed against people.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  72. @Demontage2000

    [It’s rather bad form for commenters not to make little effort to provide good spacing, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation for their text, and such laziness seemingly irritates other commenters. If you continue doing this, a good many of your comments will probably get trashed henceforth and you’ll have wasted all your time spent writing them. So you should probably change your ways.]

    No as far as I have seen Miller is an excellent example of that rare thing a fully assimilated jew. Im not a neo nazi or even an anti semite in the emotional sense, Im a native new yorker so a high percentage of my friends are jews and I could write all about why I like the jewyness of so many jews. But of course this has also allowed me to get to know them very well, and the sad but undeniable fact is very very very few are not basically traitors. Now of course we can discern a differences between say the soros type or his correlatives in the zionist side, or old school communist like Kristol or Wise that are actually consciously working towards the destruction or subjugation of whites. And the average lefty jew that thinks of themselves as both victim of whites and champion of non whites. While these do not quite understand what they are doing, or rather think what they are doing is noble, they are none the less analogous to a white nationalist with the difference that the white nationalist is defending his own nation from outsiders meaning it harm and the lefty jew is an enemy mole or combatant.Maybe worse is the type I quote that wrote the article, they claim to get conservatism, don’t buy into the oppression narrative and other leftists scare tactics , and would say they do not think all whites are secretly nazis, But yet there he writes exactly that that jews need multiculturalism as a defense against the secret naz tactics of whites. It not clear which is worse that 1/8 jews can still be identifying as jews first or that they do this in the belief of perpetual white oppression. They’re in a psychotic trap where their paranoia and behavior to not live in their own land and not assimilate in others but rather use their prodigious talent s instead to attempt to control their adopted nations to feel more secure is the cause they are repeatedly asked to leave and which request they then use to support the behavior continuing, They had a perfect chance in america to break the cycle and did not in fact doubled down in the most deadly genocidal effort yet.

    I know what you mean we could name quite a few ultra conservative jews even neoreactionary and alt right jews. maybe they are a sign things are changing, Im skeptical I find even guys like Horowitz the neocons we all probably liked for a while in the early 90s even rothbard and others you always still find this special exception they make for themselves, you never see they have forgotten they are a jew, or completely abandoned the victim complex or find absurd whites could care less about their slightly different DNA and cousin religion.In fact quite the majority are like my neighbor who told me proudly she moved away from her old neighborhood because there were too many white people, and a few minutes later when I used goldman sachs as an example of the globalist corporatism heard it as the rothschilds are head of the elders of zion.

    But i think theres an even bigger problem the first is its simply unacceptable for we europeans to allow jews to rule us simply because theyre a bit smarter and we can convince ourselves they are not actually a different people, I dont think IQ is the only reasons europeans have succeeded, nor is it honorable to be subjugated. Perhaps worse, its sets a precedent doe east asians to also rule us and their are a lot more of them than us. we europeans over the past 100 years have allowed jews to instill a false consciousness in us that simply wanting to be left alone and have nations of our own is a violence against those who wish to colonize our pleasant nations. This is patently absurd. I am not a hateful person I simply have realized it not working out, im just not that into all these others, i just want some space, please leave now, what part of its over dont you understand Im calling the police if you dont get out now

  73. White People need Safe Space from blacks for reasons of BAMMAMA, or blacks are more muscular and more aggressive.

    White Manhood needs Safe Space from blacks because tougher black males will destroy white pride and Jungle Fever will lead to ACOWW, or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs, a genocide of white race via bio-colonization or womb-colonization(like what happened to the natives of the Americas under Spanish Conquest).

    • Replies: @Alden
  74. anarchyst says:

    I see the hasbara trolls are out in force, today…

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  75. anarchyst says:

    There are 40 or so congresscritters who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. Their loyalty to the USA is in question…

  76. woodNfish says:
    @Joe Wong

    Eat shit and die you yellow lying dog! Why don’t you do a little navel gazing at current slavery in Asia you ignorant POS? Your jealousy of everything the white man has given you is showing, ingrate, including that computer you are using, the electricity to operate it, and the network to comment over. Yes, we white people are better than you. Deal with it!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Alden
  77. Corvinus says:

    “I know what I know…”

    Which isn’t that much.

    “and I don’t get my information from Mr Google as you do.”

    I found the original article from July 2017. I read the comments section. A poster named “Yankee Imperialist” offered a series of cogent rebuttals. I copied and pasted them and gave credit to this person. Do you know what the word ‘cogent’ means?

    “I don’t have to prove anything to you with some may or may not be true wikepedia citation.”

    It’s more than “wikipedia citations”. It is clear that the information gleaned from YI is based on historical research. Do you know what the word ‘gleaned” means?

    “Go wallow in your wikepedia ignorance.”

    Clearly you lack the intellectual horsepower to address YI’s response.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
    , @Alden
  78. Corvinus says:

    I see that you are still afflicted with Jooitis. Everyone is a Jew to you, even your own mother.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  79. @Colleen Pater

    Maybe worse is the type I quote that wrote the article, they claim to get conservatism, don’t buy into the oppression narrative and other leftists scare tactics , and would say they do not think all whites are secretly nazis, But yet there he writes exactly that that jews need multiculturalism as a defense against the secret naz tactics of whites.

    Which writer and article are you referring to in this part of your Comment?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  80. anarchyst says:

    …not at all…just pointing out the TRUTH…for you, hasbara

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  81. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks, really. With non-believers like you, who needs believers? I will copy and send it to our nice multi-culti Pope so he can better choose his atheist friends.

    • Replies: @Alden
  82. Corvinus says:

    How bad is your affliction? Anyone and everyone who remotely opposes your position is labeled a Jew. No evidence required on your part. And, certainly, no critical thinking necessary from you. It’s not truth on your part, but deception and deceit.

  83. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Good question. But be prepared in lieu of an intelligible response to be attacked as a “hasbara troll” or brushed aside as a member of the “grammar police.”

    Louts, serial obsessives, and pointless hydrant markers seem to be more prevalent as Unz Review becomes more widely read. Whatever their various intentions, they all discredit this outstanding site.

    Our host might need to demonstrate that he’s serious about what’s expected of those enjoying the privilege of participating as commenters.

  84. iThink says:
    @Colleen Pater

    Behind every angry/entitled/welfare-seeking/criminal/uneducated/crack addict/alcoholic/child abandoning/single-parenting/unemployed/lazy/blame-seeking/racist/general-loser black there is a Jew. Blacks who have their acts together like Thomas Sowell, Jason Riley, Ben Carson succeed because they’re smart enough to see through the Jews liberal lies and think for themselves. Sadly they represent <1% of all blacks. The rest are either apathetic or bought into the victimhood narrative wholesale because they are completely incapable of thinking for themselves.

  85. iThink says:

    Blacks aren’t the only ones who ruin neighborhoods, though they are the worst. Asians do the same. Only Asians can buy into million dollar homes then completely let them go. They don’t take care of their yards, clean the roof, gutters, power wash the driveway or paint the house/fence. It’s always easy to identify which homes are occupied by Asians in a middle/upper middle class neighborhood, 9 out of 10 of those homes with the shittiest yards, roofs, drive ways, paint jobs are occupied by Asians, be they Chinese, Indian or Muslim. Doesn’t matter if they have PhD’s or live in million dollar homes, they still live like trailer trash.

    • Replies: @Alden
  86. Corvinus says:

    “Yes, we white people are better than you. Deal with it!”

    So how do you rectify your comment in light of “None is righteous”, as written by the apostle Paul in Romans 3:10?

    • Replies: @Alden
  87. @Colleen Pater

    [Well, your numerous comments generally seem like sub-literate, content-free ranting. I suppose the content-free ranting might be barely acceptable, but the combination with sub-literacy probably pushes things over the line. So only a fraction of your comments will henceforth be published, until you mend your ways or decide to give up and go away.]

    [It’s rather bad form for commenters not to make little effort to provide good spacing, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation for their text, and such laziness seemingly irritates other commenters. If you continue doing this, a good many of your comments will probably get trashed henceforth and you’ll have wasted all your time spent writing them. So you should probably change your ways.]

    Its your blog so do as you wish. I notice the only people that actually object also object to what I am saying. You seem to assume Its on purpose which doesnt really make sense if you think abut it, I do edit and that the result the truth is im a high Iq person born before keyboards and have only 8 grades of schooling and have never worked in an occupation requiring writing so while i read prodigiously i cant write well or type.Im sure i spend ten times the time to write something than most. youre free to police grammer on your blog i would think it better policy to let readers skip something they find not worth their time. I think my unusual circumstances of life actually give me a perspective you yuppies dont have but whatever, just please let me know if youre trashing my comments so i can stop making them

    • Replies: @Alden
  88. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Excellent article. I confess I was ignorant of much of this. But I am disappointed that the author doesn’t try to explain WHY segregation and racial animosity surged at the turn of the century. What is it about blacks arriving in large cities that changed opinions? Competition with whites? Deterioration in black behavior brought on by exposure to alcohol or demographic concentration? Any ideas?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Sin City Milla
  89. Corvinus says:

    “Excellent article. I confess I was ignorant of much of this.”

    The article is other than excellent, as Yankee Imperialist pointed out.

    “But I am disappointed that the author doesn’t try to explain WHY segregation and racial animosity surged at the turn of the century.”

    It’s really simple–one group of people was programmed to believe that another group of people was inferior, since that group had been enslaved, uneducated, and generally left to fend for themselves.

    • Replies: @Alden
  90. Dr. Doom says:

    The Devil’s Children must remove the eyes of the law from themselves. Their vampiric nature and parasitic existence doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny. Without disorder and another larger criminal class, they are quickly found out and killed by the population. This little coward needs to hide. It is too weak and cowardly to stand up for itself. By causing misrule and disorder, only then can this rat ply its vile trades in sin and vice. Everything bad in the world goes back to them. The Devil’s own children.

  91. Alden says:

    Just standing in line in any store it’s posturing and jabbering and “look at me, look at me, look at me”
    while every one else White, asian, hispanic, middle eastern just stands quietly in line.

  92. Alden says:

    Not at all.

    Group N became more and more criminal as well as being extremely noisy and unpleasant to be around. Group W decided to keep away from the crime and screeching and jabbering of Group N

    True story . I raised my kids in a White section of a big city. They and most of the kids in the neighborhood went to all White private schools using the city buses where they encountered and observed all sorts of people, including the screeching jabberers.

    They and their friends liked to do home work in our dining room. One day during the MLK worship month* i over hear this conversation.

    Kippy “Listen to this, they used to have to sit in the back of the bus.”

    Trey “What a good idea”

    Barbara “Can we have that here”?

    I myself never said a word about my opinions about blacks to my or any other kids. But simply from riding buses with black kids and adults they learned all about blacks and how unpleasant and noisy they are.

    Why don’t your start riding big city buses and subways every day for just one month and see how blacks behave.

    But your are a Jew with your DNA encoded to believe the Jewish propaganda pumped into your empty head. Even the former Brooklyn and Bronx Jewish baby boomers whose parents were driven out of NYC and other cities by black criminality and terrorism just worship blacks because they are Jews and Jew propaganda central decrees this worship of Jews.

    For a people who are supposed to be so smart, jews sure don’t think for themselves. And they sure can’t use the scientific method: observe and draw a conclusion from the observations. Jews just believe what they are told by other Jews.

    The reason blacks, democrats and liberals selected February as black fake history month is because Michael King was born in January. That way the black worship month can stretch from the first week of January to about the middle of March with January being the month of Michael King and February and the first half of March devoted to a generalized black worship 6 weeks. Sort of like Lent in Christianity.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @dc.sunsets
  93. Alden says:
    @Colleen Pater

    Just make a double space every 4 or 5 sentences and the comment will be easy to read. Computer screens aren’t as easy to read as books which is why paragraphs are appreciated. The rules of grammar are taught in 5 to 8th grade. So high school is not necessary necessary for acceptable grammar.

    And for all you critics, some of our greatest writers, James Joyce, Jack Kerouac, William Faulkner and a great many 20 th century writers employed the stream of consciousness method Colleeen uses and they became famous best selling authors.

  94. Alden says:

    You mean that book of fables and myths?

  95. Alden says:

    Asians can afford 3 million dollar homes because there are usually 30 of them in each house. And they don’t like trees because trees prevent the good spirits from getting into the house. So they cut down the street trees. The city passes a law that only city tree workers can cut down trees on private or public property. So the Chinese sneak out at night and pour a couple gallons of pesticide around the tree and after a few years it dies and has to be removed.

    I know a woman whose neighbors waited until they went away for a week and cut down 2 glorious huge magnolia trees in her front yard because devils live in trees as well as trees blocking good spirits.

    One thing all the developers, builders and city planners of 19th and 20th century America got right, street planting. Those glorious old allees of trees really make a neighborhood. And even the environmentalists like them because the more trees, the more shade thus less air conditioning and trees breathe in carbon dioxide and breathe out oxygen.

    There are miles and miles of 2 and 3 1,2000 to 1,500 ft homes with 30 Chinese living in the house and garage. It’s a total violation of building and health and safety codes. But as long as non Whites do it, it is perfectly ok

    The filth is Chinese. Japanese are ultra clean and tidy. Koreans are in between. Poor Vietnamese and Thailanders are untidy but not as bad as the Chinese.

  96. Alden says:

    Smart thing the one holy Roman Catholic Church did was elect leaders who were old and had only 20 years at most to reign. So it took a few years to get going with the Popes program, a few years while it was in force and then he died.

    How old is this one 80? So it’s only a few more years. But who knows what commie muslim immigration enthusiast is lurking to be elected next.

    I am a lookist. I like beautiful people and things. And Catholic art and music are the 2 main glories of European civilization.

    The best thing the Catholic Church contributed to European civilization was the concept of separation of Church and State. The Pope vs Kings and the Emperor, Dukes and Princes vs Cardinals and Bishops, right down to the local squire and businessmen vs the Parish Priest. The Church had its sphere and the state had its sphere.

    Then Anne Boleyn gave crazy Henry 8 a book titled “The Duty of a Christian Prince and his People.” That book, by some prominent Lutheran was that the King should choose the religion of the country and the religious practices such as decoration of the church, music or not, sung music or instrument music.

    Early protestantism was a total repudiation of the old Catholic idea of separation of Church and State each with its own sphere. The early protestants wanted Church and state to become one, as in the time of Henry 8, Oliver Cromwell and the Puritan colonies and later states in America.

    I don’t go so far as Bnai Brith which proudly claims that Martin Luther was a tool of the Jews. But I firmly believe that the reformation dive into the violence, sadism, sex and pornography of the Jewish part of the bible and rejection of the goody goody Christian part of the bible began the rise of Jews to the power they have today.

    Last but not least. The One Holy Roman Catholic Church never joined the protestant World Council of Churches.
    The Vatican Intelligence Service learned early on that the World Council of Churches was a soviet union front.

    After the cold war ended soviet archives revealed that the protestant World Council of Churches which every protestant and orthodox Church joined was indeed a soviet created front group.

  97. Alden says:

    Yes, I know what “cogent” means and a Stanford cum laude doesn’t need to answer to anyone.

    I am a White Nationalist, not a conservative. I know what I know and don’t have time to walk over to the UCLA library or drive 400 miles to the Stanford library to look up books I read decades ago.

    Most of what I post is my own life experience anyway, such as my comment on this thread about how the Chinese destroy street trees and trees on other people’s private property because devils live in tees and prevent good spirits from getting into the house.

    Some people have had a long and varied life experience . Some people have had access to great libraries since 18 and access to a home library of thousands of books since childhood. Most of what I post is what I know.

    I have no need to ask Mr google about the things about which I post. You may have noticed I never post about engineering and statistics or professional sports because I know nothing about those things.

    And I really, really, reallly don’t care what you ignorant internet scholars think of my posts. Only reason i am responding to you is because I am sitting in an airport with nothing else to do.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  98. Alden says:

    So you don’t even ask Mr google to show you a wikepedia article??????

    You just copy and paste other people’s arguments from4 months ago????????

    Are you flat on your back in a nursing home you have so much time to re read UNZ???

    If not, get a life.

  99. Alden says:

    I tried to use ESAD as my email. But it wasn’t accepted by several email companies.

    If one wants to look at Asian slaves, just come to San Francisco and with a little help from a knowledgeable cop or social worker one can see actual Chinese slaves working in sweatshops, restaurants and brothels owned by other Chinese. A navy nuke nephew saw slaves in cages in Thailand.

    I don’t think Joe Wong is Chinese. If he is, he is probably a 4th generation American Chinese. Most Chinese recently arrived from the People’s Republic are very aware of the slavery and work camps and would not write about slavery since it is too close to home.

  100. Corvinus says:

    “I myself never said a word about my opinions about blacks to my or any other kids. But simply from riding buses with black kids and adults they learned all about blacks and how unpleasant and noisy they are.”

    An anecdotal story does not mean that it is a truism.

    “Why don’t your start riding big city buses and subways every day for just one month and see how blacks behave.”

    How PEOPLE behave.

    “But your are a Jew…”

    See, you must call out everyone who opposes your line of thinking as a Jew because it fits your narrative. You do not have a shred of concrete evidence, just a shot in the dark. As I have stated before, I am of German, Polish, and Dutch descent. No Jewish blood in me. But if it makes you feel better about yourself, go right ahead.

  101. Corvinus says:

    “Yes, I know what “cogent” means and a Stanford cum laude doesn’t need to answer to anyone.”

    Prove it.

    “I am a White Nationalist, not a conservative. I know what I know and don’t have time to walk over to the UCLA library or drive 400 miles to the Stanford library to look up books I read decades ago.”

    Yes, that’s right, speaking about books. You had made this claim earlier–“I’ve read hundreds of thousands of history books in my life time.”

    One could assume that besides history books, you have read non-history books. I gather you are retired. So, for fun, let us assume that you are 80 years old AND you began reading at age 4 since you were a prodigy. 76 x 365 = 27740 days of your life. Let us now assume you read 200000 HISTORY books, since that was YOUR claim. 200000 divided by 27740 = 7.20. So, your average number of books a day is 7.

    Considering that the average number of books people read over the course of a year is 12…

    For the sake of argument, let us say the books you read averaged 100 pages, which would be on the low end. That would be 700 pages to read in a day. Consider that the average reading speed is 200-250 words a minute for non-technical material, (roughly 2 minutes per page). But assuming you were that prodigy, I will grant you for non-technical AND technical material, you would average 1 page in two minutes and meaningfully comprehend the information. That would mean 30 pages in 60 minutes/1 hour.

    Do you see where the math is leading us? Had you stated that you read thousands of history books in your lifetime, while highly unlikely, at least this possibility is more digestible than your claim of reading hundreds of thousands of history books.

    Maybe you should be in contact with this lady…

    Are you ready to retract your claim that you read “hundreds of thousands of books”?

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  102. Alden says:

    As I’ve posted before, I subscribed to an attorney data base for the state cases and sat down at the computers in the federal courthouse. And I looked at the attorney list attached to every anti White lawsuit since Brown vs Topeka 1956.

    On the anti White side, more than 90 percent obviously Jewish names. And I didn’t even count names like Kaufman and Becker that could be German. On the pro White side, almost no Jewish names, but a mix of the different of ethnic groups that make up the White goyim of America.

    I already knew that the federally funded criminal rights and criminal rehab organizations I had to fight against to send the criminals to prison were young Jew attorneys. But until I got into those data bases, I didn’t know how totally Jewish the anti White side of all the affirmative action and school desegregation lawsuits was. Amazingly Jewish.

    And it was Jews, not WASPS who lived in the big city neighborhoods that were destroyed by school busing. And it was Jews that from the 1920s to 1968 were in favor of merit especially written test hiring. But then propaganda central turned on the faucet and filled their empty brains with affirmative action propaganda.

    I can only surmise that from 1920 to 1970 there were middle class Jews who benefited from the merit application system. But most of the Jews I know are middle class and so are their children. Maybe middle class jews are more committed to religious/ethnic interest than class interest.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  103. Alden says:
    @Priss Factor

    Do you watch a lot of football and boxing? Is that where you got your impression that blacks are so big and strong and macho? Granted they are bigger than the average Hispanic or Asian, but most are no bigger than the average White man.

    They are bullies and all you have to do is stand up to them and they will back down. If they are so big and macho why did they let smaller White and Hispanic men and women put them in prison??? If they are so big and macho why do they live on their children’s and women’s welfare and in the women’s welfare apartments???? That is not a mensch or manly or macho. It is the behavior of a loser.

    When one of my son’s was 17 he heard someone yell “hey kid, watch out” He looked and 3* black guys were on him. He kicked one in the stomach and put him on the ground. He broke the nose of another and the third one fled. Dad and Grandpa taught him how to fight. I kept telling him that blacks are cowards and bullies and that any White boy can fight off 3 black boys.

    * 3 blacks both men and women, a standard mugging team.

  104. Alden says:

    There are a lot of Alzheimer Disease clinical trails around. You could make some money as a test subject. The medication might even do you some good.

  105. Alden says:

    27 years a probation officer, I still know more about who commits crime than you do. never more than 10 percent of the population, usually a bit less and almost all the criminals in the county were black, like about 95 percent and since I had the rape caseload, I can tell you, every rapist in that county was black for all those years.

    Only Jews and liberal democrats love black criminals. Every word you post is proof you are a liberal, a democrat and a jew.

    I only post about my life experience and what I know. I had a black rapist caseload for 27 years. I read the statistics about black rapists from the law enforcement websites. I know Grisham’s Time To Kill was based on a black on White rape. I know Grisham had to reverse the races to a White on black rape to get his book published.

    I saw Gone With The Wind. That scene in which White men tried to rape Scarlett and she was saved by her faithful black servant was totally bogus. It was and is black men who rape.

    Keep blathering on about your New Republic and The Atlantic and the rest of the liberal jew democrat propaganda. It’s false and everyone who knows about crime knows it. Your brain is an empty sink filled with liberal propaganda.

  106. Alden says:

    Read mark Twain’s ” Life on the Mississippi” It’s in 2 sections. First is 1840s when he was a young river pilot. Second is 1880’s to write about the changes. He wrote some chapters about ow the Jewish merchants went south after the civil war to cheat the blacks.

    Some White leadership types wanted to start a co-op type chain of stores for everyone. It never got off the ground. Twain was there in the 1880’s. Read the book.

    Maybe Corvinus could read it too. That is, if he can read 4th grade level.

  107. Alden says:

    Watch Gone With The Wind. Read A TimeTo Kill. The movie the attempted rapists and the rescuer had the races reversed. A Time to Kill was based on a trial Grisham sat in on and observed. In the trail, 2 little White girls were horribly raped and beaten by black men. To get his book published , Grisham made it 1 little black girl and 2 White men rapists.

    Total reversal on both sides. As both law enforcement and a woman I am against rape. If most rapists I sent ot prison over the vehement objections of Jewish feminazi community organizers, are black men, then I am against blacks.

  108. woodNfish says:

    No way to tell ethnicity over the internet, Alden. The Asian slaves in San Francisco do not surprise me. I think a lot of foreigners in this country have slaves. You hear of them escaping to the police now and then in NYC. Most Americans think slavery is a thing of the past, but most Americans also believe all the propaganda they are fed every day. It becomes very difficult to discern the truth.

  109. Corvinus says:

    “As I’ve posted before, I subscribed to an attorney data base for the state cases and sat down at the computers in the federal courthouse. And I looked at the attorney list attached to every anti White lawsuit since Brown vs Topeka 1956.”

    Well, to prove your claim, you are going to have to define “anti-white lawsuit”. Next, you will have to offer an estimate of how many cases you perused. Then, you will have to name those attorneys. You have ALOT of work to do.

    I don’t know how much time you would have on your hands, considering you made the claim that you read “hundreds of thousands of books” in your lifetime. Are you going to own up to the fact that you simply overexaggerated?

    “Every word you post is proof you are a liberal, a democrat and a jew.”

    That would be your opinion, not fact. You would have to provide specific evidence to prove your assertion. Otherwise, all you have is wild speculation. Are you young going to own up to the fact that you are mistaken?

    “27 years a probation officer, I still know more about who commits crime than you do.”

    Considering that you worked with a SUBSET of a specific population, it is other than surprising that you would harbor resentment and hostility towards this group. But most black people are law abiding citizens.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  110. @Corvinus

    That’s an awful lot of wasted breath over a typo. ‘or’ not ‘of’.

  111. @Anon

    Good questions. Segregation in public is a rarity in history n rarely lasts whether in Islamic societies (Jews forced to wear stars) or modern apartheid. But segregation in private between significantly different ethnic groups reigns supreme thruout history n no amount of external intervention has ever done much to change this, on the contrary it typically just throws a match into the tinder box.

    I think much of the problem today is that so much of the popular media is controlled by Jews with a radical leftist agenda that this has the effect of constantly throwing matches in a California forest. Their agenda disregards race realism n is like forcing Rakhine Muslims n Burmese Buddhists to mix together. Or Turks n Armenians.

    Even conservative radio is largely populated with Jews, not to mention DC swarming with Neocons, n the Supreme Court n Congress n the Fed. It doesn’t require a conspiracy addict to reasonably conclude that race relations in the US must therefore be largely a function of what the stratum of Jews wish them to be, rather than reflexively blaming ‘racist’ poor whites who have almost no media voice.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  112. @Alden

    Don’t waste your time.

    Corrie is a blank-slater who thinks everyone is the same under Holy Homogeneous Diversity.

    It never occurs to Corrie that some people have talents/culture/behaviors that other people don’t want surrounding them. To Corrie, if you like quiet, too bad so sad if you’re surrounded by people who love loud noise.

    After all, it’s just “people.”

    I do, however, share your LOL at such virtue-signaling hypocrisy. Near where I live groups of black thugs as young as 15 are shooting at each other from cars driving all over town. You and I both know that Corrie wouldn’t invite those thugs into HER home (so she could love and rehabilitate them) but she’ll support letting them practice their “trade” in your neighborhood.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  113. @Corvinus

    But most black people are law abiding citizens.

    This is true.
    What do you think happens when the subset of black people who are violent criminals are invited to spread chaos, violence, maiming and death by a constant refrain of “b-b-b-b-b-but it’s racisss to stop and frisk young black men congregating on streetcorners.”

    The ACLU got this kind of thing stopped in Chicago, and blacks are dying at much higher rates than before.

    Does that not trouble you?

    Would you prefer to spread those who do those things into peaceful neighborhoods?

  114. Corvinus says:
    @Sin City Milla

    “I think much of the problem today is that so much of the popular media is controlled by Jews with a radical leftist agenda that this has the effect of constantly throwing matches in a California forest.”

    Thank you very much for your opinion on this matter.

    “It doesn’t require a conspiracy addict to reasonably conclude that race relations in the US must therefore be largely a function of what the stratum of Jews wish them to be, rather than reflexively blaming ‘racist’ poor whites who have almost no media voice.”

    [Sigh] another Jooish conspiracy theorist. This blog is littered with your type.

  115. Corvinus says:

    “You and I both know that Corrie wouldn’t invite those thugs into HER home (so she could love and rehabilitate them) but she’ll support letting them practice their “trade” in your neighborhood.”

    HIS home, ma’am. And you are correct, few, if any people, would invite anyone who is deemed dangerous into their domiciles. So you really aren’t making any substantial point here.

    “It never occurs to Corrie that some people have talents/culture/behaviors that other people don’t want surrounding them.”

    Of course it occurs to me. All of the time. Exactly why people have the liberty in our nation to live where they want and near who they want. There are a number of exclusive white areas to choose from.

    “What do you think happens when the subset of black people who are violent criminals are invited to spread chaos, violence, maiming and death by a constant refrain of “b-b-b-b-b-but it’s racisss to stop and frisk young black men congregating on streetcorners.”

    I completely understand the dilemma here–it comes down what constitutes a reasonable amount of suspicion AND probable cause for the police to stop a group of people.

    “The ACLU got this kind of thing stopped in Chicago, and blacks are dying at much higher rates than before.”

    Assuming there is a direct cause and effect relationship here. One could speculate.

  116. Uslabor says:

    So some blacks benefitted from slavery.

    So does that make slavery okay?

  117. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    General note to all posters: please break large posts into paragraphs. Parsing large blocks of undifferentiated text is physically tiring.

  118. @Corvinus

    The problem, as I see it, is that you, along with author M.G. Miles, both refer to a “Civil War”. By definition, a civil war is a war between factions to control a government. There was no Civil War, because the Confederacy seceded, only to be invaded by the Union.

    Let’s face it, Lincoln was assassinated to prevent him from repatriating Blacks to Africa, or shipping them to South America. The laws to which you refer, as well as the Jim Crow Laws were designed to create a problem, not solve one. Given their druthers, the overwhelming majority of people want to associate with people like themselves, laws or not.

  119. @Alden

    your observations have been mine as well…

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