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When the Justice Department announced its investigation into Harvard’s possible racial discrimination against Asians, almost on cue the usual suspects came forth with all-too familiar rhetoric on affirmation action. For liberals it was all about keeping our cherished diversity or helping the disadvantaged; conservatives meanwhile lectured on merit-based admissions or how preferences will stigmatize beneficiaries of preferential treatment. And on and on. Without exception, regardless of the speaker’s ideology, everything offered was the usual pabulum and, no doubt, the speeches will be resurrected again given that racial preferences are unlikely to vanish.

There is, however, one argument justifying putting a heavy thumb on the scale for blacks that is unspeakable, at least publicly. I’ll call it an impolite conservative argument, conservative in the sense of preserving a relatively tranquil status quo and impolite insofar as it acknowledges an uncomfortable race-related truth.

The argument is that admitting academically unqualified blacks to elite schools is, at core, a policy to protect the racial peace and, as such, has nothing to do with racial justice, the putative benefits of diversity or any other standard justification. It is this peace- keeping function that explains why the entire establishment, from mega corporations to the military, endorses constitutionally iffy racial discrimination and why questioning diversity’s benefits is the most grievous of all PC sins. Stated in cost-benefit terms, denying a few hundred (even a few thousand) high-SAT scoring Asians an Ivy League diploma and instead forcing them attend Penn State is a cheap price to pay for social peace.

This argument rests on an indisputable reality that nearly all societies contain distinct ethnic or religious groups who must be managed for the sake of collective peace. They typically lack the ability to economically compete, may embrace values that contravene the dominant ethos, or otherwise just refuse to assimilate. What makes management imperative is the possibility of violence either at an individual level, for example, randomly stabbing total strangers, or on a larger scale, riots and insurrections. Thus, in the grand scheme of modern America’s potentially explosive race relations, academically accomplished Asians, most of whom are politically quiescent, are expendable, collateral damage in the battle to sustain a shaky status quo.

Examples of such to-be-managed groups abound. Recall our own tribulations with violent Indian tribes well into the 19th century or what several European nations currently face with Muslims or today’s civil war in Burma with the Karen People. Then there’s Turkey’s enduring conflict with the Kurds and long before the threat of Islamic terrorism, there were Basque separatists (the ETA), and the Irish Republican Army. In the past 45 years, there have been more than 16,000 terror attacks in Western Europe according to the Global Terrorism Database. At a lower levels add the persistently criminal Gypsies who for 500 years have resisted all efforts to assimilate them. This listing is, of course, only a tiny sampling of distinct indigestible violence-prone groups.

The repertoire of remedies, successful and failed, is also extensive. Our native-American problem has, sad to say, been largely solved by the use of apartheid-like reservations and incapacitating a once war-like people with drugs and alcohol. Elsewhere generous self-rule has done the trick, for example, the Basques in Spain. A particularly effective traditional solution is to promote passivity by encouraging religious acceptance of one’s lowly state.

Now to the question at hand: what is to be done regarding American blacks, a group notable for its penchant for violence whose economic advancement over the last half-century has largely stalled despite tens of billions and countless government uplift programs.

To appreciate the value of affirmative action recall the urban riots of the 1960s. They have almost been forgotten but their sheer number during that decade would shock those grown accustomed to today’s relative tranquility. A sampling of cities with major riots includes Rochester, NY, New York City, Philadelphia, PA, Los Angeles, CA, Cleveland, OH, Newark, NJ, Detroit, MI, Chicago, IL, Washington, DC and several smaller cities.

The damage from these riots— “uprisings” or “rebellions” according to some—was immense. For example, the Detroit riot of 1967 lasted five days and quelling it required the intervention of the Michigan Army National Guard and both the 82nd and 101st Airborne divisions. When it finally ended, the death toll was 43, some 7200 were arrested and more than 2000 buildings destroyed. Alas, much of this devastation remains visible today and should be a reminder of what could happen absent a policy of cooling out black anger.

To correctly understand how racial preferences at elite colleges serves as a cost-effective solution to potential domestic violence, recall the quip by comedian Henny Youngman when asked “How’s your wife?” He responded with, “Compared to what?” This logic reflects a hard truth: when confronting a sizable, potentially disruptive population unable or unwilling to assimilate, a perfect solution is beyond reach. Choices are only among the lesser of evils and, to repeat, under current conditions, race-driven affirmative action is conceivably the best of the worst. A hard-headed realist would draw a parallel with how big city merchants survive by paying off the police, building and food inspectors, and the Mafia. Racial preferences are just one more item on the cost-of-doing business list–the Danegeld.


In effect, racial preferences in elite higher education (and beneficiaries includes students, professors and the diversity-managing administrators) separates the top 10% measured in cognitive ability from their more violent down market racial compatriots. While this manufactured caste-like arrangement hardly guarantees racial peace (as the black-on-white crime rate, demonstrates) but it pretty much dampens the possibility of more collective, well-organized related upheavals, the types of disturbances that truly terrify the white establishment. Better to have the handsomely paid Cornel West pontificating about white racism at Princeton where he is a full professor than fulminating at some Ghetto street corner. This status driven divide just reflects human nature. Why would a black Yalie on Wall Street socialize with the bro’s left behind in the Hood? This is the strategy of preventing a large-scale, organized rebellion by decapitating its potential leadership. Violence is now just Chicago or Baltimore-style gang-banger intra-racial mayhem or various lone-wolf criminal attacks on whites.

Co-optation is a staple in the political management repertoire. The Soviet Union adsorbed what they called the “leading edge” into the Party (anyone exceptionally accomplished, from chess grandmasters or world-class athletes) to widen the divide the dominant elite, i.e., the Party, and hoi polloi. Election systems can be organized to guarantee a modicum of power to a handful of potential disruptors and with this position comes ample material benefits (think Maxine Waters). Monarchies have similarly managed potential strife by bestowing honors and titles on commoners. It is no accident that many radicals are routinely accused of “selling out” by their former colleagues in arms. In most instances the accusation is true, and this is by design.

To appreciate the advantages of the racial preferences in higher education consider Henny’s “compared to what”? part of his quip. Certainly what successfully worked for quelling potential Native American violence, e.g., forced assimilation in “Indian Schools” or confinement in pathology-breeding reservations, is now totally beyond the pale though, to be sure, some inner-cities dominated by public housing are increasingly coming to resemble pathology-inducing Indian reservations. Even less feasible is some legally mandated homeland of the types advocated by Black Muslims.

I haven’t done the math but I would guess that the entire educational racial spoils system is far more cost effective than creating a garrison state or a DDR-like police state where thousands of black trouble-makers were quickly incarcerated. Perhaps affirmative action in general should be viewed as akin to a nuisance tax, probably less than 5% of our GDP.

To be sure, affirmative action at elite universities is only one of today’s nostrums to quell potential large scale race-related violence. Other tactics include guaranteeing blacks elected offices, even if this requires turning a blind eye toward election fraud, and quickly surrendering to blacks who demand awards and honors on the basis of skin color. Perhaps a generous welfare system could be added to this keep-the-peace list. Nevertheless, when all added up, the costs would be far lowers than dealing with widespread 1960s style urban violence.

This peace-keeping aspect of affirmative action understood, perhaps we ought to view those smart Asians unfairly rejected from Ivy League schools as sacrificial lambs. Now, given all the billions that have been saved, maybe a totally free ride at lesser schools would be a small price to pay for their dissatisfaction (and they would also be academic stars at such schools). Of course this “Asian only” compensatory scholarship might be illegal under the color blind requirements of 1964 Civil Right Act, but fear not, devious admission officers will figure out a way around the law.

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  1. This 18 second video clip is a great real world summary:

  2. Thomm says:

    Interesting take. But risky because :

    1) Asians will grow in power, and either force more fairness towards themselves, or return to Asia.
    2) WN idiots happy about Asians returning to Asia fail to see that Asians will return only when they control enough of America to manage large parts of it from afar (like the tech industry).
    3) 2-3 million top caliber white male Western Expats might just move to Asia, since they may like Asian women more, and want to be free of SJW idiocy. This is all it takes to fill the alleged gap Asia has in creativity, marketing, and sales expertise. Asia effectively decapitates the white West by taking in their best young men and giving them a great life in Asia.
    4) America becomes like Brazil…with all economic value colonized by Asians and the white expats in Asia with mixed-race children. White trashionalists left behind are swiftly exterminated by blacks, and white women mix with the blacks. America becomes a Brazil minus the fun culture, good weather, and attractive women.

  3. Thomm says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    At first, I was surprised that they listened to him.

    After a while, I realized that many negros are stupid enough to think that Hispanics and Asians would like to be in some anti-white alliance with blacks as a senior partner. In reality, they have an even lower opinion of blacks than whites do. US blacks have zero knowledge of the world outside America, so this reality just doesn’t register with them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  4. John Derbyshire has made similar arguments–racial preferences are the price for social peace. But, as Steve Sailer has pointed out, we’re running out of white and Asian children to buffer black dysfunction and Asians are going to get less and less willing to be “sacrificial lambs” for a black underclass that they did nothing to create and that they despise.

    There are other ways to control the black underclass. You can force the talented ones to remain in their community and provide what leadership they can. Black violence can be met with instant retributive counter-violence. (Prior to the 1960s most race riots were white on black.) Whites can enforce white norms on the black community, who will sort-of conform to them as best they are able.

    Finally, Rudyard Kipling had a commentary on Danegeld. It applies to paying off dysfunctional domestic minorities just as much to invading enemies.

    “We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
    No matter how trifling the cost;
    For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
    And the nation that pays it is lost!”

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    , @Joe Wong
  5. Robert Weissberg

    Could care less about your smart Asians…The smart Asians are enthusiastivally voting Whitey into a racial minority on Nov 3 2020…They don’t belong on Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space…

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Tom Welsh
  6. jim jones says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    You can just hears someone shouting at the end “Go back to Beijing”

  7. Wally says:

    Once you give in, they will keep demanding more & more.

    There’s always a manufactured excuse.

    It’s time to say no.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  8. Please stop trying to confuse Orientals with Indians and other subcontinentals. They are quite distinct.

    This reminds me of the sinister (but largely successful) campaign to conflate San Francisco with “Silicon Valley.” The two are separate in every way.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Logan
  9. Hell with those ‘smart Asians’. They are among the biggest Proglob a-holes.

    Asians have servile genes that seek approval from the power. They are status-freaks.

    They make perfect collaborators with the Glob.

    Under communism, they made the most conformist commies.

    Under Japanese militarism, they made the most mindless military goons who did Nanking.

    Under Khmer Rouge, they were biggest looney killers.

    Under PC, they make such goody good PC dogs.

    If the prevailing culture of US was patriotic and conservatives, Asians would try to conform to that, and that wouldn’t be so bad.

    But since the prevailing culture is PC, these yellow dogs are among the biggest homomaniacal PC tards.

    Hell with them. Yellow dogs voted for Obama and Hillary in high numbers. They despise, hate, and feel contempt for white masses and working class. They are servitors of the empire as Darrell Hamamoto said. He’s one of the few good guys.

    Just look at that Francis Fukuyama, that slavish dog of Soros. He’s so disgusting. And then, you got that brown Asian tard Fareed Zakaria. What a vile lowlife. And that fat Jeer Heet who ran from dirty browns shi**ing all over the place outdoors to live with white people but bitches about ‘white supremacy’. Well, the fact that he ran from his own kind to live with whites must mean his own choice prefers white folks. His immigration choice was ‘white supremacism’. After all, he could have moved to black Africa. Why didn’t he?

    PS. The best way of Affirmative Action is to limit it only to American Indians and Blacks of slave ancestry. That’s it.

    Also, institutions should OPENLY ADMIT that they do indeed discriminate to better represent the broader population. Fair or not, honesty is a virtue. What is most galling about AA is the lies that says ‘we are colorblind and meritocratic but…’ No more buts. Yes, there is discrimination but to represent larger population. Okay, just be honest.

    • Replies: @F the media
  10. Thomm says:
    @Bro Methylene

    Please stop trying to confuse Orientals with Indians and other subcontinentals. They are quite distinct.

    In their original countries they are, but in America they are almost identical in all ways except appearance and diet.

    Plus, since SE Asia has always had influence from both, there is a smooth continuum in the US across all of these groups by the time the 2nd generation rolls around.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  11. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    They don’t belong on Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space…

    Three things wrong with this sentence.

    1) I don’t think you know that Native Americans (i.e. Siberians) were here first.
    2) I will bet anything that all 128 of your GGGGG-GPs are not English settlers who were here in 1776. You are probably some 2nd gen Polack or something who still worries that WASPs look down on you.
    3) There is very high variance among whites, and white trashionalists are SOOOO far below the quality threshold of any moderately successful white that they can’t claim to speak for all whites. White Trashionalists represent the waste matter that nature wants to purge (which is the process that enables exceptional whites to emerge on the other end of the scale). That is why white women are absolutely doing what nature wants, which is to cut off the White Trashionalists from reproduction. If you care about the white race, you should be glad that white women want nothing to do with you and allow you to complete you wastebasket role.


    • Replies: @Alden
    , @TWS
  12. helena says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    That’s hilarious. Anti-ma should replace their flags with placards saying, “Hey, Hey, this is Library!” at all counter-anti-fa demos.

  13. Will this really keep the peace?

    Obama was one of the beneficiaries of AA along with his wife and their kids. Did that prevent Baltimore and Chicago and etc from blowing up?

    In a way, AA and Civil Rights made black communities more volatile. When blacks were more stringently segregated, even smart and sensible blacks lived among blacks and played some kind of ‘role model’. They ran businesses and kept in close contact with black folks.

    It’s like white communities in small towns used to be much better when the George Baileys stayed in them or returned to them and ran things.

    But as more and more George Bailies left for the big cities, small towns had fewer top notch role models and leaders and enterprisers. Also, the filth of pop culture and youth degeneracy via TV corrupted the dummies. And then, when globalism took away the industries, there were just people on opioids. At least old timers grew up with family and church. The new generation grew up on Idiocracy.

    Anyway, AA will just taken more black talent from black community and mix them with whites, Asians, and etc. Will some of these blacks use their power and privilege to incite black mobs to violence? Some do go radical. But most will just get their goodies and forget the underclass except in some symbolic way. It’s like Obama didn’t do crap as ‘community organizer’. He just stuck close to rich Jews in Hyde Park, and as president, he was serving globo-wars, Wall Street, and homos.
    When he finally threw a bone at the blacks in his second term, it lit cities on fire.

    Did the black underclass change for the better because they saw Obama as president? No. If anything, it just made them bolder as flashmobs. The way blacks saw it, a bunch of fa**ogty wussy white people voted for a black guy created by a black man sexually conquering a white woman. They felt contempt for cucky whites, especially as rap culture and sports feature blacks as master race lording over whites. To most underclass blacks, the only culture they know is sports and rap and junk they see on TV. And they are told blacks are magical, sacred, badass, and cool. And whites are either ‘evil’ if they have any pride or cucky-wucky wussy if they are PC.

    The Murrayian Coming-Apart of whites took place already with blacks before. And more AA that takes in smarter blacks will NOT make things better for black underclass. And MORE blacks in elite colleges will just lead to MORE anger issues, esp as they cannot keep up with other students.

    Even so, I can understand the logic of trying to win over black cream of crop. Maybe if they are treated nice and feel ‘included’, they won’t become rabble-rousers like Al Sharpton and act more like Obama. Obama’s race-baiting with Ferguson was bad but could have been worse with someone like Sharpton.

    The Power can try to control a people in two ways. Crush everyone OR give carrots to comprador elites so that sticks can be used on masses. Clinton did this. He brought over black elites, and they worked with him to lock up record number of Negroes to make cities safer. As Clinton was surrounded by Negroes and was called ‘first black president’ by Toni Morrison, many blacks didn’t realize that he was really working to lock up lots of black thugs and restore order.

    Smart overlords play divide-and-conquer by offering carrots to collaborator elites and using sticks on masses.
    British Imperialists did that. Gandhi would likely have collaborated with Brits if not for the fact that he was called a ‘wog’ in South Africa and kicked off a train. Suddenly, he found himself as ONE with the poor and powerless ‘wogs’ in the station. He was made equal with his own kind.

    Consider Jews in the 30s and even during WWII. Many Western European Jews became rich and privileged and felt special and put on airs. Many felt closer to gentile elites and felt contempt and disdain for many ‘dirty’ and ‘low’ Eastern European Jews. If Hitler had been cleverer and offered carrots to rich Jews, there’s a good chance that many of them would have collaborated and worked with the Power to suppress or control lower Jews, esp. of Eastern European background.

    But Hitler didn’t class-discriminate among Jews. He went after ALL of them. Richest Jew, poorest Jew, it didn’t matter. So, even many rich Jews were left destitute if not dead after WWII. And this wakened them up. They once had so much, but they found themselves with NOTHING. And as they made their way to Palestine with poor Eastern European Jewish survivors, they felt a strong sense of ethnic identity. Oppression and Tragedy were the great equalizer. Having lost everything, they found what it really means to be Jewish. WWII and Holocaust had a great traumatic equalizing effect on Jews, something they never forgot since the war, which is why very rich Jews try to do much for even poor Jews in Israel and which is why secular Jews feel a bond with funny-dressed Jewish of religious sects.

    For this reason, it would be great for white identity if the New Power were to attack ALL whites and dispossess all of them. Suppose globalism went after not only Deplorables but Clintons, Bushes, Kaineses, Kerrys, Kennedys, and etc. Suppose all of them were dispossessed and humiliated and called ‘honkers’. Then, like Gandhi at the train station, they would regain their white identity and identify with white hoi polloi who’ve lost so much to globalism. They would become leaders of white folks.
    But as long as carrots are offered to the white elites, they go with Glob and dump on whites. They join with the GLOB to use sticks on white folks like in Charlottesville where sticks were literally used against patriots who were also demeaned as ‘neo-nazis’ when most of them weren’t.

    So, I’m wishing Ivy Leagues will have total NO WHITEY POLICY. It is when the whites elites feel rejected and humiliated by the Glob that they will return to the masses.

    Consider current Vietnam. Because Glob offers them bribes and goodies, these Viet-cuck elites are selling their nation to the Glob and even allowing homo ‘pride’ parades.

    White Genocide that attacks ALL whites will have a unifying effect on white elites and white masses. It is when gentiles targeted ALL Jews that all Jews, rich and poor, felt as one.

    But the Glob is sneaky. Instead of going for White Genocide that targets top, middle, and bottom, it goes for White Democide while forgoing white aristocide. So, white elites or neo-aristocrats are rewarded with lots of goodies IF they go along like the Romneys, Clintons, Kaines, Bidens, and all those quisling weasels.

  14. ” Now to the question at hand: what is to be done regarding American blacks, a group notable for its penchant for violence whose economic advancement over the last half-century has largely stalled despite tens of billions and countless government uplift programs. ”

    I read an article, making a learned impression, that on average USA blacks have a lower IQ.
    I do suppose that IQ has a cultural component, nevertheless, those in western cultures with a lower IQ can be expected to have less economic success.
    A black woman who did seem to understand all this was quoted in the article as that ‘blacks should be compensated for this lower IQ’.
    One can discuss this morally endless, but even if the principle was accepted, how is it executed, and where is the end ?
    For example, people with less than average length are also less successful, are we going to compensate them too ?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  15. “economic advancement over the last half-century has largely stalled despite tens of billions and countless government uplift programs”

    It only stalled when the Great Society and the uplift programs started. According to The Bell Curve there was basically an instant collapse when LBJ started to wreaking his havoc. Go back to pre-1964 norms and no late-60s riots.

  16. We have sacrificed smart white students for three generations to keep the hebraic component around 30% at our highest-ranked colleges and universities, and no one (except the jewish Ron Unz himself) made so much as a peep. And as he copiously documented, whites have suffered far more discrimination than asians have. The difference is, whites are more brainwashed into accepting it.

    I hope this doesn’t need linking here, but wth…

    • Replies: @Wally
  17. Realist says:

    “Sacrificing Smart Asians to Keep the Racial Peace”

    It is the sacrificing of smart white students that is the problem. Of all the races whites, on average are more innovative and ambitious.

  18. Tom Welsh says:

    “The argument is that admitting academically unqualified blacks to elite schools is, at core, a policy to protect the racial peace…”

    In simpler language, appeasement.

  19. Tom Welsh says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    “They don’t belong on Native Born White American Living and Breeding Space…”

    Your statement would be perfectly correct if it read, “White people of European origin don’t belong on Native American Living and Breeding Space…”

    Yet there they are, in immense, pullulating numbers. And now they have the gall to complain that other people – some of whom resemble the few surviving Native Americans far more closely than Whites do – are coming to “their” continent.

    Honestly, what is the world coming to when you spend centuries and millions of bullets, bottles of whisky and plague-ridden blankets getting rid of tens of millions of people so you can steal their land – and then more people like you come along and want to settle peaceably alongside you? That’s downright un-American.

    Maybe you’d be more comfortable if the Asian immigrants behaved more like the European settlers – with fire, sword, malnutrition and pestilence.

    • Replies: @helena
    , @Alden
  20. Tom Welsh says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Kipling quote is stirring and thought-provoking (like most Kipling quotes). But it is not entirely correct.

    Consider the kings of France in the 10th century, who were confronted by the apparently insoluble problem of periodic attacks by bands of vicious, warlike, and apparently irresistible Vikings. One king had the bright idea of buying the Northmen off by granting them a very large piece of land in the West of France – right where the invading ships used to start up the Seine towards Paris.

    The Northmen settled there, became known as Normans, and held Normandy for the rest of the Middle Ages – in the process absolutely preventing any further attacks eastward towards Paris. The dukes of Normandy held it as a fief from the king, and thus did homage to him as his feudal subordinates.

    They did conquer England, Sicily, and a few other places subsequently – but the key fact is that they left the tiny, feeble kingdom of France alone.

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
  21. Ratioal cost benefit arguments could be applied much more widely to the benefit of America and other First World countries. If otherwise illegal drugs were legalised, whether to be prescribed by doctors or not, it would save enormous amounts of money on law enforcement and, subject to what I proffer next, incarceration.

    What is the downside? The advocates of Prohibition weren’t wrong about the connection of alcohol and lower productivity. That was then. If, say, 10 per cent of the population were now disqualified from the workforce what would it matter. The potential STEM wizards amongst them (not many) would mostly be nurtured so that it was only the underclass which life in a daze. And a law which made it an offence, effectively one for which the penalty was to be locked up or otherwise deprived of freedom to be a nuisance, to render oneself unfit to perform the expected duties of citizenship would have collateral benefits in locking up the right underclass males.

  22. Logan says:
    @Bro Methylene

    “Orientals,” east Asians, or just Asians in American parlance are indeed quite different from south Asians, called “Asians” in the UK,. These are quite different groups.

    But the groups of east and south Asians include widely differing peoples. A Korean doesn’t have much in common with a Malay, nor a Pathan with a Tamil. Probably not much more than either has in common with the other group or with white Americans.

    That they “all look alike” to use does not really mean the do, it just means we aren’t used to them.

    Was recently watching an interesting Chinese movie and had enormous difficulty keeping the characters straight, because they did indeed all look alike to me. I wonder if Chinese people in China have similar trouble watching old American movies.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    , @Anon
  23. @Carlton Meyer

    yeah and hispanics are natural conservatives. dont be a cuck once that slant is here long enough he will tumble to the game and get on the anti white bandwagon. and sure asians will eventually out jew the jews just what we need another overlord, only this one a huge percentage or world pop. .

  24. You know weisberg youre not fooling anyone here peddle that cuck crap elsewhere affirmative action leads to nothing but more affirmative action at this point everyone but white males gets it, and you my jew friend know this so selling it to sucker cucks as the cost of doing business is just more jew shenanigans. There is a much better solution to the problem peoples deport them back where they belong israel africa asia central america.

  25. This is all about nothing now. The only thing White people have to learn anymore is controlled breathing, good position, taking up trigger slack, letting the round go at exactly the right moment – one round, one hit.

  26. Jake says:

    When your child tosses a tantrum and tears up his bedroom, and you tell him his mean-spirited, selfish cousins caused it and then you reward him with a trip to Disneyland and extra allowance: then you guarantee more and worse tantrums.

    That is what America and America’s Liberals, the Elites, have done with blacks and violence.

  27. ha, there is another group that is preying on the asian group 🙂 and it is omitted.

  28. TG says:

    A very interesting post. Really a unique perspective – who cares if it’s not fair, if it is necessary to keep the peace?

    I do however disagree with one of your points. “…whose economic advancement over the last half-century has largely stalled despite tens of billions and countless government uplift programs.”

    I think you have missed the main event. Over the last half-century the elites of this nation have waged ruthless economic warfare AGAINST poor blacks in this country, to an extent that far dwarfs the benefits of affirmative action (for a typically small number of already privileged blacks).

    Up through the 1960’s, blacks were starting to do not so bad. Yes they were in a lot of menial jobs, but many of these were unionized and the pay was pretty good. I mean, if nobody else wants to sweep your floors, and the only guy willing to do it i s black, well, he can ask for a decent deal.

    Then our elites fired black workers en masse, replacing them with Mexican immigrants and outsourcing to low-wage countries. Blacks have had their legs cut off with a chainsaw, and the benefits of affirmative action (which nowadays mostly go to Mexicans etc.!) little more than a bandaid.

    And before we are too hard on blacks, let me note that whites are also being swept up in the poverty of neoliberal globalization, and they too are starting to show social pathology.

    Because in terms of keeping the social peace, there is one fundamental truth more important than all others: there must be some measure of broadly shared prosperity. Without it, even ethnically homogeneous and smart and hard working people like the Japanese or Chinese will tear themselves apart.

  29. Not New York. Wife & I were living there then and Mayor Lindsay went to Harlem and NYC negroes did not riot after MLK Jr was assassinated.

    • Replies: @Rich
  30. Jake says:

    Note that there is not a word in this article about what this does to the white working class and how it can be given something in return for allowing Elites to bribe blacks with trillions and trillions of dollars in goodies. Nor is there is there any indication that this process eventually will explode, with too many blacks demanding so much it cannot be paid.

  31. Was this written tongue in cheek?
    Affirmative action will never end. The bribes will never end. The US made a mistake in the 1960s. We should have contained the riots then let the people in those areas sleep in the burned out rubble. Instead through poverty programs we rewarded bad black behavior.
    By filling the Ivy League with blacks we create a new class of Cornell West’s for white people to listen to. We enhance the “ethos” of these people.
    Eventually, certainly in no more than 40 years, we will run out of sacrifices. What then when whites constitute only 40% of the American population? Look at South Africa today.
    We have black college graduates with IQs in the 80s! They want to be listened to. After all, they’re college graduates.
    I do not believe you have found “a cost-effective solution to potential domestic violence”.
    You mix in this “top 10%” and they get greater acceptance by whites who are turned left in college.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  32. dearieme says:

    “The argument is that admitting academically unqualified blacks to elite schools is, at core, a policy to protect the racial peace …”

    IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
    To call upon a neighbour and to say: –
    “We invaded you last night – we are quite prepared to fight,
    Unless you pay us cash to go away.”

    And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
    And the people who ask it explain
    That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld
    And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!

    It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
    To puff and look important and to say: –
    “Though we know we should defeat you,
    we have not the time to meet you.
    We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”

    And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
    But we’ve proved it again and again,
    That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
    You never get rid of the Dane.

    It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
    For fear they should succumb and go astray;
    So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
    You will find it better policy to say: —

    “We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
    No matter how trifling the cost;
    For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
    And the nation that plays it is lost!”

    • Agree: TWS
  33. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    whose economic advancement over the last half-century has largely stalled despite tens of billions and countless government uplift programs.

    The reality of this is become a huge stumbling block. In fact this group has actually been mostly regressing into violence and stupidity, going their own separate way as exemplified by their anti-social music which celebrates values repugnant to the majority. Look at the absurd level of shootings in cities like Chicago. That's not changing anytime soon. They're by far overrepresented in Special Ed, juvenile delinquency, prisons and all other indicators of dysfunction. Their talented tenth isn't very impressive as compared to whites or Asians. Their entire middle class is mostly an artificial creation of affirmative action. The point is that they can only be promoted so far based on their capability. The cost of the subsidy gets greater every year and at some point it'll become too heavy a burden and then it'll be crunch time. After the insanity of the Cultural Revolution the Chinese had to come to their senses. It's time to curtail our own version of it.

  34. Truth says:

    It really is terrible and unfair that an Asian needs to score so much higher than you white oppressors to get into the Ivy league…

    A Princeton study found that students who identify as Asian need to score 140 points higher on the SAT than whites to have the same chance of admission to private colleges, a difference some have called “the Asian tax.”

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  35. I think this is brilliant satire.
    It is actually an argument that is logically sound. Doesn’t mean that it’s good or sensible or even workable over the long run.
    It’s just logically sound. It holds together if one accepts the not-crazy parts its made out of.
    I don’t believe it’s meant to be taken literally, because both the beneficiaries and those who get screwed will grow in their resentment and the system would melt down.
    New fields with the word “studies’ in them would get added and everyone would know – deep down – why that is so, and Asians would continue to dominate the hard sciences, math and engineering.
    Still, as satire, it’s so close to the bone that it works beautifully.

  36. helena says:
    @Tom Welsh

    “Yet there they are, in immense, pullulating numbers. And now they have the gall to complain that other people – some of whom resemble the few surviving Native Americans far more closely than Whites do – are coming to “their” continent.”

    Agree. The country should be returned to pre-1700 conditions and given over to anyone who wants it.

    • Replies: @Rdm
  37. Rich says:

    I guess one man’s riot is another man’s peaceful night. There was a bit of rioting in Brooklyn that night, businesses burned and looted, and a handful of businesses were looted in Harlem. There was a very heavy police presence with Mayor Lindsey that night and blacks were still very segregated in 1968, so I’d guess it was more that show of force that prevented the kind of riots we’d seen earlier and in other cities at that time. Still, there was looting and burning, so New York’s blacks don’t get off the hook. As a personal note. my older brother and his friends were attacked by a roving band of blacks that night in Queens, but managed to chase them out of our neighborhood.

  38. The costs of BRA may be lower than the costs of 1960s urban riots, though an accurate accounting would be difficult as many costs are not easily tabulated.

    Consider, for instance, the costs of excluding higher performing whites and Asians from elite universities. Does this result in permanently lower salaries from them as a result of greater difficulty in joining an elite career track?

    What costs do affirmative action impose upon corporations, especially those with offices in metropolitan areas with a lot of blacks? FedEx is famously centralized in Memphis. What’s the cost to me as a shipper in having to deal with sluggish black customer service personnel?

    The blacks are 15% of the population, so I doubt “garrison state” costs would be terribly high. I am certain that segregation was cheaper than BRA is. The costs of segregation were overlooking some black talent (negligible) and duplication of certain facilities (I suspect this cost is lower than the cost of white flight).

    • Replies: @Alden
  39. How did America ever manage to survive when there hardly any Chinese…Hindus..Sihks….Koreans…in OUR America?

    Answer:Very well thank you!!!!…..America 1969=90 percent Native Born White American….places two Alpha Native Born White American Males on the Moon…10 more after this…Who the F would be opposed to this?

    Answer:Chinese “Americans”…Korean “Americans”…Hindu “Americans”….Sihk “Americans”….Pakistani “Americans”…

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Avalanche
  40. Jason Liu says:

    There would still be racial peace if affirmative action was abolished. They’ll bitch for a while, but they’ll get used it and the dust will settle.

    Side note: Affirmation action also disproportionately helps white women into college, and they’re the largest group fueling radical leftist identity politics/feminism on campus. In other words, affirmative action is a large contributor to SJWism, the media-academia complex, and the resulting current political climate.

    • Agree: Alden
  41. anarchyst says:
    @jilles dykstra

    The statement “blacks should be compensated for this lower IQ” is no different than the descendents of the so-called jewish “holocaust ™” being compensated in perpetuity by the German government. Now, there are calls by the jewish “holocaust ™” lobby to extend the financial compensation to children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of these so-called “holocaust ™ survivors, stating the fake concept of “holocaust ™” transference”…just another “holocaust ™” scam…
    Same thing.

  42. bjondo says:

    Smart means what?

    More Monsanto, DuPont cancers and degraded foods.
    New diseases from medical, biological, genetic research
    More spying and censorship and stealing by Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, high IQ thieves.
    All jobs overseas, domestic unemployment, endless wars, by the best and brightest.
    Toxic pollution, mental pollution that dwarfs the back yard pollution of tires and old refrigs by “low IQ deplorables (white and black and brown”.
    Degraded, degrading entertainment and fake news to match fake histories by Phds.
    Tech devices that are “wonderful” but life is actually better more meaningful without.

  43. [Blacks] “whose economic advancement over the last half-century has largely stalled despite tens of billions and countless government uplift programs.” No, Professor, it is Trillions spend over the last 50 years and millions before that. Countless Whites and other non-Negroid people have had to step aside in education, military, government, private industry, to let the lesser person advance and leap frog the accepted virtue-merit path to advancement. AND IT STILL IS NOT ENOUGN FOR BLECKS.

    The obvious solution is to separate into uni-racial/ethnic states. For Whites, this would include a separate autocephalous, independent state of Caucasians, Asians, and Hindu. This is the Proto-IndoEuropean Family, related by genes and languages.

  44. jim jones says:

    I have the same trouble with Korean movies, all the women look the same:

    • Replies: @üeljang
    , @Anonymous
  45. Rdm says:

    Could agree 1 and 2.

    2-3 millions Top caliber White males moving to Asia?

    haha, Top caliber White males (American) will stay in America, screw the rest WN, devour all the resources available, not only in America, but from the rest of the world.

    This is a real White so-called Top caliber White males enjoying in Philippines.

    You can see the typical features of White in Asia

    1. Bald
    2. Obese
    3. Lanky
    4. Gold watch
    5. Cargo pants
    6. Flip flop

    You can’t get away those Top caliber White males features in Asia.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  46. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    I’m guessing the author would be screaming at the top of his lungs if it was Jewish students being told to go to some state university–instead of Harvard–since we have to make room for blacks.

    BTW, your comment “..Recall our own tribulations with violent Indian tribes” needs clarification. Maybe the tribes got violent because of the 400 treaties Uncle Sam made with the various tribes, he honored NONE

  47. I would call it the Diversity Tax.

  48. üeljang says:
    @jim jones

    A great part of that is because, well, let’s say that the place where those actresses have got their work done is the same.

    Whites have much greater natural variations in hair and eye color, but skin color among East Asian individuals is more naturally variable (especially when the effect of tanning is considered), and their facial features and somatotypes are also more diverse in my opinion. For example, East Asian populations contain some individuals who have what the Japanese call futae mabuta “double eyelids” and some individuals who have what they call hitoe mabuta “single eyelids,” whereas White populations contain only individuals who have “double eyelids.” Whether such increased physical variability is positive or negative probably depends on one’s viewpoint; in the case of that eyelid polymorphism, the variant that is found in Asians but not in Whites is generally considered neutral or even positive when it occurs in male individuals, but negative when it occurs in female individuals, so plastic surgeons must be overflowing with gratitude for the single eyelid gene.

  49. Alden says:

    The separate school facilities meant a major saving in the costs of school police and security guards, resource teachers, counselors buses and bus drivers, and layers and layers of administrators trying to administer the mess.

    Separate schools were a lot cheaper in that the black teachers kept the lid on the violence with physical punishment and the White teachers and students had a civilized environment.

    The old sunshine laws kept blacks out of White neighborhoods after dark which greatly reduced black on White crime. In the north, informal neighborhood watches kept black on White crime to a minimum until block by block the blacks conquered the cities.

    George Wallace said segregation now, segregation forever. I say sterilization now, problem solved in 80 years.

    Asians??? I went to college with the White WASP American young men who were recruited and went to work in Mountain View and Cupertino and the rest of Santa Clara county and invented Silicon Valley.

    Not one was Asian or even Jewish. And they invented it and their sons couldn’t even get into Stanford because their sons are White American men.

    I think the worst thing about affirmative action is that government jobs are about the only well paid secure jobs that still stick to the 40 hour work week. Government is the largest employer in the country. And those jobs are “no Whites need apply”.

    BTW I read the Protocols years before the Internet. I had to make an appointment to go into a locked section of a research library. I had to show ID. It was brought to me and I had to sit where I could be seen to read it. I had to sign an agreement that I would not copy anything from the protocols.

    And there it was, the fourth protocol.
    “We shall see to it brothers, that we shall see to it that they appoint only the incompetent and unfit to their government positions. And thus we shall conquer them from within”

  50. Alden says:

    Actually, Europeans arrived 20, to 30,000 years ago from Europe and were wiped out by the later arriving Asians.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  51. Beckow says:

    Only 4) is remotely possible. And Brazilian women are not that attractive, they are nice looking on postcards, but quite dumpy and weird-looking in person. But that is a matter of personal taste.

    The reason 1,2,3 are nonsensical is that geography and resources matter. Asia simply doesn’t have them, it is not anywhere as attractive to live in as North America or Europe and never will be. It goes beyond geographic resources, everything from architecture, infrastructure, culture is simply worse in Asia and it would take hundreds of years to change that.

    So why the constant ‘go to Asia’ or ‘Asia is the future’? It might be a temporary escape for many desperate, self-hating, white Westerners, a place to safely worship as they give up on it all. Or it could be the endless family links with the Asian women. But that misreads that most of the Asian families are way to clear-headed to exchange what the are trying to escape for the nihilistic dreams of their white partners. They are the least likely to go to Asia, they know it instinctively, they know what they have been trying to escape.

    It is possible that the West is on its last legs, and many places are probably gone for good. But Asia is not going to step up and replace it. It is actually much worse that that – we are heading for a dramatic downturn and a loss of comfort and civilization. Thank you Baby Boomers – you are the true end-of-liners of history.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  52. nickels says:

    Except that, of course, as with all forms of appeasement, it isn’t working….

  53. Bright and talented white kids from non-elite families stuck between the Scylla and Charybdis of Cram-Schooled Study-Asians with no seeming limit to their tolerance for tedium and 90 IQ entitled blacks is 2017 in a nutshell.

  54. Realist says:

    Weissberg is a nutless quisling. The proper way to handle blackmail is to stop it in it’s tracks.

    Peaceful demonstrations are fine, property destroying riots should be stopped by any means necessary. Blacks would soon stop their dumb shit actions

  55. @George Weinbaum

    That there Cornell West is a learned fellow. I bet his vocabulary is bigger than that of GWB and DJT – combined.

  56. Jeff77450 says:

    Said in all seriousness: I genuinely feel sorry for blacks but not because of slavery & Jim Crow. Those were great evils but every group has gone through that. No, I feel sorry for them because their average IQ of 85–yes, it is–combined with their crass thug culture, which emphasizes & rewards all the wrong things, is going to keep them mired in dysfunction for decades to come. Men like Thomas Sowell & Walter Williams have all the information that blacks need to turn themselves around but they won’t listen, I guess because the message is take responsibility for yourselves and your families and refuse to accept charity in all its different forms to include AA.

    “Thomas Sowell vs Affirmative Action’s failures” (~13 minutes):

  57. Mefobills says: • Website

    From the author:

    some legally mandated homeland of the types advocated by Black Muslims.

    Why not pay people to leave? A law change would convert the money supply from bank money to sovereign money.

    AMI’s HR2990 would convert the money supply overnight, and nobody would be the wiser.

    At that point, new public money could be channeled into funding people to leave. Blacks that don’t like it in the U.S. would be given X amount of dollars to settle in an African country of their choice. This public money can be formed as debt free, and could also be directed such that it can only buy American goods. In other words, it can be forced to channel, to then stimulate the American economy.

    In this way, the future works, to then get rid of disruptive future elements.

    It always boils down to the money system. There is plenty of economic surplus to then fund the removal of indigestible elements.

    People automatically assume that the money supply must be private bank credit, as that is the way it always has been. NO IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.

    • Replies: @Avalanche
  58. @Alden

    source please, that I would like to read. something new.

    • Replies: @Alden
  59. Rdm says:

    If Whites leave America and go back to their origin, no one, I repeat, NO ONE would complain about that. They’d be singing “God Riddance” song all along.

    No one wants to migrate to Ukraine, a white country.
    No one wants to migrate to Hungary, a white country.
    No one wants to migrate to Austria, a white country.

    Everyone wants to migrate to the place where there’s an over-bloated sense of job availability. In this case, America offers an ample amount of opportunity.

    Let’s wait and see how universities in CA populated with merit-based Asian Americans overrule all universities in the US anytime soon.

    Name any state in the US that produces more than two universities (in the Top 50 list) in the world.

    No state can compete against CA. You wonder why?

  60. segundo says:

    Are you utterly oblivious to the fact that well over 95% of the blacks getting AAed into universities are then being trained/indoctrinated into being future disruptive activists? Activists with credentials, more money and connections. Entirely counterproductive and much of it on the taxpayers’ dime. If there is a solution, AA isn’t it.

  61. @Rdm

    Can I count you in on the Calexit movement–followed by the purge of whites? Freed from the burden of those miserable European-origin Americans, the Asian-Negro-Mestizo marvel will be a shining light to the rest of the world!

    • Replies: @Rdm
  62. David says:

    I waited to make this comment until the serious thinkers had been here. Did anyone notice the dame in the picture is giving us the finger? I did a little experiment to see if my hand could assume that position inadvertently and it couldn’t. It aptly illustrates the article, either way.

  63. @Rdm

    Name any state in the US that produces more than two universities (in the Top 50 list) in the world.

    No state can compete against CA. You wonder why?

    If you took the land mass of CA and imposed it on the U.S. East Coast between Boston and South Carolina, I don’t think it’d be a problem to surpass California in any Top 50 University competition.

    I’m not sure what your point is here.

    • Replies: @Rdm
  64. The Realist says: • Website

    Here’s a simpler and more effective solution-KILL ALL NIGGERS NOW. See, not so difficult, was it? Consider it a Phoenix Program for the American Problem. Actually, here’s another idea-KILL ALL LIBERALS NOW. That way, good conservative people of different races, sexes, etc., can be saved from the otherwise necessary carnage. Remember, gun control is being able to hit your target.

  65. The affirmative action game may well serve the interests of the cognitive elite whites, but it has been a disaster for the rest of white America. I have a better solution.

    Give the feral negroes what they have been asking for. Pull all law enforcement out of negro hellholes like Detroit and South Chicago and let nature take its course.

    Send all Asians and other foreigners who not already citizens back to their homelands. End all immigration except very special cases like the whites being slaughtered in South Africa or the spouse of a white American male citizen.

    • Replies: @Avalanche
  66. Thomm says:

    I am not referring to guys like in the picture.

    I am referring to the very topmost career stars, moving to Asia for the expat life. Some of that is happening, and it could accelerate. Only 2-3 million are needed.

  67. Wally says: • Website
    @Kyle McKenna

    ” And as he copiously documented, whites have suffered far more discrimination than asians have. The difference is, whites are more brainwashed into accepting it. ”

    And that’s the function of the fraudulent, impossible ‘6M Jews, 5M others, gas chambers’.


    “The historical mission of our world revolution is to rearrange a new culture of humanity to replace the previous social system. This conversion and re-organization of global society requires two essential steps: firstly, the destruction of the old established order, secondly, design and imposition of the new order. The first stage requires elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy ethical barriers and social definitions, only then can the destroyed old system elements be replaced by the imposed system elements of our new order.

    The first task of our world revolution is Destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated, individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct, traditional social norms must only be viewed as a disease to be eradicated, the ruling dictum of the new order is; nothing is good so everything must be criticized and abolished, everything that was, must be gone.”

    from: ‘The Spirit Of Militarism’, by Nahum Goldmann
    Goldmann was the founder & president of the World Jewish Congress

    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

  68. @Rdm

    Almost all white people would rather migrate to Austria, Hungary, and the Ukraine than the following citadels of civilization:

    Central African Republic
    Equatorial Guinea
    South Africa

    You know what? I bet most blacks would as well.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @dearieme
  69. @Liberty Mike

    I don’t know if anyone else got it, but that is pretty damn funny.

  70. Wally says:

    45% of California is Federal land.

    – Without US taxpayers money CA would be a 3rd world country completely filled with unemployable & dumb illegal immigrants.

    – Think about this brief list made possible by the US taxpayers / federal government, money CA would not get and then tens of thousands of CA people would lose their jobs (= lost CA tax revenues):

    aerospace contracts, defense contracts, fed gov, software contracts, fed gov airplane orders, bases, ports, money for illegal aliens costs, federal monies for universities, ‘affirmative action monies, section 8 housing money, monies for highways, monies for ‘mass transportation’, monies to fight crime, monies from the EPA for streams & lakes, monies from the Nat. Park Service, monies for healthcare, monies for freeloading welfare recipients, and all this is just the tip of the iceberg

    Not to mention the counties in CA which will not want to be part of the laughable ‘Peoples Republic of California’.

    – And imagine the ‘Peoples Republic of California Army’, hilarious.

    CA wouldn’t last a week without other peoples money.

    Calexit? Please, pretty please.

    • Replies: @Rdm
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
  71. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    You just want intra-white socialism so you can mooch off of productive whites.

  72. It’s particularly unfortunate that Asians, who can hardly be blamed for the plight of America’s Blacks, are the ones from whom the “affirmative action” #groidgeld is extracted.

    • Replies: @Alden
  73. Rdm says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    My impression and overall experience from interacting with White Americans is good in general. I have a very distinct view on both White Americans and Europeans. I’d come back later.

    I don’t recommend purging of Whites in America. Neither do I prohibit immigration of all people. But I do wish “legal” immigration from all parts of the world to this land. But I also understand why people are fed up with White America.

    There is a clear distinction between Europeans and White Americans. White Americans born and bred here are usually an admixture of many European origins. They usually hide their Eastern European origin and fervently claim German, French, English whenever possible — basically those countries that used to be colonial masters in the past.

    White Americans are generally daring, optimistic and very open-minded. Usually when you bump into any White Americans born and bred here, you can sense their genuine hospitality.
    Europeans, usually fresh White immigrants in this land, tend to carry over their old mentality with a bit of self-righteous attitude to patronize and condescend Americans on the ground that this is a young country.

    My former boss was Swiss origin, born in England, and migrated to America. If there’s an opportunity cost, he’d regale his English origin. If there’s a Swiss opportunity, he’d talk about his ancestry. He’d bash loud, crazy Americans while extoling his European majesty. He became a naturalized American last year for tax purposes so that his American wife can inherit if he kicks the bucket.

    Bottom line is, every immigrant to the US, in my honest opinion, is very innocent and genuinely hard working. They have a clear idea of how they like to achieve their dreams here and would like to work hard. It seems after staying here for a while, they all change their true selves to fit into the existing societal structure, i.e., Chris Hemsworth, an Australian purposely trained to speak American English in Red Dawn, can yell “This is our home” while 4th generation Asian Americans will be forced to speak broken English. This is how dreams are shaped in America.

    Coming back to purge of Whites, I only wish those self-righteous obese, bald, bottom of the barrel, living on the alms Whites, proclaiming their White skin, will go back to their origin and do something about a coming flood of Muslim in their ancestral country if they’re so worried about their heritage.

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
  74. Rdm says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    My point is, universities in CA are doing well commensurate with hard working students without AA action.

  75. Saxon says:

    No, he just wants the street-defecating hangers-on like you to go back and show how awesome you claim you are in your own country by making a success of it rather than milking all of the entitlements and affirmative action and other programs of literal racial advantage given to you by virtue of setting foot in someone else’s country.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  76. Rdm says:

    So you’re talking about Calexit in AA action?

    Let us play along.

    If CA is existing solely due to Fed Alms, I can agree it’s the tip of the iceberg. But we’re talking about Universities, their performance and how AA is affecting well qualified students.

    Following on your arguments,

    UC Berkeley receives \$373 Millions (Federal Sponsorship) in 2016.
    Harvard University, on the other hand, receives \$656 millions (Federal sponsorship) in 2012.

    I’m talking about how Universities climb up in World ranking, based upon their innovations, productivity, research output, etc etc etc. Which to me, is reflective of what kind of students are admitted into the programs. That’s my point.

    If you want to talk about Calexit, you’d better go and refresh your reading comprehension ability.

  77. The thing that is forgotten is that white Americans DO NOT need the Africans in any way whatsoever. There is NOTHING in Detroit that we want – we abandoned it deliberately and have no interest in ever returning.

    On the other hand, what do the Africans need from us?

    Food. We own and operate all food production.
    Medicine. Ditto.
    Clean water. Look at Flint.
    Sanitation services. Look at anywhere in Africa.

    To put a stop to African behavior from Africans is an idiot’s dream. They will never stop being what they are. They simply cannot. So if we cannot expel them, we must control them. When they act up, we cut off their food, medicine, water, and sewer services. Build fences around Detroit and Flint. Siege. After a month or two of the Ethiopian Diet, the Africans in Detroit will be much more compliant.

  78. @Thomm

    Thomm=the girly boy blatherings of a White Libertarian Cuck…

    The benefit to the Historic Native Born White American Working Class of being voted into a White Racial Minority in California by Chinese “Americans”…Korean “Americans”….Hindu “Americans”…Sihk “Americans”…and Iranian “Americans”?

    Answer:0…. Bring back the Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act!!!

    Two Great pro-White Socialist Labor Leaders:Denis Kearney and Samuel Gompers…go read Denis Kearney’s Rebel Rousing speeches…google Samuel Gompers’ Congressional Testimony in favor of the passage of The Chinese Legal Immigrant Exclusion Act…

    • Replies: @Thomm
  79. Anonymous [AKA "The peril of appeasement"] says:

    As some have pointed out, the trouble with appeasement is, it never ends. Those who are used to the handouts will always want more. There’s the saying parents tend to strengthen the strong and weaken the weak, that’s what paternalistic policies like affirmative action and welfare do to a society. It creates a cycle of dependency.

    Those who think multiculturalism coupled with identity politics is a good idea need to take a good look at Malaysia, arguably the most multicultural country outside the US. The country is in Southeast Asia, with roughly 30m people, roughly 60% ethnic Malay(100% muslim), 23% Chinese(mostly buddhist or christian), brought in by the British in the 1800s to work the rubber plantations and tin mines, and 7% Indian(mostly Hindu), brought in by the British to work the plantations and civil service.

    In 1957 the Brits left and left the power in the hands of the ethnic Malays. The Chinese soon became the most successful and prosperous group and dominated commerce and the professional ranks. In 1969 a major race riot broke out, the largely rural and poor Malays decided to “take back what’s theirs”, burnt, looted and slaughtered many ethnic Chinese. After the riot the government decided the only way to prevent more riots is to raise the standard of living for the Malays. And they began a massive wealth transfer program through affirmative action that heavily favors ethnic Malays. First, all civil service jobs were given to only ethnic Malays, including the police and military. Then AA was instituted in all local universities where Malays with Cs and Ds in math and science were given preference over Chinese with all A’s to all the engineering, medicine and law majors. Today no one in their right mind, not even the rich Malays, want to be treated by a Malay doctor. I know people who were maimed by one of these affirmative actioned Malay “neurosurgeons” who botched a simple routine procedure, and there was no recourse, no one is allowed to sue.

    Thanks to their pandering to the Malay majority and outright voting fraud, the ruling party UMNO has never lost an election and is today the longest serving ruling party in modern history. Any dissent was stifled through the sedition act where dissidents are thrown in jail, roughed up, tossed down 14th story buildings before they even go to trial. All media is strictly controlled and censored by the government, who also controls the military, and 100% of the country’s oil production, with a large portion of the profit of Petronas going to the coffers of the corrupt Malay government elites, whatever’s left is given to hoi polloi Malays in the form of fluff job positions created in civil service, poorly run quasi-government Malay owned companies like Petronas, full scholarships to study abroad for only ethnic Malays, tax free importation of luxury cars for ethnic Malays, and when the government decided to “privatize” any government function like the postal service or telcom, they gave it in the form of a monopoly to a Malay owned company. All government contracts e.g. for infrastructure are only given to Malay owned companies, even as they have zero expertise for the job. The clever Chinese quickly figured out they could just use a Malay partner in name only to get all government contracts.

    As opposed to the US where affirmative action favors the minority, in Malaysia AA favors the majority. You know it can’t last. The minority can only prop up the majority for so long. Growth today is largely propped up by oil income, and the oil reserve is dwindling. Even Mahathir the former prime minister who started the most blatant racial discrimination policy against the Chinese started chastising the Malays of late, saying they’ve become too lazy and dependent on government largess.

    Yet despite the heavy discrimination, the Chinese continued to thrive thanks to their industriousness and ingenuity, while many rural Malays not connected with the governing elite remain poor — classic case of strengthening the strong and weakening the weak. According to Forbes, of the top 10 richest men in Malaysia today, 9 are ethnic Chinese, only 1 is an ethnic Malay who was given everything he had. Green with envy, the ethnic Malays demanded more to keep the government in power. So a new law was made – all Chinese owned businesses have to give 30% ownership to an ethnic Malay, just like that.

    Needless to say all this racial discrimination resulted in a massive brain drain for the country. many middle class Indians joined the Chinese and emigrated en masse to Australia, NZ, US, Canada, Europe, Singapore, HK, Taiwan, Japan. The ones left are often destitute and poor, heavily discriminated against due to their darker skin, and became criminals. Al Jazeera recently reported that the 7% ethnic Indians in Malaysia commit 70% of the crime.

    To see how much this has cost Malaysia — Singapore split off from Malaysia 2 years after their joint independence from Britain and was left in destitute as they have no natural resources. But Lee Kuan Yew with the help of many Malaysian Chinese who emigrated to Singapore turned it into one of the richest countries in the world in one generation with a nominal per capita GDP of \$53k, while Malaysia is firmly stuck at \$9.4k, despite being endowed with natural resources from oil to tin and beautiful beaches. The combination of heavy emigration among the Chinese and high birthrate among the muslim Malays encouraged by racialist Mahathir, the Chinese went from 40% of the population in 1957 to 23% today. The Indians went from 11% to 7%.

    I fear that I’m seeing the same kind of problem in the US. It’s supremely stupid for the whites to want to give up their majority status through open borders. Most Asians like me who immigrated here decades ago did it to get away from the corrupt, dishonest, dog-eat-dog, misogynistic culture of Asia. But when so many are now here, it defeats the purpose. The larger the immigrant group, the longer it takes to assimilate them. Multiculturalism is a failed concept, especially when coupled with identity politics. Affirmative Action does not work, it only creates a toxic cycle of dependency. The US is playing with fire. We need a 20 year moratorium on immigration and assimilate all those already here. Otherwise, I fear the US will turn into another basketcase like Malaysia.

    • Replies: @Avalanche
  80. Alden says:
    @Tom Welsh

    There were only about one million Indians living in what is the United States in 1500. There are now 3 million living in much better conditions than in 1500.

    I would be willing to accept non White immigration if the non White immigrants and our government would end affirmative action for non Whites.

    Asians are discriminated against in college admissions. But in the job market they have affirmative action aristocratic status over Whites.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  81. Truth says:
    @Liberty Mike

    The sno percentage is much higher an Ukraine, Hungary and Austria than here.

    • Replies: @THe Realist
  82. Joe Wong says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    admitting academically unqualified blacks to elite schools is, at core, a policy to protect the racial peace and, as such, has nothing to do with racial justice,

    The Black are protesting relentlessly and loudly verbally and thru assertive actions about the racial discrimination they have been facing. I have never seen those academically unqualified blacks admitted to the elite schools have stood up using themselves as shiny examples to refute the discrimination allegations the Black made against the White.

    While the policy to protect the racial peace by admitting academically unqualified blacks to elite schools failed miserably, the restricting the smart and qualified Asians to elite schools is blatantly racial injustice practice exercised in broad day light with a straight face lie. The strategy is to cause resentment between the minorities so that the White can admitting their academically unqualified ones to elite schools without arousing scrutiny.

    • Replies: @Alden
  83. Thomm says:

    I’m white, you stupid faggot.

    I am extremely committed that you White Trashionalists fulfill your duty as wastebaskets of genetic matter.

    Excellent whites exist only because the waste produced gets removed in the form of WN wiggers.

    Like I said, there is a huge variance within whites. Therefore, you have no business speaking for respectable whites.

    Worst of all, you Nationalist-Leftists are un-American.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Liberty Mike
    , @Saxon
  84. Alden says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Just google solutrean theory Europeans arrived in America 20,000 years ago. Many articles come up including from smithsonian.

    The east coast Canadian Indians always had the founding myth they came over the ocean.

    There’s a book, Across The Atlantic Ice by Dennis Stanford on kindle, Amazon and many book stores.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  85. Here is one ‘smart Asian’ who is not a Self-Righteous Addict of Proglobalism, but what a clown.

    Dineshisms are always funny as hell.

    Because KKK were Southern Democrats, Democratic Party is forever the KKK party. Never mind Democrats represented a broad swatch of people.
    And Dinesh finds some parallels between Old Democrats and Nazi ideology, therefore Democrats are responsible for Nazism. I mean…

    Doesn’t he know that parties change? Democratic Party once used to be working class party. Aint no more.
    GOP used to be Party of Lincoln. It is southern party now, and most loyal GOP-ers are Southerns with respect for Confederacy. GOP now wants Southern Neo-Confed votes but don’t want Confed memorials. LOL.
    Things change.

    Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond came over to the GOP for a reason.

    Dinesh seems to be stuck in ‘caste’ mentality. Because Dems once had KKK on its side, Democratic Party is forever cast or ‘casted’ as KKK. And now, ‘Democrats are real Nazis’.

    Actually, the real supremacism in America at the moment seems to be AIPAC-related.

    Anyway, there were leftist elements in National Socialism, but its was more right than left.

    Why? Because in the hierarchy of ideological priorities, the most important core value was the ‘Aryan’ Tribe. Socialized medicine was NOT the highest value among Nazis. Core conviction was the ideology of racial identity and unity. Thus, it was more right than left.

    Just because National Socialism had some leftist elements doesn’t make it a ‘leftist’ ideology.

    Same is true of Soviet Communism. Stalin brought back high culture and classical music. He favored traditionalist aesthetics to experimental or avant-garde ones. And Soviets promoted some degree of Russian nationalism. And even though communists eradicated certain aspects of the past, they also restored respect for classic literature and culture. So, does that mean USSR was ‘conservative’ or ‘rightist’? No, it had some rightist elements but its core ideology was about class egalitarianism, therefore, it was essentially leftist.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    , @Avalanche
  86. Alden says:
    @Joe Wong

    All the Whites and Asians who are admitted to the top 25 schools are superbly qualified. There are so many applicants every White and Asian is superbly qualified.

    The entire point of affirmative action is that Asians and Whites are discriminated against in favor of blacks and Hispanics. Harvard proudly proclaims that is now majority non White.

    Don’t worry, the Jews decided long ago that you Asian drones would have medicine and tech, Hispanics construction, food, trucking,and cleaning and Hispanics and blacks would share government work and public education.

    Whites will gradually disappear and the 110 year old Jewish black coalition will control the Asians and Hispanics through black crime and periodic riots.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
    , @Ron Unz
  87. @Truth

    Do you think Beavis and Butthead are choosing Angola over Austria?

  88. Alden says:

    Affirmative action punishes Whites as well and Asians are always free to go back to wherever their parents or grandparents came from.

    After 400 years, Whites can’t go anywhere.

    • Replies: @Pachyderm Pachyderma
  89. Alden says:

    Do you favor affirmative action?

    • Replies: @Thomm
  90. Joe Wong says:

    So you are a tough guy, and never give in anything to anyone in your life? It seems the Jews have similar view as yours, the Jews insist that if they give in an inch to those Holocaust deniers, they will keep demanding more & more, at the beginning the Holocaust deniers will demand for the evidence, then they will demand the Jews are at fault, then they will demand the Nazi to be resurrected, then they will demand they can carry out Holocaust against anyone they don’t like, … Pretty soon they will demand they to be treated like the pigs in the Orwellian’s Animal Farm.

  91. @Thomm

    “Un-American” is descriptively flaccid. It means nada, nothing, zero. It is vapid and so empty and such a lame lexeme.

    Any word that is hackneyed, lifeless, and so low energy would never be scripted by a White committed to excellence.

  92. @Priss Factor

    Asia is a big continent and Asians of different ethnicity have very different voting patterns due to their culture and history. Japanese-Americans tend to be the most liberal ethnic group of all Asian groups because of their experience with internment during WWII. Somehow they conveniently forgot that it was a Democrat president who put them in internment, and are now putting the blames squarely on the right for what happened. These Japanese-Americans are drinking the kool-aid big time, but in the 90s I remember a Japanese prime minister got in big trouble for saying America’s biggest problem is we have too many blacks and hispanics dragging us down.

    Filipinos, Hmongs and other Southeast Asians tend to be poor and rely on government largess to a certain extent, and also benefit from affirmative action at least in the state of CA, they also tend to be liberal.

    In this election cycle Indian-Americans have become the most vocal anti-Trumpers. From Indian politicians from WA state like Kshama Sawant, Pramila Jayapal to Indian entertainers like Aziz Ansari, Hasan Minaj, Kumail Nanjani, to Silicon Valley techies like Calexit mastermind VC Shervin Pishevar, Google CEO Sundra Pichai, all are socialist libtards. In my local election, several Indians are running for city council. All are first generation, all Democrats and champions of liberal policies. It’s as if they have amnesia(or just lower IQ), not remembering that socialism was why they had to leave the shithole India to begin with. A Korean American is running as a Republican.

    There are Chinese idiots like Ted Lieu and other asians who’ve gone to elite schools therefore drinking the kool-aid and insisted AA is good for Asian Americans, but most Koreans, Vietnamese and Chinese tend to be more conservative and lean Republican. During the Trump campaign Breitbart printed a story about a group of Chinese Americans voicing their support for Trump despite his anti-China rhetoric because they had no intention of seeing the US turned into another socialist shithole like China.

    Per the NYT a major reason Asians vote Republican is because of AA. Asians revere education, esp. the Chinese and Koreans, and they see holistic admission is largely bullshit set up by Jews to protect their legacy status while throwing a few bones to under qualified blacks and hispanics. Unfortunately it didn’t seem to dampen their desire to immigrate here. Given that there are 4 billion Asians and thanks to open borders, if it weren’t for AA all our top 100 schools will be 100% Asian in no time. I suggest we first curtail Asian immigration, limit their number to no more than 10,000 a year, then we can discuss dismantling AA.

  93. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    This is false. See:

    California sends far more to Washington than it sends back. Also, there is no correlation between percentage of federal land and dependence on federal funding. If there were, Delaware would be the least dependent state in the US.

    Clue: It isn’t.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  94. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    This is false. See:

    California sends far more to Washington than it sends back. Also, there is no correlation between percentage of federal land and dependence on federal funding. If there were, Maine would be among the least dependent states in the US.

    Clue: It isn’t.

  95. @Alden

    if the wiki is reliable. you shouldn’t be telling others like it is a cold hard fact. But still a very interesting read. thanks for bringing it up.

  96. @Alden

    But in the job market they have affirmative action aristocratic status over Whites.

    that is another bold claim. I know of black quotas, but asian quota???

    • Replies: @F the media
  97. @Astuteobservor II

    The Indian tribe in tech is known to favor Indians in hiring. I’ve read from other Indian posters elsewhere that Indian managers like to hire Indian underlings because they are easier to bully.

    Indian outsourcing firms like Infosys, TCS, Wipro are like 90% Indian, mostly imported directly from India, with token whites as admin or account manager.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  98. THe Realist says: • Website

    See #65 above. You die, too, boy.

    • Replies: @Truth
  99. @Carlton Meyer

    That’s pretty funny. The guy’s got balls. Probably son of some corrupt Chinese government official used to being treated like an emperor back home, ain’t taking no shit from black folks.

    I suppose this is what happens when universities clamor to accept foreign students because they are full pay. His tuition dollar is directly subsidizing these affirmative action hacks, who are now preventing him from studying. He has fully paid for his right to tell them to STFU.

    • Replies: @Truth
  100. Joe Wong says:

    Romans did not think Europe was a nice place to live, full of bloodthirsty barbarians, uneducated, smelly, dirty, foul mouth and rogue manner, even nowadays a lot of them cannot use full set of tableware to finish their meal, a single fork will do, it is a litte more civilized than those use fingers only.

    After a millennium of dark age of superstition, religious cult suppression, utter poverty medieval serf Europe, it followed by centuries of racial cleanses, complete destruction of war, stealing and hypocrisy on industrial scale, this time not only restricted to Europe the plague flooded the whole planet.

    Even nowadays the same plague from Europe and its offshoots in the North America is threatening to exterminate the human beings with a big bang for their blinding racial obligatory. The rest of the world only can hope this plague would stay put in North America and Europe, so the rest world can live in peace and prosperity.

    • Replies: @Issac
    , @Beckow
  101. Asians receive federal entitlements the same as the other protected class groups of diversity.

    Diversity ideology lectures us that Asians are oppressed by Occidentals.

    1. Preferential US immigration, citizenship, and asylum policies for Asian people
    2. Federal 8a set-aside government contracts for Asian owned businesses
    3. Affirmative Action for Asians especially toward obtaining government jobs
    4. Government anti-discrimination laws for Asians
    4. Government hate speech crime prosecutions in defense of Asians
    5. Sanctuary cities for illegal Asians, and other protected class groups of diversity
    6. Asian espionage directed at the US is common, and many times goes unprosecuted
    7. American trade policy allows mass importation of cheap Asian products built with slave labor
    8. Whaling allowance for some Asian ethnic groups
    9. Most H1-B visas awarded to Asians

    • Replies: @Thomm
  102. @Thomm

    Please stop trying to confuse Orientals with Indians and other subcontinentals. They are quite distinct.

    In their original countries they are, but in America they are almost identical in all ways except appearance and diet.

    And odor.

  103. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    It is MUCH better to be a libertarian than to be a Nationalist-Leftist. You have effectively admitted that you want intra-white socialism since you can’t hack it yourself.

    Socialists = untalented losers.

    Plus, I guarantee that your ancestors were not in America since 1776. You are just some 2nd-gen Polack or something.

  104. Thomm says:

    Do you favor affirmative action?

    Absolutely not. It is one of the worst things ever devised.

  105. Issac says:

    Sounds like a Jewish fantasy.

  106. Vinteuil says:
    @Priss Factor

    “Stalin brought back high culture and classical music. He favored traditionalist aesthetics to experimental or avant-garde ones.”

    Priss, you haven’t the first clue what you’re talking about, here. Stalin didn’t favor “traditionalist aesthetics” – he favored vulgar pop-crap.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  107. Issac says:
    @Joe Wong

    Ah yes, the whites are well known for their bigotry. That’s why they’re so mono-racial and China is so diverse. Good point Chang.

  108. Thomm says:
    @Joe Franklin

    That is completely false. You just memorized that from some bogus site.

    Section 8a is used more by white women than by Asians, and Asians get excluded from it due to high income. It should be done away with altogether, of course.

    Asians face discrimination in University admissions, as the main article describes.

    H1-Bs are awarded to Asians because white countries don’t produce enough people who qualify.

    Plus, Asian SAT scores are consistently higher than whites. That proves that Asian success was not due to AA.

    • Replies: @Joe Franklin
  109. Joe Wong says:

    the 110 year old Jewish black coalition will control

    I am not sure the Muslim and Indian will agree to that, they have a very strong birth rate that can match if not surpass the blacks too.

  110. Saxon says:

    Green isn’t a color that suits you. You’re a subcontinental hanger-on who’s only able to garner any success in any western country due to an anarcho-tyranny in enforcement against ethnonepotism as well as lavish handouts in the form of all sorts of party favors.

    There are very few non-white groups that could do any well on a level playing field with equal enforcement against nepotism, and yours isn’t one of them. Your country? Sad!

    • Replies: @Thomm
  111. Ron Unz says:

    Whites will gradually disappear and the 110 year old Jewish black coalition will control the Asians and Hispanics through black crime and periodic riots.

    I don’t think this is correct…

    Since California already has (very roughly) the future demographics you’re considering, I think it serves as a good test-case.

    The Hispanic and Asian populations have been growing rapidly, and they tend to hold an increasing share of the political power, together with the large white population, though until very recently most of the top offices were still held by (elderly) whites. Whites would have much more political power, except that roughly half of them are still Republicans, and the Republican Party has almost none.

    In most of the urban areas, there’s relatively little black crime these days since so many of the blacks have been driven away or sent off to prison. I’d also say that major black riots in CA are almost unthinkable since many of the local police forces are heavily Hispanic: they don’t particularly like blacks, and might easily shoot the black rioters dead while being backed up by the politicians, and many of the blacks probably recognize this. Admittedly, CA always had a relatively small black population, but that didn’t prevent enormous black crime and black riots in the past due to the different demographics.

    Meanwhile, Jewish-activists still possess enormous influence over CA politics, but they exert that influence through money and media, just like they do everywhere else in the country.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @uman
  112. @F the media

    that is actually true about indians. I have first hand account of a 100+ tech dept getting taken over by indians in just 3 years :/ but that is not a “quota” that is just indians abusing their power once in position of power.

  113. @Vinteuil

    Priss, you haven’t the first clue what you’re talking about, here. Stalin didn’t favor “traditionalist aesthetics” – he favored vulgar pop-crap.

    Right.. Ballet, Prokofiev, Shostakovich, and classic literature. That’s some pop crap.
    Soviet Culture was about commie Lena Dunhams.

    Now, most of Soviet culture was what might be called kitsch or middlebrow stuff, but it was not ‘pop crap’ as known in the West.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Vinteuil
  114. Truth says:
    @THe Realist

    LOL, if you’re the one holding the knife, hatchet, billy club or brick, I like my chances.

  115. Thomm says:

    Whatever helps you sleep at night..

    Yesterday I was called a Jew. Today, it is Indian. In reality, I am a white American guy.

    You white trashionalists can’t get your stories straight, can you? Well, WNs are known for having negro IQs.

    Asians don’t get affirmative action. They outscore whites in the SAT.

    But even blacks outscore WNs like you.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Saxon
  116. @Thomm

    You have reading comprehension problems to have confused Federal 8A government contacts with Section 8 housing.

    8A contracts are federal contracts granted to “socially and economically disadvantaged individual(s).”

    The business must be majority-owned (51 percent or more) and controlled/managed by socially and economically disadvantaged individual(s).

    The individual(s) controlling and managing the firm on a full-time basis must meet the SBA requirement for disadvantage, by proving both social disadvantage and economic disadvantage.

    Definition of Socially and Economically Disadvantaged Individuals

    Socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias because of their identities as members of groups without regard to their individual qualities. The social disadvantage must stem from circumstances beyond their control.

    In the absence of evidence to the contrary, the following individuals are presumed to be socially disadvantaged:

    • Black Americans;

    • Hispanic Americans (persons with origins from Latin America, South America, Portugal and Spain);

    • Native Americans (American Indians, Eskimos, Aleuts, and Native Hawaiians);

    • Asian Pacific Americans (persons with origins from Japan, China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Korea, Samoa, Guam, U.S. Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands [Republic of Palau], Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Laos, Cambodia [Kampuchea], Taiwan, Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei, Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, Macao, Hong Kong, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu, or Nauru);

    • Subcontinent Asian Americans (persons with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives Islands or Nepal);

    • And members of other groups designated from time to time by the SBA.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @dearieme
  117. Truth says:
    @F the media

    That’s pretty funny. The guy’s got balls.

    Nah, just some goofy nerd working on his PhD in Library Science.

    THIS Kat on the other hand is my N-!

  118. Beckow says:
    @Joe Wong

    Romans lived in Europe, get an atlas, Rome is in Europe. I will skip over your silly summaries of European history, we all can do it to any civilization all day. Pointless. Try China. Oh, I forgot, nobody knows much Chinese up and downs because it was mostly inconsequential.

    If you call others ‘racist’ all the time, they might just not take your seriously. Or simply say, fine, if liking one’s culture is now ‘racism’, if it is a white culture, then count me in. The rest of the world is tripping over itself to move – literally to physically move – to Europe and North America. Why do you think that is?

  119. Truth says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’d also say that major black riots in CA are almost unthinkable since many of the local police forces are heavily Hispanic: they don’t particularly like blacks, and might easily shoot the black rioters dead

    Oh, would you stop being a make-believe pundit, Ron? That is some commentary you copped from an OJ-era LA Times expose. You’ve had one conversation with a police officer in your life, and that was over an illegal left term outside the Loma Linda Starbucksand culminated in disturbing the peace when exited your Bentley yelling “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!?!” at the top of your lungs for 4 minutes.

    Whenever you’ve had a nudity-mandatory, eyes-wide-shut, type globalist-soiree at your palatial mansion, the only people you invited were politicians, lawyers, Ivy-league economists, Silicon Valley tech nerds…and hookers.

  120. Truth says:
    @Priss Factor

    They had to be into all that tired, boring, 11-century old shit; they didn’t have any black people.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  121. Thomm says:
    @Joe Franklin

    We’ve been over this. 8a is not given to anyone with over \$250,000 in assets, as your own link indicates. This means most Asians can’t use it anyway (not that they need to).

    The whole program should be done away with, of course.

    What is funny is that you can’t accept that Asians have higher SAT scores than whites, which pretty much proves that they can (and do) outperform without AA. You WN idiots can’t come to terms with that.

    But Section 8a should be removed just so that WN wiggers don’t have anything to hide behind, since Asians don’t need it to excel.

    • Replies: @Joe Franklin
  122. @Thomm

    These untalented Socialists you refer to would include the vast majority of America 1969…90 percent Native Born White America….a White Nation that placed two Alpha Native Born White American Males on the Moon….ten more after that. Seems that Socialism worked just fine.

    If you prefer an Asian Majority…you can always pack your bags and pick the Asian Nation of your choice.

  123. uman says:
    @Ron Unz

    hmm i don’t know that will be the case nationally. Southern cities like Atlanta will not have hispanic or white govt. Same with nyc, no need for blacks in harlem or bronx to leave if government aid continues to pay for rent controlled affordable housing. Same case can be made for most large northern cities like chicago, detroit, boston, philadelphia, DC, etc.

    So with future aa population of 14%, that’s 60 million blacks in america in 2060 timeframe, although that will have an increasing amount of immigration from africa, which tends to be more educated (at least 1st and 2nd generation).

    Asians will be about 8%, so that’s a poweful community of 40 million. I see tech and wall street with increasing amount of asian representations.

    What i would be interested in seeing if there will any maverick asian billionaires that could disrupt the narrative.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  124. Ronnie says:

    This article may tend to take your mind off the real racial injustice at Harvard. In an article “Affirmative Action Battle Has a New Focus: Asian-Americans” in the NY Times, August 3, 2017 ANEMONA HARTOCOLLIS and STEPHANIE SAUL wrote “”The Harvard lawsuit likens attitudes toward Asian-Americans to attitudes toward Jews at Harvard, beginning around 1920, when Jews were a high-achieving minority. In 1918, Jews reached 20 percent of the Harvard freshman class, and the university soon proposed a quota to lower the number of Jewish students.”” In my humble opinion this is a misleading statement which implies that the admission of Jews remained below 20% in the years after 1918. In fact Hillel reports that in recent years the admission of jews to Harvard has been around 25% of the class. This means that almost half of the class are white and half of this white group are Jews. That seems like an amazing over-representation of Jews who are only 2% of our population. So, at least as many Jews as Asians are admitted to Harvard. No wonder the Asians are upset. I note that this article does not point out this Jewish bias in admissions at Harvard and neither did the Asians. Is this another manifestation of political correctness? Or is it an egregious example of racism? This problem is the real elephant in the room. This is the Jewish racism that dare not speak its name. Until lately.

    • Replies: @Abracadabra
  125. @Thomm

    Thanks for changing the subject back to 8A contracts, a subject I first brought up.

    You ignorantly labeled me a liar and then prattled on about unrelated Section 8 housing.

    I’ve never mentioned anything about SAT scores because they are irrelevant to anything whatsoever that I’ve posted.

    SAT scores are your irrelevant preoccupation, not mine.

    I’m just a person that detests government diversity schemes, group entitlements, and federal protected class groups.

    Like it or not, Asians are one of many federal protected class groups entitled by law.

    I’m not a WN nor did I ever claim to be a WN; just another example of your fevered and imagined conversations with me.

    You are fairly stupid to claim that “most Asians” are rich.

    You appear to be a grossly ignorant and arrogant dickhead.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  126. @Truth

    Truth, you is so wise and true. You’s right. Them Russian dummies didn’t have no vibrant black folks to make fun music that could make them wiggle their butts all their night long. So, they grew stale and bored and drank too much vodka, caught fish with penis, and wrestled with bears and didn’t have the all the cool stuff like the US has.

    All the world needs to be colonized by superior Negroes cuz folks will just die of boredom.
    At least if you get killed by Negroes, it’s exciting-like.

    • Replies: @Truth
  127. Ron Unz says:

    hmm i don’t know that will be the case nationally. Southern cities like Atlanta will not have hispanic or white govt. Same with nyc, no need for blacks in harlem or bronx to leave if government aid continues to pay for rent controlled affordable housing. Same case can be made for most large northern cities like chicago, detroit, boston, philadelphia, DC, etc.

    Well, my California analogy was self-admittedly very rough and approximate given the considerable differences in demographics. But I strongly suspect that such considerations provide a hidden key to some contentious national policies of the last couple of decades, and I’ve actually written extensively on the subject:

  128. Thomm says:
    @Joe Franklin

    You are fairly stupid to claim that “most Asians” are rich.

    They have higher household income than whites. Many do not qualify for 8a (not that they needed).

    But yes, 8a should be abolished, just like ALL other affirmative action.

    SAT scores are your irrelevant preoccupation, not mine.

    It is relevant, because it demolishes your retarded belief that Asian success would not have happened without affirmative action.

    You really are quite lacking in basic intelligence. A typical white trashionalist.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  129. MarkinLA says:

    I imagine it was far different before the defense wind-downs of the mid 90s. Along with the many cut-backs a lot of defense was moved out of California by the contractors as punishment for California’s liberal Congressmen. Companies that merged with California based operation usually consolidated outside California such as when Raytheon swallowed up Hughes Aircraft Companies defense operations and moved R&D to Massachusetts.

  130. dearieme says:
    @Liberty Mike

    I know several white people who would rather live in Botswana than the Ukraine. They have the advantage of having visited . The rest of your list seems pretty sound with the possible exception of Swaziland.

    P.S. If you deleted Austria and Hungary and replaced them by Albania and Kosovo you might make your point even stronger.

  131. dearieme says:
    @Joe Franklin

    Good God, how absolutely awful to hale from Portugal, Spain, or Singapore.

  132. Saxon says:

    You’re non-white and really dumb to boot; you don’t understand the ecology of a society. Even the white proles are better than your people’s proles because they don’t make functional civilizations impossible. If it were possible for a tiny minority to drag the lowers upwards you would be able to haul your lower castes upwards and make your own country work, then the Brahmins would have done it. They can’t because the average abilities, intelligence and disposition of the masses is too low of quality in those countries to the point where tourists need to be given explicit warnings about rape and other problems which you will never need when visiting, say, some English village of completely average English people. The “white trash” you decry is probably only slightly below your midwit level of intelligence.

    Asians do get affirmative action in employment and promotions in the workplace by the way, just not in education.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  133. Truth says:
    @Priss Factor

    Alright, you’re finally starting to get it.

  134. MarkinLA says:

    I seem to remember you telling everybody that Asians DON’T get affirmative action JUST GOOGLE IT without ever offering proof. Of course it never occurred to you that there could never be any documented proof of something like that. There isn’t even official documented proof that white males don’t get affirmative action. When people claimed and linked to articles indicating Asians are considered disadvantaged by the government, you claimed those people didn’t know what they were talking about JUST GOOGLE IT.

    I think you made it quite obvious who the idiot is.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  135. It’s time to force our “Golden Dozen” (Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Amherst and Williams) to admit 100% black until the average black income(\$43k) equals that of average white income(\$71k).

    I’m Asian and I approve of this message.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  136. Anonymous [AKA "Azn_bro"] says:

    The worst hate crimes I have personally witnessed were perpetrated by black men. I have also seen more casual racism against Asians from blacks than from whites. This might be different in other parts of the country or world.

    Outside of the U.S., East Asians are the least likely to want to engage in some kind of anti-white alliance since all of the West’s most embarrassing military defeats have come from East Asians. We have always relied on guns and not white guilt for racial equality.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  137. @Ronnie

    In case you haven’t noticed, Jews run this country. They dominate the media, academia, Wall Street, Hollywood, Capitol Hill via the DNC and lobbying firms, Silicon Valley. Per the NYT 80% of Jews are self-proclaimed liberals. They are obsessed with dismantling the WASP World Order that in their mind has oppressed them for the last 2000 years. The Ivy League is the pipeline to these 6 sectors that collectively control the country, whoever controls Harvard controls the country. Jews not only make up majority of the elite college faculty (esp. in the social sciences) but are disproportionately benefiting from legacy admission and development cases(admission of the dim witted sons and daughters of the rich and famous like Malia Obama, Jared Kushner, all of Al Gore’s kids).

    Asians are the next up. Practically all Asians who’ve gone to the Ivy League or Stanford have voiced their support for affirmative action, many are left wing nuts like the Jews. CA house representative Ted Liu is one such kool-aid drinking Asian libtard, along with the HI judge Derrick Watson and Baltimore judge Theodore Chuang, both of whom blocked Trump’s temp. suspension of Muslim refugees, both went to Harvard Law. As an Asian I would be more than happy if the Ivy League simply make themselves off limits to all Asians and turn their schools 100% black. We don’t need more Asians to get indoctrinated in their dumb liberal ideology and go down in history as the group next to the Jews and the blacks who destroyed America.

  138. Thomm says:

    Asians do get affirmative action in employment and promotions in the workplace by the way, just not in education.

    No they don’t, as this very article explains. Could you BE more of a retard?

    Plus, the fact that Asians get higher SAT scores than whites proves that they don’t need it. There is a left-wing conspiracy to hide Asian success.

    Now, regarding an underachieving WN faggot like you :

    Remember that white variance is very high. Excellent whites (like me) exist only because genetic waste master has to be removed from the other end of the process. You and other WNs represent that genetic waste matter, and that is why white women are doing a heroic duty of cutting you off (at least the minority of WNs that are straight. Most are gay, as Jack Donovan has explained). Nature wants the waste matter you comprise of to be expelled.

    If you cared about the white race, you would be extremely glad that white women are cutting you off, as that is necessary to get rid of the pollution that you represent.

    Heh heh heh heh…. it is so much fun to put a WN faggot in its place.

    Heh heh heh heh

    • Replies: @Saxon
  139. Thomm says:

    Yes, what you say is true.

    Any real American would be proud of Asian success, as that represents the American Dream that our country was founded on.

  140. Thomm says:

    No, I talked about 8a even two weeks ago. Good god, you WN really do have negro IQs.

    8a benefits Asians the least, and THE WHOLE THING SHOULD BE ABOLISHED ANYWAY. There should be no AA, ever.

    8a harms Asians as it taints their otherwise pristine claim to having succeeded without AA. They don’t need 8a, most don’t qualify for it as they exceed the \$250,000 cutoff, and it lets WN faggots claim that ‘all of Asian success is due to AA’, which is demonstrably false.

    Read this slowly, 10 times, so that even a wigger like you can get it.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  141. Thomm says:

    Heh.. good one.

    Don’t let these WN faggots get away with claiming all of Asian success is merely due to affirmative action. In reality, Asians don’t get affirmative action (other than wrongly being included in the Section 8a code form the 1980s, which ultimately was used by barely 2% of the Asian community).

    Remember that among us whites, variance is extremely high. The prettiest woman alongside pretty of ugly fat feminists (who the WN losers still worship). The smartest men, and then these loserish WNs with low IQs and no social skills. White variance is very high.

    That is why WNs are so frustrated. They can’t get other whites to give them the time of day, and white women are super-committed to shutting out WN loser males from respectable society.

    Don’t let them claim that Asian success is solely due to affirmative action. Remember, respectable whites hate these WN faggots.

    • Replies: @Abracadabra
  142. Saxon says:

    You’re not white, though. You’re a rentseeker hanging onto someone else’s country and the fact that you write barely literate garbage posts with no substance to them tells all about your intellect and your “high achievement.” You’re not high quality. You’re mediocre at best and probably not even that since your writing is so bad.

    Do you even do statistics, though? Whites make up about 70% of the national merit scholars in the US yet aren’t in the Ivies at that rate. Harvard for example is maybe only 25% white. Asians are over-represented compared to their merit and jews way over-represented over any merit. Now how does that happen without nepotism? The whole system of any racial favoritism should be scrapped but of course that wouldn’t benefit people like you, Thomm.

  143. Whites aren’t more innovative and ambitious than Chinese people. You only have to look at the chinless Unite the Right idiots in Charlottesville to dispel any idea that whites are the superior race. The

  144. üeljang says:

    This Thomm character is obviously of East Asian origin. His tedious, repetitive blather about Asians, white women, and “white nationalist faggots” is a telltale sign. One of his type characteristically sounds like he would be so much less distressed if those white males were not white nationalist faggots.

  145. @Tom Welsh

    An interesting historical argument My reply Land isn’t money Arguably the Normans came back in the form of the Plantagenets to contest the French throne in the 100 Years War. But by that time France wasn’t nearly so feeble

    Giving Negroes land in the form of a North American homeland appeals to me (provided whites get one too) although I know the geography is agonizing Blacks tend not to like this suggestion–they realize how depedent they are on whites That wasn’t true of the Normans–quite self-reliant fellows!

  146. @Thomm

    I’m not sure what it was that I said that made you think I think all Asian success is due to AA. In fact I think the opposite is true, that Asians succeed in spite of AA, which is set up solely to hinder Asians from joining the club, and as far as I’m concern, it’s a club of sell-out globalist libtards that I wouldn’t want more Asians to join.

    I’ve worked in tech long enough to know that in tech, no one gives a fudge where you went to school. I am surrounded by deca-millionaires who went to state schools, many aren’t even flagship, some didn’t even study STEM. Some didn’t even go to college or graduate. The only people I know who still care about the Ivy League are 1st generation often FOB China/India trash, and a small number of Jewish kids looking to benefit from legacy admission, most are gay and/or serious libtards.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  147. You can tell that Jewish achievement has fallen off a cliff as Ron Unz asserted by looking at a certain popular college website. The longest running thread that’s been up there for nearly a decade with over a thousand pages and over 18,000 posts is called “Colleges for the Jewish “B” student”. The site is crawling with uber liberal Jewish mothers and monitored by a gang of Ivy graduated SJWs who strictly enforce their “safe space”, posters who post anything at all that might offend anyone (affirmative action is always a sensitive topic) are either thrown in “jail” i.e. ban from posting for a month, or kicked off altogether. The SJW forum monitors even directly edit user comments as they see fit, first amendment rights be damned. This is the future of all online forums if the left have their way, the kind of censorship that Piers Morgan advocates.

  148. Thomm says:

    Not *you*, them.

    There are plenty of KKK losers on here claiming that Asian success is due to AA. I am saying you should join me in fighting them.

    Note the comments above from Saxon, MarkinLA, etc. They are alll White Trashionalists.

  149. Thomm says:

    Asians are over-represented compared to their merit

    False. The main article here alone proves otherwise, plus dozens of other research articles.

    You just can’t stand that Asian success is due to merit. But you have bigger problems, since as a WN, you can’t even compete with blacks.

    What bugs you the most is that successful white people like me never give WN faggots the time of day. Most tune you idiots out, but I like to remind you that you are waste matter that is being expunged through the natural evolutionary process.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  150. Vinteuil says:
    @Priss Factor

    Priss, please, please, please try to get this right:

    Stalin DID NOT favor Prokofiev, or Shostakovich. He treated them exactly the same way he treated everybody else – like dirt under his feet.

    Shostakovich’s (admittedly disputed) memoirs are essential reading, here. Please check them out before you say anything more.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  151. Vinteuil says:

    “…successful white people like me never give WN faggots the time of day…”

    So you’ve got a problem with “faggots?”

    • Replies: @Thomm
  152. Thomm says:

    So you’ve got a problem with “faggots?”

    Yes, more so if they are leftists (including Nationalist-Leftists like WNs are). But the fact that WNs are disproportionately gay (as Jack Donovan points out) also explains why they tend to look grotesque, and it supports the scientific rationale that they are wastebaskets designed to expedite the removal of genetic waste matter.

    White variance in talent/looks/intelligence is high. WN loser males and fat, ugly feminists represent the bottom. In the old days, these two would be married to each other since even the lowest tiers were paired up. Today, thankfully, both are being weeded out.

  153. I just realized something. a commenter like thomm is the perfect counter to some of the others. hahaha.

  154. @Saxon

    God! you are stupid, Saxon… he isn’t a Paki, he is a Chinaman. No wonder the Normans put you guys in thrall!

  155. @Alden

    Sure you can… why not go back to Europe to replace the growing number of Muslims? It can kill two birds with a single shor!

    • Replies: @Thomm
  156. Thomm says:
    @Pachyderm Pachyderma

    Not just that, but some of these ‘white nationalists’ are just recent immigrants from Poland and Ukraine. They are desperate to take credit for Western Civilization that they did nothing to create. Deep down, they know that during the Cold War, they were not considered ‘white’ in America.

    400 years? i.e. when most of what is now the lower-48 was controlled by a Spanish-speaking government? Yeah… Many of these WNs have been here only 30-70 years. That is one category (the domestic WN wiggers are the other)…

    Both are equally underachieving and loserish.

  157. MarkinLA says:

    It’s too late, everybody knows what I wrote is true and that you are some pathetic millennial libertarian pajama boy. The sad fact is that you can’t even man up and admit that you wrote that BS about “Asians don’t get affirmative action just google it”. See that would have at least have been a sign of maturity, admitting you were wrong.

    There is no point reading anything, even once, from a pathetic pajama boy like you.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  158. Thomm says:

    I openly said that I am proud to be libertarian. Remember, talented people can hack in on their own, so they are libertarians.

    Untalented losers (like you) want socialism so that you can mooch off of others.

    Plus, Asians don’t get affirmative action outside of one obscure place (Section 8a) which they often don’t qualify for (\$250K asset cutoff), don’t need, and was never used by more than 2% of the Asian-American community. The fact that Asian SAT scores are higher than whites explains why Asians outperform without AA.

    Plus, this very article says that Asians are being held back. A WN faggot like you cannot grasp that even though you are commenting in the comments of this article. Could you be any dumber?

    I realize you are not smart enough to grasp these basic concepts, but that is why we all know that white trashionalists have negro IQs.

    Now begone; you are getting in the way of your betters.

    Heh heh heh heh…

  159. Thomm says:

    Remember that White variance in brains/looks/talent/character is extremely high. Hence, whites occupy both extremities of human quality.

    Hence, the hierarchy of economic productivity is :

    Talented whites (including Jews)
    Asians (East and South)
    Untalented whites (aka these WN wastebaskets, and fat femtwats).

    That is why :

    1) WNs are never given a platform by respectable whites.
    2) Bernie Sanders supporters are lily-white, despite his far-left views.
    3) WN is a left-wing ideology, as their economic views are left-wing.
    4) WNs are unable to even get any white women, as white women have no reason to pollute themselves with this waste matter. Mid-tier white women thus prefer nonwhite men over these WNs, which makes sense based on the hierarchy above.
    5) WNs have the IQ of Negros, the poor social skills of an Asian spazoid, etc. They truly combine the worst of all worlds.
    6) This is why white unity is impossible; there is no reason for respectable whites to have anything to do with white trashionalists.
    7) Genetically, the very fact that superb whites even exists necessitates the production of individuals to act as wastebaskets for removal of genetic waste. WNs are these wastebaskets.
    8) The 80s movie ‘Twins’ was in effect a way to make these wastebaskets feel good, as eventually, the Arnold Schwarzenegger character bonded with the Danny DeVito character. But these two twins effectively represent the sharp bimodal distribution of white quality. Successful whites are personified by the Schwarzenegger character, while WNs by the DeVito character. In reality, these two would never be on friendly terms, as nature produces waste for a reason.

    This pretty much all there is to what White Trashionalists really are.

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  160. TWS says:

    Tiny Duck? You decided to larp under a different handle?

  161. Elite colleges are a prime example of left wing hypocrisy. The same people who are constantly calling for an equal society are at the same time perpetuating the most unequal society by clamoring to send their kids to a few elite schools that will ensure their entry to or retain their ranks among the elites. Equality for everyone else, elitism for me and my kids. David Brook’s nausea inducing self-hating pablum “How we are ruining America” is a prime example of this hypocrisy.

    Another good example of left wing hypocrisy is on “school integration”. The same people who condemn “bad schools” for the urban poor and call for more integration are always the first to move into the whitest possible neighborhoods as soon as they have kids. They aren’t willing to sacrifice their own kids, they just want other people to sacrifice their children by sending them to bad schools.

    If the left didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

  162. Look, the world is short handed: we need good help or we pay dues.

    Affirmative action and the EEOC are not the answer.

    When you need help you get help and don’t care if they are green [in the color sense or have supernumerary digits.

    I don’t need agreement with my whimsy, I just need people who will turn to.

  163. Gene Su says:

    When I first saw the title of this article, I, being an Asian, was a tad insulted. It smelled like Dr. Weissberg was attempting to create (or at least escalate) racial strife between Asians and blacks. I then read through the article and evaluated the bad and the good.

    First the bad: Dr. Weissberg’s assertion that Asians are being hurt by the Affirmative Action promotion of blacks is a bit exaggerated. This is because most Asians go into rigorous difficult programs such as engineering, science, and medicine. Most black affirmative action babies go into soft programs such as Black Studies (and whatever else the humanities have degenerated into).

    Now the good: I think this is the most true portion of the essay.

    Better to have the handsomely paid Cornel West pontificating about white racism at Princeton where he is a full professor than fulminating at some Ghetto street corner. This status driven divide just reflects human nature. Why would a black Yalie on Wall Street socialize with the bro’s left behind in the Hood? This is the strategy of preventing a large-scale, organized rebellion by decapitating its potential leadership.

    I have once wrote that whites stopped sneering at MLK when Malcolm X and the Black Panthers began taking center stage. They sure became more accommodating of “moderate” blacks. With all of the terrorist attacks going on and with blacks converting to Islam, I don’t think we’re going to get rid of affirmative action any time soon.

  164. This is a politically plausible but morally craven plan, if we’re in … 1960.


  165. @Vinteuil

    Stalin alternated between favoritism and intimidation. The truth is he did have an eye and ear for culture… unlike Mao who was a total philistine.

    If Stalin really hated artists, he would have killed all of them.

    He appreciated them but kept a close eye.

    He loved the first IVAN THE TERRIBLE by Eisenstein, but he sensed that the second one was a criticism of him, and Eisenstein came under great stress.

  166. Vinteuil says:

    OK, well, Stalin loved the movies, and may have had an eye for effective cinema. But when it came to music he was, precisely, a total philistine. On this point, I again recommend Shostakovich’s disputed *Testimony,* a work unique in its combination of hilarity and horror, both of which come to a head in his account of the competition to write a new national anthem to replace the internationale – pp. 256-64. A must read.

  167. DB Cooper says:

    Can you explain why if South Asians has such high economic productivity India is such a sh*thole?

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @rec1man
    , @Anonymous
  168. @Rdm

    That’s the second comment here picking on bald guys.

    What do you have against the bald?

    You do realise that it’s not possible to control baldness? It’s an outcome of genetics, yes?

    You do also realise that there is zero correlation between baldness and the quality of one’s character?

    Are you really as stupid as you appear to be?

  169. Thomm says:
    @DB Cooper

    For the same reason North Korea is poorer than South Korea, despite being the same people.
    For the same reason the GDR was so much poorer than the FRG, despite the same people.

    You probably never even thought about that.

    A bad political system takes decades to recover from. Remember that the British also strip-mined India for 200 years..

    Come on, these are novice questions…

    If you think the success of Asian-Americans in general (and Indian-Americans in particular) does not jive with your beliefs, then the burden of explaining what that is, is on you.

    Indians happen to be the highest-income group in the US. Also very high are Filipinos and Taiwanese.

    Most WNs are far, far below the intellectual level where they can grasp the complexities of issues like this.

  170. Thomm says:

    BTW, the economic center of gravity of the world has always been near Asia, except for a 200-year period from 1820-2020.

    That the West would cede to Asia is really just a reversion to the historical norm.

    WNs are not smart enough to understand maps/charts like this one, but others will find this interesting.

  171. Anonymous [AKA "Russ Nieli"] says:


    Racial preferences were ended at California public institutions — including the elite public universities Berkley and UCLA — by ballot initiative. No black violence ensued. There is little reason to think the black response would be different if the 8 Ivy League universities ended their policies of racial preferences. Blacks would adjust their expectations. Fear of black rioting and the desire to jumpstart the creation of a large and peaceful black middle class may have been important motives for the initial development of racial preference policies in the late 1960s; they are not major reasons for their retention and continued support from white administrators today. Other reasons and motives are operative (including what I call R-word dread).
    PS: Cornel West has moved from Princeton to Harvard Divinity School.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  172. Avalanche says:

    “Nevertheless, when all added up, the costs would be far lowers than dealing with widespread 1960s style urban violence.”

    Except back in the ’60’s; the White, Euro-derived people were unwilling to fight back. They felt guilty and half-blamed themselves. Not. Any. More! The costs — social, mental, emotional, physical; pick your metric! — have now exceeded the patience of WAY more Americans than the media is letting on.

    Did you not see 20- and 30-THOUSAND, mostly White Euro-derived, Americans rallying to candidate — and now President — Trump’s side? (No, the media carefully clipped the videos to hide those numbers, but there they (we!) were! We’re done! We’re fed up! “FEEDING” these destructive vermin to keep them from destroying our houses and families (and nation and country!) is no longer acceptable! You “don’t let Gremlins eat after midnight”? Well, we did — and now we’re in a war against them.

    You think this capitulating in education is preventing ‘widespread 1960s-style urban violence? Have you not watched the news? We pretty much already are: ask NYC how many “sliced with a knife” attacks they have there! In JUST Jan. and Feb., there were well more than 500! (Seriously vicious attacks with knives and razor blades — media mentioned it once for a few days, and then shut up.) Look at the fair in Indianapolis; count up rape statistics; investigate the “knock-out game” (“polar bear hunting” — guess who’s the polar bear?!). (Oh yeah, and: Ferguson, Baltimore, Chicago; look at ANY black-filled ruin of a city…) If (when!) we finally have to (CHOOSE to) deal with this low-grade war — WHO is better armed, better prepared, SMARTER, and fed up?

    “This peace-keeping aspect of affirmative action understood, perhaps we ought to view those smart Asians unfairly rejected from Ivy League schools as sacrificial lambs.”

    Wait, wait — these are White schools, built by White Americans FOR White Americans! “Oh, the poor Asians are not getting their ‘fair share’ cause the blacks are getting way more than their ‘fair share’?! The Asians’ ‘fair share’ is GO HOME!! The Asians don’t have a ‘fair share’ in White AMERICAN universities; we LET them come here and study — and that is a KINDNESS: they don’t have a ‘fair share’ of OUR country! How about: stop giving preferences to every damned race and nationality other than the one that BUILT this country and these universities!

    Check your premises!

  173. Avalanche says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Call them what they are: “paperwork Americans”! Having the paperwork does NOT make them Americans, and nothing ever will!

    Imagine a virgin land with no inhabitants: if you took all the Chinese “Americans” or all the Pakistani “Americans” or Black “Americans” or Mexican “Americans” (funny, why did you leave those last two out?! Way more of them than the others…) and moved them there, would they — COULD they ever — create another America? No, they would create another China, or another Pakistan — or their own version of the hellholes their forebears (or they themselves) came from. ONLY White, ONLY Euro-derived Americans could recreate an America.

    And this goes, also, to answer the grumbling “Native” Americans who were also NOT native, yes? Siberia, Bering land bridge, ever heard of those? Do you not even know your own pre-history?! What “America” was here when it was a sparse population of warring tribes of variously related Indian groups? What did your forebears make of this continent?

    Nothing. There would be no “America” where everyone wants to come and benefit by taking; because ONLY the White settlers (not immigrants: SETTLERS!) were able to create America! And as all you non-Americans (AND paperwork “Americans”) continue to swamp and change America for your own benefit — you will be losing the very thing you came here to take (unfair!) advantage of!

  174. Avalanche says:

    At that point, new public money could be channeled into funding people to leave. Blacks that don’t like it in the U.S. would be given X amount of dollars to settle in an African country of their choice.

    Chip ’em and ship ’em! Microchip where they CAN’T ‘dig it out’ to prevent them from ever ever ever returning! And ship ’em out! I’d pay a LOT to have this done!

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  175. Avalanche says:

    Give the feral negroes what they have been asking for. Pull all law enforcement out of negro hellholes like Detroit and South Chicago and let nature take its course.

    They (we!) tried that years ago. The BLACK COPS SUED because they were working in the shittiest places with the shittiest, most violent people — and “the White cops had it easy.”

    NOT EVEN the blacks want to be with the blacks — hence them chasing down every last White person, to inflict their Dis-Verse-City on us!

  176. Avalanche says:

    The larger the immigrant group, the longer it takes to assimilate them.

    Alas, typical “paperwork American” lack of understanding! I wrote this to a (White) American who wants to keep importing everyone (“save the children!”) — and, she insisted, they “could” assimilate. However, here’s what ‘assimilate” means:

    Suppose you and your family decided to move to, say, Cambodia. You go there intending to “get your part of the Cambodian dream,” you go there to become Cambodian citizens, to assimilate and join them, not to invade and change them. You want to adopt their ways, to *assimilate.* Yes? This is how you describe legal immigrants to OUR country (The United States.)

    How long would it take for you and your children to be (or even just feel) “assimilated”? How long would it take for you to see your descendants as “assimilated” — AS Cambodians? Years? Decades? Generations? Would you be trying to fit in — and “become” Cambodians; or would you be trying to not forget your heritage? (“Heritage”?! Like, Cinco de Mayo, which they don’t even celebrate IN Mexico? Or Kwanza — a CIA-invented completely fake holiday!)

    More important: since it’s their country — how long until THEY see you as “Cambodians” and not foreigners. I know a man and family who have lived in Italy for over 20 years. To the Italians in the village where they live, they are still “stranieri”: strangers. After this long, to the local Italians, they’re not just “the Americans who moved here” — they’re “our Americans” — but they are still seen as 100% not Italian, not local: not “assimilated”!

    Would you and your children and grandchildren learn to speak, read, and write Cambodian — and stop trying to use English for anything much in your new homeland? Would you join their clubs — would you join their NATIONAL RELIGION!? Does “becoming Cambodian” — does “assimilating” — not actually include (trying to) become Cambodian (and, thus, ceasing to be American)? (If that were even possible; and it’s not.) “Assimilation” is a stupid hope, not a possible reality.

    That is where my friend balked. She said: she and her family are very Christian, and no way at all ever would they drop Christianity and pick up Cambodian Buddhism. So — how can they EVER “assimilate” when they (quite rightly) REFUSE to assimilate?!

    Please stop buying into the lies the destroyers of OUR nation keep selling. There is no such thing as “assimilation”; only economic parasitism, jihadi invasion, and benefiting from the systems set up by OUR forebears for THEIR posterity!

    • Replies: @Incontrovertible
  177. Avalanche says:
    @Priss Factor

    Just because National Socialism had some leftist elements doesn’t make it a ‘leftist’ ideology.

    Yes. Yes it does. Go watch/listen to:

    The official topic being debated is: “Are National Socialists a legitimate element of the Alt-Right?”
    Greg Johnson argues, Yes.
    Vox Day argues, No.

  178. rec1man says:
    @DB Cooper

    Socialism and Affirmative Action

    In my origin state of Tamil Nadu, the effective anti-brahmin quota is 100% ( de-jure is just 69% )

    Sundar Pichai or Indira Nooyi or Vish Anand ( former Chess champ ) or Ramanujam ( late math whiz ), cant get a Tamil Nadu State Gov , Math school teacher job

    Also, the US gets a biased selection of Indians in terms of caste, class and education

    Of Tamil Speakers in USA, about 50% are Tamil Brahmins, vs just 2% in India

    The bottom 40% in terms of IQ, such as Muslims, Untouchables and Forest Tribals, are no more than 10% in the US Indian diaspora

    For comparison, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis ( muslim ), perform much much lower

    • Replies: @Thomm
  179. Thomm says:

    For comparison, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis ( muslim ), perform much much lower

    This is interesting, as it puts paid to the obsession that WN idiots have with ‘whiteness’.

    Pakistan is obviously much more Caucasoid than India and certainly Sri Lanka.

    Afghanistan is whiter still. Many in Afghanistan would pass for bona-fide white in the US.

    Yet Sri Lanka is richer than India, which is richer than Pakistan, which is richer than Afghanistan.

    Either Islam is a negative factor that nullifies everything else including genetics, or something else is going on.

    What there is no doubt of is that Asia has been the largest economic region of the world by far except for the brief 200-year deviation (1820-2020), as per that map I posted.

    • Replies: @rec1man
  180. UtherWhys says:

    Weissberg asks, “Why would a black Yalie on Wall Street socialize with the bro’s left behind in the Hood?”

    Why focus on the LEFT buttock? His point would be as relevant were he to ask, “Why would a black Yalie on Wall Street socialize with the bro’s RIGHT behind in the Hood?” Either way, I smell kinkyness deep within Weissberg’s question.

  181.         Not protection money.  Imperialism.

            “Divide and Rule” said the Romans.  Incorporate the potential leaders of those you intend to rule into your hereditary upper class, and the vast majority will stay inert at the least.  And many will actively support you.  See this post by a black woman: Black Americans: The Organized Left’s Expendable Shock Troops.

            People like Cornel West are not only NOT rabble-rousing in the ’hood, they’re telling blacks to support the people who actively keep them poor.  “Affirmative Action” is designed to sabotage its alleged goals.  Almost all who ‘benefit’ from it end up among people whose performance is clearly superior to their own, thus fostering feelings of inferiority, subtly communicating that it doesn’t matter what the ‘beneficiary’ of AA does, they’ll always fail.  This is no accident.

            Without AA, there might still be separation, (consider “ultra-orthodox” Jews), but the separate groups would have to be treated with some respect.  Really, viewed amorally, it’s a marvelous system for oppressing whites and minorities.

  182. rec1man says:

    Islam is a negative factor, and the higher IQ castes did not convert to Islam

    I have data from California National Merit list, IQ-140 bar

    Among Indian Punjabis ;
    Jat Sikh peasants = 3 winners ( 75% of Punjabis in USA )
    Khatri merchants = 18 winners ( 25% of Punjabis in USA )

    Both are extremely caucasoid, both appear heavily among Indian bollywood stars ; genetically very similar, just the evolutionary effect of caste selection for merchant niche vs peasant niche

    • Replies: @Thomm
  183. MarkinLA says:

    Racial preferences were ended at California public institutions — including the elite public universities Berkley and UCLA — by ballot initiative.

    But the admissions people immediately started using other dodges like “holistic” admissions policies where they try and figure out if your are a minority from other inferences such as your essay where you indicate “how you have overcome”. They also wanted to get rid of the SAT or institute a top X% at each school policy.

  184. Thomm says:

    I don’t know…. a lot of the richest Indians in the US are Gujratis who own motels and gas stations. Patels and such..

    They were not of some ‘high caste’ in India; far from it.

    Plus, a Tamil who is of ‘high caste’ is not Caucasoid in the least. Caste does not seem to correlate to economic talent, since business people are the #3 caste out of 4. The richest people in India today are not ‘Brahmins’..

    Islam is a negative factor, and the higher IQ castes did not convert to Islam

    I disagree. Pakistan is 99% Islam, so all castes converted to Islam and/or many of the lighter-skined Pakistanis are Persians and Turks who migrated there..

    Afghanistan’s religion prior to Islam was Buddhism, not Hinduism…

    • Replies: @rec1man
  185. rec1man says:

    Afghanistan was 33% Hindu, 66% buddhist before islam, but in actual practise lots of overlap between Hinduism and Buddhism, and many families had mixed Indic religions

    Pakistan was 22% non-muslim in 1947, these 22% were higher caste Hindus and Sikhs – all got driven out in 1947 ; Pakistan is low IQ islamic sludge residue of Punjabi society

    I am Tamil speaking, 80% of Tamil brahmins ( 2% ) can be visually distinguished from the 98% Tamil Dravidians ;

    = Padma Lakshmi , tamil brahmin


    Tamil dravidian

    • Replies: @Truth
  186. Thomm you take up too much oxygen in the room insisting on the importance your opinions, the whole conversation is much more interesting when i skip past your stupid WN focused city boy sheltered viewpoint. Big words and that retarded hehehe thing you do would get you wrastled to the ground and your face rubbed in the dirt

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @Thomm
  187. Truth says:

    Does anyone want to fill in my comment here in “Miss” Lakshimi?

  188. Thomm says:

    By you and what army?

    Remember, WNs represent the absolute bottom of every desirable trait.

    Heh heh heh heh

  189. Anonymous [AKA "Bill the Kid"] says:
    @jim jones

    They look the same because they are all clones of the same body.

  190. Anonymous [AKA "Not Another Unz Commenter"] says:

    Why would ‘idiot WNs’ be happy about the fact that blacks successfully chased asians out of the country, though? That would be a sign that they are gaining a scary degree of power, would it not? Moreover how are white males who want to escape SJW idiocy going to like a country that still actively enforces all sorts of thought control policies of its own? You wannabe libertardian analysts always say silly things like this and it just sounds dumber every time.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  191. Thomm says:

    Why would ‘idiot WNs’ be happy about the fact that blacks successfully chased asians out of the country, though? That would be a sign that they are gaining a scary degree of power, would it not?

    It would be, but WN retards don’t think that far.

    You wannabe libertardian analysts always say silly things like this and it just sounds dumber every time.

    This is what WNs want, not want I want. It is easy to predict WN opinions.

    Plus, being a libertarian is much more desirable than being a WN socialist. Talented people thrive in a libertarian society. WN losers just want to mooch off of successful whites.

  192. JohnMc says:

    “Better to have the handsomely paid Cornel West pontificating about white racism at Princeton where he is a full professor than fulminating at some Ghetto street corner.”

    Really? All that does is give the man a bigger sanctioned soap box. In the ghetto he might affect a couple of hundred people. Siting in academia he gets a lever than can affect tens of thousands. Not a good trade.

  193. Anonymous [AKA "S. B. Woo"] says:

    Dear Mr. Weissberg.

    Truth is often stranger than fictions. The real reason for discriminating against Asian Ams is not to help make the other minority happy. It is to benefit the whites. The Ivy League schools are using the diversity to give the white applicants an advantage of 140 pst in SAT points. Please see below:

    In Table 3.5 on p 92 of Princeton Prof. Espenshade’s famous book, “No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal”, the following shocking fact was revealed:

    Table 3.5 (emphasis added)
    Race Admission Preferences at Public & Private Institutions
    Measured in ACT & SAT Points, Fall 1997
    Public Institutions Private Institutions
    ACT-Point Equivalents SAT-Point Equivalents
    Item (out of 36) (out of 1600)
    (White) — —
    Black 3.8 310
    Hispanics 0.3 130
    Asian -3.4 -140

    Why are 140 SAT pts. taken away from AsAm applicants? To give the white applicants an advantage of 140 SAT pts. over the historically disadvantaged AsAms by using the nobility of diversity as a cover? This is the reverse of affirmative action. This is a gross abuse of affirmation action. This is outrageous discrimination. If
    the purpose is to give the blacks an advantages, why not add more SAT points to blacks and hispanics?

    S.B. Woo

  194. @Avalanche

    That’s an interesting point you brought up, whether anyone can ever really be “assimilated”. Even after hundreds of years, blacks and Jews in this country remain very distinct groups. I think for blacks the reason is skin color and culture, while for Jews it is the religion. Both groups have had low out marriage rate until maybe the last couple of decades.

    Assimilation is most successful when there’s a high intermarriage rate, but intermarriage rate and immigration rate tend to go in opposite directions. The higher the immigration rate, the lower the intermarriage rate.

    Hispanics and Asians have been in this country since the 1800s yet you rarely ever meet a hispanic or Asian person who’s been here for more than 3 or 4 generations. Why is that? I think it’s because many of these earlier groups, due to their small number at the time relative to the population, had intermarried, blended in and disappeared. I would say these earlier immigrants have fully assimilated. The ones who are unassimilated are the new arrivals, those who arrived in large numbers since 2000.

    But for some peculiar reason blacks who are mixed with whites often continue to identify as blacks. We see this in Obama, Halle Barry, Vanessa Williams and many other black/white mixes. Black identity is so strong even Indian-black mixed race people call themselves black, like Kamala Harris.

    My theory is that most white-hispanic and white-asian marriages are white males with hispanic/asian females. In most cases the white males who married hispanic/asian women are conservatives who prefer women in cultures that are perceived to be more traditional compared to white females who are often selfish and want a divorce at the first sign of personal unhappiness. Many of them then raise their children in full white traditions including as Christians and encourage them to identify themselves as whites.

    OTOH, many white-black mix marriages are white female with black male, in many instances these women marry black men because they are liberal nuts who want to raise black children. Jewish women for instance marry black men at a high rate. Many of these women then raise their children as black or biracial children and encourage their children to identify themselves as black.

    Education used to be the biggest tool for assimilation, but these days thanks to libtards running amok, our schools are where racial identity is amplified rather than de-emphasized. Now all minority groups are encouraged to take pride in their own cultural identity and eschew mainstream (white) culture. Lured by affirmative action, more and more mixed race hispanic kids are beginning to identify themselves as latino. Thankfully mixed race Asian kids are running in the opposite direction and now mostly identify themselves as white so they are not disadvantaged by AA.

    I think assimilation can occur when you have low immigration rate coupled with high intermarriage rate and a smart education system that discourages racial and individual identity and focuses on a single national identity. The biggest reason assimilation is failing now is a combination of high immigration rate, and a failed education system that promotes identity politics and victimhood narrative. The internet and easy air travels back to the homeland also make it much harder to assimilate newcomers. For these reasons I’m in favor of a moratorium on immigration for the next 20 years. All those not yet citizens should be encouraged to return to their home countries. No more green cards, work visas or even student visas should be issued.

    • Replies: @Truth
  195. @Anonymous

    That’s the argument of mindless Asian SJWs who’ve been fed the libtard kool-aid. Just look at the numbers you yourself provided. Whites who were turned down still vastly outperformed blacks and hispanics who were given admission, to the tune of 340 points and 130 points respectively. Libtards who came up with AA want everyone to turn against whites, and mindless Asian SJWs like you are parroting them without thinking things through.

    So much for “smart Asians”.

    • Replies: @Truth
  196. Truth says:

    OTOH, many white-black mix marriages are white female with black male, in many instances these women marry black men because they are liberal nuts who want to raise black children. Jewish women for instance marry black men at a high rate. Many of these women then raise their children as black or biracial children and encourage their children to identify themselves as black.

    Yeah, and the rest of them wanted the SCHLONG!

  197. Truth says:

    …But they still needed a lower score for admittance than Asians…

  198. MarkinLA says:

    Maybe the Asians were simply dull grinders who didn’t impress during the in-person interviews typical of highly selective universities.

    A guy I knew at UCLA told me of his interview at Cal Tech where his insufficient enthusiasm for the school was the only reason he was rejected.

    His story is pretty funny:

    He got straight As at UCLA for 4 quarters as a physics major, then discovered marijuana. He proceeded to fail every quarter from then on. Knowing his potential, the school did everything they could to keep him enrolled. He just couldn’t stop getting high long enough to do anything. Finally, UCLA kicked him out just prior to the last quarter of what would have been his last year. Since he was in a crappy part of the dorm and there wasn’t much interest in that dorm floor, the dorm let him stay until the end of the year. He never told his parents and they assumed he was graduating and were in the process of planning a big celebration when he had to tell them he fluked out.

    The last time I saw him he was slinging packages at an airfreight terminal at LAX and had lost a lot of weight. He wasn’t smoking as much dope. He was planning to go back to a JC and then get his degree. That job slinging packages did more for him than all that time at UCLA.

  199. Anonymous [AKA "StrawApple"] says:

    I went to one of those Ivy League Schools. Have been an alumni interviewer for close to 20 years. Friendly with people in head office.

    Buried away in all of this are a couple of missing facts that might be helpful.

    1.) Ivy League Universities are PRIVATE businesses.
    Stated mission “accept a class that represents the community in which we live”
    Unstated mission – “keep the money rolling in”

    2.) If I was a private business, and I need to keep the money rolling in then perhaps my customers are those people who give me more money during their life time after college? Who is that?
    – they have done the analysis – the most generous lifetime alumni are ……………. traditionally athletes who have gone to work in business – and some lawyers……NOT doctors, engineers, professors. There is also some ethnographic data on who supports their communities (civic mindedness) – lets just say that is a real can of worms

    3.) The “average” admission SAT is not “an average”.
    – of any group of people on the web the readers at this site should know averages are made of smaller collections of other averages. There are MULTIPLE groups with MULTIPLE averages – the athletes, the development cases, the “diamonds in the rough” etc

    4.) the Ivy Academic Index
    – if you don’t know what it is or how it works look here
    – basically all the athletes have to average 1 standard deviation below the average for the rest of the school (that’s a lot – the 25% of athletes SAT average is only the same as the bottom 16% of what is left)

    5.) Put it all together
    – take the overall admission SAT – call it 1300 out of 1400
    – 25% of class are athletes (of various racial backgrounds – and the racial mix would not surprise you) – that average SAT is 1 standard deviation lower than what is left – estimated at 1200
    – to average 1300 remainder of class averages 1330

    The difference between the rest of the class and athletes – IS THE SAME NUMBER as between Asian Americans and others.

    This does not take into account making a geographically diverse class, “development” cases (the real money) etc

    Bottom line – if you are not a sport stud, or from South Dakota you will need a really high score to bring up the average – NO MATTER what ethnicity you are.

    Who has the toughest path to admission at Ivy Leagues?
    Asian Americans who live on the coasts and are non athletes. White girls in Mass, CT and NYC who are non athletes

    Cal-Tech, MIT, the UC system have always said they value straight academics.

    – I have seen this play out personally. Oldest daughter just going off to an Ivy – has no sports and from New England – needed outrageous scores. Son who starts junior year in high school – is 6 foot 7 inches, 298 lbs – recruited to multiple D1 colleges for football with much lower GPA etc

  200. We need all the help we can get.

    A strong team is a force multiplier. Affirmative actions types are a drain, at best on your efforts.

  201. Thomm says:

    Half of the most highly valued tech companies in the US were founded by immigrants.

  202. @Carlton Meyer

    I have always said the the world is shorthanded. No matter if you are green, like Kermit, or have supernumerary digits, no one cares if you can make a positive contribution to the work at hand. My class, 69 at Hopkins had a lot of odd ducks, but you could get a lot then and now with them.

    When you have affirmative action, some of them are just dead weight while others are a serious cost with their stupidity and obstruction. You don’t want to be within a nautical light year of the ones that are ‘suit happy’ something I saw at J. P. Morgan, a customer.

    Affirmative action is a self-licking ice cream cone. You give some on preference in a environment for which they are neither prepared for, or motivated to succeed. Then they can blame racism, and you have a lifelong recruit for ‘social justice’.

    What is called racism is just a accurate assessment of the situation and the risks involved. We now have our own Nitrian monks who want to skin us alive like they did Hypatia.

  203. Anonymous [AKA "Rught"] says:
    @DB Cooper

    The forward communities of India are about 15% of the population. Forward communities are those Indian groups with an average IQ of 100 or higher. These are the groups the emigrate.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  204. Thomm says:

    I don’t think it is that low, since Asia was the center of the world economy until 1820 anyway, and is becoming the center again :

    This precludes the possibility that India has a lower 85% that can never attain parity. It *was* at parity for many centuries before 1820.

    WNs are not smart enough to understand maps and charts like this one, but others may find this useful.

  205. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    A Korean doesn’t have much in common with a Malay, nor a Pathan with a Tamil.

    That they “all look alike” to use

    They don’t. A Pathan probably looks more like you (if you’re a typical white person) than he does like any of the others mentioned, who have about the same visual distance from each other.

    • Replies: @Logan
  206. Logan says:

    Quite right. Pretty much my point. Lumping East Asians in with South Asians makes zero sense.

    What I was trying to point out that even within the South Asian and East Asian groups there is immense diversity.

    Many Pathans, if appropriately dressed and groomed, could pass unnoticed in any white area of America.

    But Tamils, Malays and Koreans don’t look much like each other either, even if all three look very different from white people.

  207. Mefobills says:

    Chip ’em and ship ’em! Microchip where they CAN’T ‘dig it out’ to prevent them from ever ever ever returning! And ship ’em out! I’d pay a LOT to have this done!

    You would merely need to show up and work within the industrial and price system of the economy.
    The returning money from those “shipped out” would be stimulating production.

    In other words, since the production system is automated, then your labor component of shipping them out is very small.

    It would be easy to fund removal. It is a sad commentary that most people are so hypnotized the idea of paying for removal is beyond their ability.

    The good thing about paying for removal, is all of the soy boys and feeeels feminists would not be able to say a damn thing. Your counter retort would be, well they took the money willingly.

    (They had a choice, take the money or the lead to the head .)

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