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From the minute after the US Central Command (CENTCOM) and the UK Maritime Trade Organisation (UKMT) learned that the oil tanker MV Chem Pluto had been hit by an exploding drone in the Indian Ocean 1,600 kilometres east of the Red Sea and Yemen coast (lead image, left), they also knew why. Through a joint venture between a Japanese and a Singapore holding company operating through a Dutch management cutout, the vessel is owned by Idan Ofer, an Israeli shipping magnate (lead image, right).

The Chem Pluto strike is the second by a drone against one of Ofer’s vessels in the Indian Ocean. The first strike was on November 24, when the container carrier CMA CGM Symi was targeted in the northeastern sector of the Indian Ocean. The Symi is owned by Ofer’s Eastern Pacific Shipping in Singapore.

On December 18, drone strikes were reported by CENTCOM against the Swan Atlantic oil tanker and the bulker MV Clara. The first vessel is owned by a Norwegian company but management, with hidden equity, belongs to the Israeli Zodiac group, owned by Idan Ofer’s brother, Eyal Ofer. The second vessel, the Clara, is owned and managed by a German company, Johann MK Blumenthal; no Israeli trace has been found to date, but the Houthis have yet to make a mistake in spotting and hitting Israeli ships.

On November 19 they did more than that. On that day an Israeli-owned car carrier, Galaxy Leader, was captured by Houthi commandos in the Red Sea. Follow their operation as they filmed it; here is the vessel now receiving tourists at anchor off Al-Salif port, Yemen. Ownership by the Israeli Abraham Ungar was concealed behind by a Japanese ship management entity and a company registered under the Isle of Man-headquartered Ray Car Carriers, which in turn is owned by a Tel Aviv company called Ray Shipping.

Houthi political and military spokesmen have repeatedly made clear they are attacking Israeli shipping, as well as vessels of any nationality trading in and out of Israel’s ports. “Israeli ships are legitimate targets for us anywhere… and we will not hesitate to take action,” Major General Ali Al-Moshki, a Houthi military official, said on the group’s television station on November 20, following the capture of the Galaxy Leader.

“If Gaza does not receive the food and medicine it needs, all ships in the Red Sea bound for Israeli ports, regardless of their nationality, will become a target for our armed forces,” a Houthi press statement declared on December 9.

CENTCOM and Pentagon releases to the press have also claimed to have intercepted Houthi drone and missile attacks on US warships in the Red Sea attempting to protect the Israeli-owned or Israel-bound shipping.

Less successful in hitting Israel’s Red Sea port of Eilat, the Houthi campaign has been effective in cutting off the port by striking at vessels in the Red Sea, and then extending the range of strikes to the eastern Indian Ocean. Eilat accounts for 45% of car imports to Israel and 5% of all the goods imported to Israel by sea. The Houthi campaign has cut Eilat’s port revenue by 80% since October 7.

The impact has expanded to all shipping in the Red Sea, Gulf of Aden, and Indian Ocean if their management and ownership are based in the US and the European states allied with Israel in the Gaza war, and also with the US in the war against Russia in the Ukraine.

It is this coalition of states which US Secretary of Defense General Lloyd Austin attempted to rally for naval convoy and counter-threat operations on December 18, calling the plan OPERATION PROSPERITY GUARDIAN.

This operation is now coming apart in recriminations because commercial vessel owners in France, Spain, and Italy have accepted that if they negotiate Israel-boycott deals directly with the Houthis, they can continue to operate through the Red Sea. They resent the commercial competition from Russia and China which are operating oil tankers and dry-cargo carriers without hindrance or threat.

The obviousness of the targeting by the Houthis, and of Houthi deal-making by the Russians and Chinese, are being concealed, however, in the US and UK maritime industry media and the mainstream press. They are advocating maximum use of force by the Israel and US-led operation in the region to attack both Houthi and Iranian targets.

In the most recent strike, the Israeli oil tanker Chem Pluto was hit on Saturday, December 23, by a drone about 1,600 kilometres east of the Yemen coast; about 200 kilometres west of the Indian coast. Initial media reporting claimed the vessel was “affiliated” to Israel but emphasized that it was owned by a Japanese entity and managed by a Dutch one. The Indian media claimed the drone strike had come from the Iranian intelligence vessel MV Safiz reportedly 87 kilometres away from the Chem Pluto.

Late on Saturday evening, the Russian military blogger Boris Rozhin reported: “The Chem Pluto tanker hit by the drone belonged to Israeli oligarch Idan Ofer and was flying the flag of Liberia. The drone arrived 200 miles from the Indian port of Verawal. There was a fire on board, but the crew managed to put it out. This strike shows that attacks on Israeli vessels can be carried out not only in the Red Sea or the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, but also in the Indian Ocean. At the same time, the flags that the Houthis go after are ignored – ownership structure is the priority. If the owner is associated with Israel, the ship immediately becomes a potential target.” This Russian publication was datelined December 23 at 22:37 Moscow time.

TradeWinds, an Oslo-based maritime publication which used to be pro-Russian so long as it was receiving advertising and sponsorship money from Sovcomflot, the Russian state shipping company, picked up on the story a day later. According to TradeWinds, “the Chem Pluto is operated by Amsterdam-based Ace Quantum, according to data from Equasis. The company is a joint venture of Ace Tankers and Eastern Pacific Shipping, which is owned by Israeli billionaire Idan Ofer. The ship is listed as owned by Sansho Kaiun of Japan, with technical management by Fleet Management.” This disclosure was published on December 24 at 1804 Greenwich Mean Time (GMT).

Equasis, the data source for tracing the Chem Pluto to Ofer, is the creation of the European Commission and the French Maritime Administration, which set up the website and database in 2000 to “promote the exchange of unbiased information and transparency in maritime transport and thus allow persons involved in maritime transport to be better informed about the performance of ships and maritime organisations with which they are dealing.” With the exception of Brazil, Equasis is a US-allied operation.

The allies knew at once that the Chem Pluto had been targeted because it was Israeli-owned. However, the Pentagon, the Voice of America, and UK propaganda continue to pretend that the Houthi targeting is not tied to the Israel Defence Forces’ operations in Gaza, and carefully restricted to Israeli and allied targets.

TradeWinds has reported the target strategy under a headline indicating that Iran may expand the war to threaten shipping moving through the Gibraltar Strait towards Israel’s Mediterranean ports, Ashdod and Haifa. The Iranian statement on the Gibraltar Strait has been reported in the western press with the qualification that “Iran has no direct access to the Mediterranean itself and it was not clear how the Guards could attempt to close it off” and that “the only groups backed by Iran on the Mediterranean are Lebanon’s Hezbollah and allied militia in Syria, at the far end of the sea from Gibraltar.”

Source: https://www.tradewindsnews.com/

The western news agencies and the Anglo-American maritime media appear not to be aware of the capabilities of Algeria, whose parliament has authorized the government to take unspecified military measures against Israel. Algeria’s military is also collaborating closely and recently with the Russian Navy.

The possibility of a drone attack on an Israeli vessel near the Gibraltar Strait has not yet dawned publicly, not at least in the mainstream and maritime industry media. More than 100,000 vessels transit through the Gibraltar Strait each year. If Israeli-owned and international shipping are now blocked from reaching either Eilat or Haifa and Ashdod from the east through the Red Sea and the Suez Canal, the Gibraltar Strait in the west is the gateway remaining. This is acknowledged by Israeli experts. “According to Dr. Elyakim BenHakoun from the Industrial Engineering and Management Faculty at the Technion Institute of Technology, about 99% of goods (in terms of cargo volume) reach Israel by sea, and around 40% of the cargo arriving in Israel passes through the Suez Canal…the consequence of stopping ship traffic in the Red Sea is to circumnavigate Africa, leading to an extension of shipping times by approximately two weeks to a month, depending on the destination region, vessel speed, and ship category. This roughly translates to an additional cost of $400,0000-$1 million per ship.”

From Gibraltar (left) to Haifa and Ashdod (right), Israel’s leading cargo ports, is a distance of almost 2,300 nautical miles (4,300 kilometres), and at 10 knots vessel speed takes 9.5 days. Right, satellite image of Ashdod. A US Centre for Naval Analyses study of 2011 estimated severe economic damage to Israel from an oil cutoff at the Straits of Hormuz and Bab el-Mandeb. It added that “we are not aware of estimates of the flow of oil through the Strait of Gibraltar. However, a disruption to the Strait of Gibraltar is likely to have similar economic effects on the United States as a disruption to either the Suez Canal or the Bab el-Mandeb.”

(Republished from Dances with Bears by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:

    Very nice. Blockade is an act of war (just like any US “sanctions,” sabotage, or other measures subject to UN Charter Article 41.) But Houthi and Algerian intervention is justified by Pillar III of Responsibility to Protect as erga omnes responsibility to victims from the gravest crimes, and to the UN member nations for preserving rule of law. As a countermeasure to internationally wrongful acts in breach of jus cogens, blockade of Israel is provably proportional and necessary to stop genocide by the Jewish State.

    The winners will try the crimes, so it’s reassuring to know that the US and its Izzie satellite are going to lose this war. Let us hope David Marlowe and Bryan Fenton get beheaded in Iran, since CIA DO and SOCOM are the US organizations with direct responsibility for the gravest US crimes.

    • Agree: John Trout, Anonymiss
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  2. Notsofast says:

    thank you for this very informative article, this seems to confirm my suspicion that the iranians were implying that algeria would become a proxy in attacking the pinch point of gibraltar. if they do, don’t be surprised if they also declare war on israel as yemen has. this appears to be a gradated response, designed to slowly inflict as much pain as possible, using proxies in order to avoid direct confrontation between iran and israel as long as possible. the farther the israelis go the greater the response from the axis of resistance. soleimani in his unappreciated genius realize the true motivations of the occupation, plain and simply money. yes, it’s all about the benjamins. israelis will not put up with living in a warzone and fighting an enemy that has similar weapons to what they have, they fear a fair fight, while those opposing them would gladly give their lives. from what i’ve read almost half a million israelis have already left, get ready for exodus 2.0.

    all of this aligns with my suspicion that we are watching the grand plan of gen. soleimani play out before us. bds with cruise missiles, isolating israel and destroying their economy in the process. if they continue their murderous genocide of the palestinians, they will be destroyed economically, their siege of gaza will be met with an economic siege. the ultimate goal of his plan is not just freeing palestine but driving the u.s. out of the middle east completely.

    this is all part of ww3, which is largely an economic war, started by the zioneocons when they launched their covid bioweapon on an unsuspecting world, this is what the west is unable to grasp, because to a hammerheaded idiot everything is a nail. the west is being crushed in this war, both militarily and economically and both israeli and it’s zato golems are being into a trap to be bled to death. the only remaining question is whether that death will be literal or figurative.

  3. Wokechoke says:

    Video Link

    The flagging of these trampy vessels can be a trip. Not least for tax purposes but also national security measures.

    Liberian flagged…

    “Captain Bwana, the Kreigsmarine are here!”

    “Quick hide the Ark!”

  4. Wokechoke says:
    @Notsofast

    This looks like the larger counter attack regarding Ukraine v Russia.

    “Proxy War? We got proxies too!”

    The last piece will be a push somewhere near Taiwan.

    • Agree: PetrOldSack, one nobody
    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Kratoklastes
    , @Anon
  5. any economic damage Izrahell suffers as a result of the Red Sea blockade, or any other blockade, will be made up for by Uncle Schmuel. Oil? With Syria’s eastern oil province still occupied by Jew-S imperial stormtroopers, Izzies get all the free oil they want from there. OTOH,

    Izzies like to live high, so any temporary crimps will lead to more reverse-aliyahs.

  6. Whoever needs vacations in the West when you have a giant Chinatown across your shared 5000km border and can fight UN-style sustainable wars.

    • LOL: Tom Welsh
  7. @Haxo Angmark

    What does Israel do with oil ?
    It has a refinery in Haifa which can be blown up

  8. Israeli attack aircraft can bomb Yemen, but they don’t.

    The Israeli Mossad can secretly attack ships in the Indian Ocean with small drones, causing no real damage, so are probably the culprits.

    • Thanks: Verymuchalive
  9. @Notsofast

    One wonders how many bribe-bearing emissaries from the Collective Waste are or will make their way to Algiers to convince the Algerians to not disrupt Israeli or Israel-bound vessels traveling eastwards from Gibraltar. Although, the nearest coast to the Rock is on pro-western Morocco; should the Algerians possess some medium-range missiles; life could become hell for the Zionist $tate…not that they don’t deserve all the hell that the Axis of Resistance can whomp up.

    The Greek-speaking portion of Cyprus, along with Malta are likely also being wooed, at the same time as American, British and French submarines are poking around below the surface to make sure that they have that medium to themselves.

    Then there’s the recent accord between the leaders of eastern Libya and Russia which may possibly toss yet another hat into the ring. After the destruction of their state on behalf of Talmudist French Bank$ters and various other interests who feared the possible potential of a non-usurious currency based on gold and oil being granted to all of Africa; it could be that patriotic Libyans have certain bones to pick.

    A gradual tightening of the vise against the bloodthirsty Talmudists is probably the wisest course of action. A sudden ascension of pressure on the Rottenchild Crime Clan’s #1 pet project would tend towards a possible nuclear exchange. Sudden, crushing moves could send those Tel Aviv fanatics into screaming hysteria.

  10. Every day the Gaza Genocide Pandora’s box displays more consequences; this shit-storm has no off ramps available, World War III is coming!

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  11. Well done Yemen!!! Choke the child murdering criminal enterprise “israel”. The rest of the world should join the Yemenis and Algerians at sea and Hamas and Hizbollah by land – declare total war on apartheid israel until its dead and buried for good!!!

    We need a global Intifada to free ourselves from the cancerous entity that has poisoned world peace and stability – apartheid israel. Whatever and whoever razes down the zionist abomination would do humanity a very great service!

  12. Mactoul says:

    By attacking a ship carrying a cargo to India, the Iranians have committed an act of war against India. There goes the Global South and BRICS!

  13. What a name… Chem Pluto … Chemical Pluto..?!
    So Jews are now worshipping chtonic gods…? Unfaithful to Jahwe again!

    • Thanks: JR Foley
    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
  14. GMC says:

    Japan will never go against Israel , nor any other country that knows about the Fukushima sabotage. Certainly Germany, will never go against the US again after they lost the Nordie I an II pipelines. I would imagine that South Korea learned their lesson from Japan. Once the Octopus has you in their tentacles – you are screwed.

    I ran into a young man from So. Korea in Istanbul a month ago and he was on his very first tour of the planet and Turkey was his first destination. We had coffee together and we talked about things. When I told him I was an American , living in Russia { long story} he was amazed that Russia wasn’t Communist anymore. He was told that Russia was still very much a communist country. Maybe he got drilled when he had to spend 2 years in the ROK military. I hope he learns a lot more in his travels.

    • Replies: @Anon
  15. IronForge says:

    If true, nice find, Author!

    I suspected and requested on BlogSites for another check – since the only person suffering are the Exporter/Importer and mostly Indian Crew. Looked like a possible Insurance False Flag.

    Doesn’t change the fact that the Israeli Owner-Operator will receive Insurance Payments – just like in 9/11. This time, Hired Workers were exposed to the Risk.

    Still an unacceptable Act – it’s bad enough to warrant the IND Military to look for Targets to Smite.

    Most News and Non-Paywall Industry Sites wouldn’t expose the alleged “Israel-linked” aspect of the MV Chem Pluto.

    Shameful that they didn’t. Disappointed in the Western MSM and Industry Sources. RT was being lazy; but they tend to be when Cut-Pasting from other Sources. I’m surprised no Indian-EnglishNews Source would look it up.

    However I find the Author’s following questionable:

    The second vessel, the Clara, is owned and managed by a German company, Johann MK Blumenthal; no Israeli trace has been found to date, but the Houthis have yet to make a mistake in spotting and hitting Israeli ships.

    How about the NOR Tanker MV Strinda, Carrying Palm Oil from “MUSLIM” Malaysia(MYS) to Catholic ITAly?

    The Indian Flagged MV Saibaba?

    The French Frigate who shot down Drones intended for them – wasn’t “Israel-linked”. Enlighten us – what exactly did the French Military do in this Gaza Conflict?

    We can consider all Murican Military and Affiliated Merchant Shipping to be “Israeli Linked”.

    Too soon, Author, to say that the Houthi targeting were accurate. You may have disproved yourself with the MV Clara; and we have other Vessels attacked.

    Unfortunately, the Houthi don’t disclose the Why+How of their Targeting, so we’re left with “7 Degrees of Kevin Bacon-ing” Israeli/Jewish Actors for every Vessel attacked.

    Just because there are Israeli/Diaspora involved in a MV Transport Transaction – attacking Foreign Flagged Vessels without warnings and opportunities to disembark constitute Acts of War against the Flag Assigning State.

    Guess we’ll have to rely on Industry-News Sources to Double Down on the Fact Checking.

  16. Thank you for such a informative article.
    The war waged against, Israel is an economic and reputational war.
    Israel is loosing on both fronts. The Arabs have the Energy and the Israelis are committing the 21 century’s second genocide, Ukraine being the first, while loosing a mountain of Shekels.
    Israel can’t fix this with f-16s and US ordinance.

  17. Miro23 says:

    Eilat port in Southern Israel has been more or less shut down by the Houthis. It doesn’t seem such a big deal since apparently it mostly deals with imported cars and exported potash.

    Eilat port chief says traffic down 85% since Houthis put squeeze on strait

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/eilat-port-chief-says-traffic-down-85-since-houthis-put-squeeze-on-strait/

    However Haifa port in Northern Israel is a different question. A new Lebanese war with Hezbollah would completely shut it down. No need for the Algerians to do anything in the Gibraltar Strait.

    Essakov, whose shipping company mainly deals with the supply of raw materials including grain and cement, emphasized that is vital for Israeli ports to remain open as the country is highly dependent on imports, and failure to do so would spark a supply crisis in food, raw materials, diapers, baby food, and other basic products.
    “Even though let’s say milk, and eggs, and poultry, and bread are manufactured in Israel, they rely on the import of raw materials, including grain,” said Essakov. “In Israel, more than 99% of all materials are imported by the sea and that’s why it’s imperative that the country keeps the ports open and operating at any cost.”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-rockets-pound-israel-some-ships-bound-for-ashdod-divert-to-haifa-port-in-north/

    So what is Netanyahu’s calculation?

    He wants to draw the US and Europe into a cataclysmic final battle in the Middle East with Israel’s enemies liquidated and leaving “their greatest ally” triumphant over the ruins. In other words, he’s doubling down again with US blood a resources looking for the quick and final creation of Greater Israel?

    • Agree: Corrupt
    • Thanks: Agent76
    • Replies: @HammerJack
  18. @Notsofast

    Even though Algeria is independent-minded, I seriously doubt that any state including Iran and Algeria, will get DIRECTLY involved in conflict with Israel. There is no need to hit Israeli ships as far as Gibraltar, they can be his somewhere in the east or mid Mediterranean. from Syria Lebanon and even Iraq. Most likely this will come from Iraq as Israel is less likely to retaliate in Iraq. Syria and Lebanon’s civilians are easy targets for Israel and these bloodthirsty terrorist parasites will take their anger on innocent people, and I doubt Iran will want to subject these people to more destruction and death. Israel hitting Iraq repeatedly would then involve Iraq in a war with Israel. The US will probably hit some Iraqi militias in retaliation, as they always do. An Israeli gas drilling platform was reportedly hit from Iraq although I have read that Jordan intercepted the drone or missile on behalf of Israel, if true.

  19. @emerging majority

    The sad thing about this is the US and EU citizens whom are prevented from joining other nations in friendship, peace and prosperity, not by the Global South but by their own whores of the Ziocons.
    It’s time for some freedom work.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  20. Anonymous[941] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    But Houthi and Algerian intervention is justified by Pillar III of Responsibility to Protect as erga omnes responsibility to victims from the gravest crimes, and to the UN member nations for preserving rule of law. As a countermeasure to internationally wrongful acts in breach of jus cogens, blockade of Israel is provably proportional and necessary to stop genocide by the Jewish State.

    Nifty. And who is going to protect me?

  21. @Haxo Angmark

    Jew SS (Sturmtruppen) sounnds nice when referring to US trooops.

  22. • Replies: @JR Foley
    , @Notsofast
  23. eah says:

    >… but the Houthis have yet to make a mistake in spotting and hitting Israeli ships.

    I’m not sure that’s true — nor if the intent is also to generally target ships owned by Israelis — I cited this story in a previous comment:

    MSC to Divert Shipping Away From Suez Canal After Red Sea Attacks

    Read the article: it says the Houthis claimed ‘they were targeting only ships heading to Israeli ports’, but they reportedly attacked two vessels owned by MSC, Mediterranean Shipping Company, which is Italian, and neither vessel was heading to an Israeli port (‘listed Jeddah in Saudi Arabia as their destination’).

    So it’s not clear what the Yemeni goatherders are doing with these pinprick nuisance attacks.

    • Replies: @one nobody
  24. I don’t know why Hezbollah or the Syrians haven’t bombed the runways at Ben Gurion airport. If this happened, the Israelis would fly into a blind panic worrying how they’ll be able to skedaddle when the rockets land. This may even lead to an overthrow of the shitty government and the new lot sue for peace. One lives in hope.

    • Replies: @Unbornawakened
    , @Fj
  25. Anynomous says:

    Its embaressing how american, british and israeli, the axis of evil, is loosing on every level. They do not even have mythical wonder weapons, others can do just the same or change their tactics.

    Finally everybody knows what animals american, british and the state of Israel are. And they openly and proudly keep terrorizing, robbing and genociding around the world, like always before until now.

    American, british and the Rothchilds elite jewish network no longer control writing the history as they please. This is what scares also american and british. Their empires are getting destroyed, but they are still dangerous like rabid dogs until they are finally destroyed.

    • Replies: @Malla
  26. padre says:
    @Mactoul

    No shit, if you attack Izraely tanker sailing to India, it’s attack on India? Great thinking!

    • LOL: one nobody
    • Replies: @eah
  27. @IronForge

    You mean fact chocking Here, check on these facts if you please.
    1. Yemeni waring factions, with mediation by KSA and Iran, have agreed to end hostilities and unite against the ,ionist Entity.
    2. Putin has announced that as the US and the EU have armed Ukraine, he is considering arming Hamas. Have you ever wondered why Hamas never popped out of a tunnel fired a manpad at an F-16 and went back into the tunnel? That might be in the cards for Shitrahell. Take out their economy, then their air force.
    3. After Yemen, may come Sudan, another country on Shitrahell’s payback card.

    Half a million Shitrahellis left for good, now we need another 1.5-1.7 million more to leave so we can find new homes for the Palestinians to return to.
    Shitrahell is buggered, can’t say I mind.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  28. JR Foley says:
    @Priss Factor

    Hunter stands erect –waiting in anticipation !!

  29. @eah

    The Houthis have shuttered the port of Eilat. Algeria has the potential to shut down Hifa and Asdod ports on the Med. I guess the Arabs have traded in their goats for anti-ship fireworks to target Eurotrash rust buckets.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  30. @Unbornawakened

    Still, Algeria is the best position to strike Israeli shipping and is farther than Iraq to strike.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  31. eah says:
    @padre

    Actually, Unz himself called sabotage of Nord Stream, an undersea pipeline wholly owned by Gazprom but delivering natural gas to Europe, with its European terminus in Germany, ‘an obvious act of war against Germany’ — I don’t really see much difference:

    NATO’s Losing Proxy War in Ukraine

    One year ago tomorrow a series of massive underwater explosions destroyed most of the $30 billion Russian-German Nord Stream Pipelines, probably Europe’s most important civilian energy infrastructure. All observers soon agreed that the blasts had been deliberate, likely constituting the greatest case of industrial terrorism in world history and an obvious act of war against Germany, NATO’s leading European member.

    • Replies: @John Trout
  32. After behind the scenes instigation of two world wars, the Ziopigs are on course to start the mother of all wars to exterminate goys, Whites included. So they think. Holocaust 2 is on its way, hopefully providing the final karma solution for the perpetual warmongering beasts.

  33. Rich23 says:

    “I’m not sure that’s true”

    I think that’s evidence of ‘feminine present participle’, right? You know, when it comes sentence structure, syntax and grammar.

  34. eah says:
    @one nobody

    And you think that could be done at zero cost? — Algeria is very heavily dependent on oil exports — what if in retaliation Israel and/or the US decided to damage or destroy oil export terminals in Algeria?

    As I pointed out a number of times, cutting oil output would have been a straightforward way for their oil producing (ostensible) allies to indirectly help the Palestinians — the price would jump, causing serious economic stress for the consuming nations supporting Israel, as well as instigating further political unrest there — Russia would very likely go along — oil producers would suffer proportionally much less harm due to the price rise — but nothing happened at the last meeting.

    Algeria isn’t going to do anything — Arabs are mostly stupid cowards.

    Idiot.

    • Troll: Notsofast, Anonymousrgc
    • Replies: @one nobody
  35. @Unbornawakened

    “The US will probably hit some Iraqi militias in retaliation, as they always do.”

    Good call, Genocide Biden ordered such yesterday.

  36. @IronForge

    Are you on Fat Leonard’s Navy Officer gay sex party list? Oh nooooo

    • LOL: Notsofast
  37. DanFromCT says:
    @IronForge

    Figuring out which ships are heading for discharge in Israel isn’t necessary, or which others, wherever they’re going, are Israeli owned and operated. Any ship loading Israeli exports can be targeted while passing through Gilbralter westbound. Sleaze operators like the Ofers can hire outside ships in any combination of flag, crew, management, and ownership, or through European affiliates. Identification of these ships with fake cargo documents bound for Israel would be difficult, but I’d guess possible to get confirmed here and there. Someone in this field could probably clarify this for us.

  38. X101 says:
    @Notsofast

    One thing not to forget in all this, is that Morocco signed the Abraham accords in exchange for recognition of its claims to the Western Sahara.

    https://www.arabnews.com/node/2342251

    The rebel Polisario group is supported by none other than Algeria in its struggle for independence.

    That means Algeria does not need to get directly involved in the Gibraltar blockade, but that Polisario, like the Houthis, could target ships sailing towards the strait along the coast of western africa.

    The Sahwari are living in refugee camps across the border in Algeria, so identify strongly with the Palestinians, not to mention that 20% of israelis originate from Morocco. Even their flag looks eerily like that of Palestine.

    Although the conflict between Morocco and Polisario had ended with the 1991 ceasefire, guerilla operations restarted in 2020 following the signing of the Abraham accords by Morocco.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polisario_Front

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  39. Malla says:
    @Mactoul

    Sorry mate, but Indians either tend to be pro-Iran or at least distrust the USA as much as they distrust Iran. 50%-50% divide. In general, Indians see Iran very positively more positively than how Iranians sees India. So India is at once both pro-Iran and pro-Israel. Just like how India is at once both pro-Russia and pro-West. But West vs Russia, most Indians are by default pro-Russia.
    And even in the West, the USA is actually one of the least trusted country by average Indians. The average Indian will trust European nations like France, Germany etc… or even Australia (part of QUAD) FAR more than the USA. This is a left over from the Cold War Socialist era when the USA was seen as an enemy of India.

    For example check out this video and comments.

    Video Link
    Iran did not Attack Ship near India | Should India trust Iran or USA? (In Hindi)

    Let’s check out the comments by Indians, shall we

    @tanuriyapaul5203 wrote:
    “As an Indian 🇮🇳🇮🇳 I will prefer Iran over America because 1:-iran is in our neighborhood and friendship with Iran is good for security of our country. 2:-iran has a cultural relations with India and 3:-i will quote Henry Kissinger “to be America’s enemy is dangerous but to be America’s friend is fatal”America can not be trusted”
    @santkabir7932 wrote in RESPONSE
    “Nice joke…iran support pak on kashmir issue….now tell me ur opinion….usa is much better than iran”
    @thewarrior561 wrote in RESPONSE
    “The USA also supports Pak in order to get benefits for its country. Russia had supported India not USA”

    @Jai_BharatMata wrote and received 415 likes
    “In the Biden vision of the world, allies have disappointed America and competitors have cheated it. India is fortunate in being neither.
    :S. Jaishankar🇮🇳”

    @Bhakt-TheDevotee wrote
    “Rule no 1. Never trust USA.
    Rule no 2: Never trust Iran
    Rule no 3. Do not forget rule no 1 & 2”

    @The_SkullKnight wrote
    “I would trust our EAM (and Intel Agencies) that know BOTH USA and IRAN can’t be trusted… BUT choosing one over other may align with our national interest.
    But one this is for sure this whole thing proves is our Navi HAVE to be given more money, resources and authority to protect our neighbourhood and beyond.”

    @kautushkumarsingh554 wrote
    “For me, it’s not about trusting either state. Iran has technology and motive to do such thing, while USA does also has the motive to blame Iran in such an event. Either way, trusting any country would be worse and it’ll better to wait for results from our navy investigation”

    Indians are not taking any sides in between Iran and the USA.

    • Thanks: Agent76, Miro23
  40. whataliar says:

    when the war in ukraine started. putin warned that any ‘decision making center’ would be fair game if it was found to be helping ukraine against russia. i thought it was an interesting choice of words. and israel came to mind.

    all of the asymmetric warfare that has been directed against israel seems to be far different in strategy than anything i remember seeing over the years.

  41. Whereas the bombastic Turks, Saudis, Egyptians and especially Pakistanis (the nefarious nuclear weapons technology merchants) have failed, the lowly Houthis are having a negative impact on Israeli operations. A lesson for regional hegemonic powers.

  42. Notsofast says:
    @emerging majority

    remember that morrocco has been bought off by zato, who “gave” (just like trump “gave” the golan heights to israel, lol) them part of algeria, there is tension there already, as some lost tourists on jetskis found out a few weeks ago.

    the algerians hate the israelis and will never accept their illegal occupation of palestine. they also hate the french, for obvious reasons and let’s face facts doesn’t everyone hate the french?

    the algerians have old scores to settle and they are not alone. this may well be the beginning of the chickens coming home to roost. as they say you must be careful how you treat people on your way up, because you will meet them all again on your way down.

  43. Anonymous[298] • Disclaimer says:

    Anonymous no. 21, one must presume you’re an Izzie, given the whining nasal tone of your question. But there are no dumb questions, only whiny manipulative zionazi questions, so here ya go!

    Your Izzie civil-military command structure is hostis humani generis until it stops the crimes against humanity of inter alia genocide, extermination, and forcible population transfer, and accepts responsibility for compensation, restitution, or satisfaction (to include prosecution or extradition.)

    Sadly for you, as a member of the IDF you are part of the civil-military command structure, so you share culpability for the gravest crimes. In the postwar (post WW III) tribunal or universal jurisdiction trial, the superior orders defense will not fly, so you are personally responsible for blinding, crippling, murdering, or torturing the inmates of your concentration camps. Maybe you’re a good German, so to speak, and they’ll let you off with nine months of starvation and a vise pulping your nuts, like the last time nazis got out of hand. Maybe you’ll get lucky and get your rights of trial and ten years in Dolphin Prison.

    So have a nagila, asshole, you’re a Jew State dead-ender.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  44. @PhiltheFluter

    What needs to happen is for Hezbollah and Syria to be able to down Israeli planes. It seems neither Russia nor Iran are willing to give them the capability. The moment they hit Ben Gurion Israeli planes will fly over Beirut and Damarcus to terrorize innocent civilians. You are dealing with a bunch of terrorists.

    I understand why Russia does not want to help Syria defend itself, but I don’t know why Iran is not providing Hezbollah at least with copies of stinger missiles which they claim to be manufacturing?

  45. @one nobody

    I am willing to bet Algeria will do no such thing. I will be happy to be proven wrong. The next few days will clear things up.

  46. Malla says:
    @Anynomous

    Finally everybody knows what animals american, british and the state of Israel are. And they openly and proudly keep terrorizing, robbing and genociding around the world, like always before until now.

    I would blame the American and British Governments but not the average White American or native Briton. They have nothing to do with this and gain nothing by this. Indeed their ZOG governments use the average White American and native Briton as cannon fodder for their evil Satanic missions around the World. The Satanic American Government hates the average White American million times more than they hate the average Chinese or Arab. The British Government hates the average Native Briton million times more than the average Chinese or Arab.
    As far as robbing, Britain and America robbing the World is pure prime grade B.S. Britain hardly did it during the Empire. And America does not need to do this very much. America is rich in resources, more then most countries on planet Earth. Dumb Marxists applied their false charges against European/ Japanese Empires (the whole looting resources B.S.) and applied it on the USA after WW2, the USA which is one of the most resource gifted countries on planet Earth.

    • Agree: Poupon Marx
    • Disagree: one nobody
  47. jsinton says:

    It’s another example of the US and the Western powers being drawn into a conflict which they cannot hope to win. Asymmetric warfare against a minor power in which the costs of winning preclude the great power from winning. Unless the US is willing to risk WW III by total warfare against the Yemenis, there is no chance of “winning”.

    What is new now is the willingness of the Iranians to join the fight. The attack on the tanker near India reeks of an Iranian operation, and the threats of closing the Mediterranean to Israel all point to a very serious turn of events. Things could explode with Iran.

    The war with Hezbollah continues to heat up, and that could quickly develop into a quagmire there too. Also Syria, West Bank, Jordan, who knows? Even the Saudis are forced to take sides here.

    One has to ask just what do the Zionists think they will accomplish here? Are they trying to start the big war here? This is not rational strategy, this is a “hail Mary” play. They need to pull back.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @antibeast
    , @Art
  48. Notsofast says:
    @Unbornawakened

    you’re missing the importance of the pinch points. these are the gateways in and out of both the mediterranean and the red sea, israel and their zato golem are bottled, while nonconfrontational shipping is allowed to pass freely, this is sheer genius.

    as far as algerian oil goes, they just dropped out of opec and are a complete free agent now and if they pull a yemen and declare war, for which they are fully and legally justified to defend the “helpless” palestinians, fend off this attempted genocide, don’t you think the iranians would help offset any lost revenues from the illegal destruction of their oil infrastructure. don’t you think the iranians and russians would help them rebuild their infrastructure and perhaps most importantly, do you think algeria would ever sell oil and gas to europe again? by the by, mbs has refused to take part in the armada of the doomed.

    in strange way general soleimani may have died for our sins and in the process, freed us all….and we don’t even have to believe in him. my god, like the beatles, he’s bigger than jesus.

    wake up, oh unawakened one, time to greet the new days dawn, a brand new worlds already begun.

    • Troll: Unbornawakened
    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Unbornawakened
  49. Haxo Angmark [AKA "chuck lowe"] says: • Website
    @Unbornawakened

    No diss here, but I have sailed by Gibralter dozens of times.

    If anyone fires a fuckin missile from that island, they will be dead as fried chicken in a Jewish New York second.

    Gimme a break.

    Jesus…

  50. Zumbuddi says:
    @Notsofast

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-opens-chinese-operated-port-haifa-boost-regional-trade-links-2021-09-02/

    JERUSALEM, Sept 2 [2021] (Reuters) – Israel has opened a new shipping port along its Mediterranean coast that will bring much needed competition to a sector plagued by delays and boost the country’s standing as a regional trade hub.

    The 5.5 billion shekel ($1.7 billion) Bay Port at Haifa, which will be operated by Shanghai International Port Group (SIPG), will enable larger classes of cargo ships, carrying 18,000 containers or more, to dock in Israel.
    {snip}
    The country is selling its state-owned ports and building new private docks in an effort bring down costs and cut above-average wait times for vessels to unload. About 99% of all goods move in and out of Israel over sea and an upgrade is needed to maintain economic growth.

    Warming ties with neighbouring Arab countries are also creating new trade opportunities for Israel and Haifa is well placed to become a regional hub.
    {snip}
    “I’m sure we can leverage this opportunity not just for local prosperity, but for realizing opportunities and making a real contribution to our neighbors in the Middle East,” Transport Minister Merav Michaeli said in a statement after the port was inaugurated in a low-key ceremony on Wednesday.

    Another new port on the Mediterranean coast is due to open in Ashdod by the end of the year, to be operated Swiss-based Terminal Investment Limited.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  51. Zumbuddi says:
    @jsinton

    One has to ask just what do the Zionists think they will accomplish here? Are they trying to start the big war here? This is not rational strategy, this is a “hail Mary” play. They need to pull back.

    Israelis just killed Iranian Gen. Mousavi in Syria. Gallant is preparing for a “response.” Lebanon is being barraged from the air.
    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-779498

  52. @one nobody

    2. Putin has announced that as the US and the EU have armed Ukraine, he is considering arming Hamas

    He already is. Through Iran. Iran has Carte Blanche with Russia and China. Anything they need, they will receive. It may be components, technology, materiel, etc, with little relatively traceability back to R. and C. Iran will never run short of matériel [ military equipment and supplies: ]

    Remember, Putin thinks several moves ahead, with alternative strategies for the “what ifs”.. Bismark, Napoleon, etc., have nothing on this guy.

    • Agree: Notsofast, kiwk, Kratoklastes
  53. Digital Samizdat [AKA "Seamus Padraig"] says:
    @Another Polish Perspective

    ‘Yahweh’ is just another name for Saturn anyway. That’s why their sabbath is on Saturday. And the planet Saturn’s permanent hexagon-storm is the real origin of the ‘Star of David’ (never even defined in the bible) and the mysterious black cube now seen everywhere.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn’s_hexagon

    • Agree: Bruce In Texas
  54. antibeast says:
    @jsinton

    One has to ask just what do the Zionists think they will accomplish here? Are they trying to start the big war here? This is not rational strategy, this is a “hail Mary” play. They need to pull back.

    The Zionists know very well that their biggest and baddest Golem — the U$A Empire of Chaos — is about to financially implode from the greatest money-printing machine in history — their Federal Reserve System. That’s probably why they decided to grab their last chance to ‘get rid’ of the Palestinians in haste before the U$A Empire of Chaos collapses into the dustbin of history.

    But as the saying goes: haste makes waste. What we are witnessing today — streamed live into online media — is some kind of morbid reenactment of the ‘Final Solution’ by the Zionists in Palestine.

    Sieg Heil!

    • Replies: @Miro23
  55. Agent76 says:

    Dec 24, 2023 Israel-Hamas War | Indian tanker reportedly attacked by drone fired by Houthi militants

    Tensions in the Red Sea are indeed simmering an Indian-flagged crude oil tanker has been attacked by Houthi militants according to the US military. The US Naval Forces Central Command has said that no injuries have been reported from the strike. However the Indian media reports indicate that the Indian-flagged vessel was not hit and that the Drone strike was a near miss.


    Video Link

  56. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous

    israel has declared that every one of its jewish citizens is a combatant. Let’s see israel “put its money where its mouth is”.
    EMP israel. Shut it down…

  57. @cousin lucky

    After Israel is thoroughly choked, the US will organize an airlift for the Jews. Five million will go to the US (Have fun Yankees) and the other 3 million will be settled in Europe.
    You all can then say bye-bye to autonomy and freedom and welcome in the new aristocracy of the Jews. Their Torah says each is entitled 1100+ slaves, so good luck.

    • Replies: @Kiers
  58. anonymous[365] • Disclaimer says:

    The lack of ethics and common decency is expected from the entire Western Media by now. They have always been ardent supporters of the Ukrainian Nazis and the murderous hard core fascist Israelis. No honorable and decent people should expect a single good word from them. The Western Media will support the likes of filthy child-killers Bidden, the Clintons, Zelensky, and Netanyahoo to the end, and they will turn on any of their own, like Seymour Hersh who broke the Nordstream bombing “mystery.” They are a damnable lot. Total sell-outs and quislings.

  59. Notsofast says:
    @Zumbuddi

    that will come in very handy for the new palestine, after the zionazis bug out. until then it can sit empty. by the bye, israeli port traffic at port of eilat is down 80%. you people (and you can pronounce that with a heavy spanish accent), just aren’t picking up on the bigger picture here.

    xi already told them to get their asses back to the 67 borders, did they listen to his sage advice? nope, they did the exact opposite and now their arm will have to be twisted or broken if necessary, or ripped clean off, if they insist on a monty python, black knight approach, “tis but a flesh wound”.

  60. Notsofast says:
    @X101

    agree, and i had made mention of that in my reply to emerging majority at comment 43 before seeing your post. there are definitely old scores to settle on many fronts, and the battle lines are being drawn. the only remaining question is will israel blink. my logical mind says, of course they will blink. my unflinching, all zioneocons must die mind, says no they are incapable of blinking as they are terminators programed only to kill and destroy.

    imho soleimani plan is pure genius, none of this is happenstance, and the response will be incrementally increased to force the israelis to bend to the will of the civilized nations of the world. in the end, if necessary, iran will step in to finish them off, but only after all other proxies and options have been exhausted, along with zato weapons stocks.

    • Replies: @X101
  61. @Notsofast

    You seem to be responding to someone else. And if you are responding to me, you haven’t read my post. You sound pretty stupid hitting a strawman, cretin.

    People will be laughing at you in a few days when Algeria does nothing.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  62. Who’s connecting the dots between Israel’s Open Air Zionist Prison Colony State being the ultimate training ground for coming massive Goyim Prison Colonies in US and around the world?

    Then using “Domestic Terrorism False Flags “ (see HAMAS) to completely destroy any indigenous populations.

    Divide and Conquer one goyim state at a time.

  63. kratic says:

    Brave Israeli soldiers crying in pain after the attack in contrast to Steven Spielburg’s Hollywood versior. Spielburg would add some Nazi helmet wearing Palestinians. Israeli’s are so clumsy when they walk or run unlike Hamas guys who seem more motivated.

    I guess that is what happen when soldiers hone their war skills by shooting young innocent children and unarmed women.



    Video Link

    • Agree: one nobody
    • Replies: @Lydia
  64. Notsofast says:
    @Priss Factor

    do you think maduro might still have copies?


    Video Link

  65. Algeria WILL NOT hit any ships going through Gibraltar.

    All the teenagers and adult retards posting here: MARK MY WORDS.

    • Replies: @one nobody
  66. @eah

    They may be stupid but from what we are watching, the cowards are the IOF and their asses are getting handed to them by Khams.

    • Replies: @eah
  67. @Malla

    Uh?! Is US paying Syria for the oil it extracts from the Syrian oil fields it has occupied? Of course it steals.

    • Replies: @Malla
  68. @Malla

    The following are number close to the real numbers, it doesn’t mattar because the picture is clear. Around 1780 India’s GDP was 27% of the World’s GDP and Britain was 3%. About a hundred years later the numbers reversed, Braitains GDP was around 27% and India was around 2%.
    We can talk about the IMF, the US Navy, UK Navy keep the sea lanes under their hegemony but that would be a labor.
    However, for you to say “As far as robbing, Britain and America robbing the World is pure prime grade B.S. Britain hardly did it during the Empire.” that’s truly ignorant.

    • Replies: @Malla
  69. @Unbornawakened

    Wait and see you insolent juvenile.

  70. Miro23 says:
    @antibeast

    The Zionists know very well that their biggest and baddest Golem — the U$A Empire of Chaos — is about to financially implode from the greatest money-printing machine in history — their Federal Reserve System. That’s probably why they decided to grab their last chance to ‘get rid’ of the Palestinians in haste before the U$A Empire of Chaos collapses into the dustbin of history.

    Agree with that. But Netanyahu also wants Greater Israel and has to enable it soon.

    In other words not only setting up the destruction of Gaza Palestinians (7th October enabled Hamas attack). Following his previous False Flag (9/11 Twin Towers) he successfully got the US to destroy Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and (partially) Syria. So now the focus is on getting the US to destroy Iran with multiple possible triggers – take on Hezbollah, escalate into a Yemen war or run False Flag 3. For example sinking a US aircraft carrier and blaming it on the Iranians.

    Everyone will understand that it was the Iranians who did it courtesy of the Jewish Mafia controlled Western media in a 9/11 type replay. Israel is clearly united and hot for a US/Iran war.

    Just finishing with the Palestinians is one thing but Netanyahu wants hegemony over the Middle East.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  71. Notsofast says:
    @Unbornawakened

    you’re still missing the point. let me bring you up to speed, yemen declared war on israel, placed legal sanctions on them and is enforcing those sanctions with iranian missiles and drones.

    the iranians have now threatened to do the same with gibraltar, implying algeria might do the same. who knows what the iranians have in both yemen and algeria, look at what they did in gaza, which was a prison camp. if the israelis don’t stop their murderous genocide of the palestinians, they will be stopped. will they backoff? i don’t know, that’s up to those morons. what i do know is if they just keep going the iranians will follow through on their religious convictions and defend al aqsa, as they say. it could get quite hot and then next step in the escalation, is gibraltar. the logical thing in doing that is a proxy, as the good old u.s.a. knows so well. can’t you see, their own dirty tricks are being turned against them. wokechoke had it right in comment 4.

    realize also that if this does happen, the zato armada is bottled and very easy targets in a day and age of hypersonic missiles, as the old bible quote goes: “fuck around and find out”.

    • Replies: @Corrupt
  72. @emerging majority

    I agree about a gradual tightening of the vise, with regards to both Israel and the U.S. I recall back when the USSR came apart, there was a real concern that disgruntled commies might push the button in revenge or despair. Serious diplomats worked carefully to reassure the Soviets that no such thing would be necessary. I expect that the rest of the world is willing to let us and our pals sink slowly, for the same reason.

    -Discard

  73. Kiers says:

    Has anyone taken a look at the MV Chem Pluto’s blast damage?

    It looks like the drone/(or, missile launched from drone) penetrated the hull, and ONCE INSIDE, blasted it OUTWARDS!


    (i’ve saved this image on internet archive, but there are plenty in the Indian press online available).

    I thought only anti tank munitions worked that way? are these “houthi drones” launching missiles with armor piercing heads with 2 stage explosive charges?

  74. eah says:
    @one nobody

    >the cowards are the IOF and their asses are getting handed to them by Khams

    I assume you mean IDF (no idea what ‘Khams’ means) — yeah, sure — you’ve been reading and believing too much dumb propaganda here — while it’s probably true that the IDF is suffering higher than expected casualties due to close fighting in an urban setting, the Palestinians are paying a much higher physical price, and the outcome is not in doubt — people who more or less cheer for Hamas while denying this obvious reality are disgusting.

    Whether Israel will suffer serious international repercussions, e.g. due to both the destruction of civilian infrastructure and the reported large number of deaths and injuries among Palestinian non-combatants, remains to be seen.

    As I said before: Yemeni goatherders ought to give more thought to the possible consequences of targeting shipping than Hamas apparently did before attacking Israel.

    Moron.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  75. Notsofast says:
    @Wokechoke

    agree and the russians just launched another state of the art military satellite apparently in preparation for the final push. it’s quite amusing to me, that these zioneocon pinheads are openly talking about, a ceasefire so they can not only rearm ukraine but move our mic manufacturing base there, as labor costs are just to high here, (not enough profit in it, apparently), lol. oh yeah and poland is going to take the lead in europe, lol.

    well i guess they’re just going to have to go all the way to kiev… or warsaw….or berlin….or paris….or d.c. might be time to finish the job their grandparents left half done.

  76. Look at a map and it becomes instantly clear that what Israel is doing to Gaza could easily be done by the Islamic world to Israel. And with far greater justification too.

  77. antibeast says:
    @Miro23

    Everyone will understand that it was the Iranians who did it courtesy of the Jewish Mafia controlled Western media in a 9/11 type replay. Israel is clearly united and hot for a US/Iran war.

    The Zionists have long wanted the US military to attack Iran lest the Iranians succeed in building up their military power. But it’s too little too late now as the destruction of Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq paved the way for Iran’s rise to become the region’s pre-eminent power with the military means to defend itself against the US military.

    The Zionists know that the end of the U$A Empire of Chaos is near. But provoking a long drawn-out war against Iran is highly risky for the Zionists because the US military does not have the military means to defend Israel against Iran. The Zionists wanted to force out the Palestinians by carrying out Nakba 2.0 which has been exposed as their real goal in invading Gaza. Anything beyond that risks the survival of the State of Israel.

    Just finishing with the Palestinians is one thing but Netanyahu wants hegemony over the Middle East.

    Even without the Palestinians in their midst, the Zionists would need to learn how to live in peace with their Arab neighbors. Otherwise, the incessant warfare in the region would only cause the mass emigration of Israelis from the Middle East. And that is déjà vu to the Zionists who dream of hegemony but wake up to the ultimate nightmare of an Exodus 2.0.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  78. The Houthi’s will continue to degrade Israeli ship movements, just ask Saudi Arabia who have ask for a truce/freeze, even thou hundred of thousands civilian, military casualties.

    • Replies: @jsinton
  79. @eah

    eahMoron:

    When Hamas pulled off their brief prison-break it is probable that they had already gamed-out the probable reaction of the Nuts n’ Yahoos regime…to the point of their genocidal air assaults on Gaza. Perhaps their reasoning was that even the lives of their wives, children and many civilian relatives and friends would be forfeit.

    Then why such a strategy? The Palestinian people are not limited to Gaza. They are also to be found in the West Bank, in Occupied Palestine itself and as a diaspora in a host of Western countries. Thus, the entirety of the Palestinian people cannot be genocided by the Evil Ones.

    Even as those suffering women, children and elders are being murdered en masse, the Hamas forces are taking out many hundreds of I$raelis KIA, along with thousands wounded and possibly tens of thousands, both amongst the IDF and the “home” population now suffering from PTSD. Life will never revert to “normal” for the Zionistas in stolen lands. Not only is their psychological wholeness now even more messed up than it has been for years…Hamas has given them so many hits that their psyches are shattered.

    Hamas is hardly alone. Hezbollah has freaked out some 60,000 residents of the Galilee and occupied parts of the Golan, along with several coastal settlements. They are too now refugees crowding into central I$rael. Even that core of the Zionist imperative are nowadays paranoid as hell, because they realize that Hezbollah has the rocketry and missilry to freak out the whole goddamned country.

    Then there’s Ansar Allah (Houthis) who have messed up Asian trade routes through the Bab el Mandeb straits. Eilat has become a ghost town at the same time as several thousands of Israelis have been obliged to desert settlements close to Hamas rocketry.

    To tighten the noose, the Algerians may decide to get into the act.

    “I$rael” is currently in shit, sad, sorry state…and they damned well deserve that…”Chosen People”, my skinny Norwegican ass.

    • Thanks: Anonymiss
    • Replies: @jsinton
  80. The Last Post TV show had the 1965 British Empire outpost in Yemen somewhere around Ay-Den — that’s how it’s pronounced not Ah-Den. The American Empire took over from the British Empire and I suppose it’s the same type bankers and wankers that run England and the USA.

    The HMS Hermes can’t be counted on for naval imperial duty to bomb the Hell out of the Yemen people because the HMS Hermes left the service of Perfidious Albion in 1984 and somehow in 1986 the Asian Indians got it, and they had it till they scrapped it in 2021.

    The Chinese went shopping for an aircraft carrier in 1998 at a yard sale and bought a curvy-topped one that the Ukrainians had laying around.

  81. X101 says:
    @Notsofast

    Yes, saw your other post, looks like we were thinking along the same lines and typing around the same time.

    As I mentioned, and to somehow bridge the gap with @unbornawakened , I doubt Algeria would intervene directly, but most likely through the Polisario. It offers them deniability. Along west africa are also other options to disturb shipping routes and destabilize the house of cards that’s our just in time supply chains, like the plandemic made crystal clear.

    On the one hand, one would hope Israel would see the writing on the wall, but given recent budget plans, they seem committed to the long run. On the other, Israel somehow backing off will not improve the situation for the Palestinians. In Gaza, the blocus will remain, with regular military incursions and destruction to prevent societal development. In the west bank, particularly Hebron, settlers will continue the expropriations and attacks, while in Israel itself, the discrimination laws will not be repelled.

    I just finished watching the interview of Craig Mobikher on EI and he paints a grim picture with regards to bringing anyone to justice. Karim Khan (ICC prosecutor in chief) is utterly corrupt, and dragging his feet to prosecute the open case he inherited when he took office, yet makes grand standing statements like below.

    https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-icc-prosecutor-karim-khan-kc-ramallah-situation-state-palestine-and-israel

    Reforming the UN is utopic, the security council members will not rescind veto powers, and unter the table pressures from the west will continue, when it’s not color revolutions or economic sanctions.

    The alternative, wwiii, will probably bring humankind on the brink of nuclear annihilation. To be fair, for the other species, it’s most likely the better option.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  82. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @emerging majority

    Algeria is a convenient distance from Israel for nuking, no?

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  83. Kiers says:

    “How the western media are protecting Israelis”?

    By providing the biggest nasty ruler imaginable: Trump (Biden is no different in mideast policy, but he’s not enough to help Yahu escalate to the FULL JOB). This war isn’t over by a long shot, much more cruel ugliness to come. And, yes, the US is gonna be doing all the heavy lifting. Netanyahu is already lonely despite acolyte Biden covering for him. Because Biden don’t have “the base” Netanyahu needs! The crazies! Netanyahu desperately NEEDS Trump, a strongman with “alleged” rabid base support. (Notice how the US media simply cannot let go of his name, on 24 hour heavy rotation?). Both Dems and Repubs are in on this game TOGETHER. What a country the US has proven to be! Completely pawned/owned/occupied.

  84. John1955 says:

    Pride goeth before Destruction, And an Haughty Spirit before a Fall. Better it is to be of an Humble Spirit with the Lowly, Than to divide the Spoil with the Proud.
    Proverbs 16:18-19

    Extending an ancient joke of WWII vintage:

    The Books Never Written

    1. Italian War Heroes
    2. Polish Who is Who (no offense meant to my dear Polacks 😁)
    3. FDR: The mistakes I’ve made

    4. The Jewish Millennium

  85. jsinton says:
    @Col from OZ

    Saudis were just about to begin peace negotiations with the Houthis with the help of the Iranians. The Iranians and the Saudis have made diplomatic ties again with the help of the Chinese. The Saudis have no interest in going back to confrontation with the Houthis over Israel, whom the Saudis of course despise.

  86. @Wokechoke

    The US government’s support is evaporating: Austin’s ‘coalition’ was exposed, in the course of one news cycle, as a masturbatory fantasy that had no “buy in”.

    Yemen’s showing that it has the sophistication required to ‘unmask’ the ownership/control of shipping: they have made it clear that they have a moral duty to impose costs on the perpetrators of Occupied Palestine – and they are doing so quite ‘surgically’, for which they are to be commended.

    The US hasn’t been this isolated in my lifetime (1965-current), and possibly going back a further half-century.

  87. Fj says:
    @Unbornawakened

    You f’ ear , what an occupier who steal land for survival do in me? Eventually its hand will be cut off.

  88. Fj says:
    @PhiltheFluter

    Idf is only good killing babies, even Hamas is kicking their asses. Let alone Hezbollah or Iraqi. Idf crowd is imoral fuggets can stand an army make a war even an Yankees garding around them.

  89. ISRAEL IS A RABID RACCOON AND IT MUST BE QUARANTINED IMMEDIATELY

    The American Empire is being dragged into World War III by JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) and the evil and demonic JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.

    The treasonous Biden administration is infested with agents of JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) and JOG has two main goals for 2024: 1) JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) wants to continue to use mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy the European Christian nations — USA, Australia, Canada, Germany, Italy, Ireland, France, Sweden, Spain…etc. and 2) JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) wants to continue to use the American Empire’s military to fight wars on behalf of the millstone client state of Israel.

    There is no doubt that JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) plotted to racially transform the United States — and many other European Christian nations — by using mass immigration as a demographic weapon. It is a historical fact that can’t be disputed.

    The JEW QUESTION explained:

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

    The American Empire must shake off the nation-wrecking ghoul of global Jewry that has fastened itself on the neck of the USA.

    JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) will scream out and spread any propaganda lies — such as the decapitated babies — to guilt trip White Core Christian Americans into pouring more loot down the Israel rathole and into using the US military as muscle to fight endless, unnecessary wars on behalf of the millstone client state of Israel.

    The greatest vulnerability that the Israel First Lobby has is that the Jews that push the foreign policy interests of Israel ahead of the foreign policy interests of the USA are also the same bunch of Jews that push nation-killing mass immigration for all European Christian nations such as the USA, England, Australia, France, Italy, Germany, Canada, Spain…etc.

    Tweet from 2015:

  90. jsinton says:
    @emerging majority

    Hamas said the intention of the 10/7 “prison break” was to take a few dozen hostages and negotiate for the trade of Hamas prisoners in Israel. It’s a customary practice. They said they didn’t anticipate the mad rush of ordinary non-Hamas people out the gate yelling “Allah Akbar!” What do prisoners do when the prison gates are blown open and the guards are neutralized? They rush out the gate! So that’s why there was so much confusion and disorganization on that day.

  91. Miro23 says:
    @antibeast

    Even without the Palestinians in their midst, the Zionists would need to learn how to live in peace with their Arab neighbors.

    I just can’t see that happening. As any courtroom knows, past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.

    Israel since 1948 has been a continuous story of False Flags, trickery, land theft and oppression of Palestinians – much worse than apartheid South African. And that’s not counting their endless wars and “Holocaust” thievery to rob their “friends” in the US and Europe.

    Henry Ford correctly pointed out in 1920 that International Jewry is the world’s foremost problem.

  92. @Jett Rucker

    Off the top of my head,Algeria would be over a thousand kilometers from Occupied Palestine.

  93. “How the Western Media Are Protecting the Israelis”

    Things would become more clear and we would live in a better world if the subtitle for this article read more accurately “How the Jewish dominated Western Media Are Protecting the Israelis.” This is just the truth after all and just this simple change would help to clarify the entire situation.

    On a similar note instead of using the term “the United States government” people should say “the Zionist controlled United States government.” Again, it’s just the truth and it more accurately frames who’s the boss and who is making the policy decisions.

    Seriously folks, being honest about the truth would help a lot.

  94. Lydia says:

    the bodies were returned to the city of Rafah, and came from different parts of the Strip. Source: Government Media Office in Gaza.
    Edited · 3h

    Where is the justice??

    Been doing for years also biggest donators of skin also

    we KN🇮🇱W who the biggest organ harvesters & thieves are in the W🌍RLD !

    They steal everything!

    Horror after horror. Pure EVIL!!

    why is this not in the news? surprise ..surprise

    Wow this is just unthinkable! Why can’t they just be forward about what they do then instead of lying about everything!

    #freepalestine

    There is no end to the crimes that are being committed in Gaza. Its only the all mighty Allah that can stop this.SubhanaAllah

    Is this a part of self defense @Potus @joebiden @VP @secblinken

    https://www.instagram.com/p/C1VNVYkuLMS/

  95. Lydia says:
    @kratic

    Forcibly displaced families were sheltering in the United Nations-run Shadia Abu Ghazala School west of the #Jabalia refugee camp in northern #Gaza when #Israeli soldiers entered the building. What followed was a massacre, according to witnesses and families of those who were killed in the early December assault.⁠
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    Bodies were piled up instead of books in the classroom. Bullet holes pockmarked some walls. Others were charred, apparently by fire.⁠
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    Witnesses said several people, including women, children and babies, were killed execution-style by Israeli forces while they were sheltering inside the school. ⁠
    .⁠
    A father of one of the victims said Israeli forces killed them by “firing at them point-blank”. Their bodies were “swollen and filled with worms”, he added.⁠
    .⁠
    “They expelled about 20 people from the school, stripped them of their clothes, and interrogated them,” he said.⁠
    .⁠
    According to Jumaa, Israeli soldiers had “written something in Hebrew” on his nephew’s face.“We did not understand the meaning, and we were in a hurry to bury them days later as their bodies had decomposed,” he said.⁠
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    🔗Tap the link in bio for more.⁠
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    #Israel_Gaza_War #Israel⁠
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    📝 Mohamed Zaanin for Al Jazeera English⁠
    📸 Fadi Whadi, @Reuters
    6h

    The two state solution is a joke after seeing these countless crimes

    How is this going after Hamas? Omg Un-freaking-real.

    They will pay for this! All this blood will stains Israelí people hands for generations

    Contempt for Human Life. WORST RACIST regime in history. Just Atrocities. 😭 They want more Territories and Wealth from a Fragile and Defenseless People. No Crime Justifies this Barbarism.

    How crazy and sick can a government be to order a bloodbath in schools! Sad that the number of victims is increasing, the massacre has already lasted 3 months and there is no end in sight! sad and sick! Free🇵🇸

    Time for leaders around the world to invoke a UN Genocide Convention

    This wont be covered in UK mainstream media, this they will chose to ignore

    I$real has made mockery of every institution dedicated to preserving life. Massacres in UN schools 😡. How is the world still turning a blind eye to this. Your indifference is fuelling these crimes by the IOF

    They just won’t stop. Atrocity after atrocity. Massacre after massacre. And the world continues to watch and finance it.

    UN panel of genocide consisting of 57 scholars confirmed that Israel commits a genocide in Palestine. 🇵🇸Free Palestine 🇵🇸

    I dont know what to say enymore 💔ore what to do 💔

    How is it possible that they can do as they wish yet NO ONE can make them stop their E^ILNESS?! This is out of control. They are destroying PALESTINIANS in the most BRUT AL and HORRIFIC ways. Their BRUT ALITY will NEVER be FORGOTTEN and they will NEVER be FORGIVEN. The world is watching. The world NOW KNOWS the TRUTH! FREE PALESTINE 🕊️💔🇵🇸💔🕊️ ALWAYS & FOREVER!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/C1U4wBhRckn/

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    Video Link

    WATCH: IDF Appears to Round Up Half-Naked Men in Gaza
    “and children”

    A video from Gaza City appears to show Israeli troops rounding up a dozens of Palestinian men stripped down to their underwear.

    Armed soldiers seemingly direct the group in the middle of Yarmouk Stadium in Gaza City, with some holding their hands above their heads.

    The Israeli Defence Forces say “individuals suspected of involvement in terrorist activity are being detained and questioned”.
    Palestinian detainees describe horrific torture by Israeli forces

    A warning that some of the footage may be distressing to viewers.

    Israel has arrested more than 2,600 Palestinians from Gaza including doctors and journalists since it began its war.

    The fate of those detained and their whereabouts remain largely unknown.

    Al Jazeera spoke to some Palestinians who were released and they gave accounts of torture and abuse they endured.

    Triestino Mariniello is Professor of Law at Liverpool John Moores University, a specialist in international law and a member of the Legal Team representing Gaza Victims before the International Criminal Court

    Video Link
    ppl without heart and they r
    announcing that they are the best and most civilized ppl.

    Video Link

    Two Palestinian men released from Israeli detention brought to Gaza hospital

    RESTRICTION SUMMARY:

    ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Deir al-Balah, Gaza Strip – 19 December 2023
    1. Medical workers carrying Palestinian man released from Israeli detention out of ambulance on stretcher ++MUTE++
    2. Released Palestinian detainee Mohammad al-Araj sitting on floor of room of al-Aqsa Hospital
    3. Released detainees on hospital floor
    4. Released detainee speaking
    5. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Mohammad al-Araj, Palestinian man released from Israeli detention:
    “They (Israeli military) asked for the evacuation of the displaced people, the doctors, and the wounded. We remained besieged for four days. The bombing was around al-Mamadani (al-Ahli) Hospital. The tank entered the yard of the hospital and returned. At nine o’clock at night, the tank started bombing near al-Mamadani. In the morning, they had bulldozed the cemetery, and they were using loudspeakers asking the wounded and the displaced in al-Mamadani Hospital to evacuate.”
    6. Released detainees on hospital floor
    7. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Mohammad al-Araj, Palestinian man released from Israeli detention:
    “Torture, they torture everyone they want, we heard the sound of screaming and our eyes were covered, we did not know what would happen to us, whether we would be killed or live.”
    8. Released detainees on hospital floor
    9. SOUNDBITE (Arabic) Mohammad al-Araj, Palestinian man released from Israeli detention:
    “The others, I do not know what happened to them or how many they were. My disabled brother was also taken away, and I do not know what happened to him. My mother was wounded in her head and her back when the roof of a house fell on her. I do not know what happened to them.”
    (Journalist off screen: “How many were there?”)
    “About 150 people, from injuries and displaced people, and maybe more.”
    10. Various of released detainee receiving treatment on hospital floor
    STORYLINE:
    Two Palestinian men recently released from Israeli detention were brought to a hospital in central Gaza on Tuesday, saying they were tortured while they were held.

    Mohammad al-Araj and another man arrived at the al-Aqsa Hospital in Deir al-Balah to be treated a day after they were among dozens of men who crossed back into the Gaza Strip at the Kerem Shalom crossing the previous day.

    They were among hundreds of Palestinians who had been detained by the Israeli military in recent weeks as it stepped up its ground offensive.

    They told The Associated Press that all the detainees had their hands tied, and tortured by Israeli forces.

    “We heard the sound of screaming and our eyes were covered,” al-Araj said. “We did not know what would happen to us, whether we would be killed or live.”

    Al-Araj said he was detained after a strike on al-Ahli hospital in Gaza City.

    The roundups were an emerging tactic in Israel’s operations in Gaza with its military seeking to solidify control in evacuated areas in the north and collect intelligence.

    The air and ground war, launched in response to Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack into Israel, has killed nearly 20,000 Palestinians, displaced some 1.9 million, demolished much of northern Gaza and sparked attacks on U.S. and Israeli targets across the region.

  96. @Miro23

    Perceptive analysis, supported by the man himself in the WSJ:

    Benjamin Netanyahu: Our Three Prerequisites for Peace
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/benjamin-netanyahu-our-three-prerequisites-for-peace-gaza-israel-bff895bd

    Tl;dr America must guarantee everything the jews want, from here to eternity, at whatever cost to itself, and then — maybe then — Israel will consider moderating its latest slaughterfest of women and children.

    But, no promises: after all, promises are tributes the goyim must pay to the Chosen Race, not the other way around.

  97. @one nobody

    Algeria is the best position to strike Israeli shipping and is farther than Iraq to strike.

    In this context it’s worth pointing out that the USA has supplied Israel with air-to-air refueling capabilities so that “IDF” bombers can reach any target on earth.

  98. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    It looks to me as though drones aren’t particularly effective, even when they hit their target.
    Do they even qualify as an actual nuisance? Could they sink a rowboat?
    Is the Houthi blockade a big nothingburger?

  99. Same with Austfailia. The rulers don’t dare to get off their knees and stop licking the US behind, afraid they would be Gough’d.

  100. @Notsofast

    Your insights are always top notch and add value to the conversation around each article here. I’ve long thought that this 3rd World War is economic as well. Somehow I found Russian products here in North Carolina. I missed my kvass from Russia. The shopkeeper told me that Ukrainians are purchasing these Russian goods and exporting them. It seems there’s some level of business between Russia and Ukraine still despite everything. I’d wager some other ex-Soviet republics are doing the same. You couldn’t make this stuff up. In this economic war I can’t see the West winning. Stagflation will happen soon. Ironically, I believe the American Empire will collapse much like the USSR did. Both were pretty absurd by the end. As a scholar of Russia and a Russianist it’s good to see the country getting back to its old roots and traditions.

  101. @Haxo Angmark

    chuck lowe noted-

    If anyone fires a fuckin missile from that island, they will be dead as fried chicken in a Jewish New York second.

    And all this time I thought Gibralter was the very end of the Iberian peninsula!

  102. Art says:
    @jsinton

    The war with Hezbollah continues to heat up, and that could quickly develop into a quagmire there too. Also Syria, West Bank, Jordan, who knows? Even the Saudis are forced to take sides here.

    I have read that Egypt’s ruler, General Sisi is a Jew – if he was to lose power Israel would be toast for ever and ever.

    • Agree: Bruce In Texas
  103. Malla says:
    @one nobody

    Around 1780 India’s GDP was 27% of the World’s GDP and Britain was 3%. About a hundred years later the numbers reversed, Braitains GDP was around 27% and India was around 2%.

    India being 27% of the World economy is based on guestimates. There is no concrete data about the size of the Global economy before 1815.
    Secondly India was (supposedly) 27% of a much smaller global economy, the Global economy expanded enormously after the Industrial Revolution. Back in 1600, the USA did not exist but in 1950, the USA was 50% of Global GDP, in other words parts of the World outside of India as in Europe, USA, Australia/Canada/NZ, Japan saw massive economic expansion and accounted most of the Global economic growth. India’s economy grew too during the British Empire but at a much slower pace, not because of bad British policy but because India was a feudal society which was finding it hard to move to a modern society. Add to that extremely low Indian labour productivity, which was not a big issue in the pre-Industrial age as well as the fact that India was a seeing a Malthusian population growth which ended in the 1960s, after India left the British Empire. Actually had India not been part of the British Empire, India’s share of global GDP would have been even worse, would have seen a far greater reduction.
    And each and every traveler who visited India ate the eve of the British conquests spoke of the extreme poverty of the Indian commoners contrasted by the extreme wealth of the Indian elites. India was not looted by the British much, Indians were looted by their own elites and other invaders like the Afghans and Iranians. Nader Shah of Iran looted multiple times more out of India then any financial benefit the British got out of India.

    However, for you to say “As far as robbing, Britain and America robbing the World is pure prime grade B.S. Britain hardly did it during the Empire.” that’s truly ignorant.

    No it is not. In most cases the colonial Empires were expensive money losing enterprises for the European powers as well as Japan. And after WW2 too I do not know of any looting.
    As far as the USA keeping the sea lanes open, that was done because the USA wanted the Europeans and Japanese to give up Empire building as it saw these colonial Empires as threat to it’s global trade. They had not forgotten the Imperial Preference System the British Empire had imposed which cut off US trade from the British Empire after WW!.
    The Americans wanted Western European countries as well as Japan to give up any attempts of Empire building, so in return the US Navy would patrol the oceans and keep it safe for trade. Any nation could trade with any other, all under the security of the US Navy. This was the Freedom of the Seas concept which the US brought out, again to primarily prevent Western Europeans and the Japanese trying Empire building again which could create trade blocs to the detriment of the USA. This way the Western Europeans did not need their expensive money losing overseas Empires anymore, as inter European fears of supply chain disruption, which drove all that colonial Empire building, vanished into thin air. This actually benefitted Western Europe and Japan and now instead of losing money on loss making colonies, they prospered enormously after WW2.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  104. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Of course it steals.

    How much percent of US oil comes from Syria? If what you say is true, then it is the American ELITES who steal, with virtually no benefit to the average American. How many American oil companies got much benefit in Iraq? The USA has always got a good chunk of it’s oil from Canada and Mexico and now the USA is itself a major oil producer and exporter. Add to that, American crude is actually very ‘sweet’. Very cheap to distillate into it’s constituent parts per barrel. Compared to American oil, Venezuelan oil is extremely ‘sour’.

    https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/fact-664-february-28-2011-2010-us-petroleum-imports-country#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20imported%20almost%2012,which%20the%20U.S.%20imported%20petroleum.

    Even back in 2010, the USA was importing most of it’s crude from Canada and Mexico. Iraq is way down the list.

    https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/us-imports-canadian-oil-sands-have-doubled-2005/#:~:text=U.S.%20imports%20of%20crude%20oil%20from%20Canada%20grew%20from%201.6,from%20Canada%27s%20National%20Energy%20Board.
    American import of Canadian Crude doubled from 2005, even at the height of the Iraqi occupation. Why get Canadian crude, if you get cheap Iraqi loot oil?

    https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10621

    Iraq supplying only a tiny percent of crude imports into the USA at height of occupation, Canada supplying 10 times the crude as much as Iraq to the USA during the height of occupation.

    Iraq was not about oil, it was about Israel and about White Man’s Burden B.S. that they would introduce “democracy” into Iraq and that would turn Iraqis into Swedes. Total failure and fuckup with loads of people needlessly dead.
    This is exactly why racism is a good thing, it prevents all that White Man’s burden screw ups.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  105. Wokechoke says:
    @complex pseudonymic handle

    Gibraltar is a British naval base.

    If any missile strikes a Jew ship from there it will involve MI6 or SIS doing false flag cloak and dagger stuff.

  106. Anon[452] • Disclaimer says:
    @GMC

    He was right, Russia / USSR never changed one bit with the “fall of communism” myth.

    I talked to some older Russians who laughed at the whole idea, said “americans will buy anything”.

    • Replies: @GMC
  107. @Malla

    Iraq was not about oil, it was about Israel and about White Man’s Burden B.S. that they would introduce “democracy” into Iraq and that would turn Iraqis into Swedes. Total failure and fuckup with loads of people needlessly dead.
    This is exactly why racism is a good thing, it prevents all that White Man’s burden screw ups.

    That was propaganda for the media, the public and the World (the White man’s burden, democracy, etc.), but yes, you were right when you said that it was about Israel. They surely knew they couldn’t turn Iraq into Sweden, and wouldn’t even if they could.

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
    • Replies: @Malla
  108. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @complex pseudonymic handle

    Gibraltar an island? Yes, it IS a compact target, I’d say (never been there, but sailed past it once on a naval vessel).

  109. antibeast says:
    @Malla

    In most cases the colonial Empires were expensive money losing enterprises for the European powers as well as Japan.

    That’s too simplistic a generalization to describe as unprofitable the colonial enterprises of Europeans such as the British EIC which profited off the plunder of their colonies in Asia. As a private company, the British EIC ceased to be profitable after losing their trade monopoly in Asia, the most profitable of which was the Indian Opium trade with China. The British Raj which took over the bankrupt British EIC may not have been profitable because the former had to pay off the British stockholders of the latter for the loss of their EIC franchise in India. To claim that the British EIC never made any profit out of the Indian Opium trade is silly nonsense. Of course, they did. But the Bengal Opium sold by the British EIC had to compete against Malwa Opium sold by the Parsis in Bombay. Then came the Sassoons who took over the Indian Opium trade by directly trading with HK after the First Opium War in 1840. Then the Second Opium War in 1860 legalized the Chinese Opium trade which supplanted the Indian Opium trade by the late 1890s.

    The reason why the British EIC started the Indian Opium trade with China — which lasted a hundred years, from the late 1790s to the late 1890s until its official end in 1910 — had nothing to do with the balance of payments deficit of England allegedly caused by imports of Chinese tea and silk but everything to do with the British EIC in India which lost its cotton textile industry to English imports. The British EIC was going bankrupt because its main business of selling Indian cotton textiles paid for by levying taxes onto Indian farmers collapsed due to imported English textiles. The silver paid by Chinese imports of Indian Opium went to the coffers of the British EIC which had to pay for the expensive upkeep of its private army in India.

    The Dutch EIC was also highly profitable, especially in the African Slave trade. As were the South Manchurian Railway, Showa Steel and other colonial enterprises owned and operated by the Japanese in China prior to WWII.

    • Replies: @Malla
  110. Corrupt says:
    @Notsofast

    One positive effect attacks near Gibraltar would have is that the US Navy would be forced to cover both ends of the Mediterranean Sea, preventing them from massing in the eastern Med to support jizzreal against Hezbollah and the Houthi’s.

  111. Malla says:
    @antibeast

    as the British EIC which profited off the plunder of their colonies in Asia.

    False. Sure there was some plunder after war but it’s “profitability” for the EIC in the long run is highly overstated.

    To claim that the British EIC never made any profit out of the Indian Opium trade is silly nonsense.

    The EIC needed opium money to run India. Bengal and Malwa (outside EIC control for a long time) opium were superior to the opium growing in China, until later when the Chinese began producing superior opium too. The opium industry of India was started by the earlier Mughal Government of India, the EIC Government of India simply inherited it. India had been exporting opium to it’s neighbouring regions before the English conquered any territory in India. The Ottomans to were big into opium cultivation and exports.

    The EIC becoming bankrupt was not surprising. You can blame cheaper British textiles but the main culprit was PM William Pitt the Younger. The English EIC directors was interested in ruling only Bengal and some regions of Southern India. They wisely opposed any expansion of the British Empire outside these regions into India, because these two regions were good enough for their trade and expansion into more territory would mean more expenses in governance and thus more costs.
    The problem came from the liberal Whigs of that time, who felt it was England’s duty to modernize feudal India. White Man’s Burden’s burden, here we go again.
    This idea of the Whigs was vehemently opposed by the directors of the EIC because they would have to foot the bill and incur the losses for the dreamy ideals of the Whigs. Now Prime Minister William Pitt the Younger, while agreeing with the Directors on their position, secretly in his heart was sympathetic to the liberal cause of modernizing India. So PM Pitt plays a trick on the EIC directors, he agrees that the EIC rule should not increase in India which would make the whole Indian operation financially burdensome but he negotiates and tokes the right to appoint the Governor General of India from the Directors of the English EIC .
    And he smartly choses Lord Mornington’s son, Richard Colley Wellesley, 1st Marquess Wellesley. Wellesley shared Pitt’s foreign policy (he would often defend it with speeches), but he did it for different reasons. Mornington seems to have caught Pitt’s large political spirit in the period 1798 to 1805. For Mornington/Wellesley, it was not some liberal dreams of modernising India which drove his beliefs, but the rivalry with France, which in Europe placed Britain at the head of coalition after coalition against the French, made Mornington aware of the necessity of ensuring French power did not reign supreme in India. Any European power conquering India, would become the dominant power of the World, and Mornington/ Wellesley wanted to make sure, no non British European power, especially the Dutch or the French did get India.
    Mornington/ Governor General Wellesley of India would play a key role in the defeat of the mighty Maratha Empire, which were defacto ruling a big chunk of India. As the Maratha Empire was to a large extent absorbed into the British Empire, the British Empire in India expanded enormously and the possibility of a major French Empire in India, which would have been disastrous for Global British power was now very very low. This Mornington/ Lord Wellesley of India was nobody else but the brother of Field Marshal Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington, who would go on to defeat Napoleon in Waterloo, later on. Wellington would himself say that the Battle of Assaye, where the British Imperial forces defeated Maratha Imperial forces during the Second Anglo-Maratha War, was a far more important battle for him personally, than Waterloo. This expansion of EIC rule in India was detrimental for EIC finances as the cost of administration increased enormously for an entity whose chief interest was trade.

  112. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    They surely knew they couldn’t turn Iraq into Sweden, and wouldn’t even if they could.

    The sad part is they REALLY believed they would turn Iraq into another Sweden. They are THAT stupid. That is what is scary. Enter Mr Luttwak. Edward Luttwak, an American of Romanian Jewish heritage is considered the World’s foremost strategist. He has been an advisor on strategy to many governments in the world including the United States of America, the People’s Republic of China, Israel, and the Republic of India. He is the author known for his works on grand strategy, military strategy, geoeconomics, military history, and international relations. He is best known for being the author of Coup d’État: A Practical Handbook. His book Strategy: The Logic of War and Peace, also published in Chinese, Russian and ten other languages, is widely used at war colleges around the world. His books are currently published in 29 languages besides English.

    He even advised the Communist Chinese government many times when the Chinese were scared of a Soviet attack. Luttwak was the guy who advised them to buy Israeli weapons (of British design), which was followed through. Luttwak also opposed the war in Iraq because he told the Americans because Iraqis (and Afghans) can never become like your average Swede or Korean unless 75% of the males are killed and the place is ruled for 3 centuries at least, or else the Iraqi project would be a failure. Luttwak was also concerned about the increasing power of Iran in Iraq, if Saddam was removed and according to him Iran was the great danger to Israel. Because Lutwakk thought it was not easy to convert Iraqis in mentality into Swedes, Joe Biden who was on the Iraqi invasion organization, a supporter of the Iraq invasion angrily called Lutwakk, a Jew, a “racist”.

    This proves that the elites who run America are not only criminal but also nuts, deranged nutcases. Putin and Lavrov combined alone have more genuine knowledge of how the World works than the nuts running the USA. Luttwak in another interview said this about the Americans, about the reluctance of American diplomatic teams to learn new languages, because if you have knowledge of the local language , only then you can get a true FEEL of the country. For example he speaks of meeting an American diplomatic team in Uzbekistan. He asks if they can understand or read Uzbek, the Americans reply that you do not need to know Uzbek because if you know Russian, you can understand whats going on in Uzbekistan. Basically Russian is to Central Asia, like what English is to South Asia. Except that when he asks them if they could understand or read Russian, they could not!!!! Lutwakk on the other hand contrasts the Americans to the Russians, he speaks of how Sergey Lavrov, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, who knows two foreign languages very fluently, it was needed of him, during his course. He has fluency in Sinhalese (Sri Lanka) and Maldivian (Maldives). America is run by nuts, Putin alone understands the World better than the whole Murican elite class if you ask me.

  113. antibeast says:
    @Malla

    This expansion of EIC rule in India was detrimental for EIC finances as the cost of administration increased enormously for an entity whose chief interest was trade.

    Yes, this expansion of EIC rule in India was the main reason why the British EIC became a money losing colonial enterprise. But that was due to Robert Clive’s military victory at the Battle of Plassey in 1757. William Pitt the Younger was born on the same year when the British EIC took over Bengal which transformed the British EIC into a political institution with administrative rights to rule Bengal. Over time, the British EIC came to rule over the entire Indian subcontinent which required the expansion of its private army to maintain public order as well as the building of its political institutions to govern the vast population of India.

    Just as the funds to pay for these expenses came from its trade monopoly with India and China, the Industrial Revolution in England allowed the mass production of cotton textiles which began to displace the Indian cotton textiles exported by the British EIC. That’s why the British EIC turned to the Bengal Opium trade to finance its expenses in governing India because its Indian cotton textile exports had lost to English cotton textiles by the late 1700s. Then the India Acts of 1813 and 1833 followed which stripped the British EIC of its trade monopoly with India and China thereby allowing English cotton textiles and Malwa Opium to be exported to India and China directly, bypassing the British EIC.

  114. Anon[654] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wokechoke

    When I saw that explosion & ship go down in Crimea I instantly linked it to this scuffle.

  115. Notsofast says:
    @X101

    yes, the u.n. and i.c.c. are useless vestigial anachronisms, like wings on a kiwi. justice will never come through them but it will eventually happen through other means. once the mighty have fallen there will be no end to the line of people queueing up to kick them. remember israel set the precedent of kidnapping nazis and renditioning them to israel for show trails.

    your point of the polisario, being a proxy of a proxy is a good one, but with algeria dropping out of opec and their ongoing feud with morroco, this might be time for old scores to be settled as with yemen.

    frankly i don’t think even the zioneocons will be dumb enough to open yet another front, but if they do this will speed the demise of both of these rogue nations.

  116. @Malla

    Oh how wonderful that you are reciting the babblings of the economist Eugene Staley who wrote books about the future of underdeveloped countries who fervently sought to dismiss that colonialist exploitation by European imperialists wasn’t an explanation because the cost of maintinAING THE EMPIRE FAR EXCEEDED THE BENEFITS DERIVED FROM that clearly showed that such exploitation could not have been motivating it.

    Oh yeah, before assessing the credibility of that claim, let it be noted he was the co-author of the famous Staley-Taylor plan the two of them concocted and presented to the President in 1961 as the sure fire framework for a war winning strategy for defeating the insurrection that was to have been completed by the end of 1962 that among its other parts called for the creation of 16,000 “strategic hamlets (Wilfred G. Burchett, Vietnam: The Inside Story of a Guerilla War (New York: International Publishers, 2d ed. Dec. 1964)), p. 189.

    Kennedy to his misfortune unfortunately signed on to this brilliant strategy which was in shambles before it even got started/.

    Thus with this as his track record for helping underdeveloped countries liberate themselves from the shackles imposed on them by Western imperialist countries and whose underdevelopment was, according to Staley, completely unrelated to their oppression by those imperialist countries who were by no means exploiting them for economic gains because the cost of doing so exceeded the benefits to be derived from it so that their doing so could only be explained by benign intentions to improve the lot of those countries, Staley completely as likewise ignored the prerequisites that would have had to be satisfied for his idiotic plan to work that failed precisely because they were never met. Thus Staley likewise ignores in his cost benefit analysis that was the basis for his explaining that that economic benefits could not have motivated Western imperialism that the costs were not paid by the same people who derived the benefits. Thus the cost of of acquiring and maintaining the Empires were borne and paid for by the working masses who derived little benefits, while the economic benefits to be derived from colonialist oppression was almost entire realized by the elites who paid for very little of the costs, and it was, of course, those who derived the benefits who controlled their government vassals who were paid to convince the exploited masses into supporting their colonialists ventures because of the pride they could feel for the sub never setting on the British Empire, and etc. for all the other Western imperialists.

    And oh, yes, it was the simpleminded VC who saw through the entire scheme of the Staley-Taylor plan and blew it to bit because they were not at all interested in absorbing the benefits the Staley-Taylor plan offered them and instead insisted on being masters in their own house by kicking out the imperialists at whatever cost it took.

    That’s something Staley also never figured into his calculations.

    The man and his babblings were never more than fig leaves justifying imperialist exploitation of the underdeveloped countries that wESTERN IMPERIALIST POWERS EXPLOITED FOR THE MATERIALIST BENEFITS THEY DERIVED FROM at the expense of the exploited colonialized people.

    And as the murderous Jewish colonialists who are the last vestiges of white-European imperialism are daily making clear by their murderous rampage the benefits the locals can expect to reap from their presence in the territories they seize by force from its inhabitants, their expulsion from the territories they have acquired and seek to maintain by force are clearly numbered as their daily actions revolt the rest of humanity.

  117. GMC says:
    @Anon

    The USA allies will spread all the propaganda that it needs to – or else – Hello Fukushima.

  118. Anonymous[157] • Disclaimer says:
    @one nobody

    The US never joined anyone in friendship,peace or prosperity in its entire history. It was born off genocide of its indigenous, then embroiled in a civil war with the southern states to keep the high import tariffs flowing to the north to boost its industrial strength. They steal billions from the rest of the world using their dollar and the military. Today they are stealing oil from Syria worth billions for a number of years, and,and and

  119. rienzi says:
    @complex pseudonymic handle

    Gibraltar is on a peninsula, not an island, but, truth be known, is pretty close to being one.

    A tip for tourists. Do not try to drive into Gibraltar. It will take forever, and there is almost nowhere to park once inside. Park your car around the big park, just to the east of the McDonalds and Burger King. Then walk into Gibraltar. You will be glad you did.

  120. @eah

    Try to mention that the US/NATO attack on Russia is as much an attack on Europe and especially Germany. The destruction of Nordstream 2 was an economic attack on fellow NATO members by two NATO members, the US and Norway. You will be banned from the mainstream media.

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