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“Aren’t the Chicago 7 all Jews?”
President Richard Nixon

Richard Nixon was wrong when he assumed that every member of the Chicago 7 was Jewish, but he was close enough. The 1969 trial of seven leftwing activists for inciting a riot at August 1968’s Democratic National Convention was an intensely Jewish moment in American history. Of the seven activists on trial, three were Jews (Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Lee Weiner), and a further two (Tom Hayden and David Dellinger) lived their lives in a heavily Jewish milieu and dedicated themselves to Jewish causes. The judge in the trial, Julius Hoffman, was Jewish, as were both defense attorneys (William Moses Kunstler and Leonard Weinglass) and one of the prosecutors (Richard Schultz). For several reasons, I’ve always regarded the ultimately chaotic and clownish trial of the Chicago 7 as nothing more than a piece of degenerate Jewish political performance art, demoralising to the American justice system and energising to a new generation of Judeo-Anarchist activists. These shambolic events of 1968/9 have now been disinterred for Netflix’s propagandistic and revisionist account of the episode, The Trial of the Chicago 7, in which Jewish writer/director Aaron Sorkin attempts to refashion its “lessons” for application in Trump’s America. The result is both historically disingenuous and artistically bland.

Sorkin’s The Trial of the Chicago 7 opens with a montage of eight [including Bobby Seale] activists preparing to protest at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. There are several clear dogwhistles to Black Lives Matter, with barely veiled justifications of violence, including an exchange in the opening montage between Black Panther Leader Seale and a woman named Sondra. Sondra attempts to reason with Seale that his presence as a Black leader at a potentially violent rally will be taken “out of context” by “every White person in America.” As Seale persists in his preparations, Sondra begins to invoke “Dr King” before Seale responds:

[King] Is dead. He has a dream? Now he has a fuckin’ bullet in his head. Martin’s dead, Malcolm’s dead, Medgar’s dead, Bobby’s dead, Jesus is dead. They tried it peacefully, we gonna try something else.

This “something else” isn’t explored in any significant way because the film proceeds from the understanding that the violence and unrest in Chicago was purely the result of police brutality and bad local government. Painfully unaware of itself, the film sits uneasily in the aftermath of catastrophic policing and government during Charlottesville’s 2016 rally, an event that has unfairly gone down in history and popular consciousness as an exemplar of a “bad protest.” The ghost of Charlottesville, for me at least, hangs heavily over The Trial of the Chicago 7, highlighting its hypocrisy and lending the film a somewhat satirical or parodic quality that is entirely unintended and which, to my mind, is never shaken off.

The necessity of portraying the radical defendants as sympathetic has required a remarkable taming of all the characters involved, to the extent that all appear innocent to the point of mediocrity. Almost everyone in the film is two-dimensional with the possible exception of Hoffman and Rubin who are nevertheless portrayed as harmless, big-hearted clowns. Noted in history for their vulgarity and aggression (Abbie Hoffman declared of his intentions on going to Chicago:” We are dirty, smelly, grimy and foul. … We will piss and shit and fuck in public. … We will be constantly stoned or tripping on every drug known to man”), Hoffman and Rubin are reduced by Sorkin to rather bloodless and timid comic relief. We are given no indication as to the motivations or life trajectories of either Jewish activist, or indeed any of the Chicago 7, presumably because we are meant to assume that they were simply “good people” who wanted only to end the war.

As The Times of Israel has noted, the film represents a trial bleached of its intensely Jewish qualities. I’ve written previously that the 1960s New Left was indisputably a Jewish subculture. Jerry Rubin, given no backstory in Sorkin’s film, had “solidly Jewish roots” and after receiving his baccalaureate “he attended Hebrew University and later returned to Israel to spend a year there with his brother.”[1]S.R. Lichter and S. Rothman, ‘Jewish Ethnicity and Radical Culture: A Social Psychological Study of Political Activists,’ Political Psychology, Vol.3, No.1, (Spring 1981), 135. His ‘Youth International Party,’ or Yippies, was co-founded with fellow Jewish radicals Abbie Hoffman and Paul Krassner. He married a Jewish woman, Mimi Leonard. Rubin conceived of himself as being at war with the White race. By his own admission, Rubin stated that in forming the ‘Yippie’ movement he had “dropped out of the white race and the Amerikan [sic] nation.”[2]E. Sundquist, Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America, (Harvard University Press, 2005), 350. Rubin believed that Jews in particular were “obligated to resist the fascism of whiteness.”[3]Ibid.
(E. Sundquist, Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America, (Harvard University Press, 2005), 350.)
He was motivated by narcissistic notions of Jewish moral superiority, indicating a strong identification with his fellows Jews. In a book he wrote while in County Jail, he noted that “It is the Jew who should always be on the side of the poor, the oppressed, the underdog, the wretched of the earth. … And thousands of ex-Amerikan, ex-Jews are. Three of the kids killed at Kent State were Jews. An unusually high proportion of hippies and revolutionaries are Jews.”[4]Ibid.
(E. Sundquist, Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America, (Harvard University Press, 2005), 350.)

Despite having no attachment to the religious content of Judaism, Abbie Hoffman was undoubtedly also deeply connected to his Jewishness and the “invisible” Jewish subculture. He attended Brandeis University (mentioned in the film) at a time when it was basically a refuge for blacklisted Jewish academics, such as the Frankfurt School’s Herbert Marcuse, that had been rooted out from Harvard and MIT as ‘subversive’ by McCarthy. Brandeis survived the purge unscathed because McCarthy refused to target the university for fear of being branded anti-Semitic.[5]M. Jezer, Abbie Hoffman: American Rebel (Rutgers University Press, 1993), 21. One of Hoffman’s psychology professors was Abraham Maslow, who imparted to the young Hoffman that society needed changing, and that nonconformity was “a positive sign of mental health.” Hoffman adored Maslow, later reflecting on his Brandeis days by stating, “Most of all I loved Abe Maslow.” During Hoffman’s attendance at Brandeis, Maslow formed a committee of correspondence which widened the circle of Jewish intellectuals who would essentially incubate the younger generation of Jewish radicals who would comprise the new Jewish subculture. As Gerald Sorin puts it, “Jewish overrepresentation in New Left movements looked like Jewish overrepresentation in old left movements.”[6]G. Sorin, Tradition Transformed: The Jewish Experience in America (John Hopkins University Press, 1997), 223. Maslow began corresponding with fellow Jewish gurus Eric Fromm, Kurt Goldstein, Paul Goodman, Ashley Montagu, and David Reisman among others, and together they founded The Journal of Humanistic Psychology. Hoffman, awed by these fellow-ethnic subculture figures, referred to them as “giants” who “walked in the space of my intellectual world.”[7]Jezer, 25. Hoffman was clearly engrossed in non-religious expressions of Jewish identity and in the Jewish subculture, writing in his autobiography that “I came into this world acutely aware of being Jewish and I’m sure I’ll go out that way.”[8]Ibid, 8.
(Jezer, 25.)

None of this is probed in the film, which altogether dodges the prospect of exploring Jewish radicalism in the New Left. What is offered instead is a watered down, ethnically ambiguous, court procedural designed to act as a feel-good movie for comfortable, immature, middle-class leftists who daydream about sticking it to an image of “the Man” that hasn’t had any relevance for over 50 years.

After the opening montage, the film shifts forwards to the trial, returning during key witness testimonies to important moments from the protest. This has the doubly negative effect of both stalling any potential for building tension within the courtroom setting, and splintering any coherent narrative of how and why the protest/riot was planned and executed. John N. Mitchell, the Attorney General, appoints Tom Foran and Richard Schultz as the prosecutors, while all the defendants except Seale are represented by William Kunstler and Leonard Weinglass (played by the Jewish actor Ben Shenkman). Schultz, who in reality was highly ambitious and quite aggressive during the trial [transcripts are available here], is played by the Jewish actor Joseph Gordon-Levitt in a mawkishly written role as very much in sympathy with the protestors, and as clashing with an oppressive and legally questionable WASPish system that he has reluctantly become entangled with. The overall impression, despite Sorkin’s bleaching of Jewishness from the trial, is that of brave, big-hearted Jews and Blacks against cruel WASPs and violent police.

Judge Julius Hoffman, played here by Frank Langella (not Jewish), demonstrates clear bias for the prosecution as well as total incompetence, bad hearing, and poor memory. The trial is constantly interrupted by Hoffman’s inadequacies and biases (exaggerated in the film), by shouts from Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin, and by the interventions of the defense lawyers. In reality, the leftwing audience in the gallery during the trial was notoriously noisy, violent, and difficult, which caused many breaks in proceedings. In the film, however, the gallery is extremely well-behaved with Hoffman himself responsible for most of the disruptions. Judge Hoffman, who is as two-dimensional as every other character in the film, is used mostly as a foil for the childish activities of Abbie Hoffman and Rubin, who show total contempt for the entire judicial process. Hoffman, inept more than malevolent, makes for a poor villain, but since his worst excesses are intercut with faceless, helmeted police wielding batons, we are presumably supposed to perceive him as the representative of “the System” against which the Chicago leftists are “bravely” warring against. Notably stripped from the film is any reference to the real-life exchanges between Abbie Hoffman and Julius Hoffman that involved Jewishness. In particular, Abbie Hoffman accused the judge of betraying Jewish interests, calling out in Yiddish during the trial that Julius Hoffman was a ““Shande fur de Goyim [Disgrace for the Gentiles]” a “Front man for the WASP elite,” and a “disgrace to the Jews, you could have served Hitler better.” During one episode, Hoffman and Rubin entered the courtroom in judges robes. This is repeated in the film with very one notable omission — in reality the robes had yellow stars on them. Sorkin’s omission can be attributed to the desire to clean the film of explicit allusions to Jewishness, and possibly also the desire to absolve the pair of a tastelessness that was in fact their hallmark.

In his The Ordeal of Civility (1974, 193) John Murray Cuddihy notes the overtly ethnic subplot of the trial, particularly the infighting between defendant Abbie Hoffman and Judge Julius Hoffman, the former representing the children of the Eastern European immigrant generation that tended toward political radicalism, and the latter representing the older, more assimilated German-Jewish establishment.

Seale’s attorney is not present due to illness, but Seale is repeatedly told by Judge Hoffman that he can’t represent himself. The constant silencing of Seale, historically accurate, along with some broader subtle commentary on police violence against Blacks, is the only clearly sustained narrative of the film, and was the only aspect I found remotely interesting. Deprived of legal assistance, Seale takes informal advice from his associate Fred Hampton. Seale finds out during the trial that Hampton has been killed during a police raid. This prompts Seale to become more assertive in pushing for his right to defend himself. Judge Hoffman responds by having Seale taken to another room, beaten, and returned gagged and shackled. The sequence is milked in the film for propaganda value, omitting the fact that, in reality, Seale had violently lunged at prosecutor Schultz and that it was the plan of the defendants to have Seale “bound and gagged so they could demonstrate to the world that the federal courts were racist.” The scene ends with Hoffman, losing control of the courtroom, taking Schultz’s suggestion of declaring Seale’s case a mistrial.

Aside from the propagandistic treatment of Seale’s experiences, The Trial of the Chicago 7 lacks authenticity and emotion. With Seale released from the trial, the film loses even more narrative direction. Kunstler and Weinglass decide to call Ramsey Clark, who was Attorney General during the riots, as a witness. Although Clark is willing to co-operate, and is willing to go on record that violence was started by the police, Judge Hoffman refuses to let the jury hear his testimony. Dellinger reacts furiously, punching a bailiff, resulting in his arrest, but since Dellinger has hardly featured in the film apart from waving to his wife and son, it’s difficult to care. There is a last-minute scramble to introduce tension by focusing on the discovery of a tape in which Hayden is heard, prior to the riot, declaring “Let blood spill everywhere.” The sequence is treated in a very ham-fisted way by Sorkin, and is destroyed by being explored, yet again, in flashbacks. Bringing the movie to a close, Hayden uses his closing statement by naming over 4,500 soldiers that died in the Vietnam War since the trial began, in spite of the judge’s instructions and objections. This prompts many in the court room to stand and cheer, and even Schultz joins in. This closing sequence prompted the real-life Schultz to comment: “That never happened. It was a total fantasy for Hollywood.”

The film closes by listing the various convictions for contempt handed down by Judge Hoffman, all of which were later overturned by other courts. We then find out that Tom Hayden went on to become a politician, and that Jerry Rubin became a stock trader. The seeming incongruity in these career choices, and the feeling that it undoes the trite anti-establishment theme we’ve been presented for two hours, embodies the fact that, stripped of the dirty reality, this is a film without any clear message at all. It isn’t focused enough to be an anti-war film, it hints at commentary on police violence but never directly engages with it, and it never explores the motivations of the radicals and so can never explicitly endorse them. In this sense, Sorkin’s movie is a perfect work of filmic neoliberalism, capable of digesting leftist radicalism and regurgitating it in a more palatable, marketable fashion while ignoring its glaring contradictions and ethnic identifications. Sorkin’s film has absolutely nothing to do say about the way in which these “radicals” became part of the System, or rather that they became an iteration of a new system of control via their participation in politics, the stock market, and, in Lee Weiner’s case, the ADL.

Weiner, a sociology professor and the last surviving Jewish member of the Chicago 7, has perhaps two lines in the entire film. Known in reality as the “quiet one,” this is perhaps justified, but his post-trial career trajectory is probably the most interesting. A 1976 article in Mother Jones reported that Weiner “is said to be somewhere near New York, leading a quiet life, sorting out what being Jewish means to him.”[9]Mother Jones Magazine, Aug 1976, 8. Weiner in fact began working for the ADL where, according to Spencer Tucker, he has been directing “special projects” for years.[10]S. Tucker, The Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War (ABC-CLIO, 2011), 192. When contacted in 2007 by Jeff Kisseloff for a phone interview, Weiner responded that he was “raising money to fight hate.”[11]J. Kisseloff, Generation on Fire: Voices of Protest from the 1960s, An Oral History (University Press of Kentucky, 1997), 83. So Weiner, the “free speech” radical has become a key member of one of the most significant censorship organisations in the world.

Never explicit, it’s in the contradictions and subtleties of the film that it’s Jewish subtexts are revealed. I found it especially interesting that, during a heated exchange between Tom Hayden (played by the very WASPish Eddie Redmayne) and Abbie Hoffman (Sacha Baron-Cohen), there is a very prominent poster of Hitler in the background (with the caption “Visit Chicago” above it). The actual history of the poster is a play on contemporary accusations that Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley was an authoritarian anti-Semite (he did in fact at one point shout at Senator Abraham Ribicoff: “Fuck you, you Jew son of a bitch, you lousy motherfucker go home.”) In any case, Hayden stands directly in front of the Hitler poster, while Rubin, Hoffman, and Weiner stand on the other side of the room, giving the momentary impression of Jews vs WASP/Hitler. This takes on greater significance when one considers that there was some real-life antagonism between Jewish leftists and non-Jewish radicals like Hayden. Hayden was known to have disparaged “the New York intellectual culture,” prompting Irving Howe, especially worried by New Left anti-Zionism, to denounce Hayden for his own authoritarian proclivities and to suggest that the New Left was becoming more “Christian” and “utterly American” (his most scathing insult) due to declining Jewish influence.[12]E. Lederhendler, New York Jews and the Decline of Urban Ethnicity, 1950-1970 (New York: Syracuse University Press, 2001),198. Howe needn’t have worried — Hayden went on to work closely with Jews to innovate Holocaust reparations legislation in California (Holocaust Victims Insurance Act), to be celebrated by the Jewish National Fund for his support for Israel, to employ a Jewish press secretary (Ralph Brave), and to help pioneer “Holocaust education.”

In some ways, it’s the chaos underlying both the real trial, and its filmic representation, that embody the Jewishness of it best. As I wrote at the outset, I’ve always regarded the ultimately chaotic and clownish trial of the Chicago 7 as nothing more than a piece of degenerate Jewish political performance art, demoralising to the American justice system and energising to a new generation of Judeo-Anarchist activists. There was ultimately no meaning to the trial, just as there is no meaning to the film, other than directionless Jewish protest. As Jon Stratton has noted, echoing the comments of John Murray Cuddihy in The Ordeal of Civility, regarding the historical and ethnic issues underpinning the real trial:

The point I want to make here about these people, about the personas they presented which merged with the performances they undertook, is that they lacked civility. Their disruption was, at bottom, a public unsettling of the civility that orders American sociality … The Jews’ lack of civility, and therefore the failure of Western people’s attempts to develop reciprocally civil interactions with Eastern European Jews spread shockwaves through nineteenth-century society. In arguing a larger alienation — since the norms of civility merely spell out and specify for face-to-face interaction the more general values of the culture — the failure of civility came to define the “Jewish problem” as this problem reconstituted itself in the era of social modernity.[13]J. Stratton, Jewish Identity in Western Pop Culture: The Holocaust and Trauma Through Modernity, (New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2008), 182.

The trial of the Chicago 7 was ultimately a demonstration of Jewish tastelessness, chaos, and discord in the midst of American society, involving more than the specific antics of Rubin and Hoffman. The entire episode was a demoralising demonstration of Jewish disruption within the legal system, and the fact that basic Western values and modes of behavior have been viewed by Jews as hostile and oppressive. The trial of the Chicago 7, like so much Jewish activism, was essentially a war on civility. The same antagonisms can be seen today in the quintessentially Jewish vulgarity of comedians like Sarah Silverman, in the riots of Antifa, and in the increasing degeneracy of our cultural and political life. The spirit of the trial lives on in the ceaseless absolving of Antifa rioters of any legal responsibility for their violence and vandalism. Today’s Antifa, of course, will be tomorrow’s politicians, stock traders, and ADL speech monitors, certain to reminisce, without the slightest hint of self-awareness, on the good old days when they fought “the Man.” They might even make a film about it.

Notes

[1] S.R. Lichter and S. Rothman, ‘Jewish Ethnicity and Radical Culture: A Social Psychological Study of Political Activists,’ Political Psychology, Vol.3, No.1, (Spring 1981), 135.

[2] E. Sundquist, Strangers in the Land: Blacks, Jews, Post-Holocaust America, (Harvard University Press, 2005), 350.

[3] Ibid.

[4] Ibid.

[5] M. Jezer, Abbie Hoffman: American Rebel (Rutgers University Press, 1993), 21.

[6] G. Sorin, Tradition Transformed: The Jewish Experience in America (John Hopkins University Press, 1997), 223.

[7] Jezer, 25.

[8] Ibid, 8.

[9] Mother Jones Magazine, Aug 1976, 8.

[10] S. Tucker, The Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War (ABC-CLIO, 2011), 192.

[11] J. Kisseloff, Generation on Fire: Voices of Protest from the 1960s, An Oral History (University Press of Kentucky, 1997), 83.

[12] E. Lederhendler, New York Jews and the Decline of Urban Ethnicity, 1950-1970 (New York: Syracuse University Press, 2001),198.

[13] J. Stratton, Jewish Identity in Western Pop Culture: The Holocaust and Trauma Through Modernity, (New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2008), 182.

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  1. Jerry Rubin would later talk about having a small penis. Abbie Hoffman,of course,wound up cutting his hair,working on the environment and committing suicide.

  2. Icy Blast says:

    Truths that will never be faced…at least not in this world…

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  3. Richard B says:

    a feel-good movie for comfortable, immature, middle-class leftists who daydream about sticking it to an image of “the Man” that hasn’t had any relevance for over 50 years.

    Strictly speaking, we all recreate the world in our own image. Jewish Supremacy Inc. has had pretty much all of the 20th and early 21st century to do it on a global scale. And what’s their image of the world amounted to? They see the world as described in the above quote. For all of their surface sophistication JSI is basically shallow.

    But, something strange, but not all that surprising is happening. The more powerful JSI gets the more dysfunctional and maladaptive the world they control becomes.

    The reason this isn’t surprising, at least to me, is because, though JSI may have been good at infiltration, subversion, radical ingratitude, insane hatred, persecution mania, betrayal, destruction and death, they’re no good at social management.

    Because of this, JSI is fast becoming irrelevant to itself, and not just to itself, but to anyone paying attention. Now that they have Whites pretty much where they want them, in other words, now that they’re on top, they at a place they’ve never been before. And at a time when the world is more complex and unpredictable than ever before in history.

    This could be why, now that they’ve sucked the blood out of the USA, they’re conducting a Fire Sale where everything must go, and with only one buyer – China. And China doesn’t strike on as being all that in to power-sharing. History might have a joker up its sleeve yet. It very well may be.

  4. Richard B says:
    @Father O'Hara

    Abbie Hoffman,of course,wound up cutting his hair,working on the environment and committing suicide.

    I met him in the mid-80’s while in college. It wasn’t much of a gathering. He was nice enough. But even he mocked himself at one point as a has-been. He seemed painfully aware that half the people there considered him a joke. And he came off as a spent force. Not that long after he was dead.

  5. Patriot says:

    Meanwhile, on the West Coast, the Free Speech Movement at Berkeley was ALSO a largely Jewish enterprise, which spawned 15 yrs of “causes”, protests, marching, and looting in California.

    Watch the documentary, “Berkeley in the Sixties”, where you will hear one of the now old movement leaders (Jewish), declare, “We didn’t have any plan for after the revolution, we just wanted to overthrow the system.”

    Poor E. European Jews fled their horrible European existance for refuage in America, where they found a “system” of incredible freedom and wealth and opportunity. Jews prospered here like no other people, yet for the last 100 years they’ve done nothing but try to destroy America.

    A truely selfish, ungrateful, group of hypocrites. And, yes, not all Jews are like this, but, too many are.

  6. Alden says:

    Every time I hit the Netflix icon this Chicago 7 movie pops up. Why in the world was it made 51 years later? The only people who remember it are 65-95 years old. A riot in Chicago, Jew hippies instead of blacks. BFD

    The geriatric liberals are really into nostalgia for their 1960 70s triumphs. Well, I guess it’s better than another MLK special.

  7. Lot says:

    Amusing how Joyce keeps watching movies he “hates.”

    Unmentioned: the protests were primarily about the Vietnam War. “The Jews” attacked in the review were right, LBJ, HH, and Nixon were wrong. If Joyce had been there he’d have been a Bircher calling for white Americans to be taxed to pay for their sons to pointlessly die in the jungle.

  8. I don’t get that Jewish tendency for producing films & shows that, in reality, enrage the audience & induce in them anti-Judaist animus. In many vaguely Jewish, normal corners of society, too.

    Death wish?

  9. Bruno says:

    What’s the point of the article ?

    Jews are less civil and more aggressive. So combined worn their IQ, they disrupt societies where they are prospering.

    Is that a good thing or a bad thing ?

    The Jews were invited by the Romans once they fought against Greeks. And then they were invited in Central Europe by many head of’states. There must have been a gain from them to invite them over and over again

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  10. @Lot

    What a strange comment. This is the first movie review I’ve ever written, and I don’t make a habit of watching films at all.

    The review clearly mentions the anti-war backdrop. Jews like Hoffman and Rubin were predominantly anarchist counter-cultural agitators and not simply protestors against the war. Look at the history of the Yippie movement. Even in the movie there’s a discussion about how Hoffman’s goals go beyond “anti-war” protesting and encompass culture.

    A lot of people in the 60s were “right” about the war without acting like disgusting, entitled trash. I’d have opposed the war, and these degenerates, with equal vigor.

  11. Tom says:

    There seems to be livid anger, uncontrolled and violent jealousy, and hatred so fiery that
    mass murder of the Goyim lives at least latently in these devilish souls. They keep incarnating down through the decades. Bolsheviks all, who seek to invert and mock all that the creators of Western civilization have accomplished. And today, they are succeeding.

  12. David Duke had the right idea…

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    , @Wielgus
  13. anarchyst says:

    It’s the JEWS…it’s always the JEWS…

    I came of age during the first so-called “civil-rights” movement and saw for myself the underhanded dealings, the demonization of decent, law-abiding gentile whites, and in general, the deterioration of civil society.

    Almost all of the “civil-rights” workers and demonstration “handlers” were of one persuasion–New York based leftist communist jews. They cared not one wit about true “civil rights”, but were there to create hate and discontent among their black charges (who were too stupid or naive to see that they were being used to suborn and destroy legitimate government and society–a favorite communist tactic).

    These New York-based jewish “carpetbaggers” fomented their hate and discontent, only to become future “civil-rights” attorneys, race-hustlers, and America-hating leftist communists…and the ADL and $PLC being invented.

    Those of us whites who were in the middle of this “civil-rights” revolution had a saying: “Behind every negro, there is a jew”. No truer words were spoken.

    Let’s not forget their infestation of the nation’s education and entertainment systems, in which they spread their jewish supremacist poison.

    The so-called “non-violent civil-rights demonstrations” were anything but non-violent. Robberies, rapes, and other criminal acts were common, but never reported, as even the mainstream media was “in on the game” and conveniently turned off their cameras during the acts of violence. You see, even then,”creating crises” was a part of the agenda.

    The beginning of the end of America was the use of federal troops against white Americans, which, in itself was a violation of “posse comitatus”–the prohibition on the use of federal troops for domestic law enforcement purposes. As most whites were (and still are) law-abiding, they (we) were steamrollered by the use of federal troops to crush honest dissent. We never recovered from those unconstitutional actions. It was all downhill from there…

    The next step may be civil-war in which us whites will have to take back our birthright by force.

  14. Franz says:

    If Joyce had been there he’d have been a Bircher calling for white Americans to be taxed to pay for their sons to pointlessly die in the jungle.

    That’s not a small omission, true.

    Hell, by 1969 the earliest chapters of the VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War) were popping up also. Men just out of combat were joining their non-military mates and telling them to get involved.

    But the Birchers, VVAW, along with many others were protesting as patriots. They had no desire to destroy the nation. Quite the reverse. The felt the war was helping destroy the nation, and one of the sharp conservatives to come out of this era was Kevin Phillips who said it in so many words. “American prosperity,” Phillips observed, “Died in the rice paddies and hills of Vietnam.”

    Isolationists are always reviled and always right.

    We must note that the Antifa parallels break down here. I have yet to hear of a BLM or any other protest attended by Antifa that protests American military involvement anywhere in the world. Activists who are pro-war and anti-American is a new phenomenon.

  15. Altai says:

    The trial of the Chicago 7 was ultimately a demonstration of Jewish tastelessness, chaos, and discord in the midst of American society, involving more than the specific antics of Rubin and Hoffman. The entire episode was a demoralising demonstration of Jewish disruption within the legal system, and the fact that basic Western values and modes of behavior have been viewed by Jews as hostile and oppressive.

    This brings to mind the current Portland protestors and other antifa who seem to have degenerated from their black blok inspiration into just a collection of people with cluster B personality disorders. All the women have BPD and NPD and the men have ASPD. This is born out by the backgrounds of the antifa killed by Kyle Rittenhouse and others, who all had criminal backgrounds that suggested ASPD.

    When I was a very young teenager and began to question the dogma fed to me at school, media and society, one thing I kept noticing were that different nationalities didn’t all act the same, but they did have collective personalities. And Israel at every level just seemed psychopathic, I couldn’t understand how they could act they way they did.

    I wonder if the overall personality profile of Jews, particularly Ashkenazi Jews became somewhat psychopathic. Looking up things like ‘Israeli personality’ during the 2000s when the internet wasn’t quite so censored revealed to me, sheltered in North-West Europe, a society of intense interpersonal conflict and daily corruption and low trust. Historical comments like those of Ben-Gurion bemoaning how when they had constructed a whole society of their own, many Sabra had grown to act towards each other like they did to the greater gentile host societies. Comments from Europeans who had visited in more recent times about the unpleasantness of character they saw. They thought they might build Sweden in the Levant, instead they built something more corrupt than Sicily.

    Maybe the black and white thinking of many Jews resembles that of ‘splitting’ seen in BPD.

    In terms of Jewish tastelessness, public narcissism and psychopathy. The backup dancers seem to have gone to the Sarah Silverman school of dance.

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  16. @Bardon Kaldian

    They need the hate. The reaction to hate is the only thing that keeps Judaism alive and united. United is something the occult worshiping “Jewish” elite need for cover.

  17. @Lot

    I believe it is called opposition research. However I agree the on/off switch and channel button is our friend.

  18. Dumbo says:
    @Father O'Hara

    Abbie Hoffman,of course,wound up cutting his hair, working on the environment and committing suicide.

    Many former young radicals and revolutionaries (and not only Jews) end up committing suicide in their middle or old age. The reason being that al attempts at Revolution on Earth mostly fail (or can never live up to its potential). You become a bitter old man (or woman, in the case of feminists).

    Bruno Bettelheim, a quack and a fraud, also killed himself, as many other radical activists and intellectuals, Jewish or not.

  19. @Richard B

    The reason this isn’t surprising, at least to me, is because, though JSI may have been good at infiltration, subversion, radical ingratitude, insane hatred, persecution mania, betrayal, destruction and death, they’re no good at social management.

    Very good insight. Chosenites avoid the spotlit throne, as throne-sitters are held (somewhat) accountable. Better to be a Goy Whisperer like kush-kush.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  20. Hereyougo says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    That’s an easy one. This has been said here many times but it is worth repeating:

    Antisemitism is good for the Jews.

    Jewish identity and cohesion is absolutely dependant on a culture and upbringing based on constantly being reminded of a mythical narrative of past, grossly exagerated tales of hateful, insufficiently justified persecution (envy, jealousy)

    The more Jewish “conscious” and critical people there is in a society – propagandistically and maliciously labeled as “antisemites”- the more united the Jewish minority will be, the less likely to assimilate into “the enemy” and the more likely individual Jews will be to contribute, financially or with their time and effort in the form of activism into Jewish lobbying orgs such as the ADL, SPLC, WJC, AIPAC or SJWs causes such as antifa, BLM, Jews against Trump, open borders, etc.

    This, and centuries of Talmudic indoctrination are the main reasons behind the commonality of an anti Christian, anti Western ethnic animus and paranoia pattern present in so many Jews, according to authors such as (Jewish) Lawrence Auster. This understandably creates even more opposition and anger, which in turn confirms Jewish paranoia in an eternal vicious cycle.

    Cannot recommend the following, very enlightening and nuanced but long essay he wrote in 1998 highly enough:

    Jews—The Archetypal Multiculturalists

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/024334.html

    But back to the subject, movies are sometimes used as crude propaganda/PR tools. This is one such blatant case, and the messages to take home are:

    To young SJW, BLM morons:

    1. Remember that Jews are on your side. Include us among the “oppressed”. Look at what we did in the 60s

    2. Violence is justified and the only way forward sometimes

    To Jews:

    Remember this is why they hate us: for being smarter, more articulate and for being good guys and for our leadership and initiative in the field of fighting injustice.

    To everyone else:

    Remember we control not only both parties and the executive, but also the film and TV industry, because we are smarter, more articulate. And very obnoxious. Keep on hating us you closeted antisemite.

    • Replies: @Oracle
  21. Rich says:
    @Lot

    No one died “pointlessly ” in the Vietnam War. The men who went there fought in a noble cause to stop the spread of communism, perhaps the most vicious, murderous ideology in mankind’s history. It’s true that LBJ’s advisers did a poor job in executing the war, but Nixon quickly turned that around, defeating the terrorist VC and forcing the NVA into full retreat. His military bombed the Reds into submission, forcing them to come crawling to the negotiating table begging for peace. A fair treaty was signed where the communists recognized S Vietnam and agreed to a ceasefire. If Nixon hadn’t been forced to resign, the War would be remembered as a great American victory.

    Had America not stood against the Reds in Vietnam, they would have been emboldened to continue expanding and invading. We’d have been fighting them in Japan and the Philippines and eventually the Western hemisphere. Those who supported this fight were on the side of the angels, your hippies and degenerates were wrong.

  22. alfred says:
    @Bruno

    There must have been a gain from them to invite them over and over again.

    The rulers of these countries needed people to collect taxes, spy on and keep control of their populations. Simple. That way, the rulers could get on with their lives and ignore the misery of the Plebs.

  23. @Andrew Joyce

    Lot is a Hasbara troll, engage him/her/it at the risk of your own mental health.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @vinteuil
  24. These flicks, for the last 30 years at least all have propagandistic undertones and should be analyzed for that alone not some vain hope for artistic merit as from the David Lean era. Much like articles in the NYT about the dearth of black veterinarians the message is a farrago of lies intended to plant worms in vulnerable snowflake brains not to address an issue that some author might actually believe.

    On the Gentile front as an adjunct to the mind control that was pervasive at the time I highly recommend that anyone so interested look up the late Dave McGowan’s series on Laurel Canyon. It is at the very least thought provoking and his daughter has a site that publishes his work. There you find out that most of the biggest rock stars had interesting parentage including the ones who penned:

    ” So your brother is bound and gagged,
    And they’ve tied him to a chair,
    Won’t you please come to Chicago…”

    As a side note I admit that even I was astounded to find out that of the 10,000 protesters at the Democratic Convention, a full third were either undercover cops or confidential informants. This information only came out about 10 years ago. People must remember that even before the internet “they” were always managing the herd, noticing the outliers and even baiting potential outliers. It’s what they do. In industrial terms it is referred to as preventative maintenance.

    I was always fascinated by Bronstein’s famous quote, ” You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you”. I am finally beginning to understand it.

    Cheers-

  25. Richard B says:
    @Icy Blast

    Truths that will never be faced…at least not in this world…

    They’re being faced now. In fact, you faced them enough to call them truths, and not just you. And you’re right, they are truths.

    Of course, those truths aren’t being faced in numbers that matter, at least not now, and maybe never. And even if those numbers did matter it doesn’t mean those numbers would inspire a revolution against Jewish Supremacy Inc. (JSI) But what does matter is that those truths are faced at all, and they are.

    Besides, an open revolt is too, well, Hollywood, at this point. Not only would it not be wise, it wouldn’t even be necessary. Because 2020 will go down as both the peak and decline of JSI. That’s why they’re pulling all the stops. They’re desperate.

    They never really prepared for this moment. So they don’t know what to do. And what they are doing doesn’t work (enter China). The result? Now that they’re on top their infiltration and subversion has given way to chaos and confusion. To turn one of the 60’s slogans on them The whole world is watching. And what it sees is a Chaotic, Confused, and Corrupt People.

    Speaking of truths, since JSI has been fond of vulgar slogans based on lies, we could offer them an appropriate slogan based on truths. Given the extent of the evil they’ve unleashed on their hosts populations throughout the West it’s becoming more and more obvious that antisemitism = love. Let’s see how they like that slogan. Oh, but we can’t say in public. Only here. So who’s the supremacist?

    You simply cannot sustain a civilization more complex and unpredictable than ever on a steady diet of lies.

  26. Realist says:

    Review: the Trial of the Chicago 7

    Who the hell cares…what is the solution for this country’s immense problems now?

  27. Sorkin is overrated, like all his brethren in the showbusiness… a gentile, first-year, undergrad student at UCLA film school can make better films than the lot of them.

    P. S. The pandar, Tom Hayden, was a nobody and the Jews, whom he tried to emulate, knew it. He was but a servile sycophant in the end at best, living off the slut Jane Fonda fortune.

  28. @Realist

    –> Who the hell cares…what is the solution for this country’s immense problems now?<–

    Spotlight on Chicago 7 offers a starting point

    What would the USA (and the world) have looked like had it not been for Russian Jews and their invasion of the USA?

    Yuri Slezkine said he is “proud” of the achievements of the Jews that he discovered, only in his early adulthood, were his ethnic origin.

    They and the zionism they inflicted upon the world are the framework for much of the rot.

    • Replies: @Realist
  29. @Realist

    Keep voting GOP!

    Justice Amy Coney Barrett can now join Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Roberts in protecting the left flank of the Constitution, allowing re-elected President Trump to deliver on his 2017 inaugural address. This next one is the Most Important Election Ever.

    Something like that, anyway.

    • Replies: @Realist
  30. “Directionless jewish protest” captures the spirit of the 60’s perfectly and the phrase sums up the jewish war on civility that continues to this day.

    The nose can tear down but the nose can’t build anything of value because an infrastructure founded on contrarian hatred has no lasting strength.

    Once they gain control they have no idea what to do with it other than force others to shut up and bow down.

    The jewish revolutionary spirit is subversion for the sake of subversion; the end goal is chaos and misery and death.

    Until whites understand that liberty is truly worth dying for…..there is no hope for the west.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
    , @Anon
  31. fnn says:
    @Lot

    The John Birch Society was opposed to the Vietnam War:

    • Replies: @Lot
  32. @Rich

    Fully agree.

    It is important to point out as well that after Nixon’s resignation and the Democrats gained control of government, the faithless Democrats defunded support to the South Vietnamese and with the North’s ongoing support from their communist partners, the North crushed the South creating a humanitarian crisis associated with the “Boat People”.

    • Agree: Rich
    • Replies: @theMann
    , @Liza
  33. Tom Verso says:
    @Richard B

    Very well written comment; excellent sentence structure. I really like:

    “But, something strange, but not all that surprising is happening. The more powerful JSI gets the more dysfunctional and maladaptive the world they control becomes.”

    However, respectfully, I think you are missing the point about the “dysfunctional and maladaptive the world”. Arguably, that is the objective goal of the Jewish revolution against Western Civilization.

    Specifically, in a “dysfunctional and maladaptive the world” there is no systematic organized opposition to Jewish control. Name one organized group, a group that has some political and economic power, in the West that has or indeed can confront Jewish power.

    Consider, how the British Labor Party was torn asunder by Jewish power when there was even the slightest hint of some modicum push back against Jewish sponsored policies.

    The American political, economic and cultural institutions are destroying themselves; driven by Jewish controlled mass media and Jewish dominated political and economic organizations.

    The great classical scholar and world historian Arnold J Toynbee, documented scores of civilizations in history that inevitably came to be dominated by an exploitative minority. Currently, Western Civilization fits that historic pattern.

    The Jewish minority dominates and is de facto in complete control of all the significant ideological, media, cultural, economic and political characteristics of Western Civilization.

    And, that domination is predicated on the “dysfunctional and maladaptive” non-Jewish people.

    Toynbee also noted that in all civilizations, different nation-states within the greater civilization, at different times, dominated the civilization. In the history of Western Civilization there has been such a rotation of dominate states: e.g Spain, France, England, America.

    Currently, the Jewish Nation is the dominate state within Western Civilization.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  34. Trinity says:
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Dr. David Duke has had the right idea about a lot of things, he was talking about the border way back in the 1970s. This man might have been able to turn things around had American Whites listened to him way back then and elected him to the office of President of the United States in the 1990s when this country still had some hope of turning things around. Kudos to Dr. David Duke, he has been preaching the truth and standing up for his people for a half a century and hasn’t backed down once. I am sure he could have played the game that most of Whites have played and fared far better financially by selling out his people. Thank you, David Duke.

    Back to the greasy Jew, Abbie Hoffman, Pete Townsend of the rock group, The Who, also had the right idea about how to treat anti-White, greasy, filthy sleazeballs like Hoffman. Hoffman ran up on stage during a set by The Who and grabbed the mic and started his inherit need to agitate the crowd about freeing some fellow by the name of John Sinclair from prison. Pete Townsend, taken aback by this obvious show of disrespect by this narcissistic Jew, hit the slime with his guitar and sent the piece of human shit known as Abbie Hoffman tumbling off the stage. Never was a big fan of The Who or Pete Townsend for that matter, but he definitely deserves kudos for this one.

    To the author of this article, the Charlottesville Rally occurred in 2017, not 2016, btw.

    To everyone else, look behind every single destructive movement that has brought our nation down from school integration, to flooding our nation with nonwhites, to pornography, interracial sex, feminism, the Swindle Whites Movement better known as “the civil rights movement, to promoting transgenderism, homosexual marriage and now even pedophilia, attacks against our First and Second Amendments and underneath it all is a Jew leading the way. Ironically the greasy Jew was front and center leading the way saying that pornography and flag burning should be protected under the First Amendment, but of course the Jew now feels that our Firs Amendment doesn’t apply when it comes to criticism of Jews and/or Israel, or any speech that defends the persecution of Whites on our own nations. And of course, while the Jew demanded we protect filthy, and often abuse of women in what now passes as pornography under the First Amendment, the Jew deems that any criticism of Jewish crime or boycotting Israel is obscene and should not be tolerated.

    • Replies: @Lot
  35. fnn says:
    @Andrew Joyce

    As a Hasbara, the truth is a matter of no consequence to him.

  36. @Rich

    Vietnam was never big enough to have a domino effect. The Vietnamese wanted communism. Let them have it. Geostrategically it should have not concerned America. America was pushed into that war specifically to weaken and demoralize America. And it’s a pattern.

    Notice how gentiles find themselves drummed up into silly wars, and during this mobilization stage patriotism is maxed out, and dissent is not permitted or tolerated (lest you be called a shirker, a communist, a terrorist, or un-American).

    However, once the boots are on the ground and the nation is all in, SUDDENLY, for some strange reason the media changes its tune. Suddenly it’s patriotic to question the war, to sympathize with the enemy, to show body bags and crying grown men soldiers. Suddenly war is horrible, and being anti-war is the height of patriotism. But that doesn’t mean the war is gonna end. Not at all. It gets dragged out in this state of paralysis and demoralization in order to prolong and maximize the damage. There is no exit strategy, there will be no Christmas home coming. And this is the point.

    The jew Noam Chomsky once said it himself that the greatest victory of the Vietnam-era anti-war movement was that it weakened the US.

    • Replies: @Rich
  37. fnn says:

    To be fair, the wild antics at the Chicago 7 Trial bore some resemblance to what took place at the 1944 Mass Sedition Trial of 30 right-wing anti-interventionists: https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1525/sp.2007.54.2.170?seq=1

    With 30 defendants, nearly as many defense attorneys, and an ineffectual presiding judge, the trial became alternatively chaotic and plodding. The charges were vague and much of the evidence insubstantial in demonstrating conspiracy or sedition. Attorneys and defendants attempted to mock the trial with some giving the Nazi salute, wearing signs such as “I am a spy” or grotesque false faces (Time 1944:15). After half a dozen attorneys had been cited for contempt, the attorneys started wearing buttons reading ECC (Eicher Contempt Club). The Chicago Tribune described the scene in the courtroom as “indescribable confusion, bordering on the riotous” (Henning 1944c). Attorney General Biddle referred to the trial as a “farce” and as “a shockingly dreary and degrading experience,” adding that “nothing like the trial ever happened in an American court of law” (Biddle 1962:241–42). Biddle’s wife felt that “it was like a great schoolroom with unruly children pounding on their desks, shouting imprecations, jumping up and down, the teacher’s efforts to quiet them drowned in the hubbub”

    • Replies: @CollDoll
  38. @Father O'Hara

    What with the detailed analysis of this Jew circus as if it were some Shakespearean play, perhaps the author would analyse whether Jerry’s small pecker in some way caused global warming and hence Abbie permanently dropping out of the white man’s world.

  39. saggy says: • Website
    @Andrew Joyce

    A lot of people in the 60s were “right” about the war without acting like disgusting, entitled trash. I’d have opposed the war, and these degenerates, with equal vigor.

    What you are missing is that these people, mostly Jews, were the leaders of the anti-war movement. Who’s to say, but perhaps without them there would have been no anti-war movement. I was at Berkeley at the time, part of the anti-war movement …

    • Replies: @Andrew Joyce
  40. TGD says:
    @Rich

    No one died “pointlessly ” in the Vietnam War. The men who went there fought in a noble cause to stop the spread of communism…

    Most of those who fought and died in ‘Nam were 18 to 20 year old “working class” draftees who didn’t want to go there. They were turned into merciless killers by their drill sergeants as illustrated by “gunnery sergeant” Hartman (played by R. Lee Ermey) in Stanley Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket.

    It’s true that LBJ’s advisers did a poor job in executing the war…

    That’s an understatement. Aside from constant and wide scale indiscriminate area bombing (operation “Rolling Thunder”), the main battle tactic was “search and destroy.” This is where platoons were sent into an area where the brass knew that they would come under enemy fire. Then they would count the bodies. If they counted more “gook” bodies than American bodies, the USA was winning the war.

    This “limited war” concept was championed by LBJ who got a cut of the arms procurement and base construction contracts. The longer the war lasted, the richer he got.

    • Replies: @Rich
  41. @Altai

    When I was a very young teenager and began to question the dogma fed to me at school, media and society, one thing I kept noticing were that different nationalities didn’t all act the same, but they did have collective personalities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_anthropology

  42. Realist says:
    @Insouciant

    They and the zionism they inflicted upon the world are the framework for much of the rot.

    This has been going on for 150 years. The point is what is going to be done about it…so far nothing for 150 years?

  43. Realist says:
    @Greta Handel

    Keep voting GOP!

    Trump has done more for Israel than for the US

    Justice Amy Coney Barrett can now join Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Roberts in protecting the left flank of the Constitution, allowing re-elected President Trump to deliver on his 2017 inaugural address.

    Trump has had three and three fourths years to deliver…with little results.

    This next one is the Most Important Election Ever.

    Right! Seems like I have heard that before.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  44. fnn says:

    A book published by the John Birch Society in 1965 said it was a mistake for the US to come in in 1954 and replace the existing organic elites via a non-Marxist social democratic managerial revolution under the Diem family. The right-wing author was able to predict the coming disaster in 1965:

    • Thanks: Agent76
  45. Trinity says:

    People who forewarned America of the Jew and other things that have brought us to where we are today, and America didn’t listen:

    Henry Ford
    Father Coughlin
    Joseph McCarthy
    Norman Lincoln Rockwell
    Dr. William Pierce
    Dr. David Duke

    I am sure there have been a whole list of others, but these names come to mind. Even Nixon who is mentioned in this article was WELL AWARE of the Jewish problem, and so was his pal, the reverend Billy Graham, look no further than the taped conversation between Nixon and Graham. Nixon was a curious one, he knew of Jewish treachery and yet he surrounded himself with people like the uber Jewish Supremacist, Henry Kissinger.

    Kind of amusing how people like those mentioned above have been demonized by “our” Jewish media, books published by Jewish publishing companies who wouldn’t dare publish any book that didn’t tell us how special Jews are, Jewish newspapers, etc. When you control the narrative, you control who are the good guys and who are the wackos, the conspiracy nut jobs, the racists, the Nazis who want to kill 6 million Jews, the “White Supremacists,” the evil Palestinians, blah, blah, blah, blah…. Also sad that all those aforementioned names above HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO HAVE BEEN RIGHT ALL ALONG. The people labeled as knuckle dragging neanderthals were hip to the JQ long before anyone posting on this blog, and were proven to be much smarter than all those hipsters with their supposedly high IQs. Speaking of IQs, how many people that espouse their IQ scores have ever even actually had their IQ tested, and who is to say that the test was valid, and isn’t IQ relative anyway. Take a high IQ lame out of some Ivy League school and ask him to changer your oil, or go in survive in the African bush for a week. See if that person’s high IQ is really relevant at all.

  46. Lot says:
    @fnn

    JBS in 1967:

    “In this writer’s opinion, we should never have become involved in Vietnam at all. But, regardless of how we got there, or who put us there, we are too deeply involved today to have any honorable way out except through victory. It should be our determination not to escalate this war, nor to prolong it, nor to muddle through it, but to win it. A great American once said: “In war, there is no substitute for victory!” This is certainly one time and place in the history of our nation when we must not even consider any substitute. Victory, Then Peace! must be our slogan and our goal.”

  47. @saggy

    Oh, I didn’t miss anything I can assure you. We can argue “what if” counterfactuals all day but they don’t constitute an argument. I care less about the fact Jews opposed the war than the reasons why. Funny how American Jewish pacifism seems to disappear every time Zionism gets an itchy trigger finger. Jews led the more insidious elements of the New Left, of which the anti-war aspect was more or less consequential.

  48. anarchyst says:

    Your statement: /”This “limited war” concept was championed by LBJ who got a cut of the arms procurement and base construction contracts. The longer the war lasted, the richer he got.”/

    …is absolutely correct.

    RMK-BRJ was a civil engineering and construction consortium which handled many large civil engineering and building projects in Vietnam.

    RMK was a contraction of Robertson Morrison-Knudsen, Morrison Knudsen being the engineering firm and politician senator Absalom Robertson (televangelist Pat Robertson’s daddy) taking “kickbacks” as a “war profiteer”.

    The other half, BRJ was a contraction of Brown and Root Johnson, Brown and Root being the engineering firm and Johnson being non other than President Lyndon Baines Johnson, another “war profiteer”.

    We have a saying, “war is big business and business is good”.

  49. Rich says:
    @SparkNflash

    By standing up to the Reds in Vietnam, by making them pay for every inch of ground they craved, the US drove their costs too high, made them pay too much in blood and treasure, to keep up their expansion. Their plan was one country at a time, trying to create a momentum that couldn’t be stopped, the sacrifices those brave men made over there in those miserable swamps, were well worth preventing the bloodthirsty communist expansion. They fought for a righteous cause.

    • Disagree: Chris Mallory, dimples
    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  50. Adolf Hitler had many great ideas regarding these worthless, bloodsucking vampires that only seek to infiltrate a society, bleed it dry and destroy it from within. The Constitution and Mein Kampf should be required reading in these public schools and universities instead of the Genocidal, corrupt propaganda of the criminal vampire Karl Marx.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Rufus Clyde
  51. theMann says:
    @Steve in Greensboro

    At the moment when the North Vietnamese crushed the South, South Vientnam had twice to three times as many aircraft, tanks, artillery, troops in uniform, and vastly better supply, roads, electronics , and so forth.

    They were blown out in a few weeks.

    Vietnam was the wrong war, in the wrong place, against the wrong enemy, and fought with truly beastial means, on behalf of a people who never deserved our aid.

    Period.

    • Disagree: Rich
  52. Rich says:
    @TGD

    The average age of American soldiers in Vietnam was 22. 2/3 were volunteers. The mistakes of Rolling Thunder, and there was a lot of success too, were corrected by Nixon with the very successful Operation Linebacker.

    Movies aside, it’s the job of a drill sergeant to turn his men into good soldiers. Your attempt at ridicule is actually a complement to their skills.

    Search and destroy missions were a very effective tactic and always resulted in more dead enemies. The VC were irrelevant as a fighting force by 1970 thanks to these missions.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  53. nsa says:
    @Rich

    Richie Baby, Still fighting the big one from high atop your barstool perch in the VFW lounge while splashing down $2 doubles with your fellow heroic geriatric cronies……in between complaining about your prostate woes?

    • LOL: Rich
  54. Hegar says:

    The propaganda is immense at Netflix. Leaving out parts likes these is lying.

    Notably stripped from the film is any reference to the real-life exchanges between Abbie Hoffman and Julius Hoffman that involved Jewishness. In particular, Abbie Hoffman accused the judge of betraying Jewish interests, calling out in Yiddish during the trial that Julius Hoffman was a ““Shande fur de Goyim [Disgrace for the Gentiles]” a “Front man for the WASP elite,” and a “disgrace to the Jews, you could have served Hitler better.” During one episode, Hoffman and Rubin entered the courtroom in judges robes. This is repeated in the film with very one notable omission — in reality the robes had yellow stars on them.

    Seale finds out during the trial that Hampton has been killed during a police raid. This prompts Seale to become more assertive in pushing for his right to defend himself. Judge Hoffman responds by having Seale taken to another room, beaten, and returned gagged and shackled. The sequence is milked in the film for propaganda value, omitting the fact that, in reality, Seale had violently lunged at prosecutor Schultz and that it was the plan of the defendants to have Seale “bound and gagged so they could demonstrate to the world that the federal courts were racist.” The scene ends with Hoffman, losing control of the courtroom, taking Schultz’s suggestion of declaring Seale’s case a mistrial.

  55. Trinity says:
    @Father O'Hara

    So in other words, these clowns fit the stereotype of the average Jew. Oops, forgot about porn star and accused rapist, Ron Jeremy, whose claim to fame is having a large penis and quite possibly being the ugliest man in porn. Well, I guess there are exceptions, but Jeremy’s large penis aside, he sure measured up ( pun unintended ) to another Jewish stereotype.

  56. It was no sacrifice at all to not watch this Netflix offering. I managed to not watch quite a few times and anticipate there will be quite a few times more. And after that it will be gone. Forgotten by all.

  57. Quotes from a man that had a good insight on these bloodthirsty vampires

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/excerpts-from-mein-kampf

    In the organized mass of Marxism he has found the weapon which lets him dispense with democracy and in its stead allows him to subjugate and govern the peoples with a dictatorial and brutal fist.

    In economics he undermines the states until the social enterprises which have become unprofitable are taken from the state and subjected to his financial control.

    In the political field he refuses the state the means for its self-preservation, destroys the foundations of all national self-maintenance and defense, destroys faith in the leadership, scoffs at its history and past, and drags everything that is truly great into the gutter.

    Culturally, he contaminates art, literature, the theater, makes a mockery of natural feeling, overthrows all concepts of beauty and sublimity, of the noble and the good, and instead drags men down into the sphere of his own base nature.

    Religion is ridiculed, ethics and morality represented as outmoded, until the last props of a nation in its struggle for existence in this world have fallen.

    Now begins the great last revolution. In gaining political power the Jew casts off the few cloaks that he still wears. The democratic people’s Jew becomes the blood-Jew and tyrant over peoples. In a few years he tries to exterminate the national intelligentsia and by robbing the peoples of their natural intellectual leadership makes them ripe for the slave’s lot of permanent subjugation.

    The most frightful example of this kind is offered by Russia, where he killed or starved about thirty million people with positively fanatical savagery, in part amid inhuman tortures, in order to give a gang of Jewish journalists and stock exchange bandits domination over a great people.

    The end is not only the end of the freedom of the peoples oppressed by the Jew, but also the end of this parasite upon the nations. After the death of his victim, the vampire sooner or later dies too.

  58. Trinity says:
    @libertyordeath

    Hitler had the Jewish psyche down pat for sure, but alas like the people who came after him, the vast MAJORITY of know-it-all “educated” people and white traitor trash knew better than to believe racists, anti-Semites, so-called Nazis and their neo-Nazi cousins, or the worst of the worst, those dreaded “White Supremacists” who we have heard are rioting, looting and tearing down statues in places like Portland, Seattle, District Of Criminals and Pedophiles, and other large urban areas. I only see a bunch of (((Antifa/BLM))) miscreants but (((our media))) says that “White Supremacist” gangs like the multiracial, “Proud Boys” need to be told to “stand down.” Of course this is the same (((media))) that told us that James Fields committed first degree murder even though Fields obviously is not guilty of first degree murder or even second degree murder, manslaughter at best, and a definite case of self defense if any fair minded person reviews the tape and sees that Antifa/BLM had blocked the road and were attacking Fields’ vehicle with lead pipes, maybe bats, ( have to review the footage again) and one was claimed to have an assault rifle. Now given what has transpired since Charlottesville, what do you think that large mob would have done to Fields had they pulled him from his vehicle?

  59. Bugg says:

    SBC once portrays a miserable Jew in real life as a hero. Reality is far different. Hoffman was an awful human being who eventually committed suicide. In the most 60s thing of his life, he was physically kicked off the stage at Woodstock by The Who. Hoffman was anything close to a hero.

  60. Bookish1 says:
    @Robert Dolan

    What you are describing is a parasite.

  61. Karl Marx Was a Horrific Racist. Here Are the Quotes to Prove It

    This “hero” of the neo-Bolshevik Terrorist such as BLM and ANTIFA actually HATED blacks and even some of his own Jewish bretheren.

    https://stoppingsocialism.com/2020/06/karl-marx-racism-quotes/

    “What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. … Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man—and turns them into commodities. … The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange. … The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.” Karl Marx, “On the Jewish Question,” 1844

    Tremaux “proved that the common Negro type is the degenerate form of a much higher one … a very significant advance over Darwin.” Karl Marx, letter to Friedrich Engels, August 7, 1866

  62. @Patriot

    Poor E. European Jews fled their horrible European existance for refuage in America, where they found a “system” of incredible freedom and wealth and opportunity. Jews prospered here like no other people, yet for the last 100 years they’ve done nothing but try to destroy America.

    I agree with your assessment, but in some sense I feel bad about the fact that Jews feel so alienated and resentful in America. I don’t want them to have to put on a fake happy face if that’s how they really feel. I think it’s an argument for separation.

    Yes, it’s a rich country and they’ve been successful, but material prosperity and careers are not everything. Ethnicity and culture matter, being comfortable among your own people, and having collective self-determination.

    As a white person, I don’t think white people going along with the idea that we’re fascist and evil and agreeing to having everything about our culture and even existence destroyed is the solution either.

    This is the basic argument of white nationalists: we’ll all be happier in our own countries.

    It’s the same with blacks. Yes, they enjoy a higher standard of living here than they would in Africa. But because of genetic differences, they will inevitably end up clustered at the bottom of society and it’s humiliating.

    So I support Jewish Nationalism (i.e. Zionism), I just don’t think Israel is the right location. I don’t think Israel can survive without Western support. If and when the U.S. breaks up along racial and ethnic lines, Jews should get their own slice of territory.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Poco
    , @Thomasina
    , @AaronB
  63. Tom Hayden? Really interesting figure.

    In 2007, Hayden made news for his speech at the wedding of his son Troy, where, as Hilton Als wrote in The New Yorker, he “said that he was especially happy about his son’s union with actress Simone Bent, who is black, because, among other things, it was ‘another step in a long-term goal of mine: the peaceful, non-violent disappearance of the white race.’

    • Replies: @Andrew Joyce
  64. @Altai

    The failure of Israel to become “the Sweden of the Levant” because of the personalities of its people is worth investigating further.

    The state of Israel is less than 80 years old, but that’s long enough to take off the schmaltzy blinders and see that hasn’t become a Leon Uris-inspired paradise of propriety and taste.

    When I think of Israelis, I think of the scam artists, pimps, rapists, drug dealers and low-lifes they export to do crimes in Western countries. Their immoral arms dealing, human trafficking, and financial frauds. There are many examples of Israelis at home and abroad who discredit the Israeli brand: the shady locksmiths and fly-by-night moving companies in America, the phone scam and porn producers, the property speculating slumlords with dual citizenships.

    You can’t build a European-style country with a critical mass of people who have the values of street hoodlums, no matter how much you LARP as Europeans.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
  65. @Andrew Joyce

    Mr. Joyce, on a slightly different note, how could you, as well as the movie, talk of Tom Hayden’s post-trial political career without mentioning his marriage to Jane Fonda? I didn’t know, until just now researching it, that Hayden died in 2016 due to complications from a stroke.

    • Replies: @Andrew Joyce
  66. anon[148] • Disclaimer says:

    The rapists of civilized society are all connected

  67. Thomasina says:
    @Realist

    “Trump has done more for Israel than for the US.”

    Who hasn’t? This has been a well-established practice, my friend; Trump didn’t start it.

    Merrick Garland (who would have been four out of nine justices) is NOT sitting on the Supreme Court.

    “Trump has had three and three fourths years to deliver…with little results.”

    Trump has been walking on a bed of nails.

    He’s had the full force of the media, academia, the judicial system, the FBI, CIA, the State Department, the military, Big Tech, Big Ag, multinational corporations, the Chambers of Commerce, the Democrats AND most Republicans coming down on his head for all of those three and three-fourths years.

    He barely exposed the Biden corruption in Ukraine, and look how the elite came down on him! They impeached him (with many Republicans wishing they could have voted for his impeachment too).

    Add in Antifa, BLM, Covid, the phony Mueller Commission and…..well, pretty soon we’re talking some serious chaos. Try governing under those conditions.

    As Paul Craig Roberts said when Trump was inaugurated, “He doesn’t know Washington; he’s not a politician. He won’t know who to appoint.” That has been the case.

    But those three and three-fourths years have no doubt provided him an education. He knows who the foxes are now.

    So you can vote for Biden (who will bend over backwards for Israel too) or you can vote for Trump and hope for the best. He will have free rein if he’s reelected. If he pushes too hard, he will be assassinated.

    All of it (from the Russian collusion nonsense right up to Antifa) has been the globalist elite trying to get rid of the nationalist.

    Trump got rid of the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership), which would have made the globalists furious. He stopped the diversity indoctrination camps for government workers/contractors. Watch him go after Big Tech next time (who need to be split up).

    Above all, Trump has not started any wars, but with Biden you are sure to get them.

    NO president has ever had to put up with what Trump has had to deal with. I’m actually surprised he’s still standing!

  68. @Bardon Kaldian

    Absolutely remarkable. Wasn’t aware of this, although Hayden was clearly a POS based on his political life generally. He’d make for a useful biographical study. The man clearly loved Jews.

  69. Trinity says:
    @Mike Thomas

    Jews and Blacks DO NOT DESERVE ANY TERRITORY AND AMERICA DOESN’T NEED TO BREAK UP. WHITES BUILT AMERICA, NOT JEWS, NOT BLACKS, NOT MEXICANS, NOT ORIENTALS, WHITES BUILT AMERICA, COMPRENDE?

    The ONLY people Whites need to consider giving a piece of the pie to is the Native American, everyone else has done absolutely NOTHING IN SO FAR AS BUILDING THIS NATION. AND WHAT LITTLE THE JEW OR BLACK MIGHT HAVE CONTRIBUTED, THEY HAVE NEGATED WITH ALL THE DESTRUCTION AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THEY HAVE ENGAGED IN FOR AS LONG AS THEY HAVE BEEN HERE.

    Jews and Blacks that whine and cry about anti-Semitism and racism and any other Jew manufactured ism, can get their Jew and/or Black ass out of here on the next flight, or ship, or whatever. Good lawd, can you imagine how much this nation would improve overnight if the two biggest whiny, parasitic, racist groups in America would leave? Hell, even the Mexicans, Orientals and others would not be much of a problem, and I truly believe with a smattering of Hispanics and Orientals, etc., America would be just fine, keep the White population at 80% and above sans whiny Jews and Blacks and America would be unrecognizable from what it is today, but in a good way.

    • Agree: Poco, DaveE
  70. @follyofwar

    Fair comment. Unfortunately every article has to leave something unsaid. Generally speaking, Hayden alone is worthy of a detailed biographical essay, a case made even stronger by the above quote provided by Bardon Kaldion. When and where did Hayden pick up these ideas? I think we can all guess, but the precise details would make very interesting reading. As for Fonda, her psychology/milieu would also make for an interesting study. As it stands, the movie offers no insight at all into these people beyond offering them as superficial heroes to a new generation of rioters

    • Replies: @Richard B
  71. @Thomasina

    They could prosecute and harass him or his family members when he is out of office too. I’m sure he’ll have that to worry about anyway

  72. “This “something else” isn’t explored in any significant way because the film proceeds from the understanding that the violence and unrest in Chicago was purely the result of police brutality and bad local government”

    I was in Lincoln Park the Sunday before the Democratic Convention in ’68. I was there as an observer as I hitch hiked there with a local northwest side youth. We were in our late teens and wanted to see what all the hub bub was all about. Plus it was rumored that there would be a lot of hot hippie chicks without bras and skimpy clothing. When we got to Lincoln Park between North and Armitage streets there were already quite a lot of protesters hanging around. Also present were so called motorcycle gang people with their leather clothing. There was singing and dancing and speech making all around.
    Suddenly as I recall two lines had formed with the police on one side and the protesters on the other side. I saw what looked like baggies filled with I know not what being tossed into the police line. Then all hell broke loose and the police started bashing skulls. If someone tossed shit or piss on me I would fight too. I just stood there observing it all with amusement. After all it was much more exciting than watching on TV.
    I guess it was a big gang fight and the hippies weren’t too good at street fighting. Me, I wasn’t interested in that gang fight because I wasn’t on either side. I was involved with fights in my own neighborhood that had nothing to do with hippies or police.

    • Replies: @Andrew Joyce
  73. Trinity says:

    I like how the Jews always push the LIE that the Jews are for the underdog. bwah hahaha. NO, the Jew is for the Jew, who is more often than not, the oppressor and in no way, shape or form, the underdog. Blacks were COMPLETELY USED in the Swindle Whites Movement by Jews not to improve the Black man’s lot in life, but for the Jew to usurp power from Whites in America and ironically take away the “civil rights” of the Founding Stock of America. “Civil Rights Movement,” my ass.

  74. @Father O'Hara

    I recall watching an interview of the Chicago Seven which took place in the late 60s. Hoffman came off as clownish, but Rubin was by far the biggest douchebag of the whole group.

  75. @Rich

    Utter rubbish. The US prosecution of the war in Vietnam was a disgrace, and the US soldiers who died in the war were saps and dupes. I don’t think that an ideology can be murderous nor vicious, those being qualities restricted to the non-abstract. But certainly there is scant evidence to support your contention if we attribute such traits to people who were nominally adherents of that ideology. Your claim to the moral superiority of anti-communist war doesn’t look too different from the current Globalist R2P garbage. Your take on Operation Linebacker II and the Paris Accords bears little relevance to anything that actually occurred in this plane of existence. I always wonder why you reactionary John Birch types feared that Communism would spread, given it’s alleged inefficiencies and anti-human qualities. I mean, nobody in their right mind would be a communist, and those lunatics who embraced the ideology couldn’t organize a two-house milk route. How would they ever have moved into Japan, let alone the Western Hemisphere?
    By all means, if the spirit moves you, cite your sources for your claim about the supremely murderous and viscious nature of communists in comparison to proponents of other ideologies. Best of luck.

    • Disagree: Rich
    • Replies: @fnn
  76. @Thomasina

    I so agree, Thomasina! I often disagree with Mr. Trump, but, in the face of overwhelming establishment opposition and lies, he has shown great courage. I remember reading PCR’s comment back then. Sadly he was proven right. Even Trump’s midterm replacements, AG Barr and SecDef Esper, were no better. Both wound up stabbing him in the back. “Et to, Brute!”

    Now there’s talk that, if Trump loses, he will be prosecuted forthwith. And, unlike the more genteel republicans, the vicious democrat street fighters will do it. If the republicans wind up losing the Senate too, their party will be dead, the rule of law may not survive, and they’ll have no one to blame but themselves.

  77. @Rich

    The US murdered a whole bunch of peasants in Vietnam, completely destabilized the region, and left a legacy of millions of unexploded bombs and a countryside poisoned with Agent Orange. Truly, a proud achievement for America. And they lost. Among other reasons the war was prosecuted was to prevent the Chinese diaspora in SE Asia from forming economic ties to the PRC, the maintenance of Vietnam as a source of cheap food for the US colony in Japan, and to serve as a good example of what would befall any country that withstood the US drive for global hegemony. Pretty much pure evil.

    • Replies: @Rich
  78. @libertyordeath

    Mein Kampf is valuable as a historical document, kind of like Joseph Smith’s translations of the Bible, only less coherent than Smith’s work. One can get a good idea of what an annoying c*#t Hitler must have been in the brief periods he spent actually working. A reject of petit bourgeois society who worshipped bourgeois culture. Insipid and vapid are the two adjectives that come to mind. My Dad has kept a copy around the house for sixty years, and occasionally we share a laugh over the sheer crappiness of it.

    • Troll: Trinity, Genrick Yagoda
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Genrick Yagoda
  79. @europeasant

    Thanks for this first-hand insight.

  80. Poco says:
    @Mike Thomas

    No, no, no. You want them far far away from you. If they’re close they will have to tikkun olam you. They can’t help themselves. They don’t want you as one of them but they DO want to “improve” you.

  81. bjondo says:

    Add Sorkin to the Chicago 7.
    Garbage in garbage out.

    Daley and Chicago police had right approach to rioters.
    Dems who understood the purpose of a club.

    5ds

  82. Thomasina says:
    @Realist

    “Who the hell cares?” Well, the people who cobbled together the movie seemed to care and were trying to make a point.

    People are just starting to wake up to the idea that there’s been an enemy in the house. Articles like this provide the history.

    You must always look for the ROOT of a problem before you can even begin to think about change, otherwise the change will be chaotic and misdirected.

    Andrew Joyce and others are pointing at the root, and it is massive, with its tentacles securely wrapped around the throat of the U.S.

    So who the hell cares? Anybody who wants to breathe.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  83. Miro23 says:

    The same antagonisms can be seen today in the quintessentially Jewish vulgarity of comedians like Sarah Silverman, in the riots of Antifa, and in the increasing degeneracy of our cultural and political life. The spirit of the trial lives on in the ceaseless absolving of Antifa rioters of any legal responsibility for their violence and vandalism.

    What Makes the Arrogant Person So Arrogant?
    The power motives and narcissism behind the truly arrogant people in your life.

    Arrogance is a trait that society often values and rewards, particularly in arenas such as politics and business. We often think of successful people as those who are able to push themselves out in front of others to win any competition. Whether it’s getting more votes, more customers, or more points on the basketball court, the arrogant show little care or concern for whom they leave behind in the dust…

    The 10 power words included affluence, authority, dominance, fortune, money, power, prestige, reputation, status, and wealth. The 10 affiliation-related words were affiliation, attachment, belonging, closeness, collaboration, community, cooperation, family, harmony, and relationships.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201705/what-makes-the-arrogant-person-so-arrogant

    Zionized USA looks like the ultimate expression of Power Culture.

  84. vinteuil says:
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    Calling Lot a “Hasbara troll” just makes you look ridiculous.

    That said, his comment was a bit error-prone.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  85. Thomasina says:
    @Mike Thomas

    “If and when the U.S. breaks up along racial and ethnic lines, Jews should get their own slice of territory.”

    That’s exactly what they’re angling for. Jews want their own homeland here. I’ve been thinking that for some time now, just from watching the gears moving. That is their intent.

    No, they fought for and were given Israel. They can go there. They should never have been allowed in the U.S. to begin with.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  86. @alfred

    Good Cop – Aristocrat
    Imports
    Bad Cop – Juice
    To run interference on peasants

    Bad Cop is smarter than upper class twits & subverts country.

    Look at how Jeffrey Epstein & Manoo Nooshoo played those gormless, retarded goofballs Andrew & Harry so easily.

  87. Richard B says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Very good insight. Chosenites avoid the spotlit throne, as throne-sitters are held (somewhat) accountable. Better to be a Goy Whisperer like kush-kush.

    Haha! “Goy Whisperer.” Good one!

    • Thanks: Sick of Orcs
  88. @Beavertales

    There’s supposedly an Israeli joke about the parents trying the “back in our day” tactic of shaming lazy kids, saying “When your grandfather came to this land, he spent his life digging ditches” and the kid says “I didn’t know Grandpa was an Arab!”

    It’s use to illustrate various points, such as the Jewish disdain for manual labor, use of Palestinians as low wage labor, etc. but in the context of your comment, it illustrates a society where one normally engages in some kind of sleazy, quasi-or-entirely illegal scam, rather than actual work.

  89. @Lot

    Unmentioned: the protests were primarily about the Vietnam War.

    Unmentioned: All the ‘anti-War Jews’ like Hoffman, Rubin, et al were totally silent about Israel’s ‘preemptive’ 1967 attack on neighboring Arabs states and America’s unconditional support for these unlawful actions to this very day. The glorious Sixties passed by Israeli expansionism and Israeli supremacism without so much as a whimper.

    Various ‘idealistic, anti-war Jews’ also said (and continue to say) NOTHING about Israel’s lethal assault on the USS Liberty during the Six Day War or America’s rescue of Israel in the 1973 War (engineered by Jewish Sec. of State, Henry Kissinger) which caused the subsequent OPEC oil embargos which further crashed US interests.

    When push comes to shove, Jews of all political persuasions come to the rescue of Israel. America be damned.

    • Agree: MrVoid
    • Replies: @Lot
  90. Realist says:
    @Thomasina

    Who hasn’t? This has been a well-established practice, my friend; Trump didn’t start it.

    Trump hasn’t ended it either…he increases it.

    He’s had the full force of the media, academia, the judicial system, the FBI, CIA, the State Department, the military, Big Tech, Big Ag, multinational corporations, the Chambers of Commerce, the Democrats AND most Republicans coming down on his head for all of those three and three-fourths years.

    He barely exposed the Biden corruption in Ukraine, and look how the elite came down on him! They impeached him (with many Republicans wishing they could have voted for his impeachment too).

    You are making excuses for Trump. Trump is feckless and ineffective.

    So you can vote for Biden (who will bend over backwards for Israel too) or you can vote for Trump and hope for the best.

    Great plan…that’s the one this country has been using for decades…to no avail. The smart thing would be to understand that voting for either is an act of futility. The Deep State is in control and voting changes nothing.

    If he pushes too hard, he will be assassinated.

    For Christ sake boy…you are agreeing with me….the Deep State rules.

    Above all, Trump has not started any wars, but with Biden you are sure to get them.

    He hasn’t ended any wars either…as he promised.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  91. AaronB says:
    @Mike Thomas

    Thats OK, dont worry about whether Israel can survive or not. We’ll deal with that.

    Thanks for supporting a Jewish national home. But it has to be in Israel. Just stay out of it, and we’ll deal with the Arabs ourselves.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
  92. Anon[712] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If Jews didn’t have people hating them (anti-semitism) their whole reason for existence would disappear and they as a group would just wither and die. When they lived in the ghettos in Europe under self isolation, their leaders could say that the goyem were wanting to force them to become Christians which was enough to keep them together. In the modern United States, Jews have never been persecuted and the majority have become more secular than even the mainstream population. They really don’t have much holding them together than the vague concept of being Jewish and their allegiance to this remote secular state called Israel. The majority of Jews are marrying out and the whole concept of being Jewish is quickly disappearing. Other than a few fanatical religious groups, the whole concept of Jewishness is getting harder and harder to keep going and will eventually disappear.

  93. Miro23 says:
    @Thomasina

    “If and when the U.S. breaks up along racial and ethnic lines, Jews should get their own slice of territory.”

    That’s exactly what they’re angling for. Jews want their own homeland here. I’ve been thinking that for some time now, just from watching the gears moving. That is their intent.

    Why have a slice of territory when they’re on track to own the whole thing?

    Owning the USA is a much more attractive prospect than owning Israel.

    Israel is a small infertile patch of desert surrounded by enemies and full of aggressive Jews. The USA is a comparative paradise – and it’s full of compliant goy slaves. The last place most US Jews would want to live is Israel. Also US Jews are not popular there.

  94. anon[712] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    “My Dad has kept a copy around the house for sixty years, and occasionally we share a laugh over the sheer crappiness of it.”

    Perhaps it’s a bit too intellectual for you and your father to understand. I’d advise you to read things more to your intellectual age level, like Dr. Suess.

    • LOL: Trinity
    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  95. Agent76 says:

    Oct 23, 2020 Top 10 Things The Trial of the Chicago 7 Got Factually Right and Wrong

    For this list, we’re looking at which plot points in the historical legal drama were true to real life, and which were fiction.

  96. Thomasina says:
    @Realist

    I’ve already stated that the Deep State rules. I know that. But there is going to be an election. Pick your poison.

    With Biden you are 100% assured the Deep States continues.

    With Trump? That’s uncertain.

    I’ll take the latter.

    • Agree: Agent76, europeasant
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @CollDoll
  97. Sean says:

    Seale’s attorney is not present due to illness, but Seale is repeatedly told by Judge Hoffman that he can’t represent himself. The constant silencing of Seale, historically accurate, along with some broader subtle commentary on police violence against Blacks, is the only clearly sustained narrative of the film, and was the only aspect I found remotely interesting.

    The judge will strongly advise against it, but there is a constitutional right to represent oneself. However, anyone who does so is legally deemed to know the law as well as a licensed attorney. So if (when) you make a mistake in procedure or about which issue to pursue, being a complete novice while representing yourself won’t be an acceptable excuse.

  98. Jerry Rubin, given no backstory in Sorkin’s film, had “solidly Jewish roots” and after receiving his baccalaureate “he attended Hebrew University and later returned to Israel to spend a year there with his brother.”[1] His ‘Youth International Party,’ or Yippies, was co-founded with fellow Jewish radicals Abbie Hoffman and Paul Krassner. He married a Jewish woman, Mimi Leonard. Rubin conceived of himself as being at war with the White race. By his own admission, Rubin stated that in forming the ‘Yippie’ movement he had “dropped out of the white race and the Amerikan [sic] nation.”

    “Assertion” would perhaps be more apropos than “admission” here in describing Rubin’s adoption of “tactical Whiteness.” He never saw himself as sharing a common identitiy with the indigenous peoples of Europe and their diaspora — so how could he “drop” an identity that he never held?

    As I wrote at the outset, I’ve always regarded the ultimately chaotic and clownish trial of the Chicago 7 as nothing more than a piece of degenerate Jewish political performance art, demoralising to the American justice system and energising to a new generation of Judeo-Anarchist activists. There was ultimately no meaning to the trial, just as there is no meaning to the film, other than directionless Jewish protest.

    Jerry Rubin expressed much the same sentiment in his book We Are Everywhere, where he described the trial as a “Jewish morality play.”

    (From a jewish perspective, of course, any attempt to deconstruct/ mock/ subvert the institutions of a non-jewish society is viewed as “moral”)

    Rubin also admitted (in the same book) that “yippies are Jewish hippies.”

    Notably stripped from the film is any reference to the real-life exchanges between Abbie Hoffman and Julius Hoffman that involved Jewishness. In particular, Abbie Hoffman accused the judge of betraying Jewish interests, calling out in Yiddish during the trial that Julius Hoffman was a ““Shande fur de Goyim [Disgrace for the Gentiles]” a “Front man for the WASP elite,” and a “disgrace to the Jews, you could have served Hitler better.”

    John Murray Cuddihy notes the overtly ethnic subplot of the trial, particularly the infighting between defendant Abbie Hoffman and Judge Julius Hoffman, the former representing the children of the Eastern European immigrant generation that tended toward political radicalism, and the latter representing the older, more assimilated German-Jewish establishment.

    AKA Yidn vs. Yehudim

  99. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    I was 7 years old here in 1968 Chicago. I remember it like it was last year.

    These anti War, anti Mayor Daley rioters were the most repulsive people I’ve ever seen then or since.

    I’m not at all embarrassed to say I favor sentencing these types to hard labor camps whether in Siberia, Poland or Idaho – not death camps mind you, just supervised honest physical labor with no press conferences, not obscenities.

    Not civilized European society or the Japanese should ever have to put up with these types.

    And I always go with the idea if these people are so unhappy living in our White Gentile countries/societies they have always been free to go live amongst themselves, they now have a homeland – Israel the homeland of the Jews.

    So go home.

    Lots of very anti Jewish writers and thinkers like German theologian Martin Luther predicted that the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine wouldn’t solve the JQ because most Jews would make some excuse not to go to their homeland where they would have to work like honest people and not live as parasites, merchants, usurers or like George Soros….

    Money speculators, money changers.

    • Agree: Patriot
  100. /

    As I wrote at the outset, I’ve always regarded the ultimately chaotic and clownish trial of the Chicago 7 as nothing more than a piece of degenerate Jewish political performance art, demoralizing to the American justice system and energizing to a new generation of Judeo-Anarchist activists.

    Very similar to the Jewish (supposed) artists living in the Twin Towers until 09/10/2001, one day before the Towers blew up, it’s all theater. For generations Jews have been at the forefront advancing the destruction of America. It’s feeds their dream of a One World Government sitting in Jerusalem. Very Luciferian. The bad news for their controllers is more and more Gentiles are waking up to the Zionist agenda. Thank God for the internet. The bad news for real practicing Jews is Jews like Hoffman have been, and continue to be used, as fall guys by the heads of the Luciferian/Freemasons that succeeded Albert Pike. The Protocols Of Zion are legit.

  101. @vinteuil

    Calling Lot a “Hasbara troll” just makes you look “ridiculous”

    Good point — but you should be more specific in indicating that the preferred term is “hasbarat.”

  102. Liza says:
    @Steve in Greensboro

    The arrival of large numbers of boat people here was probably the reason behind that war, apart from the profiteering. Same as in the M.E. “Invade the world, etc.”

  103. Lot says:
    @mark green

    1. Vietnam would have been a lot more popular if we had won a smashing victory in six, or even sixty or six hundred days.

    2. There’s nothing much to say about the friendly fire U.S.S. Liberty incident unless you’re a paranoid conspiracy nut. I’m not even sure your gracious OP author Mr. Joyce, as much as he hates Jews, believes the USS Liberty and Holohoax theories.

    When push comes to shove, Jews of all political persuasions come to the rescue of Israel. America be damned.

    In reality, America is blessed and honored to be Israel’s protector. We’re the heirs to Richard the Lionheart and Frederick Barbarossa

  104. @Lot

    There’s nothing much to say about the friendly fire U.S.S. Liberty incident unless you’re a paranoid conspiracy nut.

    The men who were aboard the U S S Liberty, watched their shipmates die, survived and were threatened into 53 years of silence about what they experienced have a great deal to say, and said it for the record —

    Sacrificing Liberty: Israel’s Attack on USS Liberty in 1967

    Spoiler alert:
    The docu-series is four hours long. In the last part, the full extent of LBJ’s treachery is laid bare.

    TruNews has made the series available to the public as a DVD or online.

    (Query: How does Biden’s betrayal of US interests to the Chinese compare with LBJ’s sell-out to Israel?)

    https://www.trunews.com/stream/sacrificing-liberty-leads-to-online-petition-demanding-congressional-investigation

  105. fnn says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    Warmongering became the religion of the American Empire in 1940-41. That was when FDR came up with wild stories such as the one about a Nazi fleet crossing the Atlantic and invading Brazil and then moving north to attack the US.

    The second fake, which is actually at least somewhat controversial, is the idea that WWII was a war of self-defense. Consider, for example, FDR’s Navy Day speech, October 27, 1941. FDR, having just finished misrepresenting the Kearny incident, comes out with the following:

    Hitler has often protested that his plans for conquest do not extend across the Atlantic Ocean. But his submarines and raiders prove otherwise. So does the entire design of his new world order.

    For example, I have in my possession a secret map made in Germany by Hitler’s government-by the planners of the new world order. It is a map of South America and a part of Central America, as Hitler proposes to reorganize it. Today in this area there are fourteen separate countries. The geographical experts of Berlin, however, have ruthlessly obliterated all existing boundary lines; and have divided South America into five vassal states, bringing the whole continent under their domination. And they have also so arranged it that the territory of one of these new puppet states includes the Republic of Panama and our great life line-the Panama Canal.

    That is his plan. It will never go into effect.

    This map makes clear the Nazi design not only against South America but against the United States itself.

    Your government has in its possession another document made in Germany by Hitler’s government. It is a detailed plan, which, for obvious reasons, the Nazis did not wish and do not wish to publicize just yet, but which they are ready to impose-a little later-on a dominated world-if Hitler wins. It is a plan to abolish all existing religions-Protestant, Catholic, Mohammedan, Hindu, Buddhist and Jewish alike. The property of all churches will be seized by the Reich and its puppets. The cross and all other symbols of religion are to be forbidden. The clergy are to be forever silenced under penalty of the concentration camps, where even now so many fearless men are being tortured because they have placed God above Hitler.

    In the place of the churches of our civilization, there is to be set up an International Nazi Church-a church which will be served by orators sent out by the Nazi Government. In the place of the Bible, the words of Mein Kampf will be imposed and enforced as Holy Writ. And in place of the cross of Christ will be put two symbols-the swastika and the naked sword.

    https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/08/america-vampire-of-world-part-1/

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  106. Trinity says:

    Perhaps we could promote that Mein Kampf should be required in “our” schools to teach our children how evil Uncle Adolf and the “Nazis” really were back then. Now, you know the “teens” and “yufes” won’t read anything and if they do, the won’t grasp at all what Hitler was saying is now true in America. Just maybe, some misguided Whites will put two and two together and say, hey, this guy with the silly moustache was “woke” back then.

    The downhill slide of America really was taken up a notch starting right after the Second World War. COHENcidence? Then it really escalated in the 1960s and each decade after was taken a step further and further, the Seventies begat the Eighties which were even worse than the Sixties and Seventies and so on and so on. Now in 2020, we are really in the sewer, even as early as the turn of the century, we didn’t see a negro on every single commercial, or a negro/White couple on every other commercial and the thought of a negro POTUS in the White House was still a punchline. Hell, in 2020, we even have commercials on network television with two dudes kissing each other. Do you remember anyone promoting transgenderism as normal even back in 2000? Even gay marriage was considered abnormal back then, now you have the freaking Pope promoting homosexual marriage as acceptable and freaks out in Commiefornia are trying to legalize pedophilia. Imagine someone that died in the early 1990s even, and you could bring them back to life to see what has happened to the America they knew just 30 years ago? That person would be ready to crawl back in the grave if they were even half normal.

  107. Anonymous[137] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    If Joyce had been there he’d have been a Bircher calling for white Americans to be taxed to pay for their sons to pointlessly die in the jungle.

    Don’t be an idiot. The JBS was against the Vietnam War and wanted to bring the troops home. For your penance, read a book.

  108. Realist says:
    @Thomasina

    With Trump? That’s uncertain.

    It’s not to me.

  109. anarchyst says:
    @Rich

    One of the most successful counter-insurgency programs is little-known in the annals of the Vietnam conflict.
    The United States Marine Corps “Combined Action Program” was a small-unit pacification program which provided security for hamlets and villages, denying the “enemy” resources, while using local Vietnamese “Popular Forces” to provide additional forces for local “protection”.
    This program was so successful that once in friendly hands, no village or hamlet ever reverted back to “enemy” control.
    Quite often, the average rank of a CAP leader was a Corporal or Sergeant. Officers were posted at the company level, but rarely spent time in the villages.
    A good read on the subject is “Our War Was Different” by Al Hemingway and Phil Caputo.

    • Thanks: Rich
    • LOL: Rufus Clyde
    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  110. DaveE says:

    Yes, it’s a rich country and they’ve been successful, but material prosperity and careers are not everything. Ethnicity and culture matter, being comfortable among your own people, and having collective self-determination.

    “I know your poverty, ye who are extremely wealthy, yet are of the Synagogue of Satan.” – JC

    They’re insanely jealous of our talent, out culture, our inventiveness and yes, our decency to each other, even to Jews. All their diabolical power games, stolen money through usury, “investment” (aka stealing the fruits of our labor in “the markets” w inside information, timing, etc.), nepotism, infil-traition, corruption, etc. just ain’t no substitute for talent and hard work, at least in terms of gaining respect. The Jews have everything except what they really crave: respect and admiration.

    Just for $^&#s and giggles, anyone ever notice how, whenever the “markets” tank – as they’re doing now – the biggest drops always seem to occur in the middle of the night, which is the start of the morning workday, in Israel?

    Check it out here: https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/djia%20futures

    They’re just mobsters who can lie, cheat and steal – but they’ll never have “respect”. Isn’t that the one thing Scarface wanted most?

  111. Rich says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    You are very confused. Just smother victim of a poor education. The Americans fought bravely and nobly in Vietnam taking great care to avoid civilian casualties. War is hell, it’s true, but had the communists not invaded the South, many deaths would have been avoided. The fault for all the violence in SE Asia belongs squarely on the shoulders of the Reds. Whether you like it or not.

  112. Getaclue says:
    @AaronB

    Except you haven’t done that — you connived the USA to “deal with the Arabs” — 911 ring a bell?

  113. Richard B says:
    @Tom Verso

    Thanks for your response Tom, and for the kind words. I liked your comment and there’s a lot I’d like ot respond to. So, to keep it simple I chose these two lines, one pretty much reinforcing the other.

    Arguably, that is the objective goal of the Jewish revolution against Western Civilization.

    that domination is predicated on the “dysfunctional and maladaptive” non-Jewish people.

    Yes, I agree. But that’s exactly my point. Which is, what we’re witnessing is the Pyrrhic Victory of Jewish Supremacy Inc. Also, the fact that your comment is exactly right, is why many think that JSI is criminally insane. And the two things, the insanity and Pyrrhic Victory are inextricably linked. They go together.

    But, perhaps putting it this way will make my point clearer. Though JSI has been very good at infiltration, subversion, destruction and death, they’re no good at social-management, at all. The kind of thinking required for acquiring the power they have is completely different from the kind of thinking required to sustain, maintain, and manage that power.

    So their problem now is fundamentally a psychological and intellectual one, which will require a whole new way of educating themselevs, of training themselves (and their proxies) to keep the whole thing going. As things stand now, however, they are showing no signs of being even aware of this, let alone responding accordingly.

    Also, and connected, their power is simply too proxy-dependent, to hoax-dependent, too propaganda & censorship-dependent. Put all of these together and you have the above mentioned Pyrrhic Victory. Nothing fails like their success.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  114. @Bruno

    …they disrupt societies where they are prospering.

    The Gulf Arabs with their much touted and fake “peace deal” with Israel don’t know what they are getting themselves into as descent into hell awaits. Jewish infiltration is already under way big time. Their irrational hatred for Iran will look like a Sunday picnic.

  115. anarchyst says:
    @Rich

    You are correct…

    There are those who have swallowed the false history-standard loss of Vietnam lies hook line and sinker. Americans and South Vietnamese prevailed in every battle-bar none. In fact, TET 1968 was a decisive victory for the South Vietnamese and American forces-the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces were decimated. Of course, the American mainstream media claimed it was a victory for the communists. North Vietnamese General Giap credited the American mainstream media with giving them new resolve.

    As to the so-called “anti-war protesters”, they only wanted one thing–to save their own skins–nothing more. In fact, when the draft ended, so did the protests. Even present-day “uber-patriot” Ted Nugent got in on the act, defecating and urinating on himself and not washing for a month before appearing before the draft board–he was sent home. He stated that Vietnam “was not his war”…

    The American Vietnam war was not a civil-war but was an INVASION by the communist North Vietnamese, who wanted control of the whole country. The INVASION was allowed to continue when American troops left and South Vietnamese troops were not resupplied.

    Those who have watched the Ken Burns’ schlockumentary on Vietnam, in which he built up the North Vietnamese while exacting harsh criticism (lies) on the American and South Vietnamese troops were exposed to Burns’ lies and fabrications. Of course, to his credit, Burns let it slip that the re-education camps contrary to communist claims (actually prisons) would be in operation for approximately six months after the war was over, it turns out that many former South Vietnamese were detained for as long as twenty years.

    Post-war Vietnam was so wonderful, tens of thousands of boat people risked life and limb to escape that communist paradise [silence].

    Ask the Vietnamese who live in Garden Grove and Westminster California what they think…

    • Agree: Rich
    • Replies: @SparkNflash
  116. Junk Yard Mongrels, top-dog-bottom-dog, our human doing earth time isn’t close to BEING an enlightenment. Time to leave the Caves.

  117. Sparkon says:

    The American Vietnam war was not a civil-war but was an INVASION by the communist North Vietnamese, who wanted control of the whole country. The INVASION was allowed to continue when American troops left and South Vietnamese troops were not resupplied.

    Wrong. Ho Chih Minh’s Vietminh had already prevailed against the French by 1954 at Dien Bien Phu.

    The Geneva Conference opened on 8 May 1954, the day after the surrender of the garrison. The resulting agreement partitioned Vietnam into two zones: communist North Vietnam and the State of Vietnam, which opposed the agreement, to the south. The partition was supposed to be temporary, and the two zones were meant to be reunited through national elections in 1956, which were never held.

    The elections were never held because U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower refused to participate in the process outlined at Geneva because of a real fear the Communists would win.

    And of course they did win, but it took another 20 years of bloodshed. All that could have been avoided if the elections had been held, and the elections would have been held if not for the United States.

    • Agree: Beavertales
  118. @Richard B

    I recall having a heated argument with a dipshit SJW a few years ago….as I tried in vain to get him to understand what Israel has been doing in the ME. I told him about “Clean Break,” PNAC, what the neocons had done and what they wanted to do. But the idiot kept shaking his head and scoffing at me,
    saying, “That’s absurd! Why would Israel want to destabilize the middle east?! That doesn’t make sense!”

    I kept repeating…..that’s what they WANT…..that’s what they DO. They kill off the competition.

    He could not imagine that organized jewry would actually engineer the destruction of its’ neighbors, orchestrate chaos, to make it so that Israel is the single and only cohesive and unified national power in the ME.

    • Agree: Patriot, GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @CollDoll
  119. All I know was watching Front Page Challenge from Canada and the panel was Gordon Sinclair ( the guy whose Radio tribute to America became overnight sensation) Betty Kennedy- Pierre Burton and another newswriter –their job was to guess who the secret guest was and it was Medina ( the guy with Calley who killed many Vietnamese peasants in a village –mostly elderly and children). Gordon Sinclair then commented “We should not have Betty -Pierre and me here tonght on this panel–but rather Boris Karloff–Bella Leguisi- Vincent Price and Peter Lawry”.

  120. Richard B says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I kept repeating…..that’s what they WANT…..that’s what they DO. They kill off the competition.

    That’s exactly right. But that’s also exactly why it’s a Pyrrhic Victory.

    They got Whites where they want them and look, the country’s destroyed. And not just for the host population, but for Jewish Supremacy Inc. as well. Evidence can be found in every single social institution under their control.

    Economic Institutions – Fake Money
    Teaching-Learning Institutions – Fake Knowledge (CRT, etc.)
    Governmental Institutions – Fake Information
    Media – Fake News
    Fake Social Institutions = Fake Culture = Cultural Impoverishment = Societal Collapse.
    Further proof is seen in cities, states, country, etc.
    City – NYC (gone for good, and they destroyed it)
    State – California (same)
    Counry – USA
    Region – Western Europe
    Civilization – Western

    When any idea, or theory, is put into action two things happen to the actors involved.
    1. it produces more data than they can respond to, and,
    2. a kind of data they can’t respond to at all.
    Their response to the culture crisis they’ve in effect created is proving more and more incompetent with each passing day and that incompetence is getting easier to see and harder to control. A vicious cycle is the result. But there’s nore.

    They might have subdued and even completely defeated Whites. But it’s unlikely they’ll be able to totally control all of their many proxies, and they won’t be able to control China at all. And now we’re back to their Pyrrhic Victory.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  121. I was a young teen living on the North side of Chicago. I had been in Lincoln and Grant parks the week of the convention and saw up close the events leading to the trial. I followed the reports of the trial in the Chicago news papers and on the television news.

    This movie is nostalgia porn for old hippies and ex-SDS knuckle heads. It’s a romantic fantasy for those who think the Sixties were such a magical time and that drugs and rock ‘n’ roll were going to change the world. It’s dog food for retards.

    I can’t wait for Sorkin to make a film about the Days of Rage in 1969 Chicago.

    • Agree: Liza
  122. Anon[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    I don’t get why the Jews got worked up over the draft during Vietnam. If you were in college, you got a draft deferment. Since Jews went to college (and grad school) at higher rates than WASPs, Jews were unlikely to be drafted for Vietnam at all.

  123. Anon[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan

    I’ve always thought the 60s Jewish protests came partially because Jews were forced to externalize their adolescent rebellion instead of quarreling with their parents the way everyone else does. Every time the Jewish kids tried it, their parents replied, “You can’t argue with me! Hitler almost killed me in the Holocaust, and this is how you treat me?” So their kids were forced to go rebel against the WASPs, who had saved the Jews’ lives by sending troops to over to Europe in World War II.

  124. Lot says:
    @Trinity

    “Ironically the greasy Jew was front and center leading the way saying that pornography and flag burning”

    Blab blab balb, no attempt at checking your gutter-brain assertions.

    The first big flag burning case, Street v New York, the state supreme court ruled the state can prosecute flag burning. The one who wrote the decision was Stanley Fuld, the chief judge who was Jewish.

    The US Supreme Court overturned the flag-burner’s conviction in a decision by Justice Harlan, not Jewish. Abe Fortas, who is Jewish, wrote a dissent favoring the prosecution. Here’s how it starts:

    MR. JUSTICE FORTAS, dissenting.

    I agree with the dissenting opinion filed by THE CHIEF JUSTICE, but I believe that it is necessary briefly to set forth the reasons why the States and the Federal Government have the power to protect the flag from acts of desecration committed in public.

    • Replies: @Curle
  125. Anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:

    Froines, Weiner, Hoffmann, Rubin, Davis, Dellinger, Hayden and Seale.

    I’m doing this from memory so . . .

    According to legal researcher and Chicago’s then-resident conspiracy theorist, Sherman Skolnick, all except Seale were agents provocateur of various factions of the establishment. Their purpose was to provoke a conviction under a recently passed federal anti-conspiracy law in order to help to solidify it *in* law. Skolnick predicted that none of them would do time for the conviction and that the jury had a fixer on it placed for the purpose of obtaining said conviction. (Skolnick repeatedly named her, but I don’t remember her name – Kay something, I think.) Seale was not part of the plot and tried to blow the whistle on it and that’s why he was gagged.

    Conspiracy theories do not lend themselves to scientific verification. All you can do is keep them in mind and see what happens.

    A couple of the 7 were convicted on the conspiracy charge. They were found not guilty of some other charges. I believe most of them were found guilty of contempt of court, but the contempt convictions were over-turned on appeal, except for Bobby Seale’s, who did time for contempt even though he got a mistrial ruling on the rest. He was the only one who did time.

    Froines went on to an academic career, much as Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn did later after their “revolutionary” rampages and years on the lamb. (Academia seems to have a soft spot for felonious radicals.)

    Tom Hayden married Jane Fonda(!) and went into California politics.

    Jerry Rubin, as Andrew Joyce mentioned, indeed became a stock trader somewhere down the line.

    “Radical” Rennie Davis went on to work for a reputedly conservative insurance corporation – John Hancock, I believe.

    Abbie Hoffman went “underground” – in the Thousand Island resort area. His companion during this “exile” was reportedly model Patricia Lawrenson (His minder perhaps? Or just a pacifier?), daughter of big time New York journalist Helen Lawrenson. He reportedly had plastic surgery to conceal his identity – although he looked to me a whole heck of a lot like Abbie Hoffman – and somehow resurfaced – still incognito – as an “environmental” consultant to Governor Hugh Carey of the State of New York. They even took a picture together. And later he died. They say it was suicide, but who knows if it was really his own idea.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  126. @Lot

    In reality, America is blessed and honored to be Israel’s protector. We’re the heirs to Richard the Lionheart and Frederick Barbarossa

    Not every theologian agrees with Dispensationalism. Stuff like the Hebrew Roots movement is even heretical if you read the book of Galatians.

    So-called anti-Semitism in Europe was mostly blowback from exploiting commoners, hence clauses in the Magna Carta regarding Jewish moneylenders.

  127. CollDoll says:

    In August 1969 Chicago 7 trial lawyer Bill Kuntsler was at Woodstock with Abby Hoffman where he (Kuntsler) said he dropped acid for the first time. Perhaps that anecdote explains the antics of the Chicago 7 trial which began the next month in September 1969.

  128. CollDoll says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Reminds me when Jesse Ventura was on The View promoting his book on 911 and Barbara Walters looked at him in pity and said, “Jesse, you don’t really believe that our government would intentionally kill its own people,” He retorted, “What do you call Vietnam?!”

    • Thanks: Pheasant
  129. CollDoll says:
    @Thomasina

    Yes, Trump has overtly declared himself an anti-Globalist (which is Deep State writ large). I believe he did so even at the U.N. Whereas Biden is a total Globalist.

    To be anti-Globalist means you are against The Great Reset, the new propaganda name for the NWO on steroids, as described by Tessa Fights Robots’ smashing article “The Great Reset for Dummies” https://tessa.substack.com/p/great-reset-dummies

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  130. Oracle says:
    @Hereyougo

    But this basic approach leaves them uncriticized and able to do whatever they want—and the terrible results of this attitude surround us every day. This attitude is not the solution. Delegitimizing and disempowering would go a long way to fixing the problem.

  131. CollDoll says:
    @fnn

    David Baxter, one of the defendants in the Great Sedition Trial of 1944, wrote about his experience. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v06/v06p-23_Baxter.html

    The defendants were anti-war and were waging what they called a Peace Offensive. Great name!

    Apparently, it was the ADL that gathered dirt on the defendants and passed it along to the FBI who simply cut/paste the info into their investigative report that led to the indictments. Today it is SPLC who plays this role. Baxter did not learn the ADL-FBI collaboration until decades later through a FOIA request.

    Baxter included a jaw dropping excerpt from a United Press article:

    Under pressure from Jewish organizations, to judge from articles appearing in publications put out by Jews for Jews, the new indictment even more than the first was drawn to include criticisms of Jews as “sedition.” It appeared that a main purpose of the whole procedure, along with outlawing unfavorable comments on the administration, was to set a legal precedent of judicial interpretations and severe penalties which would serve to exempt Jews in America from all public mention except praise, in contrast to the traditional American viewpoint which holds that all who take part in public affairs must be ready to accept full free public discussion, either pro or con.

  132. @Rich

    Vietnam nationalists wanted all foreign occupation ended, and communism was their vehicle to get it done.

    We’ll never know what would have happened if the US containment strategy begun in the 1960’s was instead substituted with a hands-off approach, much like the policy adopted for Cuba.

    The anti-war movement got one thing right. After the foreigners were kicked out, Communism did not spread from Vietnam. It withered and died and today the Vietnamese embrace free markets. Continuing the war was spilling blood for dubious return.

    The arguments about whether Vietnam was won by Nixon’s bombing can perhaps be answered best by Afghanistan. Every surge seemed to work.

    • Replies: @Rich
  133. DaveE says:
    @Richard B

    When any idea, or theory, is put into action two things happen to the actors involved.
    1. it produces more data than they can respond to, and,
    2. a kind of data they can’t respond to at all.

    Your entire comment is brilliant and deserves a 24-size bold font “Thanks”…. but I’m outa those at the moment….!

    But I think the above lines highlight a strategy of JSI you don’t hear much about….. I call it the “noise” approach to obfuscation and destruction of reason. Whenever they can’t win an argument, it seems the “noise” instinct kicks in and they just drown out any phase-coherent thought with noisy illogical garbage “argument”. It’s almost as if they lash out first and if the reasoning happens at all, it’s much later.

    They’re making it up as they go, in other words. If they can’t convince, they resort to confuse and distract instead – with “data” and just plain old “noise”.

    Anyway, great comment.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
  134. Richard B says:
    @Andrew Joyce

    Hayden alone is worthy of a detailed biographical essay

    I’m sure your readers would love to see an essay of yours on that one. I know I would.

    I grew up around people like him. They’re interested in power. If by some unaccountable miracle Whites were back on top, the Tom Hayden’s would side with them in a nanosecond without a catch in the throat. Because people like him are shameless. He didn’t become a politician for nothing. 

    Tom Hayden-types and the Jewish Supremacists they suck up to, ie; the hostile elite, all live out of The Dark Triad. Everything in their lives serves that, ideology, moralizing, etc. Everything in their lives is placed under the iron paw of their lust for power, narcissism, and psychopathology. They live and breathe it 24/7.

    So, of course, anyone who stands in their way has to be considered an “evil and oppressive” force that must be crushed. The moralizing hides the ugliness of it all, but when that isn’t enough and they’re found out, they simply become shameless and dare us to challenge their “morality.” 

    They’re psychotics, fanatics. Because fanaticism and self-awareness don’t go together, learning, change, and growth mean nothing to them. And the source of learning, change, and growth, i.e. self-criticism without anxiety, is simply inconceivable. That’s why they’re abolishing freedom itself. It’s the new F word. That’s why they’ve destroyed our teaching-learning institutions. But this moral insanity even extends to their own families. So, sacrificing their children to it is small potatoes. Because fanaticism and love don’t go together either.  

    The bright spot, at least for us, is that we know so much more about all of this than we did 50+ years ago. And they know we know. That’s why they’re pulling all of the stops. And what is the sum total of what we know? That people like Tom Hayden represent the single greatest threat to the world and everything good in it.

    To throw the revolting Noel Ignatiev’s words back at him and them, Treason against the hostile elite is loyalty to humanity.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Pheasant
  135. Richard B says:
    @DaveE

    Thanks for the kind words Dave. And you’re absolutely right about “the noise.” It’s what they do cause it’s who they are.

    And I couldn’t agree more that they seem to be making it up as they go along. Yes, there’s a plan. Yes, a lot, if not all, of the destruction is intentional. I’m sure most of us who comment here would agree on that. But, again, their actions, like all of our actions, always produce more consequences than any of us can possibly respond to. The best thing in that case is to simply admit it. But they can’t even acknowledge it.

    And I think the reason is, that this kind of thing gives us a knowledge about ourselves that a lot of people don’t want to have. This is why they are aboslishing freedom of speech. Exactly because it’d be so easy to expose this about them and reduce their entire BS narrative to rubble. but I think this is going to happen anyway. Not by any individual or group, but by the accidents of history that are always beyond our control, and theirs.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  136. Wielgus says:
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    But half the website commentariat here and quite a few of the articles contributed claim the gas chambers were lies!
    Anyway, someone calling for their deaths while wearing a swastika armband was more likely to create sympathy for them than discredit them, much less achieve their gassing. WW2 was still a relatively recent memory in 1969. Duke was playing with his versions of shock tactics while the defendants engaged in their own brand.
    I note in passing that Enoch Powell fought the Third Reich in WW2, rising to the rank of brigadier, and seems to have specialised in intelligence work, he didn’t support Nazi Germany.

  137. Trinity says:

    Can we please drop phrases like “globalists,” “The Deep State,” etc., and call a spade a spade or in this case a Jew a Jew? This is like calling the Jewish funded and led movements of Antifa/BLM and the Jewish controlled media, “liberals.” A REAL liberal is not a bad thing, so calling or identifying groups of anti-White Jews and Blacks and self hating white traitor trash and Jewish Supremacists as “liberals” is an insult to a REAL liberal. I actually consider myself more of a REAL liberal than a conservative, yes, you can be a White separatist and still be a liberal. I am for the rights of all people and I know that all people would benefit much better living among their own kind. Blacks and Jews have bled White America dry, and now Jews are importing brown skinned Arabs, Mexicans, and others to put a nail in the coffin of what is left of this nation. A REAL liberal or anti-racist would be on the front lines defending oppressed Whites in South Africa, Europe, Canada, America and Palestinians in the Middle East. A REAL liberal would be front in center condemning Jewish and Black racism, and recognize that White racism is the least of our worries in America, but Jewish power and influence, Jewish anti-White racism, Black on White violence is indeed a major concern in this nation and abroad.

    These Jewish racist Supremacists have HIJACKED words like “liberal” and Whites in America have voluntarily self censored themselves from even having the temerity to identify Jewish crimes, Jewish pedophile rings, Jewish control of the West as Jewish, instead we act like scared children and use names like “liberal,” “globalists,” blah, blah, blah.

  138. @anon

    No, it’s pretty much garbage.

  139. @Lot

    That’s an entirely inaccurate statement about the Liberty incident. I find both sides amusing. Jewish supremacists who want to pretend it was an accident, and dimwit Americans who want to pretend it was an indpendent Israeli action. All evidence points to a combined operation approved at the highest levels of the US government, which the Israelis couldn’t carry off because they weren’t trying to kill a bunch of half-trained Arab conscripts armed with second-tier Soviet weapons.

    • Troll: Trinity, Pheasant
  140. Sparkon says:
    @Anonymous

    Good memory. The long and short of it is the co-called “Chicago 7” were poseurs and agents provocateurs set up and financed by corrupt elements of the U.S. government to disrupt and discredit the legitimate anti-war movement.

    Excerpts from Sherman Skolnick’s exposé of the Chicago 7:

    Unknown to the public, Rennie Davis, Tom Hayden, and the others who became the “7”, and persons connected with them in the National Mobilization to End the War in Viet Nam, were funded by federal money, channeled to them through pass-through organizations connected with the government. $192,000 in federal money and $85,000 from the Carnegie Foundation, acting as a conduit for the Central Intelligence Agency, were funneled to Hayden, Davis, et al., through a front calling itself the Chicago Student Health Organization. To maintain the deep “cover” of this latter group, stories were planted in the press describing the group as being “communist” inspired or directed.

    […]

    This is part two of the posting of our original report, 1972, about the Anti-Viet Nam War supposed activists. They were selected, installed, and financed, on behalf of the Aristocracy, through their American CIA, as the supposed “leaders” of what was called then the “Peace Movement”.

    These government-paid and protected agents provocateurs were the main focus of the oil-soaked, spy-riddled monopoly press. The purpose? To keep other real peaceniks from being heard and seen. And further, to censor and side-track any and all data as to the war-mongers and war-profiteers among the Federal Banker-Judges, paid stooges in Congress, and the White House.

    […]

    Some time after circulating in 1972 our story about the “Chicago 7”, we found out that the apparently “planted” juror, Kay Richards, was a computer operator at a Chicago-area firm whose primary work, under contract, was for the American C.I.A. Her writing for the Chicago Sun-Times helped wreck the government’s prosecution of the “7”…

    CHICAGO 7″ Are They For Real?

    • Thanks: Rufus Clyde
  141. @fnn

    Conquest was the state religion before the US was a country. I’m always amused by the claims that Nazi Germany was planning to invade the United States as part of their world conquest program. There’s a portion of an interview in Ken Burns’ “The War” in which some guy from Connecticut claims to have captured a German who had been trained in a Nazi program to manage a post-war occupation of the US. There is no historical evidence of any kind for such a program, but it doesn’t seem to cause people to bat an eye when they hear such rubbish.
    The US Navy existed from the start to form the back-bone of an expansionist geo-political-economic entity.
    The American Volunteer Group was formed long before the phoney surprise at Pearl Harbour, and later morphed into the full-blown criminal narcotics smuggling Civil Air Transport/Air America abomination.

  142. DaveE says:
    @Richard B

    it’d be so easy to expose this about them and reduce their entire BS narrative to rubble. but I think this is going to happen anyway. Not by any individual or group, but by the accidents of history that are always beyond our control, and theirs.

    Yep. The Chosenites ain’t no match for a crazy little thing called “karma” and it drives them crazy…… not that it’s a long drive to begin with!

    The scam is coming unglued FAST, that’s for sure. It won’t be pretty, but somehow the world is ridding itself of a virus that is the REAL cause of so much sickness and misery.

    Good times are ahead, I’m certain.

    • Agree: Richard B
  143. Rich says:
    @Beavertales

    Cambodia and Laos fell to the communists after the American withdrawal. The willingness of the Americans to fight a prolonged war in Vietnam slowed the expansion and prevented all of Asia from falling.

    Calling Ho’s crew “nationalists” is like calling Lenin a nationalist. Ho was a Red, his followers were Reds and when they finally occupied S Vietnam they did what Reds always do, murdered and tortured their own people.

    • Thanks: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  144. @Wielgus

    I note in passing that Enoch Powell fought the Third Reich in WW2, rising to the rank of brigadier, and seems to have specialised in intelligence work, he didn’t support Nazi Germany.

    He fought the Japanese in Burma, and in the end, he was called a Nazi and Fascist anyway.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  145. @Father O'Hara

    Our boy Lot is just another Prot Fundie cultist wack job, who feels “blessed” to be gagging on Jew schlong 24/7 365…lol

    • LOL: Trinity
  146. @anarchyst

    There is no evidence that CAP was any more successful than all the other failed efforts at pacification and counter-insurgency. Counter-insurgency failed everywhere except Malaya, and that was because the anti-imperialist forces were ethnic Chinese with no support in the local population.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  147. @Rich

    Great ad hominem instead of a reasoned argument. Good job. There was no South Vietnam without US imperialist intervention. No American had any business killing a single Vietnamese in Vietnam. The US program began with arming and supporting the dengerate French empire, which resumed control of the Vietnamese people and resources after the degenerate British imperial forces kept the locals under control, with the help of the Japanese, at the end of the Second World War.
    US imperialists have no tolerance for any thought that deviates from their program, which is why Ed Lansdale launched his fear campaign in the North, terrifying the reactionary “sepoy” Catholic minority, who all ran south, with the help of the CIA and US Navy.
    If the people of Vietnam had been permitted to hold the elections in 1956 that were agreed upon in the 1954 Geneva accord, no such thing as “South Vietnam” would have existed. This was known by the State Department and CIA, and a committee chaired by Nixon admitted this in 1954.

    • Disagree: Rich
  148. anarchyst says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    You are wrong…
    No CAP ville or hamlet was ever retaken by the “enemy”–NOT ONE. If that isn’t success, I don’t know what is…

    • Agree: Rich
    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  149. Pheasant says:
    @Richard B

    Tom Hayden looks like a crypto Jew.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @bjondo
  150. @anarchyst

    I believe you when you say you don’t.
    “The truth, I suspect, is that where
    it seemed to work, combined action
    wasn’t really needed, and where it
    was, combined action could never
    work.”
    https://www.usni.org/sites/default/files/inline-files/Kopets%2C%20Keith%20F.pdf

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  151. @Rufus Clyde

    I hit the troll button because even though Ron Unz is a national treasure, he has yet to provide us with Shlomo comment button.

    Even a hat with side-curls would be great. So here is one in the meantime.

    • LOL: Rufus Clyde
  152. @Rich

    If he was a Red, and not a nationalist as you claim, and his followers were Reds, and not nationalists, then those that got murdered and tortured by them weren’t really “their own people”, were they? But of course, the Reds would have had to go a long way to match the tiger and cow cages maintained by the puppet government in Saigon when it comes to torture. Certainly the Phoenix murder festival run by the US was remarkable in it’s bloodthirsty scope and lack of discernment.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  153. @Rufus Clyde

    I’d reply, but I don’t have the faintest idea of what you are babbling about.

    No one else who follows the responses between you and I in this thread would have the faintest idea of what you are babbling about, either.

    • Thanks: Rufus Clyde
  154. I haven’t responded to you in this thread, unless you’re using sock-puppets, in which case you’re confused. I get the impression that you’re someone who frequently finds themself in that state. But I do not doubt you when you say that you haven’t the faintest idea.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
  155. @Rufus Clyde

    In this case I admit I was wrong. You replied with a LOL to my comment. I misread that, and now see your post was addressed to Rich and not me. I saw only your name, and made an error, thinking you had replied to me.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  156. Thomasina says:
    @CollDoll

    Thank you for that very interesting article. I agree with most of it, but not her thoughts on overpopulation. I mean, Pakistan, Brazil, Nigeria all have 200 million people. China and India each have 1.4 billion! Africa is predicted to reach 4 billion by the turn of the century. Exponential growth on a finite planet is madness and just leaves the ordinary peasants in an even more vulnerable position.

    For the men in India who are being urged to get vasectomies? I say get out the garden clippers!

    But I did enjoy the article. Thanks.

  157. anarchyst says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    Thank you for the article.

    It is but one person’s opinion of the Combined Action Program in Vietnam.

    The book “Our War Was Different” by Al Hemingway was a compilation of writings by many of us who were involved with the program–first hand experiences, some good, some not so good.

    It is my humble opinion that Al Hemingway’s book is a much more factual and realistic account of the successes of the program than some college thesis written by someone who never served.

    Regards,

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Rufus Clyde
  158. Curle says:
    @Lot

    The porno was absolutely Jewish.

  159. Wielgus says:
    @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    He was also based in North Africa for a while. Early in 1943 his office was on the verge of circulating a report that Rommel had died or been killed, but they decided to hold back on releasing it for some final checking. The next day Rommel broke through American positions at Kasserine Pass, Tunisia.

  160. Wielgus says:
    @anarchyst

    “Hearts and minds” were often frustrated by the impact of more destructive parts of the war machine, and for many Americans “a gook was a gook”. Some had a grudging respect for the enemy whereas others told jokes that ARVN rifles were almost new, “never been fired and only dropped once”.

    • Replies: @Rufus Clyde
  161. @anarchyst

    You’re quite adept at weaving multiple logical fallacies into a tight little package. It’s like a form of invalid argument macrame. You immediately give away the bias game by using the term “us”. Then you proceed to ignore the substance of the comment on CAP that I quoted, which came from Edward Palm, who served in CAP, and then you use both an ad hominem and appeal to authority to disparage the article in which Palm’s take on CAP was discussed. Keep on derping!

  162. @Genrick Yagoda

    That’s okay. I liked your little cartoon. Is it supposed to be one of the guys from ZZ Top?

  163. @Wielgus

    It probably didn’t help that the US spilled the hearts and minds, along with a lot of other organs, of a million Vietnamese, into the dirt in the name of saving them from communism. Not to mention killing tens of thousands of other civilians in Cambodia and Laos, leaving millions of unexploded bombs in Laos. The US campaign in southeast Asia ranks as one of the great state crimes of the twentieth century.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  164. anarchyst says:
    @Rufus Clyde

    You are probably a Vietnam war protester or communist sympathizer who still has no concept of the geopolitics behind the reasons for American involvement in Vietnam.

    Not only did I serve, but took the time to both observe and investigate fully the reasons for, the mistakes made, and the one-sided attitude that many Americans still have regarding this period of American-Vietnamese history.

    That being said…

    There are those who are responsible for perpetuating the Vietnam Veteran stereotype in which they paint all of us who served with a very broad brush. Almost ALL of us Vietnam veterans came back with sound minds to an ungrateful country and quietly resumed our lives without incident or fanfare.

    The promised government jobs that were mandated into law and earmarked for returning Vietnam veterans never materialized as the hiring managers were all non-veterans who got their own non-veteran buddies into those jobs.

    There are still many who are of the same ilk as traitor Hanoi Jane Fonda who gave aid and comfort to the enemy while our POWS were (and are) still in captivity. Very few returning Vietnam veterans had problems-the stereotype of mental illness and instability that they claim that Vietnam veterans possess that many misguided people claim is totally false.

    There are those who have swallowed the false history-standard loss of Vietnam lies hook line and sinker. Americans and South Vietnamese prevailed in every battle-bar none. In fact, TET 1968 was a decisive victory for the South Vietnamese and American forces-the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces were decimated. Of course, the American mainstream media claimed it was a victory for the communists. North Vietnamese General Giap credited the American mainstream media with giving them new resolve.

    As to the so-called “anti-war protesters”, they only wanted one thing–to save their own skins–nothing more. In fact, when the draft ended, so did the protests. Even present-day “uber-patriot” rock-and-roll star Ted Nugent got in on the act, defecating and urinating on himself and not washing for a month before appearing before the draft board–he was sent home. He stated that Vietnam “was not his war”

    The American Vietnam war was not a civil-war but was an INVASION by the communist North Vietnamese, who wanted control of the whole country. The INVASION was allowed to continue when American troops left and South Vietnamese troops were not resupplied.

    Those who have watched the Ken Burns’ schlockumentary on Vietnam, in which he built up and praised the North Vietnamese while exacting harsh criticism (lies) on the American and South Vietnamese troops were exposed to Burns’ lies and fabrications. Of course, to his credit, Burns let it slip that the re-education camps contrary to communist claims) (actually prisons) would be in operation for approximately six months after the war was over, it turns out that many former South Vietnamese were imprisoned for as long as twenty years.

    To this day, the communist government prohibits the population from caring for and maintaining the gravesites of those South Vietnamese soldiers who perished during the war.

    Post-war communist Vietnam was so wonderful, tens of thousands of boat people risked life and limb to escape that communist paradise [silence].

    Ask the Vietnamese who live in Garden Grove and Westminster California what they think…

  165. Cat says:

    Apparently all the Chicago 7 (except Seale) were on the government payroll, i.e. , they were agents.

    See the work of Sherman H. Skolnick, chairman, Citizen’s Committee to Clean Up the Courts
    http://www.whale.to/b/skolnick9.html

    Background and finances of the “Chicago 7”. Unknown to the public, Rennie Davis, Tom Hayden, and the others who became the “7”, and persons connected with them in the National Mobilization to End the War in Viet Nam, wer e funded by federal money, channeled to them through pass-through organizations connected with the government. $192,000 in federal money and $85,000 from the Carnegie Foundation, acting as a conduit for the Central Intelligence Agency, were funneled to Hayden, Davis, et al., through a front calling itself the Chicago Student Health Organization. To maintain the deep “cover” of this latter group, stories were planted in the press describing the group as being “communist” inspired or directed.

  166. Richard B says:
    @Pheasant

    Tom Hayden looks like a crypto Jew.

    You’re probably right. I’ve thought about that myself, but never heard anything definitive. Either way, wouldn’t surprise me.

    • Agree: Pheasant
  167. Hibernian says:

    I presume the author knows that Richard J. Daley was not a WASP, neither were Hayden or Foran; the latter’s surname is a clue.

  168. Hibernian says:
    @Rich

    I hear “The Ballad of the Green Beret” playing in the background.

    • Replies: @Rich
  169. Rich says:
    @Hibernian

    Yeah, and I hear “Danny Boy”. Doesn’t change the fact that the men who fought in Vietnam were fighting for a noble cause.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  170. TGD says:

    Sorkin’s movie is not the first. In 1988, a teleplay entitled: “Conspiracy: The Trial of the Chicago 8” was shown on HBO. This production is much better as it was made while the defendants and attorneys were still living and defers to their comments on the events. It is available free on YouTube.

  171. bjondo says:
    @Pheasant

    Don’t think Hayden a Yid. Could be wrong.
    Seems to be too much of a hands and knees on floor beggar type.

    Before Counterpunch became 100% fish wrap, the excellent J. Blankfort
    and
    from a boat, Jane and Tom watch part of Yid assault on Beirut setting example
    for later Yid-on-a-hill bagels orgazming at Gaza slaughter also by Yid:

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/05/07/the-repackaging-of-tom-hayden/

    https://www.jta.org/1982/12/06/archive/fonda-condemns-double-standard-which-has-been-applied-to-israel-over-the-war-in-lebanon

  172. All I know is I saw the police riot in Chicago on live television 3 months before my eighth birth day & wondered why I had to wait so long to get what I wanted.

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