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Overture

I recently took some time to devote serious attention to the work of Jordan Peterson. Until a few months ago, my familiarity with Peterson had been limited to his very weak and ill-advised intervention in the Nathan Cofnas affair. At that time, I toyed with the idea of providing a series of historical examples (there are many) that would contradict every one of Peterson’s assertions regarding the Jewish Question, but, in the end, his intervention was dealt with so conclusively by Kevin MacDonald (see here), that I saw no reason to discuss it further and abandoned that essay at the “skeleton” stage. Peterson is, however, hard to ignore. As MacDonald put it, Peterson is indeed a “celebrity intellectual,” and one who, despite an occasionally overt philo-Semitism, has engaged in spirited defenses against some manifestations of cultural Marxism. This is admirable, and he is generally pleasing and interesting to watch his TV appearances. Watching and listening to these appearances with any frequency, it’s hard to escape Peterson’s key influences. The Canadian academic is both vocal and (remarkably) repetitive in naming them: summaries, quotes, and interpretations of Nietzsche, Dostoevsky, Solzhenitsyn, and Jung all feature very prominently in Peterson’s content.[A1]Jung is perhaps the most important figure in Peterson’s thought, understandable given their overlapping professional interest in psychology and psychoanalysis. The Canadian has most notably brought these interests to bear in his series of lectures on the psychological significance of the Biblical stories. It’s clear that all four men act as his foremost intellectual and personal heroes. But they share something else in common – they have all confronted the Jewish Question in a manner that quite clearly contradicts the view put forth by Peterson. This is not to say that everyone must follow all the ideas of their heroes, but it does call into question how carefully Peterson has both understood these writers and considered his own position on the Jews. The following essay is intended to tease out some problems and contradictions.

I’ve spent the last couple of months listening to Peterson’s lecture series on the Biblical stories, reading his 12 Rules for Life, and examining (and re-examining) his essay “On the So-Called Jewish Question.” I have to confess to finding his lecture series extremely strange. Listening to the audience question and answer sessions at the end of each lecture, it’s clear that Peterson has a sizeable Jewish following and that his lectures are, if not geared toward Jews, certainly holding great appeal for them. Part of this may be the fact that, for an ostensibly Christian apologist, thus far only one of Peterson’s sixteen lectures have concerned the New Testament. What I find particularly interesting about Peterson’s interpretation of these stories is that he extracts, in abstract psychoanalytic fashion, a series of self-help non-sequiturs without looking at how and why the stories were formulated in the first place, and how they have been understood by Jews during the many centuries since they were written. This is an especially ironic development because Peterson’s approach to these particular texts is rather like that of Jacques Derrida, the Jewish Marxist postmodernist he rebukes in 12 Rules for Life, who argued “there is nothing outside the text.” And it is quite unlike the suggestion of his hero Carl Jung, who, as Peterson notes in 12 Rules for Life, suggested that “if you cannot understand why someone did something, look at the consequences — and infer the motivation.”

Peterson doesn’t seem remotely interested in the psychological needs and motivations of the Jewish authors and readers of the stories, and, by his own admission (in the question and answer session following his discussion of the tale of Jacob and Esau) Peterson has never examined the Talmud to see how Jews have interacted with them.

This is certainly the case with the Book of Exodus. Peterson glosses over the barbarism of the Moses character and seems oblivious to evidence strongly suggesting the book was constructed as a response to a proliferation of Greek-Egyptian narratives in the third century B.C. about the eviction of subversive foreigners from the historical Nile Delta. Instead, Peterson presents the Moses character as someone in touch with a divine cosmic subconscious, who “bargains” with a largely benevolent and well-meaning deity that represents the future—god as a “judgmental father.” (In Peterson’s rendering of the development of religion, picturing the future as a “judgmental father” to whom we owe sacrifices is a stroke of genius.) In this approach, Peterson both borrows the methodology, and diverges from the conclusions, of the psychoanalytical examination of the Bible carried out by his hero Carl Jung, who, in his essays “Answer to Job” and “Christ, a Symbol of the Self,” characterized the Yahweh of the Torah as “savage,” “touchy,” “suspicious,” “two-faced,” “gratuitous,” “revolting,” “remorseless,” “brutal,” and “illogical.”[A2]All quotes taken from Anthony Storr (ed), The Essential Jung: Selected Writings (London: Fontana, 1998). These traits are so manifest that Europeans/Christians have struggled for many centuries with their distaste for the God of the Old Testament. An excellent recent example of the Christian attempt to wrestle with this problem, and an overview of the history of debate on the issue, is Paul Copan and Matthew Flannagan’s Did God Really Command Genocide? Coming to Terms with the Justice of God (Michigan: Baker Books, 2014).

Peterson’s obliviousness to the specificities of Jewish interpretations and uses of the texts he discusses is perhaps even more the case regarding the story of Jacob/Israel and Esau. Peterson sees the tale as a straightforward lesson in making the right sacrifices to achieve one’s goals and avoiding resentment when things don’t work out how you’d like them—an anodyne self-help platitude by any estimation. But how have Jews historically treated the story of one of their foremost Patriarchs?

It surely has great significance for any psychological rendering of the tale that Jacob translates as “usurper” or “he who cheats,” and that Jews have always conceptualized Esau as representing gentiles, especially Europeans, or the racial or cultural descendants of the Romans. Daniel Elazar, writing for the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, comments that Esau displays “characteristics which are later to become part of the Jewish stereotype of non-Jews (“goyim”).” Meir Levin addsthat “the rabbinic identification of Rome with the Biblical figure of Esau is basic to the traditional understanding of much of the relevant sections of Chumash Bareishis [Genesis].” Levin continues that the Talmud and later rabbinical commentaries presented Esau and Western civilization as sharing negative characteristics such as hypocrisy (Shocher Tov 14,3), individualism, and placing an emphasis on style over substance. Maimonides pictured Esau as an “evildoer” whose descendants were “Amalekites” who were “to be destroyed and their name blotted out.” Maimonides wrote that survivors of the Amalekites were “Rome and the Catholic Church.” Salo Baron writes that the idea that Europeans were the descendants of Esau was “widely accepted in medieval Jewry” along with the idea that the dominion of Edom-Rome would end with the coming of a Jewish messiah.[A3]Baron, S. W. (1934). “The Historical Outlook of Maimonides.” Proceedings of the American Academy for Jewish Research, Vol. 6, No. 5, 24. The Jewish-American History Foundation concurs that “Babylon, Rome, Edom, and Christianity are synonymous,” and remarks that the final end of Edom/descendants of Esau is interpreted from Jewish texts as meaning “that every one of the Mount (or House) of Esau may, or shall, be cut off by slaughter,” [Obadiah v.9] and will “perish forever.”

This interpretive pedigree is more than a little darker in tone than Jordan Peterson’s “clean your room” rendering. But it’s easy to see why Jews would applaud and promote the latter’s presentations. A takeaway message for Christian and atheist alike from Peterson’s lectures would be that these texts are full of rich and benevolent wisdom, with no mention of even the possibility of malignant intent or usage. As stated above, it’s highly likely that Jordan Peterson is naively ignorant of this interpretive pedigree, and there is nothing in his work or activism that suggests he has ever seriously engaged with Jewish cultural activity, or critical commentary on it (for all his bluster, I sincerely doubt he’s read a single sentence written by Kevin MacDonald). Indeed, if any reader wanted a serious, and novel, psychological profile of the Biblical stories, the third chapter of Kevin MacDonald’s A People That Shall Dwell Alone makes a succinct but powerful case for evolutionary aspects of the Tanakh. All things considered, I find it difficult to separate Peterson’s dubious approach to the lecture series from his 12 Rules for Life and later essay “On the So-Called Jewish Question.”

On a fundamental level, I believe that Peterson is hopelessly wrong in his approach to Jewish matters, and especially the issue of anti-Semitism. Since the opinion of an anonymous “anti-Semite” is likely to hold little sway with the celebrity intellectual, however, what follows is a critique of the latter essay by each of the four men whom Peterson holds most dear; by those we might, or he might, even call his intellectual fathers. So Jordan, it’s time for a father-son talk.

Part One: Solzhenitsyn

Jordan Peterson references Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in almost every interview, talk, or text he delivers. His admiration for the Russian author is considerable and is made clear in 12 Rules for Life. In 12 Rules, Peterson refers (p.115) to Solzhenitsyn as “the great writer, the profound, spirited defender of truth.” He writes (p.116) that Solzhenitsyn was an extremely brave man whose courage was one of the reasons for the fall of Communism. He (p. 140) wrote “definitively and profoundly about the horrors of the twentieth century,” and (p.152) “wrote the truth, his truth, hard-learned through his own experiences.”

Solzhenitsyn came to mind immediately when I read the early part of Peterson’s essay “On the So-Called Jewish Question.” The title itself is almost unforgivably flippant and dismissive, and illustrative of a deep ignorance of history. In essence, Peterson appears to deny the possibility or reality of fundamental clashes of interest between Europeans and Jews, both in the past and in the present, along with a rejection of the notion that these clashes have historically revolved around issues of identity—especially the expression of Jewish identity in Western civilization. These issues are what is essentially meant by the term “the Jewish Question.”

In addition, Peterson’s scorn for what he dismissively terms “identity politics” may be rhetorically fashionable among civic nationalists willfully ignorant of the determinant role of race and ethnicity in world history, but it’s largely meaningless considering that identity (racial, religious, cultural) has influenced politics from time immemorial. All politics are ultimately rooted in identity, and all identities are ultimately political. Given serious reflection, Peterson’s position may be deemed even more harmful and dangerous to Whites than the Left-Liberal position, because while the latter is merely hypocritical in denying the positive aspect of ethnic identity to Whites (i.e., denial of the right to ask the question “is this good for my group”), Peterson would have us believe that all our deep interests are essentially synonymous or at least reconcilable, and that conflicts based on group interests are both essentially wrong and in some way escapable. This can only be described as a facile understanding of the development and manifestation of ethnic conflict.

In Solzhenitsyn’s Russia, the cultural and political clash of Jewish and European identities was, of course, both inescapable (beginning with large-scale Jewish settlement and subsequent population growth), and utterly catastrophic. So one has to ask how Solzhenitsyn, with his “truth, hard-learned through his own experiences” might respond to Peterson’s dismissal of the Jewish Question in relation to “identity politics.”

Fortunately, we know exactly how Solzhenitsyn would reply to the Canadian celebrity intellectual because he answered an almost identical situation in 1985, when he came under fire for implying that Jewish identity played an influential and negative role in the Bolshevik revolution. In particular, many Jewish critics came forth to declare that there had been no such “Jewish Question” in the development of the revolution, and that Solzhenitsyn was an anti-Semite for declaring the opposite. Solzhenitsyn’s reply now comes across the decades, speaking directly to a man who would lay claim to be his protégé:

A Jewish Question existed and was a burning issue. But at that time hundreds of authors, including Jews, wrote about this; at that time, precisely the omission of mentioning the Jewish Question was considered a manifestation of anti-Semitism — and it would be unworthy for an historian of that era to pretend that that question did not exist. … My task is to write true historical research on the Russian Revolution. [emphasis added]

Solzhenitsyn, as is well known, did this and more. After publishing Two Hundred Years Together, Solzhenitsyn was accused of anti-Semitism for asserting that pogroms against Jews in Russia were rare, spontaneous, and originated “from below” rather than being government-sponsored. He was further accused of anti-Semitism for implying that Jews avoided conscription and, in particular, frontline military service. Both fall into the category of thought that Peterson dismisses in his essay as “conspiratorial claims based on ethnic identity.” And yet it’s a testament to the lingering vitality of the historical profession that more recent archival research and published studies (from Cambridge University Press and Princeton University Press) have vindicated both of Solzhenitsyn’s claims.[A4]See John Doyle Klier, Pogroms: Anti-Jewish Violence in Modern Russian History (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2008) and Derek J. Penslar, Jews and the Military: A History (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2013).

Peterson also caricatures the critique of Jews as being ignorant of the role of IQ. In reality, however, most historical ‘anti-Semites’ have struck a balance between the role of intelligence/capability in the acquisition by Jews of what may be termed sociopolitical gatekeeping positions, and the role of ethnocentrism in the further development and ultimate consequences of Jewish demographic over-representations resulting from Jews in these positions acting according to their perceived ethnic interests.

Solzhenitsyn, in Two Hundred Years Together, provides many examples where Jews were given equal opportunities based on ability and became over-represented in several key areas of public life. The most widespread and justified concerns, however, where not about how these over-representations were achieved, but about the potential consequences of Jewish over-representations in aspects of Russian life. In one example from 1870, Solzhenitsyn discusses the introduction of municipal reforms:

Initially it was proposed to restrict Jewish representation among town councillors and in the municipal executive councils by fifty percent, but because of objections by the Minister of Internal Affairs, the City Statute of 1870 had reduced the maximal share to one third; further, Jews were forbidden from occupying the post of mayor. It was feared that otherwise Jewish internal cohesion and self-segregation would allow them to obtain a leading role in town institutions and give them an advantage in resolution of public issues. [emphasis added]

Solzhenitsyn was also acutely aware of the role of revenge in Jewish political choices and actions. Regarding food shortages and famines, he notes:

What would you expect from peasants in the Tambov Guberniya if, during the heat of the suppression of the great peasant uprising in this Central-Russian black-earth region, the dismal den of the Tambov Gubcom was inhabited by masterminds of grain allotments, secretaries of Gubcom P. Raivid and Pinson, and by the head of the propaganda department, Eidman? (A. G. Shlikhter, whom we remember from Kiev in 1905, was there as well, this time as the chairman of the Executive Committee of the guberniya.) Y. Goldin was the Foodstuffs Commissar of the Tambov Guberniya; it was he who triggered the uprising by exorbitant confiscations of grain, whereas one N. Margolin, commander of a grain confiscation squad, was famous for whipping the peasants who failed to provide grain. (And he murdered them too.) According to Kakurin, who was the chief of staff to Tukhachevsky, a plenipotentiary representative of the Cheka headquarters in the Tambov Guberniya during that period was Lev Levin. Of course, not only Jews were in it! However, when Moscow took the suppression of the uprising into her own hands in February 1921, the supreme command of the operation was assigned to Efraim Sklyansky, the head of “Interdepartmental Anti-Banditry Commission,”—and so the peasants, notified about that with leaflets, were able to draw their own conclusions.

And what should we say about the genocide on the river Don, when hundreds of thousands of the flower of Don Cossacks were murdered? What should we expect from the Cossack memories when we take into consideration all those unsettled accounts between a revolutionary Jew and a Don Cossack? In August 1919, the Volunteer Army took Kiev and opened several Chekas and found the bodies of those recently executed; Shulgin composed nominal lists of victims using funeral announcements published in the reopened Kievlyanin; one can’t help noticing that almost all names were Slavic. … Materials produced by the Special Investigative Commission in the South of Russia provide insights into the Kiev Cheka and its command personnel (based on the testimony of a captured Cheka interrogator): “The headcount of the ‘Cheka’ staff varied between 150 and 300. … Percentage -wise, there was 75% Jews and 25% others, and those in charge were almost exclusively Jews.” Out of twenty members of the Commission, i.e., the top brass who determined people’s destinies, fourteen were Jews.

Peterson’s remark that “high IQ is associated with Openness to Experience, which is in turn associated with liberal/left-leaning political proclivities” is simply insufficient for a serious analysis of the fact that many intelligent and capable Jews cohered, as Jews, around each other in late-nineteenth-century Russia with the primary goal of destroying Russian culture and the Russian state, and engaging in the mass murder of perceived historical oppressors and enemies—something infinitely more extreme than the term “liberal/left-leaning political proclivities” could ever possibly convey. Solzhenitsyn cites I. O. Levin as writing:

There is no doubt that Jewish representation in the Bolshevik and other parties which facilitated “expanding of revolution” — Mensheviks, Socialist Revolutionaries, etc. — with respect to both general Jewish membership and Jewish presence among the leaders, greatly exceeds the Jewish share in the population of Russia. This is an indisputable fact; while its reasons should be debated, its factual veracity is unchallengeable and its denial is pointless; and a certainly convincing explanation of this phenomenon by Jewish inequality before the March revolution … is still not sufficiently exhaustive.

One could reasonably and similarly surmise that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn would concur with the assessment that Jordan Peterson’s explanation of Jewish “over-representation in positions of authority, competence and influence (including revolutionary movements)” as being due to the association of “high IQ with Openness to Experience, which is in turn associated with liberal/left-leaning political proclivities” is, to say the least, not sufficiently exhaustive. And it is at this point that we pass the floor to Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Part Two: Dostoevsky

Jordan Peterson references Fyodor Dostoevsky in almost every interview, talk, or text he delivers —perhaps even more than he refers to Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. His admiration for Dostoevsky is considerable and is made clear in 12 Rules for Life. In 12 Rules, Peterson refers to the Russian author as (p.68) “incomparable,” and (p.137) “a wise and profound soul” possessing “great generosity of spirit.” Peterson describes Crime and Punishment (p.83) as “perhaps the greatest novel ever written,” and Dostoevsky himself (p.136) as “one of the great literary geniuses of all time.” He adds to the latter praise that the author “confronted the most serious existential problems in all his great writings, and he did so courageously, headlong, and heedless of the consequences.”

Perhaps even more so that was the case with Solzhenitsyn, Fyodor Dostoevsky has been pilloried in recent decades as an ultra-nationalist anti-Semite who believed Jews “had harmed and continued to harm the foundations of Russian society and culture.

Peterson, it will be recalled, has described anti-Semites as individuals who “claim responsibility for the accomplishments of [the] group [they] feel racially/ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything [themselves].” Clearly an important point needs to be reconciled by Peterson: namely the outstanding literary accomplishments and political stances of Dostoevsky (even in Peterson’s own gushing estimation), and Peterson’s assertion that anti-Jewish critique rooted in nationalist sensibilities is merely a form of psychological escapism for those keen to avoid accomplishing anything for themselves. Surely it is self-evident that Dostoevsky, like Solzhenitsyn, was a man not only of accomplishment, but of remarkable, extraordinary accomplishment. What were Dostoevsky’s attitudes to Jews and the Jewish Question, and how would he respond to Jordan Peterson?

The two most septic academic treatments of the Russian author are David Goldstein’s 1981 Dostoyevsky and the Jews,[B1]David Goldstein, Dostoyevsky and the Jews (Austin: University of Texas Press, 1981).and Joseph Frank’s 2002 Dostoevsky, The Mantle of the Prophet, 1871–1881. Both writers exude Jewish identity in their treatment of Dostoevsky’s published and private writings on Jews, an emotionality that appears remarkably commonplace among Jews as a whole. Reviewing some material penned by Jews on the Russian writer, I was struck by their similarity to the fraught sensitivity of Anthony Julius to the work of T. S. Eliot. The core problem is that, while Jews (and also apparently Jordan Peterson) often comfort themselves with the delusion that their critics are intellectually and socially inferior, they appear to experience great psychological trauma when faced with the reality that their harshest and most insightful critics are often men of great ability and genius. An excellent example of this phenomenon, along with the Jewish obsession with historical enmities, can be observed in these comments, posted at a Jewish website as part of the question “Should a Jew read Dostoevsky?”:

There was a period, while I was in college I think, when I was very into Russian short-story writers and playwrights. I read quite a few, and was very impressed — until I came to Nikolai Gogol, and a story in which described the glory of the Cossacks. I couldn’t read any further; the Cossacks were murderous butchers who slaughtered my ancestors. Of course, if Jews were to shun all writers who hated us, we would be left with slim literary pickings; a quick thumbing through Allan Gould’s What did they think of the Jews? shows that we would lose a great deal of Western culture, including figures like Lord Byron and Joseph Conrad and Jack London.

Similarly, Haaretz writes of Joseph Frank’s Dostoevsky biography: “As a Jew, Frank cannot be nonchalant about the primitive anti-Semitic elements in Dostoevsky’s writing,” describing Frank’s exploration as a “painful saga.” This is fully in keeping with observations made in my 2014 essay “Reflections on Aspects of Jewish Self-Deception,” in which, referring especially to the works of academic activists Anthony Julius and Robert Wistrich, I noted:

Jewish-produced accounts of anti-Semitism often begin or conclude with maudlin claims that the subject is ‘difficult,’ ‘emotional,’ or ‘trying’ for them to approach. At the extreme end of the spectrum one finds Anthony Julius who describes studying the subject at the conclusion of Trials of the Diaspora: A History of Anti-Semitism in England as “immersing oneself in muck. Anti-Semitism is a sewer.” Wistrich refers to his “long-standing concern with the nature of anti-Semitism,” and describes his study of the subject as a “difficult enterprise,” which was “painful, often shocking.”

Goldstein and Frank, like Julius, are quite typical of Jewish literary critics who emerged from elite colleges in the mid-to-late twentieth century. In The Professionalization of History in English Canada (2005), Donald Wright notes that between the 1940s and early 1960s many WASP literary academics were taken aback by the aggressive and highly antagonistic attitude of their Jewish students. In just one example, a Canadian academic named Frank Underhill included in one student report the following comments: “He is a Jew, with a good deal of the Jew’s persecution complex, and this makes him unduly aggressive and sarcastic in discussion and writing.”[B2]Donald Wright, The Professionalization of History in English Canada (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2005), 95

Having read the majority of the offerings from Goldstein and Frank, I don’t think I could improve upon “unduly aggressive and sarcastic” as suitable descriptors. The same could be said of Peterson’s lazy dismissal of anti-Semitism as a tool of the unaccomplished.

Jews hardly feature in the fictional canon of Fyodor Dostoevsky, making him in some ways a less obvious target for attack than Solzhenitsyn, who was once berated by Jewish activist academic Mark Perakh because “a disproportionately large number of unattractive Jews appear in his work.” Perakh’s stance reminded me strongly of the activism of Anthony Julius in relation to representations of Jews in English literature. On this point, I’ve commented previously:

What Julius, and the horde of other Jewish literary ‘scholars,’ are really asserting here is their antagonism towards anything but positive reflections of Jews in literature, which is not only arrogant and unreasonable, but also further indication of a pathological level of ethnocentrism. Their efforts have the dual function of staining the legacy of the English literary past, and shackling authors in the present, who would feel constrained to avoid having a negatively portrayed Jewish character in their works.

The primary grounds for the Jewish attack on Dostoevsky appear to be the character of Isai Fomich Bumstein in The House of the Dead [for the sake of accuracy I should note my own 1980s Soviet Union edition/translation bears the less common title Notes from the Dead House]. It can be asserted with reasonable certainty that Isai Bumstein is Dostoevsky’s only real attempt to include a fully-fledged Jewish character in his works. Since The House of the Dead was strongly autobiographical, we can also assume that the character was based on a real Jew encountered by the author during his detention in a Siberian work camp. It appears, however, that Isai Bumstein, despite cutting a solitary figure, is one Jew too many for some.

Isai Fomich is described as the camp’s jeweler and foremost moneylender. A figure of fun, but with dark and even satanic undertones, Dostoevsky describes this, the only Jew in the camp, as “the spitting image of a plucked chicken. He was a man, no longer young, about fifty, short and weak, cunning yet positively stupid. He was arrogant, impudent, and at the same time a terrible coward.” Bumstein was confined to the jail for murder and uses his talent in making and trading jewelry to “wriggle out of his hard labour.” The book’s most extensive discussion of Bumstein takes place in the build up to a Dante-esque scene of claustrophobic horror in the local bath house, in which Bumstein takes a prominent and quasi-demonic role reminiscent of the Judge in the final act of Cormac McCarthy’s 1985 Blood Meridian (although no literary scholars seem to have discovered the link between the characters — despite McCarthy’s known affinity with Dostoevsky; further parallels between these two characters may be found in their unusually pale complexions, supernatural cunning, and numerous authorial allusions to their hairlessness).

Bumstein’s first act on entering the gaol is to barter for the “filthy, ragged summer trousers” of a fellow inmate, which he then takes in pawn and negotiates interest on. Sullen on entering the jail, he now “suddenly roused himself and started feeling the rags with his fingers in a most business-like manner. He even held them up to the light.” The deal concluded, “Isai Fomich re-examined the things he had taken in pawn, folded them carefully, and stowed them away inside his sack.” With the other inmates later in his thrall, he sings a song that he later confesses to be obliged to sing as a Jew in “moments of triumph over foes.”

Bumstein is described by Dostoevsky as having an easy time in confinement, enjoying privileges and all the trappings of elite status:

He was not at all hard up and, in fact, even lived quite prosperously, saving his money and lending it at interest to the whole prison. He had his own samovar, a good mattress, cups, and a complete set of crockery. The town Jews did not snub him and, on the contrary, they patronised him. On Saturdays, as allowed by the rules, he would go out under guard to the town’s synagogue.

Bumstein’s final appearance in the book takes place in the local bath house where eighty prisoners are essentially crushed into a space twelve paces by twelve where they must steam and wash themselves. The scene is oppressively and horrifically claustrophobic and is punctuated by the figure of Bumstein looming over all, “laughing his head off from the highest steam-shelf.” Impervious to the heat and noise bringing everyone else to near senselessness, “it seemed that no heat was enough to satisfy him.” The Jew uses his money to hire five attendants in succession to beat him with birch twigs, all of whom near the point of unconsciousness before rushing to revive themselves with cold water.

Bumstein “could indeed feel that he was indeed ‘on top’ of all the others. He had outdone them all. It was his moment of victory. And over all the noise, his shrill, mad voice was heard shouting out his aria: ‘La, la, la, la.’ It crossed my mind, that should we one day meet again in Hell, the scene would be very much the same.”

Dostoevsky’s The House of the Dead, like several of his other works, is indeed a work of literary genius. That such a great work also contains a very memorable, unflattering, and all too believable portrait of a work-shy Jewish moneylender is a source of much contemporary Jewish psychological disturbance. Another crucial problem is that, although Jewish criticisms have revolved around accusations of the employment of stereotypes, the book’s strong autobiographical origins, together with Dostoevsky’s commitment to realism, render the portrayal of Isai Fomich Bumstein all too difficult to dismiss or dispel. As this commentary in Haaretz concedes, “Dostoevsky, more than all the great authors of 19th-century Russia, derived his inspiration from real life, even from the front pages of the newspaper, to the point where the critics of his day felt that this excessive realism harmed his work.”

In “On the So-Called Jewish Question,” Jordan Peterson appears to contrast high IQ individuals who (relatedly) score highly on Openness to Experience and political liberalism with presumably lower IQ individuals who seeks solace for their personal lack of accomplishment in group identity, ethnic nationalisms, and, one assumes, anti-Semitism. Kevin MacDonald has already saliently pointed out that Israel is hardly typified by Openness to Experience and political liberalism, despite being populated with the group Peterson seems to regard as epitomizing the high IQ/Openness/liberalism trifecta. It’s interesting, though, that the life, career, and ideas of his hero Dostoevsky also offer a strong rebuttal to Peterson’s poorly thought out schema. Dostoevsky was certainly an ardent Russian nationalist with a keen sense of ethnic identity, but was also “perceived as a courageous and independent critic of the czarist government, unafraid of denouncing its misdeeds and corruption.” Dostoevsky was no blind authoritarian; and he was certainly no unaccomplished basement-dweller in search of identity.

In his later writings, published in his journal Diary of a Writer, Dostoevsky began to write with some regularity on Jews, and in at least one issue wrote at length specifically on the Jewish Question. The opinions put forth in these pieces contrast sharply with that offered by Prof. Peterson. In fact, Dostoevsky, reflecting arguments that were common in post-Enlightenment Europe, argues that it would be suicidal for Western civilization to abandon its religious, ethnic, and historical identities (White “identity politics”) in favor of modern fads (he names socialism, but one could as easily substitute Peterson’s dubious strain of liberalism).

[Jews] maintain their own close-knit identity. If the Jews are given equal legal rights in Russia, but are allowed to keep their ‘State within a State,’ they would be more privileged than the Russians. The consequences of this situation are already clear in Europe. … What if there were only three million Russians and there were eighty million Jews? How would they treat Russians and how would they lord it over them? What rights would Jews give Russians? Wouldn’t they turn them into slaves? Worse than that, wouldn’t they skin them altogether? Wouldn’t they slaughter them to the last man, to the point of complete extermination? … When only anarchy remains, the Yid will be in command of everything. For while the Jew goes about preaching socialism, he will stick together with his own.

Offering Jews full citizenship rights would be beneficial for Jews because they would still operate as a cohesive group in a nominally individualist society. This goes to the heart of Peterson’s liberal/individualist ideology. It can only work if everyone adopts it. When cohesive, ethnically networked and highly competent groups with their own interests remain in a nominally individualist society, they easily dominate the individualists and are able to shape the culture to conform to their interests. These interests need not, and often are not (e.g., policy toward Israel, mass immigration of non-White ethnic groups), the same as the interests of the individualists.

And on that note, we make way for Carl Jung.

Part Three: Jung

Jordan Peterson references Carl Jung in almost every interview, talk, or text he delivers, and these references are especially frequent in his lecture series on the Biblical stories. In 12 Rules for Life (p.131), Peterson describes Jung as both a “great psychiatrist” and a “psychoanalyst extraordinaire.” Jung’s ideas about the subconscious and archetypes form the backbone of much of Peterson’s self-concept and public work. One therefore wonders what Jung would have made of Jordan Peterson’s “On the So-Called Jewish Question.”

To begin with, Jung would almost certainly object to Peterson’s implicit assumption that Jews are easily integrated parts in the machinery of Western civilization, equal or even superior in suitability to all others. Jung believed that Jews, like all peoples, have a characteristic personality, and he would have stressed the need to take this personality into account. Even in his own sphere of expertise, Jung warned that “Freud and Adler’s psychologies were specifically Jewish, and therefore not legitimate for Aryans.”[C1]B. Cohen, “Jung’s Answer to Jews,” Jung Journal: Culture and Psyche, 6:1 (56-71), 59. A formative factor in the Jewish personality was the rootlessness of the Jews and the persistence of the Diaspora. Jung argued that Jews lacked a “chthontic quality,” meaning “The Jew … is badly at a loss for that quality in man which roots him to the earth and draws new strength from below.”[C2]Ibid, 58.
(B. Cohen, “Jung’s Answer to Jews,” Jung Journal: Culture and Psyche, 6:1 (56-71), 59.)
Jung penned these words in 1918, but they retain significance even after the founding of the State of Israel. Even today, vastly more Jews live outside Israel than within it. Jews remain a Diaspora people, and many continue to see their Diaspora status as a strength. Because they are scattered and rootless, however, Jung argued that Jews developed methods of getting on in the world that are built on exploiting weakness in others rather than expressing explicit strength. In Jung’s phrasing, “The Jews have this particularity in common with women; being physically weaker, they have to aim at the chinks in the armour of their adversary.”[C3]Ibid.
(B. Cohen, “Jung’s Answer to Jews,” Jung Journal: Culture and Psyche, 6:1 (56-71), 59.)

Jung would probably have been doubtful regarding Peterson’s claims that Jews obtain positions of influence solely on their intellectual merits and because they score high on Openness to Experience. Jung believed that Jews were incapable of operating effectively without a host society, and that they relied heavily upon grafting themselves into the systems of other peoples in order to succeed. In a 1934 essay titled ‘The state of psychotherapy today,’ Jung wrote: “The Jew, who is something of a nomad, has never yet created a cultural form of his own, and as far as we can see, never will, since all his instincts and talents require a more or less civilized nation to act as host for their development.” This process of group development often involved ‘aiming at the chinks in the armour of their adversary,’ along with other flexible strategies.[C4]T. Kirsch, “Jung’s Relationship with Jews and Judaism,” in Analysis and Activism: Social and Political Contributions of Jungian Psychology (London: Routledge, ), 174.

Jung also believed (in common with a finding in Kevin MacDonald’s work) that there was a certain psychological aggressiveness in Jews, which was partly a result of the internal mechanics of Judaism. In a remarkably prescient set of observations in the 1950s, Jung expressed distaste for the behavior of Jewish women and essentially predicted the rise of feminism as a symptom of the pathological Jewess. Jung believed that Jewish men were “brides of Yahweh,” rendering Jewish women more or less obsolete within Judaism. In reaction, argued Jung, Jewish women in the early twentieth century began aggressively venting their frustrations against the male-centric nature of Judaism (and against the host society as a whole) while still conforming to the characteristic Jewish psychology and its related strategies. Writing to Martha Bernays, Freud’s wife, he once remarked of Jewish women that “so many of them are loud, aren’t they?” and later added he had treated “very many Jewish women — in all these women there is a loss of individuality, either too much or too little. But the compensation is always for the lack. That is to say, not the right attitude.”[C5]Ibid, 177.
(T. Kirsch, “Jung’s Relationship with Jews and Judaism,” in Analysis and Activism: Social and Political Contributions of Jungian Psychology (London: Routledge, ), 174.)

It is likely that Jung would also have taken issue with the spirit of Peterson’s brief essay; namely, that it takes the form of a smug defense of Jews against alleged anti-Semitism. Peterson clearly locates Kevin MacDonald’s analysis of Jewish group behavior through history in the realm of “reactionary conspiracy theories.” Jung, meanwhile, was cautious about accusations of anti-Semitism, and he was “critical of the oversensitivity of Jews to anti-Semitism,” believing “one cannot criticise an individual Jew without it immediately becoming an anti-Semitic attack.”[C6]T. Kirsch, “Jung and Judaism,” Jung Journal: Culture and Psyche, 6:1 (6-7), 6. It is certainly difficult to believe that Jung, who basically argued that Jews had a unique psychological profile and had developed a unique method for getting on in the world, would have disagreed with the almost identical foundational premise of Kevin MacDonald’s trilogy. In fact, Jung believed that playing the victim and utilizing accusations of anti-Semitism as a sword against their critics were simply parts of the Jewish strategy—a useful cover for concerted ethnocentric action in “aiming at the chinks in the armour of their adversary.” For example, after the war, in a 1945 letter to Mary Mellon, he wrote, “It is however difficult to mention the anti-Christianism of the Jews after the horrible things that have happened in Germany. But Jews are not so damned innocent after all—the role played by the intellectual Jews in pre-war Germany would be an interesting object of investigation”[C7]S. Zemmelman (2017). “Inching towards wholeness: C.G. Jung and his relationship to Judaism.” Journal of Analytical Psychology, 62(2), 247–262. Indeed, MacDonald notes:

a prominent feature of anti-Semitism among the Social Conservatives and racial anti-Semites in Germany from 1870 to 1933 was their belief that Jews were instrumental in developing ideas that subverted traditional German attitudes and beliefs. Jews were vastly overrepresented as editors and writers during the 1920s in Germany, and “a more general cause of increased anti-Semitism was the very strong and unfortunate propensity of dissident Jews to attack national institutions and customs in both socialist and non-socialist publications” (Gordon 1984, 51).[C7a]As anti-Semitism increased during the Weimar period, Jewish-owned liberal newspapers began to suffer economic hardship because of public hostility to the ethnic composition of the editorial boards and staffs (Mosse 1987, 371). The response of Hans Lachman-Mosse was to “depoliticize” his newspapers by firing large numbers of Jewish editors and correspondents. Eksteins (1975, 229) suggests that the response was an attempt to deflect right-wing categorizations of his newspapers as part of the Judenpresse. This “media violence” directed at German culture by Jewish writers such as Kurt Tucholsky—who “wore his subversive heart on his sleeve” (Pulzer 1979, 97)—was publicized widely by the anti-Semitic press (Johnson 1988, 476–477).

Jews were not simply overrepresented among radical journalists, intellectuals, and “producers of culture” in Weimar Germany, they essentially created these movements. “They violently attacked everything about German society. They despised the military, the judiciary, and the middle class in general” (Rothman & Lichter 1982, 85). Massing (1949, 84) notes the perception of the anti-Semite Adolf Stoecker of Jewish “lack of reverence for the Christian-conservative world.” (The Culture of Critique, Ch. 1)

These sentiments largely echoed comments Jung made in November 1933 to Esther Harding, in which he expressed the opinion that Jews had clustered in Weimar Germany because they tend to “fish in troubled waters,” by which he meant that Jews tend to congregate where social decay is ongoing. He remarked that he had personally observed German Jews drinking champagne in Montreaux (Switzerland) while “Germany was starving,” and that while “very few had been expelled” and “Jewish shops in Berlin went on the same,” if there was a rising hardship among them in Germany it was because “overall the Jews deserved it.”[C8]See W. Schoenl and L. Schoenl, Jung’s Evolving View of Nazi Germany: From the Nazi Takeover to the End of World War II (Asheville: Chiron, 2016). Perhaps most interesting of all in any discussion of Jewish acquisition of influence, it appears that in 1944 Jung oversaw the implementation of quotas on Jewish admission to the Analytical Psychology Club of Zurich. The quotas (a generous 10% of full members and 25% for guest members) were inserted into a secret appendix to the by-laws of the club and remained in place until 1950.[C9]S. Frosh (2005). “Jung and the Nazis: Some Implications for Psychoanalysis.” Psychoanalysis and History, 7(2), (253–271), 258. One can only assume that, like other quotas introduced around the world at various times, the goal here was to limit, or at least retain some measure of control over, Jewish numerical and directional influence within that body.

Although he was, like Peterson, a proponent of psychological individuation and the cultivation of the individual subconscious, Jung would be unlikely to agree with Jordan Peterson’s dismissal of “identity politics.” Jung in fact believed that mass national movements under strong leaders could pave the way for energetic rebirth and renewal. In a radio broadcast from Berlin in 1933 he remarked:

Times of mass movement are always times of leadership. Every movement culminates organically in a leader, who embodies in his whole being the meaning and purpose of the popular movement. He is an incarnation of the nation’s psyche and its mouthpiece. He is the spearhead of the phalanx of the whole people in motion.[C10]S. Frosh. (2005). “Jung and the Nazis: Some Implications for Psychoanalysis.” Psychoanalysis and History, 7(2), (253–271), 257.

In fact, Jung believed that “identity politics” was a positive that should be pursed to exclusionary lengths, and that multiculturalism would have potentially disastrous effects on Whites. For example, having spent some time examining the state of mental health in the United States, Jung attributed the “American complex” to the fact Whites were “living together with ‘lower races, especially with Negroes’.”[C11]N. R. Goldenberg, “Reply to Barbara Chesser’s Comment on “A Feminist Critique of Jung” Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society, 3: 3 (1978), 724. Jung undertook two trips to Africa with the express purpose of studying what he viewed as the most “primitive” human psychologies.[C12]Adams, M. V. (1997). “Jung and Racism.” Self & Society, 25(1), 19–23. He afterwards asserted that “there is a danger in the mixture of races,” that the mulatto is “apt to be a bad character,” and that “miscegenation is the cause of many cases of insanity.”[C13]Ibid.
(Adams, M. V. (1997). “Jung and Racism.” Self & Society, 25(1), 19–23.)
Many Whites living among Blacks are confronted with a “source of temperamental and mimetic infection,” by which he means that the former will too readily begin to adopt the negative behaviors of the latter—a type of cultural contagion.

Conversely, for the astute, interacting with Africans and thoughtfully observing the deep differences between the races could provide a positive reinforcement of identity. Jung himself remarked that, while travelling through Africa, “I could not help feeling superior, as I was reminded at every step of my European nature.”[C14]J. Collins. (2009). “SHADOW SELVES.” Interventions, 11(1), 69–80.

This is a striking comment because it expresses the fact that the sense of racial difference is something that impresses itself on the subject from an external experience. This contrasts radically with post-modern and psychoanalytic theories of racial thought and “race prejudice,” which root the sense of racial difference in the inner world of the subject. This latter way of thinking is most radically the case in Jean-Paul Sartre’s Anti-Semite and Jew, where the French philosopher argues that the anti-Semite is not someone struck by the observation and experience of Jewish behavior, but rather someone whose inner anxieties and inadequacies drive the search for an external cause onto which to project the inner flaws. This is both pseudo-science and pseudo-psychology.

Examining Jordan Peterson’s assessment of the Jewish Question, we can only conclude once more that Peterson’s ideas share more in common with the post-modernist thought he claims to struggle against, than with the traditional Western intellectual tradition he claims to defend. Just to reiterate, this is Peterson’s account of the origins of anti-Semitism in the individual:

You can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your group you feel racially/ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself. That’s convenient. You can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously. Another unearned victory. You simplify your world radically, as well. All the problems you face now have a cause, and a single one, so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail. Bonus. Furthermore, and most reprehensibly: you now have someone to hate (and, what’s worse, with a good conscience) so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly can find a target, and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution.

This could have been lifted directly from Sartre, Horkheimer, or Adorno. It’s pure Jewish psychoanalysis, mobilized for political ends. And it is the kind of thought that provides legitimacy and ideological firepower to the marginalization of White interests and the continuation of White cultural collapse.

Jung, of course, remained for a long time disturbed about the potential for such a cultural collapse among Whites, and he was particularly anxious about the experience of Whites forced to co-habit with large African populations. He warned: “the European, however highly developed, cannot live in impunity among the Negroes. … Their psychology gets into him unnoticed and unconsciously he becomes a Negro. There is no fighting against it.”[15] “Identity politics,” with ethno-racial foundations was, to Jung, a matter of racial and civilizational survival.

We turn finally to Friedrich Nietzsche.

Part Four: Nietzsche

Like these other figures, whose thought is sanitized and claimed by Peterson, Nietzsche possessed views of Jews quite at odds with Peterson’s own hasty conclusions. Robert Holub’s 2015 Nietzsche’s Jewish Problem: Between Anti-Semitism and Anti-Judaism (Princeton University Press) convincingly demonstrates that, at best, Nietzsche could be described as ambivalent towards the Jewish Question. Nietzsche was undeniably in tune with Wagner when it came to animosity towards those aspects of modernity most closely linked with the rise of the Jews in Germany: the hegemony of journalists, the press, newspapers, new ‘trends’ in art, and the stock market. He was a critic of both Berthold Auerbach and Felix Mendelssohn, whom he argued produced works typified by foreignness, jargon, mawkishness and internationalism. At Basel, one of Nietzsche’s closest colleagues was the historian Jacob Burckhardt, described in one dedication as “my honored friend.” Burckhardt was unequivocally opposed to Jewish emancipation and believed that everything of worth in European culture was due to its Greek and Roman heritage rather than the Jewish tradition. He would have balked at the idea of Europe as a ‘Judeo-Christian’ cultural entity—a favorite piece of Jordan Peterson’s nomenclature—and he was firmly convinced that Jews were responsible for the worst manifestations of modernity. Early in his career Burckhardt wrote to a friend that the presence of Jews in a theater would be sufficient to entirely destroy his enjoyment of the event.

Like the others reviewed here, Peterson references Friedrich Nietzsche in almost every interview, talk, or text he delivers. In 12 Rules for Life (p.59), Peterson describes Nietzsche as both “great” and “brilliant,” and calls him (p.85) “perhaps the most astute critic ever to confront Christianity.” In much the same way as he cites Solzhenitsyn, Dostoevsky, and Jung as his ideological forerunners, Peterson holds up Nietzsche as a prescient and thoughtful thinker whose work was characterized (p.37) by its “brilliance.”

Between 1868 and 1873 Nietzsche gained a grasp of the fundamentals of the Jewish Question, and during this period he continually articulates a natural and impulsive distaste for aspects of Jewish culture and behavior. His letters to his mother show that he associated Jews with unsavory business practices, tastelessness, and low cultural attributes. Writing to his mother about a tour around Switzerland in 1872, he describes his fellow travelers before commenting “unfortunately there was a Jew among them.” In 1872 these feelings and ideas came closest to intellectual expression. In January and February of that year Nietzsche delivered two lectures, ‘The Greek Music Drama’ and ‘Socrates and Tragedy.’ Despite their fairly innocuous titles, the lectures dealt with key aspects of the Wagnerian cultural program: that modern opera had become greatly distanced from its ancient cultural roots, and that Jews were having a deleterious impact on contemporary art and culture. Nietzsche, taking his cue from Wagner, argued that genuine tragedy was mysterious, instinctive and profound. It was also able to be conceived and appreciated only by Europeans. By contrast, ‘Socratism,’ identified with rationalism and dialectic, eradicates instinct and with it art. ‘Socratism’ had also become a historical force in its own right, in the form of this-worldly Judaism. Nietzsche would conclude his second lecture by stating:

Should the Teuton have nothing else to place at the side of that vanished artwork of the past except the ‘grand opera,’ something akin to the ape appearing next to Hercules? This is the most serious question of our art: and anyone who, as a Teuton, does not understand the seriousness of this question, has fallen into the Socratism of our times, which, to be sure, is neither capable of producing martyrs, nor speaks the language of the wisest Hellene. This Socratism is the Jewish press: I’ll say no more.

Wagner had of course taken even further steps against Jewish influence — but the older man possessed significantly more stature and legitimacy. Nietzsche sent his lecture notes to Wagner on February 4, and the composer replied cautiously. Wagner, who was fully aware of the damage that could be wrought by Jews on lone targets like himself, responded: “I say to you: that’s the way it is. … But I am concerned about you, and wish with my entire heart that you don’t ruin yourself.” The important point here is that the framework for discussion is not about how Jews obtained elite status in society but about what Jews tend to do with their elite status and influence. To the Wagners, as with Solzhenitsyn, Dostoevsky, and Jung, the Jewish Question is primarily about the hostility or culturally antagonistic behavior of a powerful Jewish elite. This contrasts sharply with Jordan Peterson’s statement that Jews are “smart people working hard for our mutual advancement.”

Cosima, Wagner’s wife, wrote to Nietzsche expressing concern. Starting by citing Goethe (“Everything significant is uncomfortable”), she said that his “boldness” and “bluntness” surprised her. In a later letter she makes her concerns more explicit, stating that she wanted him to take some “maternal” advice so that he should “avoid stirring up a hornet’s nest”:

Do you really understand me? Don’t mention the Jews, and especially not en passant; later, when you want to take up this gruesome fight, in the name of God, but not at the very outset, so that on your path you won’t have all this confusion and upheaval. I hope you don’t misunderstand me: you know that in the depths of my soul I agree with your utterance. But not now and not in this way.

According to Cosima’s diaries, Nietzsche was summoned to a meeting with Wagner and her on February 12 to discuss the lecture. We can only speculate at what precisely was said, but Nietzsche dropped the Jewish reference from the published version of his lecture, and nothing similar to it would ever again appear in his speeches or published writings. He would continue to attack the evils of the press, newspapers, financial affairs, the stock exchange, modernity, urban life, and cosmopolitanism but he would never again mention them in conjunction with Jews or Judaism. Holub argues that the episode taught Nietzsche that he should not mention the Jews by name and certainly not attack them in print. He would thereafter adopt the same “cultural code” that many anti-Jewish intellectuals were forced to utilize as a means of fighting the culture war without being labelled “anti-Semitic.”

Ultimately, however, the greatest of Nietzsche’s “replies” to Jordan Peterson may lie in his personal example. Like Jordan Peterson, Nietzsche came to surround himself with Jewish fans, and courted Jews with occasionally exuberant philo-Semitic statements. Nietzsche also possessed an ego and arrogance that led to antagonism towards Wagner, his artistic mentor, rather than appreciation for sage advice. Nietzsche distanced himself from Wagner and from the Jewish Question for the remainder of his life, beginning in the mid-1870s. In early drafts of Untimely Meditations (1876) probably dating to around 1874, Nietzsche searched for criticisms of the composer. Among them was the accusation that Wagner was a tyrant who could not appreciate the validity of anyone but those among his most trusted associates, causing him to be blind to “the validity of Brahms, etc., or the Jews.” He also accused Wagner, ironically in view of the latter’s crucial advice, of a grave political error in attacking the Jews “who now possess the most money and the press in Germany.”

The point here is that one can secretly be aware of Jewish power, and even agree that it is often expressed negatively, but still follow a philo-Semitic path for personal advancement. Nietzsche’s example here is fitting. His dedication to Voltaire of Human, All Too Human (1878–1880) marked the final stage of his break from the Wagnerian cultural mission. The rationalist Frenchman was anathema to the German romantic. The Wagners read the book, only to find it “strangely perverse” and full of “pretentious ordinariness.” The reason behind the change in quality of Nietzsche’s writing was, in their opinion, his growing association with the Jewish philosophy student Paul Rée. The association dated back to 1873, and Rée had accompanied Nietzsche on visits to the Wagners on a couple of occasions during those years. However, in 1876 Cosima’s suspicions were raised by aspects of Rée’s personality. In October 1876 she wrote in her diary: “In the evening we are visited by Dr. Rée, whose cold and precise character does not appeal to us; on closer inspection we come to the conclusion that he must be an Israelite.”

Wagner was extremely insistent that the Jew had ensnared his young former friend. Cosima around this date wrote to her husband that Nietzsche was essentially just a mirror that reflected the ideas or thoughts of whoever surrounded him. Nietzsche’s writings, borrowing heavily from Schopenauer and indeed Wagner himself, were “just reflections of something else, they did not come from within.” Wagner replied magnificently: “And now they are Rée-flections.” Cosima would later write to a friend that Human, All Too Human bore an undeniable Jewish imprint:

The author has undergone a process that I saw coming for a long time, and that I struggled against with my meagre powers. Many things came together to produce that deplorable book! Finally, Israel intervened in the form of a Dr. Rée, very sleek, very cool, at the same time being captivated by Nietzsche and dominated by him, though actually outwitting him: the relationship of Judea to Germania in miniature. … I know that here evil has been victorious. … Wagner himself asserts about Nietzsche that a flower could have come from this bulb. Now only the bulb remains, really a loathsome thing.

Like Nietzsche, Jordan Peterson appears to have heavily associated with Jews for some time, a fact that may have caused Peterson to engage in his own “Rée-flections.” The foreword to 12 Rules for Life was written by a Jewish man named Norman Doidge, who met Peterson at a party organized by Jews Wodek Szemberg and Estera Bekier. As a piece of writing, it is highly patronizing and places Peterson fully within the category of useful goy. He is also presented as a rough-edged, quasi-rural figure in contrast with the ordinarily sophisticated and, one assumes, Jewish urbanites who normally attended such parties. To Doidge, Peterson “had the enthusiasm of a kid,” and “there was something boyish in the cowboy.” Indeed, Doidge uses the phrases “cowboy,” “rural,” “folksy,” and even “cowboy psychologist” more than ten times in five paragraphs (p.9), which is really an extraordinary set of descriptors for someone who, to “goy eyes” doesn’t merit any of these descriptions and doesn’t appear remotely “of the land.” That he evokes such sensations and impressions in Jews, however, is extremely interesting in showing that Jews see Peterson as the quintessential “other”—as a paradigmatic goy.

This is not to say that the foreword is not flattering of Peterson. It is. But the ways in which it is flattering are interesting to say the least. Take, for example, Doidge’s remark that he “had never before met a person, born Christian and of my generation, who was so utterly tormented by what happened in Europe to the Jews, and who had worked so hard to understand how it could have occurred.” How has Peterson “worked so hard to understand how it could have occurred”? Thus far, he appears to have written less than 2,000 words regurgitating Sartre, devoid of footnotes illustrating any serious reading in the subjects of Jewish history or anti-Semitism. “Working hard,” we must assume, is in reference less to gaining an understanding of historical European-Jewish relations than advancing an understanding of Jewish victimhood and blamelessness—an understanding that Jews of course find highly beneficial.

Peterson is a favorite of Quillette, an online magazine founded by Jewish academic Claire Lehmann that postures as advocating for “free thought” and putatively ‘dangerous’ and ‘subversive’ conservative ideas. In reality, Quillette, which has promoted the paper-thin analyses of Kevin MacDonald by Nathan Cofnas (without allowing MacDonald to reply), advances standard neoconservativism and has posted a large number of articles condemning anti-Semitism (see, for example, here, here, and here) and defending Israel (see their archive here). The magazine should best be seen as a stellar example of a growing phenomenon I’ve discussed previously—a slow shift of Jews from the traditional Left (where extensive, unpredictable anti-Israel sentiment is making it a cold house for Jews), to a new milquetoast center that defends and promotes Israel, babbles about free speech, and attracts the unsophisticated with token gestures to the Right (opposition to the more extreme expressions of the LGBT agenda, objections to trans terminology, and baiting the odd Muslim) without ever broaching matters of race or immigration in a meaningful way, and certainly without ever acknowledging the Jewish Question as a reality. Indeed, in a telling turn of events that brings us almost full circle, Quillette posts pieces from the Russian-Jewish writer Cathy Young (born Ekaterina Jung), who has previously written an article attacking “the anti-Semitism of Alexander Solzhenitsyn.” Such facts illuminate the sheer oddity of Peterson’s role in these matters—a figure just edgy enough to attract the masses without endangering the status quo; just compliant enough to merit promotion; and just enough of a “folksy cowboy” to entangle himself with a clique that trashes his own heroes because they weren’t quite so compliant.

I’ve written previously that a key weakness of Nietzsche appears to have been his incomplete understanding of the nature of Jewish influence in German culture and society, and his egotistic willingness to accept Jews as friends and associates if he perceived them to be useful in advancing his own personal fame and fortunes. Perhaps, the best assessment of, and reply to, Jordan Peterson thus comes via Nietzsche, from the Wagners:

A flower could have come from this bulb. Now only the bulb remains, really a loathsome thing.

Notes

[A1] Jung is perhaps the most important figure in Peterson’s thought, understandable given their overlapping professional interest in psychology and psychoanalysis. The Canadian has most notably brought these interests to bear in his series of lectures on the psychological significance of the Biblical stories.

[A2] All quotes taken from Anthony Storr (ed), The Essential Jung: Selected Writings (London: Fontana, 1998). These traits are so manifest that Europeans/Christians have struggled for many centuries with their distaste for the God of the Old Testament. An excellent recent example of the Christian attempt to wrestle with this problem, and an overview of the history of debate on the issue, is Paul Copan and Matthew Flannagan’s Did God Really Command Genocide? Coming to Terms with the Justice of God (Michigan: Baker Books, 2014).

[A3] Baron, S. W. (1934). “The Historical Outlook of Maimonides.” Proceedings of the American Academy for Jewish Research, Vol. 6, No. 5, 24.

[A4] See John Doyle Klier, Pogroms: Anti-Jewish Violence in Modern Russian History (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2008) and Derek J. Penslar, Jews and the Military: A History (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2013).

[B1] David Goldstein, Dostoyevsky and the Jews (Austin: University of Texas Press, 1981).

[B2] Donald Wright, The Professionalization of History in English Canada (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2005), 95

[C1] B. Cohen, “Jung’s Answer to Jews,” Jung Journal: Culture and Psyche, 6:1 (56-71), 59.

[C2] Ibid, 58.

[C3] Ibid.

[C4] T. Kirsch, “Jung’s Relationship with Jews and Judaism,” in Analysis and Activism: Social and Political Contributions of Jungian Psychology (London: Routledge, ), 174.

[C5] Ibid, 177.

[C6] T. Kirsch, “Jung and Judaism,” Jung Journal: Culture and Psyche, 6:1 (6-7), 6.

[C7] S. Zemmelman (2017). “Inching towards wholeness: C.G. Jung and his relationship to Judaism.” Journal of Analytical Psychology, 62(2), 247–262.

[C7a] As anti-Semitism increased during the Weimar period, Jewish-owned liberal newspapers began to suffer economic hardship because of public hostility to the ethnic composition of the editorial boards and staffs (Mosse 1987, 371). The response of Hans Lachman-Mosse was to “depoliticize” his newspapers by firing large numbers of Jewish editors and correspondents. Eksteins (1975, 229) suggests that the response was an attempt to deflect right-wing categorizations of his newspapers as part of the Judenpresse.

[C8] See W. Schoenl and L. Schoenl, Jung’s Evolving View of Nazi Germany: From the Nazi Takeover to the End of World War II (Asheville: Chiron, 2016).

[C9] S. Frosh (2005). “Jung and the Nazis: Some Implications for Psychoanalysis.” Psychoanalysis and History, 7(2), (253–271), 258.

[C10] S. Frosh. (2005). “Jung and the Nazis: Some Implications for Psychoanalysis.” Psychoanalysis and History, 7(2), (253–271), 257.

[C11] N. R. Goldenberg, “Reply to Barbara Chesser’s Comment on “A Feminist Critique of Jung” Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society, 3: 3 (1978), 724.

[C12] Adams, M. V. (1997). “Jung and Racism.” Self & Society, 25(1), 19–23.

[C13] Ibid.

[C14] J. Collins. (2009). “SHADOW SELVES.” Interventions, 11(1), 69–80.

[C15] Ibid.

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  1. This fascinating article reminded me of my youthful encounters with the John Birch Society. Its conspiracy theories seemed counter-intuitive. Why on earth would businessmen subsidize the Marxists that hated them? If I recall correctly, JBS didn’t say much if anything about Judaism and it seemed like they took pains to avoid seeming anti-Semitic. Yet their theories made far more sense to me when I began to view Marxism (excluding its Asian offshoots) as a form of particularly nasty anti-gentilism. I certainly don’t view all Jews as villainous but they’re not uniformly innocent, either.

  2. Svigor says:

    I’ll drop this here – more people need to watch it:

    Jordan Peterson’s Fancy Backswing

    This is certainly the case with the Book of Exodus. Peterson glosses over the barbarism of the Moses character and seems oblivious to evidence strongly suggesting the book was constructed as a response to a proliferation of Greek-Egyptian narratives in the third century B.C. about the eviction of subversive foreigners from the historical Nile Delta.

    I’m shocked, shocked I tell u.

    He was further accused of anti-Semitism for implying that Jews avoided conscription and, in particular, frontline military service.

    When Jews make complaints like this, what they’re really mad about is the underlying goyische value; in this case, valuing military service, doing one’s civic duty in the military. It’s obviously true that Jews are profoundly underrepresented in the US military today – their rate of enrollment is something like 1/10th their share of the population.

    Peterson also caricatures the critique of Jews as being ignorant of the role of IQ. In reality, however, most historical ‘anti-Semites’ have struck a balance between the role of intelligence/capability in the acquisition by Jews of what may be termed sociopolitical gatekeeping positions, and the role of ethnocentrism in the further development and ultimate consequences of Jewish demographic over-representations resulting from Jews in these positions acting according to their perceived ethnic interests.

    I guess you could say that wanting to dominate the opinion-making organs of White society in order to control that society is a manifestation of Jewish IQ, focused through the lens of ethnocentrism.

    But that’s “ANTI-SEMITIC!!!” too.

    The most widespread and justified concerns, however, where not about how these over-representations were achieved, but about the potential consequences of Jewish over-representations in aspects of Russian life. In one example from 1870, Solzhenitsyn discusses the introduction of municipal reforms

    Precisely. It is a simple fact that Jews always abuse their power when they live among us.

    and so the peasants, notified about that with leaflets, were able to draw their own conclusions.

    Oy vey, the dark days before mass media indoctrination!

    Peterson’s remark that “high IQ is associated with Openness to Experience, which is in turn associated with liberal/left-leaning political proclivities” is simply insufficient for a serious analysis of the fact that many intelligent and capable Jews cohered, as Jews, around each other in late-nineteenth-century Russia with the primary goal of destroying Russian culture and the Russian state, and engaging in the mass murder of perceived historical oppressors and enemies—something infinitely more extreme than the term “liberal/left-leaning political proclivities” could ever possibly convey. Solzhenitsyn cites I. O. Levin as writing:

    Hahahahaha Jews open-minded hahahahahaha still laughing leftists open-minded hahahahahaha OMFG my sides hurt make it stop

    What a fucking buffoon.

  3. Svigor says:

    This is a striking comment because it expresses the fact that the sense of racial difference is something that impresses itself on the subject from an external experience. This contrasts radically with post-modern and psychoanalytic theories of racial thought and “race prejudice,” which root the sense of racial difference in the inner world of the subject. This latter way of thinking is most radically the case in Jean-Paul Sartre’s Anti-Semite and Jew, where the French philosopher argues that the anti-Semite is not someone struck by the observation and experience of Jewish behavior, but rather someone whose inner anxieties and inadequacies drive the search for an external cause onto which to project the inner flaws. This is both pseudo-science and pseudo-psychology.

    The fundamental problem with these facile Jewish excuses is that they are built on the stupid idea that “ANTI-SEMITISM!!!” is the easy way out. It takes a childish or cowardly mind to believe this. W…T…F is easy about “ANTI-SEMITISM!!!”? It really takes a self-obsessed mind, lacking introspection (say, the average Jew’s), to bandy about “ideas” like this.

    You can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your group you feel racially/ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself. (Like Jews do) That’s convenient. You can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously. (Like Jews do) Another unearned victory. (Like Jews are fond of) You simplify your world radically, as well (Like Jews do). All the problems you face now have a cause, and a single one, so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail. (Like Jews do) Bonus. Furthermore, and most reprehensibly: you now have someone to hate (and, what’s worse, with a good conscience) so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly can find a target, and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution. (Like Jews do)

    This could have been lifted directly from Sartre, Horkheimer, or Adorno. It’s pure Jewish psychoanalysis, mobilized for political ends.

    It’s pure Jewish projection, regurgitated by Peterson.

  4. Svigor says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    I certainly don’t view all Jews as villainous but they’re not uniformly innocent, either.

    I tend not to make these sorts of statements anymore. They seem conciliatory toward a people that need to be more conciliatory toward us, not the other way around. Plus they should go without saying, but for the fact that Jews have a dishonest style of “arguing” that includes straw men like “ANTI-SEMITES think of all Jews as evil demons!”

    Jews tend not to give a shit; they never bother to ask me who’s on my Righteous Jews list. Goy cucks don’t ask, either. And frankly I’m well beyond caring what either group thinks.

    Jews will adopt a more measured tone with us when we force them to, and not before. Bending over backwards to sound fair and moderate won’t do it.

    • Agree: Them Guys, AndrewR, Druid
  5. I heavily recommend both Peterson and Joyce.

    One thing about them that hardly anyone understands is how they both work within the perennial tradition. You’ll get them almost immediately if you’re into occultism, or the periphery.

    They do have their flaws (and flows), as do we all.

    • Replies: @Hardcore Libertardian
  6. anon[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Jews will adopt a more measured tone with us when we force them to, and not before.

    the bully sees no need for introspection until you punch him in the nose about 25 times

    • Agree: Svigor
  7. @Fidelios Automata

    I find it rather annoying that so many of us feel the need to explain that “not all Jews are like that.” As if that were the relevant question.

    How many Japanese made the decision to bomb Pearl Harbor? Fewer than a dozen. Yet when the news was announced all Americans ever heard was that “the damned Japs” bombed us. All 70 million of them.

    I’m sure if it had been put to a vote, the vast majority of Japanese would’ve voted NO. But the fact that they accepted the decision of their leaders made them “accessories after the fact.”

    Not every single Jew has to be a cultural and political subversive. There only needs to be enough general support for the monstrous decisions of their leaders to give tacit consent to their crimes. Usually appealing for unity in the face of anti-Semitism, like today’s shooting in Pittsburgh, is enough to bring the little yittles into line.

    As for the Birchers, someone should’ve reminded them of Occam’s Razor. It would have saved them a lot of ridicule, and only a little more abuse than they got anyway.

    • Agree: Svigor
  8. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Peterson silent on silencing of Gab.

    And everyone in media egging on corporations to shut down Gab.

    It goes to show that the US is not a democracy but a Zionist ethno-monopoly.

    Speaking of Hate Speech, the biggest hatred comes from MSM against Russians, Iranians, Syrians, Palestinians, and the white race.

    https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1056724078084546560

  9. Love Joyce, but a simpler take on JP is that he wants to sell books, make money and be popular.
    So he’s not gonna crap on Jews.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Svigor
  10. Anonymous[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    If you “view Marxism as…anti-gentilism,” then what think you of the Jew Testament which promotes both communism (Acts 4:32-35, Acts 6:1) and anti-gentilism? (Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, Luke 22:25) Fact is, Karl Marx’s famous maxim is lifted nearly word-for-word from a couple passages within the Jew Testament.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Anonymous
  11. Wally says:

    Jung is quoted:
    “It is however difficult to mention the anti-Christianism of the Jews after the horrible things that have happened in Germany. But Jews are not so damned innocent after all—the role played by the intellectual Jews in pre-war Germany would be an interesting object of investigation”

    Of course those “horrible things that have happened in Germany” have been easily debunked of the fake ‘extermination of Jews’ claims, and what remains was no different than the actions of the Allies and other countries of the period.

    http://www.codoh.com

  12. Jordan Peterson formerly wrote globalist propaganda for the UN.

    now he writes it for the Jews.

    which explains the $1,000,000 Jewbucks/year coming into his patreon.

    at least JP’s an expensive shabbatz goy.

    all Khruschev got was a piece of gefilte fish.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  13. Eh, I have become skeptical of Jewish “intelligence.” An intelligent people would show a lower time preference, display more self-awareness and learn from mistakes.

    Jews in the United States by contrast treat this country as a throwaway, especially because they hold Israel as their backup country in case their ability to live here becomes untenable. They don’t understand how they come across to non-Jews. And they keep making the mistakes which got their ancestors in trouble repeatedly over the centuries.

    By contrast, my family has lived in this country since Colonial times. And we Old Stock Americans tend to view the U.S. as an inheritance and an asset which needs careful management to maintain and increase its value for future generations. Our low time preference and proprietary feeling towards this country put us into conflict with the sort of Jews who view the U.S. as a hotel they grudgingly live in while they hold the hotel’s Gentile owners in contempt.

  14. Rupertz says:

    Bizarrely, EvolutionistX keeps with her mind trapped within a frame where she must not touch dangerous things out of some fear barrier, or condenscending isolationism, and wrote such an infantile rationale here:

    https://evolutionistx.wordpress.com/2018/10/27/jews-arent-your-enemies/

    Such a waste of a good girl.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Anonymous
  15. Alfred says:

    There is absolutely no archaeological evidence that the Exodus ever took place from Egypt. Anyway, Palestine was quite barren at that time so there was no land of “milk and honey”.

    If you want to know where the Jews really came from, have a look at Yemen. It was much greener than it is at present and it had rivers, dams and irrigation canals.

    The geography and place names in the Old Testament tie in very well with Yemen and the Hejaz (Western Saudi Arabia). The fact that the Saudis have been systematically demolishing all archeological remains in that region is significant.

    So-called Jericho never had walls. In fact, no towns in Palestine had walls. The Jews have been searching for 100 years for any evidence that they had been there after Egypt – none has ever been found. The Dead Sea Scrolls are fake. At least 150 scholars wrote them. They can be readily dated with modern techniques but the Jews won’t let anyone do that. They were largely taken from the Cairo Synagoogue and deposited in these caves to give the Jews an excuse for taking over Palestine in 1947/48. How convenient! Almost as convenient as 9/11

    The Jews and the Arabs living in Yemen were taken to Babylon as punishment for raiding the caravans moving spices along the West of Arabia. When the Persians liberated them, many went to Palestine and others back to Yemen.

    The Old Testament is really a prime example of how the Jews manipulate history to their own ends. The world’s best propagandists.

  16. Though personally I don’t think about Jews that deeply until it’s on about making the US into a refugee dump or something like, I agree that JP is overrated. I believe he’s offering the public some sort of patriarchal socialism so men can have a place in society again. Also the study of comparative literature isn’t a typical component of a psychologist’s education. It’s just the latest pop psychology.

  17. The fundamental problem with these facile Jewish excuses is that they are built on the stupid idea that “ANTI-SEMITISM!!!” is the easy way out. It takes a childish or cowardly mind to believe this. W…T…F is easy about “ANTI-SEMITISM!!!”? It really takes a self-obsessed mind, lacking introspection (say, the average Jew’s), to bandy about “ideas” like this.

    It is certainly not any kind of ‘easy way out’ today, and hasn’t been for a long time. But it was certainly much easier to be an ‘anti-semite’ before WWII (and still for a short while afterwards). Jewish influence was not as great nor as pernicious in those days, so it was more reasonable (though still ultimately fallacious) back then to believe that, in general, ‘anti-semites’ were looking for an easy target to blame. It is perfectly ridiculous to claim that there is anything easy about ‘anti-semitism’ today; anyone claiming there is deserves to be laughed out of the room.

  18. You read the wrong Solzhenitsyn bucko!

    • LOL: Svigor
    • Replies: @David Bauer
    , @Svigor
  19. Anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    I tend to be able to endure every manner of pedantic intellectualism and esoteric flight of fancy without reflexively recoiling. I tend to be able to give it objective consideration on its merits for as long as it can avoid reeking like bullshit.

    I’ve never been able to take Jordan Peterson for more than a couple of minutes, in any format. Its a mystery to me how he has any legitimate fan-base, if he indeed does.

    Its more than obvious that Peterson is a shill of the Neocon variety. That’s the polite term.

    The impolite terminology for Peterson is that he’s a Jewish tool solely concerned with occupying or otherwise diverting gentile conservative political energy away from the Jews or anything that threatens them. His politics are parallel to all such actors.

    Peterson’s “success” seems artificial to me. My gut says that he is promoted with the help of third party funds and that a lot of his supposed (significantly visible in any form) fan-base are cutouts. No one who has as little to say as Peterson does could have a legitimately large following. He’s a prop, meant to act as a “new” microphone for an old message 9after the old mics were delegitimized).

  20. utu says:

    Peterson clearly is smart and intelligent. He has good operational intelligence but is lacking a depth. He had some exposure to what I would call the real literature but he never got it to his heart because by education he is a very shallow techie. He sees the world through materialistic lens where everything is mechanical. For him it means that you have to do just right motions and things will be OK. This is not even true for dogs.

    He worked on multivariate models of personality which basically is arranging list of questions and then decomposing the covariance matrix to find underlaying dependence structure to find minimal number of independent variables.. There is no depth in it. It is very mechanistic. It is like studying human nature by an accountant. If I had to listen to a psychologist I would opt for classically educated psychoanalysts or Jungian analyst not a psychometrician.

    He read Solzhenitsyn and others but he really does not get much from them because he did not have intellectual tools and right sensitivity level. His reading and relating the material he read is very sophomoric. Also I suspect that in the past he had long episodes of heavy drug usage which only further “primitivized” his mind.

    From what I heard he makes good money form his babbling. Is he an indication that Zeitgeist is shifting to the right or is he a part of operation to capture minds of people who abandon the ship of the left to prevent them from going too far right? I put him in the bag of light weight internet intellectuals together with Sam Harris. Peterson unlike Harris did not get yet to intense Islamophophia and Israel first schtick but he is pretty close there. Harris is dangerous because he is a zealot, has mission and full support of the Tribe. Peterson probably is just a combination of a lucky happenstance and opportunism.

  21. Tyrion 2 says:

    This is an inverted version of the SJW argument that because all of the great white people from the past supported slavery and blah blah blah they should all be denounced and erased.

    It is an arrogant interjection into history whereby the author “forgets” the fundamentals of context, human fallibility and limited knowledge.

    Hey look, these clever people used leeches for illnesses so use leeches now!

    Beyond risible.

    Not that the author has actually forgotten. He just gets off on using his intellect to further what comes across to me as an underlying sadistic rage. His readers are merely props in thay action.

    If the average “JWoke” commenter wants to know who thinks of them as “cattle” they can simply look at Andrew Joyce.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @Svigor
  22. mcohen says:

    Gam-yahchad

    For sure the sulfur had been steadily leaking out of the orifice of the great satans home.
    Oh man.When that volcano blows it will light up the sky.When the earthquake strikes the hills will move.
    The aharon hakodesh lies beneath in the ground and it will be returned to israel soon.
    Gather up the golani and all the other brave warriors for this mission.
    Bring it back to israel and set it down atop mount gilo.This will be the site of the 3rd temple.

    Blessed are you Lord
    King of the universe,who dwells in the seven realms
    In the west
    In the east
    In the north
    In the south
    In the earth below
    In the heavens above
    In our souls eternally.

  23. Like the more famous Joyce, Andrew Joyce is prone to stream-of-consciousness rambling. It is impossible to critically address most of issues mentioned, or even a part of it. So I’ll limit myself to superficial overview of the Jung section.

    Jung considered, as did most people of his time, that ethnicities, “races”, cultures… possess unique behavioral/psychological characteristics (which is probably true). Just, it is difficult to ascertain those without lapsing into trivial stereotypes (Germans are organized & cold, Italians are warm & chaotic,…). Jung’s psychology is best called Archetypal psychology (although this term is applied to Jung’s disciple James Hillman’s psychology), although the name Analytical psychology is usually used.

    The problem with Jung is that he is not clear on whether his psychology is essentially materialist or idealist. He himself was contradictory re this central issue. If he is a materialist like Freud, psychological traits are modes of consciousness produced by brain & evolution. If, on the other hand, he is idealist like Plato & Hegel, then there are invisible dimensions/worlds our 3+1 dimensional empirical world is a manifestation thereof, and his archetypes are not just common nuclei of specifically human consciousness, but they exist in extra-physical & extra-temporal realms which are primordial & supraordinate essences of empirical material reality . Plato’ allegory of the cave in “The Republic” is the most famous example. In materialist interpretation, all that psychologically happens is, basically, inside our skull; in idealist approach, human consciousness can be transferred to other, non-physical realities & can function without brain.

    Jung never resolved this crucial point.

    On the lower level, he never succeeded to differentiate between collective & universal unconscious. Even if we toss aside metaphysics of fundamental world-view (which is impossible in Jung’s case) & remain in the field of psychological processes alone, we are still left with the question: are archetypes “collective” in the sense they are basic substructures (and superstructures) of psychological functioning of human collectives (races, ethnicities, cultures, religions,..)- or, perhaps, archetypes are universal for the entire humankind?

    Another objection is: Jung does not seem to clearly differentiate- if we accept his terminology- between the subconscious & the superconscious & lumps them both into the “unconscious” (here he may resemble Freud). Even hard-core Jungians don’t care about this fundamental critique that Jung himself frequently confused basic, primitive levels of the unconscious with those we may term “higher” & which are, in we limit ourselves to psychological phenomenology, source of universal human creativity as embodied in works of arts, sciences & “high” religion.

    Did he confuse basement with upper stories?

    Maybe later …

  24. The only game in town these days is: “My Victimhood is Bigger than Yours.” Certain folks play this better than anyone else.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/10/my-victimhood-is-bigger-than-yours-or.html

    • Replies: @Svigor
  25. Pheasant says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    ‘Like the more famous Joyce, Andrew Joyce is prone to stream-of-consciousness rambling’

    Please ignore this ultra disrespectful concern trolling. I have read all of his articles on The Occidental Observer website and Andrew Joyce phd is the most concise, hard hitting analytical mind on the alt right with the possible exception of Kevin Macdonald himself.

    • Agree: mark green, lavoisier
  26. Being smarter does not equate to being more virtuous. There is an issue here about race, and an issue here about ideology. Judaism is an ideology. One can join it through conversion. This is something that is not possible for race – I can’t become black or female, save for a future CRISPR rejig of my DNA, and even then I’m not sure how well the whole body system would take such a drastic change at the age of 32!

    It is true, that the Jewish ideology has been predomenantly insular since its inception, and that for the most part, there has been little ‘fresh blood’ injected in, meaning that a racial factor is also present. The higher IQ arguments are valid, and it is only reasonable to desire/expect those most capable to lead.

    However, the ideology must be taken into account. And the Mishna and Talmud, the history of Orthodox Judaism in the second millenium (and more anecdotal evidence such as Christ with the money changers), point clearly to an ideology that classifies itself as one of expetionalism – ‘the chosen people of God’, are not your standard bunch.

    And exceptionalism ~= fascism!

    How so? No matter your level of intellect or wisdom, if you consider yourself inherently better than others, you equivelantly consider others worse. The Nazis had their Untermenschen (slavs), and the Jews have their Goim – everyone who is not a Jew.

    “Why are the Goim unclean? Because they were not present at Mount Sinai. For when the serpent entered into Eve he infused her with uncleanness. But the Jews were cleansed from this when they stood on Mount Sinai; the Goim, however, who were not on Mount Sinaim were not cleansed.” Avodah Zarah, 22b

    Regardless of intellectual capacity, if the underlying ideology remains littered with segregationalist, genocidal tendencies – those practicing it end up tainted by those tendencies.

    The issue is that intellect ≠ wisdom. And whilst the written law greatly advanced the intellectual capacities of the Jewish people over the last 3000 years, their exceptionalism has not granted them wisdom.

  27. I would say that Jung seems to have remained confused about his basic theories. He sometimes interprets the collective unconscious as truly collective, ie. ethnic/racial & in other instances as universally human. Then, he mixes archetypes & symbols. Archetypes should be primordial human psychological universals (self, shadow/inner devil, animus/eternally masculine, anima/eternally feminine), while symbols are more numerous (trickster, king, fool, mother, father, … basically all Tarot cards symbols put together & more).

    Even if we limit ourselves to symbols & interpret his collective unconscious as ethnic/racial, the entire picture remains unclear. Jung’s basic errors are to be found in over-psychologizing. His approach to religion is purely psychological, at least in most cases. He wouldn’t answer the question: is your religious experience a reflection of some deeper non-physical underlying Reality, or not? Is it potentially more than psychological- just, you can’t say it aloud because it is not convenient in the modern world, or it remains a web of psychological, and only psychological structures?

    Another weakness is Jung’s ahistorical approach. He psychologizes the entire human endeavor- perhaps including exact sciences?- and at the same time he is happily oblivious to the social, economic, cultural, historical… circumstances.

    Later…

  28. @Jordan B Peterson

    Mr. Peterson — if that is really you — I truly hope that you will at some point offer a…..well, somewhat more thorough and substantive response to Mr. Joyce’s superb four-part essay.

  29. Victor33 says:
    @advancedatheist

    Exactly! Turn on the Jewish owned-and-controlled news media and all you see for the last ten years is anti-white racism and hatred combined recently with open ranting calls to “kill at the white people!” Then look around the American environment and see the thousands of white working and middle class people killed by the Jewish opioid epidemic. Then be told repeatedly your are a Nazi because you don’t like what you see, and that you have no right to your culture and heritage, no right to a future, no right to speak.

    This juggernaut is to me the hallmark of Jewish stupidity, and historically it will always have the same very predictable and inevitable results, as in the recent Pittsburgh shooting.

    Excellent article. Peterson never passed the smell test with me.

    • Replies: @Just curious
  30. @advancedatheist

    This is a wonderfully expressed comment.

    Alan Greenspan agrees with you one hundred percent. Amid the wreckage of the bank failures in 2008, Greenspan expressed his astonishment at the spectacle of Wall Street–supposedly America’s best and brightest–having acted in such a way as to have completely undermined their own long-term self interest.

    He was as much as admitting that he had naively equated intelligence with capacity for concern.

    Erich Fromm wrote that love was: care, respect, responsibility and knowledge; in other words, all the elements of good stewardship. Love was not mere infatuation or self-seeking validation in the eyes of the other.

    Martin Buber wrote that true concern for the other manifests itself in the I-Thou relationship while self seeking relates to the other as I-it. Treating the United States as a resource to plunder and her people as subjects to be manipulated so as to maximize return on investment is a grievous existential error. Not only is it inhumane, but it will backfire. Sin is sin not because some prude is offended, but because long-term experience has shown that sinful behavior doesn’t work.

    • Replies: @Druid
  31. Anonymous[220] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    The Jews milking their Goim cows for shekels is also a Jewish principle promoted in the Jew Testament; see Romans 15:27. Kike::Kine.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  32. @Bardon Kaldian

    You seem to have an incurable inclination to miss the point, which was not to evaluate Jung’s psychological theories, rather to critique Peterson’s views on Jews in terms of what Jung (and Peterson’s other intellectual heroes) would have likely had to say about Peterson’s views on Jews.

    It’s all right there in the first paragraph:

    But they share something else in common – they have all confronted the Jewish Question in a manner that quite clearly contradicts the view put forth by Peterson. This is not to say that everyone must follow all the ideas of their heroes, but it does call into question how carefully Peterson has both understood these writers and considered his own position on the Jews. The following essay is intended to tease out some problems and contradictions.

    Of course, the bolded portion implies that theses authors’ views on Jews were so central to their overall philosophical beliefs that one cannot fairly promote their views on philosophy or politics or psychology without also promoting (or at least accepting) their views on Jews. I wonder what the writers mentioned would have had to say about that.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  33. Svigor says:
    @Hamlet's Ghost

    Precisely.

    Shiksa: Biblical Roots of Racism

    In-groups sandwich an outline for animosity, an organizing principle for prejudice, between layers of social support. Whether Christian or Muslim or Jewish, every extremist is supported by a small number of less extreme admirers and each of those supporters is buoyed, in turn, by a larger group of sympathizers. These connections are continuous right down to the bottom of the pyramid, where vaguely sympathetic in-group members are offended by the very extremists who would have no base, and no basis, without them. It is that vague sympathy which needs to be examined.

    WNs differ from Hartung, in that we mirror, rather than examine; take up arms, rather than preach pacifism at armed enemy camps.

  34. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    The Jew Testament is also, as you put it, a prime example of how the Jews manipulate history to their own ends. It is a fact that at least one of the Jewsus nativity stories is utterly fake news.

    It is beyond reasonable dispute that Luke dates the birth of Jesus to 6 A.D. It is equally indisputable that Matthew dates the birth of Jesus to 6 B.C. (or some year before 4 B.C.). This becomes an irreconcilable contradiction after an examination of all the relevant facts…

    The Date of the Nativity in Luke (6th ed., 2011)
    Richard Carrier

    https://infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/quirinius.html

    It is also a fact that the “Gospels” are written in the style of pious fiction, as show in Gospel Fictions by Randel Helms. They are not about Jesus so much as they are about the writers’ attitudes concerning Jesus.

  35. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    Jews hate Christianity, stupid.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. What stuck in my brain when I read the above article was the observation by both Jung and Solzhenitsyn that Jews, having no sooner settled in their new digs, began criticizing the customs, manners and mores of the peoples who surrounded them.

    This is disturbing because it indicates that the Jewish tendency to subject the cultural institutions of wherever Jews settle to the caustic acid of their critique is inherent in their Jewishness. It is something they carry about with them as part of their identity and possibly, encoded in their DNA.

    In other words, they can’t help themselves. They do as they do not out of choice but because they are programmed to act as they do. This goes a long way towards explaining their seeming self-defeating behavior and why they find themselves the victims of their own “success”. As painful as has been their history both for themselves and others, it seems to be that they have evolved a viable, albeit unusual, mode of survival.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  37. How had Jung treated his archetypal symbols as manifestations of supposedly ethnic/racial unconscious? Ambivalently, or to be precise- confusingly.

    His stress on timelessness of deeper layers of psyche left him vulnerable to any common sense criticism. For instance, when Nazis came to power in 1933, Jung wrote an essay wherein he claimed that Wotan/Odin had slept for thousand years & was now awoke. Evidently, he thought that ethnic German unconscious, fired by Nazi pagan iconography & ideology, had awoken subliminal Homo Teutonicus who had dreamed all along since the beginning of time, with all his passions & drives. This is a nice picture, but- when was Wotan buried in German consciousness, supraconscious or subconscious? Where are dreams of other Teutonic nations- Danes, English, Dutch, Norwegians, Flemings or Swedes? When did a part of Germanic tribes become modern German nation? When & how did this suppression of Wotan into the collective German unconscious happen?
    Jung had been writing about possession of Germans by subliminal Teutonic psychological powers symbolized in the figure of Wotan/Odin, while ignoring more prosaic explanations of political & cultural turmoil, a sense of humiliation after WW1, economic depression… Of course he did not ignore them completely, but his reductionist approach described this historical upheaval as something that is basically psychological & would not have happened to another nation (why not to another Teutonic nation? Unclear).

    With regard to Africans, Jung shared the view of most Europeans that blacks were irredeemably backward & primitive, so that any sort of mixing with them was, for Westerners, not only physically repugnant, but also the road to psycho-cultural degradation & collapse of civilization. Race mixing is against progress. As for other races, those who achieved high cultures like Hindu Indians & the Chinese, Jung was also against miscegenation, just in this case it was more because of incompatibility of Western historical & cultural matrix with that of Asian civilizations. Western-African mixing would result in primitivization & degradation; Western-Asian commingling would end in alienation, confusion & psychosis.

    Later..

    • Replies: @Sean
  38. anon[163] • Disclaimer says:

    well yes, Jews will adopt a more measured tone with us when we force them to, and not before…
    but how should “WE” be defined.? European whites, African blacks, American Indians, just who are we goy.. if we are not Jews.. ??

    One expression of anti-goyism is over representation of the Jews in our Goy organized world. Jewish infringement into Goy organized world is punishable by 90 years on the Jew farms on the moon. But you would never find a Jewish judge to render such a sentence.

    I learned the awful truth of not being from Tennessee. We caught red handed Jeb who had transferred our oil from our storage tank (600 bbls) to his oil tanker trucks, we arrested him, at arraignment, Judge listened and then said” Let me see now, you boys are from Alabama, and Jeb here, accused of stealing oil, is from Tennessee? Humm said the Judge, I don’t see how Jeb can be guilty of stealing oil, because Jeb is from Tennessee and the oil is Tennessee Oil. Case dismissed.

    Solzhenitsyn “Clash of interest” and “Jewish revenge”
    Dostoevsky “continue to harm the foundations of society and culture..
    Jung ” incapable of operating ..w/o a host society..
    The Jewish question is how to counter hostile, antagonistic, one up ( i got you) behavior by legally powerful , organizationally strong, culturally trained , globally syndicated Jewish elite. The bias is rarely seen , but its result is devastating. Moe, a lottery winner, offered his friend Randy, a million $s. Randy said I don’t won’;t your million, just something to live on, starting with a penny today, just double the amount you give me each day, from now on.. When Moe was broke Randy offered Moe a Million.
    Daily payments due from Moe to Randy
    $.01 +.02 +.04+.08+.16+.32+.64+1.28+2.56+5.12+$10.24+ 20.48+40.96+81.92+163.84+327.68+655.36 +1310.72+ 2621.44+5242.88+10,485.76+ 20971.52+ 41943.04+83886.08 and so on .

  39. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Jordan Peterson formerly wrote globalist propaganda for the UN.

    Interesting. That explains a lot. His “views” on globalism and the JQ were always uncharacteristically shallow and conformist. He’s a smart guy so I’m assuming he’s lying.

  40. @Svigor

    They argue in a manner very very similar to east Indians (dot) especially the more loquacious ones who constantly harp about how we should be thankful to have them here. Who display a vicious anti white attitude, although draped in velvet, but very demeaning nonetheless. Think Aman Kapoor (Immigration voice), Vinod Khosla, Kanwal Rekhi. All of them are very rich, very arrogant and snobbish, think of everyday Americans as lower than dirt and carry a massive chip on their scrawny shoulders. Plus they’ve got quite some chutzpah!! Mazel Tov!! Is it any wonder the globalist ones have a special place for the top Hindoo castes in their hearts (since they are so similar in ways more than one)?

    But I still think there are SOME who are fanatically devoted to the truth and are ready to put everything they have to propagate it. Ron Unz, Israel Shamir come to mind but there are still quite a few more I believe.

  41. jsigur says: • Website

    Does anyone aware of the Jewish Problem take Peterson seriously anymore? It’s like spending time outing A.Jones as a Zionist shill. It was done a long time ago. They are not on our side. Don’t give them air play

  42. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThreeCranes

    As painful as has been their history both for themselves and others, it seems to be that they have evolved a viable, albeit unusual, mode of survival.

    An exposed parasite is doomed. Unfortunately, this one will probably start WW3 to cover its tracks.

  43. Anonymous[370] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    But Jews loved Jewsus, the Bible tells me so. At least when he was a popular Rabbi teaching in the Synagogues (of Satan? :) )

    “He [Jewsus] taught regularly in their synagogues and was praised by everyone.” Luke 4:15

    Like any Jew, Jewsus despised Gentiles. It’s right there, in the Jew Testament, in plain language. Why is that something that you dare not address?

    And don’t you worship a Jew? And identify as a pathetic wannabee honorary genital mutilator? (Philippians 3:3) Now who’s stupid, stupid?

  44. With regard to Jung, Jews & Jewish question, Joyce, Peterson (and much more articulate individuals like Richard Noll in his Jung’s biography “The Aryan Christ”) are either tendentious or mostly wrong. One must say that this tendentiousness is firmly rooted in Jung’s own confusions & ambivalences. Anyone can pick a quote from Jung & describe him as an anti-Semite; on the other hand, there are quotes & facts from Jung’s life which would lead one to consider him a philo-Semite. So, what is the truth?

    Both.

    Jung has known much Jews (even more- Jewesses), and assimilated, deracinated Jews formed the core of Jung’s cult as a sage & prophet. For instance, the most important Jungian writer is the author of magisterial “The Origins and History of Consciousness” Erich Neumann, himself a Jew (Jung helped him to escape to Tel Aviv fleeing the Nazis); out of three executors of his will (all three females), two were Jewesses or of Jewish extraction, Aniela Jaffe & Jolande Jacobi. The most vigorous proponent of Jung in the US was also Jewish, James Hillman.

    Evidently, nothing is black & white. Jung has, on numerous occasions, expressed negative opinions on stereotypical Jewish behavior & influence; on the other had, he has ranted about Germans even more, yet no mentally sane person would accuse Jung of Germanophobia (after all, his was culturally German to the core). It is easy to select 1, 2, ..10, .. 20… Jung’s quotes on any ethnicity to solemnly pronounce him an anti-XYZ. But, life is not that simple.

    Later…

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Seraphim
  45. EagleEyeX says:
    @advancedatheist

    Excellent post and many thanks for this …..
    you certainly must be an antisemite in their view and watch out who you say this to!

  46. Durruti says:

    The Jewish Question: What is a Semite?

    This decent essay by Andrew Joyce displays a Blind Spot common to the writings of all ‘experts’ and on The Jewish Question.

    Joyce writes. “On a fundamental level, I believe that Peterson is hopelessly wrong in his approach to Jewish matters, and especially the issue of anti-Semitism.” In Brooklyn we would respond with “Hello! Anyone home?”

    “I am not an anti-Semite; I like Arabs.”

    Must I explain this for the 50th time on the UNZ website? The overwhelming majority of Jews are not Semites. They/we hail from Europe. One of many books and studies on the subject is -

    The Thirteenth Tribe, by Arthur Koestler.

    https://www.bing.com/shop?q=thirteenth+tribe+by+arthur+koestler&FORM=SHOPPA&originIGUID=60F3657126BD4A7493CD771BD0C222AC

    Mr. Joyce, Unz, Casino Trump, Hollywood Obomber, Killery Clinton, Meier Lansky, Jack Rubenstein… if you can’t get this right, what is the point of continuing to write on the subject – if you cannot correctly identify the subject?`

    The overwhelming majority of Jews are not Semites.

    The actual anti-Semites are the Zionists – themselves, who denigrate, ethnically cleanse, steal (land & other properties) from, and engage in mass murder – with the help of their puppets states, (USA, France, Britain, and most of the rest).

    The misidentification of the victims with their victimizer is as old as the oppression of one people by another. The conscious misuse of the description ‘anti-Semite’ is intended to establish a foundation for the right of Jews, (as supposed-Semites-peoples of the Mid-East), to construct a nation on top of the bones of the dead previous inhabitants (who are the real Semites).

    The greatest single crime being committed today is the ethnic cleansing by the Zionist Oligarchs, (Rothschilds, et. al. – with the support from their tribe/nation/religion/wannabees/assorted Judas-Quislings), with the goal of genocide, against the Palestinian People. In 2018, all other crimes stem from this one.

    On a close digression: The entrance by the Russian Government into Syria, and their partial blocking (but blocking nevertheless), of the Zionist Goal of establishing eretz-Israel the Greater Zionist Project, was not foreseen by the Imperialist nations. The Russian action, as hesitant as it is, nevertheless has been the greatest shock the Zionists have experienced. I repeat. They never saw it coming. This topic is worth its own essay (hint-Unz).

    Let there be no misunderstanding. I applaud all the fine work by Ron Unz, and the fine critiques by the lively and caring writers and Commentators. The commenters make this website live.

    Durruti

    God Bless!

    Respect All! Bow to None!

    Restore the Republic!

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @silviosilver
  47. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rupertz

    Well, it is rather difficult to posit that “the Jews” are the enemy, when “the Jews” have the monopoly on all salvation/eternal life goodies. (John 4:22) Not available in Gentile stores! :) Notice that the Jew Testament says salvation comes from Jews (plural,) not just one of them.

  48. EagleEyeX says:
    @Alfred

    There was an important book published about this Yemen subject. I think that it was written by a German or was something of a German project…can’t remember. It was reviewed and scoffed at by the NY Times . Wish I still had the connection but some one out there should know about it.
    It said exactly that …..they were from Yemen.
    I hope someone does a better job than me to pull it out.

  49. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    which explains the $1,000,000 Jewbucks/year coming into his patreon.

    i don’t think this is any more legit than crapo chaphouse making tens of thousands per month either

  50. I always have smile when I do see the word antisemitism.
    After this shooting incident I did look at people claiming to be Jews.
    I am pretty confident to say that these people hardly do have any Semitic blood in their veins.
    Jews are not real Jews anymore. Particularly those “Jews” that came from Europe.
    So called Jews in reality are not Jews anymore they are religious political movement, to conquer the world.

    • Replies: @Patricus
    , @Anonymous
  51. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @advancedatheist

    Our low time preference and proprietary feeling towards this country put us into conflict with the sort of Jews who view the U.S. as a hotel they grudgingly live in while they hold the hotel’s Gentile owners in contempt.

    all you have to do is listen to Barbara Lerner Specter to see what (((they))) think of you.

    and how does she feel safe expressing these kinds of views unless other fellow jews also think similarly

    • Replies: @Druid
  52. bjondo says:
    @Svigor

    The two Shekel Rules I follow:

    Do unto Yid as Yid do unto Palestinian

    Take from Yid as Yid take from Palestinian

    5ds

  53. bjondo says:
    @Durruti

    I would add –

    they aren’t even Jews

    but

    Yids

    5ds

    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @Anonymous
  54. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    He sees the world through materialistic lens where everything is mechanical. For him it means that you have to do just right motions and things will be OK.

    Your country is being overrun and your govt is treasonous?

    Go clean your room!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  55. anonymous[739] • Disclaimer says:

    How does Jordan Peterson feel about Harvey Weinstein or the Weinstein Company mass opening the hate Southern White people porn movie “D’Jango Unchained” …..

    On Christmas Day!

    That seemed rather hateful to me and I had a word with the local theater owner opening this hateful movie on Christmas and asked if they would open a movie inciting Blacks to hate and kill Jewish people on some Jewish high holiday.

    Or how about the book and movie – “Abraham Lincoln Vampire Slayer” where Confederate soldiers are presented as not being really human, instead they are supposedly vampires that need to be exterminated.

    Or how about that hard hitting, honest journalism of that Jewess writer for Rolling Stone Magazine that accused White Southern fraternity members at the University of Virginia of gang raping 1st year UVA co-eds on broken glass as part of a pledge initiation? Complete and total lies, but it didn’t seem to matter.

    So in these cases I ask:

    “Who hates whom”?

    My biggest beefs with the current J tribe in America are primarily 2:

    1) The almost universal American Jewish elite and just regular Jews demand for complete open borders immigration from the 3rd world to the USA and the West – that’s a demand that we MUST accept even 500 million sub Saharan Black Africans and the worst of the Islamic world. Sounds crazy doesn’t that the USA needs to accept unlimited numbers of young Arab Muslim men – but that’s reality.

    2) Jewish media mafia near monopoly of Hollywood movie studios and monopoly of television Cable News and now social media.

    When the Southerner (liberal against Christianity) Ted Turner CNN wasn’t bad – when CNN went over to the tube Gerald Levin and now Jeff Zucker – CNN is horrible, constant never ending lying Lib Leftist or Neo Conservative propaganda. I left an expensive Chicago sports club because the owner (Jewish) insisted on forcing CNN on the large screens – it’s like Orwell’s 1984 where I’m forced to see and listen to J political propaganda 24/7

    Having American television on in your living room is like having Jeff Zucker, Harvey Weinstein or many other vulgar, repulsive Jews camped out in your living room corrupting our children.
    And why is it that this J tribe can’t seem to get along with anybody?

  56. @Tyrion 2

    I just learned that the word “Italy” is based on the word for baby cattle, i.e. calves (hence veal piccata :-)

    So, when Jews who were studying Talmud used “cattle” to refer to some Other group — to the extent that actually occurred, I have no idea — was the reference to Italy/ Italians?

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  57. @Hamlet's Ghost

    >There only needs to be enough general support for the monstrous decisions of their leaders to give tacit consent to their crimes.

    American jews have no leaders (you are unable to name them for they do not exist) and prominent jewish journalists/writers who promote or tolerate unfettered immigration and political correctness in general or other objectionable aims are presumably expressing their real convictions no more no less.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Them Guys
  58. Sean says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    A famous book about termites suggested they had a collective unconscious existence, why not people?

    The Soul of the White Ant by Eugène Marais

    “So the hope arises there is some purpose in nature, whose guiding principle is a psyche similar but infinitely more developed than the soul of the primate … we are as little able to comprehend such an exalted psyche as the termite can comprehend man, who orders his own aims and purposes throughout life.”

  59. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    So in these cases I ask:

    “Who hates whom”?

    i’m starting to get here too

    also, i begin to ask “who is really the racist?” and “who is really the supremacist?”

  60. @anonymous

    Having American television on in your living room is like having Jeff Zucker, Harvey Weinstein or many other vulgar[ity] and repulsive[ness] . . . camped out in your living room corrupting our children.

    When the kids were little and cable was brand new, we read a book title “Plug In Drug.”

    http://www.mariewinn.com/plugin.htm

    It still haunts: did we adequately monitor TV watching?

    Today, I look at the omnipresence of cable/media as an opportunity: Does someone stand at our front door with an AK14 demanding that we fork over $90 – $200 a month to admit “vulgarity and repulsiveness” into our home 24/7?

    NO!

    The Power is ALL in our hands, and we have said NO.

    Disconnect!

    We all know voting is rigged and futile, but you have the power to vote with your fingers — pull the plug — and your pocketbook — spend the money on a trip to the museum, or the slopes, or walk the Appalachian Trail.

    We have not had TV in over 10 years.

    At ~$80/month, that’s $9600.

    With that amount, YOU can become a Member of UnzForum for 80 years,
    or a Silver Member for 40 years.

    Put your money where your brain is.

  61. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Funny but also fairly accurate.

  62. @Durruti

    “I am not an anti-Semite; I like Arabs.”

    Must I explain this for the 50th time on the UNZ website?

    I wonder if there’s a surer sign of political feeblemindedness than imagining that “Jews aren’t semites” or “Arabs are semites too” is some kind of killer rebuttal to the “anti-semitism” accusation.

    If I were running this site, I would IP ban anyone making this argument, delete all their posts, and threaten their children.

  63. Durruti says:
    @anonymous

    “Having American television on in your living room is like having Jeff Zucker, Harvey Weinstein or many other vulgar, repulsive Jews camped out in your living room corrupting our children.”

    Weinstein supported a movie MIRAL, which was sympathetic to Palestinians.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/harvey-weinstein-miral-critics-are-167548

    After he defended this sympathetic portrayal of the Palestinian People, Weinstein went out (of his office) and raped 85 women.

    [By way of connected digression: This Zionist Land thief raped 7 women, & committed other sex crimes - and few Jews in the USA, or other Americans, have heard this news.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/22/moshe-katsav-jailed-seven-years-rape

    The Zionist controlled Mainstream Media has kept this almost totally out of the news. My girlfriend's Rabbi, who visits Israel every year, has never spoken about this to his parishioners. You would think this was important news. In 2018, the brainwashing (control of information), is overwhelmingly effective. Orwell had a clue.]

    Weinstein and Senator Franken are not innocents, but they are innocent.

    Yes, I am thoroughly ashamed of myself – for defending Jews.

    God Bless!

    Ours is the High Road!

  64. @Anonymouse

    What the hell do you think that entire alphabet soup of Jewish organisations does if not try to lead the Jewish community?

    But don’t worry, keep squirting your yid ink. It’s entertaining, if nothing else.

    • Replies: @anon
  65. anonymous[662] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Peterson is being pushed by the establishment. He’s profiled by 60 Minutes and given face time on the BBC and other mass media outlets. This doesn’t happen unless someone behind the scenes wants it to happen.

    • Replies: @utu
  66. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    I wonder if there’s a surer sign of political feeblemindedness than imagining that “Jews aren’t semites”

    goes to dishonesty

  67. utu says:
    @anonymous

    I had similar thoughts.

  68. Durruti says:
    @bjondo

    “they aren’t even Jews”

    Humans often self-identify. Senator Warren considers herself to be somewhat “Native American.” If she supported the Palestinians, and did not vote for all the Military Appropriations/wars, and huge gift$ to the Zionist entity, I would have no differences -whatever- with her.

    Since John F. Kennedy, (our last Constitutional President), Bushes, Clinton, Hollywood Obomber, and Casino Trump, Carter, LBJ, Nixon, were anointed ‘President.’ Since JFK, this nation has had no Presidents, or Congress, or Supreme Court. The American Regime is a Quisling affair.

    Call yourself anything, fantasize, but do not do harm. Mother spoke some Yiddish. The Jews of the Lower East Side, (as far as I can determine), did no harm.

    If someone claims to be a Jew, or a Martian, Respect All (so long as they do no harm).

    I’m partial to Elves.

    Bow to None!</b>

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Druid
  69. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    What the hell do you think that entire alphabet soup of Jewish organisations does if not try to lead the Jewish community?

    i think it was Giraldi who said there are 600 of these Jewish organizations but maybe that’s just the number that lobby Congress

    • Replies: @Hamlet's Ghost
  70. Gordo says:
    @Hamlet's Ghost

    As for the Birchers, someone should’ve reminded them of Occam’s Razor. It would have saved them a lot of ridicule, and only a little more abuse than they got anyway.

    John Birch Society, like the Monday Club in UK, seem to have been controlled opposition.

  71. Rurik says:
    @anonymous

    “Who hates whom”?

    Jewish supremacists to Trump:

    “you and the Republican Party: Fully denounce white nationalism, stop targeting and endangering all minorities, cease your assault on immigrants and refugees, and commit yourself to compassionate, democratic policies that recognize the dignity of all of us.”

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/jewish-leaders-to-trump-you-are-not-welcome-in-pittsburgh-1.6602699

    “The Torah teaches that every human being is made b’tzelem Elohim, in the image of God. This means all of us,”

    I did a quick search of this organization and the word ‘Palestine’. I found nothing.

    It turns out that Bend the Arc: A Jewish Partnership for Justice’ does not comment on the issue of Palestinians, at all.

    The irony is that this is an overtly Jewish organization whose founding principle is hatred for white Americans who want to remain white Americans, or ‘white nationalists’, and a psychotic, genocidal demand that all white nations cease to exist as such.

    And yet they give their tacit support for Israel’s murderous, genocidal Jewish white supremacist nationalism that is driving the planet to the brink of WWIII.

    You can always glimmer a thousand times more from what people don’t say than the carefully crafted words they do say.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
    , @Zumbuddi
    , @anon
  72. Anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:
    @bjondo

    Yid has its origins in the Middle High German word Jüde, which means, in English, Jew. You’re engaging in the NA(((J)))ALT fallacy, probably because you’re a wannabee honorary genital mutilator trying to hairsplit who owns the Real Jew™ brand.

  73. @anon

    Old Jewish Joke: If you get two Jews together, you get three opinions, and four organizations.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  74. Them Guys says:
    @Anonymouse

    Here well describes Jews Leader…and shows You as wrong.

    “The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud.”
    — Michael Rodkinson, in preface of Babylonian Talmud, page XI.

    “The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe — whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, or merely spasmodic sentimentalists — we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.”
    — Herman Wouk, “This is My God.” Wouk wrote the book and screenplay “Winds of War,” popular back in the 1970’s.

    “To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly.”
    — The Talmud: Libbre David 37

    “What is the basis of Judaism? A practical passion and greed for profit. To what can we reduce his (the Jew’s) religious worship? To extortion. What is his real God? Cash!”
    — Karl Marx, founder of Communism, quoted in the British Guardian, July-August, 1924.

    “I hardly exaggerate. Jewish life consists of two elements: Extracting money and protesting.”
    — Nahum Goldmann “The Jewish Paradox” 1978

    “Jewish history has been tragic to the Jews and no less tragic to the neighboring nations who have suffered them. Our major vice of old as of today is parasitism. We are a people of vultures living on the labor and good fortune of the rest of the world.”
    — Samuel Roth, “Jews Must Live,” page 18.

    “The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people.”
    — Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919.

    “There is much in the fact of Bolshevism (Communism) itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of Judaism.”
    — The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1919.

    Indeed Bolshevist Ideals, consist of, Jews trying to out do fellow Bolshevik Commie Jews in inventing worse and far more painful and Horrific torture methods, and methods to Mass Murder “Others” of the Non Jewish variety.

  75. bjondo says:
    @Durruti

    so long as they do no harm

    A biggie.

    With this cult, beyond imagination.

    I would guess many Yid of the Lower East Side spread out, moved away. Maybe joining the NYT, CBS, attending the Ivies, going to Weinswinewood, becoming Neocons/Yidcons and doing massive harm beyond measure.

    But

    only a guess.

    Yid being Yid

    the Yid will break out.

    You are too reasonable.

    Maybe, unbelievably so.

    5ds

    • Replies: @Durruti
  76. Them Guys says:
    @utu

    Reminds me of all those so called “Christian” pastors, male & female alike, often seen on TBN and Doprah tv shows (aka Oprah tv)…They take a single out of context bible verse such as, “What so ever you ask for in prayer, if it is prayed in Jesus’s Name….That will God the Father grant you!”…Also they are called “Name it and claim it” denomination…..They quote that verse, then write an entire book about all the different ways you can, name and claim thru prayer if said in name of Jesus.

    Now yes there is such a verse….BUT…These clowns always Omit the Final verse part that states…What so ever you ask for in prayer shall be granted to you….IF The Father in Heaven agrees with granting it!….See how that works?…Yet many dupes fall totally for it, buy the books, read them, then go to say…a New Car dealers showroom, spot the exact vehicle they dream to own, then Lay Hands upon roof of car in showroom, recite some mambo jambo prayer in the name of Christ….Then go run back home and await the…Big Day event!…The day when all of a sudden that very same new car is going to be parked in Their driveway!…..Because of course, God don’t Lie right…So God just Has to Give you whatever your little greedy heart desires, as long as you follow His rules in prayer and state the prayer in the Name of Jesus..

    These fraud apostate preacher book sellers also advise their followers that…God cannot provide you with a new car or rent money or any material wealth, Unless and Until..You pray and Tell God what He needs to Do!!!!…..Riiiggghhhtttt! an All knowing God that somehow needs stupid dupes to Tell Him what to Do!….. laugh out loud yes….Just remember, these fraud pastors have massive huge followings of such duped foolish souls…Especially if…”Seen on TV on the…Oprah show!”

    Just a few nice words of actual belief in them and their phony books advise, from the great Oprah, Queen of day time tv and viewed by Most American Women, and book sales sky rocket to the Moon!

    To the…Moon, Alice!

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Anonymous
  77. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    There’s another article on the subject here:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-29/rabbis-tell-trump-hes-not-welcome-pittsburgh-until-he-denounces-white-nationalism

    This is interesting:

    Unsurprisingly, one detail that most mainstream media outlets left out of their coverage of the letter is the fact that George Soros’ son Alexander Soros is the chairman of Bend the Arc’s board, and even helped the organization launch a ‘Jewish political action committee’ a few years after Bend the Arc was created, according to this 2015 Politico story.

    What a bunch of venal vipers. Not only are they directly blaming Trump for the attack but they’re now demanding that white nationalism must be destroyed in a white nation. Unreal.

  78. To finish with Jung & all that stuff: what Jordan Peterson thinks Jung would have said on Jews & cosmos is of minor importance; so is Joyce’s critique of Peterson. I don’t know much about these people. Joyce strikes me as an anti-Jewish polemicist; Peterson is a public intellectual who is basically an entertainer. What he, or anyone else in that category, would have said on Jung, Solzhenitsyn, Dostoevsky & Nietzsche is worthless. Anyone who has studied & critically examined works of these authors knows that their responses to most controversial questions, including Jewish question, are immensely more complex than anything that can be extracted from a few quotes, biographical notes or other peoples’ opinions. Essentially, books could be written (and in the case of Dostoevsky this is what had been done) to address their positions on the Jews.

    Jung is more interesting than others re Jewish question because his work’s central premises reflect his Weltanschauung’s dubieties & inconsistencies. With Dostoevsky, everything is much simpler: Russians are real Chosen people & Jews had lost their historical mission; with Solzhenitsyn, it is a combination of Christian historiosophy & analysis of national rivalries during October Revolution; for Nietzsche, Jews were slightly- not much- saner than Christians, whom he had viewed as intrinsically sick & Wagnerian cult as a symptom of decadence & Teutonized Christian morbidity.

    Jung on the Jews is, to say the least- contradictory & his contradictions are ingrained in the very fabric of his psychological edifice, not just casual, offhand remarks. It boils down to: do they possess essentially irradicable traits that won’t go away with assimilation & acculturation? Are these traits indelible part of their psychological makeup? Something unconscious?

    Here, Jung is rephrasing, from the Gentile angle, ancient motif of Jewish supremacist spiritual psychology: Jews possess divine portions of the soul which God had created particularly & favorably for them, while other human beings are led mostly by passions & evil inclinations. Jewish spiritual anthropology is fundamentally different from the Gentile one. This is the central thesis of Hebrew Kabbalah, and virtually all Kabbalist teachers, with only slight digressions, have insisted on that. Jung, of course, denies that the reverse is true (Jews are not psychospiritually inferior to Christians & others). Just, he remained uncertain about their status in his own psychological metaphysics. If there is a Jewish collective unconscious, does a Jew, when visiting a therapist, receives a different treatment? This is not only a cultural question (Jung had observed that Protestants have different types of neuroses than Catholics). In the case of deracinated Jews, or even Christian converts- do they still retain something subliminally Jewish which is not transferred solely by childhood indoctrination, but is part & parcel of being genetically Jewish?

    Jung has remained bogged down in that question. Mostly, he treats assimilated Jews as just another type of Westerners. But, interestingly enough, there is one recorded treatment differing from the norm: Jung has given a young secular Jewish woman, his patient & a spiritual non-believer, the advice to immerse herself in the study of Kabbalah, because as a Jewish person, she will find health & balance in the Jewish spiritual tradition she didn’t care about.

    I don’t know how or whether that worked.

    • Replies: @utu
  79. AaronB says:

    The funny thing is this article demonstrates the futility of articles pointing out the bad behavior of Jews – 170 years of the kinds of articles Andrew Joyce is himself writing here often by far more prominent people have had no impact.

    Thanks Andrew for demonstrating in such meticulous detail the utter failure of the policy of merely “pointing out” Jewish misbehavior – thanks for pointing out the utter futility of the kinds of articles you write :)

    This funny belief that “pointing out” Jewish behaviour will have an impact is a manifestation of the naive European rationalism that is exactly one of the weak chinks in the armor this article do vividly explains Jews exploit.

    It is amusing that even though they are aware that Jews exploit their weaknesses they continue to operate within the framework of those weakneses :)

    As is so often and tragically the case, recognition of a problem does not mean one can really deal with it.

    Someone please wake me up when the discussion becomes about fixing the weak links of European culture that are so easily exploited by literally everyone else – materialism, rationalism, and individualism.

    But of course no signs of that happening – instead we shall have another 170 years of being treated to pathbreaking articles exclaiming at Jewish misbehavior, and pointing out the Jewish strategy of exploiting weak links while operating from precisely those weak links :)

    The human comedy.

  80. Them Guys says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Yes and is why Christ called them the….Synagogue of Satan in Rev. 2:9 & 3:9. John 8:44 also has a good description, where Christ told them they are of their Father Satan, and shall Do what Satan does and promotes, which is…Lie…Steal…Murder.

    But they go by their Talmudic Rabbinical Laws. And Talmud teaches that No Jew has ever committed any Sin Nor a Crime…As long as whatever, Whatever! Any Jew did or does, is done to a Non Jewish Goy gentile or a Gentile run and populated Nation.

    Which basically creates a huge global, worldwide play ground for Jews to operate within. Because every nation on earth qualifies as a non Jewish nation…Except for Israel, but that too Jews stole and scammed into being.

    When one belongs to a rather tiny group of 15-million worldwide, compared to 7-Billion Non Jew Goys worldwide, that makes for a massively huge play ground for every type swindle, lie, scam, and mass murdering war for Jews to play in and operate within.

    It don’t usually last very long though, for once enough folks awaken to what’s being done and by whom….Let’s just say that, it typically back fires and goes very bad for international Jewry as a whole….See:…109 prior to usa Host nations, Boot Outs 300 times of all their Jewish population when in those host nations enough folks got Jew wised up…..Tic-Toc #110 may be close at hand.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  81. When jews themselves specify over representation, who will doubt this over representation ?:
    ‘Christianity and the Holocaust of the Hungarian Jewry’, Moshe Y Herclz, 1993 New York University press
    Ismar Schorsch, ‘Jewish Reactions to German Anti-Semitism, 1870 – 1914′, New York 1972

    • Replies: @anon
  82. renfro says:

    Just to reiterate, this is Peterson’s account of the origins of anti-Semitism in the individual:

    You can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your group you feel racially/ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself. That’s convenient. You can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously. Another unearned victory. You simplify your world radically, as well. All the problems you face now have a cause, and a single one, so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail. Bonus. Furthermore, and most reprehensibly: you now have someone to hate (and, what’s worse, with a good conscience) so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly can find a target, and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution.

    That is hysterically funny!………he’s actually describing the Jews.

  83. @Anonymous

    https://www.un.org/pga/72/wp-content/uploads/sites/51/2018/07/migration.pdf

    Read, and shudder, in connection with
    ” they’re now demanding that white nationalism must be destroyed in a white nation. Unreal. “

  84. Them Guys says:
    @silviosilver

    Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”
    — 1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3 (the writer is obliquely referring to the true history of the Eastern European Ashkenazim, or Khazars).

  85. @silviosilver

    If somebody is febleminded it is you.
    From the times of Mordecai Jewish girl were encouraged by Rabbis to marry influential rich Goyms.
    The offspring had only half of Semitic blood.
    And so on and so on.
    From where Jews did get all this power. What do you think?
    Mordecai principle was practiced for more than two millennia.

  86. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    Actually the Rabbi of the Synagogue said that of course Trump was welcome there.

    You’ll believe anything the media says, as long as they agree with your priors, even though you think they always lie…

    https://www.newsweek.com/rabbi-synagogue-during-shooting-says-trump-certainly-welcome-after-jewish-1191747

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  87. Durruti says:
    @silviosilver

    “I wonder if there’s a surer sign of political feeblemindedness than imagining that “Jews aren’t semites” or “Arabs are semites too” is some kind of killer rebuttal to the “anti-semitism” accusation.”

    I clearly explained that Semites are defined as peoples from the Middle East, and most Jews can trace their origins to – Europe. Hebrew, as with any language, may be learned. Ability to converse in Hebrew, by itself, proves little. The Zionist Land Thieves in Palestine hail from Europe and the United States (by earlier route from Europe).

    We have no need to explain the existence of Arabs, and their homelands.

    I recommended Koestler’s -The Thirteenth Tribe- for your perusal. There are many other sources of information that clarify the origin of modern Jewry.

    Try this: http://rense.com/general66/mostjewsarenot.htm

    Apparently:

    You are not only too lazy to peruse these informational sources, you are too lazy to read my comment (although you will offer a comment anyway).

    What part of this comment do you not understand?

    The misidentification of the victims with their victimizer is as old as the oppression of one people by another. The conscious misuse of the description ‘anti-Semite’ is intended to establish a foundation for the right of Jews, (as supposed-Semites-peoples of the Mid-East), to construct a nation on top of the bones of the dead previous inhabitants (who are the real Semites).”

    If you are a hater of the Arab peoples of the Middle East, say it! Out with it! If you are a racist advocate of the supposed superiority of one section of our Human branch over another, do not be afraid. Say it loud and clear.

    The future of Jews, is as Nassan Nasrallah declares – in Europe and the United States.

  88. Appreciated this article. It requires several readings. And it draws (inhales) me into views of writers, theorists, and social explications of Russians I am familiar with larger by their exposure for academic study.

    Appreciate it

    Note: Dr. Peterson’s value lies in the fact that he represents a long overdue challenge to the careless orthodoxy advanced by far too many of his peers in Psychiatry.

  89. Them Guys says:
    @anonymous

    Television= Code for…Talmudvision, aka, The Electronic Rabbi in your living room. Hollywood= Same, only at large theaters.

  90. Durruti says:
    @bjondo

    “You are too reasonable.

    Maybe, unbelievably so.”

    Guilty: as charged:

    Yes. I am too reasonable, and very often unbelievably so.

  91. anon[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Trump should ask the people of Pittsburgh – “Who’s more welcome, me or the rabbis?”

  92. Them Guys says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    I once read that, the Bolsheviks CHEKA aka secret police mass murdering “officials”. Had an actual word phrase where each letter of cheka stands for a word…And that when its entire word phrase or sentence is translated to English, it states something akin to.

    Butcher of Herd Animals….If true? It sure sounds appropriate eh, for folks who know what CHEKA members actually did to so many innocent victims during the soviet revolt and after. CHEKA went thru several name changes with KGB most recent until todays FSA Is it?

    That CHEKA=Butcher of Herd Animals also sounds correct when compared to fact that aprox 75% of cheka were Jewish, and how to the Jews all non Jews are a Goyim peoples…and that Goyim means, Cattle. Or a Goy means One cattle animal, while Goyim applies to Many (Herd) and All Goy Gentiles.

    Butchers of Herd Animals….hmm…They seem to just Love to live up to their catchy names eh. Over 100 million Goyim Herds gone as quick as soviet cheka Jews could reload the guns.

  93. anon[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    did the same author write a book about the exploits of Bela Kuhn or did he write about why the post WWII communist Hungarian govt was mostly jewish despite jews being only what 10%? 5%? of the population?

  94. @Hamlet's Ghost

    Or as I like to say, “Two Jews, three opinions – all three anti-white.”

  95. Anon[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Hey Pres Trump

    Come to My house.

    It’s not in Squirrel Hill, it’s in the neighborhood where rich Jews built their first houses before they made the big bucks and moved on up.
    Nice enough, suitably gentrified, and if Diversity’s your thing, we’ve got it in spades.
    Do you like Thai? Restaurant around the corner is pretty good, just don’t ask to see any visas.

    You’d be more than welcome

    Drop me a line, we’ll make arrangements.

  96. Seraphim says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Interesting, in the life of the non-Christian and downright anti-Christian ‘thinkers’ (IYI) like Jung, Nietzsche, Heidegger there is always a Jewish ‘mistress’ (Sabina Spielrein, Lou Salome, Hannah Arendt). Esther rediviva?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  97. anarchyst says:
    @Them Guys

    It’s called the “Prosperity Gospel”–the only ones that prosper are the ones doing the preaching, while extracting “donations” from their “followers”, while giving their followers “false hope”. What a scam…and it’s legal…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  98. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    In medicine, a parasite infestation diagnosis is absolutely crucial for a (99+% effective) cure.

    The truth will set us free.

  99. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/splc-leads-soros-funded-groups-in-orwellian-attempt-to-ban-hate-speech-on-social-media/

    If we don’t hate our own kind, and agitate for our marginalization and ultimate destruction…

    - it can only mean we’re full of hate!!!

    Either we hate our families and ancestors and heritage and culture, even down to our civilization and DNA..

    Or we’re Nazis and “white supremacists” and are trying to enslave the blacks and gas the Jews, blah, blah, blah

    It’s sooo surreal that it’s laughable, and yet there are people who act as if such nonsense had merit.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  100. crimson2 says:

    Peterson is an unstable nutbag, but he still knows that the alt-right is nothing but a death cult.

    Try not to murder your children like Goebbels did.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Saxon
    , @anon
  101. This article is so good in so many ways. Could Solzhenitsyn, Dostoevsky, or Jung be published in the Western world today? Nope.

  102. @AaronB

    And, like clockwork, AaronB chimes in to give an unwittingly ironic example of how expulsionary anti-Jewish sentiment is engendered. :P

  103. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @Them Guys

    Whenever a Jew-worshiper like yourself wants to neutralize an embarrassing or otherwise unfavorable Jew Testament passage, they say that the person with whom they disagree has taken it “out of context.” Such sophomoric exegesis become an internet joke.

    • Replies: @Anon
  104. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Yes, according to your link, one rabbi had a dissenting opinion – which wasn’t published in the open letter.

    So, the link I shared to the open letter article is still 100% accurate but you’re now trying to pretend that we didn’t see what we saw.

    Are you getting paid for this? Are you retarded?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Svigor
  105. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @Them Guys

    If they’re Satanic, how did Jewsus become such a popular Rabbi teaching in the Synagogues that he habitually attended?

    • Replies: @Svigor
  106. Anonymous[364] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    Extracting “donations” from their “followers” is a long held Christian tradition. See Acts chapter 5, especially verse 11, when donations are extracted with an “or else.” Such coercion is the only way to make Communism (Acts 4:32-35, 6:1, 2 Corinthians 9:13) work. There’s a good reason why Ludwig von Mises wrote that “primitive Christianity is Bolshevism.” (Socialism, p. 413)

  107. Anonymous[364] • Disclaimer says:
    @Seraphim

    Did any of them get cuckolded like carpenter Joseph did by the Jewish THOT Mary?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  108. @crimson2

    I’m surprised your head hasn’t exploded yet. But keep reading – there’s always hope.

  109. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    So Jews have differing political opinions…shocking…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Svigor
  110. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Well said. This has blowback written all over it.

  111. @Alfred

    You, Alfred, say: “The Dead Sea Scrolls are fake. At least 150 scholars wrote them. They can be readily dated with modern techniques but the Jews won’t let anyone do that. They were largely taken from the Cairo Synagogue and deposited in these caves.”

    Are you not aware that you are making two contradictory statements? Most of the Dead Sea Scrolls are copies of Bible texts. Those who deposited them in the caves lived in the area before 68 AD and left Qumran at that time in the face of the advancing Romans.

  112. Peterson, searingly insightful on this hand, wilfully blind on that. There is an obvious dirth of real honesty and integrity here.
    Is Peterson a prophet of our times or a careerist coward who betrays his own by supporting the parasitic enemy within that would, given the chance (as the Talmud demands), destroy us all?

    The Jewish collective might be possessed of superior intelligence in the material sense but it is spiritually stupid. Nonetheless, it serves a useful function in finding and attacking the weak points in its enemy. Cultural Marxism is loaded with Christian values … the different, the outsider, the gay etc should not be persecuted (as “Christian” societies have been more than happy to do). Maybe the white man is reaping a deserved Karma for blithely participating in the historical crime against other races that is Imperialism (even though recent Imperialism was led and directed by banking Jews).

    From this point of view the Jewish people continue to play a primary role in God’s plan. They always get into trouble, of course, because the gentile eventually works out that all this pleading for Divine values is merely a device for destroying and taking over the host.
    The motivation is Satanic.
    As Jesus declared very clearly 2000 years ago.

    • Replies: @anon
  113. Art says:

    Peterson’s obliviousness to the specificities of Jewish interpretations and uses of the texts he discusses is perhaps even more the case regarding the story of Jacob/Israel and Esau.

    Jacob and Esau were twins – the story is about a family feud between them. Finding anything uplifting in this Jew story is an intellectual stretch. It is a story of dishonesty and betrayal. The brothers and parents all exhibit a lack of a genuine binding love for each other. There is negligible sense of forgiveness. (In the story the brothers do briefly get back together, but separate forever again.) In sick Talmudic Jew think and mythology, somehow this hateful family clash – mushrooms into Europeans and Jews hating each other.

    What is conspicuously absent in both Peterson’s thoughts and the Jew stories – is the role of “love”, and the idealism that goes with it. In his shallow dispute with feminism, Peterson ignores the great loss of love between people that results because of selfish feminism. Clearly feminism is anti-family. The evidence is overwhelming that without a father in the family, children will suffer. The foundational exchange of love between father and daughter is lost to humanity. Boys learn respect for women from their fathers.

    Fathers and mothers pass on love for the opposite sex. Natural affection between fathers and daughters and mothers and sons form the successful chain of love being forwarded between human generations.

    Peterson gets individuality as a human need – but falls short on understanding the need for rational loving interactions between individuals. Humanity needs both.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  114. Saxon says:
    @crimson2

    The real death cult is allowing your territory to be made into someone else’s by “immigration” (invasion).

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  115. HBM says:

    An excellent and necessary article.

    Jung’s work was a response to the Jewishness of Psychoanalysis. Freud posited an allegedly universal psychology (one derived from Western/Greek conceptions– like the Oedipal Complex, which is the centerpiece of his theories) in which the psyche is analyzed as words, and reduces to chaos, agression, and sexual depravity.

    As Jung says in the quote above, “This is not Aryan psychology.” Jung’s psychology of images and creativity and natural drive towards wholeness and health was an intended antidote to the Jewishness of Freud.

    That Nietzsche ultimately was not the father of the German National Socialists and would have had no truck with them is a scholarly fiction, not least because of his intellectual formidability; the Jewish intellectuals who followed Nietzsche in the early 20th century dealt with this problem by treating him as something he was not and framing his concerns as more typically Jewish: they re-cast Nietzsche the ontologist into a linguist. They thereby gave birth to postmodernism and its derivatives. Problem solved.

    The Hebrew scriptures are fictions mostly composed in the Hellenized world, probably in the Library, with access to its shelves, which among other things explains why the Jewish scriptures borrow from sources that existed thousands of years before they did and from thousands of miles away. Modern archaeology and textual analysis makes all this clearer by the day, although this work has been going on for 40 years.

    The Bible stories of Moses and Jacob and David– and the rest, are retrohistorical fictions, written in 300BC– not 1000BC. The Hellenized Jews who composed them were ethnic propagandists with their sights set on the Greeks who ruled them and, ironically enough, who had taught them almost everything they knew about intellectual production. These are the Hellenized Jews, like Philo, who allegedly ‘worked to reconcile Jewish and Greek tradition and thought’– another falsehood, since what they were really doing was laboring to retro-historicize and propagandize themselves into the superior progenitors of the Greeks, despite the fact that before the Greeks, Jews had no intellectual tradition or history to speak of.

    Jordan Peterson is a clown.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  116. jhan says:

    Great post.
    Where do you find the time to dig all that up?

    I do find myself wondering about the parallels of the ‘Jewish question’ in Europe and the impeding ‘Muslim question’ now rising in Europe. The problem is the same: non-integration and adversarial behavior by a tight knit group living among individualists.

    Does anybody have a non-violent solution?

    Demuslimfy through propaganda perhaps?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Svigor
  117. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Can’t your handlers realise that your “contributions” on UNZ so far have been counter-productive? No?

    LOL!

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
  118. jhan says:
    @AaronB

    Those Europeans who see through all of this might need to learn the lesson well and follow the example. Split off from the mainstream Europeans (a.k.a. fools) and form a self-segregating cult of their own that mimics the behavior. If you call it a religion you can get away with all kinds of practices that otherwise would be condemned by society (ritual slaughter, circumcision, discriminatory choice in partner based on ‘religion’, etc). So it does serve as a perfect cover for a little benign racism (endogamy, in-group preference, ethnocentrism).

  119. anon[628] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThereisaGod

    Maybe the white man is reaping a deserved Karma for blithely participating in the historical crime against other races that is Imperialism

    whites did nothing to these groups that they didn’t also do to each other, only whites have become the convenient scapegoat because (((someone))) controls the narrative

    how many tribes did the Zulus exterminate on their way down from central Africa?
    how many tribes got wealthy from catching and selling their own black brothers into slavery?

    during the same period of time that 400k African slaves were brought to North America, about a million Europeans were taken into slavery by North African barbary pirates – why does nobody talk about them?

  120. anon[628] • Disclaimer says:
    @crimson2

    Peterson is an unstable nutbag

    like notices like

  121. @Alfred

    Well? At least we have here four pathetic brains shoving their rag flag.

  122. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @jhan

    Does anybody have a non-violent solution?

    Yes. Seize the assets of Soros and his ilk and use it to bribe the trash and their countries of origin to take back the “vibrants”. Mass bloodshed averted.

  123. @Art

    I do not think so? Essau was older and stronger, But Jakob was pet of his mother.
    Essau was about to inherit everything but The mother and younger son did play trick on dying father.

  124. Goy Woke says:

    Incredibly informative article. One thing that surprised me the most is that in 1870, Wagner already suffered the same thing we do and warned Nietzsche, namely even in 1870 being called an antisemite (at least in Germany) could be career ending. That blows my mind. I assumed that it was only after the “holocaust” that Jews gained the power to crush gentiles at will.
    On another note, I have greatly enjoyed the rise of Peterson watching him skewer moronic SJWs with their utterly unprincipled “principles”. I am disappointed to learn about his “so called Jewish Question” piece. Let’s all put pressure on him to wise up or be revealed.
    I have to say that the best thing that I have gotten from Peterson is stumbling across Karen Straughan. She supports what Peterdon gets right and calls out where he fails (though not yet on the Jewish Question as far as I know).

    Dissecting Peterson’s interview with Cathy Newman(?) on Britain’s channel 4:
    YouTube

    Correcting Peterson’s shallow critique of MGTOWs:
    YouTube

  125. @Anonymous

    You are disgusting pos. Mary was pregnant when she married and she did remain faithful to Joseph.
    So cuckold does apply only to you.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  126. Svigor says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Horseshit. Peterson uses these guys, holds them up as his supposed intellectual role models, and gets them all wrong.

    Just shut the fuck up already.

  127. Svigor says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster

    The White race is currently being surreptitiously genocided, so we win that game, too.

  128. Svigor says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Being smarter does not equate to being more virtuous. There is an issue here about race, and an issue here about ideology. Judaism is an ideology. One can join it through conversion. This is something that is not possible for race – I can’t become black or female, save for a future CRISPR rejig of my DNA, and even then I’m not sure how well the whole body system would take such a drastic change at the age of 32!

    Real Jews know who the converts are.

  129. Svigor says:
    @silviosilver

    You seem to have an incurable inclination to miss the point, which was not to evaluate Jung’s psychological theories

    What’s the world coming to, when a Jew can’t jerk off into a potted plant?

    • LOL: Zumbuddi
  130. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Christianity promoting communism…. that was not even a plan. The very first Christians shared everything. That did not last long. Next thing we hear, Paul is collecting money from the gentile Christians to send to the poor Christians in Jerusalem and exhorting followers to work (like work). He who does not work does not eat.

  131. Zumbuddi says:
    @Rurik

    Stosh Cutler — Jewry’s latest Esther: , head of Bend the Arc (yet another tax exempt scam, I’ll wager) —

    On AlJazeera, demanding that Trump and all his followers denounce white nationalism.( view on Unz Video)

    Well, my nappy-headed haradin, when Jews, from Bibi to Chuckie to Adam Schiff and the Kagans on down to the lowliest snowflake SNW denounce Zionism, aka Jewish racism, and prove the sincerity of their word by shuttering every frigging hohoax museum in USA, and getting your holohoax “educators” out of taxpayer schools, Then maybe we can talk.

    Zionism IS Racism

    Zionism is Anti-American

    Anti Americanism Is A Hate-Crime

    • Agree: Rurik
  132. Svigor says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Not on Whites having for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel.

    On that they’re monolithically opposed.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  133. Patricus says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Aren’t they Jews because they identify as Jews? Where they originally came from isn’t relevant. Ultimately we all came from Africa or so is the current thinking.

  134. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    Dumb fuck, those were Jews of the Law, they’re all gone now. They all converted to Christianity or assimilated.

    The Jews of the Talmud, which are the only Jews around now, didn’t even exist yet. Though their forerunners did; they’re the ones who opposed Christ. This is all pretty basic history.

    Crack a book, you mental mendicant.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  135. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    No, he’s just a low-rent, lying sack of shit.

  136. Svigor says:
    @jhan

    Yes: totally destroy the Jews’ reputation.

    Once that’s done, they’ll self-deport.

  137. MarkinLA says:

    I had to laugh my ass off today when driving home and I had Rush Limbaugh on. He was going on about how Max Boot used to send him advance copies of his articles and how good they used to be. He was wondering why all of his articles are deranged now that Trump is President. He could not (or would not admit it on the air) figure it out.

    I just cannot stop laughing.

    • Replies: @anon
  138. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Correction: Mary was pregnant–by somebody other than Joseph–when she married. Thus, by any rational definition, Joseph was a cuckold. Thanks for showing just how blatantly dishonest you craven Jew-worshipers are. You are the problem. You are why Jews get away with what they do, because you worship them. You are the disgusting pos who believes John 4:22: “We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.”

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Druid
  139. @Anonymous

    Unreal.

    Also, Unoriginal

    Beginning to understand what the German people confronted from 1881 until 1933 when they finally said,
    ENOUGH!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  140. @HBM

    What about Persian influence, or was that mostly Alexandrine/Greek as well?

    • Replies: @HBM
  141. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    You’re another Jew-worshiping fraud committing the NAJALT fallacy, trying to hair-split what can’t be. Jews circumcised then, Jews circumcise now. Jews gonna Jew. And you’re a pathetic wannabee genital mutilator (Philippians 3:3) yourself. Why would you even want to identify as an honorary genital mutilator, hmm? Plus, you’re a blatant liar. You claim the “Jews of the Talmud” didn’t exist at Jesus time. Then, you say they did, well, kinda/sorta/umm…“forerunners.” LOL :) Well, which way is it, pal? Anyway, thanks for the humor. I know I shouldn’t laugh at retards like you, but I still do. A guilty pleasure.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Anonymous
  142. anon[628] • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA

    Hugh Hewitt used to have Max Boot on his show every once in while and talked about him quite a bit.

    i haven’t listened to Salem Broadcasting – Hewitt, Prager, Medved etc in several years but looking back seems like most of the guests were Jewish and if their audience was anything like me they didn’t have a clue about it

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Druid
  143. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    It’s hilarious watching the NAJALT halfwits try to read Jews out of Judaism, while completely ignoring their own Jew Testament, such as Romans 4:9-12 and Philippians 3:3. Jews ritually mutilate male genitalia, then and now. The whole Buy-bull is obsessed with the practice. And the Bible implies that genetics has nothing to do with being a Jew.

    Jeremiah 4:4 – Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench.

    No circumcision = no magical Jew privilege, even for the genetic ancestors of Jewdah.

    Genesis 17:12 – And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

    Even strangers can be Jewed. Genetics have nothing to do with it.

    It’s like I’m the only one who has ever read the Buy-Bull around here! But it’s kind of fun thumping the thumpers with it, if only because they’re craven Whites who wannabee Jews. Crazy.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
  144. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    I’m an agnostic countersemite, you nitwit. I just don’t suck wiccan schlong.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  145. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    Wow why not just hire a skywriter? “Ima jooooooooooo!”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  146. Anonymous[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    True. This is not the first time (or the hundredth) we’ve faced this particular parasite infestation.

    Quite frankly, I’m failing to see the “clever” aspects of this suicidal strategy.

  147. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilya G Poimandres

    Please folks, read the scriptures first. And look at what is.

    First of all, Jews ( where did that word come from, for descendants of Judah, son of Jacob) are only a part of Israel. There are ten more tribes someplace ‘lost’.

    God had a purpose in choosing someone to become ‘his Nation”. There is a reason. “So the heathen will know…!”
    I do not have time to look up and post all the scriptures that are telling both Israel and the Jews that God is disgusted with them and will “divorce them”. Why do you think God sent prophets to them all the time.

    They were supposed to be a Model Nation. With minimal government.
    Without a king. Based on law. No taxes and a system that started over every 50 years. Nobody could sink into abject poverty for generations, or get filthy rich. Take the trouble to study it. Taking advantage of anybody is one of the things the Lord hates. (Besides serving other gods, which they constantly did).
    Notice that the first time the Jews were mentioned they were at war with Israel.
    Israel was destroyed and taken away by the Assyriens and ceased to exist as a Nation. Judah continued for 500 more years, as God had promised David to have an heir ruling in Judah until Messiah came.
    Notice what happened next.
    Jesus made a new, spiritual covenant that includes everybody, and after the ‘Church’ was established and up and going, Judah as a Nation was destroyed. The City and the Temple destroyed, the people dispersed, no more Temple, no more priesthood. The chosen ones were a big flop.
    The interesting question is, why the project in the first place. But that is not up to debate.

    Take the trouble if you care to, read the gospels and color every verse where Jesus talks to the leaders, clerics, scholars. At times you get the feeling that is all he did. Argue with the pharisees. Many times he told them it was over, they were lousy stewards and he was canceling the contract.
    I don’t know why Christians do not bother to recognize that. It is as plain as the nose on their faces.

  148. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Romans 15: 27 is misleading by itself. Read the previous verse,too.
    Paul was collecting money for the poor church in Jerusalem and was exhorting the Macedonians to donate, as their spiritual teaching came from Jesus (a jew) and the church, who also were jews.
    They received spiritual gifts so to speak, from them, and should help them with material things while they are in need.

    Remember the early Christians lived for the day, sold their belongings and then when it was all gone, they noticed it was not a good idea as they were in need.

    This was not a steady program, milk the gentile Christians to send to Jerusalem, but a situation of ‘brethren’ in need being helped by their gentile brothers.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  149. @Anonymous

    It was semantics argument about justification of the word anti- Semite.
    Circumcision was about hygienic reasons. Not much opportunities to wash in the desert.
    Most of the Arabs still are also circumcised.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  150. Anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I don’t know in general, but when they are talking to you specifically, they seem almost always to be right. Even when as is often the case your interlocutors are not actually Christian.

  151. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    It is not supposed to be uplifting.

    The story is told warts and wrinkles and all.

    And don’t forget Esau selling his birthright for a mess of lentil soup.

  152. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Trying to read Jews out of Judaism morphs into trying to read me into wiccan. You’re desperate now. Do you always have schlong on your mind, faggot?

  153. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Because I’m not. Which makes you a liar. But then you’ve proved that before.

  154. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Circumcision was about hygienic reasons? Liar. That canard has been long debunked. But look at you, defending Jews and Arabs brutality. Typical christfag, always willing to sell out their own for the foreigner. Hoping for your “hundredfold” payola (Matthew 19:29, Mark 10:30) from the Superjew in your Jewrusalem afterlife condo?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  155. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    You’re talking round and round the fact that the Buybull says Jews deserve shekels for their afterlife goodies. “Spiritual gifts.” LOL Never, ever available in Gentile stores! How pathetic of a moron are you to believe that Jews have any special “gifts” to offer? Good grief! Concoct your own native afterlife fairly tale if you’re stupid enough to believe you live after you die. Then at least you don’t owe the Jews shekels for their “free gift.” Free gift, the preacher said. LOL!

  156. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    thumbs up.

  157. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    A well informed article that draws attention to critical questions about Jewish influence in the West from which all the clucking about anti-Semitism is intended to distract attention.

    But the matter of Peterson’s views about Jews or any other question is really of no interest. One has only to hear Peterson on topics relating to his own specialty to realize that he is a man with zero credibility who will say anything, however nonsensical, to get attention or make a buck. Consider, for example, his hysterical rant about people of low IQ. It’s completely bonkers.

  158. Peterson is a con artist. He’s just toying with the goys. He’s just playing everyone along. Leopards don’t change their spots and neither do Jews like Peterson. Peterson is playing the same game Jews have played for over thousand years and if you listen to him carefully he seems to be a schizoid like so many other so called “genius Jews.”

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  159. Art says:
    @anon

    Hugh Hewitt used to have Max Boot on his show every once in while and talked about him quite a bit.

    Hewitt did CNN during the 16 election — they knew he would never embarrass them by noting their bias against Trump.

    He is dishonest – always waving the flag – but never ever saying “Jew”.

    Think Peace — Do No harm — Art

  160. @Anonymous

    Are you in celebration mood? Are you celebrating the murder of those eleven poor old Jews?

  161. JP is simply a pussy who is afraid to stand up to his Master’s.

  162. “… Jews avoided conscription and, in particular, frontline military service”. Voluntarily, or by conscript, Jews have never served in our armed services in any appreciable number. Certainly less than 1%. Contrast that with their over representation in most departments of the US federal government such as state and judicial and one begins to get the picture. They are a genetically tribal raised to be paranoid, a people who cleverly stuck to their script for centuries, keeping us at war, and divided the entire way. With the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 we gifted them control of “our” money, and in so doing, control of our very life. Government departments like the CIA, NSA, Home Land Security are taken right out of their history books. Who ran the KGB for Lenin and Stalin? Who authored the 911 report? Who was in charge of the military budget on 911 (the missing $21+ Trillions)? They are 1 and the same. Boy! We are dumb, and maybe deserving of what’s coming. Do we wake up in time? Let’s pray we do.
    THE BOTTOM LINE as predicted by Dostoevsky
    “When only anarchy remains, the Yid will be in command of everything. For while the Jew goes about preaching socialism, he will stick together with his own”.

  163. HBM says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    According to some– and I agree– the Persian conquest of the 5th C. BC effectively creates Judaism. Before that “Jews” were just more Levantine Semite pagans, like everyone else in the region.

    Persians brought Zoroastrianism (with angels and system of spiritual hygiene taboos and invisible aniconic god and apocalyptic eschatology– and many other of the things we think of as peculiarly Jewish) and imposed new religious standards on the locals, and they set up racial and religious boundaries for “the Returners from Exile”, who may not have been from the area in the first place but were re-settled elites from another part of the Persian Empire working as administrators under orders from the Shah, a process that was common practice in the ancient Levant.

    The biblical books of Ezra and Nehemiah are a sort of hagiography of this process, which includes the construction of the alleged “Second” Jewish Temple by Cyrus the Great himself, who the Jews, for the first time, call a “Messiah”. Some argue that the Persians used this Temple State at Jerusalem as a center for tax collection for that portion of their empire, the new religious practices the locals were forced to embrace helping to fill the coffers.

    The Persians didn’t last very long, supplanted by Alexander’s conquest. This freed the newly-minted “Jews” to develop on their own (and for the elite classes to keep the loot provided by the new religion to themselves). The Greeks were curious about this allegedly unusually holy people they now ruled over that nobody, including Herodotus, had ever heard of. Herodotus had never heard of Jews before, of course, because they were a recent invention.

    Jews lived in very large numbers all over the Mediterranean and have a long and involved history with the Greeks, which includes starting a civil war in Alexandria. And it was Hellenized Jews, particularly the ones in Alexandria, who concocted Jewish “History” using their new Greek learning, and borrowing from the vast textual resources of the Library– the work of Herodotus included.

    The same sorts of Hellenized Jewish intellectuals that claimed Spartans were Jewish in origin or that Alexander spared Jerusalem because Jews were so awesome or that Socrates learned everything he knew from Moses, are the same sort that had then recently authored the Hebrew Scriptures. The Jewish holy book is not myths or fairy tales; it was written under and was targeted directly at the ruling Greeks. It’s retrohistorical ethnoreligious propaganda– a technique Jews learned at what Freud would call the “scene of instruction” under the Persians who had done it to them and so were forced endlessly to repeat the psychological injury compulsively. This trope of historical revision that includes replacing the origins of and then superseding, that in literary terms would be called a metaleptic transumption , is the master trope of Judaism. “Palestine doesn’t exist; we were here first”; “America, White People– never existed”; “(Insert what Jews don’t like here) is a construct– etc.– all from the people who are themselves s made-up.

    Christianity is born in a similar fashion, and is arguably just an extension of this process of Hellenized Jews peddling poisoned tales to their goy rulers, except the next time it was the Romans in charge, and the virus became airborne, so to speak, spreading also to non-Jews, who began to tell their own holy “historical” lies and to imitate the Jews’ compulsion for revision.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @utu
    , @SolontoCroesus
    , @anon
    , @Art
  164. @niteranger

    Sigh.

    That about does it for this thread, I guess.

    When threads like this aren’t moderated, it’s inevitable that the lunatic-grade commenters drown out the voices of reason.

    The sad thing is, it’s simplicity itself to keep the lunatics out. Greg Johnson does that day in, day out at Counter Currents. (I can’t say I really like or agree with the guy, but credit where it’s due.) It’s not that the lunatics don’t try to comment there. He just refuses to post their lunacy. So I just don’t get why the lunatics are given free rein here.

  165. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Svigor

    Some are. Some aren’t. It is very far from monolithic. Regardless, I don’t notice any difference in the political opinions of the Jews I know and the non-Jews I know.

    Also, Israel is extremely ethnically diverse with a huge proportion of the population being immigrants. Indeed, it is more diverse in these things than the US and it is more religiously diverse too.

    Yes, a Yemenite Jew and a Polish Jew share a semi-mystical connection but so do an Irish Catholic and a Mexican Catholic. They are in the same communion.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @annamaria
  166. utu says:
    @HBM

    I got curious and read several of your older comments. You are one of the best Judeo-realist writer here. You should write more about Jews and Judaism history and the cultural master code that drives them.

  167. annamaria says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    “… they’re not uniformly innocent…”

    Not all people get cancer from smoking but many do. The paper is about the malicious side of the Jewish ethnocentrism, which has been damaging the fabric of a “host” society.

    “They violently attacked everything about German society. They despised the military, the judiciary, and the middle class in general.” — That was written about the greatest European civilization. You can substitute “Russia” for “Germany” and the words would stand true to the facts.

    As for the hapless Ek. Young, “Masha” Gessen, Remnick (the defiler of the previously decent New Yorker), Alperotovitch (the key figure in Russiagate), Brin (the self-proclaimed “refugee” from Russia and assailer of the freedom of speech on the industrial level) and other “experts” in Russia, it is never too often to remind them that the documentary “Two Hundred Years Together” has been sequestered by ALL publishing houses in the UK and the US not because the documentary is “unpopular” but because a translated version (from Russian to English) of the documentary is too damaging to the meme of “eternal Jewish victimhood.”

    The main argument of the above article is crystal clear:
    “Dostoevsky … argues that it would be suicidal for Western civilization to abandon its religious, ethnic, and historical identities.” … “When cohesive, ethnically networked and highly competent groups with their own interests remain in a nominally individualist society, they easily dominate the individualists and are able to shape the culture to conform to their interests.”
    — See, Fidelios Automata, for example, the ongoing Wars for Israel in the Middle East.

  168. @HBM

    Very informative, thank you HBM.

    Haven’t done what Utu did but I will. I’m especially interested in the transition from Roman gods to Christianity in the first 2 centuries AD

  169. anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @HBM

    26 th dynasty of Egypt enlisted the skills of the Jewish people against the troublesome Ethiopians in the early part of the 6th century BCE. Egypt’s pharaoh Psametich II recruited the local Jewish population to protect the southernmost part known as Elephantine (Jeb ) against any Ethiopian invasion. North eastern front was manned by Jewish forces as well .This section arrived in Egypt after fall of Judea to Babylonia in 586 BCE.

    525 BCE introduced revolutionary changes in Egypt Persia Palestine. Persia conquered Egypt .Persia was looking for ally to safeguard the empire from hostile population of Egypt . Jeb offered them the help they needed Jews used to live there The jewish troops in Jeb readily joined the Persian. They were after all mercenaries of a sovereign ( Egyptian ruling class) that had ceased to exist .Switching loyalty was not a significant social political psychological or ethical departure for the local Egyptian Jews .

    The Origin of The Inquisition in Fiftenth Century Spain 2nd Edition .B Netanyahu .

    • Replies: @HBM
  170. annamaria says:
    @utu

    Thank you for the well-deserved reference to Sam Harris. He is an exhibit one for an indecency generated by the ethnocentric memes.

    Harris and his kind of “intellectuals” lose their marbles and become blood-thirsty aggressive when following the Jewish mythology’ dictates of unconditional hatred towards “Amalekites” (Persians, Spaniards, Russians, Germans, Arabs, Syrians….).
    These “intellectuals” represent the Purimized minds.

  171. annamaria says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    “…stream-of-consciousness rambling…”

    What is the relevance of your “stream” to the main topics of the above article?

  172. Johan says:

    I’ve discussed previously—a slow shift of Jews from the traditional Left (where extensive, unpredictable anti-Israel sentiment is making it a cold house for Jews), to a new milquetoast center that defends and promotes Israel, babbles about free speech, and attracts the unsophisticated with token gestures to the Right (opposition to the more extreme expressions of the LGBT agenda, objections to trans terminology, and baiting the odd Muslim) without ever broaching matters of race or immigration in a meaningful way, and certainly without ever acknowledging the Jewish Question as a reality.

    That basically describes the major part of the European right and how it became popular. In the Western Judeocracies everyone is either afraid, corrupt, infiltrated, used or kept ignorant. The now obliged Muslim bashing (instead of intelligent criticism) isn’t mentioned though.
    Thumbs up for the extensive article

  173. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Saxon

    The real death cult is allowing your territory to be made into someone else’s by “immigration” (invasion).

    Immigration is only half the problem. State mandated sex education that treats reproduction as the only sexual vice, plus legalized porn, and Hollywood crap is what is genociding the European peoples, none of which have a fertility rate equal to the replacement rate (and the fertility rates of the European nations are much lower than the published rates, which are increasingly determined by the fertility of non-European immigrants — for example, in the UK, Libyan women have a fertility around three times the national average).

    • Replies: @anon
  174. Art says:
    @HBM

    Persians brought Zoroastrianism (with angels and system of spiritual hygiene taboos and invisible aniconic god and apocalyptic eschatology– and many other of the things we think of as peculiarly Jewish)

    Hmm — how many nukes do the Jews have pointed at their historical intellectual creators today?

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

    • Replies: @anon
    , @HBM
  175. This is in the top five articles I’ve ever read on Unz. He really nails what is so nauseating about Jordan Peterson. His digging on Nietzsche is fascinating–I am one who once read nearly all of Nietzsche, and never particularly liked him, certainly not Zarathustra. Interestingly enough, I read just a few years back a book of I think four long essays, over fifty pages each or so, from the young Nietzsche which struck me as thoroughly good. One was on Wagner–very pro. In another he makes a staggering comment on our masters, to the effect that they can turn anyone or anyone’s works into anything they want–his words need to be read to get the effect. Can the author or anyone else point to some (presumably long-ago obscured) works which go into further detail on Nietzsche’s selling out? (Perhaps the letters of Cosima or some things by Wagner himself?)

  176. @daniel le mouche

    I mean more information about this schism in N., and which of his writings can be considered genuine and good, which Ree influenced and garbage (I already know from the article of Human All Too Human for the latter category). Anyone with this level of understanding out there on this question?

  177. So far Zionist achieved the first step around world. Destruction of inherited nobility of nations.
    They are now in the middle of the second step, Destruction of national character of states.
    The third step will be destruction of states all over the world and creation of one state world, with one world government.

    • Agree: renfro, mark green
    • Replies: @anon
  178. anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @daniel le mouche

    further detail on Nietzsche’s selling out?

    iirc Mike Jones claims that Nietzsche did not so much “sell out” as fry his brain, with drugs or sex/ syphilis. The progress of these diseases tends to make the sufferer feel like superman the closer he gets to death. So N. was spinning out of control at the end, writing crazy. Same as Sartre.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  179. klokman says:

    Until today I’d never heard of Andrew Joyce. Perhaps I’m a dino, but my attention in life has been on other matters that struck me of greater import. Curiosity lead me to read his refutation of JP, he being one of those fleeting success philosopher quacks in the tradition of “the disease of which it claims to be the cure” and “unmaskers of the insignificant, swindlers of the significant.” (Karl Kraus)

    Somewhere between a fourth and a third of Andrew’s pseudo-treatise I recognized the pontification, plagiarization, and parasitical tendencies inherited from his ancient ideological progenitors. Those people that Robert Wolfe asserts were Habiru, of which he says:

    “For 100 years, archaeologists had been unearthing
    clay tablets in the Middle East which made reference to a group of
    people variously described as “Habiru” or “Apiru” in the scholarly
    literature. Hundreds of such references were found, all dating from the
    2nd millenium BCE. None of these clay tablets discussed the Habiru at
    length but rather made reference to them in passing in some larger
    context. Sometimes the Habiru were described as mercenaries, other
    times as day laborers, yet other times as bandits. The Biblical scholars
    were in general agreement that the reality behind these different
    descriptions was that of bands of armed men, most of them fugitives,
    who camped on the outskirts of the more settled areas and made a living
    as best they could.”

    From what I have been able to ascertain, they were a rag-tag bunch who had a massive inferiority complex along with a colossal chip on their shoulder because of their marginalization by those who they had a habit of plundering. These apparently, were the progenitors of the Hebrews. Does Wolfe know what he’s talking about? Does Joyce? Do any of the scholars cited? I’m not in a position to decide the matter, although there are legion here who so believe.

    One thing I have noticed over a full business career, first in business, then in religion, then in mass movements of all kinds; the mentality and ideology, even down to some of the neurosis of the founder of such, takes on a life of its own within the mass movement, long after the founder’s demise or dismissal, and continues on no matter the gender, origin, or DNA of those that attach themselves to it. It becomes an identity of its own, and generates its own Mythology.

    As it turns out, there are some personalities in this world who just can’t lay to rest a slight, or an offense, and like the bite of a mosquito or oak mite, must persist in scratching at the itch until it festers into a full-scale infection. Then they turn like children to glorying in their affliction and self-generated victimization in mass commiseration.

    Aye….

    The chatter here in these comments is a swollen circular current, like that in a dynamo run wild, building to an explosive state that lets loose all the windings, laminations, bearings, and superstructure. Just what the Habiru have always seemed to want, whether in the ancient primogeniture feuds of Jacob and Esau, Isaac and Ishmael, Enki and Enlil, or the modern feuds over identity. I hear from the genealogists that by the 8th generation back, there’s not enough original DNA to lay claim to any specific ancestor, and by the 10th generation, virtually everybody is related to everybody else in these times. Well, that remains to be seen, but for the interim, the peoples of this world are doing a great job of feuding with their distant cousins.

    “The world demands that we be responsible to it, not to ourselves.”–Karl Kraus

    • Replies: @anon
    , @HBM
  180. @Anonymous

    What sort of rates is the Jewish Internet Defence Force offering these days? Asking for a friend. ;)

  181. Druid says:
    @advancedatheist

    So true, it’s the globalist and self-imposed “other” in them. They feel that they keep running when things in a country go south. Have done it everywhere. Where next, Angola, China?

  182. Druid says:

    I really don’t understand why I have to post multiple times to “agree” with comments. I wish that could be changed.

  183. Druid says:
    @anon

    She truly is a horror, in every way.

  184. Druid says:
    @Durruti

    DO NO HARM!! Absolutely! Either wittingly and try to be to do no harm unwittingly.

  185. Druid says:
    @anon

    Medved is on all the time and I have avoided that Zionazi like the plague for a long time!

  186. @anonymous

    I knew of Nietzsche’s mental health problems at the end of his life, which are common knowledge in, say, any intro to any of his books. What I have never heard till now is that he was under Jewish influence, specifically this Dr. Ree, nor that his thought was so disparaged by Wagner. Regarding that last point, it’s funny how what we always DO hear of is HIS thoughts on WAGNER, but not vice versa. Sartre was a sex maniac drug addict, not my idea of the ideal philosopher. His Jews book is really crap. I did like Nausea, perhaps because he was young when he wrote it, and I haven’t been able to get through a single other important book by him, just a few plays and his short autobiography. He seems to have been diabolically driven (the drugs helped), but overall I think he will be relegated to the dustbin.

  187. He was further accused of anti-Semitism for implying that Jews avoided conscription

    LOL.

    I demand the following anti-semitic websites be banned for portraying Jews as being uneager to give their lives for the Czar and Holy Mother Russia:

    “[chabad.org] You Will Never Be the Czar’s Soldier

    Now, the Czar’s army was no place for a Jew who wished to follow Jewish tradition—or even remain alive. It was no secret that Jewish conscripts were treated worse than their fellow soldiers

    [jewishmag.com] Escaping Czarist Russia

    Puppa had to flee Russia for a specific reason. He’d been conscripted in to the Russian Army.

  188. @advancedatheist

    Jews know they come across as pieces of sh*t, they just don’t care because they know they’re in charge.

    Also, no, their time horizon is very low. It took them 300 years to gradually take over the West.

    It’s Whites who are short-sighted and always willing to forgive jews even when they openly call for our genocide.

    How many times have we kicked them out only to let them back in.

  189. garys says:

    Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade–regardless of affiliation or consequences. Everywhere I go on the internet– I am finding the fear of censorship—a fear of crossing the antisemitic Rubicon.

    The talmudic jews were initiators of most of the worlds major revolutions [emancipation for g-d's chosen] resulting in the deaths of 10s of millions of Christians–and currently millions of Muslims. We watching–when the news media decides it’s news worthy–the real genocide of the Palestinians–who have the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The recent bombing of 80 locations in Gaza [hours after the synagogue shooting in Pa] has not been covered by any news media–the genocide–no longer news worthy.

    See Jordan Peterson on the rights of free speech. He states that truth creates “inhabitable space”–the lack of truth therefore creates “uninhabitable space’. We are now in a twilight zone which is creating escalating rates of mental illness worldwide [WHO]–while the 2nd leading cause of death for teenagers in America is suicide. We are letting our children and our communities down with this malignant lie of omission.

    So here’s the solution. We have to address and acknowledge the Primary Conflict which now threatens the survival of humanity. It is the age old conflict between the jew and the gentile that goes back to 1200 BC (https://www.patreon.com/posts/jews-evicted-2-21092422. Why is that important–because it is not the talmudic jew against the Palestinians or the Germans–it’s the talmudic jew against the world!

    We either stop this campaign of death and destruction–or we go home. Your choice my fellow world citizens!

  190. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    htps://ww.haaretz.com/us-news/christian-leaders-to-netanyahu-you-are-not-welcome-in-tel-aviv-1.6602699

  191. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Because I’m not. Which makes you a liar. But then you’ve proved that before.

    you claiming you’re not doesn’t make him a liar

  192. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Yes, a Yemenite Jew and a Polish Jew share a semi-mystical connection but so do an Irish Catholic and a Mexican Catholic. They are in the same communion.

    no, more like shared delusions

  193. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Think Peace — Do No Harm

    i find myself repeating this during the day – Think Peace, Do No Harm

  194. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @CanSpeccy

    State mandated sex education that treats reproduction as the only sexual vice, plus legalized porn, and Hollywood crap is what is genociding the European peoples, none of which have a fertility rate equal to the replacement rate

    the message i got while growing up in the 1980′s was “just don’t get her pregnant” “just don’t get her pregnant” “OMG teen pregnancy is terrible” “Teen pregnancy is the worst!!”

    also i noticed in my twenties and thirties i seemed to think i had the right to chastise white couples who had more than two children.

    i wonder where i would get ideas like this? its almost like there was a plan

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  195. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    So far Zionist achieved the first step around world. Destruction of inherited nobility of nations.
    They are now in the middle of the second step, Destruction of national character of states.

    in each country the formula for shaming is a little different – in the U.S. it will be about slavery, in Romania they’ll say they didn’t treat the gypsies well, in Australia the poor abbos were prevented from being able to eat each other, etc etc – the end result is that you are supposed to give away your to country to a flood of violent, low IQ invaders – just because the globalists said so

    the goons they have pushing for this scream DIVERSITY! DIVERSITY!! but of course the end result is a monoculture

  196. anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @klokman

    Until today I’d never heard of Andrew Joyce.

    probably he’s never heard of you either

  197. HBM says:
    @anon

    Yes: the Persians wanted the Levant and its inhabitants to serve as a buffer against the Egyptians. The casting of the Egyptians as enemy and oppressor of the Jews and the Jews as their one-time slaves (although without all of the details that would be fleshed-out later in the Greek period, which worked from this premise but having pivoted to target Greeks) may indeed be attributed to the Persians and their original conquest and project.

    The interesting thing about the “Jewish” mercenaries at Elephantine is their letters to Jerusalem that still exist. These Jewish mercenaries serving on the border of Egypt write a letter to Jerusalem to request how they are to celebrate what appears to be Passover, but as if they were unfamiliar with the holiday and what the rituals should entail. That’s strange behavior with respect to their supposedly holiest holiday that was allegedly 500 years old at that point. Of course, if the Persians were running the new show in Jerusalem and had mandated new religious practices, that could very well explain it.

  198. HBM says:
    @Art

    And that is exactly the implication.

    The Jewish animus towards Iran at its deepest level is a sort of Oedipal affair.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Art
  199. HBM says:
    @klokman

    Hellenized Jews who authored the Patriarchal tales used Egyptian records when they wrote their “History”, as any good historian (or historical fiction author) would use source-texts.

    The haibiru are not historical evidence that the Bible story is true.

    The reality is that the tale of the Jews in Egypt from the Bible was based on the haibiru by the Hellenized Jews who wrote it. It’s retrohistorical ethno-propaganda.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  200. Maybe this is off topic, but it is related to jews.
    Can anyone answer the following questions ?
    1 Why do Pittsburg jews do not want Trump there, why do they blame him for nationalism ? Not so long ago, but maybe five years or more, Stephen Steinlight, sociologist, former director of a jewish institute studying immigration,wrote an article on how immigration from the south threatened USA jewry ‘they knew nothing about the holocaust, for them USA jews were just rich Americans’.
    2 Do not Pittsburg jews see Israel as a nation state ?
    3 Why is Trump accused of anti semitism, what should he have done ? Arresting any USA citizen who accepts the slogan ‘no more war for Israel’ ?
    4 Why do I not see anywhere in the world any article discussing the, in my opinion, severe implications of a white man, probably of British origin, probably protestant, who kills some ten jews in a (jewish, the media write, as if there are non jewish synagogues) synagogue, and yells ‘all jews should be dead’ ? Did he commit mass murder because of ‘no more war for Israel’ ? I cannot remember that anything like this, resembling a pogrom, ever happened before in the USA.
    5 Why did not USA jewy use the first burials for making a political statement ? There seem to have been just a few hundred people at the ceremony, I could have imagined tens of thousands of jews demonstrating in Pittsburg
    6 Maybe I missed this, but where is the ADL outcry ? I remember an ADL employee stating ‘it begins with a slight, and ends with the holocaust’. That it would end in (a) pogrom(s) did not enter his mind, at the time, I now realize.

    • Replies: @anon
  201. @HBM

    Do you have an opinion on Shlomo Sand’s “The Invention of the Jewish People”? I found his “How I Stopped Being a Jew” pretty worthless.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @jilles dykstra
    , @HBM
  202. anon[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    6 Maybe I missed this, but where is the ADL outcry ? I remember an ADL employee stating ‘it begins with a slight, and ends with the holocaust’. That it would end in (a) pogrom(s) did not enter his mind, at the time, I now realize.

    it begins with their behavior but for some reason they never figure that out

  203. bjondo says:
    @HBM

    My guess

    not Oedipal

    but lack of subservience to the Toxic Waste Dump; Iran’s support for Palestine.

    Then there is Hizbullah.

    5ds

  204. bjondo says:
    @silviosilver

    “The Invention of the Jewish People”

    The title alone is worth the price.

    5ds

  205. @Fidelios Automata

    Jordan Peterson is mainly interested in combating cultural Marxism from a traditional Christian perspective. However, he has to be very careful because in doing so he is way out on the politically-incorrect skinny branches at the University of Toronto. If he were not to pander to the Zionists and go along with a lot of the PC official-story stuff on things like 9/11, saying at times that Arab terrorists did it, and a host of other plugs he comes out with, he would probably be banished from U of T and from more journals. When you teach and even have tenure at a university and see so many Zio-Jewish philanthropist names over so many new buildings on various campuses, you are going to be exceedingly careful in not biting the hand which is so influential in feeding you.

  206. @silviosilver

    The Invention makes clear what Arthur Koestler in his Thirteenth Tribe already tried to show, the E European jews, the asjkenazi jews, are, completely, or to a large extent, not semites, but descendants of the Khazars, an Asiatic people, that lived somewhere E of the Black Sea, and in the eight or the ninth century decided that their polytheistic religion was out of date.
    They lived between Muslims and christians, did not want to offend either one, so chosee the third monotheistic religion, judaism.
    What happened is not as simple as it sounds, though, semitic jews already lived in the region.
    Kevin Alan Brook, ‘The Jews of Khazaria’, 1999 Northvale
    And Sand seems to have simplified the Muslim occupation of N Africa, maybe he does not read French.
    GAUTIER E.F. LE PASSE DE L’AFRIQUE DU NORD

  207. Anonymous[361] • Disclaimer says:

    “a figure just edgy enough to attract the masses without endangering the status quo; just compliant enough to merit promotion; and just enough of a “folksy cowboy” to entangle himself with a clique that trashes his own heroes because they weren’t quite so compliant.”

    What the author is describing is a poorly-disguised establishment stooge, a disinformation agent, a figure of controlled opposition. That is Peterson in a nutshell, and if he were anything more than that, the cultural elite would have shut him up long ago, instead of giving him of a platform within the mainstream media and publishing industry.

    • Agree: CanSpeccy
  208. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @anon

    the message i got while growing up in the 1980′s was “just don’t get her pregnant” “just don’t get her pregnant” “OMG teen pregnancy is terrible” “Teen pregnancy is the worst!!”

    That has long been the message and it’s a useful message when schools don’t hand out condoms, contraceptive pills and abortion pills.

    Knowing that getting pregnant is a bad thing for an unmarried teenager means that it only happens when she’s under the influence of an irresistible impulse, which is to say when seduced by a really sharp lad or a truly imposing man. Hence the well known fact that among the most remarkable individuals there are many bastards.

    But contraception and publicly funded abortion plus the abortion pill have destroyed a sound breeding strategy.

    also i noticed in my twenties and thirties i seemed to think i had the right to chastise white couples who had more than two children.

    There’s the proof of a plan for European genocide. A limit of two children per woman is below the population replacement rate, even if every woman has children, which is not the case. A two-child limit ensures population implosion. Combined with mass immigration, a two-child policy amounts to a plan for white genocide and replacement.

    That no European nation has an openly acknowledged population policy confirms that there is a plan for the genocide of the Europeans as both racial and cultural entities. The aim is the Third-Worldization of the World’s most powerful nation states as a prelude to full globalization under the governance of non-democratic international bodies.

  209. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Fred Baggins

    If he were not to pander to the Zionists and go along with a lot of the PC official-story stuff on things like 9/11, saying at times that Arab terrorists did it, and a host of other plugs he comes out with, he would probably be banished from U of T and from more journals.

    So what you’re saying is:

    (a) The scholarly journals are run by progs or cowards subservient to the progs (cf Angelo Codevilla’s explanation of the character of a prog in his account of America’s second civil war).

    (b) The university of Toronto is likewise run by progs or those who surrender to the power of the progs.

    (c) Peterson won’t challenge the progs for fear of losing his lifetime index-linked professorial salary and pension, which is to say, he has no balls.

  210. @Fred Baggins

    Your argument is like the ones for Obama and Trump. He wants to do the right thing, but can’t. I say bullshit. 911 is an excellent litmus test for who’s bullshitting and who’s not. This JP is bullshitting. So is: every single US politician, literally everyone in media (even Tucker Carlson, presumably, I don’t watch the shit), and names like Chomsky, Zinn (now dead), Nader, Alexander Cockburn (now dead), Michael Parenti, etc., i.e. all the vast number of ‘outsiders’.
    And what a bunch of lousy comments on this excellent article. Very few can be real thinkers, there’s no time, but what a world of lousy nothings that make no attempt to discover, and do not respect, the truth.

  211. anon[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fred Baggins

    Jordan Peterson is mainly interested in combating cultural Marxism from a traditional Christian perspective.

    no no no

    go over to Vox Popoli and read what has been posted over there

    Peterson’s a globalist fraud who has worked for the U.N.

  212. Joe862 says:
    @Fred Baggins

    He says over and over he’s not political. He’s not really interested in the subject and doesn’t know much about it. He brings up Ashkenazi jew IQ to make a point about distribution. He doesn’t really care if it’s true since the specific group isn’t that important. He should just stop using that example. Otherwise he’s encouraging people to be responsible and take on some responsibility. What could possibly be wrong with that? His personality may or may not appeal to people but it seems to me he serves a purpose. If men would really apply themselves to their education and work a lot of our problems wouldn’t be nearly as bad. If people were frugal and careful with money the political landscape would be far different.

  213. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “…a Yemenite Jew and a Polish Jew share a semi-mystical connection…”

    In reality:
    A Polish Jew – do procreate and the Jewish State will enumerate your efforts (see Mileikowsky: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/28/who-and-what-is-the-real-bibi-netanyahu/
    A Yemeni Jew – the Jewish State does not need your progeny: https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/#4fecd34c67b8

  214. Josecanuc says:
    @AaronB

    “Someone please wake me up when the discussion becomes about fixing the weak links of European culture. that are so easily exploited by literally everyone else – materialism, rationalism, and individualism.”

    The Aztecs were also convinced that they were a chosen people. They believed that their Sun G-d had chosen them to feed him the hearts of human sacrifices. But I can’t visualize the Aztecs putting on happy face masks then blaming and taunting their victims for having such ‘weak’ characteristics ‘ that are so easily exploited like materialism, rationalism, and individualism’‘. (All of which inane pointless meaningless terms that only a charlatan like you would put in front of naive uneducated imbeciles to ‘diddle’ and draw their consciousness away from reality (truth).

    Nahman Syrkin didn’t ridicule and blame the goy for any weak characteristics in 1898 when he wrote: “The Jews are an incurably bad people, a people always seeking its own benefits and wanting to enslave the world, a people which in spite of all its efforts to assimilate, still remains strange and hostile to the non-Jews. The Jew is the torchbearer of capitalism, exploitation, usury, and suppression. At the same time, he is also the yeast of history, upsetting and destroying all that is stable, the troublemaker incarnate. In short, the Jewish people is the curse of humanity.” (The Zionist Ideal, pp 337)

    The goy or ‘dirty, cattle’ have so many awful characteristics that it would take a gifted scholar such as Andrew Joyce or Kevin MacDonald to write a book about them.

    But perhaps I can report what I think the Jews would do if (*YHWH forbid’) the goy-Jew situation was changed, transformed and the Jews were the human victims and the goy the degenerate psychopaths.

    First the Jews would sue the goy. It would be a class action suit of course for all the past and present victims of the psychopath goy. Everything is in the ‘literature’ and on ‘the congressional record’ so the Jews know how easy it would be to illustrate ‘beyond any reasonable(sane) doubt’ that the goy controls Israel’s ‘democracy’ and is utilizing Israel to front for them and fight their wars in order to fulfil their Holy hallucination that they were chosen by God to be mankind’s blessing and light, uplift humanity heal and cure and acquire the earth.

    It’s all on the record. The Jews would easily prove that in just one month – August 2018 – 50 Jewish legislators had to fly to Washington DC to pay homage to their puppet masters and bootlick and kowtow before their goy Puppet Masters in order to ensure they are reelected since the goy control the mass media, academia – in fact EVERYTHING in Israel.

    If the class action suit before the goy’s supreme court doesn’t succeed the Jews would go to Russians and the Chinese – the last two great powers not yet entrapped by the goy – within their ‘magic circle’ and wake them up to the fact that the only hope Russia and China has to prevent from being encircled within the ‘magic goy circle’ and then oppressed and exploited – would be for them to call for – request a world wide convention of ‘scientists’ of all fields to come together in an attempt to answer the question:

    “Who are behind these forces which are now making the world so extremely unsafe and so very
    inhospitable to (the) individual freedoms (of nations)?” Aldous Huxley 1958

    Since a ‘scientist’ is defined simply as one who collects and analyzes facts it means that the thousands of other people similar Andrew Joyce, Kevin MacDonald and everyone else who collects and analyzes facts about the goy – and who comes to conclusions based on those facts – is a ‘scientist’ too and can put his two cents in.

    “If (scientists and) scholars (world wide) will only be persuaded to lay aside their prejudices and apply themselves to studying the evidences…I shall be fully content to await the final decision.” Charles Peirce

    That’s what the Jews would do if they found themselves being used and exploited by the goy the same way the goy are being exploited, misused and corrupted by the Jews who then ridicule and taunt them and blame them for their predicament because they have ‘weak characteristics’ while wearing a ‘happy smiling face’ mask.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @AaronB
  215. Joe862 says:
    @AaronB

    jews have, for thousands of years, functioned as minorities living amongst people they seek to exploit. It’s obvious to anyone who thinks about it that this is limited. Fully functioning cultures will have a large working class consisting mostly of people who aren’t particularly smart or savvy. In order to have a functioning culture it needs to be socially unacceptable to exploit and corrupt those people especially, or anyone else. obviously. The only person who would think it’s ok is one who doesn’t care about long-term viability because they’ll just move on to a new population when the existing one is depleted. There aren’t infinite hosts, though. That strategy won’t last forever and has lots of downside as well.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  216. anon[184] • Disclaimer says:
    @Josecanuc

    At the same time, he (the jew) is also the yeast of history, upsetting and destroying all that is stable, the troublemaker incarnate.

    this

  217. AaronB says:
    @Josecanuc

    You are right. I apologize. There is nothing that needs to be fixed in European culture. Jews just got a temporary advantage over you because you didn’t know what they were up to – all you have to do is make people aware of this and things will change. People simply don’t realize, and need to be informed. Once they know, all will be well.

    • Replies: @Josecanuc
  218. Art says:
    @HBM

    The Jewish animus towards Iran at its deepest level is a sort of Oedipal affair.

    The Persian Zoroastrian god was the god of the whole universe, and the Persians treated other tribes well – the egotistical selfish Jews recreated the Persian god for themselves and hated all other tribes.

    It is unbelievable, but three thousand years later – that contrast still exists. The Torah is hateful – the Talmud even more so. And Israel would like to nuke Persian Iran.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  219. mcohen says:

    I am disappointed in all the anti jew posters on unz.11 jews were shot dead by a right wing white man and yet no one is celebrating.Strange.

  220. HBM says:
    @silviosilver

    When I first saw the title I thought: “This will be good” and I was eager to read it. I left it underwhelmed. It still is a good title for a good book– but not Sand’s.

  221. @mcohen

    Being critical of jewry is not anti jew, being critical of jews does not mean one wants them killed.
    I for one just want that they change their behaviour, not make the USA wage the wars some jews want, not causing, or trying to get, the mass immigration in Europe, not creating derivatives, not terrorising Palestinians.
    On top of all this, I wonder, fear, how jewish propaganda will use the Pittsburg slaughter.

  222. annamaria says:
    @mcohen

    You mean, it is surprising for you that other cultures do not follow the famous Jewish meme, “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks”? (Psalm 137:9)

    The Jewish celebration: “The Israeli government is exploiting the Pittsburgh murders to try to demonize Palestine solidarity:” https://mondoweiss.net/2018/10/government-exploiting-pittsburgh/

    The Jewish State is killing Palestinian children at record rates: https://mondoweiss.net/2018/08/killing-palestinian-children/

    “Palestinian children killed by Israeli forces:” https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/10984259/Revealed-the-Palestinian-children-killed-by-Israeli-forces.html

  223. @mcohen

    You do not know that 11 Jews were shot dead by a right wing white man. You simply saw it on the television.

  224. AaronB says:
    @Joe862

    Actually, the strategy can last indefinitely and you don’t need an infinite number of hosts.

    You need a limited number of hosts, and you only can’t destroy all hosts at the sane time. The strategy is to rotate between hosts. You destroy one host, then move onto another host while the first host is regenerating. So on and so forth.

    All you need to count is people’s amnesia, and since a destroyed host often has to reconstitute itself along entirely new cultural lines, cultural amnesia is almost guaranteed.

    It is more like crop rotation than slash and burn agriculture.

    The only solution is to make your self into a poor host. But since European culture is perfect and nothing needs to change, you merely have to point out Jewish misbehavior and all will be well.

  225. anon[831] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    i’m disappointed in jews. Tens of thousands of whites have been victimized by the (((Sacklers))) of Purdue Pharma pushing their opiates and yet i’ve heard not a peep out of jews. Get back to me when Pittsburgh happens about a thousand times.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Art
  226. annamaria says:
    @anon

    In case mcohen is not aware of the Sackler family (of Polish Jewish immigrants):

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/27/universities-sackler-family-purdue-pharma-oxycontin-opioids

    “Purdue Pharma is owned by the Sackler family. Their wealth exceeds $13bn, and over the years, the family have been generous patrons of medical research at the nation’s leading universities, including Columbia, Cornell, Tufts and Yale.

    Purdue Pharma produces the opioid OxyContin. Purdue told doctors the drug had a low addiction rate, because it was a time-released medication. Alas, this was not the case. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the death toll from OxyContin and related prescription opioids now exceeds 200,000. The federal government estimates that 2.4 million Americans currently suffer from opioid addiction disorders.

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a12775932/sackler-family-oxycontin/

    “The Sacklers have been millionaires for decades, but their real money—the painkiller money—is of comparatively recent vintage. The vehicle of that fortune was OxyContin … was not so much the drug itself as it was Arthur Sackler’s original marketing insight

    As the company later admitted, it misleadingly promoted OxyContin as less addictive than older opioids on the market. … In practice, OxyContin crammed a huge amount of pure narcotic into a single pill…

    The year after OxyContin’s release, Curtis Wright, the FDA examiner who approved the pharmaceutical’s original application, quit. After a stint at another pharmaceutical company, he began working for Purdue. …

    Between 1996 and 2001, the number of OxyContin prescriptions in the United States surged from about three hundred thousand to nearly six million… Hundreds of doctors were eventually arrested for running pill mills….

    Opioid withdrawal, which causes aches, vomiting, and restless anxiety, is a gruesome process to experience as an adult. It’s considerably worse for the twenty thousand or so American babies who emerge each year from opioid-soaked wombs. These infants, suddenly cut off from their supply, cry uncontrollably. Their skin is mottled. They cannot fall asleep. Their bodies are shaken by tremors and, in the worst cases, seizures. Bottles of milk leave them distraught, because they cannot maneuver their lips with enough precision to create suction. Treatment comes in the form of drops of morphine pushed from a syringe into the babies’ mouths. Weaning sometimes takes a week but can last as long as twelve. It’s a heartrending, expensive process, typically carried out in the neonatal ICU…

    … a dozen lawmakers in Congress, inspired by the L.A. Times investigation, sent a bipartisan letter to the World Health Organization warning that Sackler-owned companies were preparing to flood foreign countries with legal narcotics. “Purdue began the opioid crisis that has devastated American communities,” the letter reads. “Today, Mundipharma is using many of the same deceptive and reckless practices to sell OxyContin abroad.” Significantly, the letter calls out the Sackler family by name, leaving no room for the public to wonder about the identities of the people who stood behind Mundipharma.”

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @anon
  227. Art says:
    @anon

    i’m disappointed in jews. Tens of thousands of whites have been victimized by the (((Sacklers))) of Purdue Pharma pushing their opiates and yet i’ve heard not a peep out of jews. Get back to me when Pittsburgh happens about a thousand times.

    a[831],

    How is it the no US politician or US media type will utter the word “Sackler.” They have promoted the opioid, OxyContin in gross dishonest underhanded ways. Their product is killing Americans – yet they escape congress.

    Fear of the Talmudic Jews is total in America. We can not even speak a Jew name without trepidation.

    The Talmudic Jews control Wall Street and Main Street – end of story.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  228. @annamaria

    I do take my opium from commercial ripe poppy seeds. It has only traces of opium.
    It makes me feel good and I am not addicted. Poppy seed is probably the best source of iron and that is very important for women.
    (You are extremely knowledgeable Lady.)

  229. annamaria says:
    @mcohen

    And what are you celebrating, mcohen? It seems that you are trying to judge this forum’ discussants’ moral fiber.

    Here is something to compare to the Pittsburg shooting:

    “Israel targets Gaza’s children. Israeli forces have killed 1,600 Gazan children since 2000″ https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-targets-gazas-children-say-witnesses/

    October 28, 2018

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israeli-airstrike-kills-three-children-in-gaza/

    “Three Palestinian children were killed in an Israeli airstrike bombing that targeted an area to the northeast of the city Khan Younis, in the southern Gaza Strip, said medical sources.

    Red Crescent ambulances pulled the bodies of three children between the ages of 12 and 14. They were taken to Shuhada Al-Aqsa Hospital in Deir al-Balah city, in central Gaza. Israeli army reportedly opened fire toward the ambulances and prevented their access to the scene.”

    — Compare that to the Jewish State’s great care for the “moderate” terrorists of ISIS and the White Helmets provocateurs.

  230. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    https://lobelog.com/israel-crushes-resistance-at-home-and-abroad/

    In addition, reports published earlier that same week by the Jewish Daily Forward revealed that the federation for San Francisco-area Jews – perhaps the most liberal Jewish community in the continental US – has funnelled huge sums, up to $300m by one estimate, to Jewish supremacist groups and white supremacist groups over the past decade and a half.
    Some of the funds were reportedly donated to US polemicists devoted to defending Israel and attacking its critics, such Frank Gaffney, Pamela Geller, Daniel Pipes and David Horowitz.
    However, some of these funds were reportedly donated to groups who work to prevent people of colour from immigrating to the US and Europe, and who have no clear connection to Israel: Groups such as the Tea Party, Project Veritas and the American Freedom Law Center.

    Still more, reportedly went to groups that smear students, professors, journalists and other whistle-blowers who criticise Israeli racism, and try to get them fired from their jobs and banned from entering Israel and Palestine.
    These McCarthyist groups include the Canary Mission, the AMCHA Initiative and the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, and their targets include Jews, including Jews from the San Francisco Bay Area itself – the Jewish Federation’s ostensible constituents.
    These revelations are almost assuredly just the tip of the iceberg. If the leaders of the most liberal communities in the Jewish diaspora are quietly funding the far-right in Israel, the US and around the world, it’s quite likely that the heads of Jewish communities with more conservative inclinations are also bankrolling this beast.

    • Replies: @anon
  231. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    However, some of these funds were reportedly donated to groups who work to prevent people of colour from immigrating to the US and Europe…

    good, if you’re one of these oh so special “persons of color” – build your own country

  232. garys says:

    Two highly professional military officers/academicians of 1950′s reveal what was and is in plain sight:

    “There was another book [written in 1952] very similar in nature– with an author of similar qualifications as Beaty: Captain Archiblad Maule Ramsay–served as a high ranking British officer in WWI and later in his career became as member of British parliament and a personal friend of Neville Chamberlain.

    Ramsay–through research and direct experience uncovered a centuries old conspiracy against Britain, Europe and the whole of Christendom. His book “The Nameless War” revealed a link between all of the major revolutions of Europe–the machine which continues to this day– the plan for supranational world power–the age-old Messianic dream of International Jewry.

    You can download a pdf of the 120 page book at sweetliberty.org.

    Here’s the primary point–which the Djurdjevic touches upon [A “holy war that must be waged unremittingly” against the “gentiles?”] it’s not the talmudic jews against Germany or Palestine–it’s the talmudic jew against the world [all that is not jewish]. Which is why these zealous people have been evicted from over 1000 regions since 1200 BC (https://www.patreon.com/pos…. The Primary Conflict–which goes back millenniums is the conflict between the jew and gentile and it is playing out right in from of our eyes– here in 2018.

    This Primary Conflict must be addressed– if humanity is to continue–while the talmudic jew will do everything to keep this reality under-cover– for two very good reasons: It demonstrates intent with corroborating evidence [history] and secondly–by forcing these two adversaries to the table– it threatens the talmudic jews status–the solution requiring a compromise between equal parties–which is anathema to the talmudic jew–for if the truth be known–it is not the gentile who hates the jew–it is the talmudic jew who hates the gentile.

    So what’s it going to be my fellow world gentiles–are we going to feed the beast of darkness or the spirit of light?”

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    , @Art
  233. In many of his writings, Nassim Taleb’s attitudes toward Jewishness seem congruent with Jordan Peterson’s, yet his analysis suggests something more in keeping with Andrew Joyce’s article here.

    The chapter from “Skin in the Game” that should have caused Taleb to reflect a little more on the problem is here…

    https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

  234. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @annamaria

    thanks, good info

  235. @garys

    Brilliant comment!!! Jewish religion is itself supremacist. God have chosen us not you.
    So you must obey us. It is a little bit primitive. All primitive tribal religions had their own God and they did claim that God have chosen them.

    • Replies: @anon
  236. @Hamlet's Ghost

    The lesson of the JQ is that ‘race realism’ is at best a two-way street. The vilification of WN proceeds from its racism, yet the chief obstacle to WN is the opposition of Jews, who have the highest IQs and therefore should be seen as the most desirable allies. Of course that reasoning is absurd, but gushing about high Jewish IQ doesn’t lead toward an effective rhetorical strategy to gain acceptability and access. Instead, a right-wing Rainbow Coalition would do more to upset the plans of our opponents.

  237. @mcohen

    What really pisses me off about the Jews — many of them — is that they refuse to admit that there’s a gap between being annoyed with them and wanting to kill them. Jews are free to mock and condemn the Christian Coalition, the Roman Catholic church, the Slavs, WASPs, southerners, Muslims, rednecks, Trump voters, etc. etc., but anyone who remarks on anything the least bit unflattering about Jews is marked for ostracism if not jail. That’s a very unbecoming trait that Jews would do well to abandon.

    btw, anyone recall the mass-murder of praying Muslims by fundamentalist Jew Baruch Goldman? To this day, many Jews of his sect defend Goldman and treat his grave as a shrine. You didn’t see a lot of hand-wringing among the mighty when that incident occurred. It was treated as just a crazy man acting crazy when in fact it was a premeditated, theologically based hate crime of the worst sort.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @anon
  238. anon[789] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    the rabbis claim they’ve outdebated God

    why shouldn’t they be supremacists?

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  239. Art says:
    @garys

    So what’s it going to be my fellow world gentiles–are we going to feed the beast of darkness or the spirit of light?”

    Those gentiles who condemn the whole of Christianity can never become part of the “spirit of light.”

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Art

  240. gsjackson says:
    @utu

    “He sees the world through a materialistic lens where everything is mechanical.”

    He claims to have stopped taking anti-depressants only a year ago. So he bought into the “brain chemistry” marketing nonsense, no doubt looking through the materialistic lens.

  241. @anon

    He he! Good one. You have beaten me!

  242. Mike West says:

    Peterson’s best friends are: Wodek Szemberg, Gregg Hurwitz, Norman Doidge, all 3 are Jews & are now also his advisors, as stated in different articles. (Ex search: Jordan Peterson is trying to make sense of the world — including his own strange journey, published on The Star, Toronto newspaper March 2018.) — https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2018/03/16/jordan-peterson-is-trying-to-make-sense-of-the-world-including-his-own-strange-journey.html

  243. annamaria says:
    @mcohen

    The decent Jews on the indecent Jews: https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/about-the-anti-defamation-league/
    ABOUT THE ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE
    “The ADL often [always?] places its concerns for the Israeli government above its concerns for human rights.”

  244. imbroglio says:

    As real live American Jews continue assimilating and being absorbed into the white race so that Jewish-American comes to have the meaning and status of Italian-American, Irish-American and Polish-American, are Joyce and MacDonald going to cry “Halt! Don’t permit the Jewish essence/DNA/whatever to pollute our Aryan bodies and souls?”

    The fear generated by their cowardly fantasies of the The Satanic Jew is wond’rous to behold.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  245. @Victor33

    Your Jewish “owned-and-controlled” news media wouldn’t be possible without the thousands of willing goyim, happy tools on Jewish payroll. Don’t blame the Jew alone, point the finger at your brothers journalists, TV anchors, stars, judges, academics, police officers, legislators, army officers, teachers etc. The Jew is a meager 2%. 98% is his collaborators and your brothers.

    “This juggernaut is to me the hallmark of Jewish stupidity, and historically it will always have the same very predictable and inevitable results, as in the recent Pittsburgh shooting.”

    Wrong! They’ve been doing it for thousands of years and every hundred years the noose around your neck gets tighter. Why is it that after Hitler’s attempt at solving the problem, the problem grew ever bigger? Why is it that never in history the Tribe has had such all-encompassing power as today, after the latest German-Jewish conflict, a conflict, which is on its way to become a new, obligatory, universal religion called “the Holocaust”?

    It is a very conscious, premeditated, brilliant process. Every pogrom eliminates the weak individuals and strenghtens the remaining ones. During every pogrom the Tribe cleanses the weak, the poor, and the less able keeping only the strongest, the richest, and the cleverest. It is a tactic that the goyim have no idea about. It took the Tribe 3,000 years to arrive at an almost total domination of the world. There will be another pogrom, this time world-wide, after which the Tribe will have every human being on the planet in chains. Forever.

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  246. Josecanuc says:
    @AaronB

    you said: “There is nothing that needs to be fixed in European culture.”

    Of course there is – this is why Barbara Rabbi Specter in Sweden and that pharisee “George Soros” and equall pharisee son “Alexander (as in ‘the Great’) Soros” (only the Jews know who else) have been, and will continue to “fix” your “European goyim culture” for the Jews to ensure it becomes even dumber and more insane than ever before.

    you said: “all you have to do is make people aware of this and things will change. People simply don’t realize, and need to be informed. Once they know, all will be well.”

    No once ‘they know’ i.e., the Chinese and Russians and any other nation that have not yet become corralled within ‘the magic Jewish circle’ understand that “Israel” actually literally means ‘May YHWH Rule’ and ‘Man Chosen by YHWH’ and that “Israel stands above all the Nations as the Head Stands above the Body” they can begin to coordinate in an effort to wake up humanity to the fact that unless they begin to reason and see things correctly.

    “People who ignore reality are inviting their own destruction.” James Baldwin

    Einstein said “What has perhaps been over looked is the irrational, even the insane, which apparently Nature puts into the individual for her own amusement.”
    And: “Things should be made (explained) as simple as possible – but not any simpler”:

    “The whole world is mentally ill (irrational), much more so we Jews.” Arthur Ruppin, 1939

    The hapless Christian West and all of its equally unlucky international allies won’t be allowed to recognize this reality because “that would definitely not be good for the Jews”.

    But unless the Chinese and Russians do they will be inviting their subjugation by ‘Man chosen by YHWH” to be their blessing and light, uplift them and heal and cure and acquire their earth.

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  247. Joe862 says:
    @Just curious

    you’re nuts. jewish achievement peaked a while ago and the power will inevitably decline. The smarter ones are having fewer children and intermarrying a lot. The stupid ones are breeding like rabbits. The fear of jewish power has declined quite a bit, as has the sympathy. What exactly is the motivation for putting everyone in chains forever?

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  248. annamaria says:
    @imbroglio

    Tell us more about the assimilation of AIPAC.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
    , @Olorin
  249. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @jack daniels

    Jews are free to mock and condemn the Christian Coalition, the Roman Catholic church, the Slavs, WASPs, southerners, Muslims, rednecks, Trump voters, etc. etc., but anyone who remarks on anything the least bit unflattering about Jews is marked for ostracism if not jail.

    exactly, just look at (((Saturday Night Live))) – one of their favorite skits was “The Church Lady”

    i’m pretty sure they never did anything similar on jews

  250. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @utu

    You miss the significance of Jordan Peterson. He is not a great scholar. He is not a great scientific innovator. In his own field, he peddles the mundane junk science of IQ-ism and personality assessment, etc., although as a clinical psychologist he seems to have some real insight into what makes for an emotionally rewarding life.

    His importance, however, stems not from his standing as a scientist and scholar, but in his staunch refusal to submit to the insane demands of the politically correct tyranny that has taken control of not only entire university schools and faculties, but of the highest ranks of the administration of many universities.

    Peterson has directly addressed the rot that pervades academia in the English-speaking world. He has directly, and at risk to his career, proclaimed the corruption of the academy by Communists, post-modernists, anti-white racists, and man-hating lesbians. The wide recognition he has received amounts to public endorsement of his position. Whether that is sufficient to bring about significant university reform I doubt. But it has gone some way to negate misplaced public confidence in our institutions of so-called higher education. For that I do not think we should begrudge him a measure of fame and fortune.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  251. Aurelio says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    Speaking of taking pains to avoid seeming anti-Semitic, that seems to be what Peterson is doing. He’d be a non-entity overnight if successfully tarred with that brush.

  252. @Joe862

    Putting (and keeping) people in chains has been the eternal, natural goal of every society in recorded history. The word “chains” sports different aspects, appearances and connotations depending on the evolutionary stage of a give social order (e.g., debt). Every civilization has had people in chains, one way or another. Ideally, these slaves would be kept well-fed (e.g., modified corn starch), entertained (TV, Hollywood), ignorant (semi-literate) and happy (tatoos, selfies, loud music, pornography, 2 days vacation in Las vegas etc.). I hate to ruin your day, Joe862, but you got lotsa reading to catch up on LOL…

  253. @Josecanuc

    “all you have to do is make people aware of this and things will change. People simply don’t realize, and need to be informed. Once they know, all will be well.”

    Baudelaire: ‘The supreme glory of Napoleon III… will have been to prove that anybody can govern a great nation as soon as they have got control of the telegraph. They are imbeciles who believe that such things can be accomplished without the permission of the People.’

    • Replies: @daniel le mouche
  254. @daniel le mouche

    Sorry, when I copied that I thought it meant CANNOT be accomplished. As my quote stands, I thoroughly disagree with it.

  255. Skeptikal says:

    ” It was feared that otherwise Jewish internal cohesion and self-segregation would allow them to obtain a leading role in town institutions and give them an advantage in resolution of public issues. [emphasis added]”

    This sounds similar to what occurred in some towns in Oregon when followers of some guru went out there and all settled in the town and more or less took over the municipal govt of the town. By sticking totether as a group and pushing their group interests.

    Also similar to waht has occurred in I think the town in Bloomingdale or some such in Westchestre County, New York , as a result of targeted settlement there of fundamentalist Jews from Brooklyn.

  256. Olorin says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Peterson has directly addressed the rot that pervades academia in the English-speaking world. He has directly, and at risk to his career, proclaimed the corruption of the academy by Communists, post-modernists, anti-white racists, and man-hating lesbians.

    This is absolute nonsense. The same argument is made around Bret Weinstein at The Evergreen State College.

    I presume you are not in the Ed Biz, or you would know there are countless thousands of men and women in those institutions who despise what “higher ed” has become.

    But they are not empowered to “proclaim the corruption of the academy.”

    Have you never paused to wonder why that is? I.e., why a handful of Petersteins and Weinsteins, with their vast network of globalist contacts in common, ARE so empowered, but no one else is?

    His “wide recognition” owes to agreement among media-owners, particularly the new media millers of eCelebs, to advance his proclamations. If they really cared about the issues, and actual challenge to globo-bolshie academia, they would be making it safe for ALL dissenters to speak up, speak out, and be protected in their livelihoods.

    They would, in other words, aid and assist these people in their efforts to change the institutions from within. But these people are not powerful, are not connected to institutions or media or secret groups who disperse and dispense access and power. So they must tiptoe around on eggshells while the Weinsteins and Petersons get constructed as objects of hero worship, as high intellects, as substitute fathers. All the while set up to distract young White men from the burgeoning movement toward Whites establishing a racial identity, and common political, social, biological, and cultural interests–as other races are encouraged to do. (Peterson has repeatedly admitted that this is his goal–to nip in the bud White identity among young Whites; to keep it from gaining traction; to weaken its brand.)

    What Mr. Joyce has unpacked is the factually weak and dishonest intellectual basis of these eCelebs, and I’m not alone in appreciating the immensity of his effort in doing so. Unfortunately the eCeleb mills will simply incorporate HIS intellect into their promotion of their fleshy spokesbots. They will not acknowledge him or give him no credit whatever. They will mine his mind…and then continue on the usual path of Big Data and Big Internet and Silicon Valley in general persisting in their efforts to interfere in American elections and overturn their results, while punishing anyone who openly dissents outside of their controlled celebrity opposition.

    • Agree: Them Guys
  257. Olorin says:
    @annamaria

    Another excellent example is how the ADL and SPLC never find FEWER cases of “anti-Semitism” year over year. Always more.

    That isn’t assimilation. That’s doubling down on race war against Whites.

    Though it should be interesting to see how their bean-counting will go now that blacks in NYC are attacking synagogues and the more Woke bruthas are once again reading Nation of Islam writings on the history of black/jewish relations in the US.

    I witnessed both NoI and incipient Rainbow Coalition movements in my vast-majority-black-by-then home city in the ’70s and ’80s. The example I like to use is how, at the point where Jesse Jackson started talking about the JQ from the hip, in the colloquial style of big city people, his slave collar was yanked hard.

    https://web.archive.org/save/https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1984/3/5/jesse-and-the-jews-pbtbhis-is/?page=single

    Michael Hirschorn–who penned that detailed hit job on Jackson–went on to become an Executive VP at Viacom. He started out as an editor at Esquire, he started up Ish, he writes for The Atlantic. He is, as Business Insider write, The Whole Matrix.

    Quoting himself of course.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20181106221102/https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-hirschorn-is-the-whole-matrix-2010-5

    Now imagine you’re 1984 Jesse Jackson trying to represent the racial needs of your own people in the Northeast under the burgeoning uniparty Neoconnery of Reaganomics and Greenspanismo and bolshification of the Dems…and having the uppity temerity to Notice certain things, or use words your masters won’t allow.

  258. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Olorin

    This is absolute nonsense.

    No it’s you who’re talking bollocks.

    Peterson, as I’ve said, is no great scholar, neither is he is a great scientific innovator, although he may be a fair clinical psychologist. But he has called out the Commies and post-modernists, and other PC brainwashing scum who fill the university humanities departments across both Canada and the US, and he has defied both provincial and Federal agencies and laws that seek to enforce PC language use.

    For that he is recognized and approved by many people outside of academia, who also find merit in his advice on how to shape a successful life (notwithstanding his awful check suits and the fact that he puts gel on his hair).

    I presume you are not in the Ed Biz, or you would know there are countless thousands of men and women in those institutions who despise what “higher ed” has become.

    Well as a matter of fact, a long time ago I was. Briefly, I held academic appointments at three universities simultaneously, including Canada’s leading research schools. However, I realized, after taking up an appointment that would have made me a colleague of Jordan Peterson’s, that the faculty I had joined was run by a bureaucratic control freak, so I quit within day, whereupon my academic career was happily at an end. Probably I should have submitted a claim to the Guinness Book of Records for recognition as the holder of the briefest tenure-track academic appointment.

    His “wide recognition” owes to agreement among media-owners, particularly the new media millers of eCelebs, to advance his proclamations. If they really cared about the issues, and actual challenge to globo-bolshie academia, they would be making it safe for ALL dissenters to speak up, speak out, and be protected in their livelihoods.

    You may or may not be right about that but, even if you are it’s not Jordan Peterson’s fault. So far as he goes, Peterson’s critique of the corruption of the North American university is valid and having come to public attention, not least through Peterson’s own maniacal-seeming self-promotion on U-Tube, it is quite rightly applauded.

    If others have a better critique to make of the academy but are denied publicity for their views, that is not Peterson’s fault. Moreover, I doubt very much if there are so many as you suggest willing to risk their careers as Peterson has done.

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  259. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Olorin

    What you also miss, is that Jordan Peterson is good copy, more so, almost certainly, than the other critics of academia you would like the media to promote. In particular, Peterson is a debater and, on his chosen ground, a very effective one at that. Put him up against one of the BBC’s feminists bullies, an Oxford-trained feminist who seems never before to have faced any disagreement with her naive ideas, or a Swedish woman who has yet to get it through her pretty head that unless Swedish women get on with the business of producing babies the Swedish nation will die, and you have a riveting spectacle.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  260. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Olorin

    But here’s a challenge for you, Olorin and Them Guys. Here’s Jordan Peterson delivering a two-hour lecture at UBC on Identity Politics and the Marxist Lie of White Privilege:

    It appeared on U-Tube 364 days ago and has had one million, six hundred and forty thousand plus views, or about five thousand a day. So if, as you claim, his wide recognition “owes to agreement among media-owners … to advance his proclamations,” let’s hear it from you who could do a better job than Peterson in deconstructing the lies of the university Marxists, Post-Modernists, and anti-white, anti-male propagandists.

    Peterson is in fact highly effective as an anti-leftist. Having been brought up as a leftie he has deep insight into how the leftist’s mind work. The same was true of British thorn-in-the-side of the scholarly corrupters of youth, Malcolm Muggeridge, who I heard address, or rather alternately rile up and then reduce to helpless mirth, a large audience at UBC in the late 60′s. Muggeridge, at that time, having been elected rector of Edinburgh University, was goaded by the editor of the student newspaper, Anna Coote, to support the call for contraceptive pills to be available at the University Health Centre. Instead, Muggeridge took the opportunity of a sermon he was to preach at St. Giles’ Cathedral in January 1968, to resign his post as rector in protest against the Student Representative Council’s views on “pot and pills”.

    Peterson, likewise challenges with wit and a certain amount of wisdom, the prevailing leftist dogma of the university campus and like Muggeridge manages to gain a hearing. I suggest that your claim that there are others who could do a better job is simply untrue.

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  261. Them Guys says:

    The real factual truth is that, a small few get allowed and promoted by major msm’s. And they all have one main in common feature….That being none ever dare debate nor discuss anything related to the Jewish Question……And if any ever did dare to defy international Jewry or Zios massive grip on mass control of speaking out, they each and every one would fast get David Duked.

    I never listened to Peterson, and only read one of his articles here at unz. But by time I read a few of his paragraphs, I knew I’d not likely bother with him again. I have basically written off every writer and speaker who refuses to dare defy Jewish and Negro PC controls of msm medias.

    No matter what else they say, or write of, nor how much of or how often said, unless they defy that Jewish and Negro stranglehold to deal with the #1 & #2 major problem groups, then nobody who follows them is going to be truly awake fully. It is akin to War, where you cannot fight any enemy, unless and until you first can Name it or them.

    We have had now 60-70 yrs of these types promoted as swell and good by every major msm source. And for same time frame these guys always have avoided to write or speak out on the most critical issue and which group is behind it most. Which is reason #1 as to why today we see a vast usa majority of folks still totally unaware and asleep at wheel. Yes those asleep folks do know tons of things and issues that are bad or wrong etc. Yet barley one per every Thousand really knows what and whom are their very real enemy’s. This is why nothing good and zero real solid fixes ever occur.

    These type msm so loves to promote, are same as evangelical apostate pastors…They all know to remain silent always on the big Taboos, is to gain vast wealth$$$ and sell many books, and live a life of luxury compared to the rest….But, they are still always coming up Short, and there is what’s called a sin of omission too…Not saying or doing when you know its right to say or do, makes one an accomplice to the real perps. Gaining vast wealth from it, don’t exonerate them either.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
    , @CanSpeccy
  262. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Them Guys

    So your position is that anyone who fails to expatiate upon the “Jewish question” has nothing useful to say about anything. It seems to me that there is something practically insane in taking such a position. But in any case, since you fail to respond to my challenge to name a potentially more effective (but presumably Jew-suppressed) critic of the post-modernist, Marxist, misandrist, anti-white racism that has gained deep roots in academia, I take that as tacit acknowledgement that there is, to your knowledge, no such person.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  263. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Them Guys

    And here, incidentally, is Malcolm Muggeridge, who is clearly greatly admired by Jordan Peterson, on Soviet Russia in the 1930′s:

    The Greatest Pogrom of Them All
    This is the Terror. The people who execute it are naturally not normal. Most of them are not Russians. I counted in the Presiduum of the G.PU. only two unquestionably Russian names. The present acting head is a Polish Jew. A good number of the underlings are also Jews, with a fair sprinkling of Letts and Poles. The flaming sword of the proletariat” has been forged in ghettoes and wherever are collected men with a grudge against their fellows and against society; and the population of Russia lives, terrified, under its shadow.

    It is a product of pogroms, and is itself the greatest pogrom of history.

    Proof surely that, according to your theory, the exclusively Jew-controlled media will soon be dropping Peterson for his identification with such a horrible anti-Semite as Muggeridge evidently was, a man so vicious as to expose the racial affiliation of Hitler’s (Sorry I mean Stalin’s) willing executioners.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  264. Them Guys says:
    @CanSpeccy

    All the famous writer and speaker guys folks here speak of often are some of the ones. McDonald, Hoffman, and a few more I cannot recall names of now. I am very good with numbers. Like a photo graphic memory, but as for peoples names?…Hate to admit it, but I am very bad at remembering many folks names…Even first names. Even many times someone I have spoken with often at say, parties etc or when I see them at a restaurant or the bank…It is embarrassing for me when it happens.

    I just recalled another name as good and well known, Andrew Joyce…David Duke is also a PHD historian, and he too would do as well or better than Peterson…Yet for some uncanny reasons, none of these guys other than Peterson get rave reviews from every msm and even from Oprah. I know the real reason and so do you.

    I agree issues you said he’s great at is a very good thing he does. But it still fails due to PC on the Taboo of the JQ.

    I do not know any other way to describe it I guess..Its kind of like you can have an army soldier guy who excels at obeying orders, remains as loyal as one can be, always has clean creased properly uniforms worn…Salutes officers better than any others do…A 100% Pure Model, and army poster boy type soldier….Yet he has never been able to hit a practice shooting target at all..never even comes close…Never can be relied on to perform a direct hit to center body mass…

    So, ok, he can be placed in the kitchen or laundry or motor pool I suppose…But thank God the rest are not bad shots like him eh….for in a real war battle and a fox hole, most guys much rather have even the worst, dumbest, illiterate hillbilly type soldier next to or in same fox hole as they are in. Because when it counts most he can hit what he aims at and never misses.

    We Are in a Nationwide War. A real War against White Males, now White Females too, and its getting worse by the week…It may not as yet be a Hot war…But is very likely to become one in Our times, maybe sooner than we expect or desire. Then all the good speak talk in the world by guys like Peterson won’t matter…And too many guys who follow after him and others like him, are not going to know things needed known to be fully wide awake.

    And those 1/2 awake ones, many maybe most will go against Us types…Because they have never shed their life long brain washings of vast beliefs of, Must Join the Group-Think and Group-Actions against them vile evil Nazi anti-Semites and racists…..Same goes for most evangelical Jewdeo-Christian, Israel/Jew firsters…We will be their enemy #1′s if it goes Hot.

    All due to the main people they always rely upon to inform and educate them, Fear the pc-JQ and avoid it at all costs…Look how many like this are in MSM, Gentiles I mean, Ann Coulter, Hannity, Et al. You’d think by Now that every one of them has made so much money, has all a person can ever wish for and more…Yet they always Toe the Jewish Line of PC and JQ-Taboo.

    Just so they wont lose a job? Or no longer get cushy book deals etc? How fuckin much money will it take to finally speak truth at a, 100% rate?…what Peterson does that you stated, sounds very swell I agree…But we have reached the point now that its high time for he and most others like him to, Buck the System, care no more if any book deals are lost, or future pays, and get down to real business…Which, like it or not, includes rejection of pc and the taboo JQ issues.

    I also think those black listed guys like Duke and the rest I named here, plus more I cannot now name, would do better than Peterson if they too got that, Free Pass like he gets. He may not even know much about these other taboo issues…A life time of avoidance of it causes that you know.

    There just might soon come a time when guys like Peterson, will regret that they know very little on those taboo issues…Then what. What if we and America as a nation do Not still have 40-50 More years for guys he alerts to pc and campus issues to gradually fix it?…There are No voting or political solutions that work left to us. So regardless how swell and good he can awaken guys to issues he’s so good at, he needs to expand it and begin to include the other vital issues.

    Guys like him have been granted or gifted with a huge opportunity most guys never get. To whom much has been given, much is required. That bible verse fits good I think.

    Just try to picture, next week say, we hear that a couple Dozen major players like Peterson, Coulter, Hannity, Rush, and similar others, stated in a press conference as a group that they refuse to any longer toe the pc and JQ Taboo line, period…And have bundled their vast cash holding etc. To begin as an entire large group to tour America, cities and rural areas alike, to explain to avg reg common folks what they know but until now so feared to speak of in public or on air tv shows.

    In 6 months or less, they would get larger crowds attending engagements, than the fuckin super bowl and sunday nite football gets now. People Crave such knowledge and truth info. And are far More likely to trust in and believe it when spoken by famous types like Ann Coulter and those others like her……Look at just, Rush radio..He had a 10 year contract, paid no matter what like sports players get, at $25-Million per year for all 10 yrs….THEN signed new 15 year contract for $40-Million per year…He has his own private Gulf steam Jet a G5 IIRC…Is That enough earned so far to just stop pc and remaining JQ Taboo compliant? One would think so. Will he do so, I doubt it.

    Me or You are lucky if we get half dozen folks to listen and learn and become wide awake to it all…Guys like Rush or Coulter can in one days time get 100,000 folks awakened. Peterson could too if what you say is correct and I don’t doubt it to be. Now if what I explained here you still do not understand, I know not what else I can say. Perhaps to you this is not so important an issue. If so, I think you are wrong to think that way. Today the most important, and critical info and issue is to awaken as many as possible to the Taboo JQ, else wise we will end up as, Bolshevik Jewish commie revolt #2 in America. If it occurs, I rather see and know a huge majority of Whites know about this issue. The International Jew, The Worlds Foremost Problem. Henry Ford Sr.’s book title in 1920. He was correct then, and it is more so now. I do not desire to live thru a Bolshevik Commie Jew revolt #2 in usa..However if we must do so, I want Us to win it this time. Ergo folks need Know what and who their mortal enemy’s are. Nothing matters more.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  265. Them Guys says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Well there ya go…so Peterson does know all about it, yet he refuses to speak out about this issue.

    Some call that shirking ones duty. As I wrote in my prior reply a moment ago, before I read this reply from you, A biblical verse seems very appropriate here on Petersons refusal to deal with it.

    To Whom Much has been given, much is required. He has been Gifted with basically a free pass from msm and various others it seems….Yet he does not make full use of it. He obviously fits the part of, to whom much has been given…However, that final part, much is required?…not so swell it seems.

  266. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Them Guys

    David Duke is also a PHD historian, and he too would do as well or better than Peterson…Yet for some uncanny reasons, none of these guys other than Peterson get rave reviews from every msm and even from Oprah.

    LOL. You gotta be kidding. David Duke, beside being a former grand wizard of the KKK, has a most irritating whinging tone that makes whatever he says, however reasonable, sound, well, like and extremely irritating whinge.

    McDonald is a genuine scholar and has made interesting observations about Jews, but he’s no TV personality. As for the other folks that you cannot remember or that I’ve never heard of, I assume they are are even more hopeless as candidates for stardom on commercial TV.

    No, I’m sorry, but you haven’t a clue. If you wanted to look for a hidden hand behind the popularity of Jordan Peterson you are looking in the wrong place. Peterson, like Muggeridge before him, is apparently a globalist and his deconstruction of the PC/antifa/feminist assault on capitalism, white people and men serves in the battle between the Council-on-Foreign-Relations globalists and the Communists, who are globalists too.

    Here’s an article that popped up on the Web the other day that gives you at least an idea of where the CFR came from and what inspired it.

    Specifically, what inspired the CFR globalist conspiracy was the 19th Century art historian and Oxford University don, John Ruskin, who believed it should be the mission of the fortunate few educated at such schools as Oxford to spread the glory of Western civilization to the entire globe and to every class and color of mankind.

    Cecil Rhodes, backed by Rothschild and other Jewish bankers, made a fortune in the South African gold and diamond mines. Inspired as a student, by John Ruskin, Rhodes left his great fortune to a trust that funds the Rhodes Scholarships that takes bright young colonials — Bill Clinton for example, and washes their brains at Oxford University.

    Rhodes also created a secret society to promote his vision of a British-led global empire. After Britain had been ruined by WW1, the main burden of responsibility for this project was transferred by the British group to the US where JP Morgan and others founded the Council on Foreign Relations (to which outfit Hilary Clinton and the great majority of other actual or wannabee presidents have been members).

    Today’s big issue is the globalist:nationalist struggle. Trump, presumably backed by a military faction (the military having long been imbued with the idea of loyalty to the nation), represents the latter, Hillary the former. Jews are to be found on both sides, a fact that entirely demolishes your position.

    Peterson, incidentally, although no great scientist, is good at pop psychology, which almost everyone is interested in. The fact that he’s kind of a nut himself, makes the spectacle he offers even more appealing.

    So no, Peterson is really no one’s puppet. He just happens to be the right man in the right time, who through outrageous ambition has prepared himself well for the task on which he has embarked.

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  267. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @CanSpeccy

    And it seems that J.P. Morgan is still doing the work of the Council on Foreign Relations, aka, Rhodes Secret Society for Global Governance:

    Mystery as FBI Finds JP Morgan Executive Running al-Qaeda’s Websites & Money Laundering But Let Him Walk Away Free

  268. Olorin says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Balderdash. He risked nothing. Ha had billionaires with new media connections in his corner fron day one. The “risk” was as engineered as Broadway stage settings.

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  269. Olorin says:
    @CanSpeccy

    I am not interested in the activities of or hagiographic meditations on the professional grift castes of academia or media. Did my time in both. It’s all a con game.

  270. Olorin says:
    @CanSpeccy

    Good lord, go back to your JP fan club forum. Your sebaceous enthusiasms I find cringeworthy in the extreme.

  271. CanSpeccy says:
    @Olorin

    Balderdash. He risked nothing.

    Well since we’re now at the stage of bald assertions, there’s no point in detailing the facts, so I won’t.
    As for

    Ha had billionaires with new media connections in his corner fron day one. The “risk” was as engineered as Broadway stage settings.

    A further bald statement unsubstantiated by any evidence. I guess it’s an easy way to win arguments. At least in your own mind.

  272. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Good lord, go back to your JP fan club forum.

    You think over 4000 views of a two-hour you-tube video every day for the past 365 days is the work of a fan club!

    It does seem that Unz attracts a rather poor type of anti-Semite: a crackpot who sees a Jewish billionaire behind everything they don’t like about the world.

    The thing is, of course, that such idiot anti-Semitism is just what the ADL and other Jews of a racist kind like, since it can be pointed to as proof of how vicious and dangerous to Jews the goyim really are and justifies the endless moaning about anti-Semitism.

  273. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Although I am not a Jordan Peterson fan, if only because I know very little about him, here’s a clip that will surely please any fans that Peterson may have here:

    Jordan Peterson To Canadian Woman: EVERYTHING Wrong With Justin Trudeau

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