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The unified foreign policy establishment in Washington, the Deep State politicos—from Lindsey Graham and Lynne Cheney in Congress, to the inveterate Never Trumpers like Peggy Noonan in The Wall Street Journal, [“he’s (Trump) all impulse, blithely operating out of his depth”], to the near totality of the progressivist Left (e.g. Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, and others), have come together (as they always do) to protect their sacred commitment to globalism and, this time, in opposition to President Trump’s decision to finally withdraw American support troops from northeastern Syria.

If it is one thing that brings the “Swamp” together in solidarity it is a serious threat to their hegemony in administering America’s foreign policy. From the pseudo-conservative “right” to the loony Left, the one issue that unites these agents of the Managerial Administrative State is the absolute imperative for the United States “to be involved” practically everywhere in the world, the zealous pursuit of “democratization” and the imposition of “egalitarian” values—most significantly in our export of “educational” programs and the various strings attached to our voluminous aid packages. Such programs always follow in the wake of any boots on the ground. They are part and parcel of the Deep State’s attempt to re-fashion the world along the lines and with globalist postulates that are, in fact, inimical to the traditions and heritage of the American founding.

Such initiatives mirror in numerous ways the goals of international financiers and subversive globalist instigators such as George Soros, whose multiple “Europe without Borders” (“Europe sans frontiers”) initiatives involve the virtual destruction of that historic continent by dissolving national borders and via an open door policy towards immigration, most especially from “Third World” countries. Soros and his apparatchiks have run into fierce opposition from Hungary and its valiant Prime Minister Viktor Orban, and, to some degree, from Poland and now from Italy, under its more rightist populist government. Yet, for Soros such opposition is a mere hindrance. He and those internationalists like him continue feverishly their scheming towards a global “nation” founded on ruins of an older, Christian civilization.

Just as with the massive “re-education” of Europe following German defeat in 1945, the results are not always what we are informed they will be. In the case of post-war Germany, it was not only the tearing out, root-and-branch, of any supposed trace of Naziism and antisemitism, but the real and practical disauthorization of ANY actual, traditional conservative presence (including traditional, non-Nazi conservatives), to the point that German history was so completely re-written and sanitized as to make any defense of even pre-1918 Germany—of Prussian history—any defense of a “national German spirit,” the equivalent of “the recrudescence of antisemitism and Hitlerism.” Germans were taught and continue to be taught to despise and reject their past, not just the twelve year interregnum under Adolf Hitler, but in fact its near entirety. The German nation has become, in a real sense, one immense bog of continuous apologies and imposed, never ending penance.

The ignominious demise of Soviet Communism, a threat to us and our existence prior to 1991, in no way lessened the beating war drums and the dreams of international “democratization” or the desire for imposing “egalitarian values” emitted from the American foreign policy establishment. Nor its implicit, if not always seamless, tacit collaboration with the aims of uber-globalists like Soros. The specter of the George W. Bush years, of a John McCain and Lindsey Graham, and of Neocon “thought leaders” like Bill Kristol and James Kirchick demanding that the full panoply of “gay and lesbian rights” be implemented in Russia, that “democratic values” be imposed in Iraq, and that America intervene in Syria, are stark reminders that those policies continue full blast in the Swamp.

And thus when Donald Trump uttered the unutterable and ordered the withdrawal of American troops, he enraged not just the fanatics over on the progressivist Left, but the unelected managerial bureaucrats and Republican and “conservative” denizens of that same Swamp (who hold themselves condescendingly above all those rubes and deplorables out in the American hinterland). How dare the Trumpster question the “national consensus”! How dare he challenge the irrepressible advance towards world democracy and equality for everyone, everywhere! How dare he be so petty and insular as to reject “progress”!

Thus the howls of disapproval and anger directed at the president for his announcement last week that he is doing exactly what he declared he would do, both during his presidential campaign and back in December: withdraw American “advisers” from the Turkish border in extreme northeastern Syria.

Unlike the jeremiads one hears from nearly all the media, including Fox News and pundits like Chris Wallace and Brian Kilmeade, this decision was not unexpected, but had been in the planning stage and in the offing since this past December (when General Mattis resigned because he disagreed). The president just finally decided to follow through on his promise.

Perhaps the most pointed—and poignant—argument used by those who oppose the president is that we are leaving “our Kurdish allies in the lurch, we are deserting them,” placing them at the mercy of the Turks just across the border who have already begun to attack them. Those who make this argument appear to forget that the Marxist Kurdish resistance in that region has been and continues to be, in many respects, an anti-Turkish terror group hoping to carve out of Turkey a large area to be part of an independent Kurdish nation. Over the years they have engaged in various barbaric acts of terrorism and mayhem directed not only against the Turkish military but also against civilians. Our alliance with them, such as it was, was one of convenience: that we would offer them some temporary aerial cover, a kind of shield against their hereditary enemies, and in return they would assist us in that small area of northeastern Syria that continued to be subject of ISIS attacks.

This they did.

But too often we Americans suffer from both strategic and historical myopia. We did not win the war against ISIS, and neither did the Kurds. The vast majority of the fighting was done by the Syrian Army of Bashar al-Assad, backed strongly by Russian assistance—and with the near unanimous support of Syria’s beleaguered Christian population. Some 80% of the country was liberated by the Syrians themselves.

Now the Kurds in that part of Syria may have to look to President Assad for an alliance and protection, and that would not be a bad thing at all. Assad is, after all, the legitimate president of Syria. Despite the best efforts and machinations of the American State Department (abetted by the late Senator John McCain) to undermine his struggle against Islamic extremists, Assad has been largely successful in defending his nation’s geographical integrity and its independence. Just as in Iraq, American intervention—in the name of “human rights” and “spreading democracy”—was wrongheaded from the beginning and woefully counter-productive. Would there have even been such involvement in Syria had it not been for “protecting Israel’s flank”?

Certainly, there are some outstanding issues that need resolution: no one wishes to see additional civilians—Kurdish women and children—caught up in more cross fire. And there are approximately 10,000 ISIS prisoners being held in the area (which European countries don’t wish to take, and who we don’t want either). Hopefully, discussions between Donald Trump and President Erdogan of Turkey will result in some kind of solution for these questions.

Yet, over it all there is the overarching and searing reminder that for thousands of years the Middle East has presented an almost unsolvable conundrum, a morass where armies perish in the sands, where whole nations seem to disappear into the recesses of history. Just reflect, if you will, on efforts over the past fifty years to engineer (that is the correct word) peace between the Israelis and their Arab neighbors…of the immense hostility existing between the Sunni and Shi’a and Wahabi Muslims…of the enmity between the Saudis and Gulf States, and Syria and Iran. These conflicts are not isolated, nor new: they reflect millennia of violence, carnage, and hate. And there are few signs that that will change, with or without Americans in the region.

And, given our very dubious record (at best) in the Middle East, our efforts at “democratization” and “peace-keeping” should have taught us a lesson or two. Unfortunately, the foreign policy Swamp and the globalists continue to believe that they can reconstruct human nature, with enough American advisers, enough American aid, enough secularized education and population re-programming and re-educating…and maybe a few body bags thrown in for good measure.

In so doing, they actually bring on the eventual demise of the America Empire.

 
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  1. Mulegino1 says:

    Excellent article.

    The neocons and their kosher subordinates who root for endless war need to be slapped in the face by reality- hard. Unfortunately, they for the most part bear no personal burden for their bloodlust and greed, although they consider the deflation of US “Hubris” a personal humiliation.

    The days of cod pieces and flight suits and “Mission Accomplished” banners on carrier flight decks are gone for good. The world’s sole hyper-power has been beaten- not once, not twice but at least three times- in Crimea/ Eastern Ukraine, in Venezuela and in Syria, and is about to admit defeat in a fourth conflict, i.e., Afghanistan. There are no more regime change cakewalks to be had. We do not “define our own reality.” Our alleged invincible military might has reached its limits and has, in many cases, been reduced to pitiful posturing and empty threats.

    Trump is right on Syria. Would that he were right with respect to the entire Middle East and Central and East Asia.

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @Mikhail
  2. …they for the most part bear no personal burden for their bloodlust and greed…

    …in this life.

    But as God Incarnate inferred with His condemnation of them quoted at John 8:44 those liars and murderers are on track for eternity with their spiritual Daddy who was a murder from the beginning and is the father of lies.

    Jews have always had unparalleled hostility for those outside their ethnicity, non-Jews whether they call them “gentiles”, “goyim”or whatever.

    But modern Jew treachery truly is all connected to their rejection of Jesus’ Divinity and thus their mindless supreme hatred for the ethnic group which has traditionally submitted themselves to Him, the Euro descended.

    • Replies: @Artorigios
    , @anonymous
    , @Anon
  3. RMG says:

    One important point omitted in this excellent article has to do with the NATO status of the United States and Turkey. The United States is militarily the most powerful country (by far) in NATO. Turkey is the second most powerful country in NATO. Erdogan made up his mind to destroy the military capability of the Kurds in Syria, and U.S. diplomacy could not dissuade him. So, if the Pentagon did take on the near-impossible task of bolstering its minuscule ground forces in Syria in order to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the Kurds in their defense, that would result in NATO’s most powerful country entering into open warfare with NATO’s second most powerful country. And it is clear that the timid chorus of the remaining NATO member states would not be able to interfere.

    What would such a crisis do to NATO? Under Trump, the US membership in NATO is not strong. It is hard to imagine how NATO could withstand such a crisis. Even if the remaining NATO countries sided with the United States, how would the crisis be resolved? Expel Turkey? NATO does not have a mechanism for expelling one of its members.

    In view of the above issues, Trump was wise not to to send a large force of American troops to aid the Kurds in Syria, and the U.S. military force which is in Syria at present – a total of under 6,000 – could not do much to help the Kurds against the Turkish army.

  4. Consider Islam, a religion definitely founded by a known historical figure, with books and teachings authentically from the prophet, yet somehow split into two main factions. How can such a thing happen? Split over doctrne? Sunni and Shia? No-one really cares about those sorts of fine points. Doctrinal divisions in religions are always cover for something else. No, the real split is between Arabia and Iran, aka Persia. Between Arab and Persian.

    And once you understand that, you understand it all. The split in Islam is a race war. And with a moment’s thought, you’ll realise that every conflict in the region is a race war: Kurd against Turk, Jew against Everyone Else.

    It’s got not really about religion, or history, or resources, or territory, its not even primarily about money – startling as that may be. It’s a race war. Sure, they all look the same to you and me, but they can tell the difference. The entire history of the middle east, ten millennia of bloodshed, is a race war. They have been killing one another for an aeon. They are going to keep right on doing it because, sadly, they breed somewhat faster than they can murder.

    There will never, never, never be peace in the middle east. Never. Every other nation in the world is well out of it. Fence ’em in and leave ’em to it.

  5. HEREDOT says:

    One of the best articles I’ve read recently

  6. Duane W says: • Website

    I was waiting for an article like this … I KNEW it would come. Praise God❗️And may President Trump continue and grow in clarity and wisdom… for our benefit/peace and the world’s❗️💐

  7. Too late to fence them in Dave, they are even being imported in large numbers to Australia and already we can see the chaos and instability fomenting as a result.

  8. @Dave from Oz

    I’m sorry but I don’t buy the “race war” hypothesis as the basis for ME problems going back thousands of years.
    Race is always an issue, but it’s far from the most important.
    The fact that much of the ME has known peace when a centralized power has gained control is evidence that ME peoples’ can live together relatively peacefully (Persians, Pathians, Ottomans etc)

    “Split over doctrne? Sunni and Shia? No-one really cares about those sorts of fine points. Doctrinal divisions in religions are always cover for something else. No, the real split is between Arabia and Iran, aka Persia.”
    There’s some truth here — but ideas can be powerful. Remember there is no exact doctrine/race equation. Indeed, Christianity — Catholicism v protestantism where largely between people of close if not identical races.
    Economics & power where probably the most important non-doctrinal issues.
    Trump has likely not handled this Kurd business in a PR approved way. However, he’s pushed things (hopefully) in the right direction. That is, Nth Syria reintegrated into Syria, & Turkey relieved of the problem of Kurdish militants constantly using Nth Syria as a base to stab into Turkey’s underbelly.
    Face it — that kind of nonsense would never be tolerated for long.
    The Turk’s take the Kurds (PKK etc) very-very-very seriously.
    Hopefully, it’s now time for diplomacy.

  9. We have no business in the ME fighting wars for israel.

    Let israel fight its’ own wars.

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
  10. @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    “Ye are of your father, the devil”

    That’s their physical father. A murderer from the beginning. Cain and his offspring not in the genealogy of Adam and Seth. Why do they always cause such problems throughout time? Over and over and over…It’s in their dna, from their father, Satan.

  11. When the author repeats this kind of sentence — the “withdrawal of US troops” he actually means the “shifting of US troops”. US troops are NOT being withdrawn from Syria, they’re being moved.
    Given their presence there is illegal, & that such a presence seems to be basically a sop to certain external tribal interests & a kind of “dog in the manger” approach to the interests of the legitimate Syrian state & it’s allies, US Syrian policy seems as wonky as ever.
    Although, to be fair, Pence’s “ceasefire” agreement with Turkey has at least, improved the optics for Trump.

  12. Antares says:

    Just reflect, if you will, on efforts over the past fifty years to engineer (that is the correct word) peace between the Israelis and their Arab neighbors…of the immense hostility existing between the Sunni and Shi’a and Wahabi Muslims…of the enmity between the Saudis and Gulf States, and Syria and Iran. These conflicts are not isolated, nor new: they reflect millennia of violence, carnage, and hate. And there are few signs that that will change, with or without Americans in the region.

    From the beginning of the 20th century British efforts were aimed at finding a weak point in Arab cultures. A fissure was needed to divide Arabs and set them up against each other. The only thing they could find was an old, unsolved difference between sunnism and shi’ism. Of course those Brits were somehow inspired. As if that wasn’t enough, Zionists started to move into Palestine and took over the area. Also the US chose side for Saudi Arabia and overthrew Iran. The rift was deliberatily created.

    Representing wars and hostilities in the Middle East as the natural result of two oppositional religious currents makes as much sense as explaining the two world wars as a split between catholics and protestants.

    The fact that Trump was forced to take this decision can be easily mistaken for a signal of better American policies in the Middle East, and maybe also at home. It is eventhough wiser not to be falsely encouraged.

    The most interesting point will be if Erdogan is, in the near future, prepared to return the area to Syria. He has a lot to atone for and it is the only way in which these countries can reconcile. It would immensely strengthen the eastern alliance and make the west look like eternal fools.

    • Replies: @anon
  13. Biff says:

    Germans were taught and continue to be taught to despise and reject their past, not just the twelve year interregnum under Adolf Hitler, but in fact its near entirety. The German nation has become, in a real sense, one immense bog of continuous apologies and imposed, never ending penance.

    This has always bothered me, and strikes me as criminal to try and wipe out a peoples entire history, and making nationalism a crime in the Fatherland. Germany has a rich history that should be celebrated.

    Even if the fairy tales of holocaust were true – Germany would still have a long way to go to match Washington’s human rights abuses – yet Washington still continues to celebrate it’s history as virtuous, and correct. This kind of dichotomy doesn’t happen without a whole lot of deceit.

    • Agree: Moi, Marty
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    , @Marty
  14. TKK says:

    Kurds- the only Muslims with moderate views, general bad asses and able to shut down ISIS, Wahhabi and Shia butchery and general social retardation.

    Kurds- the only Muslims our Special Forces revere and want to fight wth and protect.

    Kurds- you can buy an apartment in Erbil (Irbil), Kurdistan, Northern Iraq and actually have utilities, cable and fresh food w/o being blown up by Sunni troglodytes due to Kurdish vigilance and restraint.

    But by all means- because Israel has offered a few throw away support statements- lets abandon them to Erdogan’s mad quest to rule a medieval Caliphate and slaughter them.

    Some causes are worth fighting for- it only took 50- fifty- SF and MARSOC’s – 50 men-to keep Erdogan from his plan of genocide. THEY WANT TO BE THERE.

    And they are all clamoring to go back and help the Kurds and the SDF. The boots on the ground know the truth- but who cares what they think? The men with their balls on the chopping block.

    No, a NY real estate huckster knows best. He’s wrong.

    This has Jared and Ivanka written all over it. It’s disgusting, immoral-

    and could start WW 3.

    Only the REAL 3 D chess player Putin sees this… and understands. And acts.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @WJ
  15. Why cant those 10,000 ISIS prisoners be put to work in mining.. Syria has large resources of many ores that needs hard labor to extract.. Ofcourse the Syrian government could use some extra hands.. that dont need to be paid or looked after.. Anyone who dont want to work can be put out of their misery like the SS did to their pow’s.. It solves all problems easily..

    I just read that Iraq has agreed to accept 10,000 ISIS and family.. Of the 50,000 or so.. Which still leaves a large number of workers eager to start digging and pulling carts.. Also there is no electricity or roads etc easily accessible in these areas.. Also if they run off, no one needs to bother.. there is nothing to eat or drink for 100’s of km’s either..

    • Replies: @anonymous
  16. anon[455] • Disclaimer says:
    @RMG

    If Turkey got into trouble in Syria [Poison Gas attacks, Biological Weapons], wouldn’t they be entitled under NATO rules to request U.S. help?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  17. Smith says:

    The winning move for the US is just to disengage and move out.

    With the US out of the picture, the carrion-eaters (kurds, turks) will feast on each other.

    This is why I pray for Vietnam’s militarization and power to sustain, China will go batshit insane once the US moves out, and the sooner that happens the better. China loses everything they build up for.

    Good luck to Vietnam, we are gonna need it in the upcoming decades.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  18. gotmituns says:

    President Trump Is Right on Syria
    —————————————-
    Bring all troops home from all foreign countries. Enough of playing policeman to the world.

  19. @RMG

    In view of the above issues, Trump was wise not to to send a large force of American troops to aid the Kurds in Syria, and the U.S. military force which is in Syria at present – a total of under 6,000 – could not do much to help the Kurds against the Turkish army.

    Erdogan should have invoked Article 5 and insisted the US aid Turkey in fighting off the attack on it by the Kurds.

    BTW, If the US aided the Kurds, you’d have the perverse example of one NATO ally attacking another. Turkey seems to be an old hand at this, to wit Greece.

  20. @Biff

    Germany has a rich history that should be celebrated.

    I once remarked to a German that Germany of the Bell Époque was perhaps the peak of Western Civilisation, and she sputtered that that could not possibly be (She literally said, “Gar nicht wahr! Das kann nicht sein!”, a double refutation).

  21. The Nose hasn’t done anything to stop the phony impeachment, so Big Orange might be on the right track.

  22. El Dato says:

    This is all just swamp bullshit and the “incident on the Syrian border” will be forgotten once the next soon-to-holocausted jewish-by-proxy people onto which a global spotlight needs to directed comes along. The goal being electoral steam generation to animate the twitter lumpenproletariat.

    (Please tell me that image is shopped or this is a rent-a-crowd of money-strapped protesto-whores.)

    • Replies: @anon
  23. I think that all credit goes to Vladimir Putin who made a brilliant move by 1) engaging Turkey – NATO member – to “invade” Syria and thus get rid of the few hundred Americans illegally present in the country and 2) urged Bashar ual Assad to extend some autonomy to the Kurds, who have now joined the Syrian Army to defeat the remaining caliphate terrorists. The Turks are only temporarily in Syria and will eventually withdraw from that country. So will Russia at the right time apart from maintaining their Syrian naval base on the Mediterranean Sea. It could well be that Trump was also part of Putins the plot.

  24. El Dato says:
    @TKK

    You are Nancy Pelosi and I claim my 5 dollars.

    Kurds- you can buy an apartment in Erbil (Irbil), Kurdistan, Northern Iraq and actually have utilities, cable and fresh food w/o being blown up by Sunni troglodytes due to Kurdish vigilance and restraint.

    Should have reflected on that before “War on Saddam, part 2” started.

    Also, you could do that in Syria too, before the “Assad Must Go” train started rolling.

    This has Jared and Ivanka written all over it.

    Really? How?

    It’s disgusting, immoral

    Welcome to the Real.

    -and could start WW 3.

    LOL

    • Replies: @TKK
  25. DanFromCT says:

    According to the Watson Institute, a million or so people have died in these ME wars for Israel since 9/11, about half in Syria. There is also the military’s use of depleted uranium on projectiles and 30-mm ammo that nearly vaporizes on impact and was probably responsible for the fiendish deformities of so many newborns in Iraq.

    As Wendell Berry put it right after 9/11, don’t kill one Muslim child and dare tell me you did it to protect my children. Supporting these wars, whose evil is of biblical proportions, is evil on the face of it. The biblical irony is that it’s all been to implement the Yinon Plan extending Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates and its colonizing of the Stans and Ukraine to bring about Israel’s replacement of the US as the world’s superpower.

    What’s so difficult to accept is that it’s no longer a matter of the US government committing abominations that follow from bad policy decisions, but that the federal government itself is an abomination for the reason that it incinerates children on behalf of the criminal state of Israel while at home it promotes its own children being chemically and surgically turned into sexual chimeras. And of course the government is people and not an abstraction, so it’s doubly hard to understand the diabolical evil of these men and women who justify mass incinerations and fiendish deformations of newborns as realpolitik.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @anon
  26. Moi says:
    @Dave from Oz

    Even though the Qu’ran says that do not commit divisions among yourself, Muslims started killing each other shortly after the death of Prophet Muhammed. They even killed the third caliph, Othman while he was reading the Qu’ran.

    Killing each other seems to be the favorite sport of Muslims.

    • Replies: @renfro
  27. @animalogic

    Disagree. Everything is downstream from race. Harsh dictatorships can install peace among different races through force, but they are always temporary. Look at the West – the more diverse it gets, the more laws that are implemented to keep it in line.

  28. Realist says:

    In so doing, they actually bring on the eventual demise of the America Empire.

    Therefore it won’t happen.

  29. Another Brilliant article. They are coming in rows now.

    The hypocrisy about the Kurds.
    When US gave Sadam Hussein chemical weapons to gas the Kurds there was no outcry no demonstrations. And Sadam was killing Kurds in thousands.
    American people are so sheeple that can be so easily manipulated.
    All demonstrations are organized by Globalists.
    All Americans can be fooled all the time.
    Some American politician did consider it impossible, but now we have a proof not only that is possible but it is easy.

    • Replies: @Sparkon
  30. Fine article. The media would have us believe that withdrawing heavily armed teenagers from a country to which they were illegally stationed will somehow make a bad situation worse. Well of course The Orange-Haired Satan is about as antiwar as Hillary Clinton, so when he takes an action to lessen violence, why, it doesn’t count because he is not pure of heart. Or because he’s Hitler, or Putin’s boyfriend, or whatever the smear du jour happens to be.

    I seem to recall that Madame Romney-in-a-Pantsuit proposed a no-fly-zone over Syria, which would have been a direct military challenge to the Russian Federation – whose forces are there at the invitation of the legal, elected government and in defense of Russia’s vital national interests. Oh wait a minute, I forgot, Assad is also Hitler because he refuses to surrender his country’s sovereignty and natural resources to Wall Street or Israel. Yep, he and Putin surely breakfast together on roasted kittens and puppies every morning while they plot fiendishly to steal our freedom!

    The least we can do is sponsor invaders to kill a half million Syrians and displace half the nation’s population to save Syria from itself. Look how well it’s gone so far.

    • Replies: @TKK
  31. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:

    And, given our very dubious record (at best) in the Middle East, our efforts at “democratization” and “peace-keeping” should have taught us a lesson or two.

    Dubious record, at best?!!! That’s it? Lol!

    The subtle art of deflection, and obfuscation, of the dark-souled pagan godless imperialist psychopathic whitrash.

    Hell gleefully awaits your kind.

  32. @Dave from Oz

    ‘…There will never, never, never be peace in the middle east. Never. Every other nation in the world is well out of it. Fence ’em in and leave ’em to it.’

    Historically,I think this eternal war in the Middle East you perceive could as readily be seen in Europe, among North American Indians, or anywhere else for that matter..

    As for right now, while the region wouldn’t be all brightness and light otherwise, Israel obviously makes things a good deal worse. For example, the Syrian civil war would have ended long ago absent Israel’s machinations, we never would have intervened at her behest, the Kurds never would have been encouraged to seek a greater Kurdistan, and none of this would be going on. One can also point to the Iraq war, the Lebanese Civil War, and the coup in Egypt as past examples of Israel’s malign influence. This omits the wars Israel simply started herself.

    If we did indeed stay out, things would indeed improve. For one, yanked off our tit, Israel would fairly promptly expire, and that would vastly improve matters.

    • Agree: mark green
  33. America was pushed into the illegal unconstitutional wars in the mideast by the attack on the WTC on 911 by Israel and the neocon traitors in the ZUS government that was blamed on the Arabs and thus these killers got Americans into bombing and invading Afghanistan and then Iraq and then Libya and then Syria and then Yemen, and all of this war and loss of life and money was based on a zionist created lie and is still going on after years and all for Israel!

    The American armed forces are used as a mercenary force for Israel , to fight and die and be wounded, and Trillions spent all for Israel and the zionists, any question on who controls America!

  34. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    Jesus’ Divinity

    Lol! It is amazing, hilarious, and quite pathetic actually, how a people who fancy themselves as “high IQ” would blindly believe in such pagan mangod nonsense (just like someone would say, Shiva’s divinity), just because they read it in a book.

    Sure, there are various other peoples who put much faith in words found in a book, but there is such a thing called logicality. If one possesses “high IQ,” you would expect that person to use it, otherwise what is its purpose?

    I have to say this because I too believe in a Book. But, as you can note below, at least it is firmly rooted in basic logic… for theists anyway.

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.”

  35. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Good article .

    In relation with the photo I am more and more tired with people who , like those in the photo , wave some banner , some poster , with simplistic imperative unelaborated messages just aiming to manipulate others and to defend some interests , not to help someone or to tell the truth .

    The poster wavers dictators , with their simplistic imperative manipulative demands are a danger for the truth .

  36. onebornfree says: • Website

    I’m not a Trump supporter [beyond the sheer “grab your popcorn”entertainment value], but this at least seems to be sincere on his part:

    “President Trump: “The Hardest Thing I Have to Do””:

    Regards, onebornfree

  37. TKK says:
    @El Dato

    I detest Pelosi. She is a repellent two faced hag that need the Robespierre solution.

    You are a rube that cannot view any issue but through the American moron filters: Republican or Democrat

    They are the same party. It’s all a fraud.

    You are the guy or gal or hermaphradite that runs out the back door when the sh*t goes d own. A coward. That’s what Trump is making the USA.

    You don’t betray and abandon your allies.

    • Replies: @WJ
    , @Poco
  38. TKK says:
    @Observator

    withdrawing heavily armed teenagers

    The level of arrogant ignorance here is horrific.

    It’s Special Ops and MARSOC.

    Actual American bad asses in their late 30 and 40s.

    The opposite of texting, quivering outrage addicted snowflakes who can’t change a tire or do a pull up.

    YES- those few American boots kept Erdogan in line. Unlike the media wants you to believe (and Unz) the world still fears the USA.

    But not if we tuck tail and run.

    The SO et al are stating they will forfeit their combat pay lifts if they could go back to help the Kurds.

    We spend billions on bases in Germany for fat civilians to make 120K to send a few emails a week, have affairs and complain European bathrooms are too small. The waste is staggering.

    But a few million to stop a slaughter by a megalomanic is an outrage?

    • Replies: @WJ
  39. America has arm chair generals who work for the Military Industrial Complex and get high paying jobs with the MIC when they retire. The MIC has every member of congress in their pockets. War keeps corporate America afloat – there isn’t any much of a disagreement about anything about how except much funding goes into keeping groups fighting each other to serve their interests.

    Disagreements mostly exist in the media where people like Cathey, one of the less provocative idiots on Unz, refers to “left” and “right” as merely signifying the dialectic, by which the owners divide and conquer the public.

  40. Sparkon says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    All Americans can be fooled all the time.

    Some can be fooled, perhaps many, but not “all.”

    You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

    — Anon

    And no, there is no record that Abraham Lincoln ever uttered these words, but the truth of the statement remains, even if a famous person didn’t say it.

    You can’t fool all the people all the time.

    For example, some Americans knew already on Sept. 11, 2001 that an airplane and its fuel couldn’t destroy a massive skyscraper, and that some other agent or agents had to have been used to demolish the Twin Towers.

    I was in the Air Force, and I knew that Air Force would never let a potentially hijacked airliner wander around the East Coast of the USA for an hour without interception.

    I knew also that the headquarters of the world’s most powerful military force would be able to defend itself against any airplane, hijacked or not, and would not just sit there and let a kamikaze jetliner crash into their HQ.

    That’s why Vice-president Cheney told Norman Mineta’s “young man” that the orders still stood, as the airplane was bearing down on the Pentagon, because Cheney didn’t want to shoot down his own airplane, which buzzed the Pentagon, and flew on just as a bomb was set off near April Gallop’s office.

    The orders must have been “Hold your fire,” because no airplane was shot down at the Pentagon on 9/11, and that’s why the “young man” reporting to VP Cheney was so anxious to have the order verified, since he wasn’t in on the plot.

    • Replies: @Agent76
  41. Agent76 says:

    Oct 15, 2019 Faked Syrian War Video + Trump Murder Meme!

    A tale of two videos – and one CENTRAL hypocrisy.

    Jun 1, 2019 Childhood at wartime, in Syria

    Syrian father tells of his children’s very different childhood. From Damascus.

  42. WJ says:
    @TKK

    This is the opposite of Jvanka. Ivanka will cry when she see dead babies and hopes DJT will go to war against a NATO ally.

    Kurds are con men. Not worth one US tax dollar or life. But you could probably join up to fight for them if you think that much of them.

    Also, I have ZFG about what American military men want to do. It’s called civilian control and the military is not there for their white knight fantasies of saving the world.

  43. WJ says:
    @TKK

    We should leave Germany also.

    I dont care what white knighting Special Forces “bad asses” want to do. They work for the President and can keep their opinions to themselves as long as they are in uniform.

    What would happen if Mexicans in the Southwest rise up for their own country ? Would we allow them to take US territory for this? I dont think so. Not yet anyway.

  44. WJ says:
    @TKK

    He’s a coward but you are true internet keyboard hero. Congratulations.

    You probably still think Eyerak 2 was a good idea also.

  45. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave from Oz

    Lol! You fancy yourself quite smart, eh? You shouldn’t.

    How many have the whitrash slaughtered, amongst themselves and others?

    Just the world wars 1 & 2 are reported to have killed like a 60~70mil (even before that, there was the American civil war). Add to that the millions killed by the whitrash imperialists all around the world after that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll

    You lowlifes live and breathe psychopathy. So you should desist from talking about others’ bloodlust, when there is no race more psychopathic than your own.

    In the end, the truth of muslims killing each other lies in the fact that we are stupid enough to succumb to the evil machinations of the cursed enemies of true monotheism. Most of the ills we see in the ME have been instigated by those lowlifes.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  46. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Igor Bundy

    I would like to raise a hypothetical scenario in which I would like to assume there is a method of identifying the lives those “ISIS” prisoners took.

    If they took innocent lives of the locals, they should be guillotined immediately. But, if they fought and sent whitrash imperialists to the Hell which awaits them (more the merrier), those who had no business bringing evil unjust wars to Islamic lands, then they should be lauded as heroes, and odes must be composed on them. If I had grand-babies, I would name them after such heroes and martyrs.

    I wish a memory visualisation equipment was truly available now.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2016/06/29/this-new-device-can-visualize-your-thoughts-sort-of/

  47. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    They could, but what would be the purpose. The whitrash imperialists would simply find some ridiculous excuse to renege on the treaty. Can those feckless pale [email protected]# be trusted? Lol! No!

    I certainly hope Erdogan is not that gullible.

  48. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @Smith

    the carrion-eaters

    I don’t know about those communist Kurds, but I certainly know most Turks consume Halal meat only, which strictly forbids the consumption of animals which are already dead. So, no carrion for them.

    I trust your kind has no problem consuming meat of animals which were already dead? Heck, your kind has no problem consuming anything, even the most filthy swine. In home conversations, I refer to it as, swine hogging swine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_dietary_laws

    Because, Peter’s vision… Lol!

    Anyway, given the whitrash’s lust for blood, I posit that your kind are actually, Necrophiliacs. It may not be true literally (well, perhaps), but your kind certainly seems to take an almost orgasmic pleasure in the slaughter of others. Enough proof of that.

    So, Necrophiliac-ism, in a figurative manner, seems to fit your kind. Think about it.

  49. Muslim killing muslims?
    Perfect!

  50. anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:
    @DanFromCT

    the government is people

    And, a reflection of The People, more so in a “democracy.”

  51. Agent76 says:
    @Sparkon

    You should like to have and save these two links.

    Oct 25, 2008 More proof a plane did not hit PENTAGON

    More proof with tons of evidence disproving the official story,this is just a little more.2 star major general who is was an analyst for the government says no way on top of top military and commercial pilots.

    Do you see any plane?

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  52. @Agent76

    April Gallop was working at the pentagram on 911 in the area of the explosion and she walked out through the hole in the wall and never saw any plane or missile parts, it was a prewired explosion, her videos of this event can be seen on youtube.

    • Replies: @Agent76
    , @Agent76
  53. @anonymous

    And your kind is ??? I’ll take a stab it at.. Dune Coon.

  54. @animalogic

    “The fact that much of the ME has known peace when a centralized power has gained control is evidence that ME peoples’ can live together relatively peacefully.”
    __________

    “When a centralized power has gained control” would more more accurately be expressed as ‘when sufficiently oppressed by a brutal tyrant’. Leave these people to their fate, they are not our responsibility.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  55. Agent76 says:
    @DESERT FOX

    This is what the CIA specializes in globally so I have zero dought.

    Sep 5, 2016 9/11 Suspects: Rudy Giuliani

    Mayor Giuliani oversaw the illegal destruction of the 9/11 crime scene and is criminally liable for the deaths of hundreds of emergency workers for not passing on prior warnings about the collapses of the Twin Towers.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @bjondo
  56. @anonymous

    Red necks eat road kill and big river rats in Louisiana , Mississippi and Alabama.

    In Oklahoma and Texas eating Squirrel, a rat with bushy tail, is well known.

    Those are true carrion eaters.

  57. @anonymous

    “So, Necrophiliac-ism…”

    It would just be necrophilia. And the “whitrash” slur isn’t working out like you think. That spelling would be pronounced as “wit-rash”. Like you think you’re a wit, but you’re really just a rash.

  58. renfro says:
    @Moi

    Killing each other seems to be the favorite sport of Muslims.

    Unlike Jews who kill everyone but Jews.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  59. Agent76 says:
    @DESERT FOX

    I also have all of the same data in this single link as a backup since videos and links may go dead at some point.

    September 07, 2016 September 11, 2001: The 15th Anniversary of the Crime and Cover-up of the Century “What Really Happened”?

    New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to be trucked away and shipped to China – an order that constitutes disturbing a crime scene – which is a federal crime.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/september-11-2001-the-15th-anniversary-of-the-crime-and-cover-up-of-the-century/5544414

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  60. Smith says:
    @anonymous

    Yeah, we eat dead animals, you feast on countries i.e. Syria and Iraq.

    Have it your way, bon appetite.

  61. Alfa158 says:
    @RMG

    I wonder if any of these neocons, pro-war progressives, neo-liberals, media hacks, Zionists etc. who keep beating the drum for war are aware that the real human beings out in flyover land are hearing these proposals that we fight with one “ally against another “ally” , and then basically just laughing.

    I suspect not, because you turn on the tube or read a newspaper and these clowns seem to be sincerely baffled and frustrated that the war drums are somehow getting zero response from normal people.

    I made a tongue in cheek proposal to one of these people with whom I was discussing the issue that the US is ideally situated to fight Turkey because we have a huge Air Force Base at Incirlik right inside Turkey. With the short radius of action our planes could fly a whole bunch of combat sorties in a day. He seemed to think that I had something there!

  62. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    Agree. The more one studies history, the more the realization dawns that there is but one God through whom there is life, and then all others that beget societies oriented towards death, in a lesser or greater degree.

  63. Another planted presumption that deserves revision is the “Kurds are our allies” meme.

    This BS is being tossed around by CIA spooks, State Dept. operatives, shady neocons, liberal interventionists, and Big Media spokespeople as if it’s true. Well it’s not. This Kurdish/American ‘alliance’ is totally artificial. Th ‘plight’ of the Kurds will soon be used to justify yet another war. Just watch. The Kurds have nothing to do with the American people and everything to do with globalists, Israel, and foreign intervention.

    Who are the Kurds? Why are they our allies? Is there some kind of organic and mutually-beneficial relationship between Kurds and the American people? Of course not. It’s entirely made up. The “Kurds are our friends” crap is DeepState-speak.

    The Kurds are useful pawns to Zio-Washington and their cronies who occupy our MSM. They are being used to pressure and destabilize various ME nations as needed.

    Who are the Kurds?

    The Kurds are simply an ethnic group that inhabits part of Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq. I wish them well. I also wish me and my European-derived kin whose roots are in the US well. I wish we had a state of our own, too. But we don’t.

    In fact, here in the good ol USA, none of that is supposed to matter anymore. That’s right. We’re a ‘proposition nation’ now. So why can’t the Kurds get with the program?

    Since race no longer exists, then certainly ethnicity doesn’t either, right? So why are we Americans suppose to give a shit about some totally foreign, mostly-Islamic, Kurdish-speaking minority that seeks its own separate state in what’s now part of Iraq, Iran, Turkey or Syria? Why should we everyday Americans give a rat’s ass? After all, we’ve got some 20 million illegal aliens inside our own borders right now and they’re refusing to leave. So ‘Kurdistan’ can wait.

    Let these separatists fight their own stinking wars of secession. That’s their business, not ours.

    As for me, I want to hold on to, and maintain, to my own country. Don’t you? Shouldn’t that matter the most? Of course it should. So let’s build Trump’s wall and preserve what’s left of English-speaking America.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Miro23
  64. A thoroughly informed and incisive analysis.

    One little explored issue is the direct relationship between Trump’s decision to act on his pledge to withdraw our troops from Syria (and possibly from the Middle East and Afghanistan), on the one hand, AND the impeachment paranoia spearheaded primarily by the establishment Democrats, on the other.

    As the Trump withdrawal decision is seen as a daring, brazen, and perhaps unprecedented challenge to the Deep State supremacy, its zealot operatives (inter alia, the neocons, intelligence services class, and Israeli agents) have mobilized to counter such challenge.

    It is a connection worth exploring.

  65. @Agent76

    The zionists not only are destroying America by their blood sucking via all the American troops who have died unknowing that they died for Israel but we have been since 1913 under their control via their money creation via their privately owned FED and IRS .

    Zionists in America are like termites eating away at the foundations of America and they brag about it, as per Netanyahu saying that America is easily moved in any direction that Israel wants.

    The greatest danger to America is zionism!

    • Replies: @Agent76
  66. Marty says:
    @Biff

    What was done to the peace-loving people of Germany by the Jew World Order breaks my heart. The contemporary German is a deeply wounded, confused creature.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  67. Miro23 says:
    @mark green

    This BS is being tossed around by CIA spooks, State Dept. operatives, shady neocons, liberal interventionists, and Big Media spokespeople as if it’s true. Well it’s not. This Kurdish/American ‘alliance’ is totally artificial. The ‘plight’ of the Kurds will soon be used to justify yet another war. Just watch. The Kurds have nothing to do with the American people and everything to do with globalists, Israel, and foreign intervention.

    Who are the Kurds? Why are they our allies? Is there some kind of organic and mutually-beneficial relationship between Kurds and the American people? Of course not. It’s entirely made up. The “Kurds are our friends” crap is DeepState-speak.

    Agreed. And the Turks (the real Israeli target) are greenlighted into Syria the same as the Iraqis were greenlighted into Kuwait.

  68. He timed it right. He’s pretty smart, I think.

  69. Dogman says:

    A mind is a terrible thing to waste!

    Heard of Occam`s razor?

    Trumps first property in Europe is in Istanbul.

    The Trump babies are doing a lot of business in Turkey..

    Before Trump was elected Erdogan wanted to remove Trumps name from the Istanbul towers because of his Islamophobia. The subject seems to have been dropped since his election.

    One hand does indeed wash the other……following the money is always the key to understanding the Donald.

    • Replies: @A123
  70. sally says:
    @RMG

    I think it possible that the EU and US sanctions against Turkey are a false flag designed to cover Trojan Erdogan’s march into the mist of N. Syria. Is it possible Erdogan is suppose to free ISIS and keep things in turmoil in Syria, Iraq and Yemen.? Russia says it is going blend Erdogan into mesh and stuff him into Turkey if he advances into sovereign Syria.. but things are going awfully smoothly it seems to me..

    Trump had to decide whether to support MBS or the Kurds.. he chose to defend MBS.. .. from the rath of the big bad terrible and mighty Houthi.. six thousands new troops in Saudi one website said, other say 3,000.. just yesterday the Saudi made peace with Oman over the occupation of the southern seaports in Yemen.

    Iran has tossed two rockets into their side of their Oil tanker and have promised to make the guilty pay a price..

    something is up. I fear. its too quiet on the middle eastern front.. and reports about China’s 5G Haiwei (spelling unknown) return favorable even without the proprietary Android. Its supposed to use open source android software I am told? if all of the software is open source it would indeed be difficult for back doors to exist. We will see.

  71. Poco says:
    @TKK

    Shouldn’t you be on a flight to the mideast to fight for your ally?

    • LOL: Dannyboy
  72. Agent76 says:
    @DESERT FOX

    As a book reader as I am you should also know this. This is what Eisenhower built and warned America about. The MIC Military Idustrial Complex!

    Dec 30, 2008 Al Qaeda Doesn’t Exist (Documentary) – 1

    This is the Prologue to the new documentary from The Corbett Report, Al Qaeda Doesn’t Exist.

    Jan 19, 2011 Eisenhower’s “Military-Industrial Complex” Speech Origins and Significance by the US National Archives

    President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s farewell address, known for its warnings about the growing power of the “military-industrial complex,” was nearly two years in the making. This Inside the Vaults video short follows newly discovered papers revealing that Eisenhower was deeply involved in crafting the speech, which was to become one of the most famous in American history. The papers were discovered by the family of Eisenhower speechwriter Malcolm Moos and donated to the Eisenhower Presidential Library and Museum.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  73. A123 says:
    @Dogman

    Heard of Occam`s razor?

    Yes. Trump already has more money than he could possibly spend. If he wanted more power & money he had easier options. Going head-to-head with to the deep state establishment wins him no friends.

    Thus, the simplest explanation for all his effort is — He wants to ‘do good‘ perhaps even ‘leave a legacy‘. Only IslamoGlobalists (and their willing dhimmis such as Adam Schiff) say that Trump is doing this for personal gain.

    Erdogan’s groveling on behalf of the Muslim Terrorist Brotherhood will not be successful with Trump. Maybe Erdogan will have better luck with Putin, but I doubt it.

    PEACE 😇

    _______

    https://comicallyincorrect.com/a-f-branco-cartoon-cold-turkey/

    • Replies: @JP
  74. @Agent76

    Robin Cook former British Foreign Secretary, resigned in opposition the war in the mideast and said there was no Al Qaeda and that it was a front for MI6, the CIA and the Mossad, shortly after this Cook went on a hike in the country and was found dead!

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
  75. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Antares

    From the beginning of the 20th century British efforts were aimed at finding a weak point in Arab cultures. A fissure was needed to divide Arabs and set them up against each other. The only thing they could find was an old, unsolved difference between sunnism and shi’ism. Of course those Brits were somehow inspired. As if that wasn’t enough, Zionists started to move into Palestine and took over the area. Also the US chose side for Saudi Arabia and overthrew Iran. The rift was deliberatily created.

    Representing wars and hostilities in the Middle East as the natural result of two oppositional religious currents makes as much sense as explaining the two world wars as a split between catholics and protestants.

    Yes, and Cathey resorting to this bankrupt trope seriously devalues his opinions. (Is this his way of asserting his superiority? Is he one of those?)

  76. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    [to] the twitter lumpenproletariat……..

    Tulsi Gabbard -Verified account
    @TulsiGabbard 5 hours ago

    Great! Thank you @HillaryClinton. You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a …

    … concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and …

    … powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose.
    It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly.

    • Replies: @renfro
    , @anon
  77. SDC says:

    There is no “US Deep State”, there is no “Swamp”. What you are seeing IS the US Govt. The natural result of pure democracy: a bunch of grifters and Jews cracking the whip on their meek gentile slaves.

    That being said, it’s odd to see Trump finally doing something in the interests of his country for once. I can only assume they made up some stuff to impeach him on and he’s trying to rectify his past three years before they boot him and replace him with his controllable VP, Mike Pence.

    America as it stands now is a dead man walking. It could have been saved fifteen or so years ago, but the grifters grifted too much and now their lot is to watch as all they own gets torn from them by Russia, China, and Iran. Its interesting to me how the United States, a country blessed with human capital, land, and natural resources has fallen from ruler of the world to dysfunctional mess in less than 80 years after it destroyed England’s empire in WWII. Rome took centuries after the conquest of Britain to fall. Must be the power of Democracy.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  78. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @DanFromCT

    As Wendell Berry put it right after 9/11, don’t kill one Muslim child and dare tell me you did it to protect my children. Supporting these wars, whose evil is of biblical proportions, is evil on the face of it. The biblical irony is that it’s all been to implement the Yinon Plan extending Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates and its colonizing of the Stans and Ukraine to bring about Israel’s replacement of the US as the world’s superpower.

  79. KA says:

    https://thegrayzone.com/2019/10/16/us-backed-crazy-militias-turkeys-invasion-syria/

    It doesn’t take a lot to realize how stupid the entire project has always been but it takes a lot of courage for a president to actually say so .

  80. renfro says:
    @anon

    Hillary keeps on embarrassing herself……sill blames everyone and everything instead of herself for losing the election.
    You would think she would have learned something about what not to do in a campaign..but nope….she is dumber than a rock.
    She is still blaming Russia, anti feminist, white people, straight people, basically the middle class America for her lose.

    She and Bill are out of the limelight and action and cant stand it….so Hillary is mouthing off like a harpy on Tulsi …..who will she attack next?….stay tuned, it will be someone , her own dems as well as repubs.

    • Replies: @anon
  81. @Poco

    @TKK
    Shouldn’t you be on a flight to the mideast to fight for your ally?

    Ha you took my comment. I was going to suggest a gofundme for his flight.

    By we should help he means someone else’s sons in the military.

    I would be happy to support a fund so he along with Wapo and Times journalists can go risk their lives in a Muslim vs Muslim conflict.

    But more importantly I don’t understand this obsession with protecting people abroad when there are citizens here that aren’t protected. Is it safe to walk DC at night? Ok so why are we focused on Syria?

  82. @anonymous[348]
    I trust your kind has no problem consuming meat of animals which were already dead? Heck, your kind has no problem consuming anything, even the most filthy swine. In home conversations, I refer to it as, swine hogging swine.

    Well what is the time limit exactly? When does it become carrion?

    Are you eating animals from factory operations? If so then you have eaten some carrion. Doesn’t matter what the label says.

    The McRib is back btw.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  83. anon[104] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    shit has hit the fan. She is losing her mind By the election time she will end up in a mental place .

    **** Facebook is claiming it could have prevented Iraq war if it were around in 2003

    Clinton should take note Russia was waiting in 2003 .already It was getting ready . Facebook could have helped Russia It was a Russian project .It was possibly created by Russia .

    BTW , can Facebook prevent the next war between US and ( ?Iran ?Venezuela ? Turkey ? ) ?

    Oh wait! we claim those only after the war had happened

    One wonders why it did not prevent the war between US and Libya or Syria ? – well you know technically those are not the wars These are kinetic movements and air and water ( sand ) show.

  84. Read Giraldi! Wait and see! Is he not bluffing again? He’s only a jewish servant and the pharisees with whom he plays are the heirs of the king of lies…

  85. @renfro

    Sorry.
    This is my response to your another comment that I cannot find now.

    Hillary

    Hillary is a vampire feeding on the blood American boys dying in wars for Israel.
    And she is so yesterday. With this insane accusation of Tulsi she is proving that she is out of her mind. She hates Tulsi because Tulsi is kind of peacenik. She has seen horrors of war. No wars means no blood for vampire Hillary. But Hillary only helps Tulsi. Tulsi can use any advertising even negative advertising. Tulsi is too feminine, gentle and she is not assertive enough, But she has knowledge about wars.
    It is time for women to take control of government to fix all mistakes men had made.
    I would like to see her as VP for Warren.

  86. Agent76 says:
    @DESERT FOX

    You have the picture now. “You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.” George W. Bush

    “Democracy… while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.” John Adams

  87. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    It is time for women to take control of government ….

    Geez, Ilyana, are you forgetting Hilligula is (reputedly, but maybe half lizard) a woman?

    But you’re right about stupid Hillary boosting Tulsi’s campaign. The counter-punching tweets were Trump-worthy and all the news.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  88. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    MSNBC has not reported it yet . They are busy praising other and demonizing a few- Erdogan and Trump.

  89. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “Tulsi is too feminine, gentle and she is not assertive enough”

    Well, that isn’t how I would describe her, but you are my friend, so I won’t say more.

  90. A123 says:

    Just when you thought Hillary reached peak offensiveness…. She finds new ways to offend. (1)

    Failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has reportedly backed out of Fortune’s Most Powerful Women Summit featuring 2020 presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) and former Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

    PEACE 😇

    ______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/18/hillary-clinton-ditches-event-featuring-tulsi-gabbard-kirstjen-nielsen/

  91. renfro says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    It is time for women to take control of government to fix all mistakes men had made.
    I would like to see her as VP for Warren.

    I agree about Warren. Some one said she doesnt appeal to men but she got my attention before my wife even started listening to her. Being married to a very smart woman I have no male delusion that men are always smarter than women.
    She is plainly not a socialist…..she has said herself she is a capitalist BUT ‘capitalism with regulations’ to protect the public and the ‘free enterprise’ system….not the Big Bizness Monopoly political corruption has created.
    Beside her Biden sounds like a wind up toy babbling old establishment fool.
    Plus Warren is as clean as a new born babe…no power and money scandals in her background.

  92. Robjil says:
    @SDC

    The US empire is saddest empire that ever existed. It looked good for decades with all the shiny propaganda. It was all Potemkin village stuff all these years after all. When one looks at who really is in control, it is so easy these days to see who it is. The tracks marks are everywhere. Look at the massive hysteria to stop any tiny bit of talk of it.

    The sad US empire since 1913 wasn’t controlled for US interests. It is only for the FED with Zionist interests that is pulling the huge Golem US empire.

    Roman Empire, at least, was centered on Roman interests. It did not have this problem.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  93. bjondo says:
    @Agent76

    Can’t remember.
    Was it Giuliani or Chertoff?

  94. JP says:
    @A123

    That comic terrible. Where’s the punchline?

  95. JP says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    It is time for women to take control of government to fix all mistakes men had made.

    Have you seen the state of Sweden lately? There are more women in government now than ever was historically the case, especially in the more “progressive” areas. If you took all the scheming princesses in Europe from 1910 back to the fall of Rome they’d likely be outnumbered by the cat lady government ministers of Current Year.

    It’s not a matter of intelligence, it’s a matter of mentality. Women have a mentality that’s well suited for family life and social networking, but is utterly unsuited for thinking in strategic terms.

    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
  96. @Ozymandias

    Leave these people to their fate — does sound appealing, however, it’s open to questions of realism.
    As for your initial point — sufficiently oppressed & brutal tyrant, there are degrees. My understanding is that the Roman’s, the Byzantines & finally Ottomans were powers that tried to balance brutality with decentralised control, & tolerance. I won’t suggest it was perfect, but it often “worked”.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  97. @JP

    About 25 years ago there was upsurge of women drivers. It resulted in increase of accidents considerably. Today women are making less accidents than man. You can verify it with insurance companies. Everything in life is try and error, and everybody is entitled to learning period.
    Problem today with women is that they prefer their carrier to joy of having a family.
    Consequences of this is that white race will be dying out. That only has to be somehow reversed.
    Every white women has to have at least 3 children.
    I think that women are capable to handle that, having three children and also carrier.
    My grandchildren are proving it.

  98. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    p.s.
    Today anti Russian hysteria is changing into paranoia so I am considering to change my name into more acceptable name.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  99. @animalogic

    The Ottomans followed at least to some degree the ancient policy of their predecessors, the Byzantines and the Romans, of ethnarchy – they let subject peoples largely rule themselves as long as they paid tribute to the Sublime Porte and didn’t cause trouble.

    This may be the only way to manage a population made up of squabbling sects and ethnicities.

  100. @RMG

    Erdogan was slapped in the face by Obama when he stopped the Fethullah Gulen coup in 2012-13, and demanded the extradition of Gulen (a more tractable corrupt theocrat than the ‘socialist’ Erdogan ) from Pennsylvania. When Obama refused to turn over the CIA asset without ‘proof’, Erdogan was incredulous and noted that when the US demanded terrorists from Turkey, they were delivered unconditionally. The insult to Erdogan was noted throughout Turkey and the Arab world, and strengthened Erdogan’s hand considerably. It was a huge strategic error by the “adults in the room”, and undermined whatever the US had in mind for Syria (assuming they had something in mind, the counter argument that we fund all sides just for war profiteering is possible).
    Turkey has always been the strongest NATO ally, and is in control of several nuclear weapons. There are 20 million Kurds in Turkey and only 1.5 million in Syria; the Turks will not accept separatist actions from the Kurds, who generally are the bureaucrats of the region living relatively good lives. Re-joining with the Syrian government army will protect the Kurds from slaughter, although their autonomy will take a short-term hit, and dreams of a Kurdistan will be put on hold, again.
    Hopefully Syria will be the first of many US withdrawals in the MidEast. There is nothing for America there.

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @anon
  101. Mike P says:
    @Michael888

    Very good comment. Just one historical nitpick:

    Turkey has always been the strongest NATO ally …

    This has been true for a good long while now. However, in the 1970s and 80s, West-Germany was far and away the strongest ally, at least on land and in the air. For example, by 1989, Germany had some 2,000 Leopard 2 battle tanks (the number topped out at 2,300 in the early 90s) that at the time were unrivalled by anything else, including the Abrams. At the time, it was understood that Germany would only ever fight at home, there was no question of them participating in nonsense such as Afghanistan or Serbia. My sense is that they have let their army fall into disrepair deliberately in order to avoid being dragged into more of these shitty adventures.

  102. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael888

    …the Fethullah Gulen coup in 2012-13,

    Really? I know I’ve been in a time warp, but can it really be 7 years ago? Or was that another coup…..? When will this end…

  103. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:

    Right wing support for Kurds is odd. In their minds Communism is bad, unless the Communists are Kurds and then Communism is good or at the very most irrelevant.

  104. Right wing support for Kurds is odd

    Who are these right wingers who support the Kurds? According to most of UR commentariat, the West, from the billionaires and government through academia, media, and entertainment, down to the antifa in the streets are all left-wing, including the so-called conservatives. I’m not saying I agree but that’s the general viewpoint, like that EU and US are communists. If you think this is baloney, don’t take it up with me.

  105. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    OK, dear lady. May I suggest Tatiana? 😉

  106. @John Johnson

    “When does it become carrion? ”

    The way I understand it, dead animals become carrion once a human can locate the carcass by smell.

  107. @anonymous

    Like many people of all religions and races, what you say about “us” is largely true, damning as it is — but what you say about yourselves is a laughable shameless bunch of excuses and blame-shifting.

    Aggression and cruelty, intolerance of people who think differently, and fear of open debate / discussion are all inherent in Islam due to the text of the koran. That’s true whether there are any white peoples or Christians committing aggression in the world at all.

  108. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Germany and Sweden are never recovering from the invasion and replacement that their female rulers allowed and encouraged. In matters of life and death, we sometimes can’t afford a “learning curve”, male or female.

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