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Washington’s decision to intensify swingeing aid cuts to the Palestinians – the latest targets include cancer patients and peace groups – reveals more than a simple determination to strong-arm the Palestinian leadership to the negotiating table.

Under cover of a supposed peace effort, or “deal of the century”, the Trump administration hopes to solve problems closer to home. It wants finally to shake off the burden of international humanitarian law, and the potential for war crimes trials, that have overshadowed US actions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria – and may yet prove treacherous in dealings with Iran.

The Palestinians have been thrust into the centre of this battle for good reason. They are the most troublesome legacy of a post-war, rules-based international order that the US is now committed to sweeping away. Amputate the Palestinian cause, an injustice festering for more than seven decades, and America’s hand will be freer elsewhere. Might will again be right.

An assault on the already fragile international order as it relates to the Palestinians began in earnest last month. The US stopped all aid to UNRWA, the United Nations refugee agency that helps more than five million Palestinians languishing in camps across the Middle East.

The pressure sharpened last week when \$25m in aid was blocked to hospitals in East Jerusalem that provide a lifeline to Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank, whose health services have withered under a belligerent Israeli occupation.

Then at the weekend, the US revealed it would no longer hand over \$10m to peace groups fostering ties between Israelis and Palestinians.

The only significant transfer the US still makes is \$60m annually to the Palestinian security services, which effectively enforce the occupation on Israel’s behalf. In short, that money benefits Israel, not the Palestinians.

At the same time, the Trump administration revoked the US visa of the Palestinian ambassador to Washington, Husam Zomlot, shortly after shuttering his diplomatic mission. The Palestinians have been cast fully out into the cold.

Most observers wrongly assume that the screws are simply being tightened to force the Palestinians to engage with Trump’s peace plan, even though it is nowhere in sight. Like an unwanted tin can, it has been kicked ever further down the road over the past year. A reasonable presumption is that it will never be unveiled. While the US keeps everyone distracted with empty talk, Israel gets on with its unilateral solutions.

The world is watching, nonetheless. The Palestinian community of Khan Al Ahmar, outside Jerusalem, appears to be days away from demolition. Israel intends to ethnically cleanse its inhabitants to clear the way for more illegal Jewish settlements in a key area that would eradicate any hope of a Palestinian state.

Trump’s recent punitive actions are designed to choke into submission the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, just as Israel once secretly put Palestinians in Gaza on a starvation “diet” to make them more compliant. Israel’s long-standing collective punishment of Palestinians – constituting a war crime under the Fourth Geneva Convention – has now been supplemented by similar types of collective punishment by the US, against Palestinian refugees and cancer patients.

Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and adviser, admitted as much at the weekend. He told the New York Times that the cuts in aid were punishment for the Palestinian leadership “vilifying the [US] administration”.

In an apparent coded reference to international law, Kushner added that it was time to change “false realities”. However feeble international institutions have proved, the Trump administration, like Israel, prefers to be without them.

In particular, both detest the potential constraints imposed by the International Criminal Court at The Hague, which is empowered to prosecute war crimes. Although it was established only in 2002, it draws on a body of international law and notions of human rights that date back to the immediate period after the Second World War.

The crimes committed by Zionist leaders in establishing Israel on the ruins of the Palestinians’ homeland occurred in 1948, just as international law was being born. The Palestinians were among the first, and are still the most glaring, violation of that new rules-based global order.

Righting those historic wrongs is the biggest test of whether international law will ever amount to more than jailing the odd African dictator.

That the Palestinian cause continues to loom large was underscored this month by two challenges conducted in international forums.

Legislators from Israel’s large Palestinian minority have appealed to the United Nations to sanction Israel for recently passing the apartheid-like Nation-State Basic Law. It gives constitutional standing to institutionalised discrimination against the fifth of the population who are not Jewish.

And the Palestinian Authority has alerted the Hague court to the imminent destruction by Israel of Khan Al Ahmar. The ICC is already examining whether to bring a case against Israel over the settlements built on occupied land.

The US State Department has said the aid cuts and closure of the Palestinian embassy were prompted partly by “concerns” over the Hague referral. John Bolton, Trump’s national security adviser, meanwhile, has vowed to shield Israel from any war crimes trials.

Sitting on the fence have been the Europeans. Last week the European parliament passed a resolution warning that Khan Al Ahmar’s destruction and the “forcible transfer” of its inhabitants would be a “grave breach” of international law. In an unusual move, it also threatened to demand compensation from Israel for any damage to infrastructure in Khan Al Ahmar funded by Europe.

Europe’s leading states anxiously wish to uphold the semblance of an international order they believe has prevented their region’s descent into a Third World War. Israel and the US, on the other hand, are determined to use Palestine as the testbed for dismantling these protections.

The Israeli bulldozers sent to Khan Al Ahmar will also launch an assault on Europe and its resolve to defend international law and the Palestinians. When push comes to shove, will Europe’s nerve hold?

A version of this article first appeared in the National, Abu Dhabi.


Jonathan Cook won the Martha Gellhorn Special Prize for Journalism. His books include “Israel and the Clash of Civilisations: Iraq, Iran and the Plan to Remake the Middle East” (Pluto Press) and “Disappearing Palestine: Israel’s Experiments in Human Despair” (Zed Books). His website is

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  1. The saddest thing is, this is probably the only aspect of the Trump agenda that will ever see the light of day. MAGA is dead, people; say hello to MIGA.

    • Agree: Johnnie Walker Read
    • Replies: @Mr M.
  2. It’s sad, really sad, but what more can be expected of us Americans. We are just continuing our legacy of genocide. This past year Trump, without a second thought, broke the back of the indigenous native American protesters over at the Dakota Pipeline. That, and his continuation of the Bush ME wars should be enough evidence of how heartless the man is. We Americans are a cowardly, disingenuous, and greedy lot, who will sit still for anything as long as our fake 401k’s appreciate. We live for the moment, and when the going gets tough, the markets crash, and our homes are repo’ed again, a la 2008,we will lack the spine to force the necessary changes. Collectively, we have a massive guilt complex.
    I pity the Palestinians. With little help from the Jew controlled media, the whole world ignores their demise.

    • Replies: @Windwaves
    , @pB
  3. nsa says:

    Trumpenstein delivers magnificently for his constituency. Cheap fiat money for the jooie banking usurers and wall street scammers. Continued destruction of the ME making the bloodthirsty izzies and domestic jooies deliriously happy. And for the MAGA white trash deplorables…….a miniscule tax cut so they can afford a new blue tarp to cover the trailer roof leak and maybe a new mumu for the 250 lb wife.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Anthony Aaron
    , @HallParvey
  4. @nsa

    Actually, it was b h o who opened the Fed borrowing window to the Wall Street investment crowd … who were able to borrow at 1/4 % interest so that they could play the markets with impunity.

    b h o played both sides against the middle … telling folks to vote for him and ‘hope and change’ bullshit and to shake his fist at Wall Street — all the while enabling them to make more money than they thought existed.

    Like so many of his predecessors in the White House, Trump has surrounded himself with jews in almost every important position imaginable … and they’re more than willing to screw us into the ground — just because they can.

    • Replies: @CalDre
  5. Since when was there an international order based on rules ?
    Naked power rules the world, always did.
    What we see now is that the USA no longer is capable of exerting that naked power, and that China and Russia have increasing power.
    As to the Palestinians, if they indeed face hunger deaths, I’m sure it will backfire, on the USA, and on Israel.

  6. The sooner all the lies and pantomime surrounding the Palestinians are stripped away and the sooner we are confronted with the naked reality of what we are doing, the better.

  7. Miro23 says:

    The Israeli bulldozers sent to Khan Al Ahmar will also launch an assault on Europe and its resolve to defend international law and the Palestinians. When push comes to shove, will Europe’s nerve hold?

    MIGA, MAGA – Israel’s American colonial possession, with its fine collection of Anglo collaborators/traitors is fully engaged in MIGA (Make Israel Great Again) using US \$ Trillions of taxpayer debt and 1000’s of American servicemen’s lives.

    Europe still has some independence (head scratching in Norway as to why Norwegian jets bombed Libya) , and the thing is being fought out on issues like mass immigration and national identity (for example Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban vs. Euro bureaucrat Guy Verhofstadt + the British public with their Brexit vote vs. the same European bureaucrats).

    European resistance to Israeli appropriation of Palestinian land is more amorphous – some popular, some semi-official (e.g. Jeremy Corbyn) and some European Parliament – and is way beyond anything in the US.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  8. Anonymous [AKA "Felicity098"] says:

    The pathetic irony is that both the US and Palestine are being systematically destroyed by Jews. There will be no hope for either country until an Erdogan-style purge of Jews from the US government takes place, especially of the dual-citizen Israelis, and foreign agents such as AIPAC are very forcefully vaporized. Anti-semitism is not only the beginning of wisdom–today it may well be the only route toward survival.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  9. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Using US \$ Trillions of taxpayer debt is a small price to pay for an eternal afterlife singing hosannas to the King of Israel (John 1:49) in heavenly Jerusalem (Rev. 21:2) Only pennies per day!

    “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.” Romans 15:27

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    , @Gordon Pratt
  10. It’s funny how Israel has been able to make the Palestinian issue about terror when all along it has been about territory. Territory stolen from the state of Palestine by the fascist government of Israel who has time and again illegally invaded, stolen land, and murdered citizens of the sovereign state of Palestine.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  11. JC says:

    so while the Palestinians are being exterminated by trump congress the jew lobby and jew run media israel gets billions more from congress to control congress with an ever more iron fist…….where is the rest of the world when it comes to the Pals…jews have everyone under an iron fist

    • Replies: @HallParvey
  12. No surprise that genocide is being done to the Palestinians by Zionist Israel, this is what Zionist do, they wreck and destroy nations and the people of nations as in Palestine/ Iraq / Syria / Yemen and Lebanon and AMERICA as in their attack on America on 911 and as a reward the Zionist controlled U.S. government gives them BILLIONS in aid every year!

    Zionists will eventually destroy America , just as every parasite destroys its host.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  13. Tyrion 2 says:

    International law, like domestic law in the West, has been anarcho-tyrannical for some time. It has not controlled real criminals (that’s the anarchy) instead it has tried to control the innocent (that’s the tyranny). This is not surprising. It is an outgrowth of domestic arrangements in the West.

    Launch indiscriminate rockets into a country for no purpose whatsoever but to kill civilians…that’s fine, you’re the victim, the minority, the oppressed. Just as you are if you rob, rape and cheat at sky high rates.

    Indeed, you deserve welfare and affirmative action…as much as possible – or humanitarian money, for you and your billion eventual descendants…especially from the people you hate. Your righteous hatred means they owe you.

    Even better if you’ve built nothing and achieved nothing. Obviously only their racism could have stopped you. You’re a Person of Colour after all…or did I mean refugee? Both, in this case, will be inherited by your kids!

    Competently defend yourself for many decades, even centuries, and actually win. You’re racist! Apartheid! Nazi! Why are your towns so nice and their towns so not nice. You genocidaire!

    Heck, your state has Original Sin/paler skin, your founding was the greatest crime ever and nothing but your obliteration will wipe it out. Think of the Natives (Americans)! All progressive wordsmiths agree. All your bases belong to them.

    Also, Trump is a monstrous ogre for scrapping international anarcho-tyranny in favour of reality. Cook says so. America belongs to the world. Israel to the Muslims. Europe to the Africans and hopefully Japan and S Korea and Singapore, the last competent countries left, will realise that they’re the oppressors too and Cook will feel good. Oh, to feel as good as an international “justice” warrior! It’s the warm bath of self-enraptured feelings and unearned magnanimity. It’s pathetically self-centred while masquerading as something else

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @peterAUS
    , @CalDre
  14. anarchyst says:

    Of course “we are all Palestinians now”. American “law enforcement” has been trained “lock, stock and barrel” in Israeli military tactics. American “law enforcement” trainers have been given free trips to Israel, to learn firsthand how to handle us “Palestinians”.
    From barking out commands, demanding immediate compliance, to outright murder of American citizens for merely reaching for one’s identification, or not crawling fast enough with one’s hands behind his back, it is obvious that us ordinary law-abiding citizens are considered to be the “enemy”.
    This is all by design, the USA being a “client state” of Israel, with our dual-citizenship politicians getting their “marching orders” straight from Tel Aviv.

  15. Anyone who knowingly participates in egging on the Palestinians to think that they can recover the lands lost is more guilty than those settlers. They would be better off in leaving Israel voluntarily for literally green pastures around the globe than continuing to suffer under an alien culture!

    • Replies: @annamaria
  16. A small point of legal history. The rules-based international order doesn’t date from WWII. The modern system is usually dated from the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 but the concepts underlying it go back thousands of years. Indeed, the whole concept reflects the natural human desire to delimit what’s “mine” from what’s “yours”. Thus, there’s no way in which either the US or Israel could abolish the rules-based international order without destroying themselves in the process. I’ve been reading Mr Cook’s articles for many years and the weakness in his reasoning is that his bottom line is always the same: “Israel wins again”. He never seems to grasp that Israel, with considerable help from the diaspora Jews, is actually digging its own grave.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Z-man
  17. @nsa

    And for the MAGA white trash deplorables…….a miniscule tax cut so they can afford a new blue tarp to cover the trailer roof leak and maybe a new mumu for the 250 lb wife.

    WTDs don’t pay taxes. They work under the table if at all. Much like BTDs . All that big money blather is just more smoke and mirrors designed to bamboozle the sacred middle class deplorable taxpayers. You know, Omaha insurance salesmen. And others.

  18. @Anonymous

    History has a way of repeating itself. Somebody important once said that, but I can’t remember who.

  19. @Anonymous

    For those of us who are pig ignorant, could you specify one of those “Spiritual Blessings”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  20. @JC

    Doesn’t matter about everyone. The only one that counts is Uncle Sam. At least, for now.

  21. Mr. Trump, when do we see legislation for America?
    Where is the wall? Where is immigration reform?
    Tell the media to take a flying fuck and do your gaddamn job.

  22. “Force compliance”, “compel submission”, all such phrases are misleading, as the Zios aren’t looking for submission or compliance, they’re looking for the liquidation of the Palestinian people. Their goal is, and has always been, to exterminate or expel them all.

  23. Arnieus says:

    Trump owes his soul to Rothschild Inc.
    They bailed him out to the tune of a billion dollars back in the 90s. Resorts International, Trump’s company is a long time money laundry for the CIA and Mossad formerly operated by Meyer Lansky, the Zionist gangster of gangsters. Trump has attempted much of what he promised but not in Syria where the US is establishing a completely illegal military presence. Zionists want a new government in Syria that will legitimize Israel’s annexation of the Golan Heights. The Rothschild company, Genie Energy (run by Dick Cheney and a host of well known neocons) has drilling rights to the oil discovered there. Trump has demonstrated his cooperation with Middle East wars and devotion to Israel. He will do their bidding caring nothing for those Palist indians on a reservation in Israel.

  24. renfro says:

    20 September 2018

    A little-known unit in the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is conducting a covert surveillance, espionage and blackmail campaign against American citizens on a large scale. Not since the arrest of Jonathan Jay Pollard and the 1992 expose of the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith’s espionage against civil rights activists has the Israeli government been so actively involved in clandestine influence and espionage against American targets.
    The unit is Israel’s Ministry of Strategic Affairs, headed by director general Sima Vaknin-Gil. Vaknin-Gil reports personally to PM Netanyahu. Vaskin-Gil is a former Brigadier General in the IDF, who once was the Chief Israeli Military Censor. Her Ministry has spawned a “private” security firm, Israel Cyber Shield, headed by former Ministry official and Israeli National Police officer Eran Vasker. According to Haaretz, ICS is part of the spy network gathering dossiers on anti-Israel activists from the BDS movement in the United States.
    The existence and mission of the Ministry first came to prominence in a four-part documentary produced by Al Jazeera, the Qatar-based international news organization. In 2016, Al Jazeera successfully infiltrated the American Zionist apparatus via James Anthony Kleinfeld, a British Jew who graduated from Oxford, spoke six languages and was well-versed in Middle East affairs. Kleinfeld infiltrated The Israel Project and other pro-Israel US organizations to such an extent that the leadership welcomed him with open arms and let down their guard about their collusion with the Israeli government, in targeting pro-Palestine organizations and other Israel critics.
    Armed with a hidden video recorder, Kleinfeld obtained large amounts of material on the inner workings of TIP, AIPAC, the Israeli-American Council, the Maccabee Task Force and the Zionist Organization of America. He got “straight from the horse’s mouth” that the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies is a spy agency working as an unregistered agent of the Israeli government. One TIP official confided to Kleinfeld that they had to be very careful, because they were “a different government working on foreign soil.”
    Earlier this year, Al Jazeera was scheduled to air four 50-minute documentary segments on Kleinfeld’s findings. But, Al Jazeera was required to first inform the organizations that were to be featured in the documentary about the pending airing of the series. At that point, the full weight of the US Zionist apparatus along with the Israeli government came down on the Qatar government to press for censorship of the documentary. Suddenly, the US Zionist lobby, which had allied with Saudi Arabia and the UAE in denouncing Qatar as a terrorist state, backing Hamas and other jihadist organizations, reversed positions and gave their support to Qatar. The documentary has never aired.
    But bootleg copies of the devastating documentary are clearly circulating around. Alain Gresh wrote a lengthy summary for The Nation on August 31, based on his having viewed the entire four-part series, courtesy of a friend in the Middle East. Sooner or later, the entire series will surface, despite the Qatar censorship decision. Excerpts have already been posted on some websites.
    I like to think this is a story that is too big to bury for long. ”

  25. Windwaves says:
    @the grand wazoo

    Very nicely put. Kind of the result, I suspect, of the jew influence on America: will kill for another dollar.

  26. Miggle says:
    @Desert Fox

    Zionists will eventually destroy America , just as every parasite destroys its host.

    Enlightenment. We’ve ended the 30-year war of the Popes to eliminate anyone who disputes that they are the sole rulers of Christendom and that God abdicated to them. They are very angry that the war has ended, but even kings who are members of their sect are ignoring their command to continue cracking down on Protestants. Freedom of religion! Things are looking good!

    But we are not very bright. We have been thinking of different denominations of Christianity, of the same Church, as different religions. Unenlightened.

    The consequence: things are looking bad.

    Enlightenment, freedom of religion, means, perversely, denying the autonomy of the Jews.

    Lose, lose.

    It means the Jews are no longer ruled by their rabbis, who no longer have Ezra-like power over them. The Final Solution to the Jewish Question, known and implemented two and a half millennia ago, has blown away.

    Lose, lose.

    Up springs Zionism. How else can the Jews rule the Jews in the Age of Enlightenment? How else but by establishing an independent Jewish state?

    Lose, lose.

    Jewish emancipation, Jews mixing with everyone, means the virus is all-pervasive.

    Lose, lose.

    Though, as Israel Shahak pointed out in his History, we think we know Jews but we don’t, they are not what we see.

    Zionists will eventually destroy America , just as every parasite destroys its host.

    The Final Solution: make the Jews of our country autonomous again. Place all Jews under the rule of Hasidic Rabbis. Give them the power of life and death, like Ezra, over every Jew of our country, so their only escape is to abandon Judaism by adopting a different religion, so regaining the protection of the normal criminal jurisdiction.

    Then, America will survive. And then, the state falsely named “Israel” will quickly cease to exist.

    Win, win.

  27. Z-man says:
    @Michael Kenny

    Israel, with considerable help from the diaspora Jews, is actually digging its own grave.

    I hope so but we shall see. The Palestinians have been playing this ‘long game’ since Clinton couldn’t get a deal between Arafat and Barak nearly 20 years ago. Unfortunately for the Palestinians they might run out of people before the ‘long game’ (the long haul) ends.
    Hopefully we’ll get The Second Coming of our Lord Jesus, which will make all this stuff academic. (Grin)

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Anonymous
  28. Tyrion 2 says:

    Unfortunately for the Palestinians they might run out of people before the ‘long game’

    Are you really that ignorant? Their population has increased something like 10 times since Israeli independence. No wonder they’re losing with dumb dumbs like you. Their fertility is negated by their cheerleaders’ stupidity.

    • Troll: Z-man
    • Replies: @annamaria
  29. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “It’s pathetically self-centered…”
    — Tyrion 2, you are projecting, again.
    Look at you tribe:
    1. Inflicting a collective punishment on the occupied territories: thousands of children were murdered by the “most moral” IDF.
    2. Assaulting the freedom of information and freedom of speech by imprisoning people for a research in the WWII when the results of the honest research do not agree with the dogmas of the profiteering holo-biz.
    3. Assaulting the freedom of information by sequestering a documentary “Two Hundred Years Together” (that exposes the crimes against humanity by the Jewish Bolsheviks) and a documentary about the Jewish Lobby (, and more.
    4. Actively participating in the revival of Nazism in Ukraine, under the supervision of a Jewish prime minister Groysman installed by the US zionists.
    5. Fomenting and exercising the war of aggression (a supreme crime) against Syria and Iran.
    6. Supporting and arming ISIS and Al Qaeda terrorists thus insulting the memory of the victims of 9/11.
    7. Murdering passengers of the peaceful flotillas (in the international waters), which try to deliver a humanitarian help to people of the occupied territories.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Miggle
  30. annamaria says:
    @Spartoi Dragon

    “…an alien culture!”
    — You do understand that Palestinians are the descendants of ancient Hebrews and the rightful owners of Palestine — unlike the Moldovan thug Lieberman and the former furniture-peddler Bibi? And what kind of “culture” the Mileikovskis and such are bringing to Palestine?
    — The culture of terrorism?
    — The “holy” corruption?
    — The rotten youth? –
    — The visceral, murderous hatred? —
    “Before dawn on Friday morning, Ali Dawabsha, an 18-month-old Palestinian toddler, was burned to death in an arson attack on two homes in the village of Duma in the northern occupied West Bank. Ali’s mother is now in critical condition with serious burns over 90 percent of her body. His father has burns on 80 percent and Ali’s 4-year-old brother has 60 percent burns.
    The murder of Ali Dawabsha is not the first time Israeli settlers have burned Palestinians alive.”
    — The special Jewish morality? –
    “Israeli settlers at a wedding party cheer burning of a Palestinian baby.”

    • Agree: Miggle
    • Replies: @anonymous
  31. Anonymous[324] • Disclaimer says:

    The blessing of genital mutilation is at the forefront. “For it is we [Christians] who are the Circumcision.” (((Philippians 3:3))) It’ll keep Jewhovah from murdering you in the night while you’re camping. Not too shabby of a boon!

  32. peterAUS says:
    @Tyrion 2


    Yours posts most of the time invite plenty of…ahm…passionate… replies. This time, though, nada. Well, except for the resident Palestinian but that doesn’t count really.

    Too close to home/touched that uncomfortable truth I guess.

    Almost funny.

    • LOL: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @MannyShovitz
  33. Tyrion 2 says:

    More bizarre and off-topic spam. Is your English not good enough to add something relevant?

    • Replies: @annamaria
  34. Anonymous[908] • Disclaimer says:

    Hopefully we’ll get The Second Coming of our Lord Jesus? The Jewsus bus is on blocks with the tires rotted off and rats chewing the wiring.

    “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ -the Jewsus character

    They’re all dead, and it never happened in the time frame Jewsus said it would happen. It’s not going to happen. Believers have been sold a kikebag of Hopium with less value than Obama’s pocket change.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  35. Z-man says:

    We shall see.
    I see why there’s a disclaimer next to your moniker. Have a smoke or take a long walk off a short pier. (Grin)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  36. anonymous[403] • Disclaimer says:

    “Israeli settlers at a wedding party cheer burning of a Palestinian baby.”

    They’d make good Christians, if they didn’t already possess the original recipe.

    During America ‘s “Great Awakening” the popular hymn writer, Isaac Watts (1674-1748), even set Christians’ feet to tapping with this crisp little verse:

    What bliss will fill the ransomed souls,
    When they in glory dwell,
    To see the sinner as he rolls,
    In quenchless flames of hell.

    Quotes from Christian Perpetuators of the Mythology of Hell

  37. @Anonymous

    You quote Paul’s letter to the Romans:

    ” For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.” Romans 15:27

    Jew here means Judean, and specifically the Christian Judeans (who were indigent and needed support from Roman Christians. )

    Today’s Jews were known as Pharisees back then. Paul knew the Pharisees well because he was brought as one. He certainly is not encouraging support of them.

    Today’s Jews love to confuse themselves with the ancient Jews. Are you helping them?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  38. Anonymous[982] • Disclaimer says:

    We’ve already seen.

    The Jewsus character was very specific on the due date, and he’s 2000 years late. All those people he said wouldn’t be dead? They are long dead.

    Neither argumentum ad hominem, nor insults, nor passive-aggressive grins—and certainly not Jesus—will save you from the harsh reality that you’re a dimwit dupe as pathetic as Harold Camping.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  39. @peterAUS

    Too close to home/touched that uncomfortable truth I guess.

    Y’all think much too highly of yourselves. Most people here have learned not to give a rat’s ass about the stock hasbara typhoid and his ilk regularly peddle like desperate ware-hawkers.

    But go on and tell yourselves otherwise if it floats your schlemiel.

  40. CalDre says:
    @Anthony Aaron

    The biggest effect of the low rates was to transfer massive wealth from pensioners and other low to middle class savers to the banks.

    As to J. Cook – rules based international order? Hahahahahahahahahaha! It has been dictatorship of the US since WW II – before that it was dictatorship of UK.

    • Replies: @anon
  41. pB says:
    @the grand wazoo

    That, and his continuation of the Bush ME wars should be enough evidence of how heartless the man is.

    wasn’t there a president between bush and trump?

    that eight years of peace on earth is hard to remember i guess

    • Replies: @Anon
  42. CalDre says:
    @Tyrion 2

    It has not controlled real criminals (that’s the anarchy) instead it has tried to control the innocent (that’s the tyranny)

    True – in fact, the US/Israel and their Evil Empire allies have been the world’s greatest criminals, extortionists, murderers, destroyers, usurpers, rapists, liars in the modern age, and so-called “international law” has let them proceed unimpeded. The only brake on their massive, uninterrupted crimes has been public opinion – despite the greatest propaganda and deception campaign in the history of mankind, people still see how perversely evil the rulers of these rogue states are.

    But you are also correct, it does control the innocent. Whenever a Palestinian responds to the constant illegality, crimes, torture, theft, humiliation, desecration, murders, etc. inflicted on his people daily by the terrorist Apartheid State, he is immediately denounced as a criminal and that the terror State has a right to “defend” itself. Sure, just like the Nazis had a right to defend themselves against Jews (NOT), or Stalin had the right to defend the USSR against counter-revolutionaries who objected to his totalitarian rule.

    Yes, when you support pure evil, like you do, you actually are pure evil, and you can actually write the utter nonsense you write.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  43. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    “Their fertility is negated by their cheerleaders’ stupidity.”

    — Are you a Haredim? Look into a mirror:
    “…the haredi fertility rate has remained steady at 6.9 children per woman. … Hundreds of thousands of haredi men receive government stipends of \$120 to \$215 a month to study in yeshiva. And just under half of them do not work…”

    “an epiphenomenon of foolish policies:”
    “The Hasid’s obstinacy is empowered by the new right-wing effort to win ever more exemptions from civil rights laws, in the name of religious liberty. Religious liberty used to mean, roughly, “Live and let live.” Now, it is said to mean, “I don’t have to obey your rules.” … the erosion of the garden wall between church and state – that goyim have no souls, or are like animals, or worse.
    … Add to that the massive subsidies that the Jewish institutional world provides to Jewish fundamentalists: welfare that enables the community to grow more and more insular and less self-sufficient, that cements the power of the rabbinic elite. … This isn’t a clash of cultures, it’s an epiphenomenon of foolish policies.”

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  44. annamaria says:
    @Tyrion 2

    not relevant?
    The facts of the Jewish State’ crimes and transgressions are not relevant for Tyrion 2.
    At least, you stopped mentioning Nazis in each sentence. Guess the proven support for the neo-Nazi by the Jewish State contradicts your dear beliefs in the immaculate morality of the Jewish State. Time for you to come to terms with the amorality of your settlers enjoying the pictures of the burnt-alive Palestinian toddler.

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
  45. Tyrion 2 says:

    Everything I wrote went right over your head while you just screamed “rheeeeeeeeee”. I hear Teen Vogue are hiring.

    • Replies: @CalDre
  46. Do you expect the empire to send money to the barbarians?

    Well, it sometimes happens, but only of the barbarians are strong enough.

  47. Anonymous[939] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gordon Pratt

    Another attempt to deny the reality of the Jew Testament by hairsplitting what can’t be hairsplit.

    We worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” John 4:22

    Am I helping them? LOL Gotta love your psychological projection there.

    • Replies: @Gordon Pratt
  48. anon[382] • Disclaimer says:

    low rates led to borrowing by top predators to finance buying of land real states and depreciated or struggling companies . They did same abroad -called Foreign Direct Investing . They invested in stocks bight supply system of commodities and opened banks or took control of the local banks . They leveraged factories and companies . They then rewrote new contracts and deprived the employees . They did not stop. They then bankrupted the companies forcing into insolvency. They did it at home and abroad .

    Once easy money became unavailable ( by design with Fed ) , money became costly and interest rate rose . FDI returned home throwing the foreign economies in tailspin and generating job loss , sovereign bankruptcy,unrest and domestic civil wars . At home ,dollar’s values started rising .

    The cycle is predictable and executable . Fed does it intentionally and knowingly .

    There are people who would tell us that QE is not printing money. But QE is in effect nothing but printing money .

  49. The unbelievable stupidity and degeneracy of Cook and many commentators is staggering.

    Cook is married to a Palestinian Christian woman. Of course he’s biased towards Palestinians. However, if he does not know how Palestinian Christians are persecuted by Palestinian Muslims, this guy is beyond the pale.

    He scribbles about Muslim Palestinians being ethnically cleansed from Jerusalem. I have to give the Israelis credit for this. Cook is English. The English in London are being ethnically cleansed by Muslims/blacks. Why isn’t he concerned about this? France, Germany, the Netherlands needs to ethnically cleanse their countries of blacks/Muslims/Asians/Jews. Here in the USA, we need to send back the illegals and give blacks their own state.

    I saw a youtube by a Palestinian Muslima who said that Israel will get the West Bank back and will build buffer zones. The Jews are setting the boundaries for Israel. How about if we set boundaries for Western nations?

    I support Israel because that’s where the Jews belong. For the insane anti-Semites here, what would you do with the Jews? I want them to go to Israel.

    The Palestinian Muslims have Jordan and the Gaza Strip. Let them start developing some kind of a functioning state. It will be difficult because the average Palestinian Muslim IQ is 84. At least Cook married a Palestinian Christian. They are intelligent. However, many have fled the Middle East or live in Israel. Cook is wasting his time on this issue.

    As to the foreign aid issue, I am glad Trump cut their foreign aid. I also want him to stop giving Israel foreign aid.

  50. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:

    Killing people selectively with drones (plus unintended spillovers) isn’t the same as starting new wars is it?

  51. I feel bad for the Zionists and fake Hebrews, they’re brainwashed as bad as the “Christian Zionist” crowd. Its a cult, they take advantage of ignorant people to make themselves rich.
    They’re no different than the Jim Jones useful idiots or Applegates heavens gate dupes. They won’t be drinking any kool aid though. Their leaders are setting them up for slaughter, as they have done many times in the past to achieve their goals. It will obviously fail, big time. “Israels” entire history is built on lies, theft and murder. I think they’re gonna find out that they have been chosen by God. But they’re not gonna like what God has planned for them.
    They’re sowing the seeds of their own destruction. They will try and take America down with them when they fail.


  52. peterAUS says:

    You appear to be confused. I’ll try to help.

    For majority of posters here Jews are what Whites are for the, say, “colored/oppressed” people.
    When you get that simple fact all the rest clicks neatly into place.

    Tyron 2 post No. 13 here helps there a bit.

    “Conversation” between a Jew and majority of posters here is eerily similar to …ahm…”conversation” between a member of colored/”oppressed people” and a White person. Very similar angles, methodology, vocabulary….let alone that passion.

    You know…Whites are guilty for whatever doesn’t work for the colored/”oppressed”.
    Jews are guilty for….

    Of course, Whites can’t be acknowledged as positively contributing to all those colored/”opressed” people’s lives in any way. Because, even when it looks positive there was/is/will be that dark racist agenda underneath.
    Sounds familiar?


    The difference is….Jews, Israelis in particular, don’t give a shit. And, should it come to that they’ll FIRE with all whey got.
    Now… for whites….hehe…Jews fault of course. Made us soft and weak.

    Still funny?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  53. CalDre says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Quite the opposite, everything I wrote went over your head. Your a fan boy of a filthy Apartheid terror state, you are the enemy of decency, a disgusting cheerleader of Jew supremacism. Like all filthy racist supremacists, you blame the innocent victims of your evil cult for your cult’s crimes.

    You are a threat to humanity. Shitholes like you are defective, subhuman parasites whose elimination from this planet would be a tremendous, heroic accomplishment.

    • LOL: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Anon
  54. @annamaria

    In Jerusalem I saw the downside of the inward looking Haredi** way of life: the inbreeding was responsible for long lines of “funny looking kids” being shephrrded around, presumably to give them some exercise. My optimistic Reform Jewish friend says (a) they are steadily losing the younger genetations to (some version of?) modernity !nd (b) they preserve the Jewish genetic hetitage – from which I infer he means the brains which turned illiterate immigrants’ children into American Nobel Prize winners. I like to think even an average IQ of immigrants to Australia which is one third of a standard devistion above average is a good thing so I think I can see what he means.
    **my shorthand for all the extreme oddities.

    • Replies: @unseated
  55. Sean says:

    Everyone is in favour of playing by the rules they can win under. Israel could not win and that was a problem for the US, which would face an ever increasing moralising onslaught from American Jews welding the jawbone of an ass (accusations of racism).

    The Palestinians have been thrust into the centre of this battle for good reason. They are the most troublesome legacy of a post-war, rules-based international order that the US is now committed to sweeping away. Amputate the Palestinian cause, an injustice festering for more than seven decades, and America’s hand will be freer elsewhere. Might will again be right

    No, its just that Jewish Diaspora are too formidable an opponent to side against. Instead of fighting the Israel Lobby, overheat it by forcing it to defend the expulsion of the Palestinians. Otherwise the West is finished as a place for European peoples.

  56. unseated says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Steadily losing the younger generations?

    Haredim to surpass Arab population by 2050:

  57. Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:

    I hope your grandchildren won’t read that one day and hope it isn’t genes which produces such vile verbal vomit. I rarely agree with much of what Tyrion 2 writes but he, unlike you, remains acceptable in circles attempting civilised discourse.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @CalDre
  58. @peterAUS

    You are a perfect example of the insane anti-Semite I comment about. Of course I know Jews are for colored people. Jews are a mixed race group.

    I offer a logical solution – all Jews to Israel. You come up with mostly gibberish.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  59. peterAUS says:

    Very nice. Thank you.

    Posts like yours keep me in touch with reality re people around me.

    You at least, apparently, read things on Internet, put some effort in trying to think and can even write in paragraphs.

    Most of people don’t even try. Probably can’t, actually.
    And they vote. And we live in democracies. One person, one vote.

    No wonder we are where we are.
    And, more importantly, what’s, most likely, to happen.
    All good.

  60. @attilathehen

    However, if he [Cook] does not know how Palestinian Christians are persecuted by Palestinian Muslims, this guy is beyond the pale.”
    – “attilathehen” (defender of the supremacist cult of “chosen ones”, as defined in Deuteronomy 7)

    “With the best possible intentions, it may be doubted whether the Jews could possibly seem to either Christians or Moslems proper guardians of the holy places, or custodians of the Holy Land as a whole.
    The reason is this: The places which are most sacred to Christians
    those having to do with Jesus-
    and which are also sacred to Moslems,
    are not only not sacred to Jews,
    but abhorrent to them.”
    – President Woodrow Wilson’s 1919 King-Crane Commission Report


    The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog.”
    – from the Diary of President Harry Truman

    Moshe Sharret also left his conscience in a diary, attila — hence my pseudo name:

    “When I wrote these things I still didn’t know how crushing is the evidence-that was already published, refuting our official version.”

  61. Anonymous [AKA "KW"] says:

    There is no and will be no resistance to Israel’s lust for no less territory than biblical Great Israel in Europe. It doesn’t count what’s been wispered behind closed doors and on toilets, Ireland or, two days ago, Spain notwithstanding. The prime economic power in Europe is Germany.

  62. Tyrion 2 says:

    Cook is married to a Palestinian Christian woman. Of course he’s biased towards Palestinians. However, if he does not know how Palestinian Christians are persecuted by Palestinian Muslims, this guy is beyond the pale.

    He knows. I’ve been there. They all know. They’re just scared. Their big dream is that they all become Israelis but they’re loathe to admit it. It must be psychologically stressful to have to live in such dissonance and falsehood.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  63. Anonymous [AKA "Shootin Blanks"] says:

    There’s a good reason why Israel and its US satellite are attacking rule of law. Unless Israel can destroy rule of law, the Jewish State cannot continue to exist. Israel has made binding commitments that are not compatible with Zionist Apartheid and extermination of indigenes. Those commitments are already starting to bite.

    These commitments are legal requisites of sovereignty. To resolve this internal contradiction we currently see Israel interpreting its commitments in bad faith. That will escalate into Israeli state repudiation of core obligations and commitments, but that is legally impossible given the continuity of obligations set out in HRC General Comment 26.

    Israel’s contempt for its jus cogens obligations and commitments will increasingly run afoul of municipal law in other ICCPR treaty parties. In the US, for example, the Leahy Law and the Symington-Glenn Amendment prohibit aid to Israel. The endgame for Israel is quasi-state status like Taiwan with indigenous Palestinians as a brutalized helot caste. Israeli Jews with something to offer the world don’t want to live in an atavistic desert theocracy. The ones who can will emigrate and the Jewish State will shrivel away, having sterilized themselves with DU that blew back from their attacks on civilians in Gaza. Their sperms just lie there like Palestinians with their legs blown off.

    Israel’s never been a real state. It has always been nothing more than the City of London’s last imperial garrison. Its gradual extinction will soon be a minutely-documented historical artifact:

    Israel is hanging on through the limited aim of keeping the illegal US arms sales flowing, so the regime can hang on as a pariah state.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  64. Mr M. says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    There never was any intention of living up to the MAGA slogan.

    It was and always was about Israel, Trumps staff was and is full of zionists and zionists Christians from day one to the present day. Those who did not agree with the policy of submission to Israel were fired or forced out into the cold using bogus hit pieces from zionist controlled media outlets.

    There never will be a wall built as Trump and his business cronies want that free slave labor from down south, all you will ever get is tweets about it and talks about supporting MAGA.

    The trade war serve no other means than breaking the backs of smaller independent mom and pop businesses, stores and banks while also making every US citizen so debt ridden that they will be no better than the Irish peasants of the 18th century who were slave bound to a small homestead and a plot of land they had to lease from their foreign masters.

    The broken and worn out military is being redeployed to invade Iran, Syria and Russia as soon as a pretext is found for it. Be it lies about yellow cakes or gas attacks, an invasion will take place so Israel can move in and build their greater Israel while the rest of the world burns.

    Europe will be destroyed by invading Islamic warriors on the expense of the US/UK tax payers in a bid to force the Jews living there to flee to Israel to help speed up the colonization of the Gaza and the West bank.

    And if you think its about Hillary, then you can forget it. She was just as much of a zionist servant as Trump was, only difference is that they had to bribe Hillary with millions of dollars stolen from the US tax payers.

    The US political system is as corrupt and single minded as any Socialist state out there in the world today. Federal and state spending is through the roof, bribes are a common thing and the media is run by the same corporations state who control the state. Citizens are vanished off the streets by the police and military and every aspect of ones life is spied on the state.

    Welcome to the Zionist Socialist States of America or Z.S.S.A. for short, a nation where everything is by the Zionists, for the Zionists.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  65. @Anonymous

    Yes, salvation from the Judeans who were all that remained of the Israelites.

    Some of the Judeans were Pharisees. Jesus called the Pharisees, founders of what is now called Judaism, hypocrites. He told his followers to respect their teachings but not to copy their behaviour.

    Do you think Paul wanted to subsidize anti-Christian hypocrites?

    Who benefits from the confusion you sow except the spiritual descendants of those hypocrites?

  66. annamaria says:

    “…what Tyrion 2 writes .. remains acceptable in circles attempting civilized discourse.”
    — You need to reread Tyrion 2′ posts, all of which are filled with hatred and warmongering and supremacist venom.

  67. Z-man says:

    You have very little wit and what you have is mostly dim.
    Passive aggressive my arse, I’m just trying to be polite on this site, s-bag.
    Humm, ‘ad hominem’ troll words, lol!!

  68. @Tyrion 2

    Exactly. Israeli Christian Arabs have no problems in Israel. They are not fleeing Israeli because of Jewish persecution. I wish Nazareth and Bethlehem had been kept in Israel, but the evil Christian Zionists and cowardly Roman Catholics did nothing about this These were Christian Palestinian towns. Maybe Israel can reconquer them once they ethnically cleanse the West Bank.

    In Gaza, the few Gazan Palestinian Christians had to flee because of Muslim persecution. Until Westerners realize that our main enemy is Islam, we are going to have difficult times. The Jews are a side issue.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @L.K
    , @pensword
    , @Anon
  69. Z-man says:

    Fools or devils both of you. Palestinian Muslims might be cruel to some Christians because of their precieved , rightly so, betrayal by the West to the Palestinians. This guy Tyrion 2 is a Zionist troll, I don’t know about anttilthenen. *
    *Please get easier to spell monikers, lol.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  70. L.K says:

    ‘Attilathehen’, you are so OBVIOUSLY a Zionist Hasbara troll, who the hell do you think you are fooling with this nonsense of yours??

    US Colonel Patrick Lang, a retired senior officer of U.S. Military Intelligence and U.S. Army Special Forces (The Green Berets) and war veteran, had this to say about your Zionist heroes’ treatment of Palestinian Christians, after one of his visits to the occupied territories:

    “In Beit Suhur outside Bethlehem, I have seen IDF troops shoot at Palestinian Christian women hanging out laundry in their gardens. This was done with tank coaxial machine guns from within a bermed up dirt fort a couple of hundred yards away, and evidently just for the fun of it.”

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @attilathehen
  71. L.K says:

    WARNING: Tyrion 2, ‘attilathehen’, peterAus, Wizard of Deception(oz) and many others such as: crimson2, Lot, sam the sham, inZitatus, etc, are well known Hasbara rats/ Zionist shills.

    Watch out for these skunks as they pop up in various threads and observe the patterns.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  72. Tyrion 2 says:

    Given the fact that fewer have been killed in 70 years than some single months of the Syrian civil war, this is evidently either a lie or a ridiculously freak occurence.

    Or maybe there are constant lynchings of innocent black men in America by racist white mobs? Remember Emmet Till, decades from before when I was born.

    • Troll: Z-man
  73. Z-man says:

    My agree button didn’t work. And you are too kind in describing them. (Grin)

  74. @L.K

    Where should we put the Jews?

  75. @Z-man

    Where should we put the Jews?

    I know you’ll give me a stupid answer because you can’t handle an easy handle like “attilathehen.”

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Anon
  76. Z-man says:

    I should give you a blunt answer as that is all you deserve antithethem or whatever you call yourself. But I will give you a measured response. There should be a one state solution with one man one vote, with all the international guarantees for both populations. Outside of that, the long ‘beaten to death’ two state solution that most Ay-rab states have conceded would do but the Zionists only want it on Izruels terms.
    Now please lose my number or ‘off’ yourself.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  77. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnnie Walker Read

    Territory stolen from the state of Palestine by the fascist government of Israel

    In which war did Israel gain territory from the “state of Palestine?”

  78. @Z-man

    “One man, one vote.” I was right, you did prove your stupidity in your response.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  79. @pensword

    It’s easy to cherry pick news to fit your viewpoint.

    I’ve been to Israel. I went for Christmas and had a very nice time. The only time I had problems was whenever there were Muslims around.

    • Replies: @pensword
    , @pensword
  80. Z-man says:

    Please put me on your ignore list you Zionist, vermin troll.

  81. Miggle says:

    Well put, annamaria.

    But “Israel” is not only a deeply evil entity, it is the greatest enemy of the Jews, perhaps in all history. For a generation after World War II there was universal affection for the Jews. Thanks to the Jewish terrorist state, and the majority support of genocide by today’s Jews, that respect has vanished, and worse. That reputation of Jewish support of genocide may be the only trace of the “Jewish state” remaining in a few decades, the only thing remembered.

    If it weren’t for that evil there would not be any articles at Unz Review in which the sinister cunning of the Jews is exposed. There simply would not be any such subject. But instead we have articles like this one on the evil of Trump’s America caused by “Israel” and the controlling power of American Jews, and like the recent one exposing a major, coordinated project by Jews to invent Australian genocide, to give normalcy to genocide while pointing the finger away from Israel at a different culprit. And more and more of that kind.

    Of course, there are a few important Jewish writers who perhaps have led the way in exposing the evil of Israel. They deserve great respect.

    And so do some Jewish sects which seem to us quirky but are good people. “Groups like Neturei Karta and the Satmar Hasidim bitterly oppose the modern State of Israel.” More here and at their own sites. These people never engage in political scheming, if my understanding is correct.

    Bring on the One State Solution.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  82. Them Guys says:
    @Mr M.

    Well stated factual truths. as for…”Welcome to the Zionist Socialist States of America or Z.S.S.A. for short, a nation where everything is by the Zionists, for the Zionists.”

    I use a shorter version of…Welcome to, The Jewnited Snakes Of Amerika.

    Run by the Modern day version of KKK….The… KosherKikesKlan.

  83. annamaria says:

    “For a generation after World War II there was universal affection for the Jews. Thanks to the Jewish terrorist state, and the majority support of genocide by today’s Jews, that respect has vanished, and worse.”
    — This is a bitter truth that the Jewish Community at large avoids facing.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  84. annamaria says:

    The former bouncer at a nightclub in Moldova and felon Avi Lieberman (the ugly face and pride of the Jewish State) steps forward with a declaration that refutes the international law and insults the memory of the murdered Russian personnel:

    ” The top Israeli military official stated that “nothing” has or will change in Tel Aviv’s approach to the Arab Republic… ”

    Russian spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov: ” We believe that the blame for the Russian Il-20 aircraft tragedy lies entirely with the Israeli Air Force.” … The plane was shot down by the Syrian air defense units as Israeli’s F-16s effectively used it as a cover during the attack on its neighbor.”

    — In short, the obnoxious theocratic state is intended to continue violating the sovereignty of Syria and Lebanon in the spirit of Eretz Israel or Jewish Lebensraum:

    “The term Lebensraum is applied to Israel’s territorial actions in the 1948 Arab–Israeli war and in the policies for Israeli settlement of the Palestinian territories.
    Efraim Eitam, an Israeli government minister under Prime minister Ariel Sharon, used the term Lebensraum as the conceptual basis for his statements that all Arab citizens of Israel (Israeli Arabs) and all Palestinians should either be persuaded or forced to leave Israel and the Palestinian Territories.”

    — Guess, Ukraine will be the next on a list of Jewish Lebensraum, considering that the Jewish State government (and the zi0nized US government) has been supporting the revival of Nazism in Ukraine:

    • Replies: @Miggle
  85. Miggle says:

    — In short, the obnoxious theocratic state is intended to continue violating the sovereignty of Syria and Lebanon in the spirit of Eretz Israel or Jewish Lebensraum:

    “The term Lebensraum is applied to Israel’s territorial actions in the 1948 Arab–Israeli war and in the policies for Israeli settlement of the Palestinian territories.
    Efraim Eitam, an Israeli government minister under Prime minister Ariel Sharon, used the term Lebensraum as the conceptual basis for his statements that all Arab citizens of Israel (Israeli Arabs) and all Palestinians should either be persuaded or forced to leave Israel and the Palestinian Territories.”

    Talking that kind of language, we can call the naked aggression of 1967 GeneralplanOst, or the start of it. Hitler didn’t get far with his GeneralplanOst but his successors have been working away at their version for decades.

  86. Z-man says:

    “For a generation after World War II there was universal affection for the Jews.

    I have my doubts about that one. (Sage grin)
    The rest of miggles post I of course agree with.

  87. Anon[162] • Disclaimer says:

    The Jewish eschatology requires that everyone, but Jews, to be cleansed from Israel for their Messianic time to arrive. This is clear in the Jewish texts.

    The religious Jews wish for this to occur ASAP. Appealing to the actions of another Semitic religion, which is also fruit of the poison tree, is a poor excuse. The Jews are clearly responsible for what occurs in Israel, and the outcomes clearly benefit Jewish theological interests. In any court of law, these circumstances would lead to a guilty verdict.

    Is your entire existence one long bout of lying or, if you are not Jewish, than one of inexplicable ignorance in regard to Jewish eschatology?

    It it is the latter, then you are out of your depth in the conversation.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  88. Anon[162] • Disclaimer says:

    Morally speaking, a “that’s their problem” reply is more than suitable.

    The Jews have been the problem of other people for far too long and the world is largely is completely exhausted by them.

    The Jews merely are lucky to have survived in any form until now. That they aren’t trying their hardest not to be noticed after their past, but instead to be the most noticed people on the planet via their continued central role in political agitation of all kinds (for which non-Jewish bodies continue to accrue), speaks volumes as to what their deserved fate may be.

    The practical answer is that the Jews will go to the “Kingdom of Judea”, ahem… I mean “Israel”, and be quarantined there for a long time.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  89. pensword says:

    It’s easy to cherry pick news to fit your viewpoint, saith the Crown Prince of Cherry-Picking.

    Any comment about the regular price-tag attacks suffered by Palestinian Christians? Or are you just going to ignore those, thereby admitting their reality?

    I’ve been to Israel. I went for Christmas and had a very nice time.

    Ah, a tourist cum expert on all things Palestinian! One trip to the Holy Land, some bad encounters with muslims and he’s a self-appointed authority.

    You certainly know nothing of what you speak. Or you’re a simple fraud.

  90. pensword says:

    From the National Catholic Reporter article to which you linked:

    Many people explain that the declining Christian population in Palestine is due to the overall difficulties of living in Palestine, not because of overt discrimination towards Christians.

    Even your own cherry-picking doesn’t support your lie that “Gazan Palestinian Christians had to flee because of Muslim persecution.”

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  91. annamaria says:

    How to make Jewish problem into a problem for other people.

    Germany, Berlin May 11-13 2012, Goethe Institute:
    “(((Globalists))) discuss how to subvert Poland and destroy the Polish people.”
    alkemystery, 2 weeks ago:” This is quasi-staged (notice the upper-level audience @ 27:15). I’ve identified several of the named individuals, including the leader Marc Siegel, as academics involved in theater. While I have no doubt the sentiments expressed are genuine, this performance appears to be a collective brainstorming and wishful thinking session for international J-leftists. I would caution against overreacting to this theater as none of these individuals exert major influence over world events. I’m sure they’re funded by the usual suspects, though.”
    Robert Ciesluk, 2 weeks ago: “Oh, they know we know them. Over 1000 years “together.” They know the project Israel is soon to be over. No nation is cautious more than we are, who Jews are.”

  92. @Anon

    If the Jews want to cleanse the non-Jews out of Israel, ok. But I want to cleanse the West of Jews/blacks/Asians/Muslims. We have to put these people somewhere. The Jews can go to Israel, the blacks will get their own state, Asians will go back to Asia, and Muslims will go back to Muslim countries.

    The papacy will have to moved to either the Congo or the Philippines as the RCC is now a non-white church.

    I am a Western nationalist and want to save the West. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  93. @pensword

    Define Palestine. Again, Israel has a substantial Israeli Christian Arab population. Many leave for many reasons. As long as Christian holy sites are protected and Israeli Christian Arabs are not being killed, we can deal with this problem.

    Where should we put the Jews?

    • Replies: @pensword
  94. Agent76 says:

    NOVEMBER 18, 2012 Israel and the U.S. CREATED Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Qaeda

    Creating the Enemies We Now Fight Against. We’ve extensively documented that the U.S. and Israel created Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups in an attempt to fight other enemies.

  95. pensword says:

    Can’t answer my questions, can you?

    As long as Christian holy sites are protected

    With “protection” like this, who needs aggression?

    For three days beginning Feb. 25, the heads of churches in Jerusalem took the nearly unprecedented step of closing off the Holy Sepulchre to the world. This happened at the height of the Easter season, at the holiest site in Christendom, when all eyes were turned toward Jerusalem. In doing this, the churches were telling the world it needs to pay attention.

    In their address, the Heads of Churches stated that they had done this in response to “the systematic campaign against the Churches and the Christian community in the Holy Land.” This campaign, they emphasized, was “an attempt to weaken the Christian presence in Jerusalem.”

    The final straw that led to this unprecedented action was a decision by the Israeli Municipality in Jerusalem to begin taxing, not the Holy Sepulchre itself, but all the works of Jerusalem’s churches. The new Israeli legislation would begin taxing Christian hospitals, schools, elder care centers, social service agencies, even orphanages—each of these being ways the churches live out and practice their faith. Freedom of religion, an essential key to the Christian presence in Jerusalem, was set to be severely compromised.

    Prior to this, the churches and the Christians in the Holy Land have been subject to many other trials, constituting what the Heads of the Churches collectively described as a “systematic campaign” against them. This includes the confiscation of church lands, destruction of church properties, denial of religious freedom, and discriminatory actions against the schools. …

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  96. pensword says:

    Nice attempt at deflection, but Israel isn’t targeting strictly commercial enterprises:

    The new Israeli legislation would begin taxing Christian hospitals, schools, elder care centers, social service agencies, even orphanages—each of these being ways the churches live out and practice their faith. link

    From the same article:

    In 2012 Hagihon, the Israeli water company aligned with the state, attempted to begin charging the Church of the Holy Sepulchre for its water, to which free access and use has traditionally been guaranteed. It also attempted to retro charge the churches more than \$2.3 million for the previous 15 years.

    What’s more:

    Attacks on Church properties and institutions happen so frequently that they have even been given a name: “price tag attacks.” In 2014, Latin Patriarch Twal stated, “All of you are well aware of the recent acts of vandalism against Christians, Muslims and Druze. There has been a marked increase of ‘price tag’ provocations within Israel.” The heads of all the churches in Jerusalem have spoken out about this on numerous occasions, including after the arson at the Latrun Monastery, the desecration of convents and cemeteries, and the burning of the Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fishes.


    Another recent example of this ongoing “campaign against the Churches and Christians of the Holy Land” has been the confiscation of Christian lands, especially in the Cremisan Valley outside Bethlehem. To build its illegal separation/annexation barrier, Israel seized private lands owned by a convent, a monastery and 58 Christian families. The Latin Patriarchate, in its legal summary, stated that the families would lose their agricultural livelihoods and that “the convent and school, which educates 450 children, would be situated in a closed military area.” The Vatican and the churches fought this for more than nine years, and ultimately lost.

    Israel’s “systematic campaign” has resulted in the Christian population of the Holy Land plummetting from 18 percent 70 years ago to less than 2 percent today.

    Such a “light unto the nations,” no?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  97. Tyrion 2 says:

    I’ve already demonstrated how your source fundamentally misrepresents the situation. You just repeat it in turn. Anyone who has been there would know you’re writing nonsense anyway. There are endless tour groups of Christian tourists walking around the old city. They stop, they pray, they sing, they never have any issues. A temporary municipal tax evasion dispute does not change that.

    Contrast Israel with Iran. Bahai is native to Iran but is banned there. It is not native to Israel but Israel is the only country in the Middle East that would guarantee tolerance to them so now Israel hosts the Bahai HQ.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @pensword
  98. CalDre says:

    I call it how it is.

    You want people to be civil to mass murdering supremacist scumbags. Sorry – actually, not sorry – I’d rather they all die so their dangerous. malignant genetic defect is forever removed from the population pool.

    Israelis are in many ways worse than Nazis (and I would say any regards in which they are better is only due to their relatively lesser power) and so are those defending them. Period.

    Tyrion 2 in particular is a particular savage disgrace of humanity with an utterly defective gene pool.

    • Replies: @pensword
  99. Them Guys says:
    @Tyrion 2

    You Lie Jewboy..Several large sized color photos have been put online, that show the vast destruction of the Oldest still standing Catholic Church Building in the world…It dates back to 3rd century iirc.

    It was Vandalized, Looted, Wrecked physically where possible, then Torched aka Burned beyond repair…a Complete Total wreck and Burn…Job done By Isreali Jewish “Yooots” aka Older-Teen “Youths” and young adults…When finally busted and admitted to their massive guilt. All they ended up with as punishment was…Short Probation terms each.

    Commit Arson in most any Other nation or place, and they’d likely get a 25 to life prison sentence.

    In USA Such criminal acts perped against ANY Religious establishment or property etc and its a Major, Big-Time crime offence…Not for a Jew in Israel though eh….Riiiggghhttt! Because we know them Self Chozens cannot ever do wrong, never commit a sin and never commit any crimes, as long as its done against a NON Jew or some stuff or property etc owned by a Goyim Gentile Non Jew.

    Yet so typical, You keep defending such vile Jews No Matter What. Then Jewry wonders why they are so worldwide despised? Perhaps its that high IQ we hear so often about eh? So High an IQ they cannot figure out the simpilest of things, such as why do so many folks despise Jews. And why does it end up many times as a Big-Boot-Out of Every Host nation so far in past 1865 years or so, for a grand total of 300-seperate boot outs from, 109 Nations!…Only the USA as current Host nation has not as yet Booted out its vile Jewish menace….Tic-Toc–keep being stiff necked deniars, Tic-Toc.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  100. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Them Guys

    I have no idea what most of your post is about. Are you a satire of a psychotic Jew obsessive or are you actually in the grip of psychosis?

    If more loons like you drift to anti-Semitism, does that mean the ghost hunters and UFO sighters lose business?

  101. pensword says:
    @Tyrion 2

    I’ve already demonstrated

    … that you’re just another hasbara agent. We get it.

    Some of what churches own constitutes commercial property. Those institutions I listed do not. You attempt to “fundamentally misrepresent the situation” by pretending that the only kind of church properties taxed are commercial, which is false on its face. You also ignore entirely the fact that Israel imposed retroactive water taxes on the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is clearly a significant burden on their exercise of religion. Never mind the incessant “price-tag” attacks and property confiscation, phenomena to which you, unsurprisingly, have no ready response.

    Here’s another good example of your attempt to “fundamentally misrepresent the situation”:

    Anyone who has been there would know you’re writing nonsense anyway. There are endless tour groups of Christian tourists walking around the old city. They stop, they pray, they sing, they never have any issues. A temporary municipal tax evasion dispute does not change that.

    Is the experience of Christian tourist groups, whose tours are highly circumscribed, remotely representative of the experience of Palestinian Christians, who actually live there?

    You aren’t even that good at what you’re trying to do.

    Then there’s this stale tu quoque fallacy so typical of your ilk:

    Contrast Israel with Iran.

    O.K., let’s see … Iran is vilified as public enemy #1 by American politicians and numerous media pundits whose fealty to Israel knows no shame; it currently suffers from the imposition of harsh economic sanctions as a consequence. Israel, however, is lauded as the Middle East’s “only democracy” and receives billions of American tax dollars annually in spite of its appalling human rights record and manifest hypocrisy as per religious liberty.

    Seems to be a double standard at play.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  102. pensword says:

    I call it how it is.

    I hear you, but he feasts upon angry responses, like a vulture to carrion. His “LOL” at your anger (as seen above) should be all the evidence you need.

    Best to clinically and calmly dismantle their lies and be done with it. Or just let them stew in their own roiling viscera. They’re miserable enough as it is without our help.

  103. Tyrion 2 says:

    It isn’t double standards to say that a temporary municipal tax dispute is irrelevant compared to banning a religion. Get a grip.

    • Replies: @pensword
  104. pensword says:
    @Tyrion 2

    So, your defense boils down to “Well, our people might have persecuted Christians, vandalized their churches and sanctuaries, confiscated their property and imposed discriminatory legislation upon them, but I’ll just skip all that, relegate it to a ‘temporary municipal tax dispute’ and throw a logical fallacy in for good measure.”

    Get your own grip.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Tyrion 2
  105. Z-man says:

    Don’t waste your time with these trolls…on second thought go at it man you’re doing a good job.

    • Replies: @pensword
  106. Tyrion 2 says:

    I was in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre very recently. It was in a fine state, if a little bit of an architectural mish mash due to many branches of Christiniatity fighting (understandable) turf wars over who gets what and where.

    Here’s an article about America taxing synagogues in a similar way. Tax disputes happen. Life is messy. Religious institutions are often corrupted and abuse their financial privileges. That’s humanity.

    Israel has freedom of religion. Iran bans religions outright. You think these are equivalent, so you are crazy.

  107. pensword says:

    Don’t waste your time with these trolls…on second thought go at it man you’re doing a good job.

    Thank you, but your first admonition is good.

    The drama unfolds a little like this:

    attilathechicken: “Christians are fleeing the Holy Land because of muslim persecution.”
    pensword: [provides proof that Christians are fleeing the Holy Land because of Jewish persecution]
    attilathechicken: “But those stories are cherry-picked! Look, here’s an article that proves what I say, though it contains no evidence to support my claims!”
    pensword: [provides more proof of Jewish discrimination and oppression of Christians]
    tiresome too: “Here’s an article that I can use to try and obfuscate the reality of what’s happening.”
    pensword: “What about all the other evidence I provided?”
    tiresome too: “Forget about it. Let me just say that Iran is waaaaay worse. Oh, and by the by, let me try to shift the discussion to a topic entirely unrelated to those ‘price-tag’ attacks. Don’t worry, I’ll do my best to create a diversion. It’s all a mitzvot, anyway.” [etcetera, ad nauseum]

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Z-man
  108. Z-man says:

    That’s how these trolls work. I’ve seen this too many times now on the ‘inter-nut’, you make a true statement and the trolls come out and ask for proof. So suddenly the poor guy is coming back with proof and the troll scoffs at that and so on and so on. You end up doing all this work for nothing as these guys are collecting a check (US taxpayers cash no doubt) in Tel Aviv and laughing all the way to the bank.

  109. pensword says:

    Nicely put.

    Stick around long enough and they might just start bringing their heavy-hitters out. These guys just aren’t good enough, even for the minors. And their only pitch is a limply-tossed spitball.

    • Agree: Them Guys
    • LOL: Z-man
  110. Anonymous [AKA "hnrast"] says: • Website

    When the international community will grow a conscience and dismantle the illegitimate Zionist regime and hang by the neck until dead each and every one of them beginning with the Butcher of Gaza and Prime Assassin Benjamin the Beast Netanyahu and his entire family?

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