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Nunes: FBI and DOJ Perps Could be Put on Trial
House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes has stated that “DOJ and FBI are not above the law,” and could face legal consequences for alleged abuses of the FISA court, reports Ray McGovern.
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Throwing down the gauntlet on alleged abuse of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) by the Department of Justice and the FBI, House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) stated that there could be legal consequences for officials who may have misled the FISA court. “If they need to be put on trial, we will put them on trial,” he said. “The reason Congress exists is to oversee these agencies that we created.”

Devin Nunes gives an interview with Full Measure’s Sharyl Attkisson
Devin Nunes gives an interview with Full Measure’s Sharyl Attkisson

Nunes took this highly unusual, no-holds-barred stance during an interview with Emmy-award winning investigative journalist Sharyl Attkisson, which aired on Sunday.

Attkisson said she had invited both Nunes and House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) but that only Nunes agreed. She asked him about Schiff’s charge that Nunes’ goal was “to put the FBI and DOJ on trial.” What followed was very atypical bluntness — candor normally considered quite unacceptable in polite circles of the Washington Establishment.

Rather than play the diplomat and disavow what Schiff contended was Nunes’ goal, Nunes said, in effect, let the chips fall where they may. He unapologetically averred that, yes, a criminal trial might well be the outcome. “DOJ and FBI are not above the law,” he stated emphatically. “If they are committing abuse before a secret court getting warrants on American citizens, you’re darn right that we’re going to put them on trial.”

Die Is Cast

The stakes are very high. Current and former senior officials — and not only from DOJ and FBI, but from other agencies like the CIA and NSA, whom documents and testimony show were involved in providing faulty information to justify a FISA warrant to monitor former Trump campaign official Carter Page — may suddenly find themselves in considerable legal jeopardy. Like, felony territory.

This was not supposed to happen. Mrs. Clinton was a shoo-in, remember? Back when the FISA surveillance warrant of Page was obtained, just weeks before the November 2016 election, there seemed to be no need to hide tracks, because, even if these extracurricular activities were discovered, the perps would have looked forward to award certificates rather than legal problems under a Trump presidency.

Thus, the knives will be coming out. Mostly because the mainstream media will make a major effort – together with Schiff-mates in the Democratic Party – to marginalize Nunes, those who find themselves in jeopardy can be expected to push back strongly.

If past is precedent, they will be confident that, with their powerful allies within the FBI/DOJ/CIA “Deep State” they will be able to counter Nunes and show him and the other congressional investigation committee chairs, where the power lies. The conventional wisdom is that Nunes and the others have bit off far more than they can chew. And the odds do not favor folks, including oversight committee chairs, who buck the system.

Staying Power

On the other hand, the presumptive perps have not run into a chairman like Nunes in four decades, since Congressmen Lucien Nedzi (D-Mich.), Otis Pike (D-NY), and Sen. Frank Church (D-Idaho) ran tough, explosive hearings on the abuses of a previous generation deep state, including massive domestic spying revealed by quintessential investigative reporter Seymour Hersh in December 1974. (Actually, this is largely why the congressional intelligence oversight committees were later established, and why the FISA law was passed in 1978.)

At this point, one is tempted to say plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose – or the more things change, the more they stay the same – but that would be only half correct in this context. Yes, scoundrels will always take liberties with the law to spy on others. But the huge difference today is that mainstream media have no room for those who uncover government crimes and abuse. And this will be a major impediment to efforts by Nunes and other committee chairs to inform the public.

One glaring sign of the media’s unwillingness to displease corporate masters and Official Washington is the harsh reality that Hersh’s most recent explosive investigations, using his large array of government sources to explore front-burner issues, have not been able to find a home in any English-speaking newspaper or journal. In a sense, this provides what might be called a “confidence-building” factor, giving some assurance to deep-state perps that they will be able to ride this out, and that congressional committee chairs will once again learn to know their (subservient) place.

Much will depend on whether top DOJ and FBI officials can bring themselves to reverse course and give priority to the oath they took to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. This should not be too much to hope for, but it will require uncommon courage in facing up honestly to the major misdeeds appear to have occurred — and letting the chips fall where they may. Besides, it would be the right thing to do.

Nunes is projecting calm confidence that once he and Trey Gowdey (R-Tenn.), chair of the House Oversight Committee, release documentary evidence showing what their investigations have turned up, it will be hard for DOJ and FBI officials to dissimulate.

In Other News …

In the interview with Attkisson, Nunes covered a number of other significant issues:

  • The committee is closing down its investigation into possible collusion between Moscow and the Trump campaign; no evidence of collusion was found.
  • The apparently widespread practice of “unmasking” the identities of Americans under surveillance. On this point, Nunes said, “In the last administration they were unmasking hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of Americans’ names. They were unmasking for what I would say, for lack of a better definition, were for political purposes.”
  • Asked about Schiff’s criticism that Nunes behaved improperly on what he called the “midnight run to the White House,” Nunes responded that the stories were untrue. “Well, most of the time I ignore political nonsense in this town,” he said. “What I will say is that all of those stories were totally fake from the beginning.”

Not since Watergate has there been so high a degree of political tension here in Washington but the stakes for our Republic are even higher this time. Assuming abuse of FISA court procedures is documented and those responsible for playing fast and loose with the required justification for legal warrants are not held to account, the division of powers enshrined in the Constitution will be in peril.

A denouement of some kind can be expected in the coming months. Stay tuned.

Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Savior in inner-city Washington. He was a CIA analyst for 27 years and is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).

(Republished from ConsortiumNews by permission of author or representative)
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: Deep State, Donald Trump, Russia 
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  1. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

  2. Not since Watergate has there been so high a degree of political tension here in Washington but the stakes for our Republic are even higher this time.

    They are not just higher, they are existential in nature. This whole affair makes Watergate look puny. In our case we have a case of a very real state treason.

  3. “Not since Watergate has there been so high a degree of political tension here in Washington”

    It isn’t high enough to suit me. There should be fistfights in the committee rooms. Pubes and dims should be stalking around cussing at each other with black eyes and fat lips. As it is, they are so obviously in league with each other, and allied against the people that it’s sickening.

  4. More details from Jimmy Dore with former NSA William Binney.

    Here is insane warmonger and treasonous idiot Congressmen Schiff. He thinks a few Russian Internet tolls represent all the Russian people and the Russian government, so worldwide nuclear war is the solution. In this recent appearance in front of his Deep State sponsors, he explains that godless Russians like our 2nd Amendment because it allows Americans to kill each other.

  5. lavoisier says: • Website

    Schiff is one treasonous, traitorous SOB.

    Cut from the same cloth as John McCain.

    When the two of them are hauled away in chains I might start believing that we live in a Republic.

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
  6. Svigor says:

    Cut from the same cloth as John McCain.

    Except McCain is a traitor to his people, and Schiff is loyal to his.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  7. @Svigor

    “Schiff is loyal to his.”

    That’s true if you mean his true constituency, his donors. California voters aren’t Schiff’s “people”. His people are the ones who overfund his campaigns so that he can pocket millions as Pelosi has done. Those who hand him money mostly live somewhere outside his district, if any do in fact live where they can vote for him.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  8. Anonymous [AKA "ULP"] says:

    We have to step back and look at the underlying threat to criminal officials. The FISC is a pathetic joke, staffed with pliant worms to negate FISA. The actual law that Nunes is upholding is ICCPR Article 17, supreme law of the land with which domestic law at all levels must conform. Nunes talks about ‘abuse’ that is meaningful only in terms of Article 17, General Comment 16, or HRC Conclusions and Recommendations. Those instruments are world-standard law, law for grown-up developed countries. That body of law puts limits on the state. It’s not just a weapon that the state wields against its population. The ICCPR threatens all the instruments of arbitrary US state coercion: FBI, DoJ, and ultimately, the source of the state’s impunity, CIA.

    Now consider that world-standard law prohibits graver state overreach too. The CIA regime is getting a painful lesson on ICCPR Article 7 and CAT Article 1.

    US courts from the supreme court down accept universal-jurisdiction law because concerted international pressure has reminded the judiciary that the world tried judges at Nuremberg. And now US legislators are asserting binding legal principles that counter CIA’s arbitrary red tape. We have not heard that for a quarter of century, when the Senate ratified the Convention Against Torture.

    CIA put down an Iron Curtain to keep out the standards of the civilized world, but it’s been breached.

  9. AndrewR says:
    @Twodees Partain

    Svigor clearly means the Jewish people.

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