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A week ago, we made note of a May 11 New York Times news article, documenting that all was not going well for the U.S. in Ukraine, and a companion opinion piece hinting that a shift in direction might be in order.

Now on May 19, “THE EDITORIAL BOARD,” the full Magisterium of the Times, has moved from hints to a clarion call for a change in direction in an editorial uninformatively titled, “The War Is Getting Complicated, and America Isn’t Ready.” From atop the Opinion page the Editorial Board has declared that “total victory” over Russia is not possible and that Ukraine will have to negotiate a peace in a way that reflects a “realistic assessment” and the “limits” of U.S. commitment. The Times serves as one the main shapers of public opinion for the Elite and so its pronouncements are not to be taken lightly.

Ukrainians will have to adjust to US “limits” and make sacrifices for newfound U.S. realism

The Times May editorial dictum contains the following key passages:

In March, this board argued that the message from the United States and its allies to Ukrainians and Russians alike must be: No matter how long it takes, Ukraine will be free. …”

“That goal cannot shift, but in the end, it is still not in America’s best interest to plunge into an all-out war with Russia, even if a negotiated peace may require Ukraine to make some hard decisions (emphasis, jw).”

To ensure that there is no ambiguity, the editorial declares that:

A decisive military victory for Ukraine over Russia, in which Ukraine regains all the territory Russia has seized since 2014, is not a realistic goal. … Russia remains too strong…”

To make certain that President Biden and the Ukrainians understand what they should do, the EDITORIAL BOARD goes on to say:

“… Mr. Biden should also make clear to President Volodymyr Zelensky and his people that there is a limit to how far the United States and NATO will go to confront Russia, and limits to the arms, money and political support they can muster. It is imperative that the Ukrainian government’s decisions be based on a realistic assessment of its means and how much more destruction Ukraine can sustain (emphasis, jw).”

As Volodymyr Zelensky reads those words, he must surely begin to sweat. The voice of his masters is telling him that he and Ukraine will have to make some sacrifices for the US to save face. As he contemplates his options, his thoughts must surely run back to February, 2014, and the U.S. backed Maidan coup that culminated in the hasty exit of President Yanukovych from his office, his country and almost from this earth.

Ukraine is a proxy war that is all too dangerous

In the eyes of the Times editorial writers, the war has become a U.S. proxy war against Russia using Ukrainians as cannon fodder – and it is careening out of control:

“The current moment is a messy one in this conflict, which may explain President Biden and his cabinet’s reluctance to put down clear goal posts.”

“The United States and NATO are already deeply involved, militarily and economically. Unrealistic expectations could draw them ever deeper into a costly, drawn-out war..”

“Recent bellicose statements from Washington — President Biden’s assertion that Mr. Putin ‘cannot remain in power,’ Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s comment that Russia must be ‘weakened’ and the pledge by the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, that the United States would support Ukraine ‘until victory is won’ — may be rousing proclamations of support, but they do not bring negotiations any closer.”

While the Times dismisses these statements as “rousing proclamations,” it is all too clear that for the neocons in charge of U.S. foreign policy, the goal has always been a proxy war to bring down Russia. This has not become a proxy war; it has always been a proxy war. The neocons operate by the Wolfowitz Doctrine, enunciated in 1992, soon after the end of Cold War 1.0, by the necoconservative Paul Wolfowitz, then Under Secretary of Defense:

“We endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”

“We must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global power.”

Clearly if Russia is “too strong” to be defeated in Ukraine, it is too strong to be brought down as a superpower.

The Times has shifted Its opinion from March to May. What Has Changed?

After 7 years of slaughter in the Donbas and 3 months of warfare in Southern Ukraine, has the Times editorial board suddenly had a rush of compassion for all the victims of the war and the destruction of Ukraine and changed its opinion? Given the record of the Times over the decades, it would seem that other factors are at work.

First of all, Russia has handled the situation unexpectedly well compared to dire predictions from the West.

President Putin’s support exceeds 80%.

165 of 195 nations, including India and China with 35% of the world’s population, have refused to join sanctions against Russia, leaving the U.S., not Russia, relatively isolated in the world.

The ruble, which Biden said would be “rubble” has not only returned to its pre-February levels but is valued at a 2 year high, today at 59 rubles to the dollar compared to 150 in March.

Russia is expecting a bumper harvest and the world is eager for its wheat and fertilizer, oil and gas all of which provide substantial revenue.

The EU has largely succumbed to Russia’s demand to be paid for gas in rubles. Treasury Secretary Yellin is warning the suicidal Europeans that an embargo of Russian oil will further damage the economies of the West.

Russian forces are making slow but steady progress across southern and eastern Ukraine after winning in Mariupol, the biggest battle of the war so far, and a demoralizing defeat for Ukraine.

In the US inflation, which was already high before the Ukraine crisis, has been driven even higher and reached over 8% with the Fed now scrambling to control it by raising interest rates. Partly as a result of this, the stock market has come close to bear territory. As the war progresses, many have joined Ben Bernanke, former Fed Chair, in predicting a period of high unemployment, high inflation and low growth – the dread stagflation.

Domestically, there are signs of deterioration in support of the war. Most strikingly, 57 House Republicans and 11 Senate Republicans voted against the latest package of weaponry to Ukraine, bundled with considerable pork and hidden bonanzas for the war profiteers. (Strikingly no Democrat, not a single one, not even the most “progressive” voted against pouring fuel on the fire of war raging in Ukraine. But that is another story.)

And while U.S. public opinion remains in favor of U.S. involvement in Ukraine there are signs of slippage. For example, Pew reports that those feeling the U.S. is not doing enough declined from March to May. As more stagflation takes hold with gas and food prices growing and voices like those of Tucker Carlson and Rand Paul pointing out the connection between the inflation and the war, discontent is certain to grow.

Finally, as the war becomes less popular and it takes its toll, an electoral disaster looms ahead in 2022 and 2024 for Joe Biden and the Democratic Party, for which the Times serves as a mouthpiece.

The NYT editorial signals alarm over the insane goal of the neoconservatives.

There is a note of panic in this appeal to find a negotiated solution now. The U.S. and Russia are the world’s major nuclear powers with thousands of nuclear missiles on Launch On Warning, aka Hair Trigger Alert. At moments of high tension, the possibilities of Accidental Nuclear Armageddon are all too real.

President Biden’s ability to stay in command of events is in question. Many people of his age can handle a situation like this, but many cannot and he seems to be in the latter category.

Alarm is warranted and panic is understandable.

The neocons are now in control of the foreign policy of the Biden administration, the Democratic Party and most of the Republican Party. But will the neocons in charge give up and move in a reasonable and peaceful direction as the Times editorial demands? This is a fantasy of the first order. As one commenter observed, the hawks like Nuland, Blinken and Sullivan have no reverse gear; they always double down. They do not serve the interests of humanity nor do they serve the interests of the American people. They are in reality traitors to the U.S. They must be exposed, discredited and pushed aside. Our survival depends on it.

 
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  1. “the full Magisterium of the Times”

    Is this a comedy piece?

  2. meamjojo says:

    And were you to read the reader comments attached to that article, you would note that the vast majority were against the editorial. The scale is very strongly tipped towards helping defend Ukraine at all costs.

  3. meamjojo says:

    Here’s another interesting article from the NYT. ZING!
    ———-
    Putin Rules Russia Like an Asylum
    May 23, 2022, 1:00 a.m. ET
    By Farida Rustamova – Ms. Rustamova is a journalist who has reported widely on Russian politics and society.

    [MORE]

    “Since the 16th century,” wrote the dissident Russian journalist Valeria Novodvorskaya, “we have existed according to the laws of manic depressive psychosis.”

    Published two years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ms. Novodvorskaya’s article captured a particularly chaotic, deranged period of Russian history. But it also makes a long-term argument about Russian society. Since the time of Ivan the Terrible, Ms. Novodvorskaya argued, Russia has suffered from manic depressive psychosis — “flaying” the weak government and “kissing the whip” of the fierce autocrat. The result was a country “hanging between fascism and communism,” and citizens unable to live like normal people.

    The use of psychiatric metaphors was no idle choice. In 1969, Ms. Novodvorskaya, then a 19-year-old student, was detained for distributing anti-Soviet leaflets and sentenced to two years in a psychiatric hospital. She knew firsthand the horrors of the K.G.B.’s system of punitive psychiatry for dissidents. For her, it distilled the logic of Russia’s rulers, tsarist or Soviet. The aim was to produce a lobotomized mass, alternating between passion and passivity — and never in danger of threatening the system.

    Over the past two decades, Vladimir Putin has revived the system of punitive psychiatry, both literally and figuratively. Like the chief doctor of a Soviet penal psychiatric institution, Mr. Putin uses any means at his disposal to retain control and stamp out dissent. In his ward is a mostly poor, depressed society of 144 million people, divided by 11 time zones and four climate zones. In a state of anesthetized apathy and drugged-up distemper, the bulk of Russian society has quietly acceded to Mr. Putin’s rule — and to his brutal war in Ukraine.

    For Mr. Putin, the people in his ward are his property: He can do whatever he wants with them. From time to time, he feeds them — never generously — to ensure his approval ratings remain high. He has a habit of offering handouts, especially in the run-up to elections. One-off targeted financial gifts and benefit payments are a favorite tactic. The aim, of course, is not the material betterment of Russians. It’s to shore up support for the regime and ensure that turnout, in Russia’s strange pseudo-elections, remains tolerably high.
    ….
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/23/opinion/russia-putin-war.html

    • Replies: @nosquat loquat
  4. The war is going very good so far – better than I expected, the wind of change is blowing stronger and these changes are positive. Let’s hope the world will be a better place when it ends.

    For now things are moving in the right direction.

    • Agree: Herald
    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @JWalters
    , @GMC
    , @MaryLS
  5. Notsofast says:
    @meamjojo

    and were you to read the reader comments attached to your comments you would note that the vast majority concider you to be a 50¢ troll, why don’t you get a real job?

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  6. Notsofast says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    agree with you on that and here’s the real measure of the war: the ruble is now at a 7 year high against the dollar and the euro having gained over 40% in value since the start of the conflict. the moronic poles refuse to pay in rubles and have had their gas supply shut off, although they are buying russian gas from other e.u. countries that do pay in rubles. they’re also demanding that norway share their windfall gas profits with them, instructing young poles to write to their norweigian friends to demand their government do so! lol, now that’s the strategic thinking the poles are known for. josep borrell is now complaining of “depleted stockpiles resulting from the military support we provided ukraine”. while these idiots are finally starting to talk about a negotiated settlement they may find that the russians are just fine with the way things are going.

  7. Charles says:

    I appreciate that Ron and others peruse the MSM. I do not have the stomach for its collective boobery. And indeed, the full teaching authority that the NYT believes it possesses, the “Magisterium” as Ron said, is now on the side of a negotiated peace. It would certainly be interesting to know why the change in belief has happened. I do not have any reasonable guesses.

  8. In the US inflation, which was already high before the Ukraine crisis, has been driven even higher and reached over 8%

    A considerable understatement on your part, Mr Unz. It is certainly well in excess of 10%. Otherwise, a well-written and concise account of how things stand.

    There are certainly good, military reasons for the methodical and slow method the Russian military have taken. The encirclement and heavy artillery bombardment of Ukrainian troops obviously reduces Russian military losses. The Ukrainian military seem unable to take any sensible military decisions – either to retreat to more defencible positions, eg the Dniepr river, or surrender when encircled. So this method ensures the destruction of the Ukrainian Army in the East, de facto demilitarisation.

    Even Zelensky is now admitting that 100 Ukrainian soldiers are dying each day. Many other sources are saying it is much higher. When the remnants of Ukraine’s Donbas Army finally surrender, there are likely to be tens of thousands of dead and injured Ukrainian soldiers. There is no military benefit in any of this. Some form of capitulation or armistice is necessary NOW. Not only is the West fighting Russia down to the last Ukrainian, but so is the Ukrainian Government and General Staff.

    [MORE]

    There are also rational economic reasons why a slow war would be beneficial for Russia, but few pundits realise or mention them. If Russia had used overwhelming force and pushed Ukraine into an armistice after a few weeks, the likelihood would be that, after a few months, we would be back at the status quo ante. The EU would be paying for Russian oil, gas and other commodities in Euros, deposited in EU banks. The USD would still be the unchallenged World Reserve Currency. No doubt, the West would be rearming Ukraine and telling it to ignore the terms of the Armistice. Maybe, a Ukrainian counterattack would be planned for next year. This scenario would plainly be detrimental for Russia.

    Letting the war run for months lets the West play its sanctions to the maximum. This allows the Russian Government to justify a policy of total retaliation to its public. Aready, Russia has stopped supplies of gas to Poland, Bulgaria and Finland. It has also shut down the Yamal pipeline ( 25% of Russian gas exports to the EU ). There has been surging energy and food prices as a result of this and the sanctions. I fully expect that Russia will cut of most or all of the remainder later this summer.

    There are already rumblings in Europe, which will get worse as more and more gas and oil is cut off. Governments will undoubtedly fall all over Europe and be replaced by ones willing to drop sanctions and support for Ukraine, and negotiate with Russia over energy. NATO and the EU Apparatus will be seriously diminished as a result.

    As Russia demands payment for all its commodities in Rubles or precious metals, the USD’s status as World Reserve Currency will rapidly come to an end. America, NATO or the EU will be in any position to cause Russia serious trouble again.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @meamjojo
  9. “No matter how long it takes, Ukraine will be free. That goal cannot shift, but …”

    Well, as Bill Clinton might say, it all depends on what the word “Ukraine” means. Zelensky can rule over a barren wasteland between prosperous Russian provinces to the East and New Polandia to the West. Anti-Pole Neo-nazis will use it as a base, and it will be constantly bombarded by both Poland and Russia as “terrorist homeland.”

    Remember, the US spent decades insisting that Taiwan was the “real” China.

    • LOL: JWalters
  10. Notsofast says:
    @Notsofast

    slight correction: ruble at a 7 year high against euro today and 4 year high against the dollar on friday.

    • Replies: @Decoy
  11. Chris Moore says: • Website

    The neocons are now in control of the foreign policy of the Biden administration, the Democratic Party and most of the Republican Party. But will the neocons in charge give up and move in a reasonable and peaceful direction as the Times editorial demands? This is a fantasy of the first order. As one commenter observed, the hawks like Nuland, Blinken and Sullivan have no reverse gear; they always double down. They do not serve the interests of humanity nor do they serve the interests of the American people. They are in reality traitors to the U.S. They must be exposed, discredited and pushed aside. Our survival depends on it.

    Why is the neocon/kosher globalist New York Times now pretending to be opposed to the war, when they were previously among its greatest cheerleaders, propagandists, and inciters?

    Because Putin and Russia basically have it won, and because ((Zelensky)), Ukraine, the neocons and the shitlib establishment have lost another war (right on the heels of their previous official loss of the “War on Terror” against “Islamofascism,” with the disastrous pull out of Afghanistan.)

    Is the Joe “I am a Zionist” Biden administration and the ((Jews)) that pull its strings going to walk back their commitment to Ukraine now that it’s pretty much over? They’ll probably milk it for as much as they can for the Military-Industrial-Propaganda Complex (including the NY Times) but yeah, ultimately they likely will. And they’ll do so because dollar global reserve status is unraveling a lot quicker than most of the establishment ever imagined, and has turned into a runaway train.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/five-warning-signs-end-dollar-hegemony-near-heres-what-happens-next

    The kikes always assumed they had another 50 years or so before they had to pack up their carpetbags and steal out for Israel. Now it’s looking like they have maybe 5 years — if they’re lucky.

    Good job, ((Jew)) lovers. You’ve ruined and squandered the Unipolar catbird seat and sole superpower status in record time. Your “chosen-elec” delusions of grandeur were just that — mentally ill delusions built on Fed funny money that created the illusion of invincibility, and fueled by your lover affair with ((Jews)).

    A nation wise to the ((Jews)) would have never fallen so fast. A nation of ((Jew)) stooges fell like a house of cards.

  12. Notsofast says:
    @Verymuchalive

    inflation rate officially 8.3% but this excludes gas and food so the real figure is probably in the high teens as gas has increased 48% ytd and food prices are at all time highs. oh and by the way ron is no longer the author of this article, it’s now john v. walsh, amazing how fast things change these days, i just can’t keep up with it.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  13. meamjojo says:
    @Notsofast

    Most comments on UNZ aren’t worth reading for anything but a laugh.

    You guys might want to be careful. UNZ could be an FBI/CIA honeypot and all your IP addresses and Putin supporting comments have been trapped for future use.

  14. meamjojo says:
    @Verymuchalive

    “Even Zelensky is now admitting that 100 Ukrainian soldiers are dying each day. Many other sources are saying it is much higher. When the remnants of Ukraine’s Donbas Army finally surrender, there are likely to be tens of thousands of dead and injured Ukrainian soldiers.”

    Ha! Russian abandons their dead. They fear bringing them home and having their people face the reality of so many dead in what was supposed to be a “special operation” of overwhelming force that lasted but a few days..
    ———
    TRAIN OF THE DEAD
    Corpses of dead Russian troops piling up abandoned in refrigerated trains as Putin set to lose 30,000 men in Ukraine

    May 22 2022

    THE bodies of dead Russian soldiers have been piling up on refrigerated trains, a video shows.

    The claim, made by Ukraine in a video released Friday, comes after reports Vladimir Putin has lost nearly 30,000 of his troops in battle.

    Ukraine said they are preserving the bodies to release them to mothers and wives

    The footage, shared by Ukraine’s railway chief Alexander Kamyshin, describes how Ukraine preserves the bodies of the fatalities.

    The clip states that Ukraine preserves the bodies “according to humanitarian law, to release them to mothers and wives.”

    It adds: “Russia hides real losses from families. To avoid panic and to avoid payment of compensations.”

    It adds that the railway is ready to deliver “cargo 200” to Russia- a Soviet military code term referring to war casualties.

    The video ends: “Your ‘cargo of 200’ is waiting on demand”.

    Meanwhile, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Putin’s bloody war has cost the lives of almost 30,000 soldiers.

    Ukraine’s official statistics suggest that the Russian President has also lost over 1,200 tanks, 204 planes and 13 boats.
    ….
    https://www.the-sun.com/news/5397372/corpses-dead-russian-troops-piling-refrigerated-trains/

    • Replies: @dave wightman
  15. meamjojo says:

    This article contains some writing about a possible negotiated settlement but if the Ukrainians keep destroying Russian armaments like they are, then it might be Putin who has to beg for peace.
    ———–
    Putin humiliated as Russian forces lose 184 military vehicles in Donbas within ONE WEEK
    Mon, May 23, 2022

    The Kyiv Independent shared the update on Twitter as Russian airstrikes continue to target the Donbas region.

    According to the local media, 43 Russian tanks were among the significant losses this week.

    They wrote: “Armed Forces: Russia loses 184 military vehicles in Donbas within a week.

    “The list includes, among others, one anti-aircraft missile system, 43 tanks, 20 artillery systems, and 79 armoured fighting vehicles. Russia has also lost three aircraft.”

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1614363/putin-russia-ukraine-war-donbas-invasion-ont

  16. @Notsofast

    Thanks for your information about how official US inflation rates are calculated. It’s certainly a scam to hide the real rate of inflation.

    The change of authorship reminds me of a case earlier this year at UR when authorship of an article quickly changed from some guy I’d never heard of to regular UR columnist Guillaume Durocher. Sometimes authorship can be as changeable as the US rate of inflation !

  17. neutral says:

    No negotiations until that filth Zelensky is dead. Not only must he die because of his lunacy and warmongering, but he must be made into a symbol for all those deranged virtue signallers that their entire world view is a twisted farce that needs to be slapped back to reality.

  18. @Charles

    It would certainly be interesting to know why the change in belief has happened. I do not have any reasonable guesses.

    When you look at the broader picture (= reality) the Editorial Board is correct when stating that it might be time to simply stop the losses (not least because to win this thing – as President Biden might still hope for – is becoming less and less likely every single day the fighting goes on).

    Btw. – extra thanks to Ron Unz for republishing this ver insightful article of John von Walsh!

  19. @Notsofast

    The Poles are amazing.

    There is another dispute I am having with someone, about the origins of various peoples, and it happens that the Poles are the closest relatives of the Russians – literally brothers, biologically speaking.

    Where does all this hatred come from, the war ended ages ago. This is pointless.

    Now Lavrov has said, that Russia will stop being dependent on anything from the West, and that if the West wants to offer something in terms of resuming relations, then Russia will consider “whether we need it or not.” He said Russia will rely only on itself and on those countries that “do not dance to someone else’s tune.” And also that Russia’s economic ties with China will now grow even faster.

    Now there is no turning back.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Odyssey
  20. Rahan says:
    @meamjojo

    Back in the day during the Iran-Iraq war some observers kidded that if one takes their figures at face value about how much the enemy has lost, it’ll turn out there’s a battle of Kursk every week there.

    We’ll likely start to get some more or less real data about the Ukraine from autumn onward. And for real — likely 2-3 years from now, barring a miracle.

    Poland is incrementally introducing a version of the Belarus-Russia merged state thing with the Ukraine under the radar, invisible in the fog of war.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-poland-agree-joint-customs-control-ease-movement-people-goods-2022-05-23/
    Now THIS could be a game changer and allow Poland to, among other things, finally act out its fantasy of making war on Russia, but on somebody else’s territory and without triggering a nuclear war with NATO.

    • Agree: Spanky
    • Replies: @Miro23
  21. Notsofast says:
    @meamjojo

    5 more posts and you’ll have enough for a cup of starbucks coffee, 6 more if you want a grande. you really should get a real job though, your mom wants her basement back so she can install a proper sex dungeon.

  22. @meamjojo

    At all costs? what planet do you live on? Jew World? Sounds like it! Most of us real Americans want Putin to Kick Ass!

    • Agree: ProfessorChops
    • Replies: @Grasshopper Kaplan
  23. @meamjojo

    Then you will be very surprised when Ukraine throws in the towel and admits defeat in the next few months! Right now the little crook Zelensky is extorting western countries for 5 billion a month at Davos for his Cayman bank account. This little creep is milking his ass-kicking for all he can get!

  24. Prove to me that there is any popular support for the Ukraine war in the US.

    Hint: You cant, you fucking liars.

    Always a poison pill in these articles, with some casual lies and propagada.

  25. Dollar versus ruble might be 99.9% of what those extremely near sighted people who drive the NYTimes can see.

    It is definitely the most salient datum for me, a useless eater 10 or so time zones away from the action.

  26. bert33 says:

    Let’s just hope no one pops a paper bag behind sleepy joe…and let europe fight their own damn wars.

  27. peterAUS says:

    Soothing for resident Putintards. Delusional too.

    The flow of assistance to Ukraine is increasing, both in quantity and quality.

    That’s all what matters.

    • Troll: Notsofast
    • Replies: @David Homer
  28. Anymike says:
    @meamjojo

    Earth to JoJo: We already know everything goes into a permanent record. We already know the big eye sees all and the big ear hears everything. The world doesn’t need you.

  29. fran says:
    @meamjojo

    The fact that you’re having to resort to British tabloids in spite of the entire western media apparatus playing the role of pro-Ukraine propagandists paints a bleak picture for Zelensky & co, to the point of actual pity. The number of Ukrainian casualties is staggering and will shock people if/when the disinformation fog finally lifts. Between 500-1000 KIA every day for weeks now, 3x as many wounded, over 8,000 POWs in Russian custody already, 100-200 killed each night from cruise missile strikes alone, and the pace is only accelerating with each passing day. The number of KIA will hit 100,000 within weeks at this rate. Zelensky, the neocons and Soros shills who have no qualms with sacrificing every last Ukrainian for their own selfish & perverted aims are literal demons who need to be hanged.

    • Replies: @poupon marx
  30. Anymike says:
    @Ralph B. Seymour

    The WOG regime is preparing a segment of the population for a shift in policy, i.e. and viz. the people who worship at the church of the New York Times on Sunday morning. You know, the ones who stay home with their coffee, orange juice, and smeared bagels and read the Sunday paper.

    In fact, the WOG regime is hoping to make it look like a shift in opinion which they are fomenting is forcing the change in policy on them. They want plausible non-accountability.

    I just had a great idea on the spot. We tell Ukraine, we’ll give you another $100 billion in military aid (heck, that’s only $2500 per living Ukrainian, think of it as a stimulus payment) and when that’s gone, you have to give up.

  31. @Charles

    I skimmed, but didn’t read the crappy NYT editorial. Simply cannot stand either it or the Warmongering Post.

    A brief explanation which supplements the remarks by the author here can be found at another site I no long have bookmarked.

    New York Times indicates divisions over the course of NATO-Russia war
    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/05/21/nyti-m21.html

    Speculating now, but this may boil down to the entire Neocon Project being endanged by the consequences of the spectacular way the current project has backfired.

    The NYT may simply be wanting to limit the damage to that Project, for they want to continue the good work for the Apartheid state – and the very profitable Empire.

    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
  32. Miro23 says:

    There is a note of panic in this appeal to find a negotiated solution now.

    It looks like Putin’s pre-emptive strike was a big surprise. Also they have a better information on the military situation on the ground – the propaganda is just for public consumption.

    So probably the NYT Editorial Board (neo-cons) now know that the Ukrainian military is starting to collapse and want to freeze the situation and get out of a potential up and coming PR disaster.

  33. Miro23 says:
    @Rahan

    Now THIS could be a game changer and allow Poland to, among other things, finally act out its fantasy of making war on Russia, but on somebody else’s territory and without triggering a nuclear war with NATO.

    I know that Poles are great nationalists – but Ukraine is about to descend into chaos. Like flying into Afghanistan while everyone else is desperately getting out.

  34. “The war is getting complicated, America isn’t ready” should be replaced by “the war is getting complicated and America is losing (yet again)”. John Walsh is right, Nuland et al have no reverse gear but rather tend to double down. 2014 didn’t succeed, and now they tried again, and it still didn’t work. This was not because the US confiscation apparatus wasn’t ready, but because of the poor quality of the politicians planning the schemes and the backfiring sanctions. The US used to have such seasoned imperialists, nowadays it’s more hot air than substance. Such underestimation of Russia’s autonomy and strength and the poor appraisal of the political force fields outside the western snowglobe is quite amazing for a world power wanting to remain being the top dog. Gonzalo Lira sums up the current status in his usual spot-on and highly entertaining way: https://youtu.be/ZuwpHZ0VdTU
    Video Link

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  35. This morning Zaporozhye was hit with 5 missiles. They struck an industrial area in the north of the city but it shook my apartment which is 15 kilometres away. Whatever they targeted, they must have hit as heavy black smoke filled the sky.
    Seems like the Russians are getting ready to move west.

    • Thanks: GMC, nokangaroos, Levtraro, Spanky
    • Replies: @nsa
  36. @dave wightman

    That’s right

    I liked the read, best of unz…

    Say, what motive does Putin and
    Russia we demonized to hell and back
    Have to negotiate with the liar West?

    Why would they wish to speak to America?

    They can play us like a fiddle and drag it out until, perhaps, the US of Arrogance became in praxis democratic.

    Or Russia can just blow us all up if we keep acting like shitheels as far as our diapered leaders go

    They have been very restrained thus far

    Value is of life in Russia
    Only money has value in u s of Arrogance

  37. frankie p says:
    @neutral

    Kolomoisky must die, be hunted down for his crimes. He is the Wizard of Oz (not the Australian Jew idiot posting on the UR), the dickless fool behind the curtains, manipulating with his ill-gotten wealth. Consider the message it would send to evil, Jewish oligarchs to see Kolomoisky assassinated, anonymously.

    • Agree: dimples, TheTrumanShow
  38. Jewmerica & hyena can now do what it wants in Jewkraine. It will no longer be decisive. Russia alone has decided the future of Ukraine. Ukraine has a golden future without Ukraine. Russia made all the decisions before it responded to the Jewkrainian attack against Russians with a counter attack on 24th of Feb.
    Jewkraine will not return to being “Ukraine”. Even the name Ukraine will be cleaned out like the evil rabbis and their priests & politicians. Pooland will not get an inch of land. Pooland will get what it deserves. Jewmerica and Jeweurope will get what they have brought into Russian lands: civil war. It is overdue.

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
  39. Avery says:

    Clearly NYT, the putrid propaganda organ for the Globalist Reptilians, is worried that Russia will go all the way to Transnistria, and completely cut off rump Ukraine from the sea.

    They are desperate to save whatever they can from “their” UkroNazi-land to be able to harass and threaten Russia for centuries.

    The NYT Reptilians couldn’t care less about the lives of Christians, particularly Slavic peoples. The only reason they are calling for peace negotiations now is to try to save whatever they can from their Ukraine Project.

    • Agree: Buck Ransom
  40. Wielgus says:
    @Charles

    The Russians are doing better on the ground than the Western MSM likes to admit, but I think economics and energy are the key reason. I also really do not see them wanting to risk Armageddon for Kiev and the NYT just expresses this.

    • Replies: @PJ London
    , @gabon 45
  41. @dave wightman

    What is your evidence for your libels of Zelinsky?

    • LOL: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Dave Wightman
  42. Wielgus says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    The languages are close though not to the point of mutual intelligibility, many cultural points are similar, the fact that both belong to different branches of Christianity is the biggest difference, however.
    Croats and Serbs would be virtually the same people but for the one being Roman Catholic and the other Orthodox. Religion – the great divider.

  43. JWalters says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Completely agree. Russia is fundamentally at war with the Talmud banking mafia that has stealthily taken over all the Western banking, press, and politicians. Their bungled attack on Russia, with its companion campaign of absurdly overdone propaganda, is an opportune moment for patriots in all the Western countries to strike at these parasites (aka “neocons”) and root them out. As John Walsh so accurately states, “Our survival depends on it.”.

    Another sign of the times – more Americans would rather have Biden resign than Putin. I recommend Biden consult with Putin on how to run an economy. Putin’s theory of economics is based on real resources, rather than financial scams. Biden’s history in college was one of plagarism. Putin has a PhD in economics. A summary of his PhD thesis is here.
    Mineral and Raw Materials Resources
    and the Development Strategy for the Russian Economy

    https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/08/putins-thesis-raw-text/212739/

    An excellent discussion at The Duran very related to this article is here.
    Biden, NATO, Russia, Ukraine, Somalia and the Globalists w/Robert Barnes
    https://rumble.com/v15x6kp-biden-nato-russia-ukraine-somalia-and-the-globalists-wrobert-barnes-live.html

    • Thanks: Spanky, Here Be Dragon
    • Replies: @JM
    , @Kolya Krassotkin
  44. JWalters says:
    @Notsofast

    I’m pretty sure he’s paid more than 50 cents. He’s obviously a professional assigned to the Unz Review. Likely working out of Tel Aviv or NYC.

    • LOL: JM
    • Replies: @fran
  45. JWalters says:
    @Charles

    My estimate is that their Talmud mafia bosses told them to write this editorial. They saw their plans for regime change and resource grab in Russia were failing, their credibility was unraveling, and there was a danger of them losing control of their vassal countries altogether.

    In this view, Zelensky has no tough decisions to make either. He too just does what he’s told.

    War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  46. IronForge says:

    NYT are now just a MSM Propaganda Rag that shall be Ignored.

    Russian-Speaking Regions will determine for themselves how they wish to Proceed.

    The Morons who tried to enact the Proxy War and hoped to induce a Financial Collapse instead initiated a Self-Destructive Path of the Hegemony’s Economic Prospects, Integrity of Currencies, and Fiduciary Trust amongst Sovereign States.

  47. @Notsofast

    He has a real job: hasbara troll paid by US taxpayers’ money. I mean, you don’t expect him to do real work, do you?

  48. Well, the NY Slime proposes to move the goalposts. The things is, the Russians have already moved their goalposts and I don’t see them accepting any kind of settlement before liberating Kharkov and Odessa. They’d be foolish if they did, b/c to me that would mean accepting to lose territory, not liberation.
    The most interesting part of that editorial isn’t what they recommend, it is the implicit admission that Ukraine as a nominally sovereign nation never really had a say. It is a US proxy war against Russia, but Ukrainians, whose country has been overtaken by retarded thugs thanks to the US, are doing the dying and Ukrainians will have to endure the humiliation of defeat and capitulation.
    I can never stress enough how much disgust the cabal inspires me.

  49. Gangrene says:

    I wonder why it’s taken so long for Henry Kissinger to come to the aid of Russia’s greatest ally in the Middle East. They must have been begging him to do something as soon as the invasion flopped. If Bolshevik Russia goes under, then they’ll really be in a tough spot!

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  50. Ghali says:

    “… the hawks like Nuland, Blinken and Sullivan have no reverse gear; they always double down. They do not serve the interests of humanity nor do they serve the interests of the American people. They are in reality traitors to the U.S. They must be exposed, discredited and pushed aside. Our survival depends on it”. Those are American Zionist Jews. Shame on you Americans.

  51. GMC says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    The Winds of Change this time , won’t be following the Moskva down to Gorky Park like the old Scorpion Song goes, but in Central Park and other Western parks thruout the USA and Europa. Those ” winds of change” will be a cold cold wind that blows into the face of time – memories of the failing Western Times.

  52. Slonym says:

    Behind the NYT statement and Kissinger’s statement one can guess the confusion of the neocons. Ukraine was winning the war and suddenly we have to give up before it’s too late.

    And what if Putin doesn’t want to negotiate, then what? And he won’t. Why would he want to give up his victory? Putin will wage an unhurried war by taking over Ukraine completely. While the west will fall deeper and deeper into economic and political crisis.

  53. JM says:
    @Ralph B. Seymour

    “the full Magisterium of the Times”

    Is this a comedy piece?

    Is it irony? You know…equating the Lugenpresse with the Vatican…

  54. JM says:
    @JWalters

    Another sign of the times – more Americans would rather have Biden resign than Putin. I recommend Biden consult with Putin on how to run an economy. Putin’s theory of economics is based on real resources, rather than financial scams. Biden’s history in college was one of plagarism. Putin has a PhD in economics. A summary of his PhD thesis is here.
    Mineral and Raw Materials Resources
    and the Development Strategy for the Russian Economy
    https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2008/08/putins-thesis-raw-text/212739/

    Some useful thought and information here. Thanks.

    • Thanks: JWalters
  55. @GMC

    If the AMOC, that is showing signs of rapid weakening, falls off its perch, it will be VERY cold times in Europe, indeed. Still, they’ll have denialist hot air to keep them warm.

    • Agree: GMC
    • LOL: Bro43rd
  56. Odyssey says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    This hatred comes from Catholicism, which has eaten Polish brains. Poles had very negative role in the past by terrorizing together with Germans neighbouring Slavic tribes to forcefully convert to Christianity. The key strategy of Vatican is penetration to the East and they use Poles and Croats to do dirty jobs and, if needed, to conduct genocides on Slavic people. For hundreds of years Jesuits were working in Romania to create new nation with an artificial language. The goal was to separate Serbs from Russia. About 160 K Romanians, who are also genetically Slavics (i.e. Serbs) with a fake Roman origin which was a part of Jesuits’ ‘East Romans’ project, died under Stalingrad. Poles asked Nato to get nuclear bombs, what means that they would be using them against Russians considering that such bombs already exist just from other side of the river Odra. Catholicism made them the dumbest among Slavics and the first candidate to be annihilated in the potential nuclear exchange. I asserted that Vatican is a mafia style organisation which mission is to conquer and enslave new territories and to rule the world, they raised a man above the God and made him infallible. A reaction of an old man here, probably one offended Catholic, was to put a Jewish label on me.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
    , @Fox
  57. Generally, a conflict ends when one of the belligerents has taken more damage than acceptable.
    However, the lunatic elites of the West do not consider any damage to their own nations as inacceptable; in fact, it appears that to them the losses in lives and money are additional benefits. Whether this is just due to a psychopathic will to (self-)destruction, or whether they are paid off to leave the West destitute and bereft of any military strength so it is a pushover for the Great Replacement and the scheduled Afro-Islamic Age, it is pretty much like the notorious energy creatures in old SF movies that get stronger with every blow dealt.
    How can we get rid of the scum before they can get rid of us?

    • Agree: David Homer
    • Thanks: Fox
  58. @Gangrene

    Henry Kissinger – for the second time in the last two weeks (!) asked Ukraine/ the US to make concessions to Russia and end this war. That’s how I undertsand him. Now – this could be wrong. But if it’s right, your conclusion would not fit this picture:

    If Bolshevik Russia goes under, then they’ll really be in a tough spot!

    Maybe you could explain what you mean by that sentence? Why woudl it be a mishap (for Israel not least) if Russia would go under?

  59. Anonymous[357] • Disclaimer says:

    “We endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”

    “We must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global power.”

    I’m reminded of an old Marvel comic’s panel in which Dr. Doom, having stolen the Silver Surfer’s flying surfboard, says “Nothing can stop me now!”.

    It was a signature line. Once a Marvel author used that line, you knew that he’d be stopped.

    The mark of a dominant power is not crushing power, it is that everybody else wants to emulate it. When they realize they can’t, the power is no longer dominant.

  60. It becomes clearer every day that the impending Death of the West is due to the malevolence of Talmudists; this can not any longer be denied by any serious analyst, and it is something that our fathers knew of old.

    So then why do people suicidally follow them, how/why they are able to recruit non-Jews to kill their own people for them, or even at this late stage there are people sitting on the fence and perhaps perusing Jew outlets like the tv and NYT to get “information”.

    As a UR commenter recently said that while there are individual Jews of outstanding merit in this debate, there is zero comment from the huge number of Jewish organisations globally, giving the impression that Jews collectively are quite OK with death/destruction world-wide as long as no Jews are involved except as profiteers.
    “Wars are the Jews’ Harvest”.

    Ref Ukr, it is now the “governments” of the Collective West that are globally isolated, their people face an impossible future ref inflation, shortages brought by Talmudist policy. It becomes obvious that it’s just a matter of time before blame is laid at the judeo-masonic door. It is “The Beginning of Sorrows” for the Sanhedrin.
    Very richly deserved.

    • Replies: @JWalters
  61. Odyssey says:
    @Wielgus

    All Slavic people can understand each other, more or less. It is understandable considering that their languages have the same root in the ancient ‘srb’ language, which Aryans carried to India where became Sanskrit. From this ‘srb’ language and ethnicity, firstly evolved Russians in the 8th c.AC, other Slavics much later. The most of Croats, who are a fairly recent construct, are catholicized Serbs (the rest are some remnants of Avars), so as Bosnian muslims, who are 100% Islamised Serbs, too. As all converts, they strongly hate their Serbian roots. It is the same case with other converted Serbs, for e.g. Martin Luther in Germany was known as a strong serbophobe and a Slavic hater…

    Implicitly, I understand that you cannot provide any evidence of so-called Slavic (i.e. Serbian) migration to Balkan, i.e. Serbs are indigenous people there. I am not surprised with this but, don’t worry, this case of red in my cellar will not remain unconsumed. In addition, I already provided a dozen of ancient Serbian words which were later adopted in English and other languages for your linguistic studies.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Slav
  62. fran says:
    @JWalters

    The irony here is that there’s a high likelihood he’s based in Ukraine, as that’s where most of these grayhat English-language menial tech jobs are outsourced to. The Ukraine and the Phillippines are where 75% of all paid shills & human censors are located, working on everything from Facebook censorship to moderating reddit to spamming twitter to manually curating Google search results & replying to reinstatement requests, usually working directly for these companies full-time but through an unaffiliated shell company. It’s also where shady marketing/PR companies outsource project-based work like shilling/shaping opinion on independent news sites like Unz.

    • Replies: @Dave Wightman
    , @JWalters
  63. Karl1906 says:

    Ah, Democrat Pravda from NY announces the change in the party line. Oceania and Eurasia will soon be friends again. And Eastasia has always been the enemy.

  64. Hitch says:

    This is the same Jew York Times that sent Walter Duranty to cover up the Holodomor. Nothing that they write can be considered anything other than misinformation or at least misdirection.

    The Rothschild plenipotentiary Henry Kissinger recently voiced something similar at WEF in Davos when he said that Ukraine must prepare to accept a loss of territory.

    Recently the global Jewish media oligopoly announced that Denmark is shipping Harpoon anti-ship missiles to “Sink the Russian Navy” in the Black sea. Of course Denmark would be perfectly aware that this would bring a naval war to the Baltic sea, and that her bridge to Sweden would be a very juicy target. Clearly, Denmark did not reach this decision on her own, and clearly like all the other Nato puppet states, Denmark has no agency and is taking actions based on diktats coming from the WEF deep state.

    The Jewish media monopoly has also announced that Poland now has troops stationed in Ukraine and that they are opening the border between Ukraine and Poland and that Polish Judges will be allowed to operate in Ukraine.

    As part of the Azovstal surrender a group of officers were allowed to surrender unphotographed and to leave the bunkers in armored vehicles.

    Meanwhile, a Russian soldier has been sentenced to a lifetime in prison for “war crimes” by a Ukrainian “court”. Likely the next prosecutions will be performed with the participation of Polish Judges to try to add a veneer of legitimacy to a kangaroo trial. Call it Nuremberg 2.0.

    Russia is also getting ready to set up tribunals to charge Ukrainian Nazi-larpers and possibly Nato officers with war crimes.

    Just as with the NYT and Kissinger announcements, the Harpoon escalation, the release of likely Nato officers from Azovstal, and both sides preparing “war crimes” trials, this is all evidence that there is something big going on behind the scenes.

    To me it looks like Russia has managed to put together a strong case for war crimes and crimes against humanity by Nato, the US MIC and Ukraine. This likely centers around Bio-warfare. Macron was desperately negotiating with Putin as Azovstal was falling, and Ukraine has admitted that it made several unsuccessful attempts at rescue operations for certain unnamed persons of interest from Avostal, and that they lost dozens of helicopters and even more of their best special operations soldiers.

    So here is my guess: Russia has the goods and the NYT and Kissinger “negotiated peace” gambits are part of an attempt by Nato to prevent Russia from making public the revelations they discovered in the bowels of Azovstal and the bio-warfare laboratories they captured at the beginning of this invasion.

    If Russia is willing to stay mum about US/Nato/Ukrainian crime against humanity then perhaps some kind of peace deal might be on offer. Of course this most likely would just be an attempt to buy some time, like the “cease fire” offers/demands made by various deep state puppets.

    • Thanks: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Spanky
    , @Johnny Rico
  65. Anon[271] • Disclaimer says:

    The editorial is a feint. They must need the Russians to ease up so a weapon can be snuck into Ukraine for use as a false flag or directly against Russia. Breaking up Russia in about 10 different Republics has always been the empire’s goal. They have not changed their minds, I assure you.

    Full demilitirization of Ukraine and Zelensky being removed from power and prosecuted for war crimes should be the Russian goal.

  66. NATO should threatening Russia with nuclear war if the Russian Army does not leave Ukraine with 48 hours. If Putin can threatening the world with nuclear war so can NATO. I much rather die than have to live like a slave under a Russian diktator. Russia has been a big problem for its neighbors the last 300 years, time stop Russias war machine for ever.

    • LOL: Fred777
    • Troll: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @Fred777
  67. @JWalters

    Over the last year I have become a fan of The Duran. That they call out the neocons so fearlessly is one of the best things about them.

    The neocons need to be exposed: who they are; where they come from; their callousness; how the prospect of multitudes dying leaves them breathlessly panting with excitement.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @JWalters
  68. Wielgus says:
    @Odyssey

    Implicitly, I understand that you cannot provide any evidence of so-called Slavic (i.e. Serbian) migration to Balkan, i.e. Serbs are indigenous people there.

    You seem obsessed with the subject. Drink as much red as you like. But remember that cirrhosis is a thing.

    Eventually, large numbers of people in the Balkans started speaking Slavic languages. When this happened is not the kind of thing that keeps me awake at night and you shouldn’t lose any sleep over it either.

  69. lavoisier says:
    @Charles

    It would certainly be interesting to know why the change in belief has happened. I do not have any reasonable guesses.

    Because (((their))) Ukrainian folly is leading to an economic collapse in the United States and Europe. And at some level (((they))) know that their assess are on the line, that a growing minority of the idiot American citizenry is finally starting to connect the dots–Jewish supremacist control of the USA is bad for Americans and leading all of us down a very dangerous and destructive path.

    And perhaps at some level (((they))) realize that a nuclear war may not actually be good for (((them))) either.

    (((Their))) cover is being blown as things continue to go from bad to worse as it inevitably does when they gain control.

    Very sad. Their tribal instincts screw everyone over–including themselves.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  70. @Wizard of Oz

    Where is your evidence? What are you? A retard? Have you been living under a pumpkin on your yellow brick road? You didn’t see Zelensky just yesterday ask the Davos billionaires for 5 billkion a week after biden has already givien him 80 billion? And you cannot even spell the guy’s name! It is Z-E-L-E-N-S-K-Y.

    Now here is his offshore bank account with over a billion:

    Video Link

    And here is one of his million dollar properties- there are others (one is in Miami):

    https://eprimefeed.com/latest-news/zelenskys-villa-in-italy-is-not-for-ukrainian-refugees/55246/

    And did you not see that the European CDC just announced that Monkeypox was leaked from a biolab in Ukraine? They are the Bad Guys! Now go back behind your curtain and take a seat, adults are conversing here..

  71. If neo-cons are incapable of going into reverse gear, then their only option will be a nuclear one. Either use of tactical nuclear weapons against Russian troops in Ukraine (under cover of some fabricated incident) or all out nuclear war, perhaps starting with attacks on Russian military bases–naval, air, ground forces–in Russia itself, perhaps using missiles launched from US subs in Baltic or Arctic. I would assume Russians have given all of this much thought and have informed Washington and Tel Aviv which cities in US and Israel would be the first to go.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
  72. @fran

    You are aware that unz is run by Deep State operators and is clickbait for people who are to be heavily and constantly monitored? That’s correct. This site is where intell agancies like FBI, Mossad, NSA, DHS, DIA, ADL, SPLC, and others all collect and ccolate data on “jew and black haters” (and Anti-War rhetoric). This is an active Hate Watch site, and was created specifically for this purpose with funding from the US government. Every time you see the Hollywood shows about our heroic FBI or DHS or CIA has heard some ‘chatter’, well this is how they get that ‘chatter’! Now you know. The Daily Stormer should have been your tipoff. There used to be a StormFront website that served the very same purpose. You see once a scenario makes it to the playbook, it stays there to be used over and over. Oh, and the Holocaust is a Jew Hoax. There, that ought to get me some attention!

    • Troll: JWalters
  73. @Back to the Farm

    Things they are not telling you are: Zelensky has not been in the Ukraine for months, he is a coward hiding out in Poland, traveling Europe by private jet to solicit money from suckers. Also Ukraine is very quickly going to run out of cannon fodder, meaning there will soon be no one to fight for him. He is hoping UN or NATO peacekeepers will take over before his last soldier quits and becomes a refugee, but that is not likely! What is more likely is that the cavalry will come late, if at all.

    • Replies: @Decoy
  74. PJ London says:
    @Wielgus

    Russia never wanted to enter Ukraine in the first place, but were left no alternative.
    They badly miscalculated the level of support for Russia and the level of control that the Ukrainian army and Azov politicians had over the people of Ukraine. Thousands of people who were not anti-Russian but anti Zelensky were and are being slaughtered (oh and by the way we are going to steal everything you own.)
    4-5 million people just wanted to leave, they had wanted to leave for years but the EU kept them out, now they could just up and go and be welcomed as victims. To be ‘victims’ you have to play up the OMG I am so scared nonsense.
    Ukraine mined the seas around Odessa to stop the Russians coming in, but have now found that it stops the export of all the grain and goods that Ukraine has. Destroying their economy more than the war did. Of course Russia is going to take Odessa, the whole coast and link up with Transnistria. Linking up with Hungarian border and setting up possibly a joint control over the whole border up to Poland. This they will have to do (a new Iron Curtain) to stop the US/Nato maintaining an insurgency war against the new regime. They may decide after a short while that the Polish border has to be ‘curtained’ off as well.
    The Russians could have turned Kyiv into another Dresden or Fallujah but want to have good relations with whatever is left of Ukraine when the dust settles. They will not need to attack Kyiv, once the Ukrainian army in the east is defeated, there won’t be enough left to mount a defence of the west and the old Ukrainian regime will turn to Guerrilla/insurgency warfare.
    The biggest problem are the loudmouths in the UK and USA-NATO that have been telling how brave and clever they are. They will have to climb down and admit defeat. I don’t know how they will handle it. What will Johnson, Biden and all the Neo cons do to prove that in reality they won?
    Invade Granada again?

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @meterologist
  75. “The Times serves as one the main shapers of public opinion for the Elite and so its pronouncements are not to be taken lightly.”

    Those reading and taking clues as well as directives from the Times include the one percent and their subordinate ten percent who help them rule. And that mixture must have sufficient numbers of Jews in it to cover at least, if not more, fifty percent of the entire Tribe. But what is so remarkable is that ninety percent of the populace could not give a rat’s ass about what the newspaper thinks and wishes of this great country to become whuch galls every last one of them. Fcuk’m, that’s what I say!

    • Agree: peterAUS
  76. @Gerhard57NL

    The US used to have such seasoned imperialists, nowadays it’s more hot air than substance.

    The other day The Film Archives posted a CSPAN booknotes interview with Evan Thomas, The Very Best Men from 1995. He was a journalist with Newsweek magazine. It’s only 25 years ago but it’s kind of amazing to look at the level at which people used to talk (on television!) and contrast with the morons on there today.

    Not that he wasn’t naive. He thought Lee Harvey Oswald was a solo act and other such ridiculous crap but just listen to these guys talk for five minutes. And weep.


    Video Link

    • Agree: Gerhard57NL
  77. The NYT is acting as the mouthpiece for unelected shot-callers behind the curtain, who wish to remain anonymous.

  78. “The NYT editorial signals alarm over the insane goal of the neoconservatives.”

    That merely suggests the anxiety of the ‘German’ aka sophisticated Jews, who with the exception of pork enjoy similar lifestyle of the upper class WASP, over the middle brow nebbishy Jews like Bill Cristoal, Max Boot, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Richard Pearle, Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland et al who are Israel centric and put its interests before that of the US.

    The former group knows America is their ‘home’ because there’s nothing in Israel for them (they ain’t the bobbing heads type in front of the imaginary wall), whereas the latter dream of Eretz Israel as their haven. At the end of the day, money talks and BS walks!

  79. Wielgus says:

    Vzglyad Russian website – Yandex translation edited with my notes
    Ukrainians are losing the desire to die for Zelensky
    So men of military age are caught in dragnets on the streets of Ukrainian cities

    May 25, 2022, 14:14
    Photo: frame from the video
    Text: Nikolay Storozhenko

    [MORE]

    “How can we fight for a country that doesn’t care about us?”. Such questions are increasingly heard in Ukraine – along with reports of mass surrender, desertion and the delivery of summonses right on the streets. Ukrainian soldiers refuse to die, the “Brest Fortress” did not work out even from “Azovstal”. Why, then, is Kiev announcing an upcoming counter-offensive?

    Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk… the same signals are coming from all these cities today: Ukrainian military commissars have once again gone hunting.

    Ukrainian men of military age are stopped right on the street (checking documents). Immediately, the data from the documents are copied into the agenda form: please arrive at 24 o’clock, the motherland needs heroes. And even loyal Ukrainians (loyal to the idea of an anti-Russian Ukraine, loyal to the authorities, and even the authorities themselves) have more and more questions.

    Summon the Space Marines!

    For example, recently the adviser to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Viktor Andrusiv directly opposed such distribution of summonses at checkpoints and at the entrance to supermarkets.

    “You can’t grab everyone in a row… These giveaways are illegal. A person is handed a summons without understanding the situation. Perhaps a person has three children and he is not subject to mobilisation, perhaps he is a person with a disability. That is, how is it? Do we meet a man on the street and hand him a summons? This is amateur activity, and very shameful, I think… If there is a desire to issue subpoenas, I recommend doing it at checkpoints where there are many heavily armed space marines, distributing them in the so-called volunteer formations of territorial communities.”

    Here we will interrupt Pan Adviser (my note: sarcastic use of the Polish/Ukrainian pan meaning “Mr”) although it is strange that he does not know. The fact is that since the end of April, reports have been appearing in the media about sending Territorial Defence units (TrO) to the front line. The fighters of such units themselves report this: the 115th brigade of the TrO (Zhytomyr), the 103rd brigade of the TrO (Lviv region), the 101st brigade of the TrO (Transcarpathian region).

    Their stories are similar to the smallest detail, which shows how typical the situation is.

    The Territorial Defence units, which were formed mainly for patrol and guard duty in the rear, are being transferred to strengthen the AFU units in the east of Ukraine. With only small arms and grenades, without anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons, without knowledge of the terrain. Hence the huge losses, abandonment of positions and even the reaction of the authorities: the soldiers of the 115th brigade recorded a video for which they were accused of desertion and sent to jail.

    They begin to grumble in the AFU. “We stand with machine guns against cannons, Grads, mortars. No one helps us, we don’t have any sensible weapons, there is nothing. How can we fight for a country that doesn’t care about us?” says one of the fighters of the 71st Jaeger Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    What’s up with Azovstal?

    From such news, the question involuntarily arises: if some do not want to fight, and others have nothing, why then have the forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation involved in the special operation not yet taken Kiev? And how does it all fit in with the same “Azovstal”?

    Well, they didn’t keep her until the last one, but after all, until the penultimate one. As much as they could, they tried to portray it as the Brest Fortress. Yes, “I’m dying, but I’m not giving up, goodbye, Motherland” did not work out, it turned out to be “extraction”. But some mercenaries didn’t even get that far. Many people had enough “calibration” of the Yavorov firing range to reconsider their views on life. In general, how does all this fit together?

    The question is complicated and the answer is also complicated.

    Firstly, the AFU does not exist as a single organism. This is a consequence of post-Soviet degradation and chronic underfunding of the Ukrainian army, which was only partially overcome in 2014-2021. There are combat-ready, “fashionable” units that participated in NATO exercises, their officers even received training abroad. There are better shots and matches. There are units that participated in the ATO/OOS (“anti-terrorist operation” against Donbass). There is a chasm and fortifications built in eight years. There are motivated nationalists like the same “Azov”.

    They all know how to fight, and some also love. Neither from the first nor from the second shelling, they will not run to record all-normal videos. However, according to the daily video connections of Kalyna-Volyn from the basements of Azovstal, we saw what kind of war they need and what kind of war they demand from the leadership of Ukraine: to the bone, total. All under arms. Where is the breakthrough, where is the deblockade?

    Zelensky needs such dogs of war, but he will not force the whole army to fight like this. The day before, he actually refused to fight for the Crimea: “Today it is [the war with the Russian Federation for the Crimea] – hundreds of thousands of soldiers killed only on our side.” The “Azovstal” deblockade in this case is the same Crimea, that is, large one–time losses that cannot be hidden (and quickly replenished). This is bad for ratings and for political stability. Much worse than the surrender of the Azovstal garrison, which you can lie about with three boxes: special operation, evacuation, exchange. But you can’t lie about coffins anymore.

    Secondly, despite all the cheerful statements about the readiness to fight for several years, the Ukrainian authorities are now trying to drain the blood of Ukrainian soldiers and the Russian army in anticipation of the conditional “Minsk-3”. The option, of course, is bad, Ukraine has already passed it in 2014-15. And at the same time, we saw that neither society, nor the economy, nor the army can withstand a long war in Ukraine. So Ukraine cannot escape from the next “Minsk”.

    Therefore, the masters of bluff and tiktok victories (all these “Russian ship”, “Kiev ghost”, Patron dog, paratroopers with a border selfie pole, etc.) are no less important than the dogs of war. It is difficult for the “dogs” to understand and accept this. You fight for the motherland, but she does not fight for you. And in the end, there is only one answer to the question: “What did you fight for?”: “For myself.” Not for Ukraine, not for Zelensky, not even for Bandera.

    “For myself”, by the way, is quite a reason. A person can endure a lot for himself. He can fight. Long. He just can’t die – he can’t die for himself, only for someone. That’s why they gave up as a result.

    We are waiting for a counter-offensive

    But let’s return to mobilisation and subpoenas. Some media from among the foreign agents have already trumpeted that this is all preparation for the imminent (in one and a half to two months) counter-offensive of the Ukrainian forces. The topic of the counter-offensive has not been off the agenda in Kiev for the last couple of weeks at all.

    And it all started not even with the already mentioned border selfie post. The counter-offensive of Ukraine was announced by the ex-commander of the US Ground Forces in Europe, Ben Hodges, in the first half of May. “I think the Russians are already approaching the climax. They don’t have hundreds of thousands of new soldiers or new tanks ready to fight… I think we will see Ukraine launch a counter-offensive, and frankly, they will try by the end of the summer to return Russia to the frontiers that it occupied until February 23.”

    Thanks to Hodges for confirming the obvious fact: what is happening in Ukraine is a proxy war, commanded by American generals on the Ukrainian side.

    If in fact, the Kiev regime will probably be able to heat up new hundreds of thousands of soldiers at supermarkets. As for counter-offensives, if the Ukrainians could advance, they would have pulled out the Azov from the Azovstal. Kiev, of course, as much as it can hush up their surrender, it was not possible to record the non-existent rescue operation as an asset.

    But instead of a counter-offensive, we may well see its bloody imitation: sending Territorial Defence units to the front line demonstrates this well. It seems that it is better for Ukrainian men to spend this summer at home. In the literal sense of the word.
    (My note: I am reminded of a BBC item about Afghanistan in the 1980s. Soldiers of the pro-Soviet Afghan army were secretly filmed apparently stopping a man riding a bicycle in order to induct him into the army. Assuming that is what the situation was, the Afghan army was running out of cannon fodder, so were press-ganging males and the BBC made much of the fact. The same thing it would seem is happening in Ukraine.)

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  80. @meamjojo

    Then why are you here, dumbass?

    • Agree: Wielgus
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  81. Lot of good points made here. My simple one is there is an increasingly number of Ukrainian regular soldiers complaining about their lack of munitions and officers in videos on the internet. If this is true how long until they all lay down their arms and surrender? Better for the our Jewish overlords to play innocent by calling for a negotiate peace settlement now.

  82. @Dave Wightman

    The crew here surely doesn’t care.

    Nobody here has ever called for violence as far as I can recall.

    I speak the truth and I don’t really care if the Big jews like it or not. I’ve been kicked off of social media for speaking the truth. It’s not as if this is the only place for people on the right.

    I call Senators all the time and speak the truth and voice my complaints. I don’t rant about the small hats….I’d probably use the term “neocon” so as not to insult their sensitive natures.

    If you think you are going to scare people away from the site and curtail people from objecting to jew wars and the machinations of the Big jews…..well….good luck.

    I suspect that the sheer numbers of unhappy dissidents makes it so that there is really no way they can play whack a mole with millions of people. I think FTN mentioned a poll that claimed that 30% of the populace sides with us….that’s a huge number of people.

    Seems to me that the wisest thing for the rulers to do is to LISTEN to our complaints and take heed. Dissatisfaction isn’t going to go away because they censor us….it will only fester and grow.

  83. @meamjojo

    Because NYT readers are mostly demented jews and urbanite weenies.

  84. Wielgus says:

    Video Link
    Russian Vagner “professional military company” members at Svetlodarsk, Donetsk region, talk to local woman while on patrol.

  85. Trumpeter says:

    Why are we calling them “neo-con’s” when they are neither new or conservative? History note: neo-con’s were liberal democrats who loved war, especially against the Russians. They were kicked out of the Democratic party after the antiwar sect took control in and after Chicago.
    It would also seem that religious affiliation is involved.

  86. Wielgus says:
    @Robert Dolan

    It would be funny if he gets caught in the round-up of pro-Putin elements. “There must be a mistake! I love Biden, I adore Boris Johnson, I am ready to prove my loyalty by rimming Zelensky if only you will let me!”

    Video Link

  87. @Dave Wightman

    Is it beyond you to notice that videoed hearsay reports of others alleged reports are not an answer to why you say

    Right now the little crook Zelensky is extorting western countries for 5 billion a month at Davos for his Cayman bank account.

    And showing how excited you can get is not really a good way to distract attention from the total irrelevance of your answer to the issues raised. Nor does pretending to be even more unintelligent and unedilucated than you are.

    • Replies: @Dave Wightman
  88. nsa says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    “….Zaporozhye was hit with 5 missiles…….whatever they targeted…..”
    According to Southfront, the Motor Sich plant in Zaporozhye was destroyed with missiles at 5 AM on the 25th of May. It produced various engines and turbines for drones and aricraft.
    Since you live in the area, can you report on events if it is safe to do so? Few of the commenters here have any first hand knowledge…..just what floats across the transom from the government shills on TV i.e. propaganda and disinfo.

    • Replies: @SteveK9
  89. Washington Post reported that Henry Kissinger, surely one of the elder statesmen of the Deep State, addressed Davos (on Monday 05-23) and said as much, that Ukraine should cede territory to Russia and seek an end to the war. [Via Google News].

    This, and the confirmation as reported in this article, suggests that yes, indeed, at least one faction of the Deep State seeks and end to the conflict. You know things are serious when (at least) two such high-profile statements come out almost simultaneously.

  90. …the U.S. backed Maidan coup that culminated in the hasty exit of President Yanukovych from his office…

    It is interesting to see how the original propaganda lie has now become diluted to the point of no longer being technically incorrect, though still somewhat misleading. This is mainly because it has become functionally irrelevant, due to Russia’s multiple botched attempts to take over Ukraine during the 90-day course of its war of aggression. Recall that the original version, which was a crafty fabrication – partially derived from a maliciously incorrect interpretation of a tapped phone call – went something like this:

    Victoria Nuland orchestrated a coup d’êtat that ousted the democratically elected president and then installed a successor (‘Yats’), whom she had previously selected.

    In the meantime, it ought to be evident why this proven lie was concocted and often repeated, months in advance of the war. In preparing for this war, it was import for Russian propagandists to establish a false frame of reference in the minds of many casual observers, for comparing that fake story with the planned military action. Russia’s goal was to storm Kiev, within three days, to violently overthrow the Ukrainian president and drive out ruling party members, likely arresting and assassinating those who had not already fled the country by then. Russian military would have then taken administrative control over the entire country and initiated a cease fire of the Ukrainian army through its new proxy government, perhaps led by the former president Yanukovych.

    This illegal action would have then been juxtaposed against the fake narrative in an attempt to establish some kind of moral equivalency. In other words, the actual coup d’êtat, that was to have been initiated by the Russian military, would have then been presented as simply a legitimate act of restoring the previous state in 2014. They would have claimed that Yanukovych was really still the “democratically elected” president, who had requested Russia to intercede on his behalf for the sake of re-establishing the proper order. With the fake propaganda narrative entrenched in the minds of many observers, due to constant repetition, the general outrage, it was hoped, would be significantly diminished in light of Russian forces then being in power and controlling public opinion.

    Without making charitable exceptions, it can be said quite bluntly that anyone who actually repeated the original false narrative (as opposed to merely having believed it to be true) was either a paid propagandist or a proverbial “useful idiot“. Yanukovych had actually surrendered in the immediate wake of having signed an agreement mediated by the EU, under the guidance of the UK, Germany, France, and Poland, plus Russia. Due to his effective resignation, the parliament then formally voted to replace him with a large majority. Nuland played no role in this diplomatic “coup“, with which she had competed through her own unsuccessful effort to get the UN involved in solving the conflict. ‘Yats‘ was not selected by Nuland but was simply the widely acknowledged obvious choice. This can be understood by a contemporaneous report in June 2013, eight months earlier, according to which he had already taken the initiative to consolidate power among the parliamentary opposition:

    http://ukrweekly.com/archive/pdf3/2013/The_Ukrainian_Weekly_2013-25.pdf

    THE UKRAINIAN WEEKLY
    – Sunday, June 23, 2013

    Attacks against Yatsenyuk intensify as he consolidates opposition forces

    KYIV – Arseniy Yatsenyuk led the party that he founded, the Front for Change, in merging with the Batkivshchyna party founded by imprisoned former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko at a ceremonial congress held on St. Michael’s Square in Kyiv on June 15.

    • Troll: Incisive One
  91. If the old gray lady is crying for the pounding to stop… well… they must be doing something right. So I say let the beating continue.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  92. @JohnnySweden

    Still smarting from Peter the Great cutting off your danglings at Poltawa
    (Ukraine)? The twats ruling you are worse than anything the Big Bad Ruskies
    could do to you – wake up, smell the freedom and grow a new pair 😉

  93. @meamjojo

    I must disagree with your first statement. Of many similar political sites I visit that allow comments, Unz typically has quite good articles. OK, well he hosts Anglin. Let me amend that claim to “He offers exceptional variety.” 🤪 More seriously, Unz hosts a wide variety of writers on diverse topics. Similarly, the near total freedom for readers to comment does, indeed include many good “nly for a laugh, as you say. Yet there are often very incisive observations too, even if they (probably of necessity) will be in the minority. Everybody can’t be on the right side of the Bell Curve, whether it’s for IQ or for editorial quality.

    Your second claim, about the honeypot, is entirely valid. I, and perhaps others, have often warned of just such that problem. Even if Unz is an honest broker, and I think he is, anyone with even a passing familiarity with how the Internet is set up will know, or at least suspect, that harvesting user’s information and filing it away for future (mis-)use is the easiest thing in the world. As piss-pour as the US’s privacy laws are, I suspect it doesn’t even require any [secret] court authorizations. It’s merely collecting “anonymized user data.” So for the paranoid out there, perhaps look into ways to cover your tracks. I’m sure it can be done, but I’ve no way of knowing how difficult or how successful it might be.

    As for myself, I value freedom of thought, and of expression. I cannot stop Them from monitoring me, but I’ll be damned if I will self-censor, nor will I stop reading and writing until they unplug the internet or haul me off to the camp.

    • Thanks: meamjojo
    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @TheMoon
  94. @Zachary Smith

    Please tell me more about this Apartheid state. Is it anything like what once existed in South Africa? If so, I’m sure many Americans would love to live in such a world. 🧐

    Alas, I fear that I’ve taken your comment way out of context. But it’s nice to dream…

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  95. Russia is winning and Ukraine troops are being surrounded in the east, thus the calls from the zionist NYT to seek and end to the fighting.

    • Replies: @SteveK9
    , @36 ulster
  96. ld says:

    when the dawning realization that you will get your arse kicked, the truth however perverted trickles down.

  97. Fred777 says:
    @JohnnySweden

    Putin has a higher approval rating in the US and Western Europe than any western leader. That has to sting.

    • LOL: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Avery
  98. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    THE EDITORIAL BOARD

    How many wars have they conducted? Would you take financial advice from a homeless person? It’s possible this is a deep state statement presented as being by the NYT. Ukraine regime, flunkey of US and NATO, wouldn’t negotiate anything but thumbed its nose at Russia, defying them to do something. Well they did do something so now people are scrambling to figure out what to do next. The US used the Ukrainians as cannon fodder, that much is obvious. After all this sinks in there’ll be recriminations against the traitor Zelensky and his government gunmen who propped him up by force and terror. They’ll escape to the West with nice amounts in their bank accounts leaving their former countrymen holding the bag.

  99. @Dave Wightman

    If you believe that Zelensky’s relationship to the corrupt may have bad consequences for Ukraine’s military success and you can read such relatively meaty sources as Foreign Affairs you might find this passage from a recent article stimulates thought and stops you getting so excited:

    CRIPPLING GRAFT

    Systemic corruption has hobbled Russia’s ability to fight a war successfully. Since 2013, for example, Putin has awarded at least $3.2 billion in military procurement contracts to his friend Yevgeny Prigozhin—who has provided Russian troops with such meager food supplies that they have resorted to looting grocery stores simply to feed themselves. Cheap, poorly-made Chinese tires have been blamed for slowing the advance of Russian military convoys. According to reports by Ukraine’s anti-corruption agency, one contractor supplied Russian troops with what were advertised as bulletproof vests but which turned out to be filled with cardboard instead of armored plates.

  100. @Ralph B. Seymour

    No, The New Yawk Slimes got the direction and order from the CIA-who controls it-and other Deep State power players. Even the Davos WEF, and ZION Global Financial sees the the edge of the cliff.

    “As one commenter observed, the hawks like Nuland, Blinken and Sullivan have no reverse gear; they always double down. They do not serve the interests of humanity nor do they serve the interests of the American people. They are in reality traitors to the U.S. They must be exposed, discredited and pushed aside. Our survival depends on it.”

    NO, they take orders, they are not independent decision makers, any more than a terminal with no CPU

  101. Wielgus says:

    Azov troops surrender, Donetsk forces Youtube. In several cases their Ukraine flag sleeve badges are pulled off although they seem only to be stuck on with adhesive anyway, not stitched on.
    The item is entitled “the extraction did not go according to plan” – a sarcastic reference to Zelensky’s calls for “extraction”.

    • Replies: @Avery
  102. Wielgus says:
    @InnerCynic

    From what I could hear, she is sad that there is a war at all and they should look after themselves.

  103. CSFurious says:

    Russia has air superiority. Therefore, the best way to fight is for it use artillery and just shell the enemy until they surrender. It makes no sense to use troops to try and clear an entrenched enemy. The loss of life would be too high and also very bad for morale. Artillery shelling takes longer but is the best strategy.

  104. Azaki says:

    Wait!

    I thought Putin was winning the war!
    Pepe Escobar, aka Putin’s running dog, told us so!

    If Pepe says Putin is winning the war, he’s getting his ass kicked, how can we believe him on anything else?

    I still wonder why Escobar lives in Paris and Bangkok and not in Beijing or Moscow?
    Doesn’t he like it there?

    Perhaps bourgeoisie Paris is more to his tastes. – the schmucks can live in Russia and China, Pepe will cheer them on from his haunts in the real world, Paris, where the drugs and broads are at his disposal.

    Schmuck is too good a word for a con-man like Escobar. I’m amused by his philosophy of do as I say, not as I do.

    • Agree: meamjojo
  105. @Ben the Layabout

    Why Israel is an apartheid state
    https://www.jonathan-cook.net/2018-03-18/why-israel-is-an-apartheid-state/

    Five reasons why Israel is an apartheid state
    https://www.counterfire.org/articles/opinion/22054-five-reasons-why-israel-is-an-apartheid-state

    The Work of Comparison: Israel/Palestine and Apartheid
    https://www.counterfire.org/articles/opinion/22054-five-reasons-why-israel-is-an-apartheid-state

    A brief search will find even more links declaring that the Zionist Project is so pure and good that only evil anti-semites would use the word “apartheid”. Stealing and murdering and casual thuggery is just fine when done by God’s Favorite People. They’re even more Exceptional than us White Americans.

    In some countries a person saying anything bad about the pissant state faces fines or jail time.

    • Thanks: Ben the Layabout
  106. @Ben the Layabout

    We should settle it by putting Soros and Kissinger in the octagon and have them fight it out with a referee. Maybe cut the rounds down to 90 seconds out of respect for their advanced years.

  107. @Ben the Layabout

    Not sure, Ben, why you seem to be promoting bloodstained talmudist and almost-100-yo Kissinger, along with another msm the so-called Washington Compost.
    Do you believe WP/NYT/teevee etc are reliable sources ?

    Kissinger, Schwab and Soros were all wheeled out at the WEF to aid the failing bankster cause in Ukr. It is not in dispute that not only Russia is the target but China following its hoped for defeat, then to be sliced up into debt-based bankster instruments. Just a little less crude than the gangster USA murdering and looting in Iraq, Syria, Libya but essentially the same thing.

    Moving away pro-tem from the full Magisterium😊 of the Lugenpresse, here’s Alex Christoferou in Atenas giving the news that at last Biden has succeeded in putting Russia into default … lol for full implications of this, Hungary, Bulgaria, and the WEF honcho’s giving their reason for defeat of Russia and China … clown world indeed.
    These are the people running your life, folks …

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  108. @Matt Lazarus

    I would assume Russians have given all of this much thought and have informed Washington and Tel Aviv which cities in US and Israel would be the first to go.

    Excellent idea. As an addendum, or as an alternative, the Kremlin could create a map with hundreds of sites pinpointed that just happen to correspond to the “secret” locations of the plutocrats’ nuclear bunkers in places like Montana and New Zealand and Tahiti.

    The Russians would not even need to indicate the reason for the existence of the map. Let the bankster mafia fellas figure to out for themselves. It should require about 2 seconds.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Herald
  109. Avery says:
    @Fred777

    Putin:
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/
    80%+ since the UkroNazi-Cleansing operation.
    Never below 60% since his assumption of Leadership of RF.

    Biden:
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/329384/presidential-approval-ratings-joe-biden.aspx
    % Approve Polling dates
    Latest job approval rating 41% May 2-22, 2022
    Term average to date 46% Jan 20, 2021-present
    Highest job approval rating to date 57% Jan 21-Feb 2 and Apr 1-21, 2021
    Lowest job approval rating to date 40% Jan 3-16, 2022

    Macron: 41% (April 2022)
    Boris Johnson: 33% (April 2022)
    Olaf Scholz: 38% (April 2022)

    • Thanks: Nancy
  110. Avery says:
    @Wielgus

    It is quite amazing that even Azov war criminal/murderers are treated with humanity by Russian/LDR troops.

    US would routinely strip Iraqi captive naked:

    Israelis and Hamas captives:

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @cohen
    , @TitusAlone
  111. @Wizard of Oz

    … this passage from a recent article …

    Just to inform you Wizzy that you are now on Ignore.

    You’re not even an amusing, never mind credible troll.

    Ukr is “The Beginning of Sorrows” for the Sanhedrin, Wizzy.
    You are probably already aware of this …
    Your poor attempts at diversion will not alter this inescapable fate.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  112. neprof says:

    “Finally, as the war becomes less popular and it takes its toll, an electoral disaster looms ahead in 2022 and 2024 for Joe Biden and the Democratic Party, for which the Times serves as a mouthpiece.”

    No doubt some of the $40 billion dollars sent to Ukraine will help fund reelection of incumbents this fall. World’s largest slush fund.

  113. Princeone says:

    Perhaps Putin has let it be known that the first series of nuclear missiles, to fly, will strike Israel…

    • Replies: @InnerCynic
  114. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Buck Ransom

    To ruck up ransom the B-52s will be waiting to knock few closepins off the lines in primitive land russia if these monkeys start anything.I think each bomber carries 50 megatons. So ruck up get off your knees and act like a man stop russian ass kissing.

  115. What NYT is really sayin:

    Fellas, the regime change op has failed.

    Pack it in, President Putin is staying in power.

  116. Herald says:
    @Buck Ransom

    Ah New Zealand, where a relative of mine has been making a fortune for the last decade or so building bunkers for war threatened Americans. Now just one Sarmat could and likely would wipe NZ off the map when things really go really pear-shaped. As a bonus, the nukes might well trigger the long expected eruption of the NZ Alpine fault, which by itself would likely sink the country without trace.

  117. @dave wightman

    I really think the situation has changed. With the fall of the Azov Battalion / Army and the capture of their top commander, there is one less gun held to Elinsky’s head.
    The sanctions have boomeranged on the EU and to a certain extent on all US allies. Even Israel and Russian relations have turned sour. The last Israeli sortie that let loose missiles on Syria, Russia (not Syria) fired S300 missiles, unfortunately the didn’t hit any.
    It’s my fervent wish and dream that Russia turns against Israel but it’s too much to hope for. Russia knows that they control the West and is understandably cautious.

  118. This editorial was published right after Congress voted for $40 billion to be sent to Ukraine. Secure the money and then run. What a fucking scam. Zelensky’s masters have sold him out. God, I wish I was in on it.

  119. Wokechoke says:
    @Notsofast

    Imagine how stupid Chamberlain must feel for declaring war on their Pollak behalf against Germany? He’s still vilified for being their ally.

  120. @Arthur MacBride

    What is our reference to the “Beginning of Sorrows” about? Indeed I have heard of the Sanhedrin as some council in ancient times in the Near East I think. What do you think you are talking about when you refer to the Sanhedrin?

  121. @Wizard of Oz

    You cannot even make a complete sentence?!!? You asked for the evidence, I provided evidence that Zelensky – a crook- owns multiple giant real estate mansions in Utaly and Miami. He did not make this money as President of Ukraine. So there you go- I provided evidence. So if you dare to refute me- show me his paycheck stubs from the Ukrainian govermnet, otherwise shut the fuck up loser. Next I provided evidence that he does in fact have a Cayman bank account in excess of 1 billion. one billion. And this does not exclude the fact that there may be many other bank accounts- so the guy is as crooked as any cartel guy, and as crooked as any money launderer- and I proved it. you asked for proof, I provided it in spades, but you claim it can’t be true? WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE? You asked for mine, yet you are unable to provide excelpatory evidence. How lame is that?. Now crawl back in you hole like the rodent you are.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  122. Decoy says:
    @Notsofast

    The reaction of the Ruble should make all American politicians stop and realize that Russia is not isolated, contrary to what Western media says day after day and week after week. The rest of the world do not need what we and Europe produce. They do need what China and Russia produce.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  123. @Wizard of Oz

    What a clown show you are! You are not even replying to me! I am laughing at you right now, but it is sad. Really!

  124. Anon[352] • Disclaimer says:

    Well this is a shock. I thought Russia was losing. Everyone says so,including our Marine Intelligence Officer Snot Dither. Hither, thither, dither and bullshitter !

    If Russia is losing then Ukraine is winning. Why would a winner want to negotiate a peace treaty ? I thought Vlad was on the ropes, Russia was bleeding and would be irrevocably damaged ! No ??

    When Mohammed Ali was pummelling his opponents did he ask the referee to negotiate an end to the fight.

    We need to send another trillion to the Z so he can win. Never mind the strain on the US and the fact that the American public could give a shit about Ukraine. It is worth it to bankrupt the States so we can teach Russia a lesson.

    Earlier this year I thought that things in the US were bad but could be salvaged. They have only become worse. This continent is finished, fucked up by the idiots we elect to run the place.

    Who would have thought that a demented old shit could destroy a whole country in such a short time.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  125. @Robert Dolan

    Er uh, not trying to scare anyone, just telling the truth. If that scares you little bobby, then tough shit. But then you are not really trying to have a conversation with me, or really comment on my observations, you are simply using my post as a podium to listen to yourself talk. And talk, and talk, and talk. As far as violence goes, I never mentioned it once in my comment, but since you mention it, I can easily point you to at least a dozen commenters on unz who have called for violence. But then they could be troll agitators for all I know. So could you, for that matter.

  126. Wokechoke says:
    @meamjojo

    It’s been explained to you time and again. The amount of tanks you’d expect to lose in a high intensity war between peer armies, is something like 100%!

    In Normandy the Allies burned through 100% of their tanks.

  127. @Wizard of Oz

    …relatively meaty sources as Foreign Affairs

    LOLOL. “meaty source”? Like a dead, fly blown maggot filled carcass that is so odious that it can induce vomiting from a 100 paces. Remember “Meat Head” in the TV series All In The The Family, Archie Bunker?

    The website for this Globalist Neo Con Job ekes and oozes Jew centric Global Internationalism. Publisher Council of Foreign Relations is the nucleus of the JUSA/NATO war to dismantle Russia and subjugate China in furtherance of wet dreams of The Permanent Empire, the realization of Coudenhove-Kalergi, the slave imperium of absolute rulers that own and control every thing versus “the rest of us”.

    Schlomo Lipshitz, your accusations and assertions are less than nothing, and so improbable and phantasmagoric that you are either mentally ill or as https://sayanimnetwork.wordpress.com
    you are overpaid and out of place.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  128. @peterAUS

    Since the US government has no accountability for where that assistance goes, I’m sure you don’t know either. A lot of it goes to criminal oligarchs bank accounts including US politicians. The US MIC gets a lot of it and NATO scumbags get a lot. How much helps the war effort in Ukraine? No one knows.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  129. Agent76 says:

    May 25, 2022 Volodymyr Zelensky – The Coming Weeks Will be Difficult; We have no Alternative but to Fight and Win

    Address by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to the Ukrainian people – May 23, 2022

    • Replies: @neutral
  130. HT says:

    Have they figured out that our contributions to Zelenskyy for weapons is basically just a bail out for Ukraine oligarchs?

  131. Decoy says:
    @Dave Wightman

    Re: “Ukraine is going to run out of cannon fodder”. My hope is that if Russia does encircle the ±20,000 troops in the current main battlefield, the Ukrainian troops would disobey orders from Kiev and surrender en masse. I believe that would be the end of the war. With the surrender of the 2,400 from Avostahl, Ukraine and Western media were somewhat successful in spinning it as Mission Accomplished and Evacuation. Spinning would not work with a 2nd mass surrender.

    • Agree: SteveK9
    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  132. @Robert Dolan

    I share your frustration, but calling out for violence online in a written form would not be my strategy. The social media you were kicked out of, because of some word filtering algorithm or a pissed-off censor or moderator, are chickenfeed. It’s the truly powerful server systems of the NSA and DHS et al which you will trigger and which will take interest in you and your electronic behavior. The amount of information on your persona that can be gathered and deducted from electronic data is amazing.

    Your actions must be anonymous and leave no physical or electronic traces. Only cash money, contacts only in person in hidden places. No electronic payment or messenging, no online activity, no device on your person that will allow tracking. No transport with a numberplate and no appearance on locations where cameras may capture you. The same discipline and determination to stick religiously to these iron rules will be required from all the people that you must work together with.
    These people must also muster utter discretion, loyalty to the cause and stamina to pull it through.

    Look at 80-90% of current humanity. They stand in line to get dubious shots, do not have the stomach to leave Facebook and Amazon and bury their faces in TikTok on devices that track everything about them. And those types would be your fighting allies? Don’t make me laugh. Today’s crowds have the courage and discipline of a wet newspaper. I wouldn’t trust my cause and my health to them. Never was there so much information and such plentyful occasion to learn the real truth behind world events while they are actually happening, which is a first. You and i are two individuals of a pitiful minority who have found this channel, this opportunity to find truth. Where are the crowds? No further explanation necessary.

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Thanks: JWalters
  133. @meamjojo

    No one will know the real figures during a war probably not even after one
    The casualty figures don’t really matter as Russia made the calculation that
    delay would only result in a worse situation with more casualties.
    It is a matter of survival for Russia and as such any number of casualties
    are acceptable. They would probably even go to nuclear war over this.

  134. @fran

    Fran, I read several hours a day for years on this subject and much more. I’m retired from an intense mental and physical profession. This is how keep myself in gear. My life as a research cultural anthropologist and world wide travel and habitation function as lenses and filters of everything I come in contact with.

    Anybody who trusts anything the mainline Western media write or express is in denial, cowardly uniformed, unable to apprehend information, or just stupid. And single sourcing any point is as dangerous and foolish as one can endeavor.

    I find RT to be reliable, truthful, and of high integrity, consistently. That and other sources that are small and specialized, with the principles clearly identified in a transparent manner.

    This meamjojo is a shalom, a cuck weakling, or is dominated by an alpha B & D disciplinarian.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  135. @Anon

    You do not understand … to the US, this is a shot in the arm; the dollar is
    propped up (though not up enough) and MIC stocks are through the roof.
    It is Europe that is bankrupted, as was the Plan.

  136. Phibbs says:
    @meamjojo

    “Meamjo” is either a liberal Caucasian or a Jew. He just repeats the lies of the Jew-owned media,

  137. @Dave Wightman

    I am about to make one more reply to you but it will probably be the last because I believe you are literally insane, paranoid schizophrenic perhaps.

    • Replies: @Dave Wightman
  138. As a public service, I am including the sycophant babe of bent over back passage harlot harm done: Usula Von Dirt Laydown. The groveling piece of scata is on competition to bump out Hilary Clingtonge in the Hell bound express;

    [MORE]

    European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen addressed Davos 2022 today.
    She called for unity and international cooperation in the face of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the shocks to energy and food security it’s caused.
    Ladies and Gentlemen, it is difficult to believe that in Davos today we talk of war. The Davos spirit is the antithesis of war. It is about forging ties and together finding solutions for the big challenges we face.

    In recent years, we have looked for smart and sustainable ways to fight climate change. And how to shape globalization so that all can benefit. How to make digitalization a force for good, and mitigate its risks for democracies.

    Davos is all about crafting a better future together. That is what we should be talking about here today.

    Instead, we must address the costs and consequences of Putin’s war of choice.

    The playbook of Russia’s aggression against Ukraine comes straight out of another century. Treating millions of people not as human beings, but as faceless populations to be moved or controlled or set as a buffer between military forces. Trying to trample the aspirations of an entire nation with tanks.

    This is not just a matter of Ukraine’s survival. It is not only an issue of European security. This is putting our whole international order into question.

    And that’s why countering Russia’s aggression is a task for the entire global community.

    Ukraine must win this war. And Putin’s aggression must be a strategic failure. We will do everything we can to help Ukrainians prevail and retake the future into their hands.

    For the first time in our history, the European Union is providing military aid to a country under attack. We are mobilizing our full economic power.

    Our sanctions and the self-sanctioning by companies themselves are draining Russia’s economy and thus draining the Kremlin’s war machine. Our member states are caring for 6 million Ukrainian refugees and there are 8 million internally displaced people in Ukraine itself.

    And in parallel, Ukraine needs direct budget support now to keep the economy running. It’s about pensions, it’s about salaries, it’s about basic services that have to be provided ….

    We have proposed over 10 billion euros in macro-financial assistance – the largest package of macro-financial assistance ever conceived by the European Union for a third country.

    Other countries, starting with our friends in the United States, are doing their utmost too. It is an economic relief operation with no precedent in recent history.

    That is the short term. But much more needs to be done.

    With the same resolve, we will – hand in hand – help Ukraine rise from the ashes. That’s the idea behind the reconstruction platform, that I have proposed to President Zelensky.

    Yesterday in his speech here in Davos, he recognized the unprecedented unity of the democratic world. The understanding that freedom must be fought for.

    The rebuilding of Ukraine also calls for our unprecedented unity. As President Zelensky said: the work that has to be done is colossal. But together we can and we will master the challenge. That is why we have proposed a reconstruction platform, to be led by Ukraine and the European Commission because we will combine reform with investment.

    The platform invites global contributions from any country that cares about the future of Ukraine. From international financial institutions and from the private sector. We need everyone on board

    And I was glad to hear about the conference in Lugano. Borge Brende called it a Marshall plan for Ukraine.

    And, we should leave no stone unturned, including, if possible, Russian assets. But this is not only about un-doing the damage of Putin’s destructive fury. It is also about building the future that Ukrainians chose for themselves.

    For years now, the people of Ukraine have worked for change.That is why they elected Volodymyr Zelensky in the first place.

    The reconstruction of the country should combine massive investment with ambitious reforms.

    – To modernize Ukraine’s administration.

    – To firmly establish the rule of law and the independence of the judiciary.

    – To fight corruption.

    – To build a fair, sustainable and strong, competitive economy.

    And thus to firmly support Ukraine in pursuing its European path. Ukraine belongs in our European family. Ukrainians have stood tall in the face of brutal violence. They have stood for their own freedom and for humanity.

    We stand with them and I think this is a defining moment for the democracies of the world.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, this conflict is also sending shockwaves throughout the world, further disrupting supply chains already stretched by the pandemic. It is putting new burdens on businesses and households, and it has created a thick fog of uncertainty for investors across the globe. And more and more countries and companies, already battered by two years of COVID-19, and all the resulting supply-chain issues must now cope with rising prices for energy as a direct result of Putin’s unpardonable war.

    And, Russia has tried to put pressure on us by for example cutting-off Poland, Bulgaria and Finland from gas deliveries. But this war, and this behaviour, have only strengthened Europe’s resolve to get rid of Russian fossil fuels rapidly.

    The climate crisis cannot wait. But now the geopolitical reasons are evident, too. We have to diversify away from fossil fuels. We have already set our course towards climate neutrality. Now, we must accelerate our clean energy transition.

    Fortunately, we already have in place the means to do so. The European Green Deal is already ambitious. But now we are taking our ambition to yet another level.

    Last week the European Commission presented RePowerEU, it is a 300 billion euro plan to phase out Russian fossil fuels and fast forward the green transition.

    Today, almost a quarter of the energy we consume in Europe stems from renewable sources. Through RePowerEU, we will practically double this share to 45% in 2030.

    This is only possible by also bringing cross-border cooperation to a new level. Take for example what’s happening in the North Sea.

    Last week, 4 European member states joined forces to harness the energy of off-shore wind. They decided to quadruple their off-shore wind capacity by 2030.

    That will mean wind farms in the North Sea will cover the annual energy consumption of more than 50 million homes – this is roughly one-quarter of all European households!

    This is the right way to go. Renewable energy is our springboard towards net-zero CO2 emissions. It is good for the climate. And it is good for our independence and security of energy supply.

    The same is true for the diversification of our gas supply, another pillar of RePowerEU. As we speak, Europe is concluding new agreements with reliable, trustworthy suppliers all over the world.

    In March, I agreed with President Biden to significantly step up LNG deliveries from the US to Europe. More LNG and pipeline gas will also come from the Middle East and North Africa. New LNG terminals in Greece, Cyprus and Poland will soon become operational, as will new interconnectors. And the connecting pipeline infrastructure will form the core of our future hydrogen corridors – hydrogen is the new frontier of Europe’s energy network.

    But we must also think further ahead. The economies of the future will no longer rely on coal and oil:

    – But on lithium for batteries.

    – On silicon metal for chips.

    – On rare earth permanent magnets, for electric vehicles and wind turbines

    And it’s for sure – the green and digital transitions will massively increase our need for these materials. However, access to these materials is not a given.

    For many of them, we rely on a handful of producers in the world. So, we must avoid falling into the same trap as with oil and gas. We should not replace old dependencies with new ones. We are therefore working to ensure the resilience of our supply chains. And again, strong international partnerships are at the heart of the solution.

    The Commission has already secured strategic raw materials partnerships with countries like Canada. And additional reliable partnerships will follow. Together we can create more balanced interdependencies,and build supply chains that we can truly trust.

    Ladies and Gentlemen, we are witnessing how Russia is weaponizing its energy supplies. And this is having global repercussions. Unfortunately, we are seeing the same pattern emerging in food security.

    Ukraine is one of the world’s most fertile countries. Even its flag symbolises the most common Ukrainian landscape: a yellow field of grain, under a blue sky. Now, those fields of grain have been scorched.

    In Russian-occupied Ukraine, the Kremlin’s army is confiscating grain stocks and machinery. For some, this has brought back memories from a dark past – the times of the Soviet crop seizures and the devastating famine of the 1930s.

    Today, Russian artillery is bombarding grain warehouses across Ukraine. Deliberately. And Russian warships in the Black Sea are blockading Ukrainian ships full of wheat and sunflower seeds.

    The consequences of these shameful acts are there for everyone to see. Global wheat prices are sky-rocketing. And it is fragile countries and vulnerable populations that suffer most. Bread prices in Lebanon have increased by 70%, and food shipments from Odessa could not reach Somalia.

    And on top of this, Russia is now hoarding its own food exports as a form of blackmail – holding back supplies to increase global prices, or trading wheat in exchange for political support.

    This is using hunger and grain to wield power. Once again, our answer is and must be to mobilise greater collaboration and support at the European and global level.

    First, Europe is working hard to get grain to global markets. There are currently 20 million tons of wheat stuck in Ukraine. The usual export was 5 million tons of wheat per month.

    This is now down to 200,000 to 1 million tons. By getting it out, we can provide Ukrainians with much-needed revenues, and the World Food Programme with supplies it badly needs.

    To do this, we are opening solidarity lanes, linking Ukraine´s borders to our ports. We are financing different modes of transportation. So that Ukraine´s grain can reach the most vulnerable countries in the world.

    Second, we are stepping up our own production to ease pressure on global food markets. And we are working with the World Food Programme, so that available stocks and additional products can reach vulnerable countries at affordable prices.

    Global cooperation is the antidote to Russia’s blackmail.

    Third, we are supporting Africa in becoming less dependent on food imports. Only 50 years ago, Africa produced all the food it needed. For centuries, countries like Egypt were the granaries of the world. Then climate change made water scarce, and the desert swallowed hundreds of kilometers of fertile land, year after year.

    Africa is now heavily dependent on food imports and this makes it vulnerable.

    Therefore, an initiative to boost Africa’s own production capacity will be critical to strengthen the continent’s resilience. The challenge is to adapt farming to a warmer and drier age. Innovative technologies can help us leap-frog. Companies around the world are already testing high-tech solutions for climate-smart agriculture.

    Precision irrigation operating on power from renewable, for example. Or vertical farming. Or nanotechnology, which can cut the use of fossil fuels when producing fertilizers.

    Ladies and Gentlemen

    The signs of a growing food crisis are obvious. We have to act urgently. But there are also solutions, today and on the horizon. This is why I am working with President el-Sisi to address the repercussions of the war with an event on food security and solutions in Europe and in the region.

    It is time to end unhealthy dependencies.

    It is time to create new connections.

    It is time to replace old chains with new bonds.

    Let’s overcome this huge challenge in cooperation. In the Davos spirit.

    • Replies: @Passing By
  139. @Back to the Farm

    Your probably right the average American and probably most of the EU and UK
    couldn’t care less about Ukraine I know I don’t.
    I don’t want to risk nuclear war for the profit of some American politician’s and
    the Military Industrial Complex.
    But the American government want this war and there’s nothing we can do about it.

    • Replies: @Bo Bo
  140. @poupon marx

    Was the passage from Foreign Affairs inaccurate? If you think so tell me what is not correct and how you know.

    • Replies: @poupon marx
  141. @Decoy

    There are two conceivable reasons the majority of the Ukrainian army
    active component are still holding positions in the Donbass:
    – They are just so fond of shelling civilians and do not want to get out of reach
    (unlikely), or
    – They have grown fond of well-fortified positions and have a serious case of
    the agoraphobia; given the progress of the war Special Military
    Operation ™ so far I think this likely.
    When not if they are encircled it is to be hoped the army will break –
    however they already have held out longer than expected, and the longer this drags
    on the uglier it (and the aftermath – I mean there has to be an aftermath, right?)
    is bound to get.
    Their “leaders” are already heading for the exits – it is never a good sign when the
    “heroism” number is pulled.
    Please, God, let it be over quickly.

  142. @poupon marx

    Yep, war isn’t their way. Not because it’s bloody or messy. No, it scares them They could actually get hurt. Whereas vaccines, engineered famine, poisoned food, now those are neat ways to get rid of the useless eaters.

    • Replies: @poupon marx
  143. @Dave Wightman

    I prefer not to sound patronising but it seem clear that if you ever had a mind which got you through graduation at even a third rate university you no longer have that mind. You would drive even a tolerant tutor out of his mind with your inability to make logical connections or understand what point someone is making.

    You seem to be overlooking that you started it all with what you have now effectively proved is an absurd slander against Zelensky, to wit

    little crook Zelensky is extorting western countries for 5 billion a month at Davos for his Ctheayman [sic – but thanks for correcting my mispelling Zelensky’s name with one wrong lettr. You might have made an adequate kindergarten teacher] bank account. This little creep is milking his ass-kicking for all he can get!

    Then, when pressed to justify it you come up with something completely different which does not even purport to justify the actual defamatory allegations you made. AND YOU CAN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!

    What on earth is the relevance of showing, assuming you did, that at some stage in his career,
    well before he was President as far as the evidence goes, he was successful enough to buy a villa in Italy and to put some money into foreign bank accounts? Your response is totally bizarre.

    • Troll: Notsofast
  144. @Wizard of Oz

    Are you a child? Do you really think that this story’s elements could have happened without a nuclear scandal? Do you need to run down every story in a source that is a proven liar, presstitute, and fabricator? Could Biden and Harris been unjustly accused of lying for years?

    If you wife cheated on you and lied about it, and then comes on with her panties dripping and when thrown at the wall, they stick, would you expend energy, “demanding proof” that she is telling the truth?

    How old are you? Shaved off your mustache for the first time?

  145. @PJ London

    Can’t speak for Biden but Churchill wannabee Johnson plans to star a war in Kosovo
    he’s been arming them recently and promising them they will get into NATO.
    He’s also trying to get arms into Moldova and is promising them military help
    to take Trans-Dniester.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  146. @Odyssey

    The only people that really heed the pope these days are lefty Catholics and they are dying out.

    The Vatican is a joke. I just don’t see how people think they have real power. Im almost willing to bet the church is nearly broke at this point at least as far as liquid assets are concerned.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  147. Wielgus says:
    @Avery

    Done by US troops to Japanese POWs in WW2, allegedly out of fear of hidden weapons or grenades, but not done to German ones as far as I know. The British-run “London Cage” sometimes made German detainees strip naked and then do exercises as a form of psychological pressure. Also routine in the Korean War – one famous photo taken in Seoul in 1950 showed two captured North Korean nurses allowed to retain long pantaloons, which they pulled up to hide their breasts – male POWs were stripped completely naked. I suspect humiliation is the name of the game, as much as any fear of concealed weapons.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  148. To Putin, “peace negotiations” are simply an avenue for Ukraine to surrender. Putin can not be dealt with in good faith, because he is an inveterate liar. The only way for the war to end is for Putin to withdraw his thugs from the internationally recognized borders of Ukraine as existed pre-2014. Otherwise, Ukraine can not quit fighting as Putin has shown they can not afford to quit.

  149. Bo Bo says:
    @meterologist

    I may be the only American left who is not stupid. Why? Russia is NOT the enemy of the American people! The MEXICAN GOVERNMENT is!!! They are sending/allowing across Mexico millions of illegals into the US and tons of illegal drugs!!! Are they being stopped? NO. The US is instead attacking Russia via Ukraine- a situation that has NOTHING to do with the US. The US should be attacking the Mexican government- not the Russian government. Just a thought. Help!

  150. @Passing By

    I find her positively and completely Satanic, evil, amoral, and a psychopathic fiend. Other than that, her next reincarnation is going to be full of horror, pain, and suffering. Her karma is very extremely abhorrent.

    • Agree: Passing By
  151. meamjojo says:
    @36 ulster

    And your point?

    Is sharp!

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  152. meamjojo says:
    @poupon marx

    “I find RT to be reliable, truthful, and of high integrity, consistently.”

    You’re clearly a Russian with a low IQ.

    • Troll: Commentator Mike
  153. peterAUS says:
    @Ben the Layabout

    I’m sure it can be done, but I’ve no way of knowing how difficult or how successful it might be.
    Depends entirely on what/who is onto you.

    Against state level player it could be done, but with extreme difficulty.
    In practical terms it requires solid expertise, decent money or/and access to hardware, carefully created and UPDATED SOPs and, the most important, IRON self-discipline. ONE slip and one is “made”.

    Against the rest, including well organized cyber crime, its quite doable.

    I

  154. Ukrainians will have to adjust to US “limits” and make sacrifices for newfound U.S. realism

    Translation: “Uncle Schmuely says goodbye, have a nice life!”

  155. @neutral

    No negotiations until that filth Zelensky is dead.

    “SOSA
    This garbage was recognized by my associate at lunch. From several years ago, in New York. He was an informer for the police….”

    Scarface

  156. neutral says:
    @Agent76

    Every time I see that vile jew face I wonder how Ukrainians could ever elect such a thing as their leader.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  157. @Arthur MacBride

    Not to forget special mention of Ursula vd Crazy 😎

    Europe’s Minister Plenipotentiary and funny-farm escapee.

    You’re a breath of fresh air, Alex. More power to you.

    Hoping for Greece’s return from the toils of satan and the maze of darkness.
    We Europeans all owe your great country/culture an unpayable debt.

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
  158. peterAUS says:
    @David Homer

    ..I’m sure you don’t know either…

    That’s the latest Putintard cope with the uncomfortable fact.
    The people out of that cult know about: total battle awareness, logistical chains (including repairs and maintenance), drones, towed and self-propelled howitzers, counter-battery radars and computers, advanced communication gear, ALL sorts of optics, AMMUNITION etc. Let’s leave MANPADS and portable AT systems out of it, even. TRAINING. Etc.
    Attack helicopters coming; HARPOON land batteries too.

    How much helps the war effort in Ukraine?

    A lot.

    No one knows.

    Putintards don’t want to know. Which is fine.
    The rest do.

    Even Shoigu had to mention it in his prop…I mean information, effort:
    https://ria.ru/20220524/spetsoperatsiya-1790372591.html

    …the fact that Western countries….. urgently organized the supply of lethal weapons to the country. According to him, military advisers and employees of private military companies are sent there….

    More to come.

    • Replies: @Ulf Thorsen
  159. Spanky says:
    @Wielgus

    …would be virtually the same people but for the one being Roman Catholic and the other Orthodox. Religion – the great divider. — Wielgus

    Monotheistic religions — the great dividers.

  160. @meamjojo

    Collective and governmental psychosis seems far more a trait of the present-day US and EU systems than anything noticeable in the behavior of Russians, who seem, by comparison, quite calm, far less hysterical, and generally reasonable and comprehensible.

    You are either brainwashed or a shill. Luckily most of the world, which lives outside the Western media bubble, sees the reality I just described.

  161. Spanky says:
    @Hitch

    We need an Interesting button…

  162. gabon 45 says:
    @Wielgus

    Kiev has no strategic value – neither do the people

    the only land of value is east to west along the black sea from Kharkov to Odessa – Russia will have it all

    the NW – Liev- Nazi – give it to Poland

  163. @Wielgus

    You’re being generous- rape and sexual abuse with various implements and dogs, prior to execution so the perpetrators can’t be shamed, is the most likely explanation. Abu Ghraib proved it.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  164. Notsofast says:
    @meamjojo

    and on top of your head.

  165. Skeptikal says:
    @JWalters

    For many it is axiomatic that the NYT speaks for and is run by Jews.
    So, if they change course it must be because it is good for the Jews and the general Jewish/Zionist narrative to do so.
    So far, plucky little Ukraine has played well to Holocaust descendants as brothers and sisters as victims of violence, as the NYT and MSM have presented the story. The arch=villain is Russia, and Putin, which plays well to those Jewish Americans whose historical memory is anchored in the 19th C pogroms and takes a huge amnesiac leap over WW2.
    Indeed, a course change at this point probably is needed by the Jews/Zionists because the Russia bad so therefore Zelensky/Nazi good narrative is failing, is ever more threadbare, looks ever more like . . . disinformation, and the NYT might be trying to get some kind of deal with Russia that limits the damage of the trials etc. in which Russia will be revealing that Zelensky, the creation of a powerful Jewish oligarch, has indeed been heading up a Nazi-infested state. Just like the Russkies said.

    Just like, yeah, remember? This is 1/2 of the Russian casus belli in Ukraine. Denazification.

    Maybe the NYT is trying to run away from this as fast as they can because, frankly, the whole Nazi scenario in Ukraine puts Israel in a very bad light and raises a lot of questions. Undermines the rationale for the thuggery practiced in Israel, namely, that the victims of the (original Nazis) can have no limits imposed on them to defend themselves. Some people might start to think, Gee, I guess Jews can be as thuggish as Nazis—in fact, they can actually support Nazis. So what are we doing supporting the thuggish state of Israel in its violence against the Palestinians ?

    Maybe the NYT is also trying to get a negotiation going so that Ukraine news is driven off the front pages in time for attention to be directed to the monkeypox or something else before the whole negative Nazi narrative plus DoD-run biolabs is presented to the world. Get that off the front page of the Times!! Or, better, don’t report it at all.

    • Agree: Ben the Layabout
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Miro23
  166. SteveK9 says:
    @nsa

    En.TopWar.ru is a good site. You need to run a translator. They destroyed the workshops, the extent of damage is not know. Motor Sich is a World-famous aircraft engine maker. China was trying to buy it. The Ukrainian government stole their investment ($5B). Some Russian commenters think the plant will be re-opened after Russia take over the area. They mainly want to preserve the knowledge of the old guys there.

  167. SteveK9 says:
    @Desert Fox

    Anyone who ever thought that Russia would not ‘win’ was smoking something. They hoped the Ukrainians would give up in the first few days, but it did not happen, so they had to change the operation. But, Russia is only using 10% of its military potential. They are not mobilizing, either militarily or economically. They are not even using conscripts yet. They are trying hard not to destroy the country, because they are going to take it over, probably absorb most of it directly into Russia. If they had wanted to launch a total war, with massive bombardment, destruction of electricity generation, water plants, etc. they would have flattened Ukraine in short order. But, this operation is dominated by political considerations. And, I would guess Russia is constantly adjusting what they are doing, and even their goals. Today it was announced that residents of Kherson region and Zaporazhe can apply for Russian citizenship with an expedited procedure. Donbas is already de-facto part of Russia.

    • Agree: Mikhail
  168. Morons usually double down on their error. Especially when betting other people’s lives. Not to be outdone, the genius Administration seems to be tripling down. As pointed out by Chris Moore under News Aggregates, they seem to be setting the stage for simultaneous wars with Russia, China, and Iran. The odds of nuclear war, already high, have at least doubled. What more Perfect Storm could be headed our way! Shootout at the ’Murkan Corral played with nuclear pistols. And will probably happen just as fast.

  169. Slav says:
    @Odyssey

    No, Slavic people can’t understand each other, I am a Czech, I can understand Slovak language, that is all. Even Polish is too distant and its western Slavic branch. I can understand individual words, but not the message.

    Neither I understand any Germanic language except English. The languages separated around the same time Anglo-Saxons migrated to England.

    • Replies: @Herzog
  170. cohen says:
    @Avery

    Iraqi soldiers treatment was taken from Israeli handbook, humiliation, physical and mental torture. Where in history the soldiers were tortured by captors threatening the captured with soiled tampons or women mensuration blood laden clothes?. Only Israelis know this as a taboo for some Muslim men. During the entire Iraqi operation no one mentioned a single word about Israeli involvement in interrogation of prisoners despite full knowledge of the “journalists”

    We dont see Ukrainian or Azov prisoners with hand tied behind their back and black hoods on their heads. This is exclusive for the civilized West.

  171. cohen says:

    I found this interesting and kind of humorous interview with a former Soviet Military officer, now a US citizen where he talks about Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. Unlike the US generals acting like political pundits this guy come across as down to earth individual.

  172. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:

    Good thing PeterAUS doesn’t have the balls to actually go fight for his Nazi hohols, because the USG has moved on. They’re off to Somalia, where they won’t get their ass kicked quite as quickly (it took a couple years before they ejected the US. That humiliated CIA nomenklatura Clinton worse than getting caught with a fat Izzie cow.) They’re shaking their widdle fists at China, but they’re not going to make the mistake of taking on great powers any more. They’ll stick to CIA standard let’s-you-and-him-fight.

    In any case, the hohols are abandoned. The ~$40B weapons already fell off the truck. CIA will ship it to places where it’s not hopeless. PeterAUS, maybe people here will take you seriously if you post dick pics. That would boost your credibility a lot.

  173. Wokechoke says:
    @Skeptikal

    Kissinger probably noticed too much and said “ey up, this JudaeoNazi Bunker business in Azov is bad for business.”

  174. @Wizard of Oz

    Do you feel lucky, punk? go ahead, MAKE MY DAY!

  175. Azaki says:
    @36 ulster

    Escobar is one of many agents of the Chinese and Russians.

    Nothing he says can be believed since his source of income is from these folks.

    Russians were the last Europeans to adapt to agriculture – they seem to be the last Europeans that will adapt to western governance.

    The west is wide open to all Chinese and Russian propaganda. The Russians, and to a much larger extent, the Chinese, are not subjected to Western propaganda.

    Escobar seems to be a cynical hypocrite. He lives and PLAYS in the west yet claims that the Chinese and a Russians offer an alternative. Well, they do offer an alternative, but it is rejected by a vast majority of the world. And, it is rejected by Escobar. – why else would he live and play and make his money in the western world?

    Hypocrisy is a poor foundation upon which to build. If all these “ new men” on sites like Unz Rebirw were true revolutionaries they would be living in their “dream lands”, Russia and China.

    News Flash, most live in the west, and their wives and children would abandon them if they really believed in their cause and moved the the nations they admire and defend online, Russia and China.

    Are you kidding me?!
    These knuckleheads are prankster s whose bark is far worse than their bite, which they don’t have minus their finders.

    Running dogs of authoritarian governments.

    Weak men.

  176. Cking says:

    I would think that Kissinger’s signal pronouncements with the support of the NY Times would be enough to give Joe Biden a way out of this disaster and he should take it. Will the Neocons get the message and heed? Israel’s existence may be at stake here.

  177. anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @meamjojo

    Zelensky is refusing to negotiate peace because the USA has already promised to give HIM (not Ucraine) another $50 BILLIONS of Americans TAX moneys.

  178. Herzog says:
    @Slav

    Slav,

    I am German, and during the silent Covid years I developed (or had surface) some interest in medieval history. Over the course of my readings I learned, among many other things, that Otto I, the first German king to be crowned emperor in Rome in 962, got married to a British princess in the 930s. Reading that, I felt a little sorry for the young lady, as I wondered how she communicated with her royal husband, and in her new surroundings generally.

    Then, one day, it dawned on my: Heck, likely they didn’t really speak separate languages to begin with, but only dialects of the same language. After all, the part of King Otto’s Saxon ancestors that had migrated to the British Isles from northern Germany had only done so roundabout three hundred to four hundred years before — a time span hardly long enough to create a new language unitelligible to those who had stayed in place. I imagine the linguistic situation between the distant royal couple wasn’t that different from what you write about contemporary Czech and Slovak.

    I even find that my native German often helps me in understanding 15th century Chaucer, rendering him easier for me than for many native speakers of English.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
    , @Slav
  179. @meamjojo

    And this would matter because? The New York Crimes is a DayMockRatIck tribe mouthpiece and the DayMockRatIck tribe are blueyellow flagwagger nazilovers since that has been the tribal line from February*. They have not yet been given orders by the tribal shamans on CNN that the new doctrine is to try and limit losses in the Ukranazistan project so they’re treating the editorial as heresy.

    *I know at least one DayMockRatIck tribe member from Texas who regularly changes her Twitter views overnight depending on the tribal line. For instance she went from defending Elon Musk to attacking him in 24 hours flat.

  180. The elites created Frankenstein that they can’t control anymore.
    “WE WANT WAR, WAR, WAR at the GAY, GAY, BAR. Lets start a war, lets start a nuclear WAR at the gay gay bar.”

  181. @peterAUS

    You obviously enjoy seeing my country bankrupted by unrestrained spending like this. Where should billions more of our taxpayer dollars head to next? That’s okay, go ahead and keep on milking America for all you can get eh. You’re a punk. Only wish I could say it directly to your face.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
  182. @GMC

    Well I live in a big city in Northern Europe. A really beautiful city. I love the place. But on the streets – every second face is either brown or black.

    I entered that beautiful 12th century cathedral the other day – it was empty. Sat there for an hour – no one else entered. A fat African woman was singing outside in a microphone, very bad and very loud.

    So far we haven’t had any problems with them. Some of my neighbors are Muslims and there is an African family as well. They are polite and quiet. Holding the door and all that. No problem with any of them whatsoever.

    A Polish family here is the most noisy and aggressive one. That Polish guy have insulted the African guy more than once. For no reason at all, really.

    So honestly I don’t know how to take it. The country is gone, that’s obvious. This country is not a European country anymore. The faggot’s parade – twice a year. And it’s all the local folk. Whores on the streets.

    Don’t know what to say.

  183. @Wielgus

    Precisely, brother.

    That religion has not done much good to any of us.

    • Agree: Ulf Thorsen
  184. Miro23 says:
    @Skeptikal

    Maybe the NYT is trying to run away from this as fast as they can because, frankly, the whole Nazi scenario in Ukraine puts Israel in a very bad light and raises a lot of questions.

    A more straightforward explanation would be that the Ukrainian military is falling apart.

  185. Odyssey says:
    @Ulf Thorsen

    This amount is still peanuts. In Afghanistan was spent 2 trillion, enough to rebuild from scratch the entire US water supply system for every household and business. It means, there is a long time to go. Before, you could just print dollars and spread inflation around the world. Now, when dollar is slowly losing the status of the reserve currency, this money must be paid for real, from the back pocket.

    • Agree: Ulf Thorsen
  186. Odyssey says:
    @meterologist

    The same thing from Russian perspective:

    – Serbs are the only people in Europe who fought against the Western Empire. When the Western thalassocracy rushed towards our borders like a storm, then a shield and a flag of freedom were raised on the Serbian mainland. The first walls of Eurasia were erected in Serbia. The Serbs received blows that were intended for us – said Russian political philosopher, sociologist, geopolitician, Alexander Dugin which voice is heard in Kremlin.

    Dugin emphasized that Russia owes Serbia the return of Kosovo, and that it must repay that debt in the near future.

    – Our debt to the Serbs is huge. If the Serbs had not opposed the West, the minds inside the Kremlin would not have awakened in time and Putin’s Russia would have been late. We owe Kosovo to the Serbs. To make Kosovo Serbian again: that is the historical and moral duty of Russia. We have our Kulik field, the Serbs have their Kosovo field. But in spirit, it is one and the same field where we will meet and defeat the enemy in the last battle on Earth – concluded Dugin.

    • Replies: @Here Be Dragon
  187. All that will be left of Ukraine is Kiev and Chernobyl when this is over.

    Note that Hungary probably gets Transcarpathia and Poland probably gets Lviv.
    Ukraine is about to become a landlocked welfare state.
    Zelensky is overseeing the collapse of his military and trying to dictate terms to a nuclear superpower.
    haha

  188. JWalters says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    Completely agree. The neocons are the main cheerleaders for the hot wars and the economic sieges, all to benefit the Talmudist banking mafia.

    And the neolibs go along with them completely.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  189. TheMoon says:
    @Ben the Layabout

    I consider it my patriotic duty to keep my FBI observer entertained.

    • LOL: Spanky
  190. 36 ulster says:
    @meamjojo

    That first sentence is the first true statement you’ve made–and probably ever will make. I just hope that the many Olbermannesque socio- and psychopaths who comment at Unz.com don’t have easy access to sharp objects. That said, include yourself in the mix–you’re just another pseudonym in the crowd.

  191. TheMoon says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    Muslims don’t get aggressive until they achieve a critical mass.

    • Agree: Odyssey
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  192. JWalters says:
    @fran

    Ironic indeed! Thanks for all that info. In addition, I’ve read that some internet troll operations are run out of Israel, many hiring students, as part of government propaganda operations. (Paid for with our money!) I suspect this is where the more educated debaters may be located.

    • Replies: @fran
  193. 36 ulster says:
    @Desert Fox

    True enough. I AM surprised, though, at the crack in the Narrative/Psyop coming so soon; I thought it would continue until the Victory Mass in the impressive Armed Forces Cathedral, followed by the parade in Moscow, where those weapons not sold off by the Ukrainians would be transported to be put on display. But even some of those cheerleading and willing to fight to the last Ukie are facing the harsh truth: even if the Russians yield some of the territory they’ve taken, they won’t give up the Donbass, and the Ukrainians don’t have the strength to retake it. Kiev had eight years to resolve the impasse in that ravaged area, and they blew it. And Russians and Ukrainians are paying the price for the fecklessness and corruption of Kiev–and the West.

  194. JWalters says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Very well stated.

    For interested readers, I stumbled across this documentation of the amazing extent of the infiltration.
    When Victims Rule
    https://whenvictimsrule.blogspot.com

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  195. MaryLS says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    What direction is that? Also, how can you possibly know how things are going? Media reports are completely unreliable.

  196. @Robert Dolan

    Your clarity of thought and certainty of conviction consistently expressed on here is a fortifying contrast to how duped and cowardly the goy public is in the face of Jew tyranny.

    But you seem to be saying that those of us who comment here face no risk because we don’t advocate violence.

    Sure seems as expressed before

    https://www.unz.com/ishamir/deep-pockets-love-lockdown/#comment-3889247

    that the two big downside risks of commenting here are 1) the mortal danger of being cyber tracked by Jew foot soldiers seeking to identify and punish/eliminate truth tellers; and 2) the intellectual property danger of Ron Unz claiming ownership interest in comments made thus ideas expressed here which infers the ability to suppress future publication elsewhere by the person who posted his ideas in comments here, or anybody who wants to quote a comment maker.

    The comment you’re addressing expresses the controlled opposition possibility anybody aware enough to frequent this site certainly contemplates.

    Note that Ron Unz did not address my prior comment about this.

    John Fogerty ended up precluded from performing his own intellectual property by his Jew agent so typically inept in the performance discipline as he lyrically expresses (click “SHOW MORE”) here:

  197. nickels says:

    I’ve got a piece plan for the Jew York Times.
    Russia takes a piece of Ukraine here, a piece of Ukraine there, Hungary takes a little piece, Poland takes its piece and the rest of Ukraine has one big last gay orgy in Kiev and then disbands.

    • LOL: Hitch
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  198. @Wizard of Oz

    I realize Foreign Affairs is a reputable establishment magazine of long standing. I read its Wikipedia page (yeah, I know, I know). I needed to read no further than its publisher, the Council on Foreign Relations which they describe, and I quote: “a nonprofit, nonpartisan, membership organization and think tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy and international affairs.”

    You gotta admire their subtle humor: “nonpartisan.” 🤣 I’m assuming it’s unconscious. In any event, the CFR is basically cut from the same cloth as the owners and employees of the New York Times. Deep State, going back generations.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  199. Fox says:
    @Odyssey

    Do you know that there is an identical story regarding the Czech language, namely that it was created by some monks to replace the Germanic vernacular spoken in Bohemia? Hence the Czechs would be mainly of Germanic blood through their Quadic and Markomannic forebears.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
    , @Slav
  200. @Odyssey

    Russia could have stopped that war and did not. That’s the debt.

    Visiting Belgrad, right before the war are some of the best memories of my life. We got invited for dinner every single day. People we had never met invited us for dinner every day.

    Amazing people.

    • Replies: @littlewing
    , @Odyssey
  201. @Here Be Dragon

    James Baker Sect of State in the early 90s promised that NATO would not expand eastward.
    Broke every promise, creeping on Russia’s doorstep.
    Feb 19, 2022 Zelensky said “I want Ukraine to be a nuclear power.”
    Feb 19, 2022 (Acting) US Vice President Kamala Harris at the Munich Security Conference said “Ukraine should join NATO.”
    Putin Feb 22, 2022
    ‘I’m goin in.’

  202. Avery says:

    {Russia could have stopped that war and did not.}

    Sorry, have to disagree.

    Russia simply couldn’t.
    NATO invaded without UN authorization, so you can’t fault Russia for not vetoing it.*

    Russia even tried a kinda-sorta show of force by racing paratroopers to Kosovo.
    But they could not sustain it.
    In 1999 Russia was simply too weak after two terms of Yeltsin mismanagement and the looting of Russia by you know who of $100s of US$ Billions. Entire industries were looted.

    Even after Putin came to power it took years to restore Russia’s military and heavy industry.
    Even in 2008 when Georgia attacked South Ossetia and Russia responded, Russian after-the-war evaluation was very critical of Russian military’s performance. And Georgia is on Russia’s border.

    btw: Serbia hasn’t done much recently to gain Russia’s goodwill.
    Serbia voted against Russia at the UN re Ukraine invasion.
    As it stand now, Serbian leadership and a large chunk of Serbs have fallen for the GloboSorosa Pied Piper.

    __________________________
    * Russia is guilty of not vetoing the criminal assault on Libya by NATO/West.

    • Agree: Here Be Dragon
    • Replies: @Odyssey
    , @Anon001
    , @Anon001
  203. @nickels

    THAT is the Zionazi ‘Piece Plan’ for the Palestinians.

  204. Glad to know someone on UR is willing to learn something😊 I am surprised that no one had already referred to the Council of Foreign Relations with foam flecking at the mouth.

    I posted the extract because I hoped that “David Wightman” ‘s mind wasn’t too disordered that, having made madly inaccurate and irrelevant remarks about Zelensky ,a probably accurate reference to Russia’s corruption problem could have helped sort him out.

  205. @Hitch

    It is also the same New York Times that called bullshit on the Vietnam War long before the mainstream conservative majority of Americans had a clue.

    But you don’t know that. For obvious reasons.

  206. @Azaki

    Really moronic agit-prop. ‘The west is wide open to all Chinese and Russian propaganda’?? Amidst unprecedented totalitarian censorship of ‘disinformation’ that is a statement so mendacious and cretinous as to, almost, defy belief. The rest is vile gibberish. Another Imperial psychopath.

  207. Odyssey says:
    @Avery

    Just to give you more details. Nato cowards were afraid to send infantry to Serbia because they knew that would be defeated. They knew very well previous Serbian history. Because they engaged 1000 aircrafts to bomb the area of 600×400 km with DU for 78 days from the height of 5000m+ to avoid ordinary anti-aircraft systems. Russia could provide at least one S300 and this would be enough to deter Americans from bombing. But this decision was in the hands of drunken Yeltsin and he was under American control. Serbs knew that Russia was on the verge of dissolution and they did not have bad feelings toward Russian people.

    It was signed the peace accord with Nato under Chernomyrdin’s mediation. He was promised by Americans to succeed Yeltsin and he told Serbs that they cannot expect any help from Russia that they must capitulate without any preconditions, otherwise Belgrade will be levelled. In this document was still the Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo and that 1000 Serbian soldiers can be stationed there to protect the border and monasteries. Americans immediately reneged on the document they signed, established their military base in Kosovo, organised colour revolution and brought their puppets to lead the country, supported Kosovo Albanians to declare independence and forced many countries to recognise this narco-trafficking country and started forming their army although it was prohibited by the signed document. So, this is a current situation.

    New American puppets extradited Slobodan Milosevic to Hague. These puppets were later replaced with the new current garniture who are also American puppets who got a task to formally recognise the independent Kosovo, the cradle of Serbian civilisation with about 2000 churches/monasteries on 90 km radius (Albanians have not one monument). Aleksander Vucic still could not deliver it because of the strong people resistance but he tries to satisfy Americans by voting against Russia intervention in Ukraine but also could not introduce the sanctions because of people, so, Serbia is the only country in Europe which still did not introduce sanctions to Russia, despite the strong pressure and despite is having the American puppet leadership.

    • Thanks: Avery
    • Replies: @Odyssey
    , @Here Be Dragon
  208. Biff says:

    If Russia starts winning and playing a dominant role in global geopolitics, the Jews will abandon the hollowed out husk of Washington and begin to attach themselves to Russia – or whom ever is winning. The one entity the probably won’t accept them is China, which is why China is enemy numero uno.

    The cracks in the foundation are forming as this article points out.

    • Replies: @TitusAlone
  209. @Here Be Dragon

    “Don’t know what to say”

    Well I don’t know how old you are but your governments told you in the early 1980s to have children, you didn’t. Then they offered you money to have children. You refused.
    You wanted a nice apartment and a nice car.
    So there you landed.
    My ancestory is technically Northern European but I have no feelings or connection to any of you. I am American since 1630 and you are all foreigners to me. You had no grit, no loyalty, no patriotism it was all about self. You didn’t even fight for your country in WWll, we had to. My older sisters father was shot down as a pilot over France, they didn’t even bring him home. My father also a pilot survived, those guys didn’t come home happy. They were damaged due to the hell of war.

    You got exactly what you deserved.
    Which was no future.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  210. antibeast says:
    @Azaki

    Let’s see what’s going to happen to your American ‘Dreamland’ once the Petrodollar dies a violent death in Ukraine.

    • Agree: Swaytonious, nokangaroos
    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  211. Odyssey says:
    @Here Be Dragon

    You can have a look my comments #363, (#366, #382) in the Larry’s Gypsy thread. This is your heritage, too. If you have time, read my other comments there, you will find a little treasure and answers on some of my questions.

  212. Spanky says:
    @Ben the Layabout

    Glad to know someone on UR is willing to learn something… — Wizard of Oz

    [The CFR is] Deep State, going back generations. — Ben the Layabout

    Just in case you might be interested…

    Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time by Carroll Quigley, Ph.D. (historian)

    Who Is Running America (a series) by Thomas Dye, Ph.D. (sociologist)

    These are worthwhile reads about the CFR and U.S. deep state. FWIW, have maintained a subscription to Foreign Affairs for well over thirty years. Graduated from a university with a fairly large number of faculty who were CFR members. My choice of institution (and instructors) was not simply fortuitous. Smart people, among other things, and well organized. Committed.

  213. Odyssey says:
    @Fox

    It is easy to distinguish Czechs and Germans according to their genetics. Many modern Germans are genetically (germanised) Serbs. It is theoretically possible that some Czechs are of German origin. Were there ‘monks’ Cyril and Methodius? This is a big topic. If you know, you can provide more details.

    • Replies: @Slav
  214. Odyssey says:
    @Swaytonious

    If you are a Polish, you may be offended by the description of the intelligence of Poles. This ‘intelligence’ sentenced you to be designated Anglo-American cannon fodder in the past and now, similar to Ukies now. I always remember the Mt. Casino in Italy from ww2. But, you are the brothers who could not be chosen even if you presented yourself as the totally dumbas.

    • Replies: @Swaytonious
  215. @Odyssey

    Heh.. not polish.. I’m an Anglo-American.

    • Thanks: Odyssey
  216. @Avery

    A timely reminder. Aside from the indignity inflicted on the captives, there is also that undertone of sexual sadism, which was rampant in the Abu Graibh photos.

  217. Anon001 says:
    @Avery

    Many people miss the treachery of Putin (not Russian people) towards Orthodox Christian Serbs/Serbia to suck up to and please the West, i.e. his much beloved and much worshiped “partners” including Turkey, as follows:

    1) Putin helped West’s colored revolution in Serbia in 2000 – when the West captured and colonized the entire country, installed their puppets, and looted everything. For this treachery, Putin got nothing from the West. Destruction of Serbia continues to this day in every way possible – NGOs, destruction of education, banks, economy, factories, culture, family, looting and theft of natural resources, dirty technologies, further hijacking/slicing of other areas of Serbia aside from Kosovo (like Province of Vojvodina, Sandzak/Raska Area), attack on the Serbian Orthodox Church using Phanar, etc.

    2) Putin withdrew Russian troops from Serbian province of Kosovo and from Serbian areas in Bosnia to please his beloved West and to get membership in G7 from which, later on, Russia was thrown out – so he betrayed Serbia for nothing.

    3) Putin helped break up unity of Montenegro and Serbia, by helping criminal and separatists elements in Montenegro. This was most likely done to please Russian oligarchs, that wanted Montenegro as their Adriatic Sea criminal vacation paradise and business operations base, and possibly to please the West again. After that separation was complete, Montenegro betrayed him and turned to the West. So he again betrayed Serbia for nothing.

    Those are the main treacheries of Putin towards the Orthodox Christian Serbs/Serbia. The fact that he did not betray Serbia in the UN, regarding SC Resolution 1244, is a true miracle.

    Putin remains Western pleaser and worshiper to this day. As we know, he’s still committed to being the most reliable partner to the West that happens to want/plan to destroy Russia. He has surrounded himself in Kremlin with 5th column and Atlantic Integrationist people, and it’s been 20+ years. Could he be one of them too, as he’s been “fighting” this 5th column constantly, yet they still happen to be around, unless gone on their own accord – like Anatoly Chubais?

    I’m pretty sure, operation in Ukraine was not what he wanted, i.e. he wanted to betray those people again, like he did 2014-2022 during which 14000 ethnic Russian civilians (Orthodox Christians) were murdered in Ukraine. But this time around, probably Russian military told him that he cannot do so again, and with a heavy heart he agreed, but told them to make it quick and put constraints on what they could do, rather than declaring war on Ukraine for their mass murder of ethnic Russians civilians during 8 long years of terror he ignored and did nothing about. All this mess could have been prevented in 2014 (West’s colored revolution in Ukraine) when he betrayed Ukraine and ethnic Russians there and went to enjoy Olympics in Sochi while their slaughter commenced.

    So here we are.

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Disagree: Avery
    • Replies: @profnasty
  218. Odyssey says:
    @Odyssey

    PS: In spite of not having S300, Serbs shot down several planes, including two ‘invisible’ B-2 Spirits, Stealth Bombers, each $2.2 billion worth. The stealth technology was immediately given to Chinese whose Belgrade’s embassy was ‘accidently’ bombed and destroyed and 3 people killed. After few years these stealth aircrafts were decommissioned. The photo presents the celebration and dancing on the wing of the invisible in the village where the plane was shot:

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  219. @Azaki

    The alternative is a rejection of anal American values.. not castrating your sons.. not feeding kids to pedophiles.. economics is bullshit compared to your family and kids.

  220. @antibeast

    People don’t even understand how insane it’s going to get. I’ve tried to talk about it to my friends and coworkers. When I get into the meat of it they lock up and don’t want to hear more… It’s so sad. Though, even I realize I’m merely giving an “Assume bracing position” announcment on an airliner that has clearly already lost both wings. I’m going down too and I’m just so late to the party, to late in understanding what’s going on that there is nothing I can do to save myself either. Not enough resources to prepare with so little time left.

    I almost envy the ignorant.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  221. @Herzog

    I find middle English very interesting. I come from an old Southern American aristocratic family even with ancestors who served as officers in the Continental Army in the American revolution. It actually surprised me to realize how much Middle English vocabulary my family has. It’s also interesting how that stayed with the family. It was really surprising when I read a page of common middle English words and was dumbfounded because every word listed was one I already knew and sometimes use in speech and writing.

    Thankfully I’m told I come across as a poet instead of a pompus ass. Lol

  222. fran says:
    @JWalters

    Israel actually outsources most of this type of work—legitimate, illicit and in between—to Ukraine. The financing and founders may come from Israel but the grunt work is done in Ukraine. Even their established & high valuation tech companies generally have at minimum an engineering office in Ukraine. Israel just doesn’t have the human capital, plus Ukrainian salaries are a fraction of those in Israel. The Israelis like to pretend that they have an exceptional tech industry and market themselves as such, but in reality it’s utter garbage propped up by government-sanctioned fraud and a lot of smoke & mirrors.

    I know they organize local students and sympathetic diaspora to defend Israel online, but that doesn’t bother me much and I don’t find it to be scandalous.

  223. @littlewing

    I hate to say but the tiny hats have had a lot longer time to lead them astray. America’s anglo upper class has been gone less than a century. I have empathy for them. I don’t care how people react to this but Hitler tried to snap Europe out of the Jew’s spell. I still believe they could be pushed back into the light but, like our boomers, real change won’t be visible until all those of age today are gone.

    That said, I managed to snap out of it.. and so I still feel they should have the same faculty.. but the truth is that the commons isn’t as intelligent as we wish it was. The fact you even come to an alternative website like this sits you in an uncommon class. We think it should be plain as day to everyone but we have had the blessings of free time to do the research and spend the time neccessary to comprehend. The masses are too busy worried about getting the kids to sportsball practice or paying the rent. We have to have empathy for these people or it’s really all for naught anyway.

  224. Seems to me that the NYT sees the handwriting on the wall and is only showing “concern” and “caution” because they see where this is going. The west has miscalculated again, they are going to lose this SMO and they would rather walk away gracefully now rather than be humiliated yet again. Then they can regroup and start trouble again. Nothing virtuous here, just licking their wounds till they can come up with another way to destroy Russia.

  225. @Wizard of Oz

    You ramble around for a while and I see no evidence presented at all! Zelensky is a crook, a liar, a coward that hides in poland while pretending to be in kiev. He was put in power by vote fraud in an Obama-backed coup that ousted the legally elected president and included what is known as the MAIDEN MASSACRE. This was perpetrated by Obama-supplied snipers indiscriminately murdering hundreds of protesters and police alike. Thsi would be like Biden supporters killing hundreds of protesters and Capital cops on Jan 6, instead of only murdering one of each. And apparently the Wizard of Oz supports this type of coup and mass murder of protesters!!! You have no idea where Zelensky’s billions came from- they came from Obama, Biden, and George Soros. Then in a failed attempt to refute me, you post this mashup of my statements mixed with your misspellings:

    “little crook Zelensky is extorting western countries for 5 billion a month at Davos for his Ctheayman [sic – but thanks for correcting my mispelling Zelensky’s name with one wrong lettr. You might have made an adequate kindergarten teacher] bank account. This little creep is milking his ass-kicking for all he can get! ”

    and after you spew this Kamala Harris word salad of my statement mixed with your incomplete sentences and misspellings, you claim I am bizarre?

    You could not spell Zelensky, and here above you mispelled the word letter (lettr)! And you claim you are some type of teacher? Some type of tutor? No wonder today’s kids are the dumbest of the dumbed down. And in order to be patronizing, you would need to be smarter than me, which clearly you are NOT. What you are is snarky and smirky. There now you have 2 new words for today’s homework, little whiz. Now you can go back to your coloring book and your grooming of trans kids. Aren’t you special? And no touching the swimsuit area, you know that is a term of your probation!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  226. Slav says:
    @Herzog

    It is likely continental Saxons still spoke a very similar language back then. Slavs also spoke a very similar language to each other during the 9th century, so standard Church Slavonic could be adapted.

    I have read somewhere that the Dutch language and the Frisian language are closest to English of all languages.

    In the case of Germany, the languages were already split during the migration period but later merged back. I am not sure how close the dialect of Lower Saxony nowadays is to ancient Saxons.

    The modern state of Saxony (the one with Dresden as its capital) has little in common with ancient Saxons, it was settled by people from all parts of Germany after the genocide of Polabian Slavs.

    • Replies: @Herzog
  227. @Dave Wightman

    It really isn’t fair to the worthy intentions of our host for you to indulge in creating a long comic Trivial Pursuit. Thanks for showing your hand decisively before I might have wasted time reading it all though I did notice further down that you didn’t want your game to be missed so trumpeted yet again your noticing that I had initially misspelled Zelinsky.
    And to capitalise MAIDEN MASSACRE [sic] was a nice touch if you thought your readers might miss it. Of course you know what the true spelling us (for English speaking readers).

    And of course you know what you say about Obama is even more ridiculous as he couldn’t have backed a coup which put Zelensky in power (actually by receiving over 70% of the vote). Zelensky was elected first in 2019 when, if you need reminding, Trump was US President.

    As for Zelensky being in Poland – where do you get that? Perhaps you are mistaking him for a Polar explorer.

    I don’t want to encourage you to think your dizzy frolics are sufficiently entertaining that you should continue to abuse Ron’s hospitality so I’ll leave it there.

  228. antibeast says:
    @Swaytonious

    They will just blame Putin for the shit that is about to hit the fan, LOL!

  229. @Odyssey

    What the partizans (maybe) got were F-117;
    the B-2 was just an unclean thought at the time 😉

    • Replies: @Avery
  230. Slav says:
    @Fox

    This is bullshit, I am a Czech and never heart it. People in this area spoke Slavic language long before being Christianized. Slavs arrived around the year 400 or 500, first Christian missionaries around 800. I know that Sudeten Germans used to see themselves as descendants of Marcomanni. But it was just Nazi propaganda, in reality, they were recent colonists. Their arrival is well documented in written medieval records.

  231. Slav says:
    @Odyssey

    If some Czechs are of German origin, they are more likely descendants of later German settlers. There were no Germans between the fifth century and the eleventh century. It is well documented. The later German settlers actually assimilated in some regions, in other regions, Czech speakers were Germanized. What Fox says is bullshit, probably originates from Nazi propaganda about the ancient origin of Suddeten Germans.

    • Thanks: Odyssey
  232. @Wizard of Oz

    Again you fail to produce anything other than your religious belief that Obama and his puppet Zelensky = good. Obama’s murderous bloody coup (using BlackWater hired guns) produced a Ukraine that was a front for the USA with members of Pelosi, John Kerry, Mitt Romney’s family on the board of Burisma (Ukraine’s Gas Cartel). Along with son of Joe Biden, Hunter Biden. These crooks (Anti-Trump every one of them) call the shots in Ukraine and by vote fraud selected a guy who played Ukrainian President on a comedy show to become the President of Ukraine. The guy is an actor playing a president, and he is well paid for it in US dollars.

    Here is yet another muti-million dollar mansion where the little lying crook zelensky has hidden his family- IN ISRAEL:

    “ZELENSKY’S WIFE AND PARENTS ARE IN RISHPON, ISRAEL IN AN $8 MIL VILLA, HAVE GUARDS AND CITIZENSHIP
    Along with kids & wife, Zelensky has moved his parents out of Ukraine. They received Israeli citizenship and moved to a $8 million mansion in the lush coastal town of Rishpon north of Tel Aviv-Jaffa; with a separate nearby house for the security detail of four.”

    As to Zelensky hiding in poland- it is in the newpapers:

    https://uatv.ua/en/zelensky-arrives-in-poland-on-two-day-visit/

    and you think Poland is in the artic? Now that proves exactly how clueless you are!!!

    Now go back to your tinker toys and your teletubbies ‘whizzer of oz’!

    How does that crow taste?

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  233. @Wizard of Oz

    Tip of the iceberg! More proof of corrupt Obama administration operative Joe Biden interfering in the Ukraine government with extortion and blackmail:

    So the Whizzer of Oz not only approves of the Obama backed MAIDEN MASSACRE, but he supports extortion and blackmail of Ukrainian Federal Prosectors! Business as usual- whatever it takes to get the gaft going.

    • LOL: Wizard of Oz
  234. profnasty says:

    Hope is alive.
    Yet, Israel will not be denied.
    As per Paul Craig Roberts:
    Putin told the neoconservatives in 2007 at the Munich Security Conference that he accepted no such limits on Russian sovereignty. China and Iran have also rejected Washington’s hegemony. It is the neoconservatives’ unwillingness to accept a multi-polar world that is the cause of conflict. If the neoconservatives are not dethroned, they will bring about nuclear Armageddon.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  235. profnasty says:
    @Anon001

    Putin did something.
    He annexed Crimea and gave tentative support to Donbas. He says he invaded to prevent genocide. I believe him.
    Thanks to US Kiev is loaded for bear. This may yet reduce to nuclear war. Let’s hope and pray Washington relents. NeoCons be damned.

  236. Anon001 says:
    @Avery

    — Re Serbia “voting” against Russia —

    It was not the Serbs, but rather Western puppet at the helm of Serbia – slimy psycho Aleksandar Vucic, who promised to be the best political wh*re in order to be installed and kept in power by the West. The only reason he did not go all the way yet in his treachery, is because he’s scared that the Serbs may rise up, find him, and be done with him. This will most likely happen anyway at some point, as people are just sick of his sycophancy, his lies, and his servitude to the West with no end in sight.

    Russian politicians are fully aware of this dichotomy between Western political puppets in Serbia and the Serbian people, as well as of another crucial fact: that Putin helped the West with color revolution, regime-change, and occupation of Serbia in 2000 in order to please his “partners”. Hence they are fully aware of their own treachery against Serbs and take no action when Serbia “votes” against Russia.

    — Re Serbs and globalism —

    Recent pools done in Serbia are all in agreement that more than 80% of people there are against joining EU, joining NATO, introducing sanctions against Russia, etc. Considering that Serbia is very multicultural, i.e. that many non-Serbs live in Serbia, this percentage is most likely closer to 95% if one counts only ethnic Serbs. And all this is after more than 20 years of constant attempts of brainwashing Serbs by the West in every aspect possible. They failed 100% to change Orthodox Christian Serbs minds and souls.

    • Agree: Avery
  237. Avery says:
    @nokangaroos

    Not a “maybe”: fact.

    One F-117 was shot down.
    One F-117 was hit, but was able to fly home and land.

    And it wasn’t, quote, “partisans”: it was regular Serb anti-air defenses.
    The shoot down was no accident: it was ingenious.
    The Serb commander of the unit described — in vague language — how he thought about it and how he devised the way to detect and hit the F-117s.

    [This is how the F-117A was shot down in Serbia by a SA-3 (S-75) Goa SAM in 1999]
    https://www.defenceaviation.com/how-was-f-117-shot-down-part-1/

    • Agree: peterAUS
    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  238. @Odyssey

    Russia could not have provided Serbia with S-300 – there is no plane that could lift up that mass and deliver it, and considering the political situation then it was impossible to deliver it.

    However the Russian paratroopers were holding the airport in Pristina for three days and wanted to bring more troops, but Yeltsin said “No”.

    • Agree: Avery
  239. @Dave Wightman

    Biden is doing the exact same extortion and blackmail in america today! He states that ‘unless schools allow boys in the girls bathrooms, that HE will cut off funding for those schools’. So no more ‘Obama free lunch for kids’ unless you let freakazoid genderbenders sneak intot he girls restroom to rape them. I bet Joe did that as a boy also back in his Happy Days! Any takers? Thought not.

  240. @Dave Wightman

    Good bye. And not Aufwiedersehn.

    • Replies: @Dave Wightman
  241. Herzog says:
    @Slav

    Slav,

    There isn’t much left in terms of a Lower Saxony dialect these days, as standard German has made such inroads over the past, say, forty years as to virtually eradicate it, save for a few small rural pockets perhaps.

    When I was a kid though, forty (plus x) years ago, my farmer grandfather in the small village in southern Lower Saxony that I hail from still found it taxing to speak standard German: The local Low German dialect was his natural idiom. It was in my mother’s generation that the full transition toward standard German took place.

    As you say, the modern federal state of Saxony is in no organic way connected with the ancient Saxons of northern Germany and southern Britain. The name got transfered there due to some dynastic accident, the details of which I forgot.

    The “genocide of the Polabian Slavs” is total news to me, I have never even come across their ethnonym in my medieval readings. Were they perhaps known by other designations as well? Also, when did this “genocide” you speak of happen?

    As to the term “genocide” itself, I put it in quotemarks because I find it (a) anachronistic, (b) needlessly polemic. I get the sense that you incline toward projecting back German-Slavonic animosity of the 19th and later centuries into the Middle Ages. But whatever conflict and warfare there was between nascent Germany on the one side, and Slavic peoples and nascent states on the other between, say, 900-1200 was either religiously or politically motivated, but lacked “racial” animus (genetically, we’re totally close anyway). For instance, Otto III, grandson of the Otto I whom I mentioned in my earlier post, even made an ostentation of his friendship with the Catholic Polish monarch. At the same time, both kings saw the non-Christian Slavonic tribes in the buffer zone between their respective kingdoms as fair game.

    • Replies: @Odyssey
    , @Slav
  242. Odyssey says:
    @Herzog

    Just wondering…do you know about Serbian principalities in today’s (East)Germany, that Serbs founded and named Berlin, Brandenburg, etc, that Leibniz and Martin Luther were ethnically Serbs?

    • Replies: @Slav
  243. @Biff

    If Russia starts winning and playing a dominant role in global geopolitics, the Jews will abandon the hollowed out husk of Washington and begin to attach themselves to Russia – or whom ever is winning.

    Yes. That will be the only proof needed that the tide has turned.

  244. @Avery

    The F-117 is notorious for the aerodynamic qualities of a toilet seat,
    and two were lost, hence the “maybe”.
    Far be it from the humble one to cast aspersions of doubt etc etc.

  245. Wielgus says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Maybe, although I try to avoid sweeping statements on the Internet.

  246. @Wizard of Oz

    Here is more evidence of prior US criminal meddling in Ukraine that led to the Maidan Massacre, the shelling of the Donbass region for 8 years, and the current Ukraine Police Action by Russia. Whizzer of OZ supports this murderous Russia-antagonistic empire-building agenda wholeheartedly, while claiming it never happened. What type of deluded mind can bridge those glaring inconsistancies? A mind that lives in a spin web-of-lies ‘wag the dog’ fantasy world:

    This is the entire phone conversation between US Ambassador to Ukraine, and Victoria Nuland- currently on Biden’s team of crooks, but formerly- wait for it- of Obama’s team of regime change specialists who brought the world ISIS, color revolutions, and millions of displaced reufgees and unwanted migrants to a country near you- and I mean real near! Like in your backyard!

  247. @Dave Wightman

    If all your fantasies were true how many civilians would the Russians be justified in killing, how many women raped, how many children abducted to Russia, for many buildings destroyed?

  248. @Dave Wightman

    Your ‘statement’ assumes facts not in evidence, and therefore the jury is instructed to disregard them. All of them. First, you pretend to be a psychiatrist. Then you pretend to be some sort of schoolteacher, and now you play lawyer? ‘Jack of all trades, master of none’ comes to mind. Not to mention several times now you have sworn not to ever respond to my posts, so you just proved yourself a perjurer, and that means nothing you ever testify to can be considered factual or truthful after your admitted perjury. How does that crow taste, Whizzer?

  249. Cratylus says:
    @Ralph B. Seymour

    It was obviously a joke, a put down of the NYT.
    But the dimwitted are unlikely to get the joke! 😉

  250. bwuce wee says:
    @Dave Wightman

    i watched the vid, best part is when nuland says F*** the EU! her regime change agenda in europe was against the grain of the entire european union(just like it was in the middle east!), but that’s just how we roll in the US state dept!

  251. @Ralph B. Seymour

    And there it is again. Proof that many Americans don’t understand irony (as we in the rest of the English-speaking world believe).

  252. @Wizard of Oz

    The Wizz poses, I think it is fair to say, as a Big Brain. Yet here he is decrying FACTS regarding Nudelman and the fascist putsch in 2014 as ‘fantasies’. And then, be it idiocy, dementia or malignant mendacity (or some combination of these) he peddles straight lies regarding crimes that his beloved Ukronazis have committed, but for which the Russians are, as ever, being falsely accused by Western barbarians, the world champions of atrocities and genocide. But that just makes him pretty typical of the type that has made ‘the West’ an open sewer of every human malignancy known.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  253. @Dave Wightman

    Don’t get too carried away. Some ‘transgender’ children do exist, along with hen’s teeth. And what is so hard about allowing ‘trans-gender’ children to use a ‘unisex’ toilet?

    • Replies: @Dave wightman
  254. @Wizard of Oz

    Yes, ?elensky got 70% of the vote, in part because he promised a rapprochement with the east, and to implement Minsk I and II -remember those? Whether he was lying all along, or not, your Nazi idols swiftly paid him a visit, and promised to hang him from a tree in Kiev if he kept his promise, so he, understandably, reneged, then went on lunatic flights of fancy like declaring a wish to join NATO and obtain nukes. The poor, dumb, cross-dressing fool was set up.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  255. @mulga mumblebrain

    While I appreciate your effort to reach the narcissist in me that a little self reflection must make you think exists what about writing less about me and at least something factual and persuasive about Ukraine and Russia and war?

  256. @Princeone

    That’s the only language they’ll ever understand.

  257. Slav says:
    @Odyssey

    You can’t be a Slav unless you speak Slavic language. This applies to all nations except Jews and Irish, who lost their native tongue. Luther was a German nationalist. He did for Germans what Jan Hus did for Czechs. Translated Latin text to language of common people.

    The Polabian Slavs were not only Serbs, though Serbs are the only ones who survived thanks to their integration into Czech kingdom.

    All lands east of Elbe and some areas west of Elbe were originally Slavic.

  258. Slav says:
    @Herzog

    Sorry, I didn’t intend to use the word genocide in an offensive manner, very distant past anyway. Our nations have common enemy nowadays, Anglo-zionist imperialism and Globalism.

    As for the 19th century, most western Slavs lived in countries ruled by Germans back then, with German as the official language, were subjected to Germanization policies. I think some anti-German sentiment was justified back then, helped to preserve our language and culture.

    After independence of Czechoslovakia, healthy nationalism was replaced by national chauvinism. Which fueled Sudden German support for Hitler. I can condemn that, and their post war expulsion. Though I think demands of their ancestors are unjustified.

    My point in other comment was, Sudden Germans used unscientific theories explaining their ancient origins.

  259. @Wizard of Oz

    Your ‘statement’ assumes facts not in evidence, and therefore the jury is instructed to disregard them. All of them. First, you pretend to be a psychiatrist. Then you pretend to be some sort of schoolteacher, and now you play lawyer? ‘Jack of all trades, master of none’ comes to mind. Not to mention several times now you have sworn not to ever respond to my posts, so you just proved yourself a perjurer, and that means nothing you ever testify to can be considered factual or truthful after your admitted perjury. How does that crow taste, Whizzer?

  260. @neutral

    In one week the message has morphed from “fight and win” to “fight, get a few more acres of territory behind our lines, and be at a respectable position at the negotiations table.”

    How do you not feel terrible for the grunts in the Ukraine army though?

  261. @Dave Wightman

    First off, TRUST THE SCIENCE, there is no unisex- there are 2 sexes. End of that discussion! Second, this crap has been going on for a couple of years so far, and I have yet to see even one girl come out and say- ‘no, I don’t mind DWEEB PERVERT guys in our girl’s restroom’! Third, you think it is OK to withhold funding from schools because they have separate bathrooms for the scientifically defined 2 sexes? Because it seems like a goddamn big government NANNY STATE to me! It is about like your employer saying ‘we are withholding your paycheck this week Mr Mumblebrain because you didn’t wear a dress to work like you were instructed’. But you would say, ‘please sir, I promise to wear the dress from now on’! And that is you in a nutshell! Have a nice day, ma’am.

  262. @mulga mumblebrain

    First off, TRUST THE SCIENCE, there is no unisex- there are 2 sexes. End of that discussion! Second, this crap has been going on for a couple of years so far, and I have yet to see even one girl come out and say- ‘no, I don’t mind DWEEB PERVERT guys in our girl’s restroom’! Third, you think it is OK to withhold funding from schools because they have separate bathrooms for the scientifically defined 2 sexes? Because it seems like a goddamn big government NANNY STATE to me! It is about like your employer saying ‘we are withholding your paycheck this week Mr Mumblebrain because you didn’t wear a dress to work like you were instructed’. But you would say, ‘please sir, I promise to wear the dress from now on’! And that is you in a nutshell! Have a nice day, ma’am.

  263. Michael Korn [AKA "Song Dynasty"] says:

    Excellent article. But I think you are forgetting one factor which is the Catholic neocons. Most of us are familiar with the Jewish neocons but there is a strong Catholic element as well. The Catholic magazine First Things is claimed to be a Catholic version of the Jewish right-wing Commentary. And it always has supported the agenda of the Jewish neocons.

    When Biden was in Rome last fall he had a long meeting with the Pope and certainly they discussed Ukraine. Ukraine has a large Catholic population and the Catholic church has always viewed the Russian Orthodox Church with a mixture of enmity and envy. Putin is exactly the kind of autocratic leader favored by Catholic theologians, who produced the SYLLABUS OF ERRORS back in the 19th century condemning liberal democracies and the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    If the Times (interesting that NYT looks like the Russian word NYET) has changed its tune about Ukraine it can only be because the Catholic establishment — that is very much part of the Times’ hidden power base — has decided that open war against Russia is no longer feasible. At least this is how I see it.

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