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A friend recently observed to me that it is ironic that the neoconservatives, whose bottom line foreign policy issue is the uncritical support of Israel, should be obsessed with constantly confronting and goading Russia even though Tel Aviv and Moscow get along just fine. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has traveled to Russia three times in the past year and he and President Vladimir Putin reportedly understand each other very well.

To be sure, part of the reasoning behind the Israeli offering the hand of friendship is certainly demographic and electoral as many Israelis are Russian in origin and also characteristically strongly support recent right wing governments. They are regarded as essential members of Netanyahu’s coalition, but there is clearly more to it than counting votes.

From the Israeli point of view, Russia, though allied with Syria and friendly with Iran, does not threaten Israel and it also is an available resource to help Tel Aviv develop, refine and market its claimed offshore energy resources. Israel, increasingly isolated because of its repression of the Palestinians, is always eager to make new friends who will help protect it in international fora, witness Netanyahu’s recent charm offensive in Africa.

From the Russian point of view, Israel is a useful friend given its unparalleled access to the U.S. Congress, the White House and the American media. The Netanyahu government also understands Moscow’s concerns about radical Islam in the Arab world and Central Asia and is willing to share information that it obtains to contain the problem. For both Israel and Russia terrorism is not an abstraction – it sits right on and even inside their borders.

Even though Israel is undercutting the neocon plan to isolate and punish Russia at every opportunity people like Bill Kristol, the Kagans and John Bolton make no effort to criticize Netanyahu for his temerity. It is a policy of deliberately looking the other way and it underlines the essential phoniness of what the neoconservatives stand for. To put it bluntly, the neocons claim to support American military dominance globally for altruistic reasons but the reality is that they are largely in it for the money as well as the political and media access to power that money brings with it in contemporary America. What would Sunday morning talk shows be like without a beaming Bill Kristol?

And the cash for the neocons comes mostly from defense contractors who are eager to have a clearly defined serious enemy to boost military spending coupled with an articulate group of pundits who insist on seeing threats worldwide and are willing to promote that viewpoint. Keeping the cash flowing to fund that nice corner office with a view of the Capitol even trumps the Israel relationship but the neocons are careful to make sure the two issues never bump up against each other when they are fulminating against Obama’s national security policies.

We are currently witnessing neocon perfidy at its most refined. They are jumping over themselves to support Hillary Clinton for president in spite of her manifest corruption and unreliability because Donald Trump has threatened to do two things: first he has expressed his unwillingness to enter into new wars in the Middle East or anywhere else and second he has stated that Washington should be even handed when attempting to negotiate peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Both are anathema to the neocons and Trump has further complicated matters by indicating that he would be willing to talk with Vladimir Putin. If Trump were to win, many neocons would likely find themselves having to look for a real job, a terrifying prospect for people with few skills to fall back on.

Hillary Clinton on the other hand will do what is right from the neocon point of view – confronting the world one nation at a time starting with Iran, which she has threatened to “obliterate.” She will also need to boost defense spending to support her wars, will stiff Vlad, and will allow Bibi to move in down the hall at the White House as Bill will often be out on the town and his room in the East Wing is not needed.

Hillary’s bellicosity guarantees that the military industrial complex cash machine will continue to operate full speed, driving scores of leading neocons to announce that they will vote for her. Reuel Marc Gerecht, one of the neocons’ favorite Iran bashers, concluded in an article appearing in a recent issue of the Weekly Standard that Hillary’s “not a neoconservative, but Hillary Clinton isn’t uncomfortable with American power. Unlike Obama, she isn’t the apologetic type. Whatever her opinions were in the Vietnam era, she doesn’t now view the Cold War ambivalently. She’s certain that might married right in that struggle, even in the Third World, where Obama and many on the left have serious doubts.” I’m not completely sure what that pompous bit of prose is supposed to mean but Gerecht in a backhanded fashion also provided what is for me a ringing endorsement of Donald Trump, though he of course meant to do the opposite having stated his intention to vote for Hillary, writing “Trump is probably the most anti-interventionist presidential candidate since Eugene V. Debs, the indefatigable socialist, in 1912.”

The issue of Israel has, of course, been somewhat hidden during the lead-up to the major party nominating conventions, with everyone inevitably expressing his or her deep affection for Netanyahu, but it has surfaced somewhat in the Democratic Party platform deliberations where Cornel West and James Zogby attempted to introduce some language critical of the occupation of the former Palestinian West Bank. They failed in that attempt though it is possible that something similar will be introduced from the floor during the actual convention. It will undoubtedly also fail even if it succeeds as it did in 2012 when the presiding chairman seemed to hear more “yea” votes than anyone else present in the hall.

The Republicans, still firmly under control of the neocon foreign policy clique, have outdone the Democrats. On July 12th the platform committee, with input from Jason Greenblatt and David Friedman, advisers to presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump, approved a plank on Israel that does not accept creation of a Palestinian state at all unless Israel decides to take action to permit that to develop. On that and all other issues there will be “no daylight” between the U.S. and Israel. The subcommittee that drafted the position reportedly approved it by an overwhelming majority followed by a standing ovation.

The document calls Israel a “beacon of democracy and humanity.” It states that “support for Israel is an expression of Americanism” and declares that the U.S. Embassy will be moved to Jerusalem. It denies that Israel is an “occupier,” and calls for legislation to combat the “anti-Semitic” Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement. The plank could have been written by Netanyahu’s Foreign Ministry or perhaps by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and basically cedes to Israel control over the direction of U.S. foreign policy in a critical and unstable region.

And there has been additional activity in Congress lately regarding Iran, with a large sale of Boeing jets being blocked and three additional bills submitted for consideration that will punish that country by, among other steps, denying it access to international finance. Indeed, the unrelenting neocon hostility towards Iran is a subset of the pro-Israel bias as Tehran is perceived as a problem for Tel Aviv while the arguments made to suggest that Iran threatens Europe and the United States lack any plausibility.

The creation of enemies unnecessarily, as applied to both Iran and Russia, is a symptom of the neoconservative disease. It is a pointless search for full spectrum military dominance that panders to an inchoate fear that the U.S. is surrounded by foes that can only be dealt with by decisive kinetic action which will require large defense budgets. Today’s neo-conservatism is a movement born from a curious amalgam of interests that have come together at a time when the United States is in reality militarily unchallenged worldwide and is threatened neither by any other country nor by the pinpricks inflicted by terrorists. Neocons and their associated liberal interventionists have to an extent dominated the foreign and defense policy thinking of the two major parties and most of the media but their message is ultimately based on emphasizing national insecurity, which in the current context is somewhat inexplicable. The United States has never been more secure internationally, if not domestically, and the only problems it is confronting are themselves part and parcel of the imbroglios that have been engineered by the interventionists and their friends. Speculation is that a Trump victory will actually end their dominance. If that is so, it might just be sufficient reason to vote for Donald Trump.

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  1. The Hebrews weren’t Jewish.
    Just like when any other group of people take over they sometimes assume the identity of those who came before them for one reason or another.
    Mamnet was thrown out the window.
    Jesus and his people, along with Moses owned the land. We’re white too. Their daddy was heaven white. Heaven was a place on the horizon where the star shown.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  2. The US Republican Party has promised to abolish the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act that was passed to regulate Wall Street, the party’s official platform stated.

    Ah, those still-too-strictly-regulated financial markets…

    Speculation is that a Trump victory will actually end their dominance. If that is so, it might just be sufficient reason to vote for Donald Trump.

    As somebody wrote, it’ll take somebody far more familiar with politics and aastute to do what Trump promised. A “fascist”, they wrote.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    , @Wayne Pacific
  3. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    Giuliani’s Neocon BS about Islamic Terrorism and Iran is sickening.

    One good thing about such rhetoric is it creates a War of Civilization scenario, and that makes it more difficult for US to mess up the Middle East.

    If US declares war on Islam, even Saudis couldn’t work with the US.

  4. To put it bluntly, the neocons claim to support American military dominance globally for altruistic reasons but the reality is that they are largely in it for the money as well as the political and media access to power that money brings with it in contemporary America.

    The reality is that the neocons are in it for Israel.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  5. Junior [AKA "Jr."] says:

    What would Sunday morning talk shows be like without a beaming Bill Kristol?

    If Trump were to win, many neocons would likely find themselves having to look for a real job, a terrifying prospect for people with few skills to fall back on.

    She will also need to boost defense spending to support her wars, will stiff Vlad, and will allow Bibi to move in down the hall at the White House as Bill will often be out on the town and his room in the East Wing is not needed.

    I’m not completely sure what that pompous bit of prose is supposed to mean but Gerecht in a backhanded fashion also provided what is for me a ringing endorsement of Donald Trump

    Absolutely great article with some HILARIOUS laugh-out-loud moments. Kudos!

  6. Parsifal says:

    Call me naive, but I think even Bibi has seen the light and now believes that neocons are plain nuts.

  7. Strange how right you are about Republicans and how wrong about Democrats.

    • Replies: @Santoculto
  8. Dopey braindead Americans allow the farce to go on. Without that key factor, the yids would fall flat. Control of media is essential, and they have it.

  9. Rehmat says:

    Soviet Russia had always been Israel’s best friend. Israel’s first president Dr. Chaim Wiezman was leader of Russian Socialist Party. There are over million Russian Jews living over land stolen from Palestinians, including the current defense minister Avigdor Lieberman. Moscow recognized the Jewish occupation of Palestine on May 14, 1948 – just two hours after US president Truman blessed the occupation.

    Benjamin Netanyahu has been the most frequent visitor to Moscow. He met Putin four times in Moscow during the last 18 months. Putin has always asserted that Zionist occupation of Palestine has “the rights to exist”.

    During their recent meeting to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Moscow-Tel Aviv marriage – Putin gifted Netanyahu one of the two Israeli tanks captured by Syrian forces on June 11, 1982 at the Battle of Sultan Yacoub in Lebanon.


  10. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Seamus Padraig

    The reality is that the neocons are in it for Israel.

    Not only, albeit Israel is by far the most important factor in neocon considerations. As Phil correctly states:

    many neocons would likely find themselves having to look for a real job, a terrifying prospect for people with few skills to fall back on.

    Where else, in what country will this collection of incompetent hacks be allowed to influence policy and even “steer” a military? Egos larger than cathedrals (c) are a big part in all of that.

  11. Avery says:

    {There are over million Russian Jews living over land stolen from Palestinians}

    100s of millions of Muslims live on lands stolen from Christians.
    After murdering 10s of millions of indigenous Christians and/or forcibly Islamizing them on pain of death.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  12. Another fine article full of pertinent info.

    “Nearly a year after the Iran deal passed, it is still in treacherous waters. Hardliners in the American power structure want to capsize the deal. They include neoconservatives inside the Beltway who have the ear of administration officials, the Israel lobby, and Hillary Clinton’s braintrust too. And it’s all happening in plain sight. Because the mainstream press doesn’t care to hold these folks to account. ”

    – See more at:

  13. schmenz says:

    My respect for old Vlad really drops when I see him smile at that murderous little snake Netanyahu. I had hoped he had higher ideals. Obviously I don’t know what is going through his mind and I certainly am not privy to diplomatic secrets but I still cannot fathom why he would even want to be near such a man.

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    , @Quartermaster
  14. Did I somehow just wake up and find that this is April Fool’s Day yet again. That would explain the gist of this article.

    Is the author of this article actually claiming that some sort of daylight actually now exists between the Neocons and the Israeli government. That is simply ridiculous because the Neocons are required to supply slavish support of the Israeli government in order to retain their all important access to the mainstream media. If they were in fact to cross the Israelis and their lobby in any way they would be immediately Sobran-ized. Kristol and Krauthammer would instantly become non-persons just like Norman Finkelstein or Gilad Atzmon.

    Any seeming rapprochement between Putin and Netanyahu should be treated the same way we now treat the smiling photographs that were taken of Hitler and Stalin together in the late 1930s at the same time both were supporting opposing sides of the civil war in Spain: shams.

    Putin knows full well that Israel is supporting ISIS in its attempts to overthrow the government of Assad in Syria . He knows that Israel supplies arms and logistical support to the rebels through its ally Turkey. Putin knows that Israel supplies medical crews to treat wounded ISIS soldiers. He also know that the US supports the attempts to overthrow Assad only because of pressure by the Israel Lobby.

    Putin also know that Israel is a significant factor in the push for continuing the economic sanctions against his country. If Israel were really trying to improve its relations with Russia it would use its domination of the mainstream media in the USA and Europe to call for their end. Instead, the media is as hostile towards Russia as ever as we are now witnessing in its active support of the further humiliation of Russia by excluding it from the Olympics. This is a repeat of the pettiness exhibited by the media when it repeatedly attempted to sabotage Russia’s hosting of the recent Winter Olympics.

  15. LondonBob says:

    A commitment, of course just a commitment, to reintroduce Glass-Steagal was added to the Republican official platform at Trump’s behest. Glass-Steagal is far superior to Frank-Dodd, which does a lot of harm for what little good it does.

  16. TJM says:

    You know how you KNOW Zionist Jews run the media, because you NEVER see/hear stories about Israel, beyond those that are flattering to Israel.

    Its like Illegal immigration, the Zionist want America’s (and Europe’s) borders wide open, so you never get a real critique of what mass migration does to a nation, socially, economically. The unimaginably hypocritical hypocrisy of Zionists Jews is never pointed out. If Americas or Europeans question open borders they are called “racists xenophobes”, like when Trump said to build a wall, yet Israel builds walls all the time, and it is totally justified in the MSM and by their sycophants in Washington.

    The double standards runs throughout our media and society, and exemplifies the underlying theme that Jews are exceptional, the rules don’t apply to them, they are above reproach, and you see they have injected that same “exceptionalism” into America, making us hated as well.

  17. Sherman says:

    “Language critical of the occupation of the former Palestinian West Bank”.

    Last time I checked the history books the West Bank was occupied by Jordan before Israel captured this territory in 1967.

    Prior to Jordan occupying the WB it was part of the British Mandate.

    Prior to the British Mandate it was part of the Ottoman Empire.

    Come to think of it, the land was never actually under the rule of any Palestinian people. I’m not sure how it can be called “former Palestinian West Bank”.

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @Art
    , @Carroll Price
  18. Rurik says:

    Great article

    the neoconservatives, whose bottom line foreign policy issue is the uncritical support of Israel, should be obsessed with constantly confronting and goading Russia even though Tel Aviv and Moscow get along just fine.

    pure realpolitik and statecraft

    that picture of Vlad and Bibi represents the two most powerful men on the world’s stage who also actually represent their respective nations and people.

    Obama and Merkel and all the other stooges in the West are quislings being told what to do by the banking cartels (Rothschild dominated oligarchs) who run the Western world.

    But Vlad and Bibi represent their nations and people. (even if Bibi is yet a stooge to the Orthodox rabbis in the Knesset)

    So seeing those two guys together (unlike the puppets of the West) is seeing real power personified. And they are at odds, make no mistake.

    What’s going on, and has been going on, (as we all know ; ) is Obama (and Bush before him) and the other puppets of the West/NATO are destroying nation-states that are inconvenient to Ersatz Israel. Duh. But when it came to Syria, then they messed with Russia’s vital interests, and got slapped down. That is why they’re in Ukraine today as punishment for Vlad’s interference. That is why there are sanctions and the hysterical circus about how ‘Putin shot down the plane’. It’s probably why there is the hysteria about Russian athletes doping. They’re doing all they can to apply pressure to get Vlad to allow them to remove Asssad so they can rip Syria apart. Turkey is central to all of this as NATO’s little ass-licker and is being promised oil-rich lands in former Iraq and Syria.

    Now, what I suspect the conversations between Bibi and Vlad are like are this:

    ‘OK Vlad, (may I call you Vlad? No?) Ok Vladimir, I’ll tell you what.. You let us remove Assad and we’ll not only let you keep your naval base at Tartus, but we’ll give you Latakia too! You can have a sort of Kaliningrad on the Med!

    And then Vlad does his best to make Bibi think that he too is a soulless rat who treats other people’s nations and lives like so many coins on the money changers table to be haggled over like cheap rugs.

    “I just don’ know Bibi, I’ll have to take it up with the Duma.. You know, and the oligarchs and such..’

    – then bibi’s thinking ‘you rotten motherfucker, I know you can make this happen’

    but he says, ‘OK Vladimir, if you think so. But I’m authorized by my masters in the Knesset – and willing – to personally get down on my knees and lick your balls if that would help’

    ‘well bibi, I appreciate that, make no mistake. But I really must discuss this with Lavrov’

    So Bibi walks away dejected yet again. Knowing that Vlad and Sergey are going t0 have a laugh.

    and he picks up the phone on his diplomatic jet back to Tel Aviv and red-faced with rage, barks orders to Obama to bomb another Russian jet.

    such is geo-politics today

    • Agree: edNels, Carroll Price
    • Replies: @TJM
  19. TJM says:

    Many may dismiss the idea that Jews basically run America, I mean it sounds crazy, how can it possibly be true. And that is precisely how they control you, the idea that 2% of the population controls a vast nation like America?
    Yet, if you look past the duplicitous media, past the selfish corrupt politicians, and look at America from a distance, you would think of course Jews run America how else could you explain the obscene hypocrisy all around us, how else could you explain the fact that the US government does NOTHING that the people actually want it to do.
    Last year Congress was cutting the funding for rescue helicopters on the West Coast used by the Coast Guard to rescue ships in destress, most often fishermen. The cuts would double the time it would take for rescues. The money Congress was looking to save $3,000,000.00. That SAME week Congress passed a bill authorizing the US pay to replace ISREAL’S rockets it had used fighting its neighbors (that is a very kind way of depicting what they were/are actually doing), the cost $225,000.000.00. So we see who “our” elected officials truly serve. This outrage is repeated a million times a year, below the radar, something the Zionist media would never cover. Now the Congress/Obama are working on an “AID package” for Israel, some $35,000,000,000.00, and what do we get out of the deal? AID, Israel is a rich nation which benefits greatly from favorable trade deals created to benefit it over those they trade with, as well as money from loyal Zionists around the world (but mostly America). The war monger B. Netanyahu comes before Congress, after leading us into a war with Iraq and trying to push us into a war with Iran (You are the great Satan and we are the little Satan”, we are the great Satan BECAUSE we support Israel!), to a standing ovation, that lasted too long, even for most Zionist in the media.
    But the greatest feat of all is no one questions this money, no one stands up and says NO, because if they do they will be destroyed, in more ways than one, and the American people will do little to support someone who does question this one-sided relationship, though this does seem to be changing.

    The point is, you don’t get this kind of a control over a nation with just money, political donations, no, this takes organization, ruthless focus and a true distain for the people you are controlling and manipulating.

    They own Hollywood, Wall Street, Entertainment, MSM, this is indisputable. Just ask pool Hellen Thomas, she dared state the obvious that Israel should get the hell out of Palestine. She was not working or being paid when she said the comment, but it was enough to destroy her carrier. Ask Mel Gibson, he had a weak moment of honesty and said Jews were responsible for all of the wars, maybe a stretch, maybe not, but you won’t see him working in Hollywood anymore. In fact, they went after him and painted him insane. They had to destroy his gravitas, could not have idiot America waking up to the evils of Zionist Jews.

    We have been conditioned for decades to be the lap dogs we are, but the internet is changing that, question is, how long will they let us continue to use it????

  20. alexander says:

    I think, Sherman, the point of the statement is to signal the final death blow to the existence of a viable Palestinian state.

    The use of the word “former” in this case, does not refer to history, or the previous occupations the Palestinian people endured ,but rather to signal the triumph of a greater Israel and the extermination of Palestine as a viable state , forever.

    This represents concrete “progress” , within the GOP, for the Neocons , as the old guard republicans(Jim Baker, George Bush Sr, etc) were adamantly opposed to settlement expansion in the West Bank.

    So what you have is the politicization of the extermination of the state of Palestine within the GOP rank and file.

    And with that, one of the supreme hypocrisies in all of American history, being carried out, right in front of our noses, on the GOP convention floor.

    Whereas,for the Nazis to have exterminated the Jews, steal their homes, land, and property is universally recognized as the Holocaust and one of the supreme evils of western civilization….

    For Israel, to exterminate Palestine(as a state), steal the homes ,land and property of the people who reside there, is not only acceptable, it is written into the very GOP party platform .

    So much for moral consistency.

  21. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Moscow recognized the Jewish occupation of Palestine on May 14, 1948 – just two hours after US president Truman blessed the occupation.


    There are over million Russian Jews living over land stolen from Palestinians

    In their attempt to rid themselves of the pernicious affects of Jewish dominance over their culture the German people lost their state, their history, their culture and millions of their own sons and daughters.

    The Russians achieved removal of Jews at the expense of Germans, and Palestinians.

    Obviously I don’t know what is going through [Putin’s] mind . . . [when he] smile[s] at that murderous little snake Netanyahu.

    He’s thinking, keep them over there so we don’t have to put up with them over here.

  22. TJM says:

    Very well said, great analysis, you should write an article!

    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @Rurik
  23. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    u mean bibi has seen the putin

  24. LondonBob says:

    Trump also had the delegates remove the arm Ukraine stuff from the RNC platform. Pleased he didn’t pick Adelson’s boy Gingrich as his VP as well.

  25. RobinG says:

    Last night, Michael Flynn said that “the destructive pattern of putting the interests of other nations ahead of our own will end.”

    Could he have meant ISRAEL ?

    • Replies: @hbm
  26. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Catholics and Protestants may disagree on many things, but they are 100% agreed on one thing. Glory of God. They may serve Him differently, but they are both all about serving God.

    Democrats and Republicans disagree on many things, but they are 100% agreed on one thing. Glory of Jews and Israel. They may serve Jews and Israel differently, but both are all about serving Zion.

    Jewish Power is the god of American politics. You can disagree on many things but not on the issue of Jewish Glory.

  27. Susetta says:

    The goal is full-spectrum dominance, and not for Americans themselves “to enjoy”, (as Americans have not been in charge of their own government for a good while), but for the globalists, — towards the goal of a global government. This IS NOT therefore, a merely neo-con project (democrats, republicans and those in between are part of it) — the better moniker for them would be NEOLIBERALISTS)

    This global tyranny, or Global Domination, is not possible if there are “hold-outs” such as Syria, Russia, Iran, China and North Korea. These have to “be brought into the fold”, so to speak. And toward that end, the West will create mayhem and War everywhere, until it has accomplished this. This plan has been on a “time-clock” for implementation, and these globalists are a little late in the execution of their plans.

    This is not about the United States, per sea. This is about a sizable cadre of people who have infiltrated the United States government, (much as a virus – this is why the Host is not important to them — it is just a means to be used toward the end of total global domination), and subsequently the rest of the World as a consequence, in order to arrest control of the whole world.

    Toward this end, instability will be spread everywhere (the goal is not to win wars, but to weaken everyone by engineering mayhem everywhere, — in a stealth manner, of course) the collapse of the World Economy will be engineered, Hybrid Warfare will be used – read about it on

    Israel is to not the goal, it just happens to be at the intersection of the designs of its most powerful backer — the Rothschilds, and currently the OWNER of much of the already “conquered world” — The West — as well as of those other countries in South America, Africa and Asia who have been either “bamboozled”, or submitted “into the fold”.

    We live in dangerous times, and this is about to be fully visible quite soon.

    I also would recommend the following sites, in order that the fuller “birds-eye” picture of what actually is taking place may be apprehended — or better said, for a systems approach at apprehending the “big-picture”:

    http://www. – great for actual news on Syria, Russia, and a bit on the US – great for news on the Middle East – great for analysis of “American” foreign policy. – very well rounded – on a wide scope of subject matter. – with an European slant – absolutely scrupulous reporting with no fear of tackling ANYTHING – all kinds of subject matter, from the conventional to the hardly ever heard of (because it has not be tackled and reported by most) – with a slant towards England and Europe -very focused on electronic radiation, DARPA and the like.

    All the best, to you, and everyone.

  28. hbm says:

    Don’t know but his speech was positively schizophrenic last night, and larded with lots of Neoconisms like “American Exceptionalism” and “New American Century” and a jingoistic fervor for “winning the war of Terror” alongside a vague sense of being generally opposed to interventionism– and lines like your quote, too, which may hint at what you suggest.

    He’s a hard one to figure out. Was it calculated to appear more Neocon? Was it his speechwriter? I almost get the feeling that his instincts are right but he’s still open to influence from the Neocon crowd, e.g., his co-author Ledeen. Or maybe his desire to take-on ISIS has a large personal component, but he’s otherwise for disengagement from the Middle East. It’s hard for me to imagine that the guy was head of DIA and doesn’t know the real score on our Greatest Ally, yet he sounds like a real hawk sometimes. I don’t think the phrase “America First” was uttered all night.

    Did Larry Summers and the Oligarchs loot Russia for the “Military-Industrial Complex”? These folks have an ethnomythological beef with Russia, and it tickles their collective psyches in just the right spot when they can load-up on the spoils of Babylon. Russia stands in the way of their globalist designs– of all Jews, even the ones in Israel– since Putin-Hitler is not their puppet and therefore must be replaced in a war that they will agitate into being and that others will fight, as always. The disparity between Diaspora Jews and Israelis is an illusion.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @FLgeezer
  29. “his intention to vote for Hillary, writing ‘Trump is probably the most anti-interventionist presidential candidate since Eugene V. Debs, the indefatigable socialist, in 1912.’”

    I’m no socialist, but with historical 20/20 hindsight, Debs was absolutely right. All the consequent woes from that destructive futility, proves it really was “the War to begin all Wars.” It’s a hundred years of bad policy that it’s time to reverse.

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    , @Carroll Price
  30. @schmenz

    Delusions die hard. If Putin is involved, there’s something there for him. Putin is restless, as is the mafia state he heads, and that’s why Putin’s neighbors are nervous.

    Putin is the problem in Russia. When he goes, things in the former Soviet Space will clam down for awhile.

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    , @schmenz
    , @Hunsdon
  31. Art says:

    Look at those two happy faces shacking hands – they just mad a deal – Mid January 2017 Putin does a false flag operation putting President Trump behind the eight ball – Netanyahu deposits a billion dollars in a Goldman Sachs Switzerland bank (congress will compensate him).

    p.s. IF Hillary steals the election Goldman Sachs will notify her through normal channels.

  32. TrueBlue says:

    “Putin has always asserted that Zionist occupation of Palestine has “the rights to exist”.

    Can you please provide a link confirming the above assertion, you claim President Putin to have made. Thank you.

  33. The Media Indictment of Trump as an anti-Semite

    Above article was mentioned in following radio show last Sunday about neocon darling Hillary Clinton and Trump too:

  34. @Parsifal

    What makes you think that?

    • Replies: @Parsifal
  35. utu says:

    The first real decision Tump had to make he blew it. He seem to know he made mistake but it’s too late. He has to live with the most mediocre super cuck VP. Is it foreshadowing for his future decisions and display of his alleged skills?

    Would it be possible to convince Pence to get sick and withdraw?

  36. Israel is trying to convince itself that it has other options than the West, so it and its supporters make a big deal out of their supposedly close relations with Russia (and China to a lesser extent.) The main reason that Russia and China are willing to go along is that they both understand (though are no doubt bemused by) the power of political Jewry in the US and by extension in the West. Playing up to world Jewry makes sense for both of them, as they try to build/rebuild their power. Since Jews are able to wield the power of the American golem-state against their enemies real and perceived, the Russians and Chinese have every reason to coddle Israel’s (and Jew’s) sense of their own world-historical importance. If that means a temporary agreement over Syria (or at least Hezbollah) by Russia or Chinese funding for a rail link from Eilat to the Med, well, those are small prices to pay.

    Of course, this need to curry favor with Israel/organized Jewry won’t go on forever. The more sustained Chinese global power is, the less it has to fear from US attempts to “strangle it in the crib,” and consequently the less it needs to assuage Jewish sensibilities.

    Currently, the is a split over Russia within Jewish neoconservatism. Phil Giraldi uses the word skizophrenia , which is exactly right. The traditional Jewish attitude to Russia and the Russian state is one of deep hostility. But the emerging, if temporary, linkage between Russia and Israel has driven the emergence of a pro-Russia tendency within the spectrum of Jewish politics from traditional leftism to neoconservatism. It’s a minority view but a not insignificant one.

  37. alexander says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Could not agree with you more, Fran.

    But one does not have to be an “indefatigable socialist” to be opposed to wars of aggression, just a constitutional-ist and a decent human being.

    As a matter of fact, sticking to our (pre-9-11) constitutional mandate on war (invasion or insurrection) would have saved the world a boat load of grief, death, and destruction, and the US taxpayer tens of trillions of dollars.

    Our neocon driven policies have destroyed the lives of tens of millions of people who never did anything to us, and have wreaked absolute havoc on our nations balance sheet in the process.

    One need not be affiliated with any political party, or persuasion to find this utterly unconscionable and thoroughly reprehensible.

    Because it is.

  38. Rurik says:

    thanks TJM

    I just like to humbly tell the truth in the back ground, and I’m convinced I’m motivated by the same simple decency that you are as well

    it is incomprehensible what we’ve all allowed to happen to our beloved country, and how it’s been turned into a vicious fiend on the world’s stage with a psychopath holding the leash- like a Michael Vick, forcing us to savage others for the fun of watching the flesh torn and the blood flow

    it’s like a Passover every single day!

    at least I see SC ‘doth protest’


    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @tbraton
  39. 5371 says:

    Enough neocon talking points, idiot. Get back to your end-time prophecies.

  40. Rehmat says:

    Which Christian lands were stolen by Muslims from your Jewish ancestors?

    Muslim ruled Spain (850 years), India (1,000 years), Greece (350 years), Malta (220 years), and Sicily (140 years) – but they had always been in minority – why? Because they favored unfaithful Jews over Christians.

    Spanish Muslims ruled the Mediterranean Christian island of Malta from 870 to 1091 CE. The Normans took the island from Muslims but allowed them to remain subjects of the new rulers, and Arabic became their common language. In 1224 Frederick II, responding to religious uprisings in Sicily, expelled all Muslims from the island. During the reign of Charles II of Naples (1254-1309) the Muslim inhabitants were exiled or sold into slavery, with many finding asylum in Albania. All mosques were destroyed or converted to churches.

    In 869 CE, Ahmad bin Umar, an Arab North African Muslim prince, occupied Malta for a short period before his forces were expelled. Next year a larger Muslim army under the command of Muhammad ibn Hafagab, the Arab Governor of Islamic State of Sicily invaded island of Malta at the request of its Catholic inhabitants who were sick of Christian Byzantine occupation of their homeland.

    Maxime Robinson (died 2004), a French Marxist author of several critical books on Islam, in his book The Arabs, claimed that the current Maltese, being descendants of Arabs, are Semite people. His article Israël, fait colonial? (Israel: a colonial reality?), published in the special issue of Les Temps Modernes devoted to the debate sparked by the June 1967 war, was an essential contribution to defining a critique of Zionism from the left.

    The 220-year of Muslim rule left a lasting effect on the country’s way of life. In this period of Malta’s history, the islands known under three names: Malitah – the island’s Roman name – Ghawdex and Chemmuna, enjoyed an unparalleled age of economic affluence, becoming a land of freedom and prosperity for the rest of Europe passing through its Dark Age.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Avery
    , @Seraphim
  41. Rehmat says:

    Sorry darling – you cannot fool me by quoting Zionist Jewish sources.

    While all leaders of the Christian Western world need Jewish support for their political survival – in Russia, it’s the Jewish community that needs Vladimir Putin for its survival.

    Last year, Rabbi Aleksandr Boroda, president of Russian Federation of Jewish communities, told 1400 Jewish delegates attending an annual religious conference that if Putin is ever removed from power, Russian Jews will be facing serious danger.

    Rabbi’s statement goes against the rest of world Organized Jewry that has used every possible way to demean Putin regime from its anti-gay policy to the Ukraine conflict.

    Since its failed regime change in Georgia in 2008 to blackmail Russia over Iran – Israel has avoided to take side with its western allies against Russia. Why? Because Israel may someday need a powerful Russia as its ally in case dumped by the United States – a remote chance at the moment but could happen as the new generation of Americans are getting sick of their government’s blind financial, military and moral support to the Zionist entity.

    Historically, it was the Jew-controlled Soviet regime which supported the idea of a socialist ally state in Palestine. Israel’s first president Dr. Chaim Weizmann was leader of Soviet Socialist Party.

    • Replies: @Marcus
  42. schmenz says:

    Alas, Quartermaster, I cannot agree with your view on Mr Putin.

  43. Avery says:

    {Which Christian lands were stolen by Muslims from your Jewish ancestors?}

    Let’s start with the Armenian Highlands and Asia Minor.

    Invadonomad Turkic tribes from Uyguristan stole the lands of my Armenian ancestors.
    Also the lands of Assyrians and Pontic Greeks.
    All Christian lands before savage nomad Muslim Turks invaded, ethnically cleansed the indigenous peoples, forcibly Turkified and Islamized those whom they did not massacre, stole 100s of 1000s of our children, and finally committed genocide of millions of Armenian, Assyrian, and Pontic Greek Christians.

    Any other questions?
    And why are you still squatting in Christian Canada, you IslamoFascist parasite?

    • Replies: @TJM
    , @Rehmat
  44. What Jesse Ventura mentioned about Trump assassination (to get in neocon establishment lackey Mike Pence as president) in following youtube was most concerning if Trump gets elected:

    PS: Jesse mentioned corporate money but was too afraid to mention Jewish donor money (like from Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban with ‘crooked Hillary’).

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Good article though it begs for a bit more consistency. To wit: is or is not Trump going to be non-interventionist? Everyone here knows the good things about Trump – most notably his patriotic revival of America First. But he also says Israel has no better ally, and to ally with a war-mongering state is to get as far from non-interventionist intentions as possible. And to ally with the state that spies on us, kills our sailors, corrupts our Congress, fleeces our taxpayers, and uses its traitors to push us into its wars falls short of both America First and basic sanity.

    Just last night, Rudy had the RNC crowd going nicely until his neo-con burka slipped, and he intimated the need for war on Iran. Happily, the delegates booed, so Trump can be credited with drawing some true American Firsters into the process. But why did Trump sign off on such a terrible remark?

    Trump can’t be both America First and pro-Israel. He’s either deceiving the supporters of the USS Liberty or the supporters of Jonathon Pollard.

    • Replies: @tbraton
  46. Avery says:

    “Muslim rule…. unparalleled age of economic affluence…..blah, blah… land of freedom….blah,blah….prosperity….blah, blah….”

    Is that why you fled your native Islamistan Pakistan and are presently squatting in Christian Canada?
    Is that why millions of desperate Muslims are literally risking death to reach and get asylum in Christian Europe instead of heading to one of those economic affluence….. land of freedom……prosperity…… Muslim countries like, you know, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia,…..?

    • Replies: @5371
  47. Wally says: • Website

    Schizohrenia from neo-Cons:

    They’ll change their stripes in a heartbeat if it favors and promotes dangerous & violent Jewish supremacism.

    They turn Left at one moment, turn Right at another. Whatever it takes to keep the preferential treatment coming and the cash flowing in.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    Zionist attempt to control language:
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY

    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses

    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media

    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

  48. TJM says:

    Idiotic post:

    WE ARE NOT TALKING ANCIENT HISTORY, nor are we talking about some distant land, we are talking about Zionist Jews using MY FUCKING TAX DOLLARS, RIGHT NOW, TO STEAL LAND AND KILL PALESTINIANS!

    History is subjective as anyone who has taken American History through the eyes of the Zionist Jews can tell you. Jews are notably missing from issues about slavery, war and criminality, but they are more than happy to point out European and Christian crimes. Only after reading online did I learn the depth to which the Jews were involved in the slave trade.

    As history IS subjective, today’s events are not so easily controlled, but the Zionists do try. We all know what is going on in Gaza, and we all know America is bank rolling and providing cover internationally for these evil acts. So, I see Muslims as my brothers as they are fighting the same evil that currently is destroying the Middle East, Europe and certainly America; Zionism.

    • Replies: @Avery
  49. Avery says:

    {Idiotic post:

    WE …… Zionism.}

    If you know you are going to write an idiotic post, why bother writing it?
    On the other hand, it was very nice of you warn readers that your post is idiotic, so they could skip reading it through and not waste their time.
    Which I did.
    Thank you kindly.

    • Replies: @Wally
  50. Svigor says:

    The Neocon hatred for Trump is tribal and instinctive – he’s not bought and paid for. Neocons are also open-borders fanatics, but almost all anti-war fanatics ignore that, because it doesn’t play well with their left/libertarian wing, who are just as fanatically open-borders.

    This is why I keep my distance from the anti-war types; most of them don’t seem to care if the west is destroyed. Their motives don’t seem to spring from concern over what’s best for the west.

    Anti-war types are useful, in that they criticize the establishment in general, and the neocons in particular, but that’s about the extent of it.

    Not sure how much of this is true of Giraldi, but I can’t recall any contradictory facts.

  51. The historic connection between todays jews and the Russian nation is one of death and wars. Now for the two to join in the destruction of the United States continues the historic jewish plans.

  52. Marcus says:

    I agree that Putin has good relations with Israel and Russian Jews (especially Chabad), but he’s done a lot more for Muslims by building thousands of mosques and importing millions of Muslim immigrants, it’s not called Moskvabad now for nothing.

  53. Seraphim says:
    @Jane Claire

    Jews were just a subset of the Hebrews, or the House of Israel, from which they cut themselves out. The ‘Jews’ of the time of Christ were Edomites, subdued and forcibly circumcised by the Hasmoneans:
    “Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans; and permitted them to stay in that country; if they would circumcise their genitals, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the land of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision, and of the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time this therefore befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews.” (Jewish antiquities, Book 13, 9:1).
    The Jews of today are the result of successive waves of conversion (Khazars, Yemeni ‘Jews’) to “Judaism”, of which a no lesser authority like Rabbi Stephen Wise said it was brought from Babylon by the returning Jews. In his own words: “This was the end of Hebraism, and the beginning of Judaism”.
    Christianity is not an offshoot of “Judaism” (it is actually opposed to it) but of ‘Hebraism’. The term of Judeo-Christianity is deliberately misleading.

    • Replies: @5371
  54. Seraphim says:

    @Which Christian lands were stolen by Muslims from your Jewish ancestors?

    First one is… Palestine. Then Syria, then Egypt… then…

  55. Wally says: • Website

    Avery, TJM has you.

    Black researcher, Dr. Tony Martin, let’s us know who the prime owners of slaves really were, Jews.
    Suppressing Jewry’s Role in Slavery / Familiar Tactics
    Dr. Tony Martin – The Jewish Role in the African Slave Trade

  56. Karl says:

    >> I think even Bibi has seen the light and now believes that neocons are plain nuts

    since the beginning of time, the Hebrew security organs have had a higher esteem for the Circassians and the Druze, than for armchair-zionist-activists like American Jewish Neocons.

    The latter group is allowed to receive accolades, medals,& opportunities to give graduation-speeches at foreigner-catering hipster-schools (eg, IDC in Hertliya).

    They are NOT allowed to decide where this or that checkpoint is located.

  57. @Wally

    Haven’t you been telling everyone here that black people have low IQs? If so, why do you trust Tony Martin?

  58. @Rurik

    at least I see SC ‘doth protest’

    Rurik, that comment was great — but not completely accurate.

    You wrote:

    Bibi is yet a stooge to the Orthodox rabbis in the Knesset

    I admit that I don’t know much about power politics in the Knesset, but I don’t think Bibi is anybody’s stooge, and I think it’s important to understand how central the Netanyahu (Milikovsky) family has been to the murderous direction the zionist project has taken, as well as to the deep entanglement of zionists in US foreign, domestic, and electoral politics.

    The Republican platform has gone further than ever before in defending Israel and defaming Palestinians. Democrats will likely play “see you and raise.”

    So it’s significant to know that it was Benzion Netanyahu, Bibi’s father, who first schemed to insert the issue of US support for Israel in American presidential politics via party platforms, and to do so specifically by playing one party against the other:

    “In the early 1940s, Benzion Netanyahu met with members of Congress and other political players to solicit American support for Jewish causes, including the creation of a Jewish state. He became such an important figure on Capitol Hill that in helping to draft the Republican political platform in the 1944 presidential campaign, he forced the other party—the one led by FDR—to match it and thereby created a bipartisan consensus on what was at the time called the “Palestine issue.” ”

    [see also “Benjamin Netanyahu’s upcoming Congressional address is not without direct familial precedent. The prime minister’s father also looked to the U.S. Congress in his attempt to mobilize support for Zionism in the 1940s.”]

    sorry to be a nit-picker. You write great stuff, Rurik; by getting a few niggling details more accurate, your arguments are irrefutable; dynamite.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  59. Art says:

    Last time I checked the history books the West Bank was occupied by Jordan before Israel captured this territory in 1967.

    Prior to Jordan occupying the WB it was part of the British Mandate.

    Prior to the British Mandate it was part of the Ottoman Empire.

    Hi Sherm,

    Shish – quite – let’s whisper – let’s not tell everyone about your great Jew shame.

    First there was a land (not a nation) called Palestine. I have a 1910 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (perhaps the greatest collection of knowledge ever). It has 25 pages of writing about Palestine. Few ME lands were what we now call nations.

    It is true Palestine was ruled by different authorizes for 2,000 years. Palestinian families lived there in relative peace and maintained property there for all that time. Rulers came and went – but property was honored.

    Here comes you shame Jew – Palestinians lived there for 2,000 years until you Jews came on the scene. Then you pushed them out and stole their homes.

    What you started with that crime has led to 9/11 and now ISIS – Shame on the Jew.


    p.s. I don’t think you Jews have the intelligence to seek peace.

  60. The US-Israel Axis of Diversity.

    1. US-Israel both are national democracies with no actual constitutional limits on their national government law making power.

    2. US-Israel are dominated by an ultra-large anti-white-straight-Christian-male victim cult.

    3. US-Israel define a Nazi profile as being white-straight-Christian-independent-armed-nonsocialist-male

    4. US-Israel have 2-party systems that dominate national politics

    5. US Republicans = conservative Judaism = Israeli Likud Party

    6. US Democrats = secular Judaism = Israeli Labor Party

    7. US-Israel have a super-majority of protected class voters, people demanding and receiving thousands of government privileges by law in exchange for their votes.

    8. US-Israel are fascist and aggressive proponents of the American-Israeli vicitm class supremacy scheme in the world

    9. US-Israel coodinate their attacks and sabotage of Israeli enemies in the middle east

    10. US-Israel coordinate their black operations

    11. US-Israel share military technology and intelligence

    12. US-Israel are international pariah states for the same reasons

    13. US-Israel have biased immigration policy in favor of victim cult people.

    14. US-Israel cover for each others transgressions in the UN

    15. US-Israel military and foreign aid agreements are heavily biased toward Israeli enrichment

    16. US-Israel relationship is so perverse that Israel can attack the US Navy, and be rewarded for doing so (USS Liberty)

    17. The American-Israeli victim class supremacy scheme ideology:

    Women are entitled because of Male oppression
    Jewish are entitled because of Gentile oppression
    Queers are entitled because of Straight oppression
    Muslims are entitled because of Christian oppression
    Disabled are entitled because of Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are entitled because of White oppression
    Latinos are entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are entitled because of Gringo oppression
    Military Veteran are entitled because of Militia oppression
    2-party System Dependents are entitled because of Independent oppression
    Aboriginals are entitled because of Paleface oppression
    Asians are entitled because of Occidental oppression
    National Socialist are entitled because of local-state Government oppression
    Crony Capitalist are entitled because of honest Businessmen oppression
    Ex-cons are entitled because of Law-Abiding people oppression
    Zionist are entitled because of anti-Fascist oppression

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  61. Avery says:

    {Avery, TJM has you.}

    No, he doesn’t.
    Youse are confused.
    I am not Jewish and have no love for Israel.
    The IslamoFascist parasite singing the praises of Islam, while squatting in Christian Canada, imagines everyone to be Zionist or ‘Moshe’.

    I am American by choice, and Armenian by ancestry.
    The State of Israel is a mortal enemy of my ancestral land, Armenia.
    Jewish-American Neocons are Turkophile AG denialist filth: I despise them with a passion.
    But I don’t conflate Jews and the State of Israel or Jewish Neocons.

    My beef with IslamoFascist parasite [Rehmat] has nothing to do with either Jews or Israel.
    My beef is his glorification of IslamoFascism: an existential threat to Christianity, Western Civilization, and by extension US.
    The Islamist supremacist parasite lives in Christian Canada, while endlessly ragging on Christians and Western civilization. The fact that he rags on Jews as well is of no interest to me.

    • Replies: @Marcus
  62. Recklessness, cynicism and treason are the concepts which come to mind discussing the neocons and their acolyte, the fascist Harpy. Survival itself is at stake in this election, and survival “trumps’ political correctness.

  63. 5371 says:

    Actually, a shed-load of Muslims do immigrate to Saudi Arabia, despite the risk of ill-treatment or deportation being much greater there than in the US.

    • Replies: @Avery
  64. 5371 says:

    Yes. Judaism is it exists today is a sect split off from Christianity, and not the other way round.

  65. Boris N says:

    The last time when Pu and Ne were meeting they have signed an agreement, according to which every Israeli senior who repatriated into Israel before 1992 (the border date between being a Soviet citizen and a Russian citizen) will get Russian pensions. That is the Israelis who are even not Russian citizens will get Russian pensions from the Russian budget. It is thought the number of that pensioners would be around 30 thousand. Not to mention other 40-70 thousand Israeli senior denizens who have dual Israeli-Russian citizenship and whose right to get Russian pensions is even not disputable. The total number of Israelis who will get Russian money will be around 100 thousand. At the same time more than 40 million Russian seniors hardly get $200 a month, while for Israelis it is just a bonus to what they are already getting from the state of Israel. No wonder the life expectancy in Israel is one of the world’s highest, 82 years, while in Russia it’s 70 years (Russian men do not live even that, theirs is 65 years), more like of a Third World country.

    So when you, a President of Russia, faces a dilemma if you pay more to your Russian senior citizens and your potential voters (Russian pensioners have always been largely, >90%, pro-Putin) or you pay to Israeli citizens, what will you choose? Of course, if you are a real Russian patriot and a real Russian president you without doubt and hesitations pay that sum to Russians and make the life easier for several hundreds of thousands of Russian elders. But if you are Putin, a “resident” rather than a president, your choice is obvious: pay that money to Israelis.

    And after that can there be found even a single person who will dare to call Putin a Russian patriot and nationalist?

    So there is no secret why Ne has been coming to Russia. He’s been coming to lobby the interests of his country, his citizens and voters and to move the burden from the Israeli budget onto the Russian one.

    • Replies: @Alieu
  66. Parsifal says:
    @Oscar Peterson

    Well, he had serious differences with them during the so-called Arab Spring which they supported plus he not only refuses to jump on the anti-Russia bandwagon, as Philip Giraldi already noted, but has improved relations in the recent years beyond anything previously seen.

    • Replies: @KA
  67. @pink_point

    Trump not astute, not familiar with politics? I wonder how he got the Republican nomination to be President of the USA? This is like saying Newton did not know physics or Shakespeare English.

  68. Rurik says:

    I don’t know much about power politics in the Knesset

    well, to be honest SC, I’ve had my access limited recently after writing some disparaging things of late about Israel. (They’re very thin-skinned about stuff like that ; )

    But I do try to keep my antenna tuned and dusted off, and I once hired a (very smart) Jewish gal at my small business and it turned out her father spent his career in US naval intelligence. We had a few conversations about the wisdom of the Iraq war, or lack there of, and some of the stuff she told me has effected my perceptions. I’ve also read (I’d like to say prodigiously) from myriad sources including books by hacks like Tom Freidman and others written even by rabbis (often trying to read between the lines, so to speak) to try to get a handle on issues I consider daunting (and dire). Anyways I suspect the last Israeli leader who possessed any leadership mettle was Rabin. (Sharon and Bibi had/have a lot of guts to be sure, but not the good kind ; )

    But it doesn’t surprise me that bibi’s daddy was notorious. bibi comes across to me like that kid in the neighborhood whose daddy owns the boat or whatever, and everyone better do things his way or he’s going to kick them off daddy’s property. He reminds me of a protestant preacher sent into a parish with a lot of rich widows, specifically for the purpose of using a robust sounding voice and virile posturing to schmooze the cash out of lonely dowagers.

    here’s bibi getting chastised and warned by the PTB

    can you imagine the sultan (for instance) having his government look into corruption in his regime? And it’s not like they aren’t all corrupt over there, or here! for that matter.

    (btw, thanks for the encouragement. Coming from you it’s significant)

  69. Hunsdon says:

    If Putin were to go, just who do you see replacing him? Western oriented liberal reformers?

  70. Art says:

    Please — Putin and Netanyahu are both anti democratic thugs – whatever they agree too will turn out badly for humanity – that is a 100% given.

    You can be sure that whatever they agree too, will enhance their personal power over the people of their countries.

    People are sovereign – not governments or leaders or rulers.

    Russia and Israel are in name democracies. But clearly they have morphed into nations with overpowering media, overpowering government, and overpowering leaders. The same has happened to all Western governments.

    The part played by the Jews in the decline of Western democracy is devastating.

    What is most devastating is the endless push by the left Jews and the right Jews for more and more central power over local affairs. All the better to control the whole nation.

    • Replies: @woodNfish
  71. I’m sure one reason the neocons support the unnecessary expansion of the military is to continue to have the MIC fund their “think tanks” and corner offices, hwr, I believe that they have a more strategic reason for creating “enemies” and pursuing larger military budgets.

    Over the years the neocons have grown more sophisticated in their propaganda and the noble lie to hide their true intentions (assisted by the likes of Frank Luntz and the Edward Bernays legacy). But if we read the early candid comments of the neocon godfathers, Norman Podhoretz and Irving Kristol who were more honest about their motivations we see a different picture.

    Irving Kristol stated his belief that a robust U.S. military would be the catalyst for positive developments globally and most particularly for Israel. In 1973, Kristol attacked Democratic Presidential nominee George McGovern, stating that:

    “Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30 percent. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel… Jews don’t like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States… American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.”

    Norman Podhoretz, writing about the centralness of Israel, in Breaking Ranks (1979):

    “There was, to be sure, one thing that many of even the most passionately committed American Zionists were reluctant to do, and that was to face up to the fact that continued American support for Israel depended upon continued American involvement in international affairs– from which it followed that an American withdrawal into the kind of isolationist mood that prevailed most recently between the two world wars, and that now looked as though it might soon prevail again, represented a direct threat to the security of Israel.”

  72. FLgeezer says:

    >Russia stands in the way of their globalist designs– of all Jews, even the ones in Israel– since Putin-Hitler is not their puppet and therefore must be replaced in a war that they will agitate into being and that others will fight, as always

    Excellent post hbm. Keep up the spot-on critical analysis!

  73. woodNfish says:

    decisive kinetic action

    Please, spare me the BS newspeak!

  74. woodNfish says:

    Putin and Netanyahu are both anti democratic thugs

    So is obama and the rest of our federal mafia.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
  75. tbraton says:

    “at least I see SC ‘doth protest’ ”

    You show a deft, light comic touch there, rurik, which even the target took in good humor. Well played.

  76. tbraton says:

    Politics has always been a delicate balancing act with one essential aim, without which it is all a complete waste of time: to win elections and thereby secure power. I would rather bet on Donald Trump and his remaining faithful to his non-interventionist promises rather than bet on Hillary and hope she remains unfaithful to all her interventionist promises. We actually have a record by which to measure the two choices: Hillary voted for the Iraq War as Senator while Trump opposed it; Hillary pushed for war against Libya and Qaddafi while Trump was against it, more or less, and has condemned that war; Hillary pushed for arming Ukraine while Trump opposed it; Hillary has called for illegal no-fly zones over Syria, while Trump has opposed them. Seems like a complete no-brainer to me. What about you? You seem supremely qualified to make a no-brainer decision.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  77. “Sufficient reason to vote for”? In fact it is the only reason I would vote for Trump.

  78. Alieu says:

    I think the real reason Israel maintains formally good relations with Russia while the neocons lead the hostility is to give Israel plausible deniability. That way they can use the power of America and its client states to put pressure on and even attack Russia, while suffering no negative consequences for themselves. Any Russian retaliation will be directed against America and the EU – while Israel gets away scot-free. They can pretend it’s just those crazy Americans (who all happen to be Zionist Jews) and “the West” that’s against Russia while Israel remains its friend.

    This allows Israel to use America and Europe to carry out their foreign policy with all of the retaliation being directed against them instead of against the Jewish state. Much like how they use the American and European militaries to destroy their enemies as in Iraq, and these countries suffer all the casualties and financial costs while Israel gets away with absolutely no consequences. It’s hard to believe Vladimir Putin isn’t smart enough to see through this good cop/bad cop charade but he seems to be quite naive on the Jewish issue. Ultimately Israel is a parasitic nation which relies on the manipulation of its hosts in order to survive.

    • Replies: @Ivy
  79. Alieu says:
    @Boris N

    That’s a good point. I wonder if he might be doing that in order to have some economic leverage over Israel (after all it’s not a huge number of people and would not have a large effect on the Russian budget). That’s the only reason that could possibly justify it. Otherwise it’s inexcusable.

  80. @Rehmat

    Sorry to put a damper on ur hamper but next to Rohani and Xi, Putin is one of the greatest anti anglo-Zionist of the modern era . P.S I forgot Assad. Putin uses a saying keep ur friends close but ur enemies enemies even closer. I suggest u start frequenting Russophilic websites like The Saker . The Duran and Fort Russ and Katheon it might enlighten u to how Putin and Russians think of anglo-Zionist which is totally different to the religion of Judea Zionism is political and fascistic in nature and practice.

  81. If this presidential election serves no other useful purpose, it will have pulled back the curtain enough to reveal the faces of the puppet masters, pulling the strings. Whether or not the curtain stays back or is removed entirely, depends largely on which candidate becomes president, now or in the future.

  82. @Parsifal

    Bibi is doing basically the same thing neocons have done in making a 180 degree turn to support Hillary. Bibi is simply positioning himself to take advantage of any unforeseen developments that might possibly enhance Israel’s role in determining which terrorist organization emerges as the winner of the war in Syria.

  83. @Sherman

    Maybe the West Bank doesn’t belong to Palestinians, but it sure as hell doesn’t belong to Jewish invaders from east Europe.

    • Replies: @iffen
  84. Avery says:

    {Actually, a shed-load of Muslims do immigrate to Saudi Arabia}

    Don’t have any figures on immigration to Saudi Arabia.
    You probably do.
    But I was not addressing immigration.
    This is what I wrote:
    {Is that why millions of desperate Muslims are literally risking death to reach and get asylum in Christian Europe…. }

    What I was pointing out is that very prosperous Saudi Arabia has not taken any asylum seekers : the people who are desperately trying to reach any Western country after Neocons (and KSA) lit Syria on fire.

    Maybe I don’t have all the information, but I am not aware of KSA taking any e.g. Syrian refugees, which is different than immigration.

  85. iffen says:
    @Carroll Price

    doesn’t belong to Jewish invaders

    Possession is nine-tenths of the law.

    • Replies: @Moi
    , @Art
  86. @Fran Macadam

    And never forget Fran that the war to begin all wars started right on schedule – less than 3 years following Rothschild successful attempt to install his banking business here in the US, disguised as the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

  87. Sam Shama says:

    Agreed on all counts, and continue to back Trump.

    Yet, I was more than a little taken aback, and still don’t know what to make of Eric Trump’s little act last evening.

    Eric said that his dad’s brand name is synonymous with excellence – and he broke into a laughter as if he had just delivered a joke.. seriously, watch the clip. Has anyone have any thoughts?

    • Replies: @tbraton
  88. tbraton says:

    Sam, I have to admit that I missed Eric Trump’s speech last, but I will try to see if I can find it sometime today and give you my reaction. I caught Don Jr.’s the previous night and was very impressed. He really seems to have some talented kids, so you have to give him credit there.

    • Agree: Sam Shama
    • Replies: @art
  89. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    US foreign policy in a nutshell:

    The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

    The enemy of my friend is my enemy.

    The friend of my enemy is my enemy.

    The friend of my friend is my enemy.

  90. Marcus says:

    Israel has helped arm Azerbaijan to the teeth, and before that was instrumental in modernizing Turkey’s military before their (apparent) falling out.

    • Replies: @Avery
  91. Moi says:

    and possession by theft is still theft.

  92. tbraton says:
    @Sam Shama

    Sam, I just finished watching a clip of Eric Trump’s full speech last night. First, an admission. As I started watching, it sounded very familiar, so I kept close track to see how much I had seen last night, and I finally realized that I had watched (or listened to) the entire speech. What had confused me was your allusion to the incidence of laughter, which I missed last night and likewise missed on first listening today. But, as I started to prepare this message, the speech was replaying from the beginning on another window. Then I caught it. It occurs at the 3:38 mark (or so) on the PBS version of the speech. (Here’s the link for anybody interested: So I switched windows to actually watch it again after doing a little rewinding. It was understandable why I missed it last night and on first listening today. It happened rather quickly. My impression is that you are making too much of a little blip in what was a finely delivered speech. Whether because of nerves or whatever, there was a little hitch, but I wouldn’t read too much into it. That’s my impression anyway.

    BTW I look forward to Ivanka’s speech tonight. I have caught her in various short clips doing interviews, and she seems very poised and very well spoken. As I said before, Donald Trump has certainly raised a fine group of kids, much better than the Kennedys.

    P.S.—FWIW Mike Pence wouldn’t have been my first choice as VP, but I was very impressed by his fine speech last night. I thought it was very well delivered, and it heaped abundant praise on the man who chose him. I also thought that Pence conveys the right impression that will go a long way to assuaging those who are made nervous by Donald Trump. My hat is also tipped to Newt Gingrich who followed the abominable Ted Cruz last night and quickly repaired whatever damage Cruz had inflicted on the ticket. My initial reaction, expressed last night, was that Cruz had done nothing to help himself with that dreadful performance, which showed once again why he is the most unpopular man in the Senate. But, in reading a lot of the reactions this morning, I was heartened to see how many agreed that Cruz had written his political obituary last night. (Cruz is obviously a very bright guy, but he is not nearly as bright as he thinks he is.) Since Trump gave Cruz the green light to speak after reading his speech, it also shows what a keen judge of men Trump is. He probably figured that Cruz would actually damage himself irreparably with that speech, so why not let him commit suicide on national TV.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  93. art says:

    I watched Don Jr. – what came to mind is “now there is a president.” It seems to me that he is a happy balanced man with four children, enthusiasm for life, intelligence, and a winning smile.

    I did not watch Eric – but what comes to mind when I see him is “arrogant rich boy.”

    Hope Trump does not spend all his time bashing Hillary tonight. There is plenty of time latter to call her a liar.

    Tonight is not a stump speech – he already owns the braistemers – he must talk hope, and coming together as one nation, doing what America does best – producing a better freer life for ALL.

    Trump must proclaim that he can unleash America’s “can do” spirit.

    We built the Panama Channel and went to the moon – we can do it again.

    p.s. Hillary will regulate and build toilets.

    p.s. Goldman Sachs has sent her a memo

  94. Art says:


    Hmm – looks like it took you a NY second to come up with that.

    How proud you must be, getting away with the theft of the private property of a people who lived in a land for 2,000 years.

    This stain will stigmatize the Jews forever.


    p.s. Really – why would anyone wanabe a Jew?

    • Replies: @iffen
  95. Sam Shama says:

    Thank you for spending the time to go through the speech once again; on balance I reckon you are quite right that it is likely a little nervous blip, not worth too much remark. His children are clearly very well brought up and carry themselves with poise. Do look forward to Ivanka’s speech, for she, by all accounts, has his ear more than most. It should be telling.

    Pence has indeed carried himself well and holds promise to smooth over the roughed nerves of the Establishment, whose collaboration Trump needs, at least through November. I must still admit to a bit of schadenfreude, on account of Bill Kristol’s glaring absence from the chosen commentariat – ditto George Will.

  96. Ivy says:

    Israel also wants good relations with Russia because there are still a lot of Jews living there. They want to ensure that their Landsmen will remain safe.

  97. Avery says:

    {Israel has helped arm Azerbaijan to the teeth, and before that was instrumental in modernizing Turkey’s military before their (apparent) falling out.}

    You got it Marcus.

    There is a reason I wrote:{The State of Israel is a mortal enemy of my ancestral land, Armenia.}

    There was a 4-day mini-war back in April, when Azerbaijan mounted a surprise invasion of Nagorno-Karbagh (aka Artsakh). Most of the losses of armor and troops were due to targeting by high-tech Israeli drones bought by Azerbaijan, and by Israeli design Harop suicide-drones.
    Harop was a nasty surprise for the Armenian side: they knew nothing about it.
    A lot of armor and men were lost to Harops.
    Because it requires high-skill and experience to operate, Armenian side is sure Israeli operators in Baku were in fact controlling the Harops, not Azerbaijanis. There is circumstantial evidence to back it up.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    , @5371
    , @Parbes
  98. Marcus says:

    I think Israel is desperate to build a “triangle” with Azerbaijan and Turkey to counter Iran and Russia. Superficially they are friendly with Putin, but their interests are almost diametrically opposed.

    • Replies: @Avery
  99. 5371 says:

    Israel is not wise to gratuitously make enemies out of the world’s Armenians. Pride comes before a fall.

  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Not that France’s modus operandi be any different than the Beltway cabal’s, admittedly.

    Be it Ivory Coast, Libya, or Syria, France is there too, as illegaly as the rest of the pack.

    I don’t know if there was a lapse of time, post World War II, when some actually believed in international legality, in any case it’s far behind us.

  101. Parbes says:

    Israelis, and Anglo-Zionists in general, are also among Erdogan and the Turkish Islamists’ strongest international backers. Many Zionist commentators have been applauding Erdogan’s survival of the coup attempt these last few days, praising him effusively as a so-called champion of democratic people power etc. It’s enough to make one puke.

  102. iffen says:

    p.s. Really – why would anyone wanabe a Jew?

    I would love to have a back-up country. This would be at the top of my list of reasons.

  103. Rehmat says:

    YES – let’s start with Armenia. So tell me why Abraham Foxman and other Jewish groups campaigned against the recognition of 1.5 million Armenian killed during WWI as Christian Holocaust?

    Here is a hint. The Armenian massacre was carried out by Turkish Dönmeh (Crypto Jew) – while the so-called WWII Jewish holocaust was committed by Frankist Jews.

    Late Rabbi Wolf Gunther Plaut, former president of Canadian Jewish Congress (CJC) and Chief Rabbi at Toronto’s Holy Blossom Temple, in his 1990 book, ‘The Man Who Would Be Messiah‘, Plaut wrote that Frankist Jews were responsible for the Holocaust. The book’s ‘Foreword’ was written by no other than Elie Weisel, the father of ‘holocaust culture’. Weisel did not disagree with Rabbi Plaut. The book is biography of Polish Rabbi Ya’akov Frank (1726-1791), who claimed being the biblical Messiah of Jews and thus part of Trinity….

    • Replies: @Avery
  104. Avery says:

    {So tell me why Abraham Foxman and other Jewish groups campaigned against the recognition of 1.5 million Armenian killed during WWI as Christian Holocaust?}

    Two main reasons:

    #1. At the time several Jewish-American NGOs, and Jewish-American so-called “scholars” were doing it because Israel and Turkey were allies, and Turkish leaders asked Israeli leaders to task Jewish-American NGOs and such to work against recognition of AG. Also, various Jewish-American “scholars” were receiving funds from Turkey or Turkish NGOs to do “historical research”. One notorious guy, late Prof Stanford Shaw, a Jewish-American AG denialist down here at UCLA, was buried in Ankara – as per his wishes.
    There are also some non-Jews (Anglos) engaged in AG denial.

    At present, there are several Israeli writes, columnists, “researchers”, etc engaged in AG denialism and anti-Armenian propaganda on behalf of Turkbaijan (aka Azerbaijan).
    Again, tasked by Israeli leaders on behalf of their new “love” Azerbaijan.

    #2. Certain Jewish people, maybe most, believe the Holocaust is unique, and they are afraid of “losing” the “status”, if another Genocide attains wide recognition. The alleged “uniqueness” of the Holocaust is used by Jewish Diaspora and State of Israel for a variety of useful purposes, so…..

    Nevertheless, in conjunction with denialist Jews, there are many Jewish-Americans and Israelis who vehemently oppose their denialist compatriots. (E.g. Prof Israel Charny in Israel)
    Same with Turks: there a handful Turks living in Turkey who risk jail or worse by openly advocating for AG recognition.

    And the word ‘Genocide’ itself was coined by a Polish Jew, Prof Lemkin: he coined it based on his study of the AG and the Holocaust.

    Like I said in another post: I do not lump all Jews together or conflate what individual Jews do with what the State of Israel does or what Israeli leaders do.

    Regarding Turkish Dönmeh: all I can say is that I am well aware of the theory. A long and convoluted discussion. Perhaps another time.

  105. @Wally

    New England Jews from Massachusetts and Rhode Island and itinerant slave merchants in the South were the only people to make any money off the slave trade. New England Jews built (or had built) practically all ships used in the slave trade and produced most of the goods used as barter for slaves. Including broadcloth made by child laborers, along with billions of gallons of New England rum made from sugar cane produced in the Caribbean Islands that represented the bottom-right corner of what came to be known as “the slave triangle” originating in New England. Then, to realize further profits, once England outlawed the slave trade in the 1830s, Jews assumed the role of becoming the chief agitators behind the New England based Abolitionist Movement. Which, within 25 years, resulted in a war leading to a military invasion of South, followed by an army of civilian carpetbaggers who looted and stole anything and everything of value – including slaves purchased from Jews. Does this sound at all familiar with what’s taking place in Middle East, and the group that’s known to be directly responsible for it?

    • Replies: @iffen
  106. @Joe Franklin

    Sounds mighty much like a leveling process to me. Which is what Marxism is all about. Reducing the entire herd to an equally low level of intellectual submission, with eyes raised in thankful praise toward Jewish benefactors.

  107. iffen says:
    @Carroll Price

    New England Jews from Massachusetts and Rhode Island and itinerant slave merchants in the South were the only people to make any money off the slave trade.

    Well, you have blown the doors off this hidden history. Jewish merchants making money in world trade and merchant activities! Who would’ve thunk it? Now I know why it was called Zion at Tara.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    , @helena
  108. @iffen

    All large slave markets in the South were closed on Jewish holidays, so what does that tell you?

  109. helena says:

    Why do you make light of it when there is a french comedian facing massive legal bills and possible prison for being the first person to speak out about jewish involvement slavery – not least the very slavery that he is descended from? How is this situation amusing?

    • Replies: @iffen
  110. iffen says:

    How is this situation amusing?

    Maybe the great cosmic equalizer is getting back at the Vichyites for not being better fighters and defenders?

    I always find it farcical when some halfwit “discovers” that Jews were involved in commercial activities throughout the Western world. Some people are going to be perpetually awed and perplexed by the financial success of a trading diaspora that was uniquely situated to take advantage of the age of exploration and the industrial revolution and the global trading dominance that came with those two events. I am not one of those people.

    I choose sides. I choose not to be on the side of Jew haters and obnoxious racists. I am opposed to the race hustlers on both sides of the color line. I do not consider blacks as my enemy. I consider Clinton and her controllers the enemy. Sewer pond scum like Mitt Romney is my enemy.

    Jew haters, real or posers, allow the MSM to create incidents like the red star incident. They allow the MSM to say that Laura Ingraham was giving the Nazi salute and juxtapose that with a photo of Trump supposedly giving the salute as well.

    “We” have lost.

    Shakespeare will be replaced with one hundred and one personal stories describing the angst of discovering that one has black hair and the trials and tribulations of coming to terms with that part of one’s self.

    We lost because we didn’t correctly choose up sides and fight.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @helena
    , @Carroll Price
  111. Art says:

    We lost because we didn’t correctly choose up sides and fight.

    Reading your comment – clearly you have chosen the dark side.

    Looking at world affairs – clearly the Jew side is the dark side.

    One should never ever be on the wrong side of good.

    • Replies: @iffen
  112. iffen says:

    We create good and bad, Art.

    Jew hating is bad.

    • Replies: @Art
  113. helena says:

    The available sides are:

    a) continuing the tradition of reasoned debate

    b) calling people haters or, to bring us right up to date, ‘post-factual’

    • Replies: @iffen
  114. Art says:

    Jew hating is bad.

    Telling the truth about the Jews is the highest form of political good in America. It is virtually prohibited in elitist circles. Free speech is gone in the upper classes.

    Economically, culturally, and in foreign policy the Jews have moved America in the wrong direction – a dark direction —- end of story.

    To you — protecting Jews is the highest form of political action. It appears to concern you more than anything.

    This borders on the fanatic.

  115. @iffen

    “Jew haters” are not nearly as upset about the destructive things Jews have done, and continue doing, as they are about Jews covering-up and lying about virtually every evil thing they have ever done. Plus, the unique talent Jews have for inventing fantastic tales about events that never actually occurred, while brow-beating anyone who dares question obvious falsehoods. The slave trade and the holohoax serve as perfect examples of both.

  116. iffen says:

    a) continuing the tradition of reasoned debate

    Reasoned debate is a means to an end, to be correctly informed of facts in order to make good decisions and create and implement good policies, both individually and collectively. This is not a political “side.” Everyone thinks and claims that this is what controls their behavior, but we know that there is a continuum for excellence in reasoned debate. I doubt that it is reasonable to “debate” holocaust deniers, just like it is not reasonable to spend time “debating” with moon landing deniers.

    b) calling people haters or, to bring us right up to date, ‘post-factual’

    Calling something for what it is the first step in reasoned decision making. There is nothing wrong with hate. Hating the wrong people is detrimental to a reasoned political position. The existence and actions of Jew haters and obnoxious racists, combined with the actions of sewer scum like Romney and Kasich, will cause the defeat of Trump and the election of Clinton.

    • Replies: @helena
  117. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Spengler (we all should read him), who died in 1936, to Israel critics and opposers:

    “Talk of world peace is heard today only among the white peoples, and not among the much more numerous coloured races. This is a perilous state of affairs. When individual thinkers and idealists talk of peace, as they have done since time immemorial, the effect is negligible. But when whole peoples become pacifistic it is a symptom of senility. Strong and unspent races are not pacifistic. To adopt such a position is to abandon the future, for the pacifist ideal is a terminal condition that is contrary to the basic facts of existence. As long as man continues to evolve, there will be wars…”

  118. helena says:

    a) Reasoned debate is a means to an end – understanding, policy, champagne. No, it’s not a side, it’s a civilisation-level ideology. “I doubt that it is reasonable to “debate” – fine, debate something else.

    b) exactly – what is the reason for critical comment?

    • Replies: @iffen
  119. iffen says:

    You will have to break it down and simplify it. I am not following you.

    • Replies: @helena
  120. helena says:

    Your line of argument and that of neoliberals/progressives is taken from the doctrine of false consciousness. Instead of debating alternative views, alternative views are delegitimised using various trigger labels. Trigger meaning that the label acts as a sign that not only those putting forward the argument but also anyone associating with anyone putting forward the argument is shunned. So what if someone has come up with a theory of history that disagrees with your own? Let the arguments be heard. Let everyone know why intelligent design or whatever has no basis in the evidence. Otherwise society is not free to advance intellectually. The whole of Europe and America is now split down the middle on this precise point. But the problem is, I think, that thinking objectively is quite a rare trait hence, ‘dangerous words’.

  121. KA says:

    Bibi has not broken ranks with the essence of the Neocon manifesto.He supports each and every neoocn positions on Iran,Palestine,and Syria . Or to put it more bluntly the neocons and the “Scooper Jackson of Boeing ” of Democrats follow the Netanyaho doctrines that matter to ME.
    Arab spring was gutted in the bud before it could take its form and assume its powerful political position It was like the phenomena of Bernie Sanders and Occupy Wall Street , ignored and changed from within .It was infiltrated and quashed and then replaced with sectarianism racism and violent fanaticism Those sections were fully supported by the neoocns and by Israel.

    It is ironic that Wikileaks could be cited and depended upon by Republicans when it comes handy to pulverize Hillary but not even mentioned when it exposes the links between supporting ISIS and weakening Iran for the benefit of Israel.

  122. iffen says:

    Instead of debating alternative views, alternative views are delegitimised using various trigger labels. Trigger meaning that the label acts as a sign that not only those putting forward the argument but also anyone associating with anyone putting forward the argument is shunned.

    If it is true that the “Cultural Marxists” are using this tactic to defeat and destroy Western Civilization, maybe we should pay attention to history and adopt and adapt successful tactics and weapons before it is too late. 🙂

    I am not “debating” with Jew haters. I have already had that debate with myself. The question for debate is whether we will continue in the Western tradition of liberal thought and empiricism. The idea that the individual cannot be separated from the group is anti-thetical to this tradition. Anyone who insists that the shibboleth is race, ethnic group or religion is by definition on the other side.

    • Replies: @helena
  123. helena says:

    If one wants liberalism and empiricism then one has to debate all evidences.

  124. @helena

    Indeed. The genius of Jews is inventing outrageous lies, followed by denigrating anyone who dares question evidence on which they are supposedly founded. The relatively modern fable of a Jewish holocaust is no less far-fetched as the ancient fable of Jews crossing the Red Sea on dry land, or the fable supporting the walls of Jericho falling to the ground after Israelis had marched around the city 7 times. And then we have the famous Jewish fable of the world standing still for a period of one day while Joshua defeated the Philistines. It goes on and on. There’s really no end to what these people can come up with. And to call those like myself who doubt or question their tall tales bad names, is nothing short of reprehensible conduct.

    • Replies: @helena
  125. @helena

    Perhaps no one ever elucidated the theory of the Big Lie quite as well as Adolph Hitler in his book, Mein Kampf.

    “All this was inspired by the principle – which is quite true in itself – that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.
    “From time immemorial , Jews have known better than any others how falsehood and calumny can be exploited. Is not their very existence founded on one great lie, namely, that they are a religious community, whereas in reality they are a race? And what a race! One of the greatest thinkers that mankind has produced branded the Jews for all time with a statement which is profoundly and exactly true. Schopenhauer called the Jew “The Great Master of Lies.” Those who do not realize the truth of that statement, or do not wish to believe it, will never be able to lend a hand in helping truth to prevail.”

    Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s minister of propaganda, is alleged to have stated that if a lie is repeated enough times it would become widely accepted as truth. However, it is not clear when he actually made this statement.

    • Replies: @helena
  126. helena says:
    @Carroll Price

    It may be interesting to revisit biblical tales in light of the last couple of hundred years of european history but surely for contemporary debate it is more productive to focus on the power of the jewish/israeli lobby in the west and the activities of the israeli government in the middle-east? it would be a shame for such debates to be sidelined due to conflation with unprovable 2000 year old hypotheses.

  127. helena says:
    @Carroll Price

    I’m afraid i don’t share your interest in or admiration of mr h. after all what you quote is opinion not some rigorous anthropological analysis. and he was quite wrong in respect of race otherwise we would not see jewish people who look german, italian, slav etc. unfortunately the idea that jewish people are a race, rather than a group of people exhibiting considerable admixture, has taken hold in britain; maybe we have mr h. to thank for that. no, it is the british specifically and europeans more widely who are denounced as mongrels despite a plethora of genetic evidence to the contrary.

    mr h. strikes me as a rather ridiculous figure. I don’t like his greasy hair or silly moustache or stupid salute and mass rallies for anything turn me off. I know TV documentaries may not be reliable sources of info but is there no truth to the idea that had mr h. gone with the head of the u-boats strategy (I can never remember his name, begins with D) germany could have won the war? but instead mr h. crushed the u-boats – maybe he was jealous that mr d. was respected as a great leader by his men whereas there doesn’t seem to be any sign that mr h. was a good leader, rather he was someone who came to power due to unforeseen circumstances and political instability.

    in short, I think +the debate+ can be had without reference to either hitler or the bible.

  128. Erelis says:

    I wonder if Bibi might actually act as peace maker telling Hillary not to attack Russians in Syria. I wonder if Putin would say to Hillary, okay attack us. Hezbollah now gets our full support including SAMs to be used against Israel.

  129. Art says:

    The US Jews force America to go after Russia – all the while Netanyahu plays kissie face with Putin.

    This is wrong – wrong – wrong.

  130. n230099 says:

    “There are over million Russian Jews living over land stolen from Palestinians…”

    When American, Canadian and Australian settlers return their occupied holdings to the indigenous peoples that are the historical owners, people might start taking puckerbutted memes like yours seriously.

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