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Writer and academic, Michael Lind, has a book, Next American Nation: The New Nationalism and the Fourth American Revolution, published in 1995. Lind advocates for a new Liberal Civic Nationalism for America, with calls for changing conceptions of America’s national identity, as far as what it means to be American. American History is made up of different republics, with the first being after independence, the 2nd after the Civil War, the 3rd post-WWII and post-civil rights. Lind calls for a Fourth Republic, or Fourth American Revolution. Lind believes in America as a proposition nation, founded upon liberalism, but does not overly idealize the Founding Fathers. Unlike other civic nationalists, Lind does not try to revise the originalism of America’s founding as compatible with modern liberalism, and views the Founders as White Supremacists. Lind is especially critical of Jefferson’s States’ Rights and anti-industrial agrarianism. Of American historical figures, Lind most admires Alexander Hamilton, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Frederick Douglass, while is a staunch critic of both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, as well as Libertarianism.

Michael Lind starts off speculating how Thomas Jefferson might have envisioned modern day America, circa 2000 AD. Ethnic Americans, defined as Anglo Saxons and other Northwest Europeans, demographically dominate the North American continent, numbering at about 500 Million. This alternative Jeffersonian America would be very ethnocentric, with Non-Whites, as well as Southern and Eastern Europeans, excluded. America would be made up of a series of small hamlets with neo-classical town squares, and an agrarian economy. There would be a series of friendly, ethnically and culturally similar, sister republics, including the Republics of Canada, Oregon, California, and Texas. Unitarianism, Deism, and Free Masonry would be the dominant religions, with Unitarianism becoming a quasi-state religion. There would also be a series of decentralized militias, and a natural aristocracy, based upon the Platonic ideal, selected to be leaders of their various republics.

While I was vaguely familiar with Michael Lind, I recently discovered Next American Nation, because an online contact pointed out that Lind warns against the dangers of what I have been advocating for. Basically, pan-enclavism or symmetrical multiculturalism taking hold in the future, even using “my terms” right-wing multiculturalism and enclaves. Lind co-wrote a book calling for a Radical Center, a term ironically I’ve also used to describe my views. Though I suppose liberal nationalism and rightwing multiculturalism could both be a Radical Center, as it is a loosely defined concept. Lind predicts a multiculturalism II or an illiberal multiculturalism, where White Americans become just another racial bloc. For instance, anti-White discrimination being replaced by a straightforward, honest quota system, or separate but equal, once the double standards are gone. Lind gives the hypothetical example of the use of quotas and set asides, of an equal amount of Black, Jewish, Catholic, and Protestant seats being granted for the Supreme Court, and Black Studies being joined by Evangelical Studies. There could be a rightwing multicultural regime or ethno-federalism, where voting districts are drawn on ethnic partisan lines, to receive federal patronage. Lind believes that multiculturalism is heading in this direction, as Whites and social conservatives recede in influence and scope, and start to demand their piece of the pie.

Lind emphasizes that multiculturalism is not inherently liberal, and gives the example of Apartheid South Africa, as an illiberal version of multiculturalism. Lind predicted that the right would learn to speak the language of the multicultural left. For instance, France’s elder Le Pen, Jean-Marie, in the 90s, who believed that Muslims should have their own schools and institutions, on the grounds that they can never become truly French, while also adopting the rhetoric of leftwing multiculturalism. Le Pen was likely influenced by the French New Right’s Alain De Benoist and ethnopluralism. However, his daughter, Marine Le Pen, supported a more assimilationist agenda, during her recent run for president. Lind also gives the example of White Nationalist, George Lincoln Rockwell, reaching out to Black Nationalists, seeking an agreement of voluntary segregation. White Nationalist, Louis Andrews, wrote that multiculturalism was preferable to mass assimilation, and viewed multiculturalism as a path towards White Nationalism, seeking out a “second form of multiculturalism,” where Whites recognize themselves as a distinct group, take their own side, and hold their own against other ethnic groups.

In cities like New York and Los Angeles, and States like California and Texas, where Whites become the second or third largest group, Lind predicts that they will start to see themselves as simply one more demographic block, deserving of protection and entitled to shares of the spoils. This is remarkably similar to what I have been saying, that White Californians are a prototype for America’s multiethnic future, who should start to view themselves as a distinct tribe or diaspora. However, hardly anyone prominent in California is saying that, and as things stand, White Californians are either firmly in the blue tribe or are just hyper individualistic. While White identity politics is starting to be normalized on the right, with mainstream conservatives like Matt Walsh openly talking about anti-Whiteness, to liberal cosmopolitan White Californians, White identity politics is synonymous with ultra MAGA.

Michael Lind contrasts the two main ideological strains in rightwing politics. One is the Fascist Right, who want to consolidate power and impose a monolithic culture, as Mussolini and Franco suppressed regional identities. The other is the Feudalist Right, who want to weaken centralized authority and opt out of liberal mass society. Lind considers segregation and enclavism, as in line with Feudalism. While neo-feudalism is often used to describe a future technocratic dystopia, feudalism was actually more decentralized than the modern European nation states, that arose in the 19th Century. Feudalism influenced the decentralized Swiss Canton s, with Switzerland as an example of a pluralist multinational nation, and Dutch Pillarisation, a politico-denominational segregation of society by political and religious groups. Ironically Dutch Pillarisation, both influenced Apartheid South Africa, and even though partially dismantled by Dutch liberals after World War II, was latter used as justification by Muslim immigrants to claim semi autonomy. Even though Thomas Jefferson denounced feudalism, the Jeffersonian model of Aristocratic Agrarian Democracy, was likely influenced by English feudalism. Lind, as a Hamiltonian, believes that individual liberties and constitutional government is more secure under a strong centralized nation-state, rather than under a decentralized confederacy, which he believes would be hijacked by parochial fiefdoms and malign foreign influence.

Lind also sees rightwing multiculturalism dressed up as libertarianism. The freedom to form parallel institutions and communities, such as the school choice movement. Conservatives often virtue signal that school choice will help poor Blacks, when in reality it was a reaction to forced school integration. Lind gives the example of Richard Nixon embracing school choice to appeal to Catholic voters, who wanted their own school system, and contrasts that with James G. Blaine, a late 19th Century Republican politician, who introduced a constitutional amendment to ban private or parochial schools. This was on anti-Catholic and nativist grounds to prevent immigrants from forming parallel societies. Lind believes that the privatization of education, without strict government controls, would fragment America into many different tribes, that live in radically different mental universes. This is also relevant to Mark Weiner’s book, The Rule of the Clan: What an Ancient Form of Human Organization Reveals About the Future of Individual Freedom, in which Weiner acknowledges the social benefits of clans, but opposes returning to a clan based society, on the grounds of undermining individual freedoms and liberal institutions.

Both the left and right have a centralist to decentralist spectrum, with parallels between both the radical integrationist left and the nationalist assimilationist right, as well as between the segregationist right and leftist multiculturalists, who veer into separate but equal territory. There is much in common between an immigrant worried about their children loosing their culture to assimilation via mass media and public education, and religious homeschoolers and anti-bussing sentiment from ethnocentric Whites. While I support a left-right alliance based upon pluralism and decentralization, as a civic nationalist, Lind’s worst nightmare is a tactical alliance between the multiculturalist left and nativist right. Lind believes that institutional pluralism is a path towards ethnocultural pluralism, and that monolithic, uniform institutions, are necessary to save America from balkanization. He is concerned about America going down the path of post-colonial nations, like Pakistan, or to have stateless peoples like the Kurds or Roma.

Lind predicts the formation of a new caste system, under rightwing multiculturalism, where different races take on various roles and form tactical alliances with one another. He could see the right mimicking the current political alliance between White liberal elites and poor Blacks, with a scenario where Latinos dominate the military, taking on a similar role to White Southerners of the past, and forming an alliance with old money Whites, with Blacks sidelined. This would be a way for the White minority to hold onto power, and Lind points out examples of this from Latin American politics.

Lind references conservative intellectual, Peter Viereck, who in the 1950s, coined the concept of “Transtolerance.” Viereck was critiquing figures on the right, such as Joe McCarthy, who used a post-racial nativism as a substitute for racism, a trans tolerant ultranationalism. However, minorities could only gain acceptance, under the condition of supporting McCarthyism, and joining in to oppose outgroups, such as cultural liberals, sexual degenerates, the unpatriotic, and Communists. The anti-communist right was adapting to civil rights and post-World War II stigmas about antisemitism, and thus sublimated Jim Crow or antisemitism against their political adversaries. This also applied to the GOP latter blending George Wallace style rhetoric with neoconservatism, capitalism, and colorblind civic nationalism, while denouncing cosmopolitan cultural elites. Another example of this is Bush era movies, starring a Black action hero defeating Islamic extremists.

Trumpism is also a form of Transtolerance, as far as drawing upon the American nativist tradition, while also pandering to Blacks with special platinum plans, and putting Black speakers at the forefront at MAGA rallies. Transtolerance also applies to the current woke Democratic Party, as far as loyalty oaths, and especially the neo-McCarthyism of calling their political adversaries Russian shills. Even Joe Biden’s rhetoric is often closer to Joe McCarthy than to Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn, inverting patriotism to simultaneously mean Civil Rights and the Military Industrial Complex/security state, and that the soul of the Nation must be fiercely defended against unpatriotic racist insurrectionists. While Blacks appear to be the Democratic Party’s favored group, this favoritism is conditional upon support for US imperialism and institutional power. In contrast to loyal subjects to the regime, like Black Lives Matter, the Uhuru movement is an example of a left-Black Nationalist organization whose leaders First Amendment rights were blatantly violated by Biden’s Justice Department, for their views on Russia and US imperialism. Michael Lind opposes Transtolerance as authoritarian and demagogic, exploiting and pitting Americans against each other to maintain power, and instead favors a civic nationalism, where all are equal partners as Americans.

Michael Lind is an unabashed American nationalist and hardline assimilationist, who believes that America must retain a shared language and culture. However, Lind also views America’s identity as fluid and flexible, similar perhaps to Latin America. Basically, he believes that modern American identity should be a sort of multiracial hardline civic nationalism. Lind uses the term, Anglo-America, to describe remnants of the Colonial era, and then sees 1865-1965 America as a European American society. For instance, Teddy Roosevelt embraced the melting pot, but not for everyone, only for Europeans. By the post-War II era, Ellis Islanders were fully embraced as Americans, and Lind sees the need to do the same for multi-racial America. Lind goes beyond generic colorblind civic nationalism, and desires radical cultural fusionism and mass genetic amalgamation, to form a new blended American national race, or Trans-American identity, almost reinventing La Raza Cosmica, but for Americans. He envisions a civil familism, where Americans view each other as one family or people. Lind sees institutions as having a major role in facilitating interracial marriages, and applauds the US military for having high rates of interracial marriage, which he also links to patriotism. This reminds me of a speech by former center-right, French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, calling for mass interbreeding between the native French and non-Western immigrants, in order to prevent balkanization.

Lind sees Hispanics and Asians as having a role in reforming America, due to not having the baggage of the past, and is also optimistic about interracial marriage between Whites and Blacks easing racial tension. I am skeptical of a blended American identity between Euro and African Americans, due to the degree of animus, and significant ethnic differences. I do see some White shift, where White passing half Latinos, and Asians to a degree, embrace an American identity based upon assimilating to Whiteness. However, Lind is simultaneously for mass assimilation while decoupling American identity from Whiteness. Lind has a sense of America’s civic identity as being based upon the English language and common folk culture/traditions, ranging from Westerns to Film Noir. Lind also suggests Alexander Hamilton as one of the heroes of the new American civil religion, and envisions a colorful, Mexican-style, painted, statue of Hamilton, as a new national monument. However, Lind does acknowledge the limits to universalism.

Michael Lind also sees the need for greater intermingling between classes, blurring of class distinctions, and upward class-leveling, so that Americans will see each other as one unified people and share in prosperity, to prevent a stratified caste based society. Lind authored the book, The New Class War: Saving Democracy from the Managerial Elite, and is a critic of America’s class dynamics, in line with thinkers such as Christopher Lasch, and James Burnham. Lind is concerned about the synthesis of the economic right and cultural left to weaken democratic nation-states and suppress the working class. He opposes affirmative action, woke culture, and DEI, as a divide and conquer strategy by economic elites to exploit the economic suffering of the lower class. Lind is sympathetic to populism, citing a study by his New America Foundation, which found that 40.3% of America’s electorate are populists, supporting Social Security while opposing immigration, while another 6.2% are a wealthy demographic, who want to both downsize Social Security and increase immigration. However, Lind departs from populist opposition to bigness and consolidation, and believes that a decentralist framework would have prevented America from achieving greatness. Lind is skeptical of both small businesses and anti-monopoly. He is sympathetic to economic nationalism, and sees a role for both big industry with a strong regulatory state, and wants a big government that supports the middle class. Overall you could say he is a Social Democrat.

The problem with Lind’s civic nationalist vision, is that ideology or civil religions are too weak to hold together a multi-ethnic empire like America. Not to mention mass assimilation almost always involves some form of force or coercion, which is especially difficult factoring in modern America’s sheer diversity. I am also skeptical of Lind’s idea of a civic identity based upon 20th Century pop culture, having mass appeal to future generations from immigrant backgrounds. A successful liberal civic nationalism, would have to have very high institutional standards, low corruption, inspirational culture and aesthetics, and take care of people’s material and social needs, in order to maintain respect and legitimacy. Even when the book came out in the 90s, Lind acknowledged that it would be a difficult task to achieve. I especially do not see this vision succeeding today, with blatant economic and political corruption, extreme income inequality, extreme political polarization, the resurgence in tribalism, high levels of migration, declining trust in institutions, and the system shifting to hard power to suppress free speech and oppress political opposition. America is past the point of no return for any kind of unified civic identity.

Lind believed that the spoils system was flexible enough for a multiculturalism inclusive of Whites, which he thought was inevitable if existing trends persisted. He foresaw a scenario, where if multiculturalism endures, it will manage to tame, capture, and ghettoize White identity and the religious right. He also expected liberal multiculturalists to make concessions because they feared the right. However, a lot has changed since the 90s, when multiculturalism was more open and tolerant, and less draconian than today. Today’s racial double standards against Whites are much more extreme, and the woke left is in alliance with the Corporate/Deep State establishment to suppress the right, including White identity politics. Multiculturalism is encouraged for minority identity groups, while universalism is compulsory for White Americans, who are expected to take on the role of holding the empire together. The establishment and the left are not ready to come to the bargaining table, to agree to some pluralist decentralist arrangement. A symmetrical multiculturalism would require a cataclysmic paradigm shift, and is not as simple as Whites waking up one day, and deciding to pursue their interests.

Lind is right in a sense, that there will be a point where Whiteness will have to be divorced from Americanism, and I do not see the viability of an American nationalism that is based upon implicit Whiteness. Despite conservatives flirting with White identity politics, colorblind civic nationalism and individualism are still strong on the right. For instance, in an interview with Adam Carolla, Tucker Carlson basically said that, Whites are going to be a minority soon, so what that means is you’re going to get people claiming they speak for the White voter, and then dismissed that as a Nazi idea. Either Whites will play the ethnic spoils game, in a post-American order, or there will be some new post-White, civic American identity, that expects the White minority to assimilate to mass society. Out of these options, Whites are better off maintaining a strong identity and group cohesion under multiculturalism. Long term, I do not see continued mass assimilation, as Whites are no longer the dominant core, that serves as a conduit to assimilation, so expect either balkanization or a deracinated mass consumer culture to fill that void. I want to be able to say that I am the prophet of the new realignment, but there are different plausible scenarios for the future of America identity.

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  1. E_Perez says:

    Crude and immature concepts, pretty incoherent, all that.

    Michael Lind is an unabashed American nationalist and hardline assimilationist, who believes that America must retain a shared language and culture.

    Lind predicts a multiculturalism II or an illiberal multiculturalism, where White Americans become just another racial bloc. For instance, anti-White discrimination being replaced by a straightforward, honest quota system, or separate but equal, once the double standards are gone.

    Lind is simultaneously for mass assimilation while decoupling American identity from Whiteness.

    White Americans “just another racial block”, but “mass assimilation” and “a shared language and culture”?

    A country with different racial blocks can only survive when the blocks are geographically segregated.

    The article gives the best examples:
    1) Switzerland, although racially the same people, has three different languages and cultures which remain to this very day geographically sharply separated and politically well balanced.

    2) Apartheid South Africa, whose Homeland system could be improved but was the only viable solution. It did not collapse because it did not work, but because the West destroyed it in favor of a dysfunctional system which is our future.
    And the Boers were too stupid to carve out a White Homeland when they had the power to do it.

  2. Mr. XYZ says:

    Today’s racial double standards against Whites are much more extreme, and the woke left is in alliance with the Corporate/Deep State establishment to suppress the right, including White identity politics.

    Worth noting that the Deep State actually has embraced a form of White identity politics by supporting Ukraine against Russia. Supporting Ukraine expands the EU in the long-run and thus creates a larger white mega-confederation in Europe in the form of the EU. Of course, the EU will also become more multicultural in due time, but it will still have a strong white core.

  3. Anymike says:
    @E_Perez

    Speaking of the Boers and their stubbornness, I am reminded of something Thomas Sowell said which learned of just recently. He pointed out, when people (or ethnic group or subculture) has some of its member migrate to some other land, sometimes those in diaspora hang on to the original culture in its original form the longest. Maybe the Boers are a variation on this idea. Perhaps they should have left en masse when it would have been easier to resettle. If we don’t respect sub Saharan Africa as the black man’s continent, how can we expect the black man in diaspora to respect Africa not only as his ancestral motherland but as a place where he can thinking of living?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  4. Icy Blast says:

    Mr. Stark needs a tutorial on how to use a comma.

  5. Richard B says:

    In other words, the United States is fucked beyond repair.

    Seriously, did anyone come away from this article in general, and Lind’s words in particular, and see any unity at all in the United States now, or any hope of it for the future? The incoherence between the country’s name (United States) and its reality (a divided people) is impossible to miss.

    Those who can see, but won’t say, are cowards. Lind is a good example. And not just Lind. Those who won’t say because they can’t see are delusional, and therefore filled with hope (possibly Lind again). The rest are indifferent. And the stupid don’t count.

    Lind sees institutions as having a major role in facilitating interracial marriages, and applauds the US military for having high rates of interracial marriage, which he also links to patriotism. This reminds me of a speech by former center-right, French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, calling for mass interbreeding between the native French and non-Western immigrants, in order to prevent balkanization.

    Ah! Now we’re getting somewhere. In other words, Lind supports Jewish Supremacy.

    No doubt The Next American Nation is so much political gibberish with a title on the cover. No thanks!

    • Thanks: Z-man
  6. Whenever a headline mentions a person I’ve never heard of, my first reaction is generally to check his Wiki and then try to skim a few of his articles. After doing those things, I quickly came to the conclusion that this Michael Lind fellow is a complicated guy who can’t be quickly pigeonholed.

    Lind is especially critical of Jefferson’s States’ Rights and anti-industrial agrarianism. Of American historical figures, Lind most admires Alexander Hamilton, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Frederick Douglass, while is a staunch critic of both Joe Biden and Donald Trump, as well as Libertarianism.

    Anyone who dislikes Biden, Trump, and Libertarianism can’t be all bad.

    🙂

    • Replies: @Richard B
  7. Distractions distractions (((Ron Unz))) Never talking about the real problem now are you?

    • Agree: Druid55
    • Thanks: Z-man
    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  8. @E_Perez

    June is Pride Month in the USA—get out—paint rainbows- realize Joe Biden praises MacCarthy for a job well well well done —–Debt is not a four letter word —-if you do NOT appreciate GLBTQ human beings then what do Americans stand for ?????

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  9. It doesn’t make any sense.

  10. @Richard B

    So I’ll pose another question: What the (expletive) is wrong with you? What the (expletive) is wrong with all of you who have forced the synapses in your malleable brains to fire in such a way that “Target selling Pride merch” equals “Target funding Satanic child sex grooming”?

    These are the pressing questions DC must address during June !!!!

    • Replies: @Hulkamania
  11. So, what’s Trump? Donalexander?

    • Agree: Mr. XYZ
  12. anonymous[380] • Disclaimer says:
    @E_Perez

    I was working at a pizza place, the boss told me to make pizza dough.. I missed put in the yeast, I ruined the dough.. Once WHITES are gone there will be NO AMERICA.. You can NOT build a WHITE nation without WHITES…

  13. anonymous[380] • Disclaimer says:
    @E_Perez

    Once WHITES are gone AMERICA is gone….I used to work in a pizza place..The bosss told me to make dough…but I forgot the yeast..I ruined the mix…That made him mad. You can NOT make dough without yeast, You can not run a car without gas..so OBCE WHITES ARYANS ARE GONE AMERICA IS GONE..you can not a jewish nation without jews, an African nation without Africans…YOU can have America without WHITES gentile aryans…right??

  14. @E_Perez

    Lind’s thesis is little more than an attack on White Nationalism. A comparison of the U.S. to
    Switzerland is pure casuistry, a banal non sequitur in support of chaos. We know who will
    preside over the chaos, the same unholy alliance which is now wrecking our Nation.

    • Agree: Pastit
  15. @E_Perez

    Lind’s thesis is little more than an attack on White Nationalism. A comparison of the U.S. to Switzerland is pure casuistry, a banal non sequitur in support of chaos.

    We know who will preside over the chaos, the same unholy alliance which is now wrecking our Nation.

  16. Michael Lind starts off speculating how Thomas Jefferson might have envisioned modern day America, circa 2000 AD. Ethnic Americans, defined as Anglo Saxons and other Northwest Europeans, demographically dominate the North American continent, numbering at about 500 Million. This alternative Jeffersonian America would be very ethnocentric, with Non-Whites, as well as Southern and Eastern Europeans, excluded. America would be made up of a series of small hamlets with neo-classical town squares, and an agrarian economy. There would be a series of friendly, ethnically and culturally similar, sister republics, including the Republics of Canada, Oregon, California, and Texas. Unitarianism, Deism, and Free Masonry would be the dominant religions, with Unitarianism becoming a quasi-state religion. There would also be a series of decentralized militias, and a natural aristocracy, based upon the Platonic ideal, selected to be leaders of their various republics.

    Damn, that sounds good, It’s as utopian as it gets.

    Race-ism rules.

  17. Lind is a lowlife pile of garbage who calls for massive ACOWW. A cuck maggot.

  18. Lind believes in America as a proposition nation, founded upon liberalism,

    It is precisely the concept of “America as propositional nation” that is responsible for the present train wreck. First, we had the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965, heavily backed by Jewish interests, which opened the floodgates of non-White immigration. Then, complete Zionist Neocon control of American defence and foreign policy, and much else besides, for the last 30 years. The Neocons certainly believe America is a propositional nation. They dishonestly claim that it is based upon “democracy” and it is America’s duty to defend other “democracies”, like Israel.

    America is a proposition nation, based on Zionism

    That is how the American Government has been operating for many years now, but Lind doesn’t have the honesty to say so, never mind mention the Jews.

    • Replies: @Anon
  19. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    Paradigm of a convoluted article.

    Where’s Linh Dinh when you need him? He’d take the knots out of this issue lickety-split and still throw in some engaging bar stories that would keep you reading until the end.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Fenster
    , @Prester John
    , @Z-man
  20. @Mr. XYZ

    Are you truly that naive? ‘The West’ plans to see as many peoples native to the Ukraine dead as might be possible. They then will fill that land with black Africans and brown Mohammedans. Jews and homosexuals will own almost all of the cesspool. It will house nuclear dumps and bio-weapons labs. It will be like the most Satanic version of the Nazi dream of slaughtering all the Slavs and making the Ukraine a praise for German agriculture.

    The only way that is not the outcome is if Russia can destroy the Ukraine regime installed by the US and UK and force nations like Poland to behave while the Ukraine is fully reincorporated back into the Russian world.

    I have not read Lind’s book. But this review article explains to me why I always have distrusted him even when he makes sense on some small issue. Lind is just another person of nearly pure Germanic ancestry (which includes Anglo-Saxon as well as Dutch, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, etc) whose views always lead back to their basic freak show because that is the telos of Germanic culture that has become anti-Catholic.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
    , @Mr. XYZ
    , @Druid55
  21. Ignoring the lessons of history ALWAYS means we have to learn them again – “Empires are defined as great military and economic powers encompassing large occupied or controlled land areas. Although they vary greatly, they average around 250 years in duration. The United States will be celebrating its 250th anniversary in 2026.”
    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/05/the_decline_and_fall_of_the_american_empire.html – DaHardWay! Interestingly, ancient Israel NEVER learned it….and you can research it yourself on DaLimbraw Library at your own pace – https://crushlimbraw.blogspot.com/2016/03/what-is-this-blog-archive-all-about-cl.html?m=0 – and even more interestingly……their acolytes are at it again!
    They will fail…..AGAIN! Unfortunately, we were too deaf, dumb and blind to notice…..so we’re gonna pay the price as well.
    Yes, stupid is as stupid does!
    BTW – the author of an otherwise good article at AT also missed his mark with Judeo-Christian……oh well!

  22. Fenster says:
    @Anonymous

    Ya I also found it hard to follow. And am I right that the author is reviewing a nearly 30 year old book? I have read a fair amount of recent Lind and am not sure he would stake his reputation on ideas developed a quarter century ago.

  23. Tucker says:
    @E_Perez

    “White Americans “just another racial block”, but “mass assimilation” and “a shared language and culture”?”

    If you are White and pro-White and want to see your race and species of human survive, prosper, and not be rendered extinct – I strongly advise you to be extremely suspicious about anyone who constantly harps on how much they support ‘assimilation’.

    Assimilation is devious acronym for miscegenation, i.e., race mixing. Lind and others who use this assimilation term – at some level – understand the repugnance that rises from the word miscegenation because the targeted group of Whites who they are trying to recruit and brainwash with their B.S. are racially healthy Whites and these are Whites who oppose the White Genocide Agenda of our White race hating jewish elites.

    But, you can trust me on this – in the back of their minds, they are promoting “mass assimilation” because they know that it would be a way to disguise their goal of conditioning Whites to race mix and fully blend their race and species of human out of existence.

    As for that mentally insane and delusional idea that Whites and blacks and millions of non-Whites from the backward third world can cohabitate within the same geographic territory and all have a ‘shared language and culture’ – one would have to be either a complete moron or a devious, scheming, White race genocide craving jewish supremacist to believe such tripe.

    • Thanks: Pastit
  24. Richard B says:
    @E_Perez

    Crude and immature concepts, pretty incoherent, all that.

    Very incoherent.

    But, because of that, it’s also very symptomatic of The Age of Explanatory Collpase. Because that’s the age we’re living in.

    Since any explanation functions by organizing our transactions with the world, when the explanations coming from the elite don’t make sense, and don’t work, you get incomprehensible pieces like this one. In other words, Robert’s article, and Lind’s book, are symptomatic of the aforementioned Explanatory Collapse.

    One of the things that ensures collapse in this case is the assumption that an explanation can be perfect and final. So the explanation in question is never subject to any kind of feedback and correction. This is no small thing. Since feedback and correction is the source of human adaptability.

    In any event, when that explanation is applied to the real world the assumption is revealed and just as quickly concealed, and the explanation is applied by force. Thereby making the collapse of the explanation inevitable. Even if everyone obeyed it. In fact, today, the more people obey the dominant explanatory system, the faster it will collapse.

    And what is the dominant explanatory system today?

    Identity Politics. Of course. And the fact that it is the dominant explanatory system in the West today undermines the Oppressor/Oppressed argument upon which that explanation is based. After all, how can anything dominant be oppressed?

    Speaking of incoherencies.

    Michael Lind is an unabashed American nationalist and hardline assimilationist, who believes that America must retain a shared language and culture.

    Translation: Michael Lind is an unabashed Jewish Supremacist and hardline assimilationist, who believes that America must retain a shared language and culture. FIFY

    The culture that “Americans” must assimilate into is Identity Politics, which is a culture produced and run by Jewish Supremacy. Or, Chutzpah Inc. The lanuage “Americans”, ie; Slaves of Jewish Supreamcy, must speak is English. Because that’ll simplify things. Specifically, though, they’ll be speaking the Orwellian-like language of the dominant explanatory system – Identity Politics. An explanatory system chock-o-block filled with incoherencies, inonsistencies, ambiguities and absurdities. In short, an explanatory system that doesn’t make sense and doesn’t work.

    And now we’re back to why this is The Age of Explanatory Collapse. Again, since explanations function by organizing our transactions with the world, when the dominant explanation of a civilization more complex and unpredictable then ever before in human history collapses, you’re gonna know about it. Everyone will. Whether their head is up their ass or in the sand.

    All the $ and Power in the World isn’t going to be able to stop the collapse if Identity Politics.

    Ironically, the fact that Identity Politics as an explanatory system is headed for collapse, in fact, is already collapsing as we speak, is the one bright spot in what is arguably the darkest period in human history. As a wise man, that Identity Politics is out to cancel, once said, The readiness is all.

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
    , @Anonymous
  25. Richard B says:
    @Zachary Smith

    I quickly came to the conclusion that this Michael Lind fellow is a complicated guy who can’t be quickly pigeonholed.

    A complicated guy and a confusing writer. As I’ve said elsewhere his writing is symptomatic of The Age of Explanatory Collapse that we’re clearly living in. From the point of view of cultural history an argument could be made, in fact was made, that we’ve been in a protracted age of explanatory collapse since the end of the 18th century.

    Anyway, the point is, Lind’s work seems to be symptomatic of that. The same could be said for Stark’s article. In fact, you can see evidence of explanatory collapse pretty much everywhere today. Especially in Identity Politics. Which exists to serve Chutzpah Inc.

    Anyone who dislikes Biden, Trump, and Libertarianism can’t be all bad.

    Maybe so. But anyone who likes Chutzpah Inc. and Identity Politics not only can be all that bad, but is all that bad. From this perspective, Lind is all that bad.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Michael Meo
  26. @Anonymous

    “Where’s Linh Dinh when you need him?”

    Good question. Wasn’t he declared persona non grata? Or am I wrong?

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Richard B
  27. Mefobills says:
    @Charkes the Bald

    It will be like the most Satanic version of the Nazi dream of slaughtering all the Slavs and making the Ukraine a praise for German agriculture.

    Hitler did screw up by wanting Ukraine farmland. During the hyperinflation, much of German farmland had passed into the hands of the (((international creditor))). Germans began to starve.

    Reinhard passed laws in 1933, which made German farm produce higher priced, so German farmers could get back on their feet. At the same time, many farmer debts were released, and most likely many international finance Jew claims on Germany were canceled. During harvest season, college students were encouraged to go to the farms and help out as labor.

    All of this worked, and Germany became food independent. Russia today has paralleled this action, due to western hostility, and now Russia is food independent.

    I can’t speak for Hitler’s hostility to the Slavs, and don’t agree with it. They were and are Aryan people. There are plenty of stories where the Germans found obvious Aryan children in Ukraineregions, and exported them back into Germany for safe keeping. This is in alignment with the stated goal of Germany to re-integrate the German people, who had been scattered in WW1. This is also similar to Russia wanting to re-integrate Russian speakers in the Donbass.

    There is no evidence that Germany wanted to exterminate Slavs and making Ukraine a paradise for German agriculture. This is all based on Mein Kampf, not on actions. The people that were killed in the Ukraine during the war, were for the most part Jewish partisans. There is evidence that Ukraine black land was put on trains, and sent back to Germany to further German agriculture. I doubt the Germans really even needed the black soil, because by then Reinhard’s reforms were working, and German farms were producing plenty of food (ejecting the Jew and his debt mechanisms had many benefits).

    You also have to factor in that Ukraine region was the former pale of settlement, the area from which the Ashkenazi Jews, who caused Germany so much torment, had come from.

    • Replies: @Anon
  28. Liberalism is gay. Lind is gay.

    • Replies: @Onebornfree
  29. ricpic says:

    All pie in the sky nonsense. The 1965 Immigration Act KILLED the American nation. That doesn’t mean there won’t be some, or many, societies here in the future. But ONE nation? ONE culture? ONE people on its plot of land? Done. Fini. And the Act of destruction was completely deliberate.

    All this blending business is nonsense. And anyone who actually looks at people, actual people in their distinctness knows without having to be told that it’s nonsense.

    We are reaping the COWARDICE of so-called conservatives who didn’t, at the moment of truth, oppose the Immigration Act with all their might. They were terrified of being called bigots. That simple.

  30. Anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Verymuchalive

    America is a proposition nation, based on Zionism

    More accurately?
    America is a prostituted nation, based on Zionism

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  31. @Mr. XYZ

    The EU will not have a white core. It will be majority African by the end of this century. Look up the differential birth rates and the migration targets set by the state.

    • Agree: fnn
    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
  32. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mefobills

    During the hyperinflation, much of German farmland had passed into the hands of the (((international creditor))).

    Certainly seeing manipulation of market via government policy & laws that will drive the sell off of certain assets, primarily property & land held by small/family groups.

    … many farmer debts were released, and most likely many international finance Jew claims on Germany were canceled

    Can’t have one White nation get out of line, eh?
    So, declare a world war, with all client/puppet countries sacrificing their best young.

  33. Chris Moore says: • Website

    Integrationists vs. multiculturalists. Schizos vs. tribalists. Where is Christendom vs. these sick, confused, perpetually warring nests of vipers?

    The world is begging for it. The world wants Christian Logos morality imposed upon it. On some level, it knows this is what it’s going to take to survive.

    The sick little ((jew)) terrorist is desperate to stop it, throwing bombs and sabotage into the mix at every opportunity. The sick little ((jew)) is the worst of both worlds — an integrationist multi-culturist, aka schizo-tribalist.

    I propose an international Christian elite to take down these little kike terrorists and their leg-humping stooges. Only the gutless Zoglodytes engineered by the “Jewish Century” wars and revolutions are stopping this.

    That, and a failure of imagination.

    • Replies: @Druid55
    , @Anonymous12890
  34. @GomezAdddams

    Mr. Unz should add a “faggot” button alongside the agree/disagree/troll options for these kinds of posts.

    • LOL: Z-man
  35. @Mr. XYZ

    Ukrainian men are currently in a meat grinder. Some of their women have already fled. Those who run Ukraine, and those Americans who did the color flag revolution and are fomenting war, are all Jewish folks. This war is basically a genocide of the tribe called Ukrainian. Their land is already being claimed by Blackrock. The great mystery is has Russia reacted rationally to provocation, or are they being good goys meat grinding their males of various ethnicities. Unless you are a Hitler purist, it is all about killing more white men, which the CIA approves of.

    Friendly reminder: all white tribes have a serious traitor problem.

    • Agree: GMC, Druid55
  36. Richard B says:
    @Prester John

    “Where’s Linh Dinh when you need him?”

    Good question. Wasn’t he declared persona non grata? Or am I wrong?

    Good question, or questions. In fact, you beat me to it. I was going to ask Prester John that myself. But now that you have, no need. Still, it’d be good to find out.

    Whatever the answer, he’s missed. His essays were smart, funny and interesting. You know you’re dealing with a talented writer when the quality of his work is strong enough to get the reader to look past differences and disagreements. At least that was the case with this reader. TUR lost its only humorist with him.

    Fred Reed stopped being funny a long time ago. Speaking of which, is he no longer self-propelling? Or has he just been put out to pasture?

  37. Z-man says:
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, I miss that fat little Chink.😄

  38. Mefobills says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Unless you are a Hitler purist, it is all about killing more white men, which the CIA approves of.

    Did you not read “below link” article here at UNZ? You need to disabuse yourself of false narratives and fake news. Germany did want their “race” of Germans to be purified of the Jew, as they found themselves in distress, with their tribes scattered, starving, with much of their lands transferred to foreign ownership. Some reports are as much as 1/3 of Germany had been taken from under their feet. This same action was run on Russia in the 90’s, where the Oligarchs tried to take over and own Russia.

    It seems that you are old and grumpy, and still full of false narratives. It is hard for old people to rewrite their brain, to overcome what they think they know. They become grumpy when faced with facts at variance with what they think they know.

    https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/rescue-from-the-matrix/

    ___________________________

    “The aims of the National Socialist German Workers Party… (was) to correct the unemployment caused by unjust reparations forced on Germany… following World War 1 and to put Germany… back together.…

    World War 2 began when the Churchill government and the French… declared war on Germany.……

    The German leader, Adolf Hitler, had reacquired German territories given to Denmark, France and Czechoslovakia by the humiliating Versailles Treaty and had united with German Austria without war…. The British guarantee emboldened the Polish military dictatorship to refuse to negotiate the return of German territory…. All Hitler contributed was to force countries given German territory by the Versailles Treaty to release the lands and the Germans, who were heavily persecuted in Czechoslovakia and Poland. Hitler’s restoration of Germany’s national boundaries was misrepresented in the British and US press as ‘German aggression.’….

    This fake news story of German aggression was used to to build the case that Germany, which was merely recovering its national territory, and rescuing German people from persecution in Czechoslovakia and Poland, was an aggressor with world conquest as its goal…

    Hitler stated many times that he did not want, or intend, war with Britain and France and only intended to recover the lost German populations stolen from Germany by the unjust Versailles Treaty.” Empire Of Lies, Paul Craig Roberts, Korsgaard Publishing, page 280, 2023

    • Replies: @whew
    , @Lurker
  39. There haven’t been 3 American revolutions. There was one. The next change in government will have no comparison in American history. The civil war was more like a failed regional rebellion than a full-blown civil war. Compared to the 30 years’ war in Germany, wars of the roses in England, the 30 year struggle between Communist and Nationalist Chinese, etc., there hasn’t really been a civil war of that scale in North America yet.

    The American revolution saw warfare across most of the settled territories of British North America for a generation. This is the most likely outcome.

    Unlike other civic nationalists, Lind does not try to revise the originalism of America’s founding as compatible with modern liberalism, and views the Founders as White Supremacists. Lind is especially critical of Jefferson’s States’ Rights and anti-industrial agrarianism.

    Good take. He’s right.

    A lot of the rest of the article lacks imagination, however…

    Basically, pan-enclavism or symmetrical multiculturalism taking hold in the future, even using “my terms” right-wing multiculturalism and enclaves. Lind co-wrote a book calling for a Radical Center,

    This won’t last peaceably. Boomers like the author lack imagination in how bad things can really get. There will be blood, and what this actually describes is warlordism.

    Lind predicts the formation of a new caste system, under rightwing multiculturalism, where different races take on various roles and form tactical alliances with one another.

    This has been tried. The Chinese, Jews, and Indians end up with all the money. The Chinese don’t need you anymore. The Jews can see the writing on the wall and will try to deflect blame onto the Hindu, who are nearly at the six million mark.

    that White Californians are a prototype for America’s multiethnic future

    Pfffft no those people are already getting their farms robbed regularly and may end up losing everything, including their lives and offspring in a general crisis.

    40.3% of America’s electorate are populists, supporting Social Security while opposing immigration, while another 6.2%

    Doesn’t matter. Voting doesn’t matter for the revolution scenario. Boomers are too old to fight and will likely die off en masse. Already starting. What matters is what the fighting men (yes, men) think.

    Lind sees institutions as having a major role in facilitating interracial marriages, and applauds the US military for having high rates of interracial marriage, which he also links to patriotism. This reminds me of a speech by former center-right, French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, calling for mass interbreeding between the native French and non-Western immigrants, in order to prevent balkanization.

    Actual mixed-race people (like me) do not think this way. At all. Maybe mulattoes do. The U.S. military can’t be funded anymore, so a lot of those families will fall apart, often violently, when the free money stops. I don’t really feel any kinship with other mixed-race people unless they have the same ancestry as me. As far as blacks are concerned: one-drop rule makes you a negro. History has proven time and again that not all half-breeds are created equal. The Normans were rulers. The Mulattoes were house servants.

    so expect either balkanization or a deracinated mass consumer culture to fill that void. I want to be able to say that I am the prophet of the new realignment,

    Deracinated mass consumer culture was tried. United States has been living way beyond its means since Reagan. The bills are coming due. Balkanization? Maybe. But the United States is a big and glorious enough country, and largely linguistically united that the dream of unity will persist. Ancient Chinese history is probably the best historical analog to follow because of:

    – the self confidence of the nation
    – the high degree of technological advancement
    – geographical isolation makes foreign interference prohibitively costly

    In my view the two most likely scenarios are:

    – “Three Kingdoms” style partition: White Yankeedom, Negro-Saxon Dixie (the Confederacy reasserts itself), and Hispanic Southwest, possibly joining Mexico. The Asians can keep certain West Coast cities as New World Hong Kong and Macao. Hawaii would be like Taiwan.
    – Warlordism, like in early 20th century China or Spain
    – “Caliphate of the Americas” based on fundamentalist Mormonism

    I think the most likely scenario is 2 and 3.

    Though this was a good article for discussion the author is more stereotypical boomer than prophet.

    “For the Lord would not suffer, after he had led them out of the land of Jerusalem and kept and preserved them from falling into the hands of their enemies, yea, he would not suffer that the words should not be verified, which he spake unto our fathers, saying that: Inasmuch as ye will not keep my commandments ye shall not prosper in the land.
    Wherefore, the Lord did visit them in great judgment; nevertheless, he did spare the righteous that they should not perish, but did deliver them out of the hands of their enemies.”

    – Omni 1:6-7, the Book of Mormon (Another Testament of Jesus Christ)

  40. @Anon

    America is a Golem nation, based on Zionism

    That’s more accurate. Most Americans have been brainwashed by the MSM, the State “Education” system et al into Golems for Zion. Even Wikipedia has to admit:
    In Modern Hebrew, golem is used to mean “dumb” or “helpless”

    Very nasty and horrible things are happening and will continue to happen to dumb American Golems. Most of them, brainwashed to the core, will be quite unable to understand why. I’m not American and I don’t gloat on this, but think that a lot of people are going to be crushed before things get better.

    • Agree: Pablo
    • Replies: @Pablo
  41. Munga Bulga [AKA "Multiculti Madness"] says:

    Syrian “refugee” demolishes 245 cars with a hammer over several weeks, damage several hundred thousand euros. https://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/hamburg-aktuell/autohasser-von-hamburg-endlich-gefasst-syrer-zerhaemmerte-245-pkw-scheiben-84152754.bild.html

    And who will pay for this madness (“enrichment”) again? Of course, the stupid German taxpayers. As long as they vote for anti-German parties over and over again, they have only themselves to blame.

  42. che guava says:

    advocating for

    Learn your language. The ‘for’ is worse than redundant, ‘advocating’ is correct.

  43. Onebornfree says: • Website
    @Hulkamania

    Hah! Hitler and most ass-ociated cohorts were also apparently gay, (as was Churchill) 🙂 .

    See: “PRIDE! — Most Nazi Leaders Were Homosexuals”:

    https://henrymakow.com/2023/05/pride----nazi-leaders-were-hom.html

    And so it goes….. 🙂

    “Regards”, onebornfree
    https://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/
    https://onebornfreesfinancialsafetyreports.blogspot.com/

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  44. Pablo says:

    Garbage. Lind doesn’t know History. If Whites of “North Western European descent” become “just another Bloc” then the Ideals that founded this Nation will die off. History proves that the cliche “Might makes Right” is TRUE. The Black “bloc” in the USA has too much rage and Hatred towards Whites to accept Whites on ANY level. Blacks should be the last racial group to complain about prejudice. THEY are as prejudiced as any White “Supremacist” Or any Jewish “Liberal” masquerading as a promoter of “Multiculturalism” and “Diversity” for that matter. Lind seems to be asking, “Can’t we all get along?” Well maybe we could if Blacks weren’t so violent. Check out the Black-on-White Crime rate sometime. Quota systems and/or Set asides or deeply unfair to the group left out. Sooner or later this will boil over.

  45. Pablo says:
    @Verymuchalive

    As an American, let me put it this way. Many Americans are just plain STUPID. They believe in what the MSM tells them. They watch garbage TV. They receive substandard educations–and don’t complain about it. They consume foods, many of which have ingredients that are BANNED in a lot of Countries. Too many Americans believe the complete fabrication that Israel is where The Chosen Ones live. Too many Americans allow the US war Machine to carry Endless Wars decade after decade with not a peep of protest. And this is the result of a coordinated, long-term Plan carried out by those who want to Rule.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
  46. Reading a post on unz review by a name I don’t recognize is always a probationary act. You needn’t waste your time with those writers who mindlessly blame the ills of the entire world on a particular ethnic group.

    This one discusses, in the first paragraph, a book published in 1995, and then tells the reader that the author of that book dislikes both Donald Trump and Joe Biden.

    I had to stop reading at that point. Both of these figures were alive some 30 years ago, but the pundits who took the time to oppose their policy recommendations were nonexistent. Maybe, just maybe, one might find criticism of Biden; but at that time Trump was apolitical. The sentence can only refer to the present; the essay is incoherent.

  47. @Richard B

    I see this delusional imbecile as a phantasist who derives his prescriptions and proscriptions from video games, or similar sources.

    • Troll: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Anonymous
  48. @Richard B

    I agree with you, Richard B, about the lack of clear thinking in the post we are discussing: I just don’t post enough here to be allowed just to push the “agree” button.

    As for the suggestion that “explanatory collapse” has dominated political discussion, among other areas of discourse, ever since the Enlightenment, I object strenuously. Counter-Enlightenment literature, broadly speaking, was clear and cogent (Herzen, Darwin, Pareto, for example). I guess if you argue that Romantic ideology — such as that of Karl Marx — dominated the culture despite the efforts of opponents of the Enlightenment, I’d have to take the point. But John Stuart Mill, clearly both dominant in the discussion and a child of Enlightenment ethics, was admirably crisp in argumentation. Abraham Lincoln was another master of explanatory prose.

    We are today, in the 21st century, flooded with incoherent ranting and illogical, self-contradictory argumentation. The opinion section of the newspapers are full of people who consider it valuable that they share their feelings about sundry topics, without ever suspecting the necessity of explaining said feelings. My own explanation of this observable reality is, that we tend to operate under the cultural delusion that the American Empire is beneficent and immortal.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  49. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Old and Grumpy

    Friendly reminder: all white tribes have a serious traitor problem.

    No, they have a serious Judas problem. All tribes have a serious Judas problem… a problem that needs to be corrected. Same with all integrtionist schizos.

  50. India and Brazil stand up to Jews but Anglos totally cucked to them.

    Why?

    Why did the most powerful people totally cuck to Jews while weaker peoples stand up to Jews?



    Video Link

  51. Mefobills says:
    @Onebornfree

    Hah! Hitler and most ass-ociated cohorts were also apparently gay, (as was Churchill) 🙂
    _____________

    Then the retard gives us his regards.

    People always make evidence free claims. Churchill might have been gay, as may of the London elites were.

    There is no evidence of the gay with Hitler. Gay men don’t try to make their nation’s boys more masculine. Gay men are predators and want to convert young boys to gaydom. In the Hitler schools, weak and effeminate boys tended to be weeded out.

    If anything, the closest analog to Hitler would be Xi in China. Xi is trying to re-masculinize Chinese culture, and is against the metrosexual K-Pop invasion.

    Hitler had many decorations won in WW1. He was also temporarily blinded by some sort of nerve gas. These types of people don’t want to go to war, because they have seen it first hand. They also lived in a time when there were big divisions between men and women. Hitler also sent women back home, to the home life. This is not the action of a gay man.

    Stupid people always make claims, they never bother to question the false narratives bouncing around in their empty skulls.

    If you say something, be sure you can back it up. An of course, pretty much all Libertarians have something wrong with their brain function – or at least that is my conclusion after too many close encounters with these degenerate types.

    • LOL: Gvaltar
  52. @Richard B

    I read that Lind book and was less than impressed.

    He did make some salient points about the way of the elites and the need for a new broad civic nationalism.

    But like most others of his kind, he didn’t name the Jewish Power that was hellbent on preventing the rise of Lind’s preferred vision or the populist-nationalist one(like of Buchanan), let alone the dissident right ones.

    Lind talks big but rings hollow because, like Buckley from whom he cut ties, he won’t address the core issue of American Power, that willful Jews rule and deracinated Anglos serve Jews, and Anglo brown-nosing serves as the template for all immigrant groups who do likewise and suck up to Zion.

    Btw, Lind seems to think the race issue could be solved by massive race-mixing, which is really black men humping white women. But this is BS. First of all, even mulattoes with little black blood identify as black, indeed even more so to prove their racial credentials as badass. So, the idea that race mixing will result in some unified race is totally bogus.
    Likewise, even 1/2 and 1/4 Jewish kids identify as Jewish as whiteness has been rendered the mark of cain by Jewish Power.

    Also, even if existing blacks are race-mixed with whites, what about all the new ones coming from Africa? Lind doesn’t discuss that.
    His vision of ‘civic nationalism’ is so utterly BS because it would mean equal values and virtues for all. Jews rule the US, and they don’t want to be equal with goyim and use diversity to play divide-and-rule.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  53. @GomezAdddams

    And don’t forget the very awkward-sounding Juneteenth on the 19th, the high holiday to wallow in African idolatry. Imagine the joy of being a Queer Nigger in the heat of June.

    Your liabilities have become virtues, your fudge pack is melting along with the ice pack and despite your STD’s you have never felt more vivacious and alluring. To top it off the dumb ass Government is giving you an extra day off from the job where you have never done any work. Life is good.

    • Replies: @Adolf Smith
    , @loren
  54. jsigur says:

    The only political strategy for us who don’t like what is going on now in society is to stand strong for Nationalism while refusing to accept and putting our foot down on the woke ideology mind virus.

    To be woke is to see American history in negative terms which then opens the logic of internationalism over nationalism of which signs are running rampant that the land is being prepared for

    It is looking more and more like whites are to be singled out via false flag terrorism to enable some sort of white world takeover strategy of which in order to fight more freedoms must be taken away

    All of these negatives I expect to happen by 2030. The situation is dire

  55. 14 Years in Prison for Embarrassing the Government | Matt Kennard


    Video Link

    • Thanks: Z-man
  56. I must admit I do not understand this essay.

    • Replies: @dogismyth
  57. Richard B says:
    @Priss Factor

    Thanks for your response Priss Factor.

    Great comment! Couldn’t agree more.

    And thanks for all the video posting you do.
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who appreciates it.

  58. Richard B says:
    @Poupon Marx

    I see this delusional imbecile as a phantasist who derives his prescriptions and proscriptions from video games, or similar sources.

    My Dear PM,

    As you well know, I see your insults as compliments.
    So, all I can say is, keep them coming.

    Until then,

    Thanks for the compliment!

    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  59. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Charkes the Bald

    Are you truly that naive? ‘The West’ plans to see as many peoples native to the Ukraine dead as might be possible. They then will fill that land with black Africans and brown Mohammedans. Jews and homosexuals will own almost all of the cesspool. It will house nuclear dumps and bio-weapons labs. It will be like the most Satanic version of the Nazi dream of slaughtering all the Slavs and making the Ukraine a praise for German agriculture.

    Where exactly is that happening to Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, et cetera right now?

  60. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Hulkamania

    The EU’s breeders should eventually boost its birth rate back up due to them becoming a larger and larger share of the total population of the EU:

    https://gwern.net/doc/genetics/selection/natural/human/2018-collins.pdf

    And source for the migration targets, please?

  61. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Blame Russia for this meatgrinder. It could have avoided invading Ukraine, you know?

    What’s next: Blaming the Anglo-French for all of the suffering that Poland endured during WWII for encouraging the Poles to resist Hitler’s demands?

  62. Munga Bulga [AKA "Multiculti Madness"] says:

    It’s been no laughing matter for a long time. In reality, the grotesque “demands” of the spoiled invaders show one thing above all: that politics, indeed society as a whole, has long since lost control over the processes within society. Oriental “parallel societies” are created, which exist with their clan structures completely disconnected from any legal conception of the host country.

  63. @JonesHenry

    Your comment is a perfect example of what happens when someone makes an absolute declaration based on-in your case-no research, investigation, or reconnaissance. I take it your job is one where sloppiness, erratic results, inadequate performance are easily overlooked or smoothed over due to the lack of consequence.

    Ron Unz has very frequently

    EXPLICITY

    referenced Jews and all aspects of their behavior, origins, etc, etc. You a sloppy person because you made a statement without due diligence, a high confidence level, from a thorough review of his writings and comments. That is what the “Search” function is for.

    You need to apologize for your inaccuracy and own up to inappropriate and public pre- ejaculation. Also, your sentence syntax is below that of a 13 year old. It would seem you would be more in your element talking about sports hubcaps.

  64. @24th Alabama

    I hear Lizzo’s in town!

    • Replies: @24th Alabama
  65. dogismyth says:

    Isn’t the title of this article backwards? Liberal nationalism? Maybe liberal multiculturalism!

    Lind is an establishment man and apparently a queer with jewish roots. Yes, I know that last part is redundant. He’s worked all the establishment outposts so I give him -1,000,000 for making a feeble attempt at whatever bullsh#t he dishing out.

    next!

  66. dogismyth says:
    @Dennis Patrick Spain

    good, next time research the author and save yourself some time. Even if Lind told me what I wanted to hear, I wouldnt believe him.

  67. @Anymike

    ‘…If we don’t respect sub Saharan Africa as the black man’s continent, how can we expect the black man in diaspora to respect Africa not only as his ancestral motherland but as a place where he can thinking of living?’

    This is like arguing that your dog should help with the taxes. Why is it reasonable to expect anything of blacks at all?

  68. KenR says:

    From what I gather solely from this article, Michael Lind revolts me. These Proposition Nation people need to be utterly rejected wherever they are encountered. Given such a mentality, these people always arrive at the primacy of their cherished ideas and prejudices and then the subordination and shaping of men to fit them.

    This is how we come to this top-down driven lunacy that compels us to clap for the trannies. And it’s how we’ve arrived at an aggressive, bullying foreign policy that has landed us the top spot in the annals of human history when it comes to global scourges, as we imperiously and capriciously export little but usury and sodomy and war to every possible corner of the globe.

    The reality is not that the Grand American Project needs new blood for the veins of the Proposition Nation. The reality is that it must die.

  69. @Adolf Smith

    Lieber Herr Schmidt:

    Overjoyed to hear Lizzo’s back in town! Did she bring Myke Wright with her?
    He is incredibly funny but no one has seen him since Lizzo invited him to
    “Break and Enter.” Rumor has it that he forgot the 2×4′.

  70. D'Marcus says:

    If Lind doesn’t want to see a balkanized USSA, he’d better get his liberal ass busy assimilating the hordes crossing the border. And stop telling the blacks that they are owed reparations and stop the tranny train along with the other weirdo sexual deviant crap that is foisted on the public daily… My 7 year old identifies as non binary… Jesus Christ. What a shit show on all levels.
    A balkanized future is probably the best scenario that could occur (I mean one of separate cantons like Switzerland)… as the country loses the ability to maintain its massive welfare state as the dollar fades and the US with it… it is gonna get back to bareknuckle brawling among the polyglot disparate tribes..
    The I phone and consumerism is really all this country is.. It has no commonality to make it an actual country anymore.
    On that score… do you think you are going to really beat Russia which is a country?

  71. shahnameh says:

    Another Pillsbury dough bitch who wishes to espouse on war(ASU-home of the McStain tribe) and the off chance he might think Putin is Hitler. This guy looks like the love child of Lindsey Graham.

  72. Richard B says:
    @Michael Meo

    Thanks for your response Michael. Great comment.

    As for the suggestion that “explanatory collapse” has dominated political discussion, among other areas of discourse, ever since the Enlightenment, I object strenuously.

    Yes. I should explain what is meant by explanatory collapse. The term doesn’t refer to the quality of discourse or writing. It has to do with an individual or culture’s relationship to its explanations. Especially its dominant explanation, or explanatory system.

    Explanatory Collapse is by no means an uncommon experience. It’s generally preceded by some kind of personal or cultural trauma. To use an example from your comment, some one who believes that the American Empire is beneficient and immortal might be so traumatized by a specific event that it can bring down their belief in the American Empire. This is what is meant by Explanatory Collapse.

    Meaning, the explanation they might believe in, and share with others when defending the country, or simply explaining what it means to them, collapses as a result of a traumatic reaction to a specific event. Of course, this is what happened to a number of Americans after September 11th, 2001. Just to give one example.

    Another example could be found with those who were at one time believing Christians. They may come to a point where they begin to question their beliefs. As a result they might find it hard, or impossible, to reconcile the idea of a benevolent God with the existence of Evil.

    And since we both mentioned the Enlightenment in our comments, we could use that as an example too. Because for many who supported the Enlightenment, the ultimate test was The French Revolution. Here was a vast political endeavor in which an enormous effort was made to put the Enlightenment faith into practice, in a situation supported by the enthusiam of millions of people, both in France and other countries.

    And what happened?

    It released, social, emotional, and moral forces of which the Enlightenment tradition had been totally ignorant. In short, it released The Terror. It didn’t make men better, as promised by its believers, it made them worse, as a political utopia turned into a bloody dictatorship. As a result, the explanatory system that was the Enlightenment collapsed for some of its believers.

    And that’s why we are still living in an Age of Explanatory Collapse. Because what collapsed in the West at the end of the 18th century was Explanation itself. The idea that humans can create a theology or ideology that corresponds in every way with the world we live in. An explanation that can solve all of mankinds social and economic problems. That is what is meant by the phrase Explanatory Collapse.

    Some might see this as a distressing state of affairs. But to more courageous spirits it represents an opporunity. Whether that opporunity is seized, and responded to accordingly, is another story.

    Thanks again for your response.

  73. @Richard B

    It seems that you are implying strongly that you would like salt rubbed into your wounds after a Singapore caning. B & D is not for me; S & M is for them. Et tu Pluto?

    • Replies: @Richard B
  74. Richard B says:
    @Mr. XYZ

    The bottom line is this.

    If what defines a culture is that the people in it have a common mode of self-definition then there is no American culture.

    This is the explanation for why Chutzpah Inc. wants Israel to be Jewish and The United States to be not just non-white, but anti-white.

    This will continue until:
    a) Whites stand up and fight back
    b) Whites are enslaved and incapable of fighting back
    c) There are no more Whites
    d) Chutzpah Inc.’s intellectual, social, moral, and economic Ponzi Scheme collapses on itself

    Choose what you will. For me, since d) is a process already well underway, I choose that. The justification for this choice can be found in the fact that, since psychotic arrogance and self-awareness don’t go together, Chutzpah Inc. is incapable of seeing, let alone grasping, the fact that No American Culture = No More Chutzpah Inc. – anywhere.

    Of course, Whites en masse might not be able to do anything about it after the fact. But that’s neither here nor there. Since Whites have only ever done great things not en masse, but as a critical mass. Even Chutzpah Inc. knows that much.

  75. whether San Fransicko can “reinvent itself”, despite rampant homelessness, drugs, corruption, fraud, human feces, lease signs everywhere, tech biz layoffs, etc.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/may/28/san-francisco-vacant-buildings-housing-doom-loop

    Yet here’s a piece about some1 hittin’ the road :
    https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/03/10/so-long-san-francisco

    think San Fransicko is a symbol of what Amerikkka is becoming. So the question could be asked another way: Can Amerikkka reinvent itself? Lol.

    Of course, The core of the propaganda/marketing term: “American dream”. Which is economic and techno expansions -endlessly. Infinite growth.

    But endless infinite ‘growth’ is a term most often applied to cancer. How many USAians make the connection?
    Crickets.

  76. Munga Bulga [AKA "Multiculti Madness"] says:

    Henrik had a nice Canadian named Alex Vriend (Dutch for Friend, German Freund) as a guest today. https://odysee.com/@redicetv:1/resistance-against-lgbt-despite-special-protection-ff-ep216:2

    Against him a nasty defamation article was put into the world. https://web.archive.org/web/20230603221611/https://www.antihate.ca/holocaust_denier_travelling_canada_building_up_far_right_militia_diagolon_alex_vriend

    Who does such a thing? “The organization is modelled after and supported by the American Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC).” Chair of this “organization” is the notorious Jew Bernie Faber, who was already after Ernst Zündel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Anti-Hate_Network
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Farber

    “Dont’ pay the Ferryman” in the defamation article apparently alludes to the title of a hit song by “Argentine” Irishman Chris de Burgh, every mother-in-law’s favorite crooner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Pay_the_Ferryman

    “De Burgh’s maternal grandfather was Sir Eric de Burgh, a British Army officer who had been Chief of the General Staff in India during the Second World War.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_de_Burgh

    Now Mr. de Burgh has not only released a concept album called “The Legend of Robin Hood”, but also composed a musical based on it together with a German named Dennis Martin, which all in all does not seem tremendously innovative now. Apparently the musical has managed to appear without a woke Negro cast.

    Video Linkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypcAUN5IlSQ

    An elderly lady and compatriot of his talks to him about having spent her vacations as a child on the island where he lived for 16 years. He says he knows the lady’s “Aunt Lily” on the island. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalkey_Island

    Video Link
    But what is more interesting is that it was de Burgh’s ancestor who was after Robin Hood. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_de_Burgh,_Earl_of_Kent

    This admirer is also present at his premiere in Hamelin. Could he also imagine composing a musical about the Pied Piper of Hamelin? Very well says Mr. den Burgh, however, it would have a happy ending with him. After the short interview (in English), she accompanies him through Hameln’s city center.

    Video Link
    As a “gag”, the gentle singer tries to lift a heavy concrete block that is “camouflaged” with advertisements for his musical (min. 8:53). Whether Mr. de Burgh even comes to mind, what these monsters are meant for? Because it’s Christmas time in Hamelin right now, and these blocks are there to keep Islamic terrorist “Trucks of Peace” from speeding into the crowds.

    • Replies: @Munga Bulga
  77. Once again, without the whites, America would not be America but a Third World shithole.

    • Agree: Pastit
  78. Druid55 says:

    Blah blah blah blah. What a crap article

  79. Druid55 says:
    @Charkes the Bald

    Charles, you bald islamophobe. The whole idea is for a new zio-israhell in the conquered land, you moron. Khaziora. Guys like you are so stupid it makes me think we tryare buggered

  80. Druid55 says:
    @Chris Moore

    Christianity is dead. Nominal christians who live like harlots is the west. Done in by Jewish agendas. I’m not christian bit I remember nativity scenes all over and Christmas spirit and i loved it. People were nice. I came here in 1973 and have seen all the changes and recognised the {{{culprits}}} early on. Americans were asleep and naive. “It could never happen here” was the mantra. Sad!

  81. Whites need to learn from the Palestinians as they face White Nakba engineered by Jews.

    Whites need their own BDS movement. Boycott, divest, and sanction any Jewish business or organization that is hostile to white folks. Any Jewish entity that promotes BLM, Globo-Homo, and etc should be targeted for destruction. One by one.

    How is it that the lowly Palestinians have more cojones than the mighty whites who are now balless wussy maggot cucks of Zion?

    https://bdsmovement.net/BDS-G4S-Victory

  82. whew says:
    @Mefobills

    Germans calling Empire their territory is like Hungary proclaiming Greater Hungary when none of the land they claim is actually Hungarian. You people need to be fair, and reasonable.

    Germans were not persecuted in Czechoslovakia, you sound like a Jew. Germans had absolutely no problem occupying, administering, and populating, land that was not majority German (like most of Bohemia). They only became a majority in parts of Western Bohemia after an atrocious ethnic cleansing during the Thirty Years’ War. The Czechs were far from persecutorial, and given the circumstances, they were very reasonable towards the Germans who they treated far better than they were treated by the Germans – the only contention was the lack of allowing so-called “Sudetenland” to secede from Czechoslovakia, a portion of Bohemia that was always a part of Bohemia and that contained ancient historic Czech territory like the location of the Czech founding myth Říp Mountain. It would’ve been a Kosovo.

    Had the Germans been reasonable, WW2 would’ve been avoided. But, even after taking advantage of the extreme Czech reasonability, they pushed the Polaks (who they should’ve known wouldn’t be as reasonable) over a tiny sliver of land because of a railroad in the age of trains, planes, and motor-powered ships (so, so, so very stupid).

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  83. @Pablo

    I think you are too pessimistic. Once the USD ceases to be the world’s reserve currency, economic, social and political collapse beckon. Partition is the likely result. At least some of the entities that replace America will meet the needs of White Americans much better than the present system. It will be like the dissolution of the Soviet Union but much more violent.

  84. @Chris Moore

    I agree with the other user. Christianity is in terrible form, maybe even dead.

    A resurrection and miracle could save it (if you believe in those), and then almost certainly it will be a Christianity that is so foreign. Its only been under attack for 300 years or more. The heat turned on in the last 100 years and the enemies of Christianity have decimated it.

    The Enlightenment, liberalism, secularism, republicanism, capitalism, socialism, freemasonry and Jews. They won.

    Christianity is divided, weak, and very liberal outside tiny pockets and third worlders.

    All the major groups here: Catholic, Protestants, and Orthodox are all severely underperforming and in dialogue or infiltrated by their enemies.

    That ignores the multiracial, race mixing, mass immigration, and other huge problems in society.

  85. Anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Poupon Marx

    Richard B:

    Your post is a great exposition. In technical terms, you’re describing Postmodernism, a philosophical school of skeptical thought that rejects (as you say very well) all “Grand Narratives”, which you refer to in the much more easily understood phrase of “The Age of Explanatory Collapse”. Postmodernism is the foundation “political reality”, which is the belief system of all professional politicians.

    The trouble with radical skepticism of any form, Postmodernism for example, was described IMHO best by Hume’s AD 1700s comment that (paraphrase) “Radical Skeptics, who say they believe in nothing, still use open doorways rather than walking through walls to enter and leave a room”. His point being that the Radical Skeptics do have revealed beliefs.

    And the current Radical Skeptics believe in street fighters and lawfare and propaganda, an political reality manufactured through force and deception. Their problem, as you point it, is that an industrial society cannot be managed without a Grand Narrative. In fact, nothing can — Postmodernism propaganda is itself a “Grand Narrative”, and, as above, the self styled skeptics actions show a (very crude) understanding of a very simple fixed social reality (example: Whites are evil, Orange Man Bad).

    And, yes, the Target and Bud Light and the economic collapse of the Postmodernist urban areas and the end of the petrodollar (coupled with the creation of the petro-bitcoin, of all things) and the resistance to castrating children through the public schools shows that the US public has about reached its limit. Should the US lose the EU alliance to the Russian Federation (as seems likely), raw poverty will push the US public well beyond its limits.

    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Poupon Marx
  86. Munga Bulga [AKA "Multiculti Madness"] says:
    @Munga Bulga

    As his latest video shows, de Burgh not only considers Nelson Mandela and MLK to be quasi-saints. I have seldom seen someone who manages to put so many lies and hypocrisy in one go in so few minutes as in this interview (first 4 vids in the playlist).

    It starts with the hypocrisy of using Robin Hood’s principle of “taking from the greedy, giving to the needy” as a multimillionaire who comes from a family of British profiteers of “empire” and who grew up in a castle with a golden spoon in his mouth.

    He, moreover, who does not dare to question the power of the powerful (“you will own nothing, and you will be happy”), but takes all the lies at face value. He considers General Franco an “oppressor”.

    He also believes that “during the Crusades to Jerusalem Muslims were slaughtered en masse” (although it was the other way around: the Muslims slaughtered millions of Europeans).

    He thinks that the psychopathic puppet of the world destroyers, Infant Terrible Greta Thunberg, is not a made-up foul progaganda coup and hoax, but a kind of “honorable child heroine”.

    “De Burgh has a noted interest in war history, especially that of the First and Second World Wars. His songs contain numerous references to soldiers and battle, and in 2006 he purchased a rare First World War letter written by an unknown soldier.”

    One can vividly imagine what his uncritical “postcard historical view” consists of. De Burgh has no legitimate doubts about those in power, but believes in the existence of “poltergeists”.

    Moreover, the evil vaccine deniers would be subject to a ridiculous fallacy and talk nonsense. In addition, he is in favor of adhering to “social distancing.” Mr. de Burgh is made of wax, the natural born opportunist.

    He says what the powerful and mainstream opinion want to hear most, because his main concern is not to cause a stir, but to be liked. His Canadian interviewer agrees with him without exception in all the silly nonsense he spouts.

    “De Burgh has said that he is ‘certainly a believer in Christ.’” There should be no doubt about that whatsoever. Just as he believes in the immaculate conception, he also believes that his Jew-god Jesus walked on water and turned water into wine. After all, de Burgh knows wine:

    “In 2011 bottles from de Burgh’s vintage wine cellar sold for over $500,000, including a world record set for a magnum collection of postwar vintages.” I don’t suppose, however, that this self-proclaimed Robin Hood donates his proceeds to a charity such as Children’s Cancer Services.

    • Thanks: Richard B
  87. Lind is simultaneously for mass assimilation while decoupling American identity from Whiteness. Lind has a sense of America’s civic identity as being based upon the English language and common folk culture/traditions, ranging from Westerns to Film Noir.

    This can’t work because all the bases of a civic identity in America are white. In fact, not only white, but often tied up with conflicts between whites and other races. The referenced Westerns, for example, are all either lilly white stories or stories where whites have conflicts with Indians or occasionally touch on the Civil War and include issues related to slavery. The fact that Gone with the Wind, long considered one of the greatest movies of all time is currently banned from being shown or sold shows where we are headed–completely dismantling American civic history, brown-washing everything, and starting over with a single-party multi-ethnic state that doesn’t refer to the Founding Fathers for its political inspiration. It will either fail to hold together or become totalitarian (another failure mode for a society).

    Lind also suggests Alexander Hamilton as one of the heroes of the new American civil religion, and envisions a colorful, Mexican-style, painted, statue of Hamilton, as a new national monument..

    LOL. Mexican Hamilton. What a dumb idea. Prescient though, since we did get a black Hamilton in a musical. As everyone knows, while that was popular, it failed to make dent in American identity and was widely regarded as a joke by the Right and treated just as “latest thing” by the Left and recognized by all as an attack on whiteness rather than a real transcendence of race.

  88. Richard B says:
    @Poupon Marx

    Psycho Trolls like you are sad proof that the TUR comment section is not exactly a hot bed of mental health.

    Being a psycho troll, you’re also by definition suffering from the delusion that everyone needs and wants your approval. That’s why any insult from a psycho troll is a compliment to the rest of us living in reality.

    So, like I said, keep those compliments coming. That way the rest of the commenters here can see for themselves, and judge accordingly. Who knows? Though it’s unlikely, maybe in time TUR can find a way to weed out the psycho trolls.

  89. Richard B says:
    @Anonymous

    What an intelligent and thoughful comment response. Thank you!

    I agree with what you wrote about in your comment regarding Radical Skeptics and Postmodernism, which I always thought was a kind of silly and absurd term; though it did direct attention to the fact that some term or word was needed.

    But I think part of the reason that the word Postmodernism is silly, and pretentious, is because there already was a far more useful word available. I’m referring to that period of cultural history known as Romanticism. Maybe it would be better for us to have another word. But that one still seems to be the best one available.

    Briefly, Romanticism represents a sharp break with the rationalizing and sentimentalizing Enlightenment. In its most developed form it also rejects skepticism and cynicism as well. But to explain why would take us far beyond a comment response.

    Romanticism, in short, was a reaction against, and a rejection of, The Enlightenment. And since The Enlightenment was a response to all previous explanations, Platonic, Christian, etc. Romanticism was ultimately a rejection of Explanation itself, as it existed up until that time. Meaning explanation as a Salvation System that if believed in and followed could solve all of our social, moral, or economic problems. That’s why all preceding religious and political systems came with either a heaven or utopia. Because in those places all of our problems are solved, and solved forever.

    In any event, and as it relates to our comment exchange, Radical Skepticism, Postmodernism, and Deconstructionism, are all best explained by Romanticism which properly subsumes them. Far from rejecting belief in anything, Romanticism revitalizes belief, and respect for tradition (it just doesn’t fetishize tradition, as the political Right tends to do), for that matter. It just rejects the notion that any explanation of the world can be perfect and final. And it most definitely rejects ideological thinking of the Left and Right. But it does not reject the idea that some explanations are better than others.

    So the question then becomes, What are the best explanations?
    We could reframe the question and put it this way.
    What is the difference between a good explanation and a bad one?
    A good explanation is one that is willing to expose itself to a continuous process of feedback and correction. And a bad one isn’t.

    And by “good” is meant simply reliable. But to confirm that reliability, you’d have to test it. Which brings us to yet another difference between good and bad explanations. Because bad explanations don’t want to be tested, or even used. They demand to be believed in and imposed by force.

    Speaking of belief. One thing I definitely believe is that moving in the direction of good explanations, just might help to make us more modest, and less murderous. It’s also my belief, confirmed by years of experience with it, that Romanticism can help us move in that direction. Or at least point the way.

    Thanks again for an excellent comment response.

    • Agree: Munga Bulga
  90. @Anonymous

    Your post is a great exposition. In technical terms, you’re describing Postmodernism, a philosophical school of skeptical thought that rejects (as you say very well) all “Grand Narratives”, which you refer to in the much more easily understood phrase of “The Age of Explanatory Collapse”. Postmodernism is the foundation “political reality”, which is the belief system of all professional politicians.

    Thanks. I find your post, the use of abstract monikers and constructs to be problematic and symptomatic. In your use of Post Modernism, Grand Narratives, Explanatory Collapse, which is common in the epistemology and ontology in the West, reveals the weakness and inadequacy of using language, finite neo-logisms to represent and equate with an generalized non-concrete reality. It is axiomatic that all that exists today, behavior and thought patterns have always existed. Therefore, in short, creating new terms for universal phenomenon is counter productive (constant renaming and assignment of a static phenomenon).

    You, in effect are assigning new titles to books that have already been written, donned clothes to create a persona, which is superficial, since “clothes do not make the man”. The motivation to use these terms, which are artificial since they inadequately resemble not the range of human behavior in all aspects, but provide a veneer of discovery, frontier advancement, expansion of understanding; they do nothing of the sort. They create, usually an avoidance for the reader, who is unlikely to search in the modern lexicon for a specific meaning that has emerged among people who like to use jargon as a fetid substitute for the essence of a thing.

    Because I am perennially a curious and explorative of everything, I knew what Post Modernism was before I ever heard of the term and the other neologisms you have used. I studied – formally and singularly – and discovered these phenomenon in their nuances, variability and other manifestations.
    [For clarification and edification of PM, see the writings and lectures of Camille Paglia for a fleshed out, profound exposition and forensic analysis that is broader than that found anywhere else].

    You misuse of descriptive nouns emanated from the legal legacy of Roman law, the teleology of the Greeks, and the Enlightenment. The latter was mainly a method of systematically changing “the lens” with which to see and understand the Universe, focused on human existence, for our purpose here. All of latter day Western philosophy derives or is infused with these limitations and misdirection. Abstractions that are fuzzy and have a start to stop finite range, as if they really align with Reality which is far more complex. To make matters worse, especially in German philosophy, abstracts are piled on top of each other, as antecedents, influencers, causes, etc. This is pretentious, meaningless, futile, and designed to procure tenure and recognition from other pretenders and poseurs.

    The trouble with radical skepticism of any form, Postmodernism for example, was described IMHO best by Hume’s AD 1700s comment that (paraphrase) “Radical Skeptics, who say they believe in nothing, still use open doorways rather than walking through walls to enter and leave a room”. His point being that the Radical Skeptics do have revealed beliefs.

    This entire paragraph is a dismal failure, using free floating references in an attempt to impress who, a college professor, who has no experience outside of his sequestered high walled garden? “Radical Skeptics” mishmash is nothing more than Nihilism. Ipso facto, a priori. Fancy garments and vestments, same body and flesh.

    Two imperatives for you: read more broadly and do not limit yourself within culture, epoch, characters, and schools. Get out more, like Buddha, and see for yourself. Read toward a general understanding that stays close to the empirical, concrete, and actual. That means a longitudinal exploration of the body of work of Carl Gustav Jung and Eric Hoffer. You are lacking an inductive understanding of everything, relying on deductive, abstract contracts and hypothesis, while having no idea of their validity or accuracy due to lack of inductive instances and observations

  91. aandrews says:

    I guess one should consider this an example of Lind’s “radical cultural fusionism and mass genetic amalgamation.”

  92. Pastit says:
    @Richard B

    Nothing worse than an ignorant, Jew cock sucking neo liberal who believes in miscegenation. Fuck him.

  93. Mefobills says:
    @whew

    You are in denial, one of the stages finally leading to acceptance.

    The Poles were more than little bit unreasonable. See below link:

    https://www.unz.com/article/edwin-blacks-the-transfer-agreement/#comment-5908723

    • Replies: @whew
  94. Anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Richard B

    Richard B:

    Your post is a great exposition. In technical terms, you’re describing Postmodernism, a philosophical school of skeptical thought that rejects (as you say very well) all “Grand Narratives”, which you refer to in the much more easily understood phrase of “The Age of Explanatory Collapse”. Postmodernism is the foundation “political reality”, which is the belief system of all professional politicians. You might be interested in Stephen R. C. Hicks book, Explaining Postmodernism: Skepticism and Socialism from Rousseau to Foucault, Ockham’s Razor Publishing (also see: Amazon.com), 2011. Hicks gives some account of how Postmodernist idiocy (e.g. “our grand narrative is that there is no grand narrative!”) could be taken seriously.

    The trouble with radical skepticism of any form, Postmodernism for example, was described IMHO best by Hume’s AD 1700s comment that (paraphrase) “Radical Skeptics, who say they believe in nothing, still use open doorways rather than walking through walls to enter and leave a room”. His point being that the Radical Skeptics do have revealed beliefs.

    And the current Radical Skeptics believe in street fighters and lawfare and propaganda, an political reality manufactured through force and deception. Their problem, as you point it, is that an industrial society cannot be managed without a Grand Narrative. In fact, nothing can — Postmodernism propaganda is itself a “Grand Narrative”, and, as above, the self styled skeptics actions show a (very crude) understanding of a very simple fixed social reality (example: Whites are evil, Orange Man Bad).

    And, yes, the Target and Bud Light and the economic collapse of the Postmodernist urban areas and the end of the petrodollar (coupled with the creation of the petro-bitcoin, of all things) and the resistance to castrating children through the public schools shows that the US public has about reached its limit. Should the US lose the EU alliance to the Russian Federation (as seems likely), raw poverty will push the US public well beyond its limits.

  95. Lurker says:
    @Mefobills

    World War 2 began when the Churchill government and the French… declared war on Germany.……

    There wasn’t a Churchill government until May 1940, nine months after the declaration of war on Germany.

    Churchill wasn’t even a member of the government when war began, Chamberlain brought him into the Cabinet on 3 September.

    I don’t doubt he had a degree of influence but not formally.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  96. Mefobills says:
    @Lurker

    Do you disagree with Ron Unz on Churchill’s involvement in the war? See below quote:

    (The war actually started the day Hitler was elected in 1933, especially when the Zionists went after Germany’s ability to export goods. This was an attempt to starve out the Germans who were food dependent.)

    https://www.unz.com/runz/why-everything-you-know-about-world-war-ii-is-wrong/

    Excerpt from Ron Unz at link above:

    ____________________

    After Germany attacked Poland, Britain and France declared war. The Polish army was defeated in just a few weeks, and Hitler then offered to withdraw his forces from the Polish territories they had occupied and make peace, but the two Western powers vowed to continue the war until Germany was crushed. Little fighting occurred until spring of 1940 when the Germans finally attacked and defeated the huge French army, seizing Paris and knocking France out of the war.

    The British forces were evacuated at Dunkirk and there’s quite a lot of evidence that Hitler deliberately allowed them to escape as a face-saving gesture rather than ordering them captured. He followed his victory in France by offering extremely generous terms to the British government, making no demands against them and instead proposing a German alliance, including military support for protecting the security of their worldwide empire. Hitler naturally believed that they would accept such an attractive offer and end the war, which he assumed was essentially over.

    Several of the top British leaders seemed eager to make peace on Hitler’s generous terms, and according to the evidence found by renowned British historian David Irving, Prime Minister Winston Churchill himself seemed willing to do so before changing his mind and pulling back. Churchill had spent decades seeking to become Prime Minister, and Irving plausibly argues he realized that losing a disastrous war within weeks of finally achieving that position would have rendered him a laughingstock in the history books.

    But given Britain’s military defeat on the Continent and the very generous terms Hitler was offering, Churchill faced a huge problem in persuading his country to continue a war that was widely regarded as lost. Therefore, he began ordering a series of bombing raids against the German capital, an illegal war crime, hoping to provoke a German response. This led Hitler to repeatedly warn that if they continued bombing his cities, he would be forced to retaliate in kind, and he finally did so.

  97. whew says:
    @Mefobills

    if you’re going to debate, you should make an argument and not just link to an article. linking is ok, but point out the pertinent parts of said article, or you’ve said nothing.

    i’m well versed on this topic, maybe more than you since i’m able to discern propaganda from either side, but you’re welcome to have a conversation if you think you can enlighten me about something – just actually say something.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  98. Mefobills says:
    @whew

    if you’re going to debate, you should make an argument and not just link to an article. linking is ok, but point out the pertinent parts of said article, or you’ve said nothing.

    OK. What did I say in the link to MY comment, which you obviously did not read, and yet object to?

  99. loren says:
    @24th Alabama

    juneteenth..bwaaa kwan-zuh

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