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It’s not a shock that Postmodernism has taken hold of subjects such as Literature or Social Anthropology. The more subjective the subject is, the easier it is for ideology to infiltrate it. But surely quantitative science—like genetics and physics—will survive as a fortress of logic? Wrong. An article this week in The New York Times interviewed “woke” geneticists, whose findings manifestly show that race and psychological racial differences are biological, revealing them clutching at the most desperate reasons why their research doesn’t prove what it clearly does. [Why White Supremacists Are Chugging Milk (and Why Geneticists Are Alarmed), By Amy Harmon, The New York Times, October 17, 2018] Hard science has fallen to the latter-day Communists.

If someone excels in math, they excel in logical reasoning so, in general, you can expect them to possess an almost robotic ability to see through the emotion and dogma that props up Postmodernism. This may well be one of the reasons why SJWs had to make an example of CERN physicist Professor Alessandro Strumia earlier this month. [Cern physicist suspended over 'highly offensive' presentation on sexism in science, by Tom Embury-Dennis, Independent, October 2, 2018]

Strumia was sufficiently “Aspie”—the better at math you are, the more Autistic you tend to be [Superior math skills may accompany autism, study suggests, By Emily Anthes, Spectrum, October 3,2013]—to remark, completely accurately, that, “Physics [was] invented and built by men”, adding—by presenting a series of charts and statistics—that there is no discrimination against female physicists, indeed there is unwarranted positive discrimination in their favor.

Feminists responded by citing female physicists who nobody’s heard of, citing random anecdotes of sexism, and twisting his words—illogical arguments, in other words. [Science doesn’t belong to men. Here’s the proof, By Afua Hirsch, Guardian, October 2, 2018]. If Strumia was less good at math, and so less narrowly focused, he would have understood that academia has now returned to the Dark Ages and you can only reason until you reach the prison bars of the new Church of Equality’s dogmas.

It’s a pattern. American mathematician Ted Hill told the infidel world of his dealings with the Church the previous month in the online magazine Quillette. [Academic Activists Send a Published Paper Down the Memory Hole, By Theodore P. Hill, Quillette, September 7, 2018] Hill had submitted a paper applying mathematics to make sense of the “Genetic Male Variability Hypothesis” (“GMVH”)—that males tend to be over-represented at the extremes, both high and low, of IQ, hence more male Nobel laureates but also more male vagrants. [An Evolutionary Theory of the Variability Hypothesis, by Ted Hill, August 2017] The Mathematical Intelligencer accepted it after peer review and it was “pre-published” online. But a vigilante group called “Women In Mathematics” accused it of sexism, a co-author was subject to accusations of “scientific racism” in his own department, a math professor called Amie Wilkinson [Email her] complained to the journal about the paper—noting that her statistician father didn’t think it was very good—and the journal pulled the already-accepted article. Crowing about her victory on Facebook, Wilkinson stated that the journal’s editor, “ended up rescinding the paper (good, although why did she accept it in the first place)”.

However, an editor of the online New York Journal of Mathematics, having read the paper online and having heard about Hill’s shocking treatment, got in touch to say that he’d be interested in publishing it. It was sent out for peer review, received positive reports, and was published on November 6, 2017. But three days later the article simply vanished from the website—“down the memory hole”. Benson Farb [Email him] who was on the journal’s editorial board, had demanded that the journal’s editor-in-chief, Mark Steinberger, remove Hill’s paper at once. He also demanded that the sub-editor be fired.

It turned out that Farb’s wife was none other than…Amie Wilkinson. So this pioneering feminist mathematician not only went running to Daddy to stop the naughty boy’s heretical paper being published but to Hubby as well.

Hot-headed Farb—clearly shaken up criticism due to the Quillette article—put out a statement on September 11, 2018, publicly accusing the dying Steinberger, who passed away four days later, of being unethical for not including a retraction note when Hill’s paper was remove…despite the fact that it was Farb who pressured him to un-publish the paper in the first place [What really happened when two mathematicians tried to publish a paper on gender differences? The tale of the emails, by Ivan Oransky, RetractionWatch, September 17, 2018]

Clearly, the Church of Postmodernism has managed to evangelize far beyond the easy pickings of Humanities subjects, all the way to pure Mathematics itself. Its control of the universities is, therefore, pretty much complete. Mathematics must only deal with empirical questions that do not cast doubt on the Church’s dogmas. Like the Scholastic St Thomas Aquinas (1224-1274), it will have to examine the equivalent of such questions as “Can several angels be in the same place?” [Summa Theologica, Question 52:3] something which was later exaggerated, though not by much, to become, “How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?”

Like Galileo, when scientists discover the equivalent of the heliocentric universe, they will find that their publications are burnt (withdrawn from the journal) and they are ordered by their university not to teach anything about it. Or they will have to distance themselves from their own findings by asserting that though these are their findings, they are nevertheless confident in the Church’s dogmas.

This is happening especially in the field of human genetics. There, findings unequivocally show that there are genetic race differences, including in intelligence. As a result, the New York Times’s Amy Harmon [Tweet her] found geneticists whose findings manifestly show that race and psychological racial differences are biological—so that doctors must treat patients differently based on their “race”—virtue-signalling concern about the “Far Right” “misusing” their findings.

“Misusing” findings in this context seems to mean “reading them and understanding their implications.” These Politically Correct geneticists appeal to complexity—their results are “wrapped in numerous caveats”, racialist interpretations are “a very deep-rooted misunderstanding,” great care…should be taken in communicating results of these studies to general audiences”—or simply to dogma: “There is no genetic evidence to support any racist ideology”.

Harmon, who has naively admitted her purpose was “not to give credence to racist ideas,” conducted a lengthy interview with Italian anthropologist Davide Piffer, one of infidel academics who note that race differences in the frequency of gene forms associated with high IQ neatly explain race differences in IQ. Piffer refuted the criticisms of the PC geneticists. So Harmon didn’t use him in her article at all—something he’s drawn attention to on Twitter.

The Victorians had a solution to the problem of university being controlled by the Church—independent scholars: gentleman scientists such as Charles Darwin, researchers with patrons, like Karl Marx, enthusiastic amateurs like Scottish shoemaker and naturalist Thomas Edward.

Now, fortunately, we have the internet and crowd-funding. So it may be—for the time being—that serious, inquisitive scientific research will leave the universities and migrate to the modern equivalent of men like Darwin and Edward.

Because when even Mathematics departments are ideological, the Church of Equality is unquestionably running the university show.

Lance Welton [Email him] is the pen name of a freelance journalist living in New York.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

    I think Aquinas is too vested in Aristotelian causality and logic to be correct and convincing here. If you don’t believe in spiritual intellects – angels and demons – you foreclose on the question as being idiotic. Myself, I think the question is moot. Spiritual energies transcend space and time and hence “matter” (which is merely energy temporally and spatially manifested) in ways we cannot now understand.

    The answer is therefore “none” and “as many as want to” at once.

    Just as Aquinas went to far with his treatment of the Eucharist with his theory of “transubstantiation.” Aristotelian logic trivializes the mystery, makes it trite. In the liturgy, at the consecration, bread becomes flesh of the Incarnate God sacrificed upon Calvary. This, the “perpetual and universal sacrifice” ever transcending space and time, constantly offered and reserved upon altars throughout the world. There is absolutely no need to parse and do violence to this mystery with logic. It simply is, one we accept or refuse the grace by way of faith. St. Thomas and the scholastics went far too far, their explanations fail to explain, and make it easier to dismiss the power of the paradox.

    See William of Occam.

    The inexplicable riddle tantalizes, logical explanations amount to dismissals diminishing, even destroying the seduction of the sacred. “For we now but see through the glass darkly..”

    We have many stories of saints bi-locating. This, prior to their deaths. The angels and saints in the beatific vision intercede for each of us individually by the billions at once. We also have instances of demonic possession, where demonic infestation subsists with the victim soul. The Holy Spirit infuses the soul of every supplicant. The infinite and eternal thus meet and inhabits us now, in space and time in ways we cannot now in our weakness understand.

    Know this: the University is a Christian institution. Science is a philosophical method born of Christian thought. In the absence of faith both will fail. As they are failing now.

    You have to believe in truth, in objective reality, to be a scientist. This is an act of faith. A faithless age, a faithless people, cannot sustain a culture of inquiry, a culture of detachment and humility necessary for science.

    We are entering a new dark age today. Knowledge shorn of humility and love wielded in hatred and pride will us all to our doom.

    We have been prophetically warned.

    • Agree: TomSchmidt
  2. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

    If someone excels in math, they excel in logical reasoning so, in general, you can expect them to possess an almost robotic ability to see through the emotion and dogma that props up Postmodernism.

    Not at all. Excelling in math means having excellent intuition about how a formal system might work and apply that skill to concrete problems, or being able to pull together far-flung theorems and research directions into new powerful ideas and conjectures (and possibly formally prove them) because one is able to see patterns and correspondences in ways that elude others.

    It has scant to do with sceptisicsm about dished-out truths about a messy real world. It doesn’t even mean being aware that one is just downloading goodthinktoday.txt from the NYT or the Grauniad.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @Anon
  3. El Dato says:

    In addition to Benson Farb’s statement at

    https://www.math.uchicago.edu/~farb/statement

    Amie Wilkinson has a statement to make at:

    https://math.uchicago.edu/~wilkinso/Statement.html

    (why don’t they share a family name?)

    Statement addressing unfounded allegations.

    This statement addresses some unfounded allegations about my personal involvement with the publishing of Ted Hill’s preprint “An evolutionary theory for the variability hypothesis” (and the earlier version of this paper co-authored with Sergei Tabachnikov). As a number of erroneous statements have been made, I think it’s important to state formally what transpired and my beliefs overall about academic freedom and integrity.

    I first saw the publicly-available paper of Hill and Tabachnikov on 9/6/17, listed to appear in The Mathematical Intelligencer. While the original link has been taken down, the version of the paper that was publicly available on the arxiv at that time is here.

    I sent an email, on 9/7/17, to the Editor-in-Chief of The Mathematical Intelligencer, about the paper of Hill and Tabachnikov. In it, I criticized the scientific merits of the paper and the decision to accept it for publication, but I never made the suggestion that the decision to publish it be reversed. Instead, I suggested that the journal publish a response rebuttal article by experts in the field to accompany the article. One day later, on 9/8/17, the editor wrote to me that she had decided not to publish the paper.

    I had no involvement in any editorial decisions concerning Hill’s revised version of this paper in The New York Journal of Mathematics. Any indications or commentary otherwise are completely unfounded.

    I would like to make clear my own views on academic freedom and the integrity of the editorial process. I believe that discussion of scientific merits of research should never be stifled. This is consistent with my original suggestion to bring in outside experts to rebut the Hill-Tabachnikov paper. Invoking purely mathematical arguments to explain scientific phenomena without serious engagement with science and data is an offense against both mathematics and science.

    Amie Wilkinson
    Professor of Mathematics
    University of Chicago
    September 11, 2018

    Well, well, well….

    Invoking purely mathematical arguments to explain scientific phenomena without serious engagement with science and data is an offense against both mathematics and science.

    It’s not as if this is what statistics and causal reasoning has been about since at least Francis Galton (and high energy physics is completely walloing in this nowadays, in a most distasteful way). But suddenly we need extra Big Data because an obscure paper is about a triggering SJW issue. Make sense, I guess.

    Benson Farb who was on the journal’s editorial board, had demanded that the journal’s editor-in-chief, Mark Steinberger, remove Hill’s paper at once. He also demanded that the sub-editor be fired.

    I would say at first looks there is at least a seriously ethical problem when hubby intervenes in a most radical fashion regarding a paper that previously triggered the the wife.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    , @lavoisier
  4. El Dato says:

    Strumia may be a disgruntled individual pushing a shite presentation, but here is direct evidence for “belief trumps reality” in scientists.

    A fun one by Tommaso Dorigo, HEP stats wrestler at CERN:

    https://www.science20.com/tommaso_dorigo/alessandro_strumia_the_mansplainer-234498

    I will not comment further Strumia’s discussion, other than noting that he heavily relies for his “inference” on the IQ: starting from a debatable observation (different RMS of men and women on that quantity) he tries to show that there is no discrimination, as if IQ could be used as _the_ indicator to hire brilliant scientists. I bet Strumia has taken several IQ tests in his life, and is quite happy about his results. As Hawking used to say, people who brag about their IQ are losers; I would add that people who use IQ measures as indicators of anything but ability to solve IQ tests should be advised to not embark in quantitative research. Concocting new whatchamacallitinos is still okay, though.

    IQ is uncorrelated with anything! Except IQ tests!

    Okay.

    The writing is on the wall: during their education female students are as good as or better than males in STEM disciplines; however, society is geared up to convince them since their birth (and us with them) that they are less good than males, and that they should seek different paths in their careers. The outcome is in front of us all. I have a 15 year old daughter who excels both in humanity studies and in scientific disciplines, and I know she needs a strong will in order to not be driven away from what she truly would like to do after high school (no, it’s not Physics).

    Sorry Tommaso. Just wait till she’s a couple of years older, the problem will very likely solve itself.

    As with human-made global warming, woman discrimination in STEM is an established fact that will continue to have deniers: human beings will always have motives to deny evidence.

    Sadly someone pushing strong opinions about female discrimination in STEM as well as human-made global warming actually makes the human-made global warming story less believable. (And really I wouldn’t want this to happen, it’s a good story)

  5. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

    Afua Hirsch, Amy Harmon….

    Lots of A.H. moments.

  6. Rich says:

    This weird, hysterical attack by a handful of shrill women and their soy boys is really getting out of hand. They are shrieking everywhere. Crowdfunding is an excellent idea, but maybe there is an even better, older idea that has worked for centuries, Sharia. Like the old Turks, we can “convert” to this “minority” faith, change it a bit to get rid of circumcision and the alcohol prohibition maybe, then get these harridans back into the house. Otherwise, some other society, Russians, Koreans, Japanese, maybe even the Chinese, will leave us in the dust.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  7. Anon[448] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Fiffer seems to be a crank.

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Davide_Piffer

    He’s into ESP.

    • Replies: @dearieme
  8. Excellent article. Lance Welton has risen in no time at all to my top tier of Unz writers. The solution to this wretched state of affairs is more immigration, especially from countries and/or ethnicities which do not abide by political correctness. That is the only way to change the decaying Euro-American culture of effeminate egalitarianism.

  9. Rosie says:

    How did I know? Another article about how women are to blame for everything, with commenters predictably demanding a draconian backlash against all of womankind based on the objectionable conduct of a few.

    Of course, we now know that if you want to keep women out of science, the best way to do that is to allow them the freedom to choose, but of course, nobody really cares about results. Ironically, this whole website is just a place for “men” to complain about how ineffectual and self-absorbed women are.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/02/the-more-gender-equality-the-fewer-women-in-stem/553592/

    BTW, if a radical feminist accuses men of discrimination without evidence, and there is no hostile media to amplify her message, does it make a sound?

    • Replies: @MarkU
    , @Tom Welsh
    , @HallParvey
  10. @El Dato

    “why don’t they share a family name?”

    Because she wasn’t going to give in to the Patriarchy by taking a man’s name? So instead she kept her own name, which was the name of a man she respects more, her father. Her husband, Dr. Farb, can be her errand boy all he wants, but she will not respect him more than her own father.

    It’s touching to have such a loyal daughter.

    Alternately, maybe she had already published under her “maiden” name, and did not want to complicate matters. In which case, her career dictated her priorities. That’s understandable. Tenured at a university, she’s much less likely to divorce that job than that husband.

  11. @Brás Cubas

    That’s probably the best logic behind mass immigration. Watching virtue signalers have to signal new virtues would be fun. The CogDis would be extreme,

  12. Wilson says:

    Rosie, isn’t that study just more proof that women will never be happy? If women get “more equality” then the nagging about underrepresentation and a “wage gap” will only get worse.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  13. @Anonymous

    My experiences in one “top ten” and two “top twenty” math departments has led me to the conclusion that, outside their particular fields of expertise, mathematicians are usually even more illogical, less fact bound, and more susceptible to irrational prejudices than an average American, perhaps even an average American academic. The susceptibility of mathematicians to apparently rigorous systems of analysis in non-mathematical and non-scientific fields, e.g., Marxism and Nazism, makes them particularly susceptible to extreme left-wing and extreme right-wing enthusiasms.

    The great mathematician, Oswald Teichmuller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Teichmuller was a fervent Nazi and worked hard to purge Jews from the mathematics departments of German universities, just as leftist and prog mathematicians in today’s American universities seek to maintain the ideological purity of their domains by whatecver means necessary.

  14. Rosie says:
    @Wilson

    Rosie, isn’t that study just more proof that women will never be happy? If women get “more equality” then the nagging about underrepresentation and a “wage gap” will only get worse.

    No. It’s proof that the vast majority of us aren’t interested in your snoozer tech jobs. We prefer the helping professions.

    And I find your logic very telling. If women have a grievance, in your view, the point is not to treat us fairly but to stop the “nagging.” This is ridiculous. I suppose you’re correct that no matter what concessions the women’s movement gains, there will always be a certain percentage that will insist that “much remains to be done” and make further demands. That doesn’t mean they will or should get their way, nor does it mean that previous concessions to reasonable and more modest demands were futile or misguided.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Anon
    , @Anonymous
    , @annamaria
  15. Rosie says:
    @Brás Cubas

    Excellent article. Lance Welton has risen in no time at all to my top tier of Unz writers. The solution to this wretched state of affairs is more immigration, especially from countries and/or ethnicities which do not abide by political correctness. That is the only way to change the decaying Euro-American culture of effeminate egalitarianism.

    What say you, Black Pigeon? Is it really women who “destroy civilizations”?

  16. Rosie says:
    @Rosie

    BTW Wilson, would your same reasoning not apply to the “men’s movement”? Get rid of affirmative action, and they’ll demand that women be excluded from the workplace altogether! Indeed, you can find this very demand right here on this thread. Does that make men’s objections to affirmative action any less valid?

    No, certainly not to any fair-minded person, and it would be silly to assume that any who make such ridiculous demands prove that men in general bear any ill will towards women.

  17. @Jus' Sayin'...

    Exactly. Einstein wrote in favor of socialism and co founded the Emergency Committee of Atomic Scientists with Szilard. Lots of physicists took part in similar peacenik efforts and to this day still promote the nuclear winter nonsense of Carl Sagan and Stephen Jay Gould. All on the behest of the Soviet Union.
    The idea that physicists and mathematicians are some sort of sacred priesthood above the political nonsense that periodically infects intellectuals is ridiculous.

  18. GMVH stands for Greater Male Variability Hypothesis rather than (as stated in the blog) Genetic Male Variability Hypothesis.

  19. professor called Amie Wilkinson [Email her] complained to the journal about the paper—noting that her statistician father didn’t think it was very good—and the journal pulled the already-accepted article


    The Coddling of the American Mind
    – especially what the father part in the above-mentioned quote s concerned… – – – see: Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt’s book.

    (A tad more correct even might have been the title The Coddling of the Western Mind – but – – – – (never mind…everything is always perfectly clear anyhow….).

  20. AaronB says:

    I find it amusing that anyone thinks ‘decadence’ can be prevented, or should.

    If we only did this or that science would be good again. But decadence is a perfectly natural part of the cycle and has literally followed every single period of growth and expansion. Its lunacy to think we can somehow reverse this.

    Its like sleep. You can’t have a day of activity without sleep. Let’s hear proposals for reversing the need for sleep now lol.

    We are of course entering a new Middle Ages, and it will have all positive aspects and drawbacks of such an age. There won’t be much science or progress, but there will be a more satisfying and human way of living, more beauty and nature, more revelry and fun, less hard work, more eccentricity and unusual living situations, less regimentation and less of a purpose driven life.

    It will be a welcome break from the past 500 years, which were very strenuous, and didn’t really get us anywhere – although no doubt some people found them fun, so they were worthwhile.

    The rot in science goes far deeper than attempts to suppress things or draw bad conclusions. Science itself has calcified into a very narrow set of assumption that produce an increasingly simplified and distorted view of the world.

    Suppressing genetic findings is bad, but the research itself proceeds along illogical assumptions that few in the field wish to question or perhaps can even fathom. So it’s just rot in a very fundamental sense, not just in social reactions to scientific findings.

    And that’s normal and good. We need a break, and everything calcifies and hardens into rigid death sooner or later.

  21. El Dato says:
    @SIMPLEPseudonymicHandle

    > nuclear winter nonsense of Carl Sagan and Stephen Jay Gould

    What’s the point of this interjection? I find it eminently likely and don’t want to find out

    Hey, wait a minute, one should be able to do nice simulations nowadays, right? we have big-ass computers and stuff.

    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2006JD008235

    The response to the 150 Tg scenario can still be characterized as “nuclear winter,” but both produce global catastrophic consequences. The changes are more long‐lasting than previously thought, however, because the new model, National Aeronautics and Space Administration Goddard Institute for Space Studies ModelE, is able to represent the atmosphere up to 80 km, and simulates plume rise to the middle and upper stratosphere, producing a long aerosol lifetime. The indirect effects of nuclear weapons would have devastating consequences for the planet, and continued nuclear arsenal reductions will be needed before the threat of nuclear winter is removed from the Earth.

    Yeah.

    In any case, burning down cities will do wonders to your food chain toxin load, so maybe nuclear winter won’t be the biggest worry in any case. That and dying from fallout.

  22. dearieme says:
    @Anon

    For Christ’s sake Isaac Newton was a crank. That’s not the point.

    • Replies: @Patricus
  23. Anon[385] • Disclaimer says:

    For envy to be erased, humankind too should be..

    This said, who wants envy erased? You, Langdon?

  24. Feminism has progressed from something vaguely positive and generally harmless to something twisted, evil, and literally a threat to the survival of civilization.

    • Replies: @Epigon
    , @Jake
  25. Gracebear says:
    @AaronB

    I would love to hear more.

  26. This Lance Welton fellow is without doubt one of the biggest douchebags to ever appear on this site, either in the columns or in the comments (which is really saying a lot). His grasp of science is so poor that it basically equates to a cargo cult level of misunderstanding. He even repeats the tired old line about Galileo, which has been refuted any number of times in these very pages. He is an idiot of the first order and completely unworthy of anyone’s attention.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  27. Apparently,

    you are unfamiliar with how many mathematicians and an asundry of scientists — those level headed objective realists support climate change despite its numerous contradictory models. There is a study about methane gas and its impact — that man has had by introducing methane on the planet — excuse my objectivity here, but it is my understanding that millions of metric tons of methane are poured in the atmosphere every year by the earth’s natural processes , since the earth was formed.

    You’ll have to do better than that to make your point that mathematicians are objective.

    Mathematicians obey the rules of math. That’s it. Their objectivity is confined to the rules of numerical/dynamic relationships. Beyond that they get married, lose their tempers, get divorced, vote for democrats, support feminists agendas like anyone else. Being a mathematician does make one objective or even aware of the rules concerning other human made or natural processes. Some mathematicians are democrats and liberal.

    http://liberationmath.org/

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-mathematicians-who-want-to-save-democracy/

    It’s been official for a long long time.

    I here tell that many even believe in God, despite their admission that they cannot mathematically prove said God exists.

  28. MarkU says:
    @Rosie

    I presume that what you are saying is that you are opposed to prejudice, in which case I agree entirely. To my mind it is totally and self evidently wrong to pre-judge an individual on the basis of race, class or gender (even if race, class or gender inequalities were shown to exist). Prejudice has no legitimate place in the world generally and in science in particular, science is about testing ideas and that cannot be done effectively if results have to conform to some preordained conclusions.

    Some people fail to grasp that the assumption that all races, classes and genders must have identical potential across the board, is also prejudice.

  29. If someone excels in math, they excel in logical reasoning so, in general, you can expect them to possess an almost robotic ability to see through the emotion and dogma that props up Postmodernism.

    But you can’t expect any man to be indifferent to threats to his career, so mathematicians–just like scientists and all the rest–will learn to toe the line in order to keep the grant money, etc., coming. Sadly, scientists are susceptible to the exact same pressures as the rest of us. You all remember what happened to our very own Razib Khan, don’t you?

  30. phil says:

    Since when is rationalwiki a reliable source of information about anything?

  31. @Intelligent Dasein

    Hyperbole like yours is never warranted. Even if I agreed with you about Welton, the mere abundance of scientific citations in his articles would make them worth reading for me. But, most of all, I am of a liberal nature: if you do not like the guy, just do not comment. Instead, not only you read ALL his articles but you make it a point to let everyone know you did not like them. If you must leave a comment, make it a point by point refutation with as many references as the original, instead of your stinking hyperblows.

  32. @AaronB

    Of course decadence may be prevented, and should. We are not talking about physical phenomena here. History is made by men. It is an ongoing process. Comments like yours are shaping history, just like mine is. If everyone thinks and acts like you, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  33. AaronB says:
    @Brás Cubas

    Lots of assumptions there.

    How do you know decadence isn’t a physical process.

    How do you know psychic processes aren’t responsible.

    But more than that, rest after exertion seems natural – you can’t have a day of activity without sleep. Decadence is natural, like sleep, like death. Every positive has a negative it could not exist without. If there was no decadence, we wouldn’t even know it when we were in a period of expansion.

    Its the unwillingness to accept the so called negative side of life that has driven the West insane.

    Secondly, I am pointing out a simple historical fact – decadence has always without exception followed a period of expansion.

    Decadence is a judgemental word, anyways. It’s simply rest.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  34. MBlanc46 says:
    @AaronB

    More beauty and fun in the offing, eh?I hope you’re right, but I’d bet at least a couple of mortgage payments that you’re wrong.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  35. Patricus says:
    @dearieme

    Newton did great work but was also an astrologer and alchemist. Einstein’s theories were amazing but then he dismissed quantum mechanics which has proven itself a very useful theory. He was a proponent of socialism. Linus Pauling made great discoveries but then veered off the tracks with his obsession with Vitanin C. The power of science is that theories are subject to debunking, no matter the prestige of the originator.

  36. AaronB says:
    @MBlanc46

    We’ll all have to accepts much lower standard of living for sure – smaller and less of everything, but well still have a lot more fun and more than enough of the good stuff.

    We’ve been sold a lie – that we need huge houses multiple cars and all the rest and have to work like crazy to get it.

    That whole way of life is winding down.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  37. @AaronB

    Historical facts are not final, because history is not over. Your comparison with sleep is problematic. Civilizations do not sleep. They simply die, and then never rise again. The Greeks never rose again. The Romans never rose again. Western Civilization will not rise again, so I think they’d better fight their demise to the last of their energy.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Colin Wright
  38. AaronB says:
    @Brás Cubas

    Correct, the world may be said to sleep as it goes through cycles of expansion and contraction, but when a culture dies it is gone. But that is natural and cannot be avoided. Our refusal to accept death is at the heart of the sickness of our culture.

    Historical facts are not final, but it is striking that every culture that dedicated itself to expansion ends up dying. It is almost like past a certain point, it wants to die. Expansion does not seem infinitely attractive.

    One can learn from this, or seek infinite expansion – but that way lies insanity, and merely guarantees a quicker death, and is itself one of the stages of decadence.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  39. Anonymous[737] • Disclaimer says:

    “The lesson here, as always: Women ruin everything.” -ESPN

  40. Anonymous[231] • Disclaimer says:
    @fitzhamilton

    A prophecy crank who believes in “demonic infestation” purports that science works only within the framework his demon haunted world. Too funny! Question: if science is a “born of Christian thought,” why was science active hundreds of years before Jewish storytellers concocted the tale of the magical Jewsus you worship?

    The pre-Socratic philosopher Thales (640–546 BC), dubbed the “father of science”, was the first to postulate non-supernatural explanations for natural phenomena…

    History of Science
    wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science#Greco-Roman_world

  41. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I know 3 excellent mathematicians, one nominated for the Nobel Prize who’s known for discovering a new number who are full of every type of Marxist liberal modernist pro black drivel.

    What happened? They all went to university and they read the Guardian Other than the math part, their brains are just empty sinks full of liberal propaganda.

    Every generation gets worse. The grandfather is just a Marxist. Granddaughter is not just a Marxist but belongs to BLM and went to Washington for some BLM march.

  42. Epigon says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    Feminism has progressed from something vaguely positive and generally harmless

    Wait, what? Feminism has been from the very outset a subversive, destructive movement funded by usual suspects and spearheaded by mostly childless, unmarried harrigans, Jewish to a ridiculous proportion.

    Even the so-called first-wave feminism was entirely negative and detrimental, not to mention second and third waves.

    something twisted, evil, and literally a threat to the survival of civilization.

    Feminism has been a threat from the beginning. You’ve been conditioned to not recognise the fact until it’s too late; i.e. third wave, postmodern version of feminism.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  43. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @SIMPLEPseudonymicHandle

    I agree. Way way back in the early 1930s the Soviet’s founded and funded numerous international scientists associations. The theme was science research and knowledge must be free. Some were lobbying for less security and patents so the soviets could steal research. Others were similar to Soviet sponsorship of labor unions teacher associations feminist black and other groups.

    Those Drs to end nuclear testing groups were another soviet front group

  44. For real science, physics, chemistry, biology,there remains hope.
    Even in the USSR, where science was politicised, after some time, many years, it was inevitable to see that communist biology ideas did not bring the greater harvests the theory had prophesied.
    Alas, with more and more fake sciences, such as gender and migration studies, and diversity, indeed a dark age may be underway for science.

    War cries as ‘stop white supremacy’ do have effect, while in science and technology resulting from white scientists this supremacy cannot be denied.
    If anyone noticed I do not know, but the first S African bank is chapter eleven.

    Do not know if I wrote this before, but in order to help the third world maybe reïntroduction of old fashioned colonialism seems a solution.
    Around 1918 the word Mandate was introduced by the then United Nations, Mandate in theory was temporal rule by a European country until the country or region could rule itself.

    At the end of the thirties old fashioned Dutch colonialists in what now is Indonesia were of the opinion that not in a hundred years could the Indonesians rule themselves.
    What if in history is speculation, but a fact is that national income per head in the Dutch colony in 1940 just was reached again in the seventies.

    I’m quite sure that, had we Dutch continued to rule Indonesia, there would not have been a Timor war, and GM would not have wasted $ 100 million in building a car plant never to be used.

  45. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    ” No. It’s proof that the vast majority of us aren’t interested in your snoozer tech jobs. We prefer the helping professions.”

    The ” helping professions ” ( self serving professions you mean ? ) are feminized , they are occupyied by women .

    Medicine and teaching have become nightmares for society . Medicine is too expensive ( 20% of the US GDP ) , too yatrogenic . Education is producing functional illiterates and it is too expensive ( 10% of the US GDP ) .

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @annamaria
  46. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    Some claim How Many Angels Can Dance On The Head of a Pin was the beginning of physics. Can 2 things occupy the same space? How small can something get.? Discover one tiny thing like a molecule then atoms protons neutrons electrons

    I wish there were more histories of science technology machinery farming construction and ship building bridges engineering.

    Although if the current intellectual idiots write then they’d probably claim black Africans invented longitude and latitude and sailed around the world in 5,000 BC

  47. Miggle says:

    Both the article and the preceding comments are too sophisticated and arcane for me to get my small brain around. I stumbled over

    Feminists responded by citing female physicists who nobody’s heard of

    suggesting that nobody’s heard of female physicists. When I got up I found that the name Mme. Marie Skƚodowska Curie had filled the said tiny brain.

    I can’t think of anything else to say.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  48. Fred Knee says:

    It is past time for men on the right to stop monitoring or applying intellectual analysis to what women say or do. Never be alone with a woman who is not your wife. Do not read what they write, do not engage or argue with them. Never give direct or indirect economic support to anything a woman does. If you love women, children, and wish for life on earth to continue: that is the course of action you must pursue. Fake it ‘til you make it. Act as if women have already returned to their rightful place at the centre of hearth and home.

    • Replies: @Anon
  49. Almost two years ago, I lodged an official complaint with Leiden University, which by the way prides itself to be the oldest university in the Netherlands and hence, the most prestigious and “best” (a fine logical fallacy to begin with!).

    The complaint was directed at a PhD dissertation on “conspiracy theories” circulating on the web, accepted at the “Institute of Security and Global Affairs.” The dissertation quotes extensively from web sites, and provides hyperlinks, many of which turn out to be “dead links.” In other words, many references (at least 30% of them) can no longer be checked, since the dissertation did not provide an appendix with screenshots of the quoted sites.

    The PhD candidate also failed to mention any literature at variance with his own opinion, which according to the code of “academic integrity” issued by the Dutch Academy of Sciences, is tantamount to plagiarism.

    The complaint against these two gross violations of the academic code, namely the failure to provide evidence and not discussing contrary opinions, was rejected. First by Leiden University’s own board of academic integrity, then also by the board of the Dutch Academy of Sciences (LOWI), the highest academic authority in the land.

    In their verdict, which can be consulted in an anonymized version online, the Academy of Sciences states explicitly that given the nature of the internet, web sites may disapppear and that it is simply unfortunate when references turn out to be references to non-existent sites. In effect, the Academy of Sciences states that one can say anything at all without supporting evidence! As for the failure to quote contrary opinions, the Academy of Sciences suggested that if I disagreed with an academic publication, I should write an article in a newspaper or scholarly journal.

    In effect, with its verdict, the Dutch Academy of Sciences has declared serious research to be dead. One can write anything at all and get away with it. As long the “Academic Church” likes it, it’s ok.

    Since the Netherlands is just a pathetic little vassal state, taking its cue from what happens in the core of the empire, the situation there must be a lot worse.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Them Guys
  50. map says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    A “mathematician” or “physicist” is simply a “subject matter expert.”

    Like a blacksmith.

    Treating them as anything more than experts in their narrow fields is a huge mistake.

    No monarch ever asked a blacksmith about foreign policy or military strategy…even though a blacksmith was necessary to keep his cavalry going. Likewise, no priest ever consulted a blacksmith on matters of theology.

    Yet, we think Einstein is an expert on politics.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon
  51. Gunnar says:

    Dear author, it wasn’t Galileo, who discovered “the heliocentric universe”, it was Johannes Kepler (not even Copernikus) who showed how the planets move around the sun.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Jake
    , @Miggle
  52. If someone excels in math, they excel in logical reasoning so, in general, you can expect them to possess an almost robotic ability to see through the emotion and dogma that props up Postmodernism.

    Sorry, but this is wrong. Mathematical ability has nothing to do with critical thinking. I’ve known many mathematicians who are clueless about life & completely irrational when it comes to most controversial (or potentially controversial) topics.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @gepay
  53. “the better at math you are, the more Autistic you tend to be ”

    Or perhaps the definition of what is to be considered autism has been expanded so recklessly (cha-ching) that its right edge now bumps into the left edge of the psychopathic spectrum, leaving room for nothing in between except your next visit to the head shrink,

    • Replies: @Anon
  54. There will be a point, not long in the future when a degree from an American university (and probably the rest of the English speaking world) will be treated as some sort of joke. As the US world of academe sinks more and more into the land of political correctness and the land of make-believe the rest of the world which doesn’t accept this nonsense will forge ahead and leave America in the dust. Russia and China will lead the world and the smarter nations in Europe will hitch their horses to the “evil” empire of Russia and away from the lost UK and USA.

  55. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rich

    some other society, Russians, Koreans, Japanese, maybe even the Chinese, will leave us in the dust.

    Absolutely. The West is getting sabotaged from within. This is a self-defeating behaviour, if I ever saw one.

  56. Anonymous[851] • Disclaimer says:
    @SIMPLEPseudonymicHandle

    What makes the nuclear winter hypothesis nonsense? Do nuclear bombs not cause citywide fires? Do those fires not inject soot into the stratosphere? Does soot not block some direct sunlight from reaching the surface of the Earth? Does less sunshine not cause cooling? Does cooler weather not lead to widespread crop failure and famine? What experimental tests and modeling have you done? Do you consider all untested hypotheses nonsense?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Colin Wright
    , @Anon
  57. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The same people who were promoting Nuclear Winter in the late 1970s suddenly claimed global warming a few years later. I distinctly remember a Time magazine cover about Nucklear Winter in 1978 or 79.

    By 1988 global warming was in every publication All the thubgs you cite about nuclear winter are now claimed about global warming. There will be famine due to drought and rising temperatures crops will wither away

    There was a global cooling little ice age from 1550 to 1850 no nuclear bombs no auto emissions electricity plants oil drilling although the air was dirtier from wood and coal fires for heat and industrial processes.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Anonymous
  58. @Anonymous

    ‘What makes the nuclear winter hypothesis nonsense?’

    It’s nonsense because it turned out the theory failed to allow for the fact that rain would wash the dust out of the air.

    Really.

  59. Tom Welsh says:
    @Rosie

    @Rosie:

    “BTW, if a radical feminist accuses men of discrimination without evidence, and there is no hostile media to amplify her message, does it make a sound?”

    But Rosie, the article explains how a professor was suspended and a mathematician’s paper was twice “disappeared” after having been accepted for publication.

    If it were merely a question of accusations, we could perhaps overlook any unfairness. But when the processes of academia and academic publishing are so thoroughly subverted, it DOES “make a sound”.

  60. Che Guava says:
    @SIMPLEPseudonymicHandle

    Aside from having been a plagiarist (on both special and general relativity), and reputedly dirty and smelly, Einstein was a fanatical Zionist.

    On his famous world tour in the 1920′s, he was effectively present only as Herzl’s show pony.

    • Replies: @Josecanuc
  61. @Brás Cubas

    ‘…The solution to this wretched state of affairs is more immigration, especially from countries and/or ethnicities which do not abide by political correctness. That is the only way to change the decaying Euro-American culture of effeminate egalitarianism.’

    The problem here is that for all the professions of ethnic solidarity, etc, in practice the desire is to ape whitey. That means the second generation adopts all the politically correct clap-trap — uncritically and often with a vengeance.

    My wife’s rather large family are fairly typical immigrants from El Salvador. Granny was decidedly old school, and most of her daughters were determinedly respectable matrons. However, among my wife’s cousins we have a lesbian marriage in one case and a pregnancy by artificial insemination to avoid men in another. Then there’s the half-sister who rejected everybody and ran off to become an affirmative action cadet in the Obama administration or something.

    These people aren’t going to save you. They just join the winning team.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  62. It’s all about the money, and the so-called “scientists” are terrified of the loss of “grants”, they are worried sleepless that the already milked dry tax-slaves are becoming less and less willing to finance their useless futile hobbies such as “astronomy” or “gender studies” or “space exploration”.
    I have long wondered why these parasitic MFs demand that the guys who get up at five in the morning and go faithfully to their places of work, why theser guys are supposed to put up the monies for the fucking telescopes used by these assholes to follow their “passions”, and there are myriads of other examples of billions wasted on silly-ass “scientific” projects, which bring no rewards to society, and only serve to allow the “scientists” to live a life of carefree luxury on the back of the hapless working stiff.
    It affords absolutely nothing positve for society to be wasting billions upon billions of Dollars observing occurances trillions of miles away, and which are forever impossible to physically explore.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artist.

  63. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    I agree. And what exactly is meant by mathematician? The Nobel prize nominee who discovered a new number and the high school math teacher and accountant are all mathematicians.

    Autism is a fad and a fraud invented by wealthy Whites who know their White kids won’t get into college unless they claim some exotic disabilities. FYI, LGBTU and gender fluidity are the new autism for college applications.

    60 years ago wealthy liberals were taking their kids to child psychiatrist appointments every week to social climb virtue signal.

    80 years ago wealthy liberals believed Dr Sigmund Fraud’s theory about toddler’s castration complex and penis envy

  64. @Gunnar

    Galileo got hold of a made in Holland telescope, and saw the moons of Jupiter, and how they moved.
    He then understood that the earth was not the centre of the universe, with stars fixed to, and planets, moving on, some dome.
    Kepler formulated the laws that describe how the planets move.
    What exactly Copernicus said or did, do not know exactly.

    • Replies: @Gunnar
  65. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You’re right. Math is much more simple than real life. Math is either right or wrong

  66. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    The great mathematician, Oswald Teichmuller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Teichmuller was a fervent Nazi and worked hard to purge Jews from the mathematics departments of German universities…

    sounds like a good man

  67. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @map

    Yet, we think Einstein is an expert on politics.

    i don’t

    matter of fact i hear he may have been a fraud, pumped up by those who conveniently controlled much of the media even back then

  68. Jake says:

    Nothing new in this, as the Alan Sokol Affair of the 1990s showed. It has worsened by broadening with its main adherents more vicious.

  69. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @map

    The opinions of Einstein and other scientists were solicited for the same reason the opinions of actors and TV comedians are solicited. They are famous and people will listen to them.

    Pasteur concentrated on convincing the public germs existed, sanitation controlled disease and milk should be pasteurized to prevent the spread of TB from cows to humans.

    He didn’t speak out about politics. He stuck to his area of expertise.

  70. Jake says:
    @Gunnar

    He is reasoning from the starting point of Modern WASP culture, which assumes that WASP culture is the ideal replacement for old Christendom. And that means certain facts just do not matter.

    • Replies: @Gunnar
    , @Miggle
  71. @Hans Vogel

    Not a compliment for my country.
    But it does not surprise me, we have ‘sciences’ as ‘terrorism’, ‘European studies’, ‘transition to sustainable’, ‘gender’, ‘personal financial planning’, ‘migration studies’.
    Objectivity hardly seems to exist any more.
    Leiden is the oldest university, but I do not hold it in high esteem.
    Lecturers as Cliteur, Kinneging and Ellian seem unable to have an objective view on Islam.
    But in general, Dutch education deteriorated since 1960, as anywhere in the west, it seems.
    Christopher Lasch, ‘The Culture of Narcissism, American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations’, 1979, 1980, London
    The problem, as Sarrazin already wrote, is that good education increases social differences.
    Thilo Sarrazin, ‘Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen’, München 2010
    One of the prices to pay is very mediocre politicians.
    ‘Bad money drives out good money’.
    Another price may be, of course not sure, is that Russian and Chinese military technology is far superior to USA technology.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon
    , @Hans Vogel
    , @Them Guys
  72. Jake says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    The first feminist conference in the US, which was attended only by pure WASPs – not a Jew, much less an Irish or Polish or Italian Catholic, among the harridans – proves, I think, that the twisted, evil part of feminism was always present.

    • Replies: @Anon
  73. @Authenticjazzman

    ” silly-ass “scientific” projects, which bring no rewards to society ”
    Fundamental scientific research never had any direct reward to society.
    Yet, in many cases, these rewards came.
    Around 1936 three German scientists dicovered that atoms could be split.
    Did they at the time foresee any rewards, do not think so.

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  74. The more of this pomo idpol crap I read (and I avoid it 96.5% of the time) the more I am convinced its primary purpose is to anger/soothe pearl clutching grievance junkies, virtue signalers and “traditionally marginalized groups”…and to get a rise out of critics on the right and in the natural sciences. I bet a substantial number of clicks come from readers who disagree with the “arguments” these pieces put forward.

    The liberal media churns this chum out at a steady clip and it often gets publicized quite heavily. I am beginning to think idpol churnalism and its rw/rational equivalent in Breitbart, Quillet etc.is part of the establishment’s divide and rule (or divide and dumb down) strategy. Why? Because these articles are extremely popular with supporters and detractors alike and reading them, and baying in outrage afterwards, serves absolutely no useful or productive purpose and, unless you’re a masochist, there’s no real fun in it either. It is empty calorie reading that confirms the audiences biases and keeps the various factions in a highly emotional state.

    Perfect, in other words, for an authoritarian state/corporate apparatus that is terrified of the masses realizing they are being barrel raped and deciding do something about it.

  75. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Dresden Hamburg Düsseldorf Berlin and other bombed cities in WW2 didn’t cause global warming although the fires and soot were horrendous. From camping and fireplaces I’ve noticed soot falls right back down.

    Due to industrial pollution in China the sky and sun are often obscured. It’s a huge country yet it hasn’t caused a nuclear winter. In fact all the scientists still claim global warming

    I thought nuclear winter was out of style replaced by global warming. Global warming’s had a long run, almost 40 years. Time for chicken little to come up with a new disaster that never arrives.

    • Replies: @anon
  76. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    And I find your logic very telling. If women have a grievance, in your view, the point is not to treat us fairly but to stop the “nagging.”

    No, the point is to treat you fairly. The women in the West are already enjoying so many un-fair advantages that it’s not even funny. It’s actually detrimental to our societies.

    So yes – if you still have grievances – you’re nagging.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  77. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Another price may be, of course not sure, is that Russian and Chinese military technology is far superior to USA technology.

    i hear this again and again re Russia anyway, but i doubt its happened yet since the U.S. still spends what, 5-10x what the Russians and Chinese do?

    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  78. Gunnar says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Galileos telescope is not the Point. You can’t derive logically that the earth isn’t the Center of the universe from the fact, that Jupiter has moons. What he understood was that Aristotle was wrong with his idea of spheres on which the planets are fixed – THAT was impossible if moons move around Jupiter, what he in fact saw. But that is perfectly ok with “Jupiter is moving around earth”. Galileo didn’t know much about Copernicus whom he believed, but not Kepler…..Take a sheet of paper, try it for yourself……moons can move around Jupiter and the earth around the sun, THAT is not the problem. The historical and scientifical facts around this topic are a complex matter – I don’t know whether a copy of Keplers “Astronomia nova” is available in English, but you should inform yourself about it. I don’t say, Galileo wasn’t a great scientist, but it was Kepler who proved, that the only way the data they had could be interpreted, was with help of his laws. He not only proved, that the earth is moving around the sun but that the planets go in ellipses, what Galileo NEVER believed. Nobody else has done so much for Astronomy in his time like Kepler, he was the true revulutionary. (Please forgive me my terrible English, I’m German and not used to write in that language)

    • Replies: @Anon
  79. Gunnar says:
    @Jake

    I understand that part. And still – he is right about anything else, but not Galileo :P

  80. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fred Knee

    LOL what about taxes you pay for schools , teachers and the women administrators?

    What about the health insurance you pay for treatment by women Drs and nurses.? What about women Drs and nurses when you need them?

    What about the money you spend that pays the salaries of women employees at the stores where you shop and the women who work in the factories packing plants and farms where what you buy is produced?

    What about the numerous women who work at the bank where you got your mortgage car loans and keep your money?

    If you ever apply to rent an apartment in my building be sure to let me know who you are so I can reject you because you’re a man.

  81. anarchyst says:
    @Anon

    There are two recently-discovered long-term solar cycles…
    It turns out that the solar system is in a cooling cycle due to decreased solar activity. These two long-term solar cycles reinforce themselves when in phase and cancel themselves out when out-of-phase. Also, look up the Maunder minimum. There are no SUVs on Mars or other planets, yet they are also experiencing the same solar variability.
    Environmental science is among the most dishonest of the scientific disciplines.
    If environmentalism restricted itself to truly caring for our natural resources, I would have no problem with it. However, with the secret science and questionable funding that these environmental groups taints the whole barrel. It turns out that many claims that environmentalists make have no basis in fact and are not based on good, honest, scientific investigation. This is why environmental scientists have to hide their data, as it does not fit their agenda. A good example of this is the so-called global warming crap, now renamed climate change. For one, the climate is always changing. The East Anglia University emails in which data was purposely falsified by climate scientists comes to mind. Not only that, the climate scientists purposely installed temperature monitoring sensors in cities, contrary to manufacturers recommendations and good scientific practices, in asphalt-covered parking lots, and other heat sink areas in order to prove their (faulty) hypothesis. This is scientific dishonesty at its worst.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @james charles
  82. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The cost of medicine has nothing to do with women working in medicine. It has to do with the fact that we are the free health clinic for the entire non White world which includes the Chinese and Indians who fly here a week before their 65 birthday to get all the free Medicare and Medicaid they never paid for.

    Nothing to do with women but everything to do with the men who opened America to unlimited immigration in 1965 and the men who hire the illegal Hispanics and their anchor babies to overwhelm our health system

    • Replies: @Rosie
  83. Anonymous[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    You’re confusing nuclear winter hypothesis with the hypothesis that yet another Pleistocene cyclic ice age is overdue. You should go back to playing with your dolls instead of making a fool of yourself.

    • Replies: @Anon
  84. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    I doubt the USA is behind Russia and China in military tech. The business of America is war. It’s our major industry other than food production. It’s the one thing we do well. Winning wars not so much but the technology is superb

    Russia’s notoriously corrupt. Who knows what’s really going on unless you’re right there in the factories and testing grounds.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Wally
  85. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gunnar

    Thanks for the information. I’ve never heard of Kepler. Your English is excellent

  86. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    In fact all the scientists still claim global warming….

    i look at like this. whoever is in charge is trying to basically invade Europeans’ ancestral homelands, steal what we’ve built, blend us out of existence, and erase our history.

    So why should i give a damn about supposed grobal warming or the future of some mongrelized “humanity”?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @jilles dykstra
  87. @Authenticjazzman

    I don’t recall anyone here asking you this; what instrument do you play?

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  88. Anonymous[174] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Why should you “give a damn about supposed grobal [sic] warming?” What life forms on earth do think you can survive a 10°C global average temperature rise?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Hu Mi Yu
    , @Them Guys
  89. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    if Europeans aren’t going to be part of the future and our land and history is going to be stolen, why should I care?

    I don’t

    • Replies: @Anon
  90. Anon[935] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @anon

    It’s White Surrenderism all around.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  91. @anon

    Money outlays do not bear a linear relation to inventivity and ingenuity. Twenty years ago, before European university education was turned into a joke, research in Europe was much more efficient than anywhere else, with each dollar spent yielding three times more than in the US. I suspect that today a research dollar spent in Asia or Russia yields more than one spent in Europe and much, much more than one spent in the US. Besides, actually very few really essential discoveries were made in the US. Most of the technology that sustains modern life is European. And Russia is also Europe!

    • Replies: @anon
  92. @jilles dykstra

    When I taught at Leiden, each year we were told to adjust the grading norms downward to yield an average of two thirds of students passing an exam. Maintaining high standards was a lofty and laudible ideal, so we were told, but since the personnel budget was allocated in accordance with the number of students graduating, we would not wish to cut our personnel outlays, and put our own jobs on the line, now would we?

    Thus under the very eyes of a greedy public, the once respectable Dutch university system was killed. Today it is really dead and there is no hope of it ever regaining its former high standard.

  93. @AaronB

    I agree that when death is inevitable it is best to face it, but nothing in the Western predicament indicates that we are doomed. It is just a series of mistakes which threw societies off course. Mistakes can be corrected, and I think they are in the process of being corrected right now.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  94. Anonymous[795] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    When you think you’ll escape to Jewheaven and don’t care about “the things of this world,” surrenderism is inevitable. That is why Jewsus-worship is so toxic to European culture.

    • Replies: @anon
  95. It’s the source of the funding.

    Once an entity or institution takes “public” (a.k.a. government) funding it must deliver the desired results. Otherwise, the grants/funding, etc., dry up so, is it really any surprise that science, properly understood, often isn’t scientific?

  96. @Colin Wright

    Well, at least you can’t say they aren’t assimilating.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  97. You mentioned Darwin and Marx in the same para and that did me in… how many millions died as a result of Darwinism as opposed to Marxism?

    • Replies: @nickels
  98. Miggle says:
    @Gunnar

    Dear author, it wasn’t Galileo, who discovered “the heliocentric universe”, it was Johannes Kepler (not even Copernikus) who showed how the planets move around the sun.

    I also thought it wasn’t Galileo, though he was almost killed by his church which blamed him for it. From memory he was using Kepler’s results. Both accepted Copernicus’s position that the universe was heliocentric, not geocentric. Kepler proposed that orbits were elliptical. Newton expanded greatly on the mechanics of the heliocentric “world” i.e. universe. They were all heliocentric. I think (vague memory) it was only in the late 19th century that galaxies were understood and it was realized that the universe is not heliocentric, that it is only the sun’s own planets that are its own planets.

  99. Miggle says:
    @Jake

    He is reasoning from the starting point of Modern WASP culture, which assumes that WASP culture is the ideal replacement for old Christendom. And that means certain facts just do not matter.

    Jake, wake. That Kepler was a WASP and Galileo was not has nothing to do with it. Kepler analyzed a mountain of observations by someone who hasn’t been mentioned yet and whose name I’ve forgotten. It wasn’t replacing Christianity with WASP “culture”, and that wasn’t his starting point. It was science, and those astronomy observations were his starting point.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  100. nickels says:

    Science has long been a source of lies, probably since the beginning.
    The scope of scientific inquiry is necessary so small that it provides answers to practically no question of interest. Thus the whole project very soon jumped the bounds of its own scope of inquiry and started to pontificate on things it could never talk to-psychology, sociology, evolution, ecology, etc etc..

    Engineering, on the other hand, which includes praxis, experimentation, iteration-engineering provides answers and objects of great interest.

    I welcome the postmodern critique of science and think it is long overdue. Science has always been a tool of the powers that be, and the conclusions of science have long supported those with power. Darwin and Adam Smith supported Whig power, Marx supported the socialist conspiracy, environmentalism supports the globalists, etc, etc, etc…

    The key is to understand that science is political like any other discipline, whereas engineering is a true science that proves its conclusions.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Anonymous
  101. Them Guys says:
    @Epigon

    The Mini Skirts & Hot Pants era was kind of okay though. Gone now, most got super Fat, and now wear skin tight t-shirts with skin tight stretch pants.

    Basically women are their own worst enemy’s. For example, take any public venue, a Bar maybe, most every female in that bar, will be acting quite normal. Talking, Drinking, looking for a Man. But, soon as a very Hot Babe who looks as good as a playboy centerfold material type enters that Bar…Chaos!

    Most every female present in that Bar when the very hot babe enters the room, will go temporary silent, take a deep breath, hold it in about 30 seconds, and then exhale nastiness like its going out of style. Those other women will state every possible nasty thing they can conceive of against the good looking babe. Even though none of them ever saw her prior, nor know anything about her besides that, she’s a very Hot Babe and every Male noticed it too. And the more those nasty women weigh in excess poundage, the worse they will bash the hot babe. As if its her fault the other women never get men to turn heads and stare at them too.

    Plus this attitude and actions matter not what IQ level or job title the other women have. Its almost across the board for them all to act this way. Just another reason females are so goofy most times.

    I will now likely get bashed here by a few females here since I pointed out this factoid eh.

  102. Anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jake

    Was that Seneca Falls?

  103. Rosie says:
    @Anon

    The cost of medicine has nothing to do with women working in medicine. It has to do with the fact that we are the free health clinic for the entire non White world which includes the Chinese and Indians who fly here a week before their 65 birthday to get all the free Medicare and Medicaid they never paid for.

    Nothing to do with women but everything to do with the men who opened America to unlimited immigration in 1965 and the men who hire the illegal Hispanics and their anchor babies to overwhelm our health system

    Indeed, one wonders if there’s anything they can’t blame on women. Of course, it’s also the fault of Nice White Lady teachers that room-temperature IQ third worlders can’t be taught the three Rs.

  104. Them Guys says:
    @Miggle

    No, it states they cited Individuals not heard of..Not… never heard of female physicists.

  105. Miggle says:
    @Miggle

    That Kepler was a WASP and Galileo was not has nothing to do with it.

    Oops! Kepler was a W and a P, not an A, and I think not a Saxon. Galileo was W and nothing else.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  106. Them Guys says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Today they get multiple PHD’s in about, Everything…But…A…J.O.B.

  107. Miggle says:
    @Miggle

    Double Oops! There I go again. Stupid me. I wish I could delete my last two comments. It finally sank in that you were referring to Lance Welton.

  108. @Rosie

    How did I know? Another article about how women are to blame for everything, with commenters predictably demanding a draconian backlash against all of womankind based on the objectionable conduct of a few.

    Because you’re looking in the right place to find such. If you want to read about evil white men, you need to look somewhere else. Or listen to the nightly news. On any of the available networks. Or sign up for a University Diversity course.

    Women, as a group, who are to blame, are also the ones who can claim credit. For everything. After all, even Einstein had a mother. Without women, the human race does not exist.

    Take no offense. Women who compete with men for available jobs, should expect to find discrimination. After all, if several men are in the running for any job, and any one of them is chosen, discrimination is the only way to make any selection, other than with some kind of blind lottery.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  109. Them Guys says:
    @Hans Vogel

    Sounds like a very fast and easy to achieve PHD may be to, just state that “I am a European White Male, that just Hates myself and All fellow White’s…However, I truly do Love with much passion, African Blacks, Homos, and Female Lefty feminists.” That would create many smiles and approvals it seems. A brand New PHD degree within 3 days or less!…as seen on the ad at the back cover of last months Batman comic book issue….Get your new PHD Degree in less than one week!…Just send a Self addressed envelope, and enclose a Money order or credit card number for, $29.99 to, PHD-Advisor Committee. 123 Smart Guys Ave. Calif. USA. 45666 Zip.

  110. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @AaronB

    Suppressing genetic findings is bad, but the research itself proceeds along illogical assumptions that few in the field wish to question or perhaps can even fathom. So it’s just rot in a very fundamental sense, not just in social reactions to scientific findings.

    And that’s normal and good. We need a break, and everything calcifies and hardens into rigid death sooner or later.

    A bit off-topic, but reading this brought to mind a song quote that was in our high school English textbook many years ago:

    Has it come to your attention how the race of man
    Has been climbing upward since time began
    How it’s been climbing steady, and it’s climbing there still
    But every time you notice it it’s going down hill?

    Going downhill is the way things run,
    For the old have illusions and the young have fun.
    But if you line up all our forebears in the path that they descend,
    A definite improvement is discernible at this end.

    Hi-yo hi-yo discernible at this end.

    I remember the textbook attributing this to a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta. A google search claims it was originally published in the New Yorker in May 1, 1948. A further search in German shows it attributed to Ulysses Africanus by Anderson and Weil dated 1938. Personally I vote for Gilbert and Sullivan, because the English seems a bit too English for an American composer. Anyway it’s a good poem, and well worth plagiarizing.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  111. @ThreeCranes

    Saxophones : Alto, Soprano, ( straight) , Flute, and vocals.

    AJM

  112. @Hans Vogel

    I remember quite well how flabbergasted my professors were, I think in 1963, when The Hague began to interfere with university education, ordering that ‘too difficult’, in my opinion at the time, as a student, essential books were removed from the obligatory literature list, and the number of pages to be read was limited.
    Some university theses of ten years ago, the same level as a HBS-B essay in 1960, in my opinion.
    Thilo Sarrazin, ‘Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen’, München 2010 states that hardly anyone can read something of few pages with intellectual content.
    And so we got the climate madness
    Christian Gerondeau, ‘Le CO2 est bon pour la planete, Climat, la grande manipulation’, Paris 2017

    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  113. @nickels

    ” Science has long been a source of lies, ”
    In science the experiment decides what is truth, so there cannot be lies in science.

    • Replies: @nickels
    , @Anon
  114. @Anon

    You can doubt whatever you want.
    There are quite a few indications that USA military technology now is far behind.
    But of course, this is not absolutely sure.

    • Replies: @anon
  115. @jilles dykstra

    ” Did they at the time see the rewards?”

    You mean the “rewards” of Hiroshima, or Nagasaki, or Chernoble, Madame Curies reward of nuclear poisoning.

    Look with these abberated kinds of rewards mankind would be better off without research in these areas, but you have missed my point anyway, and that being ; The “scientists” delving into said fields are more than welcome to do so as long as they finance it themselves.
    What I strongly disapprove of is that the poor assembly-line tax-slaves are forced to finance the “hobbies” of these “Researchers.
    Add to these facts the element that most of the researchers are Marxists, then you have the whole story.
    AJM

    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
  116. @anon

    Complete nonsense about ‘all scientists’: Christian Gerondeau, ‘Le CO2 est bon pour la planete, Climat, la grande manipulation’, Paris 2017

    • Replies: @Mike P
  117. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Anonymous

    Why should you “give a damn about supposed grobal [sic] warming?” What life forms on earth do think you can survive a 10°C global average temperature rise?

    Classic abuse of statistics here. The distribution is not normal, and it is skewing.
    Low temperatures are rising much faster than the highs leading to the more uniform climate expected from paleontology. Nearly all life forms will survive.

    Off the top of my head a few fallacies of climate “science”:

    You can count how many species there are or how many are becoming extinct.

    There was a stable pre-industrial CO2 level.

    That burning “fossil” fuel puts CO2 into the air, while burning wood chips does not.

    That we can reduce atmospheric CO2 levels by cutting back our use of coal and oil to pre-industrial levels.

    That warming brings only disasters and no benefits.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @jilles dykstra
  118. Agent76 says:

    Jun 20, 2016 The Century of the Self – Part 1: “Happiness Machines”

    The story of the relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American nephew, Edward Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations profession in the 1920s and was the first person to take Freud’s ideas to manipulate the masses. He showed American corporations how they could make people want things they didn’t need by systematically linking mass-produced goods to their unconscious desires.

  119. nickels says:
    @jilles dykstra

    In science the experiment decides what is truth, so there cannot be lies in science.

    That is just propaganda.
    The reality is that science is determined by clan voting (peer review) and by the interests of the Oligarchs (funding).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  120. nickels says:
    @Reuben Kaspate

    It may be a tie. Social Darwinism was a big cause/theme of both world wars, and was also very big among the Chinese militarists. Certainly Fuhrer was a huge Malthusian/Darwinist, as were the intelligentsia throughout the West and Russia at the dawn of the 20th century.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  121. nickels says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    mathematicians are…more susceptible to irrational prejudices than an average American

    I concur. After all, the NPC is a computer, and computers are logic/mathematics incarnate.
    I would add scientifically trained people, in general, to your hypothesis. There is also the aspect that such people tend to be authority pleaser’s-good students and ambitious career minded folk-which leads them to falling for whatever is pushed down their throats.

  122. Them Guys says:
    @anarchyst

    I read an article about 10 years ago, about the UN and the half dozen or so, Main perps that invented the entire Global Warming story claim. It described how the some UN council gave those guys status as experts so they could create a UN council of “experts”.

    Canadas Morrice Strong a big lefty lib Billionaire along with a few of his pals, a total of 5 or 6 people, held a private and secret meeting in the early or mid 1960′s. They basically had a complaint that while their main desire was a Global NWO One global govnt etc. They also lamented the fact that to achieve it would probably require another huge word war, one even worse than WWII was. So at their meeting, they focused on what other type scenarios will cause same type major chaos, upsets, and create a global wide society of folks who will remain in total abject Fear for their and the earths future, unless of course, wise folks like the meeting group could intervene and save the day and planet too.

    They also had huge desires to get more money out of the people globally. Moneys earned like thru Wars, but…without the mass deaths and destructions wars create.

    While the group of massively wealthy, “Know it All’s” and “Genius Experts” chatted and planned, they got frustrated at their inability to think up any type scenario equal to a new world war.

    Then one guy asked, “Well can anybody think of even one thing that can so affect the entire world like a real world war can and does?….Then another member, blurted out…”The WEATHER!”

    [MORE]

    Eureka! Ah Ha!!…The…..weather!…Indeed Yes, weather Is a global phenomenon, and Bad weather, Too much Rains, Tornados, etc definitely has the exact same equal affects on every person globally!…..And then and there it was agreed on, they’d create a mass hysteria Via every MSM, with the UN backing it with tons of “studies” and reports which will scare such a global massive Fear within most of the planets peoples. Then after enough time for sufficient fear mongering they can begin to spew their New solutions for…Global Warming! The New and Worst threat to humanity and the very planet earth itself….Solutions such as, Taxes, Much more Taxes to thwart warming, Less consumerism of, Fuels especially Gasoline and Diesel, and of course propane for heat and cooking!….Then add in, NO more legal use of Wood heating, and worse yet Coal just outright Ban coal use globally…Which Later was switched to Clean coal is okay, after Bill Klinton added 7/8ths of Utah state as Off Limits due to an Indian res need to expand some rock staircase of injun lore. And the Only Two places with lots of good clean coal are Utah and China!…Soon as Bubba Klinton got his massive campaign donations from that Chinese Bag Man, Johnny Riad was it? The clean burn coal Fix was In….Claim most of UTAH Off Limits for coal or all other mined stuff, so them Injuns can build a larger Parking Lot with Public Rest Room facilities it lacked prior…Injuns only asked for another 200 acres to add to existing 40 acre fed protected landmark sight, Winding Rock staircase it was called (?)…So to please his Commie pals in China, Klinton did an exec order to shut don 7/8ths of entire state!.

    Soon every scientist, org, lefty loon, and the UN went wild on fraud claims of Global Man Made warming effects…Bad predictions out 100 to 500 years future!…The fuckin sky is falling folks!

    And just like all else once proven wrong or a fraud claim happens…It is treated like the Jews HoloHoax event and six million Jews claims are..NO doubts, No alternate proofs, accepted period. And any who Dare go against fraud wisdoms, even if they have documented proof galore, is a damn Nazi who need be fired asap, and black balled for rest of life. So that Nothing Factual nor honest or truthful can ever be allowed a seat at the lefty table of “wise experts”.

    The entire global man made warming event and episode has from the very start all been a Huge Fraud. Spear headed by Morrice Strong and 4-5 of his hand picked pals and co-conspired by them and the UN.

    It is the main reason we all of a sudden began to hear nonstop, constant MSM News claims, with various “Experts” claiming of Peak Oil!…Global Overpopulation!…Lack of Foods in a decade!

    Ocean levels raised 300 feet, Jew York Under water!… Lack of Air for Human and Animal Breathing! and on and on it went…ALL LIES!…None to Date happened, even when many are 40-yrs late and were promised to happen 40 yrs ago or sooner….No lack of Oil, Gas, Propane, Air, etc…

    All a concocted basket of abject Lies…Designed to get 7 billion folks to agree on most anything regardless how fuckin goofy it sounds. And Pay Higher Taxes to Curb Warming! Oy Vey!

    They just Gotta Do….Something!…..Anything!…Please! Save the earth and Us!

    Do it for…Them..Children’s….Wont You? Indeed them po po chillins, especially in Africa where each female pumps out chillins by the Litter!

    Global Man Made/Caused Warming was/Is a huge Lie Hoax almost as big as the Jews HoloHoax events……ps, IIRC Mr. Strong Died aprox a year or so ago, perhaps he’s now roasting in hell eh?

    And this Warming Lie was started back in the 1960′s!….These Satanic lying Devils plan long term usually.

  123. AaronB says:
    @Brás Cubas

    I never said we are doomed, quite the opposite actually. Just the culture of the past 500 years, based on extreme control of nature and denial of our place in it, is finally winding down.

    To pretend that its just a series of mistakes seems to miss the fundamental patterns we see in history and in nature, of expansion followed by contraction. It also seems to miss that a culture based on denying nature and infinite expansion cannot last indefinitely.

    So if you accept that death is natural, when do you think our culture will die? Do you think it can go on indefinitely?

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
    , @allis
  124. Them Guys says:
    @Anonymous

    Looks as if the very Same “Anonymous” poster that has relentlessly claimed a huge belief in Global Warming nonsense with false data etc at a website called SHTF dot com. Is Now here at UNZ!

    If it is the same person?…No amount of documented proofs, no 35,000 scientists who paid for own ad in NY Times, with a Two page sized ad, listing every of the 35,000+ Scientists that Object and demanded open honest science facts which show, No such thing as man made warming period. Will ever change this posters mind. At SHTF website forums, folks there have spent Years providing truthful info and data etc…With No success in changed mind of the global warming fool.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  125. @Authenticjazzman

    It simply turns my stomach when I think about these telescopes costing hundreds of millions of Dollars and used to take purty, and totally useless pictures of spiraling star formations hundreds of light years away.

    For what fucking purpose are these immense amounts of tax-slave monies being
    wasted? Answer : for no actual functional purpose whatsoever, rather than to provide entertainment and activity for the “research” assholes who have no fucking concern or even gratitude for the guys on the production lines who are providing them, the “researchers” with these ill-spent, in reality totally wasted assets.

    It pains me to think of the the poor working stiffs, who arise at five in the morning and trek off to their menial jobs, so as to generate the billions and billions of wasted monies, im order to keep the “researchers” happy and occupied, billions which most certainly could be applied to far more sensible and worthy areas, phooey.

    AJM

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
  126. nickels says:
    @fitzhamilton

    Well said.
    And it is good to point out how the scholastic irreverence for the mystery led, in a centuries long chain of thinking, directly to the nihilistic modern project. For the West, by putting reason ahead of faith, entered into a process whereby the church overstepped the bounds of its own understanding, and became an intellectual dictator, leading to the inevitable conflict between the process of experimentation and the scholastic dogma. The result was the reformation, at once, as a new project to seek a more intellectually coherent church, and then, by result, atheism and secular philosophy as a means to heal the division of the reformation and arrive, once more, at a unified thought.

    In fact, without the assumption of God and the Logos, the very objects and relations betwixt that constitute the essence of science can not be postulate or discerned-the universe is but a large bowl of shapeless oatmeal and solipsism is the only knowledge.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  127. Anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @Them Guys

    Which data are false of the graphed Temp, CO2, and/or CH4?

    No such thing as man made warming period: is that really your claim?

  128. lavoisier says: • Website
    @El Dato

    This is consistent with my original suggestion to bring in outside experts to rebut the Hill-Tabachnikov paper.

    This statement gives her away right off. There was never an intention to review the merits of the paper. The intention was to discredit the paper, regardless of merit.

    Shameful charlatan.

    We have the Gould Effect in Biology.

    Perhaps the “Wilkinson Effect” in Mathematics is next??

  129. Anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @nickels

    Natural Selection =/= Social Darwinism. OMG, EVOLUTION IS LITERALY HITLER! You sound like some retarded leftist feminists. Jew-worshiper, probably.

  130. Anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @nickels

    You worship a magical Jewish Rabbi, right? They all sound as equally miffed that science has disproven so much of their mystical garbage.

  131. TheJester says:

    “When philosophy paints its gray on gray, then has a form of life grown old, and with gray on gray it cannot be rejuvenated but only known; the Owl of Minerva first takes flight with twilight closing in.”

    -G. W. F. Hegel, “Preface,” Philosophy of Right

    Minerva is female and the Owl of Minera is effeminate. In the twilight of a civilization, a society expresses itself in effeminate values. It is no longer able to assert itself; it no longer believes in itself; it can no longer protect itself. Might as well turn it over to the ladies to run for a while … although they will not run this one for long as Muslim, Hispanic, and Bantu males and their macho cultures start to assert themselves. A prediction: White women will rue the day they turned on their men.

    The Romans experienced the same phenomenon. In its twilight, there was an expression: “Rome rules the world … and, Rome is ruled by women.” Roman men? They became effeminate; they refused military service; they refused public service. The job of protecting the Empire was outsourced, first, to Germanic warriors … and, then, to Germanic generals. The role of managing the Empire was outsourced to conspiring women behind the throne. One day, the Germanic generals realized they were in charge. They brush away the Romans. Enter the Dark Ages.

    We’re no different. The Age of Reason (the Enlightenment that spawned modern civilization, physics, chemistry, industry, medical science, and took humanity to the moon) is over. We are entering a new age. What shall we call it?

    The Age of Feminism? … too short a period of time.

    The Age of Emotion and Feeling? … as above, not credible in even the short run because, within it, nothing works.

    The New Dark Ages? … what do you think? A holding pattern until a new age emerges under its own power with renewed masculine strength, belief, and confidence in its own future.

    • Replies: @Reuben Kaspate
    , @Rosie
    , @Rosie
  132. Anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @nickels

    That’s just propaganda. Faith is determined by clan voting (fellowship of the saints) and by the interests of the Oligarchs (the Cathedral).

  133. Them Guys says:
    @Hans Vogel

    It is obvious that an agenda has been perpetrated upon folks with education issues. It basically boils down to…First Lefty Marxist commie libs gained full controls of public schools, Teacher unions, and Universities…This due in large part to Frankfurt School Jewish Leftys came to America in late 1930′s when they realized Germans were going to Boot them and their commie crap out.

    Once leftys got full education controls installed. They had TV News and Movies etc constantly barrage folks with stories of how, todays kids and students will never get a good pay job, unless they All attend a College or University. No college degree?…No Good Pay Job! Back 40-45 yrs ago, it got pounded into us teens and early adults. “You Must attend a college or forget totally a good paying job or even a job at all!” I recall hearing it from every adult in my life it seemed. Daily on TV news. Must attend college or no good pay job period. They dismissed any job like building trades etc as non existent by time we kids grow to adulthood. Forget carpenters, plumbers, heat & cooling trade etc…Must go to College!

    But their real true agenda and goal was always an impossible Equality for everyone. Marxist Equality for All. They tried to raise up Negros by the Boot Straps methods…A Total Failure. Next up, they switched gears and began a studies and text books program to Dumb Down European White students, to make Negroes equal to Whitey Kids. That worked swell! Today we have a Nation of mostly stupid as a rock population of Both youth and parents.

    [MORE]

    However, as per usual and so typical of lefty Marxist clowns who did this, they also had a much more and well hidden agenda…Never spoken of until recent times. That hidden agenda of getting every school kid and parent convinced to attend a college and get that degree for good pay jobs. Was the agenda to, De-Program kids and Parents from all forms prior belief in God, Christianity, White racial awareness in People, and overall forget most every decent and proper thing they ever learned and knew. And that too has been a roaring success.

    And it Had to get done in Colleges…Because when kids are in lower grades and high schools, they, most of them, are Not Yet aged 18 and Adult status..That matterd Most. Because the things they really wanted to “Teach” cannot be taught to non adults unless Parents approve and more important Agree in Writing to!…Marxist crap would be Child abuse if taught to under aged 18 kids. But once aged 18 and an adult legally?…No Limits to what bullshit commie agendas can be instilled in younger minds. And No amount of parental protests matters any longer.

    This is why and how those lefty commie loons are able now today to, Trash everything most folks hold dear, everything called Patriotism, Christian, and of course, European White Race. And why we now are seeing zero Cops, zero Fed Govnt nor State Govnt officials speaking out or stopping it when, Statues of Southern Confed Heros are brought down or removed and placed in storage rooms. And we are also seeing a vast mandate for a Re-Writing of Every possible thing, issue, item, invention, discovery, of and by Euro Whites.

    Todays America, EU nations too I’d guess, have masses of very ignorant Negroes running around claiming it was Their ancestors, black slaves, who really Built the nation of America. Blacks designed and built most cities, invented far more and better things than Whitey ever did etc etc.

    And this is all the typical methods and agendas in every nation and culture and society, whenever actual Marxist lefty commies Hijack a Nation and its main Fed Govnt apparatus.

    They must Re-write true actual historic events and achievements, and replace it all with some other delusional clap trap falsehoods. Otherwise, their new adults which came from all those dumbed down school kiddies, may one day discover the Past Historical and factual Truths. That cannot be allowed to happen. For if it does, the very first thing to get Booted out if not placed up against a wall and shot, or hung for treason will be those orig Marxist leftys. This agenda I described here is a Must for any lasting full control over the new Marxist created country.

    And This time around, the Marxist lefty control freaks are trying to Hijack the entire Worlds nations at same time frame. Some folks may laugh at it, or whatever. But any realistic thinking about what you have seen transpire since the 1960′s era..even though it all originated farther back, 1960′s were the main event beginning of Todays messed up everythings.

    Barley anybody not at least 45-50 years old Now today, has any clue or inkling of idea of all this stuff. So as planned by those devious nation wreckers, once the largest group of citizens, Baby Boomers are gone and dead…No significant numbers of wide awakened and fully aware folks will exist…Not in the usa nor the eu nations. There simply shall be nobody left who knows the real deal, and can fight against or halt it.

    Just as one Must Know who the enemy is in order to fight it….So too folks must know what and how it was done, and whom did it to make such a huge mess of it all. In order to ever have a slim chance at best for a future fix.

    However, while lefty Marxist now in full control refuse to consider let alone admit to it. If their grand scheme plans continue and become a done deal so to speak, it is all going to fall apart before they know what hit them. Their conception of a perfect and equal for all world is an impossibility. Always has been, and this time around when it all melts down, it is they who will get that short shaft and then deeply regret what they “accomplished”. I just hope their fail happens much sooner and I remain alive to see it unfold. I also hope I can assist in at least a small portion of those mass hangings.

    The fools such as they are never remember, Careful what you wish for, because you just may Get It!

    They wish for and organize another French and Russian revolution event, with them in charge of course. But America ain’t 1917 Russia nor 1776 (?) France…And it just may backfire on the fools big time…I sure hope it does. I also hope more and more younger folks find websites like unz forums and get fast wised up, for we need younger folks for such a task as a real fix.

  134. pensword says:
    @fitzhamilton

    Know this: the University is a Christian institution.

    The oldest university of record predates the first purportedly Christian university established in Bologna, Italy.

  135. @TheJester

    Athene is a butch and with a sober owl she will rule… the white Christian women will be protected by the Jewish lesbians. Just wait and see.

  136. Rosie says:
    @HallParvey

    Because you’re looking in the right place to find such. If you want to read about evil white men, you need to look somewhere else. Or listen to the nightly news. On any of the available networks. Or sign up for a University Diversity course.

    I there a place I can go where I’m neither demonized for being White nor demonized for being a woman?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Jason K.
  137. Rosie says:
    @TheJester

    A prediction: White women will rue the day they turned on their men.

    When do you think we “turned on” our men?

  138. Rosie says:
    @TheJester

    Minerva is female and the Owl of Minera is effeminate. In the twilight of a civilization, a society expresses itself in effeminate values. It is no longer able to assert itself; it no longer believes in itself; it can no longer protect itself. Might as well turn it over to the ladies to run for a while … although they will not run this one for long as Muslim, Hispanic, and Bantu males and their macho cultures start to assert themselves.

    There is no path to survival without a balance of yin/yang. It is hypermasculine expansionism (one might call it “male reproductive strategy”) that leads to civilizational exhaustion and weakens the homeland. Thanks to the British Empire, London is now a brown city.

  139. If someone excels in math, they excel in logical reasoning so, in general, you can expect them to possess an almost robotic ability to see through the emotion and dogma that props up Postmodernism.

    Actually, I’m sure this is completely untrue. If someone excels in Math, he (or very occasionally she) excels at logical reasoning in Math and is typically no better at generalist, common sense sorts of issues in real life than regular people are.

    In fact, he will likely be worse, since the hyper-focus on their specialty may result in their having neglected things that ordinary people pay more attention to. This is, I guess, what the concept of nerdiness is about.

    In any case, as best I have ever been able to observe, the logical reasoning skills typically do not transfer outside the specialized field. Thus, a chess grandmaster is really good at chess and outside of that, in regular real world issues, is not better than ordinary people.

  140. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Institutes_of_Health

    National Institute of Health , Bethesda ,Maryland , the biggest biomedical research facility in the world

    a budget of 37.000 million dollars for 2018 , tons of publications every year , tons of ” impact ” ..

    real findings ?

  141. Anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    The only abuse here is your halfwit analysis. The graph is all factual data, gathered from the last 400,000 years from ice core samples, save for the speculation that the temperature will rise in proportion to the rest of the CO2 and CH4 data that has already risen up in a sharp spike “off the chart.”

    • Replies: @Hu Mi Yu
  142. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    It’s White Surrenderism all around.

    that’s not what it is at all.

    it’s more about seeing the problem of the other races being against you, realizing they aren’t your friends and never were because their interests aren’t the same as yours – instead of wasting time on environmentalism, sportsball, or whatever other idiocy most people are up to

  143. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hans Vogel

    Money outlays do not bear a linear relation to inventivity and ingenuity.

    yes, i agree and no doubt there is a ton of useless fat that could be trimmed from the U.S. “defense” budget but i thought someone posted that Russia only spends $66 billion per year on defense? if so the U.S. has had a 10x edge in spending year after year after year for a long while now and thats a lot to overcome

    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  144. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hans Vogel

    Maintaining high standards was a lofty and laudible ideal, so we were told, but since the personnel budget was allocated in accordance with the number of students graduating, we would not wish to cut our personnel outlays, and put our own jobs on the line, now would we?

    Thus under the very eyes of a greedy public

    very sad but have you not twisted things?

    who were the greedy ones? seems debatable

    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  145. @jilles dykstra

    “Hardly anyone can read something of few pages with intellectual content,” spot on indeed. But it is worse: today nobody in the Netherlands under 40 is able to read German and French, let alone other important European languages such as Spanish, Italian or Russian. All they can manage is simple English. I am sure most cannot even understand a Dutch text written before World War II.

    Thilo Sarrazin and Christian Gerondeau will forever remain off-limits for the Dutch, unless their books are translated into English. Better proof of the fact that the Netherlands, like the rest of Europe, has become a pathetic US colony can hardly be found. Still, in case anybody can read Italian, I highly recommend a masterful analysis of the rickety remnants of “Western Civilization,” namely: Umberto Galimberti, I vizi capitali e i nuovi vizi (Milan: Feltrinelli, 2003).

  146. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    try again, no Christian here

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  147. @anon

    On the day before 9/11, Donald Rumsfeld gave an angry in-house speech denouncing the disappearance of TRILLIONS of dollars from the Pentagon budget. Next day, a missile hit the Pentagon right at the spot where they were keeping the financial records. Much of the US defense budget has since a long time been disappearing into many people’s pockets through immense pork barrel projects.

    Of course, Russia is not free from corruption either, but I am sure it has not yet spoiled their entire defense establishment like in the US. Moreover, defense spending in Russia is also often hidden in the budgets of other ministries, like in the US. The US fugures are grossly bloated, the Russian figures are just too low.

    There are simply no reliable figures to make a comparison between the actual US and Russian defense budgets.

    • Replies: @anon
  148. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    You can doubt whatever you want.

    thanks

    There are quite a few indications that USA military technology now is far behind.

    where are these indications? although i live in the U.S. my ego really isn’t involved in whether or not the U.S. is still ahead in overall military technology. can you say the same?

  149. @anon

    University salaries were–and are–quite moderate to say the least. I am referring to a period when most people in academia actually LIKED to work there, for the thrill of the job, not for money. The measures I am referring to were designed to relieve public finances, to make things more efficient.

  150. I believe Kepler used the observations of Tycho Brahe, the duelist and gold prosthetic nose wearer.

    • Replies: @Miggle
  151. anon[169] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hans Vogel

    Moreover, defense spending in Russia is also often hidden in the budgets of other ministries

    this is interesting, would make more sense than just $66 billion per year

  152. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Doesn’t matter, society is still very toxically Christian, including liberal humanist values.

    The belief that the human species is a moral agent struggling to realise its inherent possibilities – the narrative of redemption that sustains secular humanists everywhere – is a hollowed-out version of a theistic myth. The idea that the human species is striving to achieve any purpose or goal – a universal state of freedom or justice, say – presupposes a pre-Darwinian, teleological way of thinking that has no place in science.

    What scares the new atheists | John Gray | World news | The Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/03/what-scares-the-new-atheists

    That, especially the bolded part, is still you. You’re seeking redemption.

    There is no redemption, anywhere.

    • Replies: @anon
  153. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hans Vogel

    You’re not alone in telling horror tales of grade inflation, as told be this fellow.

    Confessions of a College Professor
    Rants and raves about the mess of higher education in the United States.

    http://professorconfess.blogspot.com/

    I once thought I wanted to be an “academic,” and am so glad I didn’t follow that path of disillusion. Although I found another. :)

    • Replies: @Hans Vogel
  154. Herald says:

    The US spends vast amounts on 800 or so overseas military bases, which are really only there to keep the empire intact and have little to do with defence. Russia spends its defence budget on defence of Russia.

    • Replies: @anon
  155. annamaria says:
    @Rosie

    Rosie, I feel your pain, but if you want to be taken seriously, please do a good search of papers in gender effect. You may want to start with visuospatial processing.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  156. @Brás Cubas

    ‘Well, at least you can’t say they aren’t assimilating.’

    Oh, I think they assimilate okay. I even think they’re alright as people.

    I just think America has enough inhabitants already. Hotel’s fully booked. Sorry. Try Canada.

  157. anon[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    That, especially the bolded part, is still you. You’re seeking redemption.

    i don’t think so

    btw this sounds like something hateful that a jew would come up with:

    Doesn’t matter, society is still very toxically Christian

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  158. anon[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Herald

    Exactly

    i wonder what the American people would decide if they were given the choice to spend say only $400 billion per year on “defense” and give up the role of world’s policeman and spend the other $300 billion per year on infrastructure instead?

  159. @Brás Cubas

    ‘Historical facts are not final, because history is not over. Your comparison with sleep is problematic. Civilizations do not sleep. They simply die, and then never rise again. The Greeks never rose again. The Romans never rose again. Western Civilization will not rise again, so I think they’d better fight their demise to the last of their energy.’

    Isn’t it more accurate to say that civilizations never die at all, but morph into something else and/or influence their successors? The Greeks most certainly helped to shape Rome — and endured through first Islamic and then medieval Christian civilization. They’re with us today.

    The Romans hung on until 1453. By that point, they were consciously being used as a template by the Italian city states and such; the Founding Fathers seem to have aspired to what they regarded as Roman virtue. Rome too lives on in us.

    Even the worst of the screeching harridans that beset us today accept without question our most essential values. Modern India still relies on the model Britain gave her for law, government, etc. Mexico dearly wants to be just like the USA. She has no desire at all to resurrect the Aztecs. China, when it emerges as a center of civilization in its own right, will probably have imbibed more from the West than it will have from its own past.

    Individuals die. Civilizations do not.

  160. Rosie says:
    @annamaria

    Rosie, I feel your pain, but if you want to be taken seriously, please do a good search of papers in gender effect. You may want to start with visuospatial processing.

    Are these papers going to tell me that men are smarter than women in certain respects? If so, I’m already aware of that, so I don’t understand your point. Perhaps you could clarify?

  161. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    No, the point is to treat you fairly. The women in the West are already enjoying so many un-fair advantages that it’s not even funny. It’s actually detrimental to our societies.

    So yes – if you still have grievances – you’re nagging.

    I have a grievance or two, but none of them have anything to do with the underrepresentation of women in tech. I thought I’d made it clear that I don’t think women are particularly interested in tech, and it is that rather than discrimination that explains our absence.

    Perhaps you’ll understand my point if you go back and read the comment I was replying to. Also, look at Fred Knee’s reactionary comment above about women.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  162. Anonymous[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Ironically, that last quip makes you sound like a Jewsus-worshiper, who always claim that anybody who pans their Jew-worship must be some Jew. It’s hilarious. Rest assured, I’m neither a Jew nor a pathetically co-dependent wannabee-Jew.

    • Replies: @anon
  163. anon[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    ok, well i try to be reasonable

    i wondered who complained about “toxic masculinity” —>>> feminists?

    so who would complain about “toxic Christianity”???

    and who comes up with these kind of terms??? seems to be the same old tribe

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  164. I wish someone would rewrite this article in clear English.

  165. Anonymous[208] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Yes, yes, anybody who uses “toxic” as an adjective must be a Jew. Your oh so “reasonable” logic is unassailable! You’ve been suspecting Rabbi Ted Nugent for a while, right? Stay sharp! LOL
    TOXIC’ DEMOCRATS
    infowars.com/are-the-toxic-democrats-destined-to-become-a-permanent-minority-party/
    Toxic Hillary Clinton
    dailywire.com/news/22716/democrats-distance-themselves-toxic-hillary-joseph-curl
    Ted Nugent called Hillary Clinton a “toxic c*nt”
    westword.com/news/ted-nugent-called-hillary-clinton-a-toxic-c-nt-eighteen-years-ago-5872607

    • Replies: @anon
  166. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. Nuclear winter was as much a hoax as climate change. It was all over the media for a few years before global warming was created. I certainly didn’t believe the coming nuclear winter.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  167. BrianG says:

    Your writing is marred by your habit of paraphrasing people you disagree with, then linking to their addresses with the clear exhortation that your readers should write them. I can find plenty of people to disagree with based on their own, original writing. I don’t need you to point me in the direction of disapproved people.

  168. anon[165] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    calm down

    Yes, yes, anybody who uses “toxic” as an adjective must be a Jew.

    no, someone who uses toxic + masculinity or Christianity etc —->>> typical targets of the left, might be a jew

    and someone who cooks up these kind of phrases also might be a jew

    the fact that for some reason you have a seething hatred for Christianity as well, tips the scales against you – nobody hates Christians and Christianity like jews do

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  169. Anonymous[343] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    You’re retarded, anon. There is no “coming” nuclear winter.” The only possibility of one is after a global thermonuclear war from the smoke generated by burning cities. Nuclear winter has nothing to do with either global warming, or a coming and overdue cyclic ice age, which you still conflate it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  170. Anonymous[343] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Calm down? Projecting your rage, I see. Nobody rages incoherently like jews do. I’m glad I got your kippah tilted.

    • Replies: @anon
  171. Once again with the “IQ only measures the ability to take IQ tests so it means nothing” argument. This argument is so absurd on the face of it that it deserves no reply other than the common sense comment that if the critic were faced with selecting for his own child either a 60 IQ or a 160 IQ, we all know with absolute certainty which IQ the critic would choose. Such critics of IQ must take us for idiots.

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @anon
  172. Miggle says:
    @Alex_Cantab

    That’s right, Tycho Brahe. I couldn’t remember the name. If he was a duelist he spent an astronomical amount of time on bare-eyed astronomy between duels. Or do you mean something else by the word duelist? Is there a dualist belief?

  173. gepay says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    there is intellectual intelligence and emotional intelligence – I know I was born male and gradually realized I was born emotionally challenged like many males.. For instance it only took me 20 years of arguing with my wife to no good effect before I realized that it wasn’t about being logically correct. It was that something was bothering her. There is even a body centered intelligence that exceptional athletes have more of. Most people have their areas of expertise but are often idiots in other areas of life. Even people that are deranged can have correct ideas on some subjects.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  174. @Anonymous

    Thanks for the blog you suggested!

    Poor kids, really, all those adolescents worrying about the future and deciding they should get an “education!” It seems to me the bloated educational system in the “West,” handing out degrees to just too many people is really intended to keep all those kids busy and off the streets. There are no jobs for them anyway, so better fool them into thinking they are doing something useful.

    Thus, colleges and universities are flooded with kids who do not belong there in the first place and who should never, never be admitted to higher education: too stupid, too disinterested, too lazy.

    This corrupted system then ultimately destroys science and scholarship, ushering hard science back into the Dark Age.

    It is a good thing for humanity and science the Chinese, Indians, Iranians and Russians are there!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  175. @Colin Wright

    ” Civilizations do not sleep. They simply die, and then never rise again. The Greeks never rose again. The Romans never rose again ”
    Indeed, civilisations hardly ever die, they live on.
    The demos of the Greek city states still is our example of the best possible rule.
    Stating that Napoleon created a civilisation is not done, yet he created the modern centrally governed state, with meritocracy.
    Of course, meritocracy has its limitations, but it is a great difference with the hereditary society Napoleon destroyed.
    It is little known that we Dutch has success in our naval battles with the British because, on British warships an aristocrat, who knew next to nothing about sailing was the captain.
    The real sailing was done by a real sailor, the Dutch fleet ans ships were commanded wy sailors with no aristocratic background, men as Tromp and Piet Hein.
    The oligarchy ruling Holland at the time went on their knees in order to make these men accept the leadership of the fleet, they at first refused, ‘they were common people’.

  176. @Hu Mi Yu

    Some 500 million years ago the earth was 52°C.
    Life existed, but of course other life than today.
    In the era of the dinosaurs, high CO2 concentration, and high temperature, thus lush vegetation, that could sustain these enormous animals.

  177. @Colin Wright

    You seem to contradict yourself as you talk about the Aztecs as apparently a counterexample: a civilization which is really dead.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  178. @AaronB

    I have to disagree with you. Whatever the problem is with our culture, science should be valued. Even if its use got us into trouble, we have only two ways out of it: a rational and relatively painless way, which is through more science, and a chaotic and very painful way.

  179. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    I agree with you on tech but I also agree with Wilson. There was nothing in his post advocating for unfair treatment of women. So why did you lash out like that?

    Fred Knee was lashing out on his own but that’s another story.

    • Replies: @Rosie
  180. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @gepay

    I’m really getting heavy NPC vibes from your post. Eagerly accepting and repeating “common wisdom” narratives is not healthy. Real wisdom is not common. Especially in this day and age.

  181. @Sin City Milla

    That IQ just measures IQ is simply true.
    This does not mean it means nothing, but we should realize that nobody ever could define ‘intelligence’, so that measuring it is impossible, but also that IQ has a cultural component.
    So I see IQ tests as a measure of how well anyone fits into a western society.

    On stupid and lazy kids getting some degree: professions as car mechanics, plumbers, eletricians, etc are, in my opionion, under valued in society.
    Installing and adjusting a present day gas heating installation well for example is not simple any more.
    We got a new one last year, the old one was 19 years, it was like going from horse traction to a hybrid car.
    Modern cars with unusal problems, hardly a mechanic who can find and solve the problem.
    My brother’s car with a catalytic converter, every six months the lambda sonde failed.
    The third time, after three days at the dealer, the problem was found, and, hopefully, it is now a month ago, solved.

  182. Anonymous[574] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hans Vogel

    You just made my morning! I’m really pleased that you enjoyed it. :)

  183. Anonymous[574] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    The Aztecs were an advanced civilization too, capable of complex astronomical calculations.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  184. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    I agree with you on tech but I also agree with Wilson. There was nothing in his post advocating for unfair treatment of women. So why did you lash out like that?

    Because Wilson’s comment about “women” never being satisfied was a blatant falsehood. In fact, the overwhelming majority of women are not only satisfied with the outcome of the women’s rights movement, they actually think it has gone too far. Overwhelming majorities of White women oppose affirmative action. Moreover, among White women, only a minority of hardcore ideologues opposed Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

    There is an annoying tendency in the dissident Right to treat liberal men as part of an out-of-touch elite, but to treat liberal women as typical and representative of women in general. Pay attention and you will see what I mean straight away.

    The feminist movement as it exists now is a zombie movement kept going by Jewish money. As I have said elsewhere, without Jewish money, the women’s movement would have gone dormant after the seventies.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Colin Wright
  185. APilgrim says:

    Much that presently passes for ‘hard-science’ is fraud.

    Some is motivated by commerce. Most of the rest is politically motivated.

    The so-called ‘social-sciences’ have ALWAYS been fraudulent, to the core.

  186. Anonymous[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    OK I get it now. The “women will never be happy” part was clumsy for sure. I believe he was talking about women who are into “more equality”, “under-representation” and “wage gap” narratives but I see your point.

  187. @Brás Cubas

    ‘You seem to contradict yourself as you talk about the Aztecs as apparently a counterexample: a civilization which is really dead.’

    Well, this is true. As so often, the truth falls somewhere between the tidy theses.

    Okay, civilizations do die sometimes. However, usually the obituaries are exaggerated.

  188. @Rosie

    ‘…There is an annoying tendency in the dissident Right to treat liberal men as part of an out-of-touch elite, but to treat liberal women as typical and representative of women in general. Pay attention and you will see what I mean straight away…’

    ! This is worth noting.

    Of course the converse applies. On the Left, ideologically well-behaved women are seen as good little soldiers. On the other hand, what prominent women there are on the Right tend to seen as some kind of disturbed freak.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  189. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sin City Milla

    what you can count on is those individuals or groups who hate the IQ test usually haven’t done well on it

  190. @Anonymous

    ‘The Aztecs were an advanced civilization too, capable of complex astronomical calculations.’

    Well, first off, the point is that they’re extinct — not whether they were advanced or not.

    Second, I’d call them the opposite of an ‘advanced’ civilization. They were a first-stage, stone-age, militarily primitive civilization; like the Sumerians, or the first Egyptian dynasties, or the people of Mohenjo Daro, or the Mound builders, or…

    No offense. My thinking has always been that the peoples who emigrated to the Americas wound up not reaching the population density, discovery of food crops etc necessary as prerequisites for civilization until about five thousand years after the peoples of the Old World — and sure enough, come 1492, they were about five thousand years behind the curve. Stone-age technologies and cultures, no exposure to the diseases endemic to long-civilized societies, at best proto-literacy — it all looks like the Old World, circa 3000-4000 BC. Definitely several steps behind their Spanish benefactors.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  191. anon[389] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Calm down? Projecting your rage, I see.

    lol, uses BOLD and CAPS, accuses others of projecting their rage

    honesty not your strong suit either

  192. AaronB says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    Nice poem.

    Definitely expresses the Western sensibility well.

  193. @Colin Wright

    ‘…There is an annoying tendency in the dissident Right to treat liberal men as part of an out-of-touch elite, but to treat liberal women as typical and representative of women in general. Pay attention and you will see what I mean straight away…’

    This actually suggests a sociological deficiency on the part of the modern alt-Right.

    Whatever current fashion may be, women are normally seen as supporting an applauding the ideology of their menfolk. This seems to apply whatever the ideology. Ethel Rosenberg certainly didn’t hinder her Julius in his march to the electric chair, and no doubt the aristocratic womenfolk of East Prussia were fully supportive of the militarized culture of their menfolk.

    This happy arrangement still seems to true on the left. Mr Progressive enjoys the prompt applause of Mrs Progressive. But is this true in the Alt-Right — and if it is not true, is the Alt-Right likely to be a viable political movement in the long run?

    After all, it is one thing to reject the perfect equivalency of men and women. It is another thing entirely to reject the possibility that women invariably play a vital role in any successfully functioning social organism.

    Here, too bad I can’t insert a photograph I took. I suppose women among black Africans are the ultimate in an abused and oppressed group. Yet, when I was in Europe, I made a practice of compiling a photo album of all the blacks I saw. In one instance, the menfolk among a group attempted to object. You can see the alpha male approaching in the photo. But it was the women who noticed me first, and who egged their men into action. You can see them shouting and urging the troops forward in the background.

  194. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Nuclear winter was a thing Time magazine and other publications promoted in 1978 79. I never read the articles. Never thought about it.

    A few years later the media reversed itself and promoted global warming.

    There was a book published at the time The Coming Ice Age. Never read it.

    If you want an argument, go to a bar and get drunk and belligerent

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  195. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I’m not conflating anything with anything , just reporting that in 1978 liberals were writing about the coming ice age and nuclear winter just a few years before they invented global warming.

    • Replies: @anon
  196. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    “…self serving professions…”

    Hey, Anon[424] — Have you ever taken care of an old sick relative or have you ever been in a pediatric ward?

    It seems that you are blissfully unaware of insurance racket. There are much more men among the insurance executives — the “selfless profession,” according to you classification — than women.

    And please, explain the readers why men are not flocking to apply for teaching positions at the elementary and middle schools.

  197. Mike P says:
    @jilles dykstra

    Other famous sceptics are Fred Singer, Richard Lindzen, Roy Spencer, John Christie – all pioneers of climate science, every single one of them far more accomplished than any of the alarmists. Most of them agree that man has an impact on climate, but insist that it is minor and not dangerous. The picture you get from just reading the news is totally distorted.

  198. allis says:
    @AaronB

    Our culture is not merely dying. It is being murdered.

  199. SteveK9 says:

    The ‘West’ is not the World. If we are entering a dark age, well Russia and Asia are not. And, most of the Worlds people and before long, most of its Scientists and Mathematicians live there. So, it may be a shame if the West turns its back on reason, but there are other places and people.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  200. Nick says:
    @fitzhamilton

    Really like your comment. You sound like an Orthodox Christian. Your reference to the council of Florence via the head of a needle. Also your use of the word liturgy. I’d love to get in touch. I have no one to talk about science with in my church.

  201. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    #160 Colin Wright: Isn’t it more accurate to say that civilizations never die at all…
    #191 Colin Wright: Well, first off, the point is that they’re extinct…

    Nice thing about contradicting yourself is that you can claim you are always right. One time or the other. LOL

  202. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @SteveK9

    The ‘West’ is not even Europe. It’s just a designation in a major schism in Jew-worship, between Rome (West/Catholic) and Constantinople (East/Orthodox).

  203. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    LOL The reverse of nuclear winter (caused by soot from burning cities in a nuclear war) isn’t global warming, shit-for-brains. You’re fully retarded.

    As far as the “coming” cyclic Pleistocene ice-age, (a completely different thing from nuclear winter hypothesis,) the reverse isn’t global warming either; one can accept both hypotheses, realizing that without global warming, we’d likely soon be in another ice age.

    Study: Global Warming Has Saved Us From a New Ice Age
    breitbart.com/politics/2016/01/14/global-warming-saves-the-world/

    Now get your panties in a twist how breitbart is libruhl. LOL

  204. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:
    @fitzhamilton

    “You have to believe in truth, in objective reality, to be a scientist. This is an act of faith.”

    Wrong. You must not believe your own Bible: “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”

    Scientists accept in the evidence of things seen. Observations, not hope.

    • Replies: @fitzhamilton
  205. @Anon

    What? You’ve seen “dark matter?” You witnessed the “Big Bang” and know what caused and preceded it? I suppose you’ve worked out a unified theory of physics on the inner lid of your lunchbox at recess? You’ve shot some electricity through a soup of organic proteins in a bottle and created some plankton?

    All any of us can do is *hope* that our our “observations” make sense. We’re children on a beach playing with colorful pebbles. An adult comes along, and says “oh, that one’s granite, that other one’s quartz.” We take their word on faith, and apply their words to things. That’s all most of us , even the most brilliant of us manage to do: learn what other people can teach us. Some of us occasionally get to apply meaningful new words to previously unknown things, and teach those words to others. We all expect the sun to rise tomorrow in the east and set in the west, simply because until now it always has.

    You don’t believe in God, because you can’t see him, and can’t prove he exists? Sorry, but you are a fucking idiot. You expect everything to be understood and controlled by your pathetic human intelligence? Well, in that case you are no scientist at all. Because to be a true scientist, you have to humble enough to begin to suspect the limits of your own cognition, in order to begin to get a grasp on what you might really know. But you are far too fucking arrogant for that, obviously.

    I don’t normally engage idiots like you, and haven’t in this thread until now, because your likes are too arrogant and stupid to make it at all worthwhile. You have no humility, and hence have no faith, and thus have nothing meaningful to say. Death is your master, go meet him in prayerless ignorance.

  206. @fitzhamilton

    You don’t believe in God, because you can’t see him, and can’t prove he exists? Sorry, but you are a fucking idiot.

    You’re an even bigger idiot if you’re going to say words against Aristotle and St. Thomas, whom you plainly don’t understand in the least. You do realize that Aquinas is the Common Doctor of the Church, do you not? His description of the Eucharist is de fide teaching; it’s not open for discussion.

    But look who I’m talking to. It’s not as if you have any idea what the teaching actually is. You just like to lambaste it in public because you think it makes you look clever. Christianity for you is just a mystical butt-plug you use to amuse yourself. You are a heretic without the faith, poisoning others with your obscurantist nonsense.

  207. Anonymous[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @fitzhamilton

    fitzhamilton: “You don’t believe in God.”

    Liar.

    Jew-worshipers like you constantly lie like like that, falsely asserting that if one isn’t a Jew-worshiper, then they don’t believe in God. It’s you who is, as you say it, the “fucking idiot.” (Which anyone can tell by your first sentence, without reading further.)

    I’m glad I showed you for the liar you are, you goddam Kike-sucker.

  208. Josecanuc says:
    @Che Guava

    “If there is such a thing as a basic human quality, stupidity is it.” Einstein

    “If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal, not to people or things.” Einstein

    • Replies: @anon
  209. Wally says:
    @Anon

    said:
    “Russia’s notoriously corrupt. Who knows what’s really going on unless you’re right there in the factories and testing grounds.”

    Say what?

    How do you know that “Russia is notoriously corrupt” if you’re not “right there”?

  210. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @Anonymous

    The graph is all factual data, gathered from the last 400,000 years from ice core samples,

    Wrong. The data on the left comes from Vostok (Antarctica) ice cores. The earliest of them is dated at 414,085 years, and the most recent 2342 years ago. There is a certain amount of guesswork in the dates: the actual data is the depth beneath the surface. The assumptions needed to claim those temperatures represents global average are so restrictive that honest scientists report delta O18 rather than temperature. Then we come to the point that the CO2 spike is considerably more recent than the ice core data, so obviously data from another source has been pasted on the right side. There is the scale of the CO2 graph, which does not go all the way to the zero. This exaggerates the spike.

    save for the speculation that the temperature will rise in proportion to the rest of the CO2 and CH4 data that has already risen up in a sharp spike “off the chart.”

    Temperature does not rise in proportion to CO2 level, but in proportional to the logarithm of it.

    Taylor Dome ice cores tell a story about more recent history. CO2 levels began rising before “fossil” fuel use. There was a 19th century population boom that caused the consumption of all fuel to rise. It works out to about 1 ton of carbon per capita, and you can see the human contribution causing a rise beginning at the dawn of civilization eight thousand years ago. We cannot control the atmospheric CO2 concentration by limiting consumption of coal and oil. We need carbon-free energy sources, and we will need sequestration as well.

    It is important to look at temperature distributions rather than the average global temperature. Cooler areas are warming much faster than warmer ones. A climate optimum would have CO2 levels somewhere around one thousand ppm, much higher then present day levels.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  211. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @Josecanuc

    “Quoting a fraudster doesn’t help your case” – Einstein

  212. anon[405] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    was it liberals or just the MSM?

  213. Anonymous[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hu Mi Yu

    What a load of clever obfuscation to avoid simple facts. Let’s get to them:

    Do you deny or accept that CO2, having never risen above 300 over the last 400,000 years, are presently over 400, as measured at Mauna Loa Observatory, or not?

    Do you deny or accept that methane levels, having never risen above approx. 800, are now now more than double?

    Your attempts at trying to minimize the huge spikes in atmospheric warming gasses are hilarious, and demonstrate your fundamental dishonesty. Likely, you don’t even accept a couple facts as facts.

    “A climate optimum would have CO2 levels somewhere around one thousand ppm, much higher then present day levels.”

    What a claim. Define “optimum.”

    • Replies: @Mike P
  214. Mike P says:
    @Anonymous

    Do you deny or accept that CO2, having never risen above 300 over the last 400,000 years, are presently over 400, as measured at Mauna Loa Observatory, or not?

    One problem is resolution in time – the recent CO2 spike is high, but also of short duration. The CO2 levels from the ice core data are smoothed over considerable periods of time – in the Antarctic ice cores, you have roughly one data point per millennium. There may well have been short spikes above 280 ppm in the past as well – we have no way of knowing.

    The causation of the recent warming is far from clear. Even the source of the greenhouse gas itself is subject to debate – for example, this paper maintains that “the anthropogenic greenhouse era began thousands of years ago.”

    The AGW hysteria is just more globalist propaganda. “All peoples must come together as one, or life itself will end in a fiery Armageddon.” If you can’t get a clue where that must be coming from, you need to get a new BS detector.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  215. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P

    That was a lame attempt to dismiss the cold, hard facts of the chart. My BS detector smelled you a mile off. Next?

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @Che Guava
  216. Mike P says:
    @Anonymous

    I did not dispute any detail of your chart – I am quite familiar with it, both its significance and its limitations. If you enjoy being played for a sucker by AGW propaganda, suit yourself – and enjoy the warm, fuzzy feeling of agreeing with famous scientists like Stephen Hawking and Al Gore.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  217. Anonymous[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P

    Actually, you did dispute the data, and attempted to cast doubts on its accuracy. Now, you’re trying to backtrack. So tell me, how does accepting scientific data all the sudden equate to “being played for a sucker,” hmm?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Mike P
  218. anon[439] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    So tell me, how does accepting scientific data all the sudden equate to “being played for a sucker,” hmm?

    the ones that push global warming also want to re-distribute wealth to third world countries

    they also use supposed global warming as an excuse for future migration of third worlders to countries that don’t want them

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  219. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Did you address the data? No? It’s real simple:

    a) A chart of 400,000 years of CO2, CH4, and Temp data, pulsing in sync with the Pleistocene ice ages.
    b) Today’s data of CO2 and CH4 that is “off the chart.”

    Can’t address it?

    • Replies: @anon
  220. Mike P says:
    @Anonymous

    I am not disputing any data, nor am I backtracking. I only pointed out that a single data point in the Antarctic ice core record represents the average of approximately 1000 years. Look for yourself, you can download the data set from NOAA, and you will see it contains about as many data points as millennia.

    I also pointed out that we have no way of knowing whether or not any short-term deviations to higher CO2 values (balanced by ones to lower values) occurred in the past that have been lost in the averaging process, which comes about through slow snow compaction atop the ice sheet. Now, even assuming they did not occur, and that the recent rise from 280 to 400 ppm is indeed historically unique, that still doesn’t mean we will see “catastrophic” warming. There should be some warming, but there is no consensus about the exact extent; even the supposed consensus of the IPCC contains a confidence range (pulled out of thin air of course, and shifting over time) whose bounds differ by a factor of two or more.

    Furthermore, even assuming that the worst case scenarios are true, and that we will see several degrees of warming during the rest of this century, that still does not justify the tabloid climate change BS that pronounces every storm, lull, heat, cold, rain or drought the dire yet predictable consequence of man’s sinful ways.

    Note that storms are worst during the depth of the ice ages, not during the warm periods. Storms are to a large degree driven by the temperature gradients between the polar and the equatorial regions, which are steeper in an ice age than in a warm period.

    The powers that be had gotten bored of WMD, or maybe they felt that the sheeple had, and so they invented Climate Change (TM). Different plot, same punchline – “mankind must come together as one in order to save the planet and life itself.” Wherever exactly the scientific truth may lie on the spectrum of possibilities, the absurd exaggerations and relentless lies in the MSM give the game away.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  221. anonymous[207] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    Yes. When you learn to behave yourself.

  222. Anonymous[162] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P

    Do you have any evidence of these “short-term deviations to higher CO2 values” during the last 400,000 years by which you attempt to invalidate today’s off-the-chart rises in CH4 and CO2? Or are you just doubling down on your bullshit?

    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    , @Mike P
  223. @Anonymous

    I can recommend reading
    Fred Hoyle, Sir, FRS, ‘Ice: A chilling scientific forecast of a new Ice Age’, 1981, 1982, Sevenoaks
    John G. Lockwood, ‘Causes of Climate’, London 1979.
    Le Roy Ladurie, ‘Histoire du climat depuis l’an mil’, Paris, 1983
    Christian Gerondeau, ‘Le CO2 est bon pour la planete, Climat, la grande manipulation’, Paris 2017
    Brian Fagan, ‘The LITTLE ICE AGE, How climate made history 1300 – 1850′, 2000 New York
    Clive Ponting, ‘A green history of the world’, 1992, London
    Reading these books could make you realise that climate changed all the time, that we know very little about climate, that when CO2 kept the earth warm, 52°C, there was 7000 or even far more ppm CO2 in the atmosphere, and that in the industrial era, say from the first steam engines until now, CO2 ppm rose from 200 to 400, also a quite insignificant rise.
    Gerondeau, on top of all this, shows beyond any doubt that there is NO scientific consensus about the consequences of the rise in CO2 ppm.
    The IPCC suppresses dissident analyses.

    • Agree: Mike P
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  224. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @nickels

    The scope of religion is necessary so small that it provides answers to practically no question of interest. Thus religion very soon jumped the bounds of its own scope of inquiry and started to pontificate on things it could never talk to, like science and actual living on this earth, which religion regarded as evil.

    I welcome the postmodern critique of religion and think it is long overdue. Religion has always been a tool of the powers that be, and the conclusions of science have long supported those with power. Jewsus denounced Gentiles, Jewsus’ followers quickly became Bolshevists supporting the socialist conspiracy, and the basements of churches became Antifa starting points.

    The key is to understand that religion is political like any other discipline, whereas engineering is a true science that proves its conclusions.

    • Replies: @nickels
  225. Mike P says:
    @Anonymous

    No, there is no evidence for or against. My argument is merely that we can’t rule them out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  226. Anonymous[329] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P

    You definitely you do not understand science to the slightest degree. Your statement could easily include “Leprechauns” or “demons” or “magic pixie dust” inserted for the word “them.” You’re invoking pretend to deprecate data you do not want considered.

    I brought real data, you brought Disney fantasy.

    • Agree: james charles
    • Troll: Mike P
  227. Anonymous[631] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra

    You invoke the term “scientific consensus” while commiserating with Mike P’s Disney fantasies about why the actual cold, hard data from the Vostok ice cores can’t be trusted. So, What exactly is this “scientific consensus” of which you speak?

  228. Jason K. says:
    @Rosie

    If you need a place to pedestalize you, try Breitbart and other tradcon sites, at least for the time being. But you’ll be back here before long.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  229. anonymous[505] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jason K.

    She’s not done until everyone praises her for her superior female nature.

  230. nickels says:
    @Anonymous

    You imply symmetry, where there is none.
    Science is a result of religion, not a competitor-its very basis is the assumption of the Logos, the assumption of a rational universe, ordered by God.
    Hence your attempt at art falls flat.

  231. @anarchyst

    “For climate change, there are many scientific organizations that study the climate. These alphabet soup of organizations include NASA, NOAA, JMA, WMO, NSIDC, IPCC, UK Met Office, and others. Click on the names for links to their climate-related sites. There are also climate research organizations associated with universities. These are all legitimate scientific sources.

    If you have to dismiss all of these scientific organizations to reach your opinion, then you are by definition denying the science. If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition. 

    So if you deny all the above scientific organizations there are a lot of un-scientific web sites out there that pretend to be science. Many of these are run by lobbyists (e.g.., Climate Depot, run by a libertarian political lobbyist, CFACT), or supported by lobbyists (e.g., JoannaNova, WUWT, both of whom have received funding and otherwise substantial support by lobbying organizations like the Heartland Institute), or are actually paid by lobbyists to write Op-Eds and other blog posts that intentionally misrepresent the science.”

    https://thedakepage.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/how-to-assess-climate-change.html

  232. anon[628] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Did you address the data? No? It’s real simple:

    Can’t address it?

    i don’t need to – your “scientists” have an agenda, much like the mainstream media, and they’re not on my side

    • Replies: @james charles
  233. @anon

    “For climate change, there are many scientific organizations that study the climate. These alphabet soup of organizations include NASA, NOAA, JMA, WMO, NSIDC, IPCC, UK Met Office, and others. Click on the names for links to their climate-related sites. There are also climate research organizations associated with universities. These are all legitimate scientific sources. . . .

    If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition.”

    • Troll: Mike P
    • Replies: @Sparkon
  234. Sparkon says:
    @james charles

    “…all of the climate scientists around the world”

    Liar.

    It’s already been pointed out to you that belief in man-made global warming is not universal among “all scientists around the world.”

    An international team of scientists have stunned attendees at the UN’s climate change conference in Paris recently by debunking claims that global warming is man-made.

    The scientists say that while the science refutes the UN’s claim that man-made carbon emissions are to blame for global warming, they claim that the UN is pressing ahead with its sinister ‘climate regime’ agenda, which includes: destroying industrial civilization, propping up kleptocrats with Western tax funds, and seizing control of the global economy under the guise of regulating the immensely beneficial “gas of life,” also known as carbon dioxide.

    https://yournewswire.com/paris-stunned-as-scientists-debunk-climate-change-hysteria/

    “a denier by definition”

    Please provide a source for this definition. Let me guess that there isn’t one. You pulled it out of your tailbone.

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @james charles
  235. Mike P says:
    @Sparkon

    Don’t waste your breath on him – he is just copy-pasting sophomoric nonsense cobbled together by someone else. These people are unable to argue their case, all they have is appeals to authority.

    • Replies: @james charles
  236. @Sparkon

    “If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  237. Anonymous[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @james charles

    You keep saying “all” like it’s not a lie. Why?

    • Replies: @james charles
  238. nickels says:

    What priorities will the ruling class’s notion of scientific truth dictate to the next Democratic administration? Because rejecting that true and false, right and wrong are objectively ascertainable is part of this class’s DNA, no corpus of fact or canon of reason restrains it or defines its end-point. Its definition of “science” is neither more nor less than what “scientists say” at any given time. In practice, that means “Science R-Us,” now and always, exclusively. Thus has come to pass what President Dwight Eisenhower warned against in his 1960 Farewell address: “A steadily increasing share [of science] is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.… [T]he free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution…a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity.” Hence, said Ike, “The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present—and is gravely to be regarded.” The result has been that academics rise through government grants while the government exercises power by claiming to act on science’s behalf. If you don’t bow to the authority of the power that says what is and is not so, you are an obscurantist or worse.

    Under our ruling class, “truth” has morphed from the reflection of objective reality to whatever has “normative pull”—i.e., to what furthers the ruling class’s agenda, whatever that might be at any given time. That is the meaning of the term “political correctness,” as opposed to factual correctness.

    https://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/after-the-republic/

  239. FB says:

    This ‘author’ is a fucking idiot…as he continues to prove every time he decides to spew…

    First of all…genetics is not ‘hard’ science in a way that physics is…just look up human genome to learn that the number of genes in the human body continues to be revised downward…

    Look up some articles in the NYT Science Times from say 20 years ago when the Human Genome Project was first getting started…the geneticists were predicting that humans would have 100,000 genes…after a couple of years that expectation was halved…then finally they arrived at about 30,000…and this has been going down ever since to less than 20,000 right now…

    ‘There are an estimated 19,000-20,000 human protein-coding genes.[4] The estimate of the number of human genes has been repeatedly revised down from initial predictions of 100,000 or more as genome sequence quality and gene finding methods have improved, and could continue to drop further.’

    So genetics is in no way an exact science like physics, especially when you start trying to make some kind of link to race, an extremely subjective and interpretative area…and drawing such a comparison shows how painfully stupid this Welton character is…

    Running articles from clowns like this is what is dragging down the Unz website…it’s just plain whacko to intelligent people…

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  240. @Mike P

    “If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition.”

    • Replies: @Mike P
  241. @Anonymous

    Comprehension does not appear to be your strong point?

  242. Mike P says:
    @james charles

    You don’t even rise to level of “troll” – must be one of them Russian bots.

    • Replies: @james charles
  243. Sparkon says:

    Global Warming Petition Project

    31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs

    Petition:

    We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

    There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

    http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php

  244. MBlanc46 says:
    @AaronB

    I think that “winding down” understates the case. When it goes it will more likely be a collapse.

  245. @FB

    I agree, FB. I’ve been trying to point this out from the beginning. Lance Welton’s conception of science is so abysmally stupid that it constitutes a cargo cult. Yet the fact that his missives are possible at all indicates whither the whole concept of genetics and IQ are tending.

  246. Che Guava says:
    @Anonymous

    If you want to be taken half seriously, you may try a consistent pseudonym, or use your real name, anon. posters, other than the artist formerly known as Priss, are generality so boring.

  247. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Serious, inquisitive scientific and historical research may indeed be said to have left the universities – or at least the interesting, important parts thereof.

    For historical, see, e.g., the Holocaust.

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