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Sir Humphrey Appleby, the Machiavellian senior civil servant in the hit 1980s British sitcom Yes, Minister once famously commented that one should “never believe anything until it’s been officially denied.” Which meant we could be fairly confident that racial and ethnic differences in susceptibility to Coronavirus exist, because our race-denying Ruling Class so dogmatical refused to consider the evidence. Now that’s over: a study by a Chinese research group has emerged that offers concrete proof of race differences in susceptibility to Corona virus are very real.

The study—a preprint that has not yet been peer-reviewed—is entitled Single-cell RNA expression profiling of ACE2, the putative receptor of Wuhan 2019-nCov, By Yu Zhao et al., bioRxiv, 2020] and is authored by a group of medical scientists based at Tongji University in Shanghai

The authors explain that “2019-nCov was reported to share the same receptor, Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2)” as the SARS disease, an outbreak of which in 2003 seemed almost exclusively to kill Northeast Asians.

Based on “the public database and the state-of-the-art single-cell RNA-Seq technique” the Chinese scientists “analyzed the ACE2 RNA expression profile in the normal human lungs.” Crucially, they further found (in a comparison of eight individual samples) that the “Asian male one has an extremely large number of ACE2-expressing cells in the lung” in comparison to other races. (The database was based on analysis of eight normal human lung transplant donors of different races.)

As they put it:

We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area.

So, there you have it: scientific evidence of how there are, indeed, genetic differences underling the empirical evidence that I have been presenting for weeks that there are racial differences in susceptibility to the Coronavirus (now widely known as COVID-19).

See:

And this finding comes as more and more people are beginning notice the racial dimension to Corona virus. According to Woke Wisdom—which declares that “race” is only skin deep—the Corona Virus should be ravaging Africa by now. After all, Africa is poor, poor health compromises the immune system, and access to medical care is, for most Africans, extremely limited. Surely, Africa should be worse affected that any other continent in the world—as should black minorities within white countries. But, consistent with the findings of the Chinese scientists, this is not the case:

Whether it’s a matter of faulty detection, climatic factors or simple fluke, the remarkably low rate of coronavirus infection in African countries, with their fragile health systems, continues to puzzle – and worry – experts.

To date, only three cases of infection have been officially recorded in Africa, one in Egypt, one in Algeria and one in Nigeria, with no deaths.

This is a remarkably small number for a continent with nearly 1.3 billion inhabitants, and barely a drop in the ocean of more than 86,000 cases and nearly 3,000 deaths recorded in some 60 countries worldwide.

[With only three official cases, Africa’s low coronavirus rate puzzles health experts, France 24, March 2nd, 2020].

Does this low infection rate worry “experts” precisely because it raises the possibility—which I discussed last week—of blacks having a relatively high immunity due to many of them being adapted to a hot and wet ecology which, like the cold and wet ecology of much of Europe, is high in flu and thus selects for flu resistance?

The report then presents a number of hypotheses. Has there been a lack of travel between China and Africa? No. Could it be to do with the climate? France-24 produced a senior medic to reject this one:

“This hypothesis was rejected by Professor Rodney Adam, who heads the infection control task force at the Aga Khan University Hospital in Nairobi, Kenya. ‘There is no current evidence to indicate that climate affects transmission,’” he said.

Professor Adam also used his interview as an opportunity to cast doubt on the race hypothesis:

While it is true that for certain infections there may be genetic differences in susceptibility…there is no current evidence to that effect for Covid-19.” [Emphasis added, ellipses in original]

It’s not obvious why Professor Adam felt obliged to offer this opinion, since France 24 does not directly raise the race hypothesis.

But note that, significantly, he concedes that “for certain infections there may be genetic differences in susceptibility…” Of course, this is known to everyone in medicine (see: Tay-Sachs Disease; Sickle-Cell Anemia). But for some reason, we’re not allowed to ask about it with COVID-19.

And there is “current evidence.” It has not yet passed “peer-review,” it has not yet been critiqued by other scientists, but there is certainly evidence—beyond the circumstantial—that genetic differences seem to explain race differences in the reaction to the Corona virus.

The African media have noticed the surprising lack of deaths as well. Recently, a series of African news outlets reported that “the African Blood Genes” may permit resistance to Corona. In response, the Nigeria-based Centre for Democracy and Development (a democracy-promoting NGO, not a scientific organization) has asserted on its blog that: “experts have said claims that black people were resistant to the virus were ‘false information.’”

It added:

A UK-based specialist in infectious diseases and epidemics, Paul Hunter, told DW [Africa has been spared so far from coronavirus. Why?, February 14, 2020 ]that the absence of Covid-19 on the continent maybe largely due to luck. There is nothing special about Africa not having seen a case other than pure chance at the moment… “I doubt we will see a big outbreak in Africa, Droplet diseases don’t seem to be as big an issue in Africa,” he said, adding that SARS, a respiratory disease that is also a coronavirus, spread through 26 countries in 2003 but failed to gain a hold in Africa.

From scientific evidence, there is no medical proof that African blood is resistant to the Coronavirus

[Is the African Blood Resistant to Coronavirus? CDD West Africa, February 17, 2020].

Perhaps not. But there is now scientific evidence that Africans (and Whites) are more resistant to it than Asians and that this is for genetic reasons.

Lance Welton [email him] is the pen name of a freelance journalist living in New York.

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  1. So what’s up with the deaths in Iran? Are Persians not closer to Europeans genetically than East Asians?

  2. It’s official that Lance Welton is a brainless bot designed to generate HBD spoof stories after skimming the web for news and data.

    • Agree: utu, Daniel Chieh
    • Troll: Tom Welsh, Alfred
    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    , @OverCommenter
  3. Well I had a direct testimony of a white, European stock male dying out of it 2 weeks ago.
    He caught the thing in Spain.
    I checked the telling women (of his family) that the victim indeed wasn’t Asian in any kind.
    So from then on… I’m reading this sort of article with some distance…

  4. anon[309] • Disclaimer says:

    Iran also had a colossal death rate from the Spanish Flu some say between 900,000 and 2.4 million which possibly also originated in China and was spread by 100,000+ coolie laborers imported thru Canada to Europe. http://razi.ams.ac.ir/AIM/010133/0018.htm

    • Replies: @KlcTan
    , @TT
  5. Anonymous[248] • Disclaimer says:

    South Korea and Italy have the most official cases so far after China, although they’ve also been testing the most.

    Italy has the second oldest population in the world. The median age of deaths there from the coronavirus has been 81.

    Probably no population is totally immune, and the elderly with underlying conditions may be vulnerable everywhere. But Asians overall and at earlier ages may be more vulnerable than other groups.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/486024-trump-administration-issues-new-guidance-for-nursing-homes-to-combat

    Deborah Birx, who is coordinating the White House response to the coronavirus, told reporters that data from Italy and South Korea has underscored that seniors are most susceptible to the virus. The median age of those infected in Italy is 60, while the median age of those who have died there is 81, she said.

    • Agree: Peter Frost
    • Replies: @Marko
  6. note that, significantly, he concedes that “for certain infections there may be genetic differences in susceptibility…” Of course, this is known to everyone in medicine (see: Tay-Sachs Disease; Sickle-Cell Anemia).

    Tay-Sachs and Sickle-Cell Anemia are genetic diseases, not “infections.”

    As for climate not being an issue, hot climates and weather are hostile to coronaviruses (30C = 86F).

    “at moderate temperatures of 20-30°C, there was a long survival time, but only when the air was dry. Very high temperatures (>30°C) render the coronaviruses inactive”

    https://facilityexecutive.com/2020/02/indoor-humidification-can-reduce-coronavirus-transmission/

    • Thanks: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  7. Hail says: • Website

    The study—a preprint that has not yet been peer-reviewed—is entitled Single-cell RNA expression profiling of ACE2, the putative receptor of Wuhan 2019-nCov, By Yu Zhao et al., bioRxiv, 2020

    Sample size of n=1 East Asian person; but the link to the article also says:

    Posted January 26, 2020.

    — which is quite a while ago in this virus’ terms. What is new here?

    Lance Welton has been writing variants of the same article at a rate of one a week since Feb. 1, and an at-a-glance review of the dates and headlines is kind of funny:

    [MORE]

    Do You Know All Coronavirus Victims Appear to be Chinese? Thought Not
    LANCE WELTON • FEBRUARY 1, 2020 • 1,200 WORDS • 55 COMMENTS

    STILL No Non-Chinese Deaths from Coronavirus, But the WASHINGTON POST Wants You to Rat Out Your Neighbors Anyway
    LANCE WELTON • FEBRUARY 8, 2020 • 1,300 WORDS • 175 COMMENTS

    STILL No Non-East Asian Deaths from Corona—But CNN’s Sanjay Gupta Won’t Admit It
    LANCE WELTON • FEBRUARY 15, 2020 • 1,200 WORDS • 321 COMMENTS

    Coronavirus STILL Hasn’t Killed Any Whites (Not Counting Iranians). NEW YORK TIMES Ignores, But Concedes Gender Difference. Why?
    LANCE WELTON • FEBRUARY 20, 2020 • 1,400 WORDS • 31 COMMENTS

    Coronavirus Still Discriminating—Reaches Italy, But Italians Also Vulnerable In 1918 Pandemic
    LANCE WELTON • FEBRUARY 27, 2020

    This is thinly skating the outer-rings of the satire zone, isn’t it?

    • Agree: Tor597
  8. If we say create some index for the chances of how easy it would be for the coronavirus to infect different people:
    White people: 1
    East Asia: 5
    Not sure if it’s the same death rate for different people who already caught the same virus.
    Not sure whether it’s exactly the same virus in Iran and China since the virus evolve. Some messages says it’s different.

    Chinese experience showed higher death rate in Wuhan than other provinces at the beginning(medical system breakdown), then it dropped(medical system back to live by support from other provinces), yet still higher.
    This could explain the current Iran death rate: medical system is not in good function, yet.

    There are also studies (though with limited data cases involved for current study), found that this coronavirus has 3 generations, 5 groups. While China has only find generation 2&3, and 3 groups; while America has all 3 generations and all 5 groups.

    President Xi has instructed the Chinese scientists to focus on the vaccine research, and the origin study of this virus.
    We will find the route course. Not matter how you smear us.

  9. Tor597 says:
    @Just passing through

    The virus in Iran is likely modified to target Persians.

    This way the Anglo-Zionists eliminate their 2 biggest competitors going forward.

  10. Gizmo880 says:

    One day Captain Trips will be unleashed for real on the world by the Deep State. This is just a mild test run.

    • Agree: Tom Welsh
  11. 92 deaths in Iran and 107 deaths in Italy. It sounds like it can kill non-North East Asians just fine.

    • Replies: @Tom Welsh
    , @Krixxx
  12. Alfred says:
    @Just passing through

    Are Persians not closer to Europeans genetically than East Asians?

    An excellent question. I suspect there is another version that was especially made by those who are fondest of the Persians.

    Iran is a multiethnic society. It would be interesting to know whether it is targeting sub-populations.

    Are the Uyghurs immune to the Chinese version?

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
  13. One worrisome aspect of genetically picky viruses is the potential for militarily engineered viruses unleashed by one race on another. When I was a kid and contemplated such things, I was comforted by the thought that–somewhere–our people were on it in some kind of super-secret lab that operated independently of fickle things like elections. I couldn’t imagine “our people” using such a weapon offensively, but, defensively, our people would always be way ahead of any threat. I assumed.

    Today, I believe, if there is such a lab, Mossad has more influence there than I do, that half the scientists are Chinese-American, and that, if the director of the lab were handed proof of a new virus engineered to target whites, there would be an eighty percent chance we would be left defenseless–one hundred percent if the director were white.

    The old game of survival-of-the-fittest didn’t end just because the hippies threw a fit, kicked over the board, and cost us the game.

    • Agree: Pheasant
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  14. Hail says: • Website

    The ACE2 theory has come up regularly in the Steve Sailer blog comment-section in the past weeks, but of course no one seems to really know what’s going on.

    I’d like to repost a few of the more useful recent ACE2 Theory-related back-and-forths from there from early March. For reference/interest on this topic. (Below “[MORE].”)

    I also found a case of a Western medical doctor/expert mentioning the ACE2 theory, the first I’ve seen. (Click [MORE] and ctrl-f for “Understanding COVID19” for that):

    [MORE]

    The first set of comments are extracted from the discussion thread “Super Tuesday and/or Virus Tuesday” (March 3, 2020):

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/super-tuesday-and-or-virus-tuesday/#comment-3750785

    Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:
    March 4, 2020 at 6:21 am GMT • 200 Words

    Why aren’t schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad?

    This strange virus does not target children. Schools are not such a priority.

    Otherwise Wuhan is not Washington on so many levels. This virus attacks the lungs and frankly Wuhan China in winter was maybe the most favorable location on earth for maximum impact.

    Yes there was a catastrophe at the Washington critical care home. Very sad but not representative of the epidemic.

    Some Americans are going to get very sick but don’t expect a mass die off in the USA.

    Mass die off occurred in a very dense population of heavy smoking East Asians (unusual ACE2 cell receptor lung biology) living in the world’s worst air pollution along with poor medical hygiene conditions.

    Hail says: • Website
    March 4, 2020 at 6:37 am GMT • 100 Words
    @Anonymous

    ACE2

    We’re approaching one month (AFAIK) since this theory started to circulate.

    I’ve tried looking into, looking for serious research it. Found a few Chinese medical researchers publishing on the theory, some for and some against.

    From Western scholars, nothing.

    In the West perhaps we can say there are indirect allusions to the ACE2 hypothesis embedded in the “Don’t discriminate against East Asians! Don’t pass on racist fake news about COVID19!” type of PSAs we are sometimes blasted with.

    When will the ACE2 Truther Movement begin?

    Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    March 4, 2020 at 7:46 am GMT • 200 Words
    @Hail

    Unfortunately, it hasn’t occurred to anyone until the last month or so that there needs to be more research on ACE 2 receptors. We still don’t know anywhere near enough about the effect of viruses on them.

    ACE 2 (the enzyme that is aimed at the ACE 2 receptor), appears to be something that is necessary for your heart and kidney function. There are ACE 2 receptors in the heart and kidneys. My suspicion is that some patients experience a tag-team effect with 2 viruses, Covid-19 and a common respiratory virus. The common virus gives the patient some lung damage via pneumonia or bronchitis, and Covid-19 takes advantage of this opening to penetrate to the heart along the oxygenated blood path that is being sent from the lungs to the heart muscle. Once Covid-19 attacks the ACE 2 receptors in the heart, it may stop the heart from beating. This may be what we’re seeing when people just collapse dead in the street. We know that people with heart conditions tend not to do well when they get Covid-19. This is only a theory, though.

    Anonymous[215]
    March 4, 2020 at 6:26 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Re ACE2 truther movement:

    There is a complete total hardcore lockdown embargo of ANY racial aspect of this contagion.

    If you’re a mainstream media photo editor and you put up an Asian face on any news story about infections outside of Asia then your ass is grass apparently.

    Discussion of East Asian diaspora causing the outbreaks globally will only percolate on the Internet’s deplorable media outlets like unz.com

    Hail says: • Website
    March 4, 2020 at 5:04 pm GMT • 100 Words
    @Anon

    Some of the SNPs of ACE2 come in gene variants of A or G. (Others C or T.) I am now seeing someone with claimed expertise claim the GG genotype is most at risk from the Wuhan virus.

    40% of East Asians are GG
    but only 15% of White Europeans
    and only 5% of Black Africans

    From “Understanding COVID19,” by Howard Wetsman MD (Feb 29, 2020)

    And that is the only Western scholar mentioning the ACE2 theory, and seemingly cautiously endorsing, I have seen so far.

    ______________

    Here is more discussion, and references to more unpublished Chinese scholarship on ACE2 from February, taken from thread “Dr. Aylward on the Need to Slow Transmission” (Feb. 29, 2020)

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/dr-aylward-on-the-epidemic/#comment-3744745

    Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    March 1, 2020 at 12:00 am GMT • 100 Words
    The ACE2 issue is driving this train. But there is a massive media coverup going on. And big surprise it’s blowing up in their face.

    Each day that passes without catastrophe bizarrely makes Trump look like a hero.

    Weeks go by and the numbers mysteriously do not explode across the fruited plain. Meanwhile the media is screaming “Wuhan nightmare is coming to your hometown!” Real soon now.

    In the USA all efforts should be concentrated where East Asian genetics are clustered.

    So Hawaii, Bay Area, pockets of LA, Houston, NYC etc.

    Hopefully this is being done behind the scenes. [….]

    reiner Tor says:
    March 1, 2020 at 3:31 am GMT • 200 Words
    @Anonymous

    The ACE2 thing is poorly understood even by the few specialists who study it in depth, but enthusiastic HBD commenters will keep jumping on it and build castles of air based on it.

    ______________

    Steve Sailer says:
    March 1, 2020 at 12:18 am GMT
    @Anonymous
    And what if the ACE2 theory doesn’t work out?

    Lot says:
    March 1, 2020 at 12:35 am GMT
    @Steve Sailer

    It already has been disproved in its strong version. Italy is at 1100 confirmed cases and France hit 100 today.

    Bert says:
    March 1, 2020 at 3:25 pm GMT • 200 Words

    @Lot
    The strong version is also suspect because of the illogic of inferring resistance to infection based on Non-East-Asian populations having lower frequencies of alleles associated with high ACE2. The genetic processes of recombination will ensure that a fraction of the Non-East-Asian population will have ACE2 genotypes equivalent to those of East-Asians, and this fraction will presumably be as susceptible to infection as East-Asians are.

    If ACE2 is important for infection, the crucial question is whether the fraction of Non-East-Asians with genotypes like East-Asians is small enough to reduce the R0 to a level at which contact tracing and selective quarantine are enough to stop the epidemic. If not, then the Chinese-style lockdown would be required.

    The outcome depends on quantitative measures that are as yet unknown, but to call the epidemic a media hoax is not responsible at this point because it undermines public cooperation that may well be needed.

    Agree: Lot

    _______________

    Lugash says:
    March 1, 2020 at 2:56 am GMT
    @Coemgen

    We won’t see [a strenuous effort at reduction of transmission] until a sacred group starts getting gored. If blacks are affected more by nCoV or HIV+ then we’ll see action. Possibly if ACE2 is real Asian-Americans will demand a shutdown, but they’ll want exemptions for relatives, legal and otherwise, that it won’t make any difference.

    Hail says:
    March 1, 2020 at 3:32 am GMT • 200 Words
    @Lugash

    Possibly if ACE2 is real Asian-Americans will demand a shutdown

    Chinese scholars appear to be publishing on this actively, but no Western ones are, unless you count amateurs such as some Unz Review-type authors.

    A team whose lead author is Yanan Cao is arguing in favor the ACE2 theory that was popularized at Peak Prosperity in mid-February.

    But there are those against it; from a Feb. 18 paper whose lead author is Ying Chen:

    “Asians show a similar ACE2 expression to other races. Furthermore, the frequencies of ACE2 alleles in Asians are not significantly deviated from those in other races. These observations indicate that individuals of all races need the same level of personal protection againstSARS-CoV-2.”

    Details on the Ying Chen paper:

    “Asians and other races express similar levels of and share the same genetic polymorphisms of the SARS-CoV-2 cell-entry receptor”

    Ying Chen1,2, Kejia Shan1,2,3, and Wenfeng Qian1,2,,3*

    1 State Key Laboratory of Plant Genomics, Institute of Genetics and Developmental Biology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100101, China | 2 Key Laboratory of Genetic Network Biology, Institute of Genetics and Developmental Biology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100101, China | 3 University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100049, China

    “Not Peer Reviewed.” Preprint [link to pdf]. Posted Feb. 18, 2020.

    Lot says:
    March 1, 2020 at 4:44 am GMT • 100 Words
    @Hail

    I looked at a dozen or so preprints on CV today. Most were Chinese authors and in broken English, and some were full of that trademark dopey-Orwellian propaganda that survived the transition from Maoism to authoritarian capitalism unscathed.

    “With care and strong work Chinese people will defeat COVID19 in March with our science projection statistics.”

    https://www.medrxiv.org/search/Wuhan%20numresults%3A10%20sort%3Apublication-date%20direction%3Adescending?page=2

  15. @Just passing through

    Ask the (((scientists))) who created this virus as a bio-weapon against China for economical reasons and as a bio-weapon against Iran for military reasons. Notice also that many of the infected in Iran “happen to be” members of the Iranian Parliament (8% of them have been infected thus far). Remember that Mossad agents managed to murder several Iranian nuclear scientists before. They know how to operate in a hostile country.

    On top of that, the Israelis have announced they will soon have developed a vaccine against the virus. They will then sell it to the whole world. That will allow them to introduce by stealth micro-chips into the blood of the hated goyim in order to control them and make a handsome profit at the same time. In Israel of course the vaccine will be used without a chip (but only for its Jewish citizens and not for the Palestinians). “God’s Chosen People” indeed!

  16. Yeufnxjhd says:

    So good to know the ~100 deaths in Italy are all visiting Asians. (Irony of course…)

  17. Sasha says:
    @Just passing through

    On the surface it would appear to be so, but books… covers… As far as I know, here in Canada the 30 or so positives are almost all people who have traveled to Iran, so I’m assuming Persian. The Iranian Chief of Civil Defence (General Gholam Reza Jalali) outright described it as a bioweapon targeting Iran and China. The strange thing is, this explosive statement that appeared on Fars (Iranian news agency, pretty official) received absolutely zero coverage in the Western media, and if you do a search for his name and then select “news”, the only results that appear are Iranian agencies. You’d think the Western media would be all over that as an example of more Iranian craziness, but instead a blackout.
    ps – Times of Israel is also reporting that now

  18. It’s racist to acknowledge that there are races, and citing that there are no African deaths means that you are racist for noting this fact and thinking this thought, because your pursuit of differences in how races are affected by the virus means that you are deliberately trying to prove that other races exist, which is itself racist, since race is a social construct and doesn’t exist in individuals, but instead is inherent only within social structures such as white privilege, but now also you individually are being racist, which is a personalization of race and racism, and outside of any institutions or institutional racism, but that is racist too, and you are a racist, because your personal thoughts are racist, since they keep coming back to differences within humanity that have no basis in science, even though the latest Chinese study indicates that “asian-ness” corresponds to viral susceptibility, but that study is racist for trying to group humanity into racial categories, therefore science is racist, but the Chinese are not being racist, because they are unwittingly adopting their erroneous racial stance from the white scientific patriarchy which has always been racist, such that these Chinese must be enlightened as to being naive purveyors of racist ideology, and then and then and then…..

    Do I have all that right, or did I miss something ???

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  19. @Just passing through

    There’s a set of conjectures going round that the Corona is part real, part hoax, actually a variety of distinct variations of a viral family going around, and that this is being used as psy-op partly, but also that targeted assassinations are taking place with more deadly variations. E.g. the Iranian victims seem to be disproportionally very-important-people high up in the government. Rumor has it a lot of fairly important people were killed in China, and that retaliations are ongoing presently; there is presently a major and bloody clandestine war in progress, in addition to all the information and financial warfare that’s been escalating for the last few years. It’s all rumors gleaned from comments, so it could be a fairy tale, but it is actually the most plausible likely thing I can think of that would be going on right now, given what we’ve seen, but also what we’ve not seen. Could be someone’s best guess framed as a fairy tale, and yet could be correct by accident or just solid intuition. Who knows, fog of war and all that.
    Check out comment by “Tired”:
    http://thesaker.is/turkish-forces-are-on-tactical-retreat-syrian-army-recaptures-more-territory-in-eastern-and-southern-idlib/#comments

  20. OK, Welton’s stance was at least defensible as speculation at one point, but now he’s gone off the deep end. He’s reflexively doubling down on an emotionally-based conviction out of a combination of sheer ignorance, blind stubbornness, availability bias, anchoring bias, and confirmation bias. See also premature diagnostic closure.

    And this is simply pathetic:

    The study—a preprint that has not yet been peer-reviewed—is entitled Single-cell RNA expression profiling of ACE2, the putative receptor of Wuhan 2019-nCov, By Yu Zhao et al., bioRxiv, 2020] and is authored by a group of medical scientists based at Tongji University in Shanghai

    So, there you have it: “scientific evidence” of how there are, indeed…

    People who will seize onto any sort of “evidence,” no matter how flimsy, to back their pet hypothesis — see “confirmation bias” above.

    Welton is just discovering this study now? People have been blabbering about this as “proof” of their favorite coronavirus ideas for the past 5+ weeks.

    What Lance fails to understand is that:

    – This study was based on a whopping 8 patients, only one of whom was Asian.
    – They also found a marked sex difference in ACE2 expression between their 2 male subjects and the others.
    – You can’t validly conclude anything about putative racial differences in ACE2 expression (let alone racial differences in SARS-CoV-2 susceptibility) based on a “study” of 1 Asian.

    Here’s a much larger study (also a preprint), using a different methodology, that showed no difference in ACE2 expression by race (but considerable difference by smoking status).

    In this study, we analyzed four large-scale datasets of normal lung tissue to investigate the disparities related to race, age, gender and smoking status in ACE2 gene expression. No significant disparities in ACE2 gene expression were found between racial groups (Asian vs Caucasian), age groups (>60 vs <60) or gender groups (male vs female). However, we observed significantly higher ACE2 gene expression in smoker samples compared to non-smoker samples.

    Not to mention that ACE2 expression is hardly the only potential mechanism for this putative racial difference in susceptibility — HLA antigens, anyone?

    Guess these must all be Chinese people in Italy — and Germany, and France, and Spain…

    [note that y-axis is log scale, not linear]

    But at least COVID-19 patients in Europe aren’t getting really sick from it? COVID-19 ICU patients in Italy through 3/4 — if they don’t run out of Chinese Italians pretty soon, they’re gonna fill up all of their ICU beds (about 5000 in the whole country):

    [107 deaths so far in Italy]

    Welton is on more solid ground in pointing out that few Negroes seem to have acquired the disease so far. But any speculation as to why is just that — speculation.

    Of course, his larger point that ignorant, hate-filled race denialism prevents any intelligent examination of potential racial differences in susceptibility to various pathogens is a valid one, but Welton is undermining his own “argument” by spewing such incoherent, ill-informed gibberish.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Thanks: Just passing through
  21. Naill says:
    @Just passing through

    Another article has been published by Global Research.
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196

    Japanese and Taiwanese scientists claim that the source of the virus is USA.

    So what’s up with the deaths in Iran?

    The interesting explanation from the same article is that the Iran strain is different and more deadly.

  22. @Just passing through

    Persians are generally closer to Europeans, however, I would imagine this is impacting the Persians that have strong Turkic-Mongolian ancestory which is significant in certain northern areas of Iran.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  23. Over 100 dead in Italy from Coronavirus already.

    • Replies: @KA
  24. 22pp22 says:

    Lance, give it up.

  25. polistra says:

    The lack of cases in Africa can’t be just “luck”. There are LOTS of Chinese immigrants in East Africa who have been there for a long time, and there’s LOTS of Chinese economic activity in all of Africa, involving LOTS of travel by Chinese managers and trainers. Plenty of chances for contact, and still very little transmission.

    Note also the Mexican scientific response. AMLO had his equivalent of CDC director in a press conference to discuss the flu, and the director said that there’s a low risk of transmission in Mexico. He’s clearly not afraid to state the facts, and he describes our panic as Security Theater.

    https://lopezobrador.org.mx/2020/03/02/resiste-peso-al-coronavirus-presidente-amlo-autoridades-llaman-a-la-no-discriminacion-y-a-evitar-compras-de-panico/

  26. rmunch says: • Website

    we have heard this before, ethics developing weapons to target other ethnics.

    https://www.wired.com/1998/11/israels-ethnic-weapon/

  27. @Monotonous Languor

    “…Do I have all that right, or did I miss something..???”

    You are racist for making fun of racism.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Dave Bowman
  28. Tom Welsh says:

    ‘Sir Humphrey Appleby, the Machiavellian senior civil servant in the hit 1980s British sitcom Yes, Minister once famously commented that one should “never believe anything until it’s been officially denied.”’

    That famous remark goes back at least to the 1950s, when Claud Cockburn mentioned often having heard it.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Claud_Cockburn

  29. Tom Welsh says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Intelligent Dasein’s comment bears the hallmarks of a troll. It is generic, makes no mention of the article’s topic or arguments, claims to be “official” and is gratingly rude.

    It could easily have been submitted by a computer program that scans sites for particular authors and then maligns them.

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Troll: JohnPlywood
  30. Spanky says:
    @polistra

    Is there widespread testing in Africa either generally (continent wide) or specifically by country?

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  31. anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says:

    To maintain some credibility on this website. I don’t think Lance Welton should be allowed to publish further columns until he displays some contrition for the junk column “STILL No Non-East Asian Deaths From Corona—But CNN’s Sanjay Gupta Won’t Admit It”.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  32. Ron Unz says:
    @Hail

    Lance Welton has been writing variants of the same article at a rate of one a week since Feb. 1, and an at-a-glance review of the dates and headlines is kind of funny:

    * * *

    The ACE2 theory has come up regularly in the Steve Sailer blog comment-section in the past weeks, but of course no one seems to really know what’s going on.

    Yes, I tend to agree that the ACE2 theory has been circulating for weeks so this article doesn’t really break any new ground. Obviously, the racial focus claims are much weaker and thinner than they were back a month ago. Frankly, I don’t regard this piece as all that good.

    But since the MSM has been totally prohibiting any such discussion or analysis, it’s hard to really be sure about these matters. So to the extent that this sort of article gains traction, it puts some pressure on the MSM to respond, and perhaps clarify the picture of who has died or become seriously ill in Western countries.

    On a related issue, I’d be very curious to know whether the version of the Coronavirus that has hit Iran (and especially its political elites) so hard is genetically identical to the one that originally hit China, and later spread to South Korea and Japan.

    If the virus is identical, that would seem to rule out the special vulnerability of East Asians. If the Iranian virus is significantly different…well, that raises “interesting” issues of its own, especially since Iran was hit so soon after China.

    Again, I certainly don’t know these things, and I’m not sure whether anyone else does either. But a “provocative” article like this is sometimes a useful means of bringing in information from people who have been following the issue much more closely.

  33. Tom Welsh says:
    @Tor597

    If that hypothesis is true, they must be frustrated that Russians are so genetically diverse that even the Pentagon’s mass collection of genetic material may not have enabled the creation of a specific Russian-killer virus.

    Yet.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/collecting-russian-dna-confronting-the-threat-of-ethnic-specific-bioweapons/5620863

    https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-biological-warfare-accusations-raise-eyebrows-lawsuit/28834069.html

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201711011058712235-pentagon-explains-russian-biomaterial-collection/

    • Replies: @Tor597
  34. @Hail

    Thank you button doesn’t work – so – thanks Hail, this is quite useful! – (I’ve already posted one of your ACE2-comments in a German discussion).

  35. Bert says:
    @Ron Unz

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/04/chinese-researchers-say-2-types-of-coronavirus-could-be-infecting-people/

    NY Post story on the appearence of a derived strain (L) of Covid-19 in China from the original S strain. The L strain is more virulent and spreads more readily, which follows the expectations of the theory of evolution of pathogen virulence. As the Chinese lockdown made transmission more difficult, the L strain became less common, again an expectation of evolutionary theory. In places, like Iran and the United States, with organizational capabilities lower than those of China, expect the L strain to spread and to give rise to an even more virulent strain, as per evolutionary logic.

    Regarding the utility of Welton’s campaign of disinformation, to the extent that it fosters a meme of “What me worry,” it is harmful. There are higher considerations than flushing the MSM from the bushes. Everyone in the U.S. has the ability to make decisions that are Life versus Death for another person. If a person leaves quarantine and infects others, that is immoral. If one fosters a meme that encourages complacency that causes people to be infected, that is immoral.

  36. Tom Welsh says:
    @Traveler 3468

    We would have to know the genetic makeup of the victims to be sure. People of Chinese descent can be found living all over the world.

    Odd coincidence, isn’t it, that we don’t know because political correctness has (just recently) decreed that we are not allowed to mention people’s “ethnicity”?

    • Agree: Nuncle
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @TT
  37. wut says:

    > only Asian donor

    A sample size of one means nada. c’mon.

  38. @James Forrestal

    Lance Welton is like one of those SJWs who see the world through only one lense and attempt to shoehorn their ideological worldview into everything.

    The goalposts have been slowly shifting in his articles, first it was ‘No non East Asian infected’, then people of other races started coming in with the infection. It then moved on to ‘Still no non East Asian deaths’, so when reports of deaths in Iran started coming in, Welton shifted the goalposts to ‘Still no non-white deaths’.

    Now he cites a very old study that hasn’t been peer reviewed with a small sample size to make it seem like a groundbreaking discovery has been made.

    Lance Welton is a hack writer.

  39. @A.R.

    Does Italy have a large Chinese population? Like in Bruce Lee’s “Way of the Dragon” (the one where he kicked Derbyshire’s ass)?

    • Replies: @Marko
  40. Quintus says:
    @Tor597

    That’s exactly what I was thinking. The fatality rate in Iran for coronavirus is higher than anywhere else:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196

    How convenient! Israel’s arch-enemy! And China, the US arch-competitor. It’s just too obvious and not very smart on the part of the perpetrators because the pattern reveals who is likely culpable.

  41. Thomasina says:

    While watching a BBC interview of a quarantined female pharmacist in northern Italy, the video ran clips in the background of the tourist sites in Italy. All you could see were a sea of Chinese tourists – everywhere. This might explain how the virus got a foothold in Italy, from Chinese tourists who left China already ill or still asymptomatic. If you’ve worked hard to save up for your trip, but you’re starting to feel a little ill, you’re probably still going to go.

    And let’s not forget about the huge amount of dual-passport Chinese people living all over the world. I’m amazed there’s anybody left in China! There are tons of Chinese citizens living in France, U.K., Spain, Canada, U.S., Africa, etc. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the people getting hit with this in Italy are actually Chinese. Are the cases in Africa dual-passport Chinese?

    It may turn out that this disease fits into the Asian DNA more easily, but elderly non-Asians with weak immune systems will get hit hard too.

    Of course, we’re not allowed to know this information because as the WHO stated, this might stigmatize particular groups of people.

    Good article. Keep asking the hard questions.

    • Replies: @Pheasant
    , @Jeremygg5
  42. Tucker says:
    @l'Omnivore Sobriquet

    The older I get, the more cynical and red pilled I seem to also get.

    I have a suspicion that perhaps all of this recent speculation that this coronavirus is most fatal only to people of Asian descent could be a deliberate attempt to c0nvince White Europeans to not take this virus seriously, and as a result, not take extra precautions to reduce their chances of being exposed to it.

    I agree with the comment by ‘just passing through’. Iranians do share significant genetic similarities with White Europeans. And, coincidentally, I see that 23 of the top parliamentary people inside the Iranian government are reported to have tested positive for coronavirus?

    I also read where one of the closest advisors to their top leader has even died from this coronavirus.

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n6p24_Weber.html

    Israel is Developing ‘Ethnic Bomb’ for Growing Biological Weapons Arsenal
    Mark Weber

    “Israel is working on an “ethnically targeted” biological weapon that would kill or harm Arabs but not Jews, according to Israeli military and western intelligence sources cited in a front-page report in the London Sunday Times, November 15, 1998 (“Israel Planning ‘Ethnic’ Bomb as Saddam Caves In,” by Uzi Mahnaimi and Marie Colvin).”

    From The Journal of Historical Review, Nov. – Dec. 1998 (Vol. 17, No. 6), pages 24-25.

  43. BuelahMan says:

    James Corbett produced a video where he cannot find any proof that blood tests are used to diagnose people. They are using CT scans and identifying “ground glass” looking phenomena in the lungs.

    No identifying blood tests are used.

    Am I one of the few that disbelieves this entire meme?

    This is identical to the swine flu scare which wasn’t even a flu after test results began coming back. So they stopped testing and continued the lie.

    You really should watch this one.

    https://www.corbettreport.com/lies-damned-lies-and-coronavirus-infection-numbers-propagandawatch/

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  44. gotmituns says:

    I new it, its’ becaws of the slanty eyes ov thechinks.

  45. Of course there are different races. Just look at the chinaman’s eyes. Do they they look like the eyes of a white man? Look at the lips of a black man. Do they look like they belong to a white man? I don’t think so!

  46. @Ron Unz

    There’s a British doctor on youtube that has been putting out unemotional (as you’d expect), fact-based analysis every single day . The last couple of videos he has explained there are two forms of the virus, (S and L, I think?), and that the one in Iran is different than the one in China, having some mutation/evolution. If this is the case and the two areas were hit almost simultaneously (perhaps ruling out natural mutation), I would be more inclined to believe the virus was utilized, in two different forms, to target a population. The folks that died in Italy are very old, and may be considered collateral damage, as would anyone else outside the central ethnicity/races targeted.

    How it plays out in the Western nations will tell us a lot more.

  47. KA says:

    Only way to prove if Africans are resistant to this,is to to have data. Data isn’t there.
    How many Africans live in China and what’s the rate of infection or mortality.
    How many infected Chinese – asymptomatic and symptomatic ,have been in Africa lately ?
    How many Africans exposed to these Chinese been affected?
    What’s the rate of afflictions among Afro Americans?

    Another question is what the evolutionary advantage for the Chinese ,of the susceptibility to this virus ?

    Iranian scene is the result of sanctions ,,lack of resources and religious zeal.

  48. KA says:
    @Jon Halpenny

    There have been DNA mixing in southern Italy ,mixing between China and Italians in Middle Ages .
    Iran has similar mixing from Mongol invasion.

    I am not supporting any racial basis. But if it turned to be specific to Chinese DNA thing, then above tidbit of history might have some relevance .

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    , @dogbumbreath
  49. @Franklin Ryckaert

    “the Israelis have announced they will soon have developed a vaccine against the virus. They will then sell it to the whole world. That will allow them to introduce by stealth micro-chips into the blood of the hated goyim in order to control them and make a handsome profit at the same time. In Israel of course the vaccine will be used without a chip (but only for its Jewish citizens and not for the Palestinians). “God’s Chosen People” indeed!”

    Five years ago I’d have said you were paranoid. Now I say you’re prescient.

    • Agree: annamaria
  50. Mrek says:
    @Ron Unz

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8073543/amp/TWO-strains-killer-coronavirus-spreading-study-claims.html

    I believe this article sheds some light on the genetic differentiation of Covid-19. In the initial and ongoing outbreak is a much more aggressive strain which spreads quickly and has a higher death rate, but will also peter out faster. This strain (‘L’) is 70% of all cases but is starting to level off in favor of the milder mutation called ‘’S’.

  51. Now, now… Chinese scientists, everyone knows race is just a social construct. As is gender. Get with the times. Plus your theory doesn’t explain what is going on in Iran or Italy. I have a non science theory base on all the independent “conspiracy” sites, and it is one worded. Mossad. It is utterly amazing how many biolabs have Israeli ties. It is also amazing how Epstein links to MIT”s lab and Bill Gates’ eugenics program is swept under the table. But hey this is all conjecture on my part, blame the joke of the trade war and its basis in the insane 5G . By the way where was 5G invented?

    • Agree: Sam J.
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  52. @Tom Welsh

    If you click on the commenter’s name it will list their recent comments. Had you read a few of ID ‘s comments you prolly wouldn’t have made yours. But maybe you did. Who knows.

  53. Peter Frost says: • Website
    @Hail

    To date, there have been three studies on the Wuhan coronavirus in relation to ethnicity. Only one of them has passed peer review, so some caution is in order:

    Zhao et al. (2020)

    This is the study that most people talk about. The authors found that the ACE2 receptor is concentrated in certain cells and that the number of such cells in lung tissue was five times greater in the Asian donor. There was only one Asian donor in the entire sample, and no further description is provided on this “Asian.” However, the chances are low that the same normal distribution would produce such an extreme outlier.

    Cai (2020)

    This study failed to find significant differences in ACE2 receptor gene expression between Asian and Caucasian lung tissue, but it did find an interaction between smoking history and ethnicity. ACE2 was most actively expressed in former Asian smokers but not in Caucasian current smokers and African American non-smokers. However, the difference wasn’t significant.

    This study had an adequate sample size (n=345) but used a questionable classification by ethnicity. The lung tissue samples were from a U.S. company, which classifies its samples as “Caucasian,” “African American,” or “Asian.” Although most Asian Americans are of East Asian descent, many have roots in Southeast Asia or South Asia. As we will see, there are probably significant differences in the ACE2 receptor even between Asian groups.

    Cao et al (2020).

    To date this is the only peer-reviewed study. The authors looked at the different alleles at the ACE2 receptor gene in two databases. They found large differences in allele frequencies among human populations, not only between Asians and other human groups but also between different Asian groups.

    Without knowing what these alleles actually do, we can only say that the ACE2 receptor has coevolved differently with different human populations and, presumably, with different natural and social environments.

    There are earlier studies. Cheng et al. (2007) looked at other receptors for viral infections and found differences between Chinese and other human populations. In the specific case of pulmonary diseases, Seitz et al. (2012) studied the prevalence of bronchiectasis in the United States and found a prevalence 2.5 to 3.9 times higher among Asian Americans than among Euro Americans or African Americans. Kwak et al. (2010) likewise found a high prevalence of bronchiectasis in Korean adults.

    It looks like some human populations, notably Chinese, have coevolved with coronaviruses (which are normally mild in their effects), possibly as a means to boost resistance in lung tissue to more serious pulmonary infections, like pneumonic plague and tuberculosis.

    Keep in mind that nobody is totally immune to any coronavirus, no matter how mild it may be. The Wuhan coronavirus is going to kill people in all human populations, especially among the elderly. However, the effects will vary from one population to another. In particular, it should be most deadly in human populations that have a long history of crowded urban environments, like China and perhaps also northern India and the Fertile Crescent of the Middle East.

    The above studies are referenced in my latest post: http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2020/03/coevolution-with-plague.html

    • Thanks: JohnPlywood, Hail
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  54. So when did “difference” equal “superiority”?

    You should be on a soap box in a park, well away from the street, not on the internet!

  55. KlcTan says:
    @anon

    There have been claims that the epidemic originated in the United States. Historian Alfred W. Crosby claimed that the flu originated in Kansas,[23] and popular author John Barry described Haskell County, Kansas, as the point of origin.[15] It has also been claimed that, by late 1917, there had already been a first wave of the epidemic in at least 14 US military camps.[24]

  56. @Lockean Proviso

    Indeed I am glad to see recognition that the author is seriously deficient in medical knowledge even when connected to proper non PC views of race and genetics.

  57. In my opinion this was bioengineered attack on China and indirectly at Iran by the deep state.

  58. Realist says:
    @Just passing through

    So what’s up with the deaths in Iran? Are Persians not closer to Europeans genetically than East Asians?

    Yes, Persians are closer, genetically, to Europeans than East Asians, but that does not preclude the possibility that a number of Persians carry the ACE2 gene. It also appears that Italians are more susceptible to Covid-19, but they as well may have an increased propensity to carry the ACE2 gene…possibly due to the numerous cross cultural invasions over the last few thousand years.

  59. I do not know where there is substance to the concerns regarding ACE2 and greater East Asian susceptibility, but it is great we have an uncensored place to discuss it and hear from others.

    • Agree: Realist
  60. Realist says:
    @Ron Unz

    Yes, I tend to agree that the ACE2 theory has been circulating for weeks so this article doesn’t really break any new ground. Obviously, the racial focus claims are much weaker and thinner than they were back a month ago. Frankly, I don’t regard this piece as all that good.

    On a related issue, I’d be very curious to know whether the version of the Coronavirus that has hit Iran (and especially its political elites) so hard is genetically identical to the one that originally hit China, and later spread to South Korea and Japan.

    If the virus is identical, that would seem to rule out the special vulnerability of East Asians. If the Iranian virus is significantly different…well, that raises “interesting” issues of its own, especially since Iran was hit so soon after China.

    See my comment #32

    • Replies: @Realist
  61. kat says:
    @AnonFromBeijing

    A vaccine, huh?
    So you’ve read the studies?
    Can I recommend that only the scientists, staff, execs and those heavily invested in those companies be the test subjects.
    vaccinate > challenge > ???
    No need to reply. I already know the answer .

  62. @Hail

    Hello Hail,

    I think the best way to understand what is going on with the coronavirus is to flip the script. This is not a novel or unusual situation. In fact, Covid-19 is behaving no differently than viruses in general do. The reason this general virus behavior is only becoming apparent now is because Covid-19 is the most extensively studied and documented viral outbreak in living memory, and because most people’s erstwhile thinking about viruses has been blighted by a lot of shallow, unscientific, sensational nonsense (and this includes the so-called scientific community).

    Now, these are the relevant facts about viruses that the Covid-19 epidemic teaches.

    • Viruses readily cross species barriers and are in general quite transmissible both between and within species. The ideas that epidemics are precipitated by saltation events, i.e. sudden jumps that require random mutations (or their sinister counterpart, the non-random mutations of deliberate bioweapons engineering) are misguided. Outbreaks involving a moticeable increase in mortality and thereby garnering a public response are rare precisely because most viruses are already present among us, unremarked and unremarkable.

    • Virus-related morbidity and mortality follows a Pareto distribution, an 80-20 law. Of all those exposed to a virus, only 20% will contract it. Of all those infected with a virus, 80% will be asymptomatic. Of the 20% who develop symptoms, 80% of those will have no more than a mild cold. Truly serious illness will be confined to the remaining 4%, among whom, with appropriate care, many will recover. This accords well with the reported lethality of about 2% for Covid-19. Since 96% of the infected population will experience nothing worse than a cold, and even the infected population is but a small subset of the total population, viruses can spread far and wide before anybody really notices them.

    • Viruses are not in any sense alive, nor do they “straddle the boundary between life and non-life.” Viruses are entirely artifactual. They originate by the same process by which we see them multiplied, viz. they are manufactured by organic cells, for ends which are no doubt as varied and multitudinous as the functions which living activity must subserve. The question must needs be asked, “Why are there viruses at all?” And the answer can only be, “Because cells produce them.”

    • Viruses therefore do not and cannot “mutate,” but the are mutated—i.e. modified—by the cells that multiply them, and this changes their properties.

    • Viruses become factors in disease only when their production bocomes excessive, and this is usually the result of some cofactor. Linear predictions of mortality cannot be made in individual cases, as the variables are too numerous and complicated.

    • The acceptance of these facts will allow the discovery of a rich and varied viral economy taking place at the subcellular level which will open up new avenues for supportive care of viral diseases.

    • Thanks: Hail
    • Replies: @Bert
    , @anon
    , @Hail
  63. Thirdtwin says:

    “…No significant disparities in ACE2 gene expression were found between racial groups (Asian vs Caucasian), age groups (>60 vs <60) or gender groups (male vs female). However, we observed significantly higher ACE2 gene expression in smoker samples compared to non-smoker samples. This indicates the smokers may be more susceptible to 2019-nCov and thus smoking history should be considered in identifying susceptible population and standardizing treatment regimen.”

    https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202002.0051/v1

    Anything there? Just curious.

  64. annamaria says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    You can easily protect your racial sensitivity by moving in with people of your race.
    No one forces sub-Saharan Africans to Norway and the UK. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/marine-le-pen-calls-referendum-stop-submersion-france-mass-immigration
    Perhaps you need to explain it to yourself why you want to be around white people and away from your race and your ancestral land. You have plenty of opportunities to protect your racial sensitivities by leaving western civilization and joining the civilization of your race. Otherwise, you are like M. Markle who can not stop whining about being abused by “racists,” which is funny considering that this spectacularly ignorant and pretentious soft-porn ‘actress’ has been avoiding black boyfriends like a plague all her life.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  65. Realist says:
    @Realist

    Correction comment #59 above

  66. This makes me recall a novel I read long ago, the name of which I’ve forgotten.What I do remember was its salient feature, an illness called “SPD” as in “selective pigmentation disease”. It was a novel idea for me at the time (maybe 40 years ago), and it remains a novelty now, because I’m just not convinced it’s possible. If it is, however, some group or other will be almost certain to weaponize it and turn it loose.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    , @Sam J.
  67. Thomasina says:
    @BuelahMan

    Do you mean this is all being used to scare us, fool us, or steer the herd in a different direction?

    Like Weapons of Mass Destruction, babies being thrown out of incubators, Jews made into soap and lampshades, Gulf of Tonkin, the Russiagate hoax, and the like?

    I’m beginning to think so, although I haven’t watched James Corbett’s report yet. Corbett always follows the bouncing ball, doesn’t he?

    My thinking is they had to find a way to shut down China’s manufacturing because the globalists hugely increased their inventories ahead of Trump’s tariffs. Demand slowed down, and now they have a huge supply to get rid of. If you’re interested in a different theory, see my response to Paul Craig Roberts’ new article on Unz.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Whitewolf
  68. Missing anywhere in this article: any mention of the basic fact that viruses mutate and that there are already known to be at least two distinct strains of Covid 19 out there. Therefore any extra susceptibility of (East) Asians to Coronavirus is at best only a temporary feature. Also I’m sure that Italian and Iranian victims of the virus will be interested to discover that they’re East Asians after all.

    I’m not surprised that this article is a reprint from VDare. A legitimate site would laugh it out of the room.

    • Agree: Bert
    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @Realist
  69. @AnonFromBeijing

    Plenty of Americans wish that we could have as effective a quarantine and scientific response to this new virus as the Chinese have largely been doing. The Chinese people have demonstrated admirable coping and responsibility in their vigilance to contain the spread of this very contagious virus, and they have my true sympathies for their personal losses and suffering.

    I wonder if we will have anything like that degree of responsible cooperation with public health or community spirit, especially among our low-IQ, low-impulse control, and high defiance segments of the US population. I’m no fan of some things your government does, but then I guess a lot of you aren’t either. Good luck with the continued fight against COVID-19.

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Spanky
  70. anon[837] • Disclaimer says:

    What the world really needs is a Negroid-specific virus.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  71. @Montefrío

    some group or other will be almost certain to weaponize it and turn it loose.

    I’m pretty sure it won’t be those wily Wakandans, because of course Wakanda isn’t real.

  72. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    This is a little behind time. None of the people who died in the US were East Asian, they were all white. Most of those who died or are infected in Europe are now white. All of the Iranians who died were native Iranians.

    The reason it killed so many people in China is because 1) there are many smokers there, 2) the pollution is bad which means people have weak lungs to begin with, and 3) too many sick people overwhelmed the health system.

    • Replies: @Realist
  73. Thomasina says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Do you have a link providing scientific evidence of this virus mutating? I’d be interested in seeing that.

  74. YAWN——-so tired of this hoax oh I mean deadly virus thing ! Dont give a shit though who has it, will get it or where it was found or going!

    As boring as Russian Collusion Hoax. Is there anything else on the horizon we can flog ??

  75. @annamaria

    Can’t you understand satire? The original comment was satire and so was mine.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  76. @Ron Unz

    Chris Martenson (Peak Prosperity) has been providing very informative half-hour updates on YouTube daily. Every day is worse than the last. And the US is WAY behind the curve in prevention. With Mike Pence now controlling what is allowed to be said, who knows how much they are not telling us?

    Coronavirus has also become a daily obsession with Rick Wiles and his team at TruNews. He also reports a plague of locusts that have decimated East Africa (confirmed by National Geographic) and are making their way into China. The truth of what they report sometimes seems exaggerated (incinerators working 24/7 to burn all the dead bodies in Wuhan?), but his show is still full of good information to a non-Christian skeptic like myself.

    • Replies: @Polymath
    , @Carroll Price
  77. Bert says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    I agree with your sentiments regarding the Chinese. I’m afraid however that American lack of discipline will extend beyond the low-IQ, low-impulse control, and high defiance segments. Sociopathy is not restricted to the lower orders, as exemplified by this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6208875/
    The worst sociopaths I have encountered were highly respected (on limited public information) professors, lol. Breaking quarantine to buy something expensive is exactly the sort of thing that an entitled upper-middle-class sociopath would enjoy for the frisson of it.

  78. Realist says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Also I’m sure that Italian and Iranian victims of the virus will be interested to discover that they’re East Asians after all.

    See my comment #59.

  79. Liza says:

    I recall reading – I don’t know where, as it was some time ago – that a large swath of China’s soil is low in selenium. Selenium-deficient people are more prone to serious infections. So, I looked it up and found an article on some research in this connection:

    Selenium deficiency and human disease
    Ruth J. Coppinger and Alan M. Diamond
    Department of Human Nutrition, University of Illinois at Chicago, Chicago, IL 60612, USA

    https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4615-1609-5_18

    Selenium supplementation is fairly popular in N. America since this information was discovered. Certain minerals are critical for human (and animal) health. It’s not about “genes” – as if genes are some kind of magic substance that falls from the sky. Minerals are what allow genes to express themselves in a positive way

    It’s not only a certain section of China, though. There are plenty of selenium-deficient areas in the world. Also, in China they may be more likely to consume locally grown food though I haven’t really looked into this. Here, we eat food from everywhere and that way might get our Selenium one way or the other.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6769590/

  80. Tor597 says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Are you daft?

    A virus that targets Russians would most likely be a virus that targets themselves.

    So the west cannot really use bioweapons on Russia.

    I am sure there are other plans for Russia that we do not know about.

  81. Realist says:
    @Anon

    The reason it killed so many people in China is because 1) there are many smokers there, 2) the pollution is bad which means people have weak lungs to begin with, and 3) too many sick people overwhelmed the health system.

    That is a supposition…you don’t know that.

  82. Polymath says:
    @follyofwar

    My American friend who has been teaching in China for the last 3 years tells me that “Wuhan crematoria all operating 24-7 and backlogged” is commonly accepted as true in her city. Apparently each one can handle a couple of hundred bodies a day and there are over a dozen of them. You do the math.

    • Replies: @TT
  83. So this is why so many Asian females are trying to mate with white guys.

    They’re gene pirates. They instinctively know their genetics stand a better chance of survival if they obtain white genetic mixture.

    Sorry, every white guy who is with an Asian female who he started a relationship with because ‘she was really into him’. Your genes were the object and the commodity.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Alfred
    , @Tor597
    , @Anon
  84. Alfred says:
    @AnonFromBeijing

    President Xi has instructed the Chinese scientists to focus on vaccine research

    If this is indeed the case, he is receiving bad advice from his scientists. The reality is that vaccines take years to develop and test but the virus is constantly evolving. Anyway you can be sure that new ones are coming in due course. Possibly more deadly ones with a longer incubation period.

    Please tell your honorable president Xi to put 1% of those resources into finding a faster, cheaper and more accurate test. That would lay to rest the Sword of Damocles that is hanging over humanity. It is far easier to modify an existing test to handle any new pestilence. Quarantine is the only tool that works but the triage must be improved.

    I have mentioned this point twice before in the comments after two articles. It seems to me that the readership is either skipping my comment or does not understand the dynamics of this epidemic. Anyone who is familiar with system dynamics would understand my point immediately.

    System Dynamics applied to epidemics

    The purpose of the model is to find the points of sensitivity. It is not a forecasting tool – except when Imperial College does it of course. I believe that an accurate and immediate test would nullify the need to develop any vaccine.

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Eagle Eye
  85. Bert says:
    @Alfred

    The majority of the readership has difficulty with quantitative thinking, which is not much needed for theorizing about conspiracies. But maybe you want to resubmit the screenshot right side up.

    I do agree with you that efficient quarantining is the only active measure possible at the moment and that quarantine would be most effective if testing is quick. The U.S. should swallow its unwarranted pride and adopt the Chinese lockdown/quarantine protocol.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  86. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Is there something [big] missing in your exposition? It was all very interesting, until I tried to reconcile it with the virus with which I’m most familiar, rabies. Linear prediction is simple: infection w/o rapid intervention = death. There are no cofactors. You can be a young, strong, healthy Texas lineman. Bitten by rabid bat, unnoticed = death. Which/whose cells produced that?

    Maybe all you said is correct, but it dosn’t seem to apply to every virus. Is this your field? Can you offer any further explantion? Thanks.

    • Replies: @David riskanalyst
  87. Marko says:

    I’m looking at the information that has been published since the Spanish Flu pandemic and I can assure Mr.Welton it did not discriminate. Infecting over 800,000 people in Ireland in a two month period. Killing 125,000 to 250,000 French civilians and 30,000 French soldiers, claiming the lives of 228,000 British, and more than 400,000 German civilians.

    So no, when you are dealing with a virus as virulent as the flu which like a cold is always mutating it would be quite difficult to adapt to it let alone develop a possible immunity to it.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @dogbumbreath
  88. Liza says:
    @Beavertales

    White men who get together with (marry) Asian women are doing so under the delusion that these women are more pliable, feminine and easy to get along with, that they are going to have an easy life with her. However, it’s an act they put on til marriage. When you marry an Asian woman, you are marrying her family and they, all of them together, call the shots. “Cuck” is not too strong a word for these guys.

    Look at a certain well known writer and his wife. Seems to me like she is running the show while looking “feminine”. I think he would collapse without her directing operations. Some white men need women like that, unfortunately.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  89. Marko says:
    @Anonymous

    Italy has a very high population density than most European countries which would facilitate the spreading of this type of flu.

  90. Anonymous[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @Craig Nelsen

    Indeed the early theories about the Coronavirus was that it was a bio weapon. Some versions of the story claimed it escaped from a Chinese lab. Others that it was deliberately released by US (or Mossad).

    With it spreading internationally now we will see how race-specific it really is.

    The latest conspiracy theories are that separate strains were released in Italy and Iran.

    We’ll all have to wait and see.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
    , @inselaffen
  91. Marko says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    They do, over 250,000 in Milan.

  92. @James Forrestal

    “Africans are immune to it.”

  93. Alfred says:
    @Beavertales

    So this is why so many Asian females are trying to mate with white guys

    An Australian immigration attorney told me that some Chinese women will pay US$200,000 to an Australian citizen (possibly ethnic Chinese) for a fake marriage. They live together for 2 years in Australia. She pays the rent, let’s him fuck her, cooks for him, gives him pocket money and all the rest of it. After 2 years, she gets “Permanent Residence” and they divorce.

    It always amazes me how few white women marry Chinese men and how many white men marry Chinese women. I can think of several possible explanations but I won’t mention them here. 🙂

    • Replies: @last straw
  94. Alfred says:
    @Bert

    The majority of the readership has difficulty with quantitative thinking

    Thank you for a possible explanation. At least I now know someone here understands my point.

    The image is in a paper on ResearchGate.net and it is in that orientation. I could not do anything about it. 🙂

    The U.S. should swallow its unwarranted pride and adopt the Chinese lockdown/quarantine protocol.

    It is obvious that is what they should do but I suspect that it is almost impossible politically. Many people would ignore it. Many people are homeless. The policemen would be trying to protect their families and so on. Videos of Chinese policemen dragging away women who broke the curfew did no favours to the Chinese government.

    The comments below this video show the massive ignorance of the masses in the USA

  95. Here is the Full Video.


    Event 201 pandemic tabletop exercise hosted by The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated the pandemic preparedness efforts needed to diminish the large-scale economic and societal consequences of a severe pandemic.

    Drawing from actual events, Event 201 identifies important policy issues and preparedness challenges that could be solved with sufficient political will and attention. These issues were designed in a narrative to engage and educate the participants and the audience.

    EVENT 201 IS A FICTIONAL EXERCISE AND DISEASE

    Here is the YouTube Selected moments from the Event 201 pandemic tabletop exercise

  96. peterAUS says:
    @Thomasina

    Agree, overall.

    As for

    Do you mean this is all being used to scare us, fool us, or steer the herd in a different direction?
    with
    My thinking is they had to find a way to shut down China’s manufacturing because the globalists hugely increased their inventories ahead of Trump’s tariffs. Demand slowed down, and now they have a huge supply to get rid of. If you’re interested in a different theory, see my response to Paul Craig Roberts’ new article on Unz.

    how about “addressing hard recession”?

    Let’s say that “they” simply saw the hard recession was coming. Question: how to manage that, or, better, how to manage the herd? “We” sold them last time (2008) that “we” found the way to fix it; wouldn’t happen again. And, yet, it’s happening. Herd could start asking wrong questions.

    Enter the virus.

    Economy “contracting”, markets “correcting”….herd losing jobs,homes etc. ….isn’t about faulty system, no, no.
    It’s simply the virus doing. And, on top of it, it came from China. With sprinkling of Iran. Those two countries (regimes, mind you, not people) just appear to be ….somehow wrong. Maybe the world should do something about it? Even by force if necessary?

    And, the last but not the least, to manage all that “we” have, unfortunately of course, to introduce all sorts of rules and laws. All of them giving “us” more control over the herd.

    Nice, a?

  97. And what about the Italian deaths? Are those swarthy Italians not considered white?

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @Kim
  98. Thomasina says:
    @Marko

    Spanish Flu:

    “The majority of deaths were from bacterial pneumonia, a common secondary infection associated with influenza. The virus also killed people directly by causing massive hemorrhages and edema in the lungs.”

    Same as with Covid-19. It would be pneumonia that is killing most of the elderly who get it. I think that’s why the death rate is now going down; people are getting antibiotics for the secondary infection.

    Penicillin wasn’t around during the Spanish Flu pandemic. It didn’t appear until I believe 1942.

  99. 33.Ron Unz says:

    “Obviously, the racial focus claims are much weaker and thinner than they were back a month ago.”

    For the first couple of months, China (or Chinese) had 99% of both infections and deaths. Infections have now dropped to about 80% and deaths at about 95% of the world total. But it’s not as simple as that now. See your next comment below:

    “On a related issue, I’d be very curious to know whether the version of the Coronavirus that has hit Iran (and especially its political elites) so hard is genetically identical to the one that originally hit China, and later spread to South Korea and Japan.”

    Both Iran and Italy have sequenced the genome in their countries and have stated they are both different from the main one in China. What that means is that the virus variety in China is definitely China-specific. But the variety in Korea is different from that in China, maybe more infectious but less deadly. Similar with Taiwan. The one in Iran appears to be the deadliest of all – but nobody knows how Chinese would be affected with that variety. Nor does anyone know how Iranians would be affected by the varieties in China or Korea. Nor the Koreans with the Italian variety . . .

    My guess is that the media are so determined to not state the nationality or ethnic background because they want to bury the information that the first virus was Chinese-specific, leading readers to naturally form a wrong conclusion. One example: the NYT reported that “An American died from the virus in Wuhan.” But I tracked that one down and it was a 60 year-old Chinese woman with US citizenship. Most were like that. Deliberately misleading and burying essential information.,

    42.Thomasina says:

    “And let’s not forget about the huge amount of dual-passport Chinese people living all over the world.”

    There is no such thing as a ‘dual-passport Chinese’, at least not carrying a Chinese passport. China does not permit dual citizenship. If you adopt the citizenship of another country, you lose your Chinese passport and you can never regain it. Similarly, nobody can become a Chinese citizen. There is no way to obtain a Chinese passport except to be born to it.

    84.Polymath says:

    “My American friend who has been teaching in China for the last 3 years tells me that “Wuhan crematoria all operating 24-7 and backlogged” is commonly accepted as true in her city.”

    Wuhan is locked down, and nobody is roaming the streets to see what is happening. Yes there are crematoria because the government dictated that all diseased bodies be burned to prevent further or later contamination. But the 24/7 rumors are bullshit. There has never been any evidence of that, just more wild undocumented claims sufficing as their own proof.

  100. @anon

    Is there something [big] missing in your exposition? It was all very interesting, until I tried to reconcile it with the virus with which I’m most familiar, rabies. Linear prediction is simple: infection w/o rapid intervention = death. There are no cofactors. You can be a young, strong, healthy Texas lineman. Bitten by rabid bat, unnoticed = death. Which/whose cells produced that?

    by Vincent Racaniello Earth’s virology Professor Questions? [email protected]
    http://www.virology.ws/2012/08/22/how-lethal-is-rabies-virus/

    How lethal is rabies virus?
    22 AUGUST 2012
    Desmodus rotundusWhen I am asked to name the most lethal human virus, I never hesitate to name rabies virus. Infection with this virus is almost invariably fatal; just three unvaccinated individuals have been known to survive. New evidence from humans in the Peruvian Amazon suggests that the virus might be less lethal than previously believed.

    Rabies virus is typically transmitted to humans by the bite of an infected mammal, often a carnivore or a bat. Recently there have been numerous outbreaks of rabies in Peru that have been linked to bites of vampire bats. A study of two communities at risk for vampire bat bites was undertaken to determine whether subclinical infection with rabies virus might occur. Over half of 92 individuals interviewed reported having been bitten by bats. Neutralizing antibodies against rabies virus were detected in 7 of 63 serum samples obtained from this population. Antibodies against the viral nucleoprotein were found in three individuals, two of whom were also positive for viral neutralizing antibodies. All 9 seropositive individuals indicated that they had previously had contact with a bat (a bite, scratch, or direct contact with unprotected skin). One of these individuals had previously received rabies vaccine.

    The finding of neutralizing antibodies against rabies virus suggests that these individuals were likely infected, but did not develop fatal disease. It is also possible that they received a sufficiently large dose of virus to induce antibodies, but that viral replication did not occur. Another explanation for the findings is that these individuals were infected with an unknown virus that is highly related to rabies virus, but which is not pathogenic for humans.

  101. Ron Unz says:
    @Ayatollah Smith

    Both Iran and Italy have sequenced the genome in their countries and have stated they are both different from the main one in China. What that means is that the virus variety in China is definitely China-specific….

    My guess is that the media are so determined to not state the nationality or ethnic background because they want to bury the information that the first virus was Chinese-specific, leading readers to naturally form a wrong conclusion. One example: the NYT reported that “An American died from the virus in Wuhan.” But I tracked that one down and it was a 60 year-old Chinese woman with US citizenship. Most were like that. Deliberately misleading and burying essential information.

    Well, if the sequenced genome of the Iran virus is indeed substantially different than that of the China version, with the differences being more than the tiny, trivial changes you’d expect in a few weeks of random mutation, that seems extremely, *extremely* suspicious to me. Frankly, getting pretty close to a smoking-gun that they were deliberate bioweapon attacks.

    I hadn’t heard any of that, which is *exactly* the reason I thought it was so useful to feature the Welton article, even though the piece itself wasn’t all that good or useful.

    • Replies: @Tor597
    , @Wizard of Oz
  102. romar says:
    @Just passing through

    The Nigeria case is an Italian.
    https://www.france24.com/en/20200228-nigeria-coronavirus-milan-italy-pandemic-epidemic-contagion
    Two cases have been reported in Senegal: an Italian (back from home leave) and a Frenchman – arrived from France. http://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20200304-second-case-coronavirus-senegal-african-sports-shelved
    A case has been reported in South Africa – someone who had traveled to Italy, but the report says nothing about his race. https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/breaking-sas-first-positive-case-of-covid-19-confirmed-20200305
    If he is black, then he would be the first.

  103. @Thomasina

    How did the Spanish flu spread?

    The disease was spread by soldiers, ironically at the close of World War I and is thought to have started at Camp Funston, Fort Riley, Kansas. Seemingly healthy soldiers on troop trains, ships and in barracks would unwittingly carry the disease across the globe where the flu would manifest itself.

    https://eu.indystar.com/story/news/history/retroindy/2018/01/31/retroindy-1918-spanish-influenza-swift-and-deadly/1075458001/

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  104. Just adding some information to the conversation which is that Chinese medical workers are heavy smokers
    https://www.businessinsider.com/chinas-health-care-workers-and-smoking-2012-7

    Smoking in China is heavily male so if smoking is a factor as some here have speculated then the victims that are medical workers should be heavily male as well.

    In China smoking is viewed as masculine and a social past time for men. Smoking among females is below US rates.

  105. @Ayatollah Smith

    Wuhan is locked down, and nobody is roaming the streets to see what is happening. Yes there are crematoria because the government dictated that all diseased bodies be burned to prevent further or later contamination. But the 24/7 rumors are bullshit. There has never been any evidence of that, just more wild undocumented claims sufficing as their own proof.

    Don’t know for sure, perhaps they need to send some recon planes over the crematoria to confirm this, the 24/7 oven rumour might be true this time round.

    [MORE]

  106. @Liza

    White men who get together with (marry) Asian women are doing so under the delusion that these women are more pliable, feminine and easy to get along with, that they are going to have an easy life with her.

    I think there is another factor which is that smaller White men want a woman that is smaller than them.

    The problem is that small women have a much wider dating field. Meaning both tall and average sized men will date them. This shrinks the pool of available White women to smaller men.

    I think smaller White men should go the opposite route and get a woman that is a lot bigger than them.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @Madmax
  107. @l'Omnivore Sobriquet

    You seem to have a problem understanding how distributions and statistics work. Europeans might be , say… three times as resistant to Corona-chan, some of them are still bound to die, as they do of the regular flu.

  108. Spanky says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    I wonder if we will have anything like that degree of responsible cooperation with public health or community spirit… — Lockean Proviso

    Plenty of sociopaths outside your limitations. Had an online conversation with one this morning as a matter-of-fact.

    His ideological belief is that the coronavirus is simply a hoax perpetrated by TPTB, and no contrary evidence or logic seems able to sway that conviction. He would defy quarantine orders simply because “the authorities” have no “moral right” to order him to do anything which might cause financial harm.

    Of course the immorality of infecting other people with the virus, especially those more vulnerable, was completely lost on him.

  109. Iva says:

    5 years ago my friend , who work as a genetic scientist in prestigious US university told me that US is working on bio-weapon directed to specific ethnic groups. This time may be Chinese. Which will be next targeted ethnic group? This kind of practice should be outlaw as a crime against humanity. 

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Tor597
  110. @Peter Frost

    So, the idea that there are racial differences concerning the vulnerability to the coronavirus might turn out to be reasonable. At least as a reasonable hypothesis.

  111. @anonymous

    You should self-quarantine.

  112. @Tor597

    The Sars-NCov2, note the scientific name vs the poltical name-it is a 2nd Generation Sars virus after all, hit Iran hard partly due to intense trade deal negotiation between China and Iran. Iran is selling oil and China needs all it can get.

    I am puzzled by how virulent the Virus has been in Iran. Let us bear in mind that there are 2 groups of the virus: S and L. In total there are 103 versions of SARS-NCOV2 as it has mutated extensively.
    This could explain the virulence in Italy and Iran. The facts, ie. the scientific facts, will always lag behind events.
    It is too early to attribute causation.
    What is clear is that the virus is real, it is very virulent, it does kill and, judging by the Washington State cases, it can take up to 6 weeks to hit the radar. Think about that. 6 weeks from contact to being in the midst of fighting to the death.
    We know a lot at this point but there is still a great deal we don’t know.
    One thing is for certain: China keeps lying.
    They claim a decline in cases yet all the economic data is unchanged. They are not burning coal and there is little transportation traffic and very little passenger vehicle traffic.
    China: watch what they do and disregard what they say. They still have 500+million under martial law/quarantine in China.
    Despite this, Western leaders continue to bumble their way to a potential cliff.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  113. annamaria says:
    @Iva

    “Japan, China and Taiwan Reports on the Origin of the Virus:” https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196

    …the greatest diversity of virus strains must be the original source because a single strain cannot emerge from nothing. … only the US has all the five known strains of the virus (while Wuhan and most of China have only one, as do Taiwan and South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, Singapore, and England, Belgium and Germany), constituting a thesis that the haplotypes in other nations may have originated in the US.

    Korea and Taiwan have a different haplotype of the virus than China, perhaps more infective but much less deadly, which would account for a death rate only 1/3 that of China.

    … Iran and Italy … have now deciphered the locally prevalent genome and have declared them of different varieties from those in China, which means they did not originate in China but were of necessity introduced from another source. It is worth noting that the variety in Italy has approximately the same fatality rate as that of China, three times as great as other nations, while the haplotype in Iran appears to be the deadliest with a fatality rate of between 10% and 25%…

    … in September of 2019 … some Japanese traveled to Hawaii and returned home infected, people who had never been to China. This was two months prior to the infections in China and just after the CDC suddenly and totally shut down the Fort Detrick bio-weapons lab claiming the facilities were insufficient to prevent loss of pathogens.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
  114. @A.R.

    Since you ask…

    Predominantly NORTHERN Italy, in fact.

    And northern Italy is home to… a quarter of a million CHINESE workers who slave in the Italian fashion-industry sweatshops.

    But the Italian government doesn’t want to talk about that – as there are hundreds of thousands of unemployed and under-employed Italian youths looking for work, and it wouldn’t look too good for… umm… diversity.

    • Agree: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Thomasina
  115. @Franklin Ryckaert

    The efficacy of a vaccine for this virus would be low. I’m estimating less than 30%. You have better odds facing it head on (40%).
    Surprisingly, thousands of ill-informed morons will clamour for and even pay to be injected as part of a longitudinal study.
    A sucker is born every minute. Next!

  116. @Nosquat Loquat

    There are a lot of Chinese in Northern Italy, aren’t there?

  117. @Ayatollah Smith

    You are deliberately misinforming people.
    First, all the high level people in China have 2 passports. It is normal, once one has reached a certain level of success, to do this AND to have a foreign bank account(s). The CCP has not and will not create a socialist paradise. The 400+million peasants in the countryside have no social programs, except a son for retirement, and barely adequate medical care let alone dental care.

    As to cremation, in the midst of an economic shutdown with little use of coal due to NO DEMAND FROM INDUSTRY the air quality has improved dramatically. The satellite imagery cannot be disputed. It clearly shows that large quantities of sulfur dioxide, from the sulfur polymers in bodybags, have been emanating from Wuhan for ~6 weeks.
    The CCP has tried to hide this by bringing in mobile organic waste burners that are essentially mounted on a trailer frame and include an exhaust scrubber(s). These units can cremate 5 tonnes of waste per run, scrub the exhaust and hide the facts from the West and the Chinese people.

    You are a shameless liar and a shill.

    • Troll: Daniel Chieh
  118. @Alfred

    U.S. census data indicate that among second generation Asians, about 30% males marry non-Asians while 60% female does so. The disparity is probably much higher between first generation Asian males and females, and for marriages to white expats.

  119. @Franklin Ryckaert

    You are also racist for using the word “racist”, which itself pre-supposes, and by it’s existence supports, the existence of non-existent races.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  120. @Spanky

    No. Since you ask. You’re welcome.

  121. gj says:

    “We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area.”

    This is old news and has since been proven false..

  122. @anon

    I have every belief and expectation that will come, courtesy of Tel Aviv laboratories – just as soon as the ruling Jewish oligarchy governing a destroyed world realises – rather too late of course – that being the sole few hundred-thousand trillionaire rulers of countless billion grindingly-poor, oppressed, angry, violent black slaves who don’t give a toss about the Holohoax or it’s beneficiaries is not a terribly smart position to have put themselves in.

    But sadly, by that time the rest of us will be long, long gone.

    • Agree: Sam J.
  123. @Anonymous

    separate strains were released in Italy and Iran

    I’m not sure about Italy vs Iran. But it’s already common knowledge that the strain in Italy is completely different (and separate) to the original strain in China.

    And so of course, the msm is not prepared to discuss that on any level – as the only possible logical explanation for those with a working and communicating brain is therefore a deliberate conspiracy. By…. well.. (((you know who))) .

    • Replies: @anon
  124. @Anonymous

    conspiracy theories mutate even faster than virii and can adapt to any reality.

    • Replies: @anon
  125. Krixxx says:
    @Traveler 3468

    What about Africans? Either they have some kids nd of immunity or someone wants Africa to fall apart and is downplaying the severity until it’s too late to stop total devastation.

    • Replies: @Spanky
  126. @annamaria

    Why the specific targeting of Italy though? The deep state trying to take out Matteo Salvini?

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  127. @Lol just lol

    Are you retarded or something? Only a tiny number of ethnic minorities living in rural areas of southern Iran have “Turkic-Mongolian” ancestry, which does not necessarily make them signicicantly less European. Many Turks in East Asia such as Uighurs are closer to Europeans than East Asians depending on which sample you use.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Lol just lol
  128. melpol says:

    Bio warfare is now on, US fired first shot. Now China fired a cluster virus back. Dozens of US cities hit.
    THIS IS FAKE NEWS.^^
    But the HIV and SARS epidemic was a real bio weapon.
    Only Orientals around the world died from the SARS epidemic. HIV mostly infected Blacks and Hispanics.
    BIO WARFARE MUST BE ENDED. Hated minorities will be targeted next by bigoted scientists.

  129. @KA

    There have been DNA mixing in southern Italy ,mixing between China and Italians in Middle Ages .
    Iran has similar mixing from Mongol invasion.

    Lol, you have zero evidence for this. East Asian DNA in Iran (mostly in ethnic minorities) dates back to way before the “Mongol invasion”. The eastern Iranians had already been mixing with East Asians since 4000 years ago.

  130. Eagle Eye says:
    @Alfred

    [China should] put 1% of those resources into finding a faster, cheaper and more accurate test. That would lay to rest the Sword of Damocles that is hanging over humanity. It is far easier to modify an existing test to handle any new pestilence. Quarantine is the only tool that works but the triage must be improved.

    In fact, China, the U.S. and other affected countries should each develop at least THREE SEPARATE tests and protocols to assess and triage suspected COVID 19 cases. “Let a hundred flowers bloom.”

    Development and confirmation of tests should initially be handled by strictly SEPARATE groups of researchers and administrators in each country. The U.S. government should insist on getting independent, confidential input e.g. from the CDC, university-affiliated research facilities, military facilities, NIH, individual drug companies, etc.

    Any ONE test will naturally have specific advantages and disadvantages, false positives and false negatives, practical issues (e.g. durability, need for cold storage, processing times, need for complex post-processing, risk of contamination, etc.).

    Using several tests side-by-side and correlating results is the best approach to gain additional and perhaps crucial insights at the earliest possible time. In other words, bring some REAL DIVERSITY to bear on the process of dealing with the epidemic.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  131. Pheasant says:
    @Thomasina

    ‘dual-passport Chinese people living all over the world’

    China does not allow dual citizenship and Hong Kongers were relatively late to be infected.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @Wizard of Oz
  132. @Hapalong Cassidy

    It’s probably helping him, because he is the leader of the opposition, and it’s the government who could get into trouble with this epidemic.

  133. Skeptikal says:
    @Just passing through

    I read somewhere that the virus in Iran is actually a different one from the COVID-19 or whatever it is called. Related, but different. Sorry I cannot name a source.

  134. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Unfortunately, the study doesn’t prove anything. If you look at it, it says the samples were taken from 8 donors. 1 of those guys, and only 1, was Asian.

    We need a larger sample size to prove anything.

    It is entirely possible this Asian male had more ACE 2 receptors because of a personal mutation carried by his own family line. In other words, the study could have just happened to sample someone who had more ACE 2 receptors through random chance.

    It is entirely possible that smokers develop more ACE 2 receptors because of the smoking habit. Half of all Chinese men smoke. The ACE 2 enzyme, which targets the ACE 2 receptor, is an enzyme that your body produces to heal damage, in this case, lung damage. It appears likely that your lungs develop more ACE 2 receptors when your body starts pumping out more ACE 2 enzyme. Was the sample taken from a smoker? We don’t know. But since half of all Chinese men smoke, there’s a fifty-fifty chance it was.

    One Asian male in the study isn’t enough to tell us anything conclusive. We need many tissue samples from Asian males throughout China, from a mix of donors living in both non-polluted and polluted areas, plus a mix of non-smokers to smokers, so we can tell anything at all.

  135. Alfred says:
    @Eagle Eye

    In fact, China, the U.S. and other affected countries should each develop at least THREE SEPARATE test

    Absolutely. Finding good tests is far cheaper than finding a good vaccine IMHO.

    The test can be tried out on benign versions of coronavirus in safety. There is no need to try it on animals or people and to exposes them later to the real thing. It does not change the people exposed to it in any way and so on.

    I suspect that the search for a vaccine is merely an expensive PR stunt. 🙁

    Here is a propaganda piece about vaccines – a lucrative trade that seeks to enlarge its market by any means. As is usual, they refer to rubella and polio. But these vaccines were developed over 50 years ago.

    [MORE]

    The value of immunization has never been more apparent. Yet Americans have grown skeptical of vaccines — as well as the science behind them. That has to change. Few medical innovations have saved more lives than vaccines. And they may play an even larger role in the years to come.

    It wasn’t long ago that rubella posed a fearsome threat to unborn children. A U.S. outbreak in 1964-65 led to 11,000 miscarriages, abortions, and deaths in the womb. Another 20,000 children suffered birth defects.

    The first vaccines for rubella became available in 1969. Of course, the victory over rubella is only the latest success story for vaccines. As recently as the 1950s, polio posed a serious threat to American children. A 1952 outbreak of the disease infected almost 60,000 children and killed more than 3,000. The disease paralyzed thousands more.

    Don’t grow immune to the value of vaccines

  136. Thomasina says:
    @Ayatollah Smith

    “There is no such thing as a ‘dual-passport Chinese’, at least not carrying a Chinese passport. China does not permit dual citizenship.”

    I should have said dual-passport/Green Card/permanent resident Chinese people. I know on paper the Chinese government does not allow dual citizenship, but it probably doesn’t allow money laundering either, and yet it’s done with much frequency by the Chinese. One of the other replies below your post (from steinbergfeldwitzcohen) states that the ultra wealthy elite Chinese do get away with having dual passports.

    I don’t really much care. My point was that the Chinese are in absolutely every country in the world, in great numbers, they’re living in those countries, and then they’re flying back and forth to China. If they were infected with Covid-19, it’s not surprising that these other countries’ citizens would be getting the disease.

    That was my point.

  137. Tor597 says:
    @Beavertales

    Maybe this is why so many white females are trying to mate with black guys.

    They instinctively know the offspring will stand a better chance of survival.

    • Replies: @Kim
  138. Thomasina says:
    @Dr. E. Black

    Thanks. Yes, that Spanish flu was an absolute terrible tragedy. It’s just unfortunate that Penicillin wasn’t around at that time. It may have saved so many lives. And it struck the young too, didn’t it? Went after those with the best immune systems (not so much babies or the elderly). I suppose living in crowded, damp conditions enabled the disease to spread faster.

    I remember one of my elderly relatives telling me that their farming community was getting hit hard (would have been around the time of the Spanish flu as he was a little boy), and everybody was getting sick. The family quarantined themselves, stayed away from everybody but their own immediate family. About a week later they went to check on their neighbors. All they found was one little four-year old girl still living, left all by herself. She had lost her mom and dad and all her brothers and sisters.

    I hope we never see anything like that again.

    Take care.

    • Replies: @Nichevo
    , @UK
    , @dogbumbreath
  139. SteveK9 says:

    If I understand this is a study with 8 people, ONE of whom was an Asian male. Is that correct? If so, this is a ridiculously small sample from which no conclusions whatever can be drawn.

  140. Thomasina says:
    @Pheasant

    See Comments #120 and 141.

    What I’d like to know is why almost all influenzas come from Asia. Apparently every year the CDC travels to Asia in order to try to guess which influenza will be hitting the West every winter (so they can make a flu vaccine). Why do these diseases always originate in Asia?

    • Replies: @Whitewolf
  141. Good news ! “Starbucks says that more than 90% of its stores in China are now open for business…About 95% of its stores should be open by the end of Q2.” seekingalpha.com
    Trump may be right after-all, he called the Coronavirus outbreak a “hoax” and said it would be over by April.

    • Replies: @UK
  142. melpol says:

    Those with at least half Negro ancestry will be immune from the deadly virus. Blacks don’t catch colds neither are they affected by the newest virus. Deep dark Africa hasn’t had one black infected with the Coronavirus and never will.
    This information is based on my intuition.

  143. Nichevo says:

    Haven’t read through all the comments, but we also have the tenderly, politically correctly handled episode of M*A*S*H wherein we learn that the new malaria treatment, primaquene, successor I suppose to quinine, has a debilitating effect not only on Negroes, as they were called in the framework of the show, but also on Persons of Middle Eastern ancestry, in the form of Maxwell Q Klinger, and I think maybe someone else in the unit. Imagine that during 1971-82 or so, you could talk about that on television.

  144. @Old and Grumpy

    I hadn’t heard of Bill Gate’s eugenics program. Sources please?

  145. Nichevo says:
    @Thomasina

    It’s recently been suggested that the high doses of aspirin, the only relevant drug than available, that were prescribed as treatment for this disorder, may have had negative effect and caused mortality.

  146. UK says:
    @Thomasina

    As any fule kno, anti-biotics don’t treat viral infections.

    Goodness, perhaps you’re one of those people who demand such from their doctor when they get a cold.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
    , @Alfred
  147. UK says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    I trust Trump’s intuition over the WHO. He has a better track record.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  148. @Tom Welsh

    ID is no troll my friend. Many of the best comments here -under more than one handle -throughout the years.

  149. Tor597 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Neither Iran nor Italy were included in the above tests, but both countries have now deciphered the locally prevalent genome and have declared them of different varieties from those in China, which means they did not originate in China but were of necessity introduced from another source. It is worth noting that the variety in Italy has approximately the same fatality rate as that of China, three times as great as other nations, while the haplotype in Iran appears to be the deadliest with a fatality rate of between 10% and 25%. (7) (8) (9)

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-coronavirus-shocking-update/5705196

    (7) http://en.people.cn/n3/2020/0301/c90000-9663473.html

    (8) http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2020/02/27/coronavirus-italian-strain-isolated-at-sacco-hospital_986ff0c2-7bd6-49fe-bbef-b3a0c1ebd6f4.html

    (9) Coronavirus has Mutated, Iran attacked by a Different Strain from Wuhan

  150. Tor597 says:
    @Iva

    It is no secret.

    Project for a new American Century (PNAC) is on record calling race based weapons a politically useful tool.

    https://archive.org/details/RebuildingAmericasDefenses/page/n5/mode/2up

  151. Biff says:
    @John Johnson

    I think there is another factor which is that smaller White men want a woman that is smaller than them.

    The problem is that small women have a much wider dating field. Meaning both tall and average sized men will date them. This shrinks the pool of available White women to smaller men.

    I think smaller White men should go the opposite route and get a woman that is a lot bigger than them.

    What are you on?! Or, is this the result of corona virus fever?

  152. @Pheasant

    What do you mean by “does not allow”? Is that any more than “does not treat dual citizen as if they are entitled to any privilege”? (Actually consular visits to those arrested are allowed I think).

    • Replies: @Pheasant
  153. Thomasina says:
    @Dave Bowman

    “And northern Italy is home to… a quarter of a million CHINESE workers who slave in the Italian fashion-industry sweatshops.”

    Now this is interesting. If true, it would explain why northern Italy has been hit so hard. Some of them may have returned from the Chinese New Year, already sick or infected.

    And apparently there are approximately 3,000 Chinese people living in Iran.

    “Iran’s significant trade links with China, where COVID-19 originated, left the country vulnerable to the spread of the virus.”

    Iran has been hit hard from U.S. economic sanctions. Although they manufacture their own antiviral medications, they are dependent on getting the raw materials for some of their pharmaceuticals from China and India. China is having a hard time supplying this material at the moment, and India, who also gets some of its raw materials from China, has recently said they are going to export only after their own population is taken care of. The death toll in Iran is probably higher because of this.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/03/iran-coronavirus-spreads-sanctions-covid19-iranian-doctors-fear-worst/

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  154. @Ron Unz

    Should you not factor in reasoning about vaccines for a full analysis and assessment of probabilities. True, one would not want to show up with a vaccine too soon if you were the creator or spreader of the virus – but you would want immunity for you and yours. This leads to the thought that the more likely inventor and infecter might be one of the rare beneficiaries from the virus outbreak. Cashing in on vaccination or alleged cures could be a logical motive. And success would allow sales of the virus mutating technology to governments.
    And all that suggests another fairly low probability possibility, namely that Israel is responsible for developing and spreading the virus. Iran? Check. China – well that would allow the effectiveness of the strongest countermeasures to be tested……. Amongst low probability events to be looked for an Israeli contribution to developing a vaccine should be considered. Will Israel suffer much economically from the Corona virus outbreak?

  155. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    Commenter James Forrestal sounds like he’s not aware of Chinese labor population in Italy?

    …if they don’t run out of Chinese Italians pretty soon, they’re gonna fill up all of their ICU beds (about 5000 in the whole country):

    There are ~350,000 legal Chinese immigrants/workers in Italy plus an unknown number of illegals. They are in the northern industrial zone. Milano is ground zero. Helluva coincidence.

    Re Iran: … an unz commenter back in Feb said there were plenty of ethnic minority “orientals” in Iran. I have no idea if that’s true. I theorized that Chinese illegal labor smuggling routes were the source of the outbreak but others claim Chinese scientists assisting Iranian nuke program?

  156. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8075633/First-British-victim-25-describes-coronavirus.html

    It’s also doing a good job in perhaps America’s Whitest large city: Seattle

    I consider myself an HBD’r, but when you jump the gun and look too eager to make facts fit your theory you start to look like your anti-science agenda-driven leftist enemies. This needs a lot more serious study before we can make conclusions. This isn’t like established Black-White IQ differences that have been studied extensively for decades.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  157. Hail says: • Website
    @James Forrestal

    OK, Welton’s stance was at least defensible as speculation at one point, but now he’s gone off the deep end. He’s reflexively doubling down on an emotionally-based conviction out of a combination of sheer ignorance, blind stubbornness, availability bias, anchoring bias, and confirmation bias. See also premature diagnostic closure.

    And this is simply pathetic: […] based on a “study” of 1 Asian [from late January]

    When I saw what this article was, the word ‘Clickbait‘ came to mind. A ctrl-f search of the comments shows no one else has used this word so far, but I think it applies. This Lance Welton article, on its own terms, is clickbait.

    Beware of writing like this:

    IT’S OFFICIAL

    — which is not backed up by anything, or only by re-treaded, flismy speculations stretched out over hundreds of words.

    It might get lots of marginal ‘clicks,’ but in Unz Review terms are clicks even something desired? I mean, given that UR does not “sell” views/clicks to advertisers for money, there is no reason even for clickbait. Cost-Benefit: A real risk realizing they’ve been clickbaited will annoy readers.

    If an “Is there an ethnic proclivity to COVID19?” article is called for, why not publish Peter Frost’s (originally at his blog)?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  158. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Bowman

    “And so of course, the msm is not prepared to discuss that on any level…”

    Is this mainstream enough for you? See comment #128 for a mirror view.

    Coronavirus has mutated at least once into two strains, study finds
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/coronavirus-has-mutated-at-least-once-into-two-strains-study-finds/ar-BB10NALk?ocid=spartanntp

  159. anon[161] • Disclaimer says:
    @inselaffen

    Spot on, lol. Bears repeating!

    Conspiracy theories mutate even faster than virii and can adapt to any reality.

  160. Thomasina says:
    @UK

    From one “fule” to another: I am aware that antibiotics are useless against viral infections, but Covid-19 patients have been getting secondary bacterial infections because of this illness, which antibiotics do treat.

    You’re welcome.

  161. Hail says: • Website
    @Ayatollah Smith

    Both Iran and Italy have sequenced the genome in their countries and have stated they are both different from the main one in China. What that means is that the virus variety in China is definitely China-specific. But the variety in Korea is different from that in China, maybe more infectious but less deadly. Similar with Taiwan. The one in Iran appears to be the deadliest of all – but nobody knows how Chinese would be affected with that variety. Nor does anyone know how Iranians would be affected by the varieties in China or Korea. Nor the Koreans with the Italian variety . . .

    This sounds like people may be looking at the WHO’s rolling total-infections and total-deaths numbers and make huge assumptions thereupon. (I highlighted the “What this means” — says who?)

    S.Korea’s death rate is at 0.5%; Iran’s was long much higher (15%+) but has come down.

    The more reasonable explanation for this gap is that Iran (and Italy to an extent) were caught much more “flat-footed,” the virus had been spreading there a long time before it was recognized, and there was/is a serious undercount of infectees. The more reasonable explanation is the the S.Korean authorities acted fast and comprehensively and mobilized full resources and have been way ahead in testing any and all comers, so they have probably picked up a large number of the total infected, where Iran’s health authorities have probably picked up naught but a small percentage of carriers.

  162. Hail says: • Website
    @Intelligent Dasein

    because most people’s erstwhile thinking about viruses has been blighted by a lot of shallow, unscientific, sensational nonsense

    I would suggest zombie movies are a contributor, and a few killer-virus movies; often the two are the same movie, with “new virus–>zombies–>chaos” plots. (I think there was one popular ‘killer virus pandemic’ movie a few years ago based on a Steven King novel.)

    ____________

    This is not a novel or unusual situation. In fact, Covid-19 is behaving no differently than viruses in general do. The reason this general virus behavior is only becoming apparent now is because Covid-19 is the most extensively studied and documented viral outbreak in living memory

    Agree.

    It’s an interesting case of information saturation, a pretty blatant example of its potential downsides.

    What I mean specifically is, if every passing flu virus were covered this way, with wall-to-wall coverage, there would be no other news at all.

    I wrote about this in a thread a few days ago (comment-6) and the 1968 flu. What if all the other big, ongoing world news at the time were canceled because of the bad flu strain of that year:

    the now-forgotten influenza pandemics of of 1957 and 1968

    Imagine, with all that was going on in 1968, if everything (‘history’) had stopped and the world-media transitioned to a drumbeat of daily scare-stories about the influenza pandemic ongoing that year? The virus was killing people by Nov. 1968, when Nixon was elected; imagine if all-virus-all-the-time media coverage induced widespread panic by September, October, such that the election was suspended and LBJ remained caretaker president (with a masked cabinet; the virus!) because, hey, tens of thousands of Americans are dying. (It was true; but it’s true every year, right, just less so.)

    I must admit I didn’t even know that a 1968 influenza pandemic had infected millions, killed 0.5% of those in infected (acc. to the best estimate), and then faded, basically totally forgotten.

  163. Ron Unz says:
    @Hail

    When I saw what this article was, the word ‘Clickbait‘ came to mind. A ctrl-f search of the comments shows no one else has used this word so far, but I think it applies. This Lance Welton article, on its own terms, is clickbait.

    Well, that’s a somewhat fair criticism. But I would argue there’s also a reasonable case on the other side.

    As of right now, I still think it’s perfectly possible that East Asians are far, far more vulnerable to the China version of the Coronavirus than whites. The MSM has strongly emphasized the relative vulnerability due to age and even gender, but kept the possible racial angle a totally dark secret. That naturally makes reasonable people quite suspicious, especially given the serious bioweapon possibility.

    I had felt that the strongest argument on the other side had been the very deadly Iran outbreak, since the prominent victims have all been Caucasian. But if a commenter upthread is correct, the Iran version of the virus may be quite substantially different than the Chinese version, which raises numerous additional questions.

    If an article like this seizes upon relatively weak evidence, e.g. the small-sample ACE2 study, that’s still better than NO evidence, which is what the silence of the MSM has provided.

    Consider the analogy of a very high-profile street-crime in which the MSM utterly refuses to provide any details about the arrested perpetrator. That naturally produces suspicions that they’re covering it up for ideological reasons.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @UK
  164. Are there any explanations as to how, where, and why at least two high-ranking Iranian government officials died as a result of contracting the virus?

  165. Kim says:
    @Nosquat Loquat

    And what about the Italian deaths? Are those swarthy Italians not considered white?

    Of course they aren’t. Sicily, Calabria, indeed, everywhere south of Rome has regularly been overrun by or colonized by arabs and north africans, for centuries at a time.

    But who needs history? Just look at them. No italians are not white. Nor are modern Greeks. Nor Albanians, nor Russians. Look at Putin, he’s half chink. And so is Trump’s wife, for that matter.

  166. Kim says:
    @Tor597

    Maybe this is why so many white females are trying to mate with black guys.

    Just because your mom does it, doesn’t mean every slut is doing it.

    • LOL: Whitewolf, Biff
  167. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    The MSM has strongly emphasized the relative vulnerability due to age and even gender, but kept the possible racial angle a totally dark secret.

    The MSM dealt with the issue during 2003 SARS outbreak in Canada:

    https://archive.macleans.ca/article/2003/4/14/the-racist-face-of-sars
    THE RACIST FACE OF SARS

    “The perception is that SARS is contained to one group of people. It should be remembered that pathogens know no race or creed.”

    Note how many times Hitler and Nazis are mentioned in the article.

    • Agree: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Anon
  168. @Marko

    Pathogens attack humans and we become severely ill when our immune system is not functioning properly. Your immune system functions poorly when you have poor nutrition (lack of fresh foods) and lack of vitamin D. The Spanish Flu was so deadly because it was after WW1. Consider 4 years of war which resulted in a World Wide disruption of food, war induced food rations, low quality canned goods, poor sanitation, stress etc… It is no coincidence that January/February was the height of deaths during the Spanish Flu since there was very little sunshine (low levels of natural Vitamin D). Also, doctors were incorrectly prescribing Aspirin which in large doses became toxic and contributed to death.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  169. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    The MSM dealt with the issue during 2003 SARS outbreak in Canada…Note how many times Hitler and Nazis are mentioned in the article.

    Yes, it really would be interesting to know what percentage of the 2003 fatalities were East Asian. 97%? 99%? 100%? Somebody must know.

    I’d never paid any attention to the 2003 outbreak, but back in January I read somewhere it had almost exclusively been EAs, and that immediately started me wondering whether one or both might be racial bioweapons.

    The notion of the fanatically “anti-racist” MSM covering up the deadly use of a racial bioweapon would really give a whole new meaning to the term “useful idiots”…

    • Agree: utu, ld
    • Replies: @TT
  170. @follyofwar

    The truth of what they report sometimes seems exaggerated (incinerators working 24/7 to burn all the dead bodies in Wuhan?),

    With China struggling to burn a few hundred bodies per week, it makes you wonder what secret the Nazis used for burning several thousand per day – every day.

    • Replies: @dogbumbreath
  171. @JohnPlywood

    Now just think how responsible and mature your post might have been if only you’d omitted your first sentence.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  172. @Tom Welsh

    Par for the course with that one, alas.

    The site has an IGNORE feature which can help.

    • Replies: @Lol just lol
  173. @Wizard of Oz

    He probably meant to say Bill Gates’s anti-eugenics program, whereby increased African over-population is facilitated by attention to issues of disease, nutrition, and emigration to western nations where de white wimmenz at.

    https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Where-We-Work/Africa-Office/Focus-Countries

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  174. @Carroll Price

    History is written by the winners so if it’s difficult now then it was difficult then. Why do you believe every statistic is accurate? Historians like David Irvine proved otherwise.

  175. Madmax says: • Website
    @John Johnson

    I am a short thin white man and have married a very tiny Asian woman. Australian women are too big and fat and bossy. They can belt me up. I read that a bat carries up to 500 viruses, many different cold or corona virus strains. Now every person with a cold has corona virus, inc my tiny wife.

  176. Madmax says: • Website

    No toilet paper on our country towns supermarket shelves for3 days. In Australia. Tried to instal bidet but got plumbing wrong and water hits roof.

  177. @JohnPlywood

    The irony of an actual retard—note the belligerence of your reply which is common with the stupid who think they are smart—calling me a “retard.”

    Also, there is a significant number of Iranians who have Turkic-Mongolia ancestors to varying degrees. The Azeri ethnicity being one of them.

    My God you are stupid. Seriously.

  178. @Mr McKenna

    Another idiot detected lol.

    Stupid seems to be rather common here.

  179. 103.Ron Unz says:

    “Well, if the sequenced genome of the Iran virus is indeed substantially different than that of the China version, with the differences being more than the tiny, trivial changes you’d expect in a few weeks of random mutation, that seems extremely, *extremely* suspicious to me. Frankly, getting pretty close to a smoking-gun that they were deliberate bioweapon attacks.”

    Yes, perhaps, but I do not know the extent or consequences of the differences between the main variety in China and those in Italy and Iran. When the sequencing reports were published, no details were provided, and I have seen none since. The statements simply said the varieties in Iran and Italy were “different from” that in China and therefore could not have originated from China. I would be very curious to know . . .

    174.Ron Unz says:

    “Yes, it really would be interesting to know what percentage of the 2003 fatalities were East Asian. 97%? 99%? 100%? Somebody must know.”

    SARS was 99% Chinese, the remainder being some Vietnamese – who are genetically very similar to Chinese. I cannot now recall if even a single Caucasian or black were infected. I believe not, but I am not 100% certain.

    • Thanks: Liza
  180. @Wizard of Oz

    Wizard,

    I hadn’t heard of Bill Gate’s eugenics program. Sources please?

    Of course whatever is available is in Orwellian doublespeak. He talks about “saving lives”. Very simple code of saying the opposite of what is meant, and widely used by many authority figures and their mindless plebian admirers today. And very simple to decipher.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  181. I think that only East Asians, Iranians, Italians, or Boomers have died, and none of these groups are white, so Lance Welton is still in good shape.

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
  182. Basto says:
    @Just passing through

    Ghengis Khan and his Mongolian and Chinese troops conquered and ruled Persia, spreading their DNA.in the process, it could be the case that the Iranian population has a significantly higher than average percentage of men with a sizably increased number of Ace2 receptors in their lung tissue as Chinese men do.

  183. Basto says:
    @l'Omnivore Sobriquet

    Could he have had Eastern European or Russian ancestry?

  184. Spanky says:
    @Krixxx

    Without generalized testing, there is little way of knowing either the virus’s spread or mortality within a population without ready access to healthcare. As far as severe cases are concerned, are CT scanners common throughout Africa? If not, then there will be little useful data about the infection’s scope in dark continent, Wakanda notwithstanding.

  185. @UK

    The WHO just like the CDC has been accused of corruption by former employees and the CDC is known to have grossly exaggerated the number of flu deaths in the US as it , and its foundation , has a vested interest in selling(worthless?) flu shots .I believe in one year the CDC reported 36,000 deaths from the flu when ,after analysis ,it was determined there were only about 180 such deaths . At present there is no reliable and accurate test for COVID-19 in the field , so how can you trust the number of cases being reported in the mainstream media . The Coronavirus is another strain of the flu , the flu season in the Northern hemisphere usually ends in April so hopefully the hysteria over COVID-19 will be over within 60 days, if not sooner . Big pharma is going to make billions of dollars before this and the rest of the agenda plays out .

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @UK
  186. Alfred says:
    @UK

    As any fule kno, anti-biotics don’t treat viral infections

    Your knowledge on the matter is as limited as your spelling. 🙂

    Bacteria were the real killers in 1918 flu pandemic (New Scientist)

    • Replies: @UK
  187. Anon[385] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    What about age???
    I know of a 4 yr old with super mild case in Spain. How many chinese children dead? That would make the virus stranger, and imply the possibility of reeducation by breaking the chain of transmission of a given culture. (Yes, it sounds far-fetched.)

  188. “Maybe this is why so many white females are trying to mate with black guys. They instinctively know the offspring will stand a better chance of survival.”

    Let’s look at that, in comparison to Asian females mating with whites. On the biological level, the Asian female is capitalizing on obtaining a genetic foothold in the white world for her offspring. At the very least, that child can leverage white heritage, which is highly regarded by many non-whites.

    A white female who mates with a black is going to have a mulatto child. In the real world, mulatto children don’t fair all that well compared to full whites(Obama was an exception). Her genetic choice is heavily dependent on a progressive liberal social order which protects and elevates blacks. That type of world is artificial and can’t be counted on to offset the inherent disadvantages.

    Race mixing is hit or miss on whether the child will have life-long good health, which is the key to genetic success. Mixed race children have greater risk of psychological and physical issues.

    • Agree: mark green
  189. @AnonFromBeijing

    China virus – planted, Iran virus – planted but modified. Also viruses evolve rapidly.
    Latest China has controlled it very few new cases each day, almost zero.
    And..https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/06/covid-19-an-american-bio-weapon-aimed-at-iran-and-china-irgc-chief/

  190. @Thomasina

    Now this is interesting. If true, it would explain why northern Italy has been hit so hard.

    Oh, it is true and well known and well reported for quite some time now. The German handelsblatt had a long article out about the Chinese work-force in Italy, and in it, they stated, that there were 2300 Chinese businesses (!) in Northern Italy in 2018.

    I did post a google translate version of this article about two weeks back – you can find it in my comments quite easily. 

    Or here in German a longer quote from the handelsblatt:

    Die unheimliche Toskana-FraktionSeite 2 von 3:„Pronto Moda“ heißt diese Erfindung: italienische Mode zu chinesischen Preisen und das Ganze auch noch schnell lieferbar. Denn die Chinesen produzieren vor Ort. Die Abnehmer, darunter Händler aus Italien, Deutschland, Spanien und Frankreich, müssen nicht wochenlang darauf warten, dass Container aus China nach Europa geschifft werden. Und auch Einfuhrzölle fallen nicht an.Mehr als 2 500 chinesische Textilunternehmen waren im vergangenen Jahr allein in Prato gemeldet – fast doppelt so viele wie noch drei Jahre zuvor. Und einige von ihnen bereiten bereits die nächste Revolution vor: den Schritt in das teurere und margenträchtigere Segment, wie es Xu Qiu Lin vormacht.Vor 20 Jahren ist er nach Italien gekommen. „Als jüngstes von vier Kindern war im elterlichen Unternehmen in Wenzhou kein Platz für mich“, erzählt er. Und so hat er seine Koffer gepackt und sich auf den Weg nach Prato gemacht, wo er auf die Unterstützung seiner Landsleute zählen konnte. Heute ist er der erste Chinese unter den Mitgliedern des Industrieverbands Confindustria, der italienischen Version des BDI.

  191. @Tom Welsh

    And Italy (along with much of Europe) is absolutely jammed with Chinese and Korean tourists. So much so that I really don’t like visiting so much anymore.

    Add to this the recurrent flood of African and Arab “refugees” and the world’s most beautiful, advanced countries are rapidly becoming trash heaps.

    It’s not just the tragedy of our age, it’s the crime of our age. Because it’s deliberate.

  192. Skeptikal says:
    @dogbumbreath

    Yes, my mother, born during wartime in Berlin, suffered from rickets. Even though her family was relatively well off, there were food shortages.
    All of her beautiful hair fell out.

  193. Skeptikal says:
    @Mr McKenna

    JohnPlywood is dependably pugnacious.
    Esp. when it comes to asserting and defending his ethnic theories.

  194. STILL no Germans or Nordics dead.

    The Meds and the Eternal Anglos aren’t really white, to say nothing of the Amerimutts.

    CHAD Welton going strong!

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @Gleimhart Mantooso
  195. UK says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Absolutely. They only find a tiny fraction of the minor or symptomless cases because of course…but their interest is not so much to lie as to deceive by reporting the stats blandly, it boosts their importance.

    Yet more morally defunct cretins…

  196. UK says:
    @Alfred

    Not a fan of Molesworth? No worries. You made a fair point, a co-infection is possible.

  197. UK says:
    @Ron Unz

    That naturally makes reasonable people quite suspicious, especially given the serious bioweapon possibility.

    Come down from crazy mountain.

  198. @Commentator Mike

    Phew! And I thought he might have been concentrating on multiplying little Africans….

  199. @Mr McKenna

    I would agree. But see his reply.

  200. @Tor597

    Oh gawd.

    The virus in Iran is likely modified to target Persians.

    According to all of the evidence you failed to provide to support your assertion.

    This way the Anglo-Zionists eliminate their 2 biggest competitors going forward.

    LOL

  201. Whitewolf says:
    @Thomasina

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/06/fake-fake-senior-chinese-leader-heckled-by-residents-on-visit-to-coronavirus-epicentre

    When the msm (aka The Ministry of Truth) is going on non-stop about anything you can bet there is an agenda behind it.

    One article was claiming that air pollution in China was significantly down since the coronavirus hype started. A check on an air pollution site going back day by day for a month showed no discernible change.

  202. @Skeptikal

    HBD – Human Bio Diversity

    • Replies: @mark green
  203. Whitewolf says:
    @Thomasina

    Why do these diseases always originate in Asia?

    Huge populations living in close proximity to each other combined with Asian sanitary standards. Maybe the fact that they’ll eat anything that moves also contributes to it.

    Many a traveller to Asia has succumbed to a strange sickness after drinking their water or eating suspect food (especially from street vendors). This is what Asians live with 24/7. They have to boil their tap water before they can drink it. When your water supply is that bad it has a trickle down effect.

    • Replies: @Biff
  204. @polistra

    A lot of it appears to be “our” media playing the story up in hopes of intentionally tanking the market and with luck the economy… this will be their cudgel to finish off the orange man by denying his proudest “accomplishment”. Then a democrat president can finalize (((the long dreamt of))) disinheritance of white christians in their own country.

    A lot of people on the right (being fed up with the neoliberal zionist status quo) seem to just love the concept of a good happening and are consequently absolutely giddy about the prospect of a horrific global pandemic. One way to see how emotionally driven this contrary impulse is… tell a doomsayer that maybe things won’t be that bad. They’ll act terrifically hurt and disappointed… actually outraged at the mere possibility that world war Z isn’t starting and millions of untimely deaths aren’t on the horizon.

    So it’s a rare case where the left and the right are working together to try to do the sensationalist bit on the normies. Meanwhile no one has credibly explained how or why this virus is appreciably worse than the regular ol’ flu. If you’re 80 and that anxious about your mortality, you probably need some ol’ time religion, not a new vaccine.

    The only contrary evidence seems to be the odd behavior of China, which is indeed strange. But chinese so inscrutabuhr! By our lights a LOT of things chinese do don’t make any sense. I imagine people here have seen the empty cities they build? Their odd fixation on taiwan and tiger penis? The fact that chinese women happily marry our goofiest nerds? Is the fact that they’ve gone all out mandating quarantines really that out of character?

    If this all blows over as it appears likely to, and as all the similar scares have done, will the happening expecters eat crow (or bat, which looks pretty similar)? If we all are crawling around as horrific lepers in a post apocalyptic wasteland run by chinese umbrella corp – I’ll promise to gasp out my apologies with my corona ravaged lungs.

    I mean MAYBE, but I dunno guys. I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but you and your family may survive this one.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  205. Escher says:

    I don’t know. African health statistics are probably not very reliable, and the number of deaths worldwide is so low that it may not make much of an impact to an already high death rate from local diseases.
    Ditto for India.

  206. Poco says:

    Just more fad sickness. Best ignored. Oh no. 10,000 people got sick out of 7 billion. Ptooi. Stupid.

  207. peterAUS says:
    @Anonymousse

    The only contrary evidence seems to be the odd behavior of China, which is indeed strange.

    Not necessarily.

    If their economic growth is slowing down they can’t blame it on the system. Party is always right.

    Enter the virus.

    Plus, such systems have a tendency to overreact. At the expense of lower strata of society, of course.
    It would be interesting to see, exactly, how many high level apparatchiks died from the virus.
    I suspect none.

    If this all blows over as it appears likely to, and as all the similar scares have done

    we will have learnt nothing, as before.

    This exercise just proved some, uncomfortable, facts.

  208. Biff says:
    @Whitewolf

    Huge populations living in close proximity to each other combined with Asian sanitary standards. Maybe the fact that they’ll eat anything that moves also contributes to it.

    Many a traveller to Asia has succumbed to a strange sickness after drinking their water or eating suspect food (especially from street vendors). This is what Asians live with 24/7. They have to boil their tap water before they can drink it. When your water supply is that bad it has a trickle down effect.

    I think it has been mentioned several times but I’ll give it a once over – East Asia has relatively good sanitary standards compared to other places such as India, Africa, and everything south of Dallas Texas. Yet no pandemic viruses suddenly appear out of Mexico City(try drinking their water vs China – I dare you). Crowded yes, but so is Houston.

  209. jay says:

    What about the study that apparently shows smoking increasing ACE2 receptors?

  210. Anon[289] • Disclaimer says:

    A lot of Italians over 80 have perished!

  211. @Anatoly Karlin

    If only bare proclamations were true by their having been merely asserted.

  212. anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:

    i read that common household tinfoil will protect you from Covid-19, if you wrap it around your head, especially the top part. CDC recommends to leave openings for vision and respiration.

  213. @polistra

    In Africa, things are real far apart. We are building a passable telecommunications industry, but the only reason we are progressing fast with optical fibre, is because our economies have been stripped to the point where we steal copper wires to put food on the table. Most of us still don’t have, or need 4G phones, GPRS and EDGE (before 2G) is still in common use. We are still rolling out 4G/LTE, and 5G will only ever be available in major cities, where customer density justifies it.
    Once Musk has covered the firmament in microwave tranceivers, we may see a sudden rise in African immune diseases. Wuhan, on the other side, contains more people than my entire country, in a space smaller than our smallest province, and proud consumers of one of the first complete 5G networks in the world.
    On the other hand, the Yanks did announce last year their intention to release a “deactivated flu virus” upon an urban population for the purpose of studying the spread of an epidemic. I find it strange that nobody remembers that… I believe that ‘harmless’ virus was called SARS-cov-2 or sumpfink?

  214. @Intelligent Dasein

    When are you going to just openly deny evolution? Even then, I wonder if you will double down and say evolution doesn’t exist for anything, not just humans, because that is the only way your world view can be consistent. Consistently retarded, but consistent none the less.

  215. @Commentator Mike

    HBD – Human Bio Diversity

    (i.e., innate and significant genetic differences between various human populations)

    Warning: noticing or affirming a belief in human bio-diversity can produce social problems. Isolation. Stigma. Defamation. Loss of job and/or income.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  216. melpol says:

    Nursing homes and prisons have been decimated by the Virus, it is a Godsend to haters of the unproductive. One long term mentally ill patient in SK died from the Virus. It was causing the taxpayers 30 thousand annually to keep him alive. Who weeps for his death?

  217. Juzi says:

    realistically speaking the paper references only 8 donors. The sample size is way too small.

  218. Tor597 says:

    40% of Iran’s population will be affected within 2 weeks.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/40-tehrans-population-be-infected-2-weeks-health-official-predicts

    This is likely what they expected to see in China happen, but China was more competent in stopping this kind of attack.

  219. @Just passing through

    Those devil Orientals: Engineered a virus in China – that kills old Italians in Lombardy. Genius!!

  220. @mark green

    It’s a world full of hypocrisy. Surely those leftists and authorities recognise it as why affirmative action, positive discrimination, safe spaces, etc.? They obsess about it and are extremely sensitive to it but just won’t say it openly.

  221. 224.Tor597 says:

    ‘40% of Iran’s population will be affected within 2 weeks.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/40-tehrans-population-be-infected-2-weeks-health-official-predicts

    No reflection on you, but such a result is practically, logistically, and statistically impossible.

    Zero Hedge is losing (or has lost) its mind. There was a time when that site published bits of economic information that was mostly credible, and sometimes useful. Those days are gone. Recently, and increasingly, Zero Hedge is publishing content that deserves only ridicule, with nonsensical and even downright stupid conclusions most often drawn from nothing at all in the real world.

    I think someone should out this “Tyler Durden” and expose him for the fool he is.

  222. Sam J. says:
    @Montefrío

    “…“selective pigmentation disease”…”

    This is funny. On a site now banned by robertlindsay a guy was going on and on about Whites being Albinos and how awful that was so I, taking his lead, observed with these comments.

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com

    GulliverFredrich, “…No but you could very easily find the heaps of genetic evidence that consistently prove that Whites and modern Europeans are albino’s. The evidence and everything is right there in front of your eyes and it’s becoming genetically irrefutable now as more and more genomic advances are being made….”

    Reply
    Sam J., Maybe this makes White people better than everyone else. All that energy put into useless pigments. Pigments clogging up the body. Like brown sludge. Like ugly Women who cake on makeup to cover their flaws.Thank God I don’t have this sludge packed into my body.

    Maybe we should call all un-albinoed the sludge people?

    Maybe lack of albinoism is a back up of waste that turns brown as it rots?

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com

    GulliverFredrich,“…What is so important about white skin?…”

    Reply
    Well as GulliverFredrich says,”…you could very easily find the heaps of genetic evidence that consistently prove that Whites and modern Europeans are albino’s…”

    Sam J., Now I thought this was stupid at first but after a little thought I realized he was right. That the albinoazation of Whites is a reaction to all the pigmentation sludge in the cells. I mean who wants all this useless pigmentation when White albinos seem to do just fine without it? Maybe we have to use a little suntan lotion on occasion but that’s hardly a problem compared to the mass of pigmentation sludge filling up the cells with God knows what. So the real answer is not for Whites to become full of sludge. It’s for everyone else to get rid of theirs and become albinos like the Whites.

    It sure is good you have me around. Think of the damage you would cause without my wise council. You’d have the whole world’s population so full of sludge they would become lethargic.

    https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com

    “…the degenerate culture caused the downfall of blacks, not integration…”

    Reply
    Sam J., I don’t know GulliverFredrich’s brilliant theory on the Albinoism of Whites may be the key. Could it be the huge build up of skin pigment sludge?

    You know I can get really mad at times but it takes a while. It slowly builds up. Blacks seem to get angry immediately. Maybe with White people (Albinos) there’s room for some of the angry hormone to dissipate but Blacks there’s no room because of all the pigment sludge. Hence the anger hormone goes right to the nerves. I’m really warming up to this “Whites are Albinos” theory. It’s got me really thinking!

    Any of you reading this that feel like it are free to use this brilliant theory of GulliverFredrich that Whites are Albinos and my observations on the results of this for the betterment of Mankind.

  223. Sam J. says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Ok so there’s a lot of variations. Asking a simple question. If it has portions of the AIDS virus on it and it’s so easy to recombine then why hasn’t this portion of the AIDS virus hopped to other viruses before? The Gay population was a stew of viruses, why didn’t this recombine with the stew???? And how the hell did this AIDS portion get in bats or whatever animal????

  224. anon[296] • Disclaimer says:

    You can’t predict or extrapolate anything about Wall Street- banking- Fed and pandemic. Best is to wait and then explain what has happened months or years ago.

    Corona virus is screwing Europe now. The affected are white Caucasian,

    Dow future was don by 2000 ,so something has to be done by the invisible hand of Adam. It has now been taken care ( future down 1000) of while someone on Bloomberg has been insisting on some cures like working interest rate like access to liquidity since interest rate can’t be cut. Is she trying to say “ give helicopter money” to Wall Street .?
    Snake charmer is running out of words . They have long ago run out of ideas.

    As usual , West is blaming China for concealing Corona while doing everything bad that even,China has not done.

  225. Pheasant says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    It means that if you are a Chinese citizen and a Chinese official finds out they will tear up your (Chinese) passport in front of you or otherwise cancel your citizenship.

    Having said that I have no doubt that many Chinese are secretly dual nationals.

  226. Greg West says:
    @l'Omnivore Sobriquet

    There is a whole lot of ‘Eastern’ DNA in the European gene pool.
    Why? History.

  227. Caterina says: • Website

    Are you saying the dead in WA state all appear to be of Chinese background? I don’t believe you. Got their photos?

  228. Since 80-85% of the people who get the virus just get the sniffles, the issue you Sherlocks need to be investigating is what population is most vulnerable to cytokine storms.

    Cytokine storm is what kills people and fills ICUs.

    Cron’s research has shown that cytokine storm syndrome is much more common than previously thought — as is the number of people at risk. …

    Some 10% to 15% of the population may carry these mutations, according to Cron’s calculations. Unlike infants, who tend to have two bad copies of one of the 10+ perforin-associated genes, these people have one mutated copy and one normal copy.

    https://www.uab.edu/reporter/know-more/publications/item/8909-here-s-a-playbook-for-stopping-deadly-cytokine-storm-syndrome

  229. @KA

    That’s not the reason for Northern Italy being hit. If you have been to Venice for example, you would know there is a large population of Chinese immigrants that own businesses and work and live in that area. Also just north of Venice around Lago de Garda is where many retired Italians live. Its a beautiful area suited for retirement living. Remember, the average age of deaths in Italy is 81 yrs old.

  230. @Thomasina

    Spanish Flu was just after WW1. The World’s food supply was disrupted for 4 years. People were on food rations and were under a lot of stress due to War. Naturally many people had poor immune system health due to lack of adequate nutrition, sanitation and stress. Also, highest amounts of death during Spanish Flu was during winter months of January and February. Low vitamin D effects immune system response. One thing most people don’t consider is during Spanish Flu, many doctors prescribed Aspirin. This resulted in aspirin toxicity causing swelling of the lungs and brain and leading to death by virus. Under normal conditions, I doubt the Spanish Flu would be any different than seasonal influenza.

  231. This article aged so well, man.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
  232. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    No Inuit deaths yet! Lance Welton confirmed, Inuits are the only real whites.

  233. anon[401] • Disclaimer says:

    That the virus (apart from the Chinese) mostly targets Italians and Iranians while other Europeans are much less affected should not surprise anyone.

    Many Iranians have a significant Middle Eastern (Syrian) component and Italians, of course, have a significant Middle-Eastern component as well:

    About ninety per cent of those people living in Italy in the 1st century had originally come from the eastern parts of the Roman Empire.
    The ex-slaves, now freedmen, who made names for themselves were generally from Syrian or eastern extraction.
    By the 1st century, the vast majority of free Italians were now ex-slaves or descendants of ex-slaves. Frank concludes, “By far the larger part (perhaps ninety per cent) had eastern blood in their veins” (Frank, “Race Mixture in the Roman Empire,” p.690).
    – The Race Change in Western Europe http://www.askelm.com/people/peo011.htm

    It is probable that when these men wrote a very small percentage of the free plebians on the streets of Rome could prove unmixed Italian descent. By far the larger part ― perhaps ninety percent ― had eastern blood in their veins.”
    – Frank, “Race Mixture in the Roman Empire,” pp.689–690:

    “Therefore,.. this at once implies that the east was the source of most of them… In his list of slaves that specify their origin as being outside Italy [during the empire], by far the larger portion came from the east, especially from Syria and the provinces of Asia Minor, with some from Egypt and Africa [which for racial classification may be taken with the east].
    – Frank, “Race Mixture in the Roman Empire,” pp.700–701

  234. Puffdaddy says:

    I guess you’re wrong. Why not write another article?

  235. So, “Lance Welton” no longer gets column inches here, right?

  236. TT says:
    @anon

    Spanish Flu of 1918 Was Really a Bioterror Attack on Humanity by US. Did a US Military Experimental Vaccine in 1918 Kill 50-100 Million People Blamed as “Spanish Flu”?
    http://themillenniumreport.com/2018/11/spanish-flu-of-1918-was-really-a-bioterror-attack-on-humanity/

    1918, US experimented and sent its infected soldiers to Europe war frontline to spread, killing 50~100M. When Spain detected and spoke out, US stick a name on it. For next 100yrs, it was known as “Spanish Flu”.

    Now you want to even whitewash history and change it to Chinese Flu with shameless lies, anon?

    2009, 90 yrs later, US again dev and spread H1N1 virus to the world, infecting 60M and killing over 300k. But the world suffer silently no one want to speak out, so US has no nation to stick a name, its now called “Swine Flu” instead of “American Flu”.

    2019, hundred yrs later US again dev and spread 2019-nCov virus (coincidentally this name was exactly used by Event 201). China detected and speak out, so US Trumps is now trying to stick a name on it, “Chinese Flu”.

    If Iran speak out first, its called “Persian Flu”, if Italy speak out first, its “Romans Flu”. Now collect your 5rupees.

  237. TT says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Someone send me a table of data presenting nations (ethnic) infections vs death by Disqus.

    The data significantly pointed out the fatality of race is focusing on three race:

    Chinese 4%
    Persian 6.5%
    Romans 7.9%
    White vikings anglosaxons 0.1~0.28%
    Others 0.1~0.3%

    Chinese is bad, Persian is evil. But Italian is disobedient for joining BRI and Huawei 5G against US repeated warning.

    If its not race targeting, we will be seeing something like:

    India 800M infected, 30M deaths. People dying like dropping flies everywhere.
    400M Indians are living in crowded slums of open cesspits, 750M defecating outdoor, 90% polluted cities have no sewage treatment polluting all water sources. They clean their arsh by hand using common puddle of dirty water outdoor and eat/serve food with hand. Its healthcare is utter broken. All these are ideal for quick outbreak and deaths, yet we only hear 151 infections, 3 deaths.

    India siblings Bangladesh 100M, Pak 200M, Africa 1.2B, Brazil 160M, Indonesia 230M, Philippines 100M, Mexico 100M, …will all see similar explosive infections & deaths by now with similar slums & broken medical system. But none.

    Even they might be too poor to test, sudden spike in ICU with lung failures will still send alarm. Yet Nil.

    When i about to copy the data to repost here, it was deleted as spam strangely. The sender tried to resent, but was deleted and attacked continuously to deny him resent.

    He said similar posting in other sites experienced immediate deletion. His data must have truly touch someone’s nerve in CIA-Mossad.

    Now he will be silent for a while in social media. No more response.

  238. TT says:
    @Polymath

    My American friend who has been teaching in China for the last 3 years tells me that “Wuhan crematoria all operating 24-7 and backlogged” is commonly accepted as true in her city. Apparently each one can handle a couple of hundred bodies a day and there are over a dozen of them. You do the math.

    Did you American friend also said he saw the COVID virus was as large as bullock cart? He needs polish up his propaganda.

    At least ZeroHedge tried to fake claimed 127 daily corpse cremation, while other claim with open burning of hundreds thousands corpse at Wuhan outskirts.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/does-sudden-surge-so2-levels-suggest-huge-surge-cremations-across-china

    A common sense will tell you a crematorium can only burn a dozen bodies at once, requiring 6hrs. At 24hrs nonstop 4 shift, its at most 12 x 4=48. A dozen crematoriums will be a reasonable 500/day capacity for a 11M Wuhan city (1.65% annual death rate)

    Your friend story of 200 x 12=2400/day. This is 876k (8% annual death rate). Which insane gov will plan such capacity?

    2.4k x 30days x 2mths =144k corpse burning with 80k infections. While other illness will continue to see more deaths than COVID, but the extra 140k is just too many to believe.

    But ZeroHedge, Taiwan site and CIA mouthpiece-Guo Wengui are claiming 50k deaths with 1.5M infections, causing SO2 hike in Wuhan air.

    So may be this CIA propaganda fit your friend story better
    https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/wuhan-crematory-127-yesterday-this-is-4-5-times-normal-rate-hcpFWN-1pEKCzCo26oPXLA

    Each crematorium has as many 24ovens running 4hrs each shift for 24hrs, each day 24 x 6shifts =124 (assume no need cool down and clearing ash). Still shy of 200 your friend boasted.

    Wengui says there are 49 crematoriums in Wuhan, and they’ve been working 24/7 for 17 days.

    One crematorium manager told a Hong Kong reporter that, in normal times, his 24 ovens were lit five days a week for four hours at a time. Now, he said, they have so many corpses to deal with that all the ovens are going around the clock. This suggests the body count must be in the thousands.

    If we redo the calc there are 2,450 to 4,900 unreported deaths per day.

    That would imply 34,300 to 68,600 unreported deaths just in the Wuhan area over the last 2 weeks.

    It implied Wuhan gov is planning well in advanced to able burn 2~5k bodies daily anticipating 6.6~16.5% annual death rate. Wow, in a decade all Chinese will be extinct.

    • LOL: Daniel Chieh
  239. Anon[733] • Disclaimer says:
    @Beavertales

    Why would Asians want to pirate an obvious inferior subpar white gene that rank lowly in all parameters as you bray?

    Are you sure you prefer your children IQ to be retarded lower than 98 instead of Asian 108?
    https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html

    [MORE]

    Rank Country IQ
    1 Hong Kong 108
    1 Singapore 108
    2 South Korea 106
    3 Japan 105
    3 China 105
    4 Taiwan 104
    5 Italy 102
    6 Iceland 101
    6 Mongolia 101
    6 Switzerland 101
    7 Austria 100
    7 Luxembourg 100
    7 Netherlands 100
    7 Norway 100
    7 United Kingdom 100
    8 Belgium 99
    8 Canada 99
    8 Estonia 99
    8 Finland 99
    8 Germany 99
    8 Poland 99
    8 Sweden 99
    9 Andorra 98
    9 Australia 98
    9 Czech Republic 98
    9 Denmark 98
    9 France 98
    9 Hungary 98
    9 Latvia 98
    9 Spain 98
    9 United States 98
    10 Belarus 97
    10 Malta 97
    10 Russia 97
    10 Ukraine 97

    Look where the whites rank vs Asians in PISA. Are you sure you prefer your children to be more inferior stupid?
    https://www.tes.com/news/pisa-glance-global-education-rankings-science-maths-and-reading?amp=

    The reason that many white wealthy men love to married Chinese women because they can’t find a better wives among white women, and these ugly leftover Chinese women are still consider more superior and brighter than freckle pale hairy skin whites. You don’t even find that many beautiful bright Asian women marrying to these wealthy whites.

    And the reason even very poor Asian men seldom want marry white women unless they are very beautiful and highly educated, is because why go for a lower inferior race that look albino pale with cancered spotting hairy skin. And these whites their youth don’t last half as long as Asian.

    Do you still want to have your offspring inherit such white gene, where 50% can’t even read a book while most Asians have literacy of over 97%?
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2016/11/01/hiding-in-plain-sight-the-adult-literacy-crisis/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bb35b54d4851

    According to data from the 2014 U.S. Census Bureau, 21 percent — or nearly 60,000 — of working age adults in the city lack a high school diploma. At the same time, 19 percent of adults cannot read a newspaper, much less complete a job application, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

    The situation is just as worrisome at a national level. Approximately 32 million adults in the United States can’t read, according to the U.S. Department of Education and the National Institute of Literacy. The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development found that 50 percent of U.S. adults can’t read a book written at an eighth-grade level.

    Do you seriously want your children to inherit such poverty white gene?
    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/06/19/heres-how-many-americans-have-nothing-at-all-in-savings.html

    According to a 2016 GOBankingRates survey, 35 percent of all adults in the U.S. have only several hundred dollars in their savings accounts and 34 percent have zero. Only 15 percent have over $10,000 stashed away.

    Sure not many want to get such degenerate white genes, do you?
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2006/05/chris-floyd/hideous-kinky/

    Imagine growing up in a family where every day, father raped daughter, mother tortured son, brother abused brother, sister stole from sister and the whole family murdered neighbors, friends and passing strangers. Imagine the underlying assumptions about life that you would adopt without question in such an atmosphere, how normal the most hideous depravity would seem. If some outsider chanced to ask you about your family’s latest activities, you would spew out perversions as calmly and unthinkingly as a man giving directions to the post office.

    This state of unwitting confession to monstrous crime has been the default mode of the U.S. establishment for many years now.

    And we haven’t touch on high crimes, drug abuse, sex abuse, paedophile, gun violent,…

    So now you know why white wealthy men rather search for even ugly Asians than to marry their owns. When the fox can’t reach the grapes, it said the grapes are sour.

  240. TT says:
    @Ron Unz

    One Chinese article stated for 2003 SARS:

    Infections 8437, Chinese 7960 (96%)
    Deaths 813, Chinese 762 (96%)
    The rest of infected and deaths were also coincidentally mostly Asian.

    One would expect some outbreak in nearby Asean, Africa, India, even West…but it all concentrated on Chinese majority nations: China, Taiwan, HK, Macau, Spore.

    I was in Singapore during its SARS crisis. All infected and deaths are strangely only Chinese ethnic(73% of 3.5M population), no Indians(9%), Malays(15%), Eurasian(3%), expatriates Caucasian & non-Chinese (1.5M out of 5M residents) is infected.

    Do You Know All Coronavirus Victims Appear To Be Chinese? Thought Not!
    https://vdare.com/articles/do-you-know-all-coronavirus-victims-appear-to-be-chinese-thought-not

  241. anastasia says:

    I don’t think that Africa and Central America are participating in this world wide coronavirus pandemic drill. They probably got a dispensation from the WHO because their countries cannot afford financially to participate in it.

  242. Jeremygg5 says:
    @Thomasina

    The coronavirus strain in Italy is different from the one from China, and had been spreading without detection for weeks – dismissed as other diseases. This fits the narrative that the virus originated from the US and had spread worldwide. The Japanese government had also reported of a Japanese couple who caught it from Hawaii, with no Chinese links.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-may-have-been-in-italy-for-weeks-before-it-was-detected

  243. So I take it that Ron Unz has stopped claiming that this racist VDare claptrap was meant to be “provocative”?

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