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Video introduction to this article. (If the video is deleted by Youtube you can find it also here in Bitchute.)

The Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline shows in detail how Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were working for the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad.

Link to Unz.com article
Link to Unz.com article

The timeline generated many comments at Unz.com but surprisingly most of them dealt whether Epstein was a pedophile or not. This despite the overwhelming evidence of pedophilia.

Many have also totally missed – or are afraid to notice – the big picture: Israeli intelligence agencies and especially Mossad seem to be running pedophile rings that blackmail Western political, business and scientific leaders.

Furthermore, it seems that Ghislaine Maxwell was and still is the master mind behind many of these pedophile rings.

One of the reasons Epstein and Ghislaine were able to continue sex trafficking with impunity for so long was the appearance that Epstein was a victim of jealous people and overzealous police. Many people thought that Epstein had only had sex with a 17-year old girl who had lied about her age.

This excuse worked well because in Florida the age of consent is 18 while in most other American states it is 16.

Link to Wikipedia
Link to Wikipedia

Epstein was able to play the martyr by not only claiming that unscrupulous girls had lied their age but also by implying that the age of consent is too high anyway in Florida.

This was also one reason why in New Mexico where Epstein had his Zorro Ranch the officials refused to register him as a sex offender. In New Mexico the age of consent was 16 until in 2018 it was raised to 18.

Furthermore, unlike in many other states, in New Mexico the courts recognize a mistake of age defense.

New Mexico courts recognize a mistake of age defense. The mistake of age defense is basically ”I thought she was 17.” However, this is no guarantee that this defense will work in court. Moreover, the mistake of age is the creation of judges in the absence of a direct statute addressing the defense. State lawmakers may pass a law overriding the courts on this issue at any time. (LegalMatch)

In reality the Epstein-Ghislaine case is not whether it is wrong for an adult to have sex with a 17 year old. Instead it is about many other things such as prostitution, grooming, pedophilia and the exploitation of children.

This all is connected to global politics involving sex trafficking, drug and arms trade, money laundering, Ponzi schemes, spy networks and blackmailing for Mossad.

Epstein’s victims were caught in a web of international spy network that used them as pawns for blackmail operations. The younger the girls were, the more leverage Israel would have over politicians, billionaires and scientists. Thus Epstein and Ghislaine tried to also recruit girls who were well under the age of 16.

What is more, they personally enjoyed having sex with these very young girls. Both Epstein and Ghislaine seem to have been pedophiles who were attracted to prepubescent girls and boys, i.e. small children.

Pedophilia is defined as:

Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] (Wikipedia)

Note that in order to be a pedophile it is enough to have merely occasional sexual attraction to prepubescent, i.e. sexually immature children who have not yet developed secondary sex characteristics, such as breasts.

Julie Brown from Miami Herald notes that Courtney Wild was only 14 when she was recruited into Epstein’s sex ring.

Wild still had braces on her teeth when she was introduced to him in 2002 at the age of 14.

She was fair, petite and slender, blonde and blue-eyed. (emphasis added. Miami Herald)

Link to Miami Herald
Link to Miami Herald

Julie Brown also notes that Epstein preferred girls who were not only white [and non-Jewish] but also appeared prepubescent.

Wild, who later helped recruit other girls, said Epstein preferred girls who were white, appeared prepubescent and those who were easy to manipulate into going further each time. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald)

For Epstein and Ghislaine it was important that the girls at the very least looked like small children. This is obviously why they preferred girls who were under 16.

Courtney Wild told the police that she brought Epstein over 70 girls and they were all under 16.

By the time I was 16, I had probably brought him 70 to 80 girls who were all 14 and 15 years old… (Emphasis added. Miami Herald)

Some girls were even younger. According to the police many were 13 year old.

The girls — mostly 13 to 16 — were lured to his pink waterfront mansion by Wild and other girls, who went to malls, house parties and other places where girls congregated, and told recruits that they could earn $200 to $300 to give a man — Epstein — a massage, according to an unredacted copy of the Palm Beach police investigation obtained by the Herald. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald)

It is also important to note that even 13 was not the minimum age for Epstein and Ghislaine. In fact, there was no limit to how young the girls could be. Both Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell emphasized that the younger the better.

Eventually, she said Maxwell trained her to recruit new girls for Epstein.

“Jeffrey was very particular in the kind of girls he wanted. First off, the younger the better.”

Epstein said that to her, Giuffre claimed, and “Maxwell said that too. During the training and telling me how to do it, she said ‘You always have to go for the youngest-looking ones.’” (Emphasis added. The Daily Beast)

Link to The Daily Beast
Link to The Daily Beast

It seems the primary purpose was not even blackmail since especially Epstein was having sex with these young girls all the time. On some days Epstein was having sex several times a day.

Sex games were more important for Epstein than work. Obviously, he was extremely attracted to these young girls.

Palm Beach multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, 54, was accused of assembling a large, cult-like network of underage girls — with the help of young female recruiters — to coerce into having sex acts behind the walls of his opulent waterfront mansion as often as three times a day, the Town of Palm Beach police found. (Emphasis added. Miami Herald)

In six months, I never saw him do a day’s work,” Ransome told The Telegraph. ”I never saw him work. He was literally sexually abusing us all day long. (Emphasis added. Business Insider)

Link to Business Insider
Link to Business Insider

Ghislaine also seemed to be obsessed with sex. Just like her father, Robert Maxwell she was rumored to be interested in unconventional sex which includes also sex with young children.

As she [Ghislaine] posed for the pics, which ran in a publication meant to promote Sotheby’s vintage fashion collection, she allegedly let slip comments that hinted at a twisted double life.

“She didn’t talk about Epstein, but during the shoot she did tell a story about how she just hosted a dinner party for a number of young girls, and she put dildos at each place setting,” the source said. “Ghislaine then described how during the dinner two guests, who were a couple, began demonstrating how to do the perfect fellatio on a man for all at the table. She was laughing about it.” …

“A friend of mine has a whole theory about her, that Epstein was like her father Robert Maxwell, who himself is believed to have had some strange sexual practices.” (Page Six)

Link to PageSix
Link to PageSix

The Epstein Mossad-Timeline shows how Ghislaine was most probably trained by Mossad to use sex to gather information. That training would not have been too difficult for her since she was hypersexual. Many even considered her a nymphomaniac.

In fact, even many Israeli Jews – who usually have much fewer sexual taboos than puritan English and Americans – were shocked by her raunchy sexuality.

Flirtatious indeed: I understand from a mutual friend that after school she travelled to Israel and visited a kibbutz; she was immediately ostracised by the other girls for making a rather-too-obvious beeline for the Adonis-like lifeguard at the kibbutz pool. Very quickly she got her way, as she would with much in her life. (Tatler. Emphasis added.)

Even Ghislaine’s friend were sometimes shocked by her open sexuality that so often contrasted with her otherwise lady-like behavior and position in high society.

Ghislaine was, added Mason, ‘fantastically entertaining’ and ‘saucy’ – the paper said that she talked openly about sex.

In fact, said another acquaintance who saw her often at parties, she was ‘obsessed by sex. She’s Sphinx-like, mysterious. The last time I saw her, five, 10 years ago, I said what are you up to? And she said “I’m selling this product – stainless-steel mini dumb-bells – that you put up your fanny. For exercising your vaginal muscles, exercise your pelvic floor, learn the Singapore Grip. I’m giving seminars in LA and they all turn up and I tell them, this is how you keep your man.”’ (Tatler. Emphasis added.)

Epstein and Ghislaine were both hypersexual. All kind of sex interested them. Little girls were just part of the menu. Or more specifically, the best – and most profitable – part.

Epstein and Ghislaine were so attracted to young girls that nothing seemed to satisfy them. Perhaps this is why Epstein and Ghislaine created the highly risky sexual pyramid scheme. The girls were offered two alternatives: Either satisfy Epstein and Ghislaine sexually or get more girls to satisfy them.

In this way Epstein and Ghislaine were able to recruit literally hundreds of young girls. However, some of these girls went to the police and the sexual pyramid scheme collapsed.

When Epstein got out of jail in 2009 he had half-learned his lesson: American girls are too risky.

Now Epstein and Ghislaine would only concentrate on East European girls with the help of their Jewish-Ukrainian friend Peter Listerman.

One of the lesser-known shadowy figures linked to Jeffrey Epstein and his sex ring of teenage girls and young women is Ukrainian-born Peter Listerman, who has worked as a businessman and television presenter but is most known for his “match-making” abilities.

What match-making really means is that Listerman procures women, often underage, for the jet-set society to use for sexual purposes. His “clients” include Russian oligarchs and American businessmen and seems to have also included Jeffrey Epstein. (Citizen Truth)

Link to the Citizen Truth.org
Link to the Citizen Truth.org

Listerman has such a bad reputation that he is shunned even in Ukraine!

Tatiana Savchenko, who founded the first modeling school in Odessa, Ukraine explained to the Daily Beast the lengths she had to go to keep Listerman from getting his hands on young women and trafficking them for sex work.

She claimed that he would frequently approach her students and attempt to lure them with promises of a luxurious lifestyle, and that “It took a lot of work to keep him from tricking our teen models in his traps.” (Citizen Truth)

Peter Listerman is the usual suspect. Link to Fishki.net
Peter Listerman is the usual suspect. Link to Fishki.net
Do you think I am kidding? I am Peter Listerman! Link to Fishki.net
Do you think I am kidding? I am Peter Listerman! Link to Fishki.net

Both Epstein and Listerman were attracted to very young girls. Neither even tried to hide it much. In fact, Epstein was quite open about his attraction to tweens.

Just three months ago, as federal prosecutors were closing in with new charges, Mr. Epstein had a conversation with R. Couri Hay, a publicist, about continuing to improve his reputation. Mr. Epstein asserted that what he was convicted of did not constitute pedophilia, said Mr. Hay, who declined to represent him.

The girls he had sex with were “tweens and teens,” Mr. Epstein told him. (The New York Times)

But what is a tween?

Preadolescent is generally defined as those ranging from age 10 to 13 years.[4][6] … While known as preadolescent in psychology, the terms preteen, preteenager or tween are common in everyday use. (Wikipedia)

Epstein was right, of course. What he was convicted of in 2007 did not constitute pedophilia. However, that is precisely one reason why people are so outraged!

Epstein and Ghislaine did not see any problem of recruiting, grooming and having sex also with tweens. And apparently neither did the Justice Department and the FBI led by Robert Mueller!

But it gets even worse. As pointed out in the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline, it seems that Epstein and Ghislaine were after even younger girls.

In 2003 Epstein financed Jean-Luc Brunell’s(?) and Jeff Fuller’s(J) new modelling agency MC2 that seemed to have worked with Peter Listerman.

MC2 obviously refers to the famous Einstein equation E = MC2, the energy-mass equivalence. Equally obviously, E equals Epstein, the energy, whereas the girls equal MC2, the mass energized by Epstein.

Jean-Luc Brunell
Jean-Luc Brunell

Brunell is generally known as the sleaziest man in model business who has long faced accusations that girls were drugged and raped in his employ. Already in the 80s he was the subject of a famous 60 Minutes expose on sexual abuse in the modeling industry

Despite all this – or for the very reason – Epstein invested in MC2 and became particularly close to its founders Brunel and Fuller.

The agency operates in New York, Miami and Tel Aviv. It’s in practice half-Israeli.

Many call Israel the capital of human trafficking and organ harvesting.

Link to Ynet.comLink to Ynet.comLink to Ynet.comLink to Ynet.com
Link to Ynet.com

MC2 concentrates on importing East European girls to Israel and America. The younger the better.

Marina Lynchuk of MC2
Marina Lynchuk of MC2
Lolita Lvola from MC2
Lolita Lvola from MC2
Linta Lapinda from MC2
Linta Lapinda from MC2

Brunel seems to have given 12-year old triplets to Epstein as a birthday present.

’Jeffrey bragged after he met them that they were 12-year-olds and flown over from France because they’re really poor over there, and their parents needed the money or whatever the case is and they were absolutely free to stay and flew out,’ Giuffre said.

She said she saw the three girls with her own eyes and that Epstein had repeatedly described to her how the girls had massaged him and performed oral sex on him. They were flown back to France the next day.

Link to Daily Mail
Link to Daily Mail

It seems that even tweens were not young enough for Epstein.

According to court papers in 2005 Brunel called Epstein and left a message that “he is sending him a 16-year-old Russian girl for purposes of sex”. However, the written message says something even worse.

The message, filed as an exhibit in the case, was written on an office message pad, partly in code, and read: “He [Brunel] has a teacher for you to teach you how to speak Russian. She is 2×8 years old not blonde. Lessons are free and you can have your 1st today if you call.” (New York Post)

Does it mean that two eight year olds are involved? Or does 2 x 8 mean to sex 8 year old? (2=to, x=sex)

Why would the lessons be free and why is it relevant that the ”teacher” is not a blond?

There is no denying that Epstein and Ghislaine sexualised even small children. This became clear in 2005 when police raided Epstein’s Palm Peach mansion.

In one photo that was hanging on the wall a small six or seven year old girl was bending over in a tiny dress. Police blurred out the photo in the video taken during the raid.

Link to The Daily Mail
Link to The Daily Mail

Despite all this only the Russian Television was actively trying to expose Epstein and Ghislaine.

RT aired this video already nine years ago!

The description on the video is even more revealing. It even mentions the 12-year old triplets.

The American TV networks were actively suppressing the story for years.

The American media has also been trying to cover up the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was most probably murdered in his cell. He had to be silenced.

But it gets even worse.

This hung on Ghislaine’s home wall.

NEW YORK CITY, NY – MARCH 13: Atmosphere at Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS at Home of Ghislaine Maxwell on March 13, 2007 in New York City. (Photo by Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan via Getty Images). Link to Getty Images.
NEW YORK CITY, NY – MARCH 13: Atmosphere at Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS at Home of Ghislaine Maxwell on March 13, 2007 in New York City. (Photo by Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan via Getty Images). Link to Getty Images.

The so called artwork seems to be full of pedophile symbols.

Link to Wikileaks.org
Link to Wikileaks.org

The quality of the photos taken at Ghislaine’s home are so good that even more symbols have been found in her artwork.

For some reason the mainstream media has not picked up on this pedophilia angle. No mainstream media journalist has even tried to ask why would Ghislaine have such art and symbols on her home wall.

This despite the fact that Ghislaine is most probably an Israeli superspy just like was her father, Robert Maxwell. She probably has been trained to use sex – including pedophilia – as a tool for blackmail and manipulation.

At the time in Israel females molesting little boys was not even considered rape.

Link to Haaretz.com
Link to Haaretz.com

Nor have mainstream journalists asked where was Ghislaine when Madeline McCann was abducted.

That would not be an unreasonable question since one of the E-Fit images looks a lot like Ghislaine.

Link to Enchanted Life Path.com
Link to Enchanted Life Path.com

Furthermore, two of the E-Fit images (1A, 1B) look like the Podesta brothers. John Podesta was White House Chief of Staff to Bill Clinton and the Chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.

Ghislaine and Epstein were close to the Clintons and the Podesta brothers have been directly linked also to Pizzagate.

Link to Pizzagate Map created by Tuukka Pensala
Link to Pizzagate Map created by Tuukka Pensala

Was Ghislaine helping to run also Pizzagate and other pedophile rings for Mossad?

At least she seems to be perfectly trained to do just that. First, her own hypersexuality, family background and possible training by Mossad made it easy for her to master mind the pedophilia ring she run with Epstein.

Second, Ghislaine and Epstein had all the apparel to help run also other pedophile rings: Lolita express airplanes and helicopters, Zorro Ranch in New Mexico and luxury mansions in New York, Palm Peach and Paris.

Even more importantly they had their own island in the Virgin Islands.

In the 90s Epstein bought Little St. James island from the Virgin islands. It had a mansion which Epstein expanded.

Soon locals started to call it the Pedophile Island.

Little St. James island. Link to Wall Street Journal article
Little St. James island. Link to Wall Street Journal article

The island seems to have tunnels with several underground entrances.

Underground entrance
Underground entrance
Link to Twitter
Link to Twitter

The island also has a strange temple.

We Are Change’s Luke Rudkowski and the Dollar Vigilante’s Jeff Berwick secretly visited the island but were soon chased out.

Ghislaine has a Helicopter Pilot License and often transported quests to the island.

On the weekends in the 1990s, Maxwell would have her Rollerblades FedExed to Epstein’s island in the Caribbean, and said she got her helicopter’s license so she could transport anyone she liked without pilots knowing who they were.

Maxwell also said the island had been completely wired for video; the friend thought that she and Epstein were videotaping everyone on the island as an insurance policy, as blackmail.

A source close to Maxwell says she spoke glibly and confidently about getting girls to sexually service Epstein, saying this was simply what he wanted, and describing the way she’d drive around to spas and trailer parks in Florida to recruit them. She would claim she had a phone job for them, “and you’ll make lots of money, meet everyone, and I’ll change your life.” …

Maxwell had one other thing to tell this woman: “When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, ‘they’re nothing, these girls. They are trash.’” (Emphasis added. Vanity Fair)

Ghislaine was naturally using Epstein’s helicopters. Some of them shared their FAA tail number with a US contractor, Dyncorp. That would have helped Ghislaine and Epstein to fly drugs and children.

FAA records and Epstein’s pilot’s flight manifest indicate that Epstein’s Bell helicopter used the same tail number of N474AW. This was the same tail number used until 2006 by State Department contractor Dyncorp for counter-insurgency operations in Latin America.

The congruence of Epstein’s Bell N474AW and Dincorp’s Bronco N474AW is noteworthy. In 2002, the year Epstein’s aircraft fleet stands accused of flying underage teen girls, some between the ages of 12 and 15, coincided with Dyncorp’s trafficking in underage females between the ages of 12 and 15 from Kosovo and Bosnia in the Balkans.

One Dyncorp whistleblower reported to The Washington Times’s Insight magazine’s Kelly O’Meara in 2002 the following on one Dyncorp employee in Bosnia:

[he] owned a girl who couldn’t have been more than 14 years old. It’s a sick sight anyway to see any grown man [having sex] with a child, but to see some 45-year-old man who weights 400 pounds with a little girl, it just makes you sick.”

Tail number N474AW has been shared between Epstein’s Bell helicopter like the one in this photo. (Emphasis added. Political Bull Pen)

DynCorp’s pedophilia ring became internationally infamous with the release of the movie Whistleblower.

Link to Wikipedia
Link to Wikipedia

Helicopters can always be seen. However, Ghislaine also has a license to operate submarines!

In 2012 – three years after Epstein got out of jail – Maxwell founded The TerraMar Project,[51] a nonprofit organization that advocated protecting ocean waters.

She gave a lecture for TerraMar at the University of Texas at Dallas and a TED talk, at TEDx Charlottesville in 2014.[52] Maxwell accompanied Stuart Beck(J), a 2013 TerraMar board member, to two United Nations meetings to discuss the project.[17] (Wikipedia)

In 2014, a United Nations event featured Maxwell as a speaker. According to her bio in the program, Maxwell’s “web-based non-profit” aimed “to protect the Oceans by empowering a global community of ocean citizens.” It further described Maxwell as “a private helicopter pilot and an Emergency Medical Technician and a qualified ROV and Deepworker submarine pilot.”

A former Coast Guard officer, Borgerson was also a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, which featured Borgerson and Maxwell as speakers during one 2014 talk titled “Governing the Ocean Commons: Growing Challenges, New Approaches.” Friends of Maxwell, according to The New York Times, said Borgerson became her boyfriend. Maxwell had allegedly described Borgerson as a “Navy SEAL” to her pals.

Maxwell’s dubious charity also roped in the Clinton Global Initiative, the now-defunct networking platform for the Clinton Foundation. In the fall of 2013, CGI named TerraMar as one of the “commitments to action” at their annual meeting. (Emphasis added. Daily Beast)

Did the Pedophile Island have an underground submarine base? Was it a part of global pedophile network?

And was the Ocean Citizens project an attempt to escape national jurisdictions and thus gain at least a partial immunity from police investigations and prosecutions?

Link to TerraMar Project
Link to TerraMar Project

Interestingly, as late as 2016 Epstein bought also the nearby Great St. James Island. He started to build on the island without permits.

There were rumors that he was building underground. For some reason the mainstream media has had no interest in this second island.

Why is the mainstream media not interested in Ghislaine’s many links to pedophilia?

Perhaps because Ghislaine has so many powerful friends. The photo of the pedophile artwork on Ghislaine’s wall was taken 13 March 2007 during a party at Ghislaine’s New York townhouse. The guest list included a curious combination of elite Jews, aristocratic Brits and American WASPs.

Atmosphere==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell. March 13, 2007©Patrick McMullan. Photo-Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to Quick N Dirty
Atmosphere==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell. March 13, 2007©Patrick McMullan. Photo-Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to Quick N Dirty

The party was in Ghislaine’s huge 7000-square-foot townhouse. It is located in the most opulent and prestigious neighborhood of America, the Upper East Side, New York on East 65th Street just off Park Avenue. Epstein’s townhouse was only 10 blocks away.

Ghislaine’s five story townhouse. Link to Street Easy
Ghislaine’s five story townhouse. Link to Street Easy
Ghislaine’s townhouse floor plan. Link to Street Easy
Ghislaine’s townhouse floor plan. Link to Street Easy
Ghislaine’s townhouse 2nd floor gallery. Link to Street Easy
Ghislaine’s townhouse 2nd floor gallery. Link to Street Easy

There are reports from reliable sources that the townhouse was sold in 2000 to Ghislaine by Lynn Forester de Rothschild. The very same woman who had introduced Epstein and Ghislaine to Alan Dershowits and the Clintons in the 90s.

The Manhattan property, which is close to Epstein’s mansion, is owned by Lynn Forester de Rothschild, wife of British financier Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. (See The Times and the original article.)

According to Business Insider Forester sold the townhouse to Ghislaine for less than half the price.

Forester sold the mansion for about $8.5 million less than its assessed market value, which was more than $13.4 million.

Was this a pay-off to Ghislaine from the King of Jews, the Rothschilds for services rendered?

Hillary Clinton, Evelyn de Rothschild, Bill Clinton and Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Link to Mint Press
Hillary Clinton, Evelyn de Rothschild, Bill Clinton and Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Link to Mint Press

It probably is also relevant that at the time of the sale of the townhouse the Prime Minister of Israel was Ehud Barak. In the 80s he had been the head of Aman, the Israeli Military Intelligence Agency. As the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline revealed, both Epstein and Ghislaine worked for the Israeli intelligence agencies already in the 80s during the Iran-Contra operation.

Note that it was around year 2000 that Epstein and Ghislaine started the pedophile operation in earnest. In the 80s and 90s blackmail operations were a side show but now it became the main show involving hundreds of young girls.

Sexual blackmail – especially involving little children – can be an extremely efficient way to influence key politicians and even military officials. A successful blackmail operation can achieve more than several army divisions. No wonder Barak was so close to Epstein and Ghislaine.

Furthermore, in 2000 the president of Israel was Moshe Katsev who was sexually harassing and even raping his female subordinates. Later Katsev would be convicted of rape.

It was also in 2000 when the Israeli Vice-Consul of Rio de Janeiro, Arie Scher and Hebrew language Professor George Schteinberg were running a pedophile ring for Israeli tourists. When the Brasilian police started to investigate the Israeli consulate Scher managed to flee back to Israel.

Link to Rodoh.info
Link to Rodoh.info

In Israel Scher was not prosecuted. Instead in 2005 he was promoted to Consul of Canberra, the capital of Australia. A spokesman for the Israeli Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem, Mark Regev explained:

He [Arie Scher] was a young and single man at the time [in Brazil]. Now he is married and he’s six years older and there is no reason why he shouldn’t make an excellent diplomatic appointment in Australia.

Australia refused to let Scher enter the country.

Link to William Bowles Info
Link to William Bowles Info

The most shocking part of the Arie/Aryeh Scher story is that the mainstream media was not interested. Either the stories have been scrubbed from the internet or no stories were ever written by mainstream journalists except one short story by BBC in 2000 and one even smaller story by The Sydney Morning Herald in 2005. Even more surprisingly Youtube does not seem to have any videos about the Scher case.

No wonder Barak was absolutely convinced that the Western mainstream media would never dare to criticize Israel and its intelligence agencies. Not even when Mossad was running pedophile rings.

It was probably the Israeli leaders Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak and Moshe Katsev together with the ultra-Zionist Mega Group who made sure Epstein and especially the Maxwell family had not only immunity from prosecution but also all the blackmail apparel necessary including luxury townhouses, airplanes, yachts, submarines, ranch and a private island. All, of course, bugged to the hilt.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak (R) talks to Shimon Peres, Minister of Regional Planning, after Barak’s speech at the opening session of parliament in Jerusalem 30 October 2000. AFP PHOTO / SVEN NACKSTRAND (Photo credit should read SVEN NACKSTRAND/AFP/Getty Images) Link to Getty Images
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak (R) talks to Shimon Peres, Minister of Regional Planning, after Barak’s speech at the opening session of parliament in Jerusalem 30 October 2000. AFP PHOTO / SVEN NACKSTRAND (Photo credit should read SVEN NACKSTRAND/AFP/Getty Images) Link to Getty Images

Here the pedophile artwork at Ghislaine’s New York townhouse can be seen behind Lillian von Staufenberg who in March 2007 together with Ghislaine and Hamish Bowles organized a dinner party in honor of Allegra Hicks. This at a time when Epstein had already been charged with abusing young girls.

Karen Groos, Allegra Hicks, Lillian von Stauffenberg==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell, NYC. March 13, 2007 ©Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to QuickNDirty
Karen Groos, Allegra Hicks, Lillian von Stauffenberg==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell, NYC. March 13, 2007 ©Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to QuickNDirty

Why would Ghislaine have such a suspicious artwork on her wall knowing that it would probably be photographed during the parties?

Why would Ghislaine and her quests take such a huge risk? Or was it a sign meant to be seen? Was Ghislaine flaunting her power?

Ghislaine and her quests seemed to be absolutely sure that the mainstream media would not dare to ask embarrassing questions.

They were right, of course. The mainstream media knows its place.

However, occasionally some courageous mainstream journalist or editor does try to give hints. Some have even reported on Ghislaine’s hyper-sexual reputation and her orgies. It is just that the stories have mostly been scrubbed from the internet.

Fortunately, Whitney Webb from Mintpress has found many of the scrubbed stories. Some of them mention the Mossad connection and others note the orgies. For example, in 2003 a British newspaper, The Evening Standard reported a revealing rumor.

Salacious reports have crossed the Atlantic about Ghislaine hosting bizarre parties at her house to which she invites a dozen or so young girls, then brandishes a whip and teaches them how to improve their sexual techniques.

It seems that Ghislaine was not only a madame to Epstein but also to the ruling elite. This would both explain her popularity and the fact that the media – and especially the American media – dares not to criticize her too much. Not even after her boyfriend Epstein was charged with sex trafficking minors!

Ghislaine’s friends are just too powerful. After the March 2007 party the British Daily Mail newspaper was amazed how Ghislaine could still have attracted such creme de la creme of the highest elite. Even more amazingly, the elite was practically swooning over her.

The night before the party, the hostess [Ghislaine] had been inundated with calls from disgruntled socialites, irked that they hadn’t received an invitation.

The hostess greeted their objections with her customary charm, but remained unmoved. As always, her list had been carefully edited, and she intended it to stay that way.

Among the select few were Hollywood star Matthew Modine, Kennedy family member Mrs Anthony Radziwill, Peggy Siegel, PR consultant to the stars, and Julie Janklow, heir to a literary dynasty.

There was a Rockefeller on the list, as well as the inevitable countesses, billionaires and New York luminaries.

Link to Daily Mail
Link to Daily Mail

The guests at the party included also Renee Rockefeller who is married to Mark Rockefeller, the son of ex-Vice President Nelson Rockefeller and nephew of David Rockefeller.

Allegra Hicks, Renee Rockefeller==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell, NYC. March 13, 2007 ©Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to QuickNDirty
Allegra Hicks, Renee Rockefeller==
Hamish Bowles, Ghislaine Maxwell and Lillian von Stauffenberg dinner for ALLEGRA HICKS. Home of Ghislaine Maxwell, NYC. March 13, 2007 ©Patrick McMullan/Patrick McMullan.com. Link to QuickNDirty

David Rockefeller lived at 146 East on the same 65th Street in the Upper East Side as Ghislaine. They were practically neighbors. Ghislaine would have to walk only two minutes to visit David.

David liked to pose for photos in his Beetle Room next to his favorite Picasso painting depicting a nude child ”prostitute”.

David Rockefeller. Link to Jeffrey Harris Desing.com
David Rockefeller. Link to Jeffrey Harris Desing.com

David was often visited by his close friend Jacob Rothschild, the patriarch of the Rothschild family.

The very same family that got Ghislaine her luxury townhouse next door.

The patriarchs, Jacob Rothschild and David Rockefeller. Link to Jeffrey Harris Design.com
The patriarchs, Jacob Rothschild and David Rockefeller. Link to Jeffrey Harris Design.com

As shown by the Epstein Pedoscandal Mossad Timeline both Epstein and Ghislaine continued to move in the highest circles long after Epstein got out of jail. In fact, only last year Ghislaine was invited to a secret writers’ retreat hosted by the richest man in the world, Jeff Bezos.

Link to The Daily Mail
Link to The Daily Mail

Not only billionaires but also royalty kept in close contact with Ghislaine.

Prince Andrew was recently interviewed by the BBC about his relationship with Epstein, Ghislaine and their sex slave Virginia Roberts.

Amazingly, Andrew claimed she has no recollection of Epstein’s and Ghislaine’s sex slave, Virginia Roberts. This despite the fact that they were photographed together!

Prince Andrew, Virginia Roberts and Ghislaine Maxwell. Link to Daily Mail
Prince Andrew, Virginia Roberts and Ghislaine Maxwell. Link to Daily Mail
Link to The Sun.com
Link to The Sun.com

Hardly anybody believes Andrew. The queen had no choice but to sack his own son.

Link to Daily Mail
Link to Daily Mail

Andrew got sacked because he was caught in a lie.

Andrew claimed he could not have had sex with the 17-year old Virginia in 2001 because he had stayed with the British consul general.

The problem is the consul general does not recall Andrew staying with him.

Link to Daily Mail
Link to Daily Mail

Curiously, most of the mainstream media has forgotten that it was Ghislaine who recruited and manipulated Virginia Roberts to become a sex slave.

Even the BBC forgot this crucial fact despite Andrew mentioning Ghislaine many times during the interview.

Time and again, the Prince invoked his friendship with Maxwell, 57, daughter of disgraced media tycoon Robert Maxwell, as the reason he came into paedophile Epstein’s orbit.

Asked when he last saw Maxwell, Andrew said his last contact was ’earlier this year, funnily enough’, when she ’was here doing some rally’. (Daily Mail)

Andrew claimed to have met Ghislaine last spring. In fact, they met in June just after US prosecutors reopened the case against Epstein.

The Duke of York held a meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell in London two weeks after US prosecutors announced they wanted to reopen their investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. …

The meeting took place on or about June 5, the day before Ms Maxwell took part in a four-day charity motoring rally from London to Monte Carlo.

Did Ghislaine demand that Andrew help make sure that the her own parallel case would not be reopened?

After meeting Andrew she literally disappeared from the face of the earth.

The ex-socialite has not been seen since although rumours have placed her in Brazil, France, the American mid-West and even the UK.

‘No one knows where she is,’ a lawyer for one of Epstein’s victims said last night. ‘She’s done the greatest disappearing act known to man – or woman.’ (Daily Mail)

Link to Daily Mail
Link to Daily Mail

Shockingly, during the BBC interview Prince Andrew mentioned Ghislaine many times and seemed to be proud of their friendship. Despite this the interviewer did not dare to ask questions about their relationship.

Was this a message to all: Leave Ghislaine alone.

Ghislaine is obviously protected not only by the royal family but also by the whole ruling elite. No wonder that she has the Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card.

Ghislaine also tries to protect other Epstein associates.

Link to Daily Mail
Link to Daily Mail

Prince Andrew is now afraid to go to the US.

Five women who accuse Jeffrey Epstein of abusing them say Prince Andrew witnessed how people were given massages at the sex offender’s homes.

The lawyer for the women has told BBC Panorama he plans to serve subpoenas to force the Duke of York to testify as a witness in all five cases.

He says the prince could have important information about sex trafficking. (BBC)

Link to BBC story and video
Link to BBC story and video

The BBC has now finally zoomed in on Ghislaine.

Another Epstein victim, Sarah Ransome told Panorama Ghislaine Maxwell, one of Prince Andrew’s oldest friends, worked hand in hand with Epstein.

”Ghislaine controlled the girls. She was like the Madam,” she said.

”She was like the nuts and bolts of the sex trafficking operation and she would always visit Jeffrey on the island to make sure the girls were doing what they were supposed to be doing.

”She knew what Jeffrey liked. She worked and helped maintain Jeffrey’s standard by intimidation, by intimidating the girls, so this was very much a joint effort.”

Ms Maxwell could not be reached for comment but has previously denied any involvement in or knowledge of Epstein’s abuse. (BBC)

But the American media is still not interested in Ghislaine.

What the American mainstream media always willfully forgets is that Ghislaine Maxwell is the key person and mastermind behind the whole pedo sex trafficking operation.

The key role of Ghislaine is not surprising. After all, her father was an Israeli super spy, Robert Maxwell.

But perhaps this is the very reason why the American media is not interested.

For years Ghislaine has been at the center of a vast pedophile sex trafficking network. But still to this day the American police has never dared to even interview her.

She simply knows too much.

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  1. Trinity says:

    I think the answer to the question in the title of this article is pretty damn obvious to anyone and everyone outside of the controlled media. smdh. Call me crazy, but I wouldn’t be shocked to learn that pervert Jeffrey Epstein is still alive somewhere, not only do I not buy the “suicide story,” but I am not buying he was murdered either. Ghislane described the girls involved in this pedophile ring/honey pot as “trash.” If these girls are or were “trash” than what in the hell does that this demonic witch named Ghislane Maxwell?

  2. Trash article. Lots of useless pictueres, no substantive evidence of anything, just she said-he said. Is this Unz.com or tumblr? Is the alternative media community now gunning for #MeToo?

    I see a lot of scrutiny on Epstein but very little on the ambitious pubescent runts that voluntarily associated with him for free shit. Why would you trust a 14 year old tart’s word?

  3. Also, this comment:

    In fact, even many Israeli Jews – who usually have much fewer sexual taboos than puritan English and Americans

    Is golden. A few facts to attach to it:

    Israel gonorrhea rate: 13 per 100,000

    USA gonorrhea rate: 171 per 100,000

    https://www.fpa.org.uk/factsheets/sexually-transmitted-infections#england

    Chlamydia (genital chlamydial trachomatis) is the most common bacterial STI diagnosed in England (accounting for 46.1% of all STIs diagnosed in 2015). About 70% of infected females and 50% of males will not have any obvious signs or symptoms or they may be so mild they are not noticed.

    In total there were 200,288 chlamydia diagnoses in 2015, a 4% decrease on 2014 (208,638). The rate of new diagnoses was 368.7 per 100,000 population, compared with 384.1 in 2014

  4. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Former Gateway 2000 founder, Ted Waitt, whose mismanagement and business idiocy nevertheless left him with about $800 million dollars, was one of Ghislane Maxwell’s suitors. I met Waitt on several occasions. He spoke like a male version of a Valley Girl and no one I knew who had much contact with him was astonished at all when the company went from 30,000 employees to nonexistence in about three years.

  5. @ Marco de Wit,

    You obviously put a huge amount of time into putting this [and other pieces] together. Regardless what people say, your effort and relentlessness are immensely appreciated.

    We can’t let this slip through the cracks, like too many other cases [how’s Weinstein doing?] and keep it on the front burners at all times.

    Ghislane Maxwell aide, abetted and took part in the sexual abuse of minors [whatever their age]. She, and all the perps who visited the houses, the parties and the islands need to be held accountable for their acts.

    If these people were sick animals [which they are] they would be mercifully culled…

    Of course they will walk free.

    • Agree: utu, Rurik
    • Replies: @annamaria
  6. mastodon says:

    outstanding work.
    thank you

    • Agree: Pheasant, annamaria, TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
  7. bergots [AKA "occupiedPalestine"] says:

    This elites’ sexual abuse narrative is wearing itself thin. Same as the private servers narrative, the Bush’s/bin Laden relationships, the Silverstein’s un named dermatologist, Rahm’s daddy murdering British police, British soldiers, Palestinian civilians and Pelosi’s daddy w a soccer field named after him near Haifa.

    We want them space aliens,; Klingons from Uranus.

    Many thanks!

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  8. This is just the tip of the iceberg of Pizzagate and yes they are all pedos. The reason why there was debate at Unz is because the readers are largely middle-aged males who do not see teen girls as children and who view females as theirs for the taking. Well they are not any man or woman’s for the taking. Moreover the James Alefantis stuff creeped me out FAR far more than this, which is bad enough. We’re talking about babies actually and very young children and so that gets to quite another level. One baby was called in an Alefatis tweet “hotard”, which apparently was meant to mean a cross between “ho” and “retard”. And that’s how they see a BABY. Unbelievable.

    Unz please go there. It’s a big reason Assange went down when he did.

  9. the ”teacher” is not a blond

    The text in the pad doesn’t say “not blond” – it says “nat blond”… nat as in ‘natural‘.

  10. @Trinity

    QUESTION

    This all true but I have to wonder where the parents of these girls were. They are obviously not runaways because someone paid money for their braces and they don’t look malnourished.

    How is it that some whorish-looking 40 year old Jewish woman can hang around white neighborhoods or even public schools trying to lure young girls to the sinister mansions of creepy old perverts and these young girls are willing to go with them?

    What is wrong with their morality? Forget the fact that Epstein and Maxwell are criminals because one of them is dead anyhow.

    Point is, how can 10th grade girls be so debauched that some sinister-looking whorish middle-aged woman can tell them exactly what they are getting into and these girls jump in a car with her.

    What is wrong with the upbringing of blue-collar and lower middle class white girls these days?

    Where were the parents? Why didn’t they say “Hey Mom, some sinister middle-aged prostitute has been hanging around our school/neighborhood/community offering us the opportunity to sell our bodies?”

    And how is it that these young girls decided to participate in ungodly sex acts at the tender age of 15? Why are they behaving this way?

    I should add none of the victims are Jewish. I suspect if some creepy Gentile tried to pull this on Jewish children in Long Island, they would have been reported.

    So how are Jewish children being raised differently?

    Why aren’t Gentiles referring to Jews as trash? Why aren’t Jewish girls participating in these acts?

    What are Jewish parents doing differently?

    Sure, Maxwell is a whore. Porn is filled with Jewish whores. Sarah Silverman is a whore. But these are adult women making a career choice to get into the sex industry.

    Whereas Epstein’s Gentile victims are 10th graders. So why are 10th grade white girls acting this way?

  11. If you want to get a message out it helps to speak concisely. This article is longer than War and Peace and I doubt anyone will read the whole thing. I certainly didn’t.

    There are just 3 questions that honest authorities (cough) need to ask to get to the bottom of it:
    1) Who told Acosta that Epstein was an intelligence asset? This person needs to be interviewed to find out
    2) Whose asset was he?
    3) Hundreds of videos were seized by the FBI (?) allegedly showing sex acts between Epstein clients and females. Since it is likely that many of these videos depict serious crimes it is incumbent on the DOJ to go through them and identify any prominent (or non-prominent) adults engaged in rape and PROSECUTE them. Not to do so would be a serious abridgement of the victims’ rights.
    And if turns out they are obvious blackmail targets we can easily move from there.

    • Replies: @Thekid
    , @Corvinus
  12. Altai says:

    You mentioned MC2 but left out the Wexner connection. Just after Epstein was arrested Victoria’s Secret (Which Wexner owns) announced it was to postpone it’s famous lingerie show for 2019 in order to address feminist criticisms. Then they announced they were hiring their first trans models. After his death they announced they will cancel their shows altogether. One presumes these were moves to keep a lower profile and help stem what they presumed would be increased scrutiny from the connections of their owner with a man with interests in young vulnerable girls.

    Wexner was Epstein’s only identifiable ‘client’ for his mysterious businesses. In reality Wexner was Epstein’s funder, having given him his famous NYC mansion among with much, if not all of his fortune. Why he was funding Epstein is the question.

    Though Victoria’s Secret’s famous top ‘Angel’ models that headline it’s are almost entirely from the West and South America (Often from quite well off backgrounds), the bulk of it’s lower tier models who do most of the work come from Slavic countries and paid quite poorly. They are infamous for supplementing their low and ephemeral modelling income by acting as high class escorts for the super rich. Obviously given the massive amounts of sex trafficking going on in Eastern and South Eastern Europe all modelling agencies operating in those countries and those who do business with them are suspect. Could the entire modelling world have a giant sex abuse and trafficking scandal coming that involves the likes of Epstein? Could the founding of Victoria’s Secret itself have been a part of this whole thing?

    Epstein has already been accused of sexually harassing one women auditioning for Victoria’s Secret in the US (Claiming to be a model scout), obviously Epstein was able to get into these closed professional situations through Wexner.

    It looks like the MSM has also woke up.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/30/victoria-s-secret-most-damaging-appeal-likes-of-jeffrey-epstein

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/victorias-secret-epstein/595507/

    • Replies: @Sean
  13. What the US needs is some sort of federal investigative body such as a federal bureau of investigation.

    • LOL: Durruti, trelane
    • Replies: @DanFromCT
    , @Bill Jones
  14. @Sam Coulton

    I see a lot of scrutiny on Epstein but very little on the ambitious pubescent runts that voluntarily associated with him for free shit. Why would you trust a 14 year old tart’s word?

    Fuck you Sam Coulton! Decent and honourable men don’t see 14 year old girls as tarts to be preyed upon and exploited. Thanks for your candour but what a low-life piece of shit you’ve shown yourself to be.

    • Agree: Denis, Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  15. This jew-pedophile story happens mostly in US.

    Imagine what must happen in the countries of the former extremely poor Soviet Union at the time it fell apart.
    I believe Jews herding pretty underage girls and boys in the porno industry.

    Funny thing is that women and lesbian/feminist organizations ARE AND REMAIN MUTE on those crimes against women. Except of course they cry because Iranian women wearing the burka.

    I would like to ask if we have hear anything about Epstein or Weinstein, if Hillary have won the US election on 2016 .
    Not to mention almost ALL TV networks in US suppressed and hide these MEGA crimes from public eye.
    “Look at Iran they tell us. Its our enemy”.

    • Replies: @Altai
  16. @Sam Coulton

    maybe it’s mostly Blacks and Hispanics not English Puritans.

    • Agree: dc.sunsets
  17. @Sam Coulton

    You were flying with “Lolita Express” sitting next to Clintons?

  18. @NoseytheDuke

    All sane people can agree about sex with children as wrong but…why are so many 14 year old girls utterly bereft of morals?

    When I was in the 10th grade, girls were virgins and did not scramble madly to participate in ungodly sex acts with creepy old men.

    If some dead-eyed sinister-looking whore came to their community or school in 1988 when I was fourteen, few girls would have gone with this woman for money.

    And where were the parents of these young girls? Somebody paid for these girls braces?

    We can all agree that Maxwell should be put in some state pen with STD-riddled black bull dykes but the question is why are young girls acting this way?

  19. Sean says:
    @Altai

    Guiffre has accused Wexner, hoping he will pay her to go away doubt. No prosecutors have used Guiffre as a witness and none will. She said that she was 15 years old when she started working for Epstein, but in has been proven and she now admits she was 17 years old. I don’t see how anyone could make a genuine mistake about something like that. She also said she met the Gores on Epstein’s atoll, but they say they were never there. Sarah Ransome told journalists she had sex tapes involving President Trump and both Bill and Hillary Clinton. A lie.

    ” I never saw him do a day’s work”

    I think it is becoming increasingly clear that Epstein was a world class con man, and not a gifted entrepreneur. He only became wealthy after he found his perfect ‘mark’ in the hapless Wexner and ripped him off for hundreds of millions.

    • Replies: @Altai
    , @annamaria
    , @Alden
  20. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:

    If a federal agent had made 27 flights in Pablo Escobar’s jet to Escobar’s hideout and vacationed every year with his family at Escobar’s ranch, the presumption would obviously be that the agent was complicit with Escobar. In the same way the presumption in any sane world would be Clinton and his organization are very much players in Israel and its fifth column’s nearly complete control of our government using kompromat as the chief tool. If Epstein’s longtime lawyer Dershowitz can interrupt any nighttime news show on Fox News from his studio to spin the Epstein story and excuse Israeli crimes against humanity, the presumption must be Fox News is an arm of organized Jewry working to pull the wool over American’s eyes. In fact, Fox was immediately using its talking heads for misdirection—that decent people could only be interested in justice for the Epstein girls and looking deeper was itself prurient. This is the same diversion used to deflect the overwhelming circumstantial evidence proving Israel and its fifth column’s guilt in 9/11, overwhelming the important details with human interest stories.

    If America were actually a country under the rule of law, Fox’ and the rest of the news outfits’ elaborate efforts at 9/11 concealment would constitute powerful evidence of their guilt, as would their ongoing, elaborate efforts to concealing Israel’s connection with Epstein and the Jewish billionaires of MEGA in a de factor overthrow of the government of the United States. This is the truth Truman spoke about, the unexamined ground of all political, military, and cultural subversion in our country.

    The Holocaust is now down to, what?, less than one million, now that the other East Polish camps can be ruled out as extermination camps for the same reason those on German soil were; namely, sheer impossibility. No decent person doubts that Jews were singled out for horrific treatment by the Nazis or claims that everyday American Jews are guilty by association any more than Italians are guilty of the crimes of the Sicilian mafia, yet the shetl fairytale called the Holocaust never happened and yet America’s school children are terrorized with horror stories to permanently imprint and never question Jewish victimology as the one ontological truth surpassing every other. The question is when the anti-Semitism canard will be trotted out to deflect the truth about Epstein, who, after sifting out the chaff, is probably relaxing on some yacht in Montenegro. But, we don’t need further proof than this country’s policies themselves to realize the federal and state governments like Florida’s are satraps of organized Jewry.

    • Replies: @Patrikios Stetsonis
  21. @Sam Coulton

    Jeffrey? Jeffrey Epstein? Is that you? Where are you hiding out?

  22. Listerman, Vindman… what’s up with the Ukrainians? I can see Ghislaine munching on Hillary while Bubba on top of Lynn Foerster and Evelyn de Rothschild cracking a whip to stop them all…

  23. Vojkan says:

    Something is terribly wrong in the minds of people who are sexually aroused by the sight of children. It is not even about morals. Choosing to or refraining from soliciting or engaging in sexual activity with nominally adult 18yr olds while you are in your forth decade is a decision based on morals. Sexually abusing children isn’t about morals, it’s about being a disgusting irredeemable beast that should be locked and the key destroyed.
    In the course of my work for the news agency SRNA of the Republika Srpska during the 1990s, I have come across information that the CIA, the MI6 and Mossad maintained large databases of paedophile material that they used to plant on unwitting “people of interest” in order to turn them into “assets”.
    Of course, some they didn’t need to entrap, as Bill Clinton, he already had unnatural tendencies and I doubt I was the only one to know it.
    Eventually, the fault is on those who elect such perverts into position of power.

  24. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Coulton

    The US has 40 million negroes and 50 million hispanics. These groups have sky-high std rates. If you want to do a proper study you will need to compare Israel with a white country that has a low non-white population.

    https://www.jpost.com/Local-Israel/Around-Israel/Russian-roulette-Israeli-style

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  25. Trinity says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Like I said before, I personally believe the demonic waste of human flesh known as Jeffrey Epstein is PROBABLY alive and walking around in Israel or Saudi Arabia. Maybe (((they))) put up the flunkie in some other relatively less traveled out of the way place for awhile.

    Do you really have to ask WHY are all the victims White Gentiles? Could it be that these foul smelling turds in the form of human flesh like Epstein and the falsely named Maxwell have been taught by some weird, racist form of religion that it is acceptable to molest and sexually abuse White Gentile females but not Jewish females?

  26. Altai says:
    @Sean

    he found his perfect ‘mark’ in the hapless Wexner and ripped him off for hundreds of millions.

    Over 40 years? Wexner is now out there saying this is what happened to him, even saying that Epstein ‘stole’ the mansion. But if Epstein stole the mansion (An interesting feat to be accomplished, how does one do that without it being very easily legally contested? Surely circa 1990 Wexner had more pull than Epstein) why did he act so buddy-buddy with him for the next 30 years? Why did he keep sending him money? If there’s one thing we can infer about Wexner’s character it is that he probably really loves money, why would he continue over 30 years to give money to a man who ‘stole’ a NYC mansion from him? Why would he continue to act cordially with him and invite him to social events and accept his invitations?

    Why could the con have possibly been to convince him to act like this and what could possibly have been revealed to make him think differently about what Epstein was up to?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Sean
  27. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    Just following the Prophets actions with 8 year olds

  28. Trinity says:

    I am trying to decide which photo is more disgusting here. The one photo showing one of these perverts reaching down another man’s pants to grab his penis or the one with the UNATTRACTIVE AND MANNISH looking Ghislane Maxwell posing in her American flag bikini. BARF. THESE UNSIGHTLY FREAKS ARE IN CHARGE OF THE WORLD in which we live in? These FREAKS are the so-called, “elite?”

    Remember the scene in the Wizard Of Oz where little “Toto” pulls back the curtain and exposes the all powerful Oz as nothing more than an ordinary old man? Well, we are being ruled by a bunch of sick, twisted, TRASHY REJECTS.

  29. Thekid says:
    @jack daniels

    The FBI is a criminal organization that is probably complicit in this whole sordid affair. It’s one of the reasons Epstein and his ilk were allowed to operate this long and Maxwell is allowed to hide out.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
  30. @Altai

    Exactly.
    My dad used to say to me:
    “Son, when you see in a community porn and gambling are flourishing, you know damn well two things are happening. The community is morally rotten to the bone and the Jews are having a party by preying on poor people.

  31. Rurik says:
    @Sam Coulton

    I see a lot of scrutiny on Epstein but very little on the ambitious pubescent runts that voluntarily associated with him for free shit. Why would you trust a 14 year old tart’s word?

    Jerry Sandusky started a ‘charity’ for underprivileged boys called The Second Mile.

    Nobody held a gun to those boy’s heads and forced them to participate in that charity. They went there of their own free will, and just wanted to get all the freebies. They could have stayed home, and spent the summers mowing lawns and helping others, but instead, those selfish, ambitious boys wanted to get free shit, and did so voluntarily.

    So the obvious question is, why is poor Jerry being persecuted for simply doing what these boys wanted?

    They knew what they were getting into, going to that camp to get free shit, and they get all crybaby because Jerry rapes them. Well, what the fuck did they expect?! Huh Sam?

    People act like children don’t have agency, and cry when wealthy and powerful men, (priests and coaches and celebrities) rape them. Well, we all know those boys and girls, like Dennis Hastert’s or Jimmy Savile’s “victims”, all knew the score, huh?

    It’s sort of like what Whoopi said about Polanski “raping” that thirteen year old girl.

    It isn’t ‘rape, rape’, when a wealthy and powerful man drugs and rapes a white trash thirteen year old runt, huh?

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/lachlan-markay/2009/09/29/views-whoopi-goldberg-polanski-it-wasnt-rape-rape

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
  32. Paul says:

    This seems to be an Israeli Mossad operation in order to blackmail Western elites. Israel fears Western support for it is softening.

  33. @Anonymous

    I can agree more than what you just wrote*.
    They are the root of ALL evil

    -University Removes Professor For Assigning Question On Whether Holocaust Happened-
    https://forward.com/fast-forward/435714/university-holocaust-quiz/

    *According to International Red Cross 67.000 (sixty seven thousand) Jews die in the concentration camps in Germany and Poland. Most of them at the end of the war, from hunger and typhus, not to mention how many of them were raped and murdered from the liberating judo-bolshevik Red Army.

  34. It occurs to me that Ghislaine (lovely name) Maxwell has gone to ground in Israel.

    Israel has a bad reputation for ignoring criminals who have gone to ground there. Sometimes in the course of time, the Israelis will extradite or prosecute such criminals. Rabbi Prushinowski who mulcted many millions of dollars from brokerage houses and had gone to ground in Israel was eventually arrested and died in an Israeli prison. In Ghislaine’s case, I suspect she has been granted life-time immunity from extradition or prosecution.

    • Replies: @Patrikios Stetsonis
  35. beet soup says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The questions you ask are excellent.
    If they’re asked as a sort of moral commentary, I’m with you 100%.
    But if you’re asking these questions out of shock and disbelief, I part ways with you there.
    None of the actions of these young women shock me one bit.
    I’m in my 40s, and even in my high school days, ca. 1980s, plenty of girls I met were stoned out of their minds day after day, and would spread their legs for any guy they found vaguely “cute”, and yes, would be inclined to follow along with any “cool” person that promised a little excitement.
    The last few generations of young women were brought up often by sixties/ seventies radical Moms who wanted their young daughters to feel free to act just as decadently as (how they imagined all) guys did. This was feminist ground-claiming in their minds. New heights for the gals. They told their daughters to follow their inner impulses, trust their instincts, blah, blah, blah.

    • Replies: @jack daniels
    , @dc.sunsets
  36. @Sam Coulton

    Blacks.
    Mestizos.
    Faggots.

    Without having to do the math, probably responsible for 97% of STD cases in the USA. Look to the CDC’s website where they endlessly hand-wring about how to reduce gay/black/latino rates of STDs to the “white, hetero norm.”

    Hilariously, this is identical to the “gun crime epidemic” that “afflicts” blacks/browns almost exclusively.

    As with noticing the crimes of Mossad/Maxwell/Clinton/etc., the damned “lies” of statistics are heresy when they conflict with dogma.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  37. Rurik says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    So why are 10th grade white girls acting this way?

    duh

    from Madonna to Hanna Montana to Ariana Grande and all the cultural icons (((Hollywood))) and (((Disney))) use to idolize gutter skanks as role model’s for America’s prepubescent girls.

    The message our (((cultural elites))) hammer into young girls, is that being a skank is great and admirable and something every little girl should aspire to.

    but this is all to be expected in (((Weimar-America)))

    “10-year-old children turned tricks in the railway stations. A group of 14-year-old Russian girls, refugees from the Red Terror in Stalin’s Communist slaughter house, managed to make a lucrative living in Berlin as dominatrices. Little girls were freely available for sex not only in child brothels and pharmacies but could be ordered by telephone and delivered to clients by taxi, like takeaway meals.”

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/the-sexual-decadence-of-weimar-germany/

  38. @Thekid

    Well, there’s the FBI before Barr and the FBI after Barr. I’m thinking Barr can see to it that the FBI does its proper job. I admit I’m being a giddy optimist on this, especially since Barr’s father knew Epstein.

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
    , @chris
  39. Agent76 says:

    Nov 15, 2019 Epstein Updates: The Prince, The President, The Brother And The Meme!!!

    Jeffrey Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself according to his brother, the president of Syria and millions of meme fans who are taking the suicide conspiracy to all new levels reaching a peak as the BBC is set to release a “no holds barred” interview with Prince Andrew of the Royal Family about his ties to the infamous pedophile.

    Nov 30, 2018 How teen runaway Virginia Roberts became one of Jeffrey Epstein’s victims

    Virginia Roberts was working at Mar-a-Lago when she was recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell to be a masseuse to Palm Beach hedge fund manager Jeffrey Epstein. She says she was groomed for sex with him and his associates, attorney Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew.

  40. @beet soup

    Yes, the 1960s were the watershed. As Ben Stein put it, at the beginning of the 60s you were lucky to get a good-night kiss, and by the end of the 60s a date would likely end with intercourse.

    Crime also took off in the late 60s and has never returned to pre-60s rates despite favorable demographic trends.

    The 1960s were the spoliation of America at the hands of a bunch of well-funded radicals.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    , @Anonymouse
  41. Sulu says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The thing that is wrong with their morality is they are Jewish. They see anyone that is not Jewish as an inferior that can be used in any way they wish. When you ask what is wrong with 10th graders that will hop in a car with an old madame I put the blame on the internet and the Jewish porn industry. These young girls see every sex act imaginable online and just can’t wait to grow up and participate in it all. The see nothing wrong with becoming whores for a few hundred dollars a pop. Big money to them at the time. It is only years later they realize that they were used and given almost nothing for the most precious commodity on the planet. Their youth and beauty.

    • Replies: @Alden
  42. Durruti says:

    Is Jeffrey Epstein’s Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite

    Decent question and focus for Marco De Wit to pursue, (as expressed in the title of his article-above).

    MOSSAD runs Pedophile Rings, only to USE them TO CONTROL OTHER GOVERNMENTS, such as America The Political Analysis is KEY.

    However, the information, and guesses (guesses are necessary in investigative Journalism, if they are used to pursue the facts), in De Wit’s excellent essay, open the door to a more important question.

    Just what was the purpose, the real mission of the MOSSAD Maxwell, Epstein, Ehud Barak, certain Rothschilds, the Clintons, and Obomber – performed by them in the United States of America?

    The Answer to the above question underlines the True Position of the American people in 2019, and is the Key to understanding our unfortunate Predicament.

    De Wit opens the door, but refuses to enter the room, (and those desiring to understand the actual Job Description of the above MOSSAD operatives, are few, and are not published).

    The MOSSAD Maxwells, Epsteins, Dershowitzes, Rockefellers, and Clintons, and others, operated for more than 3 decades, a Shadow American Government. This/Their government Controlled American Financial Policy, Military Policy, and an ever increasing portion of American Domestic Policy.

    The Zionist Mainstream Media, Hollywood, Education, operate in synch with the Shadow Government. As Orwell revealed, Brainwashing is a component part of control over We-The People.

    American Patriots, my friends on this forum, What Could Be More Obvious?

    At the time the shadow Government was de-commissioned, as it was no longer necessary, (as, in 2019, the American Government is totally under the operational control of Foreign Zionist Oligarchs), 72 Junior Knesset/Congress people, out of a total of 537 (last count), were in the Zionist Mordor, worshipping their new masters, some receiving implants, others genuflecting at the Roman ‘Wailing’ Wall, and some enjoying Anal.

    We Americans Are Slaves! All our children are at their mercy. An American Elementary School Principal, who objected to a Foreign Power brainwashing American Children about the ‘Holocaust’ was quickly fired. The American Mainstream Media cheers on the repression (or ignored it) on cue.

    This Shadow Government (foreign Zionist takeover of America) began much earlier, but assumed solid form after the Coup De’tat of November 22, 1963, when our Sovereignty and our last Constitutional President, John F. Kennedy, were assassinated, in a hail of bullets.

    That violent act, and the millions murdered since, from 9/11, the Liberty, to Vietnam, to Afghanistan, to Palestine and Syria, and many other countries, displayed the true Terrorist essence of Our Overlords. Their patterns of rule have not change since they exterminated the nation of Jericho.

    Friends, try some porn, (or even being meeting some sweet member of the opposite gender), to satisfy your sexual urges. But, do not forget the Political Equation. Do not forget Your Country, Your People, are in great need. We Slaves must regain our Freedom! Our Nation must be Reborn again! I believe Padraic Pearse wrote that.

    Let us Restore Our Republic!

    Durruti

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  43. Pheasant says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    ‘Why aren’t Gentiles referring to Jews as trash? Why aren’t Jewish girls participating in these acts?’

    Before political correctness Jewess was a synonym for prostitute.

    You as usual are full of shit.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @El Dato
  44. Anne Lid says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I see that Rurik has answered you already. Jewish people were not destroyed in their identity as much as us, Christian white goyim. A Jewish kid has more confidence in her worth. I cannot be sure but I guess none or very few of the Epstein girls had normal father+sane mother combos. Yes, they had families, but they were either broken or there was substance abuse. Teenage girls want validation, if they don’t get it from their parents, they will look elsewhere. The culture is saturated with sex, so they think they have value as sex kittens. Along comes a smooth talker, expert manipulator Maxwell, and they are ripe for the taking. Some kabbalists think that if you can cut the spiritual roots of a people, the branches, the actual people will wither. As above, so below.

  45. @Durruti

    Americans won’t do shit, they are just a bunch of spoilt brats who like to complain about high minded constitutional ideas. Ironically most gun owners are absolutely engrossed in consumer culture as they deck out their ARs with the latest attachments.

    Meanwhile the Fed has reduced the value of the dollar by 90+ percent, the 1965 Immigration act was passed without much protest. Patriot acts was passed, globalist banks were bailed out with YOUR money and wars costing trillions of dollars and thousands of AMERICAN lives were fought on behalf of a foreign power.

    Meanwhile Americans have been using their guns to shoo unarmed Blacks and Mexicans, and banging away on their keyboards after some terrorist attack in Europe saying “hurr durr, my 500lb ass could have one shorted the terrorist with muh concealed carry Glock”

    Americans are probably the most cucked people on earth.

    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @Twodees Partain
  46. @Vojkan

    Re: Databases of “Kompromat” maintanied by CIA, MI6 and Mossad.

    And consider how full those files must be. Politicians who reach the top of the heap are almost certainly sociopaths. To reach those pinnacles of power you can be certain these people have done some unscrupulous things, if not outright criminal.

    Case in point: Mrs. Clinton. No one in his right mind thinks media, the MIC or the banksters wanted her to be elected because of her wisdom, skill or virtue. They wanted her because they have so much dirt on her that as soon as they yell “Dance!” she’ll begin shaking her large tuchys.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  47. Durruti says:
    @Just passing through

    Americans are probably the most cucked people on earth.

    I agree with most of your comment (possibly all of it). The truth often hurts.

    I love my People and Country. I also love Belgium & Norway, Dads’ & Grandads’ country, respectively.
    There remains some love for France (and Dieudonne, & Soral, & Delacroix), and Mexico, where I attended school for a while, & a few other places.

    My Americans must uncuck themselves as we Restore Our Republic!

  48. @Anonymouse

    Once again, He was Right

    ‘…While the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there, for all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states, a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.’ –Adolph Hitler

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @Anonymouse
  49. @Pheasant

    I was alive before political correctness arrived in about 1992.

    The world Jewess did not mean prostitute prior to 1992.

    Few prostitutes were Jewish. They were either black or white crack cocaine addicts in those days.

    In America-not Israel-very few Jewish women are prostitutes. Maybe Heidi Fleiss. But she was an upscale madam and not a street hooker.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  50. Omegabooks says: • Website

    Don’t blame Jews. Blame the Talmud and Judaism. And Christian Zionism that is now preaching out of the Talmud—Noahide and all that.

  51. Ukraine again. This is why the Zionist-Pedophilia Industrial Complex faction within the CIA and Democratic Party are desperate to squash any narrative that leads to Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 election on behalf of HRC, the Blood Queen. Witness the hysteric and humorous behavior of their media assets. Lift the Ukrainian rock and all manner of hideousness will be exposed. Including neonatal clinics funded by the Open Society Soros labyrinth and the Clinton Foundation that were fronts for biowarfare experiments. The Clinton Foundation itself is front for covert activities for the above mentioned ZPIC. Since the 2014 CIA-engineered coup of Russian-friendly Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych, the country has become a center for human (children) trafficking, and a transshipment point for narcotics and weapons trafficking.

  52. El Dato says:
    @Pheasant

    Before political correctness Jewess was a synonym for prostitute.

    Where the fcuck have you been living to believe that this is true?

    You as usual are full of shit.

    Underage?

  53. @Jeff Stryker

    And where were the parents of these young girls? Somebody paid for these girls braces?

    It goes further than that. How does a parent not question how a child got $200-$300 dollars, or suddenly has buying power?
    How does a parent not report a child missing?
    How does a “runaway child” get a passport?
    I’m not saying there wasn’t a criminal organization, it’s just that there are so many holes in the narrative.

    As for the question in the title, even if Andrew did have coitus with Giuffre, she was 17, and the age of consent in the UK is 16. That doesn’t make him guilty of anything. I note that when Andrew says he doesn’t recall being meeting Giuffre, he is a liar, but the envoy saying he doesn’t recall also makes Andrew a liar. The photo with Andrew is without context. I have had my photo taken with famous athletes and politicians. None of them know me from Adam, and I would expect that none would have any recollection of the photo.
    As for Andrew’s friendship with Maxwell, most of the monied people in any country have some sort of connection among themselves. It doesn’t mean you know everything going on in their lives. My best man was an alcoholic and I didn’t recognize it. I was speaking to a lifelong friend a week before he committed suicide the day his wife left. While in their house or company, everything seemed perfectly normal. Both my wife and I were stunned to learn from his sister that there were problems.
    While the article certainly covers a lot of territory, there is a lot of “probably”. Probably is a different way of making an assumption than saying “I guess”.
    After the Trump collusion fiasco, I thought people would rely more on facts than narrative. Giuffre stating that she had sex with Andrew (and others) is not fact, it is an allegation yet to be proven. In a court of law, (s)he who alleges must prove. An allegation must be accompanied with corroborating evidence. To date, the Giuffre’s narrative, in specific instances, is short on corroborating evidence. Andrew is in essence being told to prove he didn’t do something. The US wanted Saddam to prove he didn’t have WMD. The difference is only in degree. You can’t prove a negative.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  54. annamaria says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Why Ghislaine Maxwell is not on Interpol Red Alert, still?

    It seems that Ghislaine was not only a madame to Epstein but also to the ruling elite.

    Correct. This is why “The American TV networks were actively suppressing the story for years.”
    On whose side are the US government, judiciary, and the intelligence community? — On a side of the well-connected pedophiles:

    Epstein’s Bell helicopter used the tail number of N474AW. This was the same tail number used until 2006 by State Department contractor Dyncorp for counter-insurgency operations in Latin America.

    It is priceless that the article has a set of pictures of the wealthy & Influential trash happily posing with the known procuress of minors for pedophiles. It is stunning how ugly all of the subjects on the pictures are. Not a single dignified face.

    The Jewish Solidarity in Dirt:

    Lynn Forester de Rothschild … sold the mansion for about $8.5 million less than its assessed market value, which was more than $13.4 million. Was this a pay-off to Ghislaine from the King of Jews, the Rothschilds for services rendered?

    It was probably the Israeli leaders Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak and Moshe Katsev together with the ultra-Zionist Mega Group who made sure Epstein and especially the Maxwell family had not only immunity from prosecution but also all the blackmail apparel necessary including luxury townhouses, airplanes, yachts, submarines, ranch and a private island. All, of course, bugged to the hilt.

    Mega Group of dual scoundrels: https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

    The Epstein-Ghislaine’s story is about the sacrifice of children. And this is how the high-placed blackmailers (including the sanctimonious ladies Barbara Walters and Hillary Clinton and other wealthy idiots) should be treated — as the active protectors of the pedophiles.

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
    • Replies: @Alden
  55. Eddy Fye says:
    @Sam Coulton

    What does age have to do with it? Did you read the Miami Herald article linked in the story? ““This was not a ‘he said, she said’ situation. This was 50-something ‘shes’ and one ‘he’ — and the ‘shes’ all basically told the same story,’’ said retired Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter, who supervised the police probe.

    You appear to minimize crime and devalue victims. Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein trafficked children for blackmail purposes. That’s the crime being vulnerable and naive are not criminal acts. You must be old enough to understand that.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    , @Sam Coulton
  56. @Jeff Stryker

    The world Jewess did not mean prostitute prior to 1992.

    As always, context is everything. Jewess as prostitute dates back to the 19th century. Jewish women as prostitutes, particularly in Eastern Europe, were over-represented in their numbers, and prominent as madams. The darker complexion of those Jewish prostitutes led to all darker complexion prostitutes being called “Jewess”.
    Today, Jewish women are over-represented in pornography. I suppose that qualifies for prostitution as it involves performing sexual acts for money. I suspect that the Jewish women are still prominent as madams in prostitution, as Jews in general, like to have control over others, and i see no reason why Jewesses would give up that dominance.

  57. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    You have missed the main point of this article — the criminal protection of the criminal masterminds and actors in the US.
    It could be your stupidity of being not careful enough on a slid and falling under a moving bus but a decent society would help you to recover. The rules of behavior (the rules of decency, if you still did not get it) work for the greater good of society.

    Sexual blackmail – especially involving little children – can be an extremely efficient way to influence key politicians and even military officials. …

    It was probably the Israeli leaders Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak and Moshe Katsev together with the ultra-Zionist Mega Group who made sure Epstein and especially the Maxwell family had not only immunity from prosecution but also all the blackmail apparel necessary, including luxury townhouses, airplanes, yachts, submarines, ranch and a private island.

    The Mega Group: https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

    The Mega Group and Mossad have been using indecent means to promote Israel’s interests.

  58. @Winter Watch

    Soros meddling in the justice system is an element of his color revolution in the United States.

  59. annamaria says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Your post looks like damage control, “Sam Coulton.”

    • Agree: BannedHipster
  60. @Kolya Krassotkin

    “Case in point: Mrs. Clinton.”

    You are absolutely correct. Give HRC the young flesh she craves and she’ll sign any bill, approve any covert operation, and initiate any war her masters demand.

  61. @Rurik

    “People act like children don’t have agency”

    Humans develop reason and moral agency as they age. To expect a child to react to complex situations with the abilities of an adult is ridiculous.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @NoseytheDuke
  62. Ghislaine Maxwell is simply ravishing in her skimpy bikini. Jewish? Whatever this woman has it. Judging by some of the posts here all she would need to do is publically reveal her transgenderism and most of you would be masturbating to her image.

    This is generally how it is when US patriots visit their local massage parlor – the madame of the house is usually a bit older but very attractive – leading the john to a room where a younger even more exciting employee services them.

    • Replies: @Paul
    , @Anonymouse
  63. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I remember your many comments that you grew up in the White slums of Detroit in the 1980s*.

    You claimed that in your Detroit public middle and high schools the White girls were all drug addicts and prostitutes . The boys were all drug addict, unemployable, high school drop outs.

    A couple years later you claimed you grew up in the White suburb of Warren Mi., went to Catholic middle school and White Warren high school

    So what is it? Your 2016-2018 claims that your middle and high school girl classmates were prostitutes and drug addicts; or today’s claim that your middle and high school classmates were virgins ????

    * White slums of Detroit in the late 1980s 20 years after the last Whites moved out.

    Keep your lies straight.

    • LOL: Republic, FB
    • Replies: @Biff
  64. @beet soup

    Parents (mothers, esp.) bought into the “if it feels good, do it” mantra.

    I once listened to two well-educated women self-congratulate over how great it was that their daughters were getting “the full college experience.”

    Yes, they were ecstatic that their daughters were giving away what prostitutes charge money for.

    What’s the value of something with a zero price?

  65. Paul says:
    @Dinh Revolsky

    You seem to spend a lot of time in massage parlors to know so much about them. Your time and money would be better spent elsewhere.

  66. @jack daniels

    The 1960s were the spoliation of America at the hands of a bunch of well-funded radicals.

    You can’t cheat an honest man. When belief in Christianity waned, something else filled the vacuum.

    Who is more evil, the person who engages in impulsive self-destruction (and spreads misery like a disease in those around them) or those who enable such behavior?

    A healthy society attempts to assist people in eschewing vice (self-harming actions undertaken with the expectation of pleasure or other reward.)

    The movie in which we all now appear is the version where George Bailey was never born.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  67. @Patrikios Stetsonis

    Patrikios Stetsonis writes “Once again, He was Right.” He being Adolf Hitler, capitalized because AH is divine or because Patrikios Stetsonis’ English is shaky.

    • Troll: Patrikios Stetsonis
    • Replies: @Patrikios Stetsonis
  68. I’m not going to read any more articles about Epstein’s and his supporter’s and his “client’s” depravity.

    Every time I do it makes me want to sling an AR15 and go to work on all of them.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  69. @Rurik

    To me, an adult targeting a non-adult for sex is close on the continuum to an adult targeting for sex someone in a persistent coma, someone who is falling-down drunk, or someone who has been given rohypnol. My fix for this is that when there’s a massive agency differential, those who take advantage are exiled. Permanently.

    The issue, of course, is agency.

    Most people would question the morality of a very smart man conning a dull-witted adult or demented senior out of their money, but somehow when the “coin” is sex, they deem it persuasion, not con-artistry. Sex is now treated like it doesn’t matter…what’s one (or a dozen) more sex partners in a life, right? [FTR, this is idiocy; nothing cuts deeper in the psyche than sex, and adding lots of sex experience, voluntary or coerced, to memory surely harms most people’s long-term happiness. I’ve met zero hedonists who were happy and well-adjusted. They’re all addicts, worse off than opioid dependents.]

    Young women are easy marks. This is why traditional societies do not let them out from under their father’s care until they’re either demonstrably adult or released to the care of a husband.

    Modern America wants to believe all people of all races and both sexes are the same. Next up, they’ll assert that we can all fly simply be waving our arms.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Corvinus
  70. @Trinity

    Trash?

    Ummm, she’s a Jew. Samie, same, samie.

  71. Mossad or not, she’s totally hot wrapped in that flag, the hair in that lounging shot, wow. And it’s not all that risque. Let’s see more of that evidence

  72. Mulegino1 says:

    Shamelessness, effrontery and the flouting of odious crimes against innocence are chief among the last traits exhibited fully by Jewry before its inevitable fall. Of course, this is not a fall from “grace” since the Jewish collective neither covets or treasures such a thing. What it is after, of course, is control via corruption of its host societies and cultures. That being the case, “drowning the ceremony of innocence” as Yeats put it, is a celebratory Jewish ritual up there with Purim, because the death of the body is less insufferable for the decent and decorous non-Jews than the moral corruption and spiritual death of their progeny.

    Nobody who has a shred of authentic spirituality or patriotism can now say with a straight face that Hitler was not, at the very least, preponderantly in the right.

  73. @jack daniels

    jack daniels writes “Yes, the 1960s were the watershed. As Ben Stein put it, at the beginning of the 60s you were lucky to get a good-night kiss, and by the end of the 60s a date would likely end with intercourse.”

    I’m not so sure about the dating and whether sexual mores actually changed sometime in the sixties. When I went up to Harvard as a graduate student in 1959, Radcliffies were inaccessible (to this writer) but townie women were easy. I lost my viginity in Paris in 1955 and I had intercourse with college girls when I returned to Brooklyn. YMMV.

    • Replies: @Anatman
  74. Rurik says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    To expect a child to react to complex situations with the abilities of an adult is ridiculous.

    Well, I’m sincerely hoping that my post was clearly, if sarcastically, making that very point.

    As for sixteen or seventeen year olds having sex with adults, it can, I admit, get complicated.

    If they’re a sixteen year old girl having sex with their nineteen year old boyfriend, (or vice versa) then if it’s all consensual, I see no foul. But if they’re poor and hapless sixteen year old girls, living on the streets because their home-lives are untenable, then for an adult to prey on such girls, and especially by grooming them and turning them out as prostitutes, then I see little difference between Epstein and Maxwell, vs. the Muslims in Rotherham gang raping and pimping out British school girls.

    I recently posted a link to a news story of Somali rape gangs trafficking in underage girls.

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2012/05/04/sex-trafficking

    Where the defense attorney suggests nothing was untoward, because the girls weren’t beaten into submission every time, but rather walked to the trysts on their own accord, but what man here, (including especially “Sam Coulton”) would be Ok with his teenage daughter being subjected to this treatment?

    (Some even seem to suggest that if the girl doesn’t have a father or stable home-life, then the predators are off the hook, because she should have, and it’s more or less her own fault, for not having).

    And even worse, is a prince of the British crown, being so inept at getting laid, that he’d resort to such moral squalor as to use a pimp for underage girls. If a man is royalty, he should be able to get laid at the best flesh pots and glamor spots on the planet, but this seedy cretin, goes for pimped-out children.

    An (especially well-to-do) middle aged man should consider a sixteen year old girl, who’s down on her luck, a sympathy case, not an opportunity.

    But too often, grown men (fiends), -just like the black-hearted women who facilitate them- are all too eager to treat such children as prey.

    I often find myself hoping that there is a Hell, and that it’s like they say, with boiling vats of excruciating torment, for all eternity.

    ‘Welcome Mr. Epstein! We have your place all waiting for you, right next to Senator McCain. And that other spot is for Ehud, we can’t wait until he gets here, then the fun really starts!’

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @Twodees Partain
  75. @Dinh Revolsky

    She is very sexy and quite attractive.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Twodees Partain
  76. chris says:
    @jack daniels

    I wouldn‘t hold my breath, Jack. First off all it‘s useful to keep in mind the fact that this is the same FBI, who on the mere rumor of child abuse, initiated a military assault (together with its junior partner, the ATF) and firebombed the Branch Davidians in Waco, TX killing some 80 men, women, and children. They seem to have developed a down-right cavalier attitude toward these matters in Epstein‘s and Maxwell‘s cases.

    Besides, Barr is as ‚establishment‘ as they come, with some very quesionable resumee of his own, his current role is to keep Trump busy thinking BIG inditements are coming just like Mueller did to the Democrats.

    • Agree: Rurik
  77. @bergots

    This elites’ sexual abuse narrative is wearing itself thin.

    If you think the irreparable harm done to kids is A-OK and you want to sit on your hands and look the other way, fine, but then go and sit in the ‘L’ block of mankind, where you and the other losers can enjoy each other’s company. and rot away for eternity.

    • Agree: Trinity
  78. DanFromCT says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Right, and very funny, too. If you or I made 27 flights in Pablo Escobar’s jet to Escobar’s hideout and vacationed every year with our family at Escobar’s ranch, the presumption would be we were partners in crime and not targets. That Epstein’s longtime lawyer Dershowitz can dial up any nighttime news show on Fox News from a remote TV studio to spin the Epstein story implicates Fox News. In fact, from the get-go Fox’ talking heads began insinuating that decent people should only be interested in justice for the Epstein girls in view of their suffering. The same human interest diversion is used to wave away the overwhelming circumstantial evidence proving Israel and its fifth column did 9/11.

    If America were actually a country under the rule of law with patriots in the DOJ, Fox’ and the rest of the news outfits’ elaborate efforts at 9/11 concealment would constitute powerful evidence of their guilt and grounds for indictment—as would their ongoing, elaborate efforts to concealing Israel’s connection with Epstein and MEGA in a de factor overthrow of the government of the United States. This is the truth Truman spoke about, the unexamined ground of all political, military, and cultural subversion in our country. Wexner is the kingpin and his name is verboten on American TV.

  79. Peter VE says:

    Ghislaine Maxwell will not kill herself.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  80. Trinity says:
    @Anonymouse

    Either you are being sarcastic or you are legally blind. That witch rates a 2 or a 3 at best on a scale of 1-10. I can’t say the POS known as Ghislane Maxwell is hideous but calling her attractive is way over the top. She probably drops to a 1-1.5 without makeup and especially now that she is old. Wouldn’t matter if the freak looked like Sophia Loren or Racquel Welch in their primes though because the sick freak is as vile a creature as they come. If I even touched this slime I would have to take at least 10 showers before feeling clean again. Ghislane is below “trash,” IT is a sewer.

    • Agree: TKK, Patrikios Stetsonis
    • Replies: @Patrikios Stetsonis
  81. Rurik says:
    @dc.sunsets

    nothing cuts deeper in the psyche than sex, and adding lots of sex experience, voluntary or coerced, to memory surely harms most people’s long-term happiness.

    She told him she’d been staying in a boarded-up apartment. She wanted to kill herself. “I was a zombie,” Brittany says. “I was a broken person. The things I’d been through were unreal.”

    Two hours later, Jackie opened her front door, laid eyes on her baby and winced. “I didn’t know her,” she says. “I saw her face. I saw her hair, but when I looked into her eyes, they were hollow. I didn’t see who was behind them.” The Benefields put their daughter in rehab. It was Christmas Eve.

    http://www.espn.com/magazine/vol5no12uab.html

    Young women are easy marks. This is why traditional societies do not let them out from under their father’s care until they’re either demonstrably adult or released to the care of a husband.

    that sounds like the ‘Patriarchy’!!!

    A woke person w0uld be triggered by your statement.

    Just as with Rotherham, as I’ve mentioned, what’s telling is that the entire administration of the university knew that the football players were raping an underage girl, but none of them said anything for fear of being called a ‘racist’.

    We live in a time of ubiquitous moral cowardice and spiritual rot.

    Muslims, Jews, blacks, browns, reds and everyone on the planet, including transgenders and sodomites and perverts of every stripe, are all exhorted to shout their pride for their narrow racial ethnocentrism or sexual perversion- to the heavens!, {except for white people, who’re supposed to wallow in shame and guilt and allow orcs and fiends to rape their children wholesale}.

    And the rub? Whitey is all too accommodating to this devil’s paradigm.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  82. Anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

    Marco de Witt,

    Thanks for your research, time and efffort.

    Just getting the word our to our business leaders, capital and industrual, government officials, diplomats, and entertainment professionals that sex-tape blackmail rings backed by foreign intel services is the key here.

    I hope these people understand that drugging food and drink may also be part of the blackmailers tactics, as one will do things they never imagined under the influence of these concoctions (just imagine the drugs researched for such purposes by CIA/Mossad/MI6, etc).

    Great job man.

  83. Art says:

    Courtney Wild told the police that she brought Epstein over 70 girls and they were all under 16.

    By the time I was 16, I had probably brought him 70 to 80 girls who were all 14 and 15 years old… (Emphasis added. Miami Herald)

    Some girls were even younger. According to the police many were 13 year old.

    This is amazing, this has been going on for 20 years. No FBI – no NSA – no CIA intervention – it is impossible that someone didn’t know.

    We do not have a government that looks out for us – PERIOD.

  84. @Sam Coulton

    Sam Coulton is likely another, or perhaps even the same, one of these Hindu Indian trolls who assumes an American sounding name (the first name, last name style is indicative) to spread lies from a supposed Western White perspective.

    John Arthur is an other. Thomm is a third. DB Sweeney is also one. There are a few others who’s handles currently escape me.

    Ignore them or troll them back.

    • Agree: Change that Matters
  85. @SunBakedSuburb

    Agreed, though I understand that Rurik was writing with tongue in cheek. Teenagers eventually grow up and, hopefully, go on to be parents and productive citizens themselves. Preying on them and creating circumstances that will lead to them becoming “shame-based” is not the act of a decent or responsible person. Just because a person can exploit another doesn’t mean that they should. Some of the commenters who justify this behaviour make me want to puke. Do they not have daughters? Sisters? A pox on them!

    Some kids suffer from poor guidance and deprivation of a healthy upbringing but it shouldn’t be a life-sentence which shame often turns out to be.

  86. TKK says:
    @mastodon

    It needs to be curated to a book.

    Maxwell’s sex appeal is lost on me. I don’t get it. She looks like a female Borat, including the ‘tashe.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
  87. @Vojkan

    I dated a lady, whose dad was a psychiatrist. A man, who seriously tried to correct the minds of criminals [in what was then called a ‘jail’]. Over dinner, the topic of sexual crimes came up and once we arrived at the section of pedophiles, this open minded, rather progressive man, had this to say about the treatment of pedophiles:

    “You can’t cure these people. The only treatment that effectively makes them stop, is to shoot them!”

    I had to pick up my jaw from the dinner table, after t/his comment.

  88. @Rurik

    It isn’t ‘rape, rape’, when a wealthy and powerful man drugs and rapes a white trash thirteen year old runt, huh?

    Can you imagine if this had happened to precious and tender young JAPs at the hands of white gentiles?

    The foundation for a Rolocaust museum would have been laid [no pun intended] as we speak and TV/Movies/MSM inundated with horror stories about the guilt of toxic, masculine, white men, groping and raping their way to the top of the sexual food chain.

    But alas, it’s the tribe, so we’ll give it a pass and blame the victims.

    Therefore, let’s blame all the imaginary ‘6,000,000’ tribal ‘victims’ for voluntarily walking into non-existing, mass gas chambers.

    It works both ways, doesn’t it?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  89. DanFromCT says:

    She has no sex appeal whatsoever, and in fact was a greasy looking hag at forty. That’s why she and her kind have always preyed on white girls for revenge, not sexual fulfillment. In 1969 Life Magazine published a review of Philip Roth’s Portnoy’s Complaint, calling it the “book of the present decade and as an American masterwork in the tradition of Huckleberry Finn” and more. The books was hailed by Jews precisely because the autobiographical Portnoy fantasized about shtupping little Catholic school girls in their uniforms, not for the sex, which he admitted would be lousy, but as a symbolic way of f*cking America’s fathers.

    This deep-seated envy is the hatred Jews accuse us of harboring toward them. A decade before Portnoy’s Complaint American Jews were equally ecstatic over Arthur Miller’s “nazification” of Christian Americans right after WW II—that we’re all nazis under the skin—which to my way of thinking is beyond evil and then some.

    • Agree: utu, Bill Jones
    • Replies: @Change that Matters
  90. @Eddy Fye

    You appear to minimize crime and devalue victims.

    That fact tells you where ‘Sam Coulton,’ ‘Jeff Stryker’ and their ‘buddies’ are coming from.

    Can you imagine what happens if one of those 14-year-something girls comes running to one of these ‘guys’, balling their eyes out about what Epstain did to them?

    “You f***ing c***. You f***ing asked for it, you piece of f***ing lowlife, white harpy. Now get lost, you’re breathing my air!!!”

    You gotta <3 the hasbara angels when it comes to mankind and all of its horrid aspects.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  91. DaveE says:
    @Trinity

    Check out this picture in an RT article about Benny Gantz winning one of the recent elections in Isra-hell.

    If the guy in the background isn’t Jeffrey Epstein……. well ……. I’ll give you a blank check and you can fill in the amount.

    https://www.rt.com/news/469150-benny-gantz-israel-policies-election/

    The Jew is rubbing in our dumb-Goyishe-faces once again. Of course he’s alive and living by a swimming pool in Satan’s Home, eh, I mean Israel.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @DaveE
  92. @dc.sunsets

    “You can’t cheat an honest man.”

    What utter bollocks.

    • Replies: @Anatman
  93. DaveE says:
    @DaveE

    Also notice how Epstein shares the spotlight with Gantz. I’m sure it’s just an accident that Jew-infested Reuters picked THAT photograph to publicize……..

  94. Owen C. says:

    Ever since Epstein “””died”””, it’s been obvious to me that he was not in fact killed, but spirited away to Israel and replaced with a dead body double to make it LOOK like he suicided.

    • Agree: Trinity
  95. Rurik says:
    @Daniel Rich

    TV/Movies/MSM inundated with horror stories about the guilt of toxic, masculine, white men, groping and raping

    That does seem to be the underlining theme of our national narrative.

    Nominally noticing the ‘impeachment’ farce, exactly none of those raving, triggered shitheads are upset about has anything to do with Ukraine (which most couldn’t find on a map), but rather what they’re unhinged over, is that an unapologetic, straight, “toxic, masculine,” white man is sitting in the White House, and quietly mocking their collective butt-hurt.

    But alas, it’s the tribe, so we’ll give it a pass and blame the victims.

    ((They)) openly refer to white, Christian girls as shiksas, (unclean, rotten meat, abominations).

    I can guarantee you that when Jewish supremacists talk about the Epstein case or Polanski or Weinstein, among themselves, the word ‘shiksa’ comes up routinely. ‘They’re just filthy shiksas’. What’s the big deal?’

    (If there’s are some Jews here on this thread, they could no-doubt confirm the penchant of some Jews to dismiss the honor of Christian girls with that word).

    It works both ways, doesn’t it?

    One day, perhaps it will.

  96. @DanFromCT

    (((These People))) have been operating in plain sight for more than half a century. #TimesUp

    • Agree: Trinity
  97. Anatman says:
    @Bill Jones

    You can cheat an honest man, sure. But he’s likely to report you to others who will punish or ostracize you if he lives in an honest society with moral fiber. Thus the disincentive to cheat or act narcissistically at all in the first place.

    • Replies: @Anne Lid
  98. It’s very revealing to read the bloggers and commenters who smear the victims and defend Epstein’s actions. The “girls were willing,” “the girls were mostly 17,” etc. All over the internet, these hasbara comment on everything related to this Israeli human trafficking and blackmail ring.

    The American media is virtually silent and when they go cover the story it’s always meant to obscure the details.

    Les Wexner is the Jewish oligarch that formed MEGA Group and funded Epstein. The Bronfman brothers were the co-founders, and their daughters were running the Nvxium sex-trafficking and blackmail ring.

    Another fascinating piece of the puzzle. The first article hinting at what was going on was in 2002 by Vicki Ward in Vanity Fair. Yet Vicki Ward was still socializing with Ghislaine Maxwell long after the case broke. And Ward used to be married to a prominent MI6 agent.

    • Replies: @Anatman
  99. Anatman says:
    @Anonymouse

    Moral decrepitude, once it sets in, is known to start in the upper class as they seek to imitate the behavior style of the lower class. Then, once it’s reached a certain critical mass amongst a populace, the only ones still willing to be modest are those practicing faithful.

    Human nature will never change, and what goes on behind closed doors is often not representative of the average. But the sexual revolution and what followed had dire consequences for American culture.

    • Replies: @Alden
  100. Anatman says:
    @BannedHipster

    Many who wish to subvert a culture will blur the lines between the definition of victim and abuser, underage and child, or trafficked and engaged in sex work. They wish to prosecute on a highly subjective basis and the confused terminology aids them in doing so.

  101. FB says: • Website
    @Jeff Stryker

    …but the question is why are young girls acting this way?

    NO…that’s not ‘the question’…

    The question is when can we expect to see justice handed down to the moneyed and connected elite…?

    That is the question…

    Even if we assume, for argument’s sake, that Epstein only recruited girls past puberty…let’s say 14 and over…he’s still guilty of ‘human trafficking,’ a horrendous crime…even a street level pimp is going to go to jail for living off the avails…and that’s for hiring out prostitutes that are of age…

    It is unfortunate [but hardly surprising] that the UNZ commentariat is so idiotic that they cannot even frame issues in their correct perspective…the author himself remarked on this unexpected reaction to his previous article…

    The young girls from disadvantaged homes are the victims here…this is nothing new…for decades big city pimps have been recruiting runaway teenage girls into prostitution…

    Are these unfortunate girls to blame for being born into dire poverty, and even abusive situations where parents are often alcoholics and drug addicted…and children are often abused by ‘boyfriends’ of the mother, who is often incapable or even disinterested in protecting her children from predators…?

    This is why they run away…the US has a huge underclass of dire poverty, in case you haven’t noticed…these girls don’t come from comfortable middle-class homes…which is a quickly shrinking demographic anyway…

    But the issue here is the absolutely degenerate crimes that the wealthy and powerful are allowed to get away with…where is the manhunt for this scumbag G. Maxwell…?

    Why isn’t she on the FBI most wanted list, or on the Interpol Red Notice…?

    It is beyond ridiculous that we have such morons here that can read an article like this…with all the degeneracy of these well known individuals on full display…and then simply wave that off and go on about the victims…as if this is something that is not well understood as being a result of poverty and other social ills that go with it…

    • Agree: utu
  102. FB says: • Website
    @Sam Coulton

    No…your comment is the trash…

    You are first of all one sick puppy…for lashing out at the young victims like you do here…

    Second, you are probably the dumbest person walking freely in the US…since it doesn’t seem to bother you that the moneyed elite can get away with practically any crimes…no matter how outrageous…

    In fact…a reasonable person might ask, why is a schmoe like yourself actually defending the powerful and wealthy degenerates involved here…?

    Surely you are far far from their snack bracket…but maybe you are a victim of the capitalist indoctrination that we plebes should look up to our ‘superiors’ with the fat wallets…hmm…?

    There is all kinds of compelling evidence presented in this article…it was enough to put Epstein in jail [and possibly snuffed out]…

    The so-called ‘queen’ even had to cut loose her lying son…his claims of a ‘medical condition’ that prevents him from sweating were flatly contradicted by medical specialists…

    It’s called ‘anhidrosis’ and the doctors interviewed here say it’s hereditary, not something you get from a high stress situation…like the little prince claims [from the Falklands war, where he was a helo pilot…but probably never was in any real danger]…

    So clearly he was bullshitting…

    “Most cases are inherited, which does not seem to be the case here. Other causes include heat stroke which seems unlikely in the Falklands, severe dehydration, and certain medications including morphine could also cause it, but these are not likely.

    “Maybe there was a supplementary event that happened which he cannot remember.

    “Trauma is not a known cause of this condition.”

    And then we have your bullshit about ‘#MeToo’…

    That’s pathetic…this issue is NOT about men versus women…anyone that dumb should probably not even be in the gene pool…

    Your senseless comment here prompted me to go and look at some of your posting history…you seem to have a primal fear of wild pigs, a subject about which you have commented extensively…a phobia bordering on pathological hysteria…

    It would be an ironic [and funny] denouement indeed if you were to end up as brunch for an angry 800-pound porker…LOL

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Alden
  103. utu says:
    @Curmudgeon

    The Story of “Zvi Migdal” – the Infamous Jewish Prostitution Cartel
    https://www.bh.org.il/blog-items/story-zvi-migdal-infamous-jewish-prostitution-cartel/

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/judaism-on-prostitution/

    Like the Bible, the Talmud offers mixed messages on prostitution. A text about prostitution and the frequenting of prostitutes by Jewish men allows that it is “Better that a man secretly transgress and not publicly profane God’s name so that no one learns from his actions” and that “If a man sees that his [evil] inclination [yetzer or urge] overwhelms him, he should go to a place where he is unknown, wear black clothing and cover himself with black [perhaps to subdue his lust], and do what his heart desires, so that he does not publicly profane God’s name”

    “In 21st-century Israel, prostitution is legal, and sexual trafficking of women not uncommon. In the past decade, approximately 25,000 women, nearly all from the Former Soviet Union, were smuggled into Israel via the Egyptian border to be brutalized as sex slaves. Once in Israel, victims were repeatedly sold and resold to pimps and brothel owners.”

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @secondElijah
  104. Alden says:
    @Anatman

    There’s a French saying dans la boue It means return to the mud. From the revolution when all the successful revolutionary new upper class emulated not the ordinary respectable poor. But the degenerate lower classes.

    You got it exactly right.

  105. Skeptikal says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Funny how these self-appointed “debunkers” (same as the HoloHoaz Hysterics) tend to fasten on some arcane, narrow, basically mechanical statistic or equation or faux syllogism to “prove” their vast points.

    Rate of gonnorhoea is not directly linked to morality and/or ethics, not to mention ubiquity of sex criminals being protected in Israel.

    The stat is probably an indicator of superior Israeli public health infrastructure and nothing else.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  106. @dc.sunsets

    Hilarious coping. I just showed you the UK data which is even worse than tbe USA. How do you like them apples? Now wait til you see the data on white americans…

    • LOL: dc.sunsets
  107. @Daniel Rich

    LOL @ “white”. Sometimes I wonder if articles such as this one and the people who support them are just running a charade to make white women seem attractive, when they’re actually one step above black women (who might even surpass white women if they weighed, on average, less than 190 pounds).

    Jeffrey Epstein is white, btw. He has blue eyes, even. Something less than 20% of white Americans have.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  108. Alden says:
    @utu

    Wearing black to go to prostitutes. That must be why hasids satmars Chabads wear black suits and ties all day every day for every occasion.

    What a religion, can’t touch your wife 16 days of every month because there might be a molecule of menstrual blood lurking. Can’t sit next to a woman or girl child on a bus or plane because an atom of menstrual blood might be somewhere.

    But it’s a mitzvah to use prostitutes often because they’re not human and their menstrual blood doesn’t contaminate Gods chosen orthodox men.

    In NYC you can see the black skank cheap street hookers getting in hasid’s cars every early evening before the chosen go home to their wives.

    • LOL: FB
    • Replies: @utu
  109. Corvinus says:
    @jack daniels

    Of course, Trump is involved. After all, he was at Epstein’s parties, and one of Trump’s Jewish friends, a lawyer from a prominent Ivy League School, told Trump he would take care of “the problem”. In addition, please note that William Barr’s father (the attorney general) has a role in this tragic story. He hired Epstein to work as a teacher in the 1970’s and introduced him to Mossad. And, just today, Epstein’s banker friend decided to pull a “Brooks was here”.

    This information is from Neon Revolt’s blog. He is the conduit for Q-Anon. Neon Revolt also sells merchandise.

  110. Corvinus says:
    @dc.sunsets

    Young women and young men need guidance because they CAN be “easy marks”. That is why it is vital we do not let them out from their parent’s care until age 18, where ultimately their adult children will make their own decisions. Hopefully, with the proper tutelage, they will make the right choices along the way.

    “Modern America wants to believe all people of all races and both sexes are the same.”

    In many ways, they are the same.

  111. @Sam Coulton

    Askenazi Jews are genetically proven to be basically Italians with some distant paternal Near Eastern DNA.

    They are basically a bunch of Italians. Ashkenazi were born when a small number of Jews migrated to Rome and converted/intermarried with locals. Mostly female but some male as well.

    To say that Ashkenazi are not genetically white is incorrect. If you want to get down to what they are, they are basically Italians.

    Al Pacino can pass for Jewish and has played a few. Henry Winkler always played Italians. Half the cast of the Sopranos were Jews.

  112. @Curmudgeon

    It goes further than that. How does a parent not question how a child got $200-$300 dollars, or suddenly has buying power?
    How does a parent not report a child missing?
    How does a “runaway child” get a passport?
    I’m not saying there wasn’t a criminal organization, it’s just that there are so many holes in the narrative.

    Indeed. I have been saying the same to anyone who will listen.

    Having traveled overseas with my wife and step daugher, I can certainly vouch that customs and border controls in various countries require custody documents if an minor female is traveling across national borders with a man who is not related to her., and even within the US, crossing state lines with a minor female for purposes of prostitution is a federal offense.

    One would want to know a lot more about the Prince Andrew occurrences, such as how much the participant was paid each time, how she was paid, and did Andrew know she was being paid and/or coerced (if that was the case)? The photograph is a mystery, but you cannot help but notice that the young woman appears to be very, very happy having her photo taken with the prince. She does not look like a fearful and disgusted 17-year-old.

    And as you say, where were the parents? Did they sign off on her obtaining a passport, as they would have been required to do? Had they signed over legal custody of a minor daughter to Epstein?

    It is hard to know who is telling the truth, but there are many details that are not in the public domain that might clarify matters.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @Alden
  113. anonymous[297] • Disclaimer says:

    Bales and bales of unlimited cash being expended and yet Epstein didn’t seem to be involved doing any sort of work to amass this sort of money. Rather unusual; one would think he’d have to be involved 24/7 to make this sort of money to buy islands, planes, helicopters, etc. So where was the money coming from? This appears to be one huge spider’s web with so many strands involving an international cast of important people, intelligence services, pizzagate, missing children, an international traffic of vulnerable children and who knows what else, perhaps kidnapping and maybe even murder of inconvenient people. Lots of people probably were relieved to hear that Epstein was dead, particularly the Clintons. The Clintons are a presidential and wanna-be presidential couple, American political royalty with millions as their fans. This shows what sleaze bubbles to the top in these so-called Western democracies. There’s probably much more we’ll never know about.

    • Replies: @Alden
  114. @Eddy Fye

    The only victim here is Jeffrey Epstein. He was murdered by his accusers. Murdered by a media that has suoerceded tbe courts and destroys the lives of those who are innocent in the eye of the Law.

    Listen to what you’re saying, you unclean, ignorant troglogyte: you identify with 14 year old status-seeking nymphos and their irresponsible, neglectful parents — and the media that enables them. And where were the parents? Did they even have two parents? Accountability is a two-way street, buddy. To hell with these “50 something victims” and their psychopathic quest for money and fame. I stand by the innocent, rather than the people who crawled out of the sewer to abuse the system my ancestors created, which is now in shambles. How about an article on that, rather than Jeffrey Epstein? This is a website for alternative media.

    • Troll: FB
  115. Vojkan says:
    @Rurik

    That is how people with moral sense think. Our society – by “our”, I mean both American and European with the exception of Russia – is dominated by a mix of ideologies that derive one way or the other from Cromwell’s England puritan ramblings, Charles (not to be confused with Joseph) Fourier’s phantasmagorias and Hegel’s dialectics. Ideologies know no morals and people are confused by the ambient relativism and don’t have the necessary clarity to reject the deviances that are imposed on them. Instead they are coerced through shaming, intimidation, even threats and outrageous laws to accept them as the new “normal”.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    , @Rurik
  116. Anne Lid says:
    @Anatman

    Correct. When my ex dumped me with a baby in a strange city, I gave away my baby’s outgrown but almost new things to an expectant woman. She and her husband talked me into giving them a chunk of my saved money for some business, and they would have returned the loan next week. They looked honest but down on their luck, and were very nice to my baby. I, utter fool, idiot, gave them the money. Week passed, they run into a little difficulty, but if I gave them more money, surely they would give it back to me, with interest. (I did not give a hoot about interest in the first place.) They toyed with me and I could not imagine that they could do it me, because I would not have been able to do it to others. In the end I went to the police. Not in the hope that I would ever recover my money (never got it back), but because I did not want them to get away and find new targets. The police found a long line of victims (the couple were expert manipulators) and put away the guy for a few years. The woman got away because of the children.

    • Replies: @FB
  117. @Vojkan

    That is how cat ladies and people who identify with 14 year old slut-gremlins think

    Fixed thar for you.

  118. @Skeptikal

    Yea, I’m sure the people at the clinic trying to get medicine for gonorrhea are fine, upstanding people who would never have gotten an STD if they just had… better infrastructure.

    People who have high sexual morality seldom get gonorrhea. Heck, even people who have casual sex with strangers seldom get it. Gonorrhea is what happens when you behave like an animal. It was even more ubiquitous in northwestern European societies before the invention of antibiotics.

    Just face it, buddy. Most Christian European people are low, disloyal, backstabbing, dirty, lying, uncouth, infirm, swinelike, despicable, unreasonable, emotional, money seeking animals. Israeli Jews, -the people of civilization, tradition, and literacy-, have higher sexual morality than them, and are cleaner than them. And that’s what we would expect. What bone do you have to pick with logical probability? Are you too proud to admit that white people, especially the females, are primarily garbage?

    Are you too scared to contemplate the possibility that white people are simply riding off the glory of WW2 (won by Jewish minds), and that if you took away the pensions, the alcohol, the methadone, the STD clinics, the camera function on the smartphones, and the multitude of fakeries that form the existential being of white females, your average white person would spontaneously combust? Because that’s the way I see it as an actual NW Euro individual. I don’t make excuses and I don’t cower behind the reputations of innocent men.

    These tarts are nobodies. Talentless, unskilled nobodies who realized that they can never have nice things without attempting to slut it out for those men who do have talent, who can acquire nice things in life through skill. In the realization of their inescapable inferiority, and as a last ditch effort to get rich or die trying, they retaliated with false rape accusations, and got an innocent man killed. They deserve to burn in hell forever.

    • Troll: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @FB
  119. @Curmudgeon

    I guarantee Epstein and Maxwell would have done the same thing with any Jewish girl who was 14 and willing. The girls religion meant nothing to them.
    It is simply that Jewish girls don’t grow up in houses with substance abuse or need $200 so bad they go out and prostitute themselves for $200.

    And it would seem some of the girls were already prostituting when Maxwell recruited them. Like the first two girls out at 2 AM roaming the streets of Miami high on Ecstasy. You won’t find many Jewish girls doing that.

    Which leads to a question.

    Why are white children more likely to grow up in house filled with substance abuse than Jewish girls?

    Why are white children more likely to be in dire poverty than Jewish children?

    Why are white parents more likely to be neglectful than the parents of Jewish girls?

    Whose fault is all this?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  120. Emmet says:

    Why the f… is Ghislaine Maxwell not in jail awaiting trial? Oh sorry, forgot. Because the Jewish oligarchy that rules America and the West doesn’t want her in jail.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @annamaria
  121. utu says:
    @Alden

    My Pilgrimage Into the Jewish Future: Partying, Praying, Prostitution and Absolution in Uman
    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-partying-praying-prostitution-and-absolution-at-a-pilgrimage-into-the-jewish-future-1.6469941

    The edition of the Tikkun HaKlali which can be found at the gravesite makes it clear already in the second paragraph of its introduction that “the main issue of Tikun HaKlali is fixing the defiling of the covenant, which includes transgressions such as masturbation, nightly emissions, and also thought, words and actions that are connected to adultery.”

    If you want a picture of the Jewish future, head to Uman for Rosh Hashanah. It’s a hellish place – where Israeli and Ukrainian organized crime gangs and cults of violent rabbis have staked out their fiefdoms along the dank Pushkina Street, leading to the gravesite. A town where Haredi politicians, convicted rapists, dark money and blind devotion hold sway, and stories of miracles mix with rumors of rank prostitution, abandoned exploited teenagers and the whiff of low-grade weed. Uman is every progressive Jew’s nightmare.

    Regarding prostitution at Uman. I’ve heard all the stories, including from Israeli diplomats and law-enforcement officials. And I’ve spent enough of my career reporting on the ultra-Orthodox community to have no illusions that they are any less inclined to vice than any other community. But I walked and drove around Uman for two and a half days, and didn’t see anything to indicate much prostitution was going on. Uman isn’t a sex-tourism destination like Kiev or Odessa, where it’s pretty much out in the open.

    __________

    Jewish future in Umam? Ukrainians should be really concerned.

    • Replies: @Alden
  122. @Jonathan Mason

    Furthermore, to get the whole picture, one would want to know who the other wealthy men were to whom Roberts was allegedly trafficked by Epstein, how much she was paid, and how she was paid.

    Where was Prince Andrew in the sequence? Was he the second man the alleged victim had had sex with after Epstein, or was he elsewhere in the sequence?

    What about Alan Dershowitz, who is also accused? Where was he in the sequence? Dershowitz has also vehemently denied knowing Roberts and showed readiness to sue HER for defamation. Why is Prince Andrew not talking of suing Roberts for defamation if it is true that he has never met her?

    Who WERE all the other men? I know there are one or two who have been mentioned, such as Bill Richardson, the governor of New Mexico at the time of Roberts’ alleged sex slavery, but who else? Is it possible that Roberts has already obtained compensation and confidentiality agreements with some of the other men?

    Whose camera was the famous photo taken on? If it was Roberts’ camera, as seems likely, and the photo was taken by Epstein, would he really let her take possession of such an incriminating photo”

    It seems hard to me to believe that Prince Andrew would not remember THAT photo, but perhaps if my photo was taken all day long every day by almost everyone I met, I would not remember either. Supposing every time I went to Walmart or Aldi, the cashier suggested a photo together due to their excitement at meeting an Unz commenter, would I remember them all over a period of many years?

    Incidentally, was that photo taken before or after the visit to the fashionable Tramp disco? Why would Prince Andrew take her there, to a night spot frequented by the rich and famous and by paparazzi? Every person who was there that night will have remembered being there when the prince was there, even if he was a regular customer. People just remember these things.

    Just so many questions.

  123. “Banker Thomas Bowers with ties to Jeffrey Epstein [and Donald Trump ] found dead from apparent suicide “ louderwithcrowder.com
    Was he “suicided” like Anthony Bourdain and others because he knew too much ?

  124. annamaria says:
    @FB

    The poster @Sam Coulton is mostly like from an Israeli brigade of “fixers.”
    It is hopeless to expect any decency from the ADL thugs and the “most moral” pro-Israel warriors.

    • Agree: FB
  125. Thank you for all your work. Ignore the negative comments. This needs to be exposed and kept in the public view. There is obviously an enormous amount of child trafficking and pedophilia being used as a control mechanism. Particularly liked the mention of the submarine etc and Maxwell’s Ocean charity. I have seen this mentioned elsewhere. It seems that these “charities” want to establish marine exclusion zones (marine parks) – this would provide good cover for child smuggling. Amazing Polly has some good stuff on that (check out her You Tube Channel)

  126. @Sam Coulton

    My heart cries for poor Jeff and innocent Jizz. By the way do you know if they followed his wishes and froze his head and penis? If so can you find out where they are kept as I would like to pay my respects (and make sure that he is really dead).

    You are of course correct, those naughty slutty 12 and 14 year olds tempting a grown man. What was he to do? The only decent thing he could do was share them around with his friends and take plenty of pictures. And build an island with secret underground tunnels etc etc…..all perfectly innocent.

    Of course, it is the parents fault. Or it is the child’s fault. Isn’t it always.

    I have come to the conclusion that you are a pedophile or a psychopath or possibly one of Epstein friends on which he has “comprimat” Only a sicko would defend Jeffry.

  127. @utu

    The bible does not give mixed messages about prostitution. The bible is not the Talmud. Otherwise I agree.

  128. Cassandra says:
    @Patrikios Stetsonis

    Beautiful song, nasse kalla Patrikios

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  129. Biff says:
    @Anonymous

    Keep your lies straight.

    This guy writes about Asia only in vague detail as some distant other place, and often generalizing, while he writes about America(lies included) in vivid detail over and over which one can only conclude he lives in the U.S. and the rest is bullshit…

  130. bjondo says:

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  131. @Trinity

    No he is not sarcastic, nor legally blind.
    But “Anonymouse” looks that is hanging out with people like this beauty: Pamela Karlan

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-blasts-moron-impeachment-witness-pamela-karlan-this-lady-needs-a-shrink
    So, jewess Ghislane Maxwell looks like goddess to him.

    BTW Karlan, is a lesbian and a jewess.

  132. Rurik says:
    @Vojkan

    Our society – by “our”, I mean both American and European with the exception of Russia – is dominated by a mix of ideologies that derive one way or the other from Cromwell’s England puritan ramblings, Charles (not to be confused with Joseph) Fourier’s phantasmagorias and Hegel’s dialectics. Ideologies know no morals and people are confused by the ambient relativism and don’t have the necessary clarity to reject the deviances that are imposed on them. Instead they are coerced through shaming, intimidation, even threats and outrageous laws to accept them as the new “normal”.

    Well, I’m not as esoteric about it all, and I’m sure you’re right about much of that. It was Cromwell, after all, who invited the tribe back into Merrie Olde.

    And yea, I put a lot of it down to that simple, if simplistic cause.

    All societies have always had their rats, but generally, even secular ones, had/have proscriptions against child abuse. I’ve heard a lot about the abuses of African slaves by white men, back in the day, but I don’t ever recall hearing of rampant child rape. I’m sure it happened, but if so, the perpetrator would have been reviled by white society.

    Vs. the Weimar regime, where the perpetrators of endemic child rape were lauded, if anything.

    Just as today in (((Hollywood))), it seems there’s no level of depraved exploitation that isn’t heralded as ‘progressive liberalism’s victories against the evil white Patriarchy.

    Some people lament the loss of Christian faith, as the fount of the West’s decline, but if Christian faith is so key, then what happened to the Vatican? Are not Christian values and serial boy rape mutually exclusive?

    Whom, if not Christians, are seemingly sanguine over the Eternal Wars, that have slaughtered untold thousands of innocents? I certainly don’t hear demands coming from the Churches, (either Catholic or Protestant), damning the Eternal Wars as abominations and sins against God Himself.

    Instead we hear calls for homosexual weddings and homosexual ministers being accepted as ‘Christian’. Even the overtly Christian Boy Scouts now allows openly homosexual troop leaders as role models.

    How fucked up is that?!

    So, you’ll forgive me, if I’m not looking to the church for the moral principles or integrity to guild us out of this abyss. (with perhaps the exception of Rick Wiles’ TruNews)

    When you look around, and see that your society is dying (being murdered) right in front of your eyes, and corruption is the order of the day, how is it possible to ignore the fact that every media outlet that is steering this cultural and spiritual suicide, is firmly in the hands of a hostile tribe of supremacists? How is it possible to ignore whom it is that have co-opted the universities? And what kinds of places our once-vaunted universities have become.. – indoctrination centers of moral rot and intellectual morass.

    Is it a coincidence that our central banks are controlled by soulless Zionists and supremacists?

    And that our media is controlled in absolute terms by people who consider Gentiles as less than human?

    When faced with that harsh reality, for me, it seems like a deflection to put the blame of a loss of faith. Because those who’re leading the march into the abyss, are not of us. But rather self-declared ‘others’, who’re dedicated to our demise. Blaming secularism, is for me, missing the point. Like lamenting the loss of the crops, but ignoring the locusts who consumed them.

    IOW, if we’re ever going to reverse the death spiral, (or at least slow it down) we’ve got to have the sand to name the Jewish supremacists, who’re overtly steering our civilization onto the rocks of depraved dissolution.

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
  133. Rurik says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Why are white children more likely to be in dire poverty than Jewish children?

  134. @Longfisher

    You and twenty of your best friends don’t have, among you, enough ammo to clean out that cesspit.

    Our society (American, British, etc.) is rotten, like a fish, from the head. The Western Roman Empire spent (depending on viewpoint) 500 years declining, and Western Civ spent a thousand years renewing during the Middle Ages.

    We don’t choose the times in which we live.

  135. @Curmudgeon

    Didn’t Turk also have a negative connotation in the 19th century and it wasn’t necessarily in reference to an actual Turkish person? I forget now what kind of character it used to denote.

    Just look how quickly those Epstein girls turned into gross ugly fat broads and they’re not particularly old yet. It seems Melania kept her shape, assuming she’s from the same stable – I wonder – the first lady of USA a former Epstein girl – could that be possible?! O la la!

    The answer to the question in the title is a Yes. But this sort of thing goes on in a lot of other places (Asia, South and Latin America) without any Jewish meddling. Arab and Asian royalty and business elites do also have such networks of their own, although I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t nowadays connect with the Western ones. Epstein’s plane loaded with girls and the Clintons did fly to many destinations servicing other royals and elites too, and of course for Clinton and others to sample more exotic merchandise of their Eastern counterparts.

    And most of those modelling agencies are a cover for elite, and not so elite, prostitution, or escorting as they call it these days. During the shows the wives are looking what dresses to buy, and the rich husbands … well you can guess what they’re considering for rental. There’s even a high fashion agency called “Elite” and you can guess that they don’t rent their girls just for the catwalk. And then some of these “models” go on to become stars and celebrities (or maybe even first ladies, aristocrats, and royals through marriage) and go telling the plebs shit on TV. Sure I’m outraged but what can I do about it if even the FBI doesn’t give a damn?

  136. @Rurik

    When my wife and I accompanied our oldest son to college orientation, parents were treated to our own lecture from a University employee.

    We were told, among other things… (and I do quote, verbatim) “When your son or daughter becomes sexually active, and they will…” [emphasis in the original.]

    Universities are brothels. Only utter morons cannot see that Universities are simply money-grabs. The student is simply a conduit through which employees of the university reach to grab loot dangled by lenders. The student’s first decade (or more) is being monetized and then asset-stripped by a system that only cares if warm bodies are on campus.

    All school departments are arranged to keep those conduits in place; campus police don’t arrest people, they just nudge them back to the dorm. Academic counselors place zero emphasis on students’ planning to finish degrees; a student with no concrete plan to ever complete his or her studies is to the university as a credit card “revolver” is to the card issuer…a cash cow.

    What better way to keep “students” on campus than to turn their all-expenses-paid(by loans)-extension-of-adolescence into a sex-, dope- and booze-addled haze that never has to end?

    No wonder the Community Advisers (residence hall employees) all had (I do not exaggerate) a 3 gallon bowl full of condoms for free distribution at all times.

    I called on that University’s lab and pharmacy as a salesman. Their main business (like 97%) was STD testing and treatment for gonorrhea and chlamydia. The rest was strep throat.

    Getting the teen girls to whore themselves out is POLICY.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  137. @Art

    We do not have a government that looks out for us – PERIOD.

    A signal that our society is utterly infantilized is the very notion that some adult (official, or otherwise) is looking out for you.

    One of the most astonishing things I ever saw, which put me permanently off watching anything even vaguely related to politics, was a man who stood up at a campaign forum to ask candidate Obama, “but what are you going to do for me?”

    Scripted or not, the notion that politicians (or bureaucrats) are there to look out for you is straight out of Idiocracy.

    • Replies: @Art
  138. @Altai

    I expected you to pose as your next question”what blackmailing hold did Epstein have over Wexner?”. While the answer would probably be far from simple is that not the logical corollary of yoyr musings?

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  139. Rurik says:
    @dc.sunsets

    No wonder the Community Advisers (residence hall employees) all had (I do not exaggerate) a 3 gallon bowl full of condoms for free distribution at all times.

    Getting the teen girls to whore themselves out is POLICY.

    I remember reading a story on Baylor university; (“the world’s largest Baptist university”) where the head coach’s son, was encouraging a football player to consider playing for the Christian university, by telling him “Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players”.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2017/01/27/new-baylor-lawsuit-alleges-52-rapes-by-football-players-in-4-years-show-em-a-good-time-culture/

    How many, I wondered.. Christian parents from heartland America, were sending their daughters to Baylor, because they figured that being a Christian university, that their daughters would feel safe and be surrounded by a culture of respect and dignity, only to find out their daughters were considered little more than sexual perks for Baylor’s black athletes by the Christian university’s administrators.

    But then again, how many parents (Christian and otherwise), would be proud to think their own daughters were being used like a cheap whore by the worshiped athletes?

    Since that story on Baylor came out, has it in any way negatively effected the applications to Baylor, or perhaps it positively effected it, because Christian football-fan dads like the idea of their daughters getting a vibrant ‘education’? “You’re really dating that awesome running back?’ Wow pumpkin, can you get his autograph for me, please?!’ Maybe you can convince him to bring you home for the weekend, and I can tell all my buddies at the church to come over and they can actually meet him!’ Wow, Lord be praised, that would be great!’

    On occasion I’m guilty of sarcasm, but I’m sad to say, with the above, I’m not being sarcastic in the least.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    , @Daniel Rich
  140. Jeffrey Epstein was a sexual commando for Israel’s intelligence. . As much as Robert Maxwell was an economic commando raping the coffers of multiple corporations and turning the proceeds to the State of Israel, along with his daughter and Epstein, the trio lined up high level leaders in their respective fields and after identifying their particular sexual preferences(and weaknesses) enticing and compromising them. Once compromised, at a time of their choosing Mossad did the rest. Maxwell supplied the contacts,
    his daughter the attractive female lures and Epstein identified their
    desirability, docility, and test run them and then distributed to chosen targets of their “honey trap.”
    Prince Andrew(useful idiot) was, for over ten years, the effective industrial commissioner for the Crown(until quietly exposed to his Mother the Queen), invaluable indeed, and a formidable high level contact puller and supplier to Israel of key UK insider information.
    Such high level operations were the purview(to minimize whistle- blower risk) only of Prime Ministers, for Robert Maxwell it was Shimon Peres, who passed the mantle to EhudBarak and who to the very end of the operation debriefed Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
    No political figure survives audiovisual evidence of sexual activity
    with children. In many instances, the sexual blackmail secured the
    silence of those in the know and who could publicly object and expose the selling of top secret military hardware and technology to foreign powers. Feast your eyes on this https://as.ucpress.edu/content/39/2/193
    U.S. Dual-Use Exports to China, Chinese Behavior, and the Israel Factor: Effective Controls?

    and this: https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/462434-florida-police-chief-who-oversaw-epstein-case-believes-he-may
    Sigal Mandelker a radical Zionist. Israeli/American prosecutor negotiated Epstein sweetheart plea deal…
    https://theweek.com/speedreads/852031/expalm-beach-state-attorney-acosta-completely-wrong-about-epstein-plea-deal
    Palm Beach Chief of Police William Reiter arranged to meet face-to-face with the prosecutor in
    charge of the case, U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta. What Reiter did not know is that a Sigal Mandelker then at the Department of Justice and Homeland Security with self-admitted powerful links to Israel, brokered the Jeffrey Epstein sweetheart deal, thus protecting the Israeli honey trap operation, subsequently approved by U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta. In New York, the office of Mahattan District Attorney. Cyrus Vance, Jr.actually pleaded in the courts to have Epstein’s paedophile public registration removed…The victims did not have a chance against these corporate and sexual commandos… Go figure…

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  141. Skeptikal says:
    @Sam Coulton

    ” and got an innocent man killed.”

    That’s Jeff Epstein??

    Uh-huh . . . Please share with the readership: Who killed Epstein?
    Curious minds want to know.

    I always love it when a UR commenter assumes his is talking to other guys who revile women as much as he does.

    Coulton is clearly a Hasbara type, but maybe trash-talking on women is part of his facade and “he” is actually Jewess living in Tel Aviv!
    So crafty, these Zionists!

    • Replies: @Alden
  142. FB says: • Website
    @Anne Lid

    You’re typical of the brainwashed idiots here who seek to find some kind of analogy between what these infinitely powerful wealthy sleazbags do…and how working class folks conduct themselves…

    What does your stupid little story have to do with the sordid Epstein saga…?

    The chicken feed fraudster that took you in went to jail pronto…

    Unlike Epstein getting away with it for years…and Maxwell able to get away with it completely…

    Keep deluding yourself…there is NOTHING that you and your little shoebox life have to do with these unimaginably powerful elites…

    You will never understand that…because our cradle to grave indoctrination system is designed to instill a reverence for the wealthy…they are the holy of holies for dumbass poor folks like you…that’s why you cannot even recognize them as being completely different from you…but you [and so many others here] try desperately to find some kind of comparison with your own little life…

    You know, one of the things I could never understand is why it is the poor folks that support the right wing politics…which is extremely harmful for their own shabby existence…while giving everything to the corporate interests and the billionaires…

    A recent documentary on poverty in America by the German news outlet Deutche Welle sheds some light on this…in this particular segment the scene is in dirt poor, mostly white Appalachia…half the people are on food stamps…

    Listen to what this poor guy working in a coal mine says when asked why he supports Trump…here…

    Donald Trump is a BILLIONAIRE…

    Says this poor blockhead [listen to the emphasis on ‘billionaire’]…showing us right there how effectively poor folks have been brainwashed…being a billionaire immediately makes you good and something to admire, which is exactly the goal of the brainwashing…

    Instead of the reality that the billionaire class controls ALL the levers of power…political, legislative…money policy…tax policy…even the so-called ‘justice’ system, which lets them get away with the most horrendous crimes against the most vulnerable among us…

    I’ve been studying this question of why ordinary folks are so stupid as to align themselves with the very people who are oppressing them…and it is responses like yours that shed a lot of light on this hostage mentality…

    This whole Epstein saga should be a wakeup call to ordinary folks to remove their blindfolds and see that THE ONLY ISSUE is ordinary folks versus the elite…but of course it is too late for you…you have made yourself willing slaves…

    The best slave is the one that thinks he is free…

    –Johann von Goethe

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Anne Lid
    , @Anatman
  143. I have worked around youth since I was in HS. I have spent summers at outdoor camps and inner city communities working with kids. I am not sure when I lost my innocence about the innocence of kids. But it didn’t start with kids. It started with adults, namely women. Some period in the late to mid 1980’s rumors and tales began to circulate among people of faith about ritual satanic abuse of children. Intitially, those tales were treated with some skepticism, but then several books, radio, and talk shows about recovered memories, ritual satanic, childhood PTSD (Law and Order episode) abuse hit the mainstream

    http://rationalwiki.nom.si/wiki/Michelle_Smith

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lauren_Stratford

    http://rationalwiki.nom.si/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse

    And turned normally rationale caring human beings into fear laden fear mongering crusaders who sexual abuse under every rock and in every exchange of human conduct. This was especially the case when that exchange involved men. When I was a young counselor and involved with kids i was initially oblivious to what was feeding the parent psyche, and a lot of it was initiated by christians — So once when I was doing laundry and a kid came down to play and chat as kids would want to do — I had no idea that this cause for alarm and chaos, until her mother showed up — let’s just say whatever notions I had about christians having “clean minds” went out the window, ashamed, embarrassed guilt ridden (without being guilty) I was introduced to a new world — my relations with kids would be forever changed and reminders of just how harrowing any relations with children would be forthcoming. I have to admit, I considered these tails with just a tad skepticism, but I was a christian and by golly gee wow . . . a host of respected christians were saying there is a widespread such conspiracy. But ever in my mind was the Mcmartin Daycare incident and its successors. But in 1993 or 1994 I decided to take a look see at the research — and lo and behold the FBI had been knee deep into the matter for years —

    And found nothing, they couldn’t locate any of these groups, find coborrating evidence of blood filled rooms, remnants of sacrificed dogs, cats, rats, snakes, elephants, zebras much less human fetuses — nothing.

    And the references have the nexus correct, in all of these issues were, front and center: police, counselors degreed or not, therapists, psychologists who all cam out with this staple

    “Children don’t lie.”

    French psychologist Piaget’s(?) research on the matter makes it clear: children do lie and they learn to do so at an early age. They embellish, they make up tales, they get stories wrong. As Piaget himself relates for years he used to recount stories of his childhood, until his former nanny explained to him that his memories were in fact stories told to him and the events never happened. The process of sense making is what is at play and not neccessarily some moral failing . But we also learn to avoid displeasing authority and children learn fast that lieing is that escape, deception —

    they didn’t break the glass, the dog did it, the wind, a monster came in the room, their invisible friend, their sibling . . . and as for taking cookies from the cookie jar — despite a crumb laden mouth — it was not them.

    And the references say that the ritual abuse scandal that hop scotched around the western world ebbed by the late 1990’s, wrong, it morphed into sex trafficking. All the above to say this, there is a case here about something untoward. But if one starts out with tales of an underage girl, introducing 80 other underage girls for the purpose and all 80 managed to keep it a secret such as to avoid a major dust up —- excuse my skepticism. This is not a defense of underage girls being used for anything. But I can certainly understand why the former SRA advocates would embrace larger numbers. The money in the cottage industry of sex trafficking and the abuse of children is very substantial. And if we are to have any kind of serious investigation — however unlikely, unlikely extremes should be set aside unless they can be substantiated.

    And how has the cottage industry thrived by accusing anyone who challenges the narratives of being a child abuser, a sex trafficker, a supporter of the same. And why advocates of FMS are reluctant to get involved — and why I am tad nervous to even comment. This issue invites the mountains of irrationality. And that liberals have joined the bandwagon, may explain why the democrats have launched the unreasoned over the top scenarios about the president they can contrive to avoid simply admitting their own campaign missteps.

    It doesn’t take a lot to comprehend why a sixteen or 17 year old girl would be enticed by older men with money and a cars, muchless a car lavishing them with money and more along with attens about how mature and attractive they are.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  144. annamaria says:
    @Emmet

    Ghislaine Maxwell is not in jail awaiting trial because zi0nists know better.

    Exhibit one: Pamela Karlan, a Stanford law professor in service to American/Jewish oligarchs: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/12/the-delusions-of-the-impeachment-witnesses-point-to-a-larger-problem.html#comments
    Pamela Karlan:

    America is not just ‘the last best hope,’ ….We can’t be the shining city on a hill and promote democracy around the world if we’re not promoting it here at home. …

    This is not just about our national interests to protect elections or make sure Ukraine stays strong and fights the Russians so we don’t have to fight them here, but it’s in our national interest to promote democracy worldwide.

    Pamela Karlan is not aware that by “promoting democracy around the world,” the US has been committing the supreme crime of waging the wars of aggression (see Nuremberg Protocols).

    Pamela Karlan is not aware that the Maidan putsch of 2014 was run by ziocons/CIA in collaboration with Banderites (self-proclaimed neo-Nazi). By the way, is she a “child of Holohoax survivors?” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_S._Karlan

    Pamela Karlan’s mental operations, as far as legal matters of governing and elections concern, are situated firmly on a side of the Jewish Bolsheviks. She is unredeemable — the hate and aggressiveness are her birthmarks.
    Her ideological (and perhaps familial) predecessors’ peculiarities: https://harvardpress.typepad.com/hup_publicity/2017/11/social-breakdown-in-revolutionary-russia-tsuyoshi-hasegawa.html

    …brutal violence is one of the most prominent, frightening, and often ignored aspects of the Russian Revolution. The revolution brought out the worst of human emotions—hatred, cruelty, brutality, and vengeance. … the Bolsheviks approved and often encouraged this breakdown of social order.

  145. FB says: • Website
    @Sam Coulton

    These tarts are nobodies. Talentless, unskilled nobodies who realized that they can never have nice things without attempting to slut it out for those men who do have talent, who can acquire nice things in life through skill.

    Wow…as that guy on A-Team used to say… ‘I pity the fool’…

    So you are telling us you’re NOT a ‘talentless’ and ‘unskilled’ ‘nobody’…?

    Pray tell us then, what are your ‘talents’ and ‘skills’…that you self-identify with degenerate, wealthy scumbags like Epstein…?

    Because I certainly do NOT pick up any clues to any such ‘talents’ and ‘skills’ from your verbiage here…certainly there is ZERO chance of you being an engineer or doctor or any other skilled professional…looking at your commenting history and timeline here, it’s obvious you burn up so much time on this website that certainly you could not even be a humble shopkeeper…

    Here is my appraisal…you are basically a dirt poor, illiterate, but highly brainwashed creep…who is probably in the employ of some troll farm, making a few pennies per word…where the only ‘skill’ required is to be able to make a jackass of yourself in a public forum…

    Am I getting warm…?

    LOL

  146. @Rurik

    We cannot save the masses (because they’re frankly no better than animals for the most part, even those with advanced degrees and high IQ’s) and we cannot escape the conditions that they produce, but we can choose our own paths and do our best to teach our kids to see what’s real (and thus hopefully better navigate their own lives.)

    The world goes by itself, and this (these times of near-literal Sodom and Gomorrah), too, will pass.

    Humans are social animals, thus the conditions in which we live are literally long-lived fads that are collective stupidity covered in pervasive rationalizations.

    Never forget: our ancestors survived worse.

    PS: Sadly, you’re right. In these benighted times, large numbers of men would happily see their daughters used as sex toys by (overwhelmingly black) athletes. It’s the obverse of mothers happy to see their daughters pursue economic independence (career) to the exclusion of marriage and child-rearing. Both seem oblivious to their kids making decisions they’ll spend most of their lives regretting. As far as I’m concerned, even if you’re Heidi Klum, there’s no coming back from that.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  147. @Cassandra

    I am glad you like it.
    Mosholiou was one of the greatest.

  148. @El Disgustador

    You know all you need to know when you see who you cannot criticize.

    All roads somehow lead to Israel, or at least to a few of its biggest promoters. But the effective historical revision done in the wake of WW2 made any criticism of Jews anathema because…muh holo-cost.

    Belief comes first. What people believe forms the filter through which all data must flow, and the “holo-cost” filter induces a literal reflex attack on anyone who questions anything remotely connected to Jews, Judaism, German history before during and immediately after World War Two and Israel.

    It’s positively fascinating to see how many reflexes are currently invoked in people, reflexes that have ZERO deliberation period prior to “attack, attack, attack.” Simply notice a correlation, any correlation about any of the foregoing and you’re attacked as an “anti-Semite” and “denialist” before the attacker could even multiply 4 times 6 in his or her head.

    This is literally a cognitive impulse, a reflex, a conditioned response that does not require cognitive effort.

    Say what you will, but you have to respect the astonishing level of success Jews had in this realm. They’ve brainwashed pretty much the entire population of the Western World into a conditioned response that the brainwashed don’t even notice. Pavlov’s dogs didn’t salivate on the bell half as reliably.

  149. annamaria says:
    @FB

    “these unimaginably powerful elites”

    — They are not “elites:” they are very powerful scoundrels, fraudsters, thieves, and murderers. Others are not allowed into the club; the honest, principled, and courageous people are inimical to the spirit of the club.

    The unimaginable and uncontrolled power is a sure promise of systematic demise because a healthy organism, including a healthy human society, needs constant feedback followed by proper reactions to the feedback. No feedback – no optimal state for survival. The uncontrollable psychopaths do not recognize the basic rules.

    The unimaginably powerful scoundrels that keep less powerful scoundrels like Brennans and Epsteins and the likes at their service are for a huge surprise re the future of their progeny, courtesy the psychopathic idiocy of the unimaginably powerful. The “unimaginably powerful” are truly the merchants of death.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  150. @EliteCommInc.

    And [FBI] found nothing, they couldn’t locate any of these groups, find coborrating evidence of blood filled rooms, remnants of sacrificed dogs, cats, rats, snakes, elephants, zebras much less human fetuses — nothing.

    Really? I know, I know, reading is hard work, and this FBI data dump is over 300 pages long, but your “nothing” is a straight-up lie. It turns out that (1) the FBI did dig up lots of stuff under the McMartin Preschool, (2) the FBI’s spokesmen lied about their results, and (3) the FBI data dumped here is redacted by none other than the bleeping CIA….yes, the CIA of “conspiracy theory” term-invention.
    https://vault.fbi.gov/the-finders/the-finders-part-01-of-01/view

    Please note, this is on FBI.GOV unless you’re incapable of reading six letters.

    45 foot tunnel. 9 foot wide subterranean entrance found under west wall of the “Dog” room (Classroom 4 [redacted] classroom)… Tunnel proceeded south, then east 45 feet through Classrooms 4 and 3, and north, then east 10 feet within Classroom 4… Four large, upright containers were found in the tunnel under the arch, obviously hand placed. A 9 foot wide chamber was found along the tunnel under Classroom 4. Top of chamber and top of sections of the tunnel had layers of plywood covers with ta_ paper which has apparently been supported by cinder blocks and 2″ x 2″ and 2″ x 4″ wooden posts found underneath. Tunnel features made it evident that tunnel was hand dug.

    7 Foot tunnel extending into the triplex next door. Tunnel extended from the bathrooms off the office and Classroom 1 to the front yard of the triplex next door… Children described entrance and exiting tunnel in triplex yard exactly where tunnel and exit were found. 1 39″ x 41″ area under a hole cut in this neighbor’s bathroom floor had been excavated and subsequently filled.

    Other significant facts. A small, white plastic plate with three pentagrams hand drawn on top of light green paint was found by the archaeologists in the stratified dirt in the play yard. Per historical archaeologists, pentagrams were hand drawn by an adult and not part of the manufacturer’s design…

    […]

    No doorknobs were on Classroom 3 door, only a dead bolt lock.

    Each classroom had on off light switch labeled “Fire Alarm.” System did not connect to fire station but was used as an alert within the school.

    More than 2000 artifacts were found under the school floor, including over 100 animal bones.
    Keeping It Secret

    [Redacted] has alleged that The Finders are involved in a well organized child abuse scheme, and that [redacted] in conjunction with the state department, and the FBI’s foreign counterintelligence section, conspired to cover up those abuses.

    Today we’re “told” that there was nothing to that “panic” about ritual/sexual abuse of children back in the ’80s and ’90s. We’re told this, and are reminded that no matter how creepy is the artwork in Tony Podesta’s home, no matter how often people trafficking in children use “pizza” metaphors as code or that some clown who owns a pizza joint near the Capitol was listed as one of the most influential people inside the Beltway, there’s nothing to see here….

    If there’s ever an accounting of all this, some of those who reflexively claim all this is a fabrication will end up dancing at the end of ropes.

  151. Miro23 says:
    @Art

    This is amazing, this has been going on for 20 years. No FBI – no NSA – no CIA intervention – it is impossible that someone didn’t know.

    We do not have a government that looks out for us – PERIOD.

    The US government and administration has been corrupted over decades with Congress, the FBI and the CIA now being a hollow parody of Democratic government. Real power rests with organized US Jewry and their elite Gentile collaborators.

    Congress follows their instructions, the media follow their instructions, education follows their instructions, FBI/CIA follow their instructions, WMD lies can become the truth, 9/11 fakery can be ignored, the destruction of the Middle East can be blanked out, and Epstein and Maxwell can operate their elite brothels for of years.

    That’s not to say that the situation will change. Elites can live very well for years in (nominally) Democratic countries with crushing poverty – for example the Philippines. Elections produce one corrupt government after another while the public is eternally looted (mostly by ethnic Chinese) and the country stumbles from one economic crisis to the next.

    MaybeAmericans imagine that things can only get better, but on the present track they can actually get much worse.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Art
    , @Anon
  152. @Jeff Stryker

    The answer to the question is money and things money can buy. But even if families break down and parental care isn’t good enough, this shouldn’t be happening. The family is the first line of defence but if that doesn’t do it, society and the state shouldn’t be allowing this. Society is uncaring and rotten and then predators like these can flourish. And it’s getting worse as the rich get richer and the poor … well they get F…..

  153. @annamaria

    The unimaginably powerful scoundrels

    The legal ability to create “money” out of thin air is essentially a limitless power. All of these demons are intimately associated with banking, particularly central banking or multinational banking. Bankers who control the very creation of money (which in our times of FIAT money is almost entirely credit, bank credit) are indeed powerful enough to purchase entire governments.

    How else do we explain why so many American (and other) politicians come into power without wealth but soon are tens if not hundreds-millionaires (or more?) Oh, we’re told, their SPOUSES are good investors….

    International bankers have bought our own political establishments right out from under us. They blackmail judges and legislators, they pay off cops and spies, they are The Company that owns us lock, stock and barrel.

    It’s beyond obvious to me that those at the pinnacle of this have used participation in unimaginably horrible acts to control those in the tier below them. Banging 17-year-olds is nothing compared to what almost certainly lurks beneath that. Once someone has committed such savage, horrible acts, you can control them forever, making even the Sicilian Mafia’s Omerta look like child’s play in comparison.

    • Agree: annamaria
  154. @Art

    Tbe more reasonable presumptuon is that Jeffrey Epstein didn’t do anything like this and that the girls are false accusers.

    Something we’ve seen before, if you have amnesia.

    • Replies: @Art
  155. @NoseytheDuke

    What is needed is to get the 50 Governors together to form a States Bureau of Investigation of Federal Investigators.

    SBIFI.

  156. Alden says:
    @FB

    The Queen has the UK police foreign affairs and intelligence and even her own Sovereign’s Secret Service. She and those agencies might know more about Andrew’s activities than appears in the press.

  157. zerohedge.com : “Clintons vacationed extensively at Epstein’s baby-making New Mexico ranch ” :
    “The Clintons maintain that they had minimal contact with Epstein , despite records proving he [Bill] flew on the disgraced financier’s ‘Lolita Express’ Boeing 727-200 no fewer than 27 times …”

    • Replies: @annamaria
  158. @Wizard of Oz

    No, the logical corollary is that it was a Zio conspiracy designed to gain unparalleled leverage over prominent individuals in target nations. Wexner, having a huge cash-flow served as the financier while Epstein functioned as social facilitator, pimp and evidence curator.

    It’s always a pleasure to assist you in overcoming your serial deficiency in logical thinking.

    • Agree: Alden, utu
    • Replies: @utu
    , @Wizard of Oz
  159. Art says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Tbe more reasonable presumptuon is that Jeffrey Epstein didn’t do anything like this and that the girls are false accusers.

    There you go — Jew talk – straight out of the Talmud.

    The Jew innocent – the gentile girls – cows.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    , @Daniel Rich
  160. Anne Lid says:
    @FB

    My story had to do with the inane notion of “you cannot cheat an honest man”. Most definitely you can, because the honest one does not think with the head of the dishonest, at least not until he gets burned. There is quite a bit of victim blaming in this thread. The elite is not any different from the two bit shysters I bumped into, except they mostly, but not always have higher intelligence and better opportunities for grifting. Otherwise there is not a speck of difference.
    FYI the bastard did not go to jail pronto, it took a few years, but they got him in the end. The elite’s problem is that they don’t get caught, so they become progressively more and more degraded.

  161. Alden says:
    @Skeptikal

    You might have something there. I just get enraged and blast at the misogynist women haters.

    I don’t read amren & CofC much because they focus on black on White crime and I’ve known about that all my life. Occasionally someone in other sites will claim the downfall of the White race is solely due to the sudden appearance of the Ford Carnegie Rockefeller foundations & CIA feminazis in 1972. Or black man White woman couples and babies.

    But nothing like the blasts of sheer hatred some UNZ men post every day.

    The Deborah Staggs Agostini Garcia posts really appalled me both as retired law enforcement and as a small woman incapable of defending myself against a man or 15 year old boy without a gun.

    So maybe maybe Whiskey Coultin and others are paid trolls taking advantage of Ron’s no censorship policy.

    But even regular commenters who’ve always seemed reasonable claimed Deborah Staggs did use the N word and deserved 25 broken bones and a shattered kneecap.

    Others refused to acknowledge that both Agostini and Garcia are married women accompanied by their husbands who also were also beaten that night.

    Another commented that Deborah Staggs were broken because her obesity must have caused osteoporosis which was why her bones broke.

    According to that commenter, Deborah’s injuries were not caused by a man who outweighed her by 1oo pounds slamming her but by her obesity

    Moron, ignoramus; osteoporosis isn’t caused by obesity but correlates with slimness. Obesity correlates with higher bone density or not having osteoporosis.

    Being married for a long time and content with my husband’s, looks I find it impossible to believe that these old codgers surrounded by obese tattooed green haired women are; or ever have been married or in a relationship with a woman.

    If so, they’d notice good looking attractive women not just obese tattooed and green haired

    So, either the women haters are paid trolls, or Ron’s non censorship policy attracts all the conservative women haters banned from other websites.

    I don’t know what’s the answer.

  162. Art says:
    @Miro23

    The US government and administration has been corrupted over decades with Congress, the FBI and the CIA now being a hollow parody of Democratic government. Real power rests with organized US Jewry and their elite Gentile collaborators.

    If something, that needs doing, cannot get done in America by our government – the Jews are behind it – that is a 100% full proof assumption. Just keep looking.

    America has stopped working ever sense the Jew Jack Ruby killed JFK’s assassin.

    Bloomberg is coming!

  163. @Just passing through

    Admit that you’re describing yourself, that is, if you’re actually an American. Your black-pilled “we’re all pissants” line may fit you, but don’t try to apply it to a few hundred million people you don’t know. That handle you chose for yourself describes a hit and run troll.

  164. @Art

    Tbat jeffrey Epstein is an innocent man is guaranteed by US jurisprudence, based on Justinian and English Common Law — seems a lot of trailer trash on this website seem to have forgotten the values of the Western culture they claim to belong to. There’s a lot of collective amnesia around here which is based on nothing but a stupid hatred of Jewish people.

    Would I trust the Talmud (a everlasting religious document from one of the oldest extant cultures in the world) over a 14 year old tart and the latest media blitzkrieg against the accused? Absolutely. Some of you people have major defects in the parts of the brain that facilitate honesty, quality discernment, and reason. You people wouldn’t fit in in Old America.

    • Replies: @Art
  165. “Really? I know, I know, reading is hard work, and this FBI data dump is over 300 pages long, but your “nothing” is a straight-up lie. ”

    Oy Veh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Laughing.

    First, my comments about the FBI are to a large scale or even small scale organization involved in satanic ritual abuse of children —

    Cults exist, they engage in ceremonies — as I made clear the report by the FBI found no such network or related organizations.

    There are child abusers, there are links to rings that spread material over the net — no question, but that is not the schema we are talking about.

    Nor do I make any claims about today — the FBI has redefined the circumstances and conditions since the 2990’s

    But you application to McMartin and the FBI to my having lied is nonsense. Two seperate issues.

    Second,

    I am going to walk carefully around Agent Ted Gunderson and all that he espouses. Long on accusations, short on evidence. This entire landscape of landmines loaded with mountains of speculative nonsense resting on the salacious.

    Laughing

    The vault, oy veh. Shock of shock, I don’t have access to the vault. However, please note the archeological schematics and photographs. That would accompany any size dig of any kind. There are videos of the the sites excavation that found nothing. here’s the report

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170325013154/http://tedgunderson.info/index_htm_files/McMartin%20Scientific%20Report.pdf

    I would read in full. As based, there is nothing in it that supports abuse. The animal bones are fossils and native american artifacts.

    They did not locate tunnels per se as in open lines but rather trenches as those that might occur if one is digging for a sceptic tank for the building it served. An yet not a single clear photographs of the excavasion. Not a single photograph of pentagrams on site in location. even the paper refers to the supposed tunnels as possibly created via natural occurance.

    “The McMartin Tunnel Project confirms that a functional pattern of tunnels once existed under the McMartin Preschool, that the tunnels provided access outside the walls of the structure, that they must have been constructed after the structure was built in 1966, and that they were subsequently completely repacked with extraneous soil and implanted artifacts at some time prior to May, 1990.”

    Here’s the kicker. There were tunnels created after 1996 and subsequently filled in later.

    So here’s a site that has been repeatedly at various times in its history excavated.

    look, one doesn’t have to read very far before concluding that here a evidence pushed to a case, not evidence telling a story. In fact, the mailbox suggests that there may have been an entirely different or separate dwelling on the site. It would be interesting to compare that material with property records, building permits, etc.
    But its a safe bet if you have to dig out a tunnel where a tunnel supposedly exists, it’s a safe bet it wasn’t there used as a gateway to human and animal sacrifice. Hmmm . . . curious all these sacrifices and no blood, no alters, but we go have pentagrams, though none placed in locations that could be photographed in place.

    I find page 92 interesting to say the least, clearly the author was unhappy with the first analysis and in pressing for something more to his theory, we get the response of well, it could be this . . . or it could be . . . the Disney bag could have been there by natural causes, but . . .

    The children described tunnels clear open tunnels, so clear in fact that back hoes should revealed them with ease. The children don’t say we had to plow and stumble over roots and 1930’s trash.

    uhhh excuse me, railroad ties — enough is enough. I don;t have any issues with the zeal to protect children, get to the truth and justice, and i am not an architect, but even I get what is going on here. And it is not evidence of satan worship, but a site that has multiple constriction projects at various times in it its history.

    ———————————————————–

    Given the intensity of these prosecutions, I think it is safe to say that the prosecutors did not dismiss anyone of the parents or children glibly, and neither did the police. But there was no case to be had as it was described.

    And while we may disagree, disagreement does not mean someone is espousing a lie and I am being very generous. Because my reference to the FBI had nothing to do specifically within the McmArtin case. But since you insisted. it is incorrect to call these findings that of the FBI, there are the results of a private investigation study that was conducted separately.

    Third,

    https://www.ranker.com/list/mcmartin-preschool-trial/cat-mcauliffe

    https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4462

    https://famous-trials.com/mcmartin

    Fourth,

    Laugh. I am well acquainted with the tales of how our entire government has been infiltrated by satanists, demon ridden men and women, etc. I have no doubt that you sincerely believe that even Pres. Reagan solicited young boys with the aid of the CIA and FBI operatives up and down dimly lit back stairwells.

    Fifth,

    your suspicions are rooted in those spaces between faith in scripture about the world and the very real dark places and people that operate in the same. They are real. There are real evils. People and even out trusted authorities have engaged in some very filthy, sick behaviors in the name of expedience and just plain self satisfaction. As someone who leans on scripture, I believe in demons and spirits and that even on occassion the same will inhabit human beings. However, I also believe that people of faith should act in this world with rational prudence. That does not require that one ignore the supernatural or dismiss that the above is not real. But we operate with a an essence of God and that demands fair play to justice. In that we seek actual evidence, not merely how we feel, even if how we feel is correct, even if the Holy Spirit reveals things others don’t know or perceive, we are obligated to act with some manner of prudence to avoid burning not only the chaffe, but the wheat as well.

    And in cases when the state makes accusations as in the Mcmartin incident, the same tools that the state now fashions will one day be the tools (tactics) used against believers. Not everyone who challenges the salacious is in bed with wrong doers, ignorant or willfully blind —

    actual evidence is important. And the wild fires that started in Scotland(?) regarding these abuse scares, jumped to Australia, Ireland and England and the US morphing from Satanic abuse to child rings and women rings have invited the worst enemies of people of faith in the name of solidarity, but solidarity is not what they have in mind. What they have in mind to exploit the small percentage of these incidents as tragic as they are and lay them at the feet of people of faith. As in the case for the Catholics fewer than .5% of catholics have ever exprienced molestation and yet, based on the reporting one would think that the Catholic church is a bastion of pedafiles and rapists with the church conspiring to promote and conceal them.

    The numbers simply don’t bare that out. I think the FBI did diligently seek out rings of the nature on the table here.

    I think there are prostitution rings in which men and women by and large by choice engage in earning a living so doing and a fewer number who for other cause have no recourse. However,

    ————————————————

    Prudence

  166. Art says:
    @dc.sunsets

    A signal that our society is utterly infantilized is the very notion that some adult (official, or otherwise) is looking out for you.

    With minutes after getting a first paycheck from the US government – the recipient turns to “government vs. the people” – he protects the government first – period.

    The fix – is turning to local ownership of government by local property owners.

    Shrink and dump the nation state.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @dc.sunsets
  167. Art says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Sam – You are a joke! – Art

    • Replies: @annamaria
  168. @Rurik

    I have to say that I expected you to run afoul of some readers who didn’t get the irony of that earlier comment. Those of us more familiar with your posting history seem to have taken it in the tone that was intended, since you only had a few who didn’t quite get it. IOW, you got off easy that time. 😉

  169. @Anonymouse

    No accounting for taste, I suppose. Some guys would try to screw a rosebush if they thought a snake was hiding in it.

  170. Alden says:
    @Sean

    The crime to which Epstein pled guilty was not statutory rape with an underage girl.

    He pled guilty to procuring for prostitution or pimping . It’s a crime in every state no matter what the age or sex of the prostitute.

    You haven’t really read the articles have you? Just focused on the accuser must be lying and there’s nothing wrong with a 60 year old man having sex with the 12 year old French triplets all in the same day.

    Next time you cruise the Lolita websites, better hope the luscious 14 year old girl isn’t a 50 year old man 🚔 👮‍♀️ 👮‍♀️

    • Replies: @Sean
  171. @Sam Coulton

    I hope you repeat some of your crap in public around men with daughters. Someone will surely stomp a mudhole in your ass and then walk it dry.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    , @Alden
  172. Alden says:
    @annamaria

    About Lynne Rothschild. Jared Kushner’s parents were absolutely against him dating, let alone marrying, a shiksa piece of filth. The couple realized it would never work and stopped seeing each other.

    Some time later, Rothschild invited both of them on a several day cruise on her yacht. Neither knew the other would be there. While on the boat they talked and talked and decided Ivanka would go through the degrading Chabad conversion process and and ritual baths.

    Supposedly the Rabbi’s treated her very badly during the conversion process, who knows.

    Why aRothschild was so determined the couple married is something to think about.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  173. @Twodees Partain

    Highly doubtful.

    I noticed that of the ~50 women who have since come foreward to accuse Epstein of rape, none of their fathers seemed to be aware of their daughters whereabouts when they were seeking Epstein’s company.

    There is no such thing as fatherhood in America. There hasn’t been for several decades.
    Fathers don’t produce women like Epstein’s accusers. What you call “father” is little more than a transsexual monkey, and a big part of what has destroyed our government.

    • Troll: NoseytheDuke
    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  174. @Rurik

    Could it be that a society in which jocks and cheerleaders are the first [mini] celebrities ‘we’ run into and where human garbage like the Cartra$$hians are elevated to stardom on TV, are a reason why ‘we’ have become what ‘we’ are, or is it a result of what ‘we’ watch and have ‘accepted’ as the new norm?

    Have you ever been backstage after a concert?

    When hormones raged through my body during my teen days, my pecker switched on and off quicker than a car’s blinker. Not an excuse, but a fact :o]

    • Replies: @Rurik
  175. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    You and your family traveled commercial. My sister always accompanied her UK citizen husband to the airport until the girls were 18 if he was taking them abroad by himself

    But we peons fly commercial and are subject to immigration and customs. The standards are much looser in the private and freight airports. Especially for people who are frequent flyers, own, don’t charter the planes, and belong to the expensive waiting lounge club.

    Plus there are many small airports where there is no customs and immigration and little over sight. A friend used to fly his plane from Chico in N California to small private airports in Mexico all the time for vacations. No customs and immigration in either country ever.

    There’s a very small airport in Half Moon Bay Ca, right on the ocean. Most of the planes there are small short range ones. But a few are the jets with 4,000 range. The place is unsupervised.

    Nothing to prevent anyone from just taking off from that airport to Tahiti, Philippines, mainland Asia. Nothing to prevent someone filing a flight plan from any city in the US to Half Moon Bay: refueling there and taking off for the Philippines or anywhere.

    Florida is surrounded by foreign countries. I’m sure there are many private airports where planes go back and forth to the Islands and Central America without going through customs and immigration

    Plus, most of us borrowed and lent Dr licenses to be used in bars and buying alcohol. Virginia Roberts looks like every other pretty, regular featured, blue eyed light brown haired girl. Just use the passport of a similar looking 20 year old.

    That’s if they went through any but the most cursory customs and immigration.

    The rich live very differently from us.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  176. Alden says:
    @Sulu

    And just how do you know that tween and teen girls constantly view internet porn and see every possible sex act???? Personal observation is the only way you could form that opinion.

    More and more I believe that you old perverts who constantly rant about the immorality of tween and teen girls don’t have your own children. I believe the only knowledge of tweens and teens you have is from internet porn sites.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
  177. utu says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Now even in the MSM:

    Jeffrey Epstein book claims he and Ghislaine Maxwell were ‘Mossad spies’ who ‘filmed US politicians and power players having sex with underage girls to blackmail them’
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7761169/Jeffrey-Epstein-book-claims-Ghislaine-Maxwell-Mossad-spies.html

    “The claim is made in Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales, a new book by American Media Inc’s Dylan Howard, Melissa Cronin and several other reporters who claim to have worked for eight years to unravel ‘an international conspiracy the likes of which we have never seen before.’ ”


    Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales by

  178. Alden says:
    @Twodees Partain

    What Sam really has to worry about is law enforcement. Just as marketers and advertisers roam the internet, so does law enforcement.

    Look for the just addresses of car dealerships and for the next year you’re inundated with car ads. Buy a plane ticket same thing.

    Law enforcement doesn’t just look at porn sites. Their programs roam Facebook, Twitter all websites looking for red flag words and phrases such as teen age slut, girls grow up on internet porn, etc

  179. @Art

    The Jew innocent – the gentile girls – cows.

    Epstain’s personal pimp and co-sexual abuser, Ghislaine Maxwell [wtf’ she still walking around free for?], referred to the underage girls as ‘Nubiles.’

    When [abused] girls inform the police and the FBI and nothing really happens, the justice system is corrupt and dysfunctional. A total clean-up is needed to empty this morally bankrupt pigsty and get rid of all those clinging onto power based upon their greed, not with a mandate given to them by ‘we’ the people.

    We have to end it, one way or another. Write and call those who represent you, until they do something about it and organize into groups to overwhelm the system.

    • Replies: @Art
  180. bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=2847

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  181. I think the message is pretty clear. If they were partners and she has never faced indictment, they are only after him.

    The fact that the case did not include them both from the start suggests whatever the issues, they are not currently interested in her.

  182. @Alden

    I’m 30 years old so I grew up with teen girls who had access to porn. They consume it voraciously. Furthermore, some of the things I heard coming out of 8-15 year old girls mouths would blow your mind, perhaps even blow your head off.

    Sulu and I may be more informed and realistic than you are, and your judgment is clouded as a self-deluded parent. You don’t want to acknowledge that any child could be filth because it opens up the possibility that your daughter is filth. Or maybe you yourself were a teenager of ill-repute and don’t want to remember that. Quite a few women on the AltRight fit that descriptor.

    The younger generations? We don’t fall for your Gen X/Boomer crap about white females. We have seen the gremlin inside of them unleashed. Only Asian, Hispanic and mixed race women deserve the benefit of a doubt in the 21st century.

    • Replies: @Alden
  183. Anon[550] • Disclaimer says:
    @Miro23

    The REAL problem is that nobody gives a damn (in the REAL life). It’S easy to make blogs or articles, but if does not translate into actions in the real life, then IMHO the blogs and articles are useless.

    BFP Roundtable: Pedophiles Run the Government & No One Gives a Damn!

    https://www.newsbud.com/2015/10/22/bfp-roundtable-pedophiles-run-the-government-no-one-gives-a-damn/

  184. Alden says:
    @Sam Coulton

    Are you a black low level street pimp who grew up in the projects with skank hooker mamma, grandma, aunts sisters and half sisters?

    You should really be careful what red flags you post on the internet. 👮‍♀️ 👮 cruise the internet looking for people like you. Your mention of 8 year old girls will bring law enforcement down on you.

  185. Alden says:
    @anonymous

    I remember NCY financial people claiming they’d never heard of Epstein’s hedge fund or anything he did.

  186. Alden says:
    @utu

    I referred to the NYC hasids not anyone else.

  187. Anon[137] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    9/11, the Maxwells and Wallersteiners; Stowe School Cabal and SARAH THE DIRTY DUCHESS

    https://forums.richieallen.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=1462

  188. Anon[137] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    EMMY TAYLER – GHISLAINE MAXWELL’S FORMER P.A.

    Ghislaine Maxwell’s former personal assistant, Emma F. ‘Emmy’ Tayler, is a resident of Oxford, United Kingdom.

    According to Twitter user @AwfySore:

    “Emmy Tayler – British Actress linked to Jeffrey Epstein – [flew] 191 times on Lolita Express”

    Emmy Tayler’s late father worked as a curator at the Pitt Rivers Museum, a component of Oxford University, where it is understood that both Emmy and her mother volunteered in years gone by.

    What could Emmy Tayler tell police and prosecutors about Ghislaine Maxwell’s activities with Jeffrey Epstein?

    And how did Emmy Tayler — who grew up in Britain — come to be working for Ghislaine Maxwell ‘Stateside’ in the first place?

    Is the Oxford University link significant?

    BALLIOL COLLEGE, OXFORD

    Balliol College, Oxford reportedly “manipulated its admissions policy” to admit the Maxwell siblings.

    This is according to Oxford Mail journalist Chris Gray, who writes:

    “It seems remarkable that this most ‘woke’ institution – as we would now think of it – should have shown itself able to manipulate its admissions policy to assist one family establish an educational tradition in this way.”

    Balliol people include:

    1. Ghislaine Maxwell

    2. Kevin Maxwell

    3. Ian Maxwell

    4. Philip Maxwell (‘Was accepted to Balliol, but fled to Argentina’)

    As well as:

    5. Sir Edward Heath MP (the late serial pedophile)

    6. Julian Lewis MP (whom Scallywag Magazine alleged was connected to a pedophile ring at London’s Dolphin Square complex)

    7. Stephen Twigg MP (formerly Islington Borough Council, at the heart of a child abuse scandal)

    8. Dame Cressida Dick, Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police (currently refusing to investigate allegations of sex trafficking involving Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew on UK soil)

    9. BORIS JOHNSON, Prime Minister

    Currently a graduate student at Oxford University, not necessarily at Balliol College:

    10. Imogen ‘Imo’ Wallersteiner – The granddaughter of the late Robert Maxwell’s business partner, Kurt Wallersteiner.

    Imogen Wallersteiner is the daughter of Kurt Wallersteiner’s son, a man named Dr Anthony Wallersteiner.

    Dr Anthony Wallersteiner is the Headmaster (Principal) of Stowe School, where Ghislaine Maxwell is known to have attended at least one charity fund-raiser sponsored by Cantor Fitzgerald of 9/11 fame.

    Dr Anthony Wallersteiner is close friends with Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York, and may be presumed to know at least some of the Maxwell clan – given that his own father was Robert Maxwell’s business partner.

    Imogen Wallersteiner follows the Pitt Rivers Museum at Oxford University on Twitter and is interested in conservation work and museum work.

    Could Dr Anthony Wallersteiner of Stowe School — and/or his daughter Imogen or other members of the Wallersteiner family — have a longstanding connection to, or interest in, Oxford University and specifically the Pitt Rivers Museum, WHICH PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH A YOUNG EMMY TAYLER BEFORE SHE MOVED TO AMERICA AND GOT A JOB WITH GHISLAINE?

    The Wallersteiners of Stowe School and Oxford University seem to be important keys to unraveling the Maxwell family’s involvement in Mossad, as well as the alleged role of Emmy Tayler in the New York based enterprise

    See:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1189549880680820737.html

    https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18082027.gray-missing-missing-miss-maxwells-many-questions-epstein-andrew/

    https://qresear.ch/?q=emmy+tayler

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SVVHWmosg6Y_N0l3DPOiAFiJ-_iaR7dDI4fXexMeoJ0/edit#gid=1653242376

    • Replies: @annamaria
  189. bjondo says:

    The cubicle habarats have
    called in the sewerrats.

    From cubicle clowns
    in Telaviv and/or NYC
    to low life provocateurs
    with malicious intentions.

    5ds

  190. @EliteCommInc.

    Former FBI official Ted Gunderson, in an interview to EIR editors Jeffrey Steinberg and Carol White, warned about the spreading plague of satanism and satanic-related crime and
    sharply criticized the bureau for covering up the crisis.

    Gunderson attacked Lanning’s recent claims that the number of documented cases of missing children in the United States last year was under 100, with the majority of those cases being teenagers fleeing rotten home environments

    “I am convinced that the FBI does not ask for these statistics because they do not want to see them. They would be confronted with an instant public outcry for action, because the figures would show a major social problem.”

    “I am convinced that we are confronted with a serious satanic penetration of every level of society, government at every level.”

    EIR Volume 17, Number 23, June 1, 1990

    Gunderson had spent 28 years with the FBI, ending his career as the senior special agent-in-charge of the Los Angeles Field Division, directing 700 employees. Would he be lying?

  191. AZ says:
    @Trinity

    … what in the hell does that this demonic witch named Ghislane Maxwell..

    But it is obvious. Only the Jews are human! The rest are trash (this not racism).

  192. Anon[187] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Coulton

    I see a lot of scrutiny on Epstein but very little on the ambitious pubescent runts that voluntarily associated with him for free shit. Why would you trust a 14 year old tart’s word?

    Thank G-d that someone’s pointed out the uncomfortable truth! But you don’t go far enough, Sam, my boy. These ambitious pubescent runts were clearly anti-semitic and almost certainly working on behalf of Iran and/or Putin. They could have run their scam on a goy businessman, but no, they had to target a naïve, trusting and easily manipulable Jewish boy whose compassionate and caring nature rendered him helpless before their shiksa wiles.

    And after they’d made all those millions from poor Jeffrey, leaving him with barely a Caribbean island or two to his name, what do the anti-semitic media do? Pretend that the Jeffrey — the victim!!! — was somehow the one to blame for what those pubescent shiksa tarts had tricked him into doing. It’s a disgrace. Someone should tell the ADL.

  193. Miro23 says:
    @Art

    The fix – is turning to local ownership of government by local property owners.

    Shrink and dump the nation state.

    I agree with this. There was a recent article by John Derbyshire saying that US government was so broken that a wholesale replacement by a system that works (example Swiss Democracy) would be the way forward.

    Obviously it wouldn’t be an exact copy, but it could catch the main ideas of active citizen participation, voting issue by issue, and most taxation being collected and spent locally.

    A key is the building a sense of community, and – just out of interest the town that comes top of Britain’s happiest places to live (Daily Telegraph) is Hexham in Northumberland – with the mayor highlighting the strong sense of community and history in the place:

    1. Hexham, Northumberland

    Hexham is Britain’s happiest place to live, due to its neighbourly spirit, access to green space and feeling of safety.

    There’s a community-owned cinema as well as a thriving theatre and arts centre. The town also boasts a rich cultural heritage, it is a gateway to Hadrian’s Wall, and it has more than 200 listed buildings, which is one of the highest ratios per building of towns an equal size.

    Property is also reasonable: the average asking price of a home in the town is £254,237, nearly £50,000 lower than the national average of £302,808.

    Bob Hull, mayor of Hexham, says the town’s victory isn’t just to do with its attractions and value for money. “We have a really strong sense of community up here, which I think is a major reason why residents feel so happy living in Hexham,” he said.

    • Replies: @Art
  194. @9/11 Inside job

    bellaciao.org: ” Israeli Sexpionage : The McGreavey , Condit and Clinton Affairs ” By Ernesto Cienfuegos :
    “…a factor that is very important for Israel in keeping a profitable symbiotic relationship with the USA
    is sexpionage . Sexpionage is so important for Israel that it has opened an office for this purpose right smack in the center of US political power – Washington D.C. ”

    Were Chandra Levy and Monica Lewinsky “swallows” ?

  195. Sink says:

    Where were the parents of the “under age” girls?
    Why were the girls allowed to go with Epstein un escorted?
    What was the legal age of consent?
    If the girls were of legal age and took money is that not prostitution?

    • Replies: @Alden
  196. “Gunderson had spent 28 years with the FBI, ending his career as the senior special agent-in-charge of the Los Angeles Field Division, directing 700 employees. Would he be lying?”

    Not everything about a dispute means someone lied. They are people whether police, prosecutors, judges, witnesses, etc. that are consumate liars, Some just lie on occassion, some rarely and of that same number — they are driven by certainty that is simply — wrong.

    And I do no dismiss that they are well sincere and well intentioned.

    Now due to the resulting near hysterics and agenda setting the government has sadly been changing its tune and it behavior by changing definitions, making it easier to prosecute people as if the multiple prosecutorial disasters of these cases haven’t destroyed enough lives.

    Now I have read your document enough to understand why the prosecutors as intense as their prss was declined to dig any further into the tunnel and sacrificial underground locations — they would have come out looking even more foolish.

    Now to avoid the inevitable accusation that I am a tool of Satan and most likely a pedofile, I am going to refrain from going any further. I can say with some confidence there are people abusing children and they should be dealt with. I have no doubt that some of them work for the government. And there prosecutions that abuse the supposed victims and destroy innocents in their zeal and desire to save face and we should be prudent when accusing people.

    The McMartin prosecution was one of those tragic community and life destroying incidents, with a host of more to follow. And with increasing vigor it appears that supposed christians continue to be unwitting tools in sharpening the blades of disreputable governments practices that will one day be at the throats of believers, and it will be as an intended good to protect children from the faith and practice of their loving parents.

    Or perhaps, you haven’t noticed the rulings in CA. regarding how parents are to respond to a child’s musings about their gender and intimate expression.

    Agent Gunderson was retired and I have no doubt on a sincere crusade. The report was privately funded.

    • Replies: @Alden
  197. annamaria says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    Nancy Pelosi has been recently spoken about protecting a “civilization.” One wonders, what is her model of “civilization.” Madame Pelosi has been on the closest terms with Podesta brothers, Bill Clinton the perspective First Husband (and very active friend of Epstein); add to that Pelosi’s very special relationships with the Mossad-controlled “intelligence community” in the US. Some “Pelosi civilization”.

  198. Alden says:
    @Sink

    Epstein pled guilty to 2 charges, procuring for prostitution and procuring for prostitution of minors . The girls weren’t charged with prostitution.

    That’s all.

  199. annamaria says:
    @Art

    No, no… His opuses of apologia for Jeff E. are greatly appreciated by the ADL and Mossad. Just wait when the ADL establishes that Jeff E. was innocent and it was the witch-hunt of antisemites, which hurt the blessed memory of the Bill $ Hill’ best friend.

  200. Alden says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    That ruling was in Texas. The judge ruled against the parent who wanted to turn her boy into a girl.

    That sets a precedent against any parent who wants a sex change for his her child. It was an anti sex change decision.

  201. annamaria says:
    @Anon

    Thank you! A great trove of information.

    It is amazing how nicely the protection of high-level criminals in the US merges with the protection of high-level criminals in the UK. Whether Cheney, or Blair, or Clintons, the justice system is so very delicate with the mega criminals.

    The US injustice system (hey, Pamela Karlan and your esteemed colleague Alan Dershowitz):

    When [abused] girls inform the police and the FBI and nothing really happens, the justice system is corrupt and dysfunctional.

    The UK injustice system (hey, the war-profiteering Emma Arbuthnot and the obliging Deborah Taylor):

    Dame Cressida Dick, Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police (currently refusing to investigate allegations of sex trafficking involving Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew on UK soil)

    What’s wrong with Oxford?

    Cressida Dick is the third and youngest child of Marcus William Dick, Senior Tutor at Balliol College, Oxford, and Cecilia (née Buxton), a University of Oxford historian.

  202. Rurik says:
    @dc.sunsets

    We cannot save the masses (because they’re frankly no better than animals for the most part…, but we can choose our own paths and do our best to teach our kids to see what’s real (and thus hopefully better navigate their own lives.)

    the conditions in which we live are literally long-lived fads that are collective stupidity covered in pervasive rationalizations.

    mothers happy to see their daughters pursue economic independence (career) to the exclusion of marriage and child-rearing. Both seem oblivious to their kids making decisions they’ll spend most of their lives regretting.

    You’re right, of course. (and well said ; )

    Yet, as the lemmings trod over the cliff, it’s still painful to watch. Also, as they leap, they’re not just dooming their own lives, they’re taking Western civilization with them.

    The real question is, with this particular fad of stupidity, what looms at the bottom of this abyss?

    Our ancestors survived hardships unimaginable, but they persevered, and the only way they did so, was in the wombs of their young women. Soon, ((their)) demographic fait accompli will become fact, and the world’s only ‘super-power’ will be in the hands of people like Hillary and Adam Schiff.

    our ancestors survived worse.

    Well yes, there were the diseases and wild animals and pestilence, wars and plagues and Mongol and Muslim hordes and droughts, but I don’t think they ever had to deal with this ..

    I guess as with all things, time will tell..

    Cheers.

  203. @Alden

    But we peons fly commercial and are subject to immigration and customs. The standards are much looser in the private and freight airports. Especially for people who are frequent flyers, own, don’t charter the planes, and belong to the expensive waiting lounge club.

    Plus there are many small airports where there is no customs and immigration and little over sight.

    My understanding is that international passengers on private jets have to send copies of their travel documents and passenger manifests ahead of time for prior approval and that they do have to be cleared by customs and immigration.

    Did not Rush Limbaugh get into trouble arriving in the US on a private jet from the Dominican Republic with prescription Viagra in a container labeled by a pharmacy with someone else’s name? (This was a very strange and foolish thing to do, because Viagra is available over the counter in all pharmacies in the DR.)

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-detained-with-viagra/

    If what you say is true, then it would be very easy for any number of central American immigrants to fly into remote airfields ad lib, and any idea such as a wall along the ground would be moot.

    • Replies: @Alden
  204. “That ruling was in Texas. The judge ruled against the parent who wanted to turn her boy into a girl.”

    That’s great for Texas. But that is not the case in CA., Minnesota, New York . . .

    furthermore, my comments don’t limit the ethic in question to operations to add or detract human organs. It’s in reference to a compendium of issues rooted in the perspective. And in every state psychologists, psychiatrists, counselors in schools and out are advising that parents follow a child’s lead on these issues . . .

    And I would encourage you to ask anyone who has had to deal with the power of CPS . . . the sex trafficking, child abuse scenario is no longer just a case by case issue. As the person advocating for the McMartin case and the comments noted above — this is advocated as global phenomenon — it has little in the way of actual teeth, but it has legs and the cottage industry into which millions are being poured has no intention of departing quietly – even if that means accusing anyone who introduces reason into the matter of being part of the conspiracy or satan cultism, ritual abuse of rape, murder and trafficking.

    A single case in texas Oy.

    • Replies: @Art
  205. Rurik says:
    @Daniel Rich

    …where human garbage like the Cartra$$hians are elevated to stardom on TV, are a reason why ‘we’ have become what ‘we’ are…

    Of it, there can be no doubt.

    Yet, I’d like to pretend that there is some kind of limit to the moral and spiritual sewage they force-inject into society. When suburban Christian fathers send their daughters to Christian universities in the hopes that their daughter will hook-up with a semi-literate athlete, who can run fast, I start to wonder at the depths.

    ‘Wow Pumpkin, did you know Shawn Oakman had 128 tackles and 17.5 sacks in three years?!’

    ‘If my little girl could only figure out a way to date Shawn Oakman, well then Praise the Lord! Our family will be the envy of the whole church!’ I’d be sooo proud of you honey’. Didn’t you say you wanted that risqué dress you saw Kim Kardashian wearing? ‘Well Pumpkin, if you promise you’ll wear it for Shawn, then daddy will buy it for you!’

  206. Trinity says:

    Can you just imagine if the people running this pedophile/sex trafficking honey pot trap were Russian? Hell, what if the people running this operation were “white nationalists?” Do you think the Jewish CONTROLLED media would have a problem pointing out the OBVIOUS? NOT ONE SINGLE REPORTER, even Tucker Carlson and certainly not the slavishly pro-Zionist shill Pawn Vanity aka Shawn Hannity or Lush Limbaugh have made the connection. Yes sir, Tucker, ( better than the rest but still not a 100% truth speaker) or the blowhard Lush Limbaugh can figure this thing out. Pawn Vanity, Judge Jeanine, Ingraham? hahaha. These are the supposed speakers for the “conservative movement” and saving and they are the anointed few committed to speaking the truth to power. Talk about CONTROLLED OPPOSITION. Maybe someone like Michael Weiner will point out the truth? hahahaha.

  207. @EliteCommInc.

    You go your way.
    I’ll go mine.
    Don’t trespass. Just a friendly suggestion.

  208. Art says:
    @Miro23

    I agree with this. There was a recent article by John Derbyshire saying that US government was so broken that a wholesale replacement by a system that works (example Swiss Democracy) would be the way forward.

    Obviously it wouldn’t be an exact copy, but it could catch the main ideas of active citizen participation, voting issue by issue, and most taxation being collected and spent locally.

    The only rational, stable, and safe identity – is loyalty to the common ground of a local community.

    Irrespective of race, religion, and old-world lineage – the thing that matters the most, is that the local community and economy be functional – and that all its neighbors have a say in its workings. This must be based on local people owning all the local land. Commercial property should be owned by local people and leased out to businesses. There should be no control of local property and government by far away big money centers (NY London Paris).

    That is how early Christianity worked. Towns and villages controlled themselves. The nation state had not yet formed – it was a relative peaceful epoch.

    • Agree: Daniel Rich
    • Replies: @Miro23
  209. @Art

    The fix – is turning to local ownership of government by local property owners.

    Shrink and dump the nation state.

    No one will make a reasoned, committee level, collective and rational move to do this.

    But not to worry. The era of nation-states purporting to “represent” literally hundreds of millions of disparate people (and peoples) is coming to an end, and it is doing so because the very people who depend on and run those leviathans are destroying the pillars of their own temples.

    LOOK! The US government is now already so dysfunctional that it can’t police its own borders, enforce marijuana prohibition, enforce immigration laws, why, it can’t even rein in the Kritarchy, activist “judges” who dispense rulings based on absolutely NOTHING but their own ideological and ersatz religious sentiments.

    What single pillar of “the press” is their entire existence dependent upon? At least a partial perception that what’s reported is real. Ideology (more, again, an erastz religion) caused people who own and manage MSM outlets to diverge so far from obvious truth that only mental midgets (and cultist-zealots) still believe the sky is blue if the anchorwoman reads that on the teleprompter.

    Universities are busy destroying the value of their product, a college degree, so hard are they trying to graduate people who are LITERALLY too stupid to do basic algebra (see Detroit’s recent story about this.)

    Everywhere we look, institutions of our lives are all dying because of the actions of those who RUN them. It’s like a boat tour operator drilling holes in the hull of his own yacht (below the water line, of course.)

    Eventually, people will be freed to move and choose more favorable conditions. Gone will be all this forced mixing of people who can’t stand each other. Gone will be forced wealth and product redistribution. We all won’t necessarily be better off, today’s crappy things also assort with some nice things, too, and the latter will be lost when the former go away.

    Life will go on.

    • Replies: @Art
  210. @Sam Coulton

    There is no such thing as fatherhood in America. There hasn’t been for several decades.

    You need to get out a little more.

    Fathers don’t produce women like Epstein’s accusers.

    In this, we agree.

    By and large, it’s mostly women who are prone to “showbiz mom” behaviors, including pandering their kids for fame and fortune.

    I honestly figure that the “news” indicates a major case of selection bias. Those men who would without a second thought rip the heart literally out of the chest of someone who’d harm their son or daughter also tend to be those whose kids are kept out of such harm’s way. A man who’d blow the brains out the back of a queer pedophile’s skull is not the same man whose son is going into the woods with Scoutmaster Faggot.

    It’s kind of like the whole “concealed carry” phenomenon: tens of millions of Americans have permits and carry concealed guns, but we see extremely few news items where a licensed person shoots a robber/rapist/etc. because the people who carry are also the people who work hardest to avoid such trouble.

    We learn very little about the world by reading The News, because in almost all cases, those on whom Bad Stuff Falls are doing things the prudent among us would never do.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  211. Art says:
    @EliteCommInc.

    “That ruling was in Texas. The judge ruled against the parent who wanted to turn her boy into a girl.”

    An adult changing a child’s natural biological sex – is a crime against their personhood. They do not yet have their full intellectual capabilities. Medically changing sex is a personal decision for an adult to make.

    There is something wrong in a culture – if a small child even knows about sex.

    An effeminate boy or a butch girl can dress the way they want without a sex change. Then when THEY have their full faculties, THEY can make a decision.

    Society should say NO to sex changes for children — PERIOD.

  212. Art says:
    @dc.sunsets

    The fix – is turning to local ownership of government by local property owners.

    Shrink and dump the nation state.

    LOOK! The US government is now already so dysfunctional that it can’t police its own borders, enforce marijuana prohibition, enforce immigration laws, why, it can’t even rein in the Kritarchy, activist “judges” who dispense rulings based on absolutely NOTHING but their own ideological and ersatz religious sentiments.

    The only choice we may have in the future, is to go to local control of local regions and communities.

    The process of breaking up the nation state is already in progress. Language communities are wanting to split away from their nations. Geographic regions with multiethnic communities are looking to break away.

    It is happening – it is just a question of how long it will take and how painful it will be.

    p.s. The enemy of this is geopolitical Jew money.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  213. Sean says:
    @Alden

    Just focused on the accuser must be lying

    The best way to avoid people thinking you are a liar is to not tell spread falsehood about other people. Guifre accused the Gores of being at a table beside her on Epstein’s atoll, insisted to reporters that she was 15 in the photograph with Andrew( the Gore’s denied ever being there, in fact she was between 17 and 19 in the photo and she now admits). Guifre also said she slept with presidents and prime ministers, by which was clearly intended to imply Bill Clinton and Ehud Barak.

    While Epstein’s admitted activities with the Palm Beach schoolgirls leaves little doubt he had quite separately employed Guiifre for sexual services rather than legitimate massage (which exists and Andrew got a legit massage from an woman who came to the palace), and her being thus used by the admitted sex criminal is cause for sympathy to her, one is under no obligation to believe her word against any other man she happens to accuse. Her stories about Andrew have never been tested on oath, where she would be cross examined about things she has said that were not true.

    At the time Guiffre says she had sex with him Lady Victoria Hervey was Andrew’s girlfriend and is the slim blonde on the right. Hervey is almost six foot and was 23 years old at the time. Andrew could have had a much more petite and younger girlfriend if he was into that, but he was with her.

    It is true that the objects of Andrew’s sexual interest have got younger as he has got older, but in his early twenties he started with much older women. He once asked out a friend of the Queen who was almost two decades older than him.

  214. Art says:
    @Daniel Rich

    When [abused] girls inform the police and the FBI and nothing really happens, the justice system is corrupt and dysfunctional. A total clean-up is needed to empty this morally bankrupt pigsty and get rid of all those clinging onto power based upon their greed, not with a mandate given to them by ‘we’ the people.

    Hear Hear!

    The Jew MSM could have stopped these people in their tracks – it did not.

    Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell are Jews – tied to Israel.

    The rape of our youth went on because of Jew tribal business – PERIOD.

  215. Miro23 says:
    @Art

    The only rational, stable, and safe identity – is loyalty to the common ground of a local community.

    Irrespective of race, religion, and old-world lineage – the thing that matters the most, is that the local community and economy be functional – and that all its neighbors have a say in its workings. This must be based on local people owning all the local land. Commercial property should be owned by local people and leased out to businesses. There should be no control of local property and government by far away big money centers (NY London Paris).

    We’re getting off topic here, but local taxation and spending with a minimal central government and active voter participation would produce a much healthier society – and interestingly it would be racially neutral. For example majority Black counties would have to fund and sort out their own education, healthcare, policing etc.

    • Agree: dc.sunsets
  216. Johan says:

    “The timeline generated many comments at Unz.com but surprisingly most of them dealt whether Epstein was a pedophile or not. This despite the overwhelming evidence of pedophilia.”

    Pedophilia concerns the attraction towards pre-pubescents which is not tied to an age, but varies around say below 12 years for girls. The reason why the gutter press is using this word the whole time, instead of ‘minor age’ is because of the appeal to the simple minded blockhead public, in order to sweep their indignation and anger. The alternative media, is to a fair extent gutter media, little different from the rest. String pulling, sensationalism and demagogy.

  217. Trinity says:

    Are the Jews who ran this honey pot and their pet “elitist” shabbos goy clients, the same type of people who have told us for 70 plus years how evil Hitler and the so-called, “Nazis” were and what a threat nationalist socialist Germany was to “our freedoms?” So let me get this straight. We aren’t speaking German because we defeated those “evil racist Nazis,” but we now have the freedom to LITERALLY give our children to Zionist Supremacist and their pedophile elitist shabbos goy pets to be molested and abused for the purpose of blackmailing world leaders for the benefit of Israel and Jews? Given the picture that accompanies this article and given the testimonies by child actors like Corey Feldman, I wonder if these freaks molested young boys on Epstein Pedophile Island as well. You have to wonder if any of these victims were murdered as well? Maybe they should dig around and search the grounds around Epstein Pedophile Island.

  218. Johan says:

    The Epsteins of this world are merely, because of their wealth and connections, capable of customized extravagant debaucheries and abuse, for the masses of mere mortal earth crawlers there is porn and the cheap sphere of prostitution, which is legalized abuse, and there is the cheap stuff they can buy, made in Asia, in sweatshops, which is legalized abuse, say their excess is limited to the consumerist cheap reproduction and ‘assembly line’ market.
    Epstein should have waited until the minute they were eighteen, and should have offered them a legal contract, then the road is free for abuse.

    • Replies: @Dave Bowman
  219. Again, perhaps due to the lurid and spooky pics at the opening, the many comments totally miss the big picture. Okay, vast social moral decay is a pretty big subject. But what about the simple thesis that Mossad is behind this under age honey-pot? Does Mossad entrap VIPs with this sex scandal stuff for things like approving weapons deals, money laundering, and just generally insulating Israel from more scrutiny and accountability?

    I am temped to believe it. But where is some real evidence? Why not some examples of this? What happened to all the videos of X VIP w/Y 13yr. that the FBI or whoever seized?? There is a starting point. Prince Andrew might qualify but he can only be the tip of the ice berg. And it is much less about what he did to the girl than what he and other VIPs did for Mossad in return. Because, sorry, what is worse, a) raping a young girl or, b) being involved in the brutal repression and mass murders of untold thousands of people? Come on! Offer the dummies who took the bait immunity if they testify against the real monsters to help us get to the bottom of this horrific rot.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
    , @annamaria
  220. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    It is not for nothing that some commenters suggest that Gina Haspel and Ghislaine Maxwell are the best friends. https://consortiumnews.com/2019/08/12/how-holmes-would-work-the-epstein-case/

    We are talking about a large slice of the American elite – political, economic, legal, entertainment. … In addition, there is Prince Andrew and an array of Gulf sheiks. They all had a compelling reason to want to keep Epstein’s mouth shut. So, too, those who arranged his unprecedented, highly dubious plea bargain in 2006.

    That may include the FBI and/or CIA which had a strong situationally defined interest in getting their hooks into Epstein who was in a position to blackmail all of the above. So, too Mossad, Israel’s intelligence agency. Let’s note that Ghislaine Maxwell (Epstein’s No. 2 and sometime “partner”) is the daughter of the British publisher Robert Maxwell who is now known to have run an extensive intelligence network for Mossad among the London elite for which he was honored by President Shimon Peres and six former intelligence chiefs when buried in Jerusalem after a mysterious death off his private yacht in 1991.

    Current affairs: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/proposed-us-israel-defense-treaty-gaining-steam-after-pompeo-netanyahu-meet

    A proposed US-Israeli defense treaty is gaining steam after a meeting between Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Lisbon this week. … the pact would commit the United States to war to defend Israel. This also at a time when Israel has frequently attacked what it deems ‘Iranian targets’ inside Syria and Iraq in what both countries have condemned as acts of brazen aggression.

    From child prostitution worldwide to crimes against humanity in Palestine, mega financial fraud, incitement of the wars of aggression in the Middle East for Eretz Israel (plus war profiteering), and exhibiting the unbounded hatred towards Russia — the same “most moral” suspects show up.

  221. “Society should say NO to sex changes for children — PERIOD.”

    No argument from me. Parents certainly should. And non-family members should be prevented from interfering in that relationship.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  222. @Sean

    Prince Philip is not only Elizabeth’s husband but also her 2nd cousin. So they are not only Andy’s dad and mum, but each is Andy’s 3rd cousin as well.

    The surprising part is not that the British royal family is strange, it’s that it isn’t stranger.

    Buckingham Palace is a little bit of Appalachia in the heart of London.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @9/11 Inside job
  223. “You go your way.
    I’ll go mine.
    Don’t trespass. Just a friendly suggestion.”

    Well,

    I don’t have any issues with the common refrain, “Let’s just agree to disagree”.

    But I would need to explanation of what you mean by “trespass”. And posed as a warning . . .

    Laughing. Nothing friendly about that so pray do tell.

  224. @dc.sunsets

    tens of millions of Americans have permits and carry concealed guns, but we see extremely few news items where a licensed person shoots a robber/rapist/etc. because the people who carry are also the people who work hardest to avoid such trouble.

  225. @thotmonger

    What happened to all the videos of X VIP w/Y 13yr. that the FBI or whoever seized??

    They were taken in by the ‘Evidence Fairy’ for processing at a later date [like the 66th century].

  226. Sean says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    While you were composing that comment, others were image searching for Lady Victoria Hervey. So who’s the strange one?

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  227. annamaria says:
    @thotmonger

    “What happened to all the videos of X VIP w/Y 13yr. that the FBI or whoever seized??”

    — What has happened to Clinton’s emails? Why Alperovitch, the Ukrainian Jew in charge of CrowdStrike, has propelled the Mueller investigation against the sitting POTUS?
    The same lawless mega-wealthy deciders of Cheney kind who have zero respect for the US Constitution and who are pathologically devoid of any sense of decency have been involved in the Epstein-Maxwell-Mossad affair. They are still at the wheel, which explains why Chislaine Maxwell, the procuress of underage girls for the sexual pleasures of the lawless, has not been arrested and interrogated. She is their soulmate.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  228. “Blind Items Revealed #2
    August 13, 2019

    I have previously written about the procurer/madam/child rapist who befriended the celebrity CEO and who befriended her right back minus the George Clooney bathroom special. The celebrity CEO did spend time also with the pedophile getting advice, presumably not about pedophilia. The pedophile knew if this relationship became public, that it would be denied by the CEO and that is exactly what is happening now.

    Ghislaine Maxwell/Elon Musk/Jeffrey Epstein”

  229. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Well, just from observing the little Half. Moon Bay airport where any plane can just take off, plus my friend who flew from a small town in California to small towns in Mexico often, I believe the rules can be broken.

    Would be nice if the rich and powerful had to obey the same rules the rest of us obey. Epstein Werner and Maxwell did whatever they wanted no authority stopped them for 30 years.

  230. Alden says:
    @Sean

    Andrew was in his 40’s when that picture was taken with Giuffre. When was the picture taken with Hervey?

    And how does the picture prove Giuffre lied?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  231. @Art

    The only choice we may have in the future, is to go to local control of local regions and communities.

    You mean: “the only choice we will be given”.

    The process of breaking up the nation state is already in progress. Language communities are wanting to split away from their nations. Geographic regions with multiethnic communities are looking to break away.

    It is happening – it is just a question of how long it will take and how painful it will be.

    Yes but how organic is it? I’m not against it, but if it is for others to be big and strong so as to easier bully the small and weak … ??? … then I am opposed.

    p.s. The enemy of this is geopolitical Jew money.

    Or is it also actually promoted by the Jews? Isn’t it also per the protocols, this breaking up into small statelets? I can’t be bothered looking it up but I think there’s a protocol about it. Anyway Israel plans to grow and not to break up.

    • Replies: @Art
  232. @Kolya Krassotkin

    “About the satanic&pedophile practices of the English royal family ” dondevamos.canalblog.com :
    “The elite pedophile ring in England is not a myth …Children were sent to orgies ,prostituted in hostels and threatened [and murdered]…Of course no complaints had any results or inquiries made
    when powerful pedophiles such as magistrates [politicians] and cops were involved .The shadow of freemasonry lurked behind all these stories …Jimmy Savile , the BBC star [and close friend of Prince Charles] , was the provider of children for the Royal family and members of Parliament …”

  233. Sean says:

    Hervey says around 1999, 2000, when she an Andrew went on a date that came to nothing. . So it seems Hervey was too young for Andrew. He may well have slept with Maxwell back in the eighties though. I hate to keep on about this but Andrew married a woman who was older than him and then dated an American soft porn actress who was also older than him.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/02/prince-andrew-named-us-lawsuit-underage-sex-allegations

    Read the above, and it becomes obvious that while she was still saying that she started work with Epstein at 15 years old she was saying she met Andrew when she was 17. So now that we know she met Maxwell and Epstein when she was 17, the photo with Andrew can be estimated to have been taken when she was 19 years old, and shortly before she was sent to Thailand on a massage course and decided not to come back.

    Giuffre was precise about her age in that photo with Andrew over a long period of time antill Maxwell lawyers tripped her up with employment records. so she does not have premature Alzheimer’s. The reasons for thinking she had sex with Epstein are his conviction and known predilection for young girls. Andrew is quite the opposite

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/02/prince-andrew-named-us-lawsuit-underage-sex-allegations

    The woman, who filed the motion anonymously, alleges that between 1999 and 2002 she was repeatedly sexually abused by Epstein who, she also alleges, loaned her out to rich and influential men around the world. […]
    The document lists three locations where the woman alleges she was forced to have sexual relations with Andrew: Maxwell’s London apartment, Epstein’s private Caribbean island in what was allegedly “an orgy with numerous other under-aged girls”, and an undisclosed location in New York.
    […]
    The woman’s lawyers allege in their motion that, …, Epstein trafficked her to “many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders”. That she was in possession of a photo of her with Andrew allows her to name him, but who are these other top politicians and PM? Do they even exist?

    Andrew has been a celebrity and tabloid fodder but he was never ever any kind of power in the land. Even at the height of his fame he was regarded as a bit of a twerp. There is the photo but she was a masseuse and Andrew cannot be presumed to have had sex with every woman he touches. Here he is with the wife of a fellow guest on a yacht.

    About Guiffre having sex with Andrew I am dubious, and even more so about the orgy, but the assertion she makes that leaders of foreign countries were given her sexual services is certainly a lie in my opinion. Such an object of desire for men with their pick in their own countries would never have been working as a changing room attendant at 17, she’d be a model. Johanna Sjoberg with that story of sleeping with multiple world leaders, I could think there was something in it, but not Guiffre. Andrew does not come out of Sjoberg’s account very well though.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  234. annamaria says:
    @annamaria

    The Bolsheviks time in the USA: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-was-origin-trump-russia-collusion-hoax

    …on February 2, 2016, according to White House logs, Eric Ciaramella chaired a meeting in Room 374 of the Eisenhower Executive Office, which seems to be a planning session to re-open an investigation of Paul Manafort (Note: one of the crimes of which Manafort was accused was money laundering, an area covered by the Department of the Treasury). The attendees were:

    Jose Borrayo – Acting Section Chief, Office of Special Measures, U.S. Department of the Treasury, Financial Crimes Enforcement Network

    Julia Friedlander – Senior Policy Advisor for Europe, Office of Terrorist Financing and Financial Crimes, U.S. Department of the Treasury

    Michael Lieberman – Deputy Assistant Secretary, Terrorist Financing and Financial Crimes, U.S. Department of the Treasury

    Scott Rembrandt – Anti-Money Laundering Task Force, Assistant Director/Director, Office of Strategic Policy, Department of the Treasury

    Justin Rowland – Special Agent (financial crimes), Federal Bureau of Investigation

    It appears that Paul Manafort became a vehicle by which the Obama Deep State operatives could link Trump to nefarious activities involving Russians, which eventually evolved into the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. …

    Nellie Ohr, Fusion GPS employee and wife of Department of Justice official Bruce Ohr, not only worked with Christopher Steele on the so-called Trump dossier, but, in May 2016, was the conduit of information to her husband and two Department of Justice prosecutors of the existence of the “black ledger” documents that contributed to Manafort’s prosecution.

    At least, Epstein and the Mega Group have been exposed, which would never happen under Clintons. It is apparent that the FBI and CIA are Mossad subsidiaries and the Department of Injustice is a prostituting entity in service of the “haves,” nothing more. See the free-range Ghislaine.

  235. melpol says:

    It is beyond reason why billionaires had to depend on a creep like Epstein to acquire underage youths . Thousands of pimps are available worldwide to bring wealthy perverts all types of children. Epstein provided another service, he laundered the trillions acquired by the criminals through drug dealings. Discovering which nations Epstein laundered that loot with can be interesting.

    • Replies: @Sean
  236. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    “until Maxwell lawyers”

    — Who are those mysterious Maxwell lawers?
    We have got it already that Epstein is a victim of vicious antisemitism (according to the Gospel of Sean), though why doesn’t Sean show his literacy and read the numerous papers documenting Epstein’s “involvement” with the 13-year-old, 14-year-old, 12-year-old teens. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7371693/Jean-Luc-Brunel-gave-Jeffrey-Epstein-three-poor-12-year-old-triplets-France-birthday-present.html

    The same persistent question to you, Sean: How come that a Mossad agent, and procuress of teenage girls for sexual pleasures of powerful men, has not been arrested and interrogated? Don’t you remember the deafening squealing of the zionized MSM about” immoral” Assange? Even if the two adult women (in their late 20-s) were against the labeling Assange a criminal. And yet, the dirty rapist Madam Ghislaine Maxwell is untouchable both in the US and the UK. Why?

    The more noise you make about Epstein’s innocence, the greater the exposure of the corruption and filth on the top of the US/UK societies.
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/scrubbed-reports-reveal-new-secrets-of-the-prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-relationship/262330/

    Tell us Sean, why “Maxwell lawyers” have been intimidating the honest investigators: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-private-investigator-michael-fisten-says-hes-shared-names-of-two-female-fixers-with-feds

    “Once these girls lost their braces and their pubescent look and started becoming 16-years old or 17-years old, they were too old for him.”

    Perversion of Justice: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article214210674.html#storylink=cpy

    In 2007, despite ample physical evidence and multiple witnesses corroborating the girls’ stories, federal prosecutors and Epstein’s lawyers quietly put together a remarkable deal for Epstein, then 54. He agreed to plead guilty to two felony prostitution charges in state court, and in exchange, he and his accomplices received immunity from federal sex-trafficking charges that could have sent him to prison for life.

    He served 13 months in a private wing of the Palm Beach County stockade. His alleged co-conspirators, who helped schedule his sex sessions, were never prosecuted.

    The deal, called a federal non-prosecution agreement, was sealed so that no one — not even his victims — could know the full scope of Epstein’s crimes and who else was involved.

    • Replies: @Sean
  237. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    You are getting confused dear, refresh your memory at the link below, and get it into your head that I am talking about Giuffre in relation to whom there has never been a criminal prosecution or even charge against Epstein. Giuffre’s hearsay is not evidence.

    https://www.unz.com/article/is-jeffrey-epsteins-boss-ghislaine-maxwell-helping-mossad-run-pedophile-rings-for-prince-andrew-and-the-ruling-elite/#comment-3596788

    I have taken some trouble to set out why I think Giuffre is telling the truth about having sex with Epstein, but lying about having sex with prime ministers and presidents. and probabally about Andrew. We can see that she is ordinary looking, which is very plain by the standards of the young women Epstein surrounded himself with and we know she was untruthful to the media about her age when she met Andrew underestimating it by a full 2 and likely 4 years.

    In a nutshell, she originally said she was 17 when she met Andrew even though at that time she said she started with Epstein when she was 15. So the first story had her meeting with Prince Andrew two years after she started with Andrew. She now admits to being 17 when she started with Epstein yet is still saying she was 17 when she had sex with Andrew. This would mean she was 17 years old and taken on as an employee of Epstein’s and almost immediately was having sex with the only VIP she has any kind of evidence for.

    I think it is reasonable to conclude that she was 19 years old in that photograph with Andrew. She has a photograph as a memento of that visit, so though I am wary of believing her because of her previous falsehoods, it’s not crazy to think she did sleep with Andrew when she was 19 years old.

    However she was is most unlikely to have ever been a high class escort or courtesan, certainly not the most successful one of modern times by sleeping with prime ministers and a president. A girl would have to be tall and truly beautiful to have had a fraction of the “numerous world leader”conquests she asserts without details or names. If her blackmail story is true, I am curious as to why Epstein would give her that photo of her and Andrew and MaxwellMoreover she was sent to Thailand on a massage course by Epstein; going by Giuffre’s account of Epstein’s blackmail business, this would leave them without his top femme fatale.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Alden
  238. Sean says:
    @melpol

    https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/fidel-castro-quotes
    Fidel Castro slept with 35,000 women. The dictator had a rapacious sexual appetite, according to a former Castro insider. The New York Post reported that Castro had sex with at least two women a day; at lunch, dinner and sometimes at breakfast. His guards would prowl the beaches of Havana to recruit women. A Vanity Fair reporter in 2008 revealed that he loved to flirt and littered his speech with crude sexual innuendos. When asked how many children he had, he said, laughing, “Well, I don’t have a tribe. Not that much, fewer than a dozen.”

  239. Art says:
    @Commentator Mike

    p.s. The enemy of this is geopolitical Jew money.

    Or is it also actually promoted by the Jews? Isn’t it also per the protocols, this breaking up into small statelets? I can’t be bothered looking it up but I think there’s a protocol about it. Anyway Israel plans to grow and not to break up.

    Mike — Good point. Because of mendacious Jews aims – we cannot stop doing what is good for us – like restricting ownership of property to local folks. Right now, Jew Wall Street is buying up Main Street and as a result they control local government as well – this must stop.

    Sorry but in the final analysis– the Jews give us no choice but to deal directly with them and their money machine.

    Art

  240. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    I am not your “dear” — mind your manners.
    My post simply pointed to your strenuous attempts at whitewashing the Epstein’s crimes.
    There were kids as young as 12-year-old and 13-year-old at the “pleasure” places run by Epstein and Maxwell.
    The main topic of the article under discussion is the whereabouts of Mossad-connected Madam Ghislaine — why she has not been arrested and interrogated already. If you are able to convince the world that Mossad had the bestest intentions re the use of children for blackmailing p0urposes, you should contact the “Maxwell lawyers” to offer your valuable service.
    Similar to the sanctimonious peddlers of holobiz memes, who whitewash and even approve the crimes against humanity committed by the IDF against the occupied native population of Palestine, your sanctimonious lecturing on the age of the damaged girls is nothing but indecent. Perhaps, this is cultural considering the treatment of women by Haredim: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_separation_in_Judaism
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/10/outcast-3

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Sean
  241. @Alden

    What leads you to say that their hostess was determined they should marry?

    Also..

    Is it not a bit misleading to frame the question as why “a Rothschild” should be so determined? Wikipedia records no conversion to Judaism although the father of her children, her second husband, was probably Jewish and Evelyn de Rothschild is just her third husband.

    • Replies: @Alden
  242. @NoseytheDuke

    I don’t know why I bother to try and help you when it is laziness and lack of mental stamina which gets in the way of your attempting logical discourse.

    In this case it would have required you to notice that Sean had described Wexner as Epstein the con man’s mark who provided the money and mansion and that Altai had then speculated about how this could have happened especially as Wexner came to describe Epstein’s financial activities as theft. Your version of the “logical corollary” is entirely redundant. The question wasn’t about what the money was spent on but why. If you can’t see that ine possible reason might have been that Epstein was able to blackmail Wexner then you must have used up all your paranoid imagination on 9/11. Even Alden will be able to follow this.

  243. “Don’t trespass. Just a friendly suggestion.”

    Still waiting for this mysterious comment yo make sense.

  244. Alden says:
    @Sean

    Being tall has nothing to do with beauty.

    You are defending Epstein, Maxwell and Andrew by claiming Virginia Giuffre is lying about her age and Prince Andrew. Maybe she is. Fine

    Let’s stipulate to Virginia lied about her age and Prince Andrew . Or let’s completely forget about her.

    First fact you ignore is that when faced with a mountain of evidence of procuring for prostitution Epstein pled guilty to 2 felonies:

    1 procuring for prostitution
    2 procuring for the prostitution of minors.

    Second fact you ignore is the charge of procuring for the prostitution of minors was made because the detectives and DAs found plenty of minors Epstein procured for prostitution.

    Argue all you wish that 17-16-15-14-13-12 year old girls should be free to be prostitutes. Or that procuring for prostitution should be legalized.
    Your opinion doesn’t change the fact that both prostitution and procuring for prostitution are against the law.

    Third fact you ignore is that the county prosecutor dropped many other charges against Epstein under pressure from the federal government.

    Fourth fact you ignore is that Epstein’s other crimes in Florida New York and New Mexico were completely covered up until some of his victims filed lawsuits against him and Maxwell about their procuring them as minors for prostitution.

    Fifth fact you ignore is that when the lawsuits became known the Florida and NYC district attorneys decided to charge him with the charges that had been dropped in the original Palm Beach County case. Plus the crimes of procuring for prostitution and procuring of prostitution for minors in New York.

    Sixth fact you ignore is that Epstein was arrested last July on a warrant prepared by the DA’s office after intensive review of the evidence and approved by a judge; not because of Virginia Giuffre’s and her attorney’s claims in a separate case.

    Get your prurient interest away from teen girls and to the crimes Maxwell and Epstein committed and the fact that they were protected by the ((highest levels)) of the federal government

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  245. Alden says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    While planning their wedding, both Jared and Ivanka thanked Lynne Rothschild for getting them back together. Donald Trump did a major publicity blast about the wedding.

    The yacht reconciliation was mentioned in the endless articles about the wedding gown and the rest of it. Donald Trump paid for the wedding, but, the Kushners and their Rabbis arranged every detail according to the rituals of their bizarre cult.

    Ivanka’s conversion was in the Jewish community press for years. The sniping about her not wearing a dark brown page boy wig and gray snood on her head, 4 inches above the ankle baggy skirts, revealing her arms, and wearing colors other than black navy and dark gray have died down.

  246. Alden says:
    @annamaria

    Sean’s like many other of the sex starved men who comment on UNZ. Articles about women under 25 brings an outpouring of prurient interest of the kind that attracts investigation by law enforcement.

    Articles about women over 25 brings an outpouring of unleashed extremist hatred by some of the sex starved men of UNZ.

    Then there’s the fertility obsession of the 60 year old virgins and the fathers of 1 or 2 children urging, demanding, that White women have several children by the age of 25…….without any help from aWhite man, including conception.

    I’ve been cruising the conservative, pro White and White Nationalist sites since the early mid 1990s. And I’ve never seen the UNZ hatred of women in any other site. Maybe the other sites censor the women hating.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @Sean
  247. @Sean

    Well then, being your own grandpa isn’t strange if you’re from Appalachia or a member of the royal family, and poor Charles stiil worries about their losing their mystique, the last of which will disappear completely once his mother/3rd cousin Elizabeth passes away.

  248. @Alden

    You get more response out of talking to a wall. These hasbara critters have only one goal in mind: disrupt to natural flow of discourse and try steer it back into the dark corners of the web, were it prefers to flourish; in silence and out of sight. These clowns really hate the light that follows in the vortex of the wings of truth.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  249. @Alden

    I think it is unfair of you to refer to an “UNZ hatred of women” and in doing so you malign both the website and it’s readership. Certainly there are men across the age-range, race, cultural and political spectrums that do harbour anger and resentment towards women for a variety of reasons, often imaginary or due to their own limitations but the commenters who display those feelings in their comments are usually vehemently opposed by other commenters, both male and female.

    It’s rarely a good idea to generalise and in this case it is unfair and grossly wrong.

    • Replies: @Alden
  250. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Rich

    I know, it’s just I can’t lose the habit of writing legal briefs that lead to logical conclusions.

    It’s really only the British entertainment tabloids that feature the royal family that’s keeping the Epstein crimes in the news.

    Sean tries to distract us from Epstein’s crimes of blackmail and spying by focusing on Virginia Giuffre’s age at the time she serviced Andrew.

    Doesn’t work but sure wastes time.

    • Agree: utu
  251. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    My post simply pointed to your strenuous attempts at whitewashing the Epstein’s crimes.

    Cite? You cannot because I didn’t.

    The main topic of the article under discussion is the whereabouts of Mossad-connected Madam Ghislaine — why she has not been arrested and interrogated already.

    Pardon me, I stupidly thought the title ‘Is Jeffrey Epstein’s Boss Ghislaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite’ was the topic.

    Epstein had a lot of money and the criminal justice system of a particular US state is not able to double down on defendants like that. You may say it was a slam dunk case, but witnesses can be got at or manufactured, especially if there is the kind of money Epstein had available. There might be friends of the prosecution witnesses who turn up and testify that she told them it was a scam, and there is no denying Epstein was rich so that is a motive. The example of Michael Jackson being acquited must have loomed large in the minds of prosecutors. The cops and prosecutors found themselves being investigated by private detective (maybe turning up an affair that their wife would be upset to hear about) and under surveillance by people who for all they knew were ex cons likely to hurt the detectives’ families. The lead cop in the case actually said that was his fear.

    The prosecutors did not want a loss on their record, and if they tried to put him in prison for the rest of his life he had half a billion to spend for all they knew. In jury selection if the prosecution had gone for the maximum charges Epstein’s team certainly might have hired the kind of consultants that are highly successful in winning cases by winnowing out jurors likely to vote against the client before the case begins.

    In the proxy comeuppance of Gawker (who also did the dirty on Razib) Theil’s people focused on getting a certain type of juror. See The Most Expensive Comment in Internet History? Theil could use the legal system as others could not because he has MONEY. Money lets you do anything you want to do. If you want to help Israel you can do that more effectively if you are very rich. Ghislaine Maxwell’s father got a dowry of tens of thousand of pounds when he married her mother. In post ww2 Europe that allied to his talent for business made it a simple matter for him to make a fortune. Robert Maxwell was disgraced by his business practices, and he did not get rich by helping Israel. Wexner is super wealthy and a contributor to Israeli and Jewish causes.

    Does anyone seriously think that such a valued and honoured Jewish supporter of israel would be used in a Mossad operation. to commit the worst crime that a person can commit? Wexner’s association with Epstein was public knowledge. Intelligence operations are clandestine, run with cut outs, and the money trails are Byzantine. It is almost certain that as Wexner admitted he got duped into giving Epstein a power of attorney, whereupon he simply pinched hundreds of millions. Epstein then used the stolen money to pose as a brilliant businessman, philanthropist and Great Gatsby figure while actually having sex three times a day.

    He had the money and sex but the vanity required he be accepted as a big shot. Maxwell’s social skill were with high society, she had the contacts and was personable (few could stand Epstein) and looking for a man with the aura of her father. As it turned out Epstein was much more like her father than she realised because he committed suicide to leave others holding the bag just as Robert Maxwell had done to her brother. Din Ghislaine Maxwell know what was going on. The 17 year old personal masseuse Giuffre and the models yes she did, but she did not know about the 14 year old Florida schoolgirls because none of them even saw her and why would Epstein tell her that? She left him after he was imprisoned for it. Maxwell introduced Andrew to Epstein, but why Andrew and Ehud Barak were stupid enough to go to Epstein’s Manhattan mansion an predictably get photographed there I’m sure I do not know. Barak’s association with Epstein is pretty conclusive evidence in my mind that he was not running any under age sex ring for Mossad.

    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Ehud-Barak-crashed-at-Epsteins-apt-regularly-neighbors-say-report-597820
    New reports by residents of a building owned by Jeffrey Epstein’s younger brother indicate that former prime minister Ehud Barak crashed regularly at the building, which is located at 301 East 66th St. in the Upper East Side of New York.
    Despite attempts to downplay his ties to the billionaire following Epstein’s indictment on child sex trafficking charges, claiming he only met the financier “on occasion,” Barak’s involvement in the controversy grew as Israeli sources reported that he had received more than $3 million from Epstein-related institutions beginning in 2004.

    Epstein committed suicide after being hit with essentially the same charges in Federal court as he had years earlier pled guilty to in Florida. This is a common strategy by Federal prosecutors as it is a slam dunk. However Trump’s pick for Attorney General was in on the Florida deal Epstein had got in return for pleading guilty. And Dershowitz was also being accused by Guiffre (who perhaps not coincidentally is being represented by a the firm of a long time rival of Dershowitz’s) had infuriated the liberal media–and many Jews–by being highly effective in defence of Trump while acting as a legal commentator.

    Epstein could have fought the original Florida case with a better chance of getting an acquittal than a pauper. The victims would have got little or no compensation if he had been acquited as Michael Jackson was. The majority of cases end with a plea deal: an accused pleads guilty to lesser number and severity of charges than he was originally arraigned with (the original charges are a stick to get the accused to take the carrot of lesser punishment, thus the original charges are ALWAYS more serious and numerous that the prosecutors have good evidence for). In return for admitting guilt, he receives a lesser punishment, for sentencing is less about the judges discretion than what the the conviction is for nowadays.

    Definition of a deal: both sides have to give something. He admitted guilt, paid the victims tens of millions in compensation and got leniency. Not a mystery and in fact more par for the course than egregious. He also suffered the ruin of his reputation. The Florida case involved him getting girls from the local schools and having them come to his Palm Beach house. His alleged co-conspirators were the girls he paid to recruit for him who were young women themselves and subcontracted to the 14 year old and others. The 14 year old got into a fight over the recruiting at school and was found to have a lot of money on her the principal called the cops and they investigated. The 14 year old was at the centre of the whole thing so she could give them the names. No cut outs, pseudonyms or safe houses and they knew exactly who he was. Not exactly the actions of a skilled covert operative by my way of thinking. More like a decadent man who has grown insouciant.

    Epstein paid bills for Andrew’s ex wife and kid, he was far wealthier than Andrew, who is not and has never been a person of influence in Britain by any stretch of the imagination. Epstein collected such people. Interestingly, Robert Maxwell was known for giving, eg Peter Jay the son in law of the PM and former British ambassador to Washington, jobs and them humiliating them. If a Mossad operative, the daughter of a gentile mother Ghislaine would have been killed, as Epstein would have too. Kill the suspects and kill the case. But Epstein was a John, pimp, and con man on his own account, and Maxwell just another woman who fell for a man just like the father she had idolised.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  252. Sean says:
    @Alden

    Sean’s like many other of the sex starved men who comment on UNZ. Articles about women under 25 brings an outpouring of prurient interest of the kind that attracts investigation by law enforcement.

    Epstein was sex starved, was he? A surfeit rather than lack of sex with beautiful women any time he wanted; any way he wanted; as often as could possibly want; different one each time, was a big part of why he went the way he did with the younger and younger girls. Hugh Hefner is said to have went a bit gay. Sex starved men will loosen up their requirements and view older women as more desirable. Paedofillia just is just not that common.

    https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/27/15873072/google-porn-addiction-america-everybody-lies About one in 100 porn searches are for the elderly. Hundreds of thousands of young men are predominantly attracted to elderly women. […] Among other things, Stephens-Davidowitz’s data suggests that there are more gay men in the closet than we think; that many men prefer overweight women to skinny women but are afraid to act on it; that married women are disproportionately worried their husband is gay; that a lot of straight women watch lesbian porn; and that porn featuring violence against women is more popular among women than men.

    Then there’s the fertility obsession of the 60 year old virgins and the fathers of 1 or 2 children urging, demanding, that White women have several children by the age of 25…….without any help from a White man, including conception.

    Hatred of the unwhite more like because you hate what you fear. Affluence reduces birth rate so its a non-starter to increase white fertility sufficiently, Even if every white man became the perfect husband and provider to a white woman in a long term monogamous committed relationship with as many kids as they wanted to have, immigrants being excluded and immigrant communities being forcibly expelled from the West is the only real alternative to slow but sure replacement. But calling for that would get you arrested.

    And I’ve never seen the UNZ hatred of women in any other site.

    I have never seen as many questionably posed photos of little girls in my life as on this post. Heaven only knows what the author DeWit’s motives are.

    • Replies: @Alden
  253. Alden says:
    @Sean

    “Sean’s like many other of the sex starved men who comment on UNZ “

    I wrote you, Sean and sex starved men UNZ commenters, not sex starved Epstein.

    I can see through and refute your Talmudic distractions immediately and stay with the real issue.

    Not all the shiksas in the world are stupid, no matter what you were told at Jewish summer camp and your morning shul.

  254. @Alden

    And how does the picture prove Giuffre lied?

    Don’t know if this is relevant, but Giuffre says she was 17 on the night she was taken to Tramps, where Prince Andrew bought her alcohol, but nightclubs in Britain have a strict 18-year-old age limit admission restriction.

    Now, it is possible that the process of age checking was subverted by Prince Andrew or Epstein, or waived for them, but at least others must have known. Or it is possible that Giuffre was not admitted to Tramp.

    Andrew has said that he never drinks alcohol himself and never bough alcohol for Giuffre, but if he did buy alcohol for the underage girl at Tramps, how did he make the payment? Cash or credit card, etc.

    Somebody knows some of the answers to these questions, but unless witnesses including Giuffre are examined under oath, there will always be reasonable doubt as to whether she is telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

    To me the story about the orgy with eight other girls who spoke little English in the Virgin Isles is also highly questionable. If they did not speak English, what language did they speak, and what country or countries were they from? If they were staying on the island over a weekend, or whatever, then surely Giuffre must have had more contacts with the other girls than just being introduced to them at the orgy.

    To get them from, say Eastern Europe or Thailand or the Dominican Republic, for example, would require that many people knew about the large scale recruitment and trafficking of girls, all of whom appeared to be underage to Giuffre from somewhere to the Virgin Isles, and private planes have records which could be examined around the dates of the alleged orgy.

    Or it could be fantasy or exaggeration on the part of Giuffre. Again, one would want to know the answer to many questions under oath to be able to assess the probability that her version is true, and not a fantasy, or something that has some underlying basis in truth, but is massively exaggerated.

    https://www.newser.com/story/279062/fbi-agents-raid-epsteins-private-island.html

    As others have said, Giuffre seem to have lied before about dates and ages, and yet in the age of the Internet it is not hard to check dates.

    For example, I am 68 years old, so my memories of youth are fading, but in the summer of 1966, I remember watching a cricket at my school on a sunny afternoon. I do not remember the exact date off the top of my head, or even the month, but I remember listening to the radio commentary on a transistor radio of the World Cup quarter final in which North Korea sensationally took a 3-goal lead against Portugal, before succumbing 5-3 and being eliminated from the World Cup.

    Actually the date was July 23rd, and it only took me a few seconds on Google to confirm and that is one day 52 years ago when not much happened to me.

    If you are going to go public with very serious allegations of sexual abuse and trafficking, don’t you think you would want to do a bit of research first? Giuffre has made comments like saying of one photograph taken in New York: “I appear to be about 16 in that photograph.”

    Well, the pictures were only taken circa 20 years ago, so it should not be hard to pin down what year this happened. Like what grade were you in high school at the time, was it during the spring break or summer vacation, what songs were popular at the time, what was in the news, what was going on in your family, etc. etc.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Sean
  255. Alden says:

    Age of consent in England is 16 for girls. Legal age to buy alcohol is 18. Illegal for adults to buy alcohol for under 18s to drunk in bars restaurants. Legal for adults to give under 18s alcohol at private events.

    So if she had sex with Andrew she was of legal age. If she was acting as a prostitute it was a violation of the prostitution laws.

    But unless Andrew gave her or Epstein/Maxwell money for the specific sex act it wasn’t prostitution.
    Therefore, if no money was exchanged for those specific acts there was no prostitution.

    Giving someone a $5,000 piece of jewelry or something else of value in exchange for sex doesn’t fit the legal definition of prostitution.

    So far, the only “ crimes “. Andrew and Virginia may have committed was buying a 17 year old alcohol and Virginia drinking it in a bar or restaurant. If, if she was 17 at the time the she drank it. If they’d gone out side the bar and she drank it outside the bar it would not have been a violation of any law or regulation.

    Britain and Europe has a much much more lenient view of alcohol for young people than America does.

    You could ask Mr google what the English penalty, if any, is for an over 18 person buying alcohol in a bar for an under 18 person. A waiter might ask a young woman for an ID. A 4o year old man who bought a drink for his date would not be asked for ID.

    Or you could find out the exact date of the Tramps visit, the date is allegedly on the back of the photo although there’s no proof when that date was written. Then compare it with Virginia’s DOB.

    Epstein committed numerous crimes other than arranging 3 dates between Andrew and a 17 year old.

    Virginia is not suing Andrew. She’s suing Maxwell for defamation and perhaps procuring. There are several find a lawsuit sites on the internet. If you’re so interested look the lawsuit up. Try Virginia Roberts Giuffre vs Ghislaine Maxwell Et Al.

    The Virginia Andrew thing is the least of Epstein’s activities. The sex wasn’t illegal in England.

    Nothing there except prurient interest.

    Virginia’s lawsuit against Maxwell has nothing at all to do with black mail, procuring for prostitution, money laundering, embezzlement and other crimes committed by Epstein and Maxwell Et Al. The Et Al includes his brother, Mark, Wexner and others.

  256. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Tramps isn’t just a bar. It’s a private members only club. It has a restaurant, bar, dance floor, music and other features.

    In England minors can legally enter a bar and restaurant an any age. We’ve done it in London and other places in England with our kids at various ages. No one asked for Id from the teens.

    Legal for minors to enter a place that’s a combo bar and restaurant.

    Virginia and Andrew at Tramps is just a distraction from serious spying blackmail money laundering and other serious crimes.

  257. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    “…witnesses can be got at or manufactured…”
    “He [Epstein] also suffered the ruin of his reputation.”
    “Barak’s association with Epstein is pretty conclusive evidence in my mind that he was not running any underage sex ring for Mossad.”

    — Here we are. Sean just cannot help himself but whitewash the Jewish criminal Jeff Epstein implicated in the rapes of the 12-, 13- and 14-year-old kids. Moreover, the tenor of your posts suggests that there is an antisemitic injustice towards both Epstein and Ghislaine.

    Oh, poor, poor Epstein: https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20190725/jeffrey-epstein-sheriff-bradshaw-adds-criminal-probe-to-local-investigation
    “The governor’s statements came on the same day that state Sen. Lauren Book, D-Plantation, revealed that she was receiving threats for having called on the governor to order an FDLE probe.”
    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html

    “This was not a ‘he said, she said’ situation. This was 50-something ‘shes’ and one ‘he’ — and the ‘shes’ all basically told the same story,’’ said retired Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter, who supervised the police probe.

    The Herald also identified about 80 women who say they were molested or otherwise sexually abused by Epstein from 2001 to 2006. About 60 of them were located — now scattered around the country and abroad. Eight of them agreed to be interviewed, on or off the record. Four of them were willing to speak on video.

    The women are now mothers, wives, nurses, bartenders, Realtors, hairdressers and teachers. One is a Hollywood actress. Several have grappled with trauma, depression and addiction. Some have served time in prison. A few did not survive. One young woman was found dead last year in a rundown motel in West Palm Beach. She overdosed on heroin and left behind a young son. …

    Despite substantial physical evidence and multiple witnesses backing up the girls’ stories, the secret deal allowed Epstein to enter guilty pleas to two felony prostitution charges. …

    “It’s just outrageous how they minimized his crimes and devalued his victims by calling them prostitutes… There is no such thing as a child prostitute. Under federal law, it’s called child sex trafficking — whether Epstein pimped them out to others or not. It’s still a commercial sex act — and he could have been jailed for the rest of his life under federal law. …

    Unlike other convicted sex offenders, Epstein didn’t face the kind of rough justice that child sex offenders do in Florida state prisons. Instead of being sent to state prison, Epstein was housed in a private wing of the Palm Beach County jail. And rather than having him sit in a cell most of the day, the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office allowed Epstein work release privileges, which enabled him to leave the jail six days a week, for 12 hours a day, to go to a comfortable office that Epstein had set up in West Palm Beach. This was granted despite explicit sheriff’s department rules stating that sex offenders don’t qualify for work release.

    Who needs your apologia for the Mossad agents? You are not convincing — same as the holobiz-propagandizing zionists in the context of Israelis’ crimes against humanity in Palestine.

  258. Joachim Hagopian , ” Pedophilia & Empire : Satan , Sodomy & The Deep State ” See Chapter 14 “The Jeffrey Epstein scandal – Anatomy of the Zionist- Illuminati Sexual Blackmail System ” :
    “…The Jeffrey Epstein story reveals how agents from a foreign government can hijack and control the US government . What will be presented here is the anatomy of a sexual blackmail operation orchestrated by Israel’s Mossad as a means of gaining and maintaining control of America’s foreign policy and top leaders …”

  259. @Johan

    Epstein should have waited until the minute they were eighteen

    … but that means that you have completely missed the point about Epstein and the other freaks like him – which is, that he would never have wanted to “wait until the minute they were eighteen” in the first place. That is because – exactly as with the Jews’ closest blood-cousins the Moslems – normalised, commonplace, religiously-institutionalised sexual attraction to MINORS (ie, paedophila) is, and always has been, a prime Jewish Male proclivity.

    What part of “Semitic moral perversion” don’t you understand ?

  260. @Sam Coulton

    “pubescent runts” ?

    “14 year old tarts” ?

    Go away and do a little basic reading around the laws of sexual contact with minors – and precisely where the legal responsibility lies – and get back to us.

    Better still, don’t. We have more than enough paedophile degenerates to deal with already, without adding random spastic half-wits who imagine they’re intelligent enough to make the grade at this website.

    • Replies: @Alden
  261. Sean says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    In her TV interview Giuffre implied Maxwell was always taking photographs for the purpose of blackmail, yet Guiffre has got ahold of that incriminating photo of her and Andrew and Maxwell! Mossad operatives would not have let that photo out their grasp.While she was still saying that she started work with Epstein at 15 years old she was saying she met Andrew when she was 17. As now established from the records of the resort where she met Maxwell and got recruited as Epstein personal masseuse, even though she had was at that stage only an changing room attendant and aspiring masseuse without skills or experience.he was 17 when she met Maxwell. The visit to London and being photographed with Andrew most likely was when she was 19 years old. She says she was a sex slave but she was a paid employee and was in a relationship with Epstein’s bodyguard. She had said she met Al Gore and his wife at a dinner party on Epstein’s Island but they say they have never been there. And she never mentioned Dershowitz until after a journalist working on a book manuscript with her mentioned him.

    Giuffre probably was careless and was thinking of a book and media interviews rather that standing up to a grilling by lawyers with private investigators researching the records at first. then Trump got elected and serious people became interested in the possibility of getting Trump. Guifre met Maxwell at a Trump resort, Trump knew Epstein and Trump’s defender in the US media Dershowitz (now widely loathed as a traitor by liberals) is one of those accused by her of having sex with her. She has not said who the “numerous world leaders” or the “well known prime ministers” and a president she had sex with are. Her accusations against Andrew and Wexner are not entirely without credibility but the idea that she was an international sex queen to the world’s elite is preposterous. She is ordinary and could not have easily got a job as a legit masseuse in the Trump’s Palm Beach resort , those women are all seriously attractive as well as having the training and qualifications that means they are older. Even so Epstein was banned from the resort after making a pass at a resort masseuse. I think it is clear Epstein had a fetish for massage. Guiffre was hired because she was young and an aspired to be a masseuse. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/02/prince-andrew-named-us-lawsuit-underage-sex-allegations

    She led her father to understand she had met the Queen, but Guiffre said her father had misunderstood. Her father who also worked at the resort ran her to the interview for the job with Epstein, and while she told him about her travels she never mentioned the sex stuff, which went on with Epstein no question. But the thing is she was lying to her father for years while she was being paid by Epstein about what she was doing. The Ransom woman falsely claimed to have sex tapes of Clinton and Trump. If Trump had not been elected this would be a lot less of a story by now.

  262. lick bees says:

    Is Jeffrey Epstein’s Boss Jizzlaine Maxwell Helping Mossad Run Pedophile Rings for Prince Andrew and the Ruling Elite?

    No.

    Tune in next week for another episode of Simple Answers to Stupid Questions!

    Stupid questions like this make you get everything wrong. They get tripped up at the outset by a fundamental misunderstanding of CIA operations, which are always designed to be deniable. CIA got busted pimping prostitots for pedo blackmail with the Finders, Boy’s Town, the Presidio, Sandusky/Third Mile (now absorbed by the Bush family’s Arrow Child and Family Ministries,) and Reeve Whitson’s Manson psyop.

    But some sneaky Jew State Jew pops up and says Ha ha, we did it! And you fall for it. As if CIA is going to give away its most effective means of VIP control.

    Epstein bragged about being a CIA big shot. He was involved in several other CIA lines of business, including money laundering and gun running. If you now decide he was really a wily Mossad double agent, flying around humping jailbait under CIA’s nose, there is no hope for you. You need a primer in CIA ratfuck procedures:

    https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/12/inside-the-organized-crime-syndicate-known-as-the-cia/#more-99372

    This is a CIA blackmail ring. Very simple. Don’t get all wrapped around the axle.

    • Replies: @Sean
  263. Alden says:
    @Dave Bowman

    I agree, much too much prurient interest on this website.

  264. mcohen says:

    There is picture of epstein in a navy seal uniform.can anyone confirm if it is real.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10505670/jeffrey-epstein-harvey-weinstein-princess-beatrice-birthday/

  265. Sean says:
    @lick bees

    Like any self respecting secret agent, Epstein invited a New York Times reporter over and boasted of having blackmail material on VIPs. He told this to a journalist in 2018

    The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful PeopleAlmost exactly a year ago, on Aug. 16, 2018, I visited Jeffrey Epstein at his cavernous Manhattan mansion.

    The overriding impression I took away from our roughly 90-minute conversation was that Mr. Epstein knew an astonishing number of rich, famous and powerful people, and had photos to prove it. He also claimed to know a great deal about these people, some of it potentially damaging or embarrassing, including details about their supposed sexual proclivities and recreational drug use.

    Jeffrey Epstein was meeting with Silicon Valley reporters before his arrest, ‘rambling’ about all the people he knew in tech. Quite separately, two reporters who saw Epstein (on Madison Ave and at a premiere party, described his gait as “shuffling”.

  266. Sean says:

    The author seriously suggests Ghislaine Maxwell assisted by Tony and John Podesta abducted Madeline McCann, and that Maxwell was behind the non existent Pizzagate. He decorates his post with sexually suggestive photographs of very young looking girls. Then he and his supporters call anyone who disagrees with them deluded, a misleader and sick in the head.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  267. utu says:

    Shocking photo of Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein and Ghislaine Maxwell attending Princess Beatrice’s £400,000 Victorian-themed ‘coming-of-age’ 18th birthday party piles fresh pressure on Prince Andrew
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7770127/Shocking-photo-Epstein-Weinstein-Maxwell-attending-Princess-Beatrices-18th-birthday-party.html

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  268. Sean says:
    @Altai

    Wexner said it was only in 2005 when Epstein was convicted on the sex charges that and he began to be suspicious of him and disengage. Inn the process of divesting from Epsteint his people discovered what Epstein had been doing with the authority over the Wexner fortune he had been given. Epstein presented himself as a tax avoidance expert, and Wexner got took.

    A lot of tax evasion involves what is called a discretionary trust, which amounts to giving up control of your money to some offshore entity so that you cannot be taxed on it. But the trust owns the money and the trust’s nominees totally control the money. I think Wexner might not have had much of a case in law and also super rich people cannot easilly state their true wealth on oath without opening themselves up to a massive tax demand.

    From what I have read Wexner got back around $100 million from Epstein, but if Wexner had wanted more and went to court Epstein would have made him pay it would have backfired on Wexner financially. Also there would be catastrophic bad publicity for Wexner’s women’s clothing brands empire which could make them worthless. Epstein could threaten to tell what he knew (made up) about Wexner and young girls in court, and his customers would desert him. he’d have been wiped out.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @annamaria
  269. @utu

    In the photo which appeared in the Daily Mail ,isn’t Epstein wearing a Navy Seal dress uniform with medals! Former Mossad motto ” By way of deception thou shalt do war “.

  270. @Sean

    Wexner is known to be gay.

    Come now, not everyone who spent a night drinking and eating and mooching of Epstein did so because of the relatively rare disorder of pedophilia.

    Andrew possibly. Maybe Bill Clinton.

    For example, Donald Trump’s tastes run to legal-age supermodels in their twenties.

    • Replies: @Sean
  271. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    Sean, why are you so eager to protect the Mossad assets, despite the overwhelming evidence of their heinous crimes? How come that your mom failed to teach you when people are indeed “sick in the head?”

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  272. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    Les Wexner is a big-time criminal, not some innocent agnus dei. He is an heir to Meyer Lansky criminal empire. https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/ Your propaganda is ridiculous.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  273. annamaria says:

    For Sean and his coworkers:

    The Mega Group, a secretive group of billionaires, was formed in 1991 by Charles Bronfman and Leslie Wexner… Media profiles of the group paint it as “a loosely organized club of 20 of the nation’s wealthiest and most influential Jewish businessmen” focused on “philanthropy and Jewishness,” with membership dues upwards of $30,000 per year. Yet several of its most prominent members have ties to organized crime.

    Mega Group members founded and/or are closely associated with some of the most well-known pro-Israel organizations. For instance, members Charles Bronfman and Michael Steinhardt formed Birthright Taglit with the backing of then- and current Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Steinhardt, an atheist, has stated that his motivation in helping to found the group was to advance his own belief that devotion to and faith in the state of Israel should serve as “a substitute for [Jewish] theology.”

    Other well-known groups associated with the Mega Group include the World Jewish Congress — whose past president, Edgar Bronfman, and current president, Ronald Lauder, are both Mega Group members — and B’nai B’rith, particularly its spin-off known as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). The Bronfman brothers were major donors to the ADL, with Edgar Bronfman serving as the ADL’s honorary national vice-chair for several years. …

    Sam Bronfman had long-standing deep ties to organized crime, specifically Meyer Lanksy’s organized crime syndicate.

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/shocking-origins-jeffrey-epstein-blackmail-roy-cohn/260621/

    Key to Bronfman’s success during American Prohibition were the ties his family had cultivated with organized crime during Canada’s Prohibition, ties that led many prominent members of the mob in the United States to favor Bronfman as a business partner. Bronfman liquor was purchased in massive quantities by many crime lords who still live on in American legend, including Charles “Lucky” Luciano, Moe Dalitz, Abner “Longy” Zwillman and Meyer Lansky.

    Most of Bronfman’s mob associates during Prohibition were members of what became known as the National Crime Syndicate, which a 1950s Senate investigative body known as the Kefauver Committee described as a confederation dominated by Italian-American and Jewish-American mobs. During that investigation, some of the biggest names in the American Mafia named Bronfman as a central figure in their bootlegging operations. The widow of notorious American mob boss Meyer Lansky even recounted how Bronfman had thrown lavish dinner parties for her husband.

  274. Anon[259] • Disclaimer says:

    Oh good, Sean is here with the official CIA bullshit [273], just in time to debunk the blindingly obvious with convoluted nonsense. Sean’s sure to get his Boy Scout Junior Spy Cadet Merit Badge now! Sean’s new explanation for mental defectives plays lame word games with the outmoded and ambiguous phrase “secret agent.” Sean’s trying to make you go, “Doi?!? He can’t be a secrit agent, he isn’t secrit!!” This is how stupid Sean thinks you are.

    As anyone cleared for SCI knows, illegals have a choice on the ground: low profile or high? Sean thinks you’re too stupid to comprehend this, so he hopes to trick you. Epstein could rock his high profile like a big swingin’ potato-dick because CIA deniability results from his bullshit Mossad legend. His cartoon Mossad handlers gave every jot and tittle of the take to CIA. They were cutouts.

    Your government is CIA. Period. They delegate a lot but they make sure it all gets done because they can kill you or torture you and get away with it. All their real secret agents are moles in the US government. So give it up, you CIA worms. Russia knows which buildings to nuke, and I hope they make it snappy.

  275. Sean says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Giuffre says she had sex with Wexner. On being reminded by her journalist colaborator about the existence of Dershowitz in an email, Guiffre then remembered she had sex with him too. She is represented pro bono by Dershowitz’s long time rival David Boies

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Boies. … representation of Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore in Bush v. Gore,[3] and for successful representing of the plaintiff in Hollingsworth v. Perry, which invalidated California Proposition 8 banning same-sex marriage. Boies has defended numerous other high-profile clients in the United States, including Theranos, tobacco companies, and Harvey Weinstein.

    In my opinion the whole thing started as a book by Guiffre who missed out on compensation(probably 19 years old when she met Andrew) but saw tens of millions was paid to the Palm Beach schoolgirls. It then became a shakedown of Wexner (he is rich and vulnerable enough to pay a massive out of court settlement to avoid the publicity ) and Dershowitz. I think after Hillary lost the media used it to target Trump.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  276. @annamaria

    Sean is indeed a joke, if only he were funny as well. But I ask for too much.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @annamaria
  277. Sean says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    You cannot hide money, The joke is that Lansky could not pay medical bills for his son, but fools believe he was worth $300 million because Robert Morgenthau said so. DA’s investigators and journalists exaggerate the importance of criminals. They are all masterminds ruling an invisible empire. Pulp fiction.

    It’s ludicrous to think that Mossad would involve honoured Jewish billionaire and contributor to Israeli and Jewish causes in a radioactive operation like child sex rings or blackmail, and also implicate the ex Prime Minister and head of Israeli military intelligence was not was turned off either.

    Do the words tradecraft, cut outs, safe houses, legends, clandestine, covert, secret have meaning? How about blowback, agent of influence, and strategic deception? Epstein sought publicity, and even told an NYT reporter one of many he spoke to in his last year or two that he had compromising material on VIPs. He would have been disposed of immediately if he had been in on a highly sensitive operation of the kind being suggested by this post, and started talking to journalists about it.

    The man literally did no work at all and spent all his time having sex, recovering than have sex again ect ect, all day every day for decades. To find a new thrill he started paying younger and younger girls and he ended up in extremely serious trouble very quickly because he took absolutely no security precautions. The knew who he was and where his house was and what it looked like inside and could collaborate each others’ accounts of illegal sexual activity and there were dozens of them. Your average drug dealer would have been vastly more careful than Epstein. Latterly he was rambling and had a shuffling gait. But you continue to think he was a mastermind, if believing such things gives you pleasure. Being addicted to pleasure and indulging in it 24/7 is a very different thing to contentment though, as Epstein found out.

  278. annamaria says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    He uses certain idiomatic expressions suggesting that he is from a family of the Soviet emigres to Israel. They are incorrigible. Ever-whining “victims.” Disgusting.

  279. @annamaria

    How come that your mom failed to teach you when people are indeed “sick in the head?”

    I’d fully expect Epstain’s lawyers to fleece any evidence, any clue, any eyewitness nearly to death, and keep twisting and turning facts in order to get their client off the hook.

    The people who keep defending this perp [Epstain and assorted pedos] and whitewash what these child molesters did, are not Epstain’s lawyers.

    They, therefore, must have ulterior motives. Most likely induced by a collective need to protect a fellow tribeswo/man.

    Obviously, they don’t give a f*** about the [female] victims, whom they happily blame for Epstain’s [and cohorts’] molestation of underage girls [regardless of their ages].

    A great way to expand my ‘Commenters to Ignore’ real estate.

  280. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    “It’s ludicrous to think that Mossad would involve honoured Jewish billionaire and contributor to Israeli and Jewish causes in a radioactive operation like child sex rings or blackmail…”

    You overestimate zionists’ decency — actually, they have none.

    “Wiesenthal Center names UK’s Corbyn top anti-Semite of 2019. … Ahead of Thursday’s British elections, Labour chief placed above US synagogue killer on group’s annual list; rabbi warns electing him would make UK a ‘pariah’. ” https://www.unz.com/ishamir/for-the-love-of-jews/#respond

    This is the same Simon Wiesenthal Center that refused — refused! – to condemn Banderites and instead has offered support for the allegedly reformed neo-Nazi. https://portside.org/2014-11-20/how-israel-lobby-protected-ukrainian-neo-nazis

    In case you are not aware who the Banderites are\were, here is the basic information: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/09/stepan-bandera-nationalist-euromaidan-right-sector/

    • Replies: @Sean
  281. @Sean

    Wexner is not even a closet gay. He came out in like the nineties.

    If she were a he, I’d believe he was diddling high school boys. I’m sure he has. But its hard to believe that he was into underage girls.

    Much is made of Hillary Clinton at those parties. And Trump’s then wife. So all of these straight women turned suddenly gay at the sight of a myopic crass callow poor white girl and fitted on the strap-ons?

    Yeah right.

    Did Epstein involve a few rich people in this? Andrew? Maybe. Did everyone who ever showed up to mooch off Epstein or get him to stash their money in some offshore tax shelter tear down their pants to molest young girls?

    Nope. But whenever there is a backlash because some rich person has exploited a poor one, another Jew gets involved and finds a way to make money out of it.

    So now these girls-who never blabbed that Hillary was doing them with a strap-on or that The Donald was lubing it up-suddenly remembered this?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @Sean
  282. @Jeff Stryker

    You seem to watch porn a lot, I would suggest that you stop it before you go blind.

    Certain wealthy people throw parties in large homes where there’s wild stuff going on in some of the rooms there and the targeted people who’ve let their guard down are encouraged to get involved. If their more base urges override their good judgement and they do participate and the dalliance is caught on video then they are henceforth completely owned under threat of exposure leading to humiliation, loss of reputation and ostracisation.

    It’s simply a tool used for control, total control.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Sean
  283. @Sean

    artvoice.com : “The veiled threat of Freemasonry : The Masons founded Ku Klux Klan & The Mafia ” By Frank Dux :
    “In the 1880’s Guiseppe Mazzini , a 33rd degree Freemason spearheaded the Italian Revolutionary movement …in the process the Mafia was born ….Mazzini’s secret society supported themselves by robbing banks , looting or burning businesses if protection money was not paid and kidnapping for ransom .Throughout Italy the word spread ‘Mazzini Autorizza furti , incendi e attentati ‘… This phrase was shortened to the acronym M.A.F.I.A .Organized crime was born ”
    “Likewise former Confederate General Albert Pike , a 33 degree Freemason…influenced by Mazzini founded the Ku Klux Klan .
    “Members of the Mafia turned ‘states evidence’ declare Freemasonry is directly linked to organized crime , especially the Italian Mafia .
    “‘You must conceal all crimes of your Brother Masons …and should you be summoned as a witness against a Brother Mason always be sure to shield him…It may be perjury to do this ,it is true , but you are keeping your obligations …’ “

  284. @EliteCommInc.

    No argument from me. Parents certainly should. And non-family members should be prevented from interfering in that relationship.

    Broken bones are a good deterrent.

  285. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    Wexner and Dershowitz are not only Jews but valued public supporters of Israel. Dershowitz has long been very important as a media commentator and virtual attack dog against pro Palestinian or even neutral tendencies. Under Trump he is much, much more valuable than ever. It is inconceivable that such assets and influence would be risked. If you look at Epstein, who no one ever saw do anything resembling work, he was far less careful than Weinstein even though the latter was successfully running a high stakes business. Epstein would have been disposed in 2005, not offed in such a way that everyone thinks he cheated justice or was silenced by a cabal of elite perverts running the world. The Mossad chief would have the Israeli prime minister screaming at him “You stupid bastard !”

    • Replies: @annamaria
  286. Sean says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Guiffre hever said she was under eighteen when she was with Wexner . By her own account she worked for Epstein untill she was 19 years olde

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/dershowitz-epstein-victim-accused-billionaire-les-wexner-of-sex-abuse-to-obtain-money
    [Giuffre’s attorneys] Sigrid McCawley and David Boies went to Les Wexner’s lawyers and said that Les Wexner had sex with Virginia Giuffre between five and 10 times and that Les Wexner insisted that she wear Victoria’s Secret-type lingerie.

    Sounds pretty normal to me, Dick Tracy. If Guiffre’s attorney were using this scenario their investigation must not have discovered that Les Wexner had long ago came out as being gay. Boies uses Black Cube (AKA Mossad Squad) as he did when the represented Harvey Swinestein.

    Hilarious that Wexner needed to bang Epstein’s help. He is the CEO of the conglomerate that owns Victoria’s Secret, and a multi billionaire to. Old Les could get at least one set of Victoria Secret lingerie delivered to his mansion with the supermodel from the ads still in it.

    And I can’t imagine any reason for having that conversation unless it was part of an effort to obtain money

    Wexner is seen as a weak old man worried about his reputation, and so shakedown artists are targeting him. Epstein’s fortune will be discovered to be an order of magnitude less than the prosecutors say despite their assertion that they found documents in his safe putting his worth at $500 million. That is maybe another reason why Wexner is being targeted, the suited sharks know he has serious money enough that he could pay out and not miss it.

  287. Whitney Webb : ” Mega Group , Maxwells and Mossad : The Spy story at the heart of the Jeffrey Epstein scandal ” :
    “The Mega group’s role in the Epstein story has garnered some attention , as Epstein’s main financial patron for decades , LESLIE WEXNER , was a CO-FOUNDER of the MEGA group that unites several well-known businessmen with a penchant for pro-Israel and ethno-philanthropy …another uniting factor among MEGA group members is deep ties to organized crime , specifically the organized crime network … led [at one time] by notorious American mobster Meyer Lansky .” mintpressnes.com

    • Replies: @Sean
  288. “Broken bones are a good deterrent.”

    Only as a matter of defense of family and/or self.

    • Agree: dc.sunsets
    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
  289. Sean says:
    @9/11 Inside job

    The point of being a gangster is to operate by fear, and people need to know your reputation to be intimidated by it. You cannot be a secret gangster. Wexner is a womens clothing designs genius. He knows what women want to buy and that is why he is a multi billionaire. Meyer Lansky could not pay his own family medical bills.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  290. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Among his many bragged about occupations, Jeff was a porn distributor. Los Angeles produced, sold in Dubai. He treated us to his puritanical shock and horror at what went on in the building where the porn movies were made.

  291. Sean says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Where do I sign up!

    Jeff may be interested in Badcock on Annus

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-imprinted-brain/201610/the-dark-side-oxytocin

    Compared with participants receiving placebo, participants receiving oxytocin lied more to benefit their groups, did so quicker, and did so without expectation of reciprocal dishonesty from their group members. A control setting ruled out that oxytocin drives self-serving dishonesty. These findings support the functional approach to morality and reveal the underlying biological circuitries associated with group-serving dishonesty.

    Annus argues that the facilities for both religion and nationalism are implicitly given by modules in brain architecture. Religious and national feelings emerge as natural products of the pro-socially wired brain. Therefore, he thinks that a human society without a religion or national feelings is impossible.

  292. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sean

    Wexner’s no genius.

    Lerners was the biggest American manufacturer and retail seller of low priced well made beautiful clothes for women 12 to 50 for decades. A bit lower than Sears prices, much prettier clothes. Wexner bought the company continued the same pricing and design and moved the manufacturing to Asia Bangladesh India Pakistan then China. Same price, same clothes, greatly reduced cost of manufacturing, vastly greater profit.

    Victoria’s Secret is just regular women’s underwear, sleep wear , bathrobes, some shorts and tank tops with glamorous, sexy Fredericks of Hollywood advertising. One can buy the same thing at any department store or catalog in the country.

    Marketing women’s underwear and sleep wear to men with a fashion show was a streak of genius. But did Wexner or his advertising geniuses come up with Victoria’s Secret advertising ?

    There are rumors on the internet Wexner brings in vast amounts of illegal drugs to the freight airports along with the clothing manufactured overseas. No proof. Who knows? American buyers, Cambodian Bangladesh work force and factories, enough profit without illegal drug smuggling

  293. Anatman says:
    @FB

    What an utter gamma male troll. “Der blame all da rich folk!” Sure, yeah, that’s the reason you couldn’t get laid in high school. Meanwhile, just turn a blind eye to any obvious meddling by Mossad and the Israeli lobby. I don’t see Warren Buffet’s name anywhere near the government-sanctioned pedophile rings. Nor Bill and Melinda Gates, and not even the disreputable Koch brothers.

    @Ron Unz, please for the love of God start banning these useless turds.

    • Replies: @Sean
  294. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    You are still trying to describe the psychopaths as if they were decent people. Why do we need to point, for you, again and again, towards the totally unprincipled, indecent, unscrupulous behavior of ziocons nested at the ADL, AIPAC, AEI, the ghastly Mega Group, and such. Moral abnormality.
    Exhibit one: MSM. All one needs to know is who controls the means of mass information in the US/UK. https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2019/12/horowitz-tries-to-whitewash-the-fbi-but-fails-by-larry-c-johnson-.html

    • Replies: @Sean
  295. Forced to choose. With Jeff Epstein dead under their watch, the New York police department is either a) the most incompetent in the world having let this high profile prisoner commit suicide, or b) somehow complicit in the most audacious assassination in modern times. Or maybe Epstein bought a double to be his corpse and is lounging in Odessa right now?

    Meanwhile, the VIP-blackmailing rumors nag.

    Synopsis: The American public, growing a bit sore about being misled by Israel First to support several unnecessary wars, now hears rumors about an extravagant sex trafficking ring run by Mossad in order to blackmail many leading politicians and VIPs to approve or remain silent about yet more and far more atrocious crimes. Economic, political and brute war crimes. False flags? Murders. Cyber security attacks. Technology theft, nuclear threats, cloning an army of perverts… where does it stop? Or is it all baloney?

    I mean, I am eager to believe it, but just because Epstein and Maxwell were often in contact with possible Mossad personalities where is the real evidence? e.g. Who was actually blackmailed? What did Israel get in return? Investigators and journalists need to pinpoint this down a lot better. And one way to beef up this time line is to better explain to readers how widespread and monstrous are the doings of Mossad. From Norway, to Central America, to New Zealand, it is not pretty.

    https://www.tnp.no/norway/panorama/4434-former-mossad-chief-admits-lillehammer-murder-in-1973-norway-israel

    https://www.wrmea.org/1990-february/what-you-won-t-read-about-michael-harari-noriega-s-israeli-adviser-who-got-away.html

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/8649223/Mossad-spy-ring-unearthed-because-of-Christchurch-earthquake.html

  296. Sean says:
    @annamaria

    You are still trying to describe the psychopaths as if they were decent people

    We are decent people they are psychopaths, and if you asked they they would have the same idea about us. Psychopath only has meaning in relation to someone who preys on their own group. Doing bad stuff to other people’s for your group is self sacrificing not selfish in an individual sense. Psychopathy is when you turn on you own, and become what the Chinese call a running dog.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-imprinted-brain/201610/the-dark-side-oxytocin

    These findings support the functional approach to morality and reveal the underlying biological circuitries associated with group-serving dishonesty.

    Annus argues that the facilities for both religion and nationalism are implicitly given by modules in brain architecture. Religious and national feelings emerge as natural products of the pro-socially wired brain. Therefore, he thinks that a human society without a religion or national feelings is impossible.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  297. Sean says:
    @Anatman

    https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/politics/article/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell
    It’s hard to have conversations like that without mentioning names of people in the news and people in the know, and whichever name came up, he seemed to know them, have a story about them: Bill and Hillary Clinton, of course, of whom he spoke with what I would call realistic fondness (he liked them, but was aware of their flaws); then the economists Larry Summers and Alan Greenspan, Rupert Murdoch, Anna Wintour. You name them and he had stories, and views, about them.

    Bill Gates met with Epstein.

    • Replies: @Anatman
  298. annamaria says:
    @Sean

    ” Doing bad stuff to other people’s for your group is self-sacrificing, not selfish in an individual sense.”

    — Could “your people” do their allegedly “self-sacrificing” things away from the peoples of Russia, Germany, France, the UK, and the US? You have your apartheid theocracy, the Jewish State, why don’t you move there en masse. Stop destroying the places of your residence only because you hate non-Jews.
    Your Ledeens, Epsteins, Wolfowitzes, Perles, Krystols, Alperovitches, Kagans, Pletkas, and similar filth do not belong to western civilization. They are subversives who do their “self-sacrificing” by sacrificing first the “other people” on which the” self-sacrificing” love to leach.
    And then this non-stop whining about “discrimination” and “antisemitism,” which goes along with the most vicious assault on the freedom of speech and the physical assaults on those daring to question the holobiz memes. Look at your thuggish ADL created to honor the “blessed memory” of the child-rapist and murderer Leo Frank. Look at the convergence of banderites and ziocons in Ukraine. So much self-sacrificing.

  299. @EliteCommInc.

    There are two polar approaches to personal safety:
    1. Rely on others entirely.
    2. Rely on oneself.

    Those who hew almost exclusively to #1 have no personal safety, only hope and luck.
    Given biological reality, #2 is mostly, albeit not exclusively, a man thing. Women and children who are devoid of any provision of physical safety from a man are most of the time entirely in Camp #1.

    Stated another way, kids and women don’t break others’ bones. I’m being figurative, of course.

  300. “Stated another way, kids and women don’t break others’ bones. I’m being figurative, of course.”

    Figuratively is correct, because kids, and women will not only break your bones but your heart as well.

    Just to be clear, I agreed with your perspective that breaking bones works — perhaps most of the time. Some people just get become worse as result. I just wanted to add the caveat that it is only justified as a means of defense.

    No issues.

    Though the more salacious the tales, the more prudent I become.

  301. I’d like to know about that Temple on Epstein’s Lolita Island:

    – What religion was practiced there?
    -Who were the members of the congregation?
    -Who was the high priest?
    -What kind of ceremonies/rituals were performed there?

    Surely the FBI investigated. Anyone have any ideas.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  302. @Commentator Mike

    vigilantcitizen.com : ” Jeffrey Epstein: The true ugly face of the Occult elite ” :

    “The fact that a temple was built on an island known for its extreme depravity is disturbing . However,
    when one fully understands the mindset of the occult elite it makes perfect sense . It is all about symbolism and ritual .
    For instance the ‘temple’ has a striking resemblance to Hammam Yalbugha – a Mamluk era public bath located in Syria … In Arabic , the word mamluk literally means property and is used to designate slaves …girls were groomed to become concubines of their masters …Considering that Epstein island was used to import child sex slaves for the elite, the symbolism is perfectly fitting .
    In order to give the temple an unmistakeable occult dimension , the building was adorned with golden statues representing gods (Neptune) and Owl -like birds .

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  303. (VIDEO) Madeleine McCann 🔴 Call To Scotland Yard 🔴 Ghislaine Maxwell Resemblance To Operation Grange E-Fit

    🔴 READ ARTICLE & WATCH VIDEO🔴 https://enchantedlifepath.com/2019/11/24/prince-andrew-ghislaine-maxwell-resembles-madeleine-mccann-suspect/

    #EnchantedLifePath #MadeleineMcCann #GhislaineMaxwell #PrinceAndrew #JeffreyEpstein

  304. @9/11 Inside job

    Thanks for the link. Still we’ll never know the full story. Probably worse than we can imagine, worse than anyone’s worst nightmare. They hide their worst crimes very well.

  305. Jo Blo says: • Website

    10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
    On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
    to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
    course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
    with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
    the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and
    B.

    11. Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, were
    she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump,
    Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. Exhs. A and B.

    23. Both Defendants let Plaintiff know that each was a very wealthy, powerful man
    and indicated that they had the power, ability and means to carry out their threats. Indeed,
    Defendant Trump stated that Plaintiff shouldn’t ever say anything if she didn’t want to disappear
    like Maria, a 12-year-old female that was forced to be involved in the third incident with
    Defendant Trump and that Plaintiff had not seen since that third incident, and that he was
    capable of having her whole family killed. Exhs. A and B.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  306. @Jo Blo

    A Billionaire who could afford to fly in his private jet anywhere in the world and pay for sex acts with anybody he chose would rape some Latin’s daughter at Epstein’s party where the press was sure to get wind and Trump would end up paying a huge settlement.

    Yeah, right.

    He barely skated past a scrape with some adult porn star who’d received 500 penises in her rectum on film in her lifetime.

  307. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    Hmmm…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Stryker

    some adult porn star who’d received 500 penises in her rectum on film in her lifetime

    Jealosy or projection?

    You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink…

    Nothing that can be said here can penetrate a closed mind once it has been made up…

    The truth is only for those who honestly seek it…

    I personally believe that you, dear poster, can move mountains out of your path…mountains of inconvenient truths and irrefutable evidence, court-filed or otherwise.

  308. Anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:

    Hmmm…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Stryker

    “some adult porn star who’d received 500 penises in her rectum on film in her lifetime”

    Jealosy or projection?

    You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink…

    Nothing that can be said here can penetrate a closed mind once it has been made up…

    The truth is only for those who honestly seek it…

    I personally believe that you, dear poster, can move mountains out of your path…mountains of inconvenient truths and irrefutable evidence, court-filed or otherwise.

  309. @Peter VE

    Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself either.

  310. Anatman says:
    @Sean

    They rubbed shoulders, as did Trump and others. He was not implicated in any of the involved wrongdoing. Stop fucking lying.

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