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Above, Piatak Family Christmases Past.

See earlier, by Peter Brimelow: The Singing Revolution vs. Open Borders Libertarianism

Like many Americans, one of my responses to the increasing rootlessness and anomie of modern life has been to take up genealogy as a hobby. Before the Ellis Island manifests were transcribed and made readily available to the general public, all I knew about the origins of my father’s family was that my Grandpa Piatak’s parents came from Slovakia and that my Grandma Piatak’s parents came from Poland. A discussion with my Grandpa Piatak shortly before he died left me with the vague sense that his parents had come from the area around Kosice. About my Polish side, I knew even less, only that they had come from the part of Poland under Russian domination before World War I, a domination that was remembered as brutal. (By contrast, thanks to my mom’s paternal grandfather, I knew that her direct male ancestor traveled on the Anne and arrived in Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1623 and another was the first white settler in Allegany County, New York following the American Revolution, in which he served on the American side). This may seem to be completely irrelevant to the War on Christmas, but what my family retained from Slovakia and Poland helped inspire and inform my own defense of Christmas and I believe some of what I have learned in my genealogical sleuthing could be helpful to all Americans wishing to preserve the public celebration of Christmas as part of America’s identity.

That was all the information that was passed down because that was all the information my paternal great-grandparents and grandparents’ thought was relevant. We were in America, had no plans to return to Europe, and did not want to live in America as though we had never left Europe. As my grandparents and great aunts and uncles used to say, “We are in America, so we speak American.” (Yes, “American” is what they called the language in which I am writing). My grandparents and their siblings knew from their parents how desperately poor the family had been in Europe, and they were all happy to live in America and proud to be Americans, born in Cleveland after their parents had arrived, not taken through Ellis Island as children. The only things my dad’s parents treasured and maintained from the patrimony they had received was their Roman Catholic faith and some distinctive customs surrounding Christmas.

The most solemn moment of our family Christmas celebration was always dinner on Christmas Eve. By tradition, it was meatless. For many years, the dinner was run by my Grandma Piatak (baptized Stefania Kowalczyk) and her older sister Mary (baptized Marianna Bronislawa Kowalczyk).

Dinner began when either my Grandpa Piatak or Uncle Walt broke off a piece of oplatki for himself and handed the remainder to the people sitting next to him, who continued the pattern until each of us had a piece. (Oplatki are rectangular pieces of unleavened bread with the texture and taste of old-style Communion wafers and feature pictures relating to the Nativity of Jesus Christ). The head of the household would then lead all of us in saying grace, after which we began eating fish, pierogi, the Polish-style sauerkraut we called “kapusta,” and peas. Dessert consisted of nut and poppyseed rolls, together with more conventional Christmas cookies for the kids. The menu, and the ritual, never varied, but the source of the fish did.

One particularly cold and snowy Christmas Eve stands out. That year, we got the fish for our dinner from Arthur Treacher’s, a then-popular fish and chips chain. It being Parma, Ohio, then Cleveland’s largest suburb, whose leading ethnic groups were reputed to be Polish-Americans, Slovak-Americans, Ukrainian-Americans, and Italian-Americans—the Italians liked the city’s name—my Uncle Denny and I were far from the only ones waiting in line to buy fried fish at a chain restaurant on Christmas Eve. Friendly conversation with the others waiting in line quickly confirmed what I had suspected: each of us was there because our families had bought Polish or Slovak Christmas customs with them to America.

When the dinner was at my Grandma Piatak’s house rather than my Aunt Mary’s, my Grandma would sometimes play her of record of Polish Christmas carols, or “koledy.” This record featured “Li’l Wally the Polka King” and the St. Stanislaus Choral Group of Michigan City IN.

As a child, my Grandma had sung Polish carols for her mother while standing under the bare kitchen light, which served as a substitute for the colorful “stars” carried door to door by carolers in villages in Poland. (Americans still enjoyed caroling when I was a kid–I’m 58—and I have distinct memories of carolers in our suburban neighborhood.) When my Grandma would start singing along, she often was joined by my mother, who has not a drop of Polish blood but who learned to sing, and love, Polish Christmas carols while attending St. Stanislaus Kostka grade school in Youngstown.

I quickly came to share the matriarchal love for the music, which often featured fast, lively tunes quite different from the Christmas carols I knew from church, music classes and choir in public school, the radio, my parents’ large collection of Christmas records, and the ubiquitous Christmas specials on TV that (in those days) featured one singer after another singing Christmas music each December.

None of this alienated me from the wider Christmas celebration that was going on all around me. Quite the contrary: the fact that my family cherished our distinctive Christmas customs enough to preserve them when they willingly jettisoned so many other customs left me with the firm conviction that Christmas was wonderful, special, and unique—in fact, as I put it in my first essay on the topic 21 years ago, “the principal holiday of the world’s most creative civilization for over a millennium.”

There were no demands that the Parma public schools replace their traditional Christmas activities with Polish ones. But there was plenty of time for other Christmas activities, and I will wager no one graduated from the Parma public schools in those days without knowing “Silent Night” and “Hark! The Herald Angels Sing,” the carol sung by the Peanuts, after a Nativity play in another public school, in what is perhaps Charles Schulz’ preeminent achievement, “A Charlie Brown Christmas.”

But I was not the only American with Polish ancestry willing to fire back in the War on Christmas. That first piece of mine on the War against Christmas, “Happy Holidays! Bah? Humbug?” was rerun by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in a slightly abbreviated form on the Sunday before Christmas 2001. The paper received published a handful of the letters to the editor it received on the topic, with my favorite coming from someone named Bernice Renkawek:

I read with much interest the essay by Tom Piatak. Thank you for publishing his thoughts.

I am ashamed to say that for the past few years, I have found myself becoming so entangled in Political Correctness that my own holiday has suffered as a result. I realized this year that it had gotten completely out of control when I didn’t wish my regular bus driver a “Merry Christmas” because I didn’t know how it would be taken.

I wish Mr. Piatak’s article had been printed sooner. I wish I had kept my Polish backbone and not given a hoot as to what people would think if I wished them a Merry Christmas. And above all, I wish I hadn’t pushed the celebration of the birth of Jesus into the back seat, under a blanket, where it couldn’t be seen and, therefore, wouldn’t offend anyone.

Mr. Piatak said it quite simply. The holiday is Christmas. Period. And such a beautiful and wonderful holiday it is. Thanks to him, from now on, I will do exactly what I feel in my heart.

Issue One letters: ‘Happy Holidays?’ Bah! Humbug!— Renewed Christmas vigor, December 30, 2001

I will wish people Merry Christmas, and if they look at me and say, “I don’t believe in Christmas. I don’t celebrate Christmas. I don’t believe in God”—my answer will be the same, “Well, I do, so Merry Christmas, again!”

Bernice Renkawek’s response was exactly the response I was hoping to elicit from ordinary Americans 21 years ago when I joined’s defense of Christmas. And for 21 years has continued to encourage the many other Americans like Bernice Renkawek to make the transition “from being so entangled in Political Correctness” that they would not wish others “a “Merry Christmas’ because [they] did not know how it would be taken” to wishing they had “kept [their] …backbones” and would stop pushing “the celebration of the birth of Jesus into the back seat, under a blanket, where it couldn’t be seen.”

I now know much more about my Slovak and Polish ancestry than I did when I signed up to follow an English immigrant in his sometimes lonely and always courageous defense of Christmas. As I considered what I would say about Christmas for this year, I thought about some lessons I had learned from my family history that might prove helpful as we Americans struggled to maintain our country and the civilization of which it has always been an integral part.

Shortly after the Ellis Island records became available, my Dad and I found the Ellis Island manifest for his grandfather, Joseph Piatak, who arrived at Ellis Island in August 1899 to join one of his brothers living at 17 Berg Street in Cleveland, Ohio. Luckily for us, the manifest clearly recorded the name of the village where Joseph was born: “Kolacsko,” which was the Hungarian name for Kolackov, a Slovak village roughly 15 miles west of the High Tatra Mountains and 12 miles south of the Polish border.

Ultimately, all six of the nine sons of John Piatak and Anna Tatarsky to survive childhood made their way to Cleveland and many of their descendants live here still, including me.

The discovery of where the family had come from was followed, not long after, by an unforgettable visit as part of a longer vacation in Central Europe, in May 2002. We found a small village in a beautiful natural setting, were welcomed with amazing hospitality by people who did not even know of our existence before we showed up, and established personal connections that endure to this day.

The center of the village remains the Catholic parish church of St. Michael, and the rest of the village contains numerous, well-maintained religious shrines, large and small, inside of the people’s homes and outside of them, including the Stations of the Cross erected by the villagers along a steep hillside path, at the end of which stands a hilltop chapel dedicated to the patroness of Slovakia, Mary, Mother of Sorrows. It was clear that, despite decades of Communism, Catholicism was as central to the lives of the people of Kolackov as it had been to my great-grandparents and their contemporaries.

The deeply -rooted Catholicism of Kolackov was a welcome confirmation of something I knew had once been true. But the next discovery came as a total surprise. The village dialect was not a standard Slovak dialect, but a Goral— “highlander” dialect, an amalgam of Slovak and Polish, closer in some ways to the latter. The people of Kolackov love music and support a number of musical groups, including several Goral folk bands. The best known of the Kolackov-based musical groups is “Kollarovci,” who specialize in jazz-inflected Goral folk music and who play to large crowds throughout Slovakia, the Czech Republic, and southern Poland. Their most popular YouTube video has over 23,000,000 hits.

And watching Kollarovci videos, many of which are filmed in Kolackov and the surrounding area, led me back to the War on Christmas.

As James Fulford has emphasized in his writings this year at, the War on Christmas has become a war on Normality. Although there is little sign of the War on Christmas in Slovakia, the country is part of the EU, which is waging war on the Normal in multiple arenas. And this war on Normality is a culture war, the type of war the Left denied even existed until it announced it had won.

I know nothing about the political opinions, if any, of the musicians in Kollarovci. But their videos show how conservatives should have been fighting the Culture War all along, and still can. In order to fight a Culture War, you need to produce good culture of your own. You need talented musicians who can make good music, talented directors and actors who can make good movies, talented writers who can write good books people want to read. Only then are you in a position to influence the broader culture.

And that, it seems to me, is what Kollarovci is quietly doing. Consider this video, celebrating normal family life. Or this one, showing a father teaching his beloved son about lifeOr this one, showing the Kollar brothers visiting Grandma in Kolackov. [In each of these videos, the camera highlights religious objects, shows people praying, or both. In none of these videos is there is even a hint of queer ideology, transgenderism, or the like.

There are numerous other Kollarovci videos like these. We need more, much more, like this, in America, and all over the West.

Lest there be any doubt about where the band stands on issues of ultimate importance, I think this deeply inspiring and thoroughly masculine performance of a Slovak Marian hymn, which is included on the Kollarovci Christmas CD released in December 2022, makes everything the band has been doing quite clear.

What happens, though, when government bureaucrats or advertisers or major corporations or the like insist that a celebration of the normal is no longer permissible? That leads to the lessons learned from studying the Polish side of my family tree.

I only recently determined that my Polish great-grandparents came to America from the villages of Lipniki and Brzozowa in the Roman Catholic parish of Lipniki. When my family came here, the parish was part of the Lomza Gubernia of the Russian Empire. Today, the villages are part of Ostroleka County, in a free and independent Poland.

It wasn’t supposed to end up that way. At the end of the Third Partition, Poland was supposed to be wiped off the map forever.

The same thing was supposed to be the result of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, the German and Russian invasions of Poland that followed in September 1939, and the genocidal Nazi occupation that intensified after the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941.

Poland was supposed to have no more than nominal independence once the Soviets replaced the Nazis as occupiers, an event that occurred in August 1944 after the Red Army paused its drive to Berlin to give the Nazis the chance to destroy the anti-Communist Polish Home Army and demolish Warsaw.

And one of the reasons it did not end up that way was, remarkably enough, the deep Polish love of Christmas. As explained in this fascinating article, “The Cornucopia of Hidden Meanings in Polish Christmas Carols,” [by Weronika Edmunds, December 7, 2022] there are approximately 600 extant Polish carols. All of them are about the Nativity of Jesus Christ, not snow, Santa, shopping, sleighrides, elves, or even festive greenery.

But they also helped Poles retain a sense of themselves as a separate people who deserved a nation of their own. Edmunds quotes perhaps Poland’s greatest writer, Adam Mickiewicz, describing Polish carols as “the ark of the covenant between our old, glorious past and today’s sad reality.” She notes that Chopin composed his Scherzo in B Minor, op. 20, which quotes the famous Polish carol “Lulajze Jezuniu,” right after the brutal Russian suppression of the November 1830 uprising. She notes that the large number of Polish carols ‘’were written to represent all native musical forms and thus preserve them.”

A bit earlier, the BBC put out its list of the seven of the best Polish carols[Polish Christmas carols: 7 of the best, by Hannah Nepilova, November 22, 2022]. The last carol on the BBC’s list, “W Dzien Bozego Narodzenia,” was rewritten to inspire the Polish legionaries who were fighting to regain Poland’s independence during World War I.

What lesson is there for Americans in Poland’s history? Simply this: never give up.

The War on Christmas, which a handful of people with backbones have at least stalemated, is part of a larger war on America, the West, and the Normal. The resistance in that wider war, led by far more respectable outlets than and far more respectable conservatives than Peter Brimelow, is not doing well, in large part because those claim to be resisting the Left are actually more interested in policing Thought Criminals on the Right.

In fact, leadership on the Right is so bad that many have concluded that all is lost. But, as this powerful scene shows below shows it isn’t.

It is Christmas Eve in 1939, and the officer commanding a group of Polish officers in Soviet captivity has asked one of his men to report upon seeing the first star in the night sky. If these men were with their families, the sighting of the star would mean the beginning of the Christmas Eve dinner. Here, after a brief speech by their commander, the men all sing one of the greatest of Polish Christmas carols, Bog sie rodzi (God is born).

It is Christmas Eve in 1939, and the officer commanding a group of Polish officers in Soviet captivity has asked one of his men to report upon seeing the first star in the night sky. If these men were with their families, the sighting of the star would mean the beginning of the Christmas Eve dinner. Here, after a brief speech by their commander, the men all sing one of the greatest of Polish Christmas carols, Bog sie rodzi (God is born).

By the summer of 1940, the Soviets had killed all these men. During the war, the Western Allies pressured the Polish government in exile to accept the official story that these men were all killed by the Nazis. The homeland these men were defending was freed from Nazi occupation only to be put under Soviet domination, and it was a crime in Communist Poland to tell the truth about Katyn. It appeared, for decades, that everything these men cherished was lost forever.

But it wasn’t.

A Scene To Ponder By Tom Piatak, American Remnant, January 8, 2021

If we keep singing our Christmas carols, and hold on to the rest of the West’s incomparable patrimony with equal tenacity, we will end up saving America, the West, and the Normal.

Thomas Piatak [Email him] is a contributing editor to Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture. He writes from Cleveland, Ohio.

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  1. I don’t understand the title. Some US Jews declared war on Christmas carols. They didn’t want people singing “O, Little Town of Bethlehem” and so on, and flooded the airwaves with “Jingle Bells”, “Rudolph”, and so on.

  2. Those Polish Catholic’s Christmas holiday celebrations vividly remind me of my own childhood in Trier and Luxembourg. Some differences there were of course (roast goose instead of fish), but the similarities were striking.

    I of course agree with “the principal holiday of the world’s most creative civilization for over a millennium”, but I would replace “most” by “only”. Why? because in each and every other civilization, the time that passed by brought on nothing but endless variations of the same (this doesn’t mean the said variations were denuded of interest, quite the contrary).

    • Replies: @Tom Piatak
  3. @René Fries

    Mr. Fries,

    There is much truth in your observation. Other civilizations, for example, have undoubtedly built great buildings. But no civilization can match the.West in the enormous casualties number of styles in which buildings have been built.

    • Replies: @René Fries
  4. folkvangr says:

    With your psychotic government, you are sure heading for the sixth and final partition lol.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  5. @Tom Piatak

    True. There is much more difference between the Chartres cathedral and Rome’s St Peter than between any Maya, Hindu or Chinese constructions one could name. Music is the other striking example – between the time of Perotinus and that of Hindemith, there was more variation in European music than in all others combined. Besides, I repeatedly have written about the different aspects of the “European” case, for instance under , and

  6. Wokechoke says:

    Right before after and in between Pulaski and Kosciuszko helped undermine the British in North America, Kosciuszcko returned to a wrecked Poland too, Poland was partitioned.

    While the behaviour of the Russian Empire and the Prussian Kingdom was cynically ruthless, the prominent role these two loose cannons played in buggering up the British Empire meant that no British stateman at the time had a word of sympathy for the Poles.

    The heavily indebted and exhausted French Bourbons (Spain too) were also glad to see the back of their (((Polish))) creditors. Nominal half hearted support from Napoleon created a rather embarrassing Duchy for them as a booby-prize which ensured they vanished as a state for 100 years…

    There’s something very odd and self destructive about Polish nationalism.

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    , @folkvangr
  7. Dutch Boy says:

    Poland is a member of the EU, which is Anti-Christ. Christmas in Europe will never be safe as long as the EU exists.

  8. @Wokechoke

    But something resilient and enduring as well.

    And Tadeusz Kosciuszko was, quite simply, agreat man by any definition. He helped break down the enormous barriers that had existed between the nobility and the peasants, with the end result being that the peasants ended up being as ardent in their Polish patriotism as the nobility.

    And that was a lasting change. The funeral home my family traditionally used in Cleveland featured, in one of the parlors, a painting of Polish peasants armed with scythes following Kosciuszko to fight the Russians. They’re were no landed nobles using that funeral home, but the descendants of those wielding the scythes remembered that history with pride.

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  9. @Tom Piatak

    Excuse the numerous typos above.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  10. folkvangr says:

    While the behaviour of the Russian Empire and the Prussian Kingdom was cynically ruthless

    In Tsarist Russia, Poles had their own autonomy – the Kingdom of Poland with a Sejm and separate laws, while in Germany and Austria-Hungary, Slavs were not entitled to any autonomy. Poles cannot forgive the Russians for their humane attitude. lol
    The “odd and self destructive Polish nationalism” has another name: arrogance + 48 other synonyms lol

    • Replies: @Tom Piatak
    , @Wokechoke
  11. HdC says:

    “Polish Atrocities Against the German Minority in Poland”

    Perhaps Mr Piatek should read the above titled book, before he feeds us the tripe of ‘poor innocent Poland’, which the Germans invaded for no reason whatsoever.

    Perusal of Polish newspaper headlines of those times would disclose the chauvenist belief of their government.

    • Replies: @Tom Piatak
  12. @HdC

    I wrote about Christmas, not World War II.

    If you have something to say about Christmas, please say it.

    • Replies: @HdC
  13. @folkvangr

    I am writing about Christmas. If you have something to say about Christmas, by all means do so

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  14. Wokechoke says:
    @Tom Piatak

    Wish he’d just stayed in Poland tbh.

    • Replies: @Tom Piatak
  15. Wokechoke says:

    Paul I offered the guy a vassal kingdom.

    I guess vanishing was preferable, just in time to be the
    Tripwire for ww2.

  16. HdC says:
    @Tom Piatak

    Thank you for your civil reply.

    However, the following is a direct quote from your essay above; I was merely commenting on the fact that Poles were not choir boys before, during, or after, the wars. They are also receivers of stolen goods from both WW.

    “…the German and Russian invasions of Poland that followed in September 1939, and the genocidal Nazi occupation that intensified after the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941…”

    English being my second language I may have missed the Christmassy part in the above quote.

    Look, it is good to read how strongly you feel about Christmas, and wishing everyone Merry Christmas, as I do the same.

    To hell with political correctness.

  17. @Wokechoke

    Who just stayed in Poland?

    I was born here, aa was my father, as were both his parents. My mother

    • Replies: @René Fries
  18. Please delete all my comments above except the two responding to Rene Fries. Thank you.

  19. @Tom Piatak

    Thank you for this lovely piece about your traditional Christmases – it must be great to visit “the old place” and find a welcome there.

    But if Poles want to preserve Catholic Poland, it is important to “chill with the Russophobia”, or the fate of formerly Catholic Ireland, by far the most Catholic nation in Western Europe, awaits the Poles.

    I completely understand Poland being leery of Russia. I have a Victorian novel on my bookshelf is which the hero, Ladislas Pulaski, exiled in England, longs for Poland’s freedom. In the 1931 serio-comic novel “England Their England” this scene is set at an upper-class dinner-party.

    “Beyond her was a very handsome Polish count who did not speak English, and he had been placed beside a beautiful Russian princess who also did not speak English (greatly to Esmeralda’s relief, for the Russian really was lovely) so that they could talk to each other. Unfortunately, the Russian lady’s grandfather had, shortly after the regrettable incidents of 1863, caused the Polish count’s grandfather to walk all the way to Siberia, an exercise in pedestrianism which the latter had bitterly resented; and furthermore, the Polish count knew, and the Russian princess knew that he knew, that she was not a princess at all but only a baroness, and had attained the higher rank by the quaint old custom of self-promotion that has always been common among aristocrats in exile. The result was that, although they could have conversed with equal fluency in Polish, Russian, German, or French, they preferred not to recognize each other’s existence, and the Major-General told Bob Bloomer that Slavs were always very reserved people.”

    With all the shuffling of borders east and west, all the deportations, all the Soviet-era massacres, after a couple of hundred years of Russia kicking the Poles, Poland is still a recognisable historical entity, there’s still a Polish people and a Polish language. Warsaw is still a Polish city – indeed, as I understand it from my skim-reading, after the unfortunate events of WW2 a lot of Polish cities are more Polish than they were pre-WW2.

    But in England, so called “winners” of WW2, the English are a minority in their two largest cities, London and Birmingham. Their history (except WW2) is defamed, traduced or mocked, their soccer team no longer features many English, their schools and universities teach English kids to be ashamed of their forebears.

    That fate awaits Poland if they continue to focus on the past rather than the rapidly-encroaching future. When you think that (formerly) mighty Britain is pretty much defeated on all fronts, which is why a million immigrant visas were issued by Boris last year, what chance does Poland stand long term? Ireland, famously feisty and famously Catholic, collapsed in no time at all.

    It’s a difficult pill to swallow that the Warsaw Pact and Soviet domination may actually have preserved Poland from 1945-1990. Certainly Poland in 1990 was still full of Poles, England not so full of English.

    If Poland, as seems to be the case from where I’m sitting, throws itself headlong into America’s campaign against Russia*, don’t imagine that there’ll be some kind of reward. No good deed goes unpunished. Should the US win, God forbid, then Poland can expect mass third world immigration, the removal of Christianity from the public sphere, and all the other blessings of liberal multiculturalism. Indeed the only chance in my opinion of Poland remaining Polish is that Zelensky’s Ukraine is defeated and the US/EU need Poland as a bulwark against Russia.

    I am sorry to veer so far off topic, but I feel it’s important if you don’t want Warsaw in 30 years to look like London or Paris. And a Happy New Year to you all!

    A total of 874 cars have been set alight during New Year’s Eve celebrations in France, police say.

    However, the interior ministry said the number was much lower than in 2019. Authorities also reported a rise in the number of people stopped and detained.

    A curfew to tackle Covid-19 meant no significant disruption took place this time last year.

    Car burning has effectively become an annual event in French suburbs since riots in 2005 in several cities.

    Some 95,000 police and gendarmes were mobilised during recent New Year’s celebrations, French media report – including 32,000 firefighters and security personnel.

    * I see reports of many Polish mercenary deaths, mostly of very recent Polish army personnel.

    • Agree: Dnought
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  20. folkvangr says:

    I am writing about Christmas. If you have something to say about Christmas, by all means do so

    At the end of the Third Partition, Poland was supposed to be wiped off the map forever.

    Nazi occupation only to be put under Soviet domination, and it was a crime in Communist Poland to tell the truth about Katyn.

    the German and Russian invasions of Poland that followed in September 1939, and the genocidal Nazi occupation that intensified after the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941.

    Nice Christmas carol you have here, pal, and BTW, isn’t the war on Christmas the only war Poland won since 1612? lol

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    , @Tom Piatak
  21. @folkvangr

    One of the points of the piece was to provide a lesson for Americans as to how we can preserve our own nation.

    Poland provides an apt example of doing justtha

  22. One of the points of the piece is to enhance the prospects for survival for the American nation by providing an example of another Western nation that has survived, despite overwhelming odds. Poland is a very powerful example of that.

  23. @folkvangr

    I seen to recall something about Sobieski riding to Vienna to save the West from the Turk in 1689. And of the Poles saving the West from Soviet inasion in 1920. So, no. not all Polish wars have ended in defeat since 1612.

    • Agree: Dnought, René Fries
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  24. folkvangr says:

    Mr. Piatak, with all due respect, I hope what you really had in mind was “sharing your experience” and not “providing a lesson.” This is a classic situation of a good intention being “lost in translation”!

    • Agree: Tom Piatak
  25. Here is a wonderful concert of Polish Christmas carols, by the folk group Mazowsze, shared with me by someone who wrote concerning this piece. Enjoy!

  26. ·
    A wonderful concert of Polish Christmas carols, sent to me by a reader of my 21st consecutive piece on the War on Christmas at Enjoy!

  27. 26 comments at the moment, 12 of them by the author of the article itself. Has there ever been an article where almost half of the comments came from the writer? Asking for a friend.

    • Replies: @HdC
    , @Navajoflyer
  28. HdC says:

    Well, at least Mr Piatak has the courtesy and courage to reply to those that question his missive.

    Personally I am delighted that one Christian speaks out on behalf of Christianity, and how it is celebrated in his native country.

    Where Mr Piatak is on very thin ice is when he talks of Poland being an example to other people or countries. If Mr Piatak wishes to debate this, he can do so in this forum.

    Mr Piatak is at home in Chronicles, a Magazine of American Culture. The commentary therein is now very restricted and has become nothing but a mutual admiration society. I know this, because I was banned from that magazine 15 or so years ago.

    If Mr Piatak is new to this forum I caution him that this forum is the place where sacred cows are slaughtered and barbecued.

    • Replies: @Tom Piatak
  29. @Catdompanj

    12 comments by the author, I believe this is an example of civil discourse something we could definitely use more of in this day and age. He should be applauded for his attempt to clarify his position and engage in constructive discussion.

    • Agree: Dnought
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  30. @HdC

    Thank you for your kind words.

    Whatever may be said about the events leading up to the Partitions and the Nazi and Soviet occupations, the message I was hoping to impart to my countrymen was that we need to maintain our own identity–of which the public celebration of Christmas is a part–with the same tenacity with which the Poles have maintained theirs.

    • Replies: @HdC
  31. @Navajoflyer

    Here is a concert of Polish Christmas carols you might enjoy:

  32. HdC says:
    @Tom Piatak

    Mr Piatak, you do raise an interesting point; unfortunately I can only judge the situation I am about to expound from what I have read.

    There is thought that the eastern countries that were liberated from communist domination, have a population that seems much more nationalistic and protective of their culture and values.

    As opposed to western countries where “anything goes” and Christianity be damned. Even today as we see our countries become more and more dysfunctional, there appears to be no public outcry denouncing this deterioration.

    If you could point me to a tome or other scholarly work discussing this, I’d be grateful. Thank you.

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  33. @Tom Piatak

    My mother

    …yes, the Polish women! “Und eben deshalb wird die Polin / von keinem andern Weib erreicht // And for this very reason the Pole is not reached by any other woman”, that’s from a J. Strauss operette and pertains to beauty. But I also remember one of the Polish 19th century revolutions being called “révolution des femmes” but I do not remember and cannot make out whether it was that of 1830, that of 1848 or that of 1863. Anyhow, if I remember correctly, only he Spanish women (see Goya’s “Los Desastres de la Guerra”) were such fighting devils as the Polish ones seem to have been.

  34. @HdC

    As opposed to western countries where “anything goes” and Christianity be damned. Even today as we see our countries become more and more dysfunctional, there appears to be no public outcry denouncing this deterioration.

    If you could point me to a tome or other scholarly work discussing this, I’d be grateful.

    In two (as far as I remember) of the 10 books of the “Inârah” series ( ) in my possession, there are contributions that specifically address this problem. But it’s all in German.

    • Thanks: HdC
  35. Wokechoke says:
    @Tom Piatak

    What about siding with the invading Mongols? Or indeed siding with the slave trading Crimean Tartars? Poles did that too. along with contracting Jews to do the bank lending, taverns and tax collecting in what became the Pale?

  36. Wokechoke says:

    The USSR did them no harm in certain demographic ways.

    The Polish population increased a great deal during the era from 1950-90 and since independence Poland has had trouble keeping the Poles interested in living in Poland. The population has plateaued and only the influx of fleeing Ukies replenished them.

    eventually the Poles too, will have to pay the cost of westernization and accept brown and black migrants who will shit all over Christmas.

  37. @Tom Piatak

    There’s interesting Brit history there – one Samuel Miliband, born in Poland, sided with the Red Army in the Battle of Warsaw. Not surprisingly he left Poland and ended up in Belgium IIRC, where (he was Jewish) he managed in the late 30s to get on a boat to England with his son Ralph, who ended up a Professor of Politics. Ralph had sons David and Ed, who competed for the UK Labour Party leadership, Ed won and David headed for the US, where he runs some kind of opaquely but lucratively funded refugee agency with a name from a TV cartoon.

    Poland – Belgium – UK – US in only three generations!

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