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A warrior’s soul sleeps in his fist. Wakes in his fist. Till his dying breath, will exist in his fist.

No gun and no mortal danger can unfold this fist. A warrior will live and die with his fist clenched.

This is not for love of violence nor for the thrills of war. Not because of a demented passion for death either. This is because a warrior knows that even in times of peace, evil and evil-doers lurk in the shadow of peace.

Warriorship is vocational. It is non-mercenary. Non-materialistic. Non-negotiable. True warriorhood is purely defensive. It is fixated solely on the protection of a higher justice and defense of self and the meek. It is never predatory. A warrior is steeped in a culture of righteous dignity and martyrdom. Humble dignity. And a sacred martyrdom. A true warrior is not an ordinary soldier, nor a celebrated figure from either media or mythology. A true warrior is real. And rare. A true warrior is the only class of human capable of kissing death right in the eyeball. There is no fear of the infinite black void in the heart of a true warrior.

Throughout history, cultures under duress and attack by covetous enemies have produced their own brand of warrior. Native American Indians gave us the ‘Braves’. Japan gave us the ‘Samurai’. France gave us Joan of Arc. Africa gave us ‘Warrior Queen Amina’. And modern Lebanon has given us, Hezbollah.

Hezbollah: currently the world’s most successful warrior-resistor group fighting against the most malevolent of all modern abominations, otherwise known as the Axis of Evil (US, Israel, and their Western and Arab-Wahabi allies). Hezbollah is also currently the most reviled of all warriors. This is because unable to defeat Hezbollah on the battlefield, and after already spending some $11 billion on many failed coups and smear campaigns this past decade, the Axis of Evil is now reduced to merely attacking Hezbollah with malicious lies and false accusations. To demonize Hezbollah, to sully their immaculate reputation in a vast and global media campaign is about the only weapon left in the hands of the Axis of Evil. This defamation offensive may work on some uninformed people, but indeed it will not weaken Hezbollah’s phenomenal abilities on the battlefield. This agitating agitprop will not change any facts on the ground. It will be but more of your tax dollars wasted on a chimera.

Hezbollah is noble, yet not royal. Its warriors and leaders are essentially from working-class, farming communities who grouped themselves to repel a vicious, colonial and genocidal invader, otherwise known as Israel. Some thirty years after the birth of their resistance group, Hezbollah remain exceptionally humble and profoundly rooted in their modest beginnings. Even though Hezbollah has lost warriors in combat, the number of its martyrs has been relatively low, and it has yet to lose a single battle or war in its 30+ years of existence. And despite its stellar successes on the battlefield, Hezbollah remains unostentatious and merciful in victory. Most notable and impressive of all, Hezbollah’s leadership does not practice chicanery, skullduggery or monkeyshines. They simply do not lie. Not once has its leadership deceived or duped its fighters, its allies or supporters. Consistently true to their word, even Israeli Jewish citizens, according to Israeli polls, believe what Hezbollah’s leadership says above their own leaders in Tel Aviv. This is because time and time again, what Hezbollah says simply and truly ‘is’, and what it promises, it always delivers. And, indeed, it has outsmarted its bulkier enemy at every turn of the road and delivered.

All their battles have been for defensive reasons. ALL of them. They are exceptionally well-disciplined and focused on the task of righteous liberation from cruel and oppressive forces. Their training system produces no traitors and no Mammonites easily seduced by the lure of wealth, physical pleasures, or political status. They are therefore beyond blackmail. Beyond distraction from their cause. Steeped in a culture of martyrdom that’s inspired by the prophet Mohammad’s grandson Hussein and his agonizing martyrdom, a passion-cause and agony that’s parallel to the martyrdom culture of the Christian prophet Jesus, Hezbollah’s warriors are beyond the corruption of soul.

Their training is two-pronged. They are trained in agile guerilla combat, while simultaneously taught a righteous philosophy that in essence is religio-spiritual. A philosophy inspired by their fundamental belief in a just and compassionate god, a god who rewards the faithful and true. This is precisely what distinguishes them from other armies: their absolute philosophical and physical commitment to a righteous god. Although deeply religious and strictly committed to Islam, they are remarkably tolerant of other sects, other faiths and cultures, as exampled by their recent willing martyrdom in defense of Syrian Sunnis, Druze and Alawites, as well as their heroic defense of Christian villages and their ancient Churches in the Levant. Hezbollah warriors have sacrificed their own lives to liberate the very progeny of the original Christians of the world who still reside in the Levant; liberate them from Western and Israeli-backed ISISian terrorists and invaders. Worth mentioning here too, according to a Lebanese General I spoke to, is that Hezbollah are also the protectors of the last remaining Jewish synagogue and its community in Lebanon, numbered at approximately 400 Lebanese adherents. Perhaps here it’s also germane to add that during their wars against Israel, Hezbollah’s leadership have even earnestly embraced and supported the resistance efforts of godless Lebanese communist groups fighting against the invading Jewish army. They have broken bread with and befriended the godless and the godfull alike in the name of fighting and deterring a genocidal and kleptomaniac enemy. Hezbollah remains bonded and intimately close to other Lebanese resistance groups, even in times of peace. Their friendships are always genuine, devoid of exploitative and fickle realpolitik. They are interested and concerned with uniting their countryfolk, not dividing or dominating them. They support a peaceful and equitable co-existence between the 18 legally recognized religions and sects of the Lebanon, whose population count is currently at 6.825 million. It is of historic record that they have even given immunity to Lebanese traitors who colluded with Israel during its 18 year occupation of Lebanon.

Hezbollah follows strict moral rules of war that do not allow for the wanton killing of the enemy: repulsion of enemy and not massacre of enemy is their first and foremost tactic – and if this proves insufficient, then annihilating their enemy becomes a permissible and sanctified necessity. Their Islamic rules of war insist on the humanitarian treatment of POW’s and Hezbollah always obliges. They are trained to be impeccably well-mannered towards their captives: trained not just in strategic guerilla warfare, but also educated in the lofty principles of charity and mercy toward the captured and repentant. They do not abuse victory by claiming sole power: they believe in power-sharing with their compatriots, even with those who never stepped foot on the battlefield.

Hezbollah is supreme, yet evidently not supremacist.

They never break their laws of war for fear of their god. They would rather literally die than break these laws that displease their god. They follow their religio-philosophical and military protocol with absolute precision; and they practice devoted respect and trust in the righteousness of their commanders and cause. Extrajudicial executions are forbidden, and so is the unjustified assault on their enemy. They do not shoot at unarmed women, children or men either. They do not target the handicapped sitting in their wheelchairs like the Israeli army and other Jewish security apparatuses regularly do. They do not invade, they liberate. Hezbollah is a reactive and defensive resistor and not an army of usurpers and psychopaths hellbent on mass murder and the looting of what is not rightfully theirs.

Their resistance culture is humanist. Through and through.

They strive for a just and peaceful world, no matter the cost to their own lives. Indeed, they live for martyrdom; they yearn for martyrdom in the cause of a just and peaceful world. They rank martyrdom as the absolute highest achievement in life.

“We don’t fear death as our death is martyrdom. Martyrdom means eternally living close to our god. Living close to god is the ultimate point in the ascension of mankind: cannot be achieved except through martyrdom” – a Hezbollah warrior.

There is a trinity of principles contained in Hezbollah’s martyrdom philosophy. They are willing to die for three principled notions: for god, for family, and for nation. They live and die for nothing else but for god, family and nation. I can’t stress enough how important their triadic life-philosophy is for them. As faith-filled warriors, they do not ever separate from this soulful philosophy, or ever discard it while at war or even during peace time – not even momentarily, not even for a nano second. Their martyrdom philosophy is their very oxygen. Their very spine. They are consistent in their profound commitment to their divine, triangular philosophy. This is the mother of absolutes for them. This supplies them with infinite, fearless courage. This inspires their attachment and love of righteous, disciplined behavior and focused intent. This provides them with infinite determination; with boundless physical and mental legerity. During warfare training, and on the battlefield and off, they remain intimately connected to this inspirational triangle of motives. In their universe, the muscle, the moral and the divine are eternally wedded. This is the very reason behind their unbroken record of victories and their continuing and increased strength and popularity across the world.

Hezbollah reveres their god above all else – their supernal god sits atop their spiritual pyramid, directly linked below to the two sacred earthly duties of protecting family and nation. Hezbollah warriors value this triadic configuration above even their own lives. They connect their earthly duties towards family and nation directly to the service of their celestial god. Their god requires their unflinching faith and their protection of ‘tribe and land’, and Hezbollah warriors, they are willingly servants who selflessly submit to the absolute reverence of god and protection of family and nation. This noble aegis pleases their god: Hezbollah warriors live for nothing but to please their god, therefore they will never break or dissolve the divine contract they’ve undertaken with their god. Their enemy should be aware and beware: they will actively neutralize any and all threats to this divine equation – even at the cost of their own lives. This is their only mission on earth: reverence of god, defense and protection of family and land. This is Hezbollah’s manifesto in a nutshell. Nothing less than that. Nothing beyond that.

Their resistance model and system has gained much traction and spread outside of their Levantean locale: from the punishing dunes of Yemen and all the way to South America, from the Fertile Crescent and right across the continent of Asia, Hezbollah’s resistance model has spread and continues to be received with open arms, much to the chagrin of their pernicious, defeated enemies.

Hezbollah’s other unique quality is that of sober patience. They are exceptionally adept at the art of patience: their carpet-weaving Iranian friends have taught them this necessary life-skill and they’ve artfully applied this mental discipline to all their war and battle strategies. Believing their faith in their god is permanent and unbreakable, yet everything worldly is changeable, they therefore patiently play the long game against their enemy with utter confidence and evident success.

Yet, despite all the above factual and admirable qualities, their enemies and their enemies’ global media megaphones label Hezbollah as ‘narco-terrorist’ and ‘Islamic terrorist’. Accusing the Hezbollah of trafficking drugs is no different in absurdity than accusing Mother Teresa of global heroin-trading. Everyone who knows Hezbollah’s MO knows that their warriors and their leadership live a clean and sober life. They do not even drop f-bombs or cuss dirty words at their enemy. They are as clean-tongued and clean-living, as humble and ‘gracious as the morn’. Knowing the lifestyle and philosophy that Hezbollah strictly adheres to on the battlefield and off, it is simply inconceivable that Hezbollah would displease their god by running local and international drug rings that ruin people’s lives, break up families and weaken nations. This preposterous accusation belongs to the long list of perfidious lies manufactured by their enemies, who themselves, in fact, participate in international drug trading and trafficking, with the CIA running the lucrative global opium trade of Afghanistan, and the Mossad running the global Ecstasy drug trade in Europe and America.

Unable thus to find a military Achilles’s heel and character fault in their MO, Hezbollah’s enemies have produced a long litany of alleged crimes without ever providing even a single shred of evidence of wrongdoing. Hezbollah’s enemies have added Hezbollah’s good name to their infamously politicized ‘terrorist list’ without even once providing proof and irrefutable substantiation of terrorist activity. Let us here together therefore look at this list of accusations below – and please you will be mindful that if Hezbollah terrorism against the US were in fact true, that there exists actual evidence of Hezbollah terrorism against the United States, Lebanon, especially the south of Lebanon where Hezbollah is based, would have already received a decisive and fatal American ‘Shock and Awe’ treatment.

There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that Hezbollah’s leadership has ever ordered or committed the following: the 1983 truck bombing on the US embassy in Beirut; as well as the bombing of US and French barracks in the same year. The bombing of a restaurant near the US Air force base in Torrejon, Spain; the car bombing of the US embassy annex in Beirut; and the hijacking of a Kuwait Airlines plane – all in the year 1984. The hijacking of TWA flight #847 in 1985. The abduction and execution of three Lebanese Jews in 1986, under the pseudonym of the ‘Organization of the Oppressed on Earth’. The murder of three Saudi diplomats in 1988. The assassination of a Saudi secretary in Bangkok in 1989. The assassination of two more Saudi diplomats and a telex operator at the Saudi embassy in Bangkok in 1990; as well as the kidnapping and murder of a Saudi businessman in Bangkok in the same year. The murder of Ehud Sadan, a security chief at the Israeli embassy in Ankara; as well as the bombing of the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires back in 1992. The failed attempted murder of a Turkish-Jewish community leader in Istanbul in 1993. The failed attempt at car-bombing the Israeli embassy in Thailand; and the suicide bombing of the Argentine Jewish Mutual Association building in Buenos Aires – all in year 1984. The truck bombing at the US portion of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996. The assassination of former Lebanese PM, Rafic Hariri, in 2005. The attack on a bus in Bulgaria that was full of Israeli vacationers back in 2012. And many, many more ‘failed this and attempted that’ terrorism activities falsely pinned on Hezbollah by no less than its enemy Israel and its agents in the US and Europe, and by its gruesome Wahabi-Arabian foes.

A handful of the above false and politicized accusations are on a continuous rotation in the Jewish and Western media, yet not even a semblance of proof is ever provided to the reading public. Relying on Islamophobic media trends, these accusations of terrorism are published and republished over and over again, in the hope that hearsay will eventually prevail as fact in the minds of reasonable people. In other words, the above allegations are nothing but propagandistic slings and arrows aimed at demonizing an undefeated and righteous resistance group. Interestingly, despite these aggressive propaganda operations against the Hezbollah, neither its fighting skills or vigor have been damped, nor have these misinformation assaults halted the spread of its popularity around the the world. Even the military academies of its enemies, in silent admiration now include the study of Hezbollah’s supreme tactics and warfare strategies in their curriculum, thus confirming the high caliber of their fighting skills and war philosophy. One cannot separate Hezbollah’s war strategies from the foundation of their humanist philosophy. Both are always employed in tandem. Hezbollah always leave an exit passage for their enemy to retreat through during an ambush.

Hezbollah receives enthusiastic moral support from Muslim as well as non-Muslim nations. From Eastern and from some Western nations. Hezbollah is respected, loved and revered in the four corners of the world – including appreciation by some citizens in enemy nations who are mentally unmolested by their State propaganda. This is not just because humans by nature love an undefeated war hero. This is because the humble Hezbollah has successfully established itself as an army of the people, by the people, for the people. And here lies the essence of its true popularity. A Lebanese force of good that’s comprised ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’ is no different than the beloved American constitutional motto of a government ‘of the people, by the people, for the people’. What Hezbollah has achieved for its nation and for its compatriots as a resistance group, American politicians are yet to actually demonstrate and realize for the benefit of the American people.

Why is that?

This is because the Lebanese have clearly defined their enemy as Israel, whereas the American collective has yet to identify its insidious internal enemy as ‘Jewish power’. Jewish power that has risen through unsavory and un-American tribal cronyism, nepotism, blackmail and coercion. Jewish supremacy that has been blatantly dominant of American life internally and American foreign policy internationally for the past 60+ years (since the Kennedy assassination, in fact). Jewish power that has essentially been corrosive and disfiguring of American traditional life domestically, and ruinous upon its purse and reputation internationally. But, if the Lebanese can so successfully circumvent and repeatedly defeat abusive Jewish power, then so can Americans who live under the boot of an overtly anti-democratic Jewish occupation. The recent shredding of our beloved First Amendment is but the latest victim of Jewish tyranny, and an undeniable expression of their hate of our democracy.

But, for Americans to liberate themselves, they first need to overcome all the gauntlets and weapons of mass distraction, all the social-engineering and numerous other dumbing-down projects that American elite Jews and their lobby have insidiously imposed on American citizen and politician alike. For Americans to be truly free and independent, and they are a captive people at present, they need to first bypass all the Jewish-engineered and sponsored divisions inside of America. Divisions like Identitarian politics, race-baiting and race disharmony, Jewish-owned Hollywood’s demonization of traditional American values, Neoliberalism, globalism, the Federal Reserve, Wall Street, Mainstream media, most of Altmedia – and the long list goes on. They also need to discard and rebel against imposed mental pollutants like the mandatory teaching of the fake Anne Frank book in their schools; and most certainly, they also need to reject the funding of all those hideous Holocaust museums that operate to enable ongoing Jewish crimes against Americans by portraying the Jews as the ‘eternal victims with special needs’. All these holocaust museums are no more than propaganda factories paid for by your own tax dollars, not by Israeli Shekels or by private Jewish donations. It is the height of absurdity that Americans should be paying for their own brainwash and mental enslavement. Americans need to, ABOVE ALL, reclaim their First Amendment right that’s been hijacked and recently ripped to shreds by Jewish power. Americans need to regain their freedom of speech and be able to call a spade, a spade, and a Jew, a Jew.

There is no understating how many Jewish chains are already wrapped around the American mind and body. That’s your individual mind and body I speak of.

Begs the question here: where is your dignity and self-respect, dear American? Where is your honor and warriorhood? Where are the fruits of your labor that you’ve invested in your family and country year after year? It is not in your own hands, and it is not being spent on your community either. The Jewish lobby has made sure that your freedom and your tax dollars go first and foremost and directly towards serving the state of Israel. The Jewish lobby has killed your democracy, created social devastation right across the nation and fleeced your hard-earned tax dollars to benefit the klepto and oppressive state of Israel. The Jewish lobby has been treating you no different than a nation of slaves it socially engineers and owns. Presently, America is not in a state of justice and grace. Americans of all colors and stripes are not a free people. America is no longer ‘the beautiful’. America is under occupation by tribal Jewish power. And the Lebanese? The Lebanese, despite their mountain of current internal crisis, are in fact living a well-earned liberated life. The bruised Lebanese are in fact a freer people than the Americans are. A life of freedom from occupation gifted to them by the consistently vigilant and sacrificial Hezbollah. Hezbollah the patriot. Hezbollah, the beautiful.

When will citizens of the West and of America realize that Hezbollah is by far more on their side than the tax-fleecing, warmongering Zion? After all, Hezbollah exists to liberate, not to rob the Mints of Europe and America, not to warmonger for wars of choice that cost mega dollars and Euros and rivers of blood. And most certainly, Hezbollah does not in any measure oppress the Western people’s rights to freedom of speech – a right that the Israel lobbies of Europe and America are fixated on denying the people.

Where is your own Hezbollah, dear American? Where is your resistance to your occupier? Where is your resisting mind? Your resisting vote? Your resisting words? Your resisting art? Your resisting gun?

As an American expat witnessing the damage and dire divisions inflicted on our society by Jewish elites, I advise you not turn your guns against one another. This is absolutely a ruinous folly. This is what your insidious occupier is betting on. Your division emboldens and empowers them. To fleece more out of you for the sake of Israel, the enemy in your midst needs you further divided and weaker. Do not submit, but do circumvent. Circumvention through unity. You do not have to love one another to death, but you do have to unite and resist against your enemy within if a life of freedom, peace and prosperity is what you think you deserve. Unite despite your differences. Unite despite your rage. This is your key to liberation.

‘By deception thou shalt do war’. This is the Israeli motto.

‘Live free or die’. This is an American motto. It is also a Hezbollah motto.

(Republished from Plato's Guns by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. GeeBee says:

    Throughout history, cultures under duress and attack by covetous enemies have produced their own brand of warrior. Native American Indians gave us the ‘Braves’. Japan gave us the ‘Samurai’. France gave us Joan of Arc. Africa gave us ‘Warrior Queen Amina’. And modern Lebanon has given us, Hezbollah.

    I enjoyed your article, but on reading the above I couldn’t help noticing that you had omitted mentioning that ‘Germany gave us The Schutzstaffel’…

  2. @GeeBee

    A closer equivalent would be the Freikorps, but it would take too long
    to delve into the finesses 😀

    – Not since the days of Bronze Age Pervert have we seen anyone get the gays like that,
    but of course xe has a point: The Party of God is what the Panthers aspired to be –
    a lifetime ago …
    and no Aryan resistance on the horizon 🙁
    Look at what became of the Panthers – the same forces arrayed against them;
    Thebes at long last beat Sparta by going homo (and ran into problems when the Spartan women demanded their Right to be inseminated by the victors) only to get reamed by the Macedonians a generation later, so this probably ain´t the Way either.

    – One point where methinks Hizbollah has it easier than the miserables:
    I doubt their wimmin call them patriarchal 😛

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  3. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Although deeply religious and strictly committed to Islam, they are remarkably tolerant of other sects, other faiths and cultures, as exampled by their recent willing martyrdom in defense of Syrian Sunnis, Druze and Alawites, as well as their heroic defense of Christian villages and their ancient Churches in the Levant. Hezbollah warriors have sacrificed their own lives to liberate the very progeny of the original Christians of the world who still reside in the Levant; liberate them from Western and Israeli-backed ISISian terrorists and invaders.

    Hezbollah in Lebanon has a multi-confessional branch as well.

    https://www.ibtimes.com/christian-sunni-shia-meet-hezbollahs-non-denominational-military-branch-defending-2169257

    Christian, Sunni And Shia: Meet Hezbollah’s Non-Denominational Military Branch Defending Lebanon, Fighting In Syria

    BEKAA VALLEY, Lebanon — Usman is a Sunni Muslim. He also fights alongside Shiite militant group Hezbollah. For Usman it’s not a contradiction. The sectarian rivalries that are tearing up the rest of the region — in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Libya — are secondary to the Lebanese nationalism that dominates this Sunni-dominant, mountainous region on the Lebanese-Syrian border.

    “Lebanon is my country … I am patriotic. I wanted to join the resistance and Hezbollah came by and they offered the ideology of resistance,” Usman, whose whole family is Sunni and supports Hezbollah, told International Business Times. “We don’t talk about sectarian issues.”

    A plumber by day, Usman moonlights as a foot soldier with Saraya al-Muqawama (Resistance Brigades), a nondenominational military wing of Hezbollah made for Lebanese fighters whose religion — or lack thereof — makes it impossible for them to join the so-called Party of God, funded by Shiite powerhouse Iran. Hezbollah’s way around this is the creation of Saraya, where Lebanese fighters from Sunni and Shiite Islam battle common enemies in Israel and Syria.

    Sunni Muslims are not the only ones to join up: Christians and nonpracticing Shiites who subscribe to Hezbollah’s brand of violent resistance can also join the nondenominational brigade.

    “Saraya al-Muqawama is made for non-extremist people,” said Sami Ramadan, a Sunni recruiter for the group. “Hezbollah has to be religious, but in Lebanon we are divided so why should Hezbollah be the only one who can resist? So Hezbollah made this [brigade] so everyone can join.”

    Usman’s assault rifle, which he carries with him everywhere, is provided by Hezbollah. He is ever ready, he says, for the call to defend his homeland against local Sunni extremists or to deploy with the Shia militant group to fight the mostly Sunni opposition in neighboring Syria.

    • Replies: @Moi
  4. Lot says:

    Israel’s AI and drones are revolutionizing warfare already, and advancing at a blistering pace.

    Arabs will keep losing, but the kill ratio is going to favor Israel more and more.

  5. Taxi says:
    @Lot

    Iranian drones are advancing at a “blistering pace” too. So what? Pray tell how drones can stop the thousands of ballistic missiles that will rain down on tel aviv in the next war?

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Priss Factor
  6. Well, Mr. Unz’s webzine seems to be getting increasingly eccentric

    • Replies: @noname27
    , @ariadna
  7. Kirt says:

    I changed my opinion of Hezbollah from negative to positive when I observed how merciful they were to pro-Israel collaborators after they drove the last Israeli forces from Lebanon and how they did not attempt to seize all power for themselves. Their mercy and humility is completely unprecedented for a successful revolutionary group as far as I know and they have continued to show these qualities in Lebanon and Syria, defending other religious groups and supporting cooperation among men of good will. The author also has some excellent advice for Americans, especially those who seem to relish a possible second civil war.

    • Agree: Alfred, Iris, Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @Tucker
    , @Ivan
  8. Lot says:
    @Taxi

    Yeah sure, thousands of ballistic missiles!

    Iran’s supposed technology will impress me when Israel stops killing them at will in Syria and when they stop shooting down civilian jumbo jets.

    They can’t even make a nuke, which is 75 year old technology. Their IQs are just too low!

  9. @Lot

    ‘Israel’s AI and drones are revolutionizing warfare already, and advancing at a blistering pace.

    ‘Arabs will keep losing, but the kill ratio is going to favor Israel more and more.’

    You keep thinking it’s all about military supremacy, Lot. You keep thinking that.

  10. Thank you Taxi. Today, when going through my e.m.’s I came to realize why Plato’s has been rather quiet lately. You have been busy composing this superb, eloquent essay on Hezbollah, true Warriors and not mere cannon-fodder fighters as those who dominate most military organizations. It reminded me of the original 1775 revolutionary version of Yankee Doodle, when one of the colonists completely transformed the meaning of a song which the British used to deride the “Yankee Bumpkins” who had the brass to stand up to the Royal Army of Great Britain.

    Great messages require great writing and I recommend that all the thousands across the planet who tune on this, the last and the best of open forums thoughtfully check out your encomium for those who stand staunchly and steadily against the forces of the evil which is Rothschild-Zionism

    • Agree: Black Picard
    • Replies: @Black Picard
    , @Marten
  11. tamako says:

    I’ll bite.

    What’s the reasoning behind picking that specific girl (who’s probably from a CGDCT anime) as the lead image?

    • Replies: @Taxi
  12. Frankie P says:
    @Lot

    The f***ing worthless piece of s*** Hasbara troll known as Lot seems to be ignoring the new meaning of “price tag attack”. It used to refer to right wing settlers attacking Palestinian land and people, Christians, left-wing Jews, and even security forces. Now it refers to the reprisal that Israel will face for ANY ATTACK of ANY KIND on Lebanon, Lebanese people, and Hezbollah brothers regardless of their location. Hey Lot, why did Israel abandon its border with Lebanon when faced with the prospect of one of these price tag attacks in response for killing two Hezbollah fighters in Syria. And what’s with the dummies in military vehicles to try to draw fire from Hezbollah and trick them into believing that they have gotten revenge. What kind of powerful state with high tech drones would carry out cowardly acts like these? Hey, that’s a great role for you, Lot! You can do your service to Israel as a f***ing dummy in a military vehicle in an abandoned military base in Northern Israel on the border! And wtf were those big Israeli military maneuvers at the beginning of the month of November, 2020? All that money and maneuvering, only to face the prospect of an invasion of Israeli territory from the North! My how things have changed. From attacking neighbors from the air with impunity 20 to 40 years ago, to cowering 10 km from the borders and doing maneuvers to defend against an attack. Lots of progress from the likes of Lot.

    • Agree: Druid, Joe Levantine
  13. SAY GOODBYE TO HEZBOLLAH. SWEET DREAMS

  14. Taxi says:
    @Lot

    Who needs a nuke aiming at israel when the Dimona is within missile reach?

    Keep drinking the kosher koolaid – it’s easier for the Resistance to defeat an army of self-deluded idiots. Oh wait, the Resistance has already done that a few times over. What more to say except the next koolaid round is on me.

    • Agree: WHAT
    • LOL: Ann Nonny Mouse
  15. Taxi says:
    @tamako

    She’s cuter than Hassan Nasrallah.

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  16. Metropole says:

    This article reminded me of stories of the how Arabs of old practiced strict rules of battle. When Christian armies came into contact with Muslim armies during the crusades the concept of ‘chivalry’ was born and taken back to Europe.

    Arabian Chivalry Contributions to European Chivalry

    While European Chivalry has its own ancient origins, some distinctive traditions of ancient Arabian Chivalry made substantial contributions to the unique brand of medieval European Chivalry of the Knights Templar.

    Historians specializing in medieval Arabia have established that 11th-12th century European Chivalry was greatly influenced by ancient Arabian Chivalry (Al-Furúsiyyah Al-Arabiya) (الفروسا العربيه): “During the Arab era… and the years of the Crusades, Chivalry with all its attributes was transferred to Western Europe. An important Arab contribution to Western medieval society, its origin has been virtually ignored by Western historians.” In particular, “The ethical and romantic characteristic” of Chivalry (Furúsiyyah) (فروسه), “as practiced in the Arabian Peninsula, evolved and spread with the Muslim expansion.”

    https://www.knightstemplarorder.org/muslim-chivalry-templars/

    • Disagree: Rich
    • Thanks: Alfred, antitermite
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anon
    , @KA
  17. @Taxi

    Israel got nukes and the US as its bull mastiff.

  18. @Lot

    South Africa (I´m getting myself into a sympathy chiasma 😛 ) has shown the kill ratio amounts to little; without German money and US weapons Israel would already be a footnote (and their smart faction doesn´t breed; offering protection to fraudsters and child molesters is not a business model).
    South Africa´s one-shot miracle was the gold price, Israel´s is the Six Million ™ .

    This, too, shall pass.

    • Agree: Z-man, Old and Grumpy
  19. MEexpert says:

    Finally, some one has the nerve to write the truth about Hezbollah. As far the Lot and his lot, the day of reckoning is coming. Keep on counting your nukes.

  20. @Icy Blast

    Crying Israeli soldiers after their defeat in Lebanon in 2006 at the hands of Hezbollah:

    Where was Yahweh (if he exists)?

  21. Anon[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    i think you are fooled by Israeli war propaganda. Israel keeps claiming they successfully killed some iranian/hellzollah commander whenever they bombed some random empty dirt.

  22. Adûnâi says: • Website
    @nokangaroos

    The Freikorps were the lapdogs of the Weimar Republic. Objective, materialist history clearly demonstrates the superiority of a Communist country before a Christian bourgeois rot.

    The article also omits the victories of the KPA. Do the Hezbollah sing such dignified songs as in Hyperborean Korea? Do the Hezbollah release videos where the Red Star in the sky shines through the vision of a Man? Very anti-Christian!

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  23. Toni says:

    @taxi is making love again to his Hezbollah masters. You can feel his erotic fixation banging through the computer screen.
    Lebanon has an official army but the country is abducted by a para-military group that is following orders from Teheran. This terror group doesn’t mind dragging Lebanon to war, bending down to Syria’s Assad family like a bitch, murdering Lebanese politicians as long as the money from the Shia ayatollahs keep coming. They employ soulless low lives like Taxi to spread their propaganda no one is buying. Every man, woman and child in Lebanon knows who killed Hariri and who had a hangar full of chemicals in Beirut port.
    Hezbollah is not just the enemy of the evil joos but also of every Sunni and Christian in the region.

  24. Alfred says:
    @Lot

    Israel’s AI and drones are revolutionizing warfare already, and advancing at a blistering pace.

    You have misunderstood the difference that drones will make. What used to require a helicopter or an F-16 can now be accomplished by gadgets that cost a few thousand dollars. That is greatly to the advantage of those forces with limited resources. Furthermore, drones are more effective in defense than in attack.

    What happened in Nagorno-Karabakh was an anomaly – an invading army succeeding with the help of Israeli and Turkish drones. If the Armenians had similar drones and electronic counter measures, the Azaris would have been decimated and the Armenian defenders would have remained sheltered in their protected bunkers. But the Armenians had George Soros on their side and that ensured that they were ill-prepared. 🙁

    The other point was made by TAXI, drones cannot stop missiles. The Israelis don’t even know where the missiles are hidden. Their previous invasion of Lebanon was a disaster because their mighty air force was bombing wastelands.

    The Israeli navy is totally useless at present. They used to bombard South Lebanon at will. Now, it is another matter. Here is some Israeli “feel good” news for home consumption. The Egyptians are unable to protect a gas pipeline to Israel that traverses Sinai. What hope does Israel have of protecting its gas pipeline that is deep under water? Almost anyone can cut it and blame others. The rigs are sitting targets.

    Israel set to receive new warship to defend gas rigs from missile attack (Times of Israel)

    • Replies: @Druid
  25. WHAT says:
    @Lot

    Ah, the usual drone masturbation drivel. Last time I bothered to look, le brave kikes left their positions at the mere notion of being under fire. On Golans, no less.
    Actual warfare will destroy you completely, as the last fighting jews of soviet origin are dying.

  26. Here is the translation of your beautiful article, in french, Mr TAXI:
    https://plumenclume.org/blog/637-la-beaute-du-hezbollah

    • Thanks: Iris, Taxi
  27. Anon[763] • Disclaimer says:
    @Metropole

    If a black achiles wasnt enought now robin hood was muslim too, Sick of all the vultures trying to insert thenselfs as a part of the european ethos

  28. noname27 says: • Website
    @Gross Terry

    Eccentricity is the healthy sign of a free nation and/or society.

  29. “This noble aegis pleases their god: Hezbollah warriors live for nothing but to please their god, therefore they will never break or dissolve the divine contract they’ve undertaken with their god.”

    How do you know that there is god and is actively engaged in the lives of people who haven’t gotten a single Nobel Prize for scientific achievements?

    You shouldn’t have wasted so much space on the exploits of Hezbollah but should have gone right to the nub of the evil: Jews.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  30. “They are willing to die for three principled notions: for god, for family, and for nation. They live and die for nothing else but for god, family and nation.”
    By gum, Hezbollah sound like what Zionism was supposed to turn the Jews into…..

    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  31. Good read. Well done Taxi. For the americans, it is too late and if fact I hope it just collapses ASAP. That should force the “reset”

  32. Tucker says:
    @Kirt

    I disagree with this idea of being merciful to the Israeli enemy. This is an enemy, not only to Hezbollah and Lebanon – but to the entire civilized world – and this is an enemy who is absolutely ruthless and unprincipled and is willing to use every dirty and underhanded trick in their vast playbook to defeat whoever they hate.

    I say that all rules of ‘good sportsmanship’ or ‘fair play’ or ‘mercy’ have to be suspended when fighting this tribe of Satanic monsters.

    The single guiding principle must be total ruthlessness.

    • Agree: HeebHunter, Druid
    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  33. Ivan says:
    @Kirt

    Yes it was a total surprise to me that when around the year 2000, Ehud Barak abandoned Israel’s proxies, the so-called South Lebanese Army , to their collective fate, the Hizb, instead of wreaking vengeance allowed for their rehabilitation by the Lebanese.

  34. @GeeBee

    @ Epaminondas says: Where do we find soldiers like the ones in the photo? I want those guys back.


    The usual suspects have erased most versions of, i.e. Horst Wessel lied and authentic Panzerlied.
    It occurs to me German soldiers give The Usual Suspects a rush like no other can; they cannot resist admiring and longing for the otherwise unattainable strength & purity of a true warrior.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  35. Ugetit says:

    Good article. Inspring even.
    While this paragraph is true, the timeline is a bit off.

    Jewish supremacy that has been blatantly dominant of American life internally and American foreign policy internationally for the past 60+ years (since the Kennedy assassination, in fact). Jewish power that has essentially been corrosive and disfiguring of American traditional life domestically, and ruinous upon its purse and reputation internationally.

    Ulysses S. Grant, Joseph Kennedy, Henry Ford, and Joseph McCarthy along with many others knew that it was not only dominant long before that, but blatantly so. In fact, we’ve been blatantly “Weimared” since at least the “Roaring 20s.” Anyone who doubts that needs to study the time period of FDR’s presidency. Like every administration since then, his was teeming with “wreckers.” In fact, Woodie the Venal Fool himself would have a hard time escaping the charge.

    Source: Wikipedia and Grant E. Hamilton – Cornell University: Persuasive Cartography: The PJ Mode Collection “Judge” magazine.

    • Replies: @Iris
  36. Thim says:

    A warrior terrorist amongst Musselmans? Who wudda thought it? Isn’t their desert demon all about peace and coexistence?

    • Disagree: ariadna
    • Replies: @anonymous
  37. Hezbollahs weakness is its lack of Soft Power, whilst its adversaries have a surfeit of it.

    The typical Ken/Karen of the West is incapable of comprehending the distinction between a Hezbollah warrior & an ISIS headchopper, and if confronted with the documentation how the former (on behalf of Assad) has been eradicating the latter (as proxy for A-Z-Otts), they look at you as if you’re off your meds, whilst muttering something about “the only good towelheads..”

    I came across a wonderful tribute to a Hezbollah hero of 2006 – I regret I did not bookmark it.
    The fellow had singlehandedly been responsible for all the successful rocket hits in one particular firefight, dashing from one ambush site to the next with scant seconds to escape after each launch before withering return fire.

    More anecdotes, firsthand accounts, are required from Hezbollah fighters or Lebanese civilians.
    Perhaps the museum of resistance holds the inspiration needed.

    Hezbollahs heroes & victories need to be sung.
    Battles like Bull Run, Rorke’s Drift, Sekigihara have been explored ad infinitum, books have been written about the personalities involved and what-ifs.
    What about Wadi al-Oyoun or Bint Jbeil?

    There are plenty of stories from the Nation of Zionists.
    It is surprising (? really) how many were told – and still believe – that they were conducting defensive sorties. That they were under attack. A victim complex will do that I suppose.

    All this talk about Kill-Ratios reminds me of how the US special forces entered Vietnam with “Hearts & Minds” – used successfully by the British SAS a decade earlier – but by the end of the war they became obsessed with “BodyCount”.
    They lost their warrior ethos & turned into professional goons.

    Somewhat like the Empire and its present blades-for-hire, ISIS headchoppers & Aussie handchoppers.
    The acts that are their hallmark have zero application other than to terrorise.
    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-11/afghan-files-shed-light-on-notorious-severed-hands-case/8496654?nw=0&pfmredir=sm
    Atrocities like these, like “Collateral Murder”, small (in the larger context eg genocide) but undeniable, need to be aired.
    For Shame.

  38. Frankie P says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Kind of like in 2006, right Fran, after Israel unleashed air attacks on South Beirut and southern Lebanon, subsequently reporting that they had destroyed all Hezbollah bases and all their Kayusha rockets and launchers? Your dream is something similar to this, the Israeli statement that Hezbollah was gone? The surprises had started earlier, remember Fran, with Operation Truthful Promise, the masterstroke kidnapping of Israei soldiers from Israei territory, Hezbollah brothers spending days and weeks in Israel, unwilling to attack or kidnap civilians, as that was not the mission. So unlike the scum Israeis, who are always willing to kill women, elderly, children. So after the Israeli announcement, the real missiles started flying and falling in Haifa, and wasn’t that a surprise, that the Kayusha rockets were just a distraction, and the guided missiles started striking fear into Israeli hearts. Another surprise, but you, like the Israelis, still want to believe and hope that Hezbollah is no longer. Then another surprise: The Hanit, the Israeli warship that had been bombing Lebanese infrastructure with impunity, was struck by a C-802 precision missile 16 km. from the coast, with Nasrallah announcing the attack LIVE ON THE RADIO. Another masterstroke, leaving the Israelis sputtering about a North Korean missile team, or an Iranian missile team. Wrong again. The brothers of Hezbollah. So now Israel realized that with C-802s with a range of over 100km., their ships were vulnerable and not in play. Now as bombs fell on the suburbs of Beirut, so did missiles fall on Haifa. Thus, Israel made their fatal error of deciding on a land invasion, and so began the third surprise in this war of surprises. The Israelis prided themselves on the Merkhava 4th generation tank, which they thought invincible. Unfortunately for them, Hezbollah had studied it and found its weaknesses. So began a clusterf*** of massive proportions for the Israelis as Hezbollah brothers fired anti-tank Metis M and Milan missiles, destroying the “invincible” Merkhava 4. Other brothers popped out of tunnels with shoulder-mounted Kornet anti-tank weapons. The biggest debacle for the Israelis was in the Hujier Valley in South Lebanon, a veritable graveyard of Merkhava 4s. Hezbollah destroyed fully 25% of Israel’s Merkhava tanks. Like the Israelis, you think that you can wave a magic wand and mutter some words about the end of Hezbollah and it will somehow come about. However, Taxi’s description of Hezbollah is accurate; these men are warriors, defending their nation, their people and their God. You, and Israel, are mistaken. God bless the Resistance. May it grow in the US as well as people open their eyes to the poison that oligarch Jews and even little Jews like you, Lot, and Aaron spew into our nation and people

    • Thanks: Alfred, Druid
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Taxi
  39. Z-man says:
    @Taxi

    You should have made the image look more ethnically appropriate.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  40. Lot says:
    @Icy Blast

    Ending an occupation of a Muslim craphole isn’t losing a war. Israel can invade and smash the Hezzies at will, which is what it did.

    Israel need have no further involvement there, as integrating Judea and Samara is what’s important.

    “Losing” in 2006 would have been trying to stay there.

    They’ll be keeping Shebaa Farms though.

    Query: the past 5 years, how many Arabs have Hezbollah killed versus how many Jews? 40,000 versus 5?

  41. Croissant says:
    @Lot

    Israel’s AI and drones are revolutionizing warfare already, and advancing at a blistering pace.

    lol true… checkmate Arabs!

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  42. Jimmydan says:

    Where is my human parrot? 123.
    Perhaps your trainer is cutting down on your treats as evident by your fewer and fewer posts.

    The fake “PEACE” lover.

  43. @Lot

    Sweety, if you haven’t noticed your brethren are out to destroy the western civilization with low IQ brown people invading and whining. Who are you going to steal this tech from down the line. The Chinese? They do an awful lot of stealing as well. Hezbollah just has to keep out breeding Israelis til there is no white man to come to their rescue. It’s gonna happen probably sooner rather than later. When you vilify the white man to the brown/black man all the time, your myriad of holocausts and polgrams will become anecdotal. As your ilk’s promises of righteousness against the white man become empty, they’ll notice your whiteness and want a payout. Truly some of the dumbest, unaware people walking the earth has to be Jews in general. I can’t even imagine what Israel is like. I do notice a lot of Jews leave it. May all the gods out there bless Hezbollah. I’m not sure they are aware that they are fighting for all of us gentiles. Thank you guys.

  44. Jimmydan says:
    @Lot

    Just take US support of Israel from the equation and let us see how long brave Zionist in Israel could last?
    Billion of tax US tax payer dollars, tax deductible individual contributions to the Zionists in Israel. Israeli citizens holding US cabinet positions, and position is intelligence agencies, US citizens fighting for Israel while shying away to volunteer in US arm forces (loyalty???) and the list goes on. And of course free propaganda in print, air and via Hollywood.

    The truth is coming out slowly about all this constant brain washing and people are getting more informed. Victimhood portrayal days are numbered.
    Any intelligent counter argument?

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  45. anon[792] • Disclaimer says:

    Their resistance culture is humanist. Through and through.

    “Humanist” must be another name for Islam. The entire point of Islam, TAXI, is that “human” is not the cosmic conscious center nor purpose of “creation”. “No god but God” means “no ‘humanism’ god”.

    A “god”, TAXI, is that which guides, informs, and commands your conscious. The God of Islam (think Father of trinity) is God of ALL. Non-Humans are included. Other planets are included. It is ‘universal’ in the extreme. There is no room for mini-gods in Islam. None. Aleikum Salam.

    p.s. It would take a while but every single line item of yours, including treatment of captives and enemy non-combatants and enemy soldiers, will have a precedent in a Hadith of the Prophet.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
    , @anonymous
  46. Moi says:
    @Anonymous

    There is no your God or my God. There is only one God/Creator, whom all speakers of Arabic call Allah and Jesus called Alaha (in Aramaic).

    Hezbollah, though mostly Shia, fight as Muslims in the great tradition of Caliph Umar, Khalid Al-Waleed, Salahuddin, and many others.

    Interestingly, Jesus’s followers abandoned him when they came to arrest Christ (Shame on them!). By contrast, Muhammad’s companions would willing have given their life for the Messenger of God.

    Islam (meaning submission/self-surrender to the Creator) is the central idea in almost all religions.

    The Messenger of God (Muhammad, also referred to as the Beloved of God) rises above all the other prophets who pale by comparison.

    Salaam, Peace, Shanti!!!

    PS: As the Prophet said: The ink of the scholar is holier than the blood of the martyr. Now isn’t that something! He also said heaven lies at the feet of the mother, and all is well with the believer at all times.

    Bigots will not and do not want to understand. Hating is easy, being human is hard.

  47. Rich says:

    Well written, but obviously just a propaganda piece, extolling the viirtues of this small Muslim militia. I don’t doubt that Hezbollah practices strict military discipline, they did well in resisting the Israeli invasion, but their men are still human and all humans are flawed. There are no “perfect” warriors as portrayed in this article and to make idols out of men is always a dangerous thing. A massive air campaign and the eventual use of nukes by the Israelis if Hezbollah became a serious threat to Israel’s homeland or ambitions, would prevent them ever becoming a dominant force outside their small area of control. Hezbollah can’t even help the displaced Palestinian helots, so much for their “strength “.

    • Agree: Reaper
  48. Handydan says:

    Some interesting comments I read on this site about Holocaust a few weeks ago. What a Holocaust Museum doing in Macedonia?
    If the purpose is to teach population about the Holocaust the first thing is to get the story straight. Conflicting information from surviving authors and witnesses should be consolidated.

    May be Zionist, with all their money, should start building museums in shopping malls, at the air port like chapels, mosques, a small or a nano museum and perhaps a 2 minutes documentary shown to captive passengers in an airplane before takeoff, just like safety films. Quick way to educate.

    • Replies: @ariadna
  49. Handydan says:
    @Lot

    You are a genius when you compare oranges with apples and feel good.
    I bet you cant tell what is reality? something you see or something you think?
    Unfortunately, these are the same. We make our own realities. Quantum Mechanics.

    Dont hate people because of their religion, color or ethnicity. People are individuals.
    Good and bad depending how they are raised. It gives me pain to read negative things about jews or Muslims, Christians or whatever. I have many Jewish friends in US and Israel. They dont sound like you and your cohorts. I hate to equate Jews with Zionist, Muslims with Saudi’s family, you got the idea.
    Be nice to your neighbors

  50. AaronB says:

    I love Hezbollah!

    They make things interesting again. In 2006 Israel had grown so arrogant and complacent the army had actually forgotten its infantry tactics! They thought Arabs were such poor fighters that they could let their army grow soft and only focus on policing Palestinians. Even the supply chains, crucial for an army, were neglected, and commanders were so arrogantly casual they gave no clear orders to troops. The Israeli navy was so complacent they didn’t turn on their defense systems, leading to a hit on a vessel.

    Supposedly the age of heroic warfare was ended and air power alone was enough etc etc. Whats cool about the 06 war is that once Israeli troops saw they had a worthy opponent stories of old style soldier heroism began emerging from the front lines.

    My only fear is that Hezbo is so traumatized by the 06 war that its a one time performance. Hezbo swore that it will continue attacking Israeli troops as long as they remained in Lebanon but Israeli forces stayed in Lebanon for weeks after the war and Hezbo didn’t do a thing, Israel assassinated Imad Mugniya and Hezbo does nothing, Israel treats Lebanese air space as if it’s the air over Jerusalem and Hezbo does nothing.

    Before 06, Hezbo was attacking Israeli troops almost every other month. The joke in Israel is that Israels most incompetent war, under its most incompetent prime Minister, actually made the northern border quiet.

    Still, I dont blame Hezbo. They are smart and they know their limits. These kinds of wars, ultimately, have nowhere to go. If Hezbo becomes too good, the town they are hiding in will be simply flattened by artillery. These infantry battles are really a bit of game.

    Still, here’s to beautiful Hezbo bringing back the age of heroic warfare for a brief moment, in miniature.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  51. anon[792] • Disclaimer says:
    @Metropole

    More Arab funded research results. Filed under ‘”Arabian” Nights’, “The Gulf”, and other instances of Semitic tendency to claim other nations’ accomplishements for their own. It’s a semitic habit.

    Iran’s Shahnameh, the central mytho-historic narrative text of Iranians, is mainly the story of the dynamics of Kings and Knights. Rostam, the Iranian Hercules, is a Knight, so were his father and grand father. The central theme of Shahnameh, the Aryan Ethos, is Virtue of the Godly human.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bijan_and_Manijeh

    You can get a sense of the remarkable virtue of the “Iranians of old” by the fact that their central mythological text lauds heroes of other nations that show virtue and merit.

    Now, it is your turn to produce cultural artifacts of “Arabs of old” that predate Islam and have even a whif of “chivalry”.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @KA
  52. Hezbollah’s approach to raising the next generation of warriors is lifted from Western traditions such as the youth leagues of Baden Powell.

    Lebanon was also deeply influenced by the 1936 Berlin Olympics, which introduced them to the glories of organized nationalism beginning in grade school. Modern Hezbollah doesn’t wait until their children are adults to indoctrinate them. Boot camp begins when they’re old enough to walk.

    The West has been too pussified to even remember that the boy scouts were originally a para-military prep school. Western kids are indeed indoctrinated, in subjects like ‘anti-bullying’ ‘tolerance’ ‘equality of the sexes’ and ‘toxic masculinity’.

    Hezbollah’s approach to child-rearing is to put them in uniform young, and raise them with a nationalist purpose. They are also a mirror of their neighbor Israel, with regards to developing martial skills in their youth.

    • Replies: @Reaper
  53. ariadna says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Why do you have to be so mean? Posting that photo is gratuitous cruelty. That fight was very unfair. I blame Israel’s leadership for sending those young IDF soldiers totally unprepared to confront the Hezbollah warriors, when all the experience and training they had had was shooting Palestinian women, children and unarmed men.

    • LOL: Jus' Sayin'..., Taxi
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  54. @Spogus Bogus

    In the concluding passage of Der Judenstaat, Theodor Herzl wrote:

    We shall live at last as free men on our own soil, and die peacefully in our own homes.
    The world will be freed by our liberty, enriched by our wealth, magnified by our greatness.
    And whatever we attempt there to accomplish for our own welfare, will react powerfully and beneficially for the good of humanity.

    What Herzl alludes to is the overwhelming belief among Jews that they are “chosen” to “lead the world.” Maimonides taught that the core of Abraham’s teaching is that Jews have the right and duty to determine how others in the world should believe, live and place their identity.

    As I began typing this, I listened to C Span play a clip of Joe “I am a zionist” Biden introducing his foreign policy team. He declared,

    “America is back, ready to lead the world, not retreat from it. Ready to confront our adversaries and not reject our allies, ready to stand up for our values. . . .I have been struck by how much [18 or 20 world leaders] are looking forward to the United States reasserting its role as a leader in the Pacific and the Atlantic — all across the world.”

    Jake has written many times: Anglo USA inculcated the Jewish-zionist sense of exceptionalism, choseness, and the right to “lead the world.”

    Hezbollah displays no such ideology.

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
  55. ariadna says:

    “Beauty is truth, truth beauty, that is all,” and it applies to this and all of Taxi’s writings I have read so far. An old saying redolent of regional rivalry was that “Poetry is written in Palestine, published in Lebanon and read in Egypt.” The three venues were interchangeable depending on the nationality of the one quoting it. Undeniably, the language itself and the culture seems to make Arabs particularly sensitive to the beauty of expression in poetry as in prose.
    As for the Lebanese it is impossible not to envy them for having what is so thoroughly missing in the Western world: real heroes, patriots, moral and righteous.

    • Replies: @RealAmerican
    , @Taxi
    , @anon
  56. @Taxi

    Hello, Taxi!

    Thanks for this informative & inspirational article.

    I understand Hezbollah Hassan Nasrallah’s predecessor was al-Musawi; assassinated by IDF, February 1992. I do not know details about how they did it.

    As we know Qasem Soleimani, Commander of IRGC’s Quds Force, was satanically killed by a ZUS drone strike, ordered by President “Bonespur” Trump.

    Am following Linh Dinh’s blogspot and priceless articles published on The Unz Review. He noted drones in the beautiful Lebanon sky and frequent sightings of Israeli fighter jets.

    Assume Hassan Nusrallah is extremely careful, perhaps he moves around a lot and becomes a hard target for CIA/Mossad? Maybe some tactful Jews do not want to kill Nusrallah & intensify the glory of Hezbollah martyrdom?

    Thanks again, Taxi! Shall continue to follow your blogspot fortunes.

    Post scriptum: January 2002, Fifty One (51) IDF soldiers refused to fight beyond 1967 borders. Refer to report below? I suggest taking such honorable option is especially dangerous in Israel. They will kill their own.😈

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refusal_to_serve_in_the_IDF

    • Replies: @Taxi
  57. trickster says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Crying ? These poor babies. I feel so sorry for them.

    Take note UR readers, especially the idiots, you are looking at the future conquerors of Iran. They are going to get to it as soon as they get over their Hezbollah whup ass from 2006.

    If these snowflakes are sobbing after Hezbollah reamed them, what will their reaction be if there is all out war with Iran ?

    Hypotheses anyone ??

  58. @ariadna

    I relish in this:

    because of this:

  59. @GeeBee

    You neglected to mention the greatest warriors of them all, the American Mountain Men. Mountain men consistently kicked ass on every Indian tribe them ran into. When moving into a new area to trap, the Mountain Men were met by indigenous warriors who demanded tribute. Never did they give it. What they offered instead was trade. The Indians could take it or leave it. The smart ones, the ones who lived to fight another day, took the deal and struck up bargaining.

    Some tribes resisted. They would return in the night and steal horses from the Mountain Man camp, killing a watchman of two in the raid. Big mistake. The mountain men mounted up and pursued them the next morning, killing all in the raiding party as an example to others who may take it in their heads to do likewise. Then they scalped the dead and sold their scalps to that particular tribe’s enemies.

    Armed with a long gun, two revolvers and a Bowie knife, the Mountain man was a formidable warrior. And they practiced their marksmanship in camp through competitions to see who could shoot the best. Their practice consisted in shooting with both hands from a galloping horse at stakes planted on either side.

    Mountain men stated that thirty of their number could handily deal out unsustainable death to a mob of two hundred Indians. That’s the real story of who won the West and how. The American Indian is vastly overrated. Mountain men often marked them as cowards.

    See, My Sixty Years On The Plains by Hamilton.

  60. Reaper says:

    Well article is quite biased- propagandists, even with the fact Hezbollah is outstanding.

    Actually at my country Hezbollah is the greatest exemplar near IRA about resistance.
    Their march songs – we still listen for inspiration.
    In recent years Kurdish female militias who did fight against ISIS start to get prominence too.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  61. Ugetit says:
    @Jimmydan

    Any intelligent counter argument?

    You are asking a Lot.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  62. @SolontoCroesus

    The Izzies have term for this kind of German joo, “Jecke”.

    – After the war of independence, two Jeckes watch the victory parade in Beersheva.
    “Look at that rabble, will ye.”
    “Right you are; compared to our SA …” 😛

  63. Agent76 says:

    Feb 19, 2018 BLOWBACK: HOW ISRAEL WENT FROM HELPING CREATE HAMAS TO BOMBING IT. WHAT DO YOU know about Hamas?

    That it’s sworn to destroy Israel? That it’s a terrorist group, proscribed both by the United States and the European Union? That it rules Gaza with an iron fist? That it’s killed hundreds of innocent Israelis with rocket, mortar, and suicide attacks?

    https://static.theintercept.com/amp/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict.html

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  64. @Reaper

    Reaper said: “Well article is quite biased- propagandists, even with the fact Hezbollah is outstanding.”

    Yo Reaper!

    Ever see Clint Eastwood’s 2015 blockbuster, “American Sniper”? Is about US Navy Seal, Chris Kyle.💥

    Am glad Taxi has “ideals,” and I have the following question for you. Is anyone in America more “biased-propagandists” than Hollywood?

    Video below, & fyr, illustrates Sarah Palin’s, Newt Gingrich’s, and Quentin Tarantino’s Jewish ideals.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
    , @Reaper
    , @Handydan
  65. Reaper says:
    @Beavertales

    Same true for present Russia – well a part of it.
    I know a girl from there, she was in high school (note: not a military specialised one), and they get training in discipline/ formations/ marching, shoot with live ammo, grenades, hazmat training, how to act during emergencies/ in underground shelters, field first aid (included: gunshot wounds), etc…
    Well in that time she disliked it that much like learn french (I was a girl – that is for boys!) but later she admitted that was very useful, and disasters, emergencies and wars are part of the world/ life and it`s good to be prepared.
    So that was a quite average high school.

    And there are still military schools while the rest of the world tend to close, or mostly already closed. Military schools starting at age 8 – 11 years old.
    https://en.topwar.ru/45230-iz-shkolnikov-v-stavropole-gotovyat-specnaz-rossii.html


  66. @Adûnâi

    Beautiful 🙂 though apple trees would have been somewhat more juche than Rhododendron.

    (take care not to bite off your tongue, as far as you have it in your cheek)

    Gustav Noske (social democrat) used the Freikorps to put down the Munich Soviet (((Kurt Eisner))) and the Spartakist uprising – they buttstroked Rosa Luxemburg (who had even stood up to Lenin) and dumped her in the Landwehrkanal – not my definition of “lap”dogs 😛
    What they did for the East and how they were backstabbed is nowadays only favorably remembered by a few Poles – but they had very unkind words for “Ebert, Scheidemann und Konsorten”.
    It is the sociological aspect of these outcasts that´s so fascinating – the merger of sandhogs and déclassé intelligentsia and how explosive it turned out 😀

  67. Ugetit says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Is anyone in America more “biased-propagandists” than Hollywood?

    From Wikipedia

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  68. Great article! But the stuff about “their god” is misleading. They worship God, period. God repeatedly condemns aggression (udwan, i`tida’) and oppression/injustice (dhulm, fitna). A few examples: “You may fight in the cause of God against those who attack you, but do not aggress. God does not love the aggressors.” [2:190] . “…Oppression and injustice are worse than fighting…” [2:192] “You may fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship God freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; fighting is permitted only against aggressors.” [2:193] It is appropriate to fight “those who drive you out of your homes…” (60:8)

    The Zionists HATE these “sword verses” because they advocate fighting against aggression, oppression and injustice! That is exactly what Hezbollah does…which, of course, is why the Zionists, and the media and politicians they own, hate Hezbollah.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski, Druid
    • Replies: @Ugetit
    , @Franklin Ryckaert
  69. @Lot

    They can’t even make a nuke, which is 75 year old technology.

    They can’t make a nuke, because 2 fatwas, issued by the Supreme Leaders, forbid nuclear weapons. Bibi’s cartoon bombs aside, there has never been any credible evidence of an Iranian weapons programme. The IAEA has found NPT non-compliance in some areas, which have been corrected, unlike the US which is in continual non-compliance due to “misplaced weapons”. Since Yisroel is not an NPT signatory, the IAEA has no clue what it is up to, and no one else does either.

    • Replies: @Bill123
  70. @Lot

    It´s the water, stupid.

    There is nothing left to steal, pollute or evaporate.
    Israel must have the Litani and Bekaa but couldn´t
    (much like Cain had no offspring because he wasn´t abel 😛 )

    That´s not my definition of “winning”.

    • Replies: @Old jew
  71. @Ugetit

    Next time YOU pay for cleaning the keyboard 😀

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  72. @Rich

    Riche$ is at it again. Sooner,perhaps, than later, Hezbollah will acquire S-400’s or some equivalent and all those Yiddi$cher flyovers of Lebanese territory will become a matter of “Recherche de Temps Perdue”—memories of bygone days. As for the use of nukes–don’t you think the fallout would land on I$rael—one way or another.

    Palestinian “helots”? Give me a break. They may have been driven from their homes by terrorist attacks of the Irgun, the Shtern Gang and other genociders, but the Palestinian descendants of the ancient Hebrews are anything but helots.

    At least Reaper the creeper agrees with you. So take solace in that.

    • Replies: @Rich
  73. anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @God's Fool

    who haven’t gotten a single Nobel Prize for scientific achievements?

    A western pagan/godless fool once again deceives himself that shiny worldly achievements are a good measure of God’s blessed alliance with those who receive them. No, you fool!

    Allah is the ally of those who believe. He brings them out from darknesses into the light. And those who disbelieve – their allies are the forces of evil. They take them out of the light into darknesses. Those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide eternally therein. 2:257

    Who needs the Nobel when true monotheists are targeting an eternity in Paradise. That said, I am sure at some point true monotheists will also get their share of worldly glory, by the will of the One and only.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  74. @AaronB

    Yiddischer Bubi Aaron Shtinkienovits: Your masturbation fantasies regarding Hezbollah are quite amusing. Do you use “liberated” from the Palestinian orchards olive oil for lube, a necessity for Mohelischer wounded weenies? If the Mohel performed “bris millah”, your need for healing hed is perpetual.

    Hez warriors “hiding in towns”? Hardy, har, har, har. Their cave system is permeated throughout south Lebanon. Their pop-out tunnels are everywhere.

    Last time the Yiddischer Korps played the infantry battle game with the protectors of Lebanon, the survivors had to change underpants when they returned to “civilization”. They were a bit soiled—both front and back.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  75. Ugetit says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    God repeatedly condemns aggression

    What about “Yahweh,” eh?

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  76. anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thim

    Of course! Peace and coexistence with treaty allies. Or, Fight against deceitful vermin lowlifes, like the IsraHellis, and your kind of degenerate scum, collectively known as the enemies of true monotheism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_Verse

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid

    The Almighty One is perfect, His commandments are perfect!

  77. @anonymous

    What is the IQ of Allah? I hope not the same as that of Arabs, i.e. 85.

    For an impression of Allah’s stupidity, see:

    Scientific Errors in the Qur’an – Wkiislam.net

    • Replies: @God's Fool
  78. Reaper says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Propaganda is privilage for no nation or person, it is widespread.

    Actually when I see anything – which unknown for me – full of glorification/ praise, and with deep emotions I became very cautious and sceptic . And from that point that is incredibly hard to convince me there is any truth in that.

    When know from that, like in this case, even if agree/ have similar opinion then still have a bad taste. Ok, that true, we have same opinion, on the same side, but I prefer to present it in a way when facts talk for themselves and not the opinion of XY about something.

    Like a review:
    I don`t like them, or make decision based on opinion by someone else.
    I read a book, watch a film, look after an organization, ideology or whatever, and form my opinion based on that – not on a review.
    Except if a well know enemy speak agressively against something – than that worth a check out as a possible pearl/ diamond, but even then I look after myself.
    And sure, always critical, there is nothing entirely good or pure, or fine, exempt from dark sides and fails not even my own ideology.

    Jet this is pure personal approach based on life experience ranging from childhood when I get tons of bad marks (as much space left) and nearly fail in the subject of history by a communist teacher because I resisted to ever agree with: “The great Red Army liberated our country.” – still said “occupied, and forced to celebrate defeat as liberation” till later when there was a “system change” and they try to beat into us the holohoax doctrine, and similar things up untill today.

    • Replies: @KA
  79. @Agent76

    Hasbarah and Sayanim are out in force today—raking in the Shekels (paid for by IR$ tribute extracted from American taxpayers)—that tribute going to our “greatest ally”. When was that alliance treaty signed? Do Americans get to know why “our” bought and paid for Prostiticians signed off on that treaty? Let’s add in bribed and blackmailed prostiticians (thanks to the Wexner-Maxwell-Epstein honey-traps, snagging all those horny pols, generals, admirals and suchlike easy marks for the world’s second oldest profession–the procurer/pimps of lissome adolescents.

    “Hundreds of innocent Israelis”. If only that were actually the case—even if a handful of them were actually civilians and not IDF genociders.

    Seems like the quality of Hasbarah and Sayanim trolls has sagged a bit since ’06. Oh well, junior high age I$raelis need Shekels for their video games too.

    • Agree: Agent76
  80. @Taxi

    “A hit! A palpable hit!” Good for you, Taxi. Keep fighting the good fight. Don’t let the Hasbara get you down. Senseless baiting and lies that cowardly killers of women and children pay for at so many shekels per word have no power over true men.

    • Agree: Black Picard
  81. @Ugetit

    God (the universal one) condemns aggression. “Yahweh” (the henotheists’ tribal idol) not so much.

  82. @Toni

    Just another illustration of the need for a HASBARA button on the “AGREE/DISAGREE/ETC.” pop up menu!

  83. J says:

    Hahaha…! I wonder how Hassan Nasrallah will take your using that smiling virgin as Hizballah’s logo.

  84. Rich says:
    @Majority of One

    My point is that the Palestinians are treated like helots by the Israelis. They live like slaves and work like slaves and can be killed by the Israelis at any time the Israelis choose. That’s about as close to being a helot as you can get.

    Get back to me when Hezbollah gets an air defense system that can overcome Israeli air and missile power. As one group gains a technological step up, its enemy usually does, too. Israeli, German and American engineers are constantly advancing, I doubt Hezbollah will suddenly surpass them.

    Why not seek a peaceful solution where all sides can find a way to avoid war and the Palestinian people can find some dignity and a decent future for their children? I don’t see any military way Israel is defeated.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Ugetit
  85. @Kevin Barrett

    “…You may fight in the cause of God against those who attack you, but do not aggress. God does not love the aggressors.” [2:190] …”

    Allah must love aggressors quite a lot. Otherwise he would not have allowed his followers to conquer with the sword the Middle East, North Africa, Spain, Persia, Central Asia and India. In Europe his followers could only stopped in 732 at Poitiers in France by Charles Martel. In 1683 Allah’s followers could barely be defeated at the gates of Vienna.

    Or do you call these consistent acts of Muslim aggression “self-defense” and try in that convoluted way to save your faith in what for all practical purposes is a rogue religion?

    • Agree: Rich
  86. AaronB says:
    @Majority of One

    Their cave system is permeated throughout south Lebanon. Their pop-out tunnels are everywhere.

    Good. I hope they keep their training and remain strong. We need good enemies or we become soft. The Israeli army had actually stopped training in basic infantry and combined arms tactics and had forgotten how to fight a real war lol before 06. The IDF was becoming a glorified police force. Hezbo did us a huge favor by attacking.

    In truth, the military is part of the whole romance and mythos of modern Israel’s founding, and Israel would become boring and soft if peace were to suddenly break out. All those storied old heroes and commandos defeating Arabs in impossibly daring and bold raids, fearless men often deep behind enemy lines, against a backdrop of dramatic and magnificent scenery, stark desert and craggy mountain, is part of the mythology and romance of modern Israel.

    And the army continues to inspire dreams of adventure and daring among Israeli youth, despite the increase in modernity, comfort, and technology, and the enemy threat is what inspires the bold ingenuity and odds-defying inventiveness of Israel’s tech center.

    The Palestinians do not provide enough of a threat. What worries me is that Hezbo has been so quiet for the past 14 years and has failed to respond to several extremely high level provocations by Israel. The problem is that Hezbo are now integrated into the Labanese state and have a huge stake in the country. They are no longer just a guerilla organization but now have something to lose. When the Israeli Airforce can decimate all of Beirut in 24 hours its not so simple to start a war, as when you’re a dashing guerilla fighter living in caves and out in the bush.

  87. @Icy Blast

    The real army of Israel is the red neck boys of the US Army and US Marine Corps.

  88. @Lot

    ‘…Ending an occupation of a Muslim craphole isn’t losing a war. Israel can invade and smash the Hezzies at will, which is what it did…’

    …which is why you haven’t tried going back.

    • Replies: @Lot
  89. AaronB says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    That was how the Romans famously acquired their empire, by claiming their wars of aggression were in self defense.

    The Muslims here do indeed claim that the Muslim conquests were all started in self defense.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  90. @Franklin Ryckaert

    ‘…Or do you call these consistent acts of Muslim aggression “self-defense” and try in that convoluted way to save your faith in what for all practical purposes is a rogue religion?’

    If a religion is practiced by more people on the planet than any other, it is, by definition, not ‘a rogue religion.’

  91. @Rich

    ‘…Why not seek a peaceful solution where all sides can find a way to avoid war and the Palestinian people can find some dignity and a decent future for their children?…’

    Well, for starters, we’d need an Israel that would keep its word.

    In fact, if the Zionists would just honor the successive commitments they’ve made over the last hundred years, the problem would be largely solved.

    Conversely, if they needn’t keep their word, there’s not much point in attempting to negotiate with them, is there?

    • Agree: ariadna
  92. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Hezbullah the Kind will provide Yid
    with geographical dictionaries, world globes,
    road maps for some 180 countries from
    which they came to which they can return.

    One condition: They take nothing with them
    but the skin on their backs, the dandruff on their
    heads and their foul breath.

    Assume everything else stolen.

    Kites and duct tape will be fairly priced.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @ariadna
  93. @Colin Wright

    The people who practise it are unfortunately some of the most subhuman people on this planet. Islam is a mortar that binds together the dysgenic specimens from Mauritania to Indonesia.

    Perhaps if Europeans mass converted some prestige could be lent to its name, but the days of the Taj Mahal are long gone and never will return, perhaps Whites are facing the same fate however

    • Disagree: Colin Wright
  94. Handydan says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    I remember back then before the release of this porn movie there were lot of noise about awarding the movie an academy for best film of the year.
    The hero Chris was killed like a dog by his friend. You live by sword and

    • Agree: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  95. Thank you, Taxi. You are a very respectable woman. Hezbollah, next to the North Koreans, are the only true fighters left against the kikes and their amerimutt/anglo enforcers.
    May the Almighty bless them and deliver us from this evil for eternity.

  96. GeeBee says:
    @Toni

    You can feel his erotic fixation

    Dear Taxi is a woman. Your comment is crass before it even began..

    • Replies: @Gross Terry
  97. Kratic says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Where did you hear that Muslims invaded other countries in self defense. Like any other tribe, country, nation a new religion invasion was for expansion. Mostly before invasions Muslims rulers sent their envoys to nations with offers to become part of the expanding empire (at least that is the version offered by some historian. But the real story we may never know). Invasion of Uzbek territories was triggered by the killing of Muslim Missionaries in Tashkent. In Indian waters piracy of the ships of pilgrims was constant headache and political pressure on the ruler of Baghdad caused the conquest. Of course expansion in mind.
    The expansion model was used over and over throughout the history and still used by US. Remember “they hate our values and our democracy” let us attack them. Muslims are no different than Christians, or Jews or whoever. I dont think atheists are too eager to fight in the name of religion

    • Replies: @Charlemagne
  98. @Tucker

    This. Kikes are not humans, and any sentinent humans who serve their cause willingly and does not repent is a subhuman. Period.

    So called modern ethnonationalists should have learned from Germany, what will get when you grant (((them))) clemency. You will be demonized anyway, and the golems will shit on your grave forever.

    • Replies: @Ugetit
  99. Lot says:
    @Colin Wright

    “ you haven’t tried going back”

    I am not an Israeli, but an American well-wisher. I’ve never even been to the mideast!

    Israel hasn’t needed to return back to Lebanon the same reason it hasn’t needed to return to Syria: it enemies are dogs that bark and growl, but fear to bite.

  100. @Handydan

    Unpardonably broken Scranton Greetings, handydan!

    Ever hear of beautiful war crimes? 😈 Please look at the video, linked below?

  101. Ugetit says:
    @Rich

    As one group gains a technological step up, its enemy usually does, too. Israeli, German and American engineers are constantly advancing…

    Cute. Funny too; and simple minded. To get a clue, ask Americans about Vietnam.

    • Replies: @Rich
  102. @Kratic

    Kratic,

    ” I dont think atheists are too eager to fight in the name of religion.” Well the twentieth century proves you wrong. How many dead from atheist communist? 50-100 million? And don’t tell me they’re not atheist. They at least contend they are.
    You go to public school in Newark?

    • Agree: ariadna
  103. Quite a few hasbara and sayanim and self-hating Americans in the comments section…

    Hezbollah and Al-Quds carry on a war with the zionists that is almost completely blocked from western media. It was about two years ago(?) that for a few days a video was circulating showing a Zionist military convo being hit. The word was a high ranking general was killed and the news was silenced in Occupied Palestine because it displayed that Hezbollah and Al-Quds could operate and kill in occupied Palestine. The zionists also had the video yanked in a matter of days—as far as I know—hopefully it is still floating around.

    Hits like that on the zionists take place often but we don’t hear about it and most in the region don’t either.

    • Agree: Black Picard
    • Replies: @Black Picard
  104. Ugetit says:
    @HeebHunter

    So called modern ethnonationalists should have learned from Germany, what will get when you grant (((them))) clemency.

    Exactly.

    The czars made similar mistakes with similar results.

    When dealing with them one must never even consider thinking about clemency. Read what yahweh said in “da book,” and it’ll be clear to everyone what we’re dealing with.

    Eternally pernicious, vicious, bloodthirsty, sadistic vermin.

    • Thanks: HeebHunter
  105. @Frankie P

    Hezbollah will be gone in a year. The Suni Arabs hate them. Iran is broke. The normal people in Lebanon hate them. They have thousands of rockets hold up in civilian areas. People are pissed. Like look at the port disaster. People fucking hate them in the ME. Unless you happen to be a Shia nut job like you and Taxi. Say goodby. To Hamas as well. Jihadism is finished over there. All the Suni Arabs want peace with Israel. Peace is stronger then Jihad.
    People in Israel call Nasrallah the rat. He comes out of his cubby hole once a month to say something and then retreats back into his hidden caves. What a leader.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Notsofast
  106. Art says:
    @Toni

    Hezbollah is not just the enemy of the evil joos but also of every Sunni and Christian in the region.

    That is totally untrue!

    TROLL!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  107. God bless Hezbollah for standing up against Israel and the ZUS and for helping Syria defeat AL CIADA aka ISIS a creation of Israel and the ZUS and ZBritain and ZNATO and Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  108. ariadna says:
    @anon

    What???
    And leave behind the desert they made bloom, that was a country without people for a people without a country and where, after they made it prosperous, hordes of Ayrabs poured in and claimed they were natives called Palestinians, the Promised Land where they returned after thousands of years of unspeakable suffering and persecution in the diaspora at the hands of the idolaters called Christians, not before making those countries prosperous with their hard work and ingenuity, always hoping to be people like other people, but better than all others for their divine mission to repair the world???!!!!

  109. @Fran Taubman

    one hopes (((Fran Taubman))) has already made her reverse aliyah from Zionist-occupied Palestine to Zionist-controled ‘Murka…..as more than 3 million Jews already have. Otherwise

    she herself may be collateral damage the next time Israhell attacks Lebanon.

  110. all this warrior /honor nonsense is stuff losers always say when they get their shit pushed in.

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  111. @GeeBee

    Dear Taxi is a woman. Your comment is crass before it even began..

    Ah yes, a woman into cute anime girls and extremist politics. I doubt biologically

  112. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Some Muslim rulers have waged wars in self-defense, others have been expansionist and predatory. Obviously many rulers of Muslim states have not followed Islamic ideals—though on the whole they have come a lot closer than Christian rulers have to following the Christian ethic of “love your enemies” and “turn the other cheek.”

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  113. Can you imagine a White European man like me praising Hezbollah? Yes, I know my enemy and may they be destroyed at any cost before my race is destroyed. We are united and don’t believe the lies that Hezbollah hates Christians. Read the article again, many jew subversives in the comments.

  114. Hezbollah knows their enemies, jews and the evangelical Christian., the Christians who love and worship the jew who killed the messiah Christ our lord. Long live Hezbollah, may God be with you, you may be our only chance. As a White European we need to ally with Hazbolla to destroy both our enemies.

  115. @Gross Terry

    It’s such gross propaganda almost hilarious because it is so yesteryear. The Shia Jihadist have reached their zenith and are clearly on the other side. Taxi is delusional. The Suni’s together with Israel want peace, prosperity and economic opportunity for its people. Who can disagree with that and suggest that trying to kick the Jews out of Al -Quds is anything but a fantasist idea which is where Islam and Muslims really excellent selling fantasies to naive people.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @MEexpert
  116. @Rich

    Do you think it would be wise to use nuclear weapons in such close proximity? Are you a strategist in the IDF? Have you ever tried to position a tank on the back of a trailer?

    • Replies: @Rich
  117. @Lot

    I like the dumbasses who keep their heads in their asses! Please keep it up and encourage the other asses to do so too😹. But don’t complain though when you’re surprised!

  118. J Daley says:

    Superb essay! Bravo to Ron Unz for posting it.

  119. Rich says:
    @Ugetit

    You may have learned history in a communist controlled school. The US defeated the NVA in every major engagement and destroyed the VC as a fighting force by 1969. Operation Linebacker forced the Reds to come crawling to the negotiating table begging for peace. The US came up with a reasonable treaty in which the communists recognized the integrity of the South and agreed to peaceful negotiations. As soon as Nixon was removed, the communists recognized that the new leftist Congress supported them and invaded the South, 2 years after American withdrawal. Had Nixon survived the coup, the North would never have dared attack. The West’s technology was too much for them.

  120. @Franklin Ryckaert

    ‘Quantity is not quality.’

    That doesn’t actually alter the point.

    It’s indefensible to the point of idiocy to claim Islam is a ‘rogue religion.’

    Walmart may well be tacky. That doesn’t somehow demonstrate it’s an unsuccessful business.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  121. @Art

    ‘Hezbollah is not just the enemy of the evil joos but also of every Sunni and Christian in the region.

    That is totally untrue!

    TROLL!

    Definitely. Whatever it is, ‘Toni’s’ not even very good at it.

    Maybe Lot or some such mediocrity could offer tutorials to it.

  122. @Fran Taubman

    ‘…Who can disagree with that and suggest that trying to kick the Jews out of Al -Quds is anything but a fantasist idea which is where Islam and Muslims really excellent selling fantasies to naive people.’

    Who can disagree with it?

    Well, I can. I’d note, though, it won’t be necessary for anyone to ‘kick the Jews out.’

    Once the US can’t or won’t continue to sponsor them, they’ll leave on their own.

    After all, look at you. You’re not about to move there, are you?

    No…you’re pretty dumb — but not that dumb.

  123. Iris says:
    @Ugetit

    In fact, we’ve been blatantly “Weimared” since at least the “Roaring 20s.”

    There exist a 2006 Chinese best-selling book, by academic Hong SongBing, which explores and describes very well how the London-based Hebraic banking dynasties relentlessly conspired and intrigued over three centuries to control America’s political process.

    Entitled “Currency Wars”, the book was a huge success, sold hundred of thousands copies and was reportedly read by leading decision-makers in China. It has been translated to many Asian and European languages, but significantly never to English.

    The core topic of the book is nevertheless the USA: the author describes how three centuries of conspiracies and intrigues, including the murder or hushed up murder of several US Presidents, were carried out to ensure that control of America’s (((Central Bank))), the Federal Reserve, would be put into private hands.

    A revolutionary book from China, where it became a bestseller and is hushed up in Europe for (un)known reasons

    https://gefira.org/en/2019/09/24/song-hongbings-currency-wars-a-review

    • Thanks: Robjil
  124. @Colin Wright

    “Established” rogues are still rogues. Islam started as a kind of ISIS avant la lettre, with raids on caravans in which “prophet” Muhammad claimed one fifth of the booty. Captured females were used as sex slaves, all sanctioned by “revelations from Allah” of which there are special verses in the Qur’an (a rogue scripture). At his death “prophet” Muhammad had not only conquered the Arabian peninsula but was preparing an expedition to conquer Syria. His successors conquered in a short time much of the ancient world. Conquering the world is no aberration of Islam, it is its mission. Imams among the Muslim immigrants in Europe openly declare that they will install sharia when Muslims have become the majority. Whether this rogue religion has become a “world religion” does not alter its character. We should not “respect” quantity of inferior quality.

  125. Iris says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Hezbollah will be gone in a year. The Suni (sic) Arabs hate them

    Lol. Yesterday, Saudi Arabia sent a letter to the UN Security Council, informing of Yemeni Houthis responsibility for a missile attack on an oil production plant in Jeddah that took place just this Monday, and begging for help to stop the” threat to global energy security, Yemen’s political process and regional security”.

    Is this how the richest Arab country responds to the poorest Arab country? Is this how the arrogant Israeli whore responds to the battered underdog who has been bombed to smithereens by a mighty coalition since 2015 ? By crying and whining to the UNSC?

    The Houthi Yemenis, just Shia tribal group, not even the entire Yemeni nation, have made a mockery of the Israel-US-Saudi coalition. And you think you can take on Hezbollah?

    Thanks for the comical content anyway, Taubman; every circus needs a clown.

  126. @Kevin Barrett

    The “Islamic ideal” is world conquest. Ever heard of the terms dar al-Islam and dar al-harb? Harb means “war”. Taking booty and using female captives as sex slaves in the process is “divinely” sanctioned by the Qur’an. I call this religion a rogue religion for a reason. Whataboutism of Christians in history does not alter that fact.

    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @Colin Wright
  127. Notsofast says:
    @Fran Taubman

    All the sunni want peace with israel? You mean like hamas? Perhaps you mean wahhabists terrorists that israel pals around with. You might want to learn the difference.

  128. @Toni

    Every man, woman and child in Lebanon knows who killed Hariri and who had a hangar full of chemicals in Beirut port.
    Hezbollah is not just the enemy of the evil joos but also of every Sunni and Christian in the region.

    Repeating a lie over and over again does not make it true. As I told you in the commenting section of another article, Hezbollah (or Syria or Iran) had nothing to do with the killing of Rafic Hariri. As I also said there, I can elaborate if you wish (from key witnesses admitting to perjury to the shifting evidence to the corrupt prosecutor who resigned to etc). In the meanwhile, look at the verdict of the STL (Special Tribunal for Lebanon) set up in place for the case: there is no evidence that either Hezbollah or Syria had nothing to do with the killing.

    As far at the August 4th Beirut port incident goes, you are pushing another lie or at least a conjecture based on nothing but appears to be emotions, bias and propaganda. But if you have actual evidence that Hezbollah had anything to do with it, do present your case and evidence.

  129. Taxi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    I’ll leave the warped history of Islam that you’re disseminating to Mr. Kevin Barret to dissect and disembowel. My comment to you would be to just stfu and start talking about the most violent, racist, humanity-hating and genocidal document in existence today: the evil talmud!

    It doesn’t even pass for a ‘religion’ let alone a “rogue” one!

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  130. Taxi says:
    @ChuckOrloski

    Howdy Chuck! Kind words, thank you, sir.

    Al-Musawi was assassinated by israeli helicopter gunships on his traveling motorcade in 1992. His wife, his small daughter and some 4 bodyguards were also martyred in this jewish war crime.

    After Al-Musawi, Nasrallah came along. A bigger nightmare for the synagogue of satan. A true gift from the ‘gods’, no less.

    I too have been following the super cool Linh Dinh’s eyewitness reports. Fantastic cocktail of word and picture and tickle of funnybone.

    And regarding the jews killing their own: oh yeah they’ve done that plenty of times – too many for me to cite here. The talmudic pharisees show no mercy to no one – not even their own! Just look at what they did to Jesus.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
  131. Kevin Barrett,

    Freedom of speech includes being able to mock the hasbara Jew troll Fran Taubman and anything she believes in.

    Freedom of speech includes being able to mock me and anything I believe in.

    Freedom of speech includes being able to mock you and anything you believe in. Do you agree?

    • Replies: @sarz
  132. Bill123 says:
    @Curmudgeon

    I wrote a paper on some of the history of the IRAN/IAEA a while back. It’s on Scribd if you have access:

    https://www.scribd.com/document/39038338/Pierre-Goldschmidt-Critique

    The US in non-compliant in several ways. One of which is that at the US is obligated to help Iran build nuclear power plants. They obviously are not doing that.

    • Thanks: Curmudgeon
  133. Good article overall. Seems like every writer has to go off the deep end about “da Jews”. Another case of not seeing the forest (capitalism) for the trees (Jews).

    This is because the Lebanese have clearly defined their enemy as Israel, whereas the American collective has yet to identify its insidious internal enemy as ‘Jewish power’. Jewish power that has risen through unsavory and un-American tribal cronyism, nepotism, blackmail and coercion. Jewish supremacy that has been blatantly dominant of American life internally and American foreign policy internationally for the past 60+ years

    This is false, and even Hassan Nasrallah has said this is false. Israel is only a US tool. Sure there are lots of “Jews” at the top, but not all are. So what do all these “people” have in common?

    Hassan Nasrallah: US ruled by huge Oil & Weapons Corporations

    For Americans to be truly free and independent, and they are a captive people at present, they need to first bypass all the Jewish-engineered and sponsored divisions inside of America. Divisions like Identitarian politics, race-baiting and race disharmony, Jewish-owned Hollywood’s demonization of traditional American values, Neoliberalism, globalism, the Federal Reserve, Wall Street, Mainstream media, most of Altmedia – and the long list goes on.

    Just say capitalism dude, good grief. The bogus culture and race war distractions are just a disguise for the real class war.

    Heres some more quotes from Nasrallahs speeches, notice he never blames “da Jews” like the writer seems to believe.

    The crisis of the arrogant world order is deepened by the collapse of U.S. and international stock markets, and by the confusion and powerlessness of the American economy. This reflects the height of the structural crisis of the model of capitalist arrogance. Therefore, it can be said that we are in the midst of historic transformations that foretell the retreat of the USA as a hegemonic power, the disintegration of the unipolar hegemonic order, and the beginning of the accelerated historic decline of the Zionist entity.

    After World War II, the U.S. has adopted the leading, central hegemonic project. At its hands, this project has witnessed great development of the means of control and unprecedented subjugation. It has benefited from an accumulation of multi-faceted accomplishments in science, culture, technology, knowledge, economy, and the military, which was supported by an economic political plan that views the world as nothing but open markets subject to the laws of [the U.S.].

    The most dangerous aspect of Western logic of hegemony in general, and the American logic of hegemony in particular, is their basic belief that they own the world, and have the right to hegemony due to their supremacy in several fields. Thus, the Western, and especially American, expansionist strategy, when coupled with the enterprise of capitalist economy, has become a strategy of a global nature, whose covetous desires and appetite know no bounds.

    The barbaric capitalism has turned globalism into a means to spread disintegration, to sow discord, to destroy identities, and to impose the most dangerous form of cultural, economic, and social plunder. Globalization reached its most dangerous phase, when it was transformed into military globalization by the owners of the Western hegemony enterprise, the greatest manifestation of which was evident in the Middle East, from Afghanistan to Iraq, to Palestine, and to Lebanon.

    There is no doubt that American terrorism is the source of all terrorism in the world. The Bush administration has turned the U.S. into a danger threatening the whole world, on all levels. If a global opinion poll were held today, the United States would emerge as the most hated country in the world.

    The most important goal of American arrogance is to take control of the peoples politically, economically, and culturally, and to plunder their resources.

    The Iranians say the same. Good article overall though. The Houthis in Yemen aren’t to be messed with either. I always enjoy watching them destroy the Saudis on the battlefield. Heroic dude here:

    • Thanks: antitermite
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    , @Craig Nelsen
    , @Biff
  134. @Franklin Ryckaert

    ‘The “Islamic ideal” is world conquest. Ever heard of the terms dar al-Islam and dar al-harb? Harb means “war”. Taking booty and using female captives as sex slaves in the process is “divinely” sanctioned by the Qur’an. I call this religion a rogue religion for a reason. Whataboutism of Christians in history does not alter that fact.’

    It has been over a thousand years since a united Islam sought to expand the frontiers of Islam. Naturally, there have been empires that happened to be Islamic since then — but they waged war more or less indifferently on Muslim states and infidel ones — just as Christian states since the Middle Ages have waged war more or less indifferently on Christian and infidel states.

    You could as reasonably warn us of the threat posed by modern Mongolia. You’re basically attempting to clothe your paranoid bigotry in a veneer of rationality.

    • Agree: Majority of One, ariadna
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  135. @AaronB

    ‘…The Muslims here do indeed claim that the Muslim conquests were all started in self defense.’

    I’m confident you can’t document that claim.

    • Replies: @Talha
  136. JimmyGee says:
    @Lot

    Lot posted: “They’ll be keeping Shebaa Farms though.”

    Right — Taxi already pointed out that ‘klepto’ tendency.

    A fine piece of writing, Taxi!

    • Thanks: Taxi
    • Replies: @Lot
  137. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    I can confidently claim otherwise. I cannot speak for others, but here are relevant statements I have made in the past on the subject…one must understand the key distinction between the post WW2 framework of international law as it stands today versus the Age of Empires. If one is incapable of making that distinction, then that’s on them.

    Peace.

    [MORE]

    During the Age of Empires – Muslims rolled pretty hard over Byzantium, Persia, Visigoths or anybody else who posed a potential threat as the Muslim lands were expanding. No argument there – no harm no foul – you want to keep an empire, learn to defend it. If you can’t, then pay taxes as the army rolls in – do you know any other pre-modern army that didn’t demand taxes and loyalty when they took a land? Muslims fought better than others for the first thousand years or so (minus some exceptions) then the Europeans and others started beating us down pretty hard and we wuz colonized – such is life when you play the empire game. Seems like Europeans stopped playing the game after they exhausted themselves beating the hell out of each other in WW2.

    Now we have an international framework of non-aggression that all of our top scholars and institutes of sacred learning have accepted as valid and binding upon Muslim countries who are signatory members.

    Apart from that, most Muslim scholars didn’t have a problem with the concept of expanding the borders of Islam’s sovereign domains by conflict. Any kingdom or empire was fair game as long as there was no explicit treaty or covenant of non-aggression between them and the Muslims.

    I mean, now it’s no longer the Age of Empires so those rules are no longer in play since everyone is party to international non-aggression protocols, but I don’t see why we should be embarrassed or apologize for Muslims being really impressive at the game of empires for almost a thousand years any more than the French should feel the need to apologize for Napoleon’s impressive (crushing) victories over the Ottoman and Mamluk armies of Egypt and the Levant.

    The rule in the day was expand or be expanded upon. Which is why immediately after kicking out the Muslims, the Spanish and Portuguese empires unleashed their fearsome navies halfway across the world – what did the Mayans do to them?

    When you live next to the Sassanid and Byzantine Empires, you learn to speak the tongue of sword and spear. And you learn it well or you don’t survive.

    Now, after the butchery of World War II, the nations got together and said – enough! We cannot do this anymore, the stakes are too high. We are talking about the age of international law of which both non-Muslim and Muslim nations are signatory to.

    Later on, once the Muslims had enough military strength, they smashed the Byzantine and Persian Empires. I don’t think there is any need for Muslims to apologize for militarily dismantling the empires of the age. Byzantium and Persia were not NGOs, they were empires that also made no apologies in attacking or expanding their territories when it was militarily expedient.

    In pre-modern times, this was the norm – you either expanded or were expanded upon. If you understand what the Muslim scholars have formulated, then you understand that Islam has rules for the age of empires and for the age of international treaties and regulations – and most Muslim nations are actually abiding by them, they are the ones being invaded and bombed.

    (as Prof. Majid Khadduri mentions in his book “War and Peace in Islam”) the religion explicitly prohibited and condemned the prosecution of war for any worldly purpose and allowed it only to remove obstacles in the spreading of the faith (ie. Byzantine and Persian garrisons).

    As far as Byzantium, it was a really stupid move to allow one of your tribal allies to kill a Muslim ambassador. Maybe they didn’t think much of it or massively underestimated the capabilities of the Arabs. The Shah of Khwarezm made the same stupid mistake in dealing with the Mongol ambassadors. There are some diplomatic mistakes you get to make exactly once and it’ll cost you your empire. As far as Persia, when the people and leadership of Yemen converted and pledged allegiance to Madinah, Persia lost her ancient choke point on the Red Sea and empires don’t take kindly to straps switching sides – they have an image to keep. War was inevitable, it doesn’t even matter who struck first, that’s perfunctory in terms of Late Antiquity.

  138. Druid says:
    @Fran Taubman

    FRAN and LOT! Two zio pos’s cooking in the same pot! Time will tell about your evil experiment in the ME. During the crusades it took the Arabs a long time to wake up, and they were deeply divided, just like today with the likes of traitorous monetary countries. The crusades lasted a total of 200 years. Wait for it, you LOT AND FRANTIC!

  139. Druid says:
    @Alfred

    The Israeli navy is very useful – it kills Gaza’s fishermen! That’s their mandate now 😉

  140. @AaronB

    The tough old Sabras are dead and gone. Their replacements are gamers and mollycoddleniks and close to half of them of the female persuasion. Women do okay as soldiers strictly in all female units. Don’t see that in the IDF, but that’s how it was done by Russia in WWII.

  141. @Lot

    ‘Query: the past 5 years, how many Arabs have Hezbollah killed versus how many Jews? 40,000 versus 5?’

    Well, you learned your lesson in 2006, didn’t you?

  142. JimmyGee says:
    @Iris

    From that book review of Currency Wars, we learn that the Rothschild fortune is estimated to be $2 trillion.

    Makes poor Jeff Bezos look like a piker…

    • Replies: @Iris
  143. Taxi says:
    @ariadna

    Kind words, thank you dear ariadna.

    At least the wounded Lebs know who bombed them. The broke Lebs also know who robbed them. The American gentile collective have yet to figure out who is fleecing them, and who is incessantly throwing mind-bombs at them.

  144. @Taxi

    The history of the “prophet” of Islam, his robberies and his murders, can be found in his Sira (biography) written by a Muslim, and the history of Islam’s violent imperialism is too well known to be “disemboweled”.

    Talking about the Talmud is whataboutism. I have not read the Talmud itself, but often read quotes from it. Many immoral ideas indeed, but not genocide. The incentive to and practice of genocide can be found in the Old Testament (books of Deuteronomy and Joshua).

    I see both Judaism and Islam as rogue religions, no matter how “established” they may have become.

    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @ariadna
  145. MEexpert says:
    @anon

    And your point is? Every Muslim has two things to follow, the Quran and Hadith. Everything that Hezbollah does will be based on Quranic edict, the words of the Prophet, or in the case of Hezbollah, the sayings of the twelve Imams, the rightful successors of the Prophet. They have the Imams as the role models, as opposed to the rest of the world, where the role models are Superman, Spiderman, or the avengers type.

    • Replies: @Vehmic Juryman
  146. @Colin Wright

    I am criticizing Islam as a historical violent imperialistic religion, not saying that at present it is an imperialistic threat.

    However Muslim immigrants in Europe are a problem and these people should be repatriated.

    The behavior of Israel and the US in the Middle East is another matter.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  147. anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The God of Islam (think Father of trinity)

    Sorry sir, I understand that you are simply trying to make a point, but equating the Infinite, the Unseen, “God of Islam” (basically the One and only God of all existence) with the pagan human-like “Father of trinity,” is erroneous.

    There is no equivalent to Allah SWT;

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” : Holy Quran 112

  148. MEexpert says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The Suni’s together with Israel want peace, prosperity and economic opportunity for its people.

    They want to form an unholy union with the US to attack Iran, because neither Israel nor Saudi Arabia, with their might arsenal, has balls to attack Iran alone. They need papa US to protect their backs.

  149. Taxi says:
    @Frankie P

    Thank you, dear Frankie P. Fran does not have dreams, but has plenty of ‘manufactured’ delusions. Comes with the whole ‘chosenism’ bullshit that’s indoctrinated into the minds of jews. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: jews are the most brainwashed people on the planet.

    • Replies: @Black Picard
  150. Lot says:
    @JimmyGee

    You say theft, I say noble and glorious conquest.

    • Replies: @Robjil
  151. @Old jew

    It´s the ancient
    “If the English must give us a country that doesn´t belong to them …
    why not Switzerland I ask you?!”

    Desal, a tunnel from the Med to the Dead Sea and a channel from Aqaba have all been aired, the latter is under construction but neither is a real solution.
    (the tunnel would make the most sense)
    Desal is ridiculously expensive for ag water unless you are a Gulf sheikdom.
    (“Couldn´t de Schloime have put his nebbich temple 500 miles in the East so we sit on the oil and they on the pomerantz?!”)
    And the sheikdoms´clocks are ticking too …
    (there is a promising concept of greenhouse solar destillation-cum-permaculture, but it´s not easy to scale)
    This, incidentally, is also the reason the late Col. Muammar al-Qaddafi had to go:
    Had the Great Man-Made River been finished, Israel could have sat on the pomerantz until they hatched;
    (fossil water like in Israel, borrowed time, 40 years but still … 40 years)

    I do wish things were simple too 😉

  152. @Franklin Ryckaert

    It has to be remembered that a lot of the growth of Islam is not due to conversion, but due to high fertility rates of ethnic groups that practice Islam, a growth that has only been made possible through Western technology and invention.

    The growth of rogue humans has as a result, resulted in this cult becoming the largest cult in the world.

  153. Iris says:
    @JimmyGee

    Please read carefully the book review if you really are interested.

    $2 trillions was a 2006 low estimate of the aggregated Rothschild family fortune. When the book was published, there officially existed no billionaire. And if you were keen enough, you would also have understood by now than billionaire “genius businessmen”, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Buffet, Gates, are just but frontmen for the financial cartels.

  154. Iris says:
    @redmudhooch

    This is false, and even Hassan Nasrallah has said this is false. Israel is only a US tool.

    Nasrallah speaks carefully because he knows what happened to Ahmadinejad, who was less political, and called a spade and spade, giving the Zionists the fit-by-design opportunity to label him “Anti-Semite” and plunging Iran in a media tsunami of opprobrium, giving pretext to more international sanctions.

    One should indeed not conflate Jews with Zionists, which is precisely what Zionists do, so they can vindicate as racist any criticism of their relentless criminal activities.
    But please, don’t promote the well-worn canard that Israel only does the deeds of the USA. Remember Mearsheimer and all that? If that were true, Donald Trump wouldn’t have lost the US election to a Zionist globalist expansionist coalition.

    • Replies: @Taxi
  155. Smith says:

    That is one weird ass homepage, Mr. Unz

    • LOL: Taxi
  156. Taxi says:

    In the spirit of supporting the great Ron Unz’s heroic endeavors to keep the First Amendment alive on his blogzine, allow me please to share a comment that I published on my own blog two days ago:

    I direct this comment at the American intelligentsia. Do you even fucking exist outside of your petty and pitiful identitarian domain?! Grow some fucking brainballs and step outside of your silly twat box already! There’s a painful intellectual anorexia sweeping right across from coast to coast, just as there is in the belly and groin of middle America – and what in dickduck’s name are you doing about it? Knowing about it? Saying about it? It’s an American tragedy that you’ve allowed an intellectually vacuous mouthpiece-media to be anointed and considered as intelligentsia, when they are nothing more than warmongering whores for fame and fortune, turning tricks for those nasty old hooded pimps everyone calls the Israel Lobby and the Military Industrial Complex. A whacky mix of excessively groomed bimbos, bimbas and pompous pseuds is exactly what America’s media is. There is no intelligentsia in media. And there is no all-embracing, all-encompassing, all-inclusive visionary of overall America in American intelligentsia either. This is because American intelligentsia envies all them media puppet over-earners with mega fanclubs and followers and would like a piece of that squidgy-hugzy-yummzy pie too. Envy is always all-consuming and distracting and this distraction is thus creating a vacuum of intelligence and lowering the standards inside of America’s smartassy pond; creating a blindspot in America’s intellectual drive and direction. It was so idiotic of America’s intelligentsia to self-box in identitarianism and sellout to lucrative media. They really didn’t have to, just to fit in with the frigging jews who own America’s publishing houses. Intelligentsia is not supposed to fit it! They’re supposed have transcended this common level of peer-approval and desire for common popularity. Like a magpie, America’s intelligentsia was evidently seduced by the stupid-sparkling. Not the substance. Not the collective soul. Not the mind soar.

    If anything, America’s intelligentsia should be cancelled by its own pet-love ‘the cancel culture’. America’s failed intelligentsia has become part and parcel of the fully repellent and narcissistic celebrity-culture responsible for making an already stupid people even more stupid.

    R.I.P. American vocational discourse. R.I.P. American thought-innovation. R.I.P. American intelligentsia.
    https://platosguns.com/2020/11/24/hezbollah-the-beautiful/#comment-30728

    • Replies: @magnumtd
  157. @redmudhooch

    Just say capitalism dude, good grief. The bogus culture and race war distractions are just a disguise for the real class war.

    Right, we’re all afraid to finger the capitalists and that’s why they operate with such impunity and directly against our interests. Everyone knows what can happen to your career if an anti-capitalism comment you made twenty years ago comes to light. And let’s not forget in Europe, it is illegal to criticize capitalism. Europeans are sent to prison, in fact, for criticizing capitalism, even if the criticism is accurate. And in this country, well, remember when Mel Gibson got drunk and started ranting about how the capitalists control Hollywood? Even though what he said was true, they do, Mel was on national TV, still hungover, begging forgiveness for “insulting” the capitalists (that’s how depraved capitalists are–they enjoy watching such things).

    And that’s how you can be sure that the real war is the class war.

  158. Taxi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    My dear, genocide of everything non-jewish is at the very core and heart of the talmud. In other words, followers of the talmud are instructed to go forth and genocide all gentile people, their cities, their animals and their ‘gods’. You say you haven’t read it, so then just be the fuck quiet about it!

    And you gotta also quit it with your stupid islmophobia. Mohammad never called himself a ‘prophet’ – he called himself a ‘messenger’. Big difference, right?! And if you think I’m going to take your word or some dubious book and book-writer you’re promoting, think again. I don’t eat from plates placed on the table by dirty hands.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  159. Taxi says:
    @Iris

    I see it like this, Iris: zionism is but a fig leaf that badly behaved jews hide behind. Zionism is in fact political talmudism. Zionism is an (abhorrent) ideology. The evil founders of the ideology themselves need attacking above their invented ideology. The rage should be directed first and foremost at the inventors and not at the intangible, inane or abstract that they’ve created. There is no distinguishing marks between jews and their zionism as far as I’m concerned.

    I don’t give a ratsarse to be called an antishmanti wotever. I say it how I see it. Jews invented the ideology of zionism and 99.9% of jews agree with zionism (so I’m told by my ex-jew friends). Here I define a zionist as a supporter of the establishment of israel in Historic Palestine as first step towards world talmudization, therefore I will critique the fucking jews themselves till kingdom come. Going after only ‘zionism’ is like fighting evil with one hand self-tied behind back. One has to attack the creator of evil above all else. If one only ever attacks the evil act and leaves the actual doer of evil alone, then the world will end up forever in infinite hell.

  160. @Franklin Ryckaert

    More like IQ of 65 than 85 of the “modern” Arabs… remember, that camel jockey had no geniuses in the family.

  161. ariadna says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “I see both Judaism and Islam as rogue religions, no matter how “established” they may have become.”
    Whatever you think “rogue” means, it is curious that your burning animus against Islam prevents you from seeing that Iran — a nation adhering to a “rogue cult” in your view– has not waged a war of aggression in more than 200 years yet is being threatened with annihilation by a truly rogue state operating outside of all international laws. Not including Christianity in your basket of “rogue” religions and blaming Islam for the Soros et al. funding and organizing of the invasion of Europe with “refugees” in the Great Replacement scheme is meant to present you as a defender of the Western Christian world from the “Islam menace”?
    You need too refine your presentation.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  162. Robjil says:
    @Lot

    You say theft, I say noble and glorious conquest.

    It wasn’t only the Middle East that was conquested in those six days. A faraway land called the USA was also conquested in those six days. In the Torah, Yahweh created the world in six days. Thus, the Israelis did something like Yahweh in six days. They took over the entire world in those six days by taking the USA. Since, the Israel Golem USA “thinks” it rules the world with its 800 bases all over the world

    https://www.usslibertyveterans.org/

    ON JUNE 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel. Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action. The ship itself, a Forty Million ($40,000,000) Dollar state of the art signals intelligence (SIGINT) platform, was so badly damaged that it never sailed on an operational mission again and was sold in 1970 for $101,666.66 as scrap.

    Look at the numbers at the end of this sale. All sixes to “celebrate” the six days that Israel took over the world.

  163. ariadna says:
    @Handydan

    I live in a far away country, on another continent, thankfully largely ignored by USrael. Yet they demanded a Holocaust memorial be built. Made as much sense to the local culture as building a memorial to the Eskimos.
    The municipality in the capital hemmed and hawed and since, they said, the city itself was chockfull and no space was available, we’ll build one on the beach… So an Israeli artist installed some very ugly sharp boulders on the shore, not on a beach where people go to sun themselves. The monument is often visited by dogs out for their constitutional and paid proper respect to in canine fashion and occasionally by the Israeli ambassador and local dignitaries on appointed days.

    • LOL: Taxi
  164. Ram says:

    Whatever happened to the Amal militia ?

    • Replies: @Taxi
  165. Evidently there has been a strategy shift by The Blob from attempting to get me to join a Russian dissident group to joining Hezbollah in their efforts to demonize and discredit me. I would have to call Elliot Abrams, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, or DHS if it was my intention to join Hezbollah, since I do not have any Hezbollah contacts, and those government organizations all frequently attempt to incite people to commit terrorist acts through incitement, encouragement and bribery which they then use to imprison those individuals. They will probably move on to trying to get me to join the Sandanistas next week, which I will not join either. They have the goal of taking me for a ride and making me pay through the nose, obviously! 

    Andrea Iravani

  166. @Taxi

    Taxi commented: “I too have been following the super cool Linh Dinh’s eyewitness reports. Fantastic cocktail of word and picture and tickle of funnybone.”

    Very brave, open to adventures & humor, Linh Dinh is the closest thing Americans have to get first hand information from volatile & dangerous places.

    Here is what my friend, a retired NYPD detective said (to me), about Linh Dinh’s incredible work: “He needs to be careful. You don’t need to get up close in order to get good information.”
    Fyi, Linh met him at a Thanksgiving dinner, at my good friend’s Scranton home. Is close to Zio Biden’s family house.

    Thanks so much, Taxi, for the consistent & brave work you do.

    • Thanks: Taxi
  167. Taxi says:
    @Ram

    They’re still around. Big allies of the Hezb on the battlefield and in the Leb parliament.

  168. Rich says:
    @duplicitousdemocracy

    NATO has for many years had tactical nuclear weapons which could be used at close quarters, near allied troops or populations. If seriously threatened I have no doubt the Israelis, or anyone else with the capability, would use nukes to defend themselves or their interests. The Israelis have seen the fates of other nations conquered by fanatical Muslims and I’m sure would do whatever was necessary to avoid defeat.

    I never tried to put a tank on a trailer, I was in the Signal Corps in the US Army.

  169. @Taxi

    “…followers of the talmud are instructed to go forth and genocide all gentile people, their cities, their animals and their ‘gods’. You say you haven’t read it, so then just be the fuck quiet about it…”

    If you have read the Talmud then show me some quotes from it where it instructs its followers to “genocide all gentile people”. I have read much criticism of the Talmud, but genocide of gentiles is never mentioned.

    The biography of Muhammad called Sirat Rasul Allah, written by Ibn Ishaq (d.767), reworked by Ibn Hisham (d. 833), is generally considered as authoritative by Muslims. In it are described Muhammad’s actions, his robberies, his wars and his murders of his enemies and mockers. He was a typical criminal warlord who concocted a bandit sect that unfortunately grew into a world religion. A kind of Arab Charles Manson, but more successful. If saying this makes me an “Islamophobe” then I am proud of it.

    Salaam.

  170. Iris says:

    Some may consider this out of topic, but I don’t think it is.

    Diego Armando Maradona, arguably the greatest footballer of all times, has passed away yesterday in his native Argentina.

    A Latin American, far remote from the Middle East, he was a passionate supporter of the Palestinian people. Here he is at the 2018 Russian World Cup telling Mahmoud Abbas:

    In my heart, I am Palestinian

    The Palestinian cause, so heroically supported by the Hezbollah Braves, is a universal cause. central to humankind.

    It embodies the human fight against oppression, injustice and genocide, a universal fight for ethical and civilisational values. For this, people all across the globe, like Maradona, support and cherish the Palestinian cause and will never cease to do so. RIP in God’s blessing.

    • Replies: @Talha
  171. @ariadna

    I call the religions of Islam and Judaism “rogue religions”, but that does not mean that all Muslims or all Jews (not even all Israelis) are rogues.

    Iran has not been aggressive for 200 years. True, it is not aggressive today either, but it makes the stupid and wholly unnecessary mistake of aggressive anti-Israel rhetoric, which is taken seriously by the paranoid Israelis. They could easily avoid being targeted by Israel by stopping said rhetoric.

    • Replies: @ariadna
  172. @Iris

    There exist a 2006 Chinese best-selling book, by academic Hong SongBing, which explores and describes very well how the London-based Hebraic banking dynasties relentlessly conspired and intrigued over three centuries to control America’s political process.

    Entitled “Currency Wars”, the book was a huge success, sold hundred of thousands copies and was reportedly read by leading decision-makers in China. It has been translated to many Asian and European languages, but significantly never to English.

    The core topic of the book is nevertheless the USA: the author describes how three centuries of conspiracies and intrigues, including the murder or hushed up murder of several US Presidents, were carried out to ensure that control of America’s (((Central Bank))), the Federal Reserve, would be put into private hands.

    A revolutionary book from China, where it became a bestseller and is hushed up in Europe for (un)known reasons

    https://gefira.org/en/2019/09/24/song-hongbings-currency-wars-a-review

    Thanks for sharing this reference. Never heard of Song Hongbing but the content of his book (which the link you presented summarizes) is, albeit lesser or unknown, accurate. I would only argue that the Rothschild are more of a facade, and if not one of the leading families put as front, to keep other older and wealthier jewish families in the shadow.

    That said, I wonder if the author is aware that the same Jewish bankers in England destroyed China under their guy Mao to halt the country’s development (the USA was made the superpower) and also have backed China’s development (under US officials and Deng Xiaoping) to make it the next superpower (while destroying the USA). If I recall right, you had reservations about Voltairenet but some articles there present information worth looking into; namely that the bankers in question (City of London) have backed the Chinese Yuan since 1913 (coincidentally the same year they created the US Fed):

    World yuan-ization thanks to the City of London
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article189193.html

    The yuan will be the third most powerful currency in the IMF basket
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article189604.html

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Malla
  173. Talha says:
    @Iris

    Some clarifications for those that are interested…

    The biography of Muhammad called Sirat Rasul Allah, written by Ibn Ishaq (d.767), reworked by Ibn Hisham (d. 833), is generally considered as authoritative by Muslims.

    It is the most authoritative book in Seerah or Maghazi literature. Which is not saying much. It is full of everything from authentic reports to weak reports to fabricated reports. No school of Islamic jurisprudence – NONE, WITHOUT EXCEPTION – relies on the Seerah literature to derive any rulings because of it unreliability.

    The simple fact of the matter is (as was confirmed to me by an expert in hadith) that whatever is actually authentic in the book is already found with verified chains of narrations in actual authentic hadith collections. You could burn all the copies of the book and it wouldn’t make a whiff of difference to anything rulings or practice of the Muslims.

    his robberies

    Raids against enemies who started the conflict and wouldn’t quit even after having kicked him out of his town of Makkah:
    “The pagans of the Quraysh wrote (a letter) to Ibn Ubayy and to those who worshipped idols from al-Aws and al-Khazraj, while the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) was at that time at Medina before the battle of Badr. (They wrote): ‘You gave protection to our companion. We swear by Allah, you should fight him or expel him, or we shall come to you in full force, until we kill your fighters and appropriate your women.’” – reported in Abu Dawud (an authentic collection)

    The excellent book ‘Armies of Muslim Conquest’ by Prof. David Nicolle has the very first sentence under the chapter called “The Prophet’s First Warriors” as:
    “Arabian warfare was based on different principles from that of their larger neighbors, razzia raiding being the most common tactic.”

    The Quraysh and their allies should have known (being Arabs themselves) that they were opening up their caravans to the most common military form of commerce interdiction (an extension of siege warfare) of the age and region. If they didn’t prepare better, that’s on them.

    his wars

    Yup. He was a brilliant tactician; starting with a small number of followers who were sent into exile until finally defeating the rival capital city in the most famous civil war of the Hijaz. Not surprising; the minute the pagans had declared war on him and his community, it was obvious which way things were going to play out in the end, God was not about to let His final Messenger. Finally uniting all of the Arabian peninsula (an unprecedented feat) and having prepared and trained his people to embark upon the complete defeat of neighboring empires that had been around for centuries. (pbuh) be defeated by a bunch of pagan Arabs.

    and his murders of his enemies

    Killing of enemies in war is not murder.

    and mockers.

    He actually forgave those that insulted him on a personal level. Others who, along with mocking, riled up or incited the enemies of the Muslim community to war were eliminated as a threat for obvious reasons. Riling up someone’s enemies in the middle of a hot war is a great way to draw attention to oneself. This is what is found in the actual authentic collections of hadith from which rulings are derived.

    world religion

    Yup.

    Islamophobe

    The religion about to become the faith of 1/3 of mankind doesn’t need to justify itself to people who hate it. It doesn’t have to care anymore than a corporation that has 1/3 of the entire market share on any product; it’s doing just fine, product sells itself. That’s basically how a world religion is defined.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Colin Wright
  174. Talha says:
    @Talha

    Very sorry @Iris (wrong click on my part), this was not addressed to anyone, this was just a general clarification of the traditional Muslim outlook on some statements that were made.

    Happy Thanksgiving to you and others!

  175. @Z-man

    Keep in mind that the image is most likely supposed to represent a Japanese female.

    Anime is erasing (has erased) Japanese features.

  176. @Franklin Ryckaert

    ‘I am criticizing Islam as a historical violent imperialistic religion…’

    As opposed to Christianity?

    How do you think the Saxons, for example, became Christian? Charlemagne preached a brilliant sermon? Much of Europe and all of North and South America was converted by the sword. I really don’t see how you can meaningfully distinguish between the actual behavior of Islam and Christianity…or actually, you can, but if tolerance is the desideratum, then the distinction is not in Christianity’s favor.

    Look: actually, I prefer Christianity, all things considered. Me ‘n Islam are going to part company in about three hours, when I crack that first bottle of delicious Illahe Viognier. However, I have no patience for those who try to somehow make Islam morally inferior to other faiths, when it obviously is not.

    • Agree: ariadna
  177. @Talha

    ‘“Arabian warfare was based on different principles from that of their larger neighbors, razzia raiding being the most common tactic.”

    It’s worth noting that this would seem to have been more or less the norm in any society that isn’t densely settled.

    Comparisons that readily come to mind: Highland Scots, Scottish Borderers, the Indians of much of North and South America, and the ordinary norm of behavior in Europe in the earlier part of the Middle Ages.

    • Replies: @Talha
  178. @Colin Wright

    There is a difference between the tenets of a religion and the actual behavior of its followers. In the history of Christianity there have indeed been violent episodes, but those were not in accordance with its teachings or the example of its founder. In Islam both its tenets (jihad) and the behavior of its founder entail violence. The behavior of the terrorist group ISIS is actually how Muhammad and his followers behaved. Jesus did not wage war, robbed caravans, raped women or murdered his critics. Muhammad did. That is the difference between Christianity and Islam.

    • Replies: @Metropole
    , @Colin Wright
  179. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Correct. You cannot pull sieges on people who barely have cities.

    the Indians of much of North and South America

    I remember recently reading about the Comanche Empire – an incredible history. One of the common threads among so many of these various people was excellence in archery and horse riding:

    The Arabs prized their horses (some would memorize the lineage of their horse and know it as well as their own lineage) and that breed is one of the heartiest of all breeds, even being distinguished from other horses by one less vertebrae than other breeds. And it certainly played a significant factor in the rapid movement of the Muslim armies as they often outmaneuvered their more bulky foes.

    the ordinary norm of behavior in Europe in the earlier part of the Middle Ages.

    And well into the 18th century and beyond. Interdicting commerce (like the capture of caravans) is a normal part of warfare; you deny the enemy economic activity in order to break down his ability to fund his military.

    US military itself is illustrative in this regard. During WW2, US submarines would torpedo any merchant ships coming out of Japanese harbors. Scores were kept on tonnage sunk. Was the ship carrying weapons or rice or toys? It didn’t matter; if it left the harbor, it was sunk.

    Prior to that, there was the practice of privateering in the great age of sailing.
    “European governments regularly issued documents known as Letters of Marque and Reprisal to legitimize privately outfitted men-of-war. In a tradition dating back to the Middle Ages, under highly regulated conditions, these documents authorized private parties to attack enemy vessels. Without the documentation, these same activities were considered acts of piracy and subject to prosecution. If a privateer captured an enemy ship (known as a prize), an admiralty prize court had to approve the seizure. Then, the proceeds from the sale of the prize and its cargo were shared among the owners and crew of the privateer according to a pre-arranged contract.…A Privateer Commission was issued to vessels, called privateers or cruisers, whose primary objective was to disrupt enemy shipping. The ideal target was an unarmed, or lightly armed, commercial ship….the overall effort to cripple Britain’s commercial fleet was highly effective, and fortunes destined to finance the new republic were made. It is estimated that the total damage to British shipping by American privateers was about $18 million by the end of the war, or just over $302 million in today’s dollars.”
    https://www.nps.gov/revwar/about_the_revolution/privateers.html

    “Privately owned merchant ships that, in wartime, were armed by their owners and licensed by the government to attack the maritime trade of the enemy, privateers profited by the sale of ships and cargoes they captured. As soon as word of the war arrived, ship owners in the port cities up and down the Atlantic coast raced to get their sleek sloops and schooners to sea in their new predatory role….With their licenses—which would make their captures lawful, not piratical, prizes—and their ships manned and outfitted for war, privateers began to stream out of American ports in July 1812.“
    https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2014/march/yes-privateers-mattered

    In most of military history; the only real difference between piracy or raiding and lawful economic interdiction has been a declaration of war and the official green-light by a head of state (or whatever equivalent form of government).

    This is not novel to anybody that has reasonably engaged with literature of the military history genre.

    Peace.

  180. Metropole says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    There is a difference between the tenets of a religion and the actual behavior of its followers. In the history of Christianity there have indeed been violent episodes, but those were not in accordance with its teachings or the example of its founder. In Islam both its tenets (jihad) and the behavior of its founder entail violence. The behavior of the terrorist group ISIS is actually how Muhammad and his followers behaved. Jesus did not wage war, robbed caravans, raped women or murdered his critics. Muhammad did. That is the difference between Christianity and Islam.

    I don’t particularly like to criticize Christianity, as a cousin religion, but something like the above statement is so wrong that it requires an answer.

    Unlike the Quran, the Bible is full of orders to commit genocide. It is impossible for me to determine that that is what God really ordered Moses. If he did then I accept it since I believe in God and Moses. This is what the Bible says, and there are lots of other stories of the Israelites laying waste to the cities they conquered, killing man, woman, child, and animal before burning the city.

    Numbers 31

    They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man. 8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest and the Israelite assembly at their camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho.

    13 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

    15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

    Here are the crusaders for you:

    A chronicler, Radulph of Caen in his contemporaneous account, Gesta Tancredi wrote, “Some people said that, constrained by the lack of food, they boiled pagan adults in cooking-pots, impaled children on spits and devoured them grilled.” These events were also chronicled by Fulcher of Chartres, who wrote:

    I shudder to tell that many of our people, harassed by the madness of excessive hunger, cut pieces from the buttocks of the Saracens (Muslims) already dead there, which they cooked, but when it was not yet roasted enough by the fire, they devoured it with savage mouth.

    Coming to contemporary times we have 20-30 million dead Muslims, men, women and children, killed in their own countries, but it is the Muslims that are violent.

    So please, before saying things like that, forget the Talmud, read the Bible and read history and the latest news. I’m not saying that Muslims are angels and Christians are not, but it is high hypocrisy to declare one to be all guilty and one all innocent.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    , @Rich
  181. @Franklin Ryckaert

    ‘There is a difference between the tenets of a religion and the actual behavior of its followers. In the history of Christianity there have indeed been violent episodes, but those were not in accordance with its teachings or the example of its founder…’

    On the other hand, however elevated the principles of the persecutor, what tends to matter to the victim is what is actually done to him. I doubt if Poles shot by the Russians at Katyn as opposed to gassed by the Germans at Auschwitz actually appreciated the distinction that the former was supposedly done to bring on the universal socialist millennium whist the latter was merely done to advance the cause of Germandom.

    That said, when it was possible to make direct comparisons, the behavior of Christians was often as or more bestial than that of Muslims.

    Moreover, if you want to point to the pacific strictures of Christianity, the Muslims can point to their mandates of tolerance, so I really don’t see the superiority of Christianity in any objective sense, either in theory or in practice.

    Finally, I’ll note that Islam explicitly accepts much of the teaching of Christianity — Jesus is, after all, a prophet. It has always seemed to me that in principle, Islam occupies a position with respect to Christianity not all that distinct from that of the Mormons. There are differences, of course, but both largely posit one more prophet after Jesus. Interestingly, both also tend towards a kind of detailed prescription for social harmony, etc.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Robjil
  182. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    if you want to point to the pacific strictures of Christianity

    In a practical sense NOBODY follows these except for maybe the Amish. When Christian countries start to disarm their navies and armies, maybe this will be taken seriously.

    I’ll note that Islam explicitly accepts much of the teaching of Christianity — Jesus is, after all, a prophet.

    Indeed – and a big one. The Son of Mary (pbuh) was a great prophet, but he lived out a partial mission. He never had a family or raised children and never ran even a small city where he had to deal with issues of legal justice nor was he in the position to defend his community from attack. Pacifism was out of necessity for the context in which he found himself and his community; trying to take on the Roman state would have resulted in a swift elimination of his followers with extreme prejudice.

    The better way to compare the two is to look at how the Son of Mary (pbuh) acted in the first part of his mission as compared to the Prophet (pbuh) in Makkah – when he was also leading a small group of followers in a city full of hostile pagans. When the Son of Mary (pbuh) comes for his Madinan stage…well, he means business and it going to be quite different. He is described in Revelations; a king atop a steed, with a sword coming out of his mouth and blood-spattered clothing:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Moi
  183. ariadna says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “[Iran] is not aggressive today either, but it makes the stupid and wholly unnecessary mistake of aggressive anti-Israel rhetoric, which is taken seriously by the paranoid Israelis. They could easily avoid being targeted by Israel by stopping said rhetoric.”

    Of course! It’s the “aggressive rhetoric” of the Iranians that sets off the Jews. If only the Iranians would talk nicely, I bet Israel would stop bombing and sabotaging their installations and assassinating their scientists.
    I really don’t know why I didn’t connect the dots:
    • Jews are said to possess superior verbal aptitude.
    • It follows that they have high sensitivity to semantics (just look at the luminaries they produced, like Chomsky). Words that do not break the bones of others are sticks and stones to them.
    • This explains why they so ferociously attack those who misuse, take in vain or show disrespect to sacred words, like “Holocaust” In all European countries where the ‘rhetoric” criminals are jailed. In the US they only destroy their careers because of the annoying First Amendment, enfeebled but still extant.
    It makes sense now, thank you. For the sake of peace you need to reach the Iranian leadership and say :”It’s the words, stupid.” Also, ask them to pass it along to all of Israel’s neighbors whom Israel attacked and from whom they stole land, which of course includes Lebanon, all semantic felons.

  184. @ariadna

    There is no reason why high (verbal) intelligence could not be combined with paranoia. The Jews are a living example of that. The Iranian leadership keeps on making declarations that Israel should be destroyed. The Israelis take such threats seriously. Combined with Iran’s ambition to develop nuclear energy (which they don’t really need as an oilproducing nation), they fear that Iran will develop nuclear bombs and then fulfill their wish of destroying them. Call that irrational paranoia or not, but that is what motivates Israel’s anti-Iran stand. The situation could easily be avoided if Iran would simply refrain from making anti-Israel statements. Same with “noble” Hezbollah, that also keeps on stating that Israel should be destroyed.

    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @anon
    , @Iris
  185. @Metropole

    It is not the Old Testament that is a moral guide for Christians but the New Testament. You cannot blame Christians for the crimes described in the Old Testament.

    The Crusaders were a bunch of primitive fanatics, only recently emerged from pagan barbary. Their crimes were not a form of “practicing Christianity”.

    I don’t know where you have that number of 20 to 30 million dead Muslims from. If you refer to the post-9/11 wars on Muslim countries, the number is closer to a tenth of that. That is still bad enough. The fraudulent “global war on terror” is not an expression of Christianity, but a combination of Jewish intrigue and (secular) American imperialism.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  186. sarz says:
    @Pat Kittle

    Freedom of speech includes being able to mock you and anything you believe in.

    I think you are seriously confused. And it’s not just you and Macron. It’s more or less the whole West and, worldwide, the captives of the West’s media.

    The people of any traditional society in world history took it for granted that certain speech and expressive acts in general could be highly disruptive and offensive, and such acts were simply not allowed, under norms of politeness, as well as for religious and social reasons under law. Speech (in the broader sense of all expressive acts) was not free, and this was deemed to be a good thing.

    The case of Galileo, for example, brought up a certain class of speech acts in the case of which freedom seemed to be justifiable, in terms of such freedom being an avenue to the possible discovery of truth. It is this narrow body of speech scts that rationally ask to not be fettered. This requirement can be fulfilled by allowing speech on any topic so long as it is at a low temperature and involves the presentation of reasons snd evidence.

    A right, as such, to freedom of speech has to do with matters of custom, morality and law. Such a right being something that should be conceded by others has to do with its justification, with the ends it promotes, primarily the discovery of truth.

    Some diabolical current has taken great trouble over the last half century to conflate freedom of speech, which can be considered a rational right in its very limited sense, with freedom of expression. There is no such rational right, to mockery, to obscenity, to profanity, to waving one’s penis in public.

    You have the US Supreme Court, at its Judaic extreme, decreeing that spending money on buying political influence is justified because it is after all a form of speech. And, similarly, every child can in one second access hardcore pornography on a phone. None of this makes sense. It is only possible by conflating expression with speech, and all forms of speech with the the core minimum of declarative, polite utterance that must be allowed as an instrument for the discovery of truth.

    You had asked Kevin for an answer. I suspect he agrees with me.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  187. @ariadna

    I wonder why all the ¿jewish (probably yiddish) words I know are either insults, aggressive & /or related to immoral conduct:
    Schmuck
    Schlomo
    Meshuggeh
    Shiksa
    Chutzpah
    They are even harsh on the tongue, as if one is expectorating whilst uttering them.

    By contrast, words in Persian / Farsi sound like poetry & music.

  188. Taxi quote from her above article: Steeped in a culture of martyrdom that’s inspired by the prophet Mohammad’s grandson Hussein and his agonizing martyrdom, a passion-cause and agony that’s parallel to the martyrdom culture of the Christian prophet Jesus, Hezbollah’s warriors are beyond the corruption of soul.

    Salam Taxi,

    Excellent article as usual. Many thanks. I would like for you to elaborate more on the, “prophet Mohammad’s grandson Hussein and his agonizing martyrdom”

    All Muslims believe that Hussein is the leader of the youth in heaven. What did Hussein do to earn such a high honor from the Prophet and Allah, as Muslims consider Prophet’s words are Allah’s words?

    Unless the prophet is into nepotism, than why would fifty years later from the death of the Prophet, Muslims themselves violently mascaraed the whole male family of the Prophet including a six month old child, and paraded the female family with shackles and without hijab in the bazaars of Syria.

    If Islam is not violent, why would the Muslims commit war crimes, genocide, savagery against the Prophet’s family which consisted less then 100 males by a Muslim army of 10,000 soldiers?

    What did the Prophet’s family do to earn such a violent ending?

    Best regards,

    Mohamed

  189. @Larchmonter420

    “…If Islam is not violent, why would the Muslims commit war crimes, genocide, savagery against the Prophet’s family which consisted less then 100 males by a Muslim army of 10,000 soldiers..?

    So what is your honest answer to that “if Islam is not violent…” question?

    • Replies: @Larchmonter420
  190. @Larchmonter420

    “…What did the Prophet’s family do to earn such a violent ending..?”

    List of Killings Ordered or Supported by Muhammad – Wikiislam

    wikiislam.net>wiki>List_of_Killi…

    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @anon
  191. @anonymous

    Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” : Holy Quran 112

    Salam brother,

    The above is the worst translation of the complete Sura (Chapter) 112 of the Holy Quran. The Holy Quran is only in Arabic language, and any translations are transliterations and not the Actual Holy Quran. Almost all the translations are over 100 years old and they are plagiarized from one another.

    Below is my own translation in English of the complete Sura 112:

    Though two things must be kept in mind:

    1. Allah is not the name of the God. Ilah/Eloh means, “God” and the “Al” means, “The”. So combined al ilah (allah) means, The God. It is the Wahhabis who insist that Allah is the name of the God.

    2. Nowhere, in the complete chapter the word, “Wahid” is used which means “One”. The word which is used is “Ahd” and it is the same word used in Shema Ya’Israel. What does “Ahd” mean? It means a Complete Unit, which cannot be divided, thus making it one third, “like God is one but each one is a third”. Nor it can be multiplied, thus making it three, “like God is one but it is three separate personas.

    So, here is my translation:

    The Sura is called, “Sincerity”:
    112:1 Say, “He is God, One Complete Unit (indivisible and/or multiplied).
    112:2 God, the Eternal and Sustainer of all.
    112:3 He has no offspring, nor was He born (created).
    114:4 And there is none comparable to Him, the Complete One Unit.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed

  192. ariadna says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “The Iranian leadership keeps on making declarations that Israel should be destroyed.”

    False. Iran responds verbally to Israel’s unrelenting threats of turning it into “a glass parking lot,” convincingly combined with actual attacks.

    “Iran’s ambition to develop nuclear energy (which they don’t really need as an oilproducing nation”

    Who appointed Israel — a rogue nuclear power — as the supreme judge of what other nations need? Why does Israel need a nuclear arsenal?

    “they fear that Iran will develop nuclear bombs and then fulfill their wish of destroying them. Call that irrational paranoia or not, but that is what motivates Israel’s anti-Iran stand.”

    So in your view the rational response to what you claim is Israel’s irrational paranoia is to indulge it at all costs?!?
    I would say that Israel claims are only the rhetoric of paranoia of fear of Iran. The reality of its paranoia, a Jewish collective psychosis, is of another stripe: its demented messianic supremacist goal, which it pursues with obdurate and meticulous planning and execution.

    ” The situation could easily be avoided if Iran would simply refrain from making anti-Israel statements.”

    Stop embarrassing yourself by repeating this laughable assertion.

    “Same with “noble” Hezbollah, that also keeps on stating that Israel should be destroyed.”
    That is entirely different. The tense —“should”— expresses desirability, even necessity, and in that sentiment Hezbollah is far from being alone in the world. Israel as a state, not its inhabitants. States come and go. Nothing sacred about any of them ever.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Franklin Ryckaert
  193. Isadoro says:

    Good Day, Gentlemen,
    Good Day Taxi,
    I fully agree to the virtues you enumerated concerning the Hezb Warriors.
    Though I have one comment: there are war warriors and peace warriors.
    The Hezb’s warriors are of the former category, until they elevate themselves to Peace Warriors.
    It is certain that had there been no Resistance, Lebanon would have been lost since long.
    However, let us keep in mind that the Hezb, though a main component of the resistance, The Resistance is The Lebanese People, not the Hezb or its ally Amal. Eventually, The Lebanese People Resistance is the culture of Imam Moussa Sadr, disappeared in obscure circumstances.
    You talk about the Beauty of the Hezb.
    I would have better seen the Beauty of the Hezb’s Warriors.
    Why?
    Because I will talk shortly about the Ugliness of the Hezb irrespective of how Beautiful Its Warriors.
    Ever since I started being interested in geopolitics, I learned from the Hezb to ask this critical question: to whom benefits the crime?
    So, the question is: to whom benefited the disappearance of Imam Moussa Sadr?
    Furthermore, you may ask any Lebanese about the Parliament Speaker and his Party Amal, principal ally of the Hezb, unanimously the answer would be that he is the Mafioso who together with his family and party have stolen the Lebanese People. Of course, they will name the 6 parties sitting in the parliament and taking all Lebanese as hostages.
    This would prompt us to reflect on Allah’s and the Quran’s teachings.
    Also, it is clear while analyzing the election law of 2018 and its results, that the 6 parties sitting in the parliament and taking all Lebanese as hostages have devised a law that prevents access to the parliament (by anyone other than those 6 parties) and consolidates the holdup of the state.
    I will not comment right now on warriors, battles and the bombing of Beirut’s port!
    Have a Great Day

    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @Iris
  194. KA says:
    @Metropole

    1-https://scholarship.law.unc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=3823&context=nclr

    2-“It is beyond the scope of this article to consider specific legal principles in detail but let’s at least mention at a few hypothesized to have come into English common law from the Muslim world. Briefly, they are: the right not to testify to incriminate oneself; the outlaw of use of hearsay as evidence in trials; every person’s right to trial by jury; the weight of a spoken or written contract as right to possession or transfer of property (rather than actual physical possession as sole proof of title to land, a horse, etc.); the possession of property constituting a form of ownership; the equality and consistency of laws in their application throughout a country; Ranulf Glanville’s medieval definition of a valid contract based on agreement and consideration.

    Other English institutions possibly influenced by Islamic law include the Inns of Court and perpetual endowment.

    A considerable improvement over trial by ordeal.”

    ttp://www.bestofsicily.com/mag/art283.htm-“- Manlio Lima

    • Thanks: Metropole
  195. KA says:
    @anon

    1 In October, the British besieged Peking. When the city fell, British commander Lord Elgin, ordered the temples in the city sacked and burned to the ground as a show of comtempt. In the new “Peace Treaty” of October 25, 1860, t https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/sassoon.htm

    2 Akbarabadi Mosque of Delhi was destroyed by British in 1857

    3 English aristocrats delighted in the…., but the Turks and Moroccans were ……
    Elizabeth stripped the metal from deconsecrated Catholic churches and melted their bells to make munitions that were then shipped out to Turkey, proving that shady Western arms sales go back much further than the Iran-contra affair. The queen encouraged similar deals with Morocco, selling weapons and buying saltpeter, the essential ingredient in gunpowder, and sugar, heralding a lasting craving and turning Elizabeth’s own teeth an infamous black.— https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/opinion/sunday/englands-forgotten-muslim-history.html

    Then European taught India from 1857 how Muslims had destroyed millions of temples ( a total lie ) and created an enduring sectarian problem over Babri -Ram – Mosque -Temple by claiming that temple was destroyed by invading Babur juts after they had destroyed few mosques in Delhi it self in 1857. English also taught the concept of desecration of temple to India after first desecrating the Friday Mosque of Delhi .

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  196. Moi says:
    @Talha

    Suffice it to say Muslims have enormous reverence and respect for Christ, in contrast to what Christendom has had to say about Islam and its blessed Prophet.

    • Replies: @Talha
  197. Rich says:
    @Metropole

    The Crusades were wars of liberation, attempting to drive the invading Muslims out of lands they had recently conquered. Kind of similar to your Palestinians trying to drive the Jews out of the land they took from them. If you read reports of starving Palestinians resorting to cannibalism, would you believe them?

    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @Sirius
  198. anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @ariadna

    “False. Iran responds verbally to Israel’s unrelenting threats of turning it into “a glass parking lot,” convincingly combined with actual attacks.”

    We don’t need to get trapped set up by the sorcerers ,thugs and the sophists . Destruction is what? What is destroyed ? Zionist creates words and concepts out of thin air and then they ask the rest to fit in or blame other to have fitted to the tee depending on context of what they need, depending on their financial ,political diplomatic and territorial needs . But they ignore much worse more savage more destructive more ethnocidal activities mounted by them repeatedly . ( CNN was devoting enormous time on Jamal somebody a cop killer when actually USA was releasing Polhard . . Thats they way they sidetrack. Not a word on the damages and deaths caused by him)

    Is Iran trying to do to Israel which Israel does to Syria Lebanon Palestine ? Does Iran accept that Jews exist? Does Zionsit accept that Palestinian exists?

    Who is committing ethnocide? . Why shall I blame Iran of committing something in future when Israel has been committing the ethnocidal activities against Arab from 1913 by displacement, demonization ,and by fomenting wars ?

    Lets not get sucked into their paradigm where anything against the Zionist cruelty is anti semitism and anything against Islam or muslim is freedom of expression .

  199. anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    1 Podhoretz secretly urged Bush to bomb IranBy DAVID PAUL KUHN 09/24/2007 President Bush and Karl Rove sat listening to Norman Podhoretz for roughly 45 minutes at the White House as the patriarch of neoconservatism argued that the United States should bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities. The meeting was not on the president’s public schedule. “I did say to [the president], that people ask: Why are you spending all this time negotiating sanctions? Time is passing. I said, my friend [Robert] Kagan wrote a column which he said you were giving ‘futility its chance.’ And both he and Karl Rove burst out laughing. “It struck me,” Podhoretz added, “that if they really believed that there was a chance for these negotiations and sanctions to work,”

    2 https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/sheldon-adelson-wants-to-nuke-iran-1.5279025- Sheldon Adelson Wants U.S. to Nuke Iran, Likens Two-state Solution to Russian Roulette

    @The situation could easily be avoided if Iran would simply refrain from making anti-Israel statements.” May be thats why Israel has been manufacturing lies about and helping spread lies accusing Iran like – Yellow Ribbon , Erasing Israel from the map ,assassinating Israelis in Thailand India and Bulgaria, assassinating Americans ,assassinating and kidnapping Saudi amassing nuclear material , Iran has military nuclear program , Iran is killing its citizen for the fun of it ,Iran being Amalek .
    May be the entire Muslim world oneway will refer to this argument of “anti Israel statement” ,turn it around and say “Zionist crated manufactured and spread anti-Muslim statements” resulting into 30 yeras war from 1991 which got rebooted by the same forces after 2001.

    • Agree: ariadna
  200. @AaronB

    I agree it doesn’t pay to underestimate your enemy based on past easy victories as the Armenians found out lately. If the IDF learned its lesson I’m not so sure they’d be easily humiliated by Hezbollah next time around. I hope this penegyric to Hezbollah doesn’t go to their heads so that they, in their turn, start underestimating their enemy.

  201. @Rich

    The fanatical ‘pretend’ Muslims are the ones that Israel have been feeding, arming and paying to cause mayhem in Syria. They do so because they have so much in common.

    These are the clowns you think strike fear into Hezbollah.

  202. Iris says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    The Iranian leadership keeps on making declarations that Israel should be destroyed.

    Bravo for repeating those worn lies, like a poorly-trained Hasbara parrot would do.
    It spares answering the rest of your nonsense.

    For your information, then-Israeli Minister of intelligence and atomic energy Dan Meridor has long acknowledged that President Ahmadinejad never said that Iran wanted Israel destroyed. His phrase pronounced at the “World without Zionism” conference was deliberately mis-interpreted and mis-translated by the Zionist press, to get the USA to strike Iran.

    “This idea that Iran wants to wipe Israel out,” Mr. Nabili said, “now that’s a common trope that is put about by a lot of people in Israel, a lot of people in the United States, but as we know Ahmadinejad didn’t say that he plans to exterminate Israel, nor did he say that Iran’s policy is to exterminate Israel.”

    What Ahmadinejad and Khamenei did say is that Israel was an artificial creation with little chances to survive. It is absolutely not the same.

    https://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/17/israeli-minister-agrees-ahmadinejad-never-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  203. @ariadna

    Yes, totally incomprehensible why Israel simply does not give in to this guy’s reasonable demand:

  204. Taxi says:
    @Isadoro

    Was the Leb parliament about to become hostage to US-israel-saudi interests? Yes, it was. Was Hezbollah’s parliament maneuver illegal? No, it wasn’t. Did it block the US-israel-saudi interference? Yes it did. So then stfu. But thanks for your hasbara all the same.

    And no, your over-inflated opinion of the port blast would not interest me one bit. I won’t be responding to any more ‘theater’ from you.

  205. Taxi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    You’re so freaking shekeled – hilarious! Keep pretending you’re of sound mind and not insanely warped by obsessive hate of islam and islamophobia.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  206. anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Thats life brother . Or shall I call you Bro-remnant of stupid brouhaha?
    Muhammed ,the prophet of Islam was not god He was human He was asked to deal with human tragedies misfortunes ,purposes dreams barriers, developments . War is part of life. How many wars did the west engage in since 2001 ? What happened to the concept of “turn the other cheek “? Why didn’t you follow Jesus Christ” Did the USA just start plundering g Syrian oil? Is USA based on Judeo-Christian values? May be. Change that as it suits yourself .
    I guess your answer would be – –these are exceptions . let me tell you dude- war is exception not regular ,normal not abnormal yes normal . You rise to the occasion by not engaging into something taht is worse than the original reason for going to war . Muslim can wage war or undertake police action against something like 911 without compromising the faith or losing for an exception .

    If you are Hindu, you can follow Ram Krishan by worshipping penis, depriving wife of sex ,or can follow Vivekanda by not marrying .You can follow “santanu dharma” by following amoral illegal job descriptions of the various caste or class as the warrior caste followed its “dharma” by snatching women for marriage or Mahabharat hero followed his Dharma by cheating and actually physically amputating Eklabya, the rival of his student in the name of payment despite no goods or services ever being delivered to Eklabya. Also try to make Hinduism ’s Manu consistent with ideas of democracy . You can do it by living what we call double life. Try to live up to the examples of any Hindu saints or Kings .

    It’s lot easier to talk of eternal reverence for peace at any cost when you don’t have to defend your physical integrity .It is lot easier to talk of nonviolence when you don’t have to worry of being attacked and destroyed. When the crisis comes,Hindus have nothing to fall back upon to guide. Everything is improvisation followed by denial, like the miracle of idol appearing on the mosques at the witching hour of the night but then using the myth to accomplish something concrete ,politucal destructive ideological sectarian purpose . Challenge them ,they would say :”its all mythology “ and ask you not to compare Hinduism to monotheism on those counts . Turn your head, and you will see same myths being used to create history that affects non -Hindus adversely .

    It’s a lot easier to talk of nonviolence and turning the cheek because it was never tested and never applied and would never be by his followers on a relevant measurable scale .State or the churches took up the violence as vehicle of securing both the secular and the religious interest from the earliest period of the Christianity . Jesus is just a figure head and always was to whom you come to say “you are my savior”

    Thus religion would have disappeared like the Jainism had or disintegrated into 99 sects had it been not for Constantine ’s rescue package . Jesus never could achieve anything out of what he supposedly proclaimed as written in the Bible .Someone else with the sword had to from Europe to Latin America from Philippine to Africa.

    Now talk of war

  207. Taxi says:
    @Rich

    The Crusades were wars of liberation…

    Thanks, Dick Cheney.

    • LOL: Iris, ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Rich
  208. Iris says:
    @Hiram of Tyre

    I read “Currency Wars” by Song HongBing, because luckily, a fringe, persecuted, tiny publishing house translated it to my native French.

    Reading these pages, one discovers with amazement that for three centuries, the history of the West was the history of the banking industry, and especially the history of wars, massacres, economic crises and social unrest that were deliberately provoked to advance the bankers’ agenda.

    Apart from the early chapters which describe the rise to power of the Hebraic banking dynasties in Europe, the core subject of the book is the USA.
    What shocked me most was the logics linking several assassinations, assassination attempts or mysterious and timely deaths of US Presidents. The assassination of JFK was just but the last episode of a series. All violent crimes were committed against American presidents who tried to set up a monetary policy independent from private banking.
    This only shows how far in time organised Talmudic power goes.

    The second most shocking fact is that this best-seller was never translated to English and is never even mentioned in Anglo-Saxon press, while its core topic is the USA. Americans really have no freedom whatsoever.

    The French translation has sold out. It now cost circa US$300 on Amazon, for a book published only 7 years ago. Europe is under Zionist dictatorship too.

    • Agree: ariadna, Joe Levantine
    • Thanks: antitermite
    • Replies: @Biff
  209. Meena says:
    @Rich

    What happened to Hungary conquered by Ottoman? What happened to Ethiopia Somlai coupled by European? Any thought ? What happened to Russia occupied by Tartar for 400 years ? How does India of 1947 compare to India of 1757 ? Any idea?
    Greece occupied by Ottoman Bulgaria Sebia occupied by ottoman ?India Nigeria Kenya Burma occupied by UK.” How these countries are doing ? Any thought ? How is Congo doing ?

    Then fact that is much nearer ear to truth or home or both is the landscape here in USA . Look at the reservation . You are lucky that Ottoman or Mughal did not know what concentration center or reservation would have looked like .

    Or do you just regurgitate the first sentence driven by the emotion that tries to pop out of the lips?

  210. Anon[241] • Disclaimer says:

    To 4-lot, 14- Fran Taubman

    This week, President-elect Joe Biden named Reema Dodin as a deputy director of the ..
    Fox and P Geller excoriated over ‘ including the occupation of a university building to demand the University of California divest from Israel in 2000.”

    https://mondoweiss.net/2020/11/biden-staffer-attacked-for-past-pro-palestine-activism/

    The perfectly valid legal and desirable activism has come under attack from rogue Jewish group who commit daily crimes on US soil against US.

    We need Hizbullah in USA to get rid of this Zionism variety of weed. They keep on repeating same crimes ( Byrne, Wolofowitz, Pearle , Feith , Elliot Abrams , Schumer, Engles and keep on returning to help the incompetent,greedy,lazy,entitled chosen at the stolen house . Let’s add Dennis Ross, Blinken
    ) and push their corrupt cronies in the administration .

    ————

    To 197— . Can you throw more light by offering some links.? Islam was never intended to be hereditary by any means from the beginning in any fashion or shape .

  211. Iris says:
    @Isadoro

    I will not comment right now on warriors, battles and the bombing of Beirut’s port!

    Is that because you have nothing valuable to say?

    The bombing of the Beirut harbour should be commented upon, because it opens the way to a new type of warfare against civilians and needs to be taken into account into power equations in the future.

    The bombing of the Beirut harbour was blatantly not accidental, as it resulted into one, single, coherent shockwave. No random explosion can achieve that.

    Considering its yield, it was most probably caused by an undetectable thermonuclear weapon. Such pure fusion bombs have been developed in the US under Israeli supervision since 2006.

    Using undetectable nuclear weapons against civilians will prove to be a double-sided sword. Such weapons are already available to Russia, perhaps to China. They don’t require any uranium enrichment, as they utilise readily-available deuterium, helium, lithium. These weapons will soon be available to Iran, Syria and Hezbollah, leaving Israel to contemplate the Pandora box it has opened.

  212. ariadna says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    … and right on cue today:

    “Amid speculation that Israel is on war footing over a possible strike in Iran in the coming weeks, moments ago Iranian state media reported that the country’s top nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh was assassinated in Damavand, east of Tehran. He was reportedly accompanied by his bodyguard when they were attacked by a “suicide” attacker at the entrance of Absard town.
    According to Iran Front Page News, Fakhrizadeh was killed by shooting, but before the shootout, his car has been stopped with an explosion at Mostafa Khomeini Blvd. Several others are also reportedly killed in the incident, but haven’t been identified yet.”

    I don’t know what words or figures of speech the Iranians used to provoke this assassination and the wanton killing of those near the Iranians scientist but it must have been even beyond the endurance of the tribe whose suffering has no equal in the history of mankind.
    No just mere hyperbole, or vulgar onomatopoeia, but perhaps they went so far as to use a sadistic synecdoche or two, even litotes!
    And the image you posted proves your point: they even write their rhetoric attacks in English on placards!!!!
    You are a glutton for self-embarrassment.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  213. @Iris

    Some Iranian leaders do say that Israel should be destroyed, but even if they only say that “the state of Israel should be dismantled” or “Zionism should be abolished”, then that would be as assuring as saying to a person “I don’t want to kill you, I only want to bomb your house”.
    You may not like Jews or Israel (I don’t either) but I do understand that people – even those “wicked” Jews – have such a thing as survival instinct. There is no need for the Iranian leaders to make such statements and they are themselves responsible for Israel’s (admitted : over-) reaction. Same for the Hamas and Hezbollah idiots.

    • Replies: @anon
  214. ariadna says:
    @Gross Terry

    That is accurate as well as a nice compliment: eccentric = away from the center (MSM)

  215. @Franklin Ryckaert

    All I can say to the words in that placard is “Why not?”

    Because we Europeans would then have to deal with even more Jewish refugees? Well, those out there in the Middle East who have to put up with Jews don’t care about us, and why should they? Not as if we care about them either supporting, funding and arming the Israelis.

  216. @Taxi

    For a healthy dosis of nutritious “Islamophobia” go to: http://www.pdfdrive.com

    and click on the icon “religion”. The first title that will appear is Glenn Beck: It IS About Islam. You can read that for free.

    LIE#11 has a list of Iranian anti-Israel statements.

    If you admire Hezbollah and Shia Islam so much, surely you would like to join these guys:

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Tumi
  217. Iris says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    This picture is no more “shocking” than Christian paintings of the Lord Jesus Christ bleeding on the Cross after the Crucifixion. The only difference is that, by a miracle believed in throughout Christendom, the Christ’s blood never stains the cloth he wears.

    One of the most significant and heart-breaking Crucifixion is that painted by Velazquez and held at the Prado museum. It is a striking symbol of sacrifice and solitude in death. The meaning seems to escape you.

    • Thanks: Larchmonter420
  218. @ariadna

    If you want an image of a placard in Farsi, here is one:

    Assuming you cannot read Farsi (I can a little), the proper translation of the Farsi slogan marg bar Israil is not “down with Israel”, but “death to Israel”. Small difference? Here is another “small difference”:

    Notice it is only “down with USA”, but Israel must be “wiped out”.

    But we all know “Muslims want peace”:

    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @Iris
  219. Hezbollah are definitely the good guys in their fight against Israel. I wonder if Hezbollah would fight for or aagainst a multicultural Lebanon with open borders.

  220. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Let’s get real. Ethnologically, the Zionist state currently occupying Palestinian territory is comprised of a blend of ethnicities who embraced Judaism. Yes, Virginia, there is NO Jewish people. There are four or five Jewish peoples, depending on how one wishes to define things.

    Zionism CLAIMS the RIGHT of return. I’m okay with that. By the latest studies I’ve evaluated, it would appear that those Jews who have at least 50% of the genomic heritage of the ancient Hebrews probably would include some 3% of the world’s Jews—perhaps up to 5% at best. So I could be magnanimous enough to agree that this tiny percentage of Jews could be granted the privilege of remaining in or migrating to their ancestral homelands.

    As for the 95-97 percent of Jews who do not share that native to Palestine genome—fuggidaboutit. No RIGHT whatsoforever. Palestine happens to be sacred to three religions: Judaism, Islam and Christianity. Should all adherents to these RELIGIONS have the right to live there? Ridiculous. So what makes the self-CHOSEN people of the tribal WarGod, Yahweh—may that bloodthirsty beast drown in boiling excrement– have more rights to their allegedly “promised land” than members of the other two Abrahamic religions?

    It would be agreeable to me that Jews who are not capable of living with those peoples not of their tribal persuasion should have a land of their own. Many people who are NOT of that totally racist mindset would be happy to see those Jews who happen to be parasitical predators go to a land of their own. My suggestion would be for them to use their massive accumulations of gelt and their “gonnections” to persuade the Australian and Western Australian governments to sell them a chunk of prime oceanfront and desert land in the northwestern corner of the continent—an area which is very sparsely populated–to be a RESERVATION for all Jews who do not (and cannot) get along well with others.

    According to ethnographic, DNA-based studies conducted by Johns Hopkins University, the genome of the Palestinian people is 80% derived from that of the ancient Hebrews. Their right to their Palestinian homeland is written in the sands, the stars and in their hearts.

    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @Fran Taubman
  221. ariadna says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    I see no contradiction whatsoever between wanting peace and wishing that the state of Israel be dismantled. In fact the latter may well be a precondition for the former.
    Got more “arguments” where that came from?

    • Agree: Iris
    • LOL: Taxi, Larchmonter420
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  222. Taxi says:
    @Majority of One

    Easy there, tiger – let’s not overburden the Aboriginal natives with the worst kind of white colonials on the planet: da djuwz. In case you didn’t know, before there was an israel, there was… Birobidzhan.

    Birobidzhan. That’s the jewish homeland. It’s theirs and it’s far away from EVERYBODY- hooray!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birobidzhan

    (p.s. I can’t find anything on google about Birobidzhan that’s not written by jews. I used to be able to though)

  223. anon[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    There is no need for the Iranian leaders to make such statements and they are themselves responsible for Israel’s (admitted : over-) reaction. Same for the Hamas and Hezbollah idiots.

    I couldn’t agree more! There is no need for you jew cunts to ever flap your stupid jew gums and you are yourselves responsible for any bullets landing in your jew brains. Same for the HIQ huwhite shabbos-mutt mouth breathers.

  224. Tumi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Sanctioning the children ,mother, elderly for 30 years over non existent military nuclear program . Abuse of power ,abuse of self aggrandize vetoing power .

    https://mondoweiss.net/2010/12/the-phantom-menace-fantasies-falsehoods-and-fear-mongering-about-irans-nuclear-program/

    Now it wants to nuke ( Sheldon ) Iran. —-https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/sheldon-adelson-wants-to-nuke-iran-1.5279025

    It has through Bernard Lewis offered a doomsday scenario which Iran supposed to have wrought on the west by the August of 2006 .

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115500154638829470 Aug 6,2006

    https://www1.cbn.com/onlinediscipleship/iranian-president-prepares-for-12th-imam%27s-reappearance
    .”Aug. 22 could be an ominous date for Israelis and Americans based on its significance this year as one of Islam’s most revered holy days, according to a Princeton professor who says Iran may be planning “cataclysmic events” to prepare the way for Shiite Muslims’ awaited messiah.”

  225. Iris says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    But we all know “Muslims want peace”:

    Israel just got Iran’s Head of Research and Technology Centre Mohsen Fakhrizadeh assassinated, in an attack described as “terrorist” by Tehran.

    Iranian Foreign Minister has declared that Israel is most likely involved in the assassination of scientist Fakhrizadeh, and that it is trying to provoke a regional war while its allies are still in power.

    It is blindingly clear who wants war, not just in their region, but for the entire world to fall into a dark and dangerous abyss.

    Enjoy the Talmudic shit filling your throat, eyes, ears and pockets; you truly belong to it.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  226. @ariadna

    I see no contradiction whatsoever between wanting peace and wishing that the state of Israel be dismantled. In fact the latter may well be a precondition for the former.
    Got more “arguments” where that came from?

    Yeah except Israel is not going to be dismantled. That is so yesteryear. Dismantling Israel had the world’s (especially Europes left ) attention for a long time with the colonial native, imperial capitalist labelAll gone. Time for you to come up with plan B. Israel has never been more powerful, vital and needed in the ME, and respected around the world.

    The fact that Taxi supports a military milia that works inside of a sovereign country that has its own standing army, that like all countries is controlled by civilian leaders. These leaders are supposed to decide when to wage war and what is in the best interest of their country. It is not in the best interest of Lebanon to store hundreds of thousands of missile inside civilian areas that border Israel, for the sole purpose of destroying its neighbor so it can become Islamist. It is also not in the best interest of Lebanon to be involved in Syria. Every normal person knows this, and Nasrallah is very aware that his ideology is self serving and not in the best interest of Lebanon. Defending Lebanon from Israel is no longer relevant.

    The Lebanese people are on their knees with strife and economic decline. They know that they need help from the world. They also know that Hezbollah is a hindrance in that quest as its ideology of the destruction of Israel is not a good selling point for world help.

    Watch as Israel continues to blow up missile deployments and Iranian cubby holes in Syria, As Iran continues to try and create a land bridge from Iran to Lebanon for arms shipments. No one is going to stop Israel because the world knows what a stupid idea it is to continue to arm Hezbollah.

    It’s all over. The world gives a thumbs down to Hezbollah, and a thumbs up to an independent free Lebanon, which I bet in a few years will also make peace with Israel.

    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @Majority of One
  227. @Majority of One

    Too bad I guess the Israelis and Jews don’t agree with your anyalsis of who is a Jew and who isn’t. Who can immigrate and who cannot. Too bad. Last time I looked Israel is a sovereign country able to rule on their own immigration policies.

    Maybe try telling the French who is French enough genetically to be a French citizen and who can immigrate.

    Hilarious.!!

  228. @Franklin Ryckaert

    So what is your honest answer to that “if Islam is not violent…” question?

    wikiislam.net>wiki>List_of_Killi…

    Yes, Islam is violent and there is no doubt about it. But before I can answer, you answered yourself by quoting a site which is banned from my country. Even if I can visit it with a VPN, I don’t plan to. Sites likes these, including “Answering Christianity” are mud slinging sites which do the bidding of the Satan.

    Judaism: Sister Fran and I are good friends, even though, she is a Jew and I am Shia Muslim. She did finally agree with me that during the times of Jesus, Hebrew was a dormant language, and for this reason Jesus and his disciples spoke Aramaic. Hebrew was non-existence, and both Aramaic and Arabic languages were not evolved enough to write anything. Yes, some papyrus existed here and there and what was written on them was unreadable due to lack of proper grammar.

    Hebrew was revived from Arabic in the late 18th century. And, Fran agreed that in the 10th century, the Hebrew TaNaKh (Old Testament) was very first time fully written from Arabic Quranic grammar.

    Christianity: Jesus used to accuse Jews that scribes and Pharisees changing the message. Jesus knew Satan is very powerful and resourceful. He is a liar, cunning, manipulative and so forth. Satan got inside Judaism to destroy God’ religion. The New Testament is not in the language of Jesus, as it was translated by some people who knew how to write Koine, Greek. My wife of 45 years is a WASP from Arkansas, and each and every Bible is different from each other, and I used to joke her that it is, “ever changing word of God” as they are all inspired.

    Jesus image is created though the centuries with changing Bibles. Three hundred years later he was made into a god by Nicaea Council. Even after this knowledge, he remains god till today. When KJV was replaced by NIB and NIV, I remember the uproar, when Jesus divinity was relegated to footnotes. Do you think Satan is going to let Christianity succeed?

    Islam: Islam was hijacked while the Prophet Mohammad body was still warm and not buried yet by Jewish advisers who infiltrated Islam as Muslims. Islam was spread by Sword for Mammon. You can ask Kevin, why the second Caliph Omar few years after the demise of the Prophet based on his close Muslim adviser (ex-Jewish), attacked Iran’s Empire and conquered it. You will get a feeble excuse from him about preemptive wars.

    You think Satan is going to leave alone another religion of God alone? The Quran was revealed in Proper Arabic Quranic Classical Grammar. The third Caliph Osman compiled the Quran in old, old Arabic Language (unreadable and non-comprehensive) and burned all the other Qurans. The Quran which he complied and is with us today, is in non-chronological order by chapters and verses based on revelation. Even the verses in a chapter are not in chronological order too.

    The first three caliphs, abu Bakr, Omar and Osman burned all the traditions (Hadiths) of the the Prophet and issued orders for the others to do so, saying the Quran is sufficient for us. Some forty years later these Hadiths were cooked and recreated and then put pen to paper 250 years after the demise. These Hadiths are based on that any Sahaba (companion) no matter how briefly he or she meet the Prophet cannot lie about the Prophet. These 100,000 or more scum of earth can be liars, cheaters, rapist, murders and so forth but cannot lie about the Prophet.

    The complete chapter 66 of the Quran calls Prophet’s two wives, namely Aisha and Hafsa as evil liars and destined for hell. But it is the same Aisha who claims 250 years after the demise of the Prophet that he married her when she was six and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine. Isn’t she a Sahaba? Being a wife, she spend a considerable time with the Prophet, so how can she lie about him?

    I will conclude by one of the Prince of Peace Jesus (as) sayings: And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

  229. MEexpert says:
    @Larchmonter420

    Here is the short answer. Most of Yazid’s family of Bani Ummayyah were killed in battle of Badr by Imam Ali, Imam Hussain’s father. Karbala was the revenge for that battle. Yazid, who was corrupt, into heavy drinking and lack of any human decency by any moral standard, bragged that he wished his ancestors were here to see that he has taken the revenge of Badr.

    Yazid was such a bad person that his father, Mu’awiyah was warned by many of his advisors not to appoint Yazid as his successor. In 61 AH he killed Imam Hussain and his friends including 18 members of his family in the battle of Karbala. It wasn’t much of a battle, 30,000 men for Yazid against 72 men that included 80 years old men and a six month of old infant.

    In 63 AH, following Yazid ibn Mu‘awiyah’s orders, and after the seizure of Medina, Muslim ibn ‘Aqabah told his soldiers, “Your hands are open and you are free to do whatever you want. You must plunder and loot Medina for three days.” His forces obeyed the order by desecrating the mosque of Prophet, turning it into a stable for his horses. His men killed thousands of residents of Medinah, raped the women and totally destroyed the city.

    Their is a saying of Prophet that” ‘Anyone who terrorizes and intimidates the people of Medina will be terrorized by Allah and may the curse of Allah, the angels and all the people be upon him.’

    This hadith has been narrated by Muslim’.”

    In 64 AH, the holy city of Mecca was savagely attacked by the forces of Yazid, who ordered the desecration of the sanctity of the holy Ka’abah by raining down fire and brimstone through catapults placed on mountains overlooking the Masjid al-Haraam or the Grand Sacred Mosque.

    As a result the supreme symbol of monotheism, the Ka’abah was badly damaged and many men, women and children who had sought refuge in the holiest sanctuary of Islam were killed or badly burnt.

    Having said all that, the actions of a rogue man cannot be used against Islam and designating Islam as a violent religion. His actions were nothing but the actions of a lone man who was drunk with power.

  230. @Iris

    If Iran would recognize Israel as Egypt, Jordan and recently UAE and Bahrein and Sudan have done, it would not be in the trouble it is in today. Threats have consequences, but that is too difficult to understand for the “geniuses” of Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and of course the Muslim and pro-Muslim commentariat on this website. 2+2=4, how difficult!

  231. @sarz

    SARZ + KEVIN BARRETT:

    Let’s get to the point — whether you define the following as “expression” or “speech”…

    I’m an atheist. Can atheism be mocked? Of course it can.

    Can Christianity be mocked? Of course it can.

    Can Judaism be mocked? Can the “Holocaust” be mocked? Well tell us — can they?

    Can Islam be mocked? — if Kevin Barrett had the power to ban mocking Islam, would he? And if so, what would he approve of by way of punishment?

    • Replies: @anon
  232. @Taxi

    Birobidzhan isn’t such a bad location at all stuck there on the border between resource rich Siberia and resource hungry China. It could be a good place for a high IQ, entrepreneurial and trade oriented people. However I’m afraid the Jews lose on all three counts to the Chinese. And they wouldn’t be able to get up to their mischief and shenanigans getting US and EU to enforce their will on the neighbours in that region as after all they’d be nothing without that support.

  233. Iris says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    You have neither the capabilities nor the education to comment on other people’s intellect.

    The only thing one learns from your imbecilic comments is that, behind your Christian posing, you are indeed an ugly Hasbara goblin> Just like another lady who often comments on the UR and poses as a Hitler fan girl. Enjoy your shekels and enjoy the murder with your fellow degenerates. You don’t have much time left.

  234. Talha says:
    @Moi

    Suffice it to say Muslims have enormous reverence and respect for Christ

    Absolutely. Even disrespecting him would be grounds for one no longer being considered in the fold of Islam.

    in contrast to what Christendom has had to say about Islam and its blessed Prophet.

    Meh…what’re you gonna do? I mean, by necessity, they kind of have to assume he made false claims because you simply can’t reconcile the differences in any coherent manner from their perspective. From the Muslim perspective, it’s relatively straightforward; the Son of Mary (pbuh) was a righteous prophet and spoke only the truth and his message was unfortunately lost in translation or otherwise not reliably transmitted*.

    Peace.

    [MORE]

    *On a related note, I recently came across this assessment from a manuscript scholar I follow:

  235. anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pat Kittle

    Islam has been mocked in recent years often by the entire western spectrum of the society . Evangelical mega churches attendees and the pastors , by the GOP presidential candidates from Huckabee to Santorum to Cruz to Trump and many more . Islamofascism was coined by the Jew Joe Liberman another presidential candidate . FOX and its black host as well as Hannity ,Glen Beck O Reily have expressed opinions taht border on hate speech against muslims and Islam. Kristol Krauthammer and Rahm Emmanuel have raised the same banner of hatred and contempt .In UK and Italy numerous authors columnists ( Nock Cohen and other ) and politicians have expressed outargeous context free anti Islamic hateful ideas. Other animal Sam Harris

    The day we were asked to “Say something if you see something” -free speech was dismantled at the altar of the power that envisaged world dominion. Thought was labeled as crime and people were jailed or picked up for rendition .

    “To win the “War on Terror,” the signatories[ PNAC documents] outlined several key steps: capturing and eliminating Osama Bin Laden, overthrowing Saddam Hussein’s regime, targeting Hezbollah, defending Israel and forcing the Palestinian Authority to eradicate terrorism and finally, to substantially reinforce the United States defense budget” https://www.e-ir.info/2020/02/01/new-american-century-1997-2006-and-the-post-cold-war-neoconservative-moment/

    This memo was the fountain of the anti Mulsim and anti Islam .rhetoric. Here the demonization began .Here the demonization
    became one of the modus operandi to realize the Israeli goal of eliminating Palestinian ,capturing Lebanon and eliminating Iran as enabler of the resistance to the Israeli occupation oppression and theft .

    Religion was brought back into the conflict by the Jews after crypto silence for over 5o years .50 years ago a state was crated illegally on the basis of Bible.

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Pat Kittle
  236. ariadna says:
    @Fran Taubman

    FAIR WARNING:
    Long ago, in a lapse I attribute to ennui, I had a bit of fun pretending I agreed with your hasbara in terms so outrageous they could have been quotes from Rabbi Ovadia. The sarcasm escaped no one else but you, who were glad of my “support.”
    It is not in my nature to be cruel to the intellectually ill-favored (even when morally warped) so I stopped.
    I scroll over your posts. Don’t post anything to me. Whine, writhe, spit, I don’t care. I will not respond.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  237. There must be good information and knowledge disseminating from this website and its articles since there are so many sayanim and hasbara (as well as the stupidest creature in all Creation—the Christian Zionist) spouting nonsense, gibberish, and absurdities (the talking points they are given to use for the most part) in the hopes of countering the truth.

  238. ariadna says:
    @Taxi

    Birobidzhan, Stalin’s gift to the Russian Jews as thanks for lending him a hand with the Gulags, the labor-intensive harvest gathering in Ukraine, leading the NKVD and much more…
    Tender factoid:
    In its days Birobidzhan proudly boasted of having the tallest menorah in the world.
    Yet the Jews left the Goy-arid region as soon as they could (the Vanek-Jackson bill helped) and today only about 3,000 remain.
    In the largest Jewish city in the world there are now two competing menorahs considered the biggest in the world, one in Manhattan and one in Brooklyn. The other boroughs are still bereft for now. The one in Manhattan was erected last year in front of the Plaza Hotel… and still they won’t let him have a second term!

    https://www.6sqft.com/after-a-battle-to-be-the-worlds-largest-two-nyc-menorahs-continue-to-spread-light/

  239. anon[997] • Disclaimer says:

    The Beirut bombing has hez worried.taxi will save them and all will be well.

    • Replies: @Taxi
  240. @Iris

    “You are a Jew” or “you work for the Jews” is the last resort of those losing an argument in a debate about Israel. I don’t say I sympatize with Israel, I say that if you threaten a people with destruction it is only natural they will try to defend themselves. If you don’t like such a reaction then don’t make such threats. That is simple 2+2=4 logic. If you belong to the species homo sapiens you can understand that. But apparently that is not the case.

    • LOL: Iris
    • Replies: @anon
    , @ariadna
  241. @Taxi

    Taxi: My initial statement did not address the Aboriginal people, though I have done so in previous postings. If you check a map, looking eastwards, you will note the Northern Territories. Much of that landscape has been set aside for the Aborigines.

    I know of no permanent settlements along the bump of land in the NW corner of WA, though as per the entire continent, they have wandered and migrated to and through much of the place. Because of its extreme aridity and high levels of subtropical heat, that corner of the continent has been very sparsely settled. Incoming Jews could give the handful of current inhabitants a choice of (1. converting to Judaism and remain in place or— (2.as guaranteed by a consortium of international governments–buy them out with a more than fair price, so they can relocate elsewhere.

    The primary areas of Aboriginal communities are a few hundred miles from the corner of WA which would become the new Jewish State—a Zion with enough fine beaches. to make the old Yentas in Miami Beach and Palm Beach almost insanely envious AND with a nice , hot climate so the aches and pains of old age would become but a memory. And. just think of the wonders of living in a Goy-free land that they have bought with their own money.

    So what’s not to like?

    • Replies: @Taxi
  242. @Fran Taubman

    As usual Fannie the Wardove, cooks up a krock of krap.

    The Yidocracy is deathly fearful of Hezbollah after getting kicked in the krotch attempting once again to seize the Litani river valley and all of Lebanon south of it. Twenty-five percent of their major battle-tanks were instantaneously transformed into smoking scrap-iron, redolent with the sizzling flesh of those who do not eat of the meat of their tribal totem—the greedy and avaricious hog.

    Weeping and wailing and the gnashing of teeth was heard throughout the lands stolen from the Palestinian people, the direct genomic heirs of the ancient Hebrews. Kali Yuga enters its denouement. The Iron Age of patriarchal WarGods is running on fumes. However it comes about, the false-ownership of Palestine by the Khazarian tribes of Gog and Magog shall terminate.

  243. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    There is no understating how many Jewish chains …

    Perhaps, overstating?

    The logic in this article (what little there is) fails often, and badly.

  244. MEexpert says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    If Iran would recognize Israel as Egypt, Jordan and recently UAE and Bahrein and Sudan have done, it would not be in the trouble it is in today. Threats have consequences, but that is too difficult to understand for the “geniuses” of Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and of course the Muslim and pro-Muslim commentariat on this website. 2+2=4, how difficult!

    Where does it say in the bible, Torah, Talmud, and the US constitution that every one must recognize Israel? Well, may be in Talmud but certainly nowhere else. Why can’t everyone live in Peace without recognizing Israel?What gave Israel the right to kill, bomb, and asssassinate innocent people at will? Israel doesn not threaten, it just goes and bomb, kill, and assassinate any body she feels like because she knows that the bought and paid for United States will protect her. Iran is the only country that has not bowed down to Israel and the United States. That is why they want to destroy it to bring it in their fold. The American are too dumb to see that Israel is destroying their country. They have lost all liberties because of Israel.

    The color revolution, Israel and the US brought to the Europe and Middle East needs to rear its head in the United States. It is time be 1776 all over again.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  245. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Well if you really read the Torah then you would know Israel is allowed to be defeated by enemies when she gets arrogant or disobeys commandments.

  246. Rich says:
    @Taxi

    You’re welcome, Osama Bin Laden.

  247. @Franklin Ryckaert

    You fuck with people. You threaten their home their existence. Don’t be surprise if they fuck of that. How else is this going to end up. Oh we really didn’t mean it when we say to the Jews “pack your bags, you are out of here. Go back where you came from.”

    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @christine
  248. Biff says:
    @redmudhooch

    Great quotes. I particularly like this one:

    The most dangerous aspect of Western logic of hegemony in general, and the American logic of hegemony in particular, is their basic belief that they own the world, and have the right to hegemony due to their supremacy in several fields. Thus, the Western, and especially American, expansionist strategy, when coupled with the enterprise of capitalist economy, has become a strategy of a global nature, whose covetous desires and appetite know no bounds.

    • Agree: Black Picard
  249. Taxi says:
    @Majority of One

    Wot?! A jew paying for his/her own land?! They’d rather have a heart attack lol! Evidently, they’d rather spread thin right across gentile lands because, well, the klepto itch is just simply incurrable.

    Your suggestion is packed with equanimity and that’s just not acceptable for the jews. Crime is their heroin.

  250. Biff says:
    @Iris

    Americans really have no freedom whatsoever.

    The gods’ honest truth, but don’t try to tell them that.

  251. @MEexpert

    Good, after having made peace with Egypt and Jordan, how many times has Israel made war with them?

    • Replies: @Taxi
  252. Taxi says:
    @anon

    The only worried fuckers are you and the idf wearing adult diapers and hiding behind paper walls at the Leb borders lol. It’s been like some 122 days of cowardly hiding-hiding-hiding. And they’ll continue hiding till the 12th hour – kaboooooom israel!

  253. Taxi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Peace through corruption, coercion and blackmail is no peace. The bondaged Jordan and Egypt are kegs waiting to explode in tel aviv’s face – just ask their populations lol!

    • Agree: Black Picard
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  254. Taxi says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The synagogue of satan is “people”? Well I never!

    The Algerian Resistance’s ultimatum to the occupying French colonialist: “the suitcase or the grave”. Most were smart enough to know its game over and returned to France. The deluded ones who stayed got the grave. Same applies to you and to your antigentilism and kleptomania. Your 72 years of immoral existence will be wiped out in two hours. And I bet you’ve got your second passport all ready to go. Smart little terrorist ooooarrrrrh.

  255. Meena says:
    @anon

    Again type 1 and type 2 – two classes of drug money laundering . America and Britain are on the top . Israel is mainstay of ecstasy production . Illegal money can be easily laundered in Israel. No question asked.
    Money stolen from 1990 s Russia are in the vaults of Israel.

    Banks about 200 of them couldn’t have survived but for the drug money laundered – that’s an UN report which came out after 2009 crash .

    Drug has followed the west in the heels of the wars initiated by the west – Vietnam , Korean, Cambodian wars of 60-70 .
    Latin American wars
    Wars against Blacks at home
    Afghanistan wars —. These wars are also drug wars . Drugs stolen and sold by the occupying countries .
    For some reason there was no drugs in the vortex of American manipulation and execution of the Iraq s war . Oh wait , there was oil .

  256. anon[411] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “You are a Jew” or “you work for the Jews” is the last resort of those losing an argument in a debate about Israel.

    If it looks like a jew cunt, swims like a jew cunt, and quacks like a jew cunt…

    I don’t say I sympatize with Israel, I say that if you threaten a people with destruction it is only natural they will try to defend themselves. If you don’t like such a reaction then don’t make such threats.

    Your pissralien joohadi coreligionists, and your bought and paid for Americunt golem, have only been threatening Iran and the inhabitants of the Levant with destruction every fucking day of the week, for decades, you poisonous little jew cretin, so go shove your fake jew concen in your jew cunt.

    That is simple 2+2=4 logic. If you belong to the species homo sapiens you can understand that. But apparently that is not the case.

    Apparently you’re one of those HIQ huwhite hasbara spewing jew monkeys that can actually count to four. Do some more tricks for us, entertain us woth your hasbara, jew monkey!

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  257. @Taxi

    Peace with Israel was made by Sadat (remember his visit to Jerusalem?) and King Hussein. In Arab countries policy is not made by the man in the street. The leaders of other Arab countries are beginning to realize that all these years of hostility to Israel has brought them nothing and that the Palestinians are not worth suffering for. Iran could make that decision too if it renounces irrational fanaticism.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Troll: Iris
    • Replies: @Taxi
  258. anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    If Iran would recognize Israel as Egypt, Jordan and recently UAE and Bahrein and Sudan have done, it would not be in the trouble it is in today.

    If Iran got kiked like Egypt, Jordan, the UAE, Bahrain and Sudan did, your pissralien joohadi squatters wouldn’t be up shit creek without a jew paddle like they are today, you stupid fucking jew cunt.

    Threats have consequences, but that is too difficult to understand for the “geniuses” of Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and of course the Muslim and pro-Muslim commentariat on this website. 2+2=4, how difficult!

    Yeah, and the consequences will be severe, but that is too difficult to understand for the joohadi “geniuses” of pissrael, Americunts, judaizers and of course the jew cunt and jew-worshiping Huwhite muttscum commentariat on this website. Stop behaving like absolute cunts, how difficult!

  259. @Majority of One

    TAXI is quickly becoming my favourite Alt-News/Alt-Media writer in the blogosphere. I love the way he writes with conviction & purpose whereas some other writers here on Unz seem to be interested in race-baiting articles to perpetuate a race war EVEN though I tell them that Blacks/Afrocoids in the US come different backgrounds with different mentalities, priorities & outlooks. Oh well!

    But nope, every time a dumb BLM puppet does something idiotic, or some fcuking uneducated street thug named Ray-Ray or TBone or 2Snacks or Slim Sauce does some shit against whites, ALL OF A SUDDEN, writers like the fake Paul Kersey (aka Michael J Thompson) who seems to have a hard-on for the dregs of black society will insinuate that ALL blacks are like that. smdh

    And even though I’ve REPEATEDLY said that #SYSBM black men have totally ABANDONED the dysfunctional DEMONcratic Party plantation as well as toxic fat “scraggle daggle” fake hair wearing black women (who voted Biden/Harris), that info is kept from Unz readers. Oh well!!

    FYI… A few #SYSBM tenets:

    7. SYSBM STAUNCHLY REJECTS FEMINISM, HOMOSEXUALITY, LGBTQP and any and all related branches, we do not support lifestyles that are abominable, unnatural and contaminated. Additionally, we DO NOT believe that men and women require equal rights because we accept the inherent differences between the sexes. Men and women ARE NOT THE SAME, it is the man’s duty to lead and the woman’s duty to follow his lead. This is yet another reason why black male/black female relationships typically do not work, black women refuse to submit to and be lead by the right type of black men, though they’ll have no problems following the lead of 12 Gauge Mike, Field Mouse, Cheddar Boy, Mincy, Shorty Fist and Shifty Sizzler. Men and women are equal in VALUE but NOT in terms of rank and authority. The man is in charge of the woman, any women who refuse to accept this as such MUST BE REJECTED.

    14. SYSBM unlike the black community holds ALL people to account for their wrongdoings, we will apply blame and culpability WHEREVER IT IS DUE. We do not excuse black women for their transgressions nor do we continually blame the white man for anything and everything wrong in black society. We do not condone nor accept reprobate and degenerate behaviour from any group. This includes black women.

    18. SYSBM members have nothing to do with the black community as a whole and have no problems declaring and standing by such a position. It was the so called “community” that in most cases ousted free thinking brothers from its ranks to begin with, we accepted its decision and subsequently moved on.

    So PLEASE Unz writers (you know who you are!), stop the race baiting & highlight WHICH blacks ARE the PROBLEM for fcuk sakes.

    • Replies: @Taxi
  260. @RedpilledAF

    Only in the “Western” ZioPress is Hezbollah considered “bad”. WHATEVER!
    I have great respect for Shias & other like-minded movements.

    Another thing…
    It is so bloody obvious that fake resistance movements like Al Shabaab (East Africa) & Boko Haram (West Africa) are agents of Western intelligence agencies. Any fcuking fool can see that. Well, actually not unless their mentality is redpilled.

    But if some blacks in Africa are going to get caught up in the Islam bug, then PLEASE choose Shia Islam for fcuk sakes instead of that degenerate Sunni Wahhabi crap.

    • Agree: RedpilledAF
  261. christine says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I completely agree.

    The dream is utter perfection for us and that is why Israeli nuclear capability, as a deterrent, is god.

    Talk of Tel Aviv being wiped out in two hours is pointless when up to 15 million in greater Tehran can be wiped out in far less time than that.

    Don’t fuck with people and ‘just relax’ and let god go with it’s dream course.

    • Troll: ariadna
    • Replies: @Iris
  262. Iris says:
    @christine

    Aww, the Hasbara shift handover. How very clever.

    • LOL: Taxi, Larchmonter420
    • Replies: @christine
  263. @anon

    I understand that for a member of the primitive species homo islamicus it is sometimes frustrating to realize that he does not belong to the higher species homo sapiens and cannot understand simple logic such as 2+2=4.

    I will try one more last time:

    When Iran was ruled by the Shah it did not make threats to Israel and consequently Israel did not make counter-threats to Iran.

    Since the Islamic Revolution Iran is constantly making threats to Israel and Israel fears that its nuclear program will be used to make nuclear bombs in order to destroy it.

    That and only that is the reason for Israel’s hostility to Iran. That would stop if Iran would take the same step as Egypt, Jordan and now the UAE, Bahrein and Sudan have taken. Simple 2+2=4 logic, but apparently too diffult for members of your species.

    • Replies: @ariadna
    , @tumi
    , @MEexpert
  264. Excellent article Taxi! I will definitely share far & wide.

    You’d think the disparate US Militia movement would join together & take a page out of Hezbollah’s disruptive organizational setup:

    Hezbollah: currently the world’s most successful warrior-resistor group fighting against the most malevolent of all modern abominations, otherwise known as the Axis of Evil (US, Israel, and their Western and Arab-Wahabi allies). Hezbollah is also currently the most reviled of all warriors. This is because unable to defeat Hezbollah on the battlefield, and after already spending some $11 billion on many failed coups and smear campaigns this past decade, the Axis of Evil is now reduced to merely attacking Hezbollah with malicious lies and false accusations. To demonize Hezbollah, to sully their immaculate reputation in a vast and global media campaign is about the only weapon left in the hands of the Axis of Evil. This defamation offensive may work on some uninformed people, but indeed it will not weaken Hezbollah’s phenomenal abilities on the battlefield.

    But nope, they are separate groups which appear to be mostly divided into regional groupings. I truly wish Africa had a modern day Hezbollah movement — especially around Congo where foreign meddling is raping that country of its vast resources. Never heard of Warrior Queen Amina so I’ll have to do some research on her.

  265. Robjil says:
    @Colin Wright

    On the other hand, however elevated the principles of the persecutor, what tends to matter to the victim is what is actually done to him. I doubt if Poles shot by the Russians at Katyn as opposed to gassed by the Germans at Auschwitz actually appreciated the distinction that the former was supposedly done to bring on the universal socialist millennium whist the latter was merely done to advance the cause of Germandom.

    Many revisionists have proven that the gassing thing did not happen. The Soviets and not the “Russians” did Katyn. Soviet Union consisted of 15 republics of many ethnic groups.

    https://codoh.com/library/document/the-problem-of-the-gas-chambers/en/

    [MORE]

    The ‘Problem of the Gas Chambers’
    By Robert Faurisson
    Published: 1980-01-01

    Conclusions

    After 30 years of research, revisionist authors have reached the following conclusions:

    The Hitler “gas chambers” never existed.
    The “genocide” (or “attempted genocide”) of the Jews never took place. In other words: Hitler never gave an order nor permission that anyone should be killed because of his race or religion.
    The alleged “gas chambers” and the alleged “genocide” are one and the same lie.
    This lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose principal beneficiary is the state of Israel.
    The principal victims of this fraud are the German people (but not the German rulers) and the entire Palestinian people.
    The enormous power of the official information services has, thus far, had the effect of ensuring the success of the lie and of censoring the freedom of expression of those who have denounced the lie.
    The participants in this lie know that its days are numbered. They distort the purpose and nature of the Revisionist research. They label as “resurgence of Nazism” or as “falsification of history” what is only a thoughtful and justified concern for historical truth.

    • Agree: ariadna
  266. @Taxi

    True. But here’s the thing…
    Jews are brainwashed. The Goy are (extremely) brainwashed — especially the “superior Western” AngloSaxon “Christian” kind. Most Sunni Muslims are brainwashed by their corrupt clergy & leaders.

    Then we have ignorant American blacks on the DEMONcratic Party Slave Plantation who keep getting brainwashed by self righteous know-it-all Ivy League SJWs that have unlimited Soros funds to sow chaotic identity politics. Did I miss anyone??

    So, everybody’s frigging brainwashed. And something HAS to give.

    In theory, the least brainwashed group should win this epic struggle due to waking up & sorting out their own shit quickly. But the next most important question is…

    How LONG is the Operation Mockingbird Deep State ZioPress going to be able to keep this brainwashing enterprise going? I’m getting tired of it; tired of interacting with idiotic brainwashed Goy.

    Which ever group can “collectively” wake up the soonest should have a chance at turning things around to put it mildly. But I fear we’re all going down with this stinking sinking ship because of said brainwashing. Now you know why I’d like to get the fcuk OFF this insane planet before it goes Mad Max.

  267. ariadna says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “You are a Jew” or “you work for the Jews” is the last resort of those losing an argument in a debate about Israel. I don’t say I sympatize with Israel, I say that if you threaten a people with destruction it is only natural they will try to defend themselves. If you don’t like such a reaction then don’t make such threats. That is simple 2+2=4 logic.”

    OK, let us both pretend for a moment you are willing to use logic (although you seem to confuse it with arithmetic) and to debate honestly.

    “I say that if you threaten a people with destruction it is only natural they will try to defend themselves.”
    You dishonestly truncate the chain of events: Iran’s threats are compelled by Israel’s prior and continuous unprovoked attacks, bombings, sabotage and assassinations. How about changing your statement to:
    “ If you keep wrecking havoc on a people, destroy their facilities and assassinate their scientists and leaders, it is only natural they will at the very least threaten you, trying to put a stop to your aggression.”

    “ ‘You are a Jew’ or ‘you work for the Jews’ is the last resort of those losing an argument in a debate about Israel.”
    First of all I cannot think of even one instance when a truly honest and informed debate about the rogue nuclear state (carrying out crimes against humanity against the native population, a state that has been continually attacking all of its neighbors and stealing and occupying their land, bombing cities and outrageously claiming it was all in defense against an “existential threat”) has been a “lost argument.”
    Second, to conclude that anyone making the kind of statements you make must be either “a Jew or working for the Jews is not “ the last resort” but the FIRST LOGICAL ASSUMPTION. If, in addition, you are an American citizen, sheep-sheared by the “Occupied Territory” aka the US Congress to pay billions of dollars to Israel annually, and one who apparently also reads something other than the MSM output, is even exposed to UR, who may know that Congress representatives must swear upon induction an oath to defend Israel (the refusal got Cynthia McKinney kicked out of Congress), then he assumption becomes INESCAPABLE CONCLUSION.
    Of course “a Jew” does, like any generalization, admit exceptions (Unz, Gilad, and a handful of others come to mind), the hen’s teeth that reinforce the generalization.
    In another comment you used the quaint expression “fanatical irrationality” to describe the Muslims, a revealing pleonasm. I take it your position is “rational fanaticism.” Not a pleonasm, an oxymoron, like “peace-loving Israel.”

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  268. christine says:
    @Iris

    Sleeple.

    Muttered whilst palms facing upwards and with a shrug of the shoulders.

    Grow a decent sized pair of bollocks and follow Alice into wonderland and you may start to grasp where i am coming from.

    • LOL: Iris
    • Troll: ariadna
    • Replies: @Taxi
  269. Taxi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Your definition of peace is warped. Your victim culture is nauseating. And your refusal to allocate ANY responsibility for criminal israel is sickeningly puerile. That’s why the only response to your pathological injustice is to say: fuck the fuck off already! Who’d ya think you’re kidding?!

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  270. Malla says:
    @KA

    Akbarabadi Mosque of Delhi was destroyed by British in 1857

    Yeah that is because the British blamed the Muslims as the prime culprits for the Mutiny and wanted to set an example. Remember the Mutiny was rude shock, small number of British people in a huge subcontinent of hundreds of millions, besieged and fighting it out. The Muslim mutineers played a game on Hindus mutineers. When the Hindus saw their true face, soon the Hindus were praying to their Gods for the victory of the English. But the Brahmans (Peshwa) played a double game on Muslims. If the British are driven off, we can get our Brahmanical Peshwai rule of the Martha Empire back. But if it fails (because the English are fuckin scary and capable), the Muslims get all the blame. And that is one happened. That is one of the many reasons, the Sikhs supported the English. The Muslims dreaming of bringing back Mughal Raj by rallying behind Indian Mughal Emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar (who was an old man, himself not very supportive of the mutineers) as a figure head, alarmed the warlike Sikhs who was like “the English are much better than those blood lusty Mughals.” Also you forget that the British gave freedom to Muslims of Pakistan region from Sikh rule. on a Pakistani talk show, one commentator said “Angrezo ne hume Sikho se Azadi dilayi” translated, the English gave us freedom from Sikh Rule.

    • Replies: @Meena
  271. Malla says:
    @KA

    Then European taught India from 1857 how Muslims had destroyed millions of temples ( a total lie )

    No it is true. Who repeatedly destroyed Somnath Temple? Of course “millions” is bullshit, but many temples have been desecrated. Islamic historians (not Europeans) themselves record mass slavery and brutality on Hindus.

    English also taught the concept of desecration of temple to India after first desecrating the Friday Mosque of Delhi .

    Please tell me which temple were desecrated by the British. And which Islamic structure was desecrated besides the 1857 fiasco?
    You Muslims are not that different from the Brahmins, lying slimeballs blaming the British for all your black deeds. Maybe Islamic fundus and Brahmanical Hindutvas deserve each other.

    • Replies: @KA
  272. Taxi says:
    @Black Picard

    Kind words, thank you, BP. I hate to disappoint you here but I’m a ‘she’. I don’t care if you prefer submissive women: I know some women who prefer a domineering man. But I also know other women who prefer to wear the pants and their guy likes it and that’s alright with me too. My only ‘feminist’ issue is that women get equal pay for a job that they’re equally qualified for as men are. Frankly, I find all the gender ‘he said, she said’ profoundly tedious and it gives me a headache – I don’t want anything to do with it. If two consenting adults are in agreement as to their role in their personal relationship, then what do I care? If there is no injustice, then what do I care? Americans of all shades and gender need to practice a little more ‘live and let live’.

    I’m by far more concerned with us being under an aggressive jewish occupation than I am with any other national food fight.

    • Agree: ariadna, Iris
    • Replies: @Black Picard
  273. anon[142] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Israel and Iran dont have a diplomatic relation. So Israel decides to kill its scientists and military personnel. Wow! Thats a new low . Israel has been doing it anyway for years .
    The way it justifies will simply be one day used against it ie :unless Israel agrees to the peace deal they will be subjected to various restrictions just like Iran was and Syria was . Thats into the future. Sounds good! May be you should celebrate dhimmitude and secondary status .

    Israel wants peace, it should just leave the lands it has acquired from 1967 war which was started by Israel. Did Indoensia or Sudan have to wait for nation building or democracy before they left E Timor or S Sudan? Just leave . Iran has reiterated its position on 1982 and 2002 Aerab peace in clear positive terms . Iran has said it would accept the peace deal reached by Palestinian n good faith without coercion . Israel has lied repeatedly and has waited out one US administration for next or simply has used small provocations to renege . Israel cant be trusted -that is take home message .Only force and power will change its behaviors. 1973 war has shown it . Liberation of S Lebanon has shown it .
    .

    Leave Golan if you want peace with Syria.

    Arabs will find the poison pill they are swallowing . USA and before that England are decent examples what the sly underdog Shylock Judas can do .

    Also the silence of the “colonized” countries like UK France Germany over Pomepo’s visit to Golan Heights and total bizarre silence over the killing of the scientist in Iran do not offer any enduring faith in the international institutions any more .
    These non-independent countries want to be free from terrorism enjoy the perks of UN ,lecture other countries but in each and every instance where they could have severely condemned state terrorism and injustices have failed to do so. In addition they never have stopped supporting the Israel’s terrorism by continuing business with Israel and by continuing to kowtow to one sided demand from Israel.

    This is a civilizational war between Israel and the rest of the world . Most of the world including western Europe, Royals of Arab ,dictators of Arab ,N Africa Latin America and India have come under the spell of Israel. Only China Iran Syria and Venjuala are still standing across the street from the Red Districts of the prostitutes

  274. Taxi says:
    @christine

    You’re coming from the synagogue of satan, dear. Any old monkey can clearly see this.

    Friendly warning: you touch Iran like that, and the Dimona will be touched like that. Now go tell that to you uncle Bibi.

    • Agree: Larchmonter420
    • Replies: @christine
  275. Meena says:
    @Malla

    You are bringing issues that I was not intending to address at all. My focus is narrow.One of the many incidents or chain of events frequently cited by British European about Islam of the medieval or early modern period is the sacrilege desecration and destruction of the holy non- muslim sites to create a permanent self doubt among muslims, to create a sense of guilt among muslim,and to create a scale that is permanently tilted in favor of the belief that Christian Hindus or European and Indian (Hindu ) are /were examples of tolerances . Nothing can be furthered from the truth .

    Now about your focus

    1 Pakistani talk show, one commentator said “Angrezo ne hume Sikho se Azadi dilayi” t” Independence as understood in 20th century is not same as it was understood in 18th or 19th century
    Muslims lived under Hindus, Shikhs rules before . Britain did not liberate muslim from Sikh .They substituted themselves fro Sikh . ( why did they ask for independence in 1947 ? why do they celebrate 14th August ?) .Sikh did engage into sectarian communal behaviors after establishing the empire though .

    2 Not aware of any particular interest of Bahadur Shah to be installed as emperor He was a reluctant participant . He was approached by the Hindu chiefs and kings in 1857. I can believe that muslims tried to sabotage or Maratha played the role of a traitor . India was not known as one continuous ideological political entity as Britain or France understood by Indian at that time . Sabotaging by muslim or abuses of the fear – emotion by Muslim politicians or by BJP are still in play . Just look at the appearance of a thing known as Owasei whose main job is to splinter minority votes and send BJP to power .

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
    , @Malla
  276. @Taxi

    You use vulgar language. You must be American.

    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @Larchmonter420
  277. @ariadna

    Read the Wikipedia article on Iran-Israel relations. As you will see during the Shah regime Israel had cordial relations with Iran. After the Islamic revolution relations deteriorated. Though Ahmedinejad did not call for the destruction of Israel (only “regime change”, but how could that be achieved other than by war? The Israelis themselves would not abolish their own state), other Iranian leaders did call for the destruction of Israel in no ambiguous terms. This triggered the Israeli reaction of attacks on Iranian officials and scientists, not out of some “diabolical” wickedness, but out of natural self-defense.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  278. KA says:
    @Malla

    @Malla -“slamic historians (not Europeans) themselves record mass slavery and brutality on Hindus.”

    These are false claims and made to highlight the power of the invading army and the king . There was no downside risk in exaggerating . Its not unknown but is quite commonpalce see the citation below

    Indian Puranic sources also, such as the Pratisarga Parva of the Bhavishya Purana, describe the resurgence of Brahmanism following the Maurya Dynasty, and the killing of millions of Buddhists:

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    “At this time (after the rule of Chandragupta, Bindusara and Ashoka) the best of the brahmanas, Kanyakubja, performed sacrifice on the top of a mountain named Arbuda. By the influence of Vedic mantras, four Kshatriyas appeared from the yajna (sacrifice). (…) They kept Ashoka under their control and annihilated all the Buddhists. It is said there were 4 million Buddhists and all of them were killed by uncommon weapons”.
    — Pratisarga Parva . https://www.quora.com/How-true-was-that-Pushyamitra-Shunga-persecuted-Buddhists-on-a-large-scale

    THIS IS FALSE POLEMIC . NOTHING ELSE .

    No doubt about muslim abuse of the conquered power in India . That was a continuation of whats was already going on In India .

    1 Richard M Eaton, professor of history, University of Arizona, in his essay, Temple Desecration and Indo-Muslim states, argues that evidence supports a very conservative estimate of 80 temples over centuries of Muslim rule.

    Now

    1In the early 10th century, the Rashtrakuta king Indra III destroyed the temple of Kalapriya, which their arch enemy, the Pratiharas, patronised. In the fights between Hindu Kashmir and Hindu Bengal temple of Vishnu Parihasakesava, the principal deity and the idols of the deity were desecrated and ground to the dust

    2 In 1460 ,Kapilendra,founder of Suryavamshi Jagapati dynasty in Orissa sacked both the Shaiva and Vaishnava temples in the Kaveri delta in the course of conquering Tamil Nadu

    3 Saivism triumphed over Buddishm in 5th century AD .An Ashoka pillar was converted inti giant Shiva Lingam at Bhaskaretvera temole in Bhubhabewswar indication an violent struggle between the two faiths
    The Maddalpanji chronicle of the Jagannath temple recorded that the Ganga patron of Brahmin persecuted Buddhist . Also attempts were made to assimilate the Buddhism.Jaydeva described Buddha in 12 th century in Gita Govinda as 9th incarnation of Vishnu

    4Jaina Heritage: Distinction, Decline and Resilience  – January 1, 2011 by by Julia Hegewald furnish evidence of the large scale destructions of the shrines and the temples of the Jain by the Shaivit/Virshaivite sects in S India starting from 12 the century having destroyed 800 basadis and 2000 Jian temples out of 8000.

    – Now
    Britain . Britain has stolen from palaces treasury and from libraries . It burnt down mosques in northern India It has same story in China and Sudan .

    I am not sitting here on any bench for any judgment . But neither the British shall . Not today not tomorrow and not in the past even . It should not blather about Islamic intolerance , narcotic business and should not mention anything about terrorism .

    • Replies: @Malla
  279. Taxi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    I’m only vulgar to terrorists.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  280. @Franklin Ryckaert

    You are retarded if you don’t know what Iran Contra Scandal is?

  281. ariadna says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    “a member of the primitive species homo islamicus”
    Your tzit-tzit is hanging out.
    “simple logic such as 2+2=4”
    Repeating this over and over gives the impression that conquering this hurdle was a huge landmark for you. Next was discovering Wikipedia, wasn’t it?
    “When Iran was ruled by the Shah it did not make threats to Israel and consequently Israel did not make counter-threats to Iran.”
    Ah, the good old days of the Shah when the Iranian oil was flowing unmetered to Israel. Ah, what rencorous nostalgia. And when the nasty bastard could no longer hold on to power his masters dropped him like a hot potato. What to do, what to do next? Iran’s past did not inspire confidence: the hubris of wanting to have a sovereign republic, Mossadeh nationalizing the oil. Was the Ayatollah a solution? They had treated him well in his exile in France: maybe he’d be grateful and do as told. Surprise: no more oil, no more obedience. So, no kidding, Israel had no problem with Iran back then…
    Repeating again and again your ditty that Iran’s threats are the only reason for Israel’s “hostility” towards Iran makes you superfluous on this thread: in both substance and style you are eminently taubmanesque. There is no need for both of you. Draw lots between the two of you. Tell them to send a better prepared hasbarnik.

    • Thanks: Iris
  282. @Taxi

    Including Muslim terrorists?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Malla
  283. Julia says:

    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Playing strong man and disregarding the same rules and conventions forced on wrongly classified inferior nations does not make you a desirable partner for the future, but rather an entity one always wants to avoid. Political prostitution of rulers is an ancient model and does not prove anything than the might of money. If that is your vision of human cohabitation than your god is not Yahweh, but some malfunctioning AI machine.

  284. @Franklin Ryckaert

    She (Taxi) is a Muslim terrorist. That’s her entire point. She fines it righteous and good, and claims out of goodness the Jihadist will prevail. Allah is on their side.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  285. tumi says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Making threats and actually carrying out one is different . Thought is not a crime . Incitement is one .
    Israel incites from inside Iran Israel asks MEK Pays MEK . Israel carries out acts of terror inside Iran. Fox CNN NYT and White House endorse it So does UK . So does France .

    I wonder if Zionism’s (Israeli ) acts of terrorism in side Palestine in in 30s and 40s and 50s were described back then as acts of heroism and bravery by the British and USA then.

    But one thing we can tell from the behavior of Zionism that in future mentioning this assassination of Iranian scientist by Israel would be challenged by the Zionist and if accused of doing it, Israeli hasabara would label the claim as act of anti semites.

    • Agree: ariadna
  286. MEexpert says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Since the Islamic Revolution Iran is constantly making threats to Israel and Israel fears that its nuclear program will be used to make nuclear bombs in order to destroy it.

    You forget that Israel has been assassinating Irani Engineers/Scientists and other professionals all over the world. Iran is in its right to threaten Israel. Iran is in Syria to fight ISIS. What right Israel has to bomb Syria on a daily basis, but to help their terrorists friends, the ISIS and the other alphabet groups?

    Sadat made peace with Israel to get money from Uncle Sam. It was peace for money, not a real peace that people wanted. Same is true for Jordan. They both sold out the Palestinians. Iran is the only friend Palestinians have. You can add 2+2 =4 but the result is still the same. Israel is an illegitimate country that has become powerful by stealing from friends and foes alike or blackmailing them.

    The world will be at peace only when Israel is no more.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  287. @Taxi

    The Algerian Resistance’s ultimatum to the occupying French colonialist: “the suitcase or the grave”. Most were smart enough to know its game over and returned to France. The deluded ones who stayed got the grave. Same applies to you and to your antigentilism and kleptomania. Your 72 years of immoral existence will be wiped out in two hours. And I bet you’ve got your second passport all ready to go. Smart little terrorist ooooarrrrrh.

    Tee, hee, hee, haw. The Algerian Resistance!!! That was when wars were fought with guns, tanks, and an invading army of soldiers.

    We are way way beyond that. There will never be another invasion into Lebanon like 2006. Those big boy Hezbollah rockets are for Jihadist who need to show how big their dicks are.. “See my rocket”. Sure Hezbollah could wipe out Tel Aviv or kill a lot of Israelis, but watch as simultanously Lebanon I mean all of Lebanon become one big sand lot.

    Israel has weapons so advanced most lay people are clueless. They can render an entire country dysfunctional without cyber warfare or killing anyone, with a bomb blast. They have bombs that take out entire grids and infrastructure of a country, without the direct loss of life. Deaf, Dumb and Blind. Israel has the most technically advanced submarines, unseen by anyone. Hidden technology.

    There are only a few thousand Jihadist like you in the world. Not that many. Most people want you gone. Most realize that you have to be gone, for the world to continue on peacefully. You remind me of a movie I saw “Far From the Madding Crowd. Where a barking sheep dog leads all the sheep over a cliff to their death.

    Jihadist make the best fantasist, true escape artist. The real world is too tough for them to compete. The leaders just make things up and all the little sheep believe them.
    Al Quds, Al Quds!!! In your dreams Taxi. Nasrallah is planing his escape route as we speak.

  288. Malla says:
    @KA

    These are false claims and made to highlight the power of the invading army and the king . There was no downside risk in exaggerating .

    Bullshit, you are making theories out of your ass. Islamic brutality = false claims. Hindu brutality against Buddhists = real claims. British brutality = real claims. Wow what logic??? Muslims have butchered and enslaved Hindus in the past en masse. this is fact and your arrogance angers Hindus ever more.

    Indian Puranic sources… 2000 Jian temples out of 8000.

    These are false claims and made to highlight the power of the invading army and the king . There was no downside risk in exaggerating .

    Britain has stolen from palaces treasury and from libraries .

    These are false claims and made to highlight the power of the invading army and the king . There was no downside risk in exaggerating .

    There you go.

    • Replies: @KA
  289. anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    They have bombs that take out entire grids and infrastructure of a country, without the direct loss of life. Deaf, Dumb and Blind. Israel has the most technically advanced submarines, unseen by anyone. Hidden technology.”
    more reasons that the country should be eliminated . Don’t you agree with the Israeli bitch The mistress – Ivanka ?

    The Algerian Resistanc” -Thats when Zionist supported France . Remember back then Israel used to do dirty works for a lot of countries across ME and Latin America including in Hondurus El Salvador .
    Israel was then the bitch .Now it has reared the roles .

  290. Malla says:
    @Meena

    desecration and destruction of the holy non- muslim sites to create a permanent self doubt among muslims, to create a sense of guilt among muslim,and to create a scale that is permanently tilted in favor of the belief that Christian Hindus or European and Indian (Hindu ) are /were examples of tolerances .

    You Muslims do the same to Europeans to give fake guilt. You make false claims. Taste your own medicine. And many of those destruction are 100% certified true. WHO DESTROYED THE FAMOUS SOMNATH TEMPLE? Martians? Answer me.

    Britain did not liberate muslim from Sikh .They substituted themselves fro Sikh .

    British Rule was far more liberal than Sikh rule or Islamic rule or even Hindu Rule.

    why did they ask for independence in 1947 ? why do they celebrate 14th August ?

    Woman get your head right. It were upper caste Hindus of the Indian National Congress who were the main engine of the Independence “Struggle”. Many Muslim organisations were writing letters to Montague the Secretary of State of India that British Rule be maintained. Because the Muslims were afraid that the majority Hindus would seek retribution and revenge for the brutality of the past and only the British could save them.

    He was a reluctant participant .

    That is true but he was used as symbol by the Mutineers to bring back the Mughal Empire de facto, which many Hindus and Sikhs did not want.

    Owasei whose main job is to splinter minority votes and send BJP to power .

    Wow I never thought of that. That may be true. Owesei is a politician after all. Sometimes I wonder if Rahul Gandhi is helping Modi behind the scenes purposely acting like a foolish, ineffectual opposition. Anything is possible in Indian politics behind the scenes.

    • Replies: @Meena
  291. KA says:
    @Malla

    Your bullcrap is supported by your odious attitude not by history .

    1 Richard M Eaton, professor of history, University of Arizona, in his essay, Temple Desecration and Indo-Muslim states, argues that evidence supports a very conservative estimate of 80 temples over centuries of Muslim rule.


    1Sarkar, J. N. 1932-1938. The Fall of the Mughal Empire, in 4 volumes. Calcutta. ( instances of Jat atrocities against Muslim under the Sikh .

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    2 Not only temples were desecrated and demolished[by Hindu kings] but mosques were also face the same fate by Hindus. When rulers or rebellions succeeded in subduing their Muslim counterpart, we see the Hindu parallel of Muslim iconoclasm. Sufi literature of Lahore mentioned that when Mahi Pal sacked Lahore, many Muslims were killed and mosques were demolished, and Hindu temples were built in its place According to Abbas Khan Sarwani, the Hindu landlords in Malwa and the regions around Delhi destroyed mosques and set up temples by the debris of mosques in the fifteenth century (Elliot and Dowson, 1872: 403-404). It is said about Rana Kumbha that he captured many Muslim women and had destroyed a mosque (Ahmad, 2002: 89). Rai Sen, a confederate of Rana Sanga, converted mosques into stables and plastered with cow-dung at Chanderi, Sarangpur and Ranthambore. Shaikh Ahmad Sarhindi lamented on the desecration of mosques in the early seventeenth century
    Elliot, H. M. and John Dowson. 1869, 1872 1877. The History of India as Told by Its Own Historians: The Muhammadan Period. Vols. II, IV, VII. London: Trubner and Company, 57 and 59, Ludgate Hill. The same practice was practised by the Sikhs and the Jats in the eighteenth century. Jadunath Sarkar says, “Under Badan Singh the Jats roamed freely over the (Agra) province demolishing houses, gardens and mosques, disfiguring them for the sake of a knob of copper, a piece of marble or a bit of iron” (Sarkar, 1938: 315)

    In 1194 in the conquering process, there about one thousand temples were destroyed in Banaras region (Elliot and Dowson, 1869: 223) by Hindu kings .

    Analisa: Journal of Social Science and Religion from Dept of History of Benaras University

    3 Elliot, H. M. and John Dowson. 1869, 1872 1877. The History of India as Told by Its Own Historians: The Muhammadan Period. Vols. II, IV, VII. London: Trubner and Company, 57 and 59, Ludgate Hill
    Department of History, Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi, India, 221005

    4 Eaton, Richard M. 2004. Temple Desecration and Muslim States in Medieval India. Gurgaon: Hope India Publications.
    5 Eaton, Richard M. 2014. The Rise of Islam and the Bengal Frontier, 1204-1760. New Delhi: Oxford University Press.

    6 Very rightly Audrey Truschke has pointed out, “Hindu and Jain temples dotted the landscape of Aurangzeb’s kingdom. These religious institutions were entitled to Mughal state protection, and Aurangzeb generally endeavoured to ensure their well-being. By the same token, from a Mughal perspective, that goodwill could be revoked when specific temples or their associates acted against imperial interests. Accordingly, Emperor Aurangzeb authorized targeted temple destructions and desecrations throughout his rule” (Truschke, 2017: 99, 100). Truschke, Audrey. 2016. Culture of Encounters: Sanskrit at the Mughal Court. Haryana: Penguin Books

    Hindus were in control of the treasury and army of the local Muslim kingdoms of Bengal and Lucknow and Bijapur .They rose in the Mughal court .Life outside the court did not change for common folks

    Read the Buddhist sources and Jain sources and read some m ore from Puranic Hindu sources to see what the Hindus did to the minorities (Buddhist and Jian ) living among them .

    • Replies: @Malla
  292. Malla says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Many (not all) of those “Muslim terrorist” attacks are false flag operations like 9/11 and the Bombay attacks. There was a possible Israeli hand in the Bombay attacks as well as Hindutva terrorist groups.

  293. AaronB says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Its not just words.

    Iran sends arms and cash to Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad. Also training and advisors. Iran is making a constant effort to supply Hezbollah with advanced missiles, which Israel is constantly bombing in Syria and Lebanon.

    Iran is also putting troops in Syria and trying to organize hostilities against Israel from there. A year or so ago Israel killed an Iranian General and several officers who were setting up in the Golan Heights (Syrian portion) to attack Israel.

    So its not just rhetoric.

    • Replies: @Barr
    , @L.K
    , @ariadna
  294. Meena says:
    @Malla

    What is your point ? Muslim in India has done nothing new that Hindus advent done before to themselves and alter to Muslims .They continue to do so. British guilt is not yet apparent unless you have sensed it somewhere like in Digeo Garcia or Honkong or in S Africa .

    Somnath temple was destroyed by muslim not out of religious faith but for wealth and jewelry . Babri masjid was destroyed by Indian Hindus out of hatred and out of faith Somnath was not destroyed by a ruling king ( ruler of India or of Gujrat ) Babri was destroyed by the combined forces of the police military ,state machinery and by religious fanatic . Myth has already started shaping the narrative – no one was found guilty of any wrong doing! .Next addition will be – one morning barb Mosque disappeared and a ram temple was seen standing on the ground!

    How many mosques did BJP destroyer in 1 week this year in February ? 15 mosques and shrines in Delhi.

    How many muslims did BJP terrorize since 2014 ? Millions . Go to Assam . they are trying same in other parts of India .How many detention centers are planned ?Visit Assam .

    No body is saying that Islam ’s role was an improvemnt for common folks But was it worse than the extant Hindu rules ?

    • Replies: @Malla
  295. Metropole says:
    @Iris

    The only thing one learns from your imbecilic comments is that, behind your Christian posing, you are indeed an ugly Hasbara goblin> Just like another lady who often comments on the UR and poses as a Hitler fan girl. Enjoy your shekels and enjoy the murder with your fellow degenerates. You don’t have much time left.

    Don’t forget Indian trolls. India is a source of cheap online labor and not only do they answer calls when you need customer service but they also infest online forums. It’s very common for them to debate with you endlessly and grind you down. After all, that’s their job.

    Israel and India are ruled by fanatics like Netanyahu and Modi, and they’re best buddies. What better than to pay Hindus to spread Islamophobia? As I’ve mentioned, Islamophobia is a huge, well funded industry.

    One weakness Indians may have is that they may only know the history of India and not much else, so they may need to need to derail every topic to start discussing India.

    The best way to deal with them is to ignore them.

    • Agree: Iris
  296. Barr says:
    @AaronB

    May be Israel should stop attackingGaza what it has been practically doing since 2007.
    May be it should stop supporting the head choppers fighting against Syria.May be it should stop attacking Syrians.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  297. Malla says:
    @Meena

    From The Indian Mutiny Of 1857 And The Sikhs – Dr. Ganda Singh”
    https://archive.org/stream/TheIndianMutinyOf1857AndTheSikhsDr.GandaSingh/The%20indian%20mutiny%20of%201857%20and%20the%20Sikhs%20-%20Dr.%20Ganda%20Singh_djvu.txt
    “There is no denying the fact that there was then no understanding between the Hindus and Muslims. It is true that the majority of the Poorbia soldiers (mutineers from Eastern India) were high-caste Hindus and they sought shelter under the banner of the Mughal emperor who was raised to throne. The emperor was practically a helpless puppet in the hands of his sons and of Muslim lieutenants, who had all the power and authority in their own hands. The efforts at Hindu-Muslim unity were mostly one-way traffic. Having broken with the British East India government, and not supported by either Hindu Rajput, Maratha, Dogra and Gurkha princes or the people, the Hindu sepoys were left with no alternative other than following the Muslim leaders who saw in the success of the mutiny the revival of Muslim rule in the country. Emperor Bahadur Shah favoured them with the prohibition of cow-slaughter in Delhi on the occasion of Id, and Khan Bahadur Khan of Bareilly also offered to prohibit cow-killing not for Hindu-Muslim unity or for respect for Hindu sentiments, but only as a bargain, for killing Englishmen. ‘If the Hindus will come forward to slay the English’, said he, ‘the Mohammedans will from that very [day put a stop to the slaughter of cows’ . This needs no comments. The unfurling of the Green Flag of holy jihad and the plunder and massacre of Hindus in Delhi, Bareilly, Bijnor, Moradabad and other places were certainly not the symbols of Hindu-Muslim unity. Nor was the Muslim attempt to hoist the Green Flag on the Hindu temple of Bisheshwar at Benaras the result of friendly regard for the Hindus.
    ‘The communal hatred’, says Dr. Majumdar, ‘led to ugly communal riots in many parts of U.P. The Green Flag was hoisted and bloody wars were fought between Hindus and Muslims in Bareilly, Bijnor, Moradabad and other places where the Muslims shouted for the revival of Muslim kingdom’ [pp. 230-31].
    On the authority of the Bidrohe Bengali of Durgadas Bandyopadhyaya, an eye-witness, Dr. Majumdar tells us : ‘the demon of communalism also raised its head. The Muslims spat over the Hindus and openly defiled their houses by sprinkling them with cows’ blood and placing cows’ bones within the compounds. Concrete instances are given where Hindu sepoys came into clash with Muslim hooligans and a complete riot ensued. The Hindus oppressed by the Muslims were depressed at the success of the mutiny and daily offered prayers to God for the return of the English’ 177]. This was the foretaste of the feared revival of Muslim rule. One shudders to think of what would have actually followed it. “

  298. Malla says:
    @KA

    Your bullcrap is supported by your odious attitude not by history .

    Get your ass out of your head. I have already shown by 100% Islamic sources (Islamic scholars and historians) about the Islamic ruthless, brutality over Hindus, enslavement of Hindus and mass looting and destruction. Many admitted they are attacking “idol worshipers” of India just like the pre-Islamic pagan idol worshipers of Arabia.
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-memorials-to-judah-benjamin/#comment-4010915
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-memorials-to-judah-benjamin/#comment-4011272
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-memorials-to-judah-benjamin/#comment-4011283
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/the-memorials-to-judah-benjamin/#comment-4011289
    I have never denied the brutality of hindus towards Buddhists or even muslims. You guys are the ones in denial. Keep being arrogant, feed the Hindutva anger, the fault will be yours.

    • Replies: @KA
  299. Malla says:
    @Meena

    I can believe that muslims tried to sabotage or Maratha played the role of a traitor .

    No shit. It was a total backstab-fest typical desi (South Asian) style. Except the honourable British & honourable Sikhs, everybody (Muslims & Hindus alike) were backstabbing each other, as is our typical desi nature.
    From ths same book as linked above
    “Finding himself helpless before the increasing violence of the armed sepoys, violating the sanctity of the palace itself, the old king (Indian Mughal Emperor Bahadur Shah Zaffar) quailed before them. In fear, he issued the proclamations desired by the sepoys (mutineers) and outwardly espoused their cause. Within a week, the indisciplined sepoys disregarded the king’s authority and refused to be commanded by his nominee, Bakht Khan, and transferred their allegiance to Prince Abu Bakr whom, on May 17, they elected as their king in place of the old emperor. The king’s confidant, Ahsanulla, then complained that ‘the mutineers were a treacherous, blood-thirsty class on whom no dependence could be placed’.
    The Emperor himself had no faith in the sepoys or in the success of the mutiny. He, therefore, entered into secret negotiations with the British and offered to have the gates of the fort and the city of Delhi opened to them if they guaranteed his life, pension, and privileges. These negotiations came to nothing, it is true, but they ‘show Bahadur Shah in the true colour so far as his attitude to the mutiny or the War of Independence is concerned’ The principal Mughal queen, Zinat Mahal, on her own part, offered to assist the British if her son, Jawan Bakht, was recognised as successor to the old emperor to the exclusion of other princes. The Mughal princes, too, were not sincere and faithful to the mutineers. They, as well, offered their services to the British in the occupation of Delhi on condition of favour being shown to them . ‘During the brief term of their authority’, the princes ‘occupied themselves in feathering their nests’, with the loot of the city, and then ‘their only anxiety was to save their skin as best they could’
    …snip…
    Raja Nahar Singh of Ballabhgarh, Nawab Abdur Rahman Khan of Jhajjar and Rao Tula Ram of Rewari, who were supposed to have identified themselves with the Emperor and the mutineers, were playing a double game and negotiating with the British for a settlement. Their double dealings, however, did not succeed with the British who treated them as other mutineers and hanged them.
    …snip….
    The Rani (Queen) of Jhansi had her own grievances. There is nothing on record to say that she had any hand in planning, instigating or organizing the mutiny of sepoys at Jhansi. In fact she informed the British that she had been ill-treated by the mutineers and forced to pay money, and she asked for their help to maintain order. Believing in her innocence, the British Commissioner of Saugor division nominated her to rule in Jhansi till the British could re-establish their administration. When the British changed their attitude and suspected her of complicity in the mutiny, she sent pathetic appeals to the British Company authorities pleading her innocence and professing her loyalty to the British.”

  300. L.K says:
    @AaronB

    A people’s armed resistance to a foreign occupier or aggressor has been made fully LEGAL under international law after WW2.
    The last ambiguities were removed in the 1970s/80s.

    Your “Israel” is an ARTIFICIAL Apartheid entity set up in Palestine after WW2, through a process of well documented land theft and ethnic cleansing by Jewish IMMIGRANTS who had arrived in the land during the few decades since the creation of the Zionist ideology.

    So armed Palestinian resistance to Zionist military annexation is both moral and LEGAL.

    It’s also well documented today that the Zionists never intended to take the already absurd 55% of Palestinian land, but in fact planned to take it all, which is what they have done.

    If not for Iranian and Syrian support, South Lebanon would have suffered the same fate as Palestine.

    That is actually the major reason for the Zionist inspired, regime change war against Syria, led the ZIO US coalition…
    IOW, the idea was to cut off Hezbollah from its military supply lines, which are mostly land routes from Syria into Lebanon.
    Having suffered humiliating defeats at the hands of Hezbollah, Zionism does what it can to prevent those highly trained and well led warriors from actually having access to weapons and munitions…
    After all, it is so much easier to shoot and murder unarmed or poorly equipped Palestinians than having to face these dudes:

  301. @MEexpert

    “…You forget that Israel has been assassinating Irani Engineers/Scientists and other professionals all over the world. Iran is in its right to threaten Israel…”

    Those actions happened after Iran threatened Israel with destruction.

    I agree that Israel should not interfere with Syria. An eventual peace treaty with Syria should include return of the Golan.

    “…Sadat made peace with Israel to get money from Uncle Sam…”

    Sadat made peace with Israel to get the Sinai back, which he tried in vain in 1973 with war. Both Egypt and Israel got money from the US.

    There is a reason why the Palestinians have so few friends. In Jordan they tried to topple King Hussein. In Lebanon they provoked an Israeli invasion with their constant shooting on Israel. In Kuweit they welcomed Saddam’s invading army. With “guests” like these Arab countries don’t need enemies.

    As for the peace process, Mahmoud Abbas refuses to negotiate directly with the Israelis, preferring to make long harangues in the UN instead.

    Of the 750,000 refugees of 1948 only some 30,000 to 50,000 are still alive, but the Palestinians insist that all their descendants of the second, third, fourth and even fifth generation, together more than 5 million people, have the right of “return”, and they are indignant that Israel refuses such demographic suicide.

    Suicide terrorists (“martyrs”) are still worshipped by the Palestinian authority and their families are financially rewarded. Palestinian children are taught that they will once liberate “all of Palestine”. Thus the only “peace” they want is the destruction of Israel.

    Palestinians are also bad for Palestinians. Both the Hamas and PLO leadership are utterly corrupt, stealing most of the money they get from Arab and other countries. A real settlement with Israel would stop that cash flow, so they don’t have even an interest in peace.

    It is very difficult to have sympathy with such “victims”.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  302. @Barr

    Maybe Hamas should stop firing rockets from Gaza into Israel, provoking an inevitable Israeli retaliation, which is then decried as an “attack”. Just like their sympatisers here, Hamas is too stupid to understand cause-and-effect.

    • Troll: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @L.K
    , @anon
  303. @Franklin Ryckaert

    I wouldn’t trust any deal made by Jews. But Arabs aren’t much better. They’re best left alone to each other with no involvement or interference by others … but then that won’t happen given their powerful lobbies elsewhere.

    There are some who claim that ultimately Muslims and Jews will settle their differences and unite against the Christians and Europeans, sort of like the Jews assisting Muslim invasions in the Middle Ages and their involvement in white slavery. In that case should one really promote peace between them or encourage even more strife for the sake of the preservation of Christians/Europeans whose sworn enemies they both are?

    • Replies: @Talha
  304. Iris says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    It is very difficult to have sympathy with such “victims”.

    It is also difficult not to see that you tick all the Hasbara boxes; you did not miss one single Zionist worn-out trope about the colonial spoliation and apartheid occupation of Palestine.

    But why is your ilk wasting so much time on obscure discussion threads, talking to people who don’t know that “2+2=4”, if you are so sure that Isreal will prevail?

    Helpless online discussions are understandable from us, the supporters of the Palestine and/or Hezbollah underdogs, who need to nurture our hopes. But why do you, the “successful” and confident Zionists, unmissibly swarm up like a bunch of epiplectic rats any thread mildly critical of Isreal?

    Well, you are commissioned to consistently do so for the same reasons Netanyahu is desperately trying to provoke Iran into a war using the confusion of the US presidency handover.

    You cannot leave us alone, like Netanyahu cannot leave Iran alone, because you know that time is agaisnt you, that you need to create a new reality because Isreal is doomed, that any sane person on Earth knows that you are the Nr1 threat to global peace and will be relieved when your racist state is gone.

    Anyway, you, Taubman and the others are wasting your time, or at best driving out your fear by polluting Western discussion threads with your deluded and vain propaganda.
    The blow that will take racist Israel apart will come soon , but not from the West.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Metropole
  305. @Iris

    But Iris, there were no planes remember, that is only a hologram. The towers were nuked from the
    inside and planted years before by a Jew Larry Silverman. All Jew all the time is your theme. Anything bad happens it is the Jew!!

    • Replies: @Iris
  306. L.K says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    *Well, sad little LIAR Franklin Ryckaert has finally come out of the closet and shown himself to be a full-fledged Zionist!*

    Franklin boy, you have made the Frans, Lots and Aarons proud! Good for you! Having read a few of your ridiculous posts re WW2 and the holohoax, it’s no surprise really.

    You are easily one of the most intellectually DISHONEST scumbags posting at Unz!

    Iris has put it best:

    It is also difficult not to see that you(Franklin Ryckaert) tick all the Hasbara boxes; you did not miss one single Zionist worn-out trope about the colonial spoliation and apartheid occupation of Palestine.

    But why is your ilk wasting so much time on obscure discussion threads, talking to people who don’t know that “2+2=4”, if you are so sure that Isreal will prevail?

    Exactly…

  307. Talha says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I wouldn’t trust any deal made by Jews. But Arabs aren’t much better.

    Can’t trust Europeans in this mess either. I mean, Perfidious Albion and others made a bunch of false promises to everyone in the region that kicked off this whole SNAFU:

    And even today, they aren’t really neutral – even the Germans supply subsidized nuclear submarines to the Palestinians (hmmm…or was it the other side?).

    They’re best left alone to each other with no involvement or interference by others

    Agreed!

    In that case should one really promote peace between them or encourage even more strife for the sake of the preservation of Christians/Europeans whose sworn enemies they both are?

    Hot DAMN! Ladies and Gentlemen…I believe we have ourselves a genuine Mexican standoff here!

    And, would you believe it, there aren’t even any Mexicans involved!!!

    Peace.

  308. Iris says:
    @Fran Taubman

    To dutifully serve Israel, Taubman, you should avoid the 9/11 topic like the plague and swiftly brush it under the carpet anytime it comes up, instead of bragging about it.

    I will happily oblige your curiosity and state again the two 9/11 tell-all questions:

    1- Why was there molten metal at the WTC for over 3 months after the tragedy?

    Hint: not a single combustible known to have been present inside the Twin Towers, including the kerosene from the alleged “planes”, can burn at a temperature high enough to reach the circa 1000 degreeC required to melt steel.

    2-Who was empowered enough by the 9/11 masterminds to hastily improvise the fatal call to demolish WTC7, a decision so heavy in consequence that WTC7 became the flag-bearing argument of the 9/11 Truthers, and ultimately provided the undisputable scientific proof of controlled demolition? (See WTC7 civil engineering study of UAF).

    Hint: the decision-maker made the admission himself on record. He was “obliged” to demolish WTC7 because it presented unmissable signs of controlled demolition collateral damage.

    There is a silver linig to this tragedy: the 9/11 false flag is now so transparent that no official enquiry is even required to prove how it was conducted. Physics is a hard science which has already provided the imparable 9/11 truth.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  309. KA says:
    @Malla

    Islamic sources are not reliable just as isn’t the Puranic sources . Muslim scholars in their efforts to glorify made various claims . Mughal king was traced all the way to King David.

    The references I have given you are from the scholars of University of Penn,Arizona university , Benares Hindu University.
    These scholars are still alive . Write to them challenging their assertions .

    Remember only 60 temples were destroyed in the entire Muslim periods .

    But this year in 5 days , heart of Delhi saw destruction of 15 mosques and shrines .

    • Replies: @Malla
  310. Robjil says:
    @Talha

    The Federal Reserve has been in power since 12 23 1913.

    The British and US both had top Zionists in power to start WWI to get the Balfour.

    With the fall of Russia, the Soviet Union joined the Zio team.

    The British, the US and the Soviet Union all had top Zionists in power to start WWII to get Israel.

    The latest WWIII is the Seven Nations to Destroy since the Zio false flag – 9 11.Iran is the last one, thus it is “always” in the news.

    There is no one to “help” for any real humanitarian effort from the west. The west is totally in control of Zio fanatics since 12 23 1913.

    This “covid” thing is the latest gimmick. Does anyone really “think” that the top Zionists in the west really care anybody anyone but the Top Zionists in power?

    The only large nations that seem to have a bit of freedom from Zio total control today are Russia, China and Iran. Iran is “hated” the most for it is one of the seven to destroy for the Zios Torah repeat game.

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Talha
  311. @Iris

    Do not get carried away. I could care less about your warped diatribe, that I as Jew take tremendous offenses to. I know family members of Larry Silverstein, he did not blow up anything. Point is I was commenting only on your cartoon showing an Israeli airplane flying into the towers
    Remember no planes?

  312. Metropole says:
    @Iris

    It is also difficult not to see that you tick all the Hasbara boxes; you did not miss one single Zionist worn-out trope about the colonial spoliation and apartheid occupation of Palestine.

    If you search for this name you’ll find, not a Semite, but a right-wing anti-Semite. Assuming that this is not an imposter, maybe the reason for his supporting Israel is the same reason Hitler supported the creation of Israel–to get rid of the Jews from their own countries.

    “Jews are parasites who want to exploit, control and eventually destroy their host,” Ryckaert went on to explain, “but because they are everywhere a small minority they must resort to certain strategies so as not to be identified and expelled.

    http://www.gazetawarszawska.net/judaizm-islam/747-china-and-the-jews?showall=1

    • Agree: ariadna
    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Commentator Mike
  313. Talha says:
    @Robjil

    There is no one to “help” for any real humanitarian effort from the west. The west is totally in control of Zio fanatics since 12 23 1913.

    Practically every leader from the West – even the “based” countries has to go to Israel and do the photo-op at the Wall. It is like a right of passage. You can look for an image search for stuff like:
    “Andrzej Duda wailing wall”
    “Sebastian Kurz wailing wall”
    “Viktor Orbán wailing wall”
    etc.

    There is no reason to expect relief and a resolution to come from the same direction where the problem first started.

    Iran is “hated” the most for it is one of the seven to destroy for the Zios Torah repeat game.

    That would be one of the most interesting developments, to be honest. If Iran’s integrity is destabilized, there will be basically a line of unstable nations with massively porous borders stretching from Syria to Afghanistan – allowing young Muslim men, living in war zones, that want to fight from everywhere from the borders of China and Central Asia and even the Caucasus a viable path to get to Israel’s borders with equipment like Stinger missiles. Lucky for Israel, Egypt happens to be smack dab in the way of any similar occurrence to have occurred when Libya fell apart and its weapons caches were emptied out by various militias. But that won’t be the case from the other direction; there will be no nation in the middle that will stop the flow willingly or will be stable enough where the government can be threatened to do so.

    Will that work out in Israel’s favor? Maybe it will. But it could also present a nightmare scenario. The fog of war is a precarious thing.

    I guess we’ll see.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  314. Iris says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Lol, you are all rattled. Did you awkwardly encroach on a dangerous topic out of your assigned script?

    Do not “take any offence” as a Jew. I don’t care that you are a Jew and I sincerely respect any decent Jew.

    You are a disgusting Zionist who rejoices at Palestinian children being blown up with frangible bullets; you said so many time.

    Being a Zionist is not an inherited background; it is a conscious and deliberate choice that you could have chosen to reject. Instead, here you are, a blood-thirsty witch parading her moral ugliness to the stupefied reader.

    As for your friend Silverstein, may his putrid carcass rot in hell for millenaries to come, for the sake of the 3000 innocents he dustified with nuclear weapons at the WTC, and for the 10,000+ who got radiation cancer afterwards.

  315. Iris says:
    @Metropole

    If you search for this name you’ll find, not a Semite, but a right-wing anti-Semite.

    There are all sorts:

    – It is very on-trend for Zionist Hasbara and deep-rooted Sayanim to pose as right-wing, White nationalist, racialists, HBD scientists, Western patriots, etc.., because they are currently trying to ride and control the populist wave sweeping the West. In France we ironically call this movement “National-Zionism”.

    -There is a second category of Hasbara posing as Holocaust deniers, WW2 Truthers, Muslims, Christian traditionalists, 9/11 Truthers, etc.., all the ideological categories considered as inherently enemies by the Zionists, because they are in the way of their agenda. The goal is to ridicule the enemies by depicting them under a stupid, excessive, violent or irrational image. The goal is to feed and maintain the prejudice created by mainstream propaganda.

    There is no way to know for sure . My criteria is to exchange with those I learn from, even if I disagree with them.

    • Agree: Metropole
  316. @Fran Taubman

    ‘…I could care less about your warped diatribe, that I as Jew take tremendous offenses to…”

    Are you really this dim? The two parts of your statement are not merely a non sequitur, but a perfect contradiction.

    God damn! Somewhere out there there is definitely one Ashkenazi Jew with an IQ of 129. You really are just that stupid, aren’t you?

  317. Talha says:
    @Talha

    The west is totally in control of Zio fanatics since 12 23 1913.

    My personal feeling is that this is too hyperbolic. Do Zionists have an out-sized influence in many Western countries? Yup. That goes without saying.

    Are they “totally in control…since 12 23 1913”? I don’t think so. They certainly get a lot of what they want, but not always. An example is when Eisenhower told France, Britain and Israel to back off of Egypt in the war over the Suez. Another example is the recent Pollard case. He was just let go – he wasn’t let go immediately after being convicted – even though many Israeli governments have been asking that for decades.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @frankie p
    , @Robjil
  318. ariadna says:

    How many Franklin Ryckaerts are there? The name is not exactly as common as John Smith (or even Smyth…).
    This one does not sound like the “2+2=4” echolalist who uses this name on UR:
    “Jews are parasites who want to exploit, control and eventually destroy their host,” Ryckaert went on to explain, “but because they are everywhere a small minority they must resort to certain strategies so as not to be identified and expelled.
    First of all they do that by hiding their identity (assuming non-Jewish names, “converting” to another religion etc.) and by staying as much as possible in the background (as “adviser” of a leading figure but not as the leader himself). Secondly they project the image of themselves as harmless, powerless or even as oppressed and persecuted. Hence the stress on the Holocaust story. This is why the Jews don’t want to be seen by the Chinese as in total control of America. China is their next host and they need to be seen as harmless.”

    Or this one:
    https://theunhivedmind.com/UHM/jews-are-demonic-souls-from-a-different-world-franklin-ryckaert-video/

  319. Malla says:
    @KA

    Islamic sources are not reliable just as isn’t the Puranic sources . Muslim scholars in their efforts to glorify made various claims .

    Bullshit. They are very well reliable. Stop making slimeball excuses.

    • Replies: @KA
  320. ariadna says:
    @AaronB

    Thanks a lot for nothing, Aaron Come Lately. Where have you been? “ Lollygagging on the Rambla while “Franklin” was alone (the shrill little yenta does not count)?
    He was tying himself in knots insisting that 2+2=4 means that Israel, badly injured by Iranian rhetoric, is valiantly defending itself from “irrational [semantic] fanaticism” by bombing and assassinating. Now you come to his rescue with “Here, drink this and repeat after me: It’s not just rhetoric.”
    It’s true that when I saw how damaged he was I called on your hasbara center to send us a better one. Are you it?

    • Replies: @christine
  321. frankie p says:
    @Talha

    You’re correct, Talha. Nobody really thinks that the Jews are omnipotent. There are red lines even for them. Darkei (Darchei) Shalom (ways of peace) and all that. Don’t want to cross too many red lines and incite the goyisher kattle to pogroms. The fact of the matter is, the red lines are fewer and fewer and those left are being crossed more and more frequently, such as in the case of Pollard’s recent freedom, the moving of the US Embassy to Jerusalem, the US recognition of the illegal annexation of the Golan. I’m being specific to the US now, as that’s really the crux of the matter. When the US support of Israel wavers and falls, the rest of the world will be quick to jettison its support, which has been mostly mandated by US diktats and banking control over western nations.

    • Replies: @Talha
  322. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Maybe Hamas should stop firing rockets from Gaza into Israel, provoking an inevitable Israeli retaliation, which is then decried as an “attack”. Just like their sympatisers here, Hamas is too stupid to understand cause-and-effect.

    Nah, violence is the only language that jew parasites understand, so you should pray to your yahweh that your precious pissralien jew pets manage to get the fuck out of Palestine while they still can—and by “still can”, I mean before Grün International airport, your jew port in Haifa, and all your jew air bases are turned to dust by the inevitable thousands of precision guided and non-guided missiles and rockets now possessed by the resistance. Just like their jew cunt and HIQ Huwhite muttscum apologists here, the pissralien joohadi occupiers are too stupid to understand cause-and-effect, and that missiles and rockets really do win wars.

  323. Talha says:
    @frankie p

    pogroms

    The problem with pogroms (besides the obvious immoral nature of indiscriminate communal violence) is that this keeps these cycles going; people do this kind of thing, then feel very guilty about it, overcompensate due to feelings of guilt and then, before you know it, the cycle has started again setting up for another round. It is best to figure out a way to break the cycle.

    Pollard’s recent freedom, the moving of the US Embassy to Jerusalem, the US recognition of the illegal annexation of the Golan

    What’s pretty incredible and, honestly, tactically brilliant is how it has been spun that Trump’s administration is against Jews, even though all the above happened and his daughter converted and married a prominent Jewish guy:
    “Biden Campaign Slams Trump’s Reported ‘Use Of Anti-Semitic Tropes’”
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/elanagross/2020/09/23/biden-campaign-slams-trumps-reported-use-of-anti-semitic-tropes/?sh=647fe7c51178

    You have to give it up for how effective this has all been, especially if you have paid attention to who Biden has been appointing to various cabinet positions. Which goes back to my original statement; “There is no reason to expect relief and a resolution to come from the same direction where the problem first started.”

    I’m being specific to the US now, as that’s really the crux of the matter.

    Which often plays out when there is a vote at the UN regarding Israel. You’ll basically see the US siding with Israel reflexively and like 2 or 3 other random countries.

    But, of course, the US has a massive level of global power and influence so that one voice carries a lot of weight.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @frankie p
  324. KA says:
    @Malla

    It’s not excuse . It’s unearthing true and then start wondering how truth got lost by the poisonous bravado ( Muslim
    Authors ) and clever abuse of the falsehood ( by Europeans )

    Learn . It will free you from belief that serves negative emotion and nothing else .

    By the 60 temples over few hundred years vs 15 mosques in a few days .
    Way to go .

    • Replies: @Malla
  325. frankie p says:
    @Talha

    Talha,

    I think you’re being rather one-sided, supportive of the Jewish narrative, in your view of pogroms. Certainly pogroms punished indiscriminately, and the little Jews paid the same price as the nefarious Jewish ________ (fill in the blank with banker, tax collector, vodka salesman, unethical businessman, userer, hoarder, middleman). One must keep in mind though that these explosions of anger and hatred were provoked; these were not, as modern Jews posit, products of a genetic mutation in the goyim that spontaneously and without reason result in hatred for the eternal victims. I agree with you that communal violence is ugly and that good eggs get cracked with the bad. I don’t agree that the perpetrators feel great remorse that results in the pendulum swinging the other way. I feel that the perpetrators feel that the Jews got their just desserts. The overcompensation begins when other Jews reach prominent positions in politics, banking, education, media and then start whining about eternal victimhood, throw up a smoke-screen of propaganda, and then proceed with the EXACT SAME BEHAVIOR that caused the previous pogroms.

    I’m hopeful that peak Jew will come about soon in the United States and the Christian goys will wake up. They really are a gullible people, God bless them.

    • Replies: @Talha
  326. Talha says:
    @frankie p

    I think you’re being rather one-sided, supportive of the Jewish narrative, in your view of pogroms.

    Bro, my view on pogroms doesn’t come from Jewish anything – I’m talking from my personal perspective which derives from classical Islamic jurisprudence; if some people within a minority population cause a problem to your society, you have to distinguish between those that are part of the problem and those that are not. The violation of rules, law, etc. of one group of them does not then confer guilt on those that did not likewise violate the rules, law, etc.

    The overcompensation begins when other Jews reach prominent positions in politics, banking, education, media and then start whining about eternal victimhood, throw up a smoke-screen of propaganda, and then proceed with the EXACT SAME BEHAVIOR that caused the previous pogroms.

    OK – let’s assume that this is the case. You have to ask yourself; if the cycle started the previous times “when other Jews reach prominent positions in politics, banking, education, media” and “the perpetrators feel that the Jews got their just desserts”…then how in the world, if the people did feel it was justified the previous time, is the same exact thing happening again?! Even given your assumptions, the cycle is there right in front of you and there seems to be no escape in the paradigm you are outlining.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @frankie p
    , @christine
  327. Malla says:
    @Meena

    Babri masjid was destroyed by Indian Hindus out of hatred and out of faith

    Babri mosque demolition was very complicated. Ayodhya was originally a Buddhist city destroyed by Hindus (Rajputs led by Brahmins). When a Korean Prince (King Suro (수로)/Sureung /Gim Suro of the Korean kingdom of Geumgwan Gaya ) married an Indian Royal princess of Ayodhya royal house, many centuries ago, she brought Buddhist texts with her to Korea by ship, not Hindu. The Archaeological Survey of India (ASI) found Buddhist relics under the mosque, not Hindu. the whole story that there was temple on the birthplace of God king Lord Ram, the Avatar of Hindu Lord Vishnu which was demolished to build a mosque in its place by the orders of the Uzbek prince and invader of India and first Mughal Emperor of India, Babur is very shaky. There are no records of the mosque from this period. The Baburnama (Chronicles of Babur) does not mention either the mosque or the destruction of a temple. The Ramcharitamanas of Tulsidas (1574) and Ain-i Akbari of Abu’l-Fazl ibn Mubarak (1598) made no mention of a mosque either. It might have been even been built at Emperor Aurangzeb’s time, centuries later after Emperor Babur, 5 generations later.
    Also the whole issue started the moment the British left India, when K. K. Nayar a local Govt official, sent some Hindu priests of the Hindu Mahasabha organisation to put the idols of Child Ram (Ram Lalla) in the Babri Mosque. and suddenly the Hindus started claiming it as a Temple, claiming that the idols appeared by “divine intervention” (LOL) and thus by God’s wish, this should be a temple.
    I feel both the ruling Congress and the Hindutva BJP worked together behind the scenes. Just a few years before the demolition, suddenly a Ramayan serial come on Doordarshan channel, the only Government TV channel at that time. And the Govt belonged to the “Secular” Congress. The serial was extremely good, well acted, well directed with excellent casting. The serial was to emotionally prime up the masses for the coming planned mosque demolition.
    Also the Congress Govt could have stopped the mosque demolition barbarian squad if it wanted but behind the scenes it helped it. Supreme court of India had ruled that nobody should go to the disputed site but that was bullshit, that law was broken. The BJP wanted to use the Mosque demolition to excite the Hindus for its own political gains. Before the Ayodhya Babri mosque demolition, the Hindutva BJP had only two seats in Indian parliament, it was not doing very well but after the mosque demolition, it shot up to 85 seats and soon the Hindutva BJP became the main opposition party decimating the Indian Communists. The Hindu priest of the makeshift Ayodhya Temple built on the demolished mosque said that not even once, did the Hindutva BJP leaders come to worship Lord Ram’s idols, it was all political. The temple priest was murdered a few months later!!! For the Brahmanical Hindutvas it is just a start. Their long term goal and plan is to destroy all Mosques and Christian Churches on Indian soil, as well as all monuments built by Muslim rulers and Europeans, even the Taj Mahal!!
    The whole fiasco was led by the Hindutva leader L.K. Advani, a younger Modi then was his right hand man, the Ramora sucker fish to the shark Advani. Modi was watching and learning the games of politics and eventually he and his gang of three (Modi, Amit Shah and Gadkari) backstabbed and took power from the old BJP guard of L.K. Advani, Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Murli Manohar Joshi. Modi backstabbed his master and mentor L.K. Advani. And soon after coming to power of Modi, legal cases related to the Ayodhya issue were put on Modi’s mentor, Advani to get him out of political competition to Modi. All these years of Congress rule and there were hardly any cases on Advani and now under BJP rule, BJP supremo Advani faces legal cases related to the Babri mosque!!!!
    But finally the most interesting part. According to Dr. Ishrar Ahmed, the Ayodhya Babri Mosque demolition is a primer to the planned demolition of the Al Aqaa Mosque in Jerusalem on the temple mount. There was always a Zionist element, behind the whole Hindutva movement, the whole Babri demolition in India is a test run to observe the reactions of the Islamic World and the international community for the eventual planned destruction of the Al Aqsa mosque to make way for the jewish Third Temple.

  328. Talha says:
    @Talha

    the cycle is there right in front of you and there seems to be no escape in the paradigm you are outlining.

    Keep in mind that, historically, pogroms in Europe or the threat of them led to multiple times when Jews fled into Muslim lands for safety. In fact, the whole issue of Israel cannot be divorced from the influx of masses of Jews into that territory after the second World War. So these things don’t happen in an isolated bubble and consequences of some people’s actions affect other people (that the first group may even sympathize with) half way across the world adversely – even if unintended.

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  329. Malla says:
    @KA

    It’s not excuse . It’s unearthing true and then start wondering how truth got lost by the poisonous bravado ( Muslim Authors ) and clever abuse of the falsehood ( by Europeans)

    Stop lying you slimeball. You are the one using clever abuse of facts here. And it is this arrogance which angers the Hindu fundamentalist hotheads further.
    You shamelessly and cunningly disregard the writings of great Islamic historians and chroniclers including those like Ibn Battuta because it does not suit your narrative. Not all of them were boasts. In many cases, the Islamic historians felt pity for the Hindu victims of the Muslim Kings. Of entire Hindu villages emptied out and sold into slavery by Muslim Kings.

    Learn . It will free you from belief that serves negative emotion and nothing else .

    You a lying slimeball will teach me!!!You are one full of negative emotions. I have no negative emotions the way you perceive it. I am the one who writes against Indian state abuse of Kashmiris, idiocity and lying about history by Hinduvadi crackpots. But lying about history is a game the modern Muslims and thus enemies of the Hinduvadi crackpots play too it seems. You both deceptive lying scumbags deserve each other.

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  330. Malla says:
    @KA

    The British never allowed Hindu and Sikh forces to destroy the Babri Mosque. Why do you think that the Hindu fundamentalist forces had to wait will 1949, two years after Independence from British Empire, to make their move of sneakily placing idols of Lord Ram and his consort Sita in the mosque?
    In 1853, a group of armed Hindu ascetics belonging to the Nirmohi Akhara occupied the site, and claimed ownership of the Babri Mosque structure. Periodic violence erupted in the next two years, and the British Raj civil administration had to step in, refusing permission to build a temple or to use it as a place of worship. In 1855, after a Hindu-Muslim clash, a boundary wall was constructed by the British Indian Government to avoid further disputes. It divided the mosque premises into two courtyards; the Muslims offered prayers in the inner courtyard. The Hindus offered their prayers on a raised platform, known as “Ram Chabutara”, in the outer courtyard. An FIR (First Information Report) was filed to the police on November 30, 1858, by one Muslim Mohd Salim against a group of Nihang Sikhs who had installed their nishan (sign) and written “Ram” inside the Babri mosque. They also performed havan (fire ritual) and puja. Sheetal Dubey, the thanedar (the police station officer) of Avadh, in his report on December 1, 1858, verified the complaint and even said that a chabutra (platform) has been constructed by the Sikhs.
    In 1883, Hindus launched an effort to construct a temple on the platform. After Muslim protests, the British deputy commissioner prohibited any temple construction on 19 January 1885. In 1885, Mahanth Raghubar Das filed a suit (No. 61/280) against the British Secretary of State for India in Council in the civil court of Faizabad before the Faizabad Sub-Judge. In his suit, Das claimed that he was a mahanth (priest) and was located at the chabutra in the outer courtyard and should be permitted to construct a temple there. In response, the mutawalli (Muslim trustee) of the mosque argued that the entire land belonged to the mosque. On 24 December 1885, the Sub Judge Pandit Hari Kishan Singh, a Hindu dismissed the suit. On 18 March 1886, the District Judge F.E.A. Chamier an Englishmen also dismissed an appeal by Hindus against the lower court judgment. A subsequent appeal by the Hindus before the Judicial Commissioner, an Englishmen, W. Young was also dismissed on 1 November 1886.

    On 27 March 1934, Hindu–Muslim riots and clashes occurred in Ayodhya on Id-ul Zuha day, triggered by cow slaughter by Muslims hurting Hindu sentiments in the nearby Shahjahanpur village. The Hindu Bairagis of Hanuman Garhi took over the mosque and destroyed two of the domes of the Mosque. The police arrived before any further destruction could take place as tensions had accelerated rapidly. At that time, the British Indian government took the onus of rebuilding the mosque by hiring a Muslim contractor. The British Indian government imposed a large fine of Rs 84,000 on the Hindus of the area as punishment the destruction of the Babri Mosque. The entire amount was paid by a wealthy elderly Hindu woman on behalf of the Hindus that led to the settlement of the dispute. The money was used to repair the broken Mosque structure by the British Raj government. Muslims offered regular prayers at the mosque until 1934, after which until December 22, 1949 only Friday prayers were offered.

  331. MEexpert says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Those actions happened after Iran threatened Israel with destruction.

    Threats are words. Assassinations of innocent people are cowardly actions. Israel is the real terrorist state.

    Sadat made peace with Israel to get the Sinai back, which he tried in vain in 1973 with war. Both Egypt and Israel got money from the US.

    Israel returned Sinai after taking all the oil out of it. Return of Sinai just looked good for Sadat. Real reason was money. Of course, Israel is always ready to milk the US for money.

    As for the peace process, Mahmoud Abbas refuses to negotiate directly with the Israelis, preferring to make long harangues in the UN instead.

    Mahmood Abbas made several deals with Israel, Barak, Olmert, and Netanyahu but he always got jipped. They were all rotten deals but Israel wanted more.

    Suicide terrorists (“martyrs”) are still worshipped by the Palestinian authority

    Ben-Gurion, Menachem Begin, Itzaac Shamir were three biggest terrorists worshipped by Israel.

  332. Malla says:
    @Talha

    Yes, I know, Europe has gotta be blamed somehow, I am not surprised. I have already written posts on this issue.
    https://www.unz.com/tengelhardt/american-islamophobias-fake-facts/?showcomments#comment-2449077
    When the Zionist movement started, European Jews were more or less had acquired legal rights in most Western countries. Indeed Germany was among the first to give emancipation and rights to the Jews. The Germans felt cheated later and rightfully so but that is a different story. The main problem was in Russia but even in that case it was rarely the fault of Russians. It were Jews who were acting arrogantly towards Russians, the Russians were in general friendly to the Jews. The Russian Jewish Rabbinical leadership wanted these programs and “anti-Jewish’ sentiments to keep a grip on the Jews in Russia as is normally the case. anti-Semitism or whatever bullshit helps the Jewish leadership to keep the Jewish sheepie in line. Theodore Herzl wanted a genuine solution for the Russian Jews and the British had even offered Uganda, part of the British Empire as an alternative. Mr. Herzl accepted the offer, his aim was the emancipation of the Russian Jews. But the Russian Jewish Rabbanical leadership rejected in outright and even called Herzl a traitor, they even cursed him and Mr. Herzl died in a short time. It was Jerusalem they Eastern Rabbis wanted and Jerusalem they would get. Capice. No amount of pogroms and lack of pogroms would change anything.
    Anyways, if the European Jews wanted they could have lived in the Middle East as equals to the other middle Easterners like in earlier cases. There was no need for a Zionist state. Why the sudden need of a Zionist State in the middle East? Why could the Jews not live in the Middle East and North Africa like in the Jewish communities as earlier among the locals?

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  333. Malla says:
    @Talha

    And as far as pogroms, the Middle East and North Africa did have their own list of anti-Jewish riots and pogroms by both Muslims and non Muslims. But overall it is true that Jews were better off in the Middle East rather than Europe. One more reason, Jews should be in the Middle East not Europe but without the need of a Zionist State. But anyways, the MENA region had some cases of pogroms too. For example
    1517 Safed attacks took place in Safed soon after the Turkish Ottomans had ousted the Mamluks during the Ottoman–Mamluk War in 1517. At the time the town had roughly 300 Jewish households. Accounts of the attack against the Jews in Safed were recorded by historian Rabbi Elijah Capsali of Candia, (Crete) and Rabbi Joseph Garson, who was living in Damascus at the time. According to these reports, many Jews were killed and left injured. They were compelled to flee the city and their property was plundered. When the Mamluks realized that the Ottomans were about to conquer Israel in 1516, they accused the Jews of treason and of supporting the new rulers. Before withdrawing, the Mamluk soldiers along with neigbouring Arabs took revenge by attacking the Jews of Galilee and Safed and looting their property. Naked and destitute, the Jews were forced to hide in the fields. Alternatively, the attack occurred during an attempt by local Mamluk sheikhs to reassert their control after being removed from power by the incoming Turks. Supporters of the deposed Mamluk governor attacked Ottoman officials and after having murdered the Ottoman governor, the mob turned upon the Jews and rampaged through the Jewish quarter. Many Jews were reportedly killed while others were wounded or had their property pillaged. A contemporary Hebrew source described the riots as the rioters killed many of Safed’s Jews and robbed others and left them destitute. Those who escaped physical harm sought refuge in the nearby villages, “for due to sins it happened that our brethren were evicted from their homes, robbed, and plundered, and they fled naked to the villages, without any provisions.”.“Many subsequently fled the city, but the community was soon rehabilitated with the financial help of Egyptian Jewry. However the Jewish community quickly recovered later on.
    1517 Hebron pograms also occurred in the final phases of the Ottoman–Mamluk War (1516–17), when Turkish Ottomans had ousted the Mamluks and taken Palestine. The massacre targeted the Jewish population of the city and is also referred to as a pogrom.
    An account of the event, recorded by Japheth ben Manasseh in 1518, mentions how the onslaught was initiated by Turkish troops led by Murad Bey, the deputy of the Sultan from Jerusalem. Jews were attacked, beaten and raped, and many were killed as their homes and businesses were looted and pillaged. It has been suggested that the stable financial position of the Hebronite Jews at the time was what attracted the Turkish soldiers to engage in the mass plunder.
    The 1838 Druze attack on Safed began on July 5, 1838, during the Druze revolt against the rule of Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt. Tensions had mounted as the Druze captured an Egyptian garrison outside of Safed. The local Safed militia of several hundred was heavily outnumbered by the Druze, and the city was gripped in despair as the militia eventually abandoned the city and the Druze rebels entered the city on July 5. The Druze rebels and a Muslim mob descended on the Jewish quarter of Safed and, in scenes reminiscent of the Safed plunder four years earlier, spent three days attacking Jews, plundering their homes and desecrating their synagogues.

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  334. christine says:
    @Taxi

    ‘You’re coming from the synagogue of satan’

    How is that so when all i am doing is pointing out Israeli nuclear capability as a deterrent?

    I really hope before long (now that they aren’t fully committed to the JCPOA) Iran get a nuclear deterrent like Israel have and i wouldn’t mind seeing state of the art Russian missile defense systems in Syria and Lebanon too and so what does that tell you about where i am coming from?

    Of course Dimona would very likely get hit massively if Iran was nuked and that only adds to the beautiful god given deterrence that will probably keep you thinking wishfully about Israel and it’s destruction for a long long time to come.

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  335. Malla says:
    @Talha

    A few more
    The 1834 Hebron massacre occurred in early August 1834, when the forces of Ibrahim Pasha launched an assault against Hebron to crush the last pocket of significant resistance in Palestine during the Peasants’ revolt in Palestine. About 500 civilians and rebels were killed, while the Egyptian Army experienced 260 casualties.
    Mass killings and rapes by the Egyptian troops took place in Hebron after they captured the city from the rebels. About 500 rebels and inhabitants were killed, and 750 Muslim men were taken as conscripts.Another 120 adolescents were taken by Egyptian officers “to do with as they wanted”, according to historian Baruch Kimmerling. The Jews of Hebron had not participated in the rebellion, but Egyptian soldiers who entered the city ignored this. For three hours, troops committed atrocities against the people of Hebron. The Jews were not subject to Pasha’s conscription policy but suffered the “most cruel outrages”and were targeted for “special violence”. While many Muslims managed to escape the impending danger, the Jews remained, confident they would not be harmed by the Egyptians. Apparently, the Jews of Jerusalem had received an assurance from Ibrahim that Hebron’s Jews would be protected. In the end, seven Jewish men and five girls were killed. Isaac Farhi also described violent attacks on the Jews of Hebron committed by Egyptian soldiers. He writes that the attack in Hebron was even worse than the plunder in Safed. Synagogues were desecrated, houses were ransacked, and valuable items were stolen leaving the Jewish community of Hebron destitute. The massacre succeeded in uniting Hebron’s Sephardic and Ashkenasic communities, but it took until 1858 for the community to fully recover. The Jews of Hebron later referred to the events as a Yagma el Gabireh (“great destruction”).

    The 1934 Constantine riots was an anti-Jewish riot that erupted in the Algerian city of Constantine.The initial cause of the conflict was a confrontation between Eliahou Khalifa, a Jewish Zouave, and Muslim worshippers in a mosque next to his home. The Muslims said that Khalifa was drunk, and insulted Islam. A report by the Jewish authorities claimed he was not intoxicated, and that after getting into an argument with them, they had cursed his faith and he cursed them and their faith back.The French colonial authorities only reported the Muslim version of events.
    Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported on August 8, 1934:
    ‘A scene of utter desolation and horror, of Jewish girls with their breasts cut off, of little children with numerous knife wounds and of whole families locked in their homes and burned to death, was described by a Jewish Telegraphic Agency correspondent, who succeeded in reaching this city today. “It will take days before the world will obtain a true picture of all the atrocities committed by the Arabs during the pogrom on the Jewish quarter,” the correspondent wired. “The only comparison I can think of is the Palestine riots of 1929. I found Jewish girls with their breasts cut off, greybearded Jews stabbed to death, little Jewish children dead of numerous knife wounds and whole families locked in their homes and burned to death by the rioters.” “Just as in Palestine in 1929, the lists of the dead and injured run into the hundreds with no official estimates available. The hospitals are filled with Jewish victims and the doors of the hospitals are besieged with half-crazed wives and mothers seeking to ascertain whether their loved ones are among the dead or injured, or whether they succeeded in escaping the pogrom bands”.

    1941 Gabès riots in Tunisia
    Gabès riots was a three-day wave of anti-Jewish violence which erupted in the Tunisian city of Gabès in 1941. The riots began when a mob of Arabs rushed the Jewish Quarter, killing 7 Jews and
    injuring 20.

  336. Malla says:
    @Talha

    Pogroms have not been unknown in Iran. In 1892, several Jews were murdered in Shiraz. Twenty Jews were murdered and three synagogues were burned down in 1897. Pogroms, forced conversion and expulsion swept Zarqon, Lar, Jahrom, Darab, Nobendigan, Sarvestan and Kazerun. Jamshid Sedaghat, a historian in Shiraz, has said attacks happened annually during the late 19th century, finally ending as a result of pressure from Europe. The last of these occurred in 1910. The 1910 Shiraz blood libel was a pogrom of the Jewish quarter in Shiraz, Iran, on October 30, 1910, organized by the apostate Qavam familyand sparked by accusations that the Jews had ritually killed a Muslim girl. In the course of the pogrom, 12 Jews were killed and about 50 were injured, and 6,000 Jews of Shiraz were robbed of all their possessions. There was a claim that a Koran had been desecrated but it was allowed to drown down. The body of a child was found one kilometer away from the city behind an abandoned palace, one hundred meters from the Jewish cemetery. Some thought that the body was that of the missing Muslim girl and that she had been killed by the Jews. Subsequently, it was found to be the disinterred body of a Jewish boy who had been buried eight days previously.
    The next morning, a crowd began to gather in front of the government palace; the people were accusing the Jews of murdering the girl and were vociferously demanding vengeance. The temporary governor ordered the troops to attack the “mob”, and the crowd headed for the Jewish quarter, where they arrived simultaneously with the soldiers. The latter, contrary to the orders given to them, were the first to attack the Jewish quarters, giving the rest of the mob a signal to plunder. Soldiers, sayyids, Qashqais who were in the city to sell some livestock, even women and children, joined in the pillage, which lasted for six to seven hours, not sparing a single one of 260 houses in the Jewish quarter.The representative of the Alliance Israélite Universelle thus described the robbing:

    “The thieves formed a chain in the street. They passed along the line carpets, bundles of goods, bales of merchandise […], anything, in a word, which was salable. Anything, which did not have commercial value or which, on account of its weight or size, could not be carried off, was, in a fury of vandalism, destroyed and broken. The doors and windows of the houses were torn off their hinges and carried away or smashed to pieces. The rooms and cellars were literally ploughed up to see whether the substratum did not conceal some wealth.”
    Most Jews fled, some to their Muslim friends’ homes, others in the British consulate, on the terraces, and in mosques. Those few who stayed were injured or killed. Twelve were killed in the mêlée, another fifteen were stabbed or hit with bludgeons or bullets, and a further forty sustained minor injuries. Relief efforts for the Jews were organized by the Alliance Israélite Universelle, assisted by the British consul. Some local Muslims helped too, distributing bread, grapes, and money. One wealthy Muslim sent a ton of bread, the governor sent two tons, and the chief mufti a further 400 kilograms.

    The 1934 Thrace pogroms refers to a series of violent attacks against Jewish citizens of Turkey in June and July 1934 in the Thrace region of Turkey. The pogroms occurred in Tekirdağ, Edirne, Kırklareli, and Çanakkale, and were motivated by anti-Semitism. It was followed by vandalizing of Jewish houses and shops. The tensions started in June 1934 and spread to a few other villages in Eastern Thrace region and to some small cities in Western Aegean region. At the height of violent events, it was rumoured that a rabbi was stripped naked and was dragged through the streets shamefully while his daughter was raped. Over 15,000 Jews had to flee from the region. According to historian Rifat Bali that the incitement against Jews was common in the Turkish press at the time and this contributed to the violence.

    Also this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Safed_riots

  337. Malla says:
    @Talha

    In fact, the whole issue of Israel cannot be divorced from the influx of masses of Jews into that territory after the second World War.

    Yes but the concept of Zionism, the Balfour Declaration etc…predate the rise of Hitler and WW2 by century or more . We can see an intention for the creation of Israel way before WW2.

    if some people within a minority population cause a problem to your society, you have to distinguish between those that are part of the problem and those that are not.

    This is not only true for minority communities but for all communities. But it is not only Jews who are victims of this. For example when “Judea declared War on Germany” they did not declare war on “Bad Germans” or “anti-Semitic Germans” but all Germans. When ex colonials blame say the British for colonialism, they blame all Britons even descendants of impoverished mine workers for example for colonialism while only a tiny number of Britons were involved in the Empire business. No they blame all Britons. They say all Britons have to somehow pay via allowing immigration. This is not common only to Jews or minorities, it is just tribal human nature.
    Also Hitler wanted to make out in between Good Jews and Bad Jews too. 200000 Jews fought for his Third Reich. How did that happen?
    Not only that there were Arab Muslims, Indians, Central Asians, East Asians and even a few Blacks fighting for the Third Reich, many in the Waffen SS.

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  338. frankie p says:
    @Talha

    Talha,

    I’m aware that your views on pogroms and the indiscriminate punishment of the innocent come from Islamic jurisprudence. It’s a view that I share, though not from the same source, being that I’m only superficially aware of Islamic jurisprudence. So we are in agreement on this issue, but I fear that it’s not such a black and white issue, as many in the minority group who would appear innocent have both benefited from the violation of the rules by their co-ethnics and have supported their co-ethnics in the disenfranchisement of the indigenous majority. And so they are attacked and exiled with the rest. I guess another phenomenon that added to the punishment of the entire community is the fact that the community chose to live as a people apart, and the local majority could not always distinguish between the guilty and the innocent, though I agree that they should.

    Regarding your comments on the never-ending cycle in front of us and the lack of escape in the paradigm, I don’t really know what to say. Men make history. In-groups have historically and traditionally taken action to defend and protect their own interests. I believe that God made humans this way.

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  339. christine says:
    @Talha

    ‘there seems to be no escape in the paradigm you are outlining’

    A paradigm can shift massively and away from evil, even if only one in 8 billion knows about it.

  340. Malla says:
    @Malla

    Yes but the concept of Zionism, the Balfour Declaration etc…predate the rise of Hitler and WW2 by century or more

    ooops, I means Zionism was much older than Hitler’s rise, Balfour Declaration was just a few decades older than Hitler’s rise.

  341. Robjil says:
    @Talha

    99 percent. Also total.

    The “Big Things Matter” BTM like getting the Balfour WWI, Israel WWII and the Seven Nations to Destroy WWIII.

    Eisenhower and Kennedy were the last presidents who tried to get some wiggle room from the Zionists overseers.

    Eisenhower is well know for following orders from Zionists for treating millions of German prisoners brutally after the war. He did stop it because of the massive overflow of 13-15 million fleeing from ex- German lands in the East and German speaking regions in Eastern Europe. The Zionists must have been upset about his stopping it.

    https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/was-it-a-war-crime-thousands-of-germans-died-in-american-pow-camps-in1945-m.html

    Their first conclusion was in line with Bacque: that German prisoners were beaten, had water, food and mail withheld, and lived in exposed, over-crowded conditions. However, on almost everything else, they disagreed with Bacque. As Bacque claims that Eisenhower hated and wished to punish Germans, the conference cites numerous sources that show a true effort to rebuild Germany. An understanding of the difference between the German people and the Nazi’s that committed atrocious crimes, and that most of the policies that can be construed as vengeful came from higher up in U.S. Command than Eisenhower.

    They did find that rations were kept frighteningly low for the DEFs and that the Americans did, in fact, prevent Red Cross aid and inspection of the camps. They find this more understandable in the greater context, however.

    In April 1945, Eisenhower wrote to the Combined Chiefs of Staff of the Western Allies that the food situation in Germany was going to be desperate and that much needed to be done, and fast, to prevent starvation and chaos throughout the country. As Germany surrendered, and the occupation began, more slave laborers were freed than expected, more German soldiers surrendered than were expected as well, and around 13 million German civilians fled from the Russian occupied zone into the West.

  342. Talha says:
    @Malla

    And as far as pogroms, the Middle East and North Africa did have their own list of anti-Jewish riots and pogroms by both Muslims and non Muslims. But overall it is true that Jews were better off in the Middle East rather than Europe.

    Correct – even if you are quoting at length from Wikipedia. One thing you don’t see when these did occur in Muslim lands is Jews then fleeing to Europe. Some would move to another part of the Muslim world where it was more stable, but movement in the opposite direction was rare.

    And it is just as wrong when done by Muslims as when done in Europe.

    I recall reading of how the great Maliki scholar and Sufi, Sidi Ahmad Zarruq (ra), denounced an earlier one in Fez, Morocco – to the Jewish community who had settled there from Spain – during a time of political upheaval (that’s often when these occurred in the Middle East, as part of a larger conflict, as in the many examples you cite) but he himself was forced out into exile and called a crypto-Jew:
    “What is clear, however, is that the anti-Jewish rhetoric of the revolutionaries was strong enough that anyone who opposed their political agenda of jihad and revolution against the Marinid Dynasty was accused of ‘being a Jew.’ This accusation was leveled against Ahmad Zarruq in his youth. Zarruq believed that Islamic law required continuity of legitimacy of the government against revolutionary change; he believed it also required the protection of religious minorities (dhimmi) living as citizens under such a legitimate Islamic government. When he spoke out openly against the sharifian revolution, even refusing to pray behind its leaders, he was driven from Fez under the shadow of the accusation of ‘being a Jew’ and not a Muslim.”
    Rebel Between Spirit and Law: Ahmad Zarruq, Sainthood, and Authority in Islam

    Sidi Ahmad Zarruq (ra) went on to become the head of the Maliki department at al-Azhar in Cairo.

    Peace.

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  343. Talha says:
    @Malla

    None of what you wrote contradicts anything I wrote at all. In fact, mentioning the “Russian Jewish Rabbinical leadership” and “European Jews” supports what I said, that this originated in Europe.

    I recall watching a documentary a while back in which the Zionists from Europe were quoted as being frustrated by the Jews of the Middle East because they weren’t interested in their vision. Chaim Weisman tried to recruit the Jews of Egypt to the Zionist plan and came to the conclusion that the Jews of Egypt are hopeless and they are like the Copts and Muslims of Egypt, spending their time in their houses of worship. And that the rich Jews were worried this would be the end of Jewish business in Egypt.

    Yes but the concept of Zionism, the Balfour Declaration etc…predate the rise of Hitler and WW2 by century or more

    This also doesn’t contradict what I said:
    “…the whole issue of Israel cannot be divorced from the influx of masses of Jews into that territory after the second World War.”

    Peace.

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  344. Talha says:
    @frankie p

    the local majority could not always distinguish between the guilty and the innocent, though I agree that they should.

    I think this should be integral to the starting point of any conversation on the matter; one must put in the effort to distinguish between the guilty and the innocent. Morality and the rule of law dictate this – and this would help to break the cycle that I spoke about. If this is done right, then legal precedents can be set and laws can be clearly drafted to hopefully prevent the paradigm from arising again at bringing things to a crescendo.

    In-groups have historically and traditionally taken action to defend and protect their own interests. I believe that God made humans this way.

    Sure, but He also gave us guidance about the necessity to protect the innocent from intentional harm to the degree that we can. So there is a balance to be sought in the matter…part of being human.

    Peace.

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  345. Malla says:
    @Talha

    One thing you don’t see when these did occur in Muslim lands is Jews then fleeing to Europe. Some would move to another part of the Muslim world where it was more stable, but movement in the opposite direction was rare.

    Yes that is true. At least before the 20th century.

    Thanks for the information about Sidi Ahmad Zarruq .
    Peace.

  346. Robjil says:
    @Talha

    Almost everyone forgets Poland when speaking of Jewish cultures of the past. Why are there so many Ashkenazi Jews in the world? There must be some reason for this. It is very little talked about in our “free” Zion press.

    http://www.jjtravelinisrael.com/phase-3-poland-the-paradise-of-the-jews-1264-1772/

    As the Jews began moving out of Spain to many countries in western Europe, the more fortunate ones discovered Poland and Lithuania and enjoyed a tolerance unknown by the Jews in other parts of medieval Europe. In 1264, Boleslaw the Pious (the Duke of Greater Poland) issued the Statute of Kalisz, thereby allowing Jews to:

    settle in Poland
    freely practice Judaism
    enjoy governmental protection from harm
    engage and prosper in various occupations

    Later rulers such as Casimir the Great in Poland (1334) and Vytautas in Lithuania (1388-1389), issued similar decrees. In 1385, Poland and Lithuania formed a de-facto union and in 1569 the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was officially established. According to present-day borders, this included not only all of Poland and Lithuania, but also all of Belarus, Moldova, most of Ukraine and portions of Latvia, Estonia and the western border of Russia. Poland’s political and cultural prominence resulted in the in the commonwealth eventually being simply referred to as Poland.

    • Replies: @Talha
  347. Malla says:
    @Talha

    supports what I said, that this originated in Europe.

    Yes, I understand now. In that way it did start in Europe.

    Jews of the Middle East because they weren’t interested in their vision. Chaim Weisman tried to recruit the Jews of Egypt to the Zionist plan and came to the conclusion that the Jews of Egypt are hopeless and they are like the Copts and Muslims of Egypt,

    LOL, I am not surprised. There were old Jewish communities living in Palestine, who did not agree with the Zionist project let alone Egypt.

    “…the whole issue of Israel cannot be divorced from the influx of masses of Jews into that territory after the second World War.”

    Yes, in a way you are right. Douglas Reed did mention how the Communist nations of the East opened up and allowed streams of Jews to go to Palestine. It is not much reported but just after WW2, it seems like loads of Jewish “Refugees” were magically allowed by Communist Bloc countries to literally walk their way to the Middle East or till Southern Europe to reach Israel by ship. You know how hard it was to escape from those Communist countries for most common folks, Berlin Wall and all. It was like the refugee migration of the last few years from the middle East to Europe but in reverse.
    Peace

  348. KA says:
    @Malla

    Let’s stop here moron
    I will wait until you bring the quotes from the reliable sources .
    I have given you some from university of Penn , from Arizona , from Benares
    I have a few more .

    Now stop whining
    Learn . Reach out for information that separates glorified storied panegyrics of yours from thoughtful researched ,analyzed findings and data.

    There is no shame in self correction .

    ( next time you post , add some spice like bragging a of the Muslim courtesans )

    Tulsidas took shelter in a mosque to escape the wrath of the Brahmin ( Indian Express ) and never wrote about Ram Mandir getting gutted by Babur ( Indian express 4th Dec 2019)
    When this fact emerged , some Hindus got into action and added some material to claim Ram was born there and Ram Mandir once had stood there ( Quora chat room ) ! That is Indian history .
    Name of Mumbai traces its origin to 4 different sources . One affirming peculiar origin- same conflation ! A tyrannical Muslim king getting killed by Hindu goddess who then combines her achievement and the Muslim king’s name . She then finds her glorification in a Sanskrit Purana ( JSTOR ) chronicling the myth as history .

    • Replies: @Malla
  349. @Talha

    Agreed. In geopolitics nobody can be trusted. It’s a backstabbing business. Or even politics in general.

  350. @Taxi

    Thanks for the reply Taxi. The reason why I “assumed” you were a male are twofold.
    First the name “taxi” made me think you were a male taxi driver (part time maybe) some where in the Middle East with your eyes & ears on the ground. lol. I screwed that one up, eh? 😁 😂 🤣

    Secondly, the way you write with purpose & conviction…well, I don’t see too many women writing like that because most of them are not concerned or interested in this type of serious geopolitics — especially an article about Hezbollah. So please forgive me.
    I am still surprised which shows that more women need to take up the mantle & write the way you do instead of getting caught up in destructive SJW programming that is used to divide both sexes. My other favourite alt-News female journalist is Australia’s Caitlin Johnstone. I believe she has articles her on Unz too as well as The Burning Platform, Consortium News among other well-known alt-News sites.

    That’s why I mentioned the new #SYSBM movement to you since there is a very BIG manufactured conflict between black men & black women right now in the West, by design, to weaken our communities. Black women ARE the “face” of the “black community” in the Democratic party, so they get the top positions because they’re, unfortunately, easier to corrupt & they can fill their minority quotas at the same time. See Susan Rice, Donna Brazille, Kamala, Maxine Waters, Loretta Lynch (former AG), etc. And look at the record number of black female mayors today. The sistas are more compliant to the Establishment whereas the principled black men don’t get those nice cushy jobs so they shy away from or assassinate them like Malcolm X, MLK, etc. because they speak with conviction & universal brotherhood.

    Anywho, I’m actually more impressed that u are a woman because women make up half of society’s population but they seem to be dearly missing in the alt-News blogosphere on the level of a Caitlin Johnstone. This is by far one of her most hard-hitting pieces:

    Bolivia Shows Why Imperialists Work To Keep Populations Propagandized
    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/20/bolivia-shows-why-imperialists-work-to-keep-populations-propagandized/

    • Replies: @Toni
  351. @Metropole

    Yes. I was going to say that Franklin Ryckaert’s antisemitic credentials are impeccable … but …

    I didn’t get the impression that he was justifying Israelis but just stating the facts: that if threatened or attacked they will defend themselves, just as anyone else would, regardless of the fact whether their occupation of Palestine is justified or not. Of course we know they prefer to defend themselves by attacking or by using others like US and NATO to do much of their dirty work. Perhaps he didn’t express himself clearly enough to please some of the commenters here. Anyway he’s also anti-Muslim and that riles the Islamophiles. And by anti-Muslim I mean that he doesn’t want Muslims in the West – he doesn’t much care what they get up to on their own countries. That’s my impression anyway. And I think that he is a bit naive about these peace initiatives between some Arab states and Israel, and maybe hopeful that if this could stop their wars it would reduce the influx of refugees and perhaps even motivate some Jews and Arabs to return to the Middle East to enjoy the new found peace and prosperity. I mean that he cares about his own Europeans first and foremost and tries to see what developments could best serve their self-preservation.

    And it’s ridiculous to accuse all and sundry who one disagrees with of being a Jew, Zionist, hasbara. And using “Jew” as an insult … some people can’t help being Jews, it’s how they were born.

    • Replies: @Metropole
    , @L.K
  352. @Hiram of Tyre

    The UN tribunal found in August 2020 that a Hezbollah commander was responsible for the killing.

    Really this whole article is fanciful wishful thinking. I understand why people don’t like Israel, but just because Hezbollah is their most competent enemy doesn’t mean they’re morally infallible or have never committed terrorist acts or war crimes. The real world isn’t like that. There are no good guys.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Taxi
  353. @MEexpert

    Virtually all of the Twelve Imams were born to mothers who were sexual slaves, AKA concubines, which is perfectly acceptable under Islamic law. I don’t think these are great role models.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
  354. @Talha

    A 3-way Mexican standoff like at the end of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. But who is who? Each to his own.

    • LOL: Talha
  355. @Colin Wright

    Look up the Ottoman and Arabic slave trades. Islam was fundamental in justifying the raiding of non-Muslim lands for slaves, particularly sexual slaves. There is no equivalent to this in Christian history.

    • Replies: @Anon
  356. christine says:
    @Talha

    ‘He also gave us guidance’.

    Don’t believe all that herstory you read about and believe me god is no he.

    And that cycle you speak of was broken not long after Mayan 21/12/12 but no disrespect meant, i wouldn’t expect a spiritual know nothing like you to even begin to understand.

    Row row row your boat gently down the stream.

    • Replies: @Talha
  357. christine says:
    @ariadna

    Spiritual numpty of the highest order

    • Troll: Iris, ariadna
  358. Anon[726] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    Harriri was killed by Israel
    Initial investigation by Olie Honleihen was sham
    He is now one off the signatories to the campaign for elimination of Iran

    People testified for him found unreliable and were bribed

    ( Israel is unique
    It invents crimes like Letter Bombs and delivers them to office of Churchill
    Truman
    and kills – Rex Farrier
    and kills British envoy

    Also hijacking

    On Dec. 12, 1954, Israeli warplanes forced a Syrian Airways Dakota passenger craft carrying four passengers and five crewmen to land at Lydda airport inside Israel. … Moshe Sharett, who as Israel’s foreign minister had to explain the incident to the international community, was privately appalled by it.
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  359. Malla says:
    @KA

    I will wait until you bring the quotes from the reliable sources

    Go and read the links I have given. If that is not reliable, noting is. From historians of those days.

    glorified storied panegyrics

    They are “glorified panegyrics” only because they do not suit your idiotic narrative? Listen childish boy, your logic is “if some historian says something I LIKE , well it is true. If I nor LIKE then I scream around ” dey b exaggerations, dey be lies””. No sane matured man can accept such childish logic.

    There is no shame in self correction .

    LOL, you are truly shameless. One of the most shameless person I have ever seen.

    Tulsidas took shelter in a mosque to escape the wrath of the Brahmin ( Indian Express ) and never wrote about Ram Mandir getting gutted by Babur ( Indian express 4th Dec 2019)
    When this fact emerged , some Hindus got into action and added some material to claim Ram was born there and Ram Mandir once had stood there ( Quora chat room ) ! That is Indian history .

    What does that have to do with anything? Read my post to Meena at 339. I have written that the narrative of a presence of a temple and its destruction in Ayodhya is highly doubtful. Unlike you, I do not throw around childish tantrums.

    A tyrannical Muslim king getting killed by Hindu goddess who then combines her achievement and the Muslim king’s name . She then finds her glorification in a Sanskrit Purana ( JSTOR ) chronicling the myth as history .

    Dude, do not compare Sanskrit Puranas with the writing of Islamic scholars. The first people to write proper history in India (after the Chinese and Greek travelers) were the Muslims, never us Hindus. Sanskrit Puranas are mostly made up bullshit by Brahmans with tits and bits of real history in them. Folks like Ibn Battuta were far far better and genuine history writers than Hindu Brahmans. When it comes to in history writing in India–Europeans>>Muslims>>>>>pre Islamic Hindus. Capice. Hindus only start writing proper history after the Islamic conquests.
    For example Mills writes
    It is allowed on all hands that no historical composition existed in the literature of the Hindus; they had not reached that point of intellectual maturity, at which the value of a record of the past for the guidance of the future begins to be understood. “The Hindus,” says that zealous and industrious Sanskrit scholar, Mr. Wilford, “have no ancient civil history.” Remarking a coincidence in this characteristic circumstance between them and another ancient people, he adds, “Nor had the Egyptians any work purely historical.” Major Rennel says, that, founded on Hindu materials, there is no known history of Hindustan, nor any record of the historical events of that country prior to the Mahomedan conquests; and since that period, it is not to Hindu, but Mahomedan pens that we are indebted for all our knowledge of the Mahomedan conquests, and of the events which preceded the passage to India, by the Cape of Good Hope. An inclination at first appeared among [61] the warm admirers of Sanscrit to regard the poems Mahabharat and Ramayan, as a sort of historical records. A more intimate acquaintance with those [62] grotesque productions has demonstrated the impossibility of reconciling them with the order of human affairs, and, as the only expedient to soften the deformities in which they abound, suggested a theory that they are allegorical.

    • Replies: @KA
    , @KA
  360. @Anon

    Hariri’s sons Saad and Bahaa both seem to believe Hezbollah was behind the murder. The UN tribunal found that Hezbollah commander Salim Ayyash was guilty of the assassination. It really strains credibility to try to maintain Hezbollah’s innocence in the face of this.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
    , @Taxi
    , @anon
  361. Metropole says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Isn’t it the height of hypocrisy for someone who hates Jews to become an enthusiastic supporter of Israel in the hope that all Jews will go there?

    At the same time the person purports to be a defender of Christianity while forgetting the concept of “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Zionist-Christians seem to have no upper limit to the number of Muslims they would be happy to kill in their support for Israel.

    Isn’t it better and more doable for 6 million Jews of Israel to be given US or EU citizenship and be encouraged to move back wherever they want? After all, ethnically and culturally they are Europeans and, leaving aside a few anti-Semites, the people of the West love them passionately.

    To further encourage them to move, if every Israeli were given $1 million to move back to the lands of milk and honey, that would only add up to $6 trillion. That’s a bargain compared to the amount the West has already spent killing Muslims and peanuts compared to the cost of WW3 or Armageddon.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @L.K
  362. magnumtd says:
    @Taxi

    Ouch ! But absolutely accurate. Eloquently stated…sort of…

  363. KA says:
    @Malla

    If all Donner means to affirm is that the Muslim conquests were relatively swift and surgical operations that left urban life, religious communities, and complex organization intact, then he is simply affirming the conventional view.

    What Donner turns out to mean is simply the well-known fact that the Muslims did not engage in systematic destruction of towns, churches, and other religious buildings, and that they were not out to impose their religion by force.” 

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/among-the-believers .
    by Patricia Crone is a professor of Islamic history at the Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton.

    (Bold and italics -mine)

    • Replies: @Talha
  364. KA says:
    @Malla

    1 One of the foundational premises of the Hindutva view of the past is derived from Mill’s division of Indian history ……on the basis of the religion of the ruling dynasties – a division that sought to drive a wedge between Hindus and Muslims. This periodisation received much support from H.M. Elliot and John Dowson’s ………that put together the faulty and biased translations of Persian chronicles and overstated the dark side of Muslim rule, with the clear intent of inflaming passions between the two communities, which was important for British imperial policy, especially after 1857. Through the works of subsequent writers, especially Vincent Smith, Mill’s chronological scheme became widely accepted and remained firmly entrenched in Indian historical writings throughout the colonial period, continuing to influence historical studies in Indian universities in our own time.

    2 Thus, the members of the Sangh Parivar have been perpetuating the colonial view of Indian history. But they never tire of describing as “Macaulay’s children” those historians who have jettisoned the clichés created by the imperialist historians. They need to be reminded of their own pedigree. They are the children of Mill, Olcott, and Elliot and Dowson. What a distinguished multiple paternity indeed!

    https://thewire.in/history/how-hindutva-historiography-is-rooted-in-the-colonial-view-of-indian-history

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  365. KA says:

    There is no doubt that the Muslim rulers destroyed Hindu temples. But we should remember that Hindus are more notorious in destroying the temples or places of worship. It can be proved that they destroyed innumerable religious establishments of Jains and Buddhists. Certainly it is a matter to be researched – who destroyed how many temples in the country.
    There is not much evidence of communal conflict in medieval India.

    https://thewire.in/communalism/ayodhya-verdict-babri-masjid-ram-temple-dn-jha

  366. Talha says:
    @christine

    believe me god is no he.

    Agreed, the Divine has no gender or sex, but – unfortunately – using the genderless pronoun “It” is not generally accepted as a way to talk about the Divine in the English language.

    know nothing like you to even begin to understand.

    You and my wife would get along well.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @christine
  367. @Metropole

    Isn’t it the height of hypocrisy for someone who hates Jews to become an enthusiastic supporter of Israel in the hope that all Jews will go there?

    I don’t know if it’s hypocrisy but that’s how some feel. Remember the Nazi-Zionist cooperation to resettle Jews in Palestine before WWII.

    At the same time the person purports to be a defender of Christianity while forgetting the concept of “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

    I thought the Christian principle was “Don’t do unto others what you don’t like others to do unto you”. But in reality it can turn into “Do unto others as they do unto you” unless you want to lose in a conflict with enemies.

    Isn’t it better and more doable for 6 million Jews of Israel to be given US or EU citizenship and be encouraged to move back wherever they want?

    Many are dual citizens already.

    After all, ethnically and culturally they are Europeans and, leaving aside a few anti-Semites, the people of the West love them passionately.

    I’m not sure about that. Historically it’s been a rocky relationship, and nowadays many Europeans are brainwashed about the role of Jews in their society and blind to their pernicious influence.

    To further encourage them to move, if every Israeli were given $1 million to move back to the lands of milk and honey, that would only add up to $6 trillion. That’s a bargain compared to the amount the West has already spent killing Muslims and peanuts compared to the cost of WW3 or Armageddon.

    Not a bad idea but knowing them they’d just take the money and still stay. The only way they’d leave is if they got kicked out as has been the case through most of history. Sort of “The bullet or the road”. But at the moment Israel, Zionists and Jews have the upper hand as their power and influence has been growing since the breakup of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Block, then even more since 911 and the wars on Iraq, Libya, etc. which have all weakened the support for the Palestinians.

  368. KA says:

    “Prominent historian DN Jha, an expert in India’s ancient and medieval past, in his new book, “Against the Grain: Notes on Identity, Intolerance and History”, ….The book says, “Central to (Hindutva) perception is the belief that Muslim rulers indiscriminately demolished Hindu temples and broke Hindu idols. They relentlessly propagate the canard that 60,000 Hindu temples were demolished during Muslim rule, though there is hardly any credible evidence for the destruction of more than 80 of them.”

    https://www.counterview.net/2018/06/buddhist-shrines-massively-destroyed-by.html

    https://caravanmagazine.in/reviews-and-essays/dn-jha-destruction-buddhist-sites

    “On the other hand, even a cursory survey of historical evidence shows that the demolition and desecration of rival religious establishments, and the appropriation of their idols, was not uncommon in India before the advent of Islam.

    There existed many Brahminical and non-Brahminical religions and their sects in ancient India. Their adherents we
    Here, I present a limited survey of the desecration, destruction and appropriation of Buddhist stupas, monasteries and other structures by Brahminical forces.

    Evidence for such destruction dates as far back as the end of the reign of Ashoka,–” https://www.magzter.com/article/News/The-Caravan/Monumental-Absence

    Mythical Islamic destruction is the superb artful projection of the real history of the demolition, desecration and usurpation of the ancient sites, temples culture and religion by the Hindu onto the minds of the masses popularized by the Hinduvatta from early 1900 started by British out of pure hatred of the Islam ,need to isolate the 2 communities, and .create division for the purpose of administration

  369. Talha says:
    @KA

    This was regarding the early Muslim conquests of the Rashidun (who – thank God – are the ones by which praxis is defined and others are measured up to).

    Later conquests did involve quite a bit of bloodshed and destruction. I’ve read various materials on the Muslim conquest of India which was done mostly under various Persianized Turkic or Turco-Afghan peoples who tended to be – like their steppe nomad counterparts (the Mongols) – fairly violent in their invasions.

    A few points to add to this conversation, and I’ll bow out of further discussion on this particular side topic:
    1. Prof. Eaton is a very credible source of information, but I think his number is quite conservative since he has a high bar of demand (at the forensic level) for the temple destructions (which was also done between various Hindu kings – it was kind of how you let the other guy know who was in charge since the temple was often his property or founded by him). The numbers of medieval historians always has to be taken with a quite a bit of salt. The numbers lie somewhere in the middle. Where exactly? Doubt we’ll ever know.
    2. Those same Turkic Muslims were instrumental in keeping the Mongol hordes out of India and repelled multiple invasions which saved India from what could easily have been even more vast destruction.
    3. Many local Hindu rulers, generals, armies, mercenaries joined sides with the Muslim armies from the beginning – this is also meticulously recorded by Muslim historians.
    4. If Tamerlane, a Muslim, (who invaded only the north of India and sacked Delhi) would have invaded further into India – it would have been far worse.

    Summary of Muslim conquests of India, from my perspective?

    Fairly bloody compared to the earlier conquests. It should be forgotten also that this was one of the major conquests of a region with pagan peoples as compared to earlier conquests that were more in mostly People-of-the-Book territory. Medieval Muslim rulers historically treated the subject populations differently; those are just facts.

    All in all, a general failure as compared to the successful introduction of Islam into the similar Buddhist/Hindu environment of Malaysia and Indonesia which was done without any invading armies. Likewise, the Muslim population on the southern Malabar coastline in the state of Kerala where they form almost 30% of the population and where Islam was brought in via the Indian Ocean trade routes and some of the most ancients mosques exist (which also – importantly – look native as opposed to mosques in other regions which look like Persian imports):

    https://www.behance.net/gallery/31108121/Early-Mosques-of-Malabar

    As Prof. Eaton himself stated:
    “…those regions where the most dramatic Islamization occurred, such as eastern Bengal or western Punjab, lay on the fringes of Indo-Muslim rule, where the ‘sword’ was weakest, and where brute force could have exerted the least influence. In such regions the first accurate census reports put the Muslim population at between 70 and 90 percent of the total, whereas in the heartland of Muslim rule in the upper Gangetic Plain—the domain of the Delhi Fort and the Taj Mahal, where Muslim regimes had ruled the most intensively and for the longest period of time—the Muslim population ranged from only 10 to 15 percent. In other words, in the subcontinent as a whole there is an inverse relationship between the degree of Muslim political penetration and the degree of Islamization. Even within Bengal this principle holds true.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @KA
    , @KA
    , @Malla
  370. L.K says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I didn’t get the impression that he was justifying Israelis but just stating the facts

    Pouring out Israeli PROPAGANDA is hardly stating “the facts”.

    Ain’t nothing naive about old boy Franklin. The guy is just a LIAR.

    BTW, defending Israel and Zionism by using every trick from their propaganda mills is hardly the only thing that stinks about Franklin…

    He is a big defender of the holocaust propaganda narrative, and the fraudulent WW2 narrative more broadly, always citing and quoting from… WIKIPEDIA.

    Does this “anti-Semitic” Dutch “white nationalist” also abundantly use Wikipedia to make his case in favor of white nationalism or on the deleterious behavior of Jews?

    You are the naive one.

    • Agree: Iris
  371. L.K says:
    @Metropole

    Isn’t it the height of hypocrisy for someone who hates Jews to become an enthusiastic supporter of Israel in the hope that all Jews will go there?

    Indeed. Even more so when said individual deploys every Zionist propaganda trick in the book to justify Israeli behavior and demonize those who, instead of folding, have been resisting Israeli aggression, be them Palestinians, Hezbollah, Iran, etc.

    And what’s the point anyway? More Jews live in the West than in Israel and that is not going to change.
    But even if, say, 2/3 of American Jews, biggest Diaspora in the West, were to move to Israel, their power and influence in the US and the West would not diminish at all.

    The best outcome is the one State solution and the consequent dissolution of Zionist ideology.
    One country for all of its inhabitants, the original people, the Palestinians, and the Jewish immigrants.
    Ain’t that what Jewish activist organizations preach in Western countries anyway?

    The end of “Israel” as a Zionist Entity would not mean an end to Jewish power and influence in the West, but would be a step in the direction of reducing the Zionist gangster’s manipulative geopolitical games, which are so destructive, not only to the great ME region, but to the world.
    Think, for ex, of all the refugees who have flocked from the Zionist manufactured “War on Terror” hit countries into Western nations.

    • Thanks: Iris
  372. MEexpert says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    Virtually all of the Twelve Imams were born to mothers who were sexual slaves, AKA concubines, which is perfectly acceptable under Islamic law. I don’t think these are great role models.

    Either you are a moron or totally ignorant, which is the saame thing. You know nothing who the imams are. Give me your sources where you got this incredible discovery.

    • Replies: @Vehmic Juryman
  373. MEexpert says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    Hariri’s sons Saad and Bahaa both seem to believe Hezbollah was behind the murder.

    That is to be expected. They hate Hezbollah.

    The UN tribunal found that Hezbollah commander Salim Ayyash was guilty of the assassination.

    UN was forced to rule that way to divert the blame from the real culprit; Israel. The MO of Hariri’s assassination was 100% Israeli. Do you think the UN has the balls to indict Israel for this crime, specially Israel’s God father, the US, watching over the tribunal.

    • Agree: L.K
    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Vehmic Juryman
  374. Talha says:
    @Robjil

    Yes, thanks for this. Poland was also a place where many Jews fled from one place in Europe to another. Poland was certainly more open to them and they fared better than other places.

    Peace.

  375. @Taxi

    Here is what I am talking about Taxi. 60 people involved in the Mosad killing of the Iranian scientist. The entire power grid was knocked out. The killed the scientist and disappeared into space.
    You are playing checkers with people that play 3d chess good luck with your nukes and Jihad. Hezbollah is not going to defeat Israel.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8997575/Assassination-Irans-nuclear-scientist-involved-62-people-including-12-gunmen.html?ito=whatsapp_share_article-masthead

    • Replies: @Iris
  376. Iris says:
    @Fran Taubman

    This is old news, Taubman, and has been loudly bragged about by Zionist mouthpieces the Sunday Times and the Daily Mail, so it must be taken with a big pinch of salt.
    https://www.unz.com/ldinh/next-month-in-jerusalem/#comment-4313152

    Mehr News agency is now saying that the main firing was automated and carried from a Nissan van whose owner left the country in October 2020.

    Other reports state the assassination was a complex operation that would have involved several Western intelligence services.

    It is very possible to remotely kill somebody from a stationary vehicle, basically a stationed drone, which would be typical of Israeli cowardice relying on US technology.

    The 12 gunmen story is very possibly a fabricated spin, destined to provoke Iran into responding to an unsubstantiated story and hence create apparent pretexts to cover up another Israeli false flag.

  377. KA says:
    @Talha

    I have never claimed that “Islamic” rules of the hybrid Indinazed muslim of Turko-Perrsian-Afghan orgin was benign. non-violent or secular . But did it veer too far from the existing Indian mores ? I dont think so .
    Its valid to raise the question if the Buddhist and Jain suffered more under the Brahminical religious sects than the Hindus suffered under Islamic rule? At one time they were the majority of the Indian population -both in south and in midland and north and east .In reality Buddhism and Jainism arrived to South India before Brahminical religion made any inroads . Buddhism arose in Mgadha region known as “Land of the Demon” to the Aryan grammar man- Patanjali . It was not part of the area known as “Land of Aryabhatta”.
    After 3 centuries ,the land would be part of “Aryabhatta” where Brahmins occupied an exalted powerful position.

    The disappearance of Buddhism from the heartland and from the coast of India by 1o th century and reduction of Jainism to an appendage of Hinduism by 13 -14 th century with the historical evidences of the destruction of the Buddhist places- religious, secular -provides the and composition of the religious texts describing the Buddhist in the worst words possible point to the coordinated violent attacks by the ruling classes and by the Brahminical ideologues and the clerics. These wars of aggression have provided the material of many folklores, Purana, “Kabbya “( poetry ), and the fresco on the walls of the Hindu religious buildings .

    Despite claim of muslim not coming in contact with cave temples , muslim invaders did come and saw the Khajuraho but didn’t bother to destroy the cave temple because it did not signify a challenge or subordination and did not offer jewelry .

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Malla
  378. Iris says:
    @MEexpert

    The MO of Hariri’s assassination was 100% Israeli.

    The MO of President Hariri’s assassination was described in detail by author Imran Adham, in his book “American Hypocrisy“. Adham is of Syrian descent, holds French nationality and is an opponent to the Syrian government.

    Adham got confidential information regarding the assassination, including from former CIA officer John Perkins. Here is a broad translation from page 78 of his book:

    Then he says: I begin with the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, a case that is still open at the Special Tribunal for Lebanon.
    John Perkins, a senior CIA official (before his retirement), told me the whole story and told the story on his own and said: The small-scale missile launched from the sea towards the motorcade of President Rafik Hariri, contained enriched uranium, which has a high destructive capability. This type of missile is owned only by the United States, Germany and Israel.

    Hariri’s head of security was code-named as “Zero Hour.” Because he was part of the assassination plot, he refrained from accompanying Hariri when he was preparing to move from the House of Representatives to his house in Qureitam; he also was the one who instructed the motorcade to take the fatal sea route on the way back.

    Perkins then added: “The U.S. and Israeli satellites filmed the assassination in great details, as did Israeli helicopter that was in the air along the Lebanese coast and was monitoring the operation. The U.S. administration has refused to have a Lebanese commission of inquiry investigate the operation.

    In order to fabricate the charges, The German investigator Detlev Mehlis was chosen to head an international commission of inquiry, which was approved by UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

    “By the way, Hariri’s car was equipped with advanced technical monitoring devices that no country, except the United States and Israel, could disable, this mission of deactivation was assigned to the Israeli ship, which was stationed on the border of Lebanese territorial waters, supported by an American AWACS aircraft and an Israeli helicopter,” Perkins said.

    “The Swedish investigator in the international court staff, Bo Astrom, the chief investigator and deputy head of the investigation team, said that the Israelis and Americans refused to provide the investigation with satellite imagery, which has important implications that Washington does not want to contribute to the truth, and the U.S. government claimed that technical problems occurred to the satellite during the Hariri assassination, and that’s why we didn’t get any vital information,” said Astrom.

    This information is supported by Thierry Meyssan’s very early claim that Detley Mehlis’ role was about concealing that the missile that killed Hariri was German-made. Germany, among other things, provides weaponry and nuclear submarines to Israel as WW2 “reparations”.
    https://www.voltairenet.org/article167553.html

  379. @MEexpert

    I know exactly who the Twelve Imams were my ignorant friend.

    “Al-Askari’s mother, as in the case of most of The Twelve Imams, was a slave girl who was honoured after bearing children with the title umm walad (mother of offspring).”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_al-Askari

    It was the same with the Ottoman sultans who refused to marry free women and only had children with slaves. Islam is a cult largely motivated by the desire to sexually enslave women. Sexual slavery is ubiquitous through Islamic history.

    • Troll: RedpilledAF
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  380. @MEexpert

    Yeah I would hate the group that murdered my father too.

    The UN frequently condemns Israel. And the verdict was based on good evidence. Not every bad thing in the world can just be reduced to da joos

    • Troll: Iris, RedpilledAF
    • Replies: @MEexpert
  381. Talha says:
    @KA

    After 3 centuries ,the land would be part of “Aryabhatta” where Brahmins occupied an exalted powerful position.

    Some of the points you mention about Brahmins reminds me of an article I read a while ago, it may be of interest to you:
    “Buddhism was wiped out from the land in the process and all the other religious traditions, from animism to atheism, came to be lumped under the umbrella of Hinduism, a religion that had neither a prophet nor a scripture.”
    https://www.forwardpress.in/2016/01/brahmanism-and-shramanism/

    I’m not too familiar with India’s history before the arrival of Muslim armies, but this professor, Ram Puniyani, seems to agree with a lot of your conclusions.

    Peace.

  382. KA says:
    @Talha

    Goddess encounters: Mughals, Monsters and the Goddess in Bengal
    KUMKUM CHATTERJEE
    Modern Asian Studies
    Vol. 47, No. 5 (SEPTEMBER 2013), pp. 1435-1487 (53 pages)
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/24494217

    A quick read of the article and a focussed look at page 1445 show how the muslim rulers whose ancestry came from local Hindu noble under the muslim rule often combined components of various facets of Hinduism to acquire establish ,consolidate and project power . Islam among the kings was already diluted .

    The article also point to the normative Hindu zeitgeist of associating particular deity, temples, and images with conquests and the winner of the war and subsequently with the new administration . Not only the acquisition but also the longevity prosperity and preservation were associated with certain deity or deities . When rebellion broke out against muslim king or chief, it used to take the form of religious fights , rebellion used to be energized by the power of the local Goddess .

    [ The notable feature was that another Hindu nobility could claim , rebel and win in the name of another local or imported deity . The war then would seal not only the fate of the contending antagonists but also the fate of the deity who would be either worshipped or destroyed depending on the winner . Temple desecration and destruction were par the course ,not exception .

    Often the rebellion against muslim kings at central or peripheral level by Hindu chieftain or nobility used to be undertaken in pure religious terms ,tapping the energy support and emotional sinews from the local religious beliefs, practices, and images . Nothing wrong with this . But in this case religious symbols become symbols of threat ,resistance, rebellion ,and disobedience rendering it to examination judgment and to corrective measures . Muslims were guilty So were back then the local Hindu rulers and long after the British who would prevent the public display of religion in India after 1900 and would ban Gita’s quotes . After 2001 Islam has faced similar pressures from the war on the terror . I am not saying that they are identical but they do share some common angles. Unfortunately in post -independence India the religion deity and the temples have come to be used not against foreigners but against history and from there by extension to the local muslims ,and by not king or queen but by the elected rulers often elected on the vitriolic partisan religious planks against he marginalized Muslims . ]

    • Replies: @Talha
  383. Talha says:
    @KA

    Very interesting reference, thanks! I will see what else this academic has written on this subject.

    Peace.

  384. Taxi says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    I don’t know where you get the “Hezbollah commander” from – oh right from the jewy msm. Salim Ayyash was a government first responder working as a fireman and his link to Hezbollah is that he is also on their volunteer list of first responders in Dahyeh (like tens of thousands of other Lebanese). He is neither a “commander” nor an official member of the Hezbollah. And in any case, he is clearly the fall guy in this kangaroo court. Plus if you recall, the Hezbollah itself was NOT indicted by the silly court.

    • Replies: @Vehmic Juryman
  385. anon[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    The 2001 Mexican legislative assembly attack occurred around 5pm[1] on 10 October 2001.[2]Two armed Israelis, Saar Noam Ben Zvi and Salvador Gersson Smeck (a suspected Mossadagent[2]) carrying Pakistani passports[3] were arrested in the Mexican Legislative assembly. The attack was widely but only briefly reported on Mexican TV and in local newspapers. It was reported in Pravda on 13 October[2] but appears to have been subject to a news blackout as it was covered scarcely if at all by Western commercially-controlled media. The pair were later released without charge.

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/2001_Mexican_legislative_assembly_attack

    Ernesto Cienfuegos: Zionist Terrorists Arrested Inside Mexican Congress

    The Mexican public and congress has been reticent about declaring war against Islam along with the U.S. It is possible that an act of terrorism against the Mexican Congress was planned in order to “terrorize” Mexico into towing the line against Islam. La Voz de Aztlan will be on top of this developing story to report any additional developments.
See more at http://www.pravdareport.com/news/russia/34472-n/

    In the unlikely scenario if the assassin were ever caught, he would be caught with Saudi or UAE passports

    • Thanks: Robjil
  386. Taxi says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    OF COURSE there are good people in the world! But you obviously live in a universe full of ‘bad’ people. Glad I’m not your neighbor.

    In case you missed it, I refer you to this here:

    I don’t know where you get the “Hezbollah commander” from – oh right from the jewy msm. Salim Ayyash was a government first responder working as a fireman and his link to Hezbollah is that he is also on their volunteer list of first responders in Dahyeh (like tens of thousands of other Lebanese). He is neither a “commander” nor an official member of the Hezbollah. And in any case, he is clearly the fall guy in this kangaroo court. Plus if you recall, the Hezbollah itself was NOT indicted by the silly court.
    https://www.unz.com/article/hezbollah-the-beautiful/#comment-4313564

    Either produce ACTUAL evidence of Hezbollah “terrorism” or just sftu already.

  387. Malla says:
    @KA

    The stupidity of some people make me cry. Who is Donner in front of real Muslim crinicolers of their time? The Western Leftist Universities tend to push this idea of perfect Islamic Middle East Vs evul Christian Europe. “The paradise of Al Andalus” which all have been easily debunked.

    One of the foundational premises of the Hindutva view of the past is derived from Mill’s division of Indian history

    The stupidity of this statement makes me want to cry. Listen, let me explain. The Muslim historians were the first to write proper chronological history in India (after the earlier Greek travelers and Chinese monks). But the Muslim historians had no interest or the means to research much about pre-Islamic Indian history. They did not have the techniques like study of coins, excavations which Europeans had, when they came to India. Either the Muslim historians were not interested in pre-Islamic Indian history or did not have the means to study it. Exceptions: Exceptions like Al Beruni and other Persian scholars who came to India before any serious Islamic conquests took place a 1000 years ago and maybe Emperor Akbar who did have a lot of interest in the “mysteries of ancient India’, of a land unlike his ancestors he really considered his own. The first people to scientifically study pre-Islamic history using scientific methods were Europeans including officers of East India Company. They had the means and superior scientific techniques which neither Hindus nor Muslims had before them. When they studied Indian history they came to the logical conclusion of dividing Indian history into pre Islamic Hindu India and a Islamic India. This division of Indian history is normal and common sense. Just like the division of European history into pre-Christian and Christian Europe.
    Have you actually read Mills book on India. It is a book any Hinduvadi would hate THE MOST. Mills does not write anything much about Islamic brutality. His main point is that Hindus were cowards and pathetic in war, Hindu architecture is unbalanced, Hindu sciences over-hyped and backward. According to Mills real civilization comes to India with the coming of Islam. But Mills also writes highly of Shivaji Maharaj, the founder of the Maratha Empire as one the most supremely brave man born in India. But overall, no Hinduvadi would like Mills book, indeed his History of India is a book hinduvadis HATE THE MOST.

    The stupidity of some people, you and the Secularists makes me cry. GO AND ACTUALLY READ MILLS BOOK. I HAVE.

    Thus, the members of the Sangh Parivar have been perpetuating the colonial view of Indian history.

    The division of Indian history into pre Islamic and then Islamic is common sense. Just like the division of Indian history into pre-Colonial and Colonial and post colonial is common sense. This is bullshit canard thrown by the Leftists. if that is enough to create Hindu-Muslim clashes then we are all a bunch of idiots. It is just like classifying European history into pre-Christian and Christian. This is common sense classification. European historians with some exceptions were some of the most honest history writers in India, why because they readily accepted the positive points of others and readily accepted the mistakes made by themselves.
    The British writer, whose blind acceptance by the Hinduvadis which can be criticized is that of Colonel Olcott, who came up with the “Out of India” theory which postulated as against other scholars of their time, that Aryans originated in India and went and civilized the World. See when European scholars studied Indian languages and religions, they noticed that North Indian languages and elements of ancient Vedic Hinduism matched a lot with Persian/Afghan, Hittite/Mittani as well as pre-Christian religions (Norse-Anglo Saxon-Germanic, Slavic, Baltic, Dacian, Celtic, Armanian, Greeco-Roman etc) and most languages of Europe (languages other than Basque, Finnish-Estonian and Hungarian) and Persian and Dari language. Indeed it was a Turkish nobleman Evleya Celibi who had already noted the similarities in between German and Persian languages centuries ago. So after more research they came up with the AIT, or Aryan Invasion theory, that a people known as Aryans invaded an conquered India from Central Asia about 4000 years ago. Indian Hindu scholar and Brahmin Tilak too accepted via research of Vedic texts that the Aryans came from the “North pole” to India. However British Colonel Olcott came up with the bullshit theory that the Aryans originated in India and went and civilized the World. This theory was immediately taken up by the Hinduvadi nationalists. However Col Olcott was a member of the weird anti-Christian cult of the Theosophical Society which played a big part in destroying British Rule in India. Gandhi was closely linked with this cult, indeed the title of ‘Mahatma’ was given to him by the Theosophists. Gandhi’s bringing of Theosophist mumbo jumbo into the Congress played a part in creating a rift in between Gandhi and Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan. However latest genetic research has shown without any doubt that the Aryans did invade India and the OIT (Out of India theory) of Col Olcott and the Hinduvadis is impossible and has been scraped. It exists only in Hinduvadi websites, they try to save a dead horse. LOL.
    So no, Hinduvadis were not influenced much by European scholars about Islamic brutality towards Hindus. They did not need to, the original Islamic texts existed.

    • Replies: @Iris
  388. Malla says:
    @KA

    I have never claimed that “Islamic” rules of the hybrid Indinazed muslim of Turko-Perrsian-Afghan orgin was benign. non-violent or secular . But did it veer too far from the existing Indian mores ? I dont think so .

    I am saying the same. I accept that both brutality by Hindus against Buddhists and Jain took place as well as Islamic brutality against Infidel idol worshipers Hindus and Jains took place and many times in the name of religion. Pushing everything on “greed for wealth” or “Central Asian Turkish Culture” or “or boasts and hyped up claims” bullshit excuses as Islamic scholars mention the religious aspects of the brutalities on Hindus. But unlike Hinduvadis I reject the hyped up claims of Islamic brutality and hiding of their own sins. But it seems many Muslims too want to hide their own sins like the Hinduvadis.

    In reality Buddhism and Jainism arrived to South India before Brahminical religion made any inroads… describing the Buddhist in the worst words possible point to the coordinated violent attacks by the ruling classes …… These wars of aggression have provided the material of many folklores, Purana, “Kabbya “( poetry ), and the fresco on the walls of the Hindu religious buildings .

    All true.

    muslim invaders did come and saw the Khajuraho but didn’t bother to destroy the cave temple

    This is true too. Indeed Emperor Aurangzeb instructed his son in a letter, when his son had camped in the deccan, to go and admire the Buddhist, Jain and Hindu sculptures of the caves of Ajanta and Ellora, they are truly admirable. Surprising for a devout Muslim Emperor to tell his son to go and admire idols (but of course not worship them) . the Emperor did not tell him to destroy them but to admire them. It were Brahmans who destroyed those idols, the Buddhist and Jain ones. I am not saying like those Hinduvadis that Islamic rule was one big kill and rape fest. It was more complicated than that, a lot of benefits came with Islamic rule, and at times a lot of tolerance shown (sometimes out of compulsion of the situation). But there were many instances of extreme Islamic brutality against Hindus and many times in the name of religion and faith.
    Also the Delhi Sultanate was far more brutal than the Mughals including our Emperor Aurangzeb. The Mughals tho not perfect, were far more tolerant than the Delhi Sultanate, overall.

    • Replies: @christine
    , @Taxi
  389. MEexpert says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    The UN frequently condemns Israel. And the verdict was based on good evidence. Not every bad thing in the world can just be reduced to da joos.

    For every bad thing that happens in the ME, Israeli hand is behind it. Israel wants peace but it keeps bombing countries and killing innocent citizens. You take out Israel and there will be peace in the ME.

  390. MEexpert says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasan_al-Askari

    What a great reference? You proved my statement. Wikipedia is as authetic as a three dollar bill. Even there Jews are at work to turn the narrative in their favour and against the Muslims.

    • Replies: @Vehmic Juryman
  391. This article by Taxi is kinda unrelated to the topic, but still very much related in many other ways — obviously. Unzers, take a peek at this brilliant style of writing that captivates & mesmerizes its readers with knowledge, conviction, TRUTH, military strategy & a very strong desire for JUSTICE — all rolled into one.

    Suffice to say that I am definitely one of her BIGgest fans. In life, when one recognizes greatness in any particular field, it is your duty to share it with others so that they can also benefit. Behold! 👇🏽👌🏼👍

    …Fact is, that despite all that ill-gotten Jewish affluence and control of the Western hemisphere, despite their possession of nukes and their dictatorship of all of America’s political, intelligence and military institutions, Tel Aviv remains a hapless sitting duck in the Middle East – increasingly targeted by increasing missiles.

    Yes, it’s the missiles, stupid!

    If you thought Trump’s fisty sanctions on Iran are about their nuclear program, think again. If you thought these sanctions have anything to do with Iran’s “mad Mullahs” desiring world domination through terrorism, think again. And definitely redouble your thinking too if you believe that “they hate our freedoms”, or that it’s about Iranian street chants of “Death to America, Death to Israel”. All media reasons given for our hostility towards Iran are but a cloak that conceals Israel’s current reality and state of mind: missile-phobia in Tel Aviv. A rampant and jittery phobia that has rendered the Jewish halls of power permanently gasping with anxiety and clasping at any thread of an idea that may reverse their fatal security malady: a geopolitical-military malady that appears to have absolutely no cure. (Too late for the cure, as it happens).

    Absolutely magnificent! Read on…for the climax. ☺️

    [MORE]

    Yes, the whole Iran shebang is about nothing but ballistic missiles in the hands of Israel’s enemies: the Axis of Resistance in the Levant. It’s about the Jewish attempt to cut off the Iranian hands that supply these lethal missiles that will definitely be used against Israel in the next war. No more dealing with homemade firecrackers from Hamas and Hezbollah. This is a new era of war for the Jewish state: their enemies have manged to now acquire the wherewithal to actually destroy the klepto state of Israel in a handful of days. And every day that passes, more Axis of Resistance missiles are manufactured and installed – every day, therefore, Israel’s existential crisis increases, with no sure way of stopping or reversing it without igniting a massive war and sacrificing Tel Aviv to the belly of these missiles.

    Fatal standard and ballistic missiles in the hands of Resistance factions dotted across the Levant and all the way to the river banks of ancient Babylonia is the very and only issue that is keeping the Jewish military up all night. And despite Israel bombing Syria hundreds of times in its attempt to stop the delivery of these missiles from Iran to the Resistors in the Levant, the Axis of Resistance with the help of Iran still managed to circumvent all that Jewish terrorism and receive these missiles with a smile on their faces. Iranian ballistic missiles that are legal under international law have already been transferred to Hezbollah, and from Hezbollah to the unified resistance in Gaza and the occupied Golan. Resistance ballistic missiles that can strike with 100% precision and trash any Jewish military runway beyond recognition.

    Dear reader, I’ll remind you here that the whole of Israel’s security rests on its Air Force’s advanced capabilities, not on its foot soldiers, tanks or navy. It is the Jewish Air Force that has for decades kept Israel intact. It is the Israeli Air Force that has always been the prime and only real protector of Jews living in Israel. And it is this very Jewish protector who is now, for the first time ever, targeted specifically for destruction by ballistic missiles in the capable hands of the Axis of Resistance. And just because the Axis of Resistance doesn’t supply the world with videographic evidence of their ballistic missiles does not mean that they do not possess them. These missiles are part and parcel of the “surprises” that the Axis of Resistance have often referred to when speaking about the coming war with Israel. And if the sandal-wearing Houthis in Yemen can now successfully produce these missiles domestically, you can be sure that all of Iran’s other regional allies and proxies have them and their know-hows too.

    The Israeli Air Force that has for 70+ years been the unchallenged supreme king of the Levant skies is now for the first time ever having to contend with ballistic missiles aimed at all its bases and radar stations by small Resistance groups. Jewish military honchos are going ‘ballistic’ over this insurmountable new challenge: their nerves are rattled, they have lost weight and their hair is falling out. They are unable to digest the frightful reality that shifted against them and right before their stunned, beady eyes.

    Nothing, I repeat NOTHING can change this new reality except a regional war that finds Israel as the victor. And the likelihood of a Jewish victory is close to zero!

    It’s the geography, stupid!

    Even geography itself is against the Jewish state. Sure they can inflict massive destruction on their enemies, but they simply cannot ‘wipe out’ their enemies through and through – their enemies’ landmass and populations are just too vast and too missile-armed now and they can easily return the favor by wiping out tiny, geographic Israel. Even if Israel employs nukes against Tehran, what’s to stop Tehran from sending a 100 ballistic missiles to the Dimona – all it would take is a single missile hit on Israel’s nuclear plant and Tehran would have returned the ‘nuclear favor’.

    You could say: all options are nowoff the table!

    Tel Aviv, unable to strike at Iran or even its proxies for fear of igniting a war that would ballistically destroy it wholesale and literally overnight, has but a single weapon left against Tehran: the economic one, hence Trump’s “very big, very serious sanctions”. Everything else having failed already, Jews are hoping to bankrupt Iran so that it becomes unable to further support and supply weapons to the Axis of Resistance that now ballistically surrounds Israel proper from all directions.

    But Trump’s sanctions don’t seem to be working as effectively as the Jews had anticipated. The EU, China, Russia, India, and Japan have all initially hesitated to comply. India and Japan have now extremely reluctantly submitted to Trump, the EU remains undecided and China and Russia don’t give a fuck about what Trump wants. Sanctions therefore have only partially succeeded and Iran’s hands remain intact.

    source: https://platosguns.com/2019/06/21/missile-phobia-in-tel-aviv/

    • Thanks: RedpilledAF, Taxi
  392. Toni says:
    @Black Picard

    You were right at first. Taxi is of course a man pretending to be a woman (Wonder if only on the internet).
    He is connected to Hezbollah of course as you can see from this love letter and also to Iranian and Russian state agents.

    • Troll: Iris
  393. christine says:
    @Talha

    Who cares about ‘generally accepted’ and i describe god as an ‘it’ all the time.

    Actually ‘it’ may not be factually correct either because can ‘nothing’ even be described as an ‘it’?.

    You probably know the answer to that better than i do because i don’t have a badge of intellectual separation like you have on this forum and anyway i was always the classroom clown rather than the goody two shoes scholar where a university education wasn’t even considered for me when i was a teenager but ho hum i guess later i got to unlearn instead and strip it all back to the nothing of all that there really is.

    Peaceful dreaming and glad to know that you have an understanding wife.

    • Thanks: Talha
  394. Iris says:
    @Malla

    …. push this idea of perfect Islamic Middle East Vs evul (sic) Christian Europe. “The paradise of Al Andalus” which all have been easily debunked.
    The stupidity of this statement makes me want to cry.

    You have much more serious matters to cry about, considering your total cultural and intellectual indigence.

    May be you really are some necessitous Indian living in a slum, with no means to travel and no TV set to watch documentaries, suffering from acute Muslim derangement syndrome. In which case I charitably inform you that what is left of Al Andalus is still standing in the South of Spain, and is considered among the most exceptional cultural and architectural patrimony to be found in Europe.

    While Spain as a whole is a magnificent country, its two most outstanding monuments are the Muslim Al Andalus-built Granada’s Alhambra Palaces and Cordoba’s Mosque, visited by millions of tourists every year and celebrated by contemporary official Spanish cultural institutions. There is nothing to dispute; you should get a passport or educate yourself.

    • Replies: @Malla
  395. christine says:
    @Malla

    There exists a book available on amazon that you may be interested called ‘Krishna in the sky with diamonds’ by Scott Teitsworth'(he lives in Portland Oregon and is i believe of Asian Indian heritage) that explains in detail how Krishna was Arjuna’s psychedelic trip guide in the Bhagavad Gita.

    I can’t say that i have read the book as Mr Teitsworth advised me some years ago that i wouldn’t get anything out of it with my ‘experience and understanding’ but that doesn’t mean that is isn’t a very very important work and it probably is.

    No proper understanding of ancient Indian history is complete until one understands that psychedelics were the catalyst to Hinduism and Buddhism.

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @KA
  396. @Fran Taubman

    I know family members of Larry Silverstein, he did not blow up anything.

    But Larry Sliverstein is on record ordering “Pull it!” to bring down Tower 7.

    • Replies: @Iris
  397. Malla says:
    @Talha

    Islam was brought in via the Indian Ocean trade routes and some of the most ancients mosques exist (which also – importantly – look native as opposed to mosques in other regions which look like Persian imports):

    Very good points. Islam came to Kerala in South India via Muslim Arab traders. Kerala has always been an important hub on international trade as seen by its location. there has been a strong Jewish presence here before the coming of Islam and Nasarite Christianity reached Kerala before it reached Europe. Also lots of Chinese and South East Asian influences as well.
    Now Mosques do not always have to have a dome. The typical Islamic architecture has a lot to do with Arabs picking up Byzantine influences and coming out with a novel style (which explains why Islamic architecture and Russian Orthodox architecture have similarities) who picked up the concept of the Dome from the Romans. Indeed the largest dome is on the St. Paul Cathedral, hell even the White House has a dome. There is no compulsions for mosques to have a dome. There are mosques in China which have Chinese architecture. As long as the Qiblah is facing Mecca, no animal or human forms depicted and no other gods worshiped as well as other basic criteria, mosques can in theory look like any building.

    in the subcontinent as a whole there is an inverse relationship between the degree of Muslim political penetration and the degree of Islamization. Even within Bengal this principle holds true.”

    This is true for Bengal but not Pakistan. What we now call Pakistan has always been a region of high Islamic penetration. I am not saying all Pakistanis converted by the sword or to escape jaziya. many surely have converted via Daawa. However in Bengal that has been more of a case. Sufi saints played a big role in the Islamization of East Bengal even if some cases of forced conversion may have existed as Bengal fell under Islamic rule.
    East Bengal was actually more Buddhist and more disconnected from Hindu cowbelt HQ compared to Western Bengal. Earlier one of Bengal’s ruling dynasty was Buddhist the Pala. Nalanda University had loads of Bengali Buddhist teachers. But after the Hindu Sena dynasty took over, Bengali Buddhists were ill treated. It is during this time we see the coming of Sufi preachers and Islamization might have started even before Muslim armies conquered the Hindu Sena dynasty and became the ruling power of Bengal.

    • Replies: @Talha
  398. Malla says:
    @Iris

    I was not talking about architecture of Andalusia, you idiot. I was talking about the myth of tolerance in Al-Andalus, which was true, but only for a period of time. Not the entire duration.

    I know it is cool to stereotype us as poor Indian slum dwellers. You have the right to do that, stereotype us 1.6 billion Indians in this way. But do not cry when others stereotype you too in their own way.
    Peace.

    • Troll: Iris
  399. Iris says:
    @Commentator Mike

    WTC7 could not be left standing because it suffered internal collateral damage indisputably characteristic of controlled demolition, with glasswork blown up outwards and internal staircase collapsed.

    This damage occurred because WTC7 was linked to the Twin Towers by tunnels, among the many that existed at the WTC. These tunnels acted as path of less resistance, and partially carried the explosion shockwaves that destroyed the South and North Towers to WTC7, making it a standing evidence of controlled demolition.

    The evidence is blatantly obvious in many videos of WTC7 filmed after the South and North Towers were blown up.
    It is also attested by the testimony of Barry Jennings, the Deputy Director of the Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority, who got trapped inside WTC7 when the staircase collapsed. Mr Jennings’ subsequent mysterious death is also to be added to the 9/11 perpetrators’ record.
    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Barry_Jennings

    Demolishing WTC7 was not part of the initial plan; the decision had to be improvised when the perpetrators realised that the WTC7 was a standing proof of controlled demolition executed nearby.

    The fact that Silverstein was in a position to make such crucial and fatal decision only shows how high up he was in the 9/11 false flag command hierarchy, and which US power group was calling the shots.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  400. Malla says:
    @KA

    Ok let me explain to you how the whole thing goes.
    “Indian history” was literally invented by nationalists in the late 1800s and early 1900, a kind of fake national history propaganda to rile up the masses for revolution against the British. After independence this “history” crystallized as official history.
    These were broken into three camps but I will discuss two camps first.
    In the first camp were the Congress, the Muslims and Marxists. This version of history was like India was a continues Hindu civilization till the Muslims came ( not much mention about Scythians or that Buddhism was a major religion of India, Indo-Greek kingdoms, Brahmi script etc…), Mughal India was paradise on Earth. The British came, sneaked in, used divide and Rule and looted out India, They were extremely brutal and barbaric. Remember this history was created to rile up the masses against the British. All all the parties the upper Caste Western educated Congress, Muslims had historical grievances against the British for losing their own pet Empires and the Marxists who obviously hated Colonialism as their pet Marx theory of Capitalist countries turning Communist did not happen in reality as well the chance of using class warfare to gain power. All three parties disagreed with each other regarding the history of the late 1800 -early 1900 period, each blaming each other for being the “secret stooge of the British”.

    the Second Camp were the Right winged Hindu fundamentalists. Their version of history was a slight variation of the above, Hindu India before Islam came (Buddhist India as such did not exist according to them!!!) was a Golden Period in History. Then came the Muslims who looted and killed with glee. It was a loot and murder fest. All the barbaric Muslims did was loot and kill innocent Hindus. Nothing about Islam’s own intellectual and cultural side? No nothing like that exists, shouts the Hinduvadis. After the Muslims came the British who continued the loot and killing. 1000 years of loot and killing on poor Hindu victim. They are in agreement with the first camp, that the British are evul but they disagree with the first camp about Islamic India. This is even tho the rightwinged RSS never resisted the British, like the Congress but in those days they were more fringe.

    So the Hindutva bullshit conception of History
    Hindu India from 10000 B.C. LOL (Golden period)—> Islamic India (Dark ages)—> British India (Dark Ages)
    Actually lying about the British by leftists and Congressis gave the license by the Hindutvas to now take this culture of propaganda and lies against the Islamic period of India.
    Congressis, Muslims, Hindutvas and Indian Marxists supported by Western Marxists in Western University Indian and Oriental Studies departments all agree that the British period was horrendous, which is bullshit.

    Both the above two camps version of history are bullshit propaganda with some truths thrown in.
    The third group who do not get much coverage are the Ambedkarites, the followers of Dr. Ambedkar.
    Their understanding of history is
    Buddhist India (Golden Period)–>Hindu India (Worst Period/Dark Ages)—> Islamic India (Mixed period)—> British India (Positive Period)
    the more I research Indian history, it seems it are the third group, the Ambedkarites who have it the correct the most, on solid historical grounds.

    • Replies: @KA
  401. KA says:
    @Reaper

    American propaganda is to commit a blunder or a murder or mount an aggression or channel a deception .It is pre emptive. Often other country tries to engage in propaganda to thwart those American attempts. It is post emptive .

    At home American propaganda succeeds beyond imagination – bank bail out or stimulus package
    Other country often pays prices – Yellow Vest or Ethiopian mutiny ,HK unrest, fights in Taiwan parliament or street demonstration in Israel .

  402. KA says:
    @Malla

    You are not explaining anything that is related to the current behavior of BJP and its intellectual fact based justification of this behavior. You are not explaining the submissive intellectual acceptance of this narrative by broad swath of India . For that we need to visits 4-8 th century’s intellectual engineering of Hindu religion . Shankara and todays Arnab Goswami share a lot in common .

    I am doing it . Indias focus on muslim atrocities with passion, with exaggeration biases , combined with condoning or suppressing of much worst crimes committed by the “Hindus “ from awareness against non Brahminic religions and Indigenous religions /sects/tribes is putting lives of muslim in India at same risk that visited the Buddhist and the tribal people.

  403. @Iris

    I think that it takes quite some time to plan and rig up a controlled demolition. That this could be done so quickly under the conditions of fires and damage from the nearby towers in just a few hours and so well as to have it drop so perfectly seems hard to believe. I’d say the explosives were already in place before Silverstein ordered it pulled down. Watch how he averts his eyes at the moment he relates that order – he’s obviously hiding something.

    • Replies: @Iris
  404. @MEexpert

    Get a grip dude. An obscure historical article about a figure most people will never hear of doesn’t have da joos editing it to make Islam look bad. Islam looks bad on its own. Do you deny that sexual slavery is allowed in Islam and has been common in Islamic history? It is explicitly sanctioned by the Quran and Muhammad practiced it himself.

    Here’s a Muslim source saying roughly the same thing:

    “Like mothers of some other Imams (a), Hudayth was a bondwoman.”

    https://en.wikishia.net/view/Hudayth_(mother_of_Imam_al-Hasan_al-%27Askari_(a))

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @MEexpert
  405. @Taxi

    That’s odd, Hassan Nasrallah didn’t seem to consider Ayyash to be not an official member of Hezbollah when he said he would refuse to hand over “his men” to the Tribunal.

    It strains credibility to believe that a Hezbollah commander would assassinate a sitting prime minister without the go ahead from the higher authorities in the organization.

    The UN tribunal had an extremely high standard of evidence and ended up acquitting most of the indicted conspiritors. But the evidence was beyond a reasonable doubt for Ayyash. You would think that a “kangaroo court” would convict everybody.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
    , @Taxi
  406. Iris says:
    @Commentator Mike

    and so well as to have it drop so perfectly seems hard to believe.

    Trust your judgement; it has been proved correct by science so there is nothing hard believing in it.

    The civil engineering study carried out at the University of Alaska-Fairbanks under Professor Hulsey’s supervision and using state-of-the-art design tools, has proved beyond the point of discussion that WTC7 came down as a result of “global failure”, i.e. simultaneous controlled demolition.

    Only the mentally-retarded can now claim the contrary, which is why the subject of WTC7 is completely buried:

    Lying Mainstream Media Ignore Expert New 9/11 WTC7 Demolition Report

    https://countercurrents.org/2020/08/lying-mainstream-media-ignore-expert-new-9-11-wtc7-demolition-report/

    I’d say the explosives were already in place before Silverstein ordered it pulled down.

    Yes, but he did not have to get the building rigged by painstakingly placing explosives throughout at key structural nodes, as is done in conventional demolition.

    It was far easier and faster than that: they detonated one, single nuclear charge that was already stored in an underground explosion chamber located underneath WTC7. So there was no need to run around or risk to be seen.

    What the perpetrators did plan for was to have at least one nuclear charge in extra, in addition to the two they used for the Twin Towers. That was probably to cater for a risk of malfunction of the former.

    The tell-all 9/11 question is : why was there molten steel at the WTC for over 3 months?
    The scientific answer is unique and unambiguous: because nuclear energy was at play.

  407. Malla says:

    Shankara and todays Arnab Goswami share a lot in common .

    Yeah that is true. After all, in the bigger scheme of things they both eventually want/ wanted the same thing at the end of the day. Brahmanical supremacy.
    About the BJP I will write later.

    • Replies: @Metropole
  408. Anon[735] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    To certain cretins, prostitutes slave woman , or ethnically alien women amen are beyond marriage , beyond redemption , not worthy of the grace of the almighty .

    Sexual slavery , we have been told practiced by ISIS
    It’s the same ISIS who were languishing in Saudi jail , same who earlier been educated and trained by USA in Iraqi jail , and sent from other whose existence could have been at risk if they didn’t follow the US’s military ‘s morality which incorporate sexual perversions , rape , and sexual humiliation .

    These people are fighting for everything that is odious and religion is not one of them .
    If USA can impose dictatorship in the name of democracy, rape of children as punishment in the name of woman’s liberation, ISIS can compete easily with same west on the same terms in the same cesspool .

  409. MEexpert says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    “Like mothers of some other Imams (a), Hudayth was a bondwoman.”

    You took the sentence out of context. Hudatha was the princess of Rome. Read the whole story.

    • Replies: @Vehmic Juryman
  410. MEexpert says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    You would think that a “kangaroo court” would convict everybody.

    They had put up a semblance of fairness. The hearings were a sham. First they tried to blame Syria. When that did not work, they went after Hezbollah because that is they way the US wanted. They could not blame the real culprit, Israel because big daddy (US) was looking after them. Your favorite reference, Wikipedia says, “however the only one left alive would be Salim Ayyash, a well-connected, mid-level operative in Hezbollah.” Suicide truck bombing or dropping megaton bombs on cars and wheelchairs is the MO of Israel.

    • Agree: Taxi
  411. Metropole says:
    @Malla

    About the BJP I will write later.

    Do you mind taking your discussion of India to some other thread? Or ask Mr. Unz to post some article on India and you can then cut and paste whole encyclopedias in it.

    Otherwise you’re just spamming this thread, which has nothing to do with India.

    • Agree: ariadna
  412. @MEexpert

    No, that was the mother of the next Imam. Her name was Narjis. She was also a slave. These morally infallible Imams really loved slave girls.

    It is a ridiculous story. Supposedly a granddaughter of the Byzantine emperor had a dream where Fatima told her to let herself be captured and enslaved by a Muslim army.

  413. @Metropole

    There is the Open Thread for off topic discussions. Malla should go and post there. But indeed he could write an article relating to Indian history or specifically the colonial experience from his point of view and ask Ron to post it. Being so knowledgeable I’m sure it would arouse much interest among the commentariat.

  414. Malla says:
    @Metropole

    Now splash your face with some cold water and come back to your monitor. Go up this page to comment 204. It was the commentator KA who started the whole subject which had nothing to do with Lebanon or Hezbollah. I only responded which led to a huge debate. Why come after me?

    [MORE]

    And why does it bother you, I do not remember interacting with you on this page!!! I think there is something more to it than my “spamming” for your emotional outburst. As well as the little likey likey by Larchmonter420. Deep emotional issues. But I give it a rest, I have better things to do…
    Peace.

  415. Malla says:
    @Larchmonter420

    This is the most intelligent comment you have written on the website. You have come a long way. Who said IQ is determined by birth? It sure can rise. You are proof. Well Done. Hava cookie.

  416. Metropole says:
    @Larchmonter420

    LOL! Malla is a bot and he is a counterpart to Meena.

    Google needs to improve its AI before unleashing its bots on us. Their AI brain needs to figure out the topic and stick to it. But then, Google is full of Indians, and it would be a disaster for the world if future AI systems started pushing Hindu Indian propaganda everywhere.

  417. Iris says:

    Interesting 2019 interview on TruNiews, where the guest reminded the public of a research paper produced by the US Army School of Advanced Military studies and attempting to predict events in the first year of a hypothetical Israel/Palestine peace enforcement mission:

    On the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence services, the SAMS officers say: “Wildcard – Ruthless and cunning – Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.

    This military report was issued on 09/10/2001, only one day before the 9/11 crime against humanity was executed.

    • Thanks: ChuckOrloski
  418. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Normalizing relations is not always what it seems. Egypt was the first… But just in the past couple of weeks and Egyptian celebrity is to be brought up on charges for taking pictures with an Israeli in the UAE.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  419. @Metropole

    Would not be surprised. If you make any negative comment about India or Indians on an Indian media site – you can indeed have your account disabled.

    • Agree: Metropole
  420. Taxi says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    Why wouldn’t Nasrallah call Lebanese patriotic first responders “his men”? You do know that most of the Lebanon population are nationalists who support Hezbollah, right? They are all “his men”! Your argument is stupid, pathetically semantic and desperate. FACT is the Special Tribunal Court DID NOT FIND HEZBOLLAH GUILTY. Now shove that up your curry arse and fuck off. You’re getting no shekels for your poor performance tonight motherfucker.

    Israel assassinated Rafic Hariri. Plenty of evidence point to this – evidence that the court refused to examine. Hariri was worth more dead than alive to the Christ-killing jews.

    • Agree: RedpilledAF, MEexpert
    • Replies: @Vehmic Juryman
  421. @Franklin Ryckaert

    The “morals” of the New Testament all come from the “old testament”…. all of them

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  422. @showmethereal

    That is why it is called “cold peace”, which is still a form of peace (i.e. non-war).

  423. @showmethereal

    On the contrary, they are each other’s opposite, reason why Jesus came into conflict with the Jewish establishment all the time.

    The most striking differences are:
    OT: hate, NT: love
    OT: revenge, NT: forgiveness.
    OT: external formalities, NT: inner spontaneity.

    • Replies: @Metropole
    , @showmethereal
  424. christine says:
    @Metropole

    You really need to read more of what Malla has to say because from what i have read from Malla’s comments on Taxi’s last article towards the end they have really slagged off modern day Hindu’s…..and rightly so coz they just don’t get it.

    Hindu Indian propaganda ???.

    Think again.

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @Metropole
  425. @Hiram of Tyre

    I was reading Linh, he was sitting 1/3 of mile from the Beirut port blast having a drink in a local cafe. Really big explosion that really didn’t cause a lot of collateral damage, did it? The ‘explosion’ mainly went straight up, not out, which makes it look like a controlled demo, like The Towers.

    We do know what happened; 27 thousand tons of weapons grade AN that was being used in vieds against a neighbouring army defending their country was removed from inventory. One can speculate on who ‘removed’ it and why.

    Cheers, M

  426. Malla says:
    @Metropole

    What I find with many Arabs I encounter on Unz is that the racist attitudes they show towards Indians. And I am fine with that, I believe we have the right to criticize. However what I find strange is that same Arabs do not accept criticism of themselves. This is also something I see of some (not all) Muslims as a whole.

    [MORE]

    Just the other day you write about how the mighty have fallen, America is getting a “Hindu VP”. Well she is half Hindu. And I agree with you on that, it is odd for a country like America to get it. But remember, many American citizens criticized Obama when he was to become president about the “Hussein” in his name. I hope Muslims too were tolerant enough to take this criticism.
    Many here write about Hindus and Jewish alliance and some of them have been snide remarks directed at me. Larchmonter420 even commented that Hindus and Jews are the same, you wrote about Modi and Netanyahoo. That is fine, I myself have been a big critic of the blind support shown to Israel by many Indians totally disregarding the plight of Palestinians. All I wanted my countrymen is to have a more balance view of the issue. But I, similarly like larchmonster, could quote my Iranian friend who told me years ago “Arabs and Jews, they are both the same, shameless backstabbers”. I guess we all have our right to an opinion. Also I have been a firm critic of Hindu fundamentalism and Indian hyper nationalism. Yet this grouping of all Indians as Hindus as Hindutva fundamentalists, even anti-fundamentalists like me shows a very tribal and primitive mind. It is equivalent as saying all Muslims or Arabs are terrorists. Do onto others as you want others to do on to you.
    Just the other day I posted a comment about the slave trade which wrote about Arabs involvement in it. It was not my thoughts but I quote the works of a Brazilian thinker. From that day onwards, this man Larchmonter420 has been acting all funny towards me and has taken a childish grudge. I did not even post that comment to claim Arabs are some kind of unique evul but to show to the poster named Ponder, that slavery in those days was common everywhere. It is as if some Arabs cannot take any criticism but are experts at criticizing others. Makes me wonder what the Israelis say that Arabs are not reasonable people and we cannot deal with them as we deal with Europeans is true. Who knows if the Israelis are right? Anyways I still stand with the Palestinians on the conflict because the attitudes of some Arabs does not change the fact that the Palestinians have suffered a lot.
    If you guys (not you personally Metropole) can criticize others, others can too. Need to grow up and stop having a child brain.

  427. Malla says:
    @Metropole

    [Too much Indian stuff, often interesting but entirely off-topic.]

    Larchmonter420 once snidely commented how we Indians work in their countries. You write snidely about Indians cheap online labor. You Arabs go to Western countries and gain citizenship, marry local men and women, buy property. Yet when we Indians and even other South Asians go to your countries we are not given the same privileges. Arab countries of course have the right to decide their rules but these differences do exist. Hell Muslims from the subcontinent including Pakistanis and Bangladeshis as well as our Indian Muslims face frequent ill-treatment under the hands of Arabs, treated like slaves. Something we never face in White countries. I wonder where is your Ummah you guys prat and fart so much about?

    [MORE]

    I post this video of a Pakistani Muslim, mind you, a famous Pakistani thinker, Mr. Hasan Nisar. He is giving a speech in Canada to the Pakistani diaspora there. Please watch

    From 1:08:13 hours:minutes to 1:09:05 hours:minutes. He says
    Urdu:”Ek to Muslim ummah se bach ke rahe.” (laughter from the crowd)
    English Translation: One think, be careful of the Muslim Ummah. (laughter from the crowd)
    Urdu:”Aap dekho, ye EUROPE me, WEST me ake, inke bachose shadiya kar sakte hai, apna karobar kar sakte hai, jaidad khareed sakte hai. Acha, Saudi Arab me nahi, wo barader Islami hai” (laughter and claps from the crowd)
    English Translation: See in EUROPE, in the WEST, you can marry your children with their children, open your businesses, buy property etc…Now, You cannot do this in Saudi Arabia, they are our brothers in Islam. (laughter and claps from the crowd)
    Urdu:”To yeh dhong hai, yeh FRAUD hai”
    English Translation:This is a fake show, it is a fraud.
    Urdu:”Yeh kal tak bhikariyoke tarah, SUBCONTINENT ke Mutmabal logon se Ramzan ul Mubarak bheek magne aya karte hai”
    English Translation:They (Arabs) would once come to beg like beggars to us Subcontinentals during Ramzan.
    Urdu:”Jyo aaj Pakistaniyonko ya INDIAN MUSLIMS ko hakarat ka salook harte hai”
    English Translation:“Who today ill-treat us Pakistanis or even Indian Muslims in their countries”
    Please see and check out the expression of Mr. Nisar when he says this.

  428. Malla says:
    @Metropole

    Continuing on this issue of my last post, (Larchmonter420: They Indians come and work for us and sheeet..) this is an excellent documentary on Pakistanis living abroad, building mansions in Pakistan.

    [MORE]

    The Abandoned Mansions of Pakistan Documentary
    The documentary especially tells the story of a Pakistani named Asan who lives in Norway. He once lived in extreme poverty and hunger in Pakistan but it was in Europe, in Norway, that he could get a good life. Driven by poverty and hunger, he actually walked all the way to Europe in his youth!!!
    From 24:49 minutes in the video.
    English commentary: To Asan some destinations are more attractive than others.
    Asan the Pakistani Muslim gentleman speaks (English subtitles in video)
    Urdu: Usme, mai yeh kahunga, jyo Musalman hai, wo bahut zalim lig hai.Musalman.
    English Translation: I’d actually say, we muslims are a cruel people. Muslims.
    Urdu:”Is liye ki agar hame jyo safety di hai wo bhi CHRISTIAN logon ne di hai”
    English Translation: This is because, it is Christians (Europeans) who have given us sanctuary.
    Urdu:”Agar Hame Ameer kiya hai, paise diya hai, wo CHRISTIAN logon ne dia hai”
    English Translation: If anyone has made us rich, it are Christian people (Europeans). They have given us money.
    Urdu:”Inhone hamari FAMILY upne saath rakhne ki izazat di hia, wo CHRISTIAN logon ki hai”
    English Translation: It are Christians (Europeans) who have allowed our families to live with us.
    Urdu:Ye jyo Musalman yeh itne zalim hai
    English Translation: These Muslims (Arabs) are so ruthless/cruel.
    Urdu:Ye jyo Musalman hai, ye itne zalim hai, ki jab koi admi kisi musalman mulk ki AIRPORT par majdoori karne ke liye jata hai uska PASSPORT kisi aur admi ke haath de dete hai
    English Translation: These Muslims (Arabs) are so ruthless, that when anyone goes (from Pakistan) to a Muslim (Gulf Arab) country for labourer work, at the AIRPORT, his PASSPORT is given to another person.
    Urdu:Wo aise hai waise jyo haiwan hote hai, haiwanao ke tare unse saluuk karte hai.
    English Translation: They (Arabs) treat us like animals.
    POOR OLD PAKISTANI MAN with WHITE beard says
    Urdu:”Yani aap Gulf chale jate hai, NATIONALITY aap ko nahi dete hai chahe sao saal rahe.”
    English Translation: Gulf States will never give you Citizenship/NATIONALITY, even if you lived there for 100 years.
    Asan continues
    Urdu: “To yeh sharam ki baat hai musalmanonke liye, Mere liye sharam ki baat hai”
    English Translation: This is very shameful for Muslims in general. It is very shameful for me!!
    Please watch and check out their emotions/facial features when they speak.

  429. Metropole says:
    @christine

    Everyone is welcome to say what they like, which is why I like this website. I don’t have an issue with what Malla is saying. He’s a likable fellow. All I was asking was that please let’s stick to the topic. If we’re talking about Jerusalem then detailed discussions on Indian history are not relevant.

    This is not new. For years I have seen this behavior of Indians drowning other peoples’ discussions while not tolerating an inch of criticism on Indian managed websites.

    • Agree: Taxi, showmethereal
    • Replies: @christine
  430. Talha says:
    @Malla

    I would personally suggest having side, off-topic conversations by using the MORE tag often. I do it plenty of times to respect people’s screen space.

    See below…but as I mentioned earlier, I’d like to end my contribution at this.

    Peace.

    [MORE]

    We’ve had some good exchanges before so I didn’t want to leave you hanging.

    There is no compulsions for mosques to have a dome.

    Or chandeliers or a bunch of other random stuff that is common.

    Good points about Pakistan which, of course, much of which was conquered as early as the Umayyads than the later guys like Ghaznavids.

    My ancestor was a Sufi shaykh from Persia, so yes, many people became Muslim through them all over India.

    And you make valid points about how Muslims often mistreat each other while claiming brotherhood. Many Gulf Arabs are notorious for this – not all, obviously.

    You also make valid points that many Muslims conflate all Hindus with Hindutva fanatics. That is absolutely not fair and hypocritical when they ask to be distinguished from our extremists.

    • Thanks: Malla
  431. Metropole says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    On the contrary, they are each other’s opposite, reason why Jesus came into conflict with the Jewish establishment all the time.

    The most striking differences are:
    OT: hate, NT: love
    OT: revenge, NT: forgiveness.
    OT: external formalities, NT: inner spontaneity.

    As far as I know, the Old Testament was incorporated wholesale into Christianity. It’s very convenient. When good deeds are done it is because of the New Testament and the teachings of Jesus. When large scale slaughter or other sins are committed, which is quite often, it is the fault of the Old Testament and Jews. This way the spotless reputation of Christianity is maintained and the hearts of the perpetrators stay guilt-free and as light as a bird. Meanwhile the dirty deed also gets done and all the benefits accruing from it are also enjoyed. It’s a win win situation.

    • Thanks: Larchmonter420
    • Replies: @Robjil
    , @KA
  432. Robjil says:
    @Metropole

    It is not a win win situation anymore since 12 23 1913.

    It is an albatross around the necks for all of us now.

    The west is entangled in and can’t figure how to get out it or is fearful of being scolded by Zion rulers.

    “I can’t speak” is the sign of our times since everything said is a potential “hate (to hear about our rulers) speech”. Now it looks literally looks like this with the enforced wearing of masks over their mouths all over the world.

    Samuel Untermeyer, in the first decades of the 20th century, was everywhere sowing the seeds for the Zion tyranny that we living in now since 12 23 1913. He took over much of Protestant Christianity and he stamped out any ability for “free” speech about Elite Jewish criminal behavior.

    https://historicist.info/untermeyer/sheep.htm

    His successful Scofield Bible deception perverted Christianity with the hybrid Christian Zionism and left a church where the true, historicist interpretation of Bible prophecy, is virtually unknown. Historicism had been the standard interpretation of prophecy since the reformation.

    Finally, when one brave man, the popular Henry Ford, stood up to expose the Bolshevik wolf’s den in New York, Untermeyer and his partner waged continual war against him until the threat of murder caused him, at his wife’s desperate plea, to cease.

  433. Taxi says:
    @Malla

    You need to address the horrific inequality and racism of the Indian caste system before you point ‘racist’ fingers at others. Simply, STFU and go clean your own house first!

    • Replies: @Malla
  434. christine says:
    @Metropole

    Bearing in mind that Hezbollah is made up of Muslims and the obvious deep connection between Jerusalem and Muslims and the connection between India and Muslims one could argue that calling out historical Muslim crimes against Hindus is relevant to the topic and personally i like to see a balance to the ‘blame it all on da jooz’ camp to show that ‘the only human problem’ in the bigger picture is ‘the evil mind of far too many’, whether they be Muslim Jewish Hindu or otherwise.

    Although i have to say long discussions about a history that never really happened don’t grab much of my attention and so i am only getting a general gist here of what Malla has said and so i may have missed something.

  435. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vehmic Juryman

    System of the ottoman slavery was pretty good compared to the pre and post Ottoman European slavery . It was way more merciful compared to the norm established by transatlantic African slavery .

    • Replies: @Robjil
  436. KA says:
    @christine

    Ramayana and Mahabharata both have many authors written over many hundred of years until possibly late 17 th century . There are core concepts and essential themes that didn’t change
    Later day additions and insertions have geographical variations from Indonesia to Nepal to Burma .
    Psychedelic had no role just like Marijuana had no role in compilation of NT- Bibles . Soma , Vedic liquor had ceased to be mentioned by the time Ramayana was written ( not sure about Mahabharata
    Mahabharata Gita and later Veda or Upnishad bear close relationship ) .

    Psychedelics never been mentioned to have any prominent role or any role in Buddhism . It was not a ritual based religion to begin with . Ritual and psychedelic go together.

    • Replies: @christine
  437. KA says:
    @Metropole

    Some early celebrities ( Christian ascetics , scholars, preachers) did try to get rid of OT from the canonical Christian Bible . Origen was one .
    The debate what to include and what not convulsed early Christianity as the very question of the birth death divinity , humanity , and very concept of Son of the God did until the Council of Nicaea under the unity seeking Constantine decided and settled on one particular theology .

    Trump would have had a much better case of accusation that successful rigging having altered the result of that council . It was not last but that council sealed the fate of other variants existing and competing at that time .

    I agree that blaming the Jews or Old Testament God in secular and religious spheres of life has been a very successful guilt free pastime for the politicians , religious leaders and scholars .

    A case can be made that their elite has used the corrupt political power as much as the power has used them .

  438. christine says:
    @KA

    You really have no idea what you are talking about.

    Your deep slumber is just keeping your eyes firmly closed and thus you are completely blind to the truth that the catalyst to world religion(Abrahamic and Hinduism) was Psychedelic drugs.

    The most often named plant in the O.T Acacia is a primo psychoactive plant(leaf and vine) and if the bible story is true the ark of the covenant was made from Acacia wood.

    I suppose you would also say that Psychedelics had no prominent roles or any roles in the lives of Biblical patriarchs like Abraham and Moses, just because you cant find mention of it?…LOL.

    ‘Ritual and Psychedelic go together’.

    So does banana and custard but that doesn’t mean that they always get eaten together and trust me Buddha was tripping his tits off on soma/mushrooms whilst sat in lotus position meditating all alone without any ritual back in the day but i wouldn’t expect you to understand.

    • Replies: @KA
  439. KA says:
    @christine

    So does banana and custard but that doesn’t mean that they always get eaten together and trust me Buddha”No reason to trust you . Buddha whether didn’t or did drugs or not once or twice or many times ,I dont know. Just like I don’t know if Clinton inhaled or not or did many times .But Buddha’s teachings had nothing to do with drugs . His advice had nothing to do with drugs . Just line Clinton’s sex life or other crimes had nothing to do with drugs nor his educational achievement or law degree .

    ” ark of the covenant was made from Acacia wood” if this is your only connection, then we dont need to go further to explore your general line of reasoning . To you .goat has beard .Lincoln had beard They must be same thing or close to something that is same .

    Hemp can be used as textile and fuel but that has nothing to do with its intoxicating properties .They just happen to be there together One doesn’t reinforce another. Bible was not written by some junkies . We are not talking about Jesus we are talking about Bible and those who wrote it .

    Drug has been used by various religious ceremonies over the centuries .In Buddha’s time there was no ceremony practiced or approved by Buddha . He was agisnt all ritual precluding the role of ceremonial drugs .

    Personal choice?, recreational ? He possibly left no advice or suggestion .Most likely he would have told no .

    • Replies: @christine
  440. Metropole says:

    Bearing in mind that Hezbollah is made up of Muslims and the obvious deep connection between Jerusalem and Muslims and the connection between India and Muslims one could argue that calling out historical Muslim crimes against Hindus is relevant to the topic…

    So you’re suggesting that any topic about Muslims is automatically related to India, because, after all, India has Muslims? If we talk about Islam in Russia Indians can jump straight in to explain how some idol in India was destroyed 736 years ago?

    How about China related topics? Indians can jump in to explain why India is 50 years behind China because Muslims wrecked their 10-armed, multi colored idol in 1256.

    I didn’t want to play into the trolling otherwise I would have called out the Indian whining. Hindus should be glad that they have a country called India and a religion called Hinduism because it was the Muslims who created that country and named their religion which was not one religion but 1000 different religions depending on which idol was worshipped in which village.

    The closest example of what India was 1200 years ago would be the Incas. A degenerated, fragmented, fallen empire. A few thousand Muslims were able to conquer it and then hold it for the next 1000 years. What they found there was not some advanced civilization but a primitive people more like primitive African tribes. Like the Incas they had odious customs like naked festivals, human sacrifice, burning of widows, suffocating caste system etc. If there had been some decent ancient civilization there, it was long gone.

    It was Muslims who united the whole sub-continent into one country, otherwise it would probably have evolved into 20-30 different countries. Muslims gave it rule of law, culture, economy etc. Before the British came India was a very prosperous country with very little poverty. That’s why the British wanted to come there. They called it the jewel in their crown.

    The British found a fully functioning administration. They took over a few palaces in Delhi and the whole country fell into their hands. That’s because all power flowed from Delhi, a city Muslims founded and built.

    After the British left the Hindus got their first taste of power after over 1000 years. And they’ve been busy rewriting history. Their history books seem to describe an alternative universe where Muslim rule barely existed and was evil.

    Then you have Indians who infest all discussions pushing their alternative, revised history on to the world. They’ll flood you with their imagined history and bog you down in the nitty gritty of what happened 739 years ago.

    Once a person gets trapped into fruitless discussions with Indians that’s the end of the original topic.

    Anyways this thread has gone down the drain discussing India. In another thread about China I was reading 100% of the comments are on topic. But not here.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Malla
  441. Robjil says:
    @Anon

    Slavery is slavery. Raiding for slaves is quite cruel, it does not matter who does it.

    https://www.academia.edu/3706285/Slaves_Money_Lenders_and_Prisoner_Guards_The_Jews_and_the_Trade_in_Slaves_and_Captives_in_the_Crimean_Khanate

    The Crimean Black Slave trade was a huge business. It was second only to the African Slave trade of European Atlantic and Arab trans-Africa slave trade.

    Trade in slaves and captives was one of the most important (if not the most important) sources of income of the Crimean Khanate in the sixteenth to eighteenth centuries. According to some estimates, in the first half of the seventeenth century the number of the captives taken to the Crimea was around 150,000–200,000 persons.
    5
    According to the most recent study by Darjusz Kołodziejczyk, based on the author’s comprehensive examination of varied source material, a number of captives transported by the Crimean Tatars from Poland-Lithuania and Russia (not including the Caucasus) approached10,000 per annum, that is two million for the period between 1500 and 1700.Thus, the Black Sea slave trade was fully comparable in size with the Atlantic slave trade of the same period (ca. two million between 1451 and 1600), and declined only in the eighteenth century.

    Here is what it what it is like to be pulled from your families for slavery.

    Indeed, travel accounts of Christian authors of that period are full of descriptions of sufferings of Christian slaves captured by the Crimean Tatars. ’

    The Ottoman traveller, Evliya Çelebi, described the Tatar slave-market in Karasubazar in the following way:‘A man who had not seen this market, had not seen anything in this world.A mother is severed from her son and daughter there, a son—from his father and brother, and they are sold amongst lamentations, cries of help, weeping and sorrow.

    Jewish input of this trade has not been fully investigated as of yet.

    In spite of the fact that practically every academic work dedicated to the history of the Crimea mentions the importance of the slave-trade for the Khanate’s economy,
    the role which was played by the Jewish population(both Karaite and Rabbanite)
    1in this process still has not been properly investigated.

    • Replies: @Anon
  442. Malla says:
    @Metropole

    MODERATOR: I have not interests tow bring up the topic of India when we are discussing the beautiful Lebanon. But I gotta correct some misconceptions.

    because it was the Muslims who created that country and named their religion

    Excuse me? Arrogance has its limits. May be you do not know about Ashoka the Great and the Mauryas.

    Before the British came India was a very prosperous country with very little poverty.

    Not true. There was a lot of poverty in India before the British came. In 1600, Britain’s per capita income was already twice of India. Britain did not come to “steal wealth”. They came to trade. British Raj taxation was far lower than Muslim or Hindu kingdom taxation. Really low. Something like 7 to 10% on farmers while that of earlier Muslim, Sikh and Hindu kings were as high as 20-25% and even as high as 50%.

    The British found a fully functioning administration. They took over a few palaces in Delhi and the whole country fell into their hands. That’s because all power flowed from Delhi, a city Muslims founded and built.

    You are totally ignorant of Indian history, imagined some bullshit in your mind. Maybe my earlier posts on the mutiny and Delhi gave you a wrong idea. The British got most of India by conquering the Hindu Maratha Empire. The Mughal Emperor in Delhi for a long time was kept in place by the Hindu Maratha Holkars forces.

    That’s because all power flowed from Delhi, a city Muslims founded and built.

    Again more stupidity and arrogance. Delhi is far older than Muslims coming here.

    Then you have Indians who infest all discussions pushing their alternative, revised history on to the world. They’ll flood you with their imagined history and bog you down in the nitty gritty of what happened 739 years ago.Once a person gets trapped into fruitless discussions with Indians that’s the end of the original topic.Anyways this thread has gone down the drain discussing India.

    If that is meant for me,remember I did not start any topic on India on this page, I was responding to KA.

    • Replies: @Metropole
  443. Malla says:
    @Taxi

    Taxi, you may have no idea about me and my posts but I am a firm critique of the caste system, about the ill-treatment of Muslims in India right now, of Zionism, of Hindutva , of Modi. Those who know my post know this to be true. I have posted many posts in support of Islam as well as Arabs but I have posted many posts criticizing some aspects of Islam. Same with Christianity and Hinduism and even Buddhism. Mixed posts. You will find me of the big critiques of Zionism on Unz .
    But what I am starting to realize is there is a lot of arrogance in the attitudes of SOME (not ALL) Muslims here where they feel they can criticize others but cannot hear any criticism of themselves. This is good way to lose friends. Keep it up.

    • Agree: Vehmic Juryman
  444. Malla says:
    @Metropole

    Muslims gave it rule of law, culture, economy etc.

    This is it I have enough, the arrogance of some people here are off the charts. You gave us culture.!!!Muslims contributed to the culture, yes, Muslims did bring some benefits to the economy. Sure. If that is what you meant, sure I agree.
    But Excuse me? Are you telling me,we, one of the oldest civilizations on Earth had no culture or economy before Muslims came? EXCUSE ME? And you guys blame the West for “arrogance”?
    When your Arab ancestors lived in tents and ate bark like barbarians, we already had one of the oldest civilizations on Earth. India is one of the oldest civilizations on Earth, a fact that cannot be denied. The Arabic numerals you prat about, it was from India. Get your arrogance under control.

  445. Iris says:

    President Xi on International Solidarity Day with the Palestinian People:

    Chinese President Xi Jinping sent a congratulatory message to a meeting held by the United Nations (UN) on Tuesday to observe the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People.

    In his message, Xi pointed out that the Palestinian issue, as a root problem in the Middle East, bears on regional peace and stability, on international equity and justice, and on human conscience and morality.

    To realize peaceful coexistence as neighbors between Palestine and Israel has not only been a dream of the Palestinian and Israeli people for generations, but is also a sincere hope of all nations in the region as well as the international community, Xi said. [..]

    Stressing that China attaches great importance to the Palestinian issue, President Xi said China always upholds international justice and morality, and supports the just cause of the Palestinian people to restore the legitimate rights of their nation as well as efforts conducive to the peaceful settlement of the Palestinian issue.

    https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-12-02/President-Xi-congratulates-UN-meeting-on-solidarity-with-Palestinians-VSThcddNo4/index.html

    • Thanks: Robjil
    • Replies: @christine
  446. Anon[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @Robjil

    Slave Hunting and Slave Redemption :As a Business Enterprise
    The Northern Black Sea Region in the Sixteenth to Seventeenth Century.

    Dariusz Kolodieziezcezyk

    Oriente Moderno
    Nuova Serie Anno. 25.86 Nr1
    The Ottoman and the Trade ( 2006)
    Pp149-159

    Slavery was an international complex multinational enterprise with offices for coordination in Turkey , Italy , France , upper Moscow, lower Volga, Crimea and south western part of Siberia . Papal clerics and Sicilian and Maltan royal cum privateers – all were involved .

  447. Metropole says:
    @Malla

    Excuse me? Arrogance has its limits. May be you do not know about Ashoka the Great and the Mauryas.

    Ashoka lived around 250 BC. Muslims arrived in India around 700 AD. That’s almost 1000 years later. There was no ‘India,’ just a bunch of squabbling primitive savages, worshipping 1000s of different idols and sacrificing humans to their idols. It’s one country now because Muslims conquered it all and united it. The British expanded it.

    [MORE]

    Like I have said previously, to make up for their pathetic backwardness Indians have rewritten history to make it seem like they had a glorious uninterrupted 5,000 year old civilization. That’s all fantasy, but there are enough people in the West who encourage this delusion.

    The British needed Hindu help to defeat Muslims, so they encouraged Hindus to turn against Muslims whereas previously they had been okay with Muslim rule. Once the British left the Hindus have worked themselves into an ever rising frenzy of hate.

    You Muslims are not that different from the Brahmins, lying slimeballs blaming the British for all your black deeds. Maybe Islamic fundus and Brahmanical Hindutvas deserve each other.

    Taxi, you may have no idea about me and my posts but I am a firm critique of the caste system, about the ill-treatment of Muslims in India right now, of Zionism, of Hindutva , of Modi. Those who know my post know this to be true. I have posted many posts in support of Islam as well as Arabs but I have posted many posts criticizing some aspects of Islam.

    First you insult Muslims and then you pretend that you’re a neutral observer. Once you call Muslims slimeballs do you expect to be taken seriously again? Being critical is one thing, hurling insults is another.

    You and that character Franklin Ryckaert seem to have the same agenda. To spread hate against Islam by deception. He pretends to be a Christian while being a fanatical Zionist. You pretend to be a neutral commentator while inserting lots of hate filled comments. After all, Israel and India have become best buddies and their common target is Islam.

    Plus, this thread is not about India.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Malla
  448. Talha says:
    @Metropole

    just a bunch of squabbling primitive savages

    This is not correct.

    Wa salaam.

    [MORE]

    Imam Biruni (ra) was probably the first of many that documented India in an anthropological manner. He was impressed by their mathematics and other sciences, he was not impressed by their paganism or theology.

    Keep in mind that the metallurgy of India was renowned in other parts of the world. The Arabs used to call the best swords “muhannad” (made from India) and it was a name they would give their sons.

    We have to be more accurate and nuanced, Bro – especially if we ask that of others for ourselves.

    • Replies: @Metropole
  449. Iris says:

    How the assassination of Mohsen Fakhrzadeh is really perceived by Middle-Easterners, Suni, Christian and Shia alike, who all have been on the receiving end of Israeli-US relentless aggressions for decades: translation of an opinion article by analyst Ibrahim Alouhsh:

    The Zionist targeting of Iranian nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, and a number of Iranian scientists before him, must be taken in its historical context, not just within the current political one.

    Often the Zionist entity brags about its scientific and technological achievements. And often we found those among us who bitterly compare, or even highlight the Arab Nation’s scientific lag behind Israel’s successes, without taking into consideration the following:

    Firstly:
    The Zionist entity’s progress compared to its surroundings is a Western decision. The West has historically provided its best tools for knowledge and science-production to Israel, while in the same time consistently seeking to withhold them from us.

    Secondly:
    The West has strived to fiercely strike any renaissance experience in the Arab world, from the experience of Muhammad Ali Pasha in Egypt in the first half of the nineteenth century, to the 21st century and the destruction of Iraq, and then the destruction of a number of Arab countries in the following years. These are but a few of the systematic Western effort directed against any Arab nation trying to improve in science and technology.

    Thirdly:
    The targeting of Iranian scientists and intellectuals is a recent phenomenon, but it was preceded by the large-scale targeting of Arab scientists and researchers for many decades, such as the killing of Iraqi scientists and researchers in the hundreds after the occupation of Iraq, and the systematic targeting of Syrian scientists in the midst of the “freedom revolution” that broke out in Syria since 2011 (and before that, of course, the execution of Muhammad Suleiman in Tartus in 2008, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Suleiman).

    Similarly, one should not forget the targeting of Arab and non-Arab scientists that Gamal Abdel Nasser hired to work on the development of the Al-Zafar, Cairo and Al Nasser missiles, of Egyptian scientists and of many others.
    Those who care to look a little through the spider web for Arab scholars and researchers assassinated throughout the 20th century will find dozens of names, and most probably hundreds of whom we do not know about.

    The conclusion is that scientific and technological progress is a political project, not an individual project, and a national political project in particular.
    Delaying, disabling or rather deliberately blocking scientific and technological progress is also an hostile political project, which is not aimed at scientists, researchers and intellectuals as individuals, but rather at their nations so they remain dependent and helpless in the field of scientific and technological development, and unable to acquire the elements of military and economic power necessary to their survival.

    This reflection very well summarises how educated Arabs think; China’s rise to superpower status is prayed for outside the blind and drunken Western world.

    • Thanks: Robjil
    • Replies: @Robjil
  450. Metropole says:
    @Talha

    [Too much off-topic India stuff. Don’t be surprised if your subsequent comments get trashed.]

    This is not correct.

    Wa salaam.

    Obviously, there are parallel histories written by different people at different times. People may never agree on anything because they’re following a different account. The issue here is that a person seems to be deliberately derailing the thread so that we get bogged down in endless, fruitless discussions.

    If Indians are so keen to participate then maybe we can discuss the fact that India and Israel have become close military partners. India is using Israeli weapons and advisors to crush Kashmiris since Israel is an expert in suppressing Muslims.

    [MORE]

    India loves how Israel treats Palestinians and wants to apply the same techniques. People who sympathize with Palestinians or are opposed to the Israeli-led Western assault on Islam should know very well that India is a full blown partner in it.

    New joint ventures hint at ‘burgeoning relationship’ between Israel and India
    https://www.defensenews.com/industry/2020/02/18/new-joint-ventures-hint-at-burgeoning-relationship-between-israel-and-india/

    Indian Diplomat Wants ‘Israel Model’ in Kashmir, Sets Off Controversy
    https://thewire.in/diplomacy/indian-diplomat-wants-israel-model-in-kashmir-sets-off-controversy

    Israel in Kashmir
    https://tribune.com.pk/story/2044363/israel-in-kashmir

    Even though the Indian intelligence agency, RAW, has had ties with Mossad since its inception in 1968, their mutual activities were always hidden because Indian authorities never wanted to provoke the displeasure of their Muslim population. But this has changed with the BJP government, wherein we have seen Modi and Netanyahu hugging each other and reports of Indian commandoes being trained on Israeli soil.

    • Replies: @Talha
  451. Metropole says:

    India’s jumping into Israel’s arms also explains many other things. Like why Indians are being elevated to top positions in America, UK, etc.

    Some of the largest US companies have now got Hindu CEOs. Microsoft, Google, etc. They have high positions in UK and soon a Hindu lady will become the President of America. Hindus are being promoted everywhere even though there may be many other people, including Muslims, who may be just as qualified.

    There’s obviously a pattern here and there’s a Jewish/Israeli angle to it. Those Americans who are crying about Jewish control will soon be crying about Jewish-Hindu control. It’s happening.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Colin Wright
  452. Talha says:
    @Metropole

    The chummy ties between Israel and India are acknowledged and a big problem. But Malla doesn’t seem to support that, at least to my knowledge.

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @Metropole
  453. Robjil says:
    @Iris

    The Israel firsters in the US have been doing something similar to the US. They are outsourcing tech jobs to little Israel. China or any nation that supports its people will do well in the future. Israelis and Elite Jewish culture has a long history of killing off the best competition. Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog! (Kill The Best Gentiles!) is the common theme. The US itself is getting this treatment. Western Europe is also getting this treatment. I can’t figure how Israel firsters think that they can rule a ruined world from little Israel.

    https://www.wrmea.org/2019-august-september/how-neocon-billionaire-paul-singer-is-driving-the-outsourcing-of-u.s.-tech-jobs-to-israel.html

    WITH NEARLY 6 MILLION AMERICANS UNEMPLOYED, and regular bouts of layoffs in the U.S. tech industry, major American tech companies like Google, Microsoft and Intel Corporation are nonetheless moving key operations, billions in investments, and thousands of jobs to Israel—a trend that has largely escaped media attention or concern from even “America first” politicians. The fact that this massive transfer of investment and jobs has been so overlooked is particularly striking given that it is largely the work of a single leading neoconservative Republican donor who has given millions of dollars to President Donald Trump.

    This massive transfer of the American tech industry has largely been the work of one leading Republican donor—billionaire hedge fund manager Paul Singer—who also funds the neoconservative think tank American Enterprise Institute (AEI), the Islamophobic and hawkish think tank Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), the Republican Jewish Coalition (RJC), and also funded the now-defunct Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI).

    Top U.S. tech companies have filled executive positions with former members of Israeli military intelligence and moved strategic and critical operations to Israel, boosting Israel’s economy at the expense of America’s. SUNC’s role in this marked shift merits the deepest scrutiny.

    • Agree: Iris, ariadna
    • Replies: @Robjil
  454. Iris says:
    @Metropole

    They have high positions in UK

    Very true. The UK’s Kamala Harris is a creature called Priti Patel, as morally disgusting and as physically deformed as her US counterpart.

    She used to hold the obscure position of International development secretary and became famous overnight after it was found out that she’d been having unauthorised meetings with Israeli politicians – including Benjamin Netanyahu – while being on “holiday” in Israel.

    She was obliged to resign from PM Theresa May’s government. It was found afterwards that she’d met on many other occasions than she admitted with the Israelis but did not even bother disclosing it to the PM.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-israel-trip-who-meet-benjamin-netanyahu-pm-minister-holiday-international-development-a8042376.html

    As a reward for her complete disregard for the British public and for ministerial standards of conduct, she was appointed by new PM Boris Johnson Secretary of State for the Home Department (Interior Minister), the 4th most important position in the government.

    This is the sad state of the UK: having little industry left but finance, weapons and oil, it is the ever obedient Zionist pawn and eager warmonger.
    British political elites are so proud to have caused two world wars that they strive day and night at bringing about the third to further enhance their record.

  455. Robjil says:
    @Robjil

    SUNC’s role in this marked shift merits the deepest scrutiny.

    https://www.wrmea.org/2019-august-september/how-neocon-billionaire-paul-singer-is-driving-the-outsourcing-of-u.s.-tech-jobs-to-israel.html

    What is this SUNC?

    In 2009, a book titled Start Up Nation: The Story of Israel’s Economic Miracle, written by American neoconservative Dan Senor and Jerusalem Post journalist Saul Singer (unrelated to Paul), quickly rose to the New York Times bestseller list for its depiction of Israel as the tech start-up capital of the world.

    Paul Singer was so inspired by Senor and Saul Singer’s ( unrelated to Paul) book that he decided to spend $20 million to fund and create an organization with a similar name. He created Start-Up Nation Central (SUNC) several years after the book’s release in 2009.

    Since its founding, SUNC has sought to transfer tech jobs from foreign companies to Israel by developing connections and influence with foreign governments and companies so that they “deepen their relationship with Israel’s tech industry.” Although SUNC has since expanded to include other sectors of the Israeli “start-up” economy, its focus has long remained on Israel’s tech, specifically its cybersecurity industry. Foreign investment in this single Israeli industry has grown from $227 million in 2014 to $815 million in 2017.

    The goal is to sent all the biggest companies of the west to little Israel.

    In addition to its own activities, SUNC appears to be closely linked to a similar organization, sponsored by Coca-Cola and Daimler Mercedes-Benz, called The Bridge, which also seeks to connect Israeli start-up companies with large international corporations

    • Thanks: ariadna
  456. Malla says:
    @Metropole

    Please do not make yourself look like a joker and a buffoon by writing stuff on topics you have knowledge about. It is for your own good.

    [MORE]

    squabbling primitive savages,

    Are you talking about your Arab ancestors? India is one of the oldest civilizations in the world. Only a lunatic would deny that.

    glorious uninterrupted 5,000 year old

    Yes many of the history written by Hinduvadi are nonsense.

    worshipping 1000s of different idols

    So were the Greeks, Romans, Ancient Chinese etc. Why don’t you debate the Chinese here on Unz on this issue and call them savages?

    The British needed Hindu help to defeat Muslims, so they encouraged Hindus to turn against Muslims whereas previously they had been okay with Muslim rule.

    Stupidly and arrogance has no bound but a nutcase who has no understanding of history but has dreamt up some nonsense in his head. Many Hindus were never OK with Muslim rule, you can make your nonsense version of history. Some were , many were not. The Brits militarily defeated Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs. They did not need any help. Many a times Muslims like the Nizam (BTW the last Nizam of Hyderabad was married to the daughter of the last Calpih and Ottoman Emperor) NEEDED British help in their wars against the Hindu Maratha Empire.

    Once you call Muslims slimeballs do you expect to be taken seriously again

    You truly are an idiot and an ignominious. READ THE POST CAREFULLY BEFORE RESPONDING LIKE A NUTCASE. Many Brahmans hide their own sins by blaming everything on the Muslims and especially the British. It seems some Muslims OF the SUBCONTINENT are doing the same w.r.t the British. That is w hat I meant. It was meant for only those Muslims and only form the Subcontinent, not other Muslims.
    As far as India and Israel, I am a big critique of that. India was pro-Palestine for a long time and never had any official relations with Israel. This pro-Israel behaviour is a much more recent behaviour. And by seeing the arrogance of some (NOT ALL) Muslims here, why would India not make an alliance with Israel? You guys may be to blame for this. Loose potential friends. Now live with it.
    But even with all the arrogance shown by some of you guys here, I still push for Indians to have a more balanced view of the conflict and sympathize with the Palestinian suffering. But now I partly understand why many Israelis say that their Arabs enemies are not a reasonable people. I agree too. Not all Arabs sure, but some of them some here on Unz.

    • Replies: @christine
  457. Metropole says:
    @Talha

    I don’t particularly care what this guy’s views are. But he’s done a fine job acting like a troll and getting on my nerves. I wasn’t planning to start posting opinions online but I kind of got sucked into it on this website. I think it was a mistake, reading too much politics just causes stress.

    I’m done for a while.

    • Replies: @Talha
  458. @Metropole

    ‘…There’s obviously a pattern here and there’s a Jewish/Israeli angle to it. Those Americans who are crying about Jewish control will soon be crying about Jewish-Hindu control. It’s happening…’

    Just make sure the rest of us don’t read about Bohdan Khmelnytsky.

  459. christine says:
    @Malla

    I like your balanced outlook that doesn’t blame it all on da jooz.

    Two thumbs up.

    • Thanks: Malla
    • Replies: @Larchmonter420
  460. christine says:
    @KA

    ‘Bible was not written by some junkies’.

    This just shows me more of your complete ignorance because there are no addictive qualities with entheogens.

    I could give you ‘heaps’ of evidence apart from acacia in the OT and from ancient egypt india NT etc but i will pass as u r blind spiritually.

    go grow a good sized pair and then come back for a chat when u have experience,,,,,,

    • Replies: @KA
  461. Here you go Taxi. Your boy is on the move. Second news flash. Israel will destroy the Iranian nuclear site for good before Biden takes office. If Hezbollah so much as twitches they will be pancaked in place. Hezbollah’s days are numbered so are their big boy dick rockets.

    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/hezbollahs-nasrallah-to-move-to-iran-amid-regional-tensions-report-650992

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Taxi
    , @MEexpert
  462. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Your grand- son will cal it as an expression of anti Semitism if somehow prompted to remember your gloating and click the links you just posted .

    The more you try to deny, more you become what you are already . You just end up fortifying it.
    Actually self -correction of the ills emanating from the soul is a fight and is called Jihad.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  463. Taxi says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Why bother reading jewish wank offs – I mean really now lol! First, neither you nor the mossad nor shin bet know where Mr. Nasrallah is in order to “assassinate” him, you silly moron. Second, let’s see the coward idf out of their hide-holes at the Leb border first lol!

    Shove that stupid propaganda up yer jaxxi motherfucker! The Hezb is coming to liberate the Galilee, like it or not.

    • Agree: L.K, ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @Larchmonter420
  464. Talha says:
    @Metropole

    I think it was a mistake, reading too much politics just causes stress. I’m done for a while.

    This is a wise course of action.To any Muslim who engages in discussions and debates online, I tell them that it is absolutely necessary to take breaks to spiritually detox and recover. This is not the greatest medium in which to exchange with other human beings.

    I used to get into more debates before, but now I have learned to use the block or mute or ignore feature with those people that I find no benefit in exchanging with or in reading their comments. I recommend this as well, Mr. Unz has made this quite easy to do.

    Wa salaam.

  465. @christine

    @Malla

    I like your balanced outlook that doesn’t blame it all on da jooz.

    Salam sister Fran,

    I used to think that Malla is a very high level bot, but he turned out to be a Real Hasbara. Each and every thread in favor of Palestinians (all religion included, Muslims and non-Muslims) he tries to hijack by winning what Muslims did to India and tries to derail the thread for the real purpose. What the Mugul Empire did in India has nothing to do with me or any other Muslim. It was done a long time ago and is subject to open discussion like any other history in a thread specifically for it.

    Almost the entire Egypt was Shia Muslims under the Fatimid Empire. Lady Fatima (as) is the daughter of the Prophet (saws) who is revered by Shia. Prophet loving used to call her Zahra. Azhar is the masculine noun of Zahra. The top Islamic learning center in Egypt is called Azhar and is named after her and founded in 970AD by the Fatimid. Saladin a Sunni Muslims who is revered by Sunni defeated the Fatimid, with rivers of flowing blood and forcefully converted them to Sunni like everywhere else in all Muslims’ countries the persecution always continued. Today, hardly any Egyptian know that they were Shia.

    Shia have always started and build the learning centers.
    Al-Azhar University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Azhar_University

    Best regards,

    Mohamed

    • Replies: @Malla
  466. @anon

    Gloating seriously have you read Taxi BS. She is dripping with dreams of conquering and spanking every Jew she can. I am pointing to facts. Hezbollah and the Shia dominance, resistance, hegemony, what ever the fuck you want to call it is on the run. Done and over. These creeps have done nothing but claw at Israel. When you call a country illegitimate to be so incredulous when they come after you.

    • Replies: @Anon
  467. @Taxi

    First, neither you nor the mossad nor shin bet know where Mr. Nasrallah is in order to “assassinate” him, you silly moron. Second, let’s see the coward idf out of their hide-holes at the Leb border first lol!

    Salam sister Taxi,

    Well said! Fran doesn’t realize that they are thousands of Sayyid NasrAllah in any given moment. To lose a NasrAllah will be a loss, but thousand will take his place and will be as spiritual like him. You briefly mentioned Imam Hussain (as), the son of Lady Fatima (as) and grandson of Prophet (saws). The genocide committed against him and his few men which numbered less than 100. Basically, the sixth Caliph of Muslims committed this genocide and savagery against the whole family of the Prophet (saws), just fifty years after his demise.

    The fifth Caliph (Commander of Not So Faithful) created a dynasty of Omayyad Caliphate. His son Yazid the sixth Caliph (Commander of Not So Faithful) demanded Imam Hussain to endorse his Caliphate. Imam Hussain refused and replied that after the demise of his grandfather the Prophet, his father Imam Ali (as) and his brother Imam Hassan (as) didn’t endorse any five Caliphs before him (Yazid) and he will follow the example of this elders. People thought Hussain with his few men is committing suicide.

    Quran promised the Prophet that through his frail daughter Fatima, he will have umpteen of descendants and his enemies the Omayyad will be cut off. All three Sayyid Khomeini, Sayyid Khamenei and Sayyid NasrAllah are descendants of the Prophet through Lady Fatima and Imam Ali. After the massacred of Hussain, the Omayyad disappeared within 150 years but their mantle was picked up by KSA and Wahhabis. ISIS is godsend, and Muslims realized that Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is not chosen by The Will of Allah. They also realized that none of the Caliphs were chosen by The Will of Allah, including the Omayyad Dynasty. Today, The Owners of KSA needs to move into 22nd century, and thanks to Baghdadi they have decided to throw the Caliphate under the bus.

    Best regards,

    Mohamed

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  468. KA says:
    @christine

    Interesting answer.

    OT, NT effects of drug !!!
    You need some PT -AT for your brain which might be under the influence .

    Drug won’t make you Aldus Huxley, S .Freud , William Halsted , or Stephen King
    Most likely you will be sharing your journey with fellow junkies in NA meetings .

  469. Anon[246] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    All I need to know if the entire anti Semitic charges were based on revaluation of the committed crimes against the innocents .

    Don’t you get angry when people dig out past crimes like terrorism against Arab , illegal entry on the back of the English French to the Allen bridge and through Damascus gate or rendezvous with Nazi in 30s or bragging about putting sanction in Iraq or Iran or 1967 war or bombing of Iraqi Osirik or intimacy with Botha government of S Africa and label them as anti Semitic canard ?

    Will this gloating by Israel on the killing of the scientists one day be a concern requiring suppression , erasure from network of knowledge and be called nothing but age old anti Semitism !!!

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  470. @Larchmonter420

    All this Sunni-Shia conflict is about who gets the power in Islam, either descendants of the prophet or appointed others. If has nothing to do with moral or spiritual questions, only with political power and that typifies Islam.

  471. Sirius says:
    @Rich

    Let’s see, the Muslims arrived in Jerusalem in, what was it, 636? The Crusaders in 1099. That’s over 360 years. I wouldn’t call 360 years a “recent” event as you say. Get your facts straight.

    Now if by the year 2300 or so the Palestinians or Syrians or any of their supporters haven’t managed to get Jerusalem back I would say it couldn’t be called a “liberation” anymore.

    • Disagree: Rich
  472. @Anon

    All I need to know if the entire anti Semitic charges were based on revaluation of the committed crimes against the innocents .

    Metropole #464

    If Indians are so keen to participate then maybe we can discuss the fact that India and Israel have become close military partners. India is using Israeli weapons and advisors to crush Kashmiris since Israel is an expert in suppressing Muslims.

    India loves how Israel treats Palestinians and wants to apply the same techniques. People who sympathize with Palestinians or are opposed to the Israeli-led Western assault on Islam should know very well that India is a full blown partner in it. .

    You and others (Metropole in his comment on this thread #464) are misrepresenting the conflict, this is not about anti semitism (the most over used word in the world), or bad or good. Obviously on this thread the Jews are bad very bad. There is a war going on between Jews and Muslims over a land dispute called Palestine/ Israel. The same is true of Pakistan and India.

    I believe that Israel is the eternal home of the Jewish people, with Jerusalem as it’s capitol. Muslims believe that Palestine is the home for the Muslims with Al Quds as it’s capitol.

    For whatever reason there is a need to propagandize this story as a fight between good and evil rather then a land dispute. The Muslims insist propagandizing the Jews as horrible people wanting to genocide and torture Palestinians, because they like to. Those in favor of the Muslims like Taxi and the other Muslims on this thread believe that the Jews are evil, horrible people and that the Muslim cause is honest moral and that they have Allah behind them.

    Let me straighten you out. There are good Jews, good Muslims, and good Hindus. There are bad Jews, Muslims and Hindus. People are people. There is no moral superior position in a land dispute. It is just a piece of property. This is a fight over different religions that have different claims. Pakistan was created when the Muslims wanted a separate country after India won int’s independence, because they could not get along.

    To frame these arguments as moral arguments like Germany vs. the Allies is timid, stupid and misses the point. This is war for the outcome of a land dispute. Jews could give a rats ass about anti-semitism. We only fight propaganda Israel is an apartheid colonial illegal state, that kills children and women for fun.

    There are Muslims on this site who day after day claim that Jews have an agenda. A hidden agenda to manipulate the world towards Zionism, thru money and power. Many people side with Israel because they believe their cause is just. Christians and Jews seem to have formed an alliance where at one time they were enemies. Alliances are formed for reasons other then power. It is indisputable that the Jews have more power then Muslims at this turn of the planet. But that is transitory and has not always been true. Times change circumstances. Many people side with the Muslims because they think their cause is just. It is all pretty arbitrary, and reading any more into it is to elevate the human condition to a fantasy. All humans fight.

    Talha has me on his ignore list, because he hates Zionist. He believes that the Jews should have settled their state in some area of Poland. Talha believes the Jews have no claim to Israel, although from time to time he thinks it should be shared. Whatever.

    You and Taxi and the rest of the Muslims on this site can think the Jews are scum, horrible genocidal people. You are entitled to your opinion. Israel will do whatever it has to do to survive. Kill scientist, take out nuclear sites whatever. There will never be a Palestinian state. There are 31 Arab Muslim countries and one Jewish. Muslims can run their 31 countries how they like only allowing Muslims in control. Muslims can settle where they like but cannot live in Israel as an equal citizens. This is what we will fight for. We have a moral arc we are following whether you agree with it or not it is there. The Muslims can fight with their morals. Everyone has their own rules.

    Right now the Jews have the upper hand militarily some day that may change, although there does exist a desire amongst most people in the ME to make peace with Israel and try and cooperate, to create peace and prosperity, with trade and tourism, to elevate the common people in the region for the good of everyone. Most people want to live better lives and are willing to sort out the differences rather then winner take all.

    Just frame the argument in a truthful light. You are never going to convince people that your cause is just. Your cause is just to you and those who believe what you believe.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Taxi
    , @christine
    , @Malla
    , @Barr
    , @Iris
  473. Anon[168] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Lies Zionist repeat
    1 God gave us the land
    2 Read the Bible It’s in the Bible
    3 we have been attacked by Arab . All we wanted was to come back to where we left 5000 yrs ag
    4 Israel accepted partition of 1947
    5 Israel was attacked by Arab in 1947 and 1967
    6 Israel offered peace to Arab
    7 Israel is a democratic country
    8 Israel gives USA more than it takes
    9 Israel is making peace
    10 Israel is a successful country made by hard work .

    In each of these lies , there is a core theme -the theme of creating new idea and new reality only to be destroyed tomorrow for another new idea and new reality .Those theme connect the lies of each and every day of the existence of the Zionism.
    When reminded in a different context , the idea of yesterday become another anti Semitic canard .

  474. Taxi says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Those in favor of the Muslims like Taxi and the other Muslims on this thread believe that the Jews are evil, horrible people and that the Muslim cause is honest moral and that they have Allah behind them.

    STFU with your hasbara framing! FACT: the Palestine issue is a MORAL one and the terrorist invading jews are the synagogue of satan who delight in mass murder and land-theft – this is ALL on record so STFU again. Now go enjoy the weather in Golders Green and countdown the destruction of the Apartheid state of israel.

    The only jews who belong to the holy land are Palestinian jews – not frigging ashkanzim like you, nor Yemeni nor Iraqi jews etc. PALESTINE BELONGS TO PALESTINIANS! Not to ‘muslims’ or ‘christians’ or terrorist jews like you!

    • Agree: Malla
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  475. christine says:
    @Fran Taubman

    It goes way beyond just a land dispute between Jews and Muslims when Jewish and non Muslim Christian Zionists with a greedy and evil empire building mentality feel it is normal to want to steal resources from countries such as Venezuela for example.

    If you believe that this is an acceptable and normal way to treat others then you aren’t even a Jew with a faith really because you disregard what your Torah is commanding of you in not stealing and murdering…..which are evil acts.

    It is about a battle between good and evil alright but it doesn’t mean that you have to be a Zionist to be of an evil mentality, as is very evident throughout history and even today.

    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  476. christine says:
    @Iris

    That’s fcuking hilarious from Xi about justice and morality considering how he and his ilk treats Muslims in China.

    • Replies: @showmethereal
  477. @christine

    “…then you aren’t even a Jew with a faith really because you disregard what your Torah is commanding of you in not stealing and murdering…”

    The Torah (OT) did command the Jews to murder the peoples of Canaan in order to steal their land. Read the book of Deuteronomy. The Ten Commandments with their prohibition of murder and theft were only meant for the behavior of Jews among themselves.

    • Replies: @christine
  478. @Taxi

    The number of Palestinians who were expelled at the creation of Israel and the number of Jews in Arab lands who were expelled and settled in Israel is about the same (750,000 to 800,000), so in a way we can speak about an “equal peoples exchange”. The difference is that Israel accepted and integrated those Arab Jewish refugees, while in Arab lands the Palestinian refugees are kept in overcrowded refugee camps to this day.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anon
    , @Malla
    , @Malla