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The True Right has always believed in strong leadership and the ability, as Thomas Carlyle wrote, of ‘great men’ to shape history. In his collection of lectures On Heroes, Hero-Worship and the Heroic in History, Carlyle identifies six types of hero: the Hero as Divinity, as Prophet, as Poet, as Priest, as Man of Letters and as King. This is not limited to the Right, for the Left also has its heroes: its revolutionaries and men of theory.

What we have seen since the 1960s is a new breed of hero that has emerged, firstly on the Left, but now increasingly on the Right: the Hero as Activist. The activist’s name on everyone’s lips at the moment, especially since his recent arrest and imprisonment, is Tommy Robinson. But is he a hero, and will he shape history?

As you will no doubt have realized from the photo above, I do not think he is a hero for our times. In fact, I do not think he is in control of much of what he says. From the very beginning, Robinson has had a dubious relationship with organised Jewry in Britain and this has meant toeing the line of “diversity and inclusion” (see picture above). While his identification of Islam as a problem and direct confrontation of Muslims has been admirable and shows real bravery, divorcing the problem from the subject of race has not just been deliberate, but a conscious dishonest and political choice to align himself with Jewish interests.

The English Defence League, after all, was formed in the image of the Jewish Defence League, a terrorist group that aligned itself to militant Negro groups in America. From the very beginning, despite doing good work in exposing Muslim paedophile gangs, it also promoted multi-racialism and attacked genuine nationalists in Britain who had been exposing the same as “racists”. The EDL under Robinson had various groups within it, including a Jewish section and an LGBT one. In other words, the EDL promoted the same agenda as the government. This is not to say there were not any good people in the EDL. There certainly were, but they were coerced into toeing the PC line, with Robinson being convicted of headbutting someone he referred to as a “neo-Nazi” in 2011.

Indeed, when Robinson left the EDL in 2013, he cited “extremism” as being the reason and suddenly started working with the Leftist/Muslim think tank Quilliam and appearing on the BBC, no longer as an antagonist, but as one of the fold. In 2016, he was invited for a trip to Israel by Jewish Youtuber “Brian of London” (but obviously rather more of Tel Aviv), where he became a mouthpiece for Israeli propaganda. He has since worked for Ezra Levant’s Rebel Media, a Jewish Canadian internet media outlet that has promoted Israeli intersts in the Middle East and Jewish interests in the West, including the usual Jewish hypocracy of advocating a Jewish ethnostate while undermining ethno-nationalism in other countries. Let us be clear: Robinson has always undermined ethno-nationalism for Whites. Just last year during the Charlottesville march, he tweeted this:

Now, whatever one thinks to the Charlottesville march, most of those involved were not “Nazis”, and given Robinson’s familiarity with internet news sources, I’m sure he knows this. He also knows about Jewish power and influence in Britain, particularly as he once tweeted a link to the Traitor Within blog, which exposes Jewish supremacism. Robinson explained this away in that he said he believed the article linked to was about Labour’s immigration policies. Indeed, Robinson has always avoided Jewish influence on immigration into Britain, the anti-British nature of it and them and the forbidding of dissent, with the Board of Deputies of British Jews once proudly advertising their communiqu to Tony Blair of 17th December 1998 on their website, the highlights of which are:

The Board has been at the forefront of the development of proposals for race relations legislation in the UK… The Defence Policy and Group Relations Division, which monitors the activities of political extremists and racists, has urged successive governments to enact and strengthen race relations legislation… It has also sought allies and made common cause with other religious and minority groups.

The Board played a fundamental part in urging upon government the first Race Relations Act which was based, in part, on reports prepared for the Board by Professor Geoffrey Bindman and Lord Lester of Herne Hill. Subsequently the Board has provided written and oral evidence to enquiries which preceded the passage of the Public Order Act 1986, the Criminal Justice Act 1994 and the Crime and Disorder Act 1998…..

The social climate affecting racism and racial discrimination has also evolved during that period, and many proposals have been put forward for correcting deficiencies or anomalies in the legislation […] But there remains some scope for improvement.

We regard the proposals of the CRE (Commission for Racial Equality) for legislative change to be well thought out and substantiated […] We are pleased to welcome and endorse the CRE’s published proposals.

In particular we draw attention to proposed 1B, which recommends that the Race Relations Act should apply to all aspects of the activities of Government and all Public Bodies. We would support the extension of the RRA to all government and public bodies. These organisations play a leading role in forming public opinion on social issues…..

The Board can also see the case for new legislation to combat discrimination and incitement on religious grounds […] We are also shortly to respond to the Government’s request that it might consider introducing specific legislation to outlaw Holocaust Denial…..

In addition to changes in the main body of national law, changes are needed in the rules and regulations of many institutions and organisations to decrease or remove discrimination on religious grounds.

I think that pretty much shows what organised Jewry in Britain has been up to in their own words. But onto the present case in hand, Tommy Robinson’s jailing, supposedly for speaking freely. Julie Lake’s article published here got it absolutely spot on: it was his own fault. I will go further: he went there with the express purpose of being arrested and imprisoned so that he could become “a martyr to the cause.” He knew full well that the terms of his suspended sentence received in Canterbury last year, where the judge was surprisingly lenient considering that even then he had been warned in Luton about interfering with ongoing trials, were that he would receive a harsh sentence if he attempted to prejudice another ongoing trial by reporting on it in such a way that prejudiced the jury. For those who do not wish to read the whole thing in the link: here are the highlights:

They were deliberate actions intending to take photographs of the defendants; they were actions which you continued to take, despite having been told that you should not do it, and I find, as a clear logical inference, that your intention on coming into the court building was to seek out the defendants, who you referred to in the way in which we have all seen and heard […] You made it abundantly clear, indeed it is abundantly clear that your mission and purpose was to try and film the defendants. The fact that you failed to do that was because we were able to take avoiding action. You then continued to film in the court building, even though you had been told not to, and these matters were then published on the media with, as I am aware, a very wide viewing rate, referring to the defendants by their religion and referring to them as “Muslim child rapists” or “Muslim paedophiles”…..

This contempt hearing is not about free speech. This is not about the freedom of the press. This is not about legitimate journalism; this is not about political correctness; this is not about whether one political viewpoint is right or another. It is about justice, and it is about ensuring that a trial can be carried out justly and fairly. It is about ensuring that a jury are not in any way inhibited from carrying out their important function. It is about being innocent until proven guilty. It is not about people prejudging a situation and going round to that court and publishing material, whether in print or online, referring to defendants as “Muslim paedophile rapists”. A legitimate journalist would not be able to do that and under the strict liability rule there would be no defence to publication in those terms. It is pejorative language which prejudges the case, and it is language and reporting – if reporting indeed is what it is — that could have had the effect of substantially derailing the trial…..

If something of the nature of that which you put out on social media had been put into the mainstream press I would have been faced with applications from the advocates concerned, I have no doubt, to either say something specific to the jury, or worse, to abandon the trial and to start again. That is the kind of thing that actions such as these can and do have, and that is why you have been dealt with in the way in which you have and why I am dealing with this case with the seriousness which I am…..

The question therefore comes down to what the appropriate disposal should be. In my judgment, an apology, although it is an apology which I accept and for which I thank you, is not sufficient. Neither do I feel in this case that a financial penalty is appropriate. It seems to me that this does need to be met with a custodial sentence. The only question in my mind is whether it might, in the circumstances and bearing in mind that which Mr. Kovalevsky has told me, and which I accept from him about the potential dangers that you might face were I to send you into custody immediately, and bearing in mind the need to ensure that this trial is kept on track, and bearing in mind the fact that, as he says, you will now be under no illusions whatsoever as to what you can and cannot do, whether it might be possible in your case to suspend the sentence of imprisonment which I would otherwise have imposed…..

The sentence, therefore, that I pass upon you […] is one of three months’ imprisonment which will be suspended for a period of 18 months. That will be suspended. There will be no conditions that need to be attached to that suspended sentence, but you should be under no illusions that if you commit any further offence of any kind, and that would include, I would have thought a further contempt of court by similar actions, then that sentence of three months would be activated, and that would be on top of anything else that you were given by any other court. In short, Mr. Yaxley-Lennon, turn up at another court, refer to people as “Muslim paedophiles, Muslim rapists” and so on and so forth while trials are ongoing and before there has been a finding by a jury that that is what they are, and you will find yourself inside. Do you understand? Thank you very much.

Furthermore, it was made clear that the Leeds trial was under reporting restrictions, as stated in an article in The Examiner among other places from the beginning of the trial. Note well the words: “We understand the trial will carry reporting restrictions which would only allow any reporting on conclusion of the case.” The case is not yet concluded, as more are awaiting sentencing. And, as Julie Lake stated, the defendants’ lawyers may now be able to argue for a mistrial. What is as bad is that the whole case has now been forgotten in favor of the Tommy Robinson Show. His grandstanding has made himself the center of attention, and, while I understand the masses’ need for heroes, he has done it at the expense of what is really important: the victims and their families.

What has also disappointed me are the comments that went into moderation, with the utmost filth being written by the army of blind Tommytards — and I am not ashamed to say that I deleted them. I do not say that all who have fallen for Tommy Robinson’s charm and patter are Tommytards, but they need to find better heroes. I understand that the media have built him up as a legitimate rebel leader and working-class hero by constantly interviewing him and giving him air time. Jeremy Bedford-Turner was never given air time, who is currently serving twelve months for so-called hate speech. And where were the talking heads of the alternative media when he was sent down? Where was Lauren Southern, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Joseph Watson and co. then? Why haven’t they mentioned Alison Chabloz’s trial? Oh right, the power they criticized was Jewish. And there’s the double standard. Their trials have been lobbied for by the very group that Robinson worships.

Here’s what I expect next: I expect leading politicians in Israel to criticise the British government over its handling of Tommy Robinson in order to gain the support of ordinary Britons for Israel and organised Jewry at large. This will mean they will be free to continue the promotion of miscegenation and decadence in British culture. Tommy Robinson’s celebrity will grow — expect a book out soon! And he will lead — oh yes, he will lead — us all to the promised land of kosher fake nationalism, along with the likes of Anne Marie Waters and her “For Britain” party.

And now, here is the real hero when it comes to exposing Muslim child-rape gangs — or rather heroine — who is sadly now deceased. She was Marlene Guest, a woman who worked tirelessly compiling dossiers of evidence and petitioning the police, media and government to investigate and prosecute those responsible, and to do their duty in protecting White children. She continued in her duty while battling cancer right up to her death at the end of 2014. It is a sad fact that the real heroes get no fanfare in the present age, for real heroes are given no air time, but it is my privilege to have known her.

Source: https://mjolnirmagazine.blogspot.co.uk/2018/05/hero-worship-and-tommytards.html

(Republished from Counter-Currents Publishing by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Randal says:

    All, sadly, valid criticisms. Robinson, the EDL and other parts of the pseudo-nationalist British scene that focus on Islam and pander to jewish interests are clear examples of why anyone whose obsession is with solely with islam, and not with immigration, race, other foreign religious an ultural influences, to say nothing of all the crimes of political correctness, should be regarded as suspect. It would be nice to try to be inclusive and support them, but these groups are generally aggressively hostile to genuine nationalists, abusing them as “racists”, “anti-Semites”, “homophobes” – thereby employing and reinforcing all the establishment left’s weapons.

    Though that said, the Islam issue is a powerful and important one, and it is a real shame that people like Robinson, the EDL etc make it just too dangerous to focus too heavily upon it.

    The real victims here are precisely the ones least reported and least supported – Jeremy Turner and Alison Chabloz, who were convicted of supposed crimes, not for an intentional publicity stunt like Robinson’s, nor for a childish prank like Meechan, but for expressing serious political positions (albeit in Chabloz’ case in musical form) that ought absolutely to be counted as protected free speech.

    All these suppressions of speech should be opposed, of course, but those are the most heinous and the ones that most directly trace back to nefarious jewish lobby influence, both in pushing for the laws used to assault them and in using their political influence to press the establishment (political, police and prosecution) into applying them so abusively.

    the Board of Deputies of British Jews once proudly advertising their communiqu to Tony Blair of 17th December 1998 on their website

    In a minute Tyrion2 will be here to insist that there’s nothing to see here, and people being locked up for saying things jews don’t like being said is no reason to suppose jews have undue influence.

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    In a minute Tyrion2 will be here to insist that there’s nothing to see here, and people being locked up for saying things jews don’t like being said is no reason to suppose jews have undue influence.
     
    Your definition of 'undue influence' seems to be having the same 'protection' under the law as others.

    That 'protection' may be illiberal but practically every institution in UK society supports it and every interest organisation tries to take credit.

    I know your response will be that "muh Chabloz made a satirical song and that's a first" but focussing on it being a song is proof of your disingenuousness. Regardless, she'll receive a small fine for her nonsense. A shame but hardly out of whack with what I or anyone would receive for a similar song that crossed PC taboos were it suffiiciently promoted.

    Obviously her repeated performance at the London Forum (an organisation that's main effect is to boost the self-esteem of its deluded participants by exaggerating the scale and nefariousness of those whom they imagine are their enemies) put Chabloz's head above the parapet.

    This is unfortunate for her but presenting yourselves as autistic Nazis whom everyone thinks are pathetic losers while screeching of your own importance will attracts some bullies. That's how bullies work.

    You may not like the above paragraph but is it wrong?

    I listened to Tommy Robinson's podcast with James Delingpole. He is obviously a bright, passionate and committed individual. Unfortunately it was also clear that he is a very vain man. And it seems that said vanity undid him in this latest malarkey. That said, the writer of this piece is an order of magnitude vainer and with a fraction of the justification.

    A little realism about yourselves and your ideology's standing would go a long way. But then, that would be a paradox. The entire point of your political preening is to psychologically 'benefit' by feeling good through Walter Mitty type fantasizing.
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  2. Unzie, old boy, you’ve been supporting the wrong Cricket Team.
    We need a lot more david YORKCHIRE, and a lot less john DERBYSHIRE.

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    Oops, that should have been YORKSHIRE.
    , @Dave Bowman
    Bravo..! John "I don't have the balls to admit the Jewish / Israel problem" out for a duck... !
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  3. Sounds like America, none of the pols represent the majority of people, you have the “right”, that supports war and Israel, and the “left” that floods the country with immigrants but pretends to be anti-war.
    In reality both are the same, its all just lies till they get elected, then they stab you in the back for the money. They’re less than prostitutes.
    This is why most people don’t bother voting. Its all same in the end. Sad!
    Where are the people protesting the granny being locked up for questioning the holohoax?

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    You're correct. Don't sell the conservatives short, though...They also flood the country with migrants. Different goals...For the Left it's Native displacement, for the Right it's Chamber of Commerce and corporate donors.
    , @Harbinger

    "Where are the people protesting the granny being locked up for questioning the holohoax?"
     
    Think about this for a minute?
    If it was found out that the holocaust was a lie and the figures greatly exaggerated what do you think the impact would be on Jewry. They would not only be called out and eventually seen as the compulsive liars that they are, but their financial empire would instantly collapse. All of the shrines built (holocaust museums), throughout the west would be demolished. All funding for Israel would stop. All funds from Germany would have to be paid back. Investigations would start all over as Jews were kicked out of positions of power, such as into the USS Liberty, 9/11, 7/7 etc. Israel would become a rogue state, most certainly with the west uniting to remove it permanently, dissolving the Balfour Declaration. Jews would not be safe in any western city, especially with no longer having control of the msm and academia, the truth will be told of the past. Plans for white genocide, behind the mass immigration of Muslims and Africans to destroy the indigenous.....

    The bottom line is a simple one, if people started to protest Ursula Haverbeck being incarcerated and the truth started to out, it would bring about a REAL holocaust of Jews, not the phony 6million, but instead the 15 million worldwide, where it would literally be open hunting season on them, 24/7.
    Jews are absolutely terrified that the truth will come out about their deceit throughout history. It is why they have total control of academia, the church and the msm (among many other institutions) because these two are the most important for the indoctrination and brainwashing of the public. This is why they are rapidly seeking control of the internet and pushing through as much anti freedom legislation in the form of anti terrorism legislation in order to completely control the narrative and destroy any chance of people finding out the truth. They know that if there is one slip up, their game is over for good.
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  4. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:

    All roads lead to Jews, on both sides of the Atlantic.

    Why will this menacing tribe stops menacing? When hell freezes over?

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  5. FKA Max says: • Website

    Great article!

    Jordan Peterson’s (indirect) connection to the Jewish Defense League (which I believe is a Mossad front group) through his relationship with Jewish-Canadian, neocon extraordinaire Ezra Levant: https://www.unz.com/isteve/forward-is-jordan-peterson-enabling-jew-hatred/#comment-2328862

    ”But my own suspicion is that the Israeli Mossad had a hand in the thing,” he said, referring to the Israeli secret service. ”They probably used J.D.L. local people who did the technical work on it, local terrorists.” – https://www.nytimes.com/1985/11/09/us/fbi-says-jewish-defense-league-may-have-planted-fatal-bombs.html

    http://www.unz.com/article/a-reply-to-jordan-peterson/#comment-2330137

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    Jordan Peterson’s (indirect) connection to the Jewish Defense League (which I believe is a Mossad front group) through his relationship with Jewish-Canadian, neocon extraordinaire Ezra Levant:
     
    Clearly Jordan Peterson is allowed to do his anti-feminist thing because he is pro Jew.

    The question is how can an intellectually honest man be pro Jew/Israel? Knowing about AIPAC, ADL, IDF, and Mossad - how can anyone support Jews and at the same time claim intellectual rectitude?

    Jew feminism is the mother of the Western feminism that Peterson opposes. The hate element of feminism, flows from Jew male unyielding top-down poor treatment of Jew women. In Jew culture, male/female relationships are contentious. Jew men are never faithful to Jew wives. Jew women’s hate for male Jew control over them, has been projected onto all males.

    This negative hateful cultural situation is not hard to see. Someone of Peterson’s intellect must realize this. Yet he says nothing, because if he did, he would be shut up by Jew hegemony over Western culture.

    Jew hegemony over our culture is the real problem – feminism is just part of it.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Maintain Hope --- Love Idealism --- Art
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  6. @Verymuchalive
    Unzie, old boy, you've been supporting the wrong Cricket Team.
    We need a lot more david YORKCHIRE, and a lot less john DERBYSHIRE.

    Oops, that should have been YORKSHIRE.

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    Wrong nonetheless.
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  7. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal
    All, sadly, valid criticisms. Robinson, the EDL and other parts of the pseudo-nationalist British scene that focus on Islam and pander to jewish interests are clear examples of why anyone whose obsession is with solely with islam, and not with immigration, race, other foreign religious an ultural influences, to say nothing of all the crimes of political correctness, should be regarded as suspect. It would be nice to try to be inclusive and support them, but these groups are generally aggressively hostile to genuine nationalists, abusing them as "racists", "anti-Semites", "homophobes" - thereby employing and reinforcing all the establishment left's weapons.

    Though that said, the Islam issue is a powerful and important one, and it is a real shame that people like Robinson, the EDL etc make it just too dangerous to focus too heavily upon it.

    The real victims here are precisely the ones least reported and least supported - Jeremy Turner and Alison Chabloz, who were convicted of supposed crimes, not for an intentional publicity stunt like Robinson's, nor for a childish prank like Meechan, but for expressing serious political positions (albeit in Chabloz' case in musical form) that ought absolutely to be counted as protected free speech.

    All these suppressions of speech should be opposed, of course, but those are the most heinous and the ones that most directly trace back to nefarious jewish lobby influence, both in pushing for the laws used to assault them and in using their political influence to press the establishment (political, police and prosecution) into applying them so abusively.

    the Board of Deputies of British Jews once proudly advertising their communiqu to Tony Blair of 17th December 1998 on their website
     
    In a minute Tyrion2 will be here to insist that there's nothing to see here, and people being locked up for saying things jews don't like being said is no reason to suppose jews have undue influence.

    In a minute Tyrion2 will be here to insist that there’s nothing to see here, and people being locked up for saying things jews don’t like being said is no reason to suppose jews have undue influence.

    Your definition of ‘undue influence’ seems to be having the same ‘protection’ under the law as others.

    That ‘protection’ may be illiberal but practically every institution in UK society supports it and every interest organisation tries to take credit.

    I know your response will be that “muh Chabloz made a satirical song and that’s a first” but focussing on it being a song is proof of your disingenuousness. Regardless, she’ll receive a small fine for her nonsense. A shame but hardly out of whack with what I or anyone would receive for a similar song that crossed PC taboos were it suffiiciently promoted.

    Obviously her repeated performance at the London Forum (an organisation that’s main effect is to boost the self-esteem of its deluded participants by exaggerating the scale and nefariousness of those whom they imagine are their enemies) put Chabloz’s head above the parapet.

    This is unfortunate for her but presenting yourselves as autistic Nazis whom everyone thinks are pathetic losers while screeching of your own importance will attracts some bullies. That’s how bullies work.

    You may not like the above paragraph but is it wrong?

    I listened to Tommy Robinson’s podcast with James Delingpole. He is obviously a bright, passionate and committed individual. Unfortunately it was also clear that he is a very vain man. And it seems that said vanity undid him in this latest malarkey. That said, the writer of this piece is an order of magnitude vainer and with a fraction of the justification.

    A little realism about yourselves and your ideology’s standing would go a long way. But then, that would be a paradox. The entire point of your political preening is to psychologically ‘benefit’ by feeling good through Walter Mitty type fantasizing.

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    Your definition of ‘undue influence’ seems to be having the same ‘protection’ under the law as others.
     
    You really are deeply in denial aren't you? As a matter of interest, when was the last time you think someone was locked up for saying nasty things about Christianity or about white people? Come to that, when was the last time anyone was searched out by a black or muslim group for posting an obscure satirical song about them to the internet, and they had the clout to initiate a private prosecution and bully the police and cps to actually push it all the way to trial and get a conviction and a likely jail sentence?

    Oh wait, that's right - the answer is that it has never been done before. Though now that the deep pockets and establishment influence of the jewish lobby have created a precedent we will probably soon see such prosecutions being pursued by other groups such as muslim and black identity lobbies. I'm sure you'll be pleased to see that (while inevitably insisting it's not the fault of the jewish identity groups that broke the ground for them).

    You could just have agreed with the self-evident truth that we have a huge problem with suppression of political opinion, and that jewish groups are at the forefront of enabling and promoting the problem, instead of stepping up to bat for your identity group. You could have chosen to side with the victims against the perpetrators. But somehow you chose the other option. Of course, it would be anti-Semitic to suggest that your identity loyalty played any part in your convenient revision in this case of your past claimed adherence to freedom of speech.


    screeching of your own importance
     
    This and most of the rest of your post would appear to be mere desperate abuse on your part, and clearly false. Why do you feel the need to resort to it?
    , @RVBlake
    This article is well-written and informative. Whatever vanity and lack of justification you perceive on Yorkshire's part is obviously your faulty perception. As you once helpfully commanded me: Next time read the damned article.
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  8. I really wish Anglo-American nationalists would cut the conspiratorial BS and just take people on face value (unless they have real evidence of corrupt activity, which they rarely do). Robinson has never claimed to be an ethno-nationalist. He is simply a right-wing liberal who is opposed to Islamisation because Islam is hostile to western liberal values. As a right-wing liberal he is also likely to oppose white nationalism since white nationalism is a collectivist ideology and he is an individualist. People do actually have ideological positions which influence their actions. Not everything people do is pre-determined by tribal loyalties or opportunities for personal gain. As a formerly prosperous trades contractor he certainly hasn’t benefited financially from being a high profile critic of Islamic immigration.

    European alt-righters like Martin Sellner and Tom Sunic don’t get bogged down with conspiratorial thinking and focus instead on positively promoting their own ideas. Why can’t the Anglo-American alt right grow up and do the same?

    The conspiratorial mentality of British and American nationalists is a big turn off to most voters.

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    In fact, Tommy Robinson even read Martin Sellner's brilliant speech on ethno-nationalism and free speech at speakers corner when Martin Sellner was detained and then banned from the UK. While my personal views lie closer to that of Martin Sellner, I'm not going to throw Tommy Robinson under the bus because he doesn't tick off all the boxes. Let's not forget that in Europe Islamic immigration is a bigger slice of the great replacement than it is in the US and elsewhere.
    , @The Unrecorded Man
    Well said. I was thinking that I would have to write something to counter that nonsense but you've done it for me. Thanks.
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  9. If you’re a humble fish, and there are aggresive piranhas in your stretch of the river, then it makes sense to support the fish who are fighting the piranhas. However, if those ‘fighting fish’ are also friends with the poisonous frogs who introduced the piranhas, you start to wonder what’s going on. Maybe it’s time to go after the frogs?

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  10. vinteuil says:

    (1) Can anyone explain to me just exactly how what TR was doing here could possibly “prejudice the jury” in this case? I mean, really explain it, without resort to legalese?

    (2) What material difference does it make what TR thinks or says about Israel & the jews? Does he have any influence over public policy, here?

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    There was no jury.
    , @Randal

    (1) Can anyone explain to me just exactly how what TR was doing here could possibly “prejudice the jury” in this case? I mean, really explain it, without resort to legalese?
     
    The whole idea of "influencing the jury" by general news and publicity is a questionable one, but it is one that is generally accepted by British courts. There's certainly a legitimate argument for trying to change that, perhaps even protesting it, but it's not why Robinson got into trouble - he got into trouble for breaching a court order involving a suspended sentence, in circumstances in which he must have known it would happen and presumably intended for it to happen in order to generate publicity.

    Contrast that with the genuine victims Jeremy Turner and Alison Chabloz, who are in prison or facing prison merely for expressing opinions.

    (2) What material difference does it make what TR thinks or says about Israel & the jews? Does he have any influence over public policy, here?
     
    The problem isn't really what he says about Israel or jews in itself (though imo it is inherently questionable to worry about muslim influence whilst approving of the jewish influence that promotes speech censorship, interferes in our politics and encourages our interventionist policies for the benefit of Israel), so much as his practice (and the practice of movements like the EDL and similar pro-Israel supposedly "nationalist" groups) of using establishment attack terms against conservatives/nationalists who do not go along with his subservience to pc dictates, on homo-ism and race dogma as well as on Israel and the jewish issue.
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  11. RVBlake says:
    @redmudhooch
    Sounds like America, none of the pols represent the majority of people, you have the "right", that supports war and Israel, and the "left" that floods the country with immigrants but pretends to be anti-war.
    In reality both are the same, its all just lies till they get elected, then they stab you in the back for the money. They're less than prostitutes.
    This is why most people don't bother voting. Its all same in the end. Sad!
    Where are the people protesting the granny being locked up for questioning the holohoax?

    You’re correct. Don’t sell the conservatives short, though…They also flood the country with migrants. Different goals…For the Left it’s Native displacement, for the Right it’s Chamber of Commerce and corporate donors.

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    For the Left it’s Native displacement, for the Right it’s Chamber of Commerce and corporate donors.
     
    No, it's for the globalist Money Power, which sits at the heart of London and which accounts for a huge chunk of Britain's GDP. The goal is the destruction of the nation state (already openly declared redundant in Trudeau's Canada), and the means to destroy the nation state is to destroy the nation. In Britain that means destruction of the indigenous population as a racial and cultural entity through a process that might well be called Canadianization, i.e., suppressed native reproduction and mass replacement immigration imposed by a PC state and police apparatus.

    And in fact that is exactly in accordance with the the theory of civilizational development, as described by Carroll Quigley (historian of the Rhodes-Milner-Rothschild-Coucil on Foreign Relations conspiracy for global governance). The imperial periphery becomes wealthier than the center by adopting the most advanced technology from the center while discarding the cultural baggage, and the wealth of the periphery (particularly in the current era the wealth of the US) leads to military domination of the center by the periphery.

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  12. notanon says:

    politics aside – marlene would have been pleased the full scale of the evil being done is getting closer to breaking through the media’s maginot line.

    and if the full truth does come out then people like Marlene will finally get the due they didn’t get in life.

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  13. Stogumber says:

    Ezra Levant, for all his faults, did really good work in his fight against the Canadian “Human Rights Commissions” – and as this system has spread over more and more countries, Levant’s book “Shakedown: How our government is undermining democracy in the name of human rights. McLelland & Stewart. 2009″ is irreplacable as a source and he is quite open in attacking a lot of revered Jewish organizations in Canada.

    I admit that the British law has a traditional preference for “gag orders” – but may we remember that the U.S. tradition is very different and follows the doctrine of Oliver Wendell Holmes that “sunlight (not darkness!) is the best disinfectant”. Also the gag order system is overdone when even the present legal situation of Tommy Robinson cannot be published in Britain without committing a crime – could this article have been published in Britain at all? And if not, wherefore defending the British system?

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  14. Reading articles like this I always wonder why things must be made so complicated.

    Jewish power exists, no doubt about it, just now Dutch minister of foreign afffairs Blok at the UN urges Russia to play by the rules of international law.
    If the Dutch government does this in the MH17 affair, in my opinion not.
    But Blok did not speak about Israel following internatioal rules.
    ‘All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others’.

    Then the problems with Muslims.
    Muslims do have a different culture, no doubt about it.
    Men are important, women and children less.
    Separation between religion and state, alien to them, as it was long ago with us.
    The western terror in Muslim areas and countries is a factor in why they migrate to the enemy.
    Does anyone think they so admire our terror that they want to adapt to our culture ?

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    I would add that given their impotence against Western terror in their countries, for many muslims their behaviour in Western countries is a way to exact revenge for what is being inflicted upon them. Whether we like or dislike Islam, and given where I come from I very much doubt I can be suspected of being an islamophile, Western elites are the most guilty party and Western people have empowered Western elites. As for Yaxley-Lennon, he's what the French call a "guignol".
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  15. ok, guess i am a tommytard, even though i never heard of the guy until this recent dustup…
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    AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, WHY would ANYONE DEFEND the ‘right’ (?) of the state to limit reporting, media coverage, etc, as the author is doing in his zeal to get robinson ? ? ?
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    AS IF limiting both reporting about, and meta reporting about the subsequent arrest of robinson was supposed to be a ‘good thing’… IF that is what the author is proposing, then i don’t care whatever else he says, he is no friend of freedom…
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    stupid brits and euros, they have NEVER gotten free speech ‘right’, and now that we are following their ‘lead’, we are losing ours with nary a whimper… in fact, short-sighted wannabe dictators of both the left and reich screech full-throatedly for *their* censorship to be done by the state… fucktards…
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    without free speech, all other rights crumble for lack of voice…
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    anyone for any reason at any time who espouses censorship is NO defender of freedom, PERIOD…

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    Absolutely correct.
    Part of the problem I have with the article, is that his "reporting" has different information than other sources.
    One report states that he was arrested for "breach of the peace", yet was transferred to another court and sentenced for "contempt of court". If true, he was denied due process.
    One report says the jury was deliberating, another says the court was being recalled for sentencing.
    If the jury was deliberating, Robinson's reciting of information in the public domain will have no effect on the jury. If the court was being recalled for sentencing, nothing Robinson said could have affected their already made decision.
    That only leaves the judge. If the judge thinks Robinson's reading of information in the public domain, rather than the facts of the case, will influence his sentencing, then the judge should be removed from the bench.
    On top of that, there is a gag order on Robinson's proceedings. No one really knows what he was charged with, what he was convicted of, and what evidence, for or against, was presented.
    I don't care who Robinson is or what he stands for. The issue is that Britain is acting like a police state, and Robinson has been made a poitical prisoner. This is a continuation of the war against native Britons. More than a decade ago, Nick Griffin was prosecuted for commenting on the grooming gangs in Rotherham (an open secret) during a private meeting, the police state failed in getting a conviction. The solution of course, is changing or perverting the law to ensure convictions against all who are opposed to the destruction of their homeland.
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  16. Harbinger says:

    Been stating for ages now that Tommy Robinson is controlled opposition along with the rest of the ‘alt right’ Youtuber sensations to spring up of late – Paul Joseph Watson (and Alex Jones obviously), Jordan Peterson, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Ruben, Stephen Crowder, Gavin McInnes, Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone, Faith Goldy, Milo Yiannopolous, Douglas Murray (although not a YouTuber)…..

    The list goes on and on.

    I am now beginning to realize what’s the point in writing anymore when people are so easily coerced into supporting Israel and not bother cutting through the BS and realize that the Jew is evil in this world, controlling both the left and the right narrative? No matter what evidence you give, from history to present day, until they reclaim back the slurs of nazi and racist, nothing will stop the utter destruction of Europe and the west.

    They are simply far to stupid to realize that with every new ‘hero’ that is put up for them to follow, they sacrifice more of their traditional values. Tommy Robinson and all the shills mentioned are pro immigration, pro multiculturalism, pro homosexuality, pro multiracial societies but in order to get the support of the moronic right, they oppose feminism and transgenders.

    Tommy Robinson speaks of how he went to the BNP with two of his black mates and the BNP told him that their party was for the preservation of the white peoples of the UK and that his friends weren’t welcome. Of course he said that he told them all to get lost and stormed out.

    It sickens me, because quite frankly I don’t care what happens to the sellout Robinson. I have a strong suspicion that he will probably be murdered in prison BY A MUSLIM which will set off even more hatred for Muslims as is the plan. He’s a patsy, like Lee Harvey Oswald, most certainly promised that he’ll be looked after no matter how rough the ride gets, failing to realize that his execution had already been planned, long before he signed his soul to Zion. There are many Jack Rubys waiting in prison for him.

    I have continually, on many forums tried to point out to nationalists in the UK that you are either white and British or you are not British. I have pointed out that racial origin defines one’s nationality and that when you grant citizenship to those outside of it, you destroy the concept of nation. People just don’t get it. They fail to see that after WW2, when the Race Acts came in and West Indians were granted citizenship in the UK, the nations they were granted nationality of INSTANTLY ended.
    If all the apples wanted to become bananas, what’s the point in having an apple and banana definition anymore?

    I’m beginning to realize that people deserve the society they live within. If they are not prepared to educate themselves and see that Jewry has been a cancer on this earth, since its creation and that they are seeking for the ultimate genocide of white peoples and their cultures, then quite frankly, they’ll deserve that when it happens. They have only themselves to blame as the truth is and always has been out there.

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    Monoculture nations of Japan, S. Korea, the PRC are all quite strong and will remain so for as long as anyone can estimate. Of course, their high average IQ helps, compared to low IQ monocultures of Africa, etc. Even the low IQ monocultures seem better than multi-culti diverse "nations".

    Multi-culti "nations" of ___________ (fill in the blank) are all dysfunctional, drowning in debt, scarred by crime and violence, spiraling ever worse by the month. Their tribalized politics makes reform impossible. Their main hope is a strong man from their historic ethno-core to become a benevolent dictator and restore their core.
    , @Them Guys
    Much of these 3rd world immigrant agendas and policies are a direct cause of, for too long now, 50+ yrs. Most of the white Christian sects have taken Christs words to "Go to every nation and make believers/Christians out of them" seriously as they should have....However, as we see so often from all these do-gooders and virtue signalers, they always totally Ignore the rest or the other verses also stated... Such as yes while Christians are told to go into the world etc....Christs words also said..


    "And when He sent the twelve out and seventy additional persons out so to spread the gospel of Christ....He, Christ, Warned them all to take heed and remember to also only attempt to convert the unbelievers ONCE....And in EVERY town, city or nation they ended up in to preach that as long as They And their Gospel message was well received....Then it was okay to remain for supper as was the custom afforded to travelers....And also to feel safe if spending the night when also offered to them."....They also were told to remain just long enough to get the new believers who do accept the gospel up to speed so they then can finish the gospel education job on their Own..and to Then Leave and go elsewhere....Not Bring hoards of those peoples back home with them!


    BUT...Also stated or more like an Order to obey was that, "If folks in ANY place you end up in Reject You or the gospel you preach....LEAVE ASAP Fast, and when at end of that towns main road, Stop and make certain those who rejected it and or you, See you Shake the towns dust off of your sandals... And, Do Not remain for supper Nor spend a night of sleep there".


    Then He explained that any who failed to heed and Obey these commands , it would be very likely that even Christ would be Unable to fully keep them safe and protected from any evil townsfolk who desired to harm the preachers.


    Keep in mind that to "Shake off the town roads dust from your sandals" was Akin to today to give someone the Middle Finger aka a fuck You! to them.


    And reason for inability to assure 100% safety in places where folks reject them or the message. Is due to everyone, even evil doers have Free Will and god does not interfere usually with that personal free will.....They will later pay for bad free will choices yes...But in mean time a person such as those spreading the good word, could still be harmed or killed in such places.


    Okay...Now this is how todays and past 50+ yrs of Christian do gooders who think they copycat and act in same way to spread the gospel etc....Go totally 180 degrees wrong.


    Do todays evangelizers make but One attempt? NO....They keep returning again and again, they try every possible method known to man to convert the, usually typically remote savage africans for example.


    They have massive "Meals-On-Wheels" programs...."Do you wish to believe in Jesus?....(while holding aloft a huge Ham Sandwich in air so entire starving crowd can see it being offered).


    Do half starved savage tribal africans trade off a belief in Jesus for a ham sandwich? Of Course they Do!


    And no matter what....The do gooders keep returning again and again, going on over 50 years for many now. Entire multi Billion $$ non profits have been erected based upon "Feed them starved savage children's wont you please" Just Send $$$ as Much as can afford to Franklin Grahm and Co. and he will take Ham Sandwich's and bottle of free clean water aboard his Brand new $55-Million Lear Jet to get those ham sandwiches to starved folk PDQ-Fast!


    Then when they end up with so many such do gooder groups doing exact same program of mass feedings, that they now have to write down actual numbers of New "Converts" (with now full tummys!)…..To Brag about on daily TV sermon/Cash Donation shows of how Last weekend we got 1,293 African jungle bunnies converted to be true believers Hallaluyah Folks now send Cash asap fast so we can go Back again and again.


    So now with so many competing against each "religious Sect of do gooders" each with their very Own self apointed Pope/bible interpreter expert pastor, bar none.


    They move to the Next level, which also can contain huge per refugee status immigrant they can infiltrate into a White and into an Only White Nation, amounts of extra $$$ Cash grants Via Fed Govnt's! Make it a Double Halaluayah Folks and be sure to Send more $$$ direct to Passda Loot your preacherman host on todays tv show.


    All they then need is Sanctuary Citys and church buildings to temp-house said new believer savages.


    Which both neocon jew run politions as well as dem lib jew run pols are eager to approve of and make good use of Talmudic style spin/scam/swindle-circular speak new laws or policies to accomodate said savage travelers into Only White Nations....


    But if these so called "christians" (apostates and duped fools mainly) would take whats written IN context, and stop mixing various found half-verses from a dozen separate biblical locations into an brand New interpretation to accomodate and approve of such agendas or policies.


    Then they would have never kept returning for 50+ years to finally get a few hungry "converts" and saved tons of cash that could get spent in better ways yet....Like maybe help folks within Own Nation or cities eh?


    When one considers all these long ongoing agendas and programs, along with a totally duped mindset based upon seeing the word of, "Jew" every place where the actual orig word of "israel or hebrew" was written, so to use that false interpretation to litterrally abjectly worship jewry and israel state. One can see that while yes international jewry and especially zionists are behind every such major problem we today face, and which Will fuly Destroy Whites unless halted and quickly so.


    But that these duped apostates play a hge role in it all. So huge of a role that if only such apostate dupes would finally get Red Pilled awakened, every such wrong bad agenda that are against white folks woud get stopped fast and the true real culprits would be done in for certain.


    The true culprits woud face a choice of exit usa and other first world whitey nations fast as a bolt of lightning, or get litterally hunted down and delt with even faster yet. And also be forced to Pack in their luggage bags those filthy sell out neocons and dem lib Pols, and those darkies they infiltrated into our nations.......And if instead things worked out that it was african savages accepting an cash offer to take a One Way boat back to africa first, before any other culprits got delt with?..No problem, and perhaps someone or the fed govnt can offer additional cash bribes for exiting african savages to stuff a few jews and crooked pols into their suit cases and travel bags eh.


    A double whammy solution to rid whiteys of a double whammy Curse imposed upon them with zero say or votes for such on their part usually.


    I just wonder why we see so many now that are awake and know the deal, yet when they make a list of major culprits, most fail to include or even consider the vast huge numbers of 60+ Million usa apostate jew/israel firsters that typically also are the same pro african refugee group of persons.


    The other Major biblical verses they also refuse to aknowlege or read, let alone obey, is where it speaks of Two distinct groups of peoples...One being children of Light aka Gods kids, and the other group as children of Darkness aka Satan the Devils children. It contains a long list of whom belongs to which group, and ends with the words of "From such children of Darkness...TURN AWAY FROM THEM!"......Now with so many other verses describing jews as the Main children of Devil Satan, one would think even the most ignorant of those duped 60+ million foolish ones, would comprehend that when it says From such Turn away from them as in have zero, nothing at all to do with that groups members, and obey it fully eh.....If done so, most of todays jew caused troubles and woes would have never gained traction in the first place.


    So yes, I for one lay much blame for these problems at the feet of those I call the duped apostates and israel/jew-firster bunch. Anybody who doubts the truth in this, simply attend a local "Tea-Party" Org. Event, take a few printed pages of actual vetted, verrified, factual, Truths regards jewish treachery against every white, every first world whitey nation, especially the USA nation, and try to hand out said printed pages of facts to tea party neocon repub members there....See what happens Next!...ps make sure your life insurance policy is paid up in full before attempting such methods to awaken those apostate dupes eh.
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  17. “The Jew First” (Romans 1:16) ‘tards in England who give their loyalty to a foreign King of Israel (John 1:16) and consider the Jewish capital city to be “holy” (Revelation 21:2) have been singing hymns aligned with Jewish interests for a long time.

    ♪ I will not cease from Mental Fight,
    Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
    Till we have built Jerusalem,
    In Englands green & pleasant Land. ♫

    And did those feet in ancient time
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MwCUNgVdjE

    Now the Jew worshiping cultists have finally achieved their glorious goal.

    Pleasant it is no anymore.

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    Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jewish interests. Ironically Revelations, which is of course where the imagery for the poem comes from, is very anti-Jewish. The King of Israel is God because Israel means the Church.
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  18. I dislike Tommy’s selling out, but as a matter of principle, he was arrested when covering child grooming gangs. The cause was just. Furthermore, even if he was there in breach of protocol, then the protocol is retarded.

    I would defend even a communist’s freedom of speech. Just because your ideological enemies (or in this case, someone who is not a genuine nationalist) goes to jail, doesn’t mean we should celebrate it. It creates a further precedent to target a broader swathe of people down the line.

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    Freedoms can only work within a society of people with the same inclination.

    Take democracy. When it was created, those within that democracy had no wishes to undermine their traditions and cultures. The people within Greece were Greeks and promoted Greek culture. Democracy allowed people with differing opinions to run for political positions, but those people always had the people's and nation's best interests at heart.
    When we allow democracy within a society of people who do not have the people's best interests at heart, we have the hell that is the west today.

    Take Islam as an example. It is predicted that by 2070 there will be more Muslims in the UK than indigenous. Maybe so, maybe not, as this is completely irrelevant to democratic values. Here in the UK, the last election had something like 70% of the UK population voting. It meant that the indigenous voted for either left, right or centre and other independents. By 2040, the Muslim population will be enough to put forward an Islamic Sharia party and compete against the divided votes of the indigenous. If they win we'll see the merger of the Mosque and the state, the end of elections and goodbye common law. We will also see the floodgates open as the Islamic government pulls in more and more Muslims to enforce its Islamic way of life on the indigenous.

    "I would defend even a communist’s freedom of speech."
     
    And in doing so you set the seeds to your nation's destruction. Internationalism is the nemesis of nationalism. It is the creation of the Jew, who seeks to destroy all world peoples and their nations.
    By giving democratic values and freedom of speech to those who would do your nation harm, you are effectively handing the gun to your assassin and kneeling down in front of him. Look at the chaos that we have in the US and Canada with transgenders and other SJW's who are actively using the first amendment to DESTROY the first amendment?

    Jews, for example throughout the history of the UK, were not allowed positions of authority or influence. No testimonies, from Jews, were allowed in a court of law seeing as lying to the goyim was perfectly acceptable in their talmudic teachings. They could not be trusted.
    Now that's changed, dramatically. The judiciary is completely controlled by Jews, hence the mess we have today.

    "I dislike Tommy’s selling out, but as a matter of principle, he was arrested when covering child grooming gangs."
     
    Of course he has and with that comes his support of immigration into the UK, promotion of multiracial societies and multiculturalism and of course, rallying support for Israel. Can you not see that Tommy Robinson EPITOMIZES the disinformation agent? They'll give you 90% truth, but it's the 10% deceit that they're trying to force onto the public to accept, so if Tommy's telling the truth of 90% then the other 10% must also be the truth, in the eyes of the public who support him. Tommy's job is simple - to unite as much support for Israel as he can and bring hatred towards Islam in order that more dumb cattle go off to fight, murder and die for Israel.

    What people are failing to see is that with every hero Zion puts up for the Europeans, they take away another of our traditional and family values. They'll pile on the support from minority groups. Soon we'll see Sikhs and Hindus rallying for Tommy along with the Blacks and Orientals, followed by the LGBTQ in their degenerate parades. And what will this do? It will make the average man think "Ah look, homosexuals and immigrants aren't really all that bad, they're rallying for Tommy"

    And that is how you completely control the public, guiding them through the maze Zion created, to utterly demolish everything about them and their culture.

    For your information, the "Heretical Two", Simon Shepherd and Stephen Whittle (aka Luke O'Farrell) but predominantly Whittle, was writing about the decay of the UK and specifically about Muslim grooming gangs. They published a comic called 'Tales from the Holohoax' and were eventually arrested under hate speech laws and imprisoned in due course. The msm turned them into demons and no one supported their cause for free speech. Shami Chakrabati's Liberty, completely ignored them, preferring to save Nigerian born drug dealer, Samantha Orobator from the death sentence in Laos, for her attempt in smuggling drugs out of Laos.
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  19. Harbinger says:
    @redmudhooch
    Sounds like America, none of the pols represent the majority of people, you have the "right", that supports war and Israel, and the "left" that floods the country with immigrants but pretends to be anti-war.
    In reality both are the same, its all just lies till they get elected, then they stab you in the back for the money. They're less than prostitutes.
    This is why most people don't bother voting. Its all same in the end. Sad!
    Where are the people protesting the granny being locked up for questioning the holohoax?

    “Where are the people protesting the granny being locked up for questioning the holohoax?”

    Think about this for a minute?
    If it was found out that the holocaust was a lie and the figures greatly exaggerated what do you think the impact would be on Jewry. They would not only be called out and eventually seen as the compulsive liars that they are, but their financial empire would instantly collapse. All of the shrines built (holocaust museums), throughout the west would be demolished. All funding for Israel would stop. All funds from Germany would have to be paid back. Investigations would start all over as Jews were kicked out of positions of power, such as into the USS Liberty, 9/11, 7/7 etc. Israel would become a rogue state, most certainly with the west uniting to remove it permanently, dissolving the Balfour Declaration. Jews would not be safe in any western city, especially with no longer having control of the msm and academia, the truth will be told of the past. Plans for white genocide, behind the mass immigration of Muslims and Africans to destroy the indigenous…..

    The bottom line is a simple one, if people started to protest Ursula Haverbeck being incarcerated and the truth started to out, it would bring about a REAL holocaust of Jews, not the phony 6million, but instead the 15 million worldwide, where it would literally be open hunting season on them, 24/7.
    Jews are absolutely terrified that the truth will come out about their deceit throughout history. It is why they have total control of academia, the church and the msm (among many other institutions) because these two are the most important for the indoctrination and brainwashing of the public. This is why they are rapidly seeking control of the internet and pushing through as much anti freedom legislation in the form of anti terrorism legislation in order to completely control the narrative and destroy any chance of people finding out the truth. They know that if there is one slip up, their game is over for good.

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    There are quite a few of such things:
    - FDR as war monger
    - Wilson, the same
    - Wilson's Eighteen Points, to dismember the Habsburg empire
    - Churchill, war criminal and war monger
    - the Liberty
    - Sept 11
    - the Kennedy murder
    - the Kelly 'suicide'
    - the Turing 'suicide'
    - the Sikorski 'accident'
    - the Dieppe raid
    - the Ton Kin Gulf 'incident'
    - the Hess suicide
    - the Diana 'accident'
    - the Palme murder
    - the Barschel 'suicide'
    - the 'accidental' Anna Lyndh murder
    - the Hammarskjöld 'accident'
    - Oradour sur Glane massacre
    There is more, but I think this is enough.
    , @jilles dykstra
    It is difficult to know what someone thinks, though in this world there are a lot of mind readers.
    I'm not one of them.
    So, for example, Trump still puzzles me.

    Even FDR puzzles me.
    Though I'm convinced he was brought into politics to wage war I do not know if this was just what he had agreed to do or that he himself wanted it.
    In his last speech to congress he did not completely follow the text that was prepared for him, the text, I suppose, as was customary, he had agreed to.
    Sherwood, one of the speech writers, describes the procedure.
    What was not in the prepared text is that he said, according to Sherwood, 'that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters from rabbi's'.
    FDR was therefore not, in my opinion, a puppet.

    Why jews behave as they do, that is to say a few thousand, my guess, leading jews, I do not know.
    Is it fear 'unless we control the world w're finished', or is it 'we got away with much, let us try this'.
    Or 'christians treated us badly for 2000 years, therefore we are right in trying to destroy christianity' ?
    , @Lucy
    A great comment, Harbinger. Alas, most people are so inoctrinated with the (((tribal))) version of truth that they do not ponder over who has orchestrated the mass immigration of racial aliens into the White nations.
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  20. So basically Robinson is just another Pam Geller.

    Jews like to get their fingers in anything first to make sure that they can control the direction it goes in. We see this with both Rebel Media and Breitbart. Make an “alt right” forum for the goyim to vent about Moslems on while ensuring that the blame doesn’t go too far in connecting the dots of who really supports mass immigration and diversity in the west and even worse, why.

    And let’s be honest, if it weren’t for Moslem support of the Palestinians, Jews would be just fine with the rape gangs, intrusive body pat downs at the airport, bombings and all the other blessings Islamic immigration has brought to the west.

    Like Stefan Molyneux, Tommy Robinson is useful for red pilling normies but that’s about it.

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    And let’s be honest, if it weren’t for Moslem support of the Palestinians, Jews would be just fine with the rape gangs, intrusive body pat downs at the airport, bombings and all the other blessings Islamic immigration has brought to the west
     
    Exactly. Robinson is just another Pam Geller with the Muslims are Coming! .

    The sexual perversions within Jewish groups are rampant ---but we don't see reporters becoming activist over it and ranting about Jew rapist and pedophiles. There's a woman in Israel right now who fled there to escape US court for child molestation.
    Their sex crimes are probably 10xs more than what we hear about because the Rabbis wont let them be reported to the outsider police.....and unfortunately most of them involve sexual abuse of children.


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  21. @vinteuil
    (1) Can anyone explain to me just exactly how what TR was doing here could possibly "prejudice the jury" in this case? I mean, really explain it, without resort to legalese?

    (2) What material difference does it make what TR thinks or says about Israel & the jews? Does he have any influence over public policy, here?

    There was no jury.

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    So the restraining orders are about not influencing potential jurors by covering the preliminary hearings of immigrant Muslim gang rapists/ sex slavers of underage girls.

    I’m surprised the misogynist 90 year old male virgins on this site aren’t jumping in to defend the Muslim paki rapists as they defend Weinstein and the rest.
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  22. Harbinger says:
    @Thulean Friend
    I dislike Tommy's selling out, but as a matter of principle, he was arrested when covering child grooming gangs. The cause was just. Furthermore, even if he was there in breach of protocol, then the protocol is retarded.

    I would defend even a communist's freedom of speech. Just because your ideological enemies (or in this case, someone who is not a genuine nationalist) goes to jail, doesn't mean we should celebrate it. It creates a further precedent to target a broader swathe of people down the line.

    Freedoms can only work within a society of people with the same inclination.

    Take democracy. When it was created, those within that democracy had no wishes to undermine their traditions and cultures. The people within Greece were Greeks and promoted Greek culture. Democracy allowed people with differing opinions to run for political positions, but those people always had the people’s and nation’s best interests at heart.
    When we allow democracy within a society of people who do not have the people’s best interests at heart, we have the hell that is the west today.

    Take Islam as an example. It is predicted that by 2070 there will be more Muslims in the UK than indigenous. Maybe so, maybe not, as this is completely irrelevant to democratic values. Here in the UK, the last election had something like 70% of the UK population voting. It meant that the indigenous voted for either left, right or centre and other independents. By 2040, the Muslim population will be enough to put forward an Islamic Sharia party and compete against the divided votes of the indigenous. If they win we’ll see the merger of the Mosque and the state, the end of elections and goodbye common law. We will also see the floodgates open as the Islamic government pulls in more and more Muslims to enforce its Islamic way of life on the indigenous.

    “I would defend even a communist’s freedom of speech.”

    And in doing so you set the seeds to your nation’s destruction. Internationalism is the nemesis of nationalism. It is the creation of the Jew, who seeks to destroy all world peoples and their nations.
    By giving democratic values and freedom of speech to those who would do your nation harm, you are effectively handing the gun to your assassin and kneeling down in front of him. Look at the chaos that we have in the US and Canada with transgenders and other SJW’s who are actively using the first amendment to DESTROY the first amendment?

    Jews, for example throughout the history of the UK, were not allowed positions of authority or influence. No testimonies, from Jews, were allowed in a court of law seeing as lying to the goyim was perfectly acceptable in their talmudic teachings. They could not be trusted.
    Now that’s changed, dramatically. The judiciary is completely controlled by Jews, hence the mess we have today.

    “I dislike Tommy’s selling out, but as a matter of principle, he was arrested when covering child grooming gangs.”

    Of course he has and with that comes his support of immigration into the UK, promotion of multiracial societies and multiculturalism and of course, rallying support for Israel. Can you not see that Tommy Robinson EPITOMIZES the disinformation agent? They’ll give you 90% truth, but it’s the 10% deceit that they’re trying to force onto the public to accept, so if Tommy’s telling the truth of 90% then the other 10% must also be the truth, in the eyes of the public who support him. Tommy’s job is simple – to unite as much support for Israel as he can and bring hatred towards Islam in order that more dumb cattle go off to fight, murder and die for Israel.

    What people are failing to see is that with every hero Zion puts up for the Europeans, they take away another of our traditional and family values. They’ll pile on the support from minority groups. Soon we’ll see Sikhs and Hindus rallying for Tommy along with the Blacks and Orientals, followed by the LGBTQ in their degenerate parades. And what will this do? It will make the average man think “Ah look, homosexuals and immigrants aren’t really all that bad, they’re rallying for Tommy”

    And that is how you completely control the public, guiding them through the maze Zion created, to utterly demolish everything about them and their culture.

    For your information, the “Heretical Two”, Simon Shepherd and Stephen Whittle (aka Luke O’Farrell) but predominantly Whittle, was writing about the decay of the UK and specifically about Muslim grooming gangs. They published a comic called ‘Tales from the Holohoax’ and were eventually arrested under hate speech laws and imprisoned in due course. The msm turned them into demons and no one supported their cause for free speech. Shami Chakrabati’s Liberty, completely ignored them, preferring to save Nigerian born drug dealer, Samantha Orobator from the death sentence in Laos, for her attempt in smuggling drugs out of Laos.

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    That internationalism is the creation of the Jew is true, including the Globalist Commission.

    “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations." -a Jewish Rabbi named Jesus
     
    Why do gullible Goy allow this Jewish Internationalist propaganda into their houses, and read it solemnly to their children?
    , @DFH
    I will never understand why he decided to give a copy of his article about Breivik to a librarian
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  23. @Harbinger

    "Where are the people protesting the granny being locked up for questioning the holohoax?"
     
    Think about this for a minute?
    If it was found out that the holocaust was a lie and the figures greatly exaggerated what do you think the impact would be on Jewry. They would not only be called out and eventually seen as the compulsive liars that they are, but their financial empire would instantly collapse. All of the shrines built (holocaust museums), throughout the west would be demolished. All funding for Israel would stop. All funds from Germany would have to be paid back. Investigations would start all over as Jews were kicked out of positions of power, such as into the USS Liberty, 9/11, 7/7 etc. Israel would become a rogue state, most certainly with the west uniting to remove it permanently, dissolving the Balfour Declaration. Jews would not be safe in any western city, especially with no longer having control of the msm and academia, the truth will be told of the past. Plans for white genocide, behind the mass immigration of Muslims and Africans to destroy the indigenous.....

    The bottom line is a simple one, if people started to protest Ursula Haverbeck being incarcerated and the truth started to out, it would bring about a REAL holocaust of Jews, not the phony 6million, but instead the 15 million worldwide, where it would literally be open hunting season on them, 24/7.
    Jews are absolutely terrified that the truth will come out about their deceit throughout history. It is why they have total control of academia, the church and the msm (among many other institutions) because these two are the most important for the indoctrination and brainwashing of the public. This is why they are rapidly seeking control of the internet and pushing through as much anti freedom legislation in the form of anti terrorism legislation in order to completely control the narrative and destroy any chance of people finding out the truth. They know that if there is one slip up, their game is over for good.

    There are quite a few of such things:
    - FDR as war monger
    - Wilson, the same
    - Wilson’s Eighteen Points, to dismember the Habsburg empire
    - Churchill, war criminal and war monger
    - the Liberty
    - Sept 11
    - the Kennedy murder
    - the Kelly ‘suicide’
    - the Turing ‘suicide’
    - the Sikorski ‘accident’
    - the Dieppe raid
    - the Ton Kin Gulf ‘incident’
    - the Hess suicide
    - the Diana ‘accident’
    - the Palme murder
    - the Barschel ‘suicide’
    - the ‘accidental’ Anna Lyndh murder
    - the Hammarskjöld ‘accident’
    - Oradour sur Glane massacre
    There is more, but I think this is enough.

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    Please elaborate, regarding

    - the Dieppe raid

    as being one of those "such things"

    Thanks in advance
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  24. DFH says:
    @Echoes of History
    "The Jew First" (Romans 1:16) 'tards in England who give their loyalty to a foreign King of Israel (John 1:16) and consider the Jewish capital city to be "holy" (Revelation 21:2) have been singing hymns aligned with Jewish interests for a long time.

    ♪ I will not cease from Mental Fight,
    Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand:
    Till we have built Jerusalem,
    In Englands green & pleasant Land. ♫

    And did those feet in ancient time
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MwCUNgVdjE
     

    Now the Jew worshiping cultists have finally achieved their glorious goal.

    Pleasant it is no anymore.

    Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jewish interests. Ironically Revelations, which is of course where the imagery for the poem comes from, is very anti-Jewish. The King of Israel is God because Israel means the Church.

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    Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jewish interests? Is that just like Moscow has nothing to do with Russian interests, or Bejing has nothing to do with Chinese interests?

    The Jewish author of Revelation is not anti-Jewish; being the right-believing kind of Jew to him is extremely important. He merely attempts the twisted logic of saying any Jew who disagrees with his Jewish cult is not a Jew.

    Which is as silly as a Mongolian saying any Mongolians who disagree with his Mongolian cult aren't genetically Mongolian, and belong to the Mongolian Grill of Satankhan.

    So why are you taking one Jew's side in a Jewish spat using Jewish insults against other Jews? Do you always stick your nose in other race's disputes? Hey, maybe you're a bit Jewish yourself! :)

    The proper role of a European who observes a Jewish imbroglio is to be as wise as the European fellow Pilate.

    "Must I add that, in the whole New Testament, there appears but a solitary figure worthy of honour? Pilate, the Roman viceroy. To regard a Jewish imbroglio seriously - that was quite beyond him. One Jew more or less - what did it matter?" (Friedrich Nietzsche)
    , @Anon
    Building Jerusalem in England seems pretty clear to me. But then I’m no bible scholar who can find 15 different interpretations of every word.
    , @Them Guys
    Echoes of history: You are very mixed up on Jesus and Christianity issue it seems. He was Not a "Jewish Rabbi"....He was a Nazarene born of true Hebrew Israelite stock on his mothers side as well as a true God in flesh man due to His Fathers side.


    By time of his birth the word of jew had gone thru aprox 3 or more different meanings. And the final meaning for word of jew was akin to todays word of nigger. Due to Israelites had by then mixed with just about every possible combo of Non Israelites tribes and races. And their very own jewish almanacs state that Not only should modern jews be Not compared to ancient biblical Israelites but also that old testament ancient Israelites should Not be aquainted nor compared with to modern day jews. Same almanacs also say there is Zero Blood nor same Mother Ties within modern day jews. So basically 99+% of all we/you was told to believe about jews and jewish issues is pure fake Bunkola.


    Also of Note: Fact that a time of Jesus Birth and during His lifetime, The jewish King of jewry then was Herrod Jr. and his daddy herod was also their king prior to Jr's reign....That's important due to Both Herod sr and Herod Jr were Edomites!....Now why on earth would strictly obedient Talmudic jews have or allow for an EDOMITE king of Jews to reign as king over jerusalems jewry eh?


    Those same, many eras of jewish almanacs dating back at least to early 1800's era, and newer modern era versions almanacs also state that, Before Christs birth, Judah tribe had captured and forced ALL of Edom aka edomites which were Esaus decendants and the worst mortal enemys of Jacobs 12 tribes Israelites...Into Judah and forced edoms conversions into Talmudic jewry.


    Christ was NEVER a Talmudic rabbi, and He Railed vociferously Against the Talmudic sect rabbis and ALL Talmudic jewish Folowers of said Talmudic rabbis...


    Furthemore, once a person becomes a true Christian, like John the Apostle and writer of book of Revelation, as well as several other gospel books of John (see John 8:44 for christs words to jews!! then see Rev 2:9 & 3:9 for additional proof Christ was Not a jew per se' as many wrongly interpret word of jew)….But once a person bcomes a Christian as stated biblically, he or she becomes a "New Creature or Creation In Christ" as if became reborn a new individual opposite from former unbeliever child of darkness by default.


    It appears you suffer the very same problem that so many atheists and various types of unbelievers or anti-Christians do.....You assume from what you heard or maybe read in a bible and based on own interpretation with a pre biased notion to prove Christians or the bible false is in fact true.


    Which each time another person states such false facts just proves the bible correct where it says that only true believers will understand it and to all unbelievers it will be simple folly.


    That's due to it states that one must be filled with the Holy Spirit before one can fully and Properly understand much of the written words of God.


    Well so far each time another one attempts to discredit Christ or Christianity, and makes idiotic wrong statements in attempting to enlighten real believers about who or whats a jew etc....They again prove such prior mentioned verses as correct and true.


    I rekon its akin to asking a car mechanic about brain surgery,and accepting his advice as factual eh.


    It also appears that most of the most adamant atheistic type people have created one of the biggest and loudest Religions yet....Their is the religion of Anti-Religion, which has by them been turned into a religion all its own...Its okay by me as I either ignore it or try to awaken them somewhat if possible...if not?..Thats okay to. But for many such folks it sure seems they get worse angry at Christianity and its believers than Fags or Feminist commie Dykes get no?


    I never yet could understand why so many unbelievers and atheists get so damn foam at mouth angry mad at believers...Its just not normal I think eh. If not aware of what I mean simply keep reading these forums for soon examples of out of control angry atheists types when again the forum lights up with their typical foaming replies.


    And if you really desire a knowledge based on facts etc about Christ and jewry etc, just check out a few good websites that far better explain what I tried to explain in this reply...Search "Christ was NOT a jew" for starters. That should bring up a few info sites.
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  25. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2

    In a minute Tyrion2 will be here to insist that there’s nothing to see here, and people being locked up for saying things jews don’t like being said is no reason to suppose jews have undue influence.
     
    Your definition of 'undue influence' seems to be having the same 'protection' under the law as others.

    That 'protection' may be illiberal but practically every institution in UK society supports it and every interest organisation tries to take credit.

    I know your response will be that "muh Chabloz made a satirical song and that's a first" but focussing on it being a song is proof of your disingenuousness. Regardless, she'll receive a small fine for her nonsense. A shame but hardly out of whack with what I or anyone would receive for a similar song that crossed PC taboos were it suffiiciently promoted.

    Obviously her repeated performance at the London Forum (an organisation that's main effect is to boost the self-esteem of its deluded participants by exaggerating the scale and nefariousness of those whom they imagine are their enemies) put Chabloz's head above the parapet.

    This is unfortunate for her but presenting yourselves as autistic Nazis whom everyone thinks are pathetic losers while screeching of your own importance will attracts some bullies. That's how bullies work.

    You may not like the above paragraph but is it wrong?

    I listened to Tommy Robinson's podcast with James Delingpole. He is obviously a bright, passionate and committed individual. Unfortunately it was also clear that he is a very vain man. And it seems that said vanity undid him in this latest malarkey. That said, the writer of this piece is an order of magnitude vainer and with a fraction of the justification.

    A little realism about yourselves and your ideology's standing would go a long way. But then, that would be a paradox. The entire point of your political preening is to psychologically 'benefit' by feeling good through Walter Mitty type fantasizing.

    Your definition of ‘undue influence’ seems to be having the same ‘protection’ under the law as others.

    You really are deeply in denial aren’t you? As a matter of interest, when was the last time you think someone was locked up for saying nasty things about Christianity or about white people? Come to that, when was the last time anyone was searched out by a black or muslim group for posting an obscure satirical song about them to the internet, and they had the clout to initiate a private prosecution and bully the police and cps to actually push it all the way to trial and get a conviction and a likely jail sentence?

    Oh wait, that’s right – the answer is that it has never been done before. Though now that the deep pockets and establishment influence of the jewish lobby have created a precedent we will probably soon see such prosecutions being pursued by other groups such as muslim and black identity lobbies. I’m sure you’ll be pleased to see that (while inevitably insisting it’s not the fault of the jewish identity groups that broke the ground for them).

    You could just have agreed with the self-evident truth that we have a huge problem with suppression of political opinion, and that jewish groups are at the forefront of enabling and promoting the problem, instead of stepping up to bat for your identity group. You could have chosen to side with the victims against the perpetrators. But somehow you chose the other option. Of course, it would be anti-Semitic to suggest that your identity loyalty played any part in your convenient revision in this case of your past claimed adherence to freedom of speech.

    screeching of your own importance

    This and most of the rest of your post would appear to be mere desperate abuse on your part, and clearly false. Why do you feel the need to resort to it?

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    I didn't argue against free speech. Not even a little bit. I just pointed out that speaking like paranoiac lunatics doesn't get you a whole lot of public sympathy.

    That you can't understand why I write this only further justifies my previous comment.

    The so-called *woke* British Nationalist scene that half of these comments claim as the true nationalist lot is the hated fringe of a fringe of a fringe. Perhaps that is because of brainwash magical style Jewish scheming...or perhaps you guys are just really unlikeable...

    Have you considered the latter?

    As for Chabloz's eventual small fine being out of place in the British legal system. It isn't. Hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily. Most have no mention of Jews. Your special pleading doesn't cut it.

    Oh, but they had to fund it themselves through a private prosecution...

    Oh, but they got half an hour of desk time with a upper-middle ranking police bureaucrat...

    Oh, but it was a song and songs are different...

    Lol. Who are you kidding?

    And again, I'm all for Chabloz's right to sing songs cackling about the slaughter of millions of innocents. Even to a group of self-styled men of action who wish to repeat that same crime. Whatever floats her wretched boat. It doesn't mean that I need to like or respect her.


    This and most of the rest of your post would appear to be mere desperate abuse on your part, and clearly false.
     
    Can you really say, hand on heart, that most of the London Forum lot aren't Walter Mitty style fantasists? Jeremy Turner is a classic example of one. He likes to give off the aura of being an informer because in reality he was just a failed Signals - as in setting up HQ tents - Officer for a few years. I once met a former colleaugue of his who trained with him. Zero operational experience. Bottom third at Sandhurst.* Not even fun on a night out. At least Hitler was a bona fide war hero.

    *Nothing wrong with that if at least he'd been a bit of fun. Alas...

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  26. jim jones says:

    Ex British police officer, reaction to Tommy Robinson:

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  27. Such brave people here who, like myself, go tippy-tappy on keyboards under pseudonyms on websites and criticize people who actually put themselves in actual physical danger. Two days after Memorial Day, too, not bad.

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    "Such brave people here who, like myself, go tippy-tappy on keyboards under pseudonyms on websites and criticize people who actually put themselves in actual physical danger. Two days after Memorial Day, too, not bad."
     
    I use a pseudonym because my name is a contract sealer for legal imprisonment for exercising freedom of speech. Why do you think so many people are being arrested for posting on social media under their own name - Facebook, Twitter etc?

    And Memorial Day
    Hmm....
    Ten years back, here in the UK, I was attacked walking home. I defended myself and in due course was arrested by the police, for causing a Breach of the Peace. The attacker paid his £150 fine and I spent a night in the cell. I refused to pay and went through the court malarkey, with doctored police CCTV evidence, but was eventually acquitted due to a witness not recognizing me, the police had called as theirs.
    And yet, members of the armed forces, KNOWINGLY, invade foreign lands, murder the indigenous, who are labeled as terrorists, destroy their civilization, bring about a refugee crisis whom many are piling into Europe causing chaos and yet, they come home, parade through the streets and are hailed as heroes, when they are nothing more than assassins of the Rothschild banking cabal, granted legal permission to go abroad and murder in the name of democracy?

    Is it me or is there something odd about a society that imprisons people for defending themselves against attack in their own lands, but celebrates armed forces personnel when they go abroad and murder people who pose them and their country no threat at all?

    Culloden in 1745 was the last battle fought on UK soil. Every other battle after that, the indigenous, now under the control of the English king become invaders of foreign lands and not defenders of their own. The English have been the same pretty much since William the Conqueror and the Battle of Hastings. The Americans' last war on home soil was probably the wars with the Apaches, not long after the civil war.

    All wars of the twentieth century including those of today are wars for the establishment of Greater Israel. I'm not going to celebrate the actions and subsequent deaths of armed forces personnel who not only did wrong in fighting in these wars but have brought about the utter destruction of the west, ironically the very reason they went into these wars to stop from ever happening.

    "How dare you say that about brave men who gave their lives....blah....blah.....blah....."
    Erm no.
    If the Nuremberg trials can falsely demonize work camp personnel and drill into the public the "we were only doing our jobs" statement doesn't absolve you of criminality, then we must do the same with armed forces personnel who willingly followed orders, yet never bothered to check to see if what they were doing was wrong and they were in fact the terrorists bringing more harm to their nations than they realized. And worse, all of these men, in fighting for Zion have actually, unknowingly committed treason against their people and nation.
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  28. Randal says:
    @vinteuil
    (1) Can anyone explain to me just exactly how what TR was doing here could possibly "prejudice the jury" in this case? I mean, really explain it, without resort to legalese?

    (2) What material difference does it make what TR thinks or says about Israel & the jews? Does he have any influence over public policy, here?

    (1) Can anyone explain to me just exactly how what TR was doing here could possibly “prejudice the jury” in this case? I mean, really explain it, without resort to legalese?

    The whole idea of “influencing the jury” by general news and publicity is a questionable one, but it is one that is generally accepted by British courts. There’s certainly a legitimate argument for trying to change that, perhaps even protesting it, but it’s not why Robinson got into trouble – he got into trouble for breaching a court order involving a suspended sentence, in circumstances in which he must have known it would happen and presumably intended for it to happen in order to generate publicity.

    Contrast that with the genuine victims Jeremy Turner and Alison Chabloz, who are in prison or facing prison merely for expressing opinions.

    (2) What material difference does it make what TR thinks or says about Israel & the jews? Does he have any influence over public policy, here?

    The problem isn’t really what he says about Israel or jews in itself (though imo it is inherently questionable to worry about muslim influence whilst approving of the jewish influence that promotes speech censorship, interferes in our politics and encourages our interventionist policies for the benefit of Israel), so much as his practice (and the practice of movements like the EDL and similar pro-Israel supposedly “nationalist” groups) of using establishment attack terms against conservatives/nationalists who do not go along with his subservience to pc dictates, on homo-ism and race dogma as well as on Israel and the jewish issue.

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  29. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    Your definition of ‘undue influence’ seems to be having the same ‘protection’ under the law as others.
     
    You really are deeply in denial aren't you? As a matter of interest, when was the last time you think someone was locked up for saying nasty things about Christianity or about white people? Come to that, when was the last time anyone was searched out by a black or muslim group for posting an obscure satirical song about them to the internet, and they had the clout to initiate a private prosecution and bully the police and cps to actually push it all the way to trial and get a conviction and a likely jail sentence?

    Oh wait, that's right - the answer is that it has never been done before. Though now that the deep pockets and establishment influence of the jewish lobby have created a precedent we will probably soon see such prosecutions being pursued by other groups such as muslim and black identity lobbies. I'm sure you'll be pleased to see that (while inevitably insisting it's not the fault of the jewish identity groups that broke the ground for them).

    You could just have agreed with the self-evident truth that we have a huge problem with suppression of political opinion, and that jewish groups are at the forefront of enabling and promoting the problem, instead of stepping up to bat for your identity group. You could have chosen to side with the victims against the perpetrators. But somehow you chose the other option. Of course, it would be anti-Semitic to suggest that your identity loyalty played any part in your convenient revision in this case of your past claimed adherence to freedom of speech.


    screeching of your own importance
     
    This and most of the rest of your post would appear to be mere desperate abuse on your part, and clearly false. Why do you feel the need to resort to it?

    I didn’t argue against free speech. Not even a little bit. I just pointed out that speaking like paranoiac lunatics doesn’t get you a whole lot of public sympathy.

    That you can’t understand why I write this only further justifies my previous comment.

    The so-called *woke* British Nationalist scene that half of these comments claim as the true nationalist lot is the hated fringe of a fringe of a fringe. Perhaps that is because of brainwash magical style Jewish scheming…or perhaps you guys are just really unlikeable…

    Have you considered the latter?

    As for Chabloz’s eventual small fine being out of place in the British legal system. It isn’t. Hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily. Most have no mention of Jews. Your special pleading doesn’t cut it.

    Oh, but they had to fund it themselves through a private prosecution…

    Oh, but they got half an hour of desk time with a upper-middle ranking police bureaucrat…

    Oh, but it was a song and songs are different…

    Lol. Who are you kidding?

    And again, I’m all for Chabloz’s right to sing songs cackling about the slaughter of millions of innocents. Even to a group of self-styled men of action who wish to repeat that same crime. Whatever floats her wretched boat. It doesn’t mean that I need to like or respect her.

    This and most of the rest of your post would appear to be mere desperate abuse on your part, and clearly false.

    Can you really say, hand on heart, that most of the London Forum lot aren’t Walter Mitty style fantasists? Jeremy Turner is a classic example of one. He likes to give off the aura of being an informer because in reality he was just a failed Signals – as in setting up HQ tents – Officer for a few years. I once met a former colleaugue of his who trained with him. Zero operational experience. Bottom third at Sandhurst.* Not even fun on a night out. At least Hitler was a bona fide war hero.

    *Nothing wrong with that if at least he’d been a bit of fun. Alas…

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    I didn’t argue against free speech. Not even a little bit. I just pointed out that speaking like paranoiac lunatics doesn’t get you a whole lot of public sympathy.
     
    Of course I didn't say you "argued against free speech", I pointed out that you chose to attack the victims instead of focussing on the perpetrators and the wrongness of what they are doing (as you have chosen to do here again).


    The so-called *woke* British Nationalist scene that half of these comments claim as the true nationalist lot is the hated fringe of a fringe of a fringe. Perhaps that is because of brainwash magical style Jewish scheming…or perhaps you guys are just really unlikeable…
     
    Again, you resort to desperate and pointless abuse. Why do you feel the need to do so? It's not as though I've argued the contrary myself - in fact I've repeatedly pointed out here the fact that "racists" and "antisemites" are a marginalised and excluded minority in US sphere societies, and that is a large contributory aspect to our problems.

    Though clearly there are wealthy and powerful people who think these people are sufficiently important to go to considerable effort to prevent them from speaking freely.

    As for Chabloz’s eventual small fine being out of place in the British legal system. It isn’t. Hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily. Most have no mention of Jews. Your special pleading doesn’t cut it.
     
    First, you have no basis for claiming Chabloz will eventually get a "small fine", since she has not been sentenced yet and has been specifically warned of the possibility of a prison sentence (as Turner has already received). And it's hardly as though being prosecuted, tried, and convicted of a supposed criminal offence for merely expressing an opinion is "ok" as long as no prison time is involved. More hypocrisy on your part here, clearly.

    Second, your assertion that "hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily" as a supposed justification for the charging of Chabloz is absurd. As I previously challenged you, do feel free to point out any cases you know of where people were convicted for saying offensive, hateful things about Christianity or about white people, since your claim is that these are just "protections available to all". The vast majority of hate speech speechcrime cases (for which there has certainly been a dramatic increase in the past few years, thanks in large part to activist lobbies such as the jewish ones behind these prosecutions) involve direct personal abuse and/or threats of violence, not the expression of abstract political opinions as in the cases of Turner and Chabloz.

    That you seek to obfuscate the difference shows your inability to find any substantive justification for your position.

    But yes, the rising number of speechcrime arrests and prosecutions is a major problem. That other minority identity lobby groups also seek to abuse these laws to silence opposition does not make it any better that jewish groups do it, nor does it detract from the fact that jewish groups have openly been at the forefront of pushing these laws and these prosecutions. In this area, all the "minority" groups that qualify for special politically correct protection (ie not, for instance, white nationalists or Nazis, despite the despised minority status you attribute to them) exercise undue influence.

    It doesn’t mean that I need to like or respect her.
     
    Nobody said you have to, but when presented with a situation in which she has been wrongly targeted via the abuse of speechcrime laws by a group acting in your name as a jew, your choice of whether to slander and criticise her or to criticise those abusing these shameful laws to target her speaks volumes.


    Can you really say, hand on heart, that most of the London Forum lot aren’t Walter Mitty style fantasists? Jeremy Turner is a classic example of one. He likes to give off the aura of being an informer because in reality he was just a failed Signals – as in setting up HQ tents – Officer for a few years. I once met a former colleaugue of his who trained with him. Zero operational experience. Bottom third at Sandhurst.* Not even fun on a night out. At least Hitler was a bona fide war hero.
     
    I have no opinion on that, which is utterly irrelevant to the point under discussion here. You chose to raise the supposed issue of such people's delusions of self-importance as part of your choice to attack and denigrate the victims in order to avoid attaching blame to the perpetrators and the laws that enable them.

    As a matter of fact I've only even heard of Turner and this "London Forum", and of Chabloz, because of the way he and Chabloz have been persecuted politically via speechcrime harassment and convictions.
    , @Wally
    said:
    "And again, I’m all for Chabloz’s right to sing songs cackling about the slaughter of millions of innocents. Even to a group of self-styled men of action who wish to repeat that same crime. "

    Except your "slaughter of millions of innocents" is an impossible claim and simply not supported by proof.
    It is however quite profitable to The Usual Enemies of Free Speech and "that shitty little country".
    And how can "men of action" repeat a crime which did not occur. That's just more dumb Zionist double speak and a classic example of 'garbage in, garbage out'.

    "Truth is hate to those that hate the truth."
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  30. To a fanatic the perfect is the enemy of the good. And to blame all Jews for the actions of the few is truly stupid. I’m a tommytard and proud of it.

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    Except that the silent majority of the Jews support what's done in their name, despites their denials! Just look at Israel's actions and the wide support it gets in Israel among their own!
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  31. Tommy Robinson seems very much to be a British version of Richard Spencer (mutatis mutandis for differing national moods).

    There is an odd quality that similarly underlies the both of them. They do not behave like Alt-Right paragons but more like an outsider’s impression of how an Alt-Right person is likely to behave. In a word, they are caricatures. I do not believe that they are “controlled opposition,” as that thesis has too many moving parts. I believe they are both charismatic men with an inborn talent for opportunism who have latched on to Alt-Right causes. They are not hypocrites or cynical manipulators of popular opinion; it’s just that the question of what they really believe does not even occur to them in the same way it would to you or me.

    The appearance of such characters is hardly unusual in a nascent political transformation; in fact it is rather typical. But the fact that their existence is possible at all augers that we will one day get “better heroes.”

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    Richard Spencer is an internet hack who larps at being a Nazi.

    He also wears nice suits, sometimes, and speaks with a camp voice.

    For this, he once got sucker punched and another time had his gym membership revoked.

    Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit's hometown.

    He has also brought a huge amount of attention to the very real problem of radicalisation of prisoners into extremist Islam, gang behaviour and the endemic rape of underage girls.

    For this, he has been jailed, beaten to within an inch of his life and deliberately put into harm's way by the custodial authorities on repeated occasions.

    They are not equivalents.

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  32. Harbinger says:
    @anony-mouse
    Such brave people here who, like myself, go tippy-tappy on keyboards under pseudonyms on websites and criticize people who actually put themselves in actual physical danger. Two days after Memorial Day, too, not bad.

    “Such brave people here who, like myself, go tippy-tappy on keyboards under pseudonyms on websites and criticize people who actually put themselves in actual physical danger. Two days after Memorial Day, too, not bad.”

    I use a pseudonym because my name is a contract sealer for legal imprisonment for exercising freedom of speech. Why do you think so many people are being arrested for posting on social media under their own name – Facebook, Twitter etc?

    And Memorial Day
    Hmm….
    Ten years back, here in the UK, I was attacked walking home. I defended myself and in due course was arrested by the police, for causing a Breach of the Peace. The attacker paid his £150 fine and I spent a night in the cell. I refused to pay and went through the court malarkey, with doctored police CCTV evidence, but was eventually acquitted due to a witness not recognizing me, the police had called as theirs.
    And yet, members of the armed forces, KNOWINGLY, invade foreign lands, murder the indigenous, who are labeled as terrorists, destroy their civilization, bring about a refugee crisis whom many are piling into Europe causing chaos and yet, they come home, parade through the streets and are hailed as heroes, when they are nothing more than assassins of the Rothschild banking cabal, granted legal permission to go abroad and murder in the name of democracy?

    Is it me or is there something odd about a society that imprisons people for defending themselves against attack in their own lands, but celebrates armed forces personnel when they go abroad and murder people who pose them and their country no threat at all?

    Culloden in 1745 was the last battle fought on UK soil. Every other battle after that, the indigenous, now under the control of the English king become invaders of foreign lands and not defenders of their own. The English have been the same pretty much since William the Conqueror and the Battle of Hastings. The Americans’ last war on home soil was probably the wars with the Apaches, not long after the civil war.

    All wars of the twentieth century including those of today are wars for the establishment of Greater Israel. I’m not going to celebrate the actions and subsequent deaths of armed forces personnel who not only did wrong in fighting in these wars but have brought about the utter destruction of the west, ironically the very reason they went into these wars to stop from ever happening.

    “How dare you say that about brave men who gave their lives….blah….blah…..blah…..”
    Erm no.
    If the Nuremberg trials can falsely demonize work camp personnel and drill into the public the “we were only doing our jobs” statement doesn’t absolve you of criminality, then we must do the same with armed forces personnel who willingly followed orders, yet never bothered to check to see if what they were doing was wrong and they were in fact the terrorists bringing more harm to their nations than they realized. And worse, all of these men, in fighting for Zion have actually, unknowingly committed treason against their people and nation.

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    Harbinger, Very well stated...You obviously are very awake and wise about the Core problems we face in usa and uk as well as every white based nation does. I hope you keep posting replies here as you really do know of what you speak. Honest facts based posters and voices are an asset that is very needed today more than ever.


    Especially with so many zio paid troll Hasbara agents that show up on Q every time an article or a reply names the jew as a jewy jewish trouble makers and a true Misfortune wrecking and ruining our nations and peoples.
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  33. Bonus!

    The article right next to it at the top of Unz.com (written again under a pseudonym) goes after the massacred Tiananmin protestors.

    How brave are Unz.com writers and commenters.

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  34. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    Tommy Robinson seems very much to be a British version of Richard Spencer (mutatis mutandis for differing national moods).

    There is an odd quality that similarly underlies the both of them. They do not behave like Alt-Right paragons but more like an outsider's impression of how an Alt-Right person is likely to behave. In a word, they are caricatures. I do not believe that they are "controlled opposition," as that thesis has too many moving parts. I believe they are both charismatic men with an inborn talent for opportunism who have latched on to Alt-Right causes. They are not hypocrites or cynical manipulators of popular opinion; it's just that the question of what they really believe does not even occur to them in the same way it would to you or me.

    The appearance of such characters is hardly unusual in a nascent political transformation; in fact it is rather typical. But the fact that their existence is possible at all augers that we will one day get "better heroes."

    Richard Spencer is an internet hack who larps at being a Nazi.

    He also wears nice suits, sometimes, and speaks with a camp voice.

    For this, he once got sucker punched and another time had his gym membership revoked.

    Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit’s hometown.

    He has also brought a huge amount of attention to the very real problem of radicalisation of prisoners into extremist Islam, gang behaviour and the endemic rape of underage girls.

    For this, he has been jailed, beaten to within an inch of his life and deliberately put into harm’s way by the custodial authorities on repeated occasions.

    They are not equivalents.

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    "Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit’s hometown."
     
    So, in condemning the Muslims, you condone the British soldiers - correct?
    And tell me, just who are the British soldiers defending when they are in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and soon to be other conflicts, for the creation of Greater Israel?
    Are they defending the British against the rise of Islam within the UK?
    Do you think if they had instead been in Rotherham, marching through the streets and grabbing Muslims en mass, the scandal would ever have happened, involving many girls, whom ironically whored themselves out to these Muslims for alcohol, drugs and sex?

    You see, people like you never ask questions.
    You always seem to miss the wood for the trees in every given situation.
    Why were British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Did any of these nations pose ANY THREAT whatsoever to the people of the UK?
    More so, now there are refugees FROM those lands, in the UK filled with bitter hatred and contempt, with murderous intent towards people who they hold responsible and correctly, for the destruction of their nation, the murder of the families, loved ones and fellow nationals.

    If I go down the street tomorrow, with a gun and kill someone, I'll be arrested, put in a cell, awaiting trial and when that day comes, will be found guilty of murder. On the other hand, British forces are given a legal authority, a free pass, by a government to go into a foreign land, kill the defenders and come home to absolutely no incrimination for their actions.
    And you condone this?

    More so, people like you fail to ask "why are we allowing Muslims into our lands en mass?" You don't bother to dig a little deeper into who is behind this and why.

    Tommy Robinson is there for one reason - to rally support for Israeli nationalism amongst British nationalists and in due course destroy the very concept of nationalism as he promotes multiculturalism, multiracialism, LGBTQ and overall a civic nationalist cause, which is an oxymoron.

    You have to think about where you stand in all of this. Are you a globalist or are you a nationalist. It seems to me that you are a globalist in your assertions, although you falsely believe you are a nationlist.

    , @Randal

    Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit’s hometown.

    He has also brought a huge amount of attention to the very real problem of radicalisation of prisoners into extremist Islam, gang behaviour and the endemic rape of underage girls.
     
    Fine to point those things out, which will appeal to those here who regard islam as a problem and to those who support the military even when it is being misused by the government (of whom there are many on the right).

    But for a balanced assessment it should be born in mind that Robinson would (probably literally) spit on most members here as "racists" if they disagree with pc establishment anti-white dogma, "anti-Semites" if they are concerned about jewish influence or oppose Israel in any way, "homophobes" if they disapprove of pc establishment dogma, etc.
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  35. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2
    I didn't argue against free speech. Not even a little bit. I just pointed out that speaking like paranoiac lunatics doesn't get you a whole lot of public sympathy.

    That you can't understand why I write this only further justifies my previous comment.

    The so-called *woke* British Nationalist scene that half of these comments claim as the true nationalist lot is the hated fringe of a fringe of a fringe. Perhaps that is because of brainwash magical style Jewish scheming...or perhaps you guys are just really unlikeable...

    Have you considered the latter?

    As for Chabloz's eventual small fine being out of place in the British legal system. It isn't. Hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily. Most have no mention of Jews. Your special pleading doesn't cut it.

    Oh, but they had to fund it themselves through a private prosecution...

    Oh, but they got half an hour of desk time with a upper-middle ranking police bureaucrat...

    Oh, but it was a song and songs are different...

    Lol. Who are you kidding?

    And again, I'm all for Chabloz's right to sing songs cackling about the slaughter of millions of innocents. Even to a group of self-styled men of action who wish to repeat that same crime. Whatever floats her wretched boat. It doesn't mean that I need to like or respect her.


    This and most of the rest of your post would appear to be mere desperate abuse on your part, and clearly false.
     
    Can you really say, hand on heart, that most of the London Forum lot aren't Walter Mitty style fantasists? Jeremy Turner is a classic example of one. He likes to give off the aura of being an informer because in reality he was just a failed Signals - as in setting up HQ tents - Officer for a few years. I once met a former colleaugue of his who trained with him. Zero operational experience. Bottom third at Sandhurst.* Not even fun on a night out. At least Hitler was a bona fide war hero.

    *Nothing wrong with that if at least he'd been a bit of fun. Alas...

    I didn’t argue against free speech. Not even a little bit. I just pointed out that speaking like paranoiac lunatics doesn’t get you a whole lot of public sympathy.

    Of course I didn’t say you “argued against free speech”, I pointed out that you chose to attack the victims instead of focussing on the perpetrators and the wrongness of what they are doing (as you have chosen to do here again).

    The so-called *woke* British Nationalist scene that half of these comments claim as the true nationalist lot is the hated fringe of a fringe of a fringe. Perhaps that is because of brainwash magical style Jewish scheming…or perhaps you guys are just really unlikeable…

    Again, you resort to desperate and pointless abuse. Why do you feel the need to do so? It’s not as though I’ve argued the contrary myself – in fact I’ve repeatedly pointed out here the fact that “racists” and “antisemites” are a marginalised and excluded minority in US sphere societies, and that is a large contributory aspect to our problems.

    Though clearly there are wealthy and powerful people who think these people are sufficiently important to go to considerable effort to prevent them from speaking freely.

    As for Chabloz’s eventual small fine being out of place in the British legal system. It isn’t. Hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily. Most have no mention of Jews. Your special pleading doesn’t cut it.

    First, you have no basis for claiming Chabloz will eventually get a “small fine”, since she has not been sentenced yet and has been specifically warned of the possibility of a prison sentence (as Turner has already received). And it’s hardly as though being prosecuted, tried, and convicted of a supposed criminal offence for merely expressing an opinion is “ok” as long as no prison time is involved. More hypocrisy on your part here, clearly.

    Second, your assertion that “hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily” as a supposed justification for the charging of Chabloz is absurd. As I previously challenged you, do feel free to point out any cases you know of where people were convicted for saying offensive, hateful things about Christianity or about white people, since your claim is that these are just “protections available to all”. The vast majority of hate speech speechcrime cases (for which there has certainly been a dramatic increase in the past few years, thanks in large part to activist lobbies such as the jewish ones behind these prosecutions) involve direct personal abuse and/or threats of violence, not the expression of abstract political opinions as in the cases of Turner and Chabloz.

    That you seek to obfuscate the difference shows your inability to find any substantive justification for your position.

    But yes, the rising number of speechcrime arrests and prosecutions is a major problem. That other minority identity lobby groups also seek to abuse these laws to silence opposition does not make it any better that jewish groups do it, nor does it detract from the fact that jewish groups have openly been at the forefront of pushing these laws and these prosecutions. In this area, all the “minority” groups that qualify for special politically correct protection (ie not, for instance, white nationalists or Nazis, despite the despised minority status you attribute to them) exercise undue influence.

    It doesn’t mean that I need to like or respect her.

    Nobody said you have to, but when presented with a situation in which she has been wrongly targeted via the abuse of speechcrime laws by a group acting in your name as a jew, your choice of whether to slander and criticise her or to criticise those abusing these shameful laws to target her speaks volumes.

    Can you really say, hand on heart, that most of the London Forum lot aren’t Walter Mitty style fantasists? Jeremy Turner is a classic example of one. He likes to give off the aura of being an informer because in reality he was just a failed Signals – as in setting up HQ tents – Officer for a few years. I once met a former colleaugue of his who trained with him. Zero operational experience. Bottom third at Sandhurst.* Not even fun on a night out. At least Hitler was a bona fide war hero.

    I have no opinion on that, which is utterly irrelevant to the point under discussion here. You chose to raise the supposed issue of such people’s delusions of self-importance as part of your choice to attack and denigrate the victims in order to avoid attaching blame to the perpetrators and the laws that enable them.

    As a matter of fact I’ve only even heard of Turner and this “London Forum”, and of Chabloz, because of the way he and Chabloz have been persecuted politically via speechcrime harassment and convictions.

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    Of course I didn’t say you “argued against free speech”, I pointed out that you chose to attack the victims instead of focussing on the perpetrators and the wrongness of what they are doing (as you have chosen to do here again)
     
    Um..pot...kettle...

    Do you not see how my response was to your post and this article which did precisely what you accuse me of?


    Though clearly there are wealthy and powerful people who think these people are sufficiently important to go to considerable effort to prevent them from speaking freely.
     
    The real explanation is that those powerful people are cruel and self-indulgent and enjoy causing trouble for these self-important losers and know that there'll be no popular backlash to their amusement...because no-one cares about their incredibly unlikeable victims.

    Of course your point above is a prime example of the self-aggrandising delusional thinking that makes such groups so unlikeable.


    Second, your assertion that “hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily” as a supposed justification for the charging of Chabloz is absurd. As I previously challenged you, do feel free to point out any cases you know of where people were convicted for saying offensive, hateful things about Christianity or about white people, since your claim is that these are just “protections available to all”. The vast majority of hate speech speechcrime cases (for which there has certainly been a dramatic increase in the past few years, thanks in large part to activist lobbies such as the jewish ones behind these prosecutions) involve direct personal abuse and/or threats of violence, not the expression of abstract political opinions as in the cases of Turner and Chabloz
     
    I wasn't justifying it. I was merely saying that it is ordinary. Which it is. You're being disingenuous again.

    Also your supposed quote of me is not a quote of me at all. You just made that up...again...very disingenuous.

    ...so...to sum up...you attacked me for a what you actually did....you engaged in a bit of self-aggrandiding nonsense and then you made up a position of mine (again) and made up a quote.

    Perhaps try harder?

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  36. So, Tommy Robinson is Donald Trump as a football hooligan. Thanks for clearing that up.

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  37. Crimson2 says:

    I should have known that this was going to be a “This racist isn’t racist enough!” post. This is The Unz Review, after all.

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    Other websites are available.

    You're welcome.
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  38. Harbinger says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Richard Spencer is an internet hack who larps at being a Nazi.

    He also wears nice suits, sometimes, and speaks with a camp voice.

    For this, he once got sucker punched and another time had his gym membership revoked.

    Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit's hometown.

    He has also brought a huge amount of attention to the very real problem of radicalisation of prisoners into extremist Islam, gang behaviour and the endemic rape of underage girls.

    For this, he has been jailed, beaten to within an inch of his life and deliberately put into harm's way by the custodial authorities on repeated occasions.

    They are not equivalents.

    “Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit’s hometown.”

    So, in condemning the Muslims, you condone the British soldiers – correct?
    And tell me, just who are the British soldiers defending when they are in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and soon to be other conflicts, for the creation of Greater Israel?
    Are they defending the British against the rise of Islam within the UK?
    Do you think if they had instead been in Rotherham, marching through the streets and grabbing Muslims en mass, the scandal would ever have happened, involving many girls, whom ironically whored themselves out to these Muslims for alcohol, drugs and sex?

    You see, people like you never ask questions.
    You always seem to miss the wood for the trees in every given situation.
    Why were British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Did any of these nations pose ANY THREAT whatsoever to the people of the UK?
    More so, now there are refugees FROM those lands, in the UK filled with bitter hatred and contempt, with murderous intent towards people who they hold responsible and correctly, for the destruction of their nation, the murder of the families, loved ones and fellow nationals.

    If I go down the street tomorrow, with a gun and kill someone, I’ll be arrested, put in a cell, awaiting trial and when that day comes, will be found guilty of murder. On the other hand, British forces are given a legal authority, a free pass, by a government to go into a foreign land, kill the defenders and come home to absolutely no incrimination for their actions.
    And you condone this?

    More so, people like you fail to ask “why are we allowing Muslims into our lands en mass?” You don’t bother to dig a little deeper into who is behind this and why.

    Tommy Robinson is there for one reason – to rally support for Israeli nationalism amongst British nationalists and in due course destroy the very concept of nationalism as he promotes multiculturalism, multiracialism, LGBTQ and overall a civic nationalist cause, which is an oxymoron.

    You have to think about where you stand in all of this. Are you a globalist or are you a nationalist. It seems to me that you are a globalist in your assertions, although you falsely believe you are a nationlist.

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    British soldiers are sent abroad as ordered by the British government. The government is the (admittedly somewhat blurred) result of the British people's will. It is therefore an absolute disgrace for British soldiers to return home from placing their lives on the line and be attacked en masse on the streets.

    Even German soldiers in WWII, when captured by us, were considered 'victims of war' - as per the Geneva convention and as per common decency.

    This education in civilisation should be enough to persuade you. Even the radical left generally gets it. The soldiers have virtuously subsumed some of their will to a greater organisation. That of their nation state.

    Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!

    , @jilles dykstra
    " You see, people like you never ask questions.
    You always seem to miss the wood for the trees in every given situation.
    Why were British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Did any of these nations pose ANY THREAT whatsoever to the people of the UK?
    More so, now there are refugees FROM those lands, in the UK filled with bitter hatred and contempt, with murderous intent towards people who they hold responsible and correctly, for the destruction of their nation, the murder of the families, loved ones and fellow nationals. "

    Ockham's Razor: destabilise the mentioned countries, AND destroy European cultures, maybe cause civil wars in European countries.
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  39. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Richard Spencer is an internet hack who larps at being a Nazi.

    He also wears nice suits, sometimes, and speaks with a camp voice.

    For this, he once got sucker punched and another time had his gym membership revoked.

    Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit's hometown.

    He has also brought a huge amount of attention to the very real problem of radicalisation of prisoners into extremist Islam, gang behaviour and the endemic rape of underage girls.

    For this, he has been jailed, beaten to within an inch of his life and deliberately put into harm's way by the custodial authorities on repeated occasions.

    They are not equivalents.

    Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit’s hometown.

    He has also brought a huge amount of attention to the very real problem of radicalisation of prisoners into extremist Islam, gang behaviour and the endemic rape of underage girls.

    Fine to point those things out, which will appeal to those here who regard islam as a problem and to those who support the military even when it is being misused by the government (of whom there are many on the right).

    But for a balanced assessment it should be born in mind that Robinson would (probably literally) spit on most members here as “racists” if they disagree with pc establishment anti-white dogma, “anti-Semites” if they are concerned about jewish influence or oppose Israel in any way, “homophobes” if they disapprove of pc establishment dogma, etc.

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  40. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    I didn’t argue against free speech. Not even a little bit. I just pointed out that speaking like paranoiac lunatics doesn’t get you a whole lot of public sympathy.
     
    Of course I didn't say you "argued against free speech", I pointed out that you chose to attack the victims instead of focussing on the perpetrators and the wrongness of what they are doing (as you have chosen to do here again).


    The so-called *woke* British Nationalist scene that half of these comments claim as the true nationalist lot is the hated fringe of a fringe of a fringe. Perhaps that is because of brainwash magical style Jewish scheming…or perhaps you guys are just really unlikeable…
     
    Again, you resort to desperate and pointless abuse. Why do you feel the need to do so? It's not as though I've argued the contrary myself - in fact I've repeatedly pointed out here the fact that "racists" and "antisemites" are a marginalised and excluded minority in US sphere societies, and that is a large contributory aspect to our problems.

    Though clearly there are wealthy and powerful people who think these people are sufficiently important to go to considerable effort to prevent them from speaking freely.

    As for Chabloz’s eventual small fine being out of place in the British legal system. It isn’t. Hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily. Most have no mention of Jews. Your special pleading doesn’t cut it.
     
    First, you have no basis for claiming Chabloz will eventually get a "small fine", since she has not been sentenced yet and has been specifically warned of the possibility of a prison sentence (as Turner has already received). And it's hardly as though being prosecuted, tried, and convicted of a supposed criminal offence for merely expressing an opinion is "ok" as long as no prison time is involved. More hypocrisy on your part here, clearly.

    Second, your assertion that "hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily" as a supposed justification for the charging of Chabloz is absurd. As I previously challenged you, do feel free to point out any cases you know of where people were convicted for saying offensive, hateful things about Christianity or about white people, since your claim is that these are just "protections available to all". The vast majority of hate speech speechcrime cases (for which there has certainly been a dramatic increase in the past few years, thanks in large part to activist lobbies such as the jewish ones behind these prosecutions) involve direct personal abuse and/or threats of violence, not the expression of abstract political opinions as in the cases of Turner and Chabloz.

    That you seek to obfuscate the difference shows your inability to find any substantive justification for your position.

    But yes, the rising number of speechcrime arrests and prosecutions is a major problem. That other minority identity lobby groups also seek to abuse these laws to silence opposition does not make it any better that jewish groups do it, nor does it detract from the fact that jewish groups have openly been at the forefront of pushing these laws and these prosecutions. In this area, all the "minority" groups that qualify for special politically correct protection (ie not, for instance, white nationalists or Nazis, despite the despised minority status you attribute to them) exercise undue influence.

    It doesn’t mean that I need to like or respect her.
     
    Nobody said you have to, but when presented with a situation in which she has been wrongly targeted via the abuse of speechcrime laws by a group acting in your name as a jew, your choice of whether to slander and criticise her or to criticise those abusing these shameful laws to target her speaks volumes.


    Can you really say, hand on heart, that most of the London Forum lot aren’t Walter Mitty style fantasists? Jeremy Turner is a classic example of one. He likes to give off the aura of being an informer because in reality he was just a failed Signals – as in setting up HQ tents – Officer for a few years. I once met a former colleaugue of his who trained with him. Zero operational experience. Bottom third at Sandhurst.* Not even fun on a night out. At least Hitler was a bona fide war hero.
     
    I have no opinion on that, which is utterly irrelevant to the point under discussion here. You chose to raise the supposed issue of such people's delusions of self-importance as part of your choice to attack and denigrate the victims in order to avoid attaching blame to the perpetrators and the laws that enable them.

    As a matter of fact I've only even heard of Turner and this "London Forum", and of Chabloz, because of the way he and Chabloz have been persecuted politically via speechcrime harassment and convictions.

    Of course I didn’t say you “argued against free speech”, I pointed out that you chose to attack the victims instead of focussing on the perpetrators and the wrongness of what they are doing (as you have chosen to do here again)

    Um..pot…kettle…

    Do you not see how my response was to your post and this article which did precisely what you accuse me of?

    Though clearly there are wealthy and powerful people who think these people are sufficiently important to go to considerable effort to prevent them from speaking freely.

    The real explanation is that those powerful people are cruel and self-indulgent and enjoy causing trouble for these self-important losers and know that there’ll be no popular backlash to their amusement…because no-one cares about their incredibly unlikeable victims.

    Of course your point above is a prime example of the self-aggrandising delusional thinking that makes such groups so unlikeable.

    Second, your assertion that “hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily” as a supposed justification for the charging of Chabloz is absurd. As I previously challenged you, do feel free to point out any cases you know of where people were convicted for saying offensive, hateful things about Christianity or about white people, since your claim is that these are just “protections available to all”. The vast majority of hate speech speechcrime cases (for which there has certainly been a dramatic increase in the past few years, thanks in large part to activist lobbies such as the jewish ones behind these prosecutions) involve direct personal abuse and/or threats of violence, not the expression of abstract political opinions as in the cases of Turner and Chabloz

    I wasn’t justifying it. I was merely saying that it is ordinary. Which it is. You’re being disingenuous again.

    Also your supposed quote of me is not a quote of me at all. You just made that up…again…very disingenuous.

    …so…to sum up…you attacked me for a what you actually did….you engaged in a bit of self-aggrandiding nonsense and then you made up a position of mine (again) and made up a quote.

    Perhaps try harder?

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    Wow, talk about some grade-A Hebrew doublespeak.

    You absolutely did argue against free speech, when you claimed that legal punishment for upsetting Jews is merely "protection" (cry out in pain as you strike us, much?) "available to everyone," which you know full it's not. Randal pointed this out, you made no attempt to address his point and acted as though that gave your own dishonesty validity. Seriously, Hitler could have written a whole chapter on your style of "debate." Oh, wait...
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  41. @DFH
    Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jewish interests. Ironically Revelations, which is of course where the imagery for the poem comes from, is very anti-Jewish. The King of Israel is God because Israel means the Church.

    Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jewish interests? Is that just like Moscow has nothing to do with Russian interests, or Bejing has nothing to do with Chinese interests?

    The Jewish author of Revelation is not anti-Jewish; being the right-believing kind of Jew to him is extremely important. He merely attempts the twisted logic of saying any Jew who disagrees with his Jewish cult is not a Jew.

    Which is as silly as a Mongolian saying any Mongolians who disagree with his Mongolian cult aren’t genetically Mongolian, and belong to the Mongolian Grill of Satankhan.

    So why are you taking one Jew’s side in a Jewish spat using Jewish insults against other Jews? Do you always stick your nose in other race’s disputes? Hey, maybe you’re a bit Jewish yourself! :)

    The proper role of a European who observes a Jewish imbroglio is to be as wise as the European fellow Pilate.

    “Must I add that, in the whole New Testament, there appears but a solitary figure worthy of honour? Pilate, the Roman viceroy. To regard a Jewish imbroglio seriously – that was quite beyond him. One Jew more or less – what did it matter?” (Friedrich Nietzsche)

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  42. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Harbinger

    "Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit’s hometown."
     
    So, in condemning the Muslims, you condone the British soldiers - correct?
    And tell me, just who are the British soldiers defending when they are in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and soon to be other conflicts, for the creation of Greater Israel?
    Are they defending the British against the rise of Islam within the UK?
    Do you think if they had instead been in Rotherham, marching through the streets and grabbing Muslims en mass, the scandal would ever have happened, involving many girls, whom ironically whored themselves out to these Muslims for alcohol, drugs and sex?

    You see, people like you never ask questions.
    You always seem to miss the wood for the trees in every given situation.
    Why were British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Did any of these nations pose ANY THREAT whatsoever to the people of the UK?
    More so, now there are refugees FROM those lands, in the UK filled with bitter hatred and contempt, with murderous intent towards people who they hold responsible and correctly, for the destruction of their nation, the murder of the families, loved ones and fellow nationals.

    If I go down the street tomorrow, with a gun and kill someone, I'll be arrested, put in a cell, awaiting trial and when that day comes, will be found guilty of murder. On the other hand, British forces are given a legal authority, a free pass, by a government to go into a foreign land, kill the defenders and come home to absolutely no incrimination for their actions.
    And you condone this?

    More so, people like you fail to ask "why are we allowing Muslims into our lands en mass?" You don't bother to dig a little deeper into who is behind this and why.

    Tommy Robinson is there for one reason - to rally support for Israeli nationalism amongst British nationalists and in due course destroy the very concept of nationalism as he promotes multiculturalism, multiracialism, LGBTQ and overall a civic nationalist cause, which is an oxymoron.

    You have to think about where you stand in all of this. Are you a globalist or are you a nationalist. It seems to me that you are a globalist in your assertions, although you falsely believe you are a nationlist.

    British soldiers are sent abroad as ordered by the British government. The government is the (admittedly somewhat blurred) result of the British people’s will. It is therefore an absolute disgrace for British soldiers to return home from placing their lives on the line and be attacked en masse on the streets.

    Even German soldiers in WWII, when captured by us, were considered ‘victims of war’ – as per the Geneva convention and as per common decency.

    This education in civilisation should be enough to persuade you. Even the radical left generally gets it. The soldiers have virtuously subsumed some of their will to a greater organisation. That of their nation state.

    Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!

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    British soldiers in WWII were considered gentlemen.
    Germans going into allied captivity never realised that many Americans were not gentlemen, until it was too late.
    , @Harbinger
    I really don't know why I bother at times.....
    Most people, that is most people with the slightest modicum of common sense normally understand what I've written first time around. You're clearly having a problem with that.

    "British soldiers are sent abroad as ordered by the British government. The government is the (admittedly somewhat blurred) result of the British people’s will. It is therefore an absolute disgrace for British soldiers to return home from placing their lives on the line and be attacked en masse on the streets."
     
    And who controls the British government? Could it, perhaps be, the City of London, that is a country within a country, completely controlled by the Crown, which is the Rothschild Banking Cabal and British Israel? If the government is the "somewhat blurred" will of the British people, then what does that say of the British people? Who precisely are the British soldiers putting their lives on the line for? Did I want the wars in Iraq, 1985, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Of course I didn't and you'll find that many, many people did not want them either.
    Who did then? I'll let you figure that out for yourself.

    "Even German soldiers in WWII, when captured by us, were considered ‘victims of war’ – as per the Geneva convention and as per common decency."
     
    Were they?
    Maybe this video might open your eyes somewhat? I'll let you into a little secret shall I? The Holocaust narrative and Nuremberg Trials were created, for many reasons, one of those was incidentally to cover up allied war crimes committed during and after WW2.

    "This education in civilisation should be enough to persuade you. Even the radical left generally gets it. The soldiers have virtuously subsumed some of their will to a greater organisation. That of their nation state."
     
    And again I will state: just what threat did the Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans and Syrians pose to the UK? They posed none. The armed forces personnel, through their actions HAVE COMMITTED TREASON AGAINST THE BRITISH PEOPLE by invading a foreign land, UNLAWFULLY and done nothing while immigrants have invaded their land and harmed their people. They have failed in the very purpose of being members of the armed forces, there to protect the nation!

    "Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!"
     
    Quite the contrary, there is only one, in this debate, showing any moral grounding whatsoever and that is most certainly NOT YOU nor the armed forces you vehemently defend.
    The definition of 'moral' as promoted on Dictionary.com is:

    "of, relating to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical"
     
    Now, tell me, where was the right in the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Where were the morals of the armed forces then?
    As I have stated already, if German soldiers, can be sentenced to death for 'just following orders' then what does that say for British ones, in their mass slaughter of defenders of nations they've invaded?

    Have you ever read Dante Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy?
    If you have you will be knowledgeable of the first part, Dante's Inferno. You will know that Dante realized that the church could not absolve them of the sins that they had, themselves, created. He realized that their moral crusade to win back the Holy land was most certainly not moral.
    Simply put, Tyrion2, had any of the British armed forces any moral compass, whatsoever, they would have rather faced a court-martial than invade a land and murder people who posed their nation and themselves, no threat whatsoever. The threat ironically created was by themselves.
    The soldiers have done the murdering, not the politicians who told them to. If there is a judgement after life, then most certainly those who murdered will face retribution for murder, although the politicians will for deceit.

    It's high time armed forces personnel started to question their actions and more so the commands of their superiors. Who after all is the bigger fool - the fool or the fool that follows?

    , @hyperbola

    Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!
     
    Sounds like you belong to the "chosen people" class that likes to kill plebes. Here is a recent article in the American context that is appropriate for you.

    How to Honor Memorial Day
    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/27/how-to-honor-memorial-day-2/
    How best to show respect for the U.S. troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and for their families on Memorial Day? Simple: Avoid euphemisms like “the fallen” and expose the lies about what a great idea it was to start those wars in the first place and then to “surge” tens of thousands of more troops into those fools’ errands.

    First, let’s be clear on at least this much: the 4,500 U.S. troops killed in Iraq so far and the 2,350 killed in Afghanistan [by May 2015] did not “fall.” They were wasted on no-win battlefields by politicians and generals cheered on by neocon pundits and mainstream “journalists” almost none of whom gave a rat’s patootie about the real-life-and-death troops. They were throwaway soldiers.

    And, as for the “successful surges,” they were just P.R. devices to buy some “decent intervals” for the architects of these wars and their boosters to get space between themselves and the disastrous endings while pretending that those defeats were really “victories squandered” all at the “acceptable” price of about 1,000 dead U.S. soldiers each and many times that in dead Iraqis and Afghans.

    Memorial Day should be a time for honesty about what enabled the killing and maiming of so many U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama and the senior military brass simply took full advantage of a poverty draft that gives upper-class sons and daughters the equivalent of exemptions, vaccinating them against the disease of war.....
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  43. @Harbinger

    "Where are the people protesting the granny being locked up for questioning the holohoax?"
     
    Think about this for a minute?
    If it was found out that the holocaust was a lie and the figures greatly exaggerated what do you think the impact would be on Jewry. They would not only be called out and eventually seen as the compulsive liars that they are, but their financial empire would instantly collapse. All of the shrines built (holocaust museums), throughout the west would be demolished. All funding for Israel would stop. All funds from Germany would have to be paid back. Investigations would start all over as Jews were kicked out of positions of power, such as into the USS Liberty, 9/11, 7/7 etc. Israel would become a rogue state, most certainly with the west uniting to remove it permanently, dissolving the Balfour Declaration. Jews would not be safe in any western city, especially with no longer having control of the msm and academia, the truth will be told of the past. Plans for white genocide, behind the mass immigration of Muslims and Africans to destroy the indigenous.....

    The bottom line is a simple one, if people started to protest Ursula Haverbeck being incarcerated and the truth started to out, it would bring about a REAL holocaust of Jews, not the phony 6million, but instead the 15 million worldwide, where it would literally be open hunting season on them, 24/7.
    Jews are absolutely terrified that the truth will come out about their deceit throughout history. It is why they have total control of academia, the church and the msm (among many other institutions) because these two are the most important for the indoctrination and brainwashing of the public. This is why they are rapidly seeking control of the internet and pushing through as much anti freedom legislation in the form of anti terrorism legislation in order to completely control the narrative and destroy any chance of people finding out the truth. They know that if there is one slip up, their game is over for good.

    It is difficult to know what someone thinks, though in this world there are a lot of mind readers.
    I’m not one of them.
    So, for example, Trump still puzzles me.

    Even FDR puzzles me.
    Though I’m convinced he was brought into politics to wage war I do not know if this was just what he had agreed to do or that he himself wanted it.
    In his last speech to congress he did not completely follow the text that was prepared for him, the text, I suppose, as was customary, he had agreed to.
    Sherwood, one of the speech writers, describes the procedure.
    What was not in the prepared text is that he said, according to Sherwood, ‘that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters from rabbi’s’.
    FDR was therefore not, in my opinion, a puppet.

    Why jews behave as they do, that is to say a few thousand, my guess, leading jews, I do not know.
    Is it fear ‘unless we control the world w’re finished’, or is it ‘we got away with much, let us try this’.
    Or ‘christians treated us badly for 2000 years, therefore we are right in trying to destroy christianity’ ?

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    Even FDR puzzles me.
    Though I’m convinced he was brought into politics to wage war I do not know if this was just what he had agreed to do or that he himself wanted it.
    In his last speech to congress he did not completely follow the text that was prepared for him, the text, I suppose, as was customary, he had agreed to.
    Sherwood, one of the speech writers, describes the procedure.
    What was not in the prepared text is that he said, according to Sherwood, ‘that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters from rabbi’s’.
    FDR was therefore not, in my opinion, a puppet.
     
    My grandmother had a connection with Eleanor Roosevelt that began in 1930. She often spoke about it. There was considerable tension between Eleanor and the President. Eleanor went to a boarding school in England where the girls all had to speak French. She was a fanatical supporter of those two countries. It is well known that Franklin was a paraplegic. His wife physically dominated him to the point of abuse. Supposedly she sometimes shot him up with heroin and locked him in a closet to keep him from rolling into important meetings she held in the White House. During his second term he was pushed out of the government altogether with the help of an actor originally hired to campaign for him and read his speeches. That is why they kept changing vice presidents: very few people knew the president well enough to be sure he was missing. Among Roosevelt's children only the two oldest knew of the deception.

    Franklin was anti-war; Eleanor was pro-war. She liked to see men fighting and spilling blood.
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  44. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Good article.

    In Britain, what the Gruniard likes to call the far-right-wing extremists, aka Britons for a white Briton, all seem to be fakes of some sort, presumably controlled and funded by some state agency such as MI5.

    Nick Griffin, a Cambridge University law graduate, was surely a prime example. He gained control of the British National Party, built the party up to the point of winning seats on many local councils, only to trash the party in the run up to the 201o Parliamentary election by having his knuckle-dragging body guard beat up a a reporter from the Times, accusing his campaign manager of attempting to murder him, and then as a grand finale, appearing in a publicly funded national TV broadcast seated at a desk with a giant jar of Marmite, a stupidity that led Unilever Corporation to threaten a copyright infringement suit against the Party. Needless to say, the Party having thus served its purpose in coloring all British nationalist as far-right-wing thugs and nutters, completely flunked in the election.

    Tommy Robinson, aka, Stephen, Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (his actual and rather more aristocratic name), Andrew MacMaster, Paul Harris, etc., is surely another such operative. A cold-blood psycho with a history of violence and criminal behavior.

    Yaxley-Lennon’s role, surely, will prove to be that of convincing ordinary more or less thoughtless people, i.e., most people, that Islamophobes are nothing but e a bunch of cold-blooded psychos like Yaxley-Lennon.

    For now, however, Lennon is in the build-up phase, and possible shopping any real opponents of the genocide of the British nation under the auspices of Thereason May’s laughably named Conservative Party.

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  45. Randal says:

    Um..pot…kettle…

    Do you not see how my response was to your post and this article which did precisely what you accuse me of?

    LOL! I wondered if you’d try that one.

    No, of course your response, and your choice to respond here to the harassment of Turner and Chabloz for expressing opinions by attacking th victims rather than the perpetrators wasn’t in any way directed at any real or supposed equivalent action by me – it was, as you made clear, a response to my comment about excess jewish influence being behind the aforementioned harassment.

    As to the point you are trying to score, no there is no equivalence here. My comment on the freedom of speech aspect was precisely to distinguish what Robinson did (make a deliberately provocative protest breaching a prior court order in the hope of getting what he got for promotional purposes) from what Turner and Chabloz were harassed for – expressing political opinions.

    As a separate issue I do attack Robinson – for himself choosing to aggressively attack conservative/nationalist dissenters for failing to toe the establishment pc lines.

    The real explanation is that those powerful people are cruel and self-indulgent and enjoy causing trouble for these self-important losers and know that there’ll be no popular backlash to their amusement…because no-one cares about their incredibly unlikeable victims.

    Of course your point above is a prime example of the self-aggrandising delusional thinking that makes such groups so unlikeable.

    So my position is that organised lobby groups going to considerable effort to change laws and influence their application represents motivated political action. Your response is to claim that, no, it’s just the cruel whims of a few nasty individuals.

    I think it can be safely left hanging there at that.

    I wasn’t justifying it. I was merely saying that it is ordinary. Which it is. You’re being disingenuous again.

    Obviously, as I pointed out, it isn’t remotely “ordinary”, and equally obviously trying to claim something is “ordinary” in the way you did is precisely trying to normalise and therefore defend it. In other words, in ordinary parlance, to justify it.

    You still haven’t given a single example of the use of these “normal” protections “available to everyone” being applied to prosecute someone for saying nasty things about whites or Christians, or about a despised and powerless minority such as white nationalists or Nazis, by the way. Surely it must be easy to raise examples of something so normal and commonplace?

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    Every point you made is a misrepresentation of what I wrote. I no longer imagine it is by mistake. You've now made up quotes in quote marks from me on multiple occasions. If you're not a troll then prove it by stopping grossly mischaracterising what I've written. Otherwise, I'm talking with a child.
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  46. @Harbinger

    "Tommy Robinson helped birth a genuine grass-roots reaction to British soldiers being spat on and harangued by Muslim thugs during a parade in their unit’s hometown."
     
    So, in condemning the Muslims, you condone the British soldiers - correct?
    And tell me, just who are the British soldiers defending when they are in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and soon to be other conflicts, for the creation of Greater Israel?
    Are they defending the British against the rise of Islam within the UK?
    Do you think if they had instead been in Rotherham, marching through the streets and grabbing Muslims en mass, the scandal would ever have happened, involving many girls, whom ironically whored themselves out to these Muslims for alcohol, drugs and sex?

    You see, people like you never ask questions.
    You always seem to miss the wood for the trees in every given situation.
    Why were British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Did any of these nations pose ANY THREAT whatsoever to the people of the UK?
    More so, now there are refugees FROM those lands, in the UK filled with bitter hatred and contempt, with murderous intent towards people who they hold responsible and correctly, for the destruction of their nation, the murder of the families, loved ones and fellow nationals.

    If I go down the street tomorrow, with a gun and kill someone, I'll be arrested, put in a cell, awaiting trial and when that day comes, will be found guilty of murder. On the other hand, British forces are given a legal authority, a free pass, by a government to go into a foreign land, kill the defenders and come home to absolutely no incrimination for their actions.
    And you condone this?

    More so, people like you fail to ask "why are we allowing Muslims into our lands en mass?" You don't bother to dig a little deeper into who is behind this and why.

    Tommy Robinson is there for one reason - to rally support for Israeli nationalism amongst British nationalists and in due course destroy the very concept of nationalism as he promotes multiculturalism, multiracialism, LGBTQ and overall a civic nationalist cause, which is an oxymoron.

    You have to think about where you stand in all of this. Are you a globalist or are you a nationalist. It seems to me that you are a globalist in your assertions, although you falsely believe you are a nationlist.

    ” You see, people like you never ask questions.
    You always seem to miss the wood for the trees in every given situation.
    Why were British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Did any of these nations pose ANY THREAT whatsoever to the people of the UK?
    More so, now there are refugees FROM those lands, in the UK filled with bitter hatred and contempt, with murderous intent towards people who they hold responsible and correctly, for the destruction of their nation, the murder of the families, loved ones and fellow nationals. ”

    Ockham’s Razor: destabilise the mentioned countries, AND destroy European cultures, maybe cause civil wars in European countries.

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  47. @Tyrion 2
    British soldiers are sent abroad as ordered by the British government. The government is the (admittedly somewhat blurred) result of the British people's will. It is therefore an absolute disgrace for British soldiers to return home from placing their lives on the line and be attacked en masse on the streets.

    Even German soldiers in WWII, when captured by us, were considered 'victims of war' - as per the Geneva convention and as per common decency.

    This education in civilisation should be enough to persuade you. Even the radical left generally gets it. The soldiers have virtuously subsumed some of their will to a greater organisation. That of their nation state.

    Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!

    British soldiers in WWII were considered gentlemen.
    Germans going into allied captivity never realised that many Americans were not gentlemen, until it was too late.

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    British officers were officially gentlemen. Enlisted men were considered working class scum.
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  48. druid says:
    @Fidelios Automata
    To a fanatic the perfect is the enemy of the good. And to blame all Jews for the actions of the few is truly stupid. I'm a tommytard and proud of it.

    Except that the silent majority of the Jews support what’s done in their name, despites their denials! Just look at Israel’s actions and the wide support it gets in Israel among their own!

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  49. RVBlake says:
    @Tyrion 2

    In a minute Tyrion2 will be here to insist that there’s nothing to see here, and people being locked up for saying things jews don’t like being said is no reason to suppose jews have undue influence.
     
    Your definition of 'undue influence' seems to be having the same 'protection' under the law as others.

    That 'protection' may be illiberal but practically every institution in UK society supports it and every interest organisation tries to take credit.

    I know your response will be that "muh Chabloz made a satirical song and that's a first" but focussing on it being a song is proof of your disingenuousness. Regardless, she'll receive a small fine for her nonsense. A shame but hardly out of whack with what I or anyone would receive for a similar song that crossed PC taboos were it suffiiciently promoted.

    Obviously her repeated performance at the London Forum (an organisation that's main effect is to boost the self-esteem of its deluded participants by exaggerating the scale and nefariousness of those whom they imagine are their enemies) put Chabloz's head above the parapet.

    This is unfortunate for her but presenting yourselves as autistic Nazis whom everyone thinks are pathetic losers while screeching of your own importance will attracts some bullies. That's how bullies work.

    You may not like the above paragraph but is it wrong?

    I listened to Tommy Robinson's podcast with James Delingpole. He is obviously a bright, passionate and committed individual. Unfortunately it was also clear that he is a very vain man. And it seems that said vanity undid him in this latest malarkey. That said, the writer of this piece is an order of magnitude vainer and with a fraction of the justification.

    A little realism about yourselves and your ideology's standing would go a long way. But then, that would be a paradox. The entire point of your political preening is to psychologically 'benefit' by feeling good through Walter Mitty type fantasizing.

    This article is well-written and informative. Whatever vanity and lack of justification you perceive on Yorkshire’s part is obviously your faulty perception. As you once helpfully commanded me: Next time read the damned article.

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    The article claims that Tommy Robinson is not honest in his ideological positioning. The closest thing it offers to evidence is that he once linked to an irrelevant article on a blog. The main reason given is merely that the author disagrees with Robinson's platform.

    This strikes me as very vain indeed. Especially when the author represents an extreme minority opinion.
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  50. @Harbinger
    Freedoms can only work within a society of people with the same inclination.

    Take democracy. When it was created, those within that democracy had no wishes to undermine their traditions and cultures. The people within Greece were Greeks and promoted Greek culture. Democracy allowed people with differing opinions to run for political positions, but those people always had the people's and nation's best interests at heart.
    When we allow democracy within a society of people who do not have the people's best interests at heart, we have the hell that is the west today.

    Take Islam as an example. It is predicted that by 2070 there will be more Muslims in the UK than indigenous. Maybe so, maybe not, as this is completely irrelevant to democratic values. Here in the UK, the last election had something like 70% of the UK population voting. It meant that the indigenous voted for either left, right or centre and other independents. By 2040, the Muslim population will be enough to put forward an Islamic Sharia party and compete against the divided votes of the indigenous. If they win we'll see the merger of the Mosque and the state, the end of elections and goodbye common law. We will also see the floodgates open as the Islamic government pulls in more and more Muslims to enforce its Islamic way of life on the indigenous.

    "I would defend even a communist’s freedom of speech."
     
    And in doing so you set the seeds to your nation's destruction. Internationalism is the nemesis of nationalism. It is the creation of the Jew, who seeks to destroy all world peoples and their nations.
    By giving democratic values and freedom of speech to those who would do your nation harm, you are effectively handing the gun to your assassin and kneeling down in front of him. Look at the chaos that we have in the US and Canada with transgenders and other SJW's who are actively using the first amendment to DESTROY the first amendment?

    Jews, for example throughout the history of the UK, were not allowed positions of authority or influence. No testimonies, from Jews, were allowed in a court of law seeing as lying to the goyim was perfectly acceptable in their talmudic teachings. They could not be trusted.
    Now that's changed, dramatically. The judiciary is completely controlled by Jews, hence the mess we have today.

    "I dislike Tommy’s selling out, but as a matter of principle, he was arrested when covering child grooming gangs."
     
    Of course he has and with that comes his support of immigration into the UK, promotion of multiracial societies and multiculturalism and of course, rallying support for Israel. Can you not see that Tommy Robinson EPITOMIZES the disinformation agent? They'll give you 90% truth, but it's the 10% deceit that they're trying to force onto the public to accept, so if Tommy's telling the truth of 90% then the other 10% must also be the truth, in the eyes of the public who support him. Tommy's job is simple - to unite as much support for Israel as he can and bring hatred towards Islam in order that more dumb cattle go off to fight, murder and die for Israel.

    What people are failing to see is that with every hero Zion puts up for the Europeans, they take away another of our traditional and family values. They'll pile on the support from minority groups. Soon we'll see Sikhs and Hindus rallying for Tommy along with the Blacks and Orientals, followed by the LGBTQ in their degenerate parades. And what will this do? It will make the average man think "Ah look, homosexuals and immigrants aren't really all that bad, they're rallying for Tommy"

    And that is how you completely control the public, guiding them through the maze Zion created, to utterly demolish everything about them and their culture.

    For your information, the "Heretical Two", Simon Shepherd and Stephen Whittle (aka Luke O'Farrell) but predominantly Whittle, was writing about the decay of the UK and specifically about Muslim grooming gangs. They published a comic called 'Tales from the Holohoax' and were eventually arrested under hate speech laws and imprisoned in due course. The msm turned them into demons and no one supported their cause for free speech. Shami Chakrabati's Liberty, completely ignored them, preferring to save Nigerian born drug dealer, Samantha Orobator from the death sentence in Laos, for her attempt in smuggling drugs out of Laos.

    That internationalism is the creation of the Jew is true, including the Globalist Commission.

    “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations.” -a Jewish Rabbi named Jesus

    Why do gullible Goy allow this Jewish Internationalist propaganda into their houses, and read it solemnly to their children?

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  51. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @RVBlake
    You're correct. Don't sell the conservatives short, though...They also flood the country with migrants. Different goals...For the Left it's Native displacement, for the Right it's Chamber of Commerce and corporate donors.

    For the Left it’s Native displacement, for the Right it’s Chamber of Commerce and corporate donors.

    No, it’s for the globalist Money Power, which sits at the heart of London and which accounts for a huge chunk of Britain’s GDP. The goal is the destruction of the nation state (already openly declared redundant in Trudeau’s Canada), and the means to destroy the nation state is to destroy the nation. In Britain that means destruction of the indigenous population as a racial and cultural entity through a process that might well be called Canadianization, i.e., suppressed native reproduction and mass replacement immigration imposed by a PC state and police apparatus.

    And in fact that is exactly in accordance with the the theory of civilizational development, as described by Carroll Quigley (historian of the Rhodes-Milner-Rothschild-Coucil on Foreign Relations conspiracy for global governance). The imperial periphery becomes wealthier than the center by adopting the most advanced technology from the center while discarding the cultural baggage, and the wealth of the periphery (particularly in the current era the wealth of the US) leads to military domination of the center by the periphery.

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  52. Harbinger says:
    @Tyrion 2
    British soldiers are sent abroad as ordered by the British government. The government is the (admittedly somewhat blurred) result of the British people's will. It is therefore an absolute disgrace for British soldiers to return home from placing their lives on the line and be attacked en masse on the streets.

    Even German soldiers in WWII, when captured by us, were considered 'victims of war' - as per the Geneva convention and as per common decency.

    This education in civilisation should be enough to persuade you. Even the radical left generally gets it. The soldiers have virtuously subsumed some of their will to a greater organisation. That of their nation state.

    Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!

    I really don’t know why I bother at times…..
    Most people, that is most people with the slightest modicum of common sense normally understand what I’ve written first time around. You’re clearly having a problem with that.

    “British soldiers are sent abroad as ordered by the British government. The government is the (admittedly somewhat blurred) result of the British people’s will. It is therefore an absolute disgrace for British soldiers to return home from placing their lives on the line and be attacked en masse on the streets.”

    And who controls the British government? Could it, perhaps be, the City of London, that is a country within a country, completely controlled by the Crown, which is the Rothschild Banking Cabal and British Israel? If the government is the “somewhat blurred” will of the British people, then what does that say of the British people? Who precisely are the British soldiers putting their lives on the line for? Did I want the wars in Iraq, 1985, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Of course I didn’t and you’ll find that many, many people did not want them either.
    Who did then? I’ll let you figure that out for yourself.

    “Even German soldiers in WWII, when captured by us, were considered ‘victims of war’ – as per the Geneva convention and as per common decency.”

    Were they?
    Maybe this video might open your eyes somewhat? I’ll let you into a little secret shall I? The Holocaust narrative and Nuremberg Trials were created, for many reasons, one of those was incidentally to cover up allied war crimes committed during and after WW2.

    “This education in civilisation should be enough to persuade you. Even the radical left generally gets it. The soldiers have virtuously subsumed some of their will to a greater organisation. That of their nation state.”

    And again I will state: just what threat did the Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans and Syrians pose to the UK? They posed none. The armed forces personnel, through their actions HAVE COMMITTED TREASON AGAINST THE BRITISH PEOPLE by invading a foreign land, UNLAWFULLY and done nothing while immigrants have invaded their land and harmed their people. They have failed in the very purpose of being members of the armed forces, there to protect the nation!

    “Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!”

    Quite the contrary, there is only one, in this debate, showing any moral grounding whatsoever and that is most certainly NOT YOU nor the armed forces you vehemently defend.
    The definition of ‘moral’ as promoted on Dictionary.com is:

    “of, relating to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical”

    Now, tell me, where was the right in the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Where were the morals of the armed forces then?
    As I have stated already, if German soldiers, can be sentenced to death for ‘just following orders’ then what does that say for British ones, in their mass slaughter of defenders of nations they’ve invaded?

    Have you ever read Dante Dante Alighieri’s Divine Comedy?
    If you have you will be knowledgeable of the first part, Dante’s Inferno. You will know that Dante realized that the church could not absolve them of the sins that they had, themselves, created. He realized that their moral crusade to win back the Holy land was most certainly not moral.
    Simply put, Tyrion2, had any of the British armed forces any moral compass, whatsoever, they would have rather faced a court-martial than invade a land and murder people who posed their nation and themselves, no threat whatsoever. The threat ironically created was by themselves.
    The soldiers have done the murdering, not the politicians who told them to. If there is a judgement after life, then most certainly those who murdered will face retribution for murder, although the politicians will for deceit.

    It’s high time armed forces personnel started to question their actions and more so the commands of their superiors. Who after all is the bigger fool – the fool or the fool that follows?

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    Clearly the concept of service is beyond you. That is fine if you are simply looking to be an ethical individual consumer but it is a huge problem if you ever want any sort of collective action. Ergo, it is a huge problem for any sort of nationalist. Or indeed a person who wishes to live in a non-autistic and non-atomised fashion. It is not a high barrier to jump!

    The issue is that collective action, as opposed to a pop culture style team of wise-cracking superheros, requires each member to subsume their independent choices, to a large degree, to whatever process of decision-making their collective abides by.

    This doesn't mean that you can't advocate otherwise. I can promise you that plenty in the military disagree with adventurism but it is a necessity for civilisation that they respect the process nonetheless. It also shows intellectual humility and ethos.

    It is too funny that I need to explain this to a self-styled real nationalist.
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  53. @Harbinger
    Been stating for ages now that Tommy Robinson is controlled opposition along with the rest of the 'alt right' Youtuber sensations to spring up of late - Paul Joseph Watson (and Alex Jones obviously), Jordan Peterson, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Ruben, Stephen Crowder, Gavin McInnes, Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone, Faith Goldy, Milo Yiannopolous, Douglas Murray (although not a YouTuber).....

    The list goes on and on.

    I am now beginning to realize what's the point in writing anymore when people are so easily coerced into supporting Israel and not bother cutting through the BS and realize that the Jew is evil in this world, controlling both the left and the right narrative? No matter what evidence you give, from history to present day, until they reclaim back the slurs of nazi and racist, nothing will stop the utter destruction of Europe and the west.

    They are simply far to stupid to realize that with every new 'hero' that is put up for them to follow, they sacrifice more of their traditional values. Tommy Robinson and all the shills mentioned are pro immigration, pro multiculturalism, pro homosexuality, pro multiracial societies but in order to get the support of the moronic right, they oppose feminism and transgenders.

    Tommy Robinson speaks of how he went to the BNP with two of his black mates and the BNP told him that their party was for the preservation of the white peoples of the UK and that his friends weren't welcome. Of course he said that he told them all to get lost and stormed out.

    It sickens me, because quite frankly I don't care what happens to the sellout Robinson. I have a strong suspicion that he will probably be murdered in prison BY A MUSLIM which will set off even more hatred for Muslims as is the plan. He's a patsy, like Lee Harvey Oswald, most certainly promised that he'll be looked after no matter how rough the ride gets, failing to realize that his execution had already been planned, long before he signed his soul to Zion. There are many Jack Rubys waiting in prison for him.

    I have continually, on many forums tried to point out to nationalists in the UK that you are either white and British or you are not British. I have pointed out that racial origin defines one's nationality and that when you grant citizenship to those outside of it, you destroy the concept of nation. People just don't get it. They fail to see that after WW2, when the Race Acts came in and West Indians were granted citizenship in the UK, the nations they were granted nationality of INSTANTLY ended.
    If all the apples wanted to become bananas, what's the point in having an apple and banana definition anymore?

    I'm beginning to realize that people deserve the society they live within. If they are not prepared to educate themselves and see that Jewry has been a cancer on this earth, since its creation and that they are seeking for the ultimate genocide of white peoples and their cultures, then quite frankly, they'll deserve that when it happens. They have only themselves to blame as the truth is and always has been out there.

    Monoculture nations of Japan, S. Korea, the PRC are all quite strong and will remain so for as long as anyone can estimate. Of course, their high average IQ helps, compared to low IQ monocultures of Africa, etc. Even the low IQ monocultures seem better than multi-culti diverse “nations”.

    Multi-culti “nations” of ___________ (fill in the blank) are all dysfunctional, drowning in debt, scarred by crime and violence, spiraling ever worse by the month. Their tribalized politics makes reform impossible. Their main hope is a strong man from their historic ethno-core to become a benevolent dictator and restore their core.

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  54. hyperbola says:
    @Tyrion 2
    British soldiers are sent abroad as ordered by the British government. The government is the (admittedly somewhat blurred) result of the British people's will. It is therefore an absolute disgrace for British soldiers to return home from placing their lives on the line and be attacked en masse on the streets.

    Even German soldiers in WWII, when captured by us, were considered 'victims of war' - as per the Geneva convention and as per common decency.

    This education in civilisation should be enough to persuade you. Even the radical left generally gets it. The soldiers have virtuously subsumed some of their will to a greater organisation. That of their nation state.

    Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!

    Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!

    Sounds like you belong to the “chosen people” class that likes to kill plebes. Here is a recent article in the American context that is appropriate for you.

    How to Honor Memorial Day

    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/27/how-to-honor-memorial-day-2/

    How best to show respect for the U.S. troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and for their families on Memorial Day? Simple: Avoid euphemisms like “the fallen” and expose the lies about what a great idea it was to start those wars in the first place and then to “surge” tens of thousands of more troops into those fools’ errands.

    First, let’s be clear on at least this much: the 4,500 U.S. troops killed in Iraq so far and the 2,350 killed in Afghanistan [by May 2015] did not “fall.” They were wasted on no-win battlefields by politicians and generals cheered on by neocon pundits and mainstream “journalists” almost none of whom gave a rat’s patootie about the real-life-and-death troops. They were throwaway soldiers.

    And, as for the “successful surges,” they were just P.R. devices to buy some “decent intervals” for the architects of these wars and their boosters to get space between themselves and the disastrous endings while pretending that those defeats were really “victories squandered” all at the “acceptable” price of about 1,000 dead U.S. soldiers each and many times that in dead Iraqis and Afghans.

    Memorial Day should be a time for honesty about what enabled the killing and maiming of so many U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama and the senior military brass simply took full advantage of a poverty draft that gives upper-class sons and daughters the equivalent of exemptions, vaccinating them against the disease of war…..

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    Apart from the idiot ethnic insinuation at the beginning, I basically agree with everything you wrote. I just recognise that uniformed soldiers, as per the Geneva Convention, are "victims of war" and it is a disgrace that they were attacked on the streets of their hometown upon returning.
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  55. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Harbinger
    I really don't know why I bother at times.....
    Most people, that is most people with the slightest modicum of common sense normally understand what I've written first time around. You're clearly having a problem with that.

    "British soldiers are sent abroad as ordered by the British government. The government is the (admittedly somewhat blurred) result of the British people’s will. It is therefore an absolute disgrace for British soldiers to return home from placing their lives on the line and be attacked en masse on the streets."
     
    And who controls the British government? Could it, perhaps be, the City of London, that is a country within a country, completely controlled by the Crown, which is the Rothschild Banking Cabal and British Israel? If the government is the "somewhat blurred" will of the British people, then what does that say of the British people? Who precisely are the British soldiers putting their lives on the line for? Did I want the wars in Iraq, 1985, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Of course I didn't and you'll find that many, many people did not want them either.
    Who did then? I'll let you figure that out for yourself.

    "Even German soldiers in WWII, when captured by us, were considered ‘victims of war’ – as per the Geneva convention and as per common decency."
     
    Were they?
    Maybe this video might open your eyes somewhat? I'll let you into a little secret shall I? The Holocaust narrative and Nuremberg Trials were created, for many reasons, one of those was incidentally to cover up allied war crimes committed during and after WW2.

    "This education in civilisation should be enough to persuade you. Even the radical left generally gets it. The soldiers have virtuously subsumed some of their will to a greater organisation. That of their nation state."
     
    And again I will state: just what threat did the Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans and Syrians pose to the UK? They posed none. The armed forces personnel, through their actions HAVE COMMITTED TREASON AGAINST THE BRITISH PEOPLE by invading a foreign land, UNLAWFULLY and done nothing while immigrants have invaded their land and harmed their people. They have failed in the very purpose of being members of the armed forces, there to protect the nation!

    "Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!"
     
    Quite the contrary, there is only one, in this debate, showing any moral grounding whatsoever and that is most certainly NOT YOU nor the armed forces you vehemently defend.
    The definition of 'moral' as promoted on Dictionary.com is:

    "of, relating to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical"
     
    Now, tell me, where was the right in the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria? Where were the morals of the armed forces then?
    As I have stated already, if German soldiers, can be sentenced to death for 'just following orders' then what does that say for British ones, in their mass slaughter of defenders of nations they've invaded?

    Have you ever read Dante Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy?
    If you have you will be knowledgeable of the first part, Dante's Inferno. You will know that Dante realized that the church could not absolve them of the sins that they had, themselves, created. He realized that their moral crusade to win back the Holy land was most certainly not moral.
    Simply put, Tyrion2, had any of the British armed forces any moral compass, whatsoever, they would have rather faced a court-martial than invade a land and murder people who posed their nation and themselves, no threat whatsoever. The threat ironically created was by themselves.
    The soldiers have done the murdering, not the politicians who told them to. If there is a judgement after life, then most certainly those who murdered will face retribution for murder, although the politicians will for deceit.

    It's high time armed forces personnel started to question their actions and more so the commands of their superiors. Who after all is the bigger fool - the fool or the fool that follows?

    Clearly the concept of service is beyond you. That is fine if you are simply looking to be an ethical individual consumer but it is a huge problem if you ever want any sort of collective action. Ergo, it is a huge problem for any sort of nationalist. Or indeed a person who wishes to live in a non-autistic and non-atomised fashion. It is not a high barrier to jump!

    The issue is that collective action, as opposed to a pop culture style team of wise-cracking superheros, requires each member to subsume their independent choices, to a large degree, to whatever process of decision-making their collective abides by.

    This doesn’t mean that you can’t advocate otherwise. I can promise you that plenty in the military disagree with adventurism but it is a necessity for civilisation that they respect the process nonetheless. It also shows intellectual humility and ethos.

    It is too funny that I need to explain this to a self-styled real nationalist.

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    Service?

    For the benefit of what?

    Collective action and the dictates of the collective?

    No thanks, I'll pass.
    , @Harbinger

    "Clearly the concept of service is beyond you."
     
    Quite the contrary, I know all about it. Having grown up on a strict regime of sports and martial arts, I spent that time also as an Army Cadet while in school. Seven years to be precise and ending up representing my country, in the Cadet shooting competitions, as a Marksman first class. I then spent a brief time training in the Royal Marine Reserves. I was thankful to my elder brother who managed to persuade me not to go into the Royal Marines, as I was intent on doing a Potential Officer's course, when I was around 20. I would certainly have succeeded.

    I got older and wiser. I understood how older people manipulate the young, remove their conscience and turn them into killing machines, young men, psychologically destroyed, all so that bankers can make more money, blood money. And what happens to the psychologically young men? Well, they have very hard time fitting in in Civvy street. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is all the rage now, the horrors as it was known in WW1.

    Anyway, I digress.... The first armed forces were created for the sole purpose of invasion NOT defense. Higher ranking authority and strict discipline was there to break the moral code of the men within. They did not want thinking men, capable of making rational decisions, on what is right and wrong. Good God no. They wanted men, to control, to break and to turn into machines, who knew that the top brass did the thinking and they did the killing. In fact, one could say that the armed forces run on a parallel with freemasonry - "A good freemason doesn't ask why, when given a command. He just does it."

    Again you ignore my Dante example within my last reply, failing to see that Dante very well knew that he had killed, not in the name of God. He realized that some bishop could not absolve him of his sins. You fail to see that this very much expresses any man who kills under the orders of another. Thou Shalt Not Kill is there for a reason and there is a HUGE difference in killing to defend your home and your family to invading a foreign nation, murdering its people all in the name of some false political ideology called democracy, nothing more than the first steps on the ladder to communism and tyranny.

    It is pointless debating with you Tyrion. You are unable to refute anything I have put to you. You blindly stand by the ridiculous concept of military adventurism is necessary for civilization. This stupidity is nothing more than building blocks for tyranny, banker tyranny, Jewish banker tyranny, for quite simply, were there no Jews, in positions of power, authority and influence within the west, we'd all be getting on incredibly well with our neighbours, north, east, west and south and there would be no need to bomb the crap out of Islam, all for the sake of Zionism.

    This is my last reply to you. If you haven't got it by now, you never will.
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  56. Peter Frost says: • Website

    Tommy Robinson is doing activism in the real world under his own name. Very few people are doing that, especially in the UK. Could he be doing better? Undoubtedly. Is that a reason for not supporting him? No. We have to play with the cards we’re dealt. In any case, some of the commenters here would lose even if they had a winning hand.

    The same point applies to The Rebel Media. Do I like all of the stuff they put out? No, but I like a lot of it, and that’s much more than what I can say for the traditional media or for Canadian society in general. When I look at a list of Rebel Media videos, I feel like I have a choice. I don’t get that feeling when I go into a Canadian voting booth.

    Tommy Robinson, like The Rebel Media, is a net plus … in a world where the average person, out of apathy, indoctrination, or cowardice, is a net minus.

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    Actually, 'Tommy Robinson' has used various pseudonyms in his political career. His real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, but this is hardly a 'man of the people' handle...
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  57. DFH says:
    @Harbinger
    Freedoms can only work within a society of people with the same inclination.

    Take democracy. When it was created, those within that democracy had no wishes to undermine their traditions and cultures. The people within Greece were Greeks and promoted Greek culture. Democracy allowed people with differing opinions to run for political positions, but those people always had the people's and nation's best interests at heart.
    When we allow democracy within a society of people who do not have the people's best interests at heart, we have the hell that is the west today.

    Take Islam as an example. It is predicted that by 2070 there will be more Muslims in the UK than indigenous. Maybe so, maybe not, as this is completely irrelevant to democratic values. Here in the UK, the last election had something like 70% of the UK population voting. It meant that the indigenous voted for either left, right or centre and other independents. By 2040, the Muslim population will be enough to put forward an Islamic Sharia party and compete against the divided votes of the indigenous. If they win we'll see the merger of the Mosque and the state, the end of elections and goodbye common law. We will also see the floodgates open as the Islamic government pulls in more and more Muslims to enforce its Islamic way of life on the indigenous.

    "I would defend even a communist’s freedom of speech."
     
    And in doing so you set the seeds to your nation's destruction. Internationalism is the nemesis of nationalism. It is the creation of the Jew, who seeks to destroy all world peoples and their nations.
    By giving democratic values and freedom of speech to those who would do your nation harm, you are effectively handing the gun to your assassin and kneeling down in front of him. Look at the chaos that we have in the US and Canada with transgenders and other SJW's who are actively using the first amendment to DESTROY the first amendment?

    Jews, for example throughout the history of the UK, were not allowed positions of authority or influence. No testimonies, from Jews, were allowed in a court of law seeing as lying to the goyim was perfectly acceptable in their talmudic teachings. They could not be trusted.
    Now that's changed, dramatically. The judiciary is completely controlled by Jews, hence the mess we have today.

    "I dislike Tommy’s selling out, but as a matter of principle, he was arrested when covering child grooming gangs."
     
    Of course he has and with that comes his support of immigration into the UK, promotion of multiracial societies and multiculturalism and of course, rallying support for Israel. Can you not see that Tommy Robinson EPITOMIZES the disinformation agent? They'll give you 90% truth, but it's the 10% deceit that they're trying to force onto the public to accept, so if Tommy's telling the truth of 90% then the other 10% must also be the truth, in the eyes of the public who support him. Tommy's job is simple - to unite as much support for Israel as he can and bring hatred towards Islam in order that more dumb cattle go off to fight, murder and die for Israel.

    What people are failing to see is that with every hero Zion puts up for the Europeans, they take away another of our traditional and family values. They'll pile on the support from minority groups. Soon we'll see Sikhs and Hindus rallying for Tommy along with the Blacks and Orientals, followed by the LGBTQ in their degenerate parades. And what will this do? It will make the average man think "Ah look, homosexuals and immigrants aren't really all that bad, they're rallying for Tommy"

    And that is how you completely control the public, guiding them through the maze Zion created, to utterly demolish everything about them and their culture.

    For your information, the "Heretical Two", Simon Shepherd and Stephen Whittle (aka Luke O'Farrell) but predominantly Whittle, was writing about the decay of the UK and specifically about Muslim grooming gangs. They published a comic called 'Tales from the Holohoax' and were eventually arrested under hate speech laws and imprisoned in due course. The msm turned them into demons and no one supported their cause for free speech. Shami Chakrabati's Liberty, completely ignored them, preferring to save Nigerian born drug dealer, Samantha Orobator from the death sentence in Laos, for her attempt in smuggling drugs out of Laos.

    I will never understand why he decided to give a copy of his article about Breivik to a librarian

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  58. Tyrion 2 says:
    @hyperbola

    Nonetheless, if common decency cannot overcome your obvious lack of moral grounding, please imagine how your point looks to the military. And ex-military. And their families. And their friends. You claim to be a real nationalist but you also strive to come across as if you hate your co-nationals. Bizarre. Oh, and good luck with that, lol!
     
    Sounds like you belong to the "chosen people" class that likes to kill plebes. Here is a recent article in the American context that is appropriate for you.

    How to Honor Memorial Day
    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/27/how-to-honor-memorial-day-2/
    How best to show respect for the U.S. troops killed in Iraq and Afghanistan and for their families on Memorial Day? Simple: Avoid euphemisms like “the fallen” and expose the lies about what a great idea it was to start those wars in the first place and then to “surge” tens of thousands of more troops into those fools’ errands.

    First, let’s be clear on at least this much: the 4,500 U.S. troops killed in Iraq so far and the 2,350 killed in Afghanistan [by May 2015] did not “fall.” They were wasted on no-win battlefields by politicians and generals cheered on by neocon pundits and mainstream “journalists” almost none of whom gave a rat’s patootie about the real-life-and-death troops. They were throwaway soldiers.

    And, as for the “successful surges,” they were just P.R. devices to buy some “decent intervals” for the architects of these wars and their boosters to get space between themselves and the disastrous endings while pretending that those defeats were really “victories squandered” all at the “acceptable” price of about 1,000 dead U.S. soldiers each and many times that in dead Iraqis and Afghans.

    Memorial Day should be a time for honesty about what enabled the killing and maiming of so many U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama and the senior military brass simply took full advantage of a poverty draft that gives upper-class sons and daughters the equivalent of exemptions, vaccinating them against the disease of war.....

    Apart from the idiot ethnic insinuation at the beginning, I basically agree with everything you wrote. I just recognise that uniformed soldiers, as per the Geneva Convention, are “victims of war” and it is a disgrace that they were attacked on the streets of their hometown upon returning.

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  59. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Randal

    Um..pot…kettle…

    Do you not see how my response was to your post and this article which did precisely what you accuse me of?
     
    LOL! I wondered if you'd try that one.

    No, of course your response, and your choice to respond here to the harassment of Turner and Chabloz for expressing opinions by attacking th victims rather than the perpetrators wasn't in any way directed at any real or supposed equivalent action by me - it was, as you made clear, a response to my comment about excess jewish influence being behind the aforementioned harassment.

    As to the point you are trying to score, no there is no equivalence here. My comment on the freedom of speech aspect was precisely to distinguish what Robinson did (make a deliberately provocative protest breaching a prior court order in the hope of getting what he got for promotional purposes) from what Turner and Chabloz were harassed for - expressing political opinions.

    As a separate issue I do attack Robinson - for himself choosing to aggressively attack conservative/nationalist dissenters for failing to toe the establishment pc lines.

    The real explanation is that those powerful people are cruel and self-indulgent and enjoy causing trouble for these self-important losers and know that there’ll be no popular backlash to their amusement…because no-one cares about their incredibly unlikeable victims.

    Of course your point above is a prime example of the self-aggrandising delusional thinking that makes such groups so unlikeable.
     
    So my position is that organised lobby groups going to considerable effort to change laws and influence their application represents motivated political action. Your response is to claim that, no, it's just the cruel whims of a few nasty individuals.

    I think it can be safely left hanging there at that.

    I wasn’t justifying it. I was merely saying that it is ordinary. Which it is. You’re being disingenuous again.
     
    Obviously, as I pointed out, it isn't remotely "ordinary", and equally obviously trying to claim something is "ordinary" in the way you did is precisely trying to normalise and therefore defend it. In other words, in ordinary parlance, to justify it.

    You still haven't given a single example of the use of these "normal" protections "available to everyone" being applied to prosecute someone for saying nasty things about whites or Christians, or about a despised and powerless minority such as white nationalists or Nazis, by the way. Surely it must be easy to raise examples of something so normal and commonplace?

    Every point you made is a misrepresentation of what I wrote. I no longer imagine it is by mistake. You’ve now made up quotes in quote marks from me on multiple occasions. If you’re not a troll then prove it by stopping grossly mischaracterising what I’ve written. Otherwise, I’m talking with a child.

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    You’ve now made up quotes in quote marks from me on multiple occasions.
     
    Certainly I have used equivalents because, frankly, I can't be bothered to go back and copy the exact words. In not one case has there been any substantive misrepresentation of your position.

    stopping grossly mischaracterising what I’ve written
     
    I haven't "grossly mischaracterised" anything you've written, just pointed out your repeated errors. If you don't like it, start viewing the world honestly instead of through your group loyalty distorting glasses and you'll find you don't get caught out so often.
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  60. Tyrion 2 says:
    @RVBlake
    This article is well-written and informative. Whatever vanity and lack of justification you perceive on Yorkshire's part is obviously your faulty perception. As you once helpfully commanded me: Next time read the damned article.

    The article claims that Tommy Robinson is not honest in his ideological positioning. The closest thing it offers to evidence is that he once linked to an irrelevant article on a blog. The main reason given is merely that the author disagrees with Robinson’s platform.

    This strikes me as very vain indeed. Especially when the author represents an extreme minority opinion.

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  61. renfro says:
    @Johnny Smoggins
    So basically Robinson is just another Pam Geller.

    Jews like to get their fingers in anything first to make sure that they can control the direction it goes in. We see this with both Rebel Media and Breitbart. Make an "alt right" forum for the goyim to vent about Moslems on while ensuring that the blame doesn't go too far in connecting the dots of who really supports mass immigration and diversity in the west and even worse, why.

    And let's be honest, if it weren't for Moslem support of the Palestinians, Jews would be just fine with the rape gangs, intrusive body pat downs at the airport, bombings and all the other blessings Islamic immigration has brought to the west.

    Like Stefan Molyneux, Tommy Robinson is useful for red pilling normies but that's about it.

    And let’s be honest, if it weren’t for Moslem support of the Palestinians, Jews would be just fine with the rape gangs, intrusive body pat downs at the airport, bombings and all the other blessings Islamic immigration has brought to the west

    Exactly. Robinson is just another Pam Geller with the Muslims are Coming! .

    The sexual perversions within Jewish groups are rampant —but we don’t see reporters becoming activist over it and ranting about Jew rapist and pedophiles. There’s a woman in Israel right now who fled there to escape US court for child molestation.
    Their sex crimes are probably 10xs more than what we hear about because the Rabbis wont let them be reported to the outsider police…..and unfortunately most of them involve sexual abuse of children.

    Sexual abuse cases in Brooklyn’s Haredi community – Wikipedia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/…/Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Brooklyn%27s_Haredi_communit…

    The response of the Haredi Jewish community in Brooklyn, New York City, to allegations of sexual abuse against its spiritual leaders has drawn scrutiny. When teachers, rabbis, and other leaders have been accused of sexual abuse, authorities in

    Queens teacher removed from yeshiva post amid child molestation …
    http://www.nydailynews.com/…/queens-teacher-removed-yeshiva-post-child-molestation-ra…;
    Feb 24, 2018 – Stanley Kleinman, a Jewish studies teacher at Yeshiva Darchei Torah in … in Far Rockaway and is better known as Rabbi Yisroel Kleinman.

    Child sex abuse royal commission: Jewish victims ‘shunned after …
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-23/jewish-leaders-thought-it-was-a…/8380574
    Mar 22, 2017 – Related Story: Royal commission hears Jewish family’s sex abuse … a rabbi, have been convicted of multiple offences of sexual abuse at …

    Rabbis’ absolute power: how sex abuse tore apart Australia’s …

    https://www.theguardian.com/…/rabbis-absolute-power-how-sex-abuse-tore-apart-aust…

    Feb 19, 2015 – Orthodox Judaism has never been exposed to such scrutiny. From a Melbourne courtroom, the torment of the Chabad rabbis was streamed live …

    Orthodox Jews Shun Their Own for Reporting Child Sexual Abuse
    https://www.nytimes.com/…/ultra-orthodox-jews-shun-their-own-for-reporting-child-sex…May 9, 2012 – In confronting Jewish laws that forbid airing allegations against fellow … While some ultra-Orthodox rabbis now argue that a child molester …

    Child Abuse Allegations Plague the Hasidic Community – Newsweek
    http://www.newsweek.com/…/child-abuse-allegations-hasidic-ultraorthodox-jewish-commun…;
    Mar 3, 2016 – Does the Jewish Orthodox school system muzzle survivors of child abuse … Ozer Simon, now in his 40s, says he was molested by a rabbi

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  62. @Tyrion 2
    Clearly the concept of service is beyond you. That is fine if you are simply looking to be an ethical individual consumer but it is a huge problem if you ever want any sort of collective action. Ergo, it is a huge problem for any sort of nationalist. Or indeed a person who wishes to live in a non-autistic and non-atomised fashion. It is not a high barrier to jump!

    The issue is that collective action, as opposed to a pop culture style team of wise-cracking superheros, requires each member to subsume their independent choices, to a large degree, to whatever process of decision-making their collective abides by.

    This doesn't mean that you can't advocate otherwise. I can promise you that plenty in the military disagree with adventurism but it is a necessity for civilisation that they respect the process nonetheless. It also shows intellectual humility and ethos.

    It is too funny that I need to explain this to a self-styled real nationalist.

    Service?

    For the benefit of what?

    Collective action and the dictates of the collective?

    No thanks, I’ll pass.

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    When you go to the cinema with a large group of friends do you all just see individual movies in separate rooms?
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  63. Art says:
    @FKA Max
    Great article!

    Jordan Peterson’s (indirect) connection to the Jewish Defense League (which I believe is a Mossad front group) through his relationship with Jewish-Canadian, neocon extraordinaire Ezra Levant: https://www.unz.com/isteve/forward-is-jordan-peterson-enabling-jew-hatred/#comment-2328862

    ”But my own suspicion is that the Israeli Mossad had a hand in the thing,” he said, referring to the Israeli secret service. ”They probably used J.D.L. local people who did the technical work on it, local terrorists.” – https://www.nytimes.com/1985/11/09/us/fbi-says-jewish-defense-league-may-have-planted-fatal-bombs.html

     

    - http://www.unz.com/article/a-reply-to-jordan-peterson/#comment-2330137

    Jordan Peterson’s (indirect) connection to the Jewish Defense League (which I believe is a Mossad front group) through his relationship with Jewish-Canadian, neocon extraordinaire Ezra Levant:

    Clearly Jordan Peterson is allowed to do his anti-feminist thing because he is pro Jew.

    The question is how can an intellectually honest man be pro Jew/Israel? Knowing about AIPAC, ADL, IDF, and Mossad – how can anyone support Jews and at the same time claim intellectual rectitude?

    Jew feminism is the mother of the Western feminism that Peterson opposes. The hate element of feminism, flows from Jew male unyielding top-down poor treatment of Jew women. In Jew culture, male/female relationships are contentious. Jew men are never faithful to Jew wives. Jew women’s hate for male Jew control over them, has been projected onto all males.

    This negative hateful cultural situation is not hard to see. Someone of Peterson’s intellect must realize this. Yet he says nothing, because if he did, he would be shut up by Jew hegemony over Western culture.

    Jew hegemony over our culture is the real problem – feminism is just part of it.

    Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope — Love Idealism — Art

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    I agree Art. And I fail to see how so many so called "Patriots" that so many dupes consider a true usa patriot such as Hannity, Rush, Beck, Et Al too many names to list here. Can be truly worried or concerned with j0b loss if they ever finally speak out truth regarding jews and Israel.

    I mean when I read how Hannity makes something like $20 million per year. Rush made $15 million per year his first 15 yrs....Then Rush's new 10 year contract is for $40 Million per year for a 3 hr per day 5 day week Radio talk show where rush decides what to talk on!

    Or this new guy Peterson, I read on a reply here other day that he makes about $50 Grand per month from his yutube videos plus a lot more thru donations and book sales..

    Okay that's great, earn as much as can right....So...Just How much must one person earn and accumulate before a loss of job jewish threat is meaningless eh?

    I read Ann Coulter IIRC has so far $150 Million in her bank account.....Beck= same likely.

    So again How much is enough before one can actually become a real 100% truth teller and damn any jew threats etc eh?

    No, it was/is never ever about truth or honesty with such clowns...It is ALL about the $$$$ and more is always their main desire...No other answer fits.

    I have fully lost all respect for and refuse to read or listen to any such persons unless they speak truth and that includes true facts on jews and Israel like we here do state as factual and truthful.

    And when the SHTF as I am 99.9% certain it shall, and likely in our time before too much longer, I will never ever stand by those type persons side or share a fox hole with such types.

    I rather sit in a dirty fox hole when the day arrives that we have no other options left, with a totally penny less true patriot that is awake and does speak truth regardless what jews or so called eliets etc say period.


    I view all these fraud phonies as no more than the "Luke Warm" souls mentioned biblically in first few chapters of Rev book....."And those who are Luke Warm I shall Spew from My mouth!"


    Right, and since there are just Two other groups besides luke warmers, that being the awake saved and the lost, I assume when spat out luke warm folks shall join with the lost losers. And none are more lost than the stiff necked and stubborn jews.
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  64. KenH says:

    were that he would receive a harsh sentence if he attempted to prejudice another ongoing trial by reporting on it in such a way that prejudiced the jury.

    I don’t see how that’s possible if the jury is sequestered and unable to watch television coverage of the trial or youtube videos, but I don’t know how the system works in the U.K. Maybe the jurors in this trial go home every night and are free to watch coverage.

    Valid criticisms of Tommy’s checkered history and relationship with Jewish groups notwithstanding, I’m willing to bet that if neo-Nazi rape gangs were plaguing Britain and pressing young Paki Muslim and African girls into sexual service against their will that U.K. authorities wouldn’t be so vigilant about arresting and prosecuting Muslims and SJW Brits who attempted to film the trial while calling attention to the racial profile and far right ideological bent of the neo-Nazi perps.

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  65. Randal says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Every point you made is a misrepresentation of what I wrote. I no longer imagine it is by mistake. You've now made up quotes in quote marks from me on multiple occasions. If you're not a troll then prove it by stopping grossly mischaracterising what I've written. Otherwise, I'm talking with a child.

    You’ve now made up quotes in quote marks from me on multiple occasions.

    Certainly I have used equivalents because, frankly, I can’t be bothered to go back and copy the exact words. In not one case has there been any substantive misrepresentation of your position.

    stopping grossly mischaracterising what I’ve written

    I haven’t “grossly mischaracterised” anything you’ve written, just pointed out your repeated errors. If you don’t like it, start viewing the world honestly instead of through your group loyalty distorting glasses and you’ll find you don’t get caught out so often.

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  66. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Simon in London
    There was no jury.

    So the restraining orders are about not influencing potential jurors by covering the preliminary hearings of immigrant Muslim gang rapists/ sex slavers of underage girls.

    I’m surprised the misogynist 90 year old male virgins on this site aren’t jumping in to defend the Muslim paki rapists as they defend Weinstein and the rest.

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  67. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @DFH
    Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jewish interests. Ironically Revelations, which is of course where the imagery for the poem comes from, is very anti-Jewish. The King of Israel is God because Israel means the Church.

    Building Jerusalem in England seems pretty clear to me. But then I’m no bible scholar who can find 15 different interpretations of every word.

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    Building Jerusalem in England seems pretty clear to me
     
    Are you implying the poem is literally about the city of Jerusalem?
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  68. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    And let’s be honest, if it weren’t for Moslem support of the Palestinians, Jews would be just fine with the rape gangs, intrusive body pat downs at the airport, bombings and all the other blessings Islamic immigration has brought to the west
     
    Exactly. Robinson is just another Pam Geller with the Muslims are Coming! .

    The sexual perversions within Jewish groups are rampant ---but we don't see reporters becoming activist over it and ranting about Jew rapist and pedophiles. There's a woman in Israel right now who fled there to escape US court for child molestation.
    Their sex crimes are probably 10xs more than what we hear about because the Rabbis wont let them be reported to the outsider police.....and unfortunately most of them involve sexual abuse of children.


    Sexual abuse cases in Brooklyn's Haredi community - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Sexual_abuse_cases_in_Brooklyn%27s_Haredi_communit...
    The response of the Haredi Jewish community in Brooklyn, New York City, to allegations of sexual abuse against its spiritual leaders has drawn scrutiny. When teachers, rabbis, and other leaders have been accused of sexual abuse, authorities in

    Queens teacher removed from yeshiva post amid child molestation ...
    www.nydailynews.com/.../queens-teacher-removed-yeshiva-post-child-molestation-ra...
    Feb 24, 2018 - Stanley Kleinman, a Jewish studies teacher at Yeshiva Darchei Torah in ... in Far Rockaway and is better known as Rabbi Yisroel Kleinman.

    Child sex abuse royal commission: Jewish victims 'shunned after ...
    www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-23/jewish-leaders-thought-it-was-a.../8380574
    Mar 22, 2017 - Related Story: Royal commission hears Jewish family's sex abuse ... a rabbi, have been convicted of multiple offences of sexual abuse at ...

    Rabbis' absolute power: how sex abuse tore apart Australia's ...
    https://www.theguardian.com/.../rabbis-absolute-power-how-sex-abuse-tore-apart-aust...
    Feb 19, 2015 - Orthodox Judaism has never been exposed to such scrutiny. From a Melbourne courtroom, the torment of the Chabad rabbis was streamed live ...

    Orthodox Jews Shun Their Own for Reporting Child Sexual Abuse
    https://www.nytimes.com/.../ultra-orthodox-jews-shun-their-own-for-reporting-child-sex...May 9, 2012 - In confronting Jewish laws that forbid airing allegations against fellow ... While some ultra-Orthodox rabbis now argue that a child molester ...

    Child Abuse Allegations Plague the Hasidic Community - Newsweek
    www.newsweek.com/.../child-abuse-allegations-hasidic-ultraorthodox-jewish-commun...
    Mar 3, 2016 - Does the Jewish Orthodox school system muzzle survivors of child abuse ... Ozer Simon, now in his 40s, says he was molested by a rabbi

    Any religion that forbids married couples from having sex 2 weeks of every month is bound to have problems as the sexually frustrated men look elsewhere.

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  69. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @jilles dykstra
    British soldiers in WWII were considered gentlemen.
    Germans going into allied captivity never realised that many Americans were not gentlemen, until it was too late.

    British officers were officially gentlemen. Enlisted men were considered working class scum.

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  70. anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:

    Another of those racist-fodder essays, in part about the bogey of “Muslim child rapist” gangs.

    In that regard, I see two possibilities here;

    1. Given the evil degeneracy and perfidiousness of Eurapean racists & Islamophobes, it is entirely possible that the so-called child rapist grooming gangs, are themselves groomed by those racist degenerates. Obviously to paint Islam and Muslims in a very bad light, and to also put an end to immigration through mass revulsion. A win-win in every way for them. If you think about it, this is the most likely scenario.

    2. Evil human trash are everywhere (just look at Nutenyahoo, Trump, Modi, Blair, {fill in your favourite head-chopper’s name here}, etc.), so surely you will find many of them with Muslim names too. You should remember that these “muslim-rapist” trash invited themselves in because they got invaded out (physically and/or economically), by white evil. Cause and effect. The white race has enjoyed the spoils of raping and pillaging the world for far too long. Blowback is but natural, and can be such a bitch. Yeah?

    As long as the white pagan continues his (her too!) evil mischief in Islamic lands, continues to allow Juden evil there (but, this evil has metastasised so much, that there appears little hope left)… I say, may your nations get swamped more and more, by the unwanted from everywhere. I call that self-”genocide,” and from the point of view of the oppressed, well deserved too.

    On a related note, I have always wondered why the dispossessed Palestinians didn’t force their way into Eurape (I mean in the millions). After all, the white degenerate was responsible for dispossessing them, so they take part of the degenerate’s home. It would have been most fair that way, and thus will remain one of their biggest mistakes.

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  71. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Liberty Mike
    Service?

    For the benefit of what?

    Collective action and the dictates of the collective?

    No thanks, I'll pass.

    When you go to the cinema with a large group of friends do you all just see individual movies in separate rooms?

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    It depends upon the movie.
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  72. DFH says:
    @Anon
    Building Jerusalem in England seems pretty clear to me. But then I’m no bible scholar who can find 15 different interpretations of every word.

    Building Jerusalem in England seems pretty clear to me

    Are you implying the poem is literally about the city of Jerusalem?

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  73. Is Tommy Robinson a stooge whore for nation-wrecking Jews? Yes, but he might inadvertently be of help in delegitimizing and removing the evil English ruling class from power.

    There is a WASP/JEW ruling class that runs the American Empire. It is using mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the United States.

    There is an English/Jew ruling class that runs England. It is using mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy the English ancestral core of England.

    I wrote this on May 26, 2018:

    Tommy Robinson seems like a stooge for the Jews in Britain. He goes on and on about the Muslims but he never talks about the role Jews in England have played in pushing nation-wrecking mass immigration.

    Having said that, Tommy Robinson is a brave man who deserves respect for his public challenge to the English ruling class on multiculturalism, Islamization and mass immigration. Tommy Robinson’s work to describe what damage mass immigration has done to his hometown of Luton is very good, too.

    I guess the English/Jew ruling class of England is using Tommy Robinson as a stooge. I still say his agitations could be of some use.

    I will say that the English/Jew ruling class of England is most vulnerable on monetary policy and debt. The Bank of England has used mass immigration to keep wages low and housing costs high. Young English people should be told this.

    Mass immigration suppresses the wage inflation that would ordinarily occur during bouts of monetary extremism, that is why the BoE and the English/Jew ruling class supports mass immigration.

    Mass immigration increases demand for housing, thereby increasing housing costs. Low interest rates cause the price of housing to be bid up.

    Lastly, the young should be told that all government debt in England is ODIOUS DEBT, and they should repudiate it. Every last bit of it.

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  74. Harbinger says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Clearly the concept of service is beyond you. That is fine if you are simply looking to be an ethical individual consumer but it is a huge problem if you ever want any sort of collective action. Ergo, it is a huge problem for any sort of nationalist. Or indeed a person who wishes to live in a non-autistic and non-atomised fashion. It is not a high barrier to jump!

    The issue is that collective action, as opposed to a pop culture style team of wise-cracking superheros, requires each member to subsume their independent choices, to a large degree, to whatever process of decision-making their collective abides by.

    This doesn't mean that you can't advocate otherwise. I can promise you that plenty in the military disagree with adventurism but it is a necessity for civilisation that they respect the process nonetheless. It also shows intellectual humility and ethos.

    It is too funny that I need to explain this to a self-styled real nationalist.

    “Clearly the concept of service is beyond you.”

    Quite the contrary, I know all about it. Having grown up on a strict regime of sports and martial arts, I spent that time also as an Army Cadet while in school. Seven years to be precise and ending up representing my country, in the Cadet shooting competitions, as a Marksman first class. I then spent a brief time training in the Royal Marine Reserves. I was thankful to my elder brother who managed to persuade me not to go into the Royal Marines, as I was intent on doing a Potential Officer’s course, when I was around 20. I would certainly have succeeded.

    I got older and wiser. I understood how older people manipulate the young, remove their conscience and turn them into killing machines, young men, psychologically destroyed, all so that bankers can make more money, blood money. And what happens to the psychologically young men? Well, they have very hard time fitting in in Civvy street. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is all the rage now, the horrors as it was known in WW1.

    Anyway, I digress…. The first armed forces were created for the sole purpose of invasion NOT defense. Higher ranking authority and strict discipline was there to break the moral code of the men within. They did not want thinking men, capable of making rational decisions, on what is right and wrong. Good God no. They wanted men, to control, to break and to turn into machines, who knew that the top brass did the thinking and they did the killing. In fact, one could say that the armed forces run on a parallel with freemasonry – “A good freemason doesn’t ask why, when given a command. He just does it.”

    Again you ignore my Dante example within my last reply, failing to see that Dante very well knew that he had killed, not in the name of God. He realized that some bishop could not absolve him of his sins. You fail to see that this very much expresses any man who kills under the orders of another. Thou Shalt Not Kill is there for a reason and there is a HUGE difference in killing to defend your home and your family to invading a foreign nation, murdering its people all in the name of some false political ideology called democracy, nothing more than the first steps on the ladder to communism and tyranny.

    It is pointless debating with you Tyrion. You are unable to refute anything I have put to you. You blindly stand by the ridiculous concept of military adventurism is necessary for civilization. This stupidity is nothing more than building blocks for tyranny, banker tyranny, Jewish banker tyranny, for quite simply, were there no Jews, in positions of power, authority and influence within the west, we’d all be getting on incredibly well with our neighbours, north, east, west and south and there would be no need to bomb the crap out of Islam, all for the sake of Zionism.

    This is my last reply to you. If you haven’t got it by now, you never will.

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    I've got it though - and thank you so much for your sterling efforts. No matter how much you try, you will never make the wilfully blind (or criminally stupid) left-liberal, cultural Marxist, snowflake race traitors see the hard truth.

    In case you're not already on it, try looking through the Occidental Observer - especially, in the massive Author List, the essays/ articles of Andrew Joyce (specialist in the JQ) and Tobias Langdon (state of Britain under Jewry and it's army of Black thugs and street scum)

    The reason ? I'm happier than I ever thought possible, these last few years, to have indestructible proof that there ARE many, many others - smart, educated, balanced, massively-intelligent people - who see the truth through the lies, and are fighting hard and giving no quarter to take our world back from the brink of Jew insanity and mass slaughter. Now at last I can also see a better White-only Western future, through what was before simply a godawful, satanically-evil Jew-controlled present.

    When the war for the survival of our country, history and race is finally over and the dust has settled, those political liars, brainwashed fools, money-grabbing race traitors and White-hating racist Zionist filth who have brought civil war to the peaceful streets of England for the first time in more than 350 years will hang from the lampposts. I can only hope and pray I am there to see it.

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  75. Them Guys says:
    @Harbinger
    Been stating for ages now that Tommy Robinson is controlled opposition along with the rest of the 'alt right' Youtuber sensations to spring up of late - Paul Joseph Watson (and Alex Jones obviously), Jordan Peterson, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Ruben, Stephen Crowder, Gavin McInnes, Lauren Southern, Brittany Pettibone, Faith Goldy, Milo Yiannopolous, Douglas Murray (although not a YouTuber).....

    The list goes on and on.

    I am now beginning to realize what's the point in writing anymore when people are so easily coerced into supporting Israel and not bother cutting through the BS and realize that the Jew is evil in this world, controlling both the left and the right narrative? No matter what evidence you give, from history to present day, until they reclaim back the slurs of nazi and racist, nothing will stop the utter destruction of Europe and the west.

    They are simply far to stupid to realize that with every new 'hero' that is put up for them to follow, they sacrifice more of their traditional values. Tommy Robinson and all the shills mentioned are pro immigration, pro multiculturalism, pro homosexuality, pro multiracial societies but in order to get the support of the moronic right, they oppose feminism and transgenders.

    Tommy Robinson speaks of how he went to the BNP with two of his black mates and the BNP told him that their party was for the preservation of the white peoples of the UK and that his friends weren't welcome. Of course he said that he told them all to get lost and stormed out.

    It sickens me, because quite frankly I don't care what happens to the sellout Robinson. I have a strong suspicion that he will probably be murdered in prison BY A MUSLIM which will set off even more hatred for Muslims as is the plan. He's a patsy, like Lee Harvey Oswald, most certainly promised that he'll be looked after no matter how rough the ride gets, failing to realize that his execution had already been planned, long before he signed his soul to Zion. There are many Jack Rubys waiting in prison for him.

    I have continually, on many forums tried to point out to nationalists in the UK that you are either white and British or you are not British. I have pointed out that racial origin defines one's nationality and that when you grant citizenship to those outside of it, you destroy the concept of nation. People just don't get it. They fail to see that after WW2, when the Race Acts came in and West Indians were granted citizenship in the UK, the nations they were granted nationality of INSTANTLY ended.
    If all the apples wanted to become bananas, what's the point in having an apple and banana definition anymore?

    I'm beginning to realize that people deserve the society they live within. If they are not prepared to educate themselves and see that Jewry has been a cancer on this earth, since its creation and that they are seeking for the ultimate genocide of white peoples and their cultures, then quite frankly, they'll deserve that when it happens. They have only themselves to blame as the truth is and always has been out there.

    Much of these 3rd world immigrant agendas and policies are a direct cause of, for too long now, 50+ yrs. Most of the white Christian sects have taken Christs words to “Go to every nation and make believers/Christians out of them” seriously as they should have….However, as we see so often from all these do-gooders and virtue signalers, they always totally Ignore the rest or the other verses also stated… Such as yes while Christians are told to go into the world etc….Christs words also said..

    “And when He sent the twelve out and seventy additional persons out so to spread the gospel of Christ….He, Christ, Warned them all to take heed and remember to also only attempt to convert the unbelievers ONCE….And in EVERY town, city or nation they ended up in to preach that as long as They And their Gospel message was well received….Then it was okay to remain for supper as was the custom afforded to travelers….And also to feel safe if spending the night when also offered to them.”….They also were told to remain just long enough to get the new believers who do accept the gospel up to speed so they then can finish the gospel education job on their Own..and to Then Leave and go elsewhere….Not Bring hoards of those peoples back home with them!

    BUT…Also stated or more like an Order to obey was that, “If folks in ANY place you end up in Reject You or the gospel you preach….LEAVE ASAP Fast, and when at end of that towns main road, Stop and make certain those who rejected it and or you, See you Shake the towns dust off of your sandals… And, Do Not remain for supper Nor spend a night of sleep there”.

    Then He explained that any who failed to heed and Obey these commands , it would be very likely that even Christ would be Unable to fully keep them safe and protected from any evil townsfolk who desired to harm the preachers.

    Keep in mind that to “Shake off the town roads dust from your sandals” was Akin to today to give someone the Middle Finger aka a fuck You! to them.

    And reason for inability to assure 100% safety in places where folks reject them or the message. Is due to everyone, even evil doers have Free Will and god does not interfere usually with that personal free will…..They will later pay for bad free will choices yes…But in mean time a person such as those spreading the good word, could still be harmed or killed in such places.

    Okay…Now this is how todays and past 50+ yrs of Christian do gooders who think they copycat and act in same way to spread the gospel etc….Go totally 180 degrees wrong.

    Do todays evangelizers make but One attempt? NO….They keep returning again and again, they try every possible method known to man to convert the, usually typically remote savage africans for example.

    They have massive “Meals-On-Wheels” programs….”Do you wish to believe in Jesus?….(while holding aloft a huge Ham Sandwich in air so entire starving crowd can see it being offered).

    Do half starved savage tribal africans trade off a belief in Jesus for a ham sandwich? Of Course they Do!

    And no matter what….The do gooders keep returning again and again, going on over 50 years for many now. Entire multi Billion $$ non profits have been erected based upon “Feed them starved savage children’s wont you please” Just Send $$$ as Much as can afford to Franklin Grahm and Co. and he will take Ham Sandwich’s and bottle of free clean water aboard his Brand new $55-Million Lear Jet to get those ham sandwiches to starved folk PDQ-Fast!

    Then when they end up with so many such do gooder groups doing exact same program of mass feedings, that they now have to write down actual numbers of New “Converts” (with now full tummys!)…..To Brag about on daily TV sermon/Cash Donation shows of how Last weekend we got 1,293 African jungle bunnies converted to be true believers Hallaluyah Folks now send Cash asap fast so we can go Back again and again.

    So now with so many competing against each “religious Sect of do gooders” each with their very Own self apointed Pope/bible interpreter expert pastor, bar none.

    They move to the Next level, which also can contain huge per refugee status immigrant they can infiltrate into a White and into an Only White Nation, amounts of extra $$$ Cash grants Via Fed Govnt’s! Make it a Double Halaluayah Folks and be sure to Send more $$$ direct to Passda Loot your preacherman host on todays tv show.

    All they then need is Sanctuary Citys and church buildings to temp-house said new believer savages.

    Which both neocon jew run politions as well as dem lib jew run pols are eager to approve of and make good use of Talmudic style spin/scam/swindle-circular speak new laws or policies to accomodate said savage travelers into Only White Nations….

    But if these so called “christians” (apostates and duped fools mainly) would take whats written IN context, and stop mixing various found half-verses from a dozen separate biblical locations into an brand New interpretation to accomodate and approve of such agendas or policies.

    Then they would have never kept returning for 50+ years to finally get a few hungry “converts” and saved tons of cash that could get spent in better ways yet….Like maybe help folks within Own Nation or cities eh?

    When one considers all these long ongoing agendas and programs, along with a totally duped mindset based upon seeing the word of, “Jew” every place where the actual orig word of “israel or hebrew” was written, so to use that false interpretation to litterrally abjectly worship jewry and israel state. One can see that while yes international jewry and especially zionists are behind every such major problem we today face, and which Will fuly Destroy Whites unless halted and quickly so.

    But that these duped apostates play a hge role in it all. So huge of a role that if only such apostate dupes would finally get Red Pilled awakened, every such wrong bad agenda that are against white folks woud get stopped fast and the true real culprits would be done in for certain.

    The true culprits woud face a choice of exit usa and other first world whitey nations fast as a bolt of lightning, or get litterally hunted down and delt with even faster yet. And also be forced to Pack in their luggage bags those filthy sell out neocons and dem lib Pols, and those darkies they infiltrated into our nations…….And if instead things worked out that it was african savages accepting an cash offer to take a One Way boat back to africa first, before any other culprits got delt with?..No problem, and perhaps someone or the fed govnt can offer additional cash bribes for exiting african savages to stuff a few jews and crooked pols into their suit cases and travel bags eh.

    A double whammy solution to rid whiteys of a double whammy Curse imposed upon them with zero say or votes for such on their part usually.

    I just wonder why we see so many now that are awake and know the deal, yet when they make a list of major culprits, most fail to include or even consider the vast huge numbers of 60+ Million usa apostate jew/israel firsters that typically also are the same pro african refugee group of persons.

    The other Major biblical verses they also refuse to aknowlege or read, let alone obey, is where it speaks of Two distinct groups of peoples…One being children of Light aka Gods kids, and the other group as children of Darkness aka Satan the Devils children. It contains a long list of whom belongs to which group, and ends with the words of “From such children of Darkness…TURN AWAY FROM THEM!”……Now with so many other verses describing jews as the Main children of Devil Satan, one would think even the most ignorant of those duped 60+ million foolish ones, would comprehend that when it says From such Turn away from them as in have zero, nothing at all to do with that groups members, and obey it fully eh…..If done so, most of todays jew caused troubles and woes would have never gained traction in the first place.

    So yes, I for one lay much blame for these problems at the feet of those I call the duped apostates and israel/jew-firster bunch. Anybody who doubts the truth in this, simply attend a local “Tea-Party” Org. Event, take a few printed pages of actual vetted, verrified, factual, Truths regards jewish treachery against every white, every first world whitey nation, especially the USA nation, and try to hand out said printed pages of facts to tea party neocon repub members there….See what happens Next!…ps make sure your life insurance policy is paid up in full before attempting such methods to awaken those apostate dupes eh.

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    In that whole wall of text, you won't admit one simple fact:

    Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi.

    One who wanted the Goy he despised (Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, Luke 22:25) to abandon their own blood and soil (Luke 14:26, Matthew 19:27-30).

    So why are you worshiping a foreigner, hmm? You're a traitor to your own, just like the Jew wants you to. Stop it.
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  76. Not Raul says:
    @TelfoedJohn
    If you're a humble fish, and there are aggresive piranhas in your stretch of the river, then it makes sense to support the fish who are fighting the piranhas. However, if those 'fighting fish' are also friends with the poisonous frogs who introduced the piranhas, you start to wonder what's going on. Maybe it's time to go after the frogs?

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  77. @Tyrion 2
    When you go to the cinema with a large group of friends do you all just see individual movies in separate rooms?

    It depends upon the movie.

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  78. Them Guys says:
    @DFH
    Jerusalem has nothing to do with Jewish interests. Ironically Revelations, which is of course where the imagery for the poem comes from, is very anti-Jewish. The King of Israel is God because Israel means the Church.

    Echoes of history: You are very mixed up on Jesus and Christianity issue it seems. He was Not a “Jewish Rabbi”….He was a Nazarene born of true Hebrew Israelite stock on his mothers side as well as a true God in flesh man due to His Fathers side.

    By time of his birth the word of jew had gone thru aprox 3 or more different meanings. And the final meaning for word of jew was akin to todays word of nigger. Due to Israelites had by then mixed with just about every possible combo of Non Israelites tribes and races. And their very own jewish almanacs state that Not only should modern jews be Not compared to ancient biblical Israelites but also that old testament ancient Israelites should Not be aquainted nor compared with to modern day jews. Same almanacs also say there is Zero Blood nor same Mother Ties within modern day jews. So basically 99+% of all we/you was told to believe about jews and jewish issues is pure fake Bunkola.

    Also of Note: Fact that a time of Jesus Birth and during His lifetime, The jewish King of jewry then was Herrod Jr. and his daddy herod was also their king prior to Jr’s reign….That’s important due to Both Herod sr and Herod Jr were Edomites!….Now why on earth would strictly obedient Talmudic jews have or allow for an EDOMITE king of Jews to reign as king over jerusalems jewry eh?

    Those same, many eras of jewish almanacs dating back at least to early 1800′s era, and newer modern era versions almanacs also state that, Before Christs birth, Judah tribe had captured and forced ALL of Edom aka edomites which were Esaus decendants and the worst mortal enemys of Jacobs 12 tribes Israelites…Into Judah and forced edoms conversions into Talmudic jewry.

    Christ was NEVER a Talmudic rabbi, and He Railed vociferously Against the Talmudic sect rabbis and ALL Talmudic jewish Folowers of said Talmudic rabbis…

    Furthemore, once a person becomes a true Christian, like John the Apostle and writer of book of Revelation, as well as several other gospel books of John (see John 8:44 for christs words to jews!! then see Rev 2:9 & 3:9 for additional proof Christ was Not a jew per se’ as many wrongly interpret word of jew)….But once a person bcomes a Christian as stated biblically, he or she becomes a “New Creature or Creation In Christ” as if became reborn a new individual opposite from former unbeliever child of darkness by default.

    It appears you suffer the very same problem that so many atheists and various types of unbelievers or anti-Christians do…..You assume from what you heard or maybe read in a bible and based on own interpretation with a pre biased notion to prove Christians or the bible false is in fact true.

    Which each time another person states such false facts just proves the bible correct where it says that only true believers will understand it and to all unbelievers it will be simple folly.

    That’s due to it states that one must be filled with the Holy Spirit before one can fully and Properly understand much of the written words of God.

    Well so far each time another one attempts to discredit Christ or Christianity, and makes idiotic wrong statements in attempting to enlighten real believers about who or whats a jew etc….They again prove such prior mentioned verses as correct and true.

    I rekon its akin to asking a car mechanic about brain surgery,and accepting his advice as factual eh.

    It also appears that most of the most adamant atheistic type people have created one of the biggest and loudest Religions yet….Their is the religion of Anti-Religion, which has by them been turned into a religion all its own…Its okay by me as I either ignore it or try to awaken them somewhat if possible…if not?..Thats okay to. But for many such folks it sure seems they get worse angry at Christianity and its believers than Fags or Feminist commie Dykes get no?

    I never yet could understand why so many unbelievers and atheists get so damn foam at mouth angry mad at believers…Its just not normal I think eh. If not aware of what I mean simply keep reading these forums for soon examples of out of control angry atheists types when again the forum lights up with their typical foaming replies.

    And if you really desire a knowledge based on facts etc about Christ and jewry etc, just check out a few good websites that far better explain what I tried to explain in this reply…Search “Christ was NOT a jew” for starters. That should bring up a few info sites.

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    Are you truly claiming that "Jesus was not a Jewish Rabbi?" Was he Chinese? Turkish? Space Alien? Have you never read the Jew Testament? Jesus is referred to as a Rabbi many times, e.g.:

    • Peter called Jesus a Rabbi (Mark 9:5).
    • Mary Magdalene called Jesus a Rabbi (John 20:16).
    • Nicodemus called Jesus a Rabbi (John 3:2).
    • He taught and was popular in the Synagogues . Who else but a Jewish Rabbi does that? (Luke 4:15)

    But you want me to ignore the Jew Testament and "just check out a few good websites." LOL! I just about had coffee coming out my nose!

    I'll tell you what, you google your "few good websites" and try to explain away the plain meaning of this:

    "THE JEW FIRST." (Romans 1:16)
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  79. Them Guys says:
    @Harbinger

    "Such brave people here who, like myself, go tippy-tappy on keyboards under pseudonyms on websites and criticize people who actually put themselves in actual physical danger. Two days after Memorial Day, too, not bad."
     
    I use a pseudonym because my name is a contract sealer for legal imprisonment for exercising freedom of speech. Why do you think so many people are being arrested for posting on social media under their own name - Facebook, Twitter etc?

    And Memorial Day
    Hmm....
    Ten years back, here in the UK, I was attacked walking home. I defended myself and in due course was arrested by the police, for causing a Breach of the Peace. The attacker paid his £150 fine and I spent a night in the cell. I refused to pay and went through the court malarkey, with doctored police CCTV evidence, but was eventually acquitted due to a witness not recognizing me, the police had called as theirs.
    And yet, members of the armed forces, KNOWINGLY, invade foreign lands, murder the indigenous, who are labeled as terrorists, destroy their civilization, bring about a refugee crisis whom many are piling into Europe causing chaos and yet, they come home, parade through the streets and are hailed as heroes, when they are nothing more than assassins of the Rothschild banking cabal, granted legal permission to go abroad and murder in the name of democracy?

    Is it me or is there something odd about a society that imprisons people for defending themselves against attack in their own lands, but celebrates armed forces personnel when they go abroad and murder people who pose them and their country no threat at all?

    Culloden in 1745 was the last battle fought on UK soil. Every other battle after that, the indigenous, now under the control of the English king become invaders of foreign lands and not defenders of their own. The English have been the same pretty much since William the Conqueror and the Battle of Hastings. The Americans' last war on home soil was probably the wars with the Apaches, not long after the civil war.

    All wars of the twentieth century including those of today are wars for the establishment of Greater Israel. I'm not going to celebrate the actions and subsequent deaths of armed forces personnel who not only did wrong in fighting in these wars but have brought about the utter destruction of the west, ironically the very reason they went into these wars to stop from ever happening.

    "How dare you say that about brave men who gave their lives....blah....blah.....blah....."
    Erm no.
    If the Nuremberg trials can falsely demonize work camp personnel and drill into the public the "we were only doing our jobs" statement doesn't absolve you of criminality, then we must do the same with armed forces personnel who willingly followed orders, yet never bothered to check to see if what they were doing was wrong and they were in fact the terrorists bringing more harm to their nations than they realized. And worse, all of these men, in fighting for Zion have actually, unknowingly committed treason against their people and nation.

    Harbinger, Very well stated…You obviously are very awake and wise about the Core problems we face in usa and uk as well as every white based nation does. I hope you keep posting replies here as you really do know of what you speak. Honest facts based posters and voices are an asset that is very needed today more than ever.

    Especially with so many zio paid troll Hasbara agents that show up on Q every time an article or a reply names the jew as a jewy jewish trouble makers and a true Misfortune wrecking and ruining our nations and peoples.

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    Indeed, Israel has representation in the US Govt, but no taxation.
    In fact the Zionist parasites grab billion upon billions of taxpayer money every year.

    Check out this long list:

    How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet
    http://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/?highlight=wikipedia
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/
    ‘Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security’
    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs/
    Fact:
    every US taxpayers ‘loan’ that “that shitty little country” has received has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously “forgives/forgave” all these huge debts.
    Not to mention:
    The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion
    http://www.wrmea.org/2003-june/the-costs-to-american-taxpayers-of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
    The Zionist attempt to control language.
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY
    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf
    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses
    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.709014
    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media
    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook
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  80. Anonymous[533] • Disclaimer says:

    Great men exist, but for the most part, the names we hear about are very overrated.

    Must were just Names who knew how to take credit. The worst thing we can do is sit around waiting for a “great leader” to motivate us.

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  81. Them Guys says:
    @Art

    Jordan Peterson’s (indirect) connection to the Jewish Defense League (which I believe is a Mossad front group) through his relationship with Jewish-Canadian, neocon extraordinaire Ezra Levant:
     
    Clearly Jordan Peterson is allowed to do his anti-feminist thing because he is pro Jew.

    The question is how can an intellectually honest man be pro Jew/Israel? Knowing about AIPAC, ADL, IDF, and Mossad - how can anyone support Jews and at the same time claim intellectual rectitude?

    Jew feminism is the mother of the Western feminism that Peterson opposes. The hate element of feminism, flows from Jew male unyielding top-down poor treatment of Jew women. In Jew culture, male/female relationships are contentious. Jew men are never faithful to Jew wives. Jew women’s hate for male Jew control over them, has been projected onto all males.

    This negative hateful cultural situation is not hard to see. Someone of Peterson’s intellect must realize this. Yet he says nothing, because if he did, he would be shut up by Jew hegemony over Western culture.

    Jew hegemony over our culture is the real problem – feminism is just part of it.

    Think Peace --- Do No Harm --- Maintain Hope --- Love Idealism --- Art

    I agree Art. And I fail to see how so many so called “Patriots” that so many dupes consider a true usa patriot such as Hannity, Rush, Beck, Et Al too many names to list here. Can be truly worried or concerned with j0b loss if they ever finally speak out truth regarding jews and Israel.

    I mean when I read how Hannity makes something like $20 million per year. Rush made $15 million per year his first 15 yrs….Then Rush’s new 10 year contract is for $40 Million per year for a 3 hr per day 5 day week Radio talk show where rush decides what to talk on!

    Or this new guy Peterson, I read on a reply here other day that he makes about $50 Grand per month from his yutube videos plus a lot more thru donations and book sales..

    Okay that’s great, earn as much as can right….So…Just How much must one person earn and accumulate before a loss of job jewish threat is meaningless eh?

    I read Ann Coulter IIRC has so far $150 Million in her bank account…..Beck= same likely.

    So again How much is enough before one can actually become a real 100% truth teller and damn any jew threats etc eh?

    No, it was/is never ever about truth or honesty with such clowns…It is ALL about the $$$$ and more is always their main desire…No other answer fits.

    I have fully lost all respect for and refuse to read or listen to any such persons unless they speak truth and that includes true facts on jews and Israel like we here do state as factual and truthful.

    And when the SHTF as I am 99.9% certain it shall, and likely in our time before too much longer, I will never ever stand by those type persons side or share a fox hole with such types.

    I rather sit in a dirty fox hole when the day arrives that we have no other options left, with a totally penny less true patriot that is awake and does speak truth regardless what jews or so called eliets etc say period.

    I view all these fraud phonies as no more than the “Luke Warm” souls mentioned biblically in first few chapters of Rev book…..”And those who are Luke Warm I shall Spew from My mouth!”

    Right, and since there are just Two other groups besides luke warmers, that being the awake saved and the lost, I assume when spat out luke warm folks shall join with the lost losers. And none are more lost than the stiff necked and stubborn jews.

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  82. @Them Guys
    Much of these 3rd world immigrant agendas and policies are a direct cause of, for too long now, 50+ yrs. Most of the white Christian sects have taken Christs words to "Go to every nation and make believers/Christians out of them" seriously as they should have....However, as we see so often from all these do-gooders and virtue signalers, they always totally Ignore the rest or the other verses also stated... Such as yes while Christians are told to go into the world etc....Christs words also said..


    "And when He sent the twelve out and seventy additional persons out so to spread the gospel of Christ....He, Christ, Warned them all to take heed and remember to also only attempt to convert the unbelievers ONCE....And in EVERY town, city or nation they ended up in to preach that as long as They And their Gospel message was well received....Then it was okay to remain for supper as was the custom afforded to travelers....And also to feel safe if spending the night when also offered to them."....They also were told to remain just long enough to get the new believers who do accept the gospel up to speed so they then can finish the gospel education job on their Own..and to Then Leave and go elsewhere....Not Bring hoards of those peoples back home with them!


    BUT...Also stated or more like an Order to obey was that, "If folks in ANY place you end up in Reject You or the gospel you preach....LEAVE ASAP Fast, and when at end of that towns main road, Stop and make certain those who rejected it and or you, See you Shake the towns dust off of your sandals... And, Do Not remain for supper Nor spend a night of sleep there".


    Then He explained that any who failed to heed and Obey these commands , it would be very likely that even Christ would be Unable to fully keep them safe and protected from any evil townsfolk who desired to harm the preachers.


    Keep in mind that to "Shake off the town roads dust from your sandals" was Akin to today to give someone the Middle Finger aka a fuck You! to them.


    And reason for inability to assure 100% safety in places where folks reject them or the message. Is due to everyone, even evil doers have Free Will and god does not interfere usually with that personal free will.....They will later pay for bad free will choices yes...But in mean time a person such as those spreading the good word, could still be harmed or killed in such places.


    Okay...Now this is how todays and past 50+ yrs of Christian do gooders who think they copycat and act in same way to spread the gospel etc....Go totally 180 degrees wrong.


    Do todays evangelizers make but One attempt? NO....They keep returning again and again, they try every possible method known to man to convert the, usually typically remote savage africans for example.


    They have massive "Meals-On-Wheels" programs...."Do you wish to believe in Jesus?....(while holding aloft a huge Ham Sandwich in air so entire starving crowd can see it being offered).


    Do half starved savage tribal africans trade off a belief in Jesus for a ham sandwich? Of Course they Do!


    And no matter what....The do gooders keep returning again and again, going on over 50 years for many now. Entire multi Billion $$ non profits have been erected based upon "Feed them starved savage children's wont you please" Just Send $$$ as Much as can afford to Franklin Grahm and Co. and he will take Ham Sandwich's and bottle of free clean water aboard his Brand new $55-Million Lear Jet to get those ham sandwiches to starved folk PDQ-Fast!


    Then when they end up with so many such do gooder groups doing exact same program of mass feedings, that they now have to write down actual numbers of New "Converts" (with now full tummys!)…..To Brag about on daily TV sermon/Cash Donation shows of how Last weekend we got 1,293 African jungle bunnies converted to be true believers Hallaluyah Folks now send Cash asap fast so we can go Back again and again.


    So now with so many competing against each "religious Sect of do gooders" each with their very Own self apointed Pope/bible interpreter expert pastor, bar none.


    They move to the Next level, which also can contain huge per refugee status immigrant they can infiltrate into a White and into an Only White Nation, amounts of extra $$$ Cash grants Via Fed Govnt's! Make it a Double Halaluayah Folks and be sure to Send more $$$ direct to Passda Loot your preacherman host on todays tv show.


    All they then need is Sanctuary Citys and church buildings to temp-house said new believer savages.


    Which both neocon jew run politions as well as dem lib jew run pols are eager to approve of and make good use of Talmudic style spin/scam/swindle-circular speak new laws or policies to accomodate said savage travelers into Only White Nations....


    But if these so called "christians" (apostates and duped fools mainly) would take whats written IN context, and stop mixing various found half-verses from a dozen separate biblical locations into an brand New interpretation to accomodate and approve of such agendas or policies.


    Then they would have never kept returning for 50+ years to finally get a few hungry "converts" and saved tons of cash that could get spent in better ways yet....Like maybe help folks within Own Nation or cities eh?


    When one considers all these long ongoing agendas and programs, along with a totally duped mindset based upon seeing the word of, "Jew" every place where the actual orig word of "israel or hebrew" was written, so to use that false interpretation to litterrally abjectly worship jewry and israel state. One can see that while yes international jewry and especially zionists are behind every such major problem we today face, and which Will fuly Destroy Whites unless halted and quickly so.


    But that these duped apostates play a hge role in it all. So huge of a role that if only such apostate dupes would finally get Red Pilled awakened, every such wrong bad agenda that are against white folks woud get stopped fast and the true real culprits would be done in for certain.


    The true culprits woud face a choice of exit usa and other first world whitey nations fast as a bolt of lightning, or get litterally hunted down and delt with even faster yet. And also be forced to Pack in their luggage bags those filthy sell out neocons and dem lib Pols, and those darkies they infiltrated into our nations.......And if instead things worked out that it was african savages accepting an cash offer to take a One Way boat back to africa first, before any other culprits got delt with?..No problem, and perhaps someone or the fed govnt can offer additional cash bribes for exiting african savages to stuff a few jews and crooked pols into their suit cases and travel bags eh.


    A double whammy solution to rid whiteys of a double whammy Curse imposed upon them with zero say or votes for such on their part usually.


    I just wonder why we see so many now that are awake and know the deal, yet when they make a list of major culprits, most fail to include or even consider the vast huge numbers of 60+ Million usa apostate jew/israel firsters that typically also are the same pro african refugee group of persons.


    The other Major biblical verses they also refuse to aknowlege or read, let alone obey, is where it speaks of Two distinct groups of peoples...One being children of Light aka Gods kids, and the other group as children of Darkness aka Satan the Devils children. It contains a long list of whom belongs to which group, and ends with the words of "From such children of Darkness...TURN AWAY FROM THEM!"......Now with so many other verses describing jews as the Main children of Devil Satan, one would think even the most ignorant of those duped 60+ million foolish ones, would comprehend that when it says From such Turn away from them as in have zero, nothing at all to do with that groups members, and obey it fully eh.....If done so, most of todays jew caused troubles and woes would have never gained traction in the first place.


    So yes, I for one lay much blame for these problems at the feet of those I call the duped apostates and israel/jew-firster bunch. Anybody who doubts the truth in this, simply attend a local "Tea-Party" Org. Event, take a few printed pages of actual vetted, verrified, factual, Truths regards jewish treachery against every white, every first world whitey nation, especially the USA nation, and try to hand out said printed pages of facts to tea party neocon repub members there....See what happens Next!...ps make sure your life insurance policy is paid up in full before attempting such methods to awaken those apostate dupes eh.

    In that whole wall of text, you won’t admit one simple fact:

    Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi.

    One who wanted the Goy he despised (Matthew 20:25, Mark 10:42, Luke 22:25) to abandon their own blood and soil (Luke 14:26, Matthew 19:27-30).

    So why are you worshiping a foreigner, hmm? You’re a traitor to your own, just like the Jew wants you to. Stop it.

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  83. @Them Guys
    Echoes of history: You are very mixed up on Jesus and Christianity issue it seems. He was Not a "Jewish Rabbi"....He was a Nazarene born of true Hebrew Israelite stock on his mothers side as well as a true God in flesh man due to His Fathers side.


    By time of his birth the word of jew had gone thru aprox 3 or more different meanings. And the final meaning for word of jew was akin to todays word of nigger. Due to Israelites had by then mixed with just about every possible combo of Non Israelites tribes and races. And their very own jewish almanacs state that Not only should modern jews be Not compared to ancient biblical Israelites but also that old testament ancient Israelites should Not be aquainted nor compared with to modern day jews. Same almanacs also say there is Zero Blood nor same Mother Ties within modern day jews. So basically 99+% of all we/you was told to believe about jews and jewish issues is pure fake Bunkola.


    Also of Note: Fact that a time of Jesus Birth and during His lifetime, The jewish King of jewry then was Herrod Jr. and his daddy herod was also their king prior to Jr's reign....That's important due to Both Herod sr and Herod Jr were Edomites!....Now why on earth would strictly obedient Talmudic jews have or allow for an EDOMITE king of Jews to reign as king over jerusalems jewry eh?


    Those same, many eras of jewish almanacs dating back at least to early 1800's era, and newer modern era versions almanacs also state that, Before Christs birth, Judah tribe had captured and forced ALL of Edom aka edomites which were Esaus decendants and the worst mortal enemys of Jacobs 12 tribes Israelites...Into Judah and forced edoms conversions into Talmudic jewry.


    Christ was NEVER a Talmudic rabbi, and He Railed vociferously Against the Talmudic sect rabbis and ALL Talmudic jewish Folowers of said Talmudic rabbis...


    Furthemore, once a person becomes a true Christian, like John the Apostle and writer of book of Revelation, as well as several other gospel books of John (see John 8:44 for christs words to jews!! then see Rev 2:9 & 3:9 for additional proof Christ was Not a jew per se' as many wrongly interpret word of jew)….But once a person bcomes a Christian as stated biblically, he or she becomes a "New Creature or Creation In Christ" as if became reborn a new individual opposite from former unbeliever child of darkness by default.


    It appears you suffer the very same problem that so many atheists and various types of unbelievers or anti-Christians do.....You assume from what you heard or maybe read in a bible and based on own interpretation with a pre biased notion to prove Christians or the bible false is in fact true.


    Which each time another person states such false facts just proves the bible correct where it says that only true believers will understand it and to all unbelievers it will be simple folly.


    That's due to it states that one must be filled with the Holy Spirit before one can fully and Properly understand much of the written words of God.


    Well so far each time another one attempts to discredit Christ or Christianity, and makes idiotic wrong statements in attempting to enlighten real believers about who or whats a jew etc....They again prove such prior mentioned verses as correct and true.


    I rekon its akin to asking a car mechanic about brain surgery,and accepting his advice as factual eh.


    It also appears that most of the most adamant atheistic type people have created one of the biggest and loudest Religions yet....Their is the religion of Anti-Religion, which has by them been turned into a religion all its own...Its okay by me as I either ignore it or try to awaken them somewhat if possible...if not?..Thats okay to. But for many such folks it sure seems they get worse angry at Christianity and its believers than Fags or Feminist commie Dykes get no?


    I never yet could understand why so many unbelievers and atheists get so damn foam at mouth angry mad at believers...Its just not normal I think eh. If not aware of what I mean simply keep reading these forums for soon examples of out of control angry atheists types when again the forum lights up with their typical foaming replies.


    And if you really desire a knowledge based on facts etc about Christ and jewry etc, just check out a few good websites that far better explain what I tried to explain in this reply...Search "Christ was NOT a jew" for starters. That should bring up a few info sites.

    Are you truly claiming that “Jesus was not a Jewish Rabbi?” Was he Chinese? Turkish? Space Alien? Have you never read the Jew Testament? Jesus is referred to as a Rabbi many times, e.g.:

    • Peter called Jesus a Rabbi (Mark 9:5).
    • Mary Magdalene called Jesus a Rabbi (John 20:16).
    • Nicodemus called Jesus a Rabbi (John 3:2).
    • He taught and was popular in the Synagogues . Who else but a Jewish Rabbi does that? (Luke 4:15)

    But you want me to ignore the Jew Testament and “just check out a few good websites.” LOL! I just about had coffee coming out my nose!

    I’ll tell you what, you google your “few good websites” and try to explain away the plain meaning of this:

    “THE JEW FIRST.” (Romans 1:16)

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    Not a rabbi. Not a Jew.
    Jesus came to evil central
    home of Satan and his spawn to save mankind.
    War for 2000 years.
    Judaizers infiltrated and continue today.

    Marcion and others tried to clean Bible.
    Great majority of early Christians wanted nothing to do with OT.

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  84. Wally says:

    Author said:
    “Now, whatever one thinks to the Charlottesville march, most of those involved were not “Nazis” …”

    Was does that even mean?

    Given the fact that the claimed ’6,000,000 Jews and 5,000,000 others’ simply did not, could not happen, means that the entire matter is pointless. Leaving us with the fact that NS Germany did nothing that others were not doing at the time.

    Or as has been said:

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    Get informed, get off your knees. The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

    Regards.

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  85. Wally says:
    @Them Guys
    Harbinger, Very well stated...You obviously are very awake and wise about the Core problems we face in usa and uk as well as every white based nation does. I hope you keep posting replies here as you really do know of what you speak. Honest facts based posters and voices are an asset that is very needed today more than ever.


    Especially with so many zio paid troll Hasbara agents that show up on Q every time an article or a reply names the jew as a jewy jewish trouble makers and a true Misfortune wrecking and ruining our nations and peoples.

    Indeed, Israel has representation in the US Govt, but no taxation.
    In fact the Zionist parasites grab billion upon billions of taxpayer money every year.

    Check out this long list:

    [MORE]

    How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet

    http://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/?highlight=wikipedia

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    ‘Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security’

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs/

    Fact:
    every US taxpayers ‘loan’ that “that shitty little country” has received has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously “forgives/forgave” all these huge debts.
    Not to mention:
    The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion

    http://www.wrmea.org/2003-june/the-costs-to-american-taxpayers-of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html

    The Zionist attempt to control language.
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY

    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf

    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses

    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.709014

    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media

    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook

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    • Replies: @Echoes of History
    Giving all your shekels to Jews is Biblical.

    "For if the Gullible Goyim have shared in the Jews' spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings." (Romans 15:27)
     
    Keep working that overtime, Slaves of JewChrist! After you've worked yourself to death, it'll all be worth it in Jewheaven, as a Bride of JewChrist! ( Think you're going to dodge consummating that marriage, boy?)
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  86. Wally says:
    @Tyrion 2
    I didn't argue against free speech. Not even a little bit. I just pointed out that speaking like paranoiac lunatics doesn't get you a whole lot of public sympathy.

    That you can't understand why I write this only further justifies my previous comment.

    The so-called *woke* British Nationalist scene that half of these comments claim as the true nationalist lot is the hated fringe of a fringe of a fringe. Perhaps that is because of brainwash magical style Jewish scheming...or perhaps you guys are just really unlikeable...

    Have you considered the latter?

    As for Chabloz's eventual small fine being out of place in the British legal system. It isn't. Hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily. Most have no mention of Jews. Your special pleading doesn't cut it.

    Oh, but they had to fund it themselves through a private prosecution...

    Oh, but they got half an hour of desk time with a upper-middle ranking police bureaucrat...

    Oh, but it was a song and songs are different...

    Lol. Who are you kidding?

    And again, I'm all for Chabloz's right to sing songs cackling about the slaughter of millions of innocents. Even to a group of self-styled men of action who wish to repeat that same crime. Whatever floats her wretched boat. It doesn't mean that I need to like or respect her.


    This and most of the rest of your post would appear to be mere desperate abuse on your part, and clearly false.
     
    Can you really say, hand on heart, that most of the London Forum lot aren't Walter Mitty style fantasists? Jeremy Turner is a classic example of one. He likes to give off the aura of being an informer because in reality he was just a failed Signals - as in setting up HQ tents - Officer for a few years. I once met a former colleaugue of his who trained with him. Zero operational experience. Bottom third at Sandhurst.* Not even fun on a night out. At least Hitler was a bona fide war hero.

    *Nothing wrong with that if at least he'd been a bit of fun. Alas...

    said:
    “And again, I’m all for Chabloz’s right to sing songs cackling about the slaughter of millions of innocents. Even to a group of self-styled men of action who wish to repeat that same crime. ”

    Except your “slaughter of millions of innocents” is an impossible claim and simply not supported by proof.
    It is however quite profitable to The Usual Enemies of Free Speech and “that shitty little country”.
    And how can “men of action” repeat a crime which did not occur. That’s just more dumb Zionist double speak and a classic example of ‘garbage in, garbage out’.

    “Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.”
    http://www.codoh.com

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  87. bjondo says:
    @Echoes of History
    Are you truly claiming that "Jesus was not a Jewish Rabbi?" Was he Chinese? Turkish? Space Alien? Have you never read the Jew Testament? Jesus is referred to as a Rabbi many times, e.g.:

    • Peter called Jesus a Rabbi (Mark 9:5).
    • Mary Magdalene called Jesus a Rabbi (John 20:16).
    • Nicodemus called Jesus a Rabbi (John 3:2).
    • He taught and was popular in the Synagogues . Who else but a Jewish Rabbi does that? (Luke 4:15)

    But you want me to ignore the Jew Testament and "just check out a few good websites." LOL! I just about had coffee coming out my nose!

    I'll tell you what, you google your "few good websites" and try to explain away the plain meaning of this:

    "THE JEW FIRST." (Romans 1:16)

    Not a rabbi. Not a Jew.
    Jesus came to evil central
    home of Satan and his spawn to save mankind.
    War for 2000 years.
    Judaizers infiltrated and continue today.

    Marcion and others tried to clean Bible.
    Great majority of early Christians wanted nothing to do with OT.

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    The Jew Testament calls Jesus a Rabbi many times. It also calls him a Jew. And it very specifically states "THE JEW FIRST." (Romans 1:16) Can't de-jew that.

    Tried to "clean Bible?" It is certainly a filthy "dunghill." Does that mean throwing parts out? Why not throw the whole damned thing out?

    Well, except for Ecclesiastes, it's not so bad, mainly because it contradicts most everything Rabbi Jesus and Jew Paul spewed.

    "Ecclesiastes is the only charming book ever written by a Jew." -Ernest Renan (1823–1892)
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  88. Say what you want about the Jews. They genuinely care about the downtrodden, the needy and the frightened.

    I once read a story of a Jewish shul in San Francisco whose membership was exclusively gay men. This was at the height of the AIDS crisis. While the country was busy with gay hatred, the Jews recognized them as human beings. A group of frightened men who could be none other than who they were. They were not expected to change. Change was not possible. Nor were they all Jews.

    Jews are more accepting than you think. They seem otherwise because they are a very guarded people. They scrutinize and observe. Better be safe than sorry.

    Jews fight for the rights of transgender people. Have you ever met a transgender child? Anyone on this site?

    A close family member of mine is a transgender child. A young boy who acts like a girl. Perhaps, deep down, he is a girl. I do not know. Whatever he/she is experiencing, it’s real.

    It’s not a sexual condition. He is only 8 years old. An innocent child. A smart, artistic and instrumental child. However, one day it will be a sexual issue. And I know the rate of drug abuse and suicide is high among transgender teens. This makes me sad.

    But the Jews fight like hell for the dignity of people like my cousin. It isn’t something done to gain political points. The concern is real. It’s genuine.

    Don’t you understand? The Jews are a potent force. They are potent because they are genuine. They are successful because they work together with other genuine souls.

    We may disagree with the Jews. But we cannot deny them. They have earned a place among our elect. They carry a very heavy burden. They assume massive responsibility. They care much more than you think.

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    The Jews support for the groups you cite is out of self interest. It is part of the plan to remove Christian morals and ethics and substitute Noahide laws.
    , @Harbinger
    A 'Concerned man'? I doubt it. More like an incredibly ignorant man, a shabbos goyim or a hasbarat troll. Either, causes great concern to the non Jewish population of this world.

    I really don't have the time to dissect your reply fully, as I am off out very shortly, but...

    You come across very much as a woman, full of emotion and absolutely no logic whatsoever


    "Say what you want about the Jews. They genuinely care about the downtrodden, the needy and the frightened."
     
    I would very, very, very much beg to differ. Israel is full of Jews and they don't give two hoots about the regular massacre of Palestinians. Neither, for that matter do the majority of Jews outside of Israel. And I hate to bring up Barbara Specter but the name says it all. Then again, we could also mention Noel Ignatiev, a professor at Massachusetts College of Art whose continued lectures about the abolishing of whiteness (white genocide). "Ah, but Noel doesn't represent all Jews" you may say, I never stated he did, but the very fact that he was not only never ridiculed by the msm or Jewish organizations for his despicable views, he kept his position in the college until he retired. Can you imagine what Jewish groups would have done had a white man, said the same of Jewishness or blackness? He'd have been out of the door before he could have said six million Ku Klux Klan members! Not only that, but he would have been character assassinated, never allowed to work in his field ever again. The ADL and/or the JDL would have seen to that, along with the SPLC.

    Not only are the protocols evidence of the demolition of white people and the destruction of their homelands, but long before that was this letter from the Chief Rabbi of Spain to the Sanhedrin's Grand Satraps of Constantinople Another article of time conveniently forgotten about, yet speaks volumes. And people wonder why the Jews were booted out of 80+ lands over 100 times?

    Do you work for George Soros by any chance?


    "While the country was busy with gay hatred, the Jews recognized them as human beings."
     
    There was no gay hatred. There was a natural repulsiveness towards the act of man performing sexual acts with another man. It was a man, behaving as a woman, which in every culture this world has ever known has been shunned.
    The Jews saw homosexuals as a convenient tool to hammer away at the heterosexual majority. Cultural Marxist techniques, of cultural destruction, through infiltration of society was already well under way by that time. As with everything that has happened in the west that is utterly demolishing it, the Jew has been slap bang at the centre, like pebble dropped into water, the ripples moved outwards.
    This has been how the Jew has destroyed nations - it has created organizations for minorities. It has given them a voice to speak out against the indigenous majority. It has created legislation to protect them, which has grown arms and legs, resulting in the oppression of the majority by the minority. One simple check and you will see that the Jews have been behind the legalization of homosexuality throughout the west. Anything that undermines, white, Christian, heterosexual culture you can guarantee that Jews are 99.9% behind it.

    "Jews fight for the rights of transgender people. Have you ever met a transgender child? Anyone on this site?"
     
    Yes they do, there's no denying that. Just as they fought for the legalization of homosexuality, they have now succeeded with transgenderism and the next milestone is pedophilia. Transgenderism IS a mental health issue, there are document galore, on the internet of respected psychiatrists who have done study after study to see this. Any parents who actively promote the transitioning of a child into the opposite sex is guilty of child abuse and court action should be taken. If I went to the doctor and said "My hand isn't mine. It shouldn't be there. It doesn't belong to me..." he'd put me in for psychiatric evaluation and I'd find myself in a mental asylum. But no, not for men who want to do the same with their penises and testacles. Nope, that's perfectly ok.

    And worse, on the transgender issue. Just as we have the insanity of the Social Justice Warrior movement, we now have the transgender males who are now calling heterosexual males bigots because they won't have relationships with men who have transgendered into women (they can't do so, it's an impossibility). Yes, they are now forcing their insanity upon heterosexual men and calling them out as, wait for it - haters!
    Transgender males are homosexuals, who want to have relationships with heterosexual males. They are incapable of seeing the illogic here, but nonetheless truly, in their heart of hearts think they are women. I wonder how long before people start wishing their heads to be transitioned onto the bodies of animals? Won't be too far in the future, if Jews have a say.

    "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" - as the saying goes. But it's not so more 'good' intentions but intentions made to look good but with ulterior motives. You have to either be incredibly gullible and ignorant of reality to believe that what's happened over the last 60 years, to western society has been good, or you are a promoter of its destruction, with a smile of glee.

    The msm put a picture of a dead baby on a beach, a clearly doctored image, in order to get the attention they sought. And they most certainly did. Every woman and effeminate, illogal man was crying out to let all immigrants into Europe. And in due process, wages aren't going up due to competition for jobs. House prices are soring along with rent, due to high housing demand. Unemployment has risen. Slave labour has returned through 'volunteering'. Indigenous culture is being murdered deemed offensive to immigrants. Civil unrest is growing, resulting in governments bringing in police states and showing great prejudice to the indigenous for the immigrants. Assaults, rapes and murders have increased which has now made London far more dangerous to live in than New York.......

    But there will always be people like you who comes out to speak for the Jew. "It's not the Jew, I tell you! They're good people. They just want to help everyone. They just want to be accepted.....blah....blah....blah...." I will finish with a well know Russian saying about the Jew:


    "The Jew will tell you how persecuted he is but will never tell you why."
     
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  89. denjae says:
    @jilles dykstra
    There are quite a few of such things:
    - FDR as war monger
    - Wilson, the same
    - Wilson's Eighteen Points, to dismember the Habsburg empire
    - Churchill, war criminal and war monger
    - the Liberty
    - Sept 11
    - the Kennedy murder
    - the Kelly 'suicide'
    - the Turing 'suicide'
    - the Sikorski 'accident'
    - the Dieppe raid
    - the Ton Kin Gulf 'incident'
    - the Hess suicide
    - the Diana 'accident'
    - the Palme murder
    - the Barschel 'suicide'
    - the 'accidental' Anna Lyndh murder
    - the Hammarskjöld 'accident'
    - Oradour sur Glane massacre
    There is more, but I think this is enough.

    Please elaborate, regarding

    - the Dieppe raid

    as being one of those “such things”

    Thanks in advance

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  90. @art guerrilla
    ok, guess i am a tommytard, even though i never heard of the guy until this recent dustup...
    .
    AS A MATTER OF PRINCIPLE, WHY would ANYONE DEFEND the 'right' (?) of the state to limit reporting, media coverage, etc, as the author is doing in his zeal to get robinson ? ? ?
    .
    AS IF limiting both reporting about, and meta reporting about the subsequent arrest of robinson was supposed to be a 'good thing'... IF that is what the author is proposing, then i don't care whatever else he says, he is no friend of freedom...
    .
    stupid brits and euros, they have NEVER gotten free speech 'right', and now that we are following their 'lead', we are losing ours with nary a whimper... in fact, short-sighted wannabe dictators of both the left and reich screech full-throatedly for *their* censorship to be done by the state... fucktards...
    .
    without free speech, all other rights crumble for lack of voice...
    .
    anyone for any reason at any time who espouses censorship is NO defender of freedom, PERIOD...

    Absolutely correct.
    Part of the problem I have with the article, is that his “reporting” has different information than other sources.
    One report states that he was arrested for “breach of the peace”, yet was transferred to another court and sentenced for “contempt of court”. If true, he was denied due process.
    One report says the jury was deliberating, another says the court was being recalled for sentencing.
    If the jury was deliberating, Robinson’s reciting of information in the public domain will have no effect on the jury. If the court was being recalled for sentencing, nothing Robinson said could have affected their already made decision.
    That only leaves the judge. If the judge thinks Robinson’s reading of information in the public domain, rather than the facts of the case, will influence his sentencing, then the judge should be removed from the bench.
    On top of that, there is a gag order on Robinson’s proceedings. No one really knows what he was charged with, what he was convicted of, and what evidence, for or against, was presented.
    I don’t care who Robinson is or what he stands for. The issue is that Britain is acting like a police state, and Robinson has been made a poitical prisoner. This is a continuation of the war against native Britons. More than a decade ago, Nick Griffin was prosecuted for commenting on the grooming gangs in Rotherham (an open secret) during a private meeting, the police state failed in getting a conviction. The solution of course, is changing or perverting the law to ensure convictions against all who are opposed to the destruction of their homeland.

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    Absolutely correct in turn.

    The problem therefore which your analysis identifies comes down to something very simple:

    In modern Jew-controlled, Moslem-vocal multi-cultural Britain, "ruled over" by a set of treacherous, utterly worthless liberal-left elite minority lovers and racist anti-White haters, where all previous norms of native White behaviour have been uprooted and overturned by the requirements of multi-culturalism, it is increasingly difficult to see any proof of either a Police force, a national judicial system OR a professional legal establishment itself being routinely required to ANSWER to the law - in a court of law - for it's actions. Nowhere is there any politician, public official or respected, independent national activist inside or outside the press/media business, with the will to point out the shameless, disgusting hypocrisy and self-rule of the organs of State - even on the massively sensitive and important topic of Free Speech vs. Jew-driven gagging by bribed law. I have no memory of ever once in my life seeing the head of the judicial establishment or the British Police force - NOT the Home Secretary - being interrogated actually in Court for the actions of his organisation over such a matter as the flouting of due process in the Robinson case - and thousands of others every bit as corrupt and scandalous.

    Increasingly over the decades since the war - courtesy entirely of Jewish undermining activism and blind, seething hatred of every aspect of White society - the UK has gradually abandoned every one of it's previous hard-won principles of open, public due process, free-speech-based debate, equality before the Law, etc. - and caved in under a mountain of stinking, suffocating, society-destroying Jewish filth known as cultural Marxism. As Tobias Langdon has pointed out here in masterful prose:

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/04/24/in-the-land-of-lies-seeing-saying-and-pseudotopia/

    The effect has been that the few stout upholders of righteousness and truth see the way the wind is blowing, and are faced with the choice of standing up publicly for all they feel and know to be right - and dying of a disgraced, ruined life and destroyed dreams - or treachery/sellout, to a living death of self-hatred and despair as they watch all they most feared come to pass.

    Though no Jew or Moslem in the western world actually has the intelligence to see it, this cannot - and will not - continue. Not, above all, in the West - the ancient cradle of peace, freedom, progress, culture and social harmony.

    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

    - John F. Kennedy
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  91. @Concerned Man
    Say what you want about the Jews. They genuinely care about the downtrodden, the needy and the frightened.

    I once read a story of a Jewish shul in San Francisco whose membership was exclusively gay men. This was at the height of the AIDS crisis. While the country was busy with gay hatred, the Jews recognized them as human beings. A group of frightened men who could be none other than who they were. They were not expected to change. Change was not possible. Nor were they all Jews.

    Jews are more accepting than you think. They seem otherwise because they are a very guarded people. They scrutinize and observe. Better be safe than sorry.

    Jews fight for the rights of transgender people. Have you ever met a transgender child? Anyone on this site?

    A close family member of mine is a transgender child. A young boy who acts like a girl. Perhaps, deep down, he is a girl. I do not know. Whatever he/she is experiencing, it's real.

    It's not a sexual condition. He is only 8 years old. An innocent child. A smart, artistic and instrumental child. However, one day it will be a sexual issue. And I know the rate of drug abuse and suicide is high among transgender teens. This makes me sad.

    But the Jews fight like hell for the dignity of people like my cousin. It isn't something done to gain political points. The concern is real. It's genuine.

    Don't you understand? The Jews are a potent force. They are potent because they are genuine. They are successful because they work together with other genuine souls.

    We may disagree with the Jews. But we cannot deny them. They have earned a place among our elect. They carry a very heavy burden. They assume massive responsibility. They care much more than you think.

    The Jews support for the groups you cite is out of self interest. It is part of the plan to remove Christian morals and ethics and substitute Noahide laws.

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    Supporting the rights of homosexuals and trans people is not an attempt to destroy Christian morality and ethics. It's an acknowledgment of their lives, a preservation of their dignity.

    Christians don't have to stop being Christians because gay and trans lives are being publicly recognized.

    You don't see the Amish or Mormons collapsing.

    If other Christian denominations are losing members, it's a lack of recruitment.

    I don't agree with using gay and trans people as political props. It's a form of virtue signaling that even gay people detest. However, I do agree with their right to freedom and to live safe from physical destruction.
    , @Curmudgeon
    Love the sinner, hate the sin.
    Defending their "rights" to sin, is defending the sin.

    Do pedophiles have rights? How about those who engage in bestiality? They are illegal today just as homosexuality was 50 years ago. The only thing that has changed for homosexuality is the law, which changed after a vote of a minority of psychiatrists at a convention where no scientific proof was presented.

    If the law changes for pedophilia and bestiality to say it is a "right" does it follow that Christian "morality and ethics" have to change? What comes after that, murder being declared legal? Would murder be consistent Christian "morality and ethics"?
    The horseshit that has been force fed to people will not end.

    I recognize homosexuals, transgenders, etc for what they are: mentally ill. For that I am sympathetic. The reason for that illness - chemical, genetic, or something else - is irrelevant.
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  92. Wizup says:
    @Peter Frost
    Tommy Robinson is doing activism in the real world under his own name. Very few people are doing that, especially in the UK. Could he be doing better? Undoubtedly. Is that a reason for not supporting him? No. We have to play with the cards we're dealt. In any case, some of the commenters here would lose even if they had a winning hand.

    The same point applies to The Rebel Media. Do I like all of the stuff they put out? No, but I like a lot of it, and that's much more than what I can say for the traditional media or for Canadian society in general. When I look at a list of Rebel Media videos, I feel like I have a choice. I don't get that feeling when I go into a Canadian voting booth.

    Tommy Robinson, like The Rebel Media, is a net plus ... in a world where the average person, out of apathy, indoctrination, or cowardice, is a net minus.

    Actually, ‘Tommy Robinson’ has used various pseudonyms in his political career. His real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, but this is hardly a ‘man of the people’ handle…

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    Double barrel surnames are no longer a mark of aristocracy. Quite the opposite. They are usually the mark of unmarried parents. Of baby mommas and absent fathers.
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  93. @bjondo
    Not a rabbi. Not a Jew.
    Jesus came to evil central
    home of Satan and his spawn to save mankind.
    War for 2000 years.
    Judaizers infiltrated and continue today.

    Marcion and others tried to clean Bible.
    Great majority of early Christians wanted nothing to do with OT.

    The Jew Testament calls Jesus a Rabbi many times. It also calls him a Jew. And it very specifically states “THE JEW FIRST.” (Romans 1:16) Can’t de-jew that.

    Tried to “clean Bible?” It is certainly a filthy “dunghill.” Does that mean throwing parts out? Why not throw the whole damned thing out?

    Well, except for Ecclesiastes, it’s not so bad, mainly because it contradicts most everything Rabbi Jesus and Jew Paul spewed.

    “Ecclesiastes is the only charming book ever written by a Jew.” -Ernest Renan (1823–1892)

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    Romans 1:16 King James Version (KJV): For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    But the greatest of all reformers of the depraved religion of his own country, was Jesus of Nazareth. Abstracting what is really his from the rubbish in which it is buried, easily distinguished by its lustre from the dross of his biographers, and as separable from that as the diamond from the dunghill, we have the outlines of a system of the most sublime morality which has ever fallen from the lips of man. --- Jefferson To W. Short, Oct. 31, 1819

    In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to
    separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills. –- Jefferson To John Adams, 1804

    The dunghill would be the OT. The depraved religion would be Judaism. THE JEW FIRST in Romans not calling Jesus a Jew.

    "...what is really his from the rubbish in which it is buried", Marcion did this. The Judaized parts and the OT were tossed as rubbish.

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  94. @Wally
    Indeed, Israel has representation in the US Govt, but no taxation.
    In fact the Zionist parasites grab billion upon billions of taxpayer money every year.

    Check out this long list:

    How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet
    http://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/?highlight=wikipedia
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/
    ‘Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security’
    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs/
    Fact:
    every US taxpayers ‘loan’ that “that shitty little country” has received has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously “forgives/forgave” all these huge debts.
    Not to mention:
    The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion
    http://www.wrmea.org/2003-june/the-costs-to-american-taxpayers-of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
    The Zionist attempt to control language.
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY
    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf
    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses
    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.709014
    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media
    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook

    Giving all your shekels to Jews is Biblical.

    “For if the Gullible Goyim have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.” (Romans 15:27)

    Keep working that overtime, Slaves of JewChrist! After you’ve worked yourself to death, it’ll all be worth it in Jewheaven, as a Bride of JewChrist! ( Think you’re going to dodge consummating that marriage, boy?)

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  95. @Verymuchalive
    Oops, that should have been YORKSHIRE.

    Wrong nonetheless.

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  96. @Curmudgeon
    The Jews support for the groups you cite is out of self interest. It is part of the plan to remove Christian morals and ethics and substitute Noahide laws.

    Supporting the rights of homosexuals and trans people is not an attempt to destroy Christian morality and ethics. It’s an acknowledgment of their lives, a preservation of their dignity.

    Christians don’t have to stop being Christians because gay and trans lives are being publicly recognized.

    You don’t see the Amish or Mormons collapsing.

    If other Christian denominations are losing members, it’s a lack of recruitment.

    I don’t agree with using gay and trans people as political props. It’s a form of virtue signaling that even gay people detest. However, I do agree with their right to freedom and to live safe from physical destruction.

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  97. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Wizup
    Actually, 'Tommy Robinson' has used various pseudonyms in his political career. His real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, but this is hardly a 'man of the people' handle...

    Double barrel surnames are no longer a mark of aristocracy. Quite the opposite. They are usually the mark of unmarried parents. Of baby mommas and absent fathers.

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  98. bjondo says:
    @Echoes of History
    The Jew Testament calls Jesus a Rabbi many times. It also calls him a Jew. And it very specifically states "THE JEW FIRST." (Romans 1:16) Can't de-jew that.

    Tried to "clean Bible?" It is certainly a filthy "dunghill." Does that mean throwing parts out? Why not throw the whole damned thing out?

    Well, except for Ecclesiastes, it's not so bad, mainly because it contradicts most everything Rabbi Jesus and Jew Paul spewed.

    "Ecclesiastes is the only charming book ever written by a Jew." -Ernest Renan (1823–1892)

    Romans 1:16 King James Version (KJV): For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    But the greatest of all reformers of the depraved religion of his own country, was Jesus of Nazareth. Abstracting what is really his from the rubbish in which it is buried, easily distinguished by its lustre from the dross of his biographers, and as separable from that as the diamond from the dunghill, we have the outlines of a system of the most sublime morality which has ever fallen from the lips of man. — Jefferson To W. Short, Oct. 31, 1819

    In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to
    separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills. –- Jefferson To John Adams, 1804

    The dunghill would be the OT. The depraved religion would be Judaism. THE JEW FIRST in Romans not calling Jesus a Jew.

    “…what is really his from the rubbish in which it is buried”, Marcion did this. The Judaized parts and the OT were tossed as rubbish.

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    Trying to de-Jew the Jew Christ is like trying to de-Chinese Confucius. It cannot be done, not even by a Christ'tard as desperate as you. But you do have the right idea about the Jew First Christ. The foreigner needs "tossed as rubbish."

    The depraved Jew Paul, writer of most of the Jew Testament, also needs tossed for following that depraved religion Judaism. Why would you read the scribblings of a Jewish cocksucker? Paul sucked dick on an young adult traveling companion as an Old Testament Jewish mohel, which he openly admitted to doing in Acts 16:3.

    The whole Bible needs tossed as rubbish by your standard. It cannot be de-Jewed, any more than you can de-dung a fouled bowl of punch.

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  99. @bjondo
    Romans 1:16 King James Version (KJV): For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    But the greatest of all reformers of the depraved religion of his own country, was Jesus of Nazareth. Abstracting what is really his from the rubbish in which it is buried, easily distinguished by its lustre from the dross of his biographers, and as separable from that as the diamond from the dunghill, we have the outlines of a system of the most sublime morality which has ever fallen from the lips of man. --- Jefferson To W. Short, Oct. 31, 1819

    In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to
    separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills. –- Jefferson To John Adams, 1804

    The dunghill would be the OT. The depraved religion would be Judaism. THE JEW FIRST in Romans not calling Jesus a Jew.

    "...what is really his from the rubbish in which it is buried", Marcion did this. The Judaized parts and the OT were tossed as rubbish.

    Trying to de-Jew the Jew Christ is like trying to de-Chinese Confucius. It cannot be done, not even by a Christ’tard as desperate as you. But you do have the right idea about the Jew First Christ. The foreigner needs “tossed as rubbish.”

    The depraved Jew Paul, writer of most of the Jew Testament, also needs tossed for following that depraved religion Judaism. Why would you read the scribblings of a Jewish cocksucker? Paul sucked dick on an young adult traveling companion as an Old Testament Jewish mohel, which he openly admitted to doing in Acts 16:3.

    The whole Bible needs tossed as rubbish by your standard. It cannot be de-Jewed, any more than you can de-dung a fouled bowl of punch.

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    Ok, you are Jew. Enough time wasted.
    , @anarchyst
    I partially agree with you. The "Old Testament" should not be a part of Christianity, as it became "null and void" with the birth of Jesus, the Christ, who was himself an Essene, and not part of the dominant Pharasaic Talmudic culture of the day. Including the Old Testament in Christianity was a big mistake. The pre-Vatican II Catholic Church DID place the blame for Christ's crucifixion on the jews. To this day, jews DO have a vitriolic hatred of Jesus Christ and Christians and are not afraid to "let it show", especially in Israel, where Christians are routinely spat upon and insulted while Christian buildings are routinely adorned with anti-Christian graffiti.
    That being said:
    The “beginning of the end” of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants who were involved in the "modernization" of the Catholic Church.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their "dirty work" for them...
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back" against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize pre-Vatican II principles.
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  100. Hu Mi Yu says:
    @jilles dykstra
    It is difficult to know what someone thinks, though in this world there are a lot of mind readers.
    I'm not one of them.
    So, for example, Trump still puzzles me.

    Even FDR puzzles me.
    Though I'm convinced he was brought into politics to wage war I do not know if this was just what he had agreed to do or that he himself wanted it.
    In his last speech to congress he did not completely follow the text that was prepared for him, the text, I suppose, as was customary, he had agreed to.
    Sherwood, one of the speech writers, describes the procedure.
    What was not in the prepared text is that he said, according to Sherwood, 'that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters from rabbi's'.
    FDR was therefore not, in my opinion, a puppet.

    Why jews behave as they do, that is to say a few thousand, my guess, leading jews, I do not know.
    Is it fear 'unless we control the world w're finished', or is it 'we got away with much, let us try this'.
    Or 'christians treated us badly for 2000 years, therefore we are right in trying to destroy christianity' ?

    Even FDR puzzles me.
    Though I’m convinced he was brought into politics to wage war I do not know if this was just what he had agreed to do or that he himself wanted it.
    In his last speech to congress he did not completely follow the text that was prepared for him, the text, I suppose, as was customary, he had agreed to.
    Sherwood, one of the speech writers, describes the procedure.
    What was not in the prepared text is that he said, according to Sherwood, ‘that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters from rabbi’s’.
    FDR was therefore not, in my opinion, a puppet.

    My grandmother had a connection with Eleanor Roosevelt that began in 1930. She often spoke about it. There was considerable tension between Eleanor and the President. Eleanor went to a boarding school in England where the girls all had to speak French. She was a fanatical supporter of those two countries. It is well known that Franklin was a paraplegic. His wife physically dominated him to the point of abuse. Supposedly she sometimes shot him up with heroin and locked him in a closet to keep him from rolling into important meetings she held in the White House. During his second term he was pushed out of the government altogether with the help of an actor originally hired to campaign for him and read his speeches. That is why they kept changing vice presidents: very few people knew the president well enough to be sure he was missing. Among Roosevelt’s children only the two oldest knew of the deception.

    Franklin was anti-war; Eleanor was pro-war. She liked to see men fighting and spilling blood.

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  101. Harbinger says:
    @Concerned Man
    Say what you want about the Jews. They genuinely care about the downtrodden, the needy and the frightened.

    I once read a story of a Jewish shul in San Francisco whose membership was exclusively gay men. This was at the height of the AIDS crisis. While the country was busy with gay hatred, the Jews recognized them as human beings. A group of frightened men who could be none other than who they were. They were not expected to change. Change was not possible. Nor were they all Jews.

    Jews are more accepting than you think. They seem otherwise because they are a very guarded people. They scrutinize and observe. Better be safe than sorry.

    Jews fight for the rights of transgender people. Have you ever met a transgender child? Anyone on this site?

    A close family member of mine is a transgender child. A young boy who acts like a girl. Perhaps, deep down, he is a girl. I do not know. Whatever he/she is experiencing, it's real.

    It's not a sexual condition. He is only 8 years old. An innocent child. A smart, artistic and instrumental child. However, one day it will be a sexual issue. And I know the rate of drug abuse and suicide is high among transgender teens. This makes me sad.

    But the Jews fight like hell for the dignity of people like my cousin. It isn't something done to gain political points. The concern is real. It's genuine.

    Don't you understand? The Jews are a potent force. They are potent because they are genuine. They are successful because they work together with other genuine souls.

    We may disagree with the Jews. But we cannot deny them. They have earned a place among our elect. They carry a very heavy burden. They assume massive responsibility. They care much more than you think.

    A ‘Concerned man’? I doubt it. More like an incredibly ignorant man, a shabbos goyim or a hasbarat troll. Either, causes great concern to the non Jewish population of this world.

    I really don’t have the time to dissect your reply fully, as I am off out very shortly, but…

    You come across very much as a woman, full of emotion and absolutely no logic whatsoever

    “Say what you want about the Jews. They genuinely care about the downtrodden, the needy and the frightened.”

    I would very, very, very much beg to differ. Israel is full of Jews and they don’t give two hoots about the regular massacre of Palestinians. Neither, for that matter do the majority of Jews outside of Israel. And I hate to bring up Barbara Specter but the name says it all. Then again, we could also mention Noel Ignatiev, a professor at Massachusetts College of Art whose continued lectures about the abolishing of whiteness (white genocide). “Ah, but Noel doesn’t represent all Jews” you may say, I never stated he did, but the very fact that he was not only never ridiculed by the msm or Jewish organizations for his despicable views, he kept his position in the college until he retired. Can you imagine what Jewish groups would have done had a white man, said the same of Jewishness or blackness? He’d have been out of the door before he could have said six million Ku Klux Klan members! Not only that, but he would have been character assassinated, never allowed to work in his field ever again. The ADL and/or the JDL would have seen to that, along with the SPLC.

    Not only are the protocols evidence of the demolition of white people and the destruction of their homelands, but long before that was this letter from the Chief Rabbi of Spain to the Sanhedrin’s Grand Satraps of Constantinople Another article of time conveniently forgotten about, yet speaks volumes. And people wonder why the Jews were booted out of 80+ lands over 100 times?

    Do you work for George Soros by any chance?

    “While the country was busy with gay hatred, the Jews recognized them as human beings.”

    There was no gay hatred. There was a natural repulsiveness towards the act of man performing sexual acts with another man. It was a man, behaving as a woman, which in every culture this world has ever known has been shunned.
    The Jews saw homosexuals as a convenient tool to hammer away at the heterosexual majority. Cultural Marxist techniques, of cultural destruction, through infiltration of society was already well under way by that time. As with everything that has happened in the west that is utterly demolishing it, the Jew has been slap bang at the centre, like pebble dropped into water, the ripples moved outwards.
    This has been how the Jew has destroyed nations – it has created organizations for minorities. It has given them a voice to speak out against the indigenous majority. It has created legislation to protect them, which has grown arms and legs, resulting in the oppression of the majority by the minority. One simple check and you will see that the Jews have been behind the legalization of homosexuality throughout the west. Anything that undermines, white, Christian, heterosexual culture you can guarantee that Jews are 99.9% behind it.

    “Jews fight for the rights of transgender people. Have you ever met a transgender child? Anyone on this site?”

    Yes they do, there’s no denying that. Just as they fought for the legalization of homosexuality, they have now succeeded with transgenderism and the next milestone is pedophilia. Transgenderism IS a mental health issue, there are document galore, on the internet of respected psychiatrists who have done study after study to see this. Any parents who actively promote the transitioning of a child into the opposite sex is guilty of child abuse and court action should be taken. If I went to the doctor and said “My hand isn’t mine. It shouldn’t be there. It doesn’t belong to me…” he’d put me in for psychiatric evaluation and I’d find myself in a mental asylum. But no, not for men who want to do the same with their penises and testacles. Nope, that’s perfectly ok.

    And worse, on the transgender issue. Just as we have the insanity of the Social Justice Warrior movement, we now have the transgender males who are now calling heterosexual males bigots because they won’t have relationships with men who have transgendered into women (they can’t do so, it’s an impossibility). Yes, they are now forcing their insanity upon heterosexual men and calling them out as, wait for it – haters!
    Transgender males are homosexuals, who want to have relationships with heterosexual males. They are incapable of seeing the illogic here, but nonetheless truly, in their heart of hearts think they are women. I wonder how long before people start wishing their heads to be transitioned onto the bodies of animals? Won’t be too far in the future, if Jews have a say.

    “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” – as the saying goes. But it’s not so more ‘good’ intentions but intentions made to look good but with ulterior motives. You have to either be incredibly gullible and ignorant of reality to believe that what’s happened over the last 60 years, to western society has been good, or you are a promoter of its destruction, with a smile of glee.

    The msm put a picture of a dead baby on a beach, a clearly doctored image, in order to get the attention they sought. And they most certainly did. Every woman and effeminate, illogal man was crying out to let all immigrants into Europe. And in due process, wages aren’t going up due to competition for jobs. House prices are soring along with rent, due to high housing demand. Unemployment has risen. Slave labour has returned through ‘volunteering’. Indigenous culture is being murdered deemed offensive to immigrants. Civil unrest is growing, resulting in governments bringing in police states and showing great prejudice to the indigenous for the immigrants. Assaults, rapes and murders have increased which has now made London far more dangerous to live in than New York…….

    But there will always be people like you who comes out to speak for the Jew. “It’s not the Jew, I tell you! They’re good people. They just want to help everyone. They just want to be accepted…..blah….blah….blah….” I will finish with a well know Russian saying about the Jew:

    “The Jew will tell you how persecuted he is but will never tell you why.”

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    You are obsessed with Jews.

    I don't see much decline in Christian populations. But I don't speak for everywhere. I'm judging by what my eyes can see. I live in a well to do town with church parking lots filled every weekend. My town is full of white families who are thriving. In fact, I find it very fair to assume similar communities are abundant throughout the United States. Furthermore, it is white people who I see everywhere living splendidly. Whether or not they were raised in Christian families, I do not know. I assume many were. Possibly the majority.

    As for white people who aren't doing too well financially, blaming the Jews is ridiculous. There are personal reasons, technological and structural changes, industrial obsoleteness and more that affect large aggregates of people. Unemployment is terrible. But it isn't the Jew who is to blame.

    As for that Jewish professor advocating for an end to whiteness, he is despicable. He is also I might add revealing his jealousy. White people are clearly the dominant group. We are the majority, the best educated and have the most money. We live in the most beautiful places. In fact, it's the Jews who move into our communities. And we accept them. Our children are friends. They play sports together and hang out.

    As for Jews disparaging Christianity, many on this site, including you, are disparaging Jews.

    You are aware of the interconnectedness among wealthy and high ranking Christians and Jews across the West. They share many of the same goals. While I agree there exists hyper-Jews, primarily within the the Democratic party who refuse collaborating with white men, that is to their own detriment, not ours. Minority coalitions mean very little when a large percentage of your constituents are more concerned with getting laid instead of getting paid. Also, drug use and incarceration is commonplace among blacks and Hispanics. Anyway, the Democratic party has problems. Not least of which is it's hyper-Jews.

    I will conclude by saying Jewish concern with gay and trans rights is genuine. There are many gay Jews.

    As for allowing a child to assert his or her trans identity, your reply that it's a form of child abuse, shows your complete inexperience in dealing with such a child. The child doesn't have a choice. I understand it's very perplexing to you. Imagine for a minute how the parents feel.. You can't force a boy to play football when his heart heart and mind wants to be a cheerleader.

    These are complicated children. It's very difficult knowing the lives they face for acting out who they truly are. Let's help them by acknowledging them as our equals.

    The true pressure they face will be as adults. From idiots like you.
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  102. bjondo says:
    @Echoes of History
    Trying to de-Jew the Jew Christ is like trying to de-Chinese Confucius. It cannot be done, not even by a Christ'tard as desperate as you. But you do have the right idea about the Jew First Christ. The foreigner needs "tossed as rubbish."

    The depraved Jew Paul, writer of most of the Jew Testament, also needs tossed for following that depraved religion Judaism. Why would you read the scribblings of a Jewish cocksucker? Paul sucked dick on an young adult traveling companion as an Old Testament Jewish mohel, which he openly admitted to doing in Acts 16:3.

    The whole Bible needs tossed as rubbish by your standard. It cannot be de-Jewed, any more than you can de-dung a fouled bowl of punch.

    Ok, you are Jew. Enough time wasted.

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    Having done genetic testing, I'm most certainly not Jew.

    However, you are acting just like the Jew Paul, thinking that telling a noble lie to protect your Jewish cult is a grand idea.

    "For if the truth of God hath more abounded by MY LIE unto his glory, why yet am I also adjudged a sinner?" (Romans 3:7)
     
    But hey, at least you can claim you're following a long line of Jewish tradition in telling lies, right? :)

    "There were a lot of people in the ancient world who thought that lying could serve a greater good.”

    -Dr. Bart D. Ehrman, author of Forged: Writing in the Name of God–Why the Bible’s Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are
     
    Not surprising from a line who openly brags about being descended from a professional Deceiver, Jacob.
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  103. anarchyst says:
    @Echoes of History
    Trying to de-Jew the Jew Christ is like trying to de-Chinese Confucius. It cannot be done, not even by a Christ'tard as desperate as you. But you do have the right idea about the Jew First Christ. The foreigner needs "tossed as rubbish."

    The depraved Jew Paul, writer of most of the Jew Testament, also needs tossed for following that depraved religion Judaism. Why would you read the scribblings of a Jewish cocksucker? Paul sucked dick on an young adult traveling companion as an Old Testament Jewish mohel, which he openly admitted to doing in Acts 16:3.

    The whole Bible needs tossed as rubbish by your standard. It cannot be de-Jewed, any more than you can de-dung a fouled bowl of punch.

    I partially agree with you. The “Old Testament” should not be a part of Christianity, as it became “null and void” with the birth of Jesus, the Christ, who was himself an Essene, and not part of the dominant Pharasaic Talmudic culture of the day. Including the Old Testament in Christianity was a big mistake. The pre-Vatican II Catholic Church DID place the blame for Christ’s crucifixion on the jews. To this day, jews DO have a vitriolic hatred of Jesus Christ and Christians and are not afraid to “let it show”, especially in Israel, where Christians are routinely spat upon and insulted while Christian buildings are routinely adorned with anti-Christian graffiti.
    That being said:
    The “beginning of the end” of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants who were involved in the “modernization” of the Catholic Church.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize pre-Vatican II principles.

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    There is no way the Tanakh can be cleaved from the Jew Testament, the Tanakh is too extensively quoted and referenced, even by the Jesus character.

    Christianity is a Jewish cult, and has to be constantly jerry-rigged and finagled to make it work for European culture, and the finagling and jerry-rigging are never high quality enough to do the job.

    You're yet another to bring up the "vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus." Why should a European concern himself about Jewish infighting? If the Jews killed another Jew, what does it matter if there is one less Jew? Pilate is the only noble character in the Jew Testament, as I have noted above in another reply above.
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  104. A pretty good piece, gives credit where due, a makes good points, including making valid criticisms which should be obvious to an open-minded observer of Tommy Robinson over the past few years.
    TR is undoubtedly courageous, far more so than many of the pen-pushers who vilify him, but he is also well and truly in the pocket of The Joos and their sidekicks, the Multi-Kulti, the FemiNazi and the LGBT wierdos, all of whom have so corrupted and enervated The West for decades as proselytisers and beneficiaries and of PC . Do not forget these groups made joint cause with Muslims for decades, it’s only now that the rose-tinted glasses have slipped from their faces as they sweat in terror of what Islam wants to do to THEM
    However, mayhap he is not so gullible as seems:
    History abounds with examples of those who unsuccessfully wage war on two or more fronts simultaneously, especially those who did not, at least temporarily, utilise an enemy as an ally.

    Would like to write more, but dinner awaits!
    BTW, credit to

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  105. PS. to my previous.Strictly speaking, there is some credence in the claim that he has jeopardised trials and given grounds for appeal, but the actual trial part was over, only the sentencing remained, and Hizzoner is supposed to be above being influenced by the mob.
    But it is very much a free speech issue, as the media have breached the letter of the law many times before, and not been prosecuted on “public interest” grounds. Contrast the police and establishment contortions taken to AVOID prosecuting Muslim or reporting on Muslim (and establishment) paedophiles with the Zeal with which they targeted Robinson, and even worse(ten years ago) the zeal with which they twice tried to stitch-up former BNP leader Nick Griffin who first flagged up the issue when he read out the parts of The Koran “justifying” rape of the wives and daughters of those defeated by jihadi.
    For quoting their prophet he was twice charged with hate speech

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  106. @Harbinger
    A 'Concerned man'? I doubt it. More like an incredibly ignorant man, a shabbos goyim or a hasbarat troll. Either, causes great concern to the non Jewish population of this world.

    I really don't have the time to dissect your reply fully, as I am off out very shortly, but...

    You come across very much as a woman, full of emotion and absolutely no logic whatsoever


    "Say what you want about the Jews. They genuinely care about the downtrodden, the needy and the frightened."
     
    I would very, very, very much beg to differ. Israel is full of Jews and they don't give two hoots about the regular massacre of Palestinians. Neither, for that matter do the majority of Jews outside of Israel. And I hate to bring up Barbara Specter but the name says it all. Then again, we could also mention Noel Ignatiev, a professor at Massachusetts College of Art whose continued lectures about the abolishing of whiteness (white genocide). "Ah, but Noel doesn't represent all Jews" you may say, I never stated he did, but the very fact that he was not only never ridiculed by the msm or Jewish organizations for his despicable views, he kept his position in the college until he retired. Can you imagine what Jewish groups would have done had a white man, said the same of Jewishness or blackness? He'd have been out of the door before he could have said six million Ku Klux Klan members! Not only that, but he would have been character assassinated, never allowed to work in his field ever again. The ADL and/or the JDL would have seen to that, along with the SPLC.

    Not only are the protocols evidence of the demolition of white people and the destruction of their homelands, but long before that was this letter from the Chief Rabbi of Spain to the Sanhedrin's Grand Satraps of Constantinople Another article of time conveniently forgotten about, yet speaks volumes. And people wonder why the Jews were booted out of 80+ lands over 100 times?

    Do you work for George Soros by any chance?


    "While the country was busy with gay hatred, the Jews recognized them as human beings."
     
    There was no gay hatred. There was a natural repulsiveness towards the act of man performing sexual acts with another man. It was a man, behaving as a woman, which in every culture this world has ever known has been shunned.
    The Jews saw homosexuals as a convenient tool to hammer away at the heterosexual majority. Cultural Marxist techniques, of cultural destruction, through infiltration of society was already well under way by that time. As with everything that has happened in the west that is utterly demolishing it, the Jew has been slap bang at the centre, like pebble dropped into water, the ripples moved outwards.
    This has been how the Jew has destroyed nations - it has created organizations for minorities. It has given them a voice to speak out against the indigenous majority. It has created legislation to protect them, which has grown arms and legs, resulting in the oppression of the majority by the minority. One simple check and you will see that the Jews have been behind the legalization of homosexuality throughout the west. Anything that undermines, white, Christian, heterosexual culture you can guarantee that Jews are 99.9% behind it.

    "Jews fight for the rights of transgender people. Have you ever met a transgender child? Anyone on this site?"
     
    Yes they do, there's no denying that. Just as they fought for the legalization of homosexuality, they have now succeeded with transgenderism and the next milestone is pedophilia. Transgenderism IS a mental health issue, there are document galore, on the internet of respected psychiatrists who have done study after study to see this. Any parents who actively promote the transitioning of a child into the opposite sex is guilty of child abuse and court action should be taken. If I went to the doctor and said "My hand isn't mine. It shouldn't be there. It doesn't belong to me..." he'd put me in for psychiatric evaluation and I'd find myself in a mental asylum. But no, not for men who want to do the same with their penises and testacles. Nope, that's perfectly ok.

    And worse, on the transgender issue. Just as we have the insanity of the Social Justice Warrior movement, we now have the transgender males who are now calling heterosexual males bigots because they won't have relationships with men who have transgendered into women (they can't do so, it's an impossibility). Yes, they are now forcing their insanity upon heterosexual men and calling them out as, wait for it - haters!
    Transgender males are homosexuals, who want to have relationships with heterosexual males. They are incapable of seeing the illogic here, but nonetheless truly, in their heart of hearts think they are women. I wonder how long before people start wishing their heads to be transitioned onto the bodies of animals? Won't be too far in the future, if Jews have a say.

    "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" - as the saying goes. But it's not so more 'good' intentions but intentions made to look good but with ulterior motives. You have to either be incredibly gullible and ignorant of reality to believe that what's happened over the last 60 years, to western society has been good, or you are a promoter of its destruction, with a smile of glee.

    The msm put a picture of a dead baby on a beach, a clearly doctored image, in order to get the attention they sought. And they most certainly did. Every woman and effeminate, illogal man was crying out to let all immigrants into Europe. And in due process, wages aren't going up due to competition for jobs. House prices are soring along with rent, due to high housing demand. Unemployment has risen. Slave labour has returned through 'volunteering'. Indigenous culture is being murdered deemed offensive to immigrants. Civil unrest is growing, resulting in governments bringing in police states and showing great prejudice to the indigenous for the immigrants. Assaults, rapes and murders have increased which has now made London far more dangerous to live in than New York.......

    But there will always be people like you who comes out to speak for the Jew. "It's not the Jew, I tell you! They're good people. They just want to help everyone. They just want to be accepted.....blah....blah....blah...." I will finish with a well know Russian saying about the Jew:


    "The Jew will tell you how persecuted he is but will never tell you why."
     

    You are obsessed with Jews.

    I don’t see much decline in Christian populations. But I don’t speak for everywhere. I’m judging by what my eyes can see. I live in a well to do town with church parking lots filled every weekend. My town is full of white families who are thriving. In fact, I find it very fair to assume similar communities are abundant throughout the United States. Furthermore, it is white people who I see everywhere living splendidly. Whether or not they were raised in Christian families, I do not know. I assume many were. Possibly the majority.

    As for white people who aren’t doing too well financially, blaming the Jews is ridiculous. There are personal reasons, technological and structural changes, industrial obsoleteness and more that affect large aggregates of people. Unemployment is terrible. But it isn’t the Jew who is to blame.

    As for that Jewish professor advocating for an end to whiteness, he is despicable. He is also I might add revealing his jealousy. White people are clearly the dominant group. We are the majority, the best educated and have the most money. We live in the most beautiful places. In fact, it’s the Jews who move into our communities. And we accept them. Our children are friends. They play sports together and hang out.

    As for Jews disparaging Christianity, many on this site, including you, are disparaging Jews.

    You are aware of the interconnectedness among wealthy and high ranking Christians and Jews across the West. They share many of the same goals. While I agree there exists hyper-Jews, primarily within the the Democratic party who refuse collaborating with white men, that is to their own detriment, not ours. Minority coalitions mean very little when a large percentage of your constituents are more concerned with getting laid instead of getting paid. Also, drug use and incarceration is commonplace among blacks and Hispanics. Anyway, the Democratic party has problems. Not least of which is it’s hyper-Jews.

    I will conclude by saying Jewish concern with gay and trans rights is genuine. There are many gay Jews.

    As for allowing a child to assert his or her trans identity, your reply that it’s a form of child abuse, shows your complete inexperience in dealing with such a child. The child doesn’t have a choice. I understand it’s very perplexing to you. Imagine for a minute how the parents feel.. You can’t force a boy to play football when his heart heart and mind wants to be a cheerleader.

    These are complicated children. It’s very difficult knowing the lives they face for acting out who they truly are. Let’s help them by acknowledging them as our equals.

    The true pressure they face will be as adults. From idiots like you.

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    You are, as stated, either an incredibly ignorant goyim, a willing Shabbos goyim or a hasbarat troll. There's not really anything else I need to state on the subject as all has been stated. I'm most certainly not 'Jew obsessed' simply 'Jew aware', as my ancestors were who booted them out of their country. Now they're back and our country is in moral and economic decline.

    Transgenderism is a mental illness.

    John Hopkins former chief of psychiatry: Being transgender is a ‘mental disorder . . . biologically impossible’

    The pressure that transgenders face, as they get older is a 20 times more likelihood of committing suicide than normal people, simply because of their problem to accept the sex that they are and deep psychological problems, created by their clear insanity. I avoid them like the plague. Their incredible selfishness in demanding people dismiss their sanity in order to accept their insanity will never be tolerated. The lunatics have taken over the asylum and you are their press chief.

    My last reply on this topic.

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  107. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    Jewish baiting is good sport . Jewish have created problems for them in US and UK Jews would one day pay for it here in US and UK. But the US -UK entity also have an explanation to offer to the people throughout the SE Asia ME and Sub Saharan Africa. It will be painful It will be like the elites leaving Rome and moving to the water and swamps of Venice to avoid the fate of total annihilation.

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    Sub-saharan Africans should be thanking Europeans

    http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/colonialism-did-not-make-africa-poor/
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  108. Harbinger says:
    @Concerned Man
    You are obsessed with Jews.

    I don't see much decline in Christian populations. But I don't speak for everywhere. I'm judging by what my eyes can see. I live in a well to do town with church parking lots filled every weekend. My town is full of white families who are thriving. In fact, I find it very fair to assume similar communities are abundant throughout the United States. Furthermore, it is white people who I see everywhere living splendidly. Whether or not they were raised in Christian families, I do not know. I assume many were. Possibly the majority.

    As for white people who aren't doing too well financially, blaming the Jews is ridiculous. There are personal reasons, technological and structural changes, industrial obsoleteness and more that affect large aggregates of people. Unemployment is terrible. But it isn't the Jew who is to blame.

    As for that Jewish professor advocating for an end to whiteness, he is despicable. He is also I might add revealing his jealousy. White people are clearly the dominant group. We are the majority, the best educated and have the most money. We live in the most beautiful places. In fact, it's the Jews who move into our communities. And we accept them. Our children are friends. They play sports together and hang out.

    As for Jews disparaging Christianity, many on this site, including you, are disparaging Jews.

    You are aware of the interconnectedness among wealthy and high ranking Christians and Jews across the West. They share many of the same goals. While I agree there exists hyper-Jews, primarily within the the Democratic party who refuse collaborating with white men, that is to their own detriment, not ours. Minority coalitions mean very little when a large percentage of your constituents are more concerned with getting laid instead of getting paid. Also, drug use and incarceration is commonplace among blacks and Hispanics. Anyway, the Democratic party has problems. Not least of which is it's hyper-Jews.

    I will conclude by saying Jewish concern with gay and trans rights is genuine. There are many gay Jews.

    As for allowing a child to assert his or her trans identity, your reply that it's a form of child abuse, shows your complete inexperience in dealing with such a child. The child doesn't have a choice. I understand it's very perplexing to you. Imagine for a minute how the parents feel.. You can't force a boy to play football when his heart heart and mind wants to be a cheerleader.

    These are complicated children. It's very difficult knowing the lives they face for acting out who they truly are. Let's help them by acknowledging them as our equals.

    The true pressure they face will be as adults. From idiots like you.

    You are, as stated, either an incredibly ignorant goyim, a willing Shabbos goyim or a hasbarat troll. There’s not really anything else I need to state on the subject as all has been stated. I’m most certainly not ‘Jew obsessed’ simply ‘Jew aware’, as my ancestors were who booted them out of their country. Now they’re back and our country is in moral and economic decline.

    Transgenderism is a mental illness.

    John Hopkins former chief of psychiatry: Being transgender is a ‘mental disorder . . . biologically impossible’

    The pressure that transgenders face, as they get older is a 20 times more likelihood of committing suicide than normal people, simply because of their problem to accept the sex that they are and deep psychological problems, created by their clear insanity. I avoid them like the plague. Their incredible selfishness in demanding people dismiss their sanity in order to accept their insanity will never be tolerated. The lunatics have taken over the asylum and you are their press chief.

    My last reply on this topic.

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    Do you know any Jewish people? If you do, why not start by kicking them out of "your" country?

    You couldn't manage to get the most irritating Jew to move off your street.

    As if your feelings are widespread and paramount.

    You will die with none of your dreams come true.

    Jews will be everywhere!!
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  109. @Harbinger
    You are, as stated, either an incredibly ignorant goyim, a willing Shabbos goyim or a hasbarat troll. There's not really anything else I need to state on the subject as all has been stated. I'm most certainly not 'Jew obsessed' simply 'Jew aware', as my ancestors were who booted them out of their country. Now they're back and our country is in moral and economic decline.

    Transgenderism is a mental illness.

    John Hopkins former chief of psychiatry: Being transgender is a ‘mental disorder . . . biologically impossible’

    The pressure that transgenders face, as they get older is a 20 times more likelihood of committing suicide than normal people, simply because of their problem to accept the sex that they are and deep psychological problems, created by their clear insanity. I avoid them like the plague. Their incredible selfishness in demanding people dismiss their sanity in order to accept their insanity will never be tolerated. The lunatics have taken over the asylum and you are their press chief.

    My last reply on this topic.

    Do you know any Jewish people? If you do, why not start by kicking them out of “your” country?

    You couldn’t manage to get the most irritating Jew to move off your street.

    As if your feelings are widespread and paramount.

    You will die with none of your dreams come true.

    Jews will be everywhere!!

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  110. DFH says:
    @anon
    Jewish baiting is good sport . Jewish have created problems for them in US and UK Jews would one day pay for it here in US and UK. But the US -UK entity also have an explanation to offer to the people throughout the SE Asia ME and Sub Saharan Africa. It will be painful It will be like the elites leaving Rome and moving to the water and swamps of Venice to avoid the fate of total annihilation.
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  111. @bjondo
    Ok, you are Jew. Enough time wasted.

    Having done genetic testing, I’m most certainly not Jew.

    However, you are acting just like the Jew Paul, thinking that telling a noble lie to protect your Jewish cult is a grand idea.

    “For if the truth of God hath more abounded by MY LIE unto his glory, why yet am I also adjudged a sinner?” (Romans 3:7)

    But hey, at least you can claim you’re following a long line of Jewish tradition in telling lies, right? :)

    “There were a lot of people in the ancient world who thought that lying could serve a greater good.”

    -Dr. Bart D. Ehrman, author of Forged: Writing in the Name of God–Why the Bible’s Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are

    Not surprising from a line who openly brags about being descended from a professional Deceiver, Jacob.

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  112. @anarchyst
    I partially agree with you. The "Old Testament" should not be a part of Christianity, as it became "null and void" with the birth of Jesus, the Christ, who was himself an Essene, and not part of the dominant Pharasaic Talmudic culture of the day. Including the Old Testament in Christianity was a big mistake. The pre-Vatican II Catholic Church DID place the blame for Christ's crucifixion on the jews. To this day, jews DO have a vitriolic hatred of Jesus Christ and Christians and are not afraid to "let it show", especially in Israel, where Christians are routinely spat upon and insulted while Christian buildings are routinely adorned with anti-Christian graffiti.
    That being said:
    The “beginning of the end” of traditional Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants who were involved in the "modernization" of the Catholic Church.
    Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ and Christianity which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their "dirty work" for them...
    Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
    Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back" against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
    In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
    By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
    One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
    It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize pre-Vatican II principles.

    There is no way the Tanakh can be cleaved from the Jew Testament, the Tanakh is too extensively quoted and referenced, even by the Jesus character.

    Christianity is a Jewish cult, and has to be constantly jerry-rigged and finagled to make it work for European culture, and the finagling and jerry-rigging are never high quality enough to do the job.

    You’re yet another to bring up the “vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus.” Why should a European concern himself about Jewish infighting? If the Jews killed another Jew, what does it matter if there is one less Jew? Pilate is the only noble character in the Jew Testament, as I have noted above in another reply above.

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  113. This article was very well put together.it certainely sheds light on the inner working’s and ongoing agenda’s by the most unscrupulous people around in society. What is needed today more than ever is,old school journalism,rigorous truthful,impartial and above all else uncensored from the controlling master’s with their own devious preset agenda’s.

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    Ironically, this article very much proves that the majority of knife crime, if not all, in London is committed by blacks. However, thanks to Muslim mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, himself a Zionist puppet, police are no longer allowed to stop and search blacks and other minorities in London. It's 'racist' you know.
    Now, I'm not in favour of the police and never have been. I therefore disagree in stop and search policing, however, when one has an alien population within your society then you have two choices in order that your indigenous people survive; you either stop and search them OR you expel them from your lands. Neither will ever happen.

    This is Pavlovian programming of society. They are making it so the indigenous don't know what to do. If they are attacked, the police may arrest the suspect, but the Criminal Prosecution Service won't take it to court and if the fight back and injure their attacker, there's a high chance they'll be prosecuted and the attacker left off. And just as Pavlov's puppies would be beaten when given food and patted when given food, they would eventually just lie on their backs in total surrender to their master, not knowing what on earth he was going to do, this is exactly what's happening to the people. They are terrified to speak out and defend themselves for fear of prosecution.

    And to top this story off, here's a classic example of what I'm speaking about:

    A woman is arrested after asking MET Police why muslims are allowed to break the law

    I was attacked in London in 2005. I was stabbed around 8 times in the back, bottled on my arm and head, hit with bricks, wooden and metal poles from a nearby skip, by a gang of black and Muslim youths (predominantly Muslim). They even had DNA evidence of one of the attackers. The police knew who they were. They were arrested and questioned but released. They eventually called me in for a suspect identification parade 5 months after the attack, due to their lawyers stalling and putting forward human rights and racism bollox. There was no reporting in the local papers and therefore nothing national. No MSM coverage whatsoever. Had it been a black or a Muslim attacked by whites, it would have been all over the local media, the national and international media. And to make matters worse the Criminal Prosecution Service threw the case out of court with the police passing this off as an assault. It seems that being stabbed multiple times, if you're white, is no longer attempted murder.
    To give one of the detectives in charge some respect, he came up to me afterwards and said: "I'm sorry, but due to government regulations, we are not allowed to upset the Muslim community in light of Blair's war in Iraq. There was no chance any of these people were going to be prosecuted."

    People say: "You should have sued the police...blah....blah....blah" This isn't America and who would have believed me over the police, especially what the detective had stated at the end? He would simply have denied saying it to keep his job.

    Like I stated, the people are being conditioned to not take any matters into their own hands. There is no freedom in the UK. It is a 100% bona fide police state!

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  115. Harbinger says:
    @Iberiano
    Wow.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/shocking-moment-furious-cyclist-pulls-massive-zombie-knife-on-car-in-south-london-a3852896.html

    Ironically, this article very much proves that the majority of knife crime, if not all, in London is committed by blacks. However, thanks to Muslim mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, himself a Zionist puppet, police are no longer allowed to stop and search blacks and other minorities in London. It’s ‘racist’ you know.
    Now, I’m not in favour of the police and never have been. I therefore disagree in stop and search policing, however, when one has an alien population within your society then you have two choices in order that your indigenous people survive; you either stop and search them OR you expel them from your lands. Neither will ever happen.

    This is Pavlovian programming of society. They are making it so the indigenous don’t know what to do. If they are attacked, the police may arrest the suspect, but the Criminal Prosecution Service won’t take it to court and if the fight back and injure their attacker, there’s a high chance they’ll be prosecuted and the attacker left off. And just as Pavlov’s puppies would be beaten when given food and patted when given food, they would eventually just lie on their backs in total surrender to their master, not knowing what on earth he was going to do, this is exactly what’s happening to the people. They are terrified to speak out and defend themselves for fear of prosecution.

    And to top this story off, here’s a classic example of what I’m speaking about:

    A woman is arrested after asking MET Police why muslims are allowed to break the law

    I was attacked in London in 2005. I was stabbed around 8 times in the back, bottled on my arm and head, hit with bricks, wooden and metal poles from a nearby skip, by a gang of black and Muslim youths (predominantly Muslim). They even had DNA evidence of one of the attackers. The police knew who they were. They were arrested and questioned but released. They eventually called me in for a suspect identification parade 5 months after the attack, due to their lawyers stalling and putting forward human rights and racism bollox. There was no reporting in the local papers and therefore nothing national. No MSM coverage whatsoever. Had it been a black or a Muslim attacked by whites, it would have been all over the local media, the national and international media. And to make matters worse the Criminal Prosecution Service threw the case out of court with the police passing this off as an assault. It seems that being stabbed multiple times, if you’re white, is no longer attempted murder.
    To give one of the detectives in charge some respect, he came up to me afterwards and said: “I’m sorry, but due to government regulations, we are not allowed to upset the Muslim community in light of Blair’s war in Iraq. There was no chance any of these people were going to be prosecuted.”

    People say: “You should have sued the police…blah….blah….blah” This isn’t America and who would have believed me over the police, especially what the detective had stated at the end? He would simply have denied saying it to keep his job.

    Like I stated, the people are being conditioned to not take any matters into their own hands. There is no freedom in the UK. It is a 100% bona fide police state!

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  116. @Curmudgeon
    The Jews support for the groups you cite is out of self interest. It is part of the plan to remove Christian morals and ethics and substitute Noahide laws.

    Love the sinner, hate the sin.
    Defending their “rights” to sin, is defending the sin.

    Do pedophiles have rights? How about those who engage in bestiality? They are illegal today just as homosexuality was 50 years ago. The only thing that has changed for homosexuality is the law, which changed after a vote of a minority of psychiatrists at a convention where no scientific proof was presented.

    If the law changes for pedophilia and bestiality to say it is a “right” does it follow that Christian “morality and ethics” have to change? What comes after that, murder being declared legal? Would murder be consistent Christian “morality and ethics”?
    The horseshit that has been force fed to people will not end.

    I recognize homosexuals, transgenders, etc for what they are: mentally ill. For that I am sympathetic. The reason for that illness – chemical, genetic, or something else – is irrelevant.

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  117. Harbinger says:

    Quite.

    “The only thing that has changed for homosexuality is the law, which changed after a vote of a minority of psychiatrists at a convention where no scientific proof was presented.”

    And this happened because prominent, powerful, (((individuals))) working for even more powerful (((individuals))) told these psychiatrists that if they did not change their stance on homosexuality, all funding for their organizations would come to a halt. They were blackmailed and subsequently sold out. You can’t blame them really. They were making a living and it was their profession. If they didn’t do it, no doubt those (((individuals))) would have found another way around it.

    “If the law changes for pedophilia and bestiality to say it is a “right” does it follow that Christian “morality and ethics” have to change?”

    I should imagine that they will, however, what is more important is what General Cornwallis stated to George Washington at the ‘surrender’ of the British at Yorktown (Oct. 17, 1781):

    “Your churches will be used to teach the Jew’s religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.”

    I should imagine Christianity be outlawed and made a capital offense. And unlike some people on this forum, Christianity is NOT a Jew’s religion, far from it.

    Homosexuality was legalized all in order to bring about the _’people are born that way’_ which will open the doors to pedophilia and public acceptance in them being _’born that way.’_
    You really have to be a bit stupid if you can’t see where all this is going and sadly, the majority most certainly are.

    “I recognize homosexuals, transgenders, etc for what they are: mentally ill. For that I am sympathetic. The reason for that illness – chemical, genetic, or something else – is irrelevant.”

    Completely agree. Man choosing to partner with man and woman, woman shows serious mental health issues going on, but when one looks are people in general today, the sane within are clearly a minority.

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  119. @Tyrion 2

    Of course I didn’t say you “argued against free speech”, I pointed out that you chose to attack the victims instead of focussing on the perpetrators and the wrongness of what they are doing (as you have chosen to do here again)
     
    Um..pot...kettle...

    Do you not see how my response was to your post and this article which did precisely what you accuse me of?


    Though clearly there are wealthy and powerful people who think these people are sufficiently important to go to considerable effort to prevent them from speaking freely.
     
    The real explanation is that those powerful people are cruel and self-indulgent and enjoy causing trouble for these self-important losers and know that there'll be no popular backlash to their amusement...because no-one cares about their incredibly unlikeable victims.

    Of course your point above is a prime example of the self-aggrandising delusional thinking that makes such groups so unlikeable.


    Second, your assertion that “hate speech crimes are prosecuted daily” as a supposed justification for the charging of Chabloz is absurd. As I previously challenged you, do feel free to point out any cases you know of where people were convicted for saying offensive, hateful things about Christianity or about white people, since your claim is that these are just “protections available to all”. The vast majority of hate speech speechcrime cases (for which there has certainly been a dramatic increase in the past few years, thanks in large part to activist lobbies such as the jewish ones behind these prosecutions) involve direct personal abuse and/or threats of violence, not the expression of abstract political opinions as in the cases of Turner and Chabloz
     
    I wasn't justifying it. I was merely saying that it is ordinary. Which it is. You're being disingenuous again.

    Also your supposed quote of me is not a quote of me at all. You just made that up...again...very disingenuous.

    ...so...to sum up...you attacked me for a what you actually did....you engaged in a bit of self-aggrandiding nonsense and then you made up a position of mine (again) and made up a quote.

    Perhaps try harder?

    Wow, talk about some grade-A Hebrew doublespeak.

    You absolutely did argue against free speech, when you claimed that legal punishment for upsetting Jews is merely “protection” (cry out in pain as you strike us, much?) “available to everyone,” which you know full it’s not. Randal pointed this out, you made no attempt to address his point and acted as though that gave your own dishonesty validity. Seriously, Hitler could have written a whole chapter on your style of “debate.” Oh, wait…

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  120. @Verymuchalive
    Unzie, old boy, you've been supporting the wrong Cricket Team.
    We need a lot more david YORKCHIRE, and a lot less john DERBYSHIRE.

    Bravo..! John “I don’t have the balls to admit the Jewish / Israel problem” out for a duck… !

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  121. @Curmudgeon
    Absolutely correct.
    Part of the problem I have with the article, is that his "reporting" has different information than other sources.
    One report states that he was arrested for "breach of the peace", yet was transferred to another court and sentenced for "contempt of court". If true, he was denied due process.
    One report says the jury was deliberating, another says the court was being recalled for sentencing.
    If the jury was deliberating, Robinson's reciting of information in the public domain will have no effect on the jury. If the court was being recalled for sentencing, nothing Robinson said could have affected their already made decision.
    That only leaves the judge. If the judge thinks Robinson's reading of information in the public domain, rather than the facts of the case, will influence his sentencing, then the judge should be removed from the bench.
    On top of that, there is a gag order on Robinson's proceedings. No one really knows what he was charged with, what he was convicted of, and what evidence, for or against, was presented.
    I don't care who Robinson is or what he stands for. The issue is that Britain is acting like a police state, and Robinson has been made a poitical prisoner. This is a continuation of the war against native Britons. More than a decade ago, Nick Griffin was prosecuted for commenting on the grooming gangs in Rotherham (an open secret) during a private meeting, the police state failed in getting a conviction. The solution of course, is changing or perverting the law to ensure convictions against all who are opposed to the destruction of their homeland.

    Absolutely correct in turn.

    The problem therefore which your analysis identifies comes down to something very simple:

    In modern Jew-controlled, Moslem-vocal multi-cultural Britain, “ruled over” by a set of treacherous, utterly worthless liberal-left elite minority lovers and racist anti-White haters, where all previous norms of native White behaviour have been uprooted and overturned by the requirements of multi-culturalism, it is increasingly difficult to see any proof of either a Police force, a national judicial system OR a professional legal establishment itself being routinely required to ANSWER to the law – in a court of law – for it’s actions. Nowhere is there any politician, public official or respected, independent national activist inside or outside the press/media business, with the will to point out the shameless, disgusting hypocrisy and self-rule of the organs of State – even on the massively sensitive and important topic of Free Speech vs. Jew-driven gagging by bribed law. I have no memory of ever once in my life seeing the head of the judicial establishment or the British Police force – NOT the Home Secretary – being interrogated actually in Court for the actions of his organisation over such a matter as the flouting of due process in the Robinson case – and thousands of others every bit as corrupt and scandalous.

    Increasingly over the decades since the war – courtesy entirely of Jewish undermining activism and blind, seething hatred of every aspect of White society – the UK has gradually abandoned every one of it’s previous hard-won principles of open, public due process, free-speech-based debate, equality before the Law, etc. – and caved in under a mountain of stinking, suffocating, society-destroying Jewish filth known as cultural Marxism. As Tobias Langdon has pointed out here in masterful prose:

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/04/24/in-the-land-of-lies-seeing-saying-and-pseudotopia/

    The effect has been that the few stout upholders of righteousness and truth see the way the wind is blowing, and are faced with the choice of standing up publicly for all they feel and know to be right – and dying of a disgraced, ruined life and destroyed dreams – or treachery/sellout, to a living death of self-hatred and despair as they watch all they most feared come to pass.

    Though no Jew or Moslem in the western world actually has the intelligence to see it, this cannot – and will not – continue. Not, above all, in the West – the ancient cradle of peace, freedom, progress, culture and social harmony.

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”

    – John F. Kennedy

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  122. Vojkan says:
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    Reading articles like this I always wonder why things must be made so complicated.

    Jewish power exists, no doubt about it, just now Dutch minister of foreign afffairs Blok at the UN urges Russia to play by the rules of international law.
    If the Dutch government does this in the MH17 affair, in my opinion not.
    But Blok did not speak about Israel following internatioal rules.
    'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others'.

    Then the problems with Muslims.
    Muslims do have a different culture, no doubt about it.
    Men are important, women and children less.
    Separation between religion and state, alien to them, as it was long ago with us.
    The western terror in Muslim areas and countries is a factor in why they migrate to the enemy.
    Does anyone think they so admire our terror that they want to adapt to our culture ?

    I would add that given their impotence against Western terror in their countries, for many muslims their behaviour in Western countries is a way to exact revenge for what is being inflicted upon them. Whether we like or dislike Islam, and given where I come from I very much doubt I can be suspected of being an islamophile, Western elites are the most guilty party and Western people have empowered Western elites. As for Yaxley-Lennon, he’s what the French call a “guignol”.

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  123. @Crimson2
    I should have known that this was going to be a "This racist isn't racist enough!" post. This is The Unz Review, after all.

    Other websites are available.

    You’re welcome.

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  124. @Harbinger

    "Clearly the concept of service is beyond you."
     
    Quite the contrary, I know all about it. Having grown up on a strict regime of sports and martial arts, I spent that time also as an Army Cadet while in school. Seven years to be precise and ending up representing my country, in the Cadet shooting competitions, as a Marksman first class. I then spent a brief time training in the Royal Marine Reserves. I was thankful to my elder brother who managed to persuade me not to go into the Royal Marines, as I was intent on doing a Potential Officer's course, when I was around 20. I would certainly have succeeded.

    I got older and wiser. I understood how older people manipulate the young, remove their conscience and turn them into killing machines, young men, psychologically destroyed, all so that bankers can make more money, blood money. And what happens to the psychologically young men? Well, they have very hard time fitting in in Civvy street. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder is all the rage now, the horrors as it was known in WW1.

    Anyway, I digress.... The first armed forces were created for the sole purpose of invasion NOT defense. Higher ranking authority and strict discipline was there to break the moral code of the men within. They did not want thinking men, capable of making rational decisions, on what is right and wrong. Good God no. They wanted men, to control, to break and to turn into machines, who knew that the top brass did the thinking and they did the killing. In fact, one could say that the armed forces run on a parallel with freemasonry - "A good freemason doesn't ask why, when given a command. He just does it."

    Again you ignore my Dante example within my last reply, failing to see that Dante very well knew that he had killed, not in the name of God. He realized that some bishop could not absolve him of his sins. You fail to see that this very much expresses any man who kills under the orders of another. Thou Shalt Not Kill is there for a reason and there is a HUGE difference in killing to defend your home and your family to invading a foreign nation, murdering its people all in the name of some false political ideology called democracy, nothing more than the first steps on the ladder to communism and tyranny.

    It is pointless debating with you Tyrion. You are unable to refute anything I have put to you. You blindly stand by the ridiculous concept of military adventurism is necessary for civilization. This stupidity is nothing more than building blocks for tyranny, banker tyranny, Jewish banker tyranny, for quite simply, were there no Jews, in positions of power, authority and influence within the west, we'd all be getting on incredibly well with our neighbours, north, east, west and south and there would be no need to bomb the crap out of Islam, all for the sake of Zionism.

    This is my last reply to you. If you haven't got it by now, you never will.

    I’ve got it though – and thank you so much for your sterling efforts. No matter how much you try, you will never make the wilfully blind (or criminally stupid) left-liberal, cultural Marxist, snowflake race traitors see the hard truth.

    In case you’re not already on it, try looking through the Occidental Observer – especially, in the massive Author List, the essays/ articles of Andrew Joyce (specialist in the JQ) and Tobias Langdon (state of Britain under Jewry and it’s army of Black thugs and street scum)

    The reason ? I’m happier than I ever thought possible, these last few years, to have indestructible proof that there ARE many, many others – smart, educated, balanced, massively-intelligent people – who see the truth through the lies, and are fighting hard and giving no quarter to take our world back from the brink of Jew insanity and mass slaughter. Now at last I can also see a better White-only Western future, through what was before simply a godawful, satanically-evil Jew-controlled present.

    When the war for the survival of our country, history and race is finally over and the dust has settled, those political liars, brainwashed fools, money-grabbing race traitors and White-hating racist Zionist filth who have brought civil war to the peaceful streets of England for the first time in more than 350 years will hang from the lampposts. I can only hope and pray I am there to see it.

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    "Now at last I can also see a better White-only Western future.......When the war for the survival of our country, history and race is finally over and the dust has settled, those political liars, brainwashed fools, money-grabbing race traitors and White-hating racist Zionist filth who have brought civil war to the peaceful streets of England for the first time in more than 350 years will hang from the lampposts."
     
    I'm sorry but I truly do not see your optimism.
    I am a realist, not an optimist. An optimist, while well meaning is a surrealist.

    While I agree there are many people who are awake, understand that these people are the VAST minority within society. Sites, such as this, Occidental Observer (which I do peruse now and again) and similar ones are effectively 'hate sites' to the politicians who wish to imprison people for viewing them.

    Why do I not see a bright future? Well, it's simply numbers. When you look at UK society, before WW2 it was overwhelmingly a nationalist one. On one side there were the national socialists, in the middle the liberals and on the right the conservative, libertarian and anarcho nationalists. Everyone had their own society and people at heart. The only difference, of course were the left wing views of more state control over society with less and less control by the state on the right.
    And then, of course, society drastically changed when the immigrants started piling in, as legislation was created to effectively stop any fightback at what was the beginning of the colonization of their own country, by alien peoples.
    Now let's move on nearly 70 years and successive indoctrination of school children, has drawn them closer to the state and alienated them to family and freedom. Schooling is 100% opposite of what it was pre war. State schools are nothing more than state brain laundries. Children are taught cultural Marxism, to hate white expression and successes, including their own civilization and worse race! With every generation born the number of Marxists within grows drastically, to the point that today, there's no doubt that by the time children have entered and left college, you can guarantee that at least 85% are ardent socialists and fanatical haters of anything right wing.

    So.....

    The left will continue to fight the right, while the minorities grow to become the majority and then it's good night Vienna Dave.

    Figures show that by 2070, there will be more Muslims in the UK than the indigenous, courtesy of immigration but mostly far higher procreation rates. This, however is utterly irrelevant. As stated, the indigenous are battling one another. The vote is divided. Last election turn out was 75% (as we are told, although I believe smaller) and all the whites voted for left, right, centre or independent. Muslims, on the other hand will simply be told by their Imams to support the Sharia Islamic party when their population becomes 20% or so of the population. Muslims WILL vote en mass as a tribal block. So if 75% of the vote say, was by whites and the vote is split, then the Islamic party will win. If this happens you can guarantee that they will merge the mosque with the state, remove common law and install Sharia over it. I would also imagine they'd end all voting after that, removing the Houses of Parliament as Imams would rule each city up and down the breadth of the UK.

    You will say; "but if they do that, there would be riots" of course there would be, but by that time there would be far more Muslims in the police and armed forces. Added to that more and more immigrants from Muslim nations would be piling in continuously. Added to that it would be the same throughout Europe. Whites would have either got the hell out and moved to Eastern Europe/Russia or converted to Islam. Muslims do not adhere to western values. They adhere to Islam and the instruction of Muhammad is simple - spread Islam throughout the world and create the ummah.

    So, the bottom line Dave is, that the Islamization of the west is 100% inevitable. Zionists know this and hence why they have been behind every legislation that has brought them here and given them privileges over the indigenous. They know the only way to get Jews into Israel and out of Europe, where they're happy to stay and parasite off of the goyim is to make Europe and the rest of the west, absolutely unbearable for them to live in. Islam forbids usury.

    I will say of course, nothing is inevitable, but ONLY if certain implementations within society are met. If Britain and Europe repatriated 98% of all Muslims, inputted a strict 2 child per family policy, knocked down every Mosque and never allowed freedom of Islam in the west, along with no positions of authority or influence by Muslims, then Islamization would end faster than poo out a duck's behind. By making living in western society unbearable for Muslims to live in, the 2% would eventually pack their bags and move to their own lands.
    However, this will never happen for obvious reasons. By the time the left wakes up (and they will) they will be greatly outnumbered and those whites there on the right will hate them with a vengeance so they won't get their support either.

    Islamization of the west is inevitable Dave. It's not that it can't be stopped. It won't for obvious reasons.
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  125. @unpc downunder
    I really wish Anglo-American nationalists would cut the conspiratorial BS and just take people on face value (unless they have real evidence of corrupt activity, which they rarely do). Robinson has never claimed to be an ethno-nationalist. He is simply a right-wing liberal who is opposed to Islamisation because Islam is hostile to western liberal values. As a right-wing liberal he is also likely to oppose white nationalism since white nationalism is a collectivist ideology and he is an individualist. People do actually have ideological positions which influence their actions. Not everything people do is pre-determined by tribal loyalties or opportunities for personal gain. As a formerly prosperous trades contractor he certainly hasn't benefited financially from being a high profile critic of Islamic immigration.

    European alt-righters like Martin Sellner and Tom Sunic don't get bogged down with conspiratorial thinking and focus instead on positively promoting their own ideas. Why can't the Anglo-American alt right grow up and do the same?

    The conspiratorial mentality of British and American nationalists is a big turn off to most voters.

    In fact, Tommy Robinson even read Martin Sellner’s brilliant speech on ethno-nationalism and free speech at speakers corner when Martin Sellner was detained and then banned from the UK. While my personal views lie closer to that of Martin Sellner, I’m not going to throw Tommy Robinson under the bus because he doesn’t tick off all the boxes. Let’s not forget that in Europe Islamic immigration is a bigger slice of the great replacement than it is in the US and elsewhere.

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    "While my personal views lie closer to that of Martin Sellner, I’m not going to throw Tommy Robinson under the bus because he doesn’t tick off all the boxes. Let’s not forget that in Europe Islamic immigration is a bigger slice of the great replacement than it is in the US and elsewhere."
     
    He supports multiculturalism, immigration (just not Islamic) and LGBTQ.
    Forgetting his support for the aforementioned for the moment, the overwhelming fact that he is a Zionist is ample reason to not support him and throw him under the bus!
    Were it not FOR Zionism, we WOULDN'T be in the position we're in now! Zionism is 100% responsible for not only the wars, the mass immigration, the refugees, the destruction of the west and degrading of our society, BUT the very cause behind the subject matter OF Tommy's crusade!

    Any nationalist, worth their salt, should NOT show any support for Tommy Robinson. You either stand your ground and have principles or you don't bother at all. He campaigns to not wanting 'radical' Muslims in the UK and yet, keeps quiet on WHO is behind the radicalization and why! Never once has he spoken out against the treatment of Palestinians. Never once has he attacked the unlawful wars in the middle east. He's a Zionist. He's doing his job. He's a pied piper and has a hell of a lot of rats now following him.
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  126. @unpc downunder
    I really wish Anglo-American nationalists would cut the conspiratorial BS and just take people on face value (unless they have real evidence of corrupt activity, which they rarely do). Robinson has never claimed to be an ethno-nationalist. He is simply a right-wing liberal who is opposed to Islamisation because Islam is hostile to western liberal values. As a right-wing liberal he is also likely to oppose white nationalism since white nationalism is a collectivist ideology and he is an individualist. People do actually have ideological positions which influence their actions. Not everything people do is pre-determined by tribal loyalties or opportunities for personal gain. As a formerly prosperous trades contractor he certainly hasn't benefited financially from being a high profile critic of Islamic immigration.

    European alt-righters like Martin Sellner and Tom Sunic don't get bogged down with conspiratorial thinking and focus instead on positively promoting their own ideas. Why can't the Anglo-American alt right grow up and do the same?

    The conspiratorial mentality of British and American nationalists is a big turn off to most voters.

    Well said. I was thinking that I would have to write something to counter that nonsense but you’ve done it for me. Thanks.

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  127. Lucy says:
    @Harbinger

    "Where are the people protesting the granny being locked up for questioning the holohoax?"
     
    Think about this for a minute?
    If it was found out that the holocaust was a lie and the figures greatly exaggerated what do you think the impact would be on Jewry. They would not only be called out and eventually seen as the compulsive liars that they are, but their financial empire would instantly collapse. All of the shrines built (holocaust museums), throughout the west would be demolished. All funding for Israel would stop. All funds from Germany would have to be paid back. Investigations would start all over as Jews were kicked out of positions of power, such as into the USS Liberty, 9/11, 7/7 etc. Israel would become a rogue state, most certainly with the west uniting to remove it permanently, dissolving the Balfour Declaration. Jews would not be safe in any western city, especially with no longer having control of the msm and academia, the truth will be told of the past. Plans for white genocide, behind the mass immigration of Muslims and Africans to destroy the indigenous.....

    The bottom line is a simple one, if people started to protest Ursula Haverbeck being incarcerated and the truth started to out, it would bring about a REAL holocaust of Jews, not the phony 6million, but instead the 15 million worldwide, where it would literally be open hunting season on them, 24/7.
    Jews are absolutely terrified that the truth will come out about their deceit throughout history. It is why they have total control of academia, the church and the msm (among many other institutions) because these two are the most important for the indoctrination and brainwashing of the public. This is why they are rapidly seeking control of the internet and pushing through as much anti freedom legislation in the form of anti terrorism legislation in order to completely control the narrative and destroy any chance of people finding out the truth. They know that if there is one slip up, their game is over for good.

    A great comment, Harbinger. Alas, most people are so inoctrinated with the (((tribal))) version of truth that they do not ponder over who has orchestrated the mass immigration of racial aliens into the White nations.

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  128. Harbinger says:
    @Dave Bowman
    I've got it though - and thank you so much for your sterling efforts. No matter how much you try, you will never make the wilfully blind (or criminally stupid) left-liberal, cultural Marxist, snowflake race traitors see the hard truth.

    In case you're not already on it, try looking through the Occidental Observer - especially, in the massive Author List, the essays/ articles of Andrew Joyce (specialist in the JQ) and Tobias Langdon (state of Britain under Jewry and it's army of Black thugs and street scum)

    The reason ? I'm happier than I ever thought possible, these last few years, to have indestructible proof that there ARE many, many others - smart, educated, balanced, massively-intelligent people - who see the truth through the lies, and are fighting hard and giving no quarter to take our world back from the brink of Jew insanity and mass slaughter. Now at last I can also see a better White-only Western future, through what was before simply a godawful, satanically-evil Jew-controlled present.

    When the war for the survival of our country, history and race is finally over and the dust has settled, those political liars, brainwashed fools, money-grabbing race traitors and White-hating racist Zionist filth who have brought civil war to the peaceful streets of England for the first time in more than 350 years will hang from the lampposts. I can only hope and pray I am there to see it.

    “Now at last I can also see a better White-only Western future…….When the war for the survival of our country, history and race is finally over and the dust has settled, those political liars, brainwashed fools, money-grabbing race traitors and White-hating racist Zionist filth who have brought civil war to the peaceful streets of England for the first time in more than 350 years will hang from the lampposts.”

    I’m sorry but I truly do not see your optimism.
    I am a realist, not an optimist. An optimist, while well meaning is a surrealist.

    While I agree there are many people who are awake, understand that these people are the VAST minority within society. Sites, such as this, Occidental Observer (which I do peruse now and again) and similar ones are effectively ‘hate sites’ to the politicians who wish to imprison people for viewing them.

    Why do I not see a bright future? Well, it’s simply numbers. When you look at UK society, before WW2 it was overwhelmingly a nationalist one. On one side there were the national socialists, in the middle the liberals and on the right the conservative, libertarian and anarcho nationalists. Everyone had their own society and people at heart. The only difference, of course were the left wing views of more state control over society with less and less control by the state on the right.
    And then, of course, society drastically changed when the immigrants started piling in, as legislation was created to effectively stop any fightback at what was the beginning of the colonization of their own country, by alien peoples.
    Now let’s move on nearly 70 years and successive indoctrination of school children, has drawn them closer to the state and alienated them to family and freedom. Schooling is 100% opposite of what it was pre war. State schools are nothing more than state brain laundries. Children are taught cultural Marxism, to hate white expression and successes, including their own civilization and worse race! With every generation born the number of Marxists within grows drastically, to the point that today, there’s no doubt that by the time children have entered and left college, you can guarantee that at least 85% are ardent socialists and fanatical haters of anything right wing.

    So…..

    The left will continue to fight the right, while the minorities grow to become the majority and then it’s good night Vienna Dave.

    Figures show that by 2070, there will be more Muslims in the UK than the indigenous, courtesy of immigration but mostly far higher procreation rates. This, however is utterly irrelevant. As stated, the indigenous are battling one another. The vote is divided. Last election turn out was 75% (as we are told, although I believe smaller) and all the whites voted for left, right, centre or independent. Muslims, on the other hand will simply be told by their Imams to support the Sharia Islamic party when their population becomes 20% or so of the population. Muslims WILL vote en mass as a tribal block. So if 75% of the vote say, was by whites and the vote is split, then the Islamic party will win. If this happens you can guarantee that they will merge the mosque with the state, remove common law and install Sharia over it. I would also imagine they’d end all voting after that, removing the Houses of Parliament as Imams would rule each city up and down the breadth of the UK.

    You will say; “but if they do that, there would be riots” of course there would be, but by that time there would be far more Muslims in the police and armed forces. Added to that more and more immigrants from Muslim nations would be piling in continuously. Added to that it would be the same throughout Europe. Whites would have either got the hell out and moved to Eastern Europe/Russia or converted to Islam. Muslims do not adhere to western values. They adhere to Islam and the instruction of Muhammad is simple – spread Islam throughout the world and create the ummah.

    So, the bottom line Dave is, that the Islamization of the west is 100% inevitable. Zionists know this and hence why they have been behind every legislation that has brought them here and given them privileges over the indigenous. They know the only way to get Jews into Israel and out of Europe, where they’re happy to stay and parasite off of the goyim is to make Europe and the rest of the west, absolutely unbearable for them to live in. Islam forbids usury.

    I will say of course, nothing is inevitable, but ONLY if certain implementations within society are met. If Britain and Europe repatriated 98% of all Muslims, inputted a strict 2 child per family policy, knocked down every Mosque and never allowed freedom of Islam in the west, along with no positions of authority or influence by Muslims, then Islamization would end faster than poo out a duck’s behind. By making living in western society unbearable for Muslims to live in, the 2% would eventually pack their bags and move to their own lands.
    However, this will never happen for obvious reasons. By the time the left wakes up (and they will) they will be greatly outnumbered and those whites there on the right will hate them with a vengeance so they won’t get their support either.

    Islamization of the west is inevitable Dave. It’s not that it can’t be stopped. It won’t for obvious reasons.

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  129. Harbinger says:
    @Perspective
    In fact, Tommy Robinson even read Martin Sellner's brilliant speech on ethno-nationalism and free speech at speakers corner when Martin Sellner was detained and then banned from the UK. While my personal views lie closer to that of Martin Sellner, I'm not going to throw Tommy Robinson under the bus because he doesn't tick off all the boxes. Let's not forget that in Europe Islamic immigration is a bigger slice of the great replacement than it is in the US and elsewhere.

    “While my personal views lie closer to that of Martin Sellner, I’m not going to throw Tommy Robinson under the bus because he doesn’t tick off all the boxes. Let’s not forget that in Europe Islamic immigration is a bigger slice of the great replacement than it is in the US and elsewhere.”

    He supports multiculturalism, immigration (just not Islamic) and LGBTQ.
    Forgetting his support for the aforementioned for the moment, the overwhelming fact that he is a Zionist is ample reason to not support him and throw him under the bus!
    Were it not FOR Zionism, we WOULDN’T be in the position we’re in now! Zionism is 100% responsible for not only the wars, the mass immigration, the refugees, the destruction of the west and degrading of our society, BUT the very cause behind the subject matter OF Tommy’s crusade!

    Any nationalist, worth their salt, should NOT show any support for Tommy Robinson. You either stand your ground and have principles or you don’t bother at all. He campaigns to not wanting ‘radical’ Muslims in the UK and yet, keeps quiet on WHO is behind the radicalization and why! Never once has he spoken out against the treatment of Palestinians. Never once has he attacked the unlawful wars in the middle east. He’s a Zionist. He’s doing his job. He’s a pied piper and has a hell of a lot of rats now following him.

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  130. Rurik says:

    He campaigns to not wanting ‘radical’ Muslims in the UK and yet, keeps quiet on WHO is behind the radicalization and why!

    does he even know?

    I remember when that Norwegian lunatic decided that he didn’t want Muslims taking over Norway, and so he decided to go kill some Norwegian children, because they were making plaudits to Palestinians.

    I had to wonder.. is his insanity informed?

    doesn’t he realize that virtually every Muslim in Norway is there because Zionists have insisted that they are?

    but perhaps the iron dome of information is as solid in Norway as it is in many hamlets in the ZUSA. Most Americans don’t realize that Jewish supremacists are the ones behind the ‘diversity’, ‘multicultural’ movement. Rather they believe it simply sprang out of the fevered and delusional minds of liberals.

    IOW, they believe that all the moral and spiritual rot being pumped out of the television and school systems, are all a consequence of liberalism. They confuse the cause with the effect. They’ve never bothered to check out who owns the media, but rather just assume it’s businessmen who’ve made a devil’s deal with the Godless liberals to destroy society.

    Does Robinson know that it’s Jewish supremacists who’re 99% responsible for all the Muslim (and African and Jamaican and Indian and all the rest) immigration?

    Does your average Brit even know that?

    or are they like your average Yank, and simply see it all as liberalism coming from the blacks and homos and feminists and white liberals they all know. Whereas the Jews they know, are sympathetic to their angst = ‘the Muslims are evil terrorists’

    good link from Seamus Padraig at 118

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