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From the website of the Jesuit publication, America, we read:

In the new documentary, “Francesco,” the filmmaker, Evgeny Afineevsky, asked Pope Francis during an interview about the place of L.G.B.T. (“Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender”) Catholics in the church. Francis reemphasized his belief that L.G.B.T. people should be made to feel welcome in the church. “Homosexuals have a right to be a part of the family,” the pope said. “They’re children of God and have a right to a family. Nobody should be thrown out or be made miserable because of it. “What we have to create is a civil union law,” he said. “That way they are legally covered. I stood up for that.” As pope, Francis has urged a more welcoming church for L.G.B.T. people, beginning with his response to a question in 2013 about gay priests, “Who am I to judge?” Juan Carlos Cruz, a survivor of clergy sexual abuse who clashed with church leaders over the pope’s handling of sexual abuse in Chile, has developed a friendship with Francis. In the documentary, Mr. Cruz says he has discussed his sexuality with the pope, who allegedly told him, “God made you gay. God loves you like you are and you have to love yourself.

This is not going to be a prolix column because not a great deal needs to be said. The fewer words the better was George Orwell’s writing philosophy and we concur. It’s like being asked whether or not America is a white supremacist nation. While white racism is real and undenaibly exists in pockets in this country (along with anti-Hispanic, anti-white and anti-Asian racism), no disquisition on white supremacy as America’s alleged signature contemporary pestilence, is necessary. Reply in seventeen words and end the matter: “No nation that twice elected a black man to its highest office is a white supremacist nation.”

Case closed.

We would prefer to be just as succinct with anti-Pope Francis: “No Catholic pontiff can welcome into the Church those who practice sodomy.”

Case closed.

Yet, in dealing with Vatican pilpul and flummery it is necessary to elucidate at least a few dimensions of this crisis for the sake of clarity.This is necessary because Francis and his conferes are likely to generate a smokescreen by arguing that they are not welcoming those who actively engage in sodomy, but only those who have an orientation toward it.

Let’s test this putative pontiff’s sincerity. Substitute for “L.G.B.T. people” the holocaust revisionists who doubt, according to conscience, the existence of homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz. Imagine Francis issuing the following pronouncement:

“Holocaust revisionist people have a right to be a part of the family. They’re children of God. Nobody should be thrown out because of it.”

Anti-Pope Francis would never make that statement. Why? Because Francis believes that doubting the existence of execution gas chambers is a grave sin. So what is the logical corollary? “L.G.B.T. people” are not committing grave sins. His absolution is contrary to the law of God; concerning which, we should contemplate Psalm 119, and the words of Jesus in John 14:15, “If you love me, keep my commandments.” To rehabilitate homosexual acts, one must nullify the Torah.

“But Jesus never spoke against homosexuality,” is the reply. Neither did He speak contra abortion. He did however, define marriage exactly as His Father decreed in Genesis 5:2: between a man and a woman. Sex is a transgression against divine law on any occasion when it is not between a male and female within the bonds of matrimony.

This is fixed dogma which permits no loopholes, or the infamous casuistry which this pope, like many before him, employs. It is at this juncture that our position differs radically from almost all other conservative Catholics, when we observe that sex with men and boys was institutionalized inside the Church long before Vatican II. Molestations were at epidemic levels in pontificates regarded as “traditional,” due to the perceived need to protect the reputation of the “higher-souled” priest-molester, and because of the secrecy in which is wrapped the homosexual activities of the Roman hierarchy (which are as labyrinthine as its financial dealings).

The most faithful and effective opponent of sodomy in the past 500 years was an Italian Dominican who Pope Alexander VI excommunicated and demanded be executed by fire. The pope’s wish was made reality on May 23, 1498.

The burning of Savonarola and two of his supporters, Florence, 1498
The burning of Savonarola and two of his supporters, Florence, 1498

The martyr’s name was Girolamo Savonarola and he had turned Florence, previously the capital of sodomy in Italy, into a renewed Catholic community free of the homosexual gangs that had roamed brazenly. After he was stripped and burned in the city’s central Plaza della Signoria, the “gay” elite were heard to remark, “Now we can sodomize!” and Florence quickly returned to its pagan putrescence (cf. The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, pp. 222-237).

As far back as a thousand years ago Saint Peter Damian spoke of a “Satanic tyranny” that had spread the “cancer of sodomy” inside the Church. (cf. The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, pp. 481-498). He recognized that a celibate religious priesthood must exercise constant vigilance against the attraction of homosexually-oriented persons to its ranks, and to keep from positions of ecclesiastical influence or power those individuals, while maintaining a relentless Biblical polemic contra sodomy. Such are the minimum requirements of male celibacy lived in community, which prudence dictates.

Search the records: over a millennia Peter Damian and Savonarola comprised only a minuscule number who raised this warning, and of these two, one of them was burned to death at the urging of the reigning pontiff.

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Centuries after St. Damian, and twenty-nine years after the judicial murder of Savonarola, on Maundy Thursday, 1527, the heroic Italian peasant street preacher Brandano da Petroio called Medici Pope Clement VII—to his face, “Bastardo sodomita!” (“sodomite bastard”)— an act of intrepid truth-telling for which he was imprisoned under harsh conditions, until liberated by Spanish troops during the sack of Rome.

In the ensuing 493 years no other jeremiad against papal and Vatican sodomy appeared until the extent of the systematic molestation of youths was made notorious beginning in the early years of this century. The molestation network is still in place, however. For example, in Spokane, Washington a “Catholic” institute has been created, named for William Skylstad, the bishop who facilitated molester priests in the diocese. It advertises in the local newspaper. Moreover, beginning in 2007, Blase Cupich, while bishop of Spokane, conspired with the Jesuits of Gonzaga University to secretly harbor child molesters at Cardinal Bea House, a priests’ retirement home situated on the campus. This area was frequented by many dozens of children of the local St. Aloysius parish church, and thousands of students at the university. Cupich was subsequently rewarded by being elevated to the rank of cardinal by “Pope” Francis.

Under Francis, the charming and voluble Rev. Fr. James Martin has become the highest profile “homosexual rights” campaigner in the English-speaking world, spreading the “Catholic” gospel of “gay.”

It is a truism that homosexually-oriented persons who do not engage in the sin of sodomy are as deserving of rights and protection as any other human being. Thoughts, emotions and proclivities are not in themselves criminal or even necessarily sinful, and yes — some people are “born that way.”

Yet, we ought to keep in mind that certain individuals from a young age have over-powering desires to engage in incest. In the name of their “love” for their mother, sister or daughter, shall we “make them feel welcome in the Church” as they practice their perversions?

Some people would also seem to have developed, from early youth, tendencies toward murderous predation, cannibalism, sex with children and even bestiality. How is a strong orientation from a young age toward abominable sins, grounds for accommodating those sins by “welcoming” those who engage in them?

For the views of Francis to be even remotely Catholic, he would have to strenuosuly and without a trace of ambiguity, differentiate between celibate homosexuality and practicing homosexuality, and warn in the gravest terms against the latter.

Francis would also have to be cognizant that a lax attitude even toward non-practicing homosexuals can lead to the further entrenchment of the sub-rosa “gay” culture inside the hierarchy and priesthood of the Church. It is incumbent on him to parse his words in such a way that he makes it clear that Jesus offers complete liberation from all forms of bondage, including sex addictions. No one need accommodate themselves to the torment of a disordered orientation—least of all the Church itself. The first step in the divine healing process is for the individual to acknowledge his sinfulness and then call upon the grace of Jesus Christ to change his ways in sorrow for his transgressions: “Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord” (Acts 3:19). We see no such call coming from Francis. Rather he is sending signals of accommodation of the predominant media culture, of the continue-in-your-sins variety, normalizing the unnatural. This is the voice of the Vatican’s centuries-old “gay” mafia, not of anything holy or counter-cultural.

In the name of the compassion which Our Lord offers to all of us sinners, including filthy usury bankers, wicked environmental polluters of our air, soil and water, ruthless purveyors of ruinous false witness and gossip, and all of the other mortal sins of which we are guilty, we must surely feel pity and exhibit profound Christian charity toward those afflicted with a homosexual orientation.

Admittedly, this charity has been lacking in self-righteous Right wing and conservative circles. This omission on their part has contributed to the sense on the Left that persons with homosexual feelings have been wronged by the Catholic world. Both views are unbalanced. Biblical truth must be affirmed and proclaimed without fear of being termed politically incorrect or “bigoted,” yet these Scriptural admonitions should be offered from a foundation of loving kindness.

In the long tradition of fork-tongued Vatican double-talk, we think that this papacy will exploit the confusion concerning what is at issue in this struggle. Francis and his allies will say they are defenders only of those who “were born that way.” Perish the thought that their intention is to welcome into the Church men who have sex in the sewer of the human body. But make no mistake: that is the end result of this latest papal pronouncement.

As damage control, we predict that in the future Francis will shade and modify the remarks he made to film-maker Evgeny Afineevsky. He will run the gamut between the casuist’s poles of laxity and severity. By this stratagem his supporters on the Left can cite the declaration of Francis in the “Francesco” documentary to harass Catholic schools and hospitals that have thus far rebuffed employees engaged in homosexual “civil unions” and “marriages.”

The moderating “clarification” which he or his cronies will issue will convey something along the lines of, “In no way has the pope ever intended to depart from the doctrine of the Church on this matter.” This ruse will in turn provide Catholics on the Right with the ammunition they need to deceive themselves and others into fantasizing that their pope is not engaged in opening the ecclesiastical door ever wider to the curse of sodomy, and the enablement of the homosexual cabal which, since the Middle Ages, has clamored for control at the highest levels.

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We have seen many references to “Sodom and Gomorrah” in the course of this upheaval, as if that was the only event in the Bible that takes up coercion and violence by homosexuals. Because Christians in general and Catholics in particular seldom actually read the Scriptures in depth, a Scriptural case far more relevant to the current crisis is being overlooked. It is found in the last three chapters of the Book of Judges, which some exegetes have termed darker and more grim than anything in the whole of the rest of the Old Testament. In Judges we read that members of God’s own covenant people defied Yahweh and forced homosexuality on their brethren.

While it’s true that the papacy is in a state of disrepute not seen since the era of Luther and Calvin, this man Jorge Bergoglio who is styled, “Pope Francis,” continues to retain star power in the media, along with the ability to direct the massive resources of the occult Church of Rome in the direction of further revolutionary betrayal of the Gospel.

With reference to the network of cardinals, bishops and priests around the “gay rights” campaign of Francis, dissident Archbishop Carlo Viganó has termed it a “magic circle.” We don’t think he chose those words by accident.

Michael Hoffman is the editor of the periodical Revisionist History® and the author of many books, including Twilight Language, forthcoming in 2021. His work is supported by donations from truth-seekers and the sale of his writings and recordings.

(Republished from Revisionist History by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. apollonian says: • Website

    Hoffman: Just Another Satanic, Pharisaic Charlatan, No Essentially Diff. FM The Commie Pope Francis

    Never forget the basic, fundamental battle and war is that btwn TRUTH (= Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6) and the non-existent GOOD, “good,” the worst enemy of TRUTH (Christ). For all humans are necessarily sinners, self-interested, creatures of will, though not a perfectly “free” will as only possessed by God. Observe this non-existent “good” is always the excuse of bolsheviks, socialists, “liberals,” “progressives,” et al., all of these led by Jews–just ck the hist. books.

    But these satanic psychos presently run the world, dominating the poor people who are overpopulated, leaderless, and fatally bewildered in all the confusion, cognitive dissonance, and generalized turmoil.

    Thus the pretended “Good” are led by Satanists, Satanists led by Jews, Judaism/Talmudism the foremost style of Satanism, most successful and effective of all the satanic styles, Jews most dedicated, and best organized, most collectivistic, thus dominating all the other Satanists and subjectivists as among goyim who, though far more numerous, are far less well organized.

    And note this Satanism is all so perfectly LOGICAL, given the basic false premise (subjectivism), the mysticism is then introduced to make it impossible for the lower-level goons and suckers to figure it all out for the horrific, though simple, confidence game it really is.

    For Satanism is just extreme subjectivism, necessary foundation of the non-existent, pretended “good,” subjectivism the idea that reality is created by consciousness/mind by which the subject makes himself God, creator of reality. Jews are just COLLECTIVISTIC subjectivists–why and how they dominate the more numerous goyim, far less organized.

    Thus Jews are understood as the best among the “good” as they’re co-equal w. God who is nothing but their servant, God’s only purpose being to have created the “best,” the Jews, God’s “chosen”–and all this is to be found in their Talmud, the written “Oral Law” which distinguishes Jews and their (original) leaders, the Pharisees, nowadays the rabbis.

    And observe the simple fact that through all the yrs and centuries NO ONE in all history, philosophy, or ethics has ever been able to define exactly what is good and what is “evil” that works in all situations. For reality, as it is OBJECTIVE (Aristotle), so it is DETERMINED in accord w. absolute cause-effect–there’s no perfectly “free” human will.

    But now, here we have Hoffman, the great pretended arbiter of Satanism, Pharisaism, and satanic “good-evil” who opposes the commie pope, Francis, whom he envies as a rival charlatan, and wants to pretend homosexuality is “evil”–though he can’t define such non-existent “good-evil” for a premise, just as he can’t define “usury,” which he idiotically pretends is mere charging of interest for a loan. Hoffman doesn’t even know the diff. btwn real money (gold and silver–a commodity) and mere currency–pretend money (see Mises.org).

    For homosexuality is mere indulgence becoming a fatal obsession–as we see it is for these “Vatican” (not same thing as “church”) anti-Christs and Satanists who now work so cheerfully for the rabbis of satanism.

    Thus we see Hoffman isn’t even a Christian (worshipper of TRUTH above all), like he isn’t an economist and not much of a “historian”–just another cheap, sanctimonious MORALIST, pretending to intimidating and extorting people for their imagined good or evil. Hoffman, just another goon w. overwhelming inferiority-complex obsessed w. idea he’s “good,” virtuous, and knows all about it, now to be lecturing poor fools who are impressed w. him and send him their excess currency.

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  2. JoRizz says: • Website

    Fr Ed Meeks

    The NON-NEGOTIABLES

    Homosexuality is a NON-NEGOTIABLE.

    Even within the church priest are saying that.

    Civil unions are a political move for acceptance of this sodomy and puts the camels nose into the tent…

    We must never waver from what God has condemned.
    How do those involved in civil unions teach a Godly morality to their adopted children?

    They CANT…

    You can’t advocate lifestyles God has condemned.
    Take that up with God if you have a problem because according to God the topic is NON-NEGOTIABLE.

  3. A lot of points well taken. I’ve read his book “Usury in Christendom” mentioned above.

    I’m not against gay people. But the Pope speaking out is a turnabout for the Church.

    Wonder if the Pope has received criticism. But of course gay people should be accepted kindly.

    Please restore me on your emailing list. Thank you.

    • Replies: @The Soft Parade
  4. Speech is powerful, and increasingly suppressed by threatened institutions. I have little interest in the topic of this article, but wondered how in that context whether and how mainstream media address Mr. Hoffman’s emphasis on the life of someone I had scarcely heard of:

    The martyr’s name was Girolamo Savonarola and he had turned Florence, previously the capital of sodomy in Italy, into a renewed Catholic community free of the homosexual gangs that had roamed brazenly. After he was stripped and burned in the city’s central Plaza della Signoria, the “gay” elite were heard to remark, “Now we can sodomize!” and Florence quickly returned to its pagan putrescence (cf. The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, pp. 222-237).

    So I went to the lengthy Wikipedia article, where the issue that Mr. Hoffman tells us was so important is dealt with in only two, buried sentences and what he might cite as a notable “use” of quotation marks:

    Buoyed by liberation and prophetic promise, the Florentines embraced Savonarola’s campaign to rid the city of “vice”. At his repeated insistence, new laws were passed against “sodomy” (which included male and female same-sex relations), adultery, public drunkenness, and other moral transgressions, while his lieutenant Fra Silvestro Maruffi organised boys and young men to patrol the streets to curb immodest dress and behaviour.

    Whether Savonarola was (or Hoffman is) a crank isn’t the point. What I learned again today is to never rely on any single source, especially one like Wikipedia that professes no agenda.

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  5. First the church renounces antisemitism, now homophobia, what’s next, will they admit misogyny is wrong too? Poor Jesus must be having fits.

    Nice, though, to see a 16th century woodcut illustration from Fox’s “Book of Martyrs” in this article. Protestant Francis Drake used to keep a copy on board his flagship the Golden Hind to harangue captured Catholic Spaniards with. Cool how the one and only eternal truth comes in so many different flavors.

  6. anarchyst says:

    In pre-Vatican II days, the Church realized that jews WERE the “enemy”–not to be abused, but to be recognized as such, and that there was a jewish cabal residing within the Church hierarchy whose aim was to destroy the Church from within.

    The same situation exists with the homosexual problem in the Catholic clergy. The Catholic Church, being a worldwide institution has always had a much greater visible presence. Accordingly, its “problems” are more widely noted.

    These same “crypto-jews” being priests and bishops had a long time in which to wreak their havoc. In fact, it was these same “crypto-jew” bishops who accepted known homosexuals into the priesthood, as long as the candidates “promised not to act on their homosexual tendencies”–a disaster for the Catholic Church.

    There is a visceral hatred of the Catholic Church that exists widely among jews and protestants. Since the “mainstream media” is almost completely jew-owned, it is a convenient vehicle in which to spew its anti-Catholic hatred.

    Homosexual pedophilia is more rampant among protestant clergy and jewish rabbis, but is never noted as such. The Catholic Church IS attempting to remedy this problem within its clergy.

    The Catholic Church has “warts”, just as all earthly institutions do, but to blame the Catholic Church for the world’s ills is clearly due to hatred, not fact.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
  7. aname says:

    One has to be Catholic in order to be Pope. Bergoglio aka “Francis” is not Catholic. He is an apostate. He doesn’t defend Christ. He defends the enemy because he is a wicked liar and deceiver who hates Catholicism. His religion is judeo-masonic marxist humanism. He is an impostor. He is an Anti-Pope just like all the Vatican II Anti-Popes starting with Roncalli aka “John XXIII”. They and their cult of man have infiltrated every institution with the help of their masters the jews.

    This article in regards to the historical information of the Church seems misleading. Hoffman paints with a broad brush comparing true Popes of the past to Anti-Popes of today. What is happening today is unprecedented. Nowhere in the history of the Church has anything so deceptive and awful compare to what we have today, decades of Anti-Popes and enemies of Christ masquerading as Catholics and deceiving Catholics and the world leading them to hell. Hoffman even calls “Francis” an Anti-Pope in this article, yet he talks about his revisionist history of the Church to makes comparison of a true pope and an apostate Anti-Pope who teaches heresy without making the distinction between the two.

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  8. POPE BLESSES HOMOSEXUAL UNIONS

    Michael Hoffman
    http://www.RevisionistHistory.org

    Yesterday we analyzed the ramifications of the pope’s comments as recorded in the new documentary film “Francesco,” extending his “Who am I to judge” existentialism concerning homosexuality, into outright papal approbation for “gay civil unions.”

    In our column we warned about the damage control that would inevitably be launched on the Right, heavily laden with the intelligence agency concept of plausible denial.

    First at bat this morning is the Right wing Ignatius Institute, an allegedly “conservative” Jesuit operation that publishes the online “Catholic World Report.” They suggest that the pope’s remarks on homosexuals were taken out of context, spliced together; that they were not contiguous, that the pope is made to say what he did not say in the way he said it, not explicitly. If you think that sounds more like a Rodney Dangerfield comedy monologue than a reasonable exculpation of the pope’s beliefs, you’re probably correct.

    From the same “Catholic World Report” another columnist comes nearer to the truth of the matter and skirts dangerously close to revealing the game afoot. We’ll quote from him and then add our own comments.

    The deeply flawed opportunism of Pope Francis

    By Carl E. Olson
    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2020/10/21/the-deeply-flawed-opportunism-of-pope-francis/

    The matter of the specific question might not be clear, but the end result of this quintessentially Francis moment seems clear enough: more controversy, more confusion, further sniping over what the Church really teaches, and where papal comments in documentaries should be placed in the realm of magisterial statements: Above interviews given to an elderly, atheist Italian journalist? Below off-the-cuff remarks made while flying at 30,000 feet? Close to private phone calls made to this mother or that old friend?

    Here’s the thing: if Francis’s remarks were made without prudential concern for how they would be received, they are deeply troubling. Or worse. If they were carefully made with specific attention to how they would be received, they are deeply troubling. Or worse.

    Yes, everyone has a “right” to be a “part of a family”; their very existence suggests they came from a family. But is Francis then saying that homosexuals have a “right” to have a family? It appears so. As the Catholic News Agency report notes, the film includes a story of Francis “encouraging two Italian men in a same-sex relationship to raise their children in their parish church, which, one of the men said, was greatly beneficial to his children.” 

    But “…in his 2013 book On Heaven and Earth, Francis stated that…if same-sex couples “are given adoption rights, there could be affected children. Every person needs a male father and a female mother that can help them shape their identity.”

    So, which is it? Well, that probably depends on the day and week. Changing course and shifting narrative parameters for different audiences has been a regular feature of this pontificate…

    (End quote from Mr. Olson)

    Whether he is aware of it or not, the utility of Olsen’s last paragraph is that it accurately articulates the profound deceptions that began to emerge from the papacy, beginning in the late fifteenth century, with the clandestine “baptism” of the Talmud and Kabbalah, which is the subject of our book, The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome.

    We would revise Mr. Olson’s observation, “Changing course and shifting narrative parameters for different audiences has been a regular feature of this pontificate,” to note that this camouflage and shape-shifting has been a regular feature not just of Francis, but of dozens of pontificates long before the liberal Second Vatican Council of the 1960s.

    In 1515 Pope Leo X issued a bull permitting interest on loans for the good cause of his Medici relatives’ charity banks (the main charity being the Medici). E. Michael Jones has challenged our assertion that the Church gradually betrayed the dogma banning the renting of money. He did so by alluding to Pope Benedict XIV’s Vix Pervenit, which ostensibly reasserts the immemorial anti-usury teaching of the Bible and the sacred tradition that is in line with it. Dr. Jones missed the “fine print” in this document, however. The pope inserted an escape clause permitting a little bit of interest on loans, if reasonable and necessary in certain situations, rather like permitting whoredom in “extenuating circumstances” so long as the prostitute’s rates are discounted. Usurers, like their brethren in the legal profession, are fairly adept at smelling the odor of situation ethics and reading fine print. Consequently, the historical record shows that usury increased among Catholics after the issuance of the “great and wonderfully orthodox” Vix Pervenit.

    We could furnish a hundred more examples of papal swindles like the preceding, from far back in the “traditional Catholic” past,beginning with the Platonic Academy in Florence in the mid-fifteenth century. How about the papally-sponsored publication of the finest edition of the Babylonian Talmud ever printed up to 1521? No! you protest, the Renaissance popes burned the Talmud! Yes, they did, but first they made certain they rescued the Talmud from the oblivion in which it was descending in the early sixteenth century. They made it what it is today, even ensuring that Rashi was included as a canonical part of the text, and underwriting the survival and expansion of the Talmud. Later, the Renaissance papacy burned copies of the Talmud as damage control in order to keep their Right wing faithful to their dictatorship. Sound familiar? Do you imagine the tactics of “Pope” Francis are new? He inherited them as part of the ancient Neoplatonic-Hermetic gnosis.

    In one case we documented The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, Spanish troops were outraged that the pontiff’s forces were protecting the Talmud. The troops searched for other diabolic rabbinic books in Italy, one of which was the demonology known as the Kabbalah, which was the “bible” of Renaissance “Catholic” occultism. The clever pontiff of the time ordered the Talmud burned (the Spanish would have done it anyway),to distract the Spaniards’ attention from the stockpile of Kabbalah texts that papacy was protecting. The sly misdirection succeeded. The Kabbalah was saved while some copies of the Talmud were burned. The event entered history as, “Anti-Semitic Pontiff Burns Talmud.” The part about doing so to protect the stock of Kabbalah volumes is never reported. And so it goes: misdirection after misdirection, deception after deception.

    As we tried to show in our book Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare, and in the volume we are currently writing, Twilight Language, the Cryptocracy proceeds over time in stages. What it divulges now it could not have made public 70 years ago without dire consequences to its operations. The current stage in the human alchemy which is at the core of the process of our transformation and devolution, is to reveal to us the Satanic harm perpetrated by our esteemed leaders, whether the “Holy Father” or the Queen of England or the President of the United States, and then have us do nothing, thereby exponentially increasing our bondage to the dark forces. My teacher James Shelby Downard termed it, the “Revelation of the Method,” and alternately, the “Making manifest of All that is Hidden” (Luke 8:17).

    Perverse irony of ironies: the secrets-keeping Cryptocracy that killed, maimed or ruined everyone from Capt. William Morgan (drowned in New York in 1826), James Forrestal (defenestrated in 1949), Lee Harvey Oswald (shot to death in 1963), to Jeffrey Epstein (choked to death in 2019), to prevent them from revealing secrets, is increasingly publicly disclosing their secrets to us, as Francis did in “Francesco.” This is accomplished for reasons of psychological warfare and timed to coincide with our own enervated condition. Thus far their gambit has succeeded. We are more than ever distracted, demoralized, indifferent, misdirected, confused and fatigued. Our humanity is being drained. We dress like slobs and casually employ obscene language which formerly was the lingo only of pimps, perverts and drunken sailors. We claim to love truth but in fact we are awed by our Satanic Majesties’ digital carnival, promising daily ever more apocalyptic thrills and adrenaline rushes.

    This week, as the presidential election jolted us in one direction and another like passengers on a Twilight Zone roller coaster, and while NASA’s spacecraft dubbed “Osiris Rex,” after the supreme king of the Pharaonic Egyptian magic that is the root of the Kabbalah, snatched prima materia from an asteroid, the “Holy Father” stepped forth from the pit of hell to bless the practice that across millennia has been universally recognized by every civilization that observed the natural law, to be a malediction that destroys nations.

    True? Accurate? Close enough? Not really. Sort of. Maybe.

    Michael Hoffman is the editor of the periodical Revisionist History®, published six times a year.

    Copyright©2020 by Independent History and Research, Box 849, Coeur d’Alene, Idaho 83816

    https://www.revisionisthistory.org

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  9. @Greta Handel

    … At his repeated insistence, new laws were passed against “sodomy” (which included male and female same-sex relations), adultery, public drunkenness, and other moral transgressions,…

    “Sodomy” has always been, what in law, were called “un-natural acts” whether committed by men or women. The un-natural act of buggery was anal intercourse. Sodomy included buggery. I recall hearing news broadcasts up to the mid 60s of both men and women being charged with committing one or both sodomy and buggery.
    Your point is well taken though, the campaign was not only about homosexuality.

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  10. RVBlake says:

    Regarding the sodomitical festivities to which Florence quickly returned after Savanarola’s immolation, label that putrescence Catholic, not pagan.

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  11. @Michael Hoffman

    You seem to be drawing a link between Osiris worship and the practice of homosexuality but Jews are accused by you of having perverted the OT in the Talmud so would it be surprising if they had done the same with the Kabbalah?

    Millennia before Jesus tried to lead the Jews back to the garden they had been evicted from, the Ancient Egyptians, your “pagans”, described in detail postmortem judgement taking place before the throne of Osiris at which they had to declare a list of sins they were free from either by non-practice or absolution. This included:

    “I have not lain with a man”
    “I have not committed adultery”
    (Papyrus of Ani and many other similar texts)

    I have wondered about a connection between the rise of unwise women in the political sphere making catastrophic mistakes and children as leaders (climate crusades) with a passage from the Book of Isaiah:

    “My people—infants are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your guides mislead you and they have swallowed up the course of your paths”

    and the reason for this?

    “The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves” (Isa 3:9)

    If an alcoholic has a genetic predisposition to this affliction they do not have Alcoholic Pride parades and demand that children should be encouraged in infant school to pursue this as a life style.

    Is not one of the messages of the Garden of Eden story that some things be banned as a test of free will even though they be desirable to the individual?

    Whatever be the case moral judgement was part of “pagan” belief and only by passing this test could the ancient Egyptian say then and now “[I belong] to the Garden of Osiris, and a path is made is made for me so that I may go in and worship Osiris Lord of Life” (BD 122, ROF)

    • Replies: @Franz
  12. Vinnie O says:

    “Taking pleasure in impure THOUGHTS” is itself a Sin. The nuns taught me that lo! these many years ago. I suppose there is some VERY narrow instance during Biology class or something wherein a sincere student (or teacher) can describe and discuss a boy copulating with a girl. But you’d have to have the will power of a saint to NOT start imagining a SPECIFIC boy copulating with a SPECIFIC girl (hubba-hubba)….

    And then there is the whole “near occasions of Sin” thing: you are to AVOID going down paths that lead to sin… Etc., etc.

    I can’t imagine a SINGLE case where an inquiring young man (or exhausted old man) can start down a path whose GOAL is a better understanding of Sodomy. It just don’t work that way.

    And for as little as the Catholic Church concerns itself with specific verbiage from the King James Bible, the ONLY guidance in the Bible on guys boinking guys runs, “For a man to lie down [as he would with a woman] with another man is an ABOMINATION before God.”

    I don’t see any wiggle room there. There’s no “you can do it until you go blind” kind of exception. It’s a BAD thing. DETAILS about skating around the edges of an occasion of sin ON PURPOSE, for PERSONAL PLEASURE, is NOT the kind of conduct that priests (and popes) should be advising the Laity about.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  13. Vinnie O says:

    My previous comments ASSUME that the discussion is ENTIRELY about sexual intercourse between a conforming Catholic man and other men. Once we move on from Holy Mother Church, the discussion changes.

    THROUGHOUT the Mediterranean in the Biblical Period, it was FULLY accepted amongst civilized Greeks and Romans was it was NOT POSSIBLE for a man to actually “love” a woman because women were obviously DEFECTIVE men (um, they have this ugly WOUND right where their winky should be). So although a man would “marry” a woman in order to produce heirs, that man chose his LOVER from among other men. And one of the most important duties of a father was to introduce his immature but maturing son to adult males with the proper social connections. These lovers would aid the youngster for the rest of his public life.

    [Q: In Greece, how do you separate the men from the boys? A: Crowbars.] Oh, the one detailed discussion of copulation between Greek/Roman men and boys I’ve read states firmly that ALL of the stimulation of winkies is done “between the thighs”. That is, the active player lays atop the partner and rubs his winky against the partner’s winky until SOMEBODY achieves Orgasm. (It was understood well into the 19th Century that it was IMPOSSIBLE for a human female to achieve orgasm. I think Freud wrote a fair piece arguing that it could be done it she PRACTICED…)

    I’ve never read a detailed discussion of homosexual activity among Greek and Roman women, although of course we have descriptions of the goings on at Lesbos. It surely went on elsewhere, but apparently women were expected to askew sexual activity whilst concentrating on raising the babies.

  14. apollonian says: • Website
    @Michael Hoffman

    Hoffman Only Does The Devil’s Work, Defending, Justifying Subjectivism, Pelagian Heresy Of Non-Existent “Good”

    Observe Hoffman follows-up his thesis babbling w. just more babbling–which might seem to make it all consistent, hence ringing w. a sort of coherence or congruency–but is it the truth?–reflected in perceptual (“existential”) reality? Of course not, but Hoffman wants to persuade the suckers that “truth” is what Hoffman says, Hoffman insisting he’s only following “commandments,” and that we should too.

    In reality, we only need be HONEST to grasping the real TRUTH (= Christ), the only way to the Father being through the Son.

    For all one needs do is to note Christ = TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), above all, and such truth requires the OBJECTIVE reality (Aristotle), truth being the perception and then reflection in the mind of that reality, God-created–NOT created by human subjectivism, extreme form of which is Satanist extreme subjectivism which subjectivism holds reality is created by consciousness/mind, making the subject to be God, the creator–Satanism, by definition.

    Remember also, “Vatican” is NOT the “Church”; Vatican is mere bureaucracy, a cabal of “officials” and charlatans (like Hoffman) who pretend to being important as they beg for money, telling suckers they’ll go to heaven if they “contribute,” as Martin Luther famously described. For the real down-to-earth (“existential”) purpose of this Satanism/subjectivism is the ultimate establishment of central-banking fraud (described in “Book of Revelations”) by which Satanists obtain real, actual (“existential”) POWER.

    Thus the people are deprived of real money (commodity-based, hence FINITE in amount, like gold/silver), and are forced to use fiat-CURRENCY which is thereupon replicated and proliferated ad infinitum, the people defrauded and impoverished by constant devaluation of the currency unit–LEGALIZED COUNTERFEITING, literally–as we see (ck Mises.org; use their site search-engine for particular terms).

    Hoffman would rather babble and blather, spinning yarns and telling unctuous lies about “usury,” which he knows NOTHING about, Hoffman not even grasping diff. btwn real money and mere currency. For w. real money, people are made more secure fm Satanists and Satanism, whereas fiat-currency is instrument of slavery, misery, and genocide.

    Don’t doubt there’s real, actual (“existential”) purpose to Satanism, subjectivism, and Pharisaic tyranny of “commandments,” and fiat-currency is the very (“existential”) instrument for that slavery.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  15. gay troll says:

    To rehabilitate homosexual acts, one must nullify the Torah.

    Correct, the taboo against homosexuality is quintessentially Jewish. The thing is, Jesus Christ came to Earth to nullify the Torah; every one of his teachings in the Gospels contradicts the law of Moses. When he says a man and woman should never get divorced (contradicting Moses) he also says that some men may not get married because they have been made eunuchs. But he also asks his followers to understand (if they can) that some men are born eunuchs. That is, some men are biologically determined to have a more feminine sexuality. Jesus was probably talking about himself.

    The Torah is used as a prop by Jesus Christ in the Gospels in order to mock the Jews. Meanwhile it has been used by churches to propagate the unholy vision of the Old Testament despite Christ’s total rejection of it. Jesus only fulfills the Jewish prophecies so that he has the authority to abolish Jewish laws. It becomes evident that the Gospels, as well as evil propaganda, are a kind of joke.

    Hail Kristna 666

  16. Hans Karl says:

    “A source from the Mexican network Televisa confirmed that Pope Francis’ explosive comments in which he endorsed civil unions between people of the same sex were made during an interview in May 2019 that never aired in its entirety.

    The broadcaster said the emphasis of its interview was on clergy sexual abuse, and implied that it did not view the comments about civil unions as newsworthy because Francis had previously indicated that he supported them.

    Coronavirus: Lacalle Pou announced that Uruguay will keep its borders closed in the tourist season

    The Vatican, which had the full interview on file, apparently allowed the remarks to appear in the documentary Francesco ‘, released Wednesday.

    In the film, shown at the Rome Film Festival, Francis said that gays should not be thrown out of families or treated with contempt. “What we have to do is a law of civil coexistence, they have the right to be legally covered. I defended that,” said the Pope.

    But a source in Mexico familiar with the interview said the original footage of the interview that the Vatican provided to Televisa did not include the quote about civil unions. The source spoke on condition of anonymity because he lacked authorization to testify to the press.

    The Vatican did not respond to requests for comment.

    When the Pontiff agrees to such interviews, the Vatican television unit makes the recording and provides the complete footage to the correspondent in question for him to edit and choose what to use. The Vatican receives this edition and the final product is released simultaneously via the television station and the Holy See media.

    The statements about civil unions caused a furor, moving progressives and alarming conservatives, since the official Church magisterium prohibits endorsing homosexual unions.

    When he was archbishop of Buenos Aires, then-Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio supported extending civil union protections to gay couples as an alternative to same-sex marriage, which he strongly opposed. However, he had never spoken out in favor of giving legal protections to civil unions since his election as pope, as none of his predecessors had.

    One of Francisco’s main communications advisers, Father Antonio Spadaro, insisted on Wednesday that the Pontiff’s statements were old news, as he made them during an interview with Televisa in May 2019.

    “There is nothing new because it is part of that interview, ” Spadaro told The Associated Press as he left the premiere.

    But Televisa did not include those statements when broadcasting the interview, nor did the Vatican when broadcasting its recordings and a transcript.

    The broadcaster, in a statement sent to the AP, said it chose to highlight the most “journalistically relevant” comments about sexual abuse in the material it did broadcast, just months after Francis hosted bishops from around the world for a summit. of child protection in the Vatican.

    “The mention of unions between people of the same sex was something that the pope had already mentioned on other occasions prior to our interview in 2019,” Televisa said in its statement.

    The Vatican often edits the pontiff’s statements in official transcripts and videos, especially when he talks about controversial issues. However, apparently a version of the complete recording was still available in his own archives, to which the filmmaker Evgeny Afineevsky did have access.

    Apparently referring to Francisco’s position in Argentina, the documentary used the previously not broadcast quote about the pope’s support for a law regulating civil unions between same-sex couples, or civil union law, as it was called in its country.

    Adding to the confusion, Afineevsky said in responses to reporters Wednesday night that the pope made the remarks directly to him, through a translator, but declined to clarify when he made them.

    A preview of the documentary was provided to the AP on the condition that it not be released until Wednesday’s premiere. In an interview with the director on Oct. 14, the news agency asked him if he was aware that Francisco’s comments would be front-page news.

    Afineevsky evaded the question about the origin of the quote and did not seem to grasp its importance, but expressed the hope that journalists would turn their attention to other themes in the film.

    “If the journalists only focus on that in the film, then it will be unfortunate,” he said. “But I think that is one of the aspects that our world must understand, that we are all the same.”

    Press

    The head of the Vatican’s communications department, Paolo Ruffini, declined to speak to the press during a ceremony Thursday in the Vatican Gardens in which an award was presented to Afineevsky, who also stayed away from reporters.

    The Catholic Church teaches that gay people are to be treated with dignity and respect, but that homosexual acts are “inherently deviant.” A 2003 document from the office of doctrine states that the Church’s respect for gays “cannot in any way lead to the approval of homosexual conduct or the legal recognition of homosexual unions.”

    According to the Vatican’s reasoning, doing otherwise would not only condone “deviant conduct” but would create an equivalent to marriage, which for the Church is an indissoluble union between a man and a woman.

    The document bears the signature of the then head of the office, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who would eventually become Pope Benedict XVI, Francis’ immediate predecessor.

    After the premiere, Afineevsky, who is gay, expressed surprise that the Pope’s remarks created such a stir. He said that Francisco was not trying to alter the doctrine, but was only expressing his belief that gays should enjoy the same rights as heterosexuals.

    On Thursday he declined to answer questions and tried to focus attention on the film’s main themes: climate change, refugees and poverty.

    “I am so proud that Francesco is finally on his way to change hearts and minds,” he said at the award ceremony in the Vatican gardens. “I am happy to bring the voices of Rohingya refugees, refugees from Syria, the voices of the victims of sexual abuse, the voices from different corners of the world. ”

    AP Agency

    • Replies: @Emslander
  17. Lin says:

    A notable RC gay ‘martyr’ is His Holiness Pope Paul II.
    He was literally fucked to death by his page(He died during the act).
    ……….
    The Vatican is a big closet anyway. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/mar/03/in-the-closet-of-the-vatican-frederic-martel-review

    • Replies: @zimriel
  18. vot tak says:

    A catholic priest in favor of gay rights? LOL. This is a real shocker… 😀

  19. Seraphim says:
    @Greta Handel

    Candid acknowledgement that American schools don’t teach you anything!

  20. Franz says:
    @Jack McArthur

    I have wondered about a connection between the rise of unwise women in the political sphere making catastrophic mistakes …

    This complaint is pertinent, and goes back quite a way even to recent US history.

    Philip Wylie’s book, Generation of Vipers, came out (amazingly) about the time America entered WWII. It was a hit then, forgotten now. The most controversial chapter in the book describes what Wylie called “momism” which he considered the disastrous consequences of allowing women to act effectively as the sole parent of young males.

    Dorothy Day (of the Catholic League) had been somewhat successful creating the “family wage” whereby corporate bosses paid the male breadwinner enough to cover the expenses of the whole household. This allowed women to be full time homemakers. While fathers were mostly absent working.

    The family wage years era ended during the recessionary oil shock years of the 70s, but by then inflation had sucked the life out of most wage jobs anyway. Mom went to work just as she did before.

    Still Wylie thought the damage had been done. Lots of people agreed with him, some of the misogynist statements in Growing Up Absurd, a very popular book about what a disaster US education was becoming by the fifties, were probably influenced by Wylie.

    During the Reagan 80s feminism in American life was the most powerful cultural force. How much of that was due to the new austerity? And is the effect we are seeing now due to the disaster of sexual confusion that started while the US economy was being globalized, which is to say, while the American worker was being impoverished?

    It’s worth considering.

  21. I’m not Christian, and I don’t really care what kind of erotic play adults get up to, save only to say that all erotic play – including between a man and a woman (when it is not sex – the intention to create offspring), is falling towards the material.

    There really is a need to differentiate those two actions. Lust by gays is no different to lust by straight humans, it reduces the relationship between people to meat. I understood this after 10 years as a meat lover, now I’m freeing myself from it. Human interaction is better and longer lasting on an intellectual and spiritual level – someone should teach the Pope that.

  22. Richard B says:
    @apollonian

    Hoffman: Just Another Charlatan

    The first paragraph’s a dead giveaway.

    While white racism is real and undenaibly exists in pockets in this country (along with anti-Hispanic, anti-white and anti-Asian racism)

    Why is he adopting The AP’s use of capitalizing other races, but putting “White” in small letters? Also, why say something is “real and undeniably exists” without offering any evidence? And what “pockets in this country” is he referring to? What an odd and silly phrase.

    “No nation that twice elected a black man to its highest office is a white supremacist nation.”

    Of course that’s true and it’s good he said it. But, that he said if after not capitalzing White, that he said it after saying White racism exists in certain “pockets” of the country without offering evidence is self-discrediting. With friends like him who needs enemies.

    Oh, and Pope Francis is a joke in Argentina.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Daniel Rich
  23. MrVoid says:

    Anyway, I don’t really know what the author wants. We conservatives need all hands on deck right now, and I don’t think that public policy should have anything to do with Jewish religious texts. That stuff belongs in Israel. What exactly is the author proposing to do? Religious police, Saudi style?

    Anyway, FWIW, even if society were to somehow stop all sodomy once and for all, straight men would still be bothered by bitchy effeminate men. If sodomy were stopped forever, the spectre of faggotry would still haunt us and that’s a deeper problem. Straight acting gay men are rare but don’t pose any problem.

    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  24. @Observator

    No. Jesus is not having fits. He sits on His throne. Watching, and waiting. Stay tuned.

  25. Nodwink says:

    I don’t know how an institution like the catholic church even exists in 2020CE. Enough is enough – shut it down!

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  26. Anon[823] • Disclaimer says:

    “. . .the ONLY guidance in the Bible on guys boinking guys runs, ‘For a man to lie down [as he would with a woman] with another man is an ABOMINATION before God.’” – @Vinnie O

    Homosexuals relentlessly try to make the argument that the “abomination” proscription appears only in Leviticus in the Old Testament, but then you find the condemnation of homoism loud and clear in Romans as well – New Testament.

    “THROUGHOUT the Mediterranean in the Biblical Period, it was FULLY accepted amongst civilized Greeks and Romans was it was NOT POSSIBLE for a man to actually “love” a woman because women were obviously DEFECTIVE men . . .” – @Vinnie O

    You might want to reconsider the term “FULLY accepted.” For example, Alexander’s generals found themselves with a serious public relations problem when the rumors were flying that the Great One was lavender.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
  27. All lives are equal
    But black lives are more equal than others

    St George of the 6 Felonies looked exactly like one of the more, err, protruding jawed, upturned lip pupils. So I knew what even a mainstream search engine would turn up if I put CRIMINAL after his name.

    1 – armed robbery
    2 cocaine
    3 cocaine
    4 cocaine
    5 armed robbery
    6 meth

    My HoD at a Good Catholic School told me they have less & less control over who comes into their own school. Incompetent diverchittey hires are forced on them by (((The Creep State))). Think of Cuckstain as a Palermo Mafioso, using its TLMTTI Power to bully, racketeer & pimp the dumb goy. Even private sector is effected – state power is massive & to get contracts from public srctpr , hr yentas are compulsory. A company couldn’t survive even in the PS hiring only competent NWM. Then their are gormless cucked companies *cough*!!!

    Blacks are the most indulged, mollycoddled & over-promoted group in history. We know this, but even I was shocked at the extent the (((CREEP STATE))) abuses the freedom of White Men, esp wrt Blacks, whilst working as a TA in a supposedly ‘Good Catholic School’ in Londonistan.

    When new vacancy – Asoans recommend Asians, Blax recommend blax, rats recommend anyone but NWM. Only White People are gormless enough to not stand up for themselves. Asked Asian after work drinks about boss – as I suspected he had utter contempt for the disloyal White hags who allow own dept to become TW SHC. They value loyalty + despise these judasrat Karen’s.

    It was like that Chris Jackson article at AmRen. Was shocked when my HoD told us before an upcoming (((OFSTED))) inspection:

    ‘The last inspection criticized us for the underperformance of black boys.’

    Let me repeat: THERE IS A SPECIFIC SECTION OF THE GVT DEMANDING SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR ONE & ONLY ONE DEMOGRAPHIC!!!CC

    WTF should White Schools / teachers / pander to black boys? Obviously teachers aren’t closet BNP + KKK members; most are PC leftists (even in GCSs, tho less so than others). Working in that environment, it became clearer to me the Creep State Rats are basically mafia thugs, abusing & racketeering against anything not enforcing The Cathedral. Basically, each school is intimidated into worrying it’s racist, gives special treatment to black boys, exam boards over mark them – RESULT – The extreme thuggishness & low IQ of BBs is partially disguised.

    Creep State Rats also imposed ‘diverchittey’ recruitment on the school. Part of my attraction to the job was it was my old school / Catholic school. In London, Catholic schools was a good way of escaping too many darkies. BUT NOT NOW. Even tho poor Irish (+spanish, portugese, italiab, polosh) peasants like my mother helped make the school, no longer can we maintain our own demographic. Senior staff informed me they have no power over our own school. Creep State Rats impose third worlders on us. And it doesn’t matter how useless they are. W/o exception, there wouldn’t be a single black member of staff on merit!

    A common trick they use to disguise TW stupidity with the usual rat-dindu tag team vs YT. (Eg principal of The Goldberg’s + ‘Dr’ Holly on Dance Moms MO+HLS=AA.) One very black biology teacher was ‘Dr X’. I’ve long known that TCS’s LMTTI credentializes The Great Replacement. I suspected the common dynamic:

    [MORE]

    1) Look for clever black
    2) Can’t find one
    3) Pick RELATIVELY clever one
    4) Gets crappy undergrad from 3rd rate poly
    5) Rat infestation of higher ed
    6) Education (like all humanities) postgrads = whiney poz BS
    7) Black doctor
    8) Imposed on White School in magical thinking this makes him smart
    9) It doesn’t
    10) Can’t sack him bc WAAAAAAYCIZUM

    Knew this was the case. Asked a fellow supersmart TA (doing PhD in bio at night) at works drinks. He says to me his biology knowledge is weak & regularly makes elementary mistakes in lessons with 14YOs!

    My colleague was a biased stale pale male?
    No. My colleague was a yellow Filipino!!!!

    But this man wasn’t the MoS who shocked me about Rat malevolence. Just dumb incompetent. A nasty SJW witch of an English ‘teacher’ took even someone as already RP’d as me. An utterly repellent personality & demeanor that viscerally repulsed everyone – pupils, teachers, TAs. Think that ghastly frizzy shrew on the SkyNews debate panel show ((((½ black)))) in looks & politics. Everyone HATED her.

    The Deep State manipulation was most obvious with this hysterical shrew. You could hear her classes from anywhere on the same floor, such was the kids’ visceral disgust with her obvious PC hectoring &her total ignorance of disciplinary techniques. For obvious reasons she taught lower ability classes & younger ones – Part of the reason for dumbing down of the curriculum is simply the stupidity of the AA darkies TCS forces on even ‘Good Catholic Schools’ who don’t want them. We had a huge dept – 10+ LSD staff, yet I noticed this particular vile shrew almost NEVER had any of us TAs in her class. The low ability class she taught had lots of statemented pupils. The only possible explanation is the rats don’t get hi on their own supply & wanted to cover up diversitardity & foist darkies on good White institutions DESPITE KNIWING FULL WELL THE INCOMPETENCE!!!

    I was only in her class twice – about 2 weeks apart – so there is NO WAY her hysteria could be blamed on pmt. I generally got to know PMT & none of her behaviours was consistent with it. One of the poems she taught was the very definition of cringey, exactly like that hilarious:

    Mama was chocolate
    Dadda was vanilla
    Me is better

    Crud from Chris Jackson. It was a poem that was obviously chosen by her, as it had ZERO literary value, & was crudely written & demonstrated no sophisticated rhythm or metaphor. Something like:

    A bit of Bangladeshi
    A bit of Jamaica
    A bit of Nigerian
    Make modern Britain

    Exactly what the Creep State wants – no education, no culture, no civility, no quality. Just crude indoctrination. Chris Jackson is right – Homeschool your kids.

    Not once in my time at school – as a pupil or TA – did I hear Beckett or Shaw mentioned. Curriculum is rigidly controlled by pozzed (OFSTED); All about cringey, mawkish black lesbian female authors ’empowering’ w/o reference to quality. No wonder poor w/c White lads fail! 3 main purposes to Cuckstain education:

    1 social engineering
    2 social engineering
    3 social engineering

    We all know 1984 should be compulsory as it reflects today. Not bs by mawkish ch!tyy Shakespeare about lovely widdle fairies running round magic kingdoms sprinkling potions. Don’t get me started on the sanctimonious POS sleeping pill to kill a mockingbird! History is pozzed to + you’d think the Suffragettes were the most important!

    White Boys KNOW they’re being cucked over. Took some statemented/SEN lads for help in a separate room. I never told any of them my politics, yet I had to beg them to stop telling me nog jokes! I was flattered they felt comfortable enough to to that with me. They had a visceral consciousness (even tho most of them were of lesser ability) that the elite rats & dindu thugs like Sanchez/Stirling got priority over them. If ‘No Justice, No Peace’ isn’t the very definition of a chimpout what is! Yet msm tries to portray cultmarxism as ‘young & trendy’. BS! It’s poncey liberal 50+ White ppl who swallow it. WcWM know exactly that they are discriminated against. I really hope those lads weren’t so open with 1 DSR plant in my Dept. Anglo name, not the repulsive anti-nature recessive features of Miriam margargoylis. Many other class teachers tribal. They don’t make it obv, so they needed to be careful about the yebta perma fixture in my dept. Anyone RP knows who she’d favour in a conflict between obligations to goyboys & her chance to get the Diverchittey PColice involved!!!!!!

    Deep down these White lads & dindu baller thugs threatening NO JUSTICE NO PEACE (chimpout) know that dindus + rats can’t compete with Civilized Europeans on merit, so use violence to intimidate, since Whites score higher in civilization, looks, personality, IQ, organization, creativity etc…. NO JUSTOCE NO PEACE – translated into plain English:

    Listen cracka, we’re gonna mess up yo civilization, even tho we’d never dream of going back to our mudhuys, unless you promote 100x higher than our ability, & ruin your own traditions, of free speech, civility,peace ……!!!

    They’re not interested in justice; they’re interested in maintaining their Black Supremacist privilege via distraction. Everyone knows black players get all the major decisions against White players, such is msm & referee PC manipulation. That’s why Sterling/Sanchez keep up their intimidation. Just ask a member of the French Empire of Africa XI & his scandicuck ref. Small simian brain, long simian arms – yeah play basketball if you wanna, I’m so terrified of you calling me racist & chimpingout that you can bouncwyball from trees!!!!!

    Anyone who thinks the dindus are organizing this themselves know nothing about the NAACP. Another vparasite race at the top of society with high IQ & ratlike cunning run pantifa/blm – I see a giant ‘Russian’ Nose growing like Pinocchio from Stamford bridge.

    The main reason for school racial segregation isn’t even IQ pt competence – it’s maturation rates. White kids can be bullied by thugs, tho chronologically same age, is actually aa lot more mature & streetwise. A toxic mix when added to teachers brainwashed to favour ethnic types & (((msm))) psyops making them wanna imitate thugs. HOMESCHOOL!!!

    The kids all called this hysterical new student Englush pgce SJW ‘Avatar’. Never met anyone who elicited such a visceral contempt as her, such was her shtewish, hystetical, incompetrnt, transparent attempts to hector sjw issues into all w/o tact or humour, as a means of neutralising competence. Around this time there was a major (((Hollyweird))) film by that name & she looked just like the main character. Not unusual for kids to give teachers nicknames, it happens to qualified, popular, competent First World teachers too. The hilarious thing was that even the staff called her Avatar! I never knew her name (don’t think she introduced herself). Normally a big taboo about showing a united front in front of pupils. The reason was everyone was so exasperated by her SHC ways – 1) disrupted there own lessons, 2) had to cover her lessons + meetings about her. I knew my (new) HoD was a PC type, with the usual PC airheaded CultMarx bs her demographic had. Yet even she was exasperated at having to cover her lessons & called her ‘Avatar’.

    Looking back, the amount of (((Creep State))) + (((infiltrator staff))) needed to keep her at the school was astonishing! I had seen student teachers who were kicked off their course who were FAR better than her simply bc the experienced staff didn’t rate her. Yet the staff rated Avatar far less. So how did she survive. The dynamics of (((diversity lawyers))) forcing this ‘Good Catholic School’ to be overwhelmed with incompetent Turd Worlders must go like this; the truth of what Kevin MacDonald said about anti-White behaviour being incentivized by the Deep State:

    1) FEEL HATRED A GOOD WHITE SCHOOL EXISTS
    2) CONTACT YOUR ‘FORCED BUSING’ COUSINS IN THE USA TO DESTROY THEM
    3) CREATE LAWS TO FORCE THIRD WORLDERS ON WHITE INSTITUTIONS
    4) LOOK FOR COMPETENT BLACKS
    5) CAN’T FIND ONE
    6) FORCE SHREW ON THEM
    7) EVERYONE HAS VISCERAL HATRED OF HER
    8) SHE IS INCOMPETENT
    9) SCHOOL WANTS RID OF HER
    10) (((CREEP STATE / RIVKA)))) THREATEN TO WITHHOLD PUBLIC FUNDING
    11) HEADMASTER TELLS SENIOR STAFF TO FALSIFY REPORTS ON HER
    12) SENIOR STAFF TELL STAFF TO PASS HER
    13) DIVERSHITTEY LAWS TRUMP COMPETENCE & SHREW GAINS PGCE
    14) REPLACE COMPETENT HEAD WOTH HORSE-FACED C-BUGGER OAF FROM THE OUTBACK

    Looking back now, I think I even OVER-ESTIMATED TW competence. Deep State knew of me & school right-wing rep. Most of us ultimately suspect blax are promoted well beyond their merit in Cuckstain, but I’d’ve thought that among the millions they could’ve found one person to keep up the PozPaganda. But no. Virtually NONE of them would have a ‘suit job’ based on merit. Beforehand, I would’ve guessed about ¼!

    Part of the reasons Poz hates White Men is bc race issues are obvious to him as he is least susceptible to msm psyops. That’s why medicult ‘profession & admin karens mess him over at all stages.

    Kids take ppl as they are SO It’s much harder to brainwash them. The sjw poz-ism is an effect of (((education+msm))) smoke & mirrors. If someone is incompetent, a kid will say it, eben if that person is dark, degenerate, feminist etc…. That’s why the medicults barrier, admin catladies desperately try to discriminate against White Men. We tend to be honest, whereas lower m-c WW are VERY easy for TCS to manipulate. Same with most public sector. I’ve dealt with Londonistan councils for a relative – it’s basically make work for black women. Curriculum + DMV lady in states – WOW – almost as if same group of rats either side of Atlantic transfers wealth from talented, creative hi IQ WM to lazy, dumb obese diversitards. I don’t even live in a diverse borough. But any urban arwas in gbr, guarantee you’ll see blacks overrepped,women overrepped. Do it. Obviously far easier for sinecure council jib than teaching. In teaching, pupils + exam rrsultts catch affirmitard actiinists out!!!!!!!

    Another funny thing was how msm lies (ofc only court history could be taught)were the exact opposite of reality! A friend told me as a NWM there is absolutely no point in me applying for any job in the public sector. As an Irishman it’s almost impossible.

    The school wasn’t to my taste, but my friend told me as an NWM you get what you can. Esp with the bigoted DOBs still allowing discrimination against Irishmat. ANd at our own schools. He said: “if you’re a black, lesbian, fat, disabled, obese hooknose Muslim, the public sector MUST give you a job”. I guess most of us know this, but quite the lengths they go to benefit blacks specifically in education amazed even me!

    One of my main reasons for agreeing to work in that school was Catholic Schools were one of the few places an Irish NWM could get a job w/o abuse & discrimination from the bigoted DOBs (dirty orange britfags). But the bar studs won’t eben let us (my HlD was an Irish woman) choose our own demographic. The DWALBREAKER for me was this, might not have agreed to work for them if I knew how cucked they were + it was actually not a very good school for that (krapp PE dept, no football/cricket, old-fashioned, stuffy, no modern music etc). Take a photoshoot of my dept in a Catholic school most time I was there you’d NEVER guess what it. Was. You might say Hindu, muz, kosher rtv… Like a CM diberchitty wet dream!!! When I say discrimination, I mean NEGATIVE discrimination, such that this was the only job I could get, not what blacks understand by discrimination – AA jobs, BWbeing physicists(!!!!!!!!), msm / ARSE numinous roles, unsackable cuzza ‘DAT be waycist’ rat gvt lawyers/polssticking their giant Nose into got Catholic schools etc…

    Funny thing is the butter BS ofsm poz pwnd just open your eyes. Dunning-Kruger effect is obvious – it was the black boys who complained most about the bio-teacher. (Everyone complained about the Eng-teacher she was so repellent).

    Also sitting in a class I could see how conscious they were of their meritocratic handicap. Whilst assisting an SN child in a low ability class which was about ½ black, I overheard them voicing this. The school streamed the forms in each year by ability – THEre were 6 forms per year, each form was given a ‘House’. The lowest form of each year was called the ‘n’ set (random name so as not to give too much away, tho all the kids knew exactly what went on). The ‘HouseMaster’ of the year put up photos of all the new first year pupils. I must confess that I hadn’t thought much about it until I heard one of the black pupils being taught in the room say to another: ‘see most of the new n set is black’. The school was relatively White for Londonistan standards (10-20% black). Tho most people who came back after being away remarked it was more diverse. (ARSE DE MONTFORT NAUSEATING BOMBAST HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)

    Maybe the HouseMaster was an EVIL STALE PALE MALE using his privilege to undermine the black boys’ conference. He was certainly male. Whether he was stale is open to debate. But he SAF wasn’t pale by Amy definition!!! He was a dark as coal south Indian mathematician. Most of my #2s are lighter than him. In fact, he was darker than most of the African pupils themselves!!!!

    The anti-White dynamics of the public sector were revealed to me during break time whilst supervising the LSD. One of my fellow TAs – a senior black woman was discussing educational psychologists (which our dept had a lot of contact with). She said: ‘So many people have said that I should become an EdPsych. They say it would be easy for me to become one, with so many black boys having problems.’ EPs earn hundreds of pound an hour courtesy of the cucked NWM taxpayer (& loads have infantile grammar, I discovered when proofreading work for my boss). Here we see the perverse incentives that the rats instigate throughout the Cuckstain state sector:

    PANDERING TO & REWARDING BLACK MISBEHAVIOR!!!

    Because of massive TNB we should reward the black community with 1000s of £s. I can easily believe it. All sorts of TNB is indulged to ‘even out’ suspension rates. Teachers are pressurized not to officially discipline blacks, whilst overreacting to White Boys to obfuscate issues. Let me state: one of my fellow TAs was herself a deep state rat plant!

    NOT ONE IF THE BLACK STAFF WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE HAD THEY BEEN WHITE & W/O THE ABUSIVE MICROMANAGING MEDDLING OF (((DEEP STATE RATS)))

    This was all at a school that was resented by the educational establishment & considered ‘right wing’. It wasn’t right wing – most of the staff tended to be almost as brainwashed by Frankfurters as others. Everything is relative. Chatted to a teacher who had taught at ghetto schools in lunch hour a few times. He told me with fear in his voice what those schools are like, the ignorance, violence & poverty. The racial undertones were obvious (he was a White Cockney), but such is the fear of the DS in ed that he couldn’t NTN even off site in casual convoy, such is the trotskyist terror.

    I must emphasize a lot that this was BEFORE The Creepy Gnome turned the RCC into the cuckalick church. When it still expressed the values of the Europeans who developed it.

    NHS (needs to e defunded as much as the BBC) + medicult ‘profession’ in Cuckstain totally pozzed. Major branch of creep state rats screening out WM from teaching to pushCultM. Hi, Matthew Prickey!!!!!

    Every working class White Man in Cuckstain knows that if he’s up against a black man with similar qualifications / experience / personality for a job what the result will be. Even SLIGHTLY better credentials it would be the same result! Before he’d have ANY chance of trumping diversity, pozzers, catladies, retards, rats, (((hr))) & the Creep State he’d have to be SIGNIFICANTLY better credentialed than out numinous friend. That’s why so many NWM don’t even bother & have the worst results – everything in the ‘education’ – really BRAINWASHING INDOCTRINATION – system is designed to abuse him.

    Don’t expect much help from many White female teachers either! Some were good & moral, but many were judasrat brainwashed Stepford Wives. It became so obvious to me why The Creep State likes stacking the public sector (ofc paid by WM taxes) esp ed with Karen’s – latch onto any ideology, gullible, susceptible, disloyal etc… No doubt many of them actively prefer to get blacks results then Whites.

    Ironically the reason we needed Catholic Schools is bc of the NEGATIVE DISCRIMINATION the Irish faced among dirty, hypocritical, orange Britfags. One of the attractions for mr was i thoughtvit might be one of the few places in londpnistan to get away from affirmitards! Poor Irish (& to a lesser extent Spanish/Polish etc…) Peasant families like my own helped to create the values of such schools. I don’t see anyone demanding to go to Rastafarian schools – but then (((forced bussing))) only works 1 way here or in the States! Wasps+Rats in private schools are unaffected, & maliciously impose third worlders on us, being the degenerate jusasratscum they are. As a normal White Irish Man in (((Gross Cuckstain)))) there is no point applying for jobs; my colleagues tell me TDSrats are giving less room – more social engineering, less freedom, more Frankfurter ARSRS growing their huge dirty orange Chavski ‘Russian’ Noses like Abramovich’s nose bending round all those corners.

    Yes ofc throughout the history of the British police normal, upstanding, attractive White Men firmed the Police. But ofc in Cuckstain 6 million laws against that & ‘Russian’ Nose stretches 6 million contortions with ARSE colleagues to prove Cressida Diyk PigScum always were fat, lazy, northern obese black women.

    Rats letting any White Men have freedom of association or meritocracy in anything above 2 ppl – About as likely as a normal White Irish Man seeing a dermatologist on the NHS!!!!!!!

    WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH EASTASIA

    Working class White Man spends years as a construction worker in freezing cold & rain outdoors building a school. On the last day he falls off the roof, breaks an arm & a leg. Can work no more. Wants to retrain as a teacher at the school he built. Trust me – this lad would be SHOCKED at the lengths the Deep State & its brainwashed Karens go to cucked him over… Even tho he built the darn thing & would make a better teacher than half the ‘qualified’ ethnics/Karens there!!!!

    BLACK LIVES MATTER
    WHITE LIVES DON’T MATTER
    IRISH LIVES MATTER LEAST
    BLACK LIVES ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS!!!!!!

    Be careful tho – you can deplatformed as racist for saying WHITE LIVES MATTER!

  28. It is weird that being gay has become something to be celebrated.

    Yes, you are gay. So??? Who gives a fuck one way or the other?

    Stop shouting in my face that you are gay daily, hourly.

  29. @anarchyst

    “Homosexual pedophilia is more rampant among protestant clergy and jewish rabbis, but is never noted as such.”

    There have been articles about the rampant pederasty among the Orthodox Jewish rabbis. My guess is that it is greatly understated and extends to other Jewish faiths as well. It may explain why many Jewish men in general come across as neurotic and speak in a somewhat effeminate tone of voice. Perhaps a great number of them were molested by rabbis in their youth.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Majority of One
  30. astro3 says:

    “. He did however, define marriage exactly as His Father decreed in Genesis 5:2: between a man and a woman.” – did He? The OT does specify that, we agree. JC said ‘Those whom God hath put together let no man part asunder.’ But did He specifically say man and woman? Do please correct me.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  31. utu says:

    “…Lee Harvey Oswald (shot to death in 1963) […] to prevent them from revealing secret…”

    What possible secrets could Oswald reveal – that he was a patsy? This he did: “I am just a patsy”

    Patsies do not know secretes.

  32. BB753 says:

    Don’t blame Bergoglio for this mess. Blame both Vatican I and II Councils, which respectively made the Pope an absolute monarch with the monopoly on absolute truth, while the latter turned the Vatican into a tool of globalism and freemasonry.

  33. Art says:

    Many Catholic boys have a 100% pure vocation for the priesthood – some do not.

    The Church starts looking for priesthood “vocations” at the same time biological puberty occurs among boys (around seventh and eighth grade). The boys that know that they are uninterested in girls, start to look at the priesthood as a life option. Some of those boys are already homosexually aggressive – some are not. It is the most aggressive ones that later become pedophile priests.

    The Church must find a different method of recruitment.

  34. gotmituns says:

    Why can’t a society go back to the old Norse (of course we understand the Arabs would have to use a different method in that there are no bogs in the desert) concept of drowning sodomites in a bog?

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  35. Dark-mark says:

    It’s not just so gay men that are the problem. It is the ‘anally obsessed and fixated’ who are driven purely by their sexual deviance and want to celebrate and spread (no pun intended!) it’s vile practice, while demanding special attention and rights. Contrary to popular belief, gay men are not brave persecuted heroes but simply men who enjoy unsafe promiscuous anal sex with other debased men. They have ‘instant, no strings sex’ in public toilets- choosing partners based on the fact they are also gay so willing to engage in the same disgusting act. Then we are meant to praise them and treat them as equals by allowing them to marry and raise kids. Gay sex was normalised, then trans who are even worse and so mentally ill they are dangerous…what do you think will be next? It’s not a giant leap to paedofiles Orleans minor attraction normalisation .

    Who is lobbying for all these vile liberal practices and funding laws suits to set legal precedent? Surprise it’s the Jews. Wow, who would have thought? It must just be a coincidence that Jews are behind every liberal agenda from Homo rights to mass immigration that are destroying and dividing our society. They don’t even try and hide it any more as they’ve realised white people are too stupid and naive to see what’s happening and why or take action. Films like cuties are just the start….

    • Replies: @gotmituns
  36. I am catholic but in one thing I strongly support protestants.
    Priests should be allowed to marry and have families.
    Also they should be considered to be employees of the state and receive salaries.

  37. Emslander says:

    The boxed excerpt provided by the Jesuits is full of broken-up lines in quotations, obviously masking whatever context they were in. This is another jacked-up crisis created in the nether world in reaction to the naming of a faithful Catholic to the Supreme Court.

    I’ll go to scripture to point out that Christ dined and drank alcohol with taxpayers and prostitutes and a lot of them continued in their sins. Some didn’t, it’s implied, and some did.

  38. @Observator

    The church must cease casting out devils if it wants any respect from the people.

  39. Z-man says:

    The Roman Catholic Church will split over this if not bring on the Second Coming.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  40. Hibernian says:
    @Vinnie O

    And for as little as the Catholic Church concerns itself with specific verbiage from the King James Bible,

    The Catholic counterpart is the Douay Rheims version, translated in roughly the same historical era.

  41. Hibernian says:
    @gay troll

    Jesus Christ came to Earth to nullify the Torah; every one of his teachings in the Gospels contradicts the law of Moses.

    He came not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill the Law. To the adulteress, He said, “Go and sin no more.” He did not condone idolatry, disrespect and/or disobedience to parents, theft, adultery, lying, adultery in the heart, or coveting of goods.

    • Replies: @gay troll
  42. anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    the words of Jesus in John 14:15, “If you love me, keep my commandments.” To rehabilitate homosexual acts, one must nullify the Torah.

    A “few words”: that ain’t the “Torah”, sweetheart. The Gospel of The Good News is not, repeat, NOT “Torah”. Consult John 8:44 for details.

    The case of this pope is clear: he handed political prisoners to state police back home in south america. He can wash as many feet as he pleases, and play nice, but this Pope is a collaborator. He is a Judas.

    “I will lay down my life for my sheep”. Said the Man who these Roman Maximums keep pretending to follow and represent “on Earth”. But this Pope rather handed the sheep and saved his own skin.

    Case closed.

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  43. Hibernian says:
    @Art

    The Church starts looking for priesthood “vocations” at the same time biological puberty occurs among boys (around seventh and eighth grade).

    This was true when I was at that age in the late ’60ss; it ceased to be true soon afterwards. Residential high school level seminaries are gone; nonresidential ones have also been closing and anyway graduated a very small percentage of priests in recent decades. Even at higher levels, candidates are more likely to go to the seminary after college rather than after high school.

    • Thanks: Art
  44. Rhetorically, you ask if we should “welcome” the perverts who entertain incestual notions, i.e. sex with mothers, sisters and daughters, into the tent: well! if you leave it to the sodomites and secular Jews who back them financially, then that’s what you’ll get… it’s only question of time.

  45. 4justice says:

    I would find it enlightening to hear Michael Hoffman’s comments on Cardinal Vigano’s claim of Francis being brought to power by a Soros funded color revolution in the Church brought about by a “deep Church” – thus explaining the previous pope’s “resignation.”
    https://www.trunews.com/stream/archbishop-vigano-trump-fighting-pedo-satanism-freemasonry-deep-state-deep-church-cabal

    Thank you for your courage to explore and report truth, Michael Hoffman. God Blass!

  46. gotmituns says:
    @Nodwink

    There doesn’t have to be any “shutting down.” It’s at the point now of [last guy out, shut the lights off].

  47. @anon

    Is there a warrant out for Bergoglio’s arrest in Argentina? He certainly seems hell bent to avoid going home.

    As an aside, the promotion of the LGBTQ agenda has a real Madison Avenue touch to it. When promoting the gay agenda, they always show energetic bright young things, instead of aging queens with bald heads and beer bellies

    • Replies: @Art
  48. We would prefer to be just as succinct with anti-Pope Francis: “No Catholic pontiff can welcome into the Church those who practice sodomy.”

    We who? Francis is the pope of the catholic church, which you may or may not like, but you have no authority over. So what you think about it has no practical value whatsoever.

    Being homosexual is not a choice. Whether you believe in the Holocaust or not is a choice.

    Case closed.

  49. @gay troll

    every one of his teachings in the Gospels contradicts the law of Moses.

    “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or. the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.”

    – Matthew 5:17

    • Replies: @gay troll
  50. gay troll says:
    @Hibernian

    The law demands that the adultress be stoned to death. Jesus intervenes to prevent imposition of the law. He does tell followers to disrespect and disobey their families, repeatedly. He repeatedly flaunts the sanctity of the Sabbath. Just because he tells the Jews at Matthew 5:17 that he has come to fulfill, not abolish the law and prophets doesn’t mean we should take him at his word. The text of the Gospels makes two things very clear: 1) JC fulfills all Old Testament prophecies 2) Jesus rejects all Old Testament law. He rejects Earthly justice, social status, wealth, and tribalism. He tells the Jews not to resist their enemies and follow him to their deaths. He even condemns his peers repeatedly and promises to return and pass judgment. If anything he has come to steal the Jewish scriptures for Rome and lay a new claim on the “promised” land. He compares the Son of Man to a thief who cannot announce the hour of his coming. Now, I believe in the power of Christ and the pre eminence of the golden rule. But this power and wisdom existed before the Gospels. The Gospels are a satire, they are designed to add insult to injury.

    • Troll: showmethereal
    • Replies: @Hibernian
  51. TKK says:

    Nature is the Great Teacher.

    Ebola was caused by eating bush meat.

    Bushmeat is believed to be the origin of the current Ebola outbreak. The first victim’s family hunted bats, which carry the virus. Could the practice of eating bushmeat, which is popular across Africa, be responsible for the current crisis?

    -Prof Jonathan Ball, a virologist at the University of Nottingham.

    Fruit is sweet to entice us to eat fiber that is needed to put food (the bolus) through our digestive tract.

    Cats and dogs seeks running water over stagnant water. Why? Stagnant water holds more pathogens.

    AIDS originated among the promiscuous gay men, originally called the Gay Man’s Cancer. Patient Zero was a Europen flight attendant who slept with thousands of men in the States and Europe and Sub Sahara Africa. Without the frantic work of scientists, HIV/AIDS would have wiped out gay men.

    What is the riskiest sexual behavior that transmits the most disease? Male to male sodomy.

    Without the artificial IV drip of trillions in cash- DEAD AID- large portions of Sub Saharan African blacks would be dead from starvation, over farming, deforestation, war, corruptions, low impulse control and genetic mental inferiority.

    Nature tries sort all this out. Practitioners of sodomy would die from disease. But humans allow sentiment and mawkish logic to block brute and efficient natural order.

    • Troll: Sya Beerens
    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Michael Vanderford
  52. Fr. John says:

    “Because Francis believes that doubting the existence of execution gas chambers is a grave sin.”

    Oh, so Francis is WRONG…. TWICE!

    https://codoh.com
    http://www.ibiblio.org/team/history/controversy/abutz/

    Mr. Hoffmann, clearly you are of your era. It has been proven, by forensic analysis, chemical analysis, falsified ‘evidence’ and the talmudic rationale of the mythic numerological significance of ‘six million,’ that the Hollow Hoax DID NOT and DOES NOT, EXIST!

    There were MORE Jews in Europe, post-WWII than before! Red Cross figures, numbers of dead, etc.
    Who is the race that lies like their father the Devil? Did you not read John’s Gospel in doing your research?!?

    Oy.

  53. gay troll says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.”

    Matthew 10:34

  54. Emslander says:
    @Hans Karl

    Thanks for the post. In other words, no big deal!

    The Roman Catholic Church, the heart of Christianity, is made up of sinners. I’m tempted by women, sometimes while I’ve got the body and blood of Jesus Christ on my tongue. I ought to be banned from any group of people who want only perfection. That’s why I’m Catholic.

    This is a big nothing.

  55. @JoRizz

    Your God myth is the evil, bloodthirsty Yahweh. This self-created tribal wargod of the ancient Hebrews admits in the First Commandment “I thy God am a jealous god, thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Plain and simple. If this creature was Creator, the message would not have needed to be written on tablets of stone, but etched into our hearts through all time and space. Your spirit has been ensorcelled by yet another aspect of Ahriman.

    • Troll: showmethereal
    • Replies: @Emslander
  56. I’ve read several of Michael Hoffman’s revisionist history articles with great interest and a good dose of skepticism. But after reading this ridiculous — and ridiculously pious — piece of internalized homophobia masquerading as a sermon, my former interest in him and his thinking has vanished completely.

    Anyone who, in the 21st century, can with a straight face refer to “the compassion which Our Lord [note the scare caps] offers to all of us sinners” and preach to the pope (or anyone else) that his stance on homosexuals is “contrary to the law of God” simply cannot be taken seriously. And, by the way, I am not defending Francis, who like the pontiffs before him is just another, if more liberal-minded, huckster of holy hocus-pocus. Wafers (now available with low gluten!) turning into the “body of Christ” you say? Bring out the microscope and let’s see the human cells in these “consecrated” crackers.

    According to the self-righteous Monsignor Hoffman, “Sex is a transgression against divine law on any occasion when it is not between a male and female within the bonds of matrimony.” Do tell! Someone had better remind the “historian” Hoffman that homo sapiens couples — both heteros and homos — were enjoying sex hundreds of thousands of years before the Torah was cobbled up and passed off as holy writ by a deranged desert tribe that practices male genital mutilation.

    Thank you, Ron Unz, for publishing this revelatory piece of self-indictment. I will no longer have to pay attention to Michael Hoffman.

    • Agree: MrVoid, gay troll
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  57. In 1515 Pope Leo X issued a bull permitting interest on loans for the good cause of his Medici relatives’ charity banks (the main charity being the Medici). E. Michael Jones has challenged our assertion that the Church gradually betrayed the dogma banning the renting of money. He did so by alluding to Pope Benedict XIV’s Vix Pervenit, which ostensibly reasserts the immemorial anti-usury teaching of the Bible and the sacred tradition that is in line with it. Dr. Jones missed the “fine print” in this document, however. The pope inserted an escape clause permitting a little bit of interest on loans, if reasonable and necessary in certain situations, rather like permitting whoredom in “extenuating circumstances” so long as the prostitute’s rates are discounted. Usurers, like their brethren in the legal profession, are fairly adept at smelling the odor of situation ethics and reading fine print. Consequently, the historical record shows that usury increased among Catholics after the issuance of the “great and wonderfully orthodox” Vix Pervenit.

    Hoffman’s false assertions about Usury were eviscerated in both full length articles and letters to the editors section of Culture Wars but that does not stop Hoffmann from bearing false witness.
    The truth is that Hoffmann does not understand Usury.

    As to why Hoffmann never tells others what religion he is or to what denomination he belongs to is a persistent silence that speaks volumes.

    • Replies: @aname
  58. http://www.renegadetribune.com/%E2%80%A8e-michael-jones-protecting-goy-judaism-incorporated/

    Why was Savanarola torched? Because the Pope then was a Jew and he sided with the Jews and Usury

  59. Didn’t the Church allow the Franciscans to collect “interest” above and beyond the principal on their mutuum loans to the poor? What about “extrinsic titles?”

    First, it isn’t clear that these loans to the poor were in fact mutuum loans at all (see Question 47). To the extent the Magisterium has made any formal pronouncements on the matter, as far as I have been able to determine they apply to the non-recourse Mountains of Piety, and to titles which arise from matters entirely extrinsic to the contract such as negligence, theft, or fraud (see Question 49).

    There was certainly much discussion of the subject among theologians.

    Some medievals argued (with the wide ranging of opinion typical of the human experience) that certain actual costs incurred by lending (called “extrinsic titles”) could be recovered from borrowers who could afford to pay those costs, in addition to the principal amount of the loan, under certain circumstances. Keep in mind that lending to the poor could range from simply handing a needy man money on the street and asking him to return it when he can, to something more institutional and even to agencies sponsored by the sovereign.

    Borrowing money from the early Franciscan credit agencies was often a way for the down-and-out to get back on their feet, and borrowers would sometimes default anyway — even after getting back on their feet. In addition, various real costs of administering the loans were incurred by the Franciscans, although they themselves lived under vows of poverty. “Extrinsic titles” were allowed, it was argued, because it is unjust to the poor for those who have already benefited from charitable lending to deplete the supply of capital available to lend to those still in need.

    In general the distinction between mutuum loans and other kinds of lending was not always clear in these disputations, and many different kinds of extrinsic titles were proposed and debated. The Franciscan credit agencies were precursors to modern pawn shops, making small non recourse loans with property as security rather than making mutuum loans. Also pertinent to understanding the various disputations is that the medievals were not concerned solely with usury strictly speaking, but with fair treatment in general. Modern commenters tend to introduce ambiguity into the understanding of usury specifically when reading medieval disputations, because of this more general concern with things like just pricing (see Question 50).

    If Bob was on Skid Row and the Franciscans helped him get back on his feet – he now has the means to repay what he borrowed – then the kind of debt he owes is different in kind from a commercial, property based debt. He owes a debt of gratitude and a debt of justice: the former to those who helped him, and the latter to the poor who are still on Skid Row and now need his help.

    If he is ungrateful and stingy and refuses to pay the loan back, even though he has the means to do so, he has committed an injustice. But it isn’t an injustice rooted in property: it is an injustice rooted in charity.

    Whether legal action is or is not warranted in such a case was controversial. The Dominicans thought not and accused the Franciscans of usury, even for attempting to recover the principal in the case of borrowers who could repay but refused, because they sometimes recovered more than just the principal from grateful borrowers. The Pope intervened on the side of the Franciscans with respect to the non-recourse Mountains of Piety, but this obviously does not resolve what kinds of extrinsic titles and licit legal actions might apply in the case of mutuum loans.

    The Dominicans were arguing for their interpretation of Aquinas’ view on the involvement of the civil law; but note that all parties nevertheless agreed about the fundamentally different nature of the inherently gratuitous mutuum loan and the licit-for-profit societas or non recourse investment. A licit mutuum loan does not involve the purchase of a property interest by an investor; it is only ever morally licit as a gratuitous act of friendship. Here is Aquinas:

    Repayment for a favor may be made in two ways. On one way, as a debt of justice; and to such a debt a man may be bound by a fixed contract; and its amount is measured according to the favor received. Wherefore the borrower of money or any such thing the use of which is its consumption [that is, anything which must be returned in kind as opposed to in particular: see Question 35 – Ed.] is not bound to repay more than he received in loan: and consequently it is against justice if he be obliged to pay back more. On another way a man’s obligation to repayment for favor received is based on a debt of friendship, and the nature of this debt depends more on the feeling with which the favor was conferred than on the greatness of the favor itself. This debt does not carry with it a civil obligation, involving a kind of necessity that would exclude the spontaneous nature of such a repayment.

    In practice a duly grateful borrower who has become prosperous through the help of charitable loans himself would become a patron of those same efforts which helped him out of poverty. But this “debt” of gratitude is not a property debt, and by its nature cannot be captured in a fixed rate of interest or other specific monetary amount. The very act of attempting to convert a debt of gratitude or friendship – above and beyond simply what was actually borrowed – into some definite charge of a specific amount of money, puts the lie to attempts to disclaim usury.

    Gratitude or friendship can be truly owed; but gratitude or friendship which can be bought and sold for a specific price is not true gratitude or friendship.

    My own understanding of extrinsic titles is that if they involve an entitlement which would not arise anyway without being included in the contract, they cannot be extrinsic to the contract. Certainly titles which arise from theft, fraud, and negligence could arise independent of the contract. But if a particular title has to be included in the contract in order for it to be a legitimate title, it is by definition not an extrinsic title.

    Didn’t the Church allow the Franciscans to collect “interest” above and beyond the principal on their mutuum loans to the poor? What about “extrinsic titles?”

    First, it isn’t clear that these loans to the poor were in fact mutuum loans at all (see Question 47). To the extent the Magisterium has made any formal pronouncements on the matter, as far as I have been able to determine they apply to the non-recourse Mountains of Piety, and to titles which arise from matters entirely extrinsic to the contract such as negligence, theft, or fraud (see Question 49).

    There was certainly much discussion of the subject among theologians.

    Some medievals argued (with the wide ranging of opinion typical of the human experience) that certain actual costs incurred by lending (called “extrinsic titles”) could be recovered from borrowers who could afford to pay those costs, in addition to the principal amount of the loan, under certain circumstances. Keep in mind that lending to the poor could range from simply handing a needy man money on the street and asking him to return it when he can, to something more institutional and even to agencies sponsored by the sovereign.

    Borrowing money from the early Franciscan credit agencies was often a way for the down-and-out to get back on their feet, and borrowers would sometimes default anyway — even after getting back on their feet. In addition, various real costs of administering the loans were incurred by the Franciscans, although they themselves lived under vows of poverty. “Extrinsic titles” were allowed, it was argued, because it is unjust to the poor for those who have already benefited from charitable lending to deplete the supply of capital available to lend to those still in need.

    In general the distinction between mutuum loans and other kinds of lending was not always clear in these disputations, and many different kinds of extrinsic titles were proposed and debated. The Franciscan credit agencies were precursors to modern pawn shops, making small non recourse loans with property as security rather than making mutuum loans. Also pertinent to understanding the various disputations is that the medievals were not concerned solely with usury strictly speaking, but with fair treatment in general. Modern commenters tend to introduce ambiguity into the understanding of usury specifically when reading medieval disputations, because of this more general concern with things like just pricing (see Question 50).

    If Bob was on Skid Row and the Franciscans helped him get back on his feet – he now has the means to repay what he borrowed – then the kind of debt he owes is different in kind from a commercial, property based debt. He owes a debt of gratitude and a debt of justice: the former to those who helped him, and the latter to the poor who are still on Skid Row and now need his help.

    If he is ungrateful and stingy and refuses to pay the loan back, even though he has the means to do so, he has committed an injustice. But it isn’t an injustice rooted in property: it is an injustice rooted in charity.

    Whether legal action is or is not warranted in such a case was controversial. The Dominicans thought not and accused the Franciscans of usury, even for attempting to recover the principal in the case of borrowers who could repay but refused, because they sometimes recovered more than just the principal from grateful borrowers. The Pope intervened on the side of the Franciscans with respect to the non-recourse Mountains of Piety, but this obviously does not resolve what kinds of extrinsic titles and licit legal actions might apply in the case of mutuum loans.

    The Dominicans were arguing for their interpretation of Aquinas’ view on the involvement of the civil law; but note that all parties nevertheless agreed about the fundamentally different nature of the inherently gratuitous mutuum loan and the licit-for-profit societas or non recourse investment. A licit mutuum loan does not involve the purchase of a property interest by an investor; it is only ever morally licit as a gratuitous act of friendship. Here is Aquinas:

    Repayment for a favor may be made in two ways. On one way, as a debt of justice; and to such a debt a man may be bound by a fixed contract; and its amount is measured according to the favor received. Wherefore the borrower of money or any such thing the use of which is its consumption [that is, anything which must be returned in kind as opposed to in particular: see Question 35 – Ed.] is not bound to repay more than he received in loan: and consequently it is against justice if he be obliged to pay back more. On another way a man’s obligation to repayment for favor received is based on a debt of friendship, and the nature of this debt depends more on the feeling with which the favor was conferred than on the greatness of the favor itself. This debt does not carry with it a civil obligation, involving a kind of necessity that would exclude the spontaneous nature of such a repayment.

    In practice a duly grateful borrower who has become prosperous through the help of charitable loans himself would become a patron of those same efforts which helped him out of poverty. But this “debt” of gratitude is not a property debt, and by its nature cannot be captured in a fixed rate of interest or other specific monetary amount. The very act of attempting to convert a debt of gratitude or friendship – above and beyond simply what was actually borrowed – into some definite charge of a specific amount of money, puts the lie to attempts to disclaim usury.

    Gratitude or friendship can be truly owed; but gratitude or friendship which can be bought and sold for a specific price is not true gratitude or friendship.

    My own understanding of extrinsic titles is that if they involve an entitlement which would not arise anyway without being included in the contract, they cannot be extrinsic to the contract. Certainly titles which arise from theft, fraud, and negligence could arise independent of the contract. But if a particular title has to be included in the contract in order for it to be a legitimate title, it is by definition not an extrinsic title.

    Didn’t the Church allow the Franciscans to collect “interest” above and beyond the principal on their mutuum loans to the poor? What about “extrinsic titles?”

    First, it isn’t clear that these loans to the poor were in fact mutuum loans at all (see Question 47). To the extent the Magisterium has made any formal pronouncements on the matter, as far as I have been able to determine they apply to the non-recourse Mountains of Piety, and to titles which arise from matters entirely extrinsic to the contract such as negligence, theft, or fraud (see Question 49).

    There was certainly much discussion of the subject among theologians.

    Some medievals argued (with the wide ranging of opinion typical of the human experience) that certain actual costs incurred by lending (called “extrinsic titles”) could be recovered from borrowers who could afford to pay those costs, in addition to the principal amount of the loan, under certain circumstances. Keep in mind that lending to the poor could range from simply handing a needy man money on the street and asking him to return it when he can, to something more institutional and even to agencies sponsored by the sovereign.

    Borrowing money from the early Franciscan credit agencies was often a way for the down-and-out to get back on their feet, and borrowers would sometimes default anyway — even after getting back on their feet. In addition, various real costs of administering the loans were incurred by the Franciscans, although they themselves lived under vows of poverty. “Extrinsic titles” were allowed, it was argued, because it is unjust to the poor for those who have already benefited from charitable lending to deplete the supply of capital available to lend to those still in need.

    In general the distinction between mutuum loans and other kinds of lending was not always clear in these disputations, and many different kinds of extrinsic titles were proposed and debated. The Franciscan credit agencies were precursors to modern pawn shops, making small non recourse loans with property as security rather than making mutuum loans. Also pertinent to understanding the various disputations is that the medievals were not concerned solely with usury strictly speaking, but with fair treatment in general. Modern commenters tend to introduce ambiguity into the understanding of usury specifically when reading medieval disputations, because of this more general concern with things like just pricing (see Question 50).

    If Bob was on Skid Row and the Franciscans helped him get back on his feet – he now has the means to repay what he borrowed – then the kind of debt he owes is different in kind from a commercial, property based debt. He owes a debt of gratitude and a debt of justice: the former to those who helped him, and the latter to the poor who are still on Skid Row and now need his help.

    If he is ungrateful and stingy and refuses to pay the loan back, even though he has the means to do so, he has committed an injustice. But it isn’t an injustice rooted in property: it is an injustice rooted in charity.

    Whether legal action is or is not warranted in such a case was controversial. The Dominicans thought not and accused the Franciscans of usury, even for attempting to recover the principal in the case of borrowers who could repay but refused, because they sometimes recovered more than just the principal from grateful borrowers. The Pope intervened on the side of the Franciscans with respect to the non-recourse Mountains of Piety, but this obviously does not resolve what kinds of extrinsic titles and licit legal actions might apply in the case of mutuum loans.

    The Dominicans were arguing for their interpretation of Aquinas’ view on the involvement of the civil law; but note that all parties nevertheless agreed about the fundamentally different nature of the inherently gratuitous mutuum loan and the licit-for-profit societas or non recourse investment. A licit mutuum loan does not involve the purchase of a property interest by an investor; it is only ever morally licit as a gratuitous act of friendship. Here is Aquinas:

    Repayment for a favor may be made in two ways. On one way, as a debt of justice; and to such a debt a man may be bound by a fixed contract; and its amount is measured according to the favor received. Wherefore the borrower of money or any such thing the use of which is its consumption [that is, anything which must be returned in kind as opposed to in particular: see Question 35 – Ed.] is not bound to repay more than he received in loan: and consequently it is against justice if he be obliged to pay back more. On another way a man’s obligation to repayment for favor received is based on a debt of friendship, and the nature of this debt depends more on the feeling with which the favor was conferred than on the greatness of the favor itself. This debt does not carry with it a civil obligation, involving a kind of necessity that would exclude the spontaneous nature of such a repayment.

    In practice a duly grateful borrower who has become prosperous through the help of charitable loans himself would become a patron of those same efforts which helped him out of poverty. But this “debt” of gratitude is not a property debt, and by its nature cannot be captured in a fixed rate of interest or other specific monetary amount. The very act of attempting to convert a debt of gratitude or friendship – above and beyond simply what was actually borrowed – into some definite charge of a specific amount of money, puts the lie to attempts to disclaim usury.

    Gratitude or friendship can be truly owed; but gratitude or friendship which can be bought and sold for a specific price is not true gratitude or friendship.

    My own understanding of extrinsic titles is that if they involve an entitlement which would not arise anyway without being included in the contract, they cannot be extrinsic to the contract. Certainly titles which arise from theft, fraud, and negligence could arise independent of the contract. But if a particular title has to be included in the contract in order for it to be a legitimate title, it is by definition not an extrinsic title.

    https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/2014/11/10/usury-faq-or-money-on-the-pill/#13

  60. @Hapalong Cassidy

    judaic male neuroticism is primarily predicated upon the “Bris”, particularly the bris millah, where the Mohel sucks off the wounded weenie which he has just emasculated in the 8th day ritual.

    As the infant has had opportunity to bond with his mother, the psychosexual embededment of this combination of subconsciously assumed abandonment by her and the male gratification of his attenuated member frequently leads to a lizard-brain empowered neurosis. This neurotic ambivalence towards relationships with the opposite sex is revealed in the public (and presumably private) personas of the likes of Woody Allen and Jerry Lewis

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @showmethereal
  61. TKK says:
    @TKK

    Poor Sya!

    He/she/it likes sexual acts that involve human feces.

    Whew, that’s gross.

  62. @gotmituns

    Any substantiation for that? “Argyr” was not regarded among the Vikings as a capital offense, but to some, more of a laughing matter. Basically, samesex did not much bother them until after they had been forcibly converted to Catholicism by the likes of Hellig Olaf Trygvasson.

    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  63. Hibernian says:
    @gay troll

    Jesuitical casuistry on steroids.

    • Replies: @gay troll
  64. @TKK

    Long time lurker. Smart post.
    Who dies the most from SARS Covid 19?
    Obese patients.

  65. @Major Hancock

    “…But after reading this ridiculous — and ridiculously pious — piece of internalized homophobia masquerading as a sermon..”

    There is no “masquerading” involved at all. Hoffman’s opinion about sex in general and homosexualty in particular is entirely Biblical. See : Wikipedia, The Bible and homosexuality for unequivocal condemnations of homosexuality both in the OT and the NT. If you are a homosexual and want to be a Christian at the same time, you have a problem. The Bible has not.

    Illustration:

  66. Hibernian says:
    @Zarathustra

    Your second sentence should be amended to say that the priests shall marry first and be ordained second. That is the practice of the Eastern Church. Your third sentence is a disaster which has already been tried, sort of like Communism.

  67. Realist says:

    The head butt boy of gay priests is promoting homosexuality…what a surprise.

  68. @Zarathustra

    Employees of the state will do the mandate(s) of the state, regardless of scriptural truth. The Lutheran Church in Germany during Hitler is a classic example. Here in Amerika, the Evangelical, Happy-Clappy, song-and-dance Protestant mega-churches churches are, for the most part, Romans 13 robots. Google: CLERGY RESPONSE TEAM. The only exception which I have found, is Pastor Chuck Baldwin, out of Kalispell, MT.
    I was born and raised as a pre-Vatican II catholic. While in high school(1961-1965) I was subjected to the satanic propaganda of Roncalli(John XXIII), and the JFK-worshipping faculty(Oblates of Mary Immaculate) at my high school in SoCal. Once Pandora’s box was opened, TPTB could not close it. It all involved money. Prosperity in Amerika brought indolence and selfishness. Why be a priest? It’s not “normal” anyway! So, Mother Church rolled over and gave their whining, spoiled, matriarchal congregations what they wanted: Sex, drugs, and rock-and-roll; just like secular Amerika during the 1960’s. They had to keep up with the degenerate times, and they wound up recruiting degenerates to be priests.
    In response to the poster who stated Jesus must be having fits, another poster commented that this is not so. HE is sitting on HIS Throne watching and waiting. I am reminded of an old hymn which begins : “Once to every man and nation…” the last stanza reads: “…though the cause of evil prosper, yet tis truth alone is strong; though her portion be the scaffold and upon the throne be wrong, yet the scaffold sways the future, and behind the dim unknown, standeth God within the shadow, keeping watch above his own.” Bleib ubrig, my brother in Jesus Christ.

  69. @gay troll

    A eunuch is asexual. Anyone who is equates eunuchs with sodomites is either an idiot or a liar. Which one are you?

    • Agree: Poco
    • Replies: @gay troll
  70. @Majority of One

    The Vikings were true barbarians. Besides tolerating sodomy, as barbarians are wont to do, they plundered, pillaged, vandalized, raped, and murdered.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
  71. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    The only time homosexualism is not a choice is in the case of homosexual rape. You may argue that homosexual attraction is not a choice, but it seems a lot of it has to do with how fashionable it is in a given society. Apparently many, if not most, ancient Greeks practiced homosexualism, as do (or did) most inhabitants of the oasis of Siwa. In other societies, homosexualism is much rarer. Therefore, it seems illogical that homosexual attraction is purely biological, and it may not be biological at all. The fact is that scientists have searched in vain for a definitive genetic or physiological link to homosexualism. Anyone, like you, who affirms homosexuality is not a choice, as if such a thing had been proven, is ignorant and dogmatic.

    • Agree: Verymuchalive
  72. Agent76 says:

    The Descendants of Adam

    1. This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, He made him in His own likeness.

    2. Male and female He created them, and He blessed them. And in the day they were created, He called them“man.”

    3. When Adam was 130 years old, he had a son in his own likeness, after his own image; and he named him Seth.…

    https://biblehub.com/bsb/genesis/5.htm

    Oct 7, 2014 Catholic Social Injustice

    The Vatican’s top social justice agency is giving leadership to an organization that pushes communism, abortion, and homosexuality.

  73. While I realize Protestants and maybe Orthodox and other Christian ministers, priests, etc. do to some extent engage in sodomy, IMHO the Catholic Church (and I was born into it…thank God I was “born again” so to speak!) did it to themselves by NOT allowing priests, bishops, etc. to marry! This goes back over 1,000 years and I’d say if Francis is gay or whatever he likely “grew up with it” as well. How Roman Catholicism can claim to practice what Christ preaches and yet not allow its ministers to marry is beyond me! Memo to Mr. Hoffman–stick to writing books like “They Were White and They Were Slaves”….those kind of books….–from a woman descended from Scots-Irish indentured servants.

    • Thanks: showmethereal
  74. 1. From ‘gay rights’ to Gay Rites. It’s been said the West is becoming irreligious. No, it’s now a theocracy of satanism with Sodomania as the highest value, along with Negro and Jew worship.

    2. Jews were the main force behind globo-homo. It’s a way for Jews to reinforce minority-elite-supremacism. As homos are minorities all over the world, any society that puts homos on a pedestal puts minority before majority. This complements Jewish minority-supremacist power. Also, as homos are alienated from their own societies, they make ideal collaborators of Jewish Globalist Power.

    3. Jews hated Christianity for historical reasons and for being a bastion of conservative values. The church was, at one time, the main force against globo-homo. Jews figured there are two ways to deal with this problem. Bring down the church and discredit it with scandals mocking caricatures, and secular arguments. Or change it from the inside. Turn the church globo-homo, and there is no effective force against the ‘gay’ agenda, especially as secular ‘conservatives’ only care about power and money and will suck up to anyone on top. Also, a christianity that’s gone globo-homo is spiritually dead. No sane religion celebrates sodomy and tranny-penis cutting in houses of worship.

    4. Any institution is more about personnel than principles. There is nothing in Christianity that would celebrate sinners and sodomy. Jesus opened His heart to everyone, even murderers and rapists, but IF they repented and sought redemption. So, all this globo-homo stuff has nothing to do with church doctrine or principles. But, that doesn’t matter as any institution is really controlled by people inside. If satanists take over the church, it will become satanist. If capitalists take over a communist government, it will practice capitalism. If communists take over a capitalist industry, they will run it along communist lines. If Supreme Court is taken over by radicals or Jewish supremacists, it will do away with free speech, gun rights, right of assembly, and etc EVEN IF those are guaranteed in the Constitution. People of Power decide, not core principles. So, if catholic church is taken over by globo-homo types, it is globo-homo. It doesn’t matter what church doctrine says. This is why ‘muh constitution’ types are misguided. They really believe laws and policies are governed by principles. No, they are decided by power. Jews took over US institutions and used their power to shut down BDS, suppress free speech, and promote tribal supremacism of Zion. Such are NOT guaranteed in the Constitution, but Jews do it cuz they got power. They even passed ‘gay marriage’ through the Supreme Court. Where is that in the Constitution? People of Power can just cook stuff up. It’s like Stalin had the power to make a pact with Hitler even though it went against communist principles. In this sense, fascism has a better understanding of how things really work. Power is the ‘principle’ of history.

    5. If the masses were at odds with the elites, then People of Power would have far more difficulty doing as they please. In other words, even if all the institutions were pro-homo, they would have had a hard time pushing ‘gay marriage’ in the 50s, or even in the 60s and 70s as too many people would have been outraged. So, popular will matters. But then, popular will, especially in the age of mass media and public education, is molded by POP or people of power. They decide on the Narratives that young ones grow up with. They churn out pop culture and movies and TV shows that affect how people feel about things, what kinds of images and idols dominate their minds. And Jews have control of mass culture and pushed ‘gay’-as-angel stuff to the masses. As most people are sheeple, they fell for it.
    It’s like, on the eve of the Cultural Revolution, Mao had both institutional/military power and mass-youth power because the youths were molded by Maoist propaganda. And Jews got that kind of control. They rule from the top, and they also mold the hearts and minds of the masses. And what have conzos been doing about this all these years? “Muh Israel” and “Gay Marriage is now a conservative value.”

    6. There are two kinds of people. The Easies and the Hards. The Easies are push-overs. Easily molded by public education, advertising, fads and fashion, state propaganda, and political correctness. Most ‘liberals’ today are Easies. They are so easy to influence. They are so trusting of elite institutions, so into status-consciousness, and so into the conceit of being ‘progressive’ that they fall for anything packaged as ‘new’ and/or for ‘social justice’. So, if a man can be a ‘she’ or even a ‘they’, they just go along with it without thought. They are Easy. As even intelligent ‘liberals’ fall for this, Easiness is less a matter of IQ than sense of self and conviction. Easies have weak individual sense, racial consciousness, and culture/roots. They’ve been uprooted but hardly inculcated with the importance of individuality and critical thinking. A rootless person with strong individuality and critical mentality wouldn’t be so easy. He may not be conservative but he won’t fall for every fad and fashion either. But today’s ‘liberals’ have not only been uprooted but denied individuality and criticality. That means they’ve been made Easy to any fad/fashion but, lacking any sense of individuality, they latch onto the emotionalism of PC. In a way, so-called ‘wokeness’ is paradoxical. Ideologically, it is so flimsy and often change at the drop of a hat. And yet, its minions are puritanically impassioned about it. Now, how can anyone be SO SURE about an ideology that is changing all the time, often contradicting itself, and/or going from one outrage to another at breakneck speed? One season, the outrage is over ‘those poor immigrants’. Next season, the immigrants have all been forgotten and it’s about ‘gays’. Then, the ‘gays’ are neglected and the new outrage is about the Negroes. Then, it’s about trannies. Then, it’s Me-Too. Then, it’s something else and etc. People who would have scoffed at the notion of Bruce Jenner as a ‘woman’ are suddenly SO SURE that he is one, and YOU BETTER AGREE too or else you’re a ‘transphobe’. So much conviction with so little consistency. How can this be? It’s because PC is essentially amnesiac. It instills people with a righteous sense of outrage but without roots/heritage and/or individuality/criticality. Conservatives argue for roots/heritage. Classical liberals and libertarians argue for strong sense of individuality. PC rejects both and calls for Collective Outrage over the latest ‘injustice'(to be decided by the Power). PC minions are game for this because they have no roots and weak sense of self. They are neither like Pat Buchanan or Ayn Rand. Whatever one feels about Buchanan, he has a strong and hard sense of tradition and heritage to deflect the forces of fashion. Whatever one thinks of Ayn Rand, she believed in the power of the individual to think for himself/herself. She refused to agree with anyone under pressure. But lacking such qualities, PC minions have a kind of passion without roots and criticality. It’s a passion of amnesia that just conforms to the latest fads. It creates a population that is ‘Easy’ but also Queasy. They are so Easily molded by the Power but feel so powerfully queasy about anything that won’t jibe with the latest outrage. They have puritanical zeal but are blind to how impure in sense and reason their supposed ‘ideology’ is — it is actually more a idolatry of Jews, homos, and blacks, thus a kind of Tri-Supremacism. In a way, Easy-Queasies are like dogs. Notice dogs can be made to bark/bite at ANYTHING. Their emotions of servitude to master overrides everything else. Even though most Jews are ‘liberal’, they are not easy-queasy. If anything, the push the Easy-mentality on the goyim because, deep down inside, they are Hard-minded about their own tribal identity and interests. Jewishness is hardcore tribal supremacism wrapped in ‘liberal’ clothing.

    The Easy-Queasies hate the Hards. If Easies have soft clay heads that are molded by the Jewish hand, the Hards are hard-hats who are tougher to crack. Some are hard due to sense of heritage or tradition. People like Buchanan are true Catholics with a deep sense of church history and values. They won’t cower to the latest fad or outrage. Others are hard for reasons of individual pride. They believe that right-or-wrong and good-vs-bad must be a matter of individual reasoning and conviction. It shouldn’t be decided by popular outrage or political pressure. These individuals may disagree with one another, but each of them is Hard in that he or she trusts himself/herself than pressure from above or below or from their peers.
    This is why Jews like the Easies and hate the Hards. Easies are easy to control, whereas the Hards have their own ideas rooted in tradition or individuality. Of course, there are Hard-Tards as well, such as moronic Creationists or the ‘god hates fags’ crowd who simply won’t believe the science that homos are born that way. Being dogmatic or stubborn for the hell of it isn’t a good way to be Hard. There are also the Hard-Lards, those who seem to be Hard but are actually all talk and no walk. All those ‘right-wing’ talk show hosts sure talk big but usually just fold when push comes to shove. Donald Trump is hard-lard. He acts tough and talks big but usually caves in the end. ‘Muh Israel’.

    • Agree: Zarathustra
    • Replies: @Presocratic
  75. Getaclue says:
    @Art

    The Church was/is very infiltrated by Masons/Satanists(Communists) (Pecorelli’s list named many of them https://www.facebook.com/mariancorpsofst.piusx/posts/pecorellis-list-alleged-freemasons-in-the-vaticanfrom-metapediaorgthe-pecorelli-/317625062033518/ — he was then murdered within 2 weeks of releasing the list, no one doubts that it was/is accurate) — Cardinal Bernardin is a prime example (credibly accused of 2 Black Masses where 2 different children were raped by him, flaming homosexual– over $3 million paid out to a man who died of AIDS and Bernardin reportedly died of the same though it was covered up of course as was much of what he did, he recruited in many of the worst Bishops who “reign” today….) — do some research — there has been a war against the Church by the Masons/Satanists(Communists) that has gone on for hundreds of years now…it is well documented if you look, certain Popes warned as to it….

    This was all done on purpose — it didn’t just happen as you outline it — Bernardin was a homosexual/Satanist who was recruited into the Church/Clergy by others of his ilk already in (some of those later were shown to be just this….) — the idea was to destroy the Church from the inside as the final battle of Satan against the Church that has raged for 2,000 years now. Pope F was chosen by the St. Gallen Mafia (their own name for themselves) — a group of Cardinals made up of infiltrated in Masons/Communists and most probably Satanists. This is how Pope F came into power, by these people.

    We are now seeing the rot/infiltration of the Church that was hidden made obvious for all to see — upcoming in the not too distant future will be the stunning fall/destruction of all of these by the hand of God who refuse to convert from their Satanic ways. This, below link, happened and few know about it, I understand Pope F then destroyed those who revealed what happened at the Exorcism– no doubt it was the part where Satan is forced to tell the truth which occurs in all Exorcisms?: https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/7367/vatican-investigates-catholic-group-after-exorcism-claim-that-francis-is-devil-s-man

  76. How did this lunatic of a pope manage to get where he is unless he was “selected”? He didn’t have the power to select himself so if anyone is to blame it’s those who did and that begs the question as to why.

  77. @astro3

    Ephesians 5:31
    King James Version

    Jesus speaking:

    31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

  78. Emslander says:
    @Majority of One

    “I thy God am a jealous god, thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Plain and simple

    Which is why you ought to be a little more careful about your blasphemy.

    • Replies: @MrVoid
    , @Majority of One
  79. Just as pederasty is contrary to created nature, so is compulsory celibacy. – Alejandro Grace Ararat

    t’s irrefutable that almost the entire infiltrators and perverted criminals from within the Roman curia and Vatican prefer to worship lucifer, abuse children, and to burn with the carnal union of males with males against nature, literally, the abomination of pederasty instead of being willing to have a wife as Peter did. Thus, the last thing the rulers of the entire system of the Vatican and Roman Curia want, is for the masses to learn about the fact that Peter had a wife and was married as recorded my the New Testament or gospel.

    And Jesus having come into the house of (apostle) Peter, SAW peter’s-wife’s mother (equivalent to the apostle Peter’s mother-in-law) laid and fevered, and Jesus touched her hand, and the fever left her, and peter’s wife’s mother arose, and ministered/served unto them. Matt 8:14

    After Jesus had left the synagogue, He went to the house/home of Simon, whose mother-in-law was suffering from a high fever. So they appealed/addressed to Jesus on her behalf, Then he stood over peter’s wife’s mother, and rebuked the fever, and it (the fever) left her, and immediately she arose, and ministered/served unto them.
    Luke 4:38-39

    and the mother-in-law of the apostle Peter (also known as Simon) was lying fevered, and promptly they told him about her, and having come near, Jesus raised her up, having laid hold of her hand, and the fever left her immediately, and she was ministering/serving to them. (Mark 1:30-31)

  80. @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Even if Bergoglio is only offering his personal opinion, the fact remains that the Roman pontiff, even a narcissistic Jesuit, hasn’t the competence to change centuries of official Catholic doctrine. He has as much authority to alter the Church’s teaching on faith and morals as he does to declare that Jesus prefers Brocoli over carrots or that the Holy Spirit always likes vanilla ice cream with his birthday cake.

    If Bergoglio were just a private parish priest in the slums of Buenos Aires, he would be just a very silly man. Because he is(?) the Roman Pontiff, carelessly spouting his personal nonsense becomes graver.

  81. @Ray Caruso

    Caruso, Caruso, such an archetype of ignorance. The Viking incursions began after Charlemagne destroyed the Old Saxon remnants of Germanic spiritual traditions. He gave his captives a choice: Either accept the overlord, the Holy Roman Empire, and the cross or die at the sword. More than 5,000 of the defeated Saxons chose death over enserfment.

    Once the Danes found out about this monstrous extension of imperialist Crosstianity, they immediately built an earthen wall right across the southern reaches of the Jutland peninsula which they called the “Danevirke”. Behind their barrier they built barracks at every few kilometers which were occupied by some of their most stout warriors. Then a conference including representatives from all the Nordic peoples was called in Scania. The confab included the Scanians, the Danes, the Jutes, the Angles, the Goths, the Svears and the Norse. A decision was reached at that time to make war on the cross-bearing imperial enemy.

    Choice of targets was the third largest city in Charlemagne’s empire, their major port and the location of their mint, where silver coins with the emperor’s image “graced” the obverse side. Name of the city was Dorestad.

    Early one foggy morning, manning the ramparts at the docks a sentry cried out: “Ein Drachen, din andere drachen–viele drachens.” “A dragon, another dragon, many dragons!” What he saw, emerging from the mists were prows of the “Langskips”–the longships. Led by their berserkers (husky hulks all clad in fresh-killed bear “shirts” (berserker), the Viking warriors stormed out of their vessels and promptly assailed the city. Those who did not surrender were promptly dispatched. The entire horde of silver and coinage was seized. The churches and the whole of the city were ransacked and demolished. Dorestad never recovered. The empire was short of coinage for the next few years. The cultural war between the Empire and the protectors of Nordic traditions was on.

    The imperialists and their imposed religion — one contrary to the spiritual traditions predicated on unity with the natural world–were regarded as the enemies of the people of the north. The raids and incursions were accelerated. It took over 200 years before that storm was over and the Nordic people taken down by the development of monarchy and the growing connexions between the rulers and the Continental elite, with the gradual incursions of Crosstianity and the destruction of the natural order in those northern lands.

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  82. gay troll says:
    @Hibernian

    Read the Gospels and see what they say. They say Jesus is a Jew. They say Jesus only came to minister to sinners and Jews, whom Jesus calls the “evil generation”. Jesus says judgment will fall upon the evil Jews, and foretells the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus. Jesus appropriates the Hebrew word for adversary (satan) and applies it to Yahweh. Christians have this impression that the Jews strayed from the law of Moses and Jesus came to redeem them. So tell me, which part of the law of Moses were the Jews neglecting? Which teaching of Jesus Christ does not actually contradict the Mosaic law? Moses enforces tribal chauvinism, JC advocates universal brotherhood. Moses says honor your father and mother, Jesus says forsake your family. Moses says get a writ of divorce, Jesus says stay married forever. Moses says take an eye for an eye, Jesus says turn the other cheek and pluck out your own eye. Moses details numerous laws governing personal property, Jesus says to give up your personal property entirely. Moses says to stone the adultress, and Jesus says to spare her. He tells his followers not to judge the crimes of others, that judgment belongs to his Father alone. What is the point of Earthly laws if, according to JC, they should not be enforced on Earth? A careful reading of the Gospels proves that Jesus Christ is deceiving or fooling the Jews, using their own scriptures to negate their beliefs. He is not actually the Messiah, as proven by the fact that he is not the seed of Joseph’s Jewish forefathers, but the offspring of a holy wind. He pointedly refuses to confirm or deny whether he is really the Messiah. He is an impostor. Only Jews are meant to believe in him. The fact is that Judaism promises an Earthly kingdom for a chosen people. Jesus Christ, as he destroys it, promises a heavenly kingdom for all.

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    , @ploni almoni
  83. gay troll says:
    @Ray Caruso

    You say a eunuch is asexual, but you are incorrect, eunuchs may have sexual desires. You say there is no connection between eunuchs and oral/anal sex, you are again incorrect, eunuchs were used as concubines by male rulers. A eunuch is someone who has had their testicles removed, but Jesus says some men are born eunuch. You cannot have your testicles removed before you are born, therefore Jesus must be using the term “born eunuch” as a euphemism for something else. Jesus is clearly saying that some men are born in such a way that they will never be attracted to women. He is articulating the notion of sexual orientation.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  84. anon[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @gay troll

    Correct, the taboo against homosexuality is quintessentially Jewish.

    Many civilizations consider penetrating another via the rectum to be unhealthy, unnatural, and deviant. It’s just common sense. God did try and help out by making the said orifice ugly and nasty but alas.

    You are also mistaken about Jesus of Nazareth’s views on Mosaic laws and prophetic injuctions. The original Mosaic injunction was for a “holy nation” and the laws were “[spiritual] purity laws”. As Jesus noted to the crowd bent on stoning an adultress, “Let the first without sin cast the first stone”. His point, illustrated by the fact that no one, not even the rabbid pharisees in pursuit of the adulteress, picked up a stone, was that their community was NOT a “holy nation”. In context of a generally sinful and spiritually mixed-up population (as were his audiance), stoning someone for having illicit sex is barbaric and hypocritical.

    He did tell her to “sin no more”.

  85. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Michael Hoffman

    Day by day the Novus Ordo looks more and more like Talmudic Judaism:

    http://judaism.is/pedophilia-and-sodomy.html

    • Agree: Kolya Krassotkin
  86. aname says:
    @mick jagger gathers no mosque

    I read that Hoffman is a Catholic, although not sedevacantist.

  87. mike k says:

    Gay bashers have a million arguments to justify their hatred of fellow humans. I guess their absence of relationships with gays gives them freedom to imagine horrible strawmen to excoriate.

    • Replies: @aname
  88. Savonarola was not burn by the Pope, but by Medici.
    MH was not right.

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    , @Seraphim
  89. gay troll says:
    @anon

    Worthless anon, do you think that in a “holy nation” it would be justice to stone someone for having illicit sex? That is what you imply. Do you think if Jesus had been in the presence of holy men he would have allowed them to kill the adultress? Are you saying it would be less barbaric and hypocritical for holy men to kill a woman? I think you are missing Jesus’s point, which is that executing an adultress can never be a righteous act.

    • Agree: MrVoid
    • Replies: @showmethereal
  90. @apollonian

    “Observe Hoffman follows-up his thesis babbling w. just more babbling”

    I much prefer his just more babbling than his thesis babbling. The thesis seemed overly concerned with males engaged in sodomy; a subject I have little interest in unless it is an indicator of a ritual of the Babylonian system that has plagued and informed Western civilization since its inception. His follow-up comment contained thoughts directly on the “Cryptocracy” (Babylonian system), a subject which helps define the elite networks that continue to wreak havoc upon humanity.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  91. Possumman says:

    No longer will you be able to say “Is the Pope Catholic?” You will have to stick to bears-and the woods.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  92. zimriel says:
    @Lin

    I don’t know what Pope Paul II did in his private life. I do know the official autopsy was cardiovascular, not colorectal. His most-likely sin was gluttony, not lust.
    He doesn’t seem to have been a decadent, overall. He supported the printing-press and banned the vendetta (or tried to).
    There are plenty of pornocrat popes to mock, but I wouldn’t class Paul II in them.

    • Replies: @Lin
  93. Dumbo says:

    This Pope is a dope.
    He’s also a commie, much more interested in politics than in religion (in fact, I doubt he even believes), and possibly a homosexual too.

    “Is the Pope Catholic”
    No.
    And, increasingly, bears forced out of their habitat also don’t shit in the woods but on the streets.

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  94. @Richard B

    Why is he adopting The AP’s use of capitalizing other races, but putting “White” in small letters?

    “Asian” and “Hispanic”, whatever they may be, are not races. He doesn’t capitalize “black”, either. (Or even use “yellow” or “brown”.) This is the traditional orthography, used by Winston Churchill, Theodore Roosevelt, Lothrop Stoddard, and other advocates of whites who could actually write, and with style.

    Why is he adopting The AP’s use…

    Why are you implying we must switch to Jet Magazine‘s?

    Write like a white man, not a wigger.

    • Troll: Richard B
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  95. @gay troll

    He is articulating the notion of sexual orientation.

    Or, to be accurate, an orientation away from sex. Heterophobia, in the literal sense.

  96. Dumbo says:
    @anon

    Many civilizations consider penetrating another via the rectum to be unhealthy, unnatural, and deviant. It’s just common sense. God did try and help out by making the said orifice ugly and nasty but alas.

    People and in particular women love to talk about “love is love” (implying that gays are equal in their ‘love’ to male-female unions, but they rarely mention the ugly fact of anal sex (and other even more disgusting practices of some homosexuals, not to mention their much greater promiscuity).

    Gays should not be hated. Christians rarely “hate” gays. The correct answer is pity and compassion. It’s very sad to be gay, to have a deviant attraction to your own sex, and to perform unhealthy acts such as receiving a penis in your rectum, which with repeated times leads it to its slow destruction (hint, it’s not a vagina).

    I know some gay people, they are nice, clever, artistic, etc. but they also have several mental and psychological problems, suffer from depression or anger, have tried suicide, etc. “Transexuals” tend to be even worse, they may be a lost cause.

    “Sin is its own punishment”. The best cure for homosexuality is to stop having gay sex. And being celibate, because marrying a woman will just make her unhappy. I don’t know what else can be done. But certainly “gay marriage” is not helping, quite the opposite, it will only make gays unhappier, because their unions will never be ‘just like a male and a female’ (just as blacks will never be white, etc).

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  97. aname says:
    @Michael Hoffman

    I think the charging of interest is a slippey slope. It can be abused, yet a borrower not having to pay interest can be an abuse. To compare usury to sodomy is a huge leap. Sodomy under all circumstances is a grave sin. There are no gray areas there.

  98. I’d be tempted to say, “Will no one rid us of this turbulent priest,” but I know how that worked out in the case of Henry II and Thomas Beckett.

  99. MrVoid says:
    @Emslander

    “I thy God am a jealous god, thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Plain and simple

    Which is why you ought to be a little more careful about your blasphemy.

    I believe that it’s wrong to blaspheme in general because it hurts people’s feelings, but if the Judeo-Christian demon-god is going to start issuing threats, I’m going to call him out. I just received the following revelation:

    Yahweh is actually the bum baby of an even greater god called “The Multi-Head”. The Multi-Head is a ten-headed God that created Yahweh in an act of homosexual auto-procreation. The heads aren’t always in agreement and that’s the true cause of discord in the world.

    And wait, there’s more. Jesus, it turns out is not the son of Mary. The real story is even more disgraceful than the one given in the Bible. It turns out that Jesus himself is another bum baby, because Yahweh actually rogered Joseph, so what we have is a succession of bum baby’s originating with the Holy Multihead.

    Furthermore the Multihead is presently angry with Yahweh and Yahweh has been banned from the universe. All worshippers of Yahweh are hereby on notice.

  100. @anon

    Years ago,, in reading a French author, I discovered that the whores in Marseilles, the largest port in the Mediterranean and in France, had a problem with moving along the many drunken sailors so they could get on to the next paying customer. They kept a candle by their bedside and when one of those tars was too intoxicated to get off or even to get it up, they inserted and jiggled their candle via his nether-porthole. Result was generally satisfactory for both parties.

    After some further research –voila!–males too have a “g spot”. It seems that physicians traditionally were aware of this feature and function, The prostate gland protrudes into the rectal canal and when stimulated it tends to get the entire system into operation, as the prostaglandin is moved up the tripartite male system, picks up some gonadal secretion along the way, stimulates the projector and then leads the parade of extrusion from that organ of release.

    So if the religionists are stuck on “intelligent design”, then they are also confronted with a certain dilemma. If Creator placed the prostate in a location where stimulating massage could result in a spasmodic response, then can it be said that Creator made a mistake according to the proponents of the book of the ancient Hebrews known to some as the Old Testicles?

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  101. @Possumman

    No longer will you be able to say “Is the Pope Catholic?”

    Small-c catholic, though, appears more valid than ever. As in, “Anything goes.”

    In non-ecclesiastical use, it derives its English meaning directly from its root, and is currently used to mean the following:

    *including a wide variety of things; all-embracing
    *universal or of general interest; – 1867 J. A. Froude Short Studies 363 What was of catholic rather than national interest.
    *liberal,[according to whom?] having broad interests, or wide sympathies; 1833 C. Lamb Thoughts on Books. in Elia 2nd Ser. I bless my stars for a taste so catholic, so unexcluding. or
    *inclusive, inviting
    1885 Times (Weekly ed.) 11 Sept. 7/1 Science is truly catholic, and is bounded only by the universe.

    Catholic (term)

  102. aname says:
    @mike k

    “Gay” is a deception. It use to be associated with being happy. Now it’s used to describe people who commit sodomy. That’s very twisted.

    • Agree: showmethereal
  103. Mulegino1 says:

    The condemnation of sodomy is not an exclusively Christian moral doctrine. The latter’s condemnation of sodomite relations merely reflects the eternal natural law and right reason. The popular acceptance or common practice of sodomy does not validate it or detract in any way from its intrinsic perversity.

    The Pope has no power or authority to change the natural law- this is not a matter of controversy. The Catholic Church has never taught that the Pope’s authority extends to changing fixed moral doctrine or adjusting Divine Tradition to better conform to the spirit of contemporaneity. Only the most ignorant champions of Papal absolutism (who are essentially heretics) would claim otherwise. It is extremely ironic that the current greatest champions of Papal absolutism (under Francis I at least) are those who would otherwise do their best to undermine all traditional authority.

    The Pope’s authority extends to matters of Church discipline, and His teaching office consists of authoritatively teaching and protecting the Deposit of Faith delivered once for all to the Apostles. His infallibility is what has been termed a “negative charism” and is circumscribed by Divine Tradition and Sacred Scripture- it is not absolute.

    This is not to say that the Pope is stuck in a time warp- he may indeed make pronouncements on applying fixed moral principles to changing circumstances, but the fixed principal must always have absolute preemptive over the temporal contingencies.

    If Francis I is indeed the validly elected Pope, he badly needs a refresher course on Catholic teaching. The mere suggestion of giving moral sanction to civil unions for sodomites borders on apostasy.

  104. @Emslander

    Emslander: Some folks are simply a bit slow on the uptake–probably due to programming seared into their still open minds by religious hucksters. If Yahweh was actually Creator and not some goddamn concocted construct of the ancient Heebiejeebies, (he) would have said something like: “Hey, I’m God. Be good to each other and treat the beautiful planet and all life which I have created with due respect and we’re good to go. No sweat.”

    Instead, we get all these regurgitated prescriptions and proscriptions which the Heebs cribbed from Hammurabi’s Code and got passed off as Moses’ receptions from on High at the top of the mountain and etched into stone. When he descended from the heights, his Friggen own brother, Aaron, had (1. constructed a golden calf for the Hebes to worship and (2. grabbed the stone tablets and dashed them on the ground, breaking them into smithereens.

    Some due respect for Yahweh, eh? It is abundantly that the non-genetically descended modern day practitioners of Judaism, after their little sojourn to Babylon, began delving into Babylonian money magick and have kept up the Aharonite/Levite faith of worshipping the Golden Calf (that being a metaphor for materialistic money-mania).

    • Agree: MrVoid
  105. @Dum Spiro Spero

    As much as for any other reason Savanarola was taken down for drastically disturbing the peace of the city by seizing and burning works of art which became described as “the Bonfire of the Vanities.” Like many religious fanatics, Savs was obsessed with destruction of anything of beauty and truth, qualities which had nothing to do with getting down on one’s knees and worshipping the false god, Yahweh.

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  106. apollonian says: • Website
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Don’t Doubt: Hoffman Is Satanic Hereticalist

    SunBaked: I merely preach the real Christianity (worship of TRUTH, above all), and I always note the source, Gosp. JOHN 14:6. Thus truth requires the OBJECTIVE reality (Aristotle), necessarily, otherwise truth could be anything–anything anyone wants it to be–which is the SUBJECTIVIST notion and actually principle of Christ’s (hence truth’s) most un-relenting enemies, the Pharisees, who thereupon wrote the Talmud (Babylon, in 500 AD), their modern-day followers known as “Jews,” by definition.

    So u see, I merely pt.-out Hoffman is not an advocate of truth (= Christ) at all–he’s nothing but a cheap MORALIST, preaching non-existent “good-evil” nonsense (known as Pelagian heresy) which is necessarily founded in subjectivism and the non-existent perfectly “free” will, which is only possessed by God the Father almighty. For we’re ineluctably sinners by nature as creatures of will (but not perfectly “free”), always seeking our interest.

    The great human art then is doing this (seeking a common interest) in a rational, hence humane manner–only the Satanists (extreme subjectivists, holding reality to be product of consciousness/mind, making themselves God, the creator) would object to such rationalist, humane ideal and practice–these Satanists then are presently quite visible as the powers behind that master central-banking network (literally legalized counterfeiting) and criminal enterprise as I noted.

    But Hoffman, the blow-hard, only works to cover-up this criminal network w. his idiot babbling which actually consists simply of the old Pelagian heresy, definitively denounced by St. Augustine–pretending one can get to heaven on one’s own by means of “good works,” without the necessary grace and mercy of God.

    Thus I pt. out simple fact THERE IS NO “GOOD-EVIL”–as it cannot even be defined–it’s TOTALLY subjectivistic, no less than the subjectivism (“midrash” and “Oral Law Trad.”) preached by Pharisees and Talmud which were explicitly denounced by Christ.

    So Hoffman is not only a veritable false preacher and gross hypocrite, he actually does the satanic work of Pharisees preaching his subjectivism and tired old Pelagianism. Additionally note Hoffman moronically pushes his putrid, crass ignorance regarding “usury” in another of his works–which only lends to the confusion of things economic for promoting the central-banking delusions.

    As for the homosexuals, they’re just Satanists themselves, and most of them are hopelessly lost–they refuse to see they’re just stupidly obsessed w. cheap sense-gratification which leads necessarily to them becoming disease magnets, no less than female prostitutes–it doesn’t mean they’re “evil,” just abysmally un-wise and ignoring the plain objective, verifiable reality. Homosexuality then is obviously just a manner of obsession and addiction, and it’s no accident so many of them are pathetic alcoholics on the side–which I myself observed long ago when I lived in San Francisco, Ca.

  107. The smartest thing this deity ever did was to create a fall guy/crash dummy the evil devil, to blame for all wrongdoings [on its behalf] and mistakes made.

    I’m responsible [and to blame, where necessary], for whatever I do [or don’t do] and live up to it/that.

    No need for scripts or otherworldly voices to instruct me on that.

    Thank you.

  108. gay troll says:
    @Majority of One

    You are right, human physiology suggests that anal sex is a feature and not a bug. Humans are one of the few animals that experience pleasure during sex. Carl Sagan argues that sexual pleasure was an evolutionary adaptation to offer an incentive against the agony (and mortal danger) of human childbirth (which results from the relative hugeness of newborn brains and skulls). Human penises, like human brains, are proportionately very large compared to other animals. They are not just utilitarian insemination wands. The size of human penises suggests that they might be “designed” to be compatible with holes bigger than vaginas. As does the protrusion of the prostate into the rectum. I laugh at the commenter who says anal sex will wear out your butthole, maybe if you over exert yourself, but the anal sphincter is a muscle like any other and workouts train and strengthen it. The pleasurably of anal sex for both giver and receiver thus offers a recreational alternative to the perils of pregnancy and childbirth. The only kink in this biological circuit is the human aversion to feces, which is again a human idiosyncrasy. Lots of other animals eat shit, including dogs. Shit is gross, I agree, but it is not intrinsically so. It is gross to humans due to our particular biochemistry.

    Humans are also one of the most social animals. Socialization disfavors competition between males in favor of cooperation. Bees are a perfect example; males are reduced to drones who serve their queen. Dogs, man’s best friend, have been continuously socialized by the genetic selection process known as domestication. The same process that turned wolves into dogs is also self-domesticating humanity. One result of this is neoteny. There is also the fact that body fat turns testosterone into estrogen, so during times of plenty, men will naturally become more effeminate and less competitive. Witness the testosterone levels of American men.

    I will affirm that being attracted to the same sex is not a choice, it is a biological drive. It never occurred to me that I might be gay until I hit puberty and then it was an instant attraction. I resisted it for years, believing it was a phase. As a child I had wanted to be (and assumed) I was straight. If it had been a matter of choice I would have chosen to be straight. I knew I was gay for seven years before I had sex with a man. The sex was a choice, the sexuality was not. For me it has nothing to do with holes; it comes down to the beauty and vivacity of other males and is a love I will never relinquish. In my opinion the whole gay rights movement (including gay marriage) is fundamentally flawed. Even among gays, opposites attract. There will always be a few men who are only attracted to other men. They aren’t supposed to only be with each other, or off in a fashionable clique, they have a role to play in broader human society. I agree with the Pope that homosexuals have the right to civil union or marriage. But the whole idea of gay existence emulating straight existence is misguided. It advocates a sense of “separate but equal” when in facts gays and straights should be together.

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  109. Art says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    When promoting the gay agenda, they always show energetic bright young things, instead of aging queens with bald heads and beer bellies

    aging queens with bald heads and beer bellies

    And most all of them wishing that they had lived a heterosexual life.

  110. Hibernian says:
    @gay troll

    Moses says to stone the adultress, and Jesus says to spare her.

    Jesus said to her, “Sin no more.” You conveniently left that out. In a previous post you mentioned Sabbath observance. Jesus said “Is the Sabbath made for man, or man for the Sabbath?” IOW, it is OK to save your valuable livestock on the Sabbath. It doesn’t mean the Sabbath is abolished. You obviously are ascribing your own personal agenda to Jesus.

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  111. @Richard B

    While white racism is real and undenaibly [sic] exists in pockets in this country (along with anti-Hispanic, anti-white and anti-Asian racism).

    Oh, my. No mention of the trusted ol’ anti-semitism canard [by Hoffman]…?

    One wonders why…

  112. @MrVoid

    Straight acting gay men are rare but don’t pose any problem.

    But do you want to have them in your platoon, when you’re out on patrol during the night and rest underneath the jungle’s canopy…?

  113. Mulegino1 says:
    @gay troll

    The only kink in this biological circuit is the human aversion to feces, which is again a human idiosyncrasy. Lots of other animals eat shit, including dogs. Shit is gross, I agree, but it is not intrinsically so. It is gross to humans due to our particular biochemistry.

    Yeah, and cats cover it up and want nothing to do with it. Your point being? Pigs, pigeons, dogs and degenerate Papuan tribespeople do not serve as models for human behavior.

    Needless to say, this normal, healthy human aversion is certainly not shared by the practicing sodomites, or they would not do what it is they do. It was their absolutely filthy and swinish wallowing in it that most likely made them the most vulnerable to AIDS. Let them do what they do in private and behind closed doors- and the moment they start to propagandize or proselytize then ship them off to uninhabited territory in the Aleutians. Zero tolerance for corrupting youth and children.

    Practicing homosexuals, like their Talmudic champions, are at war with the natural order and with themselves. Those who have that mere orientation and do not act on them should learn to sublimate their unnatural yearning into creative endeavors. The misappropiation of the word “gay” is a trenchant illustration of the twisted worldview of the rump rangers.

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  114. @RVBlake

    Have you been smoking crack?

  115. @Priss Factor

    The Easies are push-overs. Easily molded by public education, advertising, fads and fashion, state propaganda, and political correctness. Most ‘liberals’ today are Easies. They are so easy to influence. They are so trusting of elite institutions, so into status-consciousness, and so into the conceit of being ‘progressive’ that they fall for anything packaged as ‘new’ and/or for ‘social justice’. So, if a man can be a ‘she’ or even a ‘they’, they just go along with it without thought. They are Easy. As even intelligent ‘liberals’ fall for this, Easiness is less a matter of IQ than sense of self and conviction. Easies have weak individual sense, racial consciousness, and culture/roots. They’ve been uprooted but hardly inculcated with the importance of individuality and critical thinking. A rootless person with strong individuality and critical mentality wouldn’t be so easy. He may not be conservative but he won’t fall for every fad and fashion either. But today’s ‘liberals’ have not only been uprooted but denied individuality and criticality. That means they’ve been made Easy to any fad/fashion but, lacking any sense of individuality, they latch onto the emotionalism of PC.

    Excellent insight, and your use of the terms Easies and Hards to describe two different types is illuminating. What analogues in history are there to today’s Easies in your view?

    Whatever one feels about [Pat] Buchanan, he has a strong and hard sense of tradition and heritage to deflect the forces of fashion. Whatever one thinks of Ayn Rand, she believed in the power of the individual to think for himself/herself. She refused to agree with anyone under pressure. But lacking such qualities, PC minions have a kind of passion without roots and criticality.

    Yes, both Buchanan and Rand are admirable for the reasons you give, even though they are very different otherwise as thinkers, writers and personalities. H.L. Mencken and Ernest Gellner are two other brilliant writers and thinkers who simply would not bend to the prevailing fads and orthodoxies, and demolished many of them with great aplomb. All four of these writers also have in common vigorous and memorable prose styles.

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  116. nsa says:

    Everyone knows the Whore of the Seven Hills oversees what amounts to a murderous pedophile cult masquerading as a “religion”…..a cult that has fought every sign of human progress for the last 2000 years. The 1633 trial of Galileo for heresy is fairly typical. What was Galileo’s heresy? Looking through a wonderful refracting telescope he hand built, investigating the heavens, and then stating the obvious……the heavens do not rotate around the homo in the goofy gold hat, but rather the earth spins on its axis making the heavens appear to revolve around it. Not wanting the same treatment as the astronomer, Bruno (burned alive at the stake in 1600), Galileo confessed and was subjected to imprisonment for the rest of his days. It only took 360 years for the cult to admit to a possible error, and in 1992 “forgave” Galileo’s heresy. Get that? The head cult fag in the goofy gold hat “forgave” the magnificent astronomer and physicist. Diderot had it exactly right…..men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

  117. Richard B says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Write like a White man, not a triggered sissy.

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  118. @Carol Rae Bradford, M.Ed.

    “Not against gay people” argument …

    for what their values did to a gloriously beautiful word or does it go deeper than that

  119. Petermx says:
    @apollonian

    Yes, Michael Hoffman is very impressive and you are not at all.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  120. The head Jesuit Arturo Sosa claims the devil doesn’t really exist, it is just a symbol.

    https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2019/august/head-jesuit-says-devil-just-a-symbol-not-a-real-being

    The Vatican is filled with boy sodomists. Arturo Sosa and the Pope are guilty until proven innocent at this point.

  121. gay troll says:
    @Mulegino1

    Whatever other sins of the Sodomites possessed Yahweh to condemn them, “sodomy”, as you say, is a reference to attempted man rape, and does not fairly represent consensual oral or anal sex. It’s your word and your fairy tale. Besides, Yahweh condemns everyone who isn’t a Jew, his judgment is not to be trusted. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah just like he destroyed all the other cities of Canaan. His logic is still being used to justify the Zionist occupation of Palestine. His books should be tossed in the trash.

  122. @Presocratic

    The four writers I bracketed together had different approaches to humor. Rand was deadly serious in her writings. Mencken was one of the funniest writers in American history. He ranks behind Twain his sense of humor, but is certainly near the top. Gellner had an extremely biting and sarcastic wit, and I can’t think of any scholar who wrote more entertainingly than he did in any of his three areas of expertise — sociology, anthropology and philosophy. Buchanan has a very appealing and contagious laugh, and he employed humor to great effect when he was regularly on TV. But his sense of humor does not find as much expression in his books and columns.

  123. apollonian says: • Website
    @Petermx

    So what’s “impressive”?–Satanism or Truth?

    But WHAT are u saying about the facts and the argumentation?–Is Hoffman champion of truth–or no? Is Hoffman subjectivist, Pelagian heretic, or what? We see u’re very “impressed” by Satanism, eh?

  124. @Art

    How about recruit only men who are married to women and have children? Too simple and logical?

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    , @Art
  125. Seraphim says:
    @Dum Spiro Spero

    MH does not say that Savonarola was burnt by the Pope, but that “Pope Alexander VI excommunicated and demanded be executed by fire”, if I read correctly.
    Anyway, execution of heretics was the competence of secular authorities. The Church only pronounced the excommunication and handed the culprit to the secular authorities. The Pope did not need to ‘demand’ the execution by fire, burning at the stake of heretics, magicians, rapists, traitors, deserters being the standard mode of execution in Roman Law, inherited by medieval authorities.
    The Florentine Signoria charged him with treason and heresy. The Medici were at that time exiled from Florence (Piero de’ Medici who died in 1503), where they would return only in 1512 (Piero’s son Lorenzo, the father of Catherine de Medici).

  126. Ivan says:

    Pope Francis has always been in favour of civil unions. It is not a new position for him as he had agreed to it while Bishop of Buenos Aires. He has also however been very forceful in insisting that those with homosexual inclinations should not present themselves for novitiate in the priesthood. As a pastoral priest with vast experience among ordinary people, he knows that homosexuals are part and parcel of human existence. Jesus Christ Himself alludes to it’s existence :

    For there are those who are born eunuchs, those who are made eunuchs by men, and those who have made themselves eunuchs for the service of God. Let him who can accept it, accept it.

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  127. A.K.Patal says:
    @JoRizz

    You put it very nicely. Thank you.

  128. Reaper says:

    The Catholic Church get prominance by stealing celebrations/ ccelebration dates from ancient religions, also other traditions to make it more accepted, and alike.
    They replace old smaller entities with new idols, called saints.

    About in the past 100 years, or more they do not steal from pagan religions but steal from the secular state, and the public, to be more alike, and remain more accepted.

    When somebody compare what was the difference between a Christian religious school and a public scool in like 1920 and in 2020 will see the differences are mostly dissolved.

    Is this new trend good or bad?
    Catholics must decide.
    Also they can take actions if wish to.
    There were various reformations, counter-reformations, anti-popes, poisoned popes, etc… History provides countless examples.

    • Replies: @apollonian
  129. RT says:

    Francesco is not a Christian, he is the Antichrist.
    On February 11, 2013, just after Pope Benedict was forced to “retire”, the dome of St. Peter cathedral in Vatican was stroke twice by a lightning. The wrought of God.

  130. @Richard B

    I’ll stick with Stoddard, thank you.

  131. @Majority of One

    Most Moslem boys go through the same thing. (The Obamas’ tribe is an exception.) And, through most of the 20th century, most North American boys, due to medical faddism.

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  132. @RadicalCenter

    How about recruit only men who are married to women and have children? Too simple and logical?

    That would be bigamy. At any rate, the Protestants tried it, and they’re clearly running out of steam.

  133. Art says:
    @RadicalCenter

    How about recruit only men who are married to women and have children? Too simple and logical?

    Absolutely – there are many forty something, good men of proven character and settled family life, who would make valued priests.

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  134. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:

    I see some homoistic propaganda here tending to argue that the appropriate insertion point for the penis into the human body is the rectum rather than the vagina. This, due to the discovery of a purported male g-spot at the ass-end of the prostate gland. A design flaw? Or a divine intention?

    Not to be graphic but semen has its place, and it’s not in the rectum. Semen is an immune suppressant. This is quite helpful when it comes to the vagina, because the vagina’s immune reaction and fluids have to be neutralized for the semen to be able to travel unmolested on its merry way up to the eggs. The rectum, however, is not set up to be the yang to the semen’s yin. It’s set up to be an exit, not a gateway to heaven. When semen gets in there, it depresses the immune system. Ja, even more than a gerbil does! “Gays” generally *do* have depressed immune systems, and this makes it easier for diseases to get a butt hold on the homosexual than on a non-perverted human. They get sicker, more often, and for longer; and they therefore have more opportunity to spread disease to us! In addition, they give weak diseases a better chance for survival against their usually compromised immune systems. This gives the disease agent the time it needs to become more virulent, in a process known as “host adaptation.” Homosexuality is one of the most effective disease vectors the human race has known. And this is how diseases that *are* just gay diseases become *not* just gay diseases. AIDS wasn’t the first and it sure won’t be the last.

    I can’t remember the exact quote, but it is attributed to a recovered former lesbian who said: Who but the devil would invent a compulsion to deposit the seed of God in a waste canal.

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  135. MrVoid says:
    @Anonymous

    Yeah but homosexuals exist and the males ones are born that way. Homophobia among straight men exists too and that also seems fairly inate. Isn’t it the job of society to just take every fact of existance into account and make the best of things instead of stoning people and quoting bibles? Note that I’m not coming down 100% on the side of gays. Their demand for 100% acceptance may not be a reasonable expectation.

  136. Anon[147] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ivan

    I’m Catholic, and accept Francis as my Pope. Having said that.. he does not confirm believers in the Faith? He somehow manages to confuse and divide. You know, I presume, who operates through confusion and division. One can but pray and fast.

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  137. apollonian says: • Website
    @Reaper

    The Lesson: Truth Resurrects, Suckers

    Indeed: one needs merely consult the CYCLIC history of things, per Oswald Spengler, “Decline of the West.” Christ is TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), and the truth cannot be killed as the Pharisees and their satanic followers pretend and insist, though they kill everyone else who stands by and for the truth.

    For the TRUTH ALWAYS Resurrects–the great lesson of that great literature, New Testament. Thus we’re equipped and fore-armed for the present-day gang of rulers in Israel w. their branch-offices in New York, Wash. DC, London, Paris, etc.

  138. Anonymous[172] • Disclaimer says:

    @Majority of One

    “They kept a candle by their bedside and when one of those tars was too intoxicated to get off or even to get it up, they inserted and jiggled their candle via his nether-porthole. Result was generally satisfactory for both parties.”

    Was the candle lit? I mean, you know, for disinfectant purposes, not for the thrill of it.

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  139. @Reg Cæsar

    Different timing with the Muslims. In a chat with a Moroccan dude a couple years back he told me that the average in his country is at age three. By that time the child is basically socialized and has bonded with his parents and family members. A big hoopla attends the ceremony, with the kid being the “hero” of the day with acclamations, presents and the like. In Turkey, the age may run anywhere between three and eight.

    My point being that the physical trauma and conscious reaction may be more extreme, but the deep embedding of the trauma in the lizard-brain/ subconscious mind can only be the focus of speculation and imagination. The probability factor is that without proper healing rituals the damage could well be life-long and the mass effect of a nation of men sharing this fear-inducing trauma could explain a lot of the social and cultural dysplasia now common to fourth and fifth generation victims of America’s Dirty Little Secret.

  140. @Anonymous

    Cue the lyrics of Jim Morrison in “Light My Fire”.

  141. Some things never change……

    This seems like a continuation of what started in the 1500s when the Jewish ruling class of Venice orchestrated the Reformation and Counter Reformation (the Jesuit Order came to be then) to weaken the Church — and to divide Europe to better control it.

  142. Sex is a transgression against divine law on any occasion when it is not between a male and female within the bonds of matrimony.

    Well, probably 95% of humans have transgressed in one way or another. “Who am I to judge” – appears fitting.

    I don’t think there’s a correlation with Holocaust denial, as that has to do with free speech.

  143. apollonian says: • Website
    @MrVoid

    Homo Corruption Has ALWAYS Been Part Of Cultural, Darwinian Struggle In Spenglerian CYCLIC History

    MrVoid, U “beg the question”–make presumption(s) not proven or apparent. Homos exist no less than psychosis and criminality, and these are and have always been understood as maladies. When such homo culture prevails it only means the destruction of the culture–simply observe hist.

    Homos want to be promoted–they especially want to influence, treat, and handle children, as in school system, when parents (for the most part) have always objected. Homos, at bottom, are simply addicts for sense-gratification, who want to make it a virtue, and they’ve been protected fm “stoning”–so u’re just lying, there, which is typical of the corrupt homo culture of lies and satanism.

    Thus u actually demonstrate the sort of psychosis which is TYPICAL of the corrupt homo (satanic) culture. True, in corrupt societies and esp. empires, homos thrive and increase for (typical, corrupt) influence–but that’s simply part of the corruption–homos are symptoms of that corruption–as u actually demonstrate in ur affected, presumptuous argument.

    Then again, note, life has always been understood as Darwinian warfare, struggle, and tragedy, as fm time of Homer, homos always having played distinct part for their thematic, satanic corruption against rationalism. Homo culture is corruption itself (Satanistic); u just don’t and won’t see it that way–and that’s way it has ALWAYS been in human hist.–why there always has been, always will be such Darwinian warfare–corrupt, satanic, irrational vs. healthy and rationalist, “Christian” ALWAYS symbolizing the rational, homos always noted for the satanic.

  144. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @MrVoid

    “Yeah but homosexuals exist and the males ones are born that way. Homophobia among straight men exists too and that also seems fairly inate. ”

    Are you suggesting heritability? If so, I could go for that, because that would hold out the tremendous potential for a little gene therapy being the cure for abomination.

    As to “homophobia,” this is a homosexual neologism of the usual unsupportable and pejorative kind. If you cure abomination, you remove the target of the “homophobia” and “homophobia” no longer exists, innate or otherwise, if it ever did. “Homophobia” is merely an immune reaction. Get rid of the disease agent and voila!

    Nevertheless, I myself would not object to being called a “homophobe,” except that I will resist all attempts define me in any way in relation to somebody else’s perverted sexual activities. I will accept the label “homo-hemaphobe,” however, which as far as I can determine means, “one who fears ‘gay’ blood transfusions.”

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  145. MrVoid says:
    @Anonymous

    Are you suggesting heritability? If so, I could go for that, because that would hold out the tremendous potential for a little gene therapy being the cure for abomination.

    The gay community would go ape at that thought but, yeah, gene therapy would probably work if it was done early enough. It wouldn’t work after the synaptic pathways in the brain formed though. BTW, calling it an “abomination” seems like melodrama to me and a tendency for melodrama is a gay-typical trait so, ahem, I’ll leave it at that.

    As to “homophobia,” this is a homosexual neologism of the usual unsupportable and pejorative kind.

    I don’t like language games and I agree that the terminology is intentionally misleading. Perhaps fear plays some role every time hate arises in the mind but primarily homophobia is a feeling of disgust. Homo-disgustedness would be a more accurate term. Anyway, precisely because I don’t like language games I just use the lingua franca. Homophobia is the term society is presently using, so I use it too. It’s a waste of time fighting about definitions.

    Nevertheless, I myself would not object to being called a “homophobe,” except that I will resist all attempts define me in any way in relation to somebody else’s perverted sexual activities.

    Once again, that sounds like some kind of melodrama. As a conservative White male I know full well that gay people are *mostly* the enemy, but not all of them, and I don’t know that they have to be. I would agree with them that we shouldn’t call them perverts for being differently wired. It smacks of bibles and priests. The western world has had enough of that sort of thing.

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  146. Lin says:
    @zimriel

    Sex could trigger cardiovascular arrest. Colorectal damage is usually not fatal unless there’s excessive bleeding, like
    “Gaddafi was shot several times and had a bayonet driven into his rectum.”
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/10/05/the-dreadful-chronology-of-gaddafis-murder/

    or being victim of assassination:
    “Edward II, popularly thought to have been done in by means of a red-hot poker forced into his rectum..”
    https://mikedashhistory.com/2011/03/17/they-dont-like-it-up-em-revisiting-the-sordid-deaths-of-edmund-ironside-edward-ii-and-james-i-of-scotland/

  147. Ivan says:
    @Anon

    Papa Francis is the man to handle the lavender lobby. Pope Benedict was getting sideswiped every time by the pedophilia scandals. Francis has handled them deftly and firmly.

    The Catholic Church claims that God wills the salvation of all men. It seems to me that in that case one has to take into account the reality of widespread divorce even among Catholics. What is to happen to the Catholic education of the children? Hearkening to some make believe past, without taking into account present realities is not going to help the majority to get on the road to Salvation.

  148. anarchyst says:
    @Art

    Clerical celibacy IS NOT Catholic Church dogma…
    Most people (even Catholics) are unaware that celibacy was imposed on Roman Catholic priests for purely financial considerations. In the middle ages, church property was being willed to the descendants of married priests and bishops, rather than remaining in Catholic Church hands. Celibacy was imposed to take the priests’ and bishops’ families out of the equation.
    There is nothing “Protestant” about allowing Roman Catholic priests to marry. In fact, other Catholic sects (Greek Orthodox and Maronite) allow for married priests. Married Episcopal clergy who convert to Catholicism are allowed to function as priests.
    The Vatican II Ecumenical Council should have resulted in the call to abolish celibacy. Instead, it was a subversive vehicle to impose Protestant and Jewish principles on the Catholic Church.

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  149. anarchyst says:

    In the push for homosexual “rights”, we were told that all homosexuals wanted was “to be tolerated” and shown “respect”. Almost every decent person had no problem with that, as we are all human beings, given our individual wants, needs and proclivities.

    The abolition of laws criminalizing homosexuality was a first step in eliminating the persecution that homosexuals endured. However, that attitude has turned out to have negative ramifications. The claim was that all homosexuals wanted was to be “tolerated”…now they are using impressionable children for their perverted desires…sick. Where is “child protective services”?

    Sad to say, “tolerance” has morphed into demands for not only “acceptance”, but deference, to the whims of homosexuals, without regards for the rights of heterosexuals with differing beliefs.

    When homosexuals purposely target a Christian-run bakery or other business, making demands for not only “acceptance”, but using the “civil-rights” laws, forcing the owner to go against his principles, THAT, my friends is tyranny, under guise of “civil-rights”.

    Using the “civil-rights” laws to force business owners into actions that go against their basic beliefs is tyranny of the highest order, and has no place in American society. It is interesting to note that, in these cases where homosexuals wanted to “prove a point”, they purposely bypassed many bakeries who would accede to their wishes and give them what they desire. As an aside, muslim bakers who refused to bake homosexual-themed cakes were NOT targeted for “civil-rights” violations—double standard, indeed.

    This kind of behavior garners no favors with most decent people and furthers resolve against militant homosexuals who want not only toleration, but total “in your face” acceptance of their “lifestyle”–something that some people find that does not “square” with their beliefs.

    It appears that the success of “equal rights” for homosexuals has renewed a push to “normalize” other behaviors, such as “transsexuality”, “cross-dressing”, and other “gender fluidity” behaviors.

    There is even a push by pedophiles and their advocates to redefine (decriminalize and normalize) their behavior, renaming it “minor-attracted adults” rather than the perversion that it is presently defined as. The “slippery slope” started with the normalization of homosexuality, and has degenerated into the demands for acceptance of every form of human dysfunction.

    “Live and let live” used to be a staple of American society, but was eviscerated with every “protected group” using laws to force others to not only tolerate them, but accept them.

    Not good…

  150. gay troll says:
    @ploni almoni

    Another incisive rebuttal from the Jesus fans. Can none of you refute a single thing I say?

  151. Apple n’ Onion and Voided catheter are obviously devolved, not through natural selection but as victims of neonatal sexual assault by the urologist or some other medico who forcibly removed their infant man-hoods. As a result of this assault on their battering-rams, they fell into the Judie-Christie Magick-Mindfuck meme of galloping perversity, a prognosis quite common amongst the culturally voided victims of this all too common form of medical malpractice violation of the Hippocratic Oath’s first dictum: “First do no harm”.

    We must try to understand their near terminal infatuation with homophobophilia as a moderately common bi-product of their internalized mourning for their lost prepuces. Skinless weenies, particularly when imposed upon innocent newborns, result in numerous deeply embedded but unconscious fear memes which all too frequently leads to projection of those impositional phobias into a curdled consciousness. Cut off from the natural course of human evolution into an eroticized approach to the primary mechanism that transcends elementary animal sexuality into a humanized escape from those hetero lustings which disrupt opposite sex pair bonding and its concomitant good parenting; they lash out at those whose pure lust cannot interrupt the foundation of human society, the unbreakable bonds of the nuclear family.

    “Different strokes for different folks” includes an elementary understanding of the evolution of human erotic expression beyond that of simple animal sexuality. As our species has evolved away from that base-line reproductive behavior into fuller levels of eroticism; samesex eroticism should no longer be an issue, as it is innately protective of the nuclear family because of its allowance for lust to be redirected away from the tendency to cheat on the spousal relationship.

    What these gentlemen seem incapable of understanding is that men and women express vastly differentiated sexual/erotic needs: Women require and desire relationships (pair bonding) which is essential for the nourishment and protection of their offspring, Men simply need to get their rocks off and have a strong tendency to spread their seed around and around and around. When this innate masculine impulse is directed to either their own sex or to non-reproducing prostitutes of the opposite sex; there is little to no danger to the sanctity of the family unit.

    It is all about relationships. Degraded, debased and devolutionary fucking around with members of the opposite sex and quite possibly thereby forming competing relationships is inestimably more destructive to the family unit than either samesex encounters or the employment of members of the world’s oldest profession.

    Sexuality in America appears to be nearing terminal devolution and the problem is with unbridled male lust for virtually each and every female who turns them on. Mature cultures such that of the ancient Greeks, who employed the myth of Orpheus to redirect male lust were far more advanced in the direction of cultural nourishment than the massive mess which may be exemplified by the Playboy phantasmagoria. The cultural devolution began with the Judie-Christie Magick-Mindfuck ,which essentially destroyed the higher cultural realizations which characterized the ancient Hellenes.

    The afore-mentioned gentlemen appear to be hung up on a cross, symbolic of the power of the state over the individual. That symbol as directed by the Emperor Constantine, effectively replaced the ancient fish-symbol employed by the early Jesusites. That symbol was the archetype for the Age of Pisces, replacing the Ram of the Arian Age.

    Jesus’ message was totally spiritual—it was all about love. Crosstianity is all about sin and redemption from that sin through acceptance of an impositional belief system. In terms of human evolution, the Emperor struck back and created the basis for the devolutionary culture characterized by contemporary cock-cutting blood-rituals of fear-based norms. If one is a normally enculturated American, one is objectively insane,

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  152. @Majority of One

    In fact, Pope Alexander VI wanted to protect Savonarola, whom he knew was a bit of a fanatic, but he respected him. He wanted a fair trial for him. Savonarola’s problem was that he had begun to conspire to overthrow a legitimate pope, Alexander VI, even though he had his moral flaws. But rather because of the issue of worldliness, and not because of the issue of sexual depravity as they present it.
    It was true that Alexander VI had four children, but with women (two) with whom he stopped having a relationship 11 years before being elected Pope. Furthermore, even though he was a cardinal, he was not yet ordained a priest (at that time that was possible).
    Savonarola had formed a kind of Christian republic in Florence, and so the Medici wanted to eliminate him. They did it as soon as they could. But while criticizing Alexander VI in a fair way, the Pope tolerated him.
    With regard to homosexuality, Saint Pietro Damian, an eleventh century cardinal, vigorously fought against this plague among the clergy. With the help of the Pope, of course.
    We simply have to tell the truth, and investigate thoroughly. M Hoffman is a markedly anti-Catholic writer. I am a Catholic, but I do not accept the Second Vatican Council, because I consider that it is the work of the enemies of the Church. The situation that has reached its peak with Bergoglio.

  153. anon[712] • Disclaimer says:

    The next thing we are going to hear is that the pope is either gay or is going to get a sex change. It’s all in the plan to remake the world. It amazes me how an intelligent person could be a mainstream Catholic now with all the backpeddling the church has done on every issue they were once against. Most people I know who were born Catholic, have their doubts about it now and either have stopped attending mass or have joined another church.

  154. Art says:
    @anarchyst

    Because of celibacy, the Catholic priest held an honored and esteemed place in society.

    With the current day homosexual sex scandals, the priesthood has lost much respect. And the Church hierarchy itself, has lost the respect of all, Catholic and non-Catholic.

    Now is the perfect time for the Church to change direction on the celibacy issue. But I fear that they will do nothing.

    The Catholic Church can redeem itself and do something special for humanity. It can go full-out for what Jesus wanted – PEACE among men.

    There is zero reason to maintain war as an option in our current times. Peace is doable. Christian Western culture can lead the way to peace. The Catholic Church has the means and the power to buck the whole deep state apparatus.

    Young priests must be the front-runners for peace and de-militarism. This has to be a people, bottom up movement.

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  155. apollonian says: • Website
    @Majority of One

    “Majority…” Merely Needs Holy Spirit To Achieve Honesty, Thus Truth

    “Majority”: U merely need ask urself who u think u’re kidding, buddy–we’ve hrd ur lies and lying many times before. U should simply ck-up on the sociology of ur “progressive” gay societies–just go to the search engine and type-in “gay sociology,” and then add whatever specific qualifier, and u find gay society is truly degenerate just as u’d otherwise (if u were more honest) expect–EVERYTHING about gay society sucks–more violence, murder, theft, etc., than “straight” society.

    U just like to lie and cover it up, that’s all–u’re NOT “progressives,” though u typically lie, as always, and say u are. U’re not “liberal”; u’re actually a bunch of cowardly, violent, fascists and thugs who are recruited by Zuckerberg and Dorsey, doing all the censorship and banning within the “cancel culture.” “Gay” society IS “cancel culture” and couldn’t exist or operate without u degenerates, frauds, criminals, and psychotics who make it work and operate.

    Regarding Christianity, note it’s worship of truth (see Gosp. JOHN 14:6), and it was specifically instituted, first by Christ who IS truth itself, according to the mythology, which requires the objective reality as necessary basis of such truth (otherwise anything could be “truth”–subjectivism). That’s why such truth (Christ) ALWAYS “resurrects,” fool–u can’t kill it, as the Pharisees thought and wished they did–because it’s founded upon the objective (Aristotelian) reality (which can’t be killed).

    Christianity IS NOT NOT NOT “all about love,” just another of ur idiot lies–get a brain, sucker–quit pretending w. all ur lying and flowery phraseology, chump–u only fool urself. “Think not I came to bring peace; rather, I come to bring a sword.” (Gosp. MATT 10:34)

    See, Christianity is the literal ANTI-THESIS in the Hegelian style to the Satanist subjectivism of Pharisees and Talmud, finally written-out in Babylon in 500 AD, according to their “Oral Law Trad.” which pretended to “interpret” the Mosaic law–extreme SUBJECTIVISM, insisting thus the Mosaic meant whatever they said it meant (“midrash,” the “party-line,” according to the bolshies). See Gosp. JOHN 8:44.

    Such extreme subjectivism done in the collectivistic manner thus holds Jews (collectively) as co-equal w. God as creators of reality–SATANISM, and Judaism is the leading, most successful, effective, and famous of all the variants and styles of Satanism ever devised or imagined, Jews always dominating goyim Satanists and subjectivists, even though the goy far out-number Jews, Jews most sublimely organized, collectivist, most motivated, w. the most effective “group-think” and leadership.

    No wonder Jews/Satanists hate Christianity most of all, even more than they hate white people, for Christianity, the real thing, truly is “anti-Semitic” (anti-satanic) as Jews understand the concept, Christianity upholding the objective reality, hence TRUTH (= Christ) against Satanist (extreme) subjectivism.

  156. Anonymous[651] • Disclaimer says:

    @Majority of One

    “homophobophilia”

    Well, I think that speaks for itself, although I don’t know what it’s saying.

  157. Anonymous[651] • Disclaimer says:
    @MrVoid

    “BTW, calling it an “abomination” seems like melodrama to me and a tendency for melodrama is a gay-typical trait so, ahem, I’ll leave it at that.”

    Oh good, good. I was worried I might be coming across as excessively “heteronormative.”

    “Homo-disgustedness would be a more accurate term.”

    In secret, I like to think of myself as “homo-loathing,” not -phobing.

    “I would agree with them that we shouldn’t call them perverts for being differently wired. ”

    We could go back to the end of the 19th century and call them “homosexual inverts” if you like. Better still we could return to the Enlightenment when their “inversions” were legally designated “sodomy,” ” buggery” and “unmentionable filth.”

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  158. MrVoid says:
    @Anonymous

    We could go back to the end of the 19th century and call them “homosexual inverts” if you like. Better still we could return to the Enlightenment when their “inversions” were legally designated “sodomy,” ” buggery” and “unmentionable filth.”

    I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree then. I actually think that conservatives should join forces with gay people. I think we’ere their only hope, if there is any. Right now they’re being fussed over and elevated by the ruling elite because they’re useful as cultural battering rams, but western civilization is probably more tolerant of sexual deviance than any other civilization. If gays know what’s good for them, they might want to think carefully about the motives of their present day allies. It is a sort of indictment of them, that they will not think about it.

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  159. Swaggy says:
    @JoRizz

    You have a very Judaic idea of God. It simply hasn’t got anything to do with Christianity

  160. @MrVoid

    The question I want answered is to what extent all this gender blurring and reversed sex identity is the result of pollution. Chemical pollution, electronic and energetic pollution are all affecting our health, including our reproductive and endocrine systems.

    Homosexuals might “be born” that way but if it was because of high exposure to synthetic hormones it is NOT natural. And since the frequency of gender bent persons has become very large, environmental influences must be considered a likely culprit. (It certainly cannot be explained as adaptive and the result of reproductive success at this stage, can it?)

    As such, the efforts by Pope Francis and others to codify into law and cultural mores what is in fact an epidemic of gender deformities is patently unwise. When Thalidomide was found to cause flipper babies, society did their best to take care of these victims, But we did not celebrate these tragic deformations and pass laws that sought to normalize in perpetuity the “Thalidomide Revolution”, did we?

    https://greensmoothiegirl.com/endocrine-disruptors/

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/aug/01/thalidomide-louise-medus-a-stranger-when-i-went-home

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  161. Art says:
    @Art

    The Catholic Church can redeem itself and do something special for humanity. It can go full-out for what Jesus wanted – PEACE among men.

    There is zero reason to maintain war as an option in our current times. Peace is doable. Christian Western culture can lead the way to peace. The Catholic Church has the means and the power to buck the whole deep state apparatus.

    Young priests must be the front-runners for peace and de-militarism. This has to be a people, bottom up movement.

    Think Peace and we can have it.

  162. MrVoid says:
    @thotmonger

    The question I want answered is to what extent all this gender blurring and reversed sex identity is the result of pollution. Chemical pollution, electronic and energetic pollution are all affecting our health, including our reproductive and endocrine systems.

    I don’t know. It’s a completely legitimate question and we have all heard of falling sperm counts and that must have a lot to do with the cheap crap in most people’s diets. I agree that science should leave no stone unturned in this area, as with every area. Gay people should be prepared for answers they don’t like, but so should we. Deference to science (when it’s objective and real) should be one thing everyone should support, Pope’s included.

  163. Dumbo says:

    There was a site with the best info about homosexuality but I think it was deleted.

    It was argued there that many or most gays suffered some form of sexual abuse during childhood and that made them that way.

    Another possibility is issues inside the womb which create some hormonal imbalance.

    There could be also genetic factors, although those come last.

    Even if gays were “born that way”, it is clearly as a deviation from the norm and that brings with it a lot of problems. If it could be “cured” by some form of prenatal therapy, most parents probably wouldn’t want to have a gay son.

    On the other hand, I think it is quite logical that since you can have some more feminine men and more masculine women, that there is a graduation of psychological attributes of masculinity and femininity and not all people are 100% masculine or feminine (in psychological terms, I mean, but also probably hormonal), then it is possible that some go “over the line” and become gay because of excessive femininity, and also lesbians because of too much masculinity.

    Also many geniuses were gay or had other forms of deviancy, so ending completely homosexuality might not be that good after all.

    That said, gay marriage and gays adopting children is a bad idea.

  164. apollonian says: • Website
    @Dumbo

    “Gays”: Notable Victims Of Life, Hubris, And Spenglerian CYCLIC Historical Process

    Gays are addicts for cheap sense gratification–actually not much wrong w. that, for life itself is an addiction, and everyone wants that sense gratification, everyone being sinners. And life is a long process of adjustment to conditions, some more successful than others. Ultimately everyone eventually wears-out in face of life’s difficulties, succumbing to old-age if nothing else.

    Those who remain “gays” get more and evermore obsessed, and they form up into gangs, “communities,” and even societies, etc., as we see, who oppose humanity, wanting to dominate and intimidate humanity, as we see.

    At this pt., we’re well into known sociologic (conflict) theory, and gays have always been the losers–except at the very end of historic CYCLES, according to Oswald Spengler’s theory, in “Decline of the West,” when the society collapses, having gone through the beginning stages, maturity, and then the ending. So the gay sociology is eminently subject to fairly exact plotting and measuring.

    Historic and sociologic observations then are that these “gays” build-up and construct their own little subjectivistic worlds and mythologies, continuing to resenting and condemning non-gays, subjectivism and delusion continuing to be problems troubling humanity.

    Golly gee, but is there a vaccine for subjectivism and delusion?–surely not, as subjectivism and delusion are often conditions which are over-come by means of reason and the Holy Spirit, making life that interesting thing it so often is.

    And again, note the society inevitably and ultimately collapses in HUBRIS and Satanism (extreme subjectivism) where and whence Western society finds itself in these present “end-times.” Gays are notable victims of this subjectivist delusion–and over-population–it’s why there’s war and rumors of war, and the Darwinian consequences; such is life, said the Buddha.

  165. @Dumbo

    Rationalistic, “scientific” materialism cannot possibly address the samesex question. We need to turn to the many scriptures which were eliminated by Constantine’s gang when they edited and published his Bible. In order to push the “original sin” shtick, they had to eliminate any possible reference to reincarnation, which meant that books such as the Gospel of Thomas had to be dumped.

    The samesex impulse is only in part genetic as it is primarily emanating from the course of many incarnations, accessing developments in prior lifetimes. Contemporary Newtonian, Cartesian, Darwinian “science” is out to lunch when facing what for their “answers” happens to be a total dilemma .

    In essence we are spiritual beings currently existing in a material lifetime. Through the course of our many lives, we are posed with many challenges for our spiritual growth. The only reasonable explanation for the trans-sexual phenomenon, for example, can only be that these poor souls have had many strong female lifetimes and in this go-round are confronted with the wrong (by their prior experiences) set of plumbing.

    Perhaps the best book on reincarnation was written by Dr. Brian Weiss. Do a web search. His best one is in part titled “Many Lives”.

  166. Anonymous[621] • Disclaimer says:
    @MrVoid

    Let us say, for the sake of argument, that the whole issue of what grungy stuff the fruits do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is no concern of mine – other than from a public hygiene standpoint, which is serious enough. What they do between the sheets is between them and God and barrels of taxpayer-funded medications. Fine.

    The problem consists in the fact that they are compelled to drag their beds out into the street and demand societal approval. Once they get that, or at least tolerance of that, they come to figure that they are the ones who are right-side up and that society has got it upside down. (Actually they think that all along, but once they collectivize it comes out of the closet.)

    It is no coincidence that the first homoistic journal in history was titled “The Community of the Elite.” They are not inferior; they are not equal; they are better than “heteronormative” “breeders” and their obnoxious “rug rats.” They are trans-human!

    There’s a whole school of thought called “Queer Theory,” housed and nurtured in our most prestigious universities, at tax-payer expense naturally, explicitly dedicated to over-turning sexuality itself, much less marriage and society. This is only an example:

    Paula Ettelbrick, former legal director of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund, has stated “Being queer is more than setting up house, sleeping with a person of the same gender, and seeking state approval for doing so…Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process transforming the very fabric of society.” – (Paula Ettelbrick, quoted in William B. Rubenstein, “Since When Is Marriage a Path to Liberation?” Lesbians, Gay Men, and the Law, (New York: The New Press, 1993), pp. 398, 400)

    Now if you don’t “phobe” that bro, your civilization is down the tubes and up the creek.

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  167. apollonian says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    CYCLIC Course Of History, Before One’s Very Eyes

    Observe again, there’s the objective view of reality, Aristotelian, but also deterministic, no perfectly “free” will, no “good-evil,” thus Christian, which arose definitively in Hegelian style, in contrast and opposition to the satanic Pharisaism/Talmudism, featuring extreme subjectivism, the Torah only meaning (“midrash”) what rabbis say, in accord w. “Oral Law Trad.”

    Thus in subjectivism there’s no truth, truth, reality, etc. being merely what is determined (the “party-line” midrash) by the rabbis. So then the homosexual theory and practice naturally accords most and best w. the extreme subjectivist, hence satanic expression.

    And note the satanic and gay development follows in the CYCLIC hist. process as the mature society, or civilization passes fm mature hubris to over-ripe and now the “Decline of the West,” by Spengler.

    And observe the activity and effects of the satanic in the infamous “pizza-gate” episode, and other such satanic expressions/manifestations. Observe the crass, in-ur-face censorship as of Twitter and Facebook, presently, the terrorism of the Covid-19 lock-downs, pushed by that same satanic interest moving for MANDATORY vaccinations, all of this consistent w. the “Big Pharma” issuing the poison drugs, opiods, fentanyl, etc.

    And note this satanic activity parallels the constant, growing monopolization of the drug industry, the “big tech” giants, all of it the product and necessary consequence of the central-bank and fiat-currency monopolies, all of them colluding, the US Federal Reserve cooperating so close and intimately w. ECB, BOJ, BOE, BOC, BIS, IMF, etc.

    And it’s all founded upon that simple, blatant criminal activity of legalized counterfeiting, the satanic masters having successfully persuaded the over-populated fools that fiat-currency is soooo wonderful, the CURRENCY now infinite (at least in theory), having rendered real money (commodity-based) now obsolete. Thus the value of the ZOG-bux is constantly reduced, the people defrauded, impoverished, enslaved, exterminated.

    So it isn’t like the satanic madness and genocide (as of “Agendas” 21 and 2030 de-population) is without fairly simple method which has even been quite well researched (“Book of Revelations”). The “people” are simply getting what they demand–Satanism and genocide–isn’t it wonderful in this Brave New World?

  168. MrVoid says:

    The problem consists in the fact that they are compelled to drag their beds out into the street and demand societal approval. Once they get that, or at least tolerance of that, they come to figure that they are the ones who are right-side up and that society has got it upside down. (Actually they think that all along, but once they collectivize it comes out of the closet.)

    I already stated that they’re asking too much. What I don’t buy is that the status quo is the way things have to be. If gay men want a future in which they can exist in relative comfort, they had better choose more trustworthy allies. If Arabs, Blacks, and Mexicans are able to dominate culture at the street level, then gays (gay men specifically) will not be happy, and we can guarantee that the Jews at the top of the totem pole don’t really care about the welfare of gay people at all. That faction only cares about itself and any other concerns are always subservient.

    So, perhaps paradoxically, in spite of of all us being aware that many gays can be found at the vanguard of the Ziomarxist army, I’m saying that they should consider switching sides. Now, what you say about them always wanting a quick fix, sexually and politically, is true. Maybe that’s why they won’t listen.

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  169. When queer satanists take over the church, it turns into the church of satan.

    Republican Party was the Party of Lincoln. The Northern Party. But it became the Party of the South, of the former Dixiecrats. It was also the conservative family values party. Now, it’s the libertarian-Las-Vegas party of vice.

    Democratic Party was the Party of New Deal and Big Labor. It is now the party of Wall Street and decadent fancy-pants homos.

    So, any organization is remolded by whomever takes over as the new tenants. Catholic Church is now the church of satan or church of sodom. But then, Christianity is dead.

    Well, Jews are happy. The globo-homo thing was a Jewish invention. But then, so was Christianity.

    If Christianity was the product of renegade Jews smuggling the Jewish God to gentiles, globo-homo is the product of Jewish Supremacism using the ‘gay agenda’ to destroy the work of ancient renegade Jews.

  170. Look help the young stuff find their vocation has always been a fringe for the clergy.
    It will stop when the Church is gone and not before: it is bone deep, no pun intended.

  171. apollonian says: • Website
    @MrVoid

    Most Effective Mass-Movement Must Address Core Basis Of Satanist Structure–Central Banking

    So, perhaps paradoxically, in spite of of all us being aware that many gays can be found at the vanguard of the Ziomarxist army, I’m saying that they should consider switching sides. Now, what you say about them always wanting a quick fix, sexually and politically, is true. Maybe that’s why they won’t listen.

    “Switching sides” is inconceivable at present moment when the central bank system (legalized counterfeiting, literally–see Mises.org for expo; use their site search-engine) is still riding high, the people continuing to accept their (potentially) infinite currency-units (not real money, commodity-based, like gold/silver, hence LIMITED in quantity) in buying and paying for goods & svcs.

    ONLY when the currency collapses and now people begin to seriously starving, along w. serious rioting and civil un-rest, etc., will anything like “switching sides” even begin to become practical. Meantime, Satanist masterminds will get USA into wars to distract the people, muddying the waters as top master-minds make their get-aways to other countries, etc.

    For w. the currency still being widely accepted, satanic masterminds at top can too easily finance mob-style rub-outs and assassinations, media smears and defamation, etc., in keeping the lower-level henchmen, and everyone else, in line.

    That’s why central-banking is absolute KEY to things cultural, conspiratorial, and political–it’s what finances Satanism and its activity. And only a serious Christian-style revolution, as of St. Constantine the Great, early 4th cent., could possibly affect things so that the people would be mobilized and motivated when the currency system begins to seriously falling apart. Long as that central-bank remains standing and fairly strong, NOTHING will change or happen that bankers don’t control.

    For example: one great weak pt. of the Satanists is their hold and grasp upon the “evangelical” “Judeo-Christian” (JC–see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo) defenders and supporters of terror-state of Israel–up to 60 million strong, according to some estimates. A simple but intensive missionary-type truth-telling for these JCs could and would be tremendously effective, and of course, continuing to emulating Ron Paul (see the RonPaulLibertyReport.com) for his consistent exposing of the central-banking scam as just legalized counterfeiting is necessary and most promising for immediate effects upon the people.

  172. Yeah ultra liberals ay “Jesus never talked about homosexuality”. That is true because it wasnt prevalent in his environment. Adultery was – so He spoke against that. But when his apostles wrote to the Roman amd Greek congregations they absolutely spoke out against homosexuality and orgies amd drunken revelry. The messages were targeted to the audiences.
    Popes are politicians – not spiritual leaders .

  173. @Observator

    That doesnt make sense since Jesus real pronunciation is Yeshua like Joshua. He was a Semite.

  174. @Z-man

    The fact that theyteach priests not to marrya woman is part of why they are facing the judgement from their u dercover child molestations. They were already against the bible. The apostles are clear… A man should prove himself by having a family and governing his house before he could be a leader in a church. Sodomy is unnatural – but so is telling men they shouldnt desire the pleasure of a woman. Men are supposed to have sexual desire toward women.

  175. @Majority of One

    That is a ritual that developed among a sect of European Jewry… That does not feature in the original Eastern culture.

  176. @anon

    Good comment… Though in reality the stoning of the woman was called “a test” and had nothing to do with being “barbaric”. Why? They wanted to see what He would say. They were under Roman occupation and could not stone anyone without incurring wrath from the Romans. (That’s the same reason they had to find something for the Romans to charge Him with for Him to be crucified.) If He said she shouldn’t be stoned – then they could say He wasn’t the Messiah. So He indeed pointed out many of them were obviously guilty of capital punishment worthy sin… So they couldn’t answer Him and turned away…
    It’s really the same issue of asking Him about paying taxes to the Romans… It was always about trying to find fault and get Him in trouble with the Romans.

  177. @gay troll

    “I think you are missing Jesus’s point, which is that executing an adultress can never be a righteous act.”

    That is completely false. The whole point was they were trying to trick Him into giving a wrong answer. Under Roman occupation they did not have the authority to carry out capital punishment. That was why the Romans crucified him and not Jewish officials. The context was all about entrapment. He did NOT say she shouldn’t be executed.

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  178. MrVoid says:
    @showmethereal

    That is completely false. The whole point was they were trying to trick Him into giving a wrong answer. Under Roman occupation they did not have the authority to carry out capital punishment. That was why the Romans crucified him and not Jewish officials. The context was all about entrapment. He did NOT say she shouldn’t be executed.

    Were you one of the would be rock-throwers and you learned that Rome had declared execution at your own murdery Yahweh-worshipping hands to be legal, would you throw rocks? I can’t wait to hear the answer to this.

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  179. @Dumbo

    Great comment. Also not spoken about is that there is no less instances of domestic abuse in homosexual “couples”. So literally there is no benefit – but there are many drawbacks.
    As you noted there are simply confusions. That is why often in woman/woman “relations” – there is a “male” and a “female” in the relationship. As a woman noted to me – if they really didn’t desire a male they wouldn’t have to use “plastic” – if you get the drift. But because of political correctness – these (im)practical things are not spoken about.

  180. @MrVoid

    Your emotional response has nothing to do with the issue. Israel had it’s own courts. That vigilante group would have been guilty of murder as well. Executions could only had been carried out after sentence was passed by council of elders. You don’t get the context of what was going on. It was all about trying to have an accusation.
    I admit that I have done things worthy of death according to biblical standard. And if I was alive in the era I could have been executed. But then again – I didn’t grow up in an environment that taught that. What is your point? I don’t try to justify my own self. Just the facts.

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  181. MrVoid says:
    @showmethereal

    I guess I skimmed your posts too quickly and ended up misunderstanding you. My bad. Anyway, I maintain that gays are fools to hitch their wagon to Ziomarxism. In presentday narrative bought into by the majority of gays, we (White conservatives) are the devil. They’re fools if they think that Blacks, Mexicans, and Arabs will be less homophobic than White people, and they’re fools all over again if they think that Jews won’t abandon them as soon as they cease to be useful. That’s why I keep saying that gay people should just accept the devil they know and jump ship.

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  182. apollonian says: • Website
    @MrVoid

    Gay Culture: Integral Part Of Satanic Culture

    See # 175, above: why would they “jump ship”?–their “ship” is extreme subjectivism, the idea that reality is created by mind/consciousness, making them God-like in ability to create/determine reality–Satanism. If they’re “gay,” they’re Satanists, insisting they were “born” to it all, etc.–which is actually a kind of determinism in itself.

    But that’s nature of Satanism and irrationalism: they want things both ways, determinist when it’s convenient, but also “moralistic” (w. power of perfectly “free” will) when it’s convenient and they “choose” to be “good,” which “good” to them is “non-discriminatory,” “diverse,” “tolerant,” etc., “evil” then being the opposite, which “evil” they ascribe to Christians who uphold the OBJECTIVE reality, hence truth (= Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6).

    Gays are addicts for sense-gratification to begin with which they want to turn into a virtue–they’re also notoriously anti-rationalist, anti-intellectual, etc.–thoroughly satanistic through and through–they naturally blend-in w. the other Satanists, pretending they’re “special,” that they’re higher order of humanity, etc., typical of all Satanists.

    Gays even glory in idea they’re dis-liked by “conventional” humanity (oriented to objective reality); they’re “discriminated” against and “oppressed”–like the other Satanists, “liberals,” etc.–it’s all part of their Satanist culture/mentality.

    Besides, they’re (“gay”) satanic world is still paramount, the central banks continuing to dominate, satanic master-minds continuing to rule–have u seen the latest fraud they’re trying to pull-off?–one of the greatest election scams in US history in front of everyone, practically in everyone’s face, which numerous people predicted, like about “mail-in” ballots, etc. Only problem is the election scam is SOOOO outrageous–too many people know lots about it, which tends to eliminate any credibility hence legitimacy when so many agree it’s just gross, blatant fraud.

    It’s like u want to insist gays are such pooower victims, golly gee–they’re not–they’re full-in Satanists/subjectivists no less than the other Satanists, gays integral part of the entire network/complex, and many of them readily admit it and glory in it all.

  183. MrVoid says:

    See # 175, above: why would they “jump ship”?–their “ship” is extreme subjectivism, the idea that reality is created by mind/consciousness, making them God-like in ability to create/determine reality–Satanism. If they’re “gay,” they’re Satanists, insisting they were “born” to it all, etc.–which is actually a kind of determinism in itself.

    This is rediculous. A gay man can believe just about anything when it comes to metaphysics. If they predominately believe one thing more than another on the subject of conciousness then, IMO, it doesn’t matter. Where people fall in these issues does matter very much in the real world. If gay troll believes some particularly flaky thing about the nature of conciousness, I really don’t care. FWIW you probably believe that what I believe is “Satanic”. I actually believe that the physical world projects out of conciousness, but that does not confer my with any ability to shape the physical world. It only shows that conciousness and the physical world are forever locked in a perfect dance and the conciousness that I call mine is hardly mine at all. I can’t just will myself a pile of gold. If I could, surely I would. I think gaytroll would too. I don’t think he’s crazy. What if I’m wrong about this? I can just move on and revise my belief when I’m proven wrong.

    Gays are addicts for sense-gratification to begin with which they want to turn into a virtue–they’re also notoriously anti-rationalist, anti-intellectual, etc.–thoroughly satanistic through and through–they naturally blend-in w. the other Satanists, pretending they’re “special,” that they’re higher order of humanity, etc., typical of all Satanists.

    I agree that gay men are relatively more hedonistic and a part of that is because there’s no barrier to then getting continual sexual gratification. It’s way harder for a straight guy to get laid than for a gay guy to get laid. A gay guy just has to walk into a gay bar and the work is done. They are also more prone to drug use so that means that there is more to the picture, but that’s really their problem to solve if they can. Society can live and let live. As for turning their hedonism into virtue, I think a lot of that is a put on. They’re being heavily incentivized.

    It’s like u want to insist gays are such pooower victims, golly gee–they’re not–they’re full-in Satanists/subjectivists no less than the other Satanists, gays integral part of the entire network/complex, and many of them readily admit it and glory in it all.

    WHat you are saying is a huge exxageration of my thinking. I try to avoid thinking about who victimised who in the past. As a non-Jew, that’s not my way. The only thing that I’m claiming is that gay men won’t like what their present moment allies eventually do to them. Whether that’s victimization or not can be left for others to decide.

    I notice that you see everything through some sort of religious prism. Many categories of things you object to are lumped into the umbrella category of “Satanic”. I don’t even know if Satan (Mara in Buddhism) is real. If you’re going to use overtly religious terminology you should be sure that your intended audience shares your religious convictions. If not, there’s not enough points of contact to make the use of such language worthwhile.

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  184. apollonian says: • Website
    @MrVoid

    “MrVoid” Imagines He’s “Neutral” Btwn Subjective Vs. Objective When He’s Really Submerged In Subjectivism

    “A gay man can believe just about anything when it comes to metaphysics.”

    Yes, this is subjectivism–anything goes, consciousness, hence will is what determines reality, the pretext most commonly being moralism, pretending to non-existent “good-evil,” the core essence of inferiority-complex which affects so many over-populated goons and suckers whom then Satanists naturally dominate, control, and manipulate–as we see.

    “I actually believe that the physical world projects out of conciousness,…”

    Indeed, this (by u) is subjectivism by definition. U reject the objective view, IF u even begin to seriously understanding it.

    “It only shows that conciousness and the physical world are forever locked in a perfect dance and the conciousness that I call mine is hardly mine at all.”

    And this (by u) is mere affected, “tweaked” subjectivism–it’s still subjectivism. Reality doesn’t “dance”–that’s merely ur own wishful, affected notion.

    “I can’t just will myself a pile of gold.”

    Again, this (by u) is just more affected subjectivism, a little tweak, which doesn’t occur to u as outright contradiction, disqualification; u still affect to subjectivism, merely making an exception. U rule-out the either-or–which is classic subjectivism by definition.

    “I don’t think he’s crazy. What if I’m wrong about this? I can just move on and revise my belief when I’m proven wrong.”

    “Crazy”?–but what’s crazy?–that’s just the pt. Is Satanism (extreme subjectivism) crazy?–yes, and those who accept the objective (hence determined) reality (absolute cause-effect) understand such Satanism as definition of “crazy”–it’s dis-ordered and un-controlled, by definition and nature–it removes one’s reason and ability to make use of logic. “Proven wrong”?–but what’s “proven”?–“Proof” requires the objective reality which u reject. What’s “wrong”?–there’s nothing “wrong” in subjectivism–anything goes. We see u’re not just a little conflicted and confused.

    The very pt. to “gay” mentality and culture is the addiction to sense-gratification above all which the Christian/rationalist/objective culture/mentality rejects as matter of ethics, subordinating such addiction to reason–which gays, by definition REFUSE to do in all hostility and rejection of objectivity, reality, and reason.

    Gays, for example, want to insist they have a right to adopting children and teaching them in schools that gay culture is acceptable in rational society and reality–which is rejected by Christian and objective reality, for such gay “culture” is degeneration and corruption itself, demonstrated in all history and as we see in present reality.

    Finally, u tell us,

    “I notice that you see everything through some sort of religious prism.”

    In ur subjectivist prejudice, u can’t imagine philosophy is often placed in metaphoric and literary framework (like “New Testament”), undermining and subverting any ability to grasp serious philosophy–as by which Christianity is worship of TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) above all, as I noted, hence upholding the objective reality (Aristotle) against extreme subjectivism.

    It doesn’t occur to ur prejudiced, affected, horrendously limited, and stunted mentality that Satanism is actually purest philosophy which only uses mysticism to hide what it really is–extreme subjectivism–making oneself to be God, the creator–but whose fault is that?

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