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From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance. From throwing Intifada rocks that barely scratched occupation tanks, to lobbing rockets that can now reach anywhere in Israel: this is presently the undeniable status of the Palestinian Resistance. Hard, therefore, not to deduce that some impressive progress has been achieved by the armed Palestinian Resistance in Gaza, despite Gaza being under a severe land, sea and air siege. Right under the very noses of the bulky Israeli military and its lauded hi-tech Intel, the Palestinian Resistance has managed to arm itself in a significant way – and indeed, it continues to improve its arsenal, undetected. Of course, Israel’s weaponry remains by far more superior to that of the Palestinians, but this superiority in arms became meaningless during the recent ‘Sword of Jerusalem’ combat: a small war that found the Israeli forces unilaterally withdrawing from the battlefield after only some ten days. In normal military parlance, this would be defined as a defeat, yet this defeat is being referred to in the West as a ‘ceasefire’. Well, semantics aside, the simple takeaway is that Israel’s mighty military lost to pitiful Gaza rockets. The biblical story of David and Goliath repeated itself right before our modern eyes. And from here on, the hulking Israeli military will be powerless to protect Israeli Jews and their properties in the holy land.

In 1948, Zionism had promised the Jews of Israel two vital services: security and prosperity. Indeed, it had kept good on its promise for some 73 years. But now, in 2021 and post the ‘Sword of Jerusalem’ war, it can no longer provide either. From here on, Zionism cannot guarantee either security or prosperity for its Jewish population – not with Gaza rockets now permanently looming and ready to disrupt daily Jewish life in the holy land. It used to be that the Israeli military was the one capriciously disrupting the security and prosperity of Palestinians, but overnight, the success of the ‘Sword of Jerusalem’ has turned the tables on Israel. From here on, Palestine calls the shots. From here on, Israel will pay a very heavy price for any significant aggression against the suffering, occupied Palestinian people. This equation is now fixed; immovable. This is the new status quo.

Moreover, Zionism, appealing specifically to Jewish zealots, had also promised the total Judeofication of Jerusalem. A project that is contrary to International Law. A project that entails illegal land theft and the total ethnic cleansing of native Palestinians from their ancestral homes. Now, this project has come to a total standstill, with Hassan Nasrallah announcing recently that his resistance army, Hezbollah, as well as the armies of other members of the Axis of Resistance, will from here on militarily involve themselves in defending Jerusalem from this Judeofication project. Therefore, what we have now is Gaza’s improved rocketry checking Israel from within, and from without, we have several million Axis of Resistance fighters and their immense arsenal standing by, all ready to liberate Jerusalem at a moment’s notice. “Jerusalem for regional war,” was Nasrallah’s succinct warning to Israel. A regional war that will in fact be an existential war for Israel. A regional war that even the staunchest Israeli supporters are deathly fearful of because it will completely destroy modern Israel and cost tens of thousands of Jewish lives.

With Israel’s Zionism now unable to fulfill any of its fundamental promises, where does all this leave Zionism but collapsing before the very eyes of Jews themselves.

It is now simply impossible for Israel to reverse its sinking fortune without igniting a suicidal, regional war. No power on earth, not even mighty US powers can reverse this track. All the US and other Western friends of Israel can do now is delay the inevitable destruction of Israel with the use of a proverbial band aid here and a band aid there. Blinken, who is currently visiting the holy land is offering nothing but band aids to both sides. Other Western leaders will soon enough also come to Tel Aviv and to Ramallah with offers of more band aid. In reality, no one has anything else to offer Israel but band aid, because everything else has already been gifted to Israel in the past, and Israel appears to have squandered and abused, instead of used these gifts wisely for its longevity’s sake. There is no more that the West can do for Israel, save for actually sending their troops to the holy land to die for the Jews. An unlikely and most controversial move to now send democratic Western troops to die for ‘Apartheid Israel’, especially in the current depressive economic state that the whole world finds itself in. And Even if some Western nation was foolish enough to send its troops to fight for Tel Aviv, these troops will not be able to stop the intensive waves of Resistance precision missiles and rockets already poised to saturate Tel Aviv and the rest of Israel proper. Here, even geography is against Israel.

The ‘Sword of Jerusalem’ has irreversibly weakened Israel, not just on the home front, but the world over too. Overnight, Israel’s universal image went from its traditional ‘victim State’, straight to ‘Apartheid state’. Now, in the minds of the majority of the world, Israel is believed to be an Apartheid state. And in this new Apartheid definition of Israel, the so-called holocaust violin and begging bowl are nowhere to be found. The world is no longer interested in considering the sentimental holocaust when it comes to Israel. All the world can see now are the numerous and unconscionable Crimes Against Humanity that Israel has wantonly engaged in against the Palestinians – numerous crimes that israel has committed without a single instance of accountability. The world is no longer prepared to remain silent on this, or to accept the status of Israel as eternal victim.

So very much has been shattered within the Zionist machinery by the ‘Sword of Jerusalem’. And there are no spare parts to be found anywhere to replace them. Not even a false flag operation by Israel will return it to the victim chair. The whole gaggle and cackle of Jewish deceptions are by now also known and exposed to global populations. What in the past used to work in favor of Israel, is no longer working. The apple has lost its shine.

And another major victim of the ‘Sword of Jerusalem’ is the Deal of the Century. At this stage of the game, with Jerusalem currently being a focal and highly emotive topic deluging Arab world medias, it is impossible for any corrupt Arab leader to now sign up anew to the Deal of the Century. And who in their right mind would sign a highly controversial deal with a sinking nation that can offer nothing in return? Mindful here too that two out of the four Arab nations that have already normalized with Israel under the Deal of the Century, did so purely for personal and not ideological reasons. These two nations are Sudan that signed the Deal in exchange for the removal of its name from the US’s terrorism list; and Morocco that signed the Deal in exchange for US support in Morocco’s illegal land claims over the Western Sahara. We can therefore safely say that out of 22 Arab nations, only two despotic Arab dictatorships are ideologically aligned with Israel: the UAE and Bahrain. These petite Zioninst-Arab nations cannot save Israel from even a single Gaza rocket, let alone from the combined weapons of the Axis of Resistance that now surround Israel: all coiled and waiting for Israel to miscalculate. Kushner’s attempt at wiping out the Palestine cause from the Arab world by creating a normalization program has utterly and completely failed. The Palestine cause has never been stronger in the Arab mind than it is now. The Deal of the Century has become the Tomb of the Century.

Moreover, an even more important pro Israel project has also collapsed at the swipe of the ‘Sword of Jerusalem’: The Oslo Agreement. No longer are the Palestinians happy with just a pitiful ‘crumb of land with no autonomy’ offered to them by Israel under Oslo, they are now unanimously demanding the return of all their land ‘from the river to the sea’. Their supporters worldwide are backing this notion by loudly chanting ‘from the river to the sea’ at all their mass protests. The ‘Sword of Jerusalem’ has veritably stabbed Oslo in the heart. The Two State Solution is dead. The One State Palestine Solution has grown massive wings.

Indeed, with Palestine now demanding all its land back ‘from the river to the sea’, Zionism appears to have symbolically lost all the land it acquired by force of arms since 1948. This symbolism will now become a reality in the next war between Israel and the Axis of Resistance. And war is coming. Plans and maps for the final War 0f Liberation remain very much on the table. Over the past 7 decades, Israel had stridently rejected numerous calls by friend and foe alike to surrender to the Levant’s historic culture of equitable coexistence between religions; rejected blending into the local scenery, opting instead to war against all its neighbors so as to assert itself as a vastly dominant power beyond reproach. Now it finds itself with many missed opportunities for peace and with its jugular bleeding: cut by no less than an over-zealous, blunt Zionist knife. War is coming to the holy land because Zionism has relentlessly expressed itself as a supremacist ideology that is fundamentally incapable of compromise, incapable of equality and justice, incapable of making real and genuine peace with any of its non Jewish neighbors. Through unchecked savagery, through arrogance and overreach since its inception, Israel has now become impotent in the face of the real existential threat it faces today. Apartheid policies and land-kleptomania will only get you so far. The Jews should have learned this lesson from the now defunct Apartheid South Africa.

Israel and its Jewish population now find themselves in an unsustainable and untenable position. They have now but two choices: depart from the Jewish colony in peace and physically intact, or from here on face a daily life of fear of Palestinian rockets and whatnot, followed eventually by a violent death when the big war breaks out.

Addressing Israeli Jews in his speech yesterday, Nasrallah stated: “We see how Muslim and Christian holy places are these days under dangerous attacks by you. When you destroy homes and people in Palestine: we leave this to the internal Palestinian Resistance to address. But we as the Axis of Resistance cannot stand idly by when you violate the sanctity of Muslim and Christian holy places in Jerusalem. Any further violations of Jerusalem by you will lead to regional war.”

Will Israeli civilian and military societies listen to Nasrallah’s warning, or will they, in their traditional arrogance, dismiss his words as being mere empty threats?

The Axis of Resistance now has all its war ducks lined up. The much longed for and necessary Palestinian unity is now a reality. All the needed weapons for victory are a reality. Global moral support for Palestinian liberation is now a reality. The War of Liberation is but one single step away. And the timing of this war will be triggered when Israel foolishly violates Jerusalem again. And violate it will, in its attempt to put oxygen back in the collapsing lung of Zionism. After all, violation is the only method that Israel knows. Violation is the definitive Israeli MO.

Will the Jews of Israel now risk life and limb and continue clinging to and supporting a shattered Zionism that can no longer deliver them its promised goods? Or will their survival instinct kick in and have them packing suitcases and returning back to their European, Russian and American origins?

A combination of both, I suspect. Some Jews will leave Israel. Some won’t. The die-hard Zionists are pathologically deluded enough to remain: believing that present conditions are militarily reversible. They’re not. Not anymore. Not ever. All that the Zionist Israeli government can do now in the aftermath of the ‘Sword of Jerusalem’ is ease up a small measure of pressure on the Palestinians and on the city of Jerusalem: buying itself time to come up with a solution that would be acceptable to both Israeli Jews on one hand, and Palestinian Muslims and Christians on the other. But Zionism, by its own definition does not allow for equitable co-existence with non-Jews. Sober minds on both sides do not believe that a win-win solution is available, or feasible. They estimate that this too-little-too-late path of Israel releasing some pressure on Jerusalem will lead to nowhere, and at some point en route, the Israeli government will become insensible with frustration to the point of miscalculation. Indeed, it will be Israel’s very last miscalculation.

We shall soon enough see a costly but heroic and historic return of the nation of Palestine: from the river to the sea.

No stopping now the winds of change that favor the suffering Palestinians.

(Republished from Plato's Guns by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Or will their survival instinct kick in and have them packing suitcases and returning back to their European, Russian and American origins?

    Only an Arab would consider Jews to have “European origins”.

  2. Well, there’s always that fine place out in Eastern Siberia that was set aside for them by Uncle Yusif – possibly out of sentiments for his Jewish wife. Madagascar is out because the lemurs are endangered already. Better yet, if someone could find a planet and re-name it Schlomo…. some epic real-estate deals could be made. All of their stolen loot for a nice cozy place of their own in a galaxy far, far away.

  3. …Some Jews will leave Israel. Some won’t….

    Virtually all colonists who landed in Palestine since 1948 from abroad have at least 2 passports and they should all return to their home countries if they don’t want to live in peace with the local folks.

    The last European colony in the Middle East will be fully liberated. It doesn’t mean that all Jews will have to leave Palestine – Had the colonists accepted the notion of one man one vote in a democracy, the problem would have been resolved a long time ago – but they want a theocratic state (Jewish) on somebody else’s land and that won’t happen.

    Algeria was freed from a brutal 132 year old French occupation and Palestine will be freed too – no matter what. That’s how history works.

    In fact, because of censorship people don’t even know what happened in the 1948 occupied lands during the latest 11 day war. Here are some of the videos that prove that the next war will be the last – those who can leave Palestine should leave now before it’s too late unless they like these videos:

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/05/25/vt-blockbuster-exclusive-why-israel-surrendered-to-hamas-smuggled-horror-video/

  4. TG says:

    Hmm.. maybe. But here’s another take.

    Israel has realized the folly of trying to militarily defeat the Palestinians on the ground, and is only interested in keeping them contained and controlling their numbers by crippling their access to resources. So far that has not changed one bit. Israel is still in charge.

    And let’s not forget: Hamas spent many years and a lot of effort and a lot of their limited cash acquiring all these rockets. The result of Hamas shooting countless primitive unguided missiles at Israel was: a tiny number of civilian casualties easily brushed off (at least in the strategic sense). If anything this should be a major defeat for Hamas: all that effort and buildup wasted, and their threatened ability to hit Israel is shown to be hollow (although maybe not hollow in the PR sense).

    How much of the Arsenal of Hamas was expended in this conflict? A tiny amount? A lot? Most? That’s one of the big questions. If Hamas is nearly tapped out, that would be major.

    If the Hamas really wants the ability to hurt (deter) Isreal, they need some more modern weapons with decent guidance and maybe some jamming. If Israel lost a couple of major electric generating stations and a desalinization plant, that would be major. Hamas is not stupid, I would expect them to be thinking along those terms…

    A wild card is what the Israeli Arab citizens will do. Will they continue to go along to get along, or not? They could potentially tear it all down, if they are willing to risk it all in rebellion. I don’t know.

    And of course ‘world public opinion’ (or cynical realpolitik). Will the Israeli lobby continue to rule over all, or will the edifice crack? I don’t know, it’s dangerous to bet against the political power of the Israeli lobby, but these kinds of things tend to be stable and then change all at once. If enough people challenge Israel at the same time, and people see that they can get away with challenging Israel, then the trickle becomes a flood becomes a tsunami. The more overwhelming the perception of power is, the more rapidly it can vanish… We will see.

    • Agree: El Dato, Z-man, Escher
  5. I am sure the Russians don’t want them back.

    • Agree: Pheasant
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  6. “From rocks to rockets. This is now the recorded evolution of the armed Palestinian Resistance.”

    I’m pretty sure they’ve done rockets before. Or did one of the d-mails I sent cause me to shift to a different world-line where that never happened? Good thing my Reading;Steiner is operational or even I, Hooine Keeohma, would have forgotten.

  7. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Author is substituting wishful thinking for reality. Nearby Arab countries of Egypt and Jordan as well as Saudi Arabia care little about Palestinians, Jordan having actually attacked them in 1970. Non-Arab Iran is the main patron of Hezbollah and supporter of the Palestinians which could lead to the US attacking it at some point. In the event of some major event distracting world attention were the Israelis to spray, say, Agent Orange the length and breadth of Gaza what could anyone do? Surreptitious biological warfare? People like Netanyahu are ruthless and in an us-or-them situation wouldn’t hesitate. They have nuclear weapons which could go off, don’t forget. It’s fantasy to think they’ll all pack their bags and move to NY. Look at the Palestinian footprint from seventy years ago to today, it’s all been in one direction, that of getting smaller, dwindling down like the Assyrians have been phased out by their Arab Muslim neighbors. This comment is not part of some pro or anti anything but just an attempt to look at the situation in a rational and realistic way.

  8. Nearby Arab countries of Egypt and Jordan as well as Saudi Arabia care little about Palestinians…

    They are the Puerto Ricans of Araby. Nobody wants them. But they can be of cynical use to some.

    Perhaps US statehood is the answer? Call Nancy…

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @TKK
  9. A couple of articles from Richard Silverstein that appear to dovetail with this one …

    The first:

    https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2021/05/22/israel-loses-the-war-again/

    He quotes a Bloomberg article in which we read:

    Hamas fired over 4,000 projectiles in 11 days of fighting. That is a huge increase in the rate of fire compared to the 2014 Gaza war, when Hamas fired 4,500 in 50 days. Just as alarming is the improved quality of Hamas’ arsenal: In the latest conflict, it was able to lob projectiles much farther into Israel than before. Hamas also used so-called “suicide drones” which, unlike its rockets, can be directed at specific targets.

    This is part of a pattern developing across the region. Yemen’s Houthi rebels have used increasingly sophisticated rockets and drones against Saudi Arabia, as have Shiite militias in Iraq, against U.S. forces. By far the largest, most advanced stockpile belongs to Lebanon’s Hezbollah, which includes precision-guided missiles as well as rockets that may one day be launched from long-range drones.

    All these arsenals in the possession of non-state actors share a common origin: Iran. In recent years, the Islamic Republic has supplied these groups, key members of Tehran’s region-wide network of proxies and partners, with tens of thousands of rockets and drones, as well as the technology to build them. In the process, it has fundamentally transformed warfare in the Middle East.

    The second Silverstein article:

    https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2021/05/23/israeli-pilots-we-couldnt-stop-the-rockets-so-we-took-our-frustration-out-on-gaza-apartment-towers/

    In this piece, we read portions of an Israeli television interview with pilots who made the Gaza bombing runs that brought down high-rise buildings. Some excerpts:

    I take off on a sortie with a sense of purpose, but it’s just that I think that the destruction of the towers has turned into our way of unloading our frustration at not succeeding in stopping the rockets, not stopping the actions of the terror groups. So we bring down towers. …

    There is some criticism [among the pilots] about the focus on destroying multi-story buildings in Gaza. It’s their belief that they’re uncertain it had the full effect Israel sought.

    One can’t help but get the impression of lingering fragility among the ranks.

    • Agree: Pheasant
    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  10. J says:

    Palestinian victory? You find them begging for charity all over the world, while Israelis are scuba diving in Seychelles.

  11. This article is nothing but endless assertions. But that’s what the nebulous ‘international community’ is made of, pseudo-moral assertions plus a few cherry-picked facts.

    Israel? Palestine? Why in the world should anyone be forced to pick either side?

    The only thing that’s important is the following… each and every Jew in the world should be prevented from ever again meddling in their host societies. The only way to be sure about that is to have each and every Jew in the world make aliyah to Israel. And if Israel doesn’t exist, then they have nowhere to go. Conclusion: there had better be an Israel solidly in existence.

    • Agree: Sarah
    • Disagree: Kali
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    • Troll: James Speaks
    • Replies: @Daniel Rich
  12. RobinG says:

    On the sudden [convenient] rise in anti-semitism, Yasha Levine writes.

    “As soon as the narrative started to shift on Israel, a curious thing happened: anti-Jewish violence suddenly, overnight, became a huge thing in America. “We Jews are under attack! We’re cowering in fear, seeking refuge with sympathetic goy friends!””

    Scared to be Jewish in Los Angeles?

    https://yasha.substack.com/p/scared-to-be-jewish-in-los-angeles

    “The whole thing is of course bullshit.”

    • Replies: @turtle
  13. @Exalted Cyclops

    why saddle russia with a problem they’ve already overcome? america, the land that embraces the downtrodden, LA, ny, langley, florida, shore to beautiful shore beckon, we need look no further. bring your weary, war torn, make our land our yours…what?

  14. bayviking says:

    Yeah, sure, Palestinians are calling the shots, with rocks and homemade rockets, as soon as they can locate some food and water. While searching for food and water they will have to shit in the streets. Meanwhile, Israel waits for its latest shipment of US weapons, paid for by US taxpayers. An aghast world draws its own conclusions, but will not intervene.

    • Replies: @grr
  15. @Nostradamus

    Facilitation of reverse-Aliya…

    Israel National News, 25 May 2021
    State Department okays use of expired US passports
    US citizens abroad will be able to use expired passports to return home, State Department says.

  16. Dumbo says:

    Jews are not European. At most, they are Khazar (Turkic). Or Semites mixed with some European genes.

    I don’t think what the author says will happen. The situation has been like this for decades and so far I see no reason for it not to continue for still longer.

    We shall soon enough see a costly but heroic and historic return of the nation of Palestine: from the river to the sea.

    I don’t think there was ever a “nation of Palestine”, it was always occupied by different peoples and the name is Roman. There have been Jews, Turks, Arabs and others living there for a long time. Probably a one-state solution would be the easiest option but Zionists will never accept it. A two-state solution is unlikely. I think it will just continue like this for decades.

    Maybe one day China will occupy and colonize the region, that could be another solution.

  17. meamjojo says:
    @AnonStarter

    If Hamas ever figures out how to get more successful at hitting targets in Israel, rather than being just an annoying mosquito biting an elephants ass, it will provide Israel with the opportunity to really go after them, which will result in a very large number of Palestinian deaths and crippling injuries.

    Where’s the popcorn?

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  18. Art says:

    Some Jews will leave Israel. Some won’t.

    Most Israeli Jews have nowhere to go – they will have no option but to fight for their lives.

    Does the Axis of Resistance have a plan for them? Or are we to start a new round of mass killing?

    I am pro-Palestine. I believe that Palestine would return to being a peaceful place where all three religions can accommodate each other.

    Is that the plan?

  19. Americans and the free world now under siege by (((globalists alphabet stock tickers))) have learned a lot from Hamas and Palestinian freedom fighters about how to resist the forces against us. In there quest to disarm, censor, silence and force us to be injected with a ziopoison that would make Stalin’s slaughter look like a typical day in Detroit, the world has awakened to the real criminals in our mist.
    Who needs legal guns when the global black market is offering some of the most sophisticated weapons to counter any pushback from those that control a corrupt system that hates you.
    If billions in drugs can flow freely, so can arms.

    • Replies: @Tympaniform
  20. Art says:
    @AnonStarter

    There is some criticism [among the pilots] about the focus on destroying multi-story buildings in Gaza. It’s their belief that they’re uncertain it had the full effect Israel sought.

    One can’t help but get the impression of lingering fragility among the ranks.

    Is it starting to dawn on the Jews – that something terrible is going to happen to the Palestinians, or to them, or to both? Something terrible, they do not want on their history. 7,000,000,000 people are watching.

  21. sulu says:

    And in this new Apartheid definition of Israel, the so-called holocaust violin and begging bowl are nowhere to be found.

    Ha Ha. My favorite sentence in your entire article. Jews always present themselves as the eternal victim. What is it the Palestinians say, “The Jew cries out in pain even as he hits you.” It’s increasingly difficult for them to present themselves as the victim while they bomb innocent children to bits. How much more evidence does the World need to see of Jewish aggression before people realize the Jews for what they are?

    My great hope is for the Jews to be driven out of Palestine and for Israel to cease to exist as a country. The only down side I can see to this will be the fact that many of the survivors would no doubt come to America. Still, it would be a tremendous blow to Jewish power and influence Worldwide so it would serve to take some of the wind from their sails.

    Of course the Jews deserve so much more misfortune to befall them. But loosing Israel would be a great place to start. At least it would mean the pirates wouldn’t have a country to flee to after they have swindled some group of people out of a fortune.

    Sulu

  22. Alfred says:

    The Jews should have learned this lesson from the now defunct Apartheid South Africa.

    The repeated references to Apartheid and South Africa show a total misunderstanding by Taxi of the history of Southern Africa. A total reliance on the MSM nonsense of the West. 🙂

    When the Dutch first settled in the Cape, there were very few Blacks living there. More importantly, they were not ethnically the same as those who currently mismanage South Africa. The Bantu peoples came to “South Africa” from elsewhere because the Whites made it prosperous. Because of the surplus of food due to the farming practices of Whites, the Bantu population increased dramatically. By 1900, there were twice as many Blacks as Whites in South Africa. Today, 20 Blacks are born for every White. A catastrophe.

    The incapacity of the Bantus to run a modern economy or farm will ensure that they will eventually starve. The Whites will die off, emigrate or be killed by these primitives.

    If the Whites had handed over 90% of the country to the Blacks 50 years ago and kept a Whites-only 10% of the country, they would be prosperous today. The Blacks would be living like their ancestors.

    The genocide that the history books prefer to ignore is that perpetuated by the Zulus (Bantus) against the earlier inhabitants of South Africa. An estimated 1.5-2.0 million indigenous Blacks were killed by the invaders from the north.

    Mfecane

    Comparing the Bantus with the Palestinians is a gross injustice towards the latter. The Palestinians have practiced agriculture for thousands of years.

    • Agree: Mevashir, Marckus, mark green
    • Thanks: Sarah
  23. @anonymous

    I tend to agree with your caution re Israel.
    It would be wonderful if this article’s view were to be correct.
    I would agree that some kind of corner has been turned — perhaps we are at the beginning of the end. However, I suspect that end is still far off, unless the Israeli’s calculations really go way off.
    While Israel can still dominate the PR dimension in the West via their Jewish & christian proxies, they will likely maintain the status quo in the M. E. Of course you can never under estimate Israeli /jewish hubris & viciousness.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  24. The irony is that Jews could have assimilated into Palestine, but right from the start and continuing for 70+ years they have operated with rabid savagery against people who have lived there for thousands of years.

    Their crimes are not confined to Palestine, assassinations of high officials, bribery, threats, open war against their enemies by their bought golems, 9/11, the holocaust scam, promotion of moral depravity, “communism”, sanctions etc.
    A relentless war against the world dated from the 1897 Zionist Declaration in Basel.

    Jews have been ejected from over 100 countries for much less.

    Will Jews critical of this horrific record gain ascendency over the psychopaths ?
    Are Jews capable of living at peace with others in the world ?
    Let’s hope the answer is Yes …
    The alternative is not pretty.

  25. jihadijew says:

    I can see Israel’s losses. Watch the delusional trolls argument, kind of paranoia.
    World opinion of Israel as a democratic country has changed to an aggressor. American poodles in Middle East are worried about their existence and wealth control and loss. The will be hunted down by their own people like the olden days where the leaders or kings wee hanged in public squires. I wont be surprised of public hanging or Sissi of Egypt or king of Jordan and democracy in trucial states. It is a matter of time.
    I have met a Saudi PhD in England and after some conversation he admitted with a question”what can we do”. May me some of the families will turn against the rulers. After all they tribal.

    it is interesting to note all these young holooloox survivors in New York who used to bully Arabs and Palestinians are running for covers after a few kicking and beating. With some bloody noses and torn shirts the message was on the wall. There is hardly any mention of the word Anti Semite anymore. It is going to spill over in US universities, I mean bullying of young holocaooost survivors in the educational institutions, removing of professors who speak different than what they are supposed to. Wait till the curtain drops.

  26. gotmituns says:
    @AnonStarter

    Don’t read anything written by a jew.

    • Disagree: AnonStarter
  27. I think there is a resurgence of Jewish Islamophobia because at this point in time, Israel has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And we fellow Jews are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Israel is not going to be the monolithic society that it was in the last century. It’s a huge transformation and we fellow Jews will be resented for our leading role.

    #openbordersforisrael

    #blm #freepalestine

    #boycott #divestment #sanctions

    #dismantle #deconstruct

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  28. Taxi, that’s two great articles of yours in two weeks – my congratulations to you.

    ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’

    I heard that chanted at the Sydney pro-Palestine demonstration I attended, so I merrily joined in.

    The One State Solution looms ever closer.

  29. A.K.Patal says:
    @anonymous

    When the choice for Jewish settlers becomes to either die for Israel or leave, the choice the settlers will make is fairly predicatable: they will pack their bags and leave. From all that one could gather from their history, every settler is willling to remain in Palestine so long settlers don’t have to risk their lives. If however the situation reaches a point where settlers have to risk their own lives, they will all leave and go back to whatever countries they originally came from, because, unlike the Palestinians and the Lebanese, who have to die for their lands, Jewish settlers have such a tempting alternative. And that is the real weakness of Israel! No country or and no state could survive for very long, if, when goings get tough, all its citizens have the choice to just collect their belongings and leave.
    No wonder Israeli leaders keep demanding the US to guarantee the existence of the Jewish state, perhaps because they sense the end is near.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @simple mind
  30. Taxi once again shows how much she has gone native with the Arabs by adopting their psychology. The same irrational fanaticism, the same inability to see the difference between wish and reality, the same refusal to accept defeat.

    “…‘Sword of Jerusalem’ combat: a small war that found the Israeli forces unilaterally withdrawing from the battlefield after only some ten days. In normal military parlance, this would be defined as a defeat, yet this defeat is being referred to in the West as a ‘ceasefire’…”

    In reality it was Hamas that was requesting a ceasefire and Israel only conceded after it had brought enough destruction to Gaza. To call this a “victory” for Hamas is a typical example of how the Arab psychology works: it is incapable of accepting the reality of defeat, therefore it must be explained as a “victory”.

    We see this among Arabs all the time. When Arafat with his Palestinian rabble was chased away from Lebanon in 1982, they celebrated their “victory” by making the V-sign and shooting into the air. Saddam Hussein’s Iraq celebrated its “victory” the same way in 1991. Now the Gazans do the same. I wish them many more such “victories”.

    The Arabs cannot defeat Israel militarily, they know that and no Arab nation is really interested in trying that, no matter what Hassan Nasrallah may brag from his underground bunker.

    What may change in the world is some increase in the boycott of Israel, but to be effective it has to become worldwide. Even in the unlikely scenario of a worldwide boycott of Israel, that would not succeed in making the Israelis accept a “one man one vote” with the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza. They are different from the naive Boers of South Africa and will not choose for their own destruction.

    Atmost what will happen in the future is more “victories” for the Palestinians, and we already know how that looks:

  31. @Reg Cæsar

    Ok then, eastern European. Happy?

    • LOL: Old and Grumpy
  32. I would like some insight into whether the author really believes his own article.

    Or does he just hope that if he repeats it enough it will become true?

    Or does it bring in donations and is just a flat out fantasy?

    In which case, the same questions as above, may be asked of the donaters.

    I assume someone at some point must be sincere, but I have no idea how one might squint one’s eyes so hard, that reality looks anything like that which is decribed?

    I suppose the picture attached at the top, which is pure psycho-sexual click bait, points in the right direction…

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @silviosilver
  33. PJ London says:

    A force can win many battles, but can only win a “Moral” war.
    Whilst the “Jews/Zionists” were poor little victims, then they had the world support behind them. The Palestinian view was suppressed and discarded. Just as the Jewish view was discarded in Europe before WW2. They were not victims and nobody wanted them.
    Now the shoe is on the other foot. Israel is seen as far more brutal than the nazis or pretty much any other regime.
    Israel has reinforced the image of Jews as lying, stealing, dishonest, murdering scum.
    Now the world views the Palestinians as the victims.
    It was interesting that this time the protests across the world were pro Palestine and virtually none for Israel.
    The blog comments were 99% for Palestine/Gaza and perhaps 1% for Israel.
    The Hasbarah have been shut down. They too have been defeated.
    The politicians will yammer on about ‘right of defence’ they will no longer defend Israeli actions, their constituents won’t allow it.
    No politician in any country will commit troops to the defence of Israel. Many countries would commit troops if they believed that USA would not come to Israel’s defence.

    Israel is finished. It may take a few more years but they are dead.
    Jews will continue to live in Palestine as the first virtue in Islam is Mercy. Allah the merciful.

    “Research shows that the reason for this bizarre Jewish fixation on the number 6,000,000 primarily stems from an ancient religious prophecy in the Torah. According to some sources, the prophecy envisioned that before the Jewish people could reclaim and reconquer Palestine to establish a Jewish homeland called “Israel”, 6,000,000 Jews would first have to perish in a fiery burnt offering.”

    We know that nothing like that number died in WW2.
    There are approximately 6 million Jews in Israel.
    Is the prophecy about to be fulfilled?

    • Replies: @Anon
  34. Victor999 says:
    @TG

    How much of the Arsenal of Hamas was expended in this conflict? A tiny amount? A lot? Most? That’s one of the big questions. If Hamas is nearly tapped out, that would be major.

    Clearly, you don’t understand what happened here. This was obviously a part of a much larger plan involving at least Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. Iran and Hezbollah needed to know the Iron Dome’s saturation point and how long it takes to get there. They couldn’t send thousands of their own rockets against Israel because 1) it would be expensive and 2) it would be perceived by Israel and its allies as a direct act of war, for which Iran and Hezbollah are not yet ready. If, however, Hamas did it, then it would be perceived as the usual uprising by the Palestinians to be quashed by Israel, and life goes on, as you have indicated in your comment.

    Now, however, Hezbollah and Iran know exactly how to overcome the Iron Dome, and Israel has every right to be scared sh*tless. It would not surprise me at all, if when the time comes that Israel finally takes a step too far and starts the final conflagration, she will likely be suddenly faced with many thousands of cheap Hamas missiles thrown at her until the Dome breaks, at which time the REAL missiles, the precision ones from Hezbollah and Iran come into the fight, levelling Israel’s airports, military installations, electric power plants, water supplies, filtration systems, and their cities – many, many thousands of long-range, precision missiles against which Israel can not stand. She will have no time to get resupplied by America.

    At that point, Israel’s “allies”, esp America, will be faced themselves with a heavy decision – enter the fracas, or stand aside. If they enter the conflict, they know that it will bring in Iran directly, Russia and China along with the real threat of widespread regional, if not global, conflict. Will America accept that risk? I don’t believe she will because she knows that road only leads to defeat and possibly the end of civilisation if she instigates nuclear war to avoid defeat. So in the end, it is Israel that will likely have to give in and accept unconditionally a one-state solution – one person, one vote – no theocracy. No “Land of the Jewish People”. Either that or be crushed.

    • Replies: @Sarah
    , @AndrewR
  35. Z-man says:
    @Exalted Cyclops

    LOL, as ‘Brooklyn Dave’ said on this site recently, “Jews to Jewpiter – well, it’s a lot bigger and they can’t complain that there isn’t enough lebensraum.”
    LOL!!!

    • Replies: @A Half Naked Fakir
  36. Just like there’s holocaust remembrance day and memorial day, we need a day for all the people killed by US imperialism.

  37. Sarah says:

    The Jews should have learned this lesson from the now defunct Apartheid South Africa.

    Except that at the time of Apartheid, whites in South Africa were in the minority. In Israel, the Jews are in the majority: 4/5 of the population.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  38. Sarah says:

    and have them packing suitcases and returning back to their European, Russian and American origins?

    Our origin is Israel.
    Palestine was of no interest to anyone. Sparsely populated, with no natural resources, fields of stones, swamps, deserts.

    The Palestinians became interested when the Jews built, cleared, cultivated, drained, irrigated everything.

    So you want us to give up everything we have done and hand it over to the Palestinians?

  39. BorisMay says:

    Jews are bullies and bullies are cowards. They are okay shooting unarmed women and children but they do not have the guts to face men armed with even basic weaponry.

    There was no land invasion by the Zionist military because the last time they attempted that their tanks were blown to bits by ATMs, their artillery were unable to engage real targets and their troops were too cowardly to fight man to man.

    Zionists try to rely on air power just like all modern western militaries. While good for shock and awe, they are useless in suppressing a dedicated military fighting on their home soil.

    Zionist hubris blinds their Jewish supporters from ever seeing the truth. After all, all Zionists are liars and their entire culture is based upon the lie that a god has chosen them to farm the goyim (their name for non Jews that roughly translates as ‘cattle’ who do not have souls).

    Any people who believes this sort of rubbish is clearly unable to see the wood for the trees and would not even know the truth if it slapped them in the face.

    The best answer would be to ship the entire Jewish population of Zion land to Antarctica and then leave them to it.

    In all seriousness Judaism should be seen for the mental illness it actually is, and then treated accordingly.

    • Replies: @omegabooks
    , @AnoN
  40. Sarah says:

    They have now but two choices: depart from the Jewish colony in peace…

    It is the Arabs and Palestinians who have attacked us from the beginning. They have always refused the peace offers that Israel has made.
    The problems between the Jews and the inhabitants of the countries to which they had taken refuge came from the fact that the Jews had no state of their own, unlike the others.
    What other state do you propose? Uganda, Namibia, Madegascar? This would have been possible in the 19th century, but now?

    You want to drive us out of our country, that’s fine, that’s your opinion, but what country do you give us in exchange?

  41. mcohen says:

    Hi taxi

    look at it from another perspective.no rockets from hamas means no way israel can strengthen its hand.
    you need a reason these days to bomb peace loving people.also please use the correct pronouns.

  42. anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Exalted Cyclops

    The total number who’ve moved to the US is impossible to determine. Here’s what The Times of Israel has to say (https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-more-israelis-are-moving-to-the-us/):

    Even the Israeli government produces two different numbers. Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics reports that a little more than 500,000 Israelis in total moved abroad from 1990 to 2014 — and nearly 230,000 came back. But Israel’s US Embassy told JTA that between 750,000 and 1 million Israelis live in the country. Adam Milstein, chairman of the Israeli-American Council, an umbrella group for Israelis here, told JTA that includes 400,000 children born to an Israeli parent.

    The question isn’t how many of the adults are active agents of Israeli espionage, but if there might be any who are not.

    It’s also a category mistake to refer to the majority of Jews in America as Americans even if they’re citizens. They were “citizens” of Spain, too, when they opened the gates to the Moors as they’re doing here with invading armies of Hispanic and Muslim sleeper combatants of military age whose travel expenses are paid for by Jews like Soros and Steyer.

    Eretz Israel consists of Jewry. It’s criminal state and headquarters are safe from prying eyes in Palestine. Forty percent lives as the occupiers of Palestine and another 40% as occupiers of the United States, who in the latter case are now openly engaged in the ethnic cleansing against the white majority in the United States as they are against the majority of Palestinians in Palestine.

    • Agree: Katrinka
  43. @Exalted Cyclops

    They could move to Haiti after it is evacuated. Virtually all the Haitans want to move to other countries, especially the United States, anyway. With Israelis in charge, the dump of a country would be transformed into a Western style democracy with a high standard of living. Just don’t let the Dominicans next door start firing rockets at them and demand the drive them into the sea.

    • LOL: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @DrWatson
  44. Mevashir says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Despotic Arab rulers don’t want them, but the Palestinian cause is extremely popular with the man in the street.

  45. Mevashir says:
    @anonymous

    The Palestinian territorial footprint is shrinking but their population continues to grow. I think that is the factor this article is focusing on. Also Iran is increasingly exposed as the least corrupt of all the Middle Eastern countries, not bought off by dirty American money or occupied by hypocritical American forces.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
  46. moi says:

    It is the beginning of the end for the apartheid settler-colony just as 911 signaled the same for the US. Those autocratic sheikhs will not last long. I would not give them and Israel more than another 25-30 years.

    Palestine Redux!

  47. Mevashir says:
    @anonymouseperson

    When I last lived in Israel in 2005 I worked at a low level security job with three Russian Jews, all of whom had prestigious jobs back in Russia but in Israel had to settle for this minimum wage employment of last resort. All three of them told me that they experienced far more discrimination and persecution from Israelis than they ever did from Russians back home. And all three of them were weighing whether to return to Russia.

    I don’t think it would be difficult for them to move back. Financially it would be extremely difficult, but all of them maintain strong ties to their Russian birthland. The Orthodox Jews in Israel hate the Russian immigrants because they bring with them Russian foods like unkosher sausages along with their non-Jewish spouses. They have a very tenuous position in Israel and I think all of them have a foot in the door back home in Russia.

    I can also report this. 30 years ago I was divorced from my Israeli wife. Eventually I converted to Christianity but she continues to live as a Hasidic Jewess. She remarried and our three children were raised in a strictly observant Hasidic culture. They are all married now with their own children in Israel. They have never communicated with me, especially following my baptism, and I only hear occasional news via my parents with whom they all maintain a good relationship.

    Recently I received a frantic phone call that these three children all are trying to obtain American passports for their children, my biological grandchildren whom I have never met and whose names I do not even know. They were demanding from me various forms of paperwork so they can go to the American officials in Israel and try to finagle passports. My father, who conveyed all of this to me, could not say if they plan to leave Israel or not. But given what is written in this article their request suddenly makes a lot more sense to me.

    I can just imagine all of the Jewish and Christian Zionists in America suddenly pleading on behalf of “Israeli Jewish refugees” to resettle them in this country and save them from the specter of Palestinian terrorism. For 70 years they haven’t cared about the annihilation of the Palestinians but now they’re going to roll out the red carpet to import millions of Israeli Jews, many of whom don’t speak English have never acquired a secular education and are incapable of working in the American economy. They will swell the welfare roles and present more voting bribes to corrupt New York State politicians. Can’t you see it coming?

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Katrinka
    , @anarchyst
    , @Druid55
  48. The picture shows two Semitic sluts and the best thing they can do is to eat each other and leave the rest of us alone in peace.

  49. @TG

    Perhaps, and here is another take. The law of nature: those in power become insolent, fat, arrogant, weak, and inevitably lose their way. Bob Simon, of CBS News, observed as much nearly twenty years ago, when he wondered in one of his reports if Israelis were still able to fight given their pre-occupation with the good life of beaches, cappuccino, and swimming pools. I have read somewhere on this website that Tel-Aviv has more gay bars than any other city in the West. We will see, indeed.

  50. gotmituns says:

    Hello Shmuel – shut it down – the goyim know…

  51. G J T says:

    “Israel” (Palestine) certainly does not belong to the Jews since they are not Israelites, and there are few things I’d love to see more than them utterly crushed and losing their main prop in the massive deception they’ve foisted upon the world. At the same time, no normal citizens of any country want them. They are literally a plague on every nation they’ve ever inhabited, and prior to about 100 years ago everyone knew this. So as a thought experiment we have a bit of a conundrum.

    I certainly have my own thoughts on the ideal way to deal with the Jewish problem, but they are not exactly practical and I’m not the fedposty type. The fact of the matter is that while literally no one wants them, they’ve had their own ethnostate for over 70 years and they’ve only made the lives of the rest of the world worse. In fact, having this ethnostate has made it even easier for them to subvert and destroy whatever nation they lay their treacherous eyes on. Still, thinking a total Palestinian victory and/or the destruction on the state of “Israel” would somehow change the world for the better is a fantasy.

    The Palestinians are just the most recent and most visible victims of Jewish supremacism, callousness, sociopathy and complete disregard for all other people. It didn’t begin with the Palestinians and it won’t end with them, even in the extremely rare event their demonic ethnostate is dealt a catastrophic and humiliating blow. Any and all victories against the state of “Israel” are inconsequential in the grand scheme of things, because the Big Lie (even bigger than The Holocaust™️ itself) will live on.

    • Agree: mark green
  52. TKK says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Israel was not defeated by Hamas. It was calculated PR to stop pummeling Gaza. It was a pullback from a “vulgar display of power”.

  53. Sarah says:

    and have them packing suitcases and returning back to their European, Russian and American origins?

    I suggest that White Americans pack their suitcases, leave the land they stole and colonized and return to Europe or Russia (huge open spaces there).

  54. This is a repetitive, almost hysterical, tsunami of words that nearly drown out the writer’s valid and valuable core message. Yes, clever Israel has finally tipped world opinion against itself, leaving its gallant legions of Western political and media propagandists without viable arguments. Yes, Israel’s rabid Zionist leadership has managed in its arrogance to shoot itself figuratively right in the head. And yes, the behavior of the 73-year-old Jewish-only state has indeed cancelled its own apartheid future in the Near East, leaving its adherents not much more than the sensible option to pack up soon for new adventures somewhere else. Too bad Taxi couldn’t find a better way to package that message.

  55. @Sarah

    Same lies different days.
    Sure. So name your price.
    How about this: all the U.S. aid plus interest gets written off.
    If you want more, hit up Rothschilds.
    Goddam freeloaders.

    • Agree: Katrinka
    • Replies: @Sarah
  56. Andreas says:

    There is no wishful thinking in this article. It is driven by a clearly substantiated optimism, as are all of Taxi’s articles.

    Palestinian rocketry has advanced. Even the most hardened Zionist true-believers cannot deny this fact.

    But even more important – and naturally overlooked because it doesn’t go ‘bang’ – is the logistical, technical and manufacturing capacity necessary to build these rockets along with the military training, discipline and command-and-control that are essential to operating these rockets effectively. These improvements also suggests an intelligence and counter-intelligence network growing in effectiveness and coordination with outside “advisors”.

    The material, organizational and operational advances of the Palestinians did not occur in a vacuum. These advances are necessarily predicated on a collective spirit of moral imperative to free themselves from Israeli oppression, a spirit that burns white hot in the heart of every Palestinian and is gaining every generation in intensity. It is also now a moral imperative increasingly shared by the rest of the world and with a new resonance that is impossible to ignore. And, most importantly of all, this spirit driven by moral imperative is exactly that which is impervious to bombs.

    This is the ascendency of Palestine.

    In response to the Palestinian will to freedom and self-determination, it is difficult to identify exactly what Israel has accomplished that could be spun as tantamount to a victory. Obviously, Israeli intelligence failed in virtually every known or inferable capacity to prevent these advances in Palestinian military capability. If Israeli intelligence could not achieve these objectives, then it begs the question of what else they do not know or cannot prevent.

    The significance that Israel did not send ground troops into Gaza cannot be underestimated. Perhaps the only credit that can be given to Israeli intelligence is that they knew it would be a death trap for an IDF that has yet to recover psychologically from its defeat by Hezbollah in 2006. Gaza is most likely one big kill zone. The calculation of Israeli planners being that what could be gained by an invasion of Gaza would not be worth the cost in dead and mutilated Israeli soldiers, not to mention another blow to the myth of Israeli invincibility.

    The IAF also achieved nothing new unless one continues to be impressed by the “precision” bombing of targets that always seems to result in mostly civilian casualties, but that over time never actually turn the situation in Israel’s favor.

    The Iron Dome seems to be holding up. But whether it can keep up with the next round of advances in rocketry, decoys, drones and electronic warfare remains to be seen.

    And what can be made of the destruction of those high-rises and the AP building?

    Did the world look in awe and wonder as the IAF valiantly defended the eternally victimized Jewish people against another onslaught of unprovoked Palestinian hatred and savagery?

    No.

    What the world saw was the spectacle of God’s Chosen People™ reduced to flicking boogers at the mirror of world opinion in a vain attempt to hide their frustration, impotence and rage. But maybe bombing journalists is what passes for chutzpah in Israel today.

    This is the descendent Israel, barely clinging to the status quo, and where victory is now defined as containment and where containment realistically means that the noose has not completely tightened around their necks just yet.

    And then there is the Hezbollah effect…

    So if there is any wishful thinking going on, it is that Israel somehow won this latest round with the Palestinians.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
    , @RobinG
  57. Sarah says:
    @Victor999

    It would not surprise me at all, if when the time comes that Israel finally takes a step too far and starts the final conflagration, she will likely be suddenly faced with many thousands of cheap Hamas missiles thrown at her until the Dome breaks, at which time the REAL missiles, the precision ones from Hezbollah and Iran come into the fight, levelling Israel’s airports, military installations, electric power plants, water supplies, filtration systems, and their cities – many, many thousands of long-range, precision missiles against which Israel can not stand.

    Israel is determined to defend its existence. It will not let this happen. Do not forget the oath of the Israeli soldier: “Massadah will never be taken again”.

    You forget the main thing: Israel has the atomic bomb😏

  58. @Sarah

    Palestine was of no interest to anyone.

    Right you are, creep …
    … well, not to Menachim Begin and Irgun/Stern Gang anyway …

    Early in the morning of Friday, April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun, headed by Menachem Begin, and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents … By noon over 100 people, half of them women and children, had been systematically murdered. Four commandos died at the hands of resisting Palestinians using old Mausers and muskets. Twenty-five male villagers were loaded into trucks, paraded through the Zakhron Yosef quarter in Jerusalem, and then taken to a stone quarry along the road between Givat Shaul and Deir Yassin and shot to death.

    https://www.deiryassin.org/mas.html

    Thanks for the opportunity to remind you, disgusting murderous ghoul, of just ONE of your exploits, which took place before the Brit Mandate ended.

    You are a foul and disgusting vampire.
    How can normal human beings deal with you creatures ?

    • Agree: Druid55
    • Replies: @Sarah
  59. Mevashir says:

    If you want to understand why the Arab countries rejected the original UN Partition Plan, imagine how white Americans would react if the UN decided the following. It would demand to partition the United States into three territories. The whites would return to the 13 original colonies. The Indians would receive all the land between the Allegheny Mountains and the Mississippi river. And the Hispanics in Mexico would get all the land west of the Mississippi.

  60. Katrinka says:
    @Mevashir

    Yes. I can see it coming. That is why I have arranged for legal residency in Panama. The U.S. is FUBAR when it comes to its slavish devotion towards Israel, God knoweth why.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  61. teo toon says:

    I used to be able to search Google for the phrase “modern Jewry is Edom” and find the quote from the Jewish encyclopedia; but they have caught on and now return the phrase “Edom is within Jewry.” Still the question remains: what part does Esau have in the blessings and promises made to Jacob? None.
    As for the Ashkenazim “Jews,” Ashkenaz is the son of Gomer who is the son of Japheth (Genesis 10:1-4). What do Japhethites have to do with Jacob. None. Even the name they give to the stolen land is stolen: the name Israel was conferred upon the Tribe of Joseph; as was the name Isaac (=Isaac’s sons=Saxons); this name referred to the North Tribes after the split of the tribes after Solomon’s death.( I write the above for all those Christians who declare they only read the New Testament while ignoring the Old. Logically they should ignore any of Jesus’ or the apostles’ quotes or paraphrases from the Old Testament.)

    As for those Christians who think, no believe, that the ten Northern Tribes of Israel no longer exist; go back to the Old Testament you so righteously ignore and read Genesis 49-27; these speak of the presence of the tribes at the end times: they still exist. God’s promises still stand for them.

    All of them are interlopers and thieves; that’s putting it mildly. They have claimed for themselves the land which is God’s property and for His people: both the tribes Judah and Israel and the Resurrected Christian saints (Spiritual Israel).

    • Replies: @Tom Ratliff
  62. anarchyst says:
    @Mevashir

    Kiryas Joel, a jews-only community in New York comes to mind…with the majority of jewish residents collecting “public assistance” while flouting ALL U S laws regarding racial discrimination and “fair housing” statutes. In fact, the “public schools” are for jews-only.
    Israeli jews would fit right in…

  63. Smith says:

    That’s the hottest drawing of a woman in burqua I’ve ever seen.

    • LOL: TKK
  64. From the decisive language to the cold takes, I find it sad that anyone could take this guy seriously.

  65. @Art

    As of now there’s Florida. Spain and Portugal are making amends for their “inquisitions” by issuing passports for anyone claiming to be a Sephardic Jew. The biggest problem the Israeli Jews have is their brethren have been sucking life out Gentile country with bad banking and mass immigration . If by some chance the Palestinians manage to win, they are indeed running out of nice goy places to stick their fangs in and their butts on.

  66. @Mevashir

    Opinion polls have done everyone into politics a disservice. The cost of offering your “support” on a poll is zero; therefore a poll measures “support” in the same way that free lottery tickets would measure people’s propensity to gamble.

  67. @Sarah

    Honey, recent ancient artifacts and remains found here suggest we were here first in the Americas until those Asian invaders colonized us. Well …more like did genocide to our ancient relatives.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  68. Che Guava says:

    Someone else may have already said this, but as a view from afar, why, by the same token, can”t Muslim and other settler invaders of Europe get the fuck out?

    It is the same kind of thing as pre-1948 Jewish settlement in Palestine. Only difference is some Brits and Germans drove that.

    Jews drive the invasion of Europe.

    I never want to visit anywhere to the west of eastern and central Europe, most Japanese the same now, though a friend did visit Portugal before coronamania, had a good time.

    Everywhere else, too dangerous, too settler and criminal invaded.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Che Guava
  69. Mevashir says:
    @Katrinka

    A relative from South Africa recently moved to Panama after waiting 2 years to be able to leave her ANC wrecked homeland. Check this out:

    • Replies: @Avery
  70. Mevashir says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Me thinks you are LDS right? You should at least be honest enough to admit Mormons are arch-Zionists!

    Check this out to learn about the bogus nature of your religion: https://coldcasechristianity.com/tag/mormonism/

    • Agree: Alfred Muscaria
  71. Mevashir says:
    @Che Guava

    The Muslims have invaded Europe for the same reason the Hispanics have invaded America. Because the capitalists want them as a source of cheap labor, work without benefits or unions etc. Pretty obvious isn’t it?

    It does humor me that while Muslims are always proclaiming the superiority of their religion they’re so eager to scamper away from their Middle Eastern Muslim homelands and flee to the West!

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  72. AndrewR says:
    @Victor999

    The Jews are happy to destroy the world before they admit that goyim are people. If Iran and Hezbollah threaten the existence of Israel then Israel will start nuking whomever.

  73. @J

    J writes:

    ‘Palestinian victory? You find them begging for charity all over the world, while Israelis are scuba diving in Seychelles.’

    They should make the most of their 15 minutes of sunshine.

    Because soon enough, the Zio-usurpers will be choking on their illicitly obtained blood money.

  74. AaronB says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It is the creation of a collective fantasy. A noted feature of the Middle Eastern mind, and especially the Muslim, is to retreat into fantasy when reality becomes too painful.

    They did this in 48 and 67 too. It always ends in tragedy for them.

    To be fair, large parts of the Arab/Muslim world seem to be breaking away from this dysfunctional pattern.

    I have noticed recently, that many anti-Israel commenters, led by AnonStarter, are urging people to ignore and not engage anyone who disagrees with them, because it interferes with the creation of a collective fantasy, which requires self-hypnosis.

    Refusing to engage the Israelis has also been a classic Arab strategy, almost as if they can make them not exist by pretending they don’t.

    The Arab MO from the beginning of this conflict has been – don’t compromise and make maximalist demands, then retreat into collective fantasy of imminent victory when reality is too painful, and refuse to engage with your adversary or even acknowledge his existence.

    This is, of course, a recipe for defeat after defeat.

    The painful process of self-reckoning, crucial to success, and the ability to compromise and be realistic, is a sign of a healthy culture. A culture in decline, does not have the strength to do this anymore.

    On the positive side, large parts of the Arab and Muslim world, have moved past this dysfunctional pattern.

    What I say is – let these poor people have their party. Don’t crash it too much. Let them have their collective fantasy. It may seem sad, but it is probably healthy. People need to vent. People also need fiction and the creation of make believe worlds, often, to cope with reality.

    Eventually, they come around, or death brings them comfort in the end anyways.

  75. anonymous[970] • Disclaimer says:

    The resolution below explains Nasrallah’s matter-of-fact announcement, “Israel is going to end soon.”

    https://hrcmeetings.ohchr.org/HRCSessions/SpecialSessions/30session/Documents/A_HRC_S-30_L_1%20ORAL%20REVISION%20as%20received.docx

    Coming into conformity with human rights law is the end of Jew supremacist Israel. IHL will ultimately force US compliance with its Leahy Law, and the Zionazi genocidaires will end up throwing little rocks at 150,000 resistance missiles.

  76. Right under the very noses of the bulky Israeli military and its lauded hi-tech Intel, the Palestinian Resistance has managed to arm itself in a significant way – and indeed, it continues to improve its arsenal, undetected.

    American traitor/Israeli spy jonathan pollard probably sold the tech to the ‘Stinians.

  77. Che Guava says:
    @Che Guava

    I must add, Chinese are much the same, many like to visit the U.S.A. to take advantage of the ridiculous anchor-baby system there, but most don’t want to go to any place in western Europe, except in large, well-protected tour groups.

    Thanks mainly to the Moslem settler-invaders, numbers of, and spending by, Chinese tourists in Europe had already precipitously declined well before coronamania.

    Statistics on this are easy to find.

  78. anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sarah

    How disgusting.

    • Replies: @Sarah
  79. Victor999 says:
    @Sarah

    And what would they do with an atomic bomb? Certainly, they could not use it locally – they would end up a glazed over field. Short of that, however, they can do very little strategically. They are surrounded on all sides by enemies – enemies no longer of 50s and 60s variety that have outdated, obsolete equipment, but rather enemies that have some of the latest technology, military training, hardened war experience and modern equipment (esp precision, long-range missiles). Israel is no longer invulnerable. Its army has never been in a real war, being used primarily against unarmed men, women and children. And it doesn’t have the population to support a full-blown war against multiple states.

    The first step Israel needs to take to deal with this matter is to rid itself of the self-congratulatory, arrogant hubris it possesses and recognise that reality is such that it needs to make compromises if it is to survive.

    • Replies: @Sulu
  80. @Reg Cæsar

    European Jews are European.
    It is a myth that any people on earth remain the same people after 2000 years.

    Anti semitism is a western problen; not an Arab problem.

  81. @AaronB

    The only “MO” we should be concerned with is the zionist MO — which is establishing an apartheid regime in Palestine. Will it collapse of its own internal contradictions?

  82. Victor999 says:
    @AaronB

    The painful process of self-reckoning, crucial to success, and the ability to compromise and be realistic, is a sign of a healthy culture. A culture in decline, does not have the strength to do this anymore.

    Seems an accurate description of Israel today, except that they have never had the strength to compromise because to them to compromise is always the first step towards giving up the idea of a Jewish state.

  83. Ron T, says:

    I do not see where this optimism is coming from – this amounts to being delusional. A few thousands militia members can possibly inflict some damage but they cannot liberate Palestine. Israel in fact yearns for old school wars on multiple fronts – that has been its main propaganda ploy in its early years – the poor little “democratic” Israel surrounded by blood thirsty savages is a trope that has many ears in western colonial discourse and will gain it support once again. With US media unanimously declaring an “impending Holocaust”, the US president will have no choice but to send American troops to die for Israel, not to mention the view, held by political elites, of Israel as an American military base.

    Moreover, I stipulate that even in the remote case when liberation forces are on the cusp of winning, they will be stabbed in the back by fellow Arabs, as Hezbollah has painfully experienced. With a divided Arab world, ruled by corrupt dictators who receive their orders from Washington, the Arab world will continue to be fragmented and weak and Arab dictators will continue normalizing and carrying on business as usual with the apartheid state, something that apartheid South Africa could only dream of.

    The Arabs’ only chance to liberate Palestine is to first liberate itself from all US supported dictators through popular revolutions, then to form a federation of Arab states with a central federal government, modeled after the United States. Since such unification is extremely unlikely, the Arab world will remain weak, mentally and militarily defeated and the apartheid state will continue to thrive and expand in their midst.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  84. @AaronB

    My friend’s client complains to her every week about how his girlfriend isn’t answering his phone calls. He always says “despite this, she is very loving” and they “have a great connection”.

    The client cannot be shaken out of that delusion, even while, in practical terms, he sacrifices all alternatives.

    The fact underlying this sad situation is that “his girlfriend ” lives in the same city and hasn’t seen him in over a year. She only replies to a few messages. It is a complete fantasy.

    My friend wants to slap him and wake him up, but she recognises that he wouldn’t obsess over this delusion if he felt like he had a choice. The alternative, to confront himself, is too terrifying for him. He used to torture baby animals as a child, while under the care of a devouring mother…

    As scary and evil as they paint the Israelis, so much worse must be the image of themselves they hold, that they cannot bare to look at. I am glad that competence and such psychological immaturity rarely go together.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  85. anon[312] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    What is their origin again?

    By the way Tzipi Livni , daughter of a terrorist, at NYT — https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/27/opinion/israel-palestinians-two-state-solution.html —might quote you with thanks for your service .

  86. Kirt says:

    I’m certainly sympathetic to the problems of the Palestinians but this triumphalist rant is a fantasy. Simply because Hamas landed a few rockets on Israel and reduced the body count ratio from something like 200 to 1 down to 20 to 1 does not mean that they and their allies are about to drive the Zionists into the sea or back to Europe and America. The Anglo-Zionist alliance/empire is the world’s premier nuclear power with an established record of nuking civilians who had no nukes themselves and no means of defense. Do you think they deem Arab and Iranian lives as mattering more than Japanese lives? In a desperate situation, the Israelis openly proclaim they would use the “Samson option” and commit nuclear suicide to take as many enemies with them as possible. I sympathize with the Palestinians and do what I can to help them, but it’s doing them a grave disservice to encourage them to go to war again by promising them a victory which the war-mongers cannot possibly deliver.

  87. @Alfred

    “The repeated references to Apartheid and South Africa show a total misunderstanding by Taxi of the history of Southern Africa. A total reliance on the MSM nonsense of the West. ”

    Thank you, Alfred, for this accurate remark. The author apparently has not a clue about South Africa.

    • Replies: @Capetonian
  88. Mevashir says:

    Did you know that Kiryas Yoel is Satmar Hassidic, which has always been anti-Zionist? Naturay Karta come out of them.

    Kiryas Yoel means “Joel’s Village” and is named after the first Satmar rebbe to come to the US, who was named Yoel Teitelbaum. Ironically he (along with 1600 of his family and friends) was ransomed from a Nazi deportation train to Auschwitz by the Zionists! And he reciprocated with a lifelong hatred for Zionism. It’s an amazing story — you should try googling it:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Teitelbaum
    https://rabbidunner.com/the-flawed-road-to-perfection/
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/on-quest-to-clear-kasztner-historian-shocked-to-prove-nazi-collaboration/amp/

    Satmar is named for the city in Hungary where they originated. It actually stands for Saint Mary, another irony given the hatred of Orthodox Jews for Christianity and particularly Catholicism!

    I believe Mein Kampf speaks very disparagingly of the Hassidics in Vienna. That may be why Hitler supported the Transfer Agreement to move them to the Middle East.

    Seems we are coming full circle all over again with the “Jewish Question.”

    • Replies: @Anne Lid
  89. It would not surprise me at all, if when the time comes that Israel finally takes a step too far and starts the final conflagration, she will likely be suddenly faced with many thousands of cheap Hamas missiles thrown at her until the Dome breaks, at which time the REAL missiles, the precision ones from Hezbollah and Iran come into the fight, leveling Israel’s airports, military installations, electric power plants, water supplies, filtration systems, and their cities – many, many thousands of long-range, precision missiles against which Israel can not stand.

    This indeed could happen. Do you think that Israel has not war gamed this scenario out. If there is a 3 front attack on Israel. The superior air force of Israel will turn Beirut into a pancake mix, Hamas will be flattened, and Iran will be bombed. The human casualties will be in the millions. To what end? There will be noone left to take over Israel. like none. Israel will do it no problem. The Lebanese people have warned Hezbollah Hezbollah does not represent the Lebanon, and the people do not want to attack Israel and be killed. The Iranians have warned the Mullahs. It would be an end of the Resistance. If there was an all out attack on Israel, millions of Palestinians would die as well. You are talking about a dooms day scenario like only a fundamentalist Jihadist could conjure up. Death and destruction everywhere. The Jihadist dream. It would not be the end of Israel it would be the end of the ME.

    The world will hold Hezbollah and Iran, and Hamas responsible and Israel will still survive. It will be the end of the resistance.

    If I were a Palestinian I would look to overthrow the illegal King of Jordan and declare Jordan the Palestinian state. There exist no bigger colonial state than Jordan. The Hashemites are from Saudi Arabia, total colonialist. Jordan was originally part of the Palestinian mandate, it is full of mostly Palestinians, who cannot even vote. Talk about apartheid. Why are the Hashemites running Jordan? Everyone knows what a fake state Jordan is. It was created by the Europeans, not by the Arabs.

    That may be too logical for a Jihadist to figure out because this battle was never for a Palestinian state. Never until 1967. This fight is about the supremacy of Islam over the Jews. A Palestinian state could have been figured out years ago. Before 1967 there was a Palestinian state, and the Arabs had Jerusalem. Why were they attacking Israel in that war? Death to the Jews means death to everyone. Wake up and smell the coffee.

    • Replies: @Hess
  90. Realist says:

    From Here On, Palestine Calls the Shots

    Sadly…only in your dreams.

  91. @Art

    I disagree that Israeli war criminals and human rights abusers should be allowed to escape disguised as refugees, tourists, whatever when Israel falls. Even dual nationals with rights of abode elsewhere should be processed and punished for their crimes against the Palestinians. Since when is it right for criminals to get away with their crimes? They should be punished, and most severely! But knowing the world most will probably get away with their crimes.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  92. AaronB says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    As scary and evil as they paint the Israelis, so much worse must be the image of themselves they hold, that they cannot bare to look at. I am glad that competence and such psychological immaturity rarely go together.

    Competence cannot go together with this kind of psychological immaturity. Competence comes from a certain level of healthy detachment, which allows one to see oneself and others clearly, as well as the possibilities and limitations of ones particular situation.

    As regards their vision of the Israelis and their own self-image, it is an interesting case. On the one hand, they depict Israelis as completely evil and morally wrong. But interestingly, their fantasies of victory are not fantasies of a moral reckoning – but fantasies of competence and toughness.

    See the title and the picture in this post. In their victory fantasy, they are the ones with the guns, they are the tough ones, the dominant ones, the competent ones, the superior ones, who crush and decimate their enemies. The female Israeli soldier has her face blotted out. The Muslim woman has taken her gun.

    It is not a fantasy of morality triumphing and ushering in a period of justice and peace for all, Arabs and Jews alike. It is a victory fantasy pure and simple, of crushing ones enemies and being dominant.

    In a very naive way, their fantasies betray what they really want, and the depiction of Israel as completely morally evil and themselves as pure serves the specific function of dehumanizing an enemy so it can be crushed and obliterated without conscience.

    In other words, the depiction of Israel as wholly morally evil is not used to craft a higher, more inclusive vision of peace and justice for all, but is used rather as a dehumanizing strategy in order to more easily crush ones enemies.

    Even morality, in their hands, comes to represent it’s opposite.

    • Agree: Triteleia Laxa
    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Marckus
    , @Colin Wright
  93. @Reg Cæsar

    Most Jews are Ashkenazis, therefore, they are Europeans. A considerable number of them moved from the Middle East into the Roman Empire until there were more of them outside the Middle East than in it. While in Europe, they intermingled with the local population, some becoming Christians along the way. Future waves of Jews came into Europe from the Khazarian Empire. This again intermingled with the people already living there, both Jewish and otherwise. Generally, when a non-Jewish person married a Jewish person, the non-Jewish adopted the religion of the Jewish faith. While the Khazarian influence is quite substantial, this is not due to their numbers but to the homogeneous qualities of their traditions.

    The Palestinian Arabs are the real descendants of the ancient Jews. From around the fourth century AD onwards to the Muslim invasions, the late Roman and Byzantine Empires ruthlessly tried to control the Middle East and North Africa, bringing about numerous rebellions until one was successful, a matter that Mohamed took advantage of with millions of Jews and Christians of the period readily becoming Muslims since, to the average peasant of those days, there was little difference between all of the branches of the Middle Eastern Monotheistic Religious Tradition. After all, they could not read or write, they carried their traditions orally, the religious disputes and difference being primarily a curiosity of the less than one percent of the population that had any meaningful education.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  94. @Sarah

    Do you really think these ancient Hasbara talking points really work on UNZ, Shlomo? Remember, you stole not only the land from the Palestinians, you’re also stealing water from the Sirians and money from US as well.

  95. from the writers pen to God’s ear.. however, it’s easier said than done. I am hopeful and i do think there’s been a change in world wide attitude.. much more blood will be spilled in the future.

    I sincerely hope so… i hope the American people come to their senses and to the realization that Israel is no friend of the US..

  96. Anon[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfred

    You need to take this silly argument of yours to Mandela and Tutu, who both declared that ‘a worse Apartheid’ exists in israel than the one in old S. Africa.

    THAT’S NOT MSM! That’s two of the world’s most prominent authorities on the Apartheid system.

    You’re just being a smartarse, through and through. Upmanship much?

    And btw, whether the land patch was Zulu or Shmulu makes no difference. The fact of the matter is that ‘white’ people took African land, and you’re defending this?

    I’ve met quite a few S. African activists who work the Palestine beat and they would laugh in your face at your absurdist non-argument. They have lived under Apartheid and I think they know Apartheid when they see it better than you and your silly, sour-grape proposition.

    People who deny that Apartheid exists in israel are Apartheid lovers themselves.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  97. AaronB says:
    @AaronB

    Oh god, I did not even notice the dog collar and chain on the female Israeli soldier lol.

    So that is their victory fantasy. Not a higher vision of justice and peace for Jews and Arabs alike, but a vision of humiliating and enslaving ones enemy.

    And the depiction of Israel as completely morally evil, is not used as contrast to develop a higher vision of love and peace and justice for all, but to dehumanize Israelis so they can be enslaved.

    Face palm. They really are their worst enemy.

    • LOL: Triteleia Laxa
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Colin Wright
  98. Mevashir says:
    @Ron T,

    Israelis have lost their fighting spirit and their collective sense of sacrifice. The fact that 100,000 Israelis have already gone to Dubai on shopping sprees while the vast bulk of their countrymen are languishing under coronavirus restrictions and economic calamity speaks volumes about the growing decadence of Israeli society. The Likud introduced right wing Milton Friedman style economics which has exacerbated inequality individualism and selfishness. Most Israelis live with enormous levels of debt. There is huge dissatisfaction and unhappiness and strife between different elements of Israeli Jewish society. The Israelis aren’t able or willing to sacrifice anymore. They all seek the good life as their per capita GDP climbs past that of their sucker benefactor the United States.

    I would put my money on Iran and it’s coalition partners. The US Israel and all of their Arab cronies are all sinking under the weight of decadence inequality economic corruption and political despotism. They are dying but partying hard the way people do before the lights go out.

  99. WP says:
    @Sarah

    Q. You want to drive us out of our country, that’s fine, that’s your opinion, but what country do you give us in exchange?

    A. Gehenna

    • Replies: @Sarah
  100. A123 says:
    @AaronB

    I have noticed recently, that many anti-Israel commenters, led by AnonStarter, are urging people to ignore and not engage anyone who disagrees with them, because it interferes with the creation of a collective fantasy, which requires self-hypnosis.

    Refusing to engage the Israelis has also been a classic Arab strategy, almost as if they can make them not exist by pretending they don’t.

    You are correct. Willing self deception is a serious problem.

    Hamas was groveling and begging for a ceasefire a few days ago: (1)

    Hamas Seeking a Way Out: Shortage in Rockets, Loss of Assets, Launching Capabilities Hindered

    The Hamas terror organization is licking its wounds and is seeking a way to end the IDF’s Operation Guardian of the Walls against its infrastructure after incurring significant damage from the Israeli airstrikes.

    A source from the Gaza Strip told TPS Wednesday night that Hamas is seeking a ceasefire with Israel as soon as possible, and this is the growing tendency in the ranks of the Hamas leadership in Gaza.

    Hamas has been suffering for the past day from a shortage of long-range missiles and from significant damage to its ability to launch rockets at Israel, following the Israeli Air Force’s (IAF) damage to its launch pads and weapons warehouses.

    Hamas is also aware of the serious damage to its senior ranks over the past 24 hours and is troubled by the loss of important infrastructure and key members of its organization.

    The IDF carried several successful strikes and eliminated several senior Hamas commanders, significantly crippling Hamas’ so-called General Staff.

    “Hamas is surprised that Israel was not deterred by its threats to hit Ashkelon and continued to hit buildings [Hamas targets in Gaza], which in the eyes of Hamas, led to a snowball of damage,” the source said.

    Hamas gambled on the current round of violence being intense but short and was surprised by the IDF’s decision to expand the scope of its attacks.

    It should be noted that this report corresponds with the IDF Spokesman’s briefings and even with reports in the Arab media about Hamas’ desire for an immediate ceasefire.

    The source added that Hamas is in contact with the Qatari leadership so that it can act on its behalf to achieve a ceasefire.

    “Hamas now understands that Israel may paralyze its governmental capabilities and elements in its leadership are already expressing the shock that is expected of the residents of the Gaza Strip who will soon discover the extent of the destruction,” he said.

    Hamas understands that in the coming years there is no one who will agree to finance the reconstruction of Gaza and there are even statements about the need to form a unity government with Mahmoud Abbas in order to enjoy foreign funding for the reconstruction of the Gaza Strip.

    The IDF finally stopped, because they ran out of Hamas targets to strike. (2)

    After years of close monitoring, the military’s intelligence arm expresses satisfaction with severe blows delivered to Hamas’ strategic capabilities, including production of rockets and other advanced armaments

    Military Intelligence Directorate officials said on Thursday that the IDF had almost depleted its target bank within the Gaza Strip as the current round of fighting with Palestinian terrorist groups may be nearing its closure.

    We’ve eliminated senior Hamas engineers, experts in rocket production and other types of armaments,” the officer said. “These are sources of knowledge that otherwise don’t exist in the Gaza. It’s also hard to find a replacement for them as opposed to senior field commanders that are eliminated. We’re talking about research and development experts that are unique to a para-military guerilla group that specializes in fighting in densely built places such as Gaza.”

    As a matter of objective fact Hamas lost, and lost badly. As long as advocates for violent Islam refuse to admit defeat after defeat after defeat, all they can do is continue to die for yet another defeat…. It is pointless.

    Instead of losing *another* generation to false hope and futile efforts to steal land from Palestinian Jews — Would it not be better for the Muslim side to consider a new & realistic strategy?

    PEACE 😇

    “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” (George Santayana)

    “The definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing over and over, and then expecting different results.” (Albert Einstein)
    _________

    (1) https://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye-on-palestine/hamas/hamas-seeking-a-way-out-shortage-in-rockets-loss-of-assets-launching-capabilities-hindered/2021/05/13/

    (2) https://www.ynetnews.com/article/ryDnE27tO

    • Replies: @Hess
  101. DaveE says:
    @Sarah

    I love it when Jews expose to world, with comments like this, what vile, satanic filth they are. This was exactly the point of this piece – the cat is out of the bag and everyone sees zionism / judaism and its evil adherents for exactly who / what they are.

    If you wanna nuke yourselves along with your neighbors, go ahead, we won’t cry – but you’re too far gone to care, I’m sure.

    Just keep talking, (((Sarah))). You’re doing us Goyim a tremendous service.

    • Replies: @Sarah
  102. Mevashir says:
    @Kirt

    The Samson option is a bluff. Israelis are hedonists like their Patron Trump. When the fit hits the shan their political military and intelligence leadership will all flee to their foreign sanctuaries and their overseas bank accounts and leave the rest of the people behind to be slaughtered by justifiably outraged Arab mobs.

    • Replies: @Kirt
  103. @Kirt

    The Anglo-Zionist alliance/empire is the world’s premier nuclear power with an established record of nuking civilians who had no nukes themselves and no means of defense.

    I see no evidence that the US nuclear arsenal has been maintained if it ever worked at all. With our current rulers everything turns into a boondoggle like the F-35. They just can’t help themselves. Tritium has a half life of 12.3 years for example. Nukes are not shelf stable.

  104. Haaretz published on its front page (and then apologized for it) photographs of 67 Palestinian children killed in the fighting.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/haaretz-publisher-apologizes-for-papers-removal-of-israelis-from-story-on-kids-killed-in-gaza-fighting/

    The Haaretz story is not on the first page of google search for (Haaretz this is the price of war) from my ISP. Maybe they also took the story down?

  105. A123 says:

    The Muslims occupying Judea & Samaria are the true practitioners of Apartheid.

    Fatah and Hamas leadership care about maintaining their personal power. They create these confrontations to distract from their own incompetence. There is no justification for this latest round of terrorist aggression: (1)

    Hamas Rocket Attacks Are Based on a Lie

    Hamas has orchestrated unrest — an unrest that appears to be escalating toward war — because the Palestinians are likely to lose their legal fight, and for good reasons. … the eviction of squatters who refuse to pay rent hardly qualifies as a violation of basic human rights, much less an act of “ethnic cleansing.”
    _____

    The Sephardi Community Council and the (Ashkenazi) General Council of the Congregation of Israel — purchased the land in 1876, more than 70 years before the foundation of the State of Israel.

    In 1948, the Transjordanian Arab Legion ordered residents of the Nahalat Shimon and Shimon Hatzadik neighborhoods to leave their homes for the majority Jewish western half of Jerusalem. The legion expelled Jews from the areas it conquered. The residents duly fled their homes.

    In 1956, the government of Jordan, in cooperation with the United Nations Relief Works Association (UNRWA), arranged for the housing of 28 Palestinian refugee families in the area of the abandoned homes in the Shimon Hatzadik neighborhood. Jordan built new apartments and the families leased the homes, paying a nominal rent.

    The Jewish trusts that purchased the land back in 1876 requested the areas be returned to them. In 1972, Israel accepted their claims, and ownership of the disputed area was transferred to the trusts in the Land Registry.

    [Fatah and Hamas leaders] expect Israel’s Supreme Court to acknowledge Nahalat Shimon International’s claim to the land and to evict the families who refuse to pay rent. Hamas may have encouraged the riots, sparking the cycle of violence that has brought Israel and Palestine to the brink of war, in order to prevent this final resolution.

    Fatah and Hamas are fighting for ethnic cleansing and apartheid, performed by Jordan in 1948. Not only is their behaviour immoral, it is also futile. Colonial Islam is not going to be able to keep land stolen from native Palestinian Jews.

    (1) https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/05/15/the-hamas-rocket-attacks-are-based-on-a-lie-n1447193

     

    • LOL: Alfred Muscaria
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  106. @gleongelpi

    Aren’t the Palestinians Arab?

    The history of the Arabs begins in the mid-ninth century BC, which is the earliest known attestation of the Old Arabic language. The Arabs appear to have been under the vassalage of the Neo-Babylonian Empire; they went from the Arabian Peninsula to Mauritania.[1] Original Arabic tribes originated in what is now Hejaz and Yemen and then spread to levant to establish what is known the Ghassanid and Lakhmid kingdoms, in which they began to appear in the southern Syrian Desert from the mid-third century AD onward, during the mid to later stages of the Roman and Sasanian empires.[2] Tradition holds that Arabs descend from Ishmael, the son of Abraham.[3] The Syrian Desert is the home of the first attested “Arab” groups,[4][5] as well other Arab groups that spread in the land and existed for millennia.[6]

  107. Marckus says:

    Its the old story. We see it here on this site every day. The Chinese trolls love China but as superior people have fled China to live in and get their babies in Harlem and other US cities with the white sub humans. For some collecting bottles and cans on 125th Street is an elegant lifestyle compared to what they abandoned and fled in Slopelandia.

    Same with the Moslems. Allah is great, Mohammed is the one and only prophet, their religion is superior, the west is decadent and whites are the sleaze of society. Hold the beer though, they risk their lives on rubber tubes to flee all this superiority and dwell among the “scum” doing all they can to recreate in Europe and the West, the shit holes they fled. At the same time, in these new inferior lands they line up for their free housing, clothing, food and monthly stipend. Their own multi billionaire Sheiks care not one whit about them and consider them all camel shit glad they have left for distant lands. These Moslem countries, without their oil, would disintegrate into sand dunes and nomad tents. They make and export little else, dates perhaps !? The oil money must buy most of the goods and services from the trash of the west else it is back to the stone age. All this is a source of endless amusement.

    As these shiftless nomads move to Europe, Jews move out of Europe and back to Israel. In the US the Tribe has subverted and hijacked the entire system of governance, media and finance. No Moslem or member of any other religion in the US can be elected unless Schlomo gives his approval. Well, one can argue “Marckus, I disagree, what about the Squad”. To this I reply my argument also applies. To my cynical mind the squad probably exists as a smoke screen, a “look folks, you can see if there were not free and fair elections these Mohammedans and Anti Semites would never be elected”. Bullshit ! The squad pays homage to the Jews, they are given some leeway but when they step out of line, like naughty children they are called into the synagogue for a parent / child chat. The day they become too uppity rest assured they will be removed !

    Europe and the West neither needs nor wants either of these 2 peoples. Worse yet no Moslem country wants their own Palestinians. They are pawns and dupes to be used and discarded as required.

    That the Palestinians are in control is sheer drivel. The Jews have all Moslems under control. Where the dove has flown the serpent slithers into position. Many Arab nations have or will come to the realization that the MUST deal with the Jews, one way or the other, diplomatically or on the battlefield. In both scenarios the Arabs have been deficient, incompetent and useless.

    One day they may prevail but I very much doubt this. As I have said before a wounded animal or one fighting for survival is a dangerous beast. The day when an Arab army is on the point of defeating Israel is the day said army is going to become silicone. No two ways about it !

    In the meantime the Palestinians are useful tools for everyone including the Jews and the international community. They keep a tense situation tense and these flareups from time to time remind the Israeli population that they are to be hated and that in any final showdown there will be no quarter asked or given. No side wins so they remain as they are and where they are. Allah and the Hebrew gods be praised.

    I dont have any use for either of them. However my shekels are on the Jews and anyone who thinks the Palestinians are a worthwhile group is welcome to trot down to immigration and sponsor a family.

    Put your money where your mouth is and lose it, because the Palestinians calling the shots and rolling the nickels is claptrap.

    • Thanks: TKK
  108. Marckus says:
    @AaronB

    A good analysis, solid, cold, methodical, logical. Like it or not and some on this site wont, this IS the way it is.

    It is unfortunate that most really see the world as they wish it to be rather than the way it IS.

    Moslems in particular drink their own poison and wait for the other guy to die !

    • Thanks: AaronB
  109. Theone says:
    @Nostradamus

    Europe is a colony of Israel

  110. @CelestiaQuesta

    Were I a member of this ‘elite globalist’ group i don’t feel it is in their best interest to disarm the populations. I’d rather a quick death to being dragged behind laughing Deplorables in their RAM 2500, or drawn and quatered on ESPN. Even a Prius can slowly drag one at 9 miles an hour for a long time.
    “‘Nother pothole comin up! Yee hawww!!”

  111. Kirt says:
    @Mevashir

    Samson himself wasn’t bluffing and he was certainly a hedonist. Take away a hedonist’s pleasures and what does he have left but the momentary pleasure of revenge?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  112. @Reg Cæsar

    Ashkenazi Jews — or as my Sephardic friend calls them, Euro-Jews — typically have both substantial European and substantial Semitic genetic background. Genetic Literacy Project ran an article by Jon Entine on this about 7 years ago.

    Entine discussed genetic-testing studies that found ashkenazim were 40% Italian, on average, through the maternal lines, and almost entirely Semitic through the paternal lines.

    This 2013 Science article reports that 80% of tested Ashkenazis’ mtDNA originated in Western Europe — several thousand years ago.
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy

    If further confirmed, this would mean that most Ashkenazis are mostly European. (Almost all Jews in the USA, and half in Israel, are Ashkenazim.)

    Would be interested to see studies on the Slavic and Germanic genetic inheritance of Ashkenazim.

    • Replies: @Bert
  113. So, if Christian Zionists still think Israel is “blessed” (after Israel couldn’t even beat Hezbollah in 2006, can’t even defeat rock (and rocket) throwing Palestinians for the last 50 years or so, and has more Covid “vaccine” deaths and injuries than any other nation) instead of cursed by God, then they need to re-read John 2:21-22 regarding Jesus Christ-hating Israel: “He who hath not the Son hath not the Father….”

  114. Actually, I really do not think Palestinians are “calling the shots.” Not when the family (and their side-kicks) that rules the world at Satan’s behest (See Ephesians 6:12 about this), namely, the Rothschilds, own a great deal of Israel proper, land-wise and otherwise….so that, if the Rothschilds own Israel, and Satan owns the world (Ephesians 6:12), then I’d say Israel still calls the shots here. Oh, and wasn’t Hamas originally founded and funded by Israel as a counterweight to Arafat’s PLO? Ron Paul and others have proven this…. besides, Palestinian leadership makes Nutty Yahoo and the rest of Israel’s leaders look competent…. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

  115. I dont have any use for either of them. However my shekels are on the Jews and anyone who thinks the Palestinians are a worthwhile group is welcome to trot down to immigration and sponsor a family.

    Put your money where your mouth is and lose it, because the Palestinians calling the shots and rolling the nickels is claptrap.

    I would swap Palestinians for US Jews no problem. They can have Eastern Michigan, Flint and Detroit as a homeland. I’m sure they can manage better than whites have in the last 50 years. As for Palestinians calling the shots in reality Iran has been waiting very patiently for their moment. Iran knows very well that Israel would genocide every last Iranian given the chance. Their only hope for survival is to neutralize Israel in the region.

  116. Theone says:
    @Priss Factor

    The topic is about IsisRael and Palestine. Nothing to do with US,at best USSA is Isisrael attack dog.

  117. Mevashir says:
    @AaronB

    AB: The attitude of the Palestinians to the Israelis is the same as that of Jews to Germans. Although only 30% of Germans were members of the Nazi party, to this day all Germans are castigated and penalized for the Nazi era. You should consider that the Palestinians are simply paying you back for your own haughtiness intransigence and cruelty.

    Zionism has never deemed the Palestinians as equal partners but at best as groveling recipients of Jewish charity and paternalism and at worst as suffers of outrageous Israeli cruelty and abuse.

    More and more it seems to me the difference between a Zionist and a Nazi is the Zionist narcissistically makes you apologize for “forcing” him to kill you while the Nazi kills you without pretense or compunction. I would say the Nazi is more honest!

    • Replies: @AaronB
  118. Theone says:
    @Sarah

    Ok,but we are bringing back our buildings,infrastructure and society back,while the native Americans go back to their old warring ways between themselves(also you will need to convince african americans to go back to africa….)

    • Replies: @TKK
  119. @Commentator Mike

    They know how to make money. Take it at face value. Money talks.

    The fools on this website have been conned into thinking Communism is about to take over but in reality we live in an uber-neo liberal post-Thatcherite & post-Reagan world where nothing matters but money.

    Also, most of them are smart enough to obtain work & be productive citizens.

    The white Supremacist with the record for possession of methamphetamine who was born in the UK Council house or Indiana trailer park who has no money may be vilified, but they will find ways to get employment.

    Most are also educated. They make calculated decisions. They don’t get pregnant at 15, their daughter does not run off at age 13 with a Pakistani heroin dealer who grooms them, the fathers support the children, both parents usually have some sort of skilled occupation or white-collar trade.

    So they’ll move to Belgravia or Mayfair or Long Island.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  120. @Sarah

    Israel sits on stolen land. Any improvements done to that land should revert to the rightful owners. No legal system allows the thief to retain stolen property, except for Israel.

    The British had no right to hand the land over to the terrorists in the Haganah, Irgun and the Stern Gang. Those organizations were the original terrorists in the Middle East and supplied some of the original ‘leaders’ of that illegitimate country.

    Although Israel has been around for many decades, it’s time is running out. As the US economy worsens, less and less aid will find its way to Israel. Eventually, the US administration will cut Israel loose because the emphasis is shifting toward Asia. Russia and China are making the ME harder for the US to control and I believe the US has already decided to give up their regime change operations in the area.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @A123
  121. Che Guava says:
    @Mevashir

    From my reading, early or only first generations, Turks in Germany, who should all have been sent back, that was a clause in their contracts, Maghrebites in France, Pakis in the UK. etc., actually worked, the later generations are just parasites on the welfare systems of those states.

    Sure, the many who find a way to the parasitic classes of politics and bureaucracy are there, too.

  122. @Sarah

    Since the British started this mess, why not move to England. Your folks already own the City of London, so taking over the rest of the place would right a long time wrong. The English would be making restitution for their bad decision decades ago.

    • Replies: @Art
  123. Although only 30% of Germans were members of the Nazi party, to this day all Germans are castigated and penalized for the Nazi era.

    This appears to have been extended to all whites now.

  124. Malachi says:

    Another thought … The Jews need a state where ALL OF THEM can go. IMHO South African apartheid was just. The Boers arrived before there were any blacks in South Africa. Latter came the Brits to steal the resources of the Boers. Once something approaching a first world civilization appeared, the blacks in the north streamed south like moths to a flame. Once there were enough blacks, one could either do apartheid or one could turn over a first world country to the blacks. We see how that worked out. I do not defend the Zionists for what they have done in the Levant, but we, in America, did the same and worse to the natives in our country and went on to build a first world civilization. Worked great until the Tribe began to undermine it. So I’m all for giving those who say they are Jews but are not a land of their own. They must all go there and then they must stay there. The rest of the world would be relieved of their nefarious meddling. If that means the Palestinians need to give up land for it …

    • Replies: @A123
  125. @Reg Cæsar

    ‘Only an Arab would consider Jews to have “European origins”.’

    ? The Ashkenazim obviously have European origins. The Zionist entity is essentially an Ashkenazi invention.

    • Agree: Mevashir
  126. Exile says:
    @Sarah

    The Palestinians became interested when the Jews built, cleared, cultivated, drained, irrigated everything.

    Yep, if there’s one thing I’ve always Noticed about Jews it’s their irrepressible drive to work with their hands.

    It’s hardly safe to walk the streets of Beverly Hills or Fairfax in LA with a rake or a hoe in your hand – Jewish bankers will sweat-stain their suits chasing you down the street to tear it from your goyish hands and start tilling some sweet earth.

    No one buys the kibbutz bit anymore, Shlomo.

    I’ve rarely seen a Jew lift anything heavier than money.

    • LOL: Alfred Muscaria
    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  127. Mevashir says:
    @Kirt

    You don’t understand. Israel’s leaders will never lack for pleasures. They have plenty of escape routes and fat foreign Bank accounts. Mossad head Cohen has already signed on with a hedge fund. The simple Israeli Jews will get slaughtered just as the middle class Jews were killed in the Holocaust while their rich overlords were comfortably ensconced in safe havens.

    But the Zionist leaders need the kind of fake narrative you promote to prevent their people from coming to terms with the Palestinians.

  128. AaronB says:

    Question to the White people here –

    How do you like the imagery of a Muslim woman in hijab, leading by chain and collar a white-skinned, red haired European looking woman?

    Did Hamas sub-contract it’s propaganda posters out to BLM or something?

    🙂

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @anonomojoe
  129. A123 says:
    @RoatanBill

    Any improvements done to that land should revert to the rightful owners. No legal system allows the thief to retain stolen property, the

    You are getting close to a workable solution. All you need to do is correctly identify the criminals:

    Muhammad’s Jihad of Occupation illegally colonized the Palestine ~600 A.D. Muslim thieves have no right to retain stolen property. It needs to be returned to indigenous Palestinians (Christians & Jews). Muslim Decolonization is the answer.

    Russia and China are making the ME harder for the US to control

    Both Russia and China have extensive commercial ties with Israel. Russia has strong social ties. The idea that driving the U.S. out would empower ethnic cleansing of Jews is ludicrous. Globalist evil, such as the German dominated EU, might back a 1930’s style judenfrei plan, but the EU is torn by internal divisions.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  130. @AaronB

    ‘…So that is their victory fantasy. Not a higher vision of justice and peace for Jews and Arabs alike, but a vision of humiliating and enslaving ones enemy.’

    As opposed to the noble dreams of equity, etc offered by the Zionists.

    In any case, if Palestine is inhabited by such awful people, maybe you should leave!

    …oh yeah. You already have. And you’re not about to go back, are you?

  131. @Andreas

    Well done!

    There is no wishful thinking in this article. It is driven by a clearly substantiated optimism, as are all of Taxi’s articles.

    Speaking as one born and raised in America, I have a good handle on the cynicism underpinning much of the obviously occidental commentary. It’s not only about this conflict, it suffuses much of the discussion at UR — a pervasively negative outlook, abject resignation to Orwell’s bootstamping dystopia.

    Were I looking at it from beyond Palestine, devoid of any real knowledge of the situation, I’d probably feel the same way. After all, Israel’s agents of influence in America have had a near complete stranglehold on the narrative in mainstream domains for generations now. It’s been so firm, they really don’t mind if Joe Six-Pack slobbers, “A pox on both houses!” That kind of view is just fine with them, a mindless ambivalence that facilitates the success of Israel’s agenda both at home and abroad.

    So … we get it. We get the glib dismissals, the sneering scorn, the derision born of a world-weary malaise from which so many self-defeated souls compulsively echo contempt for a resilience and passion they remain powerless to conjure in themselves. I’ve seen it all my life, in so many places here.

    “You can’t fight city hall,” goes the adage. It’s now a grassroots aphorism embedded in America’s collective consciousness, and when they believe it is so in their very own backyard, it’s certain they’ll project this view throughout the world beyond.

    And all of this, ironically, in spite of America’s greater material wealth.

    Such despair, however, is not a luxury Palestinians can afford. Backs to the proverbial wall, accosted incessantly by the gluttonous homonculi of Zion, they do what they must to remain standing, no matter the odds, no matter the residual cost. Martyrs don’t die, they just shed their skin.

    It’s a quality of faith that colors the usual suspects green with envy, a conviction they despise for the simple reason that it remains inimitably elusive to a people whose avarice for the world has consumed every waking hour of their life, compelling them to an obsession for strength and vision only the wise man forfeits to God.

    A people so obsessed are destined to fail. Invariably, their ambition becomes the very vehicle of their own demise. Extending their reach beyond the limits of sustainability, they become ever more vulnerable, their designs increasingly transparent to subject populations. Attempting to cap the wellspring, they only divert its unstoppable flow and rise to the surface.

    Witness the desperation with which they operate here. They’re running scared like never before.

    The stranglehold is loosening. It’s only a matter of time.

    • Agree: Druid55
  132. AaronB says:
    @Mevashir

    The attitude of the Palestinians to the Israelis is the same as that of Jews to Germans

    I could only wish. Israelis today are quite friendly to Germans. Israeli troops train in Germany alongside German troops, Israelis love Berlin and many live there, and I have observed the two groups be very friendly with each other on my travels in India.

    Zionism has never deemed the Palestinians as equal partners but at best as groveling recipients of Jewish charity and paternalism

    Of course the Palestinians were not seen as equal partners. They were/are a technologically and culturally backwards people.

    That is no criticism, just a statement of fact. That Israelis were paternalistic and charitable towards the Palestinians is to their credit.

    Through development, the Palestinians may modernize and become equal partners. Perhaps, after the conflict is over, this will happen.

    At the same time, backwards or not, Israel accepted that Palestinians have the right to determine their own affairs, and accepted every proposal put forward to grant both the Jewish and Arab communities in Palestine self-determination.

    More and more it seems to me the difference between a Zionist and a Nazi is the Zionist narcissistically makes you apologize for “forcing” him to kill you while the Nazi kills you without pretense or compunction. I would say the Nazi is more honest!

    A Zionist is someone who supports the right to self-determination and a national home for Jews in Palestine, and not necessarily all of Palestine. It is a very limited goal that is defensive in character, and respects the right of other people’s to self-determination.

    A Nazi is someone who wants a German empire (Reich), a Germany that rules and enslaves non-Aryans, the conquest of other lands, and the extermination of Jews.

    Zionists seem deceptive to you, because you cannot accept at face value the stated intent of Zionists, and the long record of behavior that backs up the moderate nature of their stated goals.

    In order to justify not accepting the Zionist invitation to reach a compromise, you must claim to perceive a secret, hidden intent, that is the “real” goal of Zionists.

    In this way, you can reject all Zionist invitations to compromise as insincere, because you “know” otherwise, and can continue to choose war and maximalist positions.

    Ultimately, you, and anti-Semites in general, project your own intentions onto Israel. You simply cannot credit, and cannot believe, that anyone may be willing to reach a humane compromise rather than crush his enemies (and lead him by chain and dog collar).

  133. @AaronB

    ‘…In a very naive way, their fantasies betray what they really want, and the depiction of Israel as completely morally evil and themselves as pure serves the specific function of dehumanizing an enemy so it can be crushed and obliterated without conscience…’

    Lol. Sounds like you’re looking in a mirror there, Aaron. Replace ‘Israel’ with ‘Palestine’ and you’re there.

    …and in fact, who has sought to crush and obliterate their enemy without conscience? Did the Palestinians come to the Jews, or did the Jews go to the Palestinians?

    You literally cannot help being a hypocrite, can you?

    • Agree: Druid55
  134. A123 says:
    @Malachi

    Another thought … The Jews need a state where ALL OF THEM can go. IMHO South African apartheid was just. .. They must all go there and then they must stay there. The rest of the world would be relieved of their nefarious meddling.

    This needs to be carried through to it’s logical conclusion.

    The Muslims need a state where ALL OF THEM can go. … Muslims must all go there and then the Muslims must stay there. The rest of the world would be relieved of Muslim terrorism, intolerance, and violence.

    Imagine how peaceful it would be if:

    • China was Muslim free
    • Russia was Muslim free
    • Europe was Muslim free
    • India was Muslim free
    • Myanmar was Muslim free
    • America was Muslim free
    • Australia was Muslim free

    You are definitely onto something. An absolute maximum expansion of Islamic land needs to be defined. And, *All* Muslims *Must* Go There.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  135. Phibbs says:

    It’s interesting how Hezbollah mentions Christian holy sites being violated by the Jews. There is not one Christian politician politician in Washington D.C. standing up for the oppressed Christian community in Israel and the Occupied territories. Only Muslim Hezbollah cares. That shows just how anti-Christian American politicians and the evangelical community are.

    • Disagree: Mevashir
    • Thanks: omegabooks
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  136. TKK says:
    @Theone

    Central air and heat.
    Pain killers.
    Modern dental work.
    Grocery stores.
    Surgeons.

    I’ll take that over some maize and wampum.

    Or some grape drank and the Weekend, the Rock and Beyonce.

    That trade is one that will never happen.

    They may be dumb, but they aint’ stupid.

  137. @Delicious Irony

    Your comment reminded me of a Barbara Specter video, where she expels the same monolithic society coming for white Europeans, as Jews like her become the driving force for white replacement.
    It’s a small world and what goes around, comes around.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  138. @teo toon

    As for those Christians who think, no believe, that the ten Northern Tribes of Israel no longer exist; go back to the Old Testament you so righteously ignore and read Genesis 49-27; these speak of the presence of the tribes at the end times: they still exist.

    The eldest half-brother of the Messiah, also makes it quite clear:

    James 1:1 (KJV) “James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.”

    For those interested in this topic, here’s a deeper look, by a Hebrew Roots teacher: The Awakening of Israel, Part 2.

  139. The war on the Palestinians and Palestine was a sham, a designed war of genocide, a holocaust of Palestinians by the Israelis and their mossad wing the Hamas, this was a war crime, started by the mossads front Hamas lobbing rockets into empty land in Israel, thus giving the excuse for Israel to bomb the hell out of Palestine.

    This was a war crime of historic proportions, and of course the zionists will get away with it, they always do, remember the USS Liberty and the Israeli and ZUS traitors attack on the WTC on 911, they always get away with these crimes because they control the ZUS gov.

  140. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    The Muslims need a state where ALL OF THEM can go. … Muslims must all go there and then the Muslims must stay there. The rest of the world would be relieved of Muslim terrorism, intolerance, and violence.

    This is a totally inappropriate analogy because, unlike Judaism which is an insular ghettoized religion, Islam is a world evangelizing faith. The entire world is its target.

    Phibbs:

    It’s interesting how Hezbollah mentions Christian holy sites being violated by the Jews. There is not one Christian politician politician in Washington D.C. standing up for the oppressed Christian community in Israel and the Occupied territories. Only Muslim Hezbollah cares. That shows just how anti-Christian American politicians and the evangelical community are.

    Exactly. All corrupt religions rely on the stupidity gullibility and naivete of their adherents.

    • Replies: @A123
  141. Mevashir says:
    @AaronB

    I could only wish. Israelis today are quite friendly to Germans. Israeli troops train in Germany alongside German troops, Israelis love Berlin and many live there, and I have observed the two groups be very friendly with each other on my travels in India.

    Right. So gracious of you to be friendly to those who are paying off so much holohoax tribute money to you. Not too common for Jews to show gratitude to anyone so kudos here.

    The Zionist approach to Palestinians is this: We invade your territory and seize 90% of your land. Then we offer you our “piece-plan” whereby you get to live as our subservient bootlickers forever. And if you ever protest even the slightest we mercilessly crush you.

    What normal human being would accept such terms?

    Ultimately, you, and anti-Semites in general, project your own intentions onto Israel. You simply cannot credit, and cannot believe, that anyone may be willing to reach a humane compromise rather than crush his enemies (and lead him by chain and dog collar).

    A dog collar is far better than they deserve. The Zionists treat the PALS like insects to be crushed and exterminated.

    As far as the red haired European looking captive, the Hijab lady looks European too through her face covering.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Alfred Muscaria
  142. @A123

    I believe I saw some cave art from about 11000 years ago that claimed that Palestine belongs to the Palestinians. /sarc

    The jews have tried to use 2000 year old bullshit from their religious nonsense to claim the land they now occupy. Now you come up with stuff from 1400 years ago. Nothing from those periods can be verified and certainly all the religious texts can be discarded as just more propaganda that the terminally stupid adhere to.

    Israel is the size of fly shit in the greater scheme of things. Their economy is a rounding error with respect to China. The Chinese will trade with just about anyone, which is admirable. I don’t see them playing favorites on the scale the US does.

    The world’s people are getting really tired of the constant jewish kvetching. Their Holocaust card and antisemitism shtick are wearing thin. It won’t work for much longer. Deal with it.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, Realist
    • Replies: @A123
  143. @Sarah

    “So you want us to give up everything we have done and hand it over to the Palestinians?”
    That’s the same outcome taking place where ever Jews arrive.
    So you want whites to give up everything we have done and hand it over to (insert tribe here)?

  144. @CelestiaQuesta

    I looked up Barbara Specter. She seems to run a one woman “foundation”, on a shoestring, in Sweden.

    It gets a little funding from some rich Swede, because she brands it in a few politically correct buzzword. Its focus is on teaching the odd liberal Jew, online, about their religion.

    Why do you know about this complete nobody? It is like she runs a cornershop, has put a Pride sticker on the front window, and has gotten famous for being pro-gay. What a bizarre happenstance!

  145. @animalogic

    ‘…While Israel can still dominate the PR dimension in the West via their Jewish & christian proxies, they will likely maintain the status quo in the M. E. Of course you can never under estimate Israeli /jewish hubris & viciousness.’

    I’d say the one missing element in your calculus is the declining wealth, power, and influence of the United States.

    That’s hardly good news as far as I’m concerned, but every cloud has a silver lining, and just as a tapeworm is doomed if its host expires, so Israel cannot survive if the US ceases to be able to play global hegemon. We can already see this process unfolding with Iran’s long-term pact with China, and Syria regaining national coherence with Russian aid.

    Somewhere around the point where the United States declines to the point where it’s another Brazil, it’ll be all she wrote for the Zionist entity.

  146. Question to the White people here –

    How do you like the imagery of a Muslim woman in hijab, leading by chain and collar a white-skinned, red haired European looking woman?

    Doesn’t look European to me. More like the Monster in Bugs Bunny cartoons with that body shape or maybe Laura Loomer.

  147. @Sarah

    ‘Except that at the time of Apartheid, whites in South Africa were in the minority. In Israel, the Jews are in the majority: 4/5 of the population.’

    You’re being inconsistent; you’re counting the blacks in South Africa’s bantustans in with the population of South Africa proper — but not counting the Palestinians in Israel’s bantustans.

    …but there. The Jews have no intention of allowing the Palestinians to retain their bantustans, do they? I assume we can look forward to an Israel that is…

    …not Judenfrei. What would the right term be?

  148. Hess says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “Death and destruction everywhere. The Jihadist dream”

    Except it wasn’t the Jihadis who created this situation and paved the way for all the destruction and death in the region. Typical Zionist gaslighting demonizing their victims.That seems like a rational reaction considering the situation they have been thrown into by the Zionists, robbed them of the reasons to live, persecute them brutally and eliminate them at will.

    If I were a Pali, I would want to take out as many with me as I can, this is I think the “Samson option” is for which is certainly not “Jihadi” or is it?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  149. Mevashir says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Most are also educated. They make calculated decisions. They don’t get pregnant at 15, their daughter does not run off at age 13 with a Pakistani heroin dealer who grooms them, the fathers support the children, both parents usually have some sort of skilled occupation or white-collar trade.

    Reminds me of the joke:

    Did you hear about the redneck who got a 14 year old girl pregnant?
    And the response: Look at the bright side. At least she wasn’t his sister!
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-encounter-when-she-was-14-he-was-32/2017/11/09/1f495878-c293-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html

  150. @Sarah

    ‘Our origin is Israel.
    Palestine was of no interest to anyone. Sparsely populated, with no natural resources, fields of stones, swamps, deserts.

    ‘The Palestinians became interested when the Jews built, cleared, cultivated, drained, irrigated everything.

    ‘So you want us to give up everything we have done and hand it over to the Palestinians?’

    Congratulations. Your post is literally falsehoods from start to finish.

    Of course your origin is no more in ‘Israel’ than mine is as a Christian — or for that matter, any Muslim’s is. After all, we all have the one true text, more or less. There’s nothing that makes Judaism somehow authentic in a way that Christianity or Islam are not.

    Palestine in fact was rather well-populated, with a perfectly viable economy, before the Jews turned up.

    From the start, the Palestinians proved all too interested in retaining possession of it, didn’t they? See the Arab Revolt. That Hebron ‘Pogrom’ you like to cry about.

    As to what ‘you’ have done, a bit of aid was pumped in from outside, wouldn’t you say? Even today, without your ongoing theft, crime, and subsidies, I doubt if you would last long.

    Can we just pull the plug and see?

  151. AaronB says:
    @Mevashir

    A dog collar is far better than they deserve.

    I am sorry you feel that way.

    My vision – and the Zionist vision – is that of peace, prosperity, and mutual cooperation for Jew and Arab alike, in the whole region, as brothers and friends, based on mutual respect.

    Your vision is of an Islamist woman in hijab with an assault rifle leading a European looking Jew by a chain tied to a dog collar on her neck, humiliated and enslaved.

    We shall see in the end which vision trimuphs, and which vision the good people of the world, the ones with a conscience, end up supporting.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Mevashir
  152. @Mevashir

    The Zionist approach to Palestinians is this: We invade your territory and seize 90% of your land. Then we offer you our “piece-plan” whereby you get to live as our subservient bootlickers forever. And if you ever protest even the slightest we mercilessly crush you.

    What normal human being would accept such terms?

    That seems to be the exact same deal being offered to whites. Probably not a coincidence. I would add industry to that 90%. The US is being asset stripped as we speak.

  153. @AaronB

    People who are stoned & high on Ecstasy at a Full Moon Party in Goa love everybody.

    Also, and I am a German-American, its kind of hard to tell with Israelis whose families are German or Polish-especially Polish.

    Some Jews are obviously Eastern Mediterranean but when you’re stoned on Kingfisher beer & Kashmiri hashish in Goa…you cannot really be sure.

    As for Palestine, it is not so much that the White Supremacists or the extreme-Leftists could find it on a map, but simply that they oppose Zion.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  154. Hess says:
    @A123

    You make it sound like they never won anything. I’m well aware of the fact the Muslims dominated for the most part of their history everywhere they go. They are only losing to the Anglo-Saxon might, take notice, little Khazaria would perish in a day if it wasn’t for the Whitey only if it came to be in the first place.

    Also, take notice they had the mental range, confidence and caliber to create a civilization and export it far and wide and you even at the zenith of your success is still a racist colony engaged in genocide by the weapons donated by Whitey.

  155. @Nostradamus

    That is a harrowing watch, the kid being suffocated,

    The Jews are one sick bunch of motherfuckers,

    Compare that to the George Floyd video and here you have real murderous intent,

    Are there any details available as to who this kid is and where exactly this happened because that would be one huge game changer if it got the publicity it deserves,

    It made my stomach churn and brought tears to the eyes of a 60 year old guy who isn’t easily shocked.

    • LOL: TKK
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Fran Taubman
    , @TKK
  156. @Sarah

    “ You forget the main thing: Israel has the atomic bomb”.
    Israel’s Mutually Assured Destruction would be applauded around the world.
    Unless they all leave just before the great event.
    This happened a few times before in history, using less lethal weapons, with far greater damage.
    A desert wondering plague moves from host to host until they are no more.

  157. Mevashir says:
    @Phibbs

    It’s interesting how Hezbollah mentions Christian holy sites being violated by the Jews. There is not one Christian politician in Washington D.C. standing up for the oppressed Christian community in Israel and the Occupied territories. Only Muslim Hezbollah cares. That shows just how anti-Christian American politicians and the evangelical community are.

    Close but no cigar. The Christian Zionists are Protestants. The Christian holy sites in the Holy Land that Nasrallah is talking about are mainly Catholic and Greek Orthodox and the Protestant Fundies in Amerika don’t give a damn about them. It’s part of the tragic division of Christendom from the time of the Protestant Deformation.

    Most Christian Evangelical tours from Amerika today totally ignore Nazareth and Bethlehem and go only to non-Catholic sites that are amenable to their Zionist tourguides and handlers.

  158. Anon[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @PJ London


    Israel is finished. It may take a few more years but they are dead.
    Jews will continue to live in Palestine as the first virtue in Islam is Mercy. Allah the merciful.

    Brilliant.

  159. @Sarah

    …You forget the main thing: Israel has the atomic bomb’

    Actually, you forget the main thing: apartheid South Africa had the atomic bomb as well.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Wielgus
  160. SafeNow says:

    This seems like nothing that \$2 trillion could not fix, to turn Palestine homelands into places resembling cities and suburbs in New Mexico and Arizona. But whenever I say that, someone replies to say that I under-estimate the mutual hatreds; violence would continue, mutual prosperity notwithstanding.

  161. Alfred says:
    @Anon

    whether the land patch was Zulu or Shmulu makes no difference. The fact of the matter is that ‘white’ people took African land, and you’re defending this?

    Like all Westerners who have never lived in Africa, you display your profound ignorance by assuming that all Blacks in Africa are the same. You don’t accept that everything of value in South Africa was created by Whites. If the Whites had not worked this land and mines, these Bantu tribes would have never moved there.

    Tell us of a single farm or business in today’s South Africa that was created by and is entirely run by Blacks?

    Can you do that or is it a task that is too difficult for you. 🙂

    The reality is that without the Whites and those of mixed-race, South Africa’s economy would collapse the next day.

    • Replies: @Capetonian
    , @Marckus
  162. Mevashir says:
    @Da's Reich

    Maybe the kid was having a seizure and they were trying to subdue him to help him? Or maybe the kid had just cursed his mother and therefore deserved to die??

  163. Anne Lid says:
    @Mevashir

    Saint Mary for Szatmár or (Satu Mare, “great village”, as the Romanians call it now) is merely a Jewish folk etymology. It has nothing to do with the mother of God, probably comes from a personal name Zotmar (had to look it up in wiki, since I’ve never heard about the origin of the name, but it did not feel right).
    Thanks for the Kasztner article. I knew he was assassinated in the fifties, in Israel.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  164. @anonymous

    – Agent Orange is a gibberelline derivate – in essence a plant hormone; what would be the point of killing Hamas´geraniums (the horror!) ? It only became a problem b/c the US were too cheap (a few cents/gal) to use the already existing BASF patent for producing it dioxin-free.

    – All oppressed peoples are wont to imbibe and engage in fantasies (not least the Jews themselves whose sacred texts consist of childish revenge fantasies to make a pig barf); it is imperative not to lose sight of reality. The South Africa analogue (that everything hinges on public perception) is both fitting and sobering … ZA could have militarily held out forever but the YKW killed it with sanctions – while doing swift arms business with them (fun fact: Israel and ZA were the only states to continue Project Agile – race-specific chem/bio weapons – after the US discontinued (yeah, right) it in 1975; last I heard they were disappointed that Palestinians were not genetically distinct enough, but progress since has been exponential.).

    I do hold that long-term the one-state solution and full right-of-return is inevitable (instantly reducing Jews to under 30%) but as long as they control perception another war is more probable (and would serve to polish their victimhood).

  165. @Priss Factor

    It’s called July 4th. Come on in for the big win.

  166. Sarah says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Shove it vermin.

    That’s all you could come up with, right?

    • Agree: Sean
  167. Bert says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Having dated a number of Ashkenazi and Sephardic women, I can assure you that the Ashkenazim gene pool contains plenty of Slavic and Germanic ancestry.

  168. Sarah says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    disgusting murderous ghoul,

    You are a foul and disgusting vampire.
    How can normal human beings deal with you creatures ?

    That’s all you could come up with, right?

    • Replies: @E_Perez
  169. Sarah says:
    @anonymous

    How disgusting.

    That’s all you could come up with, right?

  170. @Sarah

    ‘I suggest that White Americans pack their suitcases, leave the land they stole and colonized and return to Europe or Russia (huge open spaces there).’

    Ah. Ye Olde Indian argument. Takes me back…that one got beaten to death about 2002.

  171. Art says:
    @RoatanBill

    Since the British started this mess, why not move to England. Your folks already own the City of London, so taking over the rest of the place would right a long time wrong.

    The Jews already own GB – politically it is the Conservative Jews vs. the Labour Jews. Both favor Israeli foreign policy. The upper class, bank with the Rothschild Jews. The lower classes squabble over government crumbs from the Jew controlled political parties.

    The only righteous hope for anything honorable in GB, comes from the broad citizen consensus for the Palestinian cause.

  172. @J

    ‘Palestinian victory? You find them begging for charity all over the world, while Israelis are scuba diving in Seychelles.’

    Come to think of it, Germany was riding pretty high, wide, and handsome in 1941, wasn’t she?

    You just relax. Keep doing what you’ve been doing. It’s a sure-fire plan.

  173. Mevashir says:
    @Anne Lid

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-this-day-zionism-s-first-political-assassination-1.5288744
    Another Zionist assassination of the Jewish emissary to the King of Jordan on behalf of the anti-partition Jewish community in the Holy Land.

    Thank you for Satmar derivation

  174. @AaronB

    A cephalopod Flintenweib and a carpet-worshipper Flintenweib shall both
    be kapores for me – I guess it´s meant as payback for the Abu Ghraib pics.

    – That the Jew has the absolutist run of things in Germany does not mean it is popular; it´s just that some people adapt, as some people among all peoples have always done.
    Look beneath the astroturf … 😛
    R.W. Darré (“Um Blut und Boden“) has worked out well why the nomadic overlord
    (“sit like effendis and eat”, h/t the execrable Ovadja Yossef) always fails in the long run
    (I may ever-so-mildly remind you that also was Herzl´s basic idea 😀 ).
    Of course it´s only money that´s at stake but it´s a shitload –
    Wiederjudmachung for 6 million, pensions for 9 million survivors, tax exemption
    for all Jewish residents and their extended families and restitution of everything ever owned by a Jew.
    Wouldn´t want to lose that, would we? (oh, and the submarines)

  175. @Sarah

    ‘It is the Arabs and Palestinians who have attacked us from the beginning. They have always refused the peace offers that Israel has made.’

    Do you really expect anyone to take that lie seriously?

    ‘The problems between the Jews and the inhabitants of the countries to which they had taken refuge came from the fact that the Jews had no state of their own, unlike the others.
    What other state do you propose? Uganda, Namibia, Madegascar? This would have been possible in the 19th century, but now?

    You want to drive us out of our country, that’s fine, that’s your opinion, but what country do you give us in exchange?’

    Why should you get a country? Many — probably most — ethnic and religious groups do not have their own country. Mennonites, Rohingya, Mormons, Bretons, Navajo, Sorbs, Bahai, Keren, Zulus, Biafrans, Circassians, Druze, Basques, Tibetans, Uighers…why should Jews get their own country?

    Please, try to at least come up with an original lie or canard. Think you could do that? It’s necessary to keep shooting you down — but it’s not terribly interesting.

    • Replies: @Sarah
  176. Avery says:
    @Mevashir

    This video is clearly staged: doesn’t look authentic at all.
    Looks like a skit from some comedy show.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  177. @Da's Reich

    No one knows what the context of that video is. Where it was shot. No markings of an Israeli policeman. The fact that you accept that a Jew would suffocate a child in that video is what this entire propaganda campaign is about. Making the Jews look like the devil killing and torturing the poor poor Palestinians. Never mind the call for Jewish genocide in the Hamas charter.

    But this video is more disturbing and sick then the standard Jew killing innocence photos or videos. It is a child snuff film and should never see the light of day. Watching a child murdered, should not be allowed as a viewable film.

    I do not know anyone that would suffocate a child to death. And thank G-d I have enough faith in all mankind not a Muslim, or really any normal person, while someone stands by and video tapes it without stopping it. I have common sense something very few people on this thread can muster.

    Hold on a second and think about what was really going on in that film and why it was produced. There is nothing identifying a Jewish person, or anyone in that video. Ron should ban it.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @Da's Reich
    , @Druid55
  178. Avery says:
    @Colin Wright

    Not a good comparison.

    South Africa could not very well use the atomic bomb on itself: (white) SA was defeated from inside.

    In the case of Israel, I am not sure either.
    The only way Israel can use the A-bomb to defend itself would be against an external enemy, say Egypt.(Israel apparently threatened to A-bomb the Aswan dam in one of the wars). But Egypt is no longer an enemy.

    Iran might qualify, but Israel can’t be sure what Russia will do if Israel A-bombs a country so near Russia (…..radioactive fallout on Russia).

    And Israel can’t vey well use the A-bomb either in Gaza or the West Bank.
    So I don’t think Israel possessing A-bombs will help them vis-a-via Palestinians.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  179. A123 says:
    @RoatanBill

    I believe I saw some cave art from about 11000 years ago that claimed that Palestine belongs to the Palestinians. /sarc

    I believe I saw some fiction from about 100 years ago coming that Palestine belong Muslims, not indigenous Palestinians (Jews & Christians) /sarc

    Use simple logic. Which is true -A- or -B-?

    -A- If claims persist over time. The the native religions of Palestine, Judaism & Christianity, have a much better claim than non-indigenous Islam because they predate Islam.

    -B- If claims do not persist over time, there can be no historical justification. The Jews win now, because they are winning now.

    There is no logic that can make a 700 year old claim untouchable while a 1,400 year claims is void.

    Israel is the size of fly shit in the greater scheme of things.

    If Jewish Palestine (a.k.a. Israel) is so small, then violent Islam should be happy to go. According to your “logic” it is not worth stealing in the greater scheme of things.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  180. A123 says:
    @Mevashir

    This is a totally inappropriate analogy because, unlike Judaism which is an insular ghettoized religion, Islam is a world evangelizing faith.

    Far more Christians, like myself, have died at the hands of the Blood Cult of Muhammad than have fallen to any other faith. There us nothing evangelical about the horror of Allah. It is hard to imagine anything more evil than Muslim death screamers shouting “Allah is Greater than Jesus” as they try to cut my head off.

    The analogy is totally appropriate. The danger to faithful Jews & Christians from non-believer Muslims must be contained.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Druid55
  181. Sarah says:
    @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

    Goddam freeloaders.

    That’s all you could come up with, right?

  182. @Lucy Lipinska

    Two white South Africans ‘orientalising’ the other in their quest to maintain the delusion … like Zionists. “They just don’t understand”

  183. Sarah says:
    @WP

    Q. You want to drive us out of our country, that’s fine, that’s your opinion, but what country do you give us in exchange?

    A. Gehenna

    That’s all you could come up with, right?

    • Replies: @WP
  184. Sarah says:
    @DaveE

    I love it when Jews expose to world, with comments like this, what vile, satanic filth they are.

    That’s all you could come up with, right?

  185. mcohen says:

    The Abraham accords have been signed and they will be implemented.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  186. @Alfred

    You justify this by challenging someone to name business started by a black man that us successful? Really?
    Okay Herman Mashaba : black like me formed during apartheid … Amka products … loxion kulcha … are you actually aware of the “black diamonds” who gave tons of self-started consultancies, professional practices and SMME’s … cone on bro … at least do the research before you spout such self-delusional idiocy … South Africa has all the elements that define an apartheid state… your submission is irrelevant…

  187. @Avery

    ‘The only way Israel can use the A-bomb to defend itself would be against an external enemy, say Egypt.’

    I think you miss the central problem. If Israel used an atomic bomb in response to anything short of being physically overrun, she would instantly render herself a pariah. The US would be divided, and everyone else would break relations.

    That happens, Israel’s dead. She can’t survive on her own any more than a tapeworm can live outside the human body.

    Now for the alternative: Israel is being overrun. Well, that’ll certainly hurt whoever is doing the overrunning — but it’ll be too late to save Israel. In fact, it might make surrender pretty hard.

    So I imagine having the bomb makes Zionists feel big ‘n strong. How much good it does them is another matter. They have to be facing a foe who is otherwise visibly about to destroy them, and who can in fact be convinced to desist by the threat of nuclear devastation.

    In fact, of course, not only is that not going to happen, but Israel isn’t going to be destroyed by military means at all. She’d going die not with a bang, but a whimper. In the end, she’ll collapse because not enough Jews will want to live there.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  188. @A123

    The living breathing people that occupied Palestine when the Zionist terrorists drove them out have a claim to the land. No one has a better claim. These people were violently dispossessed by Zionist gangs under fear of death. These people want their land back. It’s as simple as that, and they deserve it.

    I don’t care what ridiculous religion they have. It makes no difference if they are muslim, christian, jew, atheist, etc. Anyone who got evicted deserves to have their property returned to them.

    How can you possible believe otherwise?

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Fran Taubman
  189. AaronB says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Not Goa, the high mountains of Ladakh. Alcohol is very hard to get, and no drugs.

  190. @AaronB

    ‘My vision – and the Zionist vision – is that of peace, prosperity, and mutual cooperation for Jew and Arab alike, in the whole region, as brothers and friends, based on mutual respect…’

    That’s why you accepted the 1947 Partition Plan and honor it to this day, right? Brothers and friends, respect for Palestinian civil and property rights, honoring the partition boundary, the future of Jerusalem decided by plebiscite…

    It’s not too late. What you took you can give back…an awful lot of those Palestinians remember exactly where they came from.

    Now that you’ve got the power, you can keep your word and feel safe. Don’t let me slow you down or anything…

    lying, hypocritical swine.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  191. @mcohen

    ‘The Abraham accords have been signed and they will be implemented.’

    …and we just saw how much they’ve changed the situation. It’s a whole new ball game, huh?

  192. Skeptikal says:
    @Art

    I think that has to be the plan, becuase it seems to be the only plan short of ongoing murder and more murder and mayhem.

    The Jews are the problem with that plan. They are the ones committing murder and mayhem. For that reason alone (forgetting any others for the sake of argument), I don’t think anyone will want to take them in. It would be like inviting ISIS into your country. Like the Frei Corps returning to Germany after The Great War.

    Israelis and their officials and military and police have been trained to be killers and pogromers.
    It would be insanity to let them into your country.
    They do need to be segregated, just not in Pal.
    I think the Russian Far East sounds a like a good idea. Or, an island somewhere.

    It is the Jews’ ideology to want to be separate and segregated, so I don’t see anything at all wrong with agreeing with them.

    • Agree: Art
    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  193. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:
    @AaronB

    “US doesn’t have leverage on Israel “.

    That has been parroted million times since 1960 by Israeli supporters in USA and they continue do so while same time they claim : we have leverage over Egypt or Qatar or Jordan because we subsidize their economy or protect their crowns .

    That shows the stupidity and extent of the attention deficits of the US TV viewers .
    That explains part of this blindness and moronic utterances.
    Worst explanation is the fear of being called antisemite by Zionists .

  194. A123 says:
    @RoatanBill

    Let me fix that for you:

    The living breathing people that lived in their Palestinian homeland when Muslim Jihadis drove them out have a claim to the land. No one has a better claim. These people were violently dispossessed by TransJordanian gangs under fear of death. These people want their land back. It’s as simple as that, and they deserve it.

    How can you possibly believe otherwise?
    _____

    Here is a refresher *on the facts* you missed them the first time around: (1)

    In 1948, the Transjordanian Arab Legion ordered residents of the Nahalat Shimon and Shimon Hatzadik neighborhoods to leave their homes for the majority Jewish western half of Jerusalem. The legion expelled Jews from the areas it conquered. The residents duly fled their homes.

    In 1956, the government of Jordan, in cooperation with the United Nations Relief Works Association (UNRWA), arranged for the housing of 28 Palestinian refugee families in the area of the abandoned homes in the Shimon Hatzadik neighborhood. Jordan built new apartments and the families leased the homes, paying a nominal rent.

    Why are you surprised that Palestine Jews want to reverse ethnic cleansing?

    Why are violent Muslims, like yourself, totally committed to Apartheid?

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/05/15/the-hamas-rocket-attacks-are-based-on-a-lie-n1447193

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @RoatanBill
  195. @AaronB

    ‘“As Israel’s Dependence on U.S. Shrinks, So Does U.S. Leverage”’

    What leverage? It’s been at least thirty years since we even attempted to exert any leverage on Israel.

    That’s just the New York Times rationalizing continuing to condone Israel’s crimes.

  196. The antisemites here, both the author and the commenters, are simply delusional. Israel has already tested particle beam weapons against drones and missiles. These will make the shootdown costs of defense quite manageable. At some point, the Chinese will make an alliance with Israel (it’s happening already) and allow them to teach the Palestinians, and the world, a rather brutal lesson. The Palestinians have worn out their welcome amongst their Arab brethren. In point of fact, the world has already passed peak Arab love, and is moving past them. Plus, look at the demographics. Israel has a positive TFR. And new drone technologies will allow targeted assassinations quite easily.
    The Palestinians have misplayed their cards for too long. They’re done for.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @anon
    , @anon
    , @anon
  197. Malla says:
    @AaronB

    A Nazi is someone who wants a German empire (Reich), a Germany that rules and enslaves non-Aryans, the conquest of other lands, and the extermination of Jews.

    Bullshit. National Socialism is neither interested in Germans enslave non Germans nor extermination of anybody. It is taking control of your own country and expelling negative foreign influence.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  198. Sean says:

    In 1948, Zionism had promised the Jews of Israel two vital services: security and prosperity.

    It was officially a Jewish State and so somewhere Jews could could live among other Jews. The lack of security and prosperity relative to Jews who live in white gentile states was always understood. The Palestinians want that kind of a state too. It is a kind of outdated idea, but there is usually a good reason for these old beliefs a Peter Cushing says in Brides Of Dracula.

  199. Max Payne says:

    I hope Palestinians don’t let this victory go to their head. Remember the IDF is the army of diapers. This victory should have come 40 years ago.

    I imagine Israel is working towards a flash operation to snuff out the recent jubilation. It has to if it has any competence.

    Israelis are clearly too retarded to realize Netanyahu just scammed them into staying in power so what other options are left?

    • Replies: @Monty Ahwazi
  200. @AaronB

    I hear you on the BLM thing for sure. They were applauding an Arab victory in Dearborn Michigan when Orville Hubbard’s statue was relocated. One hears quite a bit of anti-white rhetoric from Palestinian activists and their BLM allies, so your keen observation is only blunted by that chameleonic Ashkenazi problem we non-jew whites have encountered over generations.

    That said, I’m all for pictures speaking multiple truths.

    Here’s some digital samizdat you may not have encountered before.

    https://www.johndenugent.com/violent-white-supremacy-in-israel/

  201. Malla says:


    Palestinian ambassador Husam Zomlot . Excellent.
    At 6:50 minutes he says “Our offer of a two State solution was never a Palestinian demand, our offer was a Palestinian concession.” Brilliant and very true.

  202. Malla says:

    Or will their survival instinct kick in and have them packing suitcases and returning back to their European, Russian and American origins?

    The problem with this is that a huge percentage of the Israeli population are Mizrahi Jews of Middle Eastern origin. They have no business being in Europe or America. Many Israelis today are half Mizrahi, half Ashkenazi.

    The Jews should have learned this lesson from the now defunct Apartheid South Africa.

    Extremely wrong comparison. French Algeria, most European colonies, Rhodesia and Apartheid South Africa were destroyed by Globalist elites. The same Globalist elites support Israel. It is not the same. If Palestine would have been colonized by gentile Europeans, it would have ended DECADES ago. On the other hand, had South African been a Zionist project, it would have survived till now.
    Comparing Kashmir or Palestine with South Africa or British India or French Algeria is foolishness, they all were dismantled by globalist elites. If there would not have been any such conspiracy, there was no chance in hell that French Algeria or British India or Apartheid South Africa would have ended. They would have continued till now and into the future with ease.

    • Disagree: Fran Taubman
  203. AaronB says:
    @Malla

    That would be nice.

    But why did the Nazis describe their political project as an empire? And are you disputing that the Nazis wanted to conquer Slavic lands, and in many cases enslave Slavs, and exterminate Jews?

    I am a fan of German culture, and harbor zero animosity to Germans per se. I even accept that Germans had a legitimate”Jewish problem”, although Nazism was an insane overreaction. Nazism was an aberration and does not represent “Germannes” , but it is what it is.

    • Replies: @E_Perez
    , @Malla
  204. @BorisMay

    Judaism a mental illness? Maybe. Talmudic and Kabbalah Judaism? DEFINITELY! ANY religion that seeks to enslave all gentiles and murder all Christians is psychopathy! And then you have the walking contradiction aspects….. and, oh yeah, the (Revelation 2:9 and 3:9) Synagogue of Satan aspect. Heck, Talmudic Jews even believe non-Talmudic Jews are no better than gentiles! And then you have Nuturei Karta, that hates Zionism but is still Talmudic….

  205. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t understand- are you saying the Israelis didn’t accept the 1947 partition plan?

    So your position is that the formal and public acceptance of the partition by the Jewish community of Palestine, was not real, and that in some secret way that only you and people like you understand, the Jews “really” didn’t accept?

    If so, it sounds like whatever the reality is, you won’t accept it…

  206. Sasquatch says:

    Whoa, man. What makes you think Israel couldn’t have destroyed the Palestinian Resistance? Israel certainly didn’t bring anywhere near full force and Zionism hasn’t collapsed. Furthermore, religious tolerance does not exist in the Levant, Lebanon as case in point. However, the U.S. plays both sides, investing hundreds of millions in Palestine and billions in Israel. Perpetual war in the Middle East must be profitable.

  207. Anon[188] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    China and it faced a similar foes that Arab faced , there would have been a dozen states with kings and dictators but penned controlled and corralled by a Thai or Burmeae or Assamese nation who left the lands hundreds of years ago .
    Jordan Syria Iraq Lebanon Saudi Arab are the creations of France Zionist and English .
    So don’t open the book in the middle and start wondering or pondering or blaming .

    It’s one Arab country and Israel would be drowned on its own volition one day .

    Meanwhile Zionists have been bringing the wars to the markets of Canada and USA using the anti Semitism canard as we speak .

  208. @A123

    I’m a lapsed catholic turned atheist. That you can simply make up stuff, like I’m muslim, means you have no credibility. Israel is an apartheid police state and I loathe them for it.

    You failed to mention the goings on with Haganah, Irgun, the Stern Gang among others. Why is that? If your point is that all gov’ts are as crooked as a dogs hind leg, then I agree. That some gov’t displaced people isn’t news. What was done to the jews was just as bad as what the jews are currently doing to the palestinians.

    The current land in question is palestinian land that was taken by terrorist zionists. Once that’s squared away with a return of that land to the rightful owners, then the jews can take up their claim against the gov’t that displaced them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @A123
  209. @Max Payne

    The IKF (killing force) is still crying for getting their asses kicked by Hezbollah after all these years! Now Hamas is showing them its new power! It could be the beginning of the end for the apartheid “little shitty state” as GHB called it since IKF knows that it can get kicked from all directions!

  210. Taxi is the the most inspired writer of the Resistance today. She is incisive and spectacularly well-informed.

  211. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    The danger to faithful Jews & Christians from non-believer Muslims must be contained.

    I don’t believe that you are a Christian. I think you’re a Zionist troll. No Christian could possibly call Jews, who hate Jesus and say he’s boiling in excrement for eternity and that his mother is a whore, “faithful”.

    I know a Syrian Christian who writes respectfully about Islam. He told me that in the Middle East Christians and Muslims get along pretty well and that Islam is viewed as a Christian heresy.

    From a Christian perspective both Jews and Muslims have virtues and deficiencies. Your comment manifests no understanding of this.

    Jews have the Old Testament text which Muslims have corrupted through the Qur’an. But Jews hate and revile Jesus while Muslims respect him deeply and Revere his mother as well. Who can say which religion is more virtuous or more offensive in the eyes of God?

    As a Jewish believer in Jesus who lived in Israel and studied Islam up close, my view is that Islam is a measure-for-measure consequence of the Jewish rejection of Christ in favor of a Davidic conquering king. This is precisely the model of Muhammad as a king Prophet Warrior poet and judge. The Talmud reports that King David had a large harem: 18 regular wives plus countless women captured in battle who became his concubines. Compared to that Muhammad’s 23 wives is modest (to say nothing of Solomon’s supposed Harem of a thousand).

    The problem with Christians (giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are one which I would not bet on) is that you show unjustified and unwarranted favoritism to Jews and hostility to Muslims. If you really are a Christian you need to deal with Jews and Muslims in a balanced and even handed way, recognizing the unique virtues and liabilities of each group.

    Instead you slavishly sing the praises of the Jews and denounce the Muslims, which suggests to me that either you’re a Zionist troll or you’re simply an ignorant Christocrite.

    The apostle Paul in his Letter to Romans says that Gentile Christians should not be arrogant against Jewish unbelievers. (Note that he calls them unbelievers unlike you who sing their praises and call them believers even though they hate your supposed Lord and Savior.) But while Paul warns not to be arrogant against them he does not say that you should be friendly with them either. How can you serve as salt and light to unbelievers if you are obsequious to them?

    You end up pandering to the Jews and not telling them of their need for Messiah and you needlessly anger antagonize and alienate the Muslims. A double strikeout. People like you actually are responsible for all the violence in the Middle East because you puff up the Jews with pride and arrogance and humiliate and scorn the Muslims: a surefire recipe for murderous conflict and confrontation.

    But my experience with American Christian Zionists is they are in love with what they call “redemptive violence.” They’re like people sitting at the boxing rink watching the Jewish and the Muslim boxer bash their brains out, gleefully cheering on from the safety outside the ropes. They contribute nothing positive to the situation but rather they are troublemaking low class ignorant scum.

    • Replies: @WP
    , @A123
    , @lydia
  212. @Exalted Cyclops

    Planet Shlomo could then be ricocheted to the far corners of the Cosmos away from any reasonable sentient being.

  213. Sulu says:
    @Victor999

    The first step Israel needs to take to deal with this matter is to rid itself of the self-congratulatory, arrogant hubris it possesses and recognise that reality is such that it needs to make compromises if it is to survive.

    The Jews rid themselves of their hubris and delusions of superiority? Never going to happen. Jewish arrogance, greed and hubris know no limits. They always overplay their hand. And it always bites them in the ass. Every damn time.

    I firmly believe most Jews are quite mad. They actually believe their own delusions that Jews have the God given right to lord over any non Jew. No matter how many times the non Jewish world hands them their ass they persist with their delusions. If they get kicked out of Palestine they will simply lick their wounds and plot revenge on any one they can for not going along with their delusion. They are like fucking Trannies. No matter how many times they are told they can’t be women they insist that they are. Quite obviously mad.

    Sulu

  214. @RoatanBill

    The living breathing people that occupied Palestine when the Zionist terrorists drove them out have a claim to the land. No one has a better claim. These people were violently dispossessed by Zionist gangs under fear of death. These people want their land back. It’s as simple as that, and they deserve it.

    How can you possible believe otherwise?

    Because that is not what happened. Zionist terrorist did not drive the Palestinians out of their land. That is never what happened. Not then, not now, not ever. That is a lie. It is a lie perpetuated to create a story of people becoming landless and refugees because of the Jews throwing them out of Palestine with the use of the European refuges mostly that came to Israel in1948 after the war, who were stateless.

    But the entire history of the Jews in Palestine, which was never an independent country run by Palestinians is a complex story with many twists and turns. Jews bought their land from Ottoman sheiks, who never lived there. Why don’t you start your story from the beginning and be somewhat honest about Arabia, the Arabs, Islam, Empires etc. It is a complicated and long story. Only fools and irrational Jew haters, like yourself talk about the Jews arriving and throwing out the Palestinians.

    1948 is the middle of the story. The Jews bought land and lived in Palestine from biblical times forward, albeit not a majority none the less they were there. Did you know the Ottomans supported the Germans in WW2. Not a good idea, since the Germans lost.

    The lie is to coverup the hatred of Islam towards Jews becoming equal, and independent. What it means to Muslims for Jews to the right for self determination. something they have not had since biblical times. For Muslims feel that Allah shed his grace towards the Jews condemned them and embraced Mohammed the seal of the last prophet and elevated the Muslims above the Jews. For Muslims the Jews rising to equality means that what they have been told about the superiority of Islam is a lie. Islam accepts Judaism and Christianity but under the umbrella of Islam, not as independent and equal in the eyes of Allah.

    Jews stepping out to self determination and control and taking charge of their own holy site and their own land, is the most threatening for Islam. A built in wallop of a threat. A slap in the face.
    Look at the map below of all those Muslims only countries that rid themselves of the Jews and tell me this one little strip. This spit of land is such a big deal to be a Jewish state. It is not a big deal it is the infantilizing of Islam and its in ability to reason clearly that we are where we are today.

    It was never the locals that rose up against the Jews. It was the Pan Arabs the Arabs that wanted to be united under one Muslim Arabia. These dictators and rulers cared very little for the Palestinians. Zero. They declared war and told the locals to duck for a couple of days. After it was over and the Arabs lost, they refused to take in not one Palestinian refugee. They were left in tented camps in Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, used as political pawns. This entire soap opera is one of subterfuge and lies, which is why it has failed so miserably.

    This little sliver of land was important to none until the Jews got there. I mean no one during Ottoman times.

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    • Agree: A123, Charlesz Martel
    • Thanks: Sarah
    • LOL: Notsofast
  215. WP says:
    @Sarah

    You are a child of evil and unworthy on more engagement, other than burning hatred and cold contempt. I hold fast in my faith that your elimination is coming soon.

    • LOL: Sarah, Fran Taubman
  216. WP says:
    @Mevashir

    If he is not a sayanim troll, he is probably just a low IQ, poorly educated Southern/Midwestern American Evanglitard. Their destiny is to dies for the Zionism, along with their families. They think that this ‘sacrifice” will make “Jeebus” love them.

  217. Mevashir says:
    @AaronB

    My vision – and the Zionist vision – is that of peace, prosperity, and mutual cooperation for Jew and Arab alike, in the whole region, as brothers and friends, based on mutual respect.

    Your vision is of an Islamist woman in hijab with an assault rifle leading a European looking Jew by a chain tied to a dog collar on her neck, humiliated and enslaved.

    You completely misunderstand me AB. My vision is not that the Israelis should be led around chained up like a dog but rather I totally understand why the Palestinians would want to do that to you.

    You talk about Mutual respect, but you can’t steal property from someone and then say you would like to live in peace with your newly impoverished neighbor if they can only accept the new facts on the ground. Nobody would respect that. That’s actually the ultimate kind of chutzpah. Like if you hit someone in the face breaking his nose and then sue him for bleeding on your shirt.

    Your supposed vision of peaceful cooperation and coexistence lacks Justice and therefore can never be realized. What if the Germans had approached the Jews living in the Warsaw Ghetto and said “We would like to be good neighbors to you if you would only just accept this new reality and Status Quo that you have to live like vermin while we live on the outside like lords.” What if the Germans said to the Jews in Auschwitz “Don’t you understand that this is the best way for us to coexist, with us (Unz) as your overlords and you as our slaves?”

    I don’t know whether you really believe your propaganda. In a way I hope you do because the alternative is that you’re a devious liar on behalf of a corrupt and unjust regime. But if you do believe this fairy tale You preach to us then that suggests there’s something terribly wrong with you, that you have no moral compass, that you’re an evil narcissist who cannot show empathy to the victims of your nation’s abuses and depredations.

    Read the American Declaration of Independence that talks about a “long train of abuses” inflicted upon the colonists by the British. Those abuses however severe they may have been are nothing compared to the degradation and slow motion extermination the Palestinian suffer at your hands.

    People who have no moral compass and no empathy are truly a grave danger to the more decent folks in the rest of the world. In my view as a Christian believer, Jewish people like you are the antichrist, the total antithesis of all that is good and decent and can only be vanquished by a direct act of Divine Intervention. Before that happens I would hope that you and as many of your friends relatives and fellow Nazionists as possible would take the opportunity to align yourselves with truth justice and the Heavenly Jerusalem way. In other words get on the right side of God before he intervenes and sentences you for your crimes against Heaven and Humanity. Amen.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @AaronB
  218. WP says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Spoken like a true jew.
    In the immortal words of Evil Wiesel, “Things are not that simple, Rebbe. Some events do take place but are not true; others are—although they never occurred.”

    • LOL: Sarah
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  219. @Hess

    If I were a Pali, I would want to take out as many with me as I can, this is I think the “Samson option” is for which is certainly not “Jihadi” or is it?

    Stupidity like this from Jew haters is why the Palestinians and Arabs are where they are today. The biggest losers on the face of the earth. Arafat met will Clinton more than any other world leader. Arafat was given boats, plans, helicopters, mountain villas. You name it. He just could not admit that the existence of a Jewish temple under the mosque and walked away.

    Sure tell those Pali’s to take out as many Jews as the can, and then come crying to you when children die and their house gets blown up. What sound advice. If you lose time and time again. Loss on top of loss. You make the best deal with the victorious you can. This is the way of warfare. Not the Jihadist.
    Oh No. They Won!! They Won!!!. That is why Gaza looks like a bombed out shit hole and Israel looks like a functioning country. Live a fantasy, die in a fantasy.

  220. @Fran Taubman

    I don’t care about anyone’s religious hokus pokus. All the ancient religious rubbish in those contrived documents prove nothing. I also don’t care about what happened before the Brits handed a chunk of land to the terrorists that forced them and the locals out. The people that were displaced, the ones that lived on the land and had their property seized are the ones that need to have their property returned to them.

    The jews have been exiled from numerous places. It’s not credible to believe it was always without cause. Antisemitism exists for a reason as a stereotype caricature of a people, just like the Irish are drunks.

    If the jews were displaced from land that then came to be in palestinian hands, then the jews should get that land back. This needs to be done on a case by case basis. Once the argument becomes we had the land a thousand years ago, that’s a loser.

    Israel has been stealing land as national policy for decades, so attempting to claim victim status is hollow.

    • Replies: @Realist
  221. @Mevashir

    Despotic Arab rulers don’t want them…

    • Agree: Sarah
  222. @Mevashir

    In my view as a Christian believer…

    No Christian prophet ever declared war upon us.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @WP
  223. @TG

    The result of Hamas shooting countless primitive unguided missiles at Israel was: a tiny number of civilian casualties easily brushed off (at least in the strategic sense).

    Is that why Occupied Palestine wanted a ceasefire…?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  224. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Did you know the Ottomans supported the Germans in WW2. Not a good idea, since the Germans lost.

    I think that should read World War 1!!!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  225. @Monotonous Languor

    Israel? Palestine? Why in the world should anyone be forced to pick either side?”

    For the same reason I don’t live on your land and you don’t live on mine.

  226. @RoatanBill

    Israel is an apartheid police state and I loathe them for it.

    You talk as if apartheid is bad.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  227. Sarah says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why should you get a country?

    Read Theodor Herzl.

    Many — probably most — ethnic and religious groups do not have their own country. Mennonites, Rohingya, Mormons, Bretons, Navajo, Sorbs, Bahai, Keren, Zulus, Biafrans, Circassians, Druze, Basques, Tibetans, Uighers…why should Jews get their own country?

    Rohingya have a country : Bangladesh.
    Mormons is not a nationality but a religion.
    Bretons have a country : Brittany, which is a French province.
    Biafrans wanted be independent but Nigeria exterminated them.
    Basques have a country divided in two provinces : one in Spain, one in France.
    Tibetans have a country : Tibet, which is a province of China.
    Uighurs have a country, which is a Chinese province.

  228. AaronB says:
    @Mevashir

    I’m actually quite happy to share the land with Arab Mulims. We’ve always accepted every partition presented.

    I like the fact that Muslims think this land holy. I’m prepared to share the land with them, even though this is originally Jewish land.

    It is them who don’t accept us.

    If they are forcing an either/or situation, it will be us.

  229. @Reg Cæsar

    Apartheid as a matter of law is bad. The law should treat people equally and is why all the civil rights laws should never have been passed.

    That ethnicities decide to form their own neighborhoods which is a form of apartheid is reasonable as every group does it to feel kinship with members of the same group.

    • Agree: Realist
  230. How is Palestine getting rockets despite a “severe seige”? Answer: it isn’t. Hamas is an Israeli creation. Hamas throws Israeli provided rockets into Israel and lapdog amurka starts hopping around trying to save these parasites. Yeah, Israel is finished because the world gets fed up with jewish behaviour every 100 years.

  231. @AaronB

    ‘I’m actually quite happy to share the land with Arab Mulims. We’ve always accepted every partition presented.’

    Yes — but after you give your word you’re supposed to keep it.

    That bit always goes by you. It did at Versailles, it did in 1947, it did at Camp David, it did in Lebanon in 1982, and it did at Oslo.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  232. @AaronB

    ‘…If they are forcing an either/or situation, it will be us.’

    No more Mister Nice Guy,eh?

    What are you going to do? Shoot the women and children?

    • Replies: @WP
  233. noName says:

    Why do I see this as a setup for a huge Palestinian slaughter plastered with propaganda from sites like this?
    Could it be because the American government has just now given the Israel government three quarters of a billion dollars in new weapons designed specifically to destroy Palestine?

    • Replies: @lydia
  234. @Mevashir

    ‘I think that should read World War 1!!!’

    This is Fran. Perhaps we should take it as stated.

  235. lydia says:

    ISRAEL, PALESTINE
    Gaza Assault Left 400,000 Without Regular Access to Clean Water
    May 25, 2021

    “We stay up all night looking for water to fill plastic buckets,” said one mother in northern Gaza.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2021/05/25/gaza-assault-left-400000-without-regular-access-to-clean-water/

    I have asked on several sites including electronic infantida if israel has lifted the blockade to let in food water and medical supplies. The only answer was from someone on youtube who said israel did but humas refused to let it in but there was no site to go to for verification..

    I would think there would be photos of Palestinians receiving aid — on free palestine omar has been saying that there is only a few hours of electricity a day — there have been some posts begging the people of the world not to forget gaza after the ceasefire because with the blockade and lack of internet access and batteries running down gaza has no way to communicate to the world about the vengence of the israelis. Odd that none of the alternate sites mention this question about receiving humanitarian aid and if western journalists are allowed back in.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  236. Mevashir says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Jesus declared a spiritual jihad against Jewish unbelief and had some extremely harsh things to say about Jewish unbelievers like you. See the following as well as the entire Book of Revelation which describes Jerusalem as Sodom Egypt that murdered the Lord:
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    John 8:44
    New Living Translation
    44 For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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    Luke 19:27
    New Living Translation
    And as for these enemies of mine who didn’t want me to be their king—bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.’
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    Mark 12:1-12
    New International Version
    The Parable of the Tenants(A)
    12 Jesus then began to speak to them in parables: “A man planted a vineyard.(B) He put a wall around it, dug a pit for the winepress and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place. 2 At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants to collect from them some of the fruit of the vineyard. 3 But they seized him, beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 4 Then he sent another servant to them; they struck this man on the head and treated him shamefully. 5 He sent still another, and that one they killed. He sent many others; some of them they beat, others they killed.

    6 “He had one left to send, a son, whom he loved. He sent him last of all,(C) saying, ‘They will respect my son.’

    7 “But the tenants said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.’ 8 So they took him and killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard.

    9 “What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others. 10 Haven’t you read this passage of Scripture:

    “‘The stone the builders rejected
    has become the cornerstone;(D)
    11 the Lord has done this,
    and it is marvelous in our eyes’[a]?”(E)

    12 Then the chief priests, the teachers of the law and the elders looked for a way to arrest him because they knew he had spoken the parable against them. But they were afraid of the crowd;(F) so they left him and went away.
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    Matthew 23:15
    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
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    Matthew 23:33-36
    33“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.
    +++++++++++++
    Matthew 23
    Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees

    13“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] b

    15“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

    16“Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.

    23“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

    25“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

    27“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

    29“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

    33“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.

    37“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

  237. lydia says:

    ILAN launch, by Isaac Assa, a Mexican-Syrian Jewish businessman, to advocate for Israel
    6,348 views•May 27, 2021

  238. @Triteleia Laxa

    Check out the original blog the article was pulled from. It’s maintained by some Hezbollah sympathizer in south Lebanon, though whether he’s (or it might be a she) actually Lebanese or a western expat is unclear. Either way, the detachment from reality is really something to behold. (Check out the post “Jewish Terrorism” lol)

    Anyway, I can accept that the occupation is a bitch. But when pro-Palestinians give uncritical support to Hamas and wish the same (or worse) kind of destruction on Israel and Jews that they accuse Israel of having dealt out to Palestinians, they completely lose me. I think it reveals what their real priorities are.

  239. lydia says:

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/witness-israel-is-provoking-hamas-putting-ceasefire-at-risk/
    WITNESS: MONDAY, MAY 24
    Some headlines from the third day of the ceasefire:

    [MORE]

    Israeli Army Abducts 36 Palestinians, Including 20 in Jerusalem
    Two Palestinians Die from Serious Wounds in Gaza
    Israeli Forces Kill Palestinian Teen in Jerusalem
    Sheikh Jarrah Families Petition Int’l Criminal Court – Endorsed by 191 Orgs
    Report: Israel Issued 155 Administrative Detention Orders Against Palestinians So Far in May
    Palestinian Detainee Continues Hunger Strike for 20th Day
    (Administrative detention (AD) is a practice that Israeli occupation forces apply in order to hold prisoners indefinitely on “secret information” that neither the detainee nor his lawyer may see. AD allows prisoners to be held without charging them or allowing them to stand trial, and can last indefinitely. Its wide use in Israel is a violation of international law.)

    WITNESS: TUESDAY, MAY 25
    A few headlines from the fourth day of the ceasefire:

    Gaza: 4 More Palestinians Found Killed, Buried in Rubble
    Palestinian Dies from Wounds Suffered in Gaza (over 250 Palestinians and 12 Israelis were killed in Gaza since May 10)
    Undercover Israeli Soldiers Kill a Palestinian Near Ramallah
    Israeli Soldiers Injure 2 Palestinian Workers Near Jenin
    Israeli Soldiers Abduct 22 Palestinians in West Bank
    Israeli Army to Demolish 3 Commercial Structures Near Nablus
    Israeli Soldiers Abduct 2 Siblings From Jenin
    Israeli Army Abducts a Palestinian National Security Officer in Jericho
    Israeli Soldiers Abduct 8 Palestinians in Jerusalem
    Israeli Colonists Attack Homes, Uproot Trees, Near Hebron
    WITNESS: WEDNESDAY, MAY 26
    One headline today, the fifth day of the ceasefire, reads,

    Israel Starts Preparations For A New Segregated Road On Palestinian Lands In Salfit
    Another headline, Israeli court postpones decision on Silwan evictions amid crackdown on protest, refers to Silwan, another neighborhood in East Jerusalem that, like Sheikh Jarrah, is facing the possible forced eviction of Palestinians to make room for Jews.

    In addition, today Israeli settlers attacked Palestinians; Israeli soldiers abducted Palestinians, forced Palestinians to demolish their own homes, and invaded the headquarters of the Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PCRS – like the Red Cross), fired gas bombs at medics, and causing a fire.

    According to the report,

    the PRCS slammed Israel’s ongoing and escalating Israeli violations against the Palestinian people, including paramedics, and added that Israeli frequently targets medics to prevent them from performing their humanitarian duties in occupied Palestine.

    Remember these headlines if the rockets start again, and know that Israel has not been innocent.

    ACTION ALERT: Tell Congress: NO MORE MONEY TO ISRAEL. PERIOD.

    Kathryn Shihadah is an editor and staff writer for If Americans Knew.

    She also blogs at Palestine Home.

    ESSENTIAL READING:

    Sheikh Jarrah: How the US media is erasing Israel’s crimes
    Could Biden Be Impeached for Aiding and Abetting Israeli War Crimes?
    Even with ICC investigation looming, Israel refuses to behave itself

  240. (((Hollywood’s Film Actors Guild))) has gone from White Superman – Man Of Steel, to Black Superman – Man Of Steal.
    What’s next?

  241. @WP

    Spoken like a true jew.

    Well that is what I am dick brain, a Jew and a Zionist. You hate Jews pick up a gun or a rocket and join the resistance. You would fit right in. Otherwise STFU.

    • Replies: @WP
  242. Anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    If it were not important, why did Jews had to lie , get the world into wars, destroy European countries , get USA into war and why did Palestine – Arab from the beginning fought against it tooth and nail ?

    Those countries you are showing in the map can be easily visualized as Zionists and the Jews living with wealth and power in France USA and in Russia , Germany and U.K. .
    Why do you need a country ?
    Why if you need one , do you still live there and control the economy politics and media of those countries ?

  243. A123 says:
    @RoatanBill

    The current land in question is palestinian land that was taken by terrorist zionists.

    You are a liar.

    Jewish Palestine was legitimately reclaimed from Muslim terrorists by Palestinian Jews. Such obvious deceit weakens any case you may wish to make.

    all gov’ts are as crooked as a dogs hind leg, then I agree. That some gov’t displaced people isn’t news. What was done to the jews was just as bad as what the jews are currently doing to the palestinians.

    While the government of Jewish Palestine is admittedly imperfect — It is far better than the other options. Why do you not mention how awful Muslims are to “Palestinian” Muslims?

    For example, decades of abuse at the hands of Lebanese Muslims: (1)

    A senior advisor to Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon suggests that Lebanon’s decision to upgrade its Palestinians’ rights may be connected to Israeli PR efforts, including a recent op-ed by Ayalon in The Wall Street Journal.

    Yesterday, Lebanon’s parliament decided to give greater rights of employment to its 400,000 Palestinians, overturning a rule that forbade them from most work opportunities for decades.

    “Parliament approved a law amendment lifting former restrictions on employment for Palestinian refugees, who will now have the right to work in any field open to foreigners with benefits including social security from their own special fund,” a senior official told AFP.

    Jews lobbied Lebanon, and finally Palestinians were upgraded from 3rd class to 2nd class citizens. The Shia camp guards controlling Sunnis in Gaza preside over deplorable conditions, prioritizing only those few who sell out to Iranian Hamas.

    In all of these cases Muslim dominated UN organizations are willfully blind or actively complicit in Muslim abuses aimed at their fellow Muslims.

    Your concern for “Palestinians” would be much more believable if you concentrated on the Muslims and UN agencies who are *by far* the worst violators of human rights.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139186

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  244. @lydia

    I would think there would be photos of Palestinians receiving aid — on free palestine omar has been saying that there is only a few hours of electricity a day — there have been some posts begging the people of the world not to forget gaza after the ceasefire because with the blockade and lack of internet access and batteries running down gaza has no way to communicate to the world about the vengence of the israelis.

    Well now that’s odd. I would have thought things were looking up for Gazans, now that they’re the ones calling the shots after their great victory and all that.

  245. @Reg Cæsar

    They can be the first colonists on Mars but will need endless money from US and Southern Baptists to make Mars green.

  246. A123 says:
    @Mevashir

    No Christian could possibly call Jews, who hate Jesus and say he’s boiling in excrement for eternity and that his mother is a whore, “faithful”.

    99.99%+ of all Jews do not believe this. You are arguing from a false premise because you have been tricked by the followers of Muhammad, Prophet of Lies.

    Violent Islam believes in the Pillar of Taqiyya. Thou shalt lie to the Infidel: (1)

    Quran (3:28) – This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves” against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.

    Quran (9:3) – “…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

    As part of their organized Taqiyya deception, Muslims find and exploit “useful idiots”. They found the one crazy rabbinical nutball who would say something bad about Jesus. Then they misrepresented that blood libel even though no serious Jews and no serious Christians believe it.

    If you accept that obviously made up fiction, an Evil promulgated in the name of Muhammad — You are a “sucker” and “useful idiot” for the Prophet of Lies.

    While Jews do not believe that Jesus is the son of God. They admire his deeds and respect his life. Local boy done good, is not the endorsement that Christians would prefer. However, there is no plausible reason to buy into Violent Islam’s attempt to divide Christians and Jews.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx

    • Troll: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  247. WP says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Who is “us”?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  248. WP says:
    @Colin Wright

    “What are you going to do? Shoot the women and children?”
    For jews the answer is yes, they have no honor.

  249. WP says:
    @Fran Taubman

    How about instead … I hang out along the hiking trails in the mountains of India, waiting until I find and befriend some young zionists “high” up in the mountains (it will assuage my conscience to think of them as your son or daughter), and then after a night of drinking and telling stories around the campfire, straggle them Thuggee style. Would that be OK?
    https://www.tripoto.com/india/trips/why-israelis-in-india-love-india-897940

  250. Meanwhile…

    It turns out we’re dealing with the usual Jewish definition of a ‘ceasefire’: the other side stops shooting, we continue to wage war.

    A list of Jewish provocations since the cease fire:

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/witness-israel-is-provoking-hamas-putting-ceasefire-at-risk/

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  251. Art says:

    I see that Hasbara Central has the GenY Lemming Bigrade, out running today. (You guys and gals are so cute in your little brown shirts.)

    Unlike you Jews, we GenY gentiles have empathy for the living.

    So you little rodents – Please – Please – stay away from the cliffs.

  252. lydia says:
    @Mevashir

    Chapter 10
    Cursed Time for Babylon and Mystery Babylon
    By far, the most important study of Cursed Time is this one dealing with Babylon and Mystery Babylon. To understand Babylon in the light of the knowledge of Cursed Time is one of the most enlightening studies on Bible prophecy that I have ever known. Countless books have been written on the subject of Mystery Babylon, countless sermons preached, but to see how long God has given the world into the hands of this accursed world system—and why—seems to have eluded us. Hopefully, this chapter will shed some light on God’s Plan and Purpose for Babylon in world history.

    Israel “Sold” to Babylon for Eight Years
    When Joshua led Israel into the Promised Land, they conquered it and then divided the land among all the tribes in the seventh year. This was their first rest year in the land. The biblical record does not tell us how old Joshua was at the time, as its chronology is sketchy at this point. So we must turn to the book of Jasher to fill in the details. Jasher 90:32 tells us,

    https://godskingdom.org/studies/books/secrets-of-time/chapter-10-cursed-time-for-babylon-and-mystery-babylon

  253. @WP

    Dar al-Harb. Christendom in particular.

    • Replies: @Druid55
  254. E_Perez says:
    @Sarah

    No, Sarah, he came up with much more. But you are not able to respond.

    Jews cannot argue when their holohoax and “anti-semitism” whinings do no work anymore.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  255. You couldn’t strangle a wet noodle if it was clued to your hand. You are an impotent wannabe brute. That is just a shame. You can get your rocks off taking to me. Sweat dreams.

    (it will assuage my conscience to think of them as your son or daughter),

    • Replies: @WP
  256. @A123

    And you are an obnoxious POS that most around here already recognize. A typical self centered jew.

    You keep wanting to shed responsibility for what the zionists are doing by bringing in other parties. Israel has an open air prison called Gaza. Israel keep bulldozing non jewish areas to clear the way for new settlements of nothing but jews. It cuts down ancient olive groves so the owners have no income to drive them away from their land.

    You people are disgusting and you’ll eventually get what you deserve.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @A123
  257. No mention of al Aqsa mosque.
    Not by Taxi, and not from any of the commenters.
    I’ve spent an adult lifetime being sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, but lately I’m beginning to wonder if anti-Zionism and the Israeli/Palestinian conflict messaging is now being popularised and promoted by secular Jews in the U.S. They seem to harbour such an intense hatred for Likud and Netanyahu and Christian evangelism that it now eclipses their repugnance to Palestinian statehood.
    Fair enough, perhaps. But will it lead to a peaceful resolution, or maybe any resolution?
    Or could Israel share the fate of other U.S. molested nations in the Middle East and descend into endless chaos? Is that an objective that Hamas would share, enroute to some glorious phantasm of “victory”?
    Palestinians are as disunited as the Israelis. Hamas is Muslim brotherhood, which is a sinister organisation indeed. Infamously, Hamas sent cadres to infiltrate the Palestinian refugee camps in Syria to coerce the inhabitants to fight with Isis against the Syrian state. This tale is epic, but not mentioned much. Does the only solution, one state, have any chance of success amid such disunity?
    All this is moot should anything untoward happen to the mosques of al Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock. I’m a traditional Christian and recognise the immense significance to Islam of this holy site.
    In biblical tradition, The Rock is the site where God intervened with Abraham’s intention to sacrifice Isaac. For all three Abrahamic religions it is the most sacred of sites. It would be a wonderful sign if sincere Jews would acknowledge this.
    (Non sequitur, but Taxi – the graphic that accompanies your essay is disgraceful).

    • Replies: @grr
  258. Let us consult the three wise men.

  259. @Malla

    I would recommend to the Ambassador that he stop by Ismail Haniyeh’s office on his way to the ICC, and tell Haniyeh to have the Hamas charter rewritten and leave out the genocide of the Jews Then go to the ICC.

    Do you think the world is stupid? World leaders can read and hear Hamas talk about vanquishing the Jews? Or Nasrallah or the Mullahs in Iran talk about dismantling Israel.
    Yeah good luck with the ICC.

    Israel pulled out of Gaza and took all the settlements away, left greenhouses worth millions to help start a Palestinian economy. What did Israel get? Rockets from Hamas. Hamas went in and tossed the Palestinian policeman off the roof tops of building. If people believed that Hamas would accept Israel as a state for the Jewish people they would negotiate.

    Arafat walked away from Oslo because of the right of return. Arafat wanted 6 million Palestinians the offshoot of 800,000 refugees to return. Not a chance. When the Ambassador’s family left Palestine it didn’t look like Israel today. The Jews built all that infrastructure and made Israel what it is today. That is what the ambassador wants back?

    The Ambassador was wrong Arafat got Jerusalem as the capital of a a Palestinian state at Camp David. What Arafat walked away because of the refugees. But the most important item he walk away from the resolution to “end of conflict”. It was impossible for Arafat or any Palestinian leader to sign an agreement calling for the end of conflict . The Palestinians will not sign on to to the end of conflict. Look there are many sides to this story. The Palestinians negotiate until they get what they want and then proceed terrorist activities.

    The world knows. The Palestinians do not have a snow balls chance in hell of the ICC investigating Israel for war crimes. Start in Gaza then work your way to Israel.

    Look at the countries over there. One failed state after another. If the Jews left tomorrow there they would be fighting anyway. Turkey and the Kurds and the Syrians and Hezbollah and the Suni’s whatever. That is what the Arabs do is fight from one dictator til the next. They Blow up one Mosque and a wedding is blown up as revenge. Leave the Jews out of these crazy people. They are what they are. Just another day in the ME. Israel must hang tough to survive as a normal country. They are not going to give in to a bunch of lunatics that call for the dismantling of Israel and death to the Jews.
    You think this guy is a genius. Fuck off.

  260. E_Perez says:
    @AaronB

    I even accept that Germans had a legitimate”Jewish problem”, although Nazism was an insane overreaction.

    Interesting, Aaron!

    It would have been phantastic to hear more about that “legitimate Jewish problem” of the Germans. From a Jew, not from any UNZ-commenters, who all agree on that, anyway.

    To start you: could it be that not only the ugly Nazis had that “legitimate Jewish problem” but others as well, including Europeans and the Anglo-Saxons today – the same who fought for your occupation of Palestine?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  261. TKK says:
    @Da's Reich

    He wasn’t suffocated. His legs were thrashing at the end. If that video shocked you, do you tear up at Disney movies as well? Tampax commercials? What do you think the reaction should be toward someone who is trying to kill you? A snack and a good scolding?

    Reality Check: Israel has lawyers, good ones, that represent Palestinians everyday. For free. You are not just snatched off the street in Israel without due process.

    You can make the case that American Jews are behind the cultural rot in America, but Israeli Jews are different. Most of them are not rich, they work, get married, have children and mind their own business.

    The only people I have met traveling over the world who routinely beat children are Muslim males, and American blacks, both male and female.

  262. The sentiments of this post express hopium that may or may not turn out as predicted — same as the 1948, 1967, … ‘great wars’ which simply allowed Israeli expansion policy to take its next logical steps.

    All this huff and puff may sooth fractured nerves but it does little more than give the Israeli state the trigger finger option to interpret any false falg as justification of another push towards a final solution.
    The wisdom of this narrative is debatable.

    However, before launching into some woke-ish “palestinian lives matter” mantra it is worth looking at the situation historically.

    “We shall soon enough see a costly but heroic and historic return of the nation of Palestine: from the river to the sea” simply avoids the basic facts that there never was in any half recent history a “Palestinian nation”. The region is a historical disputed cross-roads goinf back to Egyptians and Hittites; Romans and Greeks; Babylonians and Persians — and more recently Ottomans and Arabs and 19-20th century European colonial empires.

    The demolition of the British “Mandatory Palestine” (1920-48) has been one continuous project/process implemented in stages always preceded by war-law ‘justifying’ hostilties provoked by one side or the other. The 1948-49 Green Line became a defacto administrative boundary within which “expanding and pushing Arabs out of their homes and lands” occurred after hostilities ceased. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Israel)

    It is highly likely that different Arab strategies in/after 1948-49 would have resulted in Israel today remaining boxed into the green-line zone — possibly as an unsustainable “Gaza” without a participating local Arab population. The expansion justification was always engineered through ‘winning’ war and various generally accepted conquest principles. This ‘loosers pattern’ seems to about to be repeated.

    Israel is not a nation either — it is better framed as a modern version of the British East India Company that weasled its way into the Indian sub-continent before being officially obsorbed into British state structure. This is why I find these recent ‘nation’ narratives suspect.

  263. Malla says:
    @AaronB

    And are you disputing that the Nazis wanted to conquer Slavic lands

    Yes. It is very controversial. There have been many debates on this on other pages.

    Nazism was an insane overreaction

    I think, all they wanted was Jews out of Europe. They were even looking for “good Jews” or the percentage of the Jewish population who would not behave in “typical Jewish ways” and thus could live happily in Germany/ Europe. That is why 200000 semi Jews and Jews fought for the Third Reich. But the problem was Jewish tribalism, difficulty in making apart these “Good Jews” from the “bad Jews”, the menacing behaviour of International Jewry etc… making things worse. Recently I have problems getting material on the internet but I remember reading a letter by some German Jewish organisation to American Jews to refrain from anti-German actions as this would make things even worse and that they believed that they could come with a reasonable deal with Hitler.

    Anyways except the extreme anti-Jewish part (which is controversial) and anti-Slavic part (which is controversial too), National Socialism seemed like a good idea to run a nation. Basically employing modern technology and avoiding the negative sides of modern “culture” at the same time. Fusing the classes together in such a way that class struggle becomes obsolete as the classes understand each other and act as a single unit as well as the Government intervening to solve inter class issues. After all class is a more fake classification as compared to Folk. Also smartly combining elements of Socialism and free market, of modernism and traditionalism. These are things I admire about them the most.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  264. @Art

    All the goys will be expelled from Manhattan and it will be deemed the New Jerusalem,
    a home for all the Jews booted out of the Middle East. Although some may insist on heading south to Boca.

  265. @Fran Taubman

    Ho hum. Can Fran get through a single post without lying? Compare and contrast:

    Fran:

    ‘…Israel pulled out of Gaza and took all the settlements away, left greenhouses worth millions to help start a Palestinian economy…’

    Mondoweiss:

    ‘…According to the New York Times, two months prior to the withdrawal, in July of 2005, Israeli settlers demolished about half of the greenhouses, “creating significant doubts that the greenhouses could be handed over to the Palestinians as ‘a living business.’” There are other reports that rather than leave their greenhouses behind for the Palestinians some settlers decided to burn them to the ground.
    Notwithstanding the destruction that had already been wrought, wealthy American philanthropists led by the Gates foundation and James Wolfensohn, the US Special Envoy for Gaza Disengagement, bought the remaining greenhouses from the Israeli settlers on behalf of the Palestinians in Gaza for \$14 million…’

    • Agree: Wielgus
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  266. @TKK

    ‘…You are not just snatched off the street in Israel without due process…’

    You might not be. Palestinians most certainly are.

  267. @TKK

    ‘…The only people I have met traveling over the world who routinely beat children are Muslim males, and American blacks, both male and female.’

    Now this is peculiar. I have traveled in five different Muslim countries, for a total of perhaps three months, and I didn’t see a single Muslim male beating a child.

    …and yet they do it ‘routinely.’ What are the odds?

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  268. Anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    Hmmm. That photo sorta looks like Warsaw after the 1943 Jew Intifada:

    So…do Juden finally admit that 1933-45 Germany had a right to be an Aryan State?

    Do Jews accept that Odin gave ALL of the Reich to Germans?

    Do Zionist also agree that Adolf, Inc. had a right to ALL Lebensraum?

    Jews were booted 109 times from civilized nations. If you get bounced from 109 bars, who has the problem?

    Israelo delenda est!

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  269. @Priss Factor

    Maybe we should call it, “Dia de los Muertos”……

  270. @Nostradamus

    Good God. That video of that child being strangled to death by that Israeli policeman. Beyond evil. If the MSM weren’t such sold out shits, this would be making front page news around the world.

  271. @Fran Taubman

    Look at the countries over there. One failed state after another. If the Jews left tomorrow there they would be fighting anyway. Turkey and the Kurds and the Syrians and Hezbollah and the Suni’s whatever. That is what the Arabs do is fight from one dictator til the next. They Blow up one Mosque and a wedding is blown up as revenge. Leave the Jews out of these crazy people. They are what they are. Just another day in the ME. Israel must hang tough to survive as a normal country. They are not going to give in to a bunch of lunatics that call for the dismantling of Israel and death to the Jews.

    Basically, Israelis are, like the West, domesticated. In Alexander’s time, he was always looking over his shoulder, and rightly so. He’s alleged to have been poisoned. What isn’t debatable is that his family was slaughtered after he died of ill-health or was killed. The lack of such threats to current Western leaders (vs the specter haunting men like Marius, Caesar, et al) is why Western military units are free to be all they can be. In Arabia, leaders have to worry about ending up like this guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisal_II_of_Iraq#14_July_Revolution

    Or, if lucky enough to be viewed as harmless, like this guy:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farouk_of_Egypt#Overthrow

    Endless tomes have been written on why Rome fell. You have to wonder how much related to the appointment of incompetents by absolute rulers who chose unthreatening sycophants as an insurance policy. Better to have a badly-run empire than to risk having their kin massacred if they recruited a competent but ruthless viper into their ranks that attacked them at a moment of maximum vulnerability.

  272. Occupied Palestine goes ‘sexy

    …so you and I are supposed to forget about Palestine and Palestinians…

    side note: I used both hands typing this

  273. @Colin Wright

    Yeah you and Mondoweiss really got the truth. Ho hum.

    • LOL: A123
  274. @Anonymous

    ‘Hmmm. That photo sorta looks like Warsaw after the 1943 Jew Intifada…’

    Your photo must be after the 1944 rebellion when the gentiles rose up. Repressing the Jews in 1943 didn’t require much.

  275. @Mevashir

    What about this older video of child-killer at work while Palestinian women try to save the child from the killer’s clutches? They’re all trying to save Palestinian children, eh?



    Video Link

  276. RobinG says:
    @Andreas

    Petition to #Australia’s Parliament to introduce targeted #sanctions against #Apartheid #Israel. Petitions with over 20,000 signatures are announced by Parliament. Show parliament where the #Australian community stands and demand action. Please share.

    Petition EN2715 – Sanction Israel

    https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN2715?fbclid=IwAR1Ha2_gfWXRHLExCmuNMcXK9w9KgnT_mF-044tBdvKMBFFgI6xkQr_Y-Pc

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  277. grr says:
    @bayviking

    You have no clue, not one.
    Or you do, and are actually an IDF coward from unit 8200 shitting your diapers and typing bluff and false bravado to make up for your well known shortcomings.

  278. grr says:
    @Australian lady

    Your nickname is dishonest; I have searched for years and have never ever found an Australian lady.
    Just opinionated bogans & Karen’s, US style evangelicals (you), and loud mouthed heifers.
    What is disgraceful is your belief system, a grown up believing in the sky fairy.

  279. @Malla

    Thanks, Malla.

    The UK media obviously thinks that interrupting/shouting down the Ambassador they have done their duty for their owner Mr Rothschild.

    Like the swarm of zio-trolls on this thread.

    None of them supports the ongoing genocide, they are all humane (some “christian” and buddhist lol) and want you to believe that they condemn IDF slaughter.
    But of course they want the IDF to carry on … slaughtering Palestinians …
    And it’s the Palestinians’ fault for having the cheek to object to the invading Jews stealing their homes and land and wiping them out.

    It’s all very Jewish …
    The pedophile Woody Allen could hardly do better than these ghouls.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
    , @Malla
  280. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    The Turkish ones I know not only love their kids but are a little apt to spoil them.

  281. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    The mysterious Vela incident was almost certainly Israel, South Africa or a combination of the two.

  282. @Colin Wright

    Thanks for a useful news site.

    A pie-chart shows the number of people killed since Sept 29 2000 —

    Israelis 1 277
    Palestinians 10 056

    This does not include those killed in the Israeli bombing of the King David Hotel, or of the World Trade Center, Deir Yassin, USS Liberty, President Kennedy, Sec of State Forrestal, Count Folke Bernadotte, Lord Moyne and so on.

    Perhaps it does include that poor child strangled by the heroic police officer.

    PS You’re wasting your time debating with zio-trolls.

  283. chris says:

    Therefore, what we have now is Gaza’s improved rocketry checking Israel from within, …

    Regarding this argument which has been made by a number of authors, I just want to point out the fact that it is well in Israel’s interest to let a number of these rockets land and to cause destruction, in order to play the victim card and justify any level of response they think they can get away with politically. (Also in order to rally support for hate at home).

    Until recently, this was virtually unlimited, but it does seem to begin turning now. One reason is also the fact that in the absence of Trump on the political stage and his role as lightning rod, the scenery now is one wholly owned by progressives and such brutality is a blot on their self image; though in reality progressively changing society implies a constant level of bullying and brutality against all resistors.

  284. @AnonStarter

    ‘White fragility’ will do that…

  285. @Arthur MacBride

    It’s the indigenous Palestinians fault because they are Arabs.
    That’s the point made by zio-trolls.

    They are despotic and corrupt, not like Jews …

    But even Jews recognise that Jews are the greatest mass-murderers in history … yes but does that make them “despotic” say the zio-trolls, bringing in Rabbi’s to debate (has to be the right Rabbi of course, not that Neturei Karta guy …)

    … as to corrupt, take a look at the prime outstanding example of America, which might have developed (“might” is the word) as a half-decent country until the parasite Jew invaded and perverted it in every sense, moral, financial etc.
    Look at “the west” …

    Also those terrible Arabs get married and have children.
    “Breed like vermin” is how a charming zio-troll put it ..

    Yes, how they and we all should be out for the Tell Aviv “Gay” Parade … shirtlifters, pedophiles are not repulsive/disgusting, you need to be educated …

    One question the world will be asking after (hopefully soon) the Palestinians reclaim their ancestral home is can it be advisable to allow Jews free access to society ?
    Should there be some restriction b/c their history, and particularly in the last century since 1897 ? An old question which inevitably will come up due to their vicious perverse conduct to non-Jews demonstrated yet again as so many times before …

    • Agree: Malla
  286. AaronB says:
    @Malla

    Sure, without the extreme anti Slavic and anti Jewish part, and the conquering Europe and setting up a thousand year Reich part, national socialism wasn’t so bad.

    Personally, I would not have liked the extreme regimentation of the population, if I was German, but that’s just me.

    But certainly, national socialism had its good points, as all things do.

    The anti Jewish thing was too extreme, though. Hitler even diverted resources away from the war and towards exterminating Jews. Not smart.

    It’s similar to how White Nationalists on this site focus on hating Jews and Israel, rather than building up their cause, allying with Islamist Jihadis who hate them and use them, and completely unlike European nationalists, who are a more sober bunch.

    But when, like Hitler, you believe you are in some kind of eternal fight with Jews, who you think are the enemy of mankind, you start making stupid decisions. That’s life.

  287. AaronB says:
    @E_Perez

    Yes, Jews were too powerful and influential in all the nations of Europe. That’s why Jews needed their own country.

    Putting Jews in camps and exterminating them, and the whole thing about Jews being the eternal enemies of Aryans, was an insane overreaction, but I think any fair minded person can admit that Germany had a Jewish problem.

    I am a supporter of Hilaire Beloc kind of “anti-semitism” – nothing wrong with Jews, but they should be powerful and influential in their own nation. But the anti-Semites of Unz are apocalyptic anti-Semites, heirs to Hitler.

    Now we’re being told we can’t even have our own nation. Well, that won’t end well…

    At some point, you just have to make a stand.

    • Replies: @Mouse
    , @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  288. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    99.99%+ of all Jews do not believe this. You are arguing from a false premise because you have been tricked by the followers of Muhammad, Prophet of Lies.

    Again you are wrong. The quote about Jesus in boiling excrement is from the Babylonian Talmud, which is more important in Jewish life even than the Torah.

    There are many scurrilous Talmudic passages denouncing Jesus his family and Christianity. In the Middle Ages the Catholic Church repressed these passages and forced Jews to censor them. But they were preserved in other writings. And now inside the Zionist regime Jews are confident that they can insult Jesus with impunity and modern versions of the Talmud have been produced that restore these passages. I have studied from one such edition, called the Steinsaltz Talmud.

    Many Jews do admire Jesus, but my point is the official position of Orthodox Judaism, which is the state religion of the Zionist regime, is that Jesus was an evil person who deserved to die, a sorcerer who misled Israel deliberately, son of a whore, and a rebel against his rabbinical teachers. See the Letter to Yemen by Maimonides pages iii, iv, xvii that boasts of the role of Israel’s leaders in having Jesus put to death:
    https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Epistle_to_Yemen/Complete

    Orthodox Jews also consider Christianity to be an idolatrous Faith because people worship Christ but Islam to be a pure monotheistic faith. Jewish law permits a Jew to worship inside a mosque but not even to step inside a church.

    Given your distortions and lies about the Jewish religion, I can only assume you are doing the same about Islam. You sign every one of your screeds with the word PEACE and an icon with a Halo on it. But Liars like you destroy peace and certainly won’t receive it from God.

    You are very slick and confident in your presentation, however, which makes me sure that you’re some kind of disinformation professional. May the Lord God of Israel unmask you to all the world and put you on your knees at the foot of the cross so Jesus’ blood can drip down on top of you and wash you clean of your devious evil nature. Until that happens, here’s my salute to you:
    https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/189801226_116377443959035_4692508679851599038_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=djIYBnmAqkkAX_x8tr2&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&tp=14&oh=93887a42b052534715ad8d2b2aba1bb5&oe=60D5CDDF

    • Agree: Druid55
    • Replies: @A123
    , @Fran Taubman
  289. @Fran Taubman

    I did ask about the context, and looking back at my comment I regret using the phrase “The Jews are one sick bunch of motherfuckers” because I cannot in conscience, ever agree with the idea of an entire grouping of people having the same ideas or attributes,

    However,

    The deaths of Palestinian children at the hands of the Israeli state is hardly a new thing or indeed a rare occurrence.

    • Replies: @A123
  290. @Mevashir

    I did ask about the context

  291. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Look, if you’re going to ignore the public and formal acceptance of the Jewish community of all partition deals, and you’re going to ignore the formal and public rejection by the Arab community, and claim there is some secret history only you know, then there’s little point talking.

    The good thing about the Arabs is that there is no secrecy. They openly rejected the partition deal. They open invaded the new state of Israel. Hamas openly declares they reject the two stare solution and want to destroy Israel and put an Islamist state in its stead.

    If you’re just going to retreat into fantasy, and believe whatever feels good, enjoy yourself. I don’t blame you. Reality can be tough. Have a great time in dream world – but I’m going to have to sign off here, thanks

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  292. @TKK

    I did ask about the context and looking back at my comment I do regret using the phrase “The Jews are one sick bunch of motherfuckers” as it is clearly unfair to blame an entire race of people on the actions of some of their compatriots,

    And no I do not tear up at movies or Tampax commercials 🙂

    Killing Palestinian children is hardly new to the IDF or to the Israeli security services.

  293. @A.K.Patal

    Only Israelis and their tools use the term “settlers”.
    They are land thieves, stealing land settled and owned for millennia before the torrent of lies passing for jewish “history”.

  294. Calling the shots” can be taken in two ways …

    If Luc Montagnier (AIDS – Nobel Prizer) is right that almost all of those who just got COVID-19 vaxxed will be dead within 2 years, well isn’t it ironic that most Israelis got the vaccine, while the Palestinians (for whatever reasons, fair or unfair) did not.

    Perhaps all the Palestinians need do now is just wait a year or two for their dream to come true!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  295. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    As part of their organized Taqiyya deception, Muslims find and exploit “useful idiots”. They found the one crazy rabbinical nutball who would say something bad about Jesus. Then they misrepresented that blood libel even though no serious Jews and no serious Christians believe it.

    As I explained, it is not “one crazy rabbinical nutball” that says something bad about Jesus. This is the official viewpoint of the Orthodox Jewish Zionist State religion.

    In fact Israel is the only country on Earth whose official position on Jesus is that he was evil wicked and deserved to die. No other Nation so hates and disparages the Son of God. Certainly not Islam and not Hinduism Buddhism Confucianism or Taoism. Israel stands alone in its insolent defiance of Jesus. That makes it The Antichrist religion par excellence.

    If you are a Christian (which seems doubtful to me) do you think Israel can adopt a hostile attitude to The Savior with impunity and not suffer severe Divine repercussions? All of Israel’s afflictions today are due to its hostile stance against Jesus. Many Israeli leaders admire Jesus and Christianity, but so long as they bow to Orthodox Judaism and give it official state sanction to malign Jesus their Nation is under a horrible Divine curse.

    People of Goodwill all across the world can only pray that God will remove the veil covering the heart and eyes of Jewish people and allow them to see that the Orthodox rabbis have lied to them about their Messiah. Here are some Jewish people who have merited to see the truth praise be to the Lord God of Yisrael:
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXiBkdTbRi-w8BfqcbofzArYbHdHbG34k
    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXiBkdTbRi-wmDEU85JJcZbqDw8RoOxOc

  296. Mouse says:
    @AaronB

    Hi Aaron, something you may find interesting:

    I have been visiting on and off a lot many “fringe” right- and left-wing sites for years, mostly because the discussion on these fringe sites is more uncensored and therefore genuine. There are often somewhat good arguments for all sides, you know! However, almost everytime it is about the Jews or Israel, I find myself being “won over” by some Jewish commenter (like you), because these turn out to be more intelligent, less delusional and even more polite. So, carry on! All that effort is not wasted!

    (This, when I too am sick of the bleeding-heart liberals who have overrun the mainstream in the West, and who too often turn out to be Jewish.)

    • Thanks: AaronB
  297. Mevashir says:
    @AaronB

    I am a supporter of Hilaire Beloc kind of “anti-semitism” – nothing wrong with Jews, but they should be powerful and influential in their own nation. But the anti-Semites of Unz are apocalyptic anti-Semites, heirs to Hitler.

    You’ve got it backwards Aaron. Belloc was a very devout Catholic and Catholics did not support Zionism until very recently and even now only with great reluctance. German American French and English Jews consider those countries to be their nations and therefore that their power and privilege is perfectly justified.

    Furthermore it was Hitler who took concrete steps to force Jews into a separate country. So if you think having your own country is a good thing, please show some gratitude. I’ve long believed that placing a statue of Hitler in the Israeli knesset building, or even next to the Western wall, would be an appropriate tribute to his visionary embrace of Zionism!

    I’m surprised you’ve even heard of Belloc. Given the appalling state of Israel’s education system how did you learn about this obscure if influential writer? Most Israelis reduce 2,000 years of European history to four events: the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, Russian Pogroms, and the Holocaust. Everything else to them are just minor details!

    And of course the ultra-Orthodox Jüden have their own independent school system that doesn’t teach secular topics at all. Their View of the world around them and its history is very simple. All Gentiles are evil and should be tolerated only to the extent necessary for Jewish survival.

    So please enlighten us how you learned about Hilaire Belloc, someone that most Catholics in the world don’t even know about.

    Toda Robber.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  298. @A123

    OK, it seems there are some (infinitisemally few) here who claim that it is the Palestinians who were practising Apartheid in the first place on Jews while others (the majority) claim the reverse.

    Let’s get the opinion of someone who doesn’t have an axe to grind for an objective appraisal:

    Interesting also to watch the Twitter exchange between Hillary Clinton and Sacha Baron Cohen (aka Borat), in the last minute of the video above – especially for those of you who don’t know what sort of person SBC really is.

    Spoiler Alert: SBC is a piece of SH*T.

    • Replies: @A123
  299. A123 says:
    @RoatanBill

    I am a Christian. Let me paraphrase you own words.

    That you can simply make up stuff, like I’m Jew, means you have no credibility. Islam is an apartheid religion and I loathe them for it.

    No amount of defending Muslim Apartheid will ever make it acceptable in the civilized world.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @anon
  300. anon[827] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charlesz Martel

    Another hasabara – Israel is doing this , Israel is doing that, Israel is saving the world.
    Israel has found cures of these diseases , has found new maskfor Covid new tests for Covid, has donated Haiti ‘s cituzen victims of earthquakes and diseases . The list goes on and on . It even includes the claims of finding ways to decompose plastics and styrofoam or analyse behavior patterns to detect terrorists before they syrike ( on this one they must have used their own data derived from their synagigue congregeations and cabinet meetings ) . They even tell themselves after US stopped listening that the ME war or Iraq war woukd have succeeded had Bush Chebey listened to the next sermon Richard Perle was delivering . Now those bastards are sucking up to China with flowers and history book claiming shared civilizational values,interests,ethics,morality,andeven cure for the decomposing world (made possible by the bastard themselves). Long ago one of their bastards bragged about democracy and enlightenment as being part of Zionism while in the next sentrnce remiding the Arab- ‘ Great powers are behind us’. Now his incestous offsprings from AEI , AIPAC, FDD , David Project and from Unit 800 of settler garrison wretched country Israel talk about reaching out and capturing the emerging new great power like China.

    Stand on your own. At least try .

    By the way if China folllows the advices of Richard Perle ( its a metaphor, a default description of the Ziocon bastard ) , its fate is already then sealed even before listening to the advice.

    China will face the future of Weimer , Soviet,20 th century British and of post 2003 USA if China turned to Zionist for rescue or for help or for shared interests or for common fields of work space . Zionist only bring destruction and death from within.

    That is written on the wall where Ziobastard wants to hang the Chinese – Israeli certificateof its honesty and autheticity. Zio is neither , neither honest,nor authetic Its a parasite.

    China knows it. They know the Jewish history the West is even afraid of thinking that it – the history might exist .

    China knows how Germany was destroyed,Soviet was parasitized , Yeltsin ‘s Russia was looted and Britain was destroyed . They now see the game replayed in USA.

    ( did you miss the Chinese frustration at USA for blocing UN resolution ? Did you fail to notice how Israel reverted to age -old ,frayed ,and hackneyed tactics of accusation of anti semitism when China told the world that Jewish money and threats were preventing USA from doing whats rights ?)

    By the way ,now quoting Israeli leaders is seen as anti semite

    calling Israel apartheid state is anti semitims.Does China live in Mars?

  301. Mevashir says:
    @AaronB

    https://www.unz.com/book/hilaire_belloc__the-jews/#chapter-xi-zionism

    I apologize to you Aaron. After posting my comment I recalled that Unz himself has promoted Belloc. Belloc was unusually prescient for a Catholic. Virtually the whole Catholic World opposed the idea of Zionism. You may know that Theodore Herzl and other early Zionist leaders approached Popes Pius X and Benedict XV seeking their support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine and both rebuffed him harshly.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  302. anon[333] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    Hitler was a Christian. Lord Army of Uganda is Christian . Bush is one .Bush jr actually became one before murdering millions for the Christ tormentors Jews and for the destroyers of the western civilizations that is Jews .Still he has not learned . He even doesn’t have the courage to admit that he was mounted from behind by the Zionist. It still hurts but he doesn’t want his mind to be reminded . Now he follows the lines of FDD ADL AIPAC Herzilya on Iran. Very bad. Pompeo said Trump was sent to save Israel. Pompeo told that he lied stole and made things up. Long ago Admiral Moore, Senator Galbriath, Barry Goldwater, Dulles ,President Nixon, Bush Sr , Iran’s Shah , Malaysia Mahatir, and recently China reminded the dangers of allowing the Zionist near the center of the power or finances or administration . Thousands before them have warned us throughout the known history of humankind.

    What did Meneachem Begin say when someone told him of the anti-Semitic theme of the evangelical end timers? He like a shrewd unethical Jew told that he would come out with a gun to support Jesus when he descends on earth to kill and convert the Jews . He is just like you . He was hiding behind the myth fervently held by the stupid Zionist Christian to secure his real estate and expel the centuries old residents . He was looking at the mix and was separating the real ingredients from the salad bowl of myth ,misdeeds, opportunities and theft . He focussed on the myth but grabbed the rest.

    Now AJC and Interfaith and DMFI are trying to reach out to Muslim blacks Latinos leftist in order to modify them to their desires and selfish illegal interests.

    Read —-https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2019/12/17/the-democratic-majority-for-israel-is-the-last-gasp-of-the-bipartisan-consensus-on-israel/

    https://www.ampalestine.org/newsroom/ajc-calls-muslims-a-%E2%80%98demographic-threat-%E2%80%99-actively-involved-islamophobic-activities

    https://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html-

    And read this –How American citizen and influencer sabotaged American interests be cause he had some Zionst DNA:
    “In March 1977, for example, Henry Kissinger invited the Israeli ambassador, Simcha Dinitz, to dinner. According to an Israeli report of the conversation, Kissinger took his guest aside and stated that as a Jew, he could not go on if he did not share certain information. Carter, he said, had told President Sadat of Egypt that the US would get Israel to retreat to the 1967 borders and to agree to the establishment of a Palestinian state. Dinitz asked Kissinger what he thought Israel should do to counter this threat. “Organize forces in the US and Israel,” counseled the man who had been Secretary of State less than two months before, “Don’t appear too hawkish, but be determined. The trick is to fight Carter’s plans in a resolute manner.” https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/05/19/the-best-thing-jimmy-carter-ever-did/

    See how the jailing of these 2 criminals could have saved USA:
    “Perle was said to have been recorded by the FBI for leaking classified information to Israel (per mainstream sources) “but was never prosecuted.” While Douglas Feith was fired from NSC in 1982 “because he’d been the object of an inquiry into whether he’d provided classified material to an official of the Israeli Embassy in Washington.” (Counterpunch, 2004)).” They should have served times in penitentiary .

    That applies to Kagan Kristol Podohoretz Goldberg Miller Wolfowitz , Duvosky, Shedlon and many more .

  303. Some people are claiming that there is a connection between 9/11 and the Israeli/Arab Wars/Palestinian conflict, that goes back as far as 1968.

    Honestly, how crazy must be you be to believe that, seeing as the World Trade Centre towers hadn’t even been built in 1968. You’d have to be some sort Conspiracy Kook to believe that, right ?

    That said, I came across this photo of Commemorative Medal issued by Israel in 1968 to honour the 1967 war:

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    https://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.israelidecorations.net/Other/SixDayWarCommemorativeMedals/SixDayWar_19f.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.israelidecorations.net/Other/SixDayWarCommemorativeMedals.htm&tbnid=st6gRZaTrGkpYM&vet=1&docid=yBUIZa9QLlxAfM&w=1128&h=1104&hl=en-au&source=sh/x/im

    Hmmm, nothing unusual about it I guess.

    There’s a tank in it – and tanks were indeed used in that war.
    There’s a plane in it – and military aircraft did play a decisive role in that event.

    AND, there is what looks like a partially opened Talmudic scroll to the right – and we know the significance of the Talmud for Jews.

    Hang on a second. Those scrolls on the right sure do remind me of something else.

    And the plane that seems to be approaching the scrolls, sure does look like a wide bodied aircraft with four jet engines.
    I wasn’t aware that the Israeli Air Force deployed any B-52 equivalent type of military aircraft in the Six Day War.

    Actually, they did NOT.

    They deployed Dassault Mirage fighters similar to these (same aircraft they used to intentionally strafe the USS Liberty):

    I would’ve thought that a depiction of the Dassault Mirage on the medal would have been far more appropriate (in light of its pivotal role), than something that looks like a wide bodied commercial aircraft.

    Then again, what do I know ?

    So what’s so special about the year 1968 – the year this commemorative medal was issued by the Israelis ?

    It was the year George W Bush graduated from Yale.
    It was the year that 9-1-1 was made the emergency dialling code.
    It was the year that construction began on the World Trade Centre Twin Towers.

    To that we could add:
    It was the last full year of the tenure of the first Jewish President (LBJ) – a President without whom the Six Day war would never have eventuated. (Upon the death of JFK, LBJ immediately did a 180 degree reversal of U.S foreign policy and sent a deluge of the latest U.S weaponry and technology to the Israelis – both conventional and nuclear).
    It was the year that MLK Jr and RFK were murdered (and there is a ton of circumstantial evidence to suggest that, if the order to kill didn’t come down from the very top then, at a VERY MINIMUM, LBJ had foreknowledge of said assassinations and gave the green light to proceed).

    All of this seems a bit suspicious to me – or is it just one big coincidence ? Am I reading too much into this ?

    What do you think readers ?

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
    , @Mevashir
  304. Malla says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Yes, that Channel 4 news anchor (of South Indian origin, he was on BBC World earlier) was acting like an asshole, interrupting at every turn and trying to blame the Palestinians for everything. Husam Zomlot spoke logically, rationally and stuck to his guns.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  305. A123 says:
    @Da's Reich

    Even strident anti-Israel groups, such as Defense for Children International – Palestine [DCIP] are forced to admit that tragic Muslim friendly fire incidents are taking place: (1)

    a homemade rocket fired by a Palestinian armed group fell short and killed eight Palestinians, including two children. The rocket landed in Saleh Dardouna Street near Al-Omari Mosque in Jabalia, North Gaza, according to evidence collected by DCIP. Mustafa Mohammad Mahmoud Obaid, 16, was killed in the blast, and five-year-old Baraa Wisam Ahmad al-Gharabli succumbed to his injuries around 11 p.m. on May 10.

    Palestinian security sources and explosives experts indicated the cause of this explosion was a Palestinian armed group rocket that fell short. Another 34 Palestinian civilians were injured in the blast, including 10 children, according to DCIP’s documentation.

    The IDF captured a particularly inept Hamas ” friendly fire” failure (below).
    ___

    In the Hamas Offensive of 2021, more children died at the hands of Islam than were killed by Israel. This is hardly a new thing or indeed a rare occurrence.

    If you are sincere in your desire to protect children. Getting rid of the Hamas child killers should be your #1 priority.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.dci-palestine.org/nine_children_killed_in_gaza_strip_as_violence_escalates

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
  306. Realist says:
    @RoatanBill

    The jews have been exiled from numerous places. It’s not credible to believe it was always without cause.

    Yes, their exile is well deserved.

  307. Goyboy says:
    @AnonStarter

    If it has been accepted that many Hamas rockets flew deep into Israel, doesn’t that suggest that the iron dome was not effective because the Hamas rockets would have been intercepted very quickly after being launched?

    Aye, you wouldn’t want to be a Jew living in occupied Palestine these days. Or for that matter those also living in Israel.

    And get your hands off historical Christian and Muslim sites if you know what is good for you.

    • Replies: @A123
  308. “We shall soon enough see a costly but heroic and historic return of the nation of Palestine: from the river to the sea.

    No stopping now the winds of change that favor the suffering Palestinians.”

    I do not want to deflate your sail on the high seas of optimism but I must for the sake of your own sanity… I am afraid Israel isn’t going anywhere, not now and certainly not in the future.

  309. A123 says:
    @Mevashir

    Ultra literal translation of past works is a failure of only one large group…. Islamists. That is why the Whabbi are so intractable.

    If there was a group that applied such literalism to the Bible, they would also be very scary. There are some really grim edicts in the Old Testament / Talmud:

    1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and attack the Amalekites and devote to destruction all that belongs to them. Do not spare them, but put to death men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

    Given that neither Jews nor Christians believe in genocide as an act of faith, it is obvious to anyone serious that your blood libel against Judeo-Christians does not hold up.
    ____

    If you are a “useful idiot” deceived by the lies of Islam. Seek absolution for your transgressions.

    Given the weakness & desperation of your transparent lies. It is much more likely that you are a paid Iranian propaganda corps operative. And, very bad at your job.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  310. A123 says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Actors are not terribly credible sources. And, given the political bias of Hollywood, they are not objective.

    The less said about Hillary Rodham Clinton the better.

    PEACE 😇

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  311. Mevashir says:
    @Mevashir

    https://www.unz.com/book/hilaire_belloc__the-jews/

    We could go even further and assert that Belloc’s essay on the Jewish Problem — with his hesitant endorsement of Zionism — is an excellent example of why Zionism is as much a Christian as it is a Jewish project. There are two kinds of detractors of Israel on this thread. Secular people who hate all religion and Muslim sympathizers. But please don’t pretend that Zionism is a uniquely Jewish project. It is a partnership between Jews and most branches of Christendom. Amen

  312. AaronB says:
    @Mevashir

    Hilaire Beloc is an ineresting thinker in that he was very clear eyed about a variety of matters.

    He was quite clear eyed and honest about Jewish independence in Palestine – he frankly stated that Muslims despise Jews and feel they have to dominate them, and so would never accept Jewish independence. This is basically the Hamas charter – Muslims must rule over Jews and Christians.

    A clearer eyed and more honest summary of this entire conflict could not be made.

    Beloc was, at least, honest.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @RSDB
  313. Mevashir says:
    @A123


    READ IT AND WEEP LYING MORON

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  314. @Z-man

    One of their own brightest star, Elon Musk, is doing exactly that, which is to say, he and his ilk are going to drain the best resources of the earth/goyim to get themselves to a distant planet. Bon Voyage!

  315. lydia says:

    BETHLEHEMHEBRONISRAELI ATTACKSJENINJERUSALEMNEWS REPORTQALQILIARAMALLAHWEST BANK
    Israeli Army Abducts 36 Palestinians, Including 20 In Jerusalem
    MAY 24, 2021

    Israeli soldiers abducted, Monday, 35 Palestinians from several parts of the occupied West Bank, including 20 in occupied Jerusalem, after the army invaded and ransacked dozens of homes.

    Media sources said the soldiers conducted violent searches of homes and interrogated many Palestinians while inspecting their ID cards, before abducting the 34 Palestinians.

    The army also summoned a few Palestinians for interrogation at several military bases in the West Bank, including Jerusalem. The names of seventeen of the Palestinians who were abducted in Jerusalem have been verified.

    It is worth mentioning that one of the abducted Palestinians, Khattab Ibrahim Thawabta, 24, from Beit Fajjar town, near Bethlehem, underwent surgery just a few days ago and was still recovering at home.

    The soldiers also assaulted many Palestinians in Sheikh Jarrah, in occupied Jerusalem, causing injuries, in the protests tent which was installed to counter Israel’s illegal attempts to displace the Palestinians and replace them with illegal colonialist settlers.

  316. @Truth Vigilante

    The following item relates to my Comment # 308.

    Hopefully this appears as a photo rather than in ‘link’ format:

    It is an Israeli commemorative medal issued in 1968. (If you’re curious, you’ll have to read my comment # 308 for context).

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Arthur MacBride
  317. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    PLet’s go along with A123’s game and pretend he is a Christian supporter of Israel. (I don’t for a minute believe it but it can be very illustrative.) Note that his main interest in Israel seems to be to use it as a weapon against Islam. He freely admits that he doesn’t care that Israel is an anti-Christian society lead by Jesus hating Jewish jihadist Orthodox rabbis. His agenda is singular: that Israel will serve as the tip of the spear in Christendom’s confrontation with Islam. He’s happy to use Israel as a weapon even knowing that it is excluded from his own ideology of salvation. Is there a more dangerous form of hypocrisy than this?

    Regarding his specious Claim about the affinity between Judaism and Christianity (aka “Judeo-Christianity”) in Israel that definitely is not the case. Orthodox Jews regularly spit on and assault Christian pastors and priests and they desecrate churches. This all stems from the Antichrist ideology of the Talmud that is codified in Orthodox Jewish law. Have you ever heard of a Jew desecrating a mosque? I don’t believe it has ever happened because Judaism considers a mosque to be a Beit Allah or House of God worthy of even Jewish worship.

    Regarding his assertion about biblical literalism, it seems that his hasbara employers have not educated him very well about their own seminal texts. Because it is in fact the Talmud that teaches not to take the biblical text literally (at least in some places) so for example it says that an eye for an eye refers to monetary damages. The same Talmud excoriates Jesus and Christianity and is echoed down the centuries by almost all the elite Jewish sages, such as Maimonides, who is considered the greatest Jewish scholar in the last thousand years.

    And while it is true that more liberal streams of Judaism do not follow the Talmud slavishly, that is not true about Orthodox Jews, who not only completely submit to the Talmud but even add to it. And the Orthodox Jews are the spiritual guardians of religion in Israel. The liberal streams of Judaism are not recognized by the Israeli government. So these Orthodox Jewish jihadist rabbis stamp the entire Israeli regime with a Jesus-hating anti-Christ ideology that reflects their own deepest prejudices.

  318. Mevashir says:
    @AaronB


    https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/64882

    Bellock is a very controversial character even within Catholicism. He wrote a book called THE SERVILE STATE which discusses the rise of welfare capitalism. One of his memorable claims is that Western man attained the height of freedom and dignity in the late Middle Ages when every peasant was regarded essentially as an owner of his own plot of land. He says that after Henry VIII broke with the Catholic Church, his daughter Queen Elizabeth not only persecuted Catholics in England but expropriated enormous tracts of church property which she gave to her friends in the nobility and this fueled the rise of English merchant capitalism that came to dominate the globe.

    I never knew that he reluctantly endorsed Zionism. It’s important to note I think that he did not accept the possibility of Happy coexistence between Jews and non- Jews in Western democratic states. In this regard he reflected the traditional Catholic View that condemns liberal democracies. You should check out the papal document from the 19th century that condemns the American Bill of rights and just about every Liberty Americans take for granted these days:

    From my own time living in Israel, I know that it reflected my own sense of paranoia and unhappiness living in the United States. Since converting to Christianity I feel more content living here in a multicultural society.

    So it seems to me that Zionism emanates from two negative features. First Jews who feel insecure living amongst non-Jews. And then Gentiles like Belloc who seem fundamentally hostile to Jewish people whom they regard as unworthy of coexistence in their own Western societies. And then of course there is the unfortunate role of the Nazis in catalyzing the creation of the Jewish State.

    The question is does the world need to accept Zionism as a necessary product of these negative human impulses of Jewish anti-Gentilism and Gentile anti-Jewishness? Can we aspire to a more liberal and enlightened human experience?

    That was one of my hopes when I converted to Christianity in Israel back in the year 2000. (St Paul speaks about ONE NEW MAN IN CHRIST, which is a very attractive paradigm.) But my experience with American forms of evangelical Christianity has not been very positive. They seem increasingly to embrace Belloc’s understanding that Jews are fundamentally incompatible with their culture and need to be isolated in a separate location.

    You talk about things not turning out well, and I share your pessimism. I am bracing myself for an explosion of anti-Jewish violence in America and Europe. For various reasons I am not willing to live in Israel and I am resigned to probably falling victim to the expected paroxysm of hatred.

  319. RSDB says:
    @AaronB

    He was quite clear eyed and honest about Jewish independence in Palestine – he frankly stated that Muslims despise Jews and feel they have to dominate them, and so would never accept Jewish independence. This is basically the Hamas charter – Muslims must rule over Jews and Christians.

    Can you give a citation here? It would be helpful as I’m a bit of a Belloc fan and I am always open to encountering more Belloc; I don’t think I’ve read the piece you are referencing.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  320. @Commentator Mike

    OK, perhaps you might be strictly correct, so whad’a’ya’sayin?

    That the vaccines are now all good?

    Who cares whether ‘it’s no chance’ or ‘dead in 2 years’, this non-kosher shit’ll start turning us into 5G thrombotic zombies in no more than 18 months. Or your money back!

    God Almighty, I praise and thank, that I never went for my jab!

  321. Well the Hasbara certainly hijacked this thread. Jerusalem, the holiest christian site that now Jews control total access to and tax heavily is just “a little sliver of land that nobody cared about”? How many crusades were fought over Jerusalem? Really not worth trying to have a discussion with these ziotrolls posting.

  322. Mevashir says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I can imagine your comment. Looks like the plane is flying into the twin towers!

    The Twin Towers image is supposed to be a rolled up Torah scroll. Maybe they’re speaking Japanese and shouting Tora Tora Tora into the towers?!

  323. @AaronB

    ‘…A Nazi is someone who wants a German empire (Reich), a Germany that rules and enslaves non-Aryans, the conquest of other lands, and the extermination of Jews…’

    Whereas a Zionist is someone who wants a Jewish empire (Eretz Israel) that rules gentiles, the conquest of other lands, and the extermination of Palestinians.

  324. Mevashir says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    So what’s so special about the year 1968 – the year this commemorative medal was issued by the Israelis ?

    It was the year George W Bush graduated from Yale.
    It was the year that 9-1-1 was made the emergency dialling code.
    It was the year that construction began on the World Trade Centre Twin Towers.

    To that we could add:
    It was the last full year of the tenure of the first Jewish President (LBJ) – a President without whom the Six Day war would never have eventuated. (Upon the death of JFK, LBJ immediately did a 180 degree reversal of U.S foreign policy and sent a deluge of the latest U.S weaponry and technology to the Israelis – both conventional and nuclear).
    It was the year that MLK Jr and RFK were murdered (and there is a ton of circumstantial evidence to suggest that, if the order to kill didn’t come down from the very top then, at a VERY MINIMUM, LBJ had foreknowledge of said assassinations and gave the green light to proceed).

    All of this seems a bit suspicious to me – or is it just one big coincidence ? Am I reading too much into this ?

    What do you think readers ?

    WOWOWOWOWOW!!!!

    I never knew any of this! Thank you so much for pointing this out.

  325. @AaronB

    ‘Look, if you’re going to ignore the public and formal acceptance of the Jewish community of all partition deals, and you’re going to ignore the formal and public rejection by the Arab community, and claim there is some secret history only you know, then there’s little point talking…’

    The point, Aaron, as you know perfectly well, is that the Jews made their public and formal acceptances alright — but then simply ignored their commitments. In this sense you are indeed a true Zionist. You’re insufferably dishonest. Others lie as a last resort; Zionists lie as a matter of course.

    ‘…The good thing about the Arabs is that there is no secrecy. They openly rejected the partition deal. They open invaded the new state of Israel. Hamas openly declares they reject the two stare solution and want to destroy Israel and put an Islamist state in its stead.

    ‘If you’re just going to retreat into fantasy, and believe whatever feels good, enjoy yourself…’

    Okay, Aaron, here’s a simple question for you.

    You claim the Arabs ‘openly invaded the new state of Israel.’

    To do that, they must have entered the territory assigned to the Jewish state, yes?

    So how come virtually all the fighting occurred in territory that had been assigned to the Palestinians?

    Could it conceivably be that it was the Jews that attacked rather than the reverse? Or perhaps you can offer another explanation?

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  326. @RSDB

    ‘… I don’t think I’ve read the piece you are referencing.’

    Lol. There could be an excellent reason for that.

    For starters, it’s distinctly possible Aaron has never read Belloc at all. He’s most likely relying on some third-party summary.

    Then too, Aaron simply flat-out lies. It’s theoretically possible he’s telling the truth — but I certainly wouldn’t assume it.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  327. lydia says:
    @Nostradamus

    The United Nations and NGOs launch a humanitarian plan to support Palestinians affected by the recent escalation

    Donors called upon to contribute US\$95 million for swift implementation
    Today, the Humanitarian Coordinator of the occupied Palestinian territory, Lynn Hastings, launched an emergency plan to support people affected by the latest escalation and violence in Gaza and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Along with UN Secretary-General António Guterres and Under-Secretary-General and Emergency Relief Coordinator Mark Lowcock, Ms Hastings called on all Member States to contribute generously towards the \$95 million plan, to allow for a swift and full implementation over the next three months.

    During a visit to Gaza, immediately after the ceasefire, Ms Hastings met Palestinians who had lost their homes and livelihoods as a result of the conflict. She saw damage to civilian infrastructure which had left 800,000 people without regular access to piped water.

    Damage to wastewater infrastructure resulted in large volumes of untreated sewage water being discharged into the sea, creating health hazards and pollution. Damage to 54 education facilities undermines children’s access to education, and damage to six hospitals and 11 primary health-care centres hinders the delivery of health services. Limited fuel and damage to the electricity network have reduced access to electricity to a daily average of 4-6 hours throughout Gaza, further limiting the provision of these basic services. This comes as health systems are already overburdened by COVID-19.
    Saturday’s statement was approved by all 15 members of the council. It said the council “mourned the loss of civilian lives resulting from the violence” and “stressed the immediate need for humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian civilian populati…

    Read more at: https://www.deccanherald.com/international/world-news-politics/un-security-council-urges-aid-for-palestinians-988942.html

    A Palestinian youth looks for salvageable items amid the rubbe of the Kuhail building which was destroyed in an early morning Israeli airstrike on Gaza City. Credit: AFP Photo The UN Security Council is welcoming the cease-fire between Israel and G…

    hard to find anything online about the immediate humanitarian needs of Gazans and if Israel has lifed the blockade to allow help or if they are pretending hamas won”t let the aid come in

  328. @Truth Vigilante

    Thanks, TV.
    That is at least interesting.

    CNN/BBC/DW etc would never cover this — not that any coverage by them would have any value … cries of conspiracy theory against brave little Israel or “coincidence”.

    And we all know about “coincidence” in politics …

    Happen all the time, right ?

    As FDR revealed —

    In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt

  329. A123 says:
    @Mevashir

    Posting links to debunked works shows that you are an Iranian propaganda corps operative, working off an out-of-date script.

    The More You Lie. The More You Humiliate Yourself.

    We appreciate your admission that you are not a Christian.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Arthur MacBride
  330. A123 says:
    @Goyboy

    If it has been accepted that many Hamas rockets flew deep into Israel, doesn’t that suggest that the iron dome was not effective because the Hamas rockets would have been intercepted very quickly after being launched?

    Iron Dome interceptors are expensive and the quantity is limited.

    Therefore, the system only engages against threats headed towards populated areas. Rockets headed towards unoccupied areas in Israel (also the Mediterranean, Jordan, and possibly Syria) are allowed to reach the ground, harmlessly except in cases of extremely bad luck.

    PEACE 😇

  331. anon[827] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charlesz Martel

    Another country Zionist has in mind for a while is India
    In fact India was thought as one of the destination for Ameruacn Jeiws when Obama was president. Otehr was China.

    India is always available . It worships the devil. India basically sales itself to the most powerful or higest bidder most easily. It worships Zionism – the quinesstial devil.

    Followings are the two expamles :

    1–“Hindu priests at a temple in Tamil Nadu are saying daily prayers to two coronavirus goddesses in an effort to tame the pandemic as the country battles a new infection surge. Two “Corona Devi” idols have been set up in the southern city of Coimbatore, ”

    https://www.newindianexpress.com/videos/videos-nation/2021/may/28/corona-goddess-temple-dedicated-for-corona-devi-in-tamil-nadus-coimbatore-109824.html

    2–“Netanyahu expressed his gratitude to foreign governments for supporting his country in the ongoing clashes with Hamas and included emojis of flags of 25 countries except India, this upset India’s social media users, many of whom pleaded with him on Twitter to include India’s flag too in appreciation of their solidarity with Israel. ”

    “BJP spokesman ,..BJP Member of Parliament,….Sudarshan, a rightwing television ,…Major Gaurav Arya, a former Army officer turned ….”
    https://mondoweiss.net/2021/05/why-pro-israel-hashtags-are-trending-in-india/
    m

  332. @J

    Scuba diving? More like hiding in man made caves on stolen land. The crash test dummies shipped in by Abramovitch and the likes should ask themselves: Why?

  333. @Franklin Ryckaert

    You ignore crucial facts. All around them there are children with much more courage than the pampered, brainwashed IDF. The occupation forces gathered close to Gaza which was a costly exercise if they had no intentions of invading. The criminally corrupt Netanyahu was going to unleash the acne scarred delinquents on to Gaza but realised that the Resistance had been been conspiring which resulted in the ‘Israeli’ population screaming and hiding in their bunkers. Fireworks had been replaced by significantly more sophisticated missiles.
    Perhaps Netanyahu recalled 2006, when military casualties were almost equal in the disastrous attempt to gain a foothold in Southern Lebanon. Bint Jbeil, defended by 150 Hezbollah warriors resisted 5,000 (yes, that’s right 3 zero’s) for days. There is one thing we agree on. The occupiers are much more proficient in killing innocents and destroying civilian infrastructure, both war crimes, it’s an art they’ve mastered. Believing they can beat a very dedicated, resilient and organised Resistance? Don’t make me laugh.

  334. anon[336] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charlesz Martel

    Israel has few places left to seek inspiration and affection and acceptance.India loves worshipping the powerful.

    1-https://youtu.be/i-Lw5a_0QLQ--https://www.newindianexpress.com/videos/videos-nation/2021/may/28/corona-goddess-temple-dedicated-for-corona-devi-in-tamil-nadus-coimbatore-109824.html

    Hindu priests at a temple in Tamil Nadu are saying daily prayers to two coronavirus goddesses in an effort to tame the pandemic as the country battles a new infection surge. Two “Corona Devi” idols have been set up in the southern city of Coimbatore,

    2–on May 15, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed his gratitude to foreign governments for supporting his country in the ongoing clashes with Hamas and included emojis of flags of 25 countries except India, this upset India’s social media users, many of whom pleaded with him on Twitter to include India’s flag too in appreciation of their solidarity with Israel.” http://www.mondoweiss.com
    https://mondoweiss.net/2021/05/why-pro-israel-hashtags-are-trending-in-india/
    2

  335. @Colin Wright

    Could it conceivably be that it was the Jews that attacked rather than the reverse? Or perhaps you can offer another explanation?

    I don’t know why Aaron bothers misrepresenting the facts about this.

    It’s part of the standard history of the 48 war that the Jews and Palestinians began fighting in 47, while the Brits were still there (with the Jews quickly gaining the upper hand). The other Arab countries waited for the British to depart before attacking. By then the Jews were well established in the areas assigned to the Palestinians.

    Still, neither the Jews nor the Palestinians nor the surrounding Arabs were going to honor any partition commitment. So they fought it out and the Arabs lost. At some point, it becomes time to put the past behind them.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Colin Wright
    , @AaronB
  336. Mevashir says:

    The author of that book JESUS IN THE TALMUD is Department head at Princeton. Extremely prestigious position. Please send me some links showing where the book has been debunked. You can email me directly:
    [email protected]

    My Iranian handlers will allow your emails through. 🤠

  337. @Fran Taubman

    If Israel weren’t such a huge liability for the U.S. and a constant source of trouble for the world, I wouldn’t care, and would write the whole thing off as foreign troubles. However, since the U.S. and Europe have been bled white and subverted over the last 70 years trying to meet the restitution demands of Jews, let’s be honest about who the victims are in Palestine, and it isn’t the Jews.

    I worked on a “founder’s” kibbutz in the northern Galilee in the 90s, and constantly found evidence of the Arab villages that were destroyed to make room for the Jews coming into the country. When I came across pottery, I notified the Israelis, and was told that it was once an Arab village. A glance of the old maps shows who the land belonged to, and it wasn’t the incoming Jews.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  338. Mevashir says:

    I will make one more effort to respond to your insults intelligently. It is true that Orthodox Jewish apologists claim that the Talmudic passages are not referring to Jesus. But the Steinsaltz Talmud Edition, which is highly regarded, has restored all of the passages that were censored by the Catholic Church. It also explains that wherever the Talmud uses a euphemism in those scurrilous passages, like “that man” or “sinners of Israel”, it definitely is referring to Jesus.

    Steinsaltz is highly respected by both religious and secular Jews all around the world. You simply cannot refute his claims:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talmud:_The_Steinsaltz_Edition
    https://www.steinsaltz-center.org/home/doc.aspx?mCatID=68398

    It seems that Israel is really scraping the bottom of the barrel with its latest hasbara recruits. Do you think they might hire me? Could I send you my CV and you forward it on to your Mossad handlers? I would like to do such outrageous hasbara that people will recognize the Nazionists are liars. In other words I will be a double agent in hasbara disguise. I’m pretty sure I’m qualified for the job given the stupidity of many of your comments.

  339. Mevashir says:
    @Colin Wright

    I’m not sure if we can say Aaron is lying. He seems to be a very cool headed proponent of liberal forms of Zionism. I think if Israel were filled with more people like him the situation today might be quite different.

    Aaron also concedes a lot more points than most Israelis I have met would. Israel is a heavily censored and brainwashed society. We all know about the military censorship of news media. Most of the things that I have learned challenging the Zionist narrative I learned only after leaving Israel in 2006 and moving back to the USA. So we might give Aaron the benefit of the doubt and not call him a liar but simply a heavily indoctrinated exponent.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  340. @Mevashir

    Again you are wrong. The quote about Jesus in boiling excrement is from the Babylonian Talmud, which is more important in Jewish life even than the Torah.

    This is BS. No one reads the Talmud except the Rabbis and Yeshiva guys. Unlike the Torah which is taught in most Hebrew Day schools along with Chomesh. The Torah is read every Shabbas. I know very few people that have completed the full reading of the Talmud. They study a page a night with groups, it takes 7 years to complete. Big celebration at the end. The Talmud is not definitive and leaves many things unanswered. It is a formal discussion

    When the Talmud was written, early AD. Jesus and Christianity were a hot topic. Jesus as the Messiah was for the Jews and considered a part of Judaism. Christianity went on to become an independent faith, which under Rome turned into a pagan religion. Jewish sages were terrified of losing Jews to Roman Christianity. Jesus is the penultimate idolatrous demi god, a child of a god, performing miracles. Exactly the kind of worship Judaism was designed to avoid. Like a huge end game for the one god Jewish religion. Warning after warning that the Messiah would be a person and not perform miracles, and would not be a supernatural being. Christianity and the Trinity went against the core of Judaism. Of course the Talmud was going to trash him. He was a Jew claiming to be the Messiah, they thought he was a sorcerer. They though he was the worst thing to ever happen to the Jews.

    The problem with you Mev is that you are looking for perfection. There is none. You are looking to escape some trauma that you have experienced and distance yourself from the way you were brought up and it is not working. You are as dissatisfied with Christianity as you were with Judaism. Why not try Islam?

    All religions are essentially the same. Each religion is narrated and crafted for different types of people Judaism is for intellectuals as it presents a less concrete passage to divinity. A supernatural blur, with magic and sounds that harken back to primitive man. Praying in Judaism is like a wolf howling in the nite. A complete cry into the wilderness. Judaism is not linear and presents the divine as a complex duplicitous being, a frightening god. An enigmatic god wrapped in a riddle. Just who is this being? Why?

    Christianity is Judaism 2.0. It is not for the intellectual. It is far more concrete and binary and presents a clear understanding of a loving divine being with light and a clear path to reaching that light and salvation. It is much easier to follow and digest and does not leave one in a quandary like Judaism. One literally feels saved and out of the darkness that Judaism presents.

    Islam is Judaism 3.0 and the most satisfying of the three religions, as it does not require any more than submission. It is a hierarchal religion, that is merged with a political system. You cannot have one without the other, which is why Islam presents such a conundrum when it is practiced in a democracy. You cannot have Islam and democracy. You must have a religious figure making the laws and important decisions. It is also socialistic and looks down on individual wealth and promotes a state sponsored system to paternally take care of the Umah. Mohammed is a man not a demi-god. The problem with Islam is it has not figured out how to merge with modern life. Dependency on a religious structure as a political system discourages individual responsibility and entrepreneurship. Islamic life is meant to be simple, spiritual and non materialistic. Materialism has taken over modern life, and the benign caliphate structure has taken has been taken over by corrupt and brutal dictators. Wealth is depended on birth and nepotism. Capitalism for all of its problems has brought more people wealth, prosperity and success than any other system ever invented. It is incumbent upon Islam to adopt this system. The Abraham accords is an attempt to enlist the Jews to help Muslim countries become capitalist, build infrastructure, and use banking to generate money to fund entrepreneurs and start up companies. A system the Jews have perfected. I hope it works.

    You Mev are a misfit, so whatever you say should be viewed in a specific frame of reference of someone who is psychologically skewed. Walking away from a birthright faith is usually done when running from something not towards. I really resent the way you depict Judaism and Zionism. I think you are a mental case. Below is an example of how the Talmud can deal with obscure unimportant situations, turning them into complex discussions. Most Jews are not interested and have never studied the Talmud. Most Jews no longer deal with the theft of pregnant cows.

    The Mishnah often details rules relating to specific cases, and then sums up the discussion with a klal—a general principle that can be applied to other cases. For example:
    “One who steals wood and makes vessels from it, or one who steals wool and makes clothing from it [upon confessing or being caught] pays [the owner] the cost of the object at the time it was stolen [i.e. the thief pays the cost of the wool, not of the clothing.] One who steals a pregnant cow and it gives birth, or one who steals a ewe in need of shearing pays the cost of a cow about to give birth or of a ewe about to be shorn. One who steals a cow that later becomes pregnant and gives birth, or a ewe that later needs shearing and is shorn pays the cost of the animal at the time it was stolen. This is the klal: all thieves pay the price of the object at the time it is stolen.” (Mishnah Bava Kamma 9:1)

    • Disagree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  341. anon[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    30,000 ( 25,000 recruited from peasantry and given 2 weeks training and 5000 well trained Jordanian army ) Arab soldiers entered Palestine n a most disorganized way to stop the flow of the Palestinian refugees streaming out of newly state of Israel and from the UN mandated part of Israel then under attack by Israel. 1948 saw a lot of protests and demonstrations and sometimes open fights in the region destined to become Israel an d state of Palestine.This increased after the UN declarations. Israel ruthlessly mounted most ferocious attack on the Palestinian (Arab ) civilians . They ran for life and started entering Jordan ,Egypt ,Lebanon-Syria .
    To stem the flow about 30,000 Arab armies from Jordan Egypt and Syria intervened . This army did never cross into Israel proper . Arab did not attack Israel. No army attacked Israel. Israeli army attacked civilians and started expulsion.

    Again , no Arab Military and no Palestinian Militia attacked Israel, There was demonstration by Arabs which Israel used to expel the native Arab citizen. Israel used 120,000 soldiers to attack Egypt Jordan and Syria.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • LOL: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @anon
  342. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Christianity teaches that we are all Misfits Fran. We are all sick with sin. Saint Paul says the whole purpose of the Torah law is to Humble us to recognize our sinfulness and imperfection and force us to turn to Jesus.

    Jesus himself said I have not come to heal the healthy but only the sick. I think what he really means is to help those who understand they are sick as opposed to those who imagine they are healthy.

    I heard this once. The difference between someone who’s mentally ill and someone who is normal is the normal person doesn’t know he’s mentally ill.

    BTW if you really think Islam is the best of the three Abrahamic faiths, why aren’t you a Muslim?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  343. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Christianity went on to become an independent faith, which under Rome turned into a pagan religion.

    You are very slick liar Fran I must hand it to you. Christianity became independent because the rabbis castigated it. Some historians estimate 50% of the Jews living in the Roman Empire eventually became Christians.

    As for your claim about the irrelevance of the Talmud, you could not be more mistaken. The Talmud is the guiding work for Israel’s Orthodox Jewish rabbinical establishment that has incredible power in that country serving in the government and even determining policies of the IDF.

    It doesn’t matter what your Jewish synagogue in Manhattan thinks about the Talmud. In Israel it is The guiding Light of the Jewish jihadist rabbis who are heavily embedded in Netanyahu’s government.

    This is the whole problem we are discussing on this thread. Why otherwise sensible and liberal people like you give a rubber stamp to the jihadist rabbis masterminding Israel’s atrocities against Palestinians and other non Jewish elements. If you think that Talmud is so irrelevant why do you bow to the Orthodox rabbinate that is the only officially recognized form of Judaism in Israel?

    This is exactly what we all want to know. Why do you sacrifice your own liberal ideas about religion and bow down and enslave yourself to the Jewish Jihadist rabbis? Why are you and so many American Jews like you as well as Jews all over the world so intimidated into rubber stamping the Israeli regime?

    Why are you a fifth column treasonous single loyalist to the Israeli state?

  344. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel Rich

    Winners always demand a ceasefire duh

  345. AnoN[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @BorisMay

    Are Muslims bullies ?
    Indonesia is fighting a far more brutal war in occupied west Papua , with over half a million unarmed civilians killed. West papuans are armed with bows and arrows , Indonesia Has fighter jets . Palestinians killed by israel 25,000
    Papuans killed by Indonesia 500,000
    Somehow the media and alt Media refuse to report this. Almost like Israel is a ( possibly willing) smokescreen.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  346. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Capitalism for all of its problems has brought more people wealth, prosperity and success than any other system ever invented. It is incumbent upon Islam to adopt this system. The Abraham accords is an attempt to enlist the Jews to help Muslim countries become capitalist, build infrastructure, and use banking to generate money to fund entrepreneurs and start up companies. A system the Jews have perfected. I hope it works.

    More wishful thinking or self-serving lies. Do you think the Gulf State Arab countries need Israel’s help with Finance? They’re drowning in money and they are networked throughout the world’s banking system. They’re very competent financiers without Israel’s help.

    The so called Abraham Accords have two purposes: one is to provide Israeli Security and surveillance technology to these repressive Arab countries so they can continue to abuse their populations. And the other is to provide an outlet for Rich Israelis to go on hedonistic shopping sprees in Dubai. Having noticed your art website and who you cater to ad customers, no doubt you are very impressed by this new economic paradigm. Maybe you can go move to Dubai and open up your gallery over there for Rich oil shieks.

    Capitalism is an utterly failed system that has accomplished only to impoverish and wipe out the middle class and hand over all their assets to the financial overlords who are overwhelmingly Jewish. Exactly what happened in Weimar Germany in the 1920s that precipitated the rise of Hitler.

    I call the system Cancer Capitalism because like cancer it inevitably kills its host by metastasizing with limitless greed and selfishness. This evil corrupt system is only sustained through massive social welfare programs and Chinese debt holders.

    If you think capitalism is so great how do you explain the fact that the United States is so low in almost every metric of social welfare and human happiness? I know how it works Fran. The rich Jews arrogantly shove their financial Prestige down the throats of everyone else and accuse the rest of us of sabotaging the world’s best economy. Sort of like the Middle East only democracy right?

    Maybe you should travel away from your little privileged Island of Manhattan and see how the rest of the country is living. The human misery caused by the rampant selfishness of the ruthless capitalist class is astoundingly prevalent. You should close your art gallery for a couple of weeks and take a bus trip across the country and see how the rest of us are living.

    Of course the rest of us don’t count because we’re just Gentile scum there to serve as background music for the Jews fiddling while the AmeRoman Empire Burns to the ground.

    The only way to deal with selfish greedy lying unreasonable people like you who are Israel’s peanut gallery is to force you to move there. I’m sure after one month you will be crying and whining to come back to America where you can dupe the goyim to your heart’s content.

    Go move to your yidschwitz on the sea your Jewish antiparadise. If you want to start a GoFundMe to pay for your move I’ll be happy to send you \$10.

    • Thanks: Druid55
    • Replies: @silviosilver
  347. @A123

    I don’t doubt that that happens,

    Once there is conflict the innocent always suffer,

    Just like in what the Brits call the ‘Blitz’ when they were being bombed by the Germans in WW2,

    Half of the casualties (30.000) were as a result of friendly fire because they attempted, quite foolishly to shoot down the German bombers using battleship artillery which they had placed in a circle around London,

    The shells fired from these wholly unsuitable weapons ended up falling down upon their own citizens,

    Hamas sure ain’t the first to fuck up like this,

    Primary responsibility for all deaths lies at the feet of the colonialists,

    In this case,

    Israel.

    • Replies: @A123
  348. @Mevashir

    BTW if you really think Islam is the best of the three Abrahamic faiths, why aren’t you a Muslim?

    Because I was not born into Islam, as a Jew I am allowed to go off the beat and path, and seek individuality. As a Jew I am driven to be competitive and succeed. I am also a female artist. Islam???? duh???
    I unlike you accept my fate and work to the best of my abilities to lead a productive life. All e religions promote the same values and teach how to mitigate the human condition and to lead a productive and positive life, which without a divine being can really go haywire. As I said they are each religion is designed to fit specific types of people. A woman less driven might choose Islam. I like the non materiality and purity of Islam.

    I am happy if you have found salvation and enjoy Christianity. But what would Jesus say about you denigrating another faith, and the people belonging to that faith? Would Jesus tell you to accept the paths that people choose and love them as they are?

    You are sining by denigrate your family, former friends and your former country. It is sickening, diabolical and evil. A back stabbing Judah. There is no room in any spiritual world to support the kind of hate you spew about Jews, with inside knowledge and joining in discussions with UR groups on this site that call for genocide. Shame on you. I have no respect and could care less what you say. You are a phony.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  349. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The truth hurts doesn’t it Fran? Unlike you the peanut gallery Zionist I actually lived over there for 20 years and saw firsthand what it is like. Why don’t you get back to us 20 years from now after you get some on the job experience being a Zionist up close and personal?

    It seems that you don’t believe in anything except for your own right to personal success and the obligation of everyone else to cheer for you. Sounds like a major case of narcissism.

    I am happy if you have found salvation and enjoy Christianity. But what would Jesus say about you denigrating another faith, and the people belonging to that faith? Would Jesus tell you to accept the paths that people choose and love them as they are?

    No I do not believe Jesus would tell us to accept people as they are. Jesus insisted his is the only true path to the Father, Avinu Shebashamayim. We are meant to speak the truth that we believe in respectfully to other people but also without compromise. That apparently is what you are too immature to handle as you resort to personal attacks and character assassination rather than responding to the information I have taken great pains to share with you.

    You are sining by denigrate your family, former friends and your former country. It is sickening, diabolical and evil. A back stabbing Judah. There is no room in any spiritual world to support the kind of hate you spew about Jews, with inside knowledge and joining in discussions with UR groups on this site that call for genocide. Shame on you. I have no respect and could care less what you say. You are a phony.

    I look at myself not as a traitor or a backstabber but as a whistleblower. That’s supposed to be an honorable calling. Why are you so angry? You are not implicated in any of the crimes I’m discussing except as part of the peanut gallery cheering the criminals on. You must have a terribly guilty conscience to level such accusations against me for simply reporting the truth as I have witnessed it.

    Have you ever stopped to consider that the Torah that you seem to admire so much is a gigantic book of laws for Jewish criminals? From that perspective it’s not much to be proud of, which is precisely the point of Christianity and the Gospel. I hope you have enough self-esteem to desire a better life for yourself in this world and the next and to submit yourself to Jesus the Messiah. Amen

  350. RobinG says:

    The results of the Gaza war: Palestinians to confront the “Greater Jihad”
    https://thealtworld.com/elijah_magnier/the-results-of-the-gaza-war-palestinians-to-confront-the-greater-jihad

    Elijah J. Magnier, @ejmalrai is worth following.

    “…the Greater Jihad is the most difficult one, and is to come: the preservation of Palestinian unity, a significant challenge for the Palestinian Resistance. This is in fact a much more challenging objective than the war with Israel, and will prove essential.”
    ·

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  351. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    RESPONSE TO FRAN AND EVERYONE ON THIS THREAD

    I think Fran has provided us with a fantastic illustration of how Zionism intimidates Jewish people. She admits that she is not a Jewish fundamentalist and yet she is completely subservient to the state of Israel whose only officially recognized rabbinical leaders are all orthodox fundamentalists. I think this demonstrates that Jews simply cannot be trusted. Exactly as Hilaire Belloc wrote in the book quoted by Aaron that Jews cannot pretend that they are a member of a race but also of a political society wherever they happen to be living.

    Perhaps the US could condition its aid to Israel on a greatly accelerated Exodus of Zionist Jews Like Fran from our country. From what I saw in Israel for the 20 years I lived there, Israel doesn’t want American Jews to live there. Israel wants their money and their political influence. Maybe it’s time to change that calculation.

    I also want to explain something about the Naturay Karta group that we have all heard about. These are Orthodox Jews who are anti-zionist. They are the ones who fly to Tehran and have conferences with the Iranian government. It’s true that they also are talmudic rabbis and follow the Talmud meticulously.

    One of the reasons they are anti Zionist is because they suspect that one of the purposes of Zionism is to infiltrate Christian ideology into Judaism. They also are very aware that even without this sinister possibility, Zionism is being used by Christians fundamentalists to confront Islam and to finish what the Crusaders failed to accomplish 1,000 years ago. The NK rabbis faithfully follow the opinions of the Talmud and later Jewish legalists that Christianity is idolatrous but Islam is a pure monotheistic faith.

    So part of their agenda is hostility to Christianity and sympathy with Islam. It’s important to understand that you may see them as allies in the struggle against Zionism but you need to realize that they are not friendly in the least bit to Christianity or to Christian civilization.

    • Thanks: nokangaroos
  352. @OilcanFloyd

    If Israel weren’t such a huge liability for the U.S. and a constant source of trouble for the world, I wouldn’t care, and would write the whole thing off as foreign troubles. However, since the U.S. and Europe have been bled white and subverted over the last 70 years trying to meet the restitution demands of Jews, let’s be honest about who the victims are in Palestine, and it isn’t the Jews.

    If you go back to cold war with Russia, the US was not in the ME for Israel. People on this site think the US is and was in the ME to pander to Israel. Before fracking and energy independence OPEC was the only game to get oil. The US presence in the ME for oil, as was Russia. During the cold war Russia supported and supplied all the Arab countries with their weapons and training. The US to balance the cold war supported Israel. It was 2 superpowers vying for oil.

    What happened to the Palestinians has happened throughout history. It is the nature of history and warfare where people lose their homes and land. Before and after WW2 parts of Poland, then the Ukraine and Lithuania change hands many times. I know many Christian poles who could not return to their villages because they now belong to Russia. Gone is their land and home with no compensation. My family is from a former Ukraine village that belonged to Poland, Ukraine and now Russia. They spoke all 3 languages. Many of the citizens in both WW1 and WW2 lost homes, families, and land, some lost all three. Empires rising and falling cause land ownership changes. This is the way of the world, since before the Norman conquest, in the days of Rome and Genghis Kahn. The Palestinian story has taken on a life of its own beyond the loss of land to symbolize Imperial colonialism. Which is a lie. Jews have populated Arabia continuously since biblical times. Hebrew is not a colonial language and the Jews remained united in their diaspora with a shared history and bible. Passover has been celebrated continuously since 5th century BC. The same Hagadah is used in every country throughout the world, with the same prayers and tunes. Verbatim and in Hebrew. The same Torah and prayer books throughout the world for centuries. Judaism did not spring up out of no where like the Dutch in South Africa. It is a stupid comparison. Israel is not a colonial construct.

    What happened to the Palestinians is and was a tragedy, but this fight is not about the Palestinians it is a fight between Islam and Judaism using the Palestinians as proxies. You need to clear your head and look within the context of history and with common sense and rid yourself of the Jew hatred conspiracy, to understand what this fight is about. . There were Jews living throughout the Arab Muslim and in Palestine continually since biblical times. In many Arab countries Jews were second class citizens. Unable to vote, join the military or participate in certain professions. It was differed depending where they lived in the Arab world. Jews for sure prospered and were happy. But it was not equal.

    Most of the injustices happened to the Palestinians were inflicted on them by Islamic Arab rulers who did not want the Jews to have a home anywhere in Arabia. Some of the tragedy was self inflicted. When the Ottomans were ready to turn Palestine over to the British Empire they tried to persuade the Beduin farmers to register their land and receive titles. The bedouins refused because they did not want to pay taxes. You snooze you lose. They just did not bother to deal with what was going on around them. They became squatters with no land rites, playing victim when it came down to show land deeds with paper.

    The other Arab League was also responsible for the Nabka League, who refused to make and deal honestly with what the Jews were proposing. After ww2 when many Jews in Europe became stateless the Jews wanted a portion of the land to call their own, and become self governing, which would include not only the European Jews but the Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews already living there. It was not an unreasonable request. In 1948 this could have been worked out where everyone was happy, with resettlement and compensation. It did not have to go down as it did. The local Palestinians had little say in the matter. It was out of their hands and decided by Islamic leaders. . What independent Jewish state was no different than what happened to India and Pakistan when India wanted to be Hindu, and the Muslims wanted their own country. Or Bangladesh.

    If you can rise above the Cosmic Jew hatred on this site the worst tragedy inflicted on the Palestinians was by the Islamic Arab rulers. They were the worst. They did not care about the Palestinians. The Mufti of Jerusalem who was a big Hitler supporter called for death to the Jews. Islam did not want an independent Jewish state on 1 inch of Arabia. Did the Jews make mistakes and displace people? Absolutely. Were they guilty of crimes? Yes. But it is only a portion of the story.

    There was a war. People on this site think it is so clever to say the Jews started the war and stole the land. The situation was far more complex than that. The Arabs did not just threaten Israeli statehood. The Arab leaders were very vocal in their stated goal which was to drive the Jews into the sea for complete annihilation.

    After the war. Israel resettled all of the Jewish refugees that the Arabs kicked out. The Arab rulers refused let me repeat that for affect. Refused to allow the Palestinians to resettle in any Arab countries. They lived in squalor and tented refugee camps. In Jordan Syria and Lebanon. In Jordan? Why are there Palestinian refugees living in camps in Jordan?. Why? The Arab countries created a festering situation telling them that they would get to go back to their village when Israel was defeated. They breed hate and resentment.

    Today in Lebanon the Palestinians are kept in squalid camps. Told to save there house keys for when they return their villages. This will be the 3rd generation living in squalor. Horrible conditions, right under the noses of the wonderful Hezbollah. Why? Why not let those people become citizens and live normal lives. Do you see Saudi Arabia taking in any Palestinian refugees?
    To me the most evil is the persistent use of the Palestinians pawns for the defeat of Israel and the Jews. To me this makes no sense.

    Most of the Arab world is ready to move on and ditch this futile and detrimental ideology to defeat the Jews, and to stop focusing on defeating Israel. Jew hatred has not served the Muslims or the world very well.

    But to listen to people on this site like Taxi talk about the Jews with such vitriolic and over language, is to understand that more wars are coming. It looks like total destruction is what is going to happen. It is not only wrong it is just stupid and pointless. The Palestinians are not going to get their land back. Too much time has past and the geography has changed. You cannot turn back time, which they themselves have wasted. The Palestinians wasted more time trying to defeat Israel than on building a state. It is time to move on, as other displaced peoples and countries have done throughout history. You cannot keep insisting that the world stop and listen to this. No world court is going to give the land back. Their time has come and gone. The world has more pressing problems like China, which is now treating most of Asia.

  353. Mevashir says:

    https://youtube.com/c/hitlerrantsparodies

    These are a very clever set of parodies based on the movie THE DOWNFALL about Hitler’s final days in the bunker. They offer some comic relief. But watching him impresses me with his intelligence and confidence as a visionary leader as compared to the mediocre scum that infests all American political parties.

    And I repeat my idea that the Zionists should put a statue of Adolf Hitler in the Knesset building and next to the Western Wall to commemorate the true founding father of their Jewish Jihadist State.

    • LOL: Marckus
  354. @Mevashir

    If you think capitalism is so great how do you explain the fact that the United States is so low in almost every metric of social welfare and human happiness?

    I understand you’re a braindead leftard, so there’s hardly any point discussing the issue with you, but questions like this disingenuously ignore the ungodly number of uneducable and largely economically useless negroids (and also plenty of similar such hispanics) in the population.

    “Oh but those were brought in by greedy capitalists.” Which is why every single mainstream leftist party across the western world is even more hysterically pro-immigration than the right. Nice try, lying leftard slime.

    • Thanks: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  355. A123 says:

    The author of that book is Department head at Princeton. Extremely prestigious position. … [show] where the book has been debunked.

    Princeton is a know SJW Islamic Globalist stronghold.

    The fact the book is from Princeton means that that it was debunked before it was even published.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  356. RobinG says:

    Israel’s continued aggression is getting results!

    “Fran & Bibi, you will see, #Palestine will be free!”

  357. A123 says:
    @Da's Reich

    Let me fix that for you:

    Primary responsibility for all deaths lies at the feet of the colonialists,

    In this case,

    MUHAMMAD

    If his Jihadi Colonists had not invaded Palestine ~600 A.D. none of the horrors of Islam would have happened in Palestine.

    The solution for “Peace in Palestine” is self-evident and simple.

    Muslim Decolonization

    Non-native Islamic contamination needs to leave Palestine and return home. Without the horror of the False Prophet, peace would be straightforward.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Da's Reich
  358. @Fran Taubman

    What happened to the Palestinians has happened throughout history. It is the nature of history and warfare where people lose their homes and land…Empires rising and falling cause land ownership changes. This is the way of the world, since before the Norman conquest, in the days of Rome and Genghis Kahn.

    Only a psychopath would claim that murder, theft and rapine are acceptable because they happened sometime, somewhere, to somebody.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Fran Taubman
  359. Mevashir says:
    @silviosilver

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    “Oh but those were brought in by greedy capitalists.” Which is why every single mainstream leftist party across the western world is even more hysterically pro-immigration than the right. Nice try, lying leftard slime.

    What does this paragraph mean? You make no sense.

    America has always been an anti labor society. America has used the coercion of the state to create different forms of welfare capitalism that benefit the rich and powerful in the too big to fail.

    The southern slave economy is a great example. A few wealthy plantation owners were able to Corner the southern agricultural Market by using coercive slave labor. They then used racist tropes to win the support of the middle class whites who themselves could not compete with the free black slave labor of the plantation owners. But racism won the loyalty of these middle class whites (rednecks) to support a system that directly contradicted their own economic interests. This is exactly the same mentality of the Republican rednecks who voted for Trump, who they thought would be their Champion but instead passed tax cuts for billionaires.

    Maybe an honest capitalist system would be workable. But in America there never has been such a thing. Racism was necessary to get whites to support an economic system that was completely antithetical to their own interests.

    And that’s the capitalist evil I’m speaking of. When a small group of financiers (mainly Jewish) profits at the expense of 90% of the rest of society and then uses all sorts of racial and ideological insults to intimidate us when we protest their corruption.

    I’m neither or leftist nor rightist. This is an artificial bogus dichotomy. I support a genuinely Christian political and economic system. And such a thing has never existed in this country.

    As for you, I propose you are the true leftist because you have left your brains behind. My recently deceased wife of blessed memory was Hispanic. She and all of her family members were extremely hard working people. The Hispanics are encouraged to cross into our country because Wall Street wants them as a cheap source of Labor ununionized working without Fair pay or benefits. They are encouraged to come here precisely because they are such hard and honest workers.

    The easiest way to stop the flow of illegal immigrants from the south would be to penalize the giant agricultural growers who use these people as slave laborers in their fields. This is a simple and obvious solution. But it is never done because the financial so-called capitalist interests demand this kind of cheap easily exploitable labor.

    If this is the kind of capitalism you admire then I’m grateful to have brought into the light the darkness that is your soul.

  360. mcohen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    fran

    one thing I find interesting is the fact that people like taxi have been given a platform on mondoweiss and unz.it is almost as if the liberal side of the jewish diaspora is talking to the Conservative side through people like taxi
    Almost like the total jewish consciousness is having this left and right conversation
    let me give you an example of how this works

    malka liefer committed a crime is australia and fled to Israel where she was protected by people like knesset minister yaakov litzman
    Eventually certain pressure was applied in various ways,including from the Australian government.She is now standing trial and litzman is too in Israel.
    These checks and balances in the total jewish consciousness are important on many levels,spiritual and political and social.Before 1948 this jewish consciousness was scattered deliberately to the 4 corners of the globe but now it is united again.

    • LOL: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Taxi
    , @Mevashir
  361. A123 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Only a psychopath would claim that murder, theft and rapine are acceptable because they happened sometime, somewhere, to somebody.

    Will you denounce Muhammad’s murders, Muhammad’s thefts, and Muhammad’s rapes of ~600 AD?

    Only a sociopath, like Ayatollah Khameni, would claim that Muhammad’s depredations are acceptable.

    PEACE 😇

  362. @Commentator Mike

    Only a psychopath would claim that murder, theft and rapine are acceptable because they happened sometime, somewhere, to somebody.

    I never said it was acceptable. I said it was human nature. You have shit for brains. Your comments ( lol) consistently show a misunderstanding of ideas presented. Maybe you should consider a reading comprehension course. You write a lot of nonsense responses. There was noting psychopathic in my post. You might look at your own and others on this site for over the top vitriolic Jew hatred that might be borderline psychopathic and completely hysterical. Show it to a professional therapist and see what they say. Give it a try.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  363. @Mevashir

    ‘I’m not sure if we can say Aaron is lying. He seems to be a very cool headed proponent of liberal forms of Zionism. I think if Israel were filled with more people like him the situation today might be quite different…’

    With time, you’ll become better acquainted with Aaron.

  364. @silviosilver

    ‘…So they fought it out and the Arabs lost. At some point, it becomes time to put the past behind them.’

    It’s difficult to ‘put the past behind you’ if someone’s sitting on your head.

  365. Taxi says:
    @mcohen

    Dude, I have NOTHING to do with Mondoweiss. I despise Mondoweiss with every fiber in me. I see it as part and parcel of the jewish ‘controlled opposition’ brigade. Their pro Palestine stance has many cracks in it – I don’t believe in their sincerity and it’s been years and years since I’ve even visited their site.

    I am at Unz by invitation from the good Mr. Ron Unz. I only accepted the Unz “platform” because there remains this thing we call ‘freedom of speech’ at Unz’s comment section.

    As you already well know, I have my own personal blog and am in no need of other ‘platforms’. I have no interest in actively expanding my reach – my blog is intentionally a non-commercial blog, and I already have a readership that’s always been organically expanding purely on word-of-mouth. If I never again get published at the Unz, well, I won’t exactly be weeping over it.

    And to all them ziocogs talking among themselves non-stop on this thread, I have this to say: eff you, you lost to Gaza, the whole world knows it and is glad. Next chapter: War of Liberation. So stop wasting your time on imagined bravado and start packing already before it’s too late.

    Apartheid-loving jews have but two choices remaining: death on the battlefield, or a humiliating but peaceful exodus. Leave Palestine asap and please take with you all them horrible jewish architects that have ugliefied Historic Palestine with the worst architectural designs the world has ever know.

    • Replies: @mcohen
    , @A123
  366. @A123

    But who am I going to hold accountable for what happened so long ago when all the culprits of those crimes are long dead? Fran is justifying crimes going on in front of our eyes today. And using past crimes of others to justify this.

    • Replies: @A123
  367. @Mevashir

    ‘…The southern slave economy is a great example. A few wealthy plantation owners were able to Corner the southern agricultural Market by using coercive slave labor. They then used racist tropes to win the support of the middle class whites who themselves could not compete with the free black slave labor of the plantation owners. But racism won the loyalty of these middle class whites (rednecks) to support a system that directly contradicted their own economic interests…’

    Slave ownership was not in fact distributed as this suggests.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  368. @RobinG

    This thread now contains large areas of blanks due to the army of ignored zio-trolls who frantically are multiple-posting …
    Your neurosis and paranoia are well-founded, zios …
    Your murders and lies no longer work.

    Thank you for this update, Robin, which contains this —

    … since 1949 when Israel destroyed 400 Palestinian villages and succeeded in its most significant ethnic-cleansing act against the Palestinian population.

    I didn’t know about this.
    Can you indicate a history of the Nakba ?
    Maybe others like me who know abt King David Hotel, Deir Yassin but not the fuller picture of the savagery visited on Palestinians by E European Jews.

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Druid55
  369. @Colin Wright

    Talk about rowing with one oar in the water.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  370. anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    The expulsion of the money changers , disarticulating of the giant dirty squid suffocating the poor Arab ,and the judicial sentencing to deaths of the 7 th century neocons egging on war and profiteering from wars were one of the greatest achievements of the humanity .

    There was in 7 th century ,no rape and there was no preemptive war introduced and popularized by the Ziocons later in 21 century .

  371. @Fran Taubman

    Rubbish. You’re constantly defending Israeli crimes. So of course it implies that you deem them acceptable. What else? Of course you’re a psycho. You even wrote that you want to go with a loaded gun to Israel and perpetrate the crimes yourself. What’s there not to comprehend in your writings?

  372. mcohen says:
    @Taxi

    I feel your pain,I really do.Annie Robbins and crew really liked you.You were great,because you were the person on the ground in Lebanon.I know this was 5 years ago,but hey time flies when the crow cries.

    Remember that.Time flies when the crow cries.

    PS I was walking around canmore in Canada 2019 and I saw this guy and his wife and I could have sworn it was Phil Weiss from mondoweiss.

    Who knows.Taxi……..may I offer you a farmer’s prophecy.

  373. AaronB says:
    @silviosilver

    You’re misrepresenting what happened.

    The UN offered it’s Partition Plan. The Jews gladly accepted. The Arabs flatly refused.

    The Arabs then began attacking Jewish towns and convoys, etc, and the surrounding Arab states declared their intent to invade and destroy the nascent Jewish state, making good on their promise shortly after. (Obviously there was violence between the two communities well before this, but this is how the 48 war started)

    Most observers at the time thought the Jews had little chance against the Arabs, a ‘martial’ people according to the British taxonomy lol, and the Arabs certainly thought they would make short work of the Jews. Even Hilaire Beloc thought the Jews would have to remain under the defense of the British indefinitely, and would not be able to defend themselves – Beloc was an HBDist of his time, and this should be a cautionary note.

    I do indeed urge everyone to read standard histories, or at least Wikipedia, and judge for yourself.

    It’s funny, Silvio, you’re trying to paint Israel as this unabashed ethnonationalist aggressor because you like that kind of thing and want to emulate it, while Colin is trying to condemn Israel on that basis.

    Unfortunately for you guys, you’re simply incorrect.

  374. A123 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Palestinian Jews are legally and legitimately reclaiming Jewish Palestine from Muslim colonists. The Muslim occupation is resisting.

    What alternate tactics do you recommend that will successfully reclaim Jewish land?

    The reality of the situation is that Palestinian Jews are using the minimum amount of might to deal with the non-indigenous Muslim occupation. If a military mistake is being made, it is using too little force.

    If the followers of Muhammad do not like it, there is an easy — 100% success guaranteed — option entirely under their control. Muslims can return home.

    PEACE 😇

  375. Mevashir says:

    For all who doubt Israeli ruthlessness and duplicity please see the following articles over at Veterans Today.

    What I thought I knew about the 9/11 cover up is barely scratching the surface. According to VT it was a full-throated nuclear attack by the Israelis and corrupt American officials on New York City.

    They discuss the Israeli art students, who were really nuclear terrorists, who were knowingly deported from the country by corrupt American law enforcement officials.

    They discuss the enormous craters beneath the WTC complex, a football field in length and in depth, that could only be produced by a nuclear device:

    [MORE]

    +++++++++++++++++++

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/11/01/the-secret-history-of-9-11/
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/23/precursor-to-cv-19-yes-we-mean-9-11/
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/03/23/precursor-to-cv-19-yes-we-mean-9-11/
    “The real purpose of the 9/11 attack was much more than taking down the World Trade Center. Imagine New York City, the WTC “evaporated,” the George Washington Bridge sitting in the Hudson, the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels flooded, hundreds drowned and the city entirely cut off and in full panic mode while police and fire radios were jammed.”

    +++++++++++++++++++

    When their report was not made public, the team released the highly classified photographs showing the huge nuclear crater with melted swirls of granite bedrock. The first nuclear explosion turned the Nevada desert to glass. Jet fuel cannot do this, neither can nanothermite.

    Add to all these signs, the molten metal in the footprints of WTC 1, 2, and 7 that for three months could not be extinguished by water or daily soil changes as it consumed concrete, steel, glass, office combustibles. The increasing incidence of radiation-only cancers from residents is another tell-tale sign of a nuclear “event.” There were also aerial photographs of steam “upwellings” that were pouring out of street gratings two and three blocks south of the WTC, or Ground Zero.

    “Then there is the extraordinarily high temperatures (800-1,300 F) of the WTC s surface heat after 9/11. It was recorded on September 16, 2001, by NASA s thermal-sensitive cameras in aerial photographs shot at 6,500 feet. Those data were reflected in the unusually lengthy period-September 11 to December 19-it took for extinguishing the pools of molten metals in basement levels of all three skyscrapers. In fact, the hottest surface places recorded on the “Pile” by September 16 were WTC 1 (1,376 F), WTC 2 (1,1340 F), and WTC 7 (1160 F).”

    “Steel toes would often heat up and become intolerable. This heat was also a concern for the search-and-rescue dogs used at the site. Many were not outfitted with protective booties. More than one suffered serious injuries and at least three died while working at Ground Zero.”

    “Instead of heat subsiding within a week, as is generally the case for major fires, the astronomically elevated heat levels remained for three months.

    “Cleanup vendor Bechtel Corporation-with 40 employees at the Pile-issued this comment about working conditions:

    “The debris pile at Ground Zero was always tremendously hot. Thermal measurements taken by helicopter each day showed underground temperatures ranging from 400 F to more than 2,800 F.

    The surface was so hot that standing too long in one spot softened (and even melted) the soles of our safety shoes.”

  376. Mevashir says:
    @mcohen

    These checks and balances in the total jewish consciousness are important on many levels, spiritual and political and social. Before 1948 this jewish consciousness was scattered deliberately to the 4 corners of the globe but now it is united again.

    Self righteous lying assh*le. It was ONLY pressure from Australia that finally forced Israel to cough up this sex abusing b*tch and send her back for trial. Without that pressure Jewish Israel covered up and obfuscated her crimes for 14 years, denying Justice to the Jewish victims of this horrible woman.

    Your outrageously dishonest comment reminds me of this Jewish joke:

    What’s the definition of chutzpah? When a man murders both his parents and then asks the court for leniency because he’s now an orphan!

  377. @Mevashir

    The southern slave economy is a great example. A few wealthy plantation owners were able to Corner the southern agricultural Market by using coercive slave labor. They then used racist tropes to win the support of the middle class whites who themselves could not compete with the free black slave labor of the plantation owners. But racism won the loyalty of these middle class whites (rednecks) to support a system that directly contradicted their own economic interests. This is exactly the same mentality of the Republican rednecks who voted for Trump, who they thought would be their Champion but instead passed tax cuts for billionaires.

    There was no racial loyalty between poor whites, who were the vast majority of whites in the South, and wealthy whites. The middle class was very small by comparison, especially after the Civil War.

    An honest view of race is that the different groups do not function well together, and that no group wants to be dominated by another, financially, culturally, politically, or otherwise. That’s why blacks (and whites today) were able to be used as a political issue.

    As for hispanics (my guess is that you don’t call them wetbacks), they are also brought here to further dilute the nation, and for uninformed votes for the left. Many are not hard working, decent, honest, or anything a society would want.

    Trump is a clown and a crook, and I think many of his voters understood this. It makes more sense to bash the establishment for making Trump electable, than to bash the people who rolled the dice on him.

  378. A123 says:
    @Taxi

    Violent Hezbollah lost Lebanon when the Nasrallah-shima blast leveled the Beirut port killing hundreds, maiming thousands, and leaving tens of thousands homeless.

    Violent Hamas is losing Gaza by “friendly fire” killing hundreds, maiming thousands, and leaving tens of thousands homeless.

    Trying to fictionalize catastrophic defeat into victory is self deception, that can only lead to more dead Muslim children. Mostly killed by their fellow Muslims. The whole world knows that Ayatollah Khameni is the primary problem, which is why Israel, Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Saudi, etc. Are all partnering against the current regime. When the Iranian theocracy is torn down (by the Iranian people), funding for the Jihadi occupation in Palestine will end.

    Apartheid loving Islam needs to start packing and leave Palestine. The term exodus does not apply, as Islam is not an indigenous faith. How about “Right to East Bank Return” or just “Right to Homeland Return“?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  379. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    Every Ivy League school is completely overrun with and controlled by Jews. When I attended Harvard (1980) 1/3 of the students were Jewish and 50% of the faculty. How does that make it an Islamist stronghold?

    The author of the book Peter Schaefer is a proud Zionist Jew who asserts in the book that not only does the Talmud malign Jesus but it does so justifiably and provides the justifiable attitude of Judaism to this day denouncing Jesus as a false prophet and an evil man.

    I asked you for links showing how his book has been debunked and instead you reply with ignorant slurs and character assassination. Typical Jewish behavior when you try to defend the indefensible.

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHguXsOn8JB7nJL0kDTZUpvww3vZd23on3KQ&usqp=CAU

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Fran Taubman
  380. Marckus says:
    @Alfred

    You are absolutely right. As a matter of fact white farms in South Africa, handed over to blacks, are in ruins, many not only unproductive but returning to bush. Zimbabwe is no different if not worse but SA seems determined to do the same. Inflation got to the point where one had to hire an armoured truck to transport the cash to buy a loaf of bread.

    What with the continuing farm murders the country is slowly sinking into the void and soon into privation and starvation mostly for the blacks. The abolition of Apartheid has done nothing for them. Their own exploit and abuse them more than the white government ever did.

    What is a dreadful irony and double tragedy is that blacks working on the white farms are thrown out of work. Also, SA being the last shining star in the area attracted the shit from the rest of the continent. Many white areas subsequently occupied by blacks are now slums and black leaders, in typical fashion, do not live in black townships but in the most exclusive ‘hoods.

    Julius Malema has a very nice mansion in Sandton and tools around in a fleet of Benz. He looks plump and well fed while his followers live in shacks, cannot afford a bicycle and look half starved.

    As for the Capetonian responding to your comment, what he has to say is sheer rubbish. A black businessman typically gets extra points for government work but produces substandard work, Corruption is at heights that make the Biden family look like crumb snatchers. Show me the successful black businessman in SA and I will show you someone involved in pork barrel transactions, graft, kickbacks and outright criminality and corruption. There is no “business acumen” among this lot.

    Finally, Western Cape wit its preponderance of whites and coloureds is better managed than the other areas, state enterprises like Sasol, Escom etc are disasters and Ramaphosa seems to be bringing back whites to run these organizations. South African airlines which used to be top class is a shit show, the military once so feared is a rabble and neighbouring countries (like Mozambique) still use SA whites and white trained soldiers as independent contractors to bring order to the seemingly constant turmoil in their countries.

    Disaster and ruin are the children of the black man wherever he goes and whatever he does whether in Africa, Europe, the West Indies or the US.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Anon
  381. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    Will you denounce Muhammad’s murders, Muhammad’s thefts, and Muhammad’s rapes of ~600 AD?

    If this was Muhammad’s MO, why did the Jewish tribes of Medina invite him to take refuge in their city from his enemies in Mecca? Why did they nominate him to be ruler over their city? Why did they make a solemn treaty to defend his interests against the Meccan pagans? (It was only when they violated that treaty and tried to sabotage his defense against the Meccan attackers that he took Revenge by expelling one Jewish tribe, enslaving another, and killing the third.)

    SALAAM 😘

  382. Mevashir says:
    @Marckus

    I knew a Jewish leftist from South Africa who was an anti-apartheid activist. Shortly after the ANC took over the government, he packed his bags and moved to Australia where he set up a practice as a Buddhist psychotherapist in an exclusive all white neighborhood of Sydney.

    I guess he accomplished his mission to help destroy his once great Homeland and moved on to another target.

  383. A123 says:
    @Mevashir

    Again, we thank you for your multiple admissions that you an Iranian propaganda corps operative. Your inarticulate writing is proof that you never attended Harvard.

    Your desperate flailing trying to blood libel Judeo-Christians has resulted in a credibility of zero.

    I feel pity for you.

    PEACE 😇

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Avery
    , @Mevashir
  384. @Fran Taubman

    You couldn’t strangle a wet noodle if it was clued to your hand. You are an impotent wannabe brute. That is just a shame. You can get your rocks off taking to me. Sweat dreams.

  385. Canute says:
    @Alfred

    Thank you for that enlightening bit of historical analysis. An encapsulated version of the same thing happened in a North American metropolitan region called Detroit.

  386. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    A123 CONFIRMS ISRAELI FALSE FLAG NUCLEAR ATTACK ON BEIRUT

    Violent Hezbollah lost Lebanon when the Nasrallah-shima blast leveled the Beirut port killing hundreds, maiming thousands, and leaving tens of thousands homeless.

    Is your “Nasrallah-shima” a Freudian slip or maybe just bragging?
    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/08/04/trump-says-us-generals-feel-beirut-blast-was-likely-an-attack/
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08/27/dissecting-the-beirut-coverup-ammonium-nitrate-not-explosive-and-lebanon-was-nuked-before/
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/09/08/beirut-massacre-for-a-missile-lebanon-president-and-italian-military-expert-said-thermal-rings-the-proof/

    I suspect even Satan himself doesn’t want JüdenLügen (Kikelying) Jinns sharing hell with him.

    SALAAM (but not to JüdenLügen) 😘

    Lüger —–>LüdenJüden🔧🔨✂️

    • Replies: @A123
  387. Anon[334] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marckus

    So it’s alright to have an Apartheid system cuz it can do good business?

    I’d love to come over to your place and Apartheid the fuck out of you and your house and call it good business.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  388. Avery says:
    @A123

    There is no such thing as “Judeo-Christian”. It’s a bogus term that was created, if I am not mistaken, here in the US in the 30s by Christians: the purpose was to show solidarity with Jews at the time of raging anti-Semitism in Europe.

    Christianity (the religion) has nothing in common with the Jewish religion.
    Conversely, Jewish religious practices are closer to Islamic religious practices.
    Sexual mutilation of boys; prohibition against eating pork (not my thing either); eating Halal/Kosher; and so on. The fact that for both Jews and Muslims the week ends on Saturday, not Sunday as for Christians. Our start of the week is Monday: for Muslims and Jews it’s Sunday.

    And as far as I know, Orthodox Jews in Israel are extremely hostile towards Christians there, who, btw, have been there for centuries, if not millennia.
    And Orthodox Jews are as irrationally fanatical as radical Islamists.

    • Replies: @A123
  389. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    I don’t know why Ron Unz permits mocking blatant Liars to comment on his site. It’s a terrible disappointment and I’m going to bow out from trying to comment here. Ultimately it is futile trying to reason with Nazionist liars and satanists.

    Lüger ——> LügenJüden

    You don’t deserve to know the truth about me or anything else because you are a vile liar and hater of Truth and decency, but for the sake of the others here are four people who knew me at Harvard 1976-1980. You are welcome to contact them and ask if Michael Korn attended. I have as much history at Harvard as Ron Unz!

    [email protected]
    Dr Ira Nash — Harvard roommate
    [email protected]
    Attorney Stephen Spitz — friend
    [email protected]
    Dr Jeffrey Hayes — academic advisor
    [email protected]
    Dr William Bossert — Lowell House Residency Dean.

    • Agree: Druid55
    • Replies: @RobinG
  390. @Mevashir

    Every Ivy League school is completely overr Every Ivy League school is completely overrun with and controlled by Jews. When I attended Harvard (1980) 1/3 of the students were Jewish and 50% of the faculty.

    Do you have any statistics to back this claim? Ron did a lengthy statistical analysis in 2013 where he claimed 25% of Harvard students were Jewish. A claim ripped to shreds by a professor of statistic modeling at Columbia. To shreds. Statistical modeling based on Jewish surnames is very unreliable. Many Jewish surnames from Poland are not in fact Jewish. When you look at this article read the comments to understand how wrong Ron’s modeling is. I doubt you have any proof of this because it is incorrect. Factually incorrect like all bullshit you write.
    Identifying who is a Jew for roundup an deportation of Jews for a final solution is going to prove really hard. How to identify who is a Jew? A grandparent. A great grandparent? Self identifying. True blue Jew haters will never accept self identification. It does not fit the conspiracy. That Jews are hiding in plain site. You are in trouble Menachem.

    https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2013/02/12/that-claim-that-harvard-admissions-discriminate-in-favor-of-jews-after-checking-the-statistics-maybe-not/

  391. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Useful historical documents and primary sources :

    State of Terror: How Terrorism Created Modern Israel –
    by Thomas Suarez

    Massacre and expulsion of Arab by 90,000-120,000 well trained regualr army, militia and WW2 using WW2 arsenals veteran Isareli manpower vs 25,000-30,000 Arab power mostky peasants uisng WW1 miitary left over .

    Haganh itself had 80,000 soliders.
    March, 20th, 1947, New York Times
    Feb 29,1948 New York Times
    April 16, 1948 New York Times
    April 18 ,1948New York Times
    May 2nd, 1948 New York Times
    May 3rd, 1948 New York Times
    May 14th, 1948. New York Times

    Zionism and the State of Israel: A Moral Inquiry by Michael Prior

    Quicksand: America’s Pursuit of Power in the Middle East
    by Geoffrey Wawr

    The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
    by Ilan Pappe |

    Israel in the Mind of America
    by Peter Grose

    Mythologies Without End: The US, Israel, and the Arab-Israeli Conflict, 1917-2020 ,by Jerome Slater

    Israeli Peace/Palestinian Justice: Liberation Theology and the Peace Process Paperback –
    by Thomas Arc and Thomas L. Are

    (Hello Fran Taubamn ,you must have been told about these books in the past and have been educated by the informatiosn buried in the archives of NYTimes )

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  392. A123 says:
    @Mevashir

    Every objective look at Hezbollah Munitions Depot #12 has confirmed that the ~3MM tons of NH4-NO3 stored there is consistent with the Nasrallah-shima blast damage in Beirut.

    Bear in mind that we *know* Nasrallah stored other explosives in his Depot #12. Audio evidence includes audible small rounds going off. Fireworks were also present.

    Your missile attack fiction has been shredded: (2)

      

    Veterans Today is a corrupt site that was thoroughly debunked years ago. (1)

    One of the most popular Sandy Hook conspiracy theories blames “Israeli death squads” for the massacre. That claim was given wide play by Iran’s Press TV in an opinion piece by Mike Harris, an extremist whose bland-sounding website, Veterans Today, is a clearinghouse of anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

    Veterans Today was recently caught by someone on this site mislabelling War Crimes by Erdogan’s Muslim Terrorist Brotherhood as Israeli. I will look around for that link.
    ___

    Again, your sources give you away as an incredibly incompetent operative of the Iranian propaganda corps.

    Alas, this thread has now reached ~400 replies and is no longer rendering efficiently on my device. I may not be able to see your comedy act going forward. Rest assured though:

    We are all laughing at you, not with you.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-do-jews-and-israel-so-often-feature-at-center-of-conspiracy-theories/

    (2) https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2020/08/analyzed-footage-of-beirut-explosion-suggesting-missile-attack-is-actually-fake/

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Taxi
  393. A123 says:
    @A123

    ADDENDUM:

    Here is the key information by UR poster Avery debunking “Veterans Today” (1)

    I watched both videos.

    3. The most telling fact that this video is NOT from Israel is towards the end: there is a street sign on the top left of the screen. It says “Turizm Bürosu”. It’s in Turkish. So video is from some street demonstration and street fight somewhere in Turkey. (or maybe Azerbaijan).

    VeteransToday either got conned themselves, or they are just spreading Disinformation BS.

    VT has been burned so many times from all sides, no one should believe it.

    FYI: Avery does not like me, so you cannot claim we are in some sort of conspiracy together…

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/the-image-of-victory/#comment-4682946

  394. RobinG says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    ON THE NAKBA,

    Perhaps you’re familiar with https://ifamericansknew.org/ The site is encyclopedic, and under the History tab the Nakba will be addressed somewhere.

    There are others here at Unz who really read books, and may have personal favorites. I’ve learned from an accumulation of articles, seminars, interviews, conferences, etc. Going by reputation (and what I know of him in person), Ilan Paappe’s book tops the list –

    WRMEA (the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs) is a great resource. They also sponsor an annual conference on the Israel Lobby. Both the archive of articles and videos of speakers are online, but I haven’t figured how best to search the magazine.

    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  395. @AaronB

    You’re misrepresenting what happened.

    The UN offered it’s Partition Plan. The Jews gladly accepted. The Arabs flatly refused.

    I can understand why you’re unwilling to let go of this figleaf of morality. Without it, it was just a contest of brute strength, two peoples fighting over one land, in which the Jews came out tops – but it may just as well have been the Arabs, and if so no one today would care. But with the figleaf in place, you can pretend that it was right that the Jews prevailed, and that it would have been wrong had the Arabs done so.

    For those interested in reality rather figleaves, ben Gurion and his gang had no illusions about the partition plan’s inadequacy – ie war was on their agenda – and the necessity of “transferring” (ie expelling) the Arab residents that came under Israeli control.

    My view is that what was done was done. The Arabs had a moral right to try to win back what they had lost for a few decades, but that expired around, say, 1982 – as a convenient date. In my reading of history, that is the basic way that conflicts of this nature are resolved. There is, of course, an additional complicating factor, which is the Israeli expansion of 1967, which had the effect of extending the Arabs’ time horizon for military rectification, but by now that too has expired.

    I am by no means some “lover of Zion.” If Israel ceased to exist, I could scarcely bring myself to care. It is the possible manner in which it might cease that concerns me. To see it fall to Hamas or Iran or have it democratically dismantled in a “rainbow” peace deal (a la South Africa)? That would be a tremendous setback for my political interests, and it’s enough to incline me to a pro-Israel stance. Israelis today scorn the kind of “support” I offer, but they shouldn’t neglect it entirely, for they might some day find it’s the only sort available.

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @AaronB
  396. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    Is this the same Spitz, now retired, who is Co-Chair of the End Corporate Rule Issue Organizing Team for Progressive Democrats of America?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  397. When the pro-Israel trolls arrive en masse, that’s how you know you are doing something right…

  398. @Mevashir

    What does this paragraph mean? You make no sense.

    It means that you neglect to blame leftists for their immigration stance, which is even more extreme than that of rightwing parties, whose higher-ups are at least forced to temper their enthusiasm out of necessity to appeal to their own constituencies, whereas leftists have no such brakes.

    Anyway, I had it in mind to reply to you with a much more harshly worded response. To wish death and doom upon you. To want see you end your days out on the street, in the heart of nword-town, cold and miserable, broke in both pocketbook and spirit. Such is my devastating loathing for the leftist slime I hold uniquely responsible for the dire straits that Europeans the world over shall shortly find themselves in.

    Yet, something in your measured responses to heated attacks touched me. I am not a brute. I am simply deeply troubled and uncertain about what the future holds for the people and civilization I care about most, and this sometimes causes me to lash out intemperately.

    I hope you do not abandon this site, as you suggested you might. Though it is unlikely I will ever agree with you on very much, I think your perspectives would be an asset to the site, not a burden.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  399. Druid55 says:
    @Sarah

    You deserve nothing but the hell that is the home of your satan/moloch

  400. Druid55 says:
    @Mevashir

    Hope you didn’t comply

  401. @anon

    (Hello Fran Taubamn ,you must have been told about these books in the past and have been educated by the informatiosn buried in the archives of NYTimes )

    Yes I am aware of these books and the idea that Israel unfairly stole Palestinian land and ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Do you understand that throughout world history there are different versions of how wars are started, who is to blame and who profited? There are two sides to this story especially after Jordan stole the West Bank and Jerusalem and ethnically cleansed the Jews from those areas. How many versions exist about civil war, WW1, WW2. Etc. Illan Papp has been refuted and he is found to be biased and has an agenda.

    -While all these ideas are refuted and re refuted, there are a few facts that are irrefutable .
    The Arabs refused to allow the partitioning of land to allow an independent Jewish state, having lived with Jews within Arab states since biblical times, and aware of the stateless European Jews after the war. A peaceful solution could have been found.

    – The Arabs did not want the Jews do have an independent country for religious reasons not for the Palestinian cause. They did not recognize the Palestinians as an independent group of people The Arabs were fighting for Pan Arabism and Islam. They were not interested in creating an independent Palestinians state for Palestinians. The Palestinians are a false identity invented after 1967. A phony claim. Which is why it has failed so miserably. There is no single defining character, language, coinage or leaders that are Palestinian. Unlike Judaism which has a language, coinage, and Kings dating back to biblical times. The Jews have succeeded in creating an authentic identity.

    – The most irrefutable of the irrefutable is that the Jews won and the Arabs lost. Hashing over history is irrelevant to the situation as it is now in the ME. You cannot go back because you think what happened was unfair or that the land was stolen. It is what it is. The Jews are not giving the land back. It is time to move forward and reconcile the situation as best as possible. Islam is not going to cause Israel to disappear, it is too strong a country militarily and has world class infrastructure and citizens devoted to its safety. It is not run by a dictator who lords over the masses. The people of Gaza have no choice regarding Hamas leadership. Hezbollah, Hamas and Iran, known as the axis of resistance, are fanatic and plan to take over Israel and turn it into an Islamic country. No one wants that. Overwhelmingly the functioning part of the world wants Israel to survive and will not be snookered into a scenario that looks peaceful but ultimately will cause the destruction of Israel. These groups have many other ideas regarding Islam and the West that are dangerous beyond the destruction of Israel. The Iranian people would love to make peace with Israel. I know many Muslim Iranians, that hate the Mullahs. These groups are fanatical and dangerous to everyone.

    • Replies: @anon
  402. lydia says:
    @noName

    @fadiquran
    ·
    May 28
    Remember: There’s no ceasefire in the dictionary of settler colonialism. Below is an image of a new settler outpost being established in the village of Beita in #Palestine.

    The Israeli military just killed Zakaria Hamayel while protesting against this land theft. He was 28.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/523875-israel-gaza-air-strikes-war-crimes/

    Israel is deliberately obliterating media buildings in Gaza to cover up the war crimes that will follow

  403. @RobinG

    Thanks Robin

    I had heard of Ilan Pappe but not read anything by him. In fact apart from early history I only know snippets, looked in some detail at the last horror of Op Cast Lead but basically very scattergun. Ilan Pappe is a systematic history, which I like and now have in Kindle. Tx. Respect to Ilan Pappe.

    That website looks very valuable, even to me a non-American.
    Crimes against children, a true mark of the demon.
    This vdo is from that site, posted just a few days ago.
    Posting it for the many zio-trolls —

    Your name is Written in Hell, Tubman and company…
    Take a look at this you wretched demons —

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  404. Mevashir says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    Your name is Written in Hell, Tubman and company…
    Take a look at this you wretched demons —

    You don’t understand Arthur. They enjoy looking at this stuff. You might as well taunt Hugh Hefner with a porn magazine.

  405. anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You are pretty good at opining and making statements . But you don’t have facts on your side to support any of the claims or the attitude of LOL .

    Israel will disappear under its own weight made much more heavier than it was in 1948.Zionism will survive as a prayer “Next Year in Jerusalem but th dream of returning trashed by the same mentality that had witnessed the slow leaking out and trekking out throughout the centuries once the power or the hinterland supporting its existence were gone.

  406. @Mevashir

    Michael were you born in Baltimore? Did you attend Harvard Hillel?

    • Agree: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
  407. Mevashir says:
    @silviosilver

    SS:

    Thank you for sparing me from the full force of your anger. A123 is bad enough with his withering scorn. He’s extremely Adept at his Israeli propaganda so I suspect he is some kind of professional. You don’t have to worry about me. I am only an amateur. I live in section 8 housing. I am banned from local churches and synagogues. I would never be hired out by Iran because of my public criticisms of Islam and the Qur’an. Unlike the Israeli hasberists I defy easy categorization.

    When I lived in South Africa I was a supporter of the ANC, much to the horror of the Afrikaaner family of my wife at that time. Over the years I’ve come to see that they were correct and I was wrong. I should have seen the writing on the wall when I was mugged at knifepoint and later hijacked in downtown Johannesburg.

    If I might offer the following perspective to you: It seems to me that you and all of the Israel-haters are in a bit of a conundrum. On the one hand Israel demonstrates merciless resolve confronting people who are dark-skinned and Muslim, two categories you seem to loathe. So I would expect you might automatically sympathize with the Israelis. Is your opposition based on the fact that you consider their supporters worldwide responsible for the destruction of white culture and racial intermingling? I’m genuinely interested to know.

    I know that the Hasidic groups in New York who are also hated by many people on this thread overwhelmingly voted to support Trump. Indeed I recall an article about the community in Crown Heights of Brooklyn where one Hassid proudly stated that their neighborhood is a “red state”!

    Trump’s closest allies were Rich Jewish gambling Moguls and real estate attorneys whom he appointed as his officials in Israel. These kinds of people generally speaking are racist and almost always hated by the black community for being labor abusers and slumlords. Again this seems another point of convergence with your own anti-black sentiments.

    I guess what I am saying is you seem conflicted between your hatred of third world dark-skinned people — where the Jews might be your natural allies — and your hatred of Jews for being different from Christian Europeans. Am I stating things accurately here?

    I don’t think Netanyahu and the Israeli right support the Muslim inflow into Europe, but I am not sure. Netanyahu is closely allied with Orbin of Hungary and other right-wing European leaders who often are anti-Semitic! In other words he is allied with European leaders who themselves are anti-immigration. So wouldn’t that make you inclined to support or at least respect Netanyahu and the Israeli right?
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/hungarys-orban-visits-western-wall-to-wrap-up-israel-visit/

    My only reservation is given the Israeli role in promoting ISIS in the destruction of Syria and perhaps the invasion of Libya they must have realized that there would be an immigration catastrophe and most likely these people would head to Europe, so perhaps Netanyahu and his colleagues are complicit in the immigration problems affecting Europe. Their behavior and their rhetoric might contradict themselves.

    It means that you neglect to blame leftists for their immigration stance, which is even more extreme than that of rightwing parties, whose higher-ups are at least forced to temper their enthusiasm out of necessity to appeal to their own constituencies, whereas leftists have no such brakes.

    Regarding the Box quote from above, could we agree that the Wall Street interests favor the inflow of cheap labor immigrants whatever their race? Is it possible that the leftists that you claim are behind this flood of immigration are orchestrated by the Wall Street financial masters?

    I personally have never seen welfare freeloading Hispanics. Wherever I’ve lived in this country I see Hispanic people hard at work as gardeners Street laborers construction crewman or gathering produce on huge farms. I’m not aware of concentrated Hispanic ghettos like the black ones all over the country.

    I’ve never lived in Los Angeles where I have heard about the large Hispanic gangs. But in all the places I have resided I have seen Hispanic people hard at work in pretty degrading blue collar labor, living in very difficult conditions, and carefully guarding their money to send it back to their families in their home countries.

    Something else to consider please. I have noted in the past that the number of Hispanic immigrants both legal and illegal roughly corresponds to the number of abortions that Americans have indulged in since 1973. I don’t think that is a coincidence. The Hispanics who come here to replace these aborted Americans are almost always Roman Catholic and anti-abortion Pro lifers. Something to think about.

    Given the claims of many anti-abortion groups that blacks are overwhelmingly the victims of abortion, do you favor abortion as a way to limit the growth of the underclass black populations?

  408. ” … this is as much a British and American war against Palestine as it is an Israeli one”

    Veteran journalist John Pilger interviewed on RT last week.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  409. My problem with supporting Palestinians and Muslims isn’t that that I support Israel or the actions of western governments and militaries in the region. I’d love to see our war criminals and their masters handed over to their victims for the Gadaffi treatment, and Israel left isolated economically, politically and militarily, awaiting its fate. That would be justice.

    Palestians and Muslims, in general, refuse to see average Americans as victims of the same forces that are attacking them, and always align with the globalists and Jews against whites when they come to the West, which makes me less sympathetic to them. I acknowledge that Palestinians and Muslims have been horribly wronged and that they have a right to not be scattered, invaded, or demographically replaced by anyone. Unfortunately, they never extend the same sympathies to the natives of the West, and they often ally with Jews on every issue other than Palestine. Getting emotionally involved in the PI issue takes focus from our own dispossession.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  410. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I was born in Boston and yes I did attend Harvard Hillel. The rabbi at that time was named Ben Tzion Gold.

    My family moved to Bethesda Maryland when I was 2 years old. Perhaps you are confusing that with Baltimore?

    Follow up to Silvio:

    When I attended Harvard I took a class in international relations that was taught by a young graduate student named Elliot Cohen, who went on to become a leading neocon in the Bush Administration and a big proponent of the invasion of iraq. Elliot was married at that time and his wife Judy was the head of the Harvard Hillel program. So they were both pretty traditional Jews.

    One day in our class he shocked Us by stating that if Hitler had not been so anti-semitic, he would have made an ideal American ally! You can imagine how that went over to a bunch of liberal starry eyed Harvard undergraduates!

    Over the years I’ve come to respect Hitler as a visionary leader. I read once that in the 1933 election 80% of German Jews voted for the Nazi party. They hoped that a strong German leader would be good for them as well.

    So this goes to my question to Silvio. If Jews Like Elliot Cohen and many of the neocons are instinctively right-wing, anti-communist, conservative in moral values, and willing to confront Islam at Great risk to their lives in property, why aren’t right wing Christian Americans willing to support them and Ally with them?

    The only explanation I can see to explain this discrepancy is that white American and European Christians have become isolationist while the Jewish neocons are internationalist due to the vulnerability of Israel and the relative puniness of the global Jewish population. Do you think that is a valid explanation?

  411. Mevashir says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    Palestians and Muslims, in general, refuse to see average Americans as victims of the same forces that are attacking them, and always align with the globalists and Jews against whites when they come to the West, which makes me less sympathetic to them.

    Can you explain this? I am not aware of this at all. Who organizes all the anti Israel demonstrations on college campuses if not Palestinian and Muslim groups? How do they align with globalists?

    Unless you are claiming that anyone who is successful and prosperous in America automatically becomes suspect as a globalist?

    When I lived in North Carolina I met a Palestinian Christian who was a real estate agent and owned a popular Middle Eastern restaurant. He had become very successful in America, but he constantly yearned for his village back in Palestine. He told me he would sometimes fly there to visit and had to get special permission from the IDF to walk in the fields that belonged to his family. It was extremely humiliating for him. So I would never say he is a globalist. However he was a very successful American businessman.

  412. @Mevashir

    Over the years, I have tergiversated on the question of Israel. My current stance is outlined in post #401 of this thread, in which I do indeed reason as you suggest. (“Israel demonstrates merciless resolve confronting people who are dark-skinned and Muslim” – although I must point out that it’s Africans, specifically, I feel so strongly about, rather skin tone per se.)

    Is your opposition based on the fact that you consider their supporters worldwide responsible for the destruction of white culture and racial intermingling?

    I can’t say yes or no without providing some background.

    When I made my first foray into racial real-talk on the internet, I did so as an opponent of ‘anti-semitism’, on the assumption that people who hate Jews for racial reasons can be expected to also hate me for racial reasons. (If I interspersed old photographs of my extended family, all sitting around grouped together as was once customary, among similar Jewish photos, one would be hard pressed to tell the difference.)

    Over time, however, the arguments of the ‘anti-semites’ wore me down, and I had to admit they had good cause for grievances. This troubled me, because, on the one hand, some of these were precisely the reasons I felt I owed Jews a debt of gratitude – to wit, the taming of once furious northern European attitudes towards quite obvious southern Europeans like me. On the other hand, I could no longer contain the frustration I felt with immigration and “diversity” baloney, and specifically the mendacity surrounding the nature of the negroid, and this race’s incursion into my living space. Learning of the outsized Jewish role in this sham did indeed make want to strike back at Jews by injuring Israel. (I like to think I made a couple of original contributions to responses to Zionist talking points; at least I hadn’t seen them anywhere else before making them myself.)

    These kinds of people generally speaking are racist and almost always hated by the black community for being labor abusers and slumlords. Again this seems another point of convergence with your own anti-black sentiments.

    Not really. I regard this as a pointless kind of racism (if indeed it is even that). My objective isn’t to mistreat or hurt or sneer at blacks or to “keep them in their place”; I simply wish to be apart from them. If I had some assurance that it would lead to greater apartness, I would happily increase the level of welfare afforded them. I doubt that is an attitude shared by the slumlords you associate me with. (And I should note that, to me, this is merely one aspect of the entire racial conundrum, albeit a very important one.)

    Is it possible that the leftists that you claim are behind this flood of immigration are orchestrated by the Wall Street financial masters?

    I make no claims about its origin. It could well be just as you say, entirely engineered by moneyed interests. I blame the left for helping perpetuate it, for demanding the pace of demographic transformation (racial transmogrification, really ) be stepped up, and for muzzling opponents as “racists” and ruining our livelihoods. They have much to answer for.

  413. @Mevashir

    I don’t think Netanyahu and the Israeli right support the Muslim inflow into Europe, but I am not sure.

    I have wondered about this myself. On the one hand, it creates obvious difficulties for European Jews – even for those muddle-headed Jews who actually believe in ‘diversity’ swill. On the other hand, it has a positive impact on Jews making aliyah, and it also places Europeans in a position to sympathize with Zionist issues with Muslims/Arabs. If there is deliberate Zionist support for inundating Europe with Muslims, perhaps it rests on an assumption that European support for a decisive final “transfer” of Palestinians would be more forthcoming if Europeans themselves increasingly felt such a response was necessary to deal with their own Muslim populations. That’s quite speculative, but I don’t regard it as wildly conspiratorial. (Certainly if I, a nobody, has thought about it, it stands to reason that it may have crossed the minds of people paid to think about such things.)

    Given the claims of many anti-abortion groups that blacks are overwhelmingly the victims of abortion, do you favor abortion as a way to limit the growth of the underclass black populations?

    Most certainly, although I would not describe them as “victims.” This was recently a topic of discussion at Audacious Epigone’s.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  414. @Mevashir

    Michael,

    I was right about you. You are a confused mentally unstable person. You were arrested for threatening a University of Colorado professor. I read the letters you wrote to him. It was not your viewpoint at issue, you wrote threateningly and incoherently to the professor. Much like your writing on this blog. You make no sense and wildly swing from thought to thought. You yourself said you are baned from churches and Synagogues. Your thoughts are very confused and disorganized. I hope you do not mind if I end conversing with you.

    https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/07/threats-against-university-of-colorado-biologist

    Michael you have your own Wiki page.
    https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Suspect_in_Colorado_anti-evolution_death_threats_case_is_missing

    [MORE]

    Young Earth Creationist Menachem “Michael” Korn, suspected of sending death threats to various biology faculty and others at the University of Colorado at Boulder, is apparently missing or on the lam. Although the police said they will not name the individual in question until the person is arrested, previous reports and comments by faculty and staff at the university made it clear that Korn is the man in question.

    Action was taken recently after the threatening behavior escalated and the letters passed beyond being a nuisance. It had gotten to the point where one graduate student and one faculty member were scared about entering the department out of concern for their safety. Korn, a former Messianic Jew who now self-identifies as Christian, allegedly sent various anti-evolution letters to faculty at the university.

    Cquote1.svg … every true Christian should be ready and willing to take up arms to kill the enemies of Christian society. But I believe it is far more effective to take up a pen to kill the enemies of Truth Cquote2.svg
    —Menachem “Michael” Korn
    Pictures of Korn have now been distributed to faculty with instructions to call police if Korn is spotted. Before going missing, Korn had refused to respond in detail to media requests for his side of the story, but he had sent emails to the Denver Post and has sent copies of those emails to other media sources, such as Wired. Korn later contacted Wired by telephone where he claimed to be unavailable since he was “traveling” and refused to discuss the letters in detail but spent most of the discussion focusing on claimed flaws in evolution.

    A university spokesperson has speculated that one reason police have been reluctant to formally name Korn is that the threats may have not crossed the line of what legally constitute death threats. For example, Korn said that “He [pastor Jerry Gibson] said that every true Christian should be ready and willing to take up arms to kill the enemies of Christian society. But I believe it is far more effective to take up a pen to kill the enemies of Truth.” Jeffry Mitton, a professor at the University, has filed for a restraining order against Korn.

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    , @Mevashir
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  415. A123 says:
    @Avery

    And as far as I know, Orthodox Jews in Israel are extremely hostile towards Christians there, who, btw, have been there for centuries, if not millennia.

    Christians living under Muslim Colonial occupation are in a tough spot.

    • Those that fail to collaborate are brutally punished by Islam.
    • The other choice is to collaborate with Violent Islam.

    Let me respectfully amend your statement:

    Orthodox Jews in Israel are extremely hostile towards Muslim collaborators who, btw, have been there for centuries, if not millennia.

    The answer is ending the Muslim Colonial Occupation. Jews & Christians will have little difficulty getting along once the horror of Islam no longer contaminates Palestine.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Avery
  416. @Mevashir

    So this goes to my question to Silvio. If Jews Like Elliot Cohen and many of the neocons are instinctively right-wing, anti-communist, conservative in moral values, and willing to confront Islam at Great risk to their lives in property, why aren’t right wing Christian Americans willing to support them and Ally with them?

    Aren’t they already? The anti-Israel position seems like a very small faction of the right wing to me. Most self-styled “conservatives” seem instinctively drawn to Zionism and neoconservatism, be it for Christian eschatological reasons, be it hostility to Islam, be it as a proxy for nationalism (their own being proscribed as ‘racist’).

  417. RobinG says:
    @Mevashir

    I defy easy categorization.

    Unfortunately not, Menachem. The class is nu***rs, and Franny beat me to it. But seeing as you really have been through the wringer, shouldn’t we be more kind? This world is a bitch. May you and your lovely wife find respite.

    Perhaps this foray into Unz is your crack at cyber-vangelism. Have you tempered since the days of, “…every true Christian should be ready and willing to take up arms…?” Seems like there should be a “No true Scotsman” joke in there somewhere. Alas.

  418. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran,

    This is very old news. I have moved Way beyond that. I abided by the restraining order. I no longer am an anti-evolution crusader. People can change. Interesting that you would condemn me for misconstrued threats while you apologize for Israel’s butchery.

    Do you lock people into their pasts? Let’s assume that the Palestinians make peace with Israel according to your terms. Would you accept that or would you forever mock and demean them for their historical animosity? Do you allow people to change?

    Silvio:

    Thank you for your very honest and interesting responses. I appreciate your willingness to share these thoughts. I’m sure we could have an enjoyable time over a cup of coffee somewhere.

    So I take it you’re Italian? If your surname is Silver then you are very likely Jewish. (Just deal with it.)

    A couple of interesting stories for you from my time living in Israel:

    I mainly lived in Jerusalem but I also spent time in the northern Galilee town of Safed which has an artist colony as well as a very large Ultra Orthodox population, about 50% of the town. The artist colony is built on homes that were taken from Arabs after the 1948 war. Safed had a very fierce battle between Jewish and Arab forces as I suppose Aaron can confirm.

    The artists live in lovely homes but the ultra Orthodox live in ugly cookie cutter high-rise buildings on the other side of town:
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOqt2SE6wTmy14lp6a3HF8nwLUyO_90tAlBw&usqp=CAU
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpSoeVDqw40N-FOmttEduANCQ795MFGgrqzQ&usqp=CAU

    The missionary from South Africa who led me to Christ chose this city particularly because of its large Orthodox population and its reputation as a center of Jewish Kabbalah and mysticism. The people there would boast that in all of its history it never had a church, a claim I later found out is not true. Because there’s a large crusader Fort built at the very top of the town and undoubtedly it had a Catholic chapel inside of it.

    One time when I was still Ultra orthodox I was with some friends at the famous ARIZAL mikveh spring and a group of American tourists approached me claiming they were lost and couldn’t find anyone to speak English. I helped them find their destination and when I returned to my friends they were angry with me and said “Why did you help those goyim. They are evil pigs and don’t deserve our help.” And something in my heart broke.

    Even though I was committed in that culture of ultra orthodoxy, I recalled my upbringing in California with Christian friends and people of many different ethnic groups and I realized I did not want to be part of such a prejudiced hateful community.

    A couple of years later I met the South African missionary Ian Campbell. He and his wife Lorna were very amazing people. They had been Bankers in South Africa and before their own conversion they were members of a very right wing white nationalist group. Ian is of Scottish descent a gigantic man well over 6 ft tall probably close to 300 lb. He used to walk around Safed wearing a kilt and carrying a bagpipe with his hair in a long ponytail like the iconic pictures of Jesussus. The Jews thought he was very strange but they were also intimidated by him and left him alone even though they hated his work as a missionary.

    Ian had a follower who was an Israeli martial arts expert who helped train the Safed Police Department in various self-defense skills. Because of that connection he had some protection from the city officials against the provocations of the ultra Orthodox who were constantly protesting and demonstrating trying to get him evicted from his apartment.

    Ian told me that before his conversion in South Africa on his weekends off from working as a respectable banker he was part of a motorcycle vigilante group that would ride around the area find black people drag them out into the veldt and assault them. I assumed he was telling the truth because he was a very honest person. He wasn’t proud of his past but he was trying to demonstrate that with Jesus a person can have a radical change of heart and behavior.

    Ian worked with Jews Arabs Americans and European visitors. He and his wife were amazingly loving to all people. Extremely spiritual. Their confidence in their beliefs enabled them to deal with people fairly without the insecurity that I think often leads to demonization and violence.

    My dream when I was finally baptized by Ian was that Jesus would bring Jews and Arabs closer together help to refine off the rough edges of Judaism and Islam and allow them to coexist happily. I had even a greater Vision that Jesus would enable Israel to be transformed into a Jewish Christian colony so to speak. Just like you have the Anglican Church the Roman Catholic Church the Russian Orthodox Church, I envisioned the Israeli Church finally joining in full fellowship with the family of mankind.

    This Vision has been very slow in developing but I think it is occurring. I found out later that the Naturay Karta anti Zionist rabbis are suspicious of this very thing, that Zionism will create a subterfuge for Christianity to be introduced into Judaism. They see Zionism is a trojan horse for a Christian takeover of the Jewish people. That is something they fear but something I would actually welcome. So it turns out that this group that are so ardently opposed Zionism also are quite hostile to Christianity and very favorable to Islam, which is the traditional view of ultra Orthodox Jewish law.

    You’ve seen my struggle to dialogue with A123 and Fran about the Talmudsl’s antipathy to Jesus and Christianity (which is faithfully reproduced in the Orthodox Jewish Community to this day). A123 is a denier of all the evidence I’ve presented to him while Fran dismisses it with a wave of her hand. This has really frustrated me but upon further reflection I’m actually glad that they seem so eager to create a Judeo-Christian alliance and to sweep all Jewish animosity to Jesus under the rug. I don’t know how prevalent their views are but they exactly reflect my hope when I was baptized that Israel would become a Christian-friendly Jewish society.

    As you know there are Christian tours to Israel all year round from every country on earth and every possible denomination. The Evangelicals have their agenda but probably there are more Catholic and Orthodox Christian tourists to Israel who go to the more traditional sites in Nazareth and Bethlehem. Israel generally speaking provides very favorable tourist amenities and services to these groups. When Ultra Orthodox kids spit on Catholic priests and desecrate churches, the Israeli authorities are quite alarmed because Christian tourism is vital to the Israeli economy. The fact that Israelis have such a high exposure to this year-round Odyssey of Christian pilgrims guarantees that over time their attitude towards Christianity will soften and become revised. And Arab hostility especially from Iran and its Shiite partners has pushed Israeli Jews into the Christian Camp very firmly.

    So I just want to thank A123 and Fran for their insistence that Talmudic denigration of Jesus and Christianity is not significant anymore. I hope your attitude proliferates throughout Israeli society and will help to transform that country into a proto-Christian Jewish enclave.

    My ultimate dream is that under the leadership of the Church Israelis and Palestinians could form a single binational state but perhaps that is excessively optimistic. But Jesus said that what is impossible for man is possible with God if our faith is great enough and I still cling to that vision of hope. Amen

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  419. Mevashir says:
    @silviosilver

    Silvio:

    Thank you for your very honest and interesting responses. I appreciate your willingness to share these thoughts. I’m sure we could have an enjoyable time over a cup of coffee somewhere.

    So I take it you’re Italian? If your surname is Silver then you are very likely Jewish. (Just deal with it.)

    A couple of interesting stories for you from my time living in Israel:

    I mainly lived in Jerusalem but I also spent time in the northern Galilee town of Safed which has an artist colony as well as a very large Ultra Orthodox population, about 50% of the town. The artist colony is built on homes that were taken from Arabs after the 1948 war. Safed had a very fierce battle between Jewish and Arab forces as I suppose Aaron can confirm.

    The artists live in lovely homes but the ultra Orthodox live in ugly cookie cutter high-rise buildings on the other side of town:
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOqt2SE6wTmy14lp6a3HF8nwLUyO_90tAlBw&usqp=CAU
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpSoeVDqw40N-FOmttEduANCQ795MFGgrqzQ&usqp=CAU

    The missionary from South Africa who led me to Christ chose this city particularly because of its large Orthodox population and its reputation as a center of Jewish Kabbalah and mysticism. The people there would boast that in all of its history it never had a church, a claim I later found out is not true. Because there’s a large crusader Fort built at the very top of the town and undoubtedly it had a Catholic chapel inside of it.

    One time when I was still Ultra orthodox I was with some friends at the famous ARIZAL mikveh spring and a group of American tourists approached me claiming they were lost and couldn’t find anyone to speak English. I helped them find their destination and when I returned to my friends they were angry with me and said “Why did you help those goyim. They are evil pigs and don’t deserve our help.” And something in my heart broke.

    Even though I was committed in that culture of ultra orthodoxy, I recalled my upbringing in California with Christian friends and people of many different ethnic groups and I realized I did not want to be part of such a prejudiced hateful community.

    A couple of years later I met the South African missionary Ian Campbell. He and his wife Lorna were very amazing people. They had been Bankers in South Africa and before their own conversion they were members of a very right wing white nationalist group. Ian is of Scottish descent a gigantic man well over 6 ft tall probably close to 300 lb. He used to walk around Safed wearing a kilt and carrying a bagpipe with his hair in a long ponytail like the iconic pictures of Jesussus. The Jews thought he was very strange but they were also intimidated by him and left him alone even though they hated his work as a missionary.

    Ian had a follower who was an Israeli martial arts expert who helped train the Safed Police Department in various self-defense skills. Because of that connection he had some protection from the city officials against the provocations of the ultra Orthodox who were constantly protesting and demonstrating trying to get him evicted from his apartment.

    Ian told me that before his conversion in South Africa on his weekends off from working as a respectable banker he was part of a motorcycle vigilante group that would ride around the area find black people drag them out into the veldt and assault them. I assumed he was telling the truth because he was a very honest person. He wasn’t proud of his past but he was trying to demonstrate that with Jesus a person can have a radical change of heart and behavior.

    Ian worked with Jews Arabs Americans and European visitors. He and his wife were amazingly loving to all people. Extremely spiritual. Their confidence in their beliefs enabled them to deal with people fairly without the insecurity that I think often leads to demonization and violence.

    My dream when I was finally baptized by Ian was that Jesus would bring Jews and Arabs closer together help to refine off the rough edges of Judaism and Islam and allow them to coexist happily. I had even a greater Vision that Jesus would enable Israel to be transformed into a Jewish Christian colony so to speak. Just like you have the Anglican Church the Roman Catholic Church the Russian Orthodox Church, I envisioned the Israeli Church finally joining in full fellowship with the family of mankind.

    This Vision has been very slow in developing but I think it is occurring. I found out later that the Naturay Karta anti Zionist rabbis are suspicious of this very thing, that Zionism will create a subterfuge for Christianity to be introduced into Judaism. They see Zionism is a trojan horse for a Christian takeover of the Jewish people. That is something they fear but something I would actually welcome. So it turns out that this group that are so ardently opposed Zionism also are quite hostile to Christianity and very favorable to Islam, which is the traditional view of ultra Orthodox Jewish law.

    You’ve seen my struggle to dialogue with A123 and Fran about the Talmudsl’s antipathy to Jesus and Christianity (which is faithfully reproduced in the Orthodox Jewish Community to this day). A123 is a denier of all the evidence I’ve presented to him while Fran dismisses it with a wave of her hand. This has really frustrated me but upon further reflection I’m actually glad that they seem so eager to create a Judeo-Christian alliance and to sweep all Jewish animosity to Jesus under the rug. I don’t know how prevalent their views are but they exactly reflect my hope when I was baptized that Israel would become a Christian-friendly Jewish society.

    As you know there are Christian tours to Israel all year round from every country on earth and every possible denomination. The Evangelicals have their agenda but probably there are more Catholic and Orthodox Christian tourists to Israel who go to the more traditional sites in Nazareth and Bethlehem. Israel generally speaking provides very favorable tourist amenities and services to these groups. When Ultra Orthodox kids spit on Catholic priests and desecrate churches, the Israeli authorities are quite alarmed because Christian tourism is vital to the Israeli economy. The fact that Israelis have such a high exposure to this year-round Odyssey of Christian pilgrims guarantees that over time their attitude towards Christianity will soften and become revised. And Arab hostility especially from Iran and its Shiite partners has pushed Israeli Jews into the Christian Camp very firmly.

    So I just want to thank A123 and Fran for their insistence that Talmudic denigration of Jesus and Christianity is not significant anymore. I hope your attitude proliferates throughout Israeli society and will help to transform that country into a proto-Christian Jewish enclave.

    My ultimate dream is that under the leadership of the Church Israelis and Palestinians could form a single binational state but perhaps that is excessively optimistic. But Jesus said that what is impossible for man is possible with God if our faith is great enough and I still cling to that vision of hope. Amen

  420. @RobinG

    Oh Robin,

    This is the best post ever.!! I knew it when I was reading his post that something was off. Menacham a Hitler pro Palestinian lover? He has started to e-mail me lengthy messages. I just blocked him. He looks like a stalker. I hope Ron realizes this.

    • Troll: Mevashir
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  421. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    This is very old news. I have moved Way beyond that. I abided by the restraining order. I no longer am an anti-evolution crusader. People can change. Interesting that you would condemn me for misconstrued threats while you apologize for Israel’s butchery.

    The question I pose to you is do you allow people to change or do you forever lock them into old paradigms? Let us say the Palestinians make peace with Israel according to your Draconian terms. Would you accept that or would you perpetually Mock and demean them for their historical animosity?

    Have you ever changed your views on anything? Or is your life purely static. You employ extremely violent rhetoric on this thread and yet you castigate me for using violent rhetoric in an evangelism campaign that I conducted 15 years ago. Please explain your double standard!

    Israel Shamir himself once published something that I wrote on his own website. Check this link about 2/3 of the way down for my condemnation of the so-called Noahide Movement in Orthodox Judaism:
    http://www.israelshamir.com/shamirReaders/english/Shamir--Peter-Edel-On-Zionism.php

  422. @RobinG

    There’s a cautionary note in that episode for all of us, which is to take heed when injecting bold new ideas into people’s minds, because some of them will be unable to resist the urge to take ill-advised action on their basis. You see this quite often with whites who become aware of the awful predicament their race is in – they go ‘full nutzi’ almost overnight. If there’s anything that could force me to tone down my criticisms of the absurd anti-white status quo, it’s the uncontrollable disorder its overturning risks ushering in.

  423. Taxi says:
    @A123

    Do you ever-ever take them ashkanazi balls out of your mouth? Please don’t tell me you were born congenitally stuffed this way.

    Lebanese know that terrorist israel blew up the port. They ain’t listening to some deranged motherfucker whoring out propaganda for the synagogue of satan.

    EVERYONE knows that Hezbollah’s got no hands in Beirut Port. But it sure has sharp eyes on Haifa port.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • LOL: A123
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  424. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I emailed you the very comment that I posted here. Fear not I would never stalk an arrogant money loving racist and prejudiced resident of Manhattan, Ground Zero of the 9/11 attack cover up. I will leave you where you are to slowly soak up the radioactive residue of that dastardly day.

    Your harsh and cruel judgmentalism really disappoints me. I do have emotional problems but who doesn’t? At least I’m honest enough to admit it. Did you ever see the movie A BEAUTIFUL MIND? This man was a dangerous schizophrenic who went on destructive frenzies of rage. Thank God I have never done that. But the point is he went on to become a Nobel Prize winner in Economics.

    I think the ideas and insights I’m sharing are quite important and valuable. I realize that I risk considerable humiliation from cruel judgmental people like you who shun new knowledge and like to revel in ignorant prejudice and demeaning stereotypes.

    I hope the other readers appreciate that only my faith in Jesus has allowed me to share these views because he tells us that we have to be willing to lay down our lives and certainly to accept personal humiliation for the sake of the Truth.

    I hope and pray that you can become a better person. You have a lot of passion and spunk, which I admire. When you can couple that to genuine knowledge and insight you will become a more valuable member of the human race.

    It’s funny to me that you’re on first name basis with Ron Unz, who regularly publishes shockingly anti-Jewish articles and screeds. Can you explain your respect for someone who’s written far worse things than I ever have?

    Is Gordon Duff at Veterans Today correct that this whole website is a gigantic controlled opposition front?

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  425. @Mevashir

    If your surname is Silver then you are very likely Jewish. (Just deal with it.)

    Not that I know of. I am of Serbian, Greek and Aromanian (“Vlach”) extraction, though I was “raised as” the first and can speak it. I chose the moniker “Silver” when I first entered into conversation with white nationalists precisely because I expected it to provoke suspicions of Jewishness. Prior to this, I had spent a few years digesting WNs’ books and essays, and following along their internet discussions (without participating). This caused me considerable anguish (even existential crisis), but I felt there was no more important a task than to familiarize myself with this issue. Choosing “Silver” was thus a reminder to myself that, despite conceding many of their arguments, I am not part of the WN movement and to help me guard against seeing myself as so.

    I have, however, wondered if there is any “Jewish blood” in my family. I have hesitated to take a test and find out for sure because I have made numerous savagely critical statements about Jews over the years (including holocaust rev), that even I would concede are ‘anti-semitic’ (a term I generally regard with contempt and seldom write without sneer quotes). Learning that I share that ancestry would obviously put me in a troubling bind. Or at least that is how I have felt up till more recently. Nowadays, I don’t think I’d be bothered, but neither am I that interested in finding out.

    Regarding your remarks on Hitler as a visionary leader, it’s a description he merits. I have read Hitler as Philosophe by Lawrence Birken (himself Jewish), which makes that argument explicitly, situating Hitler as an outgrowth of Enlightenment thought. I don’t recall the specific points he made, but I did feel that promoting such a view of Hitler can serve no greater good. Unless one is already fascist, there is very little that can be distilled and put to non-fascist use in anything Hitler or the fascists more broadly ever did or said. The only thing it would achieve is to rehabilitate fascism, which I think would be a terrible mistake.

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  426. @Mevashir

    Is Gordon Duff at Veterans Today correct that this whole website is a gigantic controlled opposition front?

    Well, rather like yourself, it defies easy categorization. Ron simultaneously denounces white nationalist views and promotes policies distinctly contrary to their aims (eg immigration boosting) yet publishes some of their most distinguished writers, and even makes his own original contributions to their corpus (re Jewish issues). (I’ll say no more now. I feel completely invisible to Ron, but the minute I express any criticism, he is Johnny on the spot with a stinging rebuke.)

  427. A123 says:
    @Taxi

    TA卍I THE TROLL,

    Let me Fix That For You:

    Do you ever-ever take them Nasrallah’s balls out of your mouth? Please don’t tell me you were born congenitally stuffed this way.

    Lebanese know that terrorist Nasrallah blew up the port. They ain’t listening to some deranged motherfucker whoring out propaganda for the Anti-Christ Muhammad and his master Lucifer/Allah/Satan.

    EVERYONE knows that Hezbollah has control over the Beirut Port (and its remains). But it sure has helpless eyes trained on the untouchable Haifa port.
    _____

    Does your conscience ever twinge with your 100% torrent of Satanic untruths?

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Taxi
  428. Kapyong says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “Empires rising and falling cause land ownership changes. This is the way of the world, since before the Norman conquest, ”

    So, if Arabs take back Palestine by force that will be OK with you ?
    You’ll accept it as the ‘way of the world’, right ?

    • Thanks: Mevashir
  429. Taxi says:
    @A123

    Your response is so unfuckingoriginal lol – typical talmudic kleptomania: steal this and steal that nonfuckingstop.

    Why don’t you take that jew cock out your happy ass and SHOW US ACTUAL EVIDENCE of Hezbollah’s presence in Beirut port? Show us the official port hanger’s rental agreement in Hezbollah’s name. You know, show us REAL EVIDENCE and not some turd that tel aviv shat straight into your mouth.

    You show no evidence of Hezbollah’s presence in the port, and more importantly, you provide NO MOTIVE WHATSOEVER! Tell us why you think patriotic Hezbollah would blow up Beirut Port. Go on, tell us why! If you do this, I promise in return I’ll tell you why Haifa Port will be the first target on the first day of the next war.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @A123
  430. RobinG says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    I’ve been reminded, Rashid Khalidi has a new book (Jan. 2020) that blends his own family’s account with his usual rigorous research.

    The Hundred Years’ War On Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917–2017
    https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781627798556

    He was interviewed on NPR this week. The transcript (w/o radio promos) probably faster, and I’ve barely skimmed. Of course, our Public Radio is the soft power limited hangout to hypnotize liberals. The fact that Palestinian advocates are getting air time may mean they’re being set up for a fall.
    https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1000247156

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  431. Art says:
    @RobinG

    “…every true Christian should be ready and willing to take up arms…?”

    And your problem with that is what?

  432. Druid55 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Of course a jew would do that!

  433. Druid55 says:
    @A123

    You’re no christian. J troll! You still continue with your stupid comments and lies despite everyone having your number. Arsehoole!!!

    • Agree: Alfred, Arthur MacBride
  434. Druid55 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “We are chosen, we will rule and everowill serve us while we sit like effendis”. Effer

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  435. Alfred says:
    @Anon

    I’d love to come over to your place and Apartheid the fuck out of you and your house and call it good business.

    You have just proven by your words that Blacks are incapable of running any organisation in a constructive way – least of all their very own household. 🙂

  436. Druid55 says:
    @Arthur MacBride

    YouTube has a 4 part series, al nakba, Excellent

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  437. Mevashir says:
    @Taxi

    You say that Lebanese people believe the port was destroyed in an Israeli attack. Are they aware of, do they agree with, the contention of Veterans Today that Israel used a nuclear device?
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2021/05/13/breaking-israel-nukes-beirut/
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08/31/after-nukes-against-beirut-port-israeli-phosphorus-bombs-fell-on-lebanon-borders/
    VT Nuclear Education: The Beirut Coverup and Jewish Lightning (updated)
    Is Beirut the first major city to be nuked? Would you believe not even close?

  438. Mevashir says:
    @silviosilver

    Choosing “Silver” was thus a reminder to myself that, despite conceding many of their arguments, I am not part of the WN movement and to help me guard against seeing myself as so.

    You would seem to be a most fascinating and complex individual. Thank you for sharing these things. I would not hesitate to discover your possible Jewish ancestry despite your criticism of Jewish people. After all Unz has supported Holocaust revisionism or even denialism. So does Gordon Duff, who has Jewish ancestry as well.

    I have dabbled in Holocaust revisionism and to this day I don’t know what the truth is about what happened in that era. I have been severely criticized by friends and relatives for doing this. I even was legally disinherited by my father.

    But fear not Silvio. From my 20 years living in Israel I can assure you that the infighting among Jewish groups there would make your hair stand and makes non-Jewish anti-Semites look tame in comparison. Without some kind of external enemy to demonize, I believe that Israel would degenerate into all out civil war between the different Jewish groups.

    You should Google Barry Chamish who was a Canadian Jewish immigrant to Israel who wrote about all sorts of Zionist atrocities against different Jewish groups in Israel. He is the one who popularized the claim that Israel’s nuclear weapons Godfather Shimon Perez ordered Rabin assassinated. He also has written about the radiation experiments conducted by the Zionists on Yemeni Jews in exchange for American nuclear technology. He also claims that Perez had Israeli singing Diva Ofra Haza murdered because of her documentary Exposé of their crimes against her community at the end of her life.

    When I attended Yeshiva back in the 1980s, I recall a big dispute one year on Israel Independence day. (Called Yom Ha’atzma’ut in Hebrew.) The Yeshiva was requested to fly the Israeli flag. But it was under the control of an anti-Zionist Orthodox group and refused to fly the flag. The Israeli government responded that if they would not fly the flag then the government would stop its generous payments that were directed to this Yeshiva under some bogus pre-text of Zionist education. So the head of the Yeshiva called an assembly of all the students and explained why he reluctantly would have to fly the flag in order to keep the Yeshiva running but he doesn’t agree with it and condemns Zionism. This despite the fact that the Yeshiva received lavish payments and other forms of subsidy and support from the government.

    One year Rabbi Shach, who was then head of the Lithuanian Orthodox community and considered the Godfather of that movement in Israel, denounced secular kibbutzniks as goyim who imperil all of Israel because they eat pork and don’t observe any of the Jewish religious laws. (So much for the contention of Fran that Talmudic laws are irrelevant in Israel!) His remarks were widely reported in Israeli media in generated extreme anger and hostility from secular Israelis against the ultra-Orthodox.

    Once on a Hasidic pilgrimage to Ukraine to the grave of Rabbi Nachman of Breslov, I was riding in a taxi with three other Jews. Two of them were anti-Zionist and one of them was an Israeli Sephardic Zionist. The anti-Zionists started running down the Israeli government in front of the Ukrainian taxi driver which pissed off the Sephardic person. He told the driver to stop and pull the car over to the side of the road. Then he pulled a large knife out of his pocket and brandishing it in the face of the two anti-Zionists said if they didn’t stop the besmirching Israel he would kill them and dump their bodies on the side of the road. Peace was restored!

    Prior to World War II the infighting between secular and religious Jews, Zionists and non-Zionists, Communists Socialists and Capitalists, was vicious. If it is true that Roosevelt Churchill and Stalin all had Jewish ancestry, and very possibly Hitler too although that is controversial, then we can see that World War II was a gigantic global bloodbath between warring Jewish factions.

    All this to say: don’t let your criticism of Israel and Jewish elites stop you from finding out if you have Jewish ancestry. It should be no factor in your curiosity.

    The Talmud itself says that Jews are the most dangerous people in the world and without the yoke of Torah they would destroy it.

    +++++++++++++++

    Regarding your Serbian ancestry, does that mean you were raised in the Serbian Orthodox Church? I’ve had a lot of unusual experiences with Orthodox icons. Once on our Hasidic trip to Ukraine I returned to Israel via Kiev and stayed overnight with a friend who had a business meeting there. We were in a large old Soviet hotel in Kiev and in the middle of the night I couldn’t sleep and wandered around the hotel and came across an office with an enormous Russian Orthodox icon of Jesus on the wall. I had never seen an icon before and it really shook me up. I found it powerful and penetrating and it deeply disturbed me to encounter this two days after praying at the grave of our Hasidic rebbe.

    You might not know that one of the purposes of the Hasidic movement in Europe starting in the 17th century was to stop the conversion of Jews to Catholicism which was rumored to be a growing underground movement. The Hasidic rebbe was created as a Jewish alternative to Jesus, a charismatic miracle working figure the Jews could congregate around and find inspiration from without having to abandon Jewish ritual laws and cultural practices.

    There is a Jewish convert to Catholicism in Australia named Brother Gilbert, who is a Catholic monk and an ordained priest as well, who’s written extensively about the Catholic inroads into European Jewry. He claims that two of the greatest Hasidic movements, Chabad and Breslov, have many of their descendants who converted to Catholicism. He even claims that rabbi Nachman of Breslov, probably the most famous Hassidic leader in Israel today, was a secret follower of Christ. If you email me I can send you some of his fascinating articles and genealogical studies.

    On New Year’s 2020 I went to visit a local Orthodox Christian Church in Colorado where I live. They had an icon stained glass window and the light was coming through the window in such a way that it looked like a sword was coming out of the eyes of Jesus and pointed towards me. I felt extremely uncomfortable and had a very ominous foreboding. And sure enough 4 days later my wife passed away. At that time I was struggling with certain sin issues in my life and I feel that Jesus was warning me that I was about to pay a very heavy price for my failure to follow him properly. And thus it transpired and I am still grieving my wife Elisheva’s death 18 months later.

    I don’t know if you ever saw the popular American movie called THE EQUALIZER, starring Denzel Washington as a retired Special forces soldier who has to take on the Russian mafia operating out of Boston. It’s a pretty ridiculous movie where Denzel behaves like an indestructible Superman wiping out literally dozens of Russian mafia assassins and thugs. It’s a pretty exciting movie but one aspect of it deeply disturbed me. The movie goes out of its way to associate the Russian mafia criminals with the Russian Orthodox church. There scenes in the movie where the camera will zoom in on one of the mafia people and over his shoulder you will see an icon of the Virgin Mary holding the Infant Jesus or something like that. This happens a couple of times in the movie and I felt that the director was trying to signal that the whole Russian Orthodox Church is suspect as a nest of Mafia criminals. I think it was very wrong.

    Imagine a movie about Jewish gangsters that constantly showed Torah Scrolls and other Jewish religious artifacts next to them in their offices. I’m sure ADL and other groups would make an outcry. But nobody as far as I know said a word about THE EQUALIZER equating Russian mafia criminals with the Russian Orthodox church. Check out this clip:

    THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DIALOGUE WITH YOU! MAY GOD BLESS YOU RICHLY!! AMEN!!!

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @silviosilver
  439. Mevashir says:
    @Mevashir

    I don’t know if you ever saw this movie that came out about 20 years ago. Called MAX about Hitler’s life as a young struggling artist in Vienna. The movie depicts his friendship with a rich Jewish art Patron (Max) who tries to direct him into art and out of politics.

    Most people considered the movie a harsh depiction of Hitler as a unstable dangerous personality. But I actually found his character a lot more sympathetic than his Jewish art friend who is a rich but morally degenerate person.

    In one scene he invites Hitler to his social club where they have lunch with two prostitutes. Hitler keeps trying to talk about politics philosophy and culture but nobody wants to listen. When he excuses himself to use the restroom, one prostitute says to Max, “Wherever did you find him? He’s the most disgusting person we’ve ever met!”

    Later I was reflecting on this and thought that maybe it’s a backhanded compliment for a prostitute to call someone disgusting. If you follow my thought.

    That’s how I take the criticism of Fran and Robin at any rate! 😆

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  440. Mouse says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I didn’t follow Mevashir’s discussions with others. He is impolite and seems to be rambling about religion. However, Fran’s under-the-belt hit here looks “typical American-Jewish”.

    A while back, I was sort of arguing with an American Jew online. I made mistakes, but I was sure that it must have been completely obvious that I was friendly. And out of the blue I got a response like Fran’s above.

    As mentioned above, I have noticed such reaction to negative criticism again and again. Any port in a storm!

    The net result is that I am generally pro-Jewish, but don’t wish to talk with Jews! It is just too much trouble.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  441. A123 says:
    @Taxi

    TA卍I THE TROLL,

    I never said Hezbollah intentionally blew up the Beirut Port. The Nasrallah-shima blast was a result of negligence,incompetence,and malfeasance.

    I issued this challenge to you before. And, you refused to provide any credible rebuttal.

    Let me repeat the *objective facts*. Now it is your your to *provide evidence*.

    https://www.unz.com/ldinh/battered-but-unbroken-lebanon/#comment-4294205
    ______

    Nasrallah had Colonel Josef Skaf assassinated to keep the Ammonium Nitrate in his Munitions Depot #12. (1)

    Colonel Joseph Skaf, Chief of the drug control division at the Lebanese Customs, wrote at the time: “We inform you that this division received information about the presence of the Rhosus ship at the Port of Beirut. It is loaded with ammonium nitrate, which is used in explosives, is highly dangerous and constitutes a threat to public safety.”

    He asked the authorities to move the ship away from the port’s docks and to place it under supervision, according to the document.

    Skaf died in 2017 … it was deliberate due to finding bruises on the deceased’s head.

    Why don’t YOU present evidence showing that it is NOT a Iranian al’Hezbollah Munitions Depot?

    (Sound of crickets)

    I knew you couldn’t.

    Your blatant Shia hypocrisy and total lack of evidence is why Christians, such as myself, do not believe your Jihadi lies.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/08/07/Colonel-who-died-suspiciously-had-asked-for-removing-ammonium-nitrate-Lebanese-media

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Taxi
  442. AaronB says:
    @silviosilver

    Ok, but I think you underestimate the role of morality.

    A huge part of the reason the Arab/Muslim side is losing, and their societies are so dysfunctional, is because they are too harsh and aggressive – and this is very well reflected in the harshness and aggression of the anti-Zionist writers here.

    If you read people like AnonStarter, Colin Wright, Taxi, Iris, Lin Dinh, it’s very hard to imagine them creating a flourishing society based on benevolent cooperation.

    There is a sweet spot for aggression, as there is for everything.

    I don’t despise support from people like you, even though I think you don’t understand the need for hardness to be leavened with softness. But you don’t seem like an inherently malicious person at all. Most of the anti-Zionist commenters just seem like spiteful and malicious people by nature, and I would spurn the support of people like that even if they switched sides (people like that on your side is no benefit). But I don’t put you in that category.

  443. Mevashir says:
    @Mouse

    If you don’t enjoy talking to them why would you be supportive of them? Why should you support people who are rude and abusive? At the very least let them fight their own battles. You owe them absolutely nothing although they try to claim that the whole world owes them everything.

    The Apostle Paul writes in one of his letters that Jews are hostile to all mankind. In another place he writes that for those Jews who opposed his outreach to Gentiles he wished when they did their circumcision they would go all the way and cut off the entire organ!

    Speaking of circumcision this is an idea I had many years ago that connects Jews and Muslims. Some doctors claim that even an 8-day old baby feels terrible pain. I wonder if that causes a deep subconscious kind of trauma. Then I started to wonder about the extremely high fertility rates for Orthodox Jews and religious Muslims. Both of them practice circumcision. And I wondered if having intercourse with a woman represents a place of safety for their wounded male sex organ. I thought that perhaps circumcision is a kind of psychological device that drives a man to crave the safety of a female’s body and therefore results in extremely high birth rates.

    Many African tribes also practice a form of circumcision and they are noted as well for having high fertility rates. A recent article in the New York Times or Washington Post that discusses falling fertility rates around the world states that sub-Saharan Africa is the only exception where fertility rates remain extremely high.

    Speaking of Islam, I direct this comment to our hasbarist A123:

    I think you are on thin ice when you denounce Muhammad for being an antichrist figure, while you lavish unrestrained favor upon Jews. In my view Muhammad is exactly the kind of Messianic figure that the Jews who rejected Christ preferred. They wanted a warrior conquering sort of figure. And this is exactly what Muhammad was. He was a warrior a general a prophet a poet a judge a leader and a king who drove out idolatry from the Arabian peninsula, united all the different tribes and formed a new monotheistic faith. His achievements by those measures are remarkable.

    Some historians claim that the religion of Arabia at that time was actually a form of Hinduism which is polytheistic. And Muhammad was able to remove this from his people. It is interesting to note that Israel is closely allied with Hindu India with all of its polytheistic idolatry. Others have pointed that out on this thread but it makes it more interesting to realize that Muhammad directly attacked and replaced a form of Hinduism from his nation.

    Regarding Muhammad’s sexual behavior, it’s important to note that the Jewish rabbis teach that Isaac married Rebecca when she was 3 years old and consummated the marriage when she was 12. King David took Bathsheva when she was nine. Even if these stories are legendary and false, they reflect the rabbinical view that it is perfectly appropriate to marry young women. So Muhammad’s marriage to Ayisha at the age of 12 cannot be condemned. Muhammad also had far fewer wives than either David or Solomon. Indeed two of his wives were not Muslim at all: one was Christian and one was Jewish.

    I think judging from the standpoint of secular history, Muhammad was a very remarkable figure and should not be demeaned the way you are doing. The fact is every accusation you make against him applies equally to Judaism. In my view Judaism and Islam are flip sides of what I call the same Antichrist coin. I believe Islam came into the world as a spiritual consequence of the Jews rejecting Christ in favor of a conquering Warrior Davidic type king.

    Both Judaism and Islam in my view have virtues and deficiencies. The virtues of Judaism are that it preserves the Oracles of God as the Apostle Paul writes. They faithfully transmitted the Old Testament Scriptures. The deficiency of Islam is denying this and distorting the Revelation through the Qur’an. The deficiency of Judaism is its rejection of Jesus and it’s refusal to share its spiritual light with the rest of the world. And the virtue of Islam is its opposition to idolatry, it’s veneration of Jesus, and it’s determination to missionize the entire world.

    Every word of condemnation you speak against Islam simply focuses God’s attention on the deficiencies and liabilities in Judaism. I’m sure that is not something you desire and so you ought to be more prudent. My former Hassidic Rabbi Nachman of Breslov taught that when you’re uncertain about the virtues of someone if you praise them then God will scrutinize them and bring them under judgment. So you actually would be far more effective in combating Islam by praising it’s many virtues, which are not hard to identify.

    SALAAM 🤠

  444. Mevashir says:
    @A123

    From VT:

    [MORE]

    Unz will help you understand how controlled opposition works.

    For Iran, the Beirut nuclear attack is the biggest single indication of utter injustice of all.

    Even Kevin shies away from it.

    It actually gets worse. After my story went viral…in Lebanon…there were demonstrations against the government and media for the coverup.

    They went on for weeks.

    Many have video of not only the missiles but the planes that day as well and the extremity of the blast.

    But the media, even in Lebanon, portrayed the demonstrations as “food riots.”

    Saudi cash, by the millions, went into Lebanon to silence any mention of what actually happened and how bad it was.

    A nuclear attack on Beirut in broad daylight.

    The most “classic” of all….CNN took the videos…cut out the frames with the missiles…and said we added them.

    Childish.

    Next…ask Unz how to make fertilizer explode like in “Beirut.” This is a test you might be able to do yourself:
    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08/14/vt-science-debunking-explosive-properties-of-ammonium-nitrate/

    Unz supports the magic exploding fertilizer hoax…which is a RED LINE for Israel.

    Anyone doing that…is on the payroll.

    Everyone doing that is on the payroll. Go to youtube…many video tests. Then look at Wikipedia…which has a huge article on fertilizer explosions that were all actually TNT or ANFO.

    If you have the background….do the chemistry (high school level) and see how impossible it is.

    That one breaks them all….proves them all….like OJ and the glove.

    • Thanks: Alfred
  445. Mevashir says:
    @Mevashir

    I learned far more about Jews and Hollywood than about Hitler in this movie MAX. It is truly incredible that Hollywood would present Max as an heroic figure when in fact he was a morally bankrupt empty hedonistic philandering alcoholic drug using degenerate. Yet Hollywood invites us to admire this person rather than the idealistic and visionary character of the young Hitler.

    Whatever you think of Hitler, it’s indisputable that Hollywood has helped to degrade and corrupt American culture and has opened the way for all sorts of deranged groups like QAnon, who are seeking to restore some kind of moral focus to our sick sinking society. While the Jewish media moguls in Hollywood laugh all the way to the bank and could care less about the destruction of our society.

    I like to say they are like the fools in the elite berths of the Titanic who think they can party away while the Riff raft in the lower decks are drowned by the sea water pouring in. Those idiots don’t realize that they too are doomed and the entire ship is going to go down.

    Such are the Jewish elites who are partying selfishly while the rest of our society suffers and sinks into doom. This is exactly how the Jews behaved in Weimar Germany and we know how history caught up with them.

    I pray such a convulsion will not happen here but I am no longer optimistic. Americans are heavily armed and much more assertive and aggressive than Germans were. All they lack is one truly visionary intelligent and charismatic leader.

  446. Taxi says:
    @A123

    Are you seriously giving me saudi arabia’s Al-Arabiya as proof? LOL! Try again, you little shit plunger.

    It works like this, dickhead: you accuse someone of something, you give EVIDENCE of this accusation. The onus is on you, NOT on the other party lol! Now answer my question: what do you think is Hezbollah’s motive? FUCKING CRICKETS RIGHT HERE, APPRENTLY!

    Hezbollah loves Jesus. And Jesus loves Hezbollah. And ain’t that the truth.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @A123
  447. Mouse says:
    @Mevashir

    I support Israel because Israel is a source of civilization (and hopefully in the future, culture) for the rest of the world, whereas an Arab occupation of that little part of the desert would bring nothing new. I think of it this way: Israel has something positive to add to the world, whereas a non-Israeli Palestine would be just a piece of desert. Ideally, of course, the Arab neighbors of Israel would learn to live in peace with it — I loved Herzl’s novel _Old New Land_ –, but as long as it is Israel vs its neighbors, I am with Israel (for what it is worth!).

    I largely support the Jews because of Jewish contributions to world history. Their role has been largely positive in culture (and, of course, in science).

    I largely don’t wish to talk with American Jews because talking with them is tiresome and somewhat dangerous. They have a weird mix of universal-love, paranoia, aggressiveness — and intelligence! In the unpleasant episode I mentioned above, I was not wholly in the right, but this person didn’t even give me a chance to respond! And then I was grateful to the person for not doxxing me, and then I concluded that it is not worthwhile to argue with our progressive masters of the day. (And where you cannot argue, you cannot talk.)

    • Replies: @Mouse
  448. @Druid55

    Thanks Druid55.

    For any others interested, here’s pt 1 —

    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Arthur MacBride
  449. Mevashir says:

    I think you understand the Jewish mentality perfectly and I can assure you there is no reason for you to support them or Lobby for them or help them in any way. They can row their own boat; in fact they pilot a luxury ocean liner that crowds all the other boats right out of the harbor.

    Your reasons for supporting them seem entirely sentimental. I don’t think Jews have contributed very much to world history at all. Maximum you could say that the Jewish Bankers financed all sorts of creative projects that Gentile scientists developed. I’m pretty sure that Leonardo da Vinci is much more creative than virtually any Jew who ever lived.

    I would invite you to reassess your views. I am Jewish and I grew up in a Jewish family and I know how vicious the Jewish Community can be. At least be consistent and encourage these American Jews that you admit you don’t like to move to Israel. It’s a win-win for all of us.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mouse
  450. Mevashir says:
    @Taxi

    I think our zayin*-envying hasbarist really blew it with his Nasrallah-shima crack. That’s the kind of mistake his Mossad handlers won’t easily tolerate. He should start looking over his shoulder and make sure he’s not wiping his ass with cyanide-laced toilet paper. (Also known as Zyklon-B Bum)

    SALAAM 🤠

    *Zayin is Hebrew for weapon or male sex organ. The Hebrew word for Zionist is actually pronounced Tziyoni. Israelis laugh at their goy cheerleaders who wax eloquent about Zionism, which really means Ideology of Weapons/Jewish Cocks/Dickheads 😆

  451. Can you explain this? I am not aware of this at all. Who organizes all the anti Israel demonstrations on college campuses if not Palestinian and Muslim groups? How do they align with globalists?

    I’m not trying to be rude, but what’s to explain? I have seen Palestinians and Muslims allied with groups such as JVP and other Jewish groups countless times. As long as the issues revolve around so-called racism, white supremacy, immigration, and other issues pushed by Jews, the two groups are in alliance. Never have I seen a Palestinian support the rights of whites in the West to our own homelands, or to acknowledge that we are under seige by the same groups, which they ally with when the come to the West.

    Globalism also involves the free movement of goods and people, which is highly controlled and benefits only a very few people. A restaurateur is not a globalist, even if he is an extremely minor player.

    My point is that I agree that Palestinians and Muslims have been wronged, but it is hard to go out on a limb to support them when they so often ally with Jews to destroy the West, and they do..

  452. A123 says:
    @Taxi

    TA卍I THE TROLL,

    So you are totally without evidence and are trying to cover with a tirade. Everyone here sees that you are desperate and incoherently flailing.

    I accept your surrender.

    If you do not want to be exposed to *objectives facts* or *provide evidence* it is time for you to leave the site.

    Goodbye. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Taxi
  453. @Mevashir

    You wrote:

    ‘I thought that perhaps circumcision is a kind of psychological device that drives a man to crave the safety of a female’s body and therefore results in extremely high birth rates’.

    Seeing as Tel Aviv is the LGBTQ capital of the world, the evidence on the ground strongly suggests that circumcision is more likely to ‘drive Jewish men to crave sodomising other men’.

    The world’s leading paediatricians are unanimous: ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’.

    In Australia (where I am), something of the order of 95% of infant boys are NOT genitally mutilated.

    The parents of the remaining 5% that still practise these pagan rituals, should be locked up.

  454. @AaronB

    ‘You’re misrepresenting what happened.

    The UN offered it’s Partition Plan. The Jews gladly accepted. The Arabs flatly refused.

    The Arabs then began attacking Jewish towns and convoys, etc, and the surrounding Arab states declared their intent to invade and destroy the nascent Jewish state, making good on their promise shortly after…’

    My. If you were a car, and lies were speed, you just went from statement to complete fabrication in three paragraphs.

    The UN adopted the Partition Plan in 29 November 1947. The Jews pretended to accept it.

    We have the following Jewish attacks on Palestinians over the next month

    [MORE]

    al-Tira December 12, 1947 Jewish militants 13 Arabs killed, 10 wounded[44][45]
    N/A December 12, 1947 Jewish militants (Irgun) 20 killed, 5 wounded by barrel bomb at Damascus Gate.[46]
    N/A December 13, 1947 Jewish militants (Irgun) 16 Arabs killed; 67 Arabs wounded from bombings in Jerusalem and Jaffa; Irgun also burns down 100 Arab homes in Jaffa[1]
    N/A December 16, 1947 Jewish militants (Irgun) 10 killed by bomb at Noga Cinema in Jaffa.[47]
    al-Khisas massacre December 18, 1947 Jewish militants (Haganah) 10 Arabs killed[1]
    N/A December 24, 1947 Arab snipers, Jewish militants 4 Jews killed in Haifa by snipers, 4 Arabs killed in reprisals[1]
    N/A December 26, 1947 Arab militants 7 Jews killed while driving in convoy to Jerusalem[1]
    N/A December 28, 1947 Arab Snipers, Jewish militants 5 Jews killed in Bab el Wad by snipers, 5 Arabs killed in reprisals[1]
    N/A December 29, 1947 Arab militants, Jewish militants (Irgun) 4 Jews killed in Tel Aviv from mortar and sniper fire, 13 Arabs killed in Jerusalem in Irgun bombing[1][48]
    Bomb thrown on Damascus Gate Café in Jerusalem December 29, 1947 Jewish militants (Irgun) 11 Arabs, 2 Britons killed[1][49] Uri Milstein reported 15 casualties from the bombing in the Palestine Post.[50]

    ‘All ve vanted was peace!’ Ask Fran or Aaron.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Fran Taubman
  455. @Druid55

    “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel … Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat…”

    ADL Denounces Ovadia Yosef Remarks As Hateful and Divisive

  456. @Mevashir

    So Muhammad’s marriage to Ayisha at the age of 12 cannot be condemned.

    It was never about lust anyway. It was about power. Which her father could augment.

  457. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    I dunno, according to Wiki (and all this before the invasion of Arab armies) –

    “….The first casualties after the adoption of Resolution 181(II) by the General Assembly were passengers on a Jewish bus driving on the Coastal Plain near Kfar Sirkin on 30 November. An eight-man gang from Jaffa ambushed the bus killing five and wounding others. Half an hour later they ambushed a second bus, southbound from Hadera, killing two more. Arab snipers attacked Jewish buses in Jerusalem and Haifa.[19]…”

    And according to the Benny Morris –

    “….According to Benny Morris, much of the fighting in the first months of the war took place in and on the edges of the main towns, and was initiated by the Arabs. It included Arab snipers firing at Jewish houses, pedestrians, and traffic, as well as planting bombs and mines along urban and rural paths and roads.[24]…”

    According to the Arab League general Safwat:

    “…..Despite the fact that skirmishes and battles have begun, the Jews at this stage are still trying to contain the fighting to as narrow a sphere as possible in the hope that partition will be implemented and a Jewish government formed; they hope that if the fighting remains limited, the Arabs will acquiesce in the fait accompli. This can be seen from the fact that the Jews have not so far attacked Arab villages unless the inhabitants of those villages attacked them or provoked them first.[31]”

    From the Arabs mouth, huh?

    “……Having recruited a few thousand volunteers, al-Husayni organized the blockade of the 100,000 Jewish residents of Jerusalem.[29] To counter this, the Yishuv authorities tried to supply the city with convoys of up to 100 armoured vehicles, but the operation became more and more impractical as the number of casualties in the relief convoys surged. By March, Al-Hussayni’s tactic had paid off. Almost all of Haganah’s armoured vehicles had been destroyed, the blockade was in full operation, and hundreds of Haganah members who had tried to bring supplies into the city were killed.[30] The situation for those who dwelt in the Jewish settlements in the highly isolated Negev and North of Galilee was even more critical….”

  458. Taxi says:
    @A123

    Dear A123,

    Objective facts from a janitor for Apartheid jews? Yeah sure LOL!

    Look at you scramming like a rat before the eyes of the nice world.

    Palestine lives! Now put that in yer jew pipe and smoke it before your imminent smoke out.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  459. @Arthur MacBride

    Anybody watching that vdo will not be in any doubt as to why the London govt/England is known as Perfidious Albion.

    And now, with its history of wickedness, it is a wreck …

    Can there be a Moral there somewhere ?

    Truth does have that habit of coming out, sooner or later.

  460. Mouse says:
    @Mouse

    To be honest, I presented my opinions a bit too forcefully. (I was reminded of some unpleasant interaction, and it pushed me to be too hard.)

    Also I don’t “get along” with any group of people, including my own racial group, of course. So, my not getting along with the Jews is not “news-worthy”.

    What remains, though, is that I wish success for the Israeli project (a strong, stable, prosperous nation), and I’d like the diaspora Jews to become less “progressive”.

    I would like the Islamic nations to prosper too. (Prosperous, peaceful, religious, Muslim countries can counterbalance Western race-to-the-future.)

    • Replies: @Art
  461. @Colin Wright

    ‘All ve vanted was peace!’ Ask Fran or Aaron.

    No what the Jews wanted was a sovereign Jewish state to become the home the Jews living in Muslim lands together with the stateless Jews from Europe after the War. Survival was what the Jews were after.
    The Jews wanted a sovereign state to make their own laws to protect themselves. They were a tad insecure.

    Problem with you Colin is you write like a cartoon character, with cartoon tropes equivalent to “See Spot Run”. Nothing penetrates your warn out tropes.

    My parents were clued to the radio during the UN vote, scared out of their wits for the safety of family members over there. There was no hubris, no suprematism, no arrogance. It was a a war of survival. That is the way the real Jews viewed it. Not your rambling cartoon characters of the super Jew walking in with capes on to vanquish the local Arabs, and Colonize!!! It is a lie. I am a Jew who’s family lived through 1948, who’s father served in Europe. The Jews were literally hoping to live another day in Palestine.

    The Arabs did not just threaten Israel, a portion of the Islamist (not all) wanted to drive the Jews into the sea. There were no Palestinians back then. The Islamist Arabs were fighting for Arabia. They had no intention of setting up a separate Palestine or recognizing Palestinians. This was always an Arab Muslim vs. Jewish fight. It is a complex story.

    You are a cartoon character Colin with tropes you learned from hapless idiots. My favorite is:

    Palestine is for the Palestinians.

    Not only are the Jews laughing, true Muslim and Islamist are laughing at you. You have an audience of 3 on this website. The clueless and the conspirators. Go talk to Iris about the holograms of airplanes hitting the world trade towers. That is really where are. Holograms.

  462. Mouse says:
    @Mevashir

    “I don’t think Jews have contributed very much to world history at all.”

    You know, if you read any anti-Semitic literature, you’d learn that everything in history revolves around the Jews!

    Anyway, the Jews have been a highly fateful people. One could argue that the cultural effects of this are largely negative (though I strongly disagree), and yet, I am reminded of what Mr Marlow tells about Commander Kurtz in Conrad’s _Heart of Darkness_: “He had something to say. He said it.”.

    When aliens write the history of Earth, Jews would figure prominently. Isn’t that something remarkable for such a tiny fraction of the world’s population? Wouldn’t you like to give them a nation of their own to see what else they’d come up with?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Mevashir
  463. @AaronB

    ‘I dunno, according to Wiki (and all this before the invasion of Arab armies) –

    “….The first casualties after the adoption of Resolution 181(II) by the General Assembly were passengers on a Jewish bus driving on the Coastal Plain near Kfar Sirkin on 30 November. An eight-man gang from Jaffa ambushed the bus killing five and wounding others. Half an hour later they ambushed a second bus, southbound from Hadera, killing two more. Arab snipers attacked Jewish buses in Jerusalem and Haifa.[19]…”

    ‘And according to the Benny Morris…’

    Key words there: ‘Wikipedia’ and ‘Benny Morris.’

    You might as well cite Volkischer Beobachter and Der Sturmer and go on to discuss the role of Jews in Weimar Germany.

    Wikipedia is of course hopelessly subverted by Zionists; it’s absurd.

    As to Benny Morris, he’s an avowed Zionist, and while he does have a greater taste for the truth than — say — you, he’s not above ‘restructuring’ things so as to make the Jews appear the aggrieved party. So Palestinians kill five Jews on January 8th — and the Jews ‘retaliate’ and kill seven Palestinians on January 6th.

    Really, he does that. And that’s an improvement over most. Try citing some reliable sources if you want to debate this in good faith.

    …except you won’t. If you confined yourself to reliable sources, you wouldn’t have an argument.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @AnonStarter
  464. @Fran Taubman

    ‘No what the Jews wanted was a sovereign Jewish state to become the home the Jews living in Muslim lands together with the stateless Jews from Europe after the War. Survival was what the Jews were after.
    The Jews wanted a sovereign state to make their own laws to protect themselves. They were a tad insecure…’

    You beat Aaron’s record — went from zero to lying in only two paragraphs.

    Of course the Jews weren’t ‘stateless.’ All the states they had come from were still there.

    Otherwise, far from having nowhere to go, concerned well-wishers in the American and British government came up with a plan to resettle a million displaced persons; half in the US and half in the various states of the British Commonwealth.

    The Zionists quashed that one pronto. ‘Oh no. The Jews need to have no place to go but Palestine…else they would of course not go.’ And indeed: how many Jews have ever emigrated from the United States to the Zionist entity? They may be Jewish, but they’re not crazy.

    Even then, the Zionists had to manipulate the process. When the U.N. sent representatives to the camps to find out where the Jews would actually like to go, the Zionists made sure they only talked to Zionists.

    …I wonder how many Jews ever actually wanted to go to Palestine? Two hundred thousand? What do you think?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  465. Mevashir says:
    @Taxi


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Source_(novel)

    The swastika is an ancient Sanskrit symbol for the spinning sun. In James Michener’s book THE SOURCE, on the history of the Holy Land, he reports that synagogues have been excavated from 1500 years ago that have swastika symbols decorated on them.

    In the Fatima vision of the Virgin Mary in 1917, warning about the great danger to emerge from Russian [assumed to be Communism], tens of thousands of people in Portugal saw the sun spinning in the sky. This suggests that the symbol adopted by the Nazis was a fulfillment of this vision and a sign that they were meant to be the Champions to Vanquish the Bolshevik threat:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun

    All this to say that our zayin-envying hasbarist doesn’t deserve the dignity of a swastika in his name. Rather he deserves some Zyklon-B right around his anal gas chamber.

  466. AaronB says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Palestine is for the Palestinians

    Actually, Talha has said that as a Pakistani Muslim, he is as entitled to Palestine as any local Muslim, because the entire Muslim Ummah participated in the original conquest of Palestine, and to it’s defense. So Palestine is a collective possession of the Ummah, by right of conquest.

    As insincere, ingratiating, and fake-pious as Talha is, he has the great virtue of being naively non-Western, in that he operates from a non-Western perspective that does not even realize it might be controversial in Western terms.

    Talha has also admitted that the Muslim objection is to Jewish independence in Palestine, and not to the presence of Jews per se, and he views a satisfactory solution to the conflict as one in which Muslims return to rulership of Jews and Christians in Palestine.

    It’s extremely refreshing to have someone dispense with all the slimy, insincere moralizing, and frankly present the issue.

    I don’t think Talha is honest on this score out of any integrity, but merely out of what has been called with regard to the Chinese “great civilization autism” – the fact that someone deeply immersed in an idiosyncratic culture, may well be oblivious to aspects of that culture that might appear controversial to others.

    • Thanks: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @silviosilver
  467. Mevashir says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Not only are the Jews laughing, true Muslim and Islamist are laughing at you. You have an audience of 3 on this website.

    Yes the Father Son and Holy Spirit and they aren’t 😂 at him but 😭 with him.

  468. Mevashir says:
    @Mouse

    When aliens write the history of Earth, Jews would figure prominently. Isn’t that something remarkable for such a tiny fraction of the world’s population? Wouldn’t you like to give them a nation of their own to see what else they’d come up with?

    They already control most of the countries in the world via the international banking system. Isn’t that enough for them? They live in exclusive gated communities all over the world isn’t that enough for them?

    What has their Zionist Homeland given to the rest of the world?

    Exploding Jew hatred.
    Massive refugee crises.
    The 9/11 nuclear attack on New York City.
    The unprovoked attack on the USS Liberty.
    The assassinations of JFK RFK and MLK.
    The commodification of the internet which is filled with spyware that tracks everything that we say write or purchase online.
    The “Patriot Act” that aims to destroy Liberty for true American patriots all justified by the false flag Israeli attack on 9/11.

    I don’t know why you are so obsequious and subservient to them. I feel sorry for you.

    I understand they are ruthless and intimidating, but Jesus said to fear not and he said that the darkness always hates the light and goes scurrying away from it into the shadows. You don’t need to fear them but simply fear their lies and uphold the Truth. Amen

    SALAAM 🤠

  469. @AaronB

    ‘…and all this before the invasion of Arab armies…’

    You know, given that the Jews advanced into the territory assigned to the Palestinian state and engaged ‘the Arab armies’ attempting to protect the Palestinians, perhaps you should drop ‘the invasion of the Arab armies’ schtick.

    It’s about as reasonable as a Nazi referring to the Germans responding to the ‘invasion of the Polish armies’ in 1939.

    Specifically…

    Lebanon didn’t enter Palestine at all.

    Transjordan explicitly confined its activities to that portion of Palestine allotted to the Palestinians.

    As to Syria: ‘…In May 1948, just before Syria sent its troops into Palestine, British intelligence estimated that Syria had no more than 4,500 men available to fight in Palestine.[90] Glubb Pasha estimated the number of Syrian troops available for duty in Palestine did not exceed 3,000; the CIA in late June counted a “total of 2,500 effective men” stationed near the Syrian border, 1000 deployed in Palestine and 1,500 near it on the Syrian side…’

    Iraq only sent troops some months after fighting broke out.

    That leaves Egypt. Egypt seems to have made a last-minute decision to enter the war, and whatever their intentions, their advance in fact ground to a halt along the original Partition line.

    So much for the invasion of the ‘five Arab armies.’ The only one that posed a serious threat was that of Transjordan, and they made it quite clear they weren’t going to invade the territory assigned to the Jewish state. Indeed, Transjordan and the Yishuv entered into talks before May 15th.

    • Agree: Taxi
    • Thanks: Mevashir
    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Mevashir
  470. @Colin Wright

    …I wonder how many Jews ever actually wanted to go to Palestine? Two hundred thousand? What do you think?

    What do you think Colin? You have all the answers. The Jews in Europe, many of whom were the only survivors of their family. Young adults, with no parents and no work could not return to their countries in Europe. They needed assistance and Jewish support from agencies to other survivors.
    Survivors did not survive as intact families.

    Of course the Jews weren’t ‘stateless.’ All the states they had come from were still there.

    Even then, the Zionists had to manipulate the process. When the U.N. sent representatives to the camps to find out where the Jews would actually like to go, the Zionists made sure they only talked to Zionists.

    Were you there Colin ? Did you hear those conversations? I know survivors who came to America because they had families to sponsor them. If you had family members in the US you went there. Jews did not want to resettle in Europe. You are remarkably ignorant of the complexity of what went on in the DP camps. But it seems like you were there. Time traveler?? You act like you have it recorded down. Oh so that is the way it happened. Thanks so much Colin for your brilliant insight.

    BTW do you know any survivors? Any children of survivors. Have you ever talked to a survivor who was sent to a DP camp? No I do not think so. People like you no nothing but what they are told. Do you know what the word DP stands for. Displaced Persons.

  471. Art says:
    @Mouse

    What remains, though, is that I wish success for the Israeli project (a strong, stable, prosperous nation), and I’d like the diaspora Jews to become less “progressive”.

    “Israeli project” is a Zionist Jew phrase.

    “(a strong, stable, prosperous nation)” is very debatable. Israel does not stand on its own. It is financed by the US taxpayer and protected militarly by the US government.

    Me thinks that you are not being straight with us.

    • Replies: @Mouse
  472. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    You know, given that the Jews advanced into the territory assigned to the Palestinian state and engaged ‘the Arab armies’ attempting to protect the Palestinians, perhaps you should drop ‘the invasion of the Arab armies’ schtick

    As my excerpts indicate (and wiki has many more), the Hagana at first refrained from attacking Arab territory and adopted a wait and see approach, holding out hope that the Arabs would still accept the Partition. This actually cost the Hagana casualties and military advantage.

    I am not sure what you think is the significance of Israel eventually advancing into enemy territory. You win wars by conquering your enemy. Hamas fires rockets from Gaza, to stop this, the Israelis sometimes advance into Gaza to stop this. This does not prove that Israel is the aggressor, obviously.

    That you have to resort to this level of argumentation, shows how weak your case is.

    Transjordan explicitly confined its activities to that portion of Palestine allotted to the Palestinians

    Incorrect, as usual. Jordan shelled and attacked Israeli Jerusalem and put it under a very deadly siege that was difficult to break. Jordan did not only use it’s positions in Arab territory to shell, snipe, and attack Israeli territory, it also attacked several Jewish towns and fierce battles were fought.

    That leaves Egypt. Egypt seems to have made a last-minute decision to enter the war, and whatever their intentions, their advance in fact ground to a halt along the original Partition line.

    Lol, I guess them that if I defend myself against a murderer, his intentions are insignificant, and I am the aggressor.

    As for Arab intentions, let us see about them –

    The Arab League gave reasons for its invasion in Palestine in the cablegram:[73]

    1) the Arab states find themselves compelled to intervene in order to restore law and order and to check further bloodshed

    2) the Mandate over Palestine has come to an end, leaving no legally constituted authority

    3) the only solution of the Palestine problem is the establishment of a unitary Palestinian state. (i.e, no Jewish independence)

    British diplomat Alec Kirkbride wrote in his 1976 memoirs about a conversation with the Arab League’s Secretary-General Azzam Pasha a week before the armies marched: “…when I asked him for his estimate of the size of the Jewish forces, [he] waved his hands and said: ‘It does not matter how many there are. We will sweep them into the sea.’”[74]

    Approximately six months previously, according to an interview in an 11 October 1947 article of Akhbar al-Yom, Azzam said: “I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the Crusades”.[undue weight? – discuss][75]

    Your style of argument appears to be inuendo and characterizing actions withoiy reference to context, intention, or sequence, such that if one combatant ends up in the others land, he just be the aggressor.

    This kind of illogical argument style is characteristic ofisraeks detractors in general, such that it doesn’t matter if Hamas initiated war by shooting rockets at civilians, the aggressor is the one who is more militarily successful and kills more people.

  473. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Try citing some reliable sources if you want to debate this in good faith.

    Ok, is the Arab League an objective enough source for you?

    “…..Despite the fact that skirmishes and battles have begun, the Jews at this stage are still trying to contain the fighting to as narrow a sphere as possible in the hope that partition will be implemented and a Jewish government formed; they hope that if the fighting remains limited, the Arabs will acquiesce in the fait accompli. This can be seen from the fact that the Jews have not so far attacked Arab villages unless the inhabitants of those villages attacked them or provoked them first.[31]”

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  474. Mevashir says:
    @Mouse

    Dear Miss Mouse, I have been pretty hard on you and I want to change tacks.

    You have a good and a generous spirit. You know Jewish people are smart and they’ve suffered in their history and you cut them a lot of Slack in the face of their aggression and disrespectful ways of speaking to you. That is very admirable.

    In Hebrew thought, which you seem to admire, a name is very important. A name defines a person’s destiny. Why do you think Jesus changed Peter’s name? Why did Paul change his name?

    So first thing I want to say is I recommend changing your moniker from Mouse. Pick a more noble animal. Just the name is enough to give you courage. Here’s a name I would recommend for you. Liviya (pronounced li-vee-YAH), which is Hebrew for lioness. A very proud strong and courageous creature indeed.

    I DON’T WANT TO SOUND SUPERIOR OR Haughty. I was raised in a secular Jewish family, became Ultra orthodox, and then converted to Christianity, so I’ve seen the gamut of Jewish lifestyles.

    Secular Jews tend to be very materialistic and alienated from the spirit. Orthodox Jews are spiritual but they tend to be arrogant condescending towards non-Jews and think that they own God.

    The rabbis in the Talmud have a very interesting teaching. They say that no one dies with half his or her material desires realized. What this means is surprisingly the more money a person has the more he feels he is lacking. A billionaire desires his second billion. A hedge fund owner with all of his incredible wealth wants to double it. No one is ever satisfied. This means that even though it’s a hardship to be poor, poverty has one advantage that you perceive what you are lacking is relatively small. So if you only have \$100 to your name you feel you are lacking that second hundred dollars.

    This concept might explain the puzzling rapacious greed of people like Madoff Weinstein and countless other Jewish billionaires, who never seem satisfied with what they have and they’re always finagling for greater wealth, more homes, more cars, more trophy wives, mistresses, more power.

    Although Jesus is not a magical solution, I have found he is the only source that helps to temper this ravenous greed for wealth pleasure and power. As you have noted, Jewish people are quite intelligent. They also are extremely aggressive as we see in someone like Fran. They achieve their financial goals and aim higher and higher. But those attitudes can become an addiction never satisfied always craving more never content with what one has.

    The ancient Rabbis said: “Who is a wealthy man? The person who is satisfied with his lot. Who is a strong man? He who overcomes his own evil lusts. Who is a wise man? One who learns from every person.”

    I have found in my spiritual journey that Jesus is the only person who empowers me to overcome my worst traits and tendencies. That’s why I am certain he is crucial to solving the problems in the Middle East and everywhere in the world. But precisely because Jewish people are so intelligent so aggressive and so talented, they need him more than anyone. As the Talmud says, without the yoke of Torah the Jews are so evil that they would destroy the entire world. And Jesus came along and taught that the yoke of Torah is only enough to expose our sinfulness but not to prevent it and really he is the key to our spiritual success and happiness, not to mention eternal life.

    What that means is Jewish people have enormous potential for good or for evil. And I believe it is only through the power conferred on us by Jesus that our energy and talents can be directed to the good and not the evil.

    I don’t know if you are a Christian or if you have any religious affiliation. But in your concern for Jewish people, which is admirable, please don’t forget the key ingredient that they need more than anything else which is a relationship with God that is available ONLY through the Messiah Jesus of Nazareth. They need that far more than they need a Homeland or specific piece of territory in the world. (I think even Miss Taxi [for some reason I feel certain Taxi is female], with all of her hatred and anger towards Israel, would agree that Jesus can only benefit Jewish people.)

    I do believe that the State of Israel helps drive Jewish people closer to Jesus, but it’s not necessary for that. So while your concern and compassion for Jews is very admirable, please don’t forget to share with them the CRUCIAL missing ingredient in their lives: Jesus Christ. And if you’re too intimidated to speak to them about that, at the very least pray for them. Do not be bashful to lift up their names before our Father God in Heaven and ask Him to save their souls.

    I WISH YOU EVERY BLESSING SUCCESS AND HAPPINESS AND thank you for allowing me to share these thoughts with you, Amen. 🌹

    • Replies: @Mouse
  475. @AaronB

    ‘As my excerpts indicate (and wiki has many more), the Hagana at first refrained from attacking Arab territory and adopted a wait and see approach, holding out hope that the Arabs would still accept the Partition…’

    Right. I was just looking at a list of operations mounted as part of Plan Dalet — before Partition.

    Eight out of the thirteen took place outside the territory assigned to the Jewish State.

    You’ve got to come up with better lies, Aaron. This is too easy.

    • Agree: Taxi
  476. Art says:
    @Fran Taubman

    My parents were clued to the radio during the UN vote, scared out of their wits for the safety of family members over there. There was no hubris, no suprematism, no arrogance. It was a a war of survival. That is the way the real Jews viewed it.

    So Taubman, what went wrong. Today we see nothing but hubris, supremacism, and arrogance from world Jewry.

    Today you Jews terrorize the West with your Stockholm deceit and trickery.

    Go ahead – pitch a bitch – scream “anti-Semite” – put a big fat guilt trip on the West who helped your folks after WWII. What fools they were.

    Truly – is there anything morally lower than empathy-less apartheid Israel and your Jew tribe.

    • Thanks: Taxi
  477. @AaronB

    ‘Ok, is the Arab League an objective enough source for you?’

    I was actually trying to find a copy of the original source for that…no dice.

    Sure it’s not manufactured?

    After all, the Jews were repeatedly attacking Palestinian villages without provocation. Factually, the quote is ridiculous.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  478. Avery says:
    @A123

    Allow me to respectfully disagree.

    Re, my original assertion:

    {“And as far as I know, Orthodox Jews in Israel are extremely hostile towards Christians there,”}

    To wit:

    [Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them]
    https://www.haaretz.com/1.4715226

    [A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem’s Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face. The clergyman prefered not to lodge a complaint with the police and told an acquaintance that he was used to being spat at by Jews.]

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54958353
    [An Israeli ambulance worker caught on camera spitting on portraits of Jesus while visiting a Christian home to carry out a Covid test has been fired.
    The medic was seen removing protective clothing before spitting on three pictures in the communal hallway of the block of flats in Jaffa in Tel Aviv.]

    Lots and lots of other similar examples, including Armenian clergy in Jerusalem being spat on. I understand that Orthodox Jews are not the Israeli Government, but Israeli authorities don’t appear to be particularly concerned about what the (radical) Orthodox Jews are doing.
    As in: ‘One less Christian (non-Jew) in Israel, so much the better.’

    Your witness, Sir.

    [NOTE: for the record, I am of Armenian ancestry. Armenian Apostolic Church Christian. I have no love for Muslims at large, particularly Sunny Muslims. (Shia Muslims, e.g. Alevi, Alawite different story.) I hate with a passion Muslim Turks and Muslim Kurds who organized (the former) and who collaborated and enthusiastically took part in (the latter) with the savage, nomad, invader Turks in carrying out the Armenian Genocide. ]

  479. @AaronB

    ‘I am not sure what you think is the significance of Israel eventually advancing into enemy territory. You win wars by conquering your enemy. Hamas fires rockets from Gaza, to stop this, the Israelis sometimes advance into Gaza to stop this. This does not prove that Israel is the aggressor, obviously.

    ‘That you have to resort to this level of argumentation, shows how weak your case is….’

    But that the Arabs were the aggressors wasn’t quite your claim, Aaron.

    Your claim was that the Arab armies ‘invaded’ the territory assigned to the Jewish state.

    Obviously, the location of the bulk of the fighting makes that claim absurd.

    If I’m found shot in your living room, it is possible that I somehow started our quarrel. To claim that it was you who was trespassing is manifestly ridiculous.

    That you have to resort to this level of argumentation, shows how weak your case is.

    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Fran Taubman
  480. Mevashir says:
    @Colin Wright

    Is this information accurate Colin? Can you provide references? This is definitely not the narrative that is taught to Jews either inside of Israel or out. I am not saying you are wrong just that your claims are startling to those of us who have never seen the other side of the conflict.

  481. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    But you’re quite simply wrong. All of the Arab armies invaded land assigned to the Jews and attacked Jewish villages and towns. Read Wiki, or any standard history.

    That they were not militarily strong enough to penetrate very far, and we’re pushed back, is again something I’m not sure what you hope to prove with.

    Also, the Arab League made quite clear that their intention in invading Palestine was to prevent Jewish independence and create a unitary state, including Jordan. After all, the Arab League rejected the Partition Plan.

    So there is no need to “deduce” things. The Arab League made quite clear that it’s intention was not merely to “protect* local Arabs, but to destroy the Jewish state and impose their own solution.

    Again, that the characteristic arguing style of anti-Zionists is always to ignore the stated intentions of all parties concerned, even the Arabs they are defending lol,and to claim that Arab military failures are proof of lack of aggressive intent, shows a very weak hand.

    The persistent attempt to determine aggression solely on the basis of military success – Israel killed more Hamas fighters than Hamas killed Israelis, so that proves Israel is the aggressor – will alienate thoughtful and intelligent people and attract the stupid and dishonest.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Mevashir
  482. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why not look at the footnote in the Wki article (the 1947 civil war is the article)?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  483. @Colin Wright

    Your claim was that the Arab armies ‘invaded’ the territory assigned to the Jewish state.

    Obviously, the location of the bulk of the fighting makes that claim absurd.

    If I’m found shot in your living room, it is possible that I somehow started our quarrel. To claim that it was you who was trespassing is manifestly ridiculous.

    Colin you are so so dense. What happened in 1948 did not take place on a football field, with one side advancing and the other side retreating. It was CAHOS. Do you understand the phenomena of many competing scenarios and battles taking place at once in different locations. People coming, people going. It was a mess.

    The Jews declared an independent state, the Arabs rejected it. Thats all there is to the story. Who or how the fighting began is pointless. Obviously the Jews felt outnumbered and were going to resort to any tactual advantage they could, so they may have flanked and attacked.

    This has nothing to do with who was found shot in your living room. You are just too dense to talk to. It was not in your living room. It was more like being in a force 10 hurricane. Are you going to know who is standing in front of you? That is what it was like.

    It is the same stupid argument that make about people in a Displaced Persons Camp. To you they are not displaced persons, of course they can go back to their former country. No Colin they are displaced persons, they have no where to go.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  484. @AaronB

    ‘Why not look at the footnote in the Wki article (the 1947 civil war is the article)?’

    I did — of course.

    It doesn’t lead to the actual quotation.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @AaronB
  485. @Fran Taubman

    ‘…The Jews declared an independent state, the Arabs rejected it. Thats all there is to the story… ‘

    Lol. Right, Fran.

  486. @AaronB

    ‘But you’re quite simply wrong. All of the Arab armies invaded land assigned to the Jews and attacked Jewish villages and towns. Read Wiki, or any standard history…’

    As I already demonstrated, this is utter fantasy.

    ‘All of the Arab armies…’ You will never be able to show that a Lebanese, Iraqi, or Jordanian force entered ‘the land assigned to the Jews.’ The Syrians (who barely had an army) did (rather late in the day) cross the frontier and mount one abortive attack on a border kibbutz. As noted, the Egyptians came to a halt along the demarcation line.

    Now you’re just forcing me to go in circles. You’re simply insisting on regurgitating demonstrable falsehoods. ‘All of the Arab armies invaded land assigned to the Jews and attacked Jewish villages and towns.’ This is an untrue statement. It’s provably untrue. Why do you feel compelled to repeat it?

    • Replies: @AaronB
  487. @Colin Wright

    Colin is the most obnoxious conversant on UR. The Arab rejection of the Jewish state is discussed in letter after letter and during the UN debate. The Arabs made major tactual errors, they themselves contributed to their own fate, by declaring in clear language their plan for the Jews was to drive them in to the sea. It was very loud and very specific. They meant it. What did they think was going to happen? The Jews were fighting for their lives. Talking to Colin is like talking to a 5 year old.
    I honestly would rather talk to Taxi. Just leave it.

    • Troll: Taxi
  488. What is there to argue about when, prior to zionism, Jews made up 5% of the population of Palestine, and were mainly based in several cities? It’s no secret that the vast majority of Israeli Jews came from outside of Palestine and Palestinians were ethnically cleansed to make room for incoming Jews? There is nothing to argue about. Either you support what happened, or you don’t. It’s completely dishonest to claim that the Palestinians have no claim to the land, and delusional to think that they will just give up, and then to claim that Jews from around the world have some ancient claim to the land that they are entitled to aggressively pursue.

    • Agree: Taxi
  489. @Triteleia Laxa

    That’s cute. If it’s in italics, it must be true. Now let’s check an actual source:

    Herodotus, the Father of History, writing in 450 BC, mentions “Palestine” multiple times in The History. Yet “Israel,” “Judea,” “Hebrews,” “jews,” etc… nope. Not a one.

    Huh.

  490. @AaronB

    As insincere, ingratiating, and fake-pious as Talha is, he has the great virtue of being naively non-Western, in that he operates from a non-Western perspective that does not even realize it might be controversial in Western terms.

    I don’t think that’s true at all. I think he’s far more self-aware than you give him credit for. I think he just expected to find a receptive audience here, given there are so many hardcore rightwingers who oppose Jews/Israel and lefty “pozz.” I’m sure that in real life he’s much more circumspect. Speaking the right way to the right audience is all part of his proselytizing mission.

    • Replies: @AaronB
  491. I don’t think that’s true at all. I think he’s far more self-aware than you give him credit for. I think he just expected to find a receptive audience here, given there are so many hardcore rightwingers who oppose Jews/Israel and lefty “pozz.”

    Why do you think he left?

  492. @Exile

    It’s hardly safe to walk the streets of Beverly Hills or Fairfax in LA with a rake or a hoe in your hand – Jewish bankers will sweat-stain their suits chasing you down the street to tear it from your goyish hands and start tilling some sweet earth.

    That sounds like one of them there “antisemiticist canards.” Certain to be an exaggeration. Let’s see — what are they doing in Beverly Hills these days…

    Arenda Capital Management? That’s a odd word. Is it someone’s name? Does it mean anything in particular? Let’s check the Jewish Virtual Library:

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/arenda-jewish-virtual-library


    i. Great Arenda

    This term refers to the lease of public revenues and monopolies. The first leases to be held by Jews were of royal revenues and functions: the mint, salt mines, customs, and tax farming

    Ah, for the good old days of the goyim slaving in the salt mines, and squeezing them for more taxes. Nostalgia is always… touching.

    The Va’ad Medinat Lita (Lithuanian Council) therefore twice passed a resolution supporting the lease of customs and taxes by Jews, stating: “We have openly seen the great danger deriving from the operation of customs in Gentile hands; for the customs to be in Jewish hands is a pivot on which everything (in commerce) turns, since thereby Jews may exert control

    ii. Agricultural Arenda

    This term refers to the lease of landed estates or of specific branches (in agriculture, forestry, and processing), in which Jews gradually became predominant in eastern Poland during the 16th and 17th centuries… Many a lease originated in a loan to the estate owner, who mortgaged the general or certain specific revenues from his land as security

    Doesn’t really sound as if they’re very eager to work the land themselves, does it?

  493. @Mevashir

    ‘Is this information accurate Colin? Can you provide references? This is definitely not the narrative that is taught to Jews either inside of Israel or out. I am not saying you are wrong just that your claims are startling to those of us who have never seen the other side of the conflict.’

    Aloha. I’d recommend Benny Morris’ 1948. Most of what I claim can be found therein.

    I mention it not because it’s objective — it’s not. Morris is an avowed Zionist, and cheerfully omits facts, deploys all the devices of rhetoric, and makes it appear events occurred in a different order than they did — all in order to make the Jews look as good as possible. However, he draws the line at outright lies, and his very bias can allow the reader to rest assured that if Morris says the Jews committed a given massacre, all the evidence is that they really did.

    Having digested 1948 as a foundation, you can move on to Ilhan Pappe, Alison Weir, et al. You’ll find they’re consistently accurate.

    There’s no need to lie about any of this. The truth is entirely sufficient to damn Israel.

  494. @James Forrestal

    Arabs did not exist in that land prior to Mohammed’s conquests.

    The Palestinians call themselves Arabs, speak Arabic and look like Arabs. They also worship the main Arabic God. The adopted moniker of “Palestinian” is the only evidence I have that they are not.

    So are they? I don’t know.

  495. @Triteleia Laxa

    ‘Aren’t the Palestinians Arab?’

    So? What’s the significance of that?

    Bretons are Celts. It doesn’t follow they should all be deported to Ireland.

    Actually, and if you want to get into it all, it would appear that the bulk of those inhabitants of Palestine who practiced Judaism stayed right there in Palestine until the eighth or ninth century, when most of them appear to have converted to Islam.

    Today, they are known as ‘Palestinians.’ Some, of course, had become Christians — and continued to be Christians.

    Today, they too are known as ‘Palestinians.’

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  496. AaronB says:
    @silviosilver

    You may well be right.

    He definitely modifies his persona depending on his audience, and is extremely careful about his self-preservation.

  497. @AaronB

    ‘Your style of argument appears to be inuendo and characterizing actions withoiy reference to context, intention, or sequence, such that if one combatant ends up in the others land, he just be the aggressor.

    This kind of illogical argument style is characteristic ofisraeks detractors in general, such that it doesn’t matter if Hamas initiated war by shooting rockets at civilians, the aggressor is the one who is more militarily successful and kills more people.’

    Obviously, you’d need to replace ‘Hamas’ with a more appropriate term, and perhaps some of the military references, but I imagine in general you could employ these paragraphs in any argument.

    Did you write them yourself, or crib them from somewhere?

  498. AaronB says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t know, according to Wikipedia, at the end of the first phase of fighting –

    The combined Arab forces captured 14 Jewish settlement points, but only one of them, Mishmar HaYarden, was in the territory of the proposed Jewish State according to Resolution 181. Within the boundaries of the proposed Jewish state, there were twelve Arab villages which opposed Jewish control or were captured by the invading Arab armies, and in addition to them, the Lod Airport and pumping station near Antipatris, which were within the boundaries of the proposed Jewish state, were under the control of the Arabs. The IDF captured about 50 large Arab villages outside of the boundaries of the proposed Jewish State and a larger number of hamlets and Bedouin encampments. 350 square kilometres of the proposed Jewish State were under the control of the Arab forces, while 700 square kilometres of the proposed Arab State were under the control of the IDF. This figure ignores the Negev desert which was not under any absolute control of either side.[175][page needed]

    In addition to this, during this phase various Jewish towns were taken and recaptured.

    That being said, it doesn’t really matter. If you would like me to amend my language, I will say give Arab armies “attacked” the newly formed Jewish state with the publicly stated intent to destroy it, rather than “invaded” – if that’s what makes you happy 🙂

    Ok, so what now?

  499. Mevashir says:

    Morris is an avowed Zionist, and cheerfully omits facts, deploys all the devices of rhetoric, and makes it appear events occurred in a different order than they did — all in order to make the Jews look as good as possible.

    Thank you for this explanation. How do you know the events in Morris’s book are out of order? Is that by comparing to the other books that you mentioned?

    When I lived in Israel we would go on tours of historic sites. There was a ferocious military battle at Latrun junction approaching Jerusalem. There was fighting in the Upper Galilee. And I recall hearing that the Egyptian Air Force bombed Tel Aviv. How does that square with your claim that all the fighting was in the designated Palestinian region? If the Arab League rejected the Partition Plan, why would they respect the Partition boundary?

  500. @Mevashir

    Is this information accurate Colin? Can you provide references?

    With respect to Jordan, Avi Shlaim has written at length about collusion between King Abdullah and the Jewish Agency. Essentially, each tried to use the other to further its own aims, the JA in order to ensure as much Jewish immigration as possible, and Abdullah to claim jurisdiction over as much of Palestine (indeed, over “Greater Syria”) as possible. On the brink of the British departure and after the Zionist atrocity in Deir Yassin and the expulsion of Arabs from urban population centers, the various Arab sides, as yet unprepared for full-scale war had nonetheless devised plans; things shaped up this way for Abdullah:

    The fundamental difference between the Damascus plan and the Hashemite plan lay in their responses to the challenge of the emergent Jewish state. The former envisaged crippling the Jewish state by the co-ordinated attack of four Arab armies on its northern part where much of the manpower, water, and agricultural resources were located. In the less definite second stage it was hoped to reach Haifa and deprive the Jewish state of its major seaport. The Hashemite plan, on the other hand, did not envisage an attack on Jewish territory and was not directed at preventing the establishment of a Jewish state. An armed confrontation with the Jewish state was precisely what Abdullah was anxious to avoid, hence his objection to the Damascus plan. The success of that plan spelled doom for his own. Were the Jewish state to disintegrate and the Syrian and Egyptian armies to emerge victorious, it would have been unlikely, to say the least, that the Arab League would have allowed Abdullah to take the West Bank. His plan assumed and even required a Jewish presence rather than a military victory by his Arab rivals.

    – Avi Shlaim, “The Politics of Partition” 1991, p159.

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  501. Mevashir says:
    @AaronB

    Also, the Arab League made quite clear that their intention in invading Palestine was to prevent Jewish independence and create a unitary state, including Jordan. After all, the Arab League rejected the Partition Plan.

    This was the first choice position of the religious Jews living in Palestine. To live in a unified State under Jordanian rule. Had the Arab League won the 1948 war, what would have happened to the Jews living in Palestine? Would the religious Jews have been allowed to stay while the secular extremist Zionists would have been expelled?

  502. It’s unfortunate that these ignorant, hate-filled Nakba denialists continue to spew their mindless vitriol and their long-debunked semitic canards in the current year.

    It’a almost as if they’re shamelessly projecting their genocidal hatred of the goy Other onto the targets of that hatred. Or something.

    https://www.deiryassin.org/

  503. @James Forrestal

    ‘…Herodotus, the Father of History, writing in 450 BC, mentions “Palestine” multiple times in The History. Yet “Israel,” “Judea,” “Hebrews,” “jews,” etc… nope. Not a one…’

    Here, I’m thinking aloud, and touching on points I’m not sure of to boot, so I’d be genuinely interested in any corrections concerning matters of fact from anyone who isn’t Aaron, Fran, or any of our other Hasbaristen.

    To begin with, the Old Testament exerts a baleful influence on all discussions of matters Palestinian, since it creates an illusion of a history when it is nothing of the kind. The Old Testament tells us no more about ancient Palestine than ‘The Tales of King Arthur’ tell us about Dark Age Britain.

    To go by what we can know, the Elephantine Papyrus allow us to infer Judaism did not exist as anything anyone from today would recognize as Judaism. The faith described in those scrolls is obviously an antecedent to Judaism, but it’s not the same. Multiple gods, temples outside Jerusalem — nah, not Judaism.

    That’s the fifth century BC. No Judaism then. No more than Magna Carta means thirteenth century England was a democracy.

    Conversely, a Judaism we would all recognize clearly did exist by the second century AD or so.

    In between? There were obviously a lot of cultic beliefs and texts. That much, the Dead Sea Scrolls tell us. Certainly there were ‘Jews.’ To what extent they were Jews Fran would recognize is another matter.

    One of the more intriguing lines of thought is to what extent was early Christianity really distinct from Judaism. Couldn’t it have been been just one more cult in a Judaism that was still a mass of competing cults? Perhaps it was only later that Christianity came to be seen as clearly distinct.

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  504. @Colin Wright

    Yes, I agree with your characterization of Benny Morris and with your logic.

    Although Benny Morris was accused of being anti-Zionist radical when he first documented the expulsions of Arabs, this 2004 Haaretz interview (reproduced at Counterpunch) makes his Zionist credentials very, very clear.

    Some excerpts:

    Ben-Gurion was a “transferist”?

    “Of course. Ben-Gurion was a transferist. He understood that there could be no Jewish state with a large and hostile Arab minority in its midst. There would be no such state. It would not be able to exist.”

    I don’t hear you condemning him.

    “Ben-Gurion was right. If he had not done what he did, a state would not have come into being. That has to be clear. It is impossible to evade it. Without the uprooting of the Palestinians, a Jewish state would not have arisen here.”

    You went through an interesting process. You went to research Ben-Gurion and the Zionist establishment critically, but in the end you actually identify with them. You are as tough in your words as they were in their deeds.

    “You may be right. Because I investigated the conflict in depth, I was forced to cope with the in-depth questions that those people coped with. I understood the problematic character of the situation they faced and maybe I adopted part of