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India is now airing war-preparation instructions on public television. Not in whispers, not buried in late-night newscasts, but in the middle of the day—on every channel. The message is explicit: here’s what to do if you’re attacked, how to find shelter, what to listen for. It’s no longer theory. It’s a warning dressed as instruction.

The subcontinent is not a stranger to tension, but this isn’t the usual border posturing. The official tone, the level of public dissemination, and the chilling normalcy with which these PSAs are presented suggest something far more serious. The Indian government is not merely preparing the military—it is preparing the population.

In recent days, the Line of Control in Kashmir lit up again with shelling and drone activity. According to Reuters, Pakistan reported that three of its air bases were targeted by Indian missiles. Yet, after this flare-up, calm returned. The Indian Army confirmed that border areas experienced a relatively quiet night following Operation Sindoor, which reportedly struck militant camps across the LoC. While a ceasefire has been declared, this calm feels less like resolution and more like a pause between acts.

But to focus only on Kashmir is to misread the broader theater. The confrontation isn’t local—it’s global. This is the visible tip of an iceberg reshaping the post-Cold War order.

India’s growing alignment with the expanded BRICS bloc—now including Russia, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Brazil—is upending the unipolar model dominated by the West. What began as an economic forum has hardened into a multipolar counterweight, developing energy trade routes, alternative currency systems, and parallel intelligence-sharing networks. India, meanwhile, walks a precarious line—balancing deeper economic ties with Russia and China while relying on defense and surveillance support from Washington and Tel Aviv.

That’s where Israel enters the battlefield—as per usual. Though not a BRICS member, Israel has deeply integrated itself into India’s defense infrastructure. Since the 2008 Mumbai attacks, the two countries have forged a potent alliance around counterterrorism and digital warfare. Israeli Heron and Searcher drones patrol India’s northern borders. Spike anti-tank missiles are deployed across Indian forward posts . Real-time airborne radar systems, co-developed with Israel and Russia, surveil contested terrain.

Behind the scenes, Israeli advisors have trained Indian intelligence and urban combat units, and Israeli cybersecurity firms—some allegedly tied to NSO Group–grade spyware—have helped India track dissent, espionage threats, and insurgent networks. Israel, officially outside both NATO and BRICS, has become a central nervous system in the world’s most volatile flashpoints—from the Golan Heights to Gujarat.

Meanwhile, the China factor looms large. Pakistan has increasingly turned to Chinese military technology across domains—drones, missile systems, radar arrays. India, conversely, leans on Western and Israeli platforms. As U.S. Senator and former Navy SEAL Tim Sheehy recently stated: “Pakistan appears to have won all its partnerships so far with Chinese technology, as opposed to Western technology, which India uses mostly. This is not to our advantage. China is no longer a ‘near-peer competitor,’ but a ‘peer-to-peer competitor’ with the United States.”

Indeed, Hua Bin notes on Unz:

The world just witnesses a shockingly one-sided air war between Pakistan and India last week. Pakistan air force, equipped with Chinese weapon systems, took down a large number of India air combat assets while suffering zero loss.

The air battle featured Chinese-made J-10C fighters, PL-15 air to air missiles, HQ-9 air defense system, and ZDK-03 AWACS. Reported India losses included 3 French-made Rafale fighters, 1 Russia-made Su-30, 1 MiG-29, and 1 Israel-made Heron UAV.

What makes the outcome so shocking is that the Rafale fighter, sold to India at $240 million each, is often lauded as the most advanced European fighter jet, didn’t manage to put up any fight in the confrontation with J-10C. The Mica and Meteor air-to-air missiles carried by Rafale were discovered intact/unfired in the wreckage.

J-10C, by no means a backward fighter, is considered as well past its prime in the Chinese air force whose more advanced fighters include J-20, J-35 (both 5th generation stealth fighters), J-16, J-15 (4.5th generation multirole fighters), let alone the 6th generation fighters (J-36 and J-50) that are being tested.

J-10C is mainly for exports these days. Pakistan has acquired them at $40 million per unit. A few Middle Eastern nations are also considering the jet, including Egypt. Typically Chinese military export is one or one and a half generation behind what the PLA equips itself.

In all fairness, Rafale would be a strong match against J-10C in a head-to-head dog fight. At $240 million, it is even for more expensive than F-35.

Then, how did the Indian air force suffer such a humiliating one-sided loss against a much smaller Pakistan air force?

The answer lies in the strength of the integrated Chinese weapon system used by Pakistan.

Rather than using a hodgepodge of weapons sourced from France, Russia, Israel, and the US, as is the case with India, Pakistan utilized a full suite of highly integrated and synchronised air combat systems from China …

This geopolitical tech divergence isn’t just academic—it’s battlefield reality. In a world increasingly shaped by real-time cyberwarfare, energy flows, and AI-driven surveillance, the supplier matters as much as the strategy. And BRICS, flush with Chinese capital and Russian oil, is rapidly building the scaffolding of a new order.

But perhaps the earliest tremor of this multipolar conflict came not from the battlefield, but from a tweet.

In 2021, when Rihanna expressed support for Indian farmers protesting agricultural reforms, the Modi government reacted as if hit by an airstrike. Greta Thunberg followed. Delhi accused these figures of participating in an international conspiracy. A domestic labor protest had transformed into a global political fault line.

This hypersensitivity wasn’t just political theater—it was strategic paranoia. It revealed how India saw itself: a rising power under siege, not only by neighbors, but by ideas, images, and narratives. Rihanna’s tweet wasn’t merely seen as a PR headache—it was treated like a front in a war of perception.

And four years later, it seems prophetic.

India isn’t merely preparing for conventional war—it’s readying itself for a multi-domain crisis that spans physical borders, cyberspace, energy pipelines, satellite networks, and information flows. Kashmir is one front. Taiwan is another. The Red Sea, Gaza, the South China Sea—all fragments of an entangled system of friction.

This isn’t a world war in the 1940s sense. It’s a networked war—one where militaries, media, malware, and monetary systems clash across time zones and platforms.

And as BRICS fortifies itself against Western economic weapons, and Western proxies consolidate along Asia’s rim, the question isn’t if there will be a flashpoint.
It’s whether we’ll even recognize the war when it’s already well underway.

Wars no longer need declarations.

They just need normalization.

And when a government begins airing public instructions on how to survive an attack, that normalization has already begun.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Notsofast says:

    Behind the scenes, Israeli advisors have trained Indian intelligence and urban combat units, and Israeli cybersecurity firms—some allegedly tied to NSO Group–grade spyware—have helped India track dissent, espionage threats, and insurgent networks. Israel, officially outside both NATO and BRICS, has become a central nervous system in the world’s most volatile flashpoints—from the Golan Heights to Gujarat.

    well there’s your problem right there, as they say the devil is in the details. modi’s duplicitous nature was fully revealed in his support and participation, in the israel genocide of the people of gaza. this is truly sad, for israel has been revealed to the world, as the genocidal monsters they are. they have lost support for their dark apartheid state all around the world. now they have the chance to buddy up, to a billion hindus and take advantage of their existing hatred of muslims, generated by 800 years of conflict.

    i wouldn’t be surprised if the “terrorist attact”, wasn’t a false flag, staged by the same people that brought you “isis”. this is also playing into the hands of the u.s., that want to destroy brics. perhaps india should be replaced by iran, as the “i” in brics, to insure harmony and stability in the group. modi is a fool, who is hooking his wagon to a dying horse, as evidenced by his rafales all being shot down before they could come into the range of their pathetic mica missiles.

  2. Best case scenario they nuke each other into oblivion. Then perhaps someday a White American might be able to own a 7-11. More importantly little White British school girls will no longer get kidnapped, raped and murdered.

  3. Saggy says: • Website

    Well, if you really think the Jews are evil, and are manipulating the world to achieve their goal of the extermination of all us goyim …. I just came across the ultimate conspiracy theory today … I’ve been aware of CJB for years, and he is on the fringe but he knows more about the Kabala and Jewish mysticism and machinations than any other non-Jew … and he says it’s all part of the plan and he lays it out in the vid below. He emphasizes that we are close to Armageddon, and says the only reason it didn’t happen was the superiority of the Pakistani air operations …



    Video Link

  4. Aragorn says:

    If not the use of Greta Thunberg for to sell electrical cars and kill bees by Rothschild are a international conspiracy, nothing is. It had be much better she had get fucked, no environmental damage by that. Only eu-nucks dont understand that white women refusing sex, are the evil. “Rape” declare the state as owner of women. White males are semi-castrated.

  5. valconius says:

    India being the weak link is not what I expected in WW3 bingo but it’s clear in hindsight. It’s rather sad. Europeans have Evangelicals, Muslims have Wahhabists, and it seems Indians have Hindutva. I am not aware of anything like this pan-Aryan phenomenon elsewhere in the world or in human history. Sure, groups like Mongols and Arabs and similar groups seemed to have ethnic unity against foreigners and generally bested their neighbors, and sure, they seemed to have a religion that commanded them to murder for God, but no one ever actually believed it, and they typically fought to benefit their own group. But, the Aryan habit seems to have been to first enslave fellow Aryans to Jews and then… do a giant battle royale colloseum match? It’s rather weird, and every Aryan somehow winds up believing it is their duty to participate in this pan-racial mental retardation.

  6. Q: How many Indians does it take to change a lightbulb?

    A: Two.
    One to change the bulb, and the other to stand next to him and shout out repeatedly that light bulbs were invented in ancient India.

    • LOL: TitusAlone
    • Replies: @Skyler the Weird
    , @Pythas
  7. @Notsofast

    Imho – Modi relying on Bibi and Israel is not a bright move. Pakistan is the only Muslin nation with nuclear weapons, that may soon change.

  8. Anon[138] • Disclaimer says:

    Most of the above are lies…..

    DEVASTATING takedown by ex-Pentagon official Michael Rubin:

    “Pakistan’s military didn’t just lose — they begged for a ceasefire like a scared dog. Total humiliation. Incompetent, corrupt, and a cancer on the nation.” Even questions if Gen. Asim Munir will survive this disgrace.

    https://twitter.com/meghupdates/status/1922761807464112429?s=51&t=JdIMSybDnC2S7CcuRpP8RQ

    • Replies: @Corrupt
    , @rgl
    , @John Trout
  9. Xavier says:

    I’ve wondered for the longest time what exactly is India doing in BRICS. India’s participation in the old Non Aligned movement from the 60s made sense due to Nehru’s ideological convictions. But the Hindutva looms today envy the power of the US and Israel. To the pathetic Hindu mind, power = impunity, and India is desperate to sit at the same table as the US and Israel. They are desperate to be perceived as powerful even though they are a third rate power. From from being anti imperialism like they were under Nehru, they now want to be the imperialists themselves.

    • Replies: @Anonymous45
    , @Rev. Spooner
  10. ghali says:

    The distortion of events by Western media was outrageous. Pakistan is often portrayed as a weak nation at the mercy of “Islamists.” India is described a a “giant democracy” and an “IT ehub” which load of BS. This coverage is similar to how Western media portrays the Israeli (US) air force, which has been targeting schools, medical facilities, refugee shelters, and mosques where unarmed women and children seek refuge. It is important to note that India has supported Israel’s actions against Palestinian civilians and has been supplying weapons to Israel. President Putin may claim to oppose fascism and Nazism, but are there leaders who align more closely with fascist ideologies than Modi and Netanyahu?

    During a recent dogfight, India lost eight aircraft, including five French aircraft. Modi’s Mossad agents, who were present in occupied Kashmir, quickly retreated to New Delhi before Pakistan retaliated by bombing India in occupied Kashmir.
    India is now one of the few destinations where Jewish soldiers from the Israeli Defense Forces (“IDF”) who have committed crimes against women and children are sent to “recuperate.” Sri Lanka, New Zealand, and Thailand are the other destinations. It is believed that Jews now control most of the drug, pedophilia, and prostitution industries in these countries.

    • Replies: @Chinchinchin
    , @Malla
  11. Looger says:

    India and Pakistan are right on top of each other and tied together for water resources. I can’t believe there hasn’t been an endgame approached yet with:

    1) nuclear arms (it could be said these kept the peace)

    2) the bloody borders of islam and the ongoing open sore of 100M’s of muslims in India

    3) the recent (re)turn in indian politics towards hindu nationalism

    4) constant beligerance by America and China over Kashmir / Punjab (China) and Afghanistan’s leaky border and internal conflicts (America’s legacy). Also America previously using ongoing central Asia conflicts to justify drone bases within striking distance of backwoods China (waziristan)

    5) The equalization arms race of Chinese technology and an open market that features bizarre possibilities such as the Pakistani-made JF-17s being considered by Argentina of all places, and the need for those industries to… demonstrate

    This is a boiling pot on an abandoned stove.

    It’d be great if the rest of us just left the house already.

  12. Looger says:
    @Tennessee Jed

    More importantly little White British school girls will no longer get kidnapped, raped and murdered.

    RACIST!

    • Agree: Tennessee Jed
    • Replies: @Pythas
  13. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tennessee Jed

    Indians Pakistani never sanctioned ,insulted, subjugated, enslaved crossed the oceans to bomb millions of non whites in all four corners of the world, still counting in Palestine. Your five hundred years of killing has not quenched your thirst for non white blood, Gaza exposes your so called judeo Christian,white values.

  14. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:

    Perhaps the best comment is this:

    During the 1999 ‘Kargil War’ a Cockney Londoner of whom I was acquainted, on hearing that India and Pakistan were at the brink of all out war, made the classic remark “let them blow each other to bits”.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  15. Nowhere says:

    Russian Disinformation On the Rise as U.S. Election Approaches

    Russian Bears were israeli hackers linked to Cambridge Analytica electronic coup d’etat. Israel and Washington are the ones spreading pro-russian narratives… This talmudic scripted war between Europe and Russia is organised by the apocalyptical sect of the chabads established in Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Germany, France, UK, USA, Israel, UAE, India.

    A French report on a Russian disinformation operation dubbed Storm-1516, which aims to discredit Ukrainian authorities and undermine Western support for Ukraine, draws in part on investigations conducted by an anonymous account. This account’s publications stopped abruptly after Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (#DOGE) dismantled #USAID, which provided an opportunity for Russian disinformation to link the concept of wasteful USAID spending with the notion that President Zelensky is unpopular.

    The report reveals that Storm-1516 has been active since August 2023, conducting 77 operations aimed at undermining trust in Ukraine and Western democracies, particularly ahead of key elections in Europe and the U.S.

    The initial distribution of content in the Storm-1516 campaign is carried out via anonymous accounts controlled by operatives or paid accounts, followed by “laundering” the narrative through foreign media and amplification by networks of pro-Russian actors.

    The dismantling of USAID by DOGE and Musk’s subsequent posts on X have provided a platform for Russian disinformation to spread more widely, reinforcing Russian talking points among those who are already receptive to such messages.

    Elon Musk is maneuvering this war for Israel, the same way he rigged the US elections using his satellites for his electronic coup d’etat, and will strike the USA using EMP space weapon. He is the one organising the coups d’etat in Europe with genocider Netanyahu in Europe to impose pro-israel far right in Europe, and push them to attack Russia after the mossad cbrn false flags, which will be blamed on Russians. When this happens, Putin will be replaced by far right nationalists controlled by the Rothschilds in Russia, and like the ukrainians, germans will launch talmudic wars, purification wars, ethnical cleansing wars. This is their plan and the way they want to destroy Edom/Esau in a global war.

    https://thedebrief.org/russian-disinformation-on-the-rise-as-u-s-election-approaches/

  16. The “Hua Bin” article is amateurish and I am surprised by the inclusion of this article by UNZ ( also another one devoted to India treating the nation with utter contempt). Hua Bin due to patriotic fervor wrote the article in a hurry without checking facts.
    True Israel supplies weapons to India but they are of high quality.

    • Replies: @kicktheroos
    , @Notsofast
  17. @ghali

    The loss of Indian Fighter Jets is false. And Dog Fights do not determine wars. India crushed Pakistan decisively with its Modern Warfare.
    A former Pentagon Official, stated :-“Pakistan ran away with its tail between its legs”…..

  18. “J-10C, by no means a backward fighter, is considered as well past its prime in the Chinese air force” The most shocking would be that this “Chinese” fighter is actually developed in 80’s by Israel Lavi. Just like Chinese were buying and bringing form the former USSR everything that was not nailed to the wall , China also bought Lavi project after israel shelved it under USA pressure. Regarding Indians losing air fights I would not be surprised. Indians are turning everything into terrible mess. I worked with them and cannot remember such a messy poorly organized people.
    Just like Arabs losing air fights to Israel did not mean that Soviet airplanes were of poor design. Human factor is very important in combat.

    • Replies: @Bruce Arney
  19. anonymous[328] • Disclaimer says:

    when a government begins airing public instructions on how to survive an attack, that normalization has already begun

    Back in the fifties US schoolchildren went through nuclear attack drills, laying down under their desks or in the hallways. Here in the Midwest we had air raid sirens being tested weekly, now still once a month first Tuesday at 10 am. Public service announcements were made constantly what to do just in case of nuclear attack. The drumbeat of war has been an inescapable part of American life for the past eighty years. We’ve always been about to get attacked, have a nuclear holocaust with countless shows and movies invoking that theme. We’ve all been living under the gun here.

  20. From a tourist’s point of view, perhaps India is a tiny bit more attractive than Pakistan but then, a sh*thole organised through a caste system and run by Jew-loving Brahmins on one side vs Asia Bibi’s lynchers and Rotherham paedophiles on the other, one feels hard pressed to have any sympathy for either.

    • Replies: @farway
  21. @Anonymous

    But let say Mongols crossed and subjugated large parts the whole of Eurasia and murdering millions across their path including white people of Kievan Rus. Not a pip about those? “Indians Pakistani never sanctioned ,insulted, subjugated, enslaved crossed the oceans to bomb millions of non whites in all four corners of the world” . Unlike India , which is blessed with wealth , Europe was poor and needed resources and here came capitalism which needs those resources even more. It has nothing to do with race or skin colour but with underlying reality. You are as racist as those who you blame in racism.

  22. @Notsofast

    The Mumbai terrorist attack was a Mossad event to further tie India to Jewry with
    „Israeli Counter Terrorism Assistance“.

    (The Hindu Times and the Times of India are written by Jews resp. Jewish trained monkeys.)

  23. @Anonymous

    Trump stopping this war, as he claims, must the most stupid thing he’s ever done. He’s done nobody any favours with this. He should have pushed for escalation until total obliteration.

    • Replies: @Chinchinchin
  24. veryfast says:
    @Notsofast

    Very foolish post.

    • Troll: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Notsofast
  25. @Commentator Mike

    Pakistan has made a crypto-Deal with the Trump Family or persons connected to Trump.

    • Replies: @anon
  26. @Xavier

    India is desperate to sit at the same table as the US and Israel. They are desperate to be perceived as powerful even though they are a third rate power.

    True to their Indian nature of craving for the best of both worlds, they will likely lose both and continue their street shitting culture while awaiting for better toilet access for their stratified citizenry, with Dalits sitting at the bottom of the shit pile.

  27. farway says:
    @Passing by

    Certainly you are on dope. The Monarchy V Common People in Western Europe and The UK,Gentlemen V Commoners in Britain, CEOs V Employees , the many Cadres in Church etc, Monarchy in the Arab World are all modern-day Casteism.

    • Replies: @Passing by
    , @迪路
  28. @Chinchinchin

    Why did French intelligence confirm the loss of Indian jets then?

    • Replies: @Chinchinchin
    , @迪路
  29. shahnameh says:

    Michael Rubin why not dead Yitzhak Rabin who could explain his killer was actually Muslim:) Zwi Migdal the gift that just keeps on giving.

  30. And as BRICS fortifies itself against Western economic weapons …

    Some say that India is a weak link in the chain, and would prefer US interests, to the expansion of BRICS.

  31. Ed Case says:
    @Tennessee Jed

    If you mean events in Rotherham and other northern English cities over a 15 year period, your “schoolgirls’ were actually teenaged sluts in Care Homes, known elsewhere as Juvenile Detention.
    So, the odds were they were going to get theselves in serious trouble sooner or later, and it turned out to be sooner

    • Troll: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Tennessee Jed
  32. anon[172] • Disclaimer says:

    Here’s what you need to know about the future of India and Pakistan:


    Video Link

  33. anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinchinchin

    Wow! At first I thought you were joking, but it’s real!


    Video Link

    • Thanks: Agent76
  34. @Passing by

    Pl provide the link for your claim.

    • Replies: @Passing by
    , @anon
  35. @farway

    Contrary to India, it wasn’t always so in the West. There used to be vertical social mobility in the West based on merit. Now that the West’s system has for all intents and purposes become akin to the caste system in India, the West too is increasingly looking like India. But as I said, it wasn’t always so. France when I arrived as a kid fifty-two years ago was a great country and France today is a very different one. The cause: Jewish made entropy. France is a textbook example of how the “chosen” turn every country they run into a sh*thole.

  36. 迪路 says:
    @Passing by

    He should be an Indian.It makes no sense for you to talk to him. He will always be immersed in the world of India’s victory.
    Perhaps it is the cyber army of the fraudsters modi and yogi.
    Judging from his Posting time, he registered on this forum only recently.
    Even if you have many negative opinions about us, it doesn’t prevent us from looking down upon Indians together.

    • Replies: @Passing by
  37. 迪路 says:
    @farway

    I guess you are an Indian again.
    Wherever Indians go, they only bring latrines.

  38. @RJ Macready(Antarctica)

    Nine. One to change the bulb and eight others who were imported as H1bs to change bulbs but were hired because of nepotism by Genpac and stand around the guy changing the bulb drinking chai and surfing porn on their phones.

  39. Bama says:

    Indian promotion in the U.S. has not been by chance, but by Jewish design.

    Modi cannot be trusted and will cause China to support the Pakies.

  40. Notsofast says:
    @veryfast

    sez yet another butthurt mossad troll, with one comment and zero words of worth. sorry if i’m giving away your show, you creatures of darkness don’t like having the light of the truth focused on you. unfortunately for you, your rock has been overturn, better scurry back into the shadows, before you become a crispy critter.

  41. This isn’t a world war in the 1940s sense. It’s a networked war—one where militaries, media, malware, and monetary systems clash across time zones and platforms.

    But like in the 1940s, the warmongers are directing the conflict behind the scenes, encouraging the attacks, and providing all the profit-making war toys.

  42. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ed Case

    This still does not excuse their molestors.

    The age of consent in the UK is 16.
    Any adult male having sex with a girl under the age of 16 has committed a serious sexual offence, of which the UK law admits no defence or justification whatsoever.

    • Replies: @Ed Case
  43. @Chinchinchin

    If you had a shred of honesty, you would lookup yourself but here’s the top link returned by Qwant, the French search engine:

    https://theaviationist.com/2025/05/07/indian-rafale-shot-down-photos/

  44. @Skyler the Weird

    Ten, actually. One extra guy to take a sh*t in the street while everybody watches.

  45. The author worries too much about India in BRICS. Observations over the years reveal that India is mostly hot air. Both Russia and China already know how unreliable India is, and that is why it is not integral to either Russia or China’s plans. They only keep India engaged so that it does not fall into the US orbit.

    • Agree: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Malla
  46. @迪路

    Let’s say that there’s room for improvement between us. With regards to Indians, from my interaction with them, I have come to the observation that they are people ridden with complexes that cloud their judgment and lead them to overcompensate their feeling of inferiority with obnoxious passive-aggressive behaviour. And let’s say that I understand why the Chinese look down upon them.

    • Replies: @迪路
  47. Notsofast says:
    @cousin lucky

    i honestly think the iranians don’t need them. they have such a huge arsenal of hypersonic missiles, the nuclear issue, imo is a red herring that allows the zioneocon empire, a supposed casus belli for attacking iran.

    the u.s. has now been humiliated by the houthis and realize how badly they would be they would be humiliated and exposed by a confrontation with iran. this is why trump has become a “peacemaker” now, in order to save face and make “deals” to take advantage of situations such as ukraine and push around any remaining vassal states.

    https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/bombshell-nyt-report-reveals-invisible

  48. There something happening here, but what it is ain’t exactly clear..

    Is it just me or are we being increasingly gas lit these days on UR?

  49. This India-Israel nexus is indeed troubling, and India should be kicked out of BRICS for this grotesque alliance, or else the whole group will rot out from the inside. What Israel brings to the table — or, rather, under the table — with it’s “cooperation agreements” is the same thing Jews have always brought: deception, subversion from within. Those stupid frogs who dare let the Jews piggyback as “partners” will feel the scorpion’s sting soon enough.

    [MORE]

    With Israel infiltrating BRICS through India there is no chance that a multipolar order will emerge: the Jews are there to make sure that it doesn’t. And they do it with code, with spyware, and everything comes with backdoors, and anyone foolish enough to go sign a defense deal with Israel will end up merging with it, ideologically: that’s what’s happening between Zionism and Hindutva, both ethnonationalist cults built on myth, paranoia, and repression. Both pretend they’re victim-survivors of history, but in reality both are victimizers: Israel has Gaza; India has Kashmir.

    What’s worse, all this is happening inside BRICS, which was supposed to be the counterweight to the West. But it ain’t gonna happen with Israel in the mix.

    Gaza is like a testing ground for Israel: what they’re doing there they’ll export to their “partners” as the go-to model and everything becomes rebranded as “innovative defense solutions.”

    NSO’s Pegasus spyware was built using Palestinians as guinea pigs, and then sold to these stupid “partners” who wanted a Israeli-type of control. Mexico used it. India deployed it against journalists and dissenters. Even Brazil bought it, to our shame. They’ve made it a global commodity: everywhere you look, Israeli occupation policy has become global standard operating procedure.

    The brilliance of this system is its invisibility: you don’t need tanks when you control the cloud. You don’t need for troops when you’ve infected the firmware. You don’t need coups when your client-states willingly adopt your logic. It’s the Jew deception scheme, as always.

    Supposedly, BRICS was built to challenge the unipolar system. But one by one, its members are outsourcing sovereignty for “security.” They’re integrating their weapons system into the empire’s control mechanisma. A Russian-Israeli radar system here. An Israeli-Brazilian cybersecurity deal there. Chinese AI models trained on Western surveillance logic. By the time someone notices, BRICS will have become the system.

    India is the most egregious example, but it’s not alone. Brazil trains its police with Israeli techniques. South Africa imports surveillance gear. Russia, for all its bluster, tolerates Zionist economic penetration. And China (even China!) maintains ties with Israeli tech firms while knowing full well that the same firms have backdoors to Langley.

    Multipolarity is a farce: what we’re talking about here is Bretton Woods 2.0.

    The situation is terminal unless BRICS undergoes an extreme makeover. Forget “rebalancing” or “decoupling”: what BRICS needs is an exorcism. Here’s the non-negotiable checklist for geopolitical hygiene:

    1. Expel the Trojan States
    Any BRICS member actively cooperating with Zionist military or surveillance infrastructure is a liability. India, unless it severs ties with Tel Aviv, must be kicked out. You can’t build sovereignty with collaborators in your coalition.

    2. De-Zionize the Stack
    Ban all spyware and surveillance tech developed by or linked to Israel, the U.S., or Five Eyes. Reclaim digital infrastructure. Create sovereign clouds, national encryption standards, and independent telecom systems.

    3. Restore the Ethical Core
    A bloc that pretends to support Palestine while partnering with its exterminators has no soul. Make support for oppressed peoples like Palestinians, Kashmiris, Sahrawis a condition for membership. If you’re neutral on genocide, you’re not non-aligned. You’re complicit.

    4. End the Dollar’s Reign
    De-dollarization must become a top survival strategy and BRICS must adopt a real alternative: a trade currency backed by commodities, not U.S. Treasury debt. Stop funding your own chains.

    5. Refound BRICS as Popular Geopolitics
    BRICS cannot remain a bureaucratic plaything of comprador elites. It must open itself to civil society, technological patriots, and anti-imperialist networks. Make it a bloc of peoples, not just governments.

    Zionism is much more than a domestic Israeli ideology: it’s a full-blown global control system, via APIs. All you have to do to fall under their control is plug in.

    As long as BRICS keeps welcoming that plug, it will never be free, for it’s backend is full of rot: BRICS must go through a full decolonization, not only technological and ideological, but also spiritual. It all begins by naming the virus: Zionism. And if we don’t delete it, it will overwrite us all.

  50. India lost a war that it started, much like Pakistan in 1965. But you wouldn’t know it from listening to their lieing, duplicitous media. Shit eaters are all over Twitter chest thumping. Their media was telling them that the Karachi port had been destroyed and the Indian army was closing in on Islamabad lol. I suspect that, like Netanyahu, modi has learned he doesn’t really need to deliver any results. Who needs to win a war when you can just lie? Such is the imbecilic nature of the Israeli and Indian masses that they’re ready to believe any lie their government and media tell them. Kind of like the west about 20 years ago. Thankfully most people in the west are awake now to the kind of lies and gaslighting used against us, and the detrimental results that believing said lies has had. Hopefully the baby killers and shit eaters realize that soon enough too.

  51. Yababa says:

    Indians are a new breed of coolies who are even more submissive and obedient than our Anglo servants.

    We can make good use of them to choke the chinks.

    I bet you that Trump and Modi are preparing some surprises for China.

    One will be to prevent an alternative to Swift or to the Dollar within BRIC.

    Another will be to cut off China from Pakistan.

    Another will be to coordinate with our base in Diego Garcia with Indian navy to deny Chinese shipping through the Indian Ocean.

    Finally we need India to replace cheap goods the cheap goods from China. They may not yet be able to build iPhone but they sure can build toys, garments, MAGA hats, and other junkware currently imported from China.

    If India can conquer northern Pakistan, then it will reach Afghanistan, and therefore Central Asia, as well as kill CPEC.

    India needs to teach China a lesson, and with US military involvement the temporary setback with Pakistan will be reversed in time.

    India will not let go of this opportunity to both humble China and gain valuable territory in North Pakistan bordering both China and Afghanistan. Just as Russia humbled Europe and gained territory in Ukraine and developed its military, so will India.

    The US is fully behind India. We need to cooperate to choke the chinks and humble the ugly midgets with anal rape. Their anus facing Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Central Asia.

    Uyghurs will be easier to arm once India reaches into Central Asia, if that ever happens.

  52. 迪路 says:
    @Passing by

    Let me tell you a very funny story.
    A Chinese clerk was on a business trip to India. He checked into a hotel and every time he walked through the lobby, he would meet a waiter.
    This Chinese clerk would nod at him with a smile to show etiquette and even offer him some tips voluntarily.
    However, on the third day, when he met that waiter for the third time, that waiter wanted to rape him.
    Fortunately, all of this was stopped in time by the hotel manager. The hotel manager told him, “This waiter, being of a lower caste, is never treated kindly by others. When he sees you being kind to him, he thinks you are a male prostitute of a lower status than him, and that’s why he wants to rape you.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  53. anon[207] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinchinchin

    What will you do with that link? You freak. Do your searches on La Monde,Reuters,The National Interest, Washington Post, Is S-400 intact? Deccan Herald just reported 3 days ago ,India had sked for replacements. so all missiles gone or spent that India had to order now!
    @52 both India and Pakistan should be kicked out. Definitely India before Pakistan .Same is true for SCO.
    @50 Bashar assad betrayed his country and Iran and Gazan for false promises of sheckels from UAE Qatar Saudi . Picture would have looked different today .

  54. Pablo says:

    I’m wondering if and when Countries are going to ‘wise up’ to Israeli tactics. The Israelis don’t do anything for anybody without selfish ulterior motives. They want to get their claws into a Country and loot it. For whatever the Country they infest has of value. Israel is the last Country you want to help your Country.

  55. Corrupt says:
    @Anon

    Rubin huh? He wouldn’t have any reason to paint this as an Indian victory when India is being supported by jizzreal, would he?

  56. @cousin lucky

    Pakistan officially covered Iran with its own nuclear umbrella.
    So Pakistan must be defanged and neutralized before Iran can be obliterated.

    As Syria needed to be neutralized before Hamas and Hezbollah could be destroyed.

    Its all happening by a plan. and Russia is onboard with it, they will eventually sell out Iran, as they did Syria. thats my guess going by events and Russia’s very close collaboration with Israel.

    oh well what will be will be.

  57. rgl says:
    @Anon

    The US has backed itself into a credibility corner. Personally, I am at the point where I simply dismiss anything out of official Washington as BS.

    Wars started on lies. Government agencies whose purpose, in the main, is to lie. They are simply not believable.

  58. @Fin of a cobra

    The “I” in BRICS should stand for Iran and Indonesia. Who needs India any more? Anyway, as the group keeps expanding they should change this name based on the first five members.

  59. @Passing by

    The browning of the West is a downward spiral taking these countries to shithole status. The only question is how low will they sink, and stink.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  60. Anon[360] • Disclaimer says:

    In recent days, the Line of Control in Kashmir lit up again with shelling and drone activity. According to Reuters,

    India and Pakistan fighting for Kashmir is like John Holmes and Ron Jeremy fighting for a size small condom.

    I however, fully support the conflict. I think all Pajeets and Pakis should return to their respective countries and fight. Hopefully, they will nuke each other. The real problem with these countries is that they have too many people.

    But wait, what will happen to Silicon Valley without all those straight haired oily darkies? What about all the gas stations and convenience stores ? I guess the West will fall apart without them.
    Oh, I forgot, did Donna Strump not call the Paki Pres and order him to cease and desist ? I guess he will have to call again and WIN WIN WIN with the ME ME ME.

    One other point. Some idiot on Unz said that 240M Pakis defeated 1.4B Pajeets while Bin Tin Tin waxed about the “integration” of the Chinese supplied Paki Air Farts. How come then India is now “preparing” for war. I thought they had been defeated.

    As The World Turns so do my stomach and bowels. Initially, this is as ludicrous as kids fighting for a McDonald toy in the sandbox. Now its highly entertaining.

    Its the Keystone Kops playing with nukes. LOL ! And the sheer stupidity has teleported from Pajeet Land to Unz commenters and writers. The bullshit is so deep you need hip waders to cope.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  61. chris says:
    @Notsofast

    Great points, nsf!

    The only thing not covered in this article is the fact that the last Pakistan prime minister, Imran Kahn is in jail after being overthrown in a US coup for having been neutral toward Russia at the start of the Ukraine war.

    That fact and fact that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons control is being closely monitored, hands on by the US at the bequest of Israel means that the current government there is yet another US proxy, performing its kabuki theatre act, aiming to distract the world attention from the next Israeli slaughter about to commence in Gaza; or Iran.

    See this and other articles there
    https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/13/pakistans-russiagate-elections-imran-khan-and-the-rational-villains-the-west-loves-to-hate/

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  62. @Fin of a cobra

    All of this is hot air, people like you who write out all this stuff would be better off explaining it to the very people who RUN BRICS. What’s the point in writing any of this to tell it to us for? Seems like to me the members of Brics aren’t smart, they’re all idiots and morons.

  63. @Anon

    How come then India is now “preparing” for war. I thought they had been defeated.

    There’s always the next war, whether you win or lose the last one.

  64. As a Jew I know our Jewish history, jewish secret teachings to the children starting from 5 years old till they become IDF soldiers, foreign diplomats, but most lethally powerful specialists in Mossad’s diabolical soldiers penetrated in every country of the world. After establishing our Zionist feet in the USA till we took total control of any and everything of America, we simultaneously penetrated in EU, the 5-eyes countries, Asian countries, African countries, Australia and the rest with an enviable and unchallenged precision and speed! Today Israel Mossad has its tentacles in every country on earth. Addressing the issue of India and Pakistan, Israeli national and military ideology is based on Israel’s uber Zionist founder David Ben Gurion whose following statement speaks volumes about Israel’s “By Deception Thou Shalt Make Wars” ideology and said

    “The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan must be its first target, for this ideological state is a threat to our existence. The Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. This love of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the whole Arabs themselves. . For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan. Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.”.
    David Ben Gurion, the founding father and the first Prime Minister of Israel. These words are printed in the Jewish Chronicle, 9th. August 1967.

  65. @Anon

    ex-Pentagon official Michael Rubin:

    Some universal truths Anon: fish swim, birds fly, jews lie.

    • Agree: cry baby white man
  66. @Xavier

    In all fairness, Rafale would be a strong match against J-10C in a head-to-head dog fight. At $240 million, it is even for more expensive than F-35.

    Then, how did the Indian air force suffer such a humiliating one-sided loss against a much smaller Pakistan air force?

    The answer lies in the strength of the integrated Chinese weapon system used by Pakistan.

    The author Rose Pinochet does not paint the full picture.
    The Indian pilots assumed that the Pakistani planes had missiles and radar that was limited to some 180 kms but the Pakistanis had a Radar Plane spotting them from a much longer range and in addition the Pakistanis war planes had longer range and newer missiles.

    • Replies: @Xavier
  67. Ed Case says:
    @Anonymous

    This still does not excuse their molestors.

    No one says it does, just that stupidity can’t be legislated against.
    On the Age of Consent, it was Menarche in Europe for hundreds of years, then the London Papers of the 1890s got their dopey readers in a tizzy over 13 year old sluts traveling to the brothels of Paris to make their fortunes, and Age of Consent laws were made for the first time.
    Which lead to the Rotherham Scandal, since underage victims who themselves have been convicted of Underage Sex won’t be taken up by the Prosecution Service since a Court may ruletheir Evidence to be worthless [since they’ve already been convicted in a Childrens Court].

  68. @Chinchinchin

    i heard bindus make 2rupees a comment on social media as a result theres millions of bindus infesting the internet with lies and untruths against china pakistan your media is a cesspool of bindus spreading propaganda to the billions of bindus

    • Replies: @ghali
  69. @Chinchinchin

    take your rupiah per comment and go away weak coward bindu

  70. Notsofast says:
    @chris

    The only thing not covered in this article is the fact that the last Pakistan prime minister, Imran Kahn is in jail after being overthrown in a US coup for having been neutral toward Russia at the start of the Ukraine war.

    they also tried to assassinate him as well, these are all signs of the demise of u.s. power and influence. in the end, this shows their desperation and explains the bizarre nature of our “foreign policy”. the u.s. is zigging and zagging like an aircraft carrier, trying to avoid hypersonic missiles, while dropping fighters off the fight deck as they run.

    modi seems to be choosing to walk in our staggering footsteps, rather than embrace the new path forward, being blazed by china and russia. sad for the people of india and sad for the world, hopefully they won’t upset the brics applecart.

    • Replies: @chris
  71. Notsofast says:
    @Chinchinchin

    your patriotic fervor and hatred of the chinese has blinded you, as this article is written by rose pinochet, not hua bin. your comment was written in haste, without checking facts.

  72. chris says:
    @Notsofast

    Very funny way of putting it, nsf! Yeah, our “foreign policy” is like a zigzagging aircraft carrier dodging Houti hypersonic missiles.

    Still, the India-Pakistan conflict seems to be going according to plan. The giant distraction from the next stage of the greater Israel project.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  73. @Yababa

    there goes the jew again, bring in ass rape out of nowhere. what is it with you guys, are all of you closeted homosexuals or what?

    • Replies: @Yababa
  74. @Yababa

    fighting the entity will only prolong everyone’s suffering

  75. @Tennessee Jed

    little White British school girls will no longer get kidnapped, raped and murdered

    they will, by white men like you. Drop a nuke on yourself if you’re so concerned with the safety of the little girl scouts.

    • Thanks: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Tennessee Jed
    , @Ed Case
  76. Malla says:
    @Notsofast

    i wouldn’t be surprised if the “terrorist attact”, wasn’t a false flag, staged by the same people that brought you “isis”.

    This is impossible , because Modi had far more to loose than gain from the terrorist incident. Modi had declared Kashmir as safe for investment and tourism and settlement of people from the rest of the country. He had guaranteed the safety in Kashmir. But the terrorist incident had made him look like a fool infront of the entire nation.
    Secondly after Article 370 was abrogated, Kashmir became a Union Territory and does not have a normal State system. Had it been a state, such a issue would have been primarily a State Police security failure and the main blame would have fallen on the State Government. But Since Kashmir was made a Union Territory, it’s security now comes under the Central Government in New Delhi, the Home Ministry, Mr. Amit Shah, Modi’s right hand man. Now the blame for the security lapse has fallen directly on the Home Ministry because there is no State Government to put the blame on.
    This is put both Modi and his right hand man Shah in a very difficult position.
    So the chance of this being a false flag is less than zero.

    Pakistani has a long and illustrious history of carrying our terrorist activities against its powerful neighbour and then denying it. When the Bombay terrorist attacks took place where Islamic fundamentalist terrorists from Pakistan started spraying bullets at hapless people, one of the terrorist Ajmal Kasab was apprehended by Indian authorities. Pakistan chimped out that the terrorist dude Kasab was not Pakistani, they claimed the Bombay attack was an “inside job” by India. Only for one of the most reputed Pakistani newspaper, the Dawn actually tracking down Ajmal Kasab’s house and family in Pakistan. Of course, he was Pakistani.
    Not only that, Pakistan still harbours a mafia don turned terrorist who was responsible for a number of bomb blasts in Bombay, before the above terrorist incident, directed by Pakistan’s secret service agency, the ISI. Tiger Memon and Dawood Ibrahim, both Indian Muslims responsible for the death of many Indians via bomb explosions in Bombay. Both are living good lives in Pakistan, protected by the Pakistani Government. And there are many such more examples. So yeah, India should not suspect Pakistan for terrorist incidents in India. ya rite.

    The group whcih had claimed the terrorist attack, The Resistance Front is an outcrop of an Islamist terror organisation Lashkar-e-Taiba, supported by the Pakistani secret service ISI. This organisation Lashkar-e-Taiba has been declared a terrorist organisation even by the United Nations.
    The reason, why these Islamists are opening offshoots using Anglo type names like “The Resistance Front”, is because now they want to become popular to a wider audience beyond the Islamic World. The terror organisation is the same, but with a Anglo name as names like Lashkar Taiba etc…will not sell well outside the Islamic World, especially in the West. A new trick but from the same old bottle.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Anonymous
    , @anon
  77. Xavier says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    I don’t think you meant to respond to me.

  78. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @迪路

    However, on the third day, when he met that waiter for the third time, that waiter wanted to rape him.

    How could he have done that? Indians have much smaller penis to be able to do that in a violent situation. The reason behind large population of India, according to scientists, they say it is difficult to find condom their size. They need XXsmall, which is tiny to work with. That’s why they cannot have population control.

    Smaller condoms are no joke in India
    A two-year study conducted by the Indian Council on Medical Research has concluded that Indian men just don’t measure up. According to the study, 60 percent of Indian men have penises that are smaller than the international average. Three to five centimeters smaller, in fact.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2006/12/11/smaller-condoms-are-no-joke-in-india/

    • Replies: @迪路
  79. Pythas says:
    @Tennessee Jed

    Your also including the kikes as well I hope…

    • Replies: @Tennessee Jed
  80. Pythas says:
    @RJ Macready(Antarctica)

    No it was actually invented by a sand-nigger kike riding on a camel in the sinai! “Come on man” get your history right. Jeeezzz.

  81. Pythas says:
    @Looger

    Hey Looger fuck-off you racist pig and go fuck your mother scum. That’s some of my old New Yorkese. Like I’ve said my fellow UNZers steal their language and redefine them and start LABELLING them racists primitive tribal shit and anti white European bigoted hating scum, parasitic filth. Start calling the jew kike a racists supremist asiatic genocidal murdering scum and financial fraudster criminals (remember bernie madoff anyone?) along with the niggers (especially them) and sand-nigger arab shit. Since the kike was the originator of LABELLING Western men as this, that and the other thing, so now do the same to them, LABEL them with what they have been doing for centuries. Fight fire with fire. Its really is that simple. Also that little penis piano playing prick the PPPP dunce zelinsky in ukraine and his thieving kike cohorts are billionaires! You believe that for scum with no talent whatsoever except thievery. And of course the anglo-zio scum in amerimutt land and that red-coat shithole island will protect their racketeering criminals in arms because the truth is they are nothing more then primitive shit cavemen and cavewomen in modern cloths, that’s all…

  82. Notsofast says:
    @Malla

    i don’t think you understand what i’m saying. i meant an israeli false flag, designed to stir up trouble and forcing india and pakistan into a confrontation. a classic, why don’t you and him go fight. they can then offer modi their services to ingratiate themselves and integrate their military and spy services to an even greater extent.

    the israelis hate pakistan, as they are the only muslim state with a nuke, and they support the palestinians. they want to completely genocide the people of gaza and “finish them”, as trump so eloquently put it. this potential clash of nuclear titans is going to dominate the media, allowing the israelis to evade media coverage of their heinous acts of genocidal mass murder.

    before you discount this, realize this is exactly what has happened to the u.s. from 9/11 on. we have been in an unbroken chain of of wars ever since murdering millions of innocent people for the benefit of only israel. we have spent trillions of dollars of our future taxes, in unbridled deficit spending on military adventurism, that has destroyed our civil rights and liberties and burdened us, with an unpayable debt, bankrupting the nation in 25 years time.

    everything i described in the first paragraph is exactly what has happened to us, it is the israeli standard operating procedure. these people are not your friends, they’re not our friends, they aren’t anyone’s friends except their own, once they befriend you, they see you as a sucker, an animal to be used in their service.

    let this country serve as a warning to any country “befriending” them. this mighty empire has been destroyed in a mere quarter century, i have seen it with my own eyes, screaming about it every step of the way. i was hoping the indian people were smarter than this and i honestly feel sorry for them, knowing what path they are on. india has such incredible potential, it would be a shame to see it destroyed, as our once bright future was destroyed by zionism, that is jewish supremacism.

    this is exactly the the reason the future belongs to russia and china, they know all about these “rootless cosmopolitans”, after having their countries destroyed, india would be wise to follow them, rather then follow the western world to its doom.

  83. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    There is no browning of the west . You whites don’t belong on the Americas . We should build a wall around Europe and stop all trade with these dusty wretches

    • Replies: @Obama llama
  84. @cry baby white man

    Why would you assume I’m a White man? Obviously, you’re a racist.

  85. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Lol this is straight Hindu Hasbara account .

  86. @Pythas

    Of course, that goes without saying.

  87. ghali says:
    @kicktheroos

    I agree wholeheartedly. Hindus are employing the same propaganda (Hasbara) and violence used by Jews in Palestine.

  88. @Ed Case

    So, young girls you deem to be “sluts” deserve to be kidnapped, raped and murdered. Because it will happen sooner or later. If you have a wife, I feel sorry for her. If you have daughters, I’ll pray for them.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  89. @Notsofast

    I don’t know about Russia, China maybe. But Putin was too chicken shit to let Syria defend itself against them. And he allowed them to even attack his country when Biden was President. Because it was they who were the ones giving the order to lob missiles right at his country and he did nothing. Granted everything “THEY” do makes the U.S. look severely bad. And all those wars you mentioned should have damaged the U.S. image long before this whole Genocide situation exposed them all. I’m surprised countries like Japan are still allies with the United States.

    There was even a comment on one of these articles about how the rats are even planning to use India just to infiltrate Brics so they can break all of that up. I mean would Putin object to them joining Brics? I don’t think he would. He come off as the type of person that would outright let the rats sabotage everything.

    • Agree: David Parker
    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  90. @Tennessee Jed

    Best case scenario they nuke each other into oblivion.

    https://basedunderground.com/2025/05/10/in-2019-study-warned-that-nuclear-war-between-india-and-pakistan-in-2025-could-potentially-kill-125-million-cause-mass-starvation-worldwide/

    Then perhaps someday a White American might be able to own a 7-11.

    If whites are not able to own 7-11’s it’s because white bankers and political bureaucrats gave indians U.S. taxpayer funded indians only ‘loans’ with interest rates so ridiculously low, and ‘repayment terms’ so loose, that it was practically free money.

    Meanwhile American ‘Mom & Pop’ were given highly predatory loans or a monetary middle finger from the banks and tons of red tape when trying to open up a business.

    • Replies: @Tennessee Jed
  91. @Skyler the Weird

    Nine. One to change the bulb and eight others who were imported as H1bs to change bulbs but were hired because of nepotism by Genpac and stand around the guy changing the bulb drinking chai and surfing porn on their phones.

    Virtually the gospel truth. The only thing I would add is that before they can practice nepotism, they first have to get hired into American corporations and the idiots who started hiring them were White American managers and executives. Then the nepotism began not long after.

    And now that the tech industry is in the toilet along with the rest of the economy, no telling how many American workers who out of sheer desperation, are getting roped into identity and resume experience theft by Indian recruiters with fake jobs.

    • Agree: NobodyImportant
  92. @Anonymous

    There are no “judeo Christian values.”
    Christianity is defined first and foremost as acknowledging that Jesus is indeed the Christ, Messiah, very God and very man, which the Jews emphatically deny to their own destruction. That terminology of “judeo Christian” tradition, values, civilization, etc., was invented in the 1950s. It does not in any way express fact. Christians existed from creation as Eve trusted the Redeemer God promised her would be born of her progeny for salvation from the punishment due for disobedience. Most likely both Adam and Eve are the first Christians.
    Jews and Christians have nothing in common. The Christian sees clearly that murder, sexual deviancy, bearing false witness (lying,) covetousness are clearly prohibited by God’s fundamental law – The Ten Commandments – yet these are trademarks of the Jews. Christians hold that all people are created in the image and likeness of God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost – while the Jews convince each other that only they are mankind and all others are mere hulks to be exploited, used, robbed, deceived, or killed at the whim of the Jew with no offense committed. “Rapture freaks” who have been deceived by the last hundred fifty years of premillenial dispensationalism largely fomented by the Scofield Reference Bible with footnotes ghost written by Jews and consumed by gullible hayseed “Christians” looking forward to Jesus lifting them out of their mortgages into a celestial welfare program with free housing, actually believe the fake Israel of today was reestablished by God and must be preserved. They are completely ignorant of the fact that in A.D.70 God destroyed the real Israel and Jerusalem and the temple, some 37 years after the Jews forced the crucifixion of Jesus the Christ, lamb of God. They never once consider how it is that people Jesus exposed as “children of their father the devil” could get away with such a crime as crucifying a man the Jews not only knew to be innocent, but the very one who met all the conditions the prophets foretold would identify the long awaited Messiah. The hayseed rapture freaks are totally ignorant of the Great Commission of Matthew 28:18-20 and the fact that the Christian Church is God’s chosen people to evangelize the world with the good news that Jesus is the Redeemer of God’s elect from the eternal wrath of God the Father.
    So it is, by their concerted actions of today that the Jews reveal they are indeed children of the devil, just as were their spiritual forefathers 2,000 years ago.
    Rather that continue sending unlimited cash and weapons to Israel, Christians should be petitioning the US central government to immediately nuke the Dimona nuclear arsenal to defang the poisonous terrorist “Isreal” and send the US military to defend the people of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank of Jordan.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  93. @Notsofast

    Russian is also run by Jew oligarchs. That is Putin’s major problem, other than maybe a case of cold feet. I agree refusing to allow Syria to use the S-200 and later S-300 to shoot down the arrogant Israeli Air Force that attacked Syria practically around the clock with complete impunity was an absolute disgrace. ‘
    If only … .
    If only the IAF was blasted out of the sky, especially after one of their missions to deliberately target a Russian patrol plane killing all 12 crew members. Putin let the Jews off the hook, his reward to the world unknowable more dead from the headchoppers the Jews recruited long ago to destroy all the Christians in Iraq, Syria, and Libya and now the Alawites.
    Thanks a lot Vladimir.

    • Agree: TitusAlone
    • Replies: @Notsofast
    , @Poupon Marx
  94. This article is fine prose.

    Seldom is anything in, say, The Wall Street Journal written so well.

  95. Modi is a Hindu Nazi, but a talentless one. What better target for that great patron of goy insufficiency, the Jewintern. I’d bet a pretty penny that Pahalgam was a false flag, perhaps even carried out by the MOSSAD itself.

    • Replies: @Malla
  96. @David Parker

    I’d differ in emphasising that the barbaric inhumanity is of JUDAISM, and many Jews, (the first victims of Judaism), but NOT ALL Jews. Many Jews actively oppose Zionazi bestiality, the so-called ‘self-haters’, and a growing number no longer unquestioningly support the Judenreich.
    Hating ALL Jews because they were born into the cult, with no consideration given to their actual character and behaviour, is Judaic in nature, and, if not that make-believe fiction, ‘antisemitism’, is definitely Judeophobia.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  97. @Passing by

    Vertical social mobility….in the West-for THIRTY years, after WWII. Then the ruling parasites grew tired of it, and feared its consequences, so it was ended.

  98. Ed Case says:
    @cry baby white man

    Not seeing any Black [African] category in your chart.
    What’s the story there?

  99. Yababa says:
    @Notsofast

    Someone’s gonna show up one of these days and perform a terro rororist attact on your roar end whole that so uncontrollably and not so fast sprays and attacts this site with putrefacted chemical gas weapons of Mars destruction you terro rear o risk

    • Replies: @Unbornawakened
    , @Notsofast
  100. @ServesyouallWhite

    White bankers and political bureaucrats? I believe it’s more like Jew bankers and Jew-controlled political bureaucrats.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
    • Replies: @ServesyouallWhite
  101. @Notsofast

    So India is a convenient Israeli proxy against Pakistan (and possibly China). How convenient.

    • Agree: Notsofast
  102. @Tennessee Jed

    Well, if all those Muslim didn’t rape all those women, some Scotsman would have done it.

  103. @mulga mumblebrain

    You know Jewish logic: if some Jew hadn’t bought that Palestinian’s house for a pittance after some duress, if that Jew hadn’t bulldozed that Palestinian house, if those Israelis hadn’t tortured and anally raped those Palestinians, if those Jews hadn’t genocide those Gazans, if … then some Scotsman would have done it.

    • Agree: John Trout
  104. Yababa says:
    @cry baby white man

    Rape is humiliating.

    Anal variety is more painful.

    Finally, both ugly male and females cam get this humbling treatment.

    Equality of the sexes.

    That’s what it boils down to.

    • Replies: @John Trout
  105. Malla says:
    @littlereddot

    Observations over the years reveal that India is mostly hot air.

    How so?

    Both Russia and China already know how unreliable India is, and that is why it is not integral to either Russia or China’s plans.

    How so?

    ed so that it does not fall into the US orbit.

    India will go into the US. Orbit, as a partner, if it is in India’s interest to go into the U.S. Orbit. It is really sad for China that India does not put China’s interest above its own and act like a good tributary state, but India has to let the childish Chinese deal with it. No other option.

    • Replies: @littlereddot
  106. Malla says:
    @Yababa

    Indians are a new breed of coolies who are even more submissive and obedient than our Anglo servants.

    Indians are such good coolies that when the West ordered India to put sanctions on Russia, India showed the Western “massa” a big middle finger. Ya rite.

    I bet you that Trump and Modi are preparing some surprises for China.

    Very doubtful. However, if they both do so why would that be surprising. What is surprising in working against a common enemy?

    One will be to prevent an alternative to Swift or to the Dollar within BRIC.

    But India itself supports the idea of de-dollarisation in the long term.

    India needs to teach China a lesson

    India wishes to teach China a lesson, but not for the West, but for itself. If the West benefits or not is not of India’s concern.

    If India can conquer northern Pakistan,

    India has no interest in conquering any part of Pakistan, because Pakistan is a shithole full of retarded Muslims who keep in blowing up stuff. Why would any sensible country want those retards inside their border? All India wants is to take back Indian territory, the part of Kashmir, occupied by Pakistan and Aksai Chin, occupied by China. Which by Indian law belongs to the Republic of India and is now occupied by foreign countries.

  107. Malla says:
    @Notsofast

    i meant an israeli false flag, designed to stir up trouble and forcing india and pakistan into a confrontation.

    Hmmm, I never thought of that. This is possible. But far from certain.

    the israelis hate pakistan, as they are the only muslim state with a nuke, and they support the palestinians. they want to completely genocide the people of gaza and “finish them”

    Very true. Israel looks at Pakistan as a big threat, along with Iran. Pakistan is the only Islamic country with nukes. Also, Pakistan is the only country in that region created based on religion, just like Israel, only that the Israeli religion is tribal. It is definitely in Israel’s interest to have pakistan denuclearised. USA dies what it does only for israel. That is 100% correct.
    I agree, but getting rid of Pakistan’s nuke is in Israeli interests as well as India’s interest for different reasons. By going nuclear, India shot itself in the foot. India was “why do only Whites and Yellows have nukes, why can’t the brown man have nukes too?” One Indian scientist who had worked with the bomb, openly said that on BBC Hardtalk. That “only Whites and Yellows have nukes or nuke cover, why should not the Brown man?” If you can contact BBC, you can get the exact episode.
    But the problem was that India got nukes, Pakistan would get nukes by hook or crook and with Pakistan getting nukes, India’s conventional superiority got equalized. Now they want to “correct that mistake”, by trying to denuclearise Pakistan.
    But my point is that, it is in both Israel’s and India’s interest to denuclearise Pakistan, How they will achieve it and in trying to achieve it lead to a chain of events leading to a bigger screw up, which is very likely, needs to be seen.

    these people are not your friends,

    Agreed, but Hindus (and Jains and Sikhs and even Indian Christians) do not understand this. They all worship Israel, they all worship Joo. Only Indian Muslims understand, because of warning about these people in their books.

    i was hoping the indian people were smarter

    No, we are not, as far as this subject is concerned.

    i honestly feel sorry for them, knowing what path they are on

    You honestly should.

    india would be wise to follow them, rather then follow the western world to its doom.

    Indians have no problem with Russia and looks at Russia as a great friend. But Indians DO NOT TRUST China.

  108. Malla says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Retard Mulgoid at it again. Modi’s administration has very little in common with National Socialist Germany. Modi is ideologically not a National Socialist.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  109. @Yababa

    Come on, he is an old man worthy of respect, even though he might not be as fast or as sharp as most here. His screen name shouts it out loud and clear:

    “I am not so fast please don’t be so hard on me, I have aged and mentally not so fast as I used to be”

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  110. @Malla

    Observations over the years reveal that India is mostly hot air.

    How so?

    Commonwealth Games hosting fiasco, Make In India, Tejas fighter jet.

    Both Russia and China already know how unreliable India is, and that is why it is not integral to either Russia or China’s plans.

    How so?

    My statement is pretty self explanatory. India is an expendable appendage in their plans.

    India will go into the US. Orbit, as a partner, if it is in India’s interest to go into the U.S. Orbit.

    Of course. That is why the Russians dangle just enough in front of India to keep it from doing so.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Commentator Mike
  111. Notsofast says:
    @David Parker

    there’s more to it than you are accounting for. putin inherited a russian federation that was totally infested with western leaning oligarchs. imo he took the right tack in telling them, if they kept out of politics, they could keep their ill-gotten gains. this immediately identified the worst oligarchs, that attempted to fight back to keep their control of the government. he dealt with them in no uncertain terms, in some cases jailing them and even assassinating them.

    many of the dual citizens took off, with their assets, these he refers to as the “rootless cosmopolitans”. there are millions of russians living in israel that are dual citizens, that have vast somes of wealth at their disposal and can cause problems within the russian federation with their ratfuckery.

    notice the russian federation outlawed dual citizens holding government positions, trying to remove these moles from the government. imagine if the u.s. did that, what do you think would happen? so obviously these zionists have far more pull in the u.s. and notice how these zioneocons in the u.s. have attacked russia, especially after putin went in to syria.

    this is when the cookie monster and songbird mccain had their block party on the maidan, building their ukranazi banderites into the second strongest army in zato. vvp has attempted to use as diplomatican approach, as possible knowing the u.s. wants a direct confrontation with their zato vasssls, in order the destroy russia economically, to bring about regime change and get back into russia to completely balkanize it and loot it again.

    both the russians and iranians left syria, for two reasons, first the u.s. was trying to tie them both up with a new proxy war and the intransigence of assad, refusing to let the iranians and russians create a syrian arab army that could defend itself. had been misled into thinking the west would take him back if he played ball. he had a people that didn’t like him and an army that wouldn’t fight for him, it’s sad for the syrian people but completely understandable from the russian and iranian perspective.

    realize that we are in an economic world war and the west is losing badly. putin is going to continue all diplomatic efforts, as seem in istanbul, knowing they can continue as long as necessary, to achieve the objectives of the s.m.o. and inflict more and more economic pain and damage on the western nations, attacking them through their ukranazi proxies and terrorist groups.

    the russians have been clear about their desire for a two state solution and are totally aligned with the chinese and iranians, this would mean the death of the greater esatz israel project, destroying their dark zionist vision.

    • Agree: Bruce Arney, Poupon Marx
    • Replies: @Poupon Marx
  112. 迪路 says:
    @Anonymous

    The size of the genitals has no direct relationship with whether one loves rape or not.
    Indians are a race that can rape even lizards.

  113. Malla says:
    @littlereddot

    Commonwealth Games hosting fiasco, Make In India, Tejas fighter jet.

    That is it?

    My statement is pretty self explanatory

    I was asking about the charge of unreliability.

    Of course. That is why the Russians dangle just enough in front of India to keep it from doing so.

    Nope, nothing of the sort. When I meant U.S. orbit, I meant some kind of strategic partnership, if it benefits India, since we face a threat from China, India should. However, India will never sacrifice its relations with Russia for it, and we have made it clear to the Americans, and the Americans sadly realize, that this is true. We do not need carrots for this, we do this taking our strategic needs in mind as well as past historical relations.

    • Replies: @littlereddot
  114. Malla says:
    @ghali

    but are there leaders who align more closely with fascist ideologies than Modi

    How is Modi a fascist actually??? Throwing around the term “fascist”, without understanding the definition, will dilute the impact of the term.

    • Agree: Owlistic
    • Replies: @迪路
    , @ghali
  115. @littlereddot

    US could never replace what India gets from Russia. For starters, the S-400. Imagine if they replaced those with US Patriots – Pakistanis would bomb everything with ease like Houthis bomb Ben Gurion airport and other Israeli targets. India’s most reliable planes are the Russian Sukhois. Then the US would replace the Russian oil like it replaced Russia’s gas to Europe – at exorbitant prices. Could India afford all that?

    I think China and Russia must remain steadfast partners but in the subcontinent they will continue to support the bitter enemies, China Pakistan, Russia India. US is kind of friendly with both Pakistan and India.

    • Agree: littlereddot
  116. @Yababa

    A sick display of jewish logic. How about not raping, asshole.

    • Replies: @Yababa
  117. Notsofast says:
    @Unbornawakened

    yeah and you’re an unawaken abortion. stupid fucking mossad manure spreaders. 🖕🇮🇱🌈🤡

  118. Notsofast says:
    @Yababa

    drunken fucking mossad moron, layoff the mad dog 2020. your unintelligent, unintelligible zionist gibberish, shows your facination with other people’s roar ends and your obsession with anal sex. typical corn hole, israeli alcoholic queer. 🖕🇮🇱🌈🤡🥴

  119. That is it?

    They are emblematic.

    I was asking about the charge of unreliability.

    Actually, you described it quite well:

    India will go into the US. Orbit, as a partner, if it is in India’s interest to go into the U.S. Orbit.

    Nope, nothing of the sort. When I meant U.S. orbit, I meant some kind of strategic partnership, if it benefits India, since we face a threat from China, India should.

    And when it goes into US orbit, it would sell out all the other BRICS nations, particularly Russia.

    This is what I mean by unreliable.

    A reliable partner would have its spat with China, but not sell out the rest, just to stick it to the Chinese.

    • Agree: Xavier, vox4non
    • Replies: @vox4non
  120. @Сергей Гончаров

    In the brave new world of AI, the human factor will be a liability.

  121. Netanyahu recently proclaimed that the Talmud is the law of Israel. The Talmud has been the book of the Jews since Rabbinical Judaism became the faith of the Jews after the 2nd Temple was destroyed.
    The laws of the Talmud are those of the Pharisees, which create two sets of values. They were rejected by Christ.

    In the eyes of the Talmud, Christianity is a Pariah faith, and Christ is burning in hell. If that is how Christianity is seen, then Hinduism is of a much lower order. The fate of India and its entrenched poverty was a result of the British Empire and the Jewish bankers who controlled it.

    The fate of America and Israel is being determined by a nation that follows the Talmud. In both cases secession is the only hope. Modi’s Gujarati style Hindu Nationalism is based on the language of the RSS founder Madhav S. Gowalwalka which is far worse than anything the German National Socialists ever wrote: This language is alien to Dharma, which is based on the codes of Honor, Ethics, Duty and high morals, and more akin to the intolerance of the Torah and the Talmud

    “There are only 3 courses open to foreign elements: merge with the National race and adopt its culture, or to live at its mercy as the national race permits it, or quit the country at the will of the national race. That is the only sound view and logical solution for the minorities.

    That alone keeps the national life healthy and undisturbed… the foreign races in Hinduism must either adopt to the Hindu culture, hold in reverence the Hindu religion, must entertain no idea, but those of the glorification of Hinduism.

    The Hindu nation must lose their separate existence to merge into the Hindu race, wholly subordinate to the Hindu nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges or preferential treatment, not even citizens’ rights”

    On the other side of the planet, American Nationalism is fueled by Christian Zionism, which is an oxymoron since Rabbinical Judaism is a sworn enemy of Christianity. Christians are spat on in Israel and that act is defended by Rabbis. Zionism adds a level of national zealotry to a faith that naturally sees Christ as an abomination. Both these nations are under the grip of abhorrent nationalist movements influenced by Talmudic thought

  122. There is no way that New Delhi can prepare the Indian population against attacks upon it. It is the most disorganized mega population the world has ever seen. Besides the fact that India’s population of 1 billion 500 million exceeds the combined population of the Americas, from Argentina to Alaska, by 400 million, just the state of Uttar Pradesh has a population of 250 million, and it sits at the border with China.

    China will not sit idly and see India defeat Pakistan. In a hypothetical situation, Chinese missiles launched from Tibet would reach Uttar Pradesh in 15 minutes or less, while Indian missiles would need to cross Tibet just to hit sparsely populated Western China. For Indian missiles to reach the populated regions of China in a short time would require a naval force.

    In addition to that, China has influence over the Maoists, who control 11 Indian states at various levels. It is called “The Red Corridor” and they are a heavily armed militia whose objective is to overthrow the Indian government, and are unlike the militant secessionist groups.

    They emerged as the Naxals, named after a Bengali village called Naxalbari, as a response to extreme poverty and hunger. They evolved into the Maoists, getting support from China in the mid-20th century.

  123. @Chinchinchin

    A former Pentagon Official, stated :-“Pakistan ran away with its tail between its legs

    Well I guess that settles it eh? Peddle your BS elsewhere please.

    👎 🇮🇱 👎

  124. anon[973] • Disclaimer says:
    @Malla

    Modi lies.He says many things But he never redirects his gaze from the winning he election .Indian Hindus in the cowbelt have been throughly rancified with cowdung butter . He talks of democracy, he talks of Ashoka .He then goes on looking for next muslim to be slaughtered in case that brings him anotehr million votes at the next hustings . India’s abysmal infrastructure does not attract anyone to come and invest. Some will do . Mdo then will brag about it . He is a pathetic hateful man who should have been arrested by Advani as Bajapyee asked Advani to .Advani did not and he lost the leadership struggle to this murderer thug guy who once held Advani’s microphone at the rallies. It seems the current Syrian leader is the live reincarnation of Modi.

  125. @Tennessee Jed

    I believe it’s more like Jew bankers and Jew-controlled political bureaucrats.

    The most notorious sub-group of Jews are actually white, the entire ‘kikes are khazars’ storyline is just a copout as goy whites do not want to face the stark fact that many of the most powerful enemies to 99%’er goy whites are other goy whites.

    Ironically similar to how the worst enemy of blacks (in everyday black life) is actually another black.

    • Agree: Yababa
  126. Miville says:
    @Passing by

    France is traditionally a country as opposed to social mobility as India. Traditionally they are less racist than other countries because they think most important biological differences are between classes and professional castes, not nations. The situation in France after WWII was an anomaly and even then social mobility consisted only in a great replacement of the elites that has been traditionally antisemitic (even the Jews of old installation themselves) and therefore pro-German during WWII, and needed be disposed of in retribution for their wrong political choice by more vulgar people from the lower ranks, preferably of recent immigration from Italy or Poland, and of course by Jews of much more vulgar type from Eastern Europe or North Africa. When upward social mobility started becoming an acceptable concept during the 1930’s most elite people of finer intelligence concluded, like René Guénon, that the soul of France had died for all practical purposes and that the best thing to do for honest people was to go where social mobility was still condemned, in general Asian countries. Once the Jewish go-getters from Eastern Europe and North Africa had conquered all positions of decisions it was judged (that happened when the left has conquered the political power at last from 1981 onwards) that social mobility had lived its useful purpose and had to stop, as has happened wherever Marxists of any kind have taken power.

    • Thanks: littlereddot
  127. 迪路 says:
    @Malla

    My own assessment is that Modi is a half-hearted person, half fascist and half neoliberal.
    He likes to transfer benefits to Indian tycoons.
    The following is the answer from deepseek:

    [MORE]

    ### Is Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi a Fascist?
    The debate over whether Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi aligns with fascism involves divergent perspectives from international observers and academia. A comprehensive assessment can be framed through the following angles:

    ### **1. Arguments Supporting the “Fascism” Label**
    **A. Ideological Roots and Historical Ties**
    Modi and his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) are ideologically rooted in the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), a Hindu nationalist organization founded in 1925. The RSS’s early doctrines drew inspiration from Italian fascism and Nazism, emphasizing discipline, leader-worship, and Hindu supremacy. Modi, a lifelong RSS member since his youth, has internalized its ethos.
    For instance, the RSS historically praised Hitler’s “racial purity” ideology. Modi’s tenure as Gujarat Chief Minister (2001–2014) saw accusations of complicity in anti-Muslim violence during the **2002 Gujarat riots**, which killed over 1,000 people, cementing critiques of him as an enabler of “majoritarian violence.”

    **B. Authoritarian Policy Practices**
    **Marginalization of Minorities and Dissent**: The Modi government has been accused of using laws like the **Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA)** to exclude Muslims, while tolerating vigilante violence against them. Critics also highlight the weaponization of police and tax agencies to suppress opposition, media freedom, and academic criticism.
    **Erosion of Constitutional Values**: India’s secular and federal principles face strain, exemplified by revoking Kashmir’s autonomy (2019) and advancing Hindu nationalist agendas, which critics argue replaces pluralism with “majoritarian democracy.”

    **C. Economic Policies and Social Polarization**
    Modi’s neoliberal-nationalist economic policies—privatization, weakened labor protections, reduced welfare spending, and large infrastructure projects—prioritize urban elites and corporate interests over marginalized groups, exacerbating inequality.

    ### **2. Counterarguments Against the “Fascism” Label**
    **A. Resilience of Indian Democracy**
    Despite authoritarian trends, India retains multiparty elections and constitutional checks. Scholars note key differences from 1930s fascist regimes: India lacks systemic economic collapse, and institutions like courts and media still exert limited accountability (e.g., the 2020 farmers’ protests forced the repeal of farm laws).

    **B. Pragmatic Diplomacy and Development**
    Modi’s foreign policy blends nationalism with pragmatism, balancing ties with the U.S., Russia, and China (e.g., inviting Chinese investment for Mumbai’s infrastructure). Some analysts view his rhetoric as electoral posturing, with policies often more flexible.

    **C. Geopolitical Hypocrisy**
    Western powers, notably the U.S., downplay human rights concerns to court India as a strategic counterweight to China. This selective criticism underscores geopolitical double standards.

    ### **3. Complexity of the Debate**
    **A. Definitional Ambiguities**
    Traditional fascism (e.g., Nazi Germany) differs from India’s context. Leftist groups like the CPI(Marxist) label Modi’s regime as “Indian fascism,” combining crony capitalism, majoritarian violence, and constitutional erosion. Others caution against oversimplified analogies, urging focus on policy impacts.

    **B. Political Narratives**
    Criticism of Modi is often dismissed by supporters as “smear campaigns.” Opposition parties (e.g., Congress) weaponize the “fascist” label despite their own governance failures. Internationally, Pakistan and others use the term for diplomatic leverage.

    ### **4. Conclusion**
    Modi’s rule exhibits authoritarianism, majoritarianism, and suppression of dissent—traits overlapping with fascism. However, India’s democratic institutions, social diversity, and global ties prevent full alignment with classical fascism. A more precise characterization is a **hybrid of ethno-nationalist authoritarianism and neoliberalism**, challenging India’s secular-democratic foundations without fully dismantling them.

    This debate mirrors global tensions in defining fascism amid rising right-wing populism, underscoring the need for nuanced analysis over polemical labels.

    This translation maintains the original structure and key terminologies while adapting phrasing for clarity in English. Let me know if further refinements are needed!

    • Replies: @Malla
  128. @Malla

    Fascism is nationalistic and chauvinistic, aggressive and racist. Authoritarian and determined. Ergo Modi, the RSS, Hindutva. He only lacks any competence in nation-building.

    • Replies: @Owlistic
  129. Yababa says:
    @John Trout

    We are here to rape anyone we 👍 like, by the grace of our Lord Yahweh.

    The logic is the same as yours. Do you eat? You eat plants and animals, right? What’s your logic for taking their life? I guess you justify murder and eating of these lifeforms by the logic that they are lower lifeforms. Because your Lord God has decreed it to be so.

    As above so below.

    You are the lower lifeforms as decreed by our Lord God. And so we can do with you as we please.

    That is why we abduct millions of children every year. First we rape them. Then we drink their blood.

    As below so above.

  130. ghali says:
    @Malla

    Hindutva, to which Modi belongs, is worse than Fascism. Hindutva is a religio-fascist ideology that believes in establishing Hindu hegemony within the Subcontinent. Its endorsement of the Jews extermination of the Palestinian people is barbaric.

    • Agree: John Trout
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Malla
  131. @ghali

    How about the Islamo-Fascists? They want to convert everyone by force if need be, murder blasphemers and apstates, invade the world, spread the most aggressive terrorism.

  132. @Notsofast

    Well said! All true and factual. FACTS are different than opinions. The former requires work and diligence to find, the latter are like assholes-everybody has one.

  133. @NobodyImportant

    I think you should change your avatar to reflect your low level of understanding, your blindness and inability to perceive your irrelevance and stupidity.
    Suggestion: NobodyofRelevanceorInterest.

  134. @David Parker

    Russian is also run by Jew oligarchs

    Wrong, not even intuitive but the result of guessing and blind choices from a vacuum. You naivete and ignorance can be assuaged by reading past articles here, searching on YouTube [plenty of references from comments and articles].

    Do you know what Stupid II is? That is when a person is unaware how sparse, thin, and inadequately based their opinions are. When the ice start to crack on the lake, you should retrench to the research and investigative mode, ashore.

  135. Owlistic says:

    On this actual topic, it is precisely correct to say that India is the odd one out, as they are a status quo nation, who are simply seeking a better standing in the current world order.

    the important theme to understand here with India is that they are form over substance, therefore they are all happy to be part of BRICS QUAD ETC when it’s just a talking shop, however when the time comes down to action then they will demure, there is not a chance that the Indian elites are brave enough to join hands with Russia and china in BRICS or the west with the quad.

    Furthermore, following on the golden rule of substance over form, there is simply very little chance that Indians will psychologically and emotionally gear themselves up for war with China, all of their energies are directed towards Pakistan, that is their natural home for enmity.

    I would be interested to hear anyone’s thoughts, on how India can possibly ever be considered in any way a useful weight against China when they have chosen to revert to type, and hyphenate themselves back to Pakistan, where they are most happy.

    That’s perfectly fine for China, and probably for Pakistan too

    • Replies: @迪路
    , @Commentator Mike
  136. Owlistic says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    In fairness, people go a little bit overboard with hindutva. There is a fairly benign and regular interpretation of Hindutva which is adjacent to regular Hindu beliefs.

    Also, I think it’s in a way an incredible compliment to refer to hindutva as being like the Nazis, because that attributes a type of virility and potency that simply is a dream for the real ideologues.

    The way to think of Hindutva, as a threat, is that it is effectively an anemic, clumsy and hodgepodge version of nazism that has manipulated a mentally fragile south Asian post colonial peoples, to seek historical revisionism as a present day civilizational mandate.

    In other words, let’s get tough and strong by beating up any Muslim we can.

    This is literally one of the admitted RSS aims….mhow do we make our men feel masculine and tough?

    That’s why, we have this jeet phenomena, and this absolute adoration of modi, who functions as an avatar of the muscular assertive Hindu leader

    The farcical aspect is of course that in this revisionist historical narrative, Pakistan serves as a constant reminder of civilization failing and this has effectively led the Indian media to implode on itself, because they cannot reconcile the hodgepodge, unrealistic child-like fantasies of India’s power with the inability to historically settles scores with the people of north India, and around the river indus aka Pakistan,

    They have gone censorship crazy

    • Thanks: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @迪路
  137. 迪路 says:
    @Owlistic

    However, from our perspective, Hindu faith itself is like a group of dancing clowns.
    Those epics judged by novels are all third-rate novels.
    We simply think that claims like the afterlife are just nonsense.
    The worldview setting of Indian mythology is also very stupid.
    The first thing that Indians should think about is whether to consider learning Protestantism for religious reform.

    • Replies: @Lin
  138. 迪路 says:
    @Owlistic

    There has always been a saying circulating on our Internet, considering that India often comes to our border to cause trouble.
    It is necessary for us to launch a war aimed at completely destroying all industries in northern India.
    We are not interested in latrines, but if latrines keep trying to disgust us, then it is necessary for us to bring down India once and for all.
    Anyway, the hydropower station is already under construction. Doesn’t India like to cut off the water supply to Pakistan?
    We can also cut off all the water sources in India.
    Then let’s just see how many people will die in India?

  139. vox4non says:
    @littlereddot

    India has a distressing inability to reflect and consider their actions as a civilised member. If personified, India is like a schizophrenic, paranoid, narcissistic psychopath. The only thing one can count on it to do unhelpful things for itself and others. Unfortunately, its too big to ignore and too dangerous with its nuclear weapons to be left alone.

    • Replies: @littlereddot
  140. @vox4non

    Thanks, that was very well said.

  141. Lin says:
    @迪路

    As a long time observer of India, I avoid using emotional language on that country, just some simple facts:
    1)India,a very complicate political/civilisational grouping, is probably the most obvious example of a country anchored to a single religion; so the hindus must pile up whatever emotion, ‘pride‘,fairy tales, ‘spirituality’… on that religion. What’s the objective of ‘Hinduism‘? Just imagine if Apartheid in South Africa could last 1000s of years and a religion is constructed to sanctify it.
    2)Many nationalistic 3rd worlders claim they’re very proud of their countries…Why?
    Ans:Precisely because of their poverty and backwardness, they’ve little pride; but it’s too hurting to admit so, they keep babbling proud of this or that..
    3)Demagoguery happens in most countries but it seems to be the daily norm in India, as I mentioned before, some hindu scientists, politicians and the school textbooks in some indian states claim ancient indians invented spacecraft, nuclear weapons, internet…
    After the Indo-Pak Kashmir ceasefire,now the indian govt sends delegations of politicians aboard to convince foreigners that they won the war:
    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-to-send-8-mp-led-delegations-abroad-to-brief-global-capitals-on-pahalgam-attack-operation-sindoor/articleshow/121219403.cms?from=mdr

    Video Link

    • Replies: @迪路
  142. @Owlistic

    “I would be interested to hear anyone’s thoughts, how India can possibly ever be considered in any way a useful weight against China”

    The main question is whether the US is more pro-India or pro-Pakistan. I am not sure where US stands in this. Of course US is pro-India when it is in conflict with China but when India is in conflict with China’s proxy Pakistan where does US stand? My impression is that the US is very influential in Pakistan and close to the government there.

    Russia seems close to India and probably wants India in BRICS more than anyone else. But it looks like Russia’s relations with Pakistan are improving, and would have been extremely good had Imran Khan not been deposed (by US). Russia is probably the only one of the superpowers that wants true peace between all the players in the subcontinent, including between China and India. Russia is now very close to China but should the good relations ever deteriorated, it could consider India as leverage against China.

    At last, who is more influential in India: Russia or US? Russia seems to be very close to the Indian MIC with joint weapons development projects and sales of advanced weapons, as well as oil supplies. The US’s and West’s influence in India seems to be through soft power, and the cultural and English language influences, with the Indian elite and upper castes wanting to emulate Westerners and copy them. Also, the large Indian immigrant diaspora in the West has a big influence on India. There also Western investments in India and Indian billionaires’ investments in the West. But which outweighs the other, and which is the most influential superpower in India? Although concentrating on different sectors, my impression is that Russia and US are both influential in India and not necessarily rivals vying to outdo each other.

    No matter how close Russia may be to China, it will not give up supplying India with weaponry or developing joint military projects. This becomes more important in times of war. In a war between China and India, China could not persuade Russia to stop it’s support for India no matter how close their relationship may now appear.

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  143. Owlistic says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Ok, thanks for sharing your perspective.

    But really my question was based off the firm proclamation that India will be the hedge for use against China, as this is been declared to be a 50 to 100-year project and we are at a milestone point, I think India’s value is being assessed, some prominent think tankers like Ashley Tellis, who are very pro India have openly the asked the question

    The USA is only pro Pakistan on a tactical basis, it is not strategically looking at Pakistan

    India I think is in a pickle as eventually it will reduce its Russian footprint to a minimal level, it has also declared self-sufficiency as a goal, but really they are half a century from that.

    They also have no emotional or spiritual desire to confront China

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  144. @Anonymous

    And where are you from anon?

  145. 迪路 says:
    @Owlistic

    However, it makes no sense to confront us. The think tanks in the United States are really taking things for granted, arrogant and stupid.
    Even if India really looks for an opportunity to confront us, they will only have a second 1962.
    India has serious problems of its own. The majority of its citizens are garbage, which makes it impossible for it to develop its industry smoothly.
    Opposing us doesn’t mean obtaining our industrial transfer.
    Because the industry is in our hands, it is we who consider where to move it.
    We will not hire inferior Indians as employees. Nor will they consider India’s poor environment and garbage supply chain.
    The Indians have only one way to solve the problem: to destroy Hinduism and carry out large-scale massacres to eliminate all religious forces. Because this is not a religion suitable for the development of modern society.

  146. 迪路 says:
    @Lin

    Your words are to the point, while I am more aggressive.
    But what I said is basically correct.
    From the perspective of an ordinary Chinese person, these Indians are simply as unreasonable as the Goblins in The Lord of the Rings.
    看起来你是中国人?
    找阿三的乐子是一件有趣的事情,毕竟无论怎么说,他们都会自发地进行辩护,这让我感觉很有趣。
    明明是个小丑却这么自信。感觉印度人均普信男。
    每次都能收获快乐

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  147. @Commentator Mike

    My impression is that the US is very influential in Pakistan and close to the government there.

    Not uniformly.

    The US usually retains a high level of influence in the subject country’s military. This is an institution that persists beyond periodic changes in government leadership. So even though elected leaders may get closer to China, the military will retain close links and be influenced by the US.

    The US Empire uses the same modus operandi as the their predecessors the Brits, that of comprador elites. The comprador elites rule on behalf of the Empire and give the local population a fig leaf of belief that they are ruled by their own kind. However in the case of democratically elected governments, there is always a chance that the established comprador political leaders are replaced by more locally aligned elected leaders. In cases such as these, the Empire falls back on other non-elected institutions such as the military to retain influence in the subject country.

    A clear example was the elected PM Imran Khan who was ousted by his military after he got too close to China and particularly Russia.

    Another good example is the Philippines which retained close links with the US and persisted beyond the term for the popularly elected Duterte. It will be interesting to see the workings of the Philippines after the comprador Marcos is displaced in the next election by the Duterte faction again.

    Also South and Central American examples abound….and are so common to the extent of being the default….Brazil (for the time being), Venezuela and Cuba are glowing exceptions.

  148. @迪路

    What about other religions?

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  149. Xavier says:
    @迪路

    The Indians have only one way to solve the problem: to destroy Hinduism and carry out large-scale massacres to eliminate all religious forces.

    This will simply not work. The damage that Hinduism has done to the social fabric of India over the centuries, not to mention the Indian mind, is incalculable. It cannot be undone by merely getting rid of the religion at this point. Their wounded pride, resentment, myopia, and lack of general moral principles will ensure that they make bad decisions every single time. The next leader after Modi will most likely be Yogi Adityanath, an even bigger lunatic than Modi. The Chinese leadership needs to prepare for this clown, and so must the world.

    At any rate, I don’t see much of a future for India.

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  150. 迪路 says:
    @Obama llama

    It’s easier to understand if I make an analogy like this.
    Protestantism was established on the basis of the drawbacks of Catholicism and met the demands of capitalism.
    Hindu nationalism has not been reformed and does not meet the demands of capitalism.
    Hinduism requires oneself to believe that all one’s actions are victorious and that he will always win.
    Because whatever he does is right, he is right.
    When you point out the mistakes of Indians, he will tell you that there is definitely nothing wrong with it. Even if he really thinks he is wrong, he will tell you that you are generalizing from a single case.
    So he is not wrong.

  151. Lin says:
    @迪路

    I understand watching the hijra show is quite entertaining; still I suggest to view the matter from a practical POV..Some examples(I could list more if wanted):
    1)Chinese R&D expenditure(in norminal exchange rate)is at least 15 times that of India.
    2)USSR the superpower deployed its first aircraft carrier in 1975…while India, a poor 3rd world country got its first aircraft carrier(a 2nd hand WW2 boat from UK)in 1961..why the hurry?
    3)For most of the time since 1949, china has been under the threat of at least 1 nuclear superpower..but China improves fast.
    …………………..
    Simple conclusion:
    1)Hindu nationalists has been projecting the image of an emerging major power and recently superpower since 1947 independence but they lack sense of planning and strategy, so MIGA become MI(looks)GA out of demogogic need.
    3)China is under serious Darwinist survival challenge.

  152. 迪路 says:
    @Xavier

    Anyway, India is beyond saving.
    We simply don’t want to be disgusted by the cesspit.

  153. Owlistic says:
    @迪路

    Wow, this is certainly clearly defined view on India.

    That being said I don’t think there is a chance India will seek to confront China, in fact exactly the opposite, 1962 has left them still scarred and terrified, and then we see the exponential leap in capability between China and India and their military guys deep down know the score

    As of now, I’m really not sure how useful India is against China other than having the occasional pillow fight

    They are neither global North, or aligned to global South.

    They are neither NATO, or s c o

    They are a proud Eastern civilization in their own minds, but most proud when expressed in fluffy English

    It’s all form over substance, Pakistan here with China’s support and abilities has shown that just in one domain of military if you prioritize substance over form, you will have great results.

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  154. Lin says:
    @迪路

    Chini Hindi Bhai Bhai !!

    The Indians have only one way to solve the problem: to destroy Hinduism and carry out large-scale massacres to eliminate all religious forces. Because this is not a religion suitable for the development of modern society.

    There’s absolutely no need for such scenario!!
    Barring the issue of massive human migration from India, the rest of the world is benefited by hinduism within India. Because of hindu vegetarian diet, they consume little fodder crops while China imports about 100 million tons of soybean to feed meat animals. If the indians give up hinduism, together with their dietary habit, it could disturb international fodder crops price to the detriment of countries like China.
    According to hindu scientists, hindu breatharism can help manned mission to Moon&Mars !!

    Video Link

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  155. They are a proud Eastern civilization in their own minds, but most proud when expressed in fluffy English

    You describe them well.

    It is said that:

    If you want something done, ask a Chinese.
    If you want something said, ask an Indian.

    I live in a city where about 20-25% of the population is Indian/South Asian.

    I can certainly confirm that verbosity and flowery speech is a characteristic of Indians/South Asians.

    On the otherhand though. I think that when interacting with non-Chinese, Chinese people need to adapt by being more expressive. By being on the quiet side, they are often misunderstood.

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  156. 迪路 says:
    @Owlistic

    We still care quite a lot about the PLA in the Tibet Military Region. Many ordinary people voluntarily donated a large number of cold weapons there.
    Because Indians are overly confident, they often cross the border and commit some unrealistic provocative acts.
    The last time they targeted the opportunity was 2022.
    I guess these Indians will be eager to act. When they see an opportunity, such as when we unify Taiwan, they will want to take advantage of the chaos to give it a try.
    It is the nature of Indians to take small advantages. All transactions with Indians here require them to pay first and then deliver the goods. Otherwise, every time they will try to take our goods for free.
    So I thought that since sooner or later they would come to cause trouble and try to seize our territory, it would be better to do it once and for all and provide a longer period of peace for future generations.
    For instance, just like Vietnam in the past, we could completely destroy Vietnam’s industrial system.
    When I was swimming, I met a veteran of the Sino-Vietnamese War. He told me that at that time, they were just standing guard on the mountain top, waiting for the Vietnamese to charge. As soon as the Vietnamese came, they would shoot with machine guns, overjoyed.
    The Chinese military generally rarely suffers from PTSD. Killing people brings a kind of instinctive joy.
    He shares a similar view with me. Anyway, now we have an army of drones and robot dogs, and we can annihilate the Indian army on a large scale without the need for soldiers to take the initiative to attack.
    Hopefully, a few fools from the Indian military can try to attack us proactively. Then we will have an excuse.
    It feels like constantly confronting a latrard country with cold weapons has really put too much workload on the PLA. We should solve the problem once and for all.
    If possible, I will also try to join the army.

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  157. Malla says:
    @ghali

    Hindutva, to which Modi belongs, is worse than Fascism.

    Hindutva with all it’s faults is still far less “fascist” (what your brain understands of that word) than Islam and always will be. Both Islam and Hindutva are right winged and both are opposed to Marxism. By the twisted definition of Marxists, both would be “fascist.” Will Islam EVER tolerate an atheistic idea like Marxism??? Deny Allah, our creator? Of Course not.

    establishing Hindu hegemony within the Subcontinent.

    Islamists dream of Islamic hegemony on the entire planet. Why should Hindu want back the civilizational lands of their ancestors? Would you accept lowly kafirs like us lowly Hindoos, or lowly Western Christians to occupy Mecca? You will not. You will fight and resist. It is holy Land for you. The whole Indian subcontinent is Holy Land of Hindus.

    Its endorsement of the Jews extermination of the Palestinian people is barbaric.

    This is one point on which I am in agreement with you.

  158. Owlistic says:
    @迪路

    Thank you, very interesting response.

    A refinement that I would propose to your understanding is, the internal mismatch between believing and portraying yourself to be a civilizational state like say China or Japan, versus the actual reality of their day-to-day surroundings…. just imagine the funny psychological contradictions it does

    the Iranians when they need something tend to indulge the whole idea of we are ancient civilizations in public statements with Indians

    The creation of Pakistan, is therefore not just a twisting of the knife to their ego, but it is utter desecration of their sense of self. And to my mind this is really very unfortunate, because we are talking about something close to 2 billion people and the world could do with a more peaceful harmonious state

    Ok fine….. but wait … Now we have the Chinese, who have gone from the poverty of the 60s to where they are now.

    Imagine now, in real time, having to bear witness to the Chinese miracle of showing how civilizational States get their act together to actually create a civilization. Not only that, the Chinese have done it in the Chinese way, they have encoded their social and cultural norms into the architecture of how their society and technology functions.

    It’s all a whole lot of psychological pain being inflicted, India China and Pakistan, the Indian media, being a product of a elitist Western orientated capture, to my mind are cruel to the Indian masses ….by hyping up such unrealistic and almost child-like expectations to confront China

    And it’s not easy for an outsider to glean, because the Indians or Pakistan that you tend to meet will be the ones that will sell you the fluff

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  159. Owlistic says:
    @littlereddot

    Yes, but also the inherent contradiction of being more proud of how you speak in a foreign language, as you simultaneously insist on being a respected civilizational state, and also skipping the part of how come so many people in India actually even speak English to begin with.

    I suppose, when you have to juggle so many conflicting grandiose ideas, that will consume a lot of your brain power.

    Therefore, if you want to hold all these ideas I suppose you will invariably make a habit of pursuing form over substance

    And in a geo political sense, in terms of the confrontation to China, I think this is where the west is at

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  160. Malla says:
    @迪路

    My own assessment is that Modi is a half-hearted person, half fascist and half neoliberal.

    Could be, not a bad assessment. Let us not forget Modi has been elected thrice. By the people.

    I am impressed with Deep Seek. Quite a balanced answer. But…

    The RSS’s early doctrines drew inspiration from Italian fascism and Nazism, emphasizing discipline, leader-worship, and Hindu supremacy.

    Agree, but this association with the Italian Fascists and German National Socialism all but ended by WW2. Most Hindutvas tend to be anti- German NS because, most are hardcore philo-Semites. WW2 never had much cover in our history books, hell we were not even taught about the Holohoax. Our main villain in our history books were the British (now Muslims and Portuguese have been added in with the British), WW2 was seen as some distant war of foreigners even if Indian troops fought in it and Bose shook hands with Adolf Hitler and Hideki Tojo.
    Recently Hindutva circles are dishing out anti-Hitler propaganda…..why….because, to make Hindus even more pro-jewish.

    The Modi government has been accused of using laws like the **Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA)

    The Citizen Amendment Act was made to allow minorities facing persecution in our “neighbouring countries” (official language) to migrate to India and get citizenship. Frankly speaking, it was to save minorities in Pakistan and Bangladesh, facing persecution from the Muslim majority, to come to India and gain Indian citizenship. This was after constant complaints and demand by minority organizations in these two countries to the Indian Government. Not only Hindus but Jains, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians, Parsis (Zoroastrians), Atheists of all types and denomination were welcome. If these minority groups, did not really face any discrimination and security threat from the Muslim majority, all this is propaganda, they would simply not come to India for citizenship. Simple As. After all India is no U.K. or Germany, first World countries with big welfare schemes. In India, unlike most Western countries, with Government support, no women to easily rape, to milk the local tax payer etc…. Because unlike Western Governments who viciously hate their White populations, the Indian Government does not hate Indians. So, without any genuine fear, these populations would not have moved to India at all
    Then why would the Indian Government make provisions for Muslims when we are trying to save minorities or kaffirs (non-Muslims, karrif/kuffr is a derogatory term in the Islamic World) who face persecution from Muslims in the first place!!! How does that make sense?

    Modi’s neoliberal-nationalist economic policies—privatization, weakened labor protections, reduced welfare spending, and large infrastructure projects

    There is a belief in India that 40+ years of Nehruvian socialism led to India being left behind compared to other countries. There was aground support for more privatization and capitalism on the ground level. There were constant complaints about thuggish and corrupt (and very dangerous/ dominant) Indian labour unions deterring investment and manufacturing by both domestic and foreign investors and desire to amend the hardcore labour laws, put in place by the Nehruvian era Lanskyite (Indian leaders were highly influenced by the Works of Jewish Marxist Harold Lansky.
    Even then Modi did not modify the extremely harsh labour laws.

    Western powers, notably the U.S., downplay human rights concerns to court India

    Not true at all. Western powers have often raised questions about religious freedom etc… with India. This has led to violent reactions from the Indian nationalist masses who want the “West to mind it’s own business”. But those anti-West outbursts, does not mean that the masses will start loving China, becuz that is never happening.

    Leftist groups like the CPI(Marxist) label Modi’s regime as “Indian fascism,”

    Marxist retards group all those groups they do not like and label them as fascists, nazi, Imperialists. They group Capitalism and Race consciousnessin the same group even if both of them are not really ideologically aligned. For example, long time ago, on Capitalist.com website (is it still on?) I saw an article opposed to Racism!!! Being brainwashed by Marxist brainwashing from Western media, I was surprised. This can be seen by the ideas of classical liberal intellectual , Niall Ferguson.
    Similarly Hindutva retards do the same as marxists, place all the groups they do not like namely Islam, Christianity, Westernism or supporting the West in culture and ideas, Liberalism, Marxism, British Empire, Pakistan, China, UK, USA etc…..all in one group and call them “anti-nationals”, “enemies of the nation and motherland”. They always believe that all of the above, “anti-nationals” are secretly colluding against India and her rise.

    Internationally, Pakistan and others use the term for diplomatic leverage.

    Exactly!! Propaganda.

    Modi’s rule exhibits authoritarianism, majoritarianism, and suppression of dissent

    Sounds more like rule by a Communist Party. Comrade Modi wuz always one of yous all along.

    I will end by saying. It was much easier for an average Indian to criticize the Viceroy of India during Empire days than it is for an average Indian to criticize Modi. However, it is much, much more easier for an average Indian to criticize Comrade Modi than it is for an average Chinese to criticize Comrade Xi.

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  161. 迪路 says:
    @Malla

    Do you think modi’s false propaganda will enable the Indian People’s Party to be re-elected in the 2029 election?
    As for Xi, he is a spokesperson for us under our collective leadership system. He has excellent moral character. We haven’t seen him do anything wrong, so there’s no need to scold him.
    During his tenure, the Yellow River became clear. There is a saying, “When the Yellow River is clear, sages emerge.” The governance of the Yellow River has always been a serious problem for successive dynasties in China. The riverbed of the Yellow River is 9 meters above the ground and carries a large amount of sediment.
    Moreover, we have a tradition of avoiding taboos and try not to mention respectable people.
    If we want to scold something, we usually report it to the relevant department.

  162. 迪路 says:
    @Owlistic

    The main issue is to admit history, acknowledge one’s own shortcomings, and then make up for them.
    In the most war-torn era of the last century, we chose more to criticize our own shortcomings rather than publicize where we had won.
    The Japanese will not refrain from massacring the Chinese just because the Chinese claim victory.
    If you randomly choose an ancestor and religion for yourself like the Turks (the Islamized Greeks) do nowadays, then your actions will become a joke in the eyes of others.
    Religion cannot interfere in politics.
    Everything is headed towards the purest secularization.

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  163. Malla says:
    @Owlistic

    This guy owlshitic just farts on rubbish like no tommorow.

    the Indian media, being a product of a elitist Western orientated capture,

    What??? When did that happen???? How?? Explain.

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  164. Owlistic says:
    @Malla

    Yes, is that not true?

    The majority of Indian media channels, seem to be covered by half a dozen or so of key families and conglomerates…Ambani, adani, Jain….

    What are you going to tell me now, they are sons of the soil and the Indian oligarchy is completely detached from the Western Oligarchs?

    Oh… Whilst we are discussing the media, you guys have literally gone censorship crazy, it’s farcical

  165. Malla says:
    @Owlistic

    Yes, but also the inherent contradiction of being more proud of how you speak in a foreign language, as you simultaneously insist on being a respected civilizational state, and also skipping the part of how come so many people in India actually even speak English to begin with.

    Speaking a foreign language negates you being a civilizational state??? What what what???? You retards have no idea what you guys are talking about.

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  166. Owlistic says:
    @Malla

    Why do Indians mock the Chinese for not speaking the smoothest English, yet the Chinese are wondering why the Indians take so much pride in having a foreign language being prevalent in Indian society.

    If you don’t have independence of language, then how do you have independence of civilization

    This I would guess should be elementary, but then again how could you know otherwise?

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  167. anonymous[553] • Disclaimer says:

    Indians and Pakistanis didn’t need Mossad to set themselves against each other. There have been centuries of Hindu-Muslim tension and violence, the horrors of partition, India’s seizure of Kashmir, and various wars and war scares.

    France’s decline had to do with the loss of its colonies and the rise to power of other nations. France prevailed over Spain and Austria, only to have Britain, then Germany, then the US and USSR and now China and India in turn overshadow France. Jews have been a big part of French history since the Revolution. Are they more powerful now than they were when Pompidou of the Rothschild Bank took over in the Sixties, or when Leon Blum was in charge in the Thirties, or when Marcel Proust was writing about Parisian high society and being entertained by the Rothschilds over a century ago? Without Protestants and Jews would France have been able to keep up industrially and financially with other powers?

  168. @Owlistic

    Why do Indians mock the Chinese for not speaking the smoothest English, yet the Chinese are wondering why the Indians take so much pride in having a foreign language being prevalent in Indian society.

    A most interesting question. I think there is a cultural explanation.

    While Indians and Westerners hold eloquence in high regard, Chinese and Eastern Asians tend to look upon the “gift of the gab” with suspicion, perhaps even disdain.

    In the Eastern Asia, a smooth talker is associated with the use of superficial speech to cover up a lack of deeper substance.

    That is why Eastern Asians tend to talk far less then Indians and Westerners. Eastern Asians and especially NE Asians tend to expect to be judged by their actions, rather than their words.

    Because of this, they can come across as uncommunicative or even inscrutable to Indians and Westerners.

    Just a personal observation.

    p.s. a further observation that can be correlated with tech developments in China recently:
    NE Asians dislike talking about things or projects they are engaged it, fearing that it might come across as boasting. But when the project is finished, it shocks everyone. Often, when a NE Asian talks about a project, the chances are that it is already 80% complete.

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  169. Owlistic says:
    @littlereddot

    This is a very interesting difference to explain, the comparison I was trying to draw is the Chinese seem more than happy in just knowing their own language well and not needing to be perfect in English. Not having the most perfect English, will not be seen as a weakness

    That to me, makes sense as China is where they will live, they are Chinese it’s not even an internal question

    However it is the case in India that much of your credibility is associated in your ability to speak smooth and rich English, as if they were a British parliamentarian of old, a senator of Rome.

    So again, I am sorry to say, how can those in India insist that they are a civilizational state like China but the language they value are those from foreign imposition

    Other than that, yes you make a very valid point where one culture seemingly highly highly values the substance and would not talk unless the outcome is there and another that too much values form, the appearence or description of substance

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  170. Malla says:
    @Owlistic

    Why do Indians mock the Chinese for not speaking the smoothest English

    If they do, I think it is wrong. Compared to the Chinese, we Indians pick up English faster because our own native languages atleast from Northern India belong to the same language group as English, Indo-European. It is easy to mix Hindi and English. And we are not the only ones, the Pakistani serfs of the Chinese, do the same. As much as the Pakis love to larp as Semetic Arabs, their Urdu belongs to the same language group as English too.
    BTW,we Indians get mocked for our English too sometimes. Tell the Chinese to Live with it, not let da haters bother them an sheit, haters be hatin but the Chinese can be jivin.

    Chinese are wondering why the Indians take so much pride in having a foreign language

    I have not met any Indian who is proud of speaking English. We speak Hindi, English and other languages with ease. Nobody is proud or ashamed of anything.

    If you don’t have independence of language, then how do you have independence of civilization

    It is easily possible. Very possible and easy to have independence of a non-White civilization with English. And we are independence of language, who said we don’t. We have more languages with their own scripts than what you can handle.

    Again it is astounding how similar Chicoms and Chinese Communist supporters are in mentality to Hinduvadis. Guess who else opposes English in India and vehemently oppose it? Guess, well the people most similar to Chicoms in mentality, the Hinduvadi. Cheers to both you guys.

    The real question iz about the inherent contradiction of being more proud of a foreign Western imported ideology of Marxism, as you simultaneously insist on being a respected civilizational state? That is why Hindus do not respect China as a civilization. If one don’t have independence of ideology, then how do you have independence of civilization. That iz da important question. Cheers.

    The majority of Indian media channels, seem to be covered by half a dozen or so of key families and conglomerates…Ambani, adani, Jain….

    And there is Government owned media called Doordarshan. You ignore non-English, vernacular media, who are way more anti-China and anti-Pakistan than English media.

    What are you going to tell me now, they are sons of the soil and the Indian oligarchy is completely detached from the Western Oligarchs?

    Of course they are Indians, the relationship in between Indian Oligarchs and Western Oligarchs is complex and many a times at odds. Many a times Indian Oligarchs pull strings to prevent Western oligarchs to enter the Indian market or thrive in the Indian Market, so that they get the whole market for themsleves. Were the Chinese not spreading anti-India propaganda some days back about how hard it is to invest in India when they faced derisking post COVID, they brought up those points too. Then suddenly the Chinese Communists became very concerned about those very Western or Russian or Japanese or Korean Oligarchs. LMFAO.
    Anyways, how can one explain why Indian media is so anti-Western??

    Video LinkWest’s Double Standards: Unfair To India, Easy On Pak?
    NDTV India.

    Video LinkIndia STRIKES Trump With ‘Unexpected’ Tariff Payback, Escalates Trade War In Bold Retaliation
    India has fired back. In a surprise move, New Delhi has informed the WTO of its decision to hit select U.S. goods with fresh tariffs.

    Woaw what sepoys, with sepoys like dese, who needs enemies?

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  171. Malla says:
    @littlereddot

    While Indians and Westerners hold eloquence in high regard, Chinese and Eastern Asians tend to look upon the “gift of the gab” with suspicion, perhaps even disdain.

    Same her in India. We are suspicious about smooth talkers.
    But Indians look at the Chinese with suspicion, consider the Chinese very cunning and lying in their words. Which, they also think about the USA and Muslims. Muslims have a concept of taqiya and non Muslims here are always scared they have been taqiyaad.

    In the Eastern Asia, a smooth talker is associated with the use of superficial speech to cover up a lack of deeper substance.

    Same here in India.

    That is why Eastern Asians tend to talk far less then Indians and Westerners.

    Introverts. Simple.

    Eastern Asians and especially NE Asians tend to expect to be judged by their actions, rather than their words.

    Same here in India.

    NE Asians dislike talking about things or projects they are engaged it, fearing that it might come across as boasting.

    That is more specifically more a Japanese trait. Or I would say Germanic North West Europeans (including Anglos) have this same trait too or had these traits before Cultural marxist Western media made them more Jewish like and later more ghetto Black like through the decades. Victorian Britons, WASPS, Germans etc….had the stiff upper lip or the concept of “Keep Quite and Do Your Duty”. This is more common among Germanic North West Europeans and Japanese. Maybe other White and Yellow, being genetically similar, show similar tendencies at times.
    It is true that we Indians find North East Asians and Northern Europeans very quite unlike say Med/ Southern Europeans or Hispanics or Middle Easterners and especially Blacks being very talkative. But we see this trait the most among Japanese and Anglo-Germanics. We South Asians are quite talkative too but those from Nepal, Bhutan, the North Eastern parts of India, Chittagong Hill tracts part of Bangladesh and Ladakhis are much quieter than other South Asians.

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  172. Owlistic says:
    @Malla

    My word.

    So in India, people speak English because apparently it belongs to the same language of families, so it’s almost like going from Portuguese to Spanish huh

    This is nuts

    The difference is, in formation of education system.

    In the Indian educational system English is regarded as a core language, in the Chinese educational system it is regarded as a foreign language.

    You can remind me yourself, how English entered India ***roll eyes***

    What sort of civilizational state can you be if you are thinking and communicating in a foreign imposed language?

    Then on the media, what do you want that to prove?

    obviously India is quite pissed off with trump and the west as he is just denied an apple factory in India, said nice things about Pakistan, insisted half a dozen times that he mediated and stopped a war when the Indians do not, and is deporting loads of Indians from America to India, and so on and so on.

    Oh yeah, fox news is having fun with India’s jet losses as well, seems like you have to buy those f35s…. Unless of course you have the fight in you to be an independent pole

    This is really a full display of my point, where you have convinced yourself that the appearance of something is more substantive than it is. In the aftermath of the tragic Kashmir attack, why were so many Indian news channels searching for Western validation? Why were they so offended when some western commentators advised India to collect evidence?

    I think a week or so after the attack, I saw an interview of the mad warhawk John Bolton himself on Indian television, the news presenter was seeking validation for India’s unilateral and hawkish approach, well the guy who apparently can find no war that he does not endorse suddenly advised India to collect evidence and tune down the rhetoric!

    How do you get John Bolton to sound like a dove? That’s actually an achievement

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  173. Malla says:
    @迪路

    Because Indians are overly confident, they often cross the border and commit some unrealistic provocative acts.

    Honestly speaking, nobody knows which side crosses the border and commits provocative acts. Both sides blame the other side, the fog of war. Maybe both sides do.

    I guess these Indians will be eager to act. When they see an opportunity, such as when we unify Taiwan, they will want to take advantage of the chaos to give it a try.

    This might be true.

    So I thought that since sooner or later they would come to cause trouble and try to seize our territory, it would be better to do it once and for all and provide a longer period of peace for future generations.

    Indians have the exact same opinion about the Chinese. We call it the infamous Salami slicing technique of the Chinese, Chinese stealing Indian land, small parcel at a time. “Kick all these foreign enemy forces out of motherland”, shout millions of Indians, when they hear about this.

    The Chinese military generally rarely suffers from PTSD. Killing people brings a kind of instinctive joy.

    Yes, looks like the Chinese are a brutal and inhuman people. 180 degrees opposite to the Indian mentality of desiring peace and spreading love. No wonder the Buddha or Gandhi came from our part of the World.

    Hopefully, a few fools from the Indian military can try to attack us proactively.

    Hope, you will not be fooled, that it is the India of 1962 again. India and the idiot Nehru went anti-colonial and anti-West ape frenzy and appeased the Chinese Commies and all he got was a backstab. the Chinese commie snake bit him hard, he became a joke in front of the Indian masses. Which he deserved. Before that India was not that militaristic about it’s East. But after that we pulled our socks up, created new mountain divisions etc… The Chinese backstab actually helped us wake up and might have been a good vaccine to give up idealism and become realistic.
    So it is not 1962 India anymore. Just sayin.

    What Communist China is REALLY scared of is the USA and India fighting China as a team. This is why all this abnormal behaviour about India now, but too late, boat sailed away decades ago, neva coming back as Indians are super vindicative people.

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  174. @Owlistic

    Yes, I get your point. I was only going off in a tangent because you touched on a topic that interested me.

    But back to your point about English speaking in China VS India.

    In India, the ability to speak English ties in with a person’s social class. Those that can speak English are usually of a higher socio-economic / caste standing. So all those H1Bs that the USA is getting, whom Americans think of as “poor desperate immigrants”? These guys are actually the cream of the crop of India.

    The phenomenon of a high regard to speak an esteemed foreign language is actually quite common around the world where colonisation has taken place. The ability to speak the language of the colonial masters well marks out the person to have been one of the favoured classes/elites of that colonised society.

    The reverse phenomenon happens in the “colonial” countries where the inability to speak the language of the colonial master marks one for disdain. That is why we get incidences like American Karens screaming at Latino people to “speak English”. The Karen automatically recognises someone speaking a different language as a foreigner and therefore inferior to her, and worthy of bully. All of this ties in with the American assumption that they are the most superior country on earth.

    Actually this topic is highly nuanced and every country/culture will have its own variations of language vis a vis cultural self worth. It is all mixed up with socio-economic, ethnic, cultural rankings within the society.

    I happen to live in Singapore where there are 4 official languages, everyone is multilingual, and the demographics are quite a mash up. Languages, and how they are spoken are a automatic and subtle cue as to everyone’s social standing.

    • Thanks: Owlistic
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  175. Malla says:
    @Owlistic

    In the Indian educational system English is regarded as a core language, in the Chinese educational system it is regarded as a foreign language.

    Nope. There are millions of Indians who go to vernacular schooling where the core languages are local languages.

    What sort of civilizational state can you be if you are thinking and communicating in a foreign imposed language?

    It was not really imposed. It was much more complicated than that. Maybe a future post.
    Again, having English playing an important role in communication does not negate a civilizational state.

    Then on the media, what do you want that to prove?

    I have already proven that your claim that Indian media is closely knot with Western media is full of gas.

    why were so many Indian news channels searching for Western validation?

    Validation? How so? We are seeing who our friends and enemies are in this just operation. China is always our enemy as usual. So is Turkey.

    himself on Indian television, the news presenter was seeking validation for India’s unilateral and hawkish approach,

    You got a link? India was hawkish? How so? We have faced frequent terror attacks supported by Pakistan for ages. We wanted to make Pakistan think twice before getting into such misadventures. If India had been hawkish, we would have targeted Pakistani military installations in our first strike.

    But you avoid the main question, how is China, which has taken the foreign ideology of Maxism, a civilizational state? On the other hand, India with Hindutva, which is native to the subcontinent is truly a civilization state inspite of whatever language is used to communicate our Hindu ideology.

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  176. Owlistic says:
    @littlereddot

    Yes, there is a status associated with smooth and silky English.

    But that’s contradiction to being an ancient civilization..m no in fact what you are having is some ancient practices, some cultural continuity, but a whole bunch of other foreign stuff that have imprinted their civilization onto yours

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  177. Owlistic says:
    @Malla

    Running out of reasonable or semi-sensible discussions to have here, are we really saying English is not an imposed language?

    I suppose there are no issues with churches the n? That’s Indian too I guess, love Jesus.

    If china is not a civilizational state then there are none that exist, it’s a null concept

    This is what you dont get, truly.

    China is not obsessed with advertising it self as a civilizational state. it just gets busy making one.

    This is the other mind bending concept…

    Communist, Maoist, Taoist, Pacifist, jingoistic capitalist… whatever
    …it’s transient ideology that can come and go, when measured against the civilizations overall health…it’s the ability, the confidence the daring to reinvigorate yourself …. china is communist, sure lol

    India has been sold Hindutva kool-aid because it’s a psychological weak point to direct the masses, destined to inplode,it has no depth or structure….just a mandate to be angry and have a millennia of psychic pain…. course correct it’s better

    Just YouTube John Bolton videos on Indian TV from a week ago

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  178. @Malla

    Yes taqiya is very deceitful and pernicious. The Muslims will play along with you, following and obeying everything as long as he is in an inferior position, but once they rise in numbers and feel the power in their hands then wham, they stomp on you.

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  179. @Owlistic

    But that’s contradiction to being an ancient civilization..m no in fact what you are having is some ancient practices, some cultural continuity, but a whole bunch of other foreign stuff that have imprinted their civilization onto yours

    I think India is no stranger to that. The very origins of the caste system was based on the conquering lighter skinned Aryans relegating the darker skinned conquered Dravidians to the lower castes. In their system, the darker skinned you are, the lower your caste.

    The conquered lower caste peoples simply adopted the culture and values of their conquerors. The Dravidians accepted the same religions and scriptures of their conquerors. This is the opposite from what happened in China, where the Han absorbed their conquerors and turned them Chinese.

    In the Indian state of mind, a conquering power simply takes on another layer in the existing hierarchy. Speaking English in the 1800s was no different from learning Urdu during the Muslim conquests in the 1200s, or the predecessors of Hindi in 2000BC after the Aryan conquests. They were all layers of conquests and imposed language/culture.

    —–

    I will risk making a prediction though.

    Malla in one of his posts attached an article entitled “How China lost India forever”. I believe it was written some decades back.

    I did not bother to read it, but the title caught my eye. I think the title of this article is short sighted and presumes that China will stay as the underdog to the West forever.

    My prediction is that as China rises and becomes much more affluent and resumes a position of prestige. India will become sycophantic to China then, just as they are sycophantic to the US now, and to the British before that.

    It is something in the Indian mind that makes them suck up to parties that are in power, and abuse those that are weaker than them. Maybe it is an Aryan thing?

    There is a saying in Singapore: “It is ok to have an Indian as a subordinate or as peer. But if he becomes your boss, you better watch out.”

  180. 迪路 says:
    @Malla

    This is simple. Let me give you an example.
    In 2013, India kept claiming that our side used unmanned aircraft to cross the line of actual control to detect the movements of the Indian army.
    However, our side indeed did not dispatch spy drones to detect the movements of the Indian army.
    Therefore, our side has repeatedly stated that no unmanned aircraft has crossed the Line of actual control at all. If there had been any, the Indian army could have shot them down directly.
    Then, after many observations, the Indian army reached a conclusion.
    The so-called unmanned aircraft are Venus and Jupiter.
    So… Generally speaking, it is very difficult for you to ask us to communicate with people with intellectual disabilities.
    As for the point that you think we are cruel… I think the three countries in East Asia are all the same. Out of rational thinking, we believe it is necessary to kill people.
    As for your opinion that CPC should be afraid of the alliance between India and the United States…
    Your idea is a bit strange… First of all, around us, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Mongolia and Pakistan are all partners or Allies of the United States.
    If we follow your statement, we should be afraid of all the countries around us that have an ally relationship with the United States.
    Rather than all the neighboring countries being afraid of us?
    It seems that you take yourself too seriously.

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    , @Malla
  181. @littlereddot

    The very origins of the caste system was based on the conquering lighter skinned Aryans relegating the darker skinned conquered Dravidians to the lower castes.

    Isn’t this just conjecture? Is there any evidence that this is what actually happened?

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    , @littlereddot
    , @Malla
  182. Owlistic says:
    @littlereddot

    I will suggest another amendment here

    Just because it once was….why did they choose to persist with it? The wise leadership is where….

    Many many major nations have over the course of time chosen to rewire their software.

    my friend malla wants to resurrect the never was = UPSIDE DOWN

    The ideological Hindutva loves caste hierarchy

    don’t want to rock the boat here too much, but those North Western Indians, with the alleged barbarian DNA….that country of Pakistan chose islam…. because it offers the theoretical and spiritual basis of equality, they discarded the old

    Versus

    Caste determinism

    Anyone volunteering to be a Dalit?

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  183. Xavier says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I’m not sure about the history, but even in modern India, upper caste is associated with fair skin. You can often guess a person’s caste by looking at their complexion. That doesn’t always work though, as there are darker skinned upper casters as well, not to mention lighter skinned low casters (like Bollywood actress Amisha Patel, although she is of mixed caste and not pure Patel)

  184. Lin says:
    @迪路

    Hindus are demographically very proud cannon fodder:

    we can take casualties, we can roll with the punches. The Chinese can’t

    https://asiatimes.com/2022/05/weighing-americas-repivot-away-from-asia/
    ………..

    The so-called unmanned aircraft are Venus and Jupiter.

    It’s actually quite strange; Anyone(say, a junior army officer) with a pair of binoculars to observe the night sky would tell that Jupiter can be identified by its 4 larger moons Io, Europa, Ganymede, and Callisto; that’s what Galileo discovered.
    Also planets, unlike aircrafts, only cross the sky slowly.

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  185. @Commentator Mike

    Isn’t this just conjecture?

    Admittedly it is.

    But if it looks like shit, smells like shit, I ain’t gonna taste it to make sure.

    Anyways similar, but much more recent phenomenon can be observed all over the world.

    In the Philippines, the mixed breed, lighter skinned descendents of the Spanish colonisers occupy a higher social position.

    In South America, the lighter skinned descendents of the conquistadors occupy a higher social position than the indigenous Amerindians.

    In the USA, a guy with 1 black grandparent and 3 white grandparents is still considered “black”….even though he is genetically 75% white….evidently he is considered “tainted”.

  186. @Owlistic

    Just because it once was….why did they choose to persist with it? The wise leadership is where….

    For them to change, it would first require
    1. discernment…for them to actually realise there is a problem in the first place
    2. honesty….for them to admit there is a problem
    3. will…for them to choose to overcome the problem
    4. competence…for them to be able to overcome the problem.

    I think India is only still somewhere between item 1 and 2 above. Now in 2025 there is still no consensus amongst the Hindutva that there is a problem with the caste system in the first place.

    Even the Great Soul, Mahatma Gandhi did not criticise the caste system, only the untouchability part of it.

    IMHO, India is still far from being able to reform.

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  187. 迪路 says:
    @Lin

    Anyway, I don’t understand why Indians always fabricate the illusion of victory for themselves.
    The actual situation is much worse.
    If I were an Indian, I would surely think that the country is doomed.

  188. Owlistic says:
    @littlereddot

    Very wisely, and delicately worded

    In fact, the whole region is basically stuck in number 1, the one country which has a real shot at being something is arguably Sri Lanka, small populations, intelligent people and a beautiful island…. Just minus the ethnic civil war and divisions

    There is a psychological phenomena, called the narcissism of small differences, it’s from Freud if I recall, but there might be something to it.

    I believe this is controlling the whole region, and that is why form is always given more energy than substance

    Also, as long as the elites do you not take point one seriously, then they are not serious about having a real country in my opinion.

    Then, there is the question of 3 and 4, if you always have a home away from home, in the west then you don’t bother with three and four

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    , @Malla
  189. Malla says:
    @Owlistic

    are we really saying English is not an imposed language?

    No it was not. Vernacular (native language) education existed during the British Empire, paid by the Imperial Government. Traditional Hindu gurukuls and Islamic madrases existed in British India, getting state grants from the Government of India (British Raj as well as the earlier East India Company Government).

    I suppose there are no issues with churches the n? That’s Indian too I guess, love Jesus.

    Are you a Hindu nationalist? Why do you arguments sound so similar to that of Hindutvas you hate so much? You sound SO MUCH like Modi fan.

    Communist, Maoist, Taoist, Pacifist, jingoistic capitalist… whatever
    …it’s transient ideology that can come and go

    Sanskrit, Persian, English are transient languages that come and go.

    India has been sold Hindutva kool-aid because it’s a psychological weak point to direct the masses, destined to inplode,it has no depth or structure….just a mandate to be angry and have a millennia of psychic pain

    China has been sold Marxist-Maoist kool-aid because it’s a psychological weak point to direct the masses, masses who could not digest the fact that they are not Middle Kingdom no mo and that they are extremely backward and uncouth compared to the more sophisticated Westerners and Japanese, who they extremely foolishly looked as “barbarians.”….just a mandate to be angry and have centuries of psychic pain…leading to a such a chimpout that the drugged, deranged masses, the Chinese people themselves destroyed thousands of years of Chinese historical heritage of their ancestors in the so-called “Cultural Revolution” 1000s of years of heritage destroyed because Mao wanted to save his own political position from rival Commies, the usual mafia type squabble for power in any Communist party. I do not think any other nation did so much idiotic self damage as Communist China, total comedy circus, well, maybe the Western nations of today might be on the same tract. Thank God for Taiwan, the ROC, for preserving classical Chinese Culture.

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  190. @Owlistic

    In fact, the whole region is basically stuck in number 1, the one country which has a real shot at being something is arguably Sri Lanka, small populations, intelligent people and a beautiful island…. Just minus the ethnic civil war and divisions

    You are very right. When the Brits left Sri Lanka / Ceylon, it was considered one of the pearls of Asia. I happen to visit it before the civil war, and it was a beautiful place indeed.

    Interestingly enough, the Sinhalese majority consider themselves more Aryan than their Dravidian Tamil neighbours. Apparently they are descendants of relatively recent migrations from the north. Of course they consider themselves lighter skinned and therefore superior to the Tamils….not that my eyes can tell the difference, LOL.

    One thing I want to note is that there are quite discernible differences in culture and behavior between the more Dravidian south and more Aryan north. Personally I observe that the southerners tend to be a gentler people. The northerners are more brash and aggressive. Even Indians will tell you that the south is cleaner and more organised than the north.

    There is a psychological phenomena, called the narcissism of small differences, it’s from Freud if I recall, but there might be something to it.

    Yes, that is a good point. I recently learned about this concept of “narcissism of small differences”. I didn’t know it was from Freud tho. All the same, I think it is a very valuable idea.

    Also, as long as the elites do you not take point one seriously, then they are not serious about having a real country in my opinion.

    Perhaps they do desire to have a real country. It is just that they don’t know how to go about doing it.

    To me, the USA is facing the same problems now. Everybody knows something is seriously wrong with the country. They just don’t know/can’t agree on how to go about fixing it. But in my opinion, the root problem with the USA is not the mechanics of how to the reform. It is the pride/hubris in the hearts of Americans. Their arrogance stops them from honestly looking at their own problems clearly, and listening humbly to what the other has to say, much less respecting them. Everybody believes that he is right and dismisses differing views. Only when they develop humility will the rebuilding/reform take place properly.

    If it is possible to liken the US to be inside the 7 Stages of Grief, ie. shock, denial, anger, bargaining, depression, testing, and acceptance. I think the US is currently in between shock and denial.

    Then, there is the question of 3 and 4, if you always have a home away from home, in the west then you don’t bother with three and four

    Very true. Every Indian who can get of India, does.

    Indians often boast that getting into IIT is harder than getting into MIT. But the goal of every IIT graduate is to go to the USA under H1B.

    It is sad for the future of India though. The brain drain is severe.

  191. Malla says:
    @迪路

    This is simple. Let me give you an example……

    I am not saying that my Government is always innocent as the official State media in India claims or what the Indian Nationalist nutjob masses think. Since I do not have that kind of information, it is very difficult to say which side is the aggressor in each case. Fog of war and propaganda. Anyway, there is no official border in between China and India, there is a LOC. Until an official agreement is reached on both sides on the boundaries. Both India and China have their own maps and the maps overlap a bit. In India, we can be arrested for showing the “wrong” map of India, before the cops arrest you, the people would beat up the person for being a “traitor” and “anti-national.” In such a situation, even simple mistakes can lead to soldiers from both sides straying into the enemy side.

    First of all, around us, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Mongolia and Pakistan are all partners or Allies of the United States.

    Pakistan is your lackey, and Vietnam is a potential ally of Murica too. Even Singapore.
    BUT India is on the other side, on the Western side, the rest are in the East, due to which China could face a two front war like Germany in both World Wars. Mongolia sandwiched in between the Russian Federation and the PRC cannot do much for Murica.

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  192. Malla says:
    @Owlistic

    Just minus the ethnic civil war and divisions

    Sri Lanka has a Sinhalese Tamil divide, but thankfully that seems resolved for now. Sri Lanka also has its own version of Hindunat RSS, the Buddhist BBS or Buddha Bala Sena which like it’s Hindu counterpart in India is anti-Muslim, anti-Chrisitan, anti-Marxist and anti-Anglo Liberal. They have not gained power, yet. Also, Israel is involved a lot in Sri Lanka, using the usual Divide and Chaos, believe it or not.

  193. 迪路 says:
    @Malla

    Well, the actual situation might be a little hurtful.
    Considering the background that you are not familiar with the actual military situation, therefore, my words are trying my best to take care of your self-esteem.
    I put Pakistan and Japan together actually hoping that at least you won’t feel too bad.
    I hope you can actually understand the actual military strength of Japan and South Korea.
    Then let me put it directly like this.
    The armies of Japan and South Korea are stronger than yours in short-term operations. Even if you ask a Japanese military enthusiast about this, they will tell you based on the actual situation that it is indeed the case.
    However, even though the United States included all the troops of Japan and South Korea in the military exercises of the First Island Chain, they still couldn’t defeat us within the First Island Chain…
    So we don’t need to be afraid of a clown who always claims to be very strong.
    Really.
    The fighter jets J10 that we sold to Pakistan were manufactured by us over 20 years ago…
    So… Is it possible that you were actually Japan in World War II… ?
    You will actually see even cooler things.

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  194. Owlistic says:
    @Malla

    You’re not even trying to respond in any intelligent way, you want to fill your response up with words but they make no sense

    Jesus English arriving in India talk is just painful, I am feeling the pain on your behalf

    So were the English schools during empire an invitation, or an imposition?

    Or one day, did people just pop up talking in English?

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    , @mulga mumblebrain
  195. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Upper Castes look more light skinned on average compared to the surrounding population in any region of India. There are dark skinned upper Caste and lighter skinned lower castes too but on average, upper caste Hindus tend to be more light skinned. Upper caste men could marry lower caste women but not the reverse, they would also keep loads of lower caste/ tribal women as sex slaves via the Dev Dasi system (later banned by the British Imperial Government). In some places, a lower caste couple could only marry after a brahmin man had deflowered the bride, so in many cases the first child might have been of the brahmin rather than the lower caste husband. This custom was called Shuddikaran or “purification”. This custom was strictly banned by the British, during the Empire, banned by law. This way, a lot of upper caste male DNA flowed into the lower castes and jungle tribals via their women.
    One should visit an upper caste marriage ceremony and immediately go to a lower caste marriage ceremony and contrast the average appearance of the two crowds in the marriage halls. The upper caste crowds on average will be more light skinned, will many a time have a “European like look ” about them, more sharp triangular noses, more thin lips. Lower caste crowds on average will be more dark skinned, more “Australian Abo looking” on average with blunt noses.
    Also, Upper Caste Hindus tend to have more Aryan or Steppe Ancestry (basically Northern European ancestry) as a percentage of their overall DNA compared to lower caste Indians. South Indian jungle tribals have the least amount of Aryan ancestry but even they have some.
    Most South Asians (incl Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans etcc) were formed by Aryan men bonking native hunter gatherer women or Indus Valley farmer women. That is why in Hinduism women are naturally Shudra or lower caste. Even brahmin women are officially Shudra but because they were Brahmin women they could not marry a Shudra man or any man of a lower caste. That is why upper caste Hindus have a thread ceremony for their sons (now a days only brahmins do it) at puberty, where they would be “born again.” Their first births were from a woman but women, even upper caste women are in a way Shudras or lower castes and thus such a birth was sinful. By having the thread ceremony, us upper caste men would have our second births as true upper castes. That is why we upper castes are called Dwijiya or “Twice born”. Back in the day, in ancient times, only upper caste men could speak Sanskrit, even upper caste women were not considered worthy to learn and speak Sanskrit, let alone, lower caste men. This women being naturally lower caste by gender, kind of signals that a good chunk of the South Asian population was formed by Aryan men mating with native women (black hunter-gatherer women and Indus Valley farmer women). Unlike Iran/ Persia, not many women came with the Aryan waves into the Indian subcontinent, it was a more male invasion/ migration.

  196. Malla says:
    @littlereddot

    The phenomenon of a high regard to speak an esteemed foreign language is actually quite common around the world where colonisation has taken place. The ability to speak the language of the colonial masters well marks out the person to have been one of the favoured classes/elites of that colonised society.

    Not always true. In India it is only partially true. In the Dutch East Indies, or Indonesia, Dutch Imperial policy was not to teach Dutch but for the Dutch officers to learn the local language. Even in British India, for many positions in the Imperial system, Britons were expected to learn about two native Indian languages. When the Dutch did begin to teach Dutch to Indonesians, they actually ended up creating Indonesia anti-colonial revolutionaries.
    Secondly, English education was seen by many among the down trodden or lower castes Dalits to gain knowledge, modern European knowledge superior to any other at that time in the World. English language acted as a revolutionary tool for many such downtrodden people who would read about the French Revolution and the American War of Independence, get influenced by Anglo-Liberal ideology to revolt against upper caste domination. Many of the great lower caste leaders like Mahatma Jyotibha Phule or Periyar stressed English education for the downtrodden to help them improve their lives and overcome upper caste domination. That is why in Maharastra region of India, the English language was called “Waghine che doodh” by villagers in rural regions, that is “Milk of the Tigress”.
    You Marxists try to impose your abnormal Marxist viewpoint on reality and often miss the complexity of things. In this you are remarkably similar to Hindu nationalists.

    The reverse phenomenon happens in the “colonial” countries where the inability to speak the language of the colonial master marks one for disdain. That is why we get incidences like American Karens screaming at Latino people to “speak English”

    God this is really retarded. Anglo Americans are not colonial masters of Latinos. Indeed one could say, Latinos are colonising the USA. The whole concept of Karens screaming “speak English” is encouraging integration into American culture, like with many other immigrants back in the past.

    was no different from learning Urdu during the Muslim conquests in the 1200s

    LOL, Urdu was not the dominant language in India during the 1200s. Indeed, the British played a big part in developing Urdu in the 1800s. In 1837, Urdu became an official language in India for the first time, during the time of the British Empire (East India Company period), because it was the language of the Muslim elite (such as Nawabs and Zamindars). Yes, the Urdu of your Pakistani sepoys.

    This is the opposite from what happened in China, where the Han absorbed their conquerors and turned them Chinese.

    Not as simple as that. The Han accepted the rule of the conqueror, either Mongol or Manchu by the simple fact that they conquered political power. Yes there were revolts by Han but you see similar revolts by Indians. Like the Maratha Hindu Empire began as a revolt by a Hindu King in the West. It started as a revolt against Mughal barbarity, and eventually the Maratha Empire ended up de facto ruling a good chunk of the Indian subcontinent. During the 8 nation expedition against the Qing Emperor, the Emperor thought that these “barbarians” (including the Russians BTW) would now become the next dynasty post Qing after conquering the capital. That was the Chinese way. The fact that they gave back power to the Qing Emperors with only an indemnity was very surprising to him.
    As far as absorbing their conquerors, India did it with the pre-Islamic invaders from Central Asia, like the Kushans, White Hun, Scythians etc…

    The Dravidians accepted the same religions and scriptures of their conquerors.

    The Aryan Dravidian thing cannot be equated to say the Mughal conquerors or the British etc… because the Aryans are one of the foundation populations of the Indian subcontinent. The Aryans were as much “Indian” as the Dravidian, simply because the concept of Bharatvarsha or a conception of us being Indians comes only after the Aryans and before other conquerors.

    attached an article entitled “How China lost India forever”. I believe it was written some decades back.I did not bother to read it

    That is the exact mistake. Without that post one cannot understand Indo-China relations. Of course it is not flattering to China and rightfully so. China’s backstab against a friendly anti-West India has made it impossible that India will even become a Chinese ally. Extreme stupidity of the Chinese elites, they did not realize the long term result of their stupid actions.

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  197. Malla says:
    @littlereddot

    My prediction is that as China rises and becomes much more affluent and resumes a position of prestige. India will become sycophantic to China then

    This explains the exact stupidity of the Chinese mind and shows more about the Chinese mentality rather than the Indian mentality. China just cannot get over its Middle Kingdom madness, even though such a system is impossible in the modern World where China’s neighbours are so nationalistic. Just like the Islamic Dhimmi system will not be easy to reinstall in the modern World (as against the feudal world) because non-Muslims of the modern age will not easily accept second class status anymore like how they did back in the past.
    China has this foolish belief, a belief which will lead to its downfall that once China becomes strong, it can dictate anything it wants to its neighbours and the World. Sadly, the Indians have a similar mentality too. It can steal islands from the Philippines and not expect a nationalist Philippines to go closure to the USA as a result. The fact that its neighbours are not kowtowing to China even after its rise not only confuses China but also makes them mad. “We are strong, why do they not obey us.” What a bunch of retards. By that logic, the North Vietnamese would not fight back with the Americans, as the USA was a superpower. The Afghan Mujahedeen would not have fought against the Red Army as the USSR was a superpower. The Afghan Taliban would not have fought against the American and other NATO forces, as the USA is a superpower. Examples abound that this dumb theory that the Chinese have built up in their head, does not work in reality. India will never kowtow to China because of the backstab of 1962. It is not happening again. Being pro-China and anti-America, we have done it in the past, with China paying with a backstab. That is why you need to see that video, you ignored.

    Indians have a similar mentality too. When foreigners criticize India, for dirty streets, poo etc… many Indian Nationalists comment, “that when we become a superopower, these foreigners will not dare criticize us”. What retards!!! No, they still will if there are things to criticize, some criticisms will be valid, some invalid. The USA has been a superpower for last few decades after the fall of the USSR, in nearly all spectrums. Great economy, Great technology, Great Military power, Great in sports, in Olympic medals. But non-Americans still make fun of Americans that they are fat and trigger happy gun loving hicks. How did being superpawa stop criticism from foreigners? Similarly Indians are pissed why so many of our “beloved little brothers” like Bhutan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Maldives are going over to China. Indian Nationalist hotheads fart out that, “There is not generous and kind nation on earth and in human history as India, they are surely affected by the false glamour and shine of cunning China who is using divide and dominate in our region, fooling naive little brothers against gentle and generous Big brother, India. When India becomes a superpawa they will listen to everything we tell them”. LOL. No they won’t. Both Canadians and Mexicans have an anti-American streak in their national conscious even if USA is superpawa. Russia is a major power but that does not stop Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians, Poles, Ukrainians etc…being anti-Russia. China is a major power, close to being a superpower, but it does not mean Filipinos, South Koreans, Mongols, Vietnamese etc…are sycophantic to China. Same with India too.

    just as they are sycophantic to the US now

    India is not sycophantic to the USA. Modi might be for now because his good friend’s Adani’s ass is stuck up in a U.S. court. Once Adani goes free, India will start becoming the independent asshole it normally is to the USA. India needs an American alliance only because of China, I guess it is same with the Philippines. There is also this belief in India, which is quite correct that, the USA helped the rise of the USSR as a thank you for helping to bring down their common enemy Germany. Similarly, the USA helped in the rise of P.R. China as a thank you for helping to bring down their common enemy, the USSR. Since, China is already the enemy of India as well as the USA, why not make such an alliance with the USA, just like how the Soviets made with them against Germany and Communist China made with them against the USSR in turn.

    • LOL: littlereddot
  198. Malla says:
    @迪路

    Well, the actual situation might be a little hurtful….blah blah…China iz super-duper pawa…India clown..

    Sure mate, but no country wants to divide its forces and fight a two front war.

    Is it possible that you were actually Japan in World War II… ?

    More like China is Germany of WW1. A rising industrial manufacturing power (Germany-China) facing a dominant maritime power (Britain-USA) with another rising power on the other side (Russia-India). Chinese BRI reminds one of Germany’s Berlin to Baghdad railways.

    Imagine, just for fun, if India loses and has a Communist Revolution, out of national anger and China loses too later and ends up with a Chinese Hitler, out of national anger. LOL.

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  199. Malla says:
    @Owlistic

    You’re not even trying to respond in any intelligent way, you want to fill your response up with words but they make no sense

    You too stupid to understand muh comments?
    My advice: Do not let your disability hold you back. Hardwork and perseverance and repeated reading will give you success in you endeavour.
    But it is likely you did not understand my advice as well!!! Oh well, I tried.

    Jesus English arriving in India talk is just painful, I am feeling the pain on your behalf

    It was painful for a group of Brits too. Those Brits were called Orientalists. And since you are a leftist, you should be supporting English in India. Why? Because English in India was pushed by the radicals/ leftists of that period. How so? Let us get educated.
    The British were divided among themselves in between the Orientalists and the Liberals (whigs) camp. The Orientalist British opposed the spread of English (as well as Western education in India. They wanted India to continue its traditional education system of Hindu pathshalas and Islamic Madrasas. They felt that, that is the best for India, its own traditional education system. If that would be the case India would be a nation of Hindu Taliban and Muslim Taliban today. Thank God they lost out.
    The opposite side were the radical liberals (Whigs) who believed that denying Indians a modern scientific education would be criminal and English education would liberate Indians from traditional superstitious life to a life of modern liberty. This was pushed by abolitionists (slavery) like Lord Macaulay. For Macaulay in 1833, the issue was between “stagnation and progress”, between the “mentality of despotism and that of liberty”; and he could not hesitate between them. “England should bestow the most precious treasure of her heritage, the living conscious spirit of her civilization, upon India”. Modern English Education. He was not indifferent to the possibility that this might lead India to demand political freedom. “If it did”, said Macaulay, that would be “the proudest day in English history.” That was what this great Whig historian had declared to the House of Commons and apparently so many of his compatriots were of the same mind that few saw anything startling in such a prophecy! Macaulay is hated by hardcore Hinduvadis today, the same guys who want Muslims cleansed from India. But Macaulay also wanted traditional Indian knowledge preserved and supported the College in Calcutta to preserve ancient Indian learning in Sanskrit, Prakrit etc…

    Today Hindu Nationalists (like you, you are 80% Hindu Nationalist in mentality and beliefs LOL) HATE HATE HATE Macauley, they sneer at and call the English-speaking Indians as Macauley-Putras or the children of Macaulay.

    Sir Valentine Chirol writes in his book “Indian Unrest”
    “The course and consequences of the measures taken by the British Government to promote Western education in India has been attentively studied by the author of this volume. It is a story of grave political miscalculation, containing a lesson that has its significance for other nations which have undertaken a similar enterprise. Ignorance is unquestionably the root of many evils; and it was natural that in the last century certain philosophers should have assumed education to be the certain cure for human delusions; and that statesmen like Macaulay should have declared education to be the best and surest remedy for political discontent and for law-breaking. In any case it was the clear and imperative duty of the British Government to attempt the intellectual emancipation of India as the best justification of British rule. We have since discovered, by experience, that, although education is a sovereign remedy for many ills—is indeed indispensable to healthy progress—yet an indiscriminate or superficial administration of this potent medicine may engender other disorders. It acts upon the frame of an antique society as a powerful dissolvent, heating weak brains, stimulating rash ambitions, raising inordinate expectations of which the disappointment is bitterly resented. That these effects are well known even in Europe may be read in a remarkable French novel published not long ago, “Les Déracinés,” which, describes the road to ruin taken by poor collegians who had been uprooted from the soil of their humble village. And in Asia the disease is necessarily much more virulent, because the transition has been more sudden, and the contrast between old ideas of life and new aspirations is far sharper. From the report of an able French official upon the Indo-Chinese Colonies we may learn that the existing system of educating the natives has proved to be mischievous, needing radical reform. Of the Levantine youths in the Syrian towns, the product of European schools, a French traveller writes (1909), “C’est une tourbe de déclassés”; while in China some leaders of agitation for democratic changes in the oldest of all Empires are said to be those who have qualified by competitive examination for public employ, and have failed to obtain it. In every country the crowd of expectants far outnumbers the places available. If, indeed, the Government which introduced Western education into Bengal had been native instead of foreign, it would have found itself entangled in difficulties no less grave than those which now confront the British rulers; and there can be little doubt that it would probably have broken down under them.”
    He further writes
    “Some Englishmen to-day contend that the introduction of Western education was a crucial blunder to which alone we owe the growth of Indian unrest and Indian Nationalism and the Swaraj movement and every other manifestation of Indian discontent. They are men of little faith, and not by such was British rule built up in India. But it may be conceded that many of the warmest advocates, the British pioneers of Western education, did not and could not foresee all the fruits that it would yield. But none also was more willing to look the consequences in the face should Western education train up an Indian nation capable of ruling itself. If that was a contingency with which we have to reckon, he, for one, could contemplate it without dismay, for then England’s mission in India would be gloriously consummated, and she would hand back to the people of India the control of her destinies with legitimate pride in an unparalleled achievement.”

    https://openthemagazine.com/essay/did-britain-educate-india/
    Did Britain Educate India? Empire of the mind by Zareer Masani

    Back in London, the East India Company’s directors expressed concern that the spread of Western education might encourage a spirit of rebellion among their Indian subjects. But their new Governor-General, Lord Hastings, (no relation to Warren Hastings) replied: “It would be treason to British sentiment to imagine that it could ever be the principle of this Government to perpetuate ignorance in order to secure paltry and dishonest advantages over the blindness of the multitude.” His illustrious deputy in Bombay, Mountstuart Elphinstone, went further in proclaiming education as the stepping-stone to India’s independence and ‘our high road back to Europe’. The Raj, he argued, must sow the seeds of its own dissolution. ‘It is for our interest,’ Elphinstone wrote, ‘to have an early separation from a civilised people, rather than a violent rupture with a barbarous nation.’ Under his leadership, the Bombay Native Education Society published thousands of new school textbooks, many in local languages, opened several new schools, started classes in medicine and engineering and founded the prestigious Elphinstone College, one of the best in Mumbai even today.

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  200. Malla says:
    @Commentator Mike

    A lot of people such as Jews and Brahmins use this same technique. Funny that all three are locked in conflict with each other.

  201. @Malla

    Gotta say Malla, I quite like you. You have the strength of character to clearly state you are Indian, and I respect that.

    So I give you a Pro tip:

    If you want to impress a Chinese person with an argument, you have to be succinct.

    Verbosity has the opposite effect on them.

    Less is more.

    • LOL: Owlistic
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  202. 迪路 says:
    @Malla

    It’s a bit hard to say.
    What do you think of the Communist Party of India?

  203. Owlistic says:
    @Malla

    What away to validate the notion that there is a propensity for you guys to value form, and waffle over substance

    you mentioned a word…. orientalism

    Why?

    Orientalism was written by a Palestinian Christian, as an advocate of Palestinian statehood and rights, explaining how Islam has been adversely essentialized by the west over history

    It is so typical, for an Indian who calls Muslims as “Muzzies” to just help himself to any idea going, just to obscure and deflect

    Orientalism was not written for Indian and hindu natinalists to lean into when it suits.

    And then when it suits start throwing around the word “Muzzies” and other derogatory comments

    Why don’t you lean into your own civilizational teachings, perhaps?

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  204. Malla says:
    @littlereddot

    You have the strength of character to clearly state you are Indian, and I respect that.

    Thank you. Well, I am an Indian.

    If you want to impress a Chinese person with an argument, you have to be succinct.

    Thank you for the advice but in that comment, I had to copy paste entire sections of a book, “Indian Unrest” by Valentine Chirol and an article by Zaheer Masani.

  205. Malla says:
    @Owlistic

    Orientalism was written by a Palestinian Christian

    Oh, yes, Edward Said. He was cribbing that the West looks at us as an “other”. Wah Wah. Crying. But the Arab World looks at the West as an “other” too. Every civilization does that to everybody else. The Word Orientalist was common before Said wrote his book/ thesis. Sadly, every civilization stereotypes the other. It is not an unique Western trait. Frankly speaking, the Western World has been very kind in their writings about other cultures during the Colonial period, I have read many books by Brits, French etc… from that era. I will go on to say that they even hyped up non-White civilizations. James Mill complained in his book that British Indologists were hyping up the achievements of ancient India just like their rivals British Egyptologists etc.. because every European identified with the civilization they were studying with their personal ego, and there was a competition among Europeans to hype up the achievements of the non-White Civilization they were studying.

    It is so typical, for an Indian who calls Muslims as “Muzzies” t

    Who spread the “pajeet” meme around on the Internet? Pakistanis and Bangladeshis which was later picked up by White nationalists. Muslims regularly call us “Bhootparast” (lowly idol worshippers) and Lindus. We (Hindus/Sikhs etc..) normally use the word “kutwa” against them, because of circumcission. Kutwa means “cut up” (circumcised prick) from the Hindi/Urdu term “KATNA” which means “to cut”.

    And then when it suits start throwing around the word “Muzzies” and other derogatory comments

    Everybody does that in the Third World. We Third Worlders do not care about Western pussy Political Correctness. Even Balkan Europeans like Albanians and Serbs and Croats and Bosnians make fun of Western Whites (they call them Westoids) for being so pussy with all their political correctness and shit. You should check out their reddit (r/balkans or something).
    Western leftists imagine that the typical Third Worlder thinks like them, nothing could be more wrong. Average Third Worlders were 180 deg opposite to the typical Western Leftist. Indeed the Colonial Whites had many modern Western leftist tendencies, believe it or not. The White Man’s burden to improve the darkies. All that Bullshit.

    Why don’t you lean into your own civilizational teachings, perhaps?

    Sometimes I do.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
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  206. Owlistic says:
    @Malla

    Another words, you will borrow a little bit here, a little bit there, and try and create a patchwork mosaic of coherence

    What exactly then, do you disagree with me about?

    I am describing your behavior, and you are obliging to show I’m right

  207. Malla says:

    ttle bit there, and try and create a patchwork mosaic of coherence

    Word of advice mate: Do not overload your tiny brain.
    But I guess it will take you a long time to piece the advice together and see some coherence in it. Maybe too late by then, irreparable damage. Ah well, I tried.

    What exactly then, do you disagree with me about?

    Depends, what do you disagree with me about? What are you exactly trying to push? What agenda, I mean?

    I am describing your behavior, and you are obliging to show I’m right

    Thou shalt write thy own imaginary plays, thou shalt live in thy own imaginary world, thous shalt see what thou wishes to see.

    • LOL: Owlistic
  208. @Owlistic

    How does the loathsome troll get so very many increasingly prolix comments? And surely he mus be paid by the word. The compradore is a truly nauseating specimen.

    • LOL: Owlistic
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