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Israel as serial murderer

In the 1990s, a couple of bestsellers brought to the knowledge of a large public the fact that JFK’s assassination in 1963 solved an intense crisis over Israel’s secret nuclear program. In one of his last letters to Kennedy, quoted by Seymour Hersh in The Samson Option (1991), Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion complained: “Mr. President, my people have the right to exist […] and this existence is in danger.”[1]Seymour Hersh, The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy, Random House, 1991, p. 141. The nuclear option was judged vital for Israel, and JFK opposed it. A Haaretz review of Avner Cohen’s book Israel and the Bomb (1998) puts it this way:

“The murder of American President John F. Kennedy brought to an abrupt end the massive pressure being applied by the US administration on the government of Israel to discontinue the nuclear program. Cohen demonstrates at length the pressures applied by Kennedy on Ben-Gurion. […] The book implied that, had Kennedy remained alive, it is doubtful whether Israel would today have a nuclear option.”[2]Haaretz, February 5, 1999, quoted in Michael Collins Piper, False Flags: Template for Terror, American Free Press, 2013, pp. 54–55.

Also openly discussed by Israeli historians today are the close connections between Ben-Gurion’s network in the U.S. and what Tel-Aviv professor Robert Rockaway calls “Gangsters for Zion”, including the infamous “Murder, Incorporated”, run by Bugsy Siegel and then by Mickey Cohen, Jack Ruby’s mentor.

That Israel had the motive and the means of killing JFK does not prove that Israel did it. But I am quite certain that today, most smart Israelis assume and half-approve that Ben-Gurion ordered the elimination of JFK in order to replace him by Lyndon Johnson, whose love for Israel is also now widely celebrated, to the point that some speculate he might have been a secret Jew.

In Ben-Gurion’s mind, making Israel a nuclear state was a matter of life and death, and obliterating any obstacle was an absolute necessity. In Netanyahu’s mind today, preventing Iran—or any other enemy of Israel—from becoming a nuclear state is of the same order of necessity, and would surely justify eliminating another U.S. president in order to replace him by a more supportive Vice President. Most dedicated Zionists understand that. Andrew Adler, owner and editor in chief of The Atlanta Jewish Times, assumes that the idea “has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circle,” and, in his column of January 13, 2012, called on the Israeli Prime Minister to

“give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current Vice-President to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish State obliterate its enemies. […] Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence.”[3]Joe Sterling, “Jewish paper’s column catches Secret Service’s eye,” CNN, January 22, 2012.

Eliminating unsubmissive foreign leaders is part of Israel’s struggle for existence. Besides, it is entirely biblical: foreign kings are supposed to “lick the dust at [Israelis’] feet” (Isaiah 49:23), or perish, with their names “blotted out under heaven” (Deuteronomy 7:24).

On November 6, 1944, members of the Stern Gang, led by future Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, assassinated Lord Moyne, the British resident minister in the Middle East, for his anti-Zionist positions. The bodies of his murderers, executed in Egypt, were later exchanged for twenty Arab prisoners and buried at the “Monument of Heroes” in Jerusalem. On September 17, 1948, the same terrorist group murdered in Jerusalem Count Folke Bernadotte, a Swedish diplomat appointed as United Nations mediator in Palestine. He had just submitted his report A/648, which described “large-scale Zionist plundering and destruction of villages,” and called for the “return of the Arab refugees rooted in this land for centuries.” His assassin, Nathan Friedman-Yellin, was arrested, convicted, and then amnestied; in 1960 he was elected to the Knesset.[4]Alan Hart, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, vol. 2: David Becomes Goliath, Clarity Press, 2013, p. 90.

In 1946, three months after members of the Irgun, led by future Prime Minister Menachem Begin, killed ninety-one people in the headquarter of the British Mandate’s administration (King David Hotel), the same terrorist group attempted to murder British Prime Minister Clement Attlee and Foreign Secretary Ernest Bevin, according to British Intelligence documents declassified in 2006.

These killings and more are documented by Israeli journalist Ronen Bergman in Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations (Random House, 2018). Bergman writes:

“At the end of 1947, a report to the British high commissioner tallied the casualties of the previous two years: 176 British Mandate personnel and civilians killed. / ‘Only these actions, these executions, caused the British to leave,’ David Shomron said, decades after he shot Tom Wilkin dead on a Jerusalem street. ‘If [Avraham] Stern had not begun the war, the State of Israel would not have come into being.’”[5]Ronen Bergman, Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations, Random House, 2018, p. 20.

James Forrestal’s strange death

Absent from Israel’s body count in Bergman’s book is former U.S. Secretary of Defense James Forrestal, assassinated eight months after Count Bernadotte. Forrestal had been Roosevelt’s Secretary of the Navy from April 1944. With consolidation of the armed services under Truman in 1947, he became the first Secretary of Defense. He opposed the United Nations’ vote to partition Palestine, and protested vigorously against U.S. recognition of Israel on May 15, 1948, on the ground that U.S. interests in the Middle East would be seriously jeopardized by American sponsorship of a Jewish state. For this, Forrestal received “an outpouring of slander and calumny that must surely be judged one of the most shameful intervals in American journalism,” in the words of Robert Lovett, then Under Secretary of State. Truman replaced Forrestal on March 28, 1949—shortly after his reelection—by the man who had been his main fundraiser, Louis Johnson. According to the received story, Forrestal, who was psychologically exhausted, fell into depression immediately. On April 2, 1949, he was interned against his will in the military hospital of the Navy in Bethesda, Maryland, a Washington, DC, suburb, where he was forcibly confined for seven weeks. He fell to his death from the 16th floor at 1:50 in the morning of May 22, 1949, landing on the roof of the third floor. He had a dressing-gown sash tied around his neck.

Bethesda Navy Hospital, where Forrestal met his death
Bethesda Navy Hospital, where Forrestal met his death

National authorities and mainstream media immediately labeled his death a suicide, without any known criminal investigation. A review board was appointed on May 23, headed by Admiral Morton Willcutts, to conduct hearings of members of the hospital staff with the sole purpose of exonerating everyone of responsibility in Forrestal’s assumed suicide. The board completed its work in one week, and published a short press release four months later. But the full report, containing the transcripts of all hearings an crucial exhibits, were kept secret for 55 years, until David Martin obtained it through a Freedom of Information Act request in April 2004 (it is now available on the Princeton University Library website in pdf form, or here in HTML rendition by the anonymous Mark Hunter, who makes useful comments).

In his book and in his web articles complementing it, David Martin makes a compelling case that Forrestal was murdered, and that his murder was ordered by the Zionists, most probably with the knowledge and approval of Truman, who was then completely hostage to the Zionists. The motive? Forrestal was planning to write a book and to launch a national magazine: he had the money and the connections for it, and he had three thousand pages of personal diary to back his revelations on the corruption of American leadership and the sell-out of American foreign policy to communism under Roosevelt, and to Zionism under Truman.

I will here summarize the evidence accumulated by David Martin, and highlight the significance of this case for our understanding of Israel’s takeover of the heart, soul, and body of the United States. Unless specified otherwise, all information is from Martin’s book or articles.

From James Forrestal to John Kennedy

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My own interest for this heartbreaking story stems from my interest for the Kennedy assassinations. (read my article “Did Israel Kill the Kennedys?”). I found the connection and similarities between the two stories highly illuminating. Everyone knows that Kennedy was assassinated, yet most Americans are still unaware of the evidence incriminating Israel. In the case of Forrestal, it is the opposite: few people suspect a murder, but once the evidence for murder has been presented, it points directly to Israel as the culprit. For this reason, Forrestal’s assassination by the Zionists becomes a precedent that makes JFK’s assassination by the same collective entity more plausible. If Israel can kill a former U.S. Defense Secretary on American soil in 1949 and get away with it with government and media complicity, then why not a sitting President fifteen years later? If the truth on Forrestal had been known by 1963, it is unlikely that Israel could have killed two Kennedys with impunity.

Forrestal was of Irish Catholic origin like the Kennedys, and was close to JFK’s father. Both James Forrestal and Joseph Kennedy are examples of American patriots of Irish stock who were alarmed by Jewish influence over American foreign policy. The entry for 27 December 1945 in Forrestal’s edited diary, says:

“Played golf with Joe Kennedy. I asked him about his conversations with Roosevelt and Neville Chamberlain from 1938 on. […] Chamberlain, he says, stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war.”

One major difference between the two men is that Joe Kennedy had resigned from government after Roosevelt’s entry into the war, and had kept a low profile on Israel. Moreover, unlike Forrestal, he was the head of a wealthy clan and had his own men in the press. He was a politician, whereas Forrestal was an uncompromising man. These differences explain why Forrestal was assassinated, whereas Joe had his son elected president. Yet in the end, the Kennedys suffered the Talmudic curse over three generations.

When James Forrestal, hostile to Stalin’s ambitions on Eastern Europe and to Truman’s decision to nuke Japan, was kept away from the official delegation to the Potsdam Conference in the summer 1945, he flew there privately and took with him the then 28-year-old John Kennedy, for a tour of post-war Germany. Later on, John integrated James Forrestal’s son Michael Forrestal as a member of his National Security Council. In May 1963 he made a symbolic public gesture by visiting the grave of James Forrestal on Memorial Day.

JFK visits Forrestal’s grave at Arlington cemetery
JFK visits Forrestal’s grave at Arlington cemetery

James Forrestal’s and John Kennedy’s assassinations bear one sinister thing in common: Bethesda Naval Hospital. As most readers recall, this is where Kennedy’s autopsy was tampered with after his body had been whisked away at gunpoint from Dallas Parkland Hospital, most probably by Secret Service agents on Lyndon Johnson’s order. In 1963, Lyndon Johnson could count on high-level complicity within the Navy.

It happens that Johnson, whom Billy Sole Estes claims ordered nine murders in the course of his political career,[6]William Reymond and Billie Sol Estes, JFK Le Dernier Témoin, Flammarion, 2003. makes a special appearance, although brief and poorly documented, in the story of Forrestal’s assassination. LBJ was then a newly elected congressman, on the payroll of Abraham Feinberg, former president of Americans for Haganah Incorporated and financial godfather of Israel’s atomic bomb.[7]Alan Hart, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, vol. 2: David Becomes Goliath, Clarity Press, 2013, p. 250. According to the testimony of Forrestal’s assistant Marx Leva (more on him later), Johnson paid an unwanted visit to Forrestal at Bethesda Hospital. David Martin asks:

“Could LBJ have been playing something of a foot-soldier role for the orchestrators of Forrestal’s demise? Might he have been there to size up the overall situation, and at the same time contribute to ‘making his bones,’ as it were, by participating in such an important operation?” (Martin p. 20)

The official narrative

It bears repeating that no investigation was conducted into the death of James Forrestal, either by the FBI or the NCIS (Navy Criminal Investigative Service). The very day of his death, the mainstream press announced his suicide as a matter of fact. The New York Times stated in its late May 22 edition that Forrestal “jumped thirteen stories to his death,” and added the next morning:

“There were indications that Mr. Forrestal might also have tried to hang himself. The sash of his dressing-gown was still knotted and wrapped tightly around his neck when he was found, but hospital officials would not speculate as to its possible purpose.”

Later biographers did speculate that he may have tried to hang himself but failed to tie the sash securely to the radiator beneath the window. In The Man Who Kept the Secrets, Pulitzer Price winner Thomas Powers says that Forrestal died trying to hang himself “from his hospital window, but slipped and fell sixteen stories to his death.”

Forrestal left no suicide note, but the New York Times (May 23) informs its readers that:

“A book of poetry beside his bed was opened to a passage from the Greek tragedian, Sophocles, telling of the comfort of death. […] Mr. Forrestal had copied most of the Sophocles poem from the book on hospital memo paper, but he had apparently been interrupted in his efforts. His copying stopped after he had written ‘night’ of the word ‘nightingale’ in the twenty-sixth line of the poem.”

On May 24, the New York Times gave the final word to the psychiatrist in charge, who made suicide sound predictable:

“Captain George M. Raines, the Navy psychiatrist who had been treating Mr. Forrestal, said that the former Secretary ended his life in a sudden fit of despondency. He said this was ‘extremely common’ to the patient’s severe type of mental illness.”

That’s it. Never did the mainstream media hint at the possibility of foul play. The conclusion that Forrestal’s death is an obvious suicide caused by his “mental illness” was taken at face value by the authors of Forrestal’s two main biographies:

  • Arnold Rogow, James Forrestal, A Study of Personality, Politics, and Policy (MacMillan Company, 1963);
  • Townsend Hoopes and Douglass Brinkley, Driven Patriot, the Life and Times of James Forrestal (Alfred A. Knopf, 2003).

Rogow, whose book has been called a “psychological autopsy,” insists on linking Forrestal’s alleged mental illness to his alleged anti-Semitism, with the implication that anti-Semitism is a form of paranoia that may lead to suicide. Rogow is an expert on the subject of anti-Semitism, on which he wrote the article for The International Encyclopedia of Social Science. He is also the author The Jew in a Gentile World: An Anthology of Writings about Jews by Non-Jews.

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Hoopes and Brinkley borrow heavily from Rogow, but add valuable information based on their own interviews. They give an interesting interpretation of the morbid poem allegedly copied by Forrestal from Mark Van Dorren’s Anthology of World Poetry, titled “The Chorus from Ajax.” Taking their clue from Zionist apologist John Loftus, author of The Belarus Secret (Alfred A. Knopf, 1982), they speculate that, when reaching the word “nightingale” in the poem, Forrestal might have been overwhelmed by a sudden rush of guilt for having authorized a CIA operation with the code name of “Nightingale,” that infiltrated into the Soviet Union Ukrainian spies who had been formerly Nazi collaborators and probably killers of Jews. The word “nightingale,” Hoopes and Brinkley surmise, must have triggered Forrestal’s urge to take the poet’s admonition literally and end his life on the spot.

Was Forrestal mentally ill?

David Martin has uncovered grave inconsistencies and outright lies in the official story. First, it appears that Forrestal’s nervous breakdown has been wildly exaggerated, if not totally invented. As the story goes, Forrestal’s mental health had started deteriorating before Truman replaced him, and collapsed on March 29, just after a brief ceremony in his honor at Capitol Hill. The main source for this story is an Oral history interview of Marx Leva, Forrestal’s special assistant at that time, recorded for the Truman library in 1969. Leva says that, on that day, he found Forrestal in his Pentagon office, “almost in a coma.” He had him driven home and later met him there with Forrestal’s friend Ferdinand Eberstadt, and the two men decided that Forrestal’s state required that he urgently take some vacation. So Leva made immediate arrangement for a Marine plane to fly him to the estate of Robert Lovett in Hobe Sound, Florida that very night. “And on the way out Forrestal said three times, the only thing he said, [Eberstadt] tried to speak to him and he would say, ‘You’re a loyal fellow, Marx.’ ‘You’re a loyal fellow, Marx,’ three times.” Since Leva is Jewish, the implication is that Forrestal was obsessed by the disloyalty he attributed to many Jewish officials. For Leva, “he apparently was beyond being neurotic, I mean it was apparently paranoid”.

David Martin shows in this article (adding a new perspective to his book) that Marx Leva is lying. Forrestal’s vacation had in fact been planned in advance, and his wife was already waiting for him there. This is proven by a Jacksonville Daily Journal article dated March 28 about the ceremony when Truman pinned the Distinguished Service Medal on Forrestal’s chest that very day. The article concludes: “Forrestal is flying tomorrow to Hobe Sound, Fla., for a long rest.” This video clip of Forrestal shows him perfectly healthy and composed on March 28.

News reports and biographies insist that, during his four-day stay at Hobe Sound, Forrestal showed signs of paranoia. One rumor, made up by Daniel Yergin and repeated by Thomas Powers in The Man Who Kept the Secrets, has him running through the streets yelling, “The Russians are coming.” There is no credible source for this claim. Under Secretary of State (and future Defense Secretary) Robert Lovett, who was at Hobe Sound with Forrestal, did say in 1974 that Forrestal appeared to him as “not of sound mind,” because “he was obsessed with the idea that his phone calls were being bugged,” and complained that “they’re really after me.” I find rather strange, though, that Lovett feigns to ignore who Forrestal meant by “they”. There is nothing irrational in Forrestal’s belief that “his telephones were being bugged, [and that] his house was being watched”, as he had earlier complained to Truman’s appointments secretary, Matthew J. Connelly (who said so in a 1968 interview by the Truman Library).

There is also a rumor that Forrestal attempted suicide at Hobe Sound. It is contradicted by the Willcutts report, where Dr. George Raines, the psychiatrist in charge of Forrestal at Bethesda, is recorded stating: “So far as I know he never made a single real attempt at suicide except that one that was successful.” All of Forrestal’s doctors interviewed are unanimous that he had never attempted suicide before his fatal fall.

That is not to say that Forrestal was not psychologically strained in 1949. As Secretary of Defense, he had been subjected not only to slander and calumny by the press, but also to anonymous death threats. Robert Lovett, who shared Forrestal’s views on Israel, testified that he himself received night phone calls with death threats, and that Forrestal was more exposed than him to this kind of treatment. Having lost all protection from the government after March 28, Forrestal had reasons to fear for his life. On May 23, 1949, The Washington Post concluded an article headlined “Delusions of Persecution, Acute Anxiety, Depression Marked Forrestal’s Illness,” with the somewhat paradoxical statement:

“His fear of reprisals from pro-Zionists was said to stem from attacks by some columnists on what they said was his opposition to partition of Palestine under a UN mandate. In his last year as Defense Secretary, he received great numbers of abusive and threatening letters.”

John Loftus and Mark Aarons, the arch-Zionist authors of The Secret War against the Jews, identify Forrestal as “the principal villain, the man who nearly succeeded in preventing Israel’s birth.” They reveal that “The Zionists had tried unsuccessfully to blackmail Forrestal with tape recordings of his own deals with the Nazis” (before the war, Forrestal had been a partner of Clarence Dillon, the Jewish founder of the banking firm Dillon, Read, and Co.), but they believe that Zionist harassment at least succeeded in making him insane: “His paranoia convinced him that his every word was bugged. / To his many critics, it seemed that James Forrestal’s anti-Jewish obsession had finally conquered him.”[8]John Loftus and Mark Aarons, The Secret War against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed The Jewish People, St. Martin’s Griffin, 2017 , p. 212-213.

How convenient to claim that anti-Semitism may lead to suicide. When the Zionist mafia wishes you dead, fearing for your life is not a sign of mental illness, but rather of sound judgment.

We need not doubt Raines’ words to the Willcutts Review Board that, when he first saw Forrestal at Bethesda Hospital, “he was obviously exhausted physically” and showed “high blood pressure.” But here, we also have to take into account that Forrestal had been literally abducted from his vacation center at Hobe Sound. We should not be surprised when Rogow, and Hoopes and Brinkley after him, tell us that, even though he had been sedated, Forrestal “was in a state of extreme agitation during the flight from Florida,” and that:

“Forrestal’s agitation increased during the trip in a private car from the airfield to the hospital. He made several attempts to leave the car while it was in motion, and had to be forcibly restrained. Arriving at Bethesda, he declared that he did not expect to leave the hospital alive.”

As Martin mentions, there is also the very real possibility that Forrestal had been drugged at Hobe Sound, in order to make him appear insane and justify his internment.

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Forrestal’s behavior at Bethesda shows nothing abnormal for a man locked up in the psychiatric division of a military hospital, on the 16th floor, for reasons he feared were not strictly medical. It has been reported by medical personnel that Forrestal often seemed restless, walking back and forth in his room late at night. Why wouldn’t he? Forrestal was even denied visits by those dearest to him. His brother Henry had tried several times to visit him, but had been rebuffed by Dr. Raines. The hospital authorities relented only after Henry threatened legal action. Forrestal was also denied the visit of his friend the Catholic priest, Monsignor Maurice Sheehy. Sheehy wrote in The Catholic Digest, January 1951, that, “The day he was admitted to the hospital, Forrestal told Dr. Raines he wish to see me,” but that Dr. Raines told him “that Jim was so confused I should wait some days before seeing him.” Raines turned away Father Sheehy on six occasions.

Despite being kept in virtual imprisonment and under forced medication, Forrestal endured remarkably well. From the hearings conducted by the Willcutts Review Boards, it appears that he was doing fine, in the days preceding his death. Willcutts himself expressed surprise at learning about his death, because he had dinner with him one day earlier (Friday the 20th), and thought he was “getting along splendidly.”

Evidence of cover-up and the fake suicide note

As mentioned earlier, the Willcutts Review Board’s mission was to exonerate every single individual of negligence. Even the brief conclusions released four months after it concluded its hearings, admits so, as reported in the New York Times October 12, 1949:

“Francis P. Matthews, Secretary of the Navy, made public today the report of an investigating board absolving all individuals of blame in the death of James Forrestal last May 22.”

Strangely enough, as Martin discovered, the report states that Forrestal’s fall was the cause of his death, but avoids any statement about the cause of the fall itself.

There is an obvious lack of interest from the Willcutts Board regarding all elements that point to murder rather than to suicide. The nurse who first entered Forrestal’s room after his death testified that there was broken glass on his bed. But the room must have been laundered before the crime scene photographs were taken, because they show the bed with nothing but a bare mattress, while another picture shows broken glass on the carpet at the foot of his bed (photos available on Mark Hunter’s site). The Willcutts Board had no interest in finding the origin of the broken glass, nor the reason it was removed from the bed.

They also failed to ask the personnel or themselves any relevant questions about the gown sash tied around Forrestal’s neck. Hoopes and Brinkley later speculated that Forrestal tied the sash to a radiator beneath the window, but that his knot “gave way.” That is contradicted by hospitalman William Eliades, who found the body of Forrestal with the sash (cord) around his neck, and declared to the Willcutts Review Board: “I looked to see whether he had tried to hang himself and whether a piece of cord had broken off. It was still in one piece except it was tied around his neck.”

But the most compelling proof that Forrestal’s death has been disguised as a suicide is the poem allegedly copied by Forrestal. Among the exhibits obtained by Martin alongside the Willcutts report is a copy of the memo sheet with the transcription of the poem (here). A comparison with any handwritten note by Forrestal makes it plain that it was not copied by Forrestal (both can be found on Mark Hunter’s webpage).


A sample of Forrestal’s handwriting and the note supposedly found in his room

As Martin comments, “One hardly needs an expert to tell him that the person who transcribed the poem is not the same person who wrote the various letters there.” Martin also notes that, from this single page, it is doubtful that the writer, whoever he was, even reached the word “nightingale”, which appears 11 verses below in the poem.

Interestingly, no one is identified in the official report as the discoverer of this handwritten note. It didn’t occur to the members of the Review Board to mention how it came into their possession, and to question about it the person who gave it to them.

In an effort to make the note a convincing proof of suicide, Rogow claims, and Hoopes and Brinkley repeat, that Apprentice Robert Wayne Harrison, Jr., the corpsman on duty to keep watch on Forrestal, checked into his room at 1:45 and saw him copying the poem. But by doing so, they both contradict Harrison’s declaration to the Willcutts Board. He said that, when he checked on him at 1:45, Forrestal was “in his bed, apparently sleeping.” Then he went to fill in the medical chart. Minutes later, a nurse heard the sound of Forrestal’s body striking the third floor roof. Harrison heard nothing but then became aware that Forrestal was missing at 1:50.

Robert Wayne Harrison, Jr. would certainly have been a prime suspect if any criminal investigation had taken place. He was new to the job, and unknown to Forrestal until that fatal night. He had started his guard at midnight, replacing Edward Prise whose shift had started at 4 pm. Prise was well-known and apparently appreciated by Forrestal; he had been assigned to keep watch on Forrestal from the third day of Forrestal’s arrival at Bethesda. Strangely, his name is not mentioned in any contemporary news report, and it is misspelled “Price” in the report and in all biographies, although he clearly signed “Prise” in the medical chart included among the exhibits with the Willcutts report.

David Martin mentions that he received an e-mail from Prise’s daughter saying:

“We grew up hearing whispers between our parents in reference to this matter but were not allowed to ask for detail. Even up until a year prior to my father’s death in 1991 he had called me and was in fear that he was going to be questioned again about the issue.” (Martin p. 9)

We need not insist on the fact that witnesses are easily intimidated in a military environment, as was Bethesda Hospital. The pressure transpires in the transcripts of the Willcutts interviews: every nurse, corpsman or doctor said what they were expected to say, and understood their obligation never to speak otherwise. An interesting insight into this can be gained from David Martin’s interview of John Spalding, James Forrestal’s Navy Driver, then 27 years-old. When informed of the death of Forrestal by his superior, Spalding was handed a sheet of paper to sign, saying “I could never talk about anything that happened between him and me.”

Was it the communists or the Zionists?

Before David Martin, one author, writing under the pen-name Cornell Simpson, had claimed that Forrestal had been murdered. His book, The Death of James Forrestal, was published in 1966, although he claims to have written it in the mid-1950s. Simpson’s book contains much valuable and credible information. He had for example interviewed James Forrestal’s brother Henry, who was positively certain that his brother had been murdered. Henry Forrestal found the timing of the death very suspicious because he was coming to take his brother out of the hospital a few hours later that very same day. According to Simpson, another person who didn’t believe in Forrestal’s suicide was Father Maurice Sheehy. When he hurried to the hospital several hours after Forrestal’s death, he was approached discreetly by an officer who whispered to him, “Father, you know Mr. Forrestal didn’t kill himself, don’t you?”

Simpson blames the communists for Forrestal’s murder. The claim is not preposterous. Forrestal was definitely anti-communist. He had been alarmed by what he saw as communist infiltration in the Roosevelt administration (the Venona decrypts, giving evidence of 329 Soviet agents inside the U.S. government during World War II, would prove him right). After Roosevelt’s death, he was influential in the transformation of U.S. policy toward the Soviet Union, from accommodation to “containment.” Senator Joseph McCarthy, another Irish Catholic, testifies in his book The Fight for America that it was Forrestal who directly inspired his exposés of communist influence and subversion in the federal government:

“Before meeting Jim Forrestal I thought we were losing to international Communism because of incompetence and stupidity on the part of our planners. I mentioned that to Forrestal. I shall forever remember his answer. He said, ‘McCarthy, consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor.’ This phrase stuck me so forcefully that I have often used it since.”

After Forrestal met his violent end, McCarthy moved up to the front line. He himself died on May 2, 1957, at the age of forty-eight, in Bethesda Hospital. Hospital officials listed the cause of death as “acute hepatic failure,” and the death certificate reads “hepatitis, acute, cause unknown.” The doctors declared that the inflammation of the liver was of a “noninfectious type”. Acute hepatitis can be caused either by infection or by poisoning, yet no autopsy was performed. Simpson comments (as quoted at length in Martin’s article “James Forrestal and Joe McCarthy”):

“Like Jim Forrestal, Joe McCarthy walked into the Bethesda Naval Hospital as its most controversial patient and as the one man in America most hated by the Communists. And, like Forrestal, he left in a hearse, as a man whose valiant fight against Communism was ended forever.”

M. Stanton Evans, who built on his father Medford Evans’ earlier work for his commendable Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America’s Enemies (2009), hints at the possibility that McCarthy was murdered, but does not explore the issue.

In 1953, Robert Kennedy worked as an assistant counsel to the Senate committee chaired by Senator Joseph McCarthy
In 1953, Robert Kennedy worked as an assistant counsel to the Senate committee chaired by Senator Joseph McCarthy

The problem with Cornell Simpson’s theory is that Forrestal’s worst enemies were not the communists, but the Zionists. Although Forrestal’s anti-communism later attracted criticism from left-wing historians, it was not, then, a matter of public condemnation. Forrestal’s anti-communism was shared by most of his contemporaries, especially within the military. As long as you did not mention the high percentage of Jews among communists, being anti-communist did not make you the target of the mainstream media. The same, obviously, cannot be said of anti-Zionism. Neither the Washington Post nor the New York Times can be said to have been pro-communist at any time, but both turned strongly pro-Zionist around 1946. Arthur Hays Sulzberger, the NY Times’ director of publication since 1938, had actually denounced in 1946 the “coercive methods of the Zionists” influencing his editorial line, but eventually gave in and, since 1948, the NY Times has produced singularly unbalanced coverage of Palestine.[9]Alfred Lilienthal, What Price Israel? (1953), Infinity Publishing, 2003, pp. 95, 143.

It was his opposition to Zionism, not to communism, that attracted death threats to Forrestal. In his diary entry for February 3, 1948, Forrestal writes that he had lunch with Bernard Baruch and mentioned to him his effort at stopping the process of recognition:

“He took the line of advising me not to be active in this particular matter and that I was already identified, to a degree that was not in my own interests, with opposition to the United Nations policy on Palestine.”

Martin comments (p. 86):

“Baruch clearly did not know his man when he attempted to influence him by appealing to Forrestal’s own self-interest. He might have known more than he was telling, though, when he hinted at the danger that Forrestal faced for the courageous position he had taken.”

Jewish gangsters were traditionally anti-communists, but the Zionists could count on them to give a hand whenever needed. From 1945, Ben-Gurion’s Jewish Agency had close links to the Yiddish mafia, also known as the Mishpucka (Hebrew for “the Family”), who contributed greatly to the clandestine arms-purchasing-and-smuggling network that armed the Haganah. Leonard Slater writes in The Pledge that Teddy Kollek, who later became the longtime mayor of Jerusalem, ran the day-to-day operations and was told explicitly by Jewish gangsters from Brooklyn, “If you want anyone killed, just draw up a list and we’ll take care of it.” Yehuda Arazi, a close aide to Ben-Gurion sent by him to the U.S. to purchase heavy armaments, approached Meyer Lansky and met with members of “Murder, Incorporated.” Another Haganah emissary, Reuvin Dafni, who would become Israeli consul in Los Angeles and New York, met with Benjamin Siegelbaum, known as Bugsy Siegel. Some of those “gangsters for Zion”, writes Robert Rockaway, “did so out of ethnic loyalties,” or “saw themselves as defenders of the Jews, almost biblical-like fighters. It was part of their self-image.” Some also helped “because it was a way […] to gain acceptance in the Jewish community.”[10]Robert Rockaway, “Gangsters for Zion. Yom Ha’atzmaut: How Jewish mobsters helped Israel gain its independence”, April 19, 2018, on tabletmag.com Mickey Cohen, the successor of Bugsy Siegel, explains in his memoirs that from 1947, “I got so engrossed with Israel that I actually pushed aside a lot of my activities and done nothing but what was involved with this Irgun war.”[11]Mickey Cohen, In My Own Words, Prentice-Hall, 1975, pp. 91–92. He was in close contact with Menachem Begin, and met with him when Begin came touring the U.S. in December 1948, a few months before Forrestal was confined to the Bethesda hospital.[12]Gary Wean, There’s a Fish in the Courthouse, Casitas, 1987, quoted by Michael Collins Piper, Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy, American Free Press, 6th ed., 2005, pp. 290–297. Had Begin wanted Forrestal dead, he had only to ask.

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I think it is quite self-evident that Forrestal had more to fear from the Zionists than from the communists. And so it is strange that Cornell Simpson totally ignores the Zionists as possible culprits. Neither Israel nor Zionism appears in his index. David Martin, who nevertheless recognizes the merit of Simpson’s investigation, finds the explanation for his blackout on Zionism in the fact that his book was published by Western Islands Publishers, the in-house publishing company of the John Birch Society, a Zionist front.

Three years before the Birch Society published Simpson’s book, Rogow had published the first biography of Forrestal, defending the official line about his death, and linking his supposed mental illness directly to his supposed anti-Semitism. It is very unlikely that Rogow’s book eased the suspicions of the skeptics about Forrestal’s suicide. On the contrary, Rogow’s obvious bias as a writer mainly concerned with anti-Semitism must have led many to consider his book as just another layer in the cover-up. Martin therefore speculates that the writing and publishing of Simpson’s book by the Birch Society was a way to give voice to the skepticism over Forrestal’s death, while directing that skepticism away from the most likely suspects. Blaming the communists was the easiest way to deflect suspicions from the Zionists.

It was all the easier that, from the 1930s up to the time of Forrestal’s death, the communists and the Zionists were the same people in many instances, as David Martin points out. Although communism and Zionism may seem incompatible from an ideological viewpoint, it is a matter of record that some of the Jews who acted as communist agents under Roosevelt, turned ardent Zionists under Truman. A case in point is David Niles (Neyhus), one of the few of FDR’s top advisors kept by Truman: he was identified in the Venona decrypts as a communist agent, but then played a key role as a Zionist gatekeeper under Truman. Edwin Wright, in The Great Zionist Cover-Up, names him as “the protocol officer in the White House, [who] saw to it that the State Department influence was negated while the Zionist view was presented.” David Niles’ brother Elliot, a high official of B’nai B’rith, was a Lieutenant Colonel who passed information to the Haganah while working in the Pentagon.

Did the order come from the White House?

Martin considers David Niles “the most likely coordinator of the Forrestal assassination.” He had the motives and the means. He was actually capable of passing orders on behalf of Truman, as he did when orchestrating the campaign of intimidation and corruption that obtained a two-third majority in favor of the Partition Plan at the U.N. General Assembly.[13]Alfred Lilienthal, What Price Israel? (1953), Infinity Publishing, 2003, p. 50.

There are reasons to believe that the order to eliminate Forrestal came directly from the White House. According to Truman’s appointments secretary, Matthew J. Connelly, it was Truman himself who suggested arranging for Forrestal a vacation at Hobe Sound. As for the decision to abduct him from there and intern him in Bethesda, Martin makes the following remark:

“Considering the fact that Forrestal, having been officially replaced as Defense Secretary by Johnson on March 28, was a private citizen at this point, it is certainly reasonable to assume that Forrestal’s extra-legal transportation to Florida on a military airplane and confinement and treatment in the Naval Hospital at Bethesda was not done without approval at the highest level.” (Martin p. 29)

Hoopes and Brinkley state explicitly that the decision to take Forrestal to Bethesda came from Truman, and that Forrestal’s wife was convinced by a telephone conversation with Truman.

The decision to put Forrestal on the 16th floor, which seems hardly appropriate for a patient reputed suicidal, also came from the White House. Hoopes and Brinkley quote Dr. Robert P. Nenno, a young assistant to Dr. Raines from 1952 to 1959, who believed that Raines had received instruction to put Forrestal there, and added, “I have always guessed that the order came from the White House.”

Hoopes and Brinkley justify Dr. Raines’ turning Sheehy away on six occasions by the fear that Forrestal might divulge sensitive information during confession. Such concerns obviously came from higher up. It apparently didn’t come from Navy Secretary John L. Sullivan because, as Hoopes and Brinkley tell us, when Sheehy and Henry Forrestal took their complaint to him on May 18, he expressed surprise and had the decision overruled. According to Simpson: “the priest later commented that he received the distinct impression that Dr. Raines was acting under orders.”

There is, of course, no evidence that throwing Forrestal out of the window was also ordered by the White House, but given Truman’s complete control by the Zionists, and by David Niles in particular, it is not unlikely.

Why kill him after he had been dismissed from power?

But, one may ask, why would Truman or anyone need to kill Forrestal? Once out of the Pentagon, he had no more influence on government policy.

The answer is easy. Far from being suicidal, Forrestal was a man with a plan. According to Hoopes and Brinkley,

“he had told powerful Wall Street friends […] that he was interested in starting a newspaper or a magazine modeled after The Economist of Great Britain, and they had demonstrated a willingness to help him raise the start-up funds.”

He also planned to write a book. With no more ties to the government or to the army, he was free to speak his mind on many issues. As a war hero and a very popular figure, he was sure to have a great impact. And he had plenty of embarrassing things to reveal about what he had seen during his nine years in the government.

Time cover, October 29, 1945
Time cover, October 29, 1945

As Navy Secretary, he had been the central person for Pacific operations during World War II. He had inside knowledge of Roosevelt’s scheme to provoke the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. According to his diary entry for April 18, 1945, he had even told Truman, that,

“I had got Admiral Hewitt back to pursue the investigation into the Pearl Harbor disaster. […] I felt I had an obligation to Congress to continue the investigation because I was not completely satisfied with the report my own Court had made.”

Forrestal was also very bitter about the way the war ended in the Pacific. Knowing the desperate situation of the Japanese, he had worked behind the scene to achieve a negotiated surrender from the Japanese. He was opposed to the demand of “unconditional surrender”, which he knew was unacceptable to the Japanese military leadership. Simpson writes, as quoted by David Martin here:

“As secretary of the navy, Forrestal had originated a plan to end the war with Japan five and a half months before V-J Day finally dawned. He had mapped this plan on the basis of massive intelligence information obtained on and prior to March 1, 1945, to the effect that the Japanese were already desperately anxious to surrender and the fact that the Japanese emperor had even asked the pope to act as peace mediator. If Roosevelt had acted on Forrestal’s plan, the war would have ground to a halt in a few days. A-bombs would never have incinerated Hiroshima and Nagasaki, thousands of Americans would not have died in the unnecessary battle of Okinawa and later bloody encounters, and the Russians would not have had a chance to muscle into the Pacific war for the last six of its 1,347 days, thus giving Washington the pretext for handing them the key to the conquest of all Asia.”

Forrestal had also much to say about the way the Zionists obtained the Partition Plan at the General Assembly of the United Nations, or about the way Truman was blackmailed and bought into supporting the recognition of Israel. He had written in his diary, February 3, 1948, about his meeting with Franklin D. Roosevelt, Jr., a strong advocate of the Jewish State:

“I thought the methods that had been used by people outside of the Executive branch of the government to bring coercion and duress on other nations in the General Assembly bordered closely onto scandal.”

Forrestal had a pretty good memory. But, in addition, he had accumulated thousands of pages of diary during his public service. According to Simpson,

“During Forrestal’s brief stay at Hobe Sound, his personal diaries, consisting of fifteen loose-leaf binders totaling three thousand pages, were hastily removed from his former office in the Pentagon and locked up in the White House where they remained for a year. […] all during the seven weeks prior to Forrestal’s death, his diaries were out of his hands and in the White House, where someone could have had ample time to study them.”

The White House later claimed that Forrestal had sent word that he wanted President Truman to take custody of these diaries, but that is very unlikely.

A small part of Forrestal’s diaries was ultimately published in a heavily censored form by Walter Millis, FDR apologist and New York Herald Tribune journalist. Simpson estimates that more than 80 percent was left out. Millis frankly admitted that he had deleted unfavorable “references to persons, by name [and] comment reflecting on the honesty or loyalty of an individual.” Millis also said that he deleted everything on the Pearl Harbor investigations. One can only guess how much censorship Millis exerted on Forrestal’s view about American support for Israel.

David Martin’s conclusion makes perfect sense:

“Forrestal’s writing and publishing plans provide the answer to the question, ‘Why would anyone bother to murder him when he had already been driven from office and disgraced by the taint of mental illness?’”

“The compelling reasons for Forrestal to want to continue living were also compelling reasons for his powerful enemies to see to it that he did not.”

“He comes across, in short, not as a prime candidate for suicide, but for assassination.” (Martin, pp. 52, 53, 87)

A parallel with Lord Northcliffe

In his blurb for Martin’s book, James Fetzer puts it this way:

“Dave Martin has established that James Forrestal was targeted for assassination by Zionist zealots who were convinced that his future influence as an editor and publisher represented an unacceptable risk.”

In this article, Martin expands on this idea by comparing Forrestal to Lord Northcliffe (Alfred Harmsworth), an influential newspaper editor whose tragic story is told by Douglas Reed in The Controversy of Zion (pp. 205-208), based on The Official History of The Times (1952). In the 1920s just like today, factual reporting from the press was the greatest obstacle to the Zionist ambitions. Lord Northcliffe owned journals and periodicals, including the two most widely read daily newspapers, and he was the majority proprietor of the most influential newspaper in the world at that time, The Times of London. He took a definite stand against the Zionist plan, and wrote, after a visit to Palestine in 1922: “In my opinion we, without sufficient thought, guaranteed Palestine as a home for the Jews despite the fact that 700,000 Arab Moslems live there and own it.” Northcliffe commissioned a series of article attacking Balfour’s attitude towards Zionism. His editor, Wickham Steed, refused, and, when Northcliffe asked him to resign, took a series of action to have Northcliffe declared mentally ill. Although he appeared perfectly normal to most people he met, on June 18, 1922, Northcliffe was declared unfit for the position of editor of The Times on the authority of an unknown “French nerve specialist,” removed from all control of his newspapers, and put under constraint. On July 24, 1922 the Council of the League of Nations met in London, secure from any possibility of loud public protest by Lord Northcliffe, to bestow on Britain a “mandate” to remain in Palestine and to install the Zionists there. On August 14, 1922, Northcliffe died at the age of fifty-seven, officially of “ulcerative endocarditis.” The public was, of course, kept in total ignorance of the way this highly respected public figure was taken off the scene. Douglas Reed, who was then working as a clerk in the office of The Times, and learned the full story much later, remembers that:

“Lord Northcliffe was convinced that his life was in danger and several times said this; specifically, he said he had been poisoned. If this is in itself madness, then he was mad, but in that case many victims of poisoning have died of madness, not of what was fed to them. If by any chance it was true, he was not mad. […] His belief certainly charged him with suspicion of those around him, but if by chance he had reason for it, then again it was not madness.”

Reed sees Northcliffe’s elimination as a turning point:

“After Lord Northcliffe died the possibility of editorials in The Times ‘attacking Balfour’s attitude towards Zionism’ faded. From that time the submission of the press […] grew ever more apparent and in time reached the condition which prevails today, when faithful reporting and impartial comment on this question has long been in suspense.”

The parallel with Forrestal is indeed striking, as David Martin remarks:

“Forrestal’s first love was journalism. In his youth he had worked as a reporter for three newspapers in his native upstate New York, and he had been the editor of the student newspaper at Princeton. As former president of the investment banking firm of Dillon, Read, & Co. he was a rich, powerful and well-connected man. He had plans to run his own news magazine. In short, he could have become an American Lord Northcliffe with the ability to have a great deal of influence on public opinion in the country.”

Notes

[1] Seymour Hersh, The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy, Random House, 1991, p. 141.

[2] Haaretz, February 5, 1999, quoted in Michael Collins Piper, False Flags: Template for Terror, American Free Press, 2013, pp. 54–55.

[3] Joe Sterling, “Jewish paper’s column catches Secret Service’s eye,” CNN, January 22, 2012.

[4] Alan Hart, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, vol. 2: David Becomes Goliath, Clarity Press, 2013, p. 90.

[5] Ronen Bergman, Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations, Random House, 2018, p. 20.

[6] William Reymond and Billie Sol Estes, JFK Le Dernier Témoin, Flammarion, 2003.

[7] Alan Hart, Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews, vol. 2: David Becomes Goliath, Clarity Press, 2013, p. 250.

[8] John Loftus and Mark Aarons, The Secret War against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed The Jewish People, St. Martin’s Griffin, 2017 , p. 212-213.

[9] Alfred Lilienthal, What Price Israel? (1953), Infinity Publishing, 2003, pp. 95, 143.

[10] Robert Rockaway, “Gangsters for Zion. Yom Ha’atzmaut: How Jewish mobsters helped Israel gain its independence”, April 19, 2018, on tabletmag.com

[11] Mickey Cohen, In My Own Words, Prentice-Hall, 1975, pp. 91–92.

[12] Gary Wean, There’s a Fish in the Courthouse, Casitas, 1987, quoted by Michael Collins Piper, Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy, American Free Press, 6th ed., 2005, pp. 290–297.

[13] Alfred Lilienthal, What Price Israel? (1953), Infinity Publishing, 2003, p. 50.

 
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  1. When your bestest friend ever makes your job (likely) the most dangerous in the world.

  2. Insight into America’s assassination program was revealed several years ago by the wife of a US Marine Corps Colonel. From my blog:

    Aug 4, 2019 – Epstein, Pizzagate, and Kay Griggs

    I will not bore you with Jeffery Epstein, but note some questions. If his sexploitation has gone on for decades whilst law enforcement looked away, why did it suddenly become an issue? I’m guessing he got arrogant and upset powerful people, so even his connections with Israel couldn’t protect him. Retired CIA officer Philip Giraldi wrote that Epstein is probably a secret of agent of Israel who blackmailed politicians.

    The resignation of US Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta is also interesting. Acosta once intervened in a Florida state prosecution of Epstein to ensure he got an absurdly light sentence, rather than decades in prison. Nevertheless, Trump nominated him to become Secretary of the Labor so his past was scrutinized by the FBI and Congress, yet he was confirmed despite this public red flag. This makes one wonder about other mass sex crimes that may have been covered up, like “Pizzagate, as the great Ron Unz discussed at his website.

    While searching around I stumbled upon another plausible case. Kay Griggs is the wife of missing Marine Corps Colonel George Griggs, who works in intelligence. She is intelligent, likeable, interesting and started speaking out about everything she had learned from her husband, which includes bizarre tales of orgies and rampant homosexuality among many Generals. She describes all this in a long 1998 interview and seems to present a lot of gossip as fact. I can’t confirm any of this but all her military lingo is correct. The interview is long and disorganized, but interesting.

    • Replies: @Amanda
  3. Blake says:

    Bumping off all those who oppose them and unaccountable for it for far too long! Emancipating Palestine is the litmus test for humanity!

    • Agree: Jett Rucker
  4. Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean the Jews aren’t out to get you. It is possible Forrestal suffered a genuine mental breakdown when he began to recognize the evil forces aligning against him. And then they killed him. The predominant role Jews played in the Soviet government and that state’s misuse of psychiatry to stifle dissent make it easier to understand what might have happened to Forrestal. There is no crime so heinous that it is beyond the pale for the Zionist mafia.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  5. This article reminds me of ‘Wormwood,’ a 2017 American six-part docudrama miniseries [on Netflix] in which scientist Frank Olson commits ‘suicide’ by being thrown out of a window [10th floor, if I remember correctly] of a hotel.

    Add this to it:

    “A key piece of evidence the film relies on is a CIA assassination manual from 1953, which instructs agents, “The most efficient accident, in simple assassination, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard surface.”

    …and you’ve got the same sort of scenario James Forrestal ended up in.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  6. There’s more than a sufficient number of anomalies, contradictions, & simply suspicious events to make “murder” a Prima facie charge. (of all the elements here that are dubious, it’s that gown cord around his neck that gets me. From the photos there’s no where to attach the cord near the window. So he changes his mind to death by falling, then why broken glass (window?)? It’s as if the cord is there to reinforce, immediately, “oh, this guy wanted to kill himself”)
    The whole thing smells.
    But did the Zionists do it? Maybe. The other obvious contender/s are the government/ deep state. They had as much to fear as the Zionists.
    Naturally, Zionists & Gov’ could have worked together….

    • Replies: @Alden
  7. Kim says:

    Isn’t it about time that we admit that people who would kill Christ would kill just about anyone?

    • Agree: GMC, Ragno
    • Disagree: Irish Savant
    • Replies: @Anonymouse
  8. Talmudic doctrine dictates that the “World of Truth” is to be suppressed for the “World of Peace.” Truth being incompatible with “peace,” which is Talmudic for the consensus of the sages. Take a guess who the sages are.

  9. eah says:

    ” … The book implied that, had Kennedy remained alive, it is doubtful whether Israel would today have a nuclear option.”

    To believe that, you have to believe the US would not use its nuclear weapons in defense of Israel — but if you observe the depth of the US Establishment’s obsequious support for Jews and Israel, it’s not difficult to believe the US would use nuclear weapons on behalf of Israel — after all, they don’t call it ZOG for nothing.

    And to ensure this kind of complete cooperation, the Jews made sure they had the ‘Epstein Option’.

    • Replies: @Just another serf
  10. The parallel of James Forrestal and Lord Northcliff’s out-of-the-blue “madness” and swift death, both on the eve of their commitment to oppose to Zionist ambitions, is chilling. Thank you to include mention of Douglas Reed’s classic, The Controversy of Zion. It should be a Norton Critical Edition with updates and commentary.

    Less so now, but for years an engine search of James Forrestal typically generated lots of stuff on extraterrestrial aliens. In the “Top Secret interview”, the alien is documented as saying:

    ‘This “final solution” (Footnote 123) was conceived and carried out by the psychopathic criminals who are controlled by the “Old Empire”…The mass extermination of “untouchables” and prison camps created by Germany during World War II were recently revealed. Likewise, the IS-BEs of Earth are the victims of spiritual eradication and eternal slavery inside frail, biological bodies…”

    End quote. I mean maybe, but MORE maybe this has been loopy cover. R.I.P. JVF, ACWH & JFK.
    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alieninterview/alieninterview08.htm

    p.s. re: The assassination of Count Bernadotte. Folke had just done much to secure the release of over ten thousand prisoners under Nazi control, and well over 1000 of these were Jews, denigrating revisions by Wikipedia notwithstanding. That is some kind of gratitude for Stern Gang terrorists to just gun him down after such a heroic effort.

    • Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    , @Alden
  11. utu says:

    “[Forrestal] could have become an American Lord Northcliffe with the ability to have a great deal of influence on public opinion in the country.” – Perfect analogy

  12. So Forrestal had a “chord” tied around his neck. This sounds reminiscent of Calvi, “gods banker”, who was found hanging from Blackfriars bridge.

    We know that Truman was a 33 degree Scottish Rite. Then there is this photograph of Truman presenting Forrestal with a medal. Look at Forrestal’s expression. Look at that Masonic hand grip.


    Forrestal was heavily involved in the provocations of Japan leading up to the Pearl Harbor, and who knows what other war crimes and crimes against humanity he facilitated. Clearly he was a freemason and he was executed for breaking his masonic oaths. This is why he had a chord wrapped around his neck.

  13. @Blake

    Palestinians will never be freed, Zionists have total control over the Western governments and will carry out their actions in far more over manners than before.

    • Agree: Lol just lol
  14. My hero Ezra Pound always claimed that Forrestal was murdered. If old Ez thought so, then that’s good enough for me.

    Good article by Mr. Guyenot!

    • Agree: Moi
  15. bj0311 says:

    “The decision to put Forrestal on the 16th floor, which seems hardly appropriate for a patient reputed suicidal, also came from the White House.”

    I have always known that Forrestal was murdered. In my mind, the proof lies in this simple fact no one seems to address. A high-profile i.e. VIP patient with alleged mental health issues is placed in a room–any room on any floor–with unsecured windows–why? No competent doctor would have allowed this. Well before this time period, all psychiatric units everywhere had secured windows i.e. bars or wire mesh for the protection and security of patients. With Forrestal’s status, surely they would have taken extra care.

    • Replies: @David Martin
    , @CSA
  16. Jonathan Cott’s “Isis and Osiris : Exploring the Goddess Myth” was likely the last book that JFK’s wife guided and edited. If I remember correctly she was also involved with Cott’s earlier book on a related theme “In Search of Omm Sety”. The Osirian myth must have echoed strongly in her imagination i.e. Conspiracy and murder. JFK had given her a genuine Ancient Egyptian bracelet and in her own way she too was a form of Isis who mourned the death of her murdered husband. An important part of that myth is the son who avenges his fathers death – constantly repeated in the afterlife books of Ancient Egypt. I hope that one day a son worthy of his fathers name will complete this myth.

    The murder of JFK was redolent of living myth. The famous yellow rose of Texas was out of stock that day in Dallas and so she was given a bouquet of red roses which was symbolic of martyrdom in a spiritual context. The priest who was visiting Dallas that day carrying a relic of the cross went to Parkland and so Calvary was present as the deed was consummated.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
    , @MaryLS
  17. gotmituns says:

    Fifteen Years Before Kennedy, Zionists Murdered Forrestal
    ———————————————————————–
    C’mon, everybody knows he “fell” out a window.

  18. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:

    When the Zionist mafia wishes you dead, fearing for your life is not a sign of mental illness, but rather of sound judgment. Other websites have transformed 1897 Zionism into modern day mobsterism. Senator Joseph McCarthy, another Irish Catholic, testifies in his book The Fight for America that it was Forrestal who directly inspired his exposés of communist influence and subversion in the federal government

    reasons to believe that the order to eliminate Forrestal came directly from the White House. and there are reasons to believe Truman was to Roosevelt as Kennedy was to Johnson. Mobsters are work.

    The problem with Cornell Simpson’s theory is that Forrestal’s worst enemies were not the communists, but the Zionists. redirect Zionism to Communism McCarty style?.. It is easy to contrast Zionism with Communism..a blank page with a period at its end, does it but now its called mobsterism.

    I have seen something like this statement else where.. “Jewish gangsters were traditionally anti-communists, but the Zionists could count on them to give a hand whenever needed. From 1945, Ben-Gurion’s Jewish Agency had close links to the Yiddish mafia, also known as the Mishpucka (Hebrew for “the Family”), who contributed greatly to the clandestine arms-purchasing-and-smuggling network that armed the Haganah. ” its so true..

    thank you for this article. It delivers a factually ordered summary of the intrigue between Zionism and American resistance (many Catholics were at the fore front of that resistence..) In 1908 NYC was majority Iris in 1912 it was Jewish dominated.. What? the failures of Zionism to take down the Ottoman Sultan and his empire caused the Ottoman to deny protection to Jewish persons at Salonkia and other places within the Ottoman Empire. Jews were no longer welcome in Ottoman Territory. Half went to Russia to participate in the October Revolution the other half to America to participate in forcing Americans to finance the Zionist wars in Europe designed to take down Germany and to get at the oil under the Ottoman Empire<= that how the 16th amendment trashed constitutional prohibition against Capitation or other direct taxes unless done in exact proportion to the population(census). People say this amendment was ratified February 3, 1913, but no one has produced to me creditable evidence that it was ratified before it became effective.

    To explain, if France and England and most of Europe were Broke, how were the mobsters (oil and gas corporations, banksters, arms makers and steel companies) ever going to be able to have the leaders of France and England use their armies to attack Germany and the Ottoman empire. There is no profit in financing a war if the warriors cannot pay the loans needed to incur the cost of war. Financing WWI was necessary, but Europe c/n do it. So the Federal Reserve came into being. (1913) and to guarantee the loans the Fed planned to make to Europeans and European warrior industries, the banksters felt it necessary to get third party collateral lest they might lose a few bucks. so the 16th amendment, quashed the prohibition against Capitation or Direct Taxes promised to Americans by the Constitution, and the income tax became law in 1913. Direct taxes served as collateral the fed needed to finance the Zionist effort to use the Jews and the people of Europe and America to take over and rule all of Europe and Russia (called WWI). WWI started 1914.

  19. geokat62 says:

    I will here summarize the evidence accumulated by David Martin, and highlight the significance of this case for our understanding of Israel’s takeover of the heart, soul, and body of the United States.

    Some here at Unz need to let those bolded words sink in a bit. Rather than posting images of America being the husband and Israel the bride, the relationship is quite different. It’s more like Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

  20. Carlos457 says:

    James Forrestal is very well known in UFO consipracy groups as being part of the infamous MJ 12 group who were managing so called “alien visitations” from alledged crashed ufo’s and sightings.

    His name has popped up repeatedly in popular fiction such as the x files and other related movies, docu and sci fi stuff.

    Basically its alleged he couldnt handle the secrecy and heavy burden so killed himself.

    Maybe just a convienient cover story for just an ugly political assasination?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  21. Not only was Forrestal a victim of the zionists but every American serviceman and woman killed in the middle east wars for Israel are victims of the zionists and every civilian, man , woman and child killed by the bombing and invasions and wars for Israel, are victims of zionism.

    Also not only JFK but RFK and JFK jr. , all were assassinated by and for the zionists!

    Also every American killed in the joint ZUS and Israeli attack on the WTC on 911 are also victims of zionism.

    Zionism has destroyed America.

    • Agree: Trinity, Truth3
    • Replies: @Trinity
  22. Ragno says:

    The predominant role Jews played in the Soviet government and that state’s misuse of psychiatry to stifle dissent make it easier to understand what might have happened to Forrestal.

    And, what the hell – as long as we’re pulling back the covers on the dark corners of American history, isn’t it time we looked into the practically-Xeroxed “strange death” of Sen Joe McCarthy, rather than accept unquestioningly the account of his death by the people who hated him most?

  23. Jake says:

    “But I am quite certain that today, most smart Israelis assume and half-approve that Ben-Gurion ordered the elimination of JFK in order to replace him by Lyndon Johnson, whose love for Israel is also now widely celebrated, to the point that some speculate he might have been a secret Jew.”

    LBJ was not a Jew in genetics. LBJ was a philoSemite because LBJ was a knowing product of WASP culture. LBJ was ashamed (the degree is the only question) of his mostly Scottish/Irish/Welsh ancestry because culturally his heart was WASP. Specifically, LBJ was a man whose heart beat in tune with the spirit of Oliver Cromwell, and LBJ knew that Cromwell permanently allied the Brit WASP Empire with Jewish bankers. LBJ chose to be an American version of the secularized Anglo-Saxon Puritan. And he, logically, then also chose to be a philoSemite and a promoter of the Numinous Negro.

    Ultimately, we all chose culture.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  24. @thotmonger

    If I hadn’t studied the UFO issue for my Folklore Ph.D. minor I would agree that the Forrestal-ET material must have been injected by Zionists to “skunk” everybody interested in conspiracy theories about Forrestal’s murder. But having looked into it, I would not be surprised if some day we learn that the ET disclosure issue may have played a role both in the establishment of Israel and Forrestal’s death. Remember, Israel is a millenarian messianic project initiated by satanic Kabbalist magicians (Shabtai Tzvi, Jacob Frank, etc.) who sought and may have received aid from extradimensional entities.

    Gordon Duff of Veterans Today says he saw a top secret C*A memo describing an extradimensional life form that feeds on human suffering, and interacts with selected humans to maximize the suffering it feeds on. He has described a Rothschild “infestiture” ceremony in which a demon is invoked to bond with the young Rothschild for life, and to guide his decision-making. https://www.patreon.com/posts/veterans-day-nj-15326758

    If you’re not up to speed on the UFO issue, a good place to start is Richard Dolan’s UFOs and the National Security State.

    • Troll: utu
    • Replies: @AaronB
    , @Jake
    , @thotmonger
  25. @eah

    ….you have to believe the US would not use its nuclear weapons in defense of Israel

    Nuclear bombs were on U.S. air craft bound for Egypt at the time of the attack upon the USS Liberty

  26. @Carlos457

    I am very familiar with the MJ12 and UFO literature–after hanging around here I am beginning to see it as a cover story for the conspiracy that is discussed here but cannot be discussed elsewhere.

    There is a long history in literature of using “code” to describe events to avoid execution by the King.

    Dave Martin’s book is excellent–makes establishment historians look like monkeys in cages hooked on Deep State bananas.

  27. Jake says:
    @Blake

    Before anyone can emancipate Palestine, we must emancipate ourselves from the fruits of Judaizing heresy. This is a spiritual war. Any approach other than to work to revive Christendom, which requires us to chose to be Latin Mass Catholics or Eastern Orthodox, is wasted time, energy, and money.

  28. And to think that after his death–assuming JFK was indeed knocked off on the orders of the Zionists–his beautiful widow and the lovely daughter were both literally screwed by Jews Maurice Templesman and Edwin Schlossberg, respectively … oy vey!

    P. S. Templesman is described by Wikipedia as a “Belgian-American” as if he is either an ethnic Dutch or Walloon rather than as a Jew.

    • Replies: @Moi
  29. Trinity says:
    @Desert Fox

    I might add to your list all the women raped by third world invaders in Europe and North America are victims of Zionism since Jews have led the quest for open borders for traditionally White countries for decades now.

    White kids being raped and beat by nonwhites in our public schools are victims of Zionism since Jews were front and center behind integrating our schools.

    Whether that POS LBJ was a Jew or not a Jew he might as well have been, he was just another cuckold POTUS controlled by Jewish power and influence. That cretin will go down as one of the absolute worst American Presidents ever, even worse than Carter and almost as bad as Dubya and Pappy Bush, Wilson, and the magic negro Obama. The other POTUS rumored to be Jews, FDR and Eisenhower where once again some of the biggest cuckolds to Jewish power and influence that were ever SELECTED to run “our” country. IF Eisenhower was of German or Dutch ancestry why on earth did he hate his own people the way he did? And lets not forget that POS forcing integration of our public schools at gunpoint. And this psychotic sociopath that was regarded as some war hero NEVER SAW ONE DAY OF ACTUAL COMBAT. Now that sure sounds like a Jewish trait from the “Dutch Jew.”

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
  30. lavoisier says: • Website

    Very interesting story. I have been at the Bethesda Naval Hospital. The place is haunted.

    The more you read this kind of thing the more you realize how precarious our lives are under the control of the evil Zionist mafia.

    I never liked Truman. I always thought he was a callous ignoramus given how indifferent he was to killing thousands of Japanese civilians by nuking them.

    But if he was under the control of the Zionists, what did THEY gain by having the United States drop an atomic bomb on a civilian Japanese population?

  31. Truth3 says:

    God Bless the Truth Tellers.

    God Damn Satan’s people the Jews.

  32. AaronB says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    Good stuff, very intriguing. I would love it if you could elaborate on this a bit more…. 🙂

  33. @Jack McArthur

    That’s interesting. I referred quite a bit to the Osiris and Isis myth in my book From Yahweh to Zion, and wrote about Kennedy:

    History seems to replay indefinitely the mythical struggle of Seth against Osiris. The story of the Kennedy brothers and their nemesis Lyndon Johnson is an Osirian tragedy, with two Irish-Catholic siblings as Osiris and, playing Seth, a crypto-Jewish Texan who, having seized the throne by murder, hastened to tie the destiny of America to that of Israel. This time, Seth did not give Horus a chance: John John (JFK Jr.), who had turned three on the day of his father’s funeral, was eliminated in a suspicious plane crash on July 16, 1999, in the company of his pregnant wife and sister-in-law.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
  34. @Ship Track

    Forrestal was heavily involved in the provocations of Japan leading up to the Pearl Harbor, and who knows what other war crimes and crimes against humanity he facilitated.

    Quite the opposite, it seems: Forrestal wanted a new investigation on Pearl Harbor. If what you say is true, then Cornell Simpson, quoted by David Martin, has it all wrong:

    “As secretary of the navy, Forrestal had originated a plan to end the war with Japan five and a half months before V-J Day finally dawned. He had mapped this plan on the basis of massive intelligence information obtained on and prior to March 1, 1945, to the effect that the Japanese were already desperately anxious to surrender and the fact that the Japanese emperor had even asked the pope to act as peace mediator. If Roosevelt had acted on Forrestal’s plan, the war would have ground to a halt in a few days. A-bombs would never have incinerated Hiroshima and Nagasaki, thousands of Americans would not have died in the unnecessary battle of Okinawa and later bloody encounters, and the Russians would not have had a chance to muscle into the Pacific war for the last six of its 1,347 days, thus giving Washington the pretext for handing them the key to the conquest of all Asia.”

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  35. @Jake

    Perhaps he was, perhaps not; I agree that it matters little: Jewishness is in the mind, not the blood. Yet his Jewish background is plausible: LBJ was the son of Rebekah Baines and Samuel Johnson, and grandson by his mother of Ruth Huffman. The Arizona Jewish Life article also mentions that “His aunt Jessie Johnson Hatcher, a major influence on LBJ, was a member of the Zionist Organization of America.” And, in an additional note: “The facts indicate that both of Lyndon Johnson’s great-grandparents, on the maternal side, were Jewish. […] The line of Jewish mothers can be traced back three generations in Lyndon Johnson’s family tree. There is little doubt that he was Jewish.”

    • Replies: @TGD
    , @Jake
    , @eah
  36. @Trinity

    Agree, and recomment these books, Blood in the Water by Joan Mellen, and Remember the Liberty by Phillip Nelson, and By Way of Deception by Victor Ostrovsky, and The Committee of 300 by John Coleman, all can be had on amazon.com.

  37. @Laurent Guyénot

    Yes, I saw that about his peace initiatives. That does not mean that his attempts were not lies or faked, and it doesn’t mean that he didn’t play an important role in getting the war started. It would appear that he was a Mason and Navy, a very toxic combination.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if John McCain and the aircraft carrier Forrestal disaster might have some kind of kabbalistic connection.

  38. melpol says:

    Political Zionism is a strawman, lobbyists working to promote arms for Israel is the real powerhouse. Defense contractors hand Israel 5 billion in aid and Israel buys 3 billion in weapons as gratitude. Ordinary Jews have nothing to do with this financial arrangement. Zionists cannot be found because they no longer exist.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @annamaria
  39. Skeptikal says:
    @Chris in Cackalacky

    “The predominant role Jews played in the Soviet government and that state’s misuse of psychiatry to stifle dissent”

    Very interesting point.
    Of course the whole science of psychology and (hence) potential manipulation of individuals and groups is an area long associated with Jews in various professions (psychology, medicine, “public relations,” academic disciplines such as sociology and social psychology, the “helping” professions, the media). In these and other spheres (finance?) they can find many applications for knowledge of how to manipulate emotions and public perceptions.

  40. bjondo says:

    …the annual Jerusalem Conference announced this week that it will honor Johnson in February 2009. Historians have revealed that Johnson, while serving as a young congressman in 1938 and 1939, arranged for visas to be supplied to Jews in Warsaw, and oversaw the apparently illegal immigration of hundreds of Jews through the port of Galveston, Texas. A key resource for uncovering LBJ’s pro-Jewish activity is the unpublished 1989 doctoral thesis by University of Texas student Louis Gomolak, “Prologue: LBJ’s Foreign Affairs Background, 1908-1948.” Johnson’s activities were confirmed by other historians in interviews with his wife, family members and political associates. Research into Johnson’s personal history indicates that he inherited his concern for the Jewish people from his family. His aunt Jessie Johnson Hatcher, a major influence on LBJ, was a member of the Zionist Organization of America.

    https://www.jpost.com/Features/A-friend-in-deed

    5ds

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  41. @Daniel Rich

    I recall Involuntary Defenestration being a thing in the Eastern Block (as was) during the 70’s and 80’s

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
  42. babu says:

    But they did name an aircraft carrier after him.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  43. Amanda says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    Thanks for the reminder about Kay Griggs–I listened to that entire (extremely long) video with her, although she wanders a bit, I actually learned a great deal from her and was glad I took the time to listen. Years again, I also used to be a regular listener of Daryl Bradford Smith’s radio show at iamthewitness.com, and he interviewed her several times, and also had an audio with Kay and Sophia Smallstorm posted–they were all worth a listen. She has a unique view of things, give her marriage to Col. Griggs.

  44. @bj0311

    Actually, as we point out in the book, security screens were installed on the windows of Forrestal’s 16th floor room shortly after his arrival there. However, it looks like they were more for show than anything else. He could easily go through the bathroom he shared with Dr. Deen into Dr. Deen’s room, which had two unsecured windows, or across the hall to the kitchen, which had one unsecured window. That is the window that he eventually went out of. What has no justification whatsover if they really believed that he was mentally unbalanced in any way was putting Forrestal on the 16th floor.

  45. BuelahMan says:

    As a collaborator with DC Dave Martin on a number of videos, I came to know him as one of the most well-researched historians to ever put word to paper.

    This book is phenomenal.

    (((They))) are neck deep in this and many other murders of those who were going to illuminate their destructive goals.

  46. JamesinNM says:

    The state of Israel is a financial construct created to help the NWO conquer all the Middle East, destroying sovereign nations, enslaving the people, and stealing the resources. The state of Israel was planned for this purpose for many years before it was created, and its creation really has little to do with the Bible other than using that as a convenient but false justification. After Christ’s birth, death, and resurrection , the real Jews and “chosen people” are all the born again Christians, regardless of their ethnic origin who have changed hearts (Romans 2:28-29). The reader survey titled “Defense of True Israel” on the MissiontoIsrael.org web site provides supporting information. The Oded Yinon Plan describes Israel’s intent to conquer the Middle East for its resources.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  47. @Laurent Guyénot

    Whatever happened to John John doesn’t end the story because those words relating to having avenged his fathers death were spoken by every one who made it to the good afterlife through assimilation with not just the father but the son so I take it a researcher who shines a light into Dallas also is acting as the good son.

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
  48. @bjondo

    The crypto credo is:

    Deny, deny, until you die

    When there is doubt about jewish roots, about the only way you can be certain is when the jews claim them for their own, like Johnson in this article. When one considers Tonkin, Vietnam war, “civil rights” and the Liberty it is pretty clear that Johnson should be burned in effigy. Yet no president will mention it.

    This is precisely the reason Isabella had to start the inquisition. Jews love to lie and claim that it was about finding “heretics”, but it was really about marranos and conversos. Crypto jews like Johnson, Roosevelt, Eisenhower and Trump who had been undermining Spain for 1000 years, and those same crypto blood lines are doing it today in Spain and the USA.

    Everyone in favor of a new DNA inquisition to determine the bloodlines of those who rule us while claiming to be one of us, please “agree”.

  49. Jake says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    UFOs/space aliens is what you come up with when you refuse to accept the existence of Satan and the other rebellious angels and their demons.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  50. TGD says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Perhaps he was, perhaps not; I agree that it matters little: Jewishness is in the mind, not the blood. Yet his Jewish background is plausible: LBJ was the son of Rebekah Baines and Samuel Johnson, and grandson by his mother of Ruth Huffman.

    If LBJ had Jewish ancestry, it wouldn’t be Ashkenazic but Sephardic. The main outpost of Sephardic ‘conversos” in the Americas was Monterey, Mexico, which is very close to the Texas border. They chose Monterey because it was as far as they could get from the Inquisition still in full force in Mexico City.

    Below is pictured a profile of either Josefa or Rebekah Johnson, sisters of LBJ. Finding an internet photo of Josefa’s profile is near impossible. LBJ probably had all traces of Josefa wiped out when he ordered her murder. Does she look Semitic?

  51. Jake says:
    @melpol

    ‘Ordinary Jews’ have always been left out of the evil dealings of their leaders.

  52. Anyone who has watched the Netflix series, “House of Cards” already has a very good understanding how the real world of US politics works.

    James Forrestal was an intelligent, honorable man in a terribly dishonest, depraved world. Such people cannot exist easily on Earth. As a result, though I believe the author of this article has showed more than enough evidence to demonstrate that James Forrestal did not commit suicide and was in fact murdered, we also have to understand that what appears to have been murder may also have been just a terrible set of circumstance that appeared to suggest something other than a tragic death.

    I have now been living among the Humans for close to 70 years now. And to be quite honest, I have had more than enough of my fill.

    There is no way that the universe will ever allow such a species to be free to roam the stars…

    • Replies: @Jimmy1969
    , @Jimmy1957
  53. gsjackson says:
    @lavoisier

    The threat of nuclear annihilation (whether real or not real, and there are those who think it’s another hoax, with Hiroshima and Nagasaki being just extra helpings of the usual fire bombing) is another instrument of control. You’ve got to work a lot of angles if you want to take over the entire world.

    And speaking of those various angles, I just saw a documentary on one of the recent California fires. The conclusion reached: These fires will grow more numerous and larger as the weather gets warmer. So (by implication) send your tax dollars off to the relevant supra-national governing body to combat climate change.

  54. Jake says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Those claims are a load of hokum, which in this instance can be produced by either adherents to the fruits of a Judaizing heresy who wish to have their genes, of the genes of some of their leaders, be Jewish, or else by someone who thinks like a Germanic or Jew that race/ethno-linguistic tribe is virtually everything.

    LBJ was a Texas Hill Country Scots-Irish hillbilly in standard genetics. The Germamics in the same region had much more likelihood of Jewish admixture, and that was very low. And when they had it, everybody in the local community knew.

    Hillbillies in any part of the pre-Reconstruction Part 2 South who did not know that a family had Jewish admixture or knowing acted as if it did not matter at all so that nobody talked about it when a member of that family became very powerful? You have to be from an entirely different set of cultural factors to think that was remotely plausible.

    LBJ was what he was because he chose to serve the mandates of WASP culture. That’s the reason he was a philoSemite and that he intended to uplift the Negro come Hell or high water. That’s what Oliver Cromwell would have done.

  55. Jimmy1969 says:

    This article is ludicrous and dangerous. It takes a few facts, cuts and pastes a few together and makes dozens of false assumptions and silly conclusions that do not at all follow from the premises. It is like a guy who orders a pizza and the guy who delivers it is then accused of murder next year and the cops try to say that the Pizza buyer was an associate and consorting with murderers. Or a guy who goes to grammar school or lives a few houses away from a serial killer …then the man 30 years later becomes successful in life but some internet trolls try to tie the two in together.

    • Replies: @David Martin
  56. annamaria says:
    @melpol

    “Ordinary Jews have nothing to do with this financial arrangement.”
    — Ordinary Jews should come to their senses and see the subhuman nature of their cheerleaders for “promised land.” Ordinary Jews are the ones who have been allowing (and supporting) the Jewish mega criminals to destroy the livelihood and lives of millions of people for the glory of Eretz Israel.

    • Replies: @melpol
  57. annamaria says:
    @JamesinNM

    The state of Israel has become a safe place for Jewish criminals of all sorts, from swindlers to pedophiles, human-organ mongers, and spies. Currently, exhibit One is Ghislaine Maxwell, the Jewish procuress of underage girls for wealthy pedophiles.
    By the way, has she participated in the ongoing holohoax commemoration?
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-the-good-life-of-criminal-suspects-who-flee-to-israel-1.8010981
    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/279808/a-field-guide-to-israeli-organized-crime

    • Agree: Desert Fox
  58. @Kim

    Lenny Bruce claimed to have found a note in the cellar written by his cousin: “Yes, we killed him.”

    It is fantastic that the putative killing of Jesus Christ in 33 A.D. by jews would be taken as dispositive in solving James Forrestal’s death.

    The thrust of the article above is that the jews assassinated JFK yet not a scintilla of evidence is provided. Almost 60 years after 1963 yet the coverup is so air tight that no one in a diary or other writings or in a deathbed confession has confessed their role in so momentous a deed. As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It is the token of a primitive or defective thought process to invent chains of evidence out of the whole cloth to support an obsession about jews.

    • Replies: @Frankk
  59. @Jimmy1969

    The words that Thomas Sowell says he used to write in red on his students’ papers are at this point ringing in my ears,”Specify, don’t characteirze.” When one simply characterizes, what he presents can quite easily be just a mischaracterization, which is what anyone familiar with the actual facts would know is what we see in this case, along with a couple of truly outrageous false analogies.

    “Ludicrous”and “dangerous?” Try “powerful”and “important” and “like a breath of fresh air.”

    • Thanks: eah
  60. melpol says:
    @annamaria

    Ashkenazim refugees were ordinary Jews who emigrated to Palestine from war torn Europe. Most would have preferred landing in London or NYC rather than in Tel Aviv. Zionist were basically travel agents who received commissions from Jewish relief organizations. Advertisements about the beautiful Promised Land caused a stampede to a pseudo Holy Land. Most of the Ashkenazim and Moscow refugees were Atheists, and few believed in Zionist propaganda. NYC or Miami would make a real live habitat for millions of Jews who want to start a new life in America.

  61. @lavoisier

    “…the Zionists, what did THEY gain by having the United States drop an atomic bomb on a civilian Japanese population?”

    A test run, an experiment. THEY worked in the lab of course and we know today that many secrets were passed to the Soviets and ultimately Israel herself by traitorous scientists. That was probably part of the plan from the start.

    Zionists will use anyone to advance their self interest. They are equal opportunity exploiters. When any one group is no longer useful, they discard them. We are seeing this in the U.S. today. From WW1 to the present time, they used our might to achieve their ends. Now that they are strong and independent they no longer need us, so they are cultivating our replacements through mass immigration. They tell blacks and beaners that it’s okay to hate us and give them permission to murder us.

  62. eah says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    … Jewishness is in the mind, not the blood.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  63. Mulegino1 says:

    This is shocking, but not surprising, considering the truth that Christ spoke to the spiritual ancestors of the Talmudists (and by extension, the Zionists):

    You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.

    I don’t know why people continue to make excuses for international Jewry, as it provides the leadership for the advancement of a sick and twisted cult- namely Rabbinism or Talmudism- which serves as its nucleus and its spiritual or philosophical underpinning. Most Jews are not really religious in any true sense of the word, but they adhere to the Talmudic worldview which, in essence, can be expressed by the question, “Is it good for the Jews?” Zionism is merely the weaponized form of this.

    No Jew can be blamed for his or her heritage or upbringing, since these are not matters of personal choice or free will. It is the conscious and willful acceptance of the Jewish identity that constitutes a criminal and anti-human act, since it implies acceptance of and concurrence in the judicial murder of the Truth Incarnate by the Sanhedrin. Can anyone imagine a more diabolical or impure root to a religious tradition than this?

  64. bjondo says:

    Jew if Jew in thought, deeds, policies, words, associations:

    https://www.jta.org/1973/01/24/archive/president-lyndon-b-johnson-israel-and-american-jewry

    JEWS WERE CLOSE CONFIDANTS

    Throughout his political career which covered the range from Congressman to Senator to Vice-President and President, Mr. Johnson had Jews among his closest confidants. This was especially evident during his Presidency. Besides appointing Fortas to the Supreme Court and nominating him to be Chief Justice, and his selection of Arthur Goldberg to be his Ambassador at the UN at an especially difficult time in that area, President Johnson named Wilbur Cohen as Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare, Sheldon Z. Kaplan as Commissioner of Internal Revenue and Emanuel Cohen as Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission.

    Eugene Rostow was his Undersecretary for Economic Affairs in the State Department and his brother, Prof. Walt W. Rostow was his National Security Advisor at the end of his Presidency. Lee C. White, who was on his White House staff, became Chairman of the Federal Power Commission. Leonard Mark, who was the lawyer for the Johnson family’s television interests, became director of the U.S. Information Agency, Ginsburg, his intimate personal advisor and counsel or, was named Executive Director of the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders, familiarly known as the Kerner Commission.

    Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, then a professor of government at Harvard, entered the international scene as President Johnson’s emissary to Paris in 1968 when negotiations were underway with the North Vietnamese to end the American bombing of North Vietnam. In Congressional affairs, two of Johnson’s closest associates were Sen. Abraham Ribicoff (D. Conn.) and Rep. Emanuel Celler, the Democrat from Brooklyn who retired from the Congress less than a month ago after serving in it for nearly 50 years.

    USS Liberty attack by Israel and Jew LBJ.
    100% Jew assault.

    5ds

    • Replies: @bjondo
  65. melpol says:

    Zionists were not Holy Rollers but talented travel agents employed by the Holocaust Survivors Fund (HSF). Plan One was for the agent to arrange free transportation to Tel Aviv which paid a small commision. Plan Two was for a Jews acceptance in Argentina which paid a moderate agents fee. The big commission was for getting a Jew permanent residence in NYC or London. Asylum for Jewish refugees is no longer a thriving business. The game is now over and former well paid Zionist travel agents have retired to NYC and Miami Beach.

  66. bjondo says:
    @bjondo

    Forgot someone slightly important –
    LBJ’s bed pal, Mathilde Krim – Jew.

    5ds

  67. vot tak says:

    First time I heard about the mystery surrounding the death of forrestal was in the 1990s, reading a book by Carl Sagan about the human mind, which was written in the 1970s. He mentioned forrestal’s possible mental problems and also that israelis may have killed him. It was used as an example of “while you may be paranoid, that doesn’t mean that they are not actually out to get you”.

  68. Jimmy1957 says:
    @Steve Naidamast

    “I have now been living among the Humans for close to 70 years now. And to be quite honest, I have had more than enough of my fill”.
    Steve….as a fellow “Human” at 62 years….I concur! The older and wiser we become,the more it becomes obvious that as we humans “evolve”…..we`re not really “evolving” at all. You would think that over the centuries…..with all the wars and all the death…that we would come to realize that we are all born here on this particular planet by no choice of our own.And that over time we come to understand that helping each other would make this life more bearable and happy.As long as we had family and friends and food…..what more could we ask? It`d be Paradise….Xanadus!
    But then (((those))) others that are taught from childhood its all for (((them))) and no one else! Their deception and deceitfulness is astonishing once you recocognize it. So……
    like yourself……I too have had my fill of the hate and look forward to the next life where possibly life and love mean something. “Scotty……Beam Me Up”!

  69. very true. We can add Lord Northcliffe and General Patton.

  70. Hibernian says:
    @Ship Track

    Despite the prohibition on Catholic membership in the Masons (by the Catholic Church, not the Masons) Catholics in the Masons are common in Europe; not so much in the US.

  71. @Kevin Barrett

    I… I… Tilt. Come on. What ET in his right mind would side with Talmudists over the truly ageless grandeur of Whale Nation? And if suffering is what they drink should not the ET fix their straws into those whose claim to pain has no rival?

    IS that as it may BE, I know so little, except the ET autopsy and interview left me… cold.

    However, I agree the difference between truth and fiction is that fiction has to make sense. And paraphrasing someone else, the new millennium may only arrive when the last banker has been strangled with the entrails of the last alien.

    Let us pray. (And hook up Kissinger to a polygraph test. That will settle it.)

  72. “As secretary of the navy, Forrestal had originated a plan to end the war with Japan five and a half months before V-J Day finally dawned. He had mapped this plan on the basis of massive intelligence information obtained on and prior to March 1, 1945, to the effect that the Japanese were already desperately anxious to surrender and the fact that the Japanese emperor had even asked the pope to act as peace mediator. If Roosevelt had acted on Forrestal’s plan, the war would have ground to a halt in a few days. A-bombs would never have incinerated Hiroshima and Nagasaki, thousands of Americans would not have died in the unnecessary battle of Okinawa and later bloody encounters, and the Russians would not have had a chance to muscle into the Pacific war for the last six of its 1,347 days, thus giving Washington the pretext for handing them the key to the conquest of all Asia.”

    One myth found in American history books is the unconditional surrender of Japan in 1945. Japan was seeking surrender terms since February 1945. By June 1945, the White House had decided to accept their terms, evidenced by detailed planning for OPERATION BLACKLIST. The Japanese government would remain and the imperial family was granted immunity from war crimes prosecution.

    Japan never surrendered unconditionally but accepted the terms of the Allies Potsdam Declaration with a stipulation that the Emperor would remain as a symbolic leader. This was agreed to and the government continued after Japan was under control of the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers, Douglas MacArthur. Japan did not surrender because two atomic bombs were dropped. Evidence suggests that the war was prolonged until the atomic bombs could be dropped.

    • Thanks: eah
    • Replies: @vot tak
    , @David Martin
    , @TGD
  73. M. Guyénot:

    You include a touching photograph of JFK visiting Forrestal’s grave.

    Whose hand is holding the flower, at the edge of the photo?

    I found that, in a larger version of the same photo, the associate is shown and is named Grant Stockdale. Mr. Stockdale had served as U.S. Ambassador to Ireland from 1961-1962.

    Regarding the death of Mr. Stockdale, Wikipedia has this to say:

    Stockdale died in a fall from his office on the 13th floor of the DuPont Building in Miami, Florida, on December 2, 1963, one week after the funeral and just ten days after the assassination of President Kennedy. Police termed it a suicide, but no suicide note was found. Larry King later reported speaking to him the day of the assassination and finding him “disconsolate to the point where he couldn’t get a word out”

    • Thanks: utu, Laurent Guyénot, eah
    • Replies: @eah
    , @Jett Rucker
  74. Popeye says:
    @lavoisier

    An interesting book on USA decision to drop A.bomb on Japan is Atomic Diplomacy. I believe author is Far alperovitz and [email protected] His main point is that bombs use was maybe not chiefly to get Japan to surrender…USA had word via Switzerland or Sweden that Japan was willing to surrender unconditionally if emperor could stay on throne …but as figurehead. Alperovitz key point is that A.bomb was used to impress, scare, coerce, manipulate or intimidate Stalin..you pick the verb.. in effect dropping the A.bomb on Japan was not dictated by military necessity but by geostrategic political consideration. Despite Truman stating in his Memoirs that A.bomb was used by USA to ensure that Japan surrender rather than 1-2 million US troops wouldn’t have to invade in spring 1946. Alperovitz comes up with a pretty compelling argument that no need to drop A.bombs to get Japanese surrender. Especially the second bomb used…

    • Replies: @Popeye
    , @vot tak
    , @lavoisier
  75. Alden says:

    I’m glad to see this article about the murder of Forrestal on the site. Thanks, Ron

  76. Popeye says:
    @Popeye

    Gar alperovitz…not Far…

  77. Alden says:
    @animalogic

    Forrestal, like Patton was very much against the takeover of E Europe and China by communists after WW 2. Churchill Roosevelt and major elements in the American and U.K. government favored the soviet takeover.

    So there was as much incentive for the Russians to kill him as the Zionists. Although in those days not all Jews were communists but most American communists were Jews.

    And Russia favored Zionism in those days. It was the Russian delegation that sponsored the resolution to make Israel a Jewish nation.

    They say knowledge is power. It’s not. No matter how much we know about Jews and liberals there’s nothing we can do to stop them.

    Trump has approved some new treaty that gives Israel more authority over the West Bank and the Jordan valley. Israelis rejoice.

  78. Alden says:
    @thotmonger

    Jews also killed Bernadotte’s aide, Colonel Sorel in that Assassination.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  79. Sean says:

    Joseph Kennedy had all the money he needed to set up a independent media outlet but he didn’t even though he was left alive to do it if he wanted. I would not underestimate the effect of severe public criticism on a man’s state of mind, especially if he is Irish (they have high rates of apparently heraditary mental instability). Surely driving him out of his vaunted position would be a devastating blow to his self esteem. If he was driven to it that could be seen as murder. Forrestal wanted to avoid handing Asia over to Communism, and that was why he was anti Israel.

    [http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/for-anyone-interested-it-is-a-must/Yuri Slezkine>Van Creveld review of Slezkine’s The The Jewish Century]

    When the time came for the state of Israel to be established it found looked for, and found, support in the Kremlin. Almost to a man, Israel’s founders were immigrants from Russia whose views on society and the economy were not too different from Stalin’s own—one Mandatory British police officer who interrogated Yitzhak Ben Tzvi, later Israel’s second president, called him “a perfect Bolshevik.” For that reason, but also because the dictator saw Israel as a lever with which to force the British to evacuate the Middle East, he supported it. By way of Czechoslovakia he even supplied it with arms; but for which the nascent Jewish State, laboring as it did under a U.N embargo, might not have survived.

    What finally terminated Soviet support for Israel was the outbreak of the Korean War. As Slezkine does not say, Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion worried least it might lead to a world war and thus to the severance of the country’s lifeline in the Mediterranean. This caused him to put his support, for whatever it was worth, firmly on the American/Western side.

    Forrestal was many concerned with communism and in his time Israel was firmly within the Soviet orbit.

    If Roosevelt had acted on Forrestal’s plan, the war would have ground to a halt in a few days. A-bombs would never have incinerated Hiroshima and Nagasaki, thousands of Americans would not have died in the unnecessary battle of Okinawa and later bloody encounters, and the Russians would not have had a chance to muscle into the Pacific war for the last six of its 1,347 days, thus giving Washington the pretext for handing them the key to the conquest of all Asia.

    It was not called a world war war nothing. Roosevelt won election saying he would stay out of WW2. By the middle of 1941 it was looking as if only by going to war could America stop Germany conquering European Russia and becoming the world’s most powerful country. If Japan had entered the war against Russia, nothing could have saved it. America strategists became very worried and to divert Japan they wanted to lure it into an attack .n the US.

    https://www.unz.com/article/the-case-for-pearl-harbor-revisionism/

    United States government had enacted the economic sanctions with a clear realization that this could lead to war. Admiral Richmond Kelly Turner, Navy chief of war plans, had prepared a report for President Roosevelt on the probable consequences of imposing an oil embargo on Japan, which read:

    It is generally believed that shutting off the American supply of petroleum will lead promptly to an invasion of the Netherlands East Indies… An embargo on exports will have an immediate severe psychological reaction in Japan against the United States. It is almost certain to intensify the determination of those now in power to continue their present course. Furthermore, it seems certain that, if Japan should then take military measures against the British and Dutch, she would also include military action against the Philippines, which would immediately involve us in a Pacific war

    The main effect of trying to help Communist Russia resist Nazi Germany was that the Soviet Union at a time of its choosing, occupied Manchuria, captured vast quantities of Japanese arms and turned China’s most industrialized region and the Jap army weapons over to the Chinese communist party. When added to the dynamic Communist party infrastructure in the countryside it was all Mao needed to win.

    Now America is being shown up as not exceptional in economic power because China under the leadership of the communist party is so dynamic that under the Free Trade agreements his predecessors negotiated China will inevitably become most powerful state in the world. Trump understand this, which is why he is turning away from the ungrateful Europeans. Oil remains a key source of power over the Asian foe, so Saudi Arabia must be held. Just as Stalin used Israel as a wedge against the British, it remains useful to keep the Arabs in disarray, while the threat of Iran keeps Saudi Arabia under US protection.

    • Replies: @Nonny Mouse
    , @Hibernian
  80. vot tak says:
    @Popeye

    Alperovitz did his homework.

  81. vot tak says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    “Japan did not surrender because two atomic bombs were dropped. Evidence suggests that the war was prolonged until the atomic bombs could be dropped.”

    Exactly. The Japanese were done, the nukes were for Russia.

  82. The first book I read about DOD included a great reference by the SecDef Forestall: a position one is sent to herd dead cats

    (paraphrased)

  83. @eah

    Well, let me put it this way: our minds are largely products of our ancestral heritage: invisible loyalties (Ivan Boszormenyi-Nagy), this kind of Jungian thing. So there is a connection, of course, between blood and mind. Actually, on this point, we do have something to learn from Zionist thinkers: there is a collective, ethnic, national dimension to our soul. Yet to some extent, (some) individuals have the power to think themselves out of their ancestral conditionning. Complex question.

    • Replies: @Ship Track
  84. eah says:
    @Thad Brodiy

    MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONIES AT ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY, 10:50AM — 30 May 1963

    Following Memorial Day Ceremonies at Arlington National Cemetery, President John F. Kennedy visits the grave of Lieutenant James Forrestal, first Secretary of Defense of the United States and former Secretary of the Navy. Former U.S. Ambassador to Ireland, Grant Stockdale, stands at far left.

  85. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Popeye

    Yes I had heard that about a warning to Stalin. It makes sense.

    So we committed a war crime not to end the war humanely as we have been told, but to let everyone on the planet know that we were a criminal nation unafraid to do the most terrible things if anyone stood in our way.

    I know that war is a terrible scourge filled with atrocities. But I am amazed at how many Americans celebrate the dropping of the atomic bomb on a civilian population.

    We are one nasty species.

  86. Ordered by the Truman White House? This might kind of explain why Douglas MacArthur went away relatively quietly, and why he went to St. Luke’s when he needed treatment, though he did ultimately die at Walter Reed of biliary cirrhosis.

  87. @Sean

    What have the Europeans got to be greatful about?

  88. @babu

    I spent a week in the Forrestal suite in the Robins AFB visiting officers quarters. Nice digs.

  89. Moi says:
    @Really No Shit

    Those two ladies obviously like genuflecting to Jews.

    • Replies: @Really No Shit
    , @Alden
  90. @Alden

    Now, really, this is going too far. You mean Colonel André Sérot who was killed along with Bernadotte. But Hazit Moledeth of the Lehi gang expressed their regrets in writing to a French news agency saying the Frenchman was a mistake and they meant to kill Bernadotte’s chief of staff General Lundström. Let’s not exaggerate.

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
  91. johnwho says:

    Of course I can’t reply here without being targeted. Nevertheless:
    ‘Andrew Adler, owner and editor in chief of The Atlanta Jewish Times, assumes that the idea “has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circle,” and, in his column of January 13, 2012, called on the Israeli Prime Minister to

    “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current Vice-President to take his place and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish State obliterate its enemies. […] Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence.”[3]’
    How’s that for democracy?

  92. @Carlton Meyer

    For more confirmation of your point that the Japanese did not surrender unconditionally, see my rebuttal of Oliver Stone in “Oliver Stone on the Japanese Surrender” at https://dcdave.com/article5/130122.htm.

    • Thanks: eah
  93. TGD says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    One myth found in American history books is the unconditional surrender of Japan in 1945. Japan was seeking surrender terms since February 1945. By June 1945, the White House had decided to accept their terms, evidenced by detailed planning for OPERATION BLACKLIST. The Japanese government would remain and the imperial family was granted immunity from war crimes prosecution.

    According to the definitive work about Japan prior to and during WW2, John Toland’s The Rising Sun, all of the peace feelers were feints. Forrestal was delusional if he thought that his “plan” would have ended the war 6 or more months earlier than was the case.

    The dropping of the A-bomb was not the main reason why Japan decided to surrender. It was the prospect of Russian occupation. The Soviet armies were moving through Manchuria like a hot knife through butter. This scared the big industrialist families. They knew that the Communists would wipe them out and the Americans would help them rebuild and regain their previous status.

    • Replies: @David Martin
  94. @Laurent Guyénot

    “Actually, on this point, we do have something to learn from Zionist thinkers: there is a collective, ethnic, national dimension to our soul.”

    This is why they are so obsessed with race mixing, for all races but themselves. It is one of the reasons they consider themselves superior: because the have genocided all other races.

  95. I have long wondered about the supposed suicide of James Forrestal. When Bill O’Reilly was asking for ideas for a new book in his “Killing” series, I wrote to him that I would like him to write a book on “The Killing of Forrestal.” He never responded.

    There is a book that needs to be written on James Forrestal. I hope the author of this article will write it.

  96. CSA says: • Website
    @bj0311

    If I remember correctly, Forrestal was originally placed on the 1st floor and then moved up
    to the 16th floor. He was denied visitors. His brother did get to visit once as he was
    very persistent. The wheels were already in motion for his demise. I guess incidents such
    as this is why we have such traitorous, cowardly politicians who refuse to serve America.
    Extortion!!! The same with General Patton and plenty of others.

  97. Ron Unz says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    I have long wondered about the supposed suicide of James Forrestal…There is a book that needs to be written on James Forrestal. I hope the author of this article will write it.

    Actually, this article and my own parallel analysis of the Forrestal case both rely very heavily on the extensive research of David Martin over the last few years, and he recently published his material in book form, so I’d strongly recommend it:

  98. The following excerpt is from “A study of Assassination-Transcript ‘ nsarchive2.gwu.edu:

    “TECHNIQUES
    ….
    2.ACCIDENTS
    For secret assassination, either simple or chase , the contrived accident is the most effective technique . When successfully executed , it causes little excitement and is only casually investigated .
    The most efficient accident , in simple assassination , is a fall of 75 feet or more on to a hard surface…”
    This is from a downloaded CIA manual which apparently was found on a government website. Sounds as though the Forrestal assassination is right out of the manual .
    See for more information : “The secret CIA assassination manual : A study of assassination ” By Ron Collins , available at Amazon Books.
    This manual was put together way before the “Boston Brakes “assassination technique or a variation thereof which is alleged to have taken out Michael Hastings .

  99. @Jake

    Spot on. “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” “Aliens” are materialized “dominions” and “holographs” are materialistic replacement for simple everyday deceptions and psyops.

  100. Hibernian says:
    @Sean

    “(they have high rates of apparently heraditary mental instability)”

    Near absolute proof that your handle is meant to deceive. You let the mask slip.

    • Agree: AnonStarter, Robjil
  101. MaryLS says:
    @Jack McArthur

    Fascinating. Do you have a source for the details about the roses and the priest? We are still oppressed by the shadow cast by JFK’s assassination. Will the truth ever come out? I think so, but currently the forces of evil still have significant power.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
  102. MaryLS says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    I hope investigations into the death of Philip Marshall and his kids are still being pursued. Assassination by whatever means is how the deep state retains its power. People need to recognize what is happening.

  103. Alden says:
    @Moi

    Those ladies like very very very very very rich men. And Jews are very rich. Midwest, south west west coast it’s possible to find very very very very rich men who aren’t Jewish.

    But the big bagel? Mostly Jews.

  104. Alden says:
    @Minnesota Mary

    There’s already a book about Forrrstsl’s Assassination. Titles something like The Assassination of James Forrestal. Read it, it’s excellent.

    • Replies: @Minnesota Mary
  105. The list of those possibly assassinated in car accidents is lengthy, see : ” Assassination by car accidents” whale.to . As the CIA manual advises “…the contrived accident is the most effective technique.”

    • Replies: @David Martin
  106. @TGD

    TGD needs to do some catching up on his reading of establishment historians. John Toland’s book was published in 1970. These days the one that is treated as the definitive work on the Japanese surrender is the 2006 book by the Japanese American, Tsuyoshi Hasegawa, “Racing the Enemy: Stalin, Truman, and the Surrender of Japan.” Indeed, Hasegawa comes to much the same conclusion as Toland, but with much more documentation, but I believe that I have demonstrated effectively that Hasegawa is also quite wrong about the motivations of the Japanese government in the closing stages of the war. Oliver Stone repeated the Hasegawa/Toland thesis in the book he wrote with Peter Kuznick, “The Untold History of the United States.” I rebut it in my article “Oliver Stone on the Japanese Surrender.” https://dcdave.com/article5/130122.htm That article includes my long email to Professor Hasegawa in which I tell him why he is wrong and ask him to defend what he had written, and he never responded.

    The bottom line is that the U.S. “unconditional surrender” demand was always the big sticking point, because it carried the implication that not only would Emperor Hirohito but the emperorship, the core of everything the Japanese held near and dear in their unique civilization would be swept away upon their acceptance of the American terms. Even after the second A-bomb had been dropped and devastating conventional bombing was continued in other cities they weren’t surrendering. It was the dropping of the unconditional surrender demand, in a clever formula suggested to Truman by Forrestal, that finally did the trick.

    As a final note, the same people who rely on the likes of Toland, Hashegawa, and Stone for their WW II history swallow what they have been told by our court historians about James Forrestal’s death. Read Ron Unz’s “American Pravda” series and you’ll know more vital 20th century history than you’ll get from any history department in an American university…and then there’s my web site.

  107. @9/11 Inside job

    As the CIA manual advises “…the contrived accident is the most effective technique.”

    And the best case in point I know is that Hitachi fan that wrestled the great Catholic monk and antiwar writer and mentor of Father Daniel Berrigan to the floor and jumped on top of him in a Red Cross guest house in Thailand on December 10, 1968, when LBJ was still president and the Vietnam War was raging next door. Hugh Turley and I have pretty thoroughly exposed that one, I believe. Go to http://www.themartyrdomofthomasmerton.com to see what I mean.

    • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
  108. @David Martin

    Thank you for the link.The MIC cannot stomach a high profilc, anti-war activist , I believe that the powerful, anti-war speech Martin Luther King gave exactly one year before his assassination is what sealed his death warrant .

  109. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Thad Brodiy

    Larry King isn’t … Jewish, is he?

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  110. Sparrow says:

    Before I can even finish this research…I will say without doubt that ‘Zionism’ IS ‘Communism’. They both leave the same fruit of mass murder. They are both infested and controlled by jews (Bolsheviks) and Mafia mandates. To clear the evidence of Bolshevik communism that infiltrated and united with the zionist in America, even with NYT et al condemning it, makes for a vague excuse to its heinous trail along with the FDR/CHURCHILL/STALIN alliance, marriage with positively gross mass murders of tens of millions ethnic and Christian Russians, ethnic and Christian Germans, American soldiers, German soldiers, and untold mass graves in Chec/Pol/et al eastern block by these monsters. To separate the two is a mistake and would not be the truth. Also it was the jewish controlled Churchill who demanded in all certain terms to get the US involved in a world war with Germany to fulfill the worlds jewish hallucinations of zion. That the jews were behind this whether communists, zionists, (both) are fact to get their occupation, murder, theft, genocide and ultimate world empire that what exists today. Zionism and Judaism will always = Communism. The names may change to blend in with the environment but you know them by their fruits. IT IS THAT SIMPLE! Thank you for this research and bringing it to so many (including me) who otherwise didn’t know.

    • Replies: @Sparrow
  111. Sparrow says:
    @Sparrow

    It was all the easier that, from the 1930s up to the time of Forrestal’s death, the communists and the Zionists were the same people in many instances, as David Martin points out.

  112. @Jett Rucker

    Larry King isn’t … Jewish, is he?

    You bet he is, born Lawrence Harvey Zeiger.
    When King says that Stockdale “couldn’t get a word out,” perhaps we should understand:
    “I’m not going to repeat what he said.”

  113. Thomasina says:

    Laurent Guyenot – great article. Thank you. “In the 1920s just like today, factual reporting from the press was the greatest obstacle to the Zionist ambitions.”

    This is what is missing – factual reporting. The press is now owned by these very same people. They need to be split up.

    David Martin – excellent work. Thank goodness for people like you. I can totally empathize with James Forrestal. To be taken and then held against your will, all the while knowing the probable outcome, would have been absolutely terrifying. I wonder what accident will befall Julian Assange. Michael Hastings, Seth R*ch, JFK, RFK, MLK, Forrestal, Lord Northcliffe, McCarthy….. Power eventually gets cocky and comes out into the open, thinking they are now untouchable. This will be their demise. Keep up the great work.

  114. @Bill Jones

    Happening to democracy protestors in Hong Kong at the moment.

  115. @ploni almoni

    ‘Oops. Our bad. We’ll try to murder more carefully next time.’

  116. ‘Fifteen Years Before Kennedy, Zionists Murdered Forrestal’

    I find the thesis perfectly congenial. Unfortunately, almost no actual evidence to support it is offered.

    • Replies: @Sparrow
    , @gsjackson
  117. I feel for Colin’s parents when they saw his score on the Reading Comprehension part of the SAT.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  118. gsjackson says:
    @Colin Wright

    Assuming you agree it has been shown that murder is at least as likely as suicide, the question becomes: who else? Who else did things like that to political figures in the West for reasons of public policy? A strong motive has been clearly established, and the M.O. has been clearly established. Probably not enough evidence to convict on the ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ standard, but an unbiased jury likely would be satisfied by the ‘preponderance of evidence.’

  119. @David Martin

    ‘I feel for Colin’s parents when they saw his score on the Reading Comprehension part of the SAT.’

    I’m embarrassed to say I had only 760 on the verbal. Would 780 on the verbal section of the GRE make up for that?

    But there. What were your scores?

    • Replies: @David Martin
  120. TGD says:

    I’m embarrassed to say I had only 760 on the verbal. Would 780 on the verbal section of the GRE make up for that?

    Re the SAT, when did you take it? Was it prior to 1997? A little background: the highest combined score on the old SAT was 997. That happened in the Fall of 1963. From that point in time, the combined scores kept falling until the education establishment demanded that the College Board modify the test to hide the diminishing achievement.

    Here’s what they did: all reading passages in the verbal part are now tested in mixed race focus groups of students. If the minority students do poorly in comparison to whites, the passage is deemed to exhibit cultural bias and is eliminated. Antonyms were completely eliminated in 1997 and in 2005 so were the analogies. Quantitative comparisons in the math section were also eliminated. These were the “tricky” questions that required a higher IQ to figure out. The “raw scores” were also “curved up” by quite a bit. You can also bring your calculator to the test. Why weren’t we allowed to bring our slide rules?

  121. @Colin Wright

    Assuming the veracity of the response, we must then look for another reason for the clearly outlandish characterization of Guyenot’s exposition, as we might gather from the rejoinder of gsjackson. Dishonesty, perhaps? Also, again assuming the veracity of the proud statement about the glittering test scores (in our grade-inflation age), we might note that neither the SAT nor the GRE measures one’s sense of humor or degree of literal-mindedness. What shall we expect next, a denial from Colin that he ever goes by the last name of “Wrong?”

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  122. ‘… Also, again assuming the veracity of the proud statement about the glittering test scores (in our grade-inflation age)…’

    I took the tests in 1977 and 1982, respectively.

    ‘… neither the SAT nor the GRE measures one’s sense of humor or degree of literal-mindedness…’

    So you agree the essay doesn’t literally offer any significance evidence to support its claim? Maybe your position is that it was intended as humor?

    Or is it your belief that others should have to put up with verbal abuse from you in silence?

    Why don’t you clarify your position?

    In other words, you’ve got the shovel: now dig yourself in deeper.

    By the way, you never did tell me what your scores were. You asserted mine were low; what were yours?

  123. What sort of knucklehead would conclude from my comment that I agree that the article does not provide evidence that Forrestal was murdered and that the Zionists are far and away the most likely suspects? The SAT jibe, in lieu of doing what gsjackson did and hitting the highlights of the article, was a facetious suggestion that anyone who would write that the article was virtually evidence free is unable to comprehend what he is reading. It is abundantly clear that that is not the case. I was going to suggest that you read the book, but now I think it would be a waste of time for anyone simple minded enough to believe that I was inviting a debate over SAT scores.

    • Replies: @utu
  124. utu says:
    @David Martin

    You understand the difference between believing and knowing. And you understand people’s beliefs tend to confirm their biases. For instance in my case I let myself believe that JFK was killed by Israelis and can let myself believe that JF was also killed by Israelis but all the time I know that I do not know who really killed them and I am sure that you do not know either though perhaps you do not know that you do not know.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  125. gsjackson says:
    @David Martin

    Colin has written the single (intentionally) funniest post I have read on Unz. While I think he has underestimated the evidence presented here, I have to attest to both his sense of humor and customary astuteness.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  126. Trying go stick as best I can to the subject at hand, may I say that anyone interested in the preconceptions and biases that I might have brought to my study of 20th century history might be interested in https://heresycentral.is/dcdave/the-carolinas-jews-and-china/. Left-liberal and mildly philo-Semitic is a fairly good characterization, I would say. I think that I have done my best to follow the evidence where it has led me. The evidence, I think is virtually open and shut that James Forrestal was assassinated and it is very strong that the Zionists were responsible for it. I believe Dr. Guyenot has done an excellent job of summarizing the evidence in his relatively short article, but there’s lots more in the book. Ron Unz’s review of the Bergman book on Mossad assassinations also gives important reinforcement to the notion that the Zionists were responsible for the hit on Forrestal.

  127. gsjackson says:
    @gsjackson

    Just to clarify: not a post in this thread but one he wrote a few weeks ago.

  128. The essay notes the published diaries were heavily edited but is there any problem in accessing the microfilm version (poss on modern media) which seems to be referenced in a web search e.g. through a unversity library?

  129. Rhys says:
    @Blake

    Litmus test? Well put, Blake

    As the world slowly wakes to the nature of the beast, that is Zionism now inflicting most of the Jews in the world, by choice mainly but by pressure as well and sees the continuation of the feeble UN’s efforts to resolve this 70 year old matter of Palestine against the corrupting influence of the US in that place, Jews will again be seen as the world’s parasites, corrupting, influencing by threats, killing as they did just last week with the General from Iran, as they appear to have done in the case of JFK and who knows their part in 9/11 as well. We all know about the USS Liberty. Never forgotten, as we all know about Johnson and his backdown over so many American murders on that fateful day in 1967. Again, Israel giving the USA and the American people the big finger and how!

    400 nuclear devices are regarded by them as their salvation to bully the world into accepting their apartheid and inhumanity in Palestine and their ultimate goal of ‘Eretz Israel’, the control of all lands from the Euphrates to the Nile. Always on their mind.
    Watch out, Middle East. There is more to come in that regard

    Until then, they will become even more aggressive in controlling the USA through weak Congressmen and women. As has been said many time by Israel’s leaders, “We control America” and as we all know, they do. How shameful it is to have to accept that fact.

    But for Palestine, it is the single litmus test for humanity as Blake has said.

    Certainly for me.

    • Replies: @David Martin
  130. @Alden

    Got it! I downloaded it on my Kindle. Can’t wait to read it.

  131. Jim Phelps says: • Website

    Like it of not—Many things are obvious—Forrestal was Murdered and was close with JFK. Forrrestal was a big enemy of Harry Truman and Truman had an Army MED pal named Ralph M. Lockhart that ran the Manhattan Project’s Security with a Murder, Inc type deal with the Mafia to kill suspected NAZI Spies to keep the New York based project super secret. The Jewish Mafia’s favorite way to kill folks was to toss them out a high window and this is how Catholic Forrestal was murdered.

    Then, as these factors got into JFK, it was Zionist Jack Ruby and his backer Zionist LBJ that were in the high command for the JFK hit in Dallas .. . JFK and LHO crossed into another Manhattan Project super secret linked to deuterium and cancers and other illnesses tied to nuclear projects. Using LHO as their spy, JFK had both the CIA and the USAEC caught in a plot to kill Castro with Cancer mechanism using deuterium, which was an International War Crime and JFK could break the CIA and the USAEC. JFK wanted to kill the Nuke Projects in his next term and JFK faced the same enemy deals as Forrestal in many ways.

    It is very likely that JFK knew that Forrestal’s battle with Mason Harry Truman was part of why JFK attacked the Masonic controlled White House under Truman in his Secret Society speech as he intended to avenge his Catholic friend James Forrestal. It is also likely that JFK knew there were MED/USAEC connections involved as Forrestal was against Nuking Japan and had set up a Japan surrender using the Catholic Church connections in Japan and their connections to the Japan High Command.

    As a haunting reminder of this Murder, the DOE building (aka former USAEC) in DC was named the Forrestal Building.

    https://www.unz.com/article/fifteen-years-before-kennedy-zionists-murdered-forrestal/

  132. @utu

    ‘You understand the difference between believing and knowing. And you understand people’s beliefs tend to confirm their biases. For instance in my case I let myself believe that JFK was killed by Israelis and can let myself believe that JF was also killed by Israelis but all the time I know that I do not know who really killed them and I am sure that you do not know either though perhaps you do not know that you do not know.’

    I agree with your basic point — although I wouldn’t go so far as to say I believe the Israelis killed JFK.

    I’ll go with it being a plausible hypothesis. They might have. Johnson’s subsequent subservience fits.

    But indeed. One has to distinguish between hypotheses one finds attractive and theories that are actually supported by a substantial body of evidence.

  133. Stop the presses! I have discovered a factual error in the article, albeit a rather small one. Guyenot says that the name of the key witness at Bethesda Naval Hospital, Navy corpsman Edward Prise is misspelled as “Price” in the Willcutts Report and in “all the biographies.” He’s right about the Willcutts Report, but wrong about the biographies. As I point out on page 7 of the book, Prise’s very existence was pointedly blacked out from contemporary news accounts and therefore from subsequent accounts of Forrestal’s death up until 1993, when Townsend Hoopes and Douglas Brinkley bring him front and center and name him correctly as Edward Prise. By that time, though, Prise was safely dead and unable to contradict the words that the authors clearly falsely put in his mouth, as indicated by the email that I received from his daughter in September of 2017, as reproduced entirely in my book. It is very telling that the newspapers bent over backwards to write Prise out of the picture by reporting falsely that the shift of the corpsman responsible for attending to (guarding?) Forrestal began at 9:00 pm, with Forrestal having gone out of the window of the kitchen across from his room a little before 2:00 am. In fact, as we learn definitively from the Willcutts Report, Prise’s shift did not end at 9 pm but at midnight, when he was replaced by Robert Wayne Harrison, Jr., the new substitute for the regular person on duty. Harrison had put in his first night just the night before, during which Forrestal was asleep the whole time. Harrison seems to have been the only person on duty on the 16th floor on the night of Forrestal’s fatal plunge that the contemporary news reports mentioned. It kind of make one wonder if that was his real name, and his late arrival to the key position, if nothing else, is enough to make one suspect that he was a ringer and a knowing party to the crime.

  134. To answer the question of,

    ‘Why would anyone bother to murder him when he had already been driven from office and disgraced by the taint of mental illness?’

    you must first accept the premise that James Forrestal was privy to the extraterrestrial wreckage, bodies and survivor of the crash near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. This, plus perhaps the Cape Girardeau ,Missouri incident as well as others. Since the official US government stance has been to discredit these incidents and classify them with the highest level of secrecy could James Forrestal have been of other opinion? Perhaps he wasn’t exclaiming “The Russians are coming” but rather, “The aliens are coming!” Also, Why did Albert Einsteins personal secretary forward his calls from Princeton, New Jersey to Roswell, New Mexico in the summer of 1947?

  135. An enemy from ages, an enemy still in our midst.
    A worthy enemy, if not defeated, will turn us to mist.

  136. correct the anti communist and anti zionist JF got whacked..who runs both fronts? the JEWS!

  137. God only knows what will happen to Trump. He has done much to try to appease them and support them, but he’s still likely being used for something more sinister to come. Maybe he’s all for further destruction of M.E. without understanding that with it’s destruction also comes destruction of West. It doesn’t seem like he really understands what he has gotten himself into, although….maybe he does. No way is he smart enough to take on the competing factions of Elites, both sides controlled by JPS.

    But I guess we just have to wait and see how it all plays out….

  138. Frankk says:
    @Anonymouse

    Red herring, using JFK reference to avoid the actual argument of the article.

    So you know, when an article presents one thesis, it does not need to prove a corroborating thesis. It’s the concept of footnotes.

    In this case most here are familiar with the author’s work and think that both his JFK and RFK thesis are solid, and now that this murder of Forrestal follows the pattern. As the author intends.

    And as this commenter is doing, a more historical pattern.

    So why don’t you use quality methods of argumentation to counter any of the other comments or the author’s argument?

    We love honest debate here

  139. obvious says:

    Why would anyone care about 700 thousand Arab Moslems in Palestine? That’s barely an inhabited country and it was not “owned” by empty spaces or people who don’t exist.

    Nobody has any business going out of their way for no purpose at all, just to oppose somebody else out of envy or morbid obsessions.

    I would like someone to be honest and explain why they care about the Jews at all. Even planting a seed or building a ruin makes anger and resentment. These Irish Catholics are just naturally contrary to all men and always in trouble over something.

    Thankfully, the English and the Jewish and the Americans are united against the world, along with the Dutch, Swiss and Scandinavians.

    Israel is a divine litmus test.

  140. Frankk says:

    Red herring, using JFK reference to avoid the actual argument of the article.

    So you know, when an article presents one thesis, it does not need to prove a corroborating thesis. It’s the concept of footnotes.

    In this case, most here are familiar with the author’s work and think that both his JFK and RFK thesis are solid, and now that this murder of Forrestal follows the pattern. As the author intends.

    And as this commenter is doing, a more historical pattern.

    So why don’t you use quality methods of argumentation to counter any of the other comments or the author’s argument?

    We love honest debate here

  141. @Ship Track

    Where is that Retard tag when you need it? Do you know the definition of “chord”?

  142. MollyA says:

    I read that it was the testimony of an Israeli pilot, who had been ordered to fire on the USS Liberty even though he knew it was American and not an enemy, that proved LBJ was responsible. The pilot had been shocked and resisted the order. I forget whether he did or not, or whether another pilot started the attack. LBJ threatened the Israeli air force. Questionable as many of their motives may have been, they had no desire to fire on a major, official ally. What an evil lot of presidents we’ve had between LBJ and Obama. I do believe Trump truly wants to stop this trail of traitors. I pray he will succeed.

  143. Nuncle says:

    There were quite a few other suspicious deaths in the US in the late ’40s, including a few suicides that seem highly improbable. Forrestal was the most important, but by no means the only one.

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