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The 2020 election was another round of backlash politics.

Asians and Hispanics moved toward Trump like White working class voters have in the past mainly because of all the Antifa and Black Lives Matter violence and chaos. Ron Unz has called it the toxic relationship between White liberals and blacks. Different groups of White voters, however, moved against Trump for various reasons. There was the long awaited libtard backlash over “white supremacy.” There was a backlash from seniors over COVID. There was a backlash from college-educated White voters who think Trump is a moron. There was also a populist backlash from disgruntled Independents.


“Donald Trump lost the presidency, but showed Republicans a way to win the culture wars with working-class Hispanics.

Despite four years of being defined as a racist for his rhetoric and harsh immigration policies, Trump improved his margins in 78 of the nation’s 100 majority-Hispanic counties. And he did better with Latinos in exit polls of each of the top 10 battleground states, a POLITICO review of election data found.

Joe Biden still won Latino voters overall. But as post-election data trickles in, Democrats are growing concerned. Trump’s notable gains weren’t limited to Miami’s Cuban Americans or border-region Tejanos. Although Florida and Texas stood out for the notable shift, Puerto Ricans as far away as Philadelphia and Mexican Americans in Milwaukee drifted Trump-ward.

Trump improved his showing among Latinos by scaling back some of his immigration rhetoric and engaging in a sustained bilingual social media and TV ad campaign that courted Latinos based on place of origin, gender and religion. …

Amid the backdrop of the Black Lives Matter protests and the sputtering economy during the pandemic, Trump’s campaign found that Latinos were almost as receptive as non-Hispanic whites to a pro-police and pro-jobs message. …

“Let’s face it, ‘defund the police’ is just not the best slogan, especially in a place like Miami, where a lot of people work in law enforcement, or along the border of Texas, where Latinos are in Border Patrol,” said Jose Parra, founder of the consultancy Prospero Latino and a past adviser to Democratic Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada. …

“About 97 percent of Latinos don’t say ‘Latinx,’” Zaragoza said, referring to a Pew Research poll on the subject. “We’re building strategies around young progressive activists and organizations — and they’re necessary and we appreciate what they do. ” …

Biden did far better with Hispanic voters in the more-populous Latino-heavy areas around Houston, Dallas and San Antonio.But overall, Trump lost the nation’s majority-Hispanic counties by a combined 12-point margin to Biden. In 2016, Trump lost them by 20 points. …

“What Trump did is understand the basic values of Hispanics,” said Cuellar, a conservative Democrat who survived a primary challenge by the Justice Democrats group that helped propel Ocasio-Cortez to Congress. He said Latinos along the border are deeply patriotic, pro-business and favor fossil fuel development because of the jobs it brings, he said. Oil industry jobs and law enforcement were the top two issues Republicans ran on. …

They’re “working people who believe that the people that Trump is against are just crazy.” Rubio said. “‘They want to defund the police. They defend rioters.’”

This has rightly been seen as one of the most interesting swings in the election. Did you know that Donald Trump performed 9 points better in AOC’s district in the Bronx than he did in 2016?

If you are a Hispanic voter, the obsession with “white supremacy” and “systematic racism” and the bizarre, cult-like behavior of woke liberals putting blacks up on a pedestal and worshipping them and allowing total anarchy and chaos to reign in the streets must have been a profoundly alienating experience. “Defund the police” and “abolish ICE” and “Latinx” was a losing message for Democrats with Hispanics. Antifa and Black Lives Matter were also tearing down monuments of Catholic saints like Junípero Serra. Evidently, many Hispanics were as bewildered by what happened this summer as we were.


“Trump repeatedly called coronavirus the “China virus” and the “Kung Flu.” In tweets, rallies and press conferences, Trump, Republican leaders and right-wing media have doggedly used racial slurs to describe the virus, which originated from Wuhan, China, leading to “alarming levels” of hate crimes against Asian Americans.

Exit polls from NBC News reflected 63% of Asian American voters supported President-Elect Joe Biden and 31% voted for Trump. According to data from Edison Research, 30% of Asian Americans voted for Trump, up three percentage points from 2016. (A nearly identical increase among African Americans and Hispanic voters as well). …”

“Asian-American” is another misleading category.

In California, there were Vietnamese who switched to Trump because they liked the fact that he was aggressively anti-China. He also resonated with some high income Indians who dislike Muslims. There were also Muslims who swung toward Trump because he is aggressively anti-Iran.

(Republished from Occidental Dissent by permission of author or representative)
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  1. Hillbob says:

    Real gains? For Israel

    • Agree: Supply and Demand
  2. Realist says:

    Donald Trump Made Real Gains with Asians and Hispanics

    And many real losses with Whites.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    , @Pincher Martin
  3. Daniel H says:

    “Donald Trump lost the presidency, but showed Republicans a way to win the culture wars with working-class Hispanics.”

    The last thing one should want is for the Republicans to win at anything. THEY are the problem.

    • Agree: Aristotle
  4. anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:

    There was a backlash from college-educated White voters who think Trump is a moron.


    There was also a populist backlash from disgruntled Independents.

    Do these two groups largely overlap?

  5. anonymous[342] • Disclaimer says:

    In California, there were Vietnamese who switched to Trump because they liked the fact that he was aggressively anti-China.

    I doubt Vietnamese American voters are concerned with foreign policy.

  6. ‘Donald Trump Made Real Gains with Asians and Hispanics’

    The inference would be that we need to find a leader who can make real gains with whites.

  7. Ron Unz says:

    The very noticeable swing of Hispanics and Asians towards the Republicans is hardly mysterious…

    After all, there were mobs of white antifa and black looters rampaging through most American cities and burning parts of them down, and why would anyone normal not be strongly opposed to that sort of insanity?

    Although he was allegedly president, Trump was totally useless on the issue, except for occasionally sending out angry Tweets. But many of the leading Democrats actively endorsed the craziness, and even proposed abolishing the local police to make sure it continued in the future. So little was better than lunacy.

    It’s also interesting to discover that fewer than 1/4 of Hispanics have even *heard* of the crazy new term “Latinx” and only about 3% prefer it. Meanwhile, I’d suspect that it greatly irritates many of the remaining 97%. And maybe the Asians were a little worried they’d soon be redefined “Asianx.”

    I think the Pew results may be starting to get around. For the last few months my very PC local newspapers the SJ Mercury News and the SF Chronicle have always been using “Latinx” which looked ridulous to me. But this morning, something strange happened. They had a couple of articles quoting local California government health officials about Covid-19, and the officials would naturally use “Latinx” just like their superiors told them. But the reporters themselves always used “Latino” in the same articles, which looked very peculiar. Maybe in another week or two, the government officials will drop the “Latinx” nonsense.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Thanks: TKK
  8. Most all of the reasons bandied about for the rise in Hispanic support for Trump are valid, but in my opinion the nut of it is that a third of American Hispanics are Republican-friendly, and this election saw them return to the GOP after not voting for Trump in 2016 because he was allegedly the worst thing in the world, ’64 Goldwater meets David Duke.

    Once he actually took office, he was not as bad as predicted (which would have been rather impossible due to the apocalyptic nature of such predictions). Rather, he was a relatively normal Republican president, and that 10 or so percent of Hispanics that curved the GOP in 2016 felt comfortable voting for him.

    (I do admit that the South Texas voters were by and large historic Democrats, so that’s a different matter entirely)

    • Agree: Aristotle
  9. KenR says:

    Here we go again, analyzing garbage data. All this analysis Brad has done is of exit polling data and voter data.

    I have to ask again how does one trust the dataset?

    The state of polling is seriously challenged these days to say the least. It’s so bad indeed that I’ll make a renewed plea to return to the auguries of Ancient Rome, for as troubling as that is, it may yet have a better track record.

    Meanwhile this election was so riven with apparent fraud and such a large pile of improbabilities that it frankly defies sober analysis.

    “Garbage in, garbage out” is the motto of concern here.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Troll: JohnPlywood
  10. There are elements of common-sense still alive in this country. The two-party system (duopoly) is currently running on fumes. Paycheck John and Jane are looking around and some of them have concluded that those prostiticians are not there for them, but are out to kiss the heinies of their major campaign donors and the RNC and DNC shotcallers—all of them working for highest international finance (Big Brother and the Holding Company).

    “Fake news” and “Deep \$tate” have become household terms. The elements are there for an awakening. Can the Populist revolt turn into something more? Will disgust and anger overcome the imposition of fear by the Plandemic and the constant propaganda barrage via the mass-media of mesmerization and mind-control? Those who are among the awakening everyday Americans of every race, gender and (add your own term of division) are beginning to look at things as a matter of survival. Woke versus Awakening. That is the new dividing line.

    Common sense is reawakening. The Elite are getting nervous.

  11. nsa says:

    If only the maga rallies had hired a mariachi band, and Senor Donaldo had worn a red maga sombrero while attempting a Mexican hat dance instead of that lame senior arm pumping to the Village People’s ultra gay anthem, YMCA. Maybe trade that black limo in on a Chevvie low rider with hydraulics and 13″ pachuco rims. The old coot might have corralled in 90% of the beaner vote and kept his job.

    • LOL: TKK
  12. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Leaf blowers, lawn mowers, and chain saws require fossil fuels to be effective. The Democrats are the party of battery-operated or plug-in leaf blowers. (abolish fossil fuels). I do not watch Spanish-language TV, so I do not know whether or not the Republicans made this point. If they did not, it cost them the election. My point is especially true in Covid America, where there are fewer jobs for busboys, and so on.

  13. Anon7 says:

    I don’t think Trump ever understood the power of his major issue, namely, the disaster of illegal and legal immigration. He put his finger right on it, in 2016, though.

    Are there really that many whites who couldn’t distinguish between a Trump presidency and a Biden/Harris presidency, and what will happen to the country now that Trump is as good as gone?

    I doubt Biden could have lost this election, though. Just look at his behavior; it said that the fix was in. Too many Democrat cities with opaque election systems that can’t be effectively audited.

    • Agree: Realist
  14. Again, Brad Griffin is Hunter Wallace of Occidental Dissent, I call him Hunter because I don’t like using his real name because I value his privacy.

    Hunter has been wrong again and again, he supports lockdowns and call people conspiracy theorists for pointing out the COVID scam. He ordered his readers to stand down and not vote for Trump, this during a colour revolution and later coup. YOU NEVER STAND DOWN in the face of the oligarchy, and their queer, BLM anti-fa revolution. I’m not saying you should go out and engage them pre election theft. But now is the time to mass mobilize and protest the steal, something Hunter denies and he gleefully celebrates Biden’s victory because he thinks it proves him right, and dismissed election fraud, or at least never mentions it. He is the Michael Shermer of the right. A populist/nationalist who doesn’t protest Global Oligarch scams like COVID lockdowns and election theft. He also pals around with the degenerate, highly punch-able face of Richard Spencer, who called Liberals who can’t even have a coherent speech because objections to points of “privilege” are made so often that people cannot even talk, as they make jazz hands, “clearly more competent people” and supported Biden because of his crime bill as “BASED”. Biden signs anything in front of him, whether its the crime bill or now taking away free speech and hardcore lockdowns. Spencer also complained disingenuously that Trump was too pro-LGBT despite Spencer hiring a pederast who wrote a book about man-boy love with Jesus in semen stains on the cover. Spencer is a wannabe elitist who will never be part of the club, and supports mandatory vax and corona lockdowns. Spencer is a bad faith player in Nationalist and Populist politics. Hunter appears with him on numerous live streams. While Hunter is correct Trump lost some white vote, he still won by large margins, only that voter fraud in the dead of the night change his win into a loss. He calls me a “Conspiracy Theorist” even though I deal in facts. The Piezcenik QAnon lie that the election was a sting with watermarked encrypted ballots is a lie, HAMMER is a lie. I check my facts and don’t fall to junk conspiracy. Hunter however thinks real things like the Great Reset, which has books, a podcast, and numerous white papers, or at least his sycophants, think is a junk conspiracy. Obviously this is total out in the open, and its a rebranding of the Global Warming man made CO2 hoax. I am really disappointed in him and his blog, with paragraph or shorter articles and his vicious attacks on the Stormer, who got COVID right even before I did. I waited for the facts on COVID and it turned out Anglin was right. You can complain about his tone, whatever, but he was right about COVID before me, because I waited for the numbers. Fauci’s article in the New England Journal of Medicine in March 2020 he stated it was 0,3% fatal and like a bad flu, but he went on TV and predicted death and dismay, despite telling his professional colleagues something different, he is an employee of Gill Bates, a piece of shit asshat who never made anything and got rich off his mom’s connections to the IBM CEO, bought DOS for 25K, never was a good programmer.

    • Agree: Angharad
  15. ziggurat says:

    I just don’t see any great gains here.

    I recall that Trafalgar was predicting as much as 40% of the black vote. Trump got 8% in 2020, which was the same % as 2016. If Trump manages to seize a victory out of the jaws of defeat, he should look to Jared Kushner and say “you’re fired.”

    Regarding latinos, he got 35% in 2020 and 27% in 2016. That’s better, but I think that’s just because the Democratic party worked extra hard on the Sailer Strategy of turning itself into the pro-black party. In addition, they added “pro-riot” and “anti-police” to their mix.

    But even so, he only got 35% of the latino vote in 2020.

    Other non-white racial groups voted 39% for Trump in 2020. (From what I can tell, it was roughly 31% in 2016.) That is a signficant improvement, but it is only 6% of the voting electorate.

    But sigh, whites went from 57% to 55%. Maybe Republicans should focus on the white vote, which is still 74% of the voting electorate. Try running on getting rid of affirmative action, as it is racist against whites and asians. Keep banging the drums on reducing immigration, which would be popular among whites. Maybe you’ll lose some of the other non-whites, but it just cannot get much worse.

    Overall, Trump got 26% of the non-white vote in 2020 versus 21% in 2016.

    Of course, I don’t know if Fox has the best polls. CNN weirdly shows that Trump improved on every ethnic group, including whites. I guess it’s possible, if the voting distribution were different throughout the country. Or if there was massive fraud.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  16. Dumbo says:

    “Donald Trump lost the presidency, but showed Republicans a way to win the culture wars with working-class Hispanics.”

    LOL. Conservatives, not conserving anything since 1865. They can’t even conserve the population of their own country! How can those morons win any “culture wars”? Sure, Juan and Pedro will vote Republicano. I bet in Mexico there’s a “conservative” party too.

  17. Nisbe says:
    @Ron Unz

    Trump offered to send in the federal cavalry, but unfortunately the D party mayors refused.

    Great site BTW Mr. Unz, thanks for all the wonderful resources you give us access to for free. Wish you a great day!

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  18. @Realist

    Exactly. Why care about the game within the game? The point is to win elections.

    One can invert the title above to “Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016 with fewer Asian and Hispanic votes and he lost the presidency in 2020 with more of their votes.”

    Why? Because in both elections, the white vote was more important. Trump’s incompetent presidency polarized enough suburban whites to gin up the voter turnout and turn slight winning margins in the Rust Belt in 2016 into slight losing margins in 2020.

    And that was the election.

    Lesson? Don’t get distracted by the game within the game.

    Key piece of trivia: Half of Joe Biden’s votes were cast by whites.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Realist
  19. Daniel H says:
    @Ron Unz

    Maybe in another week or two, the government officials will drop the “Latinx” nonsense.

    I hope not. It’s better to let the fever run its course.

  20. Twinkie says:

    Maybe Audacious Epigone will post 2020 breakdown of the following 2016 numbers and give us a good clue as to how the “Asian” vote in America cut across:

    I think the Cuban vote was up to something like 57% for Trump (from 49% in 2016).

    In California, there were Vietnamese who switched to Trump because they liked the fact that he was aggressively anti-China. He also resonated with some high income Indians who dislike Muslims. There were also Muslims who swung toward Trump because he is aggressively anti-Iran.

    Asians shifted nationally for Trump from 2016, but California Asians did not.

    Indians are persistently the lowest Republican-voting Asian group (Hindu Indians ID at even lower rate for the GOP per Pew).

    Muslims are something like 1% of the electorate. Does it really matter if some small fraction of them shifted toward Trump?

  21. Icy Blast says:

    Have you ever met a Vietnamese person?

  22. Juri says:

    Could anybody explain, what those whites hoping to get from Joe and Kamala ?

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  23. @anonymous

    Vietnam had to fight off the Chinese for hundreds of years. They haven’t forgotten.
    Their views about China would be related to that.

  24. Vietnamese in the US and in Vietnam are about 100% behind Trump. How do I know this? My wife is from Vietnam. She had no interest in politics until this election and is now obsessed with it along with all her friends and family. Reads Breitbart for crying out loud. I don’t need to follow politics anymore because when I get home from work she fills me in on the latest outrage, something something Tucker Carlson. Having grown up in a socialist country she is really dejected at the prospects of a Biden presidency. Vietnamese are also fed up with black predators targeting their homes and businesses, a topic never mentioned in the media but I could tell you about some recent crimes that would turn your stomach.

  25. @anonymous

    They are obsessed with it and support Trump because he stood up against their eternal enemy China.They also like his can-do business attitude vs enforced equality and gibs for all.

  26. Jimmydan says:

    It is probably backlash against hyprocrats democrats (hypocrite) who take blacks and minorities for granted and believe that these people have no place to go to.
    Trump is not liked by the minorities but his stance against the good old Democratic establishment is well received by marginalized population.
    It is the Pelosi and Schumer alike who are literally forcing the minorities into Trump camp. I would like to see Brenon, Clapper and Obama’s Zionist gang prosecuted and that is why Trump gets my attention. I also support Trump’s prosecution for his illegal activities.

  27. The focus should be on assimilation – turning anyone who could identify as a “White” into a self-identified White.

    The next objective should be to concentrate on getting as many White votes as possible.

    Openly attempting to win foreign (e.g. Latino) votes is just clear treason, and is playing into the ruling class’s divide and rule treason/scam.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  28. Indians hate Muslims so they went for Trump, Muslims hate Iranians so they went for Trump, Iranians hate Israelis so they went for Trump, and Israelis hate themselves so they too went for Trump… what a circus!

  29. Realist says:
    @Pincher Martin

    Excellent points. This country is in deep crap.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  30. Z-man says:

    Trump was robbed! If you eliminate Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia and Atlanta, all ballot stuffing Third World towns, Trump won in a landslide, Electoral college wise.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Stonehands
  31. So I guess that means we open the borders so the new GOP can get voters. The Koch bro is happy.

  32. Nisbe says:

    They are just self flagelating due to the anti-White hate cultural Marxism has conditioned them with (read Culture of Critique, here: )

    Also lots of them unironically think they have a higher chance to get laid if they virtue signal hard enough. I gest. Kinda.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
  33. Oh great! The GOP is getting support from people who shouldn’t even be in our country!

    So, let’s pander even MORE to blacks and hispanics! Let’s give them free stuff! Let’s outdo the Democrats!

    That’ll show them!

    Meanwhile…..whites are more and more marginalized and disenfranchised……


    • Replies: @Nisbe
  34. Jesus Christo… Look at the complete banquet of what you have here to try to figure out why the polyglot boarding house, so favored by the owner of this website advocates, might have voted for Trump… Vietnamese this, Latinos that, Muslims something else..

    You know why Latinos might be favoring Trump Unz? Because they have to compete with the waves of “immigrants” that people like you want to open the border for.

    That is right Unz… blue collar workers get their wages reduced because the next wave or the next and next and next will provide more cheap labor. See supply and demand. Did they teach you that in Hahvad?

    You are always looking at your local Mexicans and declaring immigration good… well Unz.. immigration for the past ten years has been from even worse shtholes south of the Mexican border. So your Mexicans with jobs in the trades such as painting, landscaping, framing and dry walling, have to compete with poor immigrants coming in.

    So a border wall is something they want. Cesar Chavez used to beat up illegals… he knew that endless scab labor was no bueno…

    I doubt Latinos gave a crap about blacks and idiot white rioting one way or another..

  35. SteveK9 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Lived in Brownsville, Texas for 2 years. Doesn’t get any more Hispanic (Mexican) than that (98% Mexican or Mexican American). And, I was a little surprised at both the conservatism and frankly the patriotism. My impression is that many of them are happy to assimilate and be Americans who are ethnically Mexican, not Mexicans who happen to live in America.

    • Replies: @Anon
  36. Asians and Hispanics were (partly) drawn to Trump because they saw it would benefit their racial interests, sometimes overtly.

    Whites, OTOH, were offered nothing, with predictable results.

  37. Anon[331] • Disclaimer says:

    The group that might want to rethink their allegiance to the Democrat wing of the uni-party is Asians..
    They are going on a new round of diversity quota rampage post the death of St Floyd which gave them the impetus to fire the systematic race bull excrement up to fever pitch..

    Asians are not on the most favored minority status yet… not enough of a voting bloc.. also they present some problems to the other pets… If you couple quotas for elites colleges and jobs with achievement they drowned out the Dems other favorite pets, the two more important to keeping their wing in power…

    Look at the challenge to Harvard and other elite schools, that Ronnie Unz is so concerned with from Asians who rightfully say that they get to compete for other asians for the forty percent of the quota they are alloted..

    So they are getting screwed by their allegiance to the smarter, more evil and calculating wing of the uni-party, the Democrats…

    They probably do so because they figure they can work the system better with the Dems… plus given how much they worship the education system, a system in America that serves up Critical Race Theory, they are likely more prone to its brainwashing.. especially the females..

    The GOP is probably going to capture more and more Asians votes though as long as the Dems don’t figure out how to structure Affirmative Action programs and get Asians in the tent… Might be done the way they do it for upper middle class white women.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  38. @Nisbe

    Trump could have and should have overruled those idiotic democrat mayors and governors by dusting off the Insurrection Act. Mr. Unz correctly says that the president “was totally useless on the issue, except for occasionally sending out angry tweets.” How can Trump call himself the Law and Order president when he allowed widespread rioting and looting to go on for months?

    I have no way of knowing if Trump backed off from sending in the military (which I think he wanted to) because Esper and General Milley objected to the way they were used to scatter protesters, only days after the White House gate was nearly breached by rock throwing rioters. IF that is the case, then it would also be a failure to take command in a time of deep domestic crisis. Trump waited until after the election to fire Esper and others in the War Dept. who conspired against him. Too little, too late.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  39. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    Donald Trump Made Real Gains with Asians and Hispanics

    Who cares?

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @AKINDLE
  40. @Anon

    I used to have a very close relationship with an Asian friend from college. He is super rich and he sent his kids to the elite school that we graduated from. His wife and kids are far left nutcases. The wife constantly virtue signals to the point of insanity. She gives to black and mexican causes, and the kids volunteer for mexican causes as well.

    It’s totally nuts.

    My old friend is a capitalist to the core…but he generally accepts the leftist bullshit as well.

    I actually had to break off the friendship when he confided in me that he hires illegals through a temp agency. I guess it slipped his mind that I’m an immigration activist.

    He cares nothing about America or American history. His family speaks Korean at home and they eat mostly Korean food and dine at Korean restaurants. He spends his spare time reading Korean history books and complains about the Japanese.

    In one of the last conversations I had with my old college buddy, I was trying to explain white dispossession, affirmative action, IQ differences, etc.

    I will never forget what he said, “I have white truck drivers…..they are nothing special.”

    I just about told him to fuck off.

    It was a lesson that no matter how nice non-whites have it here…..they will never have any real love for our country and they will always have a preference for their ingroup.

    By the way, this man was my friend for over 30 years before I finally figured out the truth about his real feelings regarding white people.

  41. @Robert Dolan

    Oh wow, muttmerica finally discovering that a nation is bound by blood and soil.
    Frankly though, the Korean man was far nicer to you than other huwhites have been to each others in Muttmerica OR Europe for that matter.
    Welcome and goodbye, murca. You were the necessary abomination so the world will be reminded how important real piece and true, global diversity should be. Not some melting pot.

    • Troll: Robert Dolan, KenR
  42. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    “many of them are happy to assimilate and be Americans who are ethnically Mexican, not Mexicans who happen to live in America”

    You write “many” rather than “most.” Here in “press 1 for Spanish” America, I would have felt better if you had written “most.”

  43. @Ron Unz

    Very off topic
    Does this 2004 book merit reading ?
    Perhaps you could post it ?

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  44. Republicans may already be close to their limit of capturing the White vote. I’m in Seattle – and trust me – most of these self-hating fundamentalist Whites are too far gone. Maybe the pendulum could swing away from the current religious fervor to a more moderate progressivism, but I don’t see these Whites ever supporting ‘White interests’.

    For Republicans the best, and maybe only, hope is a hard and fast shift away from 80’s era policy of taxes/war/big business etc and towards populism. Working class Hispanics are more likely to go populist than White urban leftists are to go for ‘White interests’. Otherwise it’s the unstoppable march towards Californication. The only bright spot being that the recent ballot initiatives in California suggest that while Browns and Asians may tribally identify as Democrats they’re not exactly leftists (eg see the failure of the Affirmative Action initiative).

    For Core/Anglo White America the best long-term strategy is to continue to outbreed the leftists (so far so good) and self sort to places like Idaho. Keep it going for a hundred years or so and the True America may find rebirth in the mountain states. I’m rooting for you (Israel can F-ck itself).

  45. @Houston 1992

    Old as that book is, it only has one rating on Amazon – 2 stars – and the commenter said he ordered it by mistake. At a hardcover price of \$907.99 (no Kindle) I don’t think there will be many takers.

  46. Lurking says:
    @Robert Dolan

    His wife and kids are far left nutcases. The wife constantly virtue signals to the point of insanity. She gives to black and mexican causes, and the kids volunteer for mexican causes as well.

    It was a lesson that no matter how nice non-whites have it here…..they will never have any real love for our country and they will always have a preference for their ingroup.

    Your anecdote contradicts itself.

    It’s probably more accurate to say that your ex-friend and his family have assimilated to American culture just fine. Your problem is that they assimilated to the woke progressive aspects of America, which dominate in the area where they live.

    • Agree: GreatSocialist
    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  47. @Nisbe

    Give it a rest, buddy.

    Normal white Americans who don’t sell tacos/troll for a living voted for Biden, because Biden is their candidate.

    Trump is the candidate of methheads, females who own taco stands and small wineries, illegal immigrant fruit pickers, RussiaChina, and Asian liquor store owners. You voted for him because you wanted a tax break and an end to the shutdown — at the expense of making America look worse than the third world countries who beat COVID-19.

    Just fuck off and die already. Trump lost, fair and sqaure. Minorities and their taco stands lost.
    Biden/Harris… The white power ticket.

    • Troll: KenR
    • Replies: @Nisbe
    , @TKK
  48. @Lurking

    It would be even more accurate to say that they have been brainwashed by Jewish academics and the Jewish media… now they have anti-white Jewbrain.

    Your observation is correct…..their actual ingroup is composed of anti-whites like themselves…..but this was learned behavior and not some naturally occurring phenomenon.

    In any case, they are radically opposed to traditional white Christian America.

    I had almost the very same experience with an Hispanic “friend” who turned out to be viciously anti-white as well. The last straw was when he proclaimed that, “White people are a cancer on the face of the earth.” Of course I later discovered where he got that quote, and it was Susan Sontag.

    Every. single. time.

  49. Agent76 says:

    “Who controls the issuance of money controls the government!” Nathan Meyer Rothschild

    Aug 29, 2020 Black Voters Break the Narrative

    These black voters are breaking the MSM narrative about Trump and BLM

    Feb 2, 2020 Criminal Justice Reform

    President Donald J. Trump has accomplished historic criminal justice reform in just his first term in office. Increasing job training for inmates, shortened sentences, and giving second chances to those that truly deserve it.

  50. Just shoot me. Will this madness ever end?

  51. I’m not a math person. Does this make any sense?

    Video Link

  52. @Z-man

    Prove it. You think you’ll overturn anything with indignation alone?

    But you’ll keep voting and emailing your legislators- because- law & order!

    Right, YT?

    • Replies: @Z-man
  53. Nisbe says:

    Poor quality comment. Name calling is no argument.

    To further drive home the fact that the modern anti-White movement is literally a result of a massive psychological operation being perpetrated by Jewish dominated MSM, Hollywood and academia, take a look at one of the Jewish subversive intellectuals that has been responsible for turning inumerous college students into anti-White useful idiots:

    The tolerance which enlarged the range and content of freedom was always partisan – intolerant toward the protagonists of the repressive status quo. … Can the indiscriminate guaranty of political rights and liberties be repressive? Can such tolerance serve to contain qualitative social change? … When tolerance mainly serves the protection and preservation of a repressive society, when it serves to neutralize opposition and to render men immune against other and better forms of life, then tolerance has been perverted. … Liberating tolerance, then, would mean intolerance against movements from the Right and toleration of movements from the Left.

    – Herbert Marcuse, Repressive Tolerance

    This is the doctrine that brainwashes the modern anti-White into accepting the narrative that they can hate on Whites freely and be racist against them without defining themselves as racists.

    Another quote:

    The prescription that gentile society adopt a social organization based on radical individualism would indeed be an excellent strategy for the continuation of Judaism as a cohesive, collectivist group strategy. Research summarized by Triandis (1990, 1991) on cross-cultural differences in individualism and collectivism indicates that anti-Semitism would be lowest in individualist societies rather than societies that are collectivist and homogeneous apart from Jews. A theme of PTSDA (Ch. 8) is that European societies (with the notable exceptions of the National Socialist era in Germany and the medieval period of Christian religious hegemony—both periods of intense anti-Semitism) have been unique among the economically advanced traditional and modern cultures of the world in their commitment to individualism. As I have argued in SAID (Chs. 3–5), the presence of Judaism as a highly successful and salient group strategy provokes anti-individualist responses from gentile societies.

    Collectivist cultures (and Triandis [1990, 57] explicitly includes Judaism in this category) place a much greater emphasis on the goals and needs of the ingroup rather than on individual rights and interests. Collectivist cultures develop an “unquestioned attachment” to the ingroup, including “the perception that ingroup norms are universally valid (a form of ethnocentrism), automatic obedience to ingroup authorities, and willingness to fight and die for the ingroup. These characteristics are usually associated with distrust of and unwillingness to cooperate with outgroups” (p. 55). In collectivist cultures morality is conceptualized as that which benefits the group, and aggression and exploitation of outgroups are acceptable (Triandis 1990, 90).

    People in individualist cultures, in contrast, show little emotional attachment to ingroups. Personal goals are paramount, and socialization emphasizes the importance of self-reliance, independence, individual responsibility, and “finding yourself” (Triandis 1991, 82). Individualists have more positive attitudes toward strangers and outgroup members and are more likely to behave in a prosocial, altruistic manner to strangers. Because they are less aware of ingroup-outgroup boundaries, people in individualist cultures are less likely to have negative attitudes toward outgroup members (1991, 80). They often disagree with ingroup policy, show little emotional commitment or loyalty to ingroups, and do not have a sense of common fate with other ingroup members. Opposition to outgroups occurs in individualist societies, but the opposition is more “rational” in the sense that there is less of a tendency to suppose that all of the outgroup members are culpable for the misdeeds of a few. Individualists form mild attachments to many groups, whereas collectivists have an intense attachment and identification to a few ingroups (1990, 61).

    – Kevin MacDonald, Culture of Critique

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  54. Nisbe says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The 1965 Immigration Act needs to be revoked.

    Pic related:

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  55. anon[193] • Disclaimer says:

    Did Sidney Powell lose her credibility by naming too many countries? From Venezuela to China, Cuba, Hong Kong, Iran, Serbia, Canada, communists, George Soros…how many more are there?

    I’ve thought from the start that Trump’s case would be more incredible if he didn’t involve foreign countries. Maybe it’s good that he’s distancing himself from Powell.

  56. First Three picks for Biden Cabinet…

    Blinken, Yellen and Kohn (((Kerry))). All Jews.

    Is anyone surprised?

    Wake Up America. The Jews stole this Country long ago.

    • Agree: Angharad
  57. Art says:

    Donald Trump Made Real Gains with Asians and Hispanics

    So what? Trump did not do as well with whites, as in 2016 – and he lost the election. Here is an explanation.

    In 2016 Trump voiced Steve Bannon’s US populist politics. Trump/Bannon was a winner.

    In 2020 Trump voiced Jared Kushner’s Jew identity politics. Trump/Kushner is a loser.

    Bannon expressed a Christian midwestern American ethos. Kushner pushed divisional Jew ethics.

    Right from the start, within months, Christians Bannon and Christi were replaced through Kushner’s advice.

    Without question Kushner moved Trump away from his Christian voter base.

    • Agree: Pincher Martin
    • Replies: @Angharad
  58. Donald Trump Made Real Gains with Asians and Hispanics….

    … and all he’s getting is an orange jumpsuit. How appropriate.

  59. Nisbe says:

    Demographics are destiny.

    VoxDay says the US will breakup around 2033.

    IMHO if the demographic issue is not solved in time, it is unavoidlable, that’s for sure, tower of Babel kind of situation.

  60. Nisbe says:

    Trump is getting the 2nd mandate because Biden’s handlers tried to steal the election, and there is evidence that proves it.



    It’s infuriating that these media morons a) won’t accept the simple statement without evidence, then b) reject the evidence because it’s too complicated for them.

    FFS, the mere fact that Stratamatic and Dominion are blatantly lying about who owns what technology and where it is should be enough to convince any rational being with an IQ over 100 that they are, at a bare minimum, trying to hide something in response to the vote-shifting allegations. Whether that is enough will have to wait for the relevant court filings and eventual investigations, but it’s pretty freaking huge to produce evidence that the CIA has been manipulating elections everywhere from the Philippines to Venezuela for years using voting machines, and that it appears to have been manipulating US elections too.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
  61. TKK says:

    Are you hitting the meth pipe?

    Because Biden and power are two words I have never remotely associated with each other.

    Unless it would be a power wheel chair, or a powerful dose of Ensure.

    • LOL: Nisbe
  62. Angharad says:

    It doesn’t matter. Jews won decades ago.

    • Replies: @Nisbe
  63. @Ron Unz

    Never heard of Latinx before, so I did a quick search and found it stupid. It’s Latino for men and Latina for women. If it’s neither male not female then simply use Latin, such as Latin America.

    Luckily it’s simply Asian no matter male, female, or otherwise, so there will be no Asianx.

    The transgender activists are really getting out of hand though with their bullshxt.

  64. Z-man says:

    He was robbed by fake votes. The Dumbokratz aren’t that DUMB and we’re able to hide it. So it’s hard to prove.
    But he was robbed by the rigged media and tech giants who most all were against him and that’s easier to prove.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  65. @Nisbe

    You’re right….Sidney Powell talked about Dominion and she also mentioned “Hammer” and “Scorecard.”

    Apparently the CIA/military have been fixing elections all over the world. This time they “fixed” our election.

    The reason Trump fired Sidney Powell is because she went where you are not allowed to go, down a path that would expose the CIA, deep state Jews, and possibly Chinese influence as well.

    Trump also released the transition money to Biden….so it’s over now. Trump team talking about dead people voting is kabuki theater…..once again the big fish are getting away.

    Trump also released Jonathan Pollard so he could go to Israel as a hero….while Assange rots in jail.

    We are totally fucked.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Nisbe
  66. Nisbe says:


    If they had, you would have seen US troops dying in Iran and Syria in more useless wars for Israel.

    The best weapon the West has against international Jewery is promoting the boycott of Israel as much as they can, and do it until all zionist subversion is gone from the West.

    If the barcode starts with 729 just leave it behind. Tell everyone.

  67. TKK says:
    @Robert Dolan

    The character assignation of Powell sickened me. She was a federal prosecutor and a successful appellate attorney, feisty and committed to litigating the meat and potatoes of this election. Brave enough to take this on, and was receiving death threats.

    Thank you for that insight….I could not fathom why they would attack and demean her when they were already rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. This does not speak well of Trump. I thought he valued loyalty over all things?

    Can you imagine putting yourself on the line like this- pro bono- for him and the integrity of the election process for them to savage you and paint you as delusional?

    But sure thing Rudy- you have temporary hair dye or mascara used as hair dye running down the sides of your face in a live press briefing- but Powell is the crazy one. The woman who eeked many Enron executives out of lengthy prison stays. (Where they should have gone).


    Look at Biden’s appointments. All the fetid Swamp creatures: Kerry, Yellin, Wall Street. Entrenched D.C. hawks who never met a lobbyist they didn’t want to romance. Zombie politicians without a scintilla of decency.


  68. Trump has made no gains whatsoever with the Hispanic voter as compared to the 70/30 to 65/35 Hispanic vote, as measured over the 50-year 1968-2018 period, yet the Hispanic vote has been increased by millions even since 2016, with 70% of that increase going to Dems. Thus America may never have another conservative president ever again.

  69. Nisbe says:
    @Robert Dolan

    Trump didn’t fire Sidney, she is acting independent of the Trump campaign.

    Quote: “Sidney Powell responds — “I understand today’s press release. I will continue to represent #WeThePeople who had their votes for Trump and other Republicans stolen by massive fraud through Dominion and Smartmatic, and we will be filing suit soon. The chips will fall where they may, and we will defend the foundations of this great Republic. #KrakenOnSteroids””

    People have been saying on other sites that the reason for that is that so she can go after the people involved in the election fixing without the campaign being able to be sued for taking political prisoners, while the Trump campaign goes after the fraud itself in order to stop the steal and allow Trump to go on into his 2nd mandate. It sounds plausible to me.

    There is also this:

    CIA treason + Military tribunals = happy days

  70. @Z-man

    “But he was robbed by the rigged media and tech giants…”

    Trump empowered Twitter and gave it presidential gravitas ( and the rope to hang him with) by tweeting daily like a breathless teenager- with lots of silly punctuation!!!!!!

  71. AKINDLE says:
    @Mark Hunter

    I hear you. Republicans use polls like this to say “We need more voters!”. ” We need more immigrants! We need more Africans and Hispanics!” The pandering never ends. Face it, Trump wasn’t even close to being a pro white nationalist. Trump and the Republican party are n!gger lovin’ losers. Ever heard of a Republican that said “We need more white voters” or could even say the word “white”?

  72. @Robert Dolan

    Some people can make friends from their school and college days, but the best friends I made, apart from my spouse and kids, were made in the military. Different religions, different races, different social strata, but still willing to risk their asses to save mine if I were in trouble. Of course there were some jackasses there like Trump, but some guys I still keep in touch with after 20 years plus. And it’s like there never was any time gap between then and now.

    A friend can be wildly different from you in everything, social strata, religion , ethnicity, culture. You may not even see them for months or years at a time. But you know they will probably have your back if u ever need them.

    Even politics. Like my spouse was a Trump supporter, because of the religious aspect, and even I wasn’t against Trump initially, I even predicted he would win. But after 4 years of fucking up America and the rest of the world through his corruption and stupidity, I think he should just go and fuck his own degenerate ass all the way back to the German shithole that his grandaddy came from.

    I’m sad that u realize that Korean jackass wasn’t a good friend after so long. A good friend isn’t just one who you see often because u r in school together or because u work in the same place. Those are “acquaintances”. A friend is someone you believe u can rely upon.

    Even if the Korean didn’t agree with your politics, he should have understood that’s the way u felt and been as polite or as supportive as he could, given his own politics. He could have agreed to disagree, and still behaved as a friend to you. That he did not is his fault.

    Like I am not religious at all, but I support my spouse in church and religious activities and donate and help out with church and its outreach activities. I try to minimize differences and find common ground instead of finding arguments to have and so on.

    I also love shooting sports while my spouse does not and does not generally favor mass public ownership of firearms.

    Human beings will always have differences, but if they try to make an effort to work together, it can work. If they don’t even want to make that effort, then they are fucked up individuals like Trump who is just a human virus affecting this country.

    About Koreans, I do have a Korean friend, but as a culture, most of them are rude, misogynistic and fucked up. They are considered to be the roughest and the lowest class of all the oriental races, right at the bottom with the Taiwanese.

    If u read the history of the Korean war, u will notice South Koreans were busy massacring all the families in S Korea suspected of being friendly with the North. Young children, girls, women, were all killed with no hesitation and US soldiers were told not to interfere and just had to stand by while whole families were slaughtered, young children included.

    US soldiers testified that they felt like vomiting when they saw how their S Korean “allies” butchered whole families. Anyway the US did the same thing later, bombing N Korea and much of the South until no buildings were left standing and 1 out of every 3 N Koreans was killed. Only the entry of Chinese troops stopped a US led genocide there.

    Now that’s Korea for you. It’s not K-POP all the time, you know.

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