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See also: Unless The GOP Learns To Handle Anti-White Race-Baiting Attacks, It’s Done—And So Is The Historic American Nation

A recent poll finds black Democrat Andrew Gillum is building a comfortable lead over white Republican Ron DeSantis in the Florida governor’s race. [New poll shows Gillum leading DeSantis by 6 points, by Tim Swift, Local 10, September 19, 2018] As Conservatism Inc. never ceases to remind its dwindling constituency, Gillum is, like other Democrats this election cycle, essentially a socialist, and DeSantis is a “Reagan conservative”. [For a Florida Governor, It’s a Reagan Conservative vs. a Sanders Socialist, by Neal Freeman, National Review, September 5, 2018] But it’s not 1980 anymore and Gillum’s campaigning for what Governing’s Graham Vyse correctly calls “key Democratic Socialist priorities” isn’t scaring away voters. [How Democratic Socialists Performed in State and Local Primaries, September 20, 2018] The truth is that politics has changed, campaigns are now about identity and demographics, and DeSantis, like the Stupid Party generally, has no idea how to handle it.

Thus DeSantis is currently plagued with yet another case of what the System Main Stream Media terms a “racial controversy.” A supporter, Steven M. Alembik, tweeted “F— THE MUSLIM N—–” after a typically sanctimonious Barack Obama speech, leading the DeSantis campaign immediately to perform a full grovel. This was particularly stupid because Alembik is Jewish (“I grew up in New York in the ’50s. We were the kikes. They were the n——. They were the goyim. And those were the spics”.) and an adroit defense of him, for example attributing his hostility to Islam to his obviously passionate concern for Israel, would have helped DeSantis with a powerful Florida constituency. [New racial controversy batters DeSantis, by Mark Caputo, September 20, 2018]

And as Politico’s Marc Caputo gloats, this is only the latest “racial controversy” of DeSantis’s campaign, with the first being when DeSantis used the phrase “monkey this up” about the likely effect of DeSantis’s economic policies. Caputo intoned:

[T]he pattern of racial controversies, including the Alembik remarks, highlights a problem that is getting harder to overlook in this racially diverse swing state: Despite DeSantis’ denunciations of bigotry, this is the fifth-race related issue concerning the candidate, the campaign or one of its supporters to erupt since the start of the general election campaign.

The passage is revealing, though not in the way Caputo intends. The reality is this: Because the Democrats have nominated a black candidate, everything DeSantis says or does is going to be called “racist,” no matter how energetically he “denounces bigotry.”

What’s more, just as the Republican Establishment’s refusal to fight back against the disgusting attacks on Roy Moore ultimately enabled the current smear against prospective justice Brett Kavanaugh, each grovel by DeSantis simply enables the next attack.

For example, DeSantis called on Kathy Gibson, an Orlando-area GOP official, to resign for a “disgusting” Facebook post that suggested Gillum was seeking reparations: “Andrew Gillum says when he wins governor of Florida… ‘his people’ will be getting ‘paid back’ for slavery. [Disgusting’: DeSantis wants GOP official to resign for Facebook post saying Gillum wants slavery paybacks, by Marc Caputo, Politico, September 4, 2018]

But while Gillum is not technically part of the Democratic Socialists of America, he did not disavow their support and the DSA does support reparations for slavery. [Are the Democratic Socialists of America For Real? By Kate Aronoff, The New Republic, August 7, 2017] And reparations is also taken for granted as desirable among Leftist journalists and chattering classes. [The Case for Reparations, by Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Atlantic, June 2014]

Thus it would have been very easy for DeSantis to say that it’s a legitimate question whether Gillum, like the DSA, supports reparations [DSA voters for BDS, Reparations, and Out of the Socialist International, by Juan Cruz Ferre, LeftVoice, August 5, 2017].

Of course, it’s also hypocritical for DeSantis to be demanding people resign for Politically Incorrect Facebook posts when DeSantis himself was exposed as the administrator of a Facebook group that posted offensive memes and had to lamely say he didn’t know he was part of it. [Did Ron DeSantis moderate a far right Facebook group, by Emily Mahoney, Tampa Bay Times, August 31, 2018]

DeSantis’s breast=beating disavowals certainly did not get him a single vote, probably discouraged his white base, and will inevitably encourage the next Main Stream Media hit piece.

Just hoping that voters will notice Gillum is aligned with ideological extremists isn’t going to work when the System media/ Democrat Enforcers are on a hunt for every single staffer, supporter and well-wisher of DeSantis who has ever said anything Politically Incorrect. DeSantis will be stuck disavowing his own supporters until election day. He is even being called to account for robocalls he had absolutely nothing to do with. [White supremacist group’s robocalls target Florida governor candidate Andrew Gillum, by Alex Seitz-Wald, NBC News, August 31, 2018]

Nor is pointing to the FBI’s investigation into Gillum for corruption going to be effective—because the System media will not give the story the same kind of obsessive coverage they do if a DeSantis supporter says a mean word on Facebook. [FBI probe casts shadow Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum, CBS, September 4, 2018]

Dylan Scott argues in Vox that “Democrats and Republicans are both running on identity politics” [September 21, 2018]. Yet this isn’t really true. Nationally, rather than taking strong action on immigration, President Trump and the GOP Congress seem content to lie back and assume the strong economy will somehow let them keep control. [Kudlow: Economy will help GOP keep its grip on House, by Ben White, Politico, August 14, 2018] Even Trump himself is forever crowing about low black unemployment rates, to the utter indifference of African-American voters. A recent poll suggests 93 percent disapprove of him and 80 percent support impeachment. [Poll: Disapproval of Trump, impeachment support highest with black voters, by Lissa Poirot, Philadelphia Tribune, August 31, 2018]


In Florida specifically, while Gillum is advancing bold (whatever one thinks of them) proposals such as “Medicare for all,” DeSantis is recycling the same tired slogans about “cutting bureaucracy” and “school choice” that Republicans have been hearing for decades. [Ron DeSantis education plan: Cut bureaucracy, back school choice, by Gray Rohrer, Orlando Sentinel, September 18, 2018] He is making no explicit appeal to Florida’s white majority.

To some extent, DeSantis is at a disadvantage because of recent demographic change. Democrats are benefiting from a huge wave of Puerto Rican Failure Migration in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria and that commonwealth’s incompetent Third World government. Of course, like dependents everywhere, these Failure Migrants will likely vote to install the exact same system as the one they just escaped. Democrats gleefully expect Puerto Ricans to tip the balance in the Sunshine State. [Puerto Rico hurricane migrants may be wild card in U.S. elections, by Sebastien Malo and Adriana Brasileiro, Reuters, March 28, 2018]

DeSantis can still win by turning out white voters and pushing back aggressively against media bias. However, just as he’s succumbing to MSM narratives again and again, he’s also unilaterally disarmed himself on the immigration issue, and likely suppressed white turnout, with his choice of an anti-Trump Hispanic running mate, Jeanette Nunez. She once tweeted Donald Trump was a “conman” and suggested he supported the Ku Klux Klan and also supported in-state tuition for illegal immigrants. [Ron DeSantis’ running mate Jeanette Nunez once called Trump a ‘con-man.’ Here’s what you need to know, by Skyler Swisher, Sun Sentinel, September 6, 2018]

If picking her was supposed to prevent the MSM from calling DeSantis racist, it has clearly failed. But how can he now campaign against illegal immigration (although it makes a desultory appearance on his webpage)?

In a ferociously anti-white piece in UVA Hoax magazine Rolling Stone, homosexual scalawag hack Bob Moser joyfully notes that the South has become “increasingly diverse” and thus Democrats can dispense with the centrist posturing that fooled the naïve white rubes in the past: “The Republicans have no clue—I mean, none—how to counter the rise of Southern Democrats,” he crows. [How the South’s New Progressives Are Taking On the GOP, September 19, 2018]

Which is not wrong, though it’s more accurate to say that Republicans have no idea how to counter race-driven controversies in an age of identity politics. Instead, they immediately surrender.

The great irony: they would have a clue if they just looked at how President Trump won in 2016. He campaigned something like the real Southern Democrats of the past by appealing to working class voters, dispensing with wonkish rhetoric about free markets, talking tough on immigration and identity, and never giving an inch when it came to the media.

Unfortunately, since taking office, President Trump has largely governed like just another Republican. Now, in Florida, DeSantis is campaigning like one.

Unless he changes, it’s going to cost him—and, ultimately, America—everything.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

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  1. Rational says:


    Great article, Sir.

    Stupid party being stupid again, trying to play nice to the left wing media.

    Blacks and Mexis and liberals will never vote Republican, so there is no point in pandering them.

    • Replies: @Allan
    , @JamesinNM
  2. Is there a parallel with esp. Malema’s EFF in South Africa and this new socialist/ Marxist identity politics in the US?

    The intense emotions, the fixation on whites as the scapegoats for all things bad, the envy, the complete disregard for infrastructure and improvement in living standards, the magical thinking that you can have things simply by demanding them, and the violence…

    The affirmative action and gender balancing by lowering standards or quotas in the West looks similar to the rules in SA about black ownership requirements for historically white businesses, capital transfers from whites to blacks, etc.

    The concern is that these wealth transfer schemes in SA never seem to end. Land or ownership titles are distributed to blacks who sell them back to whites or the item loses value as a result of mismanagement. Once the money is spent or the value lost, you end up where you started and there has to be a new wave of wealth transfer.

    This system is not sustainable. Wealth creation and infrastructure building is a slow process and is dependent on protection of private property. There is always a certain amount of predation on the productive elements of society, e.g. rent seeking, but there is a tipping point where you end up killing the host.

    When the unproductive can be consolidated into a majority and held together by something like race, how long can a society remain first world? The elites (the “big men”) skim off what they can and everything falls to ruin.

    Is this the road we’re on?

    • Replies: @anon
  3. Sam Francis’s characterization of the Republican Party as the Stupid Party gets truer every day.

  4. Deplorables and Socialists have taken the field. Centrists have had their day. They got filthy rich. Now they can go away.

    • Agree: byrresheim
    • Replies: @FaCubeItches
  5. KenH says:

    Pretty much everything Desantis says will by spun by the (((media))) as a racist dog whistle since he’s running against a black Democrat. He better learn fast to stand up to the media, but instead he’ll be cucking his brains out until the election and demoralizing right of center voters in the process.

    Conservatives are pretty stupid to think that Reagan’s 1980 platform and campaign slogans will resonate with our increasingly third world population. We don’t have 1980 demographics anymore. They never, ever learn, so it’s time to destroy the GOP.

    Puerto Ricans, who can’t vote in presidential elections (only primaries), shouldn’t be able to just pick up and move to states like Florida to consume government services and start voting in state elections. That’s a loophole that needs to close because it will turn Florida permanently blue.

    Trump was our last chance and he’s kind of blowing it. He’s turned into a conventional Republican who talks endlessly about the economy and cutting taxes and regulations. Suddenly he’s never heard of a wall or his other campaign promises on immigration. It’s like Dubya’s third term since we get tax cuts, possible war with Iran. Trump also supports anti-white affirmative action just like Dubya.

    Trump’s turning into the typical Republican who think his job is to make multiracialism work and improve the economic prospects of racial groups who hate him and will never vote for him.

    • Agree: mark green
  6. bro3886 says:

    No, it doesn’t. Francis did a great disservice by reviving the phrase. They’re not the stupid party, they’re the crooked party. They consciously screw the majority of their constituents to gain the political capital necessary to service their donors. On top of the fact that they hate their constituents on a class basis, and increasingly on a cultural/race basis as well as they adopt the morality of their erstwhile opponents. Do you really think they’re dumber than you, that they don’t have access to the same truths you have access to? They know, they just don’t care. Don’t care what happens to their constituents, don’t care what happens to the nation in the long run, don’t care about conservatism, don’t even care about the survival of their own party, or being victorious. As long as they have enough influence to keep the donor money coming they’re happy.

    Francis did a disservice by calling them “The Stupid Party” because if you’re stupid you can’t help yourself, it absolves you from blame and responsibility. And it prevents their voters from facing the facts about their real relationship to Republican/Conservatism, Inc. leadership. Their furor at Trump, their stabbing of his back, and their leaving him to fight alone against YOUR enemies is a manifestation of their fear and hatred of populism, particularly white populism. This country is run on a white serfdom system, and the Republicans chief job in that system is keeping whites on the plantation, to be fed off of by hostile parasites, a category that includes them. If the serfs ever start practicing identity politics, the whole system crashes to the ground, because the serfs are likely to decide they don’t want to be serfs anymore. They know.

  7. @WorkingClass

    Centrists have had their day. They got filthy rich.

    So they will now side with the Socialists. The wealthy do not seek additional members in their ranks.

  8. MBlanc46 says:

    “Hapless Republicans”. That says it all.

  9. MBlanc46 says:

    Okay. Evil, not stupid.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  10. Time for a third party.
    Nationalist, conservative, pro working class, White, Small donations on a large base.
    Face it, we have to demand political representation. The system is not representing the real America. Time to organize and demand leaders be accountable to the grassroots base or else; you’re fired.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
    , @RadicalCenter
  11. @steinbergfeldwtizcohen

    This cannot work with an election system rigged the way it is.

    It is the only peaceful solution, though.

    • Replies: @c matt
  12. I would have zero problem agreeing to pay for reparations to blacks, as long as it is clear that the 100% of the monies used to pay said reparations are paid solely by all existing businesses, corporations, or LLC, regardless of where in the world the corporation is registered, that profited from slavery in any and all manners. Also liable are all heirs to, and all surviving relatives of said corporations, regardless of how distant the relationship may be. This debt cannot be cancelled/sold or transferred by law, or change of government, the law is valid into perpetuity until finally paid. Borders will not be recognized.
    Responsibility for collections is given to Seal Team 6,with back up provided by given to the US Army. Preferably given to Seal Team 6.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  13. Even Trump himself is forever crowing about low black unemployment rates, to the utter indifference of African-American voters. A recent poll suggests 93 percent disapprove of him.

    Are these the pollsters who said Hillary was going to win by a landslide?

    Even as cable news networks debate reports of the existence of a recording of President Donald Trump using a racial slur, a new poll from Rasmussen Reports says that the president’s approval rating among African-Americans is at 36 percent, nearly double his support at this time last year.
    Rasmussen, August 16, 2018

    How does one reconcile “93% disapproval” with “36% approval”?

  14. Anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:

    Conservatives never conserve anything.

    Christianity never saves anything.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  15. Anonymous[202] • Disclaimer says:

    Cannot Catholicism be both “evil” and “stupid?”

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  16. Allan says:

    Let’s have low expectations for a Zionist party organized to advance capitalist racketeering and of which a favorite newspaper was Horace Greeley’s New-York Daily Tribune.

    From the 1840s through the 1860s it was the dominant Whig Party and then Republican newspaper in the United States.
    In 1852-62, the paper retained Karl Marx as its London-based European correspondent. Friedrich Engels also submitted articles under Marx’s by-line.

  17. The present dicussions about white supremacy, discrimination, etc., more and more remind me of how 16th century Holland could become the present Netherlands: through discrimination of catholics.
    Catholics did not have equal rights, they were kept out of any civil function.
    They did not take part in trade.
    They were treated decently, their windows were not smashed, they could profit from social security as it existed: for widows, orphans, sick and elderly.
    They had their churches.
    But they were second class citizens, no doubt about it.
    Even now, when hardly any Dutch go to church any more, the (former) catholic part, south of the rivers, has inferiority feelings, maybe for this reason Dutch illegal drug production is concentrated there.
    Few here can read Dutch, I suppose, but what I describe is explained excellenty in a book about a small village, of which so many records survived, that it was possible to reconstruct the lives of almost anyone living there in detail:
    A.Th. van Deursen, ‘Een dorp in de polder, Graft in de 17e eeuw’, Amsterdam, 1998
    Quite interesting was the sexual freedom of young boys and girls, but with one iron rule, the girl pregnant, there had to be a marriage.

  18. DanFromCT says:

    You’re too easy on the Republicans. The Republican Party mirrors the political asymmetry in America inasmuch as working whites no more have the time to spend at party meetings than they do attending rallies and demonstrating in the streets—as union, gov workers, and welfare parasites do and get paid for it. Dem operatives go to Republican meetings instead, and as proof we get Democrat sleeper agents like Susan Collins, for example.

    It’s impossible, for me at least, to believe these Republicans about anything. OBVIOUSLY they’re blowing smoke in our eyes with their prissy deference to Senate decorum and procedures while handing the Dems control of the confirmation process by groveling acceptance of the latter’s abuse of those rules. It has to be staged because no man, no matter how much of a gentleman, could lose so much of his manhood as to cower like the Republicans do. And then there’s Fox News acting like their hands are tied as well, as if there’s nothing we can do but sit back watch the leftists turn America into Venezuela or Cuba.

    Instead, if the Republicans represented us, and knowing as they clearly do this country is irremediably divided, they’d be calling the left’s bluff and matching every act of street warfare against us with its equal. They’d be lining up the police and military instead of pretending they don’t see their transformation into LGBT and leftist enforcers. Yet, instead of preparing us to die in the streets of America for what’s worth living for, these Nancy boys imply with their every concession that our families’ future is best served by appeasement toward a now clearly homicidal left that’ll shift from character assassination to literal assassination overnight. These disgusting excuses for men are so weak they’d be calling ‘point of order’ as the women in their families were being raped and their houses burned down around them.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  19. Giuseppe says:

    We have had a de facto one party system for many years and whether or not the Left or the Right is ascendant at a particular moment in time is of zero consequence. People are better off preparing for the coming financial meltdown and inevitable collapse of freedom as best they can, rather than indulging in anxiety over the GOP.

  20. KenH says:

    You are right and even Limbaugh told his audience that Republican elites hold them in low esteem. They are the malevolent party.

    But they are indeed stupid if they think the third world plantation they are helping to create won’t also consume them and destroy their wealth and privilege that they’re so accustomed to. They are so hubristic they think they can insulate themselves or buy protection from the new non-white majority but they will learn the hard way.

    • Replies: @Anon
  21. mp says:

    First, who can trust polls? On the other hand, as a Fl resident, I’m sitting this one out. When I found out who he picked for a running mate I knew it was over. Here’s Nunez’s tweet:

    Wake up Florida voters, Trump is the biggest con-man there is,” “#nosubstance #anti-Israel #supports KKK VOTE Marco Rubio #RUBIO

    It’s a cynical ploy for DeSantis to gain the South Florida Cuban vote. He’ll get that. For all the good it’ll do him. But even younger Cubans are going lib. One thing you can count on: government workers, Ricans, South Florida Jews, the citified GLBTXYZs and coffee drinkers, along with the rest of the assorted soy crowd are going Socialist. Will it matter? The legislature sets the tone, and they have their own ideas. If the black man wins, you can expect four years of rope-a-dope. And scandal. But he’s probably no more crooked than the current governor. Just not as smart or devious. Go Democracy!

  22. The great irony: they would have a clue if they just looked at how President Trump won in 2016. He campaigned something like the real Southern Democrats of the past by appealing to working class voters, dispensing with wonkish rhetoric about free markets, talking tough on immigration and identity, and never giving an inch when it came to the media.

    Trump won the presidency using the German Strategy.

    The German Strategy is to win the votes of German American voters in the Great Lakes states in combination with the votes of the Anglo-Celts in the South.

    Trump won Florida with the votes of snowbirds from the Northeast and the Great Lakes states in combination with the old stocker Anglo-Celts in the Panhandle of Florida.

    Tweet from 2014:

  23. nsa says:

    Corbyn today showed American pols exactly how its done…..sticking his bony finger right in the jooie eye by announcing that upon election, Labour will immediately recognize the state of Palestine. Guy has balls the size of grapefruits, prying control of his party away from the vile conniving jooies. Of course, no one really gives a rat’s ass about the Pals….we just want to stick it to the poisonous jooies infecting American public life and especially their legions of ovine gentile useful idiot butt boys like Trumpstein……..

  24. If DeSantis is going the its-the-economy-stupid route, he could at least loudly claim that his socialist opponent’s policies will lead to the institution of an income tax. Florida’s lack of a State income tax is something that it is known for nationwide. And having to pay more taxes is something that even the most simple-minder voter can comprehend.

  25. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    @ Lemmings Folley.. great post.. good questions. Objectively race entitlement has become a, and is a, major part of the Zionist global system designed to allow them to more easily control and rule the world. The philosophy is to disrupt the status Quo where it it is stable! Trump is a professional destabilizer.

    Here is a except from Corbyn’s campaign in England “We won’t accept it when we’re attacked by Tory hypocrites who accuse us of antisemitism one day, then endorse Viktor Orban’s hard right government the next. Or when they say we are racist, while they work to create a hostile environment for all migrant communities.”

    A Zionist plot in stage=execution being conducted against strongly organized humanity everywhere.

    Zionist planners don’t care which race has an advantage, what the outcome of abortion issues are, but instead use race, sex, D vs R, international war vs foreign governments (mostly stable). it really does not matter to their game, as long as the issue can be split into many sides and supported by propaganda, money, espionage and war. The more neurons that an issue can energize the more people can be rallied by propaganda to support either direction. When the Neocons “neocon a society or culture“, they use its domestic public media, the international media the own and government and private funded think tanks to spread, incite and promote that which is “destabilizing”. The war on Terror for example, just what is Terror who are the Terrorist, what concern of Americans or Britons that some terrorist are operating in country XXXX?

    Destabilization explains why MBS, Saudia Arabia and UAE lead the charge to destroy Syria, Yemen, and Iran.. Iran seems very stable as a nation, it has had to be because it has been dealing with sanctions, invasions but the stability it seems is what Trump and Israel want to destroy in Iran.

    The think tanks seem to be after in Syria (Assad its president has been elected, reelected and reelected with greater than 90% of the vote over and over again, yet the NEOCONS keep screaming ASSAD must go.) Yemen, Afghanistan, Ukraine, various nations in Africa, and South America are all in stages of Neocon destabilization which can be measured by the degree of chaos. Few humans not living in Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Africa or South America are concerned enough to go to war or to intervene in their elections or to help them straighten out their affairs, yet greater than 50% of the USA budget is designed to cause havoc in those places.

    Look for the destabilises and you will see the NEOCON signature affixed thereon. In the Florida USA election Democrat Gilliam (nonwhite in color, just as was Obama) opposes Republican Desantis (lilly white). The situation in Florida is not about race its about controversy, its a destabilization target of global Zionism. In America the Neocon’s lead the Zionist way. In Florida if you speak against the Zionist or the NEOCONs, you are an outcast.

    Around the world, if you take a look: the wars, are about destabilisation, they are not about winning something for the warriors instead they are about chaos. NEOCON is a program, it renders stability into Chaos. Once stable situations (something that might give Zionist competition now or in the future) are rendered into Chaos. If you want Chaos. but NEOCON.

  26. Anon[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Disagree. Look at the elite in Mexico and the Southern Hemisphere. They’re not suffering.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @KenH
  27. MBlanc46 says:

    It’s the Repubs being characterized. I believe the Francis referenced is Sam Francis.

  28. Sam Francis suggested that the managerial state is using mass immigration to create the conditions where political power is completely centralized and dissent is not tolerated.

    Sam Francis’s ANARCHO-TYRANNY concept is important to know about.

    Sam Francis was getting at the Hobbesian Leviathan scenario where a multicultural jurisdiction requires brute concentrated force to keep it together because the inherent ethnic antagonisms are so severe.

    Sam Francis in 2004:

    To have freedom on a stable political basis, you have to have a homogeneous culture and society, composed of people who share the same values and beliefs. If they don’t share them, you can hold them together only by force.

    Tweet from 2015:

  29. buckwheat says:

    Bending over backwards for the blacks and liberals has been the GOP standard for years. Catering to them just results in more demands upon more foolish demands. Its like the democrats won in 2016 and the only republican with any balls left is Trump and he can’t do it alone.

  30. Them Guys says:
    @the grand wazoo

    And it sounds like You’d make a great neocon Repub running for office. Where will you find any still Alive former slaves? Perhaps you are a younger college type age eh? Or maybe just a huge Re-think on this reparation issue is in need by you.

  31. @bro3886

    “This country is run on a white serfdom system ….”

    Very true; and now the “deplorables” and “dregs” are objects of humiliation for the white liberal elite and their POC allies. The last bit, “… the serfs are likely to decide they don’t want to be serfs anymore”, may be wishful thinking, unfortunately. The white middle and working class are way too enamoured of Trump. While speaking truth on immigration, and attempting to disentangle the U.S. from globalist trade pacts, Trump is still controlled by Zionists (as his Middle East policy clearly demonstrates). The House of Trump harbors the Kabbalah anti-Christ: son-in-law Jared. So yeah, we’re all doomed.

  32. Them Guys says:

    DanFromCT: Well stated. I recall back just prior to the 2000 year elections. And here in Mich, the huge big deal issue then was, the CCW or Concealed handgun issue. We had already spent massive $$$ contributions and endless travels to statewide Gun Clubs, Hunters clubs, and attended many, many various political rallies, for about 12 years. And each election cycle we got more Pro-Gun repubs elected in Mich state positions. State reps and senators. A state Governer too, maybe more than one govner(?)….Yet, every time, the repubs seemed to miss the passage of a Shall Issue ccw lic law.

    Finally in 1999 before 2000 elections when repubs nationwide pressed very hard to get GW bush and enough fed repubs elected to overtake dems controls. Even statewide repubs went to more rallies and gun clubs etc than I ever heard of. Yet, even after I and others came straight to the point, told them repubs that if we again vote for them, and they again fail?…Then that’s IT!…No more nice guy and No more votes.

    They either avoided us types, or had aides to be at ready to get between Us and candidate repub, in any conversations about….How we were pissed off to the max, and either they start to notice Us White voters, and Our CCW law issues etc…Plus much talk on Illegal immigration too, Or..No Joke! We are going to simply Stop voting period. Most such idiot repubs thought we were joking it seems. Since nothing changed and that was almost two decades ago.

    Mich did finally get shall issue ccws passed in 2001, yet ever since they have had to go back to “Fix” bad law sections done only to appease Black Detroit area and Flint Mich area state reps and senators….They just keep trying to do the famous, Now 55+ year long agenda of….Try to be nice, never offend, and appease Black voters and soon, Very soon, next election for certain, at least 25-35% Blacks are going to switch votes, vote repubs and wreck dem party for all time.

    Riiiigggghhhhtttttt!…..The exact same agenda and pattern or methods as done now ever since Rowe Vs wade abortion changed, and every year, Jan 20th, 20,000 Pro Lifer and Catholic groups join forces to protest abortion in front of US Supremes buildg in DC…And when done after a weekend event, the very same speakers, same priests, same nuns, same fed elected officials there….Recite word for word same speech…

    “Well we wish to profusely Thank you all for attending this. Our, 50th yearly protest of abortion! (crowd goes wild! Yells and raves and much hand claps)…Next speaker up to batt says…And allow me to invite each of You to again show up to again protest, same way, same signs, same speakers, same place, so we can finally end usa abortion, because we have had such great Success in the Past 50-Years of, same protests events!” How can Any sane person make such a claim of huge success?

    Indeed, chase elusive, never happen, end of abortion and never happen Black voter switch to repubs.….EVEN when in past 55 years tens of Million WHITE Voters have rejected repubs, and it grows larger each election cycle….Just remember us repubs Have gained about…ONE percent of Black votes in past 55 years! Yeahhhh!!!….While at same time we LOST 50 Million White voters!

    So Just ignore facts such as that, keep doing excat same, again and again, and maybe in another 50 years…We shall win….If not…Back to same Failure tactics, or end political party fully when last White vote ceases to vote repub….That’ll show em eh!

    Those bastards are such whimpy assholes, and Race Traitors, Nation traitors, and shekel seekers, it is a waste of time to vote any longer.

    And far as I see it…Zero-No Political solution, No other Peaceful solution now exists for American White’s, period…Nobody wants to hear it, but there really is zero options left but that, Unmentionable method as well described in the Declaration of Indep….Ie: when its this way, the People have a Right and a DUTY to throw Off and overthrow and replace with proper officials of their Own choosing, etc.

    And the longer it takes for enough fed ups to get fed up enough, the worse and harder it shall be.

    It may come to a time, when even that option no longer is a valid one. Then what?

    It is quite obvious that sooner than later Non whites and various factions with them, dems, jewry, illegal mexicns etc….Are going to rule the roost, and soon as possible they Will have a nationwide vote to End 2nd amendt, end free speech 1st amendt, only for Minority Whites though it all ends, and even if enough Whites by then still ain’t wised up, they sure will be once they realize no other option but surrender or stand and fight. And fight it will be,when 50+ million or about one half usa gun owners flat out refuse to turn in their firearms. The older we get, less we have to lose, and worse that fight will get.

    Personally I hope center holds till I am either old and dead, or far too old to care. Thats about 20 to 25 more center holds years if I am real lucky to remain alive…I am now aged 65, and wont bet on that long of a center holding era….Whats left as option other than keep stacking ammo and hardware to use ammo with? It is coming like it or not it seems.

    A New Jewish Bolshevik Led, Russian Commie revolt in the USA, 100+ yrs, after they did the first one in Russia and eastern euro nations…Main difference this time is far More colored folks on Boslhie side. I hope they wear those tennis shoes with led lites at shoe soles, so at Night when they run away into forest areas, we still can spot them good…Then just Aim 5-6 Feet above blinking led shoe lights… and yet another anti-whitey gone.

  33. Them Guys says:

    Mexico has NO 2nd amndt, and Barely any gun owners compared to 100+ Million owners in usa. Makes a big difference. And all it would take is for, a few fed ups to begin real Guerila (sp?) actions against various traitor pols etc….Soon after msm reports on it all, numbers will go thru the roof like a rocket.

    A decade ago or so, some guy did a number crunching between usa gun owners that are Known of, no good way to count owners not legit to own a gun, and the entire worlds Active + Reserve Military forces + All Police in entire world…He even counted cops with sit down desk jobs…End result numbers match up was….Entire worlds combo of armed military with reserve armys too, Plus all worlds armed Police…Vs…American Known of gun owners…..Was rated at, worlds military + cops combo were Out numbered by Over two to one. In Favor of citizens armed.

    And regardless how many or what type of fancy and powerful Planes, Bombs, Guns, Tanks etc etc They have compared to the citizenry in usa…It won’t matter much. For No real conflict can ever get won, without real live Boots on ground methods. Out numbered two to one at least, and considering how difficult to impossible to get every world military + police to be Inside usa then?….They likely Lose…Plus you must include the aprox 1/2 army and cops that are going to side with citizens then…They now lose bigger and faster. They, being corrupt officials etc.

  34. JamesinNM says:

    Correct. All real Americans paying the vast percentage of taxes can do is move and leave the state and its inevitable destruction to the minorities that feel entitled.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  35. Agent76 says:

    Nov 5, 2012 Two-party system an illusion, both funded from same source’

    Almost 30 million Americans have already cast their votes for President, queuing for hours at early polling stations across the country. Although too soon to tell which way the vote is swinging, Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are locked together according to most polls. But lost in the rivalry between Republican and Democrat, are the alternatives that many Americans have longed for.

  36. c matt says:

    True. Stuck with a two party system (for now). If we had European style politics, independent parties would have more of a chance of participating in governance. But to get that, the two governing parties would have to give up some power. Only two ways that happens: (1) complete collapse, or (2) widespread armed insurrection. While 2 is highly unlikely, 1 is simply a matter of time – but it could still be a long ways off.

    • Replies: @bt
  37. bt says:

    “Hapless GOP Not Adjusting to Race-Based Politics”


    That really made me snort the coffee through my nose, thanks a lot!

    –>Let me just share with you comments from a good ole boy, Lee Atwater, in 2006, about GOP use of race in politics:

    Atwater: Y’all don’t quote me on this. You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger”. By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.


    Indeed the GOP does need to adjust it “methods” when dealing with Race. Because the Nixon/Atwater/Reagan/Trump/Southern model is finally running out of gas.

  38. bt says:
    @c matt

    pluses and minuses to both systems.

    A 51% Majority take all system will over time lead to a 2-party duopoly arrangement. 51% of the vote gives you 100% of the power and the ability to govern decisively.

    Proportional Representation tends to lead to lots of smaller parties and shifting alliances. It seems to give more voices to more groups, but it’s more unstable. Majorities are constantly shifting as the various parties jockey for power. Fringe parties can have a big effect and the consequence is that lots of little factions will form to advance themselves. It can lead to an indecisive government.

    I’m not saying one is better than the other. But it helps to point out that the issues are baked into the fabric of our electoral system. It’s not because of some petty corruption or human failing that we have a de facto 2-party system – it’s the election rules themselves that make it the likely outcome.

  39. KenH says:

    Disagree. Look at the elite in Mexico and the Southern Hemisphere. They’re not suffering.

    Maybe not in the way you think but the prospect of the wealthy getting kidnapped for ransom or a family member getting kidnapped is very high and the possibility of government officials getting assassinated at the state and local level by drug cartels and revolutionary upstarts is much higher than here in America but only for now. That’s why some wealthy Mexicans try to send their families to live in white bread, staid America.

    As a result the elite in Mexico and S. America have to take security measures that elites in the U.S. don’t yet have to.

    The future face of American politics is Ocasio-Cortez and Keith Ellison and all that that entails unless this nation breaks apart into ethnostates.

  40. @steinbergfeldwtizcohen

    Pro-working-class, yes, and how about pro-every class of our people so long as they earned what they earned honestly.

  41. @Anonymous

    Christianity has some noble and practical injunctions about how to live and how to treat others.

    But that “turn the other cheek” nonsense will just ensure that we squander what little chance we have at surviving and thriving.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  42. Anon[342] • Disclaimer says:

    “Time for a third party.”

    Time for separate countries.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  43. Them Guys says:

    Yes it says to turn other cheek..But….After that’s been done, He left the Rest Up to Us as to what do we next do. Also that don’t stand at all if its bullets or sharp knife/sword weapons used against Us…Then all bets are off, and we get to go off to the Races and Whack every last one of our real enemies. For how else could Christians continue doing Christs Other command of…Go into world and spread the Gospel and Make Desciples out of people who accept it?….That cannot get done if Christians are all dead, due to turn other cheek being applied like a total pacifistic method or way to live.

    I guess its why we also were well advised by Christ to learn, then practice, Discernment.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  44. @Them Guys

    You make sense. But that’s because you have wisely decided not to follow the unqualified “turn the other cheek” advice of Jesus.

    I haven’t seen a biblical passage qualifying that statement. I hope there’s one, but is there?

    I don’t read Jesus as leaving it up up us what to do “after” we turn the other cheek.
    And after turning the other cheek, is too late.

    In any event, with much of the world, including tens of millions of fellow residents of the “United” Stayed, if we turn the other cheek we’ll be dead or subjugated.

    I will not turn the other cheek when it comes to the lives or freedom of my children. Ever. To Hell with anyone who demands that I do.

  45. @JamesinNM

    Which State? And there won’t be many States left soon that offer the safety, peace of mind, standard of living, and semblance of civilization that we seek.

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