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Ever since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, conspiracy theories have been the talk of the internet. One of the most interesting phenomena regarding the pandemic has been witnessing conspiracy theories evolve into “science,” and vice versa.

Mass confusion became so rampant that the establishment’s Department of Propaganda (i.e., Big Tech) was forced to step in and become the arbitrators of truth, establishing a non-negotiable narrative that silenced all dissenters. This resulted in an Orwellian-style censorship campaign used to combat COVID “misinformation,” which consequently divided the public into two camps: conformists and non-conformists.

Those who weren’t devout disciples of authoritarianism came to realize that this oppressive suppression of speech wasn’t actually about “misinformation,” rather it was about control of the narrative. Anyone could post all the “misinformation” they desired as long at it acted as a representative of the state’s narrative. However, even renowned experts and their empirical data have been collectively censored for simply challenging the science.

Those who boastfully tout “Science!” seem to have forgotten what makes science an acceptable doctrine of truth. Science is the acquisition of knowledge due to rigorous skepticism via the scientific method. Science and censorship are compatible only in the sense that science will act as its own censor when challenged. In layman’s terms: if the truth isn’t challengable, then it’s probably not the truth.

The establishment’s response to the pandemic proved to be a complete fiasco, which highlighted a level of systemic incompetency that no amount of damage control by the Department of Propaganda could possibly repair. Censorship never fixes problems, it always creates them. The whole of Western Civilization (perhaps excluding Sweden) illustrated to the world that radical neoliberalism (a system based on emotions and feelings) is incompatible with logic and reason.

But, maybe that’s what they wanted. Maybe the powers that be (PTB) have been co-opted by accelerationists who see the West as a dying empire, and they hope to speed up the process, with the intent to build back better. That could explain the blatant ineptitude of those making the decisions. Nonetheless, it’s almost impossible to analyze the last two years rationally without going down some type of conspiracy-driven rabbit hole.

One of the more popular COVID conspiracy theories has been the idea of population control. Whether it be with the mRNA vaccines, the “novel” virus, or a combination of both, there are literally millions of people who believe the pandemic was a “plandemic.” In fact, according to a recent poll, 1 in 5 people think the COVID pandemic is a “depopulation tactic”:

Amid a disturbing rise in the number of conspiracy theories taking root in the US population, a new poll has found that nearly one in five people believe that the coronavirus pandemic is a “depopulation tactic”.

Conspiracy theorists cite things like, WEF’s Great Reset plan to “build back better,” Bill Gate’s 2017 admission that vaccines are designed so governments can depopulate the world, or that the virus itself was man-made and intentionally released from a Chinese lab with the purpose of killing millions of people, as sources to justify their theories.

Regardless of how you feel about the pandemic and/or the conspiracy theories that surround it, there is no denying that there are powerful people who believe the earth is overpopulated. That is essentially the underlying agenda of the “climate change” crowd. Obviously, they aren’t going to come out explicitly as depopulationists, any more than diversity advocates are going to openly endorse White genocide. But, where there’s smoke there’s fire. Anyone who believes humans are destroying the planet are going to be de facto depopulationists to some degree.

In practical terms, the concept of depopulation is an equation of implicit actions resulting in explicit changes that are factored exponentially over a period of time. Assuming the official COVID numbers are accurate, we are currently at 6 million deaths (80% of those over 65) on a planet with 7 billion people. That means 0.08% of the planet’s population died from COVID over a two-year period. Yet, during that same time period, 280 million people were born. This illustrates the mathematical complexity depopulationists are faced with, and perhaps the irrationality of the “conspiracy.” However, that doesn’t necessarily debunk depopulationism as an ideology, nor pragmatically from an eugenics perspective.

The fear that has driven the pandemic has been the notion that nobody knows who will get serious disease. Some people get sniffles, while others are placed on a ventilator. Just because the reasoning isn’t known to the public (or even the “experts”) doesn’t mean the reason isn’t known. If this virus was created in a lab (most think it was), it could be designed to attack a certain genetic sequence, that appears to infect people randomly, when in fact it doesn’t.

To the naysayers who might respond with, “if they wanted to implement population control measures, they could just start another world war and kill off millions of people.”: The only way that happens is with nuclear war, and all parties involved know that’s suicide. Technology and the nuclear weapon has eliminated the possibility of large scale ground wars. The idea that the world could just deploy armies of men to a battlefield and have them shoot each other until 100 million die is completely irrational. If there were to ever be another world war, it would be the last war. All future conflicts will be in the realm of 4th generation warfare, which will be technological, biological and asymmetrical. This type of warfare will be more efficient, controllable, eco-friendly and profitable (the world’s 10 richest men doubled their wealth during the pandemic).

From an ethical point of view it should be noted that this idea that the PTB wouldn’t release a bioweapon capable of killing millions of people on the premise of “they care about us so much” is both disingenuous and naive. The people in a position to make these kind of decisions are primarily comprised of two personality types: sociopaths and justifiers. These are the same people who have sacrificed the lives of hundreds of millions of young men for “the greater good” in a multitude of meaningless wars. In fact, in the 20th century alone, there were 123 million people who died in battle. Thinning the herd of a few million “useless eaters” in order to save the planet is no different than sacrificing the lives of millions of young men for “communism” or “democracy.”

Therefore, the conspiracy theorist would posit that when conventional warfare becomes obsolete (as it has), unconventional warfare becomes conventional. After all, warfare is just a means to an end. Therefore, let’s assume that humans really are putting a huge strain on the planet’s resources and causing climate change that will inevitably become catastrophic. Combine that with the technological revolution that has transformed humans into “useless eaters” (consumers who don’t produce). If the PTB believe this to be true, are we to assume that they wouldn’t consider drastic measures? If they think the fate of the planet lies in their hands, are we to believe that these gods would sacrifice millions of lives for “freedom,” but not to save the planet?

To make an argument in a court of law, motive usually needs to be established. Motive is defined as, “the cause that moves people to induce a certain action.” If the earth is in an existential crisis, is there motive to institute population control measures?

Let’s ask a few elites what they think:

  • Stephan Hawking: “In the last 200 years the population of our planet has grown exponentially, at a rate of 1.9% per year. If it continued at this rate, with the population doubling every 40 years, by 2600 we would all be standing literally shoulder to shoulder.”
  • Albert Einstein: “Overpopulation in various countries has become a serious threat to the health of people and a grave obstacle to any attempt to organise peace on this planet.”
  • Michail Gorbachev: “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”
  • Isaac Asimov: “Democracy cannot survive overpopulation.”
  • Prince Philip: “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.”
  • Bill Maher: “Shouldn’t we be against procreation at this point in time? With overpopulation and the strain on the resources on this planet? Shouldn’t we reward people who don’t spawn?”
  • Bill Gates: “The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent.”
  • Doug Stanhope: “When you consider the overpopulation in this world … homosexuality is completely underrated in this society.”
  • Ted Turner:“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
  • Richard Branson: “The truth is this: the Earth cannot provide enough food and fresh water for 10 billion people, never mind homes, never mind roads, hospitals, and schools.”
  • Margaret Sanger: “All of our problems are the result of overbreeding among the working class.”
  • Paul Erlich: “Basically, then, there are only two kinds of solutions to the population problem. One is a ‘birth rate solution,’ in which we find ways to lower the birth rate. The other is a ‘death rate solution,’ in which ways to raise the death rate — war, famine, pestilence — find us.
  • Jacques Cousteau: “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.”
  • Pentti Linkola: “If there were a button I could press, I would sacrifice myself without hesitating if it meant millions of people would die.”
  • Dan Brown: “Overpopulation is an issue so profound that all of us need to ask what should be done.”

Based on the above observation and reasoning, I’ve developed the following thesis using the Hegelian Dialectic (problem, reaction, solution):

The PTB have scientifically reached the conclusion that human overpopulation has placed the planet in an existential crisis. They’ve determined that if drastic population control measures aren’t enacted soon, irreparable damage to the planet and its ecosystem is inevitable. They intend to address this issue in three phases: 1. Socially-engineered sterilization, 2. Technological escapism, 3. Space Emigration. We are in Phase 1 and on the verge of entering Phase 2.

Socially-engineered sterilization is a systemic-endorsed collusion amongst establishment entities that actively promote the breakdown of the family unit in order to discourage reproduction. The primary methods used are feminism and homosexuality.

The socially-engineered sterilization aspect of the depopulation effort has already been successfully implemented. The United States has frequently been below replacement numbers (2.1) since 1971, and has been consistently below since 2007. In 2020, the U.S. hit a record low at 1.6 births per woman. The breakdown of the traditional family as the result of radical feminism is the biggest contributor to the reduction in birthrates.

With regard to homosexuality, there has been a sharp rise in those who identify as LGBTQ, particularly among millennials. According to a recent poll, 5.6% of adults identify as LGBT, up from just 3.5% in 2012. Among millennials, data suggests that 20% identify as LGBTQ, compared to 12% of Gen X and just 7% of baby boomers. This illustrates the fluidity of sexuality when manipulated. Homosexuality as a cause is social, but as an effect it’s evolutionary.

The entirety of the West has not only endorsed feminism and homosexuality, but has vehemently enforced it. People get stuck in the mud moralizing these behaviors instead of rationally processing them. When a person is able to escape their feelings and analyze homosexuality and feminism critically, from an evolutionary perspective, they are able to see these behaviors for what they really are: a crypto-eugenics psy-op.

The next phase of depopulation is the one we are currently entering: technological escapism. This is the concept of replacing – or fusing – biological reality with virtual reality. The Metaverse is the evolution of the internet. Like it or not, it’s the next thing. This technology alone will plummet birthrates below one. People will just not leave their homes anymore. All of their relationships will be virtual. Reality will become a social construct.

Companies are literally spending millions of dollars as we speak buying up “property” in the Metaverse:

CNBC reports that since Facebook made the move towards becoming Meta, prices of digital plots have gone up by as much as 500%. One company reported spending over \$2.5 million USD on land in Decentraland, a metaverse based around crypto complete with its own currency where every piece of content in the game is owned, completely autonomously, by the players. Another firm revealed spending \$4.3 million buying a plot of land in Atari’s The Sandbox metaverse.

Metaverses, in the current zeitgeist, refers to these niche virtual worlds which in most cases, look a lot worse than your average videogame. Celebrity appearances and shows are becoming fairly common, a bit like the Fortnite concerts, and some like Snoop Dogg and Paris Hilton even own property in these worlds. Having celebrities onboard naturally is helping to drive up the price, with the house next to Snoop’s planned mansion going for \$4.3 million.

Another suspicious circumstance regarding the COVID pandemic is the timing aspect. Right about the time this VR technology is ready to be rolled out, society gets put into this perpetual state of nihilistic despair, glued to their phones in isolation. Everyone is miserable and depressed (77 million people in the US are on psychiatric drugs). Drug overdoses have reached all-time highs, with 93,000 people dying in 2020. Roughly 50,000 people commit suicide annually. Then out of nowhere, this new technology appears that will allow people to escape their living hell and create a better reality in a virtual world. Seems rather convenient, but it’s probably just another weird coincidence.

In a recently published article, an Australian professor of philosophy says that “virtual reality is genuine reality, and we need to embrace it.” Not only that, but he says that virtual reality will become a safe haven from things like “environmental collapse, pandemics and nuclear wars.” He even says that living in physical reality will eventually be viewed as a type of fetish:

It is hard to imagine humans spending their lives in virtual reality when the experience amounts to waving your arms about in the middle of the lounge with a device the size of a house brick strapped to your face.

But this is where humanity is heading, says the philosopher David Chalmers, who argues for embracing the fate. Advances in technology will deliver virtual worlds that rival and then surpass the physical realm. And with limitless, convincing experiences on tap, the material world may lose its allure, he says.

“A common way of thinking about virtual realities is that they’re somehow fake realities, that what you perceive in VR isn’t real. I think that’s wrong,” he told the Guardian. “The virtual worlds we’re interacting with can be as real as our ordinary physical world. Virtual reality is genuine reality.”

But where does this leave the physical world? “In the short term we’re pretty clearly going to be based in physical reality and I certainly wouldn’t recommend abandoning it,” Chalmers says. “But in the longer term, it’s possible to imagine people spending most of their lives inside virtual reality.” The pursuit of the physical may come to seem a novelty or a fetish, he adds.

Writing in the book, he describes numerous draws that will pull people in to VR. These are worlds in which people can enjoy superhuman powers, possess other bodies, experience new sensations and explore environments with different laws of physics. With almost unlimited space, everyone can have a virtual mansion, or even a virtual planet. And if the physical world becomes dangerously degraded – by environmental collapse, nuclear war or an interminable pandemic – VR could offer a safe haven, he says.

So, for the majority of “useless eaters,” the options are going to be, a) single and overweight, addicted to porn and opioids, suicidal and on antidepressants, b) buy some property next to Snoop Dogg and Kim Kardashian in the Metaverse with worthless crypto and become a handsome superhero with a private jet who gets all the chicks, or c) be an outlier.

That leads us to Phase 3: space colonization. Last year alone, investors dumped a record \$14.5 billion dollars into space stocks. That’s 50% more than was invested in 2020. Colonizing the final frontier might sound like a thing of fantasy, but it’s going to happen. And probably sooner than you think. After all, exploration and conquest are the essence of European Man. By the time space colonies are established, we will be in the midst of the sixth extinction, and the human population will have been considerably reduced. Earth’s ecosystem will be in recovery and become a nature reserve that the elites from space use as a vacation resort:

Amazon Founder and space explorer Blue Origin owner Jeff Bezos, recently forecasted that Earth will soon become a “natural resort.”

According to a WION report Bezos said, this planet will soon turn into a natural resort because only a few “will be allowed to stay here in the future.”

During the annual Ignatius Forum in Washington DC, the billionaire also said, the Earth is special and “we cannot ruin it.”Talking about Blue Origin, his new firm, Bezos explained the experts are aiming to make sure that millions of people get to not only work in space but be born and call space as their first home, as well.Bezos also explained millions of people will move from Earth to space over time. More so, it is the vision of Blue Origin to make millions of people work in space.

For hundreds of years, he added, most, or many of the people “will be born in space.” It will be these humans’ first home. More so, they will be born in these colonies, not to mention, they will live in such colonies.

These people may visit this planet the way one would visit a national park, forecasted Bezos. He believes the space colonies in the future will have forests, wildlife, and rivers of their own, a similar Republicworld.com report said.

Describing his prediction, Bezos said this planet can support, for example, 10 billion people to a certain level. He elaborated they’d have to work quite hard to find out how to do that without degrading the Earth. Ge added the solar system can “support a trillion people.”Even though the billionaire is relatively positive about taking humanity to space and keeping this planet for a selected few, he was uncertain about claiming who is to decide who’s staying on this planet.

It’s not some kind of secret conspiracy theory when the richest man in the world is publicly telling everyone what the future looks like. The only way his vision doesn’t become reality is if it’s impossible to achieve. Ask yourself how many things you experience or witness everyday that 100 years ago would’ve been considered impossible by all practical measures. Bezos and company are serious, and they have every possible resource available at their disposal. Once you combine mission and motive, there’s only one unknown variable to the depopulation equation: time.

(Republished from Affirmative Right by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. No, our plan, Gatesy and me, is not to reduce the human population. Rather, we are determined to make humans more intelligent. We are doing that by persuading all the dumb ones to be injected with poisons, again and again, boosters etc. We’re thinking up a new word for what follows boosters, so we can do it all again. So soon, only smarties will be left.

    So it’s all for the sake of humanity. Humans will be more intelligent. Isn’t that good?

  2. Depopulation? We should be so lucky.
    The realityisslightlymorecomplicated.

    In the year 1900, nine out of the world’s ten largest cities were European/American.

    • Thanks: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Malla
  3. ….As of now, none of them are, unless you count Brazil and Mexico. By 2100 every single one will be in Africa or the Indian subcontinent.

    • Thanks: Charon
    • LOL: loren
  4. Steven80 says:

    The fools at the top don’t have so much power. Anyone that considers he or she can affect 8 billion people’s lives is a lunatic. What abour rural India, with 700 hundred milion people with no internet or clean water? What about rural Afrika with 1,5 billion people living with the same conditions? What about Eastern Europe with 300 mln people that don’t really have the same suicidal worldview as the west? What about the China? Does anyone really think this world can be centrally controlled?

    This is a delusion of the West, where mass media profficiency makes it possible to conduct large scale psy-ops against their own population. This, and the incapability and unwillingness of the riling class there to discuss important issues makes people beleive in all kinds of lunacies. Really, if I’m a western “elite” and I can find an easy and secret way to kill most of population, why would I do it? Who will grow food, who will deliver goods, who will defend yme? Because the rest of the world is not going suicidal.

    The truth is much simpler, the top politicians are just regular people, with all their limitiations. Most of them nowadays are real fools; at lest in the past politicians were supposed to know Latin or Ancient Greek, French or German, travel the world, obtain knowledge about many subjects. Now any clown can get elected if sympathetic to crowds or party insiders. This is the true reson for the Western decay.

    BTW find it funny how people admire the bald worm at the top of Amazon and attribute some non-existing power to him or other rich people. Really, you only need an IQ of 80 and an ability to read in order to stop worshiping this scum.

  5. Consider listening to someone that claims population will decrease in the very near future:

  6. jsinton says:

    This is a really good article. It aligns perfectly with my own thinking on the matter. You must have read my mind. I would only add that the PTB have no God-given right to depopulate the earth, and that their souls are condemned to Hell for all eternity.

    • Agree: American Citizen
    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Anonymous
  7. TG says:

    This is utter and total rubbish.

    Sure the rich talk a lot about ‘overpopulation’ being bad. The rich talk about a lot of things. The reality is that the rich are focused on maximizing population growth. They push for ‘pro-natalist’ policies, demanding that it is everyone’s patriotic duty to breed like cattle. If that fails, the rich replace them with the surplus population of countries where people will breed like cattle – and no, immigration does not just move people around, it maximizes total global population. Everyone escaping from a place like India, simply makes more room for another person to be conceived and survive to adulthood, while demographic momentum means that the receiving country will have its population boosted by a minimum of 2 or 3 people.

    Until recently, Canada had a relatively stable population of about 25 million. It had a high standard of living, and was also an example of humanity in harmony with the environment. We can’t have that! The rich are now determined to boost Canada’s population to at least 100 million and probably more. This will make the average Canadian much poorer, and will harm the environment, but so what? The rich will get higher rents and profits.

    No, the rich don’t want depopulation. They want the entire world to be like India today, where population pressure is so great that the fertility rate is now down because they have run out of food, the land is stripped bare, the rivers run with filth – but so profitable! The rich want to bring back feudalism, where the population is massive and impoverished and will do anything for a few grains of rice, and the rich lord it over the rest of us.

    “Sustainabilty” is a con, designed to make us love our coming poverty.

  8. @jsinton

    If the choices were between radical depopulation and the end of life on earth, which one would you choose? Eugenics has become a no-no word, but there is much to recommend it if done with rationality and a degree of compassion. Instead of Social Darwinism (survival of the fittest), we are now suffering from its inverse, with only the unfit useless eaters breeding (a majority of whom are POC), while the productive, who can’t afford to have children, are slowly disappearing. Just look around America today compared to only 60 years ago to see how far down the rabbit hole we have already descended.

    The fact that you condemn the souls of the PTB “to HELL for all eternity” doesn’t scare them in the least.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @jsinton
    , @map
  9. @TG

    The “rich” may not be too keen to depopulate, but the rich fanatic certainly is, and there are plenty of them as quoted above.

    If you haven’t noticed, for example, the tone of our leadership caste when they deign to answer press questions is increasingly along the lines of how a parent talks to a child. “Because I said so” is the basis for the mask mandates, lockdowns and quarantines. Ask “why” again, and you’re told to shut up and do as you’re told. Ask a third time, and punishment for your questioning attitude is the response. This also applies to foreign policy, as we’ve seen when reporters question the proof of Russian designs on Ukraine. “The proof is because we said so”, followed by “didn’t you hear what you were just told”, and lastly “you are a Russian disinformation agent because you parrot unacceptable talking points”.

    Like the way a child would be treated. That’s how our “leaders” view us. Children too stupid to understand what’s good for them, and any questions are treated as insolence needing punishment.

    • Agree: animalogic, Sarah
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  10. @TG

    You are correct about “the rich” but were it not for the political whores they own, none of this would be possible.
    Personally, I see this as a globalized Kalergi Plan. Canada’s population in 1967 was 20 million and was 97% White. It is now over 38 million, with cities like Greater Vancouver and Greater Toronto are 50% non-White.. Virtually all of the increase has been through immigration, and the overwhelming majority of that immigration has been non-White.
    As I have pointed out to many – of all colours – 70% of Canada is un-inhabitable. Packing more people into the habitable areas almost always results in loss of farmland due to urban sprawl. In the end, the country will turn into its own 3rd world, unable to feed itself if this continues.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  11. This article needs to be showcased to generate some additional commentary.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  12. eudion2 says:

    Bezos may not seem like a contrarian, considering that he owns the Washington Post and has ties with the intel community, but his advocacy of space colonization is diametrically opposed to the depopulation agenda. He has stated that he believes that someday trillions of people will live in space. Got that? Trillions. Compare that to Ted Turner wanting to reduce the population of the planet to a few hundred million.

    In other words, Bezos is not on board with the ‘necessity’ of wiping out a sizable fraction of the human race in order to preserve the Earth from overpopulation. He favors utilizing the resources of space to enable the human species to continue economic growth and ecological balance even as population continues to increase.

    Visit reddit sometime and you’ll see that Bezos is held at arm’s length by the powers that be. Is he a ‘good guy?’ That’s another topic for discussion. But no question that Schwab, Gates, and the rest of the B3 motley crew make no allowance for space colonization in their philosophy.

  13. Despite some serious fallacies(debatable, and as suggested, method and content), the best working paper, “frame-work” i have come about on the public internet alas “useless eaters” accessible two-dimensional-virtual-world.

    T-H-E most meaningful article on unz.com in a decade, to say almost in contrast with the proverbial drumming of the editor in chief himself. I had to wait for fifteen years to see a-n-y-o-n-e(to my severely limited knowledge) incentivizing the grander public with a flash of oversight. It matters, not because of inducing comprehension(to the 99%, public’s education is a moron’s game), but as to the few outliers that these days are bound to “virtual reality” learning and cannot access channels that traditionally were mind stimuli as conventional books and conventional(brick and mortar) institutions. In closer proximity these outliers also had some sort of approximating three dimensional creatures to spar with(almost every family had his “weird” uncle) and a snippet of “neutral” terrain and tools to experiment on. What i am referring at: reducing the global population to a fraction is not enough. “engineering” must address qualitative concerns(Ann Nonny Mouse in the first comment). This requires a different breed of humans in itself. Hence outliers.

    The fallacies within the article are there, can be quantified as much, but yes a major “paper” better than what stars in Nature et al. most of the times.

    If the author, is Jewish, what i suspect, i cannot care less.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  14. @eudion2

    Bezos

    Look at a man’s proximity and you get a blue-print of his larger concepts. Have a picture of Bezos’ main residence? A thinking man needs more oxygen. I do not think Bezos is far aback in his concepts of what constitutes space and time dimensions, and the innate concept of me(himself) and them. To his credit!

    Does he incentivize you to layer his personality? Or are you not-sponsored?

  15. Good up to the idea of escape into space. It’s called space for a reason. Never mind all the wonderful radiation out there. If there is found a way to defeat three-dimensional reality to get from here to wherever I might change my mind.

  16. @RoatanBill

    The argument is very “old”. It is meaningless. Optimal, “quality of life” are not addressed. What can be so, if left unhinged all population factoring beyond what consumerism does to the argument(a slight decline of the total global population) at the end of eighty more years, will not cater to any measure of optimal or quality of life and other sincere arguments that must concern every individual.

    The long spun video is irrelevant. The distraction into “laisser faire”, is preposterous when thrown against secondary affectations on planetary resources, air and water quality, quality of life, obsoleteness of the larger part of the population(not able to cope, or even subsist without being “on the grid”(well-fare). Either the author is brain-dead, or shrewd and sees the argument of his as a book seller. Pollution(intellectual overload by the content of the book, added to the “virtual”narrative), even his core speculation(the decline of the total planetary population is unpredictable (the UN reports of earlier on the same subject always came out wrong)) is not even doubtfull, nothing else.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  17. @Jim Bob Lassiter

    This article needs to be showcased to generate some additional commentary.

    Yes, this should be a “living text”, and versioned, the repository accessible to the public. That is the real meaning of “semantic text”, semantics available to the outliers, the not profiting talented individuals not “made men”(paid for and suicide vested) only.

  18. jsinton says:
    @eudion2

    I think your contention is hope against logic. I think Bezos is telling people what they want to hear, giving them hope in what he sees as a hopeless situation. He alludes to transporting people onto space platforms, and trillions will live in space. But that’s illogical. We do not have the resources to physically transport trillions of people into outer space. Plus there is the issue of who would pay for such and undertaking? Who would pay to transport rice farmers from India or China into space? Or banana farmers from Guatamala? Coco farmers from Africa? They can’t even provide adequate food and water for these people now.
    My view is they mean to exterminate us like so many cockroaches. Deny us food and water. Poison our food supply. Spray us with poison. Make us infertile. Exterminate us until we no longer infest the earth. Bezos will then send a limited number of the genome into space to preserve the human race, but not too many. Only enough of the human race so that it will endure. Enough wage slaves to fix the machines he needs for him and his kind to survive.
    This will allow Bezos to keep his toys, save the planet and the human race, and make his place in history. What is interesting about Bezos as opposed to Schwabe and Gates is that he has shone us his view of the earth as a “nature reserve”, his vision of the future of the planet. Other than that he differs very little.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Malla
  19. jsinton says:
    @follyofwar

    I don’t believe that a world without a “radical depopulation” agenda spells the “end of life on earth”. Secondly, laws against “genocide” and in support of “human rights” preclude such a depopulation agenda. In other words, radical depopulation is another form of genocide, and therefore illegal and rates a trip to the gallows. Human extermination cannot be done with a “degree of compassion”. Whether you believe eugenics is a “God given right” or not doesn’t really matter. It’s simply a way to judge it. I contend that it is not a “God given right”. I believe that Bezos, Schwabe, and Gates will find that out the hard way.

  20. Your argument stands, …your conclusions might be wrong.

    This is what the great RESET means between others: since data searches and analytics upon the fraction of layered data that matters, are readily available to the thinking part(policy makers) of the elites, that being a very small fringe group in the huge basket of billionaires, politicians, academics, scientists, there was a dawning phase. The conscious realization of “not-infinite” growth, has gained executionary strength(Covid-vaxxing, the question of Europe). The suicidal impact, inclusively to the elites and their ways of life()the only thing that counts to them, in any scenario) of what i call Con-z-umerism thrown against resources reached a tres-hold, and is not infinite, is now well understood, and pretensions to the contrary is destined to the public domain myths cooking.

    If you prefer, the trade-of between gain and derivatives(the negative side effects) of total population, and population density has been reached for dozens of years and can be quantified. So yes, your argument: the real policy of the “elites”(indeed a stinking tar-ball) was inciting growth with a vengeance, —and a freight train is hard to stop. This is what you so readily observed and is genuine.

    There is however a re-engineering process which is less visible(global, ‘rule-based’, coordinated between the bigger players, International Jewry, Putin, Xi), due to it’s recent nature, especially on the social timeline of history, that is incomprehensible, since mostly, for now still invisible. Open your eyes!

    To cede you the benefit of doubt: the push for depopulation in policies on the planetary level might well loose momentum(even that would be hard to score, since it is wrapped within the total “package” of confusing policy making), but that will only mean delay. Depopulation m-u-s-t be, as much to the advantage of the majority of the global population of the future generations. The argument as to exo-biosphere is not scalable in the near future. The argument as to depopulation is a solid and hard one, a pressing one, — only, it cannot of be thrown into the public domain.

    [Please haul away these arguments for your own dissertations, if not some narrator here on unz, or elsewhere, will get all of the credit. As to anything, there is a time-frame.]

    • Replies: @anon
  21. @PetrOldSack

    I guess you’re not a native English speaker because I can’t make out any reasonable content in all your words. Alternatively, you are a native English speaker but you’ve graduated from a humanities or social sciences institution and are a follower of professor Irwin Corey.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Thanks: Charon
    • LOL: Realist
    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
    , @obwandiyag
  22. @jsinton

    I read that some huge percentage of US residents are on some form of anti-depressant. Millions vote in obviously completely controlled elections. They volunteer to become soldiers to murder people they don’t know in foreign countries while claiming to be christians or other followers of religion. They are terminally stupid.

    The average person in 1st world countries considers Doritos and Coca Cola food and drink. They believe that GMO crops are a good thing due to the false promise of increased production per acre and have no qualms about consuming it. People are lining up to eat phony meat burgers and some are championing eating bugs and lab grown shit. The bulk of the populations in these countries has lined up to get the jab.

    It should be obvious that the people want these things and require no more than a little propaganda to get them to opt for the poisoning you mentioned. The problem is that the bulk of the world people are too stupid to understand what they are volunteering into. There’s no way to “fix” their lack of IQ and belief in complete bullshit like religion and government and hence they are committing suicide without knowing it.

    There is no genocide involved when the average person chooses a life style that leads to their demise. Getting rid of a few billion morons isn’t a bad thing.

    • Thanks: RJ Macready
    • Replies: @Weave
  23. Animal populations expand according to the availability of food to support that growth. Their numbers naturally contract when the food supply declines. In our arrogance we forget that our species is still subject to the laws of nature. Famine and/or epidemic disease are the natural controls on excess animal populations, including our own. Humanity will handily survive either or both catastrophes but advanced technological society will not. Our descendants will return to the way humans always lived, before the Industrial Revolution ran its course, and once again sustainability naturally replaces the resource-hungry luxury that even the poorest among us take for granted.

    As for COVID, seems to me that the way the regime bungled the so-called war on terror is the most immediate reason to be suspicious of its new war on a remarkably not-so-deadly deadly virus. The corporate media always carry water for the state, and they are never more servile than when the nation is placed on a war footing. The fact that U.S. presidential administrations, as a matter of course, manufacture fact-free narratives designed to mislead a domestic American audience should not come as a shock to anyone who has studied the intersection of public and foreign policy in the United States since the First World War. There is no reason to suspect that a state that has systematically lied to us in living memory about everything from Vietnam to Russiagate has suddenly had a miraculous change of heart, or an injection of competence.

    • Agree: Rev. Spooner
  24. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    People bloviating about overpopulation never consider themselves to be part of the problem. It’s always other people who are superfluous. They could help alleviate the problem through assisted suicide but there’s no takers for that. Concern about global warming is a smokescreen for believing there’s too many of the wrong kind of people around. They’ve already been working on lowering population rates through subterfuge, promoting anti-man feminism, promoting homosexuality and sexual deviancies, making family formation difficult and expensive, extolling the child-free lifestyle, etc. Bioweapon covid killed a lot of “useless eaters”, mostly retired and sickly types who weren’t producing value for someone else. Perhaps some more viruses are on their way. What’s unsettling is that there’s a number of wealthy and powerful people scheming on how to get rid of a lot of us. And that’s ‘us’, not ‘them’.

  25. @RoatanBill

    Thanks, i even look the part.

    • Replies: @Montefrío
  26. We will reduce the human population one way or another. By slow, carefully planned, humane methods, of female empowerment, poverty reduction and limits on family size, preferably voluntary, but possibly financially rewarded. Or by ecological collapse, ie rapidly and catastrophically. That is already happening, so the hour is late. I suspect that the mRNA ‘vaccines’ may be agents of mass sterilisation-time will tell.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @obwandiyag
  27. @jsinton

    If you think that the Earth can sustain several billion people consuming at present, and increased, levels, you are insane. Already nearly all life supporting bio-systems are in full collapse, or teetering on the brink, while hordes of deranged imbeciles deny that it is even occurring.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Montefrío
  28. nsa says:

    The evolutionary purpose of humans is to remove the accumulated carbon from the earth’s surface and return it to the atmosphere…..then go extinct. The atmospheric carbon will then usher in a new golden age of plant life.

  29. @mulga mumblebrain

    Now you´re talking (I´ve never been shy about my neoMalthusian persuasions but was under the impression you were some kind of Gretta zombie; and you´re calling female empowerment “humane”?! 😛 ).
    Of course we will reduce the human population, but this opens several cans of worms. Reduction per se being unnatural (the overproduction/culling cycle the norm),
    selection will be even more so. Under the current humane regimen only the
    religious and the antisocial – neither famed as the smartest faction – are still breeding.
    And that´s only for one population! Like Life itself, reduction will need quite
    meaningful borders to keep out the Second Law (=Chaos), borders that cannot be
    held by a shrinking population (the conflation of Life and the Tragedy of the Commons is intentional) so I guess any thought of controlling it is delusional and Nature (=death match) will come into Hers again. We already are far in overshoot so the reduction will be great and most assuredly not pretty.
    The ways of preserving your genes are the usual:
    – Assemble large numbers of fanatical and well-armed disciples, or
    – Live where no one is interested in (which will become difficult).

    Good Luck 😉

    (As for the vaccines being “it” I´d have to assume the Israelis got saline and that´s a bit too farfetched)

    • Replies: @in the middle
  30. @American Citizen

    Like the way a child would be treated. That’s how our “leaders” view us. Children too stupid to understand what’s good for them, and any questions are treated as insolence needing punishment.

    You nailed it.

    History has been very clear on what happens to “leaders” who treat their subjects like children.

    They rule for a while–but eventually the guillotines find their heads.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  31. @Justvisiting

    History is bunkum. Never have the ruling parasites had the tools in surveillance, monitoring, coercion, brainwashing etc, that they do today. Moreover, as John Jay observed, they can hire one half of the population to kill the other half, then again, and again, until the serfs are reduced to tractable proportions. Not to forget bio-warfare.
    The pandemic has created a huge body of deracinated, hysterically fearful, neurotic ‘liberals’ who have bought EVERY lie, hook, line and sinker, even after the ‘authorities’ have been proven to be liars and manipulators. These freaks now accuse people like Rogan, who dare discuss matters with world experts in the field, of ‘killing’ people through ‘disinformation’ ie advocating ivermectin, one of the safest drugs ever developed. The liberal fascists will be happy to join in a great cleansing of the human hive, be assured of that.

    • Agree: GMC, Notsofast
    • Replies: @Brad Anbro
    , @Montefrío
  32. @nsa

    There is a non-trivial risk that the forcing of greenhouse gases being so huge and so rapid, that positive feed-backs like the release of methane from submarine clathrates, CO2 and methane from permafrost, methane and CO2 from dying tropical forests, CO2 from warming oceans, albedo flips as ice melts etc, will cause hundreds of millennia of utter chaos and devastation. Perhaps a runaway greenhouse will take millions of years to reverse, if ever, as the Sun slowly warms.

    • Troll: Eric Novak
  33. I was thinking myself that there are too many of us before this new turn up for the books.

    It seems that there might be a de pop agenda – which is scary. But if that is the case they are already doing it, and there’s nothing I can do to stop it.

    The question about whether the ends justifies the means interests me. I am reminded of John Fowles’ The Magus.

    Would you kill someone to save others? Would you kill thousands to save the planet?

    Or is this some kind of malevolent stakeholder claim on humanity at large?

    I don’t know, but when I read The Magus, I understood that to kill anyone at the behest of greater good is somehow wrong. I feel that in my soul.

    • Replies: @Peter Rabbit
  34. Franz says:

    The USA and Canada would have had negative growth, because that’s what the people in both nations wanted. After the “boom” years most young people wanted… more room. But this was vetoed by precisely the Rich who are now complaining about population. They were all for in-migration to the so called high wage countries.

    Africa and parts of Asia keep over breeding, but if we quarantine them, the problem of overcrowding is solved. Face it, they’re way over the line.

    Egypt had 7-10 million people in 1900. They have over a hundred million now. That is too much by any metric. Sure enough Egypt is one of the nations that wants to take advantage of the countries of the north and sent immigrants. We have to learn to say NO.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Peter Rabbit
  35. omegabooks says: • Website

    “…The people in a position to make these kind of decisions are primarily comprised of two personality types: sociopaths and justifiers. ”

    I think you meant psychopaths…to call them “sociopaths” is waaaayyyyy too kind!

    And actually, I’d love it if these psychopaths all head to Mars or Jupiter or… just get the heck off Earth! Before they destroy it all! Talk about “useless eaters”!

    But that’s okay…as a certain Dude who lived from 4 BC to 29 AD once said, folks like these psychopaths will wind up in the outer darkness, “where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth”…Satan’s teeth on their psychopathic souls, or bones, as they weep…forever! When “useless eaters” become the useless ate…. As the late, great Bob Marley once sang, “There is no hiding place from the Father of Creation.”

    • Replies: @Hyper Bole
  36. bert33 says:

    Condoms. They’re not evil, they just stop unwanted pregnancy. People are getting more educated today and making their own choices on if/how many kids to have. Maybe if they built more condom factories then people would have better access to at least one means of birth control.

    Nevermind the politicians, study the issue for yourself, what does it take to keep 8 billion people alive and halfway healthy because that’s where we are in 2022, 8 billion, and things could get ugly very quickly…food wars. Imagine the possibilities.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  37. @RoatanBill

    Irwin Corey!!!!!

    Kudos for referencing the good Professor!!!!!

  38. @mulga mumblebrain

    It’s even easier than that. Increase A. female literacy, and B. food availability, and population drops like a rock. Every single time.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  39. @mulga mumblebrain

    You won’t like this, but global warming isn’t caused by CO2. It’s caused by very big, nasty ozone holes that never went away, that were not caused by HFCs but were caused by atmospheric nuclear testing and spaceships piercing the stratosphere, and one of which sits dead center over Australia.

    • LOL: Eric Novak
  40. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    The thing is it is mainly in the West that people have taken the vaccine, not in (low-IQ) sub-Saharan Africa.

  41. Anonymous[196] • Disclaimer says:
    @jsinton

    I would only add that the PTB have no God-given right to depopulate the earth, and that their souls are condemned to Hell (sic) for all eternity.

    I would be more cautious about condemning people to hell for eternity. That is for God alone. A better practice is to pray for them, that they will have a conversion of heart. Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.

    • LOL: RoatanBill
  42. Malla says:
    @HammerJack

    And those cities were really White in demographics. But Whitey like an idiot gave his modern medicine to hostile darkies like a fool. Thanks those stupid missionaries. Then whitey decided to mass kill each other and then let there be feminism and Cultural Marxism. What a smart people?

  43. Depopulation is not for dummies, it is for people who think and see the world going to shit and say, you know we were better off before we had so many damn people. I am for the reduction of human population not because I am some eugenicist prick but because life was better without so many damn retards. And seeing which way the world is going it is only going to get worse, way worse.

    I told my children to not breed, and I told them why – earth is hell, a prison planet – and if you are a loving compassionate human being why in the hell would you want to bring a child into this realm. I know for myself it would of been better if I was not born, in fact I most decidedly have determined that the only real heaven is non-existence, and have wrote many an essay on this, arguing that all life is suffering – so what the hell is the point of existence if we suffer.

    Really, seriously, how can you be against lowering the human population? Sure, we are all against Margeret Sanger and Klaus Schwab and his sidekick Bill Gates, but be serious about this issue, is depopulation really some bad thing when there are 8 billion egotistical humans all wanting to live like Amerikans with a 3 bedroom, 2 bath house and attached garage with a huge power boat and a couple of 3 ton cars? Just look at the size of the latest Ford Pickups and say, how much more ridiculous is this that one man drives a \$75,000 truck as his passenger vehicle, with it’s 12 radiators?

    I am not talking about some green issue of environmental impact, I am talking about how such a monstrosity V-8 big bore big block is the goal of an average consumer who is in a ego struggle to out do the other guy down the block with his twin turbo diesel blowing a cloud of black soot just to get to work. And it isn’t going to stop, the whole world wants to have that, and I know because I travel and every Guamanian wants a huge truck, and so does every Hawaiian construction worker. They want huge trucks, here, there and probably in Australia too. Basically, I got mine, and fuck you too is the attitude of so many workers caught up in the daily struggle to survive.

    I tell everyone a shocking way to look at the huge increase in population in the last century, when my dad was born there were only 2.0 billion people on the planet, he is still alive and now there are 8 billion, a 4x increase in less than one lifetime. That is a huge change in a short period of time. Compare that to Neanderthals, where their world, and population and technology didn’t change for 50,000 years.

    https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/

    I remember when I would hunt as a boy in the woods I loved, and now when I return to my parents house all those woods are now carved up into 5-10 acre lots and 4,000 square foot homes. It makes me sick, progress they call it, more houses for more people who are all breeding – you get the picture. So what happens when the world is 20 billion, or 50 billion? I will tell you what that means, life will suck as nature will all be occupied by humans with lawn mowers and huge yards created by d-7 bulldozers which pushed acres of trees over just so another guy could have his dream come true – a house in the country away the noise of the city, where he goes everyday to work and hates every minute of it.

    We live in a world gone mad with power and money and possessions and the need for more, bigger, and better. I don’t see it ending, and the alternative to free lifestyle is an even worse hell, a technological controlled communist nightmare. What could be worse than owning nothing, have you ever been homeless with nothing? Not good. We need stuff, lots of stuff, like cars and houses, and good food and entertainment. But if we allow the human population – especially in the third world to keep going up we are literally creating a nightmarish future.

    So, the bottom line, I talk to my friends and family much about this Covid killoff, I am not out there protesting it, I am not participating in it, and I warn every one I can about the deadly vaxx – 99% won’t hear a word I say about it – so I am letting the world and Nature to takes it’s course. The way I see it that a huge dieoff is a very good thing. Houses and food will get cheaper, there will be less traffic noise, and less people on welfare. In my world, humans dying means there’s going to be better hunting as there will be less hunters.

    And look who’s is getting jabbed – rabid leftists, authoritarians, anti-Libertarians, stupid people who have made CNN there reality, people who are so damn lazy they refuse to look up the conspiracy theories why you shouldn’t get vaxxed. How many god damn retards have told me that they are “fully vaxxed”? Why do they feel the need to even tell me such a stupid thing? I see this death jab as a Darwinian stress on the human population, those who don’t get it are going to be soon out of the gene pool. That is good for me and my view, because if all the retards kill themselves off by allowing the government to inject toxins into their bodies, the survivors will be like me – an individualist who opposes social herding, who opposes statists, who opposes television watchers. Good riddance say I.

  44. Bill Gate’s 2017 admission that vaccines are designed so governments can depopulate the world …

    The author ought to be ashamed of himself, for this is either an instance of lazy Cut/Pasting, or dishonesty. A few minutes of searching would have shown him what Gates was talking about when he was making a boilerplate pitch without notes and left out a couple of key phrases.

    The only way that happens is with nuclear war, and all parties involved know that’s suicide.

    Nonsense. The author really needs to do some serious reading about War.

    From an ethical point of view it should be noted that this idea that the PTB wouldn’t release a bioweapon capable of killing millions of people on the premise of “they care about us so much” is both disingenuous and naive. The people in a position to make these kind of decisions are primarily comprised of two personality types: sociopaths and justifiers.

    Notice the author suddenly remembers bioweapons exist. But he’s correct regarding the two personality types. IMO he ought to have included “clueless idiots” as a third type.

    Bezos and Space Habitats:

    The only way his vision doesn’t become reality is if it’s impossible to achieve.

    I’d welcome anyone describing how his “vision” has any chance at all with today’s technology. A bright multi-billionaire may have a dream, but as things stand now he’s entirely delusional. It’s true technology advances, but seldom can the needed ‘stuff’ be pulled out of thin air on a schedule, no matter how much money gets thrown at the project.

    I found this essay to be a frothy mix of truths, half-truths, and at least one verifiable lie.

    • Replies: @Peter Rabbit
  45. Malla says:
    @jsinton

    We do not have the resources to physically transport trillions of people into outer space.

    Sending the wrong kind of humans will give us space ghettoes and space slums. Also how are humans to survive the extreme radiation in space?
    Imagine a bunch of ghetto thags shooting all around in a pressurised space ship and creating holes in the ship exo-skeleton. Or some Middle Eastern farmers shooting “in the air” to celebrate a marriage? Or some ghetto thag becoming a captain due to AA, manoeuvring his ship through asteroids and calls in da bitches for ass twerk lapdance!!
    Humans are too primitive for all this, not evolved enough.

    • Replies: @Norham Foul
  46. Cortes says:

    The “virtual reality” obsession is reminiscent of Perky Pat:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Days_of_Perky_Pat

    If memory serves, the version played in “The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch” proved less than enchanting for one horny couple.

  47. “or that the virus itself was man-made and intentionally released from a Chinese lab with the purpose of killing millions of people”

    I don’t believe this. I believe it was released as an economic burden on China but got out of control.

    • Replies: @Peter Rabbit
    , @Billy Ash
  48. @mulga mumblebrain

    Do you know the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere? It is 4 parts per 10 000. Me thinks those 4 parts have to work really hard to warm up the other 9996 parts.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  49. tosca says:

    Sorry folks, you are naive or fearful in front of to-day real scenario. The strategy is clear, though I cannot see all its aspects and facettes, which are numerous, by no means. If you look at all that is happening, you cannot see a vast strategy, which involves ‘health’, economy, currencies, etc. Globalism is being implemented on numerous fields, which seem only independant from one another at first glance. Messianism and millenarism are the core strategy. They want to create the new Golden Age, described in the occulist litterature since hundreds of years. Do not underestimate the occultist subterrean secular current. It is NOW implemented, because now, they have the technological means which enable the radical transformation of the Earth, in accordance with their messianic scopes. There are scores of ‘sects’ , but they all tend to the same scope: the Golden Age, but only for the few, only for the self declared ‘elected’. It’s the end of the line for this humanity. The outcome will probably not match their plans, but everything is being put upside down, exclusively for their benefit. There are not too many people, there are too many rich .

  50. WION is a punka-wallah neo-Nazi group, insanely anti-China, and, at present, very much pro-Nazi in Ukraine. One of its slapper correspondents is in Ukraine singing the praises of the fascists and neo-Nazis that have flocked to the Ukronazi cause, to get some death-squad training and experience-always useful when working for The Empire.

    • Troll: BuelahMan, Eric Novak
  51. @RoatanBill

    Population may fall in the next few decades, but it will have to, as ecological collapse proceeds apace. The human population will reduce this century, in a crash if we continue to ignore the ecological constraints on human activities. or slowly but inexorably if we grow brains and remove the growth fetish cancer metastases from all power.

  52. @jsinton

    radical depopulation is another form of genocide

    Technically, it isn’t genocide if applied to one’s own people, as in China. Where ethnic minorities were exempt from the one-child policy.

  53. @TG

    Capitalism requires growth, because profits must always rise and interest on debt must be paid. Capitalism, particularly financialised capitalism, and human existence of Earth are antitheses.

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Anon
  54. The breakdown of the traditional family as the result of radical feminism is the biggest contributor to the reduction in birthrates.

    The author seems to have pulled this out of thin air. I’m going to say the biggest contributor is overcrowding. Out in the deserts, mountains, and oceans, we are happy to meet other people with a hello and a smile. We may even walk together for a day or two. In the cities (and aren’t there a lot of them), the teeming millions just get in our way; we spend all day trying not to notice people.
    So what are you going to do? Have a few babies? No way!

    The world needs to depopulate. The sudden appearance of 7,500,000,000 medium-sized mammals (humans), plus 3,000,000,000 large ones (cattle), plus billions of sheep, pigs, chickens, and so on are driving wild species to extinction. Where have all the fish and birds gone?

  55. Regeant. says:

    If the goal is sterilization with the so called vaccine, then it is not being used on the right populations. The best and brightest of humanity are Europeans and East Asians.

    It could be phrased as “Caucasians” instead of narrowing it down to Europeans, but the truth is that the historical Caucasian populations of North Africa and the Middle East have been negro-fied and are mixed race mutts now. They have the low IQs that come with negro blood and the inbreeding that Islam encourages doesn’t help them either.

    East Asians are the Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans. South East Asians have a good deal of “Negrito” blood which has a dumbing down effect similar to what Negroid-African blood does. Indians have Australoid blood which is similar to the latter.

    The jab has been taken by Europeans and East Asians at the highest percentages, so if it has a fertility reducing component then humanity is going to be a lot dumber down the road and it will happen fast.

    Devil’s advocate however – may be that the jab will protect against a Covid variant that is being cooked up now that will wipe out those who have not taken it.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  56. @mulga mumblebrain

    I believe that it was Jay Gould, railroad tycoon, wh0 stated that he could hire the one half to kill the other half…

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  57. The late Dr. Luc Montagnier stated that spike protein injectees have no possibility for survival and with several billion now thus injected the matter is not open to further discussion.

  58. @Franz

    That is certainly reasonable; let the over-populators solve their own problems instead of bringing them to others.

  59. @Green Pyramid

    Fauci unquestionably demonstrates that it is “evil to kill anyone at the behest of a greater good.” But then Fauci is evil incarnate anyway.

  60. @Steven80

    the riling class

    Wonderful typo!

    • Replies: @loren
  61. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    Great article, except the very last part. 1) It’s not “European man”, who are now utterly impotent and powerless, but the jews. 2) They are going to spectaculatly fail, with the already dead muttmerican empire. lmao!

  62. SafeNow says:

    The essay and comments are superb, but if a nuclear war occurs (like, maybe this coming Wednesday), they will need to be revised; oops, by whom?

  63. mkr says:

    There are many groups of people that would be interested in depopulation.

    If one group of religionists wanted to get rid of whole religions and whole Gods they could imagine killing all its adherents and burning all its books.

    If one race of people wanted to get rid of whole races of other people they could imagine killing all people of those particular races.

    People who imagine a forever society that never stops technological progress and that uses the Earths resources responsibly in order to achieve that forever technological society could imagine killing billions of people so that they don’t use the resources, in particular the non-renewable resources. These are the people that want a technological dictatorship that uses the Earths resources responsibly (read the Georgia Guidestones).

    The list of groups of people that would be interested in depopulation goes and on and on, for instance, simple everyday people who are tired of traffic jams, waiting in lines, and polluted air could imagine a vastly depopulated world.

    The whole man-made climate change ideology leads straight to depopulation because that is the most effective means of “solving” man-made climate change. You can ask everyday people who believe in the ideology whether or not they think the Earth is overpopulated and probably a majority of them will say that it is, if you ask them what can be done about it they throw up their hands or they may say that nature will take care of it if human beings don’t wise up and have less children, always failing to realize that they have been manipulated to believe in an ideology where many powerful people who promote it don’t throw up their hands or say that nature will take care of it, but rather they go behind closed doors and make plans.

    In the 1970s the Joint Chiefs of Staff presented to the President of the United States National Security Memorandum 200 which detailed ways to reduce the population in third world nations so that they would not use their own natural resources. They wanted to purposefully create civil wars, wars, and famine in order to make it so that those nations would not become developed nations.

    Even the money system needs constant economic expansion in order to not fall apart, so many “economists” envision depopulation as a way to keep the money system we have but “resetting” it with less people so that the people can once again be motivated to innovate through the incentive of economic expansion. The 20th century was the most innovative century the world has ever seen, the money system constantly expanded while constant innovation made it possible to live a longer life, or even a life at all, and at the same time the worldwide population expanded and only recently stabilized and is even declining in developed relatively free nations.

    List goes on.

    It’s clear that developed nations where the people are free to be themselves in life and are not forced to be subservient to others in order to survive, such as men and women being free to live alone and have no children and to pursue the life and goals that they want to live is the key to stabilizing the population of the world. All developed nations of the world where the people are free in this manner have stabilized their populations or are even somewhat declining. This is a good thing, freedom, freedom to have a family of any size and freedom to not have a family at all. Freedom fixes everything. The main people that hate a stabilizing population are the bankers and the economists, the money system needs to constantly expand which happens at a high rate when the population is expanding, which is why we have a stabilized population in America but open borders for immigrants to arrive, ever expanding the population in America without “over-populating” the hemisphere.

    There is a way to do everything technological that we do now and that we will want to do in the future by just changing the technology that we use in order to make the same products and provide the same services. We do not have to tolerate polluted air, water, or land, pollution is not a theory, it is a fact, and it is not good. There is a way to fix all of this so that we can all live in a forever technological society where the people are free to be themselves in life and aren’t ruled by tyrants but rather by Natural Law, the way nature intended.

    Even the cultists and satanists of the Earth, many of them would imagine challenging the existence of God through purposeful enactment of things that challenge Gods existence or that put prophecy into play to challenge Gods existence. For instance, in Revelations, just before God show Himself, you can’t buy or sell (mandates) without the mark of the beast = mRNA “vaccine” that alters the function of Gods creation so that human bodies produce the Covid 19 spike protein like a factory, it’s very beast-like to think that it’s not crude and unacceptable to manipulate genetics in such a way. Or, the antiChrist stands in the temple of God (human body) proclaiming himself to be God. Or, why not just try to kill everyone except a small group which pledges not to procreate themselves: in the Bible it says that Gods Kingdom on Earth is forever, you need people to have a forever Kingdom: “Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this”.

    Or this, again, from Isaiah, “For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else”.

    It’s unfortunate that this is a reasonable, logical, and timely conversation to be having at any time in human history. It is not healthy to think these thoughts. Life is supposed to be good.

  64. @TG

    “If that fails, the rich replace them with the surplus population of countries where people will breed like cattle – and no, immigration does not just move people around, it maximizes total global population. Everyone escaping from a place like India, simply makes more room for another person to be conceived and survive to adulthood, while demographic momentum means that the receiving country will have its population boosted by a minimum of 2 or 3 people.”
    I think you are pretty spot-on.
    Immigration is a means of opening up space in over populated counties for continuing high fertility outcomes. And naturally the country experiencing immigration increases it’s population.
    Elites love the idea of a nest of rats eating each other.
    Of course it’s a bit of a gamble — elites don’t mind us tearing each other apart, but they don’t want complete systemic collapse — that could possibly be a downer on their party, or a great pissing on their parade…. Still they have their bolt holes & an invincible belief in their own entitlement. Give them a decade or 2 & it maybe like that film, Elysium (only worse).

  65. @Curmudgeon

    Australia is a similar story (although I’m not sure about the exact ethnic break down of immigrants. I believe we still take quiet a few people of white British extraction [inc Rep’ of Ireland])

  66. Start first with useless male eaters in cities, breeding with dozens of other useless female eaters to the tune of 40-75 unsupported children, also useless eaters, each. Then the countries with 7.1 children per woman. That would be Africa and most of the middle east. If Western countries are all below replacement today, it is only in the aforementioned situations that gains in population control can be achieved. Otherwise the world is only populated by black useless eaters, who are also criminally violent practically from birth. That what the elites really want? The lights don’t stay on long that way.

  67. Author has been reading too much science fiction.

  68. Z-man says:

    Due to this article I have upped the numbers in my brilliant ‘culling’ post:

    “The Culling: *
    What we need is 500 (+150) million negroes culled, followed by 500 (+100) million from the Asian sub-continent followed by 500 (+100) million Orientals, a sprinkling of central/south Americans (35 million), 25 million Arabs and of course the magic ‘6 million’ Chosen Ones.

    *In proportion to where they live. Example, Negroes in Africa, North (formerly Anglo) America and Latin America. The sub-continent-Proportionally between India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Ceylon (Sri Lanka).

    Note: Add to that the most preposterous anti-white, formerly Christian, shit lib Caucasian/white/Europeans from all countries, say another 25 million” and we have a start. (Devilish grin)

    • LOL: Sepp
  69. Sarah says:

    It’s about time that White European Caucasians, East Asians and South East Asians realize that they have been manipulated into having as few children as possible, or worse, no children at all, by the deceptive propaganda of a handful of powerful and perverted people whose only goal is to increase their power and wealth at the expense of the rest of the world.

    I say to all those I quoted at the beginning :

    Stop listening to these psychopaths, philanthropists and sociopaths, lead your own life and create a family as it is perfectly healthy and natural to do in order to live happily.

  70. Well, first off, you’re terribly misinformed as to the nature and identity of science.

    First, the name is a misnomer. “Scientia” means knowledge, but the scientific method has always and only been a deductive one. Science does not find knowledge, nor was it ever intended to. It does something rather opposite: discard falsities. That is the entire point of deduction, to remove what neither is nor can be.

    Science no more has nor can produce positive knowledge than a chicken produces grain seeds.

    Now, to the second point: the term science is overstretched and ill-defined. We use it for the original method, we use it for the body of information collected for the purpose of disqualifying concepts, and we use it to refer to the group of persons engaged in ostensibly collative/deductive endeavors. All three of these are quite different.

    The scientific method is, as pointed out, purely deductive.

    The scientific collective of information is nothing more than the reports of the witnesses who ostensibly collected, analyzed, and relayed it, and it is no more nor less reliable than they are.

    The people engaged in pursuits portrayed

  71. @obwandiyag

    By far the best (and global) negative correlation with birthrate is
    number of color TVs per capita. Make of that what you will.

    • Replies: @gotmituns
    , @Rev. Spooner
  72. Few things to ponder about:

    1. Since when is antidepressant tablets considered bad? Wellbutrin(bupropian) has helped me more than any exercise/relationship/social success. We are biochemical beings. Pharma is a weapon. There are bad antidepressant stories which garner attention. But there are so many great ones on how pills gave a new lease of life to an individual.

    2. I am an obsessed gamer and started the first VR Cafe in my country in 2016(it got shut after 8 months but thats a different thing). Believe me when I say this….VR is amazing, but….only for gaming, nothing more. What this Zuckerclown is doing with his meta will have far worse recurpussions than social media. Hell, there was a study I read on JSTOR that said that this generation(meaning anyone after 1980) will have serious health issues and will probably not live longer than their predecessors. Yup folks…till now we were progressing in the addition of years on average worldwide, but now it will reverse. Continues screen staring, sitting up their backsides for 9 to 12 of their waking hours and whatnot will result in serious heath issues. With VR it will be worse. Even me, a hard-core gamer can’t sit with my playstation VR for more than an hour. Sure, the hardware will get better to the extent that it will be a pair of sunglasses, as envisioned in science fiction literature and films, but I highly doubt one would simply stay there at the expense of the real world without killing themselves.

    3. The reason 20th century alone contributed to so many deaths is simply down to advanced technology. WW2 alone resulted in more than 50 percent of that number and the difference in technological capability between WW1 and 2( a mere 20 years) was astonishing.

    4. What I believe is that a few intelligent beings from our species will likely emigrate to space stations or bases on the moon(Getting to Mars is impossible). They will propel our species and will be the descendants of mankind, meanwhile the masses on Earth will kill themselves.

    5. The biggest population explosion is in Africa. I go out of my way dissing India, but here I must defend the country. All data indicates a slowdown in population with a hopeful reversal. The average children per woman in the latest study shows an average of 2 children per woman whereas in many African nations it is much higher. I don’t remember what nation but the average there was 6 children per woman!!

    If the white race has any semblance of what the future holds they will take option 3: a new Mayflower but interplanetary. It may seem science fictiony and today clearly the technology isn’t there but if work starts now, maybe in 50 to 75 years a few whiteys could board a spacecraft and leave this drek of a planet behind.

    • Thanks: RedpilledAF
  73. John Boye says:

    Fascinating piece, but one flaw in the theory that the promotion of homosexuality and feminism is primarily about population control is that these movements only have traction in the developed West. The areas of the world with the highest birth rates are untouched by this activism. So, can it make sense?

    • Replies: @Peter Rabbit
    , @jsinton
  74. @bert33

    Trust me…I live in India. I am an Indian. Condoms will not work. My next door neighbor is a Muslim, in his mid 40s and he has 6 kids. Why? Because the almighty Allah said so. The muslims have a sense of unity like no one else(to their credit), but their vision of the future is something I want none of. You want women walking in black burkhas every direction you look? I don’t. That’s regressing on an unimaginable level..and in every nation they are outbreeding the locals at an unimaginable rate, which coming from an Indian is saying something.

    The only solution is Mass sterilization and forced if it has to come to that.

  75. @Yukon Jack

    I agree with all you write but i wonder….why did you have kids when you knew that a.)non existence has always been better and b.) the shitstorm we are in was bound to happen. You’d have seen it coming in 1970.

    I went a step further. Got a vasectomy. Best decision I made. The reasons are:

    1. Look at the state of this planet. It’s a burning furnace getting worse with each passing day.

    2. Climate change, terrorism, massive technological advancement will ensure the future generations will be worse off than us. Even now we are seeing how in a span of 30 years the population is far unhappier than the previous ones. Even in 1990 everyone was much happier overall.

    But then the most important reason is that I am selfish. Plain and simple. Having a child means giving up my playstation. Having a child means worrying and pondering over another human being forever, not to mention the extra cost in finances and sanity. Nope. I’d rather live for me.

    Make money and buy a boat. Cherish the years and revel in the technological marvels(I love VR), hope that something massive happens in the astronomy sphere(first contact would be awesome), sleep with hookers (most women today are hookers), do cocaine and depart this realm. Who gives a shit what happens after me?

    For all the doom and gloom we are facing today- be glad we might be the last generation to have lived a good life, and reveled in great technological advancement. Shits gonna hit the fan in the next 4 to 5 decades.

  76. @Yukon Jack

    If you look at the real statistics, the civilized world is headed for a sharp population reduction with the 1st world countries all well below the 2.1 child replacement figure. The people are deciding individually what they want for their lives. Gov’ts are deciding to import dirtbags for some reason I can’t fathom but related to the constant need for increased GDP, a useless number invented by frauds in the economics swindle. This increase is supposed to happen by importing Guatemalan banana planters that end up on welfare.

    Population is going to fix itself once the world’s economies all crumble in a domino implosion. Access to food will determine population going forward.

  77. @Regeant.

    Maybe the jab was meant to get rid of the really stupid in 1st world countries that rushed to be first in line to be injected with some untested sewage. That would leave the smarter 1st world population with more lebensraum.

    • Replies: @Anon
  78. O'Leon says:

    This article sparingly mentions the MRNA vaccine when that seems the most feasible form of long-term population reduction (via sterilization). The goal is to put it in every infant, so citing how the current birthrate remains is a nonsense point; their plan will take a generation. The need to do it slowly, turn the water to boil with us in the pot not knowing better.

    I’m surprised UBI wasn’t mentioned. The thought that the elite, the mega-corporations and their government pets would pay people to do nothing but sit around and stew about what they don’t have, creating a dangerous underclass when they can simply kill off these people.

    The near-future is going to be wild.

  79. Well, first off, you’re misinformed as to the nature and identity of science.

    The name is a misnomer. “Scientia” means knowledge, but the scientific method has always and only been a deductive one. Science does not find knowledge, nor was it ever intended to. It does something rather opposite: discard falsities. That is the entire point of deduction, to remove what neither is nor can be.

    Science no more has nor can produce positive knowledge than a chicken produces grain seeds. Science is not at all the acquisition of knowledge, it is rather, at its very best, the merciless elimination of errors.

    Now, to the second point: the term science is overstretched and ill-defined. We use it for the original method, we use it for the body of information collected for the purpose of disqualifying concepts, and we use it to refer to the group of persons engaged in ostensibly collative/deductive endeavors. All three of these are quite different.

    The scientific method is, as pointed out, purely deductive, and is of the three the most simple, reliable, and the oldest meaning.

    The scientific collective of information is nothing more than the reports of the witnesses who ostensibly collected, analyzed, and relayed it, and it is no more nor less reliable than they are.

    The scientific professions are those portrayed as most closely and consistently employing the above process and inventory. This is a matter of pure politics with the least necessary relationship of the three to either objectivity or truth.

    Third point: censorship of deceit is excellent and necessary, the difficulty is in ensuring the goodness and fidelity of the censors.

    [MORE]

    Fourth: The climate changers at the top of that cult hierarchy are not primarily depopulationist. They are primarily conmen, frauds, hoaxers, and grifters. It’s less accurate to say that they know perfectly well that we are insignificant to the Earth’s general climate, and more accurate to say that they couldn’t possibly care less either way so long as pockets are turned out for them.

    Fifth: “Obviously, they aren’t going to come out explicitly as depopulationists, any more than diversity advocates are going to openly endorse White genocide.” I would say that you are mistaken on both counts, but you are beginning to try my credulousness.

    Sixth: You are quite correct that war is not a credible depopulation threat. On the other hand:
    -Demoralization.
    -Propaganda,
    -Pornography.
    -“Higher Education”.
    -Social structuring.
    -“Immigration”.
    -Atomization.
    -And Financialization, are not depopulation threats either — they’re an array of deployed depopulation mechanisms, along with many others coming around the turnpike. Complex goals require an array of solvent means. No one is depopulation by itself, they all are together, along with many others.

    Seventh: “Combine that with the technological revolution that has transformed humans into “useless eaters” (consumers who don’t produce). If the PTB believe this to be true…” many of them doubtless do, because it most greatly resembles themselves, whom they know best, and they are increasingly pure parasites. Will they project their own greatest failings upon everyone else as justification for mass murder? They surely will, the histories do not hide it, the only question is which side gets the sharp end first.

    There’s no science to it, they’re looking at themselves, and pretending that we’re like them and that they aren’t.

    “The only way his vision doesn’t become reality is if it’s impossible to achieve. Ask yourself how many things you experience or witness everyday that 100 years ago would’ve been considered impossible by all practical measures.”
    -Like flying cars? Still not a thing and never will be. This is the most difficult concept I am going to touch on. There is such a thing, as engineers should be familiar, as a general optimal mechanism for a given task and scale.

    We see one general optimum with firearms. If there ever is space combat, the weapons will not be energy beams or lasers, they will be kinetic firearms at the human scale and missiles at vessel scales. These are the most capable destructive material devices adjacent the human scale, and they always will be. No major technological advance in the area is possible, only relatively minor optimizations and customizations. They occupy the optimum nexus between efficiency, effectiveness, and practicality within this definition, and the most that will change in a trillion years will be subset permutations.

    The same applies to Mankind. We are Earth-keepers. We are massively optimized and even locked-into this planet in several ways. As far as we are essentially material, we aren’t getting off it under our own power on a permanent basis, none of us are. Bezos is a fantasist hoping against hope to dream a new dream in the stagnating ashes of his progenitors’ once-greater parasitic competence, and stave off his immaterial appointment with the literally higher power.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  80. gotmituns says:
    @nokangaroos

    Correct sir. The TV is the common denominator (and now hand held gadgets so people can still be plugged i while they’re out and about) of all that’s going wrong in our culture. The constant propaganda and brainwashing of our people is visible to the naked eye. Just look at people walking through a parking lot looking at their Iphones rather than paying attention to traffic all around them – ZOMBIES

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  81. @mkr

    “For thus sayeth Yahweh …” “I am Yahweh …” All Gods (gods) have a name. There’s a lot of Lords in England so I doubt the Creator would share a title with humans. Maybe it’s best we begin with the Bible and how it’s hardly accurate and deliberately flawed in many parts …. humans do like to rewrite things so truth won’t be known. The mark of the beast is a shot or vaxx card? I don’t know about that, seems unlikely but you never know.

    Besides ego what is the purpose of having lots of children. My grandfather had 10 kids but were never on welfare or got free stuff like they do today and have gotten for many years now including illegals. But 10 kids or more is all ego and sometimes stupidity. Mankind is out of control, the Creator will not change His ways for man. He’s probably sick of most of us including the religious (church) institutions that claim to be His.

    • Replies: @Peter Rabbit
    , @mkr
  82. @Ukraine Tiger

    By economic burden on China you mean “biological weapon.” True enough, but Fauci and Gates announced a long time before that it was coming to theaters everywhere.

  83. Anon[378] • Disclaimer says:

    I read halfway through these retarded comments and am amazed no one mentions peak oil. Seems like oil equals food, all the wailing of mice and men won’t change that. And the moronic, ‘we’ll just go to space’ is the dumbest distraction yet.

    • Replies: @anon
  84. The narrative does not support the facts. Depopulation is happening naturally AND it was probably overstated anyway. That is, the known population estimates and data are probably way overstated by our PTB’s.

    Since there’s no AI that can accurately pinpoint the Earth’s ACTUAL population using satellite data, we live with (corrupt) nation state census statistics, including the USA. The KNOWN statistics show that Asia, especially East Asia is rapidly losing population at an alarming rate exceeding 3% per year. Africa’s population is well overestimated due to this part of the world needing ‘aid’ which is based on population. The actual population of Africa is probably over 50% hyper inflated. Entire populations in Latin America have moved away to the OECD world, yet their governments count them present in their own census’. The list of ‘mal’ information is endless.

    Until we know the world population, it’s hard to establish a depopulation narrative. This fact is easily obtainable using current measurement techniques with available hardware and software and should definitely be attempted. I would be surprised if the real number of people in this planet exceeds 5 billion.

  85. @gotmituns

    But it had to happen. I work in the film business and nothing bothers me more than the mass consumption of data. To put it bluntly there is way too much content. Too many games, too many movies and TV shows, too many books to read. The internet has been a curse in this aspect. But…..

    Once a society has rid itself of basic worries like food and shelter the next step would be to sit back take in knowledge or create knowledge. And what better medium than the medias? Radio led to a vast expanse of humans sharing knowledgeable and the television took it further, the internet has taken it way too far. But the point being after the most basic needs are met what is a human supposed to do? How many books could have been written or read? The television and the smartphones had to arrive. Virtual reality will be the next step most likely.

    People don’t realize that it is technology that has propelled us into the next step of evolution each and every time. Not philosophy, not religion….technology. The fire, the wheel, the printing press, steam engine, radio, telly and the internet have been halcyon leap in the collective civilization. Just think how different the world was in 2000 and in a mere 20 years so much has changed thanks to the internet.

    Your point stands, obviously. But what I feel is that the technology is the medium and nothing more. Like a weapon. Unfortunately it has been misused and overused. Today it’s at peak consumption….4k television, what’s next? 8k? But the content was far better in the 60s or 70s. Watch any chat show or movies. The people who ran the medias – Hollywood and the news ran it into the ground.If all television had was people like Rod Serling we’d be far better off.

  86. @PetrOldSack

    You could do worse, e.g. you could look like Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates. I always appreciated Prof. Irwin Corey.

  87. @mulga mumblebrain

    Back to your usual “normal” comments so quickly. Oh well.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  88. @mulga mumblebrain

    Great balls of fire! I agree with you again, twice in one day!

  89. @Yukon Jack

    Thought provoking, as usual for another an interesting Unz article. It spawns many further interesting and curious comments and ideas. Yet, I am dumbfounded on this comment and I’m compelled to look into it further: “…Ford Pickups and say, how much more ridiculous is this that one man drives a \$75,000 truck as his passenger vehicle, with its 12 radiators?” What Ford Pickup has 12 radiators?

    • Replies: @Yukon Jack
  90. Farquad says:

    Exponential functions work in reverse too, all that is required is to have death rates exceed birth rates for a time.

    COVID was probably supposed to be more deadly, but the globalist elites always believe they are smarter and have more control than they do. They are always caught off guard when the universe is more complex than they anticipate and does not cooperate.

    The vaccine may have a bigger impact though, but it’s still too early to tell. It won’t be a mass casualty event with people dropping in the streets, rather by a remaining lifetime of illnesses, greater and smaller, leading to earlier deaths. They did manage to get billions to go along, so the effect could be huge in the long run.

    Probably the coming economic collapse will have a bigger impact overall. Peak oil was real, and we no longer have the excess energy to support the population we have, therefore that population will drop – somehow. The globalists great evil is to believe they get to choose who makes it, but they will fail in that as they always do.

    As for space, humans cannot survive anywhere but earth. Also it costs way too much energy to dispose of excess humans that way, so simpler methods will be used. It’s a manifestation of the delusions of the globalists, although it would be wonderful if they’d all launch themselves off to mars.

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  91. @Malla

    Speaking of Bezo’s and slums in space, do check out Amazon Primes series “The Expanse.”

    • Thanks: Malla
  92. Mike Tre says:

    “Let’s ask a few elites what they think:”

    And further, how many children they themselves have spawned.

    The problem with human population growth is that the wrong types of humans (SSA’s subcons, ME’s,) have the high birth rates.

    • Agree: 3g4me
  93. Some think the depopulation agenda has been around since World War II and is the driving force behind bankster-driven globalism:

    Kevin Galalae on COVID-19 and the Global Depopulation Policy https://www.unz.com/audio/kbarrett_kevin-galalae-on-covid-19-and-the-global-depopulation-policy/

  94. @John Q Duped

    It is shallow to say that having children is “ego.” The mystery of life is what it is. Of course ten children and up (Fath Ali Shah had over a thousand) is overdoing it.

  95. SZ says:

    Three missing points:
    1) If depopulation, especially eugenic depopulation, were to be sought, financial incentives for single motherhood (the socialisation of the cost of bad partner choice) would have been eliminated. But that is not the case. The same circles that are behind the covid scam also promote incentives for single motherhood. Turning weaklings into gay or trans (castration) does not by itself eliminate fertility: a tiny amount of men can impregnate lots of women. In fact, all domesticated species consist of few (intact) males and lots of females.
    2) If depopulation, pure depopulation, were to be sought, all welfare payments per child or per capita would have been transformed into per household payments as a fixed amount to those in need. Hence, the needy would not expect an increase of handouts in case of procreation but a decrease of funds available for personal use. As such, stupid women wouldn’t have an incentive to conclude any pregnancy by the gap-toothed morons who impregnate them, irrespective or whether they are married or not. A per household welfare scheme would perfectly fit the ‘put-up-your-googles-and-join-virtual-reality’ agenda eliminating any incentive for marriage or fertility. But that is not what is being implemented. In all developed and most developing countries, there exist some sort of per child welfare payment that further increases in case of divorce or single-hood of the mother. Hence, policies do well promote fertility, but only the dysgenic type.
    3) If overall and worldwide depopulation were to be sought, all national and international food relief and aid programmes were to be transformed into per household or per adult schemes, but that is nowhere the case. Imagine an African women with 5 children handed out the same amount of monthly staples as a mother with only 2. That would surely make fertility plummet in a very short time. Imagine an aid or relief programme tied to on-site availability of free contraceptives. But that is never the case.

    Ergo, depopulation, which might be a necessity and even a noble cause, is not the main aim of the elites. Rather depopulation coupled with degeneration and atomisation is. The elite (at least a tiny fraction of masterminds) does not only want to depopulate, but wishes to quash human dignity and all forms of supra-sexual familial bonds, so that the atomised individual can literally and virtually be enslaved, to be used as organ donors, sex slaves, even as hunting prey in addition to function as domestic and commercial servants.

  96. Adûnâi says: • Website

    > “To the naysayers who might respond with, “if they wanted to implement population control measures, they could just start another world war and kill off millions of people.”: The only way that happens is with nuclear war, and all parties involved know that’s suicide.”

    I feel like the only sane person in a lunatic asylum. Or, a simpler and apter metaphor, the only sighted among the blind.

    How is it not obvious that most of the planet’s population lives in non-nuclear states? Who would bar the nuclear states from genociding the non-nuclear ones? Who would forbid the Chinese and the Hindus from depopulating Africa? Or the Americans from depopulating Latin America?

    This is precisely the question I’ve been asking myself. Had such a depopulation agenda existed, nothing, absolutely nothing would have prevented the USA from settling Japan with Americans back in the 1940s, after their victory in WW2.

    The only reason is because Christian America is the most comically, suicidally, astronomically merciful empire in the history of mankind. Not a single other power had ever been so utterly stupid, so absolutely idealistic and moralistic in preserving muh’ human life. Imagine Hitler als Führer Amerikas, what he would have done with the immense industrial potential of the USA, and laugh at the doom of the whiteboi.

    • Replies: @Jack Sparrow
  97. @omegabooks

    Don’t forget the old standby “Eternity in flaming excrement”.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  98. jsinton says:
    @John Boye

    My sense is in the West you have the proles which are most easily swayed by the propaganda apparatus. People are accustomed to being programmed. So it makes sense they will be most affected as they are the easily swayed. Second, the useless eaters are the most expensive on the planet. Medicare, Social Security, Medicade, etc are expensive programs. So it makes sense the exterminate the high cost useless.

  99. Anonymous[216] • Disclaimer says:

    Bezos and Gates both should have been sterilized from the get-go being that not only both are physically ugly but more importantly, neither of them have invented anything of value. What they’ve done is to take other people’s ideas and inventions to further their greed. And let’s not forget their offspring: sterilize them while we’re at it for a good measure to avoid further shenanigans!

  100. It’s shocking to see how people are STILL so blind to the obvious depopulation agenda:

    -the clot shot / kill shot
    -various other types of jabs
    -ABORTION
    -women in the workforce
    -smaller family sizes / no children “for the environment”
    -sex out of wedlock
    -family seen as “settling down” after you’ve had “fun”
    -pesticides, etc. on our GMO food and kids playgrounds
    -microplastics in everything, but esp. food (packaging) and clothes (polyester)
    -soy in food products (destroys male testosterone)
    -degenerate sexual practices
    -transgenderism
    -pornography, esp. “step” family
    -drag queen story hours (warping the mind’s of young children)

    Shall I go on???

  101. The entirety of the West has not only endorsed feminism and homosexuality, but has vehemently enforced it. People get stuck in the mud moralizing these behaviors instead of rationally processing them. When a person is able to escape their feelings and analyze homosexuality and feminism critically, from an evolutionary perspective, they are able to see these behaviors for what they really are: a crypto-eugenics psy-op.

    When one analyzes them critically, he realizes they accomplish the opposite of “eugenics.” You can only think they’re “crypto-eugenic” if you don’t know the meaning of the word “eugenics” and use it as a shorthand for “anything I don’t like.”

  102. “One in three US residents found a weed killer substance in their urine”
    “..We are talking about the herbicide 2,4-D, which is part of Agent Orange..”
    https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-021-00815-x

  103. anarchyst says:
    @Farquad

    Your comment:

    Probably the coming economic collapse will have a bigger impact overall. Peak oil was real, and we no longer have the excess energy to support the population we have, therefore that population will drop – somehow. The globalists great evil is to believe they get to choose who makes it, but they will fail in that as they always do.

    …is incorrect.

    Far from being “fossil fuel”, planetary-based hydrocarbons are not only plentiful but are being created by yet-unknown processes deep within the earth.
    The term “fossil fuel” was coined in the 1950s when little was known about the processes by which oil is produced.
    Oil is “abiotic” in nature, as even depleted oil wells are “filling back up” from deep below the earth’s surface.
    Oil interests are drilling wells at 5,000 feet, 10,000 feet, and 15,000 feet and deeper, and coming up with oil deposits way below the layers and levels where “fossils” were known to exist.
    As Russia gained much expertise in deep-well drilling and coming up with oil deposits far deeper than that of the level of “fossils”, abiotic oil at extreme depths was actually a Russian “state secret” for a long time.
    Not only that, but there are planetary bodies in which hydrocarbons are naturally occurring (without fossils).
    “Peak oil” and “fossil fuels” are actually false, discredited concepts that environmentalists and others are latching on to, in order to display their hatred of oil being a valuable renewable resource as well as to push prices up.
    Follow the money.

    • Replies: @Farquad
    , @nokangaroos
    , @Towey
  104. A reasonable analogy for the current predicament of humanity would be a lone two year old confined to a room full of dangerous weapons or other types of substances with which he could easily and inadvertently kill himself. Sooner or later the kid will play with a pistol or taste a poison and that’ll be the end. A million or a billion years later, evolution of intelligent design (take your pick) may come up with another sort-of-cognizant species that will take note of the fact that while the dinosaurs were around for 80 million years, homo sapiens were around for less than 2 million.

  105. I’m not volunteering to disappear.

  106. @RJ Macready

    I got married and had children like everyone else, I did it because it was expected of me, I was raised that way, my peers were doing the same. I was raised Catholic and taught to be fruitful and multiply. So if God said it, then it must be ok. I was like everyone else, unconscious of my actions and had yet to reach enlightenment on what the hell was really going on with humans on earth. After reading Lawrence Spencer’s (fictional) epic revelation book “Alien Interview” I changed my mind on just about everything about why we are here, about god, about how we were created etc.

    1. Look at the state of this planet. It’s a burning furnace getting worse with each passing day.

    In case you don’t know climate change is a hoax. Humans can not change the climate and CO2 does not drive temperature. CO2 is a trace gas that has no effect on world temperatures, and in fact CO2 could double and triple and we will careen right back into the ice age.

    It is ludicrous to think a minor change in a trace gas could warm the planet.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @RJ Macready
    , @IronForge
  107. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    The PTB are being impatient needlessly. Jabs and plandemics are not really needed for the cull, the reproductive rate for the human race is plummeting.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/empty-planet-review-a-drop-in-numbers-11549497631

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  108. @Norham Foul

    F-550 for Superbowl Sunday, biggest dick syndrome Yes Virginia, Ford builds these because Billy Joe wants one, to impress everyone in town as biggus dickus. Now multiply this by a hundred million to understand the situation. This vehicle is sold as a passenger vehicle I shit you not.
    I have nothing against pickups and still have one, a 1965 W200 Power Wagon I use for wood cutting. It gets 8 mpg. I did see a Ford with many radiators, I was way back in the North Idaho woods and this former trucker who sold out in California then bought in up north where property was cheap had also bought the latest in trucks, a twin turbo with every option. He showed me the engine compartment, it had radiators stacked upon radiators. Each turbo had one, the intercooler too. There was over a foot thick of radiators. My old Dodge has one radiator.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  109. @h74betatester

    I agree with you and I’ve made similar comments in the past. I was widely ridiculed for it here, but I stand by them.

    The stated African population is incredibly inflated. There is no way that Africa is currently supporting 1.4 billion people when much of it doesn’t have electricity, running water, roads, or any industry to speak of.

    What are these people eating? How are they getting supplied with necessities they can’t produce themselves? And, moreover, who goes out to the African bush to take a census, anyway? If Africa can support that many people with basically no technology and no infrastructure, then Wakanda is real and we should all go and live like Africans.

    The global demand for petroleum is almost unchanged from what it was in 2004, and yet we’ve supposedly added 1.5 billion people since then.

    Something is clearly not right with these numbers.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Thanks: Towey
  110. @Yukon Jack

    Damn this book is right up my alley. Ordered it from Amazon. Only 18 reviews, makes me wonder why these kinds of books are rarely read or even heard of and stupid pulp young adult crap sell millions.

    Thank you.
    Here’s the synopsis for anyone interested:

    The content of this book is the letter, official Top Secret U.S. Army Air Force interview transcripts and personal notes I received from the late Matilda O’Donnell MacElroy. Her letter to me asserts that this material is based on a series of interviews she conducted with an extraterrestrial being as part of her official duty as a nurse in the U.S. Army Air Force. The extraterrestrial she interviewed identitied itself as an officer, pilot and engineer of The Domain Expeditionary Force, a race of beings who have been using the asteroid belt in our solar system as a intergalactic base of operations for the past 10,000 years. Her dying request was that the transcripts finally be released to the world. In a letter received with the transcripts, Mrs. MacElroy says: “Mankind needs to know the answers to questions which are contained in these documents: Who are we? Where did we come from? What is our purpose on Earth? If there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe why have they not contacted us? It is vital that people understand the devastating consequences to our physical and spiritual survival if we fail to take effective action to undo the long-standing and pervasive effects of alien intervention on Earth.”

  111. Agent76 says:

    February 12, 2022 Global Research Weekender: What Is WEF’s “The Great Reset” and Why Should We be Worried? By Global Research News

    According to the World Economic Forum(WEF), “There is an urgent need for global stakeholders to cooperate in simultaneously managing the direct consequences of the COVID-19 crisis. To improve the state of the world, the World Economic Forum is starting The Great Reset initiative.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/global-research-weekender-what-is-wefs-great-reset-and-why-should-we-be-worried/5770125

  112. Zorost says:

    Fantastic article.

    The book ‘Seveneves’ by Neil Stephenson posits a future where a few live in space as earth suffers a catastrophe. In the forward he discusses how this idea is from when he was an employee of Blue Origin, and had discussions with Bezos.

    Wars have almost no long term effect on population unless they practice extensive pillaging, which generally doesn’t happen any more. France lost almost an entire generation of men in WW1, putting a big dip in their population curve. Move ahead a few decades and the curve pops up as if WW1 had never happened; the women kept having children at same or greater rates.

    As noted, what changes populations for the long term is changes in reproduction. There has been a lot of research recently on controlling mosquitos in this mode, with some indications that it was being done for more important reasons than controlling bugs in turd world countries.

    Things like make female offspring infertile, but male offspring will pass along that female infertility gene. There is good evidence that covid jabs have greatly different negative effects depending on which batch you get…

    • Replies: @Yukon Jack
  113. Sepp says:

    The biggest and most pressing crisis facing humanity is not over population. It is not global warming or climate change. It is not even environmental destruction and pollution.

    The biggest and most pressing crisis facing humanity is Tikkum Olan, and the tribe of racial supremacists who have been implementing it for over 2000 years.

    With out Tikkum Olan, there would not have been the slave trade, and there would be no negro crisis in North or South America. Without Tikkum Olan there would not have been 2 world wars or countless wars for Judea, and all the destruction of property and wealth never would have occurred, nor all the energy and resources spent rebuilding afterwards. Ordo ab Chao takes energy not only in the destruction phase, but during the rebuilding.

    The holy books of the tribe of Tikkum Olan command their members to “kill all the good goyim”. Without Tikkum Olan, there would have been no Russian Revolution, no Katyn Forest, no genocide of Germany. Europe’s IQ would probably be 10 points higher. All the energy spent rebuilding after the wars and revolutions could have been spent improving humanity, instead of trying to restore it after bouts of Tikkum Olan.

    Even if population is magically reduced to 500 million without the collapse of civilization, so long as Tikkum Olan is still allowed to exist on the planet there will be wars, injustice, rape, perversion, drug addiction, substance abuse and depravity. In short, as long as Tikkum Olan is allowed to persist, we will continue to live on planet Weimar.

  114. Bill Gates said on video in 2017, if we do a real good job with the vaccines , we can lower the worlds population.

    These are the words of a pschopath and a mass murderer , and everyone involved in this mass murder via the covid-19 scam and psyop and genocide MRNA , must be held to account.

    • Replies: @Maowasayali
    , @Yukon Jack
  115. Farquad says:
    @anarchyst

    Utter nonsense. Even if abiotic oil is real, it doesn’t happen at a rate fast enough to have any relevance. The energy in fossil fuel is stored ancient sunlight that fell to earth over millennia, was used by life forms (plankton) to form their bodies, and became trapped in the carbon bonds therein.

    Also the net energy return is what matters – the cost in energy it takes to get the fossil fuel energy you want. Drilling at ridiculous depths or extracting from shale formations does not yield enough net energy to make any sense, expect that it is needed to keep our industrial society going, and therefore it is necessary for the leaders of our society to maintain power. Thus we perpetuate massive financial frauds to pretend things like shale oil work, the banks make loans that everyone knows will never be repaid, and the debts get dumped on the masses.

    In reality we’ve used up most of the positive net energy stored solar energy, and will go back to the real-time flows of solar energy that was once all humans had access to. Our population densities will need to return to the levels those real time flows can support too. The globalist think they’ll get to decide who survives, but they are not in control.

    You keep believing energy is unlimited, it makes you a useful tool.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  116. You have to realize the current elite are either old inbreds. Or they are cheaters extraordinaire, who are dependent of the government-financial matrix. Those types know things in advance. Still think we are in the midst of magnetic pole shift, while exiting a sunspot dormancy phase. If that’s not me be crazy, life on earth will be in for a reboot. If the end of the Pleistocene with the rapid rise of the oceans due to melting ice is any example, some humanity will survive. The current elite are just positioning themselves to be the next sun gods to surviving humanity.

    As for the depopulation agenda, the first worlders even before the jab have volunteered for it. The modern hominids have not. Funny thing is the elite are good with this. Goes back to their future expectations of becoming gods. Perhaps funnier yet, due to their lack of non cheating skills, they are betting on AI to survive everything like destructive solar flares and explosive super volcanos. If it doesn’t…a much deserving oops!

    Curious are there any Nazis aero space engineers, or their remaining secret plans, to transport to their futures space mansions?

  117. Gov’ts are deciding to import dirtbags for some reason I can’t fathom but related to the constant need for increased GDP, a useless number invented by frauds in the economics swindle

    I couldn’t agree more with this: “the constant need for increased GDP, a useless number invented by frauds in the economics swindle” Modern economics is a scam used to justify Rothchild central banking debt based money. ‘The Economist” magazine is a Rothschild publication.

    Yes, indeed, the country is being flooded by non white imported extremely impoverished, that want the low end jobs. Anyone in that strata is screwed, as they are now facing competition from hoards of new arrivals who will take any job, because that was better than the place they escaped from. The shit countries can turn your first world nation into shit if you don’t stop the inflow. That is a fact Jack. But Liberal politicians don’t care, they know those people overwhelming vote for Democrats. The flooding is a political strategy for the Left to stay in power. That is all it is. The effects of that policy are ignored. All that matters is power for them.

    That is a real effect by overbreeding. Third world countries have high fertility rates, but no jobs, so billions (literally billions of humans) are seeking a new place to work in a first world nation. That means Europe, UK, Australia, Amerika are going to be flooded with third world mudbrids for as long as the eye can see unless there is some catastrophic dieoff form plague or war. Our fate is looking grim because this issue can not be politically addressed, because most people have a primitive mythology that tells them to breed.

    So my argument is that forced sterilization for them is becoming a national priority for us. I am not some overcontroller prick, I am just looking at the situation and saying, you know we would all be better off without so many people. Why should we all suffer many billion more humans, take huge cuts in our standard of living? It is irrational to do so. And we do understand biology, we study animal populations and we know exactly what happens when muskrats overbreed in a pond, they end up fighting each other and getting diseased then the population crashes by 90%. Are we just stupid animals who can not manage ourselves better?

    When the Bible was written, there were few people, so the godly instructions is to be fruitful and multiply. But now such wisdom is wrong, there are too many people already, so we should be instructed not to breed to keep our standard of living high. I tell everyone, do you want to live like those people in India or China? The answer is always hell no. I do not want to live in cracker box houses stacked upon one another like this:

    And such luxury is not enjoyed by 95% of the planet. Poor people are envious of endless burbs. I hate the burbs, and I like living way back in the woods away from so many people. I see no advantage of more crowding, more people, more problems like crime and drug abuse. What I am saying is hard cold reality. And we have slimeball politicians flooding our once nice towns with people who have a different religion, different language, and more violent cultural values. That is insane, and we ought to have a revolution and reverse the damage by exporting the dirtbags out of our nice nations.

    That is why A.H. remains a potent force. Nationalist idealism vs cultural Marxist mudbrid insanity. I have said a million times Amerika is ripe for a new Hitler. BTW I don’t vote or participate in any way in politics and have no allegiance to any party or ideology. I am saying loud and clear the situation is going to get more and more untenable until the public reacts and look for a strong man – which is what Trump represents I believe. Amerika in many ways is Weimar Germany.

  118. @nokangaroos

    Add smart phones to color TVs and you have a winner “depopulation” method.

  119. Nick J says:

    Depopulation is a demograhic fact. Its happening in most developed countries as population ages and fertility drops below replacement level.

    If the esteemed clever and wealthy proponents only took notice of the real numbers they would know this.

    • Replies: @Geowhizz
  120. IronForge says:

    We are in a Global Population Spike. Generally Speaking, Modern Medicine and Food Availability have reduced the Infant-Child Death Rates for many Nation-States.

    We also happen to be in a Kornbluth-Style “PopProb” Scenario:

    A) The World Avg IQ is Reported to be Assessed at – 82.

    B) The Avg IQ of the G20 Nations may be Higher; but Migration Demographics into USA and European-G20 suggest Lower IQ Averages moving forward.

    C) In the Upper Echelon Nation-States, their Upper Income Demographics don’t reproduce as much as their Middle-to-Lower Income Residents.

    D) Those corresponding to Kornbluth’s “Elites” are the Sociopathic Western Plutarchy, which have been culminating the Modern Versioned Centuries-Long “Power Struggle of Empires” into a Mass-Murdering Nation-State-Subjugating Global Military-Conquest/Resource-Extraction/Environmental-Pollution/Economic-Exploitation/Labor-Arbritage Racket.

    Currently, Russia and China appear to be Extricating themselves from the Western Plutarchy’s Grip.

    The Western-Plutarchy appear to be the ones contemplating Mass Population Reduction. Unfortunately, their Psychopathic Endeavors deployed in their Societies and imposed upon others will most likely render miserable venues of achieving them. Wars, Economic Collapse, Starvation, Pestilence/Plandemics will continue.

    The Western-Plutarchy “Elites” of this World aren’t the “Higher-IQ Types” which were busy “Cleaning Up” after Civil Disasters made by the Moron Overpopulation in Kornbluth’s Future World: They’re just Wealthy – not Intelligent, Wise, Moral, nor Ethical; and they’ve installed “Hired Puppets” in Govt and Commerce throughout their Realm as they groom their Offspring into Influence-Peddling Schemes.

    *****

    IIRC, a Study once published that there are sufficient “Real Estate” on the Earth to support the existing Global Population – by making a “hypothetical simulated rearrangement”: the Global Population would fit in 2/3rds of North America – arranged in a City with a Population Density akin to Houston.

    There are enough “Real Estate” to sustain the Current Population; but even within this Simulation, a Population Growth above 5×(2020 Headcount) would be difficult to sustain.

    *****

    The Population Growth need to be curbed. Preferably WITHOUT the Plutarchy Schemes of Mass Murder.

    One Solution would be to give Every Woman Copper IUDs under Supervision at Puberty (Minding the Virginity – GynoMDs help me – I’m SWAGging this is possible through the Canal or by incisions through the frontal-pelvic). Nation-States then should choose their own policies of their Populations’ Reproductive Management.

    Too Cruel? So Sad, Too Bad. Make a Better Suggestion. At least the Copper IUDs can be replaced, minimally affect Fertile Women’s Hormonal Dynamics, and reduce the Frequencies of Pregnancies.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Alden
  121. According to the World Death Clock, only 56 million die each year and at current population growth, it will double every thirty five years. It’s gets even scarier, most all those born now are blacks, Hispanics and Asians. To put that into prospective, in two hundred years the white Aryan race will become extinct.

    Cue song: Feed the World – Let them know it’s Cremma Time (aka BLMr – Burn Loot Murder and Rape

    https://www.medindia.net/patients/calculators/world-death-clock.asp

  122. @RJ Macready

    Fascinating, you have a few gems buried in the mud there.

  123. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Stephan Hawking: Asshole.

    Albert Einstein: Jew

    Mikhail Gorbachev: Shabbos Goy

    Isaac Asimov: Jew

    Prince Philip: Shabbos Goy

    Bill Maher: Jew

    Bill Gates: Devil. No, I mean it, he’s the Devil.

    Doug Stanhope: Fag

    Ted Turner: Shabbos Goy

    Richard Branson: Hillary Clinton ass-kisser

    Margaret Sanger: Jew

    Paul Erlich: Jew

    Jacques Cousteau: Idiot

    Pentti Linkola: Coward

    Dan Brown: Devil Worshipper

    • Thanks: RedpilledAF
    • Troll: Agent76
    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
  124. @azureamaranthine

    Two classes better then the concise -ness and scope of the article itself.

    Suggestions as to elaborate quantifying, which you must have done in your spare time: “The beautiful ones”, secondly, a huge and long-term experiment with rats and density of population, done by a single individual and more then a generation ago?!

    The subject of population as a factor to anything else is gratifying since it touches upon the “theory of it all”. That’s where the key to the future is hidden. All correlate, bio-engineering, AI, …as you summed up, such a wealth of variables.

    Thanks for your effort.

  125. IronForge says:
    @Yukon Jack

    IMHO,

    The Problem with CO2 Levels are not with the Warming – we have Oceanic Currents in the Arctic and now Antarctic (we didn’t have it Down Under the Last Time CO2 Levels were this High) and Antarctica acting as Thermal Buffers. The Currents Cool and head out along the Ocean Floors.

    The Problem with CO2 Levels are with the Concentration. We’ve been on a Geometrically Increasing Climb. We’re around the Upper-400ppm Ranges now. The Human Body starts having reactions at or around 700ppm – and display Cognitive Issues at 1000ppm.

    That’s for Short-Term Exposure. We have nothing on Long-Term Exposure at Higher Levels.

    Humanity might get Poisoned Far Before All the Surface Glacial Ice Melt Away…

    Worse yet, we need to be in a Carbon-NEGATIVE Situation long enough to allow the Oceans to Expel and/or Oceanic Phytoplankton+Flora to catch up consuming the CO2 previously absorbed – to reduce the increased Acidity.

    I advocate for more Nukes (I’ve been on Nuke Subs) and Orbital Solar for the Long-Term Energy Solutions.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  126. @h74betatester

    You have made a most pressing point. Data are being poisoned intentionally on anything(not just population numbers). This serves “annalystics” and statistics seriousness in appearance, and produces results as manipulable as never before. Our politicians, scientists, activists, media-clowns love this, since it gives a gain of function in the short term to serve their needs.

  127. I have a different view from the author concerning climate change:

    Therefore, let’s assume that humans really are putting a huge strain on the planet’s resources and causing climate change that will inevitably become catastrophic.

    1. Humans are putting a huge strain on the biosphere, not the planet. We can wipe out the biosphere (the thin layer of life on the sphere +/- a mile high to a mile deep) and the planet will do just fine. Like George Carlin correctly observed, the planet is not threatened, we are terminal, not the planet.

    2. Climate Change is a huge elite hoax generated to control us. ‘Climate Change’ is a rebranding of Global Warming when that theory failed. Climate Change still means Global Warming, which is a completely failed theory. Wokipedia is wrong:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change

    When the Earth emits that heat as infrared radiation the gases absorb it, trapping the heat near the Earth’s surface. As the planet heats up it causes changes like the loss of sunlight-reflecting snow cover, amplifying global warming.[4]

    Humans can not change the earth’s thermodynamics. The planet’s temperature is determined by orbital cycles and solar output. The trace gas CO2 has nothing to do with it. It is just completely ludicrous to think a trace gas controls the fricking weather. This is utter arrogance caused by over self importance. You are an ant on the surface of a huge orbital body.

    Yet most people believe this CO2 warming nonsense because of the power of mass media mind control. Bottom line? Most people are branded by media nonsense. What most people believe is junk science when is comes to this issue. Man is not and can not change the climate.

    [MORE]

    3. The real threat is a cooling planet at the end of the interglacial vs. exponetial population growth created during the warm phase of the ice age cycle. Wake up people, we are in an ice age, we never left the ice age. The boogeyman CO2 has no effect on temperature so that means the ice age cycle will continue just as it always has, regardless of the bullshit we believe.


    Ice Age cycles and human evolution. The planet started cooling 50 million years ago. The ice ages started 2.6 million years ago.
    Humans are not going to change 50 million years of cooling, that is the most insane idea ever promoted by that idiot Al Gore who never took even one collegiate science course – or Greta Thunberg who never finished high school. (Note the time scale is logarithmic)

    Holocene temperatures have been steadily falling for 8,000 years.

    A new little ice age could devastate crops and human population.

    What can you expect in little ice ages? Witch burnings and extreme persecution. A new ice age will bring out extreme behavior as humans become crazy with paranoia. What did the Mayans do when crops failed? Mass human sacrifice. Ice age weather WILL CAUSE mass dementia and extreme social behavior like war. Global Warming is an extreme popular delusion caused by media madness in the crowd mentality. Climate change beliefs ARE the madness displayed.

  128. Billy Ash says:
    @Ukraine Tiger

    Ugh the Unz thesis. Hitting China with pig and bird viruses could make sense as economic warfare because pigs and birds don’t fly. People fly all over the world and there would be no way to contain a human virus in China unless it was engineered to only infect Asians. It wasn’t.

  129. @eudion2

    Bezos’s “Trillions” in space would need a Dyson sphere to capture the energy from the sun to power the artificial environments required. Trillion is a ridiculous figure. Bezos, retail clerk turned shadow state functionary, is a ridiculous figure. National Socialist Schwab envisions a colony of cyborg-termites to do the required work in space that whites refuse to do. Schwab’s space bugs will receive their instructions via signals sent from Black Lady Space Command which is operational only six hours per week with the hours distributed in irregular intervals due to the Black Lady need for stress-relief and rest from doing the tiring work that whites refuse to do.

    • Agree: Towey
    • LOL: CelestiaQuesta
  130. @Anonymous

    Every man is a sinner, every saint has a sinning past, and every sinner has a future : OK. But every person is not a criminal. A criminal and a sinner are two different things : for the criminal doing evil is not something he regrets or does regrettably to survive or to win without being able to help it for want of force of character or intelligence to conceive another fairer game that might be worth winning. The criminal considers his evil doing as the manifestation of his own particular kind of virtue that sets him above humanity, among the elect. Two religions that are in perfect accordance with that kind of virtue are Kabbalistic Judaism and Calvinism, and that are meant to promote that kind of criminal personality. Criminals are for the most part born, not made, and never repent from their evil ways unless the discover more evil ones still. If you pay enough attention to what Jesus said he never implied that chaff could one day evolve into wheat : all he could do was to put back into growth sickly, unproductive wheat that risked leading a life not very different from mere chaff. But chaff is chaff and wheat is wheat, the species don’t cross-breed, and never evolve one into the other : the arguments of Darwinism and Lamarckism have no weight in that matter. The PTB as you call them are born from Hell and return to Hell as they die. The problem is that the criminals are the great majority actually, but that the great many of them are dormant : the don’t commit much crime but for lack of capacity to commit it they obey the elite as their robots.

    The day you wake them up to their own nature and the reality of game they have to play to win or survive they all turn like elites and the problem of very poor countries such as Haiti is that absolutely everybody thinks like an full-patched member of the criminal elite in charge : they are all woke and awake. Everybody dreams to be either the president of Haiti either the CEO of one of the American or French corporations ravaging the country (actually using it as a human laboratory). And contrary to what you might think a far less negligible number of those negroes and mulattoes than you imagine (there are White Haitian nationalists too, and they are more anti-White than everybody) do have and train their capacities to be a shrew dictator of international class or a secret service director, as they are among the chief clients of Chevron strategy games and winner of competitions.

  131. @Rev. Spooner

    “the reproductive rate for the human race is plummeting”

    In our spiraling ever downward Western world white women are having puppies instead of babies. This could be some sort of natural order at work which, in my view, explains the dropping testosterone levels in young men who are currently maxxing out their credit cards on feminine apparel. The magnetism between the x and y chromosomes just doesn’t seem to be there anymore. This is where the crafty canine enters the picture. His fine-tuned animal senses picks up on what’s what as he strolls past the wilting-penised young white man and into the arms of a young white woman wh0 will age into a crazy dog lady. If we had a Dr. Fauci who did not dabble in diabolatry he would be funding gain-of-function research on a virus that only kills dogs.

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  132. Now that we know how a globalist crime cartel racket got us here in the first place, with billions of third worlders heading unchallenged towards our shores and border to replace us, with big tech censorship monopolies, rouge big Pharma Vax mandates, tyrannical war mongering anti white government, black militarization of white cities, GlobalHomo gender mutants, Zio banking monopolies, and a predatory global MIC all hellbent on the destruction of the white human race, why do they keep beating around the bush with depopulation remedies that fail?

    It would seem logical that thousands of nukes aimed at every major city will solve that in an instant. This plandemic was nothing more than a lockdown test drill for when real shit hits the fan, and it’s coming faster than a speeding poleez car on a donut run.

    It was a clear beautiful day In Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and it will be a clear and beautiful day when they hit your town.

  133. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    ” The theory like the theory, but it’s the field/practice/application what’s ‘ killing ‘ us ” – a joke we had under commies, in Eastern-Europe. You forgot the most important aspect: ” an informed/intelligent men is unfit to be a slave “. An educated/informed people is hard to be governed/controlled. The so-called ‘ elite ‘ is a bunch of mediocre filthy rich psychopaths/sociopaths, which are served by power thirsty spineless morons, degenerates like Clinton, Bush, Biden, Cheney, Obama and so on. The ‘ public education ‘ was replaced long time ago by public indoctrination. About half of the Americans got the jabs. NOT vaccines, but the new gene therapy. This proves that about half of the Americans are not only ignorant, but obedient sheeple. Orlov, The Saker and others were/are right when they are saying that ‘ at least, back there, under Communism, most of us knew what was really happening. Not here, in US ( and the rest of the West ).’Listen/watch what George ( Carlin ) had to say about, in ‘ The Real Owners of America ‘, and/or ‘ The American Dream ‘. We the risk of on-line lynching, I will say that, what the commies tried hard and didn’t succeed, the Western propaganda apparatus achieved: the perfect idiot/mindless zombie ( like Prof. A.C. Sutton wrote in his books ). ‘ Idiocracy ‘ ( the movie ) is here, now.

  134. Mike Tre says:
    @Yukon Jack

    “Ford builds these because Billy Joe wants one,”

    This is wrong. Billy Joe may buy a 350 because they want to tow their skid steer to work during the week and then tow their fishing boat on the weekends, because Billy Joe is a practical man.

    Ford builds that monstrosity because bored millionaire men, many of whom are pro-athlete negroes, want them.

    • Agree: Sisifo
  135. @RJ Macready

    I enjoy a good science fiction tale detailing human interaction with strange alien species. I enjoyed the documentary on your experience with that bizarre shape-shifting creature you and your compatriots dug out of the Antarctic ice in 1982. But this SF subgenre wherein CIA or military whistleblowers spill the beans on their visits with advanced but benign space brothers is a long-time fraud, stretching back to 1947, when Hitler crashed his foo-fighter in the desert outside of Roswell, NM. Because I am a rather fanciful fellow, I do believe that non-human intelligences have interacted with humans since the time of Nimrod’s genetic engineering program in long-ago Sumer. But they materialize in our sphere of the dimensional time-accordion as spectral phenomenon. The desert-dwellers of the ancient mideast called them Jinn.

  136. @Yukon Jack

    It makes you wonder if those geniuses in weather science and astrophysics take into consideration the Sun/Earth orbit around the Milky Way where specific orbital positions in the galactic plane maybe the force that produces cyclical ice ages and not man made pollutions.

    We are governed by galactic forces not by climate charlatans selling biased books, lectures and documentaries to gullible idiots locked in their safe spaces.
    Ancient pagans had it right, our gods are celestial, not terrestrial.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  137. @TG

    You are correct on the feudalism part. However, depopulation is the eventual goal for sustaining the ptb’s lifestyle’s. They are correct in that current population and standard of living is untenable., however theyre morally bankrupt to declare themselves god and decide the fate of humanity. A lower, mongrelized population lowers the chance of mass revolt and increases conformity. Both are big advantages to the feudalist.

  138. @SunBakedSuburb

    It also doesn’t help having multi generations growing up whacking off to porn instead of finding a young man or lady to breed a family with.
    Now we are overwhelmed with soyboys and GlobalHomo = 2SLGBTQQIAPWXYZ+ – Two Spirit, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Beastiality, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual people, and Pedophiles. + added to cover the overlooked.

    Typical Political Campaign slogan: Vote For Me, I’m Gay.

    Typical Hollywood movie, series, ad or commercial staring: Magik Negro and homosexual/lesbians.

    Typical large city mayor or governor: Lesbian bwitch

  139. @nsa

    Yes, overarching cosmic processes such as the 2nd Law of thermodynamics, do figure in what our history must be. Nihilism, which has haunted the modern world from the outset, is very like the red shift of our expanding universe.

    RE metaverse fantasies:
    In City, a 1952 science fiction novel by American writer Clifford D. Simak, the last humans on Earth live decadent pointless lives in Geneva, the last city in the world, with limitless resources and robots to attend their every whim. The majority population has emigrated to space, as in Bezos’ scenario, to quickly evolve into some non-human form. History had run its course and ended. Later the city is turned into a closed dome of nothingness, where people have entered an induced suspended animation dream-state that will last for eternity.

  140. Geowhizz says:
    @Nick J

    Live in the woods as well. The views you expressed align closely with mine.

  141. @Franklin Ryckaert

    A people with high IQ and indoctrinated via corporate media/idiot box, are way worst than a people with lower IQ, but not under the ‘ spell ‘…Ask anyone born, who lived under a totalitarian regime.

    • Agree: InnerCynic
  142. @RJ Macready

    You can read it right now: http://thenewearth.org/AI_FREE_READERS-EDITION.pdf

    Why this book is important IMO. It changes your world view completely.

    Why are humans are in a permanent crisis is answered: earth is a prison planet for unwanted souls. That explains much, like why so many humans are trying to go to heaven or reincarnate elsewhere. Many years ago I did a short stint as a carpenter for the Hare Krishna temple in Columbus Ohio. I was introduced to their beliefs, and one is that they chant a million times so they don’t have to reincarnate back to earth. They told me they want to go to a better planet. That implies earth is a bad planet. Then when I read Alien Interview it all made sense, earth is a prison planet, souls are trapped here, that is why you reincarnate here all of the time, infinite loops. The souls here are not from earth, they want to go home to their home planet. We are ET that wants to go home.

    And get this, the worst of the worst souls from around the galaxy have been dumped on earth – along with peace loving hippies, artists, free thinkers, musicians, and revolutionaries who opposed their planet being overrun by galactic empire. So IMO that explains the utter fascination with the movie series ‘Star Wars’. It also explains why President Eisenhower signed a treaty with the Greys at Holloman AFB – and why they don’t contact us normal people. We are prisoners and nobody up in heavens wants anything to do with us.

    1954 Greada Treaty – President Eisenhower form a treaty with aliens at Holloman AFB

    1954 Greada Treaty – President Eisenhower form a treaty with aliens at Holloman AFB
    On the 1954 Greada Treaty, the Eisenhower administration bypasses the US Constitution and form a pact with alien races.

    In exchange for advanced technology, the aliens would be allowed to make experiments on life stocks, minerals and a small group of humans.

  143. Emslander says:

    The establishment’s response to the pandemic proved to be a complete fiasco, which highlighted a level of systemic incompetency that no amount of damage control by the Department of Propaganda could possibly repair.

    If there were any objective observers of our moronic leadership left in the world of the “free press”, the public narrative for the past twenty months would be universally condemnatory. Our government epidemiological experts have failed miserably to prevent sickness with their phony vaccines and have driven the intelligent of us who chose natural immunity into the catacombs. They prohibited early treatments that might have made the illnesses we did get less severe and they issued rules of normal activity that may have ruined the American way of living forever.

    Since we apparently have the largest number of flu deaths as measured against population on the planet during these past two years, the vaunted response of the USA has been an unmitigated disaster.

    If we’re going to be culling the population for the good of future generations, let’s start with the digital lords, the great intellectuals of the media and the elected politicians.

    • Replies: @Geowhizz
  144. @Zorost

    Yes, the so-called Covid vaccine has a high rate of female menstruation problems, auto abortion (miscarriage) and infertility. This proves the real purpose – population control. And those vaxxed have high rates of getting the virus – proving that the vaxx does not solve the Covid problem.

    400,000 Vaxx Abortions: Military Data Confirms 300% Increase
    https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20220211/14322810/400-000-Vaxx-Abortions-Military-Data-Confirms-300.htm

  145. I’m not interested in “conspiracy theories” but in the facts of conspiracy.

    • Replies: @Peter Rabbit
  146. That means 0.08% of the planet’s population died from COVID over a two-year period. Yet, during that same time period, 280 million people were born.

    The problem with the Covid depopulation tactic is that it has not killed anywhere near enough people to even slow the exponential increasing population curve:

    https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

    Total fertility rate
    (births per woman)

    Niger is the top country by fertility rate in the world. As of 2020, fertility rate in Niger was 6.7 births per woman. The top 5 countries also includes Somalia, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Mali, and Chad.

    Find Europe and look south to Africa. Now what do you think realistically is going to happen in the next 100 years? Africa is going to breed and breed and breed, and hundreds of millions are going north to find jobs. Europe is as good as gone.

    • Replies: @Reality Reporter
    , @Alden
  147. Mr. Anon says:
    @RJ Macready

    But then the most important reason is that I am selfish. Plain and simple. Having a child means giving up my playstation. Having a child means worrying and pondering over another human being forever, not to mention the extra cost in finances and sanity. Nope. I’d rather live for me.

    Make money and buy a boat. Cherish the years and revel in the technological marvels(I love VR), hope that something massive happens in the astronomy sphere(first contact would be awesome), sleep with hookers (most women today are hookers), do cocaine and depart this realm. Who gives a shit what happens after me?

    You won’t be remembered by anybody. Which is good. You don’t deserve to be. I’ve known dogs who have made greater lasting contributions to human civilization than you have. People like you deserve oblivion.

    • Agree: Sepp
    • Thanks: Emslander
    • Troll: RoatanBill, RJ Macready
    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  148. SafeNow says:

    China will do something about this. It will happen when overpopulation in Africa and the subcontinent has consequences that severely impact China. China will do whatever it takes.,

    • Replies: @Reality Reporter
  149. Mac_ says:

    – bit of debate on article parts, ‘earth’s ecosystem will be in recovery and become a nature reserve that the elites from space use as a vacation resort’
    The premise is mistake same as believing the old agenda twenty one psyop they used over years to distract, as if there would be some green left, which can be seen as obviously false now with the amount of mass destruction done. You cannot ‘repair’ billions of years of evolutionary luck, already destroyed, and more being destroyed now. Many yet look at false tv false ‘nature shows’ or false web pages that don’t show the total of destruction, though is in our face in continued concrete dumping and ‘more roads’ and ‘building’ and contamination of food and water and monopoly of food, and, obviously the false front activist groups never stopped anything. People have to stop the juvenile ignorance. The natural world is being replaced with ‘virtual’ psycho ‘tech’, to strip self-determination. The other distraction of ‘space’, there’s no space anything nothing has ever passed the van allen belts. The only thing being launched is more vile and death. It’s what they live for, and they don’t care if they die or not. People are not considering the psychopath part of this, and false wars, many smiling psychopaths everywhere. Have to separate the cons and tv from what we seeing our faces, and point out the obvious reality to and share info with others around us.

    Last thought have been noticing, the false image in ‘grocery stores’. Remember a lot of psych planning goes into how ‘stores’ are laid out, to make seem as if farm-y with vegetables etc in front, when forty percent of food comes from other territories now, as population massively increased here, and ninety percent of supposed foods are put out by cons in the gang, regardless of different looking labels. The term -false abundance was written by someone some time back, can’t remember who, but is a critical thing to think about when going to any store now.

    .

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  150. Whilst I think this is one of the best posts on here in ages, since Mike Whitney and Linh Dinh (what have you done with him – he is still writing in Namibia) Maybe Ron or Linh are sulking at each other again??…

    I do know and understand a little about computer games, and virtual reality. yes, I have done 360 and 3D too, but even now at the age of 68, you simply can’t beat the real thing.

    Stick a plastic brick on your head and have a 3D 360 [email protected] all encompussed with the best headphone sound effects, but your wife is going to think you are a complete [email protected] when she walks in (not been caught yet)

    [MORE]

    I kind of did virtual machines, and virtual addressing at ICL in West Gorton in 1972, and then after getting fired tried it again “Second Life is an online multimedia platform that allows people to create an avatar for themselves and have a second life in an online virtual world. Developed and owned by the San Francisco-based firm Linden Lab and launched on June 23, 2003”

    I think it was called Second Life – and I had only just logged on to it, and immediately met all these virtual friends, in this virtual life. I had been doing it for maybe a couple of hours, and my wife, kicked me back into shape, and said, “I have just had my bath. Its your turn to get ready, and go ” down the pub..to see a band….So I had a bath and tarted myself up back in this real world..Normal behaviour in our house for the last 40 years…and hopefully into the future – things are picking up. Loads od good live bands on, and no one wears maks in pubs, and we are allowed to sing and dance.

    Over populated??

    Yes Over Populated By Very Rich WEF morons.

    I am very much in favour in sending them all into outer space, such that they don’t come back.

    We have been to both India and Africa, many times.

    We have travelled for hundreds of miles, and hardly seen anyone.

    It seems to me, most people have moved to SE England.

    We are one of the most densely populated places in the world, but I can still get around The M25, if I start before 6:00 am, or after 10:00 am, and the busses, trains and tubes run on time. most of the time, and its free for us cos we are over 60.

    It will get a lot better, once we have brought these war criminals to Trial.

    We know, who they are.

    Tony

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  151. mkr says:
    @John Q Duped

    All I said was that there are people who believe things like all those things I mentioned, and they are on both sides of all those things I mentioned, perpetrator and victim.

  152. Grant says:

    the resources (real ones, like energy and minerals and manufacturing etc) needed to establish a colony in space is greater than the Earth can provide, without killing it. so I don’t get it.

  153. loren says:
    @Simon Tugmutton

    affect was better, its effect.

    affect is about emotions.

  154. To make an argument in a court of law, motive usually needs to be established. Motive is defined as, “the cause that moves people to induce a certain action.” If the earth is in an existential crisis, is there motive to institute population control measures?

    ‘Saving the earth’ is just the cover story to conceal their real motive. The powers that (shouldn’t) be are Jewish and their hatred of goyim is clearly stated by their Rabbis and in their Talmud: “The best of gentiles should be killed just as the best of snakes should have their heads crushed.”

    • Replies: @loren
  155. @Ulrich von Kafkanien

    What percentage of cyanide in a glass of water is needed to have an effect? You’re a Dunning-Krugerite, did you know?

  156. @Brad Anbro

    Quite true. I was inadvertently thinking of John Jay, first US Chief Justice who opined that ‘..the people who own this country are going to run this country’.

  157. loren says:
    @Maowasayali

    can someone put those quotes here so we can copy paste?

  158. @mkr

    Climate change is not ‘ideology’-it is science and fact, but I doubt that a religious lunatic like you can ever appreciate that.

    • Replies: @Brad Anbro
    , @mkr
    , @mkr
  159. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @PetrOldSack

    Who are you and why are you scrubbing your writing?

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  160. @Yukon Jack

    From what I have read and experienced, earth is a heavenly garden paradise that’s been occupied and ruled by a stranded alien species that breed with humans to multiply, turning earth by accident into a human harvest wasteland waiting for the return of our overlords, the Anunaki to repair the damage.

  161. @Yukon Jack

    So is America, thanks to the promotion of negros on television negros are breeding a significant number of non-black women. By 2100 don’t be surprised if half the country is black. Last hope for the “white” race might be South America but then again they’re not really white. Russia will most likely also be invaded by niggers and their mullato spawn searching for white women to breed when they finish conquering Western Europe. Plus Russia’s fertility is also too low, don’t be surprised if the next russian ruler is a Jewish tool who starts importing niggers to “save” the economy.

    Imagine that, the white man being conquered by the most inferior/stupid of all the races. Yes it’s true that it’s a the Jews who are the ones allowing but it’s their black tool that is doing it. And blacks might be stupid, as in have a low working memory but they can at least recognize what’s going on and are enjoying every second of it. After all they have to put in work too, making use of the Jewish tools to migrate from Africa to Sweden, Norway or Ukraine for white women takes at least some planning from the black man. They’re stupid as in not capable of producing or inventing anything but smart enough to support movements that benefit them.

  162. @Desert Fox

    Agree.

    But Bill Gates is Jewish… he’ll probably get a Nobel Prize before he is held to account, if ever.

  163. @mulga mumblebrain

    “M-M” – I do not doubt your sincerity but I think that this whole “climate change” thing is nothing but a scam to control people and as another way of stealing their money. Way back when I was in school, I was at the library and picked up some weekly news magazine. I do not remember the name of the magazine and that does not matter. What matters is that on the cover of the magazine, they had an illustration of the earth, half covered in ICE and the caption to the picture was “Ice Age Coming!”

    Well, it was global cooling then and it is global warming now. If there really is anything to this “climate change” thing, the corporations and the rich bastards can pay for it themselves, as obviously they are paying next to nothing these days!

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Maowasayali
  164. @Farquad

    Anarchyst is correct about abiotic oil and you are correct about the economics of oil and gas extraction. You are also correct about the replenishment not happening anywhere near fast enough to make a difference.

    You are seriously incorrect believing there is a significant limit to energy. The only limit lies in the stupidity of nations not turning to nuclear. The entire Nord Stream II issue arises only because the German gov’t is staffed with morons that purposely shut down their working nuclear reactors to leave them with an energy deficit that has to be made up with a fossil fuel.

    Nuclear is the only technology available today to supply near unlimited energy if the correct technology is used. The Chinese are building Thorium reactors with an eye towards mass utilization but the rest of the world is basically doing near nothing and even hampering development as is the case in the US. India has a Thorium program because they have the largest deposits in the world, but their design is a Rube Goldberg machine.

    The latest generation of fission designs are near bullet proof from the safety perspective and Thorium fuel is essentially free because it’s a waste byproduct of traditional mining and 3 times as plentiful as Uranium in the earth’s crust with near 100% utilization as compared with 0.7% for Uranium before it is considered nuclear waste. The US has an estimated 100 years worth of thorium buried in barrels and shipping containers in the Nevada desert to supply the country’s entire energy needs.

    There is simply no will to make energy abundant and cheap.

    • Replies: @Farquad
  165. map says:
    @follyofwar

    “If the choices were between radical depopulation and the end of life on earth, which one would you choose?”

    The choice is simple. The choice is to let the other guy die for the environment, just the like the choice is to let the other guy die for his nation, his democracy, or his communism. You get the same reduction in the carbon footprint by shooting every progressive and using them as fuel in coal-fired plants or as fertilizer for the fields.

    As always, the concern is not about population growth but about competing bloodlines. The elite wants to get rid of every bloodline that poses a potential competitive threat to themselves. This is why they introduced nonsense like climate change, homosexuality, feminism, women’s rights, and an assortment of paraphilias: which bloodlines will take up these practices and eventually off themselves. So, too, is the practice of taking vaccines simply an attack on gullible and stupid bloodlines.

    To an elite, men are always a threat because men are the source of revolution. Men are neutralized by neutralizing women. This is why so much propaganda is aimed at women, especially about empowerment. In reality, women are never empowered. All they’ve done is take power away from the men of their own tribe and handed it over to the elite of other tribes. Now that their men have been sufficiently disempowered, the elite can dispense with female empowerment. This is why they are putting trannies in girls’ lockers, bathrooms, and sports teams.

  166. @IronForge

    Sounds like you want to force a medical procedure on women.

    To be fair, I think we should cut your balls off.

    • Replies: @Cris M.
    , @IronForge
  167. Rico says:

    Space emigration is a non-starter
    Why send you to space, at an astronomical cost, when a vakseen or a bullet would suffice?
    I agree with everything else

  168. @SafeNow

    Have you looked at TikTok moron? All they do is promote dindus to western women while banning them on China. China will not save you, they win if the rest of the world becomes niggers and mullatos who can’t compete with them. They will use them as customers for their technology. The only thing they will do against them is stop a significant number of dindus from going into their country. But you know, since the entire world will be black in 100 years, they will allow some foreign negros in as representatives of America, England, Norway, France, Germany, etc.

    • Agree: Alden
  169. @IronForge

    The atmosphere is mostly nitrogen which won’t support human breathing. Only oxygen is needed for a person to breathe. Your CO2 concentration of 700 ppm is made up rubbish. It is the lack of oxygen along with the commensurate increase in CO2 that causes problems. As long as there’s enough oxygen, you can mix in Helium and other gases used in diving and people breathe those mixed gasses just fine.

    With your orbital solar reference, I’m going to guess you’re non STEM.

    • Agree: Marcion
    • Replies: @IronForge
  170. @Yukon Jack

    If Eisenhower signed a treaty with alien beings from another galaxy in 1954 bypassing Congress, then that treaty is not valid. Tell them they have been fooled and swindled. What did Eisenhower get out of it?

  171. Alden says:
    @TG

    The rich and middle class have been feeding and medicating Africa India S America Asia the Middle East since the late 1940s. Coincidentally when the Rockefeller’s got their favorite project going, the United Nations.

    The rich want over population for these reasons.

    1 Oversupply of desperate workers.
    2 Oversupply of welfare recipients who vote for the anti White radicals.
    3 Oversupply of consumers to buy their products.
    4 Oversupply of immigrants to make those who own real estate rich. Section 8 and welfare, 20 Chinese restaurant slaves in a one bedroom apartment. Wherever the rent comes from, the mortgage taxes and maintenance are paid for. With enough left over to support the landlord.

    If the rich wanted to reduce the population of the earth they would. Simple logic

    TPTB feed and medicate the worthless populations of the world.

    This causes the population to increase.

    Therefore TPTB are responsible for over population

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  172. @Yukon Jack

    An excellent summation!

    People should seriously consider examining earth’s history and then compare it to the half baked models and theories the folks pushing the CO2 hoax cobbled together. Who/what are you going to believe, millions of years worth of various cycles or some guy whose income depends on the con that’s been wrong now for decades?

    I suggest the following playlist:

  173. @Yukon Jack

    You can read it right now: http://thenewearth.org/AI_FREE_READERS-EDITION.pdf
    Why this book is important IMO. It changes your world view completely.

    Thak you for the reference. It looks quite interesting.

    Then when I read Alien Interview it all made sense, earth is a prison planet, souls are trapped here, that is why you reincarnate here all of the time, infinite loops. The souls here are not from earth, they want to go home to their home planet. We are ET that wants to go home.

    We are prisoners and nobody up in heavens wants anything to do with us.

    The narrative is somehow similar to what religions told us. With some slight (but important) differences:
    – Earth would be a necessary phase to overcome and heal an evolutionary “bug”. Through this earthly life we are supposed to learn and develop some aspects necessary to go further in the global evolution path.
    – Until we learn and develop those things, we are doomed to recirculate here. In that aspect we are in a prison (see for example the buddhist endless cycle of existences).
    – But we have not been forced to be here. This was somehow choosen by us. Also, it’s not that we had better choices, the alternative was to be entrapped in some kind of stagnated level forever.
    – Yes, we had a “home” before. But we were like little children there. When we were faced with the prospect of growing up and eventually become fully empowered adults, we accepted the challenge but we had to leave home and go learn how to live the hard way. Now, because we choose this path of growing, we can only return home when fully grown.

    One last thing, some say this return home is not guaranteed. We may stay entrapped elsewhere forever (the Hell stories…). Others say this return home will happen forcefully, but it may take a loooong time.

    • Replies: @Yukon Jack
    , @lydia
  174. Alden says:
    @IronForge

    You are so unfamiliar with women and sex and human anatomy you don’t even know how IUDs get where they are supposed to go. And they are made of plastic. I suppose they could be made of copper.

    Another MAN OF UNZ completely ignorant of women, sex with women and human anatomy displaying his ignorance. Or are you confusing IUDs with tubal ligation and other forms of birth control.

    • Replies: @IronForge
  175. Alden says:
    @Yukon Jack

    Correction not going north to find jobs. Going north to find welfare.

    • Agree: Yukon Jack
  176. Farquad says:
    @RoatanBill

    The absolute stupidity of implementing a technology like fission without ever having developed a way to deal with the waste is staggering. This nation alone has over 85,000 metric tons of spent nuclear fuel, which will remain incredibly toxic to human life for 10’s of thousands of years after we’re forgotten. It sits in pools and casks, most of it on site at the NPP where it was created – a look at a map will show those are located all throughout the regions that were the most productive farmland in the US (prior to fossil fuel fertilized factory farming – now failing). During our nation’s most prosperous times we never found the resources to deal with it – now it will sit on those sites until the banal forces of weathering release it, to poison all those lands.

    What a great plan.

    On top of it all we can’t afford those too-cheap-to-meter sources, and you can keep your thorium and fusion pipe dreams. You’re just hand waving that crap which will never be economically viable.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  177. Articles like this are a good intelligence test – if you find this article credible, you’re likely incurably dumb.

    Just to highlight one piece that particularly amused me – the elevation of notorious recluse/outcast Linkola to role of sinister member of ‘the elite’. LOL!

    • Agree: Alden
  178. @Yukon Jack

    Couldn’t agree more; there are way too many morons.

    As you point out, once the die off is finished, the population will consist of brighter and more reasonable people. When I grew up, my hometown population was 70k—– now it’s 1.5m, most of whom, if I still lived there, I would avoid like the plague.

    I certainly don’t embrace the globalist agenda, but they are correct with respect to the population problem.

    • Agree: Yukon Jack
  179. Cris M. says:
    @RoatanBill

    Forced sterilizing should have been done to anyone who spawned on ‘welfare’, and castrating done to child rapists. Ask who controls supposed courts and govmt so child rapists aren’t castrated, or dead, same for females that spawned bad seed and let it become a terrorist. For those who haven’t figured it out yet the claim of ‘don’t blame the breeders for what the spawn does’ has been a con, to benefit the cons who have been making this felon world order.
    By forced procedure or knocking off scum, I mean in a real world where we do it ourselves, those who care about being alive and not being preyed on, we should have been living differently, not under false govt or false money, which continuing both is how the slide has been done the last decades, over cliff into quicksand.
    By the way I decided to change the phony ‘new world order’ nonsense, can’t believe people kept repeating that all this time, bogus ‘nicy’ sounding meme made by cons. It’s FWO, felon world order. At least that’s what I’m using now.

    ~

  180. @CelestiaQuesta

    What you’re referring to is the “Galactic Current Sheet”. There is also a “Heliospheric Current Sheet”.

  181. @Mac_

    “ there’s no space anything nothing has ever passed the van allen belts.”

    Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Nothing can stop the will of man.

    How NASA Worked Around Earth’s Radiation Belts to Land Apollo 11 on the moon.

    https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences/apollo-11-van-allen-radiation-belts-translunar-injection/

    • Replies: @Mac_
  182. It’s pretty simple, the higher up on the food chain you are the more you hate humanity.
    Don’t eat bugs, eat the rich!

  183. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    during that same time period, 280 million people were born. This illustrates the mathematical complexity depopulationists are faced with, and perhaps the irrationality of the “conspiracy.”

    Lets see how many get born in the West in the next five years now that the majority of Women have been jabbed.

  184. @nokangaroos

    Traveling throughout the great State of Texas, will wake you up to the fact that overpupulation is not an American phenomenon. Also I did go from Las Vegas to Salt Lake City, and saw nothing but empty space, hundreds of miles of desolate land, with no humans visible. May be other places/countries are not so, but the USA is full of empty and desolate land, where no one lives. And I am grateful for that. Plus when all sodomites die, more empty spaces since they cant have progeny.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  185. @DevilAdvocate

    Yes we can reincarnate many times (assuming that we do have souls and that reincarnation is a real thing). According to those Krishna I referenced, they told me the average human does 250 lives on earth before being ready to move on, but according to Alien Interview you reincarnate forever on earth until earth ends, or you figure out a way to beat the soul traps – electronic force screens that surround earth. And yes I do understand that none of this may be true – I am just reporting what seems to be true based on the evidence we have at hand.

    There are many people who do remember past life, thus that is evidence it is true, but it could be something else, like they are having someone else’s memories. Reincarnation is the primary teaching of Hinduism, which is knowledge of the yogis, and they seem to have figured out long ago what physics is just discovering – that consciousness preceded material realm. David Bohm’s implicit order comes to mind. God may be the sea of consciousness underlying physical creation some say.

    everyone read this book —> The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot

    This reincarnation discussions ties nicely in with depopulation – because if we have eternal souls then does it really matter if we die? According to the Bhagavata Gita, Lord Krishna says it does not matter and councils his favorite warrior Arjuna to kill his evil relatives. So if we have souls what is the big deal if a bunch of fools get offed by the vaxx? It doesn’t matter because they are going to reincarnate again and they were going to die anyways.

    The primary teaching of the Gita is that good men need to kill bad men for life to exist. But the bad men are in charge, because earth is a prison planet, where the worst psychopaths were put and contained. So we are in a pickle, we can’t escape earth because our souls are trapped here, and we can’t kill the bad guys because they have all the power. Thus we are completely screwed.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  186. @Farquad

    I’ll agree that what was done starting many decades ago didn’t include much planning for the waste. One should remember that in those days, smoking cigarettes, insulating with asbestos, mining for coal without regard for the miners lungs, etc were all considered normal. We have learned a few things since then.

    The spent fool ponds are local to the facilities and have caused no significant issues that I’m aware of. The idea was that some day, new technology would solve the waste issue and that day has arrived. You’re lacking some very important information when you aver that nuclear materials will poison us eventually. That’s simply no longer the case if the proper technological solutions are allowed to be implemented. In the US, the law is seriously in the way.

    The Thorium Molten Salt Reactors can consume the old nuclear waste as fuel. Since Thorium is “fertile”, not “fissile”, it needs a kick of neutrons to start a conversion to Uranium. It’s when it becomes Uranium 233 that power is produced. Adding decades old Uranium to the molten salt is therefore adding what’s needed for the reaction anyway. These reactors can also consume plutonium and a host of the other problem elements with a minimum of transuranic waste produced that has a half life of around 500 years. These reactors turn current waste into usable energy.

    The reactor fluid is a high temperature molten salt. This eliminates the water that has flashed to steam to give us Chernobyl and Fukushima. No pressure vessel containment building is required since it operates at near atmospheric pressure. The best reactor designs (SMR – Small Modular Reactor) are those that can be built on an assembly line and transported to be dropped into a suitable waiting structure.

    If you have an interest in this topic, I suggest viewing:

    or

    • Thanks: DevilAdvocate, jsm
    • Replies: @Farquad
  187. Anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    What makes you think Capitalism requires growth?

  188. Herald says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    The people in “low-IQ” sub saharan Africa can be dealt with in any number of ways, say war, designer disease, planned displacement, deliberate climate change, or maybe just gas the lot of them. Hardly anyone will be left in the First World to complain about it and if someone was stupid enough to do so, then they would be permanently silenced.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  189. Anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @RoatanBill

    the really stupid in 1st world countries

    are being replaced by immigrants?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  190. Alden says:
    @Brad Anbro

    I remember those magazine covers about 1978-82. There was a book The Coming Ice Age. And the never to be forgotten cover of a major weekly news magazine. It was a giant glacier looming over NYC.

    Several years later it was global warming. The entire earth would dry up and we’d all diiiieeee.
    Unless of course we did exactly as TPTB ordered.

    40 years later we still have blizzards right very winter floods. I tend not to believe anything experts claim.

  191. @Cris M.

    There’s a man involved with the production of a child. Instead of using force on the woman that needs to raise the child for many years (her partial punishment) leaving the man free to inseminate others and involves a medical procedure, why not make the man responsible for all the bills till the child is an adult. If that man is a lazy slob as is the case in many instances, go after him by forcing him to work off his debt to the society by digging ditches, whatever, at hard labor. If he has a job, the woman and child get first dibs on his salary. This would send the necessary signal to the promiscuous male population that a few minutes of fun can turn into a life time of misery.

    The current laws are not being enforced sufficiently to deter this activity.

    The woman also needs to be dissuaded from more procreation, but that should be done in a manner that does not use a Nazi tactic. Hard labor is something most women avoid and might be used as a threat that another child will land her at hard labor for X years.

    A rapist is a predator. All predators should be killed on their first offense.

  192. @Anon

    I have no idea what you’re driving at.

    • Replies: @Anon
  193. Mac_ says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    There is plenty that can stop the will of man, depending on the man, and what the man has ignored while other men were doing ‘space’ cons and things such as false wars to take over the planet.

    I would agree that if enough people, men, had enough will and effort, that it could make a difference to oppose the agendas other men/people, though given the times the premise is shrinking, fast.

  194. @Yukon Jack

    There are many people who do remember past life, thus that is evidence it is true, but it could be something else, like they are having someone else’s memories.

    Most often than not, they’re fake. The sole cases deserving some credit (imho) are the tulkus (=reincarnated tibetan lamas who are recognised and pass through a serie of tests for attesting their previous incarnation). But they are already at a supra-human level, so that doesn’t apply to the common of mortals.

    [MORE]

    This reincarnation discussions ties nicely in with depopulation – because if we have eternal souls then does it really matter if we die?

    Yes, it doesn’t matter. And this is a warning to those who see death as a kind of liberation from the pangs of life.
    In terms of depopulation, the spiritual cycles of going and coming back may not synchronise at all with the rise and decline of physical populations. We may well see periods where people may disappear from earth for some time.

    But, from another perspective, every human life is very precious because it’s an opportunity to make that evolution leap which ultimately will free us from this prison and allows to come back home. Denying or cutting this opportunity is a crime.

    The primary teaching of the Gita is that good men need to kill bad men for life to exist. But the bad men are in charge, because earth is a prison planet, where the worst psychopaths were put and contained. So we are in a pickle, we can’t escape earth because our souls are trapped here, and we can’t kill the bad guys because they have all the power. Thus we are completely screwed.

    Not really.
    Because IMHO that story alludes more to our internal side, than to the outside realm of physical and historical events.
    The good men and bad men are rather our personal good qualities and bad qualities. In order for us to evolve, the main task is to make our good men multiply and kill all the bad men, not outside there but inside each of us.
    Life, in the same sense, it’s not the ordinary life, which is more akin to death (=an endless prison in a limited existence), it’s rather the real Life, the life we all could enjoy when liberated from this prison and get back to our real Home.

  195. Farquad says:
    @RoatanBill

    Unfortunately your comment here condenses down to “it hasn’t been a problem yet, and they’ll think of something”. Hope is not a plan. The toxicity and the time scales involved may be outside of what you are considering.

    Some exciting catastrophe at a npp that releases the stuff locally is not required. On the time scale for which this waste will remain dangerous, simple weathering, erosion and decay will have exactly the same effect – maybe it won’t happen to you or me, but to our great grandchildren, but that is equivalent. Moving the stuff somewhere would have been the best choice – some place will get wasted by it, but not the places most people need to live. Still, the costs are outrageous, and we’re not going to be able to do it now since we’re collapsing. “Proper technological solutions” are not being implemented, nor are there any real programs to do so. There are zero signs that they ever will be.

    As for the new reactor designs – how’s it going getting funding for that? Economic viability matters.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  196. @Cris M.

    “ don’t blame the breeders for what the spawn does’ has been a con, to benefit the cons”

    Absolutely, parents work so their children benefit, not to benefit to other people’s spawn. But that’s racist according to liberals now since black parents don’t like working and therefore their kids don’t have “privilege”

  197. Anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @RoatanBill

    You wrote:

    Maybe the jab was meant to get rid of the really stupid in 1st world countries that rushed to be first in line to be injected with some untested sewage. That would leave the smarter 1st world population with more lebensraum.

    Aren’t the really stupid being replaced by immigrants, i.e. no more lebensraum, just share it with different peoples?

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  198. Mike Tre says:
    @Herald

    The easiest and most practical way to end the population boom in SSA is to stop sending them free food and medical supplies. It will be the most catastrophic mass starvation event in history, but nature will correct.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Thanks: Marcion
  199. @Farquad

    I see you’re determined to not get educated on this issue but I’ll leave you with the following.

    China is building 2 thorium reactors. A US outfit has contracted to build one in Indonesia because US law prevents them from doing much of anything in the US. The tech that was pioneered by the US decades ago and then shelved is being brought back because it solves the most pressing issues with nuclear power.

    I assume you think you have another energy source that can power 1st world economies going forward. As an engineer, I know green tech won’t do it and there is no alternative to nuclear.

    • Replies: @Farquad
    , @PetrOldSack
  200. @Brad Anbro

    In Search Of The Coming Ice Age … with Leonard Nimoy (1978).

    • Replies: @Yukon Jack
  201. Weave says:
    @RoatanBill

    I’ve always loved your comments, but this is frame-worthy.

    • Thanks: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  202. @Anon

    Immigrants includes both legal and illegal individuals. The legal ones are the ones more likely to have an education and are coming in via a specific visa. The illegals are another matter.

    I don’t know what the breakdown is for which group got and which didn’t get the jab. On the whole, I believe the majority of adults resident in the country got the jab and that would include citizens, legal and illegal immigrants.

  203. @Anon

    Bill Maher is Catholic. Look it up.

  204. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    But Negroes are not taking the vax.

  205. @Mike Tre

    Not gonna happen, the elites would already be predicting famine as predictive programming. Instead they are predicting millions of Africans migrating to Europe as predictive programming.

    Don’t get me wrong, I hate niggers as much as anyone but I can recognize that they are conquering Europe and North America and that their conquest will only grow exponentially. White men are terrified of having a child and thereby becoming financially obligated to a white woman who will divorce them and make their life miserable. On the other hand, black men seek nothing less than to impregnate a white woman even if she’s fat and ugly to get back to the white man(also because black women are hideous), he knows the welfare state will take care of his spawn anyways. The future will be China ruling over a black and mullato world, maybe also with a significant number of Indians in the mix.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  206. @Mr. Anon

    Says the guy who watches cooking shows with his wife🙄. How much did you buy this wife for? Is she a sexual abuse victim because that’s the only kind of female that might go anywhere near you.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  207. @Weave

    Agreed. One of my favorite posters on here roatanbill

  208. lydia says:
    @DevilAdvocate

    https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/so-who-do-you-think-is-at-the-top-of-the-spiderweb.41411/page-2

    Illuminati power structure is Lucifer at top, unknown demons and entities beneath, then Illuminati – most likely heads of top international banking families, media corps, royalty, club of rome etc – then beneath that the 33 degrees of Freemasonry.

    The Illuminati gets its name from Lucifer “the light bearer”, they are doing his bidding on earth.

    They are all united by a hatred and wish to subvert, corrupt and destroy Christianity.

    This is because only Christ can set humanity free from their spiritual corruption and malign influence.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  209. lydia says:

    https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/so-who-do-you-think-is-at-the-top-of-the-spiderweb.41411/page-2

    Illuminati power structure is Lucifer at top, unknown demons and entities beneath, then Illuminati – most likely heads of top international banking families, media corps, royalty, club of rome etc – then beneath that the 33 degrees of Freemasonry.

    The Illuminati gets its name from Lucifer “the light bearer”, they are doing his bidding on earth.

    They are all united by a hatred and wish to subvert, corrupt and destroy Christianity.

    This is because only Christ can set humanity free from their spiritual corruption and malign influence.
    ————–
    That’s a very interesting website! Thanks for sharing. Just reading: https://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/history/mystical-body-satan/

  210. Mr. Anon says:
    @RJ Macready

    I didn’t say I watched them.

    Go back to your soma, you failure of a man.

  211. @RJ Macready

    Good post, specially the part about most women being some sort of prostitute. And back in the 20th century the future of the world wasn’t as obvious as now, now it is pretty clean it’s going to be a technological hell full of degenerate lgbtq people. And the majority of the population will be literal negros, if you think negro worship is bad now, wait until they’re the majority.

    A few of the things that will happen:
    1. Forced vaccination that will make people live sick and tired most of their life and die early, they will survive on anti depressants, amphetamine drugs, coffee and other stimulants.
    2. The entire western world will be black or mullatto along with Africa, if you raise a daughter good luck keeping her away from the pro-black propaganda
    3. There will be no community, no religion, just degenerates everywhere
    4. The survivors who are not part of the elites will have to work their ass off to keep the tech dystopia going, they might live a relatively good life if they’re smart enough though. Some will be allowed to live as entertainment for the elites though, sex slaves I suppose
    5. All women will be prostitutes unless they are daughters of the elite
    6. You will most likely not be allowed to leave your house or area where you live without permission which will require poisonous vaccinations and the like
    7. No internet freedom, if you hold the wrong opinions, you will be punished, maybe even murdered

    Yeah I can see why not bringing children into this hell makes sense. At the same time, keep in mind that the demographic collapse will mean there will be a huge shortage of intelligent workers, if you can produce an intelligent kid, he might be able to live a decent life working in tech. Just keep in mind he will have to live among negros and sexual degenerates. Plus the culture will influence him, not you, so maybe your own offspring will become a degenerate

    • Replies: @Alden
  212. IronForge says:
    @Alden

    Do your Homework, Retard.

    Copper IUDs. They’re safer for most. Hormone-Releasing Plastic Types don’t have Long Term Results.

    There are several ways to the Uterus – akin to C-Sections and Abortions. Figure you’d read btwn the Lines.

    I’d settle for Vasectomies on Males as well. Vasectomies aren’t highly successful; but Vasectomies+CopperIUDs are Reversible.

    Look at the Population Spike over these past 300 Years – then give us Better Alternatives, Retard.

    • Replies: @Alden
  213. IronForge says:
    @RoatanBill

    I’m open for Vasectomies as well.

    Roatan, do you have another solution for the Spike?

    If not, shut your Boy-gina Pie-Hole

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  214. IronForge says:
    @RoatanBill

    Read and Weep, RoatanTard.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412018312807

    From the above and other sources, CO2 issues actually start at 500ppm, adverse effects noted around 700ppm, with Cognitive Impairment around 1000ppm.

    Your stating it’s rubbish – doesn’t change FACTS, Retard. Look shit up if you’re not the absolute authority, Idiot.

    STEM Major from a STEM Service Academy.

    You’re the DumbAss here, Roatan. The feasibility of Orbital Solar have been presented for DECADES. Even CHN are trying it out, since they’re not pwned by PetroCorps.

    Science Fail. Homework Fail. Rubbish Narrative Fail. How about just shutting the Frack Up on STEM Matters?

  215. gepay says:

    Obviously, the people who believe everybody could continue consuming like we now do, it would be necessary for the world population to be around a billion people (as George Carlin said, it’s a big party but we ain’t in it). It’s kind of easy to think about who those would be – the top 10 %. In the past it would always be, “who we gonna get to do the dirty work when all the slaves are free?” Slavery along with feudalism was outlawed generally so there was wage slavery. Progressive movements and unions over a century or two made possible large middle classes at least in the developed world. Technology had enlarged the pie. Overt colonialism was did away with in the decades after WW2. A better world for all seemed possible. But you know how people are. Leonard Cohen wrote a song, “Everybody knows”. …Everybody knows that the war is over. Everybody knows that the good guys lost. The rich stay rich and the poor get poorer. That’s how it goes. Everybody knows… Technology advances and productivity increased but the wealth wasn’t shared. Debt slavery was increased. Now those people at the top started talking about useless eaters. Artificial intelligence and robotics have advanced so that, hey, we don’t need piles of people to do the dirty work. Algorithms can replace many credentialed jobs. Soon trucks will drive themselves. What was it Bill Gates said about how we need to vaccinate the whole world population. It would be really hard to get 6 billion people to hold their children’s hands and line up along big pits even when we had robots to kill them. But if you could get everybody to line up to get a vaccine…

  216. @Ann Nonny Mouse

    I believe Bill Gates was fertilized in eugenics and so it will always be a part of his dna, but if given a choice between door #1 being one hundred deaths, door #2 being 100,ooo deaths, and door #3 being two bits, as the sweat fell from his brow and his finger pointed to door #2, he would have an unyielding compulsion to scream bloody murder door #3!

  217. @Montefrío

    Surely you don’t have a problem with simple FACTS do you? Have you any idea how rapidly life in the oceans is being decimated by repeated oceanic heat-waves?

  218. @IronForge

    Those CO2 levels are reached inside poorly ventilated buildings already, and, one might presume, behind surgical masks worn all day, particularly among children.

  219. mkr says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I didn’t say “climate change”, I said “man-made climate change”.

    I have religious beliefs, simple ones, such as there is a God (supernatural being), there is an agreeable afterlife (for all people), and God is neutral to good and rejects evil. I do not worship any God nor will I. That is the extent of my religious beliefs. I reject most of the Bible as being filled with errors and contradictions, hypocrisy, failed assertions of truth, and a complete distortion of actual reality and the nature of the Universe.

    The climate has changed drastically throughout the history of the world, even before human beings were present on Earth.

    In the 1970s they called it “global cooling” or a “new ice age”. Then within the last 30 years of so they called it “global warming”. Now they call it “climate change”. They went from “ice” to “warming”. There is a long list of climate “scientists” failed predictions that never materialized over time.

    One of the most insidious things about the “man-made climate change” cult is that all of their solutions require socialism or communism to “fix”. It’s a joke. Commies latched onto the ideology and then use it to further their commie goals. YOU EXHALING IS POLLUTION according to the cult. You are pollution. How convenient it is for the out-in-the-open depopulationists to simultaneously be man-made climate change proponents. They’ve been wanting depopulation since long before science even proposed such a thing as man-made climate change. Science is funny. If I have 2 apples in one hand and 2 apples in the other, how many apples do I have in total? The answer is 4. 100 out of 100 scientists will agree. “Man-made climate change” is a belief, the science has not proven that mankinds activities have any significant effect on the climate when compared to natures effects on the climate.

    The solution to “man-made climate change” is to change the technologies that we use for our goods and services, the solution is not communism, and it’s not depopulation. The same technological changes that one would make to fix “man-made climate change” are the same technological changes that one would make to fix plain old pollution, which I said I support in my first comment, for instance if you want to get rid of air pollution (particulate matter and other pollutants) from burning fossil fuels for vehicles you switch the vehicle technologies to zero emission technologies. Air pollution is real, there is no debate about it. Communism and depopulation are not the solution for getting rid of air pollution, changing the technology is the solution. How in the world does communism and depopulation become the solution for what is essentially a needed technological shift? Climate change ideology of course: you give the polluters license to pollute (carbon credit) as long as they pay up to the commie government for that carbon dioxide they emit, you can limit the amount of children in the world by making it unaffordable to have children (carbon tax for having children). If the commies have their way and everyone pays a carbon tax we will never fix pollution, pollution will be necessary to sustain the communist regime.

  220. @in the middle

    I see … empty space is the reason the Usual Suspects have to invade
    all the non-empty ones (“horror vacui“). Las Vegas
    (Meyer Lansky´s brainchild) deserves to die –
    but it will be fun to watch the water wars with Mexifornia beforehand.
    The Ogallalah will fail in 10-30 yrs at most, and the Central Valley will go
    before that. “Scenic” is realtorspeak for “uninhabitable”.

  221. @Reality Reporter

    This sounds about right (in the sense of “spot-on”, not “morally satisfying”).
    Darwin´s “fittest” are not the “desirable”, by whatever standard.

  222. @anarchyst

    Given that some four geologists (and a host of other STEMs) are haunting
    these pages it is surprising this drivel still resurfaces from time to time –
    I thought it had died with Hans Dominik (“Das stählerne Geheimnis“, 1934).
    The problem with the Russians is their sci-fi writers traditionally are members
    of the Academy of Sciences; this has proven fruitful for rocketeering, not so
    much in other fields (Lysenko).
    – Fracking has not made much of a dent in Peak Oil but proven very successful in
    relieving the gullible of their money (and the Permian has already topped).
    Populationwise fossil* fuels (gas) mean above all else cheap nitrogen fertilizer –
    of course it can somehow be substituted (like anything else) but it won´t be fun.

    *If they weren´t “fossil”, how to explain that over half of it is from the
    Middle Cretaceous Event? How to explain the pristane and phytane?

  223. @IronForge

    I don’t answer to you, pinhead.

    What’s a Spike?

  224. @IronForge

    I’ll read about CO2 later. As far as orbital solar is concerned, the power has to be transmitted back to earth somehow. Transmitting it back with microwaves has been suggested. Just beaming in concentrated sunlight is an option. These are all weapons systems disguised as energy sources.

    These are unnecessary if we develop the next generation of nuclear fission reactors that are not weapons systems in disguise.

    • Replies: @Walter
  225. Alfred says:

    Bezos and company are serious, and they have every possible resource available at their disposal.

    Nonsense. Fossil fuels – especially cheap oil – are running out fast. These delusions will meet an energy cliff soon enough.

    Expensive and impractical gadgets like electric cars are designed to be able to control the limits of your mobility and to track your movements – nothing to so with “saving the planet”

  226. Walter says:
    @RoatanBill

    About orbital solar…it’s impossible to transmit large amounts of power, significant amounts of power, from orbit to earth. At each stage of power transfer there’s loss, sometimes something like half. This results in heat at the transfer mechanism. Without a heat sink, like dense air or cold water, this heat cannot be dissipated…so, for example, see Ruski “nuclear space tug” (on line) has a very sexy heat dissipation scheme to radiate heat. But the power plant is only a few hundred watts. The machine elements, electronic oscillators and amplifiers and so on, and the solar collector system also relies on the “delta T” The result is that such a machine would self-destruct immediately. The physics simply makes the idea non-feasible.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    , @Alfred
  227. Alfred says:
    @IronForge

    From the above and other sources, CO2 issues actually start at 500ppm, adverse effects noted around 700ppm, with Cognitive Impairment around 1000ppm.

    Nonsense. People wearing masks would be dropping off like flies if what you claimed were true.

    The youngest children had the highest values, with one 7-year-old child’s carbon dioxide level measured at 25 000 ppm.

    Experimental Assessment of Carbon Dioxide Content in Inhaled Air With or Without Face Masks in Healthy Children – A Randomized Clinical Trial

    It has been my experience the Covidiots who are most in favour of masks, distancing, Hand-washing and all that nonsense are the very same people who are obsessed about the level of CO2 in the atmosphere going above 0.4% 🤣

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  228. Jon Chance says: • Website

    Globalization is a euphemism for the destruction of civilization.

    In The Breakdown of Nations, Leopold Kohr shows that throughout history people living in small nation-states are happier, more peaceful, more creative, and more prosperous.

    Virtually all our political and social problems would be greatly diminished if the world’s major political unions and “free-trade” zones were to dissolve back into the small nation-states and confederations from which they sprang.

    Rather than making ever-larger political unions and entangling alliances in the mistaken belief this will bring peace and security, we should minimize the aggregation of power by returning to a patchwork of small nation-states and confederations where leaders are accessible to and responsive to the citizens.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDVQ932i7NF0VoIBQ7Rp-_bRl6_mPfC5_

  229. @Walter

    As you say, any form of transmission will sustain losses and those losses result in heat being generated. Shooting microwave radiation, lasers, etc towards the earth’s surface needs to be collected and transformed into standard low frequency AC current for the most part as that’s how it’s needed. Depending on frequency, various molecules could be excited along the way which also produces heat.

    My concern is that any space based gadget, regardless of technology, that has the ability to beam significant amounts of energy at the surface is a weapon masquerading as an energy source. If human beings could be trusted, it might be an option, but humanity has shown that TPTsB can’t be trusted and to give them a new weapon is insanity. It’s like giving the Dick Chaney types of the world a large magnifying glass to burn up all the ants/people they don’t like.

  230. Mike Tre says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    It was evil giving them aid to begin with. Evil disguised as charity.

    The aid will come to an end eventually, most likely when the US/UN collapses economically and or infrastructurally.

    But being a the 3 incher you are, you only see the world through your “chinamynz good, white man bad” binary lens.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  231. Towey says:
    @anarchyst

    Fletcher Prouty on the invention of the term fossil fuels.

    • Thanks: Maowasayali
    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
    , @Maowasayali
  232. Alfred says:
    @Walter

    Without a heat sink, like dense air or cold water, this heat cannot be dissipated

    It is a waste of time trying to explain this concept to those who have never studied thermodynamics. They tend to assume that cooling towers outside power stations are where the fuel is burnt – hence the rising “smoke”. They have no idea why power stations are often built next to rivers or oceans. The Carnot Cycle might as well be a type of bicycle to most people. 🙂

    Carnot Cycle Efficiency

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  233. @RJ Macready

    Responses…

    1. Agreed. I have known several people positively helped by anti-depressants. Most, or all, have a family history of depression so, it’s in their DNA.

    2. Having said the above, have you considered that being (self-admitted) obsessed with video gaming may have contributed to your mental health issues? I do not kid in the slightest about that. I have witnessed plenty of boys/young men who appear rather detached from reality because of too much time spent staring at screens and fiddling with pixelated objects instead of interacting with humans.

    Secondly, as someone who currently has firsthand experience watching a 94 yr old relative live an utterly meager, sad, dull and lonely life in a nursing home, why the hell should people want to live longer? So, they can experience dying over a longer trajectory? That’s what it amounts to for most. No thanks!

    Most people absolutely miss the damn point of LIFE. Which is to LIVE it – now. Such an obvious reality that eludes so many.

    4. Interesting, perhaps you’ll be right. Personally, I don’t much care what happens to humans 100 or more years from now. I’m too busy living my life now.

  234. Farquad says:
    @RoatanBill

    I’m also an engineer, with decades of design experience, and I’m well aware that “green” energy (i.e. real time flows of solar energy) cannot power our industrial society. It is your assumption that there must be an alternative to (no longer viable) fossil fuels that you need to examine. There is another possibility: that our industrial society will not be viable without fossil fuels.

    • Replies: @RoatanBill
  235. @RoatanBill

    Not educated formally on the subject, but probably there is no alternative than nuclear if history is supposed to be linear. It would ultimately allow to recycle resources other then energy as water and air and allow for a future in an accelerating manner(not the most theoretically desirable path-way).

    Compared to faster cycles, bigger quantities of energy, then is it not preferable to tune in parallel(as a concession), population(factoring for quality, quantity, in-migration, out-migration)?

    Thorium reactors would solve energy needs, still there would be multiplicated derivatives. Population decay would fertilize and create energy in the long run, in any aspect of it’s cycle. Population control is already done for the wrong reasons anyhow. Migrations, and population growth, as a promised infinitesimal decline to overload are human engineered(as nuclear is) in the last century. No climate or event cause other was significant enough to make a dent on the curves of the graph.

  236. @Towey

    According to Fletcher Prouty, the term “fossil fuel” was first promulgated by the perfidious Rockfellers at The Geneva Congress on Organic Nomenclature of 1892.

    Hmmm… this is interesting because just about every world scam and major human tragedy perpetrated by the Jewish banksters was decided in Switzerland, inclusive of the planning of WW1 at the first Zionist Congress in Basel (Baal?) Switzerland in 1897.

    All the major players in the current COVID-19 SCAM are based in Switzerland: World Health Organization (WHO), World Economic Forum (WEF), Bank of International Settlements (BIS), and even the United Nations (UN).

    The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights is based in Geneva. The UN is the successor of the League of Nations formed after WW1, and the headquarters of the League of Nations was also based in Geneva.

    It has become quite fashionable among “truthers” (namely Zack Hubbard) to blame the Jesuits and the Catholic Church for all the evils of the world–including COVID-19. Seriously?

    Despite all his decoding and gematria incriminating the Jesuits, it’s idiotic because Catholics have been increasingly defamed for as long as I can remember while Jews are increasingly holier-than-thou and untouchable in the MSM. It’s a classic bait and switch.

    Note the Vatican still retains the Swiss Guards, which, we are led to believe, is merely symbolic. But what is it symbolic of? To me it is symbolic of foreign military occupation, just like the US soldiers and military bases in Germany, Japan and South Korea. Duh.

    • Agree: Jack Sparrow
    • Replies: @Towey
    , @RadicalCenter
  237. @lydia

    Illuminati power structure is Lucifer at top, unknown demons and entities beneath, then Illuminati – most likely heads of top international banking families, media corps, royalty, club of rome etc – then beneath that the 33 degrees of Freemasonry.

    And beneath are all the subtle ways and mechanisms which pierce through everybody’s heart and mind.
    I’m always amazed as to why nobody ever considers how these obscure paths can reach us, and rather see themselves quite immune to them. But the fact is, if that dark power structure can invade mankind realm and influence all those top heads, why wouldn’t they be able to influence and direct every single individual ?
    Because we nominate ourselves “christians” ? Wishful thinking…

  238. @TG

    I think the rich do want depopulation. I think you are making a mistake by assuming that because immigration has brought more people to Canada that the overall goal is still not depopulation. Once those people are brought here what did the elites do? They introduced a killer shot that both kills and sterilizes. This would not have been possible with these populations to the same extent over in Africa, India, etc. Now for the immigrants to keep participating in having a higher standard of living they have to submit to the new rules. On top of that they are now introduced to the culture of feminism/homosexuality and pressured to have less children. They will start to drink the elite’s Kool aide. Much of the African continent has already been the scene of de-population efforts. They intend to work on it at both ends of where the immigrants come from and where they end up. Are they working at cross purposes at times? Yes, absolutely and this is why the whole insane scheme is doomed to failure. They will assuredly decrease populations worldwide but will run into a problem of too few people soon. All their schemes of AI and robots will still require massive amounts of human capital which will be running dreadfully short. The other danger that they will run into is the brain damaged population that will result from shots. That is in addition to the problem they will soon run into with decreased marks and dupes for their banking and other schemes which was the main reason for initially increasing the populations of developed countries.
    So the plan is to milk the world’s population for as much as possible before the great die off and then eventually realize they have screwed themselves. They may be clever and deceitful but they don’t have a good handle on unintended consequences. I think the final scene they all betray and seek total control over each other. I am sure they are all plotting each other’s demise now.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Anon
  239. @Farquad

    The world needs energy. It needs fossil fuels temporarily for legacy systems that are in the process of being replaced. Thereafter, there is no need for fossil fuels mined from the ground. With sufficient energy, chemistry can manufacture fossil fuel equivalents at reasonable costs for aircraft and other uses that need high energy density liquid fuels.

    Your stated concern with nuclear was the waste issue before you moved the goal posts to cost. The Deep Water Horizon fiasco is never going to get cleaned up properly. You can read about the Taylor Energy spill that is also never going to get cleaned up.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/24/louisiana-taylor-energy-to-pay-millions-oil-spill

    Compared to the nuclear accidents, these are a far more serious problem because of where they are. The CO2 nonsense is just a scam, but the real world pollution issues surrounding oil exploration and production need to be addressed before we poison the oceans with leaking wells. There are already many capped wells that no one is monitoring and these represent a future environmental catastrophe. We need to stop adding more holes in the earth’s crust buried under miles of ocean water where out of sight out of mind allows the gov’t and corporations to ignore the damage.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Farquad
    , @Alfred
  240. @Adûnâi

    Japan was not populated with Americans but was infiltrated by Americans after WWII. Japan now has 2 people working for every 5 retired and went from being highly populated to depopulation rate.

  241. anarchyst says:
    @RoatanBill

    Ever hear of the LaBrea tar pits?
    Oil is not the great “pollutant” that the “greenies” insist…
    There are vents on the ocean floor spewing out great amounts of hydrocarbon products, much greater than most people (even scientists) realize.
    The problem with Deepwater Horizon was that the hydrocarbon products were brought to the surface and became “uncontrolled”.
    Far from being “fossil fuel”, hydrocarbons are not only plentiful but are being created by yet-unknown processes deep within the earth.
    The term “fossil fuel” was coined in the 1950s when little was known about the processes by which oil is produced. Oil is “abiotic” in nature, as even depleted oil wells are “filling back up” from deep below the earth’s surface.
    Oil interests are drilling wells at 5,000 feet, 10,000 feet, and 15,000 feet and deeper, and coming up with oil deposits way below the layers and levels where “fossils” were known to exist.
    As Russia gained much expertise in deep-well drilling and coming up with oil deposits far deeper than that of the level of “fossils”, abiotic oil at extreme depths was actually a Russian ‘state secret” for a long time.
    Not only that, but there are planetary bodies in which hydrocarbons are naturally occurring (without fossils).
    “Peak oil” and “fossil fuels” are discredited concepts that environmentalists (greenies) and others are latching on to, in order to display their hatred of oil being a renewable resource as well as to push prices up.
    Follow the money.

    • Agree: Jack Sparrow
  242. Towey says:
    @Maowasayali

    The history of the Swiss guards. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Swiss-Guards
    With regard to the Catholic Church, I believe that it is heretical since Vatican II when the dogmas of the Faith regarding salvation were denied. The Church, like every single other government and institution both public and private, has been infiltrated and dominated by the communists since the second WW. It was the USA and UK that the ensured the survival of communism when they became allies of Stalin and financed the reconstruction of the Red Army after Hitler had destroyed it at Barbarossa. Wall St had been responsible for financing the Bolshevik Revolution. See Anthony Sutton. Wall St and the Bolshevik Revolution.
    The coordination of the lockdown of the economies in every country in the world, both public and private is proof of the power that is now in the hands of the moneychangers.
    The bankers have been enemies of the Church since the Reformation when usury was legalised which in turn lead to the privatisation of the issue of the currency with the establishment of the central banks. It is through the imposition of central banks on every country in the world that the usurers have accumulated enough wealth and power to impose their goal of a NWO.

  243. Walter says:

    Some commenters above may imagine that petroleum is a fossil material, thus finite and a limitation on population. This is established to be false.

    Many imagine that CO2 in atmosphere is mostly from human activities and is the cause of warming. In reality the sun and space weather is primary driver, thus most CO2 is result of warming, not cause.

    This is established.

    see> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235968214_Synthesis_of_complex_hydrocarbon_systems_at_temperatures_and_pressures_corresponding_to_the_Earth%27s_upper_mantle_conditions Please do follow the chemistry of the synthesis…it’s really junior high level chemistry.

    Methane is also not fossil. Somewhat similar synthesis. Do some reading of real science, not magical propaganda.

  244. @Maowasayali

    THESE CHARTS PROVE THAT HUMAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING IS A POLITICAL SCAM AND NOT BASED ON ICE AGE REALITY

    Earth locked into ice age cycles, current interglacial not the warmest

    holocene temperature taper, steady cooling for 8,000 years

    Human caused CO2 is 0.117% of all greenhouse gases – so small it is not even measurable:

    Carbon Dioxide is a trace gas, and human caused CO2 is minor

    • Agree: Alden
    • Thanks: Maowasayali
  245. @Yukon Jack

    Didn’t Klaus Schwab recently tell us that we’ll own nothing and eat bugs and enjoy it, as part of the COVID-19 Great Reset?

    That idea of eating bugs was ostensibly implanted into our heads about 2 decades ago with the cow fart jokes. Implicit in the joke was that humans should eat less meat (beef) in order to save the world. LOL.

    When a Jewish fart joke becomes science and a serious anti-climate change meme, you know you’re living in Clown World

    If I remember correctly, it was about 2 decades ago that the Jewish oligarchs simply switched the bait from global cooling to global warming. Now they just call it “climate change” which means absolutely nothing and everything.

    Ultimately, if the wicked Jews get their way, they will have us goyim eating shit.

  246. Farquad says:
    @RoatanBill

    The universe is under no obligations to fulfill our needs for energy. The world we have built was built on the stored solar energy of fossil fuels – stating with peat, moving to coal, oil and then gas. You may believe it can be continued with other energy sources, but that has not been proven – it’s an assumption you’re making based on faith and wishful thinking. Once the true costs of fission and these other plans are included, they are not viable. Those costs in the case of fission include cleaning up the waste, which we have no idea how to do, let alone any chance of affording it.

    • LOL: RoatanBill
  247. @Walter

    Whenever I see the fossil fuel bullshit I ask the moron how the oil companies shipped all the dead dino’s and trees to Saturn’s moon Titan and the Horse-head Nebula, both known to be soaked in Petro-Chemicals (or Hydro-Carbons as the sane call them).

    • Thanks: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Jack Sparrow
    , @Alexandros
  248. mkr says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Mulga Mumblebrain,

    I replied to you. You called me a religious lunatic. Now it’s only fair that you answer to my reply.

    The man-made climate change cult has convinced human beings that they are pollution. They have convinced human beings that human beings’ presence here on Earth is detrimental to the Earth. These are fundamental errors on your part, for accepting it, and not realizing the trap that was set for you that you willingly step into and accept, and that trap was set by people who want nothing more than worldwide communism and to depopulate the Earth.

  249. @Maowasayali

    Methane is measured in parts per billion, yet the TV tells you it is an existential threat. Depopulation may be achieved from stupidity, but not from cow emissions.

    cow farts less than 1% man made methane

    • Agree: Maowasayali
    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  250. Space colonisation will become a reality in the VR Meta worse.

  251. No I don’t think so. If they’re implementing a depopulation agenda why are they sending relief to famine and disaster stricken Third World countries with the greatest population growth rates and replacing low TFR European natives with high TFR Muslim and other high TFR Third World immigrants?

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @sulu
  252. Johan says:

    The elites are out to reduce democratic mass man, the latter is a self-contented and self-satisfied bore which in the last 170 years started to occupy everything, so fond of himself, thinks that he owns the universe and has the right to be representative of everything. The more of him the better he thinks, the more he can put his tyrannical dictates on everyone by means of his quantitative system of majorities. The elites and democratic man are really two tyrants fighting, two means dogs at war. Democratic mass man will have to learn that it is not the blind power of quantities which wins. Democratic mass man has been digging his own grave, and justifiably becomes overruled by means fair or foul, his faith is the faith of a tyrant.
    So far the covid situation and the climate change hoax are quantity based scams, the power of quantities used against the quantities of democratic mass man, getting defeated by his own so dearly loved means, his own power now working against him, ain’t that cleverly constructed.

  253. anarchyst says:
    @mkr

    Your statement:

    The man-made climate change cult has convinced human beings that they are pollution.

    …is absolutely correct in stating how the “greenies” consider humanity (except for themselves).

    If (((they))) have their way, what is left of humanity after the poison “jabs” take their course will be in walled-off soviet-style apartment buildings with the pristine wilderness only available to the “anointed” “greenies”…

    Automobiles will be off limit, the “unwashed” humans will be limited to buses and trains. Only the “greenies” will be allowed to use automobiles.

    (((They))) will tell you that “you will own nothing, and will be happy” and that “it’s all for your own good”…

    • Replies: @mkr
  254. @Yukon Jack

    As a TRUE MORON, you are anally fixated. The methane problem with livestock ruminants is principally from their belches, you Life-hating cretin. PS imbecile-water vapour increases with temperature so is a positive feedback to greater climate chaos, and the greater disturbance of the hydrological cycle. Dullard.

    • Replies: @Yukon Jack
  255. @mkr

    People consuming and polluting is the problem. Even as technology improved, the planet’s life-support systems proceeded to collapse ever more quickly. If you wish to deny that then you are ignorant of the true situation, too stupid to appreciate it, or, judging from your gibbering about ‘Revelations’ etc, a religious loony, ie a dullard afraid of death. Or some combination of these attributes. As I noted, a reduced population is coming, either my preferred way, slowly and humanely, or yours, in some techno-End Times conflagration.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
    , @mkr
  256. @Maowasayali

    What a cretin you are. The problem is ruminants BELCHING you ignorant dolt, NOT farting. Your anal fixation is typical of your type.

    • LOL: Alrenous
    • Troll: Maowasayali
  257. Towey says:
    @mkr

    150 years ago, the English economist William Jevons mapped the relationship between sunspots and the business cycle; more spots, a more active sun, warmer weather, better harvests and more money in the economy. He was inspired to do so by the observation made by the astronomer William Herschel, that in times of high sunspot activity, the price of wheat fell.
    I was taught this in economics at LSE in the late seventies.
    It was the Communist Canadian billionaire, Maurice Strong that invented the lie of manmade global warming to destroy western economies and civilization, only. China, India and Indonesia can build as many coal fired power stations as they want and nobody says a thing.
    It was promoted by Margaret Thatcher at the UN conference of 1989 to destroy the British coal industry and thus the unions that opposed her government. She later retracted her support but it was too late for the economies of the northern industrial towns and cities that were destroyed by the misguided policies that resulted from this lie.
    Margaret Thatcher’s speech to the 1989 UN conference can be found on her site

  258. @mulga mumblebrain

    Ten billion people is possible! Ten billion and more! Ten billion is (un)desirable, (un)like as to adding quality of life to the living. There is no harm in a lesser population count, people that are not born are not necessarily “unhappy”. All and every aspect of human life is human factored, measured, accounted for, manipulated, commercialized, warred on and off. Should population factoring not be on the list together with nuclear plants, accounted for. Should “economics” not account for human inflation and evidenced consequences of inflation. Together with the nuclear energy debate, “fossil” fuels and how “cheap” they are(as in expensive in derivative pollution regardless of warming), human factoring done right, has but correlations to anything under the sun. Is covid and it’s preposterous vaxxing not human manipulation on a global scale? Inflation and inequality solved in the short term, a minor acquirement? Could it(population steerage) be cheaper and less far fetched, then putting a date on the delusional(from a physics point of view), sperm-head Bezos’s, quest for outer Space? Above is not even an argument, human population manipulation is done today, only not under the cloak of eugenics but by the cunning of finance, trade, war, psychological manipulation of the collective populations. Eugenics needs globalism, and straightforward goal settings. A single person less, in all cases tops any other factoring in impact of positive outcome.

    Just some suggestions, feel free to abuse, they are owned by unz.com, and as such free for grabs.

  259. windship says:

    It’s quite pointless to talk about human population in isolation. We are animals, a product of an ecosystem, once called by some the Garden of Eden. An ecological worldview is essential, and the planet is our finite semi-luxurious home until a few rich fools go to colonize Mars, which as we all know has almost no atmosphere and very little water or heat. A crappy second home.

    Right now there are about 8 billion humans, and along with our livestock and pets, this already represents about 97% of all terrestrial vertebrate biomass. In other words, all the other creatures with spines now only make up 3%, and that number is rapidly falling. This doesn’t end well.

    But to add another reality in energy throughput, as Nate Hagens points out, we Fire Apes now have the equivalent of 500 billion energy slaves working for humanity, in terms of fossil fuel powered machinery. It’s no mystery why CO2 is outpacing biological sequestration now, we are converting a billion years of stored bio-carbon into heat and CO2 in the blink of an eye.

    As we go further into what appears to be an uncontrollable Overshoot, not only will our anger, frustration and despair increase, but we will also become the dominant source of nutrients on the planet. Since Nature seems to like diversity, we and our livestock and agriculture will become more and more the target of adaptive viruses, bacteria and fungi, to the point where we have to spend more and more energy on defense, until the EROI of this struggle drops below 1, and the human population crashes. That future is visible already, but as William Gibson said, it’s not evenly distributed.

    VR is no safe escape for the Fire Ape, the only exit door is Death.

  260. Anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Sparrow

    What would the population of Africa have been without the depopulation efforts?

  261. @Towey

    So here is a Dunning-Krugerite psychopath who thinks that the observation of Jevons and Herschel over 150 years ago, in ONE tiny area of a VAST field, somehow repudiate all the science and observation since. If the fate of humanity was not hanging by a thread such a dullard imbecile would best be ignored, but it is vicious, hard Right psychopaths like this who have won, and Near Term Human Extinction looms ever closer. At least this infestation will be removed, too, before its infects the cosmos.

    • Replies: @Towey
  262. @Yukon Jack

    Why don’t cretins like you ever cite where your imbecile stupidities were crafted, anymore? It would give the game away, wouldn’t it. To lower myself into the shite that is your natural habitat, how is it that 99% of actively researching climate scientists and ALL the Academies of Science and scientific societies on Earth, repudiate this shite? Are they less clever than you (I bet you think so, like a typical Dunning-Krugerite) or are they all lying, Green, Commies, or some such phantom of your sad, sick, Life-hating, psyche.

    • Replies: @Yukon Jack
  263. @Walter

    YET another Dunning-Krugerite cretin that knows a little bit about something, and feck all about most of the topic, but, being a narcissistic psychopath, but not too bright, thinks he is a genius. To think that H. ‘sapiens’ has been destroyed by H. imbecilens is really quite funny.

  264. ARepli says:

    First of all, the Sun is 93 million miles away. There’s no way something that far away can make a difference on business cycles.

    Second, the Sun is just a tiny percentage of the sky, as if being super far away didn’t already put it out of the equation.

    Third, sunspots are just a minuscule fraction of the Sun. Do I have to draw it with little boxes and graphs or do you get the picture?

    So all this sunspot (((hokum))) just has another stupid goyim wrapped around the Fat Axel Rose of blaming himself instead of the space lizards.

    Next thing you know they’ll start blaming space for letting lizards get to the earth, which is cray-cray because space is completely empty. How space even matter when there’s absolutely nothing there! Nothing can’t provide the medium for space lizard travel.

    As to climate change, if you all weren’t so (((brainwashed))) you’d see that the right thing to do with all the cooling over the 8000-year ice age interval is to send it to space, which is more than big and empty enough to hold any amount of cold weather the earth will ever produce.

  265. @Towey

    You raise two important points …

    Warming will actually make it easier to feed the world – deserts will shrink
    (not altogether desirable in the case of the the Sahara 😛 ) and growing seasons
    expand; there will be no runaway anything (except population) – Gaia has
    tackled the Primary Soda Ocean, compared to which whatever we might try
    is a skeeter [whatever gaseous emanation, Mulga].

    The collieries … Britain made the strategic switch with the (oil-fired, turbine-driven)
    Dreadnaught class 1903 (a.k.a. the Empire´s Last Hooray); keeping them
    open after WWII was sold as “strategic” (when the only threat to Britain´s overseas
    communications was the US) but surely was about employment too – in what
    proportion I was not privy to. After Australian coal came fully online and
    was cheaper and better f.o.b. Hamburg than English coal at the minehead,
    this became wholly untenable; the contagion also laid waste to British Railways
    (buying subsidized coal for the employees while not even having steam infrastructure
    is lunacy). Unless privatizing rail (utter idiocy) was Thatcher´s goal from
    the beginning she did the right thing (maybe for the wrong reasons).

  266. Alden says:
    @IronForge

    There is only one way to insert an IUD into the uterus and it definitely does not involve cutting into the uterus . And 99 percent of the IUDs inserted are a plastic polyurethane not copper.

    And IUDs can be easily removed by anyone at any time including by the woman into whom it is inserted.

  267. Alden says:
    @Reality Reporter

    In America, particularly in Seattle and Silicon Valley tech employees are mostly Indian and Chinese. Texas tech has not yet banned Whites but is fast following the West Coast trend of banning Whites from tech employment. I don’t know about N Carolina Boston and other East Coast areas. But on the West Coast even the best educated Whites can’t count on getting jobs in the tech companies their grandfathers built.

  268. The evil elite is responsible for both depopulation AND overpopulation. In Africa for example, why is the demography so greatly disconnected from agricultural capacities ? Elite controlled NGOs giving free food, free health care “to save lives” (ok it’s great” to save lives”, but then there are problems), Elite bankers giving debt cancellation etc..so the purchase power for food imports in these poor countries is greater than it should be.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  269. Towey says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    All the science and observation since has confirmed the relationship between sunspots and temperature! I was taught this in the late seventies.
    Temperatures in the Roman period and Middle Ages were higher than they are now. The population was infinitely smaller and there were no coal fired power stations.
    Jevons and Herschel were fortunate in that they could carry out their research without the interference of the Jewish communist bankers

  270. @Christophe GJ

    You got it backwards … all that “aid” is designed to drain developing countries
    of forex while ruining the indigenous farmers, thereby setting conditions
    for turning the country into plantations (in cutthroat competition with other
    developing nations) and mines (same) desperately trying to earn \$\$\$ and therefore
    in no position to argue environmental or labor standards.
    It is the diametral opposite of what the Natzees did.
    Have functioning farmers able to feed a reasonable population, and a lot
    becomes possible through sound policy – can´t have that;
    their love for profit still trumps their hatred for the deplorables.

    • Agree: Towey
  271. @anon

    The scrubbing is done not by me, but by the “editing process”, @unz. On the contrary me is an outsider proposition for real.

  272. Barring an enormous technical breakthrough like teleportation as seen in Star Trek, humans will never live anywhere but Earth. Maybe like everything on TV being fake, you might be told those millions of persons who blasted off into outer space are living in “the colonies” somewhere, when they’d really be six feet under….fake moon landings anyone?

    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  273. @windship

    Essential my dear Watson! Concisely and with overview, the hart of the matter. In the long run, this is going to be one of the realistic scenarios in short term outcome.

  274. @Bill Jones

    I always want to ask them how the dead dinos and trees ended up buried under many layers of earth and how we don’t observe that being the case to how dead plant and animal material is disposed of today. My theory is that dead plant and animal material from the ocean floor is pushed by enormous amounts of pressure from tons of water into cracks where it then works it’s way toward the surface filling hollow spaces in the earth. This explains how oil wells are re-filled.
    Rivers all over the world are depositing tons of organic material annually into the oceans which all has to go somewhere. Some of it of course becomes food for ocean plant and animal life but some of it simply settles on the bottom and eventually becomes oil. Human activity such as waste and agriculture increases the amount of organic material. It is a cyclical process that has been going on forever.

  275. @mulga mumblebrain


    Obviously my potent graphics set you off. I have news for you, CO2 and CH4 have nothing to do with the earth’s heat balance equation, neither of them cause runaway warming. Global Warming is a hoax and the only scientists that support this stupidity are the ones farming state grants.

    Both CO2 and CH4 are being demonized by the media to corral and control humans. Outside of that, these life gases are not pollutants or harmful. Because we breath we are being made the enemy.

    We are in an ice age, and the slight increase in CO2 will have no effect on the weather, if you think otherwise I am sorry you are wrong. CO2 will not stop the ice age progression, we are not going to warm the planet with CO2 at 420 ppm, palm trees are never going to grow in Minneapolis.

    The entire green movement is batshit insane looney tunes. Want proof the imbeciles that actually believe the CO2 warming crap they model go to the poles and get stuck in the ice time and again. They are idiots beyond compare.

  276. @mulga mumblebrain

    The methane problem with livestock ruminants is principally from their belches,

    Obviously you don’t know much about cows. The methane the cow produces comes out as flatulance, and here is the proof – a farmer collecting methane from the fart (not the belch).

    The device is called a “fartpack”.

    Something else, global warming is held as a religious belief by many people, and when you offend someone’s most sacred belief they get really mad. Sorry to tell you, global warming is a gigantic hoax and CO2 does not warm the planet. The media lied to you, and you need to figure that out.

    If CO2 was causal, then why did the planet cool when CO2 was over 3,000 ppm?
    And why did the ice melt at the end of the last ice age when CO2 was less than 200 ppm?

  277. Alfred says:
    @RoatanBill

    before we poison the oceans with leaking wells.

    In the real and physical world, not the fake one manufactured by propagandists, oil is an extremely energy-dense substance. Bacteria adapted to consuming this oil flourish. In no time at all, the energy is extracted. The bacteria population overshoots and rapidly dies off. Different bacteria consume different parts of the compounds that oil is composed of.

    Anyone who believes the MSM should do some research for themselves. This is what Google offered on its first result. FYI, it is a dynamic world out there. Valuable oil does not hang around and wait for Exxon or BP to pick it up. 🙂

    Although hydrocarbon-degrading microbes seem exotic, they are found around the world in low abundance, even when crude oil is not present. In fact, GoMRI researchers discovered that many well-known types of microbes (ex: Bacteroidetes) have the potential to degrade hydrocarbons. During an oil spill, these low-abundance microbes sense hydrocarbons and move toward the source. There they flourish and reproduce. The bloom consumes hydrocarbons, sometimes transforming them into byproducts that are harder to break down. After depleting available nutrients, the bloom species die off and other organisms that degrade these byproducts dominate.

    How Microbes Clean up Oil: Lessons From the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill

  278. @Alfred

    The point is that technology for extracting oil is insufficient should there be a problem. That’s because the wells are so deep and robots can only do so much. They are also invisible so we won’t know when one starts to leak.

    But you’ve convinced me that we should just not worry so much about polluting the planet since we’re told that the bugs will clean it up. Therefore I propose we all make sure we start dumping all out plastic in the oceans since there are bugs that break down plastic too.

    • Replies: @Alfred
  279. @Yukon Jack

    If CO2 was causal, then why did the planet cool when Co2 was over 3,000 ppm?

    I´m glad you asked 😛
    I suppose you mean your graph from #130 “previous ice age” –
    the “Sahara” glaciation in the uppermost Ordovician is incompletely understood
    (read: the fossil record is shitty) but they found a complete marine sequence in the Urals;
    it was immediately preceded by the “Ikarus Event” i.e. the first appearance of
    L-type chondrites and a ~tenfold increase in meteorite flow translate:
    something big happened in the asteroid belt.
    You will notice the next (“Gondwana”) glaciation is preceded by a precipitous
    drop in CO2 – this marks the development of land plants and the deposition
    of the coal measures (Carboniferous).

    In detail things are a lot more complicated e.g. the Antarctic ice shield could
    only form after the opening of the Drake Passage (-26Ma) isolated it.
    There have been glaciations since ~2Ga (that we know of) i.e. immediately
    after the oxyatmoversion (beginning of the drop in atmospheric CO2),
    currently the most interesting one is the eoCambrian (“Snowball Earth”).

  280. mkr says:
    @anarchyst

    Not only do they say that by 2030 you will own nothing (property) and be happy, they even think that they own your body as evidenced by “vaccine” mandates; they don’t think that you have sovereignty over your own body.

    There will be no property rights and no human rights under the dictatorship. You will literally own nothing.

    They even think they own your children as evidenced by them passing legislation that enables them to “vaccinate” your children without your consent.

    List goes on, scratch a “man made climate change” proponent and you’ll find a depopulationist, a commie, and someone that doesn’t believe in human rights or property rights.

    “Evil never builds anything, all it can ever do is destroy or corrupt that which good invented or made”.

    • Agree: Herald, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  281. @windship

    It is interesting that what you are pointing can be coupled with both narratives, either a global warming, or a progressive freezing into another glacial era.
    And in both cases, it spells doom for human species…

    • Agree: nokangaroos
  282. mkr says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Scratch a “man made climate change” proponent and you’ll find a depopulationist, a commie, and someone that doesn’t honor human beings’ human rights, property rights, or freedom.

    “Evil never builds anything, all it can ever do is destroy or corrupt that which good invented or made”.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  283. @mkr

    Scratch an anthropogenic climate destabilisation denialist and you’ll find an imbecile, an ignoramus, a Dunning-Krugerite, a brainwashed Rightwing thug and an enemy of Life on Earth. Like you. The sort of vermin who values his ‘property’ more than the lives of our children. PURE Evil.

    • Replies: @mkr
  284. @Alfred

    What you, being a brainwashed Rightwing cretin, do not appreciate is before the micro-organisms consume the gunk, it kills marine life, poisons fisheries, kills mangroves and poisons humans further up the food-chain. You seem to have some imbecile notion that the bugs move in overnight, and the next day the goo is gone. Were you always this stupid, or have you grown dimmer with age?

    • Replies: @Jack Sparrow
  285. @Yukon Jack

    As I believe nokangaroos below points out, the conditions on Earth have changed markedly since the Snowball Earth days, and our knowledge of what occurred so long ago is partial.
    Why are you denialist fanatics so determined to show yourselves to be cretins by denying the established science of CO2 being a greenhouse gas? It is not the only factor, and no-one EVER said so, but it IS an important one, and rapid forcings of greenhouse gases MUST, all other factors being equal, increase the amount of energy sequestered in the global system. I really must admit that I am becoming, if not surprised, then bemused by just how viciously fanatical Rightwing imbeciles can be.

  286. mkr says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I literally said that we need to change the technologies that we use so that we have the same goods and services but don’t pollute.

    Your problem is that’s not good enough for you, you want depopulation, you want communist/fascist dictatorship, no human rights, no property rights, no freedom.

  287. @mkr

    – There is no consumption without pollution
    (besides, overshoot is least of all about pollution).
    – Consumption will be reduced, like it or not; this means either less for everybody or reduction in numbers. Of course you favor the reduction of others – the others, being un-American, will beg to differ (= all the more proof they must be reduced).

    Your Constitutional Right to being an asshole may be Quintessentially American ™
    but it will be taken away – and you better pray by the Chinese and not the Gretta zombies
    (I hate it when I have to side with Mulga – and you wouldn´t like me when I´m angry 😀 )

    • Replies: @mkr
  288. @Johnny Johnny

    Remove ” Barring an enormous technical breakthrough like teleportation as seen in Star Trek,” and your post is fine as cream gravy.

  289. @mkr

    Even with your ‘solution’ there would be too much consumption and production, and therefore pollution, for the Earth to survive. You are the sort of pernicious insect, so common on the Right, for which ‘property’ is more precious than Life.

    • Replies: @mkr
  290. @Yukon Jack

    Maybe you should consider moving to the Yukon, Yukon Jack, I would not classify Whitehorse as crowded. If the move is too much, get on the back of a horse and ride it to somewhere, or maybe consider listening to Simply Red’s Holding Back the Years, find a patch of grass, lie down on it, and watch the clouds roll by.

    Bill Gates is just a student driver. When the planet decides it has too many humans, it will kill them all off with ease, and let whatever is next take its turn.

  291. Alfred says:
    @RoatanBill

    Therefore I propose we all make sure we start dumping all out plastic in the oceans since there are bugs that break down plastic too.

    We were discussing oil leaks. You are presenting a straw man argument. 🙂

    The fact that they chose a part of the world that is uninhabited and that is as remote as one can get is all you need to know. Why is there no “garbage patch” in the almost closed Mediterranean? An area that is densely inhabited and well-traveled? An area where lots of rivers pour their trash into the sea?

    Sometimes I wonder whether guys like you ever go out and have a look at nature and the sea. I am only 200 metres from the Mediterranean here.

    There Is No Island of Trash in the Pacific

    • Agree: Towey
    • Troll: RoatanBill
  292. mkr says:
    @nokangaroos

    Consumption can be reduced by making quality non-polluting products that are made to last a long time instead of products being deliberately made to be garbage in just a few years time. We should make products that are made to not only last a long time but also that are recyclable.

    No where did I say I favored the reduction of any people.

    Everything on your side if filth, “either we live like serfs or reduce our numbers”, which is essentially what you’re saying.

    There is no hope on your side, everything you say is gloom and doom, thankfully, all the gloom and doom forecasts have always failed, because it’s nonsense.

    Give me an example of you being angry, I would like to see what that entails.

    • Replies: @Jack Sparrow
    , @nokangaroos
  293. mkr says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    We can make products that are non-polluting that are made to last a long time and that are recyclable. We just have to know what we’re doing, why were doing it, and do it.

    Every piece of property that you have is a tool of some sort. Property is life, without tools you cannot make fire, feed yourself, gather water, cloth yourself, make shelter, make medicines, all of that is property, so what are you talking about with your “property” nonsense, you sound like a communist who doesn’t think.

    All of your theories about this are fear of what is going to happen in the future, so you set out to rectify your fear through depopulation and destruction of living standards, based on fear of the unknown and modeling (that continuously fails). People like you do stupid things all the time, you do evil things for fear of things that don’t even pan out, showing yourself for the tyrant that you are. Your literal solution for the future is tyranny. What’s wrong with you?

    Your solutions require destruction of one form or another, why not try building instead, is that too hard, have you ever built anything in your life?

    Give me an example of what you mean by me valuing property over life, be specific?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  294. @mkr

    I think things should be made so they can be repaired so we only need to replace the part, not the whole appliance, computer, etc. That is where tons of pollution comes from.

  295. @mulga mumblebrain

    Look at you, you’re an angry little elf!

    • LOL: nokangaroos
  296. CO2 does not force temperature, and anyone who studies this knows this. Chart that proves it:

    I do not think you have actually delved into the science of this topic, because it is impossible to study the relationship of CO2 vs. temperature and not know this. I think you are hopelessly branded by media propaganda. You talk of snowball earth, I am talking about very recent earth, hard data from ice core samples, CO2 lags temperature going up and down. CO2 comes out of ocean (solution) when earth warms and the lag is 800 – 2000 years. That is hard data, no CO2 forcing temp at all.

    Al Gore presented this information backwards in his movie, Al Gore is a raving idiot who never took a single college science course, and does not have a scientific mind. He got it wrong. CO2 follows temperature and not the other way around. And if you believe otherwise you are wrong. Sorry buddy!

    Many scientists who counter the ridiculous assertions that this trace gas is doing something like forcing earth’s temperatures will tell you:

    1. Ice Ages start with high CO2.

    2. Ice Ages end with low CO2

    3. The last big melt which started 18,000 years ago, when Canada was covered in 2 miles of ice, happened when CO2 was at the lowest level in the history of earth, less than 200 ppm. That proves CO2 has nothing to do with ice age cycles or melting or warming.

    You are media branded by this hoax and hold your unscientific views based on emotions, not fact. Your views are being challenged here because you are not in TV land, your most sacred environmental belief that CO2 is the boogeyman is completely wrong. CO2 is a life gas, without it we are all dead. Plant grow on earth is going up with CO2 increase, which is increasing life on earth. Bill Gates and his zero carbon goal is a death merchant, insane psychopath, and like Al Gore and you has no idea what the hell he is talking about.

  297. @mkr

    Techno-optimism is a nice thingy – if one can get it.
    I´m a mining geologist, not some Chicken Little, and I don´t.

    The “climate” won´t kill us – if anything it will help us a little.
    The “pollution” won´t make us dead either.
    Windship #266 laid out the bare bones of the problem ( dieoff.org has a good
    collection of the classics).
    We will probably be able to muddle through this century on fossil
    (albeit in ways that will make Gretta´s hair fall out) but sometime the
    Green Revolution will be cancelled and individual motor transport will become
    precarious (again). I know “sustainable” is a dirty word but the sorry results
    of Shelley vs Kraemer and Rosa Parks are anything but –
    the American Dream is no longer Keeping Up with the Joneses Kardashians
    but Getting Away from the Kundelungus – at horrible waste.
    So far a solution only needs unlimited free energy, so I won´t rule it out (OK, I lie).
    Then there´s water and topsoil; the Midwest won´t make it another generation,
    the Sahel, Madagascar and tracts of the Amazon are already gone.

    If you have optimism to spare … 😉

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  298. How do WE know the earth is “overpopulated “?

    Here is a thread where the numbers are debated.

    https://big-lies.org/NUKE-LIES/www.nukelies.com/forum/are-world-populations-exaggerated.html

    Given how dodgy anything they tell us is, it’s worth a look.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  299. @nokangaroos

    – Mussolini is still hated for having every goat in Sicily culled, but it was
    the reasonable thing to do; the World is not a safe space full of plush
    unicorns and coloring books.

  300. @mkr

    And did the capitalists respect the traditional property rights of tribal aboriginal nations and nomads, forcing them into reservations and plying them with alcohol, when once they used to own and roam entire continents? Or do they respect borders of countries whose resources they want to loot?

    • Replies: @Jack Sparrow
  301. @mkr

    We can but we don’t. Products have in-built obsolescence, ever faster obsolescence, that can’t be repaired and are to be disposed. The more they preach sustainability the more short-lived are the products they create. Apparently their industries are cleaner but older dirtier industries used to produce repairable products with longer longevity.

    Also wanting management of society and environment, even on a global scale, does not need to be tyrannical.

    • Agree: PetrOldSack
  302. @Yukon Jack

    More ice -> decreased biological productivity -> CO2 (from plate tectonics)
    accumulates in the atmosphere.
    What you are seeing is a negative feedback cycle (a very welcome one at that,
    or every glaciation would be runaway) – the nature of a dynamic equilibrium
    can be hard to grok 😉
    With a modicum of effort you might find a worthier cause for your religious
    fervor (agreed on Al Gore, btw.).

  303. @Yukon Jack

    To be fair Al Gore did not invent, or come up with anything original or new, he just presented what was accepted by most climate scientists for a long time. The warming effect of IR absorption by CO2 and other “greenhouse” gases is theoretically feasible and has recently been demonstrated in a bench-top experiment

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.192075

    However, how this plays out in the real world is more complex due to various known, and possibly some unknown, feedback mechanisms and other effects and factors. Personally I would expect rising CO2 to promote biological growth (plants and algae) rather than warming, and for that growth to acts as a sink for CO2 and so moderate the warming impacts. But then we see the CO2 increasing so the photosynthetic sink is not working so well to maintain the balance, and this could be because the biosphere itself is under attack by development, forest clearing, changes in land use patterns, etc.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  304. dieterh says:

    The number of ‘cvoid deaths’ given by the CRIMINALS behind this FAKE PANDEMIC are of course TOTAL FICTION.

    They include every single death not related to it. The real number of deaths for this NOT NOVEL disease is lower than an avergae flu.

    At this moment in time is taking place the GRAND JURY – https://www.grand-jury.net/

    Lawyers, judge, scientists, former US & British Intel, doctors, former WHO, former Pfizer VP, undertaker, whistleblowers, virologists, and other experts explain how the covid psyop has been planned and share evidences of crimes agsint humanity (including genocide, enslavement and depopulation).

    https://www.grand-jury.net/

    A MUST WATCH, IT SETTLES THE QUESTION.

    • Thanks: Maowasayali
    • Replies: @Jack Sparrow
  305. @dieterh

    John’s Hopkins just verified that the PCR test can vaccinate you. This has to be a crime wherever and whenever this occurs as it is actually poisoning someone while presenting this as an innocuous test.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  306. @Commentator Mike

    What traditional property rights? Tribes did not even understand ownership of the land. As you said, they were nomadic. They did not believe anyone can own the land. They basically had the same understanding of property rights as a cat does. What they mark is theirs. To further confuse things the various tribes often had competing claims. But your argument as I understand it is that because some people do not respect property rights they should not exist? What gains native tribes have been able to achieve was based on property rights.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  307. @Maowasayali

    Newsflash: World’s largest lab-grown steak unveiled by Israeli firm

    The largest lab-grown steak yet produced has been unveiled by the Israeli company MeaTech 3D, weighing in at nearly 4oz (110 grams).

    [….]

    In November, [2021] Redefine Meat presented its 3D-printed plant-based steak in London. The Guardian’s taster described its mimicry of real meat as “extraordinary”. Other firms working on plant-based meat include Atlast Food, which is using fungus fibres to create textures similar to meat.

    Huge reductions in meat eating are essential in rich nations to cut greenhouse gas emissions from livestock and avoid dangerous climate change. One study found that avoiding meat and dairy products was the single biggest way to reduce an individual’s environmental impact. Plant products have very low emissions, but cell-cultured meat can require large amounts of energy to produce, potentially causing significant emissions if not from low-carbon sources.

    Source: Guardian Newspaper

    Q.E.D.

  308. @Jack Sparrow

    I know what you mean but I disagree that one set of people should impose their ideas on others, whether ideas of property ownership or whatever. It is ridiculous to compare tribal and aboriginal peoples to animals. They did have reasonably well developed religious, spiritual, societal, medicinal, and environmental ideas and mythologies to explain their lifestyles and in some aspects they were superior to those of modern man, especially when it comes to respect for nature and living sustainable low carbon and low waste lifestyles (not all, some primitive island nations exhausted their resources). So they fell behind in technological development but let’s see where this technological development will lead to eventually, and if this will be superior and more fulfilling than a primitive lifestyle.

    • Replies: @Jack Sparrow
  309. –in the margin, nothing to do with the argument:

    What traditional property rights? Tribes did not even understand ownership of the land. As you said, they were nomadic. They did

    …and for thousands of years after that, air and water were part of the commoner wealth.

  310. @Thomas Milton

    The evidence is in the rapidly accelerating ecological collapse of Earth’s life-supporting systems. To ignore or deny that is insanity.

  311. @Yukon Jack

    The thing about denialist morons, apart from their moral Evil, which will NOT go unpunished, is their thick-headed obstinacy. This denialist canard was refuted years ago, but is a duck that will not die.
    At the ends of glaciations (not Ice Ages you cretin)the Milankovitch Cycles kick in. That you do not mention the Milankovitch Cycles illustrates your pig ignorance or mendacity, or both. The cycles commence the change back to inter-glacials, which are hastened and furthered by positive feed-backs eg loss of ice cover, lowering the planet’s albedo, therefore increasing heat trapped in the Earth system, and the release of greenhouse gases, CO2 and methane, from frozen deposits, or from bacteria etc munching on newly unfrozen organic matter. Positive feed-backs to warming.
    The situation today is different. We are not at the end of a glacial period, but the Holocene inter-glacial. We ought to be slowly cooling, but are not, because of the greatest and most rapid forcing of greenhouse gases emitted to the atmosphere since at least the PETM of 55 million years ago. These emissions are man-made ie anthropomorphic, and NOT the same as the conditions that you allude to. Do try and get the facts into your pig ignorant, moronic, cranium, you malignant buffoon.

    • Replies: @Yukon Jack
  312. Selarohm says:

    Hewitt:

    I like your article, “Depopulation for Dummies”. The question I would have for you is: As an author do you have any medical training in your background? I’m not expecting any but sometimes authors do have background in the subjects they are covering in books, articles or short stories. An innocent, straight forward question about your background, if you please.

    It’s definitely a complex topic to take on for anyone; especially now. I read contradictions amongst groups of doctors, immunologists and virologists, etc. My background is as an electronics engineer so my field is somewhat more accepting of “provable” science as most of us agree on basic math and physics principles the world over. Medicine however, seems to differ from expert to expert as humans differ from body to body and new discoveries are made yearly, even daily sometimes which renders medicine a practice. That makes certain medical science a bit more subjective as we are all realizing the more this pandemic rages on.

    Thank you for listening and keep up the good work.

    -Selarohm

  313. @mulga mumblebrain

    The situation today is different. We are not at the end of a glacial period, but the Holocene inter-glacial. We ought to be slowly cooling, but are not,

    The situation is exactly as it ever was, and we are cooling since the Holocene Optimum, and the cooling is accelerating in the late Holocene:

    But according to the Global Warming religion, we are going to fry ourselves off the planet. Not a chance, what happens next is glacial inception, accelerated cooling. Proof that CO2 has no effect are the 75 global warming models that fail to predict temperature. They are all based on the assumption that CO2 warms, but since it does not, temperatures do not conform to the “experts” (really they are idiots with PhDs)

    This epic fail is not limited to the global warming hoax as we can see most doctors have been taken in by the Covid hoax. Scientists and medical doctors are also subject to group think herding and political pressures. When money is involved, the professional often take sides with the funded narrative, not the more controversial politically incorrect one.

    The media is paid propaganda, and people have figured out that the media lies about everything. CNN lost 90% of it’s viewers in the past year, so now it has a new owner billionaire media mogul John Malone, who just recently said:

    “I would like to see CNN evolve back to the kind of journalism that it started with, and actually have journalists, which would be unique and refreshing,”

    It is not surprising there are no journalists at CNN, CNN is a Jewish Zionist Mossad propaganda outlet, spewing Jew hate for white Goyim, and they lied their asses off about Climate Change and Global Warming. The public has been branded with climate nonsense, the average person takes it as gospel that CO2 warms when it does not. What people think has no bearing on reality, most people think Arabs did 911 when that terrorist attack was 100% Israeli production.

    Dissolved CO2 in oceans is gigantic compared to the atmosphere:

    The idea that a trace gas controls earth’s temperature is absurd on the face of it. It’s a big atmosphere with an even bigger ocean below being controlled by solar output, orbital cycles, solar cycles, etc. CO2 ain’t got nothing to do with earth’s thermal balance. Every day it warms and every night all that heat gained radiates out to space. Without the sun the planet’s surface would freeze solid in a matter of weeks – yet these global warming lunatics refuse to even consider that the sun is the primary factor in earth’s temperature!

    Zeller and Nikolov curve predicts a planet’s temperature precisely, it is based on the distance from the sun and the atmospheric pressure regardless of atmospheric components:

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  314. denk says:

    Prince Philip:

    “In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.”

    Eugenics, depopulation have always been the wet dream of western elites

    Eric Pianka [Dr Doom]

    War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world’s population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. “We’ve got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. “You know, the bird flu’s good, too. For everyone who survives, he will have to bury nine

    Barbara Hubbard [US army think tank]

    Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one-fourth is electing to transcend.
    One-fourth is destructive [and] they are defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a ‘natural death.’
    Now as we approach the quantum shift from the creature-human to the co-creative human — the human who is an inheritor of god-like powers — the destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body.
    Fortunately, you are not responsible for this act.
    We are.
    We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth.
    He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.’

    jp FM Taro Aso on useless eaters…

    “Heaven forbid if you are forced to live on when you want to die. I would wake up feeling increasingly bad knowing that [treatment] was all being paid for by the government,” Aso, himself 72, said. “The problem won’t be solved unless you let them hurry up and die.”

    No wonder jp are bestowed the honorable white men status.

    Great men think alike…

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  315. @Yukon Jack

    In this midst of the greatest forcing of greenhouse gases for at least 55 million years, this Dunning-Kruger cretin declares that ‘ ..the situation is exactly as it ever was..’. So for this malignant buffoon, conditions on Earth NEVER change, everything is ‘..as it ever was’, forever. You can see where this comes from, what sewers of the human psyche spewed this particular invertebrate.
    Then, after more unattributed BULLSHIT and lies, it starts raving about climate science being the work of the Jews, Zionism and Mossad. What a poisonous insect this is. This is a death-cult, an operation by the fossil fuel interests and Rightwing ideologues to recruit the dumbest, most credulous, vicious enemies of Life on Earth, and feed them unscientific, irrational, crap, that scum like this swallows whole then regurgitates all over humanity. PEAK EVIL.

  316. @denk

    Phil the Greek died last year-be very afraid. He’s coming back! As for mass slaughter, genetic engineering makes the use of ‘natural’ diseases redundant, as the USA’s chimaeric virus, SARS CoV2 shows. Even easier are ‘vaccines’ that either kill incrementally as ever greater numbers of boosters are forced on the proles, or which render a considerable proportion of females sterile, or unable to bring a pregnancy to term.
    Rather more -I hesitate to say ‘humane’-is to end poverty, educate humanity, emancipate women and see the human population slowly decrease. But that is anathema to the Abrahamic cults, and their swinish offspring like capitalism and liberalism, which all sup deep from the ancestral Judaic hatred of the Other, and the lust to destroy them, to please their psychopathic ‘God’.

    • Agree: DevilAdvocate
    • Replies: @denk
  317. @Bill Jones

    They are not known to be soaked in anything. They are lights in the sky which they make some impressive and unfounded assumptions about.

  318. The thing about denialist morons, apart from their moral Evil, which will NOT go unpunished, is their thick-headed obstinacy

    Spoken like a true priest, calling someone a ‘denialist’ is the hallmark of faith. You are a card carrying member of a global warming cult based on media lies, bribes, fake science, falsified reports. But you believe no matter what the evidence because for any cult member belief is more important than facts.

    CO2 follows temperature just in case you don’t know LOL

    CO2 follows temperature chart, first it warms, then CO2 in the atmosphere goes up

    Then instead of discussing the evidence you go off on irrational tirades demonizing your adversary, which proves you have no argument. You actually think a trace gas forces temperature, that is so absurd it is laughable. There is not one shred of evidence that CO2 has ever forced temperature.

    In this midst of the greatest forcing of greenhouse gases for at least 55 million years

    18,000 years ago, at the end of peak glaciation, CO2 was the lowest in earth history, below 180 ppm and the earth started warming. Do you understand this at the lowest CO2 ever the earth warmed? Then with a 800 year lag CO2 went up with warming – because as the ocean warm the dissolved CO2 comes out of solution just like a can of soda pop losing it’s CO2 on a hot summer day.

    Al Gore will live in infamy for getting his causality backwards, CO2 follows temperature:

    You have to be very dense not to understand what is presented in the chart above, CO2 follows temperature, it does not force temperature. First the planet warms, the oceans warm, then the massive amount of dissolved CO2 comes out of the water and finds equilibrium in the atmosphere. That is how it actually works, not the other way around. CO2 has never forced temperature.

    Al Gore claimed the opposite, but we all know Al Gore is a put up job and moron who has no science background. You are like Greta Thunberg, that flunky teenager who never actually studied the subject, is just emotionally activated by media branding, in a panic over falsified claims and fake science. If you can not intellectually defend your viewpoint, and resort to ad hominen and name calling and get emotionally upset with facts then you are emotionally trapped in a faith based religion.

    CO2 has never warmed the planet, it has never forced temperature and anyone who thinks this is just plain wrong. Worrying about CO2 at 400 ppm is actually crazy because CO2 below 200 ppm is deadly, plants die below 200 ppm, and they did die in the late Pleistocene because CO2 was down to 140 ppm.

  319. FifthDim says:

    At current population, if each human got 1 acre of land the whole world population could live in Australia. and roughly a third of the world’s food is wasted. That’s about 1.3 billion tons a year. The world loses an astounding quantity of food every year.
    I thing these figures tell a different story, don’t they.

  320. @Commentator Mike

    I would totally agree with everything you have said in response and did not mean to compare them to animals just speaking on their concept of property ownership. It is like how people always used to say Manhattan was purchased for \$24 dollars worth of beads. Adjusted for inflation that is probably \$10 million and rising, lol. But that is because people misunderstand the native populations did not really think they were giving anything away. Their understanding was an agreement to share this particular area with the white settlers. So when Indians were seen hopping a fence and helping themselves to a couple chickens or a pig there arose misunderstandings. This I have been told is where the concept of an indian giver comes from. Someone who gives something but then takes it back. So greedy Europeans no doubt quickly grasped that these people had a different concept of ownership and used that as an excuse to grab up their territory. But what was even more egregious is where the white settlers literally broke treaties that had legal standing. This is called theft pure and simple. Eminent domain is a newer form of theft used on everyone. Our governments absolutely don’t respect property rights. How about gold confiscation? Palestine, etc. On and on it goes. The problem is not property rights it is not respecting them.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  321. The confusion is just the byproduct of non stop propaganda for the last 70 years. What do you all expect? It has completely fractured this country.

  322. Geowhizz says:
    @Emslander

    A rational evidence based approach? Where you been?

  323. Geowhizz says:
    @Yukon Jack

    Gore’s just pushing an agenda – make money fighting a war. On climate change this time. What a novel concept. Sort of rhymes.
    The ice core data are rather inconvenient for the war fighting narrative. Climate models running on super-fast super computers are essential for the war mongers pitch. Maybe stop plate tectonics too? Earthquakes be gone.🤪

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  324. @FifthDim

    All the estimates of Austfailia’s land area in acres give a figure of c.1.9 billion. Do you really think that is the global population? And, believe me, a lot of Austfalia is pretty inhospitable to settlement.

    • Replies: @FifthDim
  325. @Yukon Jack

    I see-joannanova. A nice little racket she’s got. Should come back to bite her soon. You see, as the global climate and weather destabilise and extremes of heat, cold (for a while), drought, flood, storms, megafires, crop failures, hunger, even famine etc proliferate, as they are most certainly doing, the proles are going to wake up.
    When they realise that, yes, climate destabilisation is real, just as the scientists said, but now it’s too late, and billions are going to die, including, possibly, their children and grand-children, what do you think they’ll be thinking of the denialists?
    Now I imagine a few will practice forebearance and forgiveness of sin, but I doubt that they will be that many, given the human capacity for vengefulness. As things get ‘tropical’ for the Big Liars, some will try turning States’ Evidence, and ratting out their co-conspirators, leaking documents and appealing to the authorities for clemency. Like what happened with tobacco, but with the public MUCH more agitated. Who’d be a hard-core denialist then, eh? I know you’re just a very low-level invertebrate, but I’d start practising my excuses, if I were you. As long as society holds together there’ll be a justice system to protect you, but after that..Who knows?

  326. @Geowhizz

    If there was money in it, and Rightwing ideologues pushing the agenda, I’d expect denialist imbeciles to deny plate tectonics, too. The combination of pig ignorance, stupidity, laughable arrogance and ideological fanaticism is intractable and ineducable.

  327. @FifthDim

    FifthDim – Here is another statistic for you, re: the “overpopulation problem” – if EVERYONE in the world was grouped into “families” of SIX people and given average sizes of houses on average sized pieces of land, they could ALL fit into the state of Texas – WITH LAND LEFT OVER. I did the math!

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  328. anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yukon Jack

    >told my children

    >to not breed

    Maybe you should have taken your own advice, lol.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  329. anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Peak oil was another scarcity con but for the sake of argument lets say we run out tomorrow. So what? Coal can be used as fuel (diesel) and the US alone has enough coal to last another three hundred years. Energy scarcity like all the other “sky is falling” propaganda jammed down our throats 24×7 is just more fear porn.

  330. Burning coal is genocide, and there are still many willing genocidaires about, so long as there is a buck in it.

  331. @anon

    His parents should have. They brought something VERY nassty into this world.

  332. @Brad Anbro

    No doubt about it-you are the Sixth Dim. The dimmest of all.

    • Replies: @Brad Anbro
  333. @mulga mumblebrain

    As my dear mother used to tell me – “It takes one to know one”

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  334. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Phil the Greek died last year-be very afraid. He’s coming back!

    The Royals disdain for chinaman are well known.
    Charles once joked with some pom in China that if they remained there too long they’d become like the slant
    He also pointedly snubbed a state banquet for Hu Jin Tao.

    Whom do u think Philip the virus would like to cull ?

    This might be the clue…

    https://www.unz.com/article/how-envy-causes-racial-conflict/#comment-5022702

    • Replies: @denk
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  335. Skeptikal says:
    @Steven80

    Agree. Bezos is a jackass with no grasp of reality..
    A very limited grasp. Like maybe that of a 14-year-old boy.

    It is too bad because with that \$14 billion he could have bought up and preserved forever vast regions of planet Earth and helped rebalance the oxygen/CO2 balance of the atmosphere. He could have supported reforestation programs that would help with this rebalancing. He could have funded a nonprofit whose mission is actually to initiate and guide an honest dialogue about the choices planet Earth and H. sapiens faces as human continue to draw down every asset of Earth and destroy their own habitat in the process.

    There is so much positive he could do, if he weren’t an adolescent asshole preoccupied with his penis. BTW, does he have any progeny?

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  336. Skeptikal says:
    @Alden

    The Green Revolution—wasn’t that a Rockefeller project?

    Very bad idea, from an ecological point of view. Tampering with natural ecological processes, whereby a region’s carrying capacity regulates the number of humans (and other animals) who can live there.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  337. Skeptikal says:
    @PetrOldSack

    “I had to wait for fifteen years to see a-n-y-o-n-e(to my severely limited knowledge) incentivizing the grander public with a flash of oversight.”

    There are plenty of good thinkers out there who have done this

    You can start with William Catton, “Overshoot.”

    While reading “Overshoot” you can check out the many sources Catton lists at the end of each chapter and his clear explanatory notes.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  338. denk says:
    @denk

    Prince Philip and Sir Attenborough both think that humans are plague , they should die off and make way for them poor animals…….not the whites tho, the other humans that is.

    https://exposingbabylon.wordpress.com/2013/09/19/david-attenborough-stop-feeding-third-world-nations-to-reduce-population/

  339. @denk

    The Anglosphere Five Eyes are united in race hatred of China. New Zealand lags, but Austfailia is in the midst of a psychopathic frenzy of race hatred, for its leading trade partner. The two leading Parties are vying with each other in asserting their loathing of the ‘CCP’, and accusing the other of being ‘Manchurian Candidate’ traitors. To live in a country led by Evil, morally insane, racists, is quite an experience.

    • Replies: @denk
  340. @Skeptikal

    He could have funded a nonprofit whose mission is actually to initiate and guide an honest dialogue about the choices planet Earth and H. sapiens faces as human continue to draw down every asset of Earth and destroy their own habitat in the process.

    Do you see the anomaly, the outright contradiction in your argument? One cannot be a capitalist extortionist, mine the larger population by depriving it of access to hard resources, then build within the systemics of society a “solution” as to make further exploitation acceptable to the dumbstruck masses.

    There is only these incentives to foundations and ngos: parking, evading, obscuring real wealth, tax-exemptions, evading taxes on heritage, political activism, influence mongering, feeding unproductive middle classes with duck morsels at the pond(jobs), and most importantly sedating the masses as to what the power circles are up to.

    Billy Gates must be your hero? He is not like Bezos? Is he funding all-right as publicly advertized?

    Try to peal at the least this layer of confusion of your eyes. One cannot be part of the steering of systemics and pretend to the contrary. There is always the possibility your comment is just paid advert. If so, my apologies pointing you to what should be obvious.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  341. At current population, if each human got 1 acre of land the whole world population could live in Australia. and roughly a third of the world’s food is wasted. That’s about 1.3 billion tons a year. The world loses an astounding quantity of food every year.
    I thing these figures tell a different story, don’t they.

    These are sound arguments. If they can be fed(humans), they must be had(humans). Since technology means robotics, since technological society means growing divides between the few and every-body else, these arguments double in value. Feeding our newly arrivals would be the only thing left to interact with them. Very much “The way of the horse”. Alas keeping humans as pets, and feeding them, not much else left to do for them, even offering them unproductive jobs would create overhead on resources, on planetary biodiversity, on their own comfort and space/time bulbs.

    This is what China and Russia are about to offer: another burst of “growth”. Yes we can, that is why we want, that is what soothes our individual and collective instincts of preservation. Are we not happy monkeys?

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  342. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    damn right.

    Anglo saxon obsession with the yellow horde is pathological.

    Churchill was best known for his comment on the battle of Britain..

    Never have so many owe so much to so few

    Less known is his chilling final solution for the yellow peril...

    I think we shall have to take the Chinese in hand and regulate them. I believe that as civilized nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations. I believe in the ultimate partition of China—I mean ultimate. I hope we shall not have to do it in our day. The Aryan stock is bound to triumph.

    [1]

    Rings a bell ?
    UNZ is crawling with white supremacists who openly call for the genocide of the Han rats, locusts, dogs, vermin, coolies…..

    [1]
    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/12/18/chinese-aggression-is-just-china-responding-to-us-aggression/

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  343. Skeptikal says:
    @PetrOldSack

    Your response is quite dumb.

    In fact, you yourself sound pretty limited.

    First, you really must polish up your English

    Then, you need to educate yourself.
    You can start with the tip I gave you earlier, just for a useful analytical framework.

    Finally, do NOT place words in others’ mouths, or impute ideas to them that are conjured up in your own murky old sack of a mind such as “Gates must be your hero.”

    This apercu probably strikes you as brilliant.

    Jesus.

    One more to avoid here.

  344. Skeptikal says:
    @PetrOldSack

    “At current population, if each human got 1 acre of land the whole world population could live in Australia.”

    Yeah. Brilliant.
    No water in most of Australia.
    It is dumbass “thinking” like this that has landed H. sapiens where he finds himself today—namely, on the brink of massive die-off. Probably not total extinction.

    Long before climate change “gets” us, we will have exhausted the capacity of the planet to support us and our extravagant life style. Furthermore, it is likely that our last major drawdown of minerals and energy will be wasted on fighting wars, thereby further degrading our habitat and consigning large swaths of humanity to brutish ends.

    The success of biowarfare in culling the population, whether engineered by humans against one another or by nature, depends on high population densities.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  345. dd121 says:

    When populations hits the carrying capacity wall, they don’t drop back to 95%, they drop back to 5 or 10%. This problem will at least partially solve itself in a few decades. It may not be pretty.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  346. @Skeptikal

    Again i fully agree with your comment. I will polish my writing, — then there is such a thing as sarcasm. That mostly regards polishing scanning and eventually reading text.

  347. @denk

    Congratulations, you willingly opened the gate and placed yourself in the mud pit next to Mulga. Now when you smell the stench, you can blame the one wallowing next to you. Us evil racists hate China so much we bought over 500 billion dollars of goods from them last year. China is an economic rival to the west, that is why there is anti-China rhetoric from western leaders and politicians. At least you have shown yourself to not be a part of the Illuminati, because they don’t take nitwits that are already members of the unilluminated.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    , @denk
  348. @Luus Kanin

    Loos Kanon, the rulers of the West hate China AND the Chinese, commo, neo-liberal or prelapsarian, because those Westerners are RACISTS. They believe themselves to be ‘Gods Upon the Earth’ whose domination, that archetypal Western ambition, MUST last forever, and in every nook and cranny on the planet, and, one day, God willing, throughout the cosmos.
    Chinese success and basic decency, seeking harmony within their society and between societies, is anathema to the Western ‘Gods’. Hence the DERANGED hate-mongering, Satanic false accusations, constant lying, pathetic attempts at intimidation and unceasing subversion. Very much as expected, the local Labor Party Opposition’s compliance with the Anglosphere campaign of aggression and abuse has bought them no plaudits. The ‘intelligence’ apparatus, totally controlled by the USA, has joined with the ruling regime, much on the nose after nine years of malignant incompetence, race and class hatred driven social sadism, lying and corruption, to commence a campaign to paint Labor as traitors, full of ‘Manchurian Candidates’ controlled by the dread CCP. The Murdoch cancer is, naturally, in full carpet-chewing hysteria, spewing hate and lies, as ever. Down and down we go, the bottom, if it exists, nowhere in sight.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Luus Kanin
  349. @dd121

    In a population of deer, of course. In a population dominated by psychopathic apes armed with nukes, the drop back will be to ZERO.

  350. @Brad Anbro

    Brad, I knew your mother. Your mother was my friend. Brad, you are, indeed, a mother…

  351. sulu says:
    @Commentator Mike

    If they’re implementing a depopulation agenda why are they sending relief to famine and disaster stricken Third World countries with the greatest population growth rates and replacing low TFR European natives with high TFR Muslim and other high TFR Third World immigrants?

    Because part of the Jewish agenda is to destroy the White race. This can most easily be accomplished by allowing unlimited immigration of non Whites into White countries. White women are now, for the most part, stupid promiscuous self absorbed whores whose only desire is to ride the cock carousel. A million black cocks will destroy the White race more surely than bombs. And it’s quieter too. All that will be heard is the moaning of all the White sluts that are too stupid to realize that they are destroying their own race. The resulting mulattos will be smarter than the average black but more stupid than the average White. This makes them more easy to control than pure Whites but probably not as unmanageable as pure blacks.

    Sulu

  352. @sulu

    By in-migration the power class has the following(additional) goals: creating extra “finance” cycles. People, bringing them in, is augmenting the secure barrier between power circles, their blob of elite “useless” eaters, and the masses already present. Bringing human cattle in amounts to a costs advantage as compared to export energy and cheap food to remote destinations(Africa, India etc.). In-migrants “smurfing” –a term used in the eighties and ninety s during the folkloric war on drugs– of dollars is creating markets for dollars, dollar presence for the raped(by finance) currency in the abroads, at the least in the short term better parasyting money flows.

    By making the overhead to control their own rackets smaller, as such(hard, real world maritime and rail, plain and truck transport of goods and resources is delegated to the metaverse) . That burden made smaller can be invested(into goons, alas dependent middle classes) to additional control of their environment, the only piece of the pie that is of importance. The elites as such gain in the short term. They might also gain in the long term: the derivative effect on breeding and consumption at the remote side can now be throttled as to needs. Effects are beginning to show, the “science” on these novel methods are not dead certain. It is proven to be better then colonialism and starting to be compared to empire models as of the efficiency.

    Example, –and that is why Russia is lagging behind in the long run– it would be “cheaper” including ecologically, and better attending the agenda of depopulation, to “sell”, the natural gas that leaks up to the surface(ultimately it would export itself) to populations within “Greater Russia”. Since the burdens and costs of exporting resources compares negatively to importing people(in case Western Europa and Mercedes would be a de facto part of Greater Russia as one more example). If there is anything to compare it to, it would be a modern day slave trade, a layered approach as to throttle work forces, control the local populations @remote and @destiny/local, and be a more efficient throttle of populations. —The internal variable of breeding for specifics, culling, in the future(the vaxxing is mostly test runs) would definitely be advanced also.

    The only ones that must keep their uncontrolled mobility and agility, crossing borders, territories , and political, economical(hard trade), military boundaries, would be the global elites, and all “struggle”(as compared to circuses in the public domain) would be the infighting within their own larger group. “Who wacks who?”

    This is a comment, not an analysis that spans even most of the arguments. A fife minute sketch on a napkin(modern day napkins are desastreous). Feel free to assume the idea and turn it into books and videos, so the masses can stay busy on their portable porn theaters(smart –thinking for their borrowers– phones). Some outside the small bulb of knowing insiders, the outliers in desolate territory might even take advantage of it. See it –the comment– as a bird seed in the dung pile.

  353. @sulu

    Yes I know that. But replacing whites with immigrants in white countries would raise the TFR, and hence no depopulation even in white countries, other than of the whites. The OP was saying there is a global depopulation agenda in progress and I was saying I don’t see it. Not yet!

  354. FifthDim says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Well, then a normal quarter of an acre will make you happy. I am afraid you didn’t get my point. I expected a comment regarding the billions of TONS, yes, TONS of food that is wasted every year.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  355. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:

    By the time space colonies are established, we will be in the midst of the sixth extinction, and the human population will have been considerably reduced. Earth’s ecosystem will be in recovery and become a nature reserve that the elites from space use as a vacation resort

    No way would these bastards leave nature alone. They are anti-nature. Why do you think they sought so hard to weaken and domesticate the Germanic pagans and destroy their way of life which required nothing to do with plague infested civilization? These people possess no harmony with nature because they are overly-socialized parasites who cannot and will not work with/in nature. Nature to them is only a resource to plunder and a blight in the way of their abstract utopian reality of Zion. They want a living head-space where such things as equality and currency and prophecy exists. An entirely fictional utopia where weak is strong, ugly is beautiful and mentally ill psychopaths are wise. If they ever possess the capability to actually live off of this planet they will leave it as an ash-heap and roll out their updated myth about Zion having destroyed a demonic entity.

  356. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:

    That metaverse is the Cube. Black Cube. Just like they wear right there on their forehead. Just like that Black Cube in Mecca and that Cube called the Cross which was only opened long enough to trap you inside it.

  357. @FifthDim

    A quarter acre of the Tanami Desert? No thanks! Plenty of feral cat, if you like that. Your point about food wastage is well observed, but, as is your want, a trifle exaggerated. I believe it is about ONE billion tons, enough for ending hunger.

  358. ProfK says:
    @Franklin Ryckaert

    The banking/corporate elites have been using CIA/DOD/CDC & pharma to reduce populations in any country with oil or mineral resources they want to control. There are 1500 CDC/CIA/DOD biolabs in 25 “cooperating countries” where “private” US corporations are weaponizing pathogens/viruses and devising new methods for dispersal (nano drones, GM’d mosquitoes, etc.). There are 16 labs in Ukraine; but the primary hub is the Lugar Center in Tbilisi Georgia. Obama first ordered the weaponization of Supervirus #9 (coronavirus) during his term in office; and work was completed at the Univ of NC, Wuhan Virology, and in a CIA/CDC/DOD lab. Luc Montagnier stated that all 75 strands of the virus they produced could be identified as “lab created” because they all had injects of HIV.
    Most recently, Metabiota worked with Wuhan on coronavirus from the Lugar Center. Metabiota also happened to be researching ebola in the Sierra Leone biolab as the outbreak occurred a few years ago. The labs have weaponized anthrax, yellow fever, hemorrhagic fever, coronavirus, MERS, Measles, H1N1 (rumored to be the next one that will be released), and more.
    There wasn’t any real threat from covid in the US; but the vaccines will continue expanding the number of individuals with autoimmune, heart disease, neurodegenerative diseases, etc., and cancer diagnoses have increased 20-fold. Similarly, pathologists have determined that cancers accelerate rapidly in those who were vaccinated.
    We do not know, however, if other forms of coronavirus were released elsewhere; but I find the rapid deaths of Luc Montagnier and other notable anti-vaccine protestors from “a particularly virulent strain of COVID” suspicious.
    CIA/DOD have also decimated populations with the use of nuclear weapons/devices/ordinance in Iraq, Afghan, Syria, Bosnia, etc., also exposing over 3 million US troops. Troops were also injected with anthrax vaccine manufactured by Walter Reed with squalene added as an adjuvant–despite it being associated with neurodegenerative diseases/autoimmune, and more. They were also given Mefloquine vaccine, which has caused ptsd symptoms and suicides. According to Maj Doug Rokke who investigated conditions in Iraq (recorded in Beyond Treason), approximately 70% of Iraq veterans had fathered a baby with serious deformities/illnesses related to enriched uranium. Bush, Rumsfeld, David Rockefeller, Tenet and Cheney wanted the entire populations in Iraq/Afghan to die off from radiation. They did not want veterans coming home sick for 30+ years collecting benefits from the VA either, hence the vaccines and troops being given Cipro. They wanted them coming home with a “variety of illnesses from unnameable causes.”
    Clearly, with so many options at their disposal and unlimited funds available, they can potentially eradicate as many people as they want.
    “The Pentagon Bio-Weapons.” dilyana.bg
    “Censored, Hacked, Banned: New Bombs and War Crimes in Fallujah.” Veteranstoday.com

  359. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Loos Kanon

    LOL

    Scratch an anglo elite or wn you’d find a white supremacist underneath.

    Sir Bertrand Russell and his final solution for those pesky asiatic, read chinaman.

    But bad times, you may say, are exceptional, and can be dealt with by exceptional methods. This has been more or less true during the honeymoon period of industrialism, but it will not remain true unless the increase of population can be enormously diminished. At present the population of the world is increasing at about 58,000 per diem. War, so far, has had no very great effect on this increase, which continued through each of the world wars…. War … has hitherto been disappointing in this respect … but perhaps bacteriological war may prove more effective. If a Black Death could spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full…. The state of affairs might be somewhat unpleasant, but what of it? Really high-minded people are indifferent to happiness, especially other people’s.
    –{The Impact of Science on Society} (1953)

    The white population of the world will soon cease to increase. The Asiatic races will be longer, and the negroes still longer, before their birth rate falls sufficiently to make their numbers stable without help of war and pestilence…. Until that happens, the benefits aimed at by socialism can only be partially realized, and the less prolific races will have to defend themselves against the more prolific by methods which are disgusting even if they are necessary.

    Rings a bell ?

    The elites have reached a consensus…

    ‘pesky chinaman need to be culled before they overwhelm the aryan race….preferably by means of bacterial wars cuz wars aint that effective !’

    no doubt Those wn white supremacists at URN would agree..

    http://www.schillerinstitut.dk/climatelies/philip.html

  360. @mulga mumblebrain

    Mulga, Westerners are not racist, they are tribal, just like every other group of people on the planet. People identify with their group. If you are not in the in group, then you are in the out group, meaning you don’t have the in groups best interests in mind, therefore you are competition to the safety and security of the in group. This is the nature of man since the beginning, tribal competition. Calling someone racist because they prefer a group they feel the most safe, secure, and comfortable in is just idiocy.

    If this is racism, then every single person, no matter which race, is racist. This means the stigma of contempt flung at a so called racist is just to dismiss a person and have them cower while timidly pleading “I am not a racist”. Please don’t resort to that, it just shows a lack of confidence to make a solid case. Be like Avis and try harder.

    ” Chinese success and basic decency, seeking harmony within their society and between societies”

    You can’t be serious with this, can you? Pick a Dynastic period of China, Ming, Qing, Song, Tang, etc., and the one thing they all have in common is endless war and conflict. They weren’t hanging out in San Francisco with flowers in their hair. Didn’t Sun Tzu write “The Art of War”? Maybe he got that racist Miltiades to ghost write it for him.

    That is kind of a long time ago, how about more recent in history, Mao killing an estimated 60 million of his own people. I guess maybe you just want to talk about the wonderful peace loving CCP. Did they not kill a couple of hundred thousand land owners and steal their land during Land Reform? Did they not kill over 3 million people during the Suppression of Counter Revolutionaries? Did they not kill over 2 million intellectuals? Did they not starve to death over 30 million of their own people?

    Just so this is not all one sided, the Chinese do make a great Peking Roasted Duck, and I do use gunpowder on a regular basis.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    , @denk
  361. @denk

    Have a care, commoner. That’s LORD Russell to the likes of you. Any chance that Bertie was being tongue-in-cheek?

    • Replies: @denk
  362. @Luus Kanin

    Loos, you can’t speak for ALL Westerners. Many Western leaders and elites were and are plainly racist and civilizational supremacists, as well as avid class haters, misogynists, homophobes, religious bigots etc. It comes with the territory.
    As for races, I’m out of the conversation. I believe in ONE race, the human race. People who feel comfortable with their own ‘tribe’ and home are pretty normal, I would say, but once they start asserting some sort of superiority over others, they lose me. Hence my lack of great affection for Jews, save for their iconoclasts and non-conformists, or for the KKK, the Hindutva fanatics, Wahhabists, Banderites, Exceptionalists etc.
    I was talking of the Chinese ideal, which they often achieved, and have achieved again, at present, despite insane Western opposition. Of course, when harmony in a society breaks down, havoc reigns, and the Chinese do chaos very well. But they generally, apart from Mao in his dotage, attempt to avoid ‘Chaos Under Heaven’.
    Mao didn’t ‘kill’ 60 million. That is propaganda baloney. He’d have to be a busy boy, wouldn’t he. The Land Reform excesses were driven by the peasantry after generations of exploitation, and the CPC sought to reduce the carnage. The land was not ‘stolen’ -there was a restitution to the producers, the peasants, away from the land-lord parasites. You seem to identify with the blood-suckers, not their victims.

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  363. @denk

    Denk, I wasn’t going to respond to you until Mulga taught you how to tie your shoes, but since you mentioned my name in a disdainful manner, I will respond. Your post suggested that because Ms. Lee’s memorial was vandalized, that somehow meant Americans hate Asians. It sure is convenient to not notice which Americans specifically murdered her and damaged her memorial.

    Just so you know, it was the porch monkey community. The media is doing everything it can to make sure that we do not learn who the actual culprits of this Asian hate epidemic are. Better to frame it white supremacy. That is a laugh.

    I grew up in an urban jungle. I had several Asian friends that I met in the advanced classes in school. The classes were populated by Asians and Whites. I have worked with more Asians than I can count, and as a general rule, they were great people. Had Ms. Lee approached me for help with the tree swinger, you can be sure I would have made sure that he would not be doing anything in the future.

    You look forward to when there are less white people in the world. Some would say that is racist, but I am not one of them, I say it is tribal, and it is natural to think that way.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  364. denk says:
    @Luus Kanin

    kiddo
    This is racism in a nutshell

    I dont believe our official story but I do when it comes to china

    Tucker Carlson epitomize the above psychosis yet he’s the go to man for gringo ‘wn‘, nuff said.

    Hmmm
    YOu swallow those cold war psyop about MAO the butcher hook line and sinker, makes one wonder ?

    That is kind of a long time ago, how about more recent in history

    The warring dynasties happened thousands of years ago,
    How about something current and …
    verifiable. ?

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article204021.html

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  365. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    tongue in cheek ?

    No way buddy.

    In good ole pommy tradition, Blair the butcher of Iraq had been awarded with a knighthood !

    U just cant make this shit up.

  366. denk says:
    @Luus Kanin

    forchrissake
    where’ve your ilks been during these past three years when Trump, Morison, JOhnson and all that five liars media told the black [and the whites] that they’r the victims of that ‘chinese virus’.

    u dont think that had any bearing on the explosion of hate crimes against Chinese all over the world, never mind FUS. ?

    you mentioned my name in a disdainful manner

    COUrtesy of mulga but I do concur ,-)

    What did u call me btw ?

    nitwit

    Confucius sez

    Its very rude not to return a favor

  367. @Luus Kanin

    Loos, do you really think that referring to ‘Black’ people as ‘tree swingers’ and ‘porch monkeys’ redounds to your good reputation?

    • Agree: denk
    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  368. @denk

    Sir Bertrand Russell and his final solution…

    But he pointed too:

    Of these three [methods of population control], only birth control avoids extreme cruelty and unhappiness for the majority of human beings.

    Anyway, he also states:

    Meanwhile, so long as there is not a single world government there will be competition for power among the different nations.

    These considerations prove that a scientific world society cannot be stable unless there is a world government.

    This also rings a bell…

    But the ideas have their logic.
    Without a single government, or at least a common strategic plan, based on cooperation rather than competition and elimination of opponents, the depopulation methods will invariably create a lot of suffering.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    , @denk
  369. @Maowasayali

    And here I thought they were a flash mob of jesters.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
  370. @mulga mumblebrain

    Mulga, you are correct, I cannot speak for all westerners, just as you can’t when you say all western rulers are racist. I am not a ruler, so I refer to the common folk in America only, which I have first hand knowledge of. You can always find an exception, but the narrative that America is a racist nation intent on keeping black people down, and white supremacy is responsible for the attacks on Asians, is tiresome. Only idiots and preschoolers believe this nonsense.

    Every time someone says look, see who is attacking Asians, you turn your head in the opposite direction to make sure you don’t notice. Why is that? Why are you so afraid of getting down to brass tacks, other than it interferes with your world view?

    You are right again when you say I do not know that Mao killed 60 million of his own people, maybe we have been lied to. I wish I could say that I believe official narratives, but we have been inundated with lies for so long, that I hopped the fence a long time ago. Maybe it is just made up, kind of like the Holocaust lie made up by our Zionist friends.

    You are mistaken when you say Land Reform excesses were driven by the peasantry, and the CCP sought to reduce the carnage. The CCP used Land Reform to indoctrinate the peasants to accept communism, and to steal the land. The CCP then gave the peasants the land in collectives. Who controls the collectives? Oh, coincidentally, it just happens to be the CCP.

    “You seem to identify with the blood-suckers, not their victims”

    Please do not assume that because I make a case against racism roarers that I somehow seek to excuse our leaders decision making. The simple fact is, America has transformed from a Constitutional Republic to a Plutocracy. We think our vote matters, when in reality it doesn’t matter who we vote for, whoever represents us is already bought and paid for. Our leaders are not motivated by racism, but by money. We are told we fight our wars for democracy, to save the children, for truth, justice, and the American way, but every war we have been in is purely economic exploitation of whoever we conquer.

    I consider myself a realist, I am not wedded to some utopian fantasy of Kum Ba Ya, nor to the thought that my people are superior. I just prefer people that have similar values to me, just as I would expect other people with different backgrounds to have a different viewpoint.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    , @denk
  371. @Maowasayali

    I ate shit for years already. Several Jewish bosses.

    • LOL: Maowasayali
  372. @Jack Sparrow

    “Johns” Hopkins. Do you have a source? Thanks —

  373. @Luus Kanin

    Have you read Fanshen, by Hinton? I did, long ago, after ‘Red Star over China’, so my views were shaped by that. The land reform process was far too varied in time and place to give it the simplistic, Orientalist, Sinophobic label of ‘Mao killed etc’.
    The land was NOT ‘stolen’ either-it was returned to the people, its rightful owners, although, more correctly, I believe, the people belong to the land. You are correct however, that I have little time for those who do not share my world view, even though I have learned a lot, but only incrementally, from some of them over the years. However, most of those with world views such as (forgive me), land returned to peasants from rich land-owners was ‘Stolen’, do not share my weltanschuuang at all.

    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  374. @mulga mumblebrain

    Mulga, please don’t interpret my description of some black people as tree swingers and porch monkeys as that I consider all black people to fit that description. I only refer to the ones that are tree swingers and porch monkeys, violent, low IQ ghetto blacks in America. I would not expect you to understand, because no one can understand unless they are fortunate enough to have a closeup interaction with them over a long period of time.

    Guess who has called me honkey, redneck, snow white, peckerwood, hillbilly, hick, flower bag, cracker, etc., simply because of the color of my skin? When I was young, I tried to ignore the elephant in the room, but as I got older, experience robbed me of a kind of prelapsarian innocence. I decided that staying alive was more important than hoping for the best from these people.

    Guess who I have had more physical fights with than I can remember? Guess who has tried to rob me numerous times? Guess who has tried to stab me numerous times? Guess who tried to kidnap me when I was ten years old, that I had to fight for my life to escape from? Guess who actually kidnapped me when I was eighteen years old when I stupidly accepted a ride when my car broke down? I am sure you don’t want to guess, because it is better to be able to just make a judgement that people that use so called bad racist words are worthy of contempt.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  375. @DevilAdvocate

    Russell’s ideas changed a lot over the decades. As for world government, it is, in my opinion, essential, at least in regard to global issues such as aggression, human welfare, ecological collapse etc. The current system where one grotesque, but dying, hyper-power, the USA, run by Evil psychopaths, most these days drawn from one tiny, ethnically and religiously exclusive, cabal, with a posse of similar colonialist thugs, the Five Eyes, in close attendance, and other Western elitist powers towing the line, seeks to continue its Full Spectrum Dominance over ALL humanity, FOREVER, is terminal, omnicidal and demented. The Chinese offer some prospect of an harmonious, ‘win-win’, global order, but the Western racist psychopaths are DETERMINED, come what may, to destroy it, so, in my opinion, our fate is sealed. It long has been, but once Mao declared the PRC back in 1949, the denouement was inevitable.

  376. denk says:
    @DevilAdvocate

    Note that ‘western’ elites have reached this consensus…

    Asiatic, meaning the Chinaman, are gonna displace the aryan race from this planet one of these days…something has gotta be done!

    They tried wars, 3M in Korea, 3M in Nam, 3M in Laos , 3M in Indon…sounds awesome but its like a drop in the ocean for the yellow hordes.

    Conclusion..

    wars aint effective as a culling tool.
    germ warfare would be more effective, the elites nod in unision, Jack London figured it out long ago.

    William Cohen hinted at it in 1997

    The bad guys , not us of course, are engaging in nefarious proj like ebola, race specific bioweapon,
    haarps..the lot.

    Meanwhile, the neocons publicised their PNAC road map for pax murikka…
    Amongst their to do list. …
    race specific bioweapon.

    SARS1 was just an appetizer….
    The rest is history.

    • Replies: @DevilAdvocate
  377. denk says:
    @Luus Kanin

    its the black

    Long before covid, there were hate crimes against Chinese in FUS, FUK, OZ, NZ, CANADA…

    Why ?
    cuz the ptb, the MSM all drum into the mug head that…

    chinaman steal your jobs, they’r all spies, they’r gonna invade us one of these days.

    From 2020 onwards, hate crimes against Chinese erupted all over the world and skyrockets in anglo land [five liars]

    Why ?

    Trump’s ‘Chinese Virus’ tweet helped lead to rise in racist anti-Asian Twitter content: Study

    Trump’s ‘Chinese Virus’ Tweet Linked to Rise of Anti-Asian Hashtags on Twitter

    https://thediplomat.com/2021/06/how-trump-fueled-anti-asian-violence-in-america/

    How Trump Fueled Anti-Asian Violence in America

    Racist anti-Asian hashtags spiked after Trump first tweeted ‘Chinese virus,’ study finds

    Trump can’t claim ‘Kung Flu’ doesn’t affect Asian Americans in this climate

    Trump Is The Biggest ‘Superspreader’ Of Anti-Asian Racism

    Trump Tweet On ‘Chinese Virus’ Sparked Rising Use Of Anti-Asian Hashtags

    Trump is ‘legitimizing’ hate incidents against Asian Americans: U.N. experts

    Donald Trump Repeats ‘China Virus’ Slur on Fox News on Same Night As Atlanta Shootings

    Trump dubs COVID-19 ‘Chinese virus’ despite hate crime risks

    Trump ‘seemingly legitimizing’ the rise in hate crimes against Asian Americans, according to a UN report

    Trump Continues Calling the Coronavirus “Chinese” Despite Reports of Anti-Asian Hate Crimes

    Only those willfully obtuse could fail to see that its the FUKUSA aka AUKUS gang who incited a worldwide hatred of Chinese.
    [Morison even push for a UN inquisition in China, triggering a spat which continues to this day]

    In traditionally sinophobic [[[five liars]]] land, its the usual white on yellow violence….except for FUS, where its white/black on yellow.

    Yet we keep hearing white telling chinaman..

    blacks are you enemy

    I wonder why ?

    You look forward to when there are less white people in the world. Some would say that is racist

    Did I …what are u smoking ?

  378. @RadicalCenter

    Mao misunderstands the nature of the Swiss guard – far from an army of occupation
    Swiss mercenaries were very sought-after for brute strength and fierce loyalty
    (read: bodyguards); like the British sent their useless afterborn to the colonies
    and the Italians became priests, the Swiss in an organized way (“Reislauf“)
    sought money and fame abroad. Swiss guarded the Bastille and were among the
    last men standing at Camerone.
    Nowadays Swiss law allows only this sole exception; the weapons and uniforms were designed by Hans Holbein, the Bauhaus guru of his time, to be functional and representative
    (they do have modern weaponry, and being very Catholic is not the only prerequisite).

  379. @mulga mumblebrain

    … that the Chinese model is superior (read: more efficient) does not mean
    it offers a long-term solution; it only means the Americans will lose because they are
    wasteful, like hunter-gatherers lost to farmers, farmers lost to manufacturers
    and manufacturers lost to industry (not to mention the handling of intraspecific
    aggression, something at which the US suck); but unlike the (classic) reindeer of
    St. Matthews Island and the sheeps of Mopane technology will allow us to degrade
    the environment a lot further before population peaks.
    Land Reform is one way, but everywhere opposed by the Usual Suspects.

    So it´s techno-dictatorship interspersed with peasant revolts, until the Crash.

  380. @mulga mumblebrain

    So if we had a global government you’d probably want proportional representation: to be ruled by Chinese, Indians and Africans. No thanks.

    • Replies: @denk
  381. @mulga mumblebrain

    As for world government, it is, in my opinion, essential, at least in regard to global issues such as aggression, human welfare, ecological collapse etc. The current system where one grotesque, but dying, hyper-power, the USA, run by Evil psychopaths,

    is terminal, omnicidal and demented.

    Sure, it’s pretty clear now, for any sane system to emerge, they must be removed and isolated in a well controlled area (for not saying a total extermination).
    I suppose the theoretical idea behind the EU was a good one because they envisaged a community of independent and sovereign states, united by common interests, and helping each other.
    But the shadow of US over them, and a lack of commitment and responsibility of several members, destroyed a somehow good project.

    our fate is sealed.

    Our fate is never sealed. But I’m not naive, in order to reverse the present course the world must be seriously shaken and a lot of people will suffer.

    Can you explain why you see Mao as the last determinant of our course ?

  382. @denk

    Note that ‘western’ elites have reached this consensus…

    Present western elites should not be allowed to participate in the decision process, if we want a sane world system to emerge. With their mentality of “win-lose”, they are totally incompatible with the now necessary “win-win” attitude.

    • Replies: @denk
  383. @mulga mumblebrain

    Mulga, you can swing your weltanschuuang around as much as you wish, but remember that it can be quite off-putting in mixed or polite company, and you leave no room for anyone else to swing their own weltanschuuang.

    Maybe stolen is a poor and simplistic choice of word to describe what happened. Maybe a better description would be that the CCP and the peasants killed off all the people claiming ownership of the land, so that the CCP and the peasants would be the new beneficiaries of claiming ownership of the land.

    You make an argument that the land owners were not the rightful owners, that the land belongs to all people, and the people to the land. It is a philosophy that could seem reasonable if all populations were nomadic and no government or other intrusion. Unfortunately, this has not transpired, nor will it.

    I prefer the philosophy that every man has a property in his own person. No one has a right to it but himself. The fruits of his labor belong to him. Catching fish, picking wild fruits and berries, catching wild game, etc., is just an individual’s right to own property in a state of nature. Being in possession of such things is clearly ownership of property. One who argues against property possession argues against the individual and the natural rights of man.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  384. denk says:
    @Commentator Mike

    In most countries, the minorities are at the mercy of the majority race.
    This is the norm.

    Prime example…
    Han minorities in Indon, Malaysia, FUS, FUK, OZ, CANADA, NZ are the fav punching bag for the majority race. .
    CEA, pogroms, genocides , the lot.

    The only places on this planet where minorities can live at peace are those ruled by Hans….
    viz, China, TW, Sg, HK…

    So why such loathing of Pax sinica ?

    More to the point…

    Where do u get the idea that the Hans want a pax sinica ?

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  385. denk says:
    @Luus Kanin

    every man has a property in his own person. No one has a right to it but himself. The fruits of his labor belong to him. Catching fish, picking wild fruits and berries, catching wild game, etc.

    LOL

    that’s how the chagosians, Ryukuren, Jeju islanders made their living , until the gringos descended on them, beat up granpa, grandma and kicked them outta their ancestral homes, to make way for more military bases,.

    aS for those oh so hard working landlords in feudal China….

    Why dont u read up on how the Tibetan serfs suffered under their landlords over class in pre CCP China ?

    HMDL was cool with the CCP until MAO implemented the land reform, thats when HMDL colluded with CIA/RAW to stage a revolt in 1959

    Anyway those are passe.

    May be u should do something more constructive now, like speaking up for the Chagosians, Ryukuren, Jeju ?

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  386. @mulga mumblebrain

    Mulga,
    I enjoy your writing even though I disagree with most of it.
    My opinion is this: humans are animals. The biology cannot change. All life is a struggle. It always has been be it the African savannah or the pacific ocean,be it a blue whale or a bacteria. Everyone is jostling for space or power. Hence the whole concept of a single government cannot come to be. There will always be differences. Even if everyone had the same ideology we’d still find differences based on biology(race, color). If two brothers from the same mother won’t get along how can two races or religions?

    This is why I obsess over astronomy and space. The real answers will come from outer space, from evolved life forms, and as far fetched as it sounds I think space colonies or colonies on the moon where the highest IQ humans of all races go to. The world will always be a hellhole getting worse with each passing year.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  387. @denk

    Where do u get the idea that the Hans want a pax sinica ?

    The Chinese don’t but Mulga does (unless Mulga has a better way of arranging the global government other than proportional representation), and it was my response to that. I don’t want the global majority ruling over me. I’m a sovereignist and probably China is too.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  388. @Commentator Mike

    Mikey, little Mikey-you only have ‘sovereignty’ over yourself, and only so far as it does NOT impinge on the sovereignty of others. And you’re gonna die, so sovereignty be buggered.
    And you live in a ‘society’ of sorts, so the sovereignties are gonna have to be balanced or you’ll be reaching for your assault rifle around the clock.
    The Chinese have several thousand years of experience in how to live in peace with one another, and with other States and peoples. Sure they failed and fecked up a lot, but they long ago realised that ‘harmony’ brings peace, progress and happiness for the greatest number. Your Exceptionalist shtick of ‘DOMINANCE’,the religion of the bully and the serial killer, has caused more human suffering than any other pathopsychological poison ever. Shortly it will end human residence on Earth. Enjoy your great victory.

  389. @RJ Macready

    I think that global governance ought to be only in global issues eg climate destabilisation, thermo-nuclear war, poverty and hunger etc. The world needs to be governed according to equality, not some hierarchy of races, religions and ideologies.
    After the global level the nation-state needs to be reduced, save for bread and circuses like sporting competition. National militaries need to be radically downsized and defensive only, thereby freeing up trillions per year for sane purposes. Local governance can look after welfare and policing and individuals granted as much power and autonomy as possible, so long as it does not hamper the freedoms of others. To achieve that there must be as much economic equality as possible, so large fortunes will be taxed out of existence, as will inherited ones. Of course with greater equality you get a more vibrant and peaceful society, and the moneys raised from the thieves and parasites can be put to proper use.
    Of course this cannot happen under ‘liberal democracy’ with parties seeking to divide societies into hateful factions, and politics entirely corrupted by the money power of the rich. So a single ‘party’ of power and governance is needed, one that anyone can join and rise on their merits, and one guided in policy by true public opinion, and a life-affirming ambition to make human existence comfortable, moral and long-lasting. This is the Chinese model, but with local characteristics, of course, due to differing culture and history.
    The current system, global dominance by Western psychopaths, is terminal and death-seeking.

  390. @Luus Kanin

    Yes, Loos, but I was arguing against THEFT, not possession. You may possess that which you created, or grew, or harvested, or that someone gave you as a gift, but you must not steal from others by brigandage or financial chicanery like odious debt. And you must not steal from future generations, as in over-exploiting resources to the detriment of our fellow creatures and our descendants. There you have it-capitalism and capital have gotta go, or we will.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @Luus Kanin
  391. denk says:
    @DevilAdvocate

    Present western elites should not be allowed to participate in the decision process

    Meet gawd’s chosen ones…

    1/4 of human race are defective and need to be culled….

    Hmmm..
    1/4 ?

    Remember the anglo’s obsession with the yellow horde, ?

    Walter Russell Mead

    China Is the Real Sick Man of Asia

    May be just a coincidence.

    https://blog.thegovernmentrag.com/2020/10/27/10238/

  392. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Dont be too hard on those landlords in feudal China, they had a hard life..

    Luus K

    The fruits of his labor belong to him. Catching fish, picking wild fruits and berries, catching wild game, tilling their own land….

    hehehehehe

  393. @denk

    Denk, you are running around like a chicken with its head cut off. I use an example to show a western philosophy of individualism, and you grab the baton and start running, only in the opposite direction.

    You make the case of Chagosians, Ryukuren, and Jeju islanders living in a state of nature prior to them being descended on by the gringos. You made my case for me, in which I wrote that a government or other entity would intrude on them and remove them from their way of life. I didn’t suggest that this is acceptable, only that this is the nature of man, a stronger group will infringe upon a weaker group’s natural rights.

    I was just making a case for the natural rights of man, a western philosophy. I believe you would prefer the philosophy of dialectical materialism, which is associated with communism and the CCP. I wonder where the CCP got that idea from, hmm… oh I remember now, that is also western thought, taken right from Marx. Those dang rotten westerners going and putting all that western thought into all those wonderful, peaceful Hans, who were doing nothing wrong, just minding their own business.

    I am sure you are much more knowledgeable on the aforementioned islanders than I. I would make note of the fact that long before those gringos descended on the Ryukuren and Jeju people in order to make military bases, their peaceful island existence was descended on by those pesky Japanese. I guess one could call the Japanese gringos, since they are not Hispanic or Latin, but I don’t think that is what you had in mind when you mentioned the gringos.

    I do not defend your hard working landlords in China, only that the terrible landlords were killed off by the wonderful new landlords for the benefit of the wonderful new landlords, which is some meat and potatoes that you seem not care to eat.

    I am surprised you mentioned Tibet. I wonder how their relationship with the CCP is working out?

    • Replies: @denk
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  394. Mevashir says:
    @Yukon Jack

    I have never heard of this. Are there any reputable scientists who support this view that CO2 follows temperature not forces it?

    This is a reply to your comment on the latest Philip Giraldi article where you discuss the terrifying prospect of governments garnishing and freezing our private bank accounts:

    I think the access to bank accounts derives from the time of the Patriot Act, which granted the government surveillance rights over all private financial transactions (in the name of monitoring terrorist groups’ fund transfers).

    Since the Patriot Act, nothing is private. Not your conversations with your psychiatrist or with your priest. Not your bank account. Not your medical records. Nothing is private, nothing is sacrosanct.

    It’s important to remember that George W Bush introduced that bogus piece of legislation. As I keep saying, there are no good guys in this saga. They’re tag teaming us with good cop / bad cop while both parties encroach on our civil rights and destroy our lives.

    I was watching Tucker Carlson tonight. He made some excellent points about why do we have to hate Putin? He gave some really good coverage about the Canadian crisis. But right after him they brought on some General Keane who is supporting Biden’s agenda of confronting Putin by sending military units to Eastern Europe. So even Fox News doesn’t have a consistent storyline or a clear agenda.

    I think the only reasonable response is to minimize our involvement with the system as much as possible, scale back our consumption habits, give as much money away to a worthy charity as possible, and accept the fact that we are living under tyranny and cannot make any meaningful impact on the system at large. Every one of us should ENDEAVOR ASAP to make our lives right with our Creator. Amen

  395. denk says:
    @Luus Kanin

    I am surprised you mentioned Tibet. I wonder how their relationship with the CCP is working out?

    gringo are the expurts on Tibet, why dont u tell me ?

    IM surprised you didnt bring up the ‘Uighurs genocide’ !

    hehehe

    Just wondering,
    Do u have the cojones to speak truth to power at home…be warned , there’d be consequences !

    Ask the pommies..
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/mar/12/humanrights.military

    https://web.archive.org/web/20190303025356/http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1027.htm

  396. @mulga mumblebrain

    “I was arguing against theft, not possession”.

    Welcome to my side of the fence Mulga, isn’t this nice over here? It’s as good as mountain oysters, and with a peachy view!

    • Replies: @denk
  397. Mevashir says:
    @Yukon Jack

    These videos contradict your claim that CO2 lags temperature. That apparently only is true in Antarctic ice cores but not in the northern hemisphere. Please watch!

    Do you deny that ice is melting rapidly in the Arctic and antarctic? Do you realize that Russia is building a northern passage along its Arctic coastline because the sea ice is so rapidly melting?

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  398. denk says:
    @Luus Kanin

    u’r full of it buddy.

    u proposed that so called western philosophy of a man’s right to his
    sacred land wrt CCP’s land reform
    proj.

    u’ve been defending those landlords in feudal China, who acquired their ill gained properties by debt traps, extortion and outright robbery., like your evil ranchers in the old west.

    Tilling their own land, hunting for wild boars

    your ass.

    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  399. @denk

    Denk, have you not once ever been able to read something and then comprehend what was written? It is a shame really, but keep plugging along, if you reach for the stars long enough, maybe one day you will be able to remove yourself from the rut you are in. Oh, by the way, Mulga and most civilized people that I disagree with are allowed on my side of the fence, but if you try to clamber over, I will have to turn the hose on you. I am sure you could use the bath.

    • Replies: @denk
  400. @Luus Kanin

    Loos, the CPC uses lots of ideas. Dialectics, Confucianism, ecological sustainability etc. Its Universities study Western philosophies, Chinese philosophies, Indian etc. Theirs is a very syncretic ideology, and they prefer putting things to work to see if they are beneficial. They don’t just take one tiny part of Adam Smith’s work and deify it.
    As for Tibet, apart from ending feudal serfdom, ending brutal theocratic rule, including torture and hereditary debt, emancipating women, doubling life expectancy, ending illiteracy, bringing modern infrastructure, electricity and healthcare etc, what did the Chinese ever do for Tibet?

    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  401. denk says:
    @Luus Kanin

    Ryuku

    The jp got there first,

    Two wrongs doesnt make a right kid

    Breaking….
    Ryuku is a FUS/JP joint proj

    The exotification of Okinawans does not neutralize the discrimination that Okinawa continues to face from Japanese environmental racism and dual colonization by both Japan and the United states

    [1]

    There’s a reason why whitey bestow the title of honorable white to the jp,
    ITS called….professional coutesy.

    Partners in Crime..
    From the ENA to QUAD.

    [1]
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2007/11/04/reader-mail/discrimination-against-okinawans/

    ————–
    PS
    Loose cannon barking like an agitated chiwawa
    Typical gringo mug.
    Debate incapable and….sore loser.

    • Replies: @Luus Kanin
  402. @denk

    Denk, cute family photo, I am sorry, but I can’t make out which one is your mother.

  403. @mulga mumblebrain

    Mulga, the CCP rules on the philosophy of Marx and dialectical materialism, not Adam Smith’s philosophy, and none other than Xi Jinping espoused this, saying that China will always be Marxist. Isn’t it mystifying how the CCP has made life so much better for Tibetans that they prefer not to be ruled by the CCP? It’s another Mystery of the Ages.

    • Replies: @denk
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  404. anarchyst says:
    @mkr

    If environmentalism restricted itself to truly caring for our natural resources, I would have no problem with it. However, with the secret science and questionable funding that these environmental groups possess taints the whole barrel. It turns out that many claims that environmentalists make have no basis in fact and are not based on good, honest, scientific investigation. This is why environmental scientists have to hide their data, as it does not fit their agenda. A good example of this is the so-called global warming crap, now renamed climate change. For one, the climate is always changing. The East Anglia emails in which data was purposely falsified by climate scientists comes to mind. Not only that, the climate scientists purposely installed temperature monitoring sensors in cities, contrary to manufacturers recommendations and good scientific practices, in asphalt-covered parking lots, and other heat sink areas in order to prove their (faulty) hypothesis. This is scientific dishonesty at its worst.
    It turns out that the solar system is in a cooling cycle due to decreased solar activity. There are two long-term solar cycles that reinforce themselves when in phase and cancel themselves out when out-of-phase. Look up the Maunder minimum. There are no SUVs on Mars or other planets, yet they are also experiencing the same solar variability.
    Environmentalism has been the method used to impose communist principles on western society, especially in the USA.
    Environmentalists are not content with promoting clean water, air and land, but are hell-bent on controlling human behavior, and yes, promoting extermination plans for much of humanity as these anointed types consider mankind to be a pestilence (except for themselves) to be reduced in population by any means necessary.
    Environmentalists HATE the God-given concept of private property and have imposed government-backed and enforced land use controls on private property owners without compensation, clearly an unconstitutional taking of private property. If environmentalists want to control land use, let them purchase it themselves, not by government force. Today the only method of negating government-imposed land use restrictions is shoot, shovel, and shut up.
    If environmentalists had their way, the earth’s human population would be reduced by approximately 90%, with the remainder to (be forced) to live in cities, in soviet-style high rise apartments, utilizing bicycles, buses and trains for transportation. The use of automobiles and access to pristine wilderness (rural) areas would be off-limits to us mere mortals, and would only be available for these anointed environmentalists.
    The endangered species act is another abuse of environmentalism. Species are always changing, to adapt to their environments-survival if the fittest. In fact, the hoopla over the spotted owl (that placed much northwest timber land off-limits to logging) turned out to be nothing but scientific misconduct and arrogance. There are virtually identical species in other parts of the northwest.
    More scientific malpractice occurred when government biologists attempted to plant lynx fur in certain areas to provide an excuse for making those areas off-limits for logging or development. Fortunately, these scientists were caught, however, no punishment was imposed.
    In order to promote the false religion of “global warming” aka “climate change”, NASA “scientists” purposely installed temperature sensors in city parking lots and roads contrary to good scientific principles and practices in order to “skew” the “global warming” results.
    In a nutshell, today’s environmentalism IS communism like watermelon-green on the outside and red (communist) on the inside.
    It is interesting to note that communist and third-world countries have the WORST environmental conditions on the planet. Instead of the USA and other developed countries spending billions to get rid of that last half-percent of pollution, it would behoove the communist countries to improve their conditions first. Here is a question for you environmentalists: Why is there a push for restrictive environmental regulations, but only on the developed first-world countries, and not the gross polluters such as India and China?

  405. denk says:
    @Luus Kanin

    YOur mom

    western culture at its finest

    In western culture, a man’s right to his land is sacred

    Robbery of the century

    where’s the chiwawa when its needed most ?

    LIke all gringo mugs,
    Barking up the wrong tree !

    Tibet woof woof

    hehehhe

  406. @Luus Kanin

    Who said that the Tibetans prefer not to be ruled by the PRC? The CIA, NED or Richard Gere? Your fatuous credulity is world-class.

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  407. longhorn says:

    What pretext would give a minority of the population, to determine that the mandatory mass extermination of greater humanity was necessary to save the planet?

    Does wealth determine importance in this matter, even though wealth is measured in the context of a legal fiction known as fiat currencies?

    Self-importance if not an a original sin, should have at least been a runner up!

    Of all the human beings on earth at present; are worth of deciding who should live, and who should die? More importantly, is there a conflict of interest in the determination?

    Let those who have the faith in their opinions, lead the way to their determinations.

  408. @mulga mumblebrain

    ” Who said that the Tibetans prefer not to be ruled by the PRC?”

    The Dalai Lama? Like Denk, you want to change the narrative. I did not write about the People’s Republic of China, I wrote the CCP. The Dalai Lama did want full independence for Tibet, now wants cultural autonomy, which the CCP is determined to not allow. Changing the channel mid program shows an inability to argue my point, but I guess you prefer the cartoon channel instead. A pity Mystery of the Ages flew right over your head without you even noticing. I was hoping that you would present a better effort Mulga, but it could be that Denk has brought you down to his level. In the future I would suggest not copying off of Denk’s paper. Anyone with an ounce of brains knows that it will lead to nothing but disaster.

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  409. @Luus Kanin

    Your ‘point’ is bull-dust. The Sixty year CIA asset, the Dalai, is utterly untrustworthy, and, indeed, a quite Evil swine. A few years ago when his forces succeeded in persuading dupes, often of low intellect, to self-immolate, he could have stopped the senseless suffering with one utterance. BUT NE NEVER DID, knowing that these horrors would have NO effect on the PRC Government, but were for Western Sinophobic hate propaganda only.
    The Dalai in his sinister dotage, is controlled by US-trained subalterns, all fanatic Sinophobes. Once in power in any way, US bases would follow as the night the day. It ain’t gonna happen. The next Dalai will live in Lhasa, and know his place.

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