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On April 8, it was announced that Canada would soon be joining an illustrious club: the enlightened nations of the world that have elected to ban so-called Holocaust denial. Depending on how one interprets the law, there are currently 18 nations that either explicitly ban “Holocaust denial” (including Germany, Austria, France, Israel, Italy, Poland, Hungary, and Russia) or generically ban “denial of genocide” (Switzerland and Lichtenstein). Canada would then be the nineteenth nation in this honor roll of obsequiousness.

Canada’s action comes not long after the UN General Assembly approved a related resolution, A/76/L.30, on 22 January 2022, “condemning” such denial. (The resolution was passed “by consensus,” meaning that no actual affirmative votes were cast. Evidently no country had the courage to demand a rollcall vote.)

The text of Canada’s bill is apparently unavailable—it seems that it will be buried in a larger spending bill—but the UN resolution has some interesting remarks. It first defines the Holocaust as an event “which resulted in the murder of nearly 6 million Jews, 1.5 million of whom were children.” This is notable because it codifies in international law the infamous ‘6 million’ figure—a number which is doomed to eventual collapse, given the dearth of evidence. Also, I know of no source for the “1.5 million children,” but a lack of substantiation has never stopped our intrepid authorities in the past, and it surely won’t here.

The resolution goes on to describe what it means by Holocaust denial:

Holocaust denial refers to discourse and propaganda that deny the historical reality and the extent of the extermination of the Jews by the Nazis and their accomplices during the Second World War. … Holocaust denial refers specifically to any attempt to claim that the Holocaust did not take place, and may include publicly denying or calling into doubt the use of principal mechanisms of destruction (such as gas chambers, mass shooting, starvation, and torture) or the intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people.

As usual, such wording is a combination of ambiguity and meaninglessness. First, no revisionist claims that the Holocaust “did not take place”—if by this we are to understand that no one, no Jews, actually died. No revisionist calls into doubt that mass shootings of Jews occurred, nor that many Jews suffered from starvation and “torture.” They do, however, specifically challenge the idea that homicidal gas chambers were used to murder masses of people, and they do question the actual intentionality of Hitler and other leading National Socialists to literally kill the Jews.

This requires a bit of elaboration. On the first point, Zyklon-B (cyanide) chambers as instruments of mass murder face a large number of major technical problems, including (a) infeasibility of rapid, mass gassing; (b) personal danger to the alleged gassers; (c) inability to remove gas and Zyklon pellets after gassing; (d) inability to remove gas-soaked corpses; and (e) inability to dispose of masses of corpses in any reasonable time. Worse still are the so-called “diesel exhaust” gas chambers, which are alleged to have killed some 2 million Jews—twice the number of the infamous Zyklon chambers. (If this is news to you, you need to do some research.) These chambers allegedly relied on captured Russian diesel engines to produce fatal carbon monoxide gas. However, (a) diesels actually produce very little CO, far too little to kill masses of people in any reasonable time; (b) diesel engines cannot pump exhaust gas into sealed, “air-tight” rooms; and (c) the corpses at those alleged camps showed no sign of CO poisoning—namely, a pink or bright-red coloration of the skin. If the traditional advocates of the Holocaust were serious about defending their view, they would start by addressing these obvious questions. Instead, they ignore them, and retreat to legal remedies.

On the question of intentionality, the actual words of Hitler, Goebbels, and others matter. They often spoke of the Vernichtung (‘destruction’) or Ausrottung (‘rooting-out’) of Jews, but these terms do not require the mass-killing of the people in question. We know this because, first, the Germans used these very terms for years, decades, in public, long before anyone claims that a “Holocaust” had begun; clearly, they meant little more than ending Jewish dominance in society and driving most Jews out of the nation. Secondly, the Germans consistently used other language that explicitly called for deportation, evacuation, and mass removal of Jews—ethnic cleansing perhaps, but not mass murder. Thirdly, we have innumerable examples of other Western leaders, from Bush to Obama to Trump, who have similarly spoken publicly of “destroying” or “annihilating” their enemies (usually Arabs or Muslims) without implying mass murder. Tough talk has always played well for politicians, and the Germans were no different.

The UN resolution continues with some specifics on the definition of denial:

[D]istortion and/or denial of the Holocaust refers, inter alia, to:

(a) Intentional efforts to excuse or minimize the impact of the Holocaust or its principal elements, including collaborators and allies of Nazi Germany,

(b) Gross minimization of the number of the victims of the Holocaust in contradiction to reliable sources,

(c) Attempts to blame the Jews for causing their own genocide,

(d) Statements that cast the Holocaust as a positive historical event,

(e) Attempts to blur the responsibility for the establishment of concentration and death camps devised and operated by Nazi Germany by putting blame on other nations or ethnic groups.

Four of these points—“excuse or minimize impact,” “blame the Jews,” “cast the Holocaust in positive light,” and “attempts to blur responsibility”—are all but irrelevant to serious revisionism. Serious revisionists, including Germar Rudolf, Carlo Mattogno, and Jurgen Graf, among others, virtually never discuss such things. They focus on far more pragmatic matters: the infeasibility of the mass gassing schemes, the lack of corpses or other physical evidence, the absence of photographic or documentary evidence showing mass murder, and the many logical inconsistencies of witnesses and survivors. But our fine Holocaust traditionalists never raise these troublesome issues, because they know that they have no reply.

Of the five points, only (b), “gross minimization of the number of victims,” is relevant—in other words, the questioning of the “6 million.” But what counts as “gross minimization”? Does ‘5 million’ count? If so, noted (and deceased) orthodox researcher Raul Hilberg would be quickly tarred with the “anti-Semite” label; the fact that he hasn’t suggests otherwise. What about ‘4 million’? If so, then early researcher Gerald Reitlinger is in for trouble; he long advocated around 4.2 million Jewish deaths. Does ‘3 million’ count? Or ‘2 million’? Or will we “know it when we see it”? For the record, serious revisionists today estimate that around 500,000 Jews died in total at the hands of the Nazis—most of these due to typhus contracted in the various camps, many in assorted shootings at the Eastern front, and virtually none in “homicidal gas chambers.”

So what, exactly, does the UN want from the world? As we read in the text, the UN

  1. Rejects and condemns without any reservation any denial of the Holocaust as a historical event, either in full or in part;
  2. Urges all Member States to reject without any reservation any denial or distortion of the Holocaust as a historical event, either in full or in part, or any activities to this end;
  3. Commends those Member States which have actively engaged in preserving those sites that served as Nazi death camps, concentration camps, forced labour camps, killing sites and prisons during the Holocaust…
  4. Urges Member States to develop educational programmes that will inculcate future generations with the lessons of the Holocaust in order to help to prevent future acts of genocide…
  5. Urges Member States and social media companies [!] to take active measures to combat antisemitism and Holocaust denial or distortion by means of information and communications technologies, and to facilitate reporting of such content;
  6. Requests the United Nations outreach programme on the Holocaust as well as all relevant United Nations specialized agencies to continue to develop and implement programmes aimed at countering Holocaust denial and distortion…

Of course, if we wish to designate the loss of some 500,000 Jews as a “holocaust,” then we are welcome to do so. But we had best get our facts and arguments straight. To resort to legal prohibitions is tantamount to admitting defeat.

None of these points were lost on a Jewish Boston Globe columnist, Jeff Jacoby. He was motivated to write a short op-ed entitled “It’s a mistake to ban Holocaust denial” (24 April). He quotes Canada’s public safety minister, Marco Mendicino: “There is no place for antisemitism and Holocaust denial in Canada.” Despite agreeing with this view, and despite “despising” Holocaust deniers, Jacoby opposes the pending law. And he explains why—though not before displaying an embarrassing ignorance and an appalling shallowness.

He first informs us that Holocaust “deniers” (never defined) are “contemptible antisemites and brazen liars,” overflowing with “Jew-hatred” and seeking to “rehabilitate the reputation of Hitler.” They attempt to refute “the most comprehensively documented crime in history” by insisting that it “never occurred.” Such people deserve “all the obloquy and contempt” that one can muster, he says. To call such claims unjustified and unwarranted is an understatement of the first order; the reliance here on ad hominem attacks is a sure sign of an impending vapidity of argumentation.

Still, Jacoby opposes anti-denial laws on two grounds. First, such laws run afoul of the spirit of the First Amendment (free speech and press). More broadly, he rightly notes that “it’s dangerous to empower the state to punish ideas.” Indeed, “any government that can criminalize Holocaust denial this week can criminalize other opinions next week.” Left unspoken, though, is a key point: How is it that in Canada, a 1% minority of Canadian Jews are able to push through a law that specifically benefits them? One would think that, in Canada, a 1% Jewish minority would have, say, half the clout of the 2% minority of American Jews. But clearly not. Canadian Jews are about to prevail yet again.

Jacoby’s second reason for opposing such laws is that, as I noted above, they amount to “intellectual surrender.” He quotes Holocaust scion Deborah Lipstadt to the effect that such laws imply that one is unable to construct a rational argument in defense of the traditional view. And this, in fact, is true. Just look at any traditionalist account of the Holocaust, even by the most learned academician. Look at any commentary on Holocaust denial. None will address the basic issues that I cited above. None will mention a single recent revisionist book, or a single active researcher, such as Rudolf, Mattogno, or Graf. None will examine or refute a single relevant revisionist argument. None will provide a breakdown, by cause, of the infamous “6 million” deaths. These are telling facts.

For his part, Jacoby obviously has no answer. All he can do is make flat and baseless assertions: “never was a genocide more meticulously recorded by its perpetrators … or more comprehensively described by scholars and survivors”; “an immense ocean of evidence attests to the horror of the Holocaust.” Unwisely, he attempts to use General Eisenhower’s “visual evidence … of starvation, cruelty, and bestiality” to defend his point. But this fails; as he likely is unaware, Eisenhower’s 550-page postwar memoir, Crusade in Europe (1948), has not a single reference to any Holocaust, gas chambers, or Auschwitz. A single paragraph in the book (p. 439) states only that the Jews “had been beaten, starved, and tortured.” One finds absolutely no mention of mass murder, extermination, gassing, crematoria, or the like. Eisenhower is hardly a good witness for the defense. (For what it’s worth, neither Churchill’s nor De Gaulle’s postwar memoirs had any mention of Auschwitz, gas chambers, or extermination either. Ike was no anomaly.)

But does all this really matter? What’s the big deal about the Holocaust? some may say. In fact, it is hugely important. The Holocaust is the lynchpin of Jewish power. It is the raison d’etre of the state of Israel. It is the number one guilt-tool used against Whites everywhere. And it is the embodiment of Jewish narcissism. When that story crumbles, the whole Judeocratic edifice may well fall, too. We should never underestimate the power of Holocaust revisionism; the Jews certainly don’t.

A final thought: I’m happy to hear that Jeff Jacoby believes in free speech. It’s too bad that he doesn’t have equally strong feelings about openness and honesty, about the many problems with the Holocaust story, and about a global Jewish Lobby that is able to pass laws, ban books, and impose a cancel culture on anyone that it doesn’t like. Now, that would be an op-ed worth reading.

Thomas Dalton, PhD, has authored or edited several books and articles on politics, history, and religion, with a special focus on National Socialism in Germany. His works include a new translation series of Mein Kampf, and the books Eternal Strangers (2020), The Jewish Hand in the World Wars (2019), and Debating the Holocaust (4th ed, 2020). Most recently he has edited a new edition of Rosenberg’s classic work Myth of the 20th Century and a new book of political cartoons, Pan-Judah!. All these are available at www.clemensandblair.com. See also his personal website www.thomasdaltonphd.com.

(Republished from The Occidental Observer by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Could we,uhm,you know,maybe,do it now?

    • Replies: @cohen
    , @Doug Ryler
  2. Believe in the Holocaust but support Sub-Nazis in Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @RobinG
    , @JM
  3. Asking for evidence is “calling into doubt.” Will 6 months in prison be enough for a rascal who asks for evidence that the Nazis intentionally killed millions of Jews, just for being Jews?

    Or enough for anyone who ever afterwards employs the convict?

  4. One upon a time there is a great castle called the Holocaust. Unlike fabled Camelot, bright and cheerful, Castle Holocaust is ever so dark, full of ghosts and terrible tales, all irrefutable, all in fact. Upon a foundation of impeccable scholarship it rests. The walls are made of impregnable reams of data, records, and forensic evidence with numerable victims; Six Million, to be exact. Bound together with the hardest mortar of somber science, nothing else in the world of history – or religion – can compare. 

    So it is said, as all are warned: No Trespassing, and dare NOT look past the sacred foliage!

    Occasionally one wonders. A curious soul ventures a peek and pulls aside some of the tender vegetation. Staggering back, head shaking, they often report shocking news “I saw cracks, fallen walls, and mighty fissures, birds nests and moth eaten curtains… It was nothing like I imagined or have ever been told! Pray tell, am I losing my mind?”

    Chorus, including Canada: Yo! you’ll lose your job – and end up in a cage — if you do not SHUT UP!

  5. Magnus87 says:

    Just recently listened to a historian who mentioned that a significan number of people who had been interviewed in works on the history of the Battle of Britain had never been in the RAF. Apparently people like making up good stories so that they can feel important.

    • Replies: @aldasfail770
  6. BuelahMan says:

    It Would Be So Much Easier… if it were actually true.



    Video Link

    • Agree: inspector general
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  7. I bought Lipstadt’s book “Denying the Holocaust” and I was disappointed. I anticipated substantive rebuttals of the evidence uncovered by revisionists, but what I found was Lipstadt artfully employing time and again the disingenuous tactics which she claims to find in her adversaries. Lipstadt’s trademark is assertion after assertion presented without supporting evidence, “conventional wisdom”, which the reader is expected to accept without question at face value.

    She dismissed David Irving as a crude misogynist, so his research merited no further comment. She snidely noticed that he is not a historian by profession – even though popular holocaust fabulists, such as the reprehensible racist Goldhagen, likewise have degrees in other fields. Raoul Hilberg, the most respected holocaust historian, was repeatedly cited, but his (still likely exaggerated) lower estimate of Jewish deaths was never mentioned, nor are the vicious attacks against him for refusing to politicize the suffering of Jews in WWII on behalf of the Israeli apartheid state.

    The twentieth century was the most propagandized era of history; it was and remains necessary to market both German wars as life-and-death struggles of perfect good versus total evil. The second titanic clash of economic rivals is reduced to background noise to what is pretended to be its most important aspect, the fate of perhaps 2% of Europe’s population – and the traditional objects of the murderous hatred of Christians to boot. Today’s national security state is founded on those myths; uncovering the truth of what happened then is fundamental to getting back our freedom now. As long as powerful men get away with lies, they will keep on lying – just look at our media’s fact-free version of the Ukrainian situation today.

    • Agree: HdC, John Wear, JM
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @eah
  8. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    In 1992 the Polish government opened the archives and reduced the Auschwitz death count to 1.5 from 4 mil. This has been accepted by historians worldwide (remember Duterte’s 3 mil total comment?), including responsible zionists (e.g., NYTimes and JPost). The 6 mil number is now a knowing lie.

  9. @thotmonger

    Bully for “Thotmonger”!

    The 1963 Dallas Jack Whack was the all-time biggest Jew coup d’etat. About 8 years later JeWorld HQ concocted “The Holocaust” psywar campaign to serve as the ideology for JAPE, the JewAmerican Planetary Empire.

    The real holocausts of the Atomic War [aka “WW2”] occurred against locations such as Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo and the Big Two.

    JL*–911 [*= “Jewish Lightning”] lead to the juflu and now to the Last World War Dance, since Nuland & CABAT [“Cabal Above Biden And Trump”] succeeded in provoking Putin to invade Ukraine.

    Now where did I leave my thinking cap? BTW everybody had better read Paul Craig Roberts today (look him up yourself).

    • Thanks: anarchyst
  10. HdC says:

    Truth withstands the most inquisitive investigation; only lies require draconian laws to prevail.

  11. What is the justification for punishing people who do not believe in the Six Million? I have heard it put like this: Hitler murdered their bodies; Holocaust deniers murder the memory of them.

    That is a straight steal from Peter Pan by J M Barrie. “Everytime a child says ‘I don’t believe in fairies’ there is a a little fairy somewhere that falls down dead.”

    • Replies: @Badger Down
  12. A. Clifton says: • Website
    @BuelahMan

    so how many Dallas Cowboys were there at the Alamo….?

    as a trumpeter you ROCK !

    • Replies: @BuelahMan
  13. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @thotmonger

    What the West needs to ban is not “Holocaust denial” but Holocaust dogma! It should be recognized as a tool of ZOG warmongers, hypocrites, frauds, and hucksters.

  14. Edg says:

    The official story of the holocaust has as many holes and contradictions in it as the Warren Report. Why it is illegal to examine or ask questions concerning the events in Europe during that particular time period? Truth needs no set of laws to protect it from scrutiny, nor does truth need to be prohibited from discussion in the public sphere. To dare hold unauthorized beliefs amounts to Thoughtcrime.

  15. This is not about Holocaust Denial but Holocaust as History.

    History is revisited and revised. It’s a never-ending process.

    But Holocaust narrative has been sealed. It must be taken on faith. Thus, it’s akin to a religion.

    In EU and Canada, you are jailed if you practice Holocaust-as-History.

    In the US, you are blacklisted, denied financial services, and defamed by the Jewish-run media.

    Even now, there are debates about how many died in the Great Famine in Ukraine. Some say less than 3 million, some say 5 million or more. And there are many interpretations of WWI, the Civil War, and many other events. And some say Mao or Stalin was overall positive, some say overall negative.

    But when it comes to the Holocaust, it must be the canonical narrative enforced by Jewish Power.

    When you consider all the Jewish lies about Palestine, Russia, Iran, Syria, and ‘white supremacist terrorist threat'(and when you consider the wench to lead the Ministry of Truth), why should take the Holocaust Narrative at face value? Sure, there’s much truth but also many lies. We need to expose the lies and get at the real truth. How many really died and who did what.

    That would be Holocaust as History but Jews insist on Holocaust as Religion, to be shrouded by taboos.

    I suggest the West have a Nakba Remembrance Week.

    • Thanks: anarchyst
  16. @Anon

    But … death count? From what causes?

  17. I wrote to my MP (twice) requesting that he respond to my questions about what “denial” means, giving several examples, such as the reduced number at Auschwitz, and the Nuremberg “evidence” that says Jews were, for example steamed, boiled, vapourzed, electrocuted, and masturbated to death.
    Ironically, the Supreme Court of Canada, in probably its only sane ruling, allowed that Ernst Zundel`s conviction for publishing false news should be struck down because it was his right to an opinion, which is protected under the Charter of Rights. I also pointed this out to my MP. The useless turd has refused to reply. I have now informed him that his refusal to reply is an acknowledgement that he believes in criminalizing opinion, and I will be actively campaigning against him in the next election.

    • Thanks: GMC, Carolyn Yeager, Nancy
  18. I had a party here for holocaust remembrance day but it was a bust because the Rabbi didn’t fit in oven. We’re going to try again next year with a skinnier Rabbi, or a bigger oven.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Badger Down
  19. anon[413] • Disclaimer says:

    Seems to be a states-forced religion.
    Goal – the world religion.
    All have to believe.

  20. saggy says: • Website

    It’s a little disappointing that Dalton would write such nonsense as ..

    As usual, such wording is a combination of ambiguity and meaninglessness. First, no revisionist claims that the Holocaust “did not take place”—

    Of course the ‘Holocaust’ did not take place. It is a complete 100% hoax. Specifically there was Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews and no evidence for one has every been found, the ‘gas chambers’ are complete phantasmagoria and there is not a shred of evidence for them, and the number of Jews that were killed in the camps for being Jews is zero, and the Nazis aggressively investigated any crime in the camps.

    • Agree: HdC, Pierre de Craon, Towey
  21. Response to being called a “Holocaust denier”:

    I’m no Holocaust denier!

    I don’t deny any of the Holocausts Israel is responsible for.

  22. You might think that the UN would have better things to do with its time than to propound a pointless resolution condemning the questioning of events from 77 years ago. Many more than 6 million people are going to freeze and starve in the dark next winter if the sanctions on Russia aren’t lifted. That’s more the kind of problem the UN was created to solve, but it is evidently not staffed by serious men.

    • Thanks: JackOH
  23. Some nice fun reading.

    A Jewish writer playing stupid and engaging in very low level pilpul regarding Iran and the Hollow-Hoax:

    https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-media-pushes-holocaust-denial-jews-did-the-real-holocaust-649144

    Some interesting links in this article (Iran and the Hollow-Hoax):

    https://iranwire.com/en/religious-minorities/70866

    The Hollow-Hoax museum getting in on the action:

    https://www.ushmm.org/information/press/press-kits/press-guide-to-holocaust-denial-in-iran

    And of course, who could ever forget the ADL:

    https://www.adl.org/blog/state-sanctioned-propaganda-iran-completes-its-third-holocaust-cartoon-collection

  24. John Wear says:

    Ernst Zündel’s persecution indicates that it has never been safe to be a vocal Holocaust revisionist in Canada.

    Ernst Zündel was tried in 1985 and 1988 in Toronto, Canada for the alleged crime of knowingly publishing false news. Zündel was prosecuted based on information from the Canadian Holocaust Remembrance Association, a Jewish group that claimed Zündel was spreading false information. This Jewish group used Canadian taxpayer money to prosecute Zündel. All Zündel had ever done was publicly dispute the Holocaust story. Even though Zündel won both cases on appeal, he continued to be attacked and persecuted in Canada. In 1995 his Toronto residence was the subject of an arson attack resulting in over \$400,000 of damages. Zündel was also the recipient of a parcel bomb that was defused by the Toronto Police bomb squad.

    Zündel later moved to rural Tennessee to live with his wife Ingrid Rimland. In February 2003, Zündel was arrested in Tennessee for alleged immigration violations and deported back to Canada. Zündel was forced to spend over two years in solitary confinement in a Toronto jail cell even though he was never charged with a crime. Zündel was deported to Germany in March 2005, where he was tried and convicted of inciting racial hatred and defaming the memory of the dead. Zündel spent five years in prison in Germany.

    Ernst Zündel’s persecution illustrates the power of the historical blackout forces. Zündel wrote from his Toronto jail cell:

    “The media and educational system have dumbed the people down to a level hitherto unknown in the civilized world. They are modern-day zombie populations, led around by the nose—mentally so manipulated that they cannot think straight, much less act in their own self-interest, either as individuals or as societies and states. Both in spirit and in reality, they have become the tax-paying cash cows and playthings of an alien oligarchy.” (Source: Zündel, Ernst, Setting the Record Straight: Letters from Cell #7, Pigeon Forge, TN: Soaring Eagles Gallery, 2004, pp. 80-81).

    • Agree: HdC, Orville H. Larson
  25. darius says:

    While the zionists are allowed to exhibit holohoax in PUBLIC in many western cities, Germany decided to BAN pro Palestinian protests. What does this mean? Do you think the freedom of expression is equally applied to all groups? Or the Jewish groups have the upper hands?

    Germany: Berlin bans pro-Palestine protests, citing ‘public interest’.
    In an extraordinary move, authorities say ‘antisemitic’ statements at previous rallies are enough to ban future ones.
    At least one was scheduled for Friday 29 April under the title “protest against Israeli aggression in Jerusalem”.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  26. This Author is one I normally avoid, but he did get one part of this essay right.

    The text of Canada’s bill is apparently unavailable—it seems that it will be buried in a larger spending bill—but the UN resolution has some interesting remarks. It first defines the Holocaust as an event “which resulted in the murder of nearly 6 million Jews, 1.5 million of whom were children.” This is notable because it codifies in international law the infamous ‘6 million’ figure—a number which is doomed to eventual collapse, given the dearth of evidence. Also, I know of no source for the “1.5 million children,” but a lack of substantiation has never stopped our intrepid authorities in the past, and it surely won’t here.

    The “authorities” are now defining the Holocaust right down to some exact numbers, and he is correct that the required precision just doesn’t exist.

    Legislating this sort of thing is just plain stupid, and it reminds me of something Indiana tried to do back in 1897. Legislated “exactness” which is flat wrong.

    Happy Pi Day. Indiana once tried to define pi as 3.2. The bill almost passed.
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/happy-pi-day-indiana-define-pi-32-bill/story?id=61644614

    Just as I truly despise all the laws making it illegal to Boycott, Divest from, or Sanction the Shithole state, I don’t like this latest effort to make the Holocaust into a semi-sacred kind of eternal wailing and moaning. Will they eventually force us to build a little Holocaust altar in each and every home in the country?

    That said, the rest of the piece appears to be the standard Denial BS, but credit where it’s due – the Author did make the one very good point.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
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    , @HeebHunter
    , @John B.
    , @gregor
  27. Ghali says:

    Is it the “extermination of Jews”, or more accurately the Extermination of Slavs? This is a bit confusing article. How about the ongoing extermination of the Palestinian people, Dr Dalton?

  28. The holofraud mafia and its peoples are very violent. Violence is their language. Violence is their rule.
    The Jew is in general a very violent cretin; right now surfacing in Russia’s Ukraina.
    E.g.:
    The Jew forced the meat business on The North.
    In pre war Germany meat eating was like a sacred ritual.
    After the Second Jewish World War the Jew made daily meat eating his business in Germany and owned the biggest meat factories (till the money nomad found other pastures to fuck up).
    It was far more than incidence that the Jewish registrar (Ignaz Bubis) over defeated Germany was also the biggest brothel owner in Frankfurt, the destined city of Rothschild and their fateful “emancipation” as cross of mankind.

    The day of reckoning is coming. After that all the Moses religions, incl. the big fraud, will be gone. Amongst the survivors the difference between humans versus priests & politicians of the 6 Moses religions will be like man versus monkey. The capped monkey brains will be irrelevant to mankind as crown of creation.

  29. repugnant says:

    Trudeau is doing this so that when he’s ousted as Prime Minister of Canada, he can be given some egocentric title from the UN. This worthless charlatan is :SO INTO HIMSELF’. He sickens me. This individual is an abhorrent foul crass mistake for a human being. A coward, a rapist, a liar, a racist, his days as leading anything in Canada are numbered. What’s really shameful is that he’ll probably never spend a day in jail.

  30. For your convenience, from the Concise Oxford Dictionary [1934] the definition of a key word:

    holocaust, n. Whole burnt-offering; wholesale sacrifice (fig.) or destruction. [f. F holocauste f. LL f. Gk HOLO (kauston burnt f. kaio)]

    …………………………………………………………………………………………

    Remember, children: We should all love everybody, including even the very worst persons among us which are, of course, the murderers, the worst of which by nationality are the Jews, who themselves currently still remain under the sway of 98-year-old KinkHenKi (the Third). We the honorable NAGIM –Normal, Alias “Gentile”, IMmensity– should show our love for such seriously obstinate criminals by immediately locking them up along with their many NAG-by-blood _Shabbos goyim_ such as Kneeling Joe Biden, KaKamala गृध्र Harris, Donald רמת טראמפ Trump, Obomber, Bushez, Clintonz, Nancy Pelosi usw. The life of the Kozmoz depends on the success of our posse in this sacred duty.

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  31. Rogue says:

    When it is endlessly asserted that the Holocaust is the most documented event in history, what is actually meant by that?

    For those with little or no knowledge of the subject, it comes across as there must be mountains of documents from German and other countries archives that absolutely prove the official Holocaust narrative.

    But we know that this isn’t the case. There’s the Wannsee Protocol, which might be referring to Jewish mass extermination, but it’s wording is a tad ambiguous so hardly conclusive.

    However, apart from the Wannsee document there appears to be rather slim pickings in the German archives. Certainly, there’s plenty of evidence of mass shootings on the Eastern Front, and no sensible revisionist would deny that. But I refer to documents that purport a diabolical plan to mass exterminate the entire Jewish population of Nazi occupied Europe.

    Or at least documentary evidence that highlights some of the insisted upon elements of the official version of events.

    There have been books published (at least one that I know of) that states that the reason for there being little documentary evidence in the German archives about the Holocaust, is that a crime of such proportions could only be ordered and communicated by word of mouth.

    Which brings me back to the question of what is meant by this event (the Holocaust) being the most documented event in history?

    I must presume that the documented “evidence” is simply the enormous volume of stuff that has been written about it since the end of the Second World War.

    What is also quite obvious, is that the further we get away from the time these things happened, the more entrenched the official narrative becomes.

    • Agree: mark green
  32. Here’s the thing- I graduated in history of WW2 and am obsessed with the war. I discovered this blog about a year or so ago. Before that, I wasn’t even aware of the Jews and what the real truth is of the state of the world. I got slaughtered on here by posters for saying that the holocaust did happen, and since then my perception has changed. But my question still stands:

    rationally speaking how do you explain:

    1.) the pictures of the skeletal bodies? Here my pov is that the numbers were much less-not the 8-10 million but maybe a few hundred thousands were exhumed and starved. But it could have happened.
    Still- how do you explain the photographs of the chambers, the dead skeletons one over another, the American generals standing overlooking the carcasses? They’re all over the internet.

    2.) Why did the Nazi officials testify at Nuremberg at all over this issue? I am obsessed with Albert Speer and have read the seminal book he wrote whilst in prison(Inside the 3rd reich) and even in it he goes in detail about how he was not aware of what was happening at the chambers. Why go through all that at all? Why did Goring et all even speak on this subject whilst being questioned?

    Agian, like I said-a year ago I was blindfolded. So much has changed since then. Now I trust nothing. Covid, Ukraine…….I come here for the truth. But regarding the holocaust I need more assurance, Where I stand:It happened but in much lesser numbers than believed(maximum 500k at best). Nazis, after the Russia fuckup and the advancing allies started killing them. Which isn’t that hard to believe since they started killing their own people and went nuts.

  33. GMC says:

    The Ukraine Nazi armies with a Jew Prez. just showed that 9/11 and the Holocaust – were inside jobs. The same with Big Pharma and the Bioweapons labs and the Corona scam.. One huge Crime syndicate.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  34. I think the Holocaust happened — although the insistence on six million is peculiar, inasmuch as the leading orthodox historians of the subject seem to opt for somewhere between 5.1 and 5.4 million.

    However, that’s not really the issue. People have all kinds of beliefs I don’t share: that Jesus of Nazareth was the Son of God, that the Jews came from Palestine, that there ever was a ‘First Temple,’ that God spoke to Mohammed, that there is a God at all, that the Virgin Mary appeared to three peasant children in Portugal in 1917…

    Etc. Yet it never occurs to me that people should not be allowed to publicly advocate the reality of these things — and some of them have quite mischievous effects, too. The notion that the Jews came from Palestine would be one example of that.

    So why can’t people claim the Holocaust didn’t occur? Knock yourselves out. Why should I be permitted to silence you on this one point?

    • Agree: Jeffrey A Freeman
    • Replies: @Cohen
    , @gregor
  35. It is Holohoax Exposure/ Exposing the (((Holocaust))).

    Not “Denial”. We cannot deny something that never happened. And if it in the slightest sliver of truth happened in some isolated case, our centuries long observation and suffering under the yids justify any possible punishment these kikes could have deservingly received.

  36. @Observator

    ‘The twentieth century was the most propagandized era of history; it was and remains necessary to market both German wars as life-and-death struggles of perfect good versus total evil. ‘

    That right there is a particularly exasperating fallacy — that all the good is on one side, and all the bad is on the other.

    Even when the scales tilt one way or the other, both sides usually have a point. Life is not a fairy tale — but people keep trying to make it into one. We’re seeing that right now with the Ukraine.

  37. @Magnus87

    Did you just recently notice this?

    As a Iraq (OIF) Afghanistan (OEF) disabled veteran I know first hand the entire veteran scene is FULL of imposters. If you listened to people you would assume there are no paper pushers, mechanics, or cooks in the entire Armed Forces.

    When I first got out I joined the American Legion and found it to be surrounded by brash loudmouth losers trying to impart on everyone just how tough they are. It was almost entirely boomer “nam” vets who were too young to have ever stepped foot in Vietnam. The final straw for me there was I needed somewhere quiet to study for a test so I went to my legion post that was normally dead. I actually got harassed for drinking a Coke and reading a textbook and was called names by 2 geriatric losers who claimed to have been SEALS. I never went back and never participated in anything veteran related again. There are websites full of information about the leaders of these Veteran Service Organizations constantly getting caught faking their service. I know before DAV, VFW, AMVETS didn’t even require or want a DD214 as proof of service. They do want your membership payment though.

    I don’t know about other militaries around the world. Perhaps they are not exaggerators like Americans or perhaps they are. Americans seem to be like this in every facet of life though which makes them unbearable. Every time I spend time back in America I end up having to deal with people who just brag about whatever it is they are interested in. If they are a mechanic they one time built engines for Nascar. If they were into high end home audio they swear they once had a Kenwood better than anything else. (I would not use Kenwood junk for even as a clock radio) And of course I run into all sorts of “Rangers” “Special Forces” “SEALs” or pilots who would still be in if they “didn’t get injured”. Hell, I got injured serving and it was the greatest thing to ever happen to me. 4k a month for the rest of my life is a good deal. It is tiring talking to these people since you can only roll your eyes so much and know you will NEVER get that time back.

    Perhaps it has always been like this with embellishers and the military but I just have my experiences to go on. For my 2 wars it is so bad it is just better to never bring up that you are a veteran. (Which does make it awkward when asked what you do for a living)

    As far as my service goes, I was in the E5 Mafia and master of the smoke pit. My entire life revolved around doing as little as possible.

    • Thanks: Swaytonious
    • Replies: @xyzxy
    , @anarchyst
    , @Swaytonious
  38. dimples says:

    As far as I recollect the entire source for the ‘diesel engine’ story was one person, who may or may not have known what he was talking about. Denialists here’s your chance to shine!

  39. anon[122] • Disclaimer says:
    @Zachary Smith

    standard Denial BS

    Classic. Don’t address a single substantive point. Just fling an adhom, ho hum.

    Talk about “standard BS”, lol.

    But hey, you’re a reasonable “free speech” guy, so it’s ok, r-r-right?

  40. gotmituns says:

    Denying Holocaust Denial
    ——————————
    Nothing wrong with denial of the holohoax. It’s obvious that if the Germans wanted to do it, they couldn’t have devoted the logistics to shipping all those jews to a central point to be murdered. During WW2. Could anyone imagine them pulling arm/ammunition/casualty, etc. trains off to track sidings so trains full of jews, bound for a murder site could to pass? The whole thing is so stupid it defies all logic.

  41. eah says:
    @Observator

    She dismissed David Irving as a crude misogynist, so his research merited no further comment.

    Irving is not a ‘Holocaust’ scholar; he never specifically researched or wrote much (if anything) about the topic — he admits this himself.

    Leaving aside his ill-advised lawsuit against Lipstadt and her publisher, Irving’s problems began in the early and mid-90s (it was about this time that organized Jewry set out to ruin him and destroy his career), and were mostly due to two specific things: 1) his appearance at the second Zündel trial, where The Leuchter Report was introduced, and Irving testified that in all the research he’d conducted in German archives (original documents from the Third Reich era), he’d never found anything showing Hitler ordered, or even knew about, the mass murder of Jews, and 2) he didn’t feature the ‘Holocaust’ in his book Hitler’s War.

    Irving was impressed by The Leuchter Report, and afterward in a number of speeches made statements that cannot unfairly be characterized as ‘Holocaust’ doubt, if not ‘denial’; e.g. see here, at approx the 7m10s mark — ala the David Cole video, he also ridiculed the story of the gas chamber in Auschwitz I (Stammlager) — as a consequence, Irving was arrested and thrown out of, or barred from entering, several countries, and had to self-publish his books — later he spent some time in an Austrian prison.

    Nowadays Irving is elderly, and far less physically/intellectually vigorous — as I understand it, he espouses something that may be called ‘Holocaust light’, meaning he doesn’t necessarily believe there were gas chambers, but it seems he does believe there were organized killings of Jews, e.g. in the Aktion Reinhardt camps — he led tours to related sites in Poland (I’m not sure if he still does that).

  42. Marcali says:
    @Rogue

    Plus this:
    . “Wannsee’s Importance Rejected,” Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA), The Canadian Jewish News (Toronto), Jan. 30, 1992, p. 8.
    ( http://www.jta.org/1992/01/23/archive/nazi-scheme-not-born-at-wannsee-israeli-holocaust-scholar-claims )

  43. The Truth stands on its own. Undemocratic curtailing of free speech suggests the elite banker class want to hide something.

  44. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    God bless Ursula Haverbeck.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  45. @Rogue

    “Wannsee documents” are debunked as fake constructs decades ago; the moment Germans were allowed to have pencil and paper again by the grace of Jew & Americunt hyenas.

  46. PJ London says:
    @Anon

    The Auschwitz Day Book.
    “Only 173000 Jews were ever in Auschwitz during all of its years of operation.
    (1935-45) 58,240 died of typhus.
    2064 Jews died of natural causes other than Typhus.
    117 Jews were executed as punishment for actual crimes.
    161,164 Jews (including transfers in) were transferred out to other camps, still alive.
    11,836 Jews, still alive, were in the camp when it was liberated.”
    Note that Auschwitz operated as the clearing centre for rail transfers,
    100,000 approx Jews arrived at Auschwitz and were immediately (after being registered) forwarded to other camps.

    The Red Cross had unrestricted access each month to every German concentration camp including Auschwitz. They had inside men who reported to them in detail the activities at the camps.
    In a Nov. 22, 1944 letter to U.S. State Department officials, the Red Cross said: “We had not been able to discover any trace of installations for exterminating civilian prisoners. This corroborates a report which we had already received from other sources …”
    The Germans captured 150,000 British soldiers. 150 of those men were engineers who worked at Auschwitz-Birkenau to maintain the manufacturing plants that processed Silesian coal to make gasoline for the German Army. The Germans were using a coal gasification formula developed in 1915 in Russia. These 150 men obviously had daily access throughout the camps but to date neither a Nuremberg prosecutor nor a Holohoax researcher has cited their testimony. I wonder why.

  47. xyzxy says:
    @aldasfail770

    As far as my service goes, I was in the E5 Mafia and master of the smoke pit. My entire life revolved around doing as little as possible.

    Finally, an honest vet. I’ve never met so many whiners, so many losers who can’t get on with their lives but prefer to live in an imaginary Rambo-esque past, and as many ‘gibs me dat’ VA welfare queens, as you’ll find in the ‘army’ of ex-military bums.

    Because of your honesty, I thank you for your service. If we ever meet, you can buy me the beer! LOL

  48. Everytime the Jews get close to being caught for a new crime they bring up the holocaust.
    All of this distraction is to hide the vaxx deaths that are occuring every day now.
    Everyone in the medical/pharma world knew what the vaxx was going to do.

    • Agree: David Homer
  49. cohen says:
    @Bardon Kaldlan

    Cryptic Jew?????
    What is the point of your comments? One of your old comments I remember was one liner “Long article” Woopti Doo. Any idiot like me can see that.

    Are you trying your name recognition with such worthless one or two liners?

    I am still waiting to hear your answers to my simple questions, how about it?

    Now a few new ones? Do you really believe your fellow Khazarian Miafiozos are that smart as propagandized in the media and main stream history books.

    1. Noble Prize committee, are the groups consist of real and qualified scientists, intellectuals, or economist Or political appointees who lavishly throwing away the awards to folks like Obama, Mala, Eleeeeee Weasel, Krugman and above all Einstein.
    Why dont you address such issue.

    2.The propagandized myth that Israelis are smart in IT. Are they? what about stolen technologies from US or given to them by Russians in exchange for US sensitive information Remember Israeli heroes like Jonathan Pollard and Epstein types.

    3. Are the Jewish kids really above average in academics? How about in mathematics, engineering, spelling bee or any open competition like science projects. We dont hear about it. In medicine which mostly memorizing and hardly anything to do with critical thinking one would find tons of Jewish doctors. The most difficult part is to get into highly controlled and regulated medical college admission. Once you get in you will come as a doctor. Just learn to memorize without thinking. I have seen lot of Saudi, UAE doctors and of course the most famous one Dr. Ben Carlson who ran as a presidential candidate A friend of mine, an ear, nose, and throat surgeon, once admitted that he is not that smart but he is a mechanic who had done so many surgeries that he became good at it. Only practice

    4. The so called smart or chosen people are praised for abstract topics, like economics. My favorite is the plagiarist in chief, Einstein, who has equations after equations in his work that no one could understood. Does any one can understand 20 pages of equations. The more pages of equation in your work the smarter you are?

    Remember Horizon oil leak in gulf of Mexico a while back, an environmental catastrophe! All those Wanna be Einstein tried their multi pages equations with zero results. The problem was solved by an ordinary plumber in Ohio I could wrong about Ohio but it was not heavily mentioned in the Jewish Media. Can you imagine a guy from Israel or a team from a university, God forbid. We would be bombarded day and night with praises. TV mini series, interviews, books and of course movie with a lead role played by Brad Pitts with his famous tattoos.

    5. Are you still volunteering for Wikipedia watchdog group?
    6. Are there just volunteers on the Wikipedia watchdog team or are there paid ones too?

    • Thanks: Pheasant
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @David Homer
  50. “Instead, they ignore them, and retreat to legal remedies.”

    More like, illegal measures!

  51. John Wear says:
    @RJ Macready

    You write: “Still- how do you explain the photographs of the chambers, the dead skeletons one over another, the American generals standing overlooking the carcasses?”

    My response: The horrific scenes encountered by U.S. and British troops when they entered German concentration camps at the end of World War II have been used to prove a German policy of extermination of the Jews. As gruesome as these scenes were, it was soon discovered that most of the deaths in the German camps were caused by disease and other natural causes. None of the autopsy reports show that anyone died of poison gas. Also, contrary to publicized claims, no researcher has been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps. The virtual collapse of Germany’s food, transport, and public health systems and the extreme overcrowding in the German camps at the end of the war led to the catastrophe the Allied troops encountered when they entered the camps.

    I have never seen a photograph of a genuine German homicidal gas chamber. If you see an actual picture of what is supposed to be a homicidal gas chamber, please let me know.

    You write: “Why did the Nazi officials testify at Nuremberg at all over this issue?”

    My response: You might enjoy reading the article at https://inconvenienthistory.com/10/3/6089 on this subject.

    Much of the proof offered today by historians of the genocide of European Jewry is the “confessions” extracted by torture at the war crime trials. Among the most celebrated cases, Rudolph Höss, Hans Frank, Julius Streicher, Hans Fritsche, Oswald Pohl, Franz Ziereis and Josef Kramer were all subject to torture. Obviously, no “confession” obtained under torture would be considered credible evidence in a court of law.

    Contrary to what is often claimed or insinuated, none of the defendants at the Nuremberg trials stated that they knew anything of an extermination plan of Jews during the war. Hermann Göring, Hans Frank, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Albert Speer, Gen. Alfred Jodl, and the other Nuremberg defendants all denied knowing anything of an extermination policy against European Jewry. While such testimony is often dismissed as lying, the categorical and consistent nature of their testimony, sometimes by men who assumed they would be hanged, suggests that they are telling the truth.

    • Agree: HdC, anarchyst
    • Replies: @gotmituns
    , @RJ Macready
  52. Tom Welsh says:

    ‘It first defines the Holocaust as an event “which resulted in the murder of nearly 6 million Jews, 1.5 million of whom were children.” This is notable because it codifies in international law the infamous ‘6 million’ figure—a number which is doomed to eventual collapse, given the dearth of evidence’.

    As an experienced writer and editor, I notice the sly qualification, “…nearly 6 million Jews…” How many is “nearly 6 million”, I wonder? 5.5 million? 5 million? 3.8 million? 732,000? It is absolutely uncertain and unclear – just the way it is wanted.

    More generally, I utterly reject all attempts to restrict freedom of speech. It is wrong for ordinary people in general conversation, online or in private. I am tempted to say it is even more wrong for scholars, but that is impossible: there is no more wrong than “wrong”.

    To forbid discussion of any historical question is wrong, immoral, and stupid.Any government or organisation that attempts to gag people and censor their speech is not only doing something evil; it is making a terrible mistake. And revealing that it has no interest in human rights.

    • Replies: @JackOH
  53. Nat X says:

    The yt tiny hat tribe lives rent free in the yt wasp mind. Why is that?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  54. 2022/05/02
    “Israeli leaders on Monday denounced Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov for saying Nazi leader Adolf Hitler “had Jewish blood” and that Jews are among the worst antisemites.
    Lavrov made the remarks during an interview with Italian television, in which he claimed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s Jewishness did not undercut Russia’s claims that its invasion of Ukraine was meant to “denazify” the country.”….
    ““This is an unforgivable and scandalous comment, a terrible historical error and we expect an apology,” Lapid said. “The Jews did not murder themselves in the Holocaust. The lowest form of racism against Jews is blaming the Jews themselves for antisemitism.””
    “Lapid said Russian Ambassador Anatoly Viktorov would be summoned for “a not-so easy talk.” According to the Foreign Ministry, Viktorov has been called in for a “clarification conversation.””
    https://jewishnews.com/2022/05/02/israel-seethes-at-russian-fms-unforgivable-claim-hitler-had-jewish-blood/

  55. gotmituns says:
    @John Wear

    Of all of them twho you mentioned, Speer would have known. He knew everything having to do with the logistics of Germany at the time. The others, not so much as him.

  56. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    NY rabbi: ‘Not even 1 million’ Jews killed in Holocaust
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/ny-rabbi-not-even-1-million-jews-killed-in-holocaust/

    Holocaust Facts: Where Does the Figure of 6 Million Victims Come From?
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/6-million-where-is-the-figure-from-1.10570907

    ‘Hitler didn’t want to kill Jews, Palestinians caused holocaust’ – Netanyahu

    SIX MILLION JEWS 1915 1938

    • Thanks: Orville H. Larson
  57. Realist says:
    @cohen

    Are the Jewish kids really above average in academics?

    Ashkenazi Jews are.

    How about in mathematics, engineering, spelling bee or any open competition like science projects. We dont hear about it. In medicine which mostly memorizing and hardly anything to do with critical thinking one would find tons of Jewish doctors.

    You mention spelling bees…there is nothing more rote than spelling bees. There is absolutely nothing logical or consistent about spelling.

  58. IronForge says:

    To Author Dalton:

    IIRC, there are roughly 10-12 Million Jewish residing in the USA, and 10-12 Million Jewish residing in ISR.

    Considering that many ISR Jewish Residents and Diaspora Living Elsewhere also have USA Citizenships – this calls for an estimate of 3-5+% of the USA Population as being Jewish.

    Do revise your 2% figure.

    Also, many Christians/EthnicJewishChristians, Christo-Cults(Mormons+JW+Jews4Jesus), FreeMasons, and Ideological ISR Sympathizers are Zionists; and will often side with ISR regarding Western-Hegemony and MENA GeoPolitics.

    FYI, a “Business” NewsBlog run by a Jewish-American once told me that Unz.com Articles won’t be posted at her Site because she considers the Jewish-American Mister Unz to be a “Holocaust Denier”.

    As for me, I’d rather stick with Facts and believe that Tall Fences make for Good Neighbors. Do appreciate the Questioning. Hopefully, someone will put up an Objective Open Debunking+Discussion Site – without the Name-calling – because we need to stay objective while keeping the complaining to ourselves: and somehow Morons who can’t do so trigger the Ethnic-Slur/HateSpeech Flags that get in the way for the Debunkment to be actualized before the BodyPolitic.

    ****

    As an Addendum: The ISR Population is increasing at an aggressive Rate; and are projected to Double by 2050CE. Based on the UltraOrthodox Birthrate pushing this surge, we may be observing the ISR Population double every 25-30 Years beyond that. I’ve previously suggested here and on other Sites for the Jewish to Buy Out the Sinai and portioning Territory next to EGY wherein to relocate Gaza/West Bank Residents. Unfortunately, this Population Increase may instead encourage actualizing a Large-Scale Territory-Annexing “Greater Israeli Long War” against ISR’s Neighbors. Their Neighborhood are destabilized and/or weaked for that already.

    Their Wars, not mine. WashingtonDC may pull off another Kolomoiskyy-Biden-Zelenskyy Arms Shipment Lovefest for ISR’ future Wars; but I’ll have moved abroad by then.

    Best Regards

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @thotmonger
  59. Rich says:

    Having to pass a law to prove an historical event took place is an admission that the event never took place. I’m unaware of any other historical event that needs a law to prevent its being researched and written about. This is what originally caused me to look into the “holocau\$t” and led me to conclude it was a fable. It will do the same for most others who look into it.

    • Replies: @Jim H
  60. I would think there is a difference between the questioning of facts of a historical event as opposed to the act of questioning those facts simply being labeled as a “denial” ……….thus creating the assumption that the event never took place to begin with.

    Denial as an identifying label to those who would only question the facts, pigeon holes those individuals into whatever consequences by the labelers would want to impose on them.

    It is as if the Holocaust is the “forbidden zone” within the planet of the apes of which no human is allowed to be exposed to any evidence to the contrary of the current set of doctrinal fact claims within that historical event.

    but should not the claim of truth always be able to defend itself without implementing any laws forbidding to challenge it?

    ……..otherwise, such implementation becomes an authority lacking substance, of which only serves as an impetus to further questioning……by minds critical of claims which are forbidden to be examined.

    It would be by such authority in history that would have prevented Einstein’s discovery of relativity and Plank’s quantum reality.

    • Replies: @HeebHunter
  61. The biggest worry the Jew has is that the people of color, i.e. Blacks, Browns, Reds and Yellows would organize and demand reparations for some alleged crimes by the West and those billions would then be diverted to pacify those groups, denying him future payments that insures Israel remain a first world country … he knows he would be in the pickle unless he codifies his alleged suffering that in essence surpasses all other sufferings in the world.

  62. @RJ Macready

    “Here’s the thing- I graduated in history of WW2 and am obsessed with the war. I discovered this blog about a year or so ago. Before that, I wasn’t even aware of the Jews and what the real truth is of the state of the world.”

    From which ‘college’ did you major in the “history of WW2” that didn’t touch on the topic of Jews or was it from the Indian ashram that Beatles had gone to, to get stoned and laid?

    • Replies: @Towey
  63. @Zachary Smith

    You are a lying piece of shit, so were your kike and commie loving granddaddies. The holohoax narrative is the divine punishment upon your kind. May muttmerica soon get exterminated. Same for the rest of the allies shitbags. In hell they can ponder whether the Holohoax Narrative was worth it or not

    Faggot (((democracies))) will collapse without the myth of the Holohoax.

  64. @Critical Thinking

    “Critical Thinking”

    “It would be by such authority in history that would have prevented Einstein’s discovery of relativity”

    “Einstein’s discovery”

    Is it any wonder that the (((West))) is going down the toilet? It is tiresome to even start addressing these kike mythos at this point.

    • Replies: @Zeem
  65. @Priss Factor

    Much of the post-WW2 order was constructed in light of the supposed Holocaust. If the official narrative were to fall, the collapse of so much of that order would soon follow.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  66. @Priss Factor

    There never were any real ‘Nazis’ so why call people “Sub-Nazis”? – whatever you mean by that.

    Can you or anyone describe exactly WHO these ‘Nazis’ connected to something called the ‘Holocaust’ were? — including names, titles, activities as ‘Nazis’, wore a ‘Nazi’ uniform, and confession that they considered themselves to be a ‘Nazi.’ Thanks.

    • Agree: profnasty
  67. @Realist

    If they are show me. Examples please. Show me data. Stop pushing the line or should I say with you people “pushy.”

    • Replies: @Realist
  68. I was not satisfied with Thomas Dalton’s article when I read it on The Occidental Observer (TOO) just 2 days ago, so rather than just complain I thought I should write my own. Which I did and published it on my own site the following day: https://carolynyeager.net/serious-attempts-canada-fight-whats-called-rising-antisemitism-first-law-against-holocaust-denial

    It seems that Unz Review is having a more difficult time finding good material to publish, thus picks up almost everything written at TOO within a few days of it first appearing there. If you’re a TOO reader, it’s not thrilling to find it here too — although if one is more into comments, there are more here! Ron is welcome to publish my article on this Canadian law if he wishes, LOL.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  69. @John Wear

    Thanks, this is a top-notch comment, John. Zundel’s “Letters from Cell #7” is a top-notch book, but it’s not very well known. That should be corrected. You’ve given me the idea to publicize it more. I hope it’s still available.

    • Thanks: John Wear
  70. @Carolyn Yeager

    What a kvetch you are Caroline. Always printing yourself.
    Positively Jew like if you ask me sister.

  71. Bro43rd says:
    @GMC

    And it’s called government! As MR said the “mafia writ large”.

  72. Realist says:
    @Dingo bay rum

    If they are show me. Examples please. Show me data.

    The data is widely available all over the internet and in publishing…do your own research. If you think Ashkenazi Jews, on average, are not smart where did you get that information? I have never seen data showing Ashkenazi Jews are not on average smarter than any other ethnic group.

    Stop pushing the line or should I say with you people “pushy.”

    If that is to imply that I am Jewish…then you are as bereft of insight as some of the other Jew-haters on this blog. I am a realist and as such follow scientific evidence…but I am not Jewish.

    • Replies: @cohen
    , @Dingo bay rum
  73. RobinG says:
    @Priss Factor

    But the Ukes and friends insist they’re NOT NAZIS, and Israel doth protest way, way too much.

    Israel blasts Russia’s ‘unforgivable’ comments about Holocaust
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-blasts-russia-s-unforgivable-comments-about-holocaust/ar-AAWPhkp?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9b6af3135c544122905115ef95c775bc

    Asked in an interview with an Italian news channel about Russian claims that it invaded Ukraine to “denazify” the country, Sergey Lavrov said that Ukraine could still have Nazi elements even if some figures, including the country’s president, were Jewish.

    “So when they say ‘How can Nazification exist if we’re Jewish?’ In my opinion, Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it doesn’t mean absolutely anything. For some time we have heard from the Jewish people that the biggest antisemites were Jewish,” he said, speaking to the station in Russian, dubbed over by an Italian translation.

  74. Nancy says:

    The Khazar Mafia owns our ‘eyes’, and our ‘ears’, and our ‘brain/thoughts’, and our ‘heart/emotions’. They own ‘The Truth’. And all this they have purchased with the ‘Mammon’ that Someone explained is the enemy of the Divine. Perhaps our only hope is to turn from our worship of Mammon… to what/whoever we claim as our ‘highest power’. And we have to do it together… as covid was the desperate attempt to separate, isolate us. And the ‘together’ part is the greatest challenge, imo.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  75. @John Wear

    Physical attacks on revisionists appear to have been common in earlier days. There was a Jewish Holocaust revisionist named Ginsburg who was physically beaten and his wife allegedly killed by zionists by means of arson. Another French nationalist Holocaust denier was killed by a Zionist group. In the mid twentieth century one gets the picture of an active, physical enforcement of the official Holocaust narrative. It would be an interesting essay to compile and analyze the physical attacks which have occurred. In the documentary Noam Chomsky rebel without a pause, Chomsky claims to fear right wing groups who have engaged in assassinations, and he clarified that he meant Zionist groups!

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  76. anarchyst says:
    @Jolly Roger

    A little jewish holohoax (oops, I mean holocaust™) humor…

    Q: How many jews can you fit in a Volkswagen?
    A: 4 in the seats and 10 in the ashtray.

    Q: What’s the difference between a jew and a canoe?
    A: Canoes tip.

    Q: What’s the difference between a jew and a pizza?
    A: Jews squeal in the oven.

    lol to all…

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  77. Zeem says:
    @HeebHunter

    Einstein discovered nothing. He was attempting to disprove the Michelson-Morley experiment. He failed.
    It turns out the Earth is stationary and flat. This is the other hoax which binds all of Western civilization. The Earth as round ball is the sine qua non of occidental “science”. Deny this and you are mercilessly mocked and held in contempt.
    The West is going down the toilet but not because of kikes but because you let them.

    • Agree: Towey
  78. @HdC

    This is actually the strongest and irrefutable argument to be made in opposition to laws seeking to prohibit expression of ideas.

    Another is Heinrich Heine’s observation imprinted on the spot on the Humboldt University grounds where the Nazis burned books they didn’t like in the 1930’s: “Those who burn books will soon burn people.”

    Another is to ridicule such laws such as demanding that they prohibit denial of other hisatorical facts like “Warren Commision Denial Law ” making it illegal to allege Oswald had nothing to do with the JFK hit; or Saddam Has Weapons of Mass Destruction denial laws banning anyone from claiming the charge for launching the war was a hoax made up by the Bush administration.

    There is an endless list that could be appended to any denial law to make sure that all official truths shall forever remain unchallenged.

  79. @Bardon Kaldlan

    To prop up a LIE, the Jews are forced to resort to tyranny at the highest level.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/jews-and-history-lies-galore/

  80. anarchyst says:
    @aldasfail770

    I too avoided veterans organizations observing that everyone was a SEAL or other “special operator” and that their missions were (still) “top secret”. I couldn’t stand the BS…
    That being said, I do believe that some veterans do “scam the system” especially when it comes to PTSD–once known as “shell shock” during WW2. PTSD is difficult to prove or disprove. It usually takes a few tries and appeals to achieve a claim. If one is unemployed and either living on the street or with someone else not on their own, it is easier to establish a valid claim.
    However, there are many veterans who do have valid claims (usually muscle, joint and hearing degradation issues) who never utilize the benefits that are available to them through the system. Those veterans with valid claims should pursue them. You’ve earned it…
    Many veterans do not utilize their benefits until later in years as they (and I) felt that there were others more deserving of benefits and could “live through the pain” and other health issues.
    As to the VFW, veterans of the Vietnam War were not accepted as “Vietnam was not a real war”. according to VFW leaders. That attitude changed when WW2 and Korean War veterans started dying off and the coffers started drying up.
    Veteran Service Organizations are useful in assisting veterans to file claims with the VA.

    • Agree: Jeffrey A Freeman
  81. anarchyst says:
    @Happy Tapir

    Ernst Zundel was severely beaten and his home firebombed. The Canadian authorities “looked the other way” and never investigated the incidents…
    Canada is thoroughly “zionized”…

  82. For centuries in Europe, we were christians and it was forbidden to deny the veracity of the Gospel for the catholics or the orthodoxs and the Bible fo the protestantsr. It is the same today but the Holocaust has replaced the Gospel or the Bible. Humanity has made zero progress in the search of the Truth. We are still told what we should believe and Inquisition is back checking everybody.

  83. @aldasfail770

    I had a guy in my unit who was a solid infantryman with a chest of awards any Pog would be jealous of.. Bronze Star with Valor, purple heart.. he still got caught doing stolen valor.. his BSMv became a silver star.. his purple heart became three.. he already had the kind of record a stolen valor puke might like to say they had.

    I don’t understand it.

  84. Freserf says:

    The jewish people have a history of turning their backs on god and being reprimanded. This is nothing knew. They have killed and denied the prophets and when it came time to send the son, they only did what they do best … kill him and call him the devil. Look at what they did to Stephen in the new testament. God still had those among them who were righteous, but there was nothing left to do after sending his son and them rejecting him. He withdrew his presence and allowed the city of Jerusalem to be destroyed by General Titus. That they continue to cry, “poor me” is understandable. They found something they can latch onto to build their power and influence in the world. I don’t personally hate any jew, just don’t like liars. There is much evidence that the holocaust as promoted by the jews is not what happened. So if you show them the truth on the subject they will stone you like Stephen as blasphemous and call you the devil since that is their best reply to truth. Much like the democrats of today … if you show them the truth, they will call you hitler, misogynist, bigot, racist and so on. Keep your eyes and ears open.

  85. anon[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Best way to red pill someone is to start with the Leo Frank case –
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/?highlight=Leo+Frank+Leo+Frank

    Use Ron Unz’s article

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @The_seventh_shape
  86. John B. says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Don’t you think thee fact that Eisenhower, Churchill and De Gaulle did not mention it in their War Memoires is not important. I think is vital. It is like not mentioning Dunkirk o the bombing of ESSEN, especially if they wanted to be honest and truthful.

  87. @John Wear

    Interesting comment. Thank you.

    • Thanks: John Wear
  88. Z-man says:

    The great Douglas Reed debunking the ‘hollow-hoax’ said, a long, long time ago, that Jews died in proportion with the rest of the civilian population in Europe. I forget but I think the number was around a half a million. Don’t forget some of the Jooz died fighting the Germans or Ukrainian/E. European allies, so those other numbers, however few (wry grin), weren’t civilian casualties.

  89. Canada tries so hard to be “European” – disregard those pesky walruses, polar bears, and buffalo. Concentrate on Pierre Elliot Trudeau Junior’s tossled wig (I mean hair). He’s so sophisticated.

  90. The Holocaust Deniers do have a point. The BBC states as if it were an accepted fact:

    ‘Nazi Germany murdered six million Jews in the Holocaust in World War Two.’

    No…Raul Hilberg, the dean of Holocaust historians, plumps for 5.1 million. Some other dude goes for 5.4 million. ‘Six million’ has long since ceased to be the consensus estimate for the historical event and become a declaration of submission to what amounts to a religious dogma. Thou shalt not doubt the Holocaust, and the sign of your faith shall be your willingness to repeat ‘six million.’

    Incidentally — and ironically — Israel is outraged — outraged — that a Russian stated that Hitler was part Jewish.

    Well, the final conclusion seems to be that he wasn’t, but it was a reasonable speculation. Hitler apparently ordered an investigation into it himself. But back in the day, this was seen as a criticism of Hitler, not of Jews.

  91. anarchyst says:
    @Kolya Krassotkin

    You are correct.
    Even “bomb them back to the stone age” General Curtis LeMay remarked that “if we lose this one, we will be in the court docket for war crimes”.

  92. anonym 2 says:
    @Anon

    The 4 million consisted of 3 m non Jews and 1 m Jews. In 1992 they reduced the non Jewish death’s to 500 000, but the Jewish million remained. That’s the official story anyway.
    The real number is probably around 200 000 total. Should be tragic enough, one would think.

  93. anarchyst says:
    @IronForge

    There is a solution that will never fly in today’s zionist occupied united States of America…
    U. S. “law” prohibits categorization of jews the physical counting of jews as “jews”.
    One can count Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, native Americans by tribe, Catholics, Protestants, Muslims and others but one cannot count jews.
    Census law must be changed to allow for the categorization of jews. If jews don’t like it, they can leave. Besides, (((they))) can go to israel.

    • Agree: Lancelot_Link
  94. Towey says:
    @American Bulwark

    I studied the Russian Revolution as part of my degree at a British university in the early 70s and not once was I told, or read in the recommended literature,that the Bolsheviks were Jews. It was only with the advent of the internet that I was able to discover the truth.
    I used to read crime fiction. The only fiction I could stand at the time because, as one critic said, it is the only fiction that you could be sure had a beginning, middle and end. Then I started noticing that in most books there was a throwaway reference to Nazis, fascism, the Holocaust etc. however marginal it was to the plot. Considering who the owners of the publishers are, I suppose it is a price you have to pay to get published.
    I have completely given up reading any fiction.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Replies: @HdC
    , @H. Ph. Vogel
  95. Anonymous[798] • Disclaimer says:

    I find it hilarious how the corrupt Jew controlled governments have to deal with the unfortunate (for them) fact that the original “holocaust” denier”” was actually an anti-Nazi communist (Paul Rassinier). Here’s a bit of information I found somewhere else related to the subject:

    Paul Rassinier, a commie French anti-Nazi was in a Nazi camp and he wrote about how the Jewish made up story about the holocaust is a fraud. Ron Unz and David Cole, 2 Jews also brought to light verifiable facts that destroy the fraudulent official version regarding that event.
    And Jewish Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter was one of the first people to deny the current official version of the event.
    Oh and Rabbi Moshe Aryeh Friedman (Orthodox Jewish rabbi) also has some very interesting opinions on Israel and the holocaust, apparently he called the holocaust “a successful historical fiction”.

    https://codoh.com/library/document/paul-rassinier/en/

    https://codoh.com/library/document/david-cole-in-auschwitz-the-video-of-the-century/en/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/

    https://christiansfortruth.com/jewish-supreme-court-justice-felix-frankfurter-was-one-of-the-first-american-holocaust-deniers/
    https://archive.vn/wip/M1N9L

    https://christiansfortruth.com/jews-denying-holocaust/
    https://archive.vn/z45UM

    [MORE]

    News in 2016:
    https://time.com/4392413/elie-wiesel-holocaust-survivors-remaining/
    https://archive.vn/kLGrm
    “There Are Just 100,000 Holocaust Survivors Alive Today” – By Melissa Chan,July 3, 2016 4:43 PM EDT

    News in 2020:
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/There-are-192000-Holocaust-survivors-living-in-Israel-614407
    https://archive.vn/9f7of
    “There are 192,000 Holocaust survivors living in Israel” – By DONNA RACHEL EDMUNDS JANUARY 16, 2020 20:48

    http://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/01/25/archivists-are-racing-to-identify-every-jewish-holocaust-victim
    https://archive.vn/lx26W
    “Archivists are racing to identify every Jewish Holocaust victim – On the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, just 400,000 Holocaust survivors are still alive” – The Economist, Jan 25th 2020 edition

    https://archive.vn/OhTdi
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/german-historian-who-fabricated-familys-holocaust-history-found-dead-at-31/

    https://archive.vn/7TVqK
    https://www.sott.net/article/320891-Holocaust-survivor-Joseph-Hirt-admits-he-made-up-his-story-to-keep-Holocaust-memories-alive

    https://archive.vn/nvDSc
    https://christiansfortruth.com/why-didnt-a-catastrophic-mudslide-at-babi-yar-in-1961-unearth-tens-of-millions-of-bones-of-nazi-holocaust-victims/

    https://archive.vn/a0zWv
    https://medium.com/molyneuxpost/holocaust-museum-opens-george-floyd-exhibit-396c84aaa476

    https://archive.vn/Lc0gq

    Donald Trump is featured in the Berlin Jewish Museum’s special exhibition on Golem’s from pics


    “Donald Trump is featured in the Berlin Jewish Museum’s special exhibition on Golem’s”
    High resolution archive of picture:
    https://archive.vn/xMSU2

    Black gentleman talking about slavery and the holocaust.



    Video Link

  96. Anonymous[798] • Disclaimer says:
    @anarchyst

    If the Holocaust actually happened as the official version describes, and the Allies really did save Jews from evil gas chambers, Jews should be building monuments to their White rescuers and singing their praises. Instead, they write article after article, policy after policy, about how all Whites need to be sterilized and exterminated. They are ungrateful to their liberators. Men charged into machine gun fire to save them, and now they’re telling the generations that came after that they all deserve to die for the crime of being White.

    Thus begs the following questions:
    If the official version of the Holocaust was real, and Jews hate their liberators, doesn’t that prove Hitler right about them?
    Or alternatively, if Jews feel free to attack their liberators and have no guilt in doing so, doesn’t that prove the official version of the Holocaust as being a fraud?

    • Replies: @Towey
  97. anarchyst says:

    From an engineering and logistical standpoint, NONE of the claims made by holocaust™ “survivors” and promoters is possible.
    –Killing jews with “bug spray” (Zyklon B) is not only impossible, but is laughable on its face.
    –Transporting jews to “camps”, utilizing scarce energy sources, transportation and logistical difficulties only to kill them is not only problematic but impossible as well.
    –Tattooing camp inmates only to kill them is also problematic.
    –If the “camps” were truly “death camps” why would medical facilities, recreational facilities, brothels, movie theaters, and other amenities be needed?
    –“Gas chambers” with non-sealed wooden doors and the lack of ventilation systems for such facilities, once again, disproves the claims made by holocaust™ promoters. Doors that “swing the wrong way” would make retrieval of the bodies impossible. Ordinary light fixtures, rather than explosion proof lighting fixtures are claimed to have been the norm.
    –Claims by holocaust™ promoters that gassed bodies were blue or green (rather than bright red) from poisoning are totally false.
    –Claims that the inmates could tell when jews were being cremated by the color of smoke emitted from the crematoria chimneys are patently foolish and false.
    –Let’s not forget “lampshades, wallets, soap and shrunken heads” made from jews is also laughable,
    –Crematoria running 24 hours a day, without “downtime” for maintenance on the muffles and flames “visible out of the crematoria stacks” are also impossibilities. Crematoria are designed to burn “clean” with no visible smoke and definitely no flames outside the stacks would be possible. Not only that, the claims that thousands of bodies were cremated daily are a statistical impossibility as it takes approximately 1.5 hours to cremate a human body. If cremation were used on “6 million” jews, the cremation process would have been operating into the 1950s.
    –The lack of depositories for bodies and ashes is more proof that the “camps” were not “death camps” but rather “work camps” for the German war effort.
    –Anne Frank’s “diary” partially written with a ball-point pen which was not invented till the 1950s. Time travel, anyone? lol
    –Anne Frank’s father was treated in a camp hospital and recovered. What the hell is a hospital doing in a death camp?
    Germans were (and still are) excellent engineers and would not have engineered the grievous errors that are claimed by holocaust promoters.
    Follow the shekels…

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC
    • Thanks: Towey
    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  98. DaveE says:
    @Nancy

    And we have to do it together… as covid was the desperate attempt to separate, isolate us. And the ‘together’ part is the greatest challenge, imo.

    Absolutely right. Shlomo derives his demonic power from “unity of purpose” aka Industrial Lying. Maybe we dumb Goyim can teach The Jew a lesson and beat him at his own game.

  99. If the quote, Holocaust, unquote is genuine, it should withstand every question, every doubt that’s leveled against it. And if it isn’t . . . well, it should be relegated to the shithole of history. . . .

  100. HT says:

    My current thought on the Holocaust is I regret that many of the cultural Marxist Jews in the American media, Hollywood, and the legal profession were not part of it.

  101. Towey says:
    @Anonymous

    Not only that the Israeli terrorist group Irgun killed some 200 of their British liberators in Palestine, including the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946. Some gratitude!

  102. @Realist

    Jews are 2% of the population but less than 1% of the national merit scholars in the USA. Jews are not higher IQ than whites in the USA. Israel just lies about their average scores.

    • Replies: @Realist
  103. @anarchyst

    There you go, speaking off the top of your head again, anarchyst. Ernst Zundel was never severely beaten – that was someone else. Or maybe two or three someone else’s but not Ernst. You’re obviously too old and confused for this work, and should quit before you do even more serious damage than you already have. It’s not like you know things no one else does.

    Stick to religion.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  104. @cohen

    It is obvious from your comment that you wouldn’t understand Einstein’s equations. Most people don’t. I don’t understand them either but I understand the ideas behind them. Einstein came to the US because he wanted to get away from the Nazis. If you want to denigrate Jews, go ahead, but you accomplish nothing when you pick on Einstein. Soros on the other hand is an example of a Jew who was willing to sell out his own people for money from the Nazis. Say all the bad things you want about Soros and his ilk.

    • Replies: @Cohen
  105. @thotmonger

    The walls are made skin bound by hair.

  106. Fr. John says:

    All one an say to this charade, is what Galileo is purported to say, after the “Inquisition” rode him over the rails, ‘Ma, Eppure, si muove” (But yes, it (the world) DOES move).

    To be a Christian is to call JEWS, LIARS. And the greatest lie, is the fallacy of a HOLLOW HOAX.

    NEGO, NEGO, NEGO!

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @Towey
  107. cohen says:
    @Realist

    Can you imagine if the so called Ashkanize kids AKA Khazarian Mafia kids were good at Spelling Bee contest or any other for that matter there would be tons of movies and novels and poor US school kids would be forced to read achievements of the hall of famers. And as you decreed that spelling Bee is rotten… why? What is your argument if so than why not abandon it.
    Can you provide SAT score?????

    If people ask you for supporting data, then naturally you guys will use your birth right slogan…..
    Anti Semite, Anti Semitism. It is like pulling cross in front of Dracula to fend him off. This magic and holy word neutralizes every truth.

    Just like the Plagiarist in-chief in the 1920s called his critics and scientist from Bell Labs including Tesla Anti Semites.
    Your superstar Greenspan and Ashkanazi grown up! the poor guy had difficulty putting words together while testifying in any Senate hearing. Also confirmed by Iowa Senator Tom Harkins who disgustingly said “the guy does not know what he was talking about”

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Happy Tapir
  108. gregor says:
    @Zachary Smith

    “That said, the rest of the piece appears to be the standard Denial BS”

    Most of the comment section doesn’t seem to believe in The Holocaust, so if you’ve got something good you should probably share it. Otherwise it just looks like you’re bluffing.

    • Replies: @Zachary Smith
  109. Jon Chance says: • Website

    Like most people, I was hypnotized into believing Adolf Hitler was “Evil” largely by being exposed only to photographs of him with ZERO SMILING.

    Mein Side of the Story began to break the spell:

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25415123-mein-side-of-the-story

    Hilter smiles:

    https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/adolf-hitler-smiling

    Nevertheless, it’s essential to understand that Hitler and the Nazis were useful idiots for Jews and the British Empire:

  110. How come we do not have an international day for all the other terrible times in history?

  111. cohen says:
    @Anon

    Thank you and thank you to put the picture because the link does not have such an effect. I hope people this gem on Washington Compost or Jew York Times. Funny thing is that the revised numbers were published in Israeli Newspapers in early 1990s. Not in US

    According to Russian Archives in Moscow the number is around 333,000. Unfortunately, when I was there in January it was too much ice and of course big boogeyman Covid. A friend/translator was too busy. New Public Library has a copy of the archives purchased after fall of USSR.
    Great post. Thanks. Shove these numbers to Schumuck Shumer, Pelosi and the ADL. Dont forget Fat Pampeo.

  112. gregor says:
    @Rogue

    I think Lipstadt counts survivor testimony as documentation. And maybe secondary scholarship as well. Certainly the number of Holocaust books dwarfs the number on just about anything else.

    Because of all the Nuremberg trials there are a lot of German documents. The Jewish policies in Germany from 1933-1945 are pretty well-documented in general, and today Jews tend to think of the whole period as part of “the Holocaust,” so in that sense you could call it well-documented. But the details about the final solution and the secret death camps and gas chambers and millions killed are precisely where they are forced to rely on doubtful postwar testimony.

    • Thanks: Rogue
    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @HdC
    , @Skeptikal
    , @Skeptikal
  113. Allan says:

    There should be no doubt that some powerful people want to criminalize any public scepticism in the USA about the alleged Holocaust. So here’s some background info about the USA’s new “Disinformation” commissar:

    Central Jersey: “HILLSBOROUGH: Nina Jankowicz to marry Michael Stein in spring”

    Wikipedia at 09:00 UTC on 1 May: “She is married to Michael Stein.”

    Wikipedia at 17:45 UTC on 2 May: No info about marital status or husband. Ancestry and family history still obscured.

    wiczipedia.com: “In 2016-17, she advised the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry on disinformation and strategic communications under the auspices of a Fulbright-Clinton Public Policy Fellowship.”

    “She is fluent in Russian, and speaks proficient Ukrainian and Polish, and serves on the Board of Trustees for the Eurasia Foundation.”

    “She lives outside of Washington, DC with her husband, dog, and cat.”

    Nina Jankowicz Biography at Wealthy Spy: “Religion Jewish”

    Washington Examiner: [Jewish] DHS secretary defends disinformation board and its ‘neutral’ leader

    • Thanks: Skeptikal, turtle
  114. ebear says:

    Russian victims of the Nazis far exceeded Jewish losses. Current estimates run between 20 and 27 million. To date, Russia has not made it compulsory to believe a particular number, or to be prosecuted for stating a number below the lower boundary. I guess the sheer scale of the tragedy, and the irrefutable evidence thereof, is enough to satisfy Russian sensibilities.

    Curiously, both Russia and the Western nations have laws banning Nazism, although it appears Russia is the only nation willing to do something about its resurgence. The rest are engaged in Nazi denial or are actively supporting them. I guess we’ll see how that plays out once evidence from Ukraine is formally presented to the world.

  115. Towey says:
    @Fr. John

    But Michelson Morely proved that the earth didn’t move 150 years ago. Galileo was wrong.

    • Replies: @Right_On
  116. Anon[129] • Disclaimer says:

    The biggest proof of its falsity is ((((their))) need of it to prevent us from commenting on thier total control of our media/ politicians: Ask yourself these questions
    1. If it didn’t happen as (((they))) say, would they have at least exaggerated it?
    2. What group is uniquely positioned to manufacture public opinion through entertainment/ movies about this very subject?

    One last question: Would (((they))) have be allowed to do what they’ve done to us,without this foundational myth?

    Add to this their hysteria when anyone wishes to objectively investigate thier highly dubious claims, and you have your answer: mostly false

  117. @darius

    The Zionazis like their Sabbat Goy slaves aggressive. As an Israeli commenting on Lavrov’s faux pas said, Russia is condemned for annexing Crimes (translating from the gibberish-liberating it at its people’s request)because it is an ‘authoritarian’ State, whereas Israel is allowed to illegally occupy Palestine and keep millions in internment camps, for decades, because it is a ‘democracy’ (ie it and its Diaspora Fifth columns buy Western politicians by the gross).

  118. eah says:
    @anarchyst

    >Ernst Zundel was severely beaten and his home firebombed.

    While an arsonist did target Zündel’s house, perhaps you are confusing Zündel with Robert Faurisson, who was seriously injured by attackers in France:

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  119. Rogue says:
    @gregor

    Yes, that is the point I was trying to make.

    I’m no expert on the Holocaust story.

    However, if one hears that “this is the most documented thing blah blah” then I’ll assume most people will assume that smoking gun evidence is overwhelming.

    Except, as much as I can tell, this is simply NOT TRUE.

    The documentary evidence that is supposedly so utterly overwhelming is NOT based on the German archives – nor on the archives of any of the other WW2 countries.

    To say the least, the bold assertion of “most documented event in history” is thoroughly disingenuous.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  120. Realist says:
    @cohen

    And as you decreed that spelling Bee is rotten… why?

    How do you dream up such nonsense? If you are referring to my use of the word rote…you better look it up, before commenting.

    Can you provide SAT score?????

    Can you?????

    Anti Semite, Anti Semitism. It is like pulling cross in front of Dracula to fend him off. This magic and holy word neutralizes every truth.

    Again, you lack the ability to read or understand what you read. I have never used the terms Anti Semite, Anti Semitism in anything I write.

    Just like the Plagiarist in-chief in the 1920s called his critics and scientist from Bell Labs including Tesla Anti Semites.

    I have no idea what you are referring to…do you?

    Your superstar Greenspan and Ashkanazi grown up! the poor guy had difficulty putting words together while testifying in any Senate hearing.

    Greenspan is not my superstar. I do not believe in the study of economics whether espoused by a Jew or gentile. The subject is too complex for predictions to be of any value.

    Also confirmed by Iowa Senator Tom Harkins who disgustingly said “the guy does not know what he was talking about”

    If there is one endeavor more useless than economics it is being a…member of the Congress….and that includes Harkin.

  121. GeneralRipper [AKA "GKWillie"] says:

    Q: If Jonathan Greenblatt ( aka Montgomery Burns ) was rendered into soap, what would it be called?

    A: Lever 6,000,000

  122. @Gordon Pratt

    What an ugly thing to say to a child!

    • Replies: @anon
  123. Realist says:
    @James Scott

    Jews are 2% of the population but less than 1% of the national merit scholars in the USA.

    Where did you find such goofy crap?

    Jews are not higher IQ than whites in the USA.

    In the U.S. Ashkenazi Jews, on average, have a significantly higher IQ than gentiles.

  124. the UN resolution […] first defines the Holocaust as an event “which resulted in the murder of nearly 6 million Jews, 1.5 million of whom were children.”

    Extraordinary, isn’t it. We have been told many times that the holo was 6m Jews, and no argument or discussion allowed. Now it’s “nearly 6m”! Is this kosher? I would have thought that True Exterminationists would be howling against this whittling of the 6m number.

    “murder” and “6 million” it’s very specific.

  125. Cohen says:
    @Colin Wright

    Colon the self delusional and a legend in his own mind

    you showed up again. I thought you ADL folks gave you one way ticket to Israel. You still think the 5.1-5.4 million died in Holohoux.
    First who asked you to think. This thinking business is not your area of expertise. You may get migraines. Have you ever been to Auschwitz? If you have not that stop this speculative BS. I have…. Dont pretend that you are well read may be in Deep south like Mississippi.

    I remember your old comments regarding David Irwin WWII books that you claimed to be trash (your words). His books are recommended books in West Point. (No it is not in Idaho) and Columbus helped the natives. Whites build this country while the blacks, Chinese, and Irish sat under the shades and drank lemonade.

    I think you are a perfect candidate for medical research and no one would shed a tear.

    Oh I forgot. Are you still jerking off in front of your poor cat. I hope you did not use the sanitizer that was supplied free of cost during the Pandemic. I am looking forward to see your self delusional comments again. Peace. What can i say.

  126. HdC says:
    @gregor

    From what I read, none, or very few, of the documents presented as evidence during the Nuremberg war crimes trials, have any original documents backing them.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    , @eah
  127. Skeptikal says:
    @gregor

    How well are the incidents that take place in CIA torture centers documented?
    How well are incidents that took place in prisons in Iraq documented?
    How well are activities in Guantanamo documented?
    How well are atrocities committed by ISIS in Syria documented?
    How well was the life in the Soviet Gulag documented?
    How well are any abhorrent activities documented?
    In all of such cases, first-person accounts are considered evidence.

    There is generally a good reason for keeping things secret and destroying “official” evidence.
    See how well it is working?

    In relative terms the activities at various concentration camps seem to be pretty well documented.

  128. HdC says:
    @Towey

    Hmmm, that explains things! Several years ago I read a study about the differences between Canadians and Americans. I recall it to be a quite serious study with observations that I could agree with.
    And right in the middle of that serious text, the author or, more likely the editor, placed off-the-wall comments regarding the holocaust.
    I was so taken aback and irritated that I wanted to write to the author and let him know how this unsupported comment cheapened his study and, on the basis of “error in one, error in all”, (a legal premise as to the value of testimony), could be dismissed as rubbish.

    • Replies: @Towey
  129. @Jolly Roger

    Next time, add some tea. You’ll find a rabbit fits in the oven much better.

  130. anarchyst says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Serious damage?
    You’ve got to be kidding.
    You don’t need to insult other commenters to get your point across. Yes, I have been wrong on some things in the past and do appreciate corrections by others in a civilized manner.Even by you…

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  131. anarchyst says:
    @eah

    Thank you for the correction. It is greatly appreciated.
    Thanks for being civil, unlike commenter Caroline Yeager.
    Best regards,

  132. If there is a valid and real definition of an “antisemite,” in truth it can only be one thing; someone who knows the Jews hate him.

  133. @Realist

    How do you measure IQ?

    • Replies: @Realist
  134. gregor says:
    @Colin Wright

    I don’t think there can be any true middle ground on this issue. Either the German state had a policy of literal mass execution of Jews or it didn’t. A slaughter on such a scale cannot occur in a haphazard of spontaneous manner. It would have to have been a major effort that would have to have been managed and prioritized throughout the war.

    Most people accept or pretend to accept the standard version, mostly by default. Then among those who have looked into it in some detail a pretty significant portion end up favoring revisionist interpretations and virtually everyone in this category ends up concluding that it’s almost entirely false. Once you begin doubting any of it, it’s very hard to stop the rest of the dominoes from falling. The problems are foundational, not merely questions of magnitude.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  135. GeneralRipper [AKA "GKWillie"] says:
    @Realist

    As an ancient despairing pussy, who has long ago decided “if your can’t beat em’. join em’ “, why do you think White Christian Civilization walked on the Moon, while Israel despite all their supposed brilliant Jewish minds, stolen tech and trillions of dollars from the Goyim couldn’t even manage to land an unmanned probe on the Lunar surface?

    It takes MUCH more than IQ scores to make a great civilization, dipshit.

    No fool like an old fool…lol

    (Heads up to Franny Taubman, who, in typical Jew fashion is busy taking credit for the achievements of Western Christian Civilization, even while doing their level best to destroy it)

    • Replies: @Realist
  136. Skeptikal says:
    @gregor

    ” The Jewish policies in Germany from 1933-1945 are pretty well-documented in general, and today Jews tend to think of the whole period as part of “the Holocaust,””

    I expect this is true, and this is a point that I take exception to.

    The period from 1933–ca. 1938 is little understood by most people who freely comment on and label “the Holocaust.” I think this term is in fact quite misleading and its introduction into mainstream discourse was certainly a PR coup.

    Back to 1933–38, the fact is that alongside the passage of anti-Jewish laws in this period, a lot of other things were going on, a lot of other people were persecuted, sent to reeducation camps, etc. besides Jews; a lot of other totalitarian laws that affected all Germans were passed; but a lot of policies were fluid and the Nazi state was still unsure what it wanted to do with different groups. For starters, the T4 program targeted substandard German citizens of any kind, not just Jews (BTW, most of the detailed specific information that I am aware of on the T4 program is in German).

    IMO the term “Holocaust” almost seems designed to obscure the actual history of the Third Reich. This history is a lot more complex than either the so-called deniers and the “Holocaust” defenders acknowledge. Many aspects of this history are ignored or sidelined to uphold the one narrative. The word “Holocaust” has become like a battle flag. One side carries it aloft, the other side seeks to shoot it down. It is, simply, not a useful historical term. So most of the energy that swirls around it does not and cannot further any actual historical inquiry and sincere attempts at understanding the trajectory of the Third Reich.

    (These limited understandings become the shaky basis for cliches that are then deployed to interpret current events—e.g., the new analytical “tool” labeled “mass formation.” )

  137. Cohen says:
    @David Homer

    Yes you are right I wont understand all that BS about Einstein Plagiarized work. 20 pages of equations, give me a break. I can understand after some effort work of Tesla or Richard Feynman.
    Tesla invented items that made impact and of course he wrote poem about the great plagiarist. Comparing him to a clown in a purple gown and the fools taking him for a king *google pleas*
    E-MC2 if it is your man’s equation which in reality is someone else.

    [MORE]

    OK so one pound of horse shit (M, weight or mass) when multiplied with speed of light (C with sqr) will give enough energy (to solve our energy problem). All this abstract BS and there are fools who take pleasure to talk about such BS. and feel intellectually superior.

    You could find some Plagiarism examples in Encyclopedia of Britannica where one could see the original contributors who published their work before Plagiarist did word for word. Einstein did not have any references or bibliography in his papers pretending that he thought all this stuff himself.
    Dont forget his Serbian wife’s work helping him. The guy failed twice in Engineering entrance exam. Lowest grades in his school. But he was Einstein, he was allowed to fail. Sitting in a Patent office in Switzerland and reading other’s work made him the greatest mind ever lived.

    God forbid if this guy would have come up with the concept of zero the whole world would be thrown of its orbit with the noise and praises. It is our ethical duty to stand up and tell our fellow humans the truth. That is why I take the time to read and try to share what I have read. And of course I am labelled as anti semite like other who tried to expose the fraud. So be it.
    ,
    Did you read Einstein letter to FDR. Focus on the 2nd page. You could learn the politics of that era. Oppenheimer did not want this guy near Manhattan Project. Einstein wanted to head the project and ready to finance through his Banking connection in Germany. He was not even considered for a security check up because people involved in the project did not want him around.

    There are about six well researched books “The manufacture and Sale of St. Einstein” It is above my head but I get a few point here and there. Go far it.

    • Replies: @Realist
  138. Skeptikal says:
    @Rogue

    Well, there are also Polish and Russian archives to consider.

    Also, a lot of German archives have yet to be opened for public scrutiny.

    For instance, police archives were opened up or partially opened up fairly recently.

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @Ron Unz
  139. How do they teach the Holocaust to High School students? Is there a standard text or guide?

    • Replies: @anon
  140. Agent76 says:

    Dec 23, 2018 I Survived the Holocaust as a baby – Now I fight to ensure this horror is NEVER forgotten

    She was born in Budapest in July 1944. She and her mother were sent to the ghetto there in November 1944 and were liberated in January 1945.

    March 14, 2019 100 Years Later, Mussolini’s Fascist Party a Reminder of the Fragility of Freedom

    The dictator’s life offers deep, cautionary insights for contemporary politics.

    https://fee.org/articles/100-years-later-mussolinis-fascist-party-a-reminder-of-the-fragility-of-freedom/

    Feb 4, 2017 The rise of Hitler 1919-1929: revision for IGCSE & GCSE History exams

    This revision podcast is relevant to both GCSE and IGCSE History students studying Nazi Germany.

  141. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Badger Down

    What an ugly thing to say to a child!

    I compiled a dossier of essays on The holocaust composed by middle-school children at a public school in a midwestern (purple) state.

    That was about 8 years ago.

    They are now of voting age.

    Enforced holocaust education in US public schools is far more offensive and dangerous than CRT.

  142. Jim H says:
    @Rich

    ‘Having to pass a law to prove an historical event took place is an admission that the event never took place.’ — Rich

    Axiomatically true.

    The truth don’t need laws to support it.

    Why do Jews compulsively lie?

  143. anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @9/11 inside job

    In the state of the Middle School students mentioned above, Jewish groups conduct weekend conferences at their community centers or synagogues; teachers are invited to attend to “learn how to teach holocaust.”

    Jewish groups also hold week-long (or more) seminars, frequently in Washington, DC (or, I suppose, other major cities) during the Summer. Middle School and high school teachers are encouraged to attend, frequently subsidized by their school district. The teacher of the Middle School students mentioned had attended one of those week-long training sessions.

    Several Jewish billionaires have had syllabuses as well as teaching materials — texts, videos and the like — prepared for sale to school districts. Seth Klarman sponsored “Facing Our History” which is heavy on ‘white people bad, they killed Jews.’ Even my Catholic high school uses Facing Our History.
    https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/image/seth-klarman-co-chair-board-trustees

    There are numerous other outlines of How to teach holocaust; they’ve been prepared by various Jewish groups and sold to school districts.
    https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/deep-shtetl/61f2d85e9277230021adb432/the-good-news-about-the-holocaust-education-in-america/

    https://www.nj.gov/education/holocaust/curriculumn/materials/

    I’ve even seen a syllabus for holocaust education for use by home schoolers.

    https://mjhnyc.org/blog/help-for-homeschooling-a-guide-to-the-museums-online-lesson-plans-and-resources/

  144. @HdC

    That is true. The “important” ones anyway are usually very poor “copies,” without proper authorization or signatures, where the originals are said to be lost! No sign of one anywhere. Who falls for this?
    Most people do, that’s who. They cannot resist the voice of authority – like the UN, the well-paid historians, the media stories about WWII. Even some anonymous commenter at a place like this will be believed if he handles himself well, just because he sounds convincing. People are incredibly ready to “believe” but we actually believe what we WANT to believe — much more than we realize.

    A good source on Lies at war crimes trials is Carlos Whitlock Porter, who is a professional translator and an honest man. I know him personally, he’s helped me a lot, I can attest to his character. He put most of his collected writing into books he self-published. They were at Amazon – Check out this page https://www.amazon.com/Carlos-Porter/e/B0034OLVTI%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share Only a few of his books are there, and some excellent videos.

    The book I have is “WAR CRIMES TRIALS and other essays” which has a lot of information on documents. Another publication of his I value is “Not Guilty at Nuremberg: The German Defense Case.” I doubt that one is available anymore, but maybe.

    • Thanks: HdC
  145. @RJ Macready

    1) There are not many photos of skeletal bodies; the same photos are repeatedly shown. Each photo shows a few hundred bodies; not a thousand, not a hundred thousand. As a child, I wondered why they were naked. My parents said it was because of lice and typhus: also a major cause for them to be so skinny. The photos are shocking, but do not even begin to prove that a million people died, let alone that “6m Jews were murdered”. The photos do not prove the holocaust. Not at all.

    2) Torture, and death-threats to their wives and children, made the Germans testify. The second part of your second question is hard to decipher. If the police interrogate you at length about a triple murder in your town, are you going to talk about the triple murder? Perhaps you would say “I was not aware of what was happening at the chambers on the other side of my town.” Maybe the Pizza Guy would say “Sure, I delivered a pizza to that street where the murder was.”

    A word of advice: Keep clear in your mind that number of deaths doesn’t mean number killed or number murdered. The holocaust insists: six million Jews murdered! Ask any holocaust museum.

    • Agree: John Wear
  146. @cohen

    Are you saying people at bell labs and Tesla criticized Einstein? What specifically did they say? References. I’m truly curious, not mocking you.

  147. @anarchyst

    You don’t think it’s serious damage to say that E.Z. was seriously beaten when he wasn’t, when you are a person who comments as a “revisionist” in many places ‘all the time’ and expects to be taken as some kind of amateur expert? I think it is. Also, other busy people have to take the time to correct your false statements (often!) .

    I didn’t insult you, I told the truth that you won’t tell. The truth often feels like an insult. People can hide behind screen names only so much, but you can fool yourself.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  148. Realist says:
    @9/11 inside job

    How do you measure IQ?

    If you don’t know…you are on the far left side.

    Google it.

  149. Realist says:
    @GeneralRipper

    why do you think White Christian Civilization walked on the Moon, while Israel despite all their supposed brilliant Jewish minds, stolen tech and trillions of dollars from the Goyim couldn’t even manage to land an unmanned probe on the Lunar surface?

    The state of Israel does not have the number of people to support an economy large enough to go to the moon. And perhaps they have other priorities.

    It takes MUCH more than IQ scores to make a great civilization, dipshit.

    No fool like an old fool…lol

    You have never been involved in making a great civilization…just a leech on the ass of Western Civilization…shithead.

  150. Right_On says:
    @Towey

    Michelson Morely proved that the earth didn’t move

    A delightfully unorthodox interpretation of their experimental findings!
    I shall never forgive Michelson, Morley and Einstein for depriving us of the expression “luminiferous aether”. It has such a mellifluous sound.

    • Replies: @Towey
  151. @gregor

    Otherwise it just looks like you’re bluffing.

    If that’s the way it “looks”, then so be it. All I have is a few yards of first-class WW2 history books, but they would mean nothing to people who are already locked into their personal reality.

    You are a lying piece of shit, so were your kike and commie loving granddaddies. The holohoax narrative is the divine punishment upon your kind. May muttmerica soon get exterminated. Same for the rest of the allies shitbags. In hell they can ponder whether the Holohoax Narrative was worth it or not

    How much time would you spend trying to convince a person like this – of anything?

    People who have decided to declare the 1969 Moon Landing a hoax aren’t going to change their mind, not even if given a good telescope which will show the laser reflectors left by the Apollo 11 and 14 missions.

    The 9/11 Deniers who have built a fantasy world of “nano-thermite” and “micro-nukes” like their construction, and all the years since the event have shown that mere facts won’t move them.

    I don’t “debate” with people who believe the world was created over a stretch of 6 days in 4004 BC either.

    Life is too short to worry about things like this:

    https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.pF4oFL2GoQRsrMa4_Zp4zAHaEd&pid=Api

  152. Realist says:
    @Cohen

    I can understand after some effort work of Tesla or Richard Feynman.

    You do realize Feynman was a Jew???

    Tesla invented items that made impact and of course he wrote poem about the great plagiarist. Comparing him to a clown in a purple gown and the fools taking him for a king *google pleas*

    Tesla did some amazing work in electromagnetism…but was out of his element with theoretical physics. Einstein was head and shoulders above Tesla.

    Your comments are a mix of gobbledegook and goofy shit. You are either drunk or stupid…or both.

    • Replies: @GoySoy
  153. I really find the products are superior in every way. Even with my tough reptilian hide that old german soap from the 40’s did fantastic things to my and mate’s skin. We bathed our offspring with it and it kept them young. Furthermore, the lampshades we got back then coverted that irritating incandescent light into a spectrum of soothing and healing illumination. It’s a shame these products were discontinued. Does anyone know where we might able to get them. I asked my cousins in the Amazon Basin and they can’t find them either.

  154. JackOH says:
    @Tom Welsh

    Tom, you’re right, of course, and I think these efforts to raise the standard-issue Holocaust narrative to the level of officially protected state dogma/supernal evil will likely increase the likelihood that our Western liberal democracies will engage in or check off on atrocities of their own.

    I think the exculpatory logic will run something like this: yes, those nasty Germans and their associates committed awful, unequaled crimes 80 years ago because they were motivated by base passions of revenge and racialist solidarity.

    We modern Western liberal democrats, on the other hand, have higher motives, so our aggressive diplomacy and gratuitous invasions of other countries in the service of plebiscitary democracy are okay. Our atrocities in the service of that cause are regrettable and forgettable, that’s all. It’s a short-sighted, scurvy racket.

  155. anarchyst says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    I thanked you for the correction. You insulted me claiming that my age made my mind feeble. You might take heed of the way commenter eah corrected my error.
    For Christ’s sake, BE NICE! We are all here to seek truth.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  156. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @GMC

    You left out the Illiminati, trilateral commisdion, Freemasons, ROsicrucians, Rockefeller Foundation and PBS.

  157. @gregor

    ‘I don’t think there can be any true middle ground on this issue. ‘

    Well, yeah. There isn’t a true middle ground — but there are positions other than batshit-crazy unreasoning fanaticism.

    For example, one can — as you do — doubt it happened. However, it’s not necessary to hector and abuse all who disagree with you, as some do.

    At the other side of the divide, one can decide the Holocaust did occur — but grant that others may choose to attempt to show otherwise if they like. One can even question is the event was all that unique. All sorts of mass slaughters have occurred — several of them on a far greater scale and many of them more or less comparable. One can say the gas chambers at Auschwitz were real, or one can say they were fake. One can also say, ‘what about it?’

    It’s certainly not necessary to prevent people from saying it didn’t happen if they feel like it.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  158. Rogue says:
    @Skeptikal

    OK, so do the Polish and Russian archives reveal any kind of hard evidence for the 6 million number, or homicidal gas chambers?

    Of course, many Jews were shot (murdered) behind the lines on the Eastern Front. I doubt it’s possible to know how many exactly. I don’t think anyone trying to be honest about this period of history would deny this. But when most people think “Holocaust”, they think gas chambers and 6 million murdered Jews.

    As for the German archives, they would have been subject to as much Allied scrutiny as was desired in the several years following the end of WW2.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  159. gsjackson says:

    OT — but only sort of, because there is breaking news about the actual American holocaust. Roe v Wade is reportedly going to be overturned. Finally, Trump’s appointees earned their pay. This is a huge deal, but I’m cynical enough to suspect that the real reason it’s being done is to clear the constitutional path for mandatory jabs by eliminating the ‘our bodies our choice’ meme.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  160. The world wants to criminalize holocaust denial, not so much because there is overwhelming evidence that supports the reality of the Holocaust and just wants to stymie any facts that might prove that the Holocaust and the mass murder of Jews is a lie. The Christian world has made the character of the deniers the issue. You deniers are a really hated people. The Christians (the greater world) has concluded that holocaust denial at its core is but more about Jew hatred, then Holocaust denial. Not just Jew hatred in its pure form, but your mercurial insistence that the people (the Jews) promoting this hoax must be evil and satanic group, a group of people so evil that that a new Holocaust must arise to this time get the job done. That is what the world really fears, that you will stoke the flames of Jew hatred, and unfortunately the Christian world has had it lock stock and barrel with Jew hatred of any kind.

    The other myth that you keep perpetuating which really makes the world want to lock you up and throw away the key, is your insistence that the real victims were not the Jews but the saintly Germans that the Jews conspired against. That really gets the people that served in WW2.

    At heart I think all you deniers get this, although you keep insisting if only the Zionist were not conspiring to suppress the information, that if the world could only see your facts they would agree with you. My message to all you wannabe Jew hating deniers is don’t quit your day job and stay anonymous. And don’t give me that bull about how you are after the truth and don’t hate Jews. LOL Just look at the back of Thomas Dalton PHD, Philospher (LOL)at Univeristy he can not name, and tell me this guy is an objective denier and presenter of facts. If you do not believe me try reading the back of his book covers to friends and see their reactions.

    You are a hated lot by the greater Christian, Hindu, Jewish world.

    I personally would like to see a few of you top Jew hater denial dogs test out the gas chambers to see if they work and then find out how much coal it takes to cremate your sorry asses. And don’t let the vacuum tight sealed gas chamber door hit you in the behind.

  161. Hey Professor Dalton. I am a Jew and my hygiene is good. I shower everyday. If you want to know why country after country wants to lock you up as criminals and not let you into their countries just read the back cover of your books. Free speech is okay, but know one wants another holocaust.

    That Jews have long had a negative reputation is common knowledge. The causes for this are plentiful, ranging from their anti-Christian theology and social exclusivity to arrogance, conceit, greed, maliciousness, and even personal hygiene. Their belligerence and animosity are legendary. But less well known is their involvement in war.

    When we examine the causal factors for war, we repeatedly find a prominent Jewish presence. Throughout history, Jews have played an exceptionally active role in promoting and inciting war. With their long-notorious influence in government, we find recurrent instances of Jews promoting hardline stances, being uncompromising, and actively inciting people to hatred. Jewish misanthropy has led them, time and again, to instigate warfare if it served their larger interests. This fact explains much about the present-day world.

    This book examines in detail the Jewish hand in the two world wars. Along the way, it dissects Jewish motives and Jewish strategies for maximizing gain amidst warfare, reaching back centuries. It concludes with a brief analysis of more recent wars, and with a look to the future.

    We cannot prevent war until we acknowledge its causes. Some of these causes are rooted in human nature, but others are very deliberate, very strategic actions by a malicious few. The Jewish Hand in the World Wars sheds some badly needed light on this entire question.

    • Replies: @HdC
  162. DNA999 says:

    Thanks for the article. It amazes me how so many posters are so closed to known and knowable facts (incised into the logic train helps their standing) and go directly into the simpleton’s race blowback retorts as their best Trump card that blows everything they take personal offense to away. I don’t post much, but I prefer to add something of value when I do, just an idea here and there.

    [MORE]

    We see clearer how every action and word of jewry is made holier and holier by the decade. Now, to add more oomph they split the sacred sex, oh, six into kid-victims (kids is appropriate given jewry are goats), but still maintain the sacred sex, oh, six via the 1+5. As the live and unbeastified know, this is unprovable fiction, but why split the sex, oh, six into kids sex, oh, six and add this devise now. Hide the sacred hairy tale into a budget bill, that’s so jwi\$H. Pass the fiats to passover into lore the nailing down of the sacred nail itself.
    Y’see readers, the jew mind is not like whiteys, it is occulted, QBLH’d, Talmud basted, Torah soaked, reb molded, coup cut, oven cooked, hung out to dry in its own radioactive afterglow, and its acts ought be interpd as flavoured by all that.

    Simply, sex, oh, six is the VAU, is the Nail they use to self-crucify as Victim-Forever [not to cross/”don’t cross them”] v.1.1 ‘bowl begging for sympathy’ now with addendum of kid victims (alike the Khazar-Gypsy mutilated kids, only good for emotional pulling) to elicit even more tears of ‘white-shame’, and maybe concocted of a sense of ‘fall in sympathy donations’.
    1.5 maintains the self saucing sacrifice VAU Nail even to half the Tet formula of YHWH/HWHY of YOD-HE. The cut down kiddy version of Jews God, the Tet AI, Archon, ALHM or whatever the fck it is. VAU for kiddy-formula becomes YOD/YODH, the little VAU.

    Pass beast CND (add AAA-rating into the canned) fiat notes Bill to pass the fresh sympathy nails in situ for more holy hache hammering hodowns of any and all dissent. Absolute conformity required pre AI Neurallink ‘hiving’ into the YHWH MAINFRAME. They are loading the rail cars with hivers and the rest will be dealt with via what is and what more will come.
    This ‘weeding out’ is getting ugly as sin and very Revelational.
    But I didn’t take Dr Goldberg’\$ recom meds today so ignore all that crazy, huh.

    Only rational retorts posters. Rise above the – “I hate what you say so I hate you for saying it and you need jewmeds to see straight.”

  163. Rogue says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Nobody serious disputes that many Jews were killed in WW2. Nobody serious disputes that the Nazi regime was anti-Jewish in it’s ideology.

    Speaking for myself, I’m not pro Hitler or pro Nazi. The Nazi regime was anti-Christian at it’s ideological core, and is therefore something I reject.

    However, truth does matter. And the historical event that is completely set in stone – never to be questioned – does not exist.

    I am not sure to what extent the “Holocaust” happened. What I do know is that revisionists (conveniently written off as deniers – therefore you’re either a true believer or a heretic) have a valid argument to make based on all available evidence. You know, like every other historical event.

    However, why is it that this one historical event is beyond investigation, other than to yet more affirm the official narrative?

    My issue is the curtailing of free speech and expression. With the Holocaust narrative the precedent has already been set to make illegal or ban “wrong-views”. What else down the pike might be considered to be convenient to add to this precedent?

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Replies: @turtle
  164. Towey says:
    @HdC

    Sorry, but I don’t understand the point. The Michelson Morely experiment was repeated various times by different scientists with the same result. Michelson Morely originally firmly believed in the rotation of the earth about the sun and set out to measure the speed. They were very disconcerted by the results. Then Einstein came up with his theory of relativity in an attempt to explain the results away.

    • Agree: inspector general
  165. Towey says:

    When is there going to be a serious investigation into the fact that between 1934 and 1948 the European Christian population declined by 100 million whereas the Jewish population remained relatively stable at 15million despite massive emigration to the USA and Israel?

    • Replies: @SC Rebel
  166. Towey says:
    @Right_On

    Is the fact that in the training manual used by pilots they are told to assume that the earth is flat and stationary, also an unorthodox interpretation?

  167. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “The other myth that you keep perpetuating which really makes the world want to lock you up and throw away the key, is your insistence that the real victims were not the Jews but the saintly Germans that the Jews conspired against.”

    My response: A conservative estimate of German deaths in the Allied POW camps is 1.5 million. This includes over 517,000 POW deaths in the Soviet Union, 100,000 POW deaths in Yugoslavia, Poland and other countries, with the remaining POW deaths in U.S. and French camps. The Germans who died in these Allied POW camps suffered miserably from exposure, disease and slow starvation. This well-documented Allied atrocity is still denied by most historians today.

    Probably a minimum of 2.1 million German expellees died after World War II in what was supposed to be an “orderly and humane” transfer. The estimate of 2.1 million German expellee deaths is acknowledged to be valid by most traditional historians. Notable authorities have estimated a much higher number of German expellee deaths. For example, Konrad Adenauer, the first Chancellor of West Germany, estimated that 6 million German expellees died. Adenauer stated:

    “According to American figures a total of 13.3 million Germans were expelled from the Eastern parts of Germany, from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and so on. 7.3 million [German expellees] arrived in the Eastern zone and the three Western zones, most of these in the latter. Six million Germans have vanished from the earth. They are dead, gone. Most of the 7.3 million who stayed alive are women, children, and old people.” (Source: Adenauer, Konrad, Memoirs, 1945-1953, translated by Beate Ruhm von Oppen, Chicago: Henry Regnery Co., 1966, p. 148).

    An estimated 5.7 million Germans already residing in Germany also died from the starvation policies implemented by the Allies. James Bacque details how this 5.7 million death total is calculated:

    “The population of all occupied Germany in October 1946 was 65,000,000, according to the census prepared under the ACC. The returning prisoners who were added to the population in the period October 1946-September 1950 numbered 2,600,000 (rounded), according to records in the archives of the four principal Allies. Births according to the official German statistical agency, Statistisches Bundesamt, added another 4,176,430 newcomers to Germany. The expellees arriving totaled 6,000,000. Thus the total population in 1950 before losses would have been 77,776,430, according to the Allies themselves. Deaths officially recorded in the period 1946-50 were 3,235,539, according to the UN Yearbook and the German government. Emigration was about 600,000, according to the German government. Thus the population found should have been 73,940,891. But the census of 1950 done by the German government under Allied supervision found only 68,230,796. There was a shortage of 5,710,095 people, according to the official Allied figures (rounded to 5,700,000).” (Source: Bacque, James, Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians under Allied Occupation, 1944-1950, 2nd edition, Vancouver, British Columbia: Talonbooks, 2007, pp. 115-116).

    Bacque’s calculations have been confirmed by Dr. Anthony B. Miller, who is a world-famous epidemiologist and Head of the Department of Preventive Medicine and Biostatistics at the University of Toronto. Miller read the whole work, including the documents, and checked the statistics, which he says “confirms the validity of [Bacque’s] calculations…” Miller states: “These deaths appear to have resulted, directly or indirectly, from the semi-starvation food rations that were all that were available to the majority of the German population during this time period.” (Source: Ibid., pp. xvii-xviii).

    The sum of 1.5 million German POWs, 2.1 million German expellees, and 5.7 million German residents equals an estimate of 9.3 million Germans who died needlessly after the war. This is far more Germans than died during the Second World War. Millions of these Germans slowly starved to death while the Allies withheld available food. The majority of these postwar dead Germans were women, children and very old men. Their deaths have never been honestly reported by the Allies, the German government, or most historians.

    I do not think it is a myth that many millions of Germans were murdered after World War II. As a born and raised American citizen, I think the way my country treated Germans after the war is criminal and inexcusable.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante, anarchyst
    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @Skeptikal
  168. eah says:
    @HdC

    >none, or very few

    To determine this you’d have to do a comprehensive survey — skepticism is warranted, especially concerning documents submitted by the Russians, who even at the IMT insisted the Germans were responsible for Katyn.

    Some of the most dramatic documents were affidavits, or sworn/certified affidavits, including translations and copies, which were introduced as evidence, oftentimes without the affiant being compelled to appear as a witness — of course there were no ‘original documents backing’ these.

    Perhaps the most famous was the Höss affidavit, where he claimed 2.5m Jews were murdered in Auschwitz during his time as Kommandant, i.e. thru November, 1943, which means this total does not include the alleged 0.5m Hungarian Jews murdered in mid-1944 — keep in mind a plaque currently displayed at Auschwitz claims ‘the Nazis murdered about one and a half million men, women, and children, mainly Jews from various countries of Europe’.

    Curiously, while the Höss affidavit was introduced by the prosecution, they did not put him on the stand to testify — it was the defense who called Höss as a witness.

  169. @Towey

    Quite, but then you’d also have to stop reading historiography, since a lot of it is also fiction. Fortunately, there is still the quadrivium. And user manuals for appliances.

    • Replies: @Towey
  170. JM says:
    @Priss Factor

    …Sub-Nazis in Ukraine.

    They’re strange “Nazis” when they support the Neo-Con subversion of (half) Freed Russia.

    This epithet may be good war propaganda, hanging onto the skirt of Hollywood images, but it has no social scientific validity.

    These people are essentially Lumpenproletarians-for-hire. Their regalia, symbolism, do not National Socialists make but rather just cover for their real character.

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager
  171. JackOH says:
    @John Wear

    John, do you have any thoughts on my pet theory in #157 above that elevating the standard-issue Holocaust narrative to protected state dogma will actually empower new atrocities on the theory that no one can be as bad as the 1940s Germans. Even when we’re doing the same thing.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  172. @GMC

    What about Lavrov claiming that Hitler was a Jew? Not being a commenter on the UR but a diplomat, he should have avoided this answer. Perhaps he should have replied: “Go ask the Jews in Kiev why they support, promote, fund, and arm the Nazis”. Of course the truth is that Zionism is Nazism, Jewish Nazism, but this would have been too much to expect from him to say even if he knows it.

  173. GoySoy says:
    @Realist

    Einstein is as real as holohoax. Only a jew can make an equation (E=MC2) of a particle where time is relevant.

    • Troll: Realist
    • Replies: @Heavy Metal Melody
  174. John Wear says:
    @JackOH

    You write: “John, do you have any thoughts on my pet theory in #157 above that elevating the standard-issue Holocaust narrative to protected state dogma will actually empower new atrocities on the theory that no one can be as bad as the 1940s Germans. Even when we’re doing the same thing.”

    My response: I don’t know if elevating the standard-issue Holocaust narrative to protected state dogma will actually empower new atrocities. However, I think the standard-issue Holocaust narrative is very useful in promoting Zionist/Jewish interests.

    If you have an interest, I have written an article on this subject at https://inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4881.

    • Thanks: JackOH
  175. gregor says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Lol, this is delusional.

    The world wants to ban holocaust denial? The Christians want to ban it? Lol, lol, lol.

    Obviously it’s Jews who are most interested in this. They are the ones getting it banned and they have been successful via behind-the-scenes maneuvering, not overwhelming popular sentiment.

    The text of Canada’s bill is apparently unavailable—it seems that it will be buried in a larger spending bill

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Replies: @eah
  176. Zionist liar folk no longer claim any human skin lampshades, any human fat soap, admit that the Frank sisters died of typhus (still a tragedy of course), some even admit zyklon b is never pressurized but sublimates directly from the tablets. So what’s left?

  177. @anarchyst

    All you’ve said here is what’s already been said. You just repeat the same lines over and over, that’s what you call “seeking truth.” You are incapable of moving beyond your mental limits.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  178. @GoySoy

    If e=m(c * c)

    And c is a constant (the speed of light in vacuum)

    Then doesn’t the distance unit dictate the result?

    Light travels 300,000 whatevers per second, then e=m(90000000000) and everybody says woooo, there is so much energy contained in matter.

    But light also travels one light-second per second. In those units, e=m(1). Is there something sacred about the meter?

    Does the atom contain 90 trillion times less energy depending on what units you use to describe the speed of light?

    This equation has always screamed fraud. “Einstein was just smarter than everyone else, QED.” Fraud.

    • LOL: Realist
  179. It is true that having a Holocaust-style narrative is great for consolidating power because any attempt to criticize that power can be decried as an attempt to have another Holocaust.

    However, it’s important to note that Jews were well on their way to power far before World War 2, let alone when the narrative actually began taking shape. I therefore view the narrative as a reflection of Jewish power, rather than a direct cause.

    If you talk to enough gentiles, specifically Southern evangelicals, what you’ll find is that they buy the narrative waaaaay harder than any Jewish person does. Jewish behavior is enable by Gentile duplicity.

    It’s realllllly hard to change someone’s mind about whether the Holocaust did or did not happen. However, one thing that could work is reframing publicly accepted facts. So, if most of the Jews that did perish were from Russia, perhaps this obnoxious anti-Russian sentiment could lead to that? Making a comparison between Japanese internment camps and Auschwitz could be interesting.

  180. @Colin Wright

    I read Gregor’s comment; it’s certainly not unreasonable, or abusive. I fully agree with it.

    The truth or falsehood of the “Holocaust” is not a matter of opinion, as you would like to make it. It IS a matter of facts known and of evidence provided or not provided. It is a scientific question, and scientific answers must prevail.

    This is an opinion forum, not a seminar of scientists. You’re here because here everyone can spout their opinion without evidence, which clouds the issue and allows the question to appear to remain unsettled. You have 14,000 comments here because here you can get away with talking in circles while presenting no detailed case – no scientific arguments – no evidence.

    So should we aim to bring this hoax to a close? Definitely yes.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  181. HdC says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Well m’dear, general Patton would disagree with you when he described his experiences with eastern Jews and their cleanliness, to say nothing about their behaviour with bodily functions.

    As to your quoted text from Dalton, the truth must hurt you and yours. Of course you are free to illustrate, point by point, where Dalton is wrong. Better use verifiable facts, though. Arm waving, crocodile tears, synthetic outrage, repeating lies however loud and long, no longer suffice. Good luck with this endeavour!

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  182. https://humansbefree.com/2022/05/you-cannot-make-this-stuff-up-klauss-schwab-is-a-rothschild-on-his-mothers-side.html

    If the Jews didn’t know for sure that Schwab was one of
    their “blood”, they wouldn’t let him operate freely at all.

  183. @Realist

    I asked you moron to show me the data. Shit heads like you are the fluffers for the jews. But I pray for your satanic soul.May some day you enter the real bagel world.

    • Replies: @Realist
  184. geokat62 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    And don’t let the vacuum tight sealed gas chamber door hit you in the behind.

    • LOL: John Wear
  185. anarchyst says:
    @HdC

    Jews who were “liberated” had to be forced to use toilets. The soldiers running these facilities commented on the disgusting habits of the jews. It’s all documented. It is fact that their hygiene habits were nonexistent.
    Just recently a jew couple was kicked off a airline flight originating in Detroit because they smelled so bad (stunk).
    They made the news, as they claimed that they were being discriminated against (rightly so). Near the end of the news story, it was mentioned that the airline provided them with a (free) hotel room overnight (where they could clean up their acts). The jews resumed their trip the next day without incident. They are now suing the airline for refusing them to “fly while stinky”. Chutzpah, indeed…
    Even today, there are jews who refuse to conform to normal hygiene habits. I’ve encountered many of them…

  186. anarchyst says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Typical woman…always has to get the “last word” in…check your blood pressure…

    • LOL: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  187. @Fran Taubman

    I’ve got a long answer, and I’ve got a short answer to this screed. I’ll give you the latter:

    BULLSHIT!

  188. turtle says:
    @Rogue

    What else down the pike might be considered to be convenient to add to this precedent?

    Anything some “little tin god/goddess” with a little (too much) power thinks he/she can get away with.

    Truth is its own defense. It does not need a “bodyguard of lies,” as Churchill (described by some as a “drunken poltroon”) put it.

    As far as I can tell, the term “hate speech” means whatever some oversensitive buttercup doesn’t like, and would like to have banned, because it “offends” them. Well, suck it up, buttercup. No one forces you to listen to anything. If you don’t like the broadcast, switch stations on your radio.

    Question everything:

    But first you have to learn to think for yourself.

  189. @anarchyst

    The last-ditch attempt of a loser trying to save his self-respect — resort to a put-down of womanhood and other assorted totally irrelevant and juvenile insults. But now I’m understanding – don’t know why it took me so long – you’re just not smart enough to do any better.

    The comment above this one I’m replying to is by you also. I did notice you claim the information you’re relating is “all documented” … but you don’t share any documentation! The recipient is supposed to take your word for it. Why not link to where the reader(s) can verify it? Oh, that’s too hard to do. You leave that for other people.

    • LOL: anarchyst
  190. Guilty pleasure comes closest to the
    German Schuldstolz (pride of guilt).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilty_pleasure
    https://de.zxc.wiki/wiki/Schuldkult

    The difference is that Ger-
    mans feel pissed on, not off.
    https://www.dict.cc/?s=angepisst

  191. There was an absolutely brutal war between the Jews and Germany and this was initiated by the Jews. It was to be a war of annihilation. This Germany vs World Jewry war is now called “World War 2” (with many added distractions) and what happened to the Jews in this war is called the holocaust. It’s not that difficult. The Jews got absolutely REKT trying to eliminate Germany via economic lawfare but it’s hard to really say who won. Today Germany is a nation of neutered losers while World Jewry seems back to its old tricks.

    Controlling the media etc.

    Promotion of sin. You know.

  192. @Rogue

    Which brings me back to the question of what is meant by this event (the Holocaust) being the most documented event in history?

    I must presume that the documented “evidence” is simply the enormous volume of stuff that has been written about it since the end of the Second World War.

    This is sort of a humorous if not ridiculous question. What is meant by well documented history of the Holocaust. Well let’s just think a minute on this.

    One word EYEWITNESSES. Millions upon millions of eyewitness from all over the world.

    Eyewitness accounts of the Holocaust occur in all of Europe. People from many countries and languages all telling the same story. From the first gas vans at Chelmno in 1939, to the last shipments of Jews from Hungry in 1944. Local villagers witness what was happening. The stories are all shockingly identical.

    Thousands of hours of taped videos from survivors, also of different languages and countries. Deniers will tell you that thee people lied or are exaggerating. All of the thousands of videos is just incredulous to believe that the extermination of the Jews did not take place.

    The confessions of the Germans who perpetrated the systematic murder and gassing of the Jews. The deniers will tell you that their confessions were tortured out of them. If I confessed to murder that I did not commit. I would write a letter explaining that and send it to a relative. There are no second or third generation Germans speaking up saying wait it was all a lie. The Jews framed us. My uncle served in the German army denied that atrocities took place. Crickets

    The concentration camp liberators of 3 countries witnessed and photographs the systematic gassing and murder of the Jews. British, Russian and American al tell the same story. Not one concentration camp liberator has ever come forward and said that it was made up, a lie. The documentation was forged. Crickets.

    Don’t you think this is pretty good proof that the Holocaust, a major world event, did happen as told by millions of eyewitness. The deniers had nothing to do with the war, are all Jew haters wanting to cast Jews as evil conspirators wanting to trick the world in order to gain power. They claim to have scientific proof. Their scientific proof as been disproven many times by other scientist. Like saying my house did not burn down because you could not find any matches as proof, meanwhile you are staring at your burnt down house.

    Photos were taken at the end of May or beginning of June 1944, either by Ernst Hofmann or by Bernhard Walter, two SS men whose task was to take ID photos. The photos document the transportation of Hungarian Jews the last transports to Auschwitz.

    Between 15 May and 9 July 1944, over 434,000 Jews were deported on 147 trains, most of them to Auschwitz, where about 80 percent were gassed on arrival. 20,000 survived. I bring this up you can google the photo albums, it discusses the selection of Jews to work and those selected to die. The transportation of the Hungarian Jews was one of the most well documented of all the transports, list of names were recorded. Entire families and villages were transported there and after arrival on that very day the rest or parts of their families were never seen again. Never. Children and old people vanished.

    No Holocaust denier can ever tell you what happened to the missing Jews, that vanished without a trace the day they arrived at Auschwitz. The below wiki is detailed documentation of the Hungarian Jews, by the Germans, The Hungarians and the Jews.
    Pretty good documentation.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Hungary

  193. Holocaust denial is a mental disorder that has been thoroughly discredited. Down to a dwindling few. Even WN who want to continue the umbrella of German racial ideas have given up on Holocaust denial. Below an excerpt from Mark Weber who stated that Holocaust denial was a loosing game, that he has quit.

    In January 2009, Weber threw the world of Holocaust denial into turmoil with the publication of an essay asking “How Relevant Is Holocaust Revisionism?” Weber’s conclusion, shocking to his colleagues on the radical right, was not very — that those on the radical right would do better to struggle against the real enemy, “Jewish-Zionist power,” than on a historical debate about the Holocaust that they were largely losing

    Here are some photos from the transport of Hungarian Jews to Auschwitz, the selection process of Jews going to their right for work and entrance to the camp, the other Jews marching to the crematorium never to be seen again. The old, the infirm, children. They disappeared that day. What happened to them?No Holocaust denier can account for the missing Jews. There were no further transports our of Auschwitz The Germans kept meticulous records. The people are lost forever. The few survivors can attest to that.

    The few Holocaust deniers and the commenters on the website are crackpots, with little or no audience. Ask Carolin Yager to show you her coffee table book about the Jews playing soccer and attending pool parties at Auschwitz and you tell me where the truth lies.

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  194. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “What is meant by well documented history of the Holocaust. Well let’s just think a minute on this. One word EYEWITNESSES. Millions upon millions of eyewitness from all over the world.”

    My response: I have written a number of articles on the eyewitness testimony to the so-called Holocaust. You can read them at

    https://inconvenienthistory.com/10/2/5482

    https://inconvenienthistory.com/12/4/7562

    https://inconvenienthistory.com/12/1/7237

    https://inconvenienthistory.com/10/3/6243

    I also published an article at https://inconvenienthistory.com/14/1/8187 discussing the Jewish Conspiracy to Promote the Holocaust based on your question on a previous Unz article discussion thread. I hope you enjoy reading all of these articles.

    • Thanks: anarchyst
    • LOL: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  195. A communist American accuses “America”. Of course, all awakened
    white people have long known again who is in power in America.
    https://michael-hudson.com/2022/04/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hudson_(economist)

  196. Rogue says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Fran, I do not doubt that there were German psychopaths in the Nazi regime, who hated Jews for irrational reasons.

    However, it has to be said that eye-witness testimony many years after the alleged events occurred is considered “basically worthless” according to various experts. That is to say, generally speaking, eye witness testimony many years or decades after a historical event is considered generally to be worthless in a court of law.

    Does this mean that eye witness testimony is all worthless? No! Of course not, I would never make such a claim.

    However, let’s just say that much of personal eye-witness testimony is problematic.

    Still, I do not believe that eye-witness testimony alone constitutes a smoking gun guilt for Nazi Germany regarding the WW2.

    Many concentration camp survivors did not speak of the horrors of the official narrative. Therefore I would say all views need to be taken into account – not merely the most lurid.

    However, I do have to say, my original point about the Holocaust being the “most documented event in history” still stands.

    That is, it’s not.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  197. @John Wear

    My response: I have written a number of articles on the eyewitness testimony to the so-called Holocaust.

    Like all your articles they are laughable. You think that if you find exaggerations in survivors or other witness stories you have disqualified the millions of other witness and collaborators. You can write anything you want. Why would anyone believe you over generals, soldiers and villagers that saw with their own eyes.

    Because you write an article does not make it so. Flat earths and fake moon landing folks think they can prove the earth, and the moon landing is fake based on what they say is legitimate science. There is overwhelming evidence that the Germans gassed and murdered the Jews..

    John you act like you have reinvented the wheel. All of the information that you present has been written and discussed for 50 years. Nothing new under the sun. I do not see what merit your articles have when you are cutting and pasting what others have said before. All debunked by historians and people that lived thru the war as eyewitness.

    You have no training or historical qualifications that would attest to your truthfulness or qualifications, because you site resources does not make your information factual. You are an idiot. Major historians and scientist have weighed in the subject of Holocaust denial, and it is dead as a doornail. What do I care that you can attest to witnesses exaggerating. Gosh get a life John. You could not be a pimple on these historians and scientist, witnesses, soldiers asses. You are going to refute their testimony. See a shrink.

    You suffer from a psychological disorder called: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect.

    The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias[1] whereby people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. Some researchers also include in their definition the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills. The Dunning–Kruger effect is usually measured by comparing self-assessment with objective performance. For example, the participants in a study may be asked to complete a quiz and then estimate how well they did. This subjective assessment is then compared with how well they actually did. This can happen either in relative or in absolute terms, i.e., in comparison with one’s peer group as the percentage of peers outperformed or in comparison with objective standards as the number of questions answered correctly. The Dunning–Kruger effect appears in both cases but is more pronounced in relative terms: the bottom quartile of performers tend to see themselves as being part of the top two quartiles. The initial study was published by David Dunning and Justin Kruger in 1999. It focuses on logical reasoning, grammar, and social skills. Since then, various other studies have been conducted across a wide range of tasks. These include skills from fields such as business, politics, medicine, driving, aviation, spatial memory, exams in school, and literacy.

    The Dunning–Kruger effect is usually explained in terms of meta-cognitive abilities. This approach is based on the idea that poor performers have not yet acquired the ability to distinguish between good and bad performances. They tend to overrate themselves because they do not see the qualitative difference between their performances and the performances of others. This has also been termed the “dual-burden account” since the lack of skill is paired with the ignorance of this lack. Some researchers include the meta-cognitive component as part of the definition of the Dunning–Kruger effect and not just as an explanation distinct from it.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
  198. @Fran Taubman

    I firmly believe that the world is in equilibrium in its basic state. That someone is only a perpetrator, others only a victim, is a social impossibility. A war always has a prelude and does not begin with the first gunshot. This narrative would immediately begin to crumble without the constant indoctrination. Every divorce judge knows there is no “main culprit” in the separation.

    You don’t have to become a Nazi, and draw their conclusions, which are wrong in my eyes, to realize that the world has a Jewish problem. All other peoples remain unnoticed. Why don’t we talk about Bhutan or Surinam, which have about the same number of inhabitants as Israel? They exist as a permanent disruptive factor in our midst.

    • Replies: @mointaineer
  199. GeneralRipper [AKA "GKWillie"] says:

    The state of Israel does not have the number of people to support an economy large enough to go to the moon. And perhaps they have other priorities.

    Psssst…Idiot, they were using a SpaceX rocket as well as NASA facilities and they could even manage to land a fucking probe on the Lunar surface…lol

    These are your Jew brainiac ubermesnch.

    Jews are really good at swindling and making silly Marvel Comic book movies and porno, but they’re vastly overrated at pretty much anything else.

    Of course, when it comes to marketing themselves as eternal victims, they are second to none.

    A pathetic old pussy like you can’t seem to figure that out.

  200. @Fran Taubman

    Holocaust denial is a mental disorder that has been thoroughly discredited.

    Holocaust denial is an opinion. How can an opinion be a mental disorder? This is ridiculous, labelling something you don’t like or disagree with to be an illness. Isn’t it sufficient for you that it is a crime in many countries?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Fran Taubman
  201. @mointaineer

    Didn’t think they’d publish my comments, but now the admin finds his cognitive dissonance disproves science. https://off-guardian.org/2022/05/02/top-10-foods-for-your-armageddon-survival-pantry/#comment-503937

  202. HdC says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The Israeli Supreme Court disallowed Jewish “Eye Witness” testimony when it overturned a lower court’s decision on a guilty verdict of an accused concentration camp worker. This court’s narrative on its ruling is an interesting insight into Jewish testimony.

    Why should anybody else feel compelled to accept Jewish eye witness testimony?

    By itself, eye witness testimony is worthless for any judicial decisions, especially if the witness profits from a favourable ruling.

    At best, eye witness testimony may be used to indicate areas of investigation. When eye witnesses were asked to point out the location of burial sites for bodies and ash from the concentration camps in Poland, no human residue was found.

  203. @Fran Taubman

    This is a good illustration of why the disingenuous and duplicitous jew is widely detested.

  204. @Rogue

    However, I do have to say, my original point about the Holocaust being the “most documented event in history” still stands.

    That is, it’s not.

    If you feel there is no documented proof then your brain function does not have two sticks to rub together.

    • Replies: @Rogue
  205. anarchyst says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Your attempts to keep the holocaust™ fable relevant are crumbling before your very eyes.
    I was not aware that you were a doctor or had medical credentials…
    Accusing Mr. Wear of being of lesser intelligence by psychoanalyzing him from afar with your Dunning-Kreuger effect is so atypically jewish.
    I’ll bet that you are sitting in a cubicle in an IDF unit 82oo facility with nothing to do but discredit REAL holocaust™ researchers who are blowing the whole holocaust™ fable to smithereens.
    Enjoy your position while it lasts. More and more people are becoming aware of the “hoax of the 20th century”.
    Holocaustianity has met its match with true intellectuals and truth-seekers such as Mr. Wear…and even myself.

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante
  206. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “Like all your articles they are laughable.”

    My response: So did you read all of my articles? If you did, I must say you are an exceptionally fast reader.

  207. anarchyst says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The photos prove nothing. In fact, they look quite healthy, ready for work to support the German war effort. “Arbeit Macht Frei”

    • Agree: John Wear
  208. anarchyst says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Fran Taubman is an IDF unit 8200 disinformation specialist. She gets paid to counter truth…and to perpetuate “the big lie”…

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Wielgus
  209. @Commentator Mike

    Holocaust denial is an opinion. How can an opinion be a mental disorder

    It is a form of derangement because the facts surrounding the Holocaust are irrefutable. The goal of Holocaust deniers is not so much about the mass murder of the Jews, but rather to stalk Jews and the world into seeing a vast conspiracy run by the Jews to ruin and control the world, which faking the Holocaust being just a part of the conspiracy. They want Jews held accountable, so they try and convince the world that the Holocaust is made up by the Jews for the benefit of the Jews.

    Deniers believe Jews are so powerful that they could control the laws of nature and science to manipulate outcomes prior, during and after the Holocaust and WW2 is. Who else could fake the Holocaust and mass murder of their own people but a supernatural satanic cult. Their goal is another Holocaust with a better ending for them, their goal is to rid the world of Jews, much like Hitler. Why? Because they deserve it. This is why Holocaust denial is a criminal offense. People who believe in these Jewish conspiracy have cognitive problems. It is a sort of mental illness

    Just look at the commenter John Wear and his website or the author of this article Thomas Dalton who claims to be a professor at a major unnamed university, which is probably a lie. Wear keeps thinking that he has invented sliced bread when he is hashing over old facts that people have disproven. Holocaust denial is officially dead. There have been no new studies or major findings. It died with the Irving trial. The big men in the field are finished. You have second stringers like Wear pawning old ideas. There are no new discoveries.

  210. @Colin Wright

    I rest my case.

    What is your case? Please tell me where I can find it in no more than two or three places so I can know what you mean by that. Or maybe you can state it in a few sentences that are to the point.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  211. Set aside the literally inflammatory word Holocaust (burnt offering to God) for one moment and please answer a simple question. Was there a war of annihilation being waged by Germany against the Jews who by that point had been clearly labeled an enemy of the German state?? Yes right? No? Really?

    That’s what Jews mean by Holocaust. Their wartime losses in a 2-way war of annihilation.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @HdC
  212. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “There have been no new studies or major findings. It died with the Irving trial.”

    My response: Carlo Mattogno and Germar Rudolf have each written numerous excellent books on the so-called Holocaust since the David Irving trial. Have you read any of them?

    • Replies: @lydia
  213. Realist says:
    @Dingo bay rum

    I asked you moron to show me the data. Shit heads like you are the fluffers for the jews.

    Yes, ad hominems always win an argument…you stupid fuck. LOL

    • Replies: @Dingo bay rum
  214. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s just “reality” that the 6 Million Gassed Jews HOLOCAUST is a/THE fundamentalist religion of Canada and so many Western societies.

    Those who question any small portion of the 6 Million Gassed Jews HOLOCAUST myth are called “Holocaust Deniers” – “Unbelievers” and treated the same as religious heretics in Islamic societies or Medevil Europe.

    6 Million Gassed Jews HOLOCAUST myth is true, because IT IS TRUE

    Same as all the similar J ethno centric religious myths of the J Old Testament.

    Did Jehovah the tribal God of the J Israelites – really part the Red Sea and let the Js God’s Chosen people escape the Evil Egyptians (definitely not God’s Chosen people – Goyim, cattle like us).

    How come the escaping J Israelites didn’t have any problem with mud?

    How is that even remotely positive from an honest, scientific perspective?

    It’s not – but neither is the “6 Million Gassed Jews HOLOCAUST ”

    It is what it is.

    We’d have been so much better with our own myths Homer, Vergil – our own Gods and Goddesses.

    • Replies: @lydia
  215. Skeptikal says:
    @Rogue

    Rogue,
    I suggest that you go and look in Polish and Russian archives yourself!

    If you don’t speak the requisite languages, you can learn them.

    he rabid deniers tend to be those who speak only English and deride any sources not in English.

    They have an aversion to checking out German and Polish primary sources. They all rely on secondary and tertiary sources and of course first person witnesses don’t count. My point about “documentation” of atrocities is ignored.

    Then they expect others to make their case for them.

    It is really quite funny.

    • Replies: @Rogue
    , @gregor
    , @gregor
  216. Skeptikal says:
    @gsjackson

    “I’m cynical enough to suspect that the real reason it’s being done is to clear the constitutional path for mandatory jabs by eliminating the ‘our bodies our choice’ idea.

    This makes sense.

  217. @Carolyn Yeager

    ‘What is your case? Please tell me where I can find it in no more than two or three places so I can know what you mean by that. ‘

    You can find it in the last three posts in this exchange.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  218. Skeptikal says:
    @John Wear

    A similar calculation needs to be done for the numbers who died after WW1 from starvation, illness, etc. as a result of the blockade, the galloping inflation, and unemployment.

    • Agree: Towey
    • Replies: @John Wear
  219. @Realist

    Answer dirt bag where is the data. Stupid commie scum like you never answer the question. May you have many bagel holidays in the future.

    • Troll: Realist
  220. Towey says:
    @H. Ph. Vogel

    Not quite reduced to that. I keep my reading to stuff published before 1945, the earlier the better.

  221. I’m so grateful to have discovered Unz.com! Even though I don’t neccessarily take everything I find in the articles for granted, at least I get to read well corroborated and thought-provoking arguments on the thought-to-be-known matters.

    The great example is in this very article: when it comes to the Holocaust narrative, I’ve always took the “gas chamber” trope for granted, but the author easily brought home huge inconsistencies of the trope with the reality of using toxic gas to kill large numbers of people. It’s enough for me to want to go ahead and educate myself on the matter further, as the matter deserves it.

    One thing that always bugged me with the official story of the Holocaust was the way the word on atrocities had gotten through to the Western public. Apparently, a prisoner from one of the camps, at one point during the war, smuggled a film out of that camp and brought it to the Western press, or something like that. How about that for convenience? Where did he get the camera and the film to shoot? How was he never caught and shot dead. They never explain these little details.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  222. John Wear says:
    @Skeptikal

    You write: “A similar calculation needs to be done for the numbers who died after WW1 from starvation, illness, etc. as a result of the blockade, the galloping inflation, and unemployment.”

    My response: Germany eventually signed the Treaty of Versailles on June 28, 1919, because she faced death by starvation and invasion if she refused. With the naval blockade still in force and her merchant ships and even Baltic fishing boats sequestered, Germany could not feed her people. Germany’s request to buy 2.5 million tons of food was denied by the Allies. U.S. warships now supported the blockade. With German families starving, Bolshevik uprisings in several German cities, Trotsky’s Red Army driving into Europe, Czechs and Poles ready to strike from the east, and Allied forces prepared to march on Berlin, Germany was forced to capitulate.

    It is estimated that approximately 800,000 Germans perished because of the Allied naval blockade. (Source: Tansill, Charles C., “The United States and the Road to War in Europe,” in Barnes, Harry Elmer (ed.), Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace, Newport Beach, CA: Institute for Historical Review, 1993, p. 96).

    The blockade’s architect and chief advocate had been the First Lord of the Admiralty, Winston Churchill. His confessed aim had been to starve the whole German population into submission. One commentator noted the effects of the blockade: “Nations can take philosophically the hardships of war. But when they lay down their arms and surrender on assurances that they may have food for their women and children, and then find that this worst instrument of attack on them is maintained—then hate never dies.”

    George E. R. Gedye was sent to Germany in February 1919 on an inspection tour. Gedye described the impact of the blockade upon the German people:

    “…Hospital conditions were appalling. A steady average of 10 percent of the patients had died during the war years from lack of fats, milk and good flour. Camphor, glycerine and cod-liver oil were unprocurable. This resulted in high infant mortality…We saw some terrible sights in the children’s hospital, such as the ‘starvation babies’ with ugly, swollen heads…Such were the conditions in Unoccupied Territory. Our report naturally urged the immediate opening of the frontiers for fats, milk and flour…but the terrible blockade was maintained as a result of French insistence…until the Treaty of Versailles was signed in June, 1919.” (Source: Gedye, George E. R., The Revolver Republic; France’s Bid for the Rhine, London: J. W. Arrowsmith, Ltd., 1930, pp. 29-31).

    • Thanks: Orville H. Larson
    • Replies: @Towey
  223. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Irrefutable? As usual the truth is the diametric opposite of your claims. https://judaism.is/holocaust.html The Holocaust hasbara has crumbled. The mental disorder is in those who tout the Jewish fables.

  224. anarchyst says:
    @Boba Lazarević

    Thank you for seeking truth about this holocaust event.
    This “event” can be proven to be a pack of lies and fabrications, utilizing vivid imaginations just by analyzing the engineering needed to perpetrate such an “event”.
    The engineering just does not add up.
    Best regards,

  225. @Colin Wright

    Okay. IOW, continue with everyone having their opinion based on whatever they want to base it on; it is totally unimportant to you.

    Well, that does fit the nature of your comments here. In fact, now I recall I recognized that was what you were about at least a year ago (or more?) when I had an exchange with you. You really don’t give a damn; you just enjoy engaging in some sort of argument or debate — 14,000 comments worth — blah, blah, blah. Well, you’re British and no doubt retired & old, like most everyone here, so what else are you going to do?

    My idea is to actually have a showdown, not controlled by Jews and their media, with a large panel of impartial judges who are science saavy, with forensic and documentary evidence, facts, and witnesses presented and cross-examined, with no legal restrictions … so that a fair and just verdict can be rendered.

    It occurs to me that this is what the Holocaust Handbooks are — or as close to it as we’ve come — a presentation of the facts in a pretty impartial way. And separated into individual topics, or manageable parts, which is necessary for preventing the escape from some uncomfortable finding by switching attention to a different part of the narrative. Like escaping the Auschwitz facts by switching to the “Aktion Reinhardt” camps. Or to the Einsatzgruppen. That sort of thing. Take one subject at a time.

    But the Jews and their cohorts will never accept the verdict of such an impartial panel. They have to have everything their way. That suggests the only thing to do is to get rid of the Jews (as the Germans of the Third Reich concluded), by which I mean excluding them from the “showdown” process. Taking power from Da Jews is then the necessary first step, not last step, and they call that antisemitism. See how they’ve thought of everything!

    It always comes back to “Hitler was right” in the end. We can’t improve on what he did. By allowing him to be defeated, we were back to square one. Still, we have to do the best we can.

  226. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Among our favorite “irrefutable” holocaust claims are:
    • the different colors of crematoria smoke for different ethnicities
    • the ½ million children lured into gas chambers using chocolates
    • the Yid schnorrer who escaped by pretending to be Jesus
    • skeet shooting infants
    • geysers of blood erupting from the ground
    http://judaism.is/holocaust.html#imbecilictestimony

  227. Rogue says:
    @Fran Taubman

    If you feel there is no documented proof then your brain function does not have two sticks to rub together.

    Well, “no documented proof” and “most documented event ever” are two very different things.

    Nowhere did I contend that zero documented proof exists. Though it is noticeable that your “documented proof” is exclusively eyewitness testimony.

    I have asked the reasonable question about how is the Holocaust, apparently, the most documented event in history according to it’s primary supporters.

    My understanding is that based on the German archives, and the archives of the other primary WW2 participants, this is simply a false claim.

    With regards to the Holocaust itself, I’m still prepared to be convinced either way. But turning an historical event of three quarters of a century ago into a thought crime should you question any of it’s details, isn’t making a good case for me to accept the official version.

    • Agree: mark green
  228. @Fran Taubman

    Tic toc, kike bitch. The lies will soon crumble. The sins of your kind cry out to heaven.

    So many people beaten, ruined and murdered for exposing the Holohoax. Be very afraid of retribution, divine and worldly, kike bitch.

    Tic toc.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  229. Rogue says:
    @Skeptikal

    You write in a way that suggests you know of stuff in the Polish and Russian archives that lends solid proof to the official Holocaust narrative.

    OK, so can you tell me some of what you’ve found out if this is so?

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Skeptikal
  230. gregor says:
    @Skeptikal

    You are such a bullshitter. If they had anything good there’s no reason it couldn’t be translated and published.

    Also: Graf speaks several languages. Mattogno uses sources in various languages (see for example his book on Nyizsli which he based on the original Hungarian texts). Rudolf is a native German and speaks near perfect English. The entire Holocaust Handbooks series is translated into English and German. Weber and Irving definitely know German. Faurisson knew German. But you say revisionists don’t know German. GTFO. What you mean of course is that most casual people online don’t know German, Polish, etc. Well, yeah, it’s called having a day job.

    It’s hilarious that you are telling people that they have to learn German and Polish and do original research in the archives in Europe in order to find out if you’re lying. Loooool. The war ended over 75 years ago and by now the number of published sources and translated documents is immense. There is more than enough out there in English to draw an informed conclusion on the topic. If you don’t have the evidence by now, IT’S NOT THERE. If you had a good case, you would be making it, not telling people that there are secret unpublished documents that prove the holocaust.

    • Agree: Rogue, Towey
  231. lydia says:
    @anonymous

    The great god pan is dead – go lament

    The Lord Jesus is alive forever and is coming soon to terminate the evil and diadem the right

    Read the Bible for the signs of the times.

    if you had read the Bible you would know that it states clearly the God sent a great wind to dry the path of this baptism so that His people – the Israelites not just jews walked through the wave with unmoisened foot.

    If God created you me and everyone and everything why do you doubt nothing with God is impossible.

    https://artandtheology.org/2016/04/27/i-thank-you-god-for-most-this-amazing-by-e-e-cummings/

  232. gregor says:
    @Skeptikal

    The Foreign Service Institute data suggests that it takes about 44 weeks to reach basic proficiency in Polish. That’s studying full-time with the support of the US State Department. German takes around 30 weeks. So that would be 74 weeks for those two languages. Someone studying part-time on their own will take far longer. Realistically even after considerable effort you will still need a dictionary to plod through most texts. History PhD programs typically require you to do a language exam in one or two languages. They have you translate a couple of short passages (usually less than a page) with a dictionary. That level is generally below what would really be needed for research purposes.

  233. lydia says:
    @John Wear

    the author who wrote all quiet on the western front also wrote the way back home about how their country had been taken over by the bankers who were mostly not all of a certain….

    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jappersandjanglers/2016/04/tenebrarum-laetitia/

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    (“Christ Crowned with Thorns,” by Matthias Stom, c. 1633-1639. Source: Wikimedia, Creative Commons License).

    (“Christ Crowned with Thorns,” by Matthias Stom, c. 1633-1639. Source: Wikimedia, Creative Commons License).

    Just yesterday a post appeared on another Patheos blog called “A plea for a measure of incoherence” (call me old fashioned, but I go in for capitalizing my titles. I do like e.e. cummings though). The piece is a wonderful exploration of not only the inevitability of ambiguity but also of its desirability (a topic on which I have commented before). Here’s an especially nice tidbit:

    [It’s] true that there were those in these controversies that fought boldly, even defying authority. We tend to remember the few great ones (Sts. Cyril and Athanasius, for example) who were vindicated and not the many who went astray.

    I want to suggest that it is extremely unlikely that anyone reading this is a Cyril or Athanasius, and pretending you are could get you into trouble…As Catholics we need to foster within ourselves a kind of negative capability– the ability to stay in uncertainty and seeming contradiction without trying to arrive at a definitive but premature resolution. In the meantime, we know the demands and discipline of the Christian life and we know of our need to stay in union with our bishop, and our bishop to the Holy Father. Communion first. Clarity later.

    • Replies: @anno nimus
  234. Is there a reason that there is no ban on “advertising” to counter the ban on dissent?

    Obviously, at least to me, it has no relevance today.

    Has the discussion saved Jewry? Nope.

    Has it prevented other tragedies in the last 75 years? Nope.

    Has it brought or meted out justice for anyone? Nope.

    Has it informed the development of future generations? I would argue…yes….it puts on an unfair burden and dissonance on children that has no place in their world.

    Imho – It was, is and will be a footnote in history.

    You cannot make the world care and it will care about it less and less as time progresses. Which is the way of things that do not impart wisdom.

    Is the Holocaust a way of thinking or was it an event?

    The remaining Jews and Nazis want it to be the former but I would argue that it was the latter.

    Two cents in an inflationary world from someone who doesn’t care one or the other beyond what is in it for me.

  235. @HeebHunter

    Be realistic man. All the evidence is that Zionist influence and power is growing in the White world. Just look at Biden’s cabinet, the politics of the West, the government of the Ukraine now fighting for a New Khazaria with full backing of the West, and the diplomatic gains of Israel among some Arab countries and all former Eastern European Warsaw Pact countries. Sure more people are aware of Jewish and Zionist power, or can become aware if they wish to, but it has had little effect.

    Even if a new Nazism becomes widespread in the West it would be some kind of ZioNazism like in the Ukraine and the Jews will direct it against others, like Muslims, Blacks or Gypsies, which they could do very easily through the MSM they control to redirect the public. Just look how quickly they have spread Russophobia, to the extent that Sweden has banned the balalaika instrument, even though Russians do not mass rape Western women or mass murder Westerners on their streets. Whoever the Jewish controlled MSM turns against the rest will blindly follow like those Western mercenaries to their deaths in the Ukraine against Russians who never did them any harm.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Thanks: Etruscan Film Star
  236. @anarchyst

    You mean she is moonlighting as an artist and designer. Many are moonlighting as US cabinet members, politicians, bankers, journalists, academics, pimps. I guess it’s all just a sideline for them as the main thing is of course Israel.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  237. Wielgus says:
    @anarchyst

    She is not actually very good at it. I suspect she is a Jewish enthusiast who does not get paid.

  238. eah says:
    @gregor

    What is presumably the text is available.

    Holocaust denial — and downplaying the Nazis’ murder of Jews — to be outlawed in Canada

    The government move to change the law follows the introduction by Saskatoon Tory MP Kevin Waugh of a private member’s bill prohibiting Holocaust denial earlier this year.

    Waugh said the government proposal was “word for word” the same as in his bill and he was surprised to see it in the budget.

    The text is here:

    HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA — BILL C-250 — An Act to amend the Criminal Code (prohibition — promotion of antisemitism)

    The sponsor, Kevin Waugh, is a boomer, not Jewish, and a nominal conservative (kevinwaugh.ca, Wikipedia).

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  239. bwuce wee says:

    could there be a bigger can of worms? not likely!!! first off, the holocaust is a legend. it is based on some fact, but mostly fiction- sort of like a story that is told and gets exaggerated each time it is retold. and that is the ‘holocaust’ in a nutshell. when you encounter a situation such as this the question is- when do the exaggerations stop? in this case, they reached a critical mass and then that mass was codified, in much the same manner as curry! curry is a mixture of spices that kept getting more and more spices added to it. there is no herb called curry, it is a mixture of many many herbs. the holocaust is a mixture of many fables. what gets me is there was a holocaust in cambodia, which everyone has heard about. there was a holocaust in armenia, which everyone has heard about, there was a holcaust in ukraine, which everyone has heard about. there was a huge major on-going holocaust in ireland for centuries, which resulted in the death of millions of the irish people, and the immigration of millions as refugees, many more than the nazi holocaust, but no one seems to have heard about that. and there are many many more holocausts which no one seems to have heard about- so this begs the question- WHY IS IT THAT ALL THESE MANY HOLOCAUSTS ARE IRRELEVANT, WHILE ONLY THE NAZI HOLOCAUST MATTERS?
    because it seems to me that either THEY ALL MATTER, OR NONE OF THEM SHOULD MATTER. i can imagine no scenario where only one holocaust matters. no logical reason on earth why only one holocaust- especially an exaggerated fiction-filled holocaust- should be the only one that matters. unless we factor in jewish supremacy. when you add that factor to the equation, you understand why only this holocaust matters. the fact that the nazi holocaust is the only one that matters, PROVES THE EXISTENCE OF JEWISH SUPREMACY. and it also proves that the jewish religion does not care at all for the rest of humanity- and that begs the question- do they actually see themselves as part of humanity as a whole? APPARENTLY, THEY DO NOT. actions speak louder than words. i think i have solved the holocaust question- anything else i can help you with?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @anarchyst
  240. bwuce wee says:

    eisenhauer had all the german PoWs in a camp after the war. they were ALL intentionally starved to death. 10s of thousands. but that was OK! in fact, i think all jewish people apporved of it. so if you approve of one extermination- you don’t get to complain about another extermination- do you? because that would make you a hypoctire- would it not?

  241. @Commentator Mike

    LOL. All these low IQ Unz-ites form a line to reply to Fran Taubman bc she’s so easy to refute, dispute and make fun of. That’s their level of argument and they indulge fully when given the opportunity. It’s easy to be smarter than Franny. They sure give themselves away by it, though.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  242. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @bwuce wee

    To the supremacists (who manipulate the majority of nonsup Jews, imo) the rest of humanity are not human but the equivalent of farm animals. Farm animals they are trying to control through the spike protein bioweapon and mystery ingredients in the vaxx.

  243. @eah

    From 5-1-22: https://carolynyeager.net/serious-attempts-canada-fight-whats-called-rising-antisemitism-first-law-against-holocaust-denial

    And from Waugh’s bill:

    (4) Subsection 319(7) of the Act is amended by adding the following in alphabetical order:

    Holocaust means the planned and deliberate state-sponsored persecution and annihilation of European Jewry by the Nazis and their collaborators from 1933 to 1945; (Holocauste)

    I can’t believe they use the word “Nazi” in a legal document/parliamentary legislation … but there it is. These people are really propagandized/indoctrinated into brain death.

  244. anarchyst says:
    @bwuce wee

    As much as I cannot stand the likes of “Whoopie Goldberg”, she sure ruffled jewish feathers by stating that the jewish “holocaust®” was not the only instance of human suffering and that jews were not “unique” when it comes to human suffering..
    The sh!t most certainly hit the fan when she pronounced THAT.
    In fact, the jew-run Ukrainian Holodomor, the jew-run communist takeover of Russia, the Cambodian Khmer Rouge slaughter, deliberate starvation of German troops in (Eisenhower’s Weisenlager death camps) after WW2 and many others resulted in much greater suffering and deaths than that of the jewish phony “holocaust®”

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
  245. So who denies that Germany designated Jews to be their declared enemies and waged a declared war of annihilation against them?

    Bueller??

    • Replies: @HdC
    , @Colin Wright
  246. @Carolyn Yeager

    Yeah and you’re so smart.

    Why don’t you direct us to records of every single Jew by name, age, date and location they were sent to from Treblinka? Germans pride themselves on their efficiency and bookkeeping so show us the records. Anecdotal evidence of some few survivors being seen somewhere else doesn’t count.

    And show us the records of all those tattoo numbers and the fate of each one. Where are they?

  247. @Commentator Mike

    That is the biggest bugaboo of deniers. The entire ball of wax falls apart. Where did all the Jews go? Where are the missing Jews?

    Entire families and villages entered those camps as units. They formed lined for for selection(see photo album. If you going to enter the camp and work. If SS officer looked at you and sent you to the right. You were going to the crematorium. The old, the infirm, small children. Look at the SSAlbum documents this. They went to the crematorium and there were never seen again. Outside of the crematorium are ashes and smoke. What do you think happened to them?

    Where did those old women and young children go. Their sisters and brothers who were chosen for work never saw them again. And no denier had been able to track them down and locate them.

    Hey deniers where did the missing Jews vanish to?Where are they?

    • Replies: @HdC
    , @Al Liguori
  248. HdC says:
    @Jeffrey A Freeman

    It was exactly the opposite of what you assert.
    “Judea Declares War on Germany”, as newspaper headlines proclaimed in 1933. Google it.
    Bear in mind that modern, Jew approved narrative will downplay the significance of this headline. War means war, not boycott. If the latter was the intent, why not say so?

    • Agree: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Jeffrey A Freeman
  249. HdC says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Into the 60 countries where interviewers for Schindler’s list had to go to talk to them.

    • Agree: John Wear
  250. @Commentator Mike

    There are Jew survivors living today (or they were 20 or so years ago) who gave filmed interviews to the Spierlberg-USC Holo Foundation, saying they were moved to other camps AFTER being sent to Treblinka, etc. Just because documents can’t be found doesn’t mean that was the end of the line. The Koherr Report was only ONE document. If 20 or thirty interviewed said that, there would be many, many more who were sent back in that direction; so they didn’t all go into the SU. But more than “a few” were seen and there were newspaper stories about trainloads of them, and also trainloads of their furniture and belongings. You have to read the book, sorry.

    There were also several newspaper accounts (those that have been found) announcing Stalin’s decrees on banning all foreign Jews to Siberian and far north and far east gulags. Also that many thousands had been sent already. International Jewry reacted in shock and anger! But they also didn’t want to attract too much attention to it, lest it take anything away from German guilt. It’s all a mess, so it’s completely irresponsible to demand that “German efficiency” provide all the answers for you.

    Anecdotal evidence of some few survivors being seen somewhere else doesn’t count.

    What does count? Jewish fantasies of mass murder for which no trace of human remains can be found? Where do you think these Jews ended up? Why should smart Germans be responsible for to telling you everything? You yourself don’t have a single answer to anything, so you accept the hoax by default. That spells ignorance on your part.

    “Commentator Mike” is really a play on Communist Mike. That’s your real identity which makes you myopic, if not outright blind.

  251. @HdC

    No.

    I agree the conflict was initiated by the Jews.

  252. @HdC

    But Fran is also confusing Auschwitz with the Reinhardt camps. The question at hand is where the Jews went after those latter camps; her answers refer to the Gypsy Family groups at Birkenau, and to the pictures in the “SS Album” and the crematories at Birkenau. She is ALWAYS confusing one thing for another because she has no appreciation for truth and/or accuracy. That’s the mark of Jews and dummies.

    She IS a waste of time.

    • Agree: Al Liguori
  253. @HdC

    How many jews did that add up to? A few thousand. They also talked about their family and extended family that didn’t make it.

    If they were not gassing and murdering Jews what was Schindler saving them from? Roasting marshmallows in the crematorium?
    Think man

    • Troll: Al Liguori
  254. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    As usual from Fran… hasbara manure. Jews declared war on Germany and some of those declared internal enemies died of typhus and starvation. Why should anyone care that some of them died in a war that they started? https://judaism.is/holocaust.html

    • Agree: Towey
  255. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    The Jewish population is much higher than we are told.
    http://judaism.is/holocaust.html#census
    https://joshf731.substack.com/p/the-jewish-population-is-much-higher https://joshf731.substack.com/p/the-jewish-population-is-much-higher-061

    Among other talmudic exhortations to deceive, the Jews are commanded to hide their numbers. From the Babylonian Talmud: Yoma 22b (Soncino edition):

    “It is forbidden to count Israel even for [the purpose of fulfilling] a commandment […] Whosoever counts Israel, transgresses a [biblical] prohibition, as it is said: Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured.”This logically extends to the crypto-Jewish communities around the world; These communities are much more guarded in regard to their population because they are the most deadly for Jewish imperialism into other countries.

    Catholic Journalist Istvan Bakony:

    “The official encyclopedias of Judaism, & all the Jewish books published and put in public libraries, since they can be read by gentiles, systematically hide the secrets of Jewish Imperialism, that is to say, all those things that if they known to gentiles would allow them to discover their hidden enemy with all its peril. And it is natural that Israelites take these precautions. When referring to the number of Jews in each country, they always reduce the total figure, often enormously, so that gentile readers will believe that Jews living in their country are a small peaceful, and unoffensive minority that presents no danger.”
    Page 20
    The Jewish Fifth Column in India http://judaism.is/assets/bakony-jewish-fifth-column-in-india.pdf

  256. @Fran Taubman

    In that film, the showers…sprayed…water.

    Weird.

  257. These chambers allegedly relied on captured Russian diesel engines to produce fatal carbon monoxide gas. However…blabla.

    Plus: why would the Germans (the world leaders in chemical research and industry) use precious diesel to produce carbon monoxide when you could make it much cheaper with wood chips? They had hundreds of thousands of cars and trucks running on carbon monoxide already, they knew how to make CO.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  258. anarchyst says:
    @Felix Krull

    There is almost NO carbon monoxide in diesel emissions. Utilizing diesel engines for execution purposes is laughable from an engineering standpoint.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  259. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @anarchyst

    Bottom line: Their misanthropic religion exhorts them to be habitual liars. http://judaism.is/torah-encourages-lies.html
    They have been lying about victimhood for millennia!

  260. Check out Caroline Yeager’s house and garden tour of Auschwitz., and read the reviews when you look it up. Tea time and swimming in Auschwitz. It is so weird it is scary that anyone could attempt to full people with this. Tell me this woman is not flat out insane, someone who can not deal with reality. You all have seen photos of the camps. Poor thing Caroline has ruined her life trying to convince people that the Death camps not death camps. I mean this is just pixy dust fantasy.

    CY1

    Yes, Auschwitz had an art museum, a library, regular concerts and sporting events, a “theater for music and drama,” a swimming pool (sometimes used for water polo) and a brothel for lonely inmates — all round, as Yeager writes, “a flourishing cultural life.” It also had two fine post offices because “the Geneva Convention rules, strictly followed by the Germans, ensured the sending and receiving of mail by all prisoners.” Why, the kindly SS guards even provided special pre-printed cards and letter forms! And their health care system was world class — after all, for the Nazis, “the health of the labor force was a prime concern.”
    This, at least, is the view of Carolyn Yeager, a woman of leaden stupidity who took a walking tour of Auschwitz last year and decided that the accounts of thousands of victims, perpetrators, camp liberators and Nazi officials including Auschwitz’s most infamous commandant were all hogwash — a transparent ploy by post-war propagandists to say ugly things about caring Germans.

    Over at Birkenau, there was a “beautiful, modern hygiene building” where arriving prisoners had their hair shorn, but that also occasionally doubled “as a ballroom.” SS guards there regularly socialized with prisoners, with a number of love affairs resulting in postwar marriages. Guards and inmates “enjoyed friendly competition on Saturday afternoons and Sundays, with enthusiastic cheering sections.”

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  261. GeneralRipper [AKA "GKWillie"] says:
    @anarchyst

    Exactly.

    Why should I give a fat rat’s ass if 6,000,000 Jews did actually die according to all the ridiculous lurid tales, when some 52,000,000 White Christian gentile men, women and children perished in all manner of agony during the same conflict?

    Not only that, but the Jews have shown the true character of their perfidious souls over and over again by slandering and belittling the very people who endeavored to save them from this supposed “genocide”.

    • Agree: anarchyst, Towey
  262. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Same old, same old from you, Fran. “Irrefutable” claims that are transparent lies. When confronted with the evidence against you, name-calling:

    [MORE]

    Comment #337 “I am a well known artist, a Zionist and a Chabad supporter, my views are widely shared amongst right wing Zionist Jews, and although different have always been respectful when posting.” https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-war-criminals-in-their-own-words/

    #197 Go Jerk off on some S & M porno.
    https://www.unz.com/article/out-thought-out-bought-out-fought-why-the-9-11-truth-movement-failed/#comment-4973381

    #744 Fuck you!
    https://www.unz.com/article/the-jew-thing/#comment-4365542

    #150 I view Jesus as a fake idol not a Demi god or the son of god. Jesus is a charlatan a sorcerer who practiced black magic and performed miracles that only a true god could perform.
    We Jews call Jesus a momzer. An illegitimate son of an unmarried woman. I do not believe in the virgin birth or do I find paintings of Mary comforting. as a false idol Demi god. Mary conceived Jesus unmarried with a non Jewish Roman soldier.

    #161 I know. I am epitome of evil isn’t delicious. Eat shit and ie [sic]..
    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/we-are-all-jews-in-the-eyes-of-todays-nazis/#comment-4027600

    #81 F***k off with your BS
    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/perceptions-of-religions-by-race/#comment-4073575

    #6 give a flying fuck
    #7 Stick to the fucking script.
    #24 Are you fucking sadistic or just stupid.
    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/expose-lord-falconer-is-caught-reading-an-hasbara-script-on-bbc-live/

    #25 get the fuck out
    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/margaret-hodge-iran-and-jazz/

    #389 get the fuck out
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/how-to-start-an-unnecessary-war/

    #115 Get a fucking life.
    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/on-biblical-celebrities-and-jewish-symbolism/

    #18 horseshit
    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/expose-lord-falconer-is-caught-reading-an-hasbara-script-on-bbc-live/

    # 1293 Dear Ron… BS.
    # 1299 Another libel is the Black plaque [sic]… You can get sued for libel. I will do all I can to shut your hate speech website down, that is all it is. There is a big push to shut down hate speech on the internet.
    # 1308 tin horn
    # 1320 scum bag… fraud… YOUR BULLSHIT.
    #1463 complete and utter bullshit
    #1464 racist
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-secrets-of-military-intelligence/

    #72 “Why don’t you show up at the border fence sometime soon maybe we can end your misery?”
    #210 “…my behavior has been more civil then most here.”
    #216 “The shooter has responsibility but so does the Jihadist resister. It is 50 /50”
    As if children, including children sniped in the womb, are “resisters” who have “50% responsibility.
    #226 “My point being don’t blame the Israelis for killing before being killed.”
    #242 “send children into harms way, so that [snipers will kill them]”
    #273 “send children into harms way. so that [snipers will kill them]”
    #275 “Are you the wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz?”
    #277 “That was an errant Hamas rocket that killed the pregnant mother and child. I think the guy that posted them gets his winnie high”. As if the two pictured children with bullet holes were blown up by rockets?
    #363 “No one truth is correct…”
    #583 “only a total war with winner take all will solve the problem.”
    #598 “There are probably some wanted Jihadis on this site…I am not understanding the time zone stuff.”
    #637 “You are taking Judaism out of context, from the bronze age. “
    #709 “All religions are the same, working towards the same goals.”
    #714 “Nothin absolutely nothing bad in Judaism or Jews.”
    \$738 “anti-semites, …And these fuckers think they actually make sense.”
    #826 “Ignorant Al,… …who knows absolutely about nothing”
    #749 “We can agree to disagree with out disparaging one another.” Hyppocrisy?
    #769 “Jew hater…irrational Jew hater”
    \$770 “Lets stick to mainstream shit.”
    #782 “You poor poor gentile whites just lying around in your pee pee, cause you cannot stand up to those big bad Jews.”
    #791 “Yo everyone on this site, check this dude out. Yeah baby. STD’s from a bris.”
    #841 “you do not have the intellectual ability to do. Thank Allah there are maybe 1000 people as dumb as a door knob like you”
    #852 “I would never speak about another religions holy books in that manner.”
    #875 Never? “demented Catholic/Christian, …A classic Jew hater”
    #885 “people “outside” the normal psychological lines… “dumb goyim” is a valid score… mental deficient people, … obsessive beyond reason.… dumb goyim … wackos.”
    #894 “definition of sicko… irrational … incoherent, off the wall … cannot live a normal life without this lust for hatred and destruction”
    #916 “Maybe [what the Talmud says about Jesus] is true, since you are a devoted follower.”
    #919 “Don’t like Jesus lying in boiling feces, stop bothering me. I am almost sure he is.
    Looking forward to you boiling with extra hot sauce.”
    #930 “If you follow this thread you are at the end of a long assault on Jews and Judaism with disgusting stereotypes, name calling and accusations that are beyond ….. verging on harassment.”
    #940 “however stupid, and impenetrable your hatred is.
    It is sole based on ignorance.”
    #940 “YOU ARE A RACIST”
    #944 “out of context”
    #947 “however stupid, and impenetrable your hatred is.
    It is sole based on ignorance.”
    #956 “antisemite”
    #960 “antisemitism… Look I am not here to defend every Jew or every Israeli, how pointless. Stop fucking with the morality of most Jews.”
    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-war-criminals-in-their-own-words/

    • Thanks: John Wear
  263. @BuelahMan

    You continue to inspire all us rednecks.

    Thanks for all you do.

    Happy Cinco de Mayo.

    curiously, not a single “PROSELYTE” to Talmudic Judaism HAD to be a so-called “Jew”
    in the first place.

    ….as there are no so-called “Jews” in the Old Testament.

  264. Skeptikal says:
    @Rogue

    Wrong, Rogue.

    Reading comprehension fail.

    What I said:
    Such archives exist.

  265. Skeptikal says:
    @Rogue

    Ha ha ha.

    I find it hilarious that commenters here think that the UR is the locus of serious research on the Third Reich. As someone stated earlier, virtually anyone who comes to this site is a “denier” of some stripe or another. It is real circle jerk. No one with actual credentials who knows anything comes to this site to bother to go head to head with these jokers.

    This is not the first UR thread on the Holocaust. It is always the same circle jerk.

    I have cited, for example, the Topf documents and documentary, but the usual hysterical suspects start flinging shit and shouting “That was disproved!” But they of course bring no evidence of this.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Disagree: Al Liguori
  266. Al Liguori says: • Website

    Photos? Faked photos! https://judaism.is/holocaust.html#photoshttp://judaism.is/images/fake2a.jpg?crc=251548760 double-exposed:http://judaism.is/images/fake3.jpg?crc=524948920Executed Germans passed off by Simon Wiesenthal as Jews: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/05/18/fake-holocaust-pictures-the-legacy-of-simon-wiesenthal/ Work camp faked photos: http://beyondnews.info/post/49864536404/concentration-camps-fake-photos-photoshoppedhttp://judaism.is/images/fake6.jpg?crc=497949798http://judaism.is/images/fake7a.jpg?crc=4040138257 Desperate to pretend that Catholics were/are Nazis, this photo was captioned: “Future pope’s Nazi salute was a blessing to Nazis”Except that this is the original uncropped image of the Ratzinger brothers (Joseph was ordained in 1951, six years after the war):
    HABITUAL LIARS EXACTLY AS THEIR “TORAH” COMMANDS! http://judaism.is/torah-encourages-lies.html

    • Thanks: John Wear, RedpilledAF
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  267. Anon[193] • Disclaimer says:

    Hi Fran, this is Moishe from Israel, I’m taking an apology tour of Germany. We shouldn’t have allowed the Zionists to slander their good name all these tears. Not to mention reparations for absolutely nothing. Do you want to join me?

  268. Skeptikal says:
    @Skeptikal

    Why should an adult person keep knocking heads again and again with dolts?
    Dolts who cannot distinguish between the ideas of Holocaust denial and Holocaust revision. They also cannot distinguish between the idea of Holocaust Denial and the idea of free speech concerning Holocaust Denial.

    In past threads I have drawn commenter’s–or, make that dolts’—attention to a basic source, one that cites primary sources held in Polish archives, Danuta Czech’s Auschwitz Kalendarium, 1939–1945 ( (among other things such as info on the T4 program and other sources in German that explain the inconsistent-over-time nature of gasing operations). This is a compendium of basically all the documentation available as of the 1980s regarding the actual operations of Auschwitz—primary sources found mainly on-site.

    So, Mr. Rogue, you can go right there to find your first-rank Polish sources.
    I do not claim to read Polish but I am not such a numbskull as to think that what I cannot do, others cannot do.
    Jesus.
    Pathetic.
    This book is available also in Polish, for those who possess this skill.
    BTW, it is also available in English, for those who possess *that* skill!
    Read it before making any further dumb comments.

    Of course the UR Holocaust Denier Circle Jerkers immediately howl that Czech’s book is “made up,” a forgery, Czech was an imposter . . .
    I suppose these HD Circle Jerkers read enough Polish to make this objective assessment . . .
    Ditto the Topf documentary and Firma Topf documents . . . They know enough German to assess these sources. Not, of course.

    As they continue their mental self-massage.

    Frankly, it is almost an honor to be labeled a dolt by dolts and self-important Holocaust Denial Circle Jerkers who think they are making serious contributions to the study of the Third Reich.

  269. @Carolyn Yeager

    ‘…Well, you’re British…’

    I suppose that’s an improvement over being accused of being Jewish, which has happened to me a couple of times here.

    …how did you decide I was British?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  270. @Carolyn Yeager

    ‘…But the Jews and their cohorts will never accept the verdict of such an impartial panel. They have to have everything their way. That suggests the only thing to do is to get rid of the Jews (as the Germans of the Third Reich concluded), by which I mean excluding them from the “showdown” process. Taking power from Da Jews is then the necessary first step, not last step, and they call that antisemitism. See how they’ve thought of everything!’

    I dunno what to do with you, Carolyn. I don’t particularly enjoy your verbal abuse, and I certainly don’t agree with everything you say — but I agree with about half of it.

    I think you should be put on some mild tranquilizer. It’d help, and you’d probably do more good that way.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  271. @Al Liguori

    This is pretty good.

    …but proving someone gilded the lily is not the same as proving there is no lily.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    , @eah
    , @HeebHunter
  272. @Skeptikal

    You show photos and the deniers say they are fake. But all of the Holocaust deniers research, photographs and testimony is real. How does that work? You cannot challenge their findings. Odd no?

    Here is a rational way to look at Holocaust denial that is very sound. This from a scientist.

    https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/not-the-science/

    Conclusion
    There are a few points that may be learned from examining Rudolf’s response. The first is Rudolf’s admission that chemistry cannot offer the absolute disproof that the Final Solution that so many deniers would like to see. Additionally, the chemical arguments that he makes do not hold up under scrutiny.
    Should we then conclude that Markiewicz et al. have proved that the Final Solution took place? No, these researchers showed rather that all of the installations they studied, in which the historical record shows that mass murder by gassing took place, contain traces of cyanide. Historians and (real) scientists share a concept called the convergence of evidence. Absolute proof exists only with the postulates of pure math or logic. In the physical world, the most that we can hope for is a convergence of evidence: to borrow a phrase from the legal world, we might seek proof “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
    Meanwhile, the field that Rudolf claims can offer such proof is a field in which he has no expertise. As if to confirm the worthlessness of his own work, he has been reduced to yet another parrot of Faurisson and Ball. The arguments regarding aerial photos and the supposed lack of holes in the gas chamber roofs will be addressed on this website at a future date. At the present time, it is sufficient to show that Rudolf’s criticisms of “The Chemistry of Auschwitz” and “Leuchter, Rudolf, and the Iron Blues” have not successfully addressed those works. His opinion is just one man’s opinion, and it happens to be wrong.

    Thus we see that the deniers’ chemical arguments are faulty and do not – cannot – demonstrate the invalidity of history.

    About the Authors
    Dr. Richard J. Green received his PhD. in physical chemistry from Stanford University in 1997 under the guidance of Professor Richard N. Zare. He is currently a postdoc and faculty intern at a major university in the western United States.
    Jamie McCarthy has examined and researched the claims of Holocaust-deniers since 1992.

    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @Al Liguori
  273. Researchers showed rather that all of the installations they studied, in which the historical record shows that mass murder by gassing took place, contain traces of cyanide. Historians and (real) scientists share a concept called the convergence of evidence. Absolute proof exists only with the postulates of pure math or logic. In the physical world, the most that we can hope for is a convergence of evidence: to borrow a phrase from the legal world, we might seek proof “beyond a reasonable doubt.”

  274. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    So… Where is “the lily” in any of those photos? Or others? Stacks of bodies? Typhus, starvation… even stacks of post-war German bodies, victims of the Morgenthau-Eisenhower death camps http://judaism.is/aftermath.html , and a USA train wreck. Besides there are bona fide photos of .gov/.zog atrocities against non-combatants—Dresden, Hamburg, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and Tokyo.
    The “eyewitness” testimony is equally laughable. https://judaism.is/holocaust.html#eyewitnesses

    They have been lying about their fake victimhood since before Titus and Vespasian. Their damned “holy” books exhort lies… and that is exactly what they have done. Theirs is a tribe of habitual compulsive liars, looters, perverts, and murderers. I don’t need to accuse them. God already accused them. In the same breath of Osee 4:1-2 and John 8:44 God accused them of being murderers and so they are. Some of them died in world wars they started. https://judaism.is/world-wars.html So what? Cry me a river.

    Meanwhile Satan’s Chosen are ginning up their third world war to extinguish the “satanic sparks,” the lives and souls of Gentiles, all of that to hasten arrival of their “moshiach” (anti-Christ). https://judaism.is/kabbalah.html and Fran, UR’s resident psychopathic supremacist, parrots the lies, whatever is convenient at any given moment.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  275. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Skeptikal

    Ha ha ha. I find it hilarious that …

    anyone finds any importance in the Jewish holocaust fable. Too infrequently in this life revolutionaries, warmongers, usurers, child sex slavers, and cultural parasites/destroyers suffer consequences.

    Judging from the behavior of Rothschild, Soros, and Chabaniks like Fran http://judaism.is/chabad.html , the consequences—whether 6 gajillion or 6 dozen—were insufficient to ameliorate Jewish supremacism, malevolence and genocide.

    I prefer a Catholic approach https://judaism.is/catholic-action.html with punishment of the guilty, repatriation of loot, and a return to Christendom’s common sense controls on Jews that were effective for a millennium. http://judaism.is/the-church-on-the-jews.html Unfortunately many people who are not restrained by Christian emorality have awaken to the Jewish problem, admire moustache man, and are unlikely to repeat his mistakes.

  276. @Commentator Mike

    The psychic epidemic churned up by CoViD hysteria and years of MSM lying and brainwashing has led to an outpouring of hatred towards Russia, Russians, Russian culture worthy of any psychopathic cult. But it is nothing besides what has already begun to be fomented against China, the Chinese and Chinese culture, with much worse to come. The West IS HATRED, destruction and murder.

  277. @Fran Taubman

    Those who totally deny the Nazi Judeocide are the mirror image of ‘Holocaust’ pseudo-religious fanatics like you, who HYSTERICALLY DEMAND that every goy and every Jew MUST repeat the dogma of the ‘Holocaust’ pseudo-religion without ANY deviation. For myself, I believe that three to four million Jews were murdered, and that murdering three to four thousand, or hundred, or individuals, of ANY group, is an abomination.
    What is worse, and a typical insult to all goyim, is the absolute insistence that the Nazi Judeocide is ‘unique’, obviously not in size, but in essence or quality, because the victims were a higher type, and more precious, than mere Armenians, Bengalis, Persians, Chinese, Iraqis and other lesser breeds. THAT is the ‘Holocaust’ religion’s most detestable feature.

  278. eah says:
    @Colin Wright

    … but proving someone gilded the lily is not the same as proving there is no lily.

    This is akin to the comment above about ‘missing Jews’ (#196):

    No Holocaust denier can ever tell you what happened to the missing Jews, that vanished without a trace the day they arrived at Auschwitz.

    It isn’t the responsibility of ‘deniers’ to explain what happened to unnamed supposedly ‘missing Jews’, or to somehow ‘prove’ the conventional ‘Holocaust’ story is a myth — any such (implied) request is specious, and should be rejected.

    As alleged, the ‘Holocaust’ is a crime, not just of mass murder, but as a state conspiracy to commit mass murder — it is the responsibility of those who claim these crimes occurred to provide convincing evidence of this, preferably to the ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ standard (not to mention ‘innocent until proven guilty’) — and this is exactly the problem for ‘exterminationists’: for many skeptics (‘revisionists’), the evidence is simply not convincing (enough), e.g. there is really no forensic (physical) evidence at all for what is claimed to be the greatest organized mass murder in history.

    • Thanks: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  279. @Priss Factor

    There seems to be a pattern wherein “certain people” in the west have an obsession with martyring and sanctifying the Jews. First they call the Jews the ‘Chosen People’ when they’re chased out of Egypt and other ancient kingdoms in the region. Then a Jew is called the Son of God when he dies on a cross. And today Jewish Holocaust victims are being made sacred (while other victims of WW2 are all but forgotten).

    Yes, it sucked for the Jews that they suffered many victims in WW2 and other events, but so did other ethnic groups suffer, such as the Slavs, Romani, Poles, Czechs, etc. and you don’t hear of any hysterical lobbying to sanctify their victims. If we’re going to sanctify all those 6 million Jewish victims, don’t the Russians have much greater right to have their WW2 victims sanctified, considering that they number into 27 million deaths, if not more?

    Yet the West today is demonizing the two greatest groups of victims from WW2 by making these ethnic groups, who were historical victims of fascism, equivalent to Nazis. The West is pretending that Russians, the greatest victim of WW2 with 27 million deaths, and the Chinese, the 2nd largest group of victims with 20 million deaths, are the Nazis. And as the West completely take over the Holocaust narrative, they are waving token-Jews like the coke-snorting Zelensky around to claim the moral high ground. It’s like watching a paedo rapist co-opting the narrative from one of its child victims who died to now browbeat with it the other victims who managed to grow up — and is utterly depraved and despicable.

    And of course the Jews will heavily lean into the Western elite’s sanctification of their Holocaust victims, since it also greatly benefits them.

  280. @Commentator Mike

    Should we all just shut up then? Abandon hope of justice and truth?

    It is true that the kikes’ grip upon the world is tightening up. But the muscle of the grip is fed with only fiat money and the rapidly faggotizing US armed forces, which we can count on to literally kill themselves because they are all confirmed trans freaks on meds.

    Any westerners left worth a damn are non-zionist Christians, and we have time on our side. If the yids nuke the world, they lose. Further on without MAD, China, Russia and India will cut them out, sentencing the yids to a well deserved death because they can only function as parasites.

    I believe in God, justice and truth. The whole corona hoax has made us only stronger. I laugh at the kikes with my totally legal vax pass, lol.

    • Thanks: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  281. @Skeptikal

    The kikes themselves are responsible for the Holohoax, the camps, and the fictional theater surrounding it.

    I mean if you were going to do revenge on the entire German nation through gross exaggration, confession obtained through torture, forcing people to accept the masturbation machine, muh lampshade and soap, the ass goblins, usw.

    Then terrorizing everyone through kosher (((legalism))) for at least 4 generations afterwards.

    These fucking kikes have dug this hole. Either the Holohoax must be abolished for being a myth, or we still have to accept the Assgoblin of Auschiwtz and schindler’s list as fact. You do know schindler’s list was fiction, right?

    • Agree: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @HdC
    , @Skeptikal
  282. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “Thus we see that the deniers’ chemical arguments are faulty and do not – cannot – demonstrate the invalidity of history.”

    My response: I am familiar with Dr. Richard J. Green and his work. You can read an article I wrote on this subject at https://inconvenienthistory.com/9/4/5160.

    • Thanks: mark green
    • Replies: @HdC
    , @Fran Taubman
  283. Towey says:
    @John Wear

    Thank you for this. And thank you for your excellent book ‘ Germany’s War’ . I’ve been recommending it to everyone I know.

    • Thanks: John Wear
  284. anarchyst says:
    @Al Liguori

    Jews have to be “the bride at every wedding” and “the corpse at every funeral”. It is their propensity for mental illness that demands such jewish supremacist gymnastics.
    Jewish mental illness starts with their “male genital mutilation” ritual performed 8 days after birth. STDs are transmitted to the male jew infant by the dirty mohel who fellates the infant after the “deed is done”. As most venereal diseases and STDs do not manifest their symptoms until adulthood, the preponderance of mental illness in jews is greatly pronounced.
    Jewish suffering is “above and beyond” any suffering experienced by mere “goy”…

  285. @Skeptikal

    Septical writes:

    I find it hilarious that commenters here think that the UR is the locus of serious research on the Third Reich. As someone stated earlier, virtually anyone who comes to this site is a “denier” of some stripe or another.

    This statement above, coming from someone who still hasn’t worked out that the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax is yet another Zio orchestrated scam to impoverish the goyim.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  286. HdC says:
    @HeebHunter

    They certainly got the ball rolling in 1933: “Judea Declares War on Germany”, as the newspaper headlines proclaimed at that time.
    Notice that it says “WAR”, not boycott or such similar downplay as per the modern narrative on this.
    After that the Jews have the effing temerity to whine and moan when the Germans fight back hammer and tongs.
    The worst part is that the majority of western populations still believe the swindle “Germany bad, communists and allies good”.

    • Agree: Al Liguori, anarchyst
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  287. HdC says:
    @John Wear

    Just read your missive regarding the chemical arguments.
    Another tour de force rebuttal of holocaustianity!
    Thank you.
    One thing that never ceases to amaze me: Holocaustianity narratives always strike me as contrived nonsense; Denier’s narratives appear as well thought out arguments.
    Of course, Fran would state that I am biased which, after everything I have read on this topic over a period of 40 years or so, would be an accurate assessment.
    Only those that profit from the holocaustianity narrative carry on with their nonsensical assertions.

    • Thanks: John Wear
  288. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Skeptikal

    I repeat myself. Why flog any number?

    They started the war. Some of them died. 6 gazillion or 6 dozen? So what? Cry me a river.

    HoloHoax obsession is just a variant of the “antisemitism has no cause” (((psychopathology))).

    The self-touted “geniuses” have always resisted honest self-reflection.

    Day by day (((they))) make it ever harder to believe “not all Jews.”

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  289. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    “… ALL of the Holocaust deniers research, photographs and testimony is real. ” [emphasis added]

    “All”? Utter rubbish. Just another instance of Torah-sanctioned lying: lying to gentiles (Baba Kamma 113a), lying to keep out of trouble (for “peace”) (Yebamoth 65b), and lying when everyone should know you are lying, guzmah (Hullin 90b). http://judaism.is/torah-encourages-lies.html

    According to the chief liars at Yad Vashem, 30 “eyewitnesses [at Nuremberg] referred to the persecutions of the Jews,” https://www.yadvashem.org/holocaust/about/end-of-war-aftermath/nuremberg-trials.html but not all such references bolster the “irrefutable” criminalized details of the Jewish HoloHoax fable. “Persecution”? For declaring war? Declared internal enemies are “persecuted”?

    Consider the preponderance of the evidence.

    Stacked against those “30” are dozens of confessed liars and and hundreds who have made patently false imbecilic testimony.

    Here are a fraction of the hundreds of confessed liars, including Wiesenthal, Wiesel, and Lipstadt: http://judaism.is/holocaust.html#eyewitnesses

    Here are links to over 500 instances of imbecilic testimony (including supposed “eyewitnesses” beyond Nuremberg’s kangaroo court): http://judaism.is/holocaust.html#imbecilictestimony

    When an honest person eliminates Ehrenberg’s faked photos http://judaism.is/holocaust.html#photos , what is left? Nothing but some Jews who died of typhus and starvation exactly as multiples of Germans died of the same causes outside the work camps.

    And then there is the ever inconvenient question, “Where are the bodies?”

    To put a fine point on it, the preponderance of the evidence weighs against the Holocaust fables. Again we freely stipulate that some Jews died, but so what? You Jews started the war and your own damned “holy” books insist that ALL Jews are COLLECTIVELY and TRANSGENERATIONALLY responsible for Jewish deeds (Shevuot 39a). So you, Fran are culpable under both your own halakha and our laws against accomplice. In spreading your HoloHoax and other lies and defending Jewish crimes against humanity, you have made yourself an accomplice.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  290. @anon

    The USS Liberty incident would be my first choice.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  291. Skeptikal says:
    @HeebHunter

    Hmm, Liam Neeson is not Oskar Schindler. And the fact that someone took Schindler’s story as the basis for a work of fiction doesn’t cancel the actual story— which, like real life generally, is considerably messier than a plot for a hit movie.

    Here it is.
    Viel Spass! Und leb wohl!

    http://www.muzeum.svitavy.cz/stale-exp/oskar-schindler/biographie/251-3/

    Biographie

    [MORE]

    Die Lebensgeschichte von Oskar Schindler begann in Zwittau [Svitavy], einer Kleinstadt im Sudetenland, wo seit Jahrhunderten drei Nationen nebeneinander lebten – Deutsche, Tschechen und Juden. Ihre Koexistenz war nicht problemlos, allerdings lebten sie bis zu der Machtübernahme durch die Nazis in den dreißiger Jahren des 20. Jahrhunderts in einer positiven Symbiose.

    Typisch, daß in der selben Straße, wo Schindler lebte, auch der Rabbi der Zwittauer Judengemeinde wohnte, mit dessen Kinder der junge Schindler aufgewachsen ist und oft gespielt hat. Gerade hier könnte man die Spuren herausfinden der späteren Motivation für Schindlers Kriegsentscheidung die Arbeiter seiner Fabrik vor sicherem Tod im Konzentrationslager auf dem Gebiet des besetzten Polens zu retten.

    Oskar Schindler ist am 28. April 1908 in der Iglauer (heute Poličská) Straße Nr. 24 geboren. Er stammte aus der Familie des Kleinunternehmers Hans Schindler und seiner Frau Františka. Nach der Pflichtschule (1915 – 1920) ließ er sich zum Studium am Stolz der Stadt – der Staatsrealschule – einschreiben. Die mußte er aber 1924 verlassen, angeblich wegen Fälschung der Studienergebnisse. Zu der Zeit kannte man bereits den treffenden Spitznamen Schindler – gauner.

    Er liebte Frauen, sorgloses Leben und schnelle Motorräder. Seine unbezähmbare Natur und Konflikte mit dem Gesetz führten ihn bis zum Bruch mit dem Vater, bei dem er gearbeitet hat. Bei einer seiner Geschäftsreisen lernte er Emilie Pelzl kennen, ein wunderhübsches Mädchen aus Starý Maletín unweit von Zwittau. Persönlichkeitszauber und Charme des jungen Mannes beeindruckten Emilie so, daß sie trotz dem Willen der Eltern der Heirat am 8. März 1928 zustimmte. Die glückliche Ehe dauerte aber nicht lange und ist gescheitert, obwohl Emilie den Oskar bei alle wichtigen Lebensentscheidungen begleitet hat und eine wesentliche Rolle auch in der Fürsorge für die Häftlinge in Brněnec spielte. Davon aber später.

    In den konfliktvollen dreißiger Jahren des 20. Jahrhunderts, in den das Land durch eine Wirtschaftskrise schwer erschüttert wurde, versuchte Oskar Schindler sein unternehmerisches Glück. Völlig erfolglos. Er kam zu seiner alten Lebensweise zurück, die auch eine Notwendigkeit hoher Einkommen bedeutete. Kein Wunder also, daß den jungen Mann die Arbeit für den Reichsnachrichtendienst Abwehr lockte, für den er seit 1935 arbeitet. Er beteiligt sich an Spionage gegen die Tschechoslowakei und gegen Polen, sammelt wichtige Kontakte, entgeht dabei aber auch nicht der Aufmerksamkeit des tschechoslowakischen Aufklärungsdienstes.

    Das Ergebnis war Schindlers Verhaftung im Hotel Ungar (heute Hotel Slavia) auf dem Zwittauer Platz am 18. Juli 1938. Nach Verhören in Brünn wurde er zur bewährungslosen Gefängnisstrafe verurteilt, nach dem Münchner Abkommen allerdings amnestiert. Gemeinsam mit seiner Frau Emilie zog er nach Mährisch Ostrau um.

    Am 17. Oktober 1939, nach dem Nazieinbruch nach Polen, fährt er nach Krakau, wo er als Treuhänder eine kleine jüdische Geschirrfabrik gewonnen hat. Dank seiner Kontakte und dem Kapital der früheren Besitzer begann er polnische Arbeiter zu beschäftigen. Mit den Armeeaufträgen wurde innerhalb von einem Jahr aus Schindlers Fabrik D.E.F. (Deutsche Emailenwarenfabrik) ein florierendes Unternehmen.

    Seit 1940 tauchen unter den Beschäftigten im größeren Maße auch Juden auf. Schrittweise stieg ihre Zahl auf 150 und es wurden noch mehr. Schindlers Fabrik genieß unter den Arbeitern jüdischer Nation den Ruf einer Zufluchtsstätte, das Umgehen mit den Arbeitern war menschlich und die Juden durften hier auch beten. Wichtig war auch die Freundschaft zwischen Schindler und den früheren jüdischen Unternehmern, die ihn in den Schwarzmarkthandel eingeweiht haben.

    Zur wichtigen Geschäftsmethode wurde die Korruption. Schindler war ein willkommener Gast bei vielen Feiern und unförmlichen Abenden, Besitzer mehrerer Wohnungen und sein Lebensniveau ging steil nach oben. Er genieß einen Schutz einflußreicher Freunde und der Abwehr. Er konnte auch den Bemühungen der Gestapo widerstehen, die ihn mehrmals verhaftet hat und nach Fürsprache einflußreicher Freunde wieder freilassen mußte. Und Schindler hat sich immer „uneigennützig“ erkenntlich gezeigt.

    Die Nachrichten über eine „bessere Situation” der Juden in Schindlers Fabrik blieben nicht lange geheim. Schindler wurde durch die jüdische Organisation Joint Distribution Committee mit Sitz in Budapest kontaktiert und traf sich mit einem budapester Kurrier. Er übergab der jüdischen Widerstandsbewegung in Krakau einen höheren Geldbetrag, Briefe und dem Kurier ermöglichte er in Krakau zu fotografieren.

    Anfang Juni 1942 kam es zur ersten Razzia der SS Einheiten im Ghetto, wo an 7000 Menschen ins Vernichtungslager Belzec abtransportiert wurden und dort ermordet. Die Brutalität des Eingriffs beeinflußte das Verhalten von Oskar Schindler, der sich nun bemüht den jüdischen Häftlingen zu helfen. Auf dem Grundstück der anliegenden Fabrik baute er eine „Nächtigungsstätte“ für seine Arbeiter, damit diese den Exzessen im Ghetto entgehen.

    Das Ende des Ghettos konnte man aber nicht abwenden, da seit Ende 1942 ein Lager in der Krakauer Vorstadt Plaszow gebaut wurde. Im Februar 1943 kam Amon Goeth nach Karakau mit der Beauftragung Ghetto zu liquidieren und die Juden ins neu gebaute Lager zu übersiedeln, das bis zu 25000 Häftlinge fassen sollte. Der pragmatische Schindler hat mit diesem Mensch Bekannschaft angeknüpft und verbrachte viel Zeit mit ihm bei verschiedenen Feiern. Vom Goeth erfuhr er auch das genaue Datum der Liquidation des Ghettos. Die Nazis hatten die Liquidation genau geplant.

    Am Samstag, den 13. März 1943, wurde das Krakauer Ghetto mit einem brutalen Eingriff liquidiert, Schindler aber ließ seine Arbeiter drei Tage lang in der Fabrik und schiebt sie erst nach Abklingen des Eingriffs ins Lager von Plaszow. Eine weitere Komplikation folgte. Die Juden wurden gezwungen den Weg ins Schindlers Werk unter einer SS Eskorte zu absolvieren, wo sie unterwegs ihrem Terror ausgeliefert waren. Oft passierte es, daß sie zu spät in die Fabrik kamen, und Schindler entschied sich für seine Arbeiter ein eigenes Lager zu bauen. Mit Schmiergeld ist es ihm auch gelungen und in Zablocie, unweit der Fabrik, wurde ein Lager für die Schindlerjuden gebaut, wie seine Arbeiter inzwischen genannt wurden. Schindler war bemüht in seiner Fabrik Juden auf Empfehlung der engen Kreise aus seiner Umgebung zu beschäftigen. Eine wichtige Rolle spielte dabei Isaac Stern. Sterns Idee war es auch die Brutalität von Goeth durch Alkohollieferungen zu mindern.

    Die Ostfront ist aber immer näher. Im Frühjahr 1944 wurde die Panik unter den Nazis so groß, daß entschieden wurde viele Lager samt ihren Häftlingen schnellstens zu liquidieren. Dies betraf auch das Lager in Plaszow. Im Lauf des Jahres fuhren viele Transporte mit Häftlingen in die noch funktionierenden Konzentrationslager. Schindlers Fabrik wurde geschlossen, das Lager in Zablocie liquidiert und die Arbeiter nach Plaszow verschoben. Schindler mußte eine grundsätzliche Frage lösen: was nun. Er hatte zwei Möglichkeiten: entweder konnte er die Häftlinge ihrem Schicksal überlassen und selbst in die Sicherheit eines neutralen Landes flüchten. Oder aber das Unmögliche zu versuchen und die Fabrik samt Arbeitern ins Binnenland zu übersiedeln. Allen Erwartungen zum Trotz wählte Schindler die zweite Variante.

    Hier begannen die fieberhaften Vorbereitungen der berühmten Schindlers Liste mit Namen etwa 700 Männer und 300 Frauen. Diese etwa 1000 Menschen waren vorbereitet zum Transport zum neuen Bestimmungsort. Schindler wählte eine kleine Gemeinde nahe Zwittau – Brněnec (zu deutsch Brünnlitz) zum Ziel. Dort wurde in einer ehemaligen Textilfabrik der Löw-Beers ein Lager gebaut, der zum Bestandteil des Konzentrationslagers Groß-Rosen wurde. Auf der zusammengestellten Liste werden Berufe fingiert und Alter der Häftlinge gefälscht. Trotz einiger Zwischenfälle war die Bemühung der Autoren der Liste womöglich ganze Familien einzutragen. Das Ergebnis waren getrennte Transporte für Männer (über Groß Rosen) und für Frauen (über Auschwitz) nach Brünnlitz.

    Nach Ankunft in Brünnlitz mußten die Männer vorläufig auf dem Boden nächtigen, da das Lager noch nicht fertig war. Im Lager wurde 11 Stunden am Tag gearbeitet und es herrschte ein strenges Regime. Interessant ist die Tatsache, daß ins Lager in Brünnlitz auch Schindlers Frau Emilie kam, um für die Häftlinge zu sorgen. Bleibt nur noch die Antwort auf die Frage, was in dem Lager in Brünnlitz produziert wurde? Wahrscheinlich Bestandteile für Munition gegen Flugzeuge, obwohl auch einige Andeutungen meinen, Schindler hätte einige Produkte auf dem Schwarzmarkt eingekauft um sie dann für eigene auszugeben.

    Man kann nicht annehmen, das Lager in Brünnlitz sei ein „Paradies“ gewesen, sicher ist aber, daß Schindler versuchte, gemeinsam mit einer Gruppe eingeweihter Häftlinge, das Schicksal seiner Juden zu erleichtern. Ein Nachweis dafür ist auch ein Transport jüdischer Häftlinge von Holešov im Januar 1945, der von Schindler ins Lager aufgenommen wurde. Es handelte sich um etwa 100 halberfrohrene Häftlinge, die im Zug auf dem Zwittauer Bahnhof stehen geblieben sind. Trotz aller Fürsorge der Emilie Schindler und Assistenz anderer Häftlinge sind etwa 16 Menschen gestorben, die in einem Massengrab in der Gemeinde Německá Bělá in der Nachbarschaft von Brünnlitz begraben wurden.

    Anfang Mai 1945 befürchtete Schindler die schnell voranschreitende Rote Armee und bereitete sich zur Flucht. Die Häftlinge selbst haben ihm bei diesen Bemühungen geholfen. Sie haben ihm Begleitung gemacht, die bestätigen sollte, daß er jüdische Häftlinge vor sicherem Tod gerettet hat. Zum Abschied schenkten sie ihm einen goldenen Ring mit der Aufschrift Wir danken. Oskar Schindler verließ am 9. Mai 1945 Brünnlitz mit dem Ziel in die amerikanische Zone zu kommen. Mit ihm fuhr eine Gruppe Häftlinge und seine Frau Emilie. Nach dem Verhör in amerikanischer Gefangenschaft und nach der Bezeugung der geretteten Juden wurden sie freigelassen und konnten ihren Weg in den Westen fortsetzen.

    Das Lager in Brünnlitz wurde am 9. Mai 1945 durch die Rote Armee befreit und ehemalige Häftlinge konnten zurück nach Polen fahren. Das definitive Ende des Lagers war der 25. Mai 1945, wo das Lager durch russische Repatriierungskommission aufgelöst wurde.

    Oskar Schindler versuchte nach dem Krieg erfolglos in Deutscland Fuß zu fassen und nachher in Argentinien. Jedesmal mit gleichem Mißerfolg. Seine Frau Emilie ließ er in Argentinien und zog selbst, unterstützt durch seine Juden, nach Deutschland. Er begann zu trinken. Die geretteten Juden haben Geld für ihn so schnell gesammelt, wie schnell er es ausgeben konnte. Er bekam eine Ehrenrente, zu klein um den Verbrauch von Alkohol und Zigaretten decken zu können.

    Er bekam eine Reihe internationaler Auszeichnungen, das silberne Verdienstkreuz, der Papst Paul VI. verleiht im seinen Orden, sowie viele andere. Seine Verdienste erinnerte auch der berühmte Nazijäger Simon Wiesenthal. Eine Auszeichnung kam auch von der jüdischen Seite, wo er zum Gerechten unter den Völkern genannt wurde und in der Allee der Gerechten zu Jerusalem einen Olivenbaum einsetzen durfte. Die Kinder in Israel kennen seinen Namen aus den Lehrbüchern.

    Er starb am 9. Oktober 1974 und seine Überreste wurden auf den Friedhof auf dem Sionberg zu Jerusalem übertragen. Auf einem Ehrentafel im Judendenkmal in Jerusalem steht: „Wir danken Gott, daß er unser war“. Schindlers Lebensgeschichte wurde zum Vorbild für den Roman des australischen Schriftstellers Thomas Keneally „Schindler´s Ark“ (1982), wonach 1994 Steven Spielberg sein Film „Schindler´s List“ gedreht hat. Anläßlich der feierlichen Vorpremiere des Films in seiner Geburtsstadt Svitavy wurde eine Gedenktafel gegenüber seinem Geburtshaus enthüllt, mit der tschechisch-deutschen Aufschrift: „Dem unvergessenen Lebensretter 1200 verfolgter Juden.“

    [Fotos]- Vergrößern
    Oskar Schindler (1908 – 1974)
    Tempel in Zwittau auf heutigem Malé náměstí-Platz in Zwittau (1938)
    Das Geburtshaus Oskar Schindlers auf der Poličská-Straße (1994)

    Das Gebäude der Knaben-Bürgerschule (1915)

    Realschule, aus der Oskar Schindler wegen der Schulzeugnis-Fälschung verwiesen wurde
    Zobrazit všechny fotografie »
    Město Svitavy Pardubický kraj Středisko

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  292. Skeptikal says:
    @Al Liguori

    Stick to the subject.
    Which is the period from 1933 to 1945.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    , @Fran Taubman
  293. Skeptikal says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    “This statement above, coming from someone who still hasn’t worked out that the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax is yet another Zio orchestrated scam to impoverish the goyim. ”

    Huh? [scratches head]

  294. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Skeptikal

    Stick to the subject.
    Which is the period from 1933 to 1945.

    Who died and made you Nasi of the Sanhedrin? I repeat:

    They started the war. Some of them died. 6 gazillion or 6 dozen? So what? Cry me a river.

  295. @eah

    ‘…As alleged, the ‘Holocaust’ is a crime, not just of mass murder, but as a state conspiracy to commit mass murder — it is the responsibility of those who claim these crimes occurred to provide convincing evidence of this, preferably to the ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ standard (not to mention ‘innocent until proven guilty’) — and this is exactly the problem for ‘exterminationists’…’

    Whether any such responsibility exists depends on one’s intentions.

    Indeed, you would be right if you were attempting to hold someone criminally responsible in a Western court of law, or if you were seeking to somehow prove the absolute certainty that the event occurred.

    But I am not seeking to do either one of those things; I’m certainly not one of those seeking to drag ninety three year old pensioners into court, assign reparations, etc. Nor am I trying to determine whether something can be said to have occurred with philosophical or even scientific certainty.

    I am merely choosing which I think is more likely; that the Holocaust occurred largely as described, or that it didn’t. I’ll go with the former.

    It’s like if you asked me if June 5th will be warmer than today, May 5th. I’ll go with warmer.

    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @eah
  296. @HdC

    ‘They certainly got the ball rolling in 1933: “Judea Declares War on Germany”, as the newspaper headlines proclaimed at that time.
    Notice that it says “WAR”, not boycott or such similar downplay as per the modern narrative on this…’

    I think that is a point in the argument.

    At the same time, I wouldn’t put too much weight on it. It is a newspaper headline: if I read ‘Bengals Crush Chargers’ I won’t expect to then read of forty two dead.

    Too, Germany had just elected an avowed anti-semite as chancellor; it was to be expected that there would be a negative reaction from the Jewish community.

    As I’ve stated, I don’t mind Holocaust deniers (as long as they can keep from flaming me) but they do seem to seize on a few shreds of often trivial or ultimately irrelevant evidence and disregard the overwhelming mass of the material to reach what I suspect are conclusions that owe more to their emotional preferences than to any rational appraisal of the totality of the evidence.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    , @gregor
  297. @Colin Wright

    Well, Dr. Meds, am I to take that as sincere advice? Is that the secret of your “laid-backness” and overall unconcern and tranquil personality? No thanks, I don’t see you as someone to emulate.

    I am, in fact, very peaceful and unstressed without the aid of artificial substances. I’m not nervous or worried.

    You don’t comment on the words you’ve quoted from me. You mention you agree with half of what I write, but not what half. This is the kind of “cat & mouse” game you play to keep people on the hook with you, I guess. I’m referring to those 14,000 plus comments. So I’ll just ask once: what half do you agree with or not agree with? Be specific, not general.

    Maybe you need to know that by “excluding Jews from the show-down” I mean they can’t be members of the imagined ‘large panel of impartial, science-saavy judges” who judge the merits of the holocaust, pro and con. I thought later that to make it fair, Germans should be excluded too. About 15 men & women of highest caliber seems the right number.

    As I was typing that I was unsure, but said ‘what the hell’ and sent it. Afterward, as happens so often with me, I felt good about it, and can see it being an ideal solution. However, I appreciate that in this highly partisan world, the “other side” would object, not cooperate, and demand inappropriate, partisan people be named to it.

  298. Ron Unz says:
    @Skeptikal

    Well, there are also Polish and Russian archives to consider.

    Also, a lot of German archives have yet to be opened for public scrutiny.

    I happened to glance at this thread, and your arguments seem to be avoiding the big picture, namely the gigantic tilt of the informational playing field.

    The media and financial resources controlled by supporters of the conventional Holocaust narrative are probably 1000x greater than that of their opponents. Under these circumstances, we can freely assume that every possible bit of significant factual evidence favoring their side has long since been made available in English and blasted out on every electronic media outlet. The argument that the crucial evidence remains hidden in untranslated Polish or Russian documents that only you have seen is utterly absurd.

    I don’t read Polish, Russian, or German, so I focus on English. I think some of the strongest evidence against the Holocaust narrative is that it was widely regarded as ridiculous war-time propaganda in the years following WWII, and many of America’s top military leaders and Intelligence officers took this position. Meanwhile, the leading Jewish activist organizations never challenged those statements. Here’s a comment of mine from last month, excerpting some of my analysis:

    Some years ago, I came across a totally obscure 1951 book entitled Iron Curtain Over America by John Beaty, a well-regarded university professor. Beaty had spent his wartime years in Military Intelligence, being tasked with preparing the daily briefing reports distributed to all top American officials summarizing available intelligence information acquired during the previous 24 hours, which was obviously a position of considerable responsibility.

    As a zealous anti-Communist, he regarded much of America’s Jewish population as deeply implicated in subversive activity, therefore constituting a serious threat to traditional American freedoms. In particular, the growing Jewish stranglehold over publishing and the media was making it increasingly difficult for discordant views to reach the American people, with this regime of censorship constituting the “Iron Curtain” described in his title. He blamed Jewish interests for the totally unnecessary war with Hitler’s Germany, which had long sought good relations with America, but instead had suffered total destruction for its strong opposition to Europe’s Jewish-backed Communist menace.

    Beaty also sharply denounced American support for the new state of Israel, which was potentially costing us the goodwill of so many millions of Muslims and Arabs. And as a very minor aside, he also criticized the Israelis for continuing to claim that Hitler had killed six million Jews, a highly implausible accusation that had no apparent basis in reality and seemed to be just a fraud concocted by Jews and Communists, aimed at poisoning our relations with postwar Germany and extracting money for the Jewish State from the long-suffering German people.

    Furthermore, he was scathing toward the Nuremberg Trials, which he described as a “major indelible blot” upon America and “a travesty of justice.” According to him, the proceedings were dominated by vengeful German Jews, many of whom engaged in falsification of testimony or even had criminal backgrounds. As a result, this “foul fiasco” merely taught Germans that “our government had no sense of justice.” Sen. Robert Taft, the Republican leader of the immediate postwar era took a very similar position, which later won him the praise of John F. Kennedy in Profiles in Courage. The fact that the chief Soviet prosecutor at Nuremberg had played the same role during the notorious Stalinist show trials of the late 1930s, during which numerous Old Bolsheviks confessed to all sorts of absurd and ridiculous things, hardly enhanced the credibility of the proceedings to many outside observers.

    Then as now, a book taking such controversial positions stood little chance of finding a mainstream New York publisher, but it was soon released by a small Dallas firm, and then became enormously successful, going through some seventeen printings over the next few years. According to Scott McConnell, founding editor of The American Conservative, Beaty’s book became the second most popular conservative text of the 1950s, ranking only behind Russell Kirk’s iconic classic, The Conservative Mind.

    Moreover, although Jewish groups including the ADL harshly condemned the book, especially in their private lobbying, those efforts provoked a backlash, and numerous top American generals, both serving and retired, wholeheartedly endorsed Beaty’s work, denouncing the ADL efforts at censorship and urging all Americans to read the volume. Although Beaty’s quite explicit Holocaust Denial might shock tender modern sensibilities, at the time it seems to have caused barely a ripple of concern and was almost totally ignored even by the vocal Jewish critics of the work.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/#explicit-and-implicit-holocaust-denial-after-world-war-ii

    I discovered this fascinating information in a weighty volume by Prof. Joseph Bendersky, one of America’s leading mainstream Holocaust scholars. Since you seem quite absorbed in the Holocaust, how do you explain these curious facts?

  299. anarchyst says:
    @The_seventh_shape

    Re: The USS Liberty (AGTR-5)…
    Sean Hannity proved that he was fully “bought and paid for” by israel.
    Listening to his radio show, a caller asked him about the June 8, 1967 deliberate attack of an American naval vessel, the USS Liberty (AGTR-5).
    Hannity sputtered in his response and then declared that “israel was our friend and would never have done such a thing”.
    I damn near ran off the road when I heard THAT.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  300. @Jeffrey A Freeman

    ‘So who denies that Germany designated Jews to be their declared enemies and waged a declared war of annihilation against them?’

    Yes on one, no on two.

    In point of fact, if one reads the history of Nazi anti-semitic measures, they began with such measures as the 1933 boycott. These proved catastrophic from a P.R. point of view; the Germans were entirely willing to imbibe anti-semitic propaganda, but tended to jib at actual acts of persecution. Kristallnacht, for example, was definitely not a success.

    So the Nazis kept banging the anti-semitic drum, but they usually carried out their actual measures as quietly as possible. ‘It’s okay; they’re being resettled in the East to work as farmers. See the car of agricultural implements?’ That wasn’t to calm the Jews; it was to placate the Germans.

    Johnson and Reuband, in What We Knew, cite masses of evidence showing that while most Germans had a vague idea that the Jews weren’t having a very good time, they genuinely had no idea that they were being exterminated. One of the most convincing piece of evidence on this score is a survey that was conducted of German Jews who managed to evade detection and live out their lives in Nazi Germany unmolested; there were several hundred such.

    Now these would have had no reason to deny that they ‘really’ knew about the Holocaust. At the same time they were privy to pretty much the same information that most gentile Germans were.

    They didn’t realize the Jews were actually being murdered en masse either. There wasn’t a ‘declared war of annihilation’ against the Jews. It was a decidedly hidden, surreptitious war

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    , @surly
    , @HdC
  301. @Colin Wright

    Your name, of course. Are you not named Colin Wright? Did you give yourself a false name to pass yourself off as English? If so, why?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  302. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Germans starved because of the Jews’ economic crimes against humanity before, during, and after the Jewish World Wars. Even if the Jews weren’t men enough to actually fight, blockades and boycotts are considered causi belli.

    The Jews declared “global war,” prosecuted their economic war, and Germans died.

    In the 20th century they directly and indirectly murdered about ¼ billion Gentiles. So far, they are damn lucky. The Jews got far less than they deserved and still get less than they deserve.

  303. eah says:
    @Colin Wright

    Whether any such responsibility exists depends on one’s intentions.

    Actually, it has nothing to do with ‘intentions’ — instead it’s a bedrock principle of Western jurisprudence, one that’s applied for every other alleged crime: the state must not only show that the crime occurred, it must prove (e.g. to ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’) that the accused is guilty of committing that crime.

    Here’s an exercise for you: look up if anyone has ever been convicted of murder where no corpse was found and autopsied — yet we are supposed to believe the Germans murdered literally millions of Jews, when not a single corpse or body part has ever been introduced as evidence to show such a crime happened, or autopsied to ascertain the cause of death.

    You’re a pseudo-intellectual boob (‘the overwhelming mass of the material’) — you laughably speak of ’emotional preferences’, as if that also does not unfairly describe you, someone who apparently chooses to believe the conventional ‘Holocaust’ story of extermination without any forensic evidence.

    And you should never serve on a jury tasked with determining guilt or innocence (better stated as not proven guilty).

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Troll: Colin Wright
  304. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    You pretend that some gentlemanly ineffectual economic hiccups were all that the Jews managed against a scourge of “antisemitism.”

    In point of fact that JMFs led and funded TWO revolutions during (((World War 1))), the 1918-1919 deadly revolutions of the Bavarian Soviet Republic, led by Jews Kurt Eisner, Eugen Leviné, et al., and the Spartacist Uprising in Berlin, led by Jews Karl Liebknecht, Rosa Luxemburg, et al.

    AND the Germans had seen MILLIONS die at the hands of Jews in their Communist revolutions in Europe. https://judaism.is/perpetrators.html

    Meanwhile Satan’s Chosen have attempted to replace the Sacrifice on Calvary with their Jewish fable as the pivot point of all history.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  305. @Skeptikal

    Al Liguori is seriously mental ill rapid Jew hater, Just look at his posts. He has docked me on his website, and gets pretty personal. He is usually filtered out because his attacks on me contribute nothing to the subject and they are wacky. He is just deranged to the point of being sickening and slightly dangerous.

    Just look at his post #272. All of his photos are fake. He mentions that they were copied from a train wreck in Ohio, with no real evidence ? What train wreck. His photos are cartoons and have no standing in the sane world.

    Actually the first photos he says are doctored are very famous photos with their own Wiki page. The are photos taken from inside the gas chambers to gas chambers, at the crematorium. They were taken by Sonderkomandos ( Jewish workers) shot from the hip sort of hiding so they are blurry, those are the first ones showing the window opening. The rest are blown up. There is one showing nude women running to the gas chambers They have been authenticated, not only that everyone recognizes and knows the wooded area in back of the crematorium. We can challenge information like we are doing, and go back and forth. But his postings are cartoons. Check out the wiki page. pretty interesting.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando_photographs

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    • LOL: Al Liguori
  306. surly says:
    @Colin Wright

    You sound rational and persuasive, but you said nothing with post. You just typed paragraphs of nothing.

  307. @Colin Wright

    The holohoax being real or not, the allies shitscum who fought against the axis are still responsible for the downfall of Europe and the communist take over of half of it.

    Now THAT is one tough pill. The holohoax isn’t even the most gut punching one. Which is why churchill was canned quitely. The negro-sickxon island monkeys realized their sin.

  308. HdC says:
    @Colin Wright

    “…German Jews who managed to evade detection and live out their lives in Nazi Germany unmolested; there were several hundred such…”
    From what I read here recently, there were 7,000 such Jews, who “avoided detection”, living in Berlin throughout the war.
    Using a very rough estimate, if Berlin had 3.5 million people, say 1/20 of the German population, then a very crude estimate would have 20 x 7,000 = 140,000 Jews living in Germany at that time. Since Jews prefer big cities, lets say 100,000 Jews living in Germany during the war.
    To say nothing of the 150,000 Jewish soldiers in the Wehrmacht, according to another author.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  309. @Skeptikal

    Regardless of your opinion about the alleged “Holocaust,” simply tell us this:

    Do you oppose the imprisoning of those who question it?

    You reply, or lack of reply, to that simple question reveals all we need to know about you.

  310. @Al Liguori

    ‘You pretend that some gentlemanly ineffectual economic hiccups were all that the Jews managed against a scourge of “antisemitism.”’

    I’m not pretending any such thing. I’m merely pointing out that ‘Judea declares war on Germany’ doesn’t really make a case for much of anything.

    • Disagree: thotmonger
    • Troll: Petermx
    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  311. @HdC

    ‘From what I read here recently, there were 7,000 such Jews, who “avoided detection”, living in Berlin throughout the war.
    Using a very rough estimate, if Berlin had 3.5 million people, say 1/20 of the German population, then a very crude estimate would have 20 x 7,000 = 140,000 Jews living in Germany at that time. Since Jews prefer big cities, lets say 100,000 Jews living in Germany during the war.’

    Your math overlooks the fact that Jews formed a much larger proportion of the population in Berlin than they formed elsewhere. What would we come up with for the total Jewish population of the United States if we extrapolated from New York City?

    • Replies: @Marcali
  312. @Carolyn Yeager

    ‘Your name, of course. Are you not named Colin Wright? Did you give yourself a false name to pass yourself off as English? If so, why?’

    Don’t be silly. Of course I am ‘English’ — English and Scots, to be precise. I’m also Norwegian (I think), Danish, Prussian, and apparently several other flavors of German.

    I may even be part Jewish. Aha! He admitted it! However, that name passed muster with German customs in 1937, so maybe not.

    However, the ‘Wright’ name supposedly dates from someone who arrived here in 1674, so I’d call that pretty thin grounds for insisting I am ‘English.’ I’m ‘English’ — 1/256th or whatever, to be precise. Why not Prussian? Danish? Lowland Scots (maybe, it’s a bit confused there as well).

    …or Jewish? After all, at least two people here have already exposed me as such.

  313. Skeptikal says:
    @Al Liguori

    I guess this website provides you with an occasional opportunity to spew forth the same ludicrous vomit over and over again. It must be a terrible gut ache.

  314. The Holocaust is a religious myth, literally the founding myth of modern Judaism, what separates it from ancient Judaism, the replacement of Exodus.

    • Agree: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  315. @Colin Wright

    You’re calling me silly?

    You’re being cutesy – and imbecilic. So you’re English and Scot. All the other things you name are further back in your ancestry and do not count for much.

    You need to get off your meds.

    • Troll: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  316. @Colin Wright

    You write:

    Don’t be silly. Of course I am ‘English’ — English and Scots

    You’re about as Anglo-Celtic as Jonathan Greenblatt or this former Goldman Sachs CEO:

    Quit it Shlomo. People like you and Patrick McNally who use Anglo pseudonyms to give the impression that Zio apologists come from all walks aren’t fooling anyone.

    We ALL know who you are and what Talmudic entity you go into bat for.

    • LOL: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  317. @Truth Vigilante

    ‘You’re about as Anglo-Celtic as Jonathan Greenblatt or this former Goldman Sachs CEO:

    Quit it Shlomo. People like you and Patrick McNally who use Anglo pseudonyms to give the impression that Zio apologists come from all walks aren’t fooling anyone.

    We ALL know who you are and what Talmudic entity you go into bat for.’

    Curses. I’m unmasked twice in the same week.

  318. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    …‘Judea declares war on Germany’ doesn’t really make a case for much of anything.…

    The Jews instigated 2 World Wars, multiple European revolutions, disproportionately controlled most European (including German Weimar) media, financial, and professional activity. MILLIONS died from those wars, revolutions, and economic crimes against humanity, yet you pretend “Judea Declared War Against Germany” had no teeth. Go figure.

    What is it then, Colin? Do those multimillions of Gentile lives and deaths mean nothing? Are they all like the rabbis’ “dead flies”? Do only Jewish lives and suffering matter? Have you gone Chabad with Fran? https://judaism.is/chabad.html

    As for Fran Taubman who is worried about “docking” though she freely uses her own name, she has told us everything we need to know about her, including her stereotypically tribal rebuttal of facts with name-calling. I am surprised that she complimented me for being “rapid.” I was an average runner, so never thought of myself as fast, but thanks, Fran. ROFL

  319. Skeptikal says:
    @Ron Unz

    I checked back here to see what nonsense was being spun—it is never anything new.
    Nanu!
    My few comments seem to have hit a nerve in our host himself!!
    Must have been the Circle Jerk comment.
    Should I be flattered that you have helicoptered in to make some silly statements that distort what I have written and what I think?
    If what I think is of any actual interest to you (;-)), you can check back on earlier HD threads, where you will see that I have provided quite a lot of information and have been consistent in insisting that the history of the Third Reich and the run-up to WW2 (and WW1, for that matter) require a lot more study, especially the financial aspects. It is patently obvious that this is a complicated subject. However I will say again that people who set themselves up as experts yet rely only on English sources are not to be taken seriously. Only Americans and Brits are so insulated and hubristic that they think they can get away with this.
    I’ll bet money that you haven’t even read Danuta Czech’s Auschwitz Chronicle.

    RU: “Under these circumstances, *we can freely assume* that every possible bit of significant factual evidence favoring their side has long since been made available in English and blasted out on every electronic media outlet.”

    LOL.

    This “I think we can assume” formula is one of your faves.

    However, only bumptions make assumptions.

    You also seem to be challenged for distinguishing between Holocaust revision and Holocaust denial.

    I do not “avoid the big picture.” On the contrary, it is the deniers at this site that latch on to weird minutiae such as that Oskar Schindler was a fiction or a fantasy.
    Indeed they are looking for very small “pictures” to latch on to.
    They want to see a document signed by Hitler. It is always the same carousel ride.
    They prefer to ignore the vast accretion of evidence from multiple sources, or they cannot access it. (And no, it is not all translated into English or available electronically.) There is always an excuse why genuine evidence doesn’t satisfy their exacting requirements!! Especially if it is in German—that is the automatic cancellation: “You can’t believe anything the Germans say! German Wikipedia ha ha ha! ” And on and on. Of course you can’t trust anything the Poles say. They also have an ax to grind. You can’t trust anything the Americans say, they are all Jews. You can’t trust anything anyone says—except what the deniers say, of course!! This is not a historical debate. This is a playground fight.

    RU: ” how do you explain these curious facts? ”

    I don’t know why you label your rundown of pressures on publishing as “curious.” I guess per you this is the “big picture.” You confuse the history of propaganda with the history of the Third Reich itself. It is quite possible to acknowledge every point made in your lengthy quote regarding the Nuremberg trials and suppression of opposing views after WW2. But that does not suffice to conclude that there was no genocide of Jews and others and that there were no ovens, etc. etc. you know the drill. It is exactly for this reason that we need to study the Third Reich and of course that would be historic revisionism. I challenge you to find a single word of mine in these threads that supports any kind of censorship regarding the study of the Third Reich. You will not find it.

    Your reference to “their side” is childish. Of course the whole topic is so politicized that it may be tempting to fall back on playground terms.
    Of course there is a large party or faction or multiple factions that use the Holocaust narrative for its own purposes. I am in basic agreement with Norman Finkelstein regarding the Holocaust industry. but Finkelstein does not use his takedown and accusation that Zionists use the Holocaust for their own purposes to charge that the whole story is made up. Of course it is extremely difficult to conduct a dispassionate historical debate in a highly propagandized atmosphere. Unfortunately too many commenters here “prove” their Holocaust denial by citing execrable actions and lies of Jews or the State of Israel. A lie about X does not mean that Y never happened.
    To repeat: You, too, seem to be challenged on distinguishing between Holocaust revision and Holocaust denial.

    RU: ” Since you seem quite absorbed in the Holocaust, ”
    Huh? More “quite absorbed” than the crew of ranters or anyone else here?
    I detect snark.

    “The argument that the crucial evidence remains hidden in untranslated Polish or Russian documents that only you have seen is utterly absurd.”

    What is utterly absurd is this statement of yours.
    Of course, you just “glanced” at my comments—didn’t actually read them.

    And, your mention of a “crucial piece of evidence” (I didn’t say this, you did) does not chime with “big picture” thinking. It is evidence of your own tendency toward “little picture” thinking.

  320. Ron Unz says:
    @Skeptikal

    I don’t know why you label your rundown of pressures on publishing as “curious.” I guess per you this is the “big picture.” You confuse the history of propaganda with the history of the Third Reich itself.

    My impression is that you’re an elderly, empty-headed conspiracy-monger, and your vacuous response supports that conclusion.

    What I demonstrated in my long article and the extracted passage is that in the years immediately following WWII, America’s top military leaders and Intelligence officers apparently didn’t believe that any “Jewish Holocaust” had occurred and instead claimed that it was just ridiculous wartime propaganda.

    This position was stated in a massive national bestseller written by an well-regarded academic who had been a top Military Intelligence officer during the war, and although the ADL and other Jewish groups denounced him on numerous other grounds, they never challenged his explicit “Holocaust Denial.”

    As far as I can tell, the Holocaust was only invented many years later, primarily by Hollywood.

    Assuming I’m correct and you’re an elderly individual, you probably spent your entire life firmly believing in the Holocaust nonsense, and am therefore very reluctant to admit you were fooled.

    So you claim that there’s some secret document somewhere in German or Polish that proves your case, and that none of the hundreds or thousands of American Holocaust-activists have ever bothered to translate, even as they published their thousands of Holocaust books.

    People will go to enormous lengths to avoid admitting that they were tricked.

  321. @John Wear

    My response: I am familiar with Dr. Richard J. Green and his work. You can read an article I wrote on this subject at https://inconvenienthistory.com/9/4/5160.

    Yes I read the article and there is nothing new with the Prussian blue (poetry). No new evidence. I have read the same refutation of the Prussian blue science maybe 100 times. What stands our for me is what Dr. Green said about science only works on paper with math. In the physical world science does not always prove out. Holocaust deniers have a pathology and pattern that has been written about that I find to be true of you and others. You have included and written many articles about the character traits of Jews and their pathology. I invite you to look at some of the articles on Holocaust deniers I have included below and see if you recognize yourself. Yes you are not original. All of you repeat the same findings over and over. Prussian blue, fake photos, eyewitness not accurate. etc.

    All of you deniers are not objective. You want the Holocaust to be a hoax so you harbor on minutia, and build a complete base story. You hang all of your findings on small minutia. No Prussian blue no gas chambers, no gas chambers no gassing of the Jews. etc. If you look at the entirely of the Holocaust from 1939 to 1944 you will find enormous irrefutable proof. Truck drivers, train conductors, farmers, neighbors, doctors etc. from many different countries all encountered the same evidence., for years. People witnessed the ghettos liquidated and the Jews transported to camps. Stories emerged from those camps that everyone knew about. Christian countrymen hid Jews at their own risk. News of gassing women and children travels. You think you can keep something like that quiet. Yet for some reason you want to harp on Prussian blue minutia.

    Within the physical world as we know the evidence presented over many years proves the Holocaust, gassing and murdering of Jews did occur. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt that would stand in a court of law.

    BTW I was born July 29,1953.

    https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion

    https://www.museumoftolerance.com/education/teacher-resources/holocaust-resources/what-is-holocaust-denial.html

    https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/holocaust-denial/

    https://www.adl.org/resources/glossary-terms/holocaust-denial

    • Replies: @HdC
  322. @Ron Unz

    What if you come from a family of survivors, who are not prone to trickery or lying. How would like and say they were not in camps for being humiliated. One of your big heroes Israel Shahak, who wrote a book you champion In 1994, Shahak published Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years, which is very critical of Jews and Judaism. He lived thru the Holocaust and was in camps. Did he ever say the Holocaust was a fake? Seems like he would have mentioned that in passing. I really do not understand how you refute people of my age that were raised with survivors who lost their family and they were the only ones to escape. It makes no sense to me. So did Shahak make his history up? Many people have described the selection process when the trains arrived to the Auschwitz and the Jews not selected for work went to the crematorium to never be seen again. There are SS photos documenting this process taken by SS photographers. Was Shahak and his mother tricking us?This has nothing to do with emotions.

    Israel Shahak was born Israel Himmelstaub, in 1933, in Warsaw, Poland, and was the youngest child of a cultured, Zionist family of Ashkenazi Jews.[a][b] During the Second World War, the Nazi occupation of Poland (1939–1945) interned the Shahak family to the Warsaw Ghetto; yet his elder brother escaped from Poland to the United Kingdom, where he joined the Royal Air Force. Life in occupied Poland forced Shahak’s mother to pay a Roman Catholic family to hide Israel, whom they returned when she could not afford their safe-keeping him from the Nazis.

    In 1943, the Nazis sent the Shahak family to the Poniatowa concentration camp, to the west of Lublin, where his father died. Fortuitously, the ten-year-old boy and his mother escaped from the Poniatowa camp, and returned to Warsaw; yet, within a year, whilst emptying the city of Jews, the Nazis recaptured Israel and his mother, and imprisoned them in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, where they survived for 2 years,[4][5] until the camp and its inmates were liberated in 1945 by the British Army. At age 13, in 1946, he re-examined the idea of God’s existence and concluded that evidence for the theory was lacking.[4] As displaced persons, mother and son managed to emigrate to the British Mandate of Palestine.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  323. gregor says:
    @Colin Wright

    “…but they do seem to seize on a few shreds of often trivial or ultimately irrelevant evidence and disregard the overwhelming mass of the material…”

    Hmm, I’m not sure what books you’ve been reading. My experience has been the complete opposite. One thing that has surprised me with this topic is that with the mainstream material, although there is certainly an “overwhelming mass” of it, it deals surprisingly little with the evidence. Virtually all of the Holocaust literature takes the core claims for granted. They do not try to prove that any of it is true and many holocaust specialists like Lipstadt would be deeply offended at the suggestion that they should provide such evidence. The bits of evidence that are cited over and over are primarily testimonies (plus some scattered documents that are interpreted with the a priori constraint that there was a holocaust going on).

    Revisionist literature in contrast has a laser-like focus on evaluating the specific truth claims that have been made. Much of this consists of critiquing the testimonies. I have heard this complaint that the revisionists look too much into the details and are just looking for excuses to disregard the testimonies. Having sampled quite of few of the Nazi “confessions” and survivor memoirs, I do not agree at all. The contradictions and problems in the testimonies are major, not trivial.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  324. @Ron Unz

    ‘…This position was stated in a massive national bestseller written by an well-regarded academic who had been a top Military Intelligence officer during the war…’

    I’m skeptical that Iron Curtain over America was ‘a massive national best seller.’

    Aside from the fact that I’d never heard of it or seen a copy, I checked the list of used copies available at Abe Books. I’ve never heard of any of the publishers.

    • Replies: @surly
    , @gregor
    , @Ron Unz
  325. gregor says:
    @Skeptikal

    “However I will say again that people who set themselves up as experts yet rely only on English sources are not to be taken seriously.”

    The person who has been exaggerating their expertise is you, Mr. Polish Archives.

    The problems with holocaust historiography are not due to a lack of technical expertise. When people call it out they are not claiming to be experts on the Third Reich or archival specialists or any such thing. And the fact that you think that this is being implied reveals your total misunderstanding of the issues at hand.

    You don’t need to be an expert tailor to see that the emperor has no clothes, nor do you need an expensive set of binoculars. You just have to see what is obvious and have the confidence and willingness to break with the consensus. You whine about “circle jerks” but you don’t consider that such a situation might be occurring within the media and academia.

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
  326. @Skeptikal

    “I happened to glance at this thread”

    Now how many times have we seen this? LOL.

  327. John Wear says:

    You write: “Within the physical world as we know the evidence presented over many years proves the Holocaust, gassing and murdering of Jews did occur. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt that would stand in a court of law.”

    My response: Holocaust revisionists have shown that 1) there were no homicidal gas chambers in any of the German concentration camps; 2) Germany did not have a program of genocide against the Jews; and 3) the standard estimate of 6 million Jews who died during World War II is a ridiculous exaggeration.

    Anyone who studied the subject objectively would reach these conclusions. This is why so many countries have made it a felony to dispute the official Holocaust narrative.

    I have read numerous pro-Holocaust books and links similar to the ones you have given me. I don’t need people like Deborah Lipstadt or groups such as the ADL or the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum to tell me what or how to think on the subject. I have studied the subject objectively and am not in the least biased.

    • Agree: HdC, Towey
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @anarchyst
  328. surly says:
    @Colin Wright

    Ron has patiently explained why Iron Curtain didn’t have a mainstream publisher.

    He’s also patiently laid out the reality of total media blackout on everyone that went against the official war narrative of that period, so it shouldn’t surprise you that you never heard of the book.

    But you know all this already.

    Your stated wish is that people not flame you on this topic. You could have your wish if you’d just avoid injecting your passive aggressive takes on posts dealing with the hoax.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  329. @John Wear

    Anyone who studied the subject objectively would reach these conclusions. This is why so many countries have made it a felony to dispute the official Holocaust narrative.

    Correction

    Most of the world many of whom were involved in WW2 or had family members involved in the war a and had studied the evidence have come to the conclusion that the Germans gassed and murdered the Jews because they were Jews. Jews as a mater of racial purity.

    The reason it is a felony to deny the Holocaust is that the agenda of the deniers is not the truth but rather to stoke the Jew hatred that caused the holocaust, in the hopes of starting another.

    It is obvious that Holocaust denial is not a pure subject in its causes and studies, it is specifically tied to Jew hatred. It is a felony because it is a dishonest pursuit. It has a hidden agenda of blaming the Jews not the Germans for the atrocities committed.

    That is a felony, people will not abide by this duplicity and find it a dangerous pursuit with regards to the safety of modern Jewry.

    Eat that and joke. You will never be anything other then two bit writers, being read by yourselves on your own websites.

    Holocaust denial is dead as a valid historical viewpoint. Not because of suppression, but because it is a lie.

  330. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    _I_ am a holocaust™ survivor, Fran! All my living relatives are holocaust™ survivors. Send money! You think you can make your case on people who have never said anything about the narrative? What an addled mind. So (((stereotypical))).

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  331. anarchyst says:
    @John Wear

    In my humble opinion, the only ways to counter this massive historical fraud is by careful analysis of engineering and logistics.
    Germany was an energy-poor country. Despite this being the case, German technical experts developed methods to extract liquid fuels from coal. Even with these advances, transporting millions of individuals to “camps” while keeping the military fueled up for the war effort would have been problematic.
    The logistics of transporting people by rail to camps would have been an enormous burden on the war effort, not to mention providing food, clothing, housing, utilities such as water, sewage disposition and heating systems in the camps.
    From “electric floors” to “masturbation machines”, “jewish soap”, “jewish shrunken heads”, all of these outlandish claims and more can be proven to be impossible.
    Let’s not forget the “gas chambers” which were “(re)created” by the Russians after the summation of WW2 as effective “propaganda pieces” for the future “holocaust™” industry.
    The claimed method of execution using “bug spray” is also laughable. Zyklon B was used as a delousing agent for clothing as the sanitary habits of many camp occupants was unsavory, to say the least. This delousing agent would have been a very poor execution agent. Another claimed execution agent was the use of diesel exhaust which in itself is impossible as well. Diesel exhaust contains almost NO carbon monoxide and would also have been an extremely poor execution agent.
    The present-day exhibits of purported “gas chambers” have no means to exhaust the “gas”, no explosion-proof light fixtures or exhaust fans, just holes in the roofs.
    The crematoria are another aspect of “holocaust™” fabrication that has been propagandized. Claims that camp occupants could tell when jews were being cremated by the smell along with the color of smoke are ridiculous, to say the least. Properly functioning crematoria burn clean, emit no smoke or smell and despite claims by jewish “holocaust™” purveyors, flames are not visible out of crematoria stacks. If crematoria were used to dispatch 6 million bodies, they would have been operating into the 1950s. Let’s not forget the downtime needed to clean the muffles and perform maintenance.
    Germans are excellent engineers, but even they could not refute the laws of physics, despite claims by “holocaust™” industry promoters.
    I have been thrown out (asked to leave) of “holocaust™” museums (actually freak shows) for merely bringing up and pointing out the impossible engineering aspects of this “fraud of the twentieth century”.

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  332. @surly

    Colin stop being so wishy washy. Take a stand. Despite your opinions that I disagree with, you are a normal sane person. You know the Holocaust is true. Just say it. What are you so afraid of.

    The edit button was not working on my last post. I apologize for tons of errors.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @GoySoy
  333. anarchyst says:

    Anne Frank, the “poster child of the holocaust™” is another part of the effective propaganda used to lend credence to the “holocaust™” fable.
    Anne Frank’s cabal was not sent to the camps because they were jews, but were criminal black marketeers and smugglers who got caught.
    Anne Frank perished in a camp while her father was treated in the camp hospital and survived the war. Now, what the hell is a hospital for camp inmates doing in a supposed “death camp”?
    Typhus was rampant due to both the unsanitary habits of camp inmates and the collapse of the infrastructure of the camps due to rail bombings and other attacks on the infrastructure.
    To add insult to injury, Anne Frank’s purported “diary” was partially written with a ball-point pen, not invented till the 1950s. It is no secret that Otto Frank embellished the “diary” to add credence to the story of the “poor little girl who was gassed by the Nazis” not true–Anne Frank died of typhus.

  334. anarchyst says:
    @Al Liguori

    It gets worse…
    Talk about a scam of epic proportions, here is the latest scam thought up by the “holohoax” crowd…
    Follow the shekels…the jewish “holohoax” crowd fears that their “cash cow” is coming to an end that they have come up with another discredited concept to “keep the dream alive” and to “keep the shekels flowing”.
    “Holocaust transference syndrome” is their latest scam-a crackpot idea thought up by two jewish psychologists.
    These jewish psychologists claim that holocaust “memories” are transferred from “holocaust survivors” to children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, other relatives, and even unrelated jewish individuals (but only jewish individuals-not “goyim”)…and that they should be eligible to receive “holocaust” reparations.
    You see, the idea is to have an unlimited, continuing stream of jewish “holocaust survivors” to “keep the dream alive” (and the shekels flowing).
    It is interesting to note that the jewish organizations that handle “holohoax” reparations claims are themselves part of an international jewish criminal cabal that is raking in billions of shekels above and beyond what they are paying out in “claims”.
    The jewish holohoax is on its last breath…rightly so. It is time to put this “hoax of the twentieth century” to death…along with closing the publicly-funded “holocaustianity” museums.

  335. @anarchyst

    I have been thrown out (asked to leave) of “holocaust™” museums (actually freak shows) for merely bringing up and pointing out the impossible engineering aspects of this “fraud of the twentieth century”.

    I question whether that is true. I have spoken freely, asked “improper” questions and openly expressed doubt in every holocaust ‘museum” I’ve been to, including Auschwitz, Birkenau, Dachau and Buchenwald former camp grounds. Even inside the so-called “gas chambers” and crematoriums. I’ve gotten looks and sometimes disagreement but I’ve never been thrown out or even approached by any museum authority or guide. I really don’t see you as such an outspoken person — after all, you’re Canadian. Are you just trying to show off again?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  336. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @anarchyst

    Speaking of “bug spray”…

  337. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “The reason it is a felony to deny the Holocaust is that the agenda of the deniers is not the truth but rather to stoke the Jew hatred that caused the holocaust, in the hopes of starting another.”

    My response: So are you saying that I and other people on this discussion thread are attempting to start another Holocaust? If this is what you are saying, you are making a very unfair and absurd statement.

    You write: “Holocaust denial is dead as a valid historical viewpoint. Not because of suppression, but because it is a lie.”

    My response: I now have 94 articles published by Inconvenient History. You can go to https://inconvenienthistory.com/columnists/2873 to read them. Some of these articles discuss the so-called Holocaust. If you see a mistake in any of my articles, please let me know.

  338. gregor says:
    @Colin Wright

    Bendersky says the book “enjoyed very considerable success” and “went through seventeen printings during the 1950s.” That’s despite not having the support of a major publisher (the reasons for that are pretty obvious).

  339. anarchyst says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    …making assumptions about things that do not “square” with your perceptions. …making more assumptions about someone you do not know. You must be difficult to get along with…
    Canadian??
    Nope, American.
    I was asked nicely to leave as there were others in my tour group who heard me ask the docent about inconsistencies in the “holocaust” fable.
    She was afraid that the “spark of doubt” might infect others in the group. She quietly asked me, rather nicely “Sir, you should leave” She considered the museum to be “hallowed ground”. I respected her wishes and left the facility…
    Yes, jews are fearful of the “seeds of doubt” being planted by questioning the engineering and logistical impossibilities presented by holocaust promoters.

    • Replies: @turtle
    , @Carolyn Yeager
  340. @Fran Taubman

    ‘Colin stop being so wishy washy. Take a stand. Despite your opinions that I disagree with, you are a normal sane person. You know the Holocaust is true. Just say it. What are you so afraid of…’

    I’m afraid of functioning as an agent of censorship. Holocaust deniers should be as free to rant as Zionists; indeed and happily, since they’re not determining my nation’s national policy, I can look on benignly. They really can knock themselves out. It’s like Mormons arguing with Orthodox Jews about posthumous conversion. Have at it; I don’t think it matters — but I certainly don’t want to force either Mormons or Orthodox Jews to abjure their faith.

    I also, while I accept the essential reality of the Holocaust, disagree with both the significance that is attributed to it and the use to which it is put.

    And that, in fact, is my stand. I’ve taken one. It’s the one I’ve always taken.

  341. @gregor

    ‘…One thing that has surprised me with this topic is that with the mainstream material, although there is certainly an “overwhelming mass” of it, it deals surprisingly little with the evidence. Virtually all of the Holocaust literature takes the core claims for granted. They do not try to prove that any of it is true…’

    I see your point here, but it’s also possible that it’s as if I write a guide to Australia and don’t spend a chapter demonstrating it’s there; I take the fact to be unquestionable.

    There are people who have had direct contact with parents, etc, who saw the Holocaust and whose testimony seems unlikely to be false: Norm Finkelstein, for example. I could go on — but the evidence seems to me to be overwhelming. I shan’t cite any, because people will just nitpick anything I offer: the Kornherr Report, the files of the Einsatzgruppen, Himmler’s Posen speech, the innumerable specific Jews and Jewish communities that were there in 1940 but not there in 1945…

    The deniers have got canned answers to all of it — what’s the use?

    If you demanded that I prove Australia was there, I wouldn’t strain my poor little brain trying to prove the truth of that to your satisfaction either. Not if I was reasonably sure you wouldn’t accept the validity of any evidence I might offer.

    All it all demonstrates is that nothing can be proven with absolute, philosophical certainty. Yes, you can deny any possible proposition I might advance. So what?

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  342. turtle says:
    @anarchyst

    She considered the museum to be “hallowed ground”.

    hallowed:
    adjective
    made holy; consecrated.
    “hallowed ground”

    consecrated:
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consecrated#:~:text=Definition%20of%20consecrated,of%20bishop%20newly%20consecrated%20bishops

    IOW, this is a religious, not a historical, venue, which is sacred to adherents of a particular religious dogma.
    Questioning their religious beliefs would make you a skeptic or non-believer, in their eyes.
    Possible synonyms include: heathen, infidel, heretic, blasphemer

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  343. HdC says:
    @Skeptikal

    Hmmm, all that verbiage, and nary one iota of authenticated forensic evidence to support the allegations of holocaustianity.
    Methinks I’m beginning to sound like a broken record.
    But then, we never get anything original or substantive from the holocaustians.

  344. @surly

    ‘…Your stated wish is that people not flame you on this topic. You could have your wish if you’d just avoid injecting your passive aggressive takes on posts dealing with the hoax.’

    Ron stated that the book was ‘a massive best seller.’

    From what I can see, it wasn’t. Why is it wrong for me to point that out?

  345. HdC says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Truth will withstand the most penetrating of inquiries; only lies require the protection of draconian laws to prevail.

    Now then, if you could add some authenticated forensic evidence to your verbiage, that would probably end the debate, don’t you think?

    • Agree: John Wear
    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  346. HdC says:
    @Fran Taubman

    “…Within the physical world as we know the evidence presented over many years proves the Holocaust, gassing and murdering of Jews did occur. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt that would stand in a court of law. ..”.

    Not so in the Zuendel trials in Toronto during the 1980’s. The prosecutor failed to present any forensic evidence to support the allegations of “false news” with which Zuendel was charged.

    The Supreme Court of Canada overturned both convictions of having published “false news”.

    I think that the transcripts of this trial are available on the internet.

    One would think that with the Zuendel trials these issues would have been settled but, with billions of \$\$\$ of blackmail ahem “reparations” at stake, dusting off the same old allegations again and again, is worthwhile financially.

    • Agree: John Wear
  347. @turtle

    ‘…IOW, this is a religious, not a historical, venue, which is sacred to adherents of a particular religious dogma…’

    Indeed — but it’s actually somewhat worse.

    In today’s West, the adherents of other religions are free to go ahead and believe what they like — but they can’t forbid others to disagree. The Mormons can profess to believe in their Golden Tablet and the Muslims can insist God spoke to Mohammed. However, I can differ and they can’t have me silenced.

    The Holocaust is somewhat different. With the Holocaust, it’s becoming as if this is seventeenth century Spain and the Catholic Church can indeed have you silenced — or perhaps more relevantly, as if this is Jerusalem in the year 31 ad, and these Jews will shut you up.

    As I said to Fran, it’s not the reality of the Holocaust I dispute. It’s the use to which it is put. Apparently, that my position isn’t as extreme as possible in all respects is offensive to many.

    • Agree: anarchyst, turtle
    • Replies: @turtle
  348. GoySoy says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Holohoax is real. To expose a scam , look for the weakest part(s) in the narrative.

    [MORE]

    1. Hitler was jewish. Even Russian foreign minister admits this.
    2. Why bother with the transfer agreement if you want to exterminate.
    3. Mathematical impossible.
    4. Eva Braun was jewish.
    5. The controlled opposition; Norman Finkelstein, admitting live his whole family( both mother and father side), were exterminated in camps. He was born 1953
    6. There were many jews in the German army, including high ranking officials.
    7. Most important thing; no need any laws to protect the truth.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  349. @John Wear

    My response: So are you saying that I and other people on this discussion thread are attempting to start another Holocaust? If this is what you are saying, you are making a very unfair and absurd statement.

    Unfair and absurd statement? Are you kidding me. Holocaust denial is not based on the pure historical study of the Holocaust or the War, like a historian would approach the Civil war on the French revolution, to seek out the truth of the events and write about it. No it is based on Jew hatred. The desire to portray the Jews as instigators. A Jewish conspiracy to use victimization as power, and to assign guilt to the Jews for destroying Germany. It is a diabolical charge, and one that leads to the same racial hatred that the National Socialist policies used to prosecute and criminalize Jewry. Jews were thought to be evil and bad for the non Jewish world, That Jews needed to be separated from the non Jewish world, and eliminated from society. You are entitled to your revisionist history John, but not to your utter stupidity and dishonesty in not seeing the harm and fear you cause the Jews and the stoking of racial hatred that can only lead to one thing, the demise of Jews and Jewry.

    Go ahead John let me hear you dance your way around Carto the founder of your cause and his instance on the destruction of Jewry. What a fucking liar you are. Not to come clean on your goals.

    The key to understanding Holocaust denial is the world outlook of the deniers. Denial is inextricably linked with racist, anti-Semitic ideology. The deniers lack academic credentials for the study of the Holocaust.
    The central institution of Holocaust denial in the United States is the Institute for Historical Review (IHR), located in southern California, and founded (with a deceptively scholarly name) by Willis Carto. Carto was previously a founder of the Liberty Lobby, an ultra right-wing and anti-Semitic organization. Other individuals associated with IHR and Holocaust denial are Lewis Brandon, the first director of IHR; Tom Marcellus, his successor as IHR Director; and Mark Weber, editor of the Journal for Historical Review (the IHR journal). Not one of the four has academic credentials relevant to the study of the Holocaust.3

    And then you have the love of Hitler, and his ideology and this from Carto.

    Anti-Semitism is clearly evident in Carto’s thinking. Carto once wrote: “If Satan himself had tried to create a permanent disintegration and force for the destruction of nations, he could have done no better than to create the Jews.”4 In another memo, Carto termed the Jews “public enemy No. 1.”5

    • Replies: @John Wear
  350. @anarchyst

    I still don’t believe you. There is so much bullshitting going on here. Here’s why:

    l. You don’t even say which holocaust museums (plural) you were “kicked out of.”

    I have been thrown out (asked to leave) of “holocaust™” museums

    But when you related the story to us, it was only one museum and such a nice lady, so polite. What was the position of the lady who asked you to leave? I don’t think even the museum director would tell a visitor to leave because of asking a question or pointing out inconsistencies, especially as I’m sure you were being polite yourself, not obnoxious. Nor can the others in a tour demand such a thing, unless you were being abusive. It sounds like a very unusual occurrence.
    Also, why were you taking a tour when you are so knowledgeable?

    2. How many museums was it that this same thing happened to you? Can you name them? Were they in the U.S.?

    3. You wrote in a comment fairly recently that you were located in Canada. I’m not going to try to find it bc you write so many comments. But it struck me so I’ve been under that impression ever since. I’m glad to know otherwise, and from your own mouth.

    • Replies: @GeneralRipper
    , @anarchyst
  351. GeneralRipper [AKA "GKWillie"] says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Carolyn, you should direct your energies towards our real enemies, not to some ego affirming pissing contest.

    anarchyst is not your enemy.

    • Thanks: anarchyst
  352. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    I’m skeptical that Iron Curtain over America was ‘a massive national best seller.’…I’d never heard of it or seen a copy

    Well, Scott McConnell was horrified by the contents of the book and in a public lecture a few years ago said he was shocked when he discovered that it had been the second-biggest conservative bestseller of the 1950s. (Admittedly, I don’t know what that means in total sales.)

    Since Bendersky devoted several pages to discussing it and said it went through 17 printings, I took that as confirmation of McConnell’s claims.

    For obvious reasons it was never reviewed anywhere, which is why I hadn’t heard of it either. It was obviously far too “controversial” for any of the main conservative publishing houses such as Regnery or Devin-Adair.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  353. @John Wear

    My response: I now have 94 articles published by Inconvenient History. You can go to https://inconvenienthistory.com/columnists/2873 to read them. Some of these articles discuss the so-called Holocaust. If you see a mistake in any of my articles, please let me know.

    Mistakes in your articles. LOL. Gladly and here is a big one. Love to see you squirm out of this one. Because by turning it around you have to admit the validity of the crime. That being the Warsaw Ghetto and Stroop.

    In your article titled: Why Hitler Put Jews in Camps and Ghettos

    http://www.wearswar.com/2022/02/11/why-hitler-put-jews-in-camps-and-ghettos/

    You write that the Jews were put in camps and ghettos because the Jews were terrorist and murdering German soldiers especially the women. You sight many examples of the women and the German reaction to them. Problem is and it is a huge one. You have got the cart before the horse. Your entire argument is false.

    The Jews became terrorist after they were put in Ghettoes. The Warsaw walled in 350,000 Jews of which 80,000 survived. Life in the Ghetto was well documented by non Jews, as Polish transit system ran thru the ghetto. There was not enough food. 350,000 Jews crammed into a small few block radius. People were starving in the streets. 35,000 Jews were murdered in the Ghetto.

    The Jews went like lambs to the Ghetto, there was no terrorism prior to the Jews being forcibly being placed in those Ghettos. Are you familiar with life in the Warsaw ghetto? If you had been put in a ghetto you might have become a terrorist your self. The Jews were put into ghettos because they were Jews.

    Less than a week later, German officials ordered the establishment of a Jewish council (Judenrat) under the leadership of a Jewish engineer named Adam Czerniaków. As chairman of the Jewish council, Czerniaków had to administer the soon-to-be established ghetto and to implement German orders. On November 23, 1939, German civilian occupation authorities required Warsaw’s Jews to identify themselves by wearing white armbands with a blue Star of David. View This Term in the Glossary The German authorities closed Jewish schools, confiscated Jewish-owned property, and conscripted Jewish men into forced labor and dissolved prewar Jewish organizations.

    Warsaw GhettoClick here to copy a link to this section
    On October 12, 1940, the Germans decreed the establishment of a ghetto in Warsaw. The decree required all Jewish residents of Warsaw to move into a designated area, which German authorities sealed off from the rest of the city in November 1940. The ghetto was enclosed by a wall that was over 10 feet high, topped with barbed wire, and closely guarded to prevent movement between the ghetto and the rest of Warsaw. The population of the ghetto, increased by Jews compelled to move in from nearby towns, was estimated to be over 400,000 Jews. German authorities forced ghetto residents to live in an area of 1.3 square miles, with an average of 7.2 persons per room.

  354. @Colin Wright

    Yep, it was Gregor who told you yesterday that you were ignorant of Holocaust facts other than the general outline. I agreed with him and now …

    ” the Kornherr Report” – KORHERR REPORT

    “Himmler’s Posen Speech” -HIMMLER’S POSEN SPEECHES’ (two of them)

    “innumerable specific Jews and Jewish communities that were there in 1940 but not there in 1945…” – TRUE THAT ENTIRE SMALL JEWISH COMMUNITIES WERE TRANSPORTED TO CAMPS, BUT ALSO THAT THOSE RESIDENTS DID NOT WANT TO RETURN TO THOSE DUMPS AFTER LIBERATION, BECAME DISPLACED PERSONS AND OPTED TO GO TO THE US, ISRAEL, UK, CANADA, AUSTRALIA AND OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE WEST for a much better life. And on top of it, they received a reparations check every month for life. Oh, the poor things.

    Are these canned answers? Your analogy with Australia is what is canned. Maybe you should explain why you don’t know the items I listed. It’s very sloppy work for such a careful thinker & writer. I, for one, expect better.

  355. @Carolyn Yeager

    ‘You’re being cutesy – and imbecilic. So you’re English and Scot. All the other things you name are further back in your ancestry and do not count for much.’

    I wonder how you came to that conclusion. I said the English ancestor arrived here in 1674. When do you think the Dane and the Prussian did?

  356. @John Wear

    Part 2: The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising :

    You write the following quote from Jurgen Stroop: You conclude with the unbelievable statement that Hitler did not put the Jews in ghettos because he hated Jews but because the Jews were killing Germans. John I think most people even Holocaust deniers who read Mien Kampf would agree that Hitler hated the Jews and put them in ghettos because they were Jews.

    [MORE]

    The lethal nature of the Jewish female assassins caused the Germans to take extreme measures against them. German SS commander Jürgen Stroop wrote:

    Jewish women in the resistance.
    They were not human, perhaps devils or goddesses. Calm. As nimble as circus performers. They often fired simultaneously with pistols in both hands. Fierce in combat, right to the end. Approaching them was dangerous. One captured Haluzzenmädeln looked timid. Completely resigned. And then suddenly, when a group of our men got within a few steps of her, she pulls a hand grenade out from under her skirt or her breeches and slaughters the SS while showering them with curses to the 10th generation—your hair stands on end! We suffered losses in those situations, and so I gave orders not to take girls prisoner, not to let them get too close, but to finish them off with submachine guns from a distance.[8]

    Are you aware that Stroop was responsible for fighting the resistance and the liquidation and burning of the Warsaw Ghetto and the transporting of over 53,000 Jews to their death.? And you say that the Jews were terrorist.

    Do you know the reason for the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising? The Jews started to resist and kill Germans because they new they were being sent to death camps.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising

    In 1939, German authorities began to concentrate Poland’s population of over three million Jews into a number of extremely crowded ghettos located in large Polish cities. The largest of these, the Warsaw Ghetto, collected approximately 300,000–400,000 people into a densely packed, 3.3 km2 central area of Warsaw. Thousands of Jews died due to rampant disease and starvation under SS-und-Polizeiführer Odilo Globocnik and SS-Standartenführer Ludwig Hahn, even before the mass deportations from the ghetto to the Treblinka extermination camp began.

    The SS conducted many of the deportations during the operation code-named Grossaktion Warschau, between 23 July and 21 September 1942. Just before the operation began, the German “Resettlement Commissioner” SS-Sturmbannführer Hermann Höfle called a meeting of the Ghetto Jewish Council Judenrat and informed its leader, Adam Czerniaków, that he would require 7,000 Jews a day[7] for the “resettlement to the East”.[8][9] Czerniaków committed suicide once he became aware of the true goal of the “resettlement” plan. Approximately 254,000–300,000 ghetto residents died at Treblinka (most murdered outright) during the two-month-long operation. The Grossaktion was directed by SS-Oberführer Ferdinand von Sammern-Frankenegg, the SS and police commander of the Warsaw area since 1941.[10]

    He was relieved of duty by SS-und-Polizeiführer Jürgen Stroop, sent to Warsaw by Heinrich Himmler on 17 April 1943.[11][12] Stroop took over from von Sammern-Frankenegg following the failure of the latter to pacify the ghetto resistance.[13]

    When the deportations first began, members of the Jewish resistance movement met and decided not to fight the SS directives, believing that the Jews were being sent to labour camps and not to their deaths.[citation needed] But by the end of 1942, ghetto inhabitants learned that the deportations were part of an extermination process. Many of the remaining Jews decided to revolt.[14] The first armed resistance in the ghetto occurred in January 1943.[15]

    On 19 April 1943, Passover eve, the Germans entered the ghetto. The remaining Jews knew that the Germans would murder them and they decided to resist to the last.[16] While the uprising was underway, the Bermuda Conference was held by the Allies from 19 to 29 April 1943 to discuss the Jewish refugee problem.[17] Discussions included the question of Jewish refugees who had been liberated by Allied forces and those who still remained within German-occupied Europe.[18]

    Do you deny thesis facts? The Jews were put into Ghettos because they were Jews not because they were terrorist.

    And you end with the following most incredulous paragraph of falseness and lies I have ever read. In the face of records by the Germans and the Poles and the Polish resistance who smuggled guns into the Ghetto.

    It is this author’s opinion that Judy Batalion had never heard of the extensive involvement of Jewish women in resistance efforts against Germany because such involvement has intentionally been kept quiet. If the extensive murderous female participation in these resistance organizations was widely known, then people would understand why Hitler interned Jews in camps and ghettos. Jews were not interned because Hitler hated Jews. Rather, Jews were interned in camps and ghettoes because Jewish civilians, both male and female, posed a serious threat to German military operations during World War II.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  357. turtle says:
    @Colin Wright

    as if this is seventeenth century Spain and the Catholic Church can indeed have you silenced

    Indeed, and not only on this issue, either. The “Branch Covidians,” as I call them, or the “climate change” crazies exhibit similar behaviour, as far as I can tell.

    To wit, they have reached a conclusion, however arrived at, on an issue in which they are heavily invested emotionally, believe they are correct, and will brook no dissent.

    And then we have official, or semi-official, figures pretending they have both the authority and the duty to dictate what we must think, the latest manifestation of which being the odious enterprise of one Alejandro Mayorkas and his airhead female toady. The very existence of the HSD (der Heimatsicherheitsdienst) is a foreign body, a cancer upon our society, and should be eliminated, schnell.

    Achtung, Herr Mayorkas!
    Du bist nicht mein Führer.

    https://www.corvus-rising.net/blog/about/

    In my view, the society in which we find ourselves today is one which
    has swung entirely too far in the opposite direction, one in which the
    denial of objective reality is all too common, in which individuals
    assert that all opinions are equally valid, in which the principles of
    logic are denigrated as “racist,” and the concept of scientific
    investigation which may, and must always be, be tested against objective reality, is perverted into the enshrinement of dogma clothed in the counterfeit vestments of “The Science,” which is treated as unerring, received Truth by those incapable of critical thought.

    It is as if the whole of Western civilization, starting with the Enlightenment, has been flushed down the drain, in less than 100 years.

  358. anarchyst says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Believe or disbelieve what you want.
    It’s YOUR problem, not mine.
    I take these tours expressly for pointing out the inconsistencies of holocaust claims and do attempt to “educate” other visitors. THAT is something the jews who run these holocaust synagogues don’t like. If I can plant the seeds of doubt into one person (visitor), I consider my time and effort in doing so as being worthwhile.
    What are YOU doing to further the TRUTH about the holocaust?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  359. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @GoySoy

    Holohoax is real. To expose a scam , look for the weakest part(s) in the narrative.
    1. Hitler was jewish. Even Russian foreign minister admits this.
    2. Why bother with the transfer agreement if you want to exterminate.
    3. Mathematical impossible.
    4. Eva Braun was jewish.
    5. The controlled opposition; Norman Finkelstein, admitting live his whole family( both mother and father side), were exterminated in camps. He was born 1953
    6. There were many jews in the German army, including high ranking officials.
    7. Most important thing; no need any laws to protect the truth.

    So succinct. So true. The (((narrative))) is so transparently a lie that it and its hucksters should only be ridiculed. In their 20th century wars, revolutions, and economic crimes against humanity, the Jews killed ¼ BILLION people. Some Jews died in the wars and revolutions they started. That is expected, totally unremarkable. Some might say it is “just desserts.”

  360. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “What a fucking liar you are. Not to come clean on your goals.”

    My response: I am not a liar. My goal is the truth.

    You write: “The deniers lack academic credentials for the study of the Holocaust.”

    My response: Dr. Arthur Butz has a PhD in engineering. Germar Rudolf would have a PhD in chemistry except for Germany’s discriminatory laws. The late Dr. Robert Faurisson had a PhD in French literature. Both Harry Elmer Barnes and David Hoggan had PhDs in history from Ivy League universities. I think all of these Holocaust revisionists have academic qualifications.

    You write: “The central institution of Holocaust denial in the United States is the Institute for Historical Review (IHR), located in southern California, and founded (with a deceptively scholarly name) by Willis Carto.”

    My response: The Institute for Historical Review (IHR) currently, to the best of my knowledge, only consists of Mark Weber. Mark Weber has a Masters degree in European history. The IHR has little relevance to most Holocaust revisionists today.

    You write: “And then you have the love of Hitler, and his ideology and this from Carto.”

    My response: I don’t claim to fully understand Hitler. He is certainly not my idol or hero.

    Fran, if you want to continue discussions with me on this thread, please make an effort to be more civil. Like I said, I have 94 articles on Inconvenient History located at https://inconvenienthistory.com/columnists/2873. If you find any mistakes in my articles, please let me know about them.

  361. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “You conclude with the unbelievable statement that Hitler did not put the Jews in ghettos because he hated Jews but because the Jews were killing Germans. John I think most people even Holocaust deniers who read Mien Kampf would agree that Hitler hated the Jews and put them in ghettos because they were Jews.”

    My response: It is certainly true that Hitler had wanted to kick Jews out of Germany before World War II began. Hitler had wanted Germany to be free of Jews.

    Once the war started, Hitler sent Jews to concentration camps and ghettos so that they would not participate in the war effort against Germany.

    As documented in my article, in addition to Jewish women who were killing German soldiers, numerous Jewish partisans in the Soviet Union and many European countries were actively fighting and killing German soldiers. Hitler put them in camps and ghettos so that they would not participate in the war effort against Germany.

    The United States interned approximately 120,000 Japanese American civilians in camps during the war even though these Japanese civilians were not engaged in fighting American soldiers. In my opinion, Hitler had more reason to intern Jewish civilians that we Americans had to intern Japanese American civilians.

    • Agree: HdC, Towey
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  362. Once the war started, Hitler sent Jews to concentration camps and ghettos so that they would not participate in the war effort against Germany.

    Do you have any documentation to back up that statement.

    This is just patently untrue. Hitler set up racial criteria for a pure race. The Jews were considered impure and had to purged from matting with Aryans. It is incredulous that you claim to be a historian after the truth. You are just missing more than a half a loaf.

    Are familiar with the racial purity laws of Hitler’s Germany. The confiscation of land, jobs, and putting Jews in Ghettos with very overcrowded and poor conditions?

    When Ghettos were liquidated either by transporting to death camps, or the SS coming to the Ghettos and shooting the entire Ghetto killing up to 20,000 in one day. The Jews that escaped went into the forest and created a credible resistance teaming up with the soviets. There are many stories.

    For you to not recognize the brutality of the Germans towards the Jews makes you not credible.

    I apologize for being disrespectful. But when saying that Holocaust denial is not based on Jew hatred, well that is just a lie. Read Carolyn Yaeger and other people involved in your movement.
    They are all all Jew haters wanting revenge.

    You just will not own up to your shenanigans.

    Were you aware of Stroops statement was referring specifically to the Warsaw Ghetto resistance?
    Are you aware of what life was like in the Warsaw ghetto?
    Are you aware that 6000 people a day were transported to Triblinka, to their deaths, and that word of this reached the Polish resistance?
    Were you aware that Stroop burned the entire ghetto down”

    John are you aware that the Jews were rounded up like cattle and treated as non humans because the were Jews. Have you read any of the German doctrines regarding the Third Reich’s few of racial purity and the Jews.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  363. @John Wear

    See this documentary about the Bielski Brothers resistance in the woods. They Germans shot their family and they formed a resistance.

    John they formed the resistance after they were being murdered.

    After they were being murdered. They were not

    Once the war started, Hitler sent Jews to concentration camps and ghettos so that they would not participate in the war effort against Germany.

    You have no documentation to state this. Thousands of pages of documents about Jews in Ghettos that were eventually liquidated and murdered.

    There is a film called Defiance with Daniel Craig. Learn about the Jewish resistance.

    This is false history. Not revisionism. False

  364. PolPhil says:

    The Holocaust tale is both the foundation and the myth of the late 20th century/21st century for the Habiru and their solidification of power over the whole of the Earth. Before that they were powerful but a variety constraints limited them–that is no longer the case with the hoax they created and use to club all opposition. Sad.

    • Replies: @Bookish1
  365. gregor says:
    @Colin Wright

    “There are people who have had direct contact with parents, etc, who saw the Holocaust and whose testimony seems unlikely to be false”

    It’s always a bait-and-switch though. If I may very roughly paraphrase Faurisson: Someone says they were in a concentration camp and shows you their tattoo. Ok, but that’s not what we’re interested in. Or they say they saw a “selection” but they don’t actually know what happened to the “selected” people which is the point of interest. It’s like if you tell me you just caught a hundred pound fish and I ask to see the fish and then you try to show me a fishing boat. That’s how it works. They show you a shower and tell you you’re seeing a gas chamber.

    “All it all demonstrates is that nothing can be proven with absolute, philosophical certainty.”

    Holocaust revisionism isn’t really about any sort of abstract philosophical deconstruction. It’s actually very concrete and straightforward, unlike the mysticism of the Holocaust. All the revisionists do is fact-check the claims.

    • Agree: HdC, John Wear
    • Replies: @Orville H. Larson
  366. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I write: “Once the war started, Hitler sent Jews to concentration camps and ghettos so that they would not participate in the war effort against Germany.” You then write: “Do you have any documentation to back up that statement.”

    My response: There are numerous books that document that Jews were waging war against German soldiers. These books include:

    1. Batalion, Judy, The Light of Days: The Untold Story of Women Resistance Fighters in Hitler’s Ghettos, New York: Harper Collins Publishers, 2020.

    2. Shepherd, Ben, War in the Wild East: The German Army and Soviet Partisans, Cambridge, Mass. and London: Harvard University Press, 2004, pp. 77-78.

    3. De Zayas, Alfred M., The Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau, 1939-1945, Lincoln, Neb.: University of Nebraska Press, 1989, p. 106.

    4. Mazower, Mark, Hitler’s Empire: How the Nazis Ruled Europe, New York: The Penguin Press, 2008, pp. 490-491.

    Since Jews and Jewish partisan groups were waging war against Germany, Hitler sent many Jews to ghettos and concentration camps.

    You write: “When Ghettos were liquidated either by transporting to death camps, or the SS coming to the Ghettos and shooting the entire Ghetto killing up to 20,000 in one day.”

    My response: The SS never killed up to 20,000 Jews in one day at any ghetto. Your statement is total nonsense.

    You write: “I apologize for being disrespectful. But when saying that Holocaust denial is not based on Jew hatred, well that is just a lie.”

    My response: Holocaust revisionism is not based on Jew hatred. Anyone who studied the subject objectively would realize that 1) there were no homicidal gas chambers in any of the German concentration camps; 2) Germany did not have a program of genocide against the Jews; and 3) the standard estimate of 6 million Jews who died during World War II is a ridiculous exaggeration.

    You write: “John are you aware that the Jews were rounded up like cattle and treated as non humans because the were Jews.”

    My response: Are you aware that the Allies, led by the United States of America, intentionally mass murdered approximately 9 million Germans after the war? If not, you can read Chapters Five, Six and Seven of my book “Germany’s War” on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Thanks: Al Liguori
  367. HdC says:
    @Fran Taubman

    What part of “Judea Declares War on Germany” in 1933 don’t you understand?
    The assertion is “Judea”; not American, or Polish, or Soviet, or for that matter, German, Jews.
    The assertion is “Judea”, ie. all Jews world wide declared war on Germany.

    Can you point out to any newspaper stories that assert, at that time, to the effect: “Ahem, we Jews disagree with your declaration of war on Germany, so please count us out.”

    Of course Germany fought back.

    It takes serious gall for the declarers of war, such as Judea, France, Britain, USA defacto, to whine and moan afterwards about the high price they had to pay for their declarations of war.

    • Agree: John Wear, anarchyst
    • Thanks: Al Liguori
  368. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    The Jews’ “Torah” encourages deceit, so Fran deceives. http://judaism.is/torah-encourages-lies.html Chabad, Fran’s Hasidic sect, encourages deceit, so Fran deceives. https://judaism.is/chabad.html It’s Jews like Fran who day by day make it increasingly harder to believe “not all Jews.” Fran is salient evidence of “every single time.”

    “Miracle at Auschwitz. The Talmud is magic. It transforms water to gas and gas to gold”

  369. @anarchyst

    What are YOU doing to further the TRUTH about the holocaust?

    Ha!

    You poor schmuck. You won’t tell us what museums you were kicked out of. You won’t answer my reasonable questions. You couldn’t have forgetten which place it was you were asked to leave. You’re not protecting these holo museums. You’re not protecting the jews who run them. So what are you protecting?!

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  370. anarchyst says:

    Since “judea” (world jewry) declared war on Germany in 1933, that particular declaration of war made jews worldwide “fair game”.
    As judaism is an insular society regardless of political or country affiliation, all jews worldwide were responsible for this declaration of war.
    Were there any jews or jewish groups who publicly declared opposition to this declaration of war against Germany? I’ll bet not.
    Let’s not forget the vile tome: “Germany Must Perish” by Theodore N. Kaufman. This vile tome added fuel to the fire against jews and judaism in general by advocating the extreme, total genocide of the German race, culture and society. Sure sounds like Talmudic punishment to me…

    • Replies: @geokat62
  371. @Ron Unz

    ‘I’m skeptical that Iron Curtain over America was ‘a massive national best seller.’…I’d never heard of it or seen a copy’

    ‘Well, Scott McConnell was horrified by the contents of the book and in a public lecture a few years ago said he was shocked when he discovered that it had been the second-biggest conservative bestseller of the 1950s. (Admittedly, I don’t know what that means in total sales.)…”

    I also checked the New York Times non-fiction best seller lists for the end of the year in 1951, the end of June in 1952, and the end of the year in 1952.

    The book wasn’t mentioned. You may have acquired the impression it was a ‘massive national best seller’ — I doubt if you intentionally misrepresented the facts. However, I don’t think it was — and as I’ve previously argued, I also don’t think the authenticity of the Holocaust was widely doubted at any point after 1945.

    It wasn’t assigned the significance it’s assumed over the last fifty years — but that’s a different matter. When it came to the facts of the case, I’d say the situation in the decades immediately after the war was much as it is now; there were a few iconoclasts and skeptics doubting the Holocaust, but the reality of it was generally accepted. People just didn’t care as much. It was a past event that was part of the general horror of the Second World War…and?

    I’m not on completely firm ground here — largely, I’m basing my assertions on the contents of my father’s library of books on the Second World War that dated from the Fifties and early Sixties — however, such is my impression, and what evidence I’ve turned up seems to support that.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  372. @John Wear

    Since Jews and Jewish partisan groups were waging war against Germany, Hitler sent many Jews to ghettos and concentration camps.

    Lets stick to one subject one contention at a time. Do not lose track with this and that. Partisan Jews were waging war how against the Germans. They had no weapons and no standing army.

    1. Batalion, Judy, The Light of Days: The Untold Story of Women Resistance Fighters in Hitler’s Ghettos, New York: Harper Collins Publishers, 2020.

    I glanced at this book and looked at the others. The point I am making and one that you have scuttled around. No one is denying Jewish resistance. No one. As you can see there are books.

    This is a chicken and egg scenario.

    The source of contention is that the resistance came after stripping the Jews of their property, jobs, ability to earn and income or immigrate. They were rounded up and made to wear Jewish stars cloistered in a ghetto, knowing they were marked for death. Why did Jewish parents pay Catholics to hide their children. Or risk their lives trying to escape or trade everything they owned to leave
    Germany? The Germans were killing Jews.

    They resisted. The Jews resisted

    Your version that the Jews were resisting the Germans, therefor the Germans rounded them up and internet them.

    Please show the documentation from the German documentation stating that the Jews posed a threat to the homeland and needed to be interned and put into Ghettos. Specific documentation from the Germans specifying that they viewed the Jews as dangerous. Are you familiar with Kristallnacht?

    On November 9 to November 10, 1938, in an incident known as “Kristallnacht”, Nazis in Germany torched synagogues, vandalized Jewish homes, schools and businesses and killed close to 100 Jews. In the aftermath of Kristallnacht, also called the “Night of Broken Glass,” some 30,000 Jewish men were arrested and sent to Nazi concentration camps. German Jews had been subjected to repressive policies since 1933, when Nazi Party leader Adolf Hitler (1889-1945) became chancellor of Germany. However, prior to Kristallnacht, these Nazi policies had been primarily nonviolent. After Kristallnacht, conditions for German Jews grew increasingly worse. During World War II (1939-45), Hitler and the Nazis implemented their so-called “Final Solution” to the what they referred to as the “Jewish problem,” and carried out the systematic murder of some 6 million European Jews in what came to be known as the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @John Wear
    , @Al Liguori
  373. @John Wear

    You write: “When Ghettos were liquidated either by transporting to death camps, or the SS coming to the Ghettos and shooting the entire Ghetto killing up to 20,000 in one day.”

    My response: The SS never killed up to 20,000 Jews in one day at any ghetto. Your statement is total nonsense.

    Are you familiar with the Rovno Ghetto? Very well documented. Just the facts John. Just the facts

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rovno_Ghetto

    The Rovno Ghetto (also: Równe or Rivne Ghetto, Yiddish: ראָװנע)[1][2][a] was a World War II Nazi ghetto established in December 1941 in the city of Rovno, western Ukraine, in the territory of German-administered Reichskommissariat Ukraine. On 6 November 1941, about 21,000 Jews were massacred by Einsatzgruppe C and their Ukrainian collaborators. The remaining Jews were imprisoned in the ghetto. In July 1942, all remaining 5,000 Jews were trucked to a stone quarry near Kostopol and murdered there.[1][3]

    The ghetto was liquidated on July 13, 1942. Only a handful of Jews managed to escape deportation

    destruction of the Jewish people of Rovno occurred in three phases.[1]

    About 3,000-4,000 Jews were killed in July and August. On 9 and 12 July 1941, the Einsatzkommando 4A of Einsatzgruppe C, a death squad, shot 240 Jews; in the official German report, the victims were dubbed ‘Bolshevik agents’ and ‘Jewish functionaries’. On August 6, Order Police battalions conducted a second campaign in Rovno, in the course of which about 300 Jews were shot.
    The most bloody shooting took place on November 6–7, 1941, where 15,000-18,000 adult Jews were killed. The operation was led by the Commander of the Order Police led by Otto von Oelhafen[1] with the assistance of Ukrainian Auxiliary Police and members of the OUN in the Sosenki forest near Rovno (‘Sosenki’ which means ‘Little Pine Trees’ in Polish). Jews were shot by Police Battalion 320 in coordination with the Einsatzgruppe 5th Division.[9] 6,000 children had their neck broken or were buried alive under others victims at a killing site close to the adult one.[1]
    The ghetto was liquidated in July 1942. On the night of July 13, 1942 at 22:00, the liquidation of the ghetto was carried out when a “shared” division of the SS and Ukrainian police units surrounded the ghetto, positioned spotlights around it and turned them on. Brigade SS and Ukrainian police were divided into small groups, broke into houses and pushed the people out, herded them into a freight train which took them to Kostopol (or Prokhurov) where they were shot to death in small Aktionen.[1] 5,000 Jews were killed in this manner.[2][10] Several Aktionen took place in the neighbourhood afterwards.[1]
    The ghetto was declared “Judenrein” end July by the Reichskommissar Eric Koch.[1]

    The remaining 5,000 Jews who possessed skills which enabled them to hold professions that were deemed essential to the administration of the occupation were taken away from their families and placed in the ghetto.[citation needed]

    It is estimated that 22,000-23,000 Jews were killed in Rovno.[3]

    On February 2, 1944 Rivne was liberated from German troops by Soviet troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front during the Rovno-Lutsk operation.[11]

  374. @Fran Taubman

    Fran, I’ve been reading your comments and have refrained from entering the discussion because John Wear and knowledgeable commenters like Anarchyst speak for me.

    Your foul-mouthed behaviour in responding to the gentlemanly John Wear is disgraceful.
    He’s answered/refuted all that you’ve asked and more. Yet you stick to your indefensible Zio narrative.

    At the end of the day, ALL of your Zio funded mythology written by imaginative and unscrupulous fiction peddlers is not worth a hill of beans.

    You Fran, are not fit to polish John Wear’s boots.

    I’ve had exchanges with you in a previous thread when responding to your tired ‘Where are the missing Jews’ question, which you’ve trotted out in this thread once more.

    For the benefit of those that haven’t seen my previous remark, here it is [summarised] once again:

    To the extent that many Jews were killed in the eastern territories during WWII and their names were not documented, they were overwhelmingly killed by the citizenry of Ukraine, and those in the Baltic countries (Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia), as retribution for the suffering inflicted under Jewish commissars and such during the previous decade and more under Judeo-Bolshevik rule.

    This is especially relevant as it relates to the Holodomor and vengeance was meted out on that Talmudic subset of their societies that were responsible.

    In other words. the bulk of Jews that were summarily executed and beaten to death on the Eastern front were NOT KILLED BY THE GERMANS.

    Bottom Line: Fran, you know next to NOTHING about ANYTHING.

    The sum total of your knowledge comes courtesy of the MSM, Elie Wiesel authored proven lies and the narratives dictated by rabid neocons, whether that be on the 9/11 False Flag (where you’re absolutely clueless), the murder of JFK, RFK etc, propagation of the Holohoax myth, the control of the western financial system by the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel or whatever.

    A malevolent subset of Jewry are behind all these egregious acts/financial exploitation and said individual responsible should be apprehended and prosecuted.
    This is NOT a reflection of Jewry in general.

    But, to the extent that useful idiots exist like you Fran, those that will come to the defence of all manner of Zio criminals (just as you would no doubt have done over a hundred years ago to defend the vile Leo Frank had you been alive) , YOUR ACTIONS and those of other Zio apologists are contributing to the building discontent against Jewry as a collective.

    If ever there is another pogrom of Jews in the future, people like YOU Fran will have blood on your hands.

    • Agree: HdC, Orville H. Larson
    • Thanks: John Wear
  375. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    38% of inhabitants of Warsaw spoke Yiddish as their first language in the 1920s, an almost infallible marker that they were Jews. Almost none left by the late 1940s though some of those who remained worked in the Communist security police. A statistic in a book by Poland specialist Norman Davies has 12% of Communist security police in Poland being Jews in the late 1940s, and that this was seriously disproportionate to their proportion in Polish society by then. True. But what happened to that huge pre-war Jewish community? Where did they all go? No doubt some were refugees post-war and left Poland but occupation of Poland by Nazi Germany is the elephant in the room here. Something gigantic happened to Polish Jews in that intervening time.
    Obviously I agree with you. The Holocaust as it is termed did happen.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  376. geokat62 says:
    @anarchyst

    Let’s not forget the vile tome: Germany Must Perish by Theodore N. Kaufman.

    I think it’s extremely important to note the date on which this “vile tome” was published. It was February 28, 1941.

    From wiki:

    Germany Must Perish! is a 104-page book written by Theodore N. Kaufman, which he self-published in 1941 in the United States. The book advocated the sterilization of all Germans and the territorial dismemberment of Germany, believing that this would achieve world peace.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_Must_Perish!

    Not only did Judea declare war on Germany in 1933, it declared a total war of extermination in the midst of that war.

    • Agree: John Wear
  377. @HeebHunter

    “Should we all just shut up then? Abandon hope of justice and truth?”

    No. But I got the impression that you were writing as if their demise was just around the corner and that’s far from the truth. Even people who don’t deny their overrepresentation at the top of society tell me that they got there through hard work, talent, intelligence. Now I wouldn’t complain about that if they were a force for good but they obviously aren’t.

    It is the West that they control, and the international organisations that are agents of the West. I think their comeuppance will have to come from the East and South. Maybe an army will be raised … one day.

  378. @Wielgus

    There were no communist parties inside Poland in the 1940’s not till after the war. At the start of the war with Poland there were 3 million Polish Jews. At the end of the war a few 100,000.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  379. >folks here still think there is any kind of productive discussion and Holohoax Myth Busting going on with yid taubman, kike wielgus and heeb colin

    Kike modus operandi 101: when all else fail on a forum, make as much noise and distraction as possible.

    The kikes are a very feminine race.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  380. geokat62 says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    This is NOT a reflection of Jewry in general.

    Ask Fran if she truly believes this? It wasn’t a malevolent subset of Jewry that were behind those egregious acts, it was the leadership of Jewry who undertook them with the full endorsement of the community, whether explicit or implicit. The community endorsed these acts because they were convinced that their leadership undertook them after duly conducting a proper assessment to determine whether it was “good for the Jews.”

    This is how a community behaves, as a collective, not as individuals.

    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  381. Ron Unz says:
    @Colin Wright

    I also checked the New York Times non-fiction best seller lists for the end of the year in 1951, the end of June in 1952, and the end of the year in 1952.

    The book wasn’t mentioned.

    I’m just passing along my information. Assuming it was the #2 conservative bestseller of the 1950s, with 17 printings, that sounds like a huge seller to me.

    According to Bendersky’s account, sales were minimal at first, until Jewish groups denounced it, leading to endorsements by all those top generals. So maybe it shows up in later NYT lists.

    Or maybe not. The NYT lists are based on sales in various bookstores, mostly in the Northeast, and probably none of them even stocked it.

    Here’s an analogy. Supposedly, it only takes 40,000 sales to get on the list, but although the Turner Diaries sold something like 400,000 copies, it never appeared, since the sales were mostly at gun-shows and such, making it an underground bestseller.

    Similarly, Kennedy’s recent Fauci book spent weeks as the #1 Amazon bestseller, selling well over a million copies, but only barely and briefly touched the NYT list since Amazon sales don’t count.

    I don’t have a clue how many sales the Beaty book had, but I have no reason to doubt the claim that it was the #2 conservative bestseller of the 1950s unless you can find persuasive evidence otherwise.

  382. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You ask: “Are you familiar with Kristallnacht?”

    My response: Yes, I am familiar with Kristallnacht. The following is what I wrote about it on page 124 of my book “Germany’s War”:

    “Public opinion in the Western democracies soon took a hard turn against Germany. On the night of Nov. 9-10, 1938, National Socialist storm troopers went on a rampage, looting Jewish shops, smashing windows, burning synagogues, and beating Jews. Hundreds were assaulted and dozens perished in what came to be known as Kristallnacht, the night of broken glass. The United States soon called its German ambassador home. Much of the goodwill garnered by Germany from the 1936 Berlin Olympics and the Munich Agreement, which the democracies still believed had averted war, was washed away by Kristallnacht.”

    You write: “Please show the documentation from the German documentation stating that the Jews posed a threat to the homeland and needed to be interned and put into Ghettos. Specific documentation from the Germans specifying that they viewed the Jews as dangerous.”

    My response: The first four chapters of my book “Germany’s War” document that the primary aggressors in World War II were the Soviet Union, the United States and Great Britain. You can read these four chapters on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

    Adolf Hitler and other National Socialists claimed that these three countries were controlled by the forces of international Jewry. I think they are correct in their contention.

    In the case of the Soviet Union, you can read my article at http://www.wearswar.com/2022/04/29/jewish-involvement-in-the-bolshevik-revolution/ documenting the heavy Jewish involvement in Communism and the Bolshevik Revolution.

    In the case of the United States, I write on page 471 of my book “Germany’s War”:

    “Jewish historian Lucy Dawidowicz noted, “Roosevelt himself brought into his immediate circle more Jews than any other President before or after him.” A partial list of Jews surrounding Roosevelt include: Bernard Baruch, Felix Frankfurter, David E. Lilienthal, David Niles, Louis Brandeis, Samuel I. Rosenman, Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Benjamin V. Cohen, Rabbi Stephen Wise, Francis Perkins, Sidney Hillman, Herbert H. Lehman, Jesse I. Straus, Harold J. Laski, Charles E. Wyzanski, Samuel Untermyer, Edward Filene, David Dubinsky, Mordecai Ezekiel, Abe Fortas, Harold Ickes, Isador Lubin, Harry Dexter White (Weiss), David Weintraub, Nathan G. Silvermaster, Harold Glasser, Irving Kaplan, Solomon Adler, Benjamin Cardozo, Anna Rosenberg, and numerous others, almost to the exclusion of Gentile advisers. As a consequence, Roosevelt was surrounded by a milieu of Jewish hate and hostility toward Germany.”

    In the case of Great Britain, I write on page 470 of my book “Germany’s War”:

    “German economic success was a major reason why Jewish leaders used Winston Churchill to agitate for war against Germany. Churchill was financially supported by the anti-German group The Focus, whose membership included mostly wealthy British and American Jews. Gen. Robert E. Wood stated at a Senate committee that Churchill had said to him in November 1936, ‘Germany is getting too strong, and we must smash her.’ Churchill also stated in the year 1936, ‘We will force Hitler into war, whether he wants it or not.’ Churchill was an exceptional orator and writer, and he was an effective agent in stirring up British public opinion against Germany.”

    If you want documentation from a strictly German source stating that Jews posed a threat to Germany, the following is an excerpt from Adolf Hitler’s speech made on December 11, 1941, declaring war on the United States:

    “The circle of Jews around Roosevelt encouraged him [to divert attention to foreign policy]. With Old Testament vindictiveness they regarded the United States as the instrument which they and he could use to prepare a second Purim against the nations of Europe, which were increasingly anti-Jewish. So it was that the Jews, in all of their satanic baseness, gathered around this man, and he relied on them….

    We know the power behind Roosevelt. It is the same eternal Jew that believes that his hour has come to impose the same fate on us that we have all seen and experienced with horror in Soviet Russia. We have gotten to know the Jewish paradise on earth first hand. Millions of German soldiers have personally seen the land where this international Jewry has destroyed and annihilated people and property. Perhaps the President of the United States does not understand this. If so, that only speaks for his intellectual narrow-mindedness.”

    So, Hitler and other National Socialist leaders believed that the forces of international Jewry had started World War II and posed a major threat to Germany. Jews were interned in camps and ghettos so that they would not participate in the war effort against Germany.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Thanks: turtle, Towey, Mefobills
  383. geokat62 says:
    @John Wear

    We have gotten to know the Jewish paradise on earth first hand.

    Jewish paradise = Tikkun olam = Goyim hell

  384. Wielgus says:
    @Fran Taubman

    There was an illegal one. In the graphic novel Maus Vladek Spiegelman’s girl friend, later wife Anja seems to have been a sympathiser for a time. She is given confidential documents of the Communists to look after before the war, and is told over the phone by them that the police are looking for the documents but she should not destroy them. In a panic, she gives them to a seamstress neighbour but the Polish police search the latter’s apartment and find them. The seamstress is imprisoned for a while but is paid by her family not to mention Anja and is eventually released. Vladek tells Anja not to have anything more to do with the Communists and she agrees.
    Poles then and later tended to assume that what Communist support there was came from Jews, although there was some also from Belarusians and Ukrainians, in part due to resentments among minorities in the Republic of Poland. Some Poles fought in the International Brigades in Spain. Some were from Poland but many were from Polish communities abroad (a lot of Poles were working in French coal mines at the time, including future Polish premier Edward Gierek). A large but not precisely known proportion of these International Brigades members were Jews by origin.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  385. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    There are the corrupt ZioTal liar Jews and then there are good neighbor true believer sheeple lesser Jews.

  386. Bookish1 says:

    Truth stands on its own two feet and has time as its ally,
    Its force is irresistible, its life indestructible.
    A. Schopenhauer

  387. Bookish1 says:
    @PolPhil

    true its sad but they have been caught in the act of a great lie thanks to the internet.

  388. How Could God Have Allowed the Holocaust?
    All Rabbis hear variations on the following questions: “How can anyone believe in God after the Holocaust? How can a supposedly loving God stand back and let such a horrible thing happen? How can you reconcile the death of even one innocent child with the existence of a just God?” For many, these questions are proof that a personal God does not exist.

    The question of why good people suffer and wicked people prosper is not new or rare, and is certainly not limited to Judaism. It is pondered by most intelligent children, and was noticed by philosophers thousands of years before the Holocaust. There is, in fact, a theological field of inquiry called “theodicy”, which investigates the basic question: If God is all powerful (omnipotent), all knowing (omniscient), and all-good, (omnibenevolent) how can evil and injustice exist?

    IMO God is a mental illness, and no matter how much the proof of no God, the believers will keep believing because the alternative is too hard to bear. The tragedy of WW2 is being used by the Jews as a card for their own power and control, and that will lead to even more conflict. We can see in the news right now how these arrogant Abrahamists are provoking Russia into WW3 – taking no responsibility for the mess in Ukraine. You can witness first hand how Jews like Nuland and Blinken are making the current crisis worse – and it all stems from these god beliefs, I’m chosen to rule over you.

    • Replies: @turtle
  389. turtle says:
    @Yukon Jack

    No man, no problem.
    – J. Stalin

    God is dead.
    – F. Nietzsche

    No God, no God delusions, and no “God’s favorite children,” either.
    – me

  390. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nat X

    The yt tiny hat tribe lives rent free in the yt wasp mind.

    How much bling do YOU pay to have your black pate permanently vacate in the brown High Colonics?

  391. anarchyst says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    I am willing to bet that “Fran Taubman” is a member of IDF Unit 8200, an israeli disinformation military unit whose only goal is to counter the TRUTH about jews and judaism. This unit’s only goal is to scour the internet and (attempt to) refute any negative aspects of judaism–zionist judaism in particular.

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
  392. anarchyst says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    No I won’t answer your questions about locations as I do not want to “poison the well” for other holocaust researchers who also wish to infect others who wish to spoil the “commonly accepted narrative” about this massive hoax.
    It is YOUR responsibility to investigate and become proactive about spreading TRUTH on your own.
    You use the yiddish word “schmuck”. Are your jewish roots showing? Are you a disinformation agent, controlled opposition or just an obnoxious “nitpicker”?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  393. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Your usual layers upon layers of lies, Fran

    They had no weapons…

    yet somehow they magically managed to (1) kill Germans in their 1918-1919 revolutions IN Germany (Bavarian Socialist Republic, Berlin’s Spartacist Revolution) and (2) kill MILLIONS in other European revolutions NEAR Germany and take control of Russia.

    Jewish resistance

    The Jews were the declared internal enemy long before there were any “stars [of Rempham/Moloch]” or “camps.” Jews were—and still are—PERPETRATORS, not “resisters” or “victims.” https://judaism.is/perpetrators.html

    This is a chicken and egg scenario.

    No. In “Jewish-Christian relations,” the Jews have always—yes, “ALWAYS”— been the prime movers. the instigators. Jews are the cause; “antisemitism” is only the effect.

    Your satanic tribe has taught “KILL EVEN THE BEST OF THE GENTILES” for millennia. Your genocidal CHABAD cult still exhorts “KILL EVEN THE BEST OF THE GENTILES.https://judaism.is/chabad.html

    • Thanks: John Wear
  394. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @anarchyst

    The fly in that ointment is that Fran has demonstrated for years that she lacks the intellect to be inducted into any “intelligence” battalion. She come unarmed to every intellectual argument. Only her dishonesty and seething Jewish supremacism keep her afloat.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  395. @Wielgus

    ‘…A large but not precisely known proportion of these International Brigades members were Jews by origin…’

    I was just looking that up. Somewhat to my surprise, it turned out about a quarter of those who served were Jews; I thought they might talk the talk but not walk the walk.

    The numbers were of course wildly disproportional to the percentage of Jews in the population of the various nations whose citizens volunteered. The Jewish Virtual Library supplies the following figures:

    ‘Poland – 2,250 (of 5,000 Poles – 45% – Jews only 10% of Polish population)
    USA – 1,250 (38% of total USA Volunteers – Jews only 4% of USA population)
    France – 1,043 (15% of French volunteers – Jews only 0.5% of population)
    Britain – some 350 (15% – Jews 0.5% of population – David Diamint’s book, mentioned below)’

    Interestingly, the proportion of Jews in a given nation’s contingent seems to have correlated with the proportion of Jews in that nation’s Communist Party. For example, 38% of US volunteers were Jews; I recall reading that 40% of the US Communist Party of the day were Jews.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  396. @Truth Vigilante

    “Your foul-mouthed behaviour in responding to the gentlemanly John Wear is disgraceful. . . .”

    I certainly agree. Wear’s comments are invariably literate and free of invective.

    • Agree: HdC
    • Thanks: John Wear
  397. @HeebHunter

    I heartily agree with your first two paragraphs but there’s no need to bash the feminine race. That’s a bad and WEAK look for all you men on here. Fran is not making all the noise alone, is she?

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @RedpilledAF
  398. @Al Liguori

    You are so right, Al. But you’re too forgiving of anarchyst. He needs to know that he is NOT one of the leading truth-tellers on these formus and stop deluding himself that he is.

    • LOL: anarchyst
  399. @anarchyst

    I won’t answer your questions about locations as I do not want to “poison the well” for other holocaust researchers who also wish to infect others who wish to spoil the “commonly accepted narrative” about this massive hoax.

    Whaaat? Someone need to decipher that. Seems like a nonsensical statement to me. Or is the writer saying he’s “infecting” others?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  400. Al Liguori says: • Website

    After ALL the perpetrators and accomplices to crimes against humanity have been apprehended, prosecuted, punished, and all loot repatriated and after we end the Synagogue of Satan’s project in the Holy Land, the world needs to return to the measures that effectively controlled the malevolence and criminality of the Jewish collective. See https://judaism.is/catholic-action.html and http://judaism.is/the-church-on-the-jews.html

  401. @John Wear

    ‘…In the case of the United States, I write on page 471 of my book “Germany’s War”:

    “Jewish historian Lucy Dawidowicz noted, “Roosevelt himself brought into his immediate circle more Jews than any other President before or after him.”…’

    Without going so far as to agree with your other views, I have noticed that the US in 1933-1939 seems to have been distinctly more hostile to Nazi Germany than any of the other Western powers. For example, I’ve read that shortly after Roosevelt began enacting his New Deal, Hitler wrote Roosevelt a letter, expressing his admiration for the reforms. Roosevelt left the letter unanswered.

    France and Britain, on the other hand, seemed to have been wary of the ‘new Germany,’ but basically willing to let it into the club, if it proved capable of behaving. Nazism seems to have been seen as perhaps a radical, but certainly an apparently successful, response to the dilemmas facing the West at the time. If this does describe the Anglo-French attitude, to what extent was it shared by Holland, Denmark, Sweden, et al? Was it also prevalent in the United States?

    It would be interesting to trace precisely how great the difference was between the US and the Western states, how much of it could be attributed to the greater numbers and influence of Jews in the United States, and how much the hostility may have varied in response to Nazi behavior. Was American opinion, for example, placated by the ‘better, kinder Germany’ of the 1936 Olympics?

    I think people now fail to understand that in 1933-1939, Nazism was not necessarily seen in much of the West as completely beyond the pale, but more of an interesting experiment that, while it had its drawbacks, was interesting and perhaps worth learning from.

    • Replies: @turtle
  402. @John Wear

    So, Hitler and other National Socialist leaders believed that the forces of international Jewry had started World War II and posed a major threat to Germany

    Your are saying that it was the Jews that forced the US into the war? Did the US convince Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor? That is when the US declared war on Japan who was allied with Germany. Did the Jews convince Hitler to bomb London? Hitler was a madman and to blame his madness on the Jews portraying a fantasy of the Jews having some supernatural power to create wars. It is a lie. The vast majority of Jews in Europe were poor.

    We have gotten to know the Jewish paradise on earth first hand. Millions of German soldiers have personally seen the land where this international Jewry has destroyed and annihilated people and property. Perhaps the President of the United States does not understand this. If so, that only speaks for his intellectual narrow-mindedness.”

    This is prima faca Medieval Jew hatred started by the Catholic Church to disparage Jews as Christ killers. What is this referring to? The Jews had no country, no standing army. If you are referring to communism and the bolsheviks, there were Jews involved but it was not done in the name of Jewry by Jews who claimed to be Jews. Jews were over represented in the Communist party but the majority of Communist and Bolsheviks were non Jews. The vast majority. To say otherwise is just assigning fictional powers and crimes to the Jews which is what Jews hatred is about. Cosmic Jew hatred is irrational. So was Hitler. Hitler drove Germany into the ground. He could have stopped anywhere along the way and called it quits, instead he had children defending Germany eating worms while he stewed in his bunker. Where is the land the international Jewry destroyed and what people did the Jews annihilate?

    The same with the statement the Jews declared war on Germany After the Nuremberg laws which stripped away citizenship from the Jews, the Jews did declare war. But this is a euphemism. The Jews had no military and no country from which to declare war on. Which is BTW why they have one now. Israel exists so they can declare war on nations or people that threaded extermination again. Like Iran. Israel and the Jews are at war with Iran.

    Adolf Hitler and other National Socialists claimed that these three countries were controlled by the forces of international Jewry. I think they are correct in their contention.

    John you seem to weave a line between cosmic irrational Jew hatred and the rational theme which was that intentional Jewry was a threat to Germany. Hitler invaded Poland and flattened Warsaw and viciously attacked and interned Poles. International Jewry had nothing to do with the Poles wanting to destroy Germany. Same with France, and Russia. You weave that line.

    Yes there was a large contingent of German communist that were Jews and yes they posed a threat to Germany. But that was a small number. Should they be arrested and interned? Yes. The vast majority of European Jews were not communist. Same in the USA. You can fantasize all you want about the power of the Jews, but it is a fantasy and is not what caused Hitler to do what he did. He was a crazy person. In the end his cause was for naught. His ideas about racial purity considered unacceptable. There was way more to the evil of Hitler than anything you can assign to the Jews.

    If you think that Germany rounded up the Jews because they were a threat to the homeland, not because they were Jews. Google why did the Germans intern the Jews , what you come up with. Fascinating really. I found the following. Let me know if any of this is written in error. Starting with the Nuremberg laws which about Jewish blood BTW the first gassings at Chelmno gassings were the mentally ill German citizens and Gypsies. John did they pose a threat to Germany?

    Oh and crickets from you on the Revno ghetto liquidation, documented by the Germans.

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/defining-the-enemy

    The Nazi Party Program:
    In February 1920, Hitler presented a 25-point Program (the Nazi Party Platform) to a Nazi Party meeting.
    In the 25-point program, Nazi Party members publicly declared their intention to segregate Jews from “Aryan” society and to revoke Jews’ political, legal, and civil rights. Point 4 of the program, for example, stated that
    “Only a national comrade can be a citizen. Only someone of German blood, regardless of faith, can be a citizen. Therefore, no Jew can be a citizen.”
    The 25 points remained the party’s official statement of goals, though in later years many points were ignored.

    The Nuremberg Laws. Who is a Jew

    Identification, Isolation, and Exclusion
    the Nuremberg Race Laws. The decrees followed a wave of anti-Jewish violence perpetrated by impatient Nazi Party radicals. Two distinct laws made up the Nuremberg Laws. The Law for the Protection of German Blood and Honor prohibited marriage and extramarital sexual relations between Jews and persons of “German” or “related blood.” The Reich Citizenship Law defined Jews as “subjects” of the state, a second-class status.

    The laws affected some 450,000 “full Jews” (defined as those with three or four Jewish grandparents and belonging to the Jewish religion), and 250,000 others (including converted Jews and Mischlinge, those with some Jewish parentage). Together they accounted for less than than one percent of the German population. For months before the announcement of the Nuremberg Laws, the Nazi Party press aggressively incited Germans against racial pollution, with the presence of Jews in public swimming pools becoming a major theme.

  403. @Fran Taubman

    If the evidence was a undeniably clear and convincing as you claim, then why to holocaust puerveyors seek at all costs to make it a criminal offense for anyone to querstion what they claim to be the undeniable truth.

    By the same token, if truth were as easaily subverted as the holocaustt purveyors feel is the case when anyone questions their story, why is there no need for laws prohibiting the denial of WWII, WWI, or the earth is round and revolves around the sun rather than that it is flat and sun revolves around the earth?

    The facts and truth are that truth always stands on its own two feet; it’s only lies and liars that need the protection of criminal laws to preserve them.

    That to me totally explains and accounts for the truth value of whatever the holocaust purveyors proclaim about it.

    And as long as the purveyors insist on imposing those criminal laws to silence any questions raised about their claims, I am entirely disinterested in even glancing at what they claim about it.

    • Agree: Al Liguori, turtle, Towey
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  404. anarchyst says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    Infecting others (with the TRUTH) is making people think for themselves, outside the “commonly accepted narrative” about the holohoax.

    • LOL: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  405. @John Wear

    So, Hitler and other National Socialist leaders believed that the forces of international Jewry had started World War II and posed a major threat to Germany. Jews were interned in camps and ghettos so that they would not participate in the war effort against Germany.

    You seem confused and a bit hypocritical about the Jews. If they were so powerful and destructive to Germany it would stand to reason that Hitler would want to exterminate them. Yet if it was just cause they were communist and he worried the Jews might fight against them during the war, thus he interned them, well that is a schism no? Which is it.

    Listen to Hitler famous January 30, 1939 speech, and tell me what you think Hitler meant. Gosh John these seems as plain as day to me.

    In this speech Hitler declares that International Jewish financiers caused WW1 and if a second war happened Germany would destroy European Jewry. That sounds pretty definitively murder, extermination etc. Which looks a lot like what he was doing.

    You cannot have it both ways John, Either he did not intern them because he hated the Jews, then assign blame to the Jews for starting WW1 in an attempt to destroy Germany, then watch the below film and not think that Hitler was rounding up the Jews all European Jews because because he wanted to exterminate them.

    Now Hitler made this clear in book form, and in speeches. So when you say that powerful American and powerful British Jews were whispering in the ears of Churchill and Roosevelt well hell yea. You reap what you sow. You declare the extermination of European Jewry as your goal, don’t be surprised to see powerful Jews convince their countries to go to war to save European Jewry.

    Does this not seem rational to you John? Ukraine asked the world to help fight Russia because Russia has declared it is going to wipe Ukraine out. If I were a Jew in America back then I would be writing my congressman to help defend European Jewry. If the world turned agains Hitler it was his fault not the Jews.

  406. anarchyst says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Jews are “Christ killers” by their own admission, taking full responsibility for their actions. Pontius Pilate was smart to “wash his hands” of the whole affair, placing total responsibility on the jews themselves. By doing this, he absolved his Roman government of responsibility–a smart move.
    As to German laws regarding jews, there was massive cooperation and collaboration between the German government of the day and jewish zionist leaders.
    Jewish zionist leaders saw selective persecution as a way to “encourage” emigration to what was then known as Palestine. As German jews lived very comfortable lives in Germany, ways needed to be found to “make life uncomfortable” for German jews as most German jews were not interested in emigrating to an unknown foreign land.
    Hence the “Nuremberg Laws” were enacted with the full approval of the jewish zionist leadership. In fact, commemorative coins were issued by both the German government and jewish zionist leaders celebrating the cooperation between the German government and jewish zionists.
    Add to that, the requirement for jews to identify themselves by wearing armbands with the yellow “star of david” came right out of the jewish zionist leadership who rallied for and demanded that the armband law be passed. This was but another way to “make life uncomfortable” for German jews.
    It is interesting to note that jews who wished to emigrate to other countries other than Palestine found few “takers”. Few other countries wanted German jewish immigrants as they were known to be “trouble”…communists, etc.

    • Thanks: Al Liguori
  407. @The Old Philosopher

    I am not in total disagreement with you about making it criminal to silence Holocaust deniers. But it is not about suppressing honest search for the truth, as I have stated in other post Holocaust denial is about the most dishonest venture there is. (If it wasn’t about the Jews, the non Jews would be saying the Jews were the deniers).

    Holocaust deniers are not seeking the truth, because the truth is indisputable. Like Colin it is like proving Australia exist because it does. Holocaust deniers use the Holocaust to insidiously promote Jew hatred. For they are not coming up with just facts. Deniers claim that Jews contrived a fake Holocaust, with fake materials, and somehow fooled the rest of the war to gain a form a victim power, and that the real victims are the Germans who were just trying to get rid of trouble makers, and the Jews are trouble makers. Who else would perpetrate a myth like that if not a satanic cult. Who else could fool the world about a Holocaust that never happened but a supernatural evil force?

    Holocaust are rabid Jew haters, rabid. They use the Holocaust to groom the world for Jew hatred that would be as virulent s pre war Germany in the hopes of passing laws that would keep the Jews from powerful positions in government and finance, just like pre war Germany.

    Deniers just love positively orgasm over the Hitlers Nuremberg laws and the limitations it placed on the Jews to move in society. Jew haters feel if the Jews were out of the picture the world would be a more fair place. And the white race would survive. Because to them the Jews hold all the power.

    You would have to ask each individual country why they passed criminal laws against Holocaust denial, but suffice to say that most people see Holocaust denial as not being about the Holocaust but about going after the Jews. WW2 was a traumatic event for the entire world. No one wants to see history repeat itself which the deniers would love to see happen.

    If only Hitler could have finished the Jews. If only. So close yet so far away. And look the Jews are more powerful than ever. It just kills them, eats their insides out that the Jews have a powerful country with a standing army not the little sheep in post war Europe, and Hitler and the National
    Socialist are dead as a door nail. Look at how he ended up.

    Since it is a criminal offense, Holocaust denial is dead. Cry me a river. I think it is good ending to an abhorrent despicable lying duplicitous people. Oh yeah they are only after the truth.

    You can dispute the numbers as not being 6 million. Yad Vashem has 4.5 million and the window is closing with the death of war survivors. You can debate certain things, just not these folks.

  408. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “Your are saying that it was the Jews that forced the US into the war? Did the US convince Japan to bomb Pearl Harbor? That is when the US declared war on Japan who was allied with Germany.”

    My response: You might enjoy reading my article on why Japan bombed Pearl Harbor at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/12/4/7534. I think you will also benefit from reading my article at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/9/3/4882.

    You ask: “Did the Jews convince Hitler to bomb London?”

    My response: The British bombing of German civilian populations began on May 11, 1940 under Winston Churchill’s leadership. Hitler did not retaliate until September 7, 1040, and that was only after dozens of British bombings of German civilian populations. You might want to read my article at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/11/3/6814 for more information.

    Churchill was sponsored by The Focus, a group which largely consisted of American and British Jews.

    You write: “What is this referring to? The Jews had no country, no standing army. If you are referring to communism and the bolsheviks, there were Jews involved but it was not done in the name of Jewry by Jews who claimed to be Jews.”

    My response: This is referring to the fact that Jews controlled Communism and the Soviet government. Please see my article again at http://www.wearswar.com/2022/04/29/jewish-involvement-in-the-bolshevik-revolution/ for more information.

    You write about Hitler: “He could have stopped anywhere along the way and called it quits, instead he had children defending Germany eating worms while he stewed in his bunker.”

    My response: Not really. Hitler made numerous peace offers to Great Britain, all of which Churchill refused. After Roosevelt and Churchill stated their unconditional surrender policy on January 24, 1943 at Casablanca, the Germans had no choice but to fight to the bitter end. Please see my article at http://www.wearswar.com/2022/01/28/the-mistaken-allied-demand-of-germanys-unconditional-surrender/ for more information.

    You ask: “Where is the land the international Jewry destroyed and what people did the Jews annihilate?”

    My response: The Soviet Union took control over most of Eastern Europe after the war. Also, approximately 9 million Germans were mass murdered by the Western Allies after the war. Please read Chapters Five, Six and Seven of my book “Germany’s War” on this website for more information.

    You write: “Hitler invaded Poland and flattened Warsaw and viciously attacked and interned Poles. International Jewry had nothing to do with the Poles wanting to destroy Germany. Same with France, and Russia. You weave that line.”

    My response: Please read my articles at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/11/1/6391 and
    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/11/3/6807 for information on these subjects.

    You write: “If you think that Germany rounded up the Jews because they were a threat to the homeland, not because they were Jews.”

    My response: Not all Jews were a threat to Germany, but many were. Since there was no way to know for sure who was a legitimate threat, most Jews were interned in camps and ghettos.

    I will continue my response in a later post. This response is getting rather lengthy, and I need to see a friend.

    • Thanks: RedpilledAF
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  409. @govtisliar

    ‘The Holocaust is a religious myth, literally the founding myth of modern Judaism, what separates it from ancient Judaism, the replacement of Exodus.’

    There is something to that, albeit I’d put it more mildly.

    Post-1970 or so, there really isn’t much to Jewish identity except for the ultra-orthodox. Increasingly, surveys show the most important aspects of Judaism among modern American Jews are the Holocaust and Israel. Take away those, and how are they different from their neighbors?

    It’s possible that if one goes back to the Fifties, Jews were still Jews. They didn’t need Israel and the Holocaust to shore up their identity; not like their grandchildren do.

    I think there’s something to this. Jews used to be very conscious of who was Jewish, and openly take pride in it. The Italians had Joe DiMaggio; the Jews had Hank Greenberg. It was a big deal when Sandy Koufax refused to pitch on Yom Kippur. Barbara Streisand was a big star — and that nose made it pretty clear she was a Jew, and that was why she was a star.

    There was a lot to Jewish identity, and it wasn’t hidden. Who needed Israel? Why keep banging the Holocaust drum? It wasn’t really what being Jewish was about anyway; thanks to the immigration restrictions of the early twenties, ties with Eastern Europe had long since been cut by the time the Holocaust happened anyway, and Israel was some little shit hole in the desert no one went to.

    But Jewish identity slipped away. Look at a film like the Coen Brothers’ A Serious Man. The protagonist is definitely still Jewish — but his identity is washing away from under his feet. His father presumably would have needed neither Israel nor the Holocaust to know he was Jewish — but one can see his children turning to those touchstones. It’ll be all they’ll have.

  410. @Fran Taubman

    ‘…Hitler was a madman and to blame his madness on the Jews portraying a fantasy of the Jews having some supernatural power to create wars…’

    Iraq seems proof that they do have this ability. Also, there’s the fact that we’re paddling around in Syria to this day. Finally, if we ever do wind up fighting in Iran, I’ll know who to credit for that.

    I think you’re right about Jewish responsibility for the Second World War — but in general, while the ability to start wars may or may not be ‘supernatural,’ Jews do seem to have it. You can’t just dismiss it as inherently impossible. It obviously is possible. Jews do instigate wars. Quite successfully.

    There’s even the Ukraine. The Biden administration is pretty much run by Jews — and it seems to be pushing us into a war with Russia that didn’t need to happen. Why, I don’t know — but that is what is happening.

    • Agree: John Wear
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  411. @gregor

    “Holocaust revisionism isn’t really about any sort of abstract philosophical deconstruction. It’s actually very concrete and straightforward, unlike the mysticism of the Holocaust. All the revisionists do is fact-check the claims.”

    Precisely.

    If the “Holocaust” is everything it’s said to be, it should withstand every criticism, every doubt that’s leveled against it. And if it isn’t, it should be relegated to the shithole of history.

  412. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Communism was created by a damned Zionist rabbi, Moses Hess http://judaism.is/assets/moses-hes-the-zionist-who-founded-communism-hoffman.pdf, and was evangeizeed by his Jewish disciple Karl Marx, but Fran tells us The Big Lie… again:

    If you are referring to communism and the bolsheviks, there were Jews involved but it was not done in the name of Jewry by Jews who claimed to be Jews. Jews were over represented in the Communist party but the majority of Communist and Bolsheviks were non Jews.

    This is almost as funny as your “prima faca” [sic] stupidity. There are hindreds of contemporary self-incriminating confessions that Communism is Jewish: http://judaism.is/perpetrators.html#selfincrimination Notice that when their genocide of over 60 million Christians was under way, the tribe boasted that Communism was theirs. Now that the death toll of Judeo-Communism and even the Jewish ownership of “Chinese” Communism is well-known https://judaism.is/china.html , Satan’s Chosen (like Fran) pretend they had nothing to do with it:

    “The Russian intelligentsia . . . saw in the philosophy of Judaism the germs of Bolshevism —the struggle of … Judaism versus Christianity.” • Leon Dennen, in The Menorah Journal (New York, July-September 1932, p. 105

    “Some call it Marxism – I call it Judaism.” • Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, in the American Bulletin of May 15, 1935

    [MORE]

    “The revolution in Russia is a Jewish revolution.” • The Maccabean (New York), Nov. 1905, p, 250

    “Jewry is the mother of Marxism.” • Le Droit de Vivre, May 12, 1936

    “Judaism is Marxism, Communism” • Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 64 https://archive.org/details/AProgramForTheJewsAndAnAnswerToAllAntiSemites

    “The communist soul is the soul of Judaism.” • Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 143 https://archive.org/details/AProgramForTheJewsAndAnAnswerToAllAntiSemites

    “We Jews cannot be called upon to denounce Communism.” • The American Hebrew (New York), February 3, 1939, p. 11

    “It is obvious then that if the Jewish problem is ever to be solved, far more intelligent measures must be resorted to than those employed by the medievals. […] To accomplish this we must in a measure redeem the Jews and remake the Gentiles. That is what the Communists are trying to do in Russia, and because of their determination and monstrous energy they may actually effect it in three generations. […] Indeed, the Jews are already too numerous in the bureaucracy, and that is probably the chief reason why covert antisemitism is still very rife in Russia.” • British Jew and former rabbi, Dr. Lewis Browne (1897 – 1949) https://archive.org/details/howoddofgodanint028404mbp/page/n243/mode/2up?view=theater

    “There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so many Jews are Bolsheviks, in the fact that the ideals of Bolshevism are consistent with the finest ideals of Judaism…” •Peace, War, and Bolshevism, The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1919 https://archive.org/details/B-001-018-446

    “The picture which the Soviet Union presents today is one that should bring rejoicing to world Jewry.” • The Youngstown Jewish Times, Sept. 18, 1936, page 51

    “It would be absurd to deny the intensity of the Jewish participation in the Russian revolutionary movement.” • Leon Dennen, in The Menorah Journal (New York) July-September 1932, p. 106

    “That achievement —the Russian-Jewish revolution — destined to figure in history as the overshadowing result of World War, was largely the outcome of Jewish thinking, of Jewish discontent, of Jewish effort to reconstruct.” • The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920

    “The Bolshevik Government of Russia is the key-stone of the arch of the proof of the Jewish conspiracy for radicalism and world-domination.” • William Hard, The Great Jewish Conspiracy (New York: American Jewish Book Company, 1920), p. 31

    “The Jewish elements provide the driving forces for communism.” • Dr. Oscar Levy, in George Pitt-Rivers, The World Significance of the Russian Revolution (Oxford, 1920), p. ix

    “The Jews [have been] furnishing for the Bolsheviks the majority of their leaders.” • The Jewish World (London), April 16, 1919, p. 11

    “Russian Jews have taken a prominent part in the Bolshevist movement.” • The American Hebrew (New York), November 18, 1927, p. 20

    “Jewry has come to wield a considerable power in the Communist Party.” • Dr. Avrahm Yarmolinsky, in The Menorah Journal (New York), July 1928, p. 37

    “The East-Side Jew [Trotsky] that Conquered Europe” • The Liberator (New York), March 1920, pp. 26-27

    “The real East Sider [New York Jew Trotsky] is at the head of things in Russia.” • M. L. Larkin, in The Public (New York), November 23, 1918, p. 1433

    “It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism; all this is in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews.” • Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 148 https://archive.org/details/AProgramForTheJewsAndAnAnswerToAllAntiSemites

    “Karl Marx, who came from an old family of rabbis and brilliant Talmudic scholars, was to point the path of victory for the proletariat.” • L. Rennap, Anti-Semitism and the Jewish Question (London, 1942), p. 31

    “Among his [Karl Marx’s] ancestors were Rabbis and Talmudists, men of learning and keen intellect.” • Henry Wickham Steed, in The American Hebrew (New York), December 9, 1927, p. 206

    “The peculiarly Jewish logic of his [Karl Marx’s] mind” • Henry Wickham Steed, in The American Hebrew (New York), December 9, 1927, p. 206

    “Mr. Wickham Steed lays the rise of Bolshevism at the doors of Jewry.” • The Jewish Guardian (London), November 28, 1924, p. 4

    “The Bolshevik Revolution has emancipated the Jews as individuals.” • Dr. Avrahm Yarmolinsky, in The Menorah Journal (New York), July 1928, p. 33

    “There are many Bolshevik leaders of Jewish extraction.” • D. L. Sandelsan, in The Jewish Chronicle (London), February 20, 1920, p. 22

    “There is no Jew who does not hope with all his heart that the Soviet Union will survive and be victorious.” • Zionist Review (London: Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland), September 26, 1941, p. 7

    “Communism and internationalism are in truth and in fact great virtues. Judaism may be justly proud of these virtues.” • Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 80 https://archive.org/details/AProgramForTheJewsAndAnAnswerToAllAntiSemites

    “If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist internationalism … then the Jewish race is doomed.” • George Marlen, Stalin, Trotsky, or Lenin (New York, 1937), p. 414

    “The [Jewish] Commissars were formerly political exiles. They had been dreaming of revolution for years in their exile in Paris, in London, in New York, in Berlin, everywhere and anywhere. They saw in the Bolshevist Movement an opportunity of realizing the extreme ideas of Communism and internationalism to which their fate had compelled them.” • Dr. D. S. Pazmanik, in The Jewish Chronicle (London), September 5, 1919, p. 14

    “The Jewish people will never forget that the Soviet Union was the first country —and as yet the only country in the world— in which anti-Semitism is a crime.” • Jewish Voice (New York: National Council of Jewish Communists), January 1942, p. 16

    “Anti-Semitism was classed [by the Soviet Government] as counter-revolution and the severe punishments meted out for acts of anti-Semitism were the means by which the existing order protected its own safety.” • The Congress Bulletin, (New York: American Jewish Congress), January 5, 1940, p. 2

    “There is no official anti-Semitism in Russia; anti-Semitism in Russia is a crime against the State.” • Dr. Chalm Weizmann, The Jewish People and Palestine (London: Zionist Organization, 1939), p. 7

    “Anti-Communism is anti-Semitism.” • Jewish Voice (New York: National Council of Jewish Communists), July-August 1941, p. 23

    “The part which Jews play in the [Communist] Government of the country [Russia] does not appear to be declining.” • Harry Sacher, in The Jewish Review (London), June-August 1932, p. 43

    “The Jews have a right to subordinate to themselves the rest of mankind and to be the masters over the whole earth. This is the historic destiny of the Jews.” • Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), pp. 99-100 https://archive.org/details/AProgramForTheJewsAndAnAnswerToAllAntiSemites

    “We Jews, we the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. Nothing that you will do, will meet our needs and demands. We will destroy because we need a world of our own.” • Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, page 155

    “Soviet Russia has declared war on Christianity, and on those who profess this faith. In the Russian villages today Bolsheviks and Herbert H. Lehman . . . were called the ‘secret government of the United States’ and were linked with ‘world communism.’” • Dr. Louis Harap, in Jewish Life (New York), June 1951, p. 20

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
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  413. Al Liguori says: • Website

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  414. @anarchyst

    And that’s why you cannot reveal what ‘holocaust’ museum(s) you were asked to leave from?

    Makes absolutely no sense. Nothing you’ve said defending your fib about being kicked out of a holocaust museum makes the slightest sense. That you’re keeping it up tells me that you are dumber or more at a loss than I ever thought. That’s why I used that Jewish* word for you – it fit better than any other word I know. Came right to my mind and wouldn’t leave.

    I think I’ve carried this on long enough, so I’ll quit now unless you provoke me.

    *There are Jewish words that have entered the everyday language of the Gentile.

    • Troll: anarchyst
  415. turtle says:
    @Colin Wright

    As I understand it, Adolf Hitler was Time magazine’s “Man of the Year” in 1938.
    You don’t get much more “mainstream U.S. journalism” than Time magazine, particularly in those days. Was Time “duped,” or were they rationally assessing the situation as it appeared at that time?

    Certainly Roosevelt’s various programs were seen by some as “perhaps … radical, but … apparently successful,” although perhaps less successful than Hitler’s.

    Oh, and the great athlete Jesse Owens is on record as saying it was his own President, not the Chancellor of Germany who rudely snubbed him.

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  416. @Fran Taubman

    Claims:

    But it is not about suppressing honest search for the truth, as I have stated in other post Holocaust denial is about the most dishonest venture there is. (If it wasn’t about the Jews, the non Jews would be saying the Jews were the deniers).

    Sorry, but it is all about suppressing the honest search for the truth” that is the very foundation for criminalizing challenges to the holocaust purveyor narrative.

    For the fact is that the honest pursuit of the truth requires examining physical facts and evidence that establish what occurrenced in the past. To give an example. PBS had a program some years ago about the Spanish conquest of the Incas that involved them examining the cause of deaths of warriors who fought against the Spaniards. The interesting finding that showed what must really have happpened that enabled the few Spanish to conquer the Incas was that almost all of the injuries of the Inca warriors were caused not by bullets fired by the Spanish soldiers or by their swords, but crushing injuries inflicted by weapons used on both sides by Indian warriors. Voila, the Spanish succeeded by allying themselves to segments of the Inca nation oposed to the existing rulers, and thereby helped the Spanish to defeat their fellow Indians. The Spanish, of course, thereafter double crossed their former allies and crushed them.

    That’s how one uses facts and evidence to establish as close as possible the truth about what happened in the past. Not by passing laws prohibiting anyone from denying that the Spanish succeeded only by allying themselves with a sement of the local population that really refuted the supposed superiority of the Spanish colonizers over the people they subjugated.

    So let’s talk about facts and truth. There is the story of thousands of Jews murdered by the Germans at Babi Yar. Okay, let’s have the evidence – dig up the site and establish exactly how many victims are buring there and how they were kllled. It should not be difficult to do. After all, the bodies of thousands of soldiers killed during WWII in Russian are being unearthed and no one has the slightest difficulty identifying their fatal injuries.

    So how about it. Let’s exhume the victims of Baby Yar and pin down exactly how many Jews the German liquidated there.

    It that’s what the findings are, that will forever shut up holocaust denier who claim otherwise.

    So where do holocaust purveyors stand on conducting this very simply scientific and forensic investigation?

    Your answer tells everything about who is really interested in pursuing or suppressing the “honest search for the truth.”

    • Agree: John Wear, HdC
    • Replies: @turtle
  417. turtle says:
    @Al Liguori

    And yet,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

    Jewish Bolshevism, also Judeo–Bolshevism, is an anti-communist and antisemitic canard, which alleges that the Jews were the originators of the Russian Revolution in 1917, and that they held primary power among the Bolsheviks who led the revolution. Similarly, the conspiracy theory of Jewish Communism alleges that Jews have dominated the Communist movements in the world, and is related to the Zionist Occupation Government conspiracy theory (ZOG), which alleges that Jews control world politics.

    Which, IMO, tells you more about Wackypedia than anything else.

    Now, if you call the roll of cabinet and other high level positions of the current GIW (Government in Washington) you will find a preponderance of Jews, all of whom, in my view, should be assumed to bear primary allegiance to the Jewish State of Israel, since those who do not already posses “Israeli” citizenship are most certainly eligible to do so. No man, or woman, can serve two masters.

    Those who point this out are frequently derided (by vicious Jewish Supremacists) as Auntie Sea Mites. My response? So what?

    To the best of my knowledge, it has never been illegal to speak Yiddish in the United States. It has been made illegal to speak or teach the German language in parts of the U.S., as part of the notorious Woodrow Wilson campaign to get the U.S. involved in what was then known as the Great War. Were Jews primarily responsible for this? Not to my knowledge. To the best of my knowledge, the main driving force behind the deceitful campaign by T.W. Wilson to get the U.S. involved in the European quagmire were the “big dog” U.S. bankers, led by J.P. Morgan, J.D. Rockefeller, et. al.

    There were. of course, Jewish bankers, e.g. Warburg, Schiff, et. al., but to my knowledge they were not “calling all the shots.” The bankers’ main concern, as it should have been, was that Great Britain would be able to pay its war debts. As General Smedley D. Butler famously put it, “War is a racket.”

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  418. turtle says:
    @The Old Philosopher

    Thank you for the interesting information regarding the Incas. It reminds me of some archeological investigations which have recently come to light which suggest that the Anasazi (the Ancient Ones of the Chaco Culture) were in fact cannibals. This is unsettling, to say the least, and destroys our previous notions that these were peaceful, agricultural people.

    My only comment is that investigations should always be ongoing. It should never be possible to declare that “absolute truth” has been achieved, and that questioning is now forbidden, on any topic you care to imagine.

    A salient example of this is the fact there have been significant numbers of people who were convicted of serious crimes who were later exonerated, based on evidence which only came to light subsequent to their convictions. Unfortunately for them, in some cases their exoneration was posthumous, as they were executed for crimes which, as it turned out, they did not commit.

  419. So how about it. Let’s exhume the victims of Baby Yar and pin down exactly how many Jews the German liquidated there.

    It that’s what the findings are, that will forever shut up holocaust denier who claim otherwise.

    So where do holocaust purveyors stand on conducting this very simply scientific and forensic investigation?

    Your answer tells everything about who is really interested in pursuing or suppressing the “honest search for the truth.”

    Babi Yar has been written about like a gazillion of times to respond to the deniers claims.
    How come you never ask questions about the fake history they come up with. Why don’t you research this subject yourselves. Then ask yourself why would people make up that history, with eyewitness and German records?

    NO matter what evidence you come up with, it will never satisfy the deniers. It is their profession to denigrate the Jews and obscure the facts.

    https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/by2-reliability-witnesses/

  420. @Colin Wright

    Iraq seems proof that they do have this ability. Also, there’s the fact that we’re paddling around in Syria to this day. Finally, if we ever do wind up fighting in Iran, I’ll know who to credit for that.

    There’s even the Ukraine. The Biden administration is pretty much run by Jews — and it seems to be pushing us into a war with Russia that didn’t need to happen. Why, I don’t know — but that is what is happening.

    The Biden administration is controlled by Jews. LOL. Isn’t the defense secretary an Loyd Austin black? How does this work? Is it either a Jew or a non Jew a puppet who is under Zionist tyranny. That means pretty much everyone is a Jew. Did the Jews attack Ukraine? Russia had nothing to do with that war?

    Isn’t Russia somewhat responsible? Are the Zionist behind Putin. Oh there are Jews on both sides of this fight. Gosh which side is the Jew side? Those Russian Jewish Oligarchs vs. Ukraine and the Jewish president. Do you see you this is just Jew here, Jew there, Jew Jew everywhere.

    Iraq: Did Saddam Hussein do anything to create his own demise. Did Saddam toy around with WMD even there were none. Didn’t the intel community feed that BS to the UN and the US. As far as I know there are no Jews in the State Department or the CIA. None. No one in US intel is controlled by Jews. They make a point of that.

    Is Bernie Sanders a Zionist controlled senator? The Jews are evil communist the Jews are evil capitalist bankers controlling the world finances. Did the Jews cause the Viet Nam war?

    The Jews do not start wars. The war in Ukraine is about Western Europe vs Russia. Nato and the West. Jews do not control Germany, Europe or Nato. No Jews. Putin and Israel have a very close relationship. Israel has been very slow to back Ukraine, and not upset Putin.

    So how does this all work the spook Jew. Other interest are involved. The Jews as a religion do not have one single goal, one single cause to control. You may not like the Jews and feel like they are destroying western civilization that is your prerogative. But the Jews are partners with the Christians. It is a Judaeo – Christian world of capitalism that run the world. They are entwined and their goals are the same. The Jews alone do not run the world.

    Iran: All Iran has to do is take Jewish genocide off the table and everyone will get along. If not Israel itself will take care of Iran, and it has every reason to take Iranian threats seriously.

    John Wear is writing an alternative history. The Jews were behind Roosevelt, the Jews were behind Churchill. The Jews were behind WW2. He uses Irvings false claims to write his history. Why not ask him about his data?

    According to “world class historian” David Irving’s “electrifying new research” the Focus for the defense of freedom and peace purchased Winston Churchill for £50,000 and then ordered him to fight a war against innocent Nazi Germany.
    Sounds like he took his normal Holocaust denying crap and amped it up to 11 by adding dark cabals of Mason’s, world Jewry and assorted evil Poles, evil Poles who totally did not attack that radio station.
    Not sure what to say other then,.
    1. Anyone who uses the word “world Jewry” is either batshit insane or a Nazi and likely both
    2. The Holocaust happened
    3. Churchill became the Prime Minister of the UK on 10 may 1940, the UK declared war on Nazi Germany 3 Sept 1939
    4. After the war not only did we capture the plans and orders for Überfall auf den Sender Gleiwitz but the Nazis who did it where all to happy to talk to anyone who would listen and even went as far as to go one record with in depth interviews.
    5. Winston Churchill was a multi fricken millionaire with estates, deeds and properties all over the British isles. He might have been a douchebag but he was a smart douchebag and I’m betting he would have priced himself quite a bit higher to £50k

    David Irving accuses Winston Churchill of being ‘bought’ by a secretive lobby he calls ‘the Focus’ which impelled him to champion the anti-German cause in the UK. Considering Irving’s track record, I’m pretty skeptical, but is there anything to this at all?

    I see the claim of neo-Nazis’ that the Allies declared war on Germany at the behest of ‘world Jewry’ come up a lot, but never bothered to really trace what exactly they meant by that. When I did, it seems it mostly comes down to some accusations against Churchill made most prominently by noted Holocaust Denier David Irving

  421. @Fran Taubman

    ‘…There is a film called Defiance with Daniel Craig. Learn about the Jewish resistance.

    This is false history. Not revisionism. False.

    Do tell. I’ve heard that about the film. Of course, it’s just a movie.

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  422. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @turtle

    Indeed. In concealing and defending Jewish crimes against humanity, those controlling Wikipedia must be indicted, as also Fran Taubman must be indicted, as accomplices. This is consistent with their own Jewish law as explicated in Shevuot 39a. All Jews are collectively and trans-generationally responsible for the deeds of other Jews. They have inflicted their law on Germans for imagined crimes. It is overdue to hold the Jews responsible for their very real crimes against humanity, including economic crimes against humanity.

    Dr. Dalton has done an excellent job in documenting the Jewish predominance in instigating World Wars 1 & 2: The Jewish Hand in the World Wars, Parts 1 & 2 https://codoh.com/library/document/3209/?lang=en https://codoh.com/library/document/3294/?lang=en I have also aggregated considerable such evidence on my website. The material on WW1 starts here: http://judaism.is/world-wars.html#ww1 Their motivation, including their efforts to instigate WW3, are kabbalistic in origin. Fran’s Chabad sect is prominent among those teaching that to hasten the arrival of the “moshiach” (THE Anti-Christ), the “satanic sparks” must be extinguished. They dress it up in jargon about “amalek,” “kelipot” and “sephiroth,” but they want you and me dead. I have aggregated their own words on the subject on my Kabbalah and Chabad pages: https://judaism.is/kabbalah.html https://judaism.is/chabad.html If there are any survivors, they mean to enslave and dominate us.

  423. @turtle

    ‘…As I understand it, Adolf Hitler was Time magazine’s “Man of the Year” in 1938.
    You don’t get much more “mainstream U.S. journalism” than Time magazine, particularly in those days. Was Time “duped,” or were they rationally assessing the situation as it appeared at that time?’

    I think one point this relates to is the commonplace that people ‘should have’ done something about Hitler.

    Well, up to the Spring of 1939, should they have? Was Germany really so beyond the Pale in the Thirties? Particularly in the context of the times, wasn’t it more of a matter of someone to be watched carefully, and certainly not blindly imitated?

    Japan and Italy were more aggressive, Poland as anti-semitic, Russia’s politics were bloodier — why should anyone have singled out Germany? In — say — 1936, who was a greater threat to world peace? Germany — or Russia, Japan, and Italy?

    If anything, Germany was the one that was willing to discuss things. The Polish non-aggression pact, the Anglo-German Naval Agreement, Munich, the Havara Agreement — however all these may look in hindsight, at the time, the Germans were the guys who would talk about it.

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  424. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman




    Video Link
    Biden’s cancer: “Jews are 62.5% of the Biden Administration (so far) The media is not mentioning that they are overrepresented in Biden’s administration picks by a factor of 31; That should be a slogan of the Biden Administration: ‘Now with 31 times the Jews.’ Or perhaps they could just print bumper stickers and other merchandise that reads ‘31X.’” Biden’s Jewish Administration https://speculareffect.org/2020/11/26/bidens-jewish-administration/

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  425. @Colin Wright

    The movie is based on a historic event. A resistance group of brothers called the Belinski.

    Here is the documentary the film is based on. It is about 4 episodes.

  426. @Fran Taubman

    ‘The Biden administration is controlled by Jews. LOL…’

    I figured you’d walk into that one. Thank you, Fran, for giving me an opportunity to amplify.

    Biden himself, of course, is a senile puppet. The various token minorities in his administration are puppets as well.

    Let’s cut to the chase. The eight largest contributors to Biden’s campaign were all Jews. Of the first six whites named the cabinet, five were Jews and the sixth half-Jewish. Biden himself has claimed to be ‘a Zionist’ — and Kamala Harris claims she went door to door as a child, collecting coins for the Jewish National Fund.

    For better or worse, this is a Jewish administration. How could it be more Jewish? If anyone’s running the country, it’s Ron Klain.

    Would you like to talk to talk about the Ukraine?

  427. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “Babi Yar has been written about like a gazillion of times to respond to the deniers claims. How come you never ask questions about the fake history they come up with. Why don’t you research this subject yourselves. Then ask yourself why would people make up that history, with eyewitness and German records?”

    My response: I have researched this subject myself. My article on Babi Yar is located at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/10/2/5569. The official Babi Yar narrative does not hold up to scrutiny.

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  428. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “David Irving accuses Winston Churchill of being ‘bought’ by a secretive lobby he calls ‘the Focus’ which impelled him to champion the anti-German cause in the UK. Considering Irving’s track record, I’m pretty skeptical, but is there anything to this at all?”

    My response: If you want to do additional research on The Focus, I suggest you read the following sources:

    1. Churchill’s help in the launching and operation of The Focus is discussed in Martin Gilbert’s book Churchill and the Jews: A Lifelong Friendship, New York: Henry Holt and Company, LLC, 2007, p. 136.

    2. You can read about The Focus in the book Sir Robert Waley-Cohen 1877-1952, A Biography by Robert Henriques. Robert Waley-Cohen was chairman of the Royal Dutch Shell Corporation and was a prominent member of The Focus.

    3. The Focus is mentioned in Addison, Paul. Churchill: The Unexpected Hero. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2005, p. 144: “In the spring of 1936, with the assistance of a secret cross-party organization known as ‘The Focus’, Churchill began to call for Britain to adopt a foreign policy based on collective security under the League of Nations.”

    4. The Focus is also mentioned in Jackson, Ashley, Churchill, New York: Quercus, 2014, pp. 210, 213, 219.

  429. @Wielgus

    ‘…A statistic in a book by Poland specialist Norman Davies…’

    What do you think of Davies?

    I’ve been trying to find a decent history of Poland during the Nazi occupation. So far, I’ve bought two books — both were appalling. Chauvinism aside, one spent most of the book insisting the Poles tried to help the Jews — that’s nice, but it wasn’t what I was actually interested in. The other devoted itself almost entirely to the Poles overseas — also marginally relevant but not what I wanted to know about either.

    It’s getting to be like Chinese restaurants here in the town we’ve moved to. There are about six — but we’ve tried two. They were both appalling. Kind of reluctant to try any more.

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    , @Wielgus
  430. @lydia

    Sweet Lydia, does “the ability to stay in uncertainty” also apply to protecting the reputation of long passed famous people who are no longer around to defend themselves? You see, accusations against such men could be a double edged sword. By scandalizing them, doubts are sown in the collective mind of society – perhaps all our traditions and history are very bad after all. On the other hand, the youth as well as feebleminded adults are persuaded to practice and adopt perverse lifestyles by claiming that, see? even the famous so and so were perverts!

    i remember watching long ago on CNN a “news report!” that some monkeys and insects (!) were engaging in sodomy. (The reporter used a different word.) The subtext of the story was that perversion was a normal thing and people should act like dumb animals and brainless insects.

    Psalm 48*:12/21
    Nevertheless man, though in honor, does not remain;
    He is like the beasts that perish.
    *49 if you like

  431. @John Wear

    Most of your history and articles are alternative history supported by made up facts. This one is a beauty.

    Churchill was sponsored by The Focus, a group which largely consisted of American and British Jews.

    There is nothing to prove this other than a rant by Irving with no back up data to support it. World Jewry is an oxymoron. The Jews could not save themselves, never mind control politics.

    This thread has becoming circuitous. You point out alternative history that only you and other deniers support. You have maximum 10,000 followers worldwide who believe this rewritten history, exculpating the Germans from crimes and blaming the Jews for dragging Britain and the US into war. So powerful these to be able to elect world leaders but not be able to prevent their own destruction.

    I do not accept your articles as facts, and neither do the major historians of the European Wars.. Still crickets on the 20,000 deaths at the Rovno ghetto, which you claim is absurd. Still no explanation of the Jewish resistance as you write caused the Jews to be interned when most of your findings are resistance uprising while in the Ghetto. Your views are circuitous and self supporting, with not much support. I find them ridiculous.

    Watch the Belski Brothers description how Jews fled while there Ghettoes were being shot and killed Jews. They lived in the woods for 3 years terrorizing the Germans. The Belski resistance was so strong, the Germans mounted an entire operation. Aircraft and infantry to snuff them out of the woods. The survived. They killed Germans, and bombed trains. Any Ukrainians who leaked where they were they shot.

    Is this the Jewish resistance that you are talking about that was dangerous to the Germans? Why else would Jews run into the Black Forest in the dead of winter with nothing but the shirts off their backs, eat bark and freeze and live to kill Germans for revenge if they did not fear for their life.

    The Jews won and the Germans lost. History is written by the winners. Sorry your history is just pissing in the wind. No one buys Germany’s innocence and Jewish conspiracies.

    Here is Jewish resistance.

    [MORE]

    In closing here is your false

    Focus Group

    by Irving. Completely made up.

    xxxxxxhttps://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7suri7/david_irving_accuses_winston_churchill_of_being/

    • Replies: @John Wear
  432. @Fran Taubman

    Fran Hasbara Taubman:

    (((You))) would like all of us, Jews & goyim, to be thrown in prison for questioning your sacred “Holocau\$t” extortion racket.

    What more do we need to know about or say to the likes of (((you)))?

  433. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Unscientific, but I saw a photo of Dabrowski (Polish) battalion members of the International Brigades displaying their unit flags and several looked Jewish, though others did not. 45% seems about right, although sources I have read would not put an exact figure on it, merely saying that the number of Jews was substantial.
    Organising the International Brigades often depended on the Communist parties in various countries, they often sought volunteers from among their younger and healthier members and it is not so surprising that these tended to reflect the ethnic composition of the parties.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  434. @Fran Taubman

    Fran, Austin may be ‘Black’, but Yellen, Garland, Blinken, Sherman, Nudelman, Klain, Mayorkas, Walensky, etc, certainly are not. Why attempt such a ludicrously poor ‘argument’?

  435. @Al Liguori

    The 61.9 MILLION figure is the work of deranged psychopathic liars.

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  436. turtle says:
    @Colin Wright

    the commonplace that people ‘should have’ done something about Hitler.

    It is worth keeping in mind that, by that time, Germany was ruled by a rather vicious absolute dictatorship, which had consolidated its power by murdering its political enemies (Night of the Long Knives) and incarcerating many others. In that regard, it behaved similarly to various other thuggish regimes throughout history, for example the Ba’athist regime in Iraq, in more recent history.

    Germany did not invent the concentration camp (for that we can thank our lovely friends the British), but the Third Reich certainly favored their use. KzL Dachau, for example, was established almost as soon as the NSDAP came to power. Were people murdered there? Absolutely. Were the victims “nearly all Jews?” Not even close. Anyone who dared cross the authorities might end up there, or at a similar facility.

    Given those circumstances, how many ordinary people are likely to criticize the government? Not many, I suspect. Yet many did, and paid with their lives. Others endured long stretches of incarceration. There is something fundamentally twisted about a regime which incarcerates the head (Fritz Thyssen) of its second largest steel manufacturer.

  437. @IronForge

    Only the tribe of Levi you shall not number, nor take a census of them among the children of Israel.
    – Numbers 1:49

    Esther had not revealed her people or family, for Mordecai had charged her not to reveal it.
    – Esther 2:10

    Go figure.

    • Thanks: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @anarchyst
  438. @Fran Taubman

    Dear Fran, what do you think of that good Jew, Norman Finkelstein, and his neat little volume, ‘The Holocaust Industry’? Do you agree that the Zionazis have misused the Nazi Judeocide and insulted the victims by using it as a weapon to justify Israeli barbarity?

  439. @RJ Macready

    A 1: Those bodies did not have enough muscle mass remaining to pull on a pair of socks. How then were they marched into gas chambers? The COD was something else.

    A 2: The Gold Standard in eye witness testimony is when the witness gives new information about the crime previously unknown to the prosecution and could not be known unless the witness was actually at the scene, or somehow involved. Like say when they cough up the location of the body or murder weapon. Then you know, even if they were tortured (not that anyone should ever be tortured), that the witness in question damn well has some connection with the crime. No if’s and’s or but’s.

    However, when a “witness” is really just a victim of torture and gives answers that somehow satisfy the narrative of the prosecution but real forensic evidence or other corroboration is still entirely lacking, then you might be looking at a kangaroo court. This appears to be the difference between the Nuremberg trials and the case of Simon of Trent, as discussed in Blood Passover, 1st edition, by Ariel Toaff.

  440. @Fran Taubman

    In return for Palestine, Zionist Jews in England and America brought in USA into World War 1 on the side of the British. That selfish act completely screwed over the twentieth century.

    Whether or not the mass murder on September 11, 2001 was Jewish Lightning (ho ho ho), Jewish controlled media in USA absolutely manipulated American public opinion to support the 2003 invasion of Iraq. In front of our face: conspiracy fact.

    That bloody selfish act screwed over the whole trajectory of the twenty first century. Proud of it?

    • Agree: Al Liguori
  441. Al Liguori says: • Website

    Yours is a “glass house,” Fran.

    Jews Blackmailed Wilson Into World War 1
    [Samuel Untermeyer of “Judea Declares War on Germany” infamy and Scofield Concordance funding infamy is the main blackmailer.]

    http://www.genuinechristianitynow.com/2018/07/16/jews-blackmailed-wilson-into-ww-i/

    [MORE]

    World War 1 broke out in the summer of 1914. Within two years Germany had won the war.

    The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the British convoys from the Atlantic Ocean and leaving Britain without ammunition and food for her soldiers.

    At that time the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. And the Italian army had collapsed.

    Not a shot had been fired on German soil yet Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis which means: “Let’s call the war off and let everything be as it was before the war started.”

    England, in the summer of 1916, was considering Germany’s peace terms. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was offering them or going on with the war and being totally defeated.

    While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, led by the Jew, Chaim Weitzman, who later became the 1st President of Israel, went to the British War Cabinet and said: “Don’t capitulate to Germany. You can win this war if the United States comes in as your ally. We can arrange this. But in return, you must promise us Palestine once the tide turns in your favor.”

    The Zionist Jew Chaim Weitzman was a Russian born chemist who moved to England in 1904. By 1915, Weitzman had developed a chemical process of producing acetone from maize. Acetone was a vital ingredient in production of artillery shells which Britain and her allies had a short supply of in the beginning of World War I.

    It was during this period that Weitzman, through the mediation of Walter Rothschild, met Sir Arthur James Balfour, the First Lord of the Admiralty, and David Lloyd George, Britain’s Minister of Munitions.

    Both of these political figures were under the influence of the Rothschild banking dynasty, of which the Zionist Jew, Walter Rothschild, was the head. It did not hurt Weitzman’s goals when in 1916 Lloyd George became the British Prime Minister and Arthur Balfour the Foreign Secretary.

    It was through this connection that the Balfour Declaration granted “a Jewish homeland within Palestine.” The Balfour Declaration was officially written to Walter Rothschild in 1919. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain’s promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon for getting the United States into the war.

    During this time period in America, President Woodrow Wilson was campaigning for his re-election in 1916 on his popular campaign slogan, “He Kept Us out of War.” But on April 2, 1917, President Wilson addressed both houses of Congress and pleaded with them to declare war against Germany. What made Wilson change his mind?

    Shortly before President Wilson’s re-election, he received a Jewish visitor in the White House by the name of Samuel Untermeyer [Editor’s Note: One and the same Untermeyer who funded and promoted Scofield’s Concordance and who declared World War 2 on behalf of World Jewry in 1933]. The Jew Untermeyer was a prominent New York City attorney of the Law Firm, Guggenheim, Untermeyer, & Marshall.

    The Firm had as one of its main clients, Kuhn Loeb Bank, of which Jacob Schiff, an agent of Walter Rothschild, was the head. Both Untermeyer and Schiff contributed generously to the National Democratic Committee that installed President Wilson in the White House in both of his elections.

    Untermeyer informed President Wilson that he had been retained to bring a Breach of Promise action against President Wilson. Untermeyer’s client was the former wife of a professor at Princeton University at the same time that Wilson was a professor at Princeton University. Untermeyer informed Wilson that his client was willing to accept \$40,000 in lieu of commencing the Breach of Promise action.

    Untermeyer produced a packet of letters from his pocket written by President Wilson to his colleague’s wife when they were neighbors at Princeton University. These letters established the fact that an illicit relationship had existed between Wilson and the wife of his Princeton colleague. Wilson immediately acknowledged his authorship of the letters. Untermeyer then informed Wilson that his former sweetheart was in dire need of \$40,000.

    President Wilson informed Untermeyer that he did not have the \$40,000 to pay his blackmailer. Untermeyer then volunteered to give Wilson’s former sweetheart the \$40,000 out of his own pocket – but on one condition: that President Wilson promise to appoint to the first vacancy on the United States Supreme Court, the Zionist and Talmudic Jew, Louis Dembitz Brandeis.

    Without further talk, President Wilson accepted Mr. Untermeyer’s generous offer. Then on June 5 1916, nearly one year before Wilson asked Congress to declare war on Germany, Wilson appointed the Zionist Jew, Louis Brandeis, to the Supreme Court.

    Many were surprised that Wilson, the son of a Christian minister, would appoint to the highest court in the land the first Jewish Supreme Court Justice in US history.President Wilson and Justice Brandeis became unusually intimate friends. Brandeis knew the circumstances behind his appointment by President Wilson and Wilson feared him because of it.

    Justice Brandeis, through the advice of his Zionist colleague, Rabbi Stephen Wise, volunteered his opinion to President Wilson that the sinking of the S.S. Sussex by a German submarine in the English channel with the loss of lives of US citizens justified a US Declaration of War against Germany.

    Relying to a great extent upon the legal opinion of Justice Brandeis, (as well as fear of what Brandeis knew of Wilson’s illicit affair), President Wilson appealed to Congress to declare war against Germany.

    This Congress did, on April 6, 1917. The Declaration of War against Germany by the United States guaranteed the Jews throughout the world that Palestine would be turned over to them upon the defeat of Germany even though Britain had already promised it to Trans-Jordan upon the defeat of the Ottoman Empire.

    Indeed, Congress declared war against Germany because of Wilson’s assertion that Germany had sunk the S.S. Sussex and that US citizens aboard had perished with the ship. But after General Pershing’s troops were fighting in Europe, the hoax was exposed. The S.S. Sussex had not been sunk and no citizens of the US had lost their lives.

    But now the United States was officially at war in Europe. In this war, 115,516 American soldiers were killed and 202,002 were maimed for life.

    That is what the Anti-Christian Jews of the world conspired to achieve in their crooked diplomatic underworld.

    • Thanks: turtle
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  442. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    Chabad & the Russian Revolution. http://judaism.is/kabbalah.html

    “Throughout the revolutionary period, its leadup and its aftermath, Rabbi Shalom DovBer Schneersohn—known in Chabad as the Rebbe Rashab— worked tirelessly to mobilize the Jewish community, strengthen its Purim in Petrograd, 1917 infrastructure, and ensure that its most basic religious needs were provided for. The decisive days of February and October 1917 found him in Petrograd and Moscow respectively. […]

    Back in 1910 the Rebbe Rashab had stood up to the Tsarist regime when they sought to secularize Jewish education. In a meeting with Pyotr Stolypin at the time, the soon to be assassinated Minister of the Interior dubbed the Rebbe “Schneersohn the revolutionary.” […]

    In this context, the Rebbe Rashab recalled that at every moment the famed Rabbi Levi Yitzchak of Berdichev anticipated the onset of the messianic age, the ultimate redemption that Jews have awaited for two thousand years. But at the time of Napoleon’s invasion, Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi, the founder of Chabad, “knew with clarity that the time had not yet come,” and argued instead that Russia’s success would ensure the spiritual welfare of the Jewish people. While the Rebbe Rashab’s comments—as recorded by his son—are rather cryptic, it seems that he hoped that this time the war would indeed anticipate a messianic upheaval, bringing spiritual and physical emancipation for the Jewish people and the entire world.” […]

    “[Chabad Rebbe] argued, the Jews of Russia should exercise their civil rights to advance the cause of Torah. In a second public letter he called for individuals in each city and town to organize themselves on the local level, acting strategically to reinforce the fundamental institutions of Jewish life.”

    pgs 22, 24, 30
    Resolution in a Time of Revolution
    by Rabbi Elu Rubin
    http://teshura.com/Schwei-Rubin%20-%20Tishrei%2028%2C%205778.pdf

  443. geokat62 says:

    Inside Israeli Apartheid: A video report from Mondoweiss

    Description:

    For decades Palestinians have accused Israel of the crime of Apartheid, imposing two different systems on the land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea: one system that that privileges Jews, and another that discriminates against Palestinians. Now, the rest of the world is catching up.

    In this 22-minute video, Palestinian human rights experts break down what Apartheid means, and how it applies to Israel’s control over Palestinians, while ordinary Palestinian citizens of Israel, residents of the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and refugees in the diaspora take us inside their homes and towns, and tell us what it’s like being a Palestinian living under Israeli rule.

    This is a look Inside Israeli Apartheid

    • Thanks: turtle
  444. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @mulga mumblebrain

    The late Prof. R. J. Rummel, the originator of the concept of “democide” (governments killing their own people), is the source of that widely-accepted tally: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MEGA.HTM

    The Jews bear primary and enormously disproportionate responsibility for killing those 61.9 million Christians and about ¼ BILLION other people. https://judaism.is/perpetrators.html

  445. John Wear says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “In closing here is your false Focus Group by Irving. Completely made up.”

    My response: Your article from redditt mentions The Focus from the following sources: 1) Eugen Spier: The Focus. A footnote in history, 2) Paul Addison: Churchill on the Home Front, 1900–1955, and 3) Roy Jenkins: Churchill: A Biography. Thank you for giving me these additional sources of information about The Focus.

    As I mentioned in comment number 435, if you want to do additional research on The Focus, I suggest you read the following sources:

    1. Churchill’s help in the launching and operation of The Focus is discussed in Martin Gilbert’s book Churchill and the Jews: A Lifelong Friendship, New York: Henry Holt and Company, LLC, 2007, p. 136.

    2. You can read about The Focus in the book Sir Robert Waley-Cohen 1877-1952, A Biography by Robert Henriques. Robert Waley-Cohen was chairman of the Royal Dutch Shell Corporation and was a prominent member of The Focus.

    3. The Focus is mentioned in Addison, Paul. Churchill: The Unexpected Hero. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2005, p. 144: “In the spring of 1936, with the assistance of a secret cross-party organization known as ‘The Focus’, Churchill began to call for Britain to adopt a foreign policy based on collective security under the League of Nations.”

    4. The Focus is also mentioned in Jackson, Ashley, Churchill, New York: Quercus, 2014, pp. 210, 213, 219.

    The Focus is a real group that actually existed. You do not have to take David Irving’s word for it.

    • Thanks: Al Liguori
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  446. Al Liguori says: • Website

    The fingerprints of FRAN TAUBMAN’s CHABAD are all over the Judeo-Communist genocide. Extermination of Gentiles is an ancient Jewish tradition. World War 3 is Jewish revenge according to the late Chabad Rebbe Schneerson: https://judaism.is/kabbalah.html It is necessary to penetrate the Kabbalistic jargon about “Esau,” “Edom,” “Rome,” “amalek,” “sparks” (“iskra”), “kelipot,” etc.

    “Rashi* says: ‘G-d’s sovereignty will not be complete until He exacts retribution from the descendants of Eisav’.” Redemption Through the Refining of Rome, Sichos in English, Shabbos Parshas VaYishlach; 14th Day of Kislev, 5751 http://beismoshiach.org/Dvar%20Malchus/sie346.htm

    “At creation, there was an explosion and the sparks of divine light were shattered & subsequently held captive in shells, kelipot. The sparks need to be restored to their original state. [By killing non-Jews] […] This is also the view of the Tanya & is still one of the most central doctrines in Chabad.”
    Pg 59
    We Want Moshiach Now! • Understanding the Messianic Message in the Jewish Chabad-Lubavitch Movement
    https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/54408/rosengard_nanna.pdf

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    Fr. Pranaitis records Jewish ‘doctrine’ on how they teach by killing the Kelipot-goyim & removing them from this world, they raise the holy SPARKS, which in return, accelerates or hastens the coming of ‘Moshiach’. As you have already read above, this is a central ‘doctrine’ in Chabad.

    Before quoting Fr. Pranaitis, it is important to clarify that kelipot (also “klipot, kelipah) does mean Gentiles, non-Jews.Source: The Messianic Idea in Judaism And Other Essays on Jewish Spirituality by Gershom Scholem, a professor of Jewish mysticism at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.

    Quoting Fr. Pranaitis:

    “In Sefer Ohr Yisroel – ‘Take the life of the Klipot & kill them, then the Shekinah will consider this on par with the incense of the sacrifice.’ Also ‘A Jew is obliged to remove thorns from his vineyard.” Section 11.

    “When creating the good and evil sides (the evil side – the Kelipots), part of the sparks of the Deity fell on the evil side. The release of these sparks from the Kelipot (the evil side) and their return upward – to the original source ACCELERATES the coming of the Messiah. […]

    [Hasten the coming of Moshiach] by KILLING THE SHELLS (KELIPOT, GOYIM) AND REMOVING THEM FROM THIS WORLD, for then they themselves (the Kelipots) lift up the holy sparks in their shells.
    Section 15.
    Дело об убийстве Андрюши Ющинского «Тайна крови» у евреев
    Экспертиза И.Е. Пранайтиса
    Издание Русского Народного Союза имени Михаила Архангела
    С.-Петербург · 1913 г.
    The case of the murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky: “Secret of blood” among the Jews
    Examination by I.E. Pranaitis
    Publication of the Russian People’s Union named after Michael the Archangel
    St. Petersburg 1913
    http://rus-sky.com/history/library/pranaitis.htm

    Tanya: “The root and source of all Jewish souls is in the Supreme Wisdom… the kelipot and sitra achra (non-Jews) are called vomit and filth, as is known.”

    The Tanya (Tanya literally means “dissuade”*** https://context.reverso.net/translation/hebrew-english/%D7%AA%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%90)
    chapter 24, last paragraph
    https://www.chabad.org/library/tanya/tanya_cdo/aid/1028968/jewish/Chapter-24.htm

    ***Though is deception typical for Wikipedia, it is claimed: “The Tanya (Hebrew: תניא) is an early work of Hasidic philosophy, by Rabbi Shneur Zalman of Liadi, the founder of Chabad Hasidism, first published in 1796. Its formal title is Likkutei Amarim (ליקוטי אמרים‎, Hebrew, “collection of statements”), but is more commonly known by its opening word, Tanya, which means ‘it was taught in a beraita.’” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya accessed May 8, 2022

    Chabad Rebbe:

    “The holy spirit of God spoke via Isaac (Yitzchak) Luria (Arizal).”
    https://sie.org/templates/sie/article_cdo/aid/4095070/jewish/Section-6.htmoke:1

    “For Luria, this was, therefore, a way of explaining redemption: once all the sparks had been liberated [Non-Jews being killed] and returned to God, the exile would end and the time of the Messiah would come”
    Pg 78
    We Want Moshiach Now! • Understanding the Messianic Message in the Jewish Chabad-Lubavitch Movement
    https://archive.md/HOMpK
    https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/54408/rosengard_nanna.pdf

    “Redemption is no more than the external manifestation of the inner state of tikkun (“restitution”) which depends on the deeds of Israel and a realization of the way of life which the Kabbalah preaches. The fact of tikkun is not something which depends on a miracle, but rather on human action … [the Messiah’s] coming is conditional upon the accomplishment of the task of Israel in the “tikkun of the world.” According to this latter view, there is a human and historical preparation for redemption and the Messiah will come automatically if this preparation is completed. This belief is widespread among the disciples of Isaac Luria, and it follows logically from the basic assumptions of Lurianic Kabbalah.”
    p. 6
    Encyclopedia Judaica, entry on “Redemption”
    https://archive.org/details/encyclopaediajud0014unse/page/n16/mode/1up

    Hence;

    political Kabbalah

    Jewish philosopher Solomon Maimon (1753-1800):

    “The secret political meaning of the Kabbalah is known only to the superiors of the secret society. These superiors themselves, as well as their operations, remain ever unknown; the rest of the society you may become acquainted with, if you choose. But the latter cannot betray political secrets which are unknown to themselves, while the former will not do it, because it is against their interest. Only the lesser (purely literary) mysteries are entrusted to the people and urged upon them as matters of the highest importance. The greater political mysteries are not taught, but, as a matter of course, are brought into practice.”
    page 158
    Solomon Maimon: An Autobiography by Solomon Maimon https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/41042/pg41042-images.html

    “Study Kabbalah and put into practice its various methods.”
    Intoduction to the World of Kabbalah
    by Z’ev Ben Shimon Halevi (Warren Kenton), p. 7.
    https://d2fahduf2624mg.cloudfront.net/pre_purchase_docs/BK_COMM_006478/2021-06-30-06-54-35/bk_comm_006478.pdf

    “Early kabbalah was infused with Messianism (i.e. end time calculations, messianic ideas and visions). It stressed the catastrophic element of redemption […] The task of hastening the end even became pivotal for the mystics, just as it is for [Chabad] Lubavitchers today.”
    We want Moschiach Now! • Understanding the Messianic Message in the Jewish Chabad-Lubavitch Movement
    by Nanna Rosengård, p. 57
    https://archive.md/HOMpK
    https://www.doria.fi/bitstream/handle/10024/54408/rosengard_nanna.pdf

    Neil Asher Silberman archaeologist and historian:

    “Concealed between the lines of the Kabbalah’s most powerful scriptures…a secret movement of kabbalists who eagerly looked forward to the destruction of Christendom and the end of the world.”
    p. 73
    Heavenly Powers: Unraveling the Secret History of the Kabbalah
    By Neil Asher Silberman · 2001
    https://www.google.ca/books/edition/Heavenly_Powers/EHGz2oys6HkC?hl=en&gbpv=0&bsq=secret%20movement%20of%20kabbalists%20who%20eagerly%20looked%20forward

    This matches with what we see in the Protocols as well.

  447. geokat62 says:

    Q&A With Brother Nathaniel



    Video Link

    Full transcript…

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    I get fan mail, I get hate mail, I get lots of questions.

    First Question:
    “Why do you hate Jews so much?”
    Well, why do you LOVE Jews so much?
    They don’t love you.
    They call you a dumb goy and they call your wife a shiksa which means an unclean animal from the Hebrew word shagetz.
    I grew up in Judaism and Jews cringe when they hear a goy saying, ‘I love the Jewish people.’
    They don’t buy it.
    They know they’re not loveable.
    Really now.
    Any man of principle will ‘hate’ that which opposes his worldview.
    It’s Biblical.
    “You who love the Lord, hate evil,” says the Bible.
    “Do not I hate those who hate Thee, O Lord? Yea I hate them with a perfect hatred,” King David wrote.
    “Reprove the works of darkness,” taught St Paul.
    And no one does more works of darkness than the Jews.
    Look.
    One has to be in an exceptionally, lofty, high Spiritual state to weep over devils and to love Jews.

    Second Question:
    “Is Nina Jankowizc, head of Homeland Security’s ‘Ministry of Truth,’ a Jew?”
    Hard to say, I can’t find anything on it.
    Either way, it really doesn’t matter, she works for the Jews.
    Head of Homeland Security, Alejandro Mayorkas, her boss, is a Jew.
    Robert Silvers, Undersecretary for Strategy & Policy at DHS, who chairs the Disinformation Board, is also a Jew.
    The Advisory Council for Homeland Security is packed with Jews.
    Michael Chertoff, Jane Harmon, Ted Schlein, Michael Masters, Safra Catz, a dual citizen of Israel and America, Dmitri Alperovitch of the notorious CrowdStrike, Noah Bookbinder, Jamie Gorelick, and more Yids than you can shake a schtick at.
    They’re ’schtick’ is to muzzle every goy.
    Creating a scenario of self-censorship for the goyim for fear of losing their jobs, their social credit, and their bank accounts, is the aim of the Jew-enabled ‘Ministry of Truth.’

    Third Question.
    “Can America be saved?”
    Some say America is doomed.
    The Jews own and control the media, Hollywood, politics, academics—(Randi Weingarten, a Jew lesbian, heads up the American Federation of Teachers)—and huge endowments to colleges by Jews gives them dictating powers.
    Collectively they’ve been grooming the next generation for the past two decades to hate Christianity, hate and snub American history, engage in weird fantasies, strange sex, confused minds, perverse habits, with no capacity to think critically.
    Does this bode well for America’s future?
    If it were up to the Jews, America will merge into a global glob controlled by the Rothschild Dynasty and its agents at home beginning with the FED.
    Yet, why do Jews get all shook up whenever some truth squeaks through the cracks?
    They must have censorship because their house of cards burns down in the light of truth.
    Their power is unjust and unrighteous.
    It’s not built on the rock of Christian morality and the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ.
    Only righteousness can fight unrighteousness.
    Righteous Americans, what’s left of them, must stand up to the Jews.

    Fourth Question.
    “Why are you always begging for money?”
    Some people call me controlled opposition.
    Fact is, my Videos have no advertisements and are never sponsored.
    I’m at complete liberty to speak the truth.
    And I rely on my viewers for support.
    I’ve been banned by PayPiss, Donor Box, Go F’ Me, Patreon, Click & Pledge, Network for Good, Subscribe Star, and tons more.
    Then I’ve been banned by JewTube, Rense.com, Vimeo, deranked by Jewgle, and of late, censored by Brighteon.
    I hang on to the fact that my Vids are supported by my viewers like you.

    Fifth Question.
    “What makes you an expert on Jewish affairs?”
    I grew up in the Synagogue, went to Hebrew School, and Sabbath School from early childhood.
    I remember my dad taking me to a B’nai B’rith meeting after Sabbath School.
    B’nai B’rith, by the way, is a billion dollar global Jewish Group that has many subsidiaries like the ADL.
    At the meeting, the speaker was listing candidates of the next elections.
    The question was, “Which candidate will be good for the Jews?”
    NOT, “Which candidate will be good the country?”
    I became an American patriot, not a Jewish one, ever since.

    Sixth Question.
    “You talked about a new Hitler arising.
    “Do you favor a final solution?”
    I said if a new Hitler arises it’s because Jews bait and egg him on.
    There has to be a strong leader who won’t take crap from the Jews.
    Homosexuality first has to be dealt with.
    It’s a cancer, pushed by Jews, that rots society from within by destroying the Gentile family unit–the core and center of responsible civil action.
    With White kids now buying into and tolerating ‘gay lifestyles,’ the White race with its Christian roots and consensus seems fated to fall away.
    The plethora of minorities the Yids are bringing in makes it inevitable that only one group rises to the top, Jews.
    Couple all of this with our financial system making it almost impossible for young marrieds to buy a home, our Jewish media pushing miscegenation, and inflation necessitating two working parents with the result of the Christian-hating state raising their children.

    Seventh Question.
    Why does the US government rag on Russia so much?
    Because the US government is run by Jews, that’s why.
    The State Department is run by three Jews at its head with a maniacal hatred of Russia:
    Anthony Blinken, Victoria Kagan Nudelman, and Wendy Sherman.
    You see, Russia has historically been a Christian country guided by the Orthodox concept of “Symphony of Church and State.”
    This, the Jews won’t stand for, since it sidelines the Jew from power.
    And they’re heavily triggered that Russia does not go along with their homosexual agenda.
    In Russia, exposing homosexuality to youth is a crime strictly punished.
    The media there is thus restrained.
    A Russian priest who lives there told me a while back that Europe sent a bunch of ‘gays’ to Moscow to do a ‘Pride Parade.’
    The Russian cops stood by and watched as Russian men beat the crap out of them.
    The ‘gays’ all black and blue were then hauled off to jail.
    Russian society upholds Christian morality, cherishes its Russian history, and both are taught in its public schools.
    Can we say the same for Jewmerica?

    Last Question.
    “Why is it always the Jews doing bad things?
    “Why do they subvert and undermine the countries they live in?
    “Why do they use their power to deliberately erode the society they are entrusted with protecting?
    “Is it in their upbringing?
    “Is there some king Jew that gives orders to the rest of them?
    “Is it the teachings of the Talmud?
    “Or is it simply part of their genetics?”
    Look.
    Jews act collectively.
    That’s why there’s hundreds of Jewish organizations addressing the very same issues and pushing for very same Jew-agenda policies.
    The collective mind of the Jew is destructive.
    Once they committed the heinous crime of crucifying Jesus Christ and continue to maintain their identity as Jews, no good can come of them.
    There’s no such thing as a “good Jew,” it’s an oxymoron.
    The Talmud teaches the Jew to look upon the goy as subhuman and destined to serve him.
    Is it coded in the Jew’s DNA?
    After 2,000 years of hatred for Christ and hatred for the goyim, I’d say there is a genetic factor influencing Jewish bad behavior.
    Only righteousness can fight unrighteousness.
    Righteous Americans, what’s left of them, must stand up to the Jews.

    • Thanks: John Wear, Truth Vigilante
  448. @Fran Taubman

    Well, Fran, you answered the question loud and clear.

    You are not, nor have ewver been interestedd in pursuing “the honest search for truth” that you claim because you entirely avoided the issue of exhuming the victims to be found at Babi Yar and estasblishing exactly how many victims are buried there.

    Doing that would be engagining in “the honest search for truth.”

    You fear that pursuit because, I guess, you know where it would lead, and it is that truth that holocausat denial lass are enactred to suppress.

    There is nothing more you can say about this that I will pay attention to unless you subscribe to exhuming the victims at Babi Yar and pinning down exactly how many there are.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  449. Al Liguori says: • Website

    When (((liars))) and (((murderers))) rule…

  450. @Colin Wright

    What do you think of Davies?

    Norman Davies is known as an out and out Poland apologist. He’s married to a Polish woman, but more importantly he hates the Germans so …
    Not the right choice for an unbiased analysis.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  451. Marcali says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You write: “The same with the statement the Jews declared war on Germany After the Nuremberg laws which stripped away citizenship from the Jews, the Jews did declare war.”

    How come?

    “Judea Declares War on Germany! Jews of all the World Unite! Boycott of German Goods!
    Mass Demonstrations!” – These were all headlines in the Daily Express on March 24, 1933.

    Nuremberg Laws declared on September 15, 1935.

    Which came first by two and a half years?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  452. @Carolyn Yeager

    ‘Norman Davies is known as an out and out Poland apologist. He’s married to a Polish woman, but more importantly he hates the Germans so …
    Not the right choice for an unbiased analysis.’

    I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re right — but is there a better choice?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  453. @turtle

    ‘…Given those circumstances, how many ordinary people are likely to criticize the government? Not many, I suspect. Yet many did, and paid with their lives…’

    I largely agree with your characterization otherwise, but here, I don’t.

    My reading suggests that if you weren’t already a member of a suspect group — like a former Communist — and you started shooting off your mouth, what would happen is more like the following.

    Some good-thinker would inform on you, and the Gestapo would call you in for a talk. Quaking in your boots, and with visions of six months in Dachau dancing in your head, you’d show up. You and the urbane but firm interrogator would agree that there wasn’t going to be any more of this nonsense — and you’d go home!

    To cite one extreme example, after a 1943 bombing of Essen, somebody snapped, and started going through the streets, screaming curses at Hitler and the Nazis in general. Well, of course he was arrested.

    However, he was contrite, and everyone agreed he’d been a good German up to this point. And he had had an awful night. He wound up being released. Don’t try this at home, folks, but…

    • Thanks: turtle
  454. @Wielgus

    ‘…Organising the International Brigades often depended on the Communist parties in various countries, they often sought volunteers from among their younger and healthier members and it is not so surprising that these tended to reflect the ethnic composition of the parties.’

    It would be interesting to look into to what extent the International Brigades were simply a Communist Party project, and to what extent they reflected wider enthusiasm.

    In retrospect, we’ve fallen victim to that tendency to turn everything into a moral fable, with all the good guys on one side, and all the bad guys on the other. So the Republicans were good, ergo the International Brigades were good, ergo all good people were for them.

    But was that actually the case? Particularly when it comes to the Spanish Civil War, I don’t actually see the moral case for either side as being all that clear — and that may well have been the general sentiment at the time. After all, most countries refused to arm either party.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  455. geokat62 says:

    Telegram comment posted by Andrew Joyce:

    Funny how before diversity made us stronger there was less crime, better wages, affordable homes, better healthcare, rigorous education, less social angst, no issues of integration, no fixation on “racism,” more national confidence, and grooming just meant personal hygiene.

    • Thanks: Carolyn Yeager, John Wear
  456. @Fran Taubman

    Millions of witnesses doesn’t sound plausible. But where you really undermine your case is in this

    The concentration camp liberators of 3 countries witnessed and photographs the systematic gassing and murder of the Jews. British, Russian and American al tell the same story. Not one concentration camp liberator has ever come forward and said that it was made up, a lie.

    The first sentence is totally barmy. How is it possible that British and American “liberators” could possibly have witnessed let alone photographed gasings? When? Where,?

    Indeed Auschwicz was largely demolished and was abandoned before the Russians got there.

    Furthermore none of the camps were liberated by Americans and Brits before 1945 and none of them were extermination camps

    • Agree: John Wear, JackOH
  457. @turtle

    It is worth keeping in mind that, by that time, Germany was ruled by a rather vicious absolute dictatorship, which had consolidated its power by murdering its political enemies (Night of the Long Knives) and incarcerating many others. In that regard, it behaved similarly to various other thuggish regimes throughout history …

    Wow. You are the vicious one. This entire comment is one hateful misleading interpretation of history after another. For instance:

    Why not call ‘Operation Hummingbird’ by its true name rather than the enemy slang term ‘Night of the Long Knives?’ How many such operations to stop treasonous activity have been carried out by nations you would not call “thuggish?” I would say it would be every nation!

    On the “thuggishness” of concentration camps: These camps (you mention Dachau) were just prisons in the form of camps. They were more transparent than stone fortresses used to imprison people in most other countries. Do you know what goes on in the prisons of what you consider ‘non-thuggish’ countries in the West? Of course you don’t, but that doesn’t stop you from your unreasonable hatred for one man – Adolf Hitler. What I don’t know is where it comes from.

    You ask, Were people murdered there (in KZL Dachau)? You answer yourself “Absolutely.” I say you are absolutely wrong about that. You’re required to say who was murdered and how.

    You end with “There is something fundamentally twisted about a regime which incarcerates the head (Fritz Thyssen) of its second largest steel manufacturer.”

    Well, Fritz Thyssen was not incarcerated until 1943 in Sachsenhausen camp close to Berlin, a camp especially intended to hold political dissidents mostly of the communist variety, never alleged to have a “gas chamber.” This was after many years of Thyssen being at odds with the NS administration, mainly over the war. He began his objections in 1935 already by criticizing what he called the NS “persecution of the Catholic Church.” Ridiculous! In 1937 he decided ‘Christians’ were being persecuted and protested that. In 1938 he accepted the Allied version of what was dubbed the “Kristallnacht Pogram”and resigned from the Prussian Council of State in protest. Then in 1939 he voiced his objections to the government’s economic plan, specifically the rearmament program. After Sept. 1, ’39, Thyssen sent Hermann Goering a telegram that he was opposed to the war.

    After what is known to have happened to destroy the confidence and will to fight at the end of WWI (with factory shutdowns and labor stoppages), should the Hitler government have let such disgruntled factory owners threaten Germany’s ability to wage war now? Were they a suicidal government? It only made sense to nationalize his company. He was also expelled from the NSDAP and the Reichstag of which he had been a member.

    But it was not until 1940, as he was in the process of moving to France from Belgium, intending to emigrate to Argentina, that he was arrested and confined first in a sanatorium. Only in 1943 was he placed in Sachsenhausen before being transferred to Dachau in ’45, which was then being used to house VIPs who were left there to be liberated by the Allies.
    If you can call this vicious treatment, what do you call the US’s treatment of dissidents?

    In 1948, Thyssen was tried by the Allies for being a supporter of the NSDAP and fined one and a half million dollars in today’s money (500,000 DM) for ‘mistreatment of Jewish employees’ — as compensation for Jewish suffering as they safely survived the war. Oy vey.

    I didn’t expect this comment to be so long, but it just grew on its own.

    • Replies: @John Wear
  458. @Colin Wright

    What do you mean, ‘you wouldn’t be surprised.’ It’s an out and out fact. Find out for yourself!

    My choice would be “Poland from the Inside” by Bertram de Colonna https://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/polandinside/pfi00.html

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  459. @Carolyn Yeager

    ‘My choice would be “Poland from the Inside” by Bertram de Colonna https://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/polandinside/pfi00.html’

    Thanks for the link; but it remains to be seen if your source would be an improvement. The author:

    ‘Count Bertram Jamie Alphonso Lopez de Vere COLONNA, alias Bernhard CLAUSSEN: British. COLONNA first came to notice in 1937 as a German propagandist based in Berlin and later in Copenhagen and Madrid and the author of many letters to British newspapers, many of them on the file. By 1943 he was also reported to be engaged in espionage for the Germans’

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  460. anarchyst says:
    @thotmonger

    To this day, it is illegal for the U. S. Department of Commerce (which conducts the census every 10 years) to identify and count jews.
    Why??
    *Gentile whites are counted and classified…
    *Hispanics are counted and classified…
    *Asians are counted and classified by country of ethnicity…
    *Blacks are counted and classified…
    …There’s more…
    A person who wishes to become a naturalized citizen of the United States of America must formally revoke his foreign citizenship and surrender any foreign passports to the U. S. State Department as a condition of receiving and accepting U. S. citizenship…
    …all except for ONE country…israel…
    Jews are not required to follow the above conditions to achieve U. S. citizenship. Jews are not required to renounce their foreign citizenship. Jews may hold foreign (israeli) passports without restrictions.
    Why the double standard?
    It is no secret that many federal, state, and local government officials and employees hold “dual citizenship” with israel.
    One cannot serve two masters…
    It is long overdue for the USA to prohibit “dual citizenship” across the board.

    • Agree: turtle, John Wear
    • Thanks: Orville H. Larson
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @turtle
  461. John Wear says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    You write: “You ask, Were people murdered there (in KZL Dachau)? You answer yourself ‘Absolutely.’ I say you are absolutely wrong about that. You’re required to say who was murdered and how.”

    My response: While I agree with most of your lengthy post, I do not agree with you on this point.

    Dachau was a center of some illegal medical experiments against its inmates. Some of these inmates were killed in the process, and the doctors performing the experiments knew that some inmates would die from their medical experiments.

    Probably the worst medical experiments at Dachau were performed by Dr. Sigmund Rascher. You can read the article I wrote about Dr. Rascher at https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/13/4/8110.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  462. @Colin Wright

    The question is, Colin, who wrote that description of Colonna. You’ve left out where it comes from. Shame on you, but not surprising.

    I also recommend just reading it, and seeing if it sounds like one-sided propaganda. At least the first few chapters. They’re not long.

  463. @John Wear

    You are full of it, John, and I’ve told you this before. I would not read your articles to discover the truth; there are much better sources of information. All you do is copy from a selection of books — to the point that hardly a single sentence is actually written by you.
    Not everyone’s view of the medical experiments at Dachau conforms to yours. Mine does not and I have researched it and written about it somewhere. And, again, all you know is what you take from someone else’s book — no original research. You yourself don’t know.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Troll: anarchyst
    • Replies: @John Wear
  464. @Marcali

    Nuremberg Laws declared on September 15, 1935.

    Which came first by two and a half years?

    You are so lazy just google it. When did Mein Kampf come out? Enough shit was coming down that every Jew in the world was begging their respective countries to come down on Germany. Powerful Jews whispering in the ears of political figures. You bet. Then the 1939 speech where Hitler calls for the end, the wipe out of European Jewry.

    What was Hitler thinking? That he was going to get away with mass murder. People may have not liked the Jews but they disliked Hitler more, realizing that after the Jews who is next. Hitler was a mad man and when the Germans realized it, it was too late.

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-this-day-jews-start-boycott-of-nazis-1.5336433

    • Replies: @Al Liguori
    , @Marcali
  465. John Wear says:
    @Carolyn Yeager

    You write: “Not everyone’s view of the medical experiments at Dachau conforms to yours. Mine does not and I have researched it and written about it somewhere.”

    My response: When a doctor such as Dr. Sigmund Rascher conducts medical experiments which he knows will kill some of the people he is experimenting on, how is this not murder?

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
  466. @The Old Philosopher

    There is nothing more you can say about this that I will pay attention to unless you subscribe to exhuming the victims at Babi Yar and pinning down exactly how many there are.

    Oh please OP, you are so disingenuous you are not after the truth. You think Jews did 9/11. No matter how much evidence there was it would not be enough for you. The typography has changed. It was a deep ravine that had mud slides was filled in and apartment buildings stand on it. There are some photos, but nothing that would satisfy you. Here are some photos from the 1960’s

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    Babi-Yar1.-The-Emmanuel-Amik-Diamant-Collection-the-Central-Archives-for-the-History-of-the-Jewish-People-at-the-National-Library-of-Israel-1024x640

    • Replies: @The Old Philosopher
  467. Al Liguori says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    You obfuscate “cause” and “effect.” It is no accident that you and the rest of Satan’s tribe invert the timeline. You are demonstrated to be a habitual liar exactly as Chabad teaches you. Chabad’s intentionally deceitful cover story: “…Chabad on the inside.” https://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2012/03/noahide-proselytizing-rabbi-riskin.html

    CAUSE: All the killing that Jews had done for 2 millennia in Europe, including centuries of ritual murders, well-poisonings, usury, tax farming, murder-for-hire, sex slavery, child prostitution, physician poisonings, 18-20th century revolutions, and 1933 declaration of war on Germany.
    EFFECT: Justice. —Nuremberg Laws and work camps to make use of the declared internal enemies.

    Meanwhile you tell people what direction to sit on the toilet.