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Covid-19 May Have Originated in US Biolab – Lancet Commission Chair
Jeffrey Sachs, who chairs Covid-19 commission at the prestigious medical journal, has claimed the deadly virus did not come out of nature
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Covid-19 did not come out of some natural reservoir but rather “out of US lab biotechnology” in an accident, world-renowned economist and author Jeffrey Sachs has claimed, speaking at a conference hosted by the GATE Center think tank in Spain in mid-June.

While introducing this “provocative statement,” Sachs suggested that he was in the loop, as he chairs the Covid-19 commission at prestigious medical journal The Lancet.

So it’s a blunder, in my view, of biotech, not an accident of a natural spillover,” he reiterated.

The academic noted that while “we don’t know for sure” if this is the case, there is “enough evidence” pointing to this, which “should be looked into.” Sachs lamented that this version is, however, “not being investigated, not in the United States, not anywhere.

Back in May, Sachs, along with Columbia University professor of molecular pharmacology and therapeutics Neil Harrison, penned an article in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggesting Covid-19 had originated in a laboratory. In the paper, the two academics called for greater transparency on the part of US federal agencies and universities, arguing that a lot of pertinent evidence was not disclosed.

Virus databases, biological samples, viral sequences, email communications, and laboratory notebooks could all help shed light on the pandemic origin, according to Sachs and Harrison. However, none of these materials had been subjected to “independent, transparent, and scientific scrutiny,” they argued.

As an indicator that Covid 19 had originated from a laboratory, the authors brought up the fact that a sequence of eight amino acids on a critical part of the virus’s spike protein is similar to an amino acid sequence found in cells that line human airways.

In fact, Sachs is not the first one to suggest that the deadly virus had not occurred naturally.

While there is no conclusive evidence that would trace Covid-19’s origin beyond a reasonable doubt, the World Health Organization (WHO) concluded in February 2021 that it had most likely been transmitted from an animal, possibly a bat, to humans.

The highly contagious virus was first identified in Wuhan, China, in late 2019. It then quickly spread globally, with several waves claiming millions of lives by May 2022, according to the WHO.

(Republished from RT by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Ron Unz says:

    As the RT piece mentions, Prof. Jeffrey Sachs had chaired the original Lancet commission that had concluded that Covid was probably a natural virus, so his complete reversal on this issue is absolutely stunning yet has been entirely ignored by the American MSM. I’d discussed this development in a column a couple of weeks ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/an-independent-inquiry-into-the-american-origins-of-covid/

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

    I’ve also presented the strong perhaps even overwhelming evidence that the Covid outbreak was an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran) in a number of video interviews, which have now accumulated well over a half-million views on Rumble. Here are the three most popular ones:



    Video Link



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    Video Link

  2. Notsofast says:

    ….. entirely ignored by the american msm…..standard operating procedure of the mockingbird media for dealing with inconvenient truths that may emerge, ignore the question, ignore the person asking the question, simply pretend they don’t exist. with the mockingbird media ignorance is job one.

    • Replies: @Doug Ryler
  3. Can you post RT on the twitter? I know they have been kicked off the youtube.

    • Replies: @Justrambling
  4. There is no way ever that the American media would take up this story.

    If China does make a move on Taiwan, I do predict that the next day our Administration’s talking point will be the confirmation that COVID-19 came from the Wuhan Lab.

    • Agree: Rev. Spooner
  5. anon[273] • Disclaimer says:

    They’ve had the technology for this since at least 2002: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2002086068A2/ru

    “The present invention relates to methods of producing recombinant nidovirus vectors, particularly coronavirus vectors, and expressing heterologous genes from said vectors.”

    A “replication defective coronavirus” with partly artificial genes and increased infectiousness is by definition a bioweapon. Solves the little problem of blowback.

  6. IronForge says:

    Fort Dietrich. 2019.

    Any FOIAs on this yet?

    • Replies: @xcd
  7. I have always thought Ralph Baric gets too little credit for his contribution

    • Agree: michael888
    • LOL: Iris
  8. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s weird how Tucker Carlson and the Fox News/Newsmax conservatives are really invested in pushing the China lab theory. It’s the MAGA-right’s version of Russia collusion.

    • Agree: nosquat loquat
  9. RobinG says:

    Why is this ‘economist’ the chair of the Covid-19 commission? Raising the ‘possibility’ of an accident seems like a limited hangout.

    • Replies: @_oldtimer_
    , @_oldtimer__
  10. Atle says:

    It’s hard to think of what Jews may have thought of to be gained by introducing Covid to an unsuspecting world, other than promoting their strange prediliction for musicals.

  11. W says:

    I notice a lack of articles about the unexpected and sudden deaths.

    What gives Ron?

    • Replies: @Reggie
  12. @Ron Unz

    Isshi Mitsui was the go to guy at Fort Detrick and had had excellent results in Harbin at Unit 731 Harbin War Criminal for sure BUT was not executed. Mitsui was dispatched to Fort Detrick–given a hig financial inducement and led a team of misfits. In 5 years time their Fort Detrick biological weapons were dropped over North Korea labelled as Gift. Now considering it was Spring Festival in China and earlier the Military Games and USA sent the Largest military team of invited nations and FOX CNN knew within 1 minute of the first breakouts it was ——- Wetmarket Wuhan BAT —-things are easy to figure out since USA closed Fort Detrick just prior to this occurrence —amazing sets of coincidents indeed.

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @Agentinslacks
  13. GMC says:

    Rossiyskaya Gazeta – RIA –Ru. ” the Who says there is a high probability that monkey pox could spread to Russia” the Committee, the World Health Organization for Emergencies has recognized the ” extreme nature ” of the current situation. In other words – our Lugar BioWeapons Lab in Georgia is still up and running .

    Hopefully, the Russian military give WHO a return comment that states that their Cruise missiles in the Caspian Sea are still up and running – Too.

    • Replies: @Notsofast
  14. Levtraro says:

    As the RT piece mentions, Prof. Jeffrey Sachs had chaired the original Lancet commission that had concluded that Covid was probably a natural virus, so his complete reversal on this issue is absolutely stunning yet has been entirely ignored by the American MSM.

    Not covered in Europe either. He was talking in Madrid, Sachs was openly saying that COVID started as a US biolab leak, it’s big news, and yet no coverage at all, at least that I know of.

    The video is worth watching during Sach’s introductory talk (after that they start to speak in Spanish). He blames the US govt for most of the conflicts and failures of policy in the world. He talks about the origin of COVID-19, the war in Ukraine (blaming NATO expansion eastward), the confrontational stance against China, the sowing of divisions in Asia and LatAm, the challenges of climate change. Interestingly, he says that the US govt is trying to re-enact all the conflicts that the British empire created to maintain hegemony. It’s like the current US+vassals self-imagined position is a much shorter and weaker version of the British empire.

    • Agree: Cauchemar du Singe
  15. I concur, which will no doubt please Sachs, the ‘hero’ of the Free Market rape of the Soviet Union, no end. I differ, however, in that I am convinced that it was NO ‘accident’, but a deliberate germ warfare attack on China by the greatest force for Evil in all history, the ruling US elites.

  16. Yes this has been established as fact.
    https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/lab-leak-theory-new-article-shows?utm_source=url
    And Modena had a hand in it OR they were trillion to one lucky to have a opposite match when they filed in 2017 a patent regarding sars covid which had never been seem before ( at that time ) and would only be tagged as a Covid in late 2019.- which miraculously came about in Wuhan.
    No room here either regarding if a lab leak was intentional. The actual place of release says exactly who did this…..The US… no doubt!

  17. barr says:

    This virus is US-China-Switzertalnd baby .

  18. Ron, you have already said in your first linked piece , referring to Sachs and Harrison

    Although the two authors are careful to avoid touching upon the central thesis of my own articles, their analysis is entirely consistent with that framework.

    Hmm. The unnecessarily tendentious [scil.”careful to avoid”] followed by probable truth. But let it be noted that there could be, and most likely are, plenty of reasons from covering up the involvement of Americans in relevant research and the financing of it.

    I hope you concede that this may be a desirable development but adds nothing to the evidence for your theory at this stage unless a small shift in the weight of evidence towards a lab produced virus counts.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  19. JackOH says:

    Well, I’ve already registered my support for an authoritative inquiry into Ron’s theory, as I understand it, that COVID-19 may have been the result of a semi-governmental criminal enterprise gone haywire.

    I think it’s worth noting we’ve had no authoritative inquiry at all, as far as I know, into America’s handling of COVID-19, which has put us among the 20 worst performing nations (per 100,000 population). Worse than Mexico. Far worse than Canada.

    My guess is America’s medical establishment will push back behind the scenes on any investigation into Ron’s theory for fear an investigation will turn into a fishing expedition that exposes how our medical lobbies have stitched up the distribution of health care to serve their own purposes.

  20. shahnameh says:

    Jeffrey Sachs of HIID with Jonathan Hay and Prof Andrei Schleifer, that Jeffrey Sachs? Janine Wedel wrote How the Harvard Boys did Russia, this is the same guy that helped Russia establish capital markets Right? Hard for the US to remember 1990s.

    • Replies: @Pure Coincidence
  21. cranc says:

    ‘…a statement made by Peter Daszak in 2015, and reported in the National Academies Press on February 12, 2016, in which he declared: ‘We need to increase public understanding of the need for medical counter-measures such as a pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics will follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage, to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of the process.’

    Daszak- as anyone will know who has been reading widely on Covid (not Ron, I think), was formerly appointed by the Lancet to head the inquiry into the origins of the virus, later pulling out because, he, erm, was quite obviously involved in the development of weaponised coronaviruses and associated projects at Wuhan.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/twenty-year-genetic-trail-behind-covids-creation-3/

    Still I am sure it was all a big mistake, a ‘blowback’ if you like, just like 911, that just happened to fulfil the predictions and aspirations of those who ‘made the mistakes’, just like 911….
    I am sure that if that commission headed by Zelikow gets off the ground they will get to the root of it all, just as they did with ….um..911.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    , @Wokechoke
  22. @Ron Unz

    Thanks for your stance on this (further) US govt attack on the world.
    Particularly one might say on those that zionists consider enemies.

    This statement by Sachs, although “stunning” as you say, looks like damage-control.

    Lancet, once a prestigious/reliable source, is sliding in the direction of being just another “authority” for hire, like other UK institutions.
    The truth is in your position; there was nothing accidental in the release of cv19, it was a deliberate act by USA. As this becomes plain, especially as the Russians follow up publicly on the US biolabs in Ukr, there is need by the USA for back-pedalling, some concessions.

    Sachs/Lancet provide this for them, unless I have mistaken the intent.
    Medium to long term this latest US position will be untenable.
    Globally things are unwinding catastrophically for USA/judeo-mason bankster west.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  23. Anon[131] • Disclaimer says:

    Given the ongoing revelations of the Ukrainian Bioweaoons labs, it’s a easy to conclude Covid was a Bioweapon.

    The Chinese reaction to Covid certainly points there. The Chinese treated Covid as a bioweaoon attack.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  24. Just wondering when if ever westerners, especially it seems Americans, will cease regarding their “newspapers” and tv as sources worthy of respect.

    On the one hand cognizant that the media is owned by (((interested parties))) yet on the other quoting this or that “anchor” as if what s/he says is worthy of notice.
    Just to say that the western media is more or less worthy only of contempt.

    Always get a second opinion.
    Here for example is an alternative —

    DPR brings charges against another two British mercenaries

    https://dan-news.info/en/society/dpr-brings-charges-against-another-two-british-mercenaries/

  25. @Ron Unz

    The original virus was natural. It was being used at UNC Chapel Hill until gain of function studies were outlawed in the US, and for very good reason. Fauci then has them package everything up and it was then sent to Wuhan, along with the laundered funding to continue the research.

    It was obvious from the beginning the virus had been engineered as there were genetic combinations that do not occur naturally. Were the changes made in UNC or Wuhan? We don’t know yet, but we do know the virus escaped captivity in Wuhan.

    What you are calling “strong evidence” isn’t.

    • Replies: @Bombercommand
    , @Jeff Davis
  26. @RobinG

    He didn’t say that it was an accident (a leak) from a lab. Only the original RT article made the implication that it was an accident. Watch the video again closely. He only says that it came out of (came from) a U.S. bio-lab. Of course he can’t just come right out and say directly that it was biowarfare from the U.S. because such a statement would be simply too verboten, but he’s walking on a knife’s edge here. One would simply have to use his brain a little to come to the inference that it was a bio-attack.

    • Thanks: RobinG
  27. MEH 0910 says:

    https://unherd.com/2022/06/what-happened-to-the-lab-leak-hypothesis/

    https://dailysceptic.org/2022/06/27/an-interview-with-matt-ridley/

  28. Baker and Wade had nice articles noting the human features of SARS-CoV2 structure, that take years/ decades to evolve in humans and do not spring readily formed from bats or other animals (no infected animals were found in Wuhan wet markets, unlike previous zoomotic diseases). Although heavily censored, many dissenting scientists focused on the critical furin cleavage site (often spliced in to grow viruses quicker in cell culture) missing from betacoronaviruses in the same clade as SAR-CoV2, which in theory could recombine genes; the codons for a double arginine appeared “human” rather than “standard” bat virus codons. The clincher of course, was the frantic meetings between Fauci, Collins and a host of NIAID-funded virologists, where they came to a “consensus” agreement that Covid was natural, and they were NOT responsible for the 6.36 million deaths due to this GOF virus. They continued to interfere (self-defense) contributing mightily to the US having the highest number of Covid victims in the world (50% more than Brazil, second worst).
    The worst RATES (per million people) are mostly in Slavic-rich populations in Eastern Europe.
    Surely a coincidence. The US is not creating bioweapons in Eastern Europe, right?

    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
  29. KenH says:

    I don’t think there’s any doubt that COVID-19 came from a lab and it’s possible the U.S. was involved somehow but the evidence is circumstantial. And if the U.S. was involved partly or wholly then no doubt there is a Jewish angle.

  30. If you look at the anger of the leaders of the Untied States ( Biden ” Putin is a murderer!, the venom of Blinken ) and their desire to dominate the world at all costs, you can not but conclude that Covid-19 might have originated in America.

    Allegations of biological warfare in the Korean War – Wikipedia

    Allegations that the United States military used biological weapons in the Korean War (June 1950 – July 1953) were raised by the governments of People’s Republic of China, the Soviet Union, and North Korea. The claims were first raised in 1951.

    What is the next desperate step of Biden and Blinken ? Answer : Push the world into a nuclear Holocaust. The current US aggression on Russia and the whole world is a continuation of the ugly and immoral Covid-19 experiment on humanity.

    Someone ( from the Unz family here ) stated : Russia is fighting for all of us. That is true. The Chinese are also doing their share to protect the human civilization on earth. God bless both Russia and China.

    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
  31. @shahnameh

    I asked the same question. Maybe Jeff has moved on to fight promotion.

  32. @Emil Nikola Richard

    Try the app. Easy to install here in the Philippines. RT is not without a caveat though. Two of my posts under different usernames, on different stories were deleted. Surprise, surprise, both were critical of Israel. Just a couple of days ago, I decided to uninstall the app. Still lost for sources of credible information. UR may be a blessing, but it’s not without its own problems though. Still, it’s my preferred website.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @mulga mumblebrain
    , @Iris
  33. @Ron Unz

    Yes you were are are on the right track Ron. Know that I also am a very smart guy like you and have studied the subject for decades and it was obvious immediately to me what was going on. There are so many confirming details, my favorite being the announcement immediately after Trump’s first speech on Covid19 that Tom Hanks had it.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Mefobills
  34. Now comes the dark knight, Jeffrey Sachs, the one of how to screw Russians out of their money to benefit his fellow Tribesmen fame to tell US that America is guilty of crime as it relates to Covid-19. Cui Bono? Has the Judaist made a deal with China for mutual benefits? It sure seems like it now that they’re running the West into the ground. Oy vey!

  35. A country that has killed more innocents than the rest of the world combined after WWII, that has utterly destroyed once prosperous countries, for no reason; a country that has used agent orange, depleted uranium bombs, killed civilians in wedding and funeral processions, bombed hospitals, frozen funds of one of the world’s poorest countries, Afghanistan, opened Guantanamo for holding persons for decades without charge or trial; a country whose doctors experimented with the syphilis microbe on its own citizens along with Guatemalans and allowed the disease to follow its course even after antibiotics became available; should such a country require definitive proof on exporting and disseminating Covid=19? Just asking.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Donald A Thomson
  36. @Notsofast

    Covid 19 was made in Apartheid Israhell. As usual, the Jewish elite, via Jew Jeffrey Sachs, is blaming their American slave.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2020/03/07/the-dirty-secrets-behind-covid-19/

  37. @GomezAdddams

    There were 2 million little bomblets filled with Anthrax paste all set and ready to be dropped over Japan in case the A bombs were not up to snuff. Churchill says in one of his books that similar things were in store for Germany in 1919 had they not surrendered in November 1918. The bullets used by the agents who shot Reinhard Heydrich were covered with toxins. Isshi was unique scum of the earth and he did work for the US as you say, I only mean to point out that western bio and chemical warfare had its own origins.

    • Thanks: GomezAdddams
  38. Why now? Timing of events is always fascinating.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @Iris
  39. Realist says:
    @Anon

    It’s weird how Tucker Carlson and the Fox News/Newsmax conservatives are really invested in pushing the China lab theory. It’s the MAGA-right’s version of Russia collusion.

    Not so much weird as predictable. Carlson is, as many have said, controlled opposition.

    • Troll: Charon
  40. Covid-19 is a myth, an illusion , concocted by the zionist communist demons at the Rockefeller Foundation and the Gates Foundation and the WEF and the WHO and the other demons in control of the UN with their UN Agenda 2030 play book, covid-19 is the flu, and colds and pneumonia renamed, to scare the people into taking the genocide MRNA injections to help cull the herd.

    Depopulation and a one world zionist controlled government is the name of the game. Covid-19 is the biggest scam and psyop in the history of the world.

  41. The simple unavoidable fact remains that there is just ONE sole exercise which can successfully reveal the truth of COVID-19 – undoubtedly the greatest event in human history:

    I .. N .. V .. E .. S .. T .. I .. G .. A .. T .. E

  42. MGB says:

    Jeezus. ‘Professor’ Sachs? He might as well have a PhD in medieval catholic cosmology. Anyone who takes this shit stain at face value needs their head examined. He got his marching orders, no doubt, even if the end game isn’t immediately apparent. The only relevant question in this context is, ‘what is he up to?’

  43. @Desert Fox

    Maybe I’m missing something but I have yet to see where the foundation of this pandemic; the PCR “test” has been proven NOT to be a fraud.

  44. @Desert Fox

    A lot right with your comment – the program to reduce population is real and vaccines will be in the toolbox and almost certainly these current mRNa are a trial run. But it is also part of the ongoing biowar project.

    The archbishop of Canterbury of the Church of England, about a decade ago advocated for euthenasia publicly. If you don’t see that as an indication that a cull is being actively promoted, then I would suggest reconsidering. At the same time, Martin Amis, that cruel wordsmith of a sadist who went around with Tony Blair pushing war, announced how free death booths should be setup throughout major cities wherein one could get oneself a nice double shot.of whiskey from a dispenser to go with your lethal injection. For those over 60, he said.

    I have a vastly wealthy Harvard and Princeton educated retired corporate lawyer cousin who only hangs around with the elitest of elites and smarty-pants from Harvard. All they talk about is global warming and how the Earth’s population must be drastically reduced in the near future. It’s not idle talk. They’re quite serious. And they see nothing illiberal or inhumane about it. In fact they’d be shocked if you questioned whether or not they are humanitarian in outlook. They firmly believe they are fabulously good people. In fact, they very probably have an excellent point were it not for one thing. The people they desire to eliminate on a vast unprecedented scale contribute proportionately a small amount to the balance of emissions responsible for global warming.

    • Replies: @Desert Fox
    , @GomezAdddams
  45. Mefobills says:
    @MEH 0910

    Ridley says this at the link you provided:

    https://dailysceptic.org/2022/06/27/an-interview-with-matt-ridley/

    Because it is against their interests. Scientists do not want to admit that mistakes might have been made by fellow scientists, lest it lead to scepticism of biotechnology, mistrust of science and more regulation of virus experiments. (I share these concerns, but think refusal to be open minded will do even more harm to the reputation of science.) Environmentalists want this episode to be a cautionary tale about rainforest destruction even though southern China is rapidly reforesting. Scientific journals are partly dependent on Chinese funding so are wary of saying anything that might annoy Chinese colleagues.

    To reduce it down to two sentences:

    Scientists have Hubris, and will not bite the hand that feeds. China is reforesting because it has Sovereign Money Power, and can channel its state credit into the commons.

    The U.S. converted to Atlantacism starting in 1912, and it took two world wars to fully insert Atlantacism as the dominant control mechanism. Behind Atlantacism is finance capitalism, or rule by markets and the investor class.

    String pullers in the Finance Capitalist West, are the vested interests. These vested interests have Hubris themselves; and at the top of the hidden pyramid, they are psychopaths. About 4% of the population are psychopaths, and there are a large number of sociopaths in the population as well. So it should be no surprise, that in a hidden control system – that the worst sorts of humans will infest, and then pull the levers of control, to then serve their own private interests.

    If humanity is to survive, it can no longer allow a hidden control system of vested interests run the affairs of man. The power vertical must do its planning in the open. For example, China does its five year planning out in the open for all to see. In the latest 13’th five-year plan, the goal of “building a beautiful China” was written in, because the former five year targets of building up industry and agriculture are mostly done. In the latest plan, of the 13 binding targets, 10 relate to the environment and natural resources.

    Does building “beautiful” and focusing on environment sound like the ravings of a pscychopathic class bent on world domination, so they can take sordid gain out of Hubris? Or, does it sound like an exposed power vertical describing goals for improving the commons for the general welfare?

    Sunlight is the best disinfectant. The entire edifice of Atlantacism, which was foisted on London in 1694, and has since debt spread to infest the western world, is now past due for its date with destiny – the trash can (trash bin if you are English).

    The square mile is the first target to be nuked.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18990716/russia-nuke-london-first-world-war-three-putin-ally/

    My country (I’m American), gave it a good shot, as it had a revolutionary war to expel the parasites, who in turn were manipulating Parliament in London. (It wasn’t King George, his ear was being pulled by the Atlantacist Parasites, who even then wanted everything … the world is not enough.)

    Another important consideration is money-sickness. It is easy enough for normal people to understand psychopaths – it that they lack empathy, and they are not really fully human.

    We don’t have English words for understanding money-sickness. Dividing up Russia into new debt instruments, where new debts can pay old debts, is the hidden reason for WW3. China is a threat because it is sovereign, operates industrial capitalism, and has an open power vertical.

    It should be no surprise AT ALL, that Finance capitalist/Atlantacist West would launch a sneaky biological attack against China. The string pullers are still hiding out.

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/04/michael-hudson-plato-aristophanes-and-aristotle-on-money-lust-399-380-bc.html

    The Greek’s had a name for it: Philarguria

    It leads to madness and lunacy:

    Delphi’s warning that lust for monetary silver (philarguria) was the only thing that could destroy Sparta was echoed by Plato, Socrates and other philosophers accusing wealth addiction of leading to greedy and hubristic behavior that impoverished society at large. Creditors were singled out for reducing debtors to bondage and taking their land.

    Money-lust and greed are insatiable and infinite.

    Quoting from a poem of Solon – “No bound is set on riches for men” – Aristotle (Politics1 at 1256b) described the drive to acquire commercial gains as addictive. As a Roman proverb expressed it: “Money is like sea water: The more you drink, the thirstier you get.” The more money a rich man has, the more driven he is to accumulate yet more, without limit. Ecclesiastes 5:10 says: “Whoever loves money never has money enough; whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income.”

    • Thanks: Arthur MacBride
  46. Cortes says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Indeed.

    As the music speeds up, the sorcerer’s apprentices “in charge” are having greater difficulty in keeping all the plates in the air. Distractions are needed to cover the crashing sounds. Focusing on past harms takes eyes off the unfolding shambles.

  47. Covid-19 is the flu, and colds and pneumonia renamed, to scare the people into taking the genocide MRNA injections to help cull the herd.

    I do not like to challenge you to try it because all of us would miss you very much. Accusing ” Zionists ” of Covid-19 wouldn’t make any sense. That is what my brother told me. Would the ” Zionists ” invent Covid-19 and then inject their people with the unreliable stuff ? For God’s sake Israel is one of the most jabbed countries in the world.

  48. Dumbo says:

    Jeffrey [[[Sachs]]], the “economics expert” behind the rape of Russia in the 1990s, is now a virology expert?

    Whatever. Some people never lose their jobs or fame, no matter how many screwups, I guess.

    Anyway, the “lab leak” theory is just another way to make Covid even scarier, and force even more mRNA vaccines on people, for eternity.

    For all means and purposes, Covid is just the flu. Let us treat it just like the flu and forget about it, please.

    I notice Unz has not said a single word about “sudden adult death syndrome”, which seems to be a more pressing health issue for young people than Covid right now.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  49. Wrong wrong wrong. There was no leak because there is no pathogen. Red herring.

  50. @Arthur MacBride

    If you believe that release of the Covid 19 virus was a deliberate hostile act by the US government (“USA”) – not, BTW, as you seem to think Ron Unz’s theory – would you please spell out why you think so. Inshore what you regard as compelling evidence.

    And can you explain what anything that the Russians may have discovered about American financed bio labs in Ukraine has to do with what may have happened in Wuhan?

    • Troll: Arthur MacBride
  51. @Agentinslacks

    Global warming is another scam and psyop to promote UN Agenda 2030, it can be googled and read, this is part of the destruction of the nations of the world and is using HAARP and chemtrails to cause droughts, and floods and tornadoes and hurricanes in various places to create the myth of global warming, see Mike Morales on youtube and geoengineeringwatch.org , stopthecrime.org, elanafreeland.com, etc..

    Here in Montana I have seen chemtrail spraying over the Yellowstone valley since 1988, this goes on almost every day and sometimes every night, this spraying goes on all over the world, and this and HAARP ie High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program is used to drive their global warming agenda., HAARP uses micro wave heaters to heat the atmosphere via the nano particles of metals in the spray.

    It is a rare day when the natural clouds are seen, usually the sky looks like skimmed milk from all the chemtrail spraying.

  52. @Anon

    The US apparently operates or finances many bioscience labs which may or may not have anything to do with biowarfare. But, assuming they do, what relevance does the existence of the labs in Ukraine have to the outbreak of Covid 19 in Wuhan?

    Why do you say that the Chinese treated Covid as a bio weapon attack? They haven’t said anything to confirm that do what are you saying that they have done which shows them to be treating the outbreak to be a bio weapons attack.?

  53. anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    cranc 21, yeah right https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/was-peter-daszak-working-for-the

    CIA. CIA always has multiple fallback lies ready when their first bullshit story falls apart. As in 911: Saddam didit, bin Laden didit, Saudis didit, Izzies didit. To hide the obvious, CIA did it with Richard Blee as point man.

    So with COVID: germs didit, Chinese didit, Klaus Schwab didit, Bill Gates didit, military labs didit. All bullshit. CIA did it and has been doing it for more than two decades. Every DCI managed it hands-on, notably Bob Gates. Dumbshit brasshat Pompeo is going to hold the bag when the world points out the obvious, CIA didit.

    • Replies: @Cauchemar du Singe
  54. @Mefobills

    Thanks for so many posts that readers can learn from, Mefo.
    Even those having knowledge of these matters and of history benefit from your input.

    Please consider writing an article or two for Ron Unz to publish.
    Best Wishes and always to remember “am Ende steht der Sieg”.

    • Agree: profnasty
  55. @Agentinslacks

    What was it that was immediately obvious to you, that made you understand “what was going on”. And how come the announcement about Tom Hanks had any confirmatory value?

    • Replies: @Agentinslacks
  56. Notsofast says:
    @GMC

    the state duma is reevaluating russia’s membership in the w.h.o. and w.t.o. as well. duma speaker pyotr tolstoy (great-great grandson of the famous author) said that russia should revise agreements that “do not benefit but directly harm” the country. “russia withdrew from the council of europe, the next step is to withdraw from the w.t.o. and w.h.o., which have neglected all obligations in relation to our country.”

    let’s hope they follow through.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
  57. Iris says:
    @Old and Grumpy

    Why now?

    Maybe the Gate Center’s central mission is a good indication as to why?

    This is a new think-tank, which main mission is to study the shift of global economic power towards Asia.
    https://www.gatecenter.org/index.php/en/global-changes

    These liberal, left-leaning, smart and civilised Spaniards are preparing for a future in which US hegemony will have ceased to exist; it is probably where Jeffrey Sachs is in agreement with them.

    Anybody with intellectual lucidity can see that US domination is ending, anybody except the Neo-Cons in charge.

    As this imperial collapse accelerates, the US as a country will suffer badly, crashing instead of hard-landing, but Israel on the other hand will disappear altogether, for it will lose its sole protector. So the most intelligent among the American-Israelis are having a wake up call, as Itzhak Rabin had in his time.

    I have no doubt that this will be in vain however, for the Zionist-Occupied American Government is beyond rational redemption.

  58. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I hope you concede that this may be a desirable development but adds nothing to the evidence for your theory at this stage unless a small shift in the weight of evidence towards a lab produced virus counts.

    Actually, as a non-specialist, I thought the Sachs/Harrison journal article made some pretty compelling arguments that Covid was artificially engineered in lab, shifting the presumption strongly in that direction.

    Moreover, Prof. Sachs had chaired the Lancet commission that had originally come to the opposite conclusion, namely that the virus was natural, a position immediately taken up and repeated by the entire Western MSM. So his dramatic public reversal should have been a massive news story, but instead it was totally ignored almost everywhere in the West.

    He’s also now repeatedly hinted or suggested that an American lab had produced Covid, and called for an independent public investigation. He’s never once mentioned anything about the Wuhan lab, which had been the target of more than two years of dishonest propaganda attacks meant to divert attention from the obvious suspect.

    So when an extremely Big Name publicly says he’s “pretty convinced” that the virus “came out of US lab biotechnology” and seems to dismiss the competing Wuhan lab-leak hypothesis for the obvious nonsense that it is, I consider that a remarkable bombshell.

    Instead it’s been totally ignored everywhere in the media. Have you heard anything about it in all the Australian media outlets you’re always citing? If not, perhaps you should stop trusting them so much.

  59. @Anon

    Check out Caitlin Johnstone’s “Tucker Carlson Is As Much A Propagandist As Anyone Else In MSM,” linked up in Newslinks at the top of the Unz website.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Mefobills
  60. @Quartermaster

    The changes were made in Wuhan using techniques developed in The United States. Dr Shi Zhengli, working out of The Wuhan Institute of Virology, published in 2017 a paper of her team’s work building virus chimera that used bat coronaviruses her team collected in Yunnan. The virus chimera described in the paper are identical to SARS-CoV2. When SARS-CoV2 first appeared in Wuhan, Dr Shi is on the record expressing her fear it might be one of her lab’s production chimera. “I couldn’t sleep for three days” she said. She claims she “checked”, and of course it wasn’t one of her “bugs”. Shortly after the Chinese government deleted the data base of Dr Shi’a experiments. Dr Shi has admitted her team performed procedures with her virus chimera under BSL2 protocols, the biosafety level of a dentists office. It is plainly obvious that the breach of containment occured when one, or more, of Dr Shi’s team was exposed to SARS-CoV2 due to inadequate biosafety protocols, unqualified staff performing risky procedures, and typically Chinese sloppiness; then spread it around Wuhan doing ordinary things like shopping at the seafood market and socializing.

    • Thanks: Ben the Layabout
  61. Al Liguori says: • Website

    Fort Detrick Mystery Revives Questions on Real [Anglo-Zionist!!!] Origin of Covid-19
    by Mauro Gia Samonte, Sovereign PH, July 20,2021
    https://sovereignph.com/2021/07/20/fort-detrick-mystery-revives-questions-on-real-origin-of-covid-19/

    In 1998 Israeli Jews were caught developing ethnic bioweapons: Israel’s Ethnic Weapon?, Wired, November 16, 1998 https://www.wired.com/1998/11/israels-ethnic-weapon/

    Missing original: Israel Planning ‘Ethnic’ Bomb as Saddam Caves In by Uzi Mahnaimi and Marie Colvin, Additional reporting: Matthew Campbell in Washington, Hugh McManners, Originally posted in the London Times (November 16, 1998), disappeared from its original and archive link, http://www.thetimes.co.uk/section/0,,158,00.html, and also disappeared from several sites that mirrored the article.

    [MORE]

    Expectedly, the depopulationists (read, “genocidalists”) did not abandon their ethnic bioweapons project. The Zio-con strategists’ Project For A New American Century (of “new Pearl Harbor” infamy) explicitly included race-specific bioweapons on their predictive programming wish list. See their “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” document published in 2000 at page 60: “And advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.”

    • Replies: @Jerry Alatalo
  62. @Dumbo

    I’ve been very clear since the beginning of all this unsavory business that I do not believe that Covid-19 leaked from any lab, either accidentally or intentionally. We know at the very least that it did not leak from Wuhan, because there are documented cases of Covid antibodies turning up in human blood samples that predate the Wuhan outbreak by as much as six months. This was a natural, and wholly unremarkable, virus.

    I have argued these points elsewhere and I am not going to repeat those arguments just now. But at the risk of overegging the pudding, I cannot resist pointing out that the behavior of global health organizations and medical practitioners throughout the Covid hysteria ought to leave everyone with grave doubts as to whether these people could engineer a virus even if they wanted to. They seem not to understand much about virology at all. Not a single one of their predictions came anywhere close to the truth. None of their public health measures did anything to slow the spread of the infection. And their signature response to the issue—the vaunted mRNA vaccines—are such a panoply of scientific ignorance and terrible reasoning that any establishment which adhered to such notions could not possibly be at the same time designing “bioweapons.”

    The lab leak theory is politically appetizing (I have no respect for these people either), but as a factual matter it is unbelievable.

    • Replies: @Charles Martel France
  63. So, may I presume Russia has unearthed some good evidence from the America- sponsored Uki biolabs, and it will be released in the near future? Why else should someone in the establishment admit this now in an establishment magazine?

  64. I agree Covid-19 was made in a US biolab but “accidentally” released? What, jumped out of a US biolab and landed in Wuhan, China? Every day that passes Ron Unz’s theory seems most plausible. Perhaps they know that they can’t hide the truth much longer so this Sachs comes out about some accident (or is it RT as a poster mentioned?) to deflect from the truth.

  65. @Quartermaster

    … but we do know the virus escaped captivity in Wuhan.

    We do not know any such thing.

    And we don’t know because no one seems to be looking for the facts. The idiot press and idiot pundits went straight from the perception-managed “natural origin” narrative from the last year of the Trump presidency, to the “lab leak” — ie accidental release — narrative.

    The emergence of the virus in Wuhan, combined with the proximity of the Wuhan lab, and the Fauci-funded bat corona virus gain-of-function research there, made the presumption of a “leak” a natural, plausible leap of “logic”. A leap which very nearly everyone made. A leap which was “baked in”. Yet a leap made without a shred of concrete evidence.

    The valid progression of logic , once the “natural origin” idea came into question — post Trump, courtesy of Nicolas Wade — should have been natural origin vs lab-made origin. And once lab-made origin became the prevailing view, then the next logical step would have been to ask — not presume — “Accidental release or not-accidental release?” But the lab leak presumption had already been “baked in” by repeated usage for over a year, the logical error completely overlooked.

    My take: Pompeo while at the CIA planned the attack, brought Kadlec in to prepare the US for the inevitable spill-over, and then employed Fauci — unwittingly — to resume gain-of-function research in Wuhan lab to set up the Wuhan lab as the “patsy” for the attack.

    Interestingly, the precision with which viral genomes can be analyzed makes it possible to trace back the origins of the virus with 100% accuracy, but only if the viral genome data from labs — secretive US bioweapons labs — across the world can be accessed. I expect that getting at that data, classified “bombshell” that it is, will not happen, and the bioweapon origin of the Covid-19 event will remain a secret until long after we are all dead and the pandemic a faded memory.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
  66. @Intelligent Dasein

    They seem not to understand much about virology at all.

    Even virologists themselves ? An Iraqi virologist who got his PHD in England and studied the virus closely came to the conclusion that it was engineerd to attack different parts of the body and it is characteristically – based on science – different from other viruses that are found in nature.

    I believe that the virus is like a burglar who manages to break into your house irrespective how advanced and up-to-date your alarm system is . It means the burglar is not an ordinary one. May be a highly trained FBI or CIA agent with special instruments which are not available to the public.

  67. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Greta Handel

    Thanks for the Newslink tip.

    I guess I should’ve realized a guy making \$30 million working for Fox News who’s pushing stuff he has to know is bogus is ultimately a Deep State tool. Like how he pushed “CCP” “virologist” “whistleblower”, (really a Falun Gong Hong Kong CIA feminist woman), Li-Meng Yan. Carlson kept saying— with a straight face— that Yan worked at the Wuhan Institute of Virology when in reality she worked at a Hong Kong university and was paid by Steve Bannon to write a paper claiming Covid is a Chinese bioweapon.

  68. Jim123 says:

    Perhaps Sachs communicated with and/or read the August 2021 research by USMC Major Joseph Murphy.

    As much as Ron Unz’ enlightening theory has been ignored, Murphy’s research, that this was a bat vaccine that escaped in Aug. 2020 from ECOHealth experiments — and these experiments were not halted until April 2021! — Murphy’s contribution even more “radioactive”. . . that is, even more ignored by Media Apostles.

    Assuming fundamentals of both the Unz and Murphy are true: this is a volcano on top of a tsunami.

    In addition, the “superset” of Murphy information allows for the “subset” of information in the Unz theory.

    Senator Ron Johnson, R-Wisconsin, posted the Murphy information and there it sits.

    A snippet from the Murphy memo to Marine Corps IG, 13 Aug. 2021:

    [MORE]

    ++++++++++++++++++++
    SARS-CoV-2 is an American-created recombinant bat vaccine, or its precursor virus. It was created by an EcoHealth Alliance program at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), as suggested by the reporting surrounding the lab leak hypothesis. The details of this program have been concealed since the pandemic began.

    SARS-CoV-2, hereinafter referred to as SARSr-CoV-WIV, is a synthetic spike protein chimera engineered to attach to human ACE2 receptors and inserted into a recombinant bat SARSr-CoV backbone. It is likely a live vaccine not yet engineered to a more attenuated state that the [NIAID/Fauci funded ECOHealth] sought to create with its final version. It leaked and spread rapidly because it was aerosolized so it could efficiently infect bats in caves, but it was not ready to infect bats yet, which is why it does not appear to infect bats. The reason the disease is so confusing is because it is less a virus than it is engineered spike proteins hitch-hiking a ride on a SARSr-CoV quasispecies swarm. The closer it is to the final live attenuated vaccine form, the more likely that it has been deattenuating since initial escape in August 2019 . . . .

    The potential for SARSr-CoV-WIV to deattenuate requires immediate attention [note: at the time, Aug. 2021, Biden and Austin said military would be all vaxxed via mandate, with COVID-19 shots; this is why Murphy sounded alarm and wrote this to the IG]. Live vaccines have been found to deattenuate in the past. If this is the case with SARSr-CoV-WIV, then the mass vaccination campaign actually performs accelerated gain-of-function for it. Since it is designed for bats off of a human-susceptible form. Improving the SARS-CoV-WIV spike protein (other than direct engineering) is to challenge it against animals that have spike-protein-only antibodies. The attenuated virus will either die or adapt its form to neutralized the spike protein-only antibodies. The intent was to perform this task against humanized mice and then “batified” mice. Instead, it was done with the world’s population.

    [Note: and here echoing “old microbiologist”] SARSr-CoV-WIV is not meant to kill the bats, but to immunize them. This nature may explain its general harmlessness to most people, and its harmfulness to the old and comorbid, who are in general more susceptible to vaccine reactions.

    https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/services/files/A5D718FE-B85D-40BE-824A-76FCDD5F7BDB

    https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/2mVob3c1aDd8CNvVnyei6n/95af7dbfd2958d4c2b8494048b4889b5/JAG_Docs_pt1_Og_WATERMARK_OVER_Redacted.pdf
    +++++++++++++++

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data publicly available on agency website now shows:
    1] On week # 17 this year, 50% more COVID-19 deaths in vaxxed v. unvaxxed.
    2] On week # 20 this year, 52% more cases in vaxxed v. unvaxxed.

    The CDC data now shows more cases/infections — since Omicron in Dec. for vaxxed v. unvaxxed.

    Since Christmas 2021, the CDC reports 9,700,763 COVID-19 infections in those vaxxed.
    There have been 9,245,587 infections in unvaxxed, the CDC data says, since Xmas.
    9,700,763 = 51% infections for vaxxed since Xmas
    9,245,587 = 49% infections for unvaxxed since Xmas

    And, since April 2022, more deaths for vaxxed v. unvaxxed.

    In Dec. the counts flipped back and forth; and since Feb., straight through most recent data in May 2022: more COVID-19 cases/infections in vaxxed.

    The cases/infections data is through May 2022.

    For some reason, the deaths are not reported after end of April on CDC website at this time, July 2, 2022.

    Is there a trend, now, since April 2022, with CDC’s own data published on their website showing more deaths among those vaxxed v. unvaxxed?

    All data at:

    https://data.cdc.gov/Public-Health-Surveillance/Rates-of-COVID-19-Cases-or-Deaths-by-Age-Group-and/3rge-nu2a

    COVID-19 DEATHS REPORTED BY CDC; VAX VS. NOVAX BY MONTH/YEAR AND WEEK
    month week totalvax totalnovax
    Feb-22 202208 706 1145
    Mar-22 202209 535 768
    Mar-22 202210 357 529
    Mar-22 202211 254 369
    Mar-22 202212 184 275
    Mar-22 202213 170 198
    Apr-22 202214 171 174
    Apr-22 202215 199 187<<
    Apr-22 202216 208 158<<
    Apr-22 202217 259 173<<

    As of week 17 this year, 50% more COVID-19 deaths in vaxxed v. unvaxxed
    259/173=1.497, or 50%.
    +++++
    +++++

    COVID-19 CASES REPORTED BY CDC; VAX VS. NOVAX BY MONTH/YEAR AND WEEK
    month week totalvax totalnovax
    Dec-21 202151 601483 625147
    Dec-21 202152 1374100 1320372
    Jan-22 202201 1919855 1866232
    Jan-22 202202 1571712 1648465
    Jan-22 202203 1171802 1212536
    Jan-22 202204 731081 772430
    Feb-22 202205 402583 416335
    Feb-22 202206 240156 235355
    Feb-22 202207 140167 132193
    Feb-22 202208 86063 77570
    Mar-22 202209 62704 52746
    Mar-22 202210 46476 37331
    Mar-22 202211 44921 32494
    Mar-22 202212 52496 35954
    Mar-22 202213 60360 40481
    Apr-22 202214 80373 50470
    Apr-22 202215 106399 62683
    Apr-22 202216 123879 76553
    Apr-22 202217 159413 95161
    May-22 202218 207157 125385
    May-22 202219 251752 155110
    May-22 202220 265831 174584

    On week 20 this year, 52% more cases in vaxxed v. unvaxxed, the CDC data indicates at this time.
    265831/174584=1.5226, or 52%.

    The CDC case data is through May, and through April for the deaths — which month, for first time CDC reported as more deaths in vaxxed; the CDC has not updated that data file as of this morning.
    -30-

    • Replies: @Jim123
    , @Skeptikal
  69. Skeptikal says:
    @cranc

    Dr. David Martin also cites this quote by Daszak in his detailed presentation regarding the patents that were taken out on these viruses long before 2019.

    https://rumble.com/v1acoaa-up-to-100-million-will-die-from-cv19-vax-by-2028-dr-david-martin.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    I am curious as to what people here think of Martin’s info.

    Martin is predicting ca. 70 million American deaths attributable to the spike proteins in the jabs, but likely stretched out over some years as the spikes cause both sudden and also drawn-out health effects.

    And then there is the attack on our infants and children.

  70. Mefobills says:
    @Greta Handel

    Tucker is staying in his lane, and so is Caitlan.

    https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/07/02/tucker-carlson-is-as-much-a-propagandist-as-anyone-else-in-media/

    “So, why isn’t the New York Times writing stories about any of this?” Carlson asks of the horrors in Africa he just invented in his head. “You know why – because the New York Times is on China’s side.”

    Will Caitlin ever make any utterances about how the New York Times does the bidding of their owners, the investor class. This class in turn, is heavily Jewish. Will she ever point that out?

    Tucker dances around the issues too. But, he does have a few degrees of freedom. The list of his sponsors is very small now, as the WOKE corporations no longer support him.

    There are stepping stones that normies have to walk on to disengage from Clown World. Both Caitlan and Tucker are stones, but they cannot “go there,” or they will be de-personed, and deplatformed.

    White nationalist Kevin Alfred Strom penned the quote (not Voltaire):

    “To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?”

    The Southern Poverty Law Center described Strom as a producer of “anti-Semitic and racist material” who pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography in a federal trial in 2008.

    Most likely our (((friends))) worked their kompromat and coercion techniques on Strom. Caitlan and Tucker don’t want to stick their head into the woodchipper, but they are taking big chances against some very powerful enemies. So, lets at least give them some credit for being brave.

  71. A1 says:

    Ron, you have not discussed the possible relevance of the early outbreak in Italy. Italy and China signed a “Memorandum of Understanding on the Belt and Road Initiative” in March 2019. This may have brought more Chinese tourists to Italy and hence the early outbreak, but it also disrupted a significant economic and political agreement between China and a G7 country. Coincidence?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  72. It’s no more of a “blunder” than the engineered and pre-planned non-vaxxes and the lockstep “reaponses”by the captured governments of the world.

  73. Levtraro says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I concur, which will no doubt please Sachs, the ‘hero’ of the Free Market rape of the Soviet Union, no end.

    That’s a typical leftist fantasy. Russia’s economy was badly damaged during the 90s by organized gangs of well-placed looters with the complacent aquiessence and finantial assistance of the West. Sachs had little to do with the nuts and bolts of free market reforms that caused the rise a predatory oligarchs, that level of detail was in the hands of the Russians. The real damage to Russia’s economy during the 90s was done by predatory Russians, especially by predatory Russian Jews.

    I recall someone here at TUR quoted the leftist Michael Hudson sadly complaining about why the Russian real estate stock was NOT given to the Russian people inhabiting all those millions of houses and appartments. In fact the real estate stock WAS GIVEN to the Russian people as part of the liberalization program of the 90s. That was one of the largest transfer of wealth from State to citizens. Leftists tend to ignore that fact.

    Giving all those million houses and appartments to the Russians inhabiting them for a token amount of money as tax is an often overlooked aspect of the liberalization of the 90s in Russia. Perhaps you would agree that that was a significant step in the right direction during free market reforms in the 90s in Russia, I mean, giving a good place to live to millions of citizens for nearly nothing, just because they were the current inhabitants, that sounds like something to be celebrated, don’t you agree mulga?

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  74. Mefobills says:
    @Agentinslacks

    Know that I also am a very smart guy like you and have studied the subject for decades and it was obvious immediately to me what was going on.

    Smart people, never brag about how smart they are. By definition, it is smart to not advertise your intelligence to others. A really smart person, knows he intimidates normal IQ people.

    Also, there is no way it was obvious immediately what was going on.

    In the very first instances of Covid Hysteria, there was scant information to go on.

    Garbage in, garbage out. Even smart people cannot make sense of garbage.

    The first set of data was the Covid Cruise Ship in Japan, Feb 2020.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7588545/

    That was a small isolated data set, and even then many old people were not falling ill.

    On January 30, 2020, the director-general of the World Health Organization (WHO) declared the outbreak of a novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) a public health emergency of international concern (1). Three days later, health authorities in Hong Kong alerted health authorities in Japan that a COVID-19 case was confirmed in Hong Kong on February 1 in a patient who had developed symptoms on January 19 and disembarked from a cruise ship en route to Yokohama, Japan, on January 25. The ship had initiated its voyage from Yokohama on January 20 and visited ports in Japan, Hong Kong, Vietnam, and Taiwan before returning to Yokohama.

    There were other clues, like operation warp speed redefining what a vaccine was. There was a video with Pompeo slipping up and telling Trump there was an operation in progress.

    (Somebody can find the video for me please, unless it was shoved into the memory hole.)

    And so on. It unraveled over time, and there is no way any one person “immediately” knew what was going on. It is a process.

  75. Ron Unz says:
    @A1

    Ron, you have not discussed the possible relevance of the early outbreak in Italy. Italy and China signed a “Memorandum of Understanding on the Belt and Road Initiative” in March 2019. This may have brought more Chinese tourists to Italy and hence the early outbreak, but it also disrupted a significant economic and political agreement between China and a G7 country. Coincidence?

    The early Italian outbreak occurred in Lombardy, where 300,000 Chinese already lived and worked, many of whom had recently returned from their Lunar New Year holiday travels to China, some of them probably from Wuhan.

    Based upon those facts, any epidemiologist might have predicted that Covid infections would hit Lombardy very early, and the same is true of the early Spanish outbreak, given that 150,000 Chinese lived and worked in Spain. So there’s really nothing particularly suspicious about those outbreaks.

    By contrast, the even earlier outbreak in Iran’s Holy City of Qom had occurred in an area having a totally negligible Chinese population and also particularly targeted Iran’s ruling political and religious elites just a few weeks after America had assassinated Iran’s top military leader. All of this seems extraordinarily suspicious, and explains why Iran’s leaders publicly declared that they believed Covid was an American biowarfare attack against their own country and China, and even complained to the United Nations.

    I’ve discussed all of this at length in my articles and my video interviews, linked above:

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
    • Replies: @A1
    , @Jen
  76. @Charles Martel France

    The rotten Khazar jew rats don’t care that they may rule over a nuclear devastated planet, so long as they’re the ones that rule…whatever and whoever remains among the toxic rubble.
    ERETZ ISRAEL…up your shorts.

  77. SafeNow says:
    @Jeff Davis

    and the bioweapon origin of the Covid-19 event will remain a secret until long after we are all dead and the pandemic a faded memory.

    “Will remain a secret”…because? The crew of The USS Liberty were told that if they talk about the events they had knowledge of, they would lose their pensions, “or worse.”

    Regarding “after we are all dead,” the “all dead” scenario will quite possibly come about much sooner than most people think.

  78. @anon

    “CIA” the three letters conspicuous by their absence in (((Big Media))) and even Little Media.
    This, somewhat understandable, because who wants a cyanide spray in the face that mimics a heart attack, or gets shot in the back of the head while walking home in a supposedly “good neighborhood” ?!
    In case anybody hasn’t noticed by this time, The CIA has been the enforcers and hitmen for The Deep State ever since they whacked JFK, on orders from the Israeli kike, retired murdering terrorist Begin, with the help of jewSicilian ghinnie scumbags and political crawling scum like Johnson, the Dulles brothers, frustrated Cuban oligarchs and assorted other vile shits.

    Secession and repudiation of The Feds ?
    nyggah, pleez

  79. Anon[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @Justrambling

    Try RT Telegramm channel. It also posts Documentary Planet, another Russian produced channel, with interesting short videos.

  80. @Wizard of Oz

    Tom Hanks is mister goody goody all American. There’s many ways to arrive at that conclusion , what did it for me was an interview the NYTimes book review did with him. He purported to read voluminously and every volume was a rah rah celebration of America, its history (reader’s digest version, you guessed it no jfk in Dallas books or tragedy of Vietnam) especially its “glorious” military history. But actors play themselves basically, so it hard to miss.

    With Covid it was a combination of long detailed research of the biowar subject going back to Seymour Hersh’s 1968 book and the Aids epidemic and the research on viruses which specifically targeted the immune system documented in Congressional hearings a long time ago. My dad was a professional physicist who worked at the Uni which was the headquarters of the Manhattan project medical division since WW2. They got busted by Hazel O’Leary early in Bill Clinton’s administration – revelations of radiation experiments on kids, poor people, minorities etc going on from the 40s till at least the 70s ( as of O’Leary’s revelations). It was a huge huge scandal. If you recollect you might recall the 800 numbers to call to see if you had been injected, blasted etc. All major media. A big book was written. I had discovered it on my own in the late 70s via certain articles in men’s magazines and discussion with the investigative journalist who wrote them. I confronted my dad about it, he denied it all, said he never heard about it and I should stop reading commie propaganda. I knew he was lying. Years later by degrees and half steps he started to acknowledge that not only did it maybe happen, it was headquarters. He knew the people involved, so did I, indirectly through the next generation – chess clubs and poker games. A famous person in academia is the son of the person who ran the radiation part which was run out of the University medical school dentistry department. So note that. Dentistry dept (x-rays and sadists) and ongoing for decades. Fast forward to 2020 and Covid19. Now I had already been convinced that Covid19 was a biowar engineered thing based on years of study and discussions with professionals in bioinformatics and genetic engineering. But it sure didn’t surprise me, no it shocked me, to find by pure serendipity (I looked through LinkedIn’s entry for the Uni) that the guy who has been Fauci’s asst at the NIH for at least a decade and was appointed chief in 2021 or early ’22 was a professor of the same dentistry department of the same (satanic) university (no I’m not religious or nuts). The Uni was crowing with pride about their prof achieving distinction as usual. That was too many coincidences. I knew that place and I fully expected the worst of them.

    Another thing I did as an assist at doing my own Intel and for personal reasons was collect through mail subscription some of the antisemitic literature which is marketed through various looney tune christian fundamentalist organizations. That’s due to two things. One – that’s a major us military propaganda venue, the idea to get their intended fabrications into the mouths of local pastors and the very gullible people who frequent such – the fighters for the us military are from a very small subsection of the us rural and mostly southern population. The fighters must be convinced of the lies and especially the very influential veterans organizations. Long story short – very early in 2020, February, I receive via post a mailing with 10 pamphlets of the Eustace Mullin variety Jew hatred stuff which in fact I love reading. probably a guilty pleasure after a life of being intimidated as a lifelong Murrkn to worship the Jews – my dad was Jewish by birth but loathed it. Long story but that’s my other reason – I got great pleasure reading antisemitic tracts and I know exceedingly well their origins and certainly don’t believe much of it. In fact my dad was a personal friend of Mullins in the USAF near the end of the war, and Mullins described to him how he would make a fine living from it after the war – and he did. (By the way, my dad was friends with numerous Nobel laureates in Physics, no slouch himself, there were pictures of me sitting on Fermi’s lap as an infant. Quizzed on “the smartest person he ever knew” he said Mullins. I rechecked over the course of decades – still Mullins). Anyway – the Jew hating pamphlets from the amerikkkan baptist ministers came with several pages of “secret breaking revelations” “only for our subscribers.” You may have figured it out already – it was a detailed bit of farrago about how Covid19 was Chinese biowar nefariously released on beautiful holy America. It is laughable of course on the face of it but a smoking gun if there ever was one. Every veteran, hillbilly and his cousin was getting the “inside scoop.” If I have to explain to you how damning that pamphlet insert was at that time before any of it ever eventually made it into print by the NYTimes science guy who wrote it up in Medium in may, causing a huge stir, then probably you simply don’t know the United States intimately enough or you are obtuse beyond remedy. I had also followed the fringe internet stuff on Covid19 from the beginning. The best of it was identical to these inserts for the devoted rapturist fighting man gun lovers, though sans religious angle, of course. So right off the mark signs of elaborate prepared deception were evident from various directions aiming high and low and in between. Other details – I live in NYCity. A silly one but telling -,I walk to the corner bodega for coffee every morning. From the very first week that Covid19 was reported as being present only in China and not at all a threat to America, I mean early January 2020 if not earlier, there were a couple crazies wearing masks handing out alarmist leaflets about a breaking worldwide pandemic. These were the phoney government dupe types like Falun gong nitwits, LaRouche followers, Mormons, Jehovah witnesses (who often really aren’t but “gee the guys a sincere Jehovah’s witness and he and his people say that it’s …. , and ya wouldn’t expect them to lie now, would you?”). If those types are out that fast with carefully prepared material on an essentially meaningless meaningless corner in Queens NY, energetically asking joe and Josephine schmoe to take these leaflets please .. something is up. It was one measly data point but I made a note of it .

    Other smoking guns? Well, Corona viruses have been endemic for ages and vaccines have been tried to a fare-thee-well and no success. Known for years and years. That’s what you want by the way to defeat the powerful human immune system (that’s why they turned to vectors like aids and retroviruses long ago – congress knew that countermeasures existed to the classic vectors of early germ war – so the military brass had to defeat the immune system or lose funding. The soviets actually had a fairly robust biowar and defense program. They used a different approach initially based on bacteriophages. Do I need to add that nuclear war is too destructive to use?). So a coronavirus with a vaccine? Rat smelling time. (And they squared the circle too?). How about “we have an effective vaccine but none of our enemies can use it?” Together with making use of the Russian vaccines as difficult to impossible to use as imagination allows.

    Then there’s the numerous other dead giveaways – furin cleavage sites perfectly grafted on miraculously by what magic – the tooth fairy? No, wind, rain and a magical Chinese province hopping bat eating pangolin expeditiously right next door to a Wuhan lab (just in case a settlement is made). It got worse and worse and worse. The vaccines were not transparently tested, and they were very toxic (I got myocarditis and very nearly died from Pfizer – yes, very stupid of me, I am old in poor health and succumbed to fear) and also – didn’t f….ng work. Did I mention that I know through other personal contacts not discussed in any media that a cull is either underway or at least highly desired? Dan Brown’s book yrs ago about a virus specifically designed to decrease reproductive capacity in alternating generations comes to mind. The crookedness of Moderna and Pfizer. The suspension of all liability. The serial neverending chanting of “china virus Wu flu” and worse – the outright damning of China for instituting efforts at control which actually worked while fat lazy Americans who had no health care system to speak of were dropping like flies. The deaths of high ranking Iranians!?? Lots of them. Almost too good to be true. Simultaneously with China? Remember the Israelis stole the stuxnet computer virus and released directly against the American terms of collaboration?

    I am very tired and could go on at great length. War with Russia, btw is the most egregious smoking gun possible to imagine. Of course there would be ongoing biowar testing and field use before something like that. Weakening. The “variants” or mutations or magically appearing extra special supremely highly infective strains. Sure thing. Timed precisely for onslaught onto Beijing in a third wave as George Soros wrote his most recent articles and gave speeches practically Ordering Xi to resign. The nonsensical genocide in Yuigar land. Keep in mind the American rulers care not a whit how many Americans die. Hurricane Katrina – an object lesson screaming: we don’t care if you nuke our cities, and we think the coastal ones are doomed anyway or so we pretend, so nuke to your heart’s content (while we happily vaporize most of you commies, rooskies and Asians because our nukes are right up next to you and yours aren’t so close to ours) – nuke our coastal cities we think they’re doomed and we can’t use the people who live in them anyway.

    One of the last things my dad told me was that the only thing that kept him up at night was the prospect of biowar. He explained how easy it would be. A guy who lived decades working in the midst of it, though not directly, though he did consult for the CIA on captured Soviet Intel in the early fifties concerning a Ural mountain nuclear disaster. “I can’t figure out why no one has used them yet.” “Why do you think not?” I said. “Because they don’t want to. That’s all I can come up with.” That was in 2000.

    One last silly crazy data point. It’s may 2020 or so. The Guardian (yes them, Am I Sick etc) has a feature article, headline: Covid now believed by experts to be airborne. Under the headline – a color photo. In the photo, two men, foreground and midground are working at a fancy supermarket or delicatessen. The chilled foods are displayed neatly as usual on the knee high lower level. Above them running front to back into the pic are glass panels overhanging the food tray displays. The two men are very fit, military age, and their heads are shaved nearly bald. They are holding cleaning cloths in one hand with which they wipe down (clean) the glass panels over the food. In their other hands they hold atomizers. Now read the headline again.

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
  81. Some update news of post conflict Donbass —

    after emergency aid, Russian passport & currency issue, integration into phone system, large scale reconstruction (incl bombed maternity hospital), water pipelines, Mariupol Russian Drama Theatre to stage Chekhov play etc.
    excuse please, some of this is old news (over a week) e.g. —

    Donetsk, Jun 21 — DAN. Less than a week ago, Mariupol launched a large construction project to build a neighborhood of 12 five-storey apartment houses with an outpatient hospital by the winter.

    https://dan-news.info/en/photos/impressively-large-fast-construction-projects-in-western-mariupol/

  82. @MEH 0910

    In my opinion Ridley is a fascist, racist, denialist, Sinophobe thug, whose shenanigans at Northern Rock caused the first bank run in England for generations. I would believe NOTHING that slithered from his reptilian mouth.

  83. @Justrambling

    ‘Credible information’? Easy-the OPPOSITE of anything the BBC sewer states.

  84. @Mefobills

    So therefore Ron Unz isn’t highly intelligent. Because he was a theoretical physicist who said he once scored very high on an IQ test. Got it. Which helps also to explain how he made a fortune with his software writing skills. I will essay a response to Wizard of Oz. It will seem disjointed and maybe even scatter brained to the point of craziness. Guess what? I couldn’t care less what you think.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  85. @Realist

    Carlson is a FANATIC Sinophobe racist. His current series on Chinese ‘colonisation’ of Africa and South America is DEMENTED in its hate-mongering.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Troll: Charon
    • Replies: @denk
  86. Dumbo says:
    @Levtraro

    Sachs had little to do with the nuts and bolts of free market reforms that caused the rise a predatory oligarchs,

    Sachs was a propagandist for those actions, from very early on.

    Regardless, it boggles the mind why such person is still considering an “authority” on anything after repeated failures. Now he is even supposedly an authority on viruses, heading a “Covid-19 commission” at the Lancet. No one sees anything strange in that?

    I mean you hear the same names over and over, for decades, people promoted as “experts” or “authorities”, doing things that benefit no one or, if anyone, only, at most, rich Jews.

    If this guy is now promoting a “lab leak” theory, then there are obviously other reasons behind that.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
  87. Notsofast says:
    @Jeff Davis

    was with you until -unwittingly-. fauci and baric are in on this up to their nostrils, they may be thrown under the bus but they knew what they were doing. good post otherwise.

    • Agree: Ben the Layabout
  88. profnasty says:

    Jeffery Sachs….claims the Covid19..[CLICK].

  89. Ed Case says:
    @Mefobills

    Is Tom Hanks a Spook?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  90. @Jeff Davis

    Your final statement rings truest of all. It is impossible to expect that the guilty government, be it the US or China, will ever open up to a genuine investigation. We have a government that continues to keep JFK files classified nearly 60 years later after all.

    Pompeo is belligerent enough to have ordered it but I don’t think an extra-governmental organization origin can be dismissed. Who has benefitted from all this? Not the governments nor people of USA or China. It has been a huge damaging pain in the ass all over the world. But Pfizer, Moderna, Merck, J&J? How about the new round of Wall Street bailouts disguised as Covid relief? Signs point to the oligarchs, or whatever you want to call them.

  91. profnasty says:
    @Ron Unz

    And pre-planted bombs brought down the Twin Towers.
    Hillary Clinton said it best.
    “At this point, what difference does it make?”
    Salient political issues: Needless provocation of Russia; Economic, supply chain assault; Election Fraud; Need for drastic Deflation; Male pattern baldness cure.
    Covid is a False Flag event.
    Global warming?
    Everything is a rich man’s trick.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  92. A1 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Thank you…and thanks for the link.

  93. When will the other shoe drop?

    Among the Russia advisers in the 90s, Sachs is the only one who expressed any kind of contrition though not much.

    At any rate, he was good on Syria but totally bogus on calling 1/6 a ‘white supremacist insurrection’.

    • Thanks: Ron Unz
  94. Jen says:
    @Ron Unz

    Bear in mind also that northern Italy, northern Iran ( Tehran and Qom) and Wuhan (on the banks of a major river) are areas that have long been notorious for high air pollution levels.

    Lombardy sits along a major river valley (Po River) at the foot of the Alps. Agriculture and m manufacturing have been major industries for decades. From time to time this area has experienced industrial accidents, some of them very serious indeed. (An accident in the early 1970s near Milan, I think, led to airborne dioxin contamination with long-term health consequences for people in the area.) Likewise Wuhan sits along a major river (Jiangzi or Yangtze River) in a hilly area. Tehran and Qom sit on plateaus in a mountainous region. Because of their geographies, all these places experience annual thermal inversions (where warm rising air, often polluted, is trapped under cold air). Tehran experiences this phenomenon during its winters.

    The air pollution these locations experience help explain why they were the first to report COVID-19 cases but it is just one factor. Other theories of why and how Wuhan, Qom and Lombardy were first affected can still be relevant.

    BTW who remembers that the CIA tipped Israel back in Oct or Nov 2019 that a pandemic would soon occur in China? How did the CIA know and what did Israel do with that information?

    • Replies: @acementhead
  95. profnasty says:
    @Mefobills

    Like the price of eggs, who gets sick in China is not me worry. If someone shows up, sick, at our border, send him back to whatever shithole he came from.
    In my town, I never saw a problematic outbreak. I sure as hell saw a very dangerous outbreak of government over reach. Unfortunately, nothing was learned, i.e. the Ukraine.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  96. Jim123 says:
    @Jim123

    ERRATA
    Paragraph #2

    This [[As much as Ron Unz’ enlightening theory has been ignored, Murphy’s research, that this was a bat vaccine that escaped in Aug. 2020 from ECOHealth experiments — and these experiments were not halted until April 2021!]] as originally posted. . . .Has the years stated in error; it should read, instead
    [[As much as Ron Unz’ enlightening theory has been ignored, Murphy’s research, that this was a bat vaccine that escaped in Aug. 2019 from ECOHealth experiments — and these experiments were not halted until April 2020!]]

    Murphy: “The closer it is to the final live attenuated vaccine form, the more likely that it has been deattenuating since initial escape in August 2019. . . .”

    Murphy: . . .”the program [of EcoHealth Alliance] detailed to the BAA [the DARPA PREEMPT program Broad Agency Announcement (BAA) HR00118S0017, dated March 2018 — a document not yet publicly disclosed] response was conducted until it was shut down in April 2020.”

    My apologies.
    -30-

  97. Ron Unz says:
    @Agentinslacks

    Anyway – the Jew hating pamphlets from the amerikkkan baptist ministers came with several pages of “secret breaking revelations” “only for our subscribers.” You may have figured it out already – it was a detailed bit of farrago about how Covid19 was Chinese biowar nefariously released on beautiful holy America. It is laughable of course on the face of it but a smoking gun if there ever was one. Every veteran, hillbilly and his cousin was getting the “inside scoop.” If I have to explain to you how damning that pamphlet insert was at that time before any of it ever eventually made it into print by the NYTimes science guy who wrote it up in Medium in may, causing a huge stir, then probably you simply don’t know the United States intimately enough or you are obtuse beyond remedy. I had also followed the fringe internet stuff on Covid19 from the beginning. The best of it was identical to these inserts for the devoted rapturist fighting man gun lovers, though sans religious angle, of course. So right off the mark signs of elaborate prepared deception were evident from various directions aiming high and low and in between. Other details – I live in NYCity. A silly one but telling -,I walk to the corner bodega for coffee every morning. From the very first week that Covid19 was reported as being present only in China and not at all a threat to America, I mean early January 2020 if not earlier, there were a couple crazies wearing masks handing out alarmist leaflets about a breaking worldwide pandemic. These were the phoney government dupe types like Falun gong nitwits, LaRouche followers, Mormons, Jehovah witnesses (who often really aren’t but “gee the guys a sincere Jehovah’s witness and he and his people say that it’s …. , and ya wouldn’t expect them to lie now, would you?”). If those types are out that fast with carefully prepared material on an essentially meaningless meaningless corner in Queens NY, energetically asking joe and Josephine schmoe to take these leaflets please .. something is up. It was one measly data point but I made a note of it .

    That’s extremely interesting information. I hadn’t been aware of it, but I’m not a bit surprised. In my original April 2020 article, I’d emphasized how anti-China propaganda-activists linked to the US government had launched a massive Covid campaign as early as January, long before almost anyone in the world was paying any attention to the outbreak. From the very beginning, they claimed that the virus was a Chinese bioweapon that had leaked from the Wuhan lab:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/#american-accusations-of-a-chinese-lab-leak

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-covid-epidemic-as-lab-leak-or-biowarfare/#manipulating-scientists-into-deflecting-the-iranian-accusati

  98. Corvinus says:

    “Back in May, Sachs, along with Columbia University professor of molecular pharmacology and therapeutics Neil Harrison, penned an article in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggesting Covid-19 had originated in a laboratory. In the paper, the two academics called for greater transparency on the part of US federal agencies and universities, arguing that a lot of pertinent evidence was not disclosed.”

    Wait, I thought we can’t trust American academia.

  99. Mefobills says:
    @Agentinslacks

    So therefore Ron Unz isn’t highly intelligent. Because he was a theoretical physicist who said he once scored very high on an IQ test.

    Straw man argument. Ron Unz doesn’t preface by saying, I am very smart, so listen to me.

    It was probably in passing that he mentioned his score.

    Which helps also to explain how he made a fortune with his software writing skills.

    Ron has already explained his software. You are butt-hurting about something?

    It will seem disjointed and maybe even scatter brained to the point of craziness. Guess what? I couldn’t care less what you think.

    This is the comment section of a blog. You reveal yourself when you say you may be scatter brained.

    It is ok to be down on the IQ scale. Everybody fits into a distribution. Those who are less gifted intellectually, or physically always harbor animosities toward those who are better looking, smarter, richer, and have better personalities and so on.

    When I was in Norway, my fellow Americans, who were uglier than the average Norwegians, would not leave their hotel room.

    I’m a Nazi, and I believe in Eugenics. I now give you another reason to hate me even more.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  100. Mefobills says:
    @profnasty

    If someone shows up, sick, at our border, send him back to whatever shithole he came from.

    If you modeled finance capitalism, it would be interconnected double entry ledgers.

    The asset column of one ledger is the liability of another.

    The worldwide reach of the debt instruments (debts are also are somebodies asset) are interconnected via exchange rates, and are priced in dollars.

    So, you don’t get to send “him back” because labor is fungible. It is desired to relocate and then be localized in the U.S. to drive down the labor price, and to create chaos. The chaos allows the world to be bought up cheap.

    How many Chamber of Commerce Republicans virtue signal for their new brown workforce?

    All of them, right? Their god is money and prices, and they could give a damn about the country, or any sort of nationalism.

    • Agree: GomezAdddams
    • Thanks: profnasty
  101. Skeptikal says:
    @Jim123

    Well, I can’t help wondering how reliable any of these figures are.

    Because I suspect a lot of people who get covid, jabbed or unjabbed, just don’t report it to anyone.

    I know of some such cases myself . . .

  102. Skeptikal says:
    @Mefobills

    “Garbage in, garbage out. Even smart people cannot make sense of garbage. ”

    Even if they can’t “make sense of it,” they can still recognize it as garbage.

    For me, the first big “garbage red flag” was the flip-flopping on masks. Dr. Michael Osterholm changing his story between June and July 2020.

    I knew something was wrong with the whole story after that.

    • Thanks: Mefobills
    • Replies: @Bill
  103. @Anon

    Fox is showing Carlson’s interview with Brazil’s Bolsonaro and making him look like a great conservative, even though he is a product of the neoconservatives. Fox is showing their true colors finally, and Tucker is going back to his roots.

    • Replies: @Charles Martel France
  104. Mefobills says:
    @Ed Case

    Was Kubrick dropping the dime?

    In his memoir of Kubrick, Michael Herr, his friend and co-writer of the screenplay for Full Metal Jacket (1987), wrote:

    Stanley had views on everything, but I would not exactly call them political… His views on democracy were those of most people I know, neither left nor right, not exactly brimming with belief, a noble failed experiment along our evolutionary way, brought low by base instincts, money and self-interest and stupidity… He thought the best system might be under a benign despot [….]

    ———

    Frederic Raphael, who co-authored the Eyes Wide Shut script with Kubrick, says that the director once remarked that “Hitler was right about almost everything”, and insisted that any trace of Jewishness be expunged from the Eyes Wide Shut script.

    Hollywood is a weird place..

    Kubrick’s not being a loyal Jew troubled Raphael. Kubrick had cryptic praise for Hitler. Kubrick also trashed Schindler’s list.

    Kubrick came out of a 12 year retirement to make Eyes Wide Shut. So, he obviously thought it was important.

    Kubrick may have been giving us a message at the cost of his life: Never reveal what your eyes saw the Illuminati do at their parties.

    Kubrick died 4 days after completing the movie.

    So, is Tom Hanks a spook? Who knows. It is easy enough to threaten people and get them to do your bidding. An actor can act!

  105. @Jen

    “…thermal inversions (where warm rising air, often polluted, is trapped under cold air).”

    No that is incorrect(what an inversion is). Normally temperature decreases, monotonical, with increase in altitude. An inversion occurs when the temperature increases with altitude, often, even most often, with a sudden, sharply delineated increase in temperature, as, for instance, at the top of a layer of stratocumulus.

  106. @Agentinslacks

    Global warming is another “Don’t face reality and Mother Nature” misjudgment. Study the Ring of Fire –but it is deep down –those treches opening and closing (ice age) and Opening –now opening at the Poles ===real heat from Magma going upward and cracks those thick ice sheets like a red hot knice slices butter and to a lesser extent –the North Pole. Odd –there was 20 year ago a huge underwater eruption between Greenland Iceland and was NEVER on news. Were it the atmosphere—those ice sheets would be melthing from the top down. Likewise —red hot mamga in deep trenches heats water—water rises and cold water drops –to be heated. Last ice age oppoist happened –trenches close and no underwater heat —oceam emperatures drop BUT the sun –was still shining ?

  107. dimples says:
    @Ron Unz

    Mr Unz is clearly trying to read more into Sachs’s statements than are there.

    Sachs states clearly that he thinks the virus “came out of US lab biotechnology”. They key word here is ‘biotechnology’, ie the technology that developed the virus, was developed in the US. He is certainly not saying or hinting that the virus originated in a US lab leak.

    He is convinced personally that the virus is man made, and the main issue for him is that there is no investigation of the virus’s origins. Until there is a thorough investigation then no one can say which lab it came from, if any. He is not saying it came out of the WIV or any other lab because he doesn’t know that.

    It is certainly a move in a good direction that a prominent individual such as Sachs is attempting to inject some scientific truth into the massively politicized intellectual and bureaucratic response to the pandemic origins. Does this support Mr Unz’s unlikely theory? Your mileage may vary.

  108. dimples says:
    @Agentinslacks

    “I mean early January 2020 if not earlier, there were a couple crazies wearing masks handing out alarmist leaflets about a breaking worldwide pandemic. ”

    It was obvious to anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together in January 2020 that there would be a worldwide pandemic. All it would take would be the usual bureaucratic stupidity of which there is an infinite supply. So I would not read too much into the fact that some crazies were ahead of the bureaucrats.

  109. @profnasty

    And pre-planted bombs brought down the Twin Towers.

    That just can’t be. How could the bomb-planters have known exactly what floors the two planes would hit?

    The buildings began to collapse at the point of the plane strike, so the bomb-plant theory would have to argue that the bombs were planted near the point of impact AFTER the plane entries.

    Me thinks the impacts of the planes were enough to severely damage the steel beams and lead to eventual collapse.

  110. @Priss Factor

    Who are these “experts” whose views on anything and everything are highly regarded? Shouldn’t they stick to their narrow, very narrow, specialisations?

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    , @Ben the Layabout
  111. Pelayo says: • Website
    @Agentinslacks

    Very good summary. Thank you. All on all points. Send me a direct message.

  112. Dumbo says:
    @Priss Factor

    What about that building that fell down and was not struck by any plane?

    I think that they (probably) had lots of different backup plans for 9/11 in case the operation did not work as intended. The whole building wired and ready to go. Who knows.

    I mean, so many things could have gone wrong with 9/11, planes bringing down two buildings for maximum effect is not easy to pull off.

    It was not the first time that planes crashed on buildings. But planes bringing down not one, but TWO buildings, perfectly perpendicularly, it has to be a first. And on the first try, too!

    What are the odds?

    Only the moon landing was more unbelievable. But who knows… We’ll never know exactly what happened.

  113. Dumbo says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Jews are always “experts” on something or other, and they keep getting called for jobs by other Jews.

    In the 1990s Sachs was an “expert” on the Russia transition, now somehow he’s an expert on “Covid-19”.

    And it’s not just Sachs, and not just Jews. There are so many others who for DECADES are always called to give their opinion on this or that, and no matter how many times they are wrong, they are always heading a commission or think tank or in some cushy government job.

    Truth is, most of those “experts” are not really experts on anything, just on nepotism and on scamming the public.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  114. @Mefobills

    Who goes to Norway just to sit in a hotel room for God’s sake? Genuinely curious because I would be in my hotel only long enough to sleep and shower if I were in any place in Europe.

  115. Mefobills says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    I know right? That is why it stuck with me.

    I was working there. Coworkers would stay home, at the rental flats, and they were mostly brown people.

    I could tell they were uneasy with being seen in public. Even cajoling them would not get them out.

    Maybe as a tourist it is different? One of my more ugly compatriots was called a frog by some pretty girls, and he also became reclusive.

    Ugly, stupid, and fat people have psycho sexual problems.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  116. @Mefobills

    I see now. I can understand it. It depends on the comfort level with the culture. When in Bahrain I never really ventured out of my housing either. But during my time stationed in Japan, I took many opportunities to get out and see whatever I could find. Despite the reality that plenty of citizens of both countries would like to see Americans leave, and quite rightly.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  117. @Mefobills

    Finally. You have nailed it. It is not about individual countries. Covid-19 is the pinnacle of centuries of corporate mayhem coming to a fevered head. Not so much designed or planned as it is a timed destruction with certain collateral damage.
    Who funds WHO, NIH, CDC? As big pharma attempts its coup over each individual’s body humanity-at-large needs to recognize that as soon as a narrative hits the press, any press, it is likely a smokescreen for something still unnoticed. The super elite already have planned for blowback for the bioweapon story. We must avoid the bait.
    Since September 11, 2001, we exist in what I term a post proof world. Evidence beyond a shadow of doubt is an ideal impossible to achieve due to monetarily driven obfuscation. In the end, only Soviet-style justice can put those responsible to sleep for good. But then we are only part of the problem with no chance to rise above the Atlanticist money lenders. And, frankly, the vast majority of souls appear to prefer going down with the ship, so to speak. It will be an interesting descent into oblivion. Thank you for your post.

    • Thanks: Mefobills
  118. @Priss Factor

    Is it not amazing how near impossible it is to get Ron or anyone on UR threads to treat. seriously the point you make about the plotters of demolitions having to coordinate precisely the levels of impact and the levels where collapse started?

  119. @Agentinslacks

    Thank you for taking the trouble. You still have an interesting mind.

  120. @Ron Unz

    Without searching the internet or the depths of my mind I am pretty confident that the Australian media has reported nothing about the origin of the Covid 19 virus for a long time. I suppose it’s possible that the foolish and costly emarrassment caused by the then government’s demand, without discussion with China, that there be an “independent inquiry” about origins could have put our media off the subject.

    I was going to reply to your next comment replying to Argentslacks long reply to me directly but I am up to my hourly limit so acknowledge here that you do seem to have been told or reminded of some evidence which tends to support your theory. However it needs explanation for how the rogue organisers of the attack on China came to arrange for that odd collection of doom sayers to be alerted and motivated to give warnings so early.

  121. @Realist

    It’s pure psychological projection. Any crime against humanity that the USA is in fact already guilty of committing, they accuse China of allegedly doing.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Thanks: Realist
  122. Triteleia Laxa [AKA "Aether"] says:
    @Priss Factor

    This is a painfully stupid misrepresentation. Sachs says “US lab biotechnology” and later concluded that it came from a Chinese lab using US tech. He is clear on that.

    And of course, given that he is a left of centre establishment figure, he is only adding the bit about the US to distance himself from anyone accusing him of racism by mentioning the Chinese lab without a self-castigatory adjoiner.

    • Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  123. Reggie says:
    @W

    Yep. I see that Mike Whitney is apparently no longer allowed to post articles questioning the covid hoax, and Linh Dinh, another Covid skeptic, is no longer on the site. Ron has cracked down and will only allow his own wrongheaded opinions on this subject that is the most important subject in our world today. So much for diversity of opinion on Unz.com

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  124. anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Was the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Disease involved in the creation of the virus? Or was it all at Chapel Hill?

  125. @Reggie

    The latest from Linh Dinh having a go at the vaxxers

    Clean, Isolated Deaths, Mostly With Consent, Though Relentlessly Pressured

    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=255532

    • Replies: @dimples
  126. anonymous[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Was the US lab of biotechnology Professor Sachs refers to under the command of the US Army?

    1 Apr 2020
    Military.com | By Patricia Kime
    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention restored full operating capability to all U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) labs at Fort Detrick, Maryland, last week following a shutdown last July of some high-level facilities out of safety concerns.

    The CDC cleared USAMRIID’s Level 3 and 4 laboratories — those where the world’s most dangerous pathogens are studied — for full operations March 27. The labs had been operating under partial capacity since last November, following a cease-and-desist order issued last July by the CDC over lapses in biosafety standards.

  127. Ron Unz says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    This is a painfully stupid misrepresentation. Sachs says “US lab biotechnology” and later concluded that it came from a Chinese lab using US tech. He is clear on that.

    You’re just a dishonest Neocon troll. Sachs certainly doesn’t say that either in his important May journal article or in his June talk in Spain, excerpted in the video clip. Provide a quote or admit your dishonesty.

    While Sachs doesn’t explicitly say the virus came from America, that’s clearly a plausible implication of his words. He also does call for an independent inquiry into America’s role.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Triteleia Laxa
  128. Wokechoke says:
    @Ron Unz

    It’s not dishonesty. She is a confidence trickster.

  129. @Wizard of Oz

    Read The Curve of Binding Energy, John McPhee – all your questions will be answered.

  130. Bill says:
    @Skeptikal

    The public health clownshow’s received wisdom, for decades prior to 2020, on masks and lockdowns was that they don’t work against things like covid. That changed abruptly in the second half of March, 2020 without explanation.

    As it turns out, the clownshow’s previous received wisdom was right, though this is obviously in a stopped clock is right twice a day kind of way.

  131. Wokechoke says:
    @cranc

    Peter Daszak…

    a Ukrainian with a Mancunian accent living in New York running a philanthropic charity Umbrella.

  132. Triteleia Laxa [AKA "Aether"] says:
    @Ron Unz

    Maybe you’re dishonest, or maybe you’re just ignorant:

    Sachs and Harrison write. “We do know that the insertion of such FCS sequences into SARS-like viruses was a specific goal of work proposed by the EHA-WIV-UNC partnership within a 2018 grant proposal (“DEFUSE”) that was submitted to the US Defense Advanced Research Projects (DARPA).”

    “WIV” stands for Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    EHA is the US-based EcoHealth Alliance run by Peter Daszak.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Ron Unz
  133. @Al Liguori

    The last words in your comment are well worth repeating for special historical emphasis:

    The Zio-con strategists’ Project For A New American Century (of “new Pearl Harbor” infamy) explicitly included race-specific bioweapons on their predictive programming wish list. See their “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” document published in 2000 at page 60: “And advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.”

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  134. Iris says:
    @Justrambling

    RT can be watched on their internet Odysee channel:

    https://odysee.com/@RT:fd

  135. Skywalker says:

    Not only China and hated by Israel Iran were the original targets. Also Italy was targeted, a few months after signing an agreement allowing the Chinese BRI (Belt and Rode Initiative) enter Europe through Italian territory – a development strongly opposed by the US.

  136. Iris says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Sorry to interject, but what you write is deceptive and confusing because it keeps entertaining the same misconception, which should not exist after two years of Covid disaster : there are two very different types of Gain-Of-Function biological manipulations.

    One is medical G0F, carried out with public health therapeutic intentions, using known viruses and trying to timely predict their next evolution.
    The other is bio-weapon GoF, carried out, on the contrary, with the purpose of delivering most harmful and unpredictable organisms.

    J. Sachs cannot be meaning, on the one hand, that these biological manipulations were of semi-public knowledge (because they were medical G0F requiring grants), and on the other hand that they were so secretive that intensive investigations are now required.

    It is one or the other.

  137. Iris says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    the point you make about the plotters of demolitions having to coordinate precisely the levels of impact and the levels where collapse started?

    That’s because anybody with 3 neurones still left inside their cranium know that it is impossible to bring down high-rise steel structure with a plane crashing.

    When on Saturday 28th July 1045, a B-25 Mitchell bomber of the United States Army Air Forces crashed into the Empire State Building, the structure was so insignificantly impacted that the sky-scrapper was back to business-as-normal on the following Monday, 30th July. And it is still standing in sound condition to the day.

  138. Triteleia Laxa [AKA "Aether"] says:
    @Iris

    The vast majority of investigations are into things of semi-public knowledge.

  139. Mefobills says:
    @Jefferson Temple

    Thanks for helping me understand it.

  140. Ron Unz says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    You claimed:

    Sachs says “US lab biotechnology” and later concluded that it came from a Chinese lab using US tech. He is clear on that.

    When I challenged that totally ridiculous claim, all you could find was:

    Sachs and Harrison write. “We do know that the insertion of such FCS sequences into SARS-like viruses was a specific goal of work proposed by the EHA-WIV-UNC partnership within a 2018 grant proposal (“DEFUSE”) that was submitted to the US Defense Advanced Research Projects (DARPA).”

    So they merely mentioned that there had been a (rejected) proposal to our own DARPA agency that the Wuhan lab and our own research facilities receive a grant to conduct such genetic research. That’s totally different than what you were claiming.

    Everyone knows that the Wuhan lab was conducting viral research. So were numerous other labs both in the US and around the world. There’s ZERO evidence that Covid had anything to do with the Wuhan lab.

    I repeat, you’re just a dishonest Neocon troll relying upon FoxNews talking points.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  141. Triteleia Laxa [AKA "Aether"] says:
    @Ron Unz

    No one intelligent and honest could read the following and draw the conclusion you have:

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2202769119

    The point of the article is clearly to imply that WIV was the origin and that, even though the Chinese won’t cooperate (because they are obviously guilty of ineptitude), America can investigate US involvement in WIV and find the right info, but, honestly, believe what you will, propagate what you will and continue your heroically deranged 8 year descent from eccentric, to object of pity, to laughing stock. It is kind of funny.

  142. Skeptikal says:
    @Jerry Alatalo

    “a politically useful tool.”

    Chilling.
    And mind-effing.
    Because of course terrorism already is a “politically useful tool.”

    So, no difference, actually. No “transformation.”

    Just an attempt to confuse readers with a false dichotomy so that they accept the “normalizing” of the idea of racially targeted bioweapons if you give it a new label.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  143. @Robert Bruce

    Sometimes Tucker is funny, isn’t he ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson

    He claimed that a vaccine mandate in the U.S. Armed Forces was designed to oust “the sincere Christians in the ranks, the free thinkers, the men with high testosterone levels, and anyone else who doesn’t love Joe Biden“.

    On a day when two Fox News hosts, Steve Doocy and Sean Hannity, urged viewers to get vaccinated to protect against the surging Delta variant of the coronavirus, Carlson said, “There are a lot of people giving you medical advice on television and you should ignore them.”

    Carlson refused to say whether he has been vaccinated, responding to a reporter, “When was the last time you had sex with your wife and in what position? We can trade intimate details.” More than 90% of Fox Corporation’s full-time employees had been fully vaccinated by September 2021.

    In May 2022, Carlson described himself as “[against] the vax”

  144. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:

    M. Cauchemar du Singe, 79 indeed. Whitney Webb does a great job describing how the assemblage fits together, kosher nostra mosters and foreign intelligence and CIA:

    https://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2022/07/03/whitney-webb-21/

    Only thing worth adding is the international consensus on organized crime: the difference between terrorists and organized crime is that terrorists want to knock states over, while organized crime wants to complement state structures (that’s SECRET//NOFORN.) So mobsters volunteer as state henchmen. The mobsters bring an appetite for dirty work; CIA offers its municipal-law impunity. So the deepest state, the civil/military command structure – CIA – can do anything it wants, legal or illegal, deniably. That gives them the atavistic absolute sovereignty of an oriental potentate.

    So while the Rothschilds live high, they’re obliged to launder lots of money for CIA ratfucks, and if they cross Langley their helicopters are prone to crash in flames.

  145. @Iris

    That’s because anybody with 3 neurones still left inside their cranium know that it is impossible to bring down high-rise steel structure with a plane crashing.

    You have to take into consideration that there are a lot of people who do know the meaning of understanding and how it feels to understand something.

  146. @RobinG

    Apologies. Sachs in the video in this article only says it came out of a U.S. biolab. But it seems to be the case that he IS suggesting it was an accident (a leak) in other videos where he talks at length about it. There may be some merit to what you said (controlled opposition?).

  147. profnasty says:
    @Priss Factor

    Planes? What planes.
    No plane at Penn. No plane at Pentgram.
    There’s a good deal of hard evidwnce to show No Plane. Start with Ace Baker, The Key.
    911 wasn’t just Sep11. It was everything that went on before, during, and after 911.
    23 Elul- 911, goog that. More evidence.
    A plane could knock down neither Joakim, nor Boaz. As a mosquito on a cow.
    You CANNOT prove the planes did exist.
    There is good evidence to the contrary.
    Go eat at the Bush Bastard’s table.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  148. @Skeptikal

    They were nearly all Zionazi Jews, many acolytes of the sinister Judaic supremacist Leo Strauss, and this was a decade or so after the joint bio-warfare research by the apartheid twins, South Africa and Israel, was halted, in South Africa only. What were these two racist, terrorwist, regimes seeking? Ethnically specific bio-weapons.

  149. @Triteleia Laxa

    The PNAS is the successor to the PNAC-Imperial bullshit, fit only to fertilise, say a Triteleia laxissimus.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  150. JohnSmith says:
    @Ron Unz

    Jeffrey Sachs is a long-time member of the globalist Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He is a major promoter of the CFR/UN/WEF “sustainable development” agenda, and was a key player during the “restructuring” of Russia and the rise of the oligarchs in the 1990s.

    Perhaps the CFR scriptwriters, who also control the US media, have decided to begin pointing the finger at China in preparation for the next act. CFR players on the “Biden team” include the secretaries of State, Treasury, Defense, Commerce, Agriculture and ‘Homeland Security’. Also the CIA director, Fed chair, ambassador to China, and dozens more.

    • Replies: @JohnSmith
    , @Paul C.
  151. @Wizard of Oz

    Wizz, Zionazi Israeli Death Force sappers aka ‘art students’, are experts at controlled demolition. Just like shelling a refugee camp-oops-peas.

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
  152. JohnSmith says:
    @JohnSmith

    Note that Sachs did *not* say that the virus itself “originated in a US biolab”, but rather that it may have been developed “out of US lab biotechnology”. Sachs is helping shift the public discussion back to the “lab leak” theory, and it is already well-documented that this “technology” had been shared with the researchers at the Wuhan lab prior to 2019.

  153. @Triteleia Laxa

    you will and continue your heroically deranged 8 year descent from eccentric, to object of pity, to laughing stock.

    Ad personam fallacy. You lost the argument.

    The article you are quoting is a pure anti-chinese propaganda. And there is not even a mention of Fort Detrick and what happened there.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  154. denk says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Carlson is a FANATIC Sinophobe racist. His current series on Chinese ‘colonisation’ of Africa and South America is DEMENTED in its hate-mongering

    Yet the mother fucker is a national hero in USAss,
    what does it says about the gringo ,those ‘wn’ in particular ?

    As for ‘Chinese colonisation in Africa’,
    why dont these white trash ask the Africans themselves ?

    African youths make it clear they prefer China over US

    But hey, according to white trash like Carlson and his fan base..

    the Africans are ‘too stupid to make the right choice’ without white mans’ guidance

    Yeah sure, three centuries of white gawd’s burden to civilise the black, the yellows…
    still going strong.

    hehehe

    https://johnmenadue.com/african-youths-make-it-clear-they-prefer-china-over-us/

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  155. Paul C. says:
    @JohnSmith

    Correct. Sachs has long been on the payroll of the globalists. He’s a disinformation agent. But, as you suggest, we can use his comments to understand where they’re trying to steer the narrative and surmise why.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  156. profnasty says:
    @profnasty

    CBS Live at 16:00.
    Obvious manipulation.
    No Plane.

    • Agree: Iris
  157. profnasty says:
    @profnasty

    CBS Live at 16:00.
    Obvious manipulation.
    No Plane.

    Witnessed Live. No plane.

  158. @Justrambling

    Yes. Of course you still need investigation to obtain definitive proof. Good reasons to be suspicious are not the same as proof of guilt. Ron Unz is right to cast suspicion and call for investigation but he overstates the evidence as proof of guilt. That’s why a serious investigation is necessary. [email protected]

  159. @profnasty

    Towers, what towers? They were just holograms.

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @dimples
  160. @Iris

    it is impossible to bring down high-rise steel structure with a plane crashing.

    That’s a straw man argument. What if the planes crashing start fires which burn for hours at temperatures capable of weakening steel?

    • Replies: @JackOH
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  161. @mulga mumblebrain

    Didn’t you notice that it was where Sachs and Harrison’s article that Ron highlights was published?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  162. @denk

    I’m surprised that there is only a small difference in that survey in favour of China! Of course it is a great pity for the world that the suggestion of Sir Francis Galton in an 1864 letter to The Times headed “Africa for the Chinese” was not followed up then.

    • Replies: @denk
  163. Dnought says:
    @Iris

    A Boeing 757 weighs 20X as much as an old B-25 bomber, and carries much more fuel in its tanks (11,000 gallons vs. 600 gallons). Again, almost 20X as much fuel.

  164. denk says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You mean the shockingly high % of Africans who still like the gringo, after centuries of genocides, coups, assasinations perpetrated on their land ?

    Now you know the grip of anglophone propaganda on ‘world opinion’ !

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @Yee
  165. @Olivier1973

    Curious that you said ad personam rather than ad hominem which is the normal idiom. It made me wonder if an ad hominem argument /attackis indeed necessarily fallacious. I don’t think so. It may not, after all, even purport to deal with the specifics of the argument propounded by the hominem attacked.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  166. @denk

    If the Africans were historically minded they might have looked at the 19th century and said “thank G it was the Brits. If it had been the Chinese Empreror’s people my great g grandfather might have been a handsome black eunuch in the Emperor’s court”.

  167. Yee says:
    @denk

    The US pay \$2,000 US dollars per article in Africa for journalists to produce anti-China propaganda…

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @denk
  168. JackOH says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You’ll find support for your thinking in Men of Steel by Karl Koch III. Karl Koch’s company erected the steel framework for the World Trade Center towers.

  169. Iris says:
    @Yee

    Do you have a source for this? I am really interested: in every discussion I had, the only people ever accusing China of predatory behaviour in Africa are always non-Africans, and mostly citizens of former colonising countries, which makes it all the more incongruous.

    • Replies: @Yee
  170. We’ve rehashed this a million times. Unz prefers his rogue biowarfare thesis which is certainly possible. Some people like to blame the USA (Ft. Detrick). Then there are people like me, who advocate what might be called the plain vanilla Lab origin conjecture. In support of this, allow me to rehash some of the best circumstantial evidence:

    1. Wuhan has multiple labs (WIV being the main suspect) that were known to have a huge collection of bat viruses, to include multiple possible precursors to SARS-CoV-2.

    2. WIV (and many other institutes worldwide) were known to research these viruses, to include gain of function research, for many years. Folks, this wasn’t a secret, it’s openly published academic research you can consult from your own web browser.

    3. The USA funded such research through multiple means; perhaps the most infamous is EcoHealth. Again, plenty of paper trail available.

    4. The Chinese behavior when the news first broke sure sounds like an attempt at cover-up. That’s an extremely odd way for an innocent party to behave.

    5. The behavior of Fauci and others at NIH in early 2020 was later well-documented. Hasty conferences, at least two quick publications avowing a natural origin and quickly dismissing any possibility of synthetic origin denounced? That sure sounds like ass covering to me.

    Possibly other evidence too. This still doesn’t rule out deliberate intent, a false flag, etc. But as I have already noted, at least 4 of those 5 above claims are irrefutable evidence. There’s also plenty of reason to suspect shadowy involvement (e.g. intelligence, or military) in the above, but of course that’s much more difficult to prove.

    Why make the explanation more complicated than it need be?

  171. @michael888

    While not the strongest evidence favoring artificial origin, to the best of my knowledge, in 2 1/2 years no plausible candidate for a natural origin of SARS-CoV-2 has come forward.

    Apparently the more or less latest flavor too, may be the results of lab manipulation. As I understand the issues, Omicron is far too “different” to have suddenly appeared late 2021 in South Africa; since 2019 the virus’s “family tree” has been well studied, and Omicron doesn’t fit what’s known of other variants.

    https://www.stopgof.com/english/omicron-origin/

  172. @Desert Fox

    I’m in agreement that the “pandemic” has been manipulated for money and power. However the disease itself being a “myth and illusion?” Well, I guess I was hallucinating these past few weeks, with a mild case of something that gave me a headache and a fever. I tested positive with a home test twice, today negative. But I still have a lingering sinus infection and cough, now beginning week #4. All in my head?

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  173. @Ben the Layabout

    Many things present with a fever and headache. My question is, what sort of test are you using? And how do you know that test is useful for detection of Covid?

    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
  174. @Commentator Mike

    Experts have, or at least should have, great knowledge in their specialty. What is all too easily assumed is that all their pronouncements, even in their field of knowledge, are not exempt from all the limitations that plague regular human beings. Not the least of these is that they could still be WRONG. Probably a more common failing, and discouraged from discussion in polite company, are the myriad motives a person might have for telling only part of the truth, a half-truth, or outright lying. Among the more obvious reasons for that might be the very rational desire for a person to keep his job, his career, his freedom or in extremis, even his life, or even just his circle of friends at the country club.”You’re no expert, what right have you to opine on this topic?” is more likely an attempt to choke off a difficult line of questioning, rather than an honest response to intellectual debate.

    Corollary: Just because a person does not have specialized knowledge in one field does not preclude his being able to make inferences, draw conclusions, many of which are likely close approximations of the truth, if not the exact truth, of complex matters. If this were not true, then most of us would be completely helpless with nearly any everyday task, much less the more complex concepts that ordinary humans deal with.

    • Agree: JackOH
    • Replies: @JackOH
  175. @Jefferson Temple

    You’ve evidently never visited a Scandinavian country. Unless one is rich and/or has a generous expense account, you won’t be able to afford much after you’ve paid for your hotel room. 😎 Take my sarcasm as you will; I’ve visited those nations, but most of my lodging was a tent or at best a youth hostel.

    • Replies: @Jefferson Temple
  176. @Iris

    Whoa there buddy, that is a false dichotomy if ever I saw one. Yes, one can claim a distinction between research for academic or open research purposes, and secret military bio-weapon research, regardless of whether it’s ostensibly for “defensive” (allowed) or offense (illegal) ends. In either case the underlying technology (gain of function of a virus, in this example) are identical.

    Tools have no agency. You might as well argue there’s a difference between a 5.56 mm rifle round, depending upon whether it’s fired in a civilian rifle used for sport or in a military weapon (M-16 in this case). The technology is identical. Any difference is purely in the end use of the item.

    Credit where due: Perhaps I’m splitting hairs? You raised valid points. Why can’t the truth be some combination? Much of the GoF research was/is openly done and documented. A lot of it is funded by various public monies. It is reasonable to suspect, but of course difficult to impossible to know, that similar classified research goes on too.

    One of the biggest, most dismaying aspects of the Covid-19 fiasco is how little investigation is being done, most likely because the powers that be prefer that few or no questions be asked. A lot of the information is publicly available or at least unclassified, otherwise we’d know next to nothing about any of this.

  177. JackOH says:
    @Ben the Layabout

    Fine comment, sir. I’m sort of an insider-observer at my local Podunk Tech. It took me years to understand how our university professors exploit their “positional advantage”—when they wish to—to conceal their subject matter ignorance, to conceal intellectual or moral cowardice, to conceal their laziness, etc.

    • Thanks: Ben the Layabout
  178. What will all this mean 10 yrs from now?

  179. @Ben the Layabout

    That’s a good point. I thought that Iceland might be an interesting place to vacation some day. Then I found out that it is the most expensive tourist destination in the world. So, no. Probably best to resign myself to checking out regions of my own country that I’ve not yet seen.

  180. Is Jeffrey Sachs Jewish?

    • Replies: @Ben the Layabout
  181. denk says:
    @Yee

    USAss MO in Africa, Asia, South America…
    Sponsor local elites to study in USAss think tanks, unis, journos to understudy in NYT, WARsj, military officers to train in SOA, West Point etc.

    Back home these USAss nurtured elites would be the future king, prez, opposition leaders, MSM editors, minister of defence or …coup plotters.

    Exhibit A
    The leader of last yrs coup in mineral rich Africa Guinea was an alumni of USAss SOA.

    Andre Vltchek had a good account on USAss shenanigans in Africa and beyond.

    Local newspapers in Africa and elsewhere are overzealously printing pieces tailored for local consumption but designed and paid for from abroad. Journalists who join anti-Chinese choir get rewards – frequent trips abroad for ‘training’, awards and visas to the West. The same is happening in Oceania and in Southeast Asia. Temptations are too great, punishments for stepping out of line too harsh.

    https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3147901/china-may-turn-australia-bauxite-after-guinea-coup-stokes

    https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/the-west-perfecting-its-techniques-to-hurt-china-by-andre-vltchek/

  182. @Jefferson Temple

    I can actually answer that. The test used is the “iHealth Covid-19 Antigen Rapid Test Model ICO-3000.” I realize the tests aren’t perfect, but of three tests, two indicated positive, one negative, so clearly it has some type of test ability. Despite their corruption and failings elsewhere, I still have some confidence in the FDA certifying this test as fit for its designated use.

    My symptoms were highly consistent with the most recent Omicron variant. They were less consistent with common cold and flu symptoms. (Per WebMD, CDC and similar sites.)

    None of the above proves beyond any possible doubt that I had a bout of Covid, but seems to me I have pretty good grounds. Now, I can’t prove that I really had a peak temperature of 101.0 degrees F. But again, like the antigen test, the behavior of my thermometer seems consistent. I had a low-grade fever several days (99-100 range). Past week has been a few tenths below 98.6. This cheap thermometer was obtained at a local drug store, so I think it’s unlikely that the unit has been calibrated at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. But it still seems reasonably accurate.

    If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s probably not a pterodactyl.

    • Thanks: Jefferson Temple
  183. denk says:

    USAss military ,

    Is Ebola an opportunity to compete with China for military control in Africa ?

    Africom

    Al Qaeda offers an opporunity to drive out the chicoms

    Hey, didja know that the tsunami disaster’s a wonderful opportunity Now ya know.
    US Secretary of State Rice bluntly told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in January 2005

    the tsunami constituted “a wonderful opportunity to show not just the US government, but the heart of the American people… And I think it has paid great dividends for us.”

    [MORE]

    911
    Even as the poisonous smoke was still rising from the ruins of the World Trade Center in September 2001, Bush giddily declared that

    “through my tears, I see opportunity.

    Heritage Foundation on Haiti quake,

    The U.S. response to the tragic earthquake in Haiti earthquake offers opportunities to re-shape Haiti’s long-dysfunctional government and economy as well as to improve the public image of the United States in the region.

    Klaus Schwab

    The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world to create a healthier, more equitable, and more prosperous future” —

    Tip of an iceberg

    Opportunities abound whenever USAss covet an intervention, some terrorists or pandemic would pop up at the right time !

    A case of gawd favors the land of ‘brave’,
    [cough, cough..]

    Or gawd helps those who help themselves ?

    —————
    Ian Fleming;s fundamental law of probability..
    Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, thrice means enemy action.

    PS
    littleredot
    Sach is a Jew.

  184. @littlereddot

    Yes, according to his Wikipedia bio. I copied your question to Google, and it was the first hit.

    How this slipped through the filter that is supposed to hide the fact that ((they)) secretly control the entire world, is beyond me. 😃

  185. @Ben the Layabout

    You’re not ‘plain vanilla’-you’re plain racist.

  186. @Wizard of Oz

    I rather think that you are exhibiting your brainwashing, again, Wizz. Jet fuel fires can get nowhere near as hot as is required to weaken steel. And the Towers were massively reinforced by multiple exterior and interior columns, one reason that they were slated for demolition, as the floor space was severely restricted by said columns. Whereas jet fuel, basically kerosene, can’t do it, nano-thermite burns through steel like a knife through hot butter, as the columns cut through at an angle in true demolition fashion, showed.

  187. @Wizard of Oz

    Well Wizz, there IS a difference between the ‘Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences’, PNAS and the CNAS the ‘Centre for a New American Security’, which I plainly got confused with the late(?) unlamented, PNAC. Mea minima culpa. Hoist on my own retard.

  188. Jeffrey Sachs (Shock therapy) is a Soros operative. Both have long standing ties to British intel.

    Is somebody trying to rewrite the narrative by hiding the British role in the Covid thing?

  189. Nietzsche says:
    @Ron Unz

    “Sachs was openly saying that COVID started as a US biolab leak”….

    This raises a very obvious question: How does a leak from a US biolab end up in China?

  190. Iris says:
    @Priss Factor

    You should stick to “Ukrainian grandmas surviving the pogroms“, obituaries of “righteous Jews”, “science” articles from the Times of Israel, and other highly-intellectual topics of the same outstanding calibre.

    Civil engineering is definitely not your forte, and neither is this poorly contrived common sense you display. Your 9/11 buffoonery comes too late in the day.

  191. dimples says:
    @Commentator Mike

    It’s great to read Mr Dinh again. It’s too bad he was driven from Unz by too many loons.

  192. dimples says:
    @Ben the Layabout

    “Why make the explanation more complicated than it need be?”

    Totally agree. Although the lab leak theory might not be the final truth, all evidence points to it so its good enough since the final truth will never be known. The Unz Covid-19 Biowarfare Narrative, besides being implausible has unprovability built right into it. So he has an impossible task getting traction for it except amongst the loons.

  193. dimples says:
    @Priss Factor

    I agree the towers were not actually there, it is the simplest and most scientifically parsimonious explanation. If the towers were there then it becomes more complicated.

  194. denk says:

    Remember all those ‘drills’ that went live ?

    Lates being that WEF simulation of global pandemic
    2019 ?

    [MORE]

    ————————–
    Haiti quake…

    What script is the US military-intelligence structure following here? As it turns out, a very particular one prepared in advance: a Haiti “disaster relief scenario” was envisaged by the US military one day before the earthquake. The Pentagon’s Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) happened to be at the headquarters of the U.S. Southern Command in Miami preparing to run a “simulation” that involved providing relief to Haiti in the wake of a hurricane. Next day the earthquake happens, and Southern Command decides to “go live” with the integrated military response system it was supposedly “testing.” Does that remind you of anything? Operation Vigilant Guardian on 9/11? The London Underground exercise on 7/7?

    The highly coordinated and massive military response from the US makes sense if it took only one “switch” to mobilize 20,000 US troops, an aircraft carrier, the USS Bataan prison ship, CIA drones and a vast array of high-tech equipment in what is unmistakably a sophisticated plan of invasion. Other revelations compound the sinister implications of the Pentagon’s “exercise.” Lt. Gen. Ken Keen, deputy director of U.S. Southern Command, flew into Port-au-Prince on the morning of the 12th and was outdoors along with all but one of his team of officers when the quake struck at 5pm. Keen is now overseeing U.S. military operations as commander of Joint Task Force Haiti. The Times reported that the British government withdrew its navy from the Caribbean only weeks before, making it the “first time that the Royal Navy has had a significant gap in cover in the Caribbean since the 17th century.” Tiny Haiti is home to the 4th largest embassy in the American empire, a gargantuan fortress built to withstand earthquakes and relocated away from the city following the 2004 coup d’état. The new “embassy” is now located in the Tabarre suburb, conveniently close to Toussaint Louverture International Airport.

    https://www.sott.net/article/202731-Connecting-the-Dots-Mass-murder-in-Haiti-plane-madness-in-the-skies

    • Replies: @xcd
  195. @Wizard of Oz

    Wizz, you old fossil. Ad hominem is ‘to the man’ ie a cis-male. Hideously transphobic exclusionary. Ad personam ‘to the person’ ie one of 182 known genders, is now the correct usage. Lift your game, comrade!

    • Replies: @Johan
  196. Sam J. says:

    Don’t you people see what is going on?

    Jeffrey Sachs is a Jew. He’s really covering up for the Jews making the virus to attack China and blaming it on the US. So they attack China, make super bucks from the poison vax and kill off lots of Chinese and Americans. If you think like the Jews, everyone should be killed off but them, then it’s easy to recognize the moves they make.

    Also if you think like this then you would know the Chinese have figured this out. If so, and I think this is so, then the constant Chinese lock-downs make 100% perfect sense. They know the Jews are using biological and viral warfare on them and each virus that shows up they have no idea if it’s “the big one” that will literally spread like wildfire and wipe them completely out. The only 100% sure way of stopping it is to lock everything down and see what happens in the locked down area.

    Think about the hemorrhagic fever that broke out in North China. What happened about that??? It killed a bunch of people but they stopped it with lock downs. Ebola is a virus like that. It is horrible and contagious. In Africa when this sort of thing breaks out they lock the infected in a room, take care them the best they can but do not let them out until dead or they survive. If engineered, it could be even more deadly by having a delayed response.

    There is a large amount of circumstantial evidence that the Jews built corona. Not the least is that the Harvard Jew who secretly set up the lab in Wuhan for the Chinese and his students caught trying to smuggle biological material from the US to China. How much you want to bet that the Harvard Jew had a hand in the basic thrust of Chinese research. How convenient. The Jews set up a Chinese lab. Get them to study a hazardous material that they have already weaponized. The Jews release the weaponized virus. Don’t forget that several leaders in Iran broke out with the same virus, and some died at roughly the same time as in China. So now the Jews have released the virus they blame it on…China…the US anyone but the real culprits the Jews.

    Stop and use even the slightest common sense. For the US to be involved in releasing a dangerous engineered virus into China is stupid. It makes no tactical or strategic sense at all. The Chinese could do exact the same and with the US completely porous borders and lack of central control it could wipe us out. The US though losing power is still, or was, in a very powerful position. This sort of Hail Mary attack is not in our interest. We don’t in any way need to start a world wide biological war to deal with China. Therefore, we didn’t do it. It never happened.

    The only people that benefit from the engineered virus is the Jews. They apparently thought they could hollow out the US and then move to China. It appears the Chinese have totally nixed that idea. Knowing the Jews and their take no prisoners behavior and their constant attempts to pit one group against another, it’s obvious that the Jews did this and are now blaming both China and the US for attacking each other.

  197. Sam J. says:
    @Paul C.

    “Sachs has long been on the payroll of the globalists. He’s a disinformation agent. But, as you suggest, we can use his comments to understand where they’re trying to steer the narrative and surmise why. ”

    So WHO is he most likely working for? The answer is the Jews. And if the Jews are trying to hang corona on the US then WHO is most likely to have done it? You know the answer.

    People, if you will just assume the Jews are a tribe of psychopaths then you will easily be able to understand all their moves. Now I’m not saying every Jew is a psychopath but I am saying that a bunch of Jews moving into your country is in no way distinguishable from a tribe of psychopaths moving into your country.

  198. Johan says:

    The origin is a matter of speculative theories of hobby boys who have too much time on their hands, or are paid or otherwise stimulated by those who have too much time, too few hobby’s, and too small minds. These Sherlock Holmes, trying to emulate the master by producing master theories are probably sitting in the cellar of their mother’s house, or hiding somewhere in their house from their wives, when producing the theories.

    What matters is what the authorities could do with it, and why they are in that position.

  199. Johan says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Comrade? are you a commi?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  200. Jeffrey Sachs, who chairs Covid-19 commission at the prestigious medical journal, has claimed the deadly virus did not come out of nature

    Really, Jeff, it’s obvious that the”deadly virus” (almost as deadly as ordinary annual seasonal flu strains) came out of the fevered imagination of some dimwit. Covid is entirely imaginary. Wake up already.

  201. It is interesting that Jeffrey Sachs, states that there is no conclusive evidence to prove where the Covid Virus originated from, however, in the same paragraph, he says that there is enough info to show that it came from the U.S. He is sitting on the proverbial fence, swaying both ways. The fact of the matter is that both the U.S., and China are responsible for this bioweapon, and it was created in one of China’s provinces in a laboratory. It was originally created in Huwangdong Province, and later transferred to another lab in Wuhan Province.

  202. xcd says:
    @IronForge

    In 2015, US scientists modified the virus to damage lung cells.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

  203. xcd says:
    @denk

    Thanks for adding to my list.

  204. Alfred says:

    How does this article fit in with the following? Hint. It does not.

    The earliest reported infection, discovered in a preserved nasopharyngeal sample of a 4 year-old boy, happened before 21 November 2019 – in Milan (MI). By November at the latest, we can be confident that the virus was circulating in Milan. By the time of this map, though, the hot spots all appear to be in a roughly equidistant ring around Milan. By the end of February, the only places the virus is still accelerating, is in the still further outlying regions – places like Como, Mantova and Sondrio. It looks for all the world like the virus had burned through Milan without anybody noticing at all, and when the Tomas Pueyos of the world descended upon us with their mass testing and their lockdowns, they were a few months too late. The hotspots they found were secondary infection sites at best.

    The Earliest Days of the Italian Pandemic, or: Why Nobody Wants To Talk About February 2020 Anymore

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