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The moment when Jeb said to a New Hampshire audience “Please clap.” Credit: Vdare
The moment when Jeb said to a New Hampshire audience “Please clap.” Credit: Vdare

In retrospect, it all looks so inevitable. Jeb Bush’s campaign failed because he was a “woeful candidate”. [Who killed Jeb Bush’s Campaign? Jeb Did, by John Cassidy, The New Yorker, February 22, 2016] His staff blundered with an “epic misread of a GOP base hostile to any establishment candidate, especially one with his baggage-weighted last name”. [Inside Jeb Bush’s $150 Million Failure, by Eli Stokols, Politico, February 20, 2016]And Jeb was a “fundamentally miscast” man who never really had a chance [Jeb Bush never really had a chance in the 2016 presidential race, by Chris Cillizza, Washington Post, February 21, 2016].

That’s what they say now. But the truth is that Jeb Bush was an entirely viable frontrunner. The smart-money prediction a year ago was that a center-right candidate with party backing and deep pockets could lock up the nomination. This is traditionally how it works in the Republican Party. As Politico’s Mike Allen memorably put it a year ago, “barring a major disruption in the force field” the candidate would be Jeb Bush. [Playbook, February 25, 2015]

At the center of Jeb’s appeal: his supposed fundraising prowess. Reporters marveled at a “ruthlessly assembled” juggernaut that “will be impossible for any of the other 2016 GOP presidential hopefuls to emulate and could easily go stride for stride with the legendary Clinton fundraising machine”. [Jeb Bush’s Wall Street Advantage, by Charlie Gasparino, Fox Business, March 25, 2015]

Indeed, Bush scored a huge political triumph before the race even began by muscling Mitt Romney out of the race. Romney’s inability to consolidate the campaign operatives and major donors needed to run another huge campaign was seen not just as a sign of Romney’s weakness, but Bush’s strength. [Romney’s Withdrawal Is a Reflection of Bush’s Strength, by Nate Cohn, New York Times,January 30, 2015] And having chased away the last Republican nominee, Bush’s backers promised a “shock and awe” fundraising campaign that would intimidate any other potential challengers [Inside Jeb’s ‘shock and awe’ launch, by Ben White and Marc Caputo, Politico, February 18, 2015].

Early in the campaign, Jeb Bush had a commanding lead among Republican candidates [Jeb Bush surges to lead GOP pack in new 2016 poll, by Chuck Todd and Mark Murray, MSNBC, June 22, 2015]. And while some analysts expressed doubts that the primary would be a coronation, Bush was expected to be able to win the nomination by consolidating moderate voters, just as John McCain and Mitt Romney were able to do [Jeb Bush launches 2016 presidential bid, by Peter Hamby and Chris Moody, CNN, June 15, 2015].

And this may well have happened–were it not for the arrival of Donald J. Trump. Ted Cruz would have been regarded as unelectable and radical, even by many conservatives. Marco Rubio and Bush would have dueled about who would have been more likely to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform. And voter turnout would be low, as the America dreaded the inevitable Bush versus Clinton race.

But that’s not what happened, and the Main Stream Media still doesn’t fully understand why. Lost in the MSM’s focus on Jeb’s awkward personality, his catastrophic campaign strategy, and the baggage of the Bush name are two critical factors:

  • The immigration issue.
  • The emergence of a candidate who placed it at the center of his campaign.

Bush didn’t fail because he was a terrible candidate. He failed because Donald Trump took him out and shifted the Overton Window.

Trump gleefully attacked Jeb Bush from the start of the campaign, drawing a contrast between the candidates on immigration. Rather than hitting back, Bush simply tried to ignore the attacks, assuming they wouldn’t stick. [Jeb Bush’s doomed campaign, by Ashley Killough, CNN, February 22, 2016]

Indeed, incredible as it now seems, many analysts at the time thought Trump was actually helping Jeb. Trump was expected to somehow “implode” on his own, thus allowing Bush to simply inherit the nomination [Here’s How/Why Jeb Bush Will Win The GOP Nomination, by Andy Ostroy, Huffington Post, November 19, 2015]

When Donald Trump first started rising in the polls, Andrew Prokop of Vox argued Trump was great news for Jeb Bush, because “GOP insiders will break the emergency glass so he’ll be extinguished,” thus protecting Jeb, the “leading alternative” [Donald Trump’s rise is great newsfor Jeb Bush, July 14, 2015]. As Prokop now admits, “Yeah… that didn’t hold up so well [I thought the rise of Donald Trump would be great for Jeb Bush. Wow, was I wrong. February 23, 2016].

The truth is that Jeb Bush was, as many now recognize, the “perfect foil,” a prim, proper, Politically Correct scion of the ruling caste that white working class Republicans love to hate. [Donald Trump’s Perfect Foil, by Peter Beinart, Atlantic,February 22, 2016]

And it wasn’t just class hatred. It was also provoked by a substantive policy difference.

As Michael Warren admitted at The Weekly Standard:

The raison d’être of Donald Trump’s campaign is immigration, specifically how the country needs to stop illegal immigration, prevent more of it from happening, and punish those who have taken advantage of the lax security. He has reached and spoken to those voters in the white working class and beyond who see illegal immigrants taking away their economic security and their culture. And he has savaged those elites who have turned blind eyes to the law-breaking while preferring laws that would encourage more immigration.

[Donald Trump Loses His Perfect Foil – Jeb Bush, February 20, 2016]

But it’s not just that Trump is defined by immigration. It’s that immigration is linked to a host of related “National Conservative” issues, including trade, outsourcing, “Political Correctness,” and a sense of national decline. Trump’s slogan of “Make America Great Again” taps into a powerful reservoir of feeling among those Americans who feel betrayed by their own leaders.

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It’s for this reason that the MSM seems to be panicking. Thus Vox’s Ezra Klein is making unintentionally hilarious videos essentially warning us Trump will become a dictator and crush the American Left forever. (Here’s hoping.) And Danielle Allen at the Washington Post has a particularly overwrought display comparing Trump to the rise of Hitler and calling for a bipartisan effort to stop Trump in the Republican primary. [The moment of truth: We must stop Trump, February 21, 2016]

Allen also makes the crucial admission–that Leftists are afraid Trump will beat Hillary (“Democrats, your leading candidate is too weak to count on as a firewall. She might be able to pull off a general election victory against Trump, but then again she might not. Too much is uncertain this year.”)

There’s a palpable sense Trump is unleashing a long suppressed nationalism capable of sweeping all before it.

It’s therefore particularly striking that Conservatism Inc. is picking this moment to urge their deluded followers to support anyone other than Trump. And, as I predicted, they seem most eager to support Marco Rubio.

Cuckservative Erick Erickson has endorsed both Cruz and Rubio in an attempt to stop Trump. [For President of the United States, I Endorse, The Resurgent,February 23, 2016]

Token Conservative columnist Matt Lewis openly urges a corrupt bargain in which every candidate other than Trump conspires to prevent him from winning delegates, all so they can take the nomination away from him in a brokered convention. [To Stop Trump, Study the Whigs’ 1836 Strategy?, Daily Caller,February 23, 2016]

And in a bizarre piece, parasitic consultant Curt Anderson writes at National Review that every other candidate must drop out of the race so Marco Rubio can, maybe, stop Donald Trump. And if “the Gang of Eight thing sticks in your craw?”

You have to decide—are you a conservative? Or just a grudge-holder? Does it matter if we rebuild America and stop the crazy leftward lurch toward moral relativism?

[Memo to Conservatives—Time Is Short, You Must Act Now, February 23, 2016]

In other words, to Conservatism Inc., immigration isn’t really an important issue compared to fighting “moral relativism” and defending “conservatism.” And all this overwrought rhetoric on the very day it came out that Rubio was snubbing the Beltway Right’s most prized gathering, the Conservative Political Action Convention (CPAC) . [Marco Rubio Plans to Skip CPAC, by Matthew Boyle,Breitbart, February 23, 2016]

The takeaway from all of this: the Beltway Right has learned nothing from the fall of Jeb Bush.

Bush epitomized a corrupt elite He was openly contemptuous of his own people. An Amnesty/Immigration Surge was his top public policy priority. But rather than being humbled by his fall, the Beltway Right seems bizarrely emboldened. They now openly acknowledge they are willing to sacrifice everything, even victory in November, as long as it means stopping Donald Trump.

They are overplaying their hand. Jeb Bush showed all the money and organization in the world means nothing if there is not a market for what you are selling. His fall was a product of substance, not just style.

Conservatism Inc. seems determined to make the same mistake, taking its constituency for granted rather than trying to serve its interests.

If Trump conquers the GOP in the name of frustrated nationalists and patriotic conservatives, the Beltway Right can’t say they weren’t warned.

James Kirkpatrick [Email him] is a Beltway veteran and a refugee from Conservatism Inc.

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  1. Leftist conservative [AKA "Trump Kills Last Mosquito, Places Tiny Make America Great Hat On ZikaHead Baby"] says: • Website
  2. Twirlip says:

    Danielle Allen at the Washington Post has a particularly overwrought display comparing Trump to the rise of Hitler and calling for a bipartisan effort to stop Trump in the Republican primary.

    I just read that article, and it is identical in tone and substance to most of what you’ll find at America’s “conservative flagship”, National Review. The Uniparty is really showing its true colors these days.

  3. I thought JEB was supposed to be the smart one. Who started that?

    Trump is a cat amongst the pigeons. The grandees and high poobaughs have been blind sided. Citizens United was supposed to rid them once and for all of pesky voters. Yet here is the lumpen proletariat making waves. I thought American electoral politics would never be fun again. I was wrong.

  4. Beckow says:

    True, I would add that the establishment Republicans have no choice: open borders and ever more immigrant labor are the glue that is holding their economic policy together. Immigrant surge – from manual workers to H1B visas to a flood of immigrants through college admissions – is what has created a permanent over-supply of labor in almost all fields.

    Without de facto open borders, the labor market would slowly come back to a balance, and then what? The employers would have to actually worry about how much to pay, what benefits to offer, what are the work conditions, there could be high turnover, all kinds of labor issues would again pop up as they used to a generation or two ago.

    The immigration policies are not accidental, or cultural, they are the core element needed to keep the neo-liberal economics in place. The problem is that in a democracy at some point people are hard to fool anymore. How many times can assorted Bushes or Clintons go on about the coming “golden age”, how education is going to fix it all, how opportunities are somehow created by taking away opportunities, about “new economy”, or any other nonsense that has been used for years. What Trump did is to cut through this nonsense and state the obvious. And that they will never forgive.

  5. EdwardM says:

    Agree that they have learned nothing. Here is another piece, from September, making the same Immigration + Perfect Foil argument about how Trump extinguished Bush:

    http://rightwise.org/2015/09/17/trump-would-not-exist-without-jeb-bush/

  6. iffen says:

    Ain’t no fun when the rabbit got the gun.

  7. Sherman says:

    For all the talk about Trump being a nationalist and economic populist I can’t help but wonder how much immigrant labor he’s used over the years to construct his buildings or to change bedsheets at his hotels.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  8. bjondo says:

    republicans arent conservatives. they are bought and paid for whores for israel and wall st.

    they will start a war-for-jewry at the drop of a bagel or the smell of pickled carp.

    call republicans what they are: jew pets.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  9. Rehmat says:

    In American political dictionary; Conservatism means “applying White Christian fundamentalism in support of the Zionist regime”. Jeb Bush, who was very popular among White supremacist/Zionist/Jewish groups as a Governor, was stabbed from behind by fellow “Conservative” Donald Trump for being younger brother of the president who was involved in 9/11 terrorist attacks and blaming it on Israel/Saudi Arabian Muslim pasties.

    In October 2015, in an interview with Stephanie Ruhle, managing editor and anchor for ‘Bloomberg Television’, Trump said: “When you talk about George Bush, I mean, say what you want, the World Trade Center came down his time.”

    The ‘political incorrect statement’, turned Donald Trump from an American patriot to a ‘conspiracy theorist. All other US presidential hopefuls belong to both Republican and Democrats condemned Trump for accusing US administration of collaborating with the terrorists.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/10/18/donald-trump-blames-bush-for-911/

  10. Mention of Hitler should frighten all those frightened of a Trump victory. Why? Not because he is like Hitler but because, if Hitler could get himself elected in 1933 in Germany it should be relatively easy for Trump to get himself elected in 2016 America. And part of the reason is suggested by facts of human nature being exhibited in 1933 as they always have been when there is opportunity. A significant number of the German rich and upper classes thought they could manage Hitler and do deals with the Nazis. How long will it be before some of Trump’s conservative opponents break ranks and try to get in first as the ones to do the deals with him in return for removing any chance of his losing the Republican nomination?

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @KA
    , @Art
  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @bjondo

    Yes, ZIB’s, Zionist Israel Bitches . . . and I imagine true Torah Jews would agree.

  12. iffen says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Are you the same person that writes under this moniker each time?

    The “rich and upper classes” are not behind Trump. They are going scorched earth in an effort to defeat his nomination. (I still don’t believe that the Republican Convention will nominate him.) The attempt to associate Hitler and racists with Trump is meant to frighten the dim-witted, just as it has been for years.

  13. Ragno says:

    Given that the innate ridiculousness of the sight of ¡Jeb! & Columba walking together would have made him a laughing-stock on every tarmac he might choose to land on, it’s best for America he call it a campaign. No matter what country you might care to name, rich or poor, first world or shithole, foreign potentates and dignitaries’d be killin’ themselves laughing at the closed-circuit slapstick comedy of the lumbering lummox holding the hand of his high-heeled Hispanic homunculus, looking like Herman Munster and Dr Ruth on their way to a pie fight.

  14. KA says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    There is a reason the cuckservatives or the carpetbaggers from desolate Scopper Jackson Democrats land hate Trump. They didn’t join GOP and associate with conservatives to see their script getting tossed over in favor of anti war anti immigration inward looking nationalism .They ridiculed the conservatives ,forsake the values,threw some crumbs at the Evangelicals and populated the echo chamber of how great America is as long as it serves Israel,militarism,defense spending,and as long as it remains ready for war any war anywhere .
    They are afraid- If Trump could get away with the rhetorics ,who oneday can’t with more substantiative discussion on othe issues like supporting Israel waging war for Isrel.losing Iraq to further Israeli interests in Lebanon,Syria,and Gaza ? The discussion is like a small opening . It will be akin to M&W book – sraeli Lobby and American Foreign Policy. Yes no one wanted to publish it in US,no one want M&. W in their leftist academic circle , they can’t expect any government position or senior career advancement. They are pariah like Wesley Clarke . Wesley Clarke referred to ” New York Money” behind the campaign against Iran. TRUMP has broadened the scope of the urgently needed genuine discussion. Carpetbaggers from Scoper Jackson land and from Trostyikite land are afraid .

    Trump is Hitler so them . Yes that is no surmise. Hitler has been Hitler to them for eternity.

    • Replies: @Tommy Hobbes
  15. KA says:

    talking of waPo

    “Neoconservative Washington Post writer Jennifer Rubin is outraged that Chris Christie would endorse Donald Trump despite “months and months of careful coaching” in foreign policy by “outside… experts.” That’s how the Israel lobby works, by coaching politicians. This is what the neocons have successfully done with Marco Rubio: gotten him to be a robot on the Israel issue.

    Notice the Christie gaffe Rubin cites, that those experts helped him overcome:

    In fact, after months and months of careful coaching by outside foreign policy experts, his initial gaffes (e.g. “occupied territories” was how he referred to the West Bank) stopped and he became proficient on national security. One former adviser told me he “absolutely” would never have helped Christie had he known he would endorse Trump. He said of Christie’s endorsement, “It’s an absolute disgrace.” It is exactly that, because Christie knows better.

    It is deeply sad he would then sweep away months of high-minded speeches to enable a man he knows to be unfit for the presidency to attain that office at a time of such urgenc”

    – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2016/02/neocon-savages-christie-for-failing-months-and-months-of-careful-coaching-by-foreign-policy-experts/#sthash.wR3cJXrf.dpuf

  16. Who attacks Trump attacks middle and lower-middle class White America. Neither Rubio nor Cruz on the Republican side, nor Hillary Clinton on the Democrat side give a proverbial rats ass about some New Jersey blue collar ethnic or an Alabama redneck. If nominated, Trump could give La Madame a run for her money in general election but if ConInc. conspires to deny him the nomination it says here that he will go third-party–effectively sabotaging whatever chance the Republicans might have had to reclaim the White House.

    Which means that America will be inflicted with another Clinton, but in this case Richard Nixon in a pants suit and every bit as weird.

    And we know what happened to Nixon.

  17. DES says:

    One thing the article doesn’t mention, at least not explicitly, is that Bush didn’t seem very smart. Consider how he dealt with the question: “Would you have invaded Iraq if you knew then what we know now?” This was an obvious question that anyone with an ounce of political sense would have anticipated and had a ready answer for. And the answer was not all that difficult–e.g., “President Bush acted on the basis of the best intelligence he had available to him at the time. I would have made the same decision if I had the same intelligence but now, of course, we know that the intelligence was wrong. No, I would not have invaded if I knew what we know now.” A simple, straightforward answer that would not have been critical of his brother and yet would have assured the electorate that he would not be likely to get us into similar messes. Let others argue over whether the intelligence should have been believed. To most people, he would have answered the question. Instead, after fumbling around he compounded the problem with the improbable excuse that he didn’t understand the question!

    Is this someone we could have any confidence would be capable of dealing with the complex problems of the Middle Ease, healthcare, etc.? I don’t think so.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  18. Art says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    The notorious Jew hasbaraist – Mr. Wiz – is calling Trump – The New Hitler – oh my.

    We have come full circle – the Jew says – if you want “to make America great again” – you are fascist Nazi.

    What is Trump’s sin – he says that he wants to make peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Clearly peace is the Jews worst nightmare.

    How long will it be before the Jew’s MSM takes up this line of attack – calling white Trump supporters as fascist Hitlerian dolts.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
    , @Unz Reader
  19. Rehmat says:
    @Art

    It was Dr. Noam Chomsky who while praising his fellow Jew Bernie Sanders compared Donald Trump with Adolf Hitler during an interview he gave to Alternet website on February 24, 2016.

    Chomsky said the current global situation and economic uncertainty is also similar to what existed during the last century and gave momentum to fascist leaders like Hitler. “It’s interesting to compare the situation in the ‘30s, which I’m old enough to remember,” Chomsky said.

    Dr. Chomsky like Bernie Sanders is a Crypto Zionist. In August 2010, Noam Chomsky told Israeli Channel 2 News: “I regard myself a supporter of Israel.”

    Chomsky is a strong critic of US foreign policy. He believes in the discredited ‘official 9/11 story’. In his book, ‘9-11’, Chomsky criticized US foreign policy in the Middle East and its invasion of Afghanistan – but never mentioned Israel’s complicity in the tragedy. Chomsky is against Palestinians’ military resistance. He also favors the so-called ‘two-state’ solution and believes in Israel’s right to exist as ‘Jewish state’. Chomsky never publically questioned the Zionist version of the holocaust (‘Six Million Died’). Chomsky is against academic boycott of Israel. Chomsky doesn’t believe that the US foreign policy is controlled by the Jewish groups especially the AIPAC. Chomsky also doesn’t like Israel being compared with the former apartheid South Africa.

    American Jewish writer and blogger, Roger Tucker, in a 2010 ‘Open Letter to Uri Avnery, Noam Chomsky and Jimmy Carter‘, had claimed that they’re not friends of Palestinian – because they themselves were ‘Crypto-Zionists’ hiding behind the facade of ‘humanism’.

    Jeff Blankfort, former Jewish editor of the Middle East Labor Bulletin, a long time photographer and a frequent writer on Israel-Palestinian conflict – had called Chomsky a Double Agent in one of his 2005 articles.

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/09/06/chomsky-i-support-israel-but/

    • Replies: @Art
  20. Unfortunately – I note for anyone else unfortunate enough to find him or herself wasting time in the almost pathologically stupid Art’s posts – having him on my CTI list doesn’t stop Art’s ridiculous rants turning up in my Inbox. Has anyone a professional explanation or one from intuition, observation and experience of the working of the mind of such a Commenter who absurdly characterises me as calling Trump the new Hitler and, for that matter as hasbara? I have no knowledge of hasbara, though I understand it means something like organised Israeli trolling, but could it be that Art is one of them? The fact that he seems to be treated seriously by Rehmat is suggestive. If I were one of the 5 per cent of commenters I estimate to be holding down regular jobs I would resent this irritating time waster and I wonder why Ron allows his presence, though he (Art) could be providing material for a mini- thesis for some variety of pathologist to be.

    • Replies: @marwan
    , @Art
  21. @DES

    A well made point if I may say so. And your suggested safe answer would trump my unnecessarily complicated one that would concede the other damning criticism that the disbanding of the Iraqi army and dismissal of Baathists were fatal to success of the quixotic adventure.

  22. Art says:
    @Rehmat

    I know that Mr. Wiz is a bit player and that Chomsky is the real deal – a Big Jew, that when push comes to shove, always favors Israel.

    Of course Trump being Hitler is a giant lie. Hitler was a national socialist and militarist – Trump is hardly those things. (There is one parallel between the US today and Germany then, it is the pernicious Jew banking system.)

    The Jew BS just gets bigger and more divorced from reality.

    Someday all their lies will crash – then maybe, there will be an US Hitler.

    • Replies: @Sherman
  23. @iffen

    You normally pay closer attention. if you reread my post you will clearly see that you are misrepresenting my reasoning. As a rereading would show I picked up on the previous reference to suggest that if the appalling Hitler could win a plurality in Germany it should be relatively easy for Trump who is not even remotely in the same category of appalling to win. And my point about powerful Republican supporters trying to get in first to do deals with trump had absolutely nothing to do with any rich or upper class persons supporting him now. Comprende?

  24. marwan says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    I wonder why Ron allows his presence,

    There is a buck to be made by allowing your website to be a safe space for white nationalists .
    Let me explain . These guys are pariahs . Period . They cannot express their views in real life . Furthermore they are totally unrepresented in any way . The media , academia , pop culture , everybody maligns or ignores them . If they get any press its exclusively negative . They are not part of the discourse anywhere . Even online most comment sections of main stream or normal sites block their comments . So here and others have learned that there is a buck to be made from their web traffic and page views etc.

    White nationalists are also very loyal to those sites that allow them a voice . Even places like Heartieste and VNN that doesn’t allow advertising and etc , gets actual donations from these guys coz they are so grateful for a place to spew their hate . VNN gets like 3000 per month in donations or cry bully linder will shut it down and not allow posting until he meets his monthly quota .

    When these white nationalists do leave the house , and this is rare , the atrophy from constantly obsessing about jews and posting online and never getting fresh air gets the best of them and they pass out and and have to be helped to walk by black cops at kkk rallies !!!!!! Can they be more pathetic ??

    http://time.com/3963726/south-carolina-kkk-rally-black-cop/

    Speaking of KKK rallies , Rehmat , art , Svigor , goekat , annamarina et al , were any of you proud WN’S at the KKK rally today in anaheim ??
    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-klan-rally-in-anaheim-erupts-in-violence-one-man-stabbed-20160227-story.html

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @joe webb
    , @Art
    , @iffen
  25. Art says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Mr. Wiz – there was a recent article on HIQI – you fit the bill perfectly — Art

  26. @Sherman

    Why bother wondering? He offered one sort of deal to people who would keep down his labor costs when he was primarily a developer. Now he’s offering another sort of deal in the political field.

  27. @iffen

    You normally pay closer attention. if you reread my post you will clearly see that you are misrepresenting my reasoning. As a rereading would show I picked up on the previous reference to suggest that if the appalling Hitler could win a plurality in Germany it should be relatively easy for Trump who is not even remotely in the same category of appalling to win. And my point about powerful Republican supporters trying to get in first to do deals with trump had absolutely nothing to do with any rich or upper class persons supporting him now. Comprende?

    • Replies: @iffen
  28. nickels says:

    The combination of Trump’s competence + his billionaire’ness was key.

    The media and corporate engine had access sewn up. Only a self funding billionaire had a chance.

    It makes me question Tolstoy’s theory of history a bit (he though leaders were unimportant in history).

  29. KA says:

    Former CIA Head Explains Why Armed Forces Can’t Legally Obey Trump
    “If he were to order that once in government, the American armed forces would refuse to act.”
    02/27/2016 02:15 pm ET | Updated 3 hours ago

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com

    Now I believe that most at the top are really freaking out at the prospect of Trump’s presidency . Trump is also exposing the pseudo intellectual like Maher even when he is not there . .

  30. Sherman says:
    @Art

    Hi Little Art,

    I’m glad you’re such a Trump fan.

    With your social standing and education you seem like the type of guy Trump would hand out with. I’m sure he would love to have you join one of his country clubs.

    Heck, he might even introduce you to his Jewish daughter and Jewish grandkids.

    Sherm.

    • Replies: @Art
  31. @KA

    Your fixation on Dolf is very odd.

  32. geokat62 says:
    @marwan

    Speaking of KKK rallies , Rehmat , art , Svigor , goekat , annamarina et al , were any of you proud WN’S at the KKK rally today in anaheim ??

    Care to point to any of my comments that suggest I’m a WN? I am a proponent of Old World nationalism, but on a “rainbow of nations” basis, not on a basis of racial superiority… big difference, no?

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  33. Trump is this era’s and America’s Disraeli, once discredited, but swept into office when the destructive trade policies foisted on Victorian England had ruined the economy for ordinary Englishmen and their families, exactly as he’d warned.

    Hitler? Give us a break. Conservativism, Inc. at long last, has no shame.

  34. Art says:
    @Sherman

    With your social standing and education you seem like the type of guy Trump would hand out with.

    Hi Sherm,

    My estimation of Trump just went down – he wants to make peace between you guys and the Palestinians – what a fool. You’ll sure have pulled the wool over his eyes. Everybody else in the world knows that peace is the last thing your Big Jews want.

    I doubt that Trump will make it here to the home – he already has all our votes.

    Yours – Art

    p.s. You must be piss off with this cease fire in Syria. Sorry, no more fun at the Golan.

    • Replies: @Unz Reader
  35. joe webb says:
    @marwan

    Wizard of Love. Hate is just as legitimate as love. That is, in the real world of politics. You can lay down your fatwas and get laughter in return.

    Your are the arbiter of what is Acceptable. Go to hell.

    The reason Trump is thumping all the way to DC is hate.

    You can jamb your head into the sand and utter your oracles of what is acceptable but it will not do any good. Hate actually trumps love. That is the reality of everyday life, but maybe you are 12 or 13 years old . Peace and love darling.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @joe webb
  36. @geokat62

    While I thank Marwan for his interesting reply I dud think he was using a bit of a broad brush in your case in particular.

  37. joe webb says:

    “Bush epitomized a corrupt elite He was openly contemptuous of his own people. An Amnesty/Immigration Surge was his top public policy priority. But rather than being humbled by his fall, the Beltway Right seems bizarrely emboldened. They now openly acknowledge they are willing to sacrifice everything, even victory in November, as long as it means stopping Donald Trump.”

    This is very nicely put.

    All or Nothing is the adolescent fit-throwing of politics.

    What is not discussed by Mr. Kirkpatrick, I think, is race, not directly related to immigration.

    Allow me to suggest that most American Whites have ultra fatigue with regard to the Blacks, and the Mexicans. I see it in liberals around silicon valley. The Leaders of course, Zuckerman-the-Child, can forbid speech on his bulletin board ….”all lives matter” with which some cheeky fast learner replaced the “Black lives matter” cliche, so the darkies’ speech trumps white-boy/girl speech. Zuck took the high road and denounced it as racist!.

    The Zucks sooner or later will get it, but it is a long road to sober up, and end an addiction to fairy tales.

    This is liberalism and that is why it is now hated by so many white people.

    It is not just immigration, it is race. A Norman Rockwell America is not a nazi America, and the girlie boys here need to sober up.

    All peoples, like other social animals want to socialize with their own kind. That is biologically normal, and only what we used to call social engineers tyrannize the normal folks with their Moral Absolutes which have no basis in biology reality.

    The liberals , 99 out of 100 marry their own race. And whevever I see a black/white couple, it is 99% ugly white gal who just took what she could get. I don’t blame her. A warm body is a warm body.

    Racism is part of the human condition. The lefties cannot live with the human condition, any part of it. They want to Abolish it. However, like the Jewish communists of the USSR who claimed to reject their jewishness…they married jews. This is per The Jewish Century, by half jew and half russian, Slezkine, Princeton, 2004.

    Then counter-revolution has begun. Date it from 2015 or 2016 when Race becomes almost everything in Europe and the US. Euphemisms will be offered: immigration, Identity, etc.
    Joe Webb

  38. joe webb says:

    correction. I meant the ‘high’ that Zuckerberg flies on as a dope induced high, or again, he is just a kid, a child. Just what he looks like.
    Joe Webb

  39. joe webb says:

    “sacrific[ing] everything” I wonder what Mr. Kirkpatrick means by ‘everything.’

    Joe Webb

  40. Art says:
    @marwan

    Speaking of KKK rallies , Rehmat , art , Svigor , goekat , annamarina et al , were any of you proud WN’S at the KKK rally today in anaheim ??

    Oh my god — a Little Jew who has the gonads to complain about nationalism. Israel is the most nationalistic country on the planet. What – only Jew can be nationalistic?

    p.s. Hmm – “WN’s” — he also must not consider himself to be “white.”

    p.s. What — are Jew a race apart from everyone – tell us – say it out loud!

    • Replies: @marwan
  41. The most heartwarming aspect of the current presidential election cycle has been to see the millions of dollars of contributions from the nation’s elites utterly wasted on the Jeb Bush campaign.

  42. @Art

    The Hitler card has been played so often that it’s amazing it has any currency at all. Remember:

    Saddam Hussein was the new Hitler.
    Ahmadinejad was the new Hitler.
    Putin was the new Hitler.

    Now Trump is the new Hitler.

    Hitler, this, Hitler that.

    Strange that nobody ever gets labeled “The New Stalin”.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @joe webb
  43. iffen says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    No comprende.

    Mention of Hitler should frighten all those frightened of a Trump victory.

    You are saying that people who make the Hitler analogy are correct.

  44. iffen says:
    @marwan

    I am not big on conspiracy junk, but some of the idiocy has to be provocateur. Some of the garbage here is so ridiculous that the only explanation is that it is intended to make people with those political views look like complete idiots.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  45. Art says:
    @Unz Reader

    Saddam Hussein was the new Hitler.
    Ahmadinejad was the new Hitler.
    Putin was the new Hitler.

    Now Trump is the new Hitler.

    All very true – but Trump is the first American Hitler – this is a new low.

  46. “Bush didn’t fail because he was a terrible candidate”? Oh yes he did and he was a terrible candidate! He is the scion of a treacherous family of traitors who have used their dirty money to put two of their unworthy members into the top job in the country. From trading with the enemy to sleeping on the job when 9/11 occurred to organizing a still born military coup against a sitting president and arranging to keep the American hostages in Iran until some Republican stooge was elected, they have been on the wrong side of the law and of patriotism for generations. The nation does not need them and never did!

  47. joe webb says:
    @joe webb

    thinking more on hate vs. love , the US Constitution is based on a perception not of love, but of hate. Hate makes the political world go round. Checks and balances, divisions of powers, specified restrictions on power, bill of rights, and law generally, is present because of hate, not love.

    If love were the normal human condition, we could all be as children, say under the age of 5, and dance around the maypole, or as Uncle Karl put it in the Economic and philosophical manuscripts, adults could fish in the morning, write philosophy in the afternoon, and be a critic in the evening, plus socialize and get laid regularly.

    But the real world is not like that is it? Hatreds are manifest everywhere in the social and political world. To hate is human and forgiveness is rare.

    The conservative approach is to foster local conditions that minimize hateful situations. The primary rule is to refuse to mix races, and even ethnys that would prefer to be left alone. After race, comes brainpower and class. Fortunately economic inequality results in neighborhoods which reflect the assorting of folks by income, and that is just the way it is. Nothing can be done about what used to be called the Social Question. But, wait…one more Idea from the Liberals is coming via Billary.

    Privacy was recognized in Old Liberalism as the right of free association. That right has been eliminated by jews , who are granted a dispensation by themselves and their servants, and the other white liberals who would as Rousseau put it I think, “force people to be free.” Now we call it For Your own Good…liberals forcing racial integration thru laws, so that now the latest trick is to buy up homes in nice white neighborhoods with taxpayer money, and plop niggers down there as your new neighbors.

    Hatred is Guaranteed to follow, and liberal whites get to experience the joys of diversity up close and personal. This is the next step by the Crazies, led by Billary

    So, one could go on and on about this stuff, but….the Political goal is to achieve unity and not diversity. Diversity is a lie and so stupid that nobody could possible believe it, even liberals. Communists never tried it, but the new crop of Liberals without experience in any kind of real world, just TV and jewtimes editorials, etc.; they remind of GK Chesterton the Catholic writer who said that in a time of failing religious belief, the problem is not that people believe in nothing, the problem is that they will believe anything. To which I would add, “‘if it feels good,”
    ‘ as a condition. Anything that feels not warm and fuzzy, is Bad. Take drugs, fuck yourself into nirvana, and so on…feels goooood!

    Love, love, love your enemies….they will love you back, especially if they are dirt poor, and black or brown and are fueled by Envy, Greed, and Hatred of Whites. Amy Biele syndrome, etc. It feels Good to welcome even the Stranger. Try it….and die, or worse, let your kids die later.

    So liberals trash centuries of practical experience of contact with other races. The old white folks were just sooooo, out of it, ya know what I mean?

    History means nothing, The Revolution will change everything. Its all Good.

    Joe WEbb

  48. joe webb says:
    @Unz Reader

    good point, I used that myself on Holocaust Industry guy himself, Norman Finkelstein…he blinked and actually agreed. Hitlers under every liberal, jewish/neocon bed. Trump, trump, trump go the jackboots.

    The Reason for this stuff is that the trail to Stalin is Jewish in the largest part.

    Also, communism is still hip, like the statue of Lenin in Fremont District in Seattle. Have a good chuckle and think about the 100 million deaths that communism, Leninism, Jews, and Maoism did not commit.

    Joe Webb

  49. Clyde says:
    @iffen

    I am not big on conspiracy junk, but some of the idiocy has to be provocateur. Some of the garbage here is so ridiculous that the only explanation is that it is intended to make people with those political views look like complete idiots.

    I have been saying for a while that many of them are hasbarists being paid by Tel Aviv. No one can possibly be so brain damaged. And Rehamat is 100% fake Muslim, is some idiot white guy,

    • Replies: @Art
  50. Agent76 says:

    Nov 26, 2015 1 in 4 Americans Know Government is the Enemy

    • Replies: @Unz Reader
  51. Art says:
    @Clyde

    I have been saying for a while that many of them are hasbarists being paid by Tel Aviv. No one can possibly be so brain damaged.

    So Clyde,

    You are saying that these people who complain about the Jew are really a false flag special class of Jew terrorist from Tel Aviv.

    Not the garden variety of Jew terrorist that we see every day doing their best to terrorize people and shut them up with threats, intimidation, and name calling.

    Art

    p.s. They must get paid more – right!

    • Replies: @Clyde
  52. marwan says:
    @Art

    he also must not consider himself to be “white.”

    Since you are so curious , yes I am caucasian .

  53. Clyde says:
    @Art

    You put dollars in your right pocket and fresh sheckles from Tel Aviv (paymasters) in your left. This is your version of dual loyalty.

  54. @Art

    I’d be delighted to see peace between the Palestinians and the Israelis. But that won’t happen if either side doesn’t want it to happen, so I’ll be very surprised if even Trump can pull off a deal like that.

  55. @Agent76

    Only 1 in 4 Americans see government as the enemy? What’s wrong with the other 3?

  56. Sam J. says:

    “…white nationalists .
    Let me explain . These guys are pariahs . Period . They cannot express their views in real life . Furthermore they are totally unrepresented in any way . The media , academia , pop culture , everybody maligns or ignores them . If they get any press its exclusively negative…”

    That’s because the Jews own most of the press. It’s patently absurd that White people who used to be the majority in a White controlled country should be demonized for wanting to look after White people’s interest first.

    It’s going to backfire on the Jews this constant demonizing of White people. How far it will go I don’t know but every attack the Jews make upon Whites is likely to make the blow back more serious. We’re sick of you.

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