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An article written by Jonathan Chait of New York Magazine has been making the rounds of the Twitterverse since its publication Monday. Described by former CIA officer and anti-Trump 2016 presidential candidate Evan McMullin as “the best summary and assessment of publicly known facts regarding the nature of President Trump’s relationship with Moscow so far,” the article seeks to lay out in systematic fashion the allegation that Donald Trump is a compromised Russian asset, since as early as 1987.

Blasted by many as kooky and unfit for a mainstream publication, Chait is clear in explaining that he does not accept the ‘Trump as Russian Asset’ story as conclusive. The opening of the article is written as an analogy comparing the whole collusion allegation as “like walking into a dark cavern.” Chait wishes to hold up a lantern and peer deeper into the cave for what might be there. On Twitter he concedes that the whole story could “go nowhere” and Trump’s professed innocence “might well be true.” He only wants to “explore the unlikely scenario on the other side.” In a separate tweet, Chait calls the accusations that Intercept journalist Glenn Greenwald is on the financial take from Russia “totally nuts.” Taking Chait at his word, his article can be taken as unsubstantiated hypothesizing from a viewpoint of honest commentary, separate from the peanut gallery of cranks like Louise Mensch and Seth Abramson. At the same time, he pegs the odds that “the president of the United States has been covertly influenced or personally compromised by a hostile foreign power for decades” at 10 to 20%—higher than the odds many publications gave Trump of even winning the presidency.

While others may combat specific factoids and details in Chait’s unverified theory, it is equally important to address the point of view it is written from. All commentary is inherently biased, but too often in the modern age journalists attempt to write as objective beings without presuppositions. Chait’s commentary is typical of liberal, mainstream elites. It has a deep deference for established institutions (no matter their track records), an acceptance that America has a duty (or even a right) to global hegemony, and that the foreign policy of military empire used to uphold this hegemony is fundamentally good. When you are writing from the top of the world, you are going to be hostile to any view that is more earthbound.

While still writing the introduction, Chait makes two points that are worth expanding before moving on to the body of the article. In the very first paragraph, Chait mentions that in the midst of the 2016 presidential campaign “Russia was already broadcasting its strong preference for Trump through the media.” He links to a Politico Europe article that cites RT programing hosts like the recently-deceased Ed Shultz and television staple Larry King, along with online articles published at RT that were sympathetic to Trump’s campaign. This proposition that Russian media was in the bag for Trump is contradicted by the media actually in Russia, which both adheres closer to the official Kremlin line and has a much more influential following than RT’s foreign broadcasts. The positions expressed here, on Russia’s No. 1 talk show for instance, were much more skeptical of both Donald Trump’s sincerity and governing ability.

Secondly, he makes an all-too-true observation that is ignored all-too-often. “Conspiracy theories tend to attract people far from the corridors of power, and they often hypothesize vast connections within or between governments and especially intelligence agencies. One of the oddities of the Russia scandal is that many of the most exotic and sinister theories have come from people within government and especially within the intelligence field.” Whether or not someone has legitimacy as an intrepid investigator of dominant narratives or is viewed as a baseless theorizer of nonexistent conspiracies does not depend on their honesty or how many facts they can document. If a conspiracy theory originates from within the political center as a defense of the status quo, none dare call it conspiracy. Perhaps this is a legacy of the term’s underhanded creation. Chait’s unintentional acknowledgement of this double standard is helpful in identifying “Russiagate” as uniquely separate from theories generating on the fringe. Not due to any factual basis, but because of narrative difference.

The former intelligence official Chait trots out as an example is John O. Brennan, who has gone on the record saying there is something fishy about the Trump-Russia relationship that might even breach on treasonous. “While the fact that the former CIA director has espoused this theory hardly proves it, perhaps we should give more credence to the possibility that Brennan is making these extraordinary charges of treason and blackmail at the highest levels of government because he knows something we don’t.” Contrary to that impression, Brennan’s statements should make one very skeptical. Or at least that’s the logical conclusion of anyone outside the establishment groupthink previously described. If the former CIA director knows something the public doesn’t, why has no action been taken? If there is solid, irrefutable evidence that Donald Trump has been compromised by a foreign power, why is John Brennan keeping it secret? Congress should be alerted, and Vice President Pence sworn in under the Twenty-fifth Amendment. But in two years since the original start of the investigation, Brennan has presented no such evidence. In fact, using Brennan as the example shows how blind one can be when only seeing life through the establishment paradigm. As CIA director, John Brennan not only provided a rear guard defense of torture, but oversaw U.S. military aid to Syrian jihadists allied with Al-Qaeda. If Donald Trump is a traitor to his country, what does that make Brennan and his aiding and abetting of America’s sworn enemy? The actions of the Obama administration are widely sourced and admitted by public officials, but Chait pays no mind. That’s because people like Chait don’t see crimes committed in defense of the empire as real crimes.

Chait opens his chronology in the year 1987, when Donald Trump both visited Moscow on a business trip and began voicing open political sentiments. Trump’s comments focused on the United States’ relationship with its allies, saying Americans were getting a raw deal. “The safest assumption is that it’s entirely coincidental that Trump launched a national campaign, with himself as spokesman, built around themes that dovetailed closely with Soviet foreign-policy goals shortly after his Moscow stay.” Chait is nothing short of duplicitous here, admitting that the whole premise reaches nothing above coincidental while simultaneously trying to poison the waters. As Trump said, why shouldn’t countries that can afford to defend themselves do so? Why does the burden fall on the American taxpayer to defend the economically rich people of Germany and Japan? The answer, Chait says, is to defend the “liberal international order” of the postwar era. An order that requires U.S. military domination of the planet. Having other countries defend themselves would take away from U.S. preeminence, and most importantly, U.S. power. The idea of Americans protecting America only would at first glance to be the logical, even pro-American answer. But it is certainly the anti-hegemony answer, and to Chait that puts it in the category of a pro-Soviet goal.

In a single sentence, Chait tries to both summarize and dismiss the downturn in Russian-American relations that accelerated during Barack Obama’s second term. “During the Obama administration, Russia grew more estranged from the United States as its aggressive behavior toward its neighbors triggered hostile responses from NATO.” Perhaps it would be unreasonable to expect Chait to detail Russian relations with the West over the past 25 years, such as NATO expansion eastward in contradiction to previous promises, the U.S. withdraw from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty in 2002, or the 2008 Russo-Georgian War with violence initiated by the latter. But to not only ignore the February 2014 coup in Ukraine that initiated recent hostilities between the U.S. and Russia, but to also put the blame on the latter’s “aggressive behavior,” is at best laughable and at worst dishonest. In February of 2014 the democratically elected government of Ukraine was overthrown in a coup orchestrated by the United States government, an event Chait and his peers do their best to forget. Russia’s subsequent annexation of the Crimean Peninsula (containing the Russian naval base at Sevastopol) was a wholly reactive measure. To say the recent estrangement was triggered by anything else than western aggressive behavior is factually inaccurate.

A deep-dive into Paul Manafort’s past relationships fills the middle of the article, along with Chait’s biased perceptions. “This much was clear in March 2016: The person [Manafort] who managed the campaign of a pro-Russian candidate in Ukraine was now also managing the campaign of a pro-Russian candidate in the United States.” What makes Donald Trump pro-Russian? “Well I hope that we do have good relations with Russia. I say it loud and clear, I’ve been saying it for years. I think it’s a good thing if we have great relationships, or at least good relationships with Russia. That’s very important,” says the President. Donald Trump has not proposed any kind of military alliance with Russia, giving it financial aid of any kind, or granting it favored-nation status. Simply to want “good” relations with a country is enough to be pro-Russian, in Chait’s characterization. Does that make Trump pro-any country he doesn’t wish to bomb? Is Donald Trump equally pro-Peruvian, pro-Nepalese, and pro-Tanzanian as he is pro-Russian? Shouldn’t it be the proper view of the United States to try to have good working relations with all foreign powers, especially if that power has thousands of stockpiled nuclear weapons? A better description of that view would be pro-American.

It is important to emphasize and explain these seemingly small choices of language because of how much they reveal of Chait’s worldview. When one believes that patriotism and defense of empire must be synonymous, and that skepticism of international conflict implies sympathy with a foreign power, it is easy to see why someone would seek out the most nefarious answer. Chait is willing to overlook obvious, mundane explanations to imply Trump has committed wrong because to Chait, he already has by opposing the international order’s chosen script. “It is possible to construct an innocent explanation for all the lying and skulduggery [sic], but it is not the most obvious explanation. More likely, collusion between the Russians and the Trump administration has continued beyond the campaign.” Or, perhaps, politics is naturally a game for liars and the political world is specially made to house them. “Why would Manafort, who has a law degree from Georgetown and years of experience around white-collar crime, behave like this? Of all those in Trump’s camp, he is the furthest thing from a true believer, and he lacks any long-standing personal ties to the president or his family, so what incentive does he have to spend most or all of his remaining years in prison rather than betray Trump?” The most obvious answer would seem to be that there is nothing to betray; if there is no grand conspiracy of Russian collusion, Manafort has not spilled the beans for any reason more inexplicable than there is nothing to spill. Or if that’s too boring, there’s always the answer Chait is giddy to suggest. “One way to make sense of his behavior is the possibility that Manafort is keeping his mouth shut because he’s afraid of being killed.” Creativity knows no bounds.

Chait seeks comfort in those who might be even further down the establishment paradigm than he is. He describes an exchange between House Speaker Paul Ryan and House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy in the summer of 2016 where they joke about Trump and California Congressman Dana Rohrabacher being on Russian President Vladimir Putin’s payroll. While criticizing the GOP leaders’ joke as in bad taste, he describes the foreign policy positions taken by Rohrabacher. He once again uses the phrase “pro-Russian” to describe them, falling into the same verbal trap as before. Of interest, Chait mentions Rohrabacher’s denouncement of U.S. opposition to the Crimean annexation as “hypocrisy” considering America’s foreign policy. The implication is that this is some sort of hokum, but it is nothing more than showing American self-awareness. Verbal reproaches to Russia by the U.S. government are drowned out by the facts, including the overthrow of the Ukrainian government just days before Russian actions in Crimea, and the 2003 invasion of Iraq which stands to this day as the biggest crime of the 21st century. But when one is an empire, the indispensable nation, rules just don’t apply to it like they do to other, lesser countries. “He [Rohrabacher] is widely suspected of having an ulterior motive.” What Chait means is his cocktail party peers widely suspect it.

What follows is a description of Trump’s actions as President regarding Russia, which seem to belie Chait’s point of a special closeness. Trump was apparently “apoplectic” when political realities compelled him to sign new sanctions on Russia in the summer of 2017. Since those sanctions ran counter to the explicit platform Trump campaigned and won on, that would seem to be a normal reaction to any policy reversal. Trump says he thinks Russia should be allowed back into the G7. The idea that a geopolitical power player that approaches nuclear parity with the United States should be involved in such a global forum doesn’t require further explanation. During that G7 conference Trump expressed the belief that Crimea rightfully belongs to Russia because the people there speak Russian. He’s not wrong; the people of Crimea are ethnically Russian, speak the language, and culturally identify with Russia proper. The people of Crimea should have the right to vote in a fair, internationally monitored referendum on whether to be a part of Ukraine or Russia. That’s the right of self-determination, an American goal if there ever was one. Chait says Putin engineered the end of the U.S.-South Korea military exercises during the recent negotiations with North Korea. Such an insinuation, outright ignoring the months of talks that have been taking place between North and South Korea, the stated goals of the Moon Jae-in administration, and South Korean public opinion, is naïve to the highest degree. That sort of western-centric view, that the United States is always the decision maker, is further proof of the establishment imperialistic mindset Chait has written his entire article from. He concludes with the foreboding note that Trump is about to meet with Putin in a special summit next month. Somehow Trump meeting with Putin 19 months into his presidential term is scandalous, while George Bush meeting Putin 5 months into his term, and Barack Obama 6 months into his term (in Moscow no less!) garnered so such suspicious coverage.

Chait, to his credit, almost makes it through the entire article without pulling out one of the most overused, most debunked storylines of “Russiagate.” The storyline that anyone who says Russia was not behind the 2016 Democratic National Committee hack (or leak) is “…contradicting the conclusion of every U.S. intelligence agency.” That conclusion was reached not by the U.S. intelligence community but handpicked analysts from only four of seventeen agencies. “But who is bending the president’s ear to split the Western alliance and placate Russia?… His motive for these foreign-policy moves is obviously strong enough in his mind to be worth prolonging an investigation he is desperate to terminate.” It cannot be that good relations with Russia is self-evidently beneficial to the United States, or that Donald Trump is a genuine believer in that policy. Jonathan Chait is so enamored with established Washington foreign policy that no disagreement can be anything other than odious.

To reiterate, Jonathan Chait is not convinced that what he wrote is the truth. He admits that there is no conclusive evidence that Donald Trump was a Russian intelligence asset in 1987 or any other year. But what he is convinced about is the utility of the U.S. led liberal world order imposed at the point of a gun. The biases of his language towards permanent military hegemony run through his writing. This leads to the discoloring or even misrepresentation of the facts.

Hunter DeRensis is a senior at George Mason University majoring in History and minoring in Public Policy & Administration. You can follow him on Twitter [@HunterDeRensis]

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  1. “1987”

    None of you are old enough to remember the Cold War but in 1987 it was death penalty offense to be an “asset” and doubtful that the yuppie husband of a Communism-hating defector was a Soviet spy for Gorbachev back in the 1980’s.

    This is pure stupidity and demonstrates, to some degree, why white proles who believe such things are in the the situation economically and socially that they are. Or at the very least why Ali G can make a fool out of them.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @sayless
  2. Miro23 says:

    But what he is convinced about is the utility of the U.S. led liberal world order imposed at the point of a gun.

    He’s channeling Lenin/Trotsky:

    But what they were convinced about was the utility of the Bolshevik led soviet world order imposed at the point of a gun.

    Same people, same totalitarianism, same repression – the difference is that the U.S. totalitarians don’t quite yet have the absolute power they need to liquidate the “Deplorables”.

  3. Doesn’t the story of the little boy who cried wolf apply here?

    By this point, does anyone who could even potentially vote for Trump pay attention?

    • Replies: @Biff
  4. The truly absurd thing about all this is that people profess concern about Russia influencing our poloitical process. If she does, it’s in various ways so haphazard, trivial, marginal, and ineffectual as to verge on the illusory.

    Yet at the same time it’s quite out of the question to discuss how Israel controls our politics, tells Congress what bills to pass, frog-marches us into wars on her behalf, openly buys both presidential candidates, etc.

    It’s like a prostitute getting out from under her John and complaining in all seriousness about who a man is looking at her legs. It’s positively bizarre.

    If only Russian influence was all we had to worry about. Let’s get that Israeli implant out of our cerebral cortex — then think about whether that Russian fungus on our toenail really is a problem.

  5. Biff says:
    @Colin Wright

    Doesn’t the story of the little boy who cried wolf apply here?

    Yes, but point being that this seems to be the consensus among the many factions – mostly of the left, and the retarded left(those who think the Democratic Party has their back, known as RL – Retarded Left). But some on the hard right are on board too.

    As many contrary, but not mainstream, articles have pointed out – it’s faith based, like a religion. No hard evidence is ever needed, and that is why it keeps getting more cult-like the more time goes by. Soon there will be a condition named for all the nonbelievers, and medications prescribed.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  6. utu says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Being a self-hating X does not make not-X. You self hating prole.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  7. Biff says:
    @Colin Wright

    Yet at the same time it’s quite out of the question to discuss how Israel controls our politics, tells Congress what bills to pass, frog-marches us into wars on her behalf, openly buys both presidential candidates, etc.

    It would be interesting to see a poll of how many Americans really understand that? 1% maybe? I don’t know, but that’s the rub – how effective the corporate owned media has over the mass mentality of their captive audience.

  8. Yesterday evening, here in the Netherlands, I saw a former Obama adviser interviewed, who complained about the Atlantic alliance having been built up in 70 years destroyed in a few days.
    Knowing nothing about history and obvious facts seems to be the rule these days.
    Until 1917 Europe had intensive trade with Russia.
    Why not resume this trade ?

  9. sayless says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    It isn’t a white working class or underclass belief and it wasn’t invented by them and isn’t being pushed by them.

    Labor has no protection these days.

    Sasha Cohen can fool people because he has talent and lacks empathy. The cruelty is mind-boggling.

    • Replies: @WJ
  10. m___ says:

    Potatoe times.

    Meaning, since there is nothing much to write about in the heat of the Northern hemisphere, anything goes. A classic example of inducing irrelevant thought in braindeads. Trump, true or not? Well, Trump does not matter.

    Posting Trump as a decision maker is making fun of the global deplorables as being dull. He is an insider joke, as Hillary, in case someone might misfire.

    As for Brennan, corporate animals as Brennan do strictly nothing that is grounded in original thought, has any kind of career risk, requires physical courage. Corpses keeping corpses warm. Ah, what a time in history to be a journalist, an artesan of linear fairy and horror. How far away from any meaningfulness. The middle classes, digging their own demise.

    This summer will see more then usual “snatch a bone” and have the pack run with it. Amen.

    • Replies: @anon
  11. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    Trump visits unsteady, dilapidated Moscow in 1987. He notices that the USSR is not the all-powerful mega-threat it may have been in the 70s.

    Trump also visits various glistening European capitals and notices the much higher level of development.

    He then reads that America is paying for the defence of Europe against the USSR. He notices that this doesn’t make sense. Europe has more than enough capacity to defend itself. America might better spend that money elsewhere.

    Two decades later New York Times writer insinuates that Trump could be a sleeper Soviet agent for coming to this conclusion. Even though Trump was proven right by events.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Forbes
    , @AndrewR
  12. vinteuil says:

    Excellent article. Glad to see there’s *somebody* at George Mason University with some common sense.

  13. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    The idea that America has anything is so wrong, Americans have absolutely no
    choice in what is being done. 100% of this BS is the USA. Believe me they
    are two completely different groups: one consist of 340,000,000 governed people willing to get along with the people of the rest of the world and the other consist of 527 salaried middle men slave driver puppets of Zionist expressing Kol Nedrei behaviors.

    I summarize the objections made in the Jonathan Chait ( New York Magazine Article) by HD.
    1. America has a duty (or even a right) to global hegemony (once again USA not America or Americans)
    2. the odds that “the POTUS h\b covertly influenced or personally compromised
    (by a hostile foreign power for decades”<=probable at 10 to 20% likelihood)
    HD assigns as typical of liberal, mainstream elite produced writings; the following attributes to JC.

    1. a deep deference for established institutions (no matter their track records),
    2. an acceptance that America[s/b usa] has a duty (or even a right) to global hegemony, and
    3. an acceptance that America[s/b usa] has a foreign policy of military empire duty to uphold hegemony
    4. an assertion that hegemony is fundamentally good for the USA (not necessarily for America).
    5. a hostility to world views that have not been approved by those in power.

    HD criticisms of the evidence JCs used to support his article's theme
    Predetermined outcomes in Russian media does not compute with actual outcome
    Conspiracy theories attract the wrong types of folks, unless they are unhanded creations.. not evidence
    Creditable party endorsement (of Trump_Russian treasonous relationship ) not evidence
    Political campaign management is the same for pro-Russian candidate as for Trump proves nothing.
    Bad taste jokes used as endorsement not evidence.
    Negotiations with foreign powers before the election prove a relationship you might look at these following articles
    June 20, 2018 Trump's False Arguments Will Not Sell Well In Europe
    July 04, 2018 British Government Peddles Warmed Over Novichok Muck
    June 29, 2018 British Parliament Confirms 'Conspiracy Theory' – Torture and Renditions Continue
    June 20, 2018 Pity The Russophobe Journos Whom No One Believe

    Clearly the Russophile propaganda is a globally controlled attempt to turn the west against Russia. much like the high school rumor starts a fight: Joe tells Queeny, girl friend of Mack that Randy said Mack was a low down two time chicken-s**t looser. Then Sally tells Queeny she has heard just how much of a Chicken-S**T her boy friend Mack is, where up Queeny tells Mack, and Mack tells Queeny to tell Randy that he is a Chicke-S**t liar and that Mack will meet Randy out back after school to prove it.

    I think the conspiracy theory that makes a lot of sense to investigate is not national leader to national leader
    conspiracy, intrigue or corruption, but instead to investigate the ever increasing evidence which suggest all of the national leaders of the entire world answer to the same group of high rolling powerful persons. Its all one big happy family, the nations are just cells in the matrix of cells that divides the peoples of the nations for divide and conquer purposes. The more divided the people the less energy it takes "for the central (never exposed to public view) powers to get their way.

  14. Here is an interesting historical look at how the United States responded when it believed that Russia/the USSR was using propaganda against Washington:

    Apparently, it’s okay for Washington to lie about Russia but not the other way around.

  15. TheOldOne says:

    This is really stupid; maybe Ron Unz thinks he needs to publish things like this to get the approval of ((those people)). Only reason I can come up with.

    • Replies: @Idiotland
  16. But to not only ignore the February 2014 coup in Ukraine that initiated recent hostilities between the U.S. and Russia, but to also put the blame on the latter’s “aggressive behavior,” is at best laughable and at worst dishonest.

    You lost me at that point. There was no coup in 2014. That’s simply a Putinist lie. Yanukovich ran when he was going to be brought to book for the murders he ordered on the Maidan. He was interviewed last year and was completely evasive when it came to questions about the killings he ordered. He’s now a fugitive from justice and was righteously removed from office when he ran for asylum in Russia.

    It’s long past time for idiots like yourself to get the facts and quit parroting Putin’s lies.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Troll: Biff
  17. This a Zionist hatched plot carried out by the ziocons in the U.S. gov to hamstring Trump on Russian foreign policy as the Bolsheviks ie ziocons in the U.S. gov and the ziocon controlled MSM do not want the U.S. to have peace with Russia and thus the howling from the ziocon wolves in the gov.

    To those who say the Zionists do not control the gov, Israel and the ziocons killed some 3000 americans on 911 and every thinking American knows it and yet Israel and the ziocons got away with it, that is control in spades.

  18. DD says:

    Why is it that Derensis and so many others simply refuse to even consider whether (unlike Chait), the signals intelligence arms of US allies did indeed stumble upon communications between the Trump campaign and Russia (as far back as 2015) and became concerned enough to alert their US counterparts?

    Of all the aspects to this matter, it appears to me to be by far the most important – yet it receives nary a mention. Either the story from, for example, The Guardian (April 2017) about GCHQ and its chief (Hannigan) personally passing these intercepts on to US intelligence is true or it is not.

    If true, it probably explains a great deal about why the FBI finally opened a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russia. Of course, if true, it also explains the need for the Oval Office to send Ezra Cohen-Watnick to sniffing around the NSC archives and then make a be big kerfuffle about “unmasked” intercepts – via his like-minded hack Eli Clifton over at Bloomberg.

    It’s really the only thing I’m waiting on in the Mueller report – that and clarity about whether the head of the secret intelligence service of a Mideast country personally visited and briefed team Trump at Trump Tower in late 2016 – just before it intervened in a U.N. vote in December 2016.

    • Replies: @anon
  19. You’re a better man than I am, Mr Derensis, to actually wade though all this tinfoil hat crap and calmly take it down absurd point by stretched connection.

  20. peterike says:

    I really didn’t read very far in this. But let’s stop and end with Chait’s comment:

    “Russia was already broadcasting its strong preference for Trump through the media.”

    Well hmmm. Considering that Hillary was all but declaring war on Russia and an even-bet to get us into a shooting war with them, and considering that nearly all the other Republicans were members of NeoCon incorporated, and considering that Jewish media hysteria about Russia was ramping up by the day, and considering that Trump was the ONLY candidate poking holes in the NeoCon narrative, then Russia would have been pretty stupid NOT to prefer Trump.

    Yeah, I might prefer the candidate who was far and away the least likely to drop nuclear bombs on my nation too.

    • Replies: @utu
  21. Eighthman says:

    It’s simply amazing how such extreme story telling is allowed to avoid the fact that the US is wasting its resources on pointless conflicts thruout the world while the nation decays.

    Also surprising? The fact that supposedly sane political and military leaders can continue to demand ever more conventional military spending based on a fantasy that war with China/Russia wouldn’t go nuclear.

    Where are the liberals with any principles? Or is that a contradiction in terms? Why not support Trump against the warmongers and fix the country instead?

  22. WJ says:

    This person knew how to deal with Cohen. It should be a routine response to this buffoonsish punk.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  23. Julia says:

    The linchpin of the TrumpRussianSpy!!1! notion is identifying the Russian mafiya with the Russian government. Every crooked Russian gets the epithet Putin-linked, close to Putin, or some variant.

    In its purest form you see Amy Knight writing in CIA house organ Daily Beast, “The real question is where does the Russian criminal state end and the criminal underworld begin, and how do they work together in what amounts to a new murder incorporated?” This is classic projection by CIA. It’s CIA that recruits every kind of organized crime as agents and cutouts. They project this trait onto the entire Russian state.

    In fact, the crooked Russians Trump knows are small fry among the CIA agents that looted Russia under CIA’s puppet ruler Yeltsin. Felix Sater bragged about it, till they shut him up. Trump aided Russian capital flight by helping Russian crooks and traitors launder their money in real estate (because you don’t get to be president without running lots of errands for CIA.) It is a truism that the best oppo is slightly distorted tales of the candidate’s dirty work for CIA. That way party dupes foam at the mouth demonizing their enemy figurehead and forget about CIA, who runs them all.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @ohmy
  24. Alfa158 says:

    He was also evasive on the question of whether he was still beating his wife, and refused to give a simple yes or no answer to the question.

    • Replies: @Felix Culpa
  25. The most likely scenario is not that Trump is in Putin’s pocket or Putin in Trump’s but that both are in the pocket of the same international cabal of Russian and American gangsters.

    • LOL: edNels
  26. i agree it sure is tiring being accused of engaging in same relational conduct when you are a die hard lady’s man. and to be clear, it is strange that for all of the gnashing of teeth by liberals and some conservatives alike, about the cruelty bestowed on such people — they have no qualms pulling the labels out to smear their opponents as so engaged.

    and there’s really no defense save.

    “no i’m not, watch how many women i can bed.”

    and this for men who acknowledge abstinence/celibacy as an required practice of faith is no solution. left with acknowledging all the women that turn your head feels rather a feeble response in light of the suggestion.

  27. @Alfa158

    Textbook application of “Answer a fool in terms of his folly, lest he think himself to be wise.” ( Proverbs 26:5)

  28. utu says:

    Considering that Hillary was all but declaring war on Russia

    Why people keep repeating it? When this meme was created, by whom and why is it believed?

    • Replies: @Eighthman
    , @lysias
  29. nickels says:

    A demoralized people (like the US) will believe anything.

    It is pretty sickening to live through such a time, however.

  30. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:

    “As CIA director, John Brennan not only provided a real-guard defense of torture, but oversaw U.S. military aid to Syrian jihadists allied with Al-Qaeda. If Donald Trump is a traitor to his country, what does that make Brennan and his aiding and abetting of America’s sworn enemy? ”

    Alinsky/Clinton rule: Always accuse your opponent of what YOU are doing.

    Variant of: The Jew cries when HE hits YOU.

  31. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    Why does no one believe the signals intelligence arms of USA allies, even if they say they stumbled upon communications between the Trump campaign and Russia (as far back as 2015) and became concerned enough to alert their US counterparts?

    I respond to your question with an observation.. the intelligence arms of most of the nations are interlocked globally. The so called Intelligence groups have done so many regime changes, false flag operations, tv fake interviews, and contributed to so much false and misleading and war attitude generating propaganda, that no one believes …. If an intelligence group were to say it was raining outside, those outsiders interested to know, would have to go look for themselves.

    As long as leaders of nations, elected, military, contractor, or bureaucrat operate in secret, make people who work for them sign NDAs, criminalize truth speaking whistle blowers, operate as super top secret projects, redirect public socially needed money to fund war machines, use technology and access to spy on people, or threaten the lives or well being of human beings who happened to live in a nation that is unfriendly, for no apparent or valid public stated reason, no reasonable person will ever believe the signal intelligence arms of USA or its allies.. Colin Powell comes to mind! Secrecy, intentional falsity, 24/7 surveillance, controlled, limited and gated access to knowledge or information, and silence maintained when the facts should have been make known, has produced a “public enemy at large” response.

    if these agencies presented a hungry angry wolf in plain view, most people would wonder “what is it” in disguise. One of the first rules in taking over a nation, is to prevent those who lead from being heard. So not having reliable information constitutes a very dangerous situation, but it is one that cannot be easily remedied until 9/11, Holocaust, and all kinds of global events are completely and fully disclosed, and those responsible held accountable.

    • Replies: @DD
    , @annamaria
  32. Eighthman says:

    It was a speech given to veterans before the election in which she nearly promised military confrontation with Russia in response to supposed cyber attacks. Shown on YouTube, ignored by MSM.

    • Replies: @utu
  33. DD says:

    You doth protest too much and avoid the obvious completely.

    Did Western signals intelligence intercept team Trump communicating with the Russians? Either they did or they didn’t. If so, what on earth were they “communicating” about – what in Heaven’s name would a US political campaign be discussing with a fellow nuclear superpower who had historically been an adversary – most especially so early on in the campaign (i.e. 2015)?????

    I’m sick of excuses – I want some simple answers and then to go from there. If Mueller can provide them., then good for him – because the comments in the comment sections are mostly hot air.

    • Agree: renfro
    • Replies: @renfro
  34. @Colin Wright

    “Yet at the same time it’s quite out of the question to discuss how Israel controls our politics … ”

    Yep. It is also third rail to discuss how Israel and Saudi Arabia often work in tandem to influence U.S. foreign policy. Saudi Arabia has the mountain of cash; Israel has the Mossad. Jeffrey Epstein is an example of this influence operation at work. As for John Brennan, the walking conspiracy machine, he is the godfather of the U.S. intelligence (civilian) war against outsider Trump.

  35. vinteuil says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Couldn’t have put it better myself.

  36. Forbes says:

    All media is entertainment–this column no less than Chait’s article. Neither is worth more than a skim, as they both consist of speculation–not facts or evidence–of what is proposed as a conclusion.

    Such a critique should taken one-tenth the number of words.

  37. Forbes says:
    @Tyrion 2

    By the lights of the Left you’re wrong, no matter the substance or basis of your conclusion, simply by having arrived at a different conclusion than the Left. And no matter the wrongness of the Left–you must agree with them–must hold the agreed upon opinions.

    If you disagreed with them in 1987, you were not reading the facts correctly–even if proven correct by the passage of time and events.

    And Trump can’t possibly be right today–even if proven correct by the passage of time and events–because he read the facts wrong in 1987. So says the Left.

    Heads I win; tails you lose.

  38. renfro says:

    Did Western signals intelligence intercept team Trump communicating with the Russians? Either they did or they didn’t.

    NSA collects e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g….. they have it all. All other intelligence agencies in the US get their intel communications records from the NSA .
    So why did the NSA take it upon itself to delete years of foreign intelligence records?
    As far as I can find this was not requested by the WH.

    NSA Deletes Years of Foreign Intelligent Intercepts

    It boggles my mind that the press is ignoring this and no one in intel and political circles is raising hell over it.
    So…who doesn’t want who to see records of calls re foreign intelligence.

    • Replies: @DD
  39. hyperbola says:

    Why I Quit the Democratic Party Yesterday

    I left the Democratic Party yesterday, because I cannot support the first American President who ever installed anywhere in the world a nazi regime — it has never happened before, not even under a Republican President; and, until Obama, I had always assumed that if it ever would happen, it could come only under a Republican President, never under any Democratic one. But I was wrong — mortifyingly wrong — because Barack Obama did this in Ukraine (see here and here for the evidence); he is the first-ever U.S. President to install a nazi regime anywhere, and so I wrote to my Representative seeking Obama’s impeachment by the Democrats in Congress; and, yesterday, that person, a Democratic member of the U.S. House of Representatives, told me that, notwithstanding Barack Obama’s having unquestionably done this, this Democratic Representative will not introduce on the floor of the U.S. House (which is the only place where a bill of impeachment can be introduced) a bill of impeachment against this — what is the appropriate term for such a person, if not a — nazi U.S. President. (That’s nazi as an ideology, racist fascist, not as a party designation, which is merely a party’s name.) Simply because Obama calls himself a ‘Democrat,’ that Representative in the House will not introduce a bill to impeach him. There was no argument on the facts; the facts weren’t at issue here at all; it’s just that Obama calls himself a ‘Democrat.’ That’s all…..

    Ukraine’s Pres. Poroshenko Says Overthrow of Yanukovych Was a Coup

    Participants in 2014 Ukrainian coup confess
    ….. The Italian newspaper Il Giornale, and Italian Mediaset Matrix TV, Chanel 5, issued, on November 15th, confessions by a few of the snipers who on 20 February 2014 fired down into the crowd of “Maidan” demonstrators and police, in order “to sow chaos,” as they say that they had been instructed to do.

    The Georgian mercenary Alexander Revazishvilli said: “Everyone started shooting two or three shots at a time. It went on for fifteen, twenty minutes. We had no choice. We were ordered to shoot both on the police and the demonstrators, without any difference.” This account is entirely consistent with the leaked phone-conversation on 26 February 2014 in which Urmas Paet, the investigator whom the EU had assigned to determine whom to blame for the snipers and their massive bloodshed during the overthrow, informed the EU’s Foreign Affairs chief, Catherine Ashton, that the anti-Yanukovych, pro-U.S. and pro-EU side, were to blame, and that Paet had just been informed of this by Petro Poroshenko (who shortly thereafter became elected as Ukraine’s figurehead President). Paet said:…..

    Oliver Stone Exposes US Coup d’etat In Ukraine

    How and Why the US Government Perpetrated the 2014 Coup in Ukraine

  40. DD says:

    No, what was requested by the Trump Oval Office was requested by Ezra Cohen-Watnick – who then passed these on to Nunes and Bloomberg’s Eli Lake (“unbiased” chronicler of the Mideast – just like Cohen-Watnick and his patrons Frank Gaffney and General Flynn).

    I guess team Trump must have been searching for something – yes?

  41. @WJ

    I’m surprised it did not happen to Cohen more often.

  42. Manafort has not spilled the beans… nothing to spill.

    Manafort owed people lots and lots of cash and worked for Trump for no salary. But that didn’t mean he was working for nothing. We all look forward to Manafort’s trial(s). As we do to Trump Jr. and Kushner testifying under oath.

  43. @utu

    Well, there might be some truth there. I am middle-class, but it is easy in a place like Detroit for the middle-class to slip into the working classes. Unemployment, an unexpected child out-of-wedlock, drugs, just hanging around a neighborhood when the economy is gone.

    At any rate, I miss the 80’s to some degree. There was no argument about borders for fear that Russians might slip over them or Latin auxiliaries. See Invasion USA.

    Nobody thought open borders were a good thing.

    Hispanics were still a small Southwestern phenomenon back then.

  44. Russia gate is pure bullshit. There is no truth in it. There is no ten percent chance that it has any substance whatsoever. Putin is not an enemy of the United States. He is an obstacle to the expansion of the Anglo/Zio Empire. Which Empire itself is the greatest threat to the United States. Trump is correct in his characterization of Russia as a “competitor”. Not so long ago there were Capitalists who acknowledged the value of competition. What is called Capitalism today views monopolies as success stories. The proper term is Feudalism. Small wounder that American proles (serfs) are reacting by calling for Communism.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  45. A class of Jews who prefer western hegemony over the world against the other group of the Tribe that prefer it a little less so. Oy vey! What are we to do?

  46. @Jeff Stryker

    obviously you missed the amnesty programs by governors of ca and president reagan.

    if you in a border state — borders have been an issue consistently

  47. @Jeff Stryker

    if you live in a border state — borders have been an issue consistently

  48. whether there is something to betray is not central in such prosecutions, maybe none of them. if ypou can intimidate someone enough they can certainly find reasons to betray — they may even make up reasons.

    it’s being shown the instruments of torture

  49. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    you can add Netanyohu to that .. cabal if you like, only the undertaker will know..

  50. annamaria says:

    the US “Left”
    Who needs Assange and Snowden when we have Clinton, Wassermann, Awans, Strzok, Rosenstein, and the entire FBI gleefully involved in divulging the classified information. And the beauty is, they have been divulging the classified information while being paid by the US taxpayers.
    From the Comment section of
    “That there was an ‘autosend’ of copies of every email but 4, 30,000 plus emails, that crossed Hillary’s server that were automatically sent to a ‘foreign agent’? That Strzok was directly briefed about, and never followed up? Strzok who doesn’t remember that reason for the brief? That DOJ IG Horowitz was left 4 phone messages that the IC IG wanted to brief him on this very data, and Horowitz never returned the call?”
    — Why Mueller, Comey, Cabe, Brennan et al have not been persecuted for treason already? Where is the Grand Jury in Virginia to protect the national interests?
    The Dems are squealing about alleged “Russian hacking,” whereas the greatest breach of the US cybersecurity has been accomplished by the Dems staffer, Imran Awan, who had been paid a lot of money and protected by Wasserman. Instead of persecuting the criminals, the FBI has been protecting Awans and Wasserman:

  51. Them Guys says:

    If Trump really means and desires to do as elected and he promised to do, about a true usa-fix-job as us prez?….He will then take a few weeks off and away from all of his massive Israel and Bibi Ass Kissing, his childish twitter posts, and assemble a small LOYAL Trustworthy, Private group of the Proper agency officials under trumps direct command. And figure out which of the too many fed govnt employed folks from whatever agency they are in, that are a detriment and disaster and are traitors of and to America in general…..And FIRE all he has a right to do and a DUTY to do, and Demand, AG Jeff Sessions who is also under direct command by us prez trump, to fully Prosecute every last one of these nefarious nation wreckers.

    Especially (((Deb Wasserman))) and Her Dept of Justice, 2nd from top at doj is he?, (((brother))), who should Never have been put in charge of prosecuting or looking into affairs of crimes committed by AWAN while Hired by his sister Debbie Wasserman and Paid by her via DNC Payroll etc. etc.

    This is a NO brainer job for mr.prez trump it seems eh?

    NEXT UP! Fire and Get Rid of from whitehouse trumps jewey lib lefty daughter and son in law the two” Main advisors”-Chabad Lubavitcher Synagogue of Satan members.

    And just in general wake the fuck up and act as us prez who really meant what he stated on a usa fix job eh.

    Otherwise I predict a new world record LOW repub voter turnouts, not only at mid terms, but forever after this point once voters realize it was the last chance for a fix usa job and they got royally shafted…Again!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  52. annamaria says:

    “Chait was born to a Jewish family…”
    “There is, of course, a good reason why Zionist (i.e. Israeli) history is NOT taught in our universities in the United States. It is simply because if Zionist history were taught in our schools, then Americans would quickly realize that the real terrorists are the Zionists. Terrorism has been the tool of the Zionists all along, and continues to be so to this day.”

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  53. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:

    Consider Theodor Herzl’s guidance before reading anything written by a Jew:

    At the same time we continue to produce an abundance of mediocre intellects who find no outlet, and this endangers our social position as much as does our increasing wealth. Educated Jews without means are now rapidly becoming Socialists. Hence we are certain to suffer very severely in the struggle between classes, because we stand in the most exposed position in the camps of both Socialists and capitalists. –Der Judenstaat

    • Replies: @Them Guys
    , @m___
  54. anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @Them Guys

    Beginni.g to understsmd the pragmatism of Night of Long Knives.

  55. KDM says:
    @Colin Wright

    Here’s some interesting weekend reading if you have some time to spare. There are NUMEROUS connections of the Trump-Russia-Israel alliance here. Even Flynn is said to have contacted Russia on behalf of Israel via Jared Kushner. There are so many Israel dual citizen Russian Jews connected with all the Trump people it’s not even hidden. You can find the most honest assessment of these connections on Jewish news websites themselves. (You may or may not already know these connections)

    I cannot fathom why anyone is the freaking MSM, aside from Ronan Farrow @ the New Yorker, has not been shouting this most obvious link from the rooftops! I mean, ok, I do understand why but it’s soooo disingenuous and so embarissingly obvious!

  56. KDM says:
    @Echoes of History

    Ooooookay??? Yes, Jonathan Chait is clearly Jewish and this is relavent, why???

    In case you have been living in a freaking cave Trump and Netanyahu are BFFs! Trumps son-in-law is Jewish, his grandkids are Jewish, his daughter converted! Sheldon Adelson has donated a gazillion dollars to the Trump campaign. Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Israel has more Trump loving deplorables than Trump country does right here in the USA!

    So, your insinuation with JC not liking Trump, because JC is Jewish does not hold water.
    I think JC’s center-left neo-liberalism explains his TDS a lot better.

  57. lysias says:

    With my own ears, I heard Hillary call for a no-fly zone in Syria. That was in the last debate, a pretty high-profile event. In that same debate, she also lovingly described a president’ s power over the nuclear arsenal.

    That all meant war with Russia.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
  58. annamaria says:

    Jonathan Chait has been explicitly exposing Trump connections with ethnic Russians. Jonathan Chait was very careful never ever touch on any Trump connections with “Russain” Jews (and how many of them in Israel – in the hundreds of thousands? – “In 2013, nearly 40% of all olim immigrated to Israel from the former Soviet Union.”)
    As for the heavy anti-US influence of Israelis and Israel-firsters, Jonathan Chait has been deaf and blind towards it. He certainly reminds of Herzl’s words re the Jews, “we continue to produce an abundance of mediocre intellects.”

    • Replies: @KDM
  59. KDM says:

    Agreed. It makes one wonder if this is a real blindspot caused by rabid partisanship and not wanting to identify your ethnic tribe with anything Trumpian or if he’s straight up espousing disinformation on purpose.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  60. annamaria says:

    Yes, and Rosenstein is hailing the indictment of Russian hackers who allegedly “endangered” the already feeble (or not?) democracy in the US:
    “And while the language and descriptions of “hacking” are sufficiently vague, the indictment lays out a “spearphishing” campaign of obtaining user credentials by tricking people into giving them up, followed by more commonly understood “hacking” techniques involving the infiltration of networks and the use of malware.” — DOJ pretense on being a group of innocent infants.
    Nothing about the DNC’ rigging of the Dems primaries.
    Nothing about Clinton’s criminal negligence with regard to classified information and the private insecure server used by Clinton in violation of all rules
    Nothing about Awan-Wassermann Affair that has resulted in the gravest breach of US cybersecurity
    Nothing about the strange death of Seth Rich

    The Mueller-Rosenstein-Brennan team in action: We can be sure that the US constitution will be violated again and again and again.

  61. Them Guys says:

    Ever notice there has been zero history taught at any school levels from K-12 and later in any Univ’s. about the Khazar regional lands and khazar peoples history? Even though internet websites are filled with factual khazar evidence, and even several good Map’s outlining and showing every detail of what once consisted of the total lands then occupied mainly by Khazar peoples. I guess they fear too many folks would be able to add 2+2 and come up with it = Fake Imposter jewry eh. Plus folks would also learn about the mass khazar conversion to Pharisee rabbinical Talmudic Judaism Religion that took place around 745 a.d. and then khazars around 900 a.d. infiltrated most of Europe, especially western Europe and began to call themselves as, Jews.

    Such info would devastate and demolish current jewdeo hoax propagandas along with overall general jewry fabels and swindles. Not to mention all claims to any so called right to return to Palestine.

    I oft wonder what else of factual history has been withheld and denied to us and by design eh?

  62. Them Guys says:

    Herzl and his Ilk need not worry, for when the bell tolls for the Tare’s uprooting at Harvest time..Those Tare’s shall be standing Alone and all as One main group. As Per: Christ’s Parable of “The Wheat Vs Tare’s”.

  63. annamaria says:

    There is nothing on the web about Chait’s parents. Perhaps, they are immigrants from the former Soviet Union. This could explain Chait’s visceral hatred for everything Russian (even if the “Russian” Jews in Israel feel superior to other, “uneducated,” Jews).
    Dm. Alperovitch (the fraudster of CrowdStrike fame) and David Remnick (a stain on the New Yorker) make good samples of Jewish profiteers on Russophobia.

  64. lysias says:

    Strzok is a Polish name, isn”t it? I would guess the hatred he has expressed for the Russian people is typical Polish Russophobia.

  65. KDM says:

    Or it could be the old adage, “Jews arguing with Jews”.

  66. Idiotland says:

    Meanwhile Israel just accomplished yet another shakedown of increasingly broke US taxpayers while corrupt war criminal Nuttyahoo(tRump’s REAL master) struts around like he’s the king of the universe and Russophobic trolls like Michael Kenny couldn’t care less. Who’s actually being disloyal here?

  67. Idiotland says:

    Meanwhile Israel robs and rapes us right out in broad daylight but to paraphrase Bob Knight, I guess we should just sit back and enjoy it as anything else would be “antisemitic.” Talk about really stupid.

  68. ohmy says:

    This Putin’s Russia bullshit needs to stop and soon. Chait? Which tribe is he from? Not that it matters. His writing style is right out of Creative Writing 101. If Trump has been compromised, and I’m not saying he hasn’t been, but if so it wasby, who: Jeffrey Epstein, what victim: very young girls, the weapon: a camera, where: on a private Island, motive: blackmail. Read like the game “Clue”. This probably happened to Bill Clinton too.
    Trump is owned by Russians, but it’s by the Russian Jewish Oligarchs known as the Russian Mafia not Putin. It began when Trump went upside down in Atlantic City and, was filing bankruptcy … for the nth time. The Russian mob rode to his rescue with hundreds of millions of freshly looted cash from the USSR. You can find video of Donald Jr. bragging about how much cash was pouring into the then failing Trump Enterprise from Russia. Circa late 80’s, early 90’s. Together they went into business and formed Bayrock Group or Corp. With Trump’s brand name and their cash they built Trump Soho and a few other projects. These guys are serious predatory gangsters. For a long time they ran high stake book making and, high stake card games out of Trump Towers Manhattan. Some even lived there. Guys like this don’t pay rent either. This is who the FBI was bugging, not Donald. This is the relationship Mueller should be investigating. To learn more about this check the archives at VeteransToday. There’s other reports out there, but not as comprehensive.

  69. ohmy says:

    Julia, your 100% correct. I just finished explaining the same thing below, why this journalist is off base. Either he is paid to be or he’s plain ignorant. For anyone interested in reading all about it they can check the archives at VT.

  70. @Quartermaster

    Absolutely right, except for every detail. When even the BBC publishes evidence that pro-Western snipers shot their own people in order blame it on Yanukovich, even dumba***s like you might have the intellectual capacity to finally reach the conclusion that the game’s up for your sh***y little lies.

  71. m___ says:

    As more of your comments, to the point. There must be some logic to quality of argument rather then opinion, that makes expressing thought very much exclusive to the point that not producing meaning is an act of sensible, articulate and intelligent behaviour, at the least two of us sin.

  72. annamaria says:

    News from the Kaganat of Nuland (former Ukraine):
    “Rights groups petition Israel to end arms sale to neo-Nazi group:”
    “Ukraine’s new heroes: Anti-Semites and murderers of Jews:”,7340,L-5076191,00.html
    “‘Ukraine’s disintegrating economy’:”
    The Polish deputy PM in an interview to Reuters: “These signals which are coming from Ukraine are very disturbing because the economy there is beginning to disintegrate, economic ties are beginning to disintegrate.” According to the deputy PM, Poland risks facing a huge influx of migrants from crisis-stricken Ukraine.”

  73. annamaria says:

    Where has Brennan been? Getting his cut on the Russian bribes to Clintons? — There were $145 million for Uranium One plus $400 million from Browder.
    Meanwhile, “China hacked Clinton’s e-mail:”
    “Looks like a hacking operation by China. They nailed Clinton’s completely unprotected system and then inserted code that gave them all her traffic over e-mail subsequent to that. That included all her State Department classified traffic which she had her staff illegally scan and insert in her private e-mail. We are talking about 30,000+ messages. Strzok was told that by the Intelligence Community Inspector General WHILE he was running the Clinton e-mail investigation and chose to ignore it.”
    – Debbie Wasserman -Schultz not only invited a family of Pakistani fraudsters to tend congressional computers (none of the Awana had a clearance), she threatened with retaliation a DC marshall when the fraudsters fell under investigation. Why is Debbie not in a high-security prison already?
    — While the CIA and FBI have been politicking, the Chinese and Pakistani nationals had been collecting the classified information. Talk about Manning and Assange!
    It is interesting if Mrs. Clinton still believes that divulging the classified information pertaining to the US nationals security should be punished by drone. She certainly deserved a severe punishment.
    — CrowdSrike was supposed to guard the DNC server. Why has the FBI allowed to look at the DNC computers? Why Alperovitch, a Russophobic fraudster, has not been apprehended already for a lie about the improbable Russian hacking?

  74. AndrewR says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Not to nitpick but how do you think that 1987 was 2 decades ago? I realize math isn’t everyone’s forte but wow

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  75. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    I assume it was a typo and I meant to input 3 decades. That’s the problem with rapidly getting your thoughts down using a tiny phone keyboard.

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