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A Lesson from Asia

Asians show no sign of a collective death-wish. They are generally proud of their ethnicity and nationality. This, I will argue, has much to do with their general attitude toward their ancestors. Ancestor worship is an essential part of Asian traditions, and although it has receded in big cities, it is still widely practiced. Anthropologists prefer to speak of “ancestor veneration”; the dead are not deified, but shown respect and gratitude, and expected to guide and protect the living—or to rebuke them when they do bad. Honoring the ancestors is considered not just a religious custom, but a moral duty, because it is an extension of filial piety, which is viewed unanimously in the Orient as the foundation of morality: your filial piety means you inherit your parents’ filial piety, etc.

In China, despite decades of communist indoctrination, ancestor veneration is still very common. It finds support in Confucianism, which emphasizes filial piety and respect for ancestors (although Confucius had little to say about the existence of spirits). People participate in ritual offerings to the dead regardless of their other religious affiliation. Catholics remain reluctant, despite the fact that in 1939, the Church retracted its official ban pronounced in 1707, pretending that ancestor veneration was not religious after all and therefore tolerated.

Ancestor veneration is “one of the elements that make up the cultural identity of Vietnam.” No matter if they identify as Buddhists, Christians, or anything else, almost every Vietnamese family, rich or poor, has an ancestor altar in the house. Everywhere in the Orient, but in Vietnam more than anywhere else, love of ancestors and love of nation are organically linked, because ancestors are those who built the nation and protected its territorial integrity throughout the centuries.

“Ritual services for ancestors have a long and rich history in Korea, and they are still an important part of traditional village life.” These rituals, sometimes referred to as Jesa, are practiced throughout the year, for ancestors up to the fifth generation. Some Catholics join in ancestral rites, but Evangelical Protestants do not. Many Koreans occasionally get involve in shamanism, which mostly deals with conflicts between the living and the dead (good ones and bad ones). Even in North Korea, according to recent estimates, 16 percent of the total population believes in shamanism.

In Japan, despite the post-WWII criminalization of national traditions, most people maintain a degree of veneration towards their dead, even if they claim to have no religion. Nobushige Hozumi, who wrote for Westerners a book titled Ancestor-Worship and Japanese Law in 1901, dispels the Western prejudice that ancestors are worshipped out of fear. Love, not fear, is the anthropological foundation of ancestor worship. It is simply a continuation of family bonds.

Up until the end of the 19th century, there were three levels of ancestor worship in Japan, Hozumi explains: family, clan and nation. Each family honors their own ancestors, those who are remembered directly or indirectly, over three, four generations or sometimes more. The dead are honored individually on the birthdays of their death, but also collectively on certain festival dates, which are occasions for family reunions. Buddhist monks or Shinto priests may intervene in some rites, depending on the family.

Traditionally, “Each clan has a clan-god or ‘Uji-gami’ who is the eponym of that particular community.” Because each clan occupied a certain territory, clan ancestors tended to merge with tutelary deities. The main shrine of the clan was also the shrine of the patron deity of the land. The worship of clan ancestors was the most important until the 19th century, because the original unit of Japanese society was not the family but the clan, each clan being legally represented by its chief. “The worship of common ancestors, and the ceremonies connected therewith, maintained the semblance of a common descent amongst large numbers of widely scattered kinsmen who were so far removed from one another that they would, without this link, have fallen away from family intercourse.”

At the national level there was the cult of the imperial lineage. It was not a cult of the emperor, but rather the participation of the nation in the emperor’s own ancestor cult, on the mythic assumption that the imperial ancestors are the ancestors of the whole nation. This national cult was also associated to a form of monotheism, since Amaterasu O-Mikami, “the Great Goddess of the Supreme Light” was considered the primordial ancestor, the mother of the first emperor. She is represented by the sun that once radiated on the Japanese flag.

Vietnam
Vietnam

I have no special expertise in Asian anthropology, but I think there is no debate over the fact that ancestor veneration is a tradition that has persisted to this day throughout the Orient, despite the assault of modernity and the cultural influence of Western individualism. Having known a Japanese family intimately for twenty-five years, I have had the opportunity to observe that even Westernized urban Japanese maintain a much stronger sense of loyalty and indebtedness toward their parents and ancestors than the average European. It seems to me to be part of their mental make-up. Whether this affects the ethical standards they generally live up to within their family, their community and their nation is something that hardly needs to be demonstrated.

Are we, Europeans, fundamentally different? Is our brain, for some evolutionary reason, hardwired differently and simply unable to function on this holistic, transgenerational mode? History clearly informs us that it is not so.

Where Have All Our Ancestors Gone?

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A great book of historical anthropology on the Aryans—Indo-Europeans, if you prefer—is The Aryan Household, its Structure and its Development by William Hearn (1879). “In the archaic world,” he writes, “society implied religious union. . . . Community of worship was, indeed, the one mode by which, in early times, men were brought together and were kept together. . . . The common meal prepared upon the altar was the outward visible sign of the spiritual communion between the divinity and his worshippers.”[1]William Hearn, The Aryan Household, its Structure and its Development, 1879, pp. 26-29. The most fundamental religious association for Aryans has always been the family, encompassing the living and the dead. The cult of the dead structured society from the family level up. It has long persisted after the Christianization. Triin Laidoner writes in Ancestor Worship and the Elite in Late Iron Age Scandinavia:

The fact that 13th- and 14th-century laws often mention the sacrifices and offerings to gravemounds and that ancestors were clearly the backbone of social order and economic and legal norms shows that the traditions relative to ancestors were so deeply established in early Scandinavia that they survived long after the conversion to Christianity, and even into the modern era.[2]Triin Laidoner, Ancestor Worship and the Elite in Late Iron Age Scandinavia: A Grave Matter, Routledge, 2020.

Ancestor worship was not only a domestic religion, because it extended into the public cults of great men, those whom the Greeks called heroes. Lewis Richard Farnell defined the hero as “a person whose virtue, influence, or personality was so powerful in his lifetime or through the peculiar circumstances of his death that his spirit after death is regarded as of supernatural power, claiming to be reverenced and propitiated.”[3]Lewis Richard Farnell, Greek Hero Cults and Ideas of Immortality (1921) Adamant Media Co., 2005, p. 343. Another important classic work on the subject is Erwin Rohde, Psyche: The Cult of Souls and the Belief in Immortality among the Greeks, 1925. There was no clear separation between the domestic dead and heroes worshipped on a more public level.[4]Martin P. Nilsson, Greek Popular Religion, Columbia UP, 1940. Nilsson shows that heroes were the subjects of ghost stories, like other dead. More recently, Carla Antonaccio, in An Archaeology of Ancestors: Tomb Cult and Hero Cult in Early Greece (Rowman and Littlefield, 1995), has shown that around the time the Gospels were written, Greece was “saturated with heroes” (p. 1).

In fact, there was no frontier between the realm of the gods and the realm of the dead. According to the great Icelandic historian Snorri Sturluson (1179-1241), the Northern god Freyr was originally a Swedish king worshipped after his death because of the benefits he continued to bestow on his people. When Freyr died, he was placed in his burial mound but it was claimed that he was still alive, so the Swedes took care of him by bringing him offerings. Because the harvests were good for three years following his death, the Swedes made him the god of the world and worshiped him for good harvests and peace (Sturluson, History of the Kings of Norway, I, 10). The nineteenth-century school of Comparative mythology used to interpret such stories as cases of men inventing a human origin for their gods (a process they called euhemerism, although it is the exact opposite of what Euhemerus suggested in the 4th century BC). But historical anthropology now embraces the former theory that sees the turning of the “great dead” into gods as a general tendency among all peoples.

There is even a wide spectrum of arguments in favor of the sweeping theory that culture evolved from funeral rites.[5]Jan Assmann, Mort et Au-delà dans l’Égypte ancienne, Rocher, 2003. It is for their dead that men built their first stone dwellings.[6]Pierre Deffontaines, Géographie et religions, Gallimard, 1948. It was to immortalize their dead that they shaped their first images,[7]Hans Belting, Pour une anthropologie des images, Gallimard, 2004. told their first epic stories and their myths of the other world,[8]Frands Herschend, “Material Metaphors – some Late Iron Age and Viking Examples,” in Margaret Clunies Ross, ed., Old Norse Myths, Literature and Society, University Press of Southern Denmark, 2003, pp. 40-65. or played their first drama.[9]Death masks were used to make the dead speak, as was still reported about Caesar’s funerals by Appian of Alexandria (2.146-147).

The theory that ancestor veneration is the primary root of religion had been defended by Numa Denis Fustel de Coulanges in his masterful work The Ancient City: A Study of the Religion, Laws, and Institutions of Greece and Rome, published in 1864: “This religion of the dead appears to be the oldest that has existed among this race of men. Before men had any notion of Indra or of Zeus, they adored the dead.” Among the ancient Greeks and Romans, the family was the primary religious institution:

Generation established a mysterious bond between the infant, who was born to life, and all the gods of the family. Indeed, these gods were his family — they were of his blood. The child, therefore, received at his birth the right to adore them, and to offer them sacrifices; and later, when death should have deified him, he also would be counted, in his turn, among these gods of the family. But we must notice this peculiarity — that the domestic religion was transmitted only from male to male. . . .

Outside the house, near at hand, in a neighboring field, there is a tomb — the second home of this family. There several generations of ancestors repose together; death has not separated them. They remain grouped in this second existence, and continue to form an indissoluble family. Between the living part and the dead part of the family there is only this distance of a few steps which separates the house from the tomb. On certain days, which are determined for each one by his domestic religion, the living assemble near their ancestors; they offer them the funeral meal, pour out milk and wine to them, lay out cakes and fruits, or burn the flesh of a victim to them. In exchange for these offerings they ask protection; they call these ancestors their gods, and ask them to render the fields fertile, the house prosperous, and their hearts virtuous.

There is an obvious connection between taking care of one’s ancestors and the hope for a happy afterlife, because everyone expects to be welcomed by his ancestors when leaving this world. This was represented in Roman funeral processions, where it was customary to carry the image of the newly deceased; from the family mausoleum the images of the dead family members came to meet him halfway, to welcome him, and to accompany him to the family grave.

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Because every man expected his male descendants to assure to his manes peace and happiness, “every family must perpetuate itself forever. It was necessary to the dead that the descendants should not die out. . . . Every one, therefore, had an interest in leaving a son after him, convinced that his immortal happiness depended upon it. It was even a duty towards those ancestors whose happiness could last no longer than the family lasted.” Another consequence was the abhorrence of adultery. “For the first rule of the worship was that the sacred fire should be transmitted from father to son, and adultery disturbed the order of birth. . . . the son born of adultery was a stranger. If he was buried in the tomb, all the principles of the religion were violated, the worship defiled, the sacred fire became impure; every offering at the tomb became an act of impiety . . . and there was no more divine happiness for the ancestors.”

On the other hand, because “the ancient family was a religious rather than a natural association,” it was possible to be integrated into the family by religious ritual. That is why “the wife was counted in the family only after the sacred ceremony of marriage had initiated her into the worship.” Likewise, “an adopted son was counted a real son, because, though he had not the ties of blood, he had something better — a community of worship.” Even the slave became part of the family through a ceremony that “bore a certain analogy to those of marriage and adoption. It doubtless signified that the newcomer, a stranger the day before, should henceforth be a member of the family, and share in its religion. . . . This is why the slave was buried in the burial-place of the family.”

Ridley Scott made a worthy effort to incorporate Roman ancestor worship in his epic film Gladiator (2000).
Ridley Scott made a worthy effort to incorporate Roman ancestor worship in his epic film Gladiator (2000).

In conclusion, ancestor worship was central in Greek, Roman, as well as German and Celtic traditions. Why then is the cult of the dead so foreign to us, their posterity? Why does our sacralization of the individual seem like an inverted image of the holistic blood values of our distant ancestors? Having established that Indo-Europeans once were ancestor-worshippers just like Asians, we need to understand why and how, unlike Asians, we thoroughly abandoned what once constituted the substance of our social fabric. What happened?

The Talking God Versus the Walking Dead

Redbad (or Radbod) was the king of Frisia from around 680 until his death in 719. He is considered the last independent ruler of Frisia before Frankish domination. According to a legend first recorded in the Life of the Frankish missionary Wulfram, Redbad had been persuaded to accept baptism and had already put one foot in the baptismal font, when he had second thoughts and asked Wulfram: “Will I join my ancestors in the hereafter?” Wulfram bluntly told him that this was out of the question, since his ancestors, having not been baptized, were all in Hell, while Redbad would join the ranks of the blessed in Heaven. Redbad then retracted his foot and declared that he would rather be with his ancestors in Hell than spend eternity in Heaven with a pack of saintly beggars. Soon after Redbad’s death, however, the Frisians were beaten and baptized, and no more was heard of their national independence.

This story illustrates the cultural shock that Christianity meant to our heathen ancestors. The problem was not the introduction of a new cult, especially since the ritual sharing of bread and wine in honor a deified hero was not particularly exotic. It would have been fine if missionaries had stuck to Jesus’s principle that “in my Father’s house are many rooms,” one of them being specially prepared by Jesus for those who love him (John 14:2-4). But a redactor made Jesus contradict himself by adding, “No one can come to the Father except through me” (14:6), and Christianity abided by that rule. It is the cult of a jealous god, the very same “theoclastic” divinity that spoke in the Torah.[10]The expression is from Jan Assmann, Of God and Gods: Egypt, Israel, and the Rise of Monotheism, University of Wisconsin Press, 2008. Conversion to Christianity meant the destruction of all other cults, and in particular the severing of the bond that united Indo-Europeans to their ancestors.

The Hollywood version (I haven’t watched it)
The Hollywood version (I haven’t watched it)

The shock had come to the Romans in the early 390s, when Phoenician-born Theodosius,[11]Theodosius was born and raised in Hispania Carthaginensis, where his father (who died in Carthage) was a powerful landlord. Iberian Phoenicians are the likely ancestors of Sephardi Jews. having taken control of the West after his mysterious ascension in the East, issued a comprehensive law prohibiting all non-Christian cults — except those of Jews. Imperial palace officers and magistrates were forbidden to honor their Lares with fire, their Genius with wine, or their Penates with incense. It is hard to imagine a more aggressive policy against the organic life of the Gentiles, and it is hard to understand how the Roman elite submitted to it, before imposing it on the people. Roman society must have been very corrupted and very degenerate to have succumbed to this crypto-Jewish coup — kind of like the French today submitting to forced Trinitarian vaccine baptism (the three Pfizer doses).

Of course, ordinary people long continued to pray to their ancestors at home: they were referred to as pagani, that is, “country folks”, peasants.

But the assault continued. In particular, “Christianity made a very clear break from the beliefs and customs that had prevailed in ancient society concerning the deceased,” explains medievalist Michel Lauwers. Augustine, another Carthaginian, composed around 422 a treatise “on caring for the dead” to affirm that traditional funeral rites are useless, and that even the place and the manner in which the dead were buried were irrelevant: “The faithful lose nothing by being deprived of burial, just like the unbelievers gain nothing by receiving it.” In another treatise, the Enchiridion, he regretted that Christians persisted in worshipping their dead, sometimes with ostentatious banquets, but conceded that Christian funerals are a “consolation” for the living.[12]Michel Lauwers, La Mémoire des ancêtres. Le souci des morts. Morts, rites et société au Moyen Âge (Diocèse de Liège, XIe-XIIIe siècles), Beauchesne, 1997, p. 79.

And so, rather than trying to eradicate ancestor worship, the Church strove to establish its own monopoly as sole mediator for people’s offerings to their dead: Christians were told they could contribute to the salvation of the deceased by paying for masses, or giving alms that the Church would pass on to the needy. The idea that the living could help alleviate the sufferings of the ordinary dead gave birth to the doctrine of Purgatory and to a major source of income for the Church.[13]Dominique Iogna-Prat, Ordonner et exclure. Cluny et la société chrétienne face à l’hérésie, au judaïsme et à l’islam, 1000-1150, Aubier, 1998.

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Although the living could, through the exclusive intercession of the Church, help their suffering dead, the reverse was not true. Only the saints, the “very special dead” that had been officially admitted into Heaven, could bestow blessings upon the living — but not upon their descendants, since, being chaste, they had none.[14]Peter Brown, The Cult of the Saints: Its Rise and Function in Latin Christianity, University of Chicago Press, 1981. The ordinary dead, consumed by pain, could do nothing for their mortal kinsmen, and whatever signs someone might receive from them were in reality tricks of the devil. All rites, stories, or beliefs that were not part of the clerical textbook were outlawed and slowly retreated into the folklore of fairy creatures, in ways that I have documented in my book La Mort féerique (based on my doctoral thesis in medieval anthropology).[15]Laurent Guyénot, La Mort féerique. Anthropologie du merveilleux (XIIe – XVe siècle), Gallimard, 2011. By eroding considerably the ties of solidarity between the dead and the living, Catholicism gradually transformed “solidary death” into “solitary death”, in the words of Philippe Ariès.[16]Philippe Ariès, L’Homme devant la mort, tome 1: Le Temps des gisants, Seuil, 1977.

Moreover, the doctrine of original sin, a cornerstone of Christianity laid down by Paul, implies that our biological genealogy is infected, and that we need to be cleansed from it by being born again “by the blood of Christ”, through baptism (Ephesians 2:11-13). In this way, our ancestors were declared our enemies, from whom Jesus saved us. Jesus’s own emphasis on personal salvation actually comes with a strong hostility to blood ties: “Anyone who comes to me without hating father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, yes and his own life too, cannot be my disciple” (Luke 14:26).[17]This is a radicalization of Matthew 10:37: “No one who prefers son or daughter to me is worthy of me.”

Applying this command to the letter, the saints or Christian hagiography severed their family ties and renounced all worldly responsibility and possessions. One of the best-known works of literature throughout the Middle Ages was the Life of Saint Anthony, the father of monasticism. Anthony was born of wealthy parents. After hearing during mass Matthew 19:21 (“If you would be perfect, go and sell what you have and give to the poor; and come follow Me and you shall have treasure in heaven”), he “went out immediately from the church, and gave the possessions of his forefathers to the villagers,” sold the rest and gave the money to the poor, and committed his sister to a convent. Then he went into the desert and lived alone for the rest of his life.

Of course, holy men living solitary ascetic lives exist in non-Christian countries, India being a good example. But Louis Dumont, an Indianist, has shown that Christianity differs from Indian traditions in a fundamental way. Indians admit and approve that some individuals forsake their social existence to seek enlightenment, as long as these individuals do not challenge the social order and its holistic dynamic, but remain the exceptions that confirm the rule. Christianity, according to Dumont, has upset that civilizational balance by declaring that sainthood is the only perfect life, the only straight road to Heaven, and that salvation from this world is every Christian’s calling. Because it views salvation as an individual quest, the purification from personal sins, Christianity laid the foundation for modern Western individualism.[18]Louis Dumont, Essays on Individualism: Modern Ideology in Anthropological Perspective, University of Chicago Press, 1992, pp. 23-59.

Saints who died passively for their creed replaced heroes who died while fighting for their communities. The debilitating power of Christianity didn’t escape Pagan Romans who, after the sack of Rome by Alaric’s Visigoths in 410, blamed Christians for having brought a curse on Rome by prohibiting the old cult of the Penate gods. Augustine wrote The City of God as a response to this accusation. His first point is that the misery suffered by the Romans was a blessing that brought them closer to God. As for the virgins who were raped, their soul was not contaminated, unless they experienced some pleasure, so no harm was done to them (Book I, chapter 10). Edward Gibbon has echoed the opinion of Pagan Romans that Christians, with their eyes focused on the City of God, caused the fall of the Roman Empire:

This indolent, or even criminal, disregard for the public welfare, exposed them to the contempt and reproaches of the Pagans who very frequently asked, what must be the fate of the empire, attacked on every side by the barbarians, if all mankind should adopt the pusillanimous sentiments of the new sect. To this insulting question the Christian apologists returned obscure and ambiguous answers, as they were unwilling to reveal the secret cause of their security; the expectation that, before the conversion of mankind was accomplished, war, government, the Roman empire, and the world itself, would be no more.[19]Edward Gibbon, The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, vol. I, chapter XV, part 5, on ccel.org.

The End of Catholic Paganism

It may be that the story of Redbad is today irrelevant, since Christianity is now the religion of our European ancestors up to twenty generations or more. It is true that the Catholic Church had embodied European identity for more than a millennium, and in 1920, Hilaire Belloc could still proclaim “The Church is Europe: and Europe is the Church” (Europe and the Faith, 1920). But the Catholicism of my grandparents had little in common with today’s Catholicism. The former differed from the latter as a living body of flesh and blood differs from a skeleton.

The flesh was, actually, largely pagan.[20]Bernadette Filotas, Pagan Survivals: Superstitions and Popular Cultures in Early Medieval Pastoral Literature, Toronto, Pontifical Institute of Mediaeval Studies, 2005. Indeed, the thesis that Christian exclusivism destroyed European cultic traditions must be tempered by an antithesis: this very exclusivism was, in practice, an inclusivism to some extent. The Church embraced the traditions that it could not smother. Thus James Russel writes about The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity[21]James C. Russel, The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity: a Sociohistoric Approach to Religious Transformation, Oxford University Press, 1994, p. vi., and we can also speak of “Celticization” in Ireland and Brittany. The cult of the Virgin Mother is a Christian appropriation of more ancient cults. It seems that ancestor worship was not very much affected by the Christianization before the Gregorian Reform: mortuary archaeology in Gaul shows that, from the fifth to the eighth century, the dead were buried with clothing, jewelry, animal remains, ceramics, coins, and weaponry.[22]Bonnie Effros, Merovingian Mortuary Archaeology and the Making of the Early Middle Ages, University of California Press, 2003.

This paganism in disguise, which was arguably the best part of Catholicism, survived until the 1950s, when 80 percent of the population of France still lived in village communities. The Council of Vatican II declared war against Catholic paganism, as the Reformation had done earlier. From then started the collapse of religious practice, and with it the dissolution of the village parish. Of course, Vatican II was not the only factor; tractors rendered mutual help less essential, and pesticides proved more efficient than holy water. But it was Vatican II that deprived the country folks of spiritual defenses against the ravages of modernity.

A new generation of enlightened priests, from petty-bourgeois background, targeted rural popular customs as “vestiges of paganism”. No more agrarian rites of blessing seeds and harvests! Catholicism ceased to be “the religion of the saints,” celebrated in prayers, pilgrimages and festivals. Many statues were removed from the apses where they nested. Saints, to be sure, were a pale imitation of pagan heroes, but the cult of their relics differed little and fulfilled the same purpose.[23]Notwithstanding what Peter Brown claimed in The Cult of the Saints, many local saints in Europe were pre-Christian heroes or deities with a new biography.

The miraculous was frowned upon. Mary, the favored recipient of popular prayers, whose worship was so rooted that Notre-Dame of Here was never confused with Notre-Dame of Elsewhere, was downplayed, and Marian piety suspected of impurity. “Let the faithful remember,” imparted Paul VI in November 1964, “that true devotion does not consist in a sterile and ephemeral movement of sentimentality, any more than in vain credulity.” For century, the icon of the Mother of God had been the hypostasized figure of maternity, and natalist policies had always been able to count on Mary as a sure ally. The birth rate dropped together with church attendance after Vatican II (again, not the only factor).

The Pardon at Kergoat (1891) by Jules Breton (Wikipedia)
The Pardon at Kergoat (1891) by Jules Breton (Wikipedia)

Religious sentiment was rationalized. The festive popular Catholicism of old had little dogmatic content. But now that the mysterious haze of Latin was dissipated, people who had been educated in secular schools were required to declare every Sunday that they literally believed that Jesus was born of a virgin and resurrected after death. The recitation of the creed in vernacular was, I think, one of the worst blows to Catholicism: men of honor do not like to be asked to lie, especially before God.[24]This section on Vatican II draws from Patrick Buisson, La Fin d’un monde Albin Michel, 2001. Buisson writes, p. 228: “the choice of the Church in favor of an implacable fight against superstitions ultimately fostered dechristianization by disembodying religious life, by depriving it of that which made it an expression of the sensible and the sentimental — a persistence of archaic mental structures.”

It is illogical, however, to see Vatican II as a betrayal of Christianity. The clerics who led the Council were the worthy heirs of the Church fathers, those urban intellectuals infatuated with the latest Jewish craze and intent to destroy, biblical style, all the false gods of the Gentiles. Vatican II was simply the last assault against European religious traditions. The Church cleaned up whatever it had so far maintained of the “veneration of the dead”, which was not much but better than nothing.

Now that Europeans are no more thankful to their dead, filial piety itself is outdated — even ridiculed —, marital unions are none of parents’ business, procreation is “my body my choice”, and the elders, having nothing to expect beyond the grave, no longer want to die, preferring to prolong their loneliness with a periodic injection of young blood. Children have only Mother’s Day to ritually express filial piety. Adding insult to injury, Halloween, that satanic mockery of the ancient Celtic festival of the dead, is now desecrating even our Catholic Day of the Dead.

Our syngenic instinct, and indeed our whole anthropological substance, has been eroded by two thousand years of Christian “salvation”, with its deadly cocktail of individualism and universalism. Only people whose mind has been indoctrinated by Christianity for many generations can be made as vulnerable as we are to the accusation of racism, to the point of welcoming hostile invaders in the name of universalistic moral principles, and not daring to denounce them when they rape our children. We must forgive.

If, as our distant ancestors believed and as Asians still believe, the ritual remembrance of past generations is the key to building families, communities and nations with a soul, then it is highly significant that we, Western Europeans, have now the weakest ancestral bond in the world, while our deadly enemies have an incomparably strong one, reaching back to a hundred generations.

The Semitic Clan Culture

In Judaism as opposed to Christianity, the exclusiveness of the cult means racial purity. As Kevin MacDonald notes, “Worshiping other gods is like having sexual relations with an alien — a point of view that makes excellent sense on the assumption that the Israelite god represents the racially pure Israelite gene pool.”[25]Kevin MacDonald, A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, Praeger, 1994, kindle 2013, e. 2557-58. Even for non-religious committed Jews, there is no higher command than endogamy. Intermarriage is, “from a biological point of view, an act of suicide,” wrote Benzion Netanyahu, father of the Israeli prime minister.[26]Benzion Netanyahu, The Founding Fathers of Zionism (1938), Balfour Books, 2012, kindle ed, e. 2203–7. Martin Buber wrote that Jews make blood “the deepest, most potent stratum of [their] being.” The Jew perceives “what confluence of blood has produced him. . . . He senses in this immortality of the generations a community of blood.”[27]Quoted by Brendon Sanderson in his review of Geoffrey Cantor and Mark Swetlitz’s Jewish Tradition and the Challenge of Darwinism, in The Occidental Observer.

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Paradoxically, ancestor worship in the strict sense has always been banned in Judaism. The prohibition goes back to the Bible.[28]Deuteronomy forbids the activity of “soothsayer, augur or sorcerer, weaver of spells, consulter of ghosts or mediums, or necromancer. For anyone who does these things is detestable to Yahweh your God” (18:11-12). Leviticus confirms: “Do not have recourse to the spirits of the dead or to magicians; they will defile you. I, Yahweh, am your God” (19:31). Whoever breaks this rule must be put to death (20:6-7 and 27). Isaiah condemns those who consult “ghosts and wizards that whisper and mutter” or “the dead on behalf of the living” (8:19). Yahweh chastises his people for “constantly provoking me to my face by sacrificing in gardens, burning incense on bricks, living in tombs, spending the night in dark corners” (65:3-4). Read Susan Niditch, Ancient Israelite Religion, Oxford University Press, 1997. It is consistent with the denial of individual immortality in biblical anthropology. That denial, well-known to scholars, prompted Schopenhauer to write: “The real religion of the Jews, as presented and taught in Genesis and all the historical books up to the end of Chronicles, is the crudest of all religions because it is the only one that has absolutely no doctrine of immortality, not even a trace thereof.”[29]Arthur Schopenhauer, Parerga and Paralipomena (1851), Oxford UP, 1974, vol. 1, pp. 125-126. He repeated, in vol. 2, p. 301: “And so in this respect, we see the religion of the Jews occupy the lowest place among the dogmas of the civilized world, which is wholly in keeping with the fact that it is also the only religion that has absolutely no doctrine of immortality, nor has it even any trace thereof.” But from another viewpoint, the denial of individual immortality is advantageously compensated by the belief in national immortality. “The Jews that have a deeper understanding of Judaism,” wrote Harry Waton, “know that the only immortality there is for the Jew is the immortality in the Jewish people. Each Jew continues to live in the Jewish people, and he will continue to live so long as the Jewish people will live.”[30]Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites: A Program for Humanity, 1939 (archive.org), p. 133. Thus Moses Hess protested against the attempt of Reformed Judaism to mimic the Christian concept of the individual soul: “Nothing is more foreign to the spirit of Judaism than the idea of the salvation of the individual.” For Hess and many Zionists after him, the essence of Judaism, and the source of the strength of the Jewish people, is the belief in the destiny of Israel as a collective being with one life and one soul. As I wrote in “Israel as One Man”:

An individual has only a few decades to accomplish his destiny, while a nation has centuries, even millennia. Jeremiah can reassure the exiles of Babylon that in seven generations they will return to Jerusalem (“Letter of Jeremiah,” in Baruch 6:2). Seven generations in the history of a people is not unlike seven years in the life of a man. While the Goy awaits his hour on the scale of a century, the chosen people see much further. The national orientation of the Jewish soul injects into any collective project a spiritual force and endurance with which no other national community can compete.

This applies to the Jewish project of destroying Esau, aka Rome or the White race. Whoever wants to destroy a race has only to destroy filial piety in one generation, and that generation will finish the job from inside. This was achieved by in the 60s, but it had begun by reeducating German children to hate their parents and grandparents for supporting Adolf Hitler. As I argued in “Will the denazification ever end?”, breaking that curse is a major battle. Germans can take example on Monika Schaefer.

Our Jewish lords, who have always believed that “All is race — there is no other truth,”[31]Sidonia, Disraeli’s alter ego, in Coningsby (1844). are now brainwashing us with the dogma that race doesn’t exist; and the Catholic Church, or course, agrees. We are utterly disarmed against Jewish Power, but also against the invasive thrust of highly clannish Arabs and Africans. Unlike Christianity, Islam has never waged war on ethnic and clannish solidarities, and the example of Muhammad is significant in that regard. In the 14th-century, the historian Ibn Khaldoun made a vivid portrait of Arab blood culture, which “makes the troops composed of Arabs (of the desert) so strong and so formidable; each fighter has only one thought, that of protecting his tribe and his family. . . . The harm done to one of our parents, the outrages they suffer, seem to us to be so many attacks on ourselves.” For Arabs, Ibn Khaldoun insists, leadership always belongs to a clan, never to an individual:

A family which made itself respected and feared by its unity and its esprit de corps, and which is made up of individuals belonging to a race whose blood is pure and whose reputation is intact, places itself by this brotherhood of feelings, in a very advantageous position and achieved great success. If, along with this, this family counts several illustrious figures among its ancestors, its wields even more influence.[32]Ibn Khaldoun, Les Prolégomènes, traduits en français et commentés par William MacGuckin, 1863, part I, pp. 281-283, read on http://classiques.uqac.ca/classiques/Ibn_Khaldoun/I...n.html

I am not saying that being a Christian today is damaging to your sense of kinship. It is not, obviously, for Christianity has long become a stronghold of conservatism. But there is nothing in the Christian faith that is inherently favorable to racial solidarity — or to gender differences, for that matter. The Christian God, who knows only individuals — unlike the Jewish God, who knows only tribes and nations —, will be of little help in the struggles to come.

On the other hand, Darwin will not save us either. Darwinian “race realists” are gravely mistaken if they think that their theory can instill in the masses the love of their race — or any kind of meaning to their life. I have explained in “Blood and Soul: An essay in Metagenetics” why I regard Darwinism not only as outdated science, but as a cultural disaster. Being a consistent Darwinian means believing that humans are purely material beings, random assemblages of self-replicating molecules, evolved from the single-cell bacteria by an indefinite series of chemical accidents. Besides, another indisputable “truth” of Darwinism, and its main message to the masses, is that our ancestors were African apes. How then can the Darwinian paradigm help us rebuild a vertical relationship with our ancestors? Ancestor veneration means talking to your ancestors to express gratitude and ask for protection and guidance, but a Darwinian has filled his mind with the absolute certainty that his dead ancestors have no existence. Just like Christianity cannot be a solution to the problem it has created, Darwinism cannot be a solution to the materialistic and individualistic mentality that it greatly contributes to amplify. I can only here repeat Nietzsche’s prophecy that, if Darwin’s ideas were “thrust on the people in the usual mad way for another generation, no one need be surprised if that people drown on its little miserable shoals of egoism, and petrify in its self-seeking.” Note that Nietzsche did not condemn the theory of evolution, only its Darwinian reduction to random mutations. He was more or less a vitalist, like Schopenhauer who denounced the stupidity of reducing “organic Nature . . . to a mere chance play of chemical forces.”[33]The full quotes are in my article “Blood and Soul: An essay in Metagenetics.”

In conclusion, I hope to have shown that a very basic historical and anthropological overview is sufficient to reach the objective conclusions that, first, ancestor veneration has been, and still is in Asia, a vital spiritual foundation for organic societies, and second, that the destruction of the Romano-German ancestor religion by Christianity now leaves the White race totally defenseless in the anthropological war waged against it.

I am not suggesting that if enough families invited their ancestors for lunch, they could save our civilization. The Ghost Dance didn’t save the Sioux in 1890[34]Interestingly, anthropologist Weston La Barre used the Ghost Dance as the symbol for the theory that relationship with the dead ancestors is the foundation of traditional societies (The Ghost Dance: The Origins of Religion, 1970).. And in 1854, chief Seattle of the ancestor-worshipping Suquamishs had to surrender, saying:

A few more moons, a few more winters, and not one of the descendants of the mighty hosts that once moved over this broad land or lived in happy homes, protected by the Great Spirit, will remain to mourn over the graves of a people once more powerful and hopeful than yours. . . . And when the last Red Man shall have perished, and the memory of my tribe shall have become a myth among the White Men, these shores will swarm with the invisible dead of my tribe . . . The White Man will never be alone. Let him be just and deal kindly with my people, for the dead are not powerless. Dead, did I say? There is no death, only a change of worlds.

But I do picture the Western world to come as a social and moral chaos where survival, sanity, and happiness will depend on the ability to build healthy and strong clans, which supposes a religious foundation upholding the sacredness of blood and kinship, and loyalty to ancestors — with or without Christianity.

In case you wonder if I myself practice ancestor veneration, the answer is: yes, somehow. I’d like to share with you how seeing myself — and my parents — as members of a community of struggling souls, has given my life an added dimension. But that is too personal a story. I can only recommend the experiment.

Notes

[1] William Hearn, The Aryan Household, its Structure and its Development, 1879, pp. 26-29.

[2] Triin Laidoner, Ancestor Worship and the Elite in Late Iron Age Scandinavia: A Grave Matter, Routledge, 2020.

[3] Lewis Richard Farnell, Greek Hero Cults and Ideas of Immortality (1921) Adamant Media Co., 2005, p. 343. Another important classic work on the subject is Erwin Rohde, Psyche: The Cult of Souls and the Belief in Immortality among the Greeks, 1925.

[4] Martin P. Nilsson, Greek Popular Religion, Columbia UP, 1940. Nilsson shows that heroes were the subjects of ghost stories, like other dead. More recently, Carla Antonaccio, in An Archaeology of Ancestors: Tomb Cult and Hero Cult in Early Greece (Rowman and Littlefield, 1995), has shown that around the time the Gospels were written, Greece was “saturated with heroes” (p. 1).

[5] Jan Assmann, Mort et Au-delà dans l’Égypte ancienne, Rocher, 2003.

[6] Pierre Deffontaines, Géographie et religions, Gallimard, 1948.

[7] Hans Belting, Pour une anthropologie des images, Gallimard, 2004.

[8] Frands Herschend, “Material Metaphors – some Late Iron Age and Viking Examples,” in Margaret Clunies Ross, ed., Old Norse Myths, Literature and Society, University Press of Southern Denmark, 2003, pp. 40-65.

[9] Death masks were used to make the dead speak, as was still reported about Caesar’s funerals by Appian of Alexandria (2.146-147).

[10] The expression is from Jan Assmann, Of God and Gods: Egypt, Israel, and the Rise of Monotheism, University of Wisconsin Press, 2008.

[11] Theodosius was born and raised in Hispania Carthaginensis, where his father (who died in Carthage) was a powerful landlord. Iberian Phoenicians are the likely ancestors of Sephardi Jews.

[12] Michel Lauwers, La Mémoire des ancêtres. Le souci des morts. Morts, rites et société au Moyen Âge (Diocèse de Liège, XIe-XIIIe siècles), Beauchesne, 1997, p. 79.

[13] Dominique Iogna-Prat, Ordonner et exclure. Cluny et la société chrétienne face à l’hérésie, au judaïsme et à l’islam, 1000-1150, Aubier, 1998.

[14] Peter Brown, The Cult of the Saints: Its Rise and Function in Latin Christianity, University of Chicago Press, 1981.

[15] Laurent Guyénot, La Mort féerique. Anthropologie du merveilleux (XIIe – XVe siècle), Gallimard, 2011.

[16] Philippe Ariès, L’Homme devant la mort, tome 1: Le Temps des gisants, Seuil, 1977.

[17] This is a radicalization of Matthew 10:37: “No one who prefers son or daughter to me is worthy of me.”

[18] Louis Dumont, Essays on Individualism: Modern Ideology in Anthropological Perspective, University of Chicago Press, 1992, pp. 23-59.

[19] Edward Gibbon, The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, vol. I, chapter XV, part 5, on ccel.org.

[20] Bernadette Filotas, Pagan Survivals: Superstitions and Popular Cultures in Early Medieval Pastoral Literature, Toronto, Pontifical Institute of Mediaeval Studies, 2005.

[21] James C. Russel, The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity: a Sociohistoric Approach to Religious Transformation, Oxford University Press, 1994, p. vi.

[22] Bonnie Effros, Merovingian Mortuary Archaeology and the Making of the Early Middle Ages, University of California Press, 2003.

[23] Notwithstanding what Peter Brown claimed in The Cult of the Saints, many local saints in Europe were pre-Christian heroes or deities with a new biography.

[24] This section on Vatican II draws from Patrick Buisson, La Fin d’un monde Albin Michel, 2001. Buisson writes, p. 228: “the choice of the Church in favor of an implacable fight against superstitions ultimately fostered dechristianization by disembodying religious life, by depriving it of that which made it an expression of the sensible and the sentimental — a persistence of archaic mental structures.”

[25] Kevin MacDonald, A People That Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy, Praeger, 1994, kindle 2013, e. 2557-58.

[26] Benzion Netanyahu, The Founding Fathers of Zionism (1938), Balfour Books, 2012, kindle ed, e. 2203–7.

[27] Quoted by Brendon Sanderson in his review of Geoffrey Cantor and Mark Swetlitz’s Jewish Tradition and the Challenge of Darwinism, in The Occidental Observer.

[28] Deuteronomy forbids the activity of “soothsayer, augur or sorcerer, weaver of spells, consulter of ghosts or mediums, or necromancer. For anyone who does these things is detestable to Yahweh your God” (18:11-12). Leviticus confirms: “Do not have recourse to the spirits of the dead or to magicians; they will defile you. I, Yahweh, am your God” (19:31). Whoever breaks this rule must be put to death (20:6-7 and 27). Isaiah condemns those who consult “ghosts and wizards that whisper and mutter” or “the dead on behalf of the living” (8:19). Yahweh chastises his people for “constantly provoking me to my face by sacrificing in gardens, burning incense on bricks, living in tombs, spending the night in dark corners” (65:3-4). Read Susan Niditch, Ancient Israelite Religion, Oxford University Press, 1997.

[29] Arthur Schopenhauer, Parerga and Paralipomena (1851), Oxford UP, 1974, vol. 1, pp. 125-126. He repeated, in vol. 2, p. 301: “And so in this respect, we see the religion of the Jews occupy the lowest place among the dogmas of the civilized world, which is wholly in keeping with the fact that it is also the only religion that has absolutely no doctrine of immortality, nor has it even any trace thereof.”

[30] Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites: A Program for Humanity, 1939 (archive.org), p. 133.

[31] Sidonia, Disraeli’s alter ego, in Coningsby (1844).

[32] Ibn Khaldoun, Les Prolégomènes, traduits en français et commentés par William MacGuckin, 1863, part I, pp. 281-283, read on http://classiques.uqac.ca/classiques/Ibn_Khaldoun/Ibn_Khaldoun.html

[33] The full quotes are in my article “Blood and Soul: An essay in Metagenetics.”

[34] Interestingly, anthropologist Weston La Barre used the Ghost Dance as the symbol for the theory that relationship with the dead ancestors is the foundation of traditional societies (The Ghost Dance: The Origins of Religion, 1970).

 
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  1. Why is this so hard for contemporary Christians or moderns in general? It’s there in the ten commandments, which were clearly endorsed in the gospels: Honor thy father and thy mother, to which a sensible person would assume includes their mothers and fathersund so weiter. Vatican II should be regarded for what it is: Apostasy.

    Naturally its advocates wanted to root out honoring the mothers and fathers in European Christendom while they simultaneously honor and tip the host in submission to the voodoo spirts from the pit of hell in places like Haiti – founded with a sacrifice to Satan himself (reaffirmed in the Clinton era). More recently, High-Fellatin’ Franny (the current Anti-Pope) held a ceremony in St. Peters itself in honor of some Amazonian demons.

    Protestants, bowing to the Satanic skinsuit of the Judeo-Christ promoted since the time of Cyrus Scofield, are no better off. Russell Moore of the SBC took his thirty-million pieces of fake-silver from the likes of Satanic spawn George Soros. At least Judas Iscariot had the decency to hang himself. And we wonder why many are staying away in droves from so-called Christianity??

    • Replies: @anonymous
  2. ‘…’the turning of the “great dead” into gods as a general tendency among all peoples…’

    See the virtual deification of such decidedly flawed individuals as Winston Churchill and Martin Luther King, and — among some on the radical right — Adolf Hitler.

    We always tend to strip anyone we admire of all flaws. Bernard Law Montgomery becomes a great general, above criticism. Ulysses S. Grant was a military genius. Roman Polanski is a great film maker — and therefore he either didn’t drug, rape, and sodomize a thirteen year old girl, or it’s somehow okay.

    • Agree: 36 ulster, Not Raul
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @carroll price
  3. So tired and tendentious. It is impossible to imagine these neo-rightists praying to and for their grandparents. “Catholicism is subsumed paganism” – this is stupidity. The old pagans were racially suicidal and barbaric peoples.

    You cannot out-Jew the Jew in trying to smash Christianity and Catholicism. You can only prove yourself a fool who spits on his ancestors.

  4. jewclan says:

    Christians better start getting tribal, or they will never be able to beat back the kike perversion that is trying to kill them all. It is stunning the number of Christians who will side with jews against their own people. Evangelicals are the worst ones for this. Name the enemy; buy local; support Christian businesses and enterprises; keep your kids away from the jew-state and public school indoctrination. Find the ties that bond us together, or else hang separately.

    • Agree: Mike Fridelle
  5. Jim H says:

    ‘kind of like the French today submitting to forced Trinitarian vaccine baptism (the three Pfizer doses)’ — Laurent Guyénot

    This Trinitarian analogy ably captures the cult-like fanaticism driving mandatory vaccination — at least for now. As booster dose no. 4 looms, the heresy of pantheism lurks. /sarc

    Arguably the term ‘vaccine’ is itself a deceptive form of neurolinguistic programming. By the traditional definition of conferring immunity from infection, the various covid injections aren’t vaccines at all — thus the more appropriate neutral terminology of ‘injection.’

    If these substances really were able to ‘stop the spread,’ a plausible ethical case could be made for strong persuasion or even compulsion. ‘But what they [covid injections] can’t do anymore is prevent transmission,’ CDC director Rochelle Walensky admitted on CNN in early August.

    Somehow — perhaps owing to the cognitive hijacking of falsely calling them ‘vaccines’ — Walensky’s message just doesn’t penetrate the minds of hypnotized policy makers and judges, who find it as impossible to imagine a leaky, non-sterilizing ‘vaccine’ as to conceive of a god that isn’t really a deity.

    • Agree: IreneAthena
  6. anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:

    Magnificent, deeply evocative essay by Laurent Guyénot

    One plus of honouring ancestors, is that it gives a route of comfort for the many people now who have suffered from abusive, failing or abandoning parents

    Everyone and anyone can feel the mystic, family bond to an ancestor who was noble, beautiful and good, whose virtues have been inherited, even if a parent was despicable

    The other day was trying to track down the source of the relevant quote commonly attributed to King Polydorus of Sparta (c. 741-665 BCE)

    If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
    If you adopt your enemy’s religion, you are enslaved.
    If you breed with your enemy, you are destroyed.

    Apparently not found in Plutarch etc … but sourced by some as a circa 2001 creation of far-right author Eric Thomson

    • Agree: chris
    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  7. Cris M. says:

    This piece, article, have to name it something else, heritage tome, is really rich. Thoughtful compacting across time. The comment by anon above I would echo – very good comment. Appreciate the work you did Laurent, thank you. Sharing this one ~

    • Agree: chris, Kali
  8. As with all things, ancestor-veneration will always get taken too far if it becomes a thing that people can use to virtue-signal.

    Also, the lack of conditionality – ‘honor thy mother and father‘, even if they were objectively unpleasant people – is a simple trope that the impressionable can be encouraged to transfer to the State at some later point in their lives.

    Most people’s parents (and grandparents etc) are not particularly odious, but neither are they paragons of virtue who should be emulated. I happen to think that my Dad is a great guy who is a terrific father, and one of the very best aspects of having my Dad as a father was that there was no prohibition on dissent. (Mum, on the other hand, was not remotely into negotiation: she had 5 kids to wrangle – and knew that the old “wait ’til your father gets home” was not remotely fear-inducing).

    BUT… if Dad had been a genuine believer in the Old Nonsense none of us would have survived childhood.

    Let’s note that according to the Old Nonsense, there is no bilateral obligation whatsoever. Show insufficient obedience, and a kiddie’s immediate ancestors are instructed to defame their kiddie, and to organise for their kiddie to be brutally executed at the city gates… Deuteronomy 21:

    18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

    19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

    20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. [WTF?]

    21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

    Frankly, anyone who thinks that’s a useful bit of advice should be desexed: there’s enough shortcomings in the human genome without allowing shit like that to propagate.

    It’s not even clear that ‘honour thy mother and father’ should be the default: it would make more sense to venerate such ancestors who earned it.

    That’s my conclusion, because Bias of Priene was objectively correct when he pointed out 2600 years ago, oi pleistoi anthropoi kakoiMost People Are Shit*.

    IF oi pleistoi anthropoi kakoi;
    THEN
     • P(your parents deserve veneration) is strictly (much) less than 50%
    AND
     • P(all your ancestors deserve veneration) → 0 unless there is very strong negative covariance in intergenerational shittiness (which seems unlikely).

    So ancestor veneration is, at best, a version of the Lake Wobegone Effect: everyone assumes that their ancestors defy the odds.

    [*] Why “shit”, when kakoi in the Bias apophthegm is usually translated as ‘bad’ or ‘wicked’?

    The word is far more nuanced than that. It’s mostly interpreted by context, because it can mean anything from ‘bad’ to ‘useless’ to ‘unhappy’, ‘vulgar’, ‘ugly’, ‘corrupt’… all the way to ‘evil’.

    Wrap up all those things together, and the best vernacular translation is ‘shitty’ or just ‘shit’.

    Etymologically it is a cognate of κᾰκκᾰ́ω shit, and it makes sense linguistically in other contexts:

    κᾰκᾰ́ – ‘poo’ (for children, so adults can keep ‘shit’ as an expletive)
    κάκιστα – ‘shittiest’ (worst)
    κακότητα – ‘shittiness’ (badness; evil; malice)
    κακόφωνος – ‘shitty noise’ (cacophony)
    κακότροπος – ‘shit-tempered’ (bad-tempered)

    Point is: for every Greek word that begins with ‘kako’, there are several more specific words that don’t use ‘kako’ (e.g., dystropos – ill-tempered; tzanampétis – bad-tempered person).

    And lastly: Bias and the great pre-Socratics were fond of trolling – as evidenced by their tendency to make apparently-simple statements that were epistemically open-ended… e.g., the famous inscriptions at Delphi
     • ΓΝΩΘΙ ΣEΑΥΤΟΝ (know thyself);
     • ΜΗΔΕΝ ΑΓΑΝ (nothing excessively);
     • ΕΓΓΥΑ, ΠΑΡΑ ΔΑΤΗ (a pledge, then ruin; translated as ‘certainty brings ruin’, and by Diogenes Laertius as “whoever plights his troth steadfastly and trustfully brings a curse on his own head“).

    Joannes [of] Stobaeus (5th century CE) created a sort of anthology of famous Greek writers, ahd claimed to have compiled some ‘Delphic Maxims’, some of which are consistent with ancestor-veneration: Γονεῖς αἰδοῦ (respect your parents) and Προγόνους στεφάνου (crown your ancestors). It’s not clear to me (with my declared bias for Bias) that he was using ‘Delphic’ in any meaningful way, and it’s certainly not congruent with the broad thrust of Early-Stoa Stoicism.

    Plus, some of Stobaeus’ last 5 maxims[1] are not faithful representations of earlier versions (e.g., a version from ~800 years earlier on a tomb in Bactria).

    .

    KEK

    [1] Stobaeus uses ἴσθι (imperative ‘be!’; also imperative ‘know!’) instead of γίνου (‘be’) in ‘as children be good-mannered‘, and εὔλογος instead of εὔβουλος in ‘in old age [be reasonable]’; not dissimilar, but clearly not faithfully copying from the original.

  9. @Jim H

    I was thinking exactly that, but surely polytheism is better than pantheism, because the mRNA God that Failed is definitely preferred to any other false Gods like Sinovac, Astra Zeneca etc. Let alone daemons like ivermectin. The resemblances to a primitive, mass sacrificing, religion, like that of the Aztecs (and if they get their hands on the very young, Tlaloc leaps to mind)are definitely there. The blood bespattered High Priests of Big Pharmacide are due for a reckoning, I would say.

    • Agree: Jim H
  10. @Kratoklastes

    Hence ‘kakistocracy’, the rule of the worst. I always thought that it ought to be kakastocracy.

  11. First question I asked was this: who is Laurent Guyénot?

    From what little I could find, he was born around 1960, got an Engineering degree in 1982, and in 2009 got a PhD in Medieval Studies. His writings typically are deep into conspiracy notions, and he isn’t very shy about taking some mighty wacky stances.

    But before I expose the scientific fallacy of Darwinism…

    Evolution is a false doctrine, says the Engineer/Medieval Studies expert. Ka-Boom – just like that!

    In this very piece he embraces the transparent nonsense of the 1854 Chief Seattle speech in order to buttress some kind of ancestor-worship point.

    I found lots more really weird “stuff” in the LG articles I scanned, and while the guy could possibly have some valid “conspiracy” ideas, I’m not willing to wade though all the BS to try to sort them out. Another fellow whose articles I’ll try to remember to skip past in the future.

    • Disagree: Badger Down
  12. JWalters says:

    A great deal of anecdotal evidence attests to the fact that we each are an immortal soul. We have a material body to interact effectively with the material world. All who help us deserve our gratitude, including spirits, including ancestor spirits. The early shamans saw this.

    The Christians were only prepared to understand a small part of what Jesus was trying to teach. The Church hierarchy was then taken over by power players.

    Jewish self-segregation was imposed by the moneylender-rabbis, forcing Jews to divorce non-Jewish spouses and give up their joint children (described in the book of Nehemiah). This created a more solid financial and political power base. Their Talmud became a justification for piracy. They were even more disconnected from spirituality than the Christian “authorities”.

    If each person treated others as they would want to be treated, the world would be transformed, empowered by cooperation. But that does not imply we should submit to predators. Defense against injustice is a spiritual duty.

    • Agree: Kali
  13. Beautifully written history lesson on honoring our elders. I can’t say I have elders worth honoring as they were mostly all dead or missing in action while I was growing up.
    Today we honor 2SLGBBTQQIAPWXYZ+, BLM Magic Negroz, celebrity sluts, whores and pimps and deranged psychopaths disguised as community leaders marching us to the gates of hell.
    God has been whored out to pedophiles, perverts and messiah cult creeps preaching the word while molesting and raping our youth.
    There is a God, I just don’t believe he/she/it is concerned about our existence. To many planets in the universe and we are just one of trillions.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  14. And here in America, we hate our ancestors (at least our close elders) because of the wickedness, excess, and corruption of the baby boomers. As a result of the poisoning of the well by boomers, it’s easier to disregard all positive inheritance from the generations before them. This is a big reason our western WASP culture is being destroyed. The biggest reason is the removal of Christ from all aspects of public society.

  15. Anonimko says:

    It is an interesting topic originated at the beginnings of European civilisation. It was thousands of years before Romans’ appearance, thousands of years before (future) Greeks came to today’s Greece, right on time to attend the first Olympic games. To write about this topic we must know where and when was European civilisation born. I bet, not many people here know this. Who were European indigenous people? Who were Aryans (the text implicitly points on Scandinavians, but they were NOT Aryans). Aryans must be some group which in 2000BC already had formed their language for thousands of years, which they subsequently brought to SAsia together with Rg Veda.

    In regard to this topic, let see the English word ‘ghost’. There is a very intensive literature related to the term ‘ghost’, but I could not see where the origin of this word was, except one attempt to explain with Proto-Germanic or so. This concept was explained by ethnologists/anthropologists long time ago and confirmed later with archaeological and genetic findings. It originated about 10 K years ago in Lepenski Vir (Iron Gates) where indigenous people in their reverence often buried their ancestors under the fireplace or under the doorstep to preserve the presence of their spirits. They believed that the souls of their ancestors will appear in any newcomer and that is the root of their hospitability which endured for thousands of years up to modern times.

    There was already proved the genetic, linguistic and anthropological continuity in Lepenski Vir and Vinca since the Ice Age up to today. Even now, during family celebrations in Serbia, one chair is reserved for a coincidental passer-by or some uninvited visitor. Well, the Serbian name for the guest is GOST. This word is much later accepted in English as ‘ghost’, with a meaning – the soul or spirit of a dead person or animal that can appear to the living, but rarely anyone knows the origin of this word.

    PS. The term ‘Indo-European’ (former ‘Indo-Germanisch’) is fictional, in fact, meaningless. Which modern language is the most similar to Sanskrit?
    Radbod is a Serbian name. About Serbian medieval principalities, tribes and kingdoms in today’s Germany and around the Baltic there are few facts in the neighbouring thread about Jasenovac, comments #324 and #367.

  16. IreneAthena says: • Website

    Even into the the hearts of pre-Christians, God had written a yearning for compassion, the good, the true, and the beautiful. Evidence of this are the ceremonies in which slaves were adopted into the families of their owners, so that the slaves could benefit from the guiding influence of their master’s ancestors. Thanks to the author for bringing that to our attention.

    It’s too bad that the Christian missionary assumed his convert’s ancestors would be in hell, and told him so. Jesus’ death and resurrection opened the door to Heaven to all who, living a good life according to the light available to them, would have welcomed Jesus had they been born late enough to have the opportunity to do so in life. Our Creator understands the secrets of our hearts and can judge accordingly.

    That Christian missionary could have told the convert that, in addition to the possibility that his ancestors would be waiting for him in Heaven, he would also be adopted into the great family of God, just as slaves in his culture were adopted into their master’s family. The new adoptee into God’s family, spanning ages and cultures, could now expect guidance and encouragement from these spiritual family members:

    Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking unto Jesus, the [a]author and [b]finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

    There are a couple of quibbles, though. The Christian was very much responsible for providing for his own family. To neglect to do so, the Bible tells us, would be to be “worse than an infidel” as the infidels DID generally care for their own. After those responsibilities were met, the Christian is urged to exhibit charity to those outside his own family, first to the members of “the household of faith,” and after that, to anyone who might have a legitimate need he could meet.

    Giving away to strangers the inheritance that belongs to one’s own children is morally wrong according to the Christian doctrine stated above.

    The second mistake occurs around footnote 14, where the author states that, being chaste, the Christian saints left no offspring. What? No. Saint Augustine’s mother Saint Monica is one counter-example that immediately comes to mind, and there are likely others. The author is confusing voluntary “celibacy” (vow to remain unmarried) with “chastity.” Married folk who were faithful to their spouses could remain chaste and still bear children — and, lots of ’em, too!

  17. Monotheistic pseudo religions are very efficient at controlling and subjugating masses.
    Polish fellow, cast in roll of grand wizard for Catholics and his advice to them about OBEDIENCE now in exchange for ever lasting peace, comes to mind, in sharp contrast to present day master who is of a woke and perverted progressive wing of globalist thugs.
    Very clever and altruistic to dangle carrots in front of them.

    • Replies: @Francis Miville
  18. G. Poulin says:

    If the coming of Christianity really meant the destruction of all other cults, then the pagan world would not have accepted Christianity as readily as it did. It would be more accurate to say that Christianity absorbed the old cults and incorporated their key elements into itself. Catholics practice a kind of ancestor worship, even if is not acknowledged as such. They will call Saint Mary “the mother of the church”, even though no one claims direct descent from her. It is thought of as a spiritual motherhood rather than a matter of blood kinship. Same basic concept in a different form. Entirely healthy, in my opinion.

    • Agree: Not Raul
  19. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Jim H

    I’d forgotten about the reference to vaccines in the article until you pointed it out. Will this turn into another LOL League of Loons (God Bless Us), commenting section?

  20. Franz says:

    Saints who died passively for their creed replaced heroes who died while fighting for their communities… Augustine wrote The City of God.. His first point is that the misery suffered by the Romans was a blessing that brought them closer to God.

    Indeed, Augustine extolled the true spirit of corruption Christianity brought on Europeans. That he thought it was a good thing only reminds us “Saint” Augustine was an African.

    It is so extensive it is easy to become fatalistic: We come to believe we must either destroy Christianity and tear its very memory from Europe’s soul. Or Europe has no soul and we are indeed seeing the extinction of the whole tribe of White.

    Fine and thought-provoking stuff. My family history shows indications of a Family Curse — I discovered this a few years back, just sifting through old family journals and letters. You find so much when you see the Divine in your people.

  21. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks for this profound meditation on ancestral bonds, it’s a welcome respite in a world that now tries to deem everything disposable.

    • Agree: Sarah
  22. geokat62 says:
    @Kratoklastes

    When you contrast the wisdom? of the Hebrews (by citing Deuteronomy) with that of the Ancient Greeks (by citing the Presocratics), it becomes abundantly clear why Gilad Atzmon pines for the world to depart from Jerusalem and return to Athens.

  23. Anonimko says:

    Slava (lit. ’Glory, Celebration’) is a Serbian Orthodox Christian tradition of the ritual of glorification of one’s family’s patron saint. The family celebrates the Slava annually on the saint’s feast day. In November 2014 it was inscribed in UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists of Serbia.

    The Slava is the family’s annual ceremony and veneration of their patron saint, a social event in which the family is together at the house of the patriarch. Also, the friends of the family come to the patriarch’s house, usually without a prior invitation. The family saint is inherited from the head of the household – from father to son, while women adopt the patron saint of their husbands upon marriage. Some families may celebrate another patron saint in the case when the wife is the only left of her kin, in respect to her family. In cases where the daughter’s husband has joined (traditional) household of the parents-in-law, the wife’s father’s slava is celebrated as the main one (when guests are expected and/or invited) and the son-in-law’s only as an additional lesser one (when just a festive meal is prepared for the family and no manual work is carried out, but no guests are expected).

    The slava is a reinterpretation of a Serbian pagan rite: the ancestor-protector became a Christian saint, frequently St. Nicholas, with the pagan rite being reduced of many religious elements and frequent ceremonies and becoming a social event with the annual meeting of the family and friends.

    The tradition is an important ethnic marker of Serbian identity. There is a slogan: “Where there is a Slava, there is a Serb”, was raised as a Serbian national identifier. Serbs usually regard the Slava as their most significant and most solemn feast day. The tradition is also very well preserved among the Serbs worldwide. Only Serbs have Slava.

  24. Anonimko says:

    There is a very intensive literature related to the term ‘ghost’, but I could not see where the origin of this word was, except one attempt to explain with Proto-Germanic or so. This concept was explained by ethnologists/anthropologists long time ago and confirmed later with archaeological and genetic findings. It originated about 10 K years ago in Lepenski Vir where indigenous people in their reverence often buried their ancestors under the fireplace or under the doorstep to preserve the presence of their spirits. They believed that the souls of their ancestors will appear in any newcomer and that is the root of their hospitability which endured for thousands of years up to modern times.

    It is already proved the genetic, linguistic and anthropological continuity since the Ice Age up to today. Even now, during family celebrations one chair is reserved for coincidental passer-by or some uninvited visitor. Well, the Serbian name for the guest is GOST. This word is much later accepted in English as ‘ghost’, with a meaning – the soul or spirit of a dead person or animal that can appear to the living, but rarely anyone knows its origin.

  25. @Proud_Srbin

    Polytheistic religions are an even more perfect tool. The Hindu masses have always been proverbially among the most controlled in the world and the Hindu caste society is what makes Jewish usurers enter into wet dreams seing it. The only betterment these Jews want to bring is they themselves revealing to those Hindu masses as being the gods they have always adored. Bollywood is the purest and most foreseable expression of Hinduism in a world of modern technology, and it can be surmised that Hollywood wants to be the same as the US is getting trance-formed into a future caste society.

  26. Trinity says:

    There are certain aspects of Oriental culture that I admire and one is how they respect their elders. Well, we can certainly blame this one on the Jew as well. While I AM NOT SHY ABOUT CONDEMNING THE WWII GENERATION FOR KILLING TENS OF MILLIONS OF WHITES FOR JEW GANGSTERS AND SOCIOPATHS, I still respect how they did build help build America at least. Sure, BUT THEY TORE DOWN THE WHOLE CONTINENT OF EUROPE FOR JEWS. Okay, enuff. hehe.

    You can see how Jews like Norman Lear would push the hate your daddy and mama shit way back then on all those Jewy sitcoms, most notably, “All In The Family” where Archie aka Carroll O’Connor battles Meathead played by (((Rob Reiner.))) The ironic thing was that Connor was a notorious piece of white traitor trash in real life. Only a piece of white traitor trash would make his own kind look stupid for the Jew on television, right Carroll? (((They))) always made “Archie” look so stupid but the trouble is everyone knew that good ole Archie was telling the truth for the most part. I remember even seeing people wearing t-shirts, “Archie Bunker For President” back when the show first hit the air. Shit, that shirt probably outsold the “Sock It To Me” shirts. haha. I guess white traitor trash O’Connor was a good friend of the Jews in Hymiewood. Carroll probably performed well for the shekels he received to make fun of his generation and race. POS.

    And even today, we have ALLEGED “White Nationalists” like a contributor to this site bashing on White Boomers. A Zoomer, Millennial or even late Gen Xers are the last people on earth who need to bash on anyone. Incel and emo effeminate males who cannot fuck or fight, females who lay down with muds and Negroes, ( I can count on one hand how many girls I knew growing up slept or dated a nonwhite male), 30-40 something year old adult CHILDREN still living with mom and dad, good gawd, and these clowns bash Boomers. Of course I don’t like to do the Jew’s work for him by bashing youngsters because while there are tons of USELESS Whites under 30, there are also some very fine youngsters out there and they are making White babies while certain “White Nationalists” go around screwing Oriental prostitutes and downing White females because perhaps they cannot get a White woman.

    Damn, I got off course with that little rant. Anywho, I see older and poorer Whites have to go into these nursing homes which in my neck of the woods is mostly staffed with Blacks. I think a lot of these Blacks take these jobs for the same reason that homosexuals want positions with the boy scouts or become priests ( I doubt many of these chomos ever even believed in God, how could they and still molest kids?) It is an opportunity for these hate-filled Blacks to mistreat helpless old White people. I vividly remember seeing a video out of South Africa with an overweight sheboon beating on an elderly and frail White woman. God bless her, that old White lady did fight back but she just wasn’t capable of much. IF that was a member of my family? Talk about a slap heard around the world. Probably a slap and then come across with a backhand behind it for good measure.

  27. @Butcher_Bear

    The two-fold reason is the removal of Christ from all aspects of American liberal humanistic culture and its transformation into a representative of Mammon by the Zionist Evangelists.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
  28. @anonymous

    If you worship your enemy instead of helping him you enslave him for eternity unless he refuses that worship : that is why the Catholic church and even more the Hindu fold worship the destitute and the the ascetics. This is the best insurance policy against any revolution or progress in favour of the poor. The cult of MLK ensured the groids would remain on the democratic plantation so as to fall back into the misery they had up to then painstakingly distanced themselves from. If you adopt your enemy’s religion you may one day destroy him, unless he abandons that religion for a better one : that is why so many White Americans are now excluded from the circles of American respectability as deplorables : the newcomers excluding them have adopted far better into the real American religion which is the cult of grift and money to be made through acts of virtue-signalling on the model of the Puritans of yore. If you breed with your enemy you defeat him. Gaul was not ultimately defeated by Cesar but by Nero and his numerous folowers who turned the country into a more Roman one that Rome ever was. The American negro is defeating the Whites by interbreeding with him.

    • Replies: @Patrick555
  29. Ann K says:

    Remember, though, that the Eastern Orthodox (from which one branch, Rome, left in 1054), venerate the Saints, many of whom did not die “passively,” but via the most brutal means imaginable.

    Recent examples: https://churchtodayrus.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/russias-catacomb-saints.pdf

    And our priests marry.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  30. Anonymous[145] • Disclaimer says:

    You should visit an English country church sometime. Walls and floors and pretty much everywhere declared with monuments to ancestors. Not for nothing are they called “The museums of the nation.” So I don’t completely buy Mr Guyenot’s thesis in toto, although he does make some interesting points.

  31. @Kratoklastes

    Etymologically it is a cognate of κᾰκκᾰ́ω shit,

    Well thank you very much, kk, for I shall never savor a sip of hot chocolate the same way again, nor would, I suspect, my ancestors! 😉

    PS: Permit me to be so bold as to request your etymology for “dyskolos”, (which I like to think refers to a “sore arse“) ?

  32. PolarBear says:

    Blessing in Hebrew is barak which means “lightening.” Jews want Jews to be pure but they take it a step further with “Every Gentile must bear the Mark of Cain(dark skin).” Naturally, the nig-arar(curse) is not against the upgrade but Jews run this dog and pony show.

  33. @Butcher_Bear

    Oh yeah its our fault. Prior to the GI Bill communities were still primarily populated in clusters of the old European tribes. The sons were all going to go into the family business or trade. The brighter ones would have likely been the future leaders of the community/tribe. Then WWII happened, and the GI Bill cherry picked the bright ones out. Created for the newly minted educated was the creepy burbs like Levittown. That is also where the current American class war began. Sadly most of you worship the very artificial Levittown 50’s where feminism and “boomerism” were seeded to the masses that mattered most in the eyes of the elite. Also most of you are end products of the GI Bill. So yes, blame all boomers and their parents who stayed with their tribes. You realize you are doing exactly what the elite intended?

  34. chris says:

    Another mind-blowing essay by Laurent; thanks!

    His essays are slowly building a much deeper understanding of where we came from, where we now are, and where we could be going. Great food for thought.

  35. @Zachary Smith

    When I write “Darwinism”, you read “Evolution”. Your case is hopeless. Goodbye.

  36. Thank you for a very thoughtful piece, Laurent Guyénot.
    The RCC (into which I was born) has killed many Christians; it is now a wholly owned Rothschild project with a masonic pope, yet people still follow this blind guide …
    Evangelicals are no better, promoting obedience to the children of satan (who control countries & govts) in historical rewriting, the entity that has occupied Palestine, “vaccines”, Usury, War against jews’ enemies, sodomy, agw. Etc.
    No lie too big to promote if there’s a shekel in it and/or the emiseration and death of many more millions … “ye are of your father the devil …”

    Their reward is tax-free status.
    They profess to believe in a final Judgment. Perhaps they think that, being servants of talmudists, they can learn to argue against/outwit the God who they supposedly believe will ask for their explanation, not to mention their forebears that they dishonour.

  37. And they also allow devices

  38. Islam strikes a balance between tribalism and the universalist monotheism that enables spiritual/moral social structures that bring tribes together into a larger civilization. Judaism errs on the side of tribalism, Christianity (especially what’s left of it today) on the side of anti-tribalism.

    • Replies: @Jack McArthur
  39. ricpic says:

    In Judaism the soul is immortal. The body of course dies but the soul, after an uncomfortable period of adjustment, in most cases a year, goes to heaven. This is why the prayer for the dead is recited by a son for his departed father for a year.

    • Replies: @Zumbuddi
  40. Laurent, it is a though-provoking article and I do not dismiss what you say out of hand…

    BUT… there is a basic fact here, that if a people’s fertility rate is substantially below replacement level, and this continues for very long, then…. Or, I mean to say that people can worship their ancestors as much or as little as they want, but that is not how one makes babies!

    In that vein, consider the data on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate

    As I see it, the only “white” country that has a fertility rate above replacement level is Argentina, and that is still just 2.4. (That is leaving aside Israel, which most people here would consider to be a dubious case.)

    The world champions as regards sterility are the South Koreans, it seems. That country is in the very last place and is the only country listed with less than 1 child per woman!

    Actually, France is suprisingly close to replacement level, at 1.87. Spain is way off from replacement level, at 1.24. Italy is about the same. The thing is that those countries, if you just looked at the white population, the fertility rate is surely lower than that, so if it’s 1.24 in Spain overall, I would have to guess that among the actual white Spaniards, it’s maybe 1.1 or something like that. Not even so much better than South Korea.

    Well, finally, I guess I would just make the point that the baby bust among the richer peoples in the world, does not seem so very different if you compare the white people in Europe with the yellow people in East Asia. Even leaving aside South Korea, you have Japan at 1.36 or Taiwan at 1.2. It’s true that those countries are not fomenting immigration to the extent that the white countries are. I guess these countries are quite densely populated and consider it would be good for the population to decrease somewhat. Maybe that’s a factor. But, if the tendency is not reversed at some point, then eventually….

  41. An important article, as there is much to think about and consider and observe in new ways, and with footnotes ta boot, so ….Thanks!

    This stood out:

    It would have been fine if missionaries had stuck to Jesus’s principle that “in my Father’s house are many rooms,” one of them being specially prepared by Jesus for those who love him (John 14:2-4). But a redactor made Jesus contradict himself by adding, “No one can come to the Father except through me” (14:6), and Christianity abided by that rule. It is the cult of a jealous god, the very same “theoclastic” divinity that spoke in the Torah.[10] Conversion to Christianity meant the destruction of all other cults, and in particular the severing of the bond that united Indo-Europeans to their ancestors.

  42. Splended article, Laurent Guyénot. You pulled a lot of the threads together, making much sense of the collapse of the Church in the West. That happened quite suddenly in the middle of the 20th Century. Even aging priests who grew up in the States or in Europe (but not the recent imports from India or the Philippines) are now willing to concede that the Church has become a spent force in the West. Asked why, they frequently place the blame on Vatican II for making the mass, for example, almost unfamiliar to the older parishioners. They now get deluged on Sunday with Old Testament legends that were reserved for bible history classes when I was a kid. It’s as though John Courtney Murray at Vatican II decreed that Catholics need to be more like Jews and Protestants. If so, this operation was successful but the patient died. You tie Vatican II among many other factors into the larger theme of lost veneration of our ancestors and how that negatively impacts our families, communities and society. Pretty convincing, and well done.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  43. Chris Moore says: • Website

    In China, despite decades of communist indoctrination, ancestor veneration is still very common. It finds support in Confucianism, which emphasizes filial piety and respect for ancestors (although Confucius had little to say about the existence of spirits). People participate in ritual offerings to the dead regardless of their other religious affiliation.

    The West used to venerate its cultural ancestors, namely Moses and Jesus. In fact, it did so until the ((Jewish)) criminals rigged Communism, Zionism and the big wars of 20th Century, particularly WW2, and then continuing into the 21st Century with the Zionist “War on Terror.” Ever since, Moses and Jesus have been framed is intolerant “anti-Semites.”

    The Commies still don’t like Confucianism, although they are gradually coming around since they now realize the ((Jews)) were behind Communism, and used it to break up the filial and community relationships that made China, just as they used Communism, Zionism and the wars to break up the filial and community relationships that made Christendom. All for the Golden Calf and the Moneychanger network.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  44. @Chris Moore

    Here about “The Jewish Contributions to the Chinese Revolution”
    https://icsum.org.my/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/IJCS-112-1Yitzhak-for-website.pdf
    But the Chinese’s attitude toward Jews in general is a mystery to me.

    • Replies: @Chris Moore
    , @Robjil
  45. @Jonathan Revusky

    You’ve got a point, Jon. It seems natural to assume that filial piety and ancestor veneration were traditionally conducive to fertility, but the situation in overcrowded and aging countries has certainly changed. In Japan (which I know a bit), the birth rate is very low. BUT Japan is in no danger of being “replaced”. And the same can be said about China, where fertility was (and still is) kept very low by law. So fertility may be a key factor of racial survival in the West, but not in Asia. I am not saying that low fertility is not a problem there, but it is actually interconnected with the increased longevity of old people. It could be said that dead ancestors encourage fertility, while zombies and vampires do not.
    But thanks for a thoughtful contradiction.

    • Thanks: Sarah
    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Anon
  46. Sarah says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    Actually, France is suprisingly close to replacement level, at 1.87

    French natives (White Europeans) have a fertility rate of about 1 (difficult to estimate precilely because race statistics are forbidden in France). 1.87 is a mean due to the ferlity rate of black Africans, North-African and Arabs from ME, who have often 3 or 4 children and more.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Revusky
  47. Anon[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Off topic, but I do not understand France at all. I enjoy reading your articles though if that means anything at all.

    French poll puts far-right pundit Zemmour ahead of Le Pen
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/6/french-poll-puts-far-right-pundit-zemmour-ahead-of-le-pen

    Jacques Attali

    brief history of the future
    https://archive.org/details/briefhistoryoffu0000atta

  48. Mevashir says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    Maybe you should become Mormon. They believe that the universe is filled with inhabited planets. In fact spiritually exalted Mormons after they die go on to create their own planets and spirit children in a process of eternal glorious heavenly sex.

    The contrary perspective uses the analogy of digging for gold or diamonds. You have to excavate an awful lot of worthless dirt in order to find the gems. And that may be a good analogy for a solitary life bearing planet in an enormous universe.

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  49. Mevashir says:
    @Jonathan Revusky

    When I lived in Israel I heard that secular Israelis have a below replacement birthrate. The ultra Orthodox and the Arabs have very high birth rates. Some surveys say by 2050 Israel will be 50% Ultra orthodox. However these people are not economically productive and do not serve in the military, so Israel as a military Sparta would be projected to collapse. I expect eventually it will become part of a Saudi Arabian or perhaps Persian Middle Eastern Imperial protectorate.

    This in fact was what the Orthodox Jews wanted prior to 1948. 90% of Orthodox Jews at that time opposed Zionism and wished to live as protected minority under the rulership of the king of Jordan. Perhaps their dream will come to pass. (The chief Rabbi of Jerusalem wrote many urgent letters to the UN begging them not to partition Palestine but to leave it as part of the Jordanian kingdom.)

    As far as low birth rates in general, my impression is that as income and quality of life increase birth rates drop. There are many reasons for this but one of them is that parents find life interesting and challenging and don’t need to incessantly reproduce and in fact find that babies interfere with their ability to enjoy the here and the now.

  50. Anon[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Judging by the thousands of comments defending Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew Herbert for their sex with underage girls some even younger than 13, it’s strange that you disapprove of Polanski. Finally an UNZ commenter with some sexual morals. Congratualations.

  51. anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @Exalted Cyclops

    When I was a Child in my village there was a individual id..BUT often times people asked for my last name..then they would usually say you grandfather is/was X…I woudl say yes..then doors open inmediately for me I became part of the local “clan”. Sometimes they would tell me stories about my grandfather/mother reagrding their mutual friendship. When I traveled outside the village, I woudl be adsvise as to where/ for whom to search . I was taught to honor my ancestors which put an emphais on my personal behavior. BUT all that seemd to be changing rapidly radically…Today is about you and only you. Schools, academia, MEDIA ridicolous “deplorabales” sense of extended hick culture. Now i am beginning to understand why hebrewjews have taken over schools and pushing parents OUT of the schools, academic institutions thus subverting their Christian/Comunal values. The next target for the hebrewsjews is the WHITE goyim families and their utter desintegration, their political weight and their racial/family ancestrals notions. ALL of these DO NOT APPLY to yeshivas/syanagogues/jewish institutions…PD…For all the talk about being Gods chosen people unlike Christian missionaraies I have NEVER seen a single RABBI/one,,,, ever help the sick,poor, hungry in Africa,Latin America…never. why??? if they are gods people why do they often times lead and profit from evil deeds like pornography, sodomy, sex trafficking, WARS, usury, abortions, ….a jew told me thatvthe universal primal rule for jews is ;IF is BAD for goyim then is good for jews…RABBIs encourage the destruction of the goyim…is that godly?????

  52. Anon[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    The main ,thing conducive to fertility is lack of reliable birth control. Unreliable birth control = high fertility. Reliable birth control= lower fertility.

    It’s very simple human anatomy, physiology, biology and the human sexual drive. Google human reproduction and history of reproduction and birth control. It’s biological facts and has nothing to do with philosophy and the author’s ridiculous opinions.,

  53. ziggurat says:

    Here is song that reflects a desire to reconnect with one’s heritage and rekindle its spirit:

    Lyrics:

    I know there’s so much more to this world
    Than where our focus centered
    On things that just don’t matter

    Below, there’s wreckage in the water
    With remnants of the timber
    Cut down by our forefathers

    Reminders of our own creations
    Stones were carved and hidden
    The fire still remains

  54. @St-Germain

    I was raised in an intensely family but married a Protestant. Lived for 15 years in No Man’s Land.

    One day I happened upon EWTN, “The Catholic Network” on TV and thought my old faith might be revived.

    The programming sent me into a deeper spiral than even (sporadic) attendance at Protestant services.
    Two programs were particularly disturbing: two former Protestant preachers (allegedly converted to Catholicism — or conveniently Catholic to get the TV spot) did a program called Our Father’s Plan, about the “covenant” between “Abraham, our father, and his chosen people.”

    It was, and remains, alien to the way I understood Catholicism. I decided then and there: Abraham is NOT my father.

    Much of EWTN program had an evangelical tone — Fr. John Neuhaus of First Things was a frequent guest. I could not stand his haughty arrogance, and, another convenient convert.

    Second feature on EWTN that appalled me was Alice Hildebrand — spoke with vaguely N. European accent, old lady, old crone.

    I learned a lot about Mother Angelica, who founded EWTN. Pat Robertson gave her a big start — she was tied into the televangelist network in the era of the Moral Majority.

    Haven’t tuned into EWTN in years (don’t have TV); don’t know if it’s still as bad as I thought it was back then.

    Angelica is dead and so is Neuhaus (zeus be praised). Heard the other day that Raymond Arroyo, the hispanic guy who used to do the news on EWTN, is a frequent guest on MSM.

  55. @Colin Wright

    Ulysses S. Grant was a military genius? Really?

  56. Zumbuddi says:
    @ricpic

    “the soul, after an uncomfortable period of adjustment, in most cases a year, goes to heaven. That is why the prayer for the dead is recited by a son for his departed father for a year.”

    So.
    That’s what makes a Jewish heaven.
    The absence of Jewish women.

  57. Seraphim says:

    It is somehow amusing seeing Mr. Guyenot turning ‘somehow’ to a ‘practice of ancestor veneration’ after his articles aimed at denying their existence (inventions of the ‘Renaissance’)!

  58. Trinity says:

    The average righteous individual doesn’t need the Torah, the Bible or the Koran to tell him the difference between right and wrong. God already installs that in humans, it is called a conscience and a heart. We can all attest to at least one “religion” that obviously operates without a conscience to speak of and a non-existent heart. I have seen atheists exhibit more compassion and have a better grasp on right and wrong than many “religious” people.

  59. Chris Moore says: • Website
    @Laurent Guyénot

    But the Chinese’s attitude toward Jews in general is a mystery to me.

    If the CCP had integrity, it would officially recognize ((Jews)) as behind Communist atrocities in China, all perpetrated for the agenda of Global Fiat Currency controlled by ((Jews)). If KGB Putin had integrity, he would officially recognize ((Jews)) as behind Communist atrocities in the Soviet sphere, all perpetrated for the agenda of a Global Fiat Currency controlled by ((Jews)).

    They may now know the truth (if they haven’t always), and they may now be quietly taking steps to stop ((Jews)) from attaining their goal, and they may nod in the direction of truth by venerating Solzhenitsyn (in the case of Putin) or by having a CCP official publicly name Wall Street ((Jews)) as historical secret collaborators with the CCP, but they won’t officially come out and name the ((Jews)) as behind the atrocities, nor why they perpetrated them.

    Why? Because they don’t want to admit they were duped by ((Jews)) into murdering millions of their own people (if they were in fact duped, and not knowingly evil).

    The US Deep State doesn’t want to name ((Jews)) for the same reason, only it didn’t murder its own directly (until 9/11) but rather murdered them by sending them off to fight wars for the ((Jewish)) Global Fiat Currency agenda.

    Colloquially known as the Golden Calf.

  60. R.C. says:

    Now, here was a man:

    Wulfram, Redbad had been persuaded to accept baptism and had already put one foot in the baptismal font, when he had second thoughts and asked Wulfram: “Will I join my ancestors in the hereafter?” Wulfram bluntly told him that this was out of the question, since his ancestors, having not been baptized, were all in Hell, while Redbad would join the ranks of the blessed in Heaven. Redbad then retracted his foot and declared that he would rather be with his ancestors in Hell than spend eternity in Heaven with a pack of saintly beggars. Soon after Redbad’s death, however, the Frisians were beaten and baptized, and no more was heard of their national independence.

    But a redactor made Jesus contradict himself by adding, “No one can come to the Father except through me” (14:6),

    Identification of the ‘redactor’ please? You ought to also provide the KJV version of John 14, rather than the more PC and/or evangelical version you quote. Here’s what the KJV says, which seems slightly less strict or whatever it’s called.

    14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.; 2 In my
    Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to
    prepare a place for you.; 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again,
    and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.; 4 And whither I go
    ye know, and the way ye know.; 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither
    thou goest; and how can we know the way?; 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the
    truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.;
    .

    “By me” is more open than ‘through me.’
    As re this, I call it an ‘aspirational goal’ but agree:

    Because it views salvation as an individual quest, the purification from personal sins, Christianity laid the foundation for modern Western individualism.[18]

    “Let the faithful remember,” imparted Paul VI in November 1964, “that true devotion does not consist in a sterile and ephemeral movement of sentimentality, any more than in vain credulity.” Well, I guess that excludes most modern Catholics too. 😉
    As re this:
    .

    Being a consistent Darwinian means believing that humans are purely material beings, random assemblages of self-replicating molecules, evolved from the single-cell bacteria by an indefinite series of chemical accidents. Besides, another indisputable “truth” of Darwinism, and its main message to the masses, is that our ancestors were African apes. .

    I agree, but the latter sentence somewhat conflates Darwin’s express ‘theory’, with all of the modern and PC pronouncements which followed it.

    Well done.
    R.C.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  61. Avianthro says:

    Just a couple of important points of correction:

    1) Evolutionary theory does not disconnect us from our ancestors at all, but shows us how we REALLY are PHYSICALLY connected to them via our genes. It is a scientific (experiment and observation based knowledge) foundation for our feeling of being connected with our ancestors, as opposed to a hocus-pocus, spiritual, faith-based one.

    2) Modern evolutionary theory is not at all about random mutations, not about Darwinism. Our advancement in evolutionary science over the past 50 years or so has shown evolution to be much more Lamarckian…See the field of epigenetics which also again affirms strongly our connection to our ancestors. That concept of pure Darwinism with random mutations and natural selection has been totally outmoded-proven wrong by experiments that have given us the basis for current modern evolutionary theory. A good book to get a simplified handle on the current theory of evolution is “Evolution 2.0″…It does a great, layman’s level, job of explaining how the current evolutionary biologist sees the “mechanics” by which life forms evolve and why Darwinism is a relic. Unfortunately, many of us who were schooled in biology back a generation or more ago just aren’t up to speed (and even perhaps most who were educated in this generation).

    So, some of this article’s arguments are non-existent straw men. The updated theory of evolution should make us feel very much connected to our ancestors, and even to the other life-forms with which we share the planet. A quote along that line from the Quran: https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=6&verse=38.

  62. SafeNow says:


    Chinese wedding tea ceremony. The bride and groom, on their knees, serve tea to the parents. A gesture of respect and honor. A very good thing.

  63. @Mevashir

    After I die go on to create my own planet and spirit children in a process of eternal glorious heavenly sex.”
    That sounds awesome.
    For a little background, Joseph Smith, the founder and leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was murdered along with his brother Hyrum when a mob breaks into a jail where they are being held on charges of treason and conspiracy brought on when a group of his fellow dissenting Latter-day Saints began publishing a newspaper with fake news critical of Smith’s leadership. Smith had the press destroyed and with the threat of violence, Smith called out a militia to protect him and his brother when Illinois authorities imprisoned Smith and brother Hyrum in a Carthage city jail where they were killed by a mob of vigilante thugs instigated on by his political opposition.
    Sound familiar?
    They did this to Jesus, and many other messengers throughout history.
    We all know who they are.
    Thanks for the suggestion that I become a Mormon. I must plan a trip to Utah soon and see if I can roundup a few potential wives to get the ball rolling.
    Cheers Mevashir,
    eternal glorious heavenly sex to you also.

    • LOL: Mevashir
    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Mevashir
  64. Liza says:
    @Jim H

    It’s not just the Corona 19 vaccine that’s phony – no vaccine ever immunized anyone. All innoculations just drive the disease deeper.

  65. E_Perez says:
    @Zachary Smith

    I’m not willing to wade though all the BS to try to sort them out. Another fellow whose articles I’ll try to remember to skip past in the future.

    Nobody is interested what you are “willing to wade through” nor do we want to know “which articles you skip in the future”.

    Step down your inflated ego and try to provide arguments, if you have some – not your “transparent nonsense”.

  66. Seraphim says:
    @R.C.

    One should always refer to the Greek text which is: δι’* ἐμοῦ.
    *dia: through, on account of, because of, through, throughout, by the instrumentality of, by reason of, for the sake of.
    Latin ”nemo venit ad Patrem nisi per me”; lat.per: through, by means of.
    The context is ”I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever… And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. 66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.” (John 6: 51-58; 65-68).
    The meaning is ‘through the mysteries/sacraments’ (Baptism, Anointing, Eucharist).
    St. Paul: ”For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on/clothe yourself with, ἐνεδύσασθε) Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Gal. 3:27-29).
    And: ”The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof” (Rom.13:12-14).
    Let Redbed enjoy his Valhöll if that was his choice. The ‘Heidevolk’, the ‘Ophidian Forest’ will keep a ‘Walhalla (funeral) Wacht’ for him. There will be plenty of beer also (goat piss).

  67. Seraphim says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    Please make sure that you stay in Utah and enjoy endless sex with your harem, but don’t go on a ‘Mormon missionary trip”. I had to kick out of my house many pestering ‘Elders’ and ‘Sisters’.

  68. there is absolutely nothing and i mean nothing about Christianity that demands one not embrace their ancestral history

    honor they father and they mother that they day be longer

    that does not require to worship them — in fact worship of one’s mother and father could lead one down some very peculiar paths, i.e following their footsteps to rape pillaging and burning . . .

    respect for one’s past biological and ethnic founders does not require worship.

    ————

    as for vietnam . . . ,

    oy veh, the only time they had territorial unity was figuring periods of occupation,. other than the boundaries that existed up the our support for a south vietnam were territorial boundaries of conflict.

    a unified harmonious vietnam — exists only in myth and even today — enforced communism holds the country together

    what is bailing out vietnam

    capital markets — no kidding

  69. Seraphim says:
    @Zachary Smith

    Laurent Guyénot graduated sometimes (presumably with the degree of BS) in the 90s from the ‘Unification Theological Seminary’ of the ‘Unification Church’ (the ‘Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity (HSA-UWC) founded in Seoul, South Korea by Sun Myung Moon. Its members are called ‘Unificationists’ or ‘Moonies’ (although more appropriate would be ‘Loonies’). Probably his thesis was a raving about the relations between Jesus and John the Baptist (‘A New Perspective on John the Baptist’s Failure to Support Jesus’).

  70. @Avianthro

    Please read carefully. Nowhere do I dismiss the concept of evolution. I have only attacked Darwinism (by which I mean the dogmatic synthetic theory, often called neo-Darwinism). I am always amazed that so many people read “evolution” when I write “Darwinism”. Darwinism is just one theory of evolution among many, the dominant one today but not the first one and not the last one.

    The updated theory of evolution should make us feel very much connected to our ancestors,

    That is what I argued in
    https://www.unz.com/article/blood-and-soul/

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  71. Kali says:

    Though I have read only a handful or two of your essays, and just a small part of your book, From Yaweh to Zion, Dr Guyenot, I’ve found all of them to be very helpful in my own understanding of the history and current trajectory of this untethered, horribly nihilistic world we share.

    I think this particular essay is the most helpful by far, and am very grateful for it, for more reasons than I can publicly express. Though I will privately express them to my own, scattared and atomised, family.

    May this essay be read far and wide!

    Many thanks,
    Kali.

  72. @Sarah

    French natives (White Europeans) have a fertility rate of about 1

    It’s lower than the 1.87 national average, but it’s not that much lower. I would bet that it’s at least 1.5. Any back-of-the-envelope calculations would say that it is very difficult for the non-white populations in France to have such a high fertility rate that they could raise the national average (assuming the country was still lily white) from 1.0 to 1.87.

    Also, if you look at the fertility of the various minorities in their own countries, yes, in Africa, it is still very high, but the fertility levels in the Arab countries tend to be in the 2.x sort of range nowadays and there isn’t much reason to think that the groups that emigrated from those countries have a much higher rate in France than in their countries of origin. (Probably quite the contrary.)

    It is true that if the fertility rate of the white Europeans stays below replacement level while that of the non-white people is above replacement level, then you eventually get a population replacement.

    That’s assuming that all trends remain in place over a long enough period. One thing I get out of looking at this data is that there is a general trend towards people having fewer children. It’s not just in the “white” countries. I was quite surprised to see that the fertility rate in Mexico is about 2.2, not much above replacement rate. Of course, that’s higher than white North Americans, but if somebody had asked me a couple of days ago to guess what it was, I would have bet 3 or something like that at least. The two most populous countries in the world are China and India. China is reported variously at 1.7 and 1.3. India is about 2.2. Well, I knew that China was low, but if somebody had asked me what the fertility rate in India was, I would have thought it was quite a bit higher.

  73. Robjil says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    At the conclusion of this book, it is over a 180 pages, President Xi said in 2019 that the Talmud was one of the “splendid achievements” of the peoples of Asia. He placed it in second place. Soon after this, in early 2020, Covid mania began in China. China got over this Covid mania. The rest of the “free” west continues on going to higher and higher levels of insanty with Covid mania.

    The Talmud is nothing about “Respect for all” or “Win-win”. It is the complete opposite of that. Xi may have said this about the Talmud to let the world know that China knows who is running a good part of the world now.
    https://icsum.org.my/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/IJCS-112-1Yitzhak-for-website.pdf

    A recent indication of China’s awareness, and appreciation, of the
    Judaic role not only in Chinese but in Asian (and world) civilization, is in

    PRC President Xi Jinping’s opening speech at the Conference on Dialogue of

    Asian Civilizations in Beijing on May 15, 2019: “In building our civilizations

    over the course of several millennia, we the people of Asia, have made

    splendid achievements. I think of literary classics such as The Book of Songs,

    The Analects of Confucius, The Talmud, One Thousand and One Nights, The

    Rigveda and Genji Monogatari (Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People’s

    Republic of China, 2019).”1

    Xi placed it in second place. Well, that is the way world is now. China is Win- Win. Talmud is We Win- You Loose. The world can not continue on with Talmud thinking running our planet. The author thinks it is “good” that Xi mentioned it and placed it in second. Xi could be just letting the Talmud lovers know that China knows what is happening to our planet in our time.

    It is expected that Xi would mention Chinese classics (the Book of Songs
    and Confucius’ Analects) at the top of Asian cultural achievements; it was not
    expected that he would mention the Jewish Talmud at the second place. Only
    then, he mentions Arab, Indian and Japanese contributions. If not Xi Jinping

    himself, someone else among the Chinese leadership, or intellectuals, must

    have proposed giving such a high prominence to Judaism. And, since little –

    or nothing – is coincidental in Chinese politics, this is significant.

    • Thanks: Mevashir
  74. Mevashir says:
    @CelestiaQuesta

    Actually I wrote: In fact spiritually exalted Mormons after they die go on to create their own planets and spirit children in a process of eternal glorious heavenly sex. I didn’t include myself in this group because, although I spent three years exploring the Mormon Faith in my community in Colorado (regarded as the third strongest Mormon community in America!) I concluded that Joseph Smith is more like Joseph’s Myth:

    [MORE]

    https://coldcasechristianity.com/?s=mormons
    https://coldcasechristianity.com/writings/investigating-the-evidence-for-mormonism-in-six-steps/

    They are a wonderful group of people and apparently they live ten years longer on average than other Americans due to abstaining from all the vices. But they are also extremely authoritarian and operate like a cult. If you are willing to suspend your disbelief and buy into the system, you will reap many earthly benefits.

    This is a Tabernacle Choir concert I have watched many times. I think it’s extraordinary:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdhiYv-rjy0&t=7s

    Very funny Book of Mormon musical plus spoof called Book of Purim:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKkLV1zE8M0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qozz7aIE64

    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  75. Who do we have worth venerating? The boomers?!? I’m going further back to George Washington for protection and guidance.

  76. Che Guava says:

    A very interesting essay. When reading the early part. I wanted to comment on Ridley Scott’s depiction in Gladiator, pleased to see that you mentioned it.

    Catholicism in Japan has long been syncretic. Most Christians here are usually now heretical, JW seems the most popular, it is silly, but so energetic, and the dress sense is the same as all of the post, and in a few cases, pre-war Buddhist cults.

    Except for Aum Shinrikyou, the strangest of the ‘new religions’ is Mahakiri, I had the misfortune of being in their base town when they were having a festival, it was unfortunate for my pocket, the only room I could find was a double. expensive, but the hotel staff, seeing I didn’t have much idea, I asked why everywhere was booked out, told me it was a festival for Mahakari, saying it like a curse.

    The town is very interesting, on one side of the station, it is very beautiful, on the other side. site of the Mahikari centre, it is just ugly suburbia.

    I didn’t like not finding cheaper place to stay, but the place was occupied by (many western)devotees of that very strange cult.

    or to gender differences</

    Come on, gender is just a language term, do not surrender to the lies.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @Che Guava
  77. Mevashir says:
    @Che Guava

    Catholicism in Japan has long been syncretic. Most Christians here are usually now heretical, JW seems the most popular, it is silly, but so energetic, and the dress sense is the same as all of the post, and in a few cases, pre-war Buddhist cults.

    I have a Mormon friend with a Japanese wife. He told me that the Mormon church is very popular and very active in Japan. Have you seen evidence of this?

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  78. @Mevashir

    Personally I’m really not that interested in messiah cult religions, and I certainly would never bow at the alter of satanists, or sit in a synagogue of Satan.
    I seek to understand various spiritual and pagan rituals, gods, whatever they are called, those that were pushed aside, censored or banned by today’s popular religious cults.
    Humanity lost its way somewhere along the way and the time has come for a new age AI God to arrive and be the next big he/her/it/they/……..
    Who knows, we may be at the dawn of a new world order ruled by GlobalHomo, worshiping various gender deities 2SLGBBTQQIAPWXYZ+ – Two Spirit, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Beastiality, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual people, and Pedophiles. + added to cover the overlooked.

    It’s getting freaky out there.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  79. @Francis Miville

    Why do you say a worshipped person is enslaved?

    Do you have links to Romans intermarrying in Gaul? I know Salic Law codes mention Romans as a prevalent ethnic group in Gaul.

  80. Seraphim says:
    @Ann K

    One should remind people that in the Orthodox Church commemoration of the ancestors is a sacred obligation that no one can evade without losing face. One commemorates his own ancestors at every liturgy when offering the ‘doron’, holding panikhidas (parastasis) on the date of their death and in addition there are numerous days specially dedicated to commemoration of all the dead during the liturgical year (in Romania they are called the “Moși” – moş meaning the grand-parent).
    But even the Catholic Church has an ‘All Souls’ Day’, the ‘Commemoration of All the Faithful Departed’ or the ‘Day of the Dead’ (November 2), the day after All-Saints Day.

    • Thanks: Che Guava
  81. MMC says:

    I am Catholic because my father is Catholic. He is Catholic because his father was Catholic. I am Catholic because my mother is Catholic. She is Catholic because her father was Catholic. I am Catholic because my ancestors were all Catholic. I honor my mother and father as the commandments tell me to and I venerate my ancestors along with the communion of saints. We are coming up on the “Toussaints” or All Saints Day on Nov. 1, when we will go to our ancestors grave sites and honor them.

    The problem with the Neo-pagans is they blame everything on Christianity and attack it from all angles even when they contradict each other. They blame the fall of Rome on it’s conversion to Christianity and credit the Enlightenment for the West’s greatest achievements. Okay, fair enough. But if that is the case don’t blame Christianity for our current problems. Our contemporary degradation is marked by our civilization’s turn away from Christianity, not it’s embrace.

    We live in dark times and it is easy to give in to pessimistic attitudes. But we cannot change our past. We must embrace our ancestors and their traditions and yes, also their spirituality.

    I am not saying you should be a Catholic or some type of Christian. But in my case I am Catholic whether I like it or not, and there is enough there for me to find spiritual satisfaction.

    • Agree: Seraphim
    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  82. Ridley Scott made a worthy effort to incorporate Roman ancestor worship in his epic film Gladiator (2000).

    Perhaps the Romans had some kind of ancestor worship, but it was not portrayed that way in the film Gladiator. If you pay close attention, the small clay effigies of a woman and a boy that were venerated by the Roman General, Maximus (Russell Crowe) were clearly intended to represent his wife and son who waited for him back in Spain and who were subsequently killed on the orders of the evil emperor Commodus. This is reinforced by subsequent dialog in the film, and in fact, the images of the woman and the boy at the beginning and the end of the film create a kind of parenthesis, and the film itself, an inclusion within them, as Maximus, mortally wounded at the end, opens the door and strides into the fields of Elysium, where his wife and son wait for him. The clay figures unambiguously represented his family, and absolutely not his ancestors. So, I guess, that’s Hollywood ancestor worship for you. Whether or not that is a worthy effort is clearly in the eye of the beholder. Pretty confident I’m right, I just watched the movie again.

  83. @Laurent Guyénot

    As with Marx, I doubt that Darwin was a ‘Darwinist’. Huxley et al made it a cult, after Darwin was gone. Beware The Disciples!

    • Agree: Laurent Guyénot
  84. @Avianthro

    Better not be too hard on Darwin. He knew nought of genetics, let alone epigenetics. The fossil record was tiny in those days, too, and he had but one true colleague, Wallace. Wallace, as I discover, an early opponent of forced vaccinationand the medical Mafias pushing it. The more things change…..

  85. Seraphim says:
    @Alan Orsborn

    If one wants to know anything about Roman history, culture and civilization, the first thing to do is NOT to watch any Hollywood rendition of it. In a not so distant past, school children were still learning that the Romans were venerating the ‘Lares’ and ‘Penates’, the ‘spirits of the dead who had become divine, guarding homes, crossroads, and the city’. Every Roman family had its own guardian, known as the ‘Lar familiaris’, to protect the household and ensure that the family line did not die out. Each morning Romans prayed and made offerings to an image of the ‘Lar familiaris’ kept in a family shrine. Deities known as ‘Lares compitales’, who guarded crossroads and neighborhoods, were honored four times a year in a festival called the Compitalia. Another group of deities, the Lares praestites, served as the guardians of the city of Rome.
    I am not joking, these things were taught in elementary school, when schools were still teaching serious stuff and not ‘gender studies’. Everyone would be better advised to save the money they squander to fill the pockets of Hollywood producers of crap, for a trip to Italy (if only to visit the ‘Museo della Civiltà Romana’ in Rome – and Rome, of course). Or, they can visit the Metropolitan Museum in New York, its free.

    • Thanks: Liza
  86. @Alan Orsborn

    That’s true, but if you pay close attention, Maximus does address his ancestors, or at least his father and mother. I would have to watch again to check, but that’s how I remember it. He added his wife and son in the altar, but it is clearly an ancestor altar. If you read Marcus Aurelius’s short book (forgot the standard title), you will see that he also emphasizes gratitude toward the parents and ancestors, and I suppose that Scott has studied all that. Besides, I used Gladiator just as an illustration, I’m not stupid enough to use it as an argument.

    • Replies: @Alan Orsborn
  87. @MMC

    we cannot change our past. We must embrace our ancestors and their traditions and yes, also their spirituality.

    I fully agree, but, as you must know, the Catholicism of your parents is gone, it is not embraced by the Church itself.

    in my case I am Catholic whether I like it or not, and there is enough there for me to find spiritual satisfaction.

    Good for you, and are you confident your children will embrace your Catholicism too? I am concerned about future generations.

    • Replies: @MMC
  88. MMC says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    I feel a great affinity towards you Laurent and I wish we could discuss a lot of these things in person. Many of the things you say I am very sympathetic with and I believe we have a lot in common. Perhaps we have the same ancestors. I grew up in the U.S. but my mother is from a small village in Bretagne. My father was from a small village in the west of Cuba. Catholicism was very important to the both of them and it’s roots ran very deep in both of their families. The spirituality of my father in particular impressed me very much. I would watch him pray at mass and was filled with a great awe. My mother too was always very devoted. It is true that the hierarchy of the Church is completely corrupt and does not believe in anything. But this is the norm for everything today. Whenever I am in Bretagne in the summers we still go to the Pardons. Of course they have been greatly diminished, but the spirit is still there. Anyways, keep up the good work and GOD BLESS!

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
  89. @Laurent Guyénot

    You are right, Maximus addresses his father and his mother before the effigies of his wife and son and the other statues. As an illustration it works, and really that’s about all we can ask of Hollywood. I only pointed it out because the first time I watched it I didn’t closely notice the two effigies and the role they play in the film.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  90. ‘I am not saying you should be a Catholic or some type of Christian. But in my case I am Catholic whether I like it or not, and there is enough there for me to find spiritual satisfaction.’

    you are catholic by choice, you are christian by choice

    you don’t choose your biology — but adopts their culture in the end by choice

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  91. Seraphim says:
    @Alan Orsborn

    It is peculiar, to say the lest, that Mr. Guyenot who praises Marcus Aurelius’ ‘short book’ can’t remember its ‘standard’ title!
    For your information, the original title of this work, if it had one, is unknown. The standard titles under which it was circulated are ‘Meditations’ and, because it was written in Greek, Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόν,  ’Things to one’s self’).
    No wonder that Mr. Guyenot admires Marcus Aurelius. He was a despiser and persecutor of Christians.

  92. @EliteCommInc.

    correction you don’t choose your biology — but one adopts their culture in the end by choice, one has a belief system they choose — even if they are born surrounded by the same, it may be hard, but change and even outright rejection is possible

    and depending on how one understand honoring one’s heritage -nonbiological- honoring one’s family, national or ethnic lineage is possible

  93. @Kevin Barrett

    Islam transfers the tribalism from the blood to the spiritual sphere but it remains “tribal” nevertheless i.e. your are in the inside or very much something inferior outside hence the repulsive and disgusting acts perpetrated by Muslims seemingly ever day but largely suppressed by the satanic western media. You of course, like the proverbial true Scotsman, know better than your brethren.

  94. Che Guava says:
    @Mevashir

    Very active, true, one will see their missionaries in various places, out-of-the way rural towns, iural-urban fringe of big cities. Even such encounters are not at all common.

    I used to just be impolite to them, but will converse a little and give advice when they don’t know a place in recent years.

    The last pair I met (3 or so years ago)said they are not interested in converting people here now, only in collectiog information for their genealogical database.

    I have never met a Mormon here except the foreign missionaries, never seen a Mormon place of worship, and, as I started the reply at a branch of the most Japanese burger chain, MOS Burger, explained your question to a waitress, and asked her if she had ever heard of Mormonism (morumon-kyou). She said no.

    I can assure you that your friend is deluded.

    A rough ranking of Christian sects and heresies,

    1. Roman Catholic
    2. United protestants
    3. Korean permanent resident Lutherans
    4. Orthodox
    5. JWs

    I suspect that 5 may be more popular than 4, a friend was or is JW, but Mormonism is not in the picture at all. Maybe some people like filling out the genealogy forms, so Mormons declare the ancestors to be Mormon. From my reading, that is part of their idea.

  95. Che Guava says:
    @Che Guava

    Replying to self because, thanks to eyesight and auto-completion, I was mis-spelling several times.

    The strangest cult since Aum Shinrikyou, with many western followers, is Mahikari, ‘the pure flame’, I know how to write it in Japanese 真光 or english, but mis-spelt several times in Roman letters. They, as far as I can see, are stupid but harmless, still worth avoiding.

  96. A great book of historical anthropology on the Aryans—Indo-Europeans, if you prefer

    Indo-Europeans? Aryans? Well, Indians are not Europeans, nor Indo-Europeans; nor all of them call themselves Aryans; they are just a big mixture of almost all known races, but mostly black. Their ancestry includes a smattering of Steppe Indo-Europeans, that is all. The word “Aryan” comes from Sanskrit, no doubt, but that is it. Indians are, on an average, 70% Black. In fact, Europeans are racially more closer to Ashkenazi Jews than to Indians.

    And in India, in spite of its overwhelming black genes, Blackness is despised, even though the southern Black States are doing a lot better than the northern “White” / “Indo-European” / “Aryan” States. The only difference is that Swastika is still worshipped, and the term “Aryan” does not have bad connotations (except in the very deep South, where it is equated with Brahmin settlers; but even South Indian Brahmins are also dark-skinned).

    If you still count Indians as Indo-Europeans, you are welcome.

  97. Seraphim says:

    You are not a fool. Fools are the ones who let themselves be fooled by the Gobineau/Chamberlain/Madison Grant/KKK/Aryan Nations dreams of the blue eyed, blond ‘Great Race’ (called deceptively the ‘White Nation’). Quite paradoxically, white skinned people with dark eyes and black hair (Chinese, Gruzins, Irish, ‘Dinaric-Alpins’, Iranians – the only real ‘Aryans’-) are not classified as ‘Whites’.

  98. Anonymous[360] • Disclaimer says:

    Another deep analysis by Laurent Guyenot. Thank you very much!
    I agree to the idea. The Whites, the Europeans (or Catholic, Orthodox Christians and Anglicans) were strong before the Vatican II and the following revolutions, because their acknowledged only the useful
    teachings of their religion.
    In my view however the author seems to know the history of Germanic and Celtic nations only and ignores the Italians or the Poles, two Catholic nations (of Roman, the first, and of Slavonic, the latter, origins) that venerate or honour, each in a different way, their ancestors, their family, their kin, their nation.
    The Italians traditionally respect the elderly, live together with them in one house or take care of them, if not. They visit often the graves of their grand and great-grandparents.
    For the Poles the mostly felt and attended holiday of all is All Saints and All Souls (the All Saints, being an official holiday, half-replaced the All Souls Day). On these two days Poland’s cemeteries are overcrowded and the glow caused by grave candles is long seen over the cemeteries from a far distance.
    This is why these two European nations, which also are especially bound to their history, traditions and culture, have the best chance to survive.

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
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