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I was fortunate enough to be in Afghanistan in November of 1978, six months after a progressive socialist government came to power. I travelled from the city of Peshawar in Pakistan through the Khyber Pass to Kabul. I then spent a couple of weeks in the city and the surrounding rural area. At that time I was on a sabbatical leave as a professor from the University of Winnipeg. Prior to this, I had been in Asia for 7 months on an agricultural research project, conducting documentary case studies of farms — 70 studies in 12 countries, starting in Japan and ending with 4 farms in Afghanistan.

What I find astounding is that the Western media never mention that for a brief period of time Afghanistan once had a progressive secular government, with broad popular support.

This government had enacted progressive reforms and gave equal rights to women. It was in the process of dragging the country into the 20th century. In fact, British political scientist Fred Halliday stated in May 1979 that probably more had changed in the countryside over the previous year than in the two centuries since the state was established. Indeed, it would now be the type of government that most people in Afghanistan and the West would probably welcome. What happened to this government?

Long before the Soviet Union entered the scene, this government was undermined by the actions of the USA. It was the USA’s Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA, that created the mujahideen, which triggered a series of tragic events that destroyed the country. Following this, the US military invaded Afghanistan in October 2001 and stayed there for the next 20 years, pulling out just a few weeks ago. So in effect, it was the USA that created the present chaos and tragedy in Afghanistan.

Although the Afghan government in 1978 had come to power by means of revolution, surprisingly, it was a peaceful time, and I received full cooperation from government authorities and the Faculty of Agriculture at Kabul University. While at the University, the Dean and a number of professors briefed me on Afghanistan’s history, its economic conditions, and the causes of the revolution.

I still recall vividly that when I entered the Dean’s office, he was sitting at his desk, nicely dressed in a suit and tie. I began by telling him that I was on an agricultural research project in Asia but just as I left Canada at the beginning of May, I had heard that a few days before, there was a revolution in Afghanistan. And because of that I was wondering if I’d be able to do any research in the country. He pushed back his chair, and in flawless English with a British accent he said, “Revolution … just a day and a half, you know, April 27 and 28. I was there much of the time … I saw most of it … I’ll tell you about it. But first let me order some tea and I’ll get some faculty members to join us.”

For the next hour or more, he related what happened. According to the Dean and the professors, the bulk of Afghanistan’s people in the 1970s were farmers, but the landholding system hadn’t changed much since the feudal period. They told me that more than three-quarters of the land was owned by landlords and mullahs who composed only 3 percent of the rural population. Peasants who had owned land and homes lost both to landlords and mullahs because they were unable repay their loans, so now they worked the land as sharecroppers . . . land that was once their own.

The landlord or the mullah, in the less fertile areas, took two-thirds of the crop, and in the fertile plains, he’d take four-fifths. In either case, the sharecropper was left with just barely enough grain to feed his family. Partly because of these terrible rural conditions, the king was finally deposed in 1973. But no land reform came about, and the new government was autocratic, corrupt, unpopular.

Then on April 27, 1978, in the wake a huge demonstration in front of the presidential palace, the army came to the support of the people and after a brief battle with the presidential guard, the government was deposed. The military officers then released the jailed leftist and Marxist leaders and invited their party, the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA), to form the government under the leadership of Noor Mohammad Taraki, a writer and poet. The military supported them because they were the only ones who had a program for land reform and progressive social and economic reforms.

As the Dean put it, after the government was deposed and leftist leaders were released from the nearby prison, the officers brought Taraki to the open space in front of the presidential palace. There was a tank in this open space in front of the crowd. After the officers talked to Taraki, they helped him to get on the tank, he then looked around and said, “All right, with your help, we will form the government.” Hearing this, there was a loud cheer and applause from the crowd.

So, this is how a leftist or socialist government came into office — it was a totally indigenous happening — not even the CIA blamed the USSR for this. In fact, President Jimmy Carter’s secretary of state, Cyrus Vance, later wrote in his memoirs: “We had no evidence of any Soviet complicity in the coup.” Actually, the Soviets were much surprised at what happened. This new government immediately began to bring in much needed reforms.

The Taraki government’s first course of action was to declare non-alignment in foreign affairs and to affirm a commitment to Islam within a secular state. Among the much-needed reforms, women were given equal rights, girls were to go to school and be in the same classroom as boys. Child marriages and feudal dowry payments were banned. Labour unions were legalized, and equality of the nationalities was proclaimed. And very importantly, about 10,000 people were released from prisons. Within a short time, hundreds of schools and medical clinics were built in the countryside.

A major reform occurred on September 1, 1978. It was the abolition of all debts owed by farmers — landlords and moneylenders had charged about 25 percent interest. Following this, a program was being developed for major land reform, and it was expected that all farm families (including landlords!) would be given the equivalent of equal amounts of land.[1]All these reforms and government measures were explained to me at considerable length by the Dean of Agriculture and some of the professors during a lengthy session at Kabul University.

Part of the Taraki administration’s land reform was an attack on the opium-growing feudal estates. Taraki went to the UN, where he requested and received loans for crop substitution for the poppy fields.

Through Kabul University I conducted my research project with the assistance of an agriculture professor. I spent more than a week in the countryside and talked with many farmers. The farmers produced a variety of food crops and livestock, and Afghanistan was basically self-sufficient in food production. Raisins were an important export crop.

Because the farmers had much to gain from the reforms, most were extremely pleased with the new government. I heard tearful tales of how the farmers had lost their land because of inability to repay loans. In this manner almost half of the country’s farmers wound up with their houses on land that became the property of landlords. Also many of these people had debts that were inherited from their fathers and grandfathers, and they had never expected to repay them.

Several of them told me that the law abolishing these debts was like a gift from heaven. I recall how one of them clasped his hands together and with tears in his eyes he told me how he had lost his home and his land…. and now he had all this back.

Later, in talks with shopkeepers in Kabul, I discovered that they too were pleased. One of them told me that he wasn’t quite sure how the government leaders could be Marxist and Muslim, but they hadn’t interfered with their religion, and because the farmers now had money, business was increasing and they had no complaints.

From what I could see, life was peaceful and there were few police and soldiers on the scene — and women were free to dress as they wished. I have a slide of a street scene showing a woman in a burqa, another woman in a western style dress, a man in a business suit, another in casual clothes, and one in traditional robes and the distinctive Afghan turban. Such cosmopolitan scenes were quite typical.

Street scene in Kabul, November 1978. During the Marxist Taraki period, women were free to dress as they wished with no restrictions. Photo by John Ryan
Street scene in Kabul, November 1978. During the Marxist Taraki period, women were free to dress as they wished with no restrictions. Photo by John Ryan

The new government was faced with a variety of major problems. In the 1970s, life expectancy was 35; 1-in-3 children died in infancy, the highest in the world. Ninety percent of the population was illiterate. These were issues that the new government was determined to deal with.

Without question, this appeared to be a genuinely popular government and people seemed to look forward to the future. In short order, the Taraki government invited Soviet contractors and engineers to build roads, schools and hospitals …. with funds provided by the USSR. Soviet geologists discovered vast quantities of lithium and minerals in Afghanistan; vital resources which the government intended to exploit in the interests of the entire nation.

A dynamic medical doctor, Anahita Ratebzad, was appointed minister for Education in the Taraki government. Since the overthrow of this progressive government, Ratebzad’s role has virtually been erased from Afghanistan’s history. In one of her most famous editorials for the New Kabul Times she wrote:

Privileges which women, by right, must have are equal education, job security, health services, and free time to rear a healthy generation for building the future of the country … Educating and enlightening women is now the subject of close government attention.

Women played a key role in the Taraki government; the gains had no precedent. About half of Kabul’s university students were women during the 1980s and women made up 40 percent of Afghanistan’s doctors, 70 percent of its teachers and 30 percent of its civil servants. Thousands of women enrolled in the armed forces and there were 7 women in parliament. Young female students roamed the streets of Kabul in denim flairs and t-shirts, dating men of their own choice. Many people spoke of a golden era.

The radical changes that occurred remain vivid in the memories of those who benefited. Saira Noorani, a female surgeon who fled Afghanistan in 2001, recalled:

“Every girl could go to high school and university. We could go where we wanted and wear what we liked … We used to go to cafes and the cinema to see the latest Indian films on a Friday … it all started to go wrong when the mujahedin started winning … these were the people the West supported.”

Women at university in Afghanistan in the late 1970s. (Amnesty International U.K.)
Women at university in Afghanistan in the late 1970s. (Amnesty International U.K.)

Admittedly, the issue of women’s rights and education for girls was controversial, and fundamentalist mullahs (clerics) conducted campaigns against this. It’s very important to point out that many of the 250,000 mullahs were landlords and they vehemently opposed the proposed land reforms.

In their sermons in mosques, they urged the Afghan people to oppose the government’s plans because according to them it was only Allah who could grant land to them, and also that Allah would object to giving women equal rights or having girls go to school. But despite their pleadings, the reforms were popular in the general population. And because of this, these reactionary elements left for Pakistan, as so-called, “refugees.” These were the people who not only opposed land reform but all the other social and economic reforms as well.

But…behind these mullahs, there was a much more powerful opponent to the Afghan government — it was the USA. Although having no right to interfere in another country’s affairs, the USA viewed the new government as being Marxist and was determined to subvert it. On July 3, 1979, unknown to the American people and Congress, President Carter authorized a \$500 million “covert action” program to overthrow Afghanistan’s first secular, progressive government. This was code-named by the CIA “Operation Cyclone.” Immediately after this, the CIA, along with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, began to provide military aid and training to Muslim extremists who became known as the mujahideen and “freedom fighters.”

And to make the USA’s determination crystal clear, noted journalist John Pilger stated that

“In August 1979, the U.S. embassy in Kabul reported that ‘the United States’ larger interests … would be served by the demise of the PDPA government, despite whatever setbacks this might mean for future social and economic reforms in Afghanistan.’ . . . It is not often that such cynical intent is spelt out as clearly. The U.S. was saying that a genuinely progressive Afghan government and the rights of Afghan women could go to hell. . . Recruited from all over the Muslim world, America’s secret army was trained in camps in Pakistan run by Pakistani intelligence, the CIA and Britain’s MI6.”

In addition to this, alienated Afghan mullahs and landlords along with Muslin fanatics migrated to Pakistan where, through the efforts of the CIA, they were given arms and training to subvert the Afghanistan government. After getting military training and guns in Pakistan, and together with fanatic Muslims recruited by the CIA, they proceeded to conduct raids on the Afghan countryside where they burned clinics and schools, and if they found teachers teaching girls, they would kill the teachers, often disembowelling them in the presence of the children – to instill fear and panic in the population.

Another aspect of the US counter-revolution strategy involves a man named Hafizullah Amin. During the 1960s while studying at Stanford University, he appears to have been recruited by the CIA, and came back to Afghanistan, pretending he was a hard-line Marxist. Through him the CIA infiltrated the Taraki government. This has never been officially acknowledged, but there is substantial evidence to support this.[2]“How the CIA turns foreign students into traitors,”Ramparts (San Francisco), April 1967, pp. 23-24; Phillip Bonosky, Washington’s Secret War Against Afghanistan, New York: International Publishers, 1985, pp.33-34; The Truth About Afghanistan: Documents, Facts, Eyewitness Reports, Moscow: Novosti Press Agency Publishing House, 1980, pp. 83-96; Washington Post, December 23, 1979, p. A8. His actions while in office reflect exactly what a CIA agent would have been expected to do. He cleverly worked his way to the top – first becoming defence minister and later the prime minister. In September of 1979 he carried out a coup, took over the government, had Taraki killed, and many of Taraki’s loyal supporters were then killed, jailed, or exiled.

Amin then proceeded to undermine and discredit the Marxist government. He enacted draconian laws against the Muslim clergy, to purposefully further alienate them. Many of Taraki’s progressive reforms were halted and thousands of people were jailed. Senior army officers were demoted, jailed or killed, and in that way he weakened the Afghan army.

In the meantime, the CIA’s trained and armed mujahideen came in by the thousands to attack parts of the country, especially to destroy health clinics and schools and kill teachers.

In a matter of three months, with the combined actions of the mujahideen and the counterproductive policies of Amin, the socialist progressive government was almost destroyed. It’s a matter of record that during this time Amin held numerous meetings with the American charge d’affaires and other US officials.[3]William Blum,Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II, Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1995, p. 343. He also sent emissaries to hold secret meetings with the top mujahideen leader in Pakistan, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.[4]Phillip Bonosky,Washington’s Secret War Against Afghanistan, New York: International Publishers, 1985, pp. 33-34 Apparently Amin had laid plans for a further coup d’état to eliminate all progressive elements in the government and then join forces with the mujahideen – to form a fundamentalist Islamic state, with himself as president and Hekmatyar as prime minister.[5]The Truth About Afghanistan: Documents, Facts, Eyewitness Reports,Moscow: Novosti Press Agency Publishing House, 1980, pp. 91-92.

But, near the end of December in 1979, Amin was overthrown and killed either by a regiment of the Afghan army that still had Taraki supporters or by Soviet soldiers – the truth still being difficult to establish. The USSR always denied having anything to do with this. The fact is that some Soviet troops had been in Afghanistan since December 8, at the Afghan government’s invitation.[6]Washington Post, December 23, 1979, p.A8. Soviet troops had started arriving in Afghanistan on December 8, to which the article states: “There was no charge [by the State Department] that the Soviets had invaded Afghanistan, since the troops apparently were invited.”

With the overthrow of Amin, there was great jubilation and about 10,000 political prisoners were released, and when Babrak Karmal became president (after being in exile in Czechoslovakia), he would have been hailed as a hero, if he had come in on his own. What soured the situation is the entry of Soviet troops.

Shortly before Taraki’s murder, he had been on a trip to Moscow where he pleaded with the Soviets to send some troops to Afghanistan to help its government deal with the insurrection. And so on the basis of this invitation as well as from the terms of a 1978 Afghan-Soviet treaty, the USSR sent in their troops. Their purpose was to ward off the thousands of well-armed mujahideen invaders, many being foreign mercenaries.

What’s not widely known is that the USA through the CIA had been actively involved in Afghan affairs for at least a year before this, and so it was in response to this that the Soviets arrived on the scene.

Sending in troops to Afghanistan was a colossal blunder on the part of the Soviet Union. If they had simply provided weapons for the Afghan government’s forces, they may have survived the “barbarians at the gates” – because ordinary Afghan people were not fanatics and most of them supported the government’s progressive reforms.

The advent of Soviet troops on Afghan soil tragically set the stage for the eventual destruction of the country. Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter’s National Security Advisor, afterwards bragged that he had convinced Carter to authorize the CIA to set a trap for the Russian bear and to give the USSR the taste of a Vietnam war.[7]“How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen”: Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p.76. Brzezinski saw this as a golden opportunity to fire up the zeal of the most reactionary Muslim fanatics — to have them declare a jihad (holy war) “on the atheist infidels who defiled Afghan soil” — and to not only expel them but to pursue them and “liberate” the Muslim-majority areas of the USSR. And for the next 10 years, with an expenditure of billions of dollars from the USA and Saudi Arabia, and with the recruitment of thousands of non-Afghan Muslims into the jihad (including Osama bin Laden), this army of religious zealots laid waste to the land and people of Afghanistan.

Central Asia specialist Ahmed Rashid wrote[8]Ahmed Rashid, “The Taliban: Exporting Extremism,”Foreign Affairs, November-December 1999.:

“With the active encouragement of the CIA and Pakistan’s ISI [Inter-Services Intelligence] who wanted to turn the Afghan jihad into a global war, waged by all Muslim states against the Soviet Union, some 35,000 Muslim radicals, from 40 Islamic countries joined Afghanistan’s fight between 1982-1992. Tens of thousands more came to study in Pakistani madrasahs. Eventually more than 100,000 foreign Muslim radicals were directly influenced by the Afghan jihad.”

It should be understood that Afghan people don’t have a history of being religious zealots. To create the CIA-desired jihad required the recruitment of Arab, Egyptian, and Pakistani extremists – so the fundamentalism that emerged in Afghanistan is a CIA creation. Although Reagan referred to the mujahideen as “freedom fighters,” they committed horrific atrocities and were terrorists of the first order.

As reported in the Washington Post (May 11, 1979, p.12), a “favourite tactic” of the mujahedeen was “to torture victims [often Russians] by first cutting off their noses, ears, and genitals, then removing one slice of skin after another,” leading to “a slow, very painful death.” The article describes Russian prisoners caged like animals and “living lives of indescribable horror.” Another publication[9]John Fullerton,The Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan, (London), 1984 cites a journalist from the Far Eastern Economic Review reporting that “one [Soviet] group was killed, skinned and hung up in a butcher’s shop.” reported that “one [Soviet] group was killed, skinned and hung up in a butcher’s shop”.

Despite these graphic reports, President Reagan continued to refer to the mujahedeen as “freedom fighters” and in 1985 he invited a group of them to Washington where he entertained them in the Whitehouse. Afterwards, while introducing them to the media, he stated, “These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s founding fathers.”

Ronald Reagan meets Afghan Mujahideen Commanders at the White House in 1985 (Reagan Archives)
Ronald Reagan meets Afghan Mujahideen Commanders at the White House in 1985 (Reagan Archives)

Surely Soviet soldiers were every bit as human as American soldiers – just suppose it had been American soldiers who had been skinned alive. Would President Reagan in such an instance still refer to the mujahideen as “freedom fighters” . . . or might he then call them terrorists, just as the Soviets had done? Indeed…how these actions are portrayed depends on whose ox is gored.

The cynicism of arming and funding the mujahideen against the Soviets exposes the lie of America’s humanitarian concerns in Afghanistan. It was basically the CIA that created the mujahideen whose purpose was to try to overthrow the Afghan Marxist government and thereby lure in the USSR. As the US expected, the Soviets eventually sent in an army to fight the mujahideen. During the ensuing 10-year conflict, it’s estimated that between a half million to a million Afghan civilians were killed, along with 90,000 mujahideen fighters, 18,000 Afghan government troops, and 14,500 Soviet soldiers.

But it seems that in America’s eyes, these deaths, along with the destruction of Afghanistan, were “worth it” to cripple the Soviets. When later confronted with these facts, Brzezinski, President Carter’s advisor, had no regrets.

The Soviets succumbed to their Vietnam and withdrew their troops in February of 1989, but the war raged on. Somehow it is generally thought that the Afghan socialist government collapsed as soon as the Soviets left, but that’s not true. Seeing the viciousness of the mujahideen, a large portion of the Afghan population, especially the women, supported the quite moderate government, later under Mohammad Najibullah, and without a single Soviet soldier on their territory, they fought on for another three years. In fact, their government outlasted the USSR itself, which collapsed in December of 1991.

The crucial factor that undermined the Afghan government was the treachery of Americans. The Soviets agreed to pull out their troops, but it was on the understanding that both the USSR and the USA would stop all military and economic aid to Afghanistan. The Soviets honoured the agreement, but the USA, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia violated the agreement and continued to support the mujahideen.

Seeing that the US did not honour their agreement, the Soviets should have provided the Afghan government with some economic and military aid. They then might have withstood the mujahideen attacks.[11]“When the U.S. committed \$43 million in aid to Afghanistan in May 2001, it brought the total of U.S. aid to the country that year alone to \$124 million,” cited in article by Joseph Farah, “Murray pushed for aid to Taliban before to 9/11,”com, December 26, 2002. As it was, because of the unending supply of superior American weapons and no economic assistance, the Marxist government was finally defeated in April of 1992.

The victorious mujahideen, first of all, slaughtered the members of the previous secular government and thousands of progressive-minded people. Then for the next four years they fought amongst themselves. The mujahideen consisted of at least seven warring factions, all battling for territory and control of the opium trade. In the course of these battles, they conducted looting and rape campaigns. The dreadful mujahideen infighting finally ended in September 1996 when their forces were routed from Kabul by new combatants on the scene, the Taliban.

When in 1992 the mujahideen took Kabul, Dr. Najibullah, the last progressive president,found refuge in the United Nations compound where he lived until 1996. On September 27 the Taliban took Najibullah from his refuge, castrated him, dragged him behind a car over Kabul streets, finished him with a gunshot and hung his body from a traffic post.

During these years of civil war, Kabul was almost totally destroyed, as were many other cities — with the greatest damage occurring after the Marxist defeat during the fratricidal conflict. The landlords came back immediately after the mujahideen victory.

The Taliban were determined to bring about a peaceful state of affairs. They vowed to unify the country under Islamic law and to end the corruption and insecurity under the rule of the warlords and mujahideen. They found support, especially in poor, rural areas that had suffered most from the bloodletting.

So, who were these Taliban? It is often mentioned that they emerged from religious schools in Pakistan. It’s important to know their background. Interestingly, it’s the CIA that created them.

The CIA recruited Wahhabi missionaries from Saudi Arabia to go to Pakistan and later to Afghanistan to set up Sunni Islamic fundamentalist religious schools, madrassas. The CIA and their agents then recruited young Afghans to go to these schools where they became brainwashed religious fanatics. The word Taliban means “students in an Islamic school.”From Pakistan the madrassas moved to Afghanistan and during the 1980s their number increased to about 40,000. These schools were essentially CIA covert psychological operations, whose purpose was to inspire divisiveness and opposition to the Marxist Afghan government.

Through these covert CIA machinations, the US essentially destroyed secular education in Afghanistan. In the course of this,

“The United States spent millions of dollars to supply Afghan schoolchildren with textbooks filled with violent images and militant Islamic teachings…. The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then as the Afghan school system’s core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books … Published in the dominant Afghan languages of Dari and Pashtun, the textbooks were developed in the early 1980s under an AID grant to the University of Nebraska -Omaha and its Center for Afghanistan Studies. The agency spent \$ 51 million on the university’s education programs in Afghanistan from 1984 to 1994.” (Washington Post, 23 March 2002)

Although the Taliban ended the civil war, unfortunately, with them on the scene a virtual war was declared on women. The Taliban were religious fanatics and they somehow accepted a perverted religious view in regard to women, which in actuality has no basis in Islamic law. Thousands of women were dismissed from their jobs as teachers, doctors, professors, and work of all kinds. They were then not allowed to participate in the work force or even have doctors treat them (without a male relative present), and girls were forbidden to go to school. Terror, in all its forms, became the basis of the regime — it became a regime of fascist Muslims, but it was a regime that was initially kept in power largely by Pakistan.

Despite the atrocities of the Taliban regime, they initially had support in the Clinton administration because it was thought that the Taliban would bring in “stability” which would enable the construction of oil and natural gas pipelines through the country. Moreover, the later Bush administration provided \$124 million in aid to Afghanistan and continued pipeline talks almost until the fateful September 11.[11]“When the U.S. committed \$43 million in aid to Afghanistan in May 2001, it brought the total of U.S. aid to the country that year alone to \$124 million,” cited in article by Joseph Farah, “Murray pushed for aid to Taliban before to 9/11,”com, December 26, 2002.

As for the mujahideen that this conflict created, they took on a life of their own, and spread throughout the Muslim world. One of the key players in the anti-Soviet, U.S.-led regime change project was Osama bin Laden, a Saudi-born millionaire who came from a wealthy, powerful family and had close ties to the Saudi royal family. He was brought to Afghanistan to organize recruitment for the mujahideen and is believed to have received security training from the CIA. In 1989, the same year that Soviet troops withdrew, Osama bin Laden founded the terrorist organization Al Qaeda. Ironically, after grooming him for their purposes, the USA would eventually turn bin Laden into a scapegoat after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

If we are to learn anything from the Afghanistan tragedy, it is important to understand that if the USA had left the Marxist Taraki government alone, there would have been no army of mujahideen, no Soviet intervention, no war that destroyed Afghanistan, no Osama bin Laden, and perhaps no September 11 tragedy in the USA.

But what about the events after September 11, 2001? After the trauma of the 9/11 assault, what should have been the rational response? Clearly, this was a criminal act, but it was not an act of war by some foreign government. If the US had any evidence linking Osama bin Laden or anyone else to this, they should have taken the necessary steps to have these people brought to the International Criminal Court to be tried as criminals. Instead, the US immediately demanded that the Taliban government surrender Osama bin Laden to them.

In response, the Taliban offered to turn him over to an international tribunal, but only after seeing evidence of his guilt in 9/11.[12]“Taliban repeats call for negotiations,”com, October 2, 2001, includes the comment: “Afghanistan’s ruling Taliban repeated its demand for evidence before it would hand over suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Ladin.”; Noam Chomsky, “The War on Afghanistan,” Znet, December 30, 2001. The US refused to do this, and the actual reason surfaced when it was revealed that Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI, had made the astounding statement that “. . . the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.”[13]Ed Haas, “FBI says, it has ‘No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11’,”Muckraker Report, June 6, 2006.

So what was the war on Afghanistan all about if, years later, the USA still didn’t have proof connecting bin Laden to 9/11? This is an astonishing revelation, but the mainstream media never reported this.

To counter the USA’s accusation that he was responsible for the 9/11 attacks, bin Laden stated repeatedly — on September 12, 16, 17, and 28 — that he had had nothing to do with the attacks. In the September 28 statement, he had even declared:

“I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. . . . [W]e are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed.”

It’s obvious that the FBI accepted this because they never retracted their position that they had any hard evidence connecting bin Laden with 9//1. In fact, this was on the FBI website right up until after May 2, 2011, when bin Laden was supposedly killed by a US military assault in Pakistan. But there are serious questions even about this as well, since there is some evidence that bin Laden had actually died of kidney failure some years before. See here, here, here. This issue deserves further analysis, but not within this article.

In rare unanimity, a number of Afghan groups pleaded with the US government not to bomb or invade the country. Noam Chomsky cites the New York Times as reporting that this was “a rare display of unity among tribal elders, Islamic scholars, fractious politicians, and former guerrilla commanders”[14]Noam Chomsky, “The War on Afghanistan,”Znet, December 30, 2001. They unanimously “urged the US to stop the air raids . . . and the bombing of innocent people” and pleaded with the US to adopt other means to overthrow the Taliban.[15]Barry Bearak, “Leaders of the Old Afghanistan Prepare for the New,”NYT, October 25, 2001; John Thornhill and Farhan Bokhari, “Traditional leaders call for peace jihad,” FT, October 25, 2001; “Afghan peace assembly call,” FT, October 26, 2001; John Burns, “Afghan Gathering in Pakistan Backs Future Role for King,” NYT, October 26, 2001; Indira Laskhmanan, “1,000 Afghan leaders discuss a new regime, BG, October 25, 26, 2001; Noam Chomsky, op. cit.

They pointed out that the Taliban who ran the country consisted of a small and closed group and without constant assistance from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia the central leadership could be undermined – and once they’d lose the support of their gun-toting rank and file, the regime could be easily overthrown. So if the Americans wanted a regime change, the Afghan people themselves were fully prepared to do it. All the US had to do was to put pressure on Pakistan and Saudi Arabia to stop their support of the Taliban.

Never mentioned officially, but aside from the “official” 9/11 reason for attacking Afghanistan, there was an undisclosed reason. It appears that one of the key strategic objectives of the 2001 war on Afghanistan was to restore the opium trade following the Taliban government’s successful 2000-2001 drug eradication program which led to a 94% collapse in opium production. This program had been supported by the United Nations.

UN data (1994-2014)
UN data (1994-2014)

As a result of the war launched by the USA in Afghanistan, many thousands of Afghan people were killed – all being just as innocent as the people in New York – the difference being that Afghans continued to be killed for next 20 years.

So where do we now stand? It should be obvious that the 9/11 attacks were the work of an organization far more powerful and professionally skilled than a rag-tag band of nineteen random Arabs armed with box-cutters. As such, who attacked the USA on September 11, 2001?

Strange as it may seem, even 20 years later, it’s still not known who was responsible for it. At first it appeared that the plot was hatched in Hamburg, Germany by an Al-Qaeda group, hence this had nothing to do with Afghanistan. Over the years, several reputable reports have shown that there is substantial evidence that it was Mossad and Israel that were somehow implicated in order for the US to take a more aggressive stance towards Muslim countries. This is still an ongoing issue, since a major investigative report appeared a few days ago, September 10, “implicating Israel and its Mossad intelligence service, with the case being overwhelmingly strong in motive, means, and opportunity. But leveling accusations of blame at Israel and its domestic collaborators for the greatest attack ever launched against America on our own soil entails enormous social and political risks.” Other reports on this issue are here, here, here, here, here, here, here and there are others in addition.

9/11 and the American War

A month after 9/11, the US launched its war on Afghanistan. Not having approval of the United Nations, this was an illegal war. But this was never reported in the mainstream media, so few people were aware of this fact.

The bombing began on October 7th. The published images of the war were shocking in the violence they portrayed. Many people in Europe were appalled by the scale of the bombing against a defenceless population, and the utter disregard for Afghan lives. But in the United States that autumn, the mixture of vengeance and patriotism meant dissenting voices were rare and scarcely heard.

At first the attack was by bomber planes and then US soldiers came in. The Taliban realized it was hopeless for them to resist, so they just abandoned Kabul and fled into the countryside. However, the US did have the support of the forces of the Northern Alliance, a coalition of non-Pushtun warlords in the north of the country.

Initially, there was not much fighting. Taliban leaders and their supporters went home to their villages or into exile in Pakistan.

For two years there was no resistance to the American occupation. None, in any village or city. The reason is that most ordinary people, even in the Taliban heartland in the south, dared to hope that the American occupation would bring Afghanistan peace and develop the economy to end the terrible poverty.

Peace was crucial. By 2001 Afghans had been trapped in various wars for twenty-three years. By 2001 even Taliban supporters felt a bad peace was better than a good war.

All this was the basis for a possible good ending to the US invasion, but the US fouled this up. Instead of accepting this peaceful state of affairs, the US in a grossly misguided fashion, decided that its mission was to root out any remaining “bad characters.” Night raids crashed through doors, humiliating and terrifying families, taking men away to be horribly tortured for information about any opposition to the US-installed government. At the slightest excuse, the Americans called in airstrikes and their bombs killed family after family. And so war returned across the south and east of the country.

No one was ever held to account for the American torture regime in Afghanistan. The U.S. launched more than 13,000 drone strikes in Afghanistan between 2015 and 2020, killing up to 10,000 people. The CIA, relying on cellphone numbers, often launched its Hellfire missiles at the wrong targets or at targets standing amid groups of civilians.

This practice has devastated Afghan villages, yet the U.S. refused to keep track of civilian casualties from drone strikes. Overall, the American occupation had been unbearably cruel and corrupt. In this manner the US totally discredited itself in the eyes of most Afghan people. And so it was time for the US to go.

In the course of all this, there is an important issue that must still be dealt with, and that is the matter of Afghan opium poppy farming. Soon after the Taliban took control of Afghanistan this past August, their spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said: “When we were in power before there was no production of drugs. . . we will bring opium cultivation to zero again.”

This was verified by a UN report in May 2001 which “observed the near total success of the ban in eliminating poppy cultivation in Taliban controlled areas”. However, immediately following the US invasion and takeover of the country, poppy production resumed with considerable vigour for the next 20 years. In fact, the area under opium poppy cultivation increased from 163,000 hectares in 2019 to 224,000 hectares in 2020 – an increase of 37%. Over the years, Afghanistan has been responsible for more than 80% of global opium production, as illustrated in this UN diagram:

At present, heroin made from opium grown in Afghanistan makes up 95% of the market in Europe. However, only 1% of the US supply of heroin comes from Afghanistan, according to the US Drug Enforcement Agency. Most comes from Mexico. As for Afghanistan, in 2018 the UNODC estimated opium production contributed up to 11% of the country’s economy.

Although never discussed in the mainstream media, arguments have been advanced that one of the key strategic objectives of the 2001 war on Afghanistan was to reopen the opium trade following the Taliban government’s successful 2000-2001 drug eradication program. Immediately following the US October 2001 invasion, opium markets were restored and opium prices spiraled. By early 2002, the opium price (in dollars/kg) was almost 10 times higher than in 2000.

The resumption of opium trade provided a vital source of finance for the CIA and other US intelligence agencies. As put forward by journalist Finian Cunningham, “The big advantage from drug business is that the finances are off the books, and therefore not subject to Congressional oversight. That “dark” source of income allows American agencies to fund covert operations without ever being held to account.”

To add to this, Russia’s presidential envoy to Afghanistan, Zamir Kabulov, is quoted as saying that CIA complicity in drug trafficking is “an open secret” in the country. “US intelligence officers… are involved in drug trafficking. Their planes from Kandahar, from Bagram [airfield near Kabul] are flying wherever they want to – to Germany, to Romania – without any inspections.”

During the USSR’s engagement in Afghanistan, both the CIA and the mujahideen rebels were deeply involved in the opium trade. Over the years the CIA was paying \$3.2 billion a year in their role in the Afghan war, and part of this was financed by the drug trade.

With so many factors at play, US involvement in Afghanistan became an archetypal quagmire. America’s declared strategic objectives in Afghanistan have never been coherent or convincing even to some top government officials. The initial justification of “avenging terrorism of 9/11” now sounds threadbare.

Afghanistan is known as the “Graveyard of Empires” where the British suffered a blow to their imperial prowess, where the Soviets failed in their attempt to salvage a progressive government, and now the defeat of the Americans after their senseless 20-year war.

During this past 20-year period, 775,000 American soldiers served in Afghanistan. Of these, it is reported that 2,442 were killed and 20,666 were injured. In addition, 1,144 other NATO soldiers were killed. Afghan military and police had about 70,000 killed. The report also states that about 50,000 Taliban fighters were killed. Overall, about 240,000 people have been killed in the Afghanistan and Pakistan war zone since 2001. As such, the majority of those killed were civilians.

Even in the absence of fighting, unexploded ordnance from this war and landmines from previous wars continue to kill, injure, and maim civilians. It remains to be seen if the Americans will have the decency to try to remove these deadly remains of their war.

Initially, after the US invasion, Afghans had hoped for development that could lift both the rich and the poor. But when American money poured into Afghanistan, it went the people in the new government headed by Hamid Karzai. It went to the people working with the Americans and the occupying troops of other nations. And it went to the warlords and their entourages who were deeply involved in the international opium and heroin trade facilitated by the CIA and the Pakistani military. None of this money got to ordinary Afghan people.

Afghans had long been used to corruption, but as time went by the scale of this US-dominated period was unprecedented. In the eyes of the poor and middle-income people, all the obscene new wealth, was obvious corruption. In light of all this, the Taliban decided that they had no recourse but to get rid of the Americans.

A further indication of corruption and neglect for the overall population is that the number of Afghans reporting that they were struggling to live on their current income increased from 60% in 2008 to 90% by 2018. A 2018 Gallup poll found the lowest levels of self-reported “well-being” that Gallup has ever recorded anywhere in the world. Afghans not only reported record levels of misery but also unprecedented hopelessness about their future.

Over the last decade the Taliban have offered two things across the country. The first is that they are not corrupt, and people could see this.

Second, the Taliban have run an honest judicial system in the rural areas they have controlled. Their reputation is so high that many people involved in civil lawsuits in the cities have agreed that both parties will go to Taliban judges in the countryside. This allows them swift, cheap and fair justice without massive bribes. Because the justice was fair, both parties can live with it.

Because of these issues, the Taliban gradually acquired genuine support in a large part of the Afghan population. The Taliban have learned and changed. The Taliban have realized that Pushtun chauvinism was a great weakness. They now emphasize that they are Muslims, brothers to all other Muslims, and they now have the support of Muslims of many ethnic groups.

The new Taliban have also emphasized their concerns for the rights of women. They say they welcome music, and videos, and have moderated the puritanical sides of their former rule. And they are now saying over and over again that they want to rule in peace, without revenge on the people of the old order. However, there is still a minority who do not go along with this. But that’s only to be expected in such a wide range of people in the country.

The Taliban, who banned the internet the first time they controlled Afghanistan, have turned social media into a powerful tool to tame opposition and broadcast their messages. Ironically, the images of peace and stability projected by the Taliban contrasted sharply with the scenes broadcast around the world of the chaotic American evacuation from the Kabul airport.

In one video, a Taliban official reassured female health workers that they could keep their jobs. In another, militants told Sikhs, a minority religious group, that they were free and protected. And wherever they were, they provided a sense of law and order.

Overall, this is a turning point in world history. The greatest military power in the world has been defeated by the people of a small, desperately poor country. As such, this will weaken the power of the American empire all over the world.

This is a military and political victory for the Taliban. It is a military victory because the Taliban have won the war. Over the last ten years the Taliban took control of more and more villages and towns. This is also a political victory for the Taliban. No guerilla insurgency on earth can win such victories without popular support.

The Taliban of 2001 were overwhelmingly Pushtuns, and their politics was Pushtun chauvinist. In 2021 Taliban fighters of many ethnicities have taken power in Uzbek and Tajik dominated areas.

Of course, not all Afghans have chosen to side with the Taliban. This was a war against foreign invaders, but it is also a civil war. Many have fought for the Americans and the American installed government or the warlords. And many others are not sure which side to take and are waiting with different mixtures of fear and hope to see what would happen.

In time it became obvious that the Taliban were the only important political organization fighting the American occupation, and most Afghans have come to hate that occupation.

In conclusion, what is it that has happened during this past month of August? If those so-called ‘good Afghans’ who were nurtured by US forces truly represented Afghan society, why did their army of 300,000 men drop their weapons and desert or flee the country, along with their President, without a serious fight? And if the 75,000 poorly-armed and, at times, malnourished Taliban seemed to merely represent themselves, why did they manage to defeat formidable enemies in a matter of days?

Ironically, four US administrations spent at least \$2.26 trillion fighting the Afghan war which included \$88 billion arming and supplying a military that, in the end, disintegrated and “disappeared.”

From what we now see, there is no question that the Taliban have acquired support from the Afghan people in most sections of the country. They could not have won this brutal war without substantial grassroots support.

On September 9, a Taliban spokesman announced the composition of their new caretaker government. He provided the names of the 33 acting cabinet ministers. He stressed that this new cabinet is just an “acting” government. This implies one of the next big steps will be to set up a new constitution. Also, that eventually the government will include people from all parts of the country and implied that women and Shi’ites will be included.

The acting government that was announced will consist of an all-male, overwhelmingly Pashtun cabinet essentially of the Taliban old guard. It includes only one Uzbek and one Tajik. All 33 appointees are Taliban members .

This announcement was met with some consternation in the USA because a number of the appointees have been listed as terrorists, including the acting Prime Minister, Mohammad Hasan Akhund.

The Taliban’s government is a caretaker one, and the militants may very well hold free and fair elections and then install an inclusive government.

It’s too early to tell how the new Taliban will function with all the problems they will encounter. But they are now a much wiser, more traveled, social media-savvy Taliban. They seem to be fully aware they cannot allow themselves to repeat the mistakes of their early years. Also, they’ve already established good relations with China, Russia and Iran, with the possibility of getting economic help from them.

John Ryan, Ph.D., Retired Professor of Geography and Senior Scholar, University of Winnipeg, Canada.

Notes

[1] All these reforms and government measures were explained to me at considerable length by the Dean of Agriculture and some of the professors during a lengthy session at Kabul University.

[2] “How the CIA turns foreign students into traitors,”Ramparts (San Francisco), April 1967, pp. 23-24; Phillip Bonosky, Washington’s Secret War Against Afghanistan, New York: International Publishers, 1985, pp.33-34; The Truth About Afghanistan: Documents, Facts, Eyewitness Reports, Moscow: Novosti Press Agency Publishing House, 1980, pp. 83-96; Washington Post, December 23, 1979, p. A8.

[3] William Blum,Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II, Monroe, Maine: Common Courage Press, 1995, p. 343.

[4] Phillip Bonosky,Washington’s Secret War Against Afghanistan, New York: International Publishers, 1985, pp. 33-34

[5] The Truth About Afghanistan: Documents, Facts, Eyewitness Reports,Moscow: Novosti Press Agency Publishing House, 1980, pp. 91-92.

[6] Washington Post, December 23, 1979, p.A8. Soviet troops had started arriving in Afghanistan on December 8, to which the article states: “There was no charge [by the State Department] that the Soviets had invaded Afghanistan, since the troops apparently were invited.”

[7] “How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen”: Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p.76.

[8] Ahmed Rashid, “The Taliban: Exporting Extremism,”Foreign Affairs, November-December 1999.

[9] John Fullerton,The Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan, (London), 1984 cites a journalist from the Far Eastern Economic Review reporting that “one [Soviet] group was killed, skinned and hung up in a butcher’s shop.”

[10] Zayar, “Afghanistan, Bin Laden and the hypocrisy of American imperialism,”In Defence of Marxism, September 26, 2001.

[11] “When the U.S. committed \$43 million in aid to Afghanistan in May 2001, it brought the total of U.S. aid to the country that year alone to \$124 million,” cited in article by Joseph Farah, “Murray pushed for aid to Taliban before to 9/11,”com, December 26, 2002.

[12] “Taliban repeats call for negotiations,”com, October 2, 2001, includes the comment: “Afghanistan’s ruling Taliban repeated its demand for evidence before it would hand over suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Ladin.”; Noam Chomsky, “The War on Afghanistan,” Znet, December 30, 2001.

[13] Ed Haas, “FBI says, it has ‘No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11’,”Muckraker Report, June 6, 2006.

[14] Noam Chomsky, “The War on Afghanistan,”Znet, December 30, 2001.

[15] Barry Bearak, “Leaders of the Old Afghanistan Prepare for the New,”NYT, October 25, 2001; John Thornhill and Farhan Bokhari, “Traditional leaders call for peace jihad,” FT, October 25, 2001; “Afghan peace assembly call,” FT, October 26, 2001; John Burns, “Afghan Gathering in Pakistan Backs Future Role for King,” NYT, October 26, 2001; Indira Laskhmanan, “1,000 Afghan leaders discuss a new regime, BG, October 25, 26, 2001; Noam Chomsky, op. cit.

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  1. – The liberal use of “fascist” (for the Taliban! Holy Saint Gambrinus.) is a giveaway.

    The Natzees made land reform (“Reichserbhofgesetz“) front and center of the National Uprising (as the German Navy had done first thing in Tsingtao), to the point that farmers old enough still sing their praises. The picture of the US that emerges is one of walking around the world and dispensing feudalism and corruption with a garden hose – provided the (((“US/international/mobile”))) capital get their cut. (the contrast to the official rhetoric is downright humorous 😀 )

    – The Taliban´s one and only selling point is they are not corrupt; if a few (female) eggs (or skulls) have to be broken, so be it – if left alone they will become mellower all by themselves.

  2. Sean says:

    It’s very important to point out that many of the 250,000 mullahs were landlords and they vehemently opposed the proposed land reforms.

    Good point.

    The Taliban of 2001 were overwhelmingly Pashtuns, and their politics was Pashtun chauvinist. In 2021 Taliban fighters of many ethnicities have taken power in Uzbek and Tajik dominated areas.

    Interesting, although the Pashtuns as the largest groups in the country are destined to rule.

    And for the next 10 years, with an expenditure of billions of dollars from the USA and Saudi Arabia, and with the recruitment of thousands of non-Afghan Muslims into the jihad (including Osama bin Laden), this army of religious zealots laid waste to the land and people of Afghanistan.

    Bin Laden did a very minimal amount of fighting against the Soviets, his reputation for being a successful Mujahidin was almost entity a fabrication of his old friend Jamal Khashoggi, who worked for Prince Turki (head of the Saudi Arabian secret service.

    President Carter authorized a \$500 million “covert action” program to overthrow Afghanistan’s first secular, progressive government. This was code-named by the CIA “Operation Cyclone.” Immediately after this, the CIA, along with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, began to provide military aid and training to Muslim extremists who became known as the mujahideen and “freedom fighters.”

    Pakistan had the greatest strategic interest in expelling the Soviets from Afghanistan. Most observer say Pakistani intelligence created the Taliban, even providing the name. And as late as 2011 the representative of the US joint chiefs testified to a Senate committer that the Taliban were a tool of Pakistani intelligence agency. Many Afghans believe that to this day

    .It’s too early to tell how the new Taliban will function with all the problems they will encounter. But they are now a much wiser, more traveled, social media-savvy Taliban. They seem to be fully aware they cannot allow themselves to repeat the mistakes of their early years. Also, they’ve already established good relations with China, Russia and Iran, with the possibility of getting economic help from them

    Don’t forget Pakistan, which also has an alliance with China by the way.

    • Replies: @ivan
    , @Old and Grumpy
  3. Anon[396] • Disclaimer says:

    Moreover, the later Bush administration provided \$124 million in aid to Afghanistan and continued pipeline talks almost until the fateful September 11.[11]

    IIRC the pipeline talks ended in June or July 2001 after failing to reach an agreement.

  4. The CIA introduced the ‘Stinger’ shoulder-launched missile to the jihadists to murder Russian airmen.

    During the early years after 2001 there were fears some Stingers were still around and would be used against US airships, but this turned out to be false. The blood-letting was all one way. ‘Projection’ explains the hoax of alleged bounties being offered by Russians for American lives in Afghanistan.

    The American empire’s immorality and lack of honor will be its doom and epitaph.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  5. Yee says:

    “It’s very important to point out that many of the 250,000 mullahs were landlords and they vehemently opposed the proposed land reforms.
    ……
    Because the farmers had much to gain from the reforms, most were extremely pleased with the new government.”

    It was the same in Tibet… While the mullahs went to Pakistan, the monks went to India, both received aid and training from CIA. And Westerns, not just governments but also proletariats, all side with the ruling class in exile…

    • Agree: nokangaroos
    • Replies: @ivan
  6. anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks for a very good antidote to the CIA Big Lie “Charlie Wilson’s War.” CIA didn’t drive the Russians out, CIA destroyed Afghanistan to draw the Russians in. Postwar history is the story of CIA fucking up the world for fun and profit. The article wisely makes little of the different presidential puppet rulers CIA used.

    What we need is Unz on a tank at the NHB and some DO knuckledraggers on hooks in the Harris Teeter meat department.

    • Agree: Alternate History
    • Replies: @dimples
  7. [The Taraki government] affirm[ed] a commitment to Islam within a secular state.

    Women were given equal rights, girls were to go to school and be in the same classroom as boys. Child marriages and feudal dowry payments were banned.

    Ah, so they lied!

    The Taliban are right: women belong in the home. There is no rational way to look at the US and other “Western” countries—where most every woman is an amateur whore, most marriages end in divorce and increasingly people don’t get married at all, and the fertility rate is far below replacement level—and argue feminism is a good thing. Feminism is the single worst weapon of (((the enemy))) against White Christian civilization. It’s even more noxious than mass non-White immigration and homosexualism.

    The US inadvertently did Afghanistan a favor by preventing it from becoming “Westernized”. “Westernization” is genocide, including for “Western” countries themselves, which once were called, and were at their core, Christian countries.

  8. Anon[886] • Disclaimer says:

    Destruction of the society Washington supposedly is saving is a feature not a bug. It’s the pattern everywhere Washington intervenes.

    • Agree: Justrambling
  9. dimples says:
    @anonymous

    What’s with all this “CIA” but not “the CIA”. Its extremely annoying. Does the CIA have control over English grammatical rules that only apply to it alone?? Do people refer to “Fed” instead of “the Fed”, and so on, not as far as I can see. What’s the biz with “CIA”? Is it some sort of secret handshake thing that reveals to those in the know that the writer is a secret agent? Please explain.

  10. @nokangaroos

    – The liberal use of “fascist” (for the Taliban! Holy Saint Gambrinus.) is a giveaway.

    Yeah, and I’m the only true fascist.

  11. @nokangaroos

    In the middle of Twentieth Century, in Muslim countries, there were three groups competing for power: the old feudal lords and princes, one; a new middle class wanting democracy, republic and such other fashionable political concepts of the day, two; and a reactionary class that wanted an Islamic government, but without feudal princes, three.

    America invariably never supported those who wanted democracy, republic, etc, purported to be the ideals upheld by Americans.

    “We are free, we are civilised, to little purpose, if we grudge to any portion of the human race an equal measure of freedom and civilisation.” – T.B. Macaulay

    • Replies: @Wyatt
  12. dimples says:
    @dimples

    Well I looked up why the CIA does not have the definite article and here is the, or an, answer:

    “I can’t really explain why the above has not been applied in Tom Clancy’s novel, except that the author is known for his high level of technical detail in his novels. It may be that referring to agencies in an abbreviated form is common within related government agencies. If that is the case, like a lot of terminology, the rules of grammar do not always strictly apply.”

    “It may be that referring to agencies in an abbreviated form is common within related government agencies. Pretty much this. Particularly in the US intelligence community, there are over a dozen members and it very quickly becomes annoying to say “the CIA thinks this; the FBI says that; while the NSA, the DIA, and the NRO feel otherwise.” The articles get dropped because everyone knows what you’re talking about. – pip install frisbee Feb 12 ’20 at 15:00″

    Thus if you use “CIA” instead of “the CIA”, then:

    1. you read too many Tom Clancy novels

    or

    2. you really are a secret agent.

  13. Ahmad Shah Massoud, commander of the Northern Alliance, an anti-Taliban coalition, is assassinated by al-Qaeda operatives. The killing of Massoud, a master of guerilla warfare known as the Lion of the Panjshir, deals a serious blow to the anti-Taliban resistance. Terrorism experts believe his assassination assured Osama bin Laden protection by the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks. Expert Peter Bergen later calls Massoud’s assassination “the curtain raiser for the attacks on New York City and Washington, DC.”

  14. ivan says:
    @Yee

    This is at least the second time you have made use of the “250,000 mullahs” in your talking points. They are “mullahs” in the same sense that every student in a Jesuit school is a “seminarian” or an acolyte in a yeshiva is a “rabbi”, or a Thai who goes to a monastery when he is 18+ as part of his national service is a “monk”. Given that the bloody Communists have a well known reputation for killing anyone who seriously believe in a God or gods and goddesses, those Tibetan “monks” had good reasons to flee the coming “dictatorship of the proletariat” directed by the Communists in Peking.

    The religious establishments were in many cases the only way to get an education, though very much slanted to studying religious texts. It doesn’t mean anything if they had 250,00 mullahs or 1,000,000.

  15. Thanks for a good overview of Afghanistan’s recent history.

    It can only be a good sign for the world in general that the judeo-zionist-masonic Mad Dog seems to be in decline, though Israel will continue to use it until wrung dry and ready to blow away as Bibi, one of their greatest allies, is reputed to have said.

    Btw Taliban are not Fascist.
    Here is an example of contemporary Fascism.

    https://www.oswaldmosley.com/

    • Agree: Irish Savant
  16. Sarah says:

    …it became a regime of fascist Muslims…

    Remove that word “fascist” from your article; it’s really almost like a musical discord.
    Using this word is anachronistic and improper.

  17. ivan says:
    @Sean

    Surely it was the fear that isolating Pakistan over 9/11 would push this nuclear-armed, clerico-fascist state, which is perpetually on the verge of collapse even further into the tender bosom of their “all-weather friend” – the term dates from the defeat that India suffered at the hands of the Chicoms in 1962 – that well known promoter of human rights and liberties abroad, Communist China, that drove at least part of the kid-glove treatment with which GWB handled Pakistan.

    Because they intend to exterminate any form of Uigyur nationalism, the Chicoms call themselves another of set of victims of Islamic fundamentalism. This however no makes no impression on the Taliban or their Islamic brethren in the Pakistani establishment, fixated as they are on the Hindu bogeyman in India.

    • Replies: @GomezAdddams
  18. ivan says:

    Even if they managed to get ben Laden, to sign in his own blood that al-Queda terrorists were behind the attack on the WTC, there would still be sufficient numbers in the peanut gallery that with one voice would declaim “the FBI has no firm evidence linking ben Laden to 9/11”. It was well-known that al-Queda was more of a franchise, a clearing house and a cockpit all rolled into one for carrying out the Islamic jihad through violence. Among the videos the Americans shared with the Singapore authorities were recordings of the Singapore transport system and such places, gathered no doubt by the few Malay recruits to al-Queda as part of scoping exercises to impress the renegade Arabs.

  19. It all started with Saudi Arabia oil wealth in the 60s and 70s, the pact between the house of Saud and the Wahhabis. Throughout the 60s and the 70s, Wahhabism spread like a wildfire in the Islam world and pretty much most of the Sunni Muslims went from liberal Islam to Wahhabi dogma.

    Being an ally of the US during the Cold War, the Saudis had tremendous influence in the world of Sunni Islam. Iraq, being Shia majority controlled by Saddam, a Sunni. Wahhabi schools popped up everywhere from Egypt to Malaysia and everything in between.

    Afghanistan is no different. And it has probably 2 billion barrels of oil untapped oil reserves which made it a strategic interest for the US and its allies.

    • Replies: @ivan
  20. ivan says:
    @Brian Damage

    It wasn’t so straightforward, the Saudis had a scare when rebels took over the Mecca mosque in 1978 or 1979, and externally the Iranian revolution put into place a Shia revolutionary government that was intent on exporting their brand of Islamic radicalism. The Saudis didn’t have much by way of rhetoric, so they exported their own troubles elsewhere by means of the Wahabbi mullahs. The Iranians on the other hand were focused on the Big and Little Satans, the US and Israel which even today they call the “Zionist entity”. The Iranians were intent on becoming supreme among the Muslims; either through proselytising in which they were not successful; the Sunnis regarding the Shias as renegades or through challenging Israel, in which they were slightly more successful. The Iranians had no bloody business in the Mediterranean, the Israelis figured their game very early on and thwarted these “justice warriors” at every turn. And now maybe the Iranians will cry for mother.

    The Iranians Revolution as it unfolded externally, more or less mirrored the earlier Russian Revolution: Assassinations, million-man marches, paranoid delusions that they are the victims and such like.

    But it is all likely to be water under the bridge, as both of Iranians and Saudis run out of money.

  21. Sarah says:
    @Ray Caruso

    The Taliban are right: women belong in the home. There is no rational way to look at the US and other “Western” countries—where most every woman is an amateur whore, most marriages end in divorce and increasingly people don’t get married at all, and the fertility rate is far below replacement level—and argue feminism is a good thing.

    Certainly off topic but I think there is a middle way for a woman between doing long studies, Bachelor and more then a so called “career” in a company, and motherhood with a part time paid job in parallel and once she can’t have children anymore.

    On topic: US, hammering the world with the MSM and their so-called “social” media, and their so-called “values” overthrowing a modern regime by an obscurantist dictatorship totally opposed to these so-called “values”.

  22. saggy says: • Website

    Great article … but on the issue of the evidence against Bin Laden, there is this vid which looks legit to me … you can learn more about it here – https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=80327


    • Replies: @Metropole
  23. Wyatt says:
    @Old Brown Fool

    America invariably never supported those who wanted democracy, republic, etc, purported to be the ideals upheld by Americans.

    Purported is the key word. No informed American wants democracy for anyone, least of all themselves. Democracy is what the young people would call if they weren’t woke, “hella gay” and if America is any good measure, Republicanism gives way to Democracy and thus Republicanism is hella gay by the transitive property.

    Heinlein got it right. The only kind of political franchise one should get is from years of proving you’re neither stupid nor a fuckhead. Had we had a system where service was the only path to citizenship, we would have had a different set of problems than what we have now, but it wouldn’t be nearly as bad.

    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  24. Maddaugh says:
    @Ray Caruso

    The Taliban are right: women belong in the home. There is no rational way to look at the US and other “Western” countries—where most every woman is an amateur whore, most marriages end in divorce and increasingly people don’t get married at all, and the fertility rate is far below replacement level—and argue feminism is a good thing.

    You got that right ! When I look at work colleagues and acquaintances whose wives work because “they are their own woman” and all this nonsense, the kids are as confused as ever.

    Dad is working long hours and so is Mom determined to “break the glass ceiling and make it in the old boys club”. They have lots of toys, just about all bought on credit but the kids are left on their own and to their own devices during the marriage and after Mom or Dad splits the scene. Some of these female climbers are “smart” but once you get talking to them on topics other than their high flying jobs, they come across as bubble heads.

    The majority (the women and kids) are as mixed up as mixed up can be. Women need to stay home and tend to the children as they did back when. I dont advise ANYONE to get married these days. Get a prenup, live together and have clear ownership of whatever assets are purchased and separate bank accounts. That way when the end comes, and it usually does after 3-4 years, one can pack up and fuck off without all the headaches of the legal system.

    A sad state of affairs but any other course usually ends in disaster.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  25. I don’t disagree. However I would like to point out that women of the lower 99% have always worked. Some worked with their husbands in family enterprises. Many were servants for the wealthy. Most seamstresses have always been women. As have been nurses and nurse maids. No one ever paid attention, especially the girls from affluent families. The working gals were merely the unseen help. Then come the rise of the professional middle class, and their daughters had nothing to do but have a hissy fits.

  26. “Overall, this is a turning point in world history. The greatest military power in the world has been defeated by the people of a small, desperately poor country. As such, this will weaken the power of the American empire all over the world.”

    I think much the same was said after US was defeated in Vietnam. Large vast empires have many tentacles. You can cut off one, but they continue pretty much unfazed. Roman and British empires took centuries to defeat. US was losing in Vietnam, but at the same time the CIA was overthrowing the “non-aligned” Sukarno in Indonesia and abetting in the murder of hundreds of thousands of Communist and pro-Sukarno Indonesians. You lose one. You win one.

    What would break the back of US empire would either be an internal uprising of some sort (perhaps in 10 or 20 years if economic situation continues to deteriorate) or succession of defeats around the globe. Taiwan goes. Azerbaijan is defeated by Iranians. Ukraine government falls and Russians regain control or sufficient influence. Muslim Brotherhood takes back power in Egypt. Western forces are defeated in Sahel.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  27. @Sean

    The Pakistani Awan brothers and their computer work for the Democrats was a saga barely reported by with the exception of Chuck Ross at the Daily Caller. We seem to have a strange untold relationship with Pakistan. Now we have learned our Joint Chief Commander is telephone buddies with his Chinese counterparts. No clue what any of this means except there is a stench with it all.

  28. @Ray Caruso

    Well, it didn’t take long at all for a misogynistic malcontent to show up – comment #7 in the thread.

    The much bigger issue, and it’s unsurprising that it doesn’t occur to you, is that far too many men are relics. They are stuck in old ways and thinking, have trouble evolving and are disinclined to celebrate the abilities or achievements of others. So, they simply whine, as you are. (If there’s anything utterly insufferable about many 21st century men, it is the infernal whining.)

    Simple solution: If more men would step-up to the plate of modern life many issues could be resolved.

    • Agree: Robert Bruce
    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  29. I’m no expert on Afghanistan but it seems highly unlikely that Hafizullah Amin was a willing CIA plant. In fact the commonest explanation for his demise is that he trusted the USSR too much, refusing to believe they were trying to overthrow him, right up until his death.

    Otherwise an excellent article. The same malign scenario of America and its satraps undermining unapproved governments has occurred all over the world before and since.

  30. @Maddaugh

    Nonsense. I shake my head as I witness, yet again – for the 1000th time, a guy superimpose how he imagine things to be and put it forth as fact. It’s some kind of bizarre birthright with you creatures. And like so often, it’s outright wrong or largely off-base.

    Let me put this forth straightaway – I regularly read Zerohedge and there are plenty of old-world relics on there who often whine about women and modern life. After years of periodically reading that tripe, I finally pose the question (and did so a few times, on different threads, over a couple months): Who of you, that have wives working outside the home, would prefer that she quit that job, forgo the income and stay at home? Every….single……time – the answer was crickets.

    Are you kidding? They LOVE that she is also bringing home the bacon AND handling more of the home and family work than he is. You want to know one of the reasons that so many divorces occur? Just re-read the prior sentence. Re-read it a third time – let it register.

    Time for everybody to just grow-up. Be adults and figure-out their lives with basic reasoning and a sense of reality and fairness.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Mr Gen
    , @RadicalCenter
  31. HT says:

    Radical Islam is to the Middle East as cultural Marxism is to America. Both designed to destroy the existing sane cultures and turn them into insanity. Seems to be working.

    • Agree: Iris
    • Replies: @hanad
  32. Treg says:

    I do not believe that the FBI has ANY hard OR SOFT evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.

  33. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    What I find astounding is that the Western media never mention

    The MSM work hand-in-glove with the government to hype the public, selling whatever war is being pushed for. It’s all very selective and no one in America knows much about Afghanistan except what they’ve been spoon-fed by the media. It started with trying to get Osama and since he’s been officially dead for ten years now it morphed into fighting for women’s rights there, a neat switcheroo.
    Brzezinski claimed the Muslim areas of the USSR were their soft underbelly and so creating conflict and stirring up Islamic radicalism was an American policy, something which has created all sorts of blowback.
    Assange has observed that the point wasn’t to win but to keep it going as a racket to recycle money from the US population upwards to the connected war profiteers. Trillions let out in contracts yet Afghanistan has hardly anything to show for it. An income transfer scheme which has lasted twenty years. Lots of prosthetic limbs issued, though.

    • Agree: CelestiaQuesta
  34. If ever a factual history is written, it will consist of a separate lengthy book describing in detail what a despicable and dangerous threat USA is for the common good of humanity.
    When did a constitutional government turn on its people and allow tech giants, banking, drug and corporate cartels the right to determine what’s best for Americans? Last I heard President Trump, the most famous person in the world, is still censored, banned and silenced by globalist (((PIGs and BIGs))).

    I’m calling on all American patriots to join together as one people and March on DC next January 6th, 2022 and show the illegitimate Biden Regime and their GlobalHomo/CRT/BLM alphabets what a real insurrection looks like.

    This time bring your guns. We are at war.

  35. @anonymous

    The MIC War Machine Racket has been going on for over a hundred years. It continually snowballs by adding new partners in crime. With friends in higher places receiving a cut of the action, who cares about the safety and well being of the meek, weak and hard working whites, when you can import millions of cheap labor slaves to do the work government plantation slaves refuse to do.

  36. Corrupt says:

    “a progressive socialist government”

    “The military officers then released the jailed leftist and Marxist leaders”

    Marxists are NOT mild progressive socialists, and your attempt to paint the Afghan government as such only betrays your bias.

  37. @anonymous

    I agree with the majority of your comment but, have to take issue with this:

    Trillions let out in contracts yet Afghanistan has hardly anything to show for it.

    About 12 years ago, I was on a flight from ATL to PHL and my seat was right next to two soldiers. I knew it would be great flight because I had plenty of questions for them. As luck would have it, they had just flown in from Afghanistan for a two-week break and were headed home.

    One of the things they described (in addition to how unbelievably and unbearably hot it is there) is the enormous amount of infrastructure the USA has recently built in Afghanistan. Lots of roads, schools, hospitals, water treatment facilities, other utilities and more.

    It’s a different conversation about whether that is the right way to spend US taxpayer money but, a huge amount of useful infrastructure was built there.

  38. Liza says:
    @The Real World

    Nice that someone is saying these things. I imagine you’ll have to take some abuse in these parts, though.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  39. Mulegino1 says:

    There is no credible evidence connecting Bin Laden with 9/11 because he had nothing to do with those events.

    The man on the ridiculous “confession tape” looks more like Lamont Sanford than the real Osama Bin Laden, who, in his last authentic video appearance in October, 2001, looks pale, gaunt and appears to have a paralyzed left arm. He looked so ill on the tape that Dr. Sanjay Gupta remarked that he thought that Bin Laden was in the terminal stage of Marfan’s Syndrome.

    What happened in May of 2011 was the ending of the Bin Laden legend, not the killing of Bin Laden, who by most credible accounts, died in December of 2001.

    If the man at the compound in Abbottabad really was Osama, the alleged terror mastermind, it would have made absolutely zero sense to kill him, as his capture would have provided a gold mine of intelligence.

    There was no body, no authentic photographs (a fake composite and a reversed still from Blackhawk Down) of the body, and no burial at sea. Locals in Abbottabad denied that the man in the compound (where a helicopter exploded, killing all aboard) was Bin Laden. The whole thing was an incompetently crafted propaganda hoax fit only for low information infotainment proles.

    • Thanks: Iris, Robert Bruce
  40. More military misadventures always put in motion by our so called “intelligence” apparatus. Courtesy of the corp plutocracy & their marxist moron minion foot-soldiers the USA is circlin the drain. At this point WHO CARES!!??

  41. @Liza

    Thanks…

    LOL, I don’t care – bring it on. They are so clueless about the actual lives of women it tends to be easy to win any debate about the topic. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

    • Agree: Liza
  42. “Would President Reagan in such an instance still refer to the mujahideen as “freedom fighters” . . . or might he then call them terrorists, just as the Soviets had done?”

    Geriatric Reagan was of his head before getting shot and got even worse post shooting.

    • Replies: @Old Brown Fool
  43. Metropole says:
    @saggy

    Please see the following picture. It shows how the person in the video is an actor.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @saggy
  44. Metropole says:

    Osama didn’t die in the raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan. There are eye witness accounts on Pakistani TV channels saying that one helicopter that landed exploded, probably shot by security guards. There were dead bodies all over. The second one never landed and flew away.

    It was Osama’s family that were living there.

    The Pakistani military cooperated with the American drama to provide, what they may have thought to be, closure about the issue and to help Obama in his reelection campaign. They may have figured that the US will leave once they got Osama.

    The US helicopters that conducted the raid were shipped to Karachi port, from where they were transported to the flight location.

  45. All we need to know about the Afghans is that they are third-world savages. We need to leave them alone.
    We need to fix our own White countries so that the Jews will not be able to interfere with these third-world countries, and that the Jews will stop being able to import these, and other, savages to White countries.
    And then we need to DEPORT all of the third-world savages that the Jews have imported here since WWII that are within the borders of our White countries, and that includes our domestic Blacks. They are not working out or even coming close to assimilating to civilization. They had their chance.
    The Jews also have to go. They are nothing but destructive parasites.

    • Replies: @Olivier1973
  46. Mr Gen says:
    @The Real World

    Read it for a third time? Let me try…no it’s too hard…I just can’t.

    What a midwit sanctimonious twat you are. You really think that you defined modern gender dynamics all by yourself?

    Well done, have a gobstopper.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  47. dimples says:

    “Over the years, several reputable reports have shown that there is substantial evidence that it was Mossad and Israel that were somehow implicated in order for the US to take a more aggressive stance towards Muslim countries. This is still an ongoing issue, since a major investigative report appeared a few days ago, September 10, “implicating Israel and its Mossad intelligence service, with the case being overwhelmingly strong in motive, means, and opportunity. But leveling accusations of blame at Israel and its domestic collaborators for the greatest attack ever launched against America on our own soil entails enormous social and political risks.” Other reports on this issue are here, here, here, here, here, here, here and there are others in addition.”

    All of the reports that the author claims as implicating Israel/Mossad in 911 are from Unz.com! Although I’m sure Israel/Mossad were aware of the plot and were probably contractors, none of these reports provide any evidence at all of this except repetitive propaganda. I hope the rest of this article is not as bad.

  48. Metropole says:

    Here’s some food for thought.

    The question is why did the US invade Afghanistan? We know that it isn’t because of Osama Bin Laden, since we know that he had nothing to do with 9/11.

    In the 80’s the US may have baited the USSR to invade Afghanistan to bring them down. But why would they go to the trouble of invading it in 2001 when the USSR didn’t exist? One explanation is that it was to secure a position in the middle of Eurasia, and that is plausible. But then the US spent the next 20 years concentrating on the Middle East, not China or Russia. It means that the invasion of Afghanistan was related to the Middle East, not China or Russia.

    Here’s one explanation that most people many not know.

    In Islamic eschatology there is a prophecy that in the End Times an unstoppable army will come from Khorasan that will capture Jerusalem from the Antichrist, at a time when Jesus Christ will be present. Jesus will kill the Antichrist right at the location where the Tel Aviv airport stands today.

    Khorasan at the time of the Prophet was the area that today roughly constitutes Afghanistan. So the invasion may have something to do with thwarting prophecy. No matter how bizarre this may sound, the reality is that Evangelical Christians and Zionist planners know Islamic prophecies better than 99% of Muslims, and a lot of US policies regarding Israel are influenced by the Evangelicals.

  49. Zorost says:

    Now that we’ve left Afghanistan, how is the CIA going to export that opium!?

    • Replies: @Mr Gen
  50. Never mentioned officially, but aside from the “official” 9/11 reason for attacking Afghanistan,

    The decision to invade Afghanistan was taken before 911.

  51. @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    “All we need to know about the Afghans is that they are third-world savages.”

    They were made “savages” by the yankees, no doubt.

  52. Mr Gen says:
    @Zorost

    Taliban get the country and the billions of military equipment, and the billions in aid – with a few conditions: 1.) The spice must flow, 2.) Destablise Iran.

    They really do think that we are idiots. As a whole people are not stupid, but they are wilfully naive. They happily look at the misdirection instead of the magic trick as if they are watching Penn and Teller.

  53. @Wyatt

    we would have had a different set of problems than what we have now, but it wouldn’t be nearly as bad.

    Exactly. But the trouble is, if a country has chosen that path, that different set of problems would look insurmountable, and that set may not be as bad, but those people would not know that and they would pine for Universal Franchise! Just like people wishing they had married someone else instead – in the long run, it does not matter who you are married to, because your true nature would assert itself, and you would have behaved with your alternative-timeline spouse the same way you are behaving with your current one (of course the consequences would be very different, but your behaviour would be the same)

  54. @dimples

    An Asianism that is gaining currency – because the English-as-the-second-language Asian speakers treat abbreviations as a name, and do not add the article. Many times they try to pronounce it instead of spelling it.

  55. @A Half Naked Fakir

    No, that shooting brought him back to his senses, and he behaved himself, and let the CIA run its agenda without hindrance.

  56. @The Real World

    If there’s anything utterly insufferable about many 21st century men, it is the infernal whining.

    Your entire comment is itself whining. The difference is that while I denounce an ideology that has objectively destroyed civilization, you mewl about me not celebrating the “achievements of others”. I’m happy to celebrate the achievements of others, such as those of present-day China or, indeed, those of our Taliban friends, but first there have to be achievements. Feminism has none to its name, unless by “achievements” you mean lionizing and enriching some Jewish gorgons.

    Your solution to the ills of the world: a trite sports metaphor. That being a vague conceit, I’m not sure what you mean when you say men should “step-up [sic] to the plate of modern life”. I can code, which is pretty modern, but I suspect you mean something more ideological, like embracing the very ideologies that have ruined our country and made all of our personal lives worse.

    In any case, it’s too late. The rot is too entrenched. The US is a crumbling dystopia. It will fall, and when it falls, all aspects of liberal ideology will fall with it, including feminism. With any luck, we won’t have to wait long.

    Regardless of your biological gender, you’re a cunt. So my advice is, get some real world skills, like making sandwiches and handling a thread and needle.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  57. One-off says:

    Excellent summary, and despite some obvious bias, largely accurate as far as I know.

    The aforementioned bias may have caused the omission of a major reason the average Afghan went from opponent of the Taliban to at a minimum acceptance: Wokeness in all its depravity was found more repellent than Islamism. This strange and foreign religious fanaticism was disliked. Afghans had warned State for years that LGBTQ promotion, to cite one example, was outrageous to their countrymen and not acceptable. But the West’s new religious fanatics discounted what they were told. The fact that bacha bazi flourished once again after the United States chased out the Taliban was a frequent complaint

    Again, great work despite that major omission.

  58. hanad says:
    @HT

    and both have the same backers you know who they are

  59. @Mr Gen

    LOL, thank you, Mr Gen!

    It sincerely makes my day when a triggered schlub shows up and utterly proves my point. Bada bing…

    • Replies: @Mr Gen
  60. barr says:

    A man who should have been awarded Nobel prize in economics and peace ,will soon be rotting in jail.

    This is what America has done to itself after Afghna war in plain sight.
    It pulverizes a country ,reduce it to destitute and then offer some asylums,some aids,and showcase some women trying to enetr into American dreams felling the violnce and poverty pursued by junta or corrupt leaders . Cape Verde gets its 5 dollars in few thousnads – enough to buy thiusnads cattle and few girls and house . But they wont team up and fight .

    “Saab was a target for Interpol and the U.S., a genious with the means and know-how to run an entire country’s economy under sanction
    , Saab had risen to become a key person over the last decade fixing on the country’s housing and food programs, juggling contacts, companies and bank accounts around the world. The U.S. Department of Justice has charged Saab with money laundering.

    Saab’s rise began in 2007 and peaked when President Trump’s U.S. sanctions against Venezuela were imposed in 2019, freezing the property and interests of the Maduro government in the U.S. and stopping foreign energy companies from working with government-owned oil giant PDVSA. Much to the annoyance of the Trump and Biden administrations, Saab, a creative and capable businessman, found a way to navigate Venezuelan trade in sectors like food, oil and gold between the cracks of U.S. oversight.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2021/10/01/money-man-for-venezuelaaccused-of-looting-billionsnears-extradition-to-the-us/?sh=7aa816f96a5f

  61. @Ray Caruso

    Poor Ray, born in the wrong century so life has been an ongoing struggle to fit in.

    But, all you had to do was summon the courage to move. There are still places on the globe with archaic world views and values. One such place is warm and sandy…. Afghanistan, and I hear the Taliban are hiring! Good luck, ya old relic.

    • Troll: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Ray Caruso
  62. @The Real World

    Pathetic attempt at wit there. It makes no sense to bring up “… Afghanistan” when the sentence “The Taliban are right” was the centerpiece of my first post. Yeah, Afghanistan. I know all about it. It’s one of the many countries that will still be around after the nigger-loving, kike-loving, sodomite-loving, and cunt-loving cesspool called the US of A is only found in the history kindles, history holograms, or whatever else they will be using a generation from now.

    You say I’m born in the wrong century, but you’re only partly right. I was born in the wrong decade, but not in the wrong century because negro-judeo-homo-femo-supremacy won’t have a whole century.

    • Replies: @liamjq
  63. @Olivier1973

    Afghans are savages because that is their nature. Blacks are savages because that is their nature. Jews are criminal parasites because that is their nature. Hundreds of years of evidence proves these facts. Whites need to rid ourselves of these deadly enemies. The happy clappy experiments with “living together and thriving together” have utterly failed.

    • Replies: @Metropole
    , @RobinG
  64. liamjq says:
    @Ray Caruso

    Unendowed with wealth or pity,
    Little birds with scarlet legs,
    Sitting on their speckled eggs,
    Eye each flu-infected city.
    Altogether elsewhere, vast
    Herds of reindeer move across
    Miles and miles of golden moss,
    Silently and very fast

    The Fall of Rome
    W. H. Auden – 1907-1973

  65. Metropole says:
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    Afghans are savages because that is their nature.

    Pleeeeze. It’s not very becoming to make such a sweeping statement. Afghans are among the nicest people you’ll ever meet, assuming that you’re invited. They treat a guest like a king. Violent invaders, on the other hand, are frowned upon.

    Here’s a travel vlog from before the Taliban took over. The vlogger is a Jewish American and he loves Afghanistan. You would expect that they’ll tear him apart, but he is treated well.

    Afghanistan is very poor and uneducated because of the Russian and American invasions of the last 40 years. Otherwise it would have been a lot better off.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  66. RobinG says:
    @Fisk Ellington Rutledge IV

    Whites are clumsy suckers because that is their nature. Especially the Nazi fanboys.

  67. @The Real World

    One way to ameliorate the situation you mentioned is to have the wife NOT work full-time while also trying to raise children, run the house, and care for / support the husband, isn’t it?

    On a related note, there are millions of American couples who claim that they “cannot afford” for the wife to stay home (or to work part-time outside the home) but actually could afford it if they had their priorities straight and sacrificed.

    Love to see a study of couple-with-children households where both father and mother work full-time. Ask the couples whether they feel that they can afford to have the mother reduce her work outside the house to part-time. Of the couples who say “no” or “unsure”, ask how much they spend each month on their new-vehicle payment and such “necessities” as

    — alcohol
    — tobacco
    — marijuana
    — expensive espresso
    — TV (satellite, cable, online)
    — sports tickets and gear

    Honest answers will reveal that the “inability to afford” Mom working part-time instead of full-time is very often self-inflicted and fixable.

    Mind you, I’m a big fan of most of these unnecessary vices and pasttimes myself. Like the old t-shirt used to read, “ATF”and in smaller print “Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms — Sounds good, I’ll Bring the Chips.” Nowadays, we might say “I’ll Bring the Weed”, but i digress.

    But we spend little to nothing on most of these, haven’t had TV “service” in over a decade, get by with one vehicle, rarely buy vehicles less than four years old, and buy about half of our clothes & books & toys & music used rather than new — and voila, amazingly, we are able to have my wife stay home and raise a reasonably large family. We go on vacations, we dine out some, and we have a blast. And we never claim we can’t afford to have my wife be a stay-at-home Mom.

    In other words, a healthy portion of these couples are having Mom work full-time for things that they apparently value more than their children having their Mom at home … and perhaps more than their marriage, given the unfair toll that full-time paid work combined with mothering exacts on many women.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  68. @Maddaugh

    It is sad, but it’s also sad that you’re advising everyone to forgo marriage. That may be an over-reaction to what you’ve personally gone through with the fairer sex, which is “understandable” but still leading to bad advice for most people. Such advice does a dis-service to young people especially.

  69. @Metropole

    Whatever else the Russians did in Afghanistan, it seems untenable to claim that their presence lowered the education and knowledge level of the Afghans.

  70. saggy says: • Website
    @Metropole

    If the photo you showed were the only evidence, I would be inclined to agree that it is not bin Laden. However, it is not the only evidence, from the linked article …

    However, seated to his right on camera was Ayman Al-Zawahiri, the Egyptian doctor who is bin Laden’s closest adviser,

    Senior al Qaeda spokesman Abu Ghaith also appears in the tape.
    …..
    The Saudi ambassador to the United States said the tape displayed”the cruel and inhuman face of a murderous criminal” while UnitedArab Emirates Information Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zaidal-Nahayan said it “confirms [bin Laden’s role] in a way thatleaves no room for doubt.”

    Since the question of bin Laden’s involvement is crucial I would expect to see a thorough analysis of the tape by persons who know Arabic and are familiar with bin Laden and his coterie. I haven’t seen it.

    • Replies: @Metropole
  71. Metropole says:
    @saggy

    It’s obviously a professionally made video. It was part of a plan to justify a 20-year war.

    From the photos we can recognize that Bin Laden is fake. If that is so, then the rest of the video is immaterial. What other characters are with the fake Bin Laden and what they’re saying is meaningless.

    Bin Laden was a mortal enemy of the Saudi regime, so what they say would be biased.

    PS: Doctored pictures of a dead Bin Laden were also published after the US raid. They were also proven to be fake. They took a picture of some other man killed in battle, and changed his features to look like Bin Laden and presented it as evidence of him being killed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake

    • Replies: @saggy
  72. saggy says: • Website
    @Metropole

    Your post is just jive, start to finish. Several persons were IDed in the vid, Arabs IDed bin Laden, the photo is blurry as hell, etc. But, for you the blurry photo is enough, don’t bother with a serious investigation. Typical of the idiocy that infects the 9/11 truthers, the covidiots, etc. The hell of it is you’re giving conspiracy theorists a bad name …. and everything is a conspiracy. Who benefits? The ((( real conspirators and the real conspiracies ))), i.e. the holohoax, the endless wars for Israel.

    I don’t know if it’s fake or not, I doubt it. But I do know I haven’t seen a serious investigation.

    • Replies: @Metropole
  73. @RadicalCenter

    Rad – I agree with your observation that many two parents families actually don’t require both parents to work outside the home, if they are mostly non-materialists. My father made the same observation over 30 years ago. He, you and I are right about that.

    But, that is an entirely different issue than what I (and Ray) was putting forth. People can make their own choices about their family lives – it’s none of our business.

    He is someone who doesn’t even deny he was born at the wrong time. Clearly, he is uncomfortable in the 21st century (notice my charity in phrasing it that way). My point is, he should just go deal with that himself. Other people don’t care that he can’t find contentment in his own era – that’s his problem.

    Frankly, it is also irritating hearing a person whine about the opportunities and achievements of a group that he obviously sees as secondary to his group. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize he isn’t happy with his own achievement levels; as in lack thereof.

    Lastly, it is very important to provide some perspective here. There is rarely a week that goes by that I don’t see in our small regional newspaper – part of a larger metro – an article about, yet another, male RAPING or SODOMIZING someone. Realize those are just the ones who’ve gotten caught. Basically, it’s every damn week I’m reading about it, Rad. Now that is a freaking epidemic that I see males doing NOTHING to curb. They read those articles too. When will they grow enough of a conscience to engage in major efforts to stop all the VIOLENCE? I’m asking – when?

    You guys actually want to deal with a SERIOUS problem – it is that. (Obviously, add murder, assault, robbery, arson, etc. to that list as well.)

    • Replies: @Mr Gen
  74. Metropole says:
    @saggy

    You said yourself that you agree that the photo doesn’t look like OBL.

    If the photo you showed were the only evidence, I would be inclined to agree that it is not bin Laden.

    I’m not an investigator. I’m a layman who goes by what information is available. The whole 9/11 saga is a litany of discrepancies and unanswered questions, of which there must be 100. The powers that be haven’t bothered answering any of them. I’ve seen enough to make my own decision.

    For those who need more convincing, they’re welcome to do their own, more thorough, investigation.

  75. Mr Gen says:
    @The Real World

    Whatever. I maintain that you are an arrogant tosser. Was that meant to be a riposte?

    Twice the working population has led to a halving of wages, middle class (UK definition) people rely on the extended phenotype of grandparental help to maintain their lifestyle. Feminism was sold as a great freedom, but instead made wage slaves of us all, and it is difficult for a single income to maintain a family life with the expected extras (holidays, nice house, etc etc) to any degree of sustainablity. Men want their partners to work and do all the household tasks? Not my experience. The OK Cupid data is clear – 80% of men are considered below average attractiveness. The men’s data is the expected bell curve. How do we fix that exactly?

  76. Mr Gen says:
    @The Real World

    Ever seen The Glass Blind Spot? 1/3 of domestic violence is against males -and they have absolutely no recourse.

    • Troll: The Real World
  77. @dimples

    At the end of “The Good Shepherd” (the best movie no one ever saw), Mr. Hayes (Fictional Director of CIA ca. 1962) says to Mr. Wilson (fictional CIA Director of counter-intelligence), “People ask me why, when I speak of CIA, I never say ‘the’. I tell them, ‘Do you use “the” when you speak of God?”
    The movie was a quintessential “truth drop”, directed by Robert DiNiro, starring Matt Damon and Angelina Jolie, all-star supporting cast that ranged from Joe Pesci to William Hurt. And never marketed to sell… they told us the truth, and set us up to not hear it.

  78. @beavertales

    Remember it was Donald Rumsfeld who stated following 911 that USA does NOT deal with terrorists and Rumsfeld stated the Afghan Government was Taliban and Terrorist. However, the Taliban had earlier forred to help USA root out the terrorists?? Taliban then —Taliban Now —

  79. @ivan

    Uighurs are a respected minority and are educated in both Uighur and Mandarin—China has 56 minorities and they are encouraged to retain their culture- tradations and language-_Tibetans likewise are educated in Tibetan and Mandarin.

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