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Just over a month ago I was riding high and celebrating the steady upward progress of our alternative media webzine. I proudly noted that our traffic had now far surpassed that of the venerable New Republic, a century old publication that had spent decades as America’s most influential opinion magazine.

But pride goeth before the fall. At the end of April we were suddenly purged and banned by Facebook, the world’s leading social network. Not only was our rudimentary Facebook page removed, but every last item of our website content was declared illegal, with all past and future links eliminated. Any attempt to post our material on Facebook now produces an error message reporting that the content is “abusive” and a violation of “community standards.”

Although I personally don’t use Facebook or other social networks, billions of people do, and totally excluding all of our content from that important distribution channel eventually produced a 20% drop in our regular daily traffic, a serious blow that set us back many months.

At first I was rather surprised by this unexpected development. After all, we had already spent years publishing articles and posts of an extremely controversial nature, notably including my own American Pravda series. As far back as 2018, my writings had been attacked by the ADL, though that notoriously ferocious organization seemed rather perfunctory and milquetoast in its denunciation. During all this time, we had not incurred any Facebook penalties, but now we had suddenly been totally banned.

An obvious explanation was the ongoing Covid-19 epidemic. Over 80,000 Americans have died while unemployment has already reached Great Depression levels. During such a tremendous national crisis, strong steps are often taken to maintain social control, and Facebook had come under great pressure to block the distribution of dangerous misinformation on its network, which the company’s top leadership soon promised to do.

Now “misinformation” is a somewhat vague term, and our very extensive Coronavirus coverage had hardly included suggestions that Americans drink bleach or inject themselves with Lysol. But critics have often linked such health care falsehoods with what they considered “conspiracy theories” about Covid-19 and its origins. A new organization had recently taken out a full-page ad in the New York Times that denounced these latter notions in very strong terms, claiming that such ideas were almost as dangerous as the virus itself and spread as rapidly, therefore demanding that they be banned by the leading social networks.

Although the term “conspiracy theory” generally carries a pejorative meaning, if taken as a simple description, I would certainly agree that our website had trafficked in some articles along those lines.

Indeed, just before the Facebook ban I had published a 7,400 word article presenting the considerable circumstantial evidence that our national disaster may have been the unintended blowback from an extremely reckless American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), presumably organized by the Deep State Neocons or other rogue elements within our national security establishment. The piece generated enormous early traffic, more than any of my previous articles, and perhaps twice as many Facebook Likes. The following extracts provide a taste of the material I presented:

As the coronavirus gradually began to spread beyond China’s own borders, another development occurred that greatly multiplied my suspicions. Most of these early cases had occurred exactly where one might expect, among the East Asian countries bordering China. But by late February Iran had become the second epicenter of the global outbreak. Even more surprisingly, its political elites had been especially hard-hit, with a full 10% of the entire Iranian parliament soon infected and at least a dozen of its officials and politicians dying of the disease, including some who were quite senior. Indeed, Neocon activists on Twitter began gleefully noting that their hatred Iranian enemies were now dropping like flies.

Let us consider the implications of these facts. Across the entire world the only political elites that have yet suffered any significant human losses have been those of Iran, and they died at a very early stage, before significant outbreaks had even occurred almost anywhere else in the world outside China. Thus, we have America assassinating Iran’s top military commander on Jan. 2nd and then just a few weeks later large portions of the Iranian ruling elites became infected by a mysterious and deadly new virus, with many of them soon dying as a consequence. Could any rational individual possibly regard this as a mere coincidence?

• • •

For obvious reasons, the Trump Administration has become very eager to emphasize the early missteps and delays in the Chinese reaction to the viral outbreak in Wuhan, and has presumably encouraged our media outlets to direct their focus in that direction.

As an example of this, the Associated Press Investigative Unit recently published a rather detailed analysis of those early events purportedly based upon confidential Chinese documents. Provocatively entitled “China Didn’t Warn Public of Likely Pandemic for 6 Key Days”, the piece was widely distributed, running in abridged form in the NYT and elsewhere. According to this reconstruction, the Chinese government first became aware of the seriousness of this public health crisis on Jan. 14th, but delayed taking any major action until Jan. 20th, a period of time during which the number of infections greatly multiplied.

Last month, a team of five WSJ reporters produced a very detailed and thorough 4,400 word analysis of the same period, and the NYT has published a helpful timeline of those early events as well. Although there may be some differences of emphasis or minor disagreements, all these American media sources agree that Chinese officials first became aware of the serious viral outbreak in Wuhan in early to mid-January, with the first known death occurring on Jan. 11th, and finally implemented major new public health measures later that same month. No one has apparently disputed these basic facts.

But with the horrific consequences of our own later governmental inaction being obvious, elements within our intelligence agencies have sought to demonstrate that they were not the ones asleep at the switch. Earlier this month, an ABC News story cited four separate government sources to reveal that as far back as late November, a special medical intelligence unit within our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a report warning that an out-of-control disease epidemic was occurring in the Wuhan area of China, and widely distributed that document throughout the top ranks of our government, warning that steps should be taken to protect US forces based in Asia. After the story aired, a Pentagon spokesman officially denied the existence of that November report, while various other top level government and intelligence officials refused to comment. But a few days later, Israeli television mentioned that in November American intelligence had indeed shared such a report on the Wuhan disease outbreak with its NATO and Israeli allies, thus seeming to independently confirm the complete accuracy of the original ABC News story and its several government sources.

It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. Unless our intelligence agencies have pioneered the technology of precognition, I think this may have happened for the same reason that arsonists have the earliest knowledge of future fires.

A leaked CDC report recently estimated that American deaths may rise to 3,000/day by the end of this month, and if so, we will probably have suffered a couple of hundred thousand fatalities by the end of summer along with a wrecked economy. If Americans began to suspect that this unimaginable national disaster may have been entirely self-inflicted, the consequences could be explosive. I can easily understand why any such guilty parties along with their close political allies would take all possible steps to prevent such ideas from gaining traction, including blocking their circulation on Facebook.

So after considering these factors, I was disappointed in Facebook but not entirely surprised. After all, in many other parts of the world or historical eras, a midnight raid by the secret police and a one-way ticket to the Gulag would have been the likely response to my provocative writings. Compared to such retaliation, merely having our website blacklisted by a very popular social network amounted to pretty weak tea.

 

However, a few days ago someone brought to my attention a Facebook report documenting their steps to eliminate “inauthentic content” during the month of April. Although it included mention of our own case, I was very surprised at the nature of the discussion.

Apparently, the vast majority of the organizations sanctioned were foreign ones, either from countries like Iran and Russia, or those involved in violent internal conflicts like Georgia, Mauritania, or Myanmar. Almost none of their websites were even mentioned, presumably because they tended to be so small and obscure. I skimmed over a couple of Facebook’s previous reports, which seemed fairly similar.

I’m hardly an expert on Facebook, but it wouldn’t surprise me if our publication is by far the largest and most popular ever to have had its entire content banned. Yet across the 29 pages of the very detailed document, our case was only discussed in the briefest of casual asides.

For example, four full pages including numerous screenshots were presented to justify the banning of SouthFront, a website allegedly based in Crimea that provides a pro-Russian perspective on the Ukrainian and Syrian conflicts. But although our own traffic is several times greater, the explanation for prohibiting all our content was provided in just two scattered sentences:

Our investigation linked this network to VDARE, a website known for posting anti-immigration content, and individuals associated with a similar website The Unz Review.

Although the people behind this operation attempted to conceal their coordination, our investigation linked this network to VDARE, a website known for posting anti-immigration content, and to individuals associated with a similar website The Unz Review.

So the absolute prohibition of any links to our several million pages of unique content, including the near-complete archives of hundreds of America’s leading opinion magazines of the last 150 years, was allegedly justified by our being “similar” to VDare, “a website known for posting anti-immigration content.”

I find this explanation utterly bizarre. We do have republication agreements with a couple of dozen alternative media websites of the Left and Right, including VDare. But since the beginning of the year, our overwhelmingly focus has been on foreign policy issues and the Coronavirus epidemic, so we have only run just 41 VDare pieces. Few of these had anything to do with immigration, and they represented only about 0.2% of our 1,751 articles and posts during this period. Is VDare so enormously powerful a brand that by providing us 0.2% of our recent content, we have necessarily become “similar”?

Moreover, as the Facebook document correctly emphasizes, VDare is an anti-immigration webzine, while I cannot even remember the last time that we featured an article having that theme. And although our own traffic is a dozen times larger, VDare appears to have been the primary target of the prohibition, with our own website merely swept along in the undertow.

Facebook surely invests substantial resources in policing its content, which their report claims is performed by a team of more than 200 professionals. So I find it rather difficult to believe that the decision to ban our entire website, perhaps the largest ever subjected to such a penalty, was taken in such a lackadaisical manner and for such ridiculous reasons.

It seems far more likely that the explanation provided was merely an excuse to avoid explaining the true reason. If the largest website ever banned from Facebook had suffered that penalty for promoting “Covid-19 conspiracy theories” such an announcement might draw unwelcome attention to the facts being presented, perhaps with serious consequences. After all, Facebook employees and executives have themselves suffered as much as everyone else in America from our current disaster, and some of the points we made might even have become the subject of lively internal discussions. So presumably it was much safer to declare that our website had been banned for republishing VDare’s anti-immigration content, even if that only amounted to 0.2% of our total.

Still, careless mistakes are sometimes made. A couple of days ago Facebook announced its new “oversight board” to adjudicate these sorts of matters, so I suppose I will try to get in touch with them to clarify this issue.

 
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  1. Harvey says:

    Why are you throwing Vdare under the bus? We must hang together or we will be hung separately.

  2. andwat says:

    Your website is a place of proper debate and hypothesises. Please keep it going, whatever happens. Best wishes to all.

  3. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    With Facebook under enormous pressure to ban all “Coronavirus conspiracy theories,” this is the obvious reason for our removal.

    I would agree that it’s related to the Coronavirus but I think what we’re seeing in this case is Deep State’s influence on big tech. IMHO, Unz Review was integral to the Chinese pushback on the origin of COVID-19 and for that reason it (UR) was tagged as PNG (as my spook friends would say) by Deep State.

    I’m sure we’ve all seen declassified (TS/SCI/BAR) information on some national security issue or another. While sources and methods are redacted we can see the content. And what is always so remarkable is how unremarkable it is. Some of it even references news articles to establish facts. If the same quality level of info and analysis were used as the basis of an Unz Review column it would be savagely mocked and pilloried by the commenters. Yet people in government jobs treat this useless pile of crap reverently.

    Conversely, in many articles on UR, and especially the comments section, you will find some real jaw-dropping bits of info or intel which you think can’t possibly be true but upon further research you’re able to verify as true. Pretty soon a clear pattern emerges which is vastly different from the official narrative.

    From early on UR was challenging the Deep State official narrative on the Wuhan Coronavirus and suggesting it was a bioweapon false flag. The excellent piece by Whitney Webb really got things going. RU’s excellent work on the subject was the final straw for Deep State.

    When the Chinese government began pushing back against Western propaganda and started to suggest COVID-19 was a U.S. bioweapon by U.S. military personnel in Wuhan I immediately knew that the Chinese government intelligence agencies were reading UR. And I also knew at that time that Deep State would target UR or RU for take down.

    So here we are. The banning of UR on FB is the first phase of the campaign. Like an F-117A Stealth Fighter taking out radar and broadcast stations.

  4. Realist says:

    Although I personally don’t use Facebook or other social networks, billions of people do,…

    And that is the problem…when billions of people believe or agree with something…run the other way.

    The reason you were banned from FB is, probably your promotion and publication of anti-Jewish articles and comments. Zuckerberg is a Jew that, probably, does not share your attitude toward Jews.

    FB is just another travesty that has befallen this country in the last decades.

  5. As shown in this article, the Deputy Attorney General in the United States wants to classify the purposeful exposure and infection of others with the COVID-19 virus as an act of terrorism:

    https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2020/04/covid-terrorism.html

    At this point, Americans who protest en masse against government COVID-based restrictions, those who do not maintain a six foot distance from others or those who ignore other government-mandated restrictions including social isolation and self-quarantining could technically be seen to be involved in the intentional spread of the COVID-19 virus, finding themselves charged with an act of terrorism.

    • Replies: @Richard B
  6. Truth3 says:

    Mr. Unz, it’s simple.

    Facebook is a Mossad Operation. Has been from the get go.

    Mossad wants you and the site suppressed.

    Watch out for the inevitable Car Bomb, Letter Bomb, House Fire from faulty Wiring, Poison in the Ear, Airstrike from the F-16 bombing targets 100 miles away.

  7. Realist says:

    I should have added to my original comment that…FB is a tool of the US government to get around the First Amendment. FB and other social media are propaganda tools used to promote the US government position on issues, mainly by averting anti propaganda from the public, but also by allowing the dissemination of the of government approved propaganda.

    The Deep State does exist.

    • Agree: Michael888, idrankwhat
    • Replies: @Timmy75
  8. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    The biggest name on that oversight board, and I assume the heaviest hitter, is Stanford Law professor Pam Karlan.

  9. Jake says:

    “An obvious explanation was the ongoing Covid-19 epidemic.”

    That was just the convenient excuse. Every little totalitarian, like very humongous totalitarian, knows to never let a crisis go to waste. And that goes double for a fake crisis or an overblown crisis or managed crisis.

    Globalist Totalitarianism – which could make the USSR at its worst seem almost pastoral – intends to murder all populist opposition. Globalist Totalitarianism is much more Brave New World than it is 1984. Globalist Totalitarianism intends for large swaths of the hoi polloi to have easy access to becoming stoned, because the doped are very easy to control in ways that matter to billionaires. Globalist Totalitarianism requires Sexual Revolution in all its facets, because that too makes multitudes easy slaves to control.

    Globalist Totalitarianism requires total control of mass media, big tech, big pharma, food production and distribution. If the masses keep avoiding the propaganda, they can be starved into submission and denied medicines. They even can be weeded out, their numbers cut significantly, by illnesses created in labs owned and operated by the Globalists.

    Historic nationalities, ethnicities, and folk cultures have no meaning, no rights, before Globalist Totalitarianism. Masses of humans – slaves to the economic desires of the Empire’s Elites – are moved around the Empire as its Elites desire, both to produce cheap labor and to disrupt, implode, any entity that could become more than a minor irritant to the Empire’s Elites.

    Globalist Totalitarianism has been erected upon the frame created by the British Empire, which created the nascent forms of globalist corporatism right down to corporations owning entire nations and sub-continents: see the East India Company.

  10. 450.org says:

    The irony. Whilst Zuckerberg bans TUR, the following is totally fine and acceptable and enabled and supported. Zuck’s true colors shining through once again. It’s incredible. Natural selection has been replaced by unnatural selection. Silicon Valley is anti-nature and thus involves unnatural selection. The Zuckerbergs of the world have been unnaturally selected by an unnatural world that’s replacing the natural world. In a natural world, the Zuckerbergs of the world wouldn’t survive a year let alone a month or a week outside of their mothers’ wombs if they made it to term and many wouldn’t make it to term if not for the unnatural world that selected for their unnatural apostasy.

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Anonymous
  11. Bradley says:

    There’s a wide divide out there with many still puzzling without seeing what is actually happening. The ones buying the number dead supposedly of Covid19 start the list. Very bright folk, who am I to argue. Yet the fact these bright folk are missing the scene is mind boggling. It is likely UNZ Review’s removal has nothing to do with above article but more an occasion and first step to take out and otherwise marginalize UNZ for past “transgressions” as much as present. To fail to grasp what is coming, what has already begun … . For example, as folk providing content get banned off youtube or FB, those who have the means to operate a streaming website, have bought time. Nothing more. Individual sites (and why not UNZ?) will be targeted and removed in time. The censorship play is just the beginning. It gains momentum because smart, accomplished folk failed to grasp this event for what it is, being blind sided by the Covid19 distraction – the occasion to implement a New World. Or, at least, a new west, one that Thierry Meyssan among others (e.g. the deliberate destruction of state structures as plan not accident) sees coming about with a massive divide of the world with very little interaction between the two. The west has takens on full totalitarianism and the refinement of AI, the development of a smart grid and the effective regulation of the population (with rewards and punishments metted out according to conformity and submission to vaccines among other things). Fight back Ron. Get pissed. It’s your last opportunity for yourself and for us.

  12. Ron,
    What part of “fake as ****” don’t you understand?

  13. Saggy says: • Website

    Unz was not bounced from Facebook because of VDare, or because of the corona virus, it was bounced because of the many anti-Jew articles. Wake up ! Since explicitly banning all the holohoax books on Amazon, the Jews are taking a less direct approach to sanitizing the rest of the web.

    • Agree: mark green, FLgeezer
  14. Gunga Din says:

    Little wonder that the (((powers that be))) at Faceberg would ban Unz. And, I read an article about who the oversight board members are going to be: typical liberal joos.

  15. To hell with Face Book. I love your site and I have never looked at your FB. I do not do any kind of news or opinion on FB. FB is the vehicle by where you stay in touch with that crazy 2nd cousin in Kenosha or reminisce nice times with your nursery school sweetheart of 60+ years ago. That’s it. All those folks have to do is come to your site directly. Better for them, I don’t know if it’s better for you.

    • Replies: @Emslander
  16. “…Our investigation linked this network to VDARE, a website known for posting anti-immigration content, and individuals associated with a similar website The Unz Review…”

    So Big Brother has decided that any opposition to unrestricted open borders is doubleplusungoodthink.

    The war against free speech has become relentless. Soon, as another commenter has suggested, we will be reduced to samizdats. It might be a good idea to stock up on typewriters and mimeograph machines while they are still available at fleamarkets and the like.

    • Agree: Omegabooks
  17. Delta G says:
    @Realist

    Zuckerberg is a sterotypical jewboy today. Do you really think he is intelligent or did the Intelligence agencies set him up like Epstein? How is it that a turd becomes a genius and rich doing garbage?

    Just look at him, you can see he’s a faggot and dangerous one at that.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Joe Levantine
  18. anon[185] • Disclaimer says:

    Facebook employees and executives have themselves suffered as much as everyone else in America from our current disaster

    Say what? Can you find a single Fecesbook turd who is facing financial ruin?

    • Replies: @Czarlazar
  19. Write to the F-book commissars, Ron. Gather their responses. Build your case. Then take them to court. You could easily win. And you would win BIG!

  20. And, yes, vdare is an influential brand. The so-called ‘immigration moratorium’ idea that Trump announced (massively watered down to nothing by daughter and son-in-law to allow crony deals with Indian and China to continue), comes from vdare. Even Stephen Miller was pilloried by the ‘liberal media’ for scrolling through a dare webpage on his mobile phone…

  21. Realist says:
    @Delta G

    How is it that a turd becomes a genius and rich doing garbage?

    I agree that Zuckerberg is a turd and that FB is garbage…how does that reflect on the 10’s of millions of Americans that use it?
    As to Zuckerberg’s intellect I do not know. I do know the brains behind Microsoft was Paul Allen and the brains behind Apple was Steve Wozniak.

    • Replies: @Getaclue
    , @TomSchmidt
  22. Please allow me to set the record straight. Our report originally read,

    “Our investigation linked this network to people who noticed the overwhelming open source evidence showing that CIA mad scientists made Frankenstein germs in a lab, infected Americans with them to whet their appetite for human flesh, picked out the deadliest mutations, and went and coughed on Chinese people to wipe them out but it didn’t work and instead we started dropping like flies.”

    But then Mr. Zuckerberg said, ah, let’s, ah, put it more concisely. Thanks for understanding!

    Yael Glavlit, Content Associate, Facebook

    • LOL: Craig Nelsen
  23. willem1 says:

    I’ve never been on Farcebook. I follow your website and my other favorites via RSS, which can never be censored. I would urge all who want to make sure their preferred websites aren’t silenced to use RSS, and all websites to include an RSS feed as an option.

  24. It’s probably just a case of squelching dissident voices while everybody is distracted by the virus and using the virus as an opportunity to create a precedent for exerting greater control in the future.

    It is interesting that I know of someone shadow banned from the Instapundit site after linking to Unz’s article on the the virus.

  25. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    The reason you were banned from FB is, probably your promotion and publication of anti-Jewish articles and comments.

    No, this is obviously not the case. The most unacceptable stuff on UR has been on the site for years. Some of those columns (especially America Pravda installments) have been far outside the bounds of would be considered politically acceptable yet apparently it was never a problem. But those prior America Pravda installments— even though they would be considered much more offensive— only challenged the official narrative regarding historical events.

    The key difference here, with these recent China Coronavirus articles, is that these articles challenge the official narrative in a current propaganda campaign and covert war against China. UR and RU has been deemed hostile to Deep State’s operation and thus needing to be silenced.

    When I first heard Chinese government officials using information which was originally published on UR I knew Deep State would be targeting UR and/or RU. Since RU apparently doesn’t drive much I knew the first strike by Deep State wouldn’t be similar to the Michael Hastings case. But now we know Deep State has begun to engage in a campaign to silence UR and RU.

    As as disconcerting as all this is, is also confirms that, a) that there is an active Deep State operation and covert war against China, and b) UR articles, especially RU’s recent American Pravda installment, contained accurate info deemed which was deemed a threat by Deep State.

    • Agree: Miro23, TomSchmidt
    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Dutch Boy
  26. Jett Rucker says: • Website
    @Harvey

    Where do you get the idea Unz is throwing Vdare under the bus?

    Did you read the article? With comprehension? Even a little?

    • Replies: @Jake
  27. anon[648] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe we should set up a diaspora instance for Unz readers who want social network functions, and duplicate facebook’s features without pimping out their personal data or censoring them. Natural News did that and now it’s a superior substitute for facebook.

  28. Jimmy1969 says:

    I have only been banned from one site: Facebook. The banning was a result of constant criticism of Israeli policies and powerful American Zionist organizations that support them. Ironically many of the facts that I used to support my relentless criticism came from the Times of Israel or the Jerusalem Post or Jewish American writers and intellectuals. Facebook is in some ways a proxy spokesperson for Zionist interests., and Ron I think you know that.
    Here is one other sinister fact of life that no one ever articulates specifically about Facebook. On many commentary sites on tens of thousands of small town papers in the world you need Facebook to get into them . Facebook does the free dirty work for these outlets by pre screening comments. BUT that means that in a small town in northern Alberta Canada or in a mining village in Quebec Canada or a zillion towns in rural America and zillions of places all over the world if there is a little zoning dispute or a high rise going up and people get a little hot under the collar…they can be shut out and banned from some geek in a basement in San Francisco. Taking Canada where my cousin lives…he has made hundreds of complaints to Government people that a California American San Francisco company controls the news commentary for Canada. Canada apparently is VERY touchy and brittle about their sovereignty in relation to the Elephant to the south….but every time my Professor cousin writes to Justin Trudeau and other organizations about Facebook controlling Canadian intellectual live he gets no reply…and you can dtto that for hundreds of other Countries too.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Olorin
    , @JWalters
  29. @Harvey

    He is not attempting to throw VDare under the bus. He is just pointing out how ridiculous the Facebook excuse for banning Unz Review is by linking Unz Review to VDare. It is known as the logical fallacy of “guilt by association” and in this case the association is tiny.

  30. anon[259] • Disclaimer says:

    For once, I think the simplest explanation is probably correct: the “200 professionals” at Facebook’s censorship department simply aren’t especially effective, and have only just got around to banning VDare and associates.

    You might think that these people think “Know thy enemy” and therefore carefully research all aspects of what they believe to be the discourse of hate. And that therefore they must have been aware of this website, and made a conscious decision not to ban it, before reversing that decision recently. And so you’ll look for what might have caused them to change their mind.

    But actually they’re probably just a bunch of fat nerds and trannies who spend most of their time off sick hobbled by their emotional problems. They probably simply hadn’t read any VDare before a few weeks ago. Once they did, and once they’d stopped crying, they banned it and anything associated with it. Simple.

    (This is based on my own occasional brief encounters with the internet thought police: they generally don’t seem to be wrapped too tight, nor too on the ball.)

    • Agree: Kratoklastes, dimples
    • Replies: @Anon
  31. Still, careless mistakes are sometimes made. A couple of days ago Facebook announced its new “oversight board” to adjudicate these sorts of matters, so I suppose I will try to get in touch with them to clarify this issue.

    Do you have in mind a % bet on the chances that FB’s “oversight board” will admit their “careless mistake” and restore Unz to the Facebook pantheon?

    —–
    re: “Just over a month ago I was riding high and celebrating the steady upward progress of our alternative media webzine.”

    “Kill all the best ____”

    One other thought: you’re steady patience with your adversary is so turn-the-other-cheek-like. (Hope you’ve protected those cheeks sufficiently.)
    Quite a model and inspiration.

    Thank you.

  32. @Saggy

    UR has published politically incorrect articles on such topics as Jews, immigration, and race for many years (alongside lots of less un-PC stuff) without triggering the censors. OBVIOUSLY its exposure of COVID-19 as a likely US/Zionist bio-attack on China and Iran led to the FB ban.

    Hugely sensitive secrets about world-changing deep state crimes tend to get censored and suppressed most ruthlessly during the immediate aftermath of the crisis, when public perceptions are still malleable. During the first few years after the JFK assassination, brutal censorship was imposed, and dozens if not hundreds of people were killed, including writers like Mary Meyer and Dorothy Killgallen who were murdered to prevent publication of books exposing the crime. Likewise, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, tremendous pressure was applied to the FBI agents looking into the massive Israeli intelligence op in the US (the biggest foreign intelligence operation ever launched against America) during the run-up to the attacks; and researchers reported facing extreme levels of harassment and stonewalling. For example, Jimmy Walter, a multi-millionaire who funded full-page 9/11 truth ads in the NYT and WaPo, was run out of the country by threats and attacks, and has been living in exile ever since. Even a fairly obscure Chicago Muslim, only moderately influential in that community, was driven into exile because he appeared on the radio in fall 2001 calling 9/11 a false flag.

    By the late 1960s and early 1970s, Mark Lane among others was publishing bestsellers exposing the JFK coup. And by 2005 the 9/11 truth movement was picking up steam and being tolerated.

    So UR was almost certainly banned for exposing coronavirus biowar in a timely and potentially destabilizing manner.

  33. @Yael Glavlit

    The Onion would be proud to produce such a body of work.

  34. David says:

    In the last week or so, Facebook has started funding some of the regional news sites I read, ostensibly to get them through the lockdown. So they are working both ends of the problem as they see it. Funding what they like while snuffing what they don’t.

    • Replies: @Craig Nelsen
  35. res says:

    A couple of days ago Facebook announced its new “oversight board” to adjudicate these sorts of matters, so I suppose I will try to get in touch with them to clarify this issue.

    I suspect this process will add some clarity. But not about this specific issue.

    In any case, good luck (sincerely) with getting Facebook to revisit their decision.

  36. So the absolute prohibition of any links to our several million pages of unique content, including the near-complete archives of hundreds of America’s leading opinion magazines of the last 150 years, was allegedly justified by our being “similar” to VDare, “a website known for posting anti-immigration content.”

    I find this explanation utterly bizarre.

    Do you think that a human in the Facebook organization chose to do this, or do you think it was the output of an algorithm? I am pretty sure one of their goals is that every corporate action that can be automated will be automated as soon as can be managed.

  37. Trinity says:

    FaceBerg is mostly used by just the old farts nowadays anyhow. I have tried to persuade some of my fellow old farts for years to dump FaceBerg and to quit patronizing Starbucks, that is some weak ass and extremely overpriced coffee.

    We can see how our First Amendment is being slowly taken away. First they came for the Nazis, then they came for….. haha.

    • Replies: @TGD
  38. Levtraro says:
    @Anon

    Interesting, but why would Chinese IAs need to read UR to come up with the attack hypothesis? Don’t you think they can come up with that on their own?

  39. @Kevin Barrett

    I have been a staunch 9/11 truther since the get-go but this is not 9/11. 9/11 was about physics and engineering. Covid is about biology and organic chemistry. Two entirely different things. Non-organic science vs. organic science.

    I do not think Covid was man-made. There are lots of biological and organic chemistry reasons for this conclusion. Energy is not a life form. Mathematics is not a life form.

    I am against blaming China for this mess. The biological and inorganic chemistry evidence supports the conclusion that Covid was not man-made.

    I have already made posts where geneticists have concluded that the original A strain, now called D614, originated in Southern China not in Wuhan. Not near any war games. Not in the US either, but in Southern China where the bats are. I have also shown posts where geneticists have concluded that all the “insertions” in the Covid genome were already in bats in Southern China in 2013.

    But people who hate the Deep State want to beat up on it regardless of the evidence to the contrary. And since the Deep State is also comprised of our major corporations who profit immensely off of cheap Chinese labor to the detriment of ordinary Americans, one has to ask oneself, which “Deep State” are we talking about.

    FYI. Here is a map of the two major strains D614 and G614. If this was man-made, why are there two strains? Why did the designers choose a virus that was so susceptible to mutations? Are they that fucking dumb?

    https://cov.lanl.gov/apps/covid-19/map/

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
    , @Ron Unz
    , @res
  40. Realist says:
    @Anon

    Read my follow up comment #7

  41. This is the only attempt at an objective anti-UR “assessment ” that I have encountered to date, apparently at the request of Facebook itself: https://public-assets.graphika.com/reports/graphika_report_vdare_takedown.pdf

    tl;dr is (1) a network of Facebook pages run by unknown people heavily reposted UR and VDARE posts (and were apparently especially enthusiastic about promoting one blogger here in particular) in a coordinated fashion, and (2) these posts were in turn liked by people who were more likely, on average, to have been involved with “state-sponsored information operations” and “white supremacism.”

    But both claims ultimately reduce to guilt by association.

    Moreover, they even admit that themselves, if in a turnabout way, noting that there’s no evidence in at least one particular case that UR/VDARE (which are, as Ron says, substantially conflated – here as in Facebook’s own report) were coordinating with the Facebook page managers:

    In one of these posts, a Facebook page attributed to a covert IRIB network amplified an article on the pro-Kremlin blog The Vineyard of the Saker, which said that the Unz Review would be featuring the claim that the United States knew about the Covid-19 outbreak before the Chinese government had detected it. This indicates a shared interest in a certain narrative that passed between different and distinct groups; it should not be taken as indicating any organizational connection between them.

    I assume that Graphika, the company which produced the report, wants to keep Facebook as a client and thus toes the line on their censorship decisions. But it’s telling nonetheless that the sum of the “evidence” they managed to produce is so meager. So perhaps not surprising it doesn’t seem to have especially promoted, I for one only saw it on the Twitter TL of Ben Nimmo, Graphika’s “Director of Investigations”: https://twitter.com/benimmo/status/1257742342901112832

  42. I have not ruled the possibility that COVID-19 is man-made; after all, there are some well-qualified scientists out there who lean in that direction. But one thing about Unz’s theory needs serious explaining: why is the death toll so low for what is supposed to be a bio-weapon? Why would the MIC go to a lot of trouble to, in effect, reinvent the flu? I know the MIC is famous for wasting money, but still …

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  43. @davidgmillsatty

    Oops. Meant to say biological an organic chemistry evidence… Duh.

  44. lysias says:
    @Harvey

    Hanged, you mean.

    • Agree: AKAHorace
    • Replies: @Enemy of Earth
  45. Ron Unz says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    During the first few years after the JFK assassination, brutal censorship was imposed, and dozens if not hundreds of people were killed, including writers like Mary Meyer and Dorothy Killgallen who were murdered to prevent publication of books exposing the crime…By the late 1960s and early 1970s, Mark Lane among others was publishing bestsellers exposing the JFK coup.

    Actually, I think another crucial difference was whether “inside information” was involved. For example, there does seem to be strong evidence that Kilgallen was murdered and her manuscript stolen, but that was because she was a high-profile journalist who claimed to have obtained explosive new evidence that would break the case wide open.

    By contrast, Lane’s very long article appeared just a month after the assassination and his bestselling book in 1966, but aside from trying to discredit him and harassing his publisher, nothing happened to him. That’s because all he did was raise doubts about the official story based upon public information provided by the media and later the Warren Commission report.

    Similarly, all the “controversial” material in my long article comes from MSM sources like the NYT or the WSJ, which is my main source of information about the current outbreak. All I did was analyze the news reports a little and try point out some of the obvious implications.

    My guess is that the “Deep State” is much more ticked off about those four secret intelligence sources who told ABC News about that November DIA report…

    • Agree: Mike P
    • Replies: @lysias
    , @Skeptikal
  46. UK says:

    Like the clown at the end of the second part of the remake of “It”, some people’s egos just cannot take being ignored!

    Quick, write some even nuttier articles…

  47. Ron Unz says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    I do not think Covid was man-made. There are lots of biological and organic chemistry reasons for this conclusion.

    I’ve seen numerous claims on both sides of this question, and I just don’t have the expertise in microbiology or biodefense to be able to evaluate them.

    However, I think it’s very important to distinguish between the Covid-19 outbreak as a “bioweapon” and as “biowarfare.” The former would tend to imply a laboratory-produced virus, probably genetically-engineered, which is apparently a very complex and difficult procedure for a Coronavirus.

    But simply using standard techniques to select a particularly dangerous strain of an existing Coronavirus is certainly much easier, and it could then be deployed in a biowarfare attack. For example, anthrax or smallpox can be used in biowarfare without any need for genetic engineering.

    For these reasons, I had emphasized in my article that I was leaving aside the very complex and sharply-disputed scientific questions about the virus and focusing only on the plain facts of the outbreak, which I think do tend to support the American biowarfare hypothesis.

    • Agree: GazaPlanet
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
    , @utu
  48. Ron —

    Please for the love of knowledge, you have to really fight this. The banning of content here represents to me, a new dark age. If I were rich, I would fight this hard with top lawyers in court. This cannot be allowed to stand. The Unz censorship is to me the greatest act of censorship of all, because many of society’s brightest lights are here.

    Since Unz.com became censored, my view has been that our political process in America is invalid and will never be valid again as long as all these minds are censored. I will have no choice but to teach my children that the American political system is essentially not legitimate because of censorship.

    This is worth a millions of dollars lawsuit. ***It really unfair and capricious to ban a vast number of people over one post by one person. *** If a particular post violates some policy, due process requires dealing with that post. Why don’t they deal with that one post? It is not reasonable to censor an entire domain that hosts much of the output of many of the world’s most important intellectuals.

    Perhaps certain content violates some policy. It is not reasonable to ban speakers and it is not reasonable to ban a whole domain, especially a domain that has such a wide collection of intellects. Remember, Facebook is a kind of monopoly. There is not, and for network-monopoly reasons cannot be, an English language competitor. The market expects one common platform in the space Facebook occupies.

    Perhaps they will come to their senses and be persuaded without a fight, but I can imagine no fight more important. I really wish the most powerful people would fight this censorship but you have ended up as the most important defender of free speech that there is.

    Until this fight is won, the American political system is essentially not legitimate because of censorship.

    • Agree: Skeptikal, Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  49. Ron Unz says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    But one thing about Unz’s theory needs serious explaining: why is the death toll so low for what is supposed to be a bio-weapon? Why would the MIC go to a lot of trouble to, in effect, reinvent the flu?

    Actually, I discussed that in my article. Since the Covid-19 fatality rate is only 0.5%-1%, it certainly is useless as an anti-personnel bioweapon. However, it’s very effective at severely damaging an economy, as America has now discovered to its great misfortune. A (purported) 40-year veteran of American biodefense made that important point in his analysis that I had republished:

    One important point he made was that high lethality was often counter-productive in a bioweapon since debilitating or hospitalizing large numbers of individuals may impose far greater economic costs on a country than a biological agent which simply inflicts an equal number of deaths. In his words “a high communicability, low lethality disease is perfect for ruining an economy,” suggesting that the apparent characteristics of the coronavirus were close to optimal in this regard. Those so interested should read his analysis and judge for themselves his possible credibility and persuasiveness.

    https://www.unz.com/article/was-coronavirus-a-biowarfare-attack-against-china/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

  50. lysias says:
    @Ron Unz

    The DIA report was apparently composed in early November 2019. Second week of November, the Israeli report said.

  51. @Anatoly Karlin

    But both claims ultimately reduce to guilt by association.

    Guilty by association is the prime directive of CIA counterinsurgency technique. The social network algorithms foundational to facebook and the Phoenix Program are identical.

    Also see police narcotics squads. It isn’t what you know that counts. It’s who you know!

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  52. @Ron Unz

    The problem with that thesis Ron is that there were only two previous naturally occurring corona viruses that were particularly deadly, SARS 1 and MERS, and neither were very contagious. And they quickly died out. Both killed less than a thousand people.

    That is the problem with very deadly viruses. Once the population understands they are deadly, everybody avoids them “like the plague.” And so they tend to die out.

    So if you wanted to pick a natural corona virus that was both extremely contagious and deadly there was nothing in nature to choose from.

    My point has always been that Covid is contagious but not very deadly. So why weaponize something like that?

  53. @lysias

    I don’t know. Personally I would rather be hung than hanged. But that’s just me.

    • Replies: @Anon
  54. Anon[603] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harvey

    I’m amazed having an anti-immigration point of view would be grounds for removal.

    Immigration is a big issue. Not everyone wants more immigration, why shouldn’t they be able to say so. Why should Facebook even be involved in this?

    • Replies: @216
  55. Hrw-500 says:

    Vloggers Styxhexenhammer666 and timcast posted some interesting rants about Facebook latest move.

    At this rate, Facebook will became relevant as MySpace.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  56. @Ron Unz

    But you can’t control it. You can’t control the mutations, and there is an extremely good chance it will backfire on you.

    And if we did it, it backfired on us. So then you have to conclude that our people were willing to wreck our own economy in order to wreck the economy of some other government.

    • Replies: @lysias
    , @Ron Unz
  57. It seems far more likely that the explanation provided was merely an excuse to avoid explaining the true reason. If the largest website ever banned from Facebook had suffered that penalty for promoting “Covid-19 conspiracy theories” such an announcement might draw unwelcome attention to the facts being presented, perhaps with serious consequences.

    Actually, here is an excerpt of the Facebook document you linked to in comment #321 to your previous piece:

    Most recently, this network shared COVID-19-related conspiracies and hate speech about Asian Americans.

    That “network” is described in the following paragraph of that document:

    our investigation linked this network to VDARE, a website known for posting anti-immigration content, and to individuals associated with a similar website The Unz Review.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  58. lysias says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    They may have thought our economy was going to collapse soon in any case. This way, the blame could be diverted, to a virus and/or to China.

  59. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    ” I was leaving aside the very complex and sharply-disputed scientific questions about the virus” – I was impressed with Yuri Deigin’s analysis: “Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research.”

    https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

    • Agree: James N. Kennett
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Ron Unz
  60. lysias says:

    The UR network shared hate speech against Asian Americans? Well, I have certainly seen extremely Sinophobic comments on this site that were not deleted. But the views were the commenters’. I assume they were not deleted because of this site’s free speech policies. I have seen nothing Sinophobic from RU or in any of the pieces posted here.

    I now wonder whether those unreasonable Sinophobic comments were posted precisely to serve as an excuse for censoring the site.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  61. Perhaps more apropos header image if not for the crappy [not-even] Photoshop job:

    • Replies: @216
  62. Getaclue says:
    @Realist

    DARPA had a very near Facebook type thing going “Lifelog” that closed the day Facebook was started: https://www.wired.com/2004/02/pentagon-kills-lifelog-project/

    Facebook does exactly what the Government spies were attempting at “Lifelog” “an ambitious effort to build a database tracking a person’s entire existence” — privacy issues closed it down supposedly — to then be opened “privately” to accomplish the same thing? As to all these “geniuses” such as Gates, the Google founders, Bezos…– there are these murky connections as to all of them– in funding and otherwise — if you research thoroughly–that seem to indicate that there are “Intelligence Agency”/DARPA/Deep State connections and “help” given to them — the well known cover story as to Gates “outsmarting” IBM is laughable, his Mother knew all the players there, his Grandfather was on the Federal Reserve Board, his Father, a well connected Lawyer, was head of the Eugenic abortuary Planned Parenthood and is co-chair of the Gates Foundation although you never hear a word as to him —

    Bill Gates has now come out fully and “emerged” as a front man for the NWO Agenda in this Medical Martial Law roll out, leading to mass Vaccinations/chipping/24/7 “health” monitoring, that we are now seeing unfold daily….– all of these “geniuses” then work finally for Globalist type goals after “privatizing” what the “Intelligence” Agencies/Deep State NWO Government can’t do otherwise– funny how that works out. The head of DARPA actually went to work for Facebook having previously worked at Google– nothing to see there of course….

    This video of James Corbett lays it out nicely as to Facebook/DARPA “coincidences”: https://www.corbettreport.com/the-weird-darpa-facebook-coincidence-you-never-heard-about/

    — funny you hear all about “Conspiracy Theories” but to accept all of this you have to be a “Coincidence Theorist” — the truth is all need to be Conspiracy Realists– the idea is to take all freedom from the Peons as they have in the NWO Globalist ChiCom “Model” where you need a “green” light to walk out your door daily and if it red you stay in until it is green….– we are seeing this all become our “reality” here in the USA every day now. People need to wake up?: https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-true-agenda-of-the-who-a-new-world-order-modeled-after-china/

    • Agree: TheTrumanShow
    • Thanks: Realist
  63. sarz says:

    It wouldn’t hurt to get UR on to the Russian owned Facebook clone, VK, at vk.com. So far it’s uncensored. Pepe Escobar for one has an account there, that he set up in response to censorship at Facebook if I remember correctly. The more that our sort go over to VK the more useful for us it will get.

  64. Ron Unz says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    But you can’t control it. You can’t control the mutations, and there is an extremely good chance it will backfire on you.

    And if we did it, it backfired on us.

    Well, that’s a perfectly logical argument, but I tried to address it in my long article:

    When considering the hypothesis of an American biowarfare attack, certain natural objections come to mind.  The major drawback to biological warfare has always been the obvious fact that the self-replicating agents employed will not respect national borders, thus raising the serious risk that the disease might eventually return to the land of its origin and inflict substantial casualties.  For this reason, it seems very doubtful that any rational and half-competent  American leadership would have unleashed the coronavirus against China.

    But as we see absolutely demonstrated in our daily news headlines, America’s current government is grotesquely and manifestly incompetent, more incompetent than one could almost possibly imagine, with tens of thousands of Americans having now already paid with their lives for such extreme incompetence.  Rationality and competence are obviously nowhere to be found among the Deep State Neocons that President Donald Trump has appointed to so many crucial positions throughout our national security apparatus.

    Moreover, the extremely lackadaisical notion that a massive coronavirus outbreak in China would never spread back to America might have seemed plausible to individuals who carelessly assumed that past historical analogies would continue to apply.  As I wrote a few weeks ago:

    Reasonable people have suggested that if the coronavirus was a bioweapon deployed by elements of the American national security apparatus against China (and Iran), it’s difficult to imagine why the they didn’t assume it would naturally leak back in the US and start a huge pandemic here, as is currently happening.

    The most obvious answer is that they were stupid and incompetent, but here’s another point to consider…

    In late 2002 there was the outbreak of SARS in China, a related virus but that was far more deadly and somewhat different in other characteristics. The virus killed hundreds of Chinese and spread into a few other countries before it was controlled and stamped out. The impact on the US and Europe was negligible, with just a small scattering of cases and only a death or two.

    So if American biowarfare analysts were considering a coronavirus attack against China, isn’t it quite possible they would have said to themselves that since SARS never significantly leaked back into the US or Europe, we’d similarly remain insulated from the coronavirus? Obviously, such an analysis was foolish and mistaken, but would it have seemed so implausible at the time?

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  65. What else is new? Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, Wiki, NYT, WaPo, The Guardian, CNN, State Department, CIA, MI6, and many others of their ilk are run by the same forces that promote their propaganda lies and are never interested in truth.

    The only thing that surprises me is that Facebook did not ban Unz Review earlier. Clearly an oversight of their censors.

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @Biff
  66. 216 says:
    @Anon

    The stated reasons were

    The people behind this network used fake accounts to create fictitious personas, post in Groups,
    manage Pages, drive traffic to off-platform sites, and evade enforcement

    Most recently, this network shared COVID-19-related conspiracies and
    hate speech about Asian Americans.

    Although the people behind this operation attempted
    to conceal their coordination,

    Merely being anti-immigration is not banned, yet.

    Are the Facebook ToS worthless and undeserving of respect, yes. Ideally we would nationalize the company.

    But they will police violations of their silly rules, and its our fault if we attempt ban evasion.

    It also appears that claiming “the media lies about white death rates” really set their alarm bells ringing.

    • Replies: @bomag
  67. @sarz

    Agree 100%. BTW, Google searches cannot be trusted, either. Yandex does a lot more honest job.

    • Replies: @sarz
  68. 216 says:
    @Matthew Kelly

    The left will construct epicycles to claim they are not in favor of open borders.

    On the mainstream platforms, ideas have to be presented abstractly, group based condemnations are verboten, and if someone isn’t a celebrity you can’t criticize them personally. And even criticizing celebrities runs the risk of “targeted harassment”, so I wouldn’t even bother.

    So we can say “I oppose immigration”. But its very limited to what we can say about “why” we oppose it.

    My guess:

    -It helps the left
    -Its bad for the environment
    -It lowers wages (in time this argument will be banned as “misinformation”)
    -Increases traffic congestion and housing prices

    What is not OK:
    -Race
    -Culture
    -Disease
    -Anything tagged as a conspiracy theory
    -The fact that immigrants tend to be more male than average
    -Attacking the immigrant, and not immigration

    One can imagine they will also get angry at “Immigrants vote Democrat”, so always qualify with “Most immigrants vote Democrat”.

  69. Ron Unz says:
    @lysias

    The UR network shared hate speech against Asian Americans?

    Yes, I saw that in the Facebook report, but it didn’t seem to make any sense, so I assume that the reference might have been to some VDare articles, like most of the section was focusing on. I suppose you could stretch a point with some of the John Derbyshire articles that we republish, but his wife is Chinese, so that would be a strange argument.

    For example, last week I republished my long China/America article from a few years ago, which got lots of nice traffic, and I doubt any objective reader would put it into that category. By contrast, I’d think that ordinary rightwing websites like Breitbart publish 1000x as much “anti-Chinese hatespeech” as we do:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/chinas-rise-americas-fall/

    It seems to me that either Facebook was looking for some possible excuse to ban our website or the Facebook banning-people are just much more incompetent than I’d assumed.

  70. Dutch Boy says:
    @Anon

    The American political and economic establishments have been working with China and demonizing Russia for decades (there is no money to be made exploiting Russian labor). Claims that China is the ultimate source of Covid and then covered it up would work against their interests. People would think twice about our economic dependence on China and support repatriating American industries. That is the last thing our overlords would want.

  71. Dutch Boy says:

    Another possibility: unz.com has started publishing material by E. Michael Jones. Dr. Jones really brings out the beast in SPLC and ADL types and they would be strongly tempted to lean on Zuckerberg to limit the reach of Jones’ articles. As for FB itself, it’s a nice place to share family photos and info and catch up with old friends but I wouldn’t sweat too much about being banned there.

  72. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    Reaching the passive facebook livestock is only one thing this site does well. It also draws the kind of people who get censored – like people who know what’s going on.

    back in 2017 there was a very productive multinational leapchat on the general theme of state crime that collated a ton of helpful evidence on illegal CIA biowarfare. It spread onto Tor hidden services, Crabgrass, Protonmail, and i2p. The impetus was the prototype of Barrett Brown’s Pursuance Project.

    We have some very plugged-in people here so if it would be helpful to break off, you know, just between us girls, we can set that up again.

  73. res says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    FYI. Here is a map of the two major strains D614 and G614. If this was man-made, why are there two strains? Why did the designers choose a virus that was so susceptible to mutations? Are they that fucking dumb?

    https://cov.lanl.gov/apps/covid-19/map/

    Viruses mutate. Whether designed or not. There are far more than two strains out there, it is just that D614 and G614 are subgroups which seem to vary in significant ways. For anyone interested, GISAID has a database of over 5000 virus genomes. Here is their browser if you would like to see how much variation there is. The dots are color coded by country and there is a map in the lower panel.

    https://www.gisaid.org/epiflu-applications/next-hcov-19-app/

    Maybe try to learn something about what you are talking about before characterizing others as “dumb”? Otherwise it just looks like projection.

    • Replies: @Brás Cubas
  74. A new organization had recently taken out a full-page ad in the New York Times that denounced these latter notions in very strong terms, claiming that such ideas were almost as dangerous as the virus itself and spread as rapidly, therefore demanding that they be banned by the leading social networks.

    That organization is Avaaz.org. Its website’s “About Us” page quotes The Guardian as saying “Avaaz is only five years old, but has exploded to become the globe’s largest and most powerful online activist network.” The page continues with nauseating drivel about its “ethic of servant leadership” and how it is funded by its members.

    The reality is a bit different. According to https://www.ngo-monitor.org/ngos/avaaz/ it was founded in

    2007 by “Res Publica, a global civic advocacy group, and Moveon.org,” a George Soros-funded organization involved in ideological and political campaigns in the United States.

    They’ve seen the future of alternative media and political activism, and unfortunately it is not ourselves.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  75. Coincidentally, Antonia Staats is employed by avaaz.org. She is the woman whose lockdown-breaking visits to Neil Ferguson forced his resignation as a government advisor.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8293057/How-Neil-Fergusons-married-lover-enjoys-perfect-family-life.html

  76. Hibernian says:
    @Morton's toes

    I was briefly trained in this type of analysis in the service. It’s common sense and shows up in cop shows such as Law and Order and NCIS. Guilt by association is unjust; suspicion by association is necessary to catch wrongdoers. If there’s a convicted drug dealer recently released from prison who has gone back to drug dealer behavior, hanging out in drug areas, etc., the people who call him on the phone often are rightly suspected of being his customers or suppliers. Arrest and conviction rightly require real evidence. Zuckerberg is a monopolist who has power approaching that of the head of a government agency. There’s a need for a competing social network which doesn’t practice censorship except when outright calls for the violent overthrow of the government or hard core pornography are involved.

    • Replies: @sarz
  77. Nate_K says:
    @Realist

    Zuckerberg is a Jew that, probably, does not share your attitude toward Jews.

    Weirdly enough I don’t think this is the issue, rather he just wants to avoid bad press in the media about spreading corona “conspiracy theories” and “hate speech”, I geniuely think that if he had his way almost everything would be allowed on facebook- more users, more dollars.

    • Agree: Usura
    • Replies: @Realist
  78. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    No sympathy. Conservative losers are greedy individualists who only care when things personally effect their pocketbooks or their ability to go out to a restaurant and stuff their faces with hamburgers. They knew about censorship since 2016 at least and did nothing about it. They’re getting what they deserve. I hope Google follows up by banning more of them from their search listings. Twitter, too. Why wouldn’t they? Conservatives won’t care. They’re too busy celebrating the return of grilling season as maybe another 100k people die by August. Losers.

    • Replies: @lysias
  79. @Jake

    Many necessary observations of extremely harsh truths here, Jake, so much so that the punch line was only tangentially skimmed and not expressly stated:

    Globalist Totalitarianism – which could make the USSR at its worst seem almost pastoral – intends to murder all populist opposition.

    Expressing the punch line:

    Globalist Totalitarianism is a Jew initiative being executed by Jews aided by (((their))) shabby goyim who are either Jew-duped Golem or Jews’ hirelings.

  80. Jake says:
    @Jett Rucker

    Harvey doth protest way too much.

  81. Jake says:
    @Ron Unz

    As I say when looking at the insoluble problems of black (Bantu) run cities and nations: it is virtually impossible to separate the incompetence and laziness from the corruption. They feed one another.

  82. anon[191] • Disclaimer says:

    “Facebook surely invests substantial resources in policing its content, which their report claims is performed by a team of more than 200 professionals.”

    “Professionals” in what? A degree in Internet Policing obtained from the ADL university? To get such a job at Facebook, males would just be required to have a Manbun with a Hipster beard and wear skinny jeans at all times with a letter of recommendation from their previous job as a Barista at Starbucks. Females would be required to have a tattoo on their arms that says, “Stop Hate” and the same letter of recommendation from Starbucks.

  83. lysias says:
    @anon

    Anybody who uses the word “loser” as a term of abuse exposes himself as a vulgar materialist.

  84. Anon[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @utu

    Read/scrolled through it. Wish he’d spent more time analyzing possible drugs/treatments or specified the peptid the Chinese are looking into.

  85. Iris says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    The other gatekeeper website Twitter is also up in arms against non-conventional Covid-19 discussions, so you must be right.

    Twitter anoints itself arbiter of coronavirus truth with pledge to label even ‘disputed’ & ‘unverified’ claims as disinfo

    https://www.rt.com/usa/488399-twitter-coronavirus-misleading-unverified-truth/

  86. trelane says:

    Facebook traffic, large as it may be, is low quality traffic.

  87. JasonT says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    ” So why weaponize something like that?”

    To provide the context for a fearmongering campaign to implement lockdowns, transfer the wealth and control of entire nations to a few well-healed and to provide the environment for totalitarian control over the populations of those nations – without actually making it dangerous for those who benefit from the lockdowns, wealth transfer and control.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
    , @Paul C.
  88. Biff says:
    @AnonFromTN

    What else is new? Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, Wiki, NYT, WaPo, The Guardian, CNN, State Department, CIA, MI6, and many others of their ilk are run by the same forces that promote their propaganda lies and are never interested in truth.

    Lies and truth are not collectively as important as being able to control the narrative at all times. Bans and purges with accusations of “fake news” are acts of desperation to get back in control of the narrative, and I got a hard whiff of that desperation the day Donald Trump was elected president, and again as the pandemic began to grip America. Desperado would be the song to sing as they turn you into a blank slate.

    The mainstream media institutions are now on the ropes with viewership dwindling and credibility shot due to the promotion of neocon lies – even dumb Americans have bullshit limitations. This makes the empire scared and nervous, and ultimately, unpredictable.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  89. swamped says:

    “After all, in many other parts of the world or historical eras, a midnight raid by the secret police and a one-way ticket to the Gulag would have been the likely response to my provocative writings”…such as in totalitarian China where UR is also banned on FB de facto because all Facebook is banned in China, along with many other web media & services, at the whim of the Chinese despots – & with no oversight board to get in touch with to “ajudicate” any differences. But maybe UR can continue to propagandize on behalf of the CCP censors by humbly beseeching them for inclusion on Sina Weibo where conspiracy theories about the American deep state shooting itself in both feet in a cockamaney conspiracy to bioweapon China are always appreciated. Funny how fellow travelers of the CCP in America are so quick to boil over at censorship by American media giants – & rightly so – but remain unperturbed by blatant Chinese state censorship. There’s certainly plenty to hate about the American deep state but if they want to bring down the hateful CCP, then that’s at least one thing in their favor & with to wish them luck.

    • Replies: @denk
  90. SteveK9 says:

    Ron, I think you went completely off the rails on the epidemic (even Putin has done that). But, I’ve really enjoyed your page for the past few years. I intend to keep reading it here. I think I created a Facebook page years ago, because I wanted to comment somewhere, but I’ve never looked at it, or been on Facebook at all. Now, that I see they are heavily censoring content, I don’t plan to begin.

    Here’s a recent example: 21st Century Wire had linked to a video on Facebook, of a Police Officer decrying the use of force to limit citizens personal liberty. No curse words, nothing, just a reasonable understanding of the US Constitution, and his own opinion of the negative effect this would have on our society and the wrongness of these actions. Went back a few days later, and found it was removed for violating community standards!!

    If something like that can be banned, I think we need an alternative to Facebook. You seem to agree that some censorship should be tolerated. Is that right? I don’t want anything censored. I can make up my own mind whether something makes sense, is likely to be true, is of interest … or not.

    Forget them. I don’t think you should go begging to be let back in, but of course that is your decision entirely.

  91. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    I was impressed with Yuri Deigin’s analysis: “Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research.”

    Well, I read through the very long 16,000 word article, and looked at the many dozens of complex charts and graphs. Offhand, the analysis seems reasonably persuasive that Covid-19 could very plausibly have been bioengineered in a lab despite the opposite claims of that article in Nature. But this exactly highlights the reasons I tend not to pay much attention to these complex and conflicting scientific arguments.

    (1) I don’t have a sliver of the necessary expertise in microbiology or virology to evaluate these claims. All the dozens of complex charts and graphs are just colorful pictures to me. Would a real expert accept the author’s analysis? Maybe, maybe not.

    (2) Even aside from the analysis, I can’t possibly check all the dozens of sources he cites. Are they correct or misleading? If some of his charts and graphs were straight-out fabricated, how would I ever know?

    (3) The current dispute over Covid-19 involves at least two very scientifically advanced nations (US and China), many trillions of dollars in economic damage and potential claims, and quite possibly one or more intelligence agencies. Trillions of dollars is a pretty strong incentive for fabricating all sorts of data and hiring people to write very long and seemingly persuasive scientific articles.

    (4) If the author of the article were a top professor at an elite university, I’d tend to take him more seriously since he would have a personal reputation to protect. But as far as I can tell, he’s a fairly young gerontology blogger. That doesn’t mean he’s wrong, but it also raises the possibility that someone put him up to it, especially since it seems to point the finger of suspicion towards a leak at the Wuhan lab. Maybe he’s just a very sharp young guy who got so tremendously interested in the subject that he did the massive personal research needed to produce a 16,000 word article…but maybe not.

    (5) My assumption all along has been the US, China, Israel, and various other nations probably all have secret biowarfare programs going, and I’ve seen claims that bat viruses are supposedly among the most popular.

    (6) I’ve never had a strong opinion one way or the other about whether Covid-19 might have been bioengineered. Various people, many of whom have far more expertise than myself, have taken strong positions on one side or the other, and I can’t properly weigh their arguments. Instead, I focus on those items that I can more easily evaluate.

    Suppose, for example, that the cautiously implied hypothesis of the 16,000 word article is correct, and Covid-19 was bioengineered in the Wuhan lab and then somehow accidentally released in a leak. How would that explain the following three issues?

    (1) The Iranian political elites on the other side of the world were among the earliest casualties, the only political elites anywhere to have yet suffered fatalities.

    (2) The Covid-19 outbreak in Wuhan occurred at the worst possible time for China, shortly before the massive Lunar New Year travels. Obviously, an accidental leak would be at a random time of year.

    (3) Our DIA reported the existence of a “cataclysmic” disease outbreak in Wuhan well over a month before anyone in China was apparently aware of it.

    Suppose the Gambinos in NYC were in the middle of a bloody gang-war against the Bonnanos and the Colombos, and on Tuesday night the police found the bodies of a Bonnano capo and a Colombo capo, both shot to death. Perhaps an extremely technical 16,000 word analysis of the autopsy and bullet wounds would completely change our assumptions of what likely happened…but probably not!

    In some ways, this sort of ultra-technical analysis reminds me of the way some JFK Assassination researchers or 9/11 Truthers have devoted extraordinary time and effort to the most complex technical issues in those events instead of stepping back and focusing on the bigger picture, which I believe is much more important.

    • Thanks: utu
  92. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    You can post an unz.com address to Facebook as follows:

    Replace

    unz.com/X

    with

    unz%2Ecom/X
    (Copy-paste into your browser. Facebook doesn’t allow a direct link to websites it deems too controversial.)

    whatever X is.

    It works because %2E is the hexidecimal code for period and all browsers recognize it as such. But Facebook won’t recognize the line as a website address.

    (At least until the people who run Facebook figure out what’s going on.)

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  93. @Biff

    There is something in that. Cornered rat is dangerous.

  94. ‘… If Americans began to suspect that this unimaginable national disaster…’

    It’s…it’s as bad as the 2017-2018 flu season.

    We all remember how that wracked America. how we found it necessary to impose a totalitarian regime and artificially force the nation into a major depression.

    Or have we forgotten already? Are people going to claim that didn’t happen?

    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Alden
  95. @Brás Cubas

    An afterthought.

    Although I showed that Ron Unz is wrong in stating that Facebook is hiding the Covid-19 conspiracies factor to his having been banned, it’s obvious that Facebook is not being honest in their explanation of motives. Let’s look at that sentence again:

    Most recently, this network shared COVID-19-related conspiracies and hate speech about Asian Americans.

    So, let’s say that Ron Unz writes an article about a COVID-19 conspiracy and Steve Sailer writes a post ridiculing the anti-white animus in a New York Times op-ed written by an Asian-American woman. That would give that quoted sentence a semblance of truth, but a specialist in discourse analysis would easily notice that the message that they are trying to pass here is entirely different. Anyone who reads that sentence will immediately associate “COVID-19 related conspiracies” and “hate speech about Asian Americans”, and, without having read any article on this website dealing with COVID-19 or with Asian-Americans, would probably conclude that this website specializes in theories accusing China of being responsible for COVID-19 or for the virus, or something along those lines, even though that kind of theory is not advanced by Ron Unz or, to my knowledge, in any article published on this website.

    The only question for me is: who are they trying to fool?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  96. A couple of days ago Facebook announced its new “oversight board” to adjudicate these sorts of matters, so I suppose I will try to get in touch with them to clarify this issue.

    I doubt Alan Rusbridger and will lend a sympathetic ear. The Brits have little interest in free speech and the Jew and black stuff at UR is just the kind of speech they eagerly smother. Writers like Paul Kersey and Striker would probably be banned from even visiting the UK.

  97. @Brás Cubas

    ‘…The only question for me is: who are they trying to fool?’

    If they were honest, they’d say ‘people pressured us to ban Unz Review, so we banned Unz Review.’ Per se, they could care less what’s on the site. No pressure: no ban. Pressure: ban.

    Unz Review could concern itself with adorable kittens and how to make them happy. The only difference that would make is that Facebook would really have to dig to come up with a pretext to ban the site.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  98. Iris says:
    @Ron Unz

    but it also raises the possibility that someone put him up to it, especially since it seems to point the finger of suspicion towards a leak at the Wuhan lab

    Of all the possible sources of the virus, the Wuhan lab option is one of the most implausible for the following reason:

    The phylogenetic tracing of the SARS-CoV-2 virus carried out by the Cambridge geneticist showed that its ancestor form (Strain A) was present in only two samples taken in Wuhan, while it was found in larger numbers in other Chinese locations (Shanghai, Hangzhou, Guangzhou) as well as in Taiwan, the US, Australia and Belgium.

    https://www.fluxus-technology.com/cov2020.htm

    Then this ancestor Strain A generated Strain B, which caused the bulk of the Wuhan outbreak and finally got authorities to realise that a new virus had appeared.

    So the virus, allegedly leaked from Wuhan lab under Strain A, would have travelled all over China and to 3 other continents, but of all places it was proven to have existed, it would have chosen precisely Wuhan to mutate under a more active and deadly form? How likely is that?

    This hypothesis would have some plausibility only if Wuhan presented a zootic environment somehow favorable to coronavirus’ mutations. But we know this is not even true, as the preferred bat hosts inhabit the Southern part of China.

    The possibility of a virus leaking from a Wuhan lab, then spreading all over the world, to finally mutate into a more transmissible and deadlier form in Wuhan precisely, of all places, seems extremely implausible and far-fetched.

    To use the gangster analogy, if a crime boss had, unbeknownst to anybody, fathered criminal sons over 4 continents, what would be the likelihood of one of the unaware criminal grandsons to come back and establish a large crime syndicate in his grand-father turf, of all places?

    Nobody rational can believe in such a coincidence, that BOTH the accidental initial release AND deadly mutation happened in the same place just by chance. Most likely, the Wuhan Lab played no role whatsoever in the pandemic.

  99. Thomasina says:
    @Anon

    I remember her, although I wish I didn’t.

    “On December 4, 2019, Karlan—alongside law professors Noah Feldman, Michael Gerhardt, and Jonathan Turley—testified before the House Judiciary Committee regarding the constitutional grounds for presidential impeachment in the Impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump.”

    Jonathan Turley was the only one who made any sense and he argued successfully against the other three on the Left. Karlan definitely has an agenda.

    Time for someone to seriously challenge Facebook.

  100. Daniel H says:

    Related: This comment, to a friend’s post, just got me a 30 day ban from Facebook. Damn, I was hoping for a 6 month ban.

    For a while I thought that this tranny nonsense may recede into the background now that we have real, important matters to deal with, but no. These narcissists will find a way to promote themselves no matter.

  101. MrTea says:

    Reminds me of the Congressional hearing I was watching on C-Span with the Facebook execs along with the other Web Bigs. House member Max Rose D-NY (notable as both a Afghan war vet and Jewish) listened to Facebook frontgal dissemble regarding her unctuous efforts to eliminate “extremist” elements and then held up his smartphone, loaded with the Facebook page for:

    Al Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula.

  102. @andwat

    Ditto. Frankly, the Facebook icon was my ‘proof’ that this site is a limited hangout. Unz got rid of a parasite….

  103. @davidgmillsatty

    My point has always been that Covid is contagious but not very deadly. So why weaponize something like that?

    This has been answered many times (in this thread, and elsewhere).

    It’s analogous to why wounding an enemy is tactically more useful than killing an enemy; enemy wounded tie up enemy resources (platoon mates prior to evac; the evac resource; treatment resources) and have negative effects on enemy morale. A gut-shot comrade in excruciating pain awaiting medevac does bad things to his unit morale.

    A good rule of thumb is that each enemy wounded takes enemy 8 personnel out of play (temporarily). In a very real sense it’s bad tactics to shoot to kill, if you’re involved in a standard infantry engagement. (This is why Blitzkrieg worked so well… armour breaks the enemy defensive line at speed, leaving large numbers of wounded enemy defenders in its wake).

    Having a low-lethality but quite contagious pathogen is much more useful tactically than, say, Ebola.

    A weaksauce pathogen like SARS-nCoV-2 generates large numbers of not-very-sick people – but more than enough tie up health infrastructure and generate widespread civilian panic. The political class will then flail around doing fuckwitted shit; civilian morale will be degraded; industrial activity will crater.

    This is kind of the lewisite and/or sulphur mustard model: exposure to those can be fatal, but the real benefit (as a weapon) is that it injures people badly enough to take them out of action. Contrast that with VX or Sarin, which are more reliably lethal.

  104. sarz says:
    @AnonFromTN

    I have the Yandex browser because it’s Russian and I thought their search engine would be a good alternative to Google and Bing. But it’s not that different. The one that I am haopy to have discovered recently is https://www.startpage.com/. A lot of the politically sensitive stuff that the going search engines have carefully buried shows up on the first page.

  105. @Mark Hunter

    tinyURL (free); ow.ly (free*); bit.ly ($) and other URL shorteners work fine too.

    I just posted a bitly link to an UR page, on my own FB ‘wall’ – it appears to have worked. It probably shocked the monitoring algorithm; my FB account exists solely to prevent ID theft, and the last time I used it was in 2017 to try and find a lost cat.

    https://bit.ly/2SYXufJ (the story about the Slovenian antibody test)

    Ron could use the bitly API and add a ‘copy short link’ button to each article.

    It would take some time before FB’s Grand inquisitors discovered it, even if he only used bitly.

    There are also ‘self-hosted’ ways to generate your own shortlinks (e.g., https://shlink.io/ ) instead of using subscription APIs – but that would require owning a separate domain for the shortlinks (unz.com is plenty short enough but of limited usefulness in trying to avoid the scrutineers).

    * ow.ly is free unlimited shortlinks, but has no API and requires a Hootsuite account. From memory there’s a Python way to automate it without the API; I’ll look tomorrow.

    • Thanks: Mark Hunter
    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  106. Renoman says:

    That’s what you get for being the best and telling the truth. Sure sign that you are right over the target.

  107. sarz says:
    @Hibernian

    There’s a need for a competing social network which doesn’t practice censorship except when outright calls for the violent overthrow of the government or hard core pornography are involved.

    There already is one. Of course it is not American or part of the West (minus Iceland). It’s Russian, so it comes with some protection from forces of the empire. And it already has a hundred million users. It makes no bones about being a clone of Facebook. You can even log in with your Facebook or Google ID.

    vk.com

    • Replies: @SINCERITY.net
  108. @Ron Unz

    Fair enough. But from where I sit, it seems that the bulk of the economic damage was done by the lockdown, rather than the virus. There was no need for the government to overreact; they chose to do that. The Chinese, as I recall, only locked down one of their 34 provinces, not the entire country. Sweden, Iceland and Japan have placed only minimal limitations on public commerce, while Belarus does not seem to have imposed any at all–in fact, they just had their annual VE parade a few days, as they do every year. Yet none of these countries seem to have fared much worse than the rest.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  109. Bumpkin says:

    Honestly, this site should just lean into it, though I don’t blame Ron for giving it one last shot given their flimsy excuse. Once they stonewall you or continue with the dumb excuses, I’d just put prominent notices saying “Banned by Facebook” on this site and other social media like twitter, and attract the many people for whom that’s a positive, like me. I’ve never had a FB account and have been warning people for a decade that it was sure to have serious privacy breaches and scandals, all of which came true over the last couple years.

    I stopped frequenting any legacy MSM sites many years back and Unz has become a daily visit for me since last year. You already have a critical mass of readers like me sharing links to posts from here on other sites we frequent. I found this site because of a link in a comment from an economics blog I read.

    This could be a Streisand moment for this site, my advice is to use this ban for all it’s worth.

  110. Ron Unz says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    There was no need for the government to overreact; they chose to do that. The Chinese, as I recall, only locked down one of their 34 provinces, not the entire country.

    I don’t think that’s correct. From everything I’ve read, the Chinese locked down over 700 million(!) of their citizens, involving every city in their entire country. As I’ve repeated said, the Chinese effort was probably 1000x larger than the largest medical quarantine in human history. It got huge international coverage at the time, proving that either the Chinese government had gone totally insane or they felt they were confronting a mysterious and extremely dangerous new disease.

    And their lock downs were far more severe than anything we’ve done in the US. For that reason, they worked, and almost totally stamped out Covid-19 in China. I think the lockdown in most of the country only lasted a couple of weeks, and they’ve now been able to reopen Wuhan itself to almost totally normally life.

    Meanwhile, our half-hearted lockdowns haven’t worked, and millions of Americans are now infected. Personally, I think the plans to reopen the economy now are likely to be disastrous, but I suppose we’ll find out soon enough. When you have a highly-contagious disease with a 0.5%-1% death rate, and it spreads throughout your country, you end up with a lot of deaths.

    Incidentally, you might want to take a look at this somewhat related piece of mine from a few years ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/chinese-melamine-and-american-vioxx-a-comparison/

  111. K9, above, has it right. This page went completely off the rails regarding covid.

    Suddenly Ron Unz, in his American Pravda column no less, was telling us he trusts the statistics and the pandemic explanations our mainstream media – our big pharma-owned mainstream media – are offering us. He takes not a glance at regulatory capture, he wonders not at all why our mainstream media are unanimously embracing fear, he asks for not a single autopsy finding with pathology report, and, in an era when chronic childhood illness has spiked in lockstep with the expansion of the CDC’s childhood vaccination schedule, he ponders not for a second the openly stated goal, among globalist institutions to which even Dr. Fauci belongs, of bringing about compulsory adult vaccination.

    Suddenly it’s as if yellowcake, the babies in their incubators, the cavemen with box cutters, the magic bullet, the Russia Collusion, and Vioxx had never existed.

    • Agree: AnonAnon, TheTrumanShow
  112. @sarz

    Your comment couldn’t be shared because this link goes against our Community standards
    Facebook now enforces their community censorship standards upon the entire Internet Universe. Though shalt not link to undesirable web sites. “Your comment couldn’t be shared …Read More »
    Here is our take
    http://sincerity.net/fb-forbids-links/
    I second the suggestion to meet at vk dot com, a very vibrant community

  113. Vinnie O says:
    @Anon

    Um, I have only ever known a few Secrets, but a retired Navy captain I worked with helpfully pointed out that if a piece of information (e.g., the top speed of a US Navy ship) was USED IN DEFENSE PLANNING, then that information was CLASSIFIED, and probably SECRET. You can of course publish EXACTLY THE SAME information if you cite a non-DoD source (Jane’s Fighting Ships). So some of this nonsense is merely a game played by bureaucrats. But demanding that a piece of information that has ALREADY appeared in an unclassified source be REMOVED pretty much CONFIRMS THE ACCURACY of the info. That is to say, you just AIN’T gonna get it back in Pandora’s box.

  114. anon[294] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @Harvey

    UNZ please start a class-action suit against FAANG for breach of contract: Failing to be a neutral publisher and carrier as represented or implied.

  115. “Revealed: Facebook’s CIA connections …” stpaulsresearch.com . Isn’t Facebook a quasi-governmental agency which was financed by In-Q-Tel, a venture capital firm linked to the CIA ? As such it is not a private company and could be sued for violating the 1st Amendment . Doesn’t Facebook share personal information about its users with intelligence agencies ?

  116. Please note the following revision to your facebook community standards:

    Footnote 62 to § 1248, ¶ 6.2.1 is revised to read: “hate speech,” [INSERT] “or ratting out CIA for shooting JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, Walter Reuther, John Lennon, Ronald Reagan, Robert Vance, Gary Webb, Paul Wellstone, and Seth Rich, or for blowing up OKC, the Pentagon, the WTC twice, and the Boston Marathon, for infecting us with anthrax, for torturing people at industrial scale, or for controlling facebook with hi-res video of Zuck high on BZ bonking toddlers on David Copperfield’s magic island.”

    Thank you for making facebook a welcoming environment for all!

    Yael Glavlit, Senior Content Associate, facebook

    • Replies: @Old Jew
  117. @Realist

    Complain if you want about Zuck, and I use no FB products, but he is apparently a first-class coder and has built a culture around it. For an amusing and thoroughly engaging view inside FB, I’ve found no better book than Chaos Monkeys. There’s a fascinating view in there of the plan to sell “quanta” of your attention to advertisers. The tech is designed to keep you isolated and frazzled for the ends of selling your mind to advertisers.

  118. @sarz

    Thanks, will try.

    In my experience, Yandex found many sites that Google intentionally did not find. The fact that Wiki often comes on top of Google searches is a fair warning: birds of a feather stick together. In any case, unaffiliated brother is better than an affiliated one, no matter with whom.

  119. @Harvey

    “Why are you throwing Vdare under the bus? We must hang together or we will be hung separately.”

    It’s elementary, my dear Watson: Unz is for open borders, but not enough to suit the Chinese overlords who control Facebook and Twitter and Google and YouTube.

    • Replies: @sally
  120. @sarz

    That search engine does not seem any better than Google. I did a test search with “Donetsk people’s republic” and the first three hits are lying Wiki. Will keep looking for a better search engine.

  121. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey AnonfromTN,

    Try

    https://metager.de/
    (with useful proxy that works around Tor harassment)

    http://z5vawdol25vrmorm4yydmohsd4u6rdoj2sylvoi3e3nqvxkvpqul7bqd.onion/
    (one of many instances, you just need Tor Browser Bundle)

    https://lite.qwant.com/

    None of them are perfect but you get a wider variety of hits when you let 1000 flowers bloom. Polymath fund manager John Hussman points out that there’s no barrier to entry protecting google’s search monopoly. You or I could set up the sparse-matrix manipulation procs with open-source tools. Key is to support everybody except InqTel’s spy google.

  122. @davidgmillsatty

    I think this was addressed very well by oldmicrobiologist. The article where Ron put together out of his comments on the saker. Still here on unz.

    Super contagious but not super deadly is the perfect weapon if you want to do economic damage and not to kill a lot of people. Cause if it is also super deadly, nukes would have flown and we would not be here already.

    The other important bit he mentioned was that China also has an offensive bio program.

    Scary right?

  123. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    … they [China’s severe lockdowns] worked, and almost totally stamped out Covid-19 in China.

    That may be what China’s government says but is it really true? The following is from  “Coronavirus Missives from Japan and the US”  by Linh Dinh dated a few days ago (May 8, 2020):

    The Chinese have been very dishonest about the state of Corona Virus in their country. They never did get it under any kind of control, they just pretended to for business reasons. Now it is in Beijing. They too are facing collapse of present society.

    He doesn’t say how he knows this.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  124. Ron Unz says:
    @Mark Hunter

    That may be what China’s government says but is it really true?

    Well, maybe Covid-19 isn’t really contagious and everything we read in the MSM is just a hoax. But otherwise, China has now almost fully reopened all of their cities, including Wuhan, and crowds are now even back at their Disneyland. So if they’re lying and the virus is still fairly widespread in their country, that would be a remarkably stupid thing to do, and we’ll soon see just how remarkably stupid.

    Since you seem a rather diehard “China skeptic,” you might want to read a couple of my old articles on the subject, as well as my most recent one, if you haven’t already done so:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/chinas-rise-americas-fall/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/chinese-melamine-and-american-vioxx-a-comparison/

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

  125. SafeNow says:

    I will propound yet another banning theory. The hallmark of Ron Unz himself, and also of the other essayists, is writing an essay that is fastidious, thoughtful, and lengthy. Readers here tend to possess the intellect, sensibility, and attention span to deal with, and enjoy, the complexity of such an essay, and also the complexity and variety of the commentary. In contrast, the mainstream online media, such as Twitter and Facebook, are dependent upon simplified slogans and brief talking points.

    And now a related Covid theory. If Covid originated from an accidental spill at a lab, the reason might have been a lack of attention span to deal with safety protocols. It is worth remembering that the problem with infections caused by the use of contaminated endoscopes turned out not to have been their design; rather, it was the difficulty of finding people with the attention span to clean them properly. Similarly, the process of donning and then removing an ebola suit required the use of a “buddy” so that multiple people could redundantly preside over safety protocols. Perhaps the ultimate cause of Covid was the smartphone-generated, media-generated, attention span.

  126. @Ron Unz

    Call me Pollyanna but do you really think that morally Americans any Americans would engage in Bio warfare with the intent on killing Chinese and Iranians? I have never seen that strain in either the military or the intelligence community. The same is true of the mass murder in 9/11. Just does not seem possible that Americans or Israelis would commit mass murder for some nefarious war jingo.
    Do you personally know any Americans capable of that? Would you ever be involved in mass murder or bio warfare?

  127. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    Any statement from the Chinese government should be viewed with suspicion and likewise any statement from the U.S. government. We need to “go into the field” and see for ourselves – or through a reliable reporter – what is really true.

    Linh Dinh claims that the picture in China is not as rosy as some believe. He doesn’t say how he knows this but because of his wide travels presumably he has some, to him, firsthand accounts. Then there are the news reports you mention, so what to believe?

    It would be hard for China to get away with lying about reopening its cities, and if what Dinh says is true that will lead to mass contagion. As you say, we will soon find out.

    I had read with pleasure and appreciation the three articles you referenced.

    • Replies: @lysias
  128. lysias says:
    @Mark Hunter

    About a month ago, the day before the Chinese government expelled the Washington Post’s reporter in Peking for what that government alleged to be unfriendly coverage, a report by that reporter appeared in the Washington Post. He reported that Peking had largely reopened and that he had just eaten at a restaurant there.

  129. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    It may owe more to Google search algorithm than Facebook.

    Unz on Facebook had less than 7,000 subscribers.

    I had a site that got over 2,000 visits daily.

    One day, I posted something ‘controversial’, and the site’s been getting 20 viewers a day.

    Google plays god with search monopoly.

  130. @Fran Taubman

    Read  Unfriendly Skies  and  Defrauding America  by the late Rodney Stich and you will understand how evil the “powers that be” can be.

  131. @Fran Taubman

    Do you personally know any Americans capable of that?

    I know that every US president I remember is guilty of mass murder, on the scale from hundreds of thousands to millions. None of them killed the victims personally: American war machine executed criminal orders.

    Same goes for Israel. Every prime minister in living memory is a war criminal. The numbers of victims are smaller, mostly in the thousands. Not because of their moral rectitude, but because of their more limited criminal capabilities.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
  132. You can understand the sensitivity of this particular topic. COVID-19 is the USA’s Chernobyl. The USA needs to be destroyed like the USSR – shred it into a thousand pieces (or at least six) and scatter it to the four winds. Exterminate the apparatchiks and ship their children to re-education camps. The US government’s a cancer on a perfectly good land mass. If there were any remaining halfwits who couldn’t grasp that, now even they caught on.

    The kleptocracy hopes to keep all the facebook lumpenproles busy trying to vote their way out of this, so the built-in futility of this fake democracy can save them. For that to work they can’t let you know that CIA infected you in America, pulled the deadliest strains out of your family’s corpses, and sprayed them on China in a sneak attack.

    China and Russia are the good guys. CIA’s the Nazis. Nuke their timmie coward balls and we’ll strew flowers and sweets.

  133. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @sarz

    I have the Yandex browser because it’s Russian and I thought their search engine would be a good alternative to Google and Bing. But it’s not that different. The one that I am haopy to have discovered recently is https://www.startpage.com/. A lot of the politically sensitive stuff that the going search engines have carefully buried shows up on the first page.

    I’m not clear on just what constitutes “politically sensitive stuff,” but if you scroll down on the Startpage search page and look under the heading, “How we made search private,” you will find the following:

    You can’t beat Google when it comes to online search. So we’re paying them to use their brilliant search results in order to remove all trackers and logs. The result: The world’s best and most private search engine.

    Given the above, Startpage displaying different search results than Google would not make sense at first glance. Am I missing something?

    • Replies: @sarz
  134. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @TomSchmidt

    There’s a fascinating view in there of the plan to sell “quanta” of your attention to advertisers. The tech is designed to keep you isolated and frazzled for the ends of selling your mind to advertisers.

    I seem to recall that zuckerberg was a double major: computer science and psychology.

    (Is that correct?)

    zuckerbook is, for me at least, far more a testament to zuckerberg’s understanding of human psychology than a tribute to his coding abilities

  135. @Ron Unz

    You’re absolutely correct on this – would be very weird if China had a raging pandemic, but all the international spread from March was coming from Italy and later on from the US and other European states. (A minor outbreak, since suppressed, was imported into Harbin from Russia).

    There’s recently been a second surge in Wuhan, so the Chinese are now rolling out ten million tests over the next ten days. That’s as many tests as the US has performed to date. Truly remarkable example of Sinotriumphalism and the extent to which Chinese state capacity seems to now outmatch that of the US or pretty much any other Western country.

  136. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    There’s recently been a second surge in Wuhan, so the Chinese are now rolling out ten million tests over the next ten days. That’s as many tests as the US has performed to date.

    Are the Chinese tests more accurate than the American ones?

    If they are of the same +/- 30% variety as the American tests purportedly are, the results they obtain are not going to mean very much.

  137. @Anatoly Karlin

    Graphica is an interesting company. They specialize in recognizing patterns in communications.

    https://www.graphika.com/reports

    https://www.graphika.com/case-studies

    Partners include DARPA, the Knight Foundation, The US Senate Select Committee on Intelligemce, and the Minerva Initiative of the DOD.

    Speaking of companies – it appears that the group of doctors who took out the ad in the NYT that Ron cited was formed on or through Avaaz. That organization was formed in 2007 by a collaboration of ResPublica and MoveOn, according to their Wikipedia page.

  138. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    I’m not a diehard China skeptic but I do hate totalitarianism. Instead of succumbing to martial law or waiting for a dangerous rushed-to-market vaccine (see Paul Craig Roberts on that), concentrate on curing, or ameliorating the effects of, the disease.

    Faucci and co-conspirators should be tried for murder for willfully ignoring strong evidence that  Zinc (e.g. Zinc Sulfate)  +  Hydroxychloroquine  +  Vitamin D  +  Vitamin C  cure the disease.

    About the first two see this.

    About the first see this and this.

    About the third and fourth see this.  They also recommend anti-inflammatories.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Biff
  139. @Ron Unz

    Since the Covid-19 fatality rate is only 0.5%-1%, it certainly is useless as an anti-personnel bioweapon. However, it’s very effective at severely damaging an economy, as America has now discovered to its great misfortune.

    Agreed. However, if the virus were created as a bioweapon, the only way to determine whether it had “useful” levels of contagion and fatality would be to test it on large numbers of humans. The danger to the weapon creator is that one or more of the surviving experimental subjects would talk.

    It seems more likely that, even if the virus were manufactured, its properties are the result of chance. We’ve been lucky – not as lucky as we were with SARS or Swine Flu, but still lucky not to be dealing with a viral plague.

  140. Jaylonw says:
    @Realist

    A friend of mine was banned from Quora for posting a link from UR as well.

  141. @Ron Unz

    I don’t have a sliver of the necessary expertise in microbiology or virology to evaluate these claims. All the dozens of complex charts and graphs are just colorful pictures to me.

    Some of the information does not need expert knowledge. The description of the differences between SARS-CoV2 and the bat viruses, in terms of DNA base pairs and amino acids is comprehensible. The assertion that such modifications both occur naturally, and are routinely engineered in the lab, is something that most scientists have been afraid to make clear.

    Would a real expert accept the author’s analysis? Maybe, maybe not.

    We’ll have to wait and see what the reaction is to the article. In this case, silence gives consent. If for example the relevant genetic engineering steps are rarely attempted in the lab, or face technical challenges not mentioned in the article, then one of the prominent scientists who say the virus must be natural will step up and make sure we hear about it. I’m waiting …

    The article’s sting is in its tail. The author concludes:

    I hope this post is not used to prematurely assign blame or propagate one-sided theories. What I do hope it highlights is the scale of dangerous gain-of-function research that has been and is going on in virology. The Covid-19 pandemic really exposed its huge risks in the face of few benefits: GOF research hasn’t protected us from this outbreak, hasn’t provided us with any effective treatments or vaccines in time to save hundreds of thousands of lives lost to CoV2, and if there is even a 0.1% chance GOF research caused the whole thing, that chance is too high.

    Who can disagree?

    Just before this conclusion, he quotes the virologist Ralph Baric who said that no animal reservoir species for SARS-CoV2 has been identified. It’s not bats, and it’s not pangolins – the viruses in these species differ too much from SARS-CoV2. Perhaps the animal reservoir will be discovered later. Or perhaps there isn’t one because the virus was made in a lab. Once again, the responses of prominent scientists to these claims will be of interest, and once again their silence will imply agreement.

  142. SafeNow says:
    @AnonFromTN

    Regarding whether American rulers are capable of mass murder, I will repeat what I once posted about the psychological phenomenon known as the “Abilene Paradox.” This groupthink-type mechanism is the mechanism whereby a group takes a preposterous action, while at the same time no individual member advocating the action privately believes that it should be done. This is taught in business schools; it is a real thing.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  143. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    Not to dissuade you – what you’re doing is the only thing worth doing in this 3rd-world US shithole – but censorship is only the first line of defense, when you step on CIA’s toes. This by Catherine Austin Fitts shows what happens to you when you notice that your country is ruled by a criminal enterprise.

    https://dillonreadandco.com/table-of-contents/

    If CIA can’t silence you – and they can’t, people will just abandon facebook for the authoritative source – they will

  144. @Fran Taubman

    Isn’t Julian Assange locked up because he showed the world the US military’s culture of mass murdering psychopathy?

    • Agree: Ann Nonny Mouse
  145. Exile says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The residents of New York City, Palestine, Germany, Japan, Italy, Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Korea, China, Cambodia, Laos, the Philippines, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Columbia, El Salvador, Vietnam, Kuwait, Lebanon, Panama, Yugoslavia, Somalia, Russia, Ukraine and Venezuela, among many others, disagree.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  146. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Just does not seem possible that Americans or Israelis would commit mass murder for some nefarious war jingo.

    If you have ever wondered about the exact regard in which your own government holds you, read the book Raven Rock by Garrett M. Graff.

    The book focusses on how all the Civil Defense business that the American government pushed for nearly half a century was pure propaganda, because that’s all the CD authorities could afford: the bulk of the money was spent on continuity of government, not American citizen survivability. This spending disparity continues even today.

    So while your own government would not be the ones committing mass murder (it is the other side, after all, who would be dropping the bombs/firing the missiles), you don’t have to read very far into the book to quickly realise that the officials who are ostensibly concerned with your safety are not in the least bothered by the prospect of your being vapourised and/or dying slowly from radiation poisoning so long as they are able to live on.

    It’s a book you’ll want to bear in mind whenever 21st century American politicians start gibbering about the importance of “homeland security.”

    • Thanks: AnonStarter
  147. @Anatoly Karlin

    There is little doubt the western powers could do tens of millions of tests in short order if they made it a priority. It will not be made a priority, because the plutocracy really doesn’t care. The “lock-downs” can be milked for all they are worth, and old people dying is a feature, not a bug, as far as these people are concerned. Then again, when the affirmative action is reaching crippling levels, the slowness of the response is indicative of general incompetence as well as deliberate neglect.

  148. Let’s face it, the only way to explain the dereliction of the Trump administration (and the other Western powers) is that certain criminal elements WANTED to let the virus spread so as to create a predictable crisis with vast potential upside for those intending to exploit it.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  149. Ron Unz says:
    @Mark Hunter

    Faucci and co-conspirators should be tried for murder for willfully ignoring strong evidence that Zinc (e.g. Zinc Sulfate) + Hydroxychloroquine + Vitamin D + Vitamin C cure the disease.

    Well, that seems a bit harsh to me. There are so many different conflicting views on the Internet— including the huge number of zealous people who claim Covid-19 isn’t much more dangerous than the ordinary flu—that if you executed everyone with “incorrect opinions” the body-count might easily exceed that of the virus itself.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  150. Ron Unz says:
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Truly remarkable example of Sinotriumphalism and the extent to which Chinese state capacity seems to now outmatch that of the US or pretty much any other Western country.

    Well, I think America is still well ahead in propaganda, meaning that most people probably won’t recognize how totally incompetent our government has become until it finally collapses in a heap. For months, I’ve been thinking this seems like our own Chernobyl, but multipled by 100x.

    I really wonder what will happen with the current “economic reopening” that Trump seems to be promoting all around the country. I suppose by we’ll soon find out whether the Flu Hoaxers have been correct all along.

    And for those who haven’t already seen it, here’s a funny Chinese video I posted last week. Their propaganda is obviously still rudimentary, but it’s starting to improve:

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Jon Baptist
  151. Ron Unz says:
    @GazaPlanet

    Let’s face it, the only way to explain the dereliction of the Trump administration (and the other Western powers) is that certain criminal elements WANTED to let the virus spread so as to create a predictable crisis with vast potential upside for those intending to exploit it.

    I suppose that’s possible. Though consider that the Trump people changed their very vocal public position on the virus several times in just a few months, which really made themselves look totally ridiculous and incompetent.

    When political leaders behave in ways that are extremely disastrous for their own country and also make themselves look totally ridiculous and incompetent, I think it’s usually because they *are* totally ridiculous and incompetent.

    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
    , @Wizard of Oz
  152. Realist says:
    @Ron Unz

    Well, I think America is still well ahead in propaganda, meaning that most people probably won’t recognize how totally incompetent our government has become until it finally collapses in a heap.

    It has seemed to me that this country is on a shit slide to hell, for a few years. I have stated such on this blog.

  153. @Exile

    Palestine, Germany, Japan, Italy, Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Korea, China, Cambodia, Laos, the Philippines, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, Columbia, El Salvador, Vietnam, Kuwait, Lebanon, Panama, Yugoslavia, Somalia, Russia, Ukraine and Venezuela, among many others, disagree.

    And these countries run on a different premise with different moralality then Americans? So Americans will commit mass murder but not Yugoslavia? or Russia or Somalia? That is your point?
    Something programed in Americans for mass murder, but Venezuela is a good country with no mass murdering people.
    Do you know any Americans. Do you know any that would commit mass murder. Because I know a lot of my fellow countrymen and no one I know would commit mass murder. No one.

    What a fucking stupid post.

  154. This is old news (28th April) but I hadn’t seen it before:

    https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741

    Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research

    But just last year, the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses.

    The work entailed risks that worried even seasoned researchers. More than 200 scientists called for the work to be halted. The problem, they said, is that it increased the likelihood that a pandemic would occur through a laboratory accident.

    Dr. Fauci defended the work. “[D]etermining the molecular Achilles’ heel of these viruses can allow scientists to identify novel antiviral drug targets that could be used to prevent infection in those at risk or to better treat those who become infected,” wrote Fauci and two co-authors in the Washington Post on December 30, 2011. “Decades of experience tells us that disseminating information gained through biomedical research to legitimate scientists and health officials provides a critical foundation for generating appropriate countermeasures and, ultimately, protecting the public health.”

    Nevertheless, in 2014, under pressure from the Obama administration, the National of Institutes of Health instituted a moratorium on the work, suspending 21 studies.

    Three years later, though—in December 2017—the NIH ended the moratorium and the second phase of the NIAID project, which included the gain-of-function research, began.

    If this is an accurate account, it’s no wonder Donald Trump is sweating. Whatever his virtues, and whatever Obama’s vices, Obama suspended this work and it restarted on Trump’s watch. If SARS-CoV2 was developed by this partially US-funded program and released by accident from the lab in Wuhan, then the Chinese and American authorities must share responsibility.

  155. Our investigation linked this network to VDARE, a website known for posting anti-immigration content…

    So does Facebook ever give a reason for why being opposed to immigration is bad enough to warrant complete banning and removal from public discourse? Is anybody besides this site’s viewership asking this question, or is everybody just operating on the premise than disliking immigration is double plus wrongthink?

  156. @SafeNow

    Good to hear that this phenomenon was studied and even has a name. It is a paradox if you consider normal Americans. But, if you only take into account our elites, there is no paradox: they are all scum with no scruples (anyone with scruples never makes it that far).

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  157. @Fran Taubman

    So Americans will commit mass murder but not Yugoslavia? or Russia or Somalia? That is your point?

    His point went so far over your head that NORAD is trying to intercept it. He’s saying that American politicians and appointees are just as willing and capable of committing mass murders and war crimes for cynical purposes as any dictator or warlord you could think to mention. The countries he listed are where they’ve done or are currently doing it. Further, they have the means and resources to convince people like you that no American would ever even contemplate such things, even as you support them happening right in front of you on television.

    Do you know any that would commit mass murder. Because I know a lot of my fellow countrymen and no one I know would commit mass murder. No one.

    You may not know any of them personally, but you voted for them.
    Here’s former a Secretary of State justifying the murder of a half a million children:

    • Agree: Exile
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  158. @David

    In the last week or so, Facebook has started funding some of the regional news sites I read, ostensibly to get them through the lockdown.

    That’s really bad news. You can be sure it will be permanent.

  159. Truth3 says:

    Here’s former a Secretary of State justifying the murder of a half a million children:

    Better put…

    Here’s another Jew justifying the murder of half a million children the Jews hate.

    • Agree: Exile
  160. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Every Jew on the planet is complicit in the Tribe’s Hundreds of Millions, more likely Billions, or tens of Billions, or hundreds of Billions, or most likely Trillions, what the Hell… Quadrillions of crimes…

    Murder is right up there near the top of the list.

    The Day of Reckoning cannot come too soon.

  161. @AnonFromTN

    This is actually very true. Idealists are killed upon first contact in DC. They all get killed off within few days of working in DC.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  162. Old Jew says:
    @Yael Glavlit

    Yael,
    Is your handle related to this?:

    GLAVLIT

    The Main Directorate for Literary and Publishing Affairs (Glavnoe Upravlenie po Delam Literatury i Izdatelstv), known as Glavlit, was the state agency responsible for the censorship of printed materials in the Soviet Union. Although print was its main focus, it sometimes supervised the censorship of other media, including radio, television, theater, and film. Glavlit was created in 1922 to replace a network of uncoordinated military and civilian censorship agencies set up after the Bolshevik seizure of power. Although freedom of the press nominally existed in the Soviet Union, the government reserved the right to prevent the publication of certain materials. Glavlit was charged with preventing the publication of economic or military information believed to pose a threat to Soviet security; this included subjects as diverse as grain harvests, inflation, incidence of disease, and the location of military industries. Party and military leaders compiled a list of facts and categories deemed secret.

    Glavlit was also charged with suppressing any printed materials deemed hostile to the Soviet state or the Communist Party.

  163. @Astuteobservor II

    So, Seth Rich was not an idealist. He was killed only after a fairly long time working for DNC.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  164. @DonaldKrump

    I don’t know anyone who would commit mass murder. Maybe in James Bond movies.
    Not even dictators. Well maybe Madeleine Albright. LOl.
    Mass murder is in comic books, not real life.

  165. @Ron Unz

    When the neocons were pretending to hate Trump to gain him support as well as to disclaim responsibility for the things he was going to do for them, I think it was a hustle. GW Bush also pretended to be stupid and also announced that he was against nation building in his campaign.

    For weeks I was dumbfounded at the way people were ignoring the potential for the spread of coronavirus to the US. It wasn’t by chance that it was ignored. PC Americanus and boobus Americanus are certainly capable of sticking their heads in the sand, but not the people in charge. They HAD to know what was going to happen. Even the stable genius himself.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  166. @AnonFromTN

    I honestly don’t know enough about him to comment. But for anyone to survive in DC, idealist he is not.

  167. Ano4 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Mr Unz,

    I have some professional knowledge about these matters and I assure you that nothing prevents this virus from being thoroughly bioengineered.

    All the claims to the opposite non withstanding.

    They simply don’t want to scare the world population by acknowledging that Biotech/Biopharm/Syn Bio/Bioengineering officially entered into the existential risk territory.

    Since the last decade substantial drop in the DNA synthesis price, the advent of Gibson assembly and of course CRISPR, producing similar viruses is not an “exploit” anymore (in the biohacking meaning of the term).

    With proper funding it is doable in a reasonable timeframe.

    See for yourself what Gibson (of Gibson assembly fame) et al. managed to accomplish 10 years ago:

    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/329/5987/52.full

    Producing a virus with a genome of some 35 kb is today a level of magnitude easier.

    All this has obvious long-ranging and rather sad implications for our species and the future of our civilization.

    Maybe that’s why the Chinese reacted so strongly, they understood these implications and wanted to make a statement to the interested parties.

    In fact, I must admit that if I knew that we gonna get that far this fast, I might have thinked twice before having any children.

    Now I would not tell this to my kids of course.

    Anyway, it is too late now to think about this and hindsight is 20/20.

    Keep Calm And Carry On…

    • Replies: @Iris
  168. @Anon

    The biggest name on that [Facebook] oversight board, and I assume the heaviest hitter, is Stanford Law professor Pam Karlan.

    Pamela Karlan is a Jewish lesbian that’s very active with so-called ‘civil rights’ (in America, not Israel). Karlan has worked for years on behalf of the NAACP. She is an outspoken critic of ‘Putin’s Russia’ and was active in the movement to impeach Pres. Donald Trump. Talk about a Jewish stereotype!

    Does it surprise anyone that Zuck would invite Karlan to be a prominent member of Facebook’s censorship committee?

    Isn’t it nice that Karlan gets to determine what ideas get said (or not said) and what articles may be presented (or censored) on that social behemoth called Facebook?

    Is there anything more irritating than a pompous and privileged Social Justice Warrior abusing her unacknowledged power to limit political discourse while wrapping herself in moral virtue by ‘opposing hate speech’? Yuk.

    Karlan and her like-minded cronies at Facebook get to decide what kind of hate is ‘hateful’ and what kind of hate is acceptable ‘Free Speech’. That’s a pretty plum job, especially for a Jewish wallflower.

    Facebook’s slanted and politicized ‘community guidelines’ will have more influence on the next election than any amount of nefarious ‘Russian meddling’ could ever even dream of. Yet you can bet your last shekel that few media critics in America will ever even take notice of this glaring fact.

    With Karlan and her ilk buzzing around Stanford, Berkeley, Harvard, and Yale, it cannot be denied that the world is awash with Jewish activists, Jewish donors, Jewish committees, Jewish lawyers, Jewish intellectuals, Jewish censors and Zionist gatekeepers. Their notorious ‘hard work’, commitment, devotion, and impartiality is both world renowned and a plague on humanity.

    • Agree: Black Picard, KenH
  169. Iris says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Millions of Iraqis were murdered to further Israel’s geopolitical goals and deliver the Oded Yinon plan for the Middle-East, Taubman.

    Oil insider Gary Vogler writes of the Iraq war: “The oil agenda I discovered and experienced was to supply Iraq oil to Israel.” The players were the NeoCons in the Bush Administration… Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Lewis Libby, Marc Zell, and others

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/oil-for-israel-the-truth-about-the-iraq-war-15-years-later/

    Of course, I realise that millions of Iraqis don’t count as humans in your Superior Being’s eyes, but for the rest of us, they do, and their planned extermination is a mass murder.

    Iraq is another trophy on the Zionist genocidal record, of which you are so proud and boast so loudly.
    So how does it work for you? Do you have pictures of Fallujah’s children distorted bodies hang up in your lounge? Or may be on the ceiling of your bedroom even?

    Children of Fallujah: Stillbirths, disabilities and deformities too distressing to describe

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/archive/robert-fisk/children-of-fallujah-stillbirths-disabilities-and-deformities-too-distressing-to-describe-28742195.html

    • Replies: @Black Picard
  170. @Fran Taubman

    What would you call the war we’ve been in with Syria for the past decade?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  171. Iris says:
    @Ano4

    Producing a virus with a genome of some 35 kb is today a level of magnitude easier.

    Such a result was achieved in 2011, when a Dutch team working with American funding succeeded in modifying the Avian Flu H5N1 virus to adapt to Humans.

    They first edited the virus’ genome: with as few as five single mutations it gained the ability to latch onto cells in the nasal and tracheal passageways.

    They then run it several times through ferrets, the mammal which closest replicate the human epidemic reaction, and succeeded in making it airborne and highly transmissible after the 10th in-vivo generation.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2011/11/scientists-brace-media-storm-around-controversial-flu-studies

    • Replies: @Ano4
  172. Biff says:
    @Mark Hunter

    Faucci and co-conspirators should be tried for murder for willfully ignoring strong evidence that Zinc (e.g. Zinc Sulfate) + Hydroxychloroquine + Vitamin D + Vitamin C cure the disease.

    “Treat” not “cure”

  173. Ron Unz says:
    @GazaPlanet

    GW Bush also pretended to be stupid and also announced that he was against nation building in his campaign.

    For weeks I was dumbfounded at the way people were ignoring the potential for the spread of coronavirus to the US. It wasn’t by chance that it was ignored. PC Americanus and boobus Americanus are certainly capable of sticking their heads in the sand, but not the people in charge. They HAD to know what was going to happen. Even the stable genius himself.

    Well, if “W” was just pretending to be an idiot, he really deserved an Oscar. And the same for Trump and the people around him if they’re just pretending to be totally incompetent…

  174. @Ron Unz

    My response would be that we haven’t been incompetent enough yet to start World War III. This is not something you can use tactically so that blowback might be minimal.

    Consider this. I have read that the virus may have a billion replications per human. How many of those might be mutations in a single human? I have also read they have already found 11,000 mutations already.

    There is dumb and really dumb. Virologists know how these viruses mutate. I just don’t see any one giving the green light to something this dumb.

    If you know that this weapon may never be used as intended and your team could be the only team hurt, I just don’t buy the argument that this was incompetence.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
    , @Levtraro
  175. @DonaldKrump

    We who is we? I do not consider wars a part of mass murder. There is a civil war going on inside Syria for control of the country. I do not think the intention is mass murder for the sake of mass murder, all though many millions are dying. It is like saying all the millions dying in the WW s was mass murder.
    There are fights over territory, religion, etc where people die.

    I define mass murder as dropping a bomb on a civilian population with no declaration of war by a non state terrorist group, to achieve no other aim but the murder of innocents. I also consider the use of poison gas in warfare or bio weapons that inflict mass casualties on civilians.
    The Iraqi war was wrong and was based on a false preemies. But really Saddam Hussein was responsible for a lot of deaths in his war with Iran, as well as the murder and torture of his own population. He was not an innocent figure, he really played games with the UN inspection teams, and refused to abide by weapons of mass destruction inspections.

    I do not think anyone in any Western government would commit the kind of mass murder I listed above.

    • Replies: @Exile
    , @Anonymous
    , @Truth3
  176. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Ron Unz

    Faucci and friends are not like the average man on the street.  They are in a position to do us great harm with their opinions and actions, and they are doing it.

    I’m not a “Flu Denier” but it is beginning to look as if Covid-19 if properly treated  will be no worse than an ordinary flu.  It has taken months for proper treatments to see the light, and the delay is in large part due to Faucci and friends.  They are still trying to obscure effective treatments and even make them illegal (witness various state governors). They are willing to let thousands die in order to keep people afraid of Covid-19.

    They seem to be using Covid-19 as an excuse to play dictator, or to run the economy into the ground in hopes of spoiling Trump’s re-election, or some other reason. They know that a simple cure would explode the excuse.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  177. All of social media is chasing Millennial dollars or, rather, advertising revenue generated from them. For this reason they are making their sites into hugboxes for Leftists and, applying the principles of Political Correctness, removing non-Leftist opinion. It means you hit a nerve which means you are doing a good job. They banned me a couple years ago, and I take that as a compliment, just like my Twitter ban. Free speech sites like Gab and Pleroma are growing as people flee the propaganda that has now taken over New Media just like it did Old Media. Others like myself are running mailing lists, blogs, and chat rooms. Let the Left have their echo chamber, because it will collapse on itself from repetition.

  178. Exile says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Exceptionalism and Whataboutism are two sides of the same shekel & Chosen means never having to say you’re sorry.

    The fact that you’re f-bomb-level triggered by these hatefacts means we’re over the target.

    Never forget that the goyim are Noticing, Fran.

  179. Exile says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Talmudry about the definition of “murder” vs. “just war” in 3…2…1…

  180. sally says:
    @andwat

    Private parties that do the propaganda and support the bandit agendas direct those who run the USA.
    Oligarch Bandits=> “elected, salaried USA Officials” <= private media support for Oligarch Bandits.
    ___________________________ | __________________ | ______________________________ |

    its quite a show starring 425 Housekeepers + 100 Sentatation workers and 2 Article II Foreigners
    ___________________________ | __________________ | ______________________________ |

    ………………………………………………. 350,000,000 USA governed Americans…………………………….
    ___________________________ | __________________ | ______________________________ |

    It should be obvious government was privatized to avoid first Amendment rights.

  181. Exile says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Talmudry, as I expected.

    Shorter Fran: war isn’t mass-murder when my Tribe and its Fellowest Allies do it b/c reasons.

  182. How does Trump dodge responsibility for letting the virus spread? 1) Have his propagandists (many of them libertarians accustomed to making untenable arguments with a straight face) tell “the base” that it’s just the flu, just a hoax, a conspiracy, etc. What is the other technique? Play the fool. It’s not just Trump who plays the idiot. Look at Matt Walsh talking about the negro jogger checking out the construction site because of boyish interest in building. It’s a common tactic in the propaganda wasteland of political discussion. Where saying the right thing has little to do with being right, and even less with intelligence. No one in the mainstream can get away with stating that the virus was allowed to spread on purpose. The appearance of incomprehensible ignorance cushions the impact of the never serious, ridiculous “criticism” from the Left. The key to understanding Trump’s “survival” is that Trump isn’t really so offensive to the Left. Trump is the lightningrod and his white Christian supporters absorb the shocks.

  183. Jiminy says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    After I read your stories about the JFK saga, I decided to look back on the Zapruda film.
    What was strange , Zapruda , a clothes maker, designer, seller or similar, was there standing on a three foot high wall out in the open, with his camera up to his eye and not once did JFK leave the view. Shots were being fired, people were running and diving onto the ground, but still Zapruda soldiered on like an old war correspondent. Compare that to the myriad of youtube videos of mass shootings where the person is hiding under the table and just as shots fire out they drop the phone and all you see is the ceiling. A telling .difference. I’m sure he was told to be there to capture the occasion for prosperity. And as for releasing a virus that doesn’t kill people large scale, I think you could compare it to an anti-personnel mine, it basically achieves the same result only biologically. But to the question of why would an unstable virus be released, I would think that it would make the prospect of developing a successful vaccine even harder.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  184. @sarz

    It wouldn’t hurt to get UR on to the Russian owned Facebook clone, VK, at vk.com. So far it’s uncensored.

    Quite a few White Nationalists set up pages at VK thinking it’d be uncensored and their pages and channels were blocked because of their “racist” content. Also, VK won’t let you create an account unless you use a phone number with an account linked to a real person. VoIP phone numbers are rejected.

    Telegram seems uncensored at least for politics but it’s not a Facebook clone. And Telegram lets you use any kind of phone number.

    • Thanks: Brás Cubas, Inverness
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  185. @sarz

    I’d like to see this happen too. However, the only way to avoid a repeat of a facebook-style deletion is to focus on the primary site.

    Own the farm – otherwise you’re just a share cropper.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
  186. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I don’t know anyone who would commit mass murder. Maybe in James Bond movies.
    Not even dictators. Well maybe Madeleine Albright. LOl.
    Mass murder is in comic books, not real life.

    I see. So e.g. Russians are capable of mass murder, but Americans are not?

    But human beings are incalculable and he is a fool who tells himself that he knows what a man is capable of. –William Somerset Maugham

    I admit it: it has taken me an embarrassingly long time to realise why websites like zuckerbook are so obsessed with controlling so-called hate speech: because they want to keep people like you and me in ignorance of the way the world is vs. the way they want us to think it is.

    Your saying what you did in the way you said it has helped to shift my own perspective; that is something that does not happen very often. I see now that the distance between the way you think and the way I once thought (until recently) is not very great at all and I thank you for making me aware of this.

  187. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    But really Saddam Hussein was responsible for a lot of deaths in his war with Iran, as well as the murder and torture of his own population.

    Odd, then, isn’t it, that Donald Rumsfeld was filmed and photographed shaking hands with such a man?

    https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

    He was not an innocent figure, he really played games with the UN inspection teams, and refused to abide by weapons of mass destruction inspections.

    Correct me if I am mistaken, but I was led to understand that the reason the West made such a fetish of weapons inspections is because western governments had all the receipts for the weapons of mass destruction they had either a) bought for him outright or b) sold him the chemicals and equipment for to allow him to make such weapons for himself.

    I do not think anyone in any Western government would commit the kind of mass murder I listed above.

    Perhaps western governments handing dictators like Saddam the weapons they need to perpetrate mass murder might be indicative that they find the idea of mass murder perfectly acceptable?

    Saddam was, after all, their poster child for a decade (1980-1990) mass murder, torture, and all until he started believing he was his own man and made the mistake of biting the hand that fed him.

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  188. Truth3 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Murderous Jew Bitch. Go to Hell.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  189. Renoman says:

    What’s the best way to fight this Ban? We have to get you back on air my friend, the World needs you.

  190. Ano4 says:
    @Iris

    I am aware of this.

    And I also read the 2015 chimeric coronavirus paper.

    I know it’s doable anytime.

  191. anonymous[342] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ron Unz

    In British English, Anti-Asian means anti-Indian, and then Facebook has a point.

    I have seen several articles by some columnists here with a an anti-Indian/anti-Hindu point of view on Unz (for example, alleging that Modi/BJP is fascist, or comparing him implicitly with Hitler/the Nazis, for example in the article “Muslims Are Being Murdered in India”).

    By contrast, I don’t remember ever having seen articles here with a pro-Indian/pro-Hindu point of view.

    This seems strange because Unz prides itself to strive for a coverage of interesting, important, and controversial perspectives largely excluded from the (American) Mainstream Media.

    But anti-Indian/anti-Hindu coverage is the mainstream in the MSM, including the American MSM.

    If Unz really strives for interesting, important, and controversial perspectives largely excluded from the (American) Mainstream Media, it should also cover alternative viewpoints here.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @DB Cooper
  192. Jimmy1969 says:

    Facebook has winners and losers. Like the horse and buggy and the plough.

  193. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth3

    Murderous Jew Bitch. Go to Hell.

    Condemning people certainly helps relieve a lot of nervous tension, doesn’t it? I don’t think I am going out on a limb when I say we are all a bit nervous right now (perhaps more than a bit).

    It is worth recalling that the words that are posted here are posted by people. Not by demons, not by abstractions, but people. And if there is one power we all have available to us as people, even at a time like this, it is the power to change. To change both ourselves and others.

    The political left believes that you win by bullying people and trying to shut them down; unz.com getting the push from FB is merely the latest example of this. And that approach might seem to work, at least in the short-term.

    Ultimately, however, they are wrong: bullying people into silence doesn’t really work because it only serves to make people angry, resentful, and more likely to shut out ideas that aren’t in line with what they were already thinking.

    You do not win if you destroy people: you only win by changing their minds. I hope the clever, perceptive folks on this site grasp this, even if the billionaires at FB cannot.

    • Replies: @Truth3
  194. sarz says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes, it could be that you’re missing something. I had wanted to find reports from the time, 2002 I believe, regarding Warren Buffett taking the actor Arnold Schwarzenegger over to England to be vetted by Lord Rothschild before he ran for governor of California. Buffett, on the front page of the Washington Post had spoken disarmingly of how this was the most natural thing in the world. There was a large color picture of the three of them. Other papers also gave the visit prominent play. But quite a few people were scandalized and said so. Gradually, the whole topic disappeared from the major originating search engines. At least for me they had disappeared. But there were millions of responses, so buried beyond my everyday capacity to trace they were probably there—at least that’s what your quote from Startpage would suggest.

    I tried the Russian browser and search engine Yandex and I got a single germane result, a Pinterest photo of the three. For quite a while that was the best response I got.

    Startpage was a pleasant surprise. It gave me the results in abundance and in plain view. I’m guessing that they are accessing the results that Google helpfully crawled and stored, and using them for purposes that Google would not approve of. This is my semi-educated guess. I have no idea how the concerned algorithm might be constructed. Maybe this state of affairs will ultimately lead Google to kill rather than bury inconvenient results.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  195. I don’t know what Facebook’s rationale was but by now it is very widely accepted that far right content should be banned rather than tolerated. Free speech extends as far as Ann Coulter, at most. The right and middle have failed to stigmatize communism despite ample raw material, and so there is little sense of a double standard when only far right speech is declared odious. In fact, an honest depiction of Communist atrocities woud probably be judged hate speech.

  196. Truth3 says:
    @Anonymous

    FT is a murderous Jew Bitch, and YOU can go to Hell with her.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  197. @Fran Taubman

    We think of ourselves as a nation of nice guys but there are always outliers and they tend to end up in government. Look at the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki or the British fire-bombing of Dresden, the covert and now overt use of torture. Look at Operation Northwoods, a plot to carry out acts of terrorism against American citizens in order to blame them on Cuba. Even America has murderous elements willing to justify their conduct in terms of cost-benefit morality.

  198. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @sarz

    I’m guessing that they are accessing the results that Google helpfully crawled and stored, and using them for purposes that Google would not approve of.

    Interesting (as was your post; I did not know that about Schwarzenegger). Now you have got me wondering how much longer the arrangement between Startpage and Google is going to last.

    (With any luck, the people who run SP are wondering, too, and are working on their own search algorithm in anticipation of the day Google permanently withdraws their approval.)

    • Replies: @sarz
  199. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Truth3

    FT is a murderous Jew Bitch, and YOU can go to Hell with her.

    It is nice to be thought of in any case.

  200. @Ron Unz

    Ron, I have just experienced the Facebook cancellation in its most aggressive mode.

    I wanted to tease an old Labor government minister of my acquaintance who had posted a link to a Guardian article by an eloquent Sudanese Muslim female opinion journalist who opined that the US and UK were the worst sufferers from COVID 19 because of their long history neo liberal privatizing etc. So I sought to post a link to James Thompson’s UR article which pointed to the common failure to stop plane arrivals.

    The link was immediately removed and I was advised that because of whatever breach of rules or standards I had attempted my post couldn’t be shared.

    The reason I write this is to suggest that you work out the the best systematic workarounds that Facebook will have trouble catching up with, and propagate them.

    My workaround was primitive with little time and thought given to it. I simply replaced the U in unz with an asterisk and then went back to the main text and made sure that the omission could be guessed by spelling your name as U*z. It worked.

    I have no idea what triggers are built in and I didn’t experiment with e.g. Unzdotcom or variations on that. Maybe you could experiment and then encourage your readers to adopt a few of a large range of possible variations that any dimwit could interpret. E.g. T+1NZdotcom, S+2NZdotcom…..UNA+25dotcom

    It would be very interesting to see how long it would take for Facebook to catch up. I suspect that the longest time would be taken with some person first having to notice a few examples of the simple code – I was going to say the “dot” instead of the period symbol but I think that had better be ditched anyway because it may well be the object of automatic AI search.

    Alternatively. Instead of encouraging your readers to try such simple variations on a subterfuge you might prefer to use a more sophisticated version for Unz Review postings to Facebook. In that case I suppose you would need to include in the message the right way to make use of e.g. You En Zed with a period and a truncated comma. Generic instructions should work for the not too dim. They should be able to decipher Reverse of ZED (a l’anglaise) EN YOO before Period and com.

    If you do decide to test Facebook I hope you will tell your readers the result.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  201. @Wizard of Oz

    UNA+25 somehow suffered an amputation.

  202. TGD says:
    @Trinity

    FaceBerg is mostly used by just the old farts nowadays anyhow…

    I’m an “old fart” and I’ve never been on the Facebook. Recognized it early for what it was- a data mining operation.

    Facebook flagrantly violated the FTC’s 2012 order by deceiving its users and allowing pay-for-play data harvesting by developers. …the Federal Trade Commission fined Facebook $5 billion for mishandling user’s personal data…

    Evidently, they’ve already paid the $5 billion fine and they didn’t bat an eyelash! Tells you how valuable the info they collect on you is.

  203. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @David riskanalyst

    Also, VK won’t let you create an account unless you use a phone number with an account linked to a real person. VoIP phone numbers are rejected.

    So is VK calling a would-be account holder at their “real” telephone number part of the account sign-up process?

    • Replies: @David riskanalyst
  204. DB Cooper says:
    @anonymous

    “But anti-Indian/anti-Hindu coverage is the mainstream in the MSM, including the American MSM.”

    Which planet you are living on? There is no anti-Indian/anti-Hindu coverage in the MSM anywhere. Granted there are coverage of poverty, Caste system and human rights violation in Kashmir every so often but if the MSM really reports on the real India the coverage will be much worst. I can tell you the MSM are narrative based and if news that does not fit a certain narrative the MSM will just ignore it at best or distort it at worst.

    Here is the thing that the MSM has never report. And that is India is a little thug spawned by the big thug Britain. And once the big thug Britain left the subcontinent the little thug did what its old master has been doing all along. And that is land grabbing and bullying its neighbors because India sees itself as the new imperial power in the block. India is one of the few countries that has invaded and land grabbed every single of its neighbors and this is why India is hated in its own neighborhood. The MSM never report on this. Here is a selected list of land grab that India stole from its neighbors since its creation in 1947:

    [MORE]

    1947 Annexation of Kashmir:
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/06/indias-shame/
    http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/kashmirs-young-rebels/
    1949 Annexation of Manipur:
    http://www.tehelka.com/manipurs-merger-with-india-was-a-forced-annexation/
    http://www.passblue.com/2017/09/05/in-lush-manipur-women-work-for-peace-as-militarization-marches-on/
    1949 Annexation of Tripura:
    http://www.crescent-online.net/2009/09/the-myths-of-one-nation-and-one-hinduism-in-india-zawahir-siddique-2316-articles.html
    1951 Annexation of South Tibet:
    http://kanglaonline.com/2011/06/khathing-the-taking-of-tawang/
    http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article2582.html
    http://chasfreeman.net/india-pakistan-and-china/
    1954 Annexation of Nagaland:
    http://morungexpress.com/desire-nagas-live-separate-nation-deserved/
    http://nagalandmusings.blogspot.com/2013/01/indias-untold-genocide-of-nagas.html
    1954 Attempt annexation of Sikkim and Bhutan (Failed):
    http://redbarricade.blogspot.hk/2013/01/twisted-truth.html
    1961 Annexation of Goa:
    http://www.ruleoflaw.org.au/the-annexation-of-goa/
    http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/goa-falls-indian-troops
    http://goa-invasion-1961.blogspot.in/2013/09/india-pirated-goa-china-is-regaining_16.html
    1962 Annexation of Kalapani, Nepal:
    http://www.eurasiareview.com/07032012-indian-hegemony-in-nepal-oped/
    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1239348
    http://www.sharnoffsglobalviews.com/land-disputes-116/
    1962 Aggression against China:
    http://gregoryclark.net/redif.html
    http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/news-events/podcasts/renewed-tension-indiachina-border-whos-blame
    1971 Annexation of Turtuk, Pakistan:
    http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/suddenly-indian
    1972 Annexation of Tin Bigha, Bangladesh:
    http://www.dhakatribune.com/op-ed/2014/feb/20/killing-fields
    1975 Annexation of Sikkim (the whole country):
    http://nepalitimes.com/issue/35/Nation/9621#.UohjPHQo6LA
    http://www.passblue.com/2015/07/22/a-small-himalayan-kingdom-remembers-its-lost-independence/

    http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Indian-hegemonism-drags-Himalayan-kingdom-into-oblivion
    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/annexation-of-sikkim-by-india-was-not-legal-wangchuk-namgyal/1/391498.html
    1983 (Aborted) Attempted invasion of Mauritius:
    http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/when-india-almost-invaded-mauritius/
    1984 Annexation of Ladakh
    https://dailytimes.com.pk/452178/china-and-indian-annexation-of-kashmir-ladakh/
    1987 Invasion of Sri Lanka
    http://www.asiantribune.com/node/63316
    1990 (Failed) First Attempted annexation of Bhutan:
    http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/07/world/india-based-groups-seek-to-disrupt-bhutan.html
    2006 Annexation of Duars, Bhutan:
    http://wangchasangey.blogspot.in/2015/11/different-kind-of-anxieties-on.html#comment-form
    2013 Annexation of Moreh, Myanmar:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nehginpao-kipgen/easing-indiamyanmar-borde_b_4633040.html
    2017 Aggression against China:
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/06/sikkim-stand-off-china-india-collide-himalayas/
    http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2102555/indias-china-war-round-two
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/11/china-india-standoff-modi-has-bitten-off-more-than-he-can-chew/
    2017 (Failed) Second Attempted annexation of Bhutan:
    http://wangchasangey.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-strategy-behind-india-doklam.html
    http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2106709/india-must-find-face-saving-pretext-and-withdraw-doklam
    2018 (Thwarted) Attempt invasion of the Maldives
    https://www.ft.com/content/332a5b1a-1155-11e8-8cb6-b9ccc4c4dbbb
    https://thewire.in/223916/keep-off-maldives-yameen-government-tells-indian-military/?utm_source=alsoread

  205. @DB Cooper

    I don:t believe you. Democracies don’t go to war unless attacked😎

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @AnonFromTN
  206. @Ron Unz

    This may contain nothing that is new or helpful to you. Bait in case it does here is some kind of potential remedy being provided by Facebook:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-05-09/facebook-oversight-board-launches-australian-content-deletion/12225366

  207. @Anonymous

    So is VK calling a would-be account holder at their “real” telephone number part of the account sign-up process?

    Yes, that was true 6 months ago when I was unable to create an account there, and it wasn’t because of using a privacy VPN because even after revealing my real IP it still wouldn’t let me create an account, their page just kept telling me to try a different phone number. Much more intrusive than FACE or GOOG or TWIT which all let me use VoIP disposable phone numbers.

    Give it a try if you want and report back.

  208. @Anonymous

    I agree and we are very stupid to have provided and supported him with Weapons when he was fighting Iran. Did the US supply chemical weapons to him for sure? Then turned on him when he threatened us.
    The only people that I see that deliberately commit mass murder as a weapon to terrorize, and inflict damage similar to the Taliban trying to kill a school girl on the way to school (not mass murder) or blowing up a wedding which they often do, or ISIS burning people in cages is Islam.
    I do not see anyone in the West committing mass murder in the name of religion, nor do I think anyone would. It is not in our DNA. The West always acts in accordance with trying to prevent human casualties and protecting life. Wars have been misjudged and wrong but they were not started with the intent of committing mass murder as it’s prime objective.

    • LOL: Iris
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Biff
    , @anonymous
  209. DB Cooper says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    “Democracies don’t go to war unless attacked”

    Really? You said this with a straight face? There is actually a logical path for democracies to be more belligerent than non-democracies. I can come up with many examples.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  210. @davidgmillsatty

    Here is an article that shows just how significant the mutations can be.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20060160v2

    Here we report functional characterizations of 11 patient-derived viral isolates, all of which have at least one mutation. Importantly, these viral isolates show significant variation in cytopathic effects and viral load, up to 270-fold differences, when infecting Vero-E6 cells. We observed intrapersonal variation and 6 different mutations in the spike glycoprotein (S protein), including 2 different SNVs that led to the same missense mutation. Therefore, we provide direct evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 has acquired mutations capable of substantially changing its pathogenicity.

  211. @Kratoklastes

    So much of what you just said has been disproven by further study of Covid. An example:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20060160v2

    Here we report functional characterizations of 11 patient-derived viral isolates, all of which have at least one mutation. Importantly, these viral isolates show significant variation in cytopathic effects and viral load, up to 270-fold differences, when infecting Vero-E6 cells. We observed intrapersonal variation and 6 different mutations in the spike glycoprotein (S protein), including 2 different SNVs that led to the same missense mutation. Therefore, we provide direct evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 has acquired mutations capable of substantially changing its pathogenicity.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  212. @Mark Hunter

    Maybe you should think again about this being an easily treatable disease. Here is an abstract of a recent article. After reading it tell me whether finding an easy treatment for this is going to be the piece of cake you suggest:

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20060160v2

    Here we report functional characterizations of 11 patient-derived viral isolates, all of which have at least one mutation. Importantly, these viral isolates show significant variation in cytopathic effects and viral load, up to 270-fold differences, when infecting Vero-E6 cells. We observed intrapersonal variation and 6 different mutations in the spike glycoprotein (S protein), including 2 different SNVs that led to the same missense mutation. Therefore, we provide direct evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 has acquired mutations capable of substantially changing its pathogenicity.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  213. @DB Cooper

    I don’t think it is as much a case of a little thug created by a big thug as a victim of abuse having all humanity and decency and spark stomped out of it by centuries of relentless abuse. Kind of like a mad dog except dogs are redeemable.

  214. @Wizard of Oz

    Democracies don’t go to war unless attacked

    Really? The US was attacked the last time in 1941 (Pearl Harbor). How many wars did the US start in the last 80 years? (Hint: ten fingers on your two hands won’t be enough to count them).

    • Agree: Biff
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @tomo
  215. I never went on faceberg because I knew it was an intelligence operation from the start. All of silicon valley has been cultivated and financed by Deep State Intelligence. We have freedom of speech, but it does not apply to private forums. As all of our speech moves to the internet, TPTB are able to exploit this loophole by eliminating speech (((they))) don’t like from the main social media tools.

    I like TUR because it publishes many differing viewpoints, and anybody can publish their politically incorrect opinion down below.

    • Agree: Commentator Mike
  216. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I do not see anyone in the West committing mass murder in the name of religion, nor do I think anyone would. It is not in our DNA. The West always acts in accordance with trying to prevent human casualties and protecting life.

    If you are serious about discovering what the West does in actuality (vs. what it says it does), you can start here:

    https://archive.org/details/AmericasDeadliestExportBlumWilliam/mode/2up

    America’s Deadliest Export: Democracy – The Truth About US Foreign Policy and Everything Else is a book written by William Blum, formerly with the US State Department. Blum has written other books (Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II is another good one), but I would suggest you start with America’s Deadliest Export and go from there.

    If, on the other hand, you believe you would find the knowledge that a great deal of America’s foreign policy is decidedly not, “in accordance with trying to prevent human casualties and protecting life,” difficult to accept then please disregard the above: it will only upset you.

    Make no mistake, America is a much-beloved country and don’t let anyone ever fool you: there is a reason people from all over the world go to great lengths (and in some cases, risk their lives) to go there. However, it is also hated and feared and, I am sorry to say, not always irrationally so, as Mr. Blum points out step-by-step in his books.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  217. sarz says:
    @Anonymous

    Sadly, maybe it’s not a matter of having the right algorithm. It’s the data that has already been collected by Google (and Bing). Most of it is no longer accessible to a new search engine. But I see that Google itself is not offering up archived pages. Minus archives, what Google is offering is more extensive crawling. That advantage cannot be overcome by a better algorithm. It costs money. I don’t know what Startpage’s business model is. Whatever it is, it’s hard to compete with the internet advertising monopoly.

    I think if Startpage gets big enough to make a difference, Google will terminate the deal. (Unless Startpage is not what it seems.)

    It’s insane to tolerate this monopoly interfering in politics in such blatant ways. It needs to be nationalized and run as an accountable public trust

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  218. @Anonymous

    I am not saying that the West and the US in specific has not done horrible horrible things, starting with the Native Americans, slavery etc. Every human in every era is responsible for horror. It is human nature. American’s foreign policy has been awful and misguided from Vietnam onward, to its invasion of Islamic countries. The British Empire etc.

    I am not here to defend what you are engaging me on foreign policy. My point is much much more basic and stupid then foreign policy nuance. My point is that psychological staple people who inhabit and govern the West do not set our to be suicidal martyrs in a quest to inflict mass murder for a religious philosophy as expressed in Islamic religious doctrines by Islamic religious leaders such as the Muslim brotherhood founder Said Q’tub in his Magnus opus Under the Shade of the Quran volumes of books dedicated to destabilizing the west for the emergence of Islamic hegemony thru mass murder. Is there a Western document that is similar to that?

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Anonymous
  219. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @davidgmillsatty

    From the abstract of that Chinese article:  “… no mutation [of SARS-CoV-2 aka Covid-19)] has been directly linked with functional changes in viral pathogenicity.”

    I don’t know if that refers to how contagious the disease is or how severe, but in any case, is it true?  Some of the comments at the bottom of the linked to page cast doubt.

    I’ve posted about this before but it’s worth repeating.  The source is Luc Montagnier, co-winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize in “Physiology or Medicine” when he was a professor at the Pasteur Institute.  He says that Covid-19 is an ordinary flu virus salted with several short but working excerpts of HIV.  The virus is mutating as it spreads, yes, but the inserts are disappearing along the way and the virus is becoming less and less harmful. He and his collaborator Jean-Claude Perez say this shedding is typical of unnatural changes to a natural virus.

    Though it’s not the main point of this post, Montagnier says the insertions must have been made artificially, by human agency. He conjectures that Covid-19 was the result of an attempt at making an HIV vaccine.

    Panel discussion

    The Coronavirus Is Man Made According to Luc Montagnier the Man Who Discovered HIV

    Luc Montagnier Insists That the Virus Came out of a Lab

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  220. @DB Cooper

    You missed the joke/sarcasm even when I added an emoji! 😎

    Thanks for your list.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @DB Cooper
  221. @AnonFromTN

    I’m disappointed in someone as smart as you. I even used an emoji 😎 to double flag my appreciation of his long list.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  222. @davidgmillsatty

    I don’t think you have answered Kratoklastes point. In fact many small and frequent mutations would add to the expense and difficulty of responding effectively with vaccines, antiviral drugs and well-timed ICU treatment.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  223. We (at least I am) the proles. The media targets the Outer Party. It is the people in the Outer Party, who are news junkies, who take the news seriously. The Outer Party people have enormous inertia and a fair degree of pride in their status as members of the Party. Nevertheless, censorship is required lest they start to lose confidence in the system. The faithful Outer Party types in DC still believe in elements of the Russia Hoax.

  224. @Mark Hunter

    Those inserts were highly challenged as being HIV inserts. In fact they were only parts of HIV and many other viruses had these same things as well. This all started with an paper by a group of Indian researchers that took down their paper.

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1

    And after the researchers got bashed to shit they took the paper down.

    I will post a few choice comments:

    ……………………………………………………..

    If you read the comments, these guys cherry picked matches to HIV that aren’t even in the top 100 matches. It’s a nonsense paper that is utterly irresponsible.

    …………………………………………………….

    One issue with putting so much emphasis on the “inserts” (which, I should note, are actually NOT present in their entirety in HIV; if you compare the inserts in fig. 2 to the inserts actually matched to various HIV-1 seqs in Table 1, the latter sequences are actually shorter, and only the first two match 100% even after being shortened to 6 nucleotides) is that 1) HIV-1 mutates a lot, and 2) there are a ton of HIV-1 sequences in the database.

    In other words, there’s a fairly good chance that virtually ANY sufficiently short sequence of amino acids that is in any way compatible with being a functional RNA virus will be found in some HIV-1 sequence somewhere. This is an expected artefact of the amount of time/money that has gone into studying HIV-1 via sequencing.

    ……………………………………..

    Those are not insertions. It is “DELETION” of SARS clade.

    ……………………………………….

    Dr. Konermann of Stanford just checked their results. The similarity is spurious. Out of 4 inserts they identify between NCov and SARS, 2 are found in bat coronavirus. Of the remaining two, only one is most similar to HIV, and is so short (6 AA) that the similarity is not higher than chance given database.

    …………………………………………

    In the supplemental Fig S2, the author mentioned that “the Bat-SARS Like CoV in the last row shows that insert 1 and 4 is very unique to Wuhan 2019-nCoV”. In fact, the Bat-SARS Like CoV, discovered in 2013, contains all the four insertions. Insertion 2 and 3 of 2019-nCoV are identical to Bat-SARS Like CoV. Insertion 1 involves two synonymous and one Thr-Ile mutation. Insertion 4 contains one synonymous mutation and a 12-bp insertion. Therefore, the two viruses have very high sequence similarity, and are likely evolutionarily related, naturally. Indeed, the four identified insertions are the result of the pair-wise comparison of Wuhan 2019-nCoV and 2013 SARS virus (Fig 1), and are an artifact when comparing only two viruses. The ‘insertions’ regions also appear in other coronavirus, as indicated in the multiple comparison in Fig.S1, possibly functionally important.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
    , @Herald
  225. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @davidgmillsatty

    Luc Montagnier is well aware of the Indian paper business.  He did his own evaluation of the viral sequence.

    Maybe avidgmillsatty is right, maybe he is wrong, virology, or any biology, is not my field. Still, I think Montagnier deserves better than the criticism I have seen.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  226. @Wizard of Oz

    I think it is becoming quite apparent that Covid will be very difficult to treat due to all of its mutations. But that does not equate to it being designed by humans. Just the opposite. It means hopefully a designer would realize the uselessness and futility of weaponizing something that you cannot possibly control.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  227. @Mark Hunter

    Well if he did his own evaluation, then he should publish it if he thinks it will stand up to scrutiny. That is how science is supposed to work.

  228. Why are we being bombarded with obsessive amateur technical minutiae by a fucking lawyer? I don’t care that Davidgmilssatty’s brother went as a scientist for 3rd grade halloween. The only reason anybody murders their soul in law school is they can’t do math or science.

  229. @Wizard of Oz

    Well, who looks at emoji? People hold lots of weird opinions. E.g., I personally know otherwise intelligent people who still believe that Russia interfered in 2016 elections. Or than Iran is aggressive. Or that Maduro is a drug trafficker (even though DEA own data show that only 6% of SA drugs reach the US via the Caribbean corridor, that includes Venezuela, Surinam, Guyana, French Guiana, and the easternmost province of Colombia, whereas the other 94% go via Western corridor, i.e., our “friends” Colombia and Ecuador). Even though these notions are about as sensible as the idea that the Earth is flat, it appears that you don’t need to be a retarded moron to believe these things.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  230. @Heres your insertion zzip squoosh

    The only reason anybody murders their soul in law school is they can’t do math or science.

    You forgot money: there is nothing comparable in science. The only problem is, you cannot be a successful lawyer if you have any morals or scruples.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  231. DB Cooper says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Haha, you’re welcome.

    Please feel free to expand on and disseminate the list as you see fit. The world needs to know what the little thug is up to.

  232. @Kratoklastes

    ‘My point has always been that Covid is contagious but not very deadly. So why weaponize something like that?

    ‘This has been answered many times (in this thread, and elsewhere)…’

    I think two possibilities are more plausible. Both account for the lack of lethality.

    1. The virus was a work in progress that got out by accident. Think about it; it’s going to be a lot easier to work with a virus if you get all the other attributes you’re seeking first and amp up the lethality last rather than the reverse. No one wants to deal with something where one dropped beaker means everyone in the lab dies an agonizing death.

    2. It’s a threat. ‘Look what we can do; now, what happens if we make it more lethal? Don’t want that to happen? Let’s talk tariffs. Let’s talk Taiwan.’

    Either way, one reason I do favor the weapons lab variety of explanation is that this virus seems to have the very militarily useful property of spreading in advance of any actual symptoms appearing. The other is that the virus showed up in the same city where China’s biological research program is centered. I’m not saying that is the explanation; merely that it strikes me as a distinct possibility.

    In any case, I’m impatient with the ‘it couldn’t be from a lab; it’s clearly a bat virus’ argument. Of course it was originally from some natural source; the weapons designers aren’t trying to prove they can play God here and create life. They’re going to take something already in nature and begin modifying it to meet their needs.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  233. DB Cooper says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    There is a new one.

    2020 Annexation of Limpiyadhura, Kalapani and Lipulekh, Nepal
    https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/nepal-confronts-india-in-lipulekh-border-dispute/

  234. Art says:

    Mr. Unz,

    Am sure this has already been noted – but this FB banning has nothing to with coronavirus or Vdare immigration. This is a false flag maneuver.

    This ban has everything to do with UR’s publications about Israel/Zionism/Jews.

    By attacking UR over “Vdare” – they are avoiding having to attack you over Jews —- PERIOD!

    A 20% drop in traffic is a serious matter. Clearly injury has occurred.

    Perhaps there could be a class action discovery process, where FB would reveal with transparency their banning selection process, backed up by documentation.

    Art

    p.s. Warning – with that said – I am no one to give out legal advice.

    • Agree: Brás Cubas
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  235. @davidgmillsatty

    Well there you have a rational point to weigh in the balance…. not conclusive though.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  236. @Ron Unz

    In a relatively democratic medium sized prosperous country with quite sane politicians I experienced a stroke of clarity early on.
    Politicians supposed to be in charge had to avoid, above all, being blamed for deaths and prolonged disability caused by the health system being overloaded. Why should that not apply to Trump and the governors?

    In Trump’s case it is unwise to assume one has really understood his thought processes but it is worth looking at his performance this year as also motivated by the need to be largely untouched by blame for disaster in November. Rationally that might make him understand that, even if the decisions of 50 state governors and legislatures cannot rationally be assigned all the blame for disasters he should be able to get away with telling his base and some new voters that the other leaders are to blame, safe in the knowledge that sorting out the truth in the weeks up to the election will be far too complex for 99.99% of voters.

    So… not so much “totally ridiculous and incompetent” as extremely callous. Will Trump be really upset by the Deaths of say 1 per cent of half the population? Because the aged and infirm will do most of the dying it would be a positive economic factor in his second term.

  237. @AnonFromTN

    “you cannot be a successful lawyer if you have any morals or scruples”

    Where and since when has that proven true? And what is your evidence?

    I am so much a critic of the legal systems of America that I wouldn’t allow extradition to the US in 99% of cases and I have never been an enthusiast for the way American lawyers, leading the world, have gone about drumming up business. But in my country, and, I believe, many others in and outside the Common Law world, it is absurdly wrong to my personal knowledge. I don’t take you to be one of those primitives who would deny the services of counsel to clients thought to be guilty. The rule still is, I believe, that, if counsel actually knows his client is guilty [e.g. because of a confession that he believes] he may still represent him if he can do so without saying or adducing in evidence something he knows to be untrue. Of course most lawyers don’t appear in court and also don’t practise criminal law. Comparable ethical rules apply. For example one could not put questions to your client which were designed to be answered with known falsehoods.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  238. @AnonFromTN

    I have long taken the view that the US completely stuffed up its potential relationship with Russia probably starting with the dishonored assurance to Gorbachev that NATO would not take over in Eastern Europe. When Putin took over more opportunities were probably missed. However I happened to see a 2018 film “Active Measures” on TV which made a very coherent case for the view that the KGB, under Czar Vladimir, has taken over and also enriched themselves enormously while keeping the remaining Russia based oligarchs under close control. It seems logical for a coolheaded, disciplined, KGB officer who regarded Russia’s loss of empire as a disaster to have pursued absolute power fortified by great wealth (for practical reasons, not display). I could see nothing implausible about that but, what about interference inn US politics?

    A priori I would regard Russian (and Chinese) interference in US politics as no less probable than Israeli interference or that of the UK and Germany in the late 1930s. And the alleged Putin tactic of waging war as the weaker party without military action seemed to fit his intelligence, background and character too. It seems that he is playing a long game sniping away at fringe targets with no problem of ideology inhibiting him from supporting right wing nationalists, especially in the EU. And, if one believed the extent to which Trump depended on Russian money to prop up his facade of being a successful billionaire businessman, of course it would be Trump who would be supported.

    I couldn’t remember the exact name of the film as I prepared to reply to you. When I did a search I think I found at least three recent substantial films or series which as far as I could see, painted much the same picture of Putin’s Russia. I would be interested in your thoroughly considered and researched review of those productions. As an Australian I am much less concerned about American foreign policy bungles wrt Russia than with China and the ME but I fear it is too late on all fronts.

    By the way, you sent that Iran is aggressive. Isn’t that taking things too far when one considers the events of 1979 and continuity with the régime then installed which supports the destruction of Israel, at least in rhetoric? Also its attempts to establish a pipeline route through Syria by armed support of anti Sunni majority forces?

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
  239. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    A 20% drop in traffic is a serious matter. Clearly injury has occurred.

    Can you please clarify how the 20% figure was obtained?

    Is this something that Ron Unz himself has said? Or is it something that e.g. Vdare has said about its own traffic and you are assuming it applies to TUR as well?

  240. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @sarz

    I don’t know what Startpage’s business model is.

    I don’t either. Or at least the bit I do understand does not make complete sense.

    From what I can gather, Startpage is offering search results for free, but is hoping users will pay money to subscribe to StartMail (~$60 a year), their “private,” encrypted email service. $60 a year, of course, breaks down to $5 a month, a sum anyone can afford.

    The question is: how many people are willing to pay, no matter how nominal the fee, for email? My view is: not nearly enough to allow a search engine of any real size to remain a going concern.

    Where, then is their money coming from? Or is it simply a matter of Startpage being so small (Startpage’s press center claims six million searches daily, which is nothing in relative terms) that they haven’t had to worry much about it yet?

    Your guess is as good as mine. In fact, I would would love to hear your guess because it is probably a good deal better than mine.

  241. Biff says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Is your new line of work ‘comedian’ because you are quite funny. Haha…. ha.

  242. Nodwink says:

    It looks like you’ve made a new friend, Ron. Mazel tov!

  243. AnonfromTN 235, there’s nothing comparable in science, certainement, but math has its reward. To exploit mass illegal evictions or bust out hundreds of going concerns you need to know your gaussian copulas. To systematically loot municipalities you need the mathematical maturity to manipulate Black Scholes. Lawyers can do the contracting scutwork but they need constant supervision by the modelers who designed the tricks and traps.

  244. “This is worse than Pearl Harbor. This is worse than the World Trade Center.”

    Yeah, and CIA did it to us. Let’s hang those fuckers.

    There’s something about institutional impunity that makes you push it and push it until you’re a cornered rabid dog that has to be put down. CIA’s compulsive shredding of the rule of law has made them enemies of all mankind, including nuclear-armed allied P-5 powers, and now they’re panicking. They’re trying to blame their COVID-19 germ warfare on China. They’re trying to blame 9/11 on Trump by tying al-Jarrah to him. They’re trying to blame their illegal surveillance on Biden by making him the poster boy for their giant ‘unmasking’ loophole.

    War is CIA’s only hope of getting away with their crimes. War with China, war with Russia, internecine civil war, they don’t give a shit, anything to keep their flabby coward asses out of prison. Let’s just give the last four DCIs a lethal injection of acetylthiofentanyl, spray a little into the NHB, and let bygones be bygones. Transitional justice!

  245. @Wizard of Oz

    True. But my post at 229 shows that these “inserts,” which everyone seems to be relying on for evidence a human design, were all found in a bat carona virus in 2013 and Covid 2019 would be an evolutionary descendant of that virus.

    • Replies: @Erebus
  246. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    My point is much much more basic and stupid then foreign policy nuance.

    Can it really be said that the aspect of a foreign policy that cuts such a wide swathe of destruction and has killed tens of millions over a period of decades is a mere nuance of that policy? Is it possible that killing people, stealing their resources, and ruining their countries is the entire raison d’État of that policy?

    My point is that psychological staple people who inhabit and govern the West do not set our to be suicidal martyrs

    If the leaders who govern the west are psychologically stable, I haven’t seen much evidence for it. If you’ve been focussed on their rhetoric, I would invite you to instead redirect your attention to their actions, which would appear to suggest something other than psychological stability.

    in a quest to inflict mass murder for a religious philosophy as expressed in Islamic religious doctrines by Islamic religious leaders

    Do you suppose it might be possible to condone and engage in mass murder as the result of adhering to an ideological outlook rather than a religious one?

    While it would certainly save a lot of time and trouble if all the nutters could be identified by the Qur’ans in their hands, I can’t help but notice that the countries carrying out large-scale drone strikes and bombing raids are all western ones (with the noteworthy exception of the Saudis who, let’s face it, could not have meddled in Yemen for longer than ten minutes without western support).

    such as the Muslim brotherhood founder Said Q’tub in his Magnus opus Under the Shade of the Quran volumes of books dedicated to destabilizing the west for the emergence of Islamic hegemony thru mass murder. Is there a Western document that is similar to that?

    It is a decidedly secular document, but do take a look at the Statement of Principles released by the Project for the New American Century. You can find it here:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20050205041635/http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

    In the 23 years since it was released, America has gone on “to challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values” (among other things), just like it says on the tin.

    (Alas, in the haste to “challenge regimes” and “promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad,” America has concomitantly abandoned the principles that once made it so admired and respected throughout the world and has, in large part, destroyed itself.)

    In light of what has happened since it was written nearly a quarter-century ago, the Statement of Principles is an impressive document indeed. No doubt Sayyid Qutb did his best, but his Shade of the Qur’an takes up 30 volumes and who is going to stick around to read all that? I ask you.

    The PNAC chappies got to the point in the space of a single page.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  247. @Wizard of Oz

    See, I told you: you don’t need to be an idiot to believe idiotic fairy tales. And that’s after inglorious flop of Mueller “investigation” and the whole Russiagate thing.

    Tell you what, if there were a way to swing $2 billion election for a few hundred thousand in ads, the person discovering it would become a god of American political manipulators.

    As to Trump-Hillary choice, if I had to make it, I’d choose Trump over Hillary every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Even though I have no relations with KGB/FSB (except that KGB likely had a file on me in 1980-91, as I used to say what I think, not what the government wanted me to think). Hillary is corrupt to the core warmonger, possibly mad (at least her mad witch cackle when she talked about grisly murder of Gaddafi suggests that). She is a liar, too, but that distinction she shares with Trump. She cheated Sanders out of nomination. What’s more, she is a criminal under American law: keeping SecState emails on a private server is a federal crime. Luckily, in TN you don’t need to vote: Dem nominee, whoever s/he is, has no chance.

    Aggressiveness of Iran is a neocon invention. Iran did not attack anyone for many centuries, in sharp contrast to neocon-run US or its “friend” Israel. Besides, it was not Iran who wanted a pipeline across Syria and financed jihadist scum to make it happen. BTW, Syrian government army mostly consists of Sunnis. In fact, Syrian Sunnis who had a misfortune to live in jihadist-controlled areas now vehemently support Assad: compared to the forces propped up by the US, its vassals, and Israel, Assad is a godsend, a paragon of democracy and exemplary observer of human rights.

    Accusing Maduro of drug trafficking is even more ridiculous, especially considering what the US is doing in Afghanistan and what the US “friends” Colombia and Ecuador are doing.

    • Replies: @Jazman
    , @Wizard of Oz
  248. @Anonymous

    Of course, the United States must be prudent in how it exercises its power. But we cannot safely avoid the responsibilities of global leadership or the costs that are associated with its exercise. America has a vital role in maintaining peace and security in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. If we shirk our responsibilities, we invite challenges to our fundamental interests. The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire. The history of this century should have taught us to embrace the cause of American leadership

    .

    I see nothing in that document promoting mass murder. The West defeated Communism without firing a shot. Stood by Europe in WW1 and 2, and defeated slavery during the civil war. We also defended Muslims in Serbia with the brake up of Yugoslavia. I would stand by the principles of democratic countries in the West, and work to defend them. That is not to say that we did not make a lot of mistakes. I do not see a mass murder scenarios.

    In light of what has happened since it was written nearly a quarter-century ago, the Statement of Principles is an impressive document indeed. No doubt Sayyid Qutb did his best, but his Shade of the Qur’an takes up 30 volumes and who is going to stick around to read all that? I ask you.

    Obviously it has spurred a lot of Islamic fundamentalism. Al Qaeda, ISIS., Hamas, to name a fes.

  249. @Wizard of Oz

    As far as criminal law is concerned, the case of O.J. Simpson showed that a murderer with a lot of money can get off. The fact that his lawyers took all his money from him is poetic justice – at least the murderer is now poor.

    But most law money is not in criminal justice. There are two major areas for serious sharks. One is corporate law, and the other is lawsuits against rich entities. Corporations, being guilty, pay lawyers mostly to settle out of court. The cases around Vioxx are a good example. The best example of the second direction, which includes class action suits (where lawyers also get the lion’s share of the bounty), is the case of a woman who poured hot McDonalds coffee into the wrong orifice.

    • Replies: @Alden
  250. Levtraro says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    Regarding SARS-CoV-2 being prone to mutate (would that be mutatious?) in fact coronoviruses are one of the few RNA viruses sporting a genomic proofreading mechanism to weed out mutations that could weaken it. So antivirals that cause mutations (e.g. ribavirin) don’t work with coronaviruses.

    What they do though is to recombine. So if one type of coronavirus finds itself with another type of coronovirus in the same cell, they happily swap chunks of RNA, potentially giving rise to new abilities like infecting other types of cells or jumping to other species.

    However, replicating trillions of times will indeed in all likelihood eventually lead to advantageous mutations that will be kept instead of being removed by the proofreading mechanism.

    • Thanks: davidgmillsatty
    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  251. DB Cooper says:
    @anonymous

    Here are some articles the MSM never reported on India:

    http://oneworld.press/?module=search&action=list&text=India

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  252. Wank Tank says:

    Statist obsessives like davidgmilsssattyy will fixate on amateur bafflegab for people who last took science in eighth grade. Then statist obsessives at the Atlantic will point and jeer at gmillsssatttyy and everybody who takes him seriously, “Ha, ha! Conspircy nuts! Thr-Ile mutation! 12-bp insertions! Ha ha Ha Ha!” That is exactly what they did to hide the JFK coup, with ballistics bullshit, and 9/11, with WTC demolition minutiae – fixate on trivia like a nut and ignore the big probative picture.

    That works good – until you piss off great powers with superior missile technology and industrial base. Then this happens, leaving davidgmillsssattty to wank furiously in cyberspace till corona kills him.

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1188405.shtml

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  253. @Wank Tank

    Can you write a paragraph or two of simple English so that someone has a clue as to what you are saying? Statist? Bullshit!

    You have not fucking clue who I am or what I think.

    I am just someone trying to understand the biochemistry, microbiology, and genetics of a virus before I am going to cast dispersion and unfounded accusations at anyone or at my country or any other country. I happen to believe in getting the facts right. It may be a quaint idea.

    • Replies: @Billy Shears
  254. For somebody who’s “trying to understand,” you’re awfully sure that it wasn’t a BWC-illegal biological weapon, so don’t gimme that high-dudgeon shit. It is telling that you avoid the big picture so intently. In your outrage you conveniently forgot to address the link with Russia and China’s official public démarche adverting to the documented pattern of behavior of CIA biosecurity. You lawyers, we can tell you’re lying cause your lips are moving.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  255. @Wank Tanker

    Really? It might surprise you to know that I initially thought it could well be a bioweapon. Serious investigation into the matter changed my mind.

    I really try hard not to let ideology bias or prejudice my investigation into the facts.

    I am completely open to the idea that this could be a bioweapon if someone can come up with some virology research that indicates that. All I have ever seen is the Indian paper that suggested it might be the case. The paper was quickly withdrawn when challenged. The challenges seemed very legit.

    I have yet to see any other research that suggests this virus was man-made. Have you got a link to some research that indicates it is?

    And the ad hominems don’t help your argument. It’s also not civil.

  256. @Levtraro

    That is fascinating. You obviously understand this stuff. I have looked at what you have written. From now on you write and I will read.

  257. We don’t take assignments from random yammering internet schmuks. You’ve been sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling “NA-NA-NA!” every time someone puts a relevant link in front of your nose. Even for a lawyer, you’re remarkably dishonest and manipulative. This is not like your old brown-shoe shyster law firm, there are smart people here. That passive-aggressive shit don’t work. You have again avoided the link that started this exchange under cover of more nasal whining.

    You clearly have no experience of relevant collateral so you’re talking out your ass from the get-go. You don’t even know what collateral is, Do you? You are even ignorant of the open-source background such as MacQueen’s The 2001 Anthrax Deception, or this,

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/35787903

    which shows that you have no idea what you’re talking about. So fuck off.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  258. @Iris

    Jews are not mass murderers Iris, Muslims are not all Muslims. But Islam does allow for mass murderers and celebrate suicide bombers as martyrs, and name streets after them.
    You must be feel so awful about this that you need to project this on to someone else to ease your guilt.
    The 19 pilots were Saudis. Planes flew into the buildings. Sorry Iris enjoy your fantasies. If it makes you feel better.

  259. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:

    imo UR deserves to be banned for running articles by Corona-deniers and ageist scum like Heiner Rindermann who want the elderly to die, so young assholes can continue with mindless hedonism and promiscuous sex.

  260. I suspect The Unz Review itself has just been blocked in Australia now as well. For about 12 hours I’ve been unable to view this site unless I use a VPN that defines this pooter as being on foreign shores. I shouldn’t really be surprised that one of the world’s most enthusiastically regulated nations, with such a proudly subservient populace bolstering the ugly confidence of the regulators, would so easily regard this silencing as necessary for maintaining a perception of moral health that is almost entirely of their own construction. I’ll be reminded of this tomorrow on my drive to work, watching virtually no vehicle be driven a single kilometer per hour over the speed limit, with many up to 5kph below it. The need for irreverence to extend beyond comfortable social gatherings, entertainment media and stand up comedy performances is highlighted starkly here in Downunderland.

  261. d dan says:

    The deep state has sent so many agents, on so many occasions, in so many ways, to persuade, nudge, seduce, threaten, warn and reason with Ron Unz to drop his biowarfare theory. Ron steadfastly refuses to budge to all those commenters.

    Hence the ban.

  262. @Fran Taubman

    The West defeated Communism without firing a shot. Stood by Europe in WW1 and 2, and defeated slavery during the civil war. We also defended Muslims in Serbia with the brake up of Yugoslavia. 

    Madam, this is not even ridiculous.

    The US killed millions of civilians in Korea and Vietnam.

    “… stood by Europe …” — is that your way of saying “… gave Eastern Europe to the Bolsheviks …”?

  263. Jazman says:
    @AnonFromTN

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUptFMHUYAAX7Xu?format=jpg&name=900×900
    According to DEA 85% coming from US friendly vassal country Columbia

  264. Huskynut says:

    Ron,
    Early in the Covid conversation I asked whether there was a means you could present alternate information/viewpoints with a means to sort them by argument rather than having to read every single post on every single thread.
    “A big ask” I was challenged (not by you) and yes it was.
    I’ve reflected on it, and here’s a suggestion – what if there were a means of contributors creating “memes” to compete.
    Each meme needs (a self-created) specification, including nuances, edge cases/exceptions etc. Eg for Covid, the meme might include a correlation model (eg with population density).
    External (thread) participants can assess and challenge the merit of specific memes. Meme owners can defend and/or modify their memes in response.
    The purpose is to host a platform which facilitates the development of the most merit-worthy meme, and crowd-test it against the global data. It’s most certainly not AI, but at the current point of AI development (ie pattern recognition at best), it’s almost certainly more accurate and functional than AI (on these kinds of topics)
    I live in NZ, which has done well by life-lost standards, but has also done poorly in terms of over-reaction vis-a-vis Australia. There is currently little (effective) way to have this discussion – a competing models “arena” would provide this.

  265. @Delta G

    Zuckerberg a faggot? May be. More like a semi autistic. When the deep state princess kisses the frog, the frog will transform into a prince. Same story for Bezos and the rest of the clique whose technology derived from DARPA.

  266. @res

    I think the bottom line of what davidgmillsatty is saying is that a supposed virus designer would have had enough knowledge to know the consequences of his act. That would include the mutations. Your only disagreement seems to be that he is possibly implying that the mutation propensity could be manipulated, whereas you apparently say it could not. That is a minor point, and actually strengthens his argument, as the designer would have to be even dumber if that propensity was *not* subject to control by him.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
  267. @Wank Spanker

    If this comment was meant for me here is my response.

    To lazy to investigate? Anthrax is not coronavirus. Period. Huge differences between the two.

    9/11 dealt with physics and engineering and I have been a 9/11 truther from the get-go. Going on 20 years. But life sciences are entirely different from non-life sciences. So just because I accept one position on 9/11 doesn’t mean I should accept the same position on coronavirus.

    And if the coronovirus is man-made there seems to be better evidence that it was made by China researchers not American ones. I am looking into that. But genetics is extremely technical stuff.

    You have an agenda and anything that doesn’t fit it, you throw out. Or stick your head in the sand. I try not to have agendas. I try to go with facts and let the chips fall where they may.

  268. 179.Fran Taubman says:

    “I do not think anyone in any Western government would commit the kind of mass murder I listed above.”

    Really? Well, your good friend Madeleine Albright killed at least 500,000 Iraqi infants by deliberately targeting the water supplies and sanctioning replacements. And on 60 Minutes she famously said “Yes, it was worth it” – the pleasure of it, she meant.

    And how dare you post those outrageous lies about the IDF not killing children? How dare you? I have hundreds of photos of Palestinian children killed by the IDF, primarily by being shot in the head. And I have the story for every one of those killings.

    Maybe you would like to account for the shelling from a gunboat of the small boys playing on the beach. Maybe you would like to comment on Chris Hedges’ experience in Israel where he said he’d seen many people shot in other nations, but never seen soldiers bait small children like mice to show themselves and then kill them just for fun. The title of his very long article was “Murdering children for sport”.

    I think it’s well past time for the cowardly world to stop being afraid of the Israelis and the International Jews and to stand up and tell the truth. And to hell with accusations of anti-Semitism.

    Your Hasbara manual tells you that “fear is easily manipulated”. Maybe, but there’s an end to that. People become tired of being afraid, and that fear morphs into anger and resolution, and then it doesn’t stop.

    • Thanks: Ann Nonny Mouse
  269. Yngvar says:
    @Ayatollah Smith

    Well, your good friend Madeleine Albright killed at least 500,000 Iraqi infants by deliberately targeting the water supplies and sanctioning replacements.

    It was 250.000, but anyways the blame lay solely on the Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein for not heeding the call from the rest of the world to be reasonable.

    I have hundreds of photos of Palestinian children killed by the IDF, primarily by being shot in the head.

    No, you don’t.

    I think it’s well past time for the cowardly world to stop being afraid of the Israelis and the International Jews and to stand up and tell the truth.

    But still the world persist, India and China foremost, ignoring this ‘truth’, because it does not conform to reality.

    Your Hasbara manual tells you that “fear is easily manipulated”. Maybe, but there’s an end to that.

    You don’t now anything about the manual. And its not that.

    • Troll: Iris, Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Art
  270. Art says:
    @Ayatollah Smith

    I think it’s well past time for the cowardly world to stop being afraid of the Israelis and the International Jews and to stand up and tell the truth. And to hell with accusations of anti-Semitism.

    The place to do that is in your local Democrat and Republican party halls. The Jews control everything national. Doing anything nationally is hopeless. Eventually the Jews will own everything either out right or through debt. They will own everything BUT OUR VOTE.

    The only way we can expressive ourselves – is with the vote. Our power is our organized vote. The place to start is local.

    If you live in a Dem district – then join the Dem Party – ditto the Republican Party. Show up – speak out – defend America vigorously – demand a vote – go to the next meeting – you will lose until you don’t!

    That is the only bloodless way forward. All other approaches are useless.

    Stop bitching. Stop fighting with Muslims. Stop fighting over Hitler. Take power locally. When the Jew controlled national Federal government fails (and it will) be politically organized and ready to take control of city and state.

    • Agree: FLgeezer
  271. Art says:
    @Yngvar

    I have hundreds of photos of Palestinian children killed by the IDF, primarily by being shot in the head.

    No, you don’t.

    Go play with yourself in Hasbara land!

    Israel is full of trash just like Little Jew you — always willing to get in our face and LIE.

    You represent the inferior Jew culture.

  272. 277.Yngvar says:

    “It was 250.000, but anyways the blame lay solely on the Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein for not heeding the call from the rest of the world to be reasonable.”

    Surely you must have some idea of the vicious inanity of your comment. “If you aren’t reasonable, I will kill all the babies in your country and it will be your fault.” And yes, it was at least 500,000, to say nothing of the elderly and infirm who died.

    I have hundreds of photos of Palestinian children killed by the IDF, primarily by being shot in the head.

    “No, you don’t.”

    Your Hasbara manual tells you that “fear is easily manipulated”. Maybe, but there’s an end to that.

    “You don’t now anything about the manual. And its not that.”

    Your debating skills are without parallel. “I’m right, you’re wrong. I win.” Give me your email address and I’ll send you the photos. I also have photos of nearly 50 schools in Gaza that the IDF bombed to rubble, including the UN school and several International schools – while the children were still inside, hiding in fear. I also have dozens of photos of Jewish settlers chopping down and burning Palestinian olive trees under the watchful protection of IDF soldiers. I also have photos of IDF soldiers driving by Palestinian farms and shooting dead all the farm animals. I’ll send those to you as well.

    And I have full copies of the Israel-issued Hasbara Manual for university students, with pages of coaching Jewish students on how to lie, how to intimidate others and how to instill fear of being labeled ‘anti-Semitic’ so no one dares question Israel’s atrocities.

    I also have screenshots of Israel’s “50-cent army”, where the Israeli government offers to pay US$0.50 to every Jewish student who can make a positive post about Israel or the Jews, or who can post a lie to deflect criticism.

    I also have screenshots of Israel’s Wikipedia army, asking all Jews everywhere to troll that website and remove any comments critical of Israel or the Jews and replace it with bullshit.

    I have much more. In fact, these items fill a 600-page book that will soon be going to print. Give me your address and I’ll send you a copy.

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike, Art, Robjil
    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  273. 278.Art says:

    “The only way we can expressive ourselves – is with the vote. Our power is our organized vote. The place to start is local.”

    Art, you don’t understand. Multi-Party Democracy is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on humans. It is not what you believe it to be. You just need to think.

    The power in this system does not lie in the voting, but in the selection of candidates. If I and one of my friends control the two party machines, we – not you – choose the candidates, and we choose only those whom we have already bought and on whom we have enough dirt to destroy. Once we select the candidates, we don’t care who you vote for. We don’t care if you vote at all. The result will be the same. We don’t much care what those candidates do when elected, so long as they do the specific things we tell them to do – mostly to betray the US in favor of Israel and Jewish political and financial interests.

    Use your head. Every political candidate in the US receives most of their campaign financing and staff from Jewish interests. The condition – arranged in advance – is that they will subordinate their country to Jewish interests in all areas where those arise. Those candidates are all selected by me, not by you. Everything is pre-confirmed before you as a voter get involved. All your effort is for nothing. You are engaged in a foolish game of ‘let’s pretend’. The results of the election don’t matter because I own both candidates.

    If you don’t believe this, look at the voting records of all your congresmen and senators. Find one who voted against supplying Israel with unlimited free military supplies. Find one who voted against moving the capital to Jerusalem. Find one who voted against the Jews persecuting the Palestinians. Find even one who said anything critical against Israel. Paul Craig Roberts was right: Washington is Israeli-occupied territory. Of the top 600 positions in your national government, more than 400 of those are filled by Jews. All you need do is look at the lists.

    There has never, in the history of the world, been anything resembling “government of the people, by the people, for the people”. Never.

    Here’s something to think about. Everyone knows the Jews were kicked out of country after country, for at least 1,000 years. That wasn’t done from anti-Semitism but because of their crimes, primarily white slave trading and tax farming. Few people seem aware that European countries had two sets of revolutions, not just one. The International financial Jews arranged the revolutions to rid nations of their monarchs because they were tired of being expelled from so many countries, but that didn’t help because they had the same problems with the new monarch.

    Those Jews weren’t stupid. The next time they did it better. They said to the population, “You don’t need a king. We will install a new kind of government – by the people. WE will be the king, and we will manage ourselves. No more high taxes, no more capricious omnipotent and cruel monarchs. We will have government of the people, by the people and for the people. Life will be perfect.” How could you resist? But instead of forming a government, they formed two parties, one of peace-makers and the other of war-mongers – the political left and right who are always at each other’s throats. And they controlled the party offices and selected and financed the candidates. And that’s when – suddenly – the Jews weren’t kicked out of countries any more.

    Do some research. The facts are not so difficult to locate. And then think about your great ‘democracy’ in the US. You people are so blind, so overwhelmed by propaganda and fiction, that you cannot see anything clearly. I pity you.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Nuncle
  274. Vojkan says:

    A hundred folks signing a full-page ad on the NYT and supported by a progressive NGO from the Soros nebula, well, https://www.thefreedictionary.com/conspiracy. They sort of defeat their own argument.

  275. @AnonFromTN

    Thanks for reply. I think the trivial Russian interference with the 2016 election would be consistent with Putin assessing it as very low risk and as a learning experience and experiment. Now here is an interview on Australian ABC Radio National which is always hosted by a lefty, even when Phillip Adams (who resigned from the Communist Party in 1956) isn’t available. This time the person interviewed is Catherine Belton, a Moscow correspondent for about 20 years. Her book “Putin’s People” seems to be a well informed account of Putin’s rise but also how the smart KGB people who knew by 1990 that the Soviet Union couldn’t compete with the West without faster economic reform than Gorbachev had initiated had decided not to arrest Yeltsin but instead prevented the hardliners smashing him and the would be democrats who supported him.
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/the-tangled-financial-web-linking-russia-to-the-west/12245246

    Any quibbles with that?

    PS Apparently KGB/FSB money laundering led to there being $800 billion cash in the West – mostly London (and supporting Trump?) – and the same in Russia! One of the ways the network of KGB people ended up with serious money was that they persuaded the Communist Party toilet them protect its assets by turning them into cash in London. Then the Communist Party imploded and the money remained with the launderers.

  276. anastasia says:

    Why in the world would they be banning your site in regard to Covid-19? Your site is promoting the party line completely.
    You should complain.

  277. @Ron Unz

    I don’t know, this is the merest speculation on my part, but perhaps, assuming that this was a bioweapon loosed on Wuhan during the Games by an American agent; perhaps his or his controllers’ thought was, that it would cripple the Chinese economy and after that the US would be well able to keep it out and deal with any specimens that managed to get in. After all, they gave the WH plenty of time to do just that and they had no idea, no reason to think, that Trump’s response would be so lacking in urgency.

    So what I am suggesting is that there may have been two major miscalculations that led to the present situation. The first miscalculation was of the speed, scale and effectiveness of the Chinese response and the second was the failure to factor in the possible lackadaisical response of the USG.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  278. @Ayatollah Smith

    Chris Hedges is a known liar. He never saw any child killed in Gaza, he made it up. Israelis/Jews do not murder children.

    https://www.camera.org/article/chris-hedges-harper-s-and-israel/

    [MORE]

    Hedges, while he mentions that Israel “gained control of the camp after 1967,” neglects to mention – purposefully, it appears – that since the Gaza-Jericho Agreement of 1994, Israel no longer has any authority over the camp of Khan Younis. The Palestinian Authority does. If the camp has not been able to expand since 1994, this is solely because of the Palestinian Authority.
    Near the entrance to Dahaniya, soldiers became suspicious of a man driving a donkey cart. As he approached the soldiers, the man jumped from the cart and detonated explosives hidden in it…IDF sappers detonated the remaining bombs that failed to explode, among them four gas canisters and two mines.
    Soldiers on duty, already on edge, were aware that innocent looking Palestinians had tried to blow up other Israeli soldiers elsewhere in the Gaza Strip the same day. But Hedges did not even bother to report in his “diary” of events the attempted suicide bombing aimed at killing Israelis.
    Similarly, an armed Palestinian gang shot and killed a 12 year old Palestinian on June 16 in the town of Rafah in the Gaza Strip. Hedges, who was in Gaza at the time, makes no mention of this either. On June 18 it was reported in The Jerusalem Post:
    Yesterday, Palestinians, who had blamed Israel for the death of another 12 year-old boy near Rafah on Saturday, admitted that the boy had been killed by an armed opposition faction operating in Rafah. According to reports, a dispute broke out between Palestinian security officials and an armed gang that shot at soldiers near Rafah Yam.
    The Palestinian security officials demanded that the armed gang leave, and as they drove off gang members began shooting at random, mortally wounding Suliman Massari, 12, who was in a car, and wounding several other passengers.
    • Notably, Thomas L. Friedman, a colleague of Hedges’ at The New York Times, wrote an op-ed (“Saudi Royals and Reality”, October 16, 2001) with what might have been an allusion to Chris Hedges’ falsehoods and deceptions in “A Gaza Diary.”
    [T]o suggest that Israel is slaughtering Palestinians for sport, as if a war were not going on there, which Israel did not court, in which civilians on both sides are being killed… – is just a lie.
    Friedman added that; “Normally such casual lying doesn’t bother me. It’s a staple of Middle East politics, but this particular version is dangerous, because it masks a deeper lie that can hurt us. I call it “the virgin birth problem.” Friedman was referring to a lack of Arab accountability not only regarding the Palestinian violence plaguing Israel for the past year but the larger problem of Arab hatred for the West which was brought home on September 11.

    • Troll: GazaPlanet, Nuncle
  279. Art says:
    @Ayatollah Smith

    I thank you for your great informative comments.

    “The only way we can expressive ourselves – is with the vote. Our power is our organized vote. The place to start is local.”

    Art, you don’t understand. Multi-Party Democracy is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on humans. It is not what you believe it to be. You just need to think.

    The power in this system does not lie in the voting, but in the selection of candidates.

    There has never, in the history of the world, been anything resembling “government of the people, by the people, for the people”. Never.

    And then think about your great ‘democracy’ in the US. You people are so blind, so overwhelmed by propaganda and fiction, that you cannot see anything clearly. I pity you.

    I agree with your facts– but – not your total hopeless pessimism. Rome fell and it was replaced with a period of local city state rule that was relatively peaceful. The great nation state “Rome” was replaced by something better – Christian based idealistic local control. That is Western history. Now we have reverted back to nation state empire. The pendulum must swing again.

    The Western nations are approaching total serfdom to Jew money. They will catastrophically fail, and it will be obvious why. (Trump with his Wall Street economic recovery is just prolonging the outcome.)

    Good people with good idealistic intentions can take local control. What better do we have to do then to fight the good fight?

    • Replies: @Black Picard
  280. @Ayatollah Smith

    I have much more. In fact, these items fill a 600-page book that will soon be going to print. Give me your address and I’ll send you a copy.

    Open Thread #2 is here:

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/open-thread-2/#comments

    We’d like to see you there, and, if possible, please make your material accessible to us without the need for email correspondence. I, for one, am very interested in acquiring a copy of it.

    Also, there’s a hot thread on the anniversary of The Nakba here:

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/remembering-palestine-on-nakba-day-use-the-hashtag-covid1948/

    We could use you and a few more good men there post haste. The usual suspects are descending on the thread like never before.

  281. @Ron Unz

    If anyone cares to go and look at the articles republished in Yahoo! from the Independent, Guardian, Daily Mail, Reuters, Bloomberg and all the rest it is a real hate-fest of anti-Chinese diatribe and outright lies. The correspondence about the articles has even more concentrated hate. I doubt that anyone in any sort of authority is going even to remark on it, never mind close it down.

  282. Ron Unz says:
    @foolisholdman

    I don’t know, this is the merest speculation on my part, but perhaps, assuming that this was a bioweapon loosed on Wuhan during the Games by an American agent…So what I am suggesting is that there may have been two major miscalculations that led to the present situation. The first miscalculation was of the speed, scale and effectiveness of the Chinese response and the second was the failure to factor in the possible lackadaisical response of the USG.

    Sure, that’s very much my own reconstruction of what happened, as I presented in detail in my long article of a couple of weeks ago:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    • Replies: @Monty Ahwazi
    , @Bert
  283. Olorin says:
    @Jimmy1969

    Your observation points to a larger issue: the use of Big Data harvesting autobot platforms that pose as communication platforms.

    Another example is the “keep in touch with your neighbors” product NextDoor…which is in fact a massive and granular voter tracking and election strategy tool.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/13/technology/nextdoor-elections-politics-nyt.html

    If paywalled try

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nextdoor-social-network-aims-to-be-a-better-platform-for-politics/

  284. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I see nothing in that document promoting mass murder.

    That is unfortunate, because very few people who are about to embark on a course of mass murder are obliging enough to announce their intentions in crystal-clear language beforehand: it’s poor salesmanship. Rather, the tendency is to dress the mass murder up in high-flown rhetoric. The PNAC was no exception.

    When the PNAC folks were talking about “challeng[ing] regimes hostile to our interests and values,” I hope you were not under the impression they intended to do it by writing a few green-ink letters to the NYT and leaving it at that.

    Sadly, by the time that group was done, tens of millions of people lay dead, Iraq and Afghanistan were ruined (admittedly, one could hardly tell in the latter case), and America was hated and feared to an extent hitherto unknown.

    [MORE]

    The West defeated Communism without firing a shot.

    Madam, when communism finally collapsed, it was in spite of what the West did, not because of what the West did.

    I’m guessing the name of Antony C. Sutton doesn’t have much currency around here (though I would prefer to be mistaken about this, and delighted to hear from anyone familiar with his work). Well, Mr. Sutton did what scholars like to give the impression of doing, and what scholars enjoy being praised for doing, but which they almost never, in actuality, do: he told the truth. What Mr. Sutton told the truth about was the relationship between the communists and the West.

    Specifically, he told about how the West funded the communists in the very beginning (https://archive.org/download/pdfy-L83jbkzuI6b1FZ2y/Sutton%20-%20Wall%20Street%20and%20the%20Bolshevik%20Revolution%20%281974%29.PDF) and went on to support them with the loans and technology transfers (https://archive.org/download/BestEnemyMoneyCanBuy1986/best%20enemy%20money%20can%20buy%20%281986%29.pdf) that were critical to keep them going for the next three-quarters of a century until the USSR collapsed under its own weight.

    Naturally, his letting the cat out of the bag about how the communists were actively supported by the West went over like a lead zeppelin. Mr. Sutton had enjoyed a career as a research fellow at the Hoover Institution for half a decade, a career which scarcely lasted half an hour after his first book came out detailing how it was that the USSR was very much a Western construct, and how the MIC was working hard to support the very people it ostensibly was trying to prevent from harming Western interests.

    Anyway, I’ve given the links to his two most popular books if you would care to read them. Whether you choose to is, of course, up to you.

    Stood by Europe in WW1

    My own (possibly faulty) understanding of American intervention in the First World War is this: the American financier JP Morgan organized a syndicate of about 2,200 banks and floated a loan of $500,000,000 to the Allies. Sometime in 1917, the Allies had a chat with him that went something like this:

    “Mr. Morgan, after three years of fighting, the outcome of the war is still very much in doubt. Suffice it to say that if we, the Allies, lose the war, you, Mr. Morgan will lose your money, because all of the loans you have extended to the Allies will then become worthless.”

    American troops appeared in Europe shortly after.

    Put another way: American intervention in WWI had a lot less to do with the Americans standing by Europe and a lot more to do with standing by JP Morgan to make sure he and his consortium of banks didn’t lose their money.

    and 2

    I am not entirely convinced that pointing to America’s treatment of Europe in WWII as a good thing is such a hot idea. I’ve noticed how Americans are quick to talk about defeating the Nazis (and well done, that), but what is almost never mentioned is the fact that the Americans defeated the Nazis only to immediately hand Eastern Europe over to the Russians so that the Europeans could live under the iron heel of the communists for the next half-century.

    You could call the American conduct of the war a lot of things, certainly, but “standing by Europe” would not appear to be one of them.

    and defeated slavery during the civil war.

    The sad fact of the matter is that Lincoln cared nothing for the slaves; I do not ask you to take my word for this. Rather, you can read A. Lincoln’s letter to Horace Greeley (editor of the influential New York Tribune), written in 1862, in which he lays out in unmistakable terms just what he thinks of the slaves:

    http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm

    Lincoln himself said in the above letter that he was fighting to preserve the union (i.e. his ability to issue edicts to the rest of America and have them obeyed). If the slaves were freed, it happened as a mere by-product of his desire to maintain federal power over the rest of America. As he said in his own words, if maintaining slavery would have maintained the union, he would never have freed so much as a single slave.

    I would stand by the principles of democratic countries in the West, and work to defend them. That is not to say that we did not make a lot of mistakes. I do not see a mass murder scenarios.

    If I may take the liberty of saying so (and at the risk of sounding unkind), your writings convey the distinct impression that you are the sort who would not be able to see a mass murder scenario were it taking place before your very eyes. With any luck, I have badly misconstrued what you have written and the fault lies entirely on my end.

    In any case, you need not worry about my making a nuisance of myself any more: with the exception of the below Parthian shot, I have no future plans to respond to any more of your posts (what would be the point when your mind is already made up?). I only wrote the above in a (no doubt misguided) attempt to underscore the fact that it isn’t what you know that gets you into trouble, but rather, it’s the things you believe you know that are not so: those “principles of democratic countries” of which you speak might not be the same ones you yourself have in mind when it comes to how you would like your own country to be perceived by other countries.

    You know, apart from asking the odd question or two, I rarely engage with people on message boards for a reason: because, with few exceptions, people on message boards are seeking affirmation of their pre-existing views and are not seeking newer, possibly better information that might lead to their having to change those views. As my writing no doubt indicates, I am not a very clever chap and, as a consequence, I frequently lose sight of the above. I thank you for recalling me to myself and reminding me of what is actually important (note to self: it isn’t quibbling with strangers on message boards).

    [Sayyid Qutb did his best, but his Shade of the Qur’an takes up 30 volumes and who is going to stick around to read all that? I ask you.]

    Obviously it has spurred a lot of Islamic fundamentalism. Al Qaeda, ISIS., Hamas, to name a fes.

    I can assure you that, without question, the greatest recruiting tool the Islamists were ever given was American foreign policy in the Middle East. Until the Americans invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, Bin Laden could only rant and rave about how the Westerners were “crusaders” who were out to kill them.

    After the Americans appeared and the bodies started stacking up, however (the bodies, more often than not, being the wrong ones), Bin Laden could then point to what the Americans themselves had done and tell the Arab world, “See? Told you.”

    Compared to America’s “own goal” in the Middle East, Sayyid Qutb was just wasting his time.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  285. Richard B says:
    @Harvey

    I cannot even remember the last time that we featured an article having that theme.

    That seems like an odd thing to say given the Overview and Mission Statement of TUR as stated in “Why The Unz Review?”

  286. Richard B says:
    @Sally Snyder

    Americans who protest en masse against government COVID-based restrictions, those who do not maintain a six foot distance from others or those who ignore other government-mandated restrictions including social isolation and self-quarantining could technically be seen to be involved in the intentional spread of the COVID-19 virus, finding themselves charged with an act of terrorism.

    From that perspective Social Distancing is the anti-Freedom of Speech and Assembly repellent used by the hostile elite on the host population.

    It’s what they started with.

    However, it’s also turned out to be self-refuting and self-incriminating.

    Since the government has been involved in the intentional spread of the virus.

    Does that mean We The People get to charge them with an act of terrorism?

    That’s a rhetorical question, of course.

    This whole thing is about dissolving We The People, forever.

  287. Alden says:
    @Colin Wright

    I’m with you. Covid hoax is just a normal flu season.

    The lockdown because of the hoax is something else entirely.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  288. As a pointer SouthFront has been named a psyop by the Russian government too, because they criticise their decision making as well.

    Also, amazingly it’s not just FB – you can’t even send p2p links on FB messenger either, which is a new development to me! That really was the last straw for me, so I locked myself out with a fake email and fake passwords, so I could never even consider re-entering that pit.

    I think they know the blackout strategy though. It limits the Streisand effect. ADL may have shouted in 2018, but if FB banned Unz then, you’d get more flow. Better to wait till the website is not in the public consciousness, and quietly sweep it under the rug.

  289. Turk 152 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Are you that thick? The average American has absolutely nothing in common with their criminal aristocratic rulers? You have never met an American who is capable of mass murder because Dick Cheney, the Bushes, the Clinton’s, the Rockefeller’s, the tiny few who reap all the benefits dont pal around with commoners.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  290. @Iris

    Fran, conveniently, appears to be supremely naive. Or, most likely, she poses as a “palatable” social troll for entertainment purposes since she’s an “artist”.

    I suspect her task is to waste other commenters’ precious time who respond to her utter nonsensical, ignorant replies. So avoid replying to her naive comments at all costs IF you value your precious time.

    Exhibit A:
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Fran+Taubman

    Just my 2 cents.

    • Agree: Biff
    • Thanks: Iris
  291. sally says:
    @James Solbakken

    RU uttered a Hypothesis : “The Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. ”

    That utterance is the beginning of a narrative which might develop into a full blown thesis:

    Hypothesis to be disproved (a Null Hypothesis) :
    Important to any hypothesis is to carefully define the words used to produce the hypothesis.
    Definitions:
    Agencies — an Agency of, or any branch of any government that supports or directs the governance of human occupants resident in America, Saudi Arabia, Britain, Israel, or Germany.
    Virus–a virus named SARS CoV-2, (Severe, Acute Respiratory Syndrome the 7th in a series of CoronaVirus, sarbecorona (orthro corona/virinae) virus, which infects its victims by contact of its spike (S1 and S2) protein with ACE-2 surface protein on airway and respiratory epithelial cells (as described in Nature, Science and elsewhere), and which infection is suspected to cause in humans blood clots, Pneumonia, Ischemia (acute hypoimea) and associated to vascular diabetes, obesity, age, hypertension, (and to enhance risk of kidney damage when ventilators are used).

    The problem to be studied involves tracking to the earliest Agency knowledge that a pandemic likely virus was circulating in human populations?
    No Agency knew before October 1, 1919 that the virus was circulating in human populations. Please prove October 1, 1919 is an incorrect date.

  292. Kapyong says:
    @TomSchmidt

    “Complain if you want about Zuck, and I use no FB products, but he is apparently a first-class coder and has built a culture around it.”

    Is he really ?
    Apparently no-one ever actually saw him code, but somehow he solved the intractable social media scaling problem working in his spare time for a few weekends. (He says he doesn’t code any more.)

    Seems it was really stolen from Michael McKibben’s Leader Technology with help of IBM’s Eclipse program and crooked lawyer James P. Chandler III.

    Zuckerberg’s comment : “let the hacking begin”.

  293. @Ayatollah Smith

    ‘Really? Well, your good friend Madeleine Albright killed at least 500,000 Iraqi infants by deliberately targeting the water supplies and sanctioning replacements.’

    I think people should appreciate that exaggeration undermines rather than reinforces their point.

    All your claims about Israel are valid. Too bad you led off with a demonstrable falsehood. Demographically, Iraq is a rather modest in size: itts population was around fourteen million people at the time sanctions were imposed, if memory serves. Even assuming a population growing at twice the replacement rate, there would still have only been around 400,000 ‘infants’ in the country altogether. So Albright couldn’t have killed 500,000; indeed, unless you can show total demographic collapse occurred as a result of the sanctions, the death toll couldn’t have been even a fraction of that.

    …and total demographic collapse didn’t occur in the nineties; just the opposite.

    https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/iraq-population/

    So what is one to make of your claim?

    Don’t exaggerate; it’s shooting yourself in the foot, rhetorically. I learned this — rather painfully — in adolescence. If you must lump in Albright’s actions with Israel’s crimes, I’d go with ’caused the death of thousands of infants…’ — that’d be much more defensible, and the same end would be served.

    • Replies: @Iris
  294. @Saggy

    Oh great! FaceCrack has Africa in their sights. How wonderful of Zuck & company to build an infrastructure that will be used to brainswash a majority of naive Africans who are too easily duped by “social media”. I’m sure browsing FaceCrack will be free of any broadband tariffs.

    Facebook is building a massive underwater cable around Africa, in an effort to bring more of the continent’s 1.3 billion inhabitants online…
    It’s tasked Nokia-owned cable systems provider Alcatel Submarine Networks with building the subsea cable. At 37,000 kilometers — or about 22,991 miles — in length, Facebook claims the cable will be “nearly equal to the circumference of the Earth.”

    source: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/14/facebook-building-undersea-cable-in-africa-to-boost-internet-access.html

    Oh boy, we are fcuked! Interesting propagandistic times ahead when that massive Deep State “freedom cable” is fully operational, eh? 🤔 👀

    Nevertheless, the move from Facebook highlights increased interest from Silicon Valley companies in Africa as a high-growth investment opportunity. Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey last year said he planned on moving to the region — though he recently had to “reevaluate” that ambition due to the coronavirus outbreak.

    Africa can NEVER EVER FREE herself from Western colonialism. The “resource curse” continues.

  295. @Anonymous

    @Fran Taubman
    I see nothing in that document promoting mass murder.’

    It’s bleakly amusing to note that Fran is essentially adopting the same argument Holocaust deniers rely on: ‘no written order from Hitler explicitly calling for the extermination of all Jews exists, so we know the Holocaust didn’t happen.’

  296. @Realist

    Unz is clueless about Facebook and his Jewish relatives. MIT (Technology Review) just went after Archive and the Wayback Machine claiming they should not save anything the Magic Jews don’t want. Now the idiots at Archive are going to put warning stickers on stuff etc. and make you sign in (so they can track you).

    Unz can’t see the Forest before the Trees. So you are going to talk to the Commies that Zuckerberg has installed to monitor Facebook. Good Luck! The reason they came after you now is because you have done a good job informing the public what’s really happening. Before they thought you would never get the readers and the influence you and your site now have.

    They want total control and they will get it unless we fight back. The Khazars are starting to get nervous because more and more people in the world are realizing what they really are and everything they control.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @Richard B
    , @Anonymous
  297. @Art

    Sorry, but it is well past the point of no return for the American Sheep who, by & large, sit back and meekly take it up the a$s by a group of unelected officials in the District of Criminals, NYC & London.

    While you sit back and have your manufactured left/right political charades, real people outside your borders suffer from your utter disregard to do the right thing: Get rid of the Deep State menace to society before WW3 is upon us. They are not going to fail unless citizens of good conscience collectively DO SOMETHING instead of continuously sitting around, debating & getting DIVIDED.

    Why U.S. Must Be Prosecuted for Its War Crimes Against Iraq – by Eric Zuesse

    [MORE]

    America’s leaders deceived the American public into perpetrating this invasion and occupation, of a foreign country (Iraq) that had never threatened the United States; and, so, this invasion and subsequent military occupation constitutes the very epitome of “aggressive war” — unwarranted and illegal international aggression. (Hitler, similarly to George W. Bush, would never have been able to obtain the support of his people to invade if he had not lied, or “deceived,” them, into invading and militarily occupying foreign countries that had never threatened Germany, such as Belgium, Poland and Czechoslovakia. This — Hitler’s lie-based aggressions — was the core of what the Nazis were hung for, and yet America now does it.)…

    On 29 September 2015, I headlined “GALLUP: ‘Iraqis Are the Saddest & One of the Angriest Populations in the World’,” and linked to Gallup’s survey of 1,000 individuals in each of 148 countries around the world, which found that Iraq had the highest “Negative Experience Score.” That score includes “sadness,” “physical pain,” “anger,” and other types of misery — and Iraq, after America’s invasion, has scored the highest in the entire world…

    Although the International Criminal Court considered and dismissed possible criminal charges against Tony Blair’s UK Government regarding the invasion and military occupation of Iraq, the actual crime, of invading and militarily occupying a country which had posed no threat to the national security of the invader, was ignored, and the conclusion was that “the situation did not appear to meet the required threshold of the Statute” (which was only “Willful killing or inhuman treatment of civilians” and which ignored the real crime, which was “aggressive war” or “the crime of aggression” — the crime for which Nazis had been hanged at Nuremberg). Furthermore, no charges whatsoever against the U.S. Government (the world’s most frequent and most heinous violator of international law) were considered. In other words: the International Criminal Court is subordinate to, instead of applicable to, the U.S. regime. Just like Adolf Hitler had repeatedly made clear that, to him, all nations except Germany were dispensable and only Germany wasn’t, Barack Obama repeatedly said that “The United States is and remains the one indispensable nation”, which likewise means that every other nation is “dispensable.”

    source: https://theduran.com/why-u-s-must-be-prosecuted-for-its-war-crimes-against-iraq/

    See also: https://www.nickturse.com/articles-1

    • Replies: @Art
  298. Nuncle says:
    @Ayatollah Smith

    I would argue that Switzerland has a form of democracy. It has citizen-initiated referendums that are actually BINDING ON THE GOVERNMENT. Referendums mean nothing (as we saw from the Brexit debacle) unless the government is obliged to follow them. Switzerland is, I believe, the only country where this can happen. If we got to that point, we would be a lot closer to democracy – especially if laws were enacted to deregulate media and guarantee freedom of speech.

  299. Anon[797] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Agree.

    I think it works the same way that Google’s human readers work: mainly outsourced or subcontracted workers working to a manual and an online training course will tag sites for various violations. There are a zillion websites, and it takes them awhile took get around to every site. It’s rarely because of any recent content. There is a lot of leaked information about Google, due to AdSense being most site’s main source of income.

  300. @davidgmillsatty

    Simply to devastate a country or two economically by using a virus with low mortality rate, or killing less people humanly (haha)! In this case the two enemies were China and Iran. I believe China became aware of the intent very quickly and it had the capacity to control the pandemic fairly quickly and then it turned the table over by encouraging their people (like full paid trip) from certain known areas with COVID19 to visit the US (close to 430,000 people). In other words, the original plan backfired respect to China but it did work against the weaker country like Iran!

  301. Seraphim says:
    @Jiminy

    It would be interesting to know whether Zapruder became prosperous after shooting his film!

    • Replies: @Jiminy
  302. @Ron Unz

    Ron,
    Please keep in mind that Phil Giraldi is also exposing the funky relationship and the Z’s are perhaps getting pissed off. So by applying pressure onto their buddy at FB they’re getting back at UNZ! Just a thought!

  303. Anon[164] • Disclaimer says:

    This is for Ron; Iran’s experience with covid is the cincher.

    Corona is probably either Deep State or similar to 9/11 in origin, but Id be damned if it was natural.
    Trump has survived everything they have thrown at him. All the advice respectable outlets gave Trump in January and February were very wrong. His Chinese travel ban was called racist and xenophobic. We were told repeatedly that the flu was what we really needed to worry about. We were told to empathize with those quarantined on cruise ships. We were even told masks were of little value for a while. New York has shipped oldsters off to nursing homes to be availed to a great deal of covid, practically ensuring higher death numbers, almost certainly on purpose.
    Trump is the strong horse nationalist candidate the world is looking to. Global labor arbitage and promotion of sensualist/gay lifestyles and massive non-Western migration is increasingly unpopular with the Western masses. The Russia hoax, the old-as-dirt special prosecutor, brow-furrowing/pearl clutching media-minifirestorms-over-little-etiquitte-gaffes have not worked to take out the orange horse. As long as Big Orange is out there, other nationalists the world over have something to point to for morale (Phillipines, Hungary, Brazil, Poland, Russia, Brexit, Catalan, Bersculoni in Italy, Greek nationalist, anti-globalization parties coming into being in all sorts of nations). Covid is a Hail Mary fourth quarter pass. It hitting the Iranians so hard is the giveaway. It makes it obvious.
    A really bad economy or more death are Trump’s options. I imagine this will be a very ugly summer and fall race politically. DJT did not ask for this virus to screw up his four years. The media has not given this man a moments peace since he declared himself a candidate. Biden is promising not to pardon him. Thats even worse than being banned from Facebook.

  304. Oh well Ron, you’ll never lose me as a daily visitor, thrice weekly reader and very occasional commenter. Possibly you’ll even attract a superior class of audience. For some intuitive reason I knew facebook was suss from the very beginning. Registered my name with it to prevent anybody else using it (my name) and have never visited it since. I told a few of my friends to stay away from it and now they say I was right. Same goes for twatter.

    Sincerely all the best and more strength to your arm and pen.

  305. Bruno says:

    In most of Europe, if your site draw attention, god forbid, you would be banned for two major reasons :

    1- all JQ articles and N1 your Irving American Pravda serie wich could lead you to jail there

    2- all the articles linked to race analysis and in particular Sailer and Kersey

    That would be more of a total ban. So I don’t know wich % Europe represents but if I were you I would keep a low profile if you have been only Facebook hitted … worse could be coming.

  306. Pft says:

    Basically a global coup d’etat is taking place. Otherwise known as the Fourth Industrial Revolution that will lead to a Global Technocracy based on Agenda 2030 Sustainable Development Goals. Nothing can stand in its way, they will steam roll it through. Censorship over corona virus is on Warp Speed. One site MOA has gone insane in the comment section. Just mentioning a vitamin gets you banned there. lol.

    A New Order will be brought forth based on Agenda 2030 Sustainable Development making use of 5G, IoT, AI/Robotics , Big Data to control all aspects of life of each individual

    Trump announced 5G has a National priority in 2018. 5G is now being rolled out in US and much of Asia snd Europe at Warp speed in 2020, Under Trump the National Symposium on Artificial Intelligence and Computer Science (NSAIC ) was created in 2018 . It is made up of top members of the military-intelligence and tech industrial complex.

    In 2019 they recommended” structural” changes for the American economy and society so as to follow China’s lead and surpass them in AI-driven technologies, particularly mass surveillance, self driving cars, fleet ownership of cars replacing personal ownership, cashless society, herding people into high urban density areas, eliminating in-store shopping, etc. They call for a civilian DNA databases a “logical next step and AI based health care to replace doctors

    [MORE]

    Trump then signed an EO making AI development a national security priority. Trump justifies his plans to defeat the fake enemy in China in the AI race by making us like China structurally. Although the US is the leader in developing AI technology we fail in the adoption phase due to structural factors and privacy rights which must be changed or removed. Recently the Republican Senate struck down an amendment to strengthen privacy rights. Privacy is a thing of the past.

    At the Bilderbergs meeting 2019, under the motto “A Stabile Strategic Order “ and with an agenda obviously connected to AI and monitoring technologies, there were several prominent participants closely connected to Donald Trump: his son-in-law and senior advisor Jared Kushner (business-partner with another participant of the particular meeting – Peter Thiel), the Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (former head of the CIA) and Trump’s close friend, Henry Kissinger, one of the world’s most influential globalists.

    Coronavirus like 9/11 will make such changes possible . From chaos to order.The 4th Industrial Revolution must demolish the current order to bring in the new order

    This operation to demolish the current order was left to the Biotech Military Industrial Complex who have been hard at work developing and finding new virus and technologies for vaccines, and in developing technologies for Digital ID , Digital Currencies, Tracking, Surveillance, Data Collection and Control. Led by Bill Gates, Big Pharma, Military , Public Health and Intelligence Agencies, Big Banking and Big Data/Tech/Telecom.

    They have been busy bees over the past few years planning to move. More recently note the following:

    Crimson Contagion by the Trump administration’s US Department of Health and Human Services (January-August 2019).

    Urban Outbreak Exercise, by the US Naval War College and Johns Hopkins (September 2019). Followed immediately by the US government’s creation of Flu Vaccine Task Force.

    Event 201, by Johns Hopkins, the World Economic Forum, and Gates Foundation (October 2019).

    One of Trumps appointments is especially interesting. Robert Kadlec is in charge of the Pandemic as Assistant Secretary of Pandemic Preparation and Response and responsible for doling out stock piles and funding for drugs and vaccines development and purchasing. Indeed, he was the positions creator 15 years ago who just happened to get appointed at the right time. Whistleblower Bright worked for him at BARDA Kadlec participated in the June 2001 exercise simulating a bioweapons attack called “Dark Winter.”

    Interestingly the NYT warns in a recent article that 2020 that Bright said this will be the “darkest winter in modern history” if the U.S. doesn’t quickly ramp up its coronavirus response

    Meanwhile Operation Blackout simulations led by Israeli company(Cybereason) in conjunction with US military and security agencies are continuing, predicting hackers will take down the power grid to cancel elections . Trump issues EO on May 1 to protect the power grid. No power makes for a Dark Christmas for sure.

    Before elections, a vaccine will be ready thanks to Operation Warp Speed , Project Jumpstart” and “RAPID USA,” and the mobilization of the military to administer these vaccinations.

    Until we are all vaccinated, and even after that, plans are underway to monitor health and implement contact tracing. A House of Representatives’ Bill H.R. 6666, the “COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, and Contacting Everyone (‘TRACE’) Act” was introduced on May 1, incorporating what is considered the number of the beast in the Book of Revelation.

    The bill grants $100 BILLION to entities around the country “to trace and monitor the contacts of infected individuals, and to support the quarantine of such contacts.”

    Curiously the CDC placed recruiting advertisements for dozens of quarantine officers in 20 locations last fall. While quarantine has been a CDC responsibility the need for such a large number of new officers is curious especially as there was no pandemic in sight

    Administration officials – Jared Kushner, Vice President Mike Pence and Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services Alex Azar have “widely circulated” memos throughout the administration relating to proposals from 3 companies – Collective Medical, PatientPing and Juvare – to collectively “supply the government with information on where and how many patients are seeking care across 80 percent of the U.S. ‘in short order.’”

    These three companies have ties to Silicon Valley giants with dubious records regarding data privacy and coordination with U.S. intelligence agencies, but also ties to controversial simulations that took place last year and seemingly predicted the current coronavirus crisis.

    It is also worth pointing out the significance of Jared Kushner’s involvement in leading this effort, as his wife Ivanka Trump – the President’s daughter – was one of the leading proponents of a controversial program last year called the Health Advanced Research Projects Agency (HARPA).

    Last September Trump had proposed is to establish a new agency called the Health Advanced Research Projects Agency or HARPA, which would sit inside the Health and Human Services Department. Its director would be appointed by the president, and the agency would have a separate budget, according to three people with knowledge of conversations around the plan. One of the leading proponents of this agency’s main program, called “Safe Home” (Stopping Aberrant Fatal Events by Helping Overcome Mental Extremes), aims to develop an artificial intelligence-based system that would analyze data harvested from consumer electronic devices as well as information provided by health-care providers to identify those who might threaten others.

    Though HARPA ultimately failed to gain traction, a similarly mass surveillance system is now being promoted in its place, with coronavirus now replacing mass shootings as the official justification. Its possible some event caused by an alleged COVID Lockdown Denier will be used to gain support for HARPA

    Attorney General William Barr has spent the past months fine-tuning and implementing a “pre-crime” program. Officially known as the “National Disruption and Early Engagement Program” (DEEP), it aims to “identify, assess and engage” potentially violent individuals “before they strike.” Barr first announced this program last October in an official memorandum and therein stated that the program was to be implemented sometime over the course of 2020 and would involve “an efficient, effective and programmatic strategy to disrupt individuals who are mobilizing towards violence, by all lawful means.”

    In the part of the document where Barr outlines what actions will be taken once an individual is deemed potentially violent or threatening, he writes that those individuals will be subject to detention, court-ordered mental health treatment and electronic monitoring, among other measures.

    The FBI recently stated in an internal memo “conspiracy theories” were motivating some domestic terror threats and a series of questionable academic studies link “conspiracy theorists” to mental illnesses.  Thus the DOJ could even make the case that failure to blindly trust government narratives presents a threat to the public order. Get ready for the rounding up and detaining of people for thought crimes.

    None of this is really new, its just an evolution of Continuity of Government that was transformed by Reagan Administration into the devil that exists today.

    As the de facto leader of COG development and planning during the Reagan administration, North oversaw the creation of a database that later became known simply as “Main Core.” The Main Core database, first built using the stolen PROMIS software , was essentially a list of American dissidents and “potential troublemakers.”

    Main Core today likely involves the same software now used by every U.S. intelligence agency and numerous other federal agencies that is marketed by Palantir, a company created and owned by Trump ally Peter Thiel. Palantir’s software boasts “predictive policing” capabilities and tracks a category of person using the label “subversive,” very much in keeping with the spirit of Main Core.

    The possibility of pre-crime detention was also present in the DOJ’s recent request for new “emergency powers” in light of the coronavirus crisis, as it specifically asks that those new powers apply to “any statutes or rules of procedure otherwise affecting pre-arrest, post-arrest, pre-trial, trial, and post-trial procedures in criminal and juvenile proceedings and all civil process and proceedings.” The inclusion of the term “pre-arrest” likely means that “you could be arrested and never brought before a judge until they decide that the emergency or the civil disobedience is over. “

    A week before Gates funded World Economic Forum’s 2020 Davos meeting was held, the report Unlocking Technology for the Global Goals was released by WEF’s Global Future Council Working Group on 4IR for Global Public Goods. The report, written in collaboration with the audit and consulting firm PwC, reviews how the advanced technologies of the Fourth Industrial Revolution (4IR) will contribute to meeting the objectives of the 17 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) of the United Nations.

    This campaign is very well coordinated and includes governments, international organisations, and representatives of “civil society”. Also onboard are the big tech giants who all see great opportunities for profit (read: tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars) in “saving and improving the world”. All according to WEF’s principle of Public-Private Partnership

    The report presents a technocratic society where the whole world is to be controlled and governed with the help of AI, satellites, robotics, drones, the Internet of Things, and with artificial food on the menu. A global digital panopticon where all human activities are to be recorded, analysed, and corrected with the help of Social Credits – yes, even here in the West!

    Also, just days before the Davos meeting in January, BlackRock founder and CEO Larry Fink published an unusual annual newsletter to corporate CEOs.

    He wrote in a closely read letter that guides numerous corporations seeking investment from some of BlackRock’s $7 trillions, “Climate change has become a defining factor in companies’ long-term prospects.” Citing recent climate protests, Fink states, “awareness is rapidly changing, and I believe we are on the edge of a fundamental reshaping of finance..”

    Fink tells us, “because capital markets pull future risk forward, we will see changes in capital allocation more quickly than we see changes to the climate itself. In the near future – and sooner than most anticipate – there will be a significant reallocation of capital.”

    BlackRock plans to demand that companies it invests its $7 trillion into show proof that they are green compliant by, “making sustainability integral to portfolio construction and risk management; exiting investments that present a high sustainability-related risk, such as thermal coal producers; launching new investment products that screen fossil fuels; and strengthening our commitment to sustainability and transparency in our investment stewardship activities.”.

    In recent months the world’s leading central bankers have come out declaring climate change, surprisingly, as a key part of the central bank “core responsibilities,” forgetting issues like inflation or currency stability.

    This is important for another reason. Its recently come out that Larry Fink is advising the Federal Reserve as a consulant. Is this another Public Private Partnership the WEG , Rockefeller and Gates love to promote? Controlling the Fed or at least influencing them will certainly help his investments and his push for a Green Economy.

    All told it seems like a well coordinated coup d’etat taking place globally and nationally along many fronts with many players having interlocking interests.

    • Agree: Hiram of Tyre
    • Replies: @Hiram of Tyre
  307. Bert says:
    @Ron Unz

    Mr. Unz,

    Your “reconstruction” is nothing more than special pleading (That the U.S. or its Deep State would risk creating a wealth-destroying pandemic without being prepared within its own borders) and defended by ad hoc hypotheses (That the U.S. made two miscalculations).
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hoc_hypothesis

    Your “reconstruction” does not meet the standards of logic (means, opportuntiy and motive) which are routinely applied to criminal investigations. And apparently you are not able to argue againist this criticism.

    Your valuable work on the dishonesty of the U.S. media, the nature of Judaism, and the origins of the World Wars is put at risk by your pushing of the biowarfare hypothesis.

  308. cranc says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron , you keep repeating the assertion that the disease has an infection mortality rate of 0.5-1%. Do you not need to reference why you still hold to that estimation? A lot of data has come out since China locked down (then promtly released) its ‘700 million’ people. That data is widely reviewed and summarised all over the internet, and it tells us that of the many dozens of studies looking at the IFR, the average is in the area of 0.2% (that is as little as a fifth of your estimate, which is considerable).
    These studies are summarised here:
    https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/

    [MORE]

    You link in your piece above, to a New York Times article which warns us that ‘the models predict a major disaster if the US lifts lockdown too early’. Yet you know full well that the models (and the media who parrot their predictions) have been stupendously wrong in forecasting the course of this virus -in both lockdown and light restriction scenarios. An honest look at the effects of lockdown on mortality show that there is no evidence that they have saved even a single life, and that there is significant evidence that they have killed thousands unnecessarily:
    https://wmbriggs.com/post/30833/
    This is not nitpicking. The relevance and consistency of any theory about the virus’s origins is greatly affected by any consideration of its lethality and of our best response to the outbreak.
    For my part, the idea of an international rivalry being the primary reason for this whole affair makes little sense, whereas the reconfiguration of the transnational money system is most definitely being facilitated by the disruption of the ‘Covid19 events’.

    • Agree: thotmonger
  309. Hegar says:

    “an extremely reckless American biowarfare attack against China”

    You can’t be serious. Take off the tinfoil hat and read up on the wet markets in China, which have repeatedly created disease.

    “But the Wuhan lab!” The one on the other side of the river? Which did NOT do research on this corona strain? There are several corona viruses.

    “But no bats live near the wet markets!” Nor did the bats that caused SARS. In both cases they were eaten by intermediary animals that were then sold at the wet markets.

    There is plenty more misinformation, leading to “China or the U.S. created corona!” No, it was the Chinese people who did it, in the wet markets.

    Read David Cole at Takimag about this.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/frankencovid-conquers-the-right/

    https://www.takimag.com/article/wuhan-derangement-syndrome/

    https://www.takimag.com/article/speak-the-truth-shame-the-chinese/

    https://www.takimag.com/article/trumps-wuhan-wmds-thisll-end-well/

    • Replies: @mark green
  310. You refer to a derogatory, full-page NYT ad by an organization called AVAAZ. If you look at the 2018 IRS form 990 for this dubious outfit, you will find a donation of $72,000 to the terrorist-affiliated White Helmets organization.

    https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/avaaz_expenses_and_financial_information/

  311. Your love of China doesn’t protect you from the wrath of the Little Zukie in the hoodie and his chinadoll … better luck next time!

  312. Anonymous[661] • Disclaimer says:

    If things keep going the way they are it won’t be long before free speech supporters like Ron Unz (or the rest of us) will be sharing prison cells with free speech activists like Ursula Haverbeck.

    Unz Review is the best source for the free exchange of ideas that I have come across in years.

    I think it’s up to everyone to do everything they possibly can to defy the tyranny of censorship.

  313. Censorship is becoming more ubiquitous even in the letter to the editor pages in our local media. Letters criticising Israels human rights abuses against the Palestinians are shunned and so is any letter recounting the creation of the Zionist state.

  314. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @DB Cooper

    One has to wonder why a Third World country like India is giving a Chinaman like you such bother? India is a non-threat to a powerful country like China, it is just being arrogant in order to try and play both sides, this strategy may or may not work.

    I must ask, why did Chinese forces withdraw from Arunachal Pradesh/South Tibet in 1962 after successfully capturing it?

    [MORE]

    Also, the website you linked is interesting, but it too parrots MSM narratives about minorities being oppressed in India.

    http://oneworld.press/?module=articles&action=view&id=1443

    But then again, you are not interested in simply advancing an alternative view, but more in pushing aggressive polemics. This “muh oppressed minorities” schtick is the oldest trick in the liberal diplomacy book, because diversity is a strength…if only your perceived enemy has it.

    And full disclosure, I am indeed Indian, but do not support the BJP. I hope your response to this comment (if you even bother) will not be filled with name-calling and slurs.

    On a final note, the reason why the MSM don’t cover India is because we are ultimately quite irrelevant and so do not pose a threat to the Western system because of our democratic nature, meaning politicians can be influenced by big money.

  315. Pft says:

    I appreciate Ron for allowing freedom of speech. We may disagree on some points but thats a good thing. We learn from those who disagree with us, and vice versa.

    Unfortunately, the hammer on free speech is coming. Even UNZ and Ron wont be able to oppose its force.

    Prepare to distribute information via paper as in the old days. Stockpile paper. Use pre-2010 (arbitrary date) devices w/pre-2010 software without internet connectivity to prepare your thoughts. Store digital information on an internet free (pre-2010) storage device. Collect hard copies of books and video.

    An alternative is to accept our reality. We are toast, embrace the matrix.

    Whatever you choose. God bless.

  316. @Black Picard

    It is called derailing. And her target is this comments section. It happens alot with most articles here.

    These are pro Zionist trolls.

  317. bomag says:
    @216

    But they will police violations of their silly rules, and its our fault if we attempt ban evasion.

    Seems like the kind of things that happen on any large-ish website.

    Another example of political control by arbitrary rules/arbitrary enforcement.

  318. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe the ban was decided by a bot counting the occurrences of words like kike, jooie, nigger, and holohoax in the comments sections rather than by a difference in opinion.

    When I see the sheer amount of comments promoting holocaust denial under Philip Giraldi’s column, I wonder if it is actually an attempt to discredit him b6 association.

    • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
  319. Emslander says:
    @JustBrooklyn Here

    To hell with Face Book. I love your site and I have never looked at your FB. I do not do any kind of news or opinion on FB. FB is the vehicle by where you stay in touch with that crazy 2nd cousin in Kenosha or reminisce nice times with your nursery school sweetheart of 60+ years ago. That’s it. All those folks have to do is come to your site directly. Better for them, I don’t know if it’s better for you.

    Spot on!

    Despite some of my early misgivings about UR and certain signs of resistance to ideas by Unz himself, I’ve come lately to this site more than any other. It’s not mentioned too much, but the basic structure and mechanics here are unmatched anywhere else. There are no flashup ads, shifting content or obnoxious interference with the basic textual approach. In addition, the comments sections are the best-engineered and most acceptable on the internet. As Unz, himself, has pointed out, you can’t identify a dominant ideology on this page.

    I’m not an especially big anti-zionist and I’ve spent enough time in strongly Jewish lines of work that I can’t work up any teleological point of view toward American Jews. They are what they are. The open commentary about Jews was, at first, shocking to me, but I’ve come to see it now as a healthy outlet for certain people.

    If I were Unz, I would keep on the right path and assume that FB will wither up and die, like any corrupted enterprise.

  320. Anonymous[330] • Disclaimer says:

    So… it has come to this. The only solution for the Unz Review is to ban links to Facebook. Take that, Facebook!

    Keep on trucking, Ron.

  321. MLK says:
    @andwat

    I’m an old school free exchange of ideas guy. But it’s worth pointing out that hasn’t been my experience here.

    I was lifetime banned by Giraldi for noting that your former CIA columnist has remained almost entirely Radio Silent about the malefactions against the duly elected president.

    My terse comment noted that either Giraldi belonged to Brennan or he was simply No Profile In Courage. Perhaps both.

    I emailed you (Ron Unz) and received no response.

    Perhaps Facebook is just applying a wider version of practices you’ve put into place.

    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @thotmonger
  322. @Anonymous

    It is a form of slinging mud.

    All his articles are smothered by the huge amount of mud.

  323. dimples says:
    @Ron Unz

    “(4) If the author of the article were a top professor at an elite university, I’d tend to take him more seriously since he would have a personal reputation to protect.”

    That’s not a very strong argument. The protection of his reputation is why such a professor will always toe the establishment line.

  324. MLK says:
    @Truth3

    Mossad wants you and the site suppressed.

    That’s very funny. That must explain why this piece by Unz reads like a marketing piece.

    Thus, we have America assassinating Iran’s top military commander on Jan. 2nd and then just a few weeks later large portions of the Iranian ruling elites became infected by a mysterious and deadly new virus, with many of them soon dying as a consequence. Could any rational individual possibly regard this as a mere coincidence?

    Could any rational, reasonably informed, individual regard it as mere coincidence that you’ve left out Soleimani’s operation using allied Iraqi militias to seize American hostages in a pitch perfect replay of the ’79-80 Iranian Hostage Crisis that sunk Carter’s reelection chances? Or the bone-chilling same page messaging from top Democrats and the Iranian regime’s leadership at the highest levels. Or Pelosi’s inexplicable delay during this period in transmitting the articles of impeachment to the Senate.

  325. Jiminy says:
    @Seraphim

    I read that Zapruder sold the film for $150 000 after the killing to Time-Life, but later they returned it. Though eventually his family ended up with 16 million reasons to be happy, not bad, considering they wanted $30 million. There’s actually a few good articles on this website concerning the JFK saga. I think it was mentioned that Zapruder was involved with the Jewish underground as well. And mentioning Jews, I noticed that down here we don’t see much on the ABC news anymore of Israel and it’s attacks on the Palestinians. I think this came about at roughly the same time that the liberal government infiltrated the broadcaster and shut down one of the countries leading political programs, sending their star reporter off to some foreign corner of the world never to ask embarrassing questions of the political elite again. Apparently the Jews now take great pleasure in shooting Palestinians in the knees usually blowing off their leg. It’s considered more humane to be able to do this, and of course very good marksmanship. Finally it appears as if the supreme leader has begun his propaganda program, telling how China is now cyber spying to find a hidden cure for Maryland flu. Unfortunately if China’s idea of good propaganda is still a large red and yellow poster of a soldier standing alongside a farmer swapping ploughshares for rifles, then they have surely lost the propaganda war in the eyes of the American ignorant.

  326. schrub says:

    I sin’t even know why people use Facebook.

    I abandoned it years ago when I discovered, quite by accident, that Facebook had managed to get into the Microsoft Outlook contacts list stored on my desktop computer.

    This discovery of FB’s invasion of another company’s software program became obvious when FB published something whose wording could only have come out of what I had previously thought was my private Outlook program.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  327. Z-man says:
    @MLK

    I was banned from Breitbart, a long time ago, for obvious reasons… calling a Jew a Je err.. Zionist and so on. My time on The Hill might be short of this world also because I don’t tow the ‘snowflake’ party line. ‘Heaven forbid’ I get banned from here. (Wry grin)

  328. Bruno says:

    Also as SPLC scheme has been unmasked by many Unz review writers, and they are still a prominent source of information on « hate », it would be quite logical that Unz would be a major target. Maybe you should have a pdf on SPLC – like you have on Harvard and Ivies pro-Jewish admission strategy – so that it can be spread through the internet.

    Repeating they are not qualified is the only strategy even if it seldom work. While Trump is president, you could try to have the administration investigate them or at least de-legit them …

  329. Facebook is a zionist front org and so is youtube.

  330. @Kevin Barrett

    Agree.
    One example of effective memory holing is the total disappearance of exploding Mohammads and the equally total lack of interest in or commentary on it.

    An existential threat vanishes: no big deal.

  331. Che Guava says:

    I do not know why anybody ever read (or reads)
    The Onion. I understand English-language humour, most of the time, and contributed a little that worked (praised by cracked.com), but not lately.

    No article on the Onion ever made me LOL, even in their early days.

    They are like some form of controlled opposition under the guise of humour.

    Ownership details would be interesting.

  332. A badge of honor it is, Ron Unz! Don’t anxiety over it! Blessings! (Note: I only post happy whatever day and stuff about my novels https://omegabooksnet.com on Facebook) And mostly I use to to message friends and relatives.

  333. @Realist

    Not only that but Ron Unz is also Jewish….which could be the reason he hasn’t been banned earlier than this April.

  334. Che Guava says:
    @schrub

    They do all sorts of unethical stuff. Many bands in Japan, even if they have a WWW site, only use FB or Twit or both. They leave the site dormant. It is stupid.

    I have not logged in to FB once in my life, but they have one of my e-mail addresses (for no reason), and, since they have that, no doubt a list of whatever IP addresses they have been able to correlate with that.

    Nobody has ever contacted me by e-mail from an FB account.

    This makes me think that the idea that they keep a database of non-participants is true.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  335. Herald says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    That anyone would put their trust in Stanford or any other “paid for” scientists is quite breathtaking.

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  336. Agent76 says:

    Jun 19, 2019 Inside the traumatic life of a Facebook moderator

    Former Facebook content moderators are speaking out about their working conditions in the United States for the first time ever.

    November 14, 2019 Facebook Is Secretly Using Your IPhone Camera While You Browse Your Feed

    A new bug on Facebook for iOS allows the app to secretly record through iPhone camera in the background, as users scroll through their personal feed, reports The Next Web.

    https://www.techworm.net/2019/11/facebook-iphone-camera-feed.html

    Sep 19, 2013 Zuckerberg Lap Dog for Surveillance State

    Abby Martin calls out Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, highlighting some of the company’s more questionable practices such as data-mining and tracking, and how the company has become another arm of the surveillance state.

  337. py wong says:

    I found your article very informative and filled in some missing gaps on my study of the coronavirus problem. I quoted your article on my Facebook page. Initially, it went through, then mysteriously, it disappeared. Finally, I figured out that your website was banned. I eventually got round it by suggesting my readers google Ron Unz to find you.

  338. 790dB says:

    Probably de jure UR doesn’t stand a chance, although, by any means go fight this legal battle up and till the Supreme Court. Unz Review vs Facebook, maybe it will be a historical case. Still chances are slim.

    We can, as users, so no involvement of UR itself, fight it de facto. What do I mean?

    Let’s turn it in to a technical game of cat and mouse.

    I’m not an TCP/IP or internet expert, but my thinking goes as follows;

    We hire a bunch of servers, which we change with erratic fast pace. Or even better we use a VPN style massive network, with lot’s of sleeper cells. That basically relays the content from UR to Facebook.

    To be able to do this the user based UR shadow network has a front end, where if one of us wants to share stuff on FB, you can retrieve possibly an encrypted or everytime unique IP address, where to collect the content from. I struggled a lot with elastic IP stuff at AWS and it drove me nuts, but at least I got the impression a lot is possible.

    When this shadow node collects the data from UR it automatically reformats all the hyperlinks linking to UR, and let’s all the traffic, or pointers to that traffic be relayed through that node. And this node you can hop very frequently.

    Then it can still be liked and shared, because facebook believes it is from that website instead of UR.

    So that’s the first line of defense, whereby now the dumb blocking of the url’s doesn’t work anymore.

    Next step they would have to start scanning the contents, which already gets difficult due to the vast amount of information on UR. And UR can punish facebook if they are caught scraping UR’s content.

    Say if they manage to block this, which they at a certain point will, there are other counter measures imaginable and Let’s brainstorm about that when it happens.

    Plan?

  339. 790dB says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron, you are tremendously levelheaded and perhaps one of the most gifted balanced skeptics out in the wild.

    Regarding a high-profile professor being more reliable, as he has a reputation to protect:

    On paper that’s true, however for their careers they are dependent on grants and being accepted in journals. Especially, in scientific fields where huge interests are at play and the subject matter is rather complex, this leads to a total corruption of the scientific field. Especially think of economics and climate science, in both of those fields I had the opportunity to pursue a PhD, but after a bit of study, I came to this conclusion and stuck to physics and math.

    In this context check this interesting article (I didn’t verify it) by the Strategic Culture Foundation about the origin of the Nature Journal (family). Its routes go via Huxley, Darwin back to the ideas of Malthus, it’s a rather interesting read.

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/13/how-huxleys-x-club-created-nature-magazine-sabotaged-science-150-years/

  340. Facebook? Hahahaha. you are losing readers because you have been lying about the flu for months.

  341. @Hegar

    Thank you for these articles. Since I have zero expertise in this matter, I will leave the final analysis to (unbiased) experts to sort this all out. Problem: the entire subject has been hopelessly politicized with key evidence possibly tampered with or suppressed altogether.

  342. Given that allopathy has never defeated a virus, what exactly is considered fact rather than mere trial and error. Hence how can anything actually be a conspiracy? I doubt that argument will fly with the shadowy Facebook oversight committee, which in itself sounds like a conspiracy plot from a TV show like Chuck or Nikita.

  343. Dear Mr. Unz,
    Greetings. Your article has a conciliatory tone, which is understandable. If they restore TUR to Facebook, then the long-term gain will have been worth the temporary humiliation. However, you are smart enough to understand that TUR will never be treated fairly by its strategic enemies. There will always be an excuse for why they would eventually suppress TUR. Immigration is their method of choice to suppress nationalism. We all know that that is really “the” central issue determining the future of the West. They are actually telling you that by linking TUR to Vdare.

    On a related note, people have become lazy. Back in the day, in several countries around the world, the opposition would resort to secret organizing, and hand-written tracts slipped into this or that location around the city, in order to convey their dissenting messages. Westerners do not know the smell of alcohol from the ink of hand-spun stencil machines which were used to print many of those tracts.

    We should not expect our ideological adversaries to publish strategically-opposing thoughts electronically (and instantaneously) for the whole world to see. Facebook relies on the sub-stellar IQ of its 2 billion users both to make money, and to control information.

    Let them go at it. It only adds more evidence to their blatant bias. I believe that over time, they will have abused their power so much, that privately owned sites will become even more popular, and alternatives to FB will emerge. I have always been amazed by the imperceptiveness of presumably intelligent operators who –invariably– contribute to their own ultimate demise.

  344. Ron Unz says:

    As some of you may have heard, the Chinese ambassador to Israel was suddenly found at his home, just days after Pompeo took a trip there and had angrily demanded that Israel cancel its huge desalination contract with China:

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/05/chinese-ambassador-to-israel-found-dead-in-his-home-a-timeline.html#more

    This brought to mind some other very odd “coincidences” from a couple of years ago that occurred almost simultaneously with our sudden kidnapping of that top Huawei executive, but which were totally ignored by the MSM at the time:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/connecting-the-dots-in-the-huawei-kidnapping/

    Although hard proof is obviously lacking in most of these cases, I think that such bevy of sudden and striking “coincidences” does tend to further support my own analysis of the likely origins of the Covid-19 epidemic mentioned above.

  345. Pussy War says:

    The pattern of behavior Dr. Unz instantiates is compelling. Reminds me of the string of Russian diplomats who untimely died until Scott Stearney had that tragic heart attack.

    The chairborne raiders of JTRIG will try to fix your attention on a succession of minute facticles to keep you from seeing the big picture. But when you ignore them and step back from the mosaic, every piece fits with perfect consistency. And it shows a CIA regime determined to shit on rule of law. They call it ‘killing two birds with one stone:’ violate jus cogens with a wrongful act. They don’t just want to hurt the enemy; they want to discredit international law with a “Ha ha fuck you whaddaya gonna do about it?” So then their propagandists can say, “See? international law doesn’t work.”

    The common denominator of CIA’s acts is that they are asymmetrical and sneaky, the weapons of a weakling, because the US is outmatched by the SCO and its observers and nonaligned friendly relations. However, the SCO can control escalation with force disparities at every level of conflict up to general nuclear war. So the US will again get its ass kicked with a proportional response and end up increasingly gelded and bled white.

    And when the time is ripe the subject population will drag them out of NHB and give the SIS a Nicolae-and-Elena photo op.

  346. Richard B says:
    @niteranger

    They want total control and they will get it unless we fight back. The Khazars are starting to get nervous because more and more people in the world are realizing what they really are and everything they control.

    That’s exactly right.

    They know we know.

    And what do we know?

    That David has become Goliath while still pretending he’s David.

    They know we know that there is only one real KKK in the world today, ie; them.

    The Kvetching Kosher Khazars.

    And, above all, they know that we know what they want and who they have to destroy in order to get it, ie; us.

  347. @Ron Unz

    It is just weird how China takes this so quietly if the killings are true?

    If I was China, American high value targets would also be free game. Because by not retaliating, it signals to the American govt it can assassinate with impunity.

    This all hinges on the conspiracy being spot on.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @TRM
  348. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    Moreover, as the Facebook document correctly emphasizes, VDare is an anti-immigration webzine, while I cannot even remember the last time that we featured an article having that theme.

    But so what if you have published articles with an anti-immigration theme, or associated with an organization that habitually publishes articles on that theme?

    Immigration is a process subject to regulation by law. In a democracy, therefore, discussion of immigration, including whether it should be increased, decreased or totally prohibited, must be permitted.

    What sort of muddled or moronic thinking would lead FaceBook to ban reference to a publication that discusses what it is legal and indeed necessary to discuss in a democratic society?

    No rationale seems possible other than that FaceBook is a propaganda operation that should itself should be banned by anyone in a position to ban it. It is anti-democratic. It is for the suppression of free speech. It should be boycotted by every democracy-loving citizen of the free world.

    Screw FaceBook, and long-live free speech — not that we agree with nine-tenths of what free speech appears in the Unz Review.

    And sorry, if about 50 other people have already said the same, although the point is worth repeating endlessly, if that is what is necessary to get it through the befuddled heads of the dimwitted masses who subject themselves to FaceBook: FaceBook is an antidemocratic and poisonous propaganda operation.

  349. @Yael Glavlit

    Glavlit = Censor (in Sovietese) Yael – a common Jewish female name.

  350. @Ron Unz

    Definitely, Ron! It also proves that the Deep State power cares about Covid revelations much, much more than about Holocaust discussions. You never know how far you may go until you go too far)) And it is not only Facebook – it seems UR is downgraded (or what is the term) in the Google search, too. Google could not find “Shamir lockdown” though my article of this title was No. 1 in other search engines. That’s a new big problem!

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @CanSpeccy
  351. Pussy War says:

    Astuteobservor II, 356, it might be weirdly quiet for years. The perps and their bosses will be looking over their shoulder all the while. Just ask that fun couple the Bennetts! Hubby bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade and got away with it for a good long while. Then all of a sudden bonk bonk splat!

  352. Incitatus says:

    “Indeed, just before the Facebook ban I had published a 7,400 word article presenting the considerable circumstantial evidence that our national disaster may have been the unintended blowback from an extremely reckless American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), presumably organized by the Deep State Neocons or other rogue elements within our national security establishment.”

    Perhaps Facebook would be more reluctant to ban 10,000 words of “circumstantial evidence”? Just kidding.

    Imagine a fire burning uncontrollably – some fight the fire, others spin self-aggrandizing theories on how it started.

    Facebook? Any unwise enough to subscribe deserve what they get.

    “If Americans began to suspect that this unimaginable national disaster may have been entirely self-inflicted, the consequences could be explosive.”

    No need for hyperbole. The numbers ably profile “explosive” mis-management, whatever the virus source. If the US was as prudent as Taiwan it would today have 6,102 COVID-19 cases [vs. 1,497,244] and 97 deaths [vs. 89,420].

    Something worth thinking about.

  353. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Anon

    Pam Karlan is one twisted you know what.

  354. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Turk 152

    Are you that thick?

    Perhaps it may not be strictly a matter of obtuseness. Like many unpleasant possibilities, the possibility that your own government is little better than a criminal gang no one dare bring to book is not something for which everyone is equipped to cope.

    The average American has absolutely nothing in common with their criminal aristocratic rulers?

    The same can be said for America’s media figureheads, who presently have much more in common with the aristocracy they are ostensibly reporting on than the common folk they are ostensibly keeping informed.

    Sometimes I find myself wondering which is more objectively disturbing:

    A) The media’s willingness to create a soft, fuzzy psuedo-world where the most important decisions are centred around which foods to avoid and which new mobile phone to buy.

    or

    B) The willingness of vast numbers of people to inhabit that world and never glimpse beyond it.

    Perhaps the old adage that begins, “Where ignorance is bliss…” is the one to live by after all.

  355. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @Alden

    Covid-19 really is a different and, with qualifications, more dangerous flu than a usual flu.

    Like a usual flu it is dangerous to people who are frail for whatever reason, and for those people it is more dangerous than the usual flu.

    It is also more contagious, but that by itself doesn’t make it worse than the usual flu.

    The hoax is in exaggerating the danger, especially to the hale and hearty, and that the hoax was made part of a political agenda, and that authority figures focus on vaccination rather than treatment, that they ignore or denounce or – what is criminal – make illegal what are promising treatments.

    The best writer on the fact that Covid-19, or as she prefers to call it, SARS-CoV-2, is not the usual flu is Dr. Meryl Nass:  anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com

  356. Ron Unz says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    It is just weird how China takes this so quietly if the killings are true?

    If I was China, American high value targets would also be free game. Because by not retaliating, it signals to the American govt it can assassinate with impunity.

    Well, most of these incidents do have “plausible deniability.” It does seem *extremely* suspicious that the Chinese ambassador suddenly died, but perhaps it was just a random heart attack.

    Anyway, PRC leadership generally seems very pragmatic and cautious, and obviously retaliatory assassinations of American government officials would become the absolute centerpiece of Trump’s MSM war against China, certainly much more plausible than all the crazy nonsense about the Chinese “covering up” the Covid-19 outbreak.

    After all, as my article pointed out, it soon became universally known that the US had deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy in 1999 and killed a few Chinese diplomats, and China never retaliated.

    But look at it from a different angle. Every year, China grows stronger and every year, America grows weaker, with the process vastly accelerated by the Covid-19 outbreak. I think there’s a pretty good chance that at least a couple of hundred thousand Americans will die and our economy will be wrecked for years. So it probably makes sense for the Chinese to avoid “provoking” us while we’re flailing about irrationally and possibly collapsing.

  357. Ron Unz says:
    @israel shamir

    And it is not only Facebook – it seems UR is downgraded (or what is the term) in the Google search, too.

    Hmmm… You’re right. It does looks like Google may have severely deranked our webpages. I checked a couple that have always been very high in searches, and they’re now nowhere to be found, but still just as high in Bing and DuckDuckGo searches. Quite unfortunate…

    • Replies: @idrankwhat
    , @Wizard of Oz
  358. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Black Picard

    Fran, conveniently, appears to be supremely naive.

    You may have have noticed it as well, but once your income exceeds a certain threshold, you can afford just about anything, including the privilege of being supremely naïve.

    Looking back, I can say I have met a pretty fair number of people over the years for whom reality plays little to no part in their lives. I have even been told that the Washington, D.C. area is one in which the inhabitants have taken the concept so far as to raise it up into a sort of macabre art form.

    Or, most likely, she poses as a “palatable” social troll for entertainment purposes since she’s an “artist”.

    I prefer to take the view that she’s a fill-in for TD whenever he is indisposed; a sort of second-stringer who lacks the master’s touch. Call it a flight of fancy if you like (I won’t argue).

  359. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @israel shamir

    In the 70’s, CIA Director, Colby, said “we control every major media asset.”

    In the current era, we can assume that the CIA owns every major alt media asset: FaceBook, obviously, but crackpot conspiracy sites such as the Unz Review also.

    How best to promote such a site as the Unz Review?

    Go through the motions of suppressing its readership in a crass and blatant way, e.g., by having CIA asset FaceBook delete all links to it.

    That’ll convince the crackpot readers of the Unz Review’s of the authenticity of the Unz Review’s crazy conspiracy theories — for example, that Covid19 is a US bioweapon accidentally unleashed upon the American people but intended to devastate China.

    Why would the CIA want to promote crackpot conspiracy theories? (1) To distract attention from the conspiracy theories that are true; and (2) To discourage belief in, or even consideration of, conspiracy theories by painting those who do as crackpots — which mostly they are!

    • Agree: Incitatus
    • LOL: Ron Unz
    • Troll: L.K
    • Replies: @Usura
    , @Iris
    , @AnonStarter
  360. Incitatus says:

    “After all, as my article pointed out, it soon became universally known that the US had deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy in 1999 and killed a few Chinese diplomats, and China never retaliated.”

    Retaliation? China-USA trade under Trump 2017-2019 brokered a $1,140,567,000,000 deficit a 7.71% increase over Obama 2014-2016 [$1,058,971,000,000]. Maybe China found comfort in thus sating themselves.

    Trump’s miracle NAFTA Mexico reach-around is even better. His 2017-2019 $251,711,000,000 deficit is an increase of 41.44% from Obama’s 2014-2016 deficit ($177,968,000,000).

    Rescuing American jobs? Don’t think so.

    https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/index.html

  361. anastasia says:

    ” Although there may be some differences of emphasis or minor disagreements, all these American media sources agree that Chinese officials first became aware of the serious viral outbreak in Wuhan in early to mid-January, with the first known death occurring on Jan. 11th, and finally implemented major new public health measures later that same month. ”

    The question is “do you agree?” The new virus strain was found on December 31, 2019, which means that the search was started sometime before that date. Of course, this is well before any inundation of patients into the hospitals, and they would not recognize the patients anyway because the symptoms were so diverse in the people who were “infected” with the new strain.

    Are you or is anyone suggesting that the Chinese government who funds this kind of research did not know of the new strain until mid-Jan AFTER it was filed with the WHO on January 3? You have to ask yourself why they looked for a new strain to begin with. Nowhere in the clinical studies does it say that they were inundated with patients with the same symptoms. The symptoms were diverse. Nowhere do they say in the clinical study that the people were not treatable.

    Dr. Drostein of Berlin, within three days of filing the new strain, created a new test for it, in partnership with the Chinese. Many new strains of virus are filed with the WHO every year, and most do not have special tests.

    And with all of this funding and state requirements of accountability, far more than any western country, the Chinese government was completely unaware of what was happening until January 14? Not only were the Chinese government aware of the research, but I havenews for you. The western media was there in China from the beginning.

    Why would facebook take your site off because of corona virus? It’s ridiculous. You are not saying anything that has been greatly discussed in the mainstream media, eg. China made it in their lab; vs. US made it in their lab. It is what the authorities in our government have been accusing the Chinese of almost from the beginning, and which is published in every newspaper. Why would they take umbrage over what you wrote about corona virus. I would complain. I would tell them, “I am not saying anything everyone else is saying.” Have them read your articles. There is nothing objectionable from the viewpoint of facebook or anyone else.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  362. @Ron Unz

    Well, most of these incidents do have “plausible deniability.” It does seem *extremely* suspicious that the Chinese ambassador suddenly died, but perhaps it was just a random heart attack.

    Oh so lets kill the Chinese ambassador and maybe no one will notice. And that would be for what purpose? How does that fit into the scenario of the US spread Covid to China as bio warfare?

    This is the worst conspiracy theory you have come up with since more Americans are hurt then Chinese. I would call that bio program a failure.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  363. cranc says:
    @Ron Unz

    I think there’s a pretty good chance that at least a couple of hundred thousand Americans will die and our economy will be wrecked for years.

    It is clear that a majority of all the excess deaths in the US (and beyond) this year will be due to policy responses rather than the effects of the nCov virus.
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/lives-vs-lives-the-global-cost-of-lockdown

    [MORE]

    “What we’re seeing is a tsunami of a rather mild infection spreading around the globe, and I think there’s very little chance to stop it by any measure we take. Most people will become infected by this and most won’t even notice. We have data now from Sweden that shows that between 98 and 99% of the cases have had a very mild infection or didn’t even realize they were infected…[The fatality rate is] around 0.1%…I think it’s a bit higher [than the rate for ordinary flu]. I had said before in Sweden that this is like a severe influenza; I don’t think that’s completely true. It will be a bit more severe than influenza – maybe double, but not tenfold.”

    Former chief scientist of Sweden Giesecke.
    http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/giesecke_16may.html

  364. Timmy75 says:
    @Realist

    “The deep state does exist.” Yes, but only in your manipulated mind. There is no “deep state”, there is only THE STATE, and it is rotten to the core. Entertain thoughts of draining the swamp all you’d like, but be fully aware that there are in fact miscreants of the same ilk waiting in-the-wings for their chance to jump in and splash around, as it were. Any society foolish enough to bestow upon its office holders a lavish, privileged lifestyle can fully expect to have the Elmer Gantrys of this world turning up like hobos at a pot luck dinner, empty handed by my, oh MY, how they do TALK.

    • Agree: Bert
    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Vojkan
  365. @Ron Unz

    As a precaution, would you consider publishing a downloadable or DVD archive of all of your online content, so that it would be more difficult to completely censor?

  366. Miro23 says:
    @Ron Unz

    Although hard proof is obviously lacking in most of these cases, I think that such bevy of sudden and striking “coincidences” does tend to further support my own analysis of the likely origins of the Covid-19 epidemic mentioned above.

    One thing for sure, is that the MSM provided a detailed and instant story regarding the Chinese culpability for Covid-19 (no investigation necessary) – very similar in fact to their detailed and instant “Arab terrorists Bin Laden” story on 9/11 (also no investigation necessary).

    The difference this time is that China is being set up, rather than Iraq, which is dangerous given the size and power of China.

    Iraq and Iran were targeted to gain control of their oil (protect the petro/dollar) and please the Zionists. China doesn’t have any problems with Israel , but it does have a petro/dollar problem with the US. China is now the world’s largest oil importer, and it is also Iran and Saudi Arabia’s main trade partner – with an expressed desire to conduct its oil trade outside of the US dollar, with this position being supported by Russia.

    If this desire became a reality, than the US dollar could no longer realistically be the world’s only reserve currency – with all the implications for the US economy, US debt issuance etc.

    Then there are also US Deep State operations around the globe, that seem to regard it as an automatic right of the NSA to access the world’s communications – an access now threatened by China’s Huawei:

    Washington has asked Ottawa to arrest Meng Wanzhou and to extradite her. This young woman is the financial director and daughter of the founder of Huawei, the Chinese Telecom Giant. She was arrested on 6 December in Canada.

    The motive for the war undertaken by Washington against Huawei is deep-rooted and spurious are the justifications.

    The heart of the problem is that the Chinese firm uses a system of encryption that prevents the NSA from intercepting its communications. A number of governments and secret services in the non-Western world have begun to equip themselves exclusively with Huawei materials, and are doing so to protect the confidentiality of their communications.

    The covers/excuses for this war are theft of intellectual property or in the alternative, trade with Iran and North Korea, and violating rules of competition by benefitting from national subsidies.
    The Five Eyes is a system of electronic espionage by Australia, Canada, the United States, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. They have begun to exclude Huawei from their auctions.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article204264.html 7th December 2018

    All of this may not be the whole story, but petro/dollar reserve currency status is of primary importance for the debt ridden “financialized” US economy.

    • Agree: idrankwhat
  367. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @niteranger

    MIT (Technology Review) just went after Archive and the Wayback Machine claiming they should not save anything the Magic Jews don’t want. Now the idiots at Archive are going to put warning stickers on stuff etc. and make you sign in (so they can track you).

    Do you have a link to a write-up on these soon-to-come “warning stickers” and other measures?

    Sailer’s piece from the first of the month gave the impression this thing wasn’t much different from the usual “tempest in a teacup” type rubbish that the Archive crew is used to simply letting blow over; a look at the archive.org blog did not reveal any mention whatever. Did I miss it?

  368. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Fran Taubman

    This is the worst conspiracy theory you have come up with since more Americans are hurt then Chinese.

    Its no worse than supposing, say, that the United States might have accidentally dropped the first atom bomb on Chicago, rather than Hiroshima. I mean, it could have happened, although it’s true the corona virus blowback, if that’s what it is, has done the US more damage than would a small misdirected nuke.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  369. Facebook blocks Unz.com and Vdare.com yet allows websites on Facebook which support the racist supremacist Israel and its illegal, inhumane concentration camp for Brown people, who don’t speak Spanish, known as Gaza, the West Bank is also terrible.

  370. anon[278] • Disclaimer says:

    https://china-underground.com/2012/10/17/35-rare-images-of-the-infamous-japanese-experiment-unit-731-in-china/

    Chinese were the victims.

    The US government responded to this historic atrocity by hiring the vivisectionists of Unit 731 and using their practical know-how on Chinese in the Korean War.

    Now the US is widely and reasonably suspected of a biological sneak attack on the city of Wuhan. Does anybody think that China will take this lying down?

  371. TRM says:

    In some online discussions some were suggesting using “excess deaths” to see what effect the covid-19 disease is having and I thought that would be a reasonable approach because it would avoid the died “with/from” issue.

    Using these numbers there is no “excess deaths” of any statistical significance except for Texas which is about 10% above average. This makes the case for lockdown at all, much less continuing, dodgy at best.

    [MORE]

    New York: Expected 50,319 / Actual 39,005
    Georgia: Expected 27,699 / Actual 27,161
    Illinois: Expected 36,138 / Actual 37,870
    Texas: Expected 60,408 / Actual 66,071
    Washington: Expected 19,599 / Actual 19,270
    Oregon: Expected 12,028 / Actual 11,834

    All 2020 deaths year to date are from this CDC page:
    https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
    Click the state and then go through weeks 1 to 16 and then get the “Total Deaths” from the bottom right.

    New York: 150,959 yearly deaths (2013-16) expected average for 4 months = 50,319 https://apps.health.ny.gov/public/tabvis/PHIG_Public/lcd/reports/#state

    Georgia: 83,098 yearly deaths (2017) expected average for 4 months = 27,699
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/241581/births-and-deaths-in-the-us-by-state/

    Illinois: 108,414 yearly deaths (2015-18) expected average for 4 months = 36,138
    https://dph.illinois.gov/data-statistics/vital-statistics/death-statistics

    Texas: 181,226 yearly deaths (2012-15) expected average for 4 months = 60,408
    https://dshs.texas.gov/chs/vstat/annrpts.shtm

    Washington: 55,796 yearly deaths (2015-18) expected average for 4 months = 19,599
    https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/Pubs/422-099-2018-2010-VitalStatHighlights.pdf

    Oregon: 36,085 yearly deaths (2015-18) expected average for 4 months = 12,028
    https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/BIRTHDEATHCERTIFICATES/VITALSTATISTICS/ANNUALREPORTS/VOLUME2/Pages/index.aspx

  372. @Herald

    And where did I do that?

    But more importantly, what scientific lab exists where no one can not claim the lab is not bought and paid for?

    Who has the large sums of money just lying around who will spend it on something they have zero financial interest in? Where are those dollars, because that would be the dream of many scientists, to do research without ever having to have a thesis about what might the results be when he does an experiment?

  373. Druid says:
    @450.org

    These people should be drawn and quartered. They call themselves muslim. They’re nothing but trash. Very disturbing

  374. @Pft

    You, Sir, as they say, “Hit The Nail”- hard and clear. Never have I read a comment, by anyone on the internet to date, that most accurately assess the current and upcoming (grim) reality.

    I read the various unknown and/or unspoken of information you have presented in this comment and in your other 130 comments here on Unz throughout the years in different references (be it the Fabian/Tavistock’s machinations, Sutton’s technology transfer from the US to the Soviet Union in the first (fake) Cold War, Wood’s “Technocracy Rising”, the UN’s Agenda 2030, Devos’ plans, etc) but never connected in the way you have done. Hats off.

    That said, what are your thoughts on Trump’s withdrawal of the Paris Agreement? To me, it seems counterintuitive to the Climate Change/Green Economy.

  375. Vaterland says:
    @Fran Taubman

    do you really think that morally Americans any Americans would engage in Bio warfare with the intent on killing Chinese and Iranians?

    100% YES. You yourself bragged about how glad you were for all the bombs which the allies, including your own father, dropped on the German civilian population. Everything to stop muh “Nazi war machine”, right?!

    Do you personally know any Americans capable of that? Would you ever be involved in mass murder or bio warfare?

    See above, “moral” American.

    How interesting that a jignat hasbarist is so very concerned about this theory. Maybe I’m going to buy into it after all…

  376. @CanSpeccy

    The entire Ron Unz US biowarfare conspiracy sounds like Bulwinkle the Moose with Natasha and Boris Badenoff. I mean who is going to wreck there own country and kill the Chinese Ambassador in a Zionist country.

    • Replies: @Vaterland
  377. @Ron Unz

    It is a strange world that we live in. how retaliating against assassinations is considered provocation.

    The world is messed up.

    Chinese leadership must be Zen masters if they can take assassinations without reactions.

    • Replies: @bluedog
  378. Rurik says:

    Facebook announced its new “oversight board” to adjudicate these sorts of matters, so I suppose I will try to get in touch with them to clarify this issue.

    for some reason, I thought of this

  379. Skeptikal says:
    @Harvey

    What I heard as a child was

    “We must all hang together or we’ll all hang separately.”

  380. TRM says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Or maybe the Chinese have no idea if it is theirs or the USA’s. The perfect setup?

    Ft Detrick, at least 2 US universities, Canada and “Fucci Funded” Wuhan. All had very suspicious goings on for a long time.

    Knowing the Chinese would steal it they get hired into lots of the centers doing the research.
    Convince the Chinese intelligence that the SARS-Cov-2 virus was the most valuable one.
    Chinese intel tell the scientists to steal it. They to steal it and return it to Wuhan.
    Release it in Wuhan during the World Military Games during the closing ceremony.
    Blame China and put them on the defensive.

    Or (but wait there’s more!!!)

    Accidentally released from Ft Detrick resulting in an outbreak in the immediate area.
    Cover that up by assigning the blame to “vaping”.
    Cover up subsequent deaths by calling it the flu.
    Realizing it was going to go exponential it is released in Wuhan.
    Blame China and put them on the defensive.

    Seriously, whenever you are dealing with spooks just take the wildest, most ridiculous, outlandish idea you have and keep going. You might then be close. And those are just 2 examples from the “USA did it” side. There are just as many from the Chinese side and even the possibility of a third party. Just go nuts with it folks and have fun.

  381. gsjackson says:

    Setting aside the very necessary business of venue shopping, i.e., finding receptive courts in which to bring the action, case law does leave these social media sites susceptible to a First Amendment challenge, even though they are private companies. From a couple of angles.

    First, the company town line of cases. If a private company owns the public square in which people would express themselves — protesting on the company-owned streets, for example — then the company can be characterized as government and subject to a constitutional challenge. These social media sites essentially are the public square at the moment.

    Secondly, a couple of cases that redefine First Amendment protection of speech and press in a way that I think most people are completely unaware of. Most fundamentally these rights inhere in the general public to be exposed to a broad array of diverse information and opinions so that they can be fully informed citizens fit to participate in a democracy. Yes, there is a right of publishers of media content not to be told by government what they should publish or allow to be published, but that right is subordinate to the public’s right to be fully informed, and if private companies have in effect achieved a monopoly over the public discourse and used that monopoly to create a dysfunctional communication environment, then they can be regulated by Congress or the courts. See Red Lion Broadcasting v. FCC and Turner Broadcasting v FCC, cases authored by centrist judges — White and Kennedy — who were often swing votes.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  382. Richard B says:
    @Ron Unz

    certainly much more plausible than all the crazy nonsense about the Chinese “covering up” the Covid-19 outbreak.

    Why do you consider it crazy nonsense?

    Is there an article of yours or of other TUR writers debunking that notion that you could recommend?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  383. Skeptikal says:
    @Ron Unz

    ” For example, there does seem to be strong evidence that Kilgallen was murdered and her manuscript stolen, but that was because she was a high-profile journalist who claimed to have obtained explosive new evidence that would break the case wide open. ”

    In JFK and the Unspeakable, James K. Douglass provides info on a number of people who decided to give evidence regarding the events in Dallas—people who were in a position to provide new, highly relevant evidence—and mysterious died just before the scheduled meeting with investigators or an elected official or someone like that. In one case, I believe the person had quite explosive evidence, it was literally the night before a meeting that the person had finally agreed to when he suddenly had a heart attack. It is no wonder that people who actually know something keep their mouths shut. And idiots out there in America-land keep saying things like, “If there was some kind of conspiracy you wouldn’t be able to keep it a secret.” Well, yes, you can keep things secret if you off the people who finally work up the courage to provide evidence and eye-witness reports.

  384. Skeptikal says:
    @DanHessinMD

    I agree that someone must start to pushback on Facebook and other social media censors.
    There is a story at The Saker blog on the total deplatforming of Sayed Hasan by both FB and Vimeo.

    http://thesaker.is/after-youtube-and-facebook-vimeo-bans-sayed-hasan-nasrallahs-videos/

    Everything is getting censored by these social media Draculas.

  385. anonymous[905] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The only people that I see that deliberately commit mass murder as a weapon to terrorize, and inflict damage similar to the Taliban trying to kill a school girl on the way to school (not mass murder) or blowing up a wedding which they often do, or ISIS burning people in cages is Islam.

    You write terribly. Was your point, that it is only Islam which commits mass murder?

    A complete whitewash about US’ invasions & drone strikes, Israel’s genocidal & murderous actions… ??!!

    Judenscum’s chutzpah… it will be your accursed kind’s undoing.

  386. holy says:

    Negotiating with the terrorists ? Why not cut off your balls yourself? It would be cheaper, and less painful.

  387. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    I have not logged in to FB once in my life, but they have one of my e-mail addresses (for no reason)

    I am sorry to say that there is indeed a reason Facebook has your email address, even if you did not explicitly hand it to them. It likely happened one of two ways:

    Way #1: Someone who knew you put your email address into their contacts list and Facebook obtained it when this person deliberately synced up all their contacts with their Facebook account (something that Facebook “encourages,” if not outright demands, their users do).

    Way #2: Someone who knew you put your email address into their contacts list and did not deliberately sync up all their contacts with their Facebook account. However, Facebook obtained it anyway because they had the Facebook app installed on their smartphone, the Facebook software “phoned home” and…transmitted their list of contacts to FB entirely without their knowledge.

    (And, yes, FB did actually do this some years back on an older version of the Android OS [at least] until enough people discovered it, and complained about it, that they were forced to stop the practice after all the adverse publicity.)

    This makes me think that the idea that they keep a database of non-participants is true.

    Indeed it is true. The practice you describe is known as “shadow profiling,” and, while FB has denied doing it in the past, it is widely known that Facebook does keep tab on non-account holders.

    All it takes is for someone, anyone, who has a FB account to have a single data point about you (e.g. a name or email address). Whenever that name/email address appears online, FB will record it (and anything associated with it) as part of the process of building your “shadow” FB profile.

    You can read more about it here: https://theconversation.com/shadow-profiles-facebook-knows-about-you-even-if-youre-not-on-facebook-94804

    They do all sorts of unethical stuff.

    Based on their conduct over the past decade and a half, Facebook’s modus operandi seems to be:

    1) FB wants to do something (e.g download all your contacts), so they start doing that “something” without bothering to tell their account holders (or anyone else).

    2) FB continues to do whatever-it-is until the complaints start forming a trickle, then a flood, then a mountainous complaint tsunami. Then and only then does FB issue a cursory, boilerplate apology and, finally (at long last), stops doing whatever it was they probably shouldn’t have been doing in the first place.

    3) FB sees something else they want to do and the whole cycle begins anew.

    Why FB’s multi-billion member user base doesn’t seem to have twigged to any of this is a mystery to me. Perhaps there has been a Covid-19-like strain of masochism circulating for the past 15 years?

  388. Smartass says:

    Not surprised at the ban. The stuff you write here is nonsense and I come here periodically just to be amused.

    • Troll: Che Guava
  389. Vaterland says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I had to think about that particular comment of yours which I originally replied to. And there is a catch 22 with building a world order on lies: you will always need another lie to cover for the former one, and then another one to cover the lie you used to cover the lie. And give it enough time, let’s say 75 years since the end of WW 2, and you are stacked lies upon lies. And before you know it, especially when your propaganda department runs your government, you buy into your own lies and have nothing left but them. You too are playing your role in a movie script your own elite has written out for you. And then, on that one fateful day, when the curtain is lifted and it all comes crashing down, you cannot believe what you see. But yet there it is: that which remained when you stopped believing in it. Unbiased, incapable to be tricked or to be manipulated, like granite it stands there and as unforgiving as gravity it comes catching up to you. And kicking and screaming you are dragged into the street and into the light.

    May it be your Chernobyl! May it be a 1000 times Chernobyl! And may the ghosts of Dresden, Baghdad, Gaza and the Gulags rise from their graves and stand shoulder to shoulder to bare witness: I too have seen the end.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  390. gsjackson says:
    @gsjackson

    I would just amend this to point out that the prime candidate to regulate a dysfunctional communication environment would be Trump’s FCC. Since much of what is being banned by the social media sites can be seen as broadly favorable to Trump, you’d think such an effort might be at least gestating in his administration. But since he apparently restocked the swamp instead of draining it, no such luck.

    There is some sensitivity to First Amendment issues in his administration, as they were trying to use it to shoot down political correctness speech codes in colleges. But not enough.

  391. Ron Unz says:
    @Richard B

    Is there an article of yours or of other TUR writers debunking that notion that you could recommend?

    Sure, in my article I linked to several long articles from the NYT, WSJ, and AP that provide a pretty thorough timeline of the outbreak in China, which seems pretty reasonable to me. They do try to “spin” the story to highlight alleged Chinese malfeasance and cover-up, but at most they’re talking about maybe 6 days of delay back in mid-January. Afterwards, the Trump people ignored the whole problem for 60 days, leading to our current national disaster:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

    I’d also say this short cartoon video from China provides a fairly accurate—and funny—description of what happened:

    • Replies: @Biff
  392. Skeptikal says:
    @Hrw-500

    The guy who talks about FB being on the way out and no longer “in” with young people seems to be ignorant of the prime function of FB, which is to mine data on ALL the apps etc. that any FB user uses. Not *just* FB data, but ALL data.

    Anyone who uses FB at all for any purpose has opened their device to data mining of every single thing they do, everywhere they go, everyone they meet or text or speak to, all of their financial info if they do any online banking, their credit card info and records, etc. etc. etc.
    Facebook is a portal to ALL of a person’s data.
    Data mining is the name of the game.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  393. Ron Unz says:
    @anastasia

    The new virus strain was found on December 31, 2019, which means that the search was started sometime before that date….And with all of this funding and state requirements of accountability, far more than any western country, the Chinese government was completely unaware of what was happening until January 14?

    It’s all discussed at considerable length in the long WSJ, NYT, and AP articles I linked in my piece, whose factual accounts seem pretty plausible to me.

    The new viral disease was indeed discovered in Chinese patients in late December and reported to the WHO. But until mid-January, there wasn’t evidence of human-to-human transmission, which made the illness much more dangerous. Also, the first death didn’t occur until then.

    Wuhan is a city of 11M, and if a few dozen people come down with strange new illness, it only becomes much more “serious” when there’s evidence that people can infect each other and it can have fatal consequences. Otherwise, it could have been the equivalent of food poisoning.

    • Thanks: bluedog
  394. Not at all surprised UR would be banned from Facebooking. I am surprised that UR, which allows thoughtful articles and open conversation on World War II, the holocaust, various Israeli terror operations, the murder of JFK and 9/11, to name just a few, is allowed to possess an internet domain.

    I’m happy that UR operates. But I can’t quite understand how the powers have not shut it down.

    • Replies: @denk
  395. Saggy says: • Website
    @Kevin Barrett

    UR has published politically incorrect articles on such topics as Jews, immigration, and race for many years (alongside lots of less un-PC stuff) without triggering the censors.

    All that is well and good. The holohoax however is a different story. UR was marked from that point on.

    By the late 1960s and early 1970s, Mark Lane among others was publishing bestsellers exposing the JFK coup.

    Preposterous. Mark Lane didn’t expose anything, he was a hack. Absolutely nothing has come from his vacuous books. I not too long ago read Lane’s book, there is not even a suggestion of real evidence in it.

    So UR was almost certainly banned for exposing coronavirus biowar in a timely and potentially destabilizing manner.

    Good grief, UR didn’t expose anything, it, Unz, as he in wont to do, floated a wild hypothesis with not a suggestion of direct evidence.

    It is obvious that the Jews are scrubbing the net and the CV pandemic has given them a great cover to extend their control dramatically.

    While you continue to promote the holohoax, and look the other way while the Jews strangle the internet.

  396. No doubt Face Book Monitors are unaware of Dr. Garrett Hardin’s treatises on America’s Unique Population Problem; Immigration beginning 1970’s style.

    So be it. Some years ago, as FB emerged, my employer insisted I participate in FB postings.
    I quit and started my own business, sans FB. And my Liberal wife steers clear of FB for a variety of reasons, a full disclosure likely not tolerated by FB Monitors.

    FB would have faced a wave of legal challenge by now had it been efficacious.

    Ron, Good Riddance. Onward!

  397. @Vaterland

    Wow that sounds thrilling. I hope we see each other there. Such a scary dude. You should write some horror movies.

  398. I’m currently reading the other article pushed to the top today, wherein Michael Hudson explains plainly how the 99% are getting screwed while the 1% are getting an unimaginable bailout. Again. This was published on April 21st. You don’t think this may have something to do with Facebook giving you the boot?

  399. Iris says:
    @Colin Wright

    So Albright couldn’t have killed 500,000; indeed, unless you can show total demographic collapse occurred as a result of the sanctions, the death toll couldn’t have been even a fraction of that.

    These were figures from the UN’s UNICEF, who were present in Iraq at the time. Not sure why the condescendance, patronising and dismissal of Iraqi children’s suffering.

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) – A senior U.N. official said Friday about half a million children under the age of 5 have died in Iraq since the imposition of U.N. sanctions 10 years ago.

    Anupama Rao Singh, country director for the U.N. Children’s Fund (UNICEF), made the estimate in an interview with Reuters.

    “In absolute terms we estimate that perhaps about half a million children under 5 years of age have died, who ordinarily would not have died had the decline in mortality that was prevalent over the 70s and the 80s continued through the 90s,” she said.

    A UNICEF survey published in August showed the mortality rate among Iraqi children under 5 had more than doubled in the government-controlled south and center of Iraq during the sanctions.

    Baghdad said the UNICEF survey proved that the sanctions were killing thousands of children every month and called for an immediate end to the embargo.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  400. Usura says:
    @CanSpeccy

    -What counts as a “major” “alt” media asset? With sufficiently ambiguous definitions, any claim can be made to sound true.

    -Colby (allegedly) made that remark in the context of a remarkably non-diverse and compliant mainstream press a half century ago; the internet age isn’t comparable, and historical comparison in this case is insufficient to safely make your assumption.

    How best to promote such a site as the Unz Review? Go through the motions of suppressing its readership in a crass and blatant way, e.g., by having CIA asset FaceBook delete all links to it.

    That’s actually rather obviously the opposite of the best way to promote a site like Unz review. The best way would be to relentlessly feature all its articles in prominent places, and to pay hundreds of news stations, academics, and sock-puppet accounts to re-post and discuss them, no matter how many flag the content as ‘abusive’.

    If your theory were correct, and the motive for banning Unz was to solidify and expand popular support for its “crackpot” theory regarding COVID-19 as a red-herring, then Unz’s readership should increase after the facebook ban. This is the exact opposite of what happened.

    Why would the CIA want to promote crackpot conspiracy theories? (1) To distract attention from the conspiracy theories that are true; and (2) To discourage belief in, or even consideration of, conspiracy theories by painting those who do as crackpots — which mostly they are!

    The dual goal you allege contains a contradiction. If the distraction is successful, then more people will become more fixated on Unz’s theories. This means less people will consider such theories crackpot. If the discouraging is successful, then ever more people will come to consider Unz’s theories as crackpot. It seems impossible that your CIA boogeyman could want both these things at once while remaining logically consistent.

    A simpler take: the ban is neither intended to distract nor discourage, but to isolate and suppress.

    • Agree: Astuteobservor II
  401. @davidgmillsatty

    I appreciate your comments. That guy is a nut.

  402. Gast [AKA "Gast (noch immer)2"] says:

    @ Ron Unz

    If I read between the lines you are willing to sacrifice the “fatal 0,2 %”? You will offer Facebook to ditch the anti-immigration material if they revoke their ban?

    I remember that you have a pro-immigration stance (at least you have no problems with the demographic shift in California during your lifetime, if I remember one recent discussion correctly).

    I am certainly no big fan of the VDare-crowd, but not because I am pro-immigration. I despise those authors because they leave out the essential jewish angle of the problem. Always describing the symptoms without studying the root cause, is an intellectually dishonest way and soon gets boring.

    But as a white man, who is losing his homeland (Germany) due to mass immigration, and who hates to be in the multi-cultural hellholes our cities have become, I would certainly respect your publication much less, if all anti-immigration material would disappear. What would be the point of being critical to the jewish agenda, if one would leave out the most important program of this agenda? White genocide is real, much more real that all that “New Cold War” stuff (US against Russia or China) most of your authors are peddling, (for me even the original Cold War with the Soviet Union was a hoax).

    But I was never under the impression that this publication is “pro White”, and since you are a jew, this would probably be a strange expectation
    .
    But I want to stress that you free speech policy is essential for me. If you start censoring people because of a deal with facebook, I would leave this place immediately.

    • Replies: @CanSpeccy
  403. Iris says:
    @CanSpeccy

    (1) To distract attention from the conspiracy theories that are true; and (2) To discourage belief in, or even consideration of, conspiracy theories by painting those who do as crackpots — which mostly they are!

    These ideas are neither new, nor original. It has long been obvious, and often stated on this website, that some conspiracy theories are deliberate institutional damage control.

    What is new, however, is that this is a rare occasion where a possible conspiracy is being discussed and analysed in real time. As proven by past conspiracies, it is during the unfolding and short process where a conspiracy is being executed that details can get out of control, compromising information can slip, and revealing anomalies be noticed by the public.

    Discussing the origins of Covid-19 is a no-go zone.

  404. Art says:
    @Black Picard

    Sorry, but it is well past the point of no return for the American Sheep who, by & large, sit back and meekly take it up the a$s by a group of unelected officials in the District of Criminals, NYC & London.

    Agree 100% — it is to late to do anything on a national level.

    But – we can know our neighbors and our local political systems – so when everything goes to hell nationally, we can have a measure of self control over our neighborhoods.

    That is all that I am aiming at.

    • Agree: Poco
  405. newsradio says:
    @Ron Unz

    The timing is certainly interesting in light of Pompeo’s visit last week.

    Also China has turned towards more aggressive and proactive diplomacy which it calls “wolf warrior diplomacy” in recent months in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak. This has challenged to some degree the anti-China US narrative on coronavirus and definitely angered the US government.

    If the US wanted to kill a Chinese ambassador or diplomat to “send a message” to China to cut out the “wolf warrior diplomacy”, I would imagine Israel would be among the best places to do so because of the close ties between the US and Israel and particularly the Netanyahu administration.

    “Coronavirus: China’s new army of tough-talking diplomats”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52562549

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Alden
  406. Mark Hunter says: • Website

    James Kirkpatrick, a writer at Vdare.com, recently suggested two things the president or Congress could do to fight Tech Totalitarians:

    1. Remove the Section 230 protection of the Communications Decency Act from Facebook, Twitter, etc. That section gives them immunity from publisher liability. In other words, treat Facebook and Twitter as the publishers they are because they have decided to exercise editorial control over what they broadcast.

    Last year Senator Josh Hawley (R Missouri) proposed such a bill:
    foxnews.com/tech/josh-hawley-takes-aim-big-tech.

    2. Nullify the federal contracts of Amazon and other Tech Totalitarians unless they adopt a First Amendment-like policy. (I don’t know if Facebook and Twitter have any federal contracts but Google and Amazon do.) The president could do this using the Defense Production Act.

    • Replies: @Miro23
    , @gsjackson
  407. @TomSchmidt

    “Complain if you want about Zuck, and I use no FB products, but he is apparently a first-class coder.”

    “Zuck” may be a first-class coder, but Facebook is functionally a piece of crap, just like Gates’ Windows.

    • Replies: @Alden
  408. CanSpeccy says: • Website
    @Gast

    I remember that you have a pro-immigration stance (at least you have no problems with the demographic shift in California during your lifetime, if I remember one recent discussion correctly).

    Ron follows the standard Jewish MO: serve the interests of the indigenous elite by aiding them in the exploitation of the indigenous mass.

    Today, in America, that means more cheap immigrant muscle power, and more cheap immigrant brains at the expense of decent jobs for native-born Americans.

    The first objective you achieve by advocating for a huge increase in minimum wage, thereby incentivizing the employment of illegal immigrants in the black economy at below minimum wage and without tax deductions.

    The second you achieve by calling for more H1b visas so that your American trained engineers can be replaced by cheap Asians of the kind who have just screwed Boeing with their supremely bad solution to design flaws with the 737Max.

    The payoff is not only influence with the elite, but the elimination of the dominant European majority, creating a society more amenable to ever increasing Jewish power.

  409. Miro23 says:
    @Mark Hunter

    1. Remove the Section 230 protection of the Communications Decency Act from Facebook, Twitter, etc. That section gives them immunity from publisher liability. In other words, treat Facebook and Twitter as the publishers they are because they have decided to exercise editorial control over what they broadcast.

    This is a good idea, but of course, it’s going nowhere since political power lies with Facebook, Twitter and their NWO friends.

    The US actually needs a much more fundamental change in the political landscape.

  410. Iris says:
    @newsradio

    I would imagine Israel would be among the best places to do so because of the close ties between the US and Israel and particularly the Netanyahu administration.

    They are saying that the 57 yo Chinese ambassador would have died of a natural heart attack in his sleep. The only time, to my knowledge, a similar thing happened is the Russian ambassador to the UN dying of a heart attack in NYC, a troubling parallel.

    Chinese diplomats have been spearheading the response to Covid-19 accusations directed at China; this death looks like a message. Or a warning not to make any move while Isreal is about to annex the West Bank?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  411. @Fran Taubman

    “… no one I know would commit mass murder. No one.”

    Others have thought otherwise…

    “Homo sum, nihil humanum mihi alienum puto.” Terence.

    All dogs have teeth and all dogs can and will bite in the right circumstances.

  412. All conservatives should go to Gab. I have never used FB and dropped twitter 5 years ago.

  413. @MLK

    Vanity of vantities. All is vanity. – Ecclesiastes

    (Being ignored is not exactly the same thing as being censored.)

    Meanwhile, unlike with Judeo Lese Majeste, everyone and their cousin criticizes the Trump Administration every day — and gets away with it. It is a national pass time. So how can RU’s essay be such a “bombshell” when he was not really pressing for anything substantive? Thus, I am unpersuaded his essay on CV19, or the 0.2% anti-immigration stuff on UR, has anything to do with the banning by FB.

    I think it was just a test*. In biology (the intrusive types anyway) a main way to determine if something is alive or not is to irritate it. Poke it, burn it, chemically assault it… make it move on its own one way or another. It might be the same with political science where investigators test the body politic, asking as they shut down this, and censor that, “How alive really is this democracy, the living Constitution and its organ The First Amendment?”

    Frankly, I do not much evidence in the way of irritation. Rather, RU along with most others these days, writes in the most tepid way imaginable:
    “So I suppose”
    “I will try”
    “To get in touch”
    “To clarify this issue…”

    I am a great fan of the humble, and the understated plan of attack. But maybe something a bit more spirited is in order?

    *If you really want to figure out why UR got banned, look to where U most rocked the boat. My guess is Israel 1st and JLM; and of course the counter punch comes at an odd time!

  414. I probably disagree with 95% of the material posted on Unz and I have repeatedly called it an outlet that teems with racist sewer dwellers; however, the remaining 5% is worth the rest of the alternate media put together, and I treasure the fact that I can say anything I want in the full knowledge that I will not be censored. As such I am certain that Unz’ coronavirus articles were merely an excuse to silence it, and that the actual reason was the fact that it has never toed the Wall Street zionist owned regime line on anything. So this ban was predictable, and will certainly be followed – if it has not already happened – by a ban on Twitter, and possibly shadow banning by Google.

    By the way, anyone still using Fakebook is doing so in the full awareness that it’s a zionist controlled surveillance platform. So I don’t recommend that anyone continue on it. I deleted my own account in 2017.

  415. Biff says:
    @Ron Unz

    Is someone/anyone able to post that video clip to their Facebook page, and would it stick?
    (I would try myself, but I don’t do FB)

  416. @James N. Kennett

    Interesting Economist portrait/hagiography of the Avaaz founder here.

    https://www.1843magazine.com/content/features/robert-butler/man-behind-avaaz

    Patel holds Canadian and British passports. His father is a Kenyan-Indian, his mother English with Russian and Jewish ancestry. His great-grandparents include a cantor in a synagogue in Warsaw, a seamstress for Queen Victoria, and a merchant in Gujarat.

    (PPE at Oxford)

    After Oxford, he went to Harvard, where his graduate thesis—on non-military protection of civilians in areas of conflict—was supervised by Michael Ignatieff, the intellectual broadcaster who became a Canadian politician. At the John F. Kennedy school of government, internships are part of the course, and Patel, typically, interned at the United Nations for the then secretary-general, Kofi Annan.

    As you do. I imagine people who get those gigs are selected (groomed?) very carefully indeed.

    “As well as the UN, Patel has worked—either directly or as a consultant—for the International Crisis Group, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Gates Foundation, Care International and the International Centre for Transitional Justice”

    The Facebook committee contains names like Alan Rusbridger, former Guardian editor, whose “Comment Is Free” policy is well known for banning consistent opposition to the liberal party line. Posting “Demography Is Destiny” will get you banned from commenting.

    Helle Thorning-Schmidt, aka Mrs Stephen Kinnock (son of the former UK Labour leader and EU apparatchik), is the woman who used her position as head of the Save The Children charity to press for a no-fly zone over Aleppo. There’s a chap from George Soros’ Central European University, another from Soros’ Open Society Initiative for West Africa, another from the Soros-funded Human Rights Watch.

  417. gsjackson says:
    @Mark Hunter

    The first would only cause these websites to eliminate more material because they would have to be alert to defamatory content, since they could now be sued for it. Under ordinary First Amendment analysis publishers cannot be told by government what they should include.

    I don’t know how much leverage the second would provide. Certainly sounds worth a try.

    But I maintain that the new Ministry of Truth can be attacked via existing First Amendment case law, as outlined above.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  418. “Still, careless mistakes are sometimes made. A couple of days ago Facebook announced its new “oversight board” to adjudicate these sorts of matters, so I suppose I will try to get in touch with them to clarify this issue.”

    Have you actually appealed to FB and received a “final content decision” ? If so I hope you have your skates on.

    https://www.oversightboard.com/appeals-process/

    Appeals must be submitted within 15 days

    A person has a period of 15 days from the time when Facebook or Instagram sends an update about its final Content Policy decision to submit an appeal to the board. When the board selects a case to review, it will typically make its decision within 90 days of Facebook’s decision. This 90-day period includes the time required to translate information submitted by the person appealing, for Facebook to compile and submit supporting information, for the board members to deliberate their decision and for Facebook to implement any decision.

  419. I would think it a badge of honor in today’s culture to be banned from Facebook. Like Gilad Atzmon has said, “If they want to burn it, you want to read it…”.

    That being said, my own account on Facebook was deleted for no reason that I am aware of. The only thing I used the account for was for my software development announcements. As a result, the only thing I can think of was that Facebook was tracking my comments on those sites I used it to sign into and didn’t like them. Seems like a good case for an invasion of privacy. However, since I was never afforded a reason (or a reply) to the several queries I submitted to them, I have no proof of this.

    I read the Unz Review quite often and appreciate the in-depth analysis on Jewish and Israeli issues, most of which are now easily corroborated with other sources.

    However, I have noticed a “conspiracy theory” mentality in a number of articles regarding such topics as the recent COVID-19 virus and how it came about.

    I find the articles on these topics suspiciously lacking of quality corroborative sources leaving most conclusions to be inferred, based on what appear to be coincidental events. This not to say that such conclusions are necessarily false but are at the very least questionable.

    Nonetheless, there is absolutely nothing wrong with allowing credible authors to present their claims in such a forum as this one. And I applaud Ron Unz for creating it.

    I am also aware of how many people have begun to leave Facebook in disgust or who simply use it as several commenters here have mentioned; merely as a way to keep in touch with friends and relatives.

    Given this, I believe that there is now a window of opportunity to create an alternative to Facebook for a minimal amount of cost in terms of a prototyped application. Such alternative platforms are beginning to make a small mark around the world with a Russian platform being the most prominent one I am familiar with (and it is in English)…

    • Agree: Fran Taubman
  420. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ridiculous to accuse you of publishing anti Asian remarks Ron. You’re very pro asian and especially pro China as overlord of the world economy and Chinese immigration.

    You’re very pro Hispanic immigration as proven by your many articles about the former crime ridden ghettoes of E Palo Alto and Los Angeles reformed by Hispanic immigrants.

    I never watch TV news or read newspapers. So I haven’t seen that the media is exonerating or blaming China. From occasional glances at headlines, I gather that it’s all Trump’s fault.

    Clicking thru the channels saw on MSNBC last night a big fat ugly black woman with Biden next to her proclaiming that by November Covid hoax will be so virulent we can’t have in person voting.

    Only way to have the election is mail in ballots according to the democrats

  421. Faece book is a virus free to themasses ,

    designed to unperson .02% plus of the subscribers

    that do not wish to participate in the zomby apocalypse promoted by main scream media

  422. Alden says:
    @TheTrumanShow

    Lots of first class coders around. Gates’ windows, a virus magnet.

  423. Alden says:
    @newsradio

    I doubt it was the Americans who killed the ambassador. If he was actually killed it was probably the Israelis. I read print and on line Jewish community publications.

    For the last 15 years they have been full of how much Chinese and Jews have in common, encouraging Jew Chinese marriages, etc. I assumed American Jews are preparing their next big jump in 150 years. 1880 Russia to America 2000 prepare the way for a 2030 jump to China.

    Maybe it hasn’t worked out. Maybe China knows how Jews operate and isn’t letting them in on schedule. Maybe Israelis killed the ambassador to punish China for not obeying the chosen as Europeans & Americans Christians have always done.

    Or maybe the ambassador died a natural death. So much for Godfree Roberts praise of the Chinese health system.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  424. tomo says:

    I still post UNZ articles on FB
    I cut and paste the most informative part of the article and then I attach the screenshot of the page and i tell my friends to find the URL there and to go to U N Z dot com to read the rest.
    If there are external links to the article as the one above about Israel saying USSA warned them etc – I provide that link as well

    IT seems to work it tricks the FB Orwellian algo

  425. Ron Unz says:
    @Alden

    I doubt it was the Americans who killed the ambassador. If he was actually killed it was probably the Israelis….Or maybe the ambassador died a natural death.

    Well, there was a very big NYT story about the Israel visit of Pompeo, who’s the leading anti-China person in the Trump Administration and former head of the CIA. The leading point of contention during the trip was Pompeo’s demands that Israel severe some of its major economic ties with China, including leasing a big port to a Chinese company and hiring China for their biggest desalination project:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/world/middleeast/israel-pompeo-annexation-netanyahu.html

    Then, a couple of days later, the Chinese ambassador, age 58, is found dead. The exact motives and circumstances behind what happened certainly aren’t clear to me, but it seems an *extraordinarily* implausible coincidence.

    My own guess is that Pompeo called in some favors with some Mossad people for the hit, probably without the authorization of the Israeli government itself.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Usura
  426. utu says:
    @Ron Unz

    I had similar a take:

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-102/#comment-3903447
    Trying to figure out possible motive or mechanism behind the death of the ambassador made me think about a Southern politicians who once said: “The only way I can lose this election is if I’m caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.” Clearly a sign of chutzpah and hubris. A dead body in the bed is what is needed to reach some people.

    Who did wake up with the dead ambassador in bed? Obviously it is Netanyahu who few days before was directly told by Pompeo:

    Pompeo came to Israel with a very strict message – stop all Chinese investment in Israel, either in high tech companies or infrastructure.

    Good relations between Israel and China have caused heartache in the relationship between Washington and Jerusalem. For example, Israel was forced to cancel the sale of the Phalcon Airborne Early Warning System to China during the Camp David summit after money had changed hands. Israel was forced to compensate China for the cancellation.

    The Israeli security organizations are very concerned about Chinese involvement, especially at two strategic sites where the sensitivity is particularly high. One is control of the light train now being built here that passes close to Kirya, the site that includes the Ministry of Defense, IDF headquarters and the air force’s high command.

    The message to reach the hard headed and corrupt people like Netanyahu must be delivered in a very hard way. So now Netanyahu with a dead body in his bed has a reason and an excuse – the Chinese will be understanding – to do what he was asked in the message delivered by Pompeo.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  427. @Skeptikal

    “Anyone who uses FB at all for any purpose has opened their device to data mining of every single thing they do, everywhere they go, everyone they meet or text or speak to, all of their financial info if they do any online banking, their credit card info and records, etc. etc. etc.”

    Could you explain how that works? Is it that, according to my Brave browser, even UNZ.com has the following “cross site trackers”?

  428. Ron Unz says:
    @utu

    The message to reach the hard headed and corrupt people like Netanyahu must be delivered in a very hard way. So now Netanyahu with a dead body in his bed has a reason and an excuse – the Chinese will be understanding – to do what he was asked in the message delivered by Pompeo.

    Yes, that would also be my own guess about the circumstances.

    I think the best analogy may come from Godfather I. The powerful studio tycoon ignores the requests of the Corleone family, wakes up with the decapitated head of his prize race horse in his bed. The Corleones didn’t have anything against the race horse, but wanted to send a powerful warning, and that’s probably what happened to the Chinese ambassador.

    • Agree: utu
  429. Usura says:
    @Ron Unz

    Israel had three inconclusive national elections in little over a year, and Netanyahu is facing prosecution on corruption charges, starting next week. The Pompeo meeting follows closely on the nominal resolution of these conflicts, wherein Netanyahu and Gantz will each serve an 18th month term as Prime Minister, with the other serving as “alternate prime minister”.

    From Politico: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/17/israel-netanyahu-gantz-elections-262858

    Still, the new position is supposed to enjoy all the trappings of the prime minister, including an official residence and, key for Netanyahu, an exemption from a law that requires public officials who are not prime minister to resign if charged with a crime.

    Astonishingly, Netanyahu has as of a few hours ago requested to skip his first corruption trial. If the Chinese ambassador was killed by Israeli operatives, or by American operatives accompanying Pompeo with the permission of Israeli leadership, it may have been in exchange for behind the scenes American guarantees of Netanyahu’s immunity, and perhaps overall assistance in resolving the internecine Israeli political struggle.

  430. bluedog says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Oh don’t worry China will responded but like the Russians it will be at their choosing and their time, they are a very patient people choosing the method and time which will inflict the greatest pain.!!!!

  431. @bluedog

    But like Ron stated. Even the 1999 bombing China didn’t respond.

    I guess time will tell.

  432. anon[477] • Disclaimer says:

    This’ll make facebook hate you even more!

    https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2005/2005.06199.pdf

    It’s highly unlikely this frankenstein bug evolved in the wild. The virus was evidently cultured to adapt to humans, not gene-spliced.

    The Burnett Womack Center. Battelle. CIA DO. They’re gonna swing for this.

  433. Johan says:

    Facebook is of course one of the many ways how the Zionist Jews gather and bind the Gentile herds together in order to milk them as data cows. It is a mob system, mob level.

  434. @Iris

    ‘…These were figures from the UN’s UNICEF, who were present in Iraq at the time. Not sure why the condescendance, patronising and dismissal of Iraqi children’s suffering…’

    …and I’m sure they found it easy to collect impartial and verifiable statistics in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

    But there. Apparently I have to suspend my critical faculties — lest I be suspected of indifference to the suffering of children.

    Alright: you give credence to half a million?

    I think two million died. Clearly, I’m much more caring, empathic, and humanitarian than you.

    • Replies: @Iris
  435. Johan says:

    ” The reason they came after you (Unz) now is because you have done a good job informing the public what’s really happening.”

    Quoted from some commentor here.

    [MORE]

    Now this is imaginative nonsense.
    At large, concerning the censorship happening on the internet. Intelligent censorship requires intelligence, idiots cannot intelligently determine what needs to be censored. They are just a collection of guys who randomly shoot in the wild at everything which moves, which ‘looks like’ or smells like ‘the enemy’. According to the shadows in their minds, and the vague images placed in their mind, according to association, often they react like Pavlov’s dogs.
    So, if some site owner thinks he is targeted intelligently because he is rightfully considered a danger, this is merely a vain self-congratulation, and an overestimation of intelligence. Numerous sites and people are shot at daily through the snakepits (the media), numerous people being censored, numerous being reported, and this on the basis of the above, mere stupidity.

    So, they shoot with hail (buckshot, or how do you call this in English..), and they shoot all the time, and when someone is in the way he might get hit at some time, often there is even hardly a reason, except that something became part of a set of ducks to shoot on through wild association (they do not study all the texts and philosophies). And of course, realizing that you are an accidental hit makes it even more painful… some vanity is in the way here, so they mostly all complain loudly…
    At other times the reason a site gets hit is because the keywords which the confused minds of the censors have learned to be connected with evil are dominantly present. That is the most intelligent manner of targeted shooting (censoring) they can do.

    Consider something which happened in The Netherlands.
    Pigs ears where placed hanging in front of a building.
    So, the Jews from the synagogue next to this building started to shout and complain, pigs ears being some threatening symbol, and they expressed their disgust in the media, it must be neo-Nazis who did this, and they wrote dramatically ‘this reminds us of the darkest period…’ Well, you know, everything reminds them of that when it comes in handy…
    Now it turned out that the building next door was a museum of art, and the pigs ears where an experiment of modern artists.. (yeah, modern artists are the most degenerated idiots ever, but that’s another story)

    So, you have two camps of fools, in neither camps there is anything much of an intelligent coherence, and so there is often nothing to intelligently target… Even if one of the party has something intelligent to say, those who are doing the shooting (media) and finally the censorship lack any intelligence to recognize it (intelligence is required to recognize intelligence) and they merely act like trained dogs, and these dogs are not very sophisticatedly discriminate of what they bark and bite at. To say the least..

    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
  436. @CanSpeccy

    The gold-barring of this comment is curious.

    It’s either a boldfaced affirmation of your claims about this site or a post-it-note tagged to an obviously paranoid contribution.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  437. @bluedog

    Howdy,

    Them folk, the Russians, and Persians,
    should
    drop BOMBS on the
    VATICAN
    and
    ROMAN CATHOLIC IDOLATROUS CATHEDRALS

    Thee Law Of GOD COMMANDS such;
    King Jesus DEMANDS such…………………

    THAT WILL “inflict the greatest pain.!!!!”

    AYE………….

  438. @Truth3

    I once told a moslem that the Koran was written by a mossad agent named gabriel

    and placed under his pillow by his mother

    Since Mohamed could not read nor write it was left there undiscovered for another 200 years

    The jewish priesthood knew that Jesus father was INFACT the high priest Zechariah
    and covered the truth by planting the idea that he was born from a virgin ,a popular idea amongst the pagans

    Yours truly Sherlock

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  439. @Potemkin Villiage Bank

    This is the best post of the week. Hilarious. Islam is a Mossad plant. Muslims head for the hills!!!

  440. Iris says:
    @Colin Wright

    Of course, dear, how could the Iraqi government, the UN, the UNICEF, The Lancet, know about the Iraqi death toll from sanctions and Iraq War.

    Obviously, Tel Aviv and Colin Wright know better.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  441. @Fran Taubman

    Thank you Fran the award is an honor

    Only clowns and mystics speak the truth

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  442. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Iris

    They are saying that the 57 yo Chinese ambassador would have died of a natural heart attack in his sleep.

    Er, is this event really so wildly improbable as seems to be implied on TUR? Don’t ambassadors, like opera singers, spend an awful lot of their time working their way through lots of rich food? I can’t imagine this was someone used to having to make do with shoveling cheese and crackers into his gob on a regular basis.

    A calorie-bomb diet coupled with an age of 57 years does not strike me as something that is likely to make the odds against his having a heart attack all that great. Add in the fact that he was an ambassador, of all things, and to Israel, of all places (surely a stressful job at the best of times), and his abruptly pegging out does not appear to be the sort of thing that the odds-makers in Vegas would be betting their own money against.

    Was this chap one of those vegan pests who stole all of his food from the mouths of starving rabbits and spent his weekends competing in triathlons? Is that the bit I’m missing?

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @Usura
  443. denk says:
    @Just another serf

    [[[sobs]]] enjoy our whining,
    much like they enjoy putting out
    Message in Plain Sight to mock us.

    Besides, it keep people off the streets .

  444. denk says:

    There used to be three reasons for hope.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20050616000008/http://www.richardneville.com.au/Journal/2004/journal200405.html

    nO more saving grace now.
    murikka is kaput.

  445. @Johan

    Unz is a big site and the decision to censor it is not like the decision to ban some random dude on facebook. Let’s be clear: the US security state has vast numbers of people working on internet propaganda, there are as many such people directly or indirectly involved in “monitoring” these sorts of “threat” sites as there are people posting on them. Vast, unlimited sums of money are available.

    Indeed, the only bad thing about Unz being banned is that being banned is sometimes a way to give controlled opposition credibility.

  446. @Potemkin Villiage Bank

    Welcome the Jew haters on this site only pick the conspiracies that work for them. It is a jew centric conspiracy site. You broke the code. The ultimate conspiracy to rattle the conspirators. I love it. It shows how stupid they are all.
    Hate the Jew website by RU.

  447. @Anonymous

    If they were going to murder him why not do a false flag airplane takedown and blame it on a terrorist.
    Heart attack? Where is the fun in that?

  448. @AnonStarter

    Edit: … a post-it-note tagged to an obviously paranoid exceptionally risible contribution.

    Thank you, Mr. Unz, for confirming that.

  449. You’re in good company Unzis, you’ve joined Farrakhan, the Palestinians, Venezuelans, Iranians, Ecuador, Nicaragua, even the commies you hate so much, pretty much everyone on the empires shitlist. It always amazes me at the amount of pro-Trump propaganda/fake news they allow though, seeing some of the stuff my family and friends post, its ridiculous. Fox News on steroids…. Probably not much different with Biden.
    Facebook = home of Pro-establishment boomers. I stay away..

    Good article from a commie on this subject:

    https://rainershea.com/f/the-pentagon’s-plans-to-crack-down-on-dissent

    https://www.rt.com/news/488239-facebook-censors-soviet-flag-reichstag/

    A search of my saved articles returns lots on facebook and censorship, a few that stood out:

    [MORE]

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181219-facebook-censoring-images-of-starving-yemen-children/

    https://grayzoneproject.com/2018/10/23/facebook-censorship-of-alternative-media-just-the-beginning-says-top-neocon-insider/

    https://www.rt.com/news/435942-facebook-telesur-censorship-venezuela/

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/10/12/facebook-accused-full-frontal-suppression-dissent-after-independent-media-swept-mass

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/12/muzzlewatch-israel-based-facebook-effort-targets-ilhan-omar-and-rashida-tlaib/

    https://themindunleashed.com/2019/04/facebook-removes-rafael-correa-page.html

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/12/28/facebooks-secret-censorship-manual-exposed-platform-takes-down-video-about-israel

    https://sputniknews.com/us/201810121068814924-Reporters-Pages-Shut-Down-By-Facebook/

    https://theintercept.com/2017/12/30/facebook-says-it-is-deleting-accounts-at-the-direction-of-the-u-s-and-israeli-governments/

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20191009-campaign-launched-to-end-facebooks-attack-on-palestinian-content/

    https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-lawmakers-call-genocide-palestinians-gets-thousands-facebook-likes

    https://fair.org/home/facebooks-new-propaganda-partners/

    • Thanks: Biff
    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  450. @gsjackson

    [Rescinding publisher liability protection] would only cause these websites [Farcebook etc.] to eliminate more material because they would have to be alert to defamatory content, since they could now be sued for it.

    That would be impractical and cost a fortune. They couldn’t possibly pour of ever post trying to determine if it is libeling someone. Many libelous posts would be bound to get through. I should think Facebook etc. would decide to behave as if the First Amendment applied to them to get their protection back.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  451. @redmudhooch

    When can we post our heroes in Iran media? Free speech in Iran is a real bitch.

  452. denk says:
    @swamped

    if they want to bring down the hateful CCP, then that’s at least one thing in their favor & with to wish them luck

    At least you’ve a very apt moniker.

    hehehe

  453. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz

    It’s not this year’s flu season that weakens America. It’s the lockdowns of the economies of our largest state economies that will steadily weaken us.

    New York Massachusetts Jersey Michigan and Pennsylvania allegedly are the hardest hit states. But who knows if the figures are true or just a mass of lies created for who knows what nefarious purpose?

  454. Bert says:
    @Timmy75

    Your succinct commentary on THE STATE is a great argument for demarchy.

  455. Erebus says:
    @davidgmillsatty

    … a bat carona virus in 2013…

    Are you talking about RaTG13?

    If you are, quite compelling arguments have been made that RaTG13 is a wholly fictitious virus that never existed physically.

    If you’re not, perhaps you’d be so kind as to name the virus you’re referring to.

    • Replies: @denk
  456. tomo says:
    @AnonFromTN

    he said democracies – that rules out USSA

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  457. denk says:
    @Erebus

    Davidsatty is a pain in the ass.

    The troll keep questioning issues that have been thoroughly explained many times over.

  458. gsjackson says:
    @Mark Hunter

    OK, I see how that might work, if that’s what Congress (Hawley) has in mind. Hard to imagine the House going along with any of it, though, especially given how many shekels the social media giants have to sprinkle upon the Hill. But then it’s hard to imagine any sort of public policy that benefits the public emerging from Washington.

    • Replies: @Mark Hunter
  459. Mark Hunter says: • Website
    @gsjackson

    I agree.

    It’s in Trump’s interest to support Hawley on Section 230 and to use the Defense Production Act as in my earlier post. The Tech Totalitarians hate Trump (even if he doesn’t always deserve the hatred) and absent some action on his part they will work against him on the sly.

    Speaking of Google putting a damper on Unz.com, they almost completely removed Richard Spencer’s Jihad Watch. It used to rank near the top when you searched “jihad,” now it’s so far down – even if you search “jihad watch” or “jihadwatch” – you give up before reaching it if it’s there at all. On the other hand, again as with Unz.com, it’s still at the top using Bing or DDG.

    Buy the way, in my last post I typed  “pour of ever post”  but was thinking  “pour over every post.”

  460. @Ron Unz

    Hi Ron, I wonder if this has had anything to do with it?

    Bill Gates is the world’s largest vaccine producer [1] and, since US President Trump halted US support pending an investigation of the World Health Organization’s handling of the SARS-CoV2 outbreak, the single largest donor to WHO [2] and the CDC Foundation [3]. These agencies are now marketing arms for his vaccine empire which he uses in a wide variety of ways to control worldwide messaging for his financial advantage.

    [MORE]

    In February of 2019, Chairman of the US House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Schiff wrote to Facebook, Google[4] and Amazon[5] demanding they censor “vaccine misinformation,” a term meaning all skepticism toward government and industry pronouncements about vaccine safety or efficacy – whether true or not.

    [1] What you need to know about the COVID-19 vaccine https://www.gatesnotes.com/Health/What-you-need-to-know-about-the-COVID-19-vaccine
    [2] How is the World Health Organization funded? https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/who-funds-world-health-organization-un-coronavirus-pandemic-covid-trump/
    [3] CDC Foundation Receives $13.5 Million in Grants for Global Health https://www.cdcfoundation.org/blog-entry/cdc-foundation-receives-13.5-million-grant-from-gates-foundation
    [4] Schiff Sends Letter to Google, Facebook Regarding Anti-Vaccine Misinformation
    https://schiff.house.gov/news/press-releases/schiff-sends-letter-to-google-facebook-regarding-anti-vaccine-misinformation
    [5] Schiff Sends Letter to Amazon CEO Regarding Anti-Vaccine Misinformation
    https://schiff.house.gov/news/press-releases/schiff-sends-letter-to-amazon-ceo-regarding-anti-vaccine-misinformation

    Backstory: For those who can’t recall, Gates was unethical whilst at Microsoft which promised products but what IT users actually received was only a “license to use”. Additionally, the corporation entered into joint ventures with small tech start-ups which was a stratagem for stealing their intellectual property. without paying due compensation.

    • Thanks: denk
    • Replies: @denk
  461. snag says:

    One of the reasons UR is welcome on FB.

    “Plame, 56, became embroiled in another scandal in 2017 when she tweeted a link to an antisemitic article titled “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars.” One sentence from the article read, “For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up” and compared Jews to “rat poison.”

    The article was from The Unz Review, a far-right journal that regularly publishes antisemitic material, as well as other racist and white supremacist articles?

    https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/05/19/anti-extremism-group-launches-campaign-against-congressional-candidate-tainted-by-antisemitism/

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @snag
    , @Wizard of Oz
  462. geokat62 says:
    @snag

    You missed the best part of the article:

    [Alliance to Combat Extremism] ACE President Ian Sugar said, “It’s appalling that Valerie Plame is running for Congress. Democrats don’t peddle racist content from white supremacist websites or fund their campaigns with checks from Holocaust deniers. But apparently Valerie Plame missed that memo.”

    “The Democratic Party is an anti-racist party. Period,” he stated. “It shouldn’t nominate bigots. … No amount of money is going to be enough to cover up Valerie Plame’s record of hate.”

    Add ACE to the list of JSOs (e.g., ADL, SPLC) that purportedly fight against “hate.”

    • LOL: mark green
    • Replies: @Iris
    , @snag
    , @gsjackson
  463. Iris says:
    @geokat62

    I believe this is the same Valerie Plame, who as a CIA officer got shamelessly outed and her life endangered by the G.W. Bush NeoCon clique and the WP, to punish her husband, then diplomatic envoy Kuwait, who dared debunking the WMD lie of Niger uranium sales to Iraq.

    The Tribe is spiteful and forever vengeful.

    • Replies: @Usura
    , @Alden
  464. snag says:
    @geokat62

    I didn’t miss it, trust me ,…

  465. gsjackson says:
    @geokat62

    Warning to all: Don’t read around the political spectrum in the current Age of Disinformation unless you want to confront some serious cognitive dissonance. In the pro-Trump Q world, Plame, for some not quite apparent reason, is being cast as a Deep State villainess, one of their swamp creatures that the black hats in the CIA are now trying to get ensconced in Congress. This despite the fact that she previously came to public attention as a thorn in the side of Operation Iraqi Freedom, the sort of interventionism that Trump and Q are supposed to be leading us out of. And apparently the Tribe doesn’t like her.

    So go figure. Or better yet, don’t try.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  466. snag says:
    @snag

    … should be … not welcome on FB. – Sorry ,…

  467. Vojkan says:
    @Timmy75

    There is a “deep state” where there is a BIG state. In every country, regardless of its size. The state is a necessity. It is an instrument of the people without which there is no sovereignty and without sovereignty there is no freedom. However, to remain an instrument of the people, it has to remain transparent, the affairs of the state mustn’t be a secret for the people. The state mustn’t be permitted to grow to a size beyond which it ceases to be transparent. Then it ceases to be an instrument of the people and becomes and instrument of tyranny.

  468. @tomo

    Quite. Of course I was being ironic/sarcastic.

  469. @denk

    a-ha! Thanks for that wasn’t aware of that.

    Cheers!

  470. @snag

    Actually Philip Giraldi’s article didn’t “compare Jews to eat poison”. It said the Israel firsters’ tendentious writings ought to be labeled like rat poison.

  471. RudyM says:

    Ron, please don’t miss the Unz.com mention in this anti-Plame New Mexican political ad:

    The swastika eyes are my favorite part.

    • LOL: Usura, Ron Unz
    • Replies: @snag
  472. Usura says:
    @Anonymous

    Was this chap one of those vegan pests who stole all of his food from the mouths of starving rabbits and spent his weekends competing in triathlons? Is that the bit I’m missing?

    No, but he wasn’t obese either. Certainly the plausibility of death from CVD is what prompted intelligence agencies to develop heart-attack guns in the first place.

    From Wikipedia:

    He [Du Wei] was also involved in negotiations following a blocked take-over of Ukrainian defense company Motor Sich by a Chinese company.[7][8]

    As of 2017 Beijing Skyrizon Aviation had purchased a 41% holding in Motor Sich, but in September 2017 a Ukrainian court froze the holding for national security reasons. Beijing Skyrizon Aviation had agreed to invest $250 million in the Ukrainian plants, and to set up an assembly and servicing plant in Chongqing in southwest China.[5] When the authorities of the United States criticized Ukraine for selling engines from Motor Sich to China, Ukrainian politician Oleh Lyashko stated, “If the United States don’t want that us began to sell to the Chinese, let them buy our aircraft engines.”[6]

    An article about the take-over:
    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2151183/air-blocked-chinese-takeover-ukrainian-aerospace-firm-no-closer

    In other words, Du Wei was involved in multiple attempts by China to lure American frontier allies and proxy states away from Washington’s economic orbit, and was a key player in the expansion of the Belt and Road Initiative. Although the U.S. succeeded in blocking the buy, he wasn’t going to be forgiven for the failed Skyrizon deal, and it took serious balls from the CCP to send him to Israel afterwards to broker similar agreements.

    His death is extremely convenient from the perspective of U.S. foreign policy.

  473. Usura says:
    @Iris

    Scooter Libby is the name of the Bush-appointed Jewish political operative (and Wolfowitz minion) who was indicted and convicted by a federal grand jury of perjury, making false statements, and obstruction of justice, all relating to the leak of Plame’s identity. He was fully pardoned by Trump in 2018.

  474. snag says:
    @RudyM

    So much venom ,…

  475. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:
    @450.org

    Lots of “would” and “should”, the unmistakable sign of futile protest. Call me with some “did” and “done”.

  476. @Ron Unz

    I’m only half joking when I suggest that there has to be a chance that some members of the predatory arms of the legal profession in your country might see advantage in a class action against you for the mental strain you cause Facebook moderators. You are no doubt aware of Facebook’s settlement with Its aggrieved employees. I first learned of it here:
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/the-stress-of-cleaning-the-internet/12250076

    If you are not fully apprised of Facebook’s moderating problems this might throw some further light on the subject.

  477. Czarlazar says:
    @anon

    I was puzzled by that assertion as well. Not one Facebook employee has lost their job and the stock is making all time highs. Plus, most are working from home so their expenses are lower as well. The scamdemic has been a gift all around for Facebook and they’ll continue to benefit from it as will the politicians. A very successful partnership that obviously extends to Twitter, Google/YouTube and MSM in general.

  478. Anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @gsjackson

    And apparently the Tribe doesn’t like her.

    Plame is partly Jewish. I think she has two Jewish grandparents.

  479. Half-Jap says:
    @Ron Unz

    Or perhaps China still has ‘a raging pandemic’ but after some hard consideration decided that it was not worth shutting down over, that they already have effective treatments for those people that do get severely affected, and that there are cheap, substantiated and replicable means of improving one’s immune system so that even if one is infected there would be minimal or no effect from such virus.

    I wouldn’t want to assume a can opener (you know that economist joke?), but from a cold CBA perspective, this would be ideal. At least there are effective substances (such as VC, VD, and zinc–one can even find plenty on them on pubmed), but unfortunately I haven’t seen anything on China deploying them or educating the public, except using mega-dose VC as treatment.

    As for opening up, my wife is still stuck in Beijing as she would be quarantined for 2 weeks if she goes back to her home town up north, where my son is stuck with his grandparents, but she is free to move around fwiw.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  480. @Ron Unz

    You might want to consider all the information provided in the links that Whitney Webb provides in her recent articles. Her research connects the most dots by far.

  481. Lol says:

    Since social media exercises editorial control over the content on their networks, they should cease being exempt from civil liabilities for IP theft, slander and everything else going on their networks

  482. Arioch says:

    Alphabet’s YouTube reportedly just censored a host of Russian and chinese media and bloggers.

    Timing, timing….

  483. cranc says:

    When you have a highly-contagious disease with a 0.5%-1% death rate, and it spreads throughout your country, you end up with a lot of deaths.

    Ron,
    Now that even the CDC confirm what has been said innumerable times on these threads : that the mortality rate of the novel coronavirus is in the close range of influenza (IFR 0.26%), will you update your personal estimate of ‘0.5%-1% death rate’ ?
    If you do, will you make clear that many of those whom you derided as ‘fluhoaxers’ were merely trying to point this fact out from March, when a careful reading of the data suggested this same conclusion?

    • Replies: @davidgmillsatty
  484. @Iris

    ‘Of course, dear, how could the Iraqi government, the UN, the UNICEF, The Lancet, know about the Iraqi death toll from sanctions and Iraq War.

    Obviously, Tel Aviv and Colin Wright know better.’

    Suit yourself. Half a million Iraqi children died and the population growth curve didn’t even show a hiccup.

    My original point — if you can be bothered to look — is that this sort of dubious exaggeration only serves to discredit what can be in essence a perfectly sound argument.

    But knock yourself out. Keep preaching to the converted. I suppose it’s harmless enough.

  485. JWalters says:
    @Jimmy1969

    I agree, Facebook is obviously being used as a tool by Zionists. The same is true of Disqus, the company that manages reader comments on numerous websites. They definitely delete reader comments containing blacklisted links, including links to web pages that criticize Israel in highly effective ways. These pages often include a lot of verifiable facts, and clear explanations of history.

    YouTube does the same for videos that tell too much truth about Israel. Demonitized first, then gone. YouTube and Google (YouTube’s owner) both sabotaged searches for the one Democratic presidential candidate who focused on ending (Israel’s) “regime change wars” (Tulsi Gabbard).

    Spam lists used to be used to suppress naughty speech. Now they’re used to suppress what is clearly not naughty speech, and is clearly political speech.

    Suppressing the Unz Review is clearly suppressing political speech. Given our Constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech, suppressing political speech should require a clear and compelling reason why this is “unacceptable” political speech.

    If they give a reason there’s a good chance it’ll be “anti-Semitism”. They’ll dodge the facts being raised as usual, a strategic dishonesty. They’ll try to equate criticism of Israel’s actions with criticism of all Jews, which is false on both facts and logic.

    It seems to me The Unz Review would be in a very strong position in any adjudication process. Facebook needs an exceptional justification to suspend the Constitution. Unless they want to advertise themselves as biased, like a political church.

    I appreciate Ron Unz’s background as a scientist. I think it contributes a lot to this website’s focus on facts, i.e. data, in reporting and analysis. There’s a real committment to the traditional “let the facts fall where they may” approach to reporting. That’s the way it’s done in science. It’s the most direct way to the truth.

    How do the mainstream reporters and pundits, curious and intelligent people, who must know all this is going on, cover it with a straight face day after day? What carrots and sticks, bribery and blackmail, occasional murder? Maybe it’s not so hard to understand. Here’s a brief history of this “empire mob”, how it works, and a way to dismantle it: War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    • Thanks: Iris
  486. @Heres your insertion zzip squoosh

    I was actually pretty good in science. I had a knack for chemistry. I just didn’t want to be a lab rat. But all these articles I have cited here, especially the last one on pangolin corona virus, is pretty damn compelling that Covid is not man-made. It seems highly probable now the Covid is a recombination of bat corona virus and a pangolin corona virus; just like SARS 1 was a recombination of a bat corona virus and a covet corona virus, and MERS was a recombination of a bat corona virus and a camel corona virus.

  487. @cranc

    I think we have a long, long way to go yet before we know.

    1.This is obviously a disease that has local clusters where it is far worse than everywhere else.

    2.It also seems to be a disease where people might lose their antibodies before these people can be counted as having contracted the disease.

    3. Many of the dead were never tested. It is not common to do autopsies on people who die in nursing homes or at home or in hospice. So the true death count will never be known.

    All we are ever going to get is a debatable estimate of what the CFR is. Both sides will have plenty of evidence to argue over.

  488. Anonymous[263] • Disclaimer says:
    @Half-Jap

    Or perhaps China still has ‘a raging pandemic’ but after some hard consideration decided that it was not worth shutting down over, that they already have effective treatments for those people that do get severely affected,

    Why is Ron so blind to this possibility? China has a much tighter control over discordant information and government criticism, so it would be very easy for them to unperson Corona Chan and blame all her doings on influenza or the ubiquitous preexisting comorbidities.

    I’d post the same in the anatoly karlin article but he blocks all anons, along with everyone else he disagrees with (he grew up in the USSR? Figures.)

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
  489. @Anonymous

    I only block people who spam, dox or direct personal insults at me. As for anons, what’s so difficult about inventing a name and fake email?

    It would be pretty strange if China had an effective treatment for Corona massively surpassing anywhere else and was treating millions of people with it but it somehow remained unnoticed.

  490. Alden says:
    @AnonFromTN

    OJ’s not poor. One income stream is his pension from his football team, $29,000 a month $360,000 a year and not touchable by liability b cause it’s a judgement proof pension. It’s not touchable by bill collectors such as unpaid attorneys either because it’s a pension. His pension isn’t taxed either.

    As soon as he and his children moved to Florida he invested in real estate putting all properties in his children’s name. His daughter is the frontman for whoever runs the real estate business.

    Fred Goldman father of victim Ron hasn’t been able to collect a dime of his wrongful death award because

    1 OJ’s pensions is judgement proof as it’s called.
    2 His other assets are in his children’s name.

    He must have paid his attorneys as the murder and other trials were going on. He could well afford those fees.

  491. Alden says:
    @Iris

    Plame was outed to the Russians by traitor CIA man Aldrich Ames before Scooter Libby ever heard of her. When the CIA learned the KGB knew who she really was, she was immediately pulled out of Belgium and forever assigned to safe and sound desk work in the CIA headquarters

    SOP for agents who’ve been outed. Her husband was retired That’s why she suggested him to check out the yellow cake uranium accusation

  492. Derer says:
    @Anon

    The explanation is simple Zuckerberg dance to the Jewish lobby anti-American tune and Ron Unz does not.

  493. @Kratoklastes

    Facebook has gotten wise to this tactic. I created
        tinyurl.com/AmericanPravda
    pointing to
        https://www.unz.com/topic/american-pravda/
    and placed it at the end of a Facebook post. Within about a couple of seconds I got the message:

    Your post couldn’t be shared, because this link goes against our Community Standards.

    When I tried it again in a different post I got that message immediately.

    American Pravda indeed.

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  494. @Mark Hunter

    Created in 2006, I was shown this in 2010.

    Note the low no. of views – regularly taken down. YT is owned by Google remember.

    FB is a CIA-DARPA (if you know what Darpa is) intel gathering corporation, Zuck being merely the ‘front man’.

    Check out the names, Dr Anita Jones, for example.

    The Truth about Facebook

  495. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    My take on the Coronavirus “thing” and conspiracy theory reactions to this “thing” is pretty much the same as my reaction to the 9/11/01 Islamic terrorist slaughter of our people in our country. Yes – various groups and forces that I really do not like used these real events for their bad purposes and the wildly exaggerated real events in both cases. The Neo Conservative Zionists used the real 9/11/01 terrorist slaughter of our people in our our country to justify another Neo Conservative Zionists US war/intervention against secular Arabs in Iraq. Saddam Hussein, the Battiest secular Arabs in Iraq and Syria had nothing NADA to do with the 9/11/01 terrorist slaughter planned and carried out by Saudi/Pakistani Sunni Islamists (Osama Bin Ladin, Mohamed Ata).

    [MORE]

    If the Neo Conservative/Zionists were in total power in the USA in the 1940s, after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor we would have….

    Invaded Iraq!

    WTF?!

    With the Coronavirus “thing” it’s pretty much the same – the Powers that Be which I hate spun the CR to drastically curtail the freedoms of regular Americans, tanked our economy = put family businesses out of busses – cooped up lots and lots of lower Class Blacks and now they are going bat sh** crazy, rioting, looting, killing everybody.

    The Coronavirus was/is real – but the response should have been should be a sensible populist nationalist response:

    Don’t let CR invected people from Communist China flood in to our country – we should keep out this alien people the same as Japan and Israel did/do.

    My response to the 9/11/01 real attack is the same:

    Keep out all Islamic extremists – anybody that even looks, smells like Muhamed Ata or Osama Bin Ladin doesn’t get to go to flight school in Florida.

    This should be obvious to any sane, sensible White, Black or non Communist Chinese Asian American.

    I’m sure Ron Unz will make some spin that this Islamic extremist immigration is really good for America as they supposedly have better work ethic and lower rates of crime than White Americans, plus it’s all our fault for supposedly backing Israel or the Palestinians – which is what the Saudi Arabia Sunni Islamist royals do anyway.

    Life in the United States with crime, immigration, politics is both:

    Totally Insane Crazy and….

    Easy to understand once you know the main actors and look at things from a racial/cultural perspective.

    JR
    Left Behind in Chicago

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