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  1. Mr Ron Unz, you should publish more on WWII revisionism. Harry Elmer Barnes wrote a great pamphlet Blasting the Historical Blackout as a perfect book review of AJP Taylor’s book Origins of WWII. It’s arguably the most intense book review (of both Taylor and David Hoggans bpoks) and overall perspective if WWII I’ve read. (Interestingly, Murray Rothbard around the same time wrote a similar review of Taylor, but that’s an easy find already at Mises Institute)

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  2. What happened to open thread #1. On going conversation?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  3. bjondo says:

    Ft Det 19 (or is it 18 or<) is apparently a real virus.
    Its virulence seems to be a great deal hyped.

    Why are so many lies and deceptions given by officials and reporters?

    If the severity is real, why are fabricated/inflated numbers needed?

    It's best to assume every official every reporter is a Frum, Bolton type of snake.

    5 dancing shlomos

  4. Mehen says:

    Apparently I have been the impetus for this new Open Thread. I was not aware of the previous Open Thread. My apologies.

    In the “The Government Employee Who May Have Saved a Million American Lives” post, I took issue with Ron’s seemingly heavy-handed approach to those who question the MSM narrative. I felt that most of the skeptics –myself in particular — were not deserving of the epithets “lunatics” and “fanatics” Ron bandied about. So I asked him to identify who exactly were the lunatics and fanatics.

    I made reference to previous posts of mine that I felt were within the realm of reason, and which made what I thought were gentle counters to the hysteria we see all about us.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-government-employee-who-may-have-saved-a-million-american-lives/#comment-3806473

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-government-employee-who-may-have-saved-a-million-american-lives/#comment-3825303

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-government-employee-who-may-have-saved-a-million-american-lives/#comment-3825510

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-government-employee-who-may-have-saved-a-million-american-lives/#comment-3829345

    And lastly, the post in question:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/the-government-employee-who-may-have-saved-a-million-american-lives/#comment-3829564

    Ron graciously granted my request by opening this thread, and for that I am grateful.

    However, he didn’t answer any other of my good-faith questions. Instead, he ignored them and referred to ME and my “crazy nonsense”, continued to refer to skeptics as “Hoaxers” (an issue I addressed in one of my previous comments), and suggested that the skeptics all believe there is no new pathogen going around.

    In short, it was highly dismissive and raised my ire even higher than it was. Consequently…

    When did UR become a mouthpiece for the MSM?

    Are the suspicions that so-called “Righteous Jews” like Ron are merely pressure-release valves for the woke goyim in order to ennervate their nascent rebellion……………..correct?

    Why have both HalfSigma/Lion of the Blogosphere and Ron Unz bought into the MSM narrative? Do they know something we don’t? Or might this simply be another instance of that famed Jewish neuroticism?

    My first comment to this website a couple weeks ago referenced @James Scott. He had the notion that the change in tenor at UR reflected the fact that this whole coronavirus hysteria was meant to serve as a cover for the Fed and central banks’ malfeasance. As he pointed out, Jewish pogroms have historically followed nations devastated by financial shenanigans and usury. Might it be possible certain actors recognize what is happening and have decided to close ranks in order to protect their co-ethnics?

    In a post I made at Steve Sailer’s, I provided the following video by a professional mathematician in the UK:

    He claims to have the “smoking gun” regarding government “experts” — using their own data.

    Someone replied that his analysis was questionable. He released another video explaining in layman’s terms his analysis. Search for it yourself if you are interested. I suppose he might be a nutter.

    Just today, he finally stopped with the myopic mathematical analysis of minutia and started addressing the question of “why” and “who”.

    Certainly something to consider:

  5. Paul C. says:

    My reply to post # 1181 of article: The Government Employee Who May Have Saved a Million American Lives

    Ron,

    Using the same source provided under Steve Sailer’s graph, the CDC NCHS, table 4 shows the total deaths from Covid in the US from 2/1/20 – 4/4/20 to be: 4,984.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm#ref4

    For the SAME time period: 2/1/20- 4/4/20
    Death from the Pneumonia in the US: 36,423 (Covid deaths are only 14% of pneumonia deaths)
    Total deaths in the US (all causes): 511,424 (Covid deaths are less than 1% of ALL deaths)
    Covid deaths in NYC: 1,956

    Can you really not understand our skepticism of the government & media fear campaign?
    The world has been shut down, our rights trampled, and many will be driven to poverty and despair.

    You’re suggesting the “soon to be released” data for this week in NYC may show up to 1,500 Covid deaths per day, according to the NY Times. For many, this is not a credible source.

    If the government really cared about our health, they be advising the American public to keep their immune system strong. You do this by getting enough sleep, eating well, exercising, getting plenty of sunlight, taking vitamins and by not living in fear. Fear creates cortisol which along with stress suppress the immune system.

    But guess what, all those things are free or very low cost. That’s not in the interest of those driving the fear campaign, they want the trillions that will come from vaccinations.

    • Replies: @Mehen
  6. Hail says: • Website

    Re: Ongoing Corona Panic

    For those who need a detox on the madness, please watch this:

    “I’m not paid by the government, so I am entitled to actually do science.”
    — Knut Wittkowski (30 years of recognized expertise in epidemiology; for almost twenty years he was the Head of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design, Center for Clinical & Translational Science at Rockefeller University in New York; PhD, Computer Science, Univ. of Stuttgart, 1985; PhD, Medical Biometry, Univ. of Tübingen, 1993)

    _________

    The video is being actively suppressed by Big Tech, and in that sense fits in the spirit of the Unz Review (per its mission statement).

    Dr. Knut Wittkowski, who is an anti-CoronaPanic hardliner, also happens to be far more credentialed and experienced in the relevant fields than the pro-CoronaPanic censors in Big Tech land, the people behind the curtain who have de-listed and banned the video. (Deleting it entirely would probably yield more bad press than just de-listing it so no one can find it.)

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/german-scientists-virus-is-spread-less-by-work-than-by-fun/#comment-3828994

    [MORE]

    Google is actively suppressing the Wittkowski interview in its search results. The video was posted seven days ago. As I have been trying to promote the video, I began to notice the suppression. It began happening by about 5 days ago. I could no longer find it: Even searches for his name no longer get the video (they did in its first two days up, the top result), much less for some kind of generic Coronavirus-related search. A result doesn’t shoot up to number one and then totally disappear the next day. It’s hard to find the video without the direct link, and CoronaNeutrals are unable to find it. Facebook is also said to have banned it from being posted, according to people who have posted it there.

    (By the third week of March, I noticed that any searches for alternate views and ‘Corona Skeptic’-type material, or anti-CoronaPanic material, were thin on Google [suppressed as Fake News, I guess], but thick at DuckDuckGo. Off-Guardian, a stalwart anti-CoronaPanic website to be commended, had its posts/articles delisted, knocked way down, whereas they were easy to find on DuckDuckGo.)

    Entirely by word of mouth, the Knut Wittkowski interview has gotten many hundreds of thousands of views.

    Here was Intelligent Dasein, recently, on the need to fight against the pro-CoronaPanic info-monopoly:

    It’s time to start pushing back, although Facebook and Twitter will probably shut down any attempt to organize a resistance via social media, thus plunging the very people who most need to resist even further into suicidal isolation. The rest of us have to be a voice for them. We have to fight back on every blog and comment box we can access, even if it means mounting some kind of samizdat campaign to get the truth out. There are some very cynical power plays going on, especially with the media and the Democratic Party. Bill Gates is out there like Lord Farquaad talking about the need to end mass gatherings permanently. This is ridiculous.

    The suppression of the Wittkowski interview is an example of exactly what he means. When I started noticing this, by the way, I saw that some obscure blog “debunking” Wittkowski was a new top result and his interview itself nowhere to be found.

    One more thing:
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    .
    .

    Long Live Knut Wittkowski!

    • Thanks: Mehen
    • Replies: @Emslander
  7. Mehen says:
    @Paul C.

    “But guess what, all those things are free or very low cost. That’s not in the interest of those driving the fear campaign, they want the trillions that will come from vaccinations.”

    …as well as exotic pharmaceuticals like Remdesivir.

    It has been said that the Hydroxychloriquine/Azithromycin/Zinc combo costs something like $10 per 5 day course.

    Remdesivir and other exotic anti-virals are like $1000 per 5 day course.

    Guess which one will receive the most attention?

    (P.S. can someone tell me how to “blockquote” other commenters? I thought I was tech-savvy but I seem to be having trouble with that)

  8. We need to be allowed more than three AGREEs per day, or week, or whatever it is. As it is too much space is wasted with people having to post just to say they agree, or name-call, or whatever.

  9. Mehen says:

    When you see a big injustice
    Will you disobey the law?
    Will you fight for any army
    And turn your fingernails to claws?

    Try a little vengeance
    Try because
    Contemplation won’t ever
    Turn your fingernails to claws

    Fingernails to claws

    I know you see a peaceful vision
    And though you understand
    That cause
    When the enemy won’t listen
    Turn your fingernails to claws

    I’ve been on the wrong side
    I’ve been Bad
    I’ve been careful finding ways out
    Every chance I had

    Fingernails to claws

    Act with all your passion
    Find the beauty in a cause
    Find the strength and volition
    To turn your fingernails to claws

    When rational is hopeless
    And constructive thought is lost
    Empathy is pointless
    Turn your fingernails to claws

    Fingernails to claws

  10. geokat62 says:
    @Mehen

    (P.S. can someone tell me how to “blockquote” other commenters? I thought I was tech-savvy but I seem to be having trouble with that)

    Simply highlight the text and click on the blockquote button above the edit box.

  11. Hail says: • Website

    Thoughts on the politics of the CoronaPanic, of general relevance to ongoing discussions here in March and April and no doubt May at the least. Partly inspired by discussions here at the Unz Review, including the position taken by Unz-Review-appearing author Hunter Wallace:

    Against the Corona Panic, Pt. II: “Honor the Truth, be Steadfast, Defend the Nation” — Say ‘No’ to jockeying for political advantage on the coattails of Corona Hysteria.

    (Also see: Against the Corona Panic, Pt. 1.)

    (Also, Thoughts, written March 26, on the then-recent CoronaPanic Big Mistake, the crossing of the Corona Rubicon into mass Corona-Shutdowns, destructive paralysis, economic ruin, and media-directed CoronaParanoia.)

  12. Hail says: • Website

    Happy Easter, Christian friends in Unz Review world.

    • Thanks: Rosie
  13. Continued from Open Thread #1:

    @Colin Wright

    Not everyone is intellectually or emotionally fitted to rise to a position where he can exploit his fellow man. Some of us don’t even feel that because we could, therefore we should.

    Superior intelligence isn’t the cause of their success. Let’s consider something: the foundation upon which they originally developed cultural cohesion and strength in solidarity is a religious one that, in our contemporary secular milieu, is routinely decried as moronic or one to which only the feeble-minded could possible adhere.

    However, it is their application of originally religious principles that has allowed them to ascend to positions of power. Even those who appear entirely secular on the surface are aware of the strength that is acquired by honoring particular maxims of conduct that yield concrete results. Practical appreciation of the effects of group solidarity plays a significant role.

    Witness what the Amish can accomplish when working in unison: raising a barn in a day. This takes a modicum of intelligence, if even that much. The analogy works in any other field of interest, be it politics, commerce, or media. This is why laws so anathema to the very foundation of American constitutional law have been ratified. Where Realist sees cleverness, there is, in truth, a terrible burden of collective pressure brought to bear upon any “representative” who doesn’t support such initiatives.

    It isn’t as if we haven’t had our Paul Findleys, William Fulbrights, Pete McCloskeys, Cynthia McKinneys, and the like. The list is much longer, but we see what happens to dissident politicians.

    This is why I’ve previously suggested an alternative approach, an effort to take a page from the Satmar of Kiryas Joel insofar as the establishment and control of rural townships is concerned. Religiously-predicated non-profit organizations can serve as effective tools by which to acquire and retain such control, and if the effort to do so were amplified exponentially — throughout the American landscape — otherwise disparate seeming rural polities could form a large constituency that would wield an influence to rival that of the Lobby.

    Barring this, it’s a matter of patiently waiting for the demographic inevitability that heralds the demise of zionist ascendancy as we know it.

  14. @AnonStarter

    Speaking of feeble-minded, …

    Edit: “… could possible possibly adhere.”

  15. @AnonStarter

    ‘…Religiously-predicated non-profit organizations can serve as effective tools by which to acquire and retain such control, and if the effort to do so were amplified exponentially — throughout the American landscape — otherwise disparate seeming rural polities could form a large constituency that would wield an influence to rival that of the Lobby…’

    But then, who would you want to win?

    One could wind up in a situation like many Spanish Leftists on the Loyalist side in the last year or so of the Spanish Civil War; the Republican government had become so awful that it offered little in the way of any clear advantage over the Nationalists. There was simply no longer any reason to fight; both sides had become equally unattractive.

    I think it would be more than sufficient to expose the Lobby — and we can all work to do that. Not by hyperbole, but by pointing out clear facts, by pointing to the indisputable crimes, by insisting on those truths that are certain. You may believe Israel assassinated Kennedy or whatever; that’s nice, but you’ll accomplish more by telling people about the attack on the Liberty.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
    , @Wizard of Oz
  16. @AnonStarter

    ‘… Superior intelligence isn’t the cause of their success…’

    It is — partly. I think there are many components to the success of Jews in America — and higher average intelligence is indeed one of those components.

    It’s a complex equation, and for a variety of reasons, Jews in America should rise to more positions of wealth and influence than their numbers in the population would suggest.

    There’s nothing wrong with that. I no more want a talented Jew kept from being my cardiologist than I want to contend with some black idiot who’s been boosted into that position on account of his skin color.

    The problems come from the facts that (1) Jews do tend to artificially leverage what would be their legitimate advantages, (2) to some extent there’s been a process of positive reinforcement where Jews have reshaped America to suit their natural strengths — see the rise of the legal system, among other developments — and (3) and most perniciously, they have harnessed the entire United States and much of the West besides to the service of their evil little mini-Nazi state in the Middle East.

    Now, I am genuinely unsure what precisely we should wind up doing about it all — but I am sure that just insistently, carefully pointing out the truth is a pretty good way to start.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  17. (Moved from Thread #1. Response to ‘Realist.’)

    ‘… But if you were smart enough you wouldn’t fall victim to it…’

    And those that aren’t smart enough are Jews’ just prey?

    That is your position. Jews prey on gentiles because they’re smarter, and smart gentiles should join them in the feeding frenzy. Tikun Olam, as Aaron would say.

    Boy, those poor dumb sons of bitches getting their legs blown off in Iraq. That’s what they get for letting themselves be exploited by the smart Jews.

    They’re stupid. They deserve it.

    • Agree: AnonStarter, Mehen
  18. @Colin Wright

    But then, who would you want to win?

    It doesn’t have to be zero-sum. I’m more interested in the application of a type of game theory, which allows for disparate polities to retain autonomous government while they still function as one hand for the purpose of meeting commonly beneficial objectives. Federalism in its purest form.

    I think it would be more than sufficient to expose the Lobby — and we can all work to do that. Not by hyperbole, but by pointing out clear facts, by pointing to the indisputable crimes, by insisting on those truths that are certain. You may believe Israel assassinated Kennedy or whatever; that’s nice, but you’ll accomplish more by telling people about the attack on the Liberty.

    This definitely has its role and I can certainly see the efficacy of this approach.

    But, as a baseline principle, essentially harmless differences of perspective in how to approach the matter should not become a cause for dissolution and despair among us. That’s precisely the kind of disposition upon which our common nemesis labors to capitalize.

  19. @Colin Wright

    It is — partly. I think there are many components to the success of Jews in America — and higher average intelligence is indeed one of those components.

    That’s a fair assessment. I have no problem acknowledging that Jews have been bred for intelligence for more generations than we can enumerate; but again, such breeding arises from an amalgam of essentially religious imperatives.

    The problems come from the facts that (1) Jews do tend to artificially leverage what would be their legitimate advantages, (2) to some extent there’s been a process of positive reinforcement where Jews have reshaped America to suit their natural strengths — see the rise of the legal system, among other developments — and (3) and most perniciously, they have harnessed the entire United States and much of the West besides to the service of their evil little mini-Nazi state in the Middle East.

    All valid points.

    Now, I am genuinely unsure what precisely we should wind up doing about it all — but I am sure that just insistently, carefully pointing out the truth is a pretty good way to start.

    Where can we begin but with knowledge?

    As I said to “Realist,” informing the body politic is a gradual process. People who complain here by asking “What are we going to do about it?” seem to be oblivious to the fact that something is being done by the very endeavor of bringing attention to the issue. That’s the primary value of Unz Review, one which the “Realist”s among us either blithely ignore or deliberately denigrate.

    Now, as a student of history, I’m sure you’ll find plenty of accounts that demonstrate the power of group solidarity in attaining what appeared to be impossibly attainable goals. It’s unquestionable that Jews apply this knowledge to their advantage, such that even the lesser intelligent among them are accommodated merely by remaining a faithful member of the congregation. We have similar mechanisms in Islam — verses, ahaddith, and biographical accounts extolling the virtues of brotherhood and unity. They’re only effective when applied, though, and here we see one of the greatest vulnerabilities in the contemporary west: a penchant for individualism that eschews such solidarity as a threat to one’s way of life.

    I don’t see how any significantly enduring headway can be made against the Lobby’s relentless warfare without some measure of group cohesion in providing a superior alternative to what they offer. Let the superior intellects among us lay the foundation; they’ll still need others to build upon it.

  20. @AnonStarter

    ‘…We have similar mechanisms in Islam — verses, ahaddith, and biographical accounts extolling the virtues of brotherhood and unity. They’re only effective when applied, though, and here we see one of the greatest vulnerabilities in the contemporary west: a penchant for individualism that eschews such solidarity as a threat to one’s way of life…’

    I wonder how much of that ‘penchant for individualism’ is a product of Jewish propaganda in the first place. After all, Americans used to be mad for churches, militia units, lodges of every description, American Legion Halls, Bible Study Groups, Volunteer Fire Departments, Rod and Gun Clubs, sewing circles…

    I’m a child of my era; I don’t want to hang out at the Rod and Gun Club. But how did we get here?

    It’d be interesting to catalogue what institutions for social solidarity existed among Christian whites in America around, say, 1900, and review the attitude of Jews towards them.

    It starts to become a matter of perspective. If Jews ridicule and attack the Loyal Order of Penguins, are they reasonably resenting an institution that leads to their social and economic exclusion — or diabolically seeking to undermine the unity of white Christendom? Both?

    Does it matter what they think they’re doing?

    • Replies: @Mehen
    , @AnonStarter
  21. @AnonStarter

    ‘… I don’t see how any significantly enduring headway can be made against the Lobby’s relentless warfare without some measure of group cohesion in providing a superior alternative to what they offer. Let the superior intellects among us lay the foundation; they’ll still need others to build upon it.’

    I’m more optimistic. I think that just getting enough people to see what Israel is will suffice to destroy it; I’m fond of saying one good Sixty Minutes segment would spell the end for Israel.

    It can never survive in the light. All we need to do is expose it.

  22. bjondo says:

    A good start against this New World Order of barbarism

    is Gibson’s, The Passion of the Christ.

    Can be found on you tube – maybe.

    5 dancing shlomos

  23. Mehen says:
    @Colin Wright

    I wonder how much of that ‘penchant for individualism’ is a product of Jewish propaganda in the first place.

    Nailed it.

  24. A123 says:

    From XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2289/

    Mathematical Models Have Problems

    Model #4 is especially bad for a time series.

    PEACE 😷
    _______

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  25. @Colin Wright

    I wonder how much of that ‘penchant for individualism’ is a product of Jewish propaganda in the first place.

    Well, it’s safe to say that if any variety of social solidarity should threaten to subsume the primary objectives of zionism, it has to be met as a hostile force. To be fair, we could say the same for any religious or political organization as well — that it reacts to existential threats accordingly — though I maintain that zionism aspires to reach where traditional Judaism, Christianity, and Islam do not. Evidence of this is readily available in current American lawfare and European legislation criminalizing historical revisionism. Christians and Muslims who support such measures are exceptions to the general rule while zionists have proven to be at the forefront of these initiatives.

    And the relentless assault on traditional Christian sensibilities in the mainstream media is surely a product of zionist animus, an ongoing effort to demoralize and weaken faithful Christians.

    Does it matter what they think they’re doing?

    Sure, because this can be compared against the actual result of their stated intention and analyzed accordingly; but it’s likely to matter only to us. It won’t matter to them if the action is one to which they’re religiously committed, damn the consequences.

  26. Mehen says:

    If nothing else, this current “crisis” has been instructive in revealing and unmasking the crypto-authoritarians among us.

    My mind is currently reeling due to the fact that what I thought were established political/ideological categories are now showing new and unprecedented fault-lines that may harken something…unique…?

  27. Mehen says:

    It is becoming clearer day by day that the current medical crisis constitutes a multifactorial phenomenon of such complexity that only an appreciation of a varied number of inputs can begin to account for it.

    This notion is light-years away from the egg-heads who simplistically berated us over our supposed lack of understanding of “exponential growth”.

    Such a focus on “exponential growth” to the exclusion of all other concerns is probably an indicator of autism.

  28. ‘… And the relentless assault on traditional Christian sensibilities in the mainstream media is surely a product of zionist animus…’

    Really? Were Jews who were intensely and viscerally hostile to apparently every aspect of the established gentile order here really Zionists?

    Emma Goldman, for example? All those revolutionary Jews and Jewesses who came boiling out of Eastern Europe…you can sing their praises, or damn them — but it seems a bit far-fetched to call them ‘Zionists.’

    For better or worse, I’m skeptical that even absent Israel that the traditional Jewish stance vis-a-vis American white gentile culture would be radically different. Wouldn’t they still have promoted Black Power, the sexual revolution, come-one-come-all immigration, sexual deviance, abstract expressionism, etc, etc?

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
    , @AnonStarter
  29. ‘Coronavirus: US death toll overtakes Italy as world’s highest’

    I don’t think we’ve won the Gold fairly here. It’s only because China’s obviously lying and India, Nigeria, et al are too fucked-up to be able to count accurately in the first place.

    Still, it’s not bad. Let’s give a shout-out to our blacks and their incredibly bad health habits for this win. Also, our Hasidic Jews deserve a nod. New York City Number One!

  30. ‘… And the relentless assault on traditional Christian sensibilities in the mainstream media is surely a product of zionist animus…’

    The Jews were secretly behind the NOI. Farrakhan is a closet Zionist. Same with all the Christian pioneers that stood for individualism. The Donner Party were Jewish, right down to the cannibalism. Had to be Jewish or a Jewish plot. The cowboys that settled the West all Jews. Americans had exposed guns on their hips as a mark of rugged individuality until the start of the 20th century. All those rugged pioneers standing for individualism were closet Zionist. Frank Loyd Wright….Lewis Armstrong…. etc and the whole of American Jazz all Jewish.: Jewish penchant for individualism.You gotta be completely brain dead to write stuff like that. More then brain dead, stupid and brain dead.

    • Replies: @Mehen
  31. Anonymous[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123

    It’s not a graphing error. You just don’t understand exponential functions!!!

  32. @Colin Wright

    it seems a bit far-fetched to call them ‘Zionists.’

    I understand the term as it’s commonly used.

    What began with Herzl et al is only one relatively recent permutation of Jewish supremacism. Originally, zionism was the religion of the renegade branch of Judaism born during the reign of Solomon — the one Jesus is reported to have decried when castigating the Scribes and Pharisim.

    No, the word isn’t typically used as such, but that’s my understanding of it based upon my study of Scripture, where you’ll find the basic foundation upon which most of it is premised. What most call “zionism” is just a more modern outgrowth of an ancient ideology.

  33. bjondo says:

    I’m mistaken.
    I thought cannibals took time
    off to hide from the Demon of Death.

    5 dancing shlomos

  34. Response to Art’s comment #787 in Open Thread #1. (Cell difficulty with the long thread.)

    The sole source of Western achievement is universal Christian idealism.

    Glory to Jesus Christ on the morning of His victory over sin and death—Christ is risen!

    Art’s statement above is profound and holds much promise for the rejuvenation of Western society. Seems to me a vital culture proceeds from the Spirit of Christ animating life and knowledge under the aegis of the Church. Science, literature, and history informed by the organic nous of Apostolic tradition spur life, growth, and health. The peace of Christ sustains the flowering of society.

    The alternatives are evanescent and disappear like autumn leaves in the wind.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Art
  35. Art says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Repost from Open Thread #1

    It is totally and unquestionably true that high IQ whites in America have abandoned their Western Christian heritage. Western Christian culture gradually carried the hi-IQ whites to the pinnacle of human achievement. In the last 60 years the hi-IQ whites have succumbed to a backwards inferior dark Jew culture of manipulation and intimidation. The hi-IQ whites have been convinced through dishonesty and stealth, to turn on their middle class. (The hi-IQ Jews are superior at dishonesty.)

    Historically Western Christianity has achieved a gradual improvement of the human condition – but not a “paradise on Earth.” The Jews have manipulated Western culture’s failures – by condemning them. Through intellectual sloth and Jew cultural intimidation, the elite hi-IQ whites have bought into the Jew attacks. The result is corrosive Jew identity politics. Gradual Christian idealistic improvement, has lost out to a cacophony of negative “isms” the main one being “racism.”

    As Jew greed dominates our economy, the wealth of the middle class drops, and the life of the elite hi-IQ white improves. Abandoning Christian idealism to identity politics, has been beneficial to the hi-IQ white.

    The sole source of Western achievement is universal Christian idealism. Anyone of all stripes, can be an idealist – that is the path to peace among men.

  36. Mehen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The Jews were secretly behind the NOI. Farrakhan is a closet Zionist. Same with all the Christian pioneers that stood for individualism. The Donner Party were Jewish, right down to the cannibalism. Had to be Jewish or a Jewish plot. The cowboys that settled the West all Jews. Americans had exposed guns on their hips as a mark of rugged individuality until the start of the 20th century. All those rugged pioneers standing for individualism were closet Zionist. Frank Loyd Wright….Lewis Armstrong…. etc and the whole of American Jazz all Jewish.: Jewish penchant for individualism.You gotta be completely brain dead to write stuff like that. More then brain dead, stupid and brain dead.

    I’m guessing you don’t appreciate the difference between the “rugged individualism” of the Wild West which was based on strength, manliness, and codes of honor (no matter how spurious), versus the narcissistic solipsism, egoism, vanity and depravity of the “individualism” bequeathed upon us by the usual suspects starting sometime in the 60s (though there are those who would place the date earlier).

    That’s probably because you’re one of them, and true to form, incapable of any critical self-reflection.

    • Agree: Charon
  37. @Mehen

    Oh fuck off you loser, you probably wouldn’t know rugged individualism if it smacked you the upside of your head. Only cowards call people they have never met names. Tom Wolf said American innovators are part cowboy (cowgirl) and part scientist. I strive to go beyond name calling to innovate creative solutions to problems. Narcism knows no particular religion, gender or race. Cowards are not so universal they belong to one special group. Losers!!!
    My post was to point out the absurdity of labeling Jews and their values as deviant and destructive or in the words of another post relentless assault on traditional Christian sensibilities . My post was a simple and clear refutation of that with clear examples.

    • Troll: Charon
  38. @Mehen

    ‘… That’s probably because you’re one of them, and true to form, incapable of any critical self-reflection.’

    Well…I’m always reluctant to blame Fran on Jews in general.

    It seems a little unfair.

  39. Mehen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Oh fuck off you loser, you probably wouldn’t know rugged individualism if it smacked you the upside of your head. Only cowards call people they have never met names.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe I called anyone “names”

    Narcism knows no particular religion, gender or race.

    That is undoubtedly true. But it is equally true that the “viral load” of narcissism is not equally distrubuted across humans…

    My post was to point out the absurdity of labeling Jews and their values as deviant and destructive or in the words of another post relentless assault on traditional Christian sensibilities . My post was a simple and clear refutation of that with clear examples.

    Yadda yadda yadda

  40. @Mehen

    You are an ugly mother fucker. with the “viral load”. People who talk like that are usually sickly ugly, sweating and slobbering. Viral load in your pants MF.

  41. @Mehen

    ‘Oh fuck off you loser…Only cowards call people they have never met names…’

    That’s definitely a Fran classic.

    • LOL: Mehen
  42. Aardvark says:
    @Mehen

    Just this morning there was some expert “doctor” opining that there is not enough evidence to support the use of hydroxychloriquine. She went on to say that if it were to be used it should be used in the hospital rather than prescribed for outpatient use. I wondered out loud if that had anything to do with being able to charge $1000 for it in the hospital versus just an office visit (even if virtual) for an outpatient prescription.

  43. Check out open thread #1. It’s become entirely Fran and Aaron posting to each other.

    This strikes me as an admirable compromise. A win-win, even.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
    , @Talha
  44. Usura [AKA "Macht"] says:

    Dear Mr. Unz, after lurking your site for about five years, in the last few days I began commenting under the handle “Macht”, but just discovered that another commenter last active March 29 2007 had also used this handle. I have no relation whatsoever to this commenter and thought I would notify you so this can be cleared up if you feel it’s important. I will use the handle “Usura” henceforth. I am making this post under “Macht” so that if no other action is taken there will at least be a record under that handle’s comment history of what happened. I hope you see this, I was not sure if there was a better way to get in touch. Thank you.

  45. @Colin Wright

    I was wondering why the cumbersome post count over there was still increasing after this thread opened and was just about to go there when I saw your post.

    I cannot thank you enough for your timely admonition.

  46. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Why sir, are you suggesting that – gasp – thread #1 has become occupied territory…by Zionists??!!

    Sorry, had to say it – going silent again.

    Peace.

  47. ‘Why sir, are you suggesting that – gasp – thread #1 has become occupied territory…by Zionists??!!’

    I think we can compromise and cede that to them. Swap it to them for Jaffa or something.

    • Replies: @Talha
  48. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    One more comment, since there may be some real benefit from it. I bought a large package of dates for my family for breaking fast for the duration of Ramadan. The dates were from the West Bank, and I specifically chose them to support the growers in Palestine. Anybody likewise interested can find their local Arabic food supply store and they should have plenty of dates in stock since it is the season. The brand that I know of that sources dates from Palestine, Jericho specifically, is Ziyad Brothers and it is owned by a Palestinian family out of Chicago.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  49. @Mehen

    tell me how to “blockquote” other commenters

    Most html renders in the comment box.
    <blockquote>
    comment
    </blockquote>

  50. @Colin Wright

    For better or worse, I’m skeptical that even absent Israel that the traditional Jewish stance vis-a-vis American white gentile culture would be radically different.

    Israel is the Jewish diaspora, be it in Palestine or elsewhere. This has been the traditional understanding of the term for far longer than it is known today.

    The promotion of liberalism, however, is more an aspect of militant secularism that arises out of the diaspora in rejection of religion, including traditional Judaism. There have been some licentious currents arising out of orthodoxy, but they don’t define the norm.

    I make an effort to distinguish between Judaism and zionism, the latter of which represents the renegade faction of Israel which began long before the first aliyah to Palestine in the late 1800s, long before Jesus ‘alaihis-salaam was even born. It may be that some consider the two inseparable, though it should be noted that, except by that renegade faction, it was long regarded a sacrilege to force God’s Hand in bringing about conditions for the coming of the Moshiach.

    Yes, Judaism does contain ground in which zionism has taken root. This is the inevitable consequence of ancient Pharisaic corruption about which the bulk of Jewry remains blissfully ignorant.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  51. A123 says:

    WHY ARE THERE EMPTY SHELVES ?

    There is a great deal of unnecessary concern over the lack of goods on supermarket shelves.

    This series of articles provides a good explanation of the complex supply chain that delivers packaged goods to stores and how the WUHAN-19 response has created problems for the system.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/04/14/phase-five-supply-chain-with-a-message-from-a-dairy-farmer/

    Most Americans were not aware food consumption in the U.S. was a 60/40 proposition. Approximately 60% of all food was consumed “outside the home” (or food away from home), and 40% of all food consumed was food “inside the home” (grocery shoppers). …

    The ‘food away from home‘ sector has its own supply chain. Very few restaurants and venues (cited above) purchase food products from retail grocery outlets. As a result of the coronavirus mitigation effort the ‘food away from home’ sector has been reduced by 75% of daily food delivery operations. However, people still need to eat. That means retail food outlets, grocers, are seeing sales increases of 25 to 50 percent, depending on the area.


    _______

    PEACE 😷

  52. @Fran Taubman

    > Oh fuck off you loser

    Don’t know what went before this. Open thread number one is not readable. Nevertheless I will claim that any user who begins a post with these five words would be insta- perma- banned any place I was moderating.

    (it purely distracts from the discourse)

    HAVE A NICE DAY!

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @A123
  53. Mehen says:

    The Covid Cabal

    [MORE]

    Those who run things down here
    Rule the world with fallacy and fear
    All wealth and power be their goals
    While discord fills their pitiful souls.
    The globalists, the bankers, they sat to conspire
    With pharma and 5G investors to make it so dire.
    Selecting the virus to shut down your nation
    Like it was threatening everything in creation.

    (2)
    Frederic, Chapel Hill, Winnipeg the bug did travel,
    And finally, to Wuhan where they made it unravel.
    Without real evidence the panic was risen
    Way out of proportion to anything given.
    The media and the state well into the lie,
    Had to make the numbers appear very, very high,
    Helping the virus to shut down your nation
    Like it was threatening everything in creation.

    (3)
    They hired their flakes to make us their fools,
    Their media, their networks, their paid-off tools,
    Phoney politicians, agencies, spin doctors galore,
    Anything to make the death number soar.
    The bug is a cover for where they have blundered,
    The Fed and markets and all they have plundered.
    Hyping the virus to shut down your nation
    Like it was threatening everything in creation.

    (4)
    They shut down the schools, the restaurants, and pubs.
    They shut down the conferences, committees, and clubs.
    They shut down the city. They shut down the stores.
    They confined you in your houses and locked all the doors.
    They will shut down the banks and steal your wealth,
    And all this they will do entirely through stealth.
    Magnifying the virus to shut down your nation
    Like a threat to everything in creation.

    (5)
    All experts were shunned not in their pay
    Like Dr. Wodarg who had something to say:
    “It started with a virologist who found a test
    For something a bit different from all of the rest.
    They brought in the media to help count the score
    And somehow the truth was of no matter anymore.
    Don’t make the virus shut down your nation
    It is not a threat to everything in creation.”

    (6)
    Then came Dr. Wittkowski to save the day,
    Having some very wise words and this to say:
    “With any respiratory disease or flu bug affair,
    It is the frail and the elderly who need our care.
    Whereas with children they are our protection
    They hardly get sick and do not need an injection.
    You don’t need to destroy your nation
    Life goes on like everything in creation.

    (7)
    “It is the young and the healthy who make us immune,
    Perhaps through exosomes wherever they commune.
    At least 80% should have contact with the virus
    But do not worry, most of it will simply go by us.
    The majority won’t even know they are infected
    For the rest, serious sickness is not to be expected.
    Please don’t let the virus ruin your nation
    Fighting a virus like this is a part of creation.

    (8)
    In only four weeks the virus will be dead
    Nature’s design will take nothing instead.
    Lock downs, distancing, flu vaccinations are wrong
    Making everyone vulnerable for what comes along.
    Keep more open to develop such immunity
    And you will have a most healthy community.
    Magnify the truth and save your nation
    Forget the money and respect your creation.”

    (9)
    But they shut down the churches, the faith to negate
    The people are weaker when they are selfish and hate.
    Truth, love, and justice, in the man form he came.
    They lashed his back and covered him in shame.
    They pounded his head, they nailed his hide,
    To a cross in the Square, where they pierced his side,
    Elevating the contagion to shut down your nation
    Now threatening everything that exists in creation.

    (10)
    Then they who run things from on high
    Reconvened in that City and let out a sigh:
    “If our politicians go along with their reasons
    They may now all be charged with treason.
    Yet, if they weaken their grip and not forge ahead
    They should fear us instead, that they end up dead.
    The truth is the virus which may revive every nation
    And now it is threatening everything in our creation.”

    (11)
    This thing they call the truth, it is way out of wack.
    We are now shutting down sites to get things on track.
    Trillions are at stake with Huawei, 5G, and vaccinations,
    Zillions in our new money when we control all nations.
    Trump, Xi, and Putin will continue to provide,
    They are fueling the panic. All want to be onside.
    Keep the virus going to shut down their nations
    Keep threatening everything in their creations”.

    (12)
    Vaccinations they shall inject at their will.
    It is the only way they can guarantee the kill.
    When everyone is chipped in the spiking,
    Singly they will be culled to their liking.
    A pretense their care for the aged and the ill,
    Because they have legalized their killing at will.
    Helping the virus to shut down your nation
    Threatens everything in your personal creation.

    (13)
    It was our religion that made us so strong.
    Our leaders they have inserted into our throng.
    They have given us lies and every kind of vice,
    To keep down our numbers, pretending to be nice.
    The have shut down the truth, and shut down clarity,
    To make more corruption, and more irregularity.
    Weakness is the real virus shutting down your nation.
    Let us be rid of it and save everything in creation.

    Freddie B.
    April 12, 2020

    • Thanks: Talha
    • Replies: @Hail
  54. Hail says: • Website
    @Morton's toes

    Is Fran Taubman a pure troll?

    One of the next lines in that very post is:

    “I strive to go beyond name calling to innovate creative solutions to problems.”

  55. Hail says: • Website
    @Mehen

    The best anti-CoronaPanic poem I have seen so far!

    (Truly, very good.)

    Re-posted in the current Audacious Epigone thread on Corona Panic.

    • Thanks: Mehen
  56. bjondo says:

    Amazing Polly, The 7-step Recipe for Creating Vaccines.

    RFK, Jr at approx 22 -28 min marks worthing watching.

    Bill Gates at approx 20 min worth hearing.


    Some evil minds need to be sent to Guantanamo.

    5 dancing shlomos

  57. @Fran Taubman

    Fran,

    You wrote:

    I strive to go beyond name calling

    And then: “fuck off you loser, Cowards, Losers!!!, You are an ugly mother fucker, ugly, sweating and slobbering, MF”. LOL.

    You don’t notice anything amiss there?

    Ok, I got it – you “strive”, so it doesn’t mean that you can actually achieve what you strive for.
    Try harder.

  58. A123 says:
    @Morton's toes

    Alas, there a huge number of fascist, racist hate posters on the site. Being in the minority that is correct draws abusive bullies. And, Fran’s response to being bullied is understandable, though less than eloquent.

    Odds are the fascist hate monger Fran was responding to deserves a perma-ban, but that is not how this site is run.

    PEACE 😷

  59. Mehen says:
    @Commentator Mike

    You don’t notice anything amiss there?
    Ok, I got it – you “strive”, so it doesn’t mean that you can actually achieve what you strive for.
    Try harder.

    Don’t be too hard on her, Mike. As I said in my comment which originally triggered her, “[…] you’re one of them, and true to form, incapable of any critical self-reflection.”

    This sort of strident obliviousness to one’s character flaws is probably related to Kevin MacDonald’s notion of “psychological intensity” and for all I know could very well have utility and survival advantages. On the negative side of the ledger, however, it doesn’t do very much for the development of a conscience and the ability to be a Good Person.

    I’m afraid they can’t help it.

  60. @Commentator Mike

    Forgive me CM, I use that language when people start laying on the I am an evil Zionist, and questioning my behavior. Some Christians who start with the synagogue of Satin, telling me that I should modify my behavior and be glad that they are pointing all the standard Jew tropes out. I do it to get them to stop, I don’t want them bothering me so I lay the vulgarity on until they stop.
    It usually works.

    This is what the Mehen character wrote:

    I’m guessing you don’t appreciate the difference between the “rugged individualism” of the Wild West which was based on strength, manliness, and codes of honor (no matter how spurious), versus the narcissistic solipsism, egoism, vanity and depravity of the “individualism” bequeathed upon us by the usual suspects starting sometime in the 60s (though there are those who would place the date earlier).

    That’s probably because you’re one of them, and true to form, incapable of any critical self-reflection.

    Below base honestly it deserves a double fuck off. This character does not know me, calling me depraved.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
    , @Mehen
  61. the fascist hate monger Fran

    I like how you phrased that – an unconscious slip perhaps? OK, I took it out of context – couldn’t help it LOL since that’s how you structured your sentence.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  62. A123 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    CM,

    You made your own unconscious slip failing to hit REPLY. It sounds like you are talking to youself.

    I realized that I botched the grammar only after the 5 minute window has closed. mea culpa… I should have written, “…the fascist hate monger that Fran…”

    English grammar is tough for those of us who have it as a first language… Even worse for those picking up as a second. None of us have professional editor/reviewers. As long as the meaning is clear, my suggestion is “letting the imperfections go”. Or, will you insist on “letting go of the imperfections”?

    I cannot even look up the original usage. After about 300 posts the reply box will not launch. After 400+, the thread/page will not load correctly. It is specific to my device, not a site problem. For the most part I take it as a feature, not a bug. By the time a thread gets to 300+, the comments are not terribly valuable anymore.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  63. @AnonStarter

    ‘… I make an effort to distinguish between Judaism and zionism, the latter of which represents the renegade faction of Israel which began long before the first aliyah to Palestine in the late 1800s, long before Jesus ‘alaihis-salaam was even born…’

    If the creation of a faction is viewed favorably by 95% of the audience, as Jews do Israel, can you really call it a ‘renegade’ faction?

    How could it be more mainstream?

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  64. @Talha

    ‘… The brand that I know of that sources dates from Palestine, Jericho specifically, is Ziyad Brothers and it is owned by a Palestinian family out of Chicago…’

    I’ll be looking for them. Mainly, I just focus on never buying from Home Depot.

  65. @A123

    I get this problem with the “reply” button, and I’m sure I’m not the only one, especially if I’m replying to the last post in a thread or when reloading the page if the comment doesn’t go through for whatever reason.

    Hey, I’m not complaining about your English usage, I understood well what you meant to say, just found it funny.

    • Replies: @A123
  66. @Fran Taubman

    Fran,

    We all get insulted here sooner or later but we should be able to argue without outbursts of invective. I wonder if you could get away with such language in an official debating contest? I’m not the one to dispense advice – just commenting – but – take deep breaths when you’re angry.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  67. A123 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I thought the problem with “last post” REPLY not threading properly was fixed months ago. That used to happen to me, but has not done so this year.

    Hopefully the intermittent bug has not returned.

    PEACE 😷

  68. @Commentator Mike

    Look. I have been called Jew witch, Jew bitch, Jew cunt, Jew…… . It is not a matter of being insulted. Not a problem do not mind being insulted. I am telling you there is a group here that harass with personal invective having little to do with the subject or discussion.
    Some of these people have pursued me for weeks with invective, I had this deranged radical pre Vatican Catholic nut job following me with memes of Jews torturing people. I am not complaining or saying I am a victim. I am telling you the method that I use to get rid of these harassers is to hurl it back. It shocks and that is a good thing. If Ron wants to modify them, it would be my pleasure. I only use vulgarity if vulgarity is presented to me. I apologize if it offends you, but you should see some of the posts directed at me.
    The people that I am responding to are not normal and could not be in a debating forum.
    Usually they are annons. I had one person post my mothers obituary on here.

  69. Mehen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    If it makes you feel any better, it turns out I have a not insignificant proportion of Ashkenazi in my maternal bloodline. Not much – just enough.

    Unfortunately for some here, that means I also have a sort of intimate “insider knowledge” of the internal thought processes of the type, buttressed by my youthful indoctrination by our (((modern culture))) which I have only begun to awake from in recent years, in part due to the wonderful UR.

    It’s been an ongoing conscious struggle — attempting to retain the good qualities of that particular heritage, while also honoring the other sides of my heritage.

    Perhaps that’s why I feel a great affinity for Ron Unz, despite his recent turn for the “worse”

    Ta ta for now…

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  70. @Colin Wright

    If the creation of a faction is viewed favorably by 95% of the audience, as Jews do Israel, can you really call it a ‘renegade’ faction?

    A trojan can nest in a computer, dormant for years before it’s activated and takes control of it.

    So the renegades have become mainstream. Would it be the first time such a thing has happened?

  71. @Mehen

    Unfortunately for some here, that means I also have a sort of intimate “insider knowledge” of the internal thought processes of the type, buttressed by my youthful indoctrination by our (((modern culture))) which I have only begun to awake from in recent years, in part due to the wonderful UR.

    That is too bad you have such a struggle. Why not see a Doctor to help purge the Jewish genes from your blood, or a psychiatrist. What a fucking stupid post. But your fight is your fight it is not a universal problem. I would look somewhere else other then your Jewish genes for your lack of success or neurotic habits.

    If it makes you feel any better, it turns out I have a not insignificant proportion of Ashkenazi in my maternal bloodline. Not much – just enough.

    Makes me feel better? Not really. I am very proud of my Jewish heritage.

    I am a successful artist, and run a successful business.
    All of my creativity, my talent, my intellectual curiosity comes from my lineage, my heritage. I lead a responsible moral life. My family taught me to be generous and help those around me in my community. Both sides of my family lived outstanding lives. Lives to be proud of. They lived during a difficult time in history. They never complained and succeeded under difficult circumstances. In short I have an amazing lineage.

    Ashkenazi in my maternal bloodline. Not much – just enough.

    Who would write that sentence? A pathetic wet noodle. It is true you did not get enough Jewish genes, you are an ignorant lightweight.

    • Replies: @Mehen
  72. The Rabbis Speak Out: The 130 Year Record of Religious Jewish Opposition to Zionism

    The past century has seen the rise of the Zionist philosophy, which transforms Judaism from a religion to a nationalism, from spirituality to materialism. (The word “Zion” was used by the prophets as a name for Jerusalem. The secular nationalists borrowed the name for their movement, whose goal was to take over Jerusalem.) The Zionists convinced a segment of world Jewry to leave behind their faith in the Almighty, not to trust in His security, and to take matters into their own hands. They forced their way out of exile and built a “Jewish” state. This act in itself was a severe violation of the Torah, which forbids Jews to found their own state before the coming of the messiah.

    The act is doubly sinful when we consider that they founded their state in the land already inhabited by the Palestinian people. They cruelly expelled, murdered and persecuted the Palestinians, and stole their land – all terrible crimes in the eyes of the Torah. [emphasis added]

    The boldfaced passage indicates the default orthodox position on zionism for centuries before the twentieth.

  73. bjondo says:
    @AnonStarter

    This act in itself was a severe violation of the Torah, which forbids Jews to found their own state before the coming of the messiah.

    Yid decided Yid is God.
    Messiah just allows for the roasting of animals,
    maybe a human or two.

    In other news,

    I am nominating Tony Fauxci
    for the Ignoble Prize, aka Peace Prize,
    aka Greedster’s/Mass Murderer’s Reward.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
    , @bjondo
  74. @AnonStarter

    Israel is the nation state of the Jewish people. No sense in going back in time. Your post falls under the category: That was then this is now.
    You are hopelessly lost. Keep trying maybe someday you will crack the code to unravel Judaism to your liking.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  75. @Fran Taubman

    Well Fran, can’t other people have their own nation states to themselves alone, or mostly, and build walls around them just as Israel does, and shoot would be trespassers? Since you are also an American you should have an opinion on this too.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  76. @Commentator Mike

    I am very much in sovereignty for all nation states. Stupid question what is your point. Does this fall under the WN category where Jews are allowing all the immigrants to come in to the US a la KMac.
    Save your post.

  77. @Fran Taubman

    How was I to know without asking? Thanks anyway for the reply.

  78. @AnonStarter

    Maybe this will make you feel better about Jews.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5025906,00.html

    You have such a hard time understanding your dilemma, as you attempt to rewrite our history to make it fit into Islam. Never going to happen. Never.

  79. geokat62 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I am very much in sovereignty for all nation states.

    I say, bullshit!

    As the ADL, SPLC and other Jewish Supremacist Organizations (JSOs) make clear, it’s ethno-nationalism for me and diversity for thee!

    Here’s why: since ethno-nationalism leads to fascism and fascism leads to genocide, there can be no ethno-nationalism for Western societies, which Diaspora Jewry predominantly inhabit.

    This is the truth of the matter, no matter how much Fran chooses to obfuscate.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  80. @geokat62

    I say bullshit back at you. There are way more non Jews interested in diversity then Jews. Go go track them down. You do not know what you are talking about. All of those immigration agencies are run by Latinos, non Jews.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  81. geokat62 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    All of those immigration agencies are run by Latinos, non Jews.

    lol! Follow the money, Fran. Most of these of NGOs are funded by George Soros‘ Open Society Foundations.

    I noticed on another thread you and AaronB reassuring yourselves that there is nothing to worry about.

    I wouldn’t be so sure, Fran.

    One of Jewry’s favourite slogan is: Never forgive, never forget.

    Looks like the goyim have co-opted it:

    • Replies: @A123
  82. Mehen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    What a fucking stupid post. But your fight is your fight it is not a universal problem.

    Heh heh heh heh heh heh

    I would look somewhere else other then your Jewish genes for your lack of success or neurotic habits.

    Just to be clear, are you suggesting neuroticism is NOT a common feature among Ashkenazim?

    Makes me feel better? Not really. I am very proud of my Jewish heritage.

    …said after I offered my own Jewish bloodline along with a quip that I was attempting to salvage the good parts of that heritage.

    This Fran Taubman character is too much. I’m guessing she(?) is quite old and out of touch. But that might be said for most of the commentariat at UR. I’m still sussing it out. What I CAN tell you is that those among MY generation — at least those who are awake — are prepared to offer you something new…

    I am a successful artist, and run a successful business.
    All of my creativity, my talent, my intellectual curiosity comes from my lineage, my heritage. I lead a responsible moral life. My family taught me to be generous and help those around me in my community. Both sides of my family lived outstanding lives. Lives to be proud of. They lived during a difficult time in history. They never complained and succeeded under difficult circumstances. In short I have an amazing lineage.

    Spot the irony.

    It is true you did not get enough Jewish genes, you are an ignorant lightweight.

    Behold Jewish Supremacism — (often repackaged and psychologically projected as erstatz “White Supremacy”)

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @anon
  83. A123 says:
    @geokat62

    lol! Follow the money, Fran. Most of these of NGOs are funded by George Soros‘ Open Society Foundations.

    Geokat,

    You are doing a great job helping Fran.

    George IslamoSoros is among the most influential Muslims in the world. His spending to put Muslim rapers into Rotherham for the normalization of Islamic paedophilia is well known. Muhammad raped Aisha when she was 9, so the goal of Islam is to make raping little girls common and accepted.

    And please, do not try selling the 100% debunked fiction that the IslamoSoros is Jewish. Everyone knows that the IslamoSoros is a Muslim. He is so opposed by the Jewish people of the Jewish nation that they warn Jews, and everyone in the world, about the IslamoSoros’s involvement with the mass murdering BDS Jihad Movement (1)

    Financing tied to billionaire activist George Soros is a common yet largely under-reported theme among organizations that lead or support the anti-Semitic Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) campaign attempting to delegitimize the Jewish state.

    In January, Israel released a list of 20 BDS-supporting organizations whose members will be banned from entering Israel due to their BDS activism, prominently featuring six American groups. At least four of the six BDS-promoting U.S. groups receive funding tied to Soros. Scores of other U.S. organizations that support the BDS movement are financed by Soros.

    Millions of dead Jews and Christians is the openly declared, obviously Muslim goal of the IslamoSoros and his Open Jihad Society Foundation of Genocide [OSF].

    PEACE 😷
    _______

    (1) https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/01/21/target-israel-george-soros-funded-groups-leading-bds-war-on-jewish-state/

    • Thanks: Fran Taubman
    • LOL: Mehen
  84. geokat62 says:
    @A123

    And please, do not try selling the 100% debunked fiction that the IslamoSoros is Jewish. Everyone knows that the IslamoSoros is a Muslim.

    lol, you’ve stumped me!

  85. @Mehen

    If contrasting racist ideologies and ignorance against rational thought and equanimity is superiority well if the shoe fits……
    Age is wisdom, you sound remarkably immature. neuroticism is a quality in all humans. Whether it be alcoholism, or fear, anxiety, and depression. What is the difference? Jews whether Ashkenazi or Sephardic the same basic neurosis as all other people.
    I mean what kind of neurosis would you call it if you are a Jew hating Jews like Ron or Gilad. Sounds like prima facia self hatred to me.
    What do you call the fantasy neurosis of Muslims and Islam that refuse to accept the very real and physical State of Israel by pretending that military resistance will work against a vastly superior military force? Or Islam’s refusal to accept Judaism as an equal religion?
    You gotta a lot to learn.

  86. Mehen says:

    Let it be known that the disputes here are a shallow and blinded cover for what is really going on.

    This is a spiritual war.

    The goyim have been assualted for decades by materialistic/reductionistic “scientists” (such as Michael Shermer) who promulgate the notion that all that exists is matter and atoms reacting randomly.

    This sort of paradigm — if followed to it’s logical conclusion (which many prefer not to) — ends up in NIHILSM and DESPAIR.

    At the same time, the other half of the (((Tribe))) who have been steeped in Kabbalah have learned the secrets of consciousness and therefore the arts of psychological manipulation.

    It’s a one-two, left-right punch. And we goyim fall for it and get beaten down.

    You either serve some notion of “God” (however broad), or you serve Mammon.

    There is no third choice.

    This is a spiritual war.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  87. @Mehen

    I guess UR is the only place this idiocy can muster for some sort fo profound ideology.
    Well that is your opinion which has been stated a million gazillion times by not very bright people.

    Natural physical laws combined with humans has its own wigs and waggles is a force more then any human can control. We are all subjected to inexplicable external forces at any given time we show up and live on the planet. It is what it is and most of life is random and more grey then black and white. Looking for a culprit either spiritually or by ethnicity is a fools errand.

    People are still trying to figure out how the south lost the war, or why Hitler didn’t finish of the Brits at Dunkirk All random. But yeh you love hearing the sound of your voice (a neurotic narcissist) on UR so knock your self out.

    • Replies: @Mehen
    , @Commentator Mike
  88. Mehen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Pretty sure your kind is on the backfoot, hopefully.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  89. bjondo says:
    @A123

    Soros is vampire.
    Yid is vampire.
    Soros is Yid.

    Rapewood is Yid.
    Yid is Rapewood.
    Rape is Yid.

    Such talk about Muhammad (PBUH)
    comes from diseased minds from
    a diseased belief system. Disease
    passed from generation to generation.

    25oo years of minds being filled
    with lies and deceptions and delusions.

    Yid hasbara cubicles filled with rot and bad smells.

    But,
    Yid is thoughtful enough to build
    many and high walls to protect noses
    of Palestinians from Yid smells.

    Thank you, Yid.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @A123
    , @Fran Taubman
  90. A123 says:
    @bjondo

    Soros is Yid.

    The IslamoSoros is a Yid.

    Thus, Yid = MUSLIM

    Your Non-Standard usage of terminology in reference to the Anti-Christ Muhammad, enemy of Jesus & God, risks confusing some less than attentive readers. Let me help you with that:
    ____


    The IslamoSoros is vampire.
    Muslim is vampire.
    The IslamoSoros is Muslim.

    Rapewood is Muslim
    Muslim is Rapewood.
    Rape is Muslim.

    Such talk about the Anti-Christ
    Muhammad is TRUTH

    Diseased Islamic minds from
    the diseased Muslim belief system
    is passed from baby raping generation
    to baby raping generation.

    _______

    That is much more clear. I am glad that I could help you with your English language deficiency.

    PEACE 😷

  91. @bjondo

    yeah your english is a little lacking. You sound like a retarded person. Don’t know if it is your language or your mind. But you cannot string two thoughts together. Did you make it passed 3rd grade?

    1100 BTB’s

  92. @A123

    George IslamoSoros is among the most influential Muslims in the world. His spending to put Muslim rapers into Rotherham for the normalization of Islamic paedophilia is well known.

    For the sake of accuracy I have to point out that those Paki rape gangs were well ensconced in Rotherham and elsewhere in the UK well before Soros came to prominence or anyone knew about him. I very much doubt he had any influence on UK government policy at the time they were importing immigrants en masse from the subcontinent.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @AnonStarter
    , @anon
  93. @Fran Taubman

    Fran,

    I actually very much stand for all that “without regard to ethnicity, race, colour, gender” but within reason and not to the extent that indigenous people become a minority in their own countries or the desctruction of local cultures.

    One thing I don’t understand about Jews: after the Nazis robbed and killed them, and it’s wrong, and the Jews recognise that it’s wrong (although Wally will deny it ever happened while some others will say it was justified), how could they go and do that same wrong thing to the Palestinians? I tend to be guided by the principle “don’t do unto others what you don’t like others to do unto you”. I know this can translate into “do unto others as they do unto you” but that means doing that to the “others” that wronged you and not finding someone weaker than yourself to bully around. Sure Jews aren’t the only ones who behave like this but still …

  94. @bjondo

    Yid decided Yid is God.

    Looks like it, yes. But not for themselves.

    Messiah just allows for the roasting of animals, maybe a human or two.

    Masihullah is a title for Jesus ‘alaihis-salaam, and we know they tried to roast kill him, but never succeeded, the entire story drawn out of whole cloth (or pre-existing pagan mythologies, take your pick).

    There’s more than one way to roast a human.

  95. bjondo says:
    @bjondo

    Couple of corrections (always rushed by timer):

    “God” should be “god”.
    Small, incomplete, under-a-rock god.
    Not universal.

    “Messiah” s/b “messiah”.
    A small, specific creature.
    Allows for torching goats, cows, humans to purify soul of the soulless.
    Not sure how that works.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
    , @AnonStarter
  96. geokat62 says:

    I’m not 100% sure about this so I could be wrong, but a rumour is spreading that our very own Fran Taubman may have authored the script to this video, You Clap for Me Now:

    Just joshing, Fran. I know that while you haven’t authored it, you certainly endorse it!

    • LOL: Mehen
    • Replies: @A123
  97. A123 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    For the sake of accuracy I have to point out that those Paki rape gangs were well ensconced in Rotherham and elsewhere in the UK well before Soros came to prominence or anyone knew about him. I very much doubt he had any influence on UK government policy at the time they were importing immigrants en masse from the subcontinent.

    Fair enough.

    Muslim Paedophilia goes back 1,400 years. George IslamoSoros is subsidizing and expanding the depraved behaviour, but he did not create it. Nor is he alone. Mutti Mullah Merkel has a position of actual authority and welcomed rape-ugees. Everyone who is a SJW Globalist, pushing multiculturalism, shares in the blame.

    Fixing the problem means:
    — First, defeating the ideology that allowed undesirables to migrate.
    — Then, sending the migrants and descendants of migrants back to their ancestral homelands.

    Not an easy task, but a necessary one.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  98. A123 says:
    @geokat62

    Geokat,

    Again you are helping Fran.

    Do you not see the relationship between Muslim SJW Multiculturalism and The IslamoSoros?

    Multiculturalism = Submission to Islam.

    Stop trying to blame Christians and Jews for the crimes of Muslims like The IslamoSoros.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @geokat62
  99. geokat62 says:
    @A123

    Multiculturalism = Submission to Islam

    Your equation needs to be tweaked a little:

    ethno-nationalism = fascism = genocide

    … and to prevent another genocide, Western nations (in which many of the diaspora inhabit) must embrace multiculturalism.

    This is the simple truth, no matter how much obfuscation you, Fran, AaronB and other hasbarats engage in!

    P.S. You need to edit that poster. It reads “George Soros Dark Lord of the Progressives.”

    Shouldn’t it read “George Soros Dark Lord of the Muslims”?

    • Replies: @A123
  100. @A123

    Yes. And how many times have you and others pointed that out about Muslims, as I have probably mentioned it a few times myself? Then how many times have so many said the same about the Jews and referred us to the Talmud justifying it and posted graphic depictions of what the Jews did to goy children in medieval times, draining their blood? And about the incest among both the Jews an Muslims (the cousin marriages)? And others pointing out the scandals of the Christian priests with their boys? Sure, it’s more prevalent in some societies, religions and cultures than others. The pagans may have been the worst for it. We should just do away with sicko depraved nonces whoever they are, including the Jap, Hindustani and Chink ones, and especially those in high places, many of whom are whites, and you can refer to David Icke to find out who those are. I’m all for pointing these bastards out but they’re present in all cultures and races. I’d agree that there seem to be more of them among Muslims, but others don’t seem to be above reproach in this regard either. This isn’t the only reason why we want them out, and you know the others reasons too.

    • Replies: @A123
  101. A123 says:
    @geokat62

    ethno-nationalism = fascism = genocide

    This does explain why Arab mono-ethnic nations are so genocidal against non-Arabs.

    It is not a complete answer though. Despite having minorities, Persian-ethnic dominated nations are also prone to genocide.

    … and to prevent another genocide, Western nations (in which many of the diaspora inhabit) must embrace multiculturalism.

    This is the simple truth, no matter how much obfuscation you, Fran, AaronB and other hasbarats engage in!

    SJW Islamic/Multiculturalism intentionally picked a deceptive name in an attempt to confuse. This comes from the Muslim practice of Taqiyya, lying to Infidels. SJW Islamic/Multiculturalism stands in direct opposition to “multiple cultures”. It is about creating a sharia-compliant “mono-culture” where Muslim traditions, like raping 9 year old girls, are accepted.

    Exploitation is normal for the SJW Islamic/Multiculturalism tradition, so they seemingly accept others. These Infidel “useful idiots” are expendable and provide cover, often unwittingly, for the underlying SJW Muslim core constituency.
    ____

    Western nations allowing “multiple cultures” is in direct opposition to the belief system labelled Multiculturalism. Allowing “multiple cultures” that support core Western (a.k.a. Judeo-Christian) values is a workable solution, and indeed necessary. Those cultures, like violent Islam, that are incompatible with Western values will ultimately be expelled.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @geokat62
  102. A123 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    The key difference is that Islam wants to normalize the behaviours of Muhammad’s life. Thus, Muslims want to keep and embrace sexual deviance as a value. Because, Muhammad raped Aisha when she was 9, this reflects a desired Islamic practice to be emulated by the faithful.

    Christian and Jewish culture sees sexual deviance as a sin that needs to be opposed. Yes. There have been some terrible failures over the years. But this behaviour will never become acceptable.

    PEACE 😷

  103. geokat62 says:
    @A123

    Western nations allowing “multiple cultures” is in direct opposition to the belief system labelled Multiculturalism.

    It’s not multiculturalism that’s your salvation, goy. It’s multiple cultures. See the difference, goy?

    Hasbara translation: take everyone in except for the Muslims, goy! lol

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  104. @Commentator Mike

    ‘… One thing I don’t understand about Jews: after the Nazis robbed and killed them, and it’s wrong, and the Jews recognise that it’s wrong (although Wally will deny it ever happened while some others will say it was justified), how could they go and do that same wrong thing to the Palestinians?…

    Abused children often reenact the abuse inflicted on them as children when they grow up — only with themselves as perpetrators.

    I don’t see why this can’t apply to groups as well as to individuals. In particular, I get the distinct impression that the Jews of Israel feel a collective sense of humiliation about how their people submitted to the Holocaust almost without resistance — and they obsessively try to get the Palestinians to similarly submit.

    …which proves to be eternally frustrating, since whatever their shortcomings otherwise, the Palestinians do obstinately keep offering resistance to the oppressor. Hence, the Jews can never assuage their collective sense of shame by getting the Palestinians to behave as they once did. The Palestinians — however dumbly, ineffectually, or incoherently — keep refusing to cooperate.

    What the Jews of Israel need — and what they keep seeking to bring about — is a general conflagration, against the background of which they can reenact that most central of all acts of the Holocaust, the mass extermination itself, only with the Palestinians as victims.

    …and watch the Palestinians try to resist that!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  105. bjondo says:

    Virginia with its current Sissy n’ Chief and its legislature of punks
    good example of why the Northeast needs to be walled off from
    the South and CA/OR/WA need to walled off from the SW.

    At least Mexicans have testosterone and are
    more American than these deceiving, lying sissies.

    5 dancing shlomos

  106. Don’t be silly.

    ‘… Virus Supplies Bound for U.S. Are Stuck in China Due to Export Rules
    Orders of face masks, test kits and other urgently needed medical equipment made by 3M, Owens & Minor and PerkinElmer are sitting in warehouses across China…’

    There’s no shortage of masks in the US. We’ve so many that we just flew a million to Israel.

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @A123
  107. And…

    ‘… And if that wasn’t enough. Nearly 700 sailors aboard the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle have tested positive for coronavirus, as have two U.S. sailors aboard the ship, with two more in quarantine. While Cdr. Kyle Raines, a spokesperson for the U.S. Navy’s 6th Fleet, said the infected sailors are receiving “excellent” care, the outbreak could be devastating for European military operations…’

    Devastating indeed: one can only imagine the impact. After all, there are all those geriatric sailors with multiple severe health problems.

    This is turning into a real festival of idiocy.

  108. @bjondo

    I am so glad you corrected those errors bjondo. I was really confused. lol
    1100 BTB’s

    don’t forget 1100 BTB stands for the 11o0 Israelis’s Blown to Bits by suicide bombs in 2000 during the 2nd intifada.

    • Replies: @bjondo
  109. @Mehen

    Big foot you say? I am ahead of whatever foot you are on.

    Who post a comment like this? You sound like Moses on Mt. Sinai. God has spoken:

    Let it be known that the disputes here are a shallow and blinded cover for what is really going on.

    Let it be known?
    Let it be known that you are a legend in your own lunchbox.

    • Replies: @Mehen
  110. A123 says:
    @Colin Wright

    There’s no shortage of masks in the US. We’ve so many that we just flew a million to Israel.

    Are you still repeating that misinformation?

    Israel bought masks from China. The U.S. was never involved in any way.

    A machine translation error converting Hebrew to English botched and changed:

    — Israel Ministry of Defense, Procurement Department — into —
    — U.S. Department of Defense, Procurement Ministry

    Given that U.S. DoD has no “Procurement Ministry” it should have been caught…. But it wasn’t. Blame JPost for the initial screw up.

    Given that the TRUTH has been out for many days, one can only assume that Colin Wright is deliberately lying.

    PEACE 😷

  111. bjondo says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Thanks,

    thought acronym was BSBY (bull shit by Yid).

    5ds

  112. @bjondo

    Couple of corrections (always rushed by timer)

    Use notepad or an equivalent to write before posting. I’ve still had the timing problem when I find something I’ve missed, but this method works well.

    “God” should be “god”.

    Actually, I think the original captures the meaning you intend to convey accurately.

    Not sure how that works.

    Sacrificial rites to appease “angry gods” predate Judaism by many, many moons. Such rituals were already endemic to religions of Near and Far East Asia. It didn’t take a great deal of imagination to co-opt elements of their salvation narratives in order to create a new form of paganism that apotheosized a Jew and provided an easy path to heaven.

    The idea was to advance The Lie that salvation comes in Israel, an objective that’s taken two millennia to properly subdue the goyim to whom it was directed.

    Look at our country. Is its object of worship what you would recognize as God or Israel?

  113. @Commentator Mike

    Most of what you hear with regards to the treatment of Palestinians by Israel is propaganda. There are 1.7 million Palestinian citizens that are the heads of hospitals, judges and in government. The palestinian issue is a straw man argument for the inability of Islam to recognize Judaism as an equal religion. They create a violent resistant movement at the expense of their population which keeps them from advancing economically and socially. If the US or any country had a hostile and violent population living on its borders much like the drug cartels they would be met with violence. Israel protects it’s citizens and keeps its country from degrading into dysfunction like many of it’s neighbors.

    You are looking at the conflict thru the wrong portal. It is not about territorial land, or disenfranchising an indigenous population. Many partitions of land and populations have been successful, like Pakistan and India. If the Muslims had wanted to accommodate the Jews returning to their ancestral homeland this conflict would have been over in 10 minutes with everyone living happily ever after. The Jews had been living in Palestine uninterrupted since temple times, although a much smaller community then the Muslim. It is a religious struggle between the Islam’s superiority over Judaism. Here is an interesting article on this subject viewing the conflict as a religious struggle.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5025906,00.html

    • Replies: @anotoni
  114. Settler violence against Palestinians spikes with COVID-19 pandemic, UN says

    Between March 17 and 30, “at least 16 attacks by Israeli settlers resulted in five Palestinian injuries and extensive property damage,” the UN reported. “This represents a 78% increase compared to the bi-weekly average of incidents since the start of 2020,” it said. Its data is based on information from its field reporters. The UN spoke of two incidents in which Palestinians were assaulted in the village of Umm Safa and Ein Samiya near Ramallah. In one of the assaults, an ax was used and in another one a hammer, the international body said. “Another two herders were physically assaulted and injured (in one case by a dog unleashed by settlers), while grazing sheep near Ein al Hilweh (Tubas) and At Tuwani (Hebron),” the UN said. There were five separate incidents in Burqa village near Nablus. There were also attacks in Al Mughayyir near Ramallah and the villages of Khashem and Dara near Hebron. The attacks included the stoning of vehicles, vandalizing structures and physical assault, the UN added. In the Gush Etzion region, some 100 Palestinian-owned olive trees were uprooted and in Hebron, surveillance cameras were damaged or stolen from a home and a school, the UN said …

    More available at the link. Everything from squatters settlers spitting on Palestinians to infect them with CV to flooding vineyards with sewage.

    All recent, post-CV outbreak news.

  115. @Commentator Mike

    I very much doubt he had any influence on UK government policy at the time they were importing immigrants en masse from the subcontinent.

    Say, for the sake of argument, that he did.

    Would that make any support of an effort to boycott, divest from, or sanction Israel somehow worse? They’re using anti-BDS legislation as sand in the gears. Like the movement or not, its right to engage in legal activism should be protected and defended by any concerned with actual threats to the western way of life — which, I can safely assert, has a great deal to do with one’s fundamental liberties.

    I don’t care for Soros or Adelson or any other sugar daddy trying to define the parameters of discourse in a way that continues to maintain zionist supremacy, but if the BDS movement does no more than draw others’ attention to the whitewashed history and status quo of Palestine, it’s done more than any mainstream media outlet has accomplished since 1948.

    And for that reason alone, it deserves support.

  116. @geokat62

    When I picture A’s LOLs, I envision them cascading from the far end of a sanitorium corridor, in the wing where they keep a sizeable inventory of strait-jackets and thorazine on hand.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  117. BDS ‘s double standard regarding Israel when compared to other countries especially the Arab Muslim countries that surround it, is viewed by most people as being anti semitic. That is why most countries not just the US have banned BDS. BDS is a toxic brew whose real goals is the elimination of Israel as Jewish state. Most people in the world want to solve the Palestinian problem without destroying the Jewish state of Israel. Here is a pretty cogent view of the BDS from a NYT op-ed.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/world/middleeast/bds-israel-boycott-antisemitic.html

    Nathan Sharansky came up with a 3D definition of anti semitism separating anti-semitism form normal criticism of Israel. AS is a text book 3D Jew hater from his denial of Judaism as a legitimate religion to his use of classic Jewish tropes, like the the Jews control the universe. Classic Just look at the list.

    The first “D” is the test of demonization — as noted in the State Department report. Jews have been demonized for centuries as the embodiment of evil, whether in the theological form of a collective accusation of deicide or in the generalized depiction of Jews as money-grubbing Shylocks. Today we must take note when the Jewish state or its leaders are being demonized, with their actions being blown out of all rational proportion.
    For example, the comparisons of Israelis to Nazis and of the Palestinian refugee camps to Auschwitz — comparisons heard frequently throughout Europe and on North American university campuses — are clearly antisemitic. Those who draw such analogies either are deliberately ignorant regarding Nazi Germany or, more commonly, are deliberately depicting modern-day Israel as the embodiment of evil.

    The second “D” is the test of double standards. From discriminatory laws many nations enacted against Jews to the tendency to judge their behavior by a different yardstick, this differential treatment of Jews was always a clear sign of antisemitism. Similarly, today we must ask whether criticism of Israel is being applied selectively. In other words, do similar policies pursued by other governments produce similar criticism?

    It is antisemitic discrimination, for instance, when Israel is singled out for condemnation by the United Nations for perceived human rights abuses while proven obliterators of human rights on a massive scale — like China, Iran, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Syria, to name just a few — are not even mentioned. Likewise, it is antisemitism when Israel’s Magen David Adom, alone among the world’s ambulance services, is denied admission to the International Red Cross.

    The third “D” is the test of delegitimization. Traditionally, antisemites denied the legitimacy of the Jewish religion, the Jewish people, or both. Today, they attempt to deny the legitimacy of the Jewish state, presenting it as, among other things, the prime remnant of imperialist colonialism.
    While criticism of an Israeli policy may not be antisemitic, the denial of Israel’s right to exist is always antisemitic. If other peoples, including 21 Arab Muslim States — and particularly the many states created in the postcolonial period following World War II — have the right to live securely in their homelands, then the Jewish people has that right as well, particularly given the sanction of the United Nations in setting up and recognizing the country at its founding. Questioning that legitimacy is pure antisemitism.

    My experience has convinced me that moral clarity is necessary for effectively struggling against evil. Evil must be recognized and isolated to be defeated. Only with clear moral demarcation, can evil be recognized and isolated. Evil thrives in moral confusion and uncertainty where right and wrong become a matter of opinion instead of clear, objective truth. With moral clarity, we can identify and expose the new antisemitism to universal condemnation.

  118. A123 says:
    @AnonStarter

    NonStarter,

    I would only go to a sanatorium to visit you in your little room.

    We all know this song is about you…

    Take your meds. You might eventually get better.

    PEACE 😷

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  119. @A123

    The key difference is that Islam wants to normalize the behaviours of Muhammad’s life.

    I’m not sure about that. In Iran and some other Muslim countries they execute pedophiles. I used to know a guy who worked as an executioner in Iran following the Islamic revolution but got fed up with it and escaped to the West. He told me that they also used to execute the underage victims of the pederasts, much to my shock and horror, but I suppose it was in recognition of what Colin Wright mentions in comment #107.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  120. @Colin Wright

    Colin,

    Abused children often reenact the abuse inflicted on them as children when they grow up — only with themselves as perpetrators.

    Yes I’ve heard of that theory, and there are many cases that seem to prove the point, especially among the serial killers. But I’ve known victims of child abuse who ended up hating pedophiles even more and would never dream of becoming something they so utterly detest, precisely because they were victims themselves.

  121. George says:

    Was covid created by the US to destroy China or was covid created by China to destroy the US? Answer neither. Since elderly men, aka the patriarchy, are the primary victims it is clear who the culprits are, feminists. Ever notice the large pretense of women in life sciences. Case closed.

  122. @Commentator Mike

    I’m not sure about that.

    Most of the Muslim world doesn’t try to rationalize marrying six year old girls, even if they still accept at face value the now debunked claim that ‘Aisha was six at the time of her marriage.

    Another thing to consider …

    ‘Aisha radiALLAHU ‘anha was the daughter of the Prophet’s best friend, Abu Bakr. Given their relationship, it is inconceivable that Abu Bakr’s hand — which was absolutely necessary for the marriage to occur — would have been forced in the matter. (This also presumes that the cumulative sum of the Prophet’s companions were of dubious moral character — a presumption devoid of evidence.) The available biographical material reveals that Arabs were not averse to gossip and scandal-mongering at that time, yet the matter of ‘Aisha’s age at the time of her marriage was never once a subject of controversy.

    I won’t address the claim about “some cultures,” as you’re correct to point out that it all comes down to a matter of one’s perspective, and endless argument over the subject doesn’t really serve any beneficial purpose.

    I’m not convinced of your alleged executioner’s tale, however, since, were this a regular phenomenon, it would surely have been shouted from the rooftops by one or more of the leftist Iranian dissidents acting in concert with zionists, and I’ve never seen this claim in their propaganda.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  123. Highly recommended site:

    https://imemc.org/

    Here you’ll find reports on Israeli conduct that usually don’t find their way into the western MSM. Every week, they provide a summary of the latest events, such as they’ve done for the latest week:

    https://imemc.org/article/pchr-weekly-report-on-israeli-human-rights-violations-in-the-occupied-palestinian-territory-09-15-april-2020/

    Notable patterns:

    Under the first section, entitled “Violation of the Right to Life and to Bodily Integrity: Shooting and Other Violations,” there are numerous incidents which conclude with the statement “Neither casualties nor material damage was reported.” These consist of entirely unprovoked aggression on behalf of Israel. For example …

    At approximately 15:00 on the same Friday, Israeli soldiers stationed along the border fence, east of Deir al-Balah, opened fire at agricultural lands. Neither casualties nor material damage was reported. …

    At approximately 09:40 on the same Saturday, IOF stationed along the border fence, east of Khan Younis in southern Gaza Strip, fired tear gas canisters at a group of Palestinian farmers, east of Khuza’ah village, adjacent to the border fence. No casualties were reported.

    In the section under “Incursions and Arrests,” we often read of Israeli raids that result in no arrests, which indicates they’re carried out merely to intimidate.

    Under “Settlement Expansion and settler violence in the West Bank,” we find numerous accounts of settler violence in which Israeli forces have done little to nothing in response.

    It’s one of the more comprehensive journals of events in occupied Palestine. Well worth checking out.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  124. @AnonStarter

    But there have been cases in Pakistan, India, Somalia and probably a few other places where female rape victims were sentenced to death. We do read about it sometimes in the western press but there’s not much they can do. Anyway, in Iran it may have been isolated cases of this in the aftermath of the revolution but they still execute the perpetrators and good on them.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  125. @Commentator Mike

    But there have been cases in Pakistan, India, Somalia and probably a few other places where female rape victims were sentenced to death.

    Well, this is another phenomenon, one upon which Talha may be able to shed more light.

    It’s a tragic abhorrence whether the women are victims of rape or not. First of all, the evidentiary threshold for both adultery and fornication is a nearly-impossible-to-reach four witnesses to the act of copulation, and even then, there is no capital punishment — contrary to some rulings. More importantly, the shari’ah punishment for rape itself is death.

    Anyway, in Iran it may have been isolated cases of this in the aftermath of the revolution but they still execute the perpetrators and good on them.

    Absolutely.

    In addition to rapists, murderers, armed robbers, and those who abuse the public trust are also supposed to be sentenced to death.

    Which merely shows how distant we actually are from Islamic government fourteen centuries hence.

    • Replies: @Talha
  126. @AnonStarter

    Bookmarked it. Thanks.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  127. bjondo says:

    Bill Gates Population Control Episode 2 SYRIAN GIRL. Episode 1? Don’t know.

    Another Gates humanitarian goody:

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/africans-speak-out-against-the-mass-circumcision-campaign-300370353.html

    Talk, harm, kill, talk, pay off.

    Bill, circumcise your eyelids, mouth, wife.
    Lobotomize the disturbed parts of your brain.
    Vaccinate Melinda.

    Now the world feels better.

    Bill and Melinda Gates, soulless, vampire morons with money.

    5 dancing shlomos

  128. Mehen says:

    After reading some of Ron’s recent curt and dismissive comments regarding the anti-CoronaPanic deplorables, I’m afraid I have suffered a crisis of faith. My very first comment to UR a few days ago was “Don’t let us down, Ron”.

    I’m afraid he’s let us down.

    Unless, following his pattern, he begins to see the light at some point down the road and provides us with a comprehensive American Pravda review.

    But right now, the following video expresses my feelings at the moment:

    For all of the past few years I have been following the dissident Right, I have made an effort to avoid the Bad People like Andrew Anglin and sundry deplorables. I really felt UR struck the correct balance between penetrating analysis and unhinged “hate”. I would occasionally take a “peek” at a Daily Stormer article posted in the comments here, but would dally no more longer than it took to rub one out at Pornhub lest I be infected by the depravity there.

    Lately, I’ve been taking a closer look at the site as a result of my skepticism, and have to say I rather enjoy it.

    Thanks Ron.

  129. Mehen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Who post a comment like this? You sound like Moses on Mt. Sinai. God has spoken:

    Your presumption is that you know more than I regarding esoterica.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  130. Can’t find a single thing wrong with what Dr. Karmi says …

    Anti-Israel academic claims ‘terminating Zionism is only way to permanent peace’

    An academic has claimed the “pro-Israel lobby dealt the final blow” to Jeremy Corbyn’s chances of becoming Prime Minister, adding: “Terminating Zionism is the only way to a permanent peace.”

    Dr Ghada Karmi – who has delivered lectures on ‘conflict and peace-making’ at the University of Exeter where she is a honorary research fellow – also wrote of her fears new Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer was attempting to pander to the “lobby’’ in an article for Middle East Eye.

    Writing after Mr Corbyn left office on April 4, she says: “While much has been made of the capitalist establishment’s role in Corbyn’s downfall due to his socialist economics, it was the pro-Israel lobby that dealt the final blow.

    “The idea that a British prime minister would one day promote the Palestinian cause to the world must have seemed the stuff of nightmares.

    “Persistent campaigning by this lobby since 2016 – largely mediated by the Zionist Jewish Labour Movement, the pro-Israel Board of Deputies of British Jews and Labour Friends of Israel, and likely coordinated by the Israeli embassy – achieved its aim.”

    Dr Karmi – who has been a Research Associate at the School of Oriental and African Studies and Senior Visiting Fellow at the Department of Arabic and Middle Eastern Studies at Leeds University – compares Israel to Apartheid South Africa, claiming: “It was not possible to support apartheid and also black rights, and the conflict only ended with apartheid’s abolition.”

    She adds: “The same holds true for Zionism in Palestine. Terminating Zionism is the only way to a permanent peace.”

    Dr Karmi then claims Sir Keir has attempted to “win over the lobby” with his immediate apologies for Labour’s failure over antisemitism on becoming leader of the party.

    She suggests he is likely to “prefer to persist with the myth of a Palestinian state living ‘alongside Israel’, so as to avoid confronting the true situation”.

    The JC has contacted Dr Karmi for comment.

    In April 2017, the JC revealed Dr Karmi defended the use of term “Untermensch” – used by the Nazis to brand “inferior” non-Aryan people – a way to describe Israel’s relationship with the Palestinians.

    She spoke out at an anti-Israel conference after one of the main organisers of the event had told the audience that he was “profoundly uncomfortable” about the use of the word “untermensch” in a previous speech.

    Dr Karmi responded: “I just felt I had to say something about the use of the word ‘Untermesch’. Untermensch’s equivalent in English is sub-human. And sub-human is how people in Gaza feel they are being treated by the Israeli army.’’

    She continued: “We are not allowed to use words that the Nazis used as if they were true and unique only to what the Nazis did to the Jews. It is not right.

    “For Palestinians I don’t think they make a distinction between what happened to the Jews in Germany and what is happening to them. That is something we need to remember.”

  131. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mehen

    This Fran Taubman character is too much. I’m guessing she(?) is quite old and out of touch.

    Yep, the senile old jew cunt is truly psychotic. This is the Khazar judensau on a public bus in California back in 2012:

    @ 0:03 she is berating the bus driver and says “you’re like a disease”

    @ 0:13 the driver stops the bus and the jewess says to him “What do you want GOY [i.e. non-jew]? What’dya want GOY?” … a passenger says “he’s the driver” … jewess responds, “He’s a GOY!”

    @ 0:39 the jewess says to a passenger “your grin is gonna turn to blood. May your grin turn to blood [repeats this several times]”

    @ 1:01 — 1:14 the jewess says “I’m calling the Mashiach [Hebrew Messiah] to kill you. Serve the Jews or die. I’m part of the Rebbe’s campaign and I don’t ever want the Messiah coming for you ever. I want you to be completely abandoned and I want you to turn into a slave.”

    @ 1:16 onward: jewess snarls and proclaims, “I’m a Jewess, every mikvah I kill you retarded Nazis” (followed by some chant or curse in Hebrew) “every mikvah I do kills you Nazis… Every Nazi I kill is all for the Jewish people.”

    @ 1:44 the disturbed jewess says to a female passenger (out of view), “now shut your nasty mouth or suck a cock. How much cock have you sucked you gnarly girl? You suck that cock? Put it in your throat girl you gotta get that cum everywhere, you little ho, you little Nazi girl, you’re naughty, you’re naughty..”

    • Replies: @Mehen
  132. Talha says:
    @AnonStarter

    one upon which Talha may be able to shed more light.

    Would love to, but first – has there been a credible report of an actual court case (not some village elders) where a woman who was raped was sentenced to death in Pakistan? Can I get a citation from a credible source?

    I can say that Mufti Taqi Uthmani, who was a former justice on the Federal Shariat Court, stated this:
    “I myself had been directly hearing cases registered under Hudood Ordinance, first as a Judge of Federal Shariah Court and then for seventeen years as a member of Shariah Appellate Bench of the Supreme Court. In this long tenure, not once did I come across a case in which a rape victim was awarded punishment simply because she was unable to present four witnesses.

    In fact it was not possible to do so. First, according to the Hudood Ordinance, the condition of four witnesses only applied to enforcing the hadd for rape. Clause 10(3), which awarded the ta’zeer punishment, did not have this requirement; the crime could be proven through one witness, medical reports, and chemical analysis report. Consequently most rape criminals were awarded punishment as per this clause.

    Further, a woman claiming rape could not be punished under Qazf (false accusation of zina) since Exemption 2 in Qazf Ordinance Clause 3 clearly stated that if someone approaches the legal authorities with a rape complaint, she could not be punished in case she was unable to present four witnesses.”
    https://www.albalagh.net/women/0096.shtml

    Wa salaam.

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @AnonStarter
    , @Adûnâi
  133. bjondo says:
    @Talha

    has there been a credible report of an actual court case

    Such is not needed.
    Statement by a NeoCon, Israeli, hasbarat, all that is required.
    If standards are set too high, little can be accomplished.

    Truth can be slippery and as Debra Lipschitz, maybe it was
    Elie Weasel, has said, “the tale is too good not to be used.”

    5 dancing shlomos

  134. bjondo says:

    Is this the reason H. Kissinger received the Peace Prize?

    https://larouchepub.com/other/1995/2249_kissinger_food.html

    https://www.hli.org/resources/exposing-the-global-population-control/

    If not, another should be given before he croaks.

    Toss in another Prize for Gates.

    Had sterilized over a million African women.

    5 dancing shlomos

  135. @Mehen

    Your presumption is correct. Stick with the Stormer.

    • Replies: @Mehen
  136. Comment in response to Paul Kerseys race based thread on the frotn page. posed up over there will Kersey put it up..or will bury it in moderation as usual with my comments?

    https://ways-to-die.com/murder-rates-race/

    “It is true that there are more black people in prison than those of other races. It is also true that they are 8 times more likely to be a perpetrator of a crime, but at the same time, they are 6 times more likely to be the victim in a criminal case. If you count forwards from 1980 and calculate all murder rates by race, then black people account for 52.5% of all murders, with those of a white and hispanic background accounting for 45.3%. (See our Black Serial Killers article for a more in depth look).

    Recent studies suggest that close to 50% of all young gang members are hispanic, as opposed to just 35% black. These numbers have grown considerably in recent years, which may signal a future shift in the murder rates by race..

    As mentioned already, black-on-black murder is more common than black-on-white, but this is also applicable with other races. Whites and hispanics are considerably more likely to kill members of their own race than to kill members of opposing races, suggesting that warnings of impending race wars are as unfounded as we all hoped.

    In 2016, just 12 percent of the total number of homicides in the US were the result of black-on-white or white-on-black murder. This had increased from the year before, but not by a notable percentage.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  137. One thing we know for sure in addition to rape culture is that no cure for the Corona virus will be coming out of the Islamic world. Interesting article on why the Islamic world turned away from science and rationality. No one know that better then Israel. Arab Muslim culture is the very definition of irrational behavior.
    https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/why-the-arabic-world-turned-away-from-science

    Here are some excerpts:

    There are roughly 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, but only two scientists from Muslim countries have won Nobel Prizes in science (one for physics in 1979, the other for chemistry in 1999). Forty-six Muslim countries combined contribute just 1 percent of the world’s scientific literature; Spain and India each contribute more of the world’s scientific literature than those countries taken together. In fact, although Spain is hardly an intellectual superpower, it translates more books in a single year than the entire Arab world has in the past thousand years. “Though there are talented scientists of Muslim origin working productively in the West,” Nobel laureate physicist Steven Weinberg has observed, “for forty years I have not seen a single paper by a physicist or astronomer working in a Muslim country that was worth reading.”

    There was a modest rebirth of science in the Arabic world in the nineteenth century due largely to Napoleon’s 1798 expedition to Egypt, but it was soon followed by decline. Lewis notes in What Went Wrong? that “The relationship between Christendom and Islam in the sciences was now reversed. Those who had been disciples now became teachers; those who had been masters became pupils, often reluctant and resentful pupils.” The civilization that had produced cities, libraries, and observatories and opened itself to the world had now regressed and become closed, resentful, violent, and hostile to discourse and innovation.

    But the Islamic turn away from scholarship actually preceded the civilization’s geopolitical decline — it can be traced back to the rise of the anti-philosophical Ash’arism school among Sunni Muslims, who comprise the vast majority of the
    Muslim world

    In trying to explain the Islamic world’s intellectual laggardness, it is tempting to point to the obvious factors: authoritarianism, bad education, and underfunding (Muslim states spend significantly less than developed states on research and development as a percentage of GDP). But these reasons are all broad and somewhat crude, and raise more questions than answers. At a deeper level, Islam lags because it failed to offer a way to institutionalize free inquiry. That, in turn, is attributable to its failure to reconcile faith and reason. In this respect, Islamic societies have fared worse not just than the West but also than many societies of Asia. With a couple of exceptions, every country in the Middle Eastern parts of the Muslim world has been ruled by an autocrat, a radical Islamic sect, or a tribal chieftain. Islam has no tradition of separating politics and religion

    • Replies: @anon
  138. Mehen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Your presumption is correct. Stick with the Stormer.

    Thanks. I believe I will. Just another arrow in my quiver.

    But I’ll be sure to stick around at UR as well in order to share my thoughts with you.

  139. Mehen says:
    @anon

    This is the Khazar judensau on a public bus in California back in 2012:

    I had never heard of the term “judensau” before. Had to look it up.

    That’s terrible.

    I don’t believe Fran is a judensau but the behavior in your video does raise an eyebrow.

    Fran, please tell us you are not the woman depicted in that disgusting video.

    Please.

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  140. bjondo says:

    Promising his share of $450 million of $1.2 billion to eradicate Polio, Gates took control of India’s National Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (NTAGI) which mandated up to 50 doses (Table 1) of polio vaccines through overlapping immunization programs to children before the age of five. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) epidemic that paralyzed 490,000 children beyond expected rates between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and asked Gates and his vaccine policies to leave India. NPAFP rates dropped precipitously.
    In 2017, the World Health Organization (WHO) reluctantly admitted that the global explosion in polio is predominantly vaccine strain. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, Afghanistan, and the Philippines, are all linked to vaccines. In fact, by 2018, 70% of global polio cases were vaccine strain.

    https://truepundit.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-exposes-bill-gates-vaccine-agenda-in-scathing-report/

    Another link with some repeat, some additional info:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/robert-f-kennedy-jr-exposes-bill-gates-vaccine-agenda-scathing-report

    Nobel to RFK, Jr. He would give the prize value after mainly scum awardees.

    Tony “19” Fauxci goes to Guantanamo for retirement. Never to leave.

    Maybe Black Hole of Calcutta for both Gates and Fauxci. Appropriate. Eat all the bats
    their mouths can hold.

    Shutter the CDC.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  141. @Mehen

    Yeah right along with the cunt Jew. unbelievable. I did not watch the video.

    • Replies: @anon
  142. @Talha

    As-salaamu ‘alaikum.

    May ALLAH reward you, Talha akhi. It’s a blessing to have a brother like you here. Your maturity and wisdom instill confidence in me that we can engage in some meaningful discussion. If I’m wrong about something, I stand to learn what I hadn’t already known, which can only be a good thing, alhamdulillah.

    I’m certainly more inclined to accept Mufti Uthmani’s word in this matter. Problem is, we’re inundated with so much conflicting information, it becomes a necessary labor to sift the wheat from the chaff. This is where your own personal knowledge becomes very valuable (as it did when the subject of the Bamiyan statues was raised).

    Can I get a citation from a credible source?

    There appear to have been some high publicity cases where a death sentence was handed down only to be overturned on appeal, such as that of Safia Bibi v. State. Zafran Bibi v. State was another.

    The Washington and Lee Law Review published a Note entitled Twenty-Five Years of Hudood Ordinances–A Review. From it, we read …

    By creating the new offenses of adultery and fornication, the Zina Ordinance caught women who had suffered rape in an insidious legal trap. A rape victim who pressed charges risked prosecution for extra-marital sex.37 This transformation from victim to criminal took place whenever a woman complained of rape–thereby “confessing” to having been subjected to sexual intercourse–and her accusation did not lead to a conviction of the rapist.38 In this scenario, there was only her admission of sexual intercourse, but no proof that this intercourse had been against her will.39 Described as “double jeopardy,” the criminalization of any sexual intercourse outside a valid marriage, irrespective of consent, turned the offense of rape on its head by exposing the victim to the risk of punishment for adultery.40

    Clearly, Mufti Uthmani did not preside over any cases such as the aforementioned, though there appears to be evidence they occurred. One serious problem seems to be that the accused may be imprisoned for lengthy stretches of time during the appeals process, which, in addition to being costly, also exacts a heavy toll on their familial and social reputation.

    That said, I gather that there are also those who plead a defense of rape though they’ve actually consented to the act — this defense being necessary both to avoid a more severe sentence and to protect one’s honor.

    Furthermore, while a capital sentence for adultery may be handed down, I find no evidence of that sentence actually being carried out in the last few decades. This is quite significant, since it’s easy to be misled into concluding that those so sentenced are, in fact, executed.

    Looking forward to your response. Shukran.

    was-salaam.

  143. @bjondo

    You do know that Gates and Fauci are not Jewish? I guess you are just such a rocket scientist Bojo Bonjo, full of scientific facts and figures. Must tax that full on brain of yours. Maybe you should fry up some bats and tell us what they taste like. Yid vid Yid, eyelid vid Yid. The Yid vid
    The Yid that ate the Vid.
    The Bjo BonJo b j on do that ate the bat and became a Yid. A deicide Yid vid eyelid.

    1100 BTB’s

    • Replies: @anon
  144. Mehen says:

    I tried to post the following helpful comment to the newest Steve Sailer post but it was rejected for being “spam”

    I put a lot of work into it, so hopefully it might help some here, but it would be better if it could be spread among our fellow CoronaPanickers

    —————-

    This comment is directed to Steve Sailer and Ron Unz:

    I was a Corona-Believer from mid January to about early March. In other words, I had hopped on that train early on. In early March I was really freaking out, considering some of the evidence that this virus was bioengineered in some fashion. Around March 15 I started reading all the Corona-Skeptics and eventually went down that rabbit-hole.

    But up to that point I had been researching and spending tons of money on mitigation strategies.

    To that end I had amassed a large quantity of nutraceuticals in order to strengthen my immune system in preparation for the Apocalypse.

    I have been taking most of the following for weeks now, but I am beginning to lay off the practice of swallowing 20 pills a day because I now believe this virus has been overhyped.

    I won’t bother getting into the scientific evidence supporting the ingestion of the following nutraceuticals because I had so little time to prepare. But I do have a background in pharmacology for mental disorders as well as having a history in “supplements” for nootropic effects and body-recomposition effects. In other words, do your own research. The following is just a guide.

    The primary things Steve and Ron should be taking, which have the most scientific research:

    [MORE]

    Vitamin D3 (4000-5000 IU) — some say this should be augmented with Vitamin K2 for atherosclertoic reasons

    Vitamin C — in moderate doses as a prophylactic, in high doses during sickness (the liposomal form is the ideal)

    Zinc — try to stay away from cheap forms of Zinc like Zinc gluconate, and go for ionic forms of Zinc like Zinc sulfate or Zinc acetate

    Those are the big three.

    But there are many others, in the event you are shitting your pants.

    Omega-3 fish oil — reduces inflammation

    Olive leaf extract

    Black elderberry (keep in mind there is some evidence this should only be used as a prophylactic and not used during the infection period because it might enhance so-called “cytokine storms”)

    Quercetin — which shows similar Zinc ionophor features as the fabled Hydroxychloroquine

    Curcumin

    Chaga mushroom extract

    Oregano Oil

    Selenium

    Glutathione

    N-acetyl-Cysteine

    Probiotics (remember that 80% of your immune system is dependent on your gut flora)

    ECGC (Green Tea extract)

    Garlic extract

    The amino acid L-Lysine seems to have anti-viral properties

    Grape seed extract

    Alpha-lipoic acid

    For the brave among you:

    Nebulized colloidal silver

    AHCC

    I am confident that if you have such a battery behind you, you will not need to be hospitalized by this virus.

    I happen to have a well-stocked medicine cabinet at this point so if Steve and Ron are still concerned, I am willing to share some of my stash with them.

  145. bjondo says:

    Modern/old science not needed for
    food, clothing, housing, arts,
    literature, hair cutting, nice spas,
    human interactions.

    MS is most wonderful for killing and the degrading
    of life, for creating new diseases, for a most efficient
    totalitarian regime for world control, great spying,
    invasion of privacy, isolation, mind control, weakening the mind.

    And for allowing hasbarats the ability to
    send useless, distracting, BS around the world.

    5 dancing shlomos

  146. anotoni says:
    @Fran Taubman

    israel is nothing more than the logical conclusion of judaism an ethno religious supremacist doctribe that see the rest as nothing more than cattle to exploit , is nazism for jews .

    anyone who subscribe to such doctrine only deserve death

    • LOL: Fran Taubman
  147. anon[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You do know occupied Palestine and Zionism are not Jewish? I guess you are just such a rocket scientist, a regular Khazar Frankenjew, full of hasbara and jew myths. Must tax that broken jew brain of yours. Maybe you should boil up some gefilte fish and tell us what they taste like. Zhyd Yid vid Yid, eyelid Zhyd Yid. The Zhyd Yid vid
    The Zhyd Yid that ate the Yid vid eyelid.
    The Frankenjew golem f g on totem that ate the gefilte fish and stayed a Zhyd. A christ-killing Zhyd Yid vid eyelid.

    6,000,000 BTB’s

    • Thanks: Fran Taubman
  148. @ben sampson

    Ben,

    Your comment went through on Paul Kersey’s blog so you’re not blacklisted. He’s probably just lackadaisical about his moderation.

    • Replies: @anon
  149. anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Yeah right along with the cunt Jew. unbelievable.

    You are a cancerous cunthuman and a rabid jew cretin who defends jew war crimes and jew crimes against humanity, 24/7, by copy/pasting inane jew hasbara from racist zio jew sites and screeching “JEW-HATER!!!!!” at everyone after you’ve attacked everyone else’s ethnicity and religion.

    I mean, If the shoe fits……nu? 🤣🤣🤣

  150. anon[220] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Ben,

    Your comment went through on Paul Kersey’s blog so you’re not blacklisted. He’s probably just lackadaisical about his moderation.

    Nah, Kersey is a low IQ, bigoted white ethnic nationalist sack of shit, who will allow the vilest race-baiting comments to be posted about refugees—people who’ve fled from the very countries that you genocidal white psychopaths have destroyed, or have tried to destroy and are still occupying or effectively controlling—but will hold any comments critical of his cancerous white ethnic nationalist ideology, in moderation indefinitely.

    But of course you would defend Kersey, being a low IQ, bigoted white ethnic nationalist sack of shit yourself, no?

    The sooner all you braindead white/jew ethnic nationalist wastes of oxygen are white genocided and jew holocausted, the better it will be for the rest of humanity.

    I submitted two comments in response to Kersey’s obscene “Her Name Is Emily Jones: White Seven-Year-Old Brutally Stabbed to Death by Somalian Immigrant in British Park” hit piece.

    This was the first comment I submitted, which I’ve had to recreate from memory and so won’t be absolutely identical to what I wrote when I submitted the comment originally, but should be broadly similar:
    __________________________________________________________________

    “… we cannot comprehend why this has happened.”

    If only you’d consulted the high “IQ” white nationalist dindus here at the UR, they’d’ve given it to you in a nutshell: Because, white genocide!!!!

    Authorities have yet to confirm the woman’s identity, but thanks to an erudite race realist who tweeted on “Social media”, we now know with absolute certainty that poor little Emily was “Beheaded by a Somali immigrant in front of her parents in the park.”.

    So, yeah, the reason “why this has happened” is because Emily fell victim to the oldest hatred: the visceral, inexplicable, uncontrollable, genocidal hatred of white dindus.

    You’ll need to send all the low “IQ”, violent, ungrateful savages back to their shithole countries and seal the borders if you want to stop the persecution of the poor white dindus, and save the dindu nuffins race that never dindu nuffins to nobody, least of all Somalis:

    Gen. Wesley Clark reveals 2001 plan to attack Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran

    Whites dindu nuffins to no one, you got that?

    … tell him of her fate at the hand of a Somalian immigrant as she rode her scooter in broad daylight, do you think he’d return to fight for King and Country?

    … tell him of the fate of Somalis at the white dindu hand of an American dindu nuffins to nobody occupier that hides in the shadows, do you think he’d “return to fight for King and Country”?

    The Hidden U.S. Air War in Somalia: Amnesty Accuses U.S. of Possible War Crimes for Civilian Deaths

    Americans blamed for killing civilian populations in Somali drone attacks

    Ex-US intelligence analyst charged with leaking top-secret drone war docs

    Trump Steps up War on Whistleblowers: Air Force Vet Daniel Hale Arrested For Leaking Drone War Info

    The white dindus in the CIA dindu nuffins neither:

    The CIA’s Secret Sites in Somalia

    Renditions, an underground prison and a new CIA base are elements of an intensifying US war, according to a Nation investigation in Mogadishu.

    Link: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/cias-secret-sites-somalia/

    These secret dindu documents reveal whites dindu nuffins to Africa:

    Secret US Military Documents Reveal a Constellation of American Military Bases Across Africa:

    Newly disclosed numbers contradict more than a decade’s worth of dissembling by US Africa Command.

    Link: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/secret-us-military-documents-reveal-a-constellation-of-american-military-bases-across-africa/

    White on Black murder!? White on Brown murder!?

    The Drone Papers

    The Intercept has obtained a cache of secret documents detailing the inner workings of the U.S. military’s assassination program in Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia. The documents, provided by a whistleblower, offer an unprecedented glimpse into Obama’s drone wars.

    Link: https://theintercept.com/drone-papers/

    You rayciss!!! Whites dindu nuffins to nobody and would never hurt a fly!!!

  151. anon[308] • Disclaimer says:
    @Commentator Mike

    For the sake of accuracy I have to point out that those Paki rape gangs…

    🤣🤣🤣

    Nah, gammon breath, “For the sake of accuracy” you shoulda pointed out that you’re a low IQ white ethnic nationalist window licker who only gives a shit about the sexual abuse of children when the children being abused are white English girls and the cunts doing the abusing are “those Paki rape gangs…”

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  152. Ron Unz,

    You should look into the so-called Franklin cover-up from Nebraska.

    Might help make for a good American Pravda article.

  153. anon[360] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    One thing we know for sure in addition to rape culture is that no cure for the Corona virus will be coming out of the Islamic world. Interesting article on why the Islamic world turned away from science and rationality. No one know that better then Israel. Arab Muslim culture is the very definition of irrational behavior.
    https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/why-the-arabic-world-turned-away-from-science

    Here are some excerpts:

    🤣🤣🤣

    One thing we know for sure in addition to their Talmudic rape culture, is that no cure for the anti-gentile jew virus will be coming out of the jew-cucked west. An interesting article which may shed some light on why the jew world turned to “science and rationality” in order to subjugate the goyim, after the goyim stupidly liberated the ignorant gentile-hating jews from the tyranny of their own gentile-hating racist religion. No one understands this better than the Muslim Arabs. The “JEW-HATE!!!!!!!” one sees in Arab Muslim culture is the very definition of rational behavior:

    http://daatemet.org.il/en/torah-science-ethics/religion-ethics/gentiles-in-halacha/

    Here are some excerpts:

    GENTILES IN HALACHA

    Tzfi’a 3

    THE EDITORIAL BOARD

    President of the Editorial Board and Founder: Rabbi Moshe Segal OBM

    Rabbi Yisrael Ariel

    Moshe Asher

    Joel Rakovsky

    Amishar Segal

    Articles are the authors’ responsibility

    5749

    JEWS ARE CALLED — MAN

    THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN JEWS AND GENTILES IN TORAH

    Rabbi David Bar Chaim

    Yeshivat Mercaz HaRav

    INTRODUCTION

    Over the past few years, there has been a recognizable trend amongst different circles in the religious community — a humanistic/universal inclination. There are many who have written in praise of love, “for all men who were created in the image of G-d.” We have even been “graced” with a pamphlet of this name, Chaviv Adam Sh’nivra B’tzelem, composed and edited by Mr. Yochanan Ben Ya’acov, the Director General of the Bnei Akiva Youth Movement. The explicit goal of those who share this outlook is to prove that all men are equal, that it is forbidden to discriminate against any man on the basis of his race, and that anyone who claims the opposite is nothing but a racist, distorting the words of the Torah in order to fit them to his “dreadful” opinions.

    Here are two examples:

    A statement by Ms. R. Huberman:

    …I never imagined that the Torah discriminates between one man and the next on the basis of faith, nationality, or race…on the contrary, it is our Torah which teaches that the blood of man is holy simply because he is man: “Whoever sheds man’s blood by man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of G-d made He man” (Genesis 9)…in the Ten Commandments it is written: “You shall not murder”!There is no hint of a restriction, no hint that the prohibition applies to a Jew and not to a Gentile…”

    (“Between Blood and Blood,” Amudim, a monthly magazine of the Religious Kibbutz Movement, Tamuz 5745, pg.352).

    [Former] Member of Knesset (National Religious Party) Professor Avner Shaki:

    “The Jews of the State of Israel who received the Torah of Moses on Mount Sinai, where it was established that man was created in the image of G-d, have no need for any…law to teach us this fundamental basic of the Torah, that all men are born equal according to Judaism…man’s equality, man’s status before G-d and before his fellow man, is a primary and fundamental principle in the Jewish Torah…of course, we will not assist any type of racism which discriminates against man because of his color, religion, or nationality…”

    (an excerpt from his speech during a discussion in the Knesset on an amendment to the Basic Law of the Knesset and the Penal Law)

    We have something very clear before us: all human beings, Jew and Gentile, are equal. As will be further clarified, this outlook completely contradicts the Torah of Moses, and stems from an absolute lack of knowledge, permeated with foreign Western “values.” There would not be any need to respond were it not for the many who are mistaken and lead astray by it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  154. bjondo says:

    Scott Adams, paid agent, shill for Bill Gates:

    Starts approx 35:50, S/B episode 916:

    Adams also deep state mouthpiece where N. Korea, Iran concerned.

    Maybe people here smart. Don’t pay attention to Scott.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @bjondo
  155. @anon

    It’s funny how little I’ve missed since blocking Fran. After all, I still get the lowlights:

    ‘One thing we know for sure in addition to rape culture is that no cure for the Corona virus will be coming out of the Islamic world. Interesting article on why the Islamic world turned away from science and rationality. No one know that better then Israel. Arab Muslim culture is the very definition of irrational behavior.
    https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/why-the-arabic-world-turned-away-from-science

    Here are some excerpts…’

    At any rate, hopefully these are the lowlights. I’m getting abstractly enraged by the thought that there might be worse still.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  156. @Colin Wright

    It’s funny how little I’ve missed since blocking Fran.

    Amazing, isn’t it? The air feels that much cleaner.

  157. bjondo says:
    @bjondo

    correction.

    Don’t know if Adams paid. Just sounds like it to my mind.

    5ds

  158. @anon

    ben,

    I never supported imperialist conquest or domination of the world by anybody. And there are plenty of blacks in on the racket you condemn. How about showing a vid of Colin Powell dangling some vial in the UN? Or whatever garbage Condolezza Rice used to spew out.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  159. @anon

    I’m not one for letting anybody off the hook. If they deserve it, let them hang!

  160. @Commentator Mike

    ‘… How about showing a vid of Colin Powell dangling some vial in the UN? Or whatever garbage Condolezza Rice used to spew out.’

    Note that both of these figures would appear to be mostly white, genetically, and I doubt if there was anything particularly ‘black’ in their upbringing. They’re ‘black’ in something like the same sense that Putin is Mongolian.

  161. bjondo says:

    Back to Earth, Prison Planet:

    Sometimes, to save a village (from itself), it needs to be destroyed. (Some humanitarian Amer)

    Sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind. (Some rocker.)

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @Brás Cubas
  162. bjondo says:
    @bjondo

    and …

    you have everything to fear from mfg’d fear. (Some Amer pres)

    5ds

  163. Hail says: • Website

    COVID19/Coronavirus:

    “Just the Flu” Vindicated by the Data; Or, Why to End the Shutdowns Now — a full review of the evidence, which I believe is now decisive for the anti-Panic side.

    We made a big, big mistake.

    • Replies: @Hail
  164. @bjondo

    Sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind. (Some rocker.)

    That’s actually from Shakespeare originally:

    Hamlet:
    I do repent; but heaven hath pleas’d it so
    To punish me with this, and this with me,
    That I must be their scourge and minister.
    I will bestow him, and will answer well
    The death I gave him. So again good night.
    I must be cruel only to be kind.
    Thus bad begins and worse remains behind.

    Hamlet Act 3, scene 4, 173–179

  165. Nodwink says:

    I posted this on another thread, but you have to watch this, the modern environmentalist movement is a gigantic fraud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE&feature=youtu.be

  166. @anon

    Gen. Wesley Clark reveals 2001 plan to attack Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran

    Whites dindu nuffins to no one, you got that?

    Wesley Clark comes from a long line of rabbis

    …Gen. Wesley Clark knew just what to say when he strode into a Brooklyn yeshiva in 1999, ostensibly to discuss his leadership of NATO’s victory in Yugoslavia.

    “I feel a tremendous amount in common with you,” the uniformed four-star general told the stunned roomful of students.

    “I am the oldest son, of the oldest son, of the oldest son — at least five generations, and they were all rabbis.”

    …He told The Jewish Week in New York, which first reported the yeshiva comment in 1999, that his ancestors were not just Jews, but members of the priestly caste of Kohens.

    Clark’s Jewish father, Benjamin Kanne, died when he was 4, but he has kept in touch with his father’s family since his 20s, when he rediscovered his Jewish roots.

    inspiringquotes.us

    “Let’s not forget what the origin of the problem is. There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.”
    — Wesley Clark

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
  167. FLgeezer says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Thank you Hippo. I had no idea nor did anyone else I suspect.

  168. bjondo says:

    Did someone say, “lunacy and a long line of lunatics”?

    Go back in time as insane as in present day.
    From loons come loons.

    From 2005,

    Pope Dead; Give Israel and the Jews Their Property

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/4969

    Yes, it is time to talk about thievery and returning what belongs to another.

    Oh,

    nothing owed Yid.
    Nothing stolen from Yid.

    Absolutley, zero owed Yid state.
    Well, maybe spit.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  169. bjondo says:

    Haven’t seen this but told relevant to today:

    “Dangers of the Swine Flu Vaccine” CBS 60 Minutes 1979

    https://theconsciousresistance.com/dangers-of-the-swine-flu-vaccine-cbs-60-minutes-1979/

    I’ve heard Bill and Melinda have sworn oaths, on moving water,
    to be first in line for their vaccines and special markers.

    Dr Tony Fauxci will take double doses.

    5 dancing shlomos

  170. @A123

    Christian and Jewish culture sees sexual deviance as a sin that needs to be opposed.

    Umm. You probably wouldn’t know that Judeo-Christian as an adjective is an oxymoron.

    Christianity is based on the Gospels’ accounts of the words and actions of our Lord and Saviour.

    Pretty much everything he preached was in total opposition the Pharisees at a time when before their oral teachings had not yet been put in writing, so Jesus was obviously well-schooled in all the fine print of the so-called religion.

    Besides Him saying that marriage is between a man and a woman and a bond for life, unlike the Jewish polygamy and their easy “I divorce thee” method where the man can have a scribe give her the walking papers any time, no reason required, Jesus also said that it’s an abomination for a man to lie with a man, and He said that because the jews had been doing all sorts of acts against nature.

    Do a text search for the following: synagogue of satan, children of the father of lies, and whited sepulcher to find his views on the very same what Immanuel Kant called a system of political control or an organized crime family. And there’s the part about the handwashing ritual that he skips and the healing he did on Saturday, and something about putting the word of man above the word of God.

    Bottom line is that Christianity was created based on Jesus being opposed to everything Jewish.

  171. alba. says:

    is cain and abel myth inspired in the romulus and remus roman myth?

    View post on imgur.com

    Remus is like Cain because they are the jealous brothers, and Abel is like Romulus because they are the good brothers. In the story of Cain and Abel, Cain killed Able because he was jealous that God favored Abel’s offering more than Cain one

    they are both the first or proto first linague that would give birth to rome or the world

    wrote in the 3 century bc that would putt even earlier than any direct hebrew masucript

    the last few weeks of quarentine i have been reading a lot of comparative mythology and oi have found a lot of interesting things

    In the Proto-Indo-European myth Yemo and Manu were the first humans and twin brothers and for some reason Manu sacrificed Yemo to the gods and thus became the first priest and the ancestor of all humans.

    Im sure cain and abel story is copied from some proto indo european myths the question is where and when it happened.

    but the most interesting thing is how yahve is actually an indo european god
    you don’t have to change anything to know that they’re related is self-evident

    Prehistoric Proto-Indo-European: Dyeu, Greek: Zeus, Latin: Iovis – E-yoh-vis, Latin root: Iov – E-yoh-vee, Hebrew: Yahweh – Yah-veh

    the patriarchal storm god who is usually depicted on a chariot killing the dragon serpent leviathan

    and the roots are almost identical too

    View post on imgur.com

  172. @bjondo

    Did someone say, “lunacy and a long line of lunatics”?

    Look in the mirror.
    Watch season 3 of Fauda(netflix) and see the mighty Yids kick your ass. Your boys got their suicide vests on really thrilling. A Gaza kidnapping and the Yids go in for the rescue in the deep of night.

    1100 BTB’s

  173. alba. says:

    here is a fragment of what i wrote a couple of month ago to complementate with new information of the previous post

    Have you ever noticed that Abraham and his wife Sarah of the old testament are nearly identical in name to Brahma and his wife Saraswati of the Hindu religion?

    [MORE]

    Abraham is said to be the father of the Jews, and Brahma, as the first created being, is often seen as the father of mankind…’ We might also note that the name of Brahma’s consort Sarasvati seems to resonate with that of Abraham’s wife, Sarah [… each one’s identity as a wife and/or sister]. Also, in India, the Sarasvati River includes a tributary known as the Ghaggar…. According to Jewish tradition, Hagar was Sarah’s maidservant
    Abraham/Sarah and Brahma/Saraswati are not the only overlapping figures between Hindu and Hebrew traditions. Ajit Vadakayil points out that there is also Adam/Eve and Adhama/ Havyavati, along with Noah and Nyuha or Manu

    Brahma as Father of All , while Abraham as Father of many nations
    Brahman Milky Way is the Celestial Cow/Dolphin; with 14 Constellations on right side of Milky Way and 14 Constellations on the left, while Abraham’s star-like descendants number 14 generation from Abraham to King David; 14 from David to the Babylonian exile and 14 from Babylon to Jesus.

    Brahma and Sarasvati dwelt 100 years together then bore their first son, while Abraham was 100 when Sarah, at 90, bore Isaac .

    lets review some part of the old testament

    On that day, YHWH will punish
    with his heavy, great and strong sword
    the Leviathan, the Àeeing serpent,
    yes, the Leviathan, the writhing serpent ±
    he will kill the dragon in the sea.

    leviatan is Early Indo-European influence of the Northwest Semitic world may have
    come from various sources.17 Two of these are especially relevant: the
    Anatolian Indo-European speaking cultures of Asia Minor (especially Hittites and Luwians) on the one hand, and Indo-Aryan inÀuence (probably
    mediated through the Mitannians, who while mainly being ethnically
    and linguistically Hurrian had a clear Indo-Aryan inÀuence or stratum
    in their onomastics and traditions as well

    As an example of the possibly parallel dragon slaying mythology from
    Vedic India, lets look at to this piece of text:

    He who after slaying the serpent released the seven rivers,
    he who drove out the cows that were held back by Vala,
    he who between the two rocks gave birth to ¿re,
    victorious one in battles ± he, O men, is Indra!

    In both cases, we have tales of a young, stereotypically ‘manly storm god, using lightning
    as his weapon (in Indras case, often identifed with his so-called 9DMUD,
    compare with the lightning-shaped ‘cedar weapon used by Baal in the
    Baal Cycle and depicted on the Baal au foudre stele) defeating a terrible
    serpent. And just as Baal receives his weapons for destroying the sea god
    Yamm (an ally of the sea serpent) from the craftsman god Kothar-waHasis, Indra receives his weapons from the Vedic craftsman god Tva

    https://portal.research.lu.se/ws/files/21683942/Studies_in_Isaiah_offprint_Wikander.pdf

    but what about the principal god itself? a storm god lay behind the earliest conceptualization of the Jewish god YHWH according to jewish historians

    so YHWH was probably a relative of indo european indra thor or zeus

    https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium.MAGAZINE-jewish-god-yahweh-originated-in-canaanite-vulcan-says-new-theory-1.5992072

    and can genetics help us resolve the mistery?

    yes it can ,ashkenazi levites alongside kohanites the jewish priestly class have one of the highest proportion of r1a halogroup in the world around 60% and their derivate is not from a recent eastern european source but much more ancient when sintashta tribe the so called indo iranians were conquering all the middle east around 1600 bc .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levite

    there is no doubt that an indo european tribe like mitanni or hittites conquered the proto hebrews among many others and imposed thenselfs as a priestly and a warrior class over the semitic masses introducing the idea of supremacism that at that time was only a concept developed by aryans specially the indo iranian branch

    View post on imgur.com

  174. @alba.

    How do you know who borrowed from who? Like who came first?

    • Replies: @alba.
  175. @alba.

    there is no doubt that an indo european tribe like mitanni or hittites conquered the proto hebrews among many others and imposed thenselfs as a priestly and a warrior class over the semitic masses introducing the idea of supremacism that at that time was only a concept developed by aryans specially the indo iranian branch

    What are you talking about?

  176. alba. says:
    @Fran Taubman

    because there are other similar myths in the indo european pantheon spread across thousands of years and km aways from ech other sharing the same cultural and genetic package before the creation of hebrew identity .

    there is no doubt about it

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  177. @alba.

    They all are on the same time line. Mt. Sina was 1400 BC, about the same time as Vadic. Abraham way before. And knows did not travel back then. Do you have sources?

    • Replies: @alba.
  178. alba. says:

    we even have direct proofs of indo europeans asenting in the levant ,apart of the mitanni and hittite influence ,there is r1b halogroups all over the levant around 1400-1200bc

    >The new Harvard genotype datasets that I blogged about recently include a couple of potentially very useful samples from the Levant dated to 1400-1100 BCE. Search for IDs I2062 and I1934 in the anno files here. They’re both from an archeological paper about a Late Bronze Age (LBA) burial site in what is now Israel that was published back in 2017 (see here).

    >Surprisingly, individual I2062 is listed in the anno files as belonging to Y-haplogroup R1b1a1a2, which is also known as R1b-M269. The reason that this is a surprise to me is because R1b-M269 is closely associated with the Bronze Age expansions of pastoralists from the Pontic-Caspian steppe in Eastern Europe, and these expansions didn’t impact the Levant in any direct or significant way.

    https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/04/r1b-m269-in-bronze-age-levant.html

  179. alba. says:
    @Fran Taubman

    you must be a troll

    dont compare a isolated tribe living in the middle east to indo europeans that conquered nearly all eurasia from portugal to western china from north russian steppe to india by the year 1500bc and whose culture gods and traditions are well known to have developed from the same proto indo european roots at least from 3000bc ,cultures lthat have no direct contact with hebrews only with indo europeans and whose more recent link is at least 4000 years like is the case with beal beakers imposing those myths in europe and andronovo in asia

    the only common links to all those cultures around the world are the indo european expansions

  180. alba. says:

    and if you take the original semite abjad form it became even more aparent

    Abraham brahma

    brhm <brhm

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  181. bjondo says:

    The Covid-19 pandemic hits the world. Undeterred, the Israeli forces of Occupation (including the settlers*) escalate the rampage and the outrages. Murders, harassment and arrests, home demolitions, destruction and/or theft of virus aid equipment and food and brutalizing of aid workers, Gaza crop poisoning on a grand scale, West Bank crop destruction, etc. Spitting on Palestinians is now de rigueur. Business as usual. Sadism on a grand scale. Whence the motivation? And the collective psychological reward? The Jewish God is a militant** deity.

    Israel is a pariah*** state. It is an apartheid^ state in its construction, from its inception as an ethnocracy, not one for which the label ‘apartheid’ is merely a dangerous prospect on the horizon with a completely colonized^^ West Bank.

    *squats; **psychotic; ***shitty; ^exterminationist; ^^destroyed

    https://alethonews.com/2020/04/25/israel-and-world-jewry/

    Blessings during Ramadan

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  182. @bjondo

    what a crappy story same old same old. Muslims hate the Jews end of story, a lot of jealously since all reason, logic, science and rational thoughts have left Islam. good bye reason. hate on the Jews and that little strip of land. boring really. Normal people stopped caring when they realized it was the rantings of crazy people.
    11o0 btb’s

    • Replies: @anon
  183. @alba.

    I believe it went the other way around starting with the fertile crescent.
    The Hebrew language is derived from the Sumerians and that genetic group. There are several competing ideas despite all your gnome numbers from Steppes on primacy of cultures. What you say is not a done deal.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982218307577

    The main competing theory connects the spread of Indo-European languages to an earlier event, the spread of agriculture, which had started to arise in the Fertile Crescent around 12,000 years ago (Curr. Biol. (2013) 23, R667–R670) from Anatolia to Europe. Thus, the Anatolian theory, championed by archaeologist Colin Renfrew at the University of Cambridge, UK, places the origins of the language family more than 8,000 years ago in modern-day Turkey. From there, it would have spread to the Balkans before expanding into the rest of Europe and much of Asia.

    Support for this version comes from Bayesian (i.e. probability-based) analysis of the phylogenetics of modern Indo-European languages. Most recently, the group of Quentin Atkinson at the University of Auckland, New Zealand, applied this methodology to 103 ancient and modern languages and came to the conclusion that the phylogenetic tree of the languages supports an origin in Anatolia between 8,000 and 9,500 years ago (Science (2012) 337, 957–960). Critics posit that the evolution of languages may have been too irregular for this method to yield robust results. Moreover, the hypothesis has not fared well with recent DNA analyses.

    • Replies: @alba.
    , @Mehen
    , @anon
  184. alba. says:
    @Fran Taubman

    its old news every scientist from harvard ,oxford even indians scientist have already claudicated to the steppe origin of indo europeans .

  185. Mehen says:
    @Fran Taubman

    The Hebrew language is derived from the Sumerians and that genetic group.

    Does this mean Jews are the Annunaki?

    • Replies: @anon
  186. @alba.

    ‘… there is no doubt that an indo european tribe like mitanni or hittites conquered the proto hebrews among many others and imposed thenselfs…’

    Judaism basically appeared in the wake of the Persian conquests. More likely, Biblical mythology was derived from Persian sources, themselves related to the Indian mythology you discuss.

  187. anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mehen

    Does this mean Jews are the Annunaki?

    No, it means Frankenjew Taubman is a senile old jew cunt.

    • Replies: @Art
  188. alba. says:

    and here is the history of adama and Havyavati, However the book does not describe them as the first parents of humanity but only as the progenitors of a particular tribe.

    At that time the Kali purusha prayed to Lord Narayana along with his wife. After sometime the Lord appeared to him and said, “This age will be a good time for you. I will fulfil your desire of having various kinds of forms. There is a couple named Adama and his wife Havyavati. They are born from Vishnu-kardama and will increase the generations of mlecchas(foreigners). Saying this, the Lord disappeared. Having great joy the Kali purusha went to Nilacha.

    Vyasa said: “Now you hear the future story narrated by Suta Goswami. This is the full story of of Kali-yuga, hearing this you will become satisfied.”

    In the eastern side of Pradan(Capital) city where there is a big God-given forest, which is 16 square yojanas in size. The man named Adama was staying there under a Papa-Vriksha or a sinful tree and was eager to see his wife Havyavati. The Kali purusha quickly came there assuming the form of a serpent. He cheated them and they disobeyed Lord Vishnu. The husband ate the forbidden fruit of the sinful tree. They lived by eating air with the leaves called udumbara. After they had sons and all of them became mlecchas. Adama’s duration of life was nine-hundred and thirty years. He offered oblations with fruits and went to heaven with his wife. His son was named Sveta-nama, and he lived nine-hundred and twelve years. Sveta-nama’s son was Anuta, who rulled one-hundred years less than his father. His son Kinasa rulled as much as his grandfather. His son Malahalla ruled eight-hundred ninety five years. His son Virada rulled 160 years. His son Hamuka was devoted to Lord Vishnu, and offering oblations of fruits he achieved salvation. He ruled 365 years and went to heaven with the same body being engaged in mleccha-dharma.

    Having good behavior, wisdom, qualities like a brahmana and worship of God, these things are called mleccha-dharma. The great souls have declared that the dharma of the mleccha is devotion to God, worship of fire, nonviolence, austerity and control of the senses. The son of Hamuka was Matocchila. He ruled for 970 years. His son Lomaka ruled 777 years and went to heaven. His son Nyuha (Noah) ruled for 500 years. He had three sons named Sima, Sama and Bhava. Nyuha was a devotee of Lord Vishnu.

    • Replies: @alba.
  189. anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    I believe…

    And no one with half a brain gives a cunting fuck about what you “believe”, you insipid little jew cunt.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  190. anon[328] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fran Taubman

    Normal people stopped caring when they realized it was the rantings of crazy people.

    Yeah, normal people stopped caring about your crazy jew rantings a while back.

    6,000,000 please holocaust yourselfs, jew cunt.

    • Replies: @anon
  191. alba. says:
    @alba.

    adam and eva is probably a middle eastern derivation (the earliest mention of the indian myth is 13ac)that indians used to explain another ethoreligious identity (mlecha)and subjugating their gods and creation myths to vishnu and their conception of the world portraying them as a little branch of their gods.

    its worth noticing regardless

  192. Art says:
    @anon

    “No, it means Frankenjew Taubman is a senile old jew cunt.”

    That sentence is extraordinary – it expresses an overwhelming exasperating blowback feeling. It is proof that Jews bring hate onto themselves. Fran is a proud anti-Semite maker.

    She voices the childish unfiltered contempt for humanity that most Jews feel, but hide.

    She freely enunciates, what 80% of all cultural Jews feel.

    • Replies: @anon
  193. Trinity says:

    I hope the gym opens tomorrow but first I have to get my hair did.

  194. anon[399] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art

    Interesting you think anon is an anti-Semite. He is just a sick fuck who has no respect and calls women cunts. What a poor choice you made Art. How stupid to think of him as anybody but a creep.

    • Replies: @Art
  195. anon[399] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    6,000,000 please holocaust yourselfs, jew cunt.

    Joo cunt what a big vocabulary. You really like calling people Joo cunts.

    😍😍😍

  196. @anon

    ‘And no one with half a brain gives a cunting fuck about what you “believe”, you insipid little jew cunt.’

    Insipid?

    No…Fran’s not ‘insipid.’ The dead rat y0u notice inside your walls in Hawaii is not ‘insipid.’ Neither is Fran.

    Give credit where credit is due, I suppose. Fran is not ‘insipid.’

  197. Art says:
    @anon

    Interesting you think anon is an anti-Semite. He is just a sick fuck who has no respect and calls women cunts. What a poor choice you made Art. How stupid to think of him as anybody but a creep.

    Do not know the where Anon is in the spectrum of evil – but I know where Fran is – right near the top.

    Her Jewish State has millions of Palestinians in virtual prisons, causing the whole world grief.

    It is totally foolish to fall for her Stockholm Syndrome victimization screeds.

    Fran deserves no sympathy.

  198. bjondo says:

    After the Fauxci-19 lock-down lift,
    every time someone coughs, sneezes, burps,
    Phony Tony Fauxci’s tongue will flap,” Shut America down!
    Vaccinate! Vaccinate! Vaccinate!”

    F–k off Fauxci.
    You too, Gates.
    Time both ‘retired’ to Guantanamo.

    5 dancing shlomos

  199. Adûnâi says:
    @Talha

    People on Reddit are defending a Pakistani woman who killed her husband and ate his corpse.

    https://old.reddit.com/r/instantkarma/comments/etzd03/instantkorma/

  200. ’28 US senators request funding increase for antisemitism envoy
    The letter was endorsed by the Anti-Defamation League, The Jewish Federations of North America, American Jewish Committee, Hadassah, B’nai B’rith International, and many other organizations.’

    Amusingly, it’s proving strangely difficult to find out who the twenty eight are. If anyone can help out here, I’d find the list interesting to read.

    Here are some random guesses. Aside from the usual suspects, I submit Senator Hirono of Hawaii, Senator Schatz of Hawaii, and Senator Wyden of Oregon. Is that Kamala Harris creature a Senatrix? If so, her as well.

    …So somebody tell me my score.

  201. Israel may ask for double its usual $3.8 billion from the U.S this year

    There are indications that Israel may request an amount of U.S. aid this year that works out to over $14,000 per minute from American taxpayers. Breaking Defense magazine reports that Israel may ask to get its yearly aid ahead of time, and possibly twice as much as usual… But 26 million Americans out of jobs and U.S. companies closing due to coronavirus might object… A petition proposes: ‘Israel has received over $10 million per day, year after year. This year it’s time to keep our money home.’

    • Replies: @Art
  202. I should hope so.

    ‘Coronavirus: NYC mayor sorry for Jewish funeral criticism’

    The Goyim need to know their place.

    Don’t they, Fran?

  203. Art says:
    @AnonStarter

    Israel may ask for double its usual $3.8 billion from the U.S this year

    “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”

    Long before Rahm Emanuel used this expression during the great recession of 2008, Sir Winston Churchill is credited with first saying, “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” He said it in the mid-1940s as we were approaching the end of World War ll.

    • Replies: @Art
  204. Some good news on a new study from China:

    Antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2 in patients with COVID-19
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0897-1

    The abstract is:

    “We report acute antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2 in 285 patients with COVID-19. Within 19 days after symptom onset, 100% of patients tested positive for antiviral immunoglobulin-G (IgG). Seroconversion for IgG and IgM occurred simultaneously or sequentially. Both IgG and IgM titers plateaued within 6 days after seroconversion. Serological testing may be helpful for the diagnosis of suspected patients with negative RT–PCR results and for the identification of asymptomatic infections.”

    For those who are not familiar with the concepts, the following Wikipedia article may help somewhat:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody

    IgG is defined in the above Wikipedia article as:

    “In its four forms, provides the majority of antibody-based immunity against invading pathogens.[5] The only antibody capable of crossing the placenta to give passive immunity to the fetus.”

    IgM is defined in the above Wikipedia article as:

    “Expressed on the surface of B cells (monomer) and in a secreted form (pentamer) with very high avidity. Eliminates pathogens in the early stages of B cell-mediated (humoral) immunity before there is sufficient IgG.”

    The media has reported the finding:

    https://www.news1.news/n1/2020/04/coronavirus-the-chinese-study-100-of-patients-cured-of-covid-19-develop-antibodies-burioni-good-news.html

  205. bjondo says:

    Contact what?





    bonus:



    Who the hell are these ghouls.

    Latest Fauxci-19 death numbers in U.S. of Old Glory: zero.
    The higher death numbers from F-19 are from the improper use of ventilators.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @bjondo
  206. bjondo says:
    @bjondo

    And lying.

    Lying, SOB, bastard liars … you know.

    5ds

  207. Art says:
    @Art

    Long before Rahm Emanuel used this expression during the great recession of 2008, Sir Winston Churchill is credited with first saying, “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” He said it in the mid-1940s as we were approaching the end of World War ll.

    Oh my — another Jew robbing someone else’s intellectual achievement.

    The Jew MSM are all falsely giving Emanuel the credit.

  208. Seems not too long ago, Israel was pretending it has played no role in America’s aggressive stance toward Iran …

    With Apparently Fabricated Nuclear Documents, Netanyahu Pushed the US Towards War With Iran

    An investigation of supposed Iranian nuclear documents presented in a dramatically staged Netanyahu press conference indicates they were an Israeli fabrication designed to trigger US military conflict with Iran.

    Netanyahu is the quintessential zionist: shamelessly, unflinchingly mendacious through and through.

    • Agree: Miro23
  209. Patagonia Man [AKA "PTG Mann"] says:

    Not trying to be alarmist but …

    Earthquakes registering 2.0 are fairly common but has anyone else noticed this?

    [MORE]

    Magnitude 5.2 earthquake 4 km from Matsumoto, Nagano, Japan · 23 Apr
    Magnitude 5.2 earthquake 64 km from Mutsu, Aomori, Japan · 24 Apr
    Magnitude 5.4 earthquake 146 km from Chiapas, Mexico · 24 Apr
    Magnitude 5.4 earthquake 1934 km from Easter Island, Chile · 24 Apr
    Magnitude 4.9 earthquake Countries affected: Bulgaria, Moldova, Romania, & Ukraine, 6 km from Romania · 25 Apr
    Magnitude 6.3 earthquake 120 km from Papua New Guinea · 25 Apr
    Magnitude 4.9 earthquake 3 km from Shimotsuma, Ibaraki, Japan · 26 Apr
    Magnitude 2.0 earthquake Canberra, ACT Australia ∙ 27 Apr
    Magnitude 4.0 earthquake 17 km from Ridgecrest, California, USA · 27 Apr
    Magnitude 5.2 earthquake 477 km from Samoan Islands · 28 Apr
    Magnitude 5.4 earthquake Countries affected: Chile and Argentina 52 km from Salta Province, Argentina ∙ 29 Apr
    Magnitude 6.6 earthquake 48 kms south east of Baracoa region, Cuba – 30 Apr
    Magnitude 5.2 earthquake 117 km from Hachinohe, Aomori, Japan · 30 Apr
    Magnitude 5.4 earthquake Countries affected: Bolivia and Chile 21 km from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile · 30 Apr,
    Magnitude 3.0 earthquake Wyalkatchem, Western Australia ∙ 30 Apr
    Magnitude 5.4 earthquake Countries affected: Bolivia, Chile, Paraguay, and Argentina, 66 km from San Antonio de los Cobres, Salta Province, Argentina ∙ 29 Apr
    Magnitude 5.3 earthquake 1565 km from Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, Russia ∙ 1 May

    So, I did a quick search which showed up: “Seismologists have noticed an increase in high-magnitude, high-impact earthquakes in the last decade:, says Professor Mike Sandiford, a geologist at the University of Melbourne, Australia
    https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/science-environment/2011/03/earthquakes-the-10-biggest-in-history/

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  210. Patagonia Man [AKA "PTG Mann"] says:

    Everyone’s serial sex pest is in the news again …

    1 May 2020, Biden denies sexual assault allegation
    “This is the first time Biden has directly addressed the claims”
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-denies-sexual-assault-allegation/story?id=70449635

  211. bjondo says:

    Bit of a pickle happening. May need some “Big Brain” help.
    Pollen season now. Should be bad. Possible solutions:
    Isolate trees; isolate neighbors/community/state; burn trees.

    Recommendations?

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  212. Patagonia Man [AKA "PTG Mann"] says:

    Meanwhile …

    The hired help of Kunkel, Finkelstein* & Co., Prime Minister Schlomo is emotionally manipulating the Australian people to download a tracing cell phone app of everyone you come into contact with, every moment of the day, every day – so that social distancing and lock-down restrictions can be eased.

    Canberra using a cold beer on a Friday as a guilt trip to download COVIDSafe
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/canberra-using-a-cold-beer-on-a-friday-as-a-guilt-trip-to-download-covidsafe/

    *the names of his two most important staffers. Most US Presidents and UK Prime Ministers have one Zio-minder – Scott Morrison has two!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  213. @bjondo

    Choking till you stop breathing may help.

    1100 BTB’s

  214. bjondo says:

    Palestine Information Center – May 1, 2020

    TUBAS – Hordes of Israeli settlers on Friday raided Palestinian farmlands and assaulted shepherds in Um Rukba area in the northern Jordan Valley.

    Local sources said that dozens of Israeli settlers stormed the area, wreaked havoc on farmlands, attacked Palestinian shepherds and forced them out of their fields.

    Israeli settlers, usually backed by armed forces, regularly attack Palestinian farmers and shepherds in the Jordan Valley and steal parts of their lands to use them for settlement expansion.

    Horde of thieving, foul, smelly squats, burping and farting and spitting, attacking shepherds, grass, goats and trees.

    Yid being Yid is Yid.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
  215. FLgeezer says:
    @bjondo

    >Local sources said that dozens of Israeli settlers stormed the area, wreaked havoc on farmlands,

    And they daily wreak havoc on America’s Federal Budget:

    https://www.complianceweek.com/regulatory-enforcement/bank-hapoalims-bad-day-904m-in-tax-evasion-fifa-fines/28839.article

  216. How can I help support Hezbollah?

  217. Patagonia Man [AKA "PTG Mann"] says:
    @Patagonia Man

    Magnitude 4.6 earthquake Affected countries: British Virgin Islands, Dominica, St Martin, St Maarten, Guadeloupe, Montserrat, Puerto Rico, St Kitts & Nevis, US Virgin Islands, Caribbean Netherlands, St Barthélemy, Antigua & Barbuda, and Anguilla 7 km from Ponce, Puerto Rico · 2 May
    Magnitude 6.6 earthquake Affected countries: Turkey, Egypt, Greece & Libya 90 km from Ierapetra, Greece · 2 May
    Magnitude 5.4 earthquake Affected countries: Turkey, Egypt, Greece & Libya 97 km from Ierapetra, Greece · 2 May
    Magnitude 3.9 earthquake – Muswellbrook, NSW, Australia ∙ 2 May
    Magnitude 5.4 earthquake Affected countries: British Virgin Islands, Dominica, St Martin, St Maarten, Guadeloupe, Montserrat, Puerto Rico, St Kitts & Nevis, US Virgin Islands, Caribbean Netherlands, St Barthélemy, Antigua & Barbuda, and Anguilla 10 km from Ponce, Puerto Rico · 2 May
    Magnitude 5.7 earthquake Affected countries: Brazil, Bolivia & Peru 14km from Lampa, Peru ∙ 3 May
    Magnitude 3.3 earthquake 16 km from Simi Valley, CA, USA ∙ 3 May

  218. bjondo says:

    Who wants the Gates-Fauxci 19 vaccine?

    Believers first.

    5 dancing shlomos

  219. Patagonia Man [AKA "PTG Mann"] says:

    Hell-bent on world domination, what has terrified the Anglo/American-Zionist empire for centuries is the marriage of German capital and technology and Russian resources and manpower (and to drive a wedge between them, was another one of the multiple reasons for WWI).

    Looks like Germany are saying to the Empire: ‘genug ist genug!’ (enough is enough!)

    “Berlin is not planning to respond to any US sanctions placed on the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline despite disagreeing with the US that the involvement in the project poses a threat to NATO.” https://sputniknews.com/europe/202005041079190818-germany-not-planning-to-respond-to-us-sanctions-on-nord-stream-2-gas-pipeline/

  220. Anonymous[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patagonia Man

    Misidentifying people you obsess about as Jewish again? What is your evidence that John Kunkel is Jewish?

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  221. bjondo says:

    Susan HorseShit, CEO of HorseShit Tube,
    has decided questioning horseshit will be banned.

    OK, this is understandable.
    A family loyalty thing.

    Mr HorseShit Gates has decided
    he will make another 100 billion
    by having used-to-be food
    replaced by total horseshit.

    OK, this too is understandable.
    Horseshit pushing horseshit.

    The part of the public fed up with this horseshit disease and the
    coming horseshit food and the horseshit vaccines made from horseshit
    by horseshit vaccinologists will tell/help HorseShit Gates to stick it in his ass.

    Next reality show: Gates, Fauxci, fascist governors, mayors, CEOs,
    media mouthers, keelhauled to Guantanamo, to hang in cages – bat like.
    Forever.

    Their End.

    5 dancing shlomos

  222. Israeli charged with stoning Palestinian mother to death allowed back to West Bank settlement

    An Israeli court district has allowed a young Israeli settler, suspected of killing a Palestinian mother of eight in her car in 2018, to go back to the settlement, Israeli media reported on Sunday.

    The 47-year-old Palestinian, Aisha Mohammed Rabi, died of injuries sustained after Israeli settlers threw stones at her car at a checkpoint near Nablus in the northern West Bank, also injuring her husband.

    While there were multiple suspects in the case, all suspects were later released, with the exception of the unnamed minor, who was indicted for manslaughter after traces of his DNA were found on the stone, according to Haaretz.

    The indicted adolescent, who can’t be publicly named under Israeli law, was released on house arrest in his grandparents’ home.

    Despite objections by state prosecutors, the suspect will be allowed to return to the West Bank settlement he lives in. According to Haaretz, prosecutors feared the suspect’s potential “link up with extremist elements”.

    Although Israeli law allows for the jailing of minors convicted of serious crimes, including manslaughter, the law is used discriminately to jail Palestinian children, while Israelis are allowed to walk free – even if they pose a threat to innocent Palestinians.

    In 2018, shortly after Rabi’s death, Israel suspended the work permits of her husband and brothers, barring them from entering Israeli territories for work, according to Israeli media reports quoted at the time by the official Palestinian news agency WAFA.

    According to Israel’s interior ministry, over 450,000 Israelis live in West Bank settlements, which are considered illegal under international law.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Talha
  223. bjondo says:

    2 comments per UR somewhat constraining.

    5ds

  224. Back to the Coronavirus…

    Part of the problem here is that disproportionately, the ones still all for this horseshit are the media and the political class.

    …and that in turn is a function of economics. They still have their jobs. They still get their paychecks. For them, it’s relatively easy to be all for it, to perceive excellent reasons why it should continue.

    So we could address this part of the problem — at least in theory.

    Suspend their paychecks. All the talking heads at the New York Times can keep blathering away about how we mustn’t lift the lockdown yet.

    …but until it’s lifted, they don’t get paid either.

    It’d be interesting to see if they start singing a different tune in rather short order.

  225. Talha says:
    @AnonStarter

    Salaam, Bro. Just dropped in to say I hope the fasts are going well. Also, I’ve recently fallen in love with the way the Sudanese recite the Qur’an (sounds like they are partial to the transmission of Imam Warsh [ra]).

    Catch you again after Ramadan inshaAllah.

    Wa salaam.

    [MORE]

    Also – subhanAllah, amazing beauty from the Illizi province of Algeria – we are so fortunate that we live in a time where we can at least look upon images of such scenes whereas the people of the past could only have them described.

    • Thanks: AnonStarter
  226. bjondo says:

    Book worth reading, rereading:

    “The Fire This Time: U.S. War Crimes in the Gulf”, Ramsey Clark.

    Judeo-Pagan war crimes, crimes against humanity, crimes against truth,
    crimes, crimes, crimes.

    May H. W. and gang be play things for Orcs.

    5 dancing shlomos

  227. This is mildly comic. I caught this one on the New York Times home page: ‘Travel From New York City Seeded Wave of U.S. Outbreaks’

    Didn’t the Bad Orange Man suggest quarantining New York City a while back? The idea was an outrage, useless, etc, if I recall aright.

  228. Antoniog says:

    Why the mayority of smart people it doent matter indians jews , europeans ….that have this kind of nose end up being very smart?

    https://ibb.co/8rPQ8m1

    It doent fail , a nose like give you at least a 10 iq point advantage

  229. jim jones says:

    Surely there should be a thread celebrating VE Day:

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  230. bjondo says:

    “Herd immunity” from animals to humans like vampire virus.
    Maybe “community immunity” or “population immunity”.
    Leave ‘herd immunity’ for animals like Gates, Fauxci, Newsom.

    Also time to dump “social distancing”.
    Replace with “send ’em into outer space.
    ’em being Gates, Fauxci and the fascist politicons, profiteers.

    5 dancing shlomos

  231. Slightly old news (a little over one week):

    Palestine activists win landmark Supreme Court ruling against UK government

    Since 2017, the PSC has been taking on the government in court with the support of the Quakers, the Campaign Against Arms Trade, and War on Want.

    It won in the High Court and then lost in the Court of Appeal – this week winning a final verdict at the Supreme Court. The PSC challenged that the 2016 guidance imposed a ban on “ethical pensions divestment”, which is unlawful.

    The Supreme Court verdict grants Local Government Pension Scheme (LGPS) funds the right to decide how and where money will be invested.

    Johnson and company are now planning to pass legislation making illegal said divestment from any foreign country, so the battle is far from over.

    Still, a number of recent legal victories over the pond are encouraging, even in the midst of the CV miasma:

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200312-victories-continue-to-mount-against-pro-israel-defamation-campaign/

  232. bjondo says:

    Seems one of Pence’s aides is Gates-Fauxci 19 positive.
    The medically sound decision is immolation to save planet.

    Gates’ contact trackers/bounty hunters
    to be armed with military flame-throwers
    for on-the-spot “medical” purification.

    Could be, “good-bye DC.”

    Bill, Melinda, Baloney Tony, been tested yet?

    5 dancing shlomos

  233. @Anonymous

    Two points:

    1. Prove wrong the substantive issue, i.e., the country-continent of Australia is the latest nation-state to fall under state capture and that its Head of Government, the Prime Minister is himself captured by FOX’s American zionist Rupert Murdoch & his Australian ‘thinktank’ the Institute of Public Affairs.
    2. It doesn’t make me “obsessional” to point out the number of pivotal positions in Western liberal democracies that zionist Jews (as opposed to Messianic Jews/Torah Jews) occupy to control the Anglo-American empire – it makes me observational. It also qualifies me for being a lover of democracy – that’s my passion!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  234. Bold journalism.

    The BBC uncovers a prima facie case of ageist and sexist bias on the part of the British police.

    In the spirit of ‘Black Lives Matter’: ‘The findings come after recent statistics from the National Police Chief’s Council that found a third of those fined by police for breaking lockdown rules were aged 18-24 and eight out of 10 were men.’

  235. @jim jones

    Along with Readers Digest, Newsweek, National Geographic (now owned by American zionist Rupert Murdoch) and CNN – TIME is a well known organ of American propaganda.

    If celebrating VE Day ignores the fact that it was actually the USSR which captured Berlin first – its not worth a minute of our time. Its just more UK-US propaganda. If you’re interested, look into the Phoney War – the first 8 months after NAZI Germany’s invasion of Poland (which he was tricked into) just as Saddam Hussein was tricked into his 1990 invasion of the former Iraqi province, Kuwait. History repeats!

    Also explore the fact that the UK had broken the NAZI’s Enigma Code 6 months after the war started – which begs the question why did WWII drag on for almost 6 years if the UK & US knew NAZI plans in advance? And, as an aside, when Hitler sued Churchill for peace several times (remember Hitler’s 2-I-C, Rudolf Hess jailed after his 10th May 1941 flight to Scotland, where he hoped to arrange peace talks) Churchill was asked why he didn’t accept Hitler’s offers – and he answered [quote] “because we didn’t want to!” But I digress.

    The reason why propaganda (the same lie endlessly repeated) is so incredibly effective in the Western liberal democracies is because Westerners, generally speaking, aren’t expecting it. By contrast, if one is to ask most people from Russia and the former E. European Warsaw Pact countries how much of their ‘news’ do they believe is propaganda, they say “all of it”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  236. Anonymous[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patagonia Man

    OMG! If only you were interesting or knowledgeable enough for me to have thought you were worth the attention I would have noticed that you and PTG Mann are one and the same!

    Same total BS to anyone who knows Australia, it’s politicians, media and its small number of not-very-influential Zionists. (Yes, yes, quite a lot of Jews send their kids to Israel for a year but, come to think of it, it’s probably because it’s the best value gap year going).

    • Troll: Patagonia Man
  237. Anonymous[436] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patagonia Man

    Still keeping up PTG Mann’s standards of accuracy I note. 21st Century Fox’s interest in National Geographic was sold to Disney in May last year.

  238. Your tax dollars at work, fellow Americans:

    40 Palestinian-owned Olive Trees Cut by Israeli Settlers

    Illegal Israeli settlers, on Saturday, cut 40 olive trees belonging to Palestinians in the village of al-Mughayyir, near the city of Ramallah, local sources said.

    Sources told Palestinian WAFA News Agency that the cut trees were the property of two Palestinian villagers from al-Mughayyir, in the central occupied West Bank.

    Israeli soldiers reportedly prevented the two villagers from entering their farm land to inspect the damage to their crops.

    In related news, on Thursday, illegal settlers in the city of Bethlehem, reportedly uprooted hundreds of newly-planted grapevines, south of the city.

    To know how long it takes to grow but one olive tree and just how vital these trees are to the survival of these farmers is to appreciate the inhumanity of these acts. Yet another feather in the cap of Team Zion.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @bjondo
    , @A123
  239. bjondo says:
    @AnonStarter

    Olive trees have long memories.
    Olive trees know the real from the fake.
    Olive trees are an existential threat to the ersatz Hebrew.

    5 dancing shlomos

  240. A123 says:
    @AnonStarter

    NonStarter,

    ROTFL

    Why does America give money to UNRWA for this type deception? Certainly a waste of tax dollars.

    The pictures are archive photos that have been used before. The events never happened. Painfully obvious Taqiyya lies damage what little remains of your credibility.

    Yet another feather in the cap of Team Anti-Christ Muhammad, where failure is celebrated every day.

    PEACE 😷
    _______

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  241. @A123

    Yeah we call it PALLYWOOD. Where they doctor photos to show burnt children. Fake photos and videos of children dying. Yet these phonies never post children dying of starvation in Yemen, caused by Muslims. The are only interested in suffering when they think Jews are involved.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/world/middleeast/yemen-famine-children.html

    85,000 children have starved to death in Yemen. Where is the outrage. Not an olive tree.

    merlin_145626708_b49986c9-e8fc-4581-8c7f-0103a9d8ddcc-superJumbo-1

  242. bjondo says:

    for the Judeo-pagans:

    Israel has a long history of actions against its Christian minority. Israeli forces have desecrated churches, rabbis have endorsed killing non-Jewish civilians (including children), New Testaments have been burned. While there are many Israelis who have opposed these actions and respect Christians**, the fact is that discrimination against Christians is endemic in the Israeli system. Like Muslims, Christians have been persecuted by Israel ever since it was established in 1948…

    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-threatens-to-shut-down-new-tv-channel-for-preaching-gospel-of-jesus/

    **AW just being nice. In U.S. Yid also pretend respectful.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  243. @bjondo

    Thank you for sharing this.

    It’s ironic that most Christian Americans have so little knowledge of the testimony of their Palestinian kindred in faith:

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/bells-would-ring-christmas-palestine-before-occupation

    Despite the simplicity of the holiday celebrations in the past, Victoria says the pureness and real happiness that reigned among Palestinian families at Christmas disappeared after the Nakba, or catastrophe, of 1948,when hundreds of thousands fled or were driven from their lands by Jewish paramilitary groups during the conflict that followed the partition of historic Palestine and led to the creation of Israel.

    “How could we have continued to celebrate after they occupied Palestine?” says Victoria, her voice noticeably firmer.

    “Christmas would pass in silence for years – the families of the village refused to rejoice and give out sweets. We hung black flags on our homes and lived in constant fear of an attack on the village, which became a passageway and shelter for the men who fought against the occupation.” …

    “In Aboud, we continue to cling to our Christmas traditions and the celebrations of the past, yet our happiness is constantly accompanied with anxiety and fear of an Israeli army raid on the village,” she tells MEE. …

    “Today these formalities have decreased, and social visits are more limited to family,” says Saad, explaining that Israel’s occupation has made it difficult, and sometimes impossible, to access family and friends, or even to pray in the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

    “There are Israeli army checkpoints in every corner these days – even at the entrance to our village – they force us to stop, delay and restrict our movements. Life is becoming more constricting every day, and we are losing our will to celebrate the holidays – we feel fearful and anxious all the time,” continues Saad. …

    “Trump’s policies in favour of Israel are legalising the confiscation of the rest of our lands. The future of Palestinians is unknown, but we continue to cling to our search for peace and the liberation of Palestine,” says Saad.

    Jalila Hanna, a 71-year-old mother of 10 and grandmother to 32 children, attended church with her daughter.

    She says Christmas in the past was much merrier. “We celebrated with a sense of safety and security, unlike today,” she tells MEE. …

    “The [Israeli] occupation confiscated a patch of our lands that had over 100 olive trees and gave it to the settlement of Beit Aryeh nearby. We are no longer allowed to access it… we lost all that work we put into the field with a blink of an eye,” she says. …

    During the first years of the 1967 occupation, Atallah was imprisoned and spent five years behind bars.

    “It was no longer my priority to celebrate Christmas. Our joint priority was to struggle and defend our homeland,”he says. …

    “We celebrated Christmas in the past with safety and without anxiety or pressure. With Israel’s occupation and the political situation today, Christmas just does not feel the same as it did,” he continues.

    Further reading:

    ‘The last generation’: How occupation is driving Christians out of Palestine

    Additional resource, including documentary footage:

    Forbidden Pilgrimage

    Every year, Israel draws millions of tourists to the “Holy Land”. They are told a false history of Palestine – one that airbrushes out the Christians and Muslims who have lived there for centuries. …

    “When some Israeli ministers speak, their language is as violent and as racist as [Jewish extremist] attackers.” — ARCHBISHOP ATALLAH HANNAH, ORTHODOX CHURCH OF SEBASTIA

    Israeli tour operators don’t take Christian tourists to some of the most important cities and holy sites of the region – simply to prevent them from seeing the brutal effects of the Israeli occupation. According to some tourists, many Israeli tour guides show a shocking lack of sensitivity when it comes to explaining the conflict. Some tour guides conduct role-playing games, where tourists are given the opportunity to play the role of Israeli soldiers to stage a mock attack on Palestinian “terrorists”.

    Palestinian Christians have been robbed of their land and driven from their homes. They have also suffered attacks on their lives; Jewish extremists, protected by the Israeli government, have attacked Palestinian Christian leaders with bombs, guns and knives. Palestinian Christians’ farmland has been torched – all part of Israel’s ongoing ethnic cleansing campaign against Palestinians.

    • Thanks: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  244. A new, elegantly designed web resource providing details about individual Palestinian villages and towns both prior to and following the Nakba:

    https://today.visualizingpalestine.org/

    Very informative when used in conjunction with the following site:

    https://palopenmaps.org/view

    Definitely worth checking out.

    • Replies: @bjondo
  245. bjondo says:

    Journeyman Pictures interview with Sam Husseini:

    5 dancing shlomos

  246. Lol! The BBC:

    “US risks ‘its darkest winter in modern history.’ “

    People have taken leave of their senses. If you’re on the Left, you signal your dutiful adherence by agreeing the witches are real. If you’re on the rebellious Right, you demonstrate that by refusing to kowtow to the virus.

    It’s such fucking nonsense. Flush toilets aside, we have made absolutely zero progress from the days of witch trials.

  247. @AnonStarter

    I did just eat dinner.

    But there: I should do more to help exterminate Zionism.

    ‘For it is evil things that we shall be fighting…’

  248. Looks as if more European states are growing weary of America’s spoiled daughter:

    EU countries considering sanctions if Israel annexes occupied West Bank

    “Annexation is not in line with international law. If it goes ahead, the EU will act accordingly,” Stano told the European Commission’s daily press briefing on Monday.

    Asked if Israel will be sanctioned by the EU, Stano said the decision was “up to the member states; at this stage, let’s not speculate”.

    EU countries want to approve the planned sanctions as soon as possible to discourage Israel from going forward with its plan, while EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Josep Borrell is inclined to wait, the Haaretz report said.

    France, Spain, Ireland, Sweden, Belgium and Luxembourg are all pushing for tough punishments against Israel if it ignores warnings on the annexation, sources familiar with the discussions told Haaretz.

    Good for them. Well past due.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @A123
    , @Colin Wright
  249. Most of the commentariat here appears to be on the right side of the equation where Israel is concerned, the usual suspects garnering little more than the disdain one would justifiably expect them to.

    As far as I can see, only good can come of it.

  250. A123 says:
    @AnonStarter

    “Annexation is not in line with international law. If it goes ahead, the EU will act accordingly,” Stano told the European Commission’s daily press briefing on Monday.

    NonStarter,

    The unelected EU Commission tried to overthrow democracy in Poland and failed.

    Then, the Commission tried to suppress democracy in Hungary and failed again.

    Why does anyone believe that the EU Commission will be able to overthrow democracy in Israel, when they were unable to suppress democracy in their own backyard?
    _____

    Also, why are weak European leaders like SJW Macron so slow off the mark?

    Both B&W and Likud campaigned on West Bank Normalization and the Rule of Law for over a year.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @Fran Taubman
  251. Emslander says:
    @Hail

    Dr. Witkoski speaks with logic and opposes billions more dollars to drug developers. He has been silenced and is most likely in the basement of some county facility.

    • Replies: @Hail
  252. @AnonStarter

    ‘… France, Spain, Ireland, Sweden, Belgium and Luxembourg are all pushing for tough punishments against Israel if it ignores warnings on the annexation, sources familiar with the discussions told Haaretz.’

    It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.

    On the one hand, we here in the US have been pretty much reduced to serving as Israel’s slaves (we certainly aren’t paid for our services).

    On the other hand, that very fact has contributed to the decline in our power, influence, and moral authority.

    Can we still make Europe toe the line — or in corrupting us, has Israel also rendered us impotent?

    Really, of course, we want Israel to push this. God forbid she realize her error in time to mend her ways.

    Walk right into that tunnel. That light’s not an oncoming train. Trust me…

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  253. @Colin Wright

    Can we still make Europe toe the line — or in corrupting us, has Israel also rendered us impotent?

    Great question. I have a distinct sense that America’s weight is becoming lighter in the balance.

    Really, of course, we want Israel to push this. God forbid she realize her error in time to mend her ways.

    Walk right into that tunnel. That light’s not an oncoming train. Trust me…

    Sure. Let them kvell to their heart’s content. Palestinians could still return to 77% of the territory Israel depopulated and the conscription-averse Haredim are the only Jewish demographic whose numbers show any sign of serious increase.

    Current trajectories are definitely not favorable to them.

    • Replies: @Talha
  254. bjondo says:

    what are all the flags?

    5ds

  255. Hail says: • Website
    @Emslander

    The Wittkowski interview was deleted by Youtube on or about May 6.

    This video has been removed for “violating YouTube’s Terms of Service.”

    I had a feeling this would happen, which is why I spent the time to preserve the comments Wittkowski left under the video . He left dozens of comments, usually replies to viewers/commenters. They were very informative.

    Fortunately for posterity, the Wittkowski updates are integrated into a post on Wittkowski I have up, in the section “Updates from Knut Wittkowski.” The originals are now all lost following the Youtube deletion but you can still find them at my website for reference.

    _________________

    The interview has been rehosted at AIER:

    https://www.aier.org/article/stand-up-for-your-rights-says-bio-statistican-knut-m-wittkowski/ (scroll down)

    Knut Wittkowski comments (May 10) on the deletion of his interview by Youtube:

    the censors have shut you down – no more comments, questions, and attacks. That would be too much democracy.

    And here is Wittkowski announcing the deletion (May 9), after linking to the re-hosted version at AIER:

    They cannot prevent the video from being made available, but they can prevent a discussion (like the one here) from being had. Is that the reason for censoring?

    Someone asks what happened:

    Carlos D — —

    Why the episode 2 has been deleted?

    Wittkowski responds (May 9):

    Truth violates “community standards”.

    ______________

    Note (also @Ron Unz) this is relevant to the Unz Review mission as it is the suppression of an important view (that of an expert in the field with 35 years’ recognized experience); a deliberate suppression campaign by Big Tech and the media.

    (He has also been vilified in the German media and a lawsuit filed against him in German court for supposedly illegal criticism of the government’s Corona strategy. Even in Germany, this lawsuit seems thin. Will they also prosecute SPD member of the Bundestag and of the Council Of Europe, the anti-Corona figure Dr. Wodarg? And the many, many German medical experts who have openly slammed the lockdowns?)

  256. @A123

    This just in from the WSJ A123, and it refutes everything our anti Zionist on this site predict will happen. People think the world is going to step in to help the Palestinians. Well the world is a little tied up right now with bigger fish to fry, then the Israel/ Palestine squabble. The EU cannot even tie its own shoes. Laughable that the Muslims think time is on their side. Time passed them by. There was a time when Arafat (with his Israeli issued private jet) toured the world. Arafat met with Bill Clinton more then any other world leader. He toured Europe round the clock, spoke at the UN. Well those days are gone. Abbas cannot get an invite to MacDonalds for a happy meal. The Palestinians were never after land, peace or statehood they were always after the removal of the Jews from Arabia, well hidden behind their best Taqiya, but when you turn down every offer made the truth of what you really want becomes pretty obvious to the educated.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-palestinians-need-to-make-bold-moves-11589842737?mod=opinion_featst_pos1

    Who is pro Israel today? The sane people of the world that’s who.

    1. The Gulf states are struggling with the oil-price implosion which, together with their rising populations and their fear of Iran, is dramatically curtailing their freedom of action even as their need for allies grows.
    With the U.S. looking to reduce its regional commitments, these circumstances have made Israel a vital strategic ally for the Sunni Arab world. Despite continuing sympathy for the Palestinians, Arab governments cannot escape the reality that for now, and likely for some time to come, the existence of a strong Israel is a pillar of their own independence.

    2.The European Union has long been a focus of Palestinian diplomatic efforts, but Europe is both divided and preoccupied with crises closer to home. Last Friday, Josep Borrell, the EU’s foreign-policy chief, carefully noted that while the EU considers annexations on the West Bank illegal, they aren’t comparable to Russia’s annexation of Crimea. Since the strongest sanctions require unanimous support from EU countries, and both Hungary and the Czech Republic stand ready to veto sanctions on Israel, any EU support for the Palestinians will be limited. As despairing anti-annexation Israeli columnist Gideon Levy writes in Haaretz, if Israel moves toward annexations, “Europe will not stand in its way.”
    Meanwhile, India continues to deepen economic and political ties with Israel. China’s $2 billion investment in the port of Haifa and a Chinese company’s plans to build the world’s largest desalination plant in Israel may annoy China hawks in Washington, but they also demonstrate Beijing’s stake in good relations with Israel.

    3.The Palestinians have always believed that time was on their side: Eventually, the Arab world would grow stronger, and world opinion would isolate Israel. That confidence was misplaced. As Israel has grown into a tech giant and a regional superpower, the Palestinian bargaining position continues to erode.

    • Replies: @A123
  257. Adûnâi says:
    @Hail

    Can you please explain to me why you consider the coronavirus outbreak a hoax? The virus clearly exists, clearly infects people and has killed a inordinate number of people. What are you arguments?

    I myself absolutely despise your derisive American attitude. You are hateful of any government intervention – even if said government is intervening to save the very rotten Christian/LGBT/capitalist system!

    The DPR of Korea is leading the fight, whereas America is dying by its own hand. How predictable.

    The hilarious thing is that I fully support the suicide of the American system. The course was obvious in 1776. It became clear in the 1950s when Americans helped to feed Africa and Latin America instead of laying waste to those continents with nuclear weapons. Christianity fosters irrationality, and it festers and it kills the host eventually.

  258. Speaking as a connoisseur, this ranks as one of the more absurd headlines to come out of this carnival of treasures…

    ‘Schools and Camps Weigh Coronavirus Risks to Kids When Deciding to Reopen.’

  259. @Adûnâi

    ‘… Can you please explain to me why you consider the coronavirus outbreak a hoax? The virus clearly exists, clearly infects people and has killed a inordinate number of people. ‘

    The coronavirus kills a remarkably ordinate number of people, actually…most of whom were about to die of something, anyway.

    I doubt if we could dream up a more innocuous ‘epidemic’ if we tried.

    …people do die, you know. Try to come to terms with that fact.

  260. anon[722] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder if Israel had a hand behind the Corona. Just like they (and their Zionist compradors in the U.S.) were the principle orchestrators of 9/11.

    The whole of the Unz website knows that Israel & Jewish power was behind 9/11.

    There are voluminous material & articles on Unz demonstrating so, and it’s plainly common knowledge for the people on the site — both its authors and its readers. (And plainly common knowledge for a larger body of people, on the left and the right, in the 9/11 Truth movement and beyond.)

    I wonder when Anatoly Karlin is going to address that subject. Everybody else on the site ALREADY does anyways — either tangentially, by implication, or directly.

    How long can Anatoly continue to pretend it doesn’t exist and avoid the topic, I wonder?

    If Anatoly thinks there’s no Jew-clue to the Jew-flu, will he also CONTINUE TO BE a Jew-bag on the truth of the 9/11 false-flag?

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-mossad-assassinations/

    American Pravda: Mossad Assassinations
    The JFK Assassination and the 9/11 Attacks?

    by Ron Unz

    https://www.unz.com/gatzmon/a-viral-pandemic-or-a-crime-scene/

    A Viral Pandemic or A Crime Scene?

    https://www.unz.com/article/911-was-an-israeli-job/

    9/11 Was an Israeli Job – How America was neoconned into World War IV

    https://www.unz.com/article/9-11-truth-under-lockdown-for-nearly-two-decades/

    9/11 Truth: Under Lockdown for Nearly Two Decades

  261. Adûnâi says:
    @Colin Wright

    Then why has everybody in the world reacting to the coronavirus epidemic as to something incredibly dangerous? Are they all in on the conspiracy? You do know that such conspiracies are impossible to organize? This is why conspiracy theorists are all schizo?

    China and the DPRK have taken incredible measures to stop/prevent the spread. Japan has cancelled the Olympic Games. This seems serious. They would never have destroyed their economy and their préstige for nothing.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  262. @Colin Wright

    I am hearing an increasing number of accounts of people dying or recovering but with something like chronic fatigue syndrome or with disabilities from strokes (in young people) resulting from damage to blood vessels. It is very hard to accept your description of it as an “innocuous epidemic.

  263. @Adûnâi

    I don’t dispute your bleak picture of what Christian stupidity (judged by utilitarian measures) is capable of resulting in. Have you any religion? Where are you coming from? It would be interesting to know.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  264. A123 says:
    @Fran Taubman

    You are correct.

    The Muslim occupation of Judea and Samaria gets weaker every day. Normalization of the Rule of Law in the West Bank is inevitable and desirable.
    _____

    Two local voices attempted to come out strongly against the Rule of Law in Judea and Samaria. (1)

    Jordan’s king warned Israel of a “massive conflict” if it proceeds with plans to annex large parts of the occupied West Bank, as European Union foreign ministers met Friday to discuss what action the bloc might take in response to such a move.

    “What would happen if the Palestinian National Authority collapsed? There would be more chaos and extremism in the region. If Israel really annexed the West Bank in July, it would lead to a massive conflict with the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan,” he said.

    However, the Jordanian threat is not credible. Ending the treaty would terminate the Hashimite Waqif’s occupation of the Temple Mount. Jordan would give Israel an epic victory.
    _____

    The other protester is Abbas who is in the 15th year of his 4 year term in office. (2)

    The Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas, has declared an end to security cooperation

    … what it would mean for Palestinian movement around the West Bank between parts entirely administered by the PA (Area A), jointly run areas (B) and Israeli settlement zones (Area C).

    “What does it mean on the ground for PA security who – even to travel from area B to area B, through Area C – have to get permission from the Israeli army. Does that mean that if everything is frozen, that PA security can’t access certain parts of Area B,” asked Khaled Elgindy, a senior fellow at the Middle East Institute in Washington.

    When The Guardian is pointing out the problems with Abbas provocations, one knows how weak the threat is. Typicially, this is the first paper to back almost any Muslim initiative to destabilize Isreal.
    ______

    The rest of the Muslim world is moving into more important issues. The unsolvable problem of a tiny sliver of land occupied by Islamic obstructionists no longer has relevance.

    PEACE 😷
    _______

    (1) https://news.yahoo.com/jordan-warns-israel-massive-conflict-162455952.html

    (2) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/20/palestinian-leader-mahmoud-abbas-ends-security-agreement-with-israel-and-us

  265. Hail says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    The coronavirus kills a remarkably ordinate number of people, actually…most of whom were about to die of something, anyway.

    Share of total corona-positive deaths by birth cohort, Sweden
    (n=3,678 at time of calculation, three days ago)

    b.1920s, about 24.5% of deaths (incl. a small few b.1910s centenarians)
    b.1930s, about 41.5% of deaths
    b.1940s, about 22.5%
    b.1950s, about 7%
    b.1960s, about 3%
    b.1970s, about 1%
    b.1980s, about 0.3%
    b.1990s, exactly 0%
    b.2000s, exactly 0%
    b.2010s, exactly 0%.

    Zero deaths so far to anyone born in 1990 or later. The death profile here looks, if anything, older than those who die normally of all causes. Very few of these should be legitimately seen as “deaths of a healthy person with decades of good life left.”

    These are Swedes, so have been living a lightly modified regular existence without the insane lockdowns. All those b.2000s and b.2010s children have been attending school. Zero deaths to children, not even a fluke case of a child with cancer or anything. Pactically zero deaths to anyone of early to mid working age; few deaths to those of older working age; 91% of the corona-positive deaths to those of retirement age, a lion’s share of whom could be called deathbed patients to begin with (e.g., half of deaths were nursing home patients).

    I doubt if we could dream up a more innocuous ‘epidemic’ if we tried.

    On the facts, definitely.

    But I do believe all the signs of a virus-centered religious cult are now with us. If a religious cult breaks through and become “state religions,” the effects are real. Even when there is nothing behind the veil (as with Corona).

  266. Hail says: • Website
    @Adûnâi

    See my reply to Colin Wright directly above.

    I also responded at my website:

    Can you please explain to me why you consider the coronavirus outbreak a hoax?

    Because it is nothing unusually alarming.

    It is one of the usual peak-flu events seen several times a decade. Does not justify the shutdowns/lockdowns. Does not justify an elaborate religious cult set up around it enforced by the power of the state.

    I invite you to look at…“Just the Flu Vindicated by the Data” on the technical details of Corona (some of the data there is now a month old, but all basically holds) and why the reaction has been hysterical. If the word “hoax” applies, it is to CoronaPanic-pushers who know these things, know it is in the flu range, but still push it for their own reasons, whatever they are.

    The rest of your comment is a series of ad-hominems unworthy of response.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  267. Adûnâi says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    > “I don’t dispute your bleak picture of what Christian stupidity (judged by utilitarian measures) is capable of resulting in. Have you any religion? Where are you coming from? It would be interesting to know.”

    I’m Little Russian. I have always been an atheist. Since my teens, I have understood that the only way not to commit suicide is being racist. What is the point of anything else if it means collective suicide?

    And what is racism? It is a passive-aggressive defence and hatred of all foreigners outside the borders, and all foreign influences inside the borders.

    This is why I consider Aryan countries cucked. They did not murder foreigners when they had the chance in the 1880s-1920s. Instead, they chose to murder one another as if possessed by an animus of madness. And in modern times – Poland is paying the US to station their Negroes inside Poland, Ukraine sold out her chance to be a nuclear power… This is not geopolitics. This is betrayal and death by our own hand. How else could the USSR fall without a shot fired? Hitler did not foresee it.

    This is why I put my hope into Juche Korea. Who else can assume the place of the Aryan? Not the Saudis with their lack of history. Not the Negrified Egyptians. Not the confused Turks. Not the Persians with the baggage of Islam. The DPRK is the ideal country.

    It is funny to think that in the 2000s, that clown US president Bush designated Kimjongilia as something akin to Iraq. Juche is on another level! Kim Jong Il did not play games! – Unlike those poor Gaddafi and Saddam. And unlike the moronic Iranians (who are licking mosques and blowing up their own planes/ships these days).

  268. The only man ever convicted in a US court for a role in the Sept. 11 false flag, French citizen Zacarias Moussaoui, has revealed he’s renounced terrorism, al-Qaeda and Daesh.

    “I denounce, repudiate Usama bin Laden as a useful idiot of the CIA/Saudi. I also proclaim unequivocally my opposition to any terrorist action, attack, propaganda against the US,” Moussaoui wrote in a court motion filed with a Federal Court in Alexandria, Virginia, last month.

    Moussaoui added that he wants to “to warn young Muslim[s] against the deception and the manipulation of these fake Jihadis.” [emphasis mine]

    https://www.wfmj.com/story/42153080/sept-11-convict-now-says-he-renounces-terrorism-bin-laden

    The irony is, Moussaoui himself, is a “useful idiot” if he still doesn’t know OBL was killed in 1999, as most people in the Indian subcontinent know via former Pakistani Presidential candidate Benazir Bhutto, who was assassinated in 2007 – 3 months after giving the interview to UK’s David Frost.

    For those who can read between the lines: If we could still watch the vid now long gone down the ‘memory hole’, what is significant is after Bhutto makes the revelation, Frost does not follow up with either a question or a remark. At the time, OBL was still the world’s most wanted suspect, if you can recall?

  269. @Colin Wright

    In addition, there’s another six ways we know with certainty SARS-CoV2 is a pretext / false flag:-
    1. On 20 May 2019, Trump said so himself: Donald Trump says China won’t overtake US economy under his watch

    “President Donald Trump said he was “very happy” with the trade war and that China wouldn’t become the world’s top superpower under his watch.

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/donald-trump-says-china-wont-overtake-us-economy-under-his-watch/articleshow/69418379.cms

    2. Zero government heads have rolled – so, therefore, it cannot be incompetence. Compare 9/11 when no heads rolled, even though the most sophisticated air defense system in the world was switched off for 1 hour with 3 hijacked planes in the sky (reportedly at the command of Cheney). See the Timeline.

    3, The ubiquitous media messaging: almost every single news item on every TV network’s news bulletin, text messages from telecommunications corporations, ‘alerts’ under every Youtube vid, government advertising, etc.
    REMINDER: The reason why propaganda (the same lie endlessly repeated) is so, so effective in the West, is because people who live in the West aren’t expecting it.

    4. The deliberate misreporting of data, e.g, the TV news bulletins give the no. of infections and the no. of deaths – they don’t give:
    1. the no. of deaths as a percentage of the no. of infections, nor
    2. the no. of infections as a percentage of the no. of tests conducted, nor
    3. the no. of infections as a percentage of each country’s population

    5. Disinformation is intentionally fed into the 24/7 media cycle partly to keep people arguing about the ‘how’ the outbreak occurred rather than the ‘why’ it occurred and partly to accelerate the polarization of society, i.e., so Dems and Reps don’t talk to each other &/or libertarians/liberals/progressives and conservatives don’t talk to each other. Ever heard of divide et impera , divide and conquer?

    6. There’s so many other far worse illnesses which afflict people every year, e.g., pneumonia kills ~2,560,000 people p.a.

  270. @Adûnâi

    ‘Then why has everybody in the world reacting to the coronavirus epidemic as to something incredibly dangerous? Are they all in on the conspiracy?’

    I never said it was a conspiracy. More of a collective psychosis — sort of the Salem Witch Trials on a global scale.

    It’s very interesting. Perhaps it’s exposing the structural flaws in our culture: the compulsion of the media to engage in sensationalism, the need politicians feel to virtue-signal. Is that all there is to it, or is there something more?

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Adûnâi
  271. Hail says: • Website
    @Colin Wright

    Perhaps it’s exposing the structural flaws in our culture: the compulsion of the media to engage in sensationalism, the need politicians feel to virtue-signal. Is that all there is to it, or is there something more?

    I invite anyone reading this to ask him- or herself a very simple question.

    Down through the ages, how do you think new “religions” ever come to emerge? Or, because religion is such a weighty word, call it a new “religious current.” (Or ‘cult,’ in the anthropologist’s sense). How is it that a new one emerges, breaks through?

    A lot could be, and has been (I’m sure), written on the matter. A fascinating area to ponder. I’ve become convinced that this is the relevant question to ask to start on the path to “understanding Corona.”

    Our analytical ability here is greatly constrained because we think we recognize religions when we see them. But what if we don’t? What if no one ever does?

  272. Adûnâi says:
    @Colin Wright

    > ” Perhaps it’s exposing the structural flaws in our culture: the compulsion of the media to engage in sensationalism, the need politicians feel to virtue-signal. Is that all there is to it, or is there something more?”

    What our culture? There is no our culture. There is no humanity, but disparate regions. Can you read Arabic or Hindi or Malayalam? Those people live in different worlds. They don’t care about 9/11 or about the Constitution or about government surveillance or about the English language. They do get some scraps, some sparks from the great memetic anvil that is America, but they’re minor and disjointed. Hungary got evil Soros. The Philippines got evil Gates. That’s about it.

    (I heard from a Czech YouTuber once years ago that at one point, Czech kids had a meme saying “neydlit” to one another IRL – coming from the English “nailed it”. The Iron Curtain is still there – at least for those in Eastern Europe who have not emigrated to clean toilets in London.)

    Why would every nation in the world be complacent in keeping up the ruse? And every doctor, too? Why would the DPRK proclaim so proudly they are fighting a nothingburger? Those folks are tough. Their news agencies celebrate the spread of potato farina as a good dish in the country – because you see, potatoes grow better than rice.

    Big efforts have been directed to making dishes with potato farina produced by the Samjiyon Potato Farina Production Factory in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. […]

    Meanwhile, media introduces nutritive value of potato farina and dishes made of it.

    https://exploredprk.com/news/dishes-made-of-potato-farina-encouraged-in-dprk/

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  273. @Adûnâi

    ‘…Why would every nation in the world be complacent in keeping up the ruse? ‘

    Now woah there, Bessie. Who — other than yourself — ever called it a ‘ruse’?

    This is of a piece with your implying I said it was a conspiracy. You persist in attributing theories to me I never advanced — and then triumphantly demolishing them.

    Knock yourself out — but it’s nothing to do with me.

    • Replies: @Adûnâi
  274. Talha says:
    @AnonStarter

    Have you seen this? 🤔
    “THE FORMATION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT CANON (A.D. 100-220)

    The idea of a complete and clear-cut canon of the New Testament existing from the beginning, that is from Apostolic times, has no foundation in history.”
    https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/canon-of-the-new-testament-12201

    Wa salaam.

  275. RSDB says:
    @Talha

    Yes, of course, in Apostolic times the NT was still being written and in no way could have been regarded as “clear-cut”.

    • Thanks: Talha
  276. Adûnâi says:
    @Colin Wright

    > “Now woah there, Bessie. Who — other than yourself — ever called it a ‘ruse’? ”

    A ruse in that people perceive the corona as dangerous when it is not. Then why can’t a country ignore it and reap the benefits? It is clearly easier to do nothing.

    Obviously, there are benefits in fighting the not-dangerous-corona (when nobody knows it is not dangerous). The DPRK can get more people’s support. The US can enact tighter surveillance laws.

    Are the Swedish rulers so uniquely benign, they don’t want more crack down on the Islamophobes? Or is Sweden gone thoroughly enough anyway?

    But is it worth it in the end? If the corona is not dangerous, it will become known in the end, and then it will be awkward. The Juche élite is not stupid. Are the Chinese stupid to ruin their entire economy over this? Or is this the Chinese-Korean plan to bring down capitalism by sowing panic in the Wall Street and crashing capitalism down? That would be glory incarnate.

    Oy vey, the Hindus know!

  277. @Talha

    That’s very old news. The New Testament is basically a ‘Greatest Hits’ album compiled (and remastered) from some unknown number of various competing and contradictory gospels. It all had to be fitted together and made as internally consistent as possible. Anything too outrageously deviant just got chucked.

    • Replies: @Talha
  278. We continue to move forward into a future where — at last! — everyone will be properly supervised.

    ‘Zuckerberg: Facebook to ‘take down’ coronavirus misinformation
    Facebook’s founder Mark Zuckerberg tells the BBC’s Simon Jack how his social network is responding to the challenge posed by the coronavirus crisis.’

  279. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    I guess I had never come across an official statement like that before. The more I study this, the more I find the New Testament is far closer to our hadith collections (but without chains of transmission that can be scrutinized/evaluated) that also had to be sifted over many, many decades (and even centuries) to toss out or evaluate items for weakness or incoherency or as outright forgeries – a process of authentication that continues to this day.

    Peace.

    • Agree: Adûnâi
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  280. We need to explore the full implications of this: Saying NO to the militarization of space (29:23)

    “Professor Karl Grossman, a professor of journalism at the State University of New York, College at Old Westbury and the host of a nationally aired TV program focused on environmental, energy, and space issues, and Bruce Gagnon, coordinator of the Global Network Against Weapons & Nuclear Power in Space and a contributor to Foreign Policy In Focus” are interviewed.
    https://www.spreaker.com/user/radiosputnik/saying-no-to-the-militarization-of-space_44

    • Thanks: Talha
  281. @Talha

    Agreed. And several further points:

    1. The Gospels were written 40 – 80 A.D. – i.e., 10 – 50 years after the Crucifixion & Resurrection – (which raises the problem of accurate memories);

    2. It’s fairly well accepted that some of the Jesus teachings were well known aphorisms which abounded at the time – and some of the sayings he did say are not in there;

    3. The Bible has been heavily edited – probably the best known example is the removal of all references to reincarnation by Constantine and wife when he decided to make Christianity the state religion in 325 AD (Constantine , by the way was not a very nice man);

    4. There’s a growing ‘body of thought’ (allow me just to use that expression) that Celtic Christianity (which maintained a belief in reincarnation, btw) actually preceded Roman Catholicism, that is to say, that Celtic Christianity sits in the House of John (the Apostle) and Roman Catholicism sits in the House of Peter;

    5. There’s also a growing ‘body of thought’ that it was actually the Roman Church which removed itself from the Mother Church, ie.e Universal Church , by its insistence on defining terms. I point to Paul who wrote the Letter to The Romans in Greek – not Latin, indicating that it was actullay Greek that was the lingua franca of the Empire back in the day.

    6. English Protestantism was tipped into heresy by Thomas Cranmer, Henry VIII’s Advisor. You can read this for yourself in the Edwardine Ordinal in the Book of Common Prayer.

    7. Lastly, since the 1958 coup d’etat in The Vatican with the passing of Pius XII, the Roman Church has been playing traditional Catholics as idiots since then. To celebrate the Tridentine Mass (aka the Traditional Latin Mass, Usus Antiquior) one now has to seek out a SPPX (or F-SSPX) Church.

    Peace be with you.

    • Thanks: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
  282. @Talha

    ‘I guess I had never come across an official statement like that before. The more I study this, the more I find the New Testament is far closer to our hadith collections (but without chains of transmission that can be scrutinized/evaluated) that also had to be sifted over many, many decades (and even centuries) to toss out or evaluate items for weakness or incoherency or as outright forgeries – a process of authentication that continues to this day.’

    This is a more or less uninformed thought, but I’d emphasize the impact of one major difference between the historical trajectories of Islam and Christianity.

    Islam secured political dominance over at least a modest territory very quickly — within the lifetime of Mohammed. It was therefore able to collate and define its canon promptly and coherently.

    It wasn’t until three hundred years after Jesus’ death that Christianity was even officially tolerated. While the extent to which Christians were persecuted tends to be exaggerated, it nevertheless existed for literally centuries as a more or less subterranean and localized — and therefore incoherent — faith. Needless to say, there were soon multiple competing versions of ‘Christianity’ floating around.

    It would be comparable say, to the dogma of Stalinism versus that of the Ku Klux Klan. Stalinism is very clear: there was one version of it, and it was clearly set forth. The meaning and practice of the KKK is probably roughly as diverse as the number of members. There’s never been any one universally recognized figure defining what is and what isn’t Klanism.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @AnonStarter
  283. @Talha

    Getting to this just now …

    Yes, I’ve been aware of it for some time. I’d also agree with Patagonia Man’s second point concerning the absence of Jesus’s words from the canonical New Testament.

    While containing many falsehoods, The Gospel of Barnabas nevertheless “contains sermons, parables, and conversation immediately recognizable as Jesus’s words, as well as a literary portrait of Jesus only dimly seen in the canonical New Testament.”

    Of course, it’s considered apocryphal throughout the contemporary Christian world, but this shouldn’t serve as a deterrent to exploring it, as it bears the potential to significant broaden one’s perspective of Jesus ‘alaihis-salaam.

    was-salaam.

  284. Talha says:
    @Patagonia Man

    Would love to see any academic references you have on that interesting point you brought up about strains of reincarnation belief in earlier teachings.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  285. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Islam secured political dominance over at least a modest territory very quickly — within the lifetime of Mohammed. It was therefore able to collate and define its canon promptly and coherently.

    Correct. Muslims weren’t at the mercy of having books burned and religious teachers killed at the hands of an annoyed empire. And of course there was Julian the Apostate.

    The equivalent would have been if the early Christians fought the Romans to defeat, took over the Judea with a base in Jerusalem and Peter was in charge of the entire expanding enterprise and put James the Just in charge of a committee consolidating the text under an officially approved version. And then it was sent out to the provinces as the other disciples were leading armies crushing Rome and Persia wherever they went.

    Peace.

  286. @Talha

    Hello Talha. Always good to hear from you in your well-considered comments. Hope you are well in these challenging times.

    You post raises the very interesting question how early Christianity was able to spread rapidly with no army and little infrastructure (though it had access to Roman roads and ships).

    I believe the essential answer is the Third Person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit. The Gospel spread like a wild fire carried by the wind. The good news of rebirth in the Risen Lord and a new Spirit in the Spirit of God Himself quickened the yearning for Him. The example of love and convicting Power of the Word converted many.

    Salespeople say the best advertsing is word of mouth. This, and personal example, were the main venues for the early Christian. But this was no advertising. It was the power of God Himself, His Spirit and love, that took the Gospel from Israel to Africa, Asia, and Europe. No television, no internet, no troops necessary. Just God, the Word, and a loving people.

    In later centuries, much of Christianity became a false Christ, a white horse, which “went out conquering and to conquer.” Rev. 6:2 They claimed Christian Exceptionalism. The Gospel of humility and love was now forfeit to worldly interests. Let the modern churches reclaim their early faith with love, and they, like Lazarus, might yet rise from the dead.

    Be well.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Talha
  287. @SeekerofthePresence

    ‘…But this was no advertising. It was the power of God Himself, His Spirit and love, that took the Gospel from Israel to Africa, Asia, and Europe…’

    Palestine. Until 1948, ‘Israel’ was primarily a theological concept or a label for the community of believers, not a geographical place.

    As I recall, Philo of Alexandria, for example, was quite sure he was part of Israel right where he was. He didn’t feel any need to mosey on over to Palestine to bring that about.

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  288. @Talha

    ‘…The equivalent would have been if the early Christians fought the Romans to defeat, took over the Judea with a base in Jerusalem and Peter was in charge of the entire expanding enterprise and put James the Just in charge of a committee consolidating the text under an officially approved version. And then it was sent out to the provinces as the other disciples were leading armies crushing Rome and Persia wherever they went.’

    Indeed. In fact, if Christians and Muslims realized to what extent the differences between their faiths were a matter of historical contingency and instead focused on their common IslamoChristian heritage, perhaps they could focus on the threat posed to them both by Zionist Judaism…

    …wait, I seem to have gotten something backwards there…

  289. Not that it matters, the presumptive Democrat nominee 78 y.o. serial sex pest Joe Biden condemned the pro-Palestinian boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement on his campaign website.
    https://joebiden.com/joe-biden-and-the-jewish-community-a-record-and-a-plan-of-friendship-support-and-action/

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  290. Art says:

    Christianity as given to us by Jesus Christ, is people centered – not God centered. Jesus commands we humans “to love God with all our heart, soul, and mind.” That is the first commandment. We are to love God – not beg God to love us. We love God by respecting the ways of His universe. His universe allows good and bad things to happen. Jesus goes on and talks about how we can organize ourselves for good things to occur.

    The second commandment is “to love our neighbor, as we love ourselves.” We are to use our heart, soul, and mind to love each other in the same way we love ourselves. This is a center out people to people command. We love ourselves when we do things that will extend our future. We love our neighbor as we love ourselves, by mutually doing things that extend the future of both. This is the bedrock of an idealistic people to people philosophy for living.

    All organization in the universe is formed from the center outwards. Not from the top down. Not from God down. If we want life sustaining organization around us – we must do it ourselves. It is NOT up to God. The ideals of Christianity are these, live with hope, respect life, seek truth, forgive the past, extend grace to all.

    The miracle of idealism is that we do not have to achieve these ideals every time for progress to advance.

  291. @Patagonia Man

    ‘Not that it matters, the presumptive Democrat nominee 78 y.o. serial sex pest Joe Biden condemned the pro-Palestinian boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement on his campaign website.’

    That’s why he’s the presumptive nominee. Kamala Harris has also expressed her Israel-wuv, so my guess is she’ll get the nod for the VP nomination. She’s ‘black,’ she’s a woman, she loves Israel. What else matters?

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  292. Realist says:

    The seeds of America’s demise were planted before it’s beginning…bringing blacks to this continent.

    One of the best articles I have read on the internet.

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/05/23/the-end-of-american-empire/

  293. @Talha

    Look into the work of Edgar Cayce, known as America’s sleeping prophet. Cayce was a very devout man – reading the Bible every year of his adult life.

    He was persecuted by the PTB and when he went to court the US media published a photo of him, his wife and his female secretary walking down the steps of the court house, but they cropped his wife out of the photo – to give the false impression to the American people that he was having an extramarital affair with his secretary.

    Anyone who is castigated, harangued, persecuted, ostracized by the Cabal has to have something subversive to say about the matrix most people live within.

    • Thanks: Talha
  294. @Colin Wright

    Agreed. It’s a one party system, the corporations’ party – with two wings.

  295. @Colin Wright

    Agreed.

    This is the tragedy of the Mideast – some people think they’re fighting over a block of real estate on the Mediterranean, whereas the true meaning of the term ‘Israel’ was to refer to a body of followers/ believers.

    Of course, from the perspective of zionism (a political movement, not a religion) its all about: • achieving geopolitical dominance and hence controlling global trade by controlling the choke point of the Suez Canal
    • balkanizing the zionist entity’s regional threats (see the 1996, A Clean Break – a New Strategy for Securing the Realm) and
    • taking control of the regions oil reserves – probably with the added benefit of, at least attempting, cornering the world’s oil market.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  296. @Commentator Mike

    You don’t notice anything amiss there?

    I do and have added “Fran” to my small ignore list.

  297. Talha says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Salespeople say the best advertsing is word of mouth. This, and personal example, were the main venues for the early Christian

    100% agree with you here. There is little doubt in my mind that, before the religion went imperial, the early Christians were bringing something that was better for the society at large and the many of the masses could see this. It was a superior calling that the paganism they were living with and the Christians proved it by sincerity and personal example.

    All of this was due to the blessed teachings of our liege, the Son of Mary (as) and the example he expounded. The Qur’an says of his early followers, that God placed placed compassion and mercy in their hearts.

    It was a great accomplishment; one of the very few such in recorded history where the low and persecuted win over those over them by spirit and character.

    Let the modern churches reclaim their early faith with love, and they, like Lazarus, might yet rise from the dead.

    It would certainly be a welcome sight if Christians once again stood firm on the principle of:
    “And be not conformed to this world…”

    Be well.

    You too.

    Peace.

  298. Talha says:

    When you’ve got plenty of money, but are too cheap to hire a translator and simply run everything through Google.

    I give you…beans, gentlemen!

    Peace.

    • LOL: Patagonia Man
  299. The following is not to be read in any way as an endorsement of the career criminal Killary going back to the days of when she was First Lady of Arkansas and made $100,000 in 10 months from trading in cattle futures.

    So this explains how he’s been able to get away with what he has and leaves him open to blackmail, that’s if bribery doesn’t cut it.

    Donald Trump wanted to build a casino in Sydney, Australia 3 decades ago, but the plan was rejected due to ‘Trump’s mafia connections’, declassified NSW Government Cabinet papers reveal:

    Source document: The First Casino Tender – Cabinet Minute No. 148-87 (pp. 72-105) During 1987, Cabinet considered tenders for the establishment of Sydney’s first casino.
    https://www.paperturn-view.com/nsw-state-archives/4-may-1987-cabinet-meeting-papers-2-of-2?pid=MTU15408

    This was reported after the 2016 US Presidential Election here:
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/09/06/trumps-mafia-connections-excluded-him-from-an-australian-casino-deal_a_23199578/

    … and here:

    “In 1987, Trump and the Kern Corporation [now delisted] were one of 4 bidders for the tender of a casino earmarked for Sydney’s Darling Harbour (sic)”
    https://www.casino.org/news/trump-bid-operate-sydney-casino-killed-alleged-mafia-connections/

    … and here:

    Trump’s résumé is rife with mob connections
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/are-trumps-mob-connections-a-coincidence-fuhgeddaboudit/2018/08/10/24b62e2c-9cad-11e8-843b-36e177f3081c_story.html

    … and when Mother Jones was still a reputable online media outlet:
    “The damning assessment by Australian officials looking into Trump’s Sydney casino bid in 1987. It turns out Sydney dodged a bullet.”
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/08/report-queasy-aussies-killed-trumps-casino-bid-over-mafia-connections/

    • Replies: @anon
  300. George says:

    Sky News Australia
    EXCLUSIVE:
    Best theory yet supporting a laboratory origin of Covid

    Coronavirus may have been a ‘cell-culture experiment’ gone wrong

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Patagonia Man
  301. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @George

    Sound not available.
    Does the video explain why/how so many Iranian leaders have been targeted?

  302. @George

    SKYNEWS Australia is owned by zionist Rupert Murdoch. He’ll be spinning the US ‘story’.

    Even the presenter is zionist.

    The absolute last place you’d go if looking for the facts of the matter is Sky. Its like going to FOX News in the US.

  303. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Insanity from the corrupt, criminally insane:

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html

    Guantanamize these people.

  304. For those contributors interested in joining the dots (rather than seeing each individual event in isolation) …

    More evidence that the SARS-CoV2 outbreak was a bioweapon attack on China as part of a larger scheme of Hybrid Warfare:

    UK looking to backtrack on Huawei participation in 5G networks: Report Chris Duckett, 25 May 2020.

    “Reports out of London over the weekend said the UK Government is set to backtrack on its January decision to permit the involvement of Huawei in the nation’s 5G networks.”

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/uk-looking-to-backtrack-on-huawei-participation-in-5g-networks-report/

    Its the timing, people, the timing!

  305. @Colin Wright

    Islam secured political dominance over at least a modest territory very quickly — within the lifetime of Mohammed. It was therefore able to collate and define its canon promptly and coherently.

    In general, I do not disagree with what you’ve written, though I felt these quoted statements could use some clarification.

    The Qur’an was committed to memory by hundreds of Muslims within his lifetime, well before it was compiled in written form (during the administration of Uthman). It is no exaggeration to state that, to this day, young children are able to commit every letter of it to memory with ease, unlike any other text they might encounter. Contrary to contemporary standards of textual verification, Islam’s oral tradition served as the criterion by which Uthman’s Qur’an was later checked for authenticity.

    As for ahaddith — sayings/actions attributed to the Prophet — there remain competing views that are not so easily explained along Sunni-Shia’ fault lines. Reliable reports from the Sunni milieu inform us that the first successors to the Prophet destroyed their written collection of ahaddith. Given the challenges that invariably arose as a consequence of reliance strictly upon the written medium, it is not difficult to understand the wisdom of such action.

    Let there be no misunderstanding: the sunnah — habits — of the Prophet remain integral to the practice of Islam, and those successors faithfully emulated them to the best of their ability, but the original criterion for transmission of the sunnah was oral, not written. This is what the successors knew and it is among the “lost” customs of faithfully transmitting knowledge; today, but a handful know it.

    Other than The Qur’an itself, the “canon” of which you speak appeared in the form we currently identify more than two centuries after the worldly passing of the Prophet, and was subject to a variety of political vicissitudes that unquestionably affected the final result. This is why many Muslims continue to assert that ‘Aisha was six when betrothed to the Prophet and nine when her marriage was consummated in spite of analysis that undermines the purported authority of the haddith containing this information.

    As per Christianity, there is no evidence that Jesus ordered his disciples to record anything of what he said, and this would make sense, since a close reading of Scripture allows us to understand that his mission was restricted to the “lost sheep of the House of Israel,” and no other people. The “Good News” (Gospel) was theirs to bring to the nations other than their own, which is exactly what the faithful among them endeavored to do and why they went to Tema (Medina) in anticipation of its fulfillment. There wasn’t any other point to Jesus’s mission.

    The first “competing” version of Christianity was that of Paul, who militated against the faith of the earliest followers of Jesus. Once the Pauline vision gained ascendancy, the matter was more or less decided for Rome.

  306. Black partay days…

    We’ve taught an entire population that it’s okay to loot, and in Minneapolis, we see the results.

    I especially like the looter dangling his ‘black lives matter’ sign.

    It wouldn’t be necessary otherwise, but now we’ve got to correct this misunderstanding — and without infringing on the freedom the rest of us quite reasonably enjoy.

    To start with, I recommend a hundred black teenagers summarily seized and hung from lamp posts throughout the black community in Minneapolis, with placards around their necks saying ‘I stole.’

    That should help the group to get back on the right path.

    …or how long were we planning to put up with this shit?

  307. Usura says:

    Dear Ron,

    I noticed this on a recent comment from another user:

    “[Comments with too many spelling typos may get trashed.]”

    As I’m sure you’re aware, deliberate misspelling and grammatical errors are ways of anonymizing one’s speech and making style recognition more difficult. The below post is still easily readable, and makes a relevant and cogent point; I think it’s pretty clear it was written normally, and then gone back over to induce mistakes, many of them simple letter deletions. If you are using an algorithm to moderate comments, I hope this can be taken into account, so that posters like this are still allowed to participate.

    There is no point in protesting Jewish attitudes toward speech. they simply don’t bleive in it.
    About 15 years ago I was watchng feminsit Gloria steinhem interviewed. I was a liberal at that tine but her answers to wueastions were deliveed with such arrogance and obvius contempt for anyone who disgreed with her. I began looking for a word which woud succinctly describe her attitude. Authoritarian, totralitarian? they did’t seem to work. Many years later I betna reading in t he real history of Russia and who actually coducted rhe “Revoklutioh” – actually a coup. then it occurred to me how I wuld have characterized Steinehem if I had known soe reeal history : Bolshevick. the peole we are dealing withnow gave th4e Russiand Boshevism. tehy wll brig it here

  308. Art says:

    The evil Jewish State taught the Minnesota police how to subdue and kill!

    Get the Jewish State out of America!

  309. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    (((NYT’s Blow, approx 9:20))) and Chit Not News (Lemon and Cuomo, approx 10:30 mark) fanning flames:

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-inconvenient-facts-threaten-the-racism-scams-our-leaders-and-media-are-working

    • Replies: @anon
  310. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Something strange goin’ on here,
    what it is becoming clear.

    Really Graceful, Cui Bono:

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/8Ww7hpRqWyk/

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Patagonia Man
  311. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Wonderful Soph/Lt Corbis.

    Time Machine:

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  312. …and things take on a comic tinge:

    ‘George Floyd death: Zimbabwe summons US envoy’

  313. @anon

    Grace’s point of [quote] “orchestrated chaos” is a really pertinent one. My tip is, if curfews are imposed, 5 months out from the 2020 Election, Martial Law will follow. Remember Kissinger’s “Never let a good crisis go to waste”.

    If Martial Law is imposed and if the Election is suspended, its useful to recall author of 1984 George Orwell’s quote:

    “One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.”

  314. @anon

    @anon 327

    Yup – an excellent exposé of what is called Pluto-Populism.

  315. Looking ahead.

    When we’ve worked through this — when the media gets bored and starts telling blacks to give it a rest instead of egging them on — are we going to look at which reporters and news organizations most shamelessly incited this nightmare?

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  316. @Colin Wright

    What can you do about it?

    Even if found to have presented fake news/ unsubstantiated rumor or incited violence – they’ll be fired, only to pop up again somewhere else.

  317. The media comes up with something!

    People should stop looting and attacking random white people because, because…

    it’ll cause a resurgence of the Coronavirus!

    Do a search. ‘George Floyd Coronavirus.’ They’re all bleating about it at once.

    It’s unbelievably feeble.

  318. The Lancet ‘hit piece’ on Hcq is starting to look dubious.

    A medical journal is concerned about validity of the influential hydroxychloroquine study:
    Study panning anti-malaria drug Trump took against COVID faces new questions, Michael Erman. June 3, 2020
    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine/medical-journal-concerned-about-validity-of-influential-hydroxychloroquine-study-idUKKBN2392X5?il=0

  319. @Patagonia Man

    I agree that the Balkanisung strategy is obvious. But I wonder how you justify the other two alleged purposes of Zionists.

    Any texts you can quote or link?

    Also you appear to have a problem of anachronism. Zionism didn’t originate with any purpose relating to controlling oil and by now, if there was a moment in history when seizing control of oil could be counted as a serious and sensible aim – and might have looked feasible for a nation of a few million – that moment has long gone.

    The idea that Israel could take control of the Suez Canal might have once seemed attractive if Israel was able to take the revenue from the canal. But I challenge you to show that “controlling global trade by controlling the choke point” is other than sheer fantasy AT ANY POINT since Zionist settlement began., and especially today. A few facts and figures about cargoes would be a start on realism.

  320. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Tucker: “Class war disguised as race war.”

    • Thanks: Commentator Mike
  321. @Colin Wright

    “you’ll accomplish more by telling people about the attack on the Liberty”

    If they haven’t heard of it or don’t remember what they once heard they may read or hear what you tell them but, if interested and bright enough to be worth enlisting on your side, how are you going to stop them being persuaded by the Israeli version they will easily find?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  322. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    New and maybe wise recommendation from authorities:

    Citizens should now have their Last Will and Testament
    with them at all times, preferably hanging from their necks,
    should the Grim Reaper, aka Gates-Fauxci 19, aka BS-19,
    or humorously, Covid-19, douse their small spark.

  323. @Wizard of Oz

    ‘“you’ll accomplish more by telling people about the attack on the Liberty”

    If they haven’t heard of it or don’t remember what they once heard they may read or hear what you tell them but, if interested and bright enough to be worth enlisting on your side, how are you going to stop them being persuaded by the Israeli version they will easily find?’

    A lot of people aren’t even aware there are competing narratives. At a minimum, you’ll be making them aware of that.

  324. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Libya, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, Honduras … USA.

    Oreobama and HagWitch with Soros and deep shits at it again?

    Drag then keelhaul all off to Guantanamo.

  325. Talha says:

    Not going to mention names, but man – does this sound like the possible wife of somebody that frequents these parts;

    If you know, you know.

    Peace.

  326. Art says:

    When will the truth and shame of the Jewish State become known.
    https://twitter.com/Bazal02/status/1266585659831091202/photo/1

  327. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    My comment didn’t take maybe Anthony Brian Logan’s video will?

    After David Dorn, I Am Done Trying To Empathize ….

    • Thanks: Art
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  328. @Hail

    ‘“Black people built this country — They have the right to tear it down” (pro-Riot slogan, Washington DC, May 31)’

    That’s a good example of the nonsensical crap the media and establishment fill blacks up with that in turn allows them to rationalize their criminal behavior.

  329. @anon

    ‘My comment didn’t take maybe Anthony Brian Logan’s video will?

    After David Dorn, I Am Done Trying To Empathize ….’

    Of course, he wouldn’t have cared had the victim been white. Yet for some mysterious reason, we should care about George Floyd.

    I guess whites just exist on a morally higher plane than blacks. Or am I misunderstanding something?

  330. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    ABL says “protesters” should care about Dorn, a 77 yr old retired cop,
    killed by the rioters plus other blacks killed by rioters.
    Why the black concern about Floyd who was not a good person
    but no concern about other blacks killed by blacks?

    Unless I have wrong video?

  331. Total number of unarmed afroamericans shot by police in USA in 2019: 10

    Total number of afroamericans that died from nCOV-19 (coronavirus) this year (2020) in USA: 20 000 to 25 000.

    Risk of death from nCOV-19 if you are PoC comparing to white? 3 times higher.

    Now, keep in mind those figures are best estimates and data I could find. IMO mortality rate is rather like 2.5 times higher among black folks comparing to average in USA.

    Anyway:

    25 000/10 = 2 500

    That’s multiplier.

    Risk of death increased by 3 orders of magnitute.

    And some media outlets (like Guardian) “will encourage” their belowed black americans to participate in rallies by telling them it is fine and risk of death from covid is not higher then bullet from cop.

    IT IS TWO POINT HALF THOUSANDS HIGHER!!!

    In raw numbers for every 100 000 black USA citizens who will expose themselves to covid-19 by attending protests and not wearing mask and gloves, 50 will die. And white folks: around 20 dead for every 100 000 attending. Those are very careful estimates.

    In one sentance: Media are fine with hundreds of black, white and other USA citizens dying “cause BLM”. Your lives means “so much” to them xD

  332. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Pussies galore drowning in tears:

    Yaki Frey, Bill DeBlahzio, Raph Northam,

    Justin Trudoo, Erica Garcetti, other twats I don’t know.

    Trump in a struggle in the Zionized, Pussyized West.

  333. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    The Duran on possibilities of Floyd and Chauvin and El Nuevo Rodeo:

    https://theduran.com/el-nuevo-rodeo-antifa-and-bricks-on-the-street-video/

  334. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    CNN’s (Chit Not News) Lemonhead gets f—ed by a sheriff:

  335. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Eisenhower and the Little Rock Crisis

    (Page 3) Eisenhower knew he had to act boldly. He placed the Arkansas National Guard under federal control and sent 1,000 U.S. Army paratroopers from the 101st Airborne Division to assist them in restoring order in Little Rock.

    http://www.americaslibrary.gov/aa/eisenhower/aa_eisenhower_littlerock_1.html

    101st or 82nd also used in Detroit late 60s to help with rioting.

    Trump, use the military if necessary.

    Use Guantanamo. This is necessary.

    Antifa thugs, the leaders and funders are terrorists.

    There should be room in G – mo for Kushner.

  336. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Black-Swan-Trump against 35 yrs DC detritus.
    4 years the fight continues.
    Bush-Cheney-Obama left tools to be used.
    Try drones as a warm up.

  337. Talha says:

    Achievement Unlocked: “Trolling the CIA”

    Peace.

  338. Talha says:

    A quick exploration on the roots and foundations of justice in a society:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Art
  339. aandrews says:

    Ron,

    Perhaps you’re already aware of this, but Bret Weinstein has an interesting podcast from a couple of days ago, with Yuri Deigin, a Russian guy (a non-biologist) who has, in Weinstein’s words, set the gold standard for reviewing the available literature on the pandemic and pointing out what it implies: strong support for the “lab-leak” hypothesis. He initially published his paper at Medium and it has subsequently show up in a number of mainstream publications, according to Weinstein. It’s a two-hour conversation. I think you’ll find it very interesting.

    I’ve just come across it and haven’t finished listening, let alone read the paper. If you do either or both, I’m curious what your thoughts would be.

    Lab-Made? SARS-CoV-2 Genealogy Through the Lens of Gain-of-Function Research
    Yuri Deigin
    Medium
    Apr 22, 2020

    • Replies: @aandrews
    , @Ron Unz
  340. aandrews says:
    @aandrews

    I’m curious if he touches on Covid-19’s unusual early-on lethality for Iranians.

    • Replies: @aandrews
  341. Ron Unz says:
    @aandrews

    Perhaps you’re already aware of this, but Bret Weinstein has an interesting podcast from a couple of days ago, with Yuri Deigin, a Russian guy (a non-biologist) who has, in Weinstein’s words, set the gold standard for reviewing the available literature on the pandemic and pointing out what it implies: strong support for the “lab-leak” hypothesis….I’m curious what your thoughts would be.

    Actually, somebody brought it to my attention about a month ago, I read the entire text, and I responded in a long comment:

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/our-facebook-ban-the-fatal-0-2/#comment-3890285

    The bottom line: I found the paper seemingly very detailed and thorough. But for exactly that reason, I also found it *extremely* unpersuasive and highly suspicious.

    My impression is that Weinstein fellow is some sort of rightwing Neocon type, which makes me even more suspicious…

    • Replies: @aandrews
  342. aandrews says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’m surprised you don’t know about Weinstein. He and his wife are former professors of biology at Evergreen State College, in Olympia, Washington. A few years ago, he and his wife were subjected to a student pogrom over a “day of absence” campus tradition in which all the minority students stayed away from campus, to high-light their indispensability. It was kinda like the Day Without a Mexican thing from several years ago.

    The lunatic student body decided that the tradition should be changed so that all the white people stayed away from campus for a day. Weinstein refused to go along with the gag and that was the source of his (and his wife’s) eventual undoing. It’s too tedious to fully explain and you can read about it at Wikipedia. There’s some fantastic video of his calm interaction with the unhinged students. Suffice to say, cut to the chase, the College cowered away from supporting the Weinstein’s and they were eventually chased off campus. It was a disgrace.

    Weinstein later appeared on a Joe Rogan podcast and explained what had happened to them to a wider audience, and everyone was suitably and appropriately appalled. The Evergreen fiasco foreshadowed the “woke” craziness going on now.

    I wouldn’t describe Weinstein as a right-wing Neocon type. He’s more like a staid, left-wing-ish college professor who has rudely had the scales lifted from his eyes.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  343. Ron Unz says:
    @aandrews

    I’m surprised you don’t know about Weinstein. He and his wife are former professors of biology at Evergreen State College, in Olympia, Washington.

    I do vaguely remember that incident, though since I’ve never heard of anything he’s done or written, it was all pretty fuzzy in my mind.

    According to Wiki, he’s part of the “Intellectual Dark Web” group, which I think includes that Jordan Peterson fellow and several others. My impression is that they’re basically a fake rightwing intellectual movement promoted by the Establishment in order to divert attention from more controversial ideas. Peterson certainly seems like a totally empty-headed nitwit, who supposedly got famous by taking the “shocking” position that men and women were different or something like that.

    And since I think they’re all just a quasi-Establishmentarian rightwing movement, I’d assume they’d generally be anti-China right now. Though that’s just my guess.

    • Agree: Ghan-buri-Ghan
    • Replies: @Talha
    , @aandrews
  344. Talha says:
    @Ron Unz

    Peterson certainly seems like a totally empty-headed nitwit, who supposedly got famous by taking the “shocking” position that men and women were different or something like that.

    He’s got some good points about him, but knows his limits and what lines he’s not allowed to cross.

    The fact that his fairly normal takes – as you pointed out – (nothing out of the ordinary 50 years ago) are considered controversial today simply shows how far left-liberal things have gotten.

    Peace.

  345. aandrews says:
    @Ron Unz

    “…though since I’ve never heard of anything he’s done or written….”

    I think the incident ruined him, professionally.

  346. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Ducktor Fauxci defends Chit Not News’ defense of rioters
    gathering as mobs to set fires and throw bricks.

    Ducktor Fauxci: “Bricks and fire are a strong defense against the Gates-Fauxci 19 virus.”

    And … who would know better than Wuhan Labs’ Mr Money Bags?

  347. Art says:
    @Talha

    A quick exploration on the roots and foundations of justice in a society:

    Talha,

    As a practical technique for righting wrongs – forgiveness is superior to any government system of justice. Forgiveness does not cloud the future. Government justice is very time consuming and expensive, and way to often it comes out wrong.

    Think Peace — Art

    • Agree: Talha
  348. German_reader says:

    Dear Mr Unz,

    I’ve got a request: I’ve decided to stop commenting on this website (except maybe anonymously), and I’d like you to delete my commenter profile, so my old comments can’t be searched easily. I’ve probably put too much personal information in them over the years, and while the chance may be remote, I don’t want anybody to be able to look through them and possibly doxx me.

    Thanks and best regards

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Wizard of Oz
  349. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Information for mercs, wannabe warriors, who in days past
    would have (or did) signed up to fight ISIS and AlQ, they are here.

    See a brick thrower, fire bomber and you got America’s enemy;
    the street-level thug part of the enemy.

  350. anon[402] • Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    Thanks, but would it also be possible to replace the name with “anon”, so the comments can’t be linked through the commenter name anymore? If it’s too much trouble, no big deal, but I thought I’d at least ask.

    Thanks and best regards
    GR

  351. @German_reader

    I think you have it already. What a beneficent host we have…

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  352. @Wizard of Oz

    I agree with the Agree, but I would now (of course) like to know more about German_reader 😉

    And I wonder if Ron has undoxxed me yet as I requested weeks ago….

  353. Talha says:

    Waiting when the Indians and Chinese on this forum will be at each others’ throats…?

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Talha
  354. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Could be good? Could only watch few minutes.

    Bill Moyers on the Deep State with Mike Lofgren:

    https://billmoyers.com/episode/the-deep-state-hiding-in-plain-sight/

  355. Nodwink says:

    This is an interesting development:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/nbc-news-google-federalist-zerohedge-ads

    It seems like comment sections are going to be a factor in which sites are going to be “cancelled.”

    In a report published Tuesday afternoon, NBC News claimed Google “banned” The Federalist and ZeroHedge from Google Ads for “pushing unsubstantiated claims” about the Black Lives Matter movement. Google later pushed back, claiming that The Federalist “was never demonetized,” and adding, “We worked with them to address issues on their site related to the comments section.”

    • Thanks: Talha
  356. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    An attractive, intelligent and aware young lady.

    TrutherTalk: White Guilt For Sale Only $10:

    • Replies: @Art
  357. Art says:
    @anon

    An attractive, intelligent and aware young lady.

    TrutherTalk: White Guilt For Sale Only $10:

    Like that girl!

    Hmm — 90% of the occupiers of Chaz are white. Probably most of them do not have a black friend.

    Once again black folks are being used, separated, and pushed further and further from mainstream America.

    p.s. Jew MSM are protecting Chaz – period!

  358. @Talha

    Talha:

    Your inner Pakistani is coming out.

    • Replies: @Talha
    , @Talha
    , @Talha
  359. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    It’s not just me; the Muslims are having a blast watching online Hindutva gangs and CCP gangs going after each other.

    “You drink cow urine, we’ll kill you all!”

    “You eat dogs, come and try it, you mlechchas!”

    Peace.

  360. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    And I checked out your comments over there; looks like you are having fun ringing the doorbell a few times and running. I’d join in the fun too, but I stopped commenting on that blog a while back.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  361. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Politics aside though (and maybe despite the political landscape), stories like this about real people getting along as human beings give me great joy:

    Peace.

  362. Miro23 says:

    Australia is hit by a ‘sophisticated’ state-sponsored cyber attack: Scott Morrison confirms parliament, businesses, schools and hospitals are being targeted by an enemy government

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8438205/Huge-cyber-attack-aimed-Australian-government.html?offset=4&max=100&jumpTo=comment-560126899#comment-560126899

    It’s clear by now that the MSM (public face of the NWO) are setting up China. Put together the Covid-19 lies, attempted Hong Kong colour revolution, Huawei , totally biased reporting of the India-China border conflict and now cyber warfare.

    It’s the same crowd that were behind the fakery of WMD and 9/11, but it’s not clear what they have in mind. Surely not war with China?? They’re not that crazy? Or maybe they’re tricking India into it?

  363. Miro23 says:

    Wirecard AG has temporarily suspended its outgoing chief operating officer after revealing that auditors couldn’t find about 1.9 billion euros ($2.1 billion) in cash, spooking investors and casting doubt on the company’s leadership and survival.

    Another interesting bit of news. This is a top DAX 30 company.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-18/wirecard-drops-in-early-trading-before-delayed-financial-results

  364. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    More (but not unknown) on Bill and Melinda Gates and Foundation.

    Why these 2 haven’t been rolled up in carpets and placed
    in front of stampeding buffalo baffles me.

    Obianuju Ekeocha: “Exposing the Gates Agenda in Africa.”

    • Thanks: Talha
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  365. Talha says:

    I just got some new threads from Shukr and – in case anyone else is interested in some pretty good quality Islamic-influenced clothing that gets good mileage in the West – I would suggest checking them out, especially the coats/outerwear:
    https://shukronline.com/men/jubbas.html

    Peace.

    [MORE]

    I am quite impressed by the quality for the price. I even got myself a “Talha Jubba” (no kidding):
    https://shukronline.com/men/jubbas/talha-jubba.html

    Anyway, if anyone likes this kind of stuff. And NO, I’m not getting a commission or anything (though perhaps I should ask for one for the “Talha Jubba”), just thought some people might be interested in expanding their wardrobe with a flavor from the Orient for a reasonable price.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  366. ‘Biden says rooting out systemic racism is ‘moral obligation of our time”’

    Expressed as symbolic logic, this is about the same as a seventeenth-century divine assuring us the time has come to stamp out witchcraft.

    …yes, we really have regressed that far.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  367. @Talha

    Interesting…but that’s not going to happen.

    It reminds me, though. My wife — who happens to be a fervent Evangelical Christian — thinks Turkish caftans are just the cat’s pajamas. She bought several when we were there, and has gone online looking for more. She regrets not having ordered a tailored version when we were in Morocco.

    • Replies: @Talha
  368. @anon

    ‘Why these 2 haven’t been rolled up in carpets and placed
    in front of stampeding buffalo baffles me.’

    That’s creative. When I become global God-king, submit a resume for the post of court executioner.

  369. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Those are nice too – I knew they had those in Morocco, had no clue they were popular in Turkey! Have her check out the site; they have a women’s section. I don’t know if that will be “too Muslim looking” though.

    I wish they sold this Algerian style from the Ottoman days:
    Roll to Friday prayers in that!!!

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  370. @Talha

    ‘And I checked out your comments over there; looks like you are having fun ringing the doorbell a few times and running. I’d join in the fun too, but I stopped commenting on that blog a while back.

    Peace.’

    Yeah. Having spent twenty years jousting with the advocates of the Zionist entity, propagandists for other dubious causes have an almost charming naiveté to their dishonesty. You wouldn’t think it, but Chinese can appear unsophisticated and innocent.

    Once you’ve crossed swords with the depth and elaboration of falsehood Israel supporters are capable of, it’s difficult to take anyone else’s attempts at lying very seriously. It’s like comparing Chartres to a mud hut.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
  371. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Especially when they let it out on guys they don’t really like or respect that much, like Hindutva Joe. It is kind of cute though, I’ll admit that.

    Should have guessed this was going to happen; Modi didn’t give him his signature hug:
    “ No hugs but warmth evident as Modi, Xi met 6 times in less than 24 hours”
    https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/no-hugs-but-warmth-evident-as-modi-xi-met-6-times-in-less-than-24-hours/story-1QnBXMP40MOaz9bY35imFL.html

    Peace.

  372. Meanwhile, in other news…

    Canadians do have a sense of humor.

    ‘A Canadian province is investigating claims that healthcare staff played a racist “game” by betting on the blood alcohol level of indigenous patients.
    The claims, involving staff in at least one British Columbia hospital, came to light after a community leader filed a complaint on Thursday.
    Health Minister Adrian Dix called the allegations “abhorrent” and has hired an independent investigator.
    He would not say which hospital was named in the complaint.
    “The allegation is that a game was being played to investigate the blood alcohol level of patients in the emergency rooms, in particular with indigenous people and perhaps others. And if true, it is intolerable and racist and of course (has) affected profoundly patient care,” Mr Dix told a press conference Friday. He did not say if any staff faced disciplinary action.
    The game was allegedly dubbed “The Price is Right”, after the popular game show. Staff lost if they guessed above the real blood alcohol limit. The game was played when indigenous patients were admitted to hospital, but other races may have been targets as well, Mr Dix said…’

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  373. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    Don’t know if you meant to do this or not, but I would not recommend people click on that google drive link since you could inadvertently compromise your Google account/ID to whoever owns that file.

    Just FYI.

    Peace.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  374. Miro23 says:
    @Colin Wright

    ‘Biden says rooting out systemic racism is ‘moral obligation of our time”’

    Expressed as symbolic logic, this is about the same as a seventeenth-century divine assuring us the time has come to stamp out witchcraft.

    …yes, we really have regressed that far.

    And the subtext is that only whites are racist. So it really reads, “Rooting out whites is the “moral obligation of our time””.

    The Jewish media foments the anti-white narrative, and Howard Zinn type indoctrination forces it into schools. The upshot is that burning the US flag/ destroying historic statutes is entirely normalized as Social Justice type activity.

    It was a great mistake to give Jewish refugees a home in the USA after their expulsion from Europe. Their place was, and can only be, Israel. There are a few honorable exceptions. but their leaders inevitably default to behaving like a hostile mafia.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  375. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Appears new BS hard-hitting the airwaves and print:

    Second wave of Gates 19 flowing everywhere
    and
    Trump behind in polls.

    No. Fakery.

    BS flooding back not virus
    and
    Trump is ahead and will win.

    Biden, Michelle, others who no-one-gives-a-shit-about
    can stay in the basement.

  376. @Talha

    ‘Don’t know if you meant to do this or not…’

    Ah. Speaking of which, you obviously know how. How does one post images at Unz?

    • Replies: @Talha
  377. Talha says:
    @Colin Wright

    You just have to paste the exact link directly to the gif or jpg or png file and Unz code takes care of the rest.

    The address should end in “.jpg” or “.png” or other file format.,.you know, the value you would put for the “src” of an “img” element.

    Peace.

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
  378. @anon

    ‘How ISIS/Antifa/infiltrated BLM should be met everywhere…’

    Sadly, notice how both of the major news outlets you cite are British, not American.

    ‘Manufacturing consensus,’ is it? In fact, reactions more or less along these lines have occurred all over the country: to my knowledge, in Yucaipa, California, and Bellevue, Washington. In Birmingham, Alabama, and in the suburbs of Chicago.

    And now in Ohio. But that’s just what leaks out. We’re told Americans support this mischievous crap, that it has widespread support.

    But it doesn’t. We are being lied to. Of course, we always have been. It’s just that now it’s becoming obvious.

    How broad is the resistance? None of us know; we can only rely on what our friends and neighbors say. We live in, if not precisely a police state, certainly a society where certain groups dominate the public exchange of information.

  379. @Miro23

    ‘It was a great mistake to give Jewish refugees a home in the USA after their expulsion from Europe. Their place was, and can only be, Israel. There are a few honorable exceptions. but their leaders inevitably default to behaving like a hostile mafia.’

    You’ve said this before — but you never explain what the Palestinians did to deserve such a fate.

    If anyone should be saddled with the Jews, perhaps it is indeed us. After all, we’ve done more to enable their pernicious nonsense than anyone else. Why should we inflict this blight on some unoffending third party?

    Anyway, even if all the Jews came here, they’d still make up only five percent of our population. We’re big boys; surely we’ve the wit and the power to keep a small minority from dominating and wrecking our whole society. Obviously, the Palestinians can’t say anything like that.

    So I’d say let’s man up. It’s our responsibility, and happily, the crisis is right now. Let’s confront it.

    • Agree: Miro23, Fran Taubman
    • Replies: @anon
  380. Nodwink says:

    I know the COVID thing was dominating the news at the time, but the response from the Australian media to this was rather muted.

    https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/the-nova-scotia-shooter-case-has-hallmarks-of-an-undercover-operation/

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  381. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright

    Damned right!

    Me and my buddies in South Louziana are building
    a high and deep wall to surround a deep mud hole.

    This will be Yid new home and land.

    So busy treading mud, no time to swindle, loot, lie, murder, or expand.

  382. Wielgus says:
    @Colin Wright

    Doctors and nurses are sometimes internationally prone to black humour if not callousness. I remember reading about a US hospital where severe burns patients were referred to as “crispy critters”. Patients who left the hospital without permission, perhaps to avoid a medical bill, were called AMFs (for “Adios Motherfuckers”)
    George Orwell, an often ill man who had experience of hospitals in Britain, France and Republican Spain (he was wounded by a sniper in the Spanish Civil War) commented on doctors, especially young ones, liking to start operating before a patient’s anaesthetic had properly kicked in.

  383. Bolton’s book of leaks is now leaked online:

    Lets get started on the book reviews, people:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GvO7vDn-whr4Os7KZAOxiW4GW1gckjUb/view

    –How about a 590 page tome from a National Security Adviser that has the term “FISA” exactly one time?

    Raw meat for the lions here–Ready, set, go….. 🙂

  384. @Nodwink

    Australian? Surely you can’t mistake us. We are not nearly as nice as Canadians.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  385. @Wizard of Oz

    ‘Australian? Surely you can’t mistake us. We are not nearly as nice as Canadians.’

    I suppose that’s a matter of taste.

  386. Some incompetent manages to wreck a Murillo.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53141755

    That isn’t funny; Murillo is one of the true greats.

    Seppuku would seem to be appropriate in such cases.

  387. Did Black Lives Matter criticize Israel?

    The media’s suddenly switched back to the Corona Virus.

    • LOL: Talha
  388. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Evolution: Ceattle, Chaz, Chop, Chit, Cruise Missile.

  389. Further thoughts on Engel’s defeat.

    ‘Bowman’s victory was confirmed on Wednesday by Decision Desk HQ, a website that tracks US elections, after initial results showed the progressive candidate leading by a wide margin throughout Tuesday night.

    In the final stretch of the campaign, pro-Israel groups including the Democratic Majority for Israel (DMFI) stepped up their efforts to re-elect Engel, sending mailers, running TV ads and organising phone banks attacking Bowman…’

    — Haaretz

    This is obviously not good news for the Zionist entity — but it may not be good news for the rest of us either.

    To review, 40% of the billionaires in the US are Jews, they dominate the media (do they control it?), and they fund both major political parties.

    If they decide they need to appease the blacks and the ‘Progressives’…

    Well, we’re screwed. If it’s a matter of saving Israel, they’ll throw Whitey under the bus. No question.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  390. Bubba Wallace’s N-word Problem

    Haven’t heard any media slingpots finger the most probable culprit: the scheduler who assigned drama queen that garage. NOOSCAR could’ve orchestrated the gimmick simply by noticing the loop pull (and 2019 video trail) then arranging that her majesty’s retinue be near it.

    They have their MLK Selma parade, indicate over-the-top concern, then breathe pure relief when FBI’s Feelz Investigation Squad clears—this time anyway—the dangerous hillbilly community. Crisis averted.

    Anyway, hard to believe they’re as stupid and inept as it appears. This play has another act to follow. Can’t be where it ends.

  391. According to Forbes there were 540 American billionaires in 2016:

    America boasts 540 billionaires, more than any other country on the planet and more than all of Europe combined.

    Forbes Israel compiled a list of all Jewish billionaires in 2016, including their nationality, on the list there are 106 people with US citizenship starting with Larry Ellison,

    In total there are 106 out of 540 which are 19.4%.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  392. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    VR Holocaust Experience by Voxnews NOT Vox.com (zionist/Israeli).

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/AxM3Zm0j12SL/

  393. @Fran Taubman

    ‘According to Forbes there were 540 American billionaires in 2016:

    America boasts 540 billionaires, more than any other country on the planet and more than all of Europe combined.

    Forbes Israel compiled a list of all Jewish billionaires in 2016, including their nationality, on the list there are 106 people with US citizenship starting with Larry Ellison,

    In total there are 106 out of 540 which are 19.4%.’

    So according to you Jews are merely overrepresented by a factor of ten rather than twenty?

    That’s a relief.

    …I wonder how it works out globally, by the way? Lessee…Jews are two tenths of one percent of the world’s population, so it follow that…

  394. @Colin Wright

    The wildcard in the equation is Muslim America, the vast majority of which is black and reaching demographic parity with Jews.

    The increased involvement of Muslims in American politics is something the usual suspects considered long ago, which is why they’ve done their best to compromise the ostensibly Muslim representatives of “the squad.”

    To zionists, the potential consequences of a larger Muslim America remain too daunting. Everything we’ve witnessed with respect to anti-Palestinian legislation aimed at the First Amendment, the internet putsch, the drive to subordinate the Near East and Muslim polities to Israeli hegemony, and possibly even Covid-19 itself (as a Sampson Option-type strategy implemented to redefine political and economic administration, and to engage America in a self-consuming war) betrays their desperation.

    And here’s the irony …

    Even if Israel (the diaspora) is compelled to sacrifice Israel (the geopolitical squatter state), they’ll do it. We might just find more Jews over here. Whatever the case, they’re going to continue to try and make in-roads into Muslim America in order to emasculate it.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  395. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Just a comment: Top dog at Richard Petty Motorsports (Bubba Wallace fame)
    is Andrew M. Murstein.

    In 2017, Murstein and his partner, NASCAR driver Richard Petty, announced the hiring of their new driver for the 43 car, Darrell “Bubba” Wallace, Jr., who became the first African-American driver to drive regularly in NASCAR’s premier Cup Series in over 40 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew M. Murstein

    Black and Yid in NASCAR – same team.

  396. @AnonStarter

    ‘…And here’s the irony …

    Even if Israel (the diaspora) is compelled to sacrifice Israel (the geopolitical squatter state), they’ll do it… ‘

    Here’s another irony. I’ll take that and call it a deal.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  397. The poor black man was just trying to steal things, and his prospective victim hurt him.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53196474?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world&link_location=live-reporting-story

    Fortunately, this is 2020, and you can’t get away with that.

    …the victim can’t get away with that, that is. No one is suggesting the black man got what he deserved.

    He didn’t, of course. He was only blinded in one eye. Had it been both, we could rest assured he wouldn’t steal any more.

    As it is, the verminous creature is actually interviewed by the BBC, asking what further steps he intends to pursue to secure justice.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  398. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Few more changes coming:

    A Weeping Willow will replace the Bald Eagle as the nation’s emblem.

    Mt Rushmore will have a new name: Mt Pussy Galore with p******
    replacing faces. Some hosts of The View will be the models.
    Barbara Walters will make a special appearance.

    National Anthem will be Cry Me a River.

    Washington Monument will begin transitioning.

    Tears not votes will determine mayors and governors.

    The one constant: Vultures will continue to rob the country into deeper poverty.

  399. @Colin Wright

    True story:

    Years ago. South side of Chicago. Thief apprehended by Muslims, bound to a chair and made to watch a machete being sharpened before his eyes. Muslims have to break for dawn prayer. When they return, the bonds are broken, the perp never to be seen again.

    South side Muslims had a sharif (head of community security) that was also Mayor Daley’s personal bodyguard. I’m fairly confident the police were rarely, if ever, needed in their neck of the woods.

  400. @Colin Wright

    Need to make a correction …

    While true that, cumulatively, Muslim Americans are comprised primarily of immigrants, no single ethnic group among them is larger than that of the indigenous black population.

  401. Zuckerberg reverses policy?

    And here I thought things were already pretty bad …

    Mark Zuckerberg reverses hate-content policy after Facebook stock nosedives

    Wall Street talked and Mark Zuckerberg finally listened.

    The Facebook CEO did an abrupt about-face on Friday by implementing policy changes regarding hate content on his social media platform as the company’s stock nosedived.

    At market close, Facebook shares were down 8.3% for the day to $216.08 per share. …

    In mid-June, major civil rights groups – including the Anti-Defamation League and NAACP – formed the initiative Stop Hate For Profit, which urges advertisers to halt hawking goods on Facebook throughout July.

    Facebook, which generates nearly all of its revenue through advertising, saw shares tumble Friday trading after conglomerate Unilever halted U.S. advertising on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

    Unilvever, the London-based conglomerate comprising more than 400 brands including Ben & Jerry’s, Dove toiletries and Lipton, shelled out over $42 million in 2019 U.S. advertising on Facebook, according to analytics firm Pathmatics.

  402. ‘Global coronavirus death toll approaches half a million: Live’

    That’s…that’s one out of every fourteen thousand people!

    It’s as if we had a small city…and one 83-year old died!

    Clearly, shutting down everything, pushing the panic button, and running in circles is the only reasonable response.

  403. Today’s ‘Reality, or the Babylon Bee?’

    ‘St. Louis was named after an anti-Semitic crusader. Should its name be changed?’

  404. Today’s ‘Reality, or the Babylon Bee?’

    ‘St. Louis was named after an anti-Semitic crusader. Should its name be changed?’

  405. I assume this juxtaposition of headlines was serendipitous:

    ‘Wash Post Editor Karen Attiah Calls For ‘Revenge’ Against ‘White Women’
    Reddit Bans Biggest Trump-Backing Group, Citing Hate Speech’

    Nothing about Reddit banning the Washington Post.

  406. Nodwink says:

    “she died for us” – sound familiar?

  407. Art says:

    The Constitution is dead!

    The another arm of the US Deep State strikes – John Roberts and the Supreme Court sided against States Rights. A Roberts ruling just killed an anti-abortion state law.

    If one reads the Constitution – abortion is a state matter. Roe v. Wade was the greatest abuse of judicial power in US history. Roberts and the court just voted to sustain their wrongful anti-constitution power grab from the states.

    p.s. The first priority of every judge is to maintain the authority and power of the court. That means, keeping Roe v. Wade intact – PERIOD.

  408. Miro23 says:

    On Sunday, Black Lives Matter UK issued a barrage of tweets over Israel’s proposed annexation of the West Bank and claimed that ‘mainstream British politics is gagged of the right to critique Zionism.

    True enough and the UK elite is hastily qualifying its support of BLM.

    Today’s Daily Mail headline.

    Sky Sports pundits Jamie Redknapp and Patrice Evra DITCH badges for Black Lives Matter as football captains consider making public statement over links to organisation and Premier League distances themselves following group’s extreme statements.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8475969/Premier-League-distances-Black-Lives-Matter-saying-does-not-endorse-group.html#newcomment

    • Replies: @Patagonia Man
  409. June 30, 2020 Bill Clinton’s Serbian War Atrocities Exposed in New Indictment

    “Clinton’s 1999 bombing of Serbia was as big a fraud as George W. Bush’s conning this nation into attacking Iraq.”
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/06/30/bill-clintons-serbian-war-atrocities-exposed-in-new-indictment/

    tl;dr

  410. @Miro23

    The UK Daily Mail is MI-6’s propaganda organ of choice; has been at least since the 1920’s.

  411. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Of interest to me, who changed Constantinople to Istanbul?

    Ataturk the Donmeh (Yid) not the Ottomans/Muslims.

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090924170206AAnTguJ

    http://www.sephardicstudies.org/istanbul.html

    https://english.mojahedin.org/eventsen/203/The-naming-of-Constantinople-(Istanbul)

    When the Republic of Turkey was founded in 1923, the capital was moved to Ankara, and Constantinople was officially renamed Istanbul in 1930

  412. I just read this, having missed it the first time. I think it is dynamite–the thing our ruling elites are most afraid of being investigated. Could you maybe update the Geoffrey Epstein part of it and republish? What are the facts about the autopsy? Who identified the body? Has anybody tried to interview the guards who were supposedly in the breakroom when the close circuit televsion malfunctioned, and Epstein chose that moment to commit suicide? In my opinion, the reason they were in the breakroom is that the warden showed up with a man with a CIA badge who told them, “Take a break.” I have also seen a photo purporting to be of Epstein’s jail cell in which there is nothing taller than four feet from which he could have hanged himself. I know nothing about this of course, and you may not either. Your forte is commentary and analysis, after all, and not investigative reporting. But it is very important. It could change the whole course of history for our country if the version of events that I suspect is true and could be proven.

  413. This has to be fake, of what appears to be a terra dactyl sized screech owl looking creature carrying a shark by it’s claws, and filmed from above the bird. I do not believe that the bird would even be able to fly with something that heavy, or carry that with claws, let alone the size of it!

    Agenda21 revised to Jurassic Park?!

    https://sputniknews.com/videoclub/202007011079770378-gargantuan-predatory-bird-carries-shark-over-beachgoers/

  414. Back on June 11th, I suggested…

    https://colinwrightssite.wordpress.com/2020/06/11/this-is-still-up/

    It turns out I was merely slightly ahead of schedule.

    ‘South Dakota tribal leader joins call to remove Mount Rushmore ahead of Trump visit’

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