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I recently spent a couple of hours updating the SimilarWeb traffic metrics of our own webzine and those of nearly eighty others, and the results were reasonably satisfactory, with the complete chart included at the bottom of this column.

Most of the other sites listed were also alternative outlets, but I also included some more mainstream ones for comparison purposes. Among smaller publications, traffic numbers are heavily impacted by the ebbs and flows of the topics that move to the fore of the public debate, especially if the writers choose to surf those particular waves.

For example, websites that had wholeheartedly jumped on board the QAnon controversy sometimes gained a large burst of readership, but this eventually subsided once the hoax became apparent, and publications promoting the burgeoning anti-vaxxing movement have also done very well over the last year or two.

Most recently, the outbreak of Russia’s Ukraine war greatly shifted public attention toward foreign policy issues, especially benefiting those alternative publications providing a contrary perspective to the 100% pro-Ukraine skew offered by virtually every mainstream source. Perhaps the most extreme example of this shift has been with the Saker’s website, whose readership grew nearly ten-fold as a consequence, though some of that enormous rise has recently dissipated.

Similarly, the approaching November elections have given a major boost to the those somewhat more mainstream-tilted publications focused on the Democrat-vs-Republican battle for control of the House and the Senate, a topic of less interest to those who don’t particularly care which of the two competing factions of our political establishment ultimately gains the upper hand.

As a general interest webzine, we are much less affected by such shifts in national focus, and I was quite pleased to see that our readership is significantly greater than the combined total of the Nation and the New Republic, two of the most venerable opinion publications, each over a century old. Moreover, we have achieved this success despite the severe handicap of being banned by Facebook and having all our pages deranked by Google, with those twin gatekeepers of the global Internet thus doing whatever they can to prevent readers from finding our material.

 

But for me, the sweetest results came when I noticed our performance relative to that of a publication closely associated with a different Tech titan, a webzine launched almost simultaneously with our own but possessing vastly greater financial and professional resources.

Co-founded by renowned investigative journalist Glenn Greenwald and backed by a pledge of enormous financial support by multi-billionaire Pierre Omidyar, the Intercept seemed likely to transform global journalism, but such was not the case.

The inputs were certainly enormous. According to the Form 990 filings, during the years 2013 to 2020, the publication absorbed almost $160 million, and with annual expenses recently running nearly $30 million per year, the aggregate total is now probably north of $200 million, an astonishing amount of money for a webzine.

Yet by the time of Greenwald’s angry resignation in October 2020, I was shocked to discover that the readership of the Intercept was only 50% greater than ours. That advantage had dropped to just 8% by January of this year, and today our traffic is more than 20% greater. Our own publication has always been run on a shoe-string, and it’s heartening to see that offering controversial, interesting content may achieve results better than that produced by an all-star team of journalists backed by an ocean of funding.

The story of the rise and fall of the Intercept is an important and enlightening one, so I think I’ll include an extended portion of what I’d written two years ago following Greenwald’s acrimonious departure:

Several years ago during the height of the Edward Snowden/NSA spying scandal, Glenn Greenwald was sometimes described as the world’s most famous journalist. I think that characterization was probably correct, at least if we exclude Julian Assange from consideration.

The American government has emphatically denied that Assange was ever a journalist, and is now working to prosecute him for espionage and sentence him to life in a maximum security prison. Meanwhile, it did grudgingly concede that protective status to Greenwald. So the fates of the two most famous figures who revealed American crimes to the world sharply diverged, and the year after Assange was forced to desperately seek asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy in London and begin his long period of miserable confinement to a single room, Greenwald made worldwide headlines as founding editor of a lavishly-funded new journalistic enterprise that captured the imagination of the world.

That venture was First Look Media, established by Tech billionaire Pierre Omidyar, who pledged $250 million in financial support. Its first and only visible project has been The Intercept, an outlet intended to provide a home for fearless investigative journalism, free from the pressures and dishonest compromises so often found in traditional media outlets. Greenwald’s two fellow founding editors were Laura Poitras, an award-winning documentarian who had collaborated on the Snowden project, and Jeremy Scahill, whose best-selling books had lacerated the American crimes committed during our disastrous Iraq War, focusing especially upon the huge growth of international mercenary outfits, now euphemistically styled as “military contractors.”

Numerous other veteran journalists also soon eagerly came on board at a time when so many of American’s traditional media outlets were losing their advertising revenue to the Internet, resulting in crippling waves of layoffs and cut-backs. Backed by such enormous and apparently disinterested financial support, The Intercept seemed poised for an extremely bright future.

Unfortunately, the reality has been quite different. Creating a successful media outlet is a far more difficult and complex undertaking than merely hiring experienced journalists and providing them with heavy funding. Late last week Greenwald announced his resignation from The Intercept, explaining that the top editorial staff had repeatedly blocked him from publishing his lengthy article analyzing the huge corruption-scandal now swirling around Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden.

Greenwald was thus forced to abandon the high-profile publication that he himself had co-founded in order to regain his journalistic freedom, and that irony was hardly lost upon many other independent Internet voices, including his former colleague Matt Taibbi, Yves Smith of the Naked Capitalism blog, and the Moon of Alabama blogger.

Greenwald himself explained the situation in his scathing letter of resignation. According to him, in recent years The Intercept had increasingly abandoned its original stated mission and instead become more and more indistinguishable from all the other left-leaning publications on the Internet, adopting a fiercely partisan party-line and demonstrating Procrustean tendencies to shape its journalistic output in support of its ideological goals and favored candidates. The large crew of New York editors eventually brought on board tended to measure their success by the accolades they attracted from mainstream outlets while they lived in fear of Twitter denunciations. As a result, they soon came to closely resemble the establishmentarian media that their publication had originally been created to challenge. They and most of their mainstream media peers regarded the defeat of Donald Trump as an overriding goal and therefore seem to have somehow persuaded themselves that any temporary sacrifice of honest journalistic standards was a price well worth paying.

Julian Assange may soon be spending the rest of his life in a small prison cell, and compared to that outcome Greenwald’s humiliating treatment is a mere bagatelle, but both figures fell from ideological grace for similar reasons. As an anti-secrecy campaigner, Assange had become the toast of our liberal elite by exposing the crimes of the Bush era American military, but when he evenhandedly released DNC emails deeply embarrassing to Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, he was reviled as a traitor and a Russian stooge. Although Greenwald remains left-liberal in his personal views, his staunch refusal to avert his eyes from the flagrant political and media corruption on his side of the aisle has provoked deep resentments among his one-time ideological admirers.

Many details of Greenwald’s resignation can be found in the following articles, and he also explained the circumstances in an interview on Tucker Carlson Tonight:

 

Although I’d mostly lost track of both Greenwald and The Intercept over the last few years, the story of his sudden resignation didn’t particularly surprise me.

Donald Trump had always struck me as an ignorant buffoon and most of his proposed policies were ridiculous, but I felt that his establishmentarian political critics had almost been driven insane by their loathing for him. Since I regarded both Trump and Biden as such exceptionally awful candidates, I’d paid relatively little attention to the many months of heated presidential campaigning. However, the recent charges of massive financial corruption against the Biden family seemed pretty credible to me, and the unified media efforts to drag the Democratic ticket across the finish line by hiding the scandal from the American voters was utterly outrageous.

The New York Post is America’s oldest newspaper and after it broke the Biden corruption story a couple of weeks ago, both Facebook and Twitter took the unprecedented step of banning all links to the published account of that potentially massive political scandal. Compared to such absurd censorship, the unwillingness of The Intercept‘s Trump-hating editors to publish Greenwald’s article was shameful but hardly surprising. However once I looked into the background, other surprises did appear.

Every now and then I had read a story mentioning The Intercept in my morning newspapers, but few of the details stuck in my mind, so I browsed around a little, and found a Columbia Journalism Review article from last year describing some of the difficulties at that publication. Apparently, Omidyar had been fulfilling his financial commitments, donating nearly $90 million to First Look Media between 2013 and 2017, and apparently almost all of that massive funding had gone to The Intercept, whose annual staff compensation alone reached $9.3 million by 2017. The CJR article noted that the salaries paid “dwarf those at other center-left, nonprofit outlets.” My casual browsing didn’t uncover any detailed financial information for the last three years, but the webzine must surely have absorbed well over $100 million by now, perhaps even closer to $150 million.

With such enormous financial inputs, I wondered why I had heard so little about the publication in recent years, just an occasional story here and there in my newspapers, so I decided to take a look. Their website seemed no different in design or content than that found on dozens of other left-liberal webzines. The names of almost none of the writers were familiar to me while the topics they presented were all too familiar. So it wasn’t clear to me why anyone would read their publication.

I soon discovered that most of the world apparently had the same reaction. I had naturally assumed that such a lavishly-funded publication captained by highly-paid all-stars and having a large writing staff would possess a readership vastly larger than that of our own website, with traffic perhaps twenty or thirty times greater. Instead, I found to my utter astonishment that their Alexa Traffic Rank of 11,542 was less than 50% larger than that of our own small opinion webzine. Indeed, if not for our having been banned by Facebook and Google earlier this year, we might have even caught up with them by now. And according to SimilarWeb, although their website does get almost three times as many monthly visits as ours, the total time spent on our website is actually slightly higher, with most of their visitors quickly departing. This brought to mind the old story about the dog-food that dogs just won’t eat.

Although a few natural Internet monopolies such as Google, Facebook and Amazon seem impervious to easy challenge, the web has become a great leveler for opinion journalism, with the interest and quality of content material far outweighing many millions of dollars in bloated expenditures. The dilemma encountered by the decision-makers at The Intercept is that if you mostly publish articles that are exactly the same as those found everywhere else on the Internet, you provide people few reasons to favor your website over so many others.

Moreover, it’s quite possible that very heavy staff funding can itself become counter-productive. For example, an outraged Max Blumenthal revealed in a Tweet that The Intercept‘s top editor Betsy Reed is paid well over $400,000 per year, an extremely sizable sum in the world of non-profit journalism:

Any self-respecting individual drawing such a salary must justify her existence and earn her keep. While it would have been the easiest thing in the world to quickly approve Greenwald’s important article and then publish it on the website, any unpaid intern could have done as much, while someone whose annual salary is approaching the half-million dollar range must necessarily devote time and thought to all the deeper political implications, conferring at length with her staff and other top advisors before rendering her Solomonic judgment. Hence Greenwald’s angry departure.

Indeed, some of these existing problems seem to have appeared at the very beginning of the project, as recounted by Ken Silverstein, a left-liberal journalist with a long career at prestigious publications. As an early hire who soon resigned. he explained his reasons in a stinging 2015 Politico Magazine article entitled “Where Journalism Goes to Die,” describing the mixture of extreme editorial bureaucracy and severe ideological-correctness that led him to depart in disgust after just one year.

The contrast with our own webzine could not be greater. Although my title is Editor-in-Chief, I have neither salary nor staff, and since I’m so heavily preoccupied with my own reading and research, I doubt I spend more than a couple of hours a day on the publication, instead relying upon the highly-automated software I had built to do almost all the work.

Since I have made it very clear that I do not personally stand behind the articles I publish, I allow my writers to write whatever they want, even if much of their output might seem like nonsense to me. By providing such a large array of often-conflicting alternative perspectives, we therefore fulfill our alternative-media mission statement. And as far as I know, there are few if any other websites that regularly publish such a wide and varied array of highly-controversial material, thereby drawing readership roughly comparable to that produced by Omidyar’s $100 million-plus expenditure.

With comments on our website being very lightly moderated, we usually accrue a million additional words each week, thereby providing a public forum for regular discussion of all sorts of controversial topics banned almost everywhere else. Much of this material may be ignorant or insane, but those willing to mine the low-grade ore will discover a considerable sprinkling of gems. This process is facilitated by the commenting-software I have designed, which I think is far superior in many respects to what I have seen elsewhere.

The combination of Greenwald’s necessary departure from his own publication and the near-total censorship of the New York Post articles on the Biden corruption scandal may together mark a watershed in mainstream American journalism, as suggested by former New York Times journalist Chris Hedges and Matt Taibbi in a half-hour discussion on RT America.

 

Finally, here’s the comparison chart showing our current monthly traffic metrics against those of other, mostly alternative websites:

PublicationPageviewsTotal VisitsTotal HoursBounce%Time/VPgs/V
ZeroHedge132,704,00037,700,0003,497,72243,135:343.52
The Epoch Times60,685,00026,500,0002,767,77857.696:162.29
Infowars23,500,0009,400,000537,88947.153:262.50
National Review22,134,0009,300,000387,50058.072:302.38
Daily Stormer18,432,0003,200,000446,22224.738:225.76
Daily Caller16,560,0007,200,000302,00058.192:312.30
Jacobin Magazine9,000,0004,000,000193,33392.112:542.25
Reason Magazine7,956,0003,600,000150,00064.152:302.21
LewRockwell7,429,0001,700,000164,80639.815:494.37
Vineyard of the Saker7,038,0002,300,000118,83345.383:063.06
Foreign Policy6,734,0003,700,00092,50071.731:301.82
Conservative Treehouse6,720,0003,200,000215,11151.964:022.10
Unherd6,048,0002,700,000120,00058.082:402.24
Lifesite News6,417,0003,100,000120,55663.542:202.07
Current Affairs5,840,0001,600,000111,11164.044:103.65
Prager U5,700,0002,500,000128,47259.253:052.28
The Unz Review5,680,0002,000,000126,11145.643:472.84
American Greatness5,346,0002,700,000126,00063.792:481.98
Alternet5,120,0002,000,000126,11149.423:472.56
The Intercept4,650,0003,000,00068,33375.371:221.55
American Conservative4,515,0002,100,00095,66755.932:442.15
Moon of Alabama4,454,0001,700,00072,72250.52:342.62
Mother Jones4,452,0002,800,00073,11169.751:341.59
VoxDay4,116,0002,100,000131,83359.63:461.96
CHD3,620,0002,000,00068,88966.222.041.81
Quillette3,500,0001,400,00054,44465.942:202.50
Asia Times3,456,0001,800,00053,50064.411:471.92
The Right Stuff3,363,382635,80063,22732.675:585.29
Counter-Currents2,967,516696,60066,37148.925:434.26
The Nation2,880,0001,500,00039,16766.951:341.92
American Renaissance3,797,110881,00080,51435.455:294.31
New Republic2,544,0001,600,00052,88974.91.591.59
Marginal Revolution4,142,0001,900,000115,05659.453:382.18
Takimag1,464,000480,00038,93336.624:523.05
Signs of the Times2,695,0001,100,00063,55651.483:282.45
Naked Capitalism2,555,645816,50075,75343.565:343.13
World Socialist Website2,464,0001,400,00043,94471.371:531.76
Global Research2,333,835976,50051,80957.913:112.39
CounterPunch2,392,780920,30065,18856.854:152.6
SPLC2,352,0001,200,00037,33373.081:521.96
Tablet Magazine2,172,0001,200,00045,66766.72:171.81
City Journal1,980,0001,200,00035,33369.781:461.65
VoltaireNet1,819,605774,30020,43361.781:352.35
StormFront1,773,354304,70027,42341.645:245.82
Rense.com1,640,0001,000,00034,72271.742:051.64
Antiwar.com1,472,562678,60031,29161.332:462.17
Consortium News1,221,304540,40020,11561.622:142.26
Veterans Today1,168,200531,00020,65049.022:202.20
The Cradle1,121,247473,10028,64953.523:382.37
VDare1,100,803435,10032,27043.554:272.53
Strategic Culture1,047,564415,70013,74156.491:592.52
The Grayzone934,029527,70014,95260.491:421.77
Off Guardian919,790446,50010,91454.471:282.06
The Baffler901,824469,70017,09261.92:111.92
Nation of Islam809,025167,50014,65636.356:154.83
Commentary Magazine692,445355,10022,39164.423:471.95
Occidental Dissent616,485168,90039,17531.0313:553.65
Harpers610,416376,8006,59472.041:031.62
Paul Craig Roberts607,614255,30010,21255.722:242.38
Occidental Observer596,578190,60010,80155.713:243.13
Renegade Tribune568,246219,40014,13959.883:522.59
Mintpress News531,100235,0008,94365.712:172.26
CounterCurrents.org425,440265,9004,57975.131:021.60
The Duran388,411166,7009,95647.533:352.33
Chronicles360,192214,4004,28870.771:121.68
In These Times340,614228,6003,23974.30:511.49
Information Clearinghouse328,442169,30010,11158.153:351.94
MondoWeiss314,600220,0003,97273.691:051.43
Swiss Propaganda283,338174,9002,28369.650:471.62
Red Ice187,75075,1002,52436.042:012.50
TomDispatch180,895126,5004,42864.162:061.43
Russia Insider179,36094,4004,09167.062:361.90
Anti-Empire150,92077,0001,13461.090:531.96
Op Ed News119,66038,6002,86363.484:273.10
Tom Woods117,57950,9001,52742.061:482.31
Culture Wars109,20031,2001,32644.642:333.50
TruthDig105,45662,4002,42768.572:201.69
Dissident Voice89,46042,0001,15561.241:392.13
WhoWhatWhy82,94457,6001,12073.591:101.44
National Justice49,20020,50058735.591:432.40
IHR47,72831,40051556.520:591.52
 
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  1. Charles says:

    For astute long-time commenters this is a re-run, but…TUR is the most important site on the Net because of the all-but-banned books Ron has provided that can be read and downloaded completely for free. I can make an iron-clad guarantee that no matter how pragmatic or even jaded you believe yourself to be, reading Erectus Walks Amongst Us (within the “controversial” sub-group) will make you marvel at the bravery of the man, now deceased, who published it in 2007.

  2. Hilarious to see neo-Nazi tabloids like Daily Stormer being in 3rd position in total pageviews. Despite being arguably the most censored publication on the planet. In total visitors, they are falling far behind, suggesting an unhealthy obsession among the readership. Seems congruent with my impression of internet Nazis. Few but extremely fanatical.

    I am somewhat surprised to see the collapse of Quillette.

    A few years ago, it seemed to be a publication on the rise. I never read them much, but people who did told me that Claire Lehman’s hardline opposition to anti-vaxxers and her own pro-lockdown views ruined what was once a flourishing magazine. Apparently, she banned opposing viewpoints and enforced her own views on the whole publication.

    To be clear, I am personally triple-vaxxed but I believe strongly in free speech. People who have skepticism about the vaccines should be able to voice those views. What’s the point of being an alternative platform if you don’t allow alternative views? People should be free to disagree with one another.

  3. A123 says: • Website

    The Conservative Treehouse is an excellent counter point in terms of engagement. It has relatively few articles, but there is an expectation of substance and quality across all of them. It is #5 by total view time. Note: While I use UR site functionality to promote Treehouse, I am not affiliated with the site in any way.

    How the mighty have fallen. Naked Capitalism was insightful after the finance issues of 2008. Then it rapidly became useless dross. By 2015 it degraded to Establishment shill with its anti-BREXIT crazy.

    That the absurd Veteran’s Today made the list at all is shocking. They are less credible than MSNBC which takes substantial effort at achieving maximal dishonesty.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Irish Savant
    , @Kermit
  4. You are open to everybody, but the people who post here are relentlessly pro-Russian. With the exception perhaps of me – last year you did publish a piece of mine on the Ukrainian language that originally appeared on vDare.

    Are you open to contributions with another point of view? Celia Farber and I have been having a useful and polite exchange about Ukraine on her Substack. It might interest your readers. There are many well credentialed writers I know would be happy to contribute if we got something going.

  5. Ironic that Ron Unz and Glenn Greenwald, two of the bravest journalists out there, are both Jewish.

  6. Sam Smith says:

    It’s interesting to see Alex Jones at the top. Talk about a co-opted alternative media, Infowars must have taken over some of Rush Limbaugh’s listeners.

    The other co-opted alternative media personality that I have had some experience with is Rense. Another egomaniac only interested in his six digit annual income from his advertisers. His news articles are all supplied by a few of his key followers. He plays “editor” with the news titles.

    It’s good to see UNZ, Saker and the Moon of Alabama high on the list. I believe these three are the best alternative news analysis website on the Internet.

    Congrats 👏🎉👍 Ron!

  7. @A123

    I’ve always been puzzled by Veterans Today. What’s their game? What or who drives them?

    • Replies: @A123
  8. Just my 2 cents worth – I would like to see every web site that accepts money from “donors” make public the information on who their larger donors are. Including the CIA cut-out fronts that make donations to them.

    The same for EVERY so-called “charitable” organization that operates in the United States.

    Thank you.

    • Agree: Irish Savant
  9. A123 says: • Website
    @Irish Savant

    I’ve always been puzzled by Veterans Today. What’s their game? What or who drives them?

    It is clearly run by Jihadists. And, very dumb ones… VT tried to sell the Nasrallah-shima blast at the Port of Beirut as some sort of missile attack. FAKE…..

     

     

    Everyone who has looked at the Nasrallah-shima blast understands that the source was ~3MM tons of NH₄NO₃ stored at Hezbollah Munitions Depot #12.

    PEACE 😇

    • Troll: Notsofast
    • Replies: @Irish Savant
    , @cohen
  10. Chris Moore says: • Website

    IMO, nearly the entire reason for the Unz Review’s resounding success is because it tolerates “anti-Semitic” content.

    Of course, regular readers know there is nothing “anti-Semitic” about Unz.com at all; rather, it’s opposed to Satanists, Moneychangers, Globalists, and Professional Grifters — basically, the entire US establishment since it was co-opted and reconstituted by ZOG.

    • Agree: Irish Savant, profnasty
    • LOL: Realist
  11. ‘…With comments on our website being very lightly moderated, we usually accrue a million additional words each week, thereby providing a public forum for regular discussion of all sorts of controversial topics banned almost everywhere else. Much of this material may be ignorant or insane, but those willing to mine the low-grade ore will discover a considerable sprinkling of gems…’

    I was reassured to realize that this is just about how I appraise the site myself. Sometimes I wish certain topics would…go away. In my view, they are indeed ‘ignorant or insane’ and serve only to marginalize the site.

    But I can’t think of any way of doing that wouldn’t turn out to be a cure worse than the disease, so there it is. If we want to see a platform for our own perfectly rational view that lizard people control humanity, we just have to put up with someone else insisting the moon landings were faked.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
  12. Liza says:

    I would consider The Epoch Times an alternative outlet. It’s run by anticommunist Chinese. FWIW.

    • Replies: @Sam Smith
  13. Sam Smith says:

    BTW, where is the “almighty” zerohedge on this list?!?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  14. Sam Smith says:
    @Liza

    The Epoch Times is a cult-infested yellow rag that is completely anti-China, runned and funded by the Falun Gong cult.

    Go pimp your anti-China bullshit somewhere else.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Alden
  15. Glenn Greenwald and other board members (Snowden, Ellsberg etc… used Freedom of Press (that Julian Assange created originally for Snowden) to vehemently sandbag Julian Assange by blocking donations to Wikileaks. Greenwald has since removed himself from the board of members to try and duck out from any accountability and keep this information from getting any airwaves. But history can’t be forgotten. Julian Assange was really hurt by this, and paying the ultimate price, they’ve silenced him from holding them to account. What’s more aggressively horrifying is the NATO backed performance wedding that Julian Assange never attended, if he had they’d have released evidence. This was an entire ruse to placate the masses and keep Julian Assange mute and hostage. Freedom of Press and every mainstream outlet went along with this abuse of Julian’s rights and well being, concocting a ridiculous wedding with a incel bride and as Julian’s close and personal friend, I too am affected horribly by this. The Freedom of Press must be called out and Julian Assange needs a lifeline to get his voice and speech back out into the public so he can defend himself.

  16. JimBo-234 says:

    I retired a few years ago, with a very modest pension, and hated the idea of ending up like my father. His retirement consisted of watching daytime television & ‘tippling’.

    Fortunately, I’ve spent my retirement days going for long walks and, as a discriminating news-junkie, checking out the Unz Review each day (as well as a few other sites). I enjoy listening to the audio versions of TUR articles while doing household tasks.

    Thank you for creating this amazing webzine, Ron.

  17. Liza says:
    @Sam Smith

    Go pimp your anti-China bullshit somewhere else.

    You don’t have to be so damn mean. I did not know anything about any cult. All I know is that a free copy of The Epoch Times showed up in our mailbox and then later I looked it up on the interwebz. They seemed sincere from the few articles I read.

    TUR sure seems to attract some nasty-tempered people but hey, I’m not naming names, as that would not be gracious.

    • Agree: TKK
    • Troll: Sam Smith
  18. Ron Unz says:
    @Sam Smith

    BTW, where is the “almighty” zerohedge on this list?!?

    My original intent was to focus on publications roughly in the same size range as ours, but since I included Infowars and National Review, I probably should have also done so with others as well. I’ve now added ZeroHedge and the Epoch Times.

    • Replies: @xyzxy
    , @Sam Smith
  19. Thank you Ron. That was a much needed look at the alt media landscape that arrived almost perfectly on cue. I had a discussion with a friend yesterday about sources of information and your table at the end was exactly what was missing from it.

    I do miss Mike Ruppert , and I find John Micheal Greer, at ecospohia.net to be a source of sanity and reason that is far, far beyond anything anybody else has done when it comes to describing the likely trajectory of human “progress”. His comments software sucks badly compared to yours, but his big picture take on current events is refreshing, clear and ultimately, usefully optimistic for those of us that think humanity as it currently stands has entirely lost the plot. First time readers need to be aware that Greer is a druid, magician, a science fiction writer. A good place to start is his essay on Global Warming.

    • Agree: Cortes
  20. @A123

    Thanks, and it makes sense. Kevin Barret is of course a Muslim. But why do they discredit themselves, seemingly deliberately, by publishing risible easily-disproven nonsense every so often?

    • Replies: @A123
  21. Anon[390] • Disclaimer says:

    What is the time frame for the table at the and?

  22. @Irish Savant

    (((Pierre Omidyar))).

    Ron Unz? He’s the exception

    that proves the (((rule))).

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Irish Savant
  23. @Irish Savant

    Ironic that Ron Unz and Glenn Greenwald, two of the bravest journalists out there, are both Jewish.

    This kind of talk is what gives healthy ‘antisemitism’ a bad name. (I’m using the modern American definition of ‘antisemitism’ here – viz., ‘someone who expresses a dislike for any Jew’: it obviously has nothing to do with any realistic etymology since most American Jews are genetically non-Semitic).

    Greenwald is ‘Jewish’ the same way I am ‘Maori’ – it contributed to his genome through his parents, but barely informs his weltanschauung.

    In a very real sense my sense of being a Maori (and a Kiwi) is far more front-and-centre than Greenwald’s Jewish identity, with Greenwald’s being basically non-existent.

    Greenwald didn’t have a Bar Mitzvah, and has made it very clear that the fact that his parents were Jewish does not influence his moral views in any way.

    In fact Richard Feynman had a more Jewish upbringing than Greenwald, and Feynman specifically repudiated Judaism when he was included – without his knowledge or permission – in a book of famous Jewish Nobel Prize winners: his letter to Tina Levitan was pretty scathing. (I’m reasonably sure that Feynman did have a Bar Mitzvah, and that he was sent to Jewish school on weekends as a kiddie: IIRC both are mentioned in “Surely You’re Joking, Mr Feynman” which everyone must read).

    Anyway… the fact that Greenwald (like Feynman) does not follow any religious doctrine is far more important than his genetic inheritance.

    This ‘One-Drop Jewishness‘ is equally bad on both sides, and on ‘our’ side it has to stop. It tars perfectly decent people – people who have the ethically correct view of the abhorrent behaviour of Peak Jewry – with the same brush as the likes of Kagan, Adelson, and Netanyahu (Mielekowski).

    Obviously it pays to properly ‘screen’ any Jew who seems to be on ‘our’ side – but that level of due diligence should really be applied to non-Jews as well.

    Oh, and inb4 Jewish DNA gave Greenwald his high (verbal) IQ“. Whatever: believe Yanklish-Jewish marketing all you want. Did “Maori-ness” help my grades at school and uni? Did it help my uncle become a cardiologist? Did it cause my other uncle to get prostate cancer?

    Nope, three times. It does give us all a temper at times – and of course we have no qualms about eating pakeha if the shit hits the fan.

    • Agree: Wizard of Oz
    • Thanks: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  24. A123 says: • Website
    @Irish Savant

    …Muslim. But why do they discredit themselves, seemingly deliberately, by publishing risible easily-disproven nonsense every so often?

    It is the 2nd Pillar of Islam — Taqiyya — Thou must lie to the Infidel.

    I will continue under [MORE] as this is off-topic.

    [MORE]

    Here is a good summary of the religious pillar of dishonesty that practiced by the followers of the Anti-Christ Muhammad: (1)

    There are several forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, the best known being taqiyya (the Shia name). These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam – in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them

    Quran (16:106) – Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

    Quran (3:28) – This verse instructs believers not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves” against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.

    Quran (9:3) – “…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals – see Ibn Kathir vol 4, p 49)

    Quran (66:2) – “Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths…” For today’s reader, the circumstances for betraying your word are not specified, leaving this verse open to interpretation. According to Yusuf Ali in his commentary: “if your vows prevent you from doing good, or acting rightly, or making peace between persons, you should expiate the vow.” (Presumably, whatever advances the cause of Islam would qualify as ‘doing good’).

    Quran (40:28) – A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.

    Quran (2:225) – “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts” (see also 5:89)

    Quran (3:54) – “And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which means ‘cunning,’ ‘guile’ and ‘deceit’. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)

    Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx

    • Agree: Odyssey
    • Replies: @Irish Savant
  25. JackOH says:

    I read a bit of opinion journalism the last 40-some years, mostly in the mainstream press. Editorials and op-eds in my local paper, The Plain Dealer, WSJ, NYT, etc.

    I don’t think anything really addressed my increasing “belly-feel” that there was something fundamental in America that had gone terribly wrong, and that our opinion leaders didn’t have the backbone to deal with an America gone big-time wobbly.

    So, UR offers brawling and sometimes erudite opinion that I can’t recall reading in a long time. I’m grateful to read it, and to participate a bit. No one has to agree with the articles or comments to recognize something extraordinary is going on here.

  26. xyzxy says:
    @Ron Unz

    I’ve now added ZeroHedge and the Epoch Times.

    There is some sort of symbiosis between ZH and ET. It became quite evident over the past year or year and a half. Probably twenty to thirty percent of the ZH content is sourced from the Falun Gong associated ET. Because of that organization’s anti-mainland stance, it wouldn’t surprise me if CIA money was funneled to ET, but who can say?

    • Agree: Sam Smith
    • Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
    , @Realist
  27. Sam Smith says:
    @Ron Unz

    Wow! Zerohedge and the Epoch Times are soulmates! At the top of the list!

    The so-called “news articles” found on the cult yellow rag, the Epoch Times, are often re-posted on Zerohedge.

    Both are anti-China to an extreme. I think Zerohedge is extremely anti-China because one of its owners, Kyle Bass, made a wrong bet on shorting the Hong Kong dollar. Now, he is on a mission to destroy the CPC! I could be wrong on this, so don’t nail me to the cross . . .

    The Falun Gong cult newspaper, the Epoch Times, is anti-China because China kicked out their “spiritual leader” and now they are on a “mission from God” to destroy the CPC!

    • Replies: @A123
    , @KAPER
  28. A123 says: • Website
    @Sam Smith

    The so-called “news articles” found on the cult yellow rag, the Epoch Times, are often re-posted on Zerohedge.

    Pat Buchanan is posted on Zero Hedge.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/buchanan-how-liberal-elites-detest-middle-america
    ___

    Gasp… cult yellow rag author… Peep Escobar is heavily featured at Zero Hedge.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/escobar-rules-based-international-order-unraveling-much-faster-expected
    ____

    Adding data about ZH is interesting, but only marginally useful as a comparison.

    ZH has a vast flood of articles every day. I suspect that most visitors use it as long form, mass link collector. I perceive no overall zeitgeist being driven by the article selection. Between poor commenting software and questionable commentariat, ZH adds little value added beyond selecting stories ignored by the Fake Stream Media [FSM].

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Sam Smith
  29. @Colin Wright

    The Chinese have had censorship for 2000 years, and their solution to ignorant or insane statements is even better than Singapore’s. https://www.unz.com/article/the-china-hoax/

  30. KAPER says:
    @Sam Smith

    Sir, Would you please let me know an informative website on China?

    • Replies: @Sam Smith
    , @nsa
  31. Ron Unz says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    (((Pierre Omidyar))).

    That’s interesting. I’d never heard that Omidyar was Jewish and there doesn’t seem to be any indication of that on his Wikipedia page.

    If you Google “Omidyar Jewish”, there’s a bunch of articles by various pro-Israel groups ferociously denouncing him for supporting anti-Israel activists, and none of those seem to accuse him of being a “self-hating Jew.”

    Do you have any solid references for your claim?

  32. @Colin Wright

    If we want to see a platform for our own perfectly rational view that lizard people control humanity, we just have to put up with someone else insisting the moon landings were faked.

    LOL (and KEK) but

    As I’ve mentioned before, I think that David Icke’s talk about ‘lizard people’ is specifically designed to make people think he’s a nutter. That makes him almost immune to being sued.

    If he had been known as someone who publicly claimed “Prince Andrew is a paedophile” he would have been sued into the poorhouse before you could say “Epstein didn’t kill himself”.

    Instead, Icke says “Prince Andrew is a Space Lizard, and so is his Mum… and by the way I’m probably Jesus, but I’m not entirely sure.” and Andy and his Mum (and their advisors) think “Everyone will think he’s clearly out of his mind“.

    Icke’s been right about the UK political class since he first wrote about Heath and Saville being ‘lizard people’ (which actually means “kiddie-fiddlers involved in child sacrifice”). Heath was dead by that time, so he wasn’t going to sue, but Saville was still alive… but the downside of any lawsuit (the ‘Streisand Effect’) would have more-than-offset any harm that could have been done to Icke.

    If Icke’s ‘lizard people’ stuff is taken as esoteric it is a bit like Lynch’s visual references to garmonbozia in Twin Peaks: garmonbozia – the sustenance of the denizens of the Black Lodge – is not literally creamed corn; it doesn’t literally look like creamed corn. Garmonbozia is actually human misery. I think that is made explicit – exoteric – in the show because Lynch decided against the idea of hoping that a fragment of the TV audience would work it out. (Even then there’s a hedge: I think the dialogue only refers to ‘negative energy’… but it’s clear that these creatures thrive on human misery specifically).

    The ‘lizard people’ schtick helps to split the audience into ‘insiders’ and ‘outsiders’, and Icke probably hit upon that as a result of recognising its usefulness to Freemasons, Christianity and other ‘closed shop’ organisations.

    (Anyone who thinks that Christianity does not have an esoteric/exoteric split is kidding themselves, and almost certainly only understands the New Nonsense exoterically – especially the Pauline stuff, which was the earliest).

    The thing I always say about the ‘garmonbozia idea: would anybody be surprised if it turned out to be true?

    What if people (or pseudo-people) like Blair and Cheney actually sustained themselves on human misery?

    What if their goal wasn’t just the mundane expansion of their wealth and power: what if instead it was to expand the total flow of human misery in the world?

    How would the world be any different?

    • Thanks: antitermite
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  33. A123 says: • Website

    Mr. Unz,

    Do you have statistics for REMIX NEWS?

    https://rmx.news/

    They are heavily focused on Visegrád 4 reporting, and are doing excellent work aggregating stories that the EU/WEF are desperately trying suppress. As a Christian, REMIX is now on my daily *must read* list.

    For example: (1)

    ‘The anti-democratic forces in the EU have suffered a disastrous defeat’ – Poland’s ruling conservatives celebrate Meloni’s victory in Italy

    Michał Wójcik, who is a minister in the PiS government and a close associate of Justice Minister Zbigniew Ziobro, said Italy is returning to normality.

    “The representative of the anti-democratic forces in the EU, Ursula von der Leyen, has suffered a disastrous defeat. The right has won the election in Italy! This is the end of abnormality in the EU and rule by manipulators in the EC,” he wrote

    Video / Tweet below [MORE]

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://rmx.news/poland/the-anti-democratic-forces-in-the-eu-have-suffered-a-disastrous-defeat-polands-ruling-conservative-celebrates-melonis-victory-in-italy/

    [MORE]

  34. Sam Smith says:
    @A123

    Listen, you are not a Tyler Durden bare-knuckle fighter like I am. I have been commentating on news blogs since 2003 on Free Republic.

    Did I ever call ZH a “yellow rag”? I call them “anti-China”. Guess who else publicly states this? Pepe Escobar! That’s because EVERY article on China is NEGATIVE, and a lot of them are reposts of trash from the Epoch Times.

    I did call the Epoch Times a yellow rag because that’s what it is.

    Is Pepe Escobar featured in the Epoch Times?!?

    Fu*k PEACE!

    Let the WAR against the Empire of All-Lies begin!

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
  35. Sam Smith says:
    @KAPER

    For informative website on China, I highly suggest China’s CGTN Documentary Series in YouTube:

    You will discover a China, the real China, that is NOT reported in the Western mainstream or alternative media.

    Two other very informative YouTube channels are the following:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwHUYtwH5E41O6MiYoC19ng/videos (look for the English titled videos)

    https://www.youtube.com/c/JasonLightfootLivinginChina/videos (British expat living in China experiences)

  36. @xyzxy

    Agree. Falun Gong is CIA for sure. Touring the world holding meetings which are all about cursing the CCP. Anti-CCP propaganda. All about overthrow of a sovereign Chinese government. So, who is behind the Falun Gong?

    • Agree: Sam Smith
  37. @Liza

    All I know is that a free copy of The Epoch Times showed up in our mailbox and then later I looked it up on the interwebz. They seemed sincere from the few articles I read.

    A chum of mine recently gave me some sort of sample copy to me that showed up at her home as well (apparently TET is light on sports coverage and so held no interest for her). I have not done much more than glance at it so far, but it seems a light, breezy read, and features the sort of “controversial” (read right-wing) stories you find at the better websites.

    Great stuff.

    It is not uncommon to find people who, for some reason, seem pretty wound up about the fact that TET is put out by the Falun Gong and criticises the CCP. Hilarious. All I know is Zuckerbook has banned TET advertising outright and YooToob selectively bans their ads, so they must be doing something right.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: Liza
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  38. @Thulean Friend

    Claire Lehmann went with The Science (Matt M. Briggs) in the Corona case. She does not know enough pilosophy (or Western intellectual history), to overcome this grave mistake.
    It’s impressive, how much her methodical shortcomings affected the click-rates of Quillette; – and how little RonUnz’ mistakes with regard to Covid-deaths for example influenced the Unz Review readership.
    The difference that matters is – : – For Ron Unz free speech is more important than – Ron Unz. – He (still) respects the ideals and dreams of his youth (Friedrich von Schiller in Don Carlos).

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: Adam Smith
  39. It’s nice to see these numbers but I fear they could be misleading. There are lots of republished articles on UNZ, but even the most popular ones seem to reach only a small audience, and probably always the same audience. There are hardly any shares on Twitter. But my biggest concern is that UNZ is putting serious authors next to dubious authors and cranks, and this is really damaging the reputation of the serious authors. The failure of the Intercept is well known, even Greenwald said this.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  40. So I just checked the daily unique visitors of UNZ, and it’s only 11,000. And it’s probably the same 11,000 every day. This is what I feared. I believe it’s because UNZ has mostly republications instead of original content, and because the crank authors have destroyed the reputation of the website, so nobody is sharing it even if there is an interesting article every now and then. To be honest as an author I would not want to be published on UNZ.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
    , @Liza
  41. So I found the monthly Unique Visitors of UNZ on Ubersuggest, and it’s only about 30,000 people. That’s it. Most articles reach very few people, Steve Sailer and Michelle Malkin seem to be doing best. I think this is rather disappointing. My suggestion is that Ron should think about how to reach more readers, not how to churn out more articles to the same existing readers. But I fear this is no longer possible because the reputation of the website is already tainted.

  42. SafeNow says:

    “those willing to mine the low-grade ore will discover a considerable sprinkling of gems”
    – Ron Unz

    The concept is correct, but “considerable sprinkling” is far too modest. “A wealth of” would be more accurate. This website encompasses both a university education of information, and a pub of interesting and touching personal anecdotes and viewpoints. Ron focuses on page views and similar quantitative aspects. Of course, these are crucial. Quality is subjective, and almost impossible to measure. But in my opinion for what it’s worth, no other webzine approaches the quality accessible at Unz University & Pub.

  43. Sam Smith says:
    @JackOH

    I don’t think anything really addressed my increasing “belly-feel” that there was something fundamental in America that had gone terribly wrong, and that our opinion leaders didn’t have the backbone to deal with an America gone big-time wobbly.

    This “belly-feel” or feeling that something is not right and you still plow on is called “cognitive dissonance”. Look it up. It affects all cult members even citizens in a cult nation which is what the USA really is!

  44. @Irish Savant

    Ironic that Ron Unz and Glenn Greenwald, two of the bravest journalists out there, are both Jewish.

    Ironic. Assange is White — as in Gentile. The beast of burden to carry the promotion of G.Greenwald. When does he (Assange) get published here at unz.com? As to Greenwald. Another Good Jew on the team.

    For giving Assange a platform, we will have to wait for a while. No e-books in the making?

    Good Jews need Bad Jews to feed the text mining algorithms that keep Jews in the News.

    • Replies: @Liza
  45. Realist says:
    @xyzxy

    There is some sort of symbiosis between ZH and ET. It became quite evident over the past year or year and a half. Probably twenty to thirty percent of the ZH content is sourced from the Falun Gong associated ET.

    I noticed that too. ZH is most definitely anti-China.

  46. I do rely upon your personal judgment on the Covid vaccines. You are pretty level headed in a sea of so many different opinions.

  47. @Haxo Angmark

    Omidyar is not Jewish. I have an Iranian friend who lives in Scotland and I just checked with her. She said Iranians would be well aware if he were Jewish.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  48. @Kratoklastes

    I agree. I hate to see all Jews tarred with the same brush and worry when such a reasonable opinion draws down the Furies on me. For the record I see Jews as head-and-tail of every destructive trend that bedevils the West today but as ZH poster New Yoik Yankee said “It’s the Jews. But not all Jews and not only Jews”.

  49. Ron Unz says:
    @Timothy M.

    So I just checked the daily unique visitors of UNZ, and it’s only 11,000. And it’s probably the same 11,000 every day…

    I’m extremely skeptical of those numbers because they’re so far below those provided by every reputable third-party source, as well as our own internal metrics.

    • Replies: @Timothy M.
  50. @Ron Unz

    You may be confusing unique visitors with page views or visits. If there are 2 million visits per month, and about 200 pieces per month on UNZ, that’s about 10,000 visits per piece, and many of these may be return visits by the same people discussing the piece. So it’s just a few thousand actual readers per piece, about 10,000 per day, about 30,000 per month, and probably not many more per year. That’s the little UNZ community, and there are almost no shares on Twitter. I mean, how could I share a link to UNZ if the first piece on display is “Putin is fighting against the evil Jews?” No way.

  51. Liza says:

    For Commentary magazine, there are two figures in the second to last column. I think that the poor programmer was overworked!

  52. @Timothy M.

    I mean don’t get me wrong, I appreciate your commitment to free speech, I was just trying to point out why UNZ is not reaching more people. It’s just a few thousand people producing these page views, and churning out more republications by crank authors is probably not going to change this situation.

    • Replies: @fnn
  53. Liza says:
    @Timothy M.

    Couldn’t we do the same analysis (downgrading) of the popularity of all those other sites as well? Not that I understand how it all works, anyway. Just saying.

    • Replies: @Timothy M.
  54. @Liza

    Yes, a comparison of unique visitors per day and month would be much better to rank these websites.

    One thing is actual readers per website. So UNZ is churning out 200 pieces per month and is reaching a few thousand readers per piece and about 30,000 per month.

    The other thing is republications. So for instance the website of Paul Craig Roberts looks rather small in the list above, but we all know he is getting republished in many places, like Zero Hedge. So his total reach is actually much larger. And this is the case with many of these Substack authors, too.

    But UNZ is not getting republished very often, because most pieces are already republications, and other pieces are about the evil Jews or what not.

    So I suspect that if we compare unique visitors or total reach, UNZ may actually rank much lower, which is why there are hardly any shares on Twitter.

    And to change this UNZ would need to reach new readers, outside of the UNZ village, but I suspect this is rather difficult at the moment. I think it would require a new strategy.

    • Thanks: Liza
    • Replies: @No One of Note
  55. fnn says:
    @Timothy M.

    That site shows therightstuff.biz with only 16 “organic” visitors (whatever they mean by “organic”). The feds alone must generate more traffic than that, not even counting ADL, SPLC, Antifa and the purely amateur witch hunters/doxxers.

    • Replies: @Timothy M.
    , @Timothy M.
  56. JackOH says:
    @Timothy M.

    FWIW–I’m inclined to think some of the rhetorical aggro, the wild ‘n’ crazy language you sometimes read here, is a direct consequence of constructively censored moderate free speech.

    For example, I’m personally okay with Jews. Some are guests in my house. I defer to Phil Giraldi on the excesses of AIPAC in manipulating our Congress. I’m a Holocaust Lite guy–Jews were indeed singled out for awful treatment, the “death camps” narrative is still awaiting a solid verdict, and I abhor reducing the complexity of WWII to an all-about-Jews story line.

    That makes me an “anti-Semite” in today’s America. I don’t lash out here at all–I don’t think. Can you see where I might have reason to lash out at being unfairly marginalized as a political creep for exercising ordinary powers of rational examination?

    I don’t intend to start a quarrel, but I tend to see a lot of legitimate hurt here from an American gone wrong.

    • Replies: @Timothy M.
  57. @fnn

    The Right Stuff has about 2,500 unique visitors per day. Their embedded videos have just a few hundred views. The website has a paywall for most content.

  58. @JackOH

    yes, yes of course. I was just thinking of ways to reach more readers and new readers. You don’t reach new readers if the same existing readers just read more articles or more extreme articles.

    • Thanks: JackOH
  59. @A123

    Thanks. FWIW I have no illusions about the Religion Of Peace.

  60. @fnn

    Zero Hedge has about 180,000 daily unique visitors on average, according to this tool: https://www.siteprice.org/Tools/website-traffic-checker.aspx

    It seems reasonable because their articles typically have about 20,000 to 50,000 or 100,000 views, and some viral articles have 500,000 to one million views.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  61. Bill says:
    @Graham Seibert

    Indeed, if there’s one thing the English language media need, it’s more pro-Ukraine perspectives.

    • Replies: @Drive-by poster
  62. meamjojo says:

    “Yet by the time of Greenwald’s angry resignation in October 2020, I was shocked to discover that the readership of the Intercept was only 50% greater than ours. That advantage had dropped to just 8% by January of this year, and today our traffic is more than 20% greater.”

    You should offer Greenwald a publication spot.

  63. @Thulean Friend

    I never read them much, but people who did told me that Claire Lehman’s hardline opposition to anti-vaxxers and her own pro-lockdown views ruined what was once a flourishing magazine. Apparently, she banned opposing viewpoints and enforced her own views on the whole publication.

    One of the few good things to come out of the Covid business is that is has shown the world in clear and conspicuous terms who has a totalitarian outlook and who does not.

    I do not think there is much mistaking who is who at this point.

    (It is also somewhat amusing to watch militant, “if you don’t want it we will make up your mind for you,” pro-vax types try to walk back their strident rhetoric regarding the vaccines now that time has proven them to be somewhat less than the foolproof deal they were initially made out to be.)

  64. @Bill

    Indeed, if there’s one thing the English language media need, it’s more pro-Ukraine perspectives.

    I have been led to understand that most if not all of the Western MSM media are pro-Ukraine and that anyone who lives in the West need only turn on the television of pick up an MSM newspaper to get the pro-Ukraine view.

    Is this not so?

  65. 迪路 says:
    @Irish Savant

    Well, depending on how you define Jews, I prefer to define the enemy as financial Jews.
    My point is that Karl Marx said that the Jewish spirit fits the entrepreneurial spirit.
    I believe that only by freeing the Jews from Judaism can this extreme worship of money be bound to moral bondage, so that mankind will not come to the end because of the misdeeds of the Jews.

  66. Sam Smith says:

    Here’s a very accurate opinion piece just posted on RT about the Falun Gong cult and its peddling of fake news:

    https://www.rt.com/news/563597-rumours-xi-jinping-china/

    They do it almost like cult members chanting mantras to effect physical change: If we just pray harder, it will come true.

    If we just all visualize, wish, pray Xi Jinping getting removed from power, it will happen! So let’s spread the fake news of Xi under house arrest…

  67. Ron Unz says:
    @Timothy M.

    Zero Hedge has about 180,000 daily unique visitors on average, according to this tool: https://www.siteprice.org/Tools/website-traffic-checker.aspx

    It seems reasonable because their articles typically have about 20,000 to 50,000 or 100,000 views, and some viral articles have 500,000 to one million views.

    That traffic website you’re using seems like it might be a scam, or at least totally unreliable. SimilarWeb is the industry leader, and it claims that ZeroHedge is getting well over a million daily visits rather than just 180K.

    And upthread, you’d claimed that Michelle Malkin is one of our most popular authors, but when I just checked, her columns only account for a fraction of one percent of our traffic, much less than most others.

    You’ve never previously commented on this website, and now you’ve suddenly have left a profusion of comments suggesting that our readership is much too low and we should stop publishing “dubious authors and cranks” in order to solve that problem.

    I wonder if you’re what’s known as “a concern troll”…

    • Agree: Bro43rd, Alden
  68. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Timothy M.

    Agreed. I’ve seen a number of excellent writers (actually, only two), who want to get their message out but hate being in the same group as Anglin and the other less thoughtful writers.

    • Disagree: Odyssey
    • Replies: @fnn
  69. @Timothy M.

    LOL. I think Ron Unz is more than capable of understanding the differences, especially after running a fairly large web site for a decade on software he mostly wrote himself.

  70. @Drive-by poster

    Surely that was said tongue-in-cheek.

    • Agree: Liza
  71. fnn says:
    @Anonymous

    But they fail to notice Anglin is the greatest satirist now writing in the English language? Is there another candidate? He’s certainly a lot better than Jim Goad.

  72. cohen says:

    I suppose UNZ reader prefers quality over quantity.

    Zerohedge has a strange and commercial approach where commentators vote for most popular comments.

    As for Infowar, what can you say. I assume 37% of its reader think “Forest Gump” was a documentary.

  73. cohen says:

    Greenwald lost his credibility, in my view, when he refused to disclose the full content of Snowdon’s papers and instead presented selected/edited portion in his book.

    During the height of Chelsey Mannaing trial the readers of the old “fire Dog Lake blog” banded together and did an excellent time line analysis of the “mole” NSA was using to trap Manning. Greenwald used those figures in one of his well written article but failed to give the credit to “Frie dog Lake” contributors.

    The intercept became “The Intercepted” a trap for whistle blowers. Matt Taibbi was the smartest among the bunch to get out.

  74. cohen says:
    @A123

    Look The Shameless fool Israeli agent (some people name his as Troll) is back.

    Hey I got more goodies for this fool who does not quit despite being the most despised commentator. Ironically, he carefully and meticulously keeps a record of people who are pissed at him.

    Q: why the male infants get herpes
    A: Blame the unclean Rabbis who suck the blood from infant’s wound after circumcision. And then spit in a cup of wine which is shared by others. Any comment

    Congratulation to all Talmudist in Israel getting red heifer from the State of Texas (big celebration on 15th of September in Israel). Are they going to burn the calf?

    A proud Talmud Rabbi acting like an “inspector general” checking the hair of calf using a magnifying glass in big spiritual ceremony in front of onlookers to validate the redness of the little animal.

    The funny thing was that he used his male enhancer device that he bought from a porn site. The rabbi was conned royally. He Paid for male parts enhancement device and when he opened the box there was big magnifying glass.

    • LOL: Alden, Maowasayali
  75. xyzxy says:

    Zerohedge has a strange and commercial approach where commentators vote for most popular comments.

    ZH has certainly morphed over the past couple of years. They began more as an investment oriented site, with a flair for the sensational. So you’d frequently read about the Yellowstone Caldera blowing its top, and humanity lost, over that.

    The anti-Chinese stuff happened later, shifting into high gear with the Corona Chan nonsense, which replaced the Caldera as humanity’s bugaboo. They’d run stories about how millions of people were set to die daily, and had already died because of what they called the ‘CCP Virus’– a deadly biological weapon let loose by the Communists in order to destroy the world. They essentially used the phony Covid rebranding of the flu as a political stick with which to hit the mainland. This, in keeping with their Falun Gong/Taiwan connection.

    Eventually commenters started to post about how the site was shilling the Gong. I think it must have been embarrassing for them. In any case, now that most everyone has realized the Covid scam for what it is, they’ve significantly backed away from that angle.

    Over the past couple of years their comment section deteriorated significantly. A lot of posts used to be funny and clever, showing real insight, but now it’s the usual “Democrats are the Problem, and if only Republicans were back in the saddle things would be better…” sort of shtick. Very low level. I think a lot of old time readers just gave up on participating.

    All in all ZH is a pretty mixed bag. Some good, some not so much. The point of course is to know the bias and sources of your news– with any site. Once you figure that out, you can more or less keep things in perspective.

    • Agree: Irish Savant
  76. It would be interesting if UNZ could display the views per piece. 2 million visits per month divided by 200 pieces per month is 10,000 visits per piece, and because of the discussion feature and return visits and old pieces, likely less than 10,000 readers per piece.

    Malkin and Sailer may not account for a large share of total traffic, but they seem to have had some successful pieces.

    For comparison, ZeroHedge is displaying the views per article, and normally it’s 20,000 to 100,000. Some viral pieces achieve more than that.

    So my point is UNZ is not reaching 2 million people, it’s just a few thousand. This could be improved, but it would require a new strategy.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @Ron Unz
  77. @Drive-by poster

    You don’t do this irony thingy, do you?

  78. Liza says:
    @Timothy M.

    So my point is UNZ is not reaching 2 million people, it’s just a few thousand.

    Sure beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

  79. @Sam Smith

    Tyler Durden, the alter ego of an individual undergoing a psychotic breakdown.

    Some hero.

    Post something on ZH that is true about Israel’s apartheid policies, and see how fast one can get banned from ZH.

    “Fight Club” has unwritten biases.

  80. Saker’s blog, in the past week, implemented a registration and approval process to have the ability to post comments.

    That may explain the recent drop in traffic.

  81. @Charles

    Agreed but, it’s also fair to point this out.

    and publications promoting the burgeoning anti-vaxxing movement have also done very well over the last year or two.

    The “anti-vaxxing” mentions by our host on this website are generally done with derision and skepticism. Unsubstantiated, imo. Therefore, rather suspect.

    Here’s what I’ll say: Thanks to the universe for Robt F. Kennedy, Jr. who has done yeoman’s work on exposing just how nasty much of the overall vaccine push is in this country (not just the Covid NON-vax).

    If anyone is interested, Kennedy and the Children’s Health Defense Org are conducting their first annual conference in Knoxville, TN on Oct 23-24. Solid list of speakers. I will likely attend. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-conference/

    • Thanks: meamjojo
  82. Ron Unz says:
    @Timothy M.

    So my point is UNZ is not reaching 2 million people, it’s just a few thousand. This could be improved, but it would require a new strategy.

    Look, you’re just a “concern-troll” spouting nonsense. SimilarWeb is generally considered the most authoritative third-party traffic monitoring system and their numbers roughly accord with our own metrics. We generally get tens of thousands of unique visitors every day, though obviously just a small fraction of the readership for ZeroHedge.

    Stop spamming with thread with your foolish comments.

  83. @Ron Unz

    I’ve been visiting ZeroHedge for a decade at least five days a week. So, I feel qualified to inform that “readership” at ZH is more like chattership (new word; I just created it).

    It has become vastly a social media platform with many admitting to “going straight to the comments” or “doing a skim and hitting the comments”.

    ZH puts up some decent articles (but, too much Kardashian-type trash the last few years) however, their visitor comment quality is far below yours. I learn alot from your authors and reader commenters and they often link to good resources I haven’t stumbled across elsewhere.

    Thumbs up!

  84. nsa says:
    @KAPER

    Asia Times (asiatimes.com) provides reasonably unbiased opinion concerning Asian politics and finance. It is run by another member of the tribe, David Goldman, who publishes under the pseudonym Spengler. Wars, both financial and military, are covered in depth. No comment section as the Asia Times attempts to maintain some kind of decorum.

  85. Dumbo says:
    @Thulean Friend

    The Daily Stormer is not a “Neo-nazi tabloid”. Its success is considerable considering that it is basically a one person operation, as far as we know. Quillete was always status quo, and Claire Lehman is Jewish.

    ZeroHedge and Epoch Times are well funded. Epoch Times is CIA/Falung Gong, I believe. Zero Hege is linked to them. Infowars is probably also CIA. National Cuckview is “alternative”? I thought they were the magazine of the Republican establishment. Must be well funded too.

  86. Sam Smith says:

    As a former commentator on Zerohedge, I concur with the comments above by The Real World, SaneClownPosse, and xyzxy about ZH. I won’t tell you which name I used but suffice to say that my comments were quite popular . . . until I got banned over Israeli criticism.

    ZH is runned by ghost writers. There are several “Tyler Durdens” cranking out news porn articles as fast as their keyboards and new news permit. Their world view is “libertarian” or “free market” in nature and their business model is to get as many eyeballs on each article as possible. Hence, the news porn approach. This just means that they try to sensationalize the news either via sensational news titles (click bait) or outrageous articles as described by xyzxy.

    Their financial backers include people like Kyle Bass and Paul Singer.

    Kyle Bass is a billionaire who shorted the Hong Kong (China) dollar and lost. He is very sore over his losing bet and hence he is extremely anti-China. I think he is the one that colors ZH’s extremely anti-China bent.

    Paul Singer is a Jewish billionaire who bought defaulted Argentina bonds for pennies on the dollar (a few hundreds of millions of USD) and, then under the Yankee stooge Macri, got full face value in the billions of USD. Paul Singer’s financial reports are regularly featured on ZH. He is probably the one who is responsible for ZH’s pro-Israeli/Jewish stance.

    Any critism of Israel and Jews on ZH gets you noted and, if you keep at it, they will ban you.

    Now, regarding the recent drop in traffic on the Saker’s blog, the quality of their guest writers are poor. Pepe Escobar is the only exception, but you can get Pepe here on UNZ. Since Andrei pulled back in writing sitreps on Ukraine, he has used guest writers to fill the gap. I believe that his earlier sitreps on Ukraine was what got him the huge bump in online traffic.

    The best Ukraine sitreps are now found on the Moon of Alabama blog, as was at the start of the SMO.

    • Agree: Arthur MacBride
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  87. A really interesting compilation.
    Haven’t ever heard of many of those sites.

    But some of them, alternative?
    The Intercept is notorious for being “the graveyard of whistleblowers”.

    Others are controlled to some degree.
    For example, Moon & Faker have completely swallowed the official coronapox narrative.
    They mostly trade in war porn which can be terribly addictive.
    But if I wanted a fix of that I’d just go to SouthFront (which cannot be listed due to sanctions).

    They all have biases, it’s helpful to know what they are before diving in.
    Whilst individual authors here at Unz have their own personal perspectives, I haven’t detected that this site as a whole is skewed in any way.

    A couple of sites that I frequent don’t feature – Investment Watch Blog & One World Press – but maybe their traffic isn’t sufficient enough to register.

    Also, I think The Babylon Bee deserves a mention.
    I know it’s just satire, but on a slow weekend, sometimes it’s the best place to find out what’s going on..

  88. meamjojo says:
    @Drive-by poster

    I have been led to understand that most if not all of the Western MSM media are pro-Ukraine and that anyone who lives in the West need only turn on the television of pick up an MSM newspaper to get the pro-Ukraine view

    The pro-Ukranian view is the correct and proper view, which is why it deserves overwhelming coverage in the MSM.

  89. meamjojo says:
    @xyzxy

    ZH is a good news aggregation source to pull from using their RSS feed. I don’t bother with the comments over there.

  90. Sam Smith says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron, you should add a “Views” counter, like the “number of words”, to each article like thesaker.is has for each of its articles. This gives the readers a sense of how popular or not each article is:

    Ron Unz . September 26, 2022. 20,000 Views . 2,900 Words . 83 Comments . Reply

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  91. Z-man says:
    @Irish Savant

    Ironic yes. As ‘Lurker’ said on this site ‘90% of Jews give the other 10% a bad name.’ LOL

  92. So, the CIA (Epoch Times) is number two.

  93. @xyzxy

    Zero Hedge runs many stories from ‘Epoch Times’ ie Falun Gong ie the CIA. QED.

  94. @Nervous in Stalingrad

    I used to collect the bulk Epoch Times left at my workplace and consign them to the waste bins, pronto.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  95. @Charles

    That’s exactly what my goofy short story was about, damnit (his out of Asia theory vs. out of Africa). A Homo Sapiens (some of the oldest remains having been found in or near present-day Israel) travels to Sub Saharan Africa, mates with an Erectus to produce the modern race (17% “ghost” ancestor) of Sub Saharan negroids. Then the bill comes due. Oh well.

  96. Odyssey says:

    I don’t think that is the point, as some suggest, to be positioned higher in the above list. This could be the ultimate goal of some publishers because of their personal prestige of some financial gains. In this case, tabloids would be doing the best and the number of readers and visits of their topics would count in millions. Others may try to build a readership of thinking people from around the globe on challenging topics which are important for our present and the future.

    Such topics are usually analytical, present hidden interconnections and root causes, sometimes represent the timespans of thousands of years, unlike for e.g., CNN which presents only what’s happened in last 24 hours. Presented are the alternative and challenging views and history falsifications which are often the cause of contemporary conflicts. I believe that Unz is such place, the congregation of thinking people from various backgrounds who can tolerate different opinions and where you can learn from intro texts and comments. If I find that I am wrong in my assessment, I will not be here anymore.

  97. @Kratoklastes

    Krato, you consistently hit ’em out of the park.

  98. @Ron Unz

    I’ve not agreed with your own opinions plenty of the time, but that doesn’t mean I’m not glad to see your good relative numbers, Mr. Unz. (I’m pleased to see your having listed Lew Rockwell’s site and Alex Jone’s Infowars on the list and their high standings too.*)

    I probably should know these answers but I don’t see the time duration for these stats Pageviews/Visits/Hours. Is that monthly? I also don’t know what “bounces” are.

    Thanks for your hard work.

    .

    * Has Alex Jones not been “cancelled” too? For me, it’s not that dang hard to remember (some will use “favorites” or “bookmarks”, or just completion) a url, your 3-letter one being the easiest, and simply type it in. I’m not sure what’s so hard about that for the general population.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  99. @The Real World

    I read ZeroHedge thoroughly, as in almost every post and all the comments under each I read, back in ’11 and ’12. There weren’t nearly so many posts (so I COULD read them all), but they were on the financial stupidity subject most of the time. I learned so much from this reading. I gotta say, at that point the commenters were smart, hilarious, and just a general good bunch – a community of friends*.

    I agree, TRW, that now the subjects seem more like clickbait some of the time. They are all of politics, not just the finance stuff that the “Tyler Durdens” used to concentrate on. The earlier version worked better for me. More importantly, the site got fancy and ad-heavy, and I gave up trying to read a page that wouldn’t settle down to let me read it for a minute or two.** Additionally, the comments are not in a format I like anymore, and the commenters are not of the same quality.\

    .

    * I did not comment there.

    ** That’s unlike this site, with the exception of long comment threads with tweets in them. I’m pretty sure that’s my fault anyway for having too many tabs up for the memory of my device. I am very pleased with the commenting system here too.

  100. The evil is that if you learn to earn and count easy money, nothing else matters to you anymore. Not even your own mother and in that there are no midpoints, honesty cannot be weighed or measured.

  101. Ron Unz says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I probably should know these answers but I don’t see the time duration for these stats Pageviews/Visits/Hours. Is that monthly? I also don’t know what “bounces” are.

    Those are all monthly figures, which I’d thought was clear, though I’ve now added that explicitly.

    “Hours” means total hours supposedly spent on the website, while “bounces” mean the percentage of visitors that leave after just a single page.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  102. @Timothy M.

    If there are 2 million visits per month, and about 200 pieces per month on UNZ, that’s about 10,000 visits per piece…

    That’s an odd assumption. Consider a reader like me: I log on and read my favorite blog, then typically I read both of the featured articles, and then I scan the home page for other things I find interesting. Sometimes I visit the extensive library too.

    Maybe I’ve got this wrong, but it seems that readers like me can’t be divided up the way you say, “2 million visits divided by 200 pieces.” Rather, at the other extreme, it would be 2 million visits multiplied by several articles and blogs per visit.

    The truth no doubt lies somewhere in between. Add to that the caliber of the readership, and you have a publication that very well could be influencing a lot of thinking people…

    Again, if I’m missing something in your logic, please forgive me.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  103. @Buzz Mohawk

    Addendum: that description of my reading habits is more likely to apply to other typical readers. Upon reflection, I realize how much I log back in and check comments and so forth, plus how much I leave the site open on a tab while I work on other things. Honestly I don’t know how anybody can get a handle on readership of a website unless they scan the IP addresses and behaviors of each address logging in.

    Let’s hope whatever inaccuracies there are apply consistently to all sites equally, resulting in comparable results. That’s probably not true either, though.

  104. Sam Smith says:

    Another trick that Zerohedge (and many other websites) use to artificially pump up their total view count is when you click on a news article link, it actually goes to that news article 4-5 times. So when you click to go back, it just goes to the same news article again for one more view count!

    I don’t know how they do it, it’s irritating for the user. But very profitably for Zerohedge as its financial income is predicated on the total number of views it gets.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  105. Anonymous[331] • Disclaimer says:

    Hey Ron,

    What is TUR worth? L’Shana Tovah!

    Devoted Fan

  106. anastasia says:

    “I allow my writers to write whatever they want, even if much of their output might seem like nonsense to me.”

    “much of this material (comments) may be ignorant or insane, but those willing to mine the low grade ore will discover a considerable sparkling of gems”

    I can’t help but laugh. Even Unz allows himself his opinions, I see.

    By the way, Mr. Unz. The earth is flat.

  107. Kermit says:
    @A123

    The Conservative Treehouse is an excellent counter point in terms of engagement. It has relatively few articles, but there is an expectation of substance and quality across all of them.

    Yes, The Conservative Treehouse excellent. It has been extremely accurate over the years. As is often the case, however, there is one topic that will get a comment deleted quickly. When I mentioned The Yinon Plan as an explanation of what has taken place in recent history in the ME, I quickly found out what that topic was.

    How the mighty have fallen. Naked Capitalism was insightful after the finance issues of 2008. Then it rapidly became useless dross.

    Again – yes. They lost me when I was banned for making the case that computer models were the basis for global warming, and that the models were junk science. I do have thirty years of building models that include using AI based algorithms for commodity market analysis. The facts were too much for them, it seemed.

    Of the two, I currently read The Conservative Treehouse daily – even knowing the one limitation I found. I never go to Naked Capitalism.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  108. TKK says:
    @Liza

    As brilliant as they think they are, some TUR commentators have no concept of what the word ” troll” means in social media. We both know it would mean we went to MS NBC and begin disparaging Joe Biden. Or we went to Fox News and begin praising Joe Biden. That the sole purpose of our visit to the website was to be contrary and provoke outraged responses.

    But these turnips believe it means: I don’t agree with you. I’m mad! You don’t get to speak!

    You can see there is a poster here who now marks everything I post ” troll”. It’s a poster called The Real World. But I also think he posts under the name Realist as well and has conversations back-and-forth with him self, praising himself. Yikes.

    But, it could be more shady than that because both of “them”off egg people into committing armed political crimes with no acknowledgment of the horrible fate of the January 6 political prisoners.

    They scoff- call them a coward. Remember they are posting under anonymous handles. So brave!!!

    It’s one thing about the Internet: we open a window into a world of madness and stupidity. The mute button that Mr. Unz has provided is a great tool.

    And I agree. The Epoch Times has good content. And sure- it may be associated with the fringe group Falen Gong but that doesn’t negate the content.

    You have to be alarmed about people who are defending a country as complex, gigantic and diverse as China. What a strange phenomenon. I mean- who cares, right? It’s like defending Wal Mart or Apple.

    Like Winnie the Pooh is going to help us in anyway. Indeed, he would squash us like bugs and be pleased.

    • Thanks: Liza
  109. @Timothy M.

    I would have just clicked “Agree” but I seldom post.

    I have a lot of regard for what Ron Unz is trying to accomplish but I’m not sure it is panning out. I’m all for free speech – give me anything insightful based on fact and of substance and I’m in. The problem here is so much is based on supposition because so many of the writers here have no access to hard facts so they just become opinion pieces.

    But, I check in daily mostly to see what the propagandists are throwing out to rile up the foil hat brigade. So much hate and twisted thinking and pure obstinate stupidity; people clinging desperately to obvious misinformation to support their prejudices and biases; keyboard warriors who do nothing of consequence but become inflated with their own importance by spewing their often unintelligible vitriol.

    On the numbers – they show only quantity. Any place that regularly hosts a train-wreck like Anglin is going for numbers at the expense of quality. I’d be surprised to find there are as many as 1,000 unique visitors per day to this site – that’s 20 people per state on average. There are far fewer posters than visitors and I see some who reject a lot of it as I do. All you have to do is scan down the comments to see there is a double handful who dominate the conversations. Is there an echo in here?

  110. MPJ says:

    Thanks for continuing to feature the content that you do Ron. Although I first started perusing the website around 2017, I didn’t become a regular reader until 2020 and only started leaving comments in the last year or so.

    Maybe your website features the views it does because of the censorship. If it hadn’t been deranked and censored, would you have been able to resist the $$$ from sponsors and resist self-censoring to earn those $$$?

    Anti-Jewish is not the same thing as anti-Zionist, the latter I feel is an entirely justified position. If I may ask, how do you feel about the over anti-Jewish content yourself?

  111. Jimmy1969 says:

    An excellent informative and useful article.

  112. Alden says:
    @Sam Smith

    Epoch Times is a great source of news not just anti PRC news. It’s a front for the Taiwan government and Taiwan Americans. Who would like to see the PRC stay on the mainland and not devour Taiwan.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Sam Smith
  113. Sam Smith says:
    @Alden

    Who would like to see the PRC stay on the mainland and not devour Taiwan.

    Umm, about 1.4 billion souls.

    The Epoch Times is a great yellow rag for a “conservative” cult.

    • Replies: @Alden
  114. @Thulean Friend

    “I am personally triple-vaxxed”

    Yesterday was the day that those with vaccine injuries eclipsed Covid cases in my inner circle.

    I wish you good luck. Did you ever get Covid?

  115. @meamjojo

    The pro-Ukranian view is the correct and proper view, which is why it deserves overwhelming coverage in the MSM.

    If there is a single US MSM outlet that is pro-Russian, I cannot think what it might be. Perhaps someone here could name one?

    With America apparently having gone all-in with the idea of fighting the Russians to the last Ukrainian, I cannot imagine anyone depending on ad dollars having the courage to throw in their lot with Putin. However, perhaps such people do exist after all and I am simply not familiar with them.

    (Of course, this would take fortitude, something that seems to be in rather short supply in the West at present.)

  116. @mulga mumblebrain

    Throwing the newsletters away, huh? So, Mr. MangledBrain, so you’re not quite the freedom speech stalwart that Mr. Unz is. How is your behavior any different from that of a Communist in the same situation, you didn’t have a lighter on you?

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  117. @TKK

    But I also think he posts under the name Realist as well and has conversations back-and-forth with him self

    Perhaps this is the only way he feels he can get some intelligent conversation around here?

    (Frankly, there are times I wonder if Mr. Unz might consider introducing an “Utter Crap” button.)

    • LOL: Sam Smith
    • Replies: @The Real World
  118. @Sam Smith

    I like this idea, but akin to what Buzz Mohawk discussed, there is a big non-linearity (page “views” vs. reading) when there are lots of comments. People, myself included, who write comments to others, will want to go back a lot over a day or more to check “I wonder what that asshole replied with this time” and things like that.

    I’ve wondered for a while if this site’s software keeps track of clicks that go to (can’t write this out the way I want, because the site will make bogus links) “article-url” vs “article-url/#comments” or, along with the latter, “article-url/#comment-1234567”

    I think that would help in this regard, but it wouldn’t be foolproof on what the user intended, whether to go read the article, whether to go to the comments directly, or whether to go to some guy’s specific comment.

    Specifically going to the comments link means that the viewer either read the article already or is just interested in the comments alone and doesn’t even want to go read the article.

  119. People, myself included, who write comments to others, will want to go back a lot over a day or more to check “I wonder what that asshole replied with this time” and things like that.

    Sorry, I do not follow. Wouldn’t it make more sense to avoid people of whom you do not think highly?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  120. “publications promoting the burgeoning anti-vaxxing movement have also done very well over the last year or two.”

    And they’ve been wildly effective as well. More than 80% of Americans got the first shot, fewer than 2% got the fifth shot that’s been available for nearly a month now. That’s a 97.5% collapse in confidence! Yes, I cans maths ratios and percentiles, which is how I knew “94.1% effective” meant the vaxxes are fake.

    So, Mr Unz, are 98% of Americans anti-vaxxers now? Or it more accurate to say 2% of Americans are vaxx junkies? And is $200 million what Pfizer paid you to flog their fake vaxxine’s?

    Love ya, Ron, your website is the best!

  121. @The Real World

    ZH went from Chattership to Madhattership awhile ago IMO. IOW, I agree with you. Ron is a prince amongst earthlings. I, an emperor, see it with ease.

  122. @Minininjalove

    Greenwald is a US government insider from way back.

  123. @SaneClownPosse

    The Pentagon called him and said time to get serious meester Saker we are meester and meeses snaker. And he say okey dokey I guess you no jokey.

    I made it up. I lied.

  124. The extensive archives and html books provided on this site must up the hours a little though I doubt they are a large draw. What really seperates this site as well as Substack and other blogs is the dedicated community around the writers.

  125. @Luddite in Chief

    I was trying to be somewhat humorous LiC. There are arguments that go back and forth, you know, in the vein of “Honey, I CAN’T go to be right now. Someone is wrong on the internet!” ;-}

    Hopefully, it’s more the case that we both learn something. I comment under iSteve the most. I think the commenters there are the best – lots of people with worldly knowledge and not too much quickness to anger and insult.

    My point remains though, that once you get in a discussion (sometimes an argument) you may go back to check for comments a lot or to reply to various commenters. I’d say the number of views of said pages goes up much higher than linearly with the number of comments.

  126. Congratulations Ron! I was a top commenter on the New York Times under this handle until they disabled my account for comments critical of Obama’s war of aggression against the Syrian people. Same for RT.com until they moved to a silicon valley-moderated comment forum which has made their comments a joke, just as things were getting juicy.

    I take it as a good sign that there are so many new and blatantly CIA-aligned commenters on this piece, at least five of which are commenting today for the first time, and all of which are blowing smoke. Unfortunately for them, it looks like most folks on here are not biting at their silly, patently Imperial narratives.

    I admire Ron Unz and this site, despite Ron’s open lack of concern for humanity’s right to informed consent, bodily autonomy and medical privacy. Ideological purity tests, censorship and intolerance are for the Maoists and Team Obama types, whereas TUR is for everybody.

    Thanks Ron! Keep up the good work!

  127. @Graham Seibert

    There isn’t really much point in hosting pro-Ukraine content on Unz Review, is there? What pro-Ukraine content could possibly exist that is too controversial to be seen on the normie-net? Unz Review stands out specifically because it allows wrongthink to be seen and read. If half the articles on this site were all of a sudden Ukraine shilling in line with the regime’s propaganda, I’d probably read it a lot less, and honestly I’d start getting suspicious about it.

    • Agree: mark green
  128. Liza says:
    @PetrOldSack

    Assange is White — as in Gentile. The beast of burden to carry the promotion of G.Greenwald.

    Could you give further information please? And I too wonder why there is not much mention of Assange here.

    • Replies: @PetrOldSack
  129. Anonymous[353] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Smith

    Any critism of Israel and Jews on ZH gets you noted and, if you keep at it, they will ban you.

    I can’t see how this can be true when criticism of Israel and Jews is all over ZH.

    I am regularly critical of Israel and Jews. I’m so regular I bore myself. I’ve had comments deleted sometimes (and surprised because of its relatively innocuous nature compared to other things I say), but never banned.

    I’m sorry to learn about Paul Singer and Kyle Bass’ interest in ZH.

    The main difference between ZH of old and now is the influx of the pro-Zionist Breitbart crowd. If the trend continues, soon they could be the majority, if they’re not already.

  130. Ron Unz says:
    @Sam Smith

    Another trick that Zerohedge (and many other websites) use to artificially pump up their total view count is when you click on a news article link, it actually goes to that news article 4-5 times. So when you click to go back, it just goes to the same news article again for one more view count!

    That’s interesting. I’ve almost never looked at ZeroHedge, but according to the SimilarWeb chart, their pageviews/visit are about 50% larger than the average, so what you’re saying sounds plausible. Probably their honest totals are one-third lower than listed.

  131. @TKK

    You can see there is a poster here who now marks everything I post ” troll”. It’s a poster called The Real World.

    ROFL! That statement is 100% falsehood. Period. Full stop.

    TKK did post what I thought a trollish post a day or two ago and I marked it as such. Apparently, his little knickers got twisted about it. It’s not that I disagreed; it’s that I thought his information was bogus. That’s a troll.

    Carry on. Go have an adult beverage, TKK, and settle down.

    For the record, I post under NO other handles here. Just this one, the original.
    TKK, you should make that drink a double or triple and get over yourself.

  132. @Luddite in Chief

    Too funny. You should consider that TKK is a highly triggered type and possibly off-his-rocker.

    I have NO other handles on this site and never have. He is a sad one. You may not want to get sucked into that psychosis.

    Btw, the Troll button serves as the Utter Crap button.

  133. @meamjojo

    Me_am_Ju_Ju writes :

    The pro-Ukranian view is the correct and proper view, which is why it deserves overwhelming coverage in the MSM.

    Spoken like a true sayan. The only reason you’re on UR is to post disinfo on behalf of the Judeo-Fascist Ukrainian regime which is a proxy for the Anglo-Zionist empire.

    UR readers have long ago singled you out ‘Ju-Ju’, as a dishonest broker that doesn’t come here in good faith but only seeks to regurgitate the talking points of your Talmudic handlers.

    • Thanks: meamjojo
    • Replies: @No One of Note
  134. @Ron Unz

    From your article :

    Moreover, we have achieved this success despite the severe handicap of being banned by Facebook and having all our pages deranked by Google, with those twin gatekeepers of the global Internet thus doing whatever they can to prevent readers from finding our material.

    Yes, being BANNED and deranked are unpleasant things and, if we lived in a just world, they wouldn’t be tolerated.

    [MORE]

    But there’s an old saying : ‘Charity begins at home’.

    In other words, before the do-gooders of this world start seeking to solve problems in far flung parts of the globe (like bringing ‘democracy’ to the Middle East or sending scores of billions to the Ukraine), they would be better served to attend to pressing issues in their own backyard. ie: like assisting people living in tent cities and sleeping under Freeways in the U.S.

    Which brings me to the fact that certain individuals have been banned by the pseudo economist Michael Hudson from commenting in his UR featured articles – I being one of them (about 6 months ago).

    Meanwhile, as of today, a fellow thin-skinned Trotskyist/Marxist/Maoist that contributes to the Unz Review, none other than Larry Romanoff, has banned me from commenting in his articles.

    I’m not writing this to get reinstated to their commentary – I no longer wish to read their articles or have anything to do with these petulant children who start sulking at the slightest push-back.

    I just say this so as to make the UR readers aware that CENSORSHIP is going on right here in the UR.
    Now don’t get me wrong, if someone is clearly heckling an author, not posting constructive criticism of said author’s article or just yelling expletives and being disruptive, then some form of censorship should be applied.

    But Mr Unz, you will see that I have done none of the above in relation to my commentary in recent days at the Romanoff threads.

    I suggest readers should boycott all articles from Romanoff from now on – both reading them and contributing to the commentary.

    Not because you side with me or wish to show solidarity on this matter but because if you tolerate it, you are no better than You Tube, Twitter, Facebook an any other Zio controlled entity that muzzles free speech.

    Your acceptance of Larry Romanoff’s and Michael Hudson’s banning is a TACIT ENDORSEMENT of censorship.
    As long as you’e a compliant yes-man and meekly refrain from posting critiques of these author’s output then all is fine – for now anyway.

    But your turn will come and you too will be censored after said tyrants have become emboldened from banning people for expressing the slightest dissent and receiving no blow back in return.

    If you’re genuinely for Free Speech, it means tolerating those remarks you disagree with, not just those you do agree with.

    BOYCOTT ALL LARRY ROMANOFF ARTICLES NOW.

  135. @Truth Vigilante

    You ever heard that joke about guys in prison yelling out numbers at night to reference jokes they’ve heard so many times everyone knows them just by the number? One con yells out “73!” and the cell block breaks out in sporadic laughter. Another con yells out “22!” and the cons roar with laughter. A new prisoner decides to join in and yells out “55!” and there’s dead silence. His cell mate just shrugs and says, “Some people just can’t tell a joke.”

    You should have a similar system for your little rants, you repeat the same stuff so many times it’s boilerplate. Trust me, the same people will react the same way whether you spell it all out or just assign it a number and it would save us all time.

    • LOL: meamjojo
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  136. Amazing discussion. I agree it would be great to see views per article. I guess it’s about 5k to 10k per article? Why was the website delisted by Google? Was it because of Anglin or because of contrarian content in general?

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  137. @No One of Note

    You should have a similar system for your little rants, you repeat the same stuff so many times it’s boilerplate.

    Thanks for the suggestion – and it’s appreciated that you value my commentary so much that you follow everything I post and thus have heard it many times over.

    [MORE]

    But a lot of people who tune into UR are not groupies of mine like you, following me from thread to thread. They may not have heard these things at all.

    And let’s face it, what I’m saying is extremely important, seeing as Marxists and Maoists like Larry Romanoff, Michael Hudson and the rest of the Zio affiliated left wing media are trying to deflect the blame for all of society’s ills away from the actual root cause.
    ie: Central Planning, Socialism and BIG GOVERNMENT.

    Instead they’re trying to pin it all on Capitalism.

    So, when the crisis hits, AND IT’S ALREADY PLAYING OUT RIGHT NOW (but will get much, MUCH worse in the coming years), if the rabid left wingers are successful in convincing the ignorant masses that it was all the fault of Capitalism, they will demand that we DOUBLE DOWN with more Central Planning, Socialism and BIG GOVERNMENT.

    That’s what Larry Romanoff and his Zio handlers want.

    So ‘No one Notable’, keep the numbering system to yourself and your ex-felon pals.

    I’ll be spelling it out so that interested readers can grasp the nuances.

  138. Ron Unz says:
    @Dreamweaver

    Why was the website delisted by Google? Was it because of Anglin or because of contrarian content in general?

    No, and here’s part of a recent comment of mine explaining what happened:

    Consider this website. For more than six years, we published ultra-ultra-controversial articles on WWII, the Holocaust, racial issues, Israel/Zionism, the JFK Assassination, the USS Liberty, the 9/11 attacks, and every other extremely controversial matter. I’d say that taken as a whole, my American Pravda series might be about the most controversial collection of material existing anywhere on the Internet. And during all those years we never once had any problems with Facebook or Google.

    https://www.unz.com/page/american-pravda-series/

    The ADL is probably the most widely feared organization in America, and plays a central role in Internet censorship. Here’s a column I wrote about them in October 2018, and for the 18 months that followed we had absolutely no problems:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-the-adl-in-american-society/

    But then in April 2020 I published my article suggesting that the Covid outbreak was probably due to an American biowarfare attack against China (and Iran), and within days our entire website was banned by Facebook and all our pages totally deranked by Google. That seems an extremely suspicious coincidence to me.

    https://www.unz.com/announcement/record-breaking-traffic-despite-our-purge-from-google-and-facebook/

    For ten years some of my own articles had been ranked #1 or #2 out of 150 million results returned by Google searches, and suddenly they all totally disappeared. I’ve been bitterly complaining about that for more than two years.

    https://www.unz.com/runz/covid-and-the-political-bankruptcy-of-the-alternative-media/#comment-5555408

    • Replies: @Dreamweaver
    , @24th Alabama
  139. For ten years some of my own articles had been ranked #1 or #2 out of 150 million results returned by Google searches, and suddenly they all totally disappeared.

    You know the old saying, “You take the most flak when you are over the target.”

    In this case, the flak was extreme censorship. It’s a bitter pill but, also vindication in a way.

  140. @Ron Unz

    Amazing story. So then I guess unz review was deemed COVID misinformation. Big Tech was very strict when it came to anything COVID. It’s ironic they delisted unz review when unz review mostly backed the official COVID story of a deadly virus and amazing vaccines. But Big Tech totally didn’t like the lab leak theory. Maybe unz review will return to search results once the COVID madness is over.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  141. @Thulean Friend

    … Claire Lehman’s hardline opposition to anti-vaxxers and her own pro-lockdown views ruined what was once a flourishing magazine. Apparently, she banned opposing viewpoints and enforced her own views on the whole publication

    Is that really a surprise to you… ? Really… ??

    It shouldn’t be.

    Claire ((( Lehman(n) )))

  142. Congratulations and Thanks for this site, Mr Unz.

    Like some others here I also am ex Zion Hedge.
    After being banned for posting anti Israel, just questions on walls, Gaza, Rafah camp really, the penny dropped.
    I recently revisited.
    It’s not a nice place in my humble opinion.
    Like a Israel itself..

  143. Unzreview got more pageviews than Nation of Islam did? What a lie. It is like saying that Satanic Verses has more readers than Quran does.

    • Replies: @Dreamweaver
    , @Dave Bowman
  144. @Graham Seibert

    but the people who post here are relentlessly pro-Russian

    You must be living on another planet, friend. After another day (week, month, year) listening in passing to other people’s tedious, repetitive, closed-minded, brainwashed, pro-Ukraine, anti-Russian media-lockstep bullshit, I come home to the Unz Review for a very welcome refreshment and strengthening of my sanity. TUR is the only outlet which dares to publish the full nuanced historical TRUTH of the geo-political issues which caused the war in the first place, courtesy of a handful of deeply-honourable writers who refuse in principle to forget, ignore or lie about said truth.

    But in any case, what exactly is wrong with being “relentlessly pro-Russian” ? For your information, I’m not either, friend, as this accursed war, soaked in the blood of 50,000 useless untrained teenage Russian “soldiers” who got slaughtered on the front-line in the first two months, has already gone far beyond any normal person’s idea of a pleasant spectator-sport, so you’re not in fact the Head-Boy this week after all. It is only this outlet above all others which is making the stand against the all-powerful Jew-controlled, worldwide, brain-dead anti-Russian pigshit which has got us all where we are today. You’ll excuse me if I take the view that right now that seems a whole lot more important than your “contributions with another point of view”. Really ? You mean, another (Jewish) point of view – supporting Ukraine just like the rest of the useless, irresponsible, lying Jew-controlled mainstream mass-media ?

    Hmmm… “relentlessly pro-Russian”. I’d like to ask – Do you consider the mainstream mass-media (whose devotees, writers, journalists, publishers, activists and hard-line enforcers outnumber the readership of this “webzine” as Ron calls it by a factor of millions-to-one), with their pre-meditated cover-ups of everything from the pro-Israel compliance of the Jew rat Zelenskiyy to the well-attested atrocities of the murderous neo-Nazi Ukraine “Azov Battalion”, to be “relentlessly pro-Ukraine” ?

    Enquiring minds need to know.

    Hmmm… “Seibert”. Are you serious, Seibert ? Are you Jewish ? (as Groucho Marx said, “Answer the second question first”).

  145. Ron Unz says:
    @Dreamweaver

    Amazing story. So then I guess unz review was deemed COVID misinformation. Big Tech was very strict when it came to anything COVID.

    No, you’re being very naive. Remember, we’re talking about April 2020, just a few weeks after the serious Covid outbreaks began in America and long before anyone was concerned about “Covid misinformation.” And the whole notion that there was a Covid “lab leak” is utterly ridiculous, as I’ve explained at length.

    If you read my articles, you’ll soon discover the crucial information that must have triggered the sudden purge by the world’s two leading Internet gatekeepers:

    https://www.unz.com/page/covid-biowarfare-articles/

    Or if you prefer, watch one of two of my podcast video interviews from earlier this year. The first is approaching nearly a half-million times, while the second is over 330K views:



    Video Link



    Video Link

    • Replies: @Dreamweaver
    , @Wizard of Oz
  146. starthorn says:
    @Charles

    I am admittedly one who reads articles quickly then enjoys the schooling in the comments. Need to look through more to find and read some of these books.

  147. @Drive-by poster

    Yes, that is completely so. When you read commenter “Bill’s” comment, you experienced an advanced form of White human communication known as “sarcasm”.

    The signal has been received. The mothership will be arriving to collect you shortly.

  148. @meamjojo

    The pro-Ukranian view is the correct and proper view, which is why it deserves overwhelming coverage in the MSM

    You mean, Whilst others don’t deserve it ?

    Very nice to have it clear from you at last that you DON’T actually believe in free speech for different / opposing points of view.

    My historic understanding was that most Bolshevik Jew filth didn’t either.

    • Replies: @meamjojo
  149. @Achmed E. Newman

    It was fun! Hitting back at your friends in the CIA, in my own inimitable manner. And preventing people having their brains rotted by lies, a malady to which you succumbed long ago.

  150. @Luddite in Chief

    ‘Overwhelming coverage’?? In fact 100% groupthink with NO deviation tolerated. Totalitarian mind control that Big Brother would envy. The ‘Free World’. So unlike climate science where lying, raving, denialist lunatics are allowed to spew their omnicidal lies, and in the depths of moral sewers like the Murdoch cancer, dominate coverage. The West could not, possibly, be more corrupt than it is.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  151. @Kermit

    Computer models are NOT the whole of climate science. You have observations too, from reality, and from the past as with ice cores, tree rings, mud and coral cores etc. Moreover climate scientists say, ‘All models are wrong but some are useful’. To say that climate science rests entirely on models (always improving)is imbecility or mendacity or both, but that is denialism after all.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    , @dimples
  152. Alden says:
    @Sam Smith

    Well, I like it. One clever thing Epoch Times does. Many kiosks offering the free papers around all these American universities packed with PRC students and researchers. Presumably TET hopes the students and researchers will read the paper and go home with a different viewpoint than the standard government line.

    Someone mentioned the suspicious internet articles about the disappearance of Xi. It was pretty obvious and posted on so many conservative sites. But it appears Xi is okay. I myself don’t gave any opinions about China, good or bad. Epoch Times has articles about happenings in America too.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  153. meamjojo says:
    @Dave Bowman

    “You mean, Whilst others don’t deserve it ?

    Very nice to have it clear from you at last that you DON’T actually believe in free speech for different / opposing points of view.”

    Some POV’s are so contrary to common sense that they don’t deserve to be aired or shared with anyone else. UNZ is littered with such POV’s.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  154. @Ron Unz

    Oh I remember there were already massive purges on social media by April 2020. I remember zerohedge was purged on twitter in February or March for suggesting a lab leak. Many who suggested a lab leak or a bioattack were purged at the time. This is probably what happened to unz review. It also happened to George Webb. I don’t know if it was smart to suggest a bioattack when you had no proof at all.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  155. meamjojo says:
    @Luddite in Chief

    You have to be an idiot to be Pro-Russian after all they have done since 2/24. Anyone who still supports Russia is also an idiot or retarded.

    • Replies: @Luddite in Chief
  156. @Kim Jong Il

    It looks like nation of islam has fewer pageviews, but more readers than unz review.

  157. @mulga mumblebrain

    Your prosperous Austraian grandchildren may nonetheless accuse you of misplacing your emphasis. If we had started subsidising education of women in Africa 40 years ago we might have made more difference to what future generations can enjoy in the way of biodiversity and Europe not neing swamped by incompatibles.

  158. @mulga mumblebrain

    Supposing the Murdoch press is denialist and wrong what harm does it do to Australia? Nothing Australia does or says will make the slightest difference to the amount of climate damage we will suffer though we can, on purely private capitalistic reasoning hope to be able to profit as an energy hub.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  159. @Ron Unz

    You must have entertained the possibility that my favoured explanation of why UR was damaged by Google and Facebook was correct, namely that your stalkers like the ADL saw the opportunity to have you cancelled without involving Israel or Zionism and struck. The fact that you haven’t addressed it, even with one of your “confused”/”naive”/”foolish”/”gullible” attacks strongly suggests to me that you know very well it could be true so I hope you won’t go too far out on a risky limb just to help keep alive the small chance that your biowardare theory proves correct.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  160. @Kim Jong Il

    Yes, of course. Because you’re right, without evidence – and the universally-accepted, validated and reported monitoring software figures are wrong. How stupid of me not to realise.

    You don’t comment here much. If this is to be indicative of your future contributions, please don’t bother.

    • Replies: @Kim Jong Il
  161. Ron Unz says:
    @Dreamweaver

    Oh I remember there were already massive purges on social media by April 2020. I remember zerohedge was purged on twitter in February or March for suggesting a lab leak. Many who suggested a lab leak or a bioattack were purged at the time. This is probably what happened to unz review.

    I don’t think your analysis is correct. The Twitter account of ZeroHedge was indeed suspended in February, but the reason given was that they’d distributed the personal information of the Chinese researcher whom they suggested had been responsible for releasing the Covid virus:

    Zero Hedge on Friday wrote that Twitter had notified the site that it had violated the social media platform’s “rules against abuse and harassment.” That followed a report by BuzzFeed that Zero Hedge had shared the identity and personal information — including the email and phone number — of a Chinese researcher it claimed might know about the source of the virus.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-bans-zero-hedge-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory/

    Except for Twitter, I think Social Media purges were pretty rare back then, and the ZH violation anyway seems pretty egregious.

    And I have only the vaguest impression of George Webb, whom I think is some sort of pro-Trump Internet conspiracy-activist, so perhaps you can provide some background on his case.

    • Replies: @Dreamweaver
  162. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    You must have entertained the possibility that my favoured explanation of why UR was damaged by Google and Facebook was correct, namely that your stalkers like the ADL saw the opportunity to have you cancelled without involving Israel or Zionism and struck.

    Sure, I don’t doubt that numerous organizations, including the ADL had been gunning for the website for years. But all their efforts had apparently been completely unsuccessful until I pointed out the very strong evidence that the Covid outbreak had been an American biowarfare attack.

    The fact that you haven’t addressed it, even with one of your “confused”/”naive”/”foolish”/”gullible” attacks strongly suggests to me that you know very well it could be true so I hope you won’t go too far out on a risky limb just to help keep alive the small chance that your biowardare theory proves correct.

    You’re such an extremely stupid person that I’m surprised you haven’t already begun promoting the theory that the Russians destroyed their own Nord Stream pipelines. It’s about as plausible as the idea that a random lab-leak of the sort of virus American researchers had spent years developing happened to hit China and Iran, the two countries America was most hostile towards.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @H. L. M
  163. @Alden

    Alden, for you and SS, just because the Chinese are in general a smart and hard-working people, individually, that’s not any kind of guarantee that the Middle Kingdom cannot experience some severe stupidity.

    An example of late is their Covid~Zero stupidity. I mean, it’s as if everyone’s forgotten how viruses work! Even if they haven’t, with the smartphone control, via “health index” and most financial transactions being via those devices, there’s not a damn thing a sane person can do about it over there, besides staying stocked up on rice.

    We think we had it bad during the Kung Flu PanicFest. China is now at a level of Stupidity 2 orders-of-magnitude higher. I won’t link to all dozen or so posts on Peak Stupidity, but one can go to the China topic key and see posts on this starting mid-March of this year.

    Here are 2, the first because the title states my point, and the other because it’s the last one, from personal sources. There’ll be more.

    Stupidity does not stop at the California coastline
    Thrown under the bus on the road to Covid~Zero

    .

    PS: We’ve got MangledBrain on here admitting he censors newspapers by the rack-full, but if you really want to see pro-CCP propaganda, learn about the “Confucius Centers”, still at a lot of American universities.

  164. @meamjojo

    There’s an ignore button, you Totalitalitarian dumbass.

  165. @Ron Unz

    It’s about as plausible as the idea that a random lab-leak of the sort of virus American researchers had spent years developing happened to hit China and Iran, the two countries America was most hostile towards.

    OK, with all due respect, Mr. Unz, you’ve got your whole being committed to your theory, but you cannot see or refute the simplest, most common-sensical explanation.

    What do you mean, “random”? It’s the other way around. With these very small viruses, but bacteria also, we’ve got to specifically take measure, or they WILL be “randomly” about everywhere. That’s what washing hands and not coughing in people’s faces is all about.

    The dang labs were there in Wuhan, working in cooperation with the Fauci/US Feral Gov supported labs at UNC in Chapel Hill, NC. The Nick Wade article that “supports your theory” specifically went into the low safety standards (level 2 vs. the appropriate level 4) that were being held to in Wuhan, and for the usual reasons. The work was outsourced, because when you don’t have to be so ridiculously, stringently, careful, you get a lot more done and more quickly.

    You put that together the usual slack Chinese Q/A, and what would think think could very likely happen?

    Yes, I agree with you wrt the Nord Stream pipeline.

  166. John Bruh says:

    Who is financing zero hedge and their financial gore porn?

  167. @Ron Unz

    oh zerohedge was purged for proposing a lab leak, no doubt. They just needed a pretext to purge them. George Webb proposed a Fort Detrick conspiracy theory and got purged. So I guess unz review simply waded into this conspiracy swamp and got purged like so many others at the time. There were even some actual scientific papers at the time that proposed some lab leak and that got purged. It was very common. I don’t know if you still promote this bioattack theory, but I think it looks even more silly today than it was back then. I mean obviously the coronavirus is more like a flu and not like a bioweapon.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  168. @Dave Bowman

    Future contributions???? I never contribute anything to any website and I am afraid that I will not because I am no longer me.

  169. H. L. M says:
    @Ron Unz

    I give you credit where it’s due: Wizard is stupid.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  170. @Liza

    Jews stand on the shoulders of other Dwarfs (more Jews). They promote and keep their Tribe in the news, no-one gets credit outside the tribe. Anything is subverted and conflated into credit for them only. Assange is just an excuse of no importance to yet promote a dead-beat as Greenwald.

    • Thanks: Liza
  171. @Ron Unz

    Was it only censorship by Big Tech or did the FBI pay them a visit as described by Zuckerberg in the Rogan interview?

    No doubt you struck a a raw nerve with your well-informed speculation about COVID-19 origins,which would be a war crime by the U.S. if true,in contrast to the Hunter Biden laptop story which merely affected (or changed) the results of a presidential election.

    This is a very high stakes game and no one should underestimate the determination of the Government to suppress dissent.

  172. dimples says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    I agree that observations are very important. Like the fact that it’s been raining heavily since the 2019 Massive Bushfire Season From Hell That Was Obviously Only Caused By Climate Change. It’s a bit like all the Sudden Adult Death Syndrome we have been having lately. You might think it’s the Vaccine but we know it’s Not The Vaccine! 280 million people in Uttar Pradesh do not have Covid but here in Australia there is a Covid Crisis. But we know it’s Not Ivermectin!

    So you see observations are important until they are not.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  173. @meamjojo

    You have to be an idiot to be Pro-Russian after all they have done since 2/24. Anyone who still supports Russia is also an idiot or retarded.

    Here is a short (just over five minutes) clip that shows how America’s current values compare with those of the rest of the world. Watch the first two military recruitment advertisements from China and Russia, then contrast them with the last one. When you watch the last clip, bear in mind that this is America’s idea of what will attract the most serious and capable people to its army.

    Which of the three ads for military recruitment was the most idiotic and retarded? The answer may surprise you.

  174. @H. L. M

    Oh dear, I’ve just had a look at you somewhat threadbare and small commenting record. I’m afraid Ron won’t be pleased or flatered by your comment. As Ron himself is indeed pretty smart in an increasingly eccentric way he knows perfectly well that I am not stupid and has to engage in bare faced misrepresentations about things I have, provably, not said to keep up the game. He knows very well that I question others’ cases 10 times as often as I support one of my own. He wouldn’t really be surprised to learn the fact that, rather than make a case for Russian damage yo their own Nordstream piprlines, I have just written to someone who did to point out that it is very important to consider who would be damaged most by being found to have caused the explosions. You might like to warm up on that. And when you have you should stretch your intellect to a breaking point which might make you less willing to shoot your mouth off grandiloquently about stupidity by seeing what sort of a fist you can make from my comment record, fairly read, that I am stupid.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz
  175. @Luddite in Chief

    I don’t blame you for wanting to provoke with that video clip. But please don’t demean your intellect by pretending that it proves ANYTHING AT ALL apart from the fact that some video compilers share some of your prejudices (and, I don’t doubt,millions of Americans who also share them].

  176. @Luddite in Chief

    Thanks. You weren’t kidding, LiC! That US Army ad was so embarrassing, but, at the same time, I couldn’t look away. No way would the Babylon Bee have made something this idiotic and retarded. It’s a cartoon, as this country is becoming.

  177. Ron Unz says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    he knows perfectly well that I am not stupid

    You have a remarkably inflated understanding of how you appear in the opinion of others.

    I’m really quite surprised that you didn’t immediately endorse the theory that the Russians gleefully destroyed their own energy pipelines.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  178. @No One of Note

    I’m all for free speech – give me anything insightful based on fact and of substance and I’m in.

    LOL, ok, guy. The putrid ADL and the fetid SPLC and all the other Bolshevik vermin are in perfect agreement with you.

    • Replies: @No One of Note
  179. @Dreamweaver

    …still promote this bioattack theory, but I think it looks even more silly today than it was back then. I mean obviously the coronavirus is more like a flu and not like a bioweapon.

    Of course, it was a bio-attack. The “lab leak” idea was laughable by about March of 2020, if not before.

    The entire Covid operation had been planned and organized for a very long time – decades – and is part of The Great Reset that is being deployed by globalists. I think it highly probable that the Russia / Ukraine skirmish is part of it as well.

    It’s amazing to me that people only consider these things in small fragmented pieces instead of stepping back to discern if there is a much larger, coordinated, multi-national plan evolving. There IS and globalists have been talking about the NWO for a long time. They weren’t blowing smoke; they were announcing their plans.

    The big countries want Central Bank Digital Currencies and it will take some massive disruption and pain to wear people down to accept them. Everyone should consider that all the big countries are working together on some aspects of what is currently occurring so they can all achieve the population control mechanisms they want enacted.

  180. @Bloodthirsty Tribal Deity

    You crack me up. You remind me of the political tight-ass in Forest Gump who slapped Jenny around at the Black Panther “party” before Gump adjusted his attitude.

    You parade your little catch-phrases like grandmothers show off charm bracelets with the names of all their kids and grand-kids and pets. OK, good: you established your affiliation and nothing more. There is no logic or pith to what you wrote, just a little bitty pout-pout. As my ex-wife, a Georgia peach, used to say – you need relaxin’.

  181. @Ron Unz

    How does it feel to have attracted 90% obsessives, deranged and dimwits to your site? Why should one care what they think? And what else do you have to go by? You know very little of the company I keep and have kept in person and by correspondence. Who accepts your dinner invitation or invites you to lunch? Who says they value your opinion and appears to mean it?

    Of course you do have an odd relationship to the English language and also what people have actually said. On the latter point you again completely ignore, for perhaps the fifteenth time, what I have actually said on a subject and how I have approached it, and preferred to misrepresent me, as anyone can check thanks to your software.

    On your language use I have to wonder what you mean by stupid (apart from continuing to spend time on a website run by someone commonly regarded as a crank). Unable to see and define problems? Unable to discern fallacies and falsehoods? Unable to be precisely logical? Unable to discern irony or satire and when one’s leg is being pulled? Have a go at it.

    BTW is there anything stpider by whatever criterion you use than having held out Scott Ritter and Larry C. Johnson as your preferred authorities on Putin’s malignant folly? Maybe publishing “Larry Romanof”, Pepe Escobar and the rest of your bizarre team of shills when you want people to believe the theory you push on UR that you believe could found a most profound cataclysm in American government???

  182. Spoken by an obsessive, deranged dimwit, this has a degree of transient cogency. We can well surmise what type of reactionary drongos seek out your company-superannuated IPA drones, various Liberal Party flacks, retired ‘judges’ of the Dyson Heydon type, friends of Alan Jones and David Flint, various John Howard groupies etc.
    The creme de la creme of Austfailia’s peerless, fifth-rate, ‘elites’. A type rather stricken with terror these days, as the God-ordained Western, White, Anglosphere Empire reaches its end-stage. The thought of ‘Chinks’ no longer taking orders from Herrenvolk like the mighty Wizz, has this type quite riven with angst and rage.

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  183. @dimples

    I agree with you re. CoViD19 and ivermectin etc, because the facts support your position. In regard to anthropogenic climate destabilisation, they do not.
    Heat, prolonged drought, strong winds etc, leading to increased fire intensity, are caused by anthropogenic climate destabilisation. As are increased deluges and flooding, because a one degree Celsius increase in average temperatures leads to a 7-8% increase in atmospheric water vapour, itself a greenhouse gas as well, hence a positive feed-back. All explained by science, but yours is a religious position that climate destabilisation CANNOT be happening because that contradicts your Rightwing religion. I know that you will never, because you can never, change.

  184. @Wizard of Oz

    A favourite hard Right canard, that we need not do anything because we are ‘small’. Leaving aside the trade-mark arrogance and malignant self-interest, it is irrelevant for two reasons. First we are among the highest emitters per capita, and second, we export huge amounts of fossil fuels, just loving the blood money they bring. Let all the little ‘nig-nogs’ and their ‘picaninnies’ pay to save humanity, while we White Bosses (but only the top dogs) make out like bandits. You are such an archetypal Liberal shit Wizz that it almost defies parody.

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  185. @Irish Savant

    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

  186. @mulga mumblebrain

    Nothing obsessive, deranged, or dim-witted about you. Whew, talk about proving the Wizard’s point in the first line and hammering it home.

    As Wizard of Oz so aptly pointed out, this place is a who’s who of the botched and bungled. It’s like one of those insect traps the DNR hangs in trees and you bugs just can’t resist climbing in and buzzing your heads off – which is a good thing because it makes you all so easy to track. If Unz hadn’t created this place, I’m sure some alphabet agency would have come up with something similar just to herd you clowns into one ring.

    Maybe I should start a conspiracy theory that Unz is actually working for the US government and you are all being targeted, electronic dossiers of your every keystroke being collated and analyzed in some super-cooled governmental basement. Not far beneath the paranoia, people really love the idea that someone is watching them because it makes them feel important.

    I come here for the laughs but I have to admit the joke is wearing thin. I use the singular because even though the joke starts out differently with each teller, the punchline is the same and it is a dismal, even painful one at that.

    I scan down through the comments and think if there was an AI overseer, it would definitely nuke the participants here on the basis of the malignant toxicity. This is Babel on acid with people spinning like dervishes on psychotic breaks and no one is able to understand a word another says.

    • Thanks: Wizard of Oz
  187. @mulga mumblebrain

    First we are among the highest emitters per capita…

    “We” meaning the Chinese folks? How ARE you Chinese folks doing regarding holding in your emissions, MumbledBrain? Why doesn’t the Chinese government participate in any of the treaties?

    Oops, I forgot, you’re Chinese, but you got out of China to Australia, the people of which you bitch about because they treat you like a foreigner, which, guess what, you are!

  188. @Achmed E. Newman

    Interesting. He could be a mad white hippie with an IQ that seemed high till he went to university who lives in the bush with a young Chinese lover that he let’s loose on his UR replies sometimes to keep up the wolf warrior tone.

  189. @Wizard of Oz

    Hah!

    Nah, but I figured this out, Wiz, and he doesn’t deny it.

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  190. sick ari says:
    @No One of Note

    Insightful post.

    Thanks for the entertainment, Aaron. 🙂

  191. @Achmed E. Newman

    Dear me-I’d love to be Chinese, or Russian, but I’m not. The Chinese per capita emissions of CO2 and equivalents were c. 9 tons in 2018, and 24 in Austfailia. Moreover many Chinese emissions are caused by producing goods consumed in richer countries, therefore really belong to those richer States. China signed the Paris Agreement in September 2016, and it came into force in November of that year, you ignorant racist buffoon.

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  192. @Wizard of Oz

    Oh, look-a budding bromance! ‘Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediment..’ as whatsisname wrote.

  193. @No One of Note

    At least the nomme de folie is apt. It’s about time that Wizz got a ‘groom of the stool’ to clean up after him.

  194. @Achmed E. Newman

    My yclosest experience of bearers of East Asian genomes is several young half East Asians who thrive as attractive,clever, sporting young people who would shrug off racism as lower class even if it were leveled at them.But a young mathematics graduate about to start a higher degree told me I think that her Chinese appearance and voice had aroused bad behaviour (not that she ouldn’t cope or wanted to go back to China). My instinct,building on the truth of your information, tells me that MM is half Chinese, with a useful but not outstanding IQ (which he should be using better in the job market) but, sadly not physically attractive or impressive. Maybe a little bit like the fat Chinese guy who was treated so rudely and crudely by the egregious Eric Abetz during a Senate (or Joint) Committee meeting. Pretty harmless but a waste since he seems young enough to be doing something better than ranting splenetically on UR.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  195. @mulga mumblebrain

    I know you’re Chinese. You’ve already wrote multiple comments to this effect. Now, it’s not like I’m personally worried about extra plant food in the atmosphere, but here’s what the NY Post said last year*:

    Chinese President Xi Jinping vowed in the 2016 Paris accords to bring his country’s climate-warming greenhouse-gas emissions to a peak before 2030 and make China “carbon-neutral” by 2060, but reality tells the opposite story.

    A new study shows that the People’s Republic generated over half of the world’s coal-fired power in 2020, up nine points (to 53 percent) from 2015 — the year before Xi made his pledge.

    And China actually opened more coal plants in 2020 than it had in the prior three years combined — three times as many new coal plants as the entire rest of the world.

    Not coincidentally, China was the only G20 nation whose greenhouse-gas emissions grew last year. When it comes to greenhouse-gas emissions, coal is the “dirtiest” fossil fuel.

    It can get smoggy when individual families burn coal for heat and cooking, but for Chinese industry, burn away. At least they’re a serious country. (There are building out a lot of nukes too.). However, don’t lie your ass off about these “emissions” of “pollution”. (Both bogus terms for Carbon Dioxide written to scare the masses in the West)

    .

    * The article: China’s actions show its climate pledges are meaningless. Oh, crap, now you’ve got to sign up and start commenting on the NY Post to keep spreading disinformation. The work never ends!

  196. @Achmed E. Newman

    Achmed, seeing as you’re talking about the Anthropogenic Climate Hoax and exposing Mulga Mumblebrain’s intellectual bankruptcy and rabid-left-wing-driven dishonesty on this topic, comes some very sad news.

    [MORE]

    About 2 weeks ago, the Emeritus Professor Tim Ball, amongst the greatest genuine Climate Change scientists that ever lived, and certainly the most damaging to their fraudulent theory, passed away.

    As most people know, the great James Corbett (of The Corbett Report), is extremely well researched and there is not a single thing of substance that he’s gotten wrong in all the years he’s been around, be that on 9/11, the series of videos he made exposing ‘Who is Bill Gates’ or all manner of other topics.

    There’s a reason for that – he meticulously researches the issues and always dots the i’s and crosses the t’s.
    And needless to say, Corbett has been outstanding in exposing the lies and fabrications of those peddling the Global Warming nonsense.

    During that process he got to know Professor Tim Ball very well and befriended him.

    I urge all UR readers to take the time to listen to this audio podcast from the Corbett Report honouring this Colossus of Climate Truth Tim Ball titled ‘Episode 427 – Remembering Tim Ball’ :

    https://www.corbettreport.com/timball/

    Contrary to the lies being peddled by Mulga, Tim Ball took the Climate Change fiction peddlers to court and gave them an almighty shellacking – after all, he had the truth on his side.

    In particular, Tim Ball won a ruling against that fraud Michael Mann (he of the bogus ‘Hockey Stick’ infamy that Al Gore used in his dishonest film), and Mann thus owed Ball a considerable sum in compensation/court costs.

    However, craven POS that Mann is, not a cent has been payed out and Mann moved to a different country where said payment cannot be legally enforced on him.

    In the interim, Tim Ball had to fund his lawyers largely on his own (well into the six figure territory), and thus his widow is hard pressed to pay for funeral expenses and such.

    I urge all UR reader to open the link below and pledge whatever they can to the Dr. Tim Ball Memorial :

    https://gogetfunding.com/dr-tim-ball-memorial/

    We may never see the likes of Tim Ball again. He will be sadly missed by all those that seek truth and integrity in the scientific community – a rare commodity these days, I’m sure you’ll all agree.

    Meanwhile, the link below is to a comment I posted two weeks ago in the Unz Review (the DAY BEFORE Tim ball died), containing one of his masterclass orations :

    https://www.unz.com/aanglin/weather-hoax-industrial-complex-the-world-is-literally-on-fire/#comment-5561680

    Please take the time to listen to this video or others he’s delivered (more likely to find them on BitChute or Rumble since the Zio controllers of You Tube are not too fond of telling us the truth about the Climate Fraud – seeing as they’ve orchestrated it and seek to profit from it).

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  197. Als0 UR readers, in relation to my last comment, when you access the link featuring Tim Ball’s video in the Andrew Anglin thread, be sure to read the two comments posted by the Mumbled Brains immediately below it, to see what a despicable low-life Mumbler really is.

    That Mulga the Mumbler should be saying these things about Tim Ball, who was a decent man, a knowledgeable man (a world leader in his field), but most of all, a man who EXUDED SINCERITY FROM EVERY PORE OF HIS BODY and was not beholden to anyone (like the phony scientists on the Zio payroll that peddle the Climate Alarmism), is beyond disgraceful.

    Mulga, you’re not fit to polish Tim Ball’s boots. You should hang your head in shame.

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  198. I double-checked unique visitor numbers of Unz Review with several professional tools and it’s about 10k or less per day. So I would guess Unz Review is reaching about 30k to 50k in total. Not the smallest website out there, but still a fringe magazine. And very few shares on social media channels.

  199. @Truth Vigilante

    Tim Ball is PLAINLY a fraud, spreading malicious disinformation in regard to the GRAVEST danger that humanity has ever faced. So, in my opinion, he exudes something far more toxic than sincerity, something one can also excuse you of doing. And there are thousands of HONEST scientists for every Tim Ball, who reject his omnicidal garbage, many entirely. What makes you fanatics so immune to facts, decency and reason? As weather and climate disasters mount, you grow ever more deranged. Are you frightened?

  200. @Truth Vigilante

    VERY good riddance. You truly signal your malicious idiocy by decrying ‘Michael Mann’s ‘hockey-stick’. Not only is it true, and has been verified numerous times, it is just one of many ‘hockey-stick’ representations (NOT Mann’s alone!)of the exponential progress of anthropogenic climate destabilisation. And exponential changes in other Earth-system parameters.
    You are plainly a stupid, but arrogant, far Right fanatic-the perfect Dunning-Krugerite. You have your ONE renegade scientist, the unlamented Ball, and because his idiocies reinforce your ideological zealotry, you ignore the thousands of climate scientists who refute Ball and his ilk. And, of course, you necessarily reject ALL the evidence of rapid climate destabilisation from reality. You are, in short, a very dangerous shit.

    • Troll: Achmed E. Newman
  201. @Achmed E. Newman

    As I said, you vicious racist fanatic, China emits greenhouse gases in making goods consumed in the West. So those emissions belong to Western parasites like YOU.
    In fact China is the leading power in wind, solar and hydro-electric energy. It also constructs the most efficient coal and gas fired stations, for now. It is leading in research into fission, fusion and thorium energy production. It is building very high voltage power-lines across the country, to efficiently bring energy from wind and solar in the west, to the markets in the east.
    Moreover it is the force that made wind and solar the cheapest form of energy, by mobilising its giant productive capacities. And it will fulfill its goals, whereupon you and other racist scum will be silent, hopefully forever.

  202. Shocking that NR ranks that high. Thanks for making this website possible Ron. It’s a bastion of free speech in an unfree world.

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