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Most Americans aren’t buying Woke Capital’s pledge to Be Better in the War on Racism:

There are only two possible responses to “In the wake of the protests against the deaths of African Americans during encounters with police, many companies have responded by making anti-racism statements that include commitments to equality, instituting new diversity initiatives or pledging support for black-owned businesses. Do you believe these statements are pandering to consumers, or an indication of a genuine commitment to fight racism?” The choices are “generally pandering” or “generally genuine”, so residual values above represent the percentages who view corporate press releases and payouts as sincere.

Sales are not Woke Capital’s pressure point, though. Boycotts are slow, hard to sustain, easily undermined by complacency, and mitigated by corresponding buycotts.

Where corporations are vulnerable is through their public facing portals. Nobody cares if you’re going to stop buying Krusty Shakes because the soft serve was warm. That’s an easy way to hustle a free meal, but it’s not going viral. Call out Krusty Burger for failing to pay the BLMgeld (pronounced “blame-geld”), though, and you’ll have the undivided attention of the company’s entire social media team. Go after Krusty Burger’s suppliers in the same way, asking whether or not they condone what Krusty Burger is doing, and panic really sets in. The shakedown payout–or dopamine hit, if voluntary thought policing if your jam–is as good as yours!

 
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  1. Yeah, the numbers are high because, unfortunately, most of us have worked for Big Biz for small or large portions of our lives. We know firsthand how much they collectively act like pussies. This has been the case way back before this “woke” stuff. C’mon, guys, t’s all ass-covering nowadays.

    • Agree: usNthem
  2. A lot of the public outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and this Brooks fellow is not really about them at all. BLM is capitalizing on the public mood shift of course, and Woke Capital is capitalizing on BLM (because, at bottom, Woke Capital is incredibly stupid), but that isn’t what it’s really about. Nor is it about racial tensions.

    This is about years and years of pent-up frustration with a system that no longer works. The average, law-abiding person today feels like a sucker for playing by the rules; he feels like the powers that be are militating against his little life with an incomprehensible degree of arrogance and callousness, and that he has much more to lose to the system than what he gains by it. The average man not only cannot get ahead, he is one missed payment or doctor’s visit or altercation with a careless cop away from total ruin.

    The police are very visible symbols of this broken system. For years we have watched the cops blow away people with impunity, shoot people’s dogs, walk around peaceful neighborhoods and schools in combat armor, harass decent citizens for trivial offenses, never face justice for their excessive force, and walk away from it all with the kind of six-figure pensions and cadillac care that Joe Blow can only dream about. There is a seething frustration with all this just under the surface. It cannot articulate itself; it has no verbal or political outlet, so it bursts out in strange ways using words not really its own.

    Looked at in this way, it makes a curious kind of sense that the men whose deaths finally occasioned the long overdue day of reckoning, Floyd and Brooks, have nothing personally commendable about them. It isn’t about them at all. It’s about ordinary people saying “Screw it!” Opting out is, I believe, the polite terminology.

    An innocent victim could not have generated this sort of outrage. If the cops had gunned down a mother and her baby, for instance, it either would have been dismissed as an accident or it would have been dealt with in the ordinary course of law or it would have been added to the smoldering pile of silent resentment that we all already feel. We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness. These people don’t kill us directly, but they degrade and insult us on a constant basis. They don’t come sneaking out of the bushes to beat us on the back of the head and take our wallets, but they do take away our freedom, our dignity, and our manhood. Why is it that so many ordinary people want to stand up and say “I am George Floyd” when such people never would have come within a million miles of the kind of life that he lived? It’s because his symbolic value is not in how he lived but in how he died. We are all George Floyd because we all can’t breathe. We all have our faces smashed into the ground by The Man and we’re freaking sick of it. Nobody knows how to say this, so instead they say “Black Lives Matter.”

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks. This is all quite deserved and has very little to do with race. Do not confuse the yodel with the avalanche.

    • Agree: AaronB, animalogic, dfordoom, utu
    • Disagree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @anarcocapitalist
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I’d like to agree with you, but the people rioting and demanding the police take a knee are the same people tearing down statues of dead white males.

    They won’t go for the banks because no one’s allowed to think about the banks. It’s race-race-race all of the time. Remember what Hillary Clinton asked in 2015-2016, “If we broke up the banks today, how would this end racism?”

    Replies: @dfordoom

    , @Rosie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness.
     
    I don't agree with everything you say here, but this is 100% correct, and I think it is this that drives some of the misogyny on the dissident right. Do men get testosterone hits? If so, I suspect punching down at women delivers a better high than frankly acknowledging that we are ruled by rapacious, out-of-control elites.

    A few days ago, Eric Striker proposed that White advocates make an "underdog's case" for White self-determination. My response: WN machismo won't allow it. My impression is that European men do not suffer from the delusion that standing up to hostile elites is unmanly, and WN misogyny is not nearly as prevalent there as it is here.

    The irony, of course, is that refusing to notice the boot on your neck precludes the possibility of actually doing anything about it.

    Replies: @VinnyVette, @216

    , @Not My Economy
    @Intelligent Dasein

    > Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks.

    The banks are supporting this

    Replies: @dfordoom

    , @PennTothal
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks.
     
    No.

    They are conditioned, persuaded, and channeled to come for the cops/ the old confederate generals/ the rural people with MAGA shirts and firearms, etc.. precisely so that they will NEVER come for the banks.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    , @Truth
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You've been on fire lately Telly-Dase; could it be that I've misjudged you by a few wayward posts?

    Good for you.

    https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3q58T782o3BckDg8

    , @AaronB
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Great comment.

    People who actually think this is about race cannot understand subtext and are prone to taking things literally.

    A big reason the Right lost the culture war was because they took what the Left said at face value and did not understand the subtext. They never understood what the fight was really about.

    And from the looks of it, the Right still struggles with subtext and literalism, judging by all the articles here "refuting" BLM, lol.

    Replies: @usNthem

    , @EmailAsID
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You state some truths, but your take on the whole is bullshit.

    The average black feels empowered by what has been going on for the past three weeks or so. You are probably too far into Conceptland to notice what's going on in the real world. What's going on? A transfer of power from whites to blacks.

    Left anti-whiteism is anti-white first and foremost. Why? Because removing whites from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority and replacing them with non-whites is the goal. Whites are not allowed to speak up except in ways that promote left anti-whiteism and, thus, help non-whites.

    All that is good will flow from the achievement of this goal. The top is to be free of whites and in the vacuum will come the non-whites.

    Ask yourself, ID, what is the end goal of the BLM with respect to white people? What is the role of white people to be culturally, economically, and physically in BLM's utopia?

    Replies: @dfordoom

  3. @Intelligent Dasein
    A lot of the public outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and this Brooks fellow is not really about them at all. BLM is capitalizing on the public mood shift of course, and Woke Capital is capitalizing on BLM (because, at bottom, Woke Capital is incredibly stupid), but that isn't what it's really about. Nor is it about racial tensions.

    This is about years and years of pent-up frustration with a system that no longer works. The average, law-abiding person today feels like a sucker for playing by the rules; he feels like the powers that be are militating against his little life with an incomprehensible degree of arrogance and callousness, and that he has much more to lose to the system than what he gains by it. The average man not only cannot get ahead, he is one missed payment or doctor's visit or altercation with a careless cop away from total ruin.

    The police are very visible symbols of this broken system. For years we have watched the cops blow away people with impunity, shoot people's dogs, walk around peaceful neighborhoods and schools in combat armor, harass decent citizens for trivial offenses, never face justice for their excessive force, and walk away from it all with the kind of six-figure pensions and cadillac care that Joe Blow can only dream about. There is a seething frustration with all this just under the surface. It cannot articulate itself; it has no verbal or political outlet, so it bursts out in strange ways using words not really its own.

    Looked at in this way, it makes a curious kind of sense that the men whose deaths finally occasioned the long overdue day of reckoning, Floyd and Brooks, have nothing personally commendable about them. It isn't about them at all. It's about ordinary people saying "Screw it!" Opting out is, I believe, the polite terminology.

    An innocent victim could not have generated this sort of outrage. If the cops had gunned down a mother and her baby, for instance, it either would have been dismissed as an accident or it would have been dealt with in the ordinary course of law or it would have been added to the smoldering pile of silent resentment that we all already feel. We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness. These people don't kill us directly, but they degrade and insult us on a constant basis. They don't come sneaking out of the bushes to beat us on the back of the head and take our wallets, but they do take away our freedom, our dignity, and our manhood. Why is it that so many ordinary people want to stand up and say "I am George Floyd" when such people never would have come within a million miles of the kind of life that he lived? It's because his symbolic value is not in how he lived but in how he died. We are all George Floyd because we all can't breathe. We all have our faces smashed into the ground by The Man and we're freaking sick of it. Nobody knows how to say this, so instead they say "Black Lives Matter."

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks. This is all quite deserved and has very little to do with race. Do not confuse the yodel with the avalanche.

    Replies: @anarcocapitalist, @Rosie, @Not My Economy, @PennTothal, @Truth, @AaronB, @EmailAsID

    I’d like to agree with you, but the people rioting and demanding the police take a knee are the same people tearing down statues of dead white males.

    They won’t go for the banks because no one’s allowed to think about the banks. It’s race-race-race all of the time. Remember what Hillary Clinton asked in 2015-2016, “If we broke up the banks today, how would this end racism?”

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @anarcocapitalist


    I’d like to agree with you, but the people rioting and demanding the police take a knee are the same people tearing down statues of dead white males.
     
    Tearing down statues of dead white males actually has nothing to do with race. It's an attack on the cherished symbols of a system that is screwing people. The fact that they're dead white males is irrelevant. They're statues that have great symbolic importance to the people who support the current corrupt failed system.

    The people tearing down statues of dead white males are also not Marxists. Their understanding of political concepts such as Marxism or fascism is non-existent. They're just people who are angry and they don't really understand why they're angry but they know they're angry.

    The reason they're going after those statues and the reason they're spray-painting the hammer and sickle is because doing those things triggers the people who support the current corrupt failed system. It's a way of hitting back. These are not true political acts because they're being carried out by people who are politically naïve. They're simply signs of extreme anger and frustration.

    Not everything is about race. Even blacks are not really angry abut racism. They're angry for much the same reasons whites are angry. They think that the system is not working.

    Replies: @silviosilver

  4. Nodwink says:
    June 18, 2020 at 7:38 am GMT • 100 Words   

    from Mirriam-Webster

    Legal Definition of pandering

    1 : the act or crime of recruiting prostitutes or of arranging a situation for another to practice prostitution — compare pimp entry 2
    2 : the act or crime of selling or distributing visual or print media (as magazines) designed to appeal to the recipient’s sexual interest

    Man, I could really go for a Starbucks…

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Nodwink

    "Man, I could really go for a Starbucks…"

    Really? Have you seen some of the sows they've hired in a Starbucks to replace the first wave of Covid19 layoffs who are still busy working the $600.00 a week unemployment benefits bonus? Not that Starbucks was ever like a Hooters to start with, but a lot of these scab gals look like Waffle House rejects.

    Anyway, you brought seedy sex up, so I figured it would be OK to toss in some of my seedy misogyny.

    Replies: @Nodwink

  5. Rosie says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    A lot of the public outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and this Brooks fellow is not really about them at all. BLM is capitalizing on the public mood shift of course, and Woke Capital is capitalizing on BLM (because, at bottom, Woke Capital is incredibly stupid), but that isn't what it's really about. Nor is it about racial tensions.

    This is about years and years of pent-up frustration with a system that no longer works. The average, law-abiding person today feels like a sucker for playing by the rules; he feels like the powers that be are militating against his little life with an incomprehensible degree of arrogance and callousness, and that he has much more to lose to the system than what he gains by it. The average man not only cannot get ahead, he is one missed payment or doctor's visit or altercation with a careless cop away from total ruin.

    The police are very visible symbols of this broken system. For years we have watched the cops blow away people with impunity, shoot people's dogs, walk around peaceful neighborhoods and schools in combat armor, harass decent citizens for trivial offenses, never face justice for their excessive force, and walk away from it all with the kind of six-figure pensions and cadillac care that Joe Blow can only dream about. There is a seething frustration with all this just under the surface. It cannot articulate itself; it has no verbal or political outlet, so it bursts out in strange ways using words not really its own.

    Looked at in this way, it makes a curious kind of sense that the men whose deaths finally occasioned the long overdue day of reckoning, Floyd and Brooks, have nothing personally commendable about them. It isn't about them at all. It's about ordinary people saying "Screw it!" Opting out is, I believe, the polite terminology.

    An innocent victim could not have generated this sort of outrage. If the cops had gunned down a mother and her baby, for instance, it either would have been dismissed as an accident or it would have been dealt with in the ordinary course of law or it would have been added to the smoldering pile of silent resentment that we all already feel. We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness. These people don't kill us directly, but they degrade and insult us on a constant basis. They don't come sneaking out of the bushes to beat us on the back of the head and take our wallets, but they do take away our freedom, our dignity, and our manhood. Why is it that so many ordinary people want to stand up and say "I am George Floyd" when such people never would have come within a million miles of the kind of life that he lived? It's because his symbolic value is not in how he lived but in how he died. We are all George Floyd because we all can't breathe. We all have our faces smashed into the ground by The Man and we're freaking sick of it. Nobody knows how to say this, so instead they say "Black Lives Matter."

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks. This is all quite deserved and has very little to do with race. Do not confuse the yodel with the avalanche.

    Replies: @anarcocapitalist, @Rosie, @Not My Economy, @PennTothal, @Truth, @AaronB, @EmailAsID

    We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness.

    I don’t agree with everything you say here, but this is 100% correct, and I think it is this that drives some of the misogyny on the dissident right. Do men get testosterone hits? If so, I suspect punching down at women delivers a better high than frankly acknowledging that we are ruled by rapacious, out-of-control elites.

    A few days ago, Eric Striker proposed that White advocates make an “underdog’s case” for White self-determination. My response: WN machismo won’t allow it. My impression is that European men do not suffer from the delusion that standing up to hostile elites is unmanly, and WN misogyny is not nearly as prevalent there as it is here.

    The irony, of course, is that refusing to notice the boot on your neck precludes the possibility of actually doing anything about it.

    • Replies: @VinnyVette
    @Rosie

    "Men punching down at women?" Don't like it do ya sweatheart! Men have been relentlessly hammered in every way shape and form since the advent of 60's 3rd wave feminazi ism. Ever heard of Suzanne Volker? Look her up! I won't get into the details because you already know them. You won't likely find any sympathy around these parts. Just more "poor me" pissing and moaning from a woman who doesn't like it that the party's over for the "womynze". You are a troll!

    Replies: @Truth

    , @216
    @Rosie

    Blaming the elites, or even a specific billionaire, is impersonal.

    Blaming your ex-wife, is personal.

    For the younger guys, blaming the women who won't date you, or worse have an OnlyFans, is personal; also a way to dodge the guilt from porn consumption.

    Scott Adams said that Hillary was like your ex-wife, or the HR manager from work.

    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Rosie, @dfordoom

  6. But would actually happen if a company said something like “We at XYZ Corp reject BLM and ANTIFA violence. We are not a political organization, we are a business focused on delivering/producing the best blah blah blah… for our customers” and refused to pay the BLMgeld?

    It’s a bad look for the social media marketing team (probably mostly politically clueless wokesters themselves) and a possible loss of status in their professional circles, but beyond that what?

    • Replies: @John Achterhof
    @silviosilver

    Predicated on some demand for whatever XYZ is selling, XYZ would have a line of customers a mile long at its doors in appreciation of the bold splash of defiance to the creeping, expropriative, soft-totalitarian woke-mob cancel culture.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @silviosilver

    Is there a corporation in the country as honest as the boy in The Emperor's New Clothes?

  7. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    The best part is many of these brands now don’t know how to keep using their Twitter accounts. Once you post your super serial ‘Black Lives Matter’ message, what do you post afterward? Doritos hasn’t posting anything in weeks, you can’t delete it and you can’t start up again promoting ‘New Ultra Spicy Jalapeno Doritos!’.

    I suppose one way would be to hire a young black woman with an afro to be your new head of social media or Twitter account and then post a picture of her smiling and introducing her. But if that’s the case already I don’t see what they can do.

  8. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    The most extreme example so far though happened last night when the English Premiere League started back up in empty stadiums. Every player and official took a knee before the game and if that wasn’t enough, every player had their name replaced on the back of their shirt with ‘Black Lives Matter’.

    What I love about the clip is the piped in crowd noise. It’s a subtle metaphor for something…

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Altai

    It's as if everything about modern society is astroturfed.

    Small wonder so many people want to see it all burn.

  9. @Rosie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness.
     
    I don't agree with everything you say here, but this is 100% correct, and I think it is this that drives some of the misogyny on the dissident right. Do men get testosterone hits? If so, I suspect punching down at women delivers a better high than frankly acknowledging that we are ruled by rapacious, out-of-control elites.

    A few days ago, Eric Striker proposed that White advocates make an "underdog's case" for White self-determination. My response: WN machismo won't allow it. My impression is that European men do not suffer from the delusion that standing up to hostile elites is unmanly, and WN misogyny is not nearly as prevalent there as it is here.

    The irony, of course, is that refusing to notice the boot on your neck precludes the possibility of actually doing anything about it.

    Replies: @VinnyVette, @216

    “Men punching down at women?” Don’t like it do ya sweatheart! Men have been relentlessly hammered in every way shape and form since the advent of 60’s 3rd wave feminazi ism. Ever heard of Suzanne Volker? Look her up! I won’t get into the details because you already know them. You won’t likely find any sympathy around these parts. Just more “poor me” pissing and moaning from a woman who doesn’t like it that the party’s over for the “womynze”. You are a troll!

    • LOL: Rosie
    • Replies: @Truth
    @VinnyVette

    Well I'm glad white men and women are still united.

    Replies: @Rosie

  10. Lowe says:
    June 18, 2020 at 1:02 pm GMT • 100 Words   

    The survey just shows how ignorant most people are.

    Those running the corporations are not pandering. They were educated at the same top-tier schools, by the same professors with Leftist bent, and selected by the same admissions committees, for maximal conformism to woke ideology.

    They are not pretending, or playing a self-serving game. They are genuine party commissars, because that is what they were selected to be. They will sacrifice profit immediately, for wokeness, and this is only rational. Profit is just money. Wokeness is power.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
    • Replies: @216
    @Lowe

    See: James, LeBron and the People's Republic of China

    Confronted with an adversary that pushes back, WokeCapital bends the knee.

    We haven't tested the thesis that they would ignore profit if it brought them to the brink of bankruptcy.

    If every Trump voter permanently drops the NFL in the fall, will they change, I think so.

    But we know that most conservatives want to just sit back and grill.

    Replies: @Lowe

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Lowe

    But surely there are a few rogues out there who care more about money than power, aren't there? Where are they?

    Replies: @dfordoom

  11. @Intelligent Dasein
    A lot of the public outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and this Brooks fellow is not really about them at all. BLM is capitalizing on the public mood shift of course, and Woke Capital is capitalizing on BLM (because, at bottom, Woke Capital is incredibly stupid), but that isn't what it's really about. Nor is it about racial tensions.

    This is about years and years of pent-up frustration with a system that no longer works. The average, law-abiding person today feels like a sucker for playing by the rules; he feels like the powers that be are militating against his little life with an incomprehensible degree of arrogance and callousness, and that he has much more to lose to the system than what he gains by it. The average man not only cannot get ahead, he is one missed payment or doctor's visit or altercation with a careless cop away from total ruin.

    The police are very visible symbols of this broken system. For years we have watched the cops blow away people with impunity, shoot people's dogs, walk around peaceful neighborhoods and schools in combat armor, harass decent citizens for trivial offenses, never face justice for their excessive force, and walk away from it all with the kind of six-figure pensions and cadillac care that Joe Blow can only dream about. There is a seething frustration with all this just under the surface. It cannot articulate itself; it has no verbal or political outlet, so it bursts out in strange ways using words not really its own.

    Looked at in this way, it makes a curious kind of sense that the men whose deaths finally occasioned the long overdue day of reckoning, Floyd and Brooks, have nothing personally commendable about them. It isn't about them at all. It's about ordinary people saying "Screw it!" Opting out is, I believe, the polite terminology.

    An innocent victim could not have generated this sort of outrage. If the cops had gunned down a mother and her baby, for instance, it either would have been dismissed as an accident or it would have been dealt with in the ordinary course of law or it would have been added to the smoldering pile of silent resentment that we all already feel. We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness. These people don't kill us directly, but they degrade and insult us on a constant basis. They don't come sneaking out of the bushes to beat us on the back of the head and take our wallets, but they do take away our freedom, our dignity, and our manhood. Why is it that so many ordinary people want to stand up and say "I am George Floyd" when such people never would have come within a million miles of the kind of life that he lived? It's because his symbolic value is not in how he lived but in how he died. We are all George Floyd because we all can't breathe. We all have our faces smashed into the ground by The Man and we're freaking sick of it. Nobody knows how to say this, so instead they say "Black Lives Matter."

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks. This is all quite deserved and has very little to do with race. Do not confuse the yodel with the avalanche.

    Replies: @anarcocapitalist, @Rosie, @Not My Economy, @PennTothal, @Truth, @AaronB, @EmailAsID

    > Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks.

    The banks are supporting this

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Not My Economy



    > Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks.
     
    The banks are supporting this
     
    Because the banks believe that if they pander to Wokeness they can go on screwing us all and no-one will come after them for it.
  12. @silviosilver
    But would actually happen if a company said something like "We at XYZ Corp reject BLM and ANTIFA violence. We are not a political organization, we are a business focused on delivering/producing the best blah blah blah... for our customers" and refused to pay the BLMgeld?

    It's a bad look for the social media marketing team (probably mostly politically clueless wokesters themselves) and a possible loss of status in their professional circles, but beyond that what?

    Replies: @John Achterhof, @Audacious Epigone

    Predicated on some demand for whatever XYZ is selling, XYZ would have a line of customers a mile long at its doors in appreciation of the bold splash of defiance to the creeping, expropriative, soft-totalitarian woke-mob cancel culture.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @John Achterhof


    Predicated on some demand for whatever XYZ is selling, XYZ would have a line of customers a mile long at its doors in appreciation of the bold splash of defiance to the creeping, expropriative, soft-totalitarian woke-mob cancel culture.
     
    Wishful thinking.
  13. Brand loyalty is built young. So the main reason for the Marketing effort can be seen in an earlier AE graphic.
    ..
    The great Corporate Pander is marketing aimed directly at the Brand flexible portion of population (based on age).
    _____

    The question is, “Will it work?”

    The rapid response effort seems to be so clumsy, the Corporate Pander may backfire.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Znzn
    @A123

    Would you like to get volunteered to the reeducation camp?

    Replies: @A123

  14. pay the BLMgeld (pronounced “blame-geld”)

    Good one.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
  15. @Intelligent Dasein
    A lot of the public outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and this Brooks fellow is not really about them at all. BLM is capitalizing on the public mood shift of course, and Woke Capital is capitalizing on BLM (because, at bottom, Woke Capital is incredibly stupid), but that isn't what it's really about. Nor is it about racial tensions.

    This is about years and years of pent-up frustration with a system that no longer works. The average, law-abiding person today feels like a sucker for playing by the rules; he feels like the powers that be are militating against his little life with an incomprehensible degree of arrogance and callousness, and that he has much more to lose to the system than what he gains by it. The average man not only cannot get ahead, he is one missed payment or doctor's visit or altercation with a careless cop away from total ruin.

    The police are very visible symbols of this broken system. For years we have watched the cops blow away people with impunity, shoot people's dogs, walk around peaceful neighborhoods and schools in combat armor, harass decent citizens for trivial offenses, never face justice for their excessive force, and walk away from it all with the kind of six-figure pensions and cadillac care that Joe Blow can only dream about. There is a seething frustration with all this just under the surface. It cannot articulate itself; it has no verbal or political outlet, so it bursts out in strange ways using words not really its own.

    Looked at in this way, it makes a curious kind of sense that the men whose deaths finally occasioned the long overdue day of reckoning, Floyd and Brooks, have nothing personally commendable about them. It isn't about them at all. It's about ordinary people saying "Screw it!" Opting out is, I believe, the polite terminology.

    An innocent victim could not have generated this sort of outrage. If the cops had gunned down a mother and her baby, for instance, it either would have been dismissed as an accident or it would have been dealt with in the ordinary course of law or it would have been added to the smoldering pile of silent resentment that we all already feel. We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness. These people don't kill us directly, but they degrade and insult us on a constant basis. They don't come sneaking out of the bushes to beat us on the back of the head and take our wallets, but they do take away our freedom, our dignity, and our manhood. Why is it that so many ordinary people want to stand up and say "I am George Floyd" when such people never would have come within a million miles of the kind of life that he lived? It's because his symbolic value is not in how he lived but in how he died. We are all George Floyd because we all can't breathe. We all have our faces smashed into the ground by The Man and we're freaking sick of it. Nobody knows how to say this, so instead they say "Black Lives Matter."

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks. This is all quite deserved and has very little to do with race. Do not confuse the yodel with the avalanche.

    Replies: @anarcocapitalist, @Rosie, @Not My Economy, @PennTothal, @Truth, @AaronB, @EmailAsID

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks.

    No.

    They are conditioned, persuaded, and channeled to come for the cops/ the old confederate generals/ the rural people with MAGA shirts and firearms, etc.. precisely so that they will NEVER come for the banks.

    • Agree: TomSchmidt
    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @PennTothal

    But, you must recall, the mob is uncontrolled. The banks might back it now thinking they can dissipate class anger in racial conflict. The time will come when the mob has passed a point of controlling. When that happens, they just might come for the banks.

  16. @A123
    Brand loyalty is built young. So the main reason for the Marketing effort can be seen in an earlier AE graphic.
    .
    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/antibias.png
    .
    The great Corporate Pander is marketing aimed directly at the Brand flexible portion of population (based on age).
    _____

    The question is, "Will it work?"

    The rapid response effort seems to be so clumsy, the Corporate Pander may backfire.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @Znzn

    Would you like to get volunteered to the reeducation camp?

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
    @Znzn


    Would you like to get volunteered to the reeducation camp?
     
    Far too late for me to worry about that now.
    ___

    An interesting point not shown in AE's chart is Conservative as opposed to Republican (Pg. 53 of the download).

    REP is # of responses 375 @ 70% pandering
    CON is # of responses 437 @ 77% pandering

    So there is Conservative response available for use by the GOP.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

  17. @Intelligent Dasein
    A lot of the public outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and this Brooks fellow is not really about them at all. BLM is capitalizing on the public mood shift of course, and Woke Capital is capitalizing on BLM (because, at bottom, Woke Capital is incredibly stupid), but that isn't what it's really about. Nor is it about racial tensions.

    This is about years and years of pent-up frustration with a system that no longer works. The average, law-abiding person today feels like a sucker for playing by the rules; he feels like the powers that be are militating against his little life with an incomprehensible degree of arrogance and callousness, and that he has much more to lose to the system than what he gains by it. The average man not only cannot get ahead, he is one missed payment or doctor's visit or altercation with a careless cop away from total ruin.

    The police are very visible symbols of this broken system. For years we have watched the cops blow away people with impunity, shoot people's dogs, walk around peaceful neighborhoods and schools in combat armor, harass decent citizens for trivial offenses, never face justice for their excessive force, and walk away from it all with the kind of six-figure pensions and cadillac care that Joe Blow can only dream about. There is a seething frustration with all this just under the surface. It cannot articulate itself; it has no verbal or political outlet, so it bursts out in strange ways using words not really its own.

    Looked at in this way, it makes a curious kind of sense that the men whose deaths finally occasioned the long overdue day of reckoning, Floyd and Brooks, have nothing personally commendable about them. It isn't about them at all. It's about ordinary people saying "Screw it!" Opting out is, I believe, the polite terminology.

    An innocent victim could not have generated this sort of outrage. If the cops had gunned down a mother and her baby, for instance, it either would have been dismissed as an accident or it would have been dealt with in the ordinary course of law or it would have been added to the smoldering pile of silent resentment that we all already feel. We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness. These people don't kill us directly, but they degrade and insult us on a constant basis. They don't come sneaking out of the bushes to beat us on the back of the head and take our wallets, but they do take away our freedom, our dignity, and our manhood. Why is it that so many ordinary people want to stand up and say "I am George Floyd" when such people never would have come within a million miles of the kind of life that he lived? It's because his symbolic value is not in how he lived but in how he died. We are all George Floyd because we all can't breathe. We all have our faces smashed into the ground by The Man and we're freaking sick of it. Nobody knows how to say this, so instead they say "Black Lives Matter."

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks. This is all quite deserved and has very little to do with race. Do not confuse the yodel with the avalanche.

    Replies: @anarcocapitalist, @Rosie, @Not My Economy, @PennTothal, @Truth, @AaronB, @EmailAsID

    You’ve been on fire lately Telly-Dase; could it be that I’ve misjudged you by a few wayward posts?

    Good for you.

    https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3q58T782o3BckDg8

  18. @VinnyVette
    @Rosie

    "Men punching down at women?" Don't like it do ya sweatheart! Men have been relentlessly hammered in every way shape and form since the advent of 60's 3rd wave feminazi ism. Ever heard of Suzanne Volker? Look her up! I won't get into the details because you already know them. You won't likely find any sympathy around these parts. Just more "poor me" pissing and moaning from a woman who doesn't like it that the party's over for the "womynze". You are a troll!

    Replies: @Truth

    Well I’m glad white men and women are still united.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Truth


    Well I’m glad white men and women are still united.
     
    Me too.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/816438/attitudes-toward-gender-equality-uk/
  19. A123 says:
    June 18, 2020 at 3:37 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Znzn
    @A123

    Would you like to get volunteered to the reeducation camp?

    Replies: @A123

    Would you like to get volunteered to the reeducation camp?

    Far too late for me to worry about that now.
    ___

    An interesting point not shown in AE’s chart is Conservative as opposed to Republican (Pg. 53 of the download).

    REP is # of responses 375 @ 70% pandering
    CON is # of responses 437 @ 77% pandering

    So there is Conservative response available for use by the GOP.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @songbird
    @A123


    So there is Conservative response available for use by the GOP.
     
    Not necessarily - some groups just identify with the word more than they are willing to vote GOP.
  20. BLMGeld…even better would be BAMEGeld, as they refer to minorities in England. Plus England actually has a history with the Dane geld.

  21. AaronB says:
    June 18, 2020 at 4:42 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @Intelligent Dasein
    A lot of the public outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and this Brooks fellow is not really about them at all. BLM is capitalizing on the public mood shift of course, and Woke Capital is capitalizing on BLM (because, at bottom, Woke Capital is incredibly stupid), but that isn't what it's really about. Nor is it about racial tensions.

    This is about years and years of pent-up frustration with a system that no longer works. The average, law-abiding person today feels like a sucker for playing by the rules; he feels like the powers that be are militating against his little life with an incomprehensible degree of arrogance and callousness, and that he has much more to lose to the system than what he gains by it. The average man not only cannot get ahead, he is one missed payment or doctor's visit or altercation with a careless cop away from total ruin.

    The police are very visible symbols of this broken system. For years we have watched the cops blow away people with impunity, shoot people's dogs, walk around peaceful neighborhoods and schools in combat armor, harass decent citizens for trivial offenses, never face justice for their excessive force, and walk away from it all with the kind of six-figure pensions and cadillac care that Joe Blow can only dream about. There is a seething frustration with all this just under the surface. It cannot articulate itself; it has no verbal or political outlet, so it bursts out in strange ways using words not really its own.

    Looked at in this way, it makes a curious kind of sense that the men whose deaths finally occasioned the long overdue day of reckoning, Floyd and Brooks, have nothing personally commendable about them. It isn't about them at all. It's about ordinary people saying "Screw it!" Opting out is, I believe, the polite terminology.

    An innocent victim could not have generated this sort of outrage. If the cops had gunned down a mother and her baby, for instance, it either would have been dismissed as an accident or it would have been dealt with in the ordinary course of law or it would have been added to the smoldering pile of silent resentment that we all already feel. We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness. These people don't kill us directly, but they degrade and insult us on a constant basis. They don't come sneaking out of the bushes to beat us on the back of the head and take our wallets, but they do take away our freedom, our dignity, and our manhood. Why is it that so many ordinary people want to stand up and say "I am George Floyd" when such people never would have come within a million miles of the kind of life that he lived? It's because his symbolic value is not in how he lived but in how he died. We are all George Floyd because we all can't breathe. We all have our faces smashed into the ground by The Man and we're freaking sick of it. Nobody knows how to say this, so instead they say "Black Lives Matter."

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks. This is all quite deserved and has very little to do with race. Do not confuse the yodel with the avalanche.

    Replies: @anarcocapitalist, @Rosie, @Not My Economy, @PennTothal, @Truth, @AaronB, @EmailAsID

    Great comment.

    People who actually think this is about race cannot understand subtext and are prone to taking things literally.

    A big reason the Right lost the culture war was because they took what the Left said at face value and did not understand the subtext. They never understood what the fight was really about.

    And from the looks of it, the Right still struggles with subtext and literalism, judging by all the articles here “refuting” BLM, lol.

    • Replies: @usNthem
    @AaronB

    That’s right - not about race at all, when every corporation/organization is kneeling down and kissing black ass - lecturing about racial/social injustice - I guess that’s a big psyop. Keep convincing yourself it’s all about the “subtexts” that us rubes just can’t understand. Sure, the left is all about power acquisition by any and all means, but if you don’t think there’s a significant racial component to it, you’ll eventually find yourself in the cannibal’s pot.

  22. songbird says:
    June 18, 2020 at 5:17 pm GMT • 200 Words   

    We are living under some strange economic system. I haven’t heard a good holistic name for it, though there seem to be names that aptly describe parts of it: woke capital, lawfare, cancel-culture, etc.

    Some people seem to call it “late-stage capitalism”, but I don’t think that encapsulates it either because it doesn’t encompass the foundation involved, the individual dynamics at play, or the incentives and motivations. It would be simple to call it “woke capitalism”, but again, I don’t think that covers the earlier decades, when affirmative action was first initiated and the groundwork laid. “Globalism” is good in certain ways, but is too macro.

    How much of the economy is woke? Or else some kind of egalitarian transference? I wonder how it would compare to certain distortions in the GDP of the USSR. Like the size of the black market. I’ve heard that in the ’80s the Soviet military controlled something just north of 50% of the official economy. But that figure is not just MIC but involves their ownership of the production of some consumer goods, or things like printing presses for newspapers.

    Perhaps, our problem is that we cannot create a black-market of non-woke, where people can flee the parasitism. The incentive structure doesn’t exist, especially on the elite end. And creating non-woke co-ops is difficult because of anti-discrimination laws, and a thousand other factors. It is easy to put pressure a small operation.

    • Replies: @Lowe
    @songbird

    Spandrell's Bioleninism is basically the perfect description of the system we live under in the West. All our elites subscribe to the worldview that human beings are equal on the inside, which means there must be hidden oppression, lurking somewhere.

    They genuinely believe it, because they are basically selected to believe it, from adolescence to early adulthood, and beyond. It is convenient because it allows them to recruit absolutely loyal henchmen in blacks, homos, and ugly women, and the supposed hidden oppression is a great excuse to impose real, overt oppression on their class enemies: lower-middle to middle class whites.

    All of the big businesses are woke, which is a huge part of the economy, and growing percentage-wise, as they use their wokeism to smash their enemies in the small to mid-size businesses.

    There is definitely an incentive to develop an alternative economy free of the wokeist oppressors. That is actually what cryptocurrency was developed to do, but it does not work because the technical capital available to the wokeists in the FBI, NSA, etc is too great. They can find and stomp any black or gray market of scale. That is not going to change until Western demographics become so bad they cannot even recruit enough white men for the federal police. But by then society will be unbelievably horrible, with the drug cartels running rampant, most likely.

    Replies: @songbird

    , @The Alarmist
    @songbird


    We are living under some strange economic system. I haven’t heard a good holistic name for it, though there seem to be names that aptly describe parts of it: woke capital, lawfare, cancel-culture, etc.
     
    The best descriptor I have heard for our current economy is 'Casino Gulag.'
  23. @A123
    @Znzn


    Would you like to get volunteered to the reeducation camp?
     
    Far too late for me to worry about that now.
    ___

    An interesting point not shown in AE's chart is Conservative as opposed to Republican (Pg. 53 of the download).

    REP is # of responses 375 @ 70% pandering
    CON is # of responses 437 @ 77% pandering

    So there is Conservative response available for use by the GOP.

    PEACE 😇

    Replies: @songbird

    So there is Conservative response available for use by the GOP.

    Not necessarily – some groups just identify with the word more than they are willing to vote GOP.

  24. Lowe says:
    June 18, 2020 at 6:12 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @songbird
    We are living under some strange economic system. I haven't heard a good holistic name for it, though there seem to be names that aptly describe parts of it: woke capital, lawfare, cancel-culture, etc.

    Some people seem to call it "late-stage capitalism", but I don't think that encapsulates it either because it doesn't encompass the foundation involved, the individual dynamics at play, or the incentives and motivations. It would be simple to call it "woke capitalism", but again, I don't think that covers the earlier decades, when affirmative action was first initiated and the groundwork laid. "Globalism" is good in certain ways, but is too macro.

    How much of the economy is woke? Or else some kind of egalitarian transference? I wonder how it would compare to certain distortions in the GDP of the USSR. Like the size of the black market. I've heard that in the '80s the Soviet military controlled something just north of 50% of the official economy. But that figure is not just MIC but involves their ownership of the production of some consumer goods, or things like printing presses for newspapers.

    Perhaps, our problem is that we cannot create a black-market of non-woke, where people can flee the parasitism. The incentive structure doesn't exist, especially on the elite end. And creating non-woke co-ops is difficult because of anti-discrimination laws, and a thousand other factors. It is easy to put pressure a small operation.

    Replies: @Lowe, @The Alarmist

    Spandrell’s Bioleninism is basically the perfect description of the system we live under in the West. All our elites subscribe to the worldview that human beings are equal on the inside, which means there must be hidden oppression, lurking somewhere.

    They genuinely believe it, because they are basically selected to believe it, from adolescence to early adulthood, and beyond. It is convenient because it allows them to recruit absolutely loyal henchmen in blacks, homos, and ugly women, and the supposed hidden oppression is a great excuse to impose real, overt oppression on their class enemies: lower-middle to middle class whites.

    All of the big businesses are woke, which is a huge part of the economy, and growing percentage-wise, as they use their wokeism to smash their enemies in the small to mid-size businesses.

    There is definitely an incentive to develop an alternative economy free of the wokeist oppressors. That is actually what cryptocurrency was developed to do, but it does not work because the technical capital available to the wokeists in the FBI, NSA, etc is too great. They can find and stomp any black or gray market of scale. That is not going to change until Western demographics become so bad they cannot even recruit enough white men for the federal police. But by then society will be unbelievably horrible, with the drug cartels running rampant, most likely.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Lowe

    I'm a big fan of the term "Bioleninism." It's very clever in many ways, and seems to capture a lot of the sociodynamics.

    But I think it is missing at least one or two layers. Bioleninism is a term that can be applied to other spans of history. Even in more modern times, where it could be applied to Soviet sphere, or to Maoist China, I think it had different characteristics. I think we are dealing with a new form of Bioleninism, one supercharged by various characteristics of the West, for the past few decades. The great wealth formed by capitalism - the enormous volume of media produced in the Anglosphere - the countless people being brainwashed and insulated in higher education - the ease of modern communications and travel - and the ease of birth control.

    "Techno-bioleninism" is unfortunately seven syllables, but I really feel technology is a part of it.

    Replies: @Lowe

  25. @PennTothal
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks.
     
    No.

    They are conditioned, persuaded, and channeled to come for the cops/ the old confederate generals/ the rural people with MAGA shirts and firearms, etc.. precisely so that they will NEVER come for the banks.

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    But, you must recall, the mob is uncontrolled. The banks might back it now thinking they can dissipate class anger in racial conflict. The time will come when the mob has passed a point of controlling. When that happens, they just might come for the banks.

  26. songbird says:
    June 18, 2020 at 8:46 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @Lowe
    @songbird

    Spandrell's Bioleninism is basically the perfect description of the system we live under in the West. All our elites subscribe to the worldview that human beings are equal on the inside, which means there must be hidden oppression, lurking somewhere.

    They genuinely believe it, because they are basically selected to believe it, from adolescence to early adulthood, and beyond. It is convenient because it allows them to recruit absolutely loyal henchmen in blacks, homos, and ugly women, and the supposed hidden oppression is a great excuse to impose real, overt oppression on their class enemies: lower-middle to middle class whites.

    All of the big businesses are woke, which is a huge part of the economy, and growing percentage-wise, as they use their wokeism to smash their enemies in the small to mid-size businesses.

    There is definitely an incentive to develop an alternative economy free of the wokeist oppressors. That is actually what cryptocurrency was developed to do, but it does not work because the technical capital available to the wokeists in the FBI, NSA, etc is too great. They can find and stomp any black or gray market of scale. That is not going to change until Western demographics become so bad they cannot even recruit enough white men for the federal police. But by then society will be unbelievably horrible, with the drug cartels running rampant, most likely.

    Replies: @songbird

    I’m a big fan of the term “Bioleninism.” It’s very clever in many ways, and seems to capture a lot of the sociodynamics.

    But I think it is missing at least one or two layers. Bioleninism is a term that can be applied to other spans of history. Even in more modern times, where it could be applied to Soviet sphere, or to Maoist China, I think it had different characteristics. I think we are dealing with a new form of Bioleninism, one supercharged by various characteristics of the West, for the past few decades. The great wealth formed by capitalism – the enormous volume of media produced in the Anglosphere – the countless people being brainwashed and insulated in higher education – the ease of modern communications and travel – and the ease of birth control.

    “Techno-bioleninism” is unfortunately seven syllables, but I really feel technology is a part of it.

    • Replies: @Lowe
    @songbird

    Bioleninism is unique to the West, and it is unique historically. The Soviets and Maoists practiced classical Leninism, more or less. They drew supporters from those who had been oppressed by social class.

    The problem with this is that many people who have low social class are just unlucky, not biologically deficient. When you give them power they eventually become independent of you, or their children do. Once they have options, it is hard to keep their loyalty.

    Bioleninism is better because you instead recruit people who are never going to become independent. They are biologically deficient. Without your woke ideology, many blacks, homosexuals, and unattractive women know that they would have very little status. In a natural setting they are, unfortunately, going to have inferior status to healthy people, and there is nothing that can ever change this. So they will be loyal to you forever.

    Bioleninism is the next step beyond classical Marxism and Leninism, and it is superior in terms of its strength and sustainability. That is why it has had such amazing success.

  27. They’ll be sorry they lit this fire. It’ll burn down their own system, it will.

    The uncontrollable nature of their patronized pets will ensure that.

  28. @songbird
    We are living under some strange economic system. I haven't heard a good holistic name for it, though there seem to be names that aptly describe parts of it: woke capital, lawfare, cancel-culture, etc.

    Some people seem to call it "late-stage capitalism", but I don't think that encapsulates it either because it doesn't encompass the foundation involved, the individual dynamics at play, or the incentives and motivations. It would be simple to call it "woke capitalism", but again, I don't think that covers the earlier decades, when affirmative action was first initiated and the groundwork laid. "Globalism" is good in certain ways, but is too macro.

    How much of the economy is woke? Or else some kind of egalitarian transference? I wonder how it would compare to certain distortions in the GDP of the USSR. Like the size of the black market. I've heard that in the '80s the Soviet military controlled something just north of 50% of the official economy. But that figure is not just MIC but involves their ownership of the production of some consumer goods, or things like printing presses for newspapers.

    Perhaps, our problem is that we cannot create a black-market of non-woke, where people can flee the parasitism. The incentive structure doesn't exist, especially on the elite end. And creating non-woke co-ops is difficult because of anti-discrimination laws, and a thousand other factors. It is easy to put pressure a small operation.

    Replies: @Lowe, @The Alarmist

    We are living under some strange economic system. I haven’t heard a good holistic name for it, though there seem to be names that aptly describe parts of it: woke capital, lawfare, cancel-culture, etc.

    The best descriptor I have heard for our current economy is ‘Casino Gulag.’

  29. 216 says:
    June 19, 2020 at 1:14 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @Rosie
    @Intelligent Dasein


    We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness.
     
    I don't agree with everything you say here, but this is 100% correct, and I think it is this that drives some of the misogyny on the dissident right. Do men get testosterone hits? If so, I suspect punching down at women delivers a better high than frankly acknowledging that we are ruled by rapacious, out-of-control elites.

    A few days ago, Eric Striker proposed that White advocates make an "underdog's case" for White self-determination. My response: WN machismo won't allow it. My impression is that European men do not suffer from the delusion that standing up to hostile elites is unmanly, and WN misogyny is not nearly as prevalent there as it is here.

    The irony, of course, is that refusing to notice the boot on your neck precludes the possibility of actually doing anything about it.

    Replies: @VinnyVette, @216

    Blaming the elites, or even a specific billionaire, is impersonal.

    Blaming your ex-wife, is personal.

    For the younger guys, blaming the women who won’t date you, or worse have an OnlyFans, is personal; also a way to dodge the guilt from porn consumption.

    Scott Adams said that Hillary was like your ex-wife, or the HR manager from work.

    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @216

    >Scott Adams said that Hillary was like your ex-wife, or the HR manager from work.

    She reminded *a lot* of under-35 guys of your nagging, PC-piety obeying petty authoritarian harpy of a vice principal. Trump's an idiot, but you at least don't get the sense he wants to control your life.

    OT, but anyone else here realized that these woke retards are shifting the Overton Window to the inevitable white identity politics backlash faster than the alt-right ever has? Major cognitive dissonance on the Left: reminding white people over and over again that they are white after decades of putting racism into the same moral category as child molestation, asking them to accept their white identity, and then with their new, consciously crafted white identity, expecting them to go against their group's interests. I always knew that gentry liberals sucked at understanding human nature, but damn!

    Replies: @216

    , @Rosie
    @216


    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)
     
    Yep, Whte Americans make fun of supposedly decadent and effeminate Frenchmen from their man cave couches while the latter are:

    Out in the streets,
    Saying FY to the elites.

    A small band of brave White men attempted this not long ago, and were promptly slapped down by the police. I'm not crying any tears for them just now.
    , @dfordoom
    @216


    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)
     
    Good point.
  30. 216 says:
    June 19, 2020 at 1:17 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @Lowe
    The survey just shows how ignorant most people are.

    Those running the corporations are not pandering. They were educated at the same top-tier schools, by the same professors with Leftist bent, and selected by the same admissions committees, for maximal conformism to woke ideology.

    They are not pretending, or playing a self-serving game. They are genuine party commissars, because that is what they were selected to be. They will sacrifice profit immediately, for wokeness, and this is only rational. Profit is just money. Wokeness is power.

    Replies: @216, @Audacious Epigone

    See: James, LeBron and the People’s Republic of China

    Confronted with an adversary that pushes back, WokeCapital bends the knee.

    We haven’t tested the thesis that they would ignore profit if it brought them to the brink of bankruptcy.

    If every Trump voter permanently drops the NFL in the fall, will they change, I think so.

    But we know that most conservatives want to just sit back and grill.

    • Replies: @Lowe
    @216

    The Chinese do not practice the same political system that we do in the West. It makes sense they could oppose it in many instances. But external opposition is not the same as internal.

    There is no real internal opposition. Almost no conservatives disagree with the fundamental propositions of the woke left. Once you concede civil rights, it's over. I mean, it was over long before that, when the vote was given to anyone but landed men.

    Conservatives just want to grill, like you said. They cannot be bothered to learn why everything going back decades or centuries was mistaken and inevitably leads to our impoverishment and destruction. They are not going to boycott the NFL.

    Even if they did, I would not be so sure that the NFL would drop woke ideology in the slightest way. Everybody in the social spheres of the owners and their children is a woke commissar. They are the class enemies of their customers. Woke ideology is part of their social status, and holding onto social status is more important than making money.

    Jeff Bezos literally said that if you are a racist, he does not want you as a customer. A racist is just anyone who does not believe in woke ideology, particularly they question the special, nominally oppressed status of the biologically broken foot-soldiers of the Left: the blacks, gays, spinsters, etc. Bezos does not care if he loses money on this, but even if he did it couldn't be much, because he knows that people will just shut up and toe the line. Anyone who will not shut up and comply, is worth starving out, even if it means losing some money.

  31. usNthem says:
    June 19, 2020 at 1:26 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @AaronB
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Great comment.

    People who actually think this is about race cannot understand subtext and are prone to taking things literally.

    A big reason the Right lost the culture war was because they took what the Left said at face value and did not understand the subtext. They never understood what the fight was really about.

    And from the looks of it, the Right still struggles with subtext and literalism, judging by all the articles here "refuting" BLM, lol.

    Replies: @usNthem

    That’s right – not about race at all, when every corporation/organization is kneeling down and kissing black ass – lecturing about racial/social injustice – I guess that’s a big psyop. Keep convincing yourself it’s all about the “subtexts” that us rubes just can’t understand. Sure, the left is all about power acquisition by any and all means, but if you don’t think there’s a significant racial component to it, you’ll eventually find yourself in the cannibal’s pot.

  32. nebulafox says:
    June 19, 2020 at 1:44 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @216
    @Rosie

    Blaming the elites, or even a specific billionaire, is impersonal.

    Blaming your ex-wife, is personal.

    For the younger guys, blaming the women who won't date you, or worse have an OnlyFans, is personal; also a way to dodge the guilt from porn consumption.

    Scott Adams said that Hillary was like your ex-wife, or the HR manager from work.

    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Rosie, @dfordoom

    >Scott Adams said that Hillary was like your ex-wife, or the HR manager from work.

    She reminded *a lot* of under-35 guys of your nagging, PC-piety obeying petty authoritarian harpy of a vice principal. Trump’s an idiot, but you at least don’t get the sense he wants to control your life.

    OT, but anyone else here realized that these woke retards are shifting the Overton Window to the inevitable white identity politics backlash faster than the alt-right ever has? Major cognitive dissonance on the Left: reminding white people over and over again that they are white after decades of putting racism into the same moral category as child molestation, asking them to accept their white identity, and then with their new, consciously crafted white identity, expecting them to go against their group’s interests. I always knew that gentry liberals sucked at understanding human nature, but damn!

    • Replies: @216
    @nebulafox

    The Ancient Egyptians who built the Pyramids apparently thought only the Pharaoh would go to the afterlife. So there is precedent for a religion that promises absolutely nothing to its followers.

    The left has succeeded in breaking down white college voters, largely because they haven't actually raised taxes or increased crime. Yet.

    The 20th Century has countless examples of dictatorships which sent millions of men to their deaths.

    Surely the 21st century can send millions of whites into a slow motion suicide.

    The people are bereft of religion, and Woke is providing, it is even burrowing into the established religions.

  33. 216 says:
    June 19, 2020 at 1:58 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @nebulafox
    @216

    >Scott Adams said that Hillary was like your ex-wife, or the HR manager from work.

    She reminded *a lot* of under-35 guys of your nagging, PC-piety obeying petty authoritarian harpy of a vice principal. Trump's an idiot, but you at least don't get the sense he wants to control your life.

    OT, but anyone else here realized that these woke retards are shifting the Overton Window to the inevitable white identity politics backlash faster than the alt-right ever has? Major cognitive dissonance on the Left: reminding white people over and over again that they are white after decades of putting racism into the same moral category as child molestation, asking them to accept their white identity, and then with their new, consciously crafted white identity, expecting them to go against their group's interests. I always knew that gentry liberals sucked at understanding human nature, but damn!

    Replies: @216

    The Ancient Egyptians who built the Pyramids apparently thought only the Pharaoh would go to the afterlife. So there is precedent for a religion that promises absolutely nothing to its followers.

    The left has succeeded in breaking down white college voters, largely because they haven’t actually raised taxes or increased crime. Yet.

    The 20th Century has countless examples of dictatorships which sent millions of men to their deaths.

    Surely the 21st century can send millions of whites into a slow motion suicide.

    The people are bereft of religion, and Woke is providing, it is even burrowing into the established religions.

  34. Woke is a joke. Its just a false premise.

    Getting blacks to be violent is EASY.

    Getting blacks to do something else is near IMPOSSIBLE.

    Lighting this fire will burn for a lot longer than these idiots believe.

    • Replies: @216
    @Dr. Doom

    Woke is a signal of demographic conquest.

    It's a leading indicator, not a trailing indicator.

    Replies: @silviosilver

  35. @Dr. Doom
    Woke is a joke. Its just a false premise.

    Getting blacks to be violent is EASY.

    Getting blacks to do something else is near IMPOSSIBLE.

    Lighting this fire will burn for a lot longer than these idiots believe.

    Replies: @216

    Woke is a signal of demographic conquest.

    It’s a leading indicator, not a trailing indicator.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @216

    It's a leading indicator of demographic capitulation more than of conquest.

  36. @Truth
    @VinnyVette

    Well I'm glad white men and women are still united.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Well I’m glad white men and women are still united.

    Me too.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/816438/attitudes-toward-gender-equality-uk/

  37. Rosie says:
    June 19, 2020 at 5:14 am GMT • 100 Words   
    @216
    @Rosie

    Blaming the elites, or even a specific billionaire, is impersonal.

    Blaming your ex-wife, is personal.

    For the younger guys, blaming the women who won't date you, or worse have an OnlyFans, is personal; also a way to dodge the guilt from porn consumption.

    Scott Adams said that Hillary was like your ex-wife, or the HR manager from work.

    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Rosie, @dfordoom

    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)

    Yep, Whte Americans make fun of supposedly decadent and effeminate Frenchmen from their man cave couches while the latter are:

    Out in the streets,
    Saying FY to the elites.

    A small band of brave White men attempted this not long ago, and were promptly slapped down by the police. I’m not crying any tears for them just now.

  38. @216
    @Dr. Doom

    Woke is a signal of demographic conquest.

    It's a leading indicator, not a trailing indicator.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    It’s a leading indicator of demographic capitulation more than of conquest.

  39. dfordoom says: • Website
    June 19, 2020 at 6:52 am GMT • 200 Words   
    @anarcocapitalist
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I’d like to agree with you, but the people rioting and demanding the police take a knee are the same people tearing down statues of dead white males.

    They won’t go for the banks because no one’s allowed to think about the banks. It’s race-race-race all of the time. Remember what Hillary Clinton asked in 2015-2016, “If we broke up the banks today, how would this end racism?”

    Replies: @dfordoom

    I’d like to agree with you, but the people rioting and demanding the police take a knee are the same people tearing down statues of dead white males.

    Tearing down statues of dead white males actually has nothing to do with race. It’s an attack on the cherished symbols of a system that is screwing people. The fact that they’re dead white males is irrelevant. They’re statues that have great symbolic importance to the people who support the current corrupt failed system.

    The people tearing down statues of dead white males are also not Marxists. Their understanding of political concepts such as Marxism or fascism is non-existent. They’re just people who are angry and they don’t really understand why they’re angry but they know they’re angry.

    The reason they’re going after those statues and the reason they’re spray-painting the hammer and sickle is because doing those things triggers the people who support the current corrupt failed system. It’s a way of hitting back. These are not true political acts because they’re being carried out by people who are politically naïve. They’re simply signs of extreme anger and frustration.

    Not everything is about race. Even blacks are not really angry abut racism. They’re angry for much the same reasons whites are angry. They think that the system is not working.

    • Agree: AaronB, utu
    • Replies: @silviosilver
    @dfordoom


    Even blacks are not really angry abut racism.
     
    So naive to think blacks aren't animated by a sense of anti-white resentment.

    ALL? No. A sizable proportion? Absolutely.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  40. @Not My Economy
    @Intelligent Dasein

    > Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks.

    The banks are supporting this

    Replies: @dfordoom

    > Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks.

    The banks are supporting this

    Because the banks believe that if they pander to Wokeness they can go on screwing us all and no-one will come after them for it.

  41. Lowe says:
    June 19, 2020 at 1:25 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @songbird
    @Lowe

    I'm a big fan of the term "Bioleninism." It's very clever in many ways, and seems to capture a lot of the sociodynamics.

    But I think it is missing at least one or two layers. Bioleninism is a term that can be applied to other spans of history. Even in more modern times, where it could be applied to Soviet sphere, or to Maoist China, I think it had different characteristics. I think we are dealing with a new form of Bioleninism, one supercharged by various characteristics of the West, for the past few decades. The great wealth formed by capitalism - the enormous volume of media produced in the Anglosphere - the countless people being brainwashed and insulated in higher education - the ease of modern communications and travel - and the ease of birth control.

    "Techno-bioleninism" is unfortunately seven syllables, but I really feel technology is a part of it.

    Replies: @Lowe

    Bioleninism is unique to the West, and it is unique historically. The Soviets and Maoists practiced classical Leninism, more or less. They drew supporters from those who had been oppressed by social class.

    The problem with this is that many people who have low social class are just unlucky, not biologically deficient. When you give them power they eventually become independent of you, or their children do. Once they have options, it is hard to keep their loyalty.

    Bioleninism is better because you instead recruit people who are never going to become independent. They are biologically deficient. Without your woke ideology, many blacks, homosexuals, and unattractive women know that they would have very little status. In a natural setting they are, unfortunately, going to have inferior status to healthy people, and there is nothing that can ever change this. So they will be loyal to you forever.

    Bioleninism is the next step beyond classical Marxism and Leninism, and it is superior in terms of its strength and sustainability. That is why it has had such amazing success.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  42. Lowe says:
    June 19, 2020 at 1:51 pm GMT • 300 Words   
    @216
    @Lowe

    See: James, LeBron and the People's Republic of China

    Confronted with an adversary that pushes back, WokeCapital bends the knee.

    We haven't tested the thesis that they would ignore profit if it brought them to the brink of bankruptcy.

    If every Trump voter permanently drops the NFL in the fall, will they change, I think so.

    But we know that most conservatives want to just sit back and grill.

    Replies: @Lowe

    The Chinese do not practice the same political system that we do in the West. It makes sense they could oppose it in many instances. But external opposition is not the same as internal.

    There is no real internal opposition. Almost no conservatives disagree with the fundamental propositions of the woke left. Once you concede civil rights, it’s over. I mean, it was over long before that, when the vote was given to anyone but landed men.

    Conservatives just want to grill, like you said. They cannot be bothered to learn why everything going back decades or centuries was mistaken and inevitably leads to our impoverishment and destruction. They are not going to boycott the NFL.

    Even if they did, I would not be so sure that the NFL would drop woke ideology in the slightest way. Everybody in the social spheres of the owners and their children is a woke commissar. They are the class enemies of their customers. Woke ideology is part of their social status, and holding onto social status is more important than making money.

    Jeff Bezos literally said that if you are a racist, he does not want you as a customer. A racist is just anyone who does not believe in woke ideology, particularly they question the special, nominally oppressed status of the biologically broken foot-soldiers of the Left: the blacks, gays, spinsters, etc. Bezos does not care if he loses money on this, but even if he did it couldn’t be much, because he knows that people will just shut up and toe the line. Anyone who will not shut up and comply, is worth starving out, even if it means losing some money.

  43. @John Achterhof
    @silviosilver

    Predicated on some demand for whatever XYZ is selling, XYZ would have a line of customers a mile long at its doors in appreciation of the bold splash of defiance to the creeping, expropriative, soft-totalitarian woke-mob cancel culture.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Predicated on some demand for whatever XYZ is selling, XYZ would have a line of customers a mile long at its doors in appreciation of the bold splash of defiance to the creeping, expropriative, soft-totalitarian woke-mob cancel culture.

    Wishful thinking.

  44. @216
    @Rosie

    Blaming the elites, or even a specific billionaire, is impersonal.

    Blaming your ex-wife, is personal.

    For the younger guys, blaming the women who won't date you, or worse have an OnlyFans, is personal; also a way to dodge the guilt from porn consumption.

    Scott Adams said that Hillary was like your ex-wife, or the HR manager from work.

    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Rosie, @dfordoom

    Agree wrt to machismo, a lot of men still think that problems have to be solved individually (The American Way) vs a collective action (The French Way)

    Good point.

  45. EmailAsID says:
    June 19, 2020 at 9:16 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @Intelligent Dasein
    A lot of the public outrage over the deaths of George Floyd and this Brooks fellow is not really about them at all. BLM is capitalizing on the public mood shift of course, and Woke Capital is capitalizing on BLM (because, at bottom, Woke Capital is incredibly stupid), but that isn't what it's really about. Nor is it about racial tensions.

    This is about years and years of pent-up frustration with a system that no longer works. The average, law-abiding person today feels like a sucker for playing by the rules; he feels like the powers that be are militating against his little life with an incomprehensible degree of arrogance and callousness, and that he has much more to lose to the system than what he gains by it. The average man not only cannot get ahead, he is one missed payment or doctor's visit or altercation with a careless cop away from total ruin.

    The police are very visible symbols of this broken system. For years we have watched the cops blow away people with impunity, shoot people's dogs, walk around peaceful neighborhoods and schools in combat armor, harass decent citizens for trivial offenses, never face justice for their excessive force, and walk away from it all with the kind of six-figure pensions and cadillac care that Joe Blow can only dream about. There is a seething frustration with all this just under the surface. It cannot articulate itself; it has no verbal or political outlet, so it bursts out in strange ways using words not really its own.

    Looked at in this way, it makes a curious kind of sense that the men whose deaths finally occasioned the long overdue day of reckoning, Floyd and Brooks, have nothing personally commendable about them. It isn't about them at all. It's about ordinary people saying "Screw it!" Opting out is, I believe, the polite terminology.

    An innocent victim could not have generated this sort of outrage. If the cops had gunned down a mother and her baby, for instance, it either would have been dismissed as an accident or it would have been dealt with in the ordinary course of law or it would have been added to the smoldering pile of silent resentment that we all already feel. We already have psychological compartments for dealing with such clear-cut evils. But when the evil is of the diffused, generalized variety that hides within the respectable forms of the cop, the banker, and the CEO, it is difficult to express it because any such expression is, first of all, an admission of weakness. These people don't kill us directly, but they degrade and insult us on a constant basis. They don't come sneaking out of the bushes to beat us on the back of the head and take our wallets, but they do take away our freedom, our dignity, and our manhood. Why is it that so many ordinary people want to stand up and say "I am George Floyd" when such people never would have come within a million miles of the kind of life that he lived? It's because his symbolic value is not in how he lived but in how he died. We are all George Floyd because we all can't breathe. We all have our faces smashed into the ground by The Man and we're freaking sick of it. Nobody knows how to say this, so instead they say "Black Lives Matter."

    Today they come for the cops. Tomorrow they will be coming for the banks. This is all quite deserved and has very little to do with race. Do not confuse the yodel with the avalanche.

    Replies: @anarcocapitalist, @Rosie, @Not My Economy, @PennTothal, @Truth, @AaronB, @EmailAsID

    You state some truths, but your take on the whole is bullshit.

    The average black feels empowered by what has been going on for the past three weeks or so. You are probably too far into Conceptland to notice what’s going on in the real world. What’s going on? A transfer of power from whites to blacks.

    Left anti-whiteism is anti-white first and foremost. Why? Because removing whites from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority and replacing them with non-whites is the goal. Whites are not allowed to speak up except in ways that promote left anti-whiteism and, thus, help non-whites.

    All that is good will flow from the achievement of this goal. The top is to be free of whites and in the vacuum will come the non-whites.

    Ask yourself, ID, what is the end goal of the BLM with respect to white people? What is the role of white people to be culturally, economically, and physically in BLM’s utopia?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @EmailAsID


    Left anti-whiteism is anti-white first and foremost. Why? Because removing whites from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority and replacing them with non-whites is the goal.
     
    People rarely act against their own interests, because when it comes down to it people are naturally pretty selfish.

    Do you really think that the many many white liberals who support BLM actually want to be removed from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority? I don't buy it. And don't tell me it's self-hatred. Liberals do not suffer from self-hatred.

    It seems more likely that it's an attempt to enforce ideological conformity, with race being a minor issue (but a useful stick with which to beat heretics). This is not primarily about race. It's about power, for the elites it's about divide-and-conquer, for liberals in general it's about enforcing conforming to liberal positions on immigration, race, feminism and most of all the LGBT agenda.

    White liberals do not have the slightest intention of doing anything against their own interests. White elites do not have the slightest intention of doing anything against their own interests. Blacks are just being used.

    Replies: @EmailAsID

  46. @Nodwink
    from Mirriam-Webster

    Legal Definition of pandering

    1 : the act or crime of recruiting prostitutes or of arranging a situation for another to practice prostitution — compare pimp entry 2
    2 : the act or crime of selling or distributing visual or print media (as magazines) designed to appeal to the recipient's sexual interest
     
    Man, I could really go for a Starbucks...

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter

    “Man, I could really go for a Starbucks…”

    Really? Have you seen some of the sows they’ve hired in a Starbucks to replace the first wave of Covid19 layoffs who are still busy working the $600.00 a week unemployment benefits bonus? Not that Starbucks was ever like a Hooters to start with, but a lot of these scab gals look like Waffle House rejects.

    Anyway, you brought seedy sex up, so I figured it would be OK to toss in some of my seedy misogyny.

    • Replies: @Nodwink
    @Jim Bob Lassiter

    https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o7TKy3KWDYOA7OUSI/giphy.gif

  47. @dfordoom
    @anarcocapitalist


    I’d like to agree with you, but the people rioting and demanding the police take a knee are the same people tearing down statues of dead white males.
     
    Tearing down statues of dead white males actually has nothing to do with race. It's an attack on the cherished symbols of a system that is screwing people. The fact that they're dead white males is irrelevant. They're statues that have great symbolic importance to the people who support the current corrupt failed system.

    The people tearing down statues of dead white males are also not Marxists. Their understanding of political concepts such as Marxism or fascism is non-existent. They're just people who are angry and they don't really understand why they're angry but they know they're angry.

    The reason they're going after those statues and the reason they're spray-painting the hammer and sickle is because doing those things triggers the people who support the current corrupt failed system. It's a way of hitting back. These are not true political acts because they're being carried out by people who are politically naïve. They're simply signs of extreme anger and frustration.

    Not everything is about race. Even blacks are not really angry abut racism. They're angry for much the same reasons whites are angry. They think that the system is not working.

    Replies: @silviosilver

    Even blacks are not really angry abut racism.

    So naive to think blacks aren’t animated by a sense of anti-white resentment.

    ALL? No. A sizable proportion? Absolutely.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @silviosilver


    So naive to think blacks aren’t animated by a sense of anti-white resentment.

    ALL? No. A sizable proportion? Absolutely.
     
    They're animated by resentment. Everybody is animated by resentment. Everybody who isn't at the top of the heap resents those who are. Resentment is rarely rational. And when you live in a corrupt society in which more and more is given to the haves while the have-nots get less and less you're going to get a lot of resentment.

    Since blacks are disproportionately represented among the have-nots they are likely to be even more resentful. They can easily be manipulated into thinking that the reason they're have-nots is not because the system is crooked but because of racism.

    Resentment is universal. Women who wanted rich handsome Alpha husbands but got ordinary men instead are resentful. They don't consider the possibility that it's their expectations that are at fault. So they can be manipulated by feminists into resenting men.

    Men who can't get girlfriends resent women. They don't consider the possibility that the reason they can't get girlfriends is that they're socially inept soy boy porn addicts. So they can be manipulated by the manosphere into resenting women.

    When you have gross inequalities you get dangerous resentments. The rational solution is to reduce inequalities but the Right won't accept that.

    What we're seeing is not anti-whiteism but resentment about inequalities.
  48. dfordoom says: • Website
    June 20, 2020 at 5:50 am GMT • 200 Words   
    @EmailAsID
    @Intelligent Dasein

    You state some truths, but your take on the whole is bullshit.

    The average black feels empowered by what has been going on for the past three weeks or so. You are probably too far into Conceptland to notice what's going on in the real world. What's going on? A transfer of power from whites to blacks.

    Left anti-whiteism is anti-white first and foremost. Why? Because removing whites from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority and replacing them with non-whites is the goal. Whites are not allowed to speak up except in ways that promote left anti-whiteism and, thus, help non-whites.

    All that is good will flow from the achievement of this goal. The top is to be free of whites and in the vacuum will come the non-whites.

    Ask yourself, ID, what is the end goal of the BLM with respect to white people? What is the role of white people to be culturally, economically, and physically in BLM's utopia?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Left anti-whiteism is anti-white first and foremost. Why? Because removing whites from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority and replacing them with non-whites is the goal.

    People rarely act against their own interests, because when it comes down to it people are naturally pretty selfish.

    Do you really think that the many many white liberals who support BLM actually want to be removed from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority? I don’t buy it. And don’t tell me it’s self-hatred. Liberals do not suffer from self-hatred.

    It seems more likely that it’s an attempt to enforce ideological conformity, with race being a minor issue (but a useful stick with which to beat heretics). This is not primarily about race. It’s about power, for the elites it’s about divide-and-conquer, for liberals in general it’s about enforcing conforming to liberal positions on immigration, race, feminism and most of all the LGBT agenda.

    White liberals do not have the slightest intention of doing anything against their own interests. White elites do not have the slightest intention of doing anything against their own interests. Blacks are just being used.

    • Replies: @EmailAsID
    @dfordoom

    First, short-term pleasure often overrides long-term interests. Look at the way people act. People drink too much and get cirrhosis, they screw too many different people and get STDs or lose their spouses, they eat too much and get fat, the play video games instead of studying for their university exams and fail, they surf the web at work and lose their jobs, AND they support political movements that make them helpless in the future.

    Also, I never mentioned white liberals. What's going on is a small minority of leftists has obtained a great deal of power and, supported by the elites (like you alluded to), they are enforcing ideological conformity on the cowed majority.

    These leftists have a revolutionary outlook and that means they first destroy all that works well today and the old ways. They want to destroy "whiteness" and replace it with "color". They want to remove whites from positions of authority and replace them with POCs. They have made anti-whiteism their selling point and their lodestar.

    You are right about elites wanting power and using blacks. But don't feel bad for the blacks. One can be both a tool and a tool-wielder. Unless, a backlash occurs pretty soon, blacks will move up many rungs on the ladder and benefit at the expense of whites. The ladder itself will soon start breaking down like in The Camp of the Saints, but no one is thinking about that right now.

    What I don't understand is why the elites feel it is necessary to have revolutionary change and why they don't see that they will lose everything they have -- that they will be replaced themselves. ID is probably right -- they are stupid.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  49. dfordoom says: • Website
    June 20, 2020 at 6:04 am GMT • 200 Words   
    @silviosilver
    @dfordoom


    Even blacks are not really angry abut racism.
     
    So naive to think blacks aren't animated by a sense of anti-white resentment.

    ALL? No. A sizable proportion? Absolutely.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    So naive to think blacks aren’t animated by a sense of anti-white resentment.

    ALL? No. A sizable proportion? Absolutely.

    They’re animated by resentment. Everybody is animated by resentment. Everybody who isn’t at the top of the heap resents those who are. Resentment is rarely rational. And when you live in a corrupt society in which more and more is given to the haves while the have-nots get less and less you’re going to get a lot of resentment.

    Since blacks are disproportionately represented among the have-nots they are likely to be even more resentful. They can easily be manipulated into thinking that the reason they’re have-nots is not because the system is crooked but because of racism.

    Resentment is universal. Women who wanted rich handsome Alpha husbands but got ordinary men instead are resentful. They don’t consider the possibility that it’s their expectations that are at fault. So they can be manipulated by feminists into resenting men.

    Men who can’t get girlfriends resent women. They don’t consider the possibility that the reason they can’t get girlfriends is that they’re socially inept soy boy porn addicts. So they can be manipulated by the manosphere into resenting women.

    When you have gross inequalities you get dangerous resentments. The rational solution is to reduce inequalities but the Right won’t accept that.

    What we’re seeing is not anti-whiteism but resentment about inequalities.

  50. @dfordoom
    @EmailAsID


    Left anti-whiteism is anti-white first and foremost. Why? Because removing whites from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority and replacing them with non-whites is the goal.
     
    People rarely act against their own interests, because when it comes down to it people are naturally pretty selfish.

    Do you really think that the many many white liberals who support BLM actually want to be removed from positions of cultural, moral, academic, and financial authority? I don't buy it. And don't tell me it's self-hatred. Liberals do not suffer from self-hatred.

    It seems more likely that it's an attempt to enforce ideological conformity, with race being a minor issue (but a useful stick with which to beat heretics). This is not primarily about race. It's about power, for the elites it's about divide-and-conquer, for liberals in general it's about enforcing conforming to liberal positions on immigration, race, feminism and most of all the LGBT agenda.

    White liberals do not have the slightest intention of doing anything against their own interests. White elites do not have the slightest intention of doing anything against their own interests. Blacks are just being used.

    Replies: @EmailAsID

    First, short-term pleasure often overrides long-term interests. Look at the way people act. People drink too much and get cirrhosis, they screw too many different people and get STDs or lose their spouses, they eat too much and get fat, the play video games instead of studying for their university exams and fail, they surf the web at work and lose their jobs, AND they support political movements that make them helpless in the future.

    Also, I never mentioned white liberals. What’s going on is a small minority of leftists has obtained a great deal of power and, supported by the elites (like you alluded to), they are enforcing ideological conformity on the cowed majority.

    These leftists have a revolutionary outlook and that means they first destroy all that works well today and the old ways. They want to destroy “whiteness” and replace it with “color”. They want to remove whites from positions of authority and replace them with POCs. They have made anti-whiteism their selling point and their lodestar.

    You are right about elites wanting power and using blacks. But don’t feel bad for the blacks. One can be both a tool and a tool-wielder. Unless, a backlash occurs pretty soon, blacks will move up many rungs on the ladder and benefit at the expense of whites. The ladder itself will soon start breaking down like in The Camp of the Saints, but no one is thinking about that right now.

    What I don’t understand is why the elites feel it is necessary to have revolutionary change and why they don’t see that they will lose everything they have — that they will be replaced themselves. ID is probably right — they are stupid.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @EmailAsID


    They want to remove whites from positions of authority and replace them with POCs.
     
    You still haven't explained why white leftists or white liberals or white elites would want to remove themselves from positions of authority. It makes no sense whatsoever and I just don't buy it.

    What I don’t understand is why the elites feel it is necessary to have revolutionary change
     
    Maybe because they don't actually want revolutionary change. They simply want to keep the rest of us divided and demoralised to cement their own power. I don't buy the idea that the elites want revolutionary change. Again, it just doesn't make sense.

    The belief that groups of white people want to remove themselves from power and that the elites want revolutionary change both seem to me to be the product of paranoia and hysteria preventing right-wingers from thinking things through clearly.

    Replies: @EmailAsID

  51. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Nodwink

    "Man, I could really go for a Starbucks…"

    Really? Have you seen some of the sows they've hired in a Starbucks to replace the first wave of Covid19 layoffs who are still busy working the $600.00 a week unemployment benefits bonus? Not that Starbucks was ever like a Hooters to start with, but a lot of these scab gals look like Waffle House rejects.

    Anyway, you brought seedy sex up, so I figured it would be OK to toss in some of my seedy misogyny.

    Replies: @Nodwink

  52. dfordoom says: • Website
    June 20, 2020 at 5:08 pm GMT • 100 Words   
    @EmailAsID
    @dfordoom

    First, short-term pleasure often overrides long-term interests. Look at the way people act. People drink too much and get cirrhosis, they screw too many different people and get STDs or lose their spouses, they eat too much and get fat, the play video games instead of studying for their university exams and fail, they surf the web at work and lose their jobs, AND they support political movements that make them helpless in the future.

    Also, I never mentioned white liberals. What's going on is a small minority of leftists has obtained a great deal of power and, supported by the elites (like you alluded to), they are enforcing ideological conformity on the cowed majority.

    These leftists have a revolutionary outlook and that means they first destroy all that works well today and the old ways. They want to destroy "whiteness" and replace it with "color". They want to remove whites from positions of authority and replace them with POCs. They have made anti-whiteism their selling point and their lodestar.

    You are right about elites wanting power and using blacks. But don't feel bad for the blacks. One can be both a tool and a tool-wielder. Unless, a backlash occurs pretty soon, blacks will move up many rungs on the ladder and benefit at the expense of whites. The ladder itself will soon start breaking down like in The Camp of the Saints, but no one is thinking about that right now.

    What I don't understand is why the elites feel it is necessary to have revolutionary change and why they don't see that they will lose everything they have -- that they will be replaced themselves. ID is probably right -- they are stupid.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    They want to remove whites from positions of authority and replace them with POCs.

    You still haven’t explained why white leftists or white liberals or white elites would want to remove themselves from positions of authority. It makes no sense whatsoever and I just don’t buy it.

    What I don’t understand is why the elites feel it is necessary to have revolutionary change

    Maybe because they don’t actually want revolutionary change. They simply want to keep the rest of us divided and demoralised to cement their own power. I don’t buy the idea that the elites want revolutionary change. Again, it just doesn’t make sense.

    The belief that groups of white people want to remove themselves from power and that the elites want revolutionary change both seem to me to be the product of paranoia and hysteria preventing right-wingers from thinking things through clearly.

    • Replies: @EmailAsID
    @dfordoom


    You still haven’t explained why white leftists or white liberals or white elites would want to remove themselves from positions of authority. It makes no sense whatsoever and I just don’t buy it.
     
    I never mentioned anything about white liberals, white leftists, or white elites.

    But there are extreme white leftists that do want whites removed from positions of authority in general. They think in doing so they will still be part of the leadership of the new society that arises on its ashes.


    Maybe because they don’t actually want revolutionary change. They simply want to keep the rest of us divided and demoralised to cement their own power. I don’t buy the idea that the elites want revolutionary change. Again, it just doesn’t make sense.
     
    The elites may not want revolutionary change, but they sure act like they do. By supporting leftism in any form, they are hurting their bottom lines. By supporting left anti-whiteism, white elites may be endangering their very lives.

    Perhaps these elites are stupid and short-sighted. Their wish to avoid a bit of pain (e.g. bad PR) right now, will lead to a great deal of pain for them later on.


    The belief that groups of white people want to remove themselves from power and that the elites want revolutionary change both seem to me to be the product of paranoia and hysteria preventing right-wingers from thinking things through clearly.
     
    The white people do not want to remove themselves from power. They want to remove whites as a group from power. For themselves they may see a future with even more power.

    There have been aristocrats in the past that have actively supported anti-aristocratic movements. Why?

    Replies: @dfordoom

  53. EmailAsID says:
    June 20, 2020 at 5:47 pm GMT • 300 Words   
    @dfordoom
    @EmailAsID


    They want to remove whites from positions of authority and replace them with POCs.
     
    You still haven't explained why white leftists or white liberals or white elites would want to remove themselves from positions of authority. It makes no sense whatsoever and I just don't buy it.

    What I don’t understand is why the elites feel it is necessary to have revolutionary change
     
    Maybe because they don't actually want revolutionary change. They simply want to keep the rest of us divided and demoralised to cement their own power. I don't buy the idea that the elites want revolutionary change. Again, it just doesn't make sense.

    The belief that groups of white people want to remove themselves from power and that the elites want revolutionary change both seem to me to be the product of paranoia and hysteria preventing right-wingers from thinking things through clearly.

    Replies: @EmailAsID

    You still haven’t explained why white leftists or white liberals or white elites would want to remove themselves from positions of authority. It makes no sense whatsoever and I just don’t buy it.

    I never mentioned anything about white liberals, white leftists, or white elites.

    But there are extreme white leftists that do want whites removed from positions of authority in general. They think in doing so they will still be part of the leadership of the new society that arises on its ashes.

    Maybe because they don’t actually want revolutionary change. They simply want to keep the rest of us divided and demoralised to cement their own power. I don’t buy the idea that the elites want revolutionary change. Again, it just doesn’t make sense.

    The elites may not want revolutionary change, but they sure act like they do. By supporting leftism in any form, they are hurting their bottom lines. By supporting left anti-whiteism, white elites may be endangering their very lives.

    Perhaps these elites are stupid and short-sighted. Their wish to avoid a bit of pain (e.g. bad PR) right now, will lead to a great deal of pain for them later on.

    The belief that groups of white people want to remove themselves from power and that the elites want revolutionary change both seem to me to be the product of paranoia and hysteria preventing right-wingers from thinking things through clearly.

    The white people do not want to remove themselves from power. They want to remove whites as a group from power. For themselves they may see a future with even more power.

    There have been aristocrats in the past that have actively supported anti-aristocratic movements. Why?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @EmailAsID


    But there are extreme white leftists that do want whites removed from positions of authority in general. They think in doing so they will still be part of the leadership of the new society that arises on its ashes.
     
    So you're saying that they want whites removed from power, but they want power to be in the hands of white people like themselves? Which is what I was saying. It's all about ideology, not race. It's about ensuring that positions of power are occupied by people who are politically reliable, regardless of race.

    There's one thing I can assure you of. They will not permit a single white homosexual or white transexual to be removed from a position of power. Because the real power in the Cultural Left is in the hands of the LGBT mob. They control BLM.

    Race is a secondary issue. The big issue is the LGBT agenda.

    Replies: @EmailAsID

  54. @silviosilver
    But would actually happen if a company said something like "We at XYZ Corp reject BLM and ANTIFA violence. We are not a political organization, we are a business focused on delivering/producing the best blah blah blah... for our customers" and refused to pay the BLMgeld?

    It's a bad look for the social media marketing team (probably mostly politically clueless wokesters themselves) and a possible loss of status in their professional circles, but beyond that what?

    Replies: @John Achterhof, @Audacious Epigone

    Is there a corporation in the country as honest as the boy in The Emperor’s New Clothes?

  55. @Altai
    The most extreme example so far though happened last night when the English Premiere League started back up in empty stadiums. Every player and official took a knee before the game and if that wasn't enough, every player had their name replaced on the back of their shirt with 'Black Lives Matter'.

    https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1273301775844626443

    What I love about the clip is the piped in crowd noise. It's a subtle metaphor for something...

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eau27NHWsAMHVV8.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EavmK-pX0AIwRVN.jpg

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    It’s as if everything about modern society is astroturfed.

    Small wonder so many people want to see it all burn.

  56. @Lowe
    The survey just shows how ignorant most people are.

    Those running the corporations are not pandering. They were educated at the same top-tier schools, by the same professors with Leftist bent, and selected by the same admissions committees, for maximal conformism to woke ideology.

    They are not pretending, or playing a self-serving game. They are genuine party commissars, because that is what they were selected to be. They will sacrifice profit immediately, for wokeness, and this is only rational. Profit is just money. Wokeness is power.

    Replies: @216, @Audacious Epigone

    But surely there are a few rogues out there who care more about money than power, aren’t there? Where are they?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Audacious Epigone


    But surely there are a few rogues out there who care more about money than power, aren’t there? Where are they?
     
    Money and power are the same thing. Money brings power and power brings money. Power is the sexy part. But essentially they're the same thing.
  57. dfordoom says: • Website
    June 21, 2020 at 2:59 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @EmailAsID
    @dfordoom


    You still haven’t explained why white leftists or white liberals or white elites would want to remove themselves from positions of authority. It makes no sense whatsoever and I just don’t buy it.
     
    I never mentioned anything about white liberals, white leftists, or white elites.

    But there are extreme white leftists that do want whites removed from positions of authority in general. They think in doing so they will still be part of the leadership of the new society that arises on its ashes.


    Maybe because they don’t actually want revolutionary change. They simply want to keep the rest of us divided and demoralised to cement their own power. I don’t buy the idea that the elites want revolutionary change. Again, it just doesn’t make sense.
     
    The elites may not want revolutionary change, but they sure act like they do. By supporting leftism in any form, they are hurting their bottom lines. By supporting left anti-whiteism, white elites may be endangering their very lives.

    Perhaps these elites are stupid and short-sighted. Their wish to avoid a bit of pain (e.g. bad PR) right now, will lead to a great deal of pain for them later on.


    The belief that groups of white people want to remove themselves from power and that the elites want revolutionary change both seem to me to be the product of paranoia and hysteria preventing right-wingers from thinking things through clearly.
     
    The white people do not want to remove themselves from power. They want to remove whites as a group from power. For themselves they may see a future with even more power.

    There have been aristocrats in the past that have actively supported anti-aristocratic movements. Why?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    But there are extreme white leftists that do want whites removed from positions of authority in general. They think in doing so they will still be part of the leadership of the new society that arises on its ashes.

    So you’re saying that they want whites removed from power, but they want power to be in the hands of white people like themselves? Which is what I was saying. It’s all about ideology, not race. It’s about ensuring that positions of power are occupied by people who are politically reliable, regardless of race.

    There’s one thing I can assure you of. They will not permit a single white homosexual or white transexual to be removed from a position of power. Because the real power in the Cultural Left is in the hands of the LGBT mob. They control BLM.

    Race is a secondary issue. The big issue is the LGBT agenda.

    • Replies: @EmailAsID
    @dfordoom


    So you’re saying that they want whites removed from power, but they want power to be in the hands of white people like themselves? Which is what I was saying. It’s all about ideology, not race. It’s about ensuring that positions of power are occupied by people who are politically reliable, regardless of race.
     
    Leftist blacks use Leftism as a tool in order to reduce the role of whites. Leftist whites want to reduce the role of whites in order to more easily spread Leftism.

    There’s one thing I can assure you of. They will not permit a single white homosexual or white transexual to be removed from a position of power. Because the real power in the Cultural Left is in the hands of the LGBT mob. They control BLM.

    Race is a secondary issue. The big issue is the LGBT agenda.
     

    May these political factions destroy one another!
  58. @Audacious Epigone
    @Lowe

    But surely there are a few rogues out there who care more about money than power, aren't there? Where are they?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    But surely there are a few rogues out there who care more about money than power, aren’t there? Where are they?

    Money and power are the same thing. Money brings power and power brings money. Power is the sexy part. But essentially they’re the same thing.

  59. EmailAsID says:
    June 21, 2020 at 4:04 pm GMT • 200 Words   
    @dfordoom
    @EmailAsID


    But there are extreme white leftists that do want whites removed from positions of authority in general. They think in doing so they will still be part of the leadership of the new society that arises on its ashes.
     
    So you're saying that they want whites removed from power, but they want power to be in the hands of white people like themselves? Which is what I was saying. It's all about ideology, not race. It's about ensuring that positions of power are occupied by people who are politically reliable, regardless of race.

    There's one thing I can assure you of. They will not permit a single white homosexual or white transexual to be removed from a position of power. Because the real power in the Cultural Left is in the hands of the LGBT mob. They control BLM.

    Race is a secondary issue. The big issue is the LGBT agenda.

    Replies: @EmailAsID

    So you’re saying that they want whites removed from power, but they want power to be in the hands of white people like themselves? Which is what I was saying. It’s all about ideology, not race. It’s about ensuring that positions of power are occupied by people who are politically reliable, regardless of race.

    Leftist blacks use Leftism as a tool in order to reduce the role of whites. Leftist whites want to reduce the role of whites in order to more easily spread Leftism.

    There’s one thing I can assure you of. They will not permit a single white homosexual or white transexual to be removed from a position of power. Because the real power in the Cultural Left is in the hands of the LGBT mob. They control BLM.

    Race is a secondary issue. The big issue is the LGBT agenda.

    May these political factions destroy one another!

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