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The following table and graph show per capita* hate crime incidents by state for 2019 as reported by the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program:

State Hate
1) District of Columbia 314.6
2) Washington 71.4
3) New Mexico 61.0
4) Massachusetts 57.3
5) New Jersey 54.6
6) Vermont 52.5
7) Michigan 43.5
8) Oregon 43.1
9) Hawaii 42.1
10) Ohio 40.2
11) Colorado 36.8
12) Kentucky 32.7
13) Arizona 32.7
14) New York 32.2
15) Montana 30.3
16) Kansas 29.9
17) California 25.7
18) Nebraska 25.4
19) North Carolina 24.0
20) North Dakota 23.6
21) South Dakota 23.6
22) Delaware 22.6
23) Connecticut 22.5
24) Indiana 20.6
25) West Virginia 19.7
26) Virginia 19.1
27) Minnesota 18.8
28) Tennessee 17.1
29) Rhode Island 16.1
30) Mississippi 15.9
31) Texas 15.8
32) Alaska 15.1
33) Nevada 14.3
34) Maine 14.1
35) Missouri 13.7
36) Idaho 13.5
37) South Carolina 13.4
38) Wisconsin 12.7
39) New Hampshire 12.2
40) Georgia 11.0
41) Wyoming 9.8
42) Louisiana 7.4
43) Oklahoma 7.1
44) Utah 5.8
45) Illinois 5.4
46) Florida 5.3
47) Pennsylvania 3.3
48) Arkansas 3.2
49) Iowa 3.2
50) Maryland 3.0
41) Alabama 0.0

The nation’s capital–capital of both government and of hate!–is more than five times as hateful as the most hateful state is. And the district thinks it deserves statehood?!

That the bluest place in the country is also the most hateful is not an anomaly, it’s part of a pattern. The correlation between Trump’s support and the hate rate at the state level is an inverse .63. The fewer hate crimes the residents of a state commit, the more likely those residents were to vote for Trump.

Hold the phone! Trump is hate personified. How is this possible? Sure, the most heinous and notorious hate crimes do tend to happen in blue places. But the perps are right wing extremists like the red hat-wearing, noose-wielding polar vortex night travelers of Chicago or the smirksome Catholic high school scalper in DC. If they’re bold enough to strike in inclusive places, though, vulnerable groups must be the targets of relentless torment in MAGAland.

It must be that Bigotville doesn’t record crimes of hate as hate crimes. The cops are bastards everywhere, but they’re doubleplus bastards in flyover country. Thanks to the tireless efforts of social justice advocates in inclusive places, law enforcement there must at least document incidents of hate–even if they cannot be bothered to do anything about stopping them. More hate crime thus indicates lower levels of actual hate. Just as the first step to dismantling racism is for white people to admit how racist they are, the first step in ending hate crimes is having more of them, or reporting more of them, anyway.

Also, the hate crime concept is a serious one. It’s driven by facts, not political motivations. There is nothing arbitrary or subjective about any of it. To insinuate as much is practically a hate crime in itself. The breathless stories about an uptick in incidents still means hate is a bigger problem now than ever before because [unintelligible].

* The program covered 93% of the US population in 2019. Per capita calculations are based on the size of the populations covered, not total state population, so even though not all states have full coverage, the per capita rates as presented provide an apples-to-apples comparison between states.

 
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  1. Clearly the map shows that states with the most race hate paranoia make hate crime accusations at far higher rates than sane states. My own state of Washington comes in at #2 on this insanity meter.

  2. I read some about this. Alabama comes in at zero because, to their credit, they don’t participate in this hate crime bullshit. In general, all of the statistics in this area are completely polluted by politics and ain’t worth shit.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @MattinLA

    Yes, until 2012 or so I clung to the idea that we could have a society in which "equality" in a legal and cultural sense was possible. In other words, a society where the government and the media and people in general took anti-white speech and crime just as seriously as anti-black; anti-maleness just as seriously as anti-femaleness, etc. How how naïve I was. But it's been nine years since I was shaken out of my slumber. And many more people have been awoken more recently. But the vast majority of people are asleep because they want to be asleep. Because the fire alarm going off on the other side of the house doesn't sound that loud, and gosh I just had the most wonderful dream so I'm gonna go back to sleep. In the most severe cases they're wide awake and dragging their own children towards the fire, ready to throw them right in. It's all so tiresome. Hey how 'bout them Cowboys?

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

  3. @MattinLA
    I read some about this. Alabama comes in at zero because, to their credit, they don't participate in this hate crime bullshit. In general, all of the statistics in this area are completely polluted by politics and ain't worth shit.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Yes, until 2012 or so I clung to the idea that we could have a society in which “equality” in a legal and cultural sense was possible. In other words, a society where the government and the media and people in general took anti-white speech and crime just as seriously as anti-black; anti-maleness just as seriously as anti-femaleness, etc. How how naïve I was. But it’s been nine years since I was shaken out of my slumber. And many more people have been awoken more recently. But the vast majority of people are asleep because they want to be asleep. Because the fire alarm going off on the other side of the house doesn’t sound that loud, and gosh I just had the most wonderful dream so I’m gonna go back to sleep. In the most severe cases they’re wide awake and dragging their own children towards the fire, ready to throw them right in. It’s all so tiresome. Hey how ’bout them Cowboys?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @AndrewR

    Whether multiracialism and isonomy are viable long term is a question for which there is much room for doubt. But it definitely could work out better than it does, and media--social and dinosaur--is the primary reason things are as bad as they are.

  4. I was thinking about the definition of a “hate crime” yesterday, and I’m not sure it’s worthy of a separate category.

    Example: Imagine a drug addict high on meth who wanders into a Jewish cemetery at night, and kicks over a few headstones. Some jurisdictions automatically count attacks like this as hate crimes, even though this hypothetical druggie probably didn’t even know where he was, and probably wouldn’t remember a thing about it.

  5. Steve Sailer had a troll post about a ‘Nordic looking’ man punching old Chinese ladies… I’ve been skeptical of the whole surge in Asian hate crimes propaganda/narrative the media is pushing but it would only take a couple of Antifa types posing as ‘white supremacists’ to make it true. You’d simply have to start punching elderly Asian Americans. Heck, in NYC, SF, LA, Seattle etc you could probably find ‘woke’ Asian Americans willing to pose for the camera and get punched so great is the desire of these people to ‘create’ a racist narrative.

    Already the media has elevated a bunch of Chinese prostitutes to sainthood for getting shot to death by a white man. Before this incident no prostitute anywhere, ever was killed seems to be the story line.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @unit472

    The ultimate Orwell moment will be when Antifa tracks down and beats up Andy Ngo, and it is ascribed to anti-Asian white racism and used as an excuse to crack down on Proud Boys.

    , @Marty
    @unit472

    I witnessed a hate crime today. I was making lunch when suddenly someone started vigorously turning my door handle, seemingly trying to force his way in. I looked through the peephole and it was a stringy white guy with long hair who looked like he’d lost his drummer gig. I yelled him off , then called the guy at the security gate - a 55-year old Desi who but for his coloring presents as Clark Kent. The first thing he said was, “what’s he look like, Hispanic?”

  6. I’m guessing DC’s hate crime is not racial (at least not on first order). I suspect it’s almost entirely black on gay. I regularly saw hateful harassment on the subway and it all took that form.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    @Foseti

    Blacks (the majority in Sodom-on-the-Potomac) can per definitionem only hate crime those higher on the victim pole i.e. Jews and trannies.
    Mob assaults and gang rapes of Whites cannot be hate crimes because they are lowest, micro-hating everybody but incapable of being hate crimed against.
    -> Jews are counted as White when they perpetrate but holy when they victimate so their hate record is god-like (yeah, right).
    -> If apples were compared to apples (say, all interracial/sexual/pervert violent crime) the smart money is on blacks accounting for >80%

  7. Hate crime has no basis in reality. It’s a political tool. Like terrorism. Or critical race theory. These stats reveal the prevalence of (just one) manifestation of official bullshit in the various states.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
  8. @unit472
    Steve Sailer had a troll post about a 'Nordic looking' man punching old Chinese ladies... I've been skeptical of the whole surge in Asian hate crimes propaganda/narrative the media is pushing but it would only take a couple of Antifa types posing as 'white supremacists' to make it true. You'd simply have to start punching elderly Asian Americans. Heck, in NYC, SF, LA, Seattle etc you could probably find 'woke' Asian Americans willing to pose for the camera and get punched so great is the desire of these people to 'create' a racist narrative.

    Already the media has elevated a bunch of Chinese prostitutes to sainthood for getting shot to death by a white man. Before this incident no prostitute anywhere, ever was killed seems to be the story line.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Marty

    The ultimate Orwell moment will be when Antifa tracks down and beats up Andy Ngo, and it is ascribed to anti-Asian white racism and used as an excuse to crack down on Proud Boys.

  9. AE forgot the obvious solution: MAGAs are so racist and hateful that minorities can’t live around them. Therefore, the opportunities for hate crimes are much lower in areas with many MAGAs. In blue zones, minorities try to intermingle with whites, put off their guard by the lack of Trump support, but whites being as racist as they are, the hate crimes happen anyway.

  10. In other news, Ahmad Al Aliwi Al-Issa has been charged with 10 counts of hate crime for targeting and killing 10 white people…

    Ahmad Al Aliwi Al-Issa Charged with Hate Crimes

    Just Kidding.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Adam Smith

    A recent poll showed 27% of Americans believing that shooting to be a hate crime. What percentage of those 27% thought it was anti-white/anti-American/anti-Christian perpetrated by a Muslim vs what percentage still think the shooter is a 'white supremacist'? It doesn't say, but I'm afraid to find out.

  11. Off topic, AE must be doing something right. Contrast against this blog’s comments the following by subscribers to The Epoch Times.

    collins is demonrat in disguise/rino. ME repubs are too. murkyowski/AK is a pos too, as is romneymccain.they’re all anti America 1st/anti patriot/anti pro America.

    We all need to do something !!!

    The Republicans and the people need to fight now before it’s too late !
    I hate to say it but it looks like peaceful protest won’t do anything ? Something physical needs to happen ! We need to remove this jerk out of office !!! Fking sleepy joe ! And Kamala hoe ! Will never be my president ! Fk em

    Those commenters are presumably good patriots and valuable Americans. The thoughtful and the talented, after all, include many who do not write especially well. English composition and written expression cannot be every man’s forte! But still … the contrast is stark.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @V. K. Ovelund


    The Epoch Times
     
    What's your interest in the Falun Gong?

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @V. K. Ovelund


    The thoughtful and the talented, after all, include many who do not write especially well.
     
    Only in academia. In the rest of society, people express as they think. Sloppy prose is slopping thinking. Paucity of expression reflects paucity of thought.

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

  12. The nation’s capital–capital of both government and of hate!–is more than five times as hateful as the most hateful state is. And the district thinks it deserves statehood?!

    Ha. I commented thusly on Steven Sailer’s blog: https://www.unz.com/isteve/never-let-a-tiny-sample-size-go-to-waste/#comment-4537686

    I took my family horseback riding the other day in a reddest of red (politically) and whitest of white area. It’s in a county that is something like 98% white and voted for Trump by 30+ points.

    Everyone I ran into, I mean every single person, was pleasant and polite. Nobody called me a virus, no one made a face, not one person said a bad word or made an unkind gesture. Nobody told me to “go home” or ask me where I was “really” from.*

    But I know for certain that if I had driven across the Anacostia River, I would have encountered some racial unpleasantness. I know this, because it’s happened in the past, and long before this pandemic. For those of you who don’t know, Anacostia is 2% white and 95% black.

    *One caveat: I was open-carrying a sidearm while riding. That always seems to invite politeness. 😉

  13. @V. K. Ovelund
    Off topic, AE must be doing something right. Contrast against this blog's comments the following by subscribers to The Epoch Times.

    collins is demonrat in disguise/rino. ME repubs are too. murkyowski/AK is a pos too, as is romneymccain.they’re all anti America 1st/anti patriot/anti pro America.
     

    We all need to do something !!!

    The Republicans and the people need to fight now before it’s too late !
    I hate to say it but it looks like peaceful protest won’t do anything ? Something physical needs to happen ! We need to remove this jerk out of office !!! Fking sleepy joe ! And Kamala hoe ! Will never be my president ! Fk em
     

    Those commenters are presumably good patriots and valuable Americans. The thoughtful and the talented, after all, include many who do not write especially well. English composition and written expression cannot be every man's forte! But still ... the contrast is stark.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Chrisnonymous

    The Epoch Times

    What’s your interest in the Falun Gong?

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    @Twinkie


    What’s your interest in the Falun Gong?
     
    That they're not Jewish. Besides, Roman Balmakov is a funny guy.
  14. @Foseti
    I'm guessing DC's hate crime is not racial (at least not on first order). I suspect it's almost entirely black on gay. I regularly saw hateful harassment on the subway and it all took that form.

    Replies: @nokangaroos

    Blacks (the majority in Sodom-on-the-Potomac) can per definitionem only hate crime those higher on the victim pole i.e. Jews and trannies.
    Mob assaults and gang rapes of Whites cannot be hate crimes because they are lowest, micro-hating everybody but incapable of being hate crimed against.
    -> Jews are counted as White when they perpetrate but holy when they victimate so their hate record is god-like (yeah, right).
    -> If apples were compared to apples (say, all interracial/sexual/pervert violent crime) the smart money is on blacks accounting for >80%

  15. @Twinkie
    @V. K. Ovelund


    The Epoch Times
     
    What's your interest in the Falun Gong?

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

    What’s your interest in the Falun Gong?

    That they’re not Jewish. Besides, Roman Balmakov is a funny guy.

  16. @V. K. Ovelund
    Off topic, AE must be doing something right. Contrast against this blog's comments the following by subscribers to The Epoch Times.

    collins is demonrat in disguise/rino. ME repubs are too. murkyowski/AK is a pos too, as is romneymccain.they’re all anti America 1st/anti patriot/anti pro America.
     

    We all need to do something !!!

    The Republicans and the people need to fight now before it’s too late !
    I hate to say it but it looks like peaceful protest won’t do anything ? Something physical needs to happen ! We need to remove this jerk out of office !!! Fking sleepy joe ! And Kamala hoe ! Will never be my president ! Fk em
     

    Those commenters are presumably good patriots and valuable Americans. The thoughtful and the talented, after all, include many who do not write especially well. English composition and written expression cannot be every man's forte! But still ... the contrast is stark.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Chrisnonymous

    The thoughtful and the talented, after all, include many who do not write especially well.

    Only in academia. In the rest of society, people express as they think. Sloppy prose is slopping thinking. Paucity of expression reflects paucity of thought.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    @Chrisnonymous


    Only in academia. In the rest of society, people express as they think. Sloppy prose is slopping thinking. Paucity of expression reflects paucity of thought.
     
    In this instance, the paucity of expression was my own. You are right. Correction accepted.

    What I meant to say is that not every decent, useful person is inclined to letters. Moreover, too many that are inclined to letters (or, worse, that think they are inclined to letters) fatuously sneer at men who can, instead, say, hang a door or fix a car.

    The writers I quoted should not be proud of how they write.

  17. @Chrisnonymous
    @V. K. Ovelund


    The thoughtful and the talented, after all, include many who do not write especially well.
     
    Only in academia. In the rest of society, people express as they think. Sloppy prose is slopping thinking. Paucity of expression reflects paucity of thought.

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

    Only in academia. In the rest of society, people express as they think. Sloppy prose is slopping thinking. Paucity of expression reflects paucity of thought.

    In this instance, the paucity of expression was my own. You are right. Correction accepted.

    What I meant to say is that not every decent, useful person is inclined to letters. Moreover, too many that are inclined to letters (or, worse, that think they are inclined to letters) fatuously sneer at men who can, instead, say, hang a door or fix a car.

    The writers I quoted should not be proud of how they write.

  18. Even a team of trained writers and editors find it difficult to write so clearly and unambiguously that everybody reading it will understand exactly what the intended message was. Writing unambiguous technical manuals is difficult challenge.

    What ordinary people say is often vague and open to interpretation. This is compounded by the fact that the definition of hate crime is also vague, and keeps morphing.

    There are times when words are the equivalent of punching somebody in the stomach – that is a hate crime. Then there are times when ordinary miscommunication is distorted into a hate crime.

    Victimizing innocent people, using the hate crime laws, is just going to eventually cause a big backlash, which won’t do anybody any good.

    There needs to be a sane middle ground between ignoring assault and arson that targets others, especially when vicious slurs are involved, and witch hunts used as a weapon in the culture wars.

    Ideally we should be seeking justice. Unfortunately, the hate crime laws are often used to commit injustice, and so just stirs the pot of hatred, without healing anything.

    When hate crime laws are only enforced against one group of people, then regardless of what the perpetrator actually said, its an injustice, and just causes more hate.

    ~
    A useful measure of how intense the hatred is in a region would be the number of indigenous women who are murdered, or disappear, compared to size of the local population of indigenous people. The Cascade mountains divide Washington like the iron curtain divided Germany. County boundaries follow the Cascade crest, so separating the statistics wouldn’t be too difficult. Western WA has Seattle and insane wokeism. Eastern WA is a lot like Idaho, but is controlled by the woke side of the state, much like a colony.

    There is a wide range of color in the hate crime map between Washington, Idaho, Montana, and North Dakota. It would be very interesting to see western WA and eastern WA compared to the other 3 states in the percentage of indigenous women murdered/disappeared. All 4 states have a significant population of indigenous people, so the numbers would be statically significant. In particular, Seattle has a significant urban indigenous population.

    It would be very useful to compare those statistics to the hate crime statistics for those states. It would be safe to assume that for every indigenous woman murdered/disappeared that there would be a lot more, less fatal hate crimes.

    ~
    I know of an ethnic cleansing incident in eastern Montana. I also gave a ride to an elderly, homeless indigenous man, who had been beat up and had both of his arms broken near downtown Seattle. So I don’t even have a guess as to where in the northwest the levels of hate are the highest.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    @RogerL

    Your reply interests me because I had not expected any nonprogressive readers to defend even the concept of hate-crime statutes. Are you implying that slurs should be punishable by law?

    To me, it seems obvious that hate-crime statutes serve little purpose but to put a political weapon in the hand of the prosecutor or the judge.


    There needs to be a sane middle ground between ignoring assault and arson that targets others, especially when vicious slurs are involved, and witch hunts used as a weapon in the culture wars.
     
    I am unaware of a single case during the past 40 years in which the application of a hate-crime statute has enhanced justice or made the public safer. Do plain laws against assault and arson not suffice?

    I do not mean to be overly argumentative. I understand that you not against me, yet I would still like to read such answer as you chose to give.

    Replies: @RogerL

  19. @RogerL
    Even a team of trained writers and editors find it difficult to write so clearly and unambiguously that everybody reading it will understand exactly what the intended message was. Writing unambiguous technical manuals is difficult challenge.

    What ordinary people say is often vague and open to interpretation. This is compounded by the fact that the definition of hate crime is also vague, and keeps morphing.

    There are times when words are the equivalent of punching somebody in the stomach - that is a hate crime. Then there are times when ordinary miscommunication is distorted into a hate crime.

    Victimizing innocent people, using the hate crime laws, is just going to eventually cause a big backlash, which won't do anybody any good.

    There needs to be a sane middle ground between ignoring assault and arson that targets others, especially when vicious slurs are involved, and witch hunts used as a weapon in the culture wars.

    Ideally we should be seeking justice. Unfortunately, the hate crime laws are often used to commit injustice, and so just stirs the pot of hatred, without healing anything.

    When hate crime laws are only enforced against one group of people, then regardless of what the perpetrator actually said, its an injustice, and just causes more hate.

    ~
    A useful measure of how intense the hatred is in a region would be the number of indigenous women who are murdered, or disappear, compared to size of the local population of indigenous people. The Cascade mountains divide Washington like the iron curtain divided Germany. County boundaries follow the Cascade crest, so separating the statistics wouldn't be too difficult. Western WA has Seattle and insane wokeism. Eastern WA is a lot like Idaho, but is controlled by the woke side of the state, much like a colony.

    There is a wide range of color in the hate crime map between Washington, Idaho, Montana, and North Dakota. It would be very interesting to see western WA and eastern WA compared to the other 3 states in the percentage of indigenous women murdered/disappeared. All 4 states have a significant population of indigenous people, so the numbers would be statically significant. In particular, Seattle has a significant urban indigenous population.

    It would be very useful to compare those statistics to the hate crime statistics for those states. It would be safe to assume that for every indigenous woman murdered/disappeared that there would be a lot more, less fatal hate crimes.

    ~
    I know of an ethnic cleansing incident in eastern Montana. I also gave a ride to an elderly, homeless indigenous man, who had been beat up and had both of his arms broken near downtown Seattle. So I don't even have a guess as to where in the northwest the levels of hate are the highest.

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

    Your reply interests me because I had not expected any nonprogressive readers to defend even the concept of hate-crime statutes. Are you implying that slurs should be punishable by law?

    To me, it seems obvious that hate-crime statutes serve little purpose but to put a political weapon in the hand of the prosecutor or the judge.

    There needs to be a sane middle ground between ignoring assault and arson that targets others, especially when vicious slurs are involved, and witch hunts used as a weapon in the culture wars.

    I am unaware of a single case during the past 40 years in which the application of a hate-crime statute has enhanced justice or made the public safer. Do plain laws against assault and arson not suffice?

    I do not mean to be overly argumentative. I understand that you not against me, yet I would still like to read such answer as you chose to give.

    • Replies: @RogerL
    @V. K. Ovelund

    I'm working on a reply to your question. In the meantime, I have a question for you, about this statement:


    I am unaware of a single case during the past 40 years in which the application of a hate-crime statute has enhanced justice or made the public safer.
     
    What kinds of things have you seen go wrong in the application of a hate-crime statute?

    You mentioned hate crime laws being hijacked for political purposes. Have you seen other problems?

    In the draft of my reply, I have some comments about the problems with forcing people to do things. After sleeping on it, I think I need to expand that section.

    I appreciate this opportunity to talk thru these issues with a thoughtful person.

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

  20. @unit472
    Steve Sailer had a troll post about a 'Nordic looking' man punching old Chinese ladies... I've been skeptical of the whole surge in Asian hate crimes propaganda/narrative the media is pushing but it would only take a couple of Antifa types posing as 'white supremacists' to make it true. You'd simply have to start punching elderly Asian Americans. Heck, in NYC, SF, LA, Seattle etc you could probably find 'woke' Asian Americans willing to pose for the camera and get punched so great is the desire of these people to 'create' a racist narrative.

    Already the media has elevated a bunch of Chinese prostitutes to sainthood for getting shot to death by a white man. Before this incident no prostitute anywhere, ever was killed seems to be the story line.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Marty

    I witnessed a hate crime today. I was making lunch when suddenly someone started vigorously turning my door handle, seemingly trying to force his way in. I looked through the peephole and it was a stringy white guy with long hair who looked like he’d lost his drummer gig. I yelled him off , then called the guy at the security gate – a 55-year old Desi who but for his coloring presents as Clark Kent. The first thing he said was, “what’s he look like, Hispanic?”

  21. @V. K. Ovelund
    @RogerL

    Your reply interests me because I had not expected any nonprogressive readers to defend even the concept of hate-crime statutes. Are you implying that slurs should be punishable by law?

    To me, it seems obvious that hate-crime statutes serve little purpose but to put a political weapon in the hand of the prosecutor or the judge.


    There needs to be a sane middle ground between ignoring assault and arson that targets others, especially when vicious slurs are involved, and witch hunts used as a weapon in the culture wars.
     
    I am unaware of a single case during the past 40 years in which the application of a hate-crime statute has enhanced justice or made the public safer. Do plain laws against assault and arson not suffice?

    I do not mean to be overly argumentative. I understand that you not against me, yet I would still like to read such answer as you chose to give.

    Replies: @RogerL

    I’m working on a reply to your question. In the meantime, I have a question for you, about this statement:

    I am unaware of a single case during the past 40 years in which the application of a hate-crime statute has enhanced justice or made the public safer.

    What kinds of things have you seen go wrong in the application of a hate-crime statute?

    You mentioned hate crime laws being hijacked for political purposes. Have you seen other problems?

    In the draft of my reply, I have some comments about the problems with forcing people to do things. After sleeping on it, I think I need to expand that section.

    I appreciate this opportunity to talk thru these issues with a thoughtful person.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    @RogerL


    What kinds of things have you seen go wrong in the application of a hate-crime statute?
     
    I have seen a hate-crime statute imprison James Alex Fields, Jr., inflicting an undeserved life sentence for self-defense.

    If you are unfamiliar with the Fields case (or, worse, if all you know about the case is the merciless pack of lies egregiously peddled by leftist media and underhandedly calcified by Wikipedia), then I cannot explain it in a line or two. The state/federal tag-team prosecutorial maneuver that deprived a substantially innocent Fields of his freedom was as complex as it was devious.

    I assume that you have many interests and that Fields does not rank high among them, so I do not suppose that you will go to research the topic now; but unfortunately if you did go to research, most of the exculpatory material has been disappeared from the Internet.

    Of course, I might just be a crank. You must judge, so just remember the name if you wish: James Alex Fields, Jr. One suspects that the hate-crime scandal that has imprisoned Fields will explode into notoriety at some future date. When it does, you'll remember that you heard it first here.

    Meanwhile, you have asked what I have seen go wrong, but just as significant is that I have seen so little go right. The very concept of hate crime is ill defined. If a robber knifes me and makes off with my wallet, after which I learn that mere greed rather than racial animus motivated the robber, I am not much mollified. One would prefer that the court confine its attention to the facts and the law without detouring into ill-advised attempts to read the defendant's mind.

  22. @RogerL
    @V. K. Ovelund

    I'm working on a reply to your question. In the meantime, I have a question for you, about this statement:


    I am unaware of a single case during the past 40 years in which the application of a hate-crime statute has enhanced justice or made the public safer.
     
    What kinds of things have you seen go wrong in the application of a hate-crime statute?

    You mentioned hate crime laws being hijacked for political purposes. Have you seen other problems?

    In the draft of my reply, I have some comments about the problems with forcing people to do things. After sleeping on it, I think I need to expand that section.

    I appreciate this opportunity to talk thru these issues with a thoughtful person.

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

    What kinds of things have you seen go wrong in the application of a hate-crime statute?

    I have seen a hate-crime statute imprison James Alex Fields, Jr., inflicting an undeserved life sentence for self-defense.

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    If you are unfamiliar with the Fields case (or, worse, if all you know about the case is the merciless pack of lies egregiously peddled by leftist media and underhandedly calcified by Wikipedia), then I cannot explain it in a line or two. The state/federal tag-team prosecutorial maneuver that deprived a substantially innocent Fields of his freedom was as complex as it was devious.

    I assume that you have many interests and that Fields does not rank high among them, so I do not suppose that you will go to research the topic now; but unfortunately if you did go to research, most of the exculpatory material has been disappeared from the Internet.

    Of course, I might just be a crank. You must judge, so just remember the name if you wish: James Alex Fields, Jr. One suspects that the hate-crime scandal that has imprisoned Fields will explode into notoriety at some future date. When it does, you’ll remember that you heard it first here.

    Meanwhile, you have asked what I have seen go wrong, but just as significant is that I have seen so little go right. The very concept of hate crime is ill defined. If a robber knifes me and makes off with my wallet, after which I learn that mere greed rather than racial animus motivated the robber, I am not much mollified. One would prefer that the court confine its attention to the facts and the law without detouring into ill-advised attempts to read the defendant’s mind.

  23. @AndrewR
    @MattinLA

    Yes, until 2012 or so I clung to the idea that we could have a society in which "equality" in a legal and cultural sense was possible. In other words, a society where the government and the media and people in general took anti-white speech and crime just as seriously as anti-black; anti-maleness just as seriously as anti-femaleness, etc. How how naïve I was. But it's been nine years since I was shaken out of my slumber. And many more people have been awoken more recently. But the vast majority of people are asleep because they want to be asleep. Because the fire alarm going off on the other side of the house doesn't sound that loud, and gosh I just had the most wonderful dream so I'm gonna go back to sleep. In the most severe cases they're wide awake and dragging their own children towards the fire, ready to throw them right in. It's all so tiresome. Hey how 'bout them Cowboys?

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Whether multiracialism and isonomy are viable long term is a question for which there is much room for doubt. But it definitely could work out better than it does, and media–social and dinosaur–is the primary reason things are as bad as they are.

  24. @Adam Smith
    In other news, Ahmad Al Aliwi Al-Issa has been charged with 10 counts of hate crime for targeting and killing 10 white people...

    Ahmad Al Aliwi Al-Issa Charged with Hate Crimes

    Just Kidding.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    A recent poll showed 27% of Americans believing that shooting to be a hate crime. What percentage of those 27% thought it was anti-white/anti-American/anti-Christian perpetrated by a Muslim vs what percentage still think the shooter is a ‘white supremacist’? It doesn’t say, but I’m afraid to find out.

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