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Tapping the GoToQuiz.com database again, the following graph shows two-way partisan affiliation among those in the US under the age of 18, by race and by sex:


The smallest sample comes from American Indians, but even it is a respectable 902. Quantity isn’t a problem. As mentioned previously, though, quality could be.

The gender gap is huge. Minor males split 61.6%-38.4% for the GOP while minor females split an almost mirror 39.6%-60.4% for Democrats. Whites and males, and especially white males, are overrepresented in the survey results (recall the respondent pool is self-selected and self-identified), so while at first blush this may appear to suggest that the generational cohort is evenly split along partisan lines, the real result is something more like Republican support in the low forties and Democrat support in the high fifties, something like 43%-57% in the Democrats’ favor.

The survey has three distinct categories for “Asian”, “Indian”, and “American Indian”. Epicanthic eyefolds, dots, and feathers, I respectively–and respectfully!–assume. To avoid the confusion of using the word “Indian” for two different racial categories in the graph, “subcontinental” is used instead.

Among adults in the database, the stronger Democrat skew among South Asians than among East Asians is present as well, very similar to the results presented above for those under the age of 18. East Asians break about 2-to-1 Democrat while South Asians do so at a rate of 4-to-1.

 
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  1. South Asians do so at a rate of 4-to-1.

    Wow, good thing Trump wants to increase the number of H1-Bs in the country and a “merit based immigration system” taking in the “most immigrants ever”! They are natural conservatives; if only more Indians come in they will start voting GOP *en masse*.

    Making America Great Again, one Indian at a time.

    So ironic that letting in Hispanics is actually a better strategy for the GOP than letting in Indians and other Asians.

    • Replies: @Endgame Napoleon
    , @SFG
  2. eah says:

    Minor males split 61.6%-38.4% for the GOP

    I hope their actual sympathies lie more with the Alt-Right rather than with the utterly, hopelessly fucking useless GOP.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  3. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    If the Grand Old Party keeps undercutting the wages of white, non-welfare-eligible, non-womb-productive, mostly middle aged and older likely voters with wave after wave of legal & illegal immigrants who do not need higher wages due to their pay from Uncle Sam for womb-productive sex—their free EBT food, reduced-cost rent, monthly cash assistance, electricity assistance and up to $6,431 in refundable child tax credit cash for US-born kiddos—they will lose most of the extra helping of white voters that turned the election for Trump.

    They already have, actually, as we saw in the mid-term elections.

    The Republicans also got some college-educated cross-over voters, particularly those who jumped through a million educational hoops to get a degree or certifications in a difficult-to-master tech field only to see Donald J. Trump let in even more H1-B visas to take the jobs, not just the top jobs but also the mid-level jobs in things like IT.

    Corporations make the argument that Third World—mostly rural—countries are turning out the best-in-the-world grads, even as people in developing countries do ridiculous things to get into US universities.

    Then politicians let in hordes of foreign tech workers to take the mid-level IT jobs. Best-in-the-world grads would take the top jobs.

    Elites are putting down US college graduates in the same way that they put down US blue-collar workers for decades, as they shipped millions of jobs overseas and replaced them with welfare-eligible migrants from Latin America—immigrants with only an elementary school education. They were so much more qualified—NOT. They were cheaper due to the pay from government for womb-productive sex that covered their major household bills.

    All of that degrading verbal absuse is hurled by Elites to keep Americans in a dejected, stoical mode, ready to accept anything that elites throw at them to keep their DNA-dynasty lifestyles intact.

    It is all done just so that the corporate-owned US Congress can reward their corporate donors, not just the trendy SV tech companies but all kinds of companies with IT and CS employees, that can save a buck on labor while paying their CEOs 300 million per year.

    Trump also gave any womb-productive H1-B visas a doubled, non-refundable child tax credit in the thousands, while the rest of America (other than the rich employers of legal / illegal immigrants) got a kick-in-the-teeth tax cut.

  4. SFG says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Some of the paler Hispanics may identify as white. The rules are looser down there, and it’s considered aspirational. A few probably are. Got a plan to poach the population of Argentina?

    • Replies: @216
  5. What in tarnation! They actually made a seperate class for us South Asians. That’s new

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  6. @Endgame Napoleon

    One silver lining in the ‘new’ Trump/GOP fusion immigration approach is that the tilt towards ‘merit’ immigration will make a lot of white collar natives realize that cheering on the country being turned into the world’s hotel isn’t just empty virtue-signalling anymore–it comes with real costs to theirs and their children’s prospects.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  7. @BengaliCanadianDude

    It is, and it’s appreciated. A category that lumps in more than half the world’s population is… suboptimal.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  8. @Audacious Epigone

    Canada has this approach. Points system for the skilled immigrants. The skilled immigrants come in and compete directly with the white collar class for jobs. The white working class gets rich off of the economic spoils – landscaping, construction, farming etc. are constantly growing sectors that are done almost exclusively by whites. Some of the richest people around are plumbers, electricians, landscapers, contractors etc who started their own businesses. Nearly all are white. While this is still bad for racial demographics, in practice it has allowed Canada to stay equal and with much more social harmony. (Trudeau is starting to screw this up, but that’s another story).

    The white, white collar class is also in a better position to compete with white collar immigrants. H1-B seems to be a particularly effed up situation, but in general, a white college grad has more options when competing with an Indian college grad, as opposed to a white roofer vs. an illegal alien roofer from Mexico. There are little complaints from the white collar class in Canada even as immigrants are pouring in – it seems to have worked so far. Trudeau is badly screwing up that balance too, though, so our peace might not last forever.

    The USA upper class whites seem to be particularly venomous in their contempt for lower class whites, and really any kind of whites. So while I hate to sell out brothers of my own race, these people do need to be taught a lesson to figure things out. And, if they are able to compete the way large numbers of whites have been able to in Canada, then good for them.

    But I did notice this in Trump’s tone at his recent rallies – he’s basically abandoned the upper middle class whites and will be focusing exclusively on the working class from now on. White solidarity does not exist; class solidarity is what matters apparently.

  9. OT, but another interesting thought.

    Has anybody noticed that the anti-abortion bills are **finally** coming through now that the non-white birth rate has plummeted?

    I see abortion as immoral too, but we have to be realistic. Blacks have the overwhelming majority of abortions, especially in a place like Georgia. By restricting abortion, you’re likely to see an explosion of the black population. Whites usually use birth control, and if they do have an unwanted pregnancy they will find a way to abort whether it’s legal in-state or not. In the ethno-state, abortions should be severely restricted. But right now, it benefits the white population by having it as white open and legal as possible.

    Anyways, I just find it interesting that the anti-abortion bills never really gained steam despite huge Christian favour for them. Now, the non-white birth rate (especially Hispanics) is dropping like a rock, while Asian fertility is below whites.

    Just seems fishy, like tptb are now allowing abortions to be banned as a way to increase their non-white numbers.

  10. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    This is true. Trudeau is messing things up for everyone. Even nonwhite nonblacks are taking an issue with his posturing and virtue signalling with regards to the illegal border crossers and the refugees. It needs to stop. It really does.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  11. Anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    OT Grab-bag: Demography is destiny?

    1. Two million non-Hispanic whites have fled California since 1990. California now has fewer whites than it did in 1980 even though the state’s population is much larger.

    2. Non-Hispanic whites accounted for a mere 27% of live births in California in 2017 while Asians accounted for 15%; Hispanics accounted for an incredible 47% averaged since 2013. These two facts probably explain our Ruling Class’s subconscious desire for unlimited immigration, especially skilled immigration from Asia: they likely want to prevent California from crossing some threshold where it’s basically a Mexican province by diluting out poor Hispanics with better educated, less socialist demographics as best as possible.

    Could we cut a deal to repeal birthright citizenship in exchange for allowing California skilled immigration + requiring them to stay there?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California

    3. The California counties won by Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary skew whiter and more northern, partly overlapping with the areas Trump later won. Hillary won the more Hispanic south … even though the socialist policies of Sanders would obviously have been better for that demographic. This is a trend we saw with the Southern black vote as well, although far more lopsided.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_California_Democratic_primary

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_California

    4. Donald Trump won about as many popular votes in the state of California as Ronald Reagan did back when the state had ~800k – 1M more non-Hispanic whites. In fact, Trump won almost exactly the same number of votes as Reagan did – probably to within about 2 or 3%. This probably indicates that the GOP can NEVER win California again under nearly any circumstance, even with an insane white turnout.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_United_States_presidential_election_in_California

    5. Amusingly (or not), Wikipedia now sometimes uses the term “European American” when reporting some demographic data. The term seems to be catching on.

    6. The share of non-Hispanic whites in California in 1980 is about the same as the share of non-Hispanic whites in Alabama now. California flipped to a non-American entity in a surprisingly short period of time. In the near future, Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida will similarly slip away.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  12. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    “One silver lining in the ‘new’ Trump/GOP fusion immigration approach is that the tilt towards ‘merit’ immigration will make a lot of white collar natives realize that cheering on the country being turned into the world’s hotel isn’t just empty virtue-signalling anymore–it comes with real costs to theirs and their children’s prospects.”

    I’m not so sure about that after going through California’s demographics. Hispanics now average an incredible 47% of live births in that state; whites and Asians account for less than that combined. I think the Ruling Class would very much prefer mass skilled immigration in an effort to keep the more socialist, less educated Hispanics of that state from gaining control. A few educated whites might get screwed over in the process, but I’m not so sure it will deter the policy makers. If anything, it might win Trump a couple of points on the white vote in California in 2020 while he, ironically, simultaneously loses the state by an even larger margin than he did in 2016.

    This might also explain the Ruling Class’s fear and loathing of a border wall: they are afraid of causing a backlash with Hispanic voters which would carry whites and Asians out of power in California and turn the state into a mismanaged Venezuela sequel. It might also explain that state’s growing poz: they are offering as many crumbs from the table as possible to every conceivable marginalized group in order to stave off future under-class backlash against their rule. PPS. Might also explain California’s black movie fetish, despite blacks being only 5% of live births there: they don’t want to think about their Hispanic demographic fears, so they bury them with the nation’s other large non-white demographic, blacks.

  13. @BengaliCanadianDude

    He’s a fucking idiot. He makes me embarrassed to be Canadian and he also gives a horrible impression of white people.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  14. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    he also gives a horrible impression of white people.

    As if he’s the only one. Seniour wasn’t too bad though…Average.

    Why exactly are the Zoomalis being dropped off in Raddissons? What do we get from this?

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  15. @BengaliCanadianDude

    Senior was the worst thing to ever happen to this country. Introduction of “multiculturalism”, decriminalization of homosexuality, War Measures Act. Fuck him.

    Believe it or not, before Trudump Sr. Canada was 96% white. Old-stock only, basically. A few wops and some Ukes but they were forcefully assimilated. Best country in the world before Trudump Sr.

    Why exactly are the Zoomalis being dropped off in Raddissons?

    Diversity is our strength 🙂

    What do we get from this?

    Elites are tired of paying white working class guys to renovate their houses and mow the lawn. They’re hoping to copy the USA model and bring in low skill labour. Unfortunately they are in for a rude awakening when they discover that the Arab underclass would prefer to sell drugs, and the Zoomalis don’t like to do much of… anything.

    In all seriousness though, it’s a complete disgrace. I don’t know what on earth Trudump Jr. is thinking.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  16. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    War Measures Act. Fuck him

    Why do you think I kinda like this dude? He kept you and the rest of your FLQ brother in arms in check. The only way to do things. Still mad 50 years later? It was all good and worth it, and it was in reaction to what you Frenchies were doing with your dirty guerilla tactics and your filthy insurrection against the state. What did you expect? Every action has a reaction. And this was deserved.

    best country in the world before Trudump Sr.

    It still is, without a doubt. Best in the world.

    decriminalization of homosexuality

    Yeah that was pretty bad

    Introduction of “multiculturalism”

    Was going to happen anyways, people didn’t care about the origin of the Immigrants anymore.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  17. @BengaliCanadianDude

    >Implying I’m a separatist, or that I support the commie FLQ.

    Bruh. The FLQ was a literal communist party. Pretty sure they’re still living in Cuba.

    Franco-Ontarians are its own thing anyways.

    It was all good and worth it

    An overreaction by a paranoid lunatic. Ended up making no difference to the situation.

    Was going to happen anyways

    It’s unfortunately the white punishment for straying from the Church and having a low birth rate. If we were still heavily religious, spiritually vigorous, and having a TFR of 2.5, I guarantee there would be no immigrants coming.

    people didn’t care about the origin of the Immigrants anymore.

    Only in Gay Anglo Toronto. Obviously most of the province still cares, and Quebec/Maritimes feels very strongly to this day.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  18. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Quebec doesn’t get to say anything. They are subsidized by me. They can kiss my brown ass for all I care. That’s what they do anyways 😉

    And it was not “only” in Toronto, it was elsewhere as well.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  19. @BengaliCanadianDude

    Quebec doesn’t get to say anything.

    Muslims will be banned from wearing any kind of religious clothing in the public service jobs. They will also not be allowed to receive government services while in religious garb.

    They are subsidized by me

    That’s because you’re a cuck

    They can kiss my brown ass for all I care.

    Get ready for thousands of Muslims to be moving to Ontario (specifically, Toronto). Again, get cucked.

    And it was not “only” in Toronto, it was elsewhere as well.

    Trudump has been really quiet about the “rural immigrant pilot program” since he launched it. Haven’t heard anything in months. Allowing immigrants to rural, non-northern areas is unacceptable.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
  20. b…b..bBut Toronto is based right!??

    Toronto is now 48% white and the globohomo intensifies and gets worse. Where are all these supposedly socially conservative immigrants voting in a non-retarded guy?

    I like the one comment: I stay north of HWY 7 at all times.

    Good advice.

  21. @Endgame Napoleon

    The main problem is that whites are killing their babies, i.e. abortion at a disproportionate way. When I was in the Service, we had a fellow who had four kids. The group made jokes about him constantly UNTIL I stop it. He was making it alright, and they had no business just because they were cowards and brain washed into thinking that having kids was a horrible thing. I can’t figure out why whites are afraid of having children, I really can’t. If you go back in history, during the days of the old west, when Americans really had guts, people had it very difficult and yet they had kids in abundance. Now a day, if you have three or four kids, the world will condemn you constantly. So what happens? I see invaders all over the town; just because whites are too chicken sh*t to comprehend that children are a blessing. Most people ‘career oriented” prefer their jobs, new vehicle, etc. instead of having kids. I see grouchy older women (the feminist type) looking at my lady and I walking with my child, and their look seems to condemn us just because we chose to have children. I can care less about a new SUV, or new Home in a new development. The joy of having descendants beat those material things every day. May God have mercy on our current white population in America. Brain washed, hated by the new arrivals, and without vision and leaderless! Even churchianity has abandoned you whites, wake up.
    There is hope, though. I once went to the Phoenix Zoo, and saw in delight couples with three and four children! They were Mormons by the way; so at the end, Mormons might save the whites in America.

  22. Minor males split 61.6%-38.4% for the GOP while minor females split an almost mirror 39.6%-60.4% for Democrats.

     

    Ironically, teenage girls may have the least socially permissive attitude among the not-elderly in America. Look at the Despacito English translation video on YouTube, there’s an endless string of comments from schoolgirls disgusted at the sexual content of that Spanish song. A typical highly upvoted comment under an Ed Sheeran song would be:

    Nudity 0%
    Swearing 0%
    Talent… 100%

    Depraved songs like Anaconda (remember that rap about cocaine and big butts from 5 years ago?) after a period of hype have vanished from public memory. Instagram (THE schoolgirl demographic social medium along with Snapchat) bans nudity altogether and Tumblr has joined in, purging adult content when they saw it become passé. A heavily edited biography of Freddie Mercury, where the evil gay lover seduces the romantic artist away from his pure-hearted fiancée and ruins his life, became a sudden hit among the listeners of Ariana Grande and K-pop.

    But of course the girls will have none of the right-wing hate* towards the people they directly interact with online or IRL, hear their voices and value them as members of their social circle. I live near a high school and see multiracial teen companies walking about all the time. Would you really expect them to give up their friends, or say their favorite mixed-race beauty bloggers to be beaten and killed by white douche bros? And then subjugate themselves to said douche bros as patriarchal wives, without even the right not to be forcibly impregnated (remember all the alt-right rants about birth control?) Lol.

    *No denying it, it’s real and visible as someone on your own side says: http://theanti-puritan.blogspot.com/2018/05/life-at-center-of-every-form-of-hate.html

    Reactionaries hate me for being degenerate. One of them once said to me, to my face, that he would put my sister in a concentration camp for her past opioid addiction. (…)

    You should support the Nationalist revolution/restoration of monarchy. Yeah, we will genocide your gay ass (and your sister) the instant we gain a permanent hold on power, but don’t you hate the Jews? (…)

    LGBT people know that right wingers secretly hate them. That is why they support the immigration of violent homophobic Muslims, abortion, and everything else. The same can be said of feminists.

    Democracy forces you to accept a number of evils so you can vote for the one thing you care about. They care about not being hunted down by Christian terrorist militias. If you are a reactionary you cannot honestly say that you would not sanction the hunting of gays. I know what you guys say — I was there when you wrote it. I might have even written it myself. Your inability to control your own hate will guarantee that you always provide a tremendous incentive for women, gays, and minorities to oppose you.

    • Replies: @216
    , @Feryl
  23. There’s an axis label missing on your chart.
    66.8% of White Males are What?

  24. I was driving through Bangalore, TX the other day … OK, the locals call it Las Colinas … just up the road from Dahomey, TX, listening to Mexican and Korean radio, and it occurred to me that it will not come as a surprise when TX votes solidly Dem in the near future.

  25. Passer by says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Don’t brag about the canadian immigration system. The average IQ of the migrants (including 18 % white) is 94 according to PIAAC data. PISA data also shows that Canada is getting dumber.

    It is also a dual track system, it includes importing refugees (50k in 2017). The IQ of refugees is around 85. Then there is family reunification, which according to a study i saw again brings mostly low IQ people in Canada.

    Then guess who are the people with most children. No, it is not the orientals. It is the brown and black people. So Canada will not be another China. Too few children among them. It will be brown country.

    Whites are estimated to be 20 percent of the canadian population by the end of the century.

    Even college educated canadian born non-whites in Canada earn 14 % less than similar whites and have lower employment rate. Clearly you are being replaced by lower quality people and Canada will decline due to that.

    Australia gets higher quality people and there is canadian study on that. Of course whites will become a minority there too, although at a bit slower rate than in Canada.

  26. @Passer by

    Link these sities. Also, thr Indians that come to Canada are of ghe skilled kind

  27. 216 says:

    O/T

    Canada, polls, contd.

    http://www.nanos.co/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Political-Package-2019-05-10-FR.pdf

    Nanos, for whatever reason, tends to be more favorable results for the Liberal Party. This is the lowest Trudeau has polled in this cycle.

    The Greens are polling at a record high, and the Cons are not polling high enough to ensure a majority government. Could a minority government lead to a change to Proportional Representation?

    The bottom poll shows a revealed preference of around 10% for Bernier’s harder-right party, but no indication that he’s managed to improve his chances. Around 20% answer positively to Bernier “having the qualities of a good leader”.

    No additional demographic breakdowns.

    • Replies: @216
  28. 216 says:
    @216

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanaimo—Ladysmith

    The Greens also won a by-election last week, which being Canada I was entirely clueless about this happening.

    This riding went 40% for the conservatives in 2011.

    For British Columbia, it’s unusual in not being full of East Kekistanis.

  29. 216 says:
    @Toronto Russian

    But of course the girls will have none of the right-wing hate* towards the people they directly interact with online or IRL, hear their voices and value them as members of their social circle. I live near a high school and see multiracial teen companies walking about all the time. Would you really expect them to give up their friends, or say their favorite mixed-race beauty bloggers to be beaten and killed by white douche bros? And then subjugate themselves to said douche bros as patriarchal wives, without even the right not to be forcibly impregnated (remember all the alt-right rants about birth control?) Lol.

    We tend not to believe in this “inevitable march of progress”.

    You correctly note the barely-concealed desire for raw violence that exists in our movements.

    But you don’t recognize that without a political solution allowing autonomy for our now-despised culture, violence is inevitable when the economy cracks.

  30. 216 says:
    @SFG

    It’s likelier that we get exiled to Argentina.

  31. @eah

    I can’t tell if this Simonson guy is being sarcastic or not, EAH. I need some kind of tweet-terpreter. Even though I’d completely agree with VDare that interest laws are not THE most pressing topic right now, a usury law IS pretty damn stupid. You want to got to the title loan place because you are an irresponsible moron, have at it! It’s only a problem when your country is Socialist and the rest have to pay for stupidity.

    Interest is the price of money. It’d be really nice to see a free market in that, but that’d mean the elimination of the FED. I think most of the VDare writers would have no problem with that. I know Mr. Brimelow has respect for Ron Paul, but Conservative, Inc, not so much, and I can’t blame him.

    • Replies: @216
    , @eah
  32. @Audacious Epigone

    Suboptimal is right. But, “Subcontinental” SUCKS. I hate that term with a passion. I know I’m just one guy, but is there any way you could change this, A.E., for the next time? (It sounds like you picked the legend terms, as you stated the ones that the data came with.)

    I don’t think you’d want dot-Indian, as just being a little too personal, and they don’t all have dots, just like our FBIs (Full Blooded Indians) don’t all have feathers. Is “Asian Indians” too long? It’s the same number of syllables as “subcontinentals” (how about “incontinentals” for the ones still using the outside as one big toilet?)

    OK, look, here’s my beef from Peak Stupidity’s post “Handy pocket-sized PC from PS Legal Eagle”: Look, I LUV LUV LUV Geography, so don’t get me wrong, but I just think these geographical names for ethnic/racial groups are bland, boring 1984 stuff. I’ll just paste in the new pocket-sized PC card here – see what y’all think:

    ************************************************************
    “Indian” is out – “Subcontinental” is in (like there aren’t lots of pieces of continents around, say the Yucatan and Iberian peninsulas).

    “Oriental” is out – “Northeastern Asian”, “Southeastern Asian”, “West-by-Northwestern” Asian, “38th Parallel Asian”, and “Arctic Circular Asian” are in.

    “Beaner”, “Greaser”, “Chicano” and “Latino” are out – “Mexican”, “Central American”, and “Yucatan Peninsularian” are in.

    “Negro” and variations thereof, along with “dude from some shithole” , are out – “[cardinal direction] African” is in.

    “Towel Head”, “Rag Head”, basically “[any type of woven fabric] – head” are out – “MENA”, MENAing Middle East North African, is in.

    “Big Samoan Fat Fuck” is out – “SPIFF”, meaning “Southwestern Pacific Island Fat Fuck” is in.
    ************************************************************

  33. 216 says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Even though I’d completely agree with VDare that interest laws are not THE most pressing topic right now, a usury law IS pretty damn stupid. You want to got to the title loan place because you are an irresponsible moron, have at it! It’s only a problem when your country is Socialist and the rest have to pay for stupidity.

    We are not going back to 19th century Social Darwinism, not in a society of mass literacy and female suffrage.

    Loan sharks need to be shut down. If the underclass cannot manage their finances, we should set up a custodial process.

    Banks should be structurally dismantled and replaced with credit unions.

  34. @216

    “We need to do this … we need to do that … blah blah…. ” Who nominated you for Federal Nanny, #216? I didn’t even know there was such an office. This place is crawling with Socialists …

  35. @Passer by

    Re: refugees, yeah as I said Trudeau is fucking things up badly.

    And I agree with everything you said. I’m not pro immigration. I’m just saying, that between importing low skill Mexicans, or “high skill” Asians, the latter is vastly preferable. That’s probably the calculation Trump is making.

  36. eah says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    sarcastic or not

    I think not — credit card debt/carried balances are quite high, as is the interest rate on those balances — I think the average APR is around 16%, but since that’s an average of course some cards are higher — with a decent credit score, you can often get a personal loan for about half that rate — but I think the target is CC debt — so lowering the CC APR and proposing student loan forgiveness or radical restructuring will be vote-getting issues, like it or not — and the Stupid Party is likely to oppose both, because ‘muh principals’ — that’s the point.

    link

    …the average household has around $8,161 in revolving debt, approximately $6,577 of which is credit card debt. With nearly 248 million Americans over the age of 18, that comes out to a total of $3,353 in credit card balances per US adult.

  37. Feryl says:
    @Anon

    “4. Donald Trump won about as many popular votes in the state of California as Ronald Reagan did back when the state had ~800k – 1M more non-Hispanic whites. In fact, Trump won almost exactly the same number of votes as Reagan did – probably to within about 2 or 3%. This probably indicates that the GOP can NEVER win California again under nearly any circumstance, even with an insane white turnout.”

    A whole lot of good it did voting for Reagan and GHW Bush, who adamantly trashed the political culture of the demographically stable 1930’s-1960’s, with the egalitarian age being firmly over by 1990. Would voting for Carter, Mondale, or Dukakis* been any worse in the long run? But of course, wealthy (and aspirationally wealthy) Silents and Boomers never gave a shit about anything besides “get the damn gubmint out of everything” (including border control, financial regulation, media censorship, gambling restrictions, regulation of violent sports, regulation of dog ownership, etc.) besides street crime control

    *Mondale and Dukakis were New Dealers who would’ve prioritized organized labor, not greedy business owners, so we probably would’ve had lower immigration levels; besides, manufacturers, construction companies, land-scaping companies, agriculture etc. are all major GOP voters/donors,aligned with CoC type lobbyists, so the New Deal Democrats never had much of a problem just ignoring the conservative sector’s whining that not enough cheap and naive labor was arriving. I mean, after FDR won election 4 times even the GOP started ignoring the skin-flint traitor business owner class who stewed for 5 decades (1930-1980) about not getting the infusion of labor they always covet..

  38. Feryl says:
    @Passer by

    Whites are estimated to be 20 percent of the canadian population by the end of the century.

    How exacly is the energy supply, the furnaces etc. going to be maintained in a highly Northern country that is only 20-30% white/Asian? Inner Detroit just barely hangs together, with the assistance of Michigan’s majority white population.

    As of now, the coldest regions are either barely inhabited, or are well inhabited by majority white/ Asian populations.

    My prediction is that a “brown/black” dominated cold Northern area is pretty much a non-starter. What would happen to Somalia if temperatures fell below 30 degrees for a month straight? It would be a ghost town, with maybe a few hardy survivors (trained in the old-school ways of living in a non-urban environment) left. But inept browns/blacks can’t possibly sustain large urban areas in colder climates.

  39. Feryl says:
    @Toronto Russian

    Ironically, teenage girls may have the least socially permissive attitude among the not-elderly in America. Look at the Despacito English translation video on YouTube, there’s an endless string of comments from schoolgirls disgusted at the sexual content of that Spanish song. A typical highly upvoted comment under an Ed Sheeran song would be:

    Uh, bad news, but Gen Z teen girls are, to put it mildly, a little funny in the head. They have off the charts levels of depression and anxiety. Today’s kids aren’t getting into trouble or having sex*, but they also aren’t learning important life and social skills.

    The cultural gate-keepers right now are late Boomers and Gen X-ers, who grew up wildly and think that every generation of kids has the same taste. Wrong. A lot of Millennials and Gen Z are turned off by the degenerates (of any generation) who Boomers and X-ers think are “edgy” or “daring”. That being said, Gen Z needs to get a damn life, which doesn’t necessarily mean they have to abuse drugs or sleep around. But just do something besides look at your phone.

    *Compared to people born in the 1940’s-1980’s

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  40. @Feryl

    Uh, bad news, but Gen Z teen girls are, to put it mildly, a little funny in the head. They have off the charts levels of depression and anxiety. Today’s kids aren’t getting into trouble or having sex*, but they also aren’t learning important life and social skills.

    They are sort of like living in modern NE Asia. We have the same phenomenon.

  41. @Feryl

    My prediction is that a “brown/black” dominated cold Northern area is pretty much a non-starter. What would happen to Somalia if temperatures fell below 30 degrees for a month straight? It would be a ghost town, with maybe a few hardy survivors (trained in the old-school ways of living in a non-urban environment) left. But inept browns/blacks can’t possibly sustain large urban areas in colder climates.

    Yep. Evolutionarily speaking this will kill off a large part of them and teach the rest of them the lesson our ancestors learned tens of thousands of years ago. If we actually put a large group of blacks in a cold region and withdraw all aid I do believe they will eventually evolve into responsible Ice People. However this requires harsh selections and a long period of time.

  42. @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t really care about the terms for they don’t matter in the long run. The quality of the NE Asian race objectively exists and is observable. Our cities and economy reveal who we are which everyone can observe on Youtube (though I do recommend taking trips to my home region because you probably need to fully experience a normal society to be disgusted by Negroid cities in the West). Getting butthurt over slurs is Negroid-like.

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  43. eah says:
    @eah

    >because ‘muh principals’

    should be ‘muh principles’

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  44. @eah

    Again, nice graphs, EAH. I know you didn’t make ’em, but I do appreciate a graph whose y-axis starts at 0, and with good labeling and so-on. Thank you.

    That was ’17 and the amounts have gone up since then, with student loan debt being at least $200,000,000,000 ($200 Billion) higher since then. Granted, inflation is not what “your” government BLS tells you, so inflation has probably been > 50% since then. No, it is not looking good, as Americans continue to want to live the same quality of life with less pay in real dollars on average. (The economy has been sucking for what used to be the middle-middle-class for a long time.)

    That aside, as to the politics, EAH, do you ever wonder why no enterprising young man has not made a banking business to arbitrage (if that’s the right word) those CC debts with a consolidation business, paying them off at the 18-20-odd % and charging, say 10% to customers? Would he not make a killing? What prevents the small guy from getting involved in stuff like this, when the FED is still lending at < 2% yet, CCs charge in the high teens? Ever thought that maybe our crony-capitalist banker-run Feral Gov't doesn't LIKE the small guy and will stop him in his tracks? I'd call it what it really is, "fascist", but people just associate that with Nazis only.

    Now, what happens when inflation goes through the roof again, as in the mid/late 1970'd, and it pretty much has to? Who's going to give a loan out at 10% (limited by law) when inflation is higher than that?

    The forgiveness of student loan debt is a much more egregious and nasty deal, so I'll write another comment reply on that.

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  45. @eah

    It’s already a moral hazard that banks will lend guaranteed-pay-back money to undergraduate students majoring in any which major that WILL NOT PAY OFF. Now, you want the taxpayers to come up with this $1,500,000,000,000 to make these students “whole” again?

    I can see a whole lot of damn objections from a whole lot of people who’d all be right.

    1) I wonder what the responsible computer-science/tech guy who started out at the tech. college to save money, lived at home (foregoing quite a bit of poontang), and ended up only $5,000 in the hole is gonna feel about this. How about those parents who refused to go along with this college sham and steered their children into something practical? “OK, next scam, we’ll just play the game” – that’ll be EVERYONE’s attitude from this point on. Responsibility doesn’t pay, I guess.

    2) It’ll be time for EVERYONE to go to college – what the hell, Art History, Grievance Studies, Mechanical Engineering (you’re not gonna finish if you’re not smart, but they’ll let you in, sure enough, nowadays), who cares? It’s FREEEEE!

    3) Were I an Art History major* who’d just finished seeing my statement showing that $47,825 due, at 6% interest that will start accumulating next month, I’d have a choice now:

    a) I can take on another major, maybe at another University with a nicer campus, slimmer chicks, and more coffee shops and bars. That’ll defer this for say, 2-3 more years or until the forgiveness comes, and, well, the next loan will be forgiven too, I mean, they can’t screw us on this.

    OR

    b) I can get back to my Starbucks job and try to find a 2nd job at hopefully $10/hr. to help pay for 1/2 the apartment, bills, maybe the school loan (nah, I’ll just blow it off, as Bernie is supposed to win this thing!), but also I can foresee higher income tax coming because, well, even an Art History major knows that 1.5 TRILLION BUCKS doesn’t grow on trees. (Oh, wait, can’t the FED just push some keys and make up $1,500,000,000,000 in a few minutes? What’d that nutty Ron Paul guy say about inflation and loss of the reserve currency again … glad I wasn’t an econ major or there’d have been a quiz on that…)

    Back to School won’t just be a movie anymore.

    .

    * BTW, nothing against the liberal arts really, other than the anti-white-male bullshit that goes on nowadays. However, I just can’t be paying for everyone else’s hobbies. I’m sorry, I can’t spare that much …

  46. @eah

    Don’t sweat the homonyms. That expression is stupid to begin with.

  47. @Achmed E. Newman

    India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Maldives, Bhutan, Nepal—— South Asians

    China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Mongolia, North Korea, South Korea, Japan——- East Asians

    Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Singapore, Brunei, Philippines, Timor Leste—— South-East Asians

    Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan—– Central Asians

    Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Oman, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Palestine, Yemen, Bahrain—– Near-East/ Middle Easterners

    Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia—– Caucuses/Almost Europeaners/ AEs

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  48. @BengaliCanadianDude

    Exactly, BCD, they are so damn bland and bureaucratic. It doesn’t tell me anything about the people. You need to understand that whatever was between my asterisks was a parody. I’m fine with the old terms (sometimes not to people’s faces, of course), and they can call me whatever they want, likewise.

    From another Peak Stupidity post, “Every Picture Tells a Story, Don’t It?”, about the newer names used for Chinese cities (hell, the whole country) as opposed to the much-more-romantic old English-contrived ones:

    *********************************************
    After reading and discussing China today, the older, English names for countries and for the cities in China came up. PeakStupidity believes the English names were so much nicer and evoked images of the mysterious Orient. For example, would you rather date a girl if she were billed as “a beautiful Oriental lass from Canton, in Cathay in the Far East” or if she were “a good worker loyal party-following comrade from Guangzhou’s Tein-hou district of the People’s Republic”?

    Well honestly, I’d want front, back, and side-view jpegs anyway, you know, just to be sure. Every picture tells a story, don’t it?
    *********************************************

    Then, there’s the haircuts. They are doing much better in that respect. Chairman Mao’s “Iron Rice Bowl” no longer doubles as a hair-styling device.

  49. @Feryl

    10-20% white.

    60% Asian.

    I’m assuming that Asians can figure out how to run a furnace system.

  50. @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, as you noted, I stuck to the terms the source used. It’s an improvement on “Asian” as a blanket term applicable to more than half of the world’s population.

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  51. @EastKekistani

    It’s not butthurtness, it’s tedium.

  52. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Muslims will be banned from wearing any kind of religious clothing in the public service jobs. They will also not be allowed to receive government services while in religious garb.

    Irrelevant, most of us wont be affected and thats not as big as you’re claiming

  53. @Audacious Epigone

    Actually, I’d gotten that wrong and just wasn’t clear. Upon reading it again, I see what YOU are saying. I had thought that you put the “subcontinental” in versus the database’s “Asian”, “Indian”, and “American Indian”.

    I hate “subcontinental” but I heartily agree that “Asian” is just ridiculous, and additionally, there is nothing insulting about “Oriental”. It means “Eastern”. So what? Yeah, I guess it’s a little backwards, as it’s really the far-West for us Americans, but Peak Stupidity says Oriental is the term and we’re done talkin’ about it..

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  54. @Achmed E. Newman

    In China the word “Oriental” is merely descriptive and not an insult at all. For example there is an Oriental Pearl Tower in Shanghai and people certainly does not consider the “Oriental” in the name to be an insult.

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  55. @EastKekistani

    No argument there, EK. It’s the PC Westerners who get offended by what Chinese people get called, not the actual Chinese people.

  56. @216

    “We are not going back to 19th century Social Darwinism, not in a society of mass literacy and female suffrage.”

    I’ve seen a good case made that functional literacy was higher at the end of the 19th C,’

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