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Sensing the assertion that Trump underperformed Republicans down ticket was overstated at best, we looked at nationwide House votes and compared them to nationwide presidential votes for 2020. In two-way races, congressional Republicans did 0.7 points better than Trump did. And the Senate, Jamie asked:

Can we see the number of votes per Senate candidates in key states, compared to votes for Orange Hitler / Hindenburg in the same states?

The assertion goes from overstated to non-existent. Putting votes earned by the Libertarian candidate in Arkansas in the Democrat column, a state where no Democrat candidate ran, and using the results from the regular Georgia Senate election between Perdue and Ossoff for the peach state’s senatorial figures we find the president narrowly outperformed Senate Republicans. Biden beat Trump 50.4%-49.6% in the states with Senate elections, while the Democrat candidates beat the Republicans in those states 50.9%-49.1%. So while Trump did 0.7 points worse than House Republicans, he did 0.5 points better than Senate Republicans.

To the potential objection that a Libertarian standing in for a Democrat on the Senate side of things handicaps the senatorial GOP in this comparison, Republican Senator Tom Cotton outperformed Trump in the state by 2.2 points. The Libertarian candidate–a black prison chaplain, self-described social justice advocate, and strong supporter of Black Lives Matter–centered his campaign around the issue of criminal justice reform.

Most satisfyingly, Trump bested McConnell in Kentucky by 3 full points. While Trump beat Biden 63.2%-36.8%, McConnell only beat his Democrat challenger 60.2%-39.8%.

As the GOP leaves Trump to flail about impotently in his futile attempt to contest the results of the presidential election, McConnell is setting the party up for stunning losses in Georgia next week. While $3 trillion of money conjured out of thin air to spread around selectively is necessary, you see, conjuring up $4 trillion is recklessly irresponsible, entirely beyond the pale. Doubly so since the extra trillion would go directly into the pockets of Americans instead of into special interest pork barrels and into Fed-induced asset price inflation as the bulk of the initial $3 trillion is set to do. McConnel can always find money for Egypt and Israel and Pakistan and performing art centers with hundreds of millions of dollars in endowments, but nary a dime for the forgotten men and women of America.

 
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  1. There’s an almost-profound political confluence in the video and photos of Bernie Sanders this week making huge posters out of Trump tweets, and showing them on the US Senate floor, as he and Trump fight for the $2000, and as a by-product help put the Republican party in the grave via the unfolding debacle in Georgia

    It’s a nice final high-note push for Trump to make, alongside the iconic ‘leftist’ who Trump himself says should have been the Dem candidate in both 2016 & 2020 … Trump will be remembered for this fight for the $2000, even if Mike Pence fails to pull a Thomas Jefferson on Wed. Jan 6, rejecting electoral slates & tossing the election to the House voting in state blocs, so Trump would win per that nice Q-larpy final hopium story

    Notably, Trump just won the Gallup poll as ‘most admired American male’, Michelle the ‘female’ (yes, I know…)
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/328193/donald-trump-michelle-obama-admired-2020.aspx

    At about 2:39 in this video of Bernie in the Senate, a huge poster of the Trump tweet that just says “$2000 ASAP!” comes out

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    @brabantian

    It was always disappointing to me that Bernie was so anti-Trump. I would rather he spent that energy bashing establishment Democrats. We need a populist vs establishment political realignment. This won't happen until there is more extreme intraparty fighting and less falling into line. Anyway what you posted is nice to see even if it's too late.

    Replies: @A123, @Rosie

  2. As this study proves, Trumpism is a personality cult with a diminishing influence curve of desiccated boomers. The clock is ticking on the movement writ large, in more ways than one.

    The GOP was absolutely justified in tossing it aside like the festering ideological shit it is.

    • Disagree: Jay Fink
    • Replies: @Thomasina
    @Supply and Demand

    So says the globalist Chinaman.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

  3. Trump turns out the vote and benefits the down ballot, he has long coattails. Even a candidate that outperforms Trump will lose votes overall without him. Seventy five million votes in 2020 is yuge! Put an asterisk next to Biden’s total.

    • Agree: GazaPlanet
    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @LondonBob

    Joe Biden won the election freely, fairly, and resoundingly thanks to upper-middle class, suburban whites under 50.

  4. @LondonBob
    Trump turns out the vote and benefits the down ballot, he has long coattails. Even a candidate that outperforms Trump will lose votes overall without him. Seventy five million votes in 2020 is yuge! Put an asterisk next to Biden's total.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

    Joe Biden won the election freely, fairly, and resoundingly thanks to upper-middle class, suburban whites under 50.

  5. AE, thanks for looking into this. The reason I asked was that some web sites, notably http://www.thegatewaypundit.com, were claiming that although Trump won about the same number of votes as the R. Senate candidates, Joe got many more votes that the D. candidates for senate in the key states, notably, I believe, Wisconsin. Since practically no one votes that way (top of the ticket only, leaving all other choices blank), that would be further evidence of election fraud. They never published any follow-up or correction. Apparently, there was nothing to this story.

    • Replies: @Charlotte
    @Jamie_NYC

    Wisconsin did not have a Senate race this year. Michigan did: Biden got 2,804,040 votes while Gary Peters (D) won the Senate race with 2,734,568 votes. A total of 5,376,801 votes were counted in the senatorial race versus 5,453,892 in the presidential vote, a difference of 77,091 in total votes.

    Replies: @Charlotte

    , @Supply and Demand
    @Jamie_NYC

    Blacks vote that way.

  6. anon[101] • Disclaimer says:

    While $3 trillion of money conjured out of thin air to spread around selectively is necessary, you see, conjuring up $4 trillion is recklessly irresponsible, entirely beyond the pale.

    McConnell can always find money for Egypt and Israel and Pakistan and performing art centers with hundreds of millions of dollars in endowments, but nary a dime for the forgotten men and women of America.

    Probably the most important factor to consider is that vetted Democrat candidates are intended to appeal almost exclusively within the core democrat party constituencies and are selected based on membership in one of their elite race/ethnic/sexual preference classes, yet due to the society-collapsing crony capitalism of the Republican party (and Donald Pollard Trump) Dems have still managed to win in races in which they should not actually be competitive, since they are garnering a high pct of ”against” votes, not affirmations, but revulsion for the Republican candidates.

    You had to to be gay, lesbian, brown, black, non-Christian etc. and/or at least have an extensive public record of racialist based advocacy for these groups to be viewed as a viable Democrat (and often Republican) candidate.

    Biden was actually strategized deliberately as a means of offering the appearance of a stable, traditional candidate who could appeal across a broader group, well outside the bounds of mere democrat racialism, which – aided by the transparent pandering of the Jared Platinum plan – was enough to push the Dems to a comfortable executive branch victory.

    Kind of ignored is the reality that an actual Democratic populist candidacy, say a Sherrod Brown / Tulsi Gabbard ticket, would have led to a complete and likely permanent blowout of Trump and the Republican Party.

    The Democrats are STILL managing to compete and in critical cases win races with candidates that are unappealing outside of their 25% of committed voters, which should not be possible if the Republicans had any remaining trust with the working class electorate, however, had the Dems gone populist instead of racialist, they would have already easily wiped out the Republican party prospects permanently.

    • Replies: @GazaPlanet
    @anon

    What we now know, is that the Democratic Party has been relying on systematic cheating for a very long time now. In reality, the Democratic Party has no more real grass-roots support than Mondale did, except among the powerful judeo-criminal interests they represent. Even with massive non-white immigration, the Democratic Party remains the pariah party. Pariahs that are able to maintain social position through the brute power of force, fraud, and criminal largesse, but pariahs they remain, the revulsion these lower life forms inflict on the mass of the normal population is intense. Only because the Republican Party is totally corrupt and works for the same people who run the Democrats, only because of that, do the Democrats have a chance in "elections" - which they steal.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

  7. Good riddance to the GOP, what a useless party. Whose side are they on? The Left at least usually defend their own.

    Biden-Kamala is such a joke. Unfortunately, it is unfunny. It’s like being governed by clowns, only there will be no laughs, just misery.

    Happy New Year to all!

    P.S. I wish all comment sections at Unz were immediate as in AE’s blog, but no, you have tin-pot dictators like Anatoly “Branch Covidian” Karlin who block all who disagree, Steve “at whim” Sailer who posts the comments 2 days later when the discussion is no longer relevant, and then a bunch of loons such as Laurence Guyenot, Kevin Barrett, Trevor Lynch etc, who will take criticism personally, and several others whom I don’t even read anymore. I wonder what Ron Unz’s plan is, sometimes.

    Happy 2021.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Dumbo

    Wow. That was so well said, I would not alter a single word.

    True, the Unzian stables are definitely home to a strange menagerie of increasingly spavined beasts. AE and Fred Reed I like, but there is no one else I come here to see. There is always Pat Buchanan, but you can read him anywhere.

    The comments section is no better. I have often noted the presence of accounts which must be either sock puppets or bots, and whose predominant activity seems to be "agreeing" or "disagreeing" with others. But even many of the regulars, who seem to be actual human beings, are here only to kill time and fan their egos.

    I'm not sure how limp-wristed, Da Vinci Code-level anti-Christianity became "a view excluded from the mainstream media," but apparently that's where we're at around here.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @Jay Fink
    @Dumbo

    I used to think that Steve didn't like my comments and rejected most of them. Then I noticed he actually posts them all but like you said two days later. OK to be fair sometimes a day and a half later.

    One website permanently banned me from posting, Breitbart. I guess something I wrote was too extreme for them. I feel confident that wouldn't happen to me anywhere on Unz, although I mostly stick to this blog.

    , @Supply and Demand
    @Dumbo

    Anatoly was doing the right thing in moderating his posts. You have real wackos like A123 and LondonBob who to this day end up derailing comment threads with endless Trump apologia and schizophrenic infographics about how Mike Pence will be the Antony to Donald's Caesar. It's the level of discourse I'd expect out of a 6th grader -- or a Florida resident.

    I'm unfamiliar with the moderation practices of the site writ large, but I'd say it's much better than having mod/janitor janissaries like other websites.

  8. @Dumbo
    Good riddance to the GOP, what a useless party. Whose side are they on? The Left at least usually defend their own.

    Biden-Kamala is such a joke. Unfortunately, it is unfunny. It's like being governed by clowns, only there will be no laughs, just misery.

    Happy New Year to all!

    P.S. I wish all comment sections at Unz were immediate as in AE's blog, but no, you have tin-pot dictators like Anatoly "Branch Covidian" Karlin who block all who disagree, Steve "at whim" Sailer who posts the comments 2 days later when the discussion is no longer relevant, and then a bunch of loons such as Laurence Guyenot, Kevin Barrett, Trevor Lynch etc, who will take criticism personally, and several others whom I don't even read anymore. I wonder what Ron Unz's plan is, sometimes.

    Happy 2021.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jay Fink, @Supply and Demand

    Wow. That was so well said, I would not alter a single word.

    True, the Unzian stables are definitely home to a strange menagerie of increasingly spavined beasts. AE and Fred Reed I like, but there is no one else I come here to see. There is always Pat Buchanan, but you can read him anywhere.

    The comments section is no better. I have often noted the presence of accounts which must be either sock puppets or bots, and whose predominant activity seems to be “agreeing” or “disagreeing” with others. But even many of the regulars, who seem to be actual human beings, are here only to kill time and fan their egos.

    I’m not sure how limp-wristed, Da Vinci Code-level anti-Christianity became “a view excluded from the mainstream media,” but apparently that’s where we’re at around here.

    • Thanks: Dumbo
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Wie boter op zijn hoofd heeft, moet uit de zon blijven !

  9. @Jamie_NYC
    AE, thanks for looking into this. The reason I asked was that some web sites, notably www.thegatewaypundit.com, were claiming that although Trump won about the same number of votes as the R. Senate candidates, Joe got many more votes that the D. candidates for senate in the key states, notably, I believe, Wisconsin. Since practically no one votes that way (top of the ticket only, leaving all other choices blank), that would be further evidence of election fraud. They never published any follow-up or correction. Apparently, there was nothing to this story.

    Replies: @Charlotte, @Supply and Demand

    Wisconsin did not have a Senate race this year. Michigan did: Biden got 2,804,040 votes while Gary Peters (D) won the Senate race with 2,734,568 votes. A total of 5,376,801 votes were counted in the senatorial race versus 5,453,892 in the presidential vote, a difference of 77,091 in total votes.

    • Replies: @Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    In 2008, when Barack Obama was first on the ticket, Michigan’s total presidential vote was 4,912,085 versus 4,679,456 votes in the Senate race, a difference of 232,629 votes. In 2000, there were 4,123,557 votes counted in the presidential race versus 4,056,645 votes in the Senate race, a difference of 66,912.

    Ultimately, these numbers don’t tell us whether fraud was involved, but it seems voting for only the top of the ticket is not unheard of (maybe especially among black voters, given the Obama results).

    Replies: @A123

  10. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Dumbo

    Wow. That was so well said, I would not alter a single word.

    True, the Unzian stables are definitely home to a strange menagerie of increasingly spavined beasts. AE and Fred Reed I like, but there is no one else I come here to see. There is always Pat Buchanan, but you can read him anywhere.

    The comments section is no better. I have often noted the presence of accounts which must be either sock puppets or bots, and whose predominant activity seems to be "agreeing" or "disagreeing" with others. But even many of the regulars, who seem to be actual human beings, are here only to kill time and fan their egos.

    I'm not sure how limp-wristed, Da Vinci Code-level anti-Christianity became "a view excluded from the mainstream media," but apparently that's where we're at around here.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Wie boter op zijn hoofd heeft, moet uit de zon blijven !

  11. @Charlotte
    @Jamie_NYC

    Wisconsin did not have a Senate race this year. Michigan did: Biden got 2,804,040 votes while Gary Peters (D) won the Senate race with 2,734,568 votes. A total of 5,376,801 votes were counted in the senatorial race versus 5,453,892 in the presidential vote, a difference of 77,091 in total votes.

    Replies: @Charlotte

    In 2008, when Barack Obama was first on the ticket, Michigan’s total presidential vote was 4,912,085 versus 4,679,456 votes in the Senate race, a difference of 232,629 votes. In 2000, there were 4,123,557 votes counted in the presidential race versus 4,056,645 votes in the Senate race, a difference of 66,912.

    Ultimately, these numbers don’t tell us whether fraud was involved, but it seems voting for only the top of the ticket is not unheard of (maybe especially among black voters, given the Obama results).

    • Replies: @A123
    @Charlotte


    voting for only the top of the ticket is not unheard of (maybe especially among black voters, given the Obama results).
     
    I have been looking for "under-vote" numbers to some time. It is not a standard data point collected and reported. Understandably, as some states have down ticket offices run without party affiliation that generate a huge number of blanks.

    The sudden surge in votes for Biden with no corresponding House and Senate votes is highly suspicious. Especially in Michigan, where the under-votes exceeded the gap between the Presidential candidates and the Senate race was competitive.
    _____

    One statistical anomaly is eyebrow raising, but not enough to warrant charges of fraud. The 2020 election lack of credibility is multiple anomalies in multiple states. An additional problem is that a statistically unreasonable number of issues occured only in the swing states.

    Anyone denying widespread fraud is gonzo phweet crazy or too stupid to understand statistics.

    PEACE 😇

  12. @anon

    While $3 trillion of money conjured out of thin air to spread around selectively is necessary, you see, conjuring up $4 trillion is recklessly irresponsible, entirely beyond the pale.

    McConnell can always find money for Egypt and Israel and Pakistan and performing art centers with hundreds of millions of dollars in endowments, but nary a dime for the forgotten men and women of America.
     
    Probably the most important factor to consider is that vetted Democrat candidates are intended to appeal almost exclusively within the core democrat party constituencies and are selected based on membership in one of their elite race/ethnic/sexual preference classes, yet due to the society-collapsing crony capitalism of the Republican party (and Donald Pollard Trump) Dems have still managed to win in races in which they should not actually be competitive, since they are garnering a high pct of ''against'' votes, not affirmations, but revulsion for the Republican candidates.

    You had to to be gay, lesbian, brown, black, non-Christian etc. and/or at least have an extensive public record of racialist based advocacy for these groups to be viewed as a viable Democrat (and often Republican) candidate.

    Biden was actually strategized deliberately as a means of offering the appearance of a stable, traditional candidate who could appeal across a broader group, well outside the bounds of mere democrat racialism, which - aided by the transparent pandering of the Jared Platinum plan - was enough to push the Dems to a comfortable executive branch victory.

    Kind of ignored is the reality that an actual Democratic populist candidacy, say a Sherrod Brown / Tulsi Gabbard ticket, would have led to a complete and likely permanent blowout of Trump and the Republican Party.

    The Democrats are STILL managing to compete and in critical cases win races with candidates that are unappealing outside of their 25% of committed voters, which should not be possible if the Republicans had any remaining trust with the working class electorate, however, had the Dems gone populist instead of racialist, they would have already easily wiped out the Republican party prospects permanently.

    Replies: @GazaPlanet

    What we now know, is that the Democratic Party has been relying on systematic cheating for a very long time now. In reality, the Democratic Party has no more real grass-roots support than Mondale did, except among the powerful judeo-criminal interests they represent. Even with massive non-white immigration, the Democratic Party remains the pariah party. Pariahs that are able to maintain social position through the brute power of force, fraud, and criminal largesse, but pariahs they remain, the revulsion these lower life forms inflict on the mass of the normal population is intense. Only because the Republican Party is totally corrupt and works for the same people who run the Democrats, only because of that, do the Democrats have a chance in “elections” – which they steal.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @GazaPlanet

    Fact check; Joe Biden won the election freely and fairly, and the only evidence of voter fraud we have is a Trumpkin dressing in drag and pretending to be his dead mommy.

  13. While $3 trillion of money conjured out of thin air to spread around selectively is necessary, you see, conjuring up $4 trillion is recklessly irresponsible, entirely beyond the pale. Doubly so since the extra trillion would go directly into the pockets of Americans instead of into special interest pork barrels and into Fed-induced asset price inflation as the bulk of the initial $3 trillion is set to do. McConnel can always find money for Egypt and Israel and Pakistan and performing art centers with hundreds of millions of dollars in endowments, but nary a dime for the forgotten men and women of America.

    Well put!

    For fifty years our political class has given tens of trillions of dollars to banks too big to fail and individuals too connected to be poor. One justification has been the trickle down theory, i.e. the theory that after most of this money is pocketed by its recipients and they use a tranche to pay off the political class some would still manage to trickle down to us deplorables.

    A trickle up theory would be more reasonable: Giving every American a modest stipend of say $2,000 will keep the poorer from starving and a wheezing economy from collapsing. Furthermore, after doing some good it is inevitable that a significant portion of this money will trickle up to the nation’s rentier and managerial classes and from thence into the pockets of our thoroughly bought and paid for political class.

    Write to your corrupt congress critter today. The total cost of a trickle up economic policy, say around $500 billion, will be a small fraction of what has been spent on trickle down economics. Even if the stipend became monthly for a year or so it would only amount to some $6 trillion, still but a fraction of the amount spent on trickle down economics.

    And our new economic boffins, the MMT folks, have assured us that this will have no impact on inflation.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Like you, I have long thought UBI an intriguing idea. However:


    A trickle up theory would be more reasonable: Giving every American a modest stipend of say $2,000 will keep the poorer from starving and a wheezing economy from collapsing.
     
    ... UBI is not magic.

    No one is starving. The economy will not collapse. You will see.


    Even if the stipend became monthly for a year or so it would only amount to some $6 trillion....
     
    Since GDP is only $21 trillion, I doubt that such a monthly stipend would achieve the effect you intend.

    ... still but a fraction of the amount spent on trickle down economics.
     
    I am not sure what you mean.

    And our new economic boffins, the MMT folks, have assured us that this will have no impact on inflation.
     
    If the boffins fail to sober their new followers up soon, the resulting hangover will unnecessarily ruin MMT's reputation for the next 30 years.

    The boffins know that there are limits.

  14. @Jus' Sayin'...

    While $3 trillion of money conjured out of thin air to spread around selectively is necessary, you see, conjuring up $4 trillion is recklessly irresponsible, entirely beyond the pale. Doubly so since the extra trillion would go directly into the pockets of Americans instead of into special interest pork barrels and into Fed-induced asset price inflation as the bulk of the initial $3 trillion is set to do. McConnel can always find money for Egypt and Israel and Pakistan and performing art centers with hundreds of millions of dollars in endowments, but nary a dime for the forgotten men and women of America.
     
    Well put!

    For fifty years our political class has given tens of trillions of dollars to banks too big to fail and individuals too connected to be poor. One justification has been the trickle down theory, i.e. the theory that after most of this money is pocketed by its recipients and they use a tranche to pay off the political class some would still manage to trickle down to us deplorables.

    A trickle up theory would be more reasonable: Giving every American a modest stipend of say $2,000 will keep the poorer from starving and a wheezing economy from collapsing. Furthermore, after doing some good it is inevitable that a significant portion of this money will trickle up to the nation’s rentier and managerial classes and from thence into the pockets of our thoroughly bought and paid for political class.

    Write to your corrupt congress critter today. The total cost of a trickle up economic policy, say around $500 billion, will be a small fraction of what has been spent on trickle down economics. Even if the stipend became monthly for a year or so it would only amount to some $6 trillion, still but a fraction of the amount spent on trickle down economics.

    And our new economic boffins, the MMT folks, have assured us that this will have no impact on inflation.

    Replies: @V. K. Ovelund

    Like you, I have long thought UBI an intriguing idea. However:

    A trickle up theory would be more reasonable: Giving every American a modest stipend of say $2,000 will keep the poorer from starving and a wheezing economy from collapsing.

    … UBI is not magic.

    No one is starving. The economy will not collapse. You will see.

    Even if the stipend became monthly for a year or so it would only amount to some $6 trillion….

    Since GDP is only $21 trillion, I doubt that such a monthly stipend would achieve the effect you intend.

    … still but a fraction of the amount spent on trickle down economics.

    I am not sure what you mean.

    And our new economic boffins, the MMT folks, have assured us that this will have no impact on inflation.

    If the boffins fail to sober their new followers up soon, the resulting hangover will unnecessarily ruin MMT’s reputation for the next 30 years.

    The boffins know that there are limits.

  15. @GazaPlanet
    @anon

    What we now know, is that the Democratic Party has been relying on systematic cheating for a very long time now. In reality, the Democratic Party has no more real grass-roots support than Mondale did, except among the powerful judeo-criminal interests they represent. Even with massive non-white immigration, the Democratic Party remains the pariah party. Pariahs that are able to maintain social position through the brute power of force, fraud, and criminal largesse, but pariahs they remain, the revulsion these lower life forms inflict on the mass of the normal population is intense. Only because the Republican Party is totally corrupt and works for the same people who run the Democrats, only because of that, do the Democrats have a chance in "elections" - which they steal.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

    Fact check; Joe Biden won the election freely and fairly, and the only evidence of voter fraud we have is a Trumpkin dressing in drag and pretending to be his dead mommy.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
  16. @Jamie_NYC
    AE, thanks for looking into this. The reason I asked was that some web sites, notably www.thegatewaypundit.com, were claiming that although Trump won about the same number of votes as the R. Senate candidates, Joe got many more votes that the D. candidates for senate in the key states, notably, I believe, Wisconsin. Since practically no one votes that way (top of the ticket only, leaving all other choices blank), that would be further evidence of election fraud. They never published any follow-up or correction. Apparently, there was nothing to this story.

    Replies: @Charlotte, @Supply and Demand

    Blacks vote that way.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
  17. @Supply and Demand
    As this study proves, Trumpism is a personality cult with a diminishing influence curve of desiccated boomers. The clock is ticking on the movement writ large, in more ways than one.

    The GOP was absolutely justified in tossing it aside like the festering ideological shit it is.

    Replies: @Thomasina

    So says the globalist Chinaman.

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
    @Thomasina

    China is ascendant and the real winner of the 2020 election (freely and fairly). Not sure what you're trying to say here apart from the fact that Trump lost and you're COPEing.

    The silver lining is that the GOP can finally move on and become electorally relevant again.

  18. @brabantian
    There's an almost-profound political confluence in the video and photos of Bernie Sanders this week making huge posters out of Trump tweets, and showing them on the US Senate floor, as he and Trump fight for the $2000, and as a by-product help put the Republican party in the grave via the unfolding debacle in Georgia

    It's a nice final high-note push for Trump to make, alongside the iconic 'leftist' who Trump himself says should have been the Dem candidate in both 2016 & 2020 ... Trump will be remembered for this fight for the $2000, even if Mike Pence fails to pull a Thomas Jefferson on Wed. Jan 6, rejecting electoral slates & tossing the election to the House voting in state blocs, so Trump would win per that nice Q-larpy final hopium story

    Notably, Trump just won the Gallup poll as 'most admired American male', Michelle the 'female' (yes, I know...)
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/328193/donald-trump-michelle-obama-admired-2020.aspx

    At about 2:39 in this video of Bernie in the Senate, a huge poster of the Trump tweet that just says "$2000 ASAP!" comes out
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_OYGaVBgSA&t=2m39s

    Replies: @Jay Fink

    It was always disappointing to me that Bernie was so anti-Trump. I would rather he spent that energy bashing establishment Democrats. We need a populist vs establishment political realignment. This won’t happen until there is more extreme intraparty fighting and less falling into line. Anyway what you posted is nice to see even if it’s too late.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Jay Fink


    It was always disappointing to me that Bernie was so anti-Trump. I would rather he spent that energy bashing establishment Democrats. We need a populist vs establishment political realignment.
     
    Bernie used to speak out against H1B visas. From 2015: (1)

    "Last year, the top 10 employers of H-1B guest workers were all offshore outsourcing companies," Sanders said in a Senate speech in 2013. "These firms are responsible for shipping large numbers of American information technology jobs to India and other countries."

    The points raised by Sanders echo those made by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who chairs the Senate's Immigration subcommittee. In fact, Sanders was one of 10 senators who signed a recent letter by Sessions and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) to several federal departments seeking an investigation into H-1B use.
     
    Realignment is possible.

    The establishment opposes such change. They profit from having two weak parties. The last thing they want is a strong worker party that cannot be manipulated by race/religion disinformation.

    Trump booted International MegaCorporations and NeoConDemocrats out of the GOP. The Democrats are now the party of anti-worker "trade" deals and unfunded foreign wars.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.computerworld.com/article/2916827/bernie-sanders-h-1b-skeptic.html
    , @Rosie
    @Jay Fink


    We need a populist vs establishment political realignment.
     
    The whole anti-White schtick is intended and deliberately calculated to prevent that from happening. It is a diversion/scapegoating tactic to take the heat off YKW.

    Replies: @Jay Fink, @iffen

  19. @Dumbo
    Good riddance to the GOP, what a useless party. Whose side are they on? The Left at least usually defend their own.

    Biden-Kamala is such a joke. Unfortunately, it is unfunny. It's like being governed by clowns, only there will be no laughs, just misery.

    Happy New Year to all!

    P.S. I wish all comment sections at Unz were immediate as in AE's blog, but no, you have tin-pot dictators like Anatoly "Branch Covidian" Karlin who block all who disagree, Steve "at whim" Sailer who posts the comments 2 days later when the discussion is no longer relevant, and then a bunch of loons such as Laurence Guyenot, Kevin Barrett, Trevor Lynch etc, who will take criticism personally, and several others whom I don't even read anymore. I wonder what Ron Unz's plan is, sometimes.

    Happy 2021.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jay Fink, @Supply and Demand

    I used to think that Steve didn’t like my comments and rejected most of them. Then I noticed he actually posts them all but like you said two days later. OK to be fair sometimes a day and a half later.

    One website permanently banned me from posting, Breitbart. I guess something I wrote was too extreme for them. I feel confident that wouldn’t happen to me anywhere on Unz, although I mostly stick to this blog.

  20. @Thomasina
    @Supply and Demand

    So says the globalist Chinaman.

    Replies: @Supply and Demand

    China is ascendant and the real winner of the 2020 election (freely and fairly). Not sure what you’re trying to say here apart from the fact that Trump lost and you’re COPEing.

    The silver lining is that the GOP can finally move on and become electorally relevant again.

  21. @Dumbo
    Good riddance to the GOP, what a useless party. Whose side are they on? The Left at least usually defend their own.

    Biden-Kamala is such a joke. Unfortunately, it is unfunny. It's like being governed by clowns, only there will be no laughs, just misery.

    Happy New Year to all!

    P.S. I wish all comment sections at Unz were immediate as in AE's blog, but no, you have tin-pot dictators like Anatoly "Branch Covidian" Karlin who block all who disagree, Steve "at whim" Sailer who posts the comments 2 days later when the discussion is no longer relevant, and then a bunch of loons such as Laurence Guyenot, Kevin Barrett, Trevor Lynch etc, who will take criticism personally, and several others whom I don't even read anymore. I wonder what Ron Unz's plan is, sometimes.

    Happy 2021.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Jay Fink, @Supply and Demand

    Anatoly was doing the right thing in moderating his posts. You have real wackos like A123 and LondonBob who to this day end up derailing comment threads with endless Trump apologia and schizophrenic infographics about how Mike Pence will be the Antony to Donald’s Caesar. It’s the level of discourse I’d expect out of a 6th grader — or a Florida resident.

    I’m unfamiliar with the moderation practices of the site writ large, but I’d say it’s much better than having mod/janitor janissaries like other websites.

  22. @Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    In 2008, when Barack Obama was first on the ticket, Michigan’s total presidential vote was 4,912,085 versus 4,679,456 votes in the Senate race, a difference of 232,629 votes. In 2000, there were 4,123,557 votes counted in the presidential race versus 4,056,645 votes in the Senate race, a difference of 66,912.

    Ultimately, these numbers don’t tell us whether fraud was involved, but it seems voting for only the top of the ticket is not unheard of (maybe especially among black voters, given the Obama results).

    Replies: @A123

    voting for only the top of the ticket is not unheard of (maybe especially among black voters, given the Obama results).

    I have been looking for “under-vote” numbers to some time. It is not a standard data point collected and reported. Understandably, as some states have down ticket offices run without party affiliation that generate a huge number of blanks.

    The sudden surge in votes for Biden with no corresponding House and Senate votes is highly suspicious. Especially in Michigan, where the under-votes exceeded the gap between the Presidential candidates and the Senate race was competitive.
    _____

    One statistical anomaly is eyebrow raising, but not enough to warrant charges of fraud. The 2020 election lack of credibility is multiple anomalies in multiple states. An additional problem is that a statistically unreasonable number of issues occured only in the swing states.

    Anyone denying widespread fraud is gonzo phweet crazy or too stupid to understand statistics.

    PEACE 😇

  23. @Jay Fink
    @brabantian

    It was always disappointing to me that Bernie was so anti-Trump. I would rather he spent that energy bashing establishment Democrats. We need a populist vs establishment political realignment. This won't happen until there is more extreme intraparty fighting and less falling into line. Anyway what you posted is nice to see even if it's too late.

    Replies: @A123, @Rosie

    It was always disappointing to me that Bernie was so anti-Trump. I would rather he spent that energy bashing establishment Democrats. We need a populist vs establishment political realignment.

    Bernie used to speak out against H1B visas. From 2015: (1)

    “Last year, the top 10 employers of H-1B guest workers were all offshore outsourcing companies,” Sanders said in a Senate speech in 2013. “These firms are responsible for shipping large numbers of American information technology jobs to India and other countries.”

    The points raised by Sanders echo those made by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who chairs the Senate’s Immigration subcommittee. In fact, Sanders was one of 10 senators who signed a recent letter by Sessions and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) to several federal departments seeking an investigation into H-1B use.

    Realignment is possible.

    The establishment opposes such change. They profit from having two weak parties. The last thing they want is a strong worker party that cannot be manipulated by race/religion disinformation.

    Trump booted International MegaCorporations and NeoConDemocrats out of the GOP. The Democrats are now the party of anti-worker “trade” deals and unfunded foreign wars.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.computerworld.com/article/2916827/bernie-sanders-h-1b-skeptic.html

    • Thanks: Jay Fink
  24. @Jay Fink
    @brabantian

    It was always disappointing to me that Bernie was so anti-Trump. I would rather he spent that energy bashing establishment Democrats. We need a populist vs establishment political realignment. This won't happen until there is more extreme intraparty fighting and less falling into line. Anyway what you posted is nice to see even if it's too late.

    Replies: @A123, @Rosie

    We need a populist vs establishment political realignment.

    The whole anti-White schtick is intended and deliberately calculated to prevent that from happening. It is a diversion/scapegoating tactic to take the heat off YKW.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    @Rosie

    A lot (most?l from the populist left do not understand this.

    , @iffen
    @Rosie

    Akshully, I think that most of the tizzy fit over YKW and most of the WN BS perfectly complements "their" calculations. Come to think of it, controlled opposition does work quite well.

  25. @Rosie
    @Jay Fink


    We need a populist vs establishment political realignment.
     
    The whole anti-White schtick is intended and deliberately calculated to prevent that from happening. It is a diversion/scapegoating tactic to take the heat off YKW.

    Replies: @Jay Fink, @iffen

    A lot (most?l from the populist left do not understand this.

  26. @Rosie
    @Jay Fink


    We need a populist vs establishment political realignment.
     
    The whole anti-White schtick is intended and deliberately calculated to prevent that from happening. It is a diversion/scapegoating tactic to take the heat off YKW.

    Replies: @Jay Fink, @iffen

    Akshully, I think that most of the tizzy fit over YKW and most of the WN BS perfectly complements “their” calculations. Come to think of it, controlled opposition does work quite well.

  27. Didn’t grasp most of Audacious’ 3 or 4 paragraphs.
    Only got through third grade.

    Do know though: Trump got 80% of legit votes.

    Beaten Biden and NotKamaLot got all DeepShit State’s votes, maybe 5 mill.
    Short 150 million.

    Those votes will make a not satisfying snack when those two slither off stage.

    All Repubs benefited greatly, even Manure McConnell, who soon is gone.

    5 dancing shlomos

    • Troll: Supply and Demand

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