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COTW is a twofer–sagacious eloquence from Mark G.:

There are a lot of things I believed in ten years ago that I don’t believe in now. That means there are also probably things I believe in right now that are false. So it is a good idea to keep an open mind and not savagely attack someone who disagrees with me.

Another thing I’ve discovered is that if I savagely attack someone’s comment sometimes later on I will see lots of other comments from the same person that I agree with. So I may be viciously attacking someone who I agree with ninety percent of the time and just haven’t found that out yet.

And not Trump the Transformative but rather Trump the Transitional from nebulafox:

let’s look beyond Trump for a little while: he’s not important in the long run. What is important is the fact that the GOP is now the populist party now, whether they want to be or not. Younger GOP politicos have realized this and are beginning to shift their political platforms accordingly. The money that special interests give you is going to be an increasingly risky bet against the risk of activating a voting populace growing ever more antipathetic to them. Now, I don’t put it beyond the K-Street boys to try and force another Romney type down everybody’s throats down the line, should Trump lose this year. But he won’t be going anywhere-he’ll probably be mortally wounded if not blocked by an insurgency in the primary, and he’ll definitely lose the election if he gets that far.

“Conservatism”, as defined from 1994-2015, has no future. The GOP Establishment refuses to understand this, as usual, but given enough time, that won’t matter anymore.

 
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  1. So the GOP is going to adopt some statist nanny horseshit because Romney=bad establishment man?

    • Replies: @James Braxton
    @clintwestwood

    Maybe that is what their voters want.

    Plus guns and a big beautiful wall.

  2. 216 says: • Website

    Now, I don’t put it beyond the K-Street boys to try and force another Romney type down everybody’s throats down the line, should Trump lose this year. But he won’t be going anywhere-he’ll probably be mortally wounded if not blocked by an insurgency in the primary, and he’ll definitely lose the election if he gets that far.

    Should we underestimate the establishment at our peril?

    The aspect of the GOP policies which are so unpopular is the subservience to the wealthy. Even a brisk moderation on this by Trump flipped four Midwestern states.

    Imagine if C Kirk’s funders admit defeat on their white whale of “zero capital gains taxes”.

    The current administration has already caved on Woke, it’s probable that the base will as well.

    • Replies: @indocon
    @216

    Well well see what good old Charlie is tweeting tonight:

    "American citizens, not foreign nationals or illegals should get precedence for testing and treatment

    People who broke into our country shouldn’t flood it our medical system"

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Charlie%20kirk&src=typed_query

    Replies: @216, @bro3886

    , @nebulafox
    @216

    As I've said: there are plenty of younger GOP pols who understand this and are subtly but unmistakably shifting away from unrestrained plutocrat worship. Just compare what Marco Rubio is saying now as opposed to what he was saying in 2016.

    I am skeptical that the McConnell types will follow suit, probably as much out of true belief as out of politics. But as I mentioned, there's only going to be so much the donor class can do. It's gotten to the point that any random insurgent willing and able buck or ignore them, and willing to slay sacred cows that the powers-that-be in the US don't want publicly discussed, is going to court massive levels of political support.

    Re: wokeism-I don't think that's much of a danger because Corporate America itself is aligned with the SJW agenda. Incorporating anti-woke sentiment into an economically populist platform squarely aimed at a governing class that has been an objective, venal failure over the past few decades shouldn't be that difficult. We've had Senators profit off a pandemic. If you can't eject some GOPe mainstays over that, then give up on the biz.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    , @Mr. XYZ
    @216


    The current administration has already caved on Woke,
     
    Where exactly?
    , @Audacious Epigone
    @216

    Maybe. On the other hand, the Republican electorate clearly led the GOPe--kicking and screaming--to much tougher rhetoric on illegal immigration, and Wokiness isn't changing that.

  3. @216

    Now, I don’t put it beyond the K-Street boys to try and force another Romney type down everybody’s throats down the line, should Trump lose this year. But he won’t be going anywhere-he’ll probably be mortally wounded if not blocked by an insurgency in the primary, and he’ll definitely lose the election if he gets that far.
     
    Should we underestimate the establishment at our peril?

    The aspect of the GOP policies which are so unpopular is the subservience to the wealthy. Even a brisk moderation on this by Trump flipped four Midwestern states.

    Imagine if C Kirk's funders admit defeat on their white whale of "zero capital gains taxes".

    The current administration has already caved on Woke, it's probable that the base will as well.

    Replies: @indocon, @nebulafox, @Mr. XYZ, @Audacious Epigone

    Well well see what good old Charlie is tweeting tonight:

    “American citizens, not foreign nationals or illegals should get precedence for testing and treatment

    People who broke into our country shouldn’t flood it our medical system”

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Charlie%20kirk&src=typed_query

    • Replies: @216
    @indocon

    If he wasn't a blue check, he'd be at risk of a ban for saying that.

    Condemning "illegals" rather than "illegal immigration" is considered "national origins discrimination", and sometimes is flagged as "dehumanization".

    And Kirk is well known for his slimy behavior. He could spin around again in 2022 and declare that "illegal immigration is the highest act of patriotism".

    , @bro3886
    @indocon

    Right now corona virus is a disease of the Mexican wealthy, soon it will spread to the masses, and when it does they will rush to the border for treatment, at least in the North. Nobody's talking about this and the authorities are probably not preparing for it. Get ready to foot the bill, in more ways than one.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  4. 216 says: • Website
    @indocon
    @216

    Well well see what good old Charlie is tweeting tonight:

    "American citizens, not foreign nationals or illegals should get precedence for testing and treatment

    People who broke into our country shouldn’t flood it our medical system"

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Charlie%20kirk&src=typed_query

    Replies: @216, @bro3886

    If he wasn’t a blue check, he’d be at risk of a ban for saying that.

    Condemning “illegals” rather than “illegal immigration” is considered “national origins discrimination”, and sometimes is flagged as “dehumanization”.

    And Kirk is well known for his slimy behavior. He could spin around again in 2022 and declare that “illegal immigration is the highest act of patriotism”.

  5. @216

    Now, I don’t put it beyond the K-Street boys to try and force another Romney type down everybody’s throats down the line, should Trump lose this year. But he won’t be going anywhere-he’ll probably be mortally wounded if not blocked by an insurgency in the primary, and he’ll definitely lose the election if he gets that far.
     
    Should we underestimate the establishment at our peril?

    The aspect of the GOP policies which are so unpopular is the subservience to the wealthy. Even a brisk moderation on this by Trump flipped four Midwestern states.

    Imagine if C Kirk's funders admit defeat on their white whale of "zero capital gains taxes".

    The current administration has already caved on Woke, it's probable that the base will as well.

    Replies: @indocon, @nebulafox, @Mr. XYZ, @Audacious Epigone

    As I’ve said: there are plenty of younger GOP pols who understand this and are subtly but unmistakably shifting away from unrestrained plutocrat worship. Just compare what Marco Rubio is saying now as opposed to what he was saying in 2016.

    I am skeptical that the McConnell types will follow suit, probably as much out of true belief as out of politics. But as I mentioned, there’s only going to be so much the donor class can do. It’s gotten to the point that any random insurgent willing and able buck or ignore them, and willing to slay sacred cows that the powers-that-be in the US don’t want publicly discussed, is going to court massive levels of political support.

    Re: wokeism-I don’t think that’s much of a danger because Corporate America itself is aligned with the SJW agenda. Incorporating anti-woke sentiment into an economically populist platform squarely aimed at a governing class that has been an objective, venal failure over the past few decades shouldn’t be that difficult. We’ve had Senators profit off a pandemic. If you can’t eject some GOPe mainstays over that, then give up on the biz.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @nebulafox


    We’ve had Senators profit off a pandemic.
     
    And not only that, the Democrats are trying to hijack the passage of the relief bill (bad enough in itself) to debate unrelated matters like the Green New Deal and studen loan forgiveness.

    This goes to show that they aren't taking their own emergency theater seriously. This is still politics as usual as far as they're concerned. The Democrats are the ones primarily putting millions of youthful Wokesters out of work and destroying the economy for purely personal gains. I hope this does not go unnoticed.
  6. You should always keep one eye on your enemies; those enemies may also be in possession of some piece of information that you do not.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Nodwink

    That is true, with the caveat someone who disagrees with you on an Internet board isn't really your enemy...I guess unless you were George Soros replying directly to a Ron Unz comment or something.

  7. @Nodwink
    You should always keep one eye on your enemies; those enemies may also be in possession of some piece of information that you do not.

    Replies: @SFG

    That is true, with the caveat someone who disagrees with you on an Internet board isn’t really your enemy…I guess unless you were George Soros replying directly to a Ron Unz comment or something.

  8. Nebulafox is correct.

    Trump’s presidency has started the process of clearing dead weight from the GOP including both:
    — Aggressive NeoConDemocrats
    — Deep State pro-Immigration Wall Street-ers

    Trump is a President not a King. He has had to make compromises that limit the speed of the transformation. And, he cannot simultaneously deal with every issue created by 30+ years of Globalism.
    ____

    This is part of a larger movement against the PC ultra-left that wields too much power at many levels. UN/NWO IslamoGlobalism is losing to Christian Populism in Europe.

    WUHAN-19 will accelerate Populism across the globe. It exposed the dangers of long and fragile supply chains. And, it proves that China’s near monopoly in critical areas of manufacturing is a threat to the security of many nations.
    ____

    The real test for the U.S. will be 2024. The corrupt left of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @iffen
    @A123

    The corrupt left right of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.

    No charge.

    Replies: @A123

    , @UK
    @A123

    "all we did is vote Trump in with a very slim victory and he hasn't completely and single-handedly reversed 30 years of bad policy and implemented everything we could ever want."

    Replies: @A123

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @A123

    While I'm pessimistic on a lot of things, I'm not on the top of the Republican ticket. Trump has utterly humiliated the Never Trump faction of the GOP. Bill Weld, Joe Walsh, Mark Sanford--am I missing anyone else?--have exposed how there is no support for Romney-Republicanism among the electorate anymore. The process in 2016 hasn't reversed, it's been completed. And it wasn't even close in 2016 if we count Ted Cruz as representing a similar strain of anti-Romneyism.

  9. @A123
    Nebulafox is correct.

    Trump's presidency has started the process of clearing dead weight from the GOP including both:
    --- Aggressive NeoConDemocrats
    --- Deep State pro-Immigration Wall Street-ers

    Trump is a President not a King. He has had to make compromises that limit the speed of the transformation. And, he cannot simultaneously deal with every issue created by 30+ years of Globalism.
    ____

    This is part of a larger movement against the PC ultra-left that wields too much power at many levels. UN/NWO IslamoGlobalism is losing to Christian Populism in Europe.

    WUHAN-19 will accelerate Populism across the globe. It exposed the dangers of long and fragile supply chains. And, it proves that China's near monopoly in critical areas of manufacturing is a threat to the security of many nations.
    ____

    The real test for the U.S. will be 2024. The corrupt left of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @iffen, @UK, @Audacious Epigone

    The corrupt left right of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.

    No charge.

    • Replies: @A123
    @iffen


    The corrupt left right of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.
     
    Iffen,

    I give you the award -- #EpicFailOMG

    My statement is correct as originally written.

    Romney is Left/Corporate. Romney was of the 1% Elite Globalist Left, by the 1% Elite Globalist Left, for the 1% Elite Globalist Left.

    For further proof, recall Romney's recent Ultra-Left sedition. He served Dianne Feinstein's anti-constitutional impeachment on fake charges of "Obstruction of Nothing".

    Romney is so far left, it is surprising he has not departed the GOP to join his ideological Wall Street loving soulmates in the DNC.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @dfordoom

  10. @iffen
    @A123

    The corrupt left right of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.

    No charge.

    Replies: @A123

    The corrupt left right of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.

    Iffen,

    I give you the award — #EpicFailOMG

    My statement is correct as originally written.

    Romney is Left/Corporate. Romney was of the 1% Elite Globalist Left, by the 1% Elite Globalist Left, for the 1% Elite Globalist Left.

    For further proof, recall Romney’s recent Ultra-Left sedition. He served Dianne Feinstein’s anti-constitutional impeachment on fake charges of “Obstruction of Nothing“.

    Romney is so far left, it is surprising he has not departed the GOP to join his ideological Wall Street loving soulmates in the DNC.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @A123


    Romney is so far left, it is surprising he has not departed the GOP to join his ideological Wall Street loving soulmates in the DNC.
     
    So the defining characteristic of leftism is support for Wall Street? That's a fascinating way of looking at things. If you hold extreme right-wing views you're a leftist? Because left is right and right is left.

    It seems to me that for many on the Right a leftist is "someone I don't like or don't approve of."

    Replies: @A123

  11. @nebulafox
    @216

    As I've said: there are plenty of younger GOP pols who understand this and are subtly but unmistakably shifting away from unrestrained plutocrat worship. Just compare what Marco Rubio is saying now as opposed to what he was saying in 2016.

    I am skeptical that the McConnell types will follow suit, probably as much out of true belief as out of politics. But as I mentioned, there's only going to be so much the donor class can do. It's gotten to the point that any random insurgent willing and able buck or ignore them, and willing to slay sacred cows that the powers-that-be in the US don't want publicly discussed, is going to court massive levels of political support.

    Re: wokeism-I don't think that's much of a danger because Corporate America itself is aligned with the SJW agenda. Incorporating anti-woke sentiment into an economically populist platform squarely aimed at a governing class that has been an objective, venal failure over the past few decades shouldn't be that difficult. We've had Senators profit off a pandemic. If you can't eject some GOPe mainstays over that, then give up on the biz.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    We’ve had Senators profit off a pandemic.

    And not only that, the Democrats are trying to hijack the passage of the relief bill (bad enough in itself) to debate unrelated matters like the Green New Deal and studen loan forgiveness.

    This goes to show that they aren’t taking their own emergency theater seriously. This is still politics as usual as far as they’re concerned. The Democrats are the ones primarily putting millions of youthful Wokesters out of work and destroying the economy for purely personal gains. I hope this does not go unnoticed.

  12. @216

    Now, I don’t put it beyond the K-Street boys to try and force another Romney type down everybody’s throats down the line, should Trump lose this year. But he won’t be going anywhere-he’ll probably be mortally wounded if not blocked by an insurgency in the primary, and he’ll definitely lose the election if he gets that far.
     
    Should we underestimate the establishment at our peril?

    The aspect of the GOP policies which are so unpopular is the subservience to the wealthy. Even a brisk moderation on this by Trump flipped four Midwestern states.

    Imagine if C Kirk's funders admit defeat on their white whale of "zero capital gains taxes".

    The current administration has already caved on Woke, it's probable that the base will as well.

    Replies: @indocon, @nebulafox, @Mr. XYZ, @Audacious Epigone

    The current administration has already caved on Woke,

    Where exactly?

  13. nebulafox says:

    …should Trump lose this year.

    Unfortunately, you are too optimistic. There isn’t going to be an election.

    Yes, Trump, whether in on it or not, is transitional. He is presiding over the intentional collapse of the last elements of the republic.

    Now, as much as I like being right, this time, I don’t want to be. That said, if I am, I will still gloat about it and say I told you so. That is, of course, if the camp I’m sent to lets me post at UR. 🙂

    Also, let me say that I agree with the sentiment expressed by Mark G. We all have certain commenters that we jive with more than others, but I think most of the folks here at UR have good intentions, regardless of their ideological bias, and I have learned something even from those I almost always disagree with.

    The fact that we are all having these discussions at UR and not at the major platforms with a wider audience…what does that tell you? UR is one of the last elements of the republic.

    • LOL: iffen
  14. @A123
    @iffen


    The corrupt left right of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.
     
    Iffen,

    I give you the award -- #EpicFailOMG

    My statement is correct as originally written.

    Romney is Left/Corporate. Romney was of the 1% Elite Globalist Left, by the 1% Elite Globalist Left, for the 1% Elite Globalist Left.

    For further proof, recall Romney's recent Ultra-Left sedition. He served Dianne Feinstein's anti-constitutional impeachment on fake charges of "Obstruction of Nothing".

    Romney is so far left, it is surprising he has not departed the GOP to join his ideological Wall Street loving soulmates in the DNC.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Romney is so far left, it is surprising he has not departed the GOP to join his ideological Wall Street loving soulmates in the DNC.

    So the defining characteristic of leftism is support for Wall Street? That’s a fascinating way of looking at things. If you hold extreme right-wing views you’re a leftist? Because left is right and right is left.

    It seems to me that for many on the Right a leftist is “someone I don’t like or don’t approve of.”

    • Agree: iffen
    • Replies: @A123
    @dfordoom


    So the defining characteristic of leftism is support for Wall Street? That’s a fascinating way of looking at things. If you hold extreme right-wing views you’re a leftist? Because left is right and right is left.
     
    OK, Zoomer... Perhaps you are just too young to see it

    One of the Orwellian mantras of the Fake Stream Media is, "left is right and right is left.". Outlets like Ted Turner's CNN intentionally obscure the the concepts of the left/right spectrum. They like the authoritarian, Wall Street 'left'.

    Would you like some examples?

    The Elite 1 % in the U.S. is far 'left' and believes in Globalist SJW ideals like open borders. It is a key Wall Street 'left' tactic to suppress wages and keep the Christian, Main Street American 'right' too weak to oppose them.

    An Elite 1% Democrat was in the White House for every modern, major war the U.S. has joined. The only exception is Iraq. The pro-war Globalists penetrated the GOP with "GW". That phenomenon is now over. The NeoConDemocrats have returned to their traditional Globalist DNC home. Pro-war Biden will have troops on the ground in the Ukraine to protect his Burisma follies. A pro-war 'left' is the historical norm.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @dfordoom

  15. @A123
    Nebulafox is correct.

    Trump's presidency has started the process of clearing dead weight from the GOP including both:
    --- Aggressive NeoConDemocrats
    --- Deep State pro-Immigration Wall Street-ers

    Trump is a President not a King. He has had to make compromises that limit the speed of the transformation. And, he cannot simultaneously deal with every issue created by 30+ years of Globalism.
    ____

    This is part of a larger movement against the PC ultra-left that wields too much power at many levels. UN/NWO IslamoGlobalism is losing to Christian Populism in Europe.

    WUHAN-19 will accelerate Populism across the globe. It exposed the dangers of long and fragile supply chains. And, it proves that China's near monopoly in critical areas of manufacturing is a threat to the security of many nations.
    ____

    The real test for the U.S. will be 2024. The corrupt left of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @iffen, @UK, @Audacious Epigone

    “all we did is vote Trump in with a very slim victory and he hasn’t completely and single-handedly reversed 30 years of bad policy and implemented everything we could ever want.”

    • Replies: @A123
    @UK


    “all we did is vote Trump in with a very slim victory ”
     
    The victory was actually huge, not slim. There were millions of fraudulent votes including in the 'count'.

    he hasn’t completely and single-handedly reversed 30 years of bad policy and implemented everything we could ever want.
     
    Exactly right. Trump's eight years in office is a transition that undermines the damage of the Deep State.

    The test of will be the selection of his successor. If the GOP picks:

    -- A 'right' candidate like Trump -- It will transform.
    -- An 'ultra-left' open borders Globalist like Romney -- It will collapse.

    PEACE 😷

  16. @UK
    @A123

    "all we did is vote Trump in with a very slim victory and he hasn't completely and single-handedly reversed 30 years of bad policy and implemented everything we could ever want."

    Replies: @A123

    “all we did is vote Trump in with a very slim victory ”

    The victory was actually huge, not slim. There were millions of fraudulent votes including in the ‘count’.

    he hasn’t completely and single-handedly reversed 30 years of bad policy and implemented everything we could ever want.

    Exactly right. Trump’s eight years in office is a transition that undermines the damage of the Deep State.

    The test of will be the selection of his successor. If the GOP picks:

    — A ‘right’ candidate like Trump — It will transform.
    — An ‘ultra-left’ open borders Globalist like Romney — It will collapse.

    PEACE 😷

  17. @dfordoom
    @A123


    Romney is so far left, it is surprising he has not departed the GOP to join his ideological Wall Street loving soulmates in the DNC.
     
    So the defining characteristic of leftism is support for Wall Street? That's a fascinating way of looking at things. If you hold extreme right-wing views you're a leftist? Because left is right and right is left.

    It seems to me that for many on the Right a leftist is "someone I don't like or don't approve of."

    Replies: @A123

    So the defining characteristic of leftism is support for Wall Street? That’s a fascinating way of looking at things. If you hold extreme right-wing views you’re a leftist? Because left is right and right is left.

    OK, Zoomer… Perhaps you are just too young to see it

    One of the Orwellian mantras of the Fake Stream Media is, “left is right and right is left.”. Outlets like Ted Turner’s CNN intentionally obscure the the concepts of the left/right spectrum. They like the authoritarian, Wall Street ‘left’.

    Would you like some examples?

    The Elite 1 % in the U.S. is far ‘left’ and believes in Globalist SJW ideals like open borders. It is a key Wall Street ‘left’ tactic to suppress wages and keep the Christian, Main Street American ‘right’ too weak to oppose them.

    An Elite 1% Democrat was in the White House for every modern, major war the U.S. has joined. The only exception is Iraq. The pro-war Globalists penetrated the GOP with “GW”. That phenomenon is now over. The NeoConDemocrats have returned to their traditional Globalist DNC home. Pro-war Biden will have troops on the ground in the Ukraine to protect his Burisma follies. A pro-war ‘left’ is the historical norm.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @A123


    OK, Zoomer… Perhaps you are just too young to see it
     
    You're wrong about that as well. I'm definitely no Zoomer. You're wrong by several decades.

    The Elite 1 % in the U.S. is far ‘left’ and believes in Globalist SJW ideals like open borders.
     
    Globalism is a right-wing ideology. The Elite 1 % in the U.S. supports globalism because it's good for corporate profits. They support open borders because it's good for corporate profits. How exactly does that make them far left?

    The Elite 1 % supports SJWism because it's a useful distraction for them. It distracts people from the obvious truth that their agenda is to increase corporate profits and their own wealth. How exactly does that make them far left?

    Replies: @iffen, @A123

  18. @indocon
    @216

    Well well see what good old Charlie is tweeting tonight:

    "American citizens, not foreign nationals or illegals should get precedence for testing and treatment

    People who broke into our country shouldn’t flood it our medical system"

    https://twitter.com/search?q=Charlie%20kirk&src=typed_query

    Replies: @216, @bro3886

    Right now corona virus is a disease of the Mexican wealthy, soon it will spread to the masses, and when it does they will rush to the border for treatment, at least in the North. Nobody’s talking about this and the authorities are probably not preparing for it. Get ready to foot the bill, in more ways than one.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @bro3886


    Get ready to foot the bill, in more ways than one.
     
    As in, "foot the Guillermo"?

    Sorry, I'm channeling my inner Reg Caesar.
  19. @bro3886
    @indocon

    Right now corona virus is a disease of the Mexican wealthy, soon it will spread to the masses, and when it does they will rush to the border for treatment, at least in the North. Nobody's talking about this and the authorities are probably not preparing for it. Get ready to foot the bill, in more ways than one.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    Get ready to foot the bill, in more ways than one.

    As in, “foot the Guillermo”?

    Sorry, I’m channeling my inner Reg Caesar.

  20. @A123
    @dfordoom


    So the defining characteristic of leftism is support for Wall Street? That’s a fascinating way of looking at things. If you hold extreme right-wing views you’re a leftist? Because left is right and right is left.
     
    OK, Zoomer... Perhaps you are just too young to see it

    One of the Orwellian mantras of the Fake Stream Media is, "left is right and right is left.". Outlets like Ted Turner's CNN intentionally obscure the the concepts of the left/right spectrum. They like the authoritarian, Wall Street 'left'.

    Would you like some examples?

    The Elite 1 % in the U.S. is far 'left' and believes in Globalist SJW ideals like open borders. It is a key Wall Street 'left' tactic to suppress wages and keep the Christian, Main Street American 'right' too weak to oppose them.

    An Elite 1% Democrat was in the White House for every modern, major war the U.S. has joined. The only exception is Iraq. The pro-war Globalists penetrated the GOP with "GW". That phenomenon is now over. The NeoConDemocrats have returned to their traditional Globalist DNC home. Pro-war Biden will have troops on the ground in the Ukraine to protect his Burisma follies. A pro-war 'left' is the historical norm.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @dfordoom

    OK, Zoomer… Perhaps you are just too young to see it

    You’re wrong about that as well. I’m definitely no Zoomer. You’re wrong by several decades.

    The Elite 1 % in the U.S. is far ‘left’ and believes in Globalist SJW ideals like open borders.

    Globalism is a right-wing ideology. The Elite 1 % in the U.S. supports globalism because it’s good for corporate profits. They support open borders because it’s good for corporate profits. How exactly does that make them far left?

    The Elite 1 % supports SJWism because it’s a useful distraction for them. It distracts people from the obvious truth that their agenda is to increase corporate profits and their own wealth. How exactly does that make them far left?

    • Replies: @iffen
    @dfordoom

    You tell'em doom.

    , @A123
    @dfordoom

    Left/Right as a one dimensional spectrum is admittedly problematic, but as long as that is the benchmark everyone is stuck with it.


    The Elite 1 % supports SJWism because it’s a useful distraction for them. It distracts people from the obvious truth that their agenda is to increase corporate profits and their own wealth. How exactly does that make them far left?
     
    Your claim that SJW is a distraction does not hold up. SJW activism is integral to the Elite 1% Globalist value extraction method. The Elite 1% supports SJW 'leftist' open borders to maximize the power of 'leftist' Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to 'leftist' Wall Street banks owned by the Elite 'Left Globalist' 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to 'left' Globalist open borders theology, be anything but 'left'?
    ____

    Let's try a different tack.

    Globalism and Populism are diametrically opposed. As long as we are confined to a Left/Right scale:
    -- One must be Left
    -- One must be Right

    Is your definition that:
    -- Right = Elite 1% Multicultural Globalism
    -- Left = Main Street 99% Christian Populism

    If so, then:
    -- The open borders DNC = Right
    -- President Trump = Left

    Such a definition, while internally consistent for Iffen and yourself, is likely to make it hard for most people to follow your Left/Right usage.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @anon, @dfordoom

  21. @dfordoom
    @A123


    OK, Zoomer… Perhaps you are just too young to see it
     
    You're wrong about that as well. I'm definitely no Zoomer. You're wrong by several decades.

    The Elite 1 % in the U.S. is far ‘left’ and believes in Globalist SJW ideals like open borders.
     
    Globalism is a right-wing ideology. The Elite 1 % in the U.S. supports globalism because it's good for corporate profits. They support open borders because it's good for corporate profits. How exactly does that make them far left?

    The Elite 1 % supports SJWism because it's a useful distraction for them. It distracts people from the obvious truth that their agenda is to increase corporate profits and their own wealth. How exactly does that make them far left?

    Replies: @iffen, @A123

    You tell’em doom.

  22. Do I think the current executive is transitional? No. There is no evidence that the anyone inside or outside the admin will hold the party together on any kind of basic nationalist agenda. I think anyone who thinks so is fooling themselves. The party did not get more seats but less during the last election. There was mo blue wave, but the candidates that the current executive did not support and lost to democrats are serious losses.

    There’s no reason to believe that the republicans will not simply pick up where they left off. Whether the anger at the failures of this admin are enough to sustain a barrier to backpedaling is yet to be determined. I remain committed to one the agenda i voted for. If this executive has caved on so much of the same, I find it a tough hill to climb that there is anyone on board with the backbone of the belief system to carry on.

    As for compromises, the current executive made too many too soon in office and did so on major issues.

    Example: DACA — aside from the appointments, his choice to bend on that issue — a disastrous turn. Coupled with the evidence that he himself hires illegals or H1 immigrants, — the stress tolerance level is simply at a point where few if any excuses will suffice. The support he had from the public was substantial on immigration from both sides . . .

    I could point out other issues such as underwriting WS . . .

    Transitioning is not visible. I see no effort to remold the party into anything representing the agenda for which he was elected.

    No sale here.

    I have made plenty of room for the hostile environment. And I will not make

  23. @dfordoom
    @A123


    OK, Zoomer… Perhaps you are just too young to see it
     
    You're wrong about that as well. I'm definitely no Zoomer. You're wrong by several decades.

    The Elite 1 % in the U.S. is far ‘left’ and believes in Globalist SJW ideals like open borders.
     
    Globalism is a right-wing ideology. The Elite 1 % in the U.S. supports globalism because it's good for corporate profits. They support open borders because it's good for corporate profits. How exactly does that make them far left?

    The Elite 1 % supports SJWism because it's a useful distraction for them. It distracts people from the obvious truth that their agenda is to increase corporate profits and their own wealth. How exactly does that make them far left?

    Replies: @iffen, @A123

    Left/Right as a one dimensional spectrum is admittedly problematic, but as long as that is the benchmark everyone is stuck with it.

    The Elite 1 % supports SJWism because it’s a useful distraction for them. It distracts people from the obvious truth that their agenda is to increase corporate profits and their own wealth. How exactly does that make them far left?

    Your claim that SJW is a distraction does not hold up. SJW activism is integral to the Elite 1% Globalist value extraction method. The Elite 1% supports SJW ‘leftist’ open borders to maximize the power of ‘leftist’ Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to ‘leftist’ Wall Street banks owned by the Elite ‘Left Globalist’ 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘left’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘left’?
    ____

    Let’s try a different tack.

    Globalism and Populism are diametrically opposed. As long as we are confined to a Left/Right scale:
    — One must be Left
    — One must be Right

    Is your definition that:
    — Right = Elite 1% Multicultural Globalism
    — Left = Main Street 99% Christian Populism

    If so, then:
    — The open borders DNC = Right
    — President Trump = Left

    Such a definition, while internally consistent for Iffen and yourself, is likely to make it hard for most people to follow your Left/Right usage.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @anon
    @A123

    Left/Right as a one dimensional spectrum is admittedly problematic, but as long as that is the benchmark everyone is stuck with it.

    It isn't a benchmark, it's a lazy way to avoid thinking. Hence the popularity with journolists, who are uneducated, ignorant and incurious as a rule. Also they tend to be state-worshipping hiveminded bugmen who like to pretend they are bold free-thinkers.

    There have been multi-dimensional ways of describing a polity for years and years. Here is one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pournelle_chart_color.gif

    It is from a doctoral dissertation circal 1963.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pournelle_chart

    Replies: @res

    , @dfordoom
    @A123


    The Elite 1% supports SJW ‘leftist’ open borders to maximize the power of ‘leftist’ Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to ‘leftist’ Wall Street banks owned by the Elite ‘Left Globalist’ 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘left’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘left’?
     
    The Elite 1% supports SJW ‘rightist’ open borders to maximize the power of ‘rightist’ Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to ‘rightist’ Wall Street banks owned by the Elite ‘Right Globalist’ 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘rightist’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘right’?

    FIFY. No charge.

    Replies: @A123

  24. anon[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @A123
    @dfordoom

    Left/Right as a one dimensional spectrum is admittedly problematic, but as long as that is the benchmark everyone is stuck with it.


    The Elite 1 % supports SJWism because it’s a useful distraction for them. It distracts people from the obvious truth that their agenda is to increase corporate profits and their own wealth. How exactly does that make them far left?
     
    Your claim that SJW is a distraction does not hold up. SJW activism is integral to the Elite 1% Globalist value extraction method. The Elite 1% supports SJW 'leftist' open borders to maximize the power of 'leftist' Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to 'leftist' Wall Street banks owned by the Elite 'Left Globalist' 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to 'left' Globalist open borders theology, be anything but 'left'?
    ____

    Let's try a different tack.

    Globalism and Populism are diametrically opposed. As long as we are confined to a Left/Right scale:
    -- One must be Left
    -- One must be Right

    Is your definition that:
    -- Right = Elite 1% Multicultural Globalism
    -- Left = Main Street 99% Christian Populism

    If so, then:
    -- The open borders DNC = Right
    -- President Trump = Left

    Such a definition, while internally consistent for Iffen and yourself, is likely to make it hard for most people to follow your Left/Right usage.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @anon, @dfordoom

    Left/Right as a one dimensional spectrum is admittedly problematic, but as long as that is the benchmark everyone is stuck with it.

    It isn’t a benchmark, it’s a lazy way to avoid thinking. Hence the popularity with journolists, who are uneducated, ignorant and incurious as a rule. Also they tend to be state-worshipping hiveminded bugmen who like to pretend they are bold free-thinkers.

    There have been multi-dimensional ways of describing a polity for years and years. Here is one:

    It is from a doctoral dissertation circal 1963.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pournelle_chart

    • Replies: @res
    @anon

    Here is a discussion of many different two dimensional representations proposed over the years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

    Replies: @A123

  25. People are seriously talking about Governor Cuomo being drafted for the Dem Candidate.

    How does a fellow New Yawker fare against Trump? He is not the affable buffoon plain Vanilla that Biden is after all. He’ll rub lots of voters the wrong way.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Anon

    Count me among the highly skeptical.

  26. @A123
    @dfordoom

    Left/Right as a one dimensional spectrum is admittedly problematic, but as long as that is the benchmark everyone is stuck with it.


    The Elite 1 % supports SJWism because it’s a useful distraction for them. It distracts people from the obvious truth that their agenda is to increase corporate profits and their own wealth. How exactly does that make them far left?
     
    Your claim that SJW is a distraction does not hold up. SJW activism is integral to the Elite 1% Globalist value extraction method. The Elite 1% supports SJW 'leftist' open borders to maximize the power of 'leftist' Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to 'leftist' Wall Street banks owned by the Elite 'Left Globalist' 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to 'left' Globalist open borders theology, be anything but 'left'?
    ____

    Let's try a different tack.

    Globalism and Populism are diametrically opposed. As long as we are confined to a Left/Right scale:
    -- One must be Left
    -- One must be Right

    Is your definition that:
    -- Right = Elite 1% Multicultural Globalism
    -- Left = Main Street 99% Christian Populism

    If so, then:
    -- The open borders DNC = Right
    -- President Trump = Left

    Such a definition, while internally consistent for Iffen and yourself, is likely to make it hard for most people to follow your Left/Right usage.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @anon, @dfordoom

    The Elite 1% supports SJW ‘leftist’ open borders to maximize the power of ‘leftist’ Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to ‘leftist’ Wall Street banks owned by the Elite ‘Left Globalist’ 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘left’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘left’?

    The Elite 1% supports SJW ‘rightist’ open borders to maximize the power of ‘rightist’ Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to ‘rightist’ Wall Street banks owned by the Elite ‘Right Globalist’ 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘rightist’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘right’?

    FIFY. No charge.

    • Replies: @A123
    @dfordoom


    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘rightist’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘right’?
     
    There is no official force that gets to set the definition of Right and Left, so you can define your personal standard as long as you use it consistently. In your lexicion, the sides are:

    -- Right = Globalism -- Open Borders 1% Elite Multiculturalists that enrich corporate & banking interests.
    -- Left = Populism -- Main Street 99% Christians that want to recapture the standard of living for U.S. Citizens.

    There are conceptual touch points between Populism supporting the middle class and circa 1800's Labour philosophy. Populism stands for reducing/eliminating immigration to increase wages. I even see your point that the DNC are now static Conservatives while the GOP is the Progressive change agent.

    -- DNC Right, trying to conserve the current Elite Globalist system.
    -- GOP Left, trying to progress/change the system towards Populism.

    However, you are *way ahead* of everyone else, and are going to have to spend a great deal of time explaining the new GOP Left Populist vs. DNC Right Globalist scale.

    PEACE 😷
  27. @clintwestwood
    So the GOP is going to adopt some statist nanny horseshit because Romney=bad establishment man?

    Replies: @James Braxton

    Maybe that is what their voters want.

    Plus guns and a big beautiful wall.

  28. @anon
    @A123

    Left/Right as a one dimensional spectrum is admittedly problematic, but as long as that is the benchmark everyone is stuck with it.

    It isn't a benchmark, it's a lazy way to avoid thinking. Hence the popularity with journolists, who are uneducated, ignorant and incurious as a rule. Also they tend to be state-worshipping hiveminded bugmen who like to pretend they are bold free-thinkers.

    There have been multi-dimensional ways of describing a polity for years and years. Here is one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pournelle_chart_color.gif

    It is from a doctoral dissertation circal 1963.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pournelle_chart

    Replies: @res

    Here is a discussion of many different two dimensional representations proposed over the years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

    • Replies: @A123
    @res

    Both you and Anon327, make accurate points.

    There are better multidimensional scales. However, there does not seem to be any popular will to ditch the Left/Right scale that superficially appears to align with the two party system in the U.S.

    Trying to force a new system on an unwilling American people is not very fruitful. Remember the attempt to 'Go Metric'? We still have miles, yards, feet, pounds, ounces, and degrees Fahrenheit.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @res

  29. @dfordoom
    @A123


    The Elite 1% supports SJW ‘leftist’ open borders to maximize the power of ‘leftist’ Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to ‘leftist’ Wall Street banks owned by the Elite ‘Left Globalist’ 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘left’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘left’?
     
    The Elite 1% supports SJW ‘rightist’ open borders to maximize the power of ‘rightist’ Corporate exploitation that in turn funnel profits back to ‘rightist’ Wall Street banks owned by the Elite ‘Right Globalist’ 1%.

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘rightist’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘right’?

    FIFY. No charge.

    Replies: @A123

    How could a business model wholly dependant on devotion to ‘rightist’ Globalist open borders theology, be anything but ‘right’?

    There is no official force that gets to set the definition of Right and Left, so you can define your personal standard as long as you use it consistently. In your lexicion, the sides are:

    — Right = Globalism — Open Borders 1% Elite Multiculturalists that enrich corporate & banking interests.
    — Left = Populism — Main Street 99% Christians that want to recapture the standard of living for U.S. Citizens.

    There are conceptual touch points between Populism supporting the middle class and circa 1800’s Labour philosophy. Populism stands for reducing/eliminating immigration to increase wages. I even see your point that the DNC are now static Conservatives while the GOP is the Progressive change agent.

    — DNC Right, trying to conserve the current Elite Globalist system.
    — GOP Left, trying to progress/change the system towards Populism.

    However, you are *way ahead* of everyone else, and are going to have to spend a great deal of time explaining the new GOP Left Populist vs. DNC Right Globalist scale.

    PEACE 😷

  30. @res
    @anon

    Here is a discussion of many different two dimensional representations proposed over the years.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum

    Replies: @A123

    Both you and Anon327, make accurate points.

    There are better multidimensional scales. However, there does not seem to be any popular will to ditch the Left/Right scale that superficially appears to align with the two party system in the U.S.

    Trying to force a new system on an unwilling American people is not very fruitful. Remember the attempt to ‘Go Metric’? We still have miles, yards, feet, pounds, ounces, and degrees Fahrenheit.

    PEACE 😷

    • Replies: @res
    @A123

    Agree. One point worth thinking about in this context is that the parties are much better aligned with the liberal/conservative axis today than was the case historically. This is a major point in

    https://www.amazon.com/Second-Civil-War-Partisanship-Washington/dp/1594201390

  31. @A123
    @res

    Both you and Anon327, make accurate points.

    There are better multidimensional scales. However, there does not seem to be any popular will to ditch the Left/Right scale that superficially appears to align with the two party system in the U.S.

    Trying to force a new system on an unwilling American people is not very fruitful. Remember the attempt to 'Go Metric'? We still have miles, yards, feet, pounds, ounces, and degrees Fahrenheit.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @res

    Agree. One point worth thinking about in this context is that the parties are much better aligned with the liberal/conservative axis today than was the case historically. This is a major point in

  32. @216

    Now, I don’t put it beyond the K-Street boys to try and force another Romney type down everybody’s throats down the line, should Trump lose this year. But he won’t be going anywhere-he’ll probably be mortally wounded if not blocked by an insurgency in the primary, and he’ll definitely lose the election if he gets that far.
     
    Should we underestimate the establishment at our peril?

    The aspect of the GOP policies which are so unpopular is the subservience to the wealthy. Even a brisk moderation on this by Trump flipped four Midwestern states.

    Imagine if C Kirk's funders admit defeat on their white whale of "zero capital gains taxes".

    The current administration has already caved on Woke, it's probable that the base will as well.

    Replies: @indocon, @nebulafox, @Mr. XYZ, @Audacious Epigone

    Maybe. On the other hand, the Republican electorate clearly led the GOPe–kicking and screaming–to much tougher rhetoric on illegal immigration, and Wokiness isn’t changing that.

  33. @A123
    Nebulafox is correct.

    Trump's presidency has started the process of clearing dead weight from the GOP including both:
    --- Aggressive NeoConDemocrats
    --- Deep State pro-Immigration Wall Street-ers

    Trump is a President not a King. He has had to make compromises that limit the speed of the transformation. And, he cannot simultaneously deal with every issue created by 30+ years of Globalism.
    ____

    This is part of a larger movement against the PC ultra-left that wields too much power at many levels. UN/NWO IslamoGlobalism is losing to Christian Populism in Europe.

    WUHAN-19 will accelerate Populism across the globe. It exposed the dangers of long and fragile supply chains. And, it proves that China's near monopoly in critical areas of manufacturing is a threat to the security of many nations.
    ____

    The real test for the U.S. will be 2024. The corrupt left of the GOP will try to nominate another Romney to kill the transformation.

    PEACE 😷

    Replies: @iffen, @UK, @Audacious Epigone

    While I’m pessimistic on a lot of things, I’m not on the top of the Republican ticket. Trump has utterly humiliated the Never Trump faction of the GOP. Bill Weld, Joe Walsh, Mark Sanford–am I missing anyone else?–have exposed how there is no support for Romney-Republicanism among the electorate anymore. The process in 2016 hasn’t reversed, it’s been completed. And it wasn’t even close in 2016 if we count Ted Cruz as representing a similar strain of anti-Romneyism.

  34. @Anon
    People are seriously talking about Governor Cuomo being drafted for the Dem Candidate.

    How does a fellow New Yawker fare against Trump? He is not the affable buffoon plain Vanilla that Biden is after all. He'll rub lots of voters the wrong way.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Count me among the highly skeptical.

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