Wency on how entrepreneurial evangelicals have outhustled corporate Catholics. Profiting from (and for!) the prophet:
A disciplined denomination ought to be able to staff itself better than a collection of guys trying to outhustle one another for congregants and donations. But in practice you get better pastors with the Evangelical model — that hustling at least draws leaders who can lead and sermonize. The Catholic and Mainline models both seem to be almost totally without discipline; anyone who finishes seminary more or less gets a job for life despite being incompetent or a total misfit for the job, and perhaps despite breaking some denominational rules or even breaking the law.
It’s drying up for both. A shame, for we could use as many good explications of how the new covenant meant an end to offering sacrifices as the country prepares to offer up a human sacrifice in another futile attempt to gain a fleeting spot of atonement for the perceived collective sins of white America.
Is the spirit of 1776 merely the cult of self by a different name? Dfordoom:
The cult of self is not only common, it’s the basis of the current model of western civilisation that began in the mid-18th century.
“Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law” (which was formulated by Aleister Crowley) is not really much different from “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”. The United States was the first nation to be established purely on the cult of self.
And capitalism is a system that is based on abandoning any concept of morality or transcendence.
So you could describe the current model of western civilisation as fundamentally luciferian. Whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing depends on your point of view.
Chrisnonymous on why the expectation that a man’s wife will also be his best friend may be counterproductive:
If you are giving advice to a young man, I think “look for your best friend to marry” is bad advice. For one thing, it’s impossible for men and women to plumb the depths of their relationship fully without experiencing sex and co-habitation, both of which theoretically come after the decision to get married.
Much better than “friendship” as a criterion for marriage are things like (1) similar sense of humor, (2) similar family background, (3) stable family background, (4) similar expectations about the future, (5) similar attitudes to money and privacy…etc.
As for whether you should expect your wife to become your best friend, that also I would not say to a young man. Many men and women have dissimilar interests, and that is fine, but it also makes it very difficult to be “friends” in the way a man could be “friends” with a man of similar interests. In marriage, loyalty must be total and absolute. Friendships can suffer different degrees and contexts of loyalty. Interests, loyalty–there are many such differences between marriage and friendship that make the expectation of your wife being your best friend not very realistic or necessary.
The excerpt is part of a discussion thread in which the reliably astute Twinkie offers a different perspective in a series of highly recommended comments.