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It does not look upon them favorably. Excepting the proper noun “White House” and an instance in reference to the Ryan White fund, the following excerpts exhaustively contextualize contemporary official Democrat doctrine on whites and whiteness:

We will give hate no safe harbor. We will never amplify or legitimize the voices of bigotry, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, or white supremacy. Democrats will protect and promote the equal rights of all our citizens—women, LGBTQ+ people, religious minorities, people with disabilities, Native Americans, and all who have been discriminated against in too many ways and for too many generations.

The string “white” makes 23 appearances in the document but is notably absent from the list of “all our citizens”.

Median incomes are lower and poverty rates are higher for Black Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, and some Asian Americans
and Pacific Islanders, compared to median white households.

Some Asians? What about most Asians? There are some blacks and some Latinos who have higher median incomes and lower poverty rates than whites, too.

We cannot hope to raise wages without taking on the profound racial biases at work in our employment system. The wage gap between Black workers and white workers is higher today than it was 20 years ago. It takes a typical Black woman 19 months to earn what a typical white man earns in 12 months—and for typical Latinas and Native American women, it takes almost two years.

No word on how long it takes the typical Asian woman to earn what the typical white man earns in a year.

Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, the uninsured rate was nearly three times higher for Latinos and nearly twice as high for Black Americans as it was for whites. Some segments of the Asian American and Pacific Islander population faced uninsured rates rivaling those of Black Americans and Latinos, and more than one in five Native Americans and Alaska Natives was uninsured. Black children are far more likely than white children to suffer from asthma. Latinos, Native Americans, Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, and Black Americans are diagnosed with diabetes at higher rates than whites.

Lacking insurance, having asthma, or being diagnosed with diabetes are sad and unfortunate things. Working to alleviate those conditions is a noble endeavor. How about the most all-encompassing measure, life expectancy? On average, Hispanics live nearly four years longer than whites do. Asians live over seven years longer.

If Asians get to put forth the Hmong for sufferance sympathy, are whites allowed to have Scots-Irish Appalachians represent them? The median income in overwhelmingly white West Virginia is lower than the median income is for Latinos and American Indians nationwide.

Black women are more than three times as likely to die from complications of pregnancy and childbirth compared to white women.

They are also three times as likely to die from complications of pregnancy and childbirth compared to Hispanic and Asian women, who have pregnancy-related death rates at parity with white women.

President Trump’s words and actions have given safe harbor and encouragement to bigots, anti-Semites, Islamophobes, and white supremacists.

Has there ever been a more pro-Jewish president than Donald Trump? My impression is that anti-Semites despise him.

In the context of law, “safe harbor” refers to a legal provision protecting against liability. To the extent Trump is shielding these miscreants as they engage in illegal activity, more power to the DNC for holding him and them to account for it. If the “safe harbor” being alluded to is the first amendment of the US Constitution, on the other hand…

The extreme gap in household wealth and income between people of color—especially Black Americans, Latinos, and Native Americans—and white families is hurting our working class and holding our country back.

Is the gap between white and Asian Americans correspondingly helping? If all the other gaps were as unfavorable for whites as the white-Asian gap is, would the objective have been met? One wonders how “our working class” whites feel about this. One outside the DNC drafting committee, that is.

We will confront white nationalist terrorism and combat hate crimes perpetrated against religious minorities.

Let’s do one better and combat crimes of all kinds perpetrated against religious minorities, religious majorities, the irreligious, and everyone in between. Perhaps we can begin by combating crimes perpetrated against storefront businesses in many of our major cities.

Each year, the United States spends $23 billion more on schools in predominantly white districts than in non-white districts.

Is this on a per capita basis? If it’s merely descriptive in absolute terms, it doesn’t clarify much since there are more “predominantly white districts” than there are non-white ones. Four of the five lowest per capita spending school districts in the country are in Idaho. Of the five highest per spending school districts in the country, by contrast, three are in New Jersey, one is in New York, and one is the District of Columbia.

In any event, the US spends the fifth most money per student of all the countries in the world. Whatever the answer, money isn’t it.

We will root out systemic racism from our military justice system, where black service members are twice as likely as white ones to face court-martial.

Are black (they forgot to capitalize the “b” here) service members twice as likely or more to engage in activities deserving of court-martial? If so, it sounds like the system is functioning well enough. If not, then three cheers for deracination.

Democrats recognize that the threat landscape has evolved dramatically since September 11. Our counterterrorism priorities, footprint, and tools should shift accordingly, including to respond to the growing threat from white supremacist and other right-wing terrorist groups.

They’re the ones killing people in the streets and burning down government buildings, so this makes sense. It wouldn’t have in 1995, of course, but it does today!

 
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  1. I’ve got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists, but to pretend that this is the “real” problem America’s been facing lately shows a fundamental devotion to ideology over reality. It ain’t skinheads that have been setting cities and businesses-many of them minority owned-alight these last few months, exacerbating a pandemic in the process.

    The irony is, the way the Left wants to handle immigration, multiculturalism, and race in general is more likely than anything else to make white racial consciousness a stronger political reality. “Identity politics for me, but not for thee” is a strategy out of touch with human nature in the best of times (which these certainly aren’t), but they’ve gone from indirectly sowing the seeds of that while stupidly spiking the football to actively encouraging it. How do they think this is going to end? Most white people, like most normal people of every race, aren’t steeped in critical race theory. They are not going to draw the conclusions the Left seems to expect.

    Put more crudely: if you don’t want whites to behave like just any other racial block in politics, don’t engineer demographics so that they are one.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational, Richard B
    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @nebulafox

    Simply put, this is a drive to legal codification of institutionalized racism against whites as well as encouragement for extra-judicial racism toward the latter. It is monstrous.

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it. Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

    One thing is certain - this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @Jane Plain, @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

    , @Richard B
    @nebulafox


    I’ve got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists
     
    The question to ask is,

    What is there in the world that the words White Nationalists and White Supremacists directs us to locate?
     
    Can you point to a specific and identifiable group?

    Does it have an HQ?

    Is it united around an organizing principle with clear and attainable objectives?

    Do they pose a threat to our basic freedoms?

    In short, what exactly is one talking about when they use those words? Anything?

    If so, they should have no problem at all answering the above questions.

    If not, why are they talking?

    I'm not saying they shouldn't talk.

    I think it's great that they do.

    Because they more they do, the more they expose themselves as either extremely cynical and dishonest, or, as pathologicaly naive.

    Next question would be,


    Exactly what are we talking about when we use the word Supremacist?
     
    Certainly one answer would be, that a supremacist not only demands

    1. to be placed above criticism
    2. loved unconditionally
    3. blindly obeyed

    but actually has the power to effecuate those insane demands.

    From this perspective there are clearly supremacists in the USA.

    But they're not White.

    Replies: @Rosie

    , @Pop Warner
    @nebulafox


    I’ve got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists
     
    I'll have a hard time showing sympathy for you when they line you up against a wall for being an alleged white supremacist (you do comment here, after all). White nationalists are by far the most persecuted group in the country, getting thrown in prison for defending themselves against violence if not for merely having an opinion. The founders and almost every American president up until Jimmy Carter were white supremacists, not just by today's standards but by the very definition of the term. They seemed to understand better than anyone today what would happen if whites weren't in direct control and putting their interests first. I doubt any would be shocked by the current democratic platform except for the fact that it came from the democrats and not Republicans

    Replies: @anon, @songbird

  2. Has there ever been a more pro-Jewish president than Donald Trump? My impression is that anti-Semites despise him.

    Well, this website is the place to test this theory. Surely you have observed how much of that there is over here.

    Most of the anti-Jewish commenters here hate Kushner, and to some extent Ivanka, but not The Donald.

    Trump remains extremely popular among normal Republicans and more popular among Independents than most prior Republicans for over a generation.

    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
  3. https://www.scribd.com/document/471102642/Occupy-Nulu-Demands

    As one local store owner was told: “Better put the letter on the door so your business is not f*cked with.”

    In 2020Logic, you both better be aware of what can happen to you if you don’t agree to these demands, but you also are clearly paranoid if you think it is a “threat”. Just like how Antifa doesn’t supposedly exist, yet what they do is also awesome.

  4. @nebulafox
    I've got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists, but to pretend that this is the "real" problem America's been facing lately shows a fundamental devotion to ideology over reality. It ain't skinheads that have been setting cities and businesses-many of them minority owned-alight these last few months, exacerbating a pandemic in the process.

    The irony is, the way the Left wants to handle immigration, multiculturalism, and race in general is more likely than anything else to make white racial consciousness a stronger political reality. "Identity politics for me, but not for thee" is a strategy out of touch with human nature in the best of times (which these certainly aren't), but they've gone from indirectly sowing the seeds of that while stupidly spiking the football to actively encouraging it. How do they think this is going to end? Most white people, like most normal people of every race, aren't steeped in critical race theory. They are not going to draw the conclusions the Left seems to expect.

    Put more crudely: if you don't want whites to behave like just any other racial block in politics, don't engineer demographics so that they are one.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Richard B, @Pop Warner

    Simply put, this is a drive to legal codification of institutionalized racism against whites as well as encouragement for extra-judicial racism toward the latter. It is monstrous.

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it. Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

    One thing is certain – this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Twinkie


    One thing is certain – this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?
     
    I don't know who will benefit.  But it won't be me and mine, so I hate anyone who promotes it.
    , @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    Oh, no question it is monstrous. What I sincerely doubt is that this is going to turn out at all how they expect it will for long. Check out comments on YouTube sometime for the videos of BLMers attacking cars or blocking freeways: much more reliable barometer of hoi polloi opinion than the BlueChecks on Twitter. Lot of road pizza jokes.

    Even if Biden doesn't die in office, he's almost certainly going to implement the agenda of whoever is around him given his age and questionable mental health, so I expect whoever the VP is will have more authority than any VP since Bush in the late '80s, possibly Nixon in the '50s. The danger of this cannot be overstated.

    >The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.

    To prove that they aren't BadWhites, of course. They aren't scared that they might not make it: they do not think deeply enough to be scared, or much else beyond genuinely enthusiastic. Decades of anti-empiricism in schools have their role behind this.

    It's a status game to them, deep down. This in the context of pandemics, riots, and mass unemployment. Profoundly disgusting.

    > Cui bono?

    Wouldn't go so far as to say nobody has profited from the riots: Jeff Bezos profits immensely from small-scale retailers going up in smoke, for one. He can afford the privatized security that will be the norm as the police get defunded, so he's good.

    That being said, I don't think there's any organized conspiracy at work. It's Schelling points in action. Enough people acting in a vaguely similar direction does the job.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Jane Plain
    @Twinkie


    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.
     
    Let me try to answer this question. Bear in mind that to do so, I have to play devil's advocate a bit and I ask you to put yourself in the mind of a white liberal. Not a Robin DiAngelo loony, but a normie. I know these people. I think a lot of people on these boards who claim they are big on reality don't understand that America is YUGE and many whites grow up in mostly white areas.

    They come to Eastern Seaboard Metropolis from Somewhere Nice And White, and have NO experience with blacks or any other kind of diversity other than maybe a John McWorther type they played lacrosse with in high school.


    If you have zero experience with blacks, and you have a smattering of American history, you will be set up to sympathize with them. Again - I don't share this, you don't - but put yourself in their shoes.


    Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

     

    You're completely exaggerating, or rather distorting, how they see it. They don't see the flagellating. You focus on that. They don't. They just don't see this. They aren't washing the feet of blacks, or wearing chains, or any of that.

    I've seen this on the Internet. I don't see this in real life. So just stop focusing on that. They see BLM as a continuation of the civil rights movement.

    I don't agree with the normie-white-liberal position, I'm just trying to explain it. Some of them do wise up after having terrible experiences with blacks. In fact many do, although admitting that IQ is partly heritable is too much of a paradigm shift for them. They move away when they have kids and grumble about "good schools," and nothing ever gets settled.

    Replies: @Dumbo

    , @dfordoom
    @Twinkie


    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.
     
    Maybe they assume it's all window-dressing and empty rhetoric. Just virtue-signalling. They assume they'll still be living in their nice safe neighbourhoods and sending their kids to "good schools" full of white and Asian kids. They don't believe it will make the slightest difference to their lives.

    And they're probably correct. Very little will change. A few more badwhites will get cancelled. More money will be allocated to social programs that will provide nice comfortable jobs for goodwhites.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Twinkie

    Before the US becomes "majority-minority", the Democrat party will become so. We're on the cusp now, with n-H whites making up just over half of all Democrat voters. Those of us on the other side of the divide will watch with keen interest to see how that plays out.

  5. Each year, the United States spends $23 billion more on schools in predominantly white districts than in non-white districts.

    Is this on a per capita basis? If it’s merely descriptive in absolute terms, it doesn’t clarify much since there are more “predominantly white districts” than there are non-white ones. Four of the five lowest per capita spending school districts in the country are in Idaho. Of the five highest per spending school districts in the country, by contrast, three are in New Jersey, one is in New York, and one is the District of Columbia.

    In any event, the US spends the fifth most money per student of all the countries in the world. Whatever the answer, money isn’t it.

    This is one of the HateFacts that our society (academia and media, actually) refuse to acknowledge.

    White districts spending far less per capita achieve far more… and that is alleged to be White Privilege/Supremacy.

    It is all a pernicious lie, and anyone pushing it should be removed from this country BAMN.  The closest border is just six feet away (direction downward).

  6. @Twinkie
    @nebulafox

    Simply put, this is a drive to legal codification of institutionalized racism against whites as well as encouragement for extra-judicial racism toward the latter. It is monstrous.

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it. Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

    One thing is certain - this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @Jane Plain, @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

    One thing is certain – this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?

    I don’t know who will benefit.  But it won’t be me and mine, so I hate anyone who promotes it.

  7. @Twinkie
    @nebulafox

    Simply put, this is a drive to legal codification of institutionalized racism against whites as well as encouragement for extra-judicial racism toward the latter. It is monstrous.

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it. Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

    One thing is certain - this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @Jane Plain, @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

    Oh, no question it is monstrous. What I sincerely doubt is that this is going to turn out at all how they expect it will for long. Check out comments on YouTube sometime for the videos of BLMers attacking cars or blocking freeways: much more reliable barometer of hoi polloi opinion than the BlueChecks on Twitter. Lot of road pizza jokes.

    Even if Biden doesn’t die in office, he’s almost certainly going to implement the agenda of whoever is around him given his age and questionable mental health, so I expect whoever the VP is will have more authority than any VP since Bush in the late ’80s, possibly Nixon in the ’50s. The danger of this cannot be overstated.

    >The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.

    To prove that they aren’t BadWhites, of course. They aren’t scared that they might not make it: they do not think deeply enough to be scared, or much else beyond genuinely enthusiastic. Decades of anti-empiricism in schools have their role behind this.

    It’s a status game to them, deep down. This in the context of pandemics, riots, and mass unemployment. Profoundly disgusting.

    > Cui bono?

    Wouldn’t go so far as to say nobody has profited from the riots: Jeff Bezos profits immensely from small-scale retailers going up in smoke, for one. He can afford the privatized security that will be the norm as the police get defunded, so he’s good.

    That being said, I don’t think there’s any organized conspiracy at work. It’s Schelling points in action. Enough people acting in a vaguely similar direction does the job.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @nebulafox

    Bla bla bla.

    The 2 of you having a long and pompous conversation about this.

    I see it more simply: they hate me, and want me dead.

    Replies: @Anonymousse

  8. @nebulafox
    @Twinkie

    Oh, no question it is monstrous. What I sincerely doubt is that this is going to turn out at all how they expect it will for long. Check out comments on YouTube sometime for the videos of BLMers attacking cars or blocking freeways: much more reliable barometer of hoi polloi opinion than the BlueChecks on Twitter. Lot of road pizza jokes.

    Even if Biden doesn't die in office, he's almost certainly going to implement the agenda of whoever is around him given his age and questionable mental health, so I expect whoever the VP is will have more authority than any VP since Bush in the late '80s, possibly Nixon in the '50s. The danger of this cannot be overstated.

    >The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.

    To prove that they aren't BadWhites, of course. They aren't scared that they might not make it: they do not think deeply enough to be scared, or much else beyond genuinely enthusiastic. Decades of anti-empiricism in schools have their role behind this.

    It's a status game to them, deep down. This in the context of pandemics, riots, and mass unemployment. Profoundly disgusting.

    > Cui bono?

    Wouldn't go so far as to say nobody has profited from the riots: Jeff Bezos profits immensely from small-scale retailers going up in smoke, for one. He can afford the privatized security that will be the norm as the police get defunded, so he's good.

    That being said, I don't think there's any organized conspiracy at work. It's Schelling points in action. Enough people acting in a vaguely similar direction does the job.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Bla bla bla.

    The 2 of you having a long and pompous conversation about this.

    I see it more simply: they hate me, and want me dead.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    @Anonymous


    I see it more simply: they hate me, and want me dead.
     
    Oh if only that was the worst of it...

    They also want your children dragged off the reeducation camp to be taught to reject God, despise their ancestors, love buggery and hopefully aspire to have themselves turned into suicidal monsters with surgically mutilated genitals.

    Just death would be a relief

    Replies: @Dumbo

  9. Excellent critique of the text. It’s one thing to see bigotry expressed by some political or media figure; it’s quite another to see flagrant bigotry on display in text of a major party platform. Monstrous indeed. In theory I guess the plutocracy stands to benefit as Americans, by impetus of this white-disparaging “antiracism” ideology, are negatively polarized by tribal identity rather than focused on common interests of prosperity, security and peace — but seeing already how socially caustic this stuff is it seems only America’s adversaries stand to benefit.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  10. (reviewing the opposition platform)

    Cons: here’s a textual analysis, sure looks like they are not living up to their own ideals you guys

    Libs: wow, I can’t even with this garbage, we’re going to just literally kill them when we get the chance

  11. @Twinkie
    @nebulafox

    Simply put, this is a drive to legal codification of institutionalized racism against whites as well as encouragement for extra-judicial racism toward the latter. It is monstrous.

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it. Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

    One thing is certain - this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @Jane Plain, @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.

    Let me try to answer this question. Bear in mind that to do so, I have to play devil’s advocate a bit and I ask you to put yourself in the mind of a white liberal. Not a Robin DiAngelo loony, but a normie. I know these people. I think a lot of people on these boards who claim they are big on reality don’t understand that America is YUGE and many whites grow up in mostly white areas.

    They come to Eastern Seaboard Metropolis from Somewhere Nice And White, and have NO experience with blacks or any other kind of diversity other than maybe a John McWorther type they played lacrosse with in high school.

    If you have zero experience with blacks, and you have a smattering of American history, you will be set up to sympathize with them. Again – I don’t share this, you don’t – but put yourself in their shoes.

    Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

    You’re completely exaggerating, or rather distorting, how they see it. They don’t see the flagellating. You focus on that. They don’t. They just don’t see this. They aren’t washing the feet of blacks, or wearing chains, or any of that.

    I’ve seen this on the Internet. I don’t see this in real life. So just stop focusing on that. They see BLM as a continuation of the civil rights movement.

    I don’t agree with the normie-white-liberal position, I’m just trying to explain it. Some of them do wise up after having terrible experiences with blacks. In fact many do, although admitting that IQ is partly heritable is too much of a paradigm shift for them. They move away when they have kids and grumble about “good schools,” and nothing ever gets settled.

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    @Jane Plain


    They move away when they have kids and grumble about “good schools,” and nothing ever gets settled.
     
    They move to the suburbs and choose "good schools" but many continue to support BLM (at least in social media) from a safe distance.

    They figure the protests will never get to the 'burbs... Only maybe this time they will.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

  12. Any White, with a capital”W”, who votes for a dem should be institutionalized. These people aren’t even hiding the disdain they feel for the Pale. How does Biden allow this? Does the man, do any of the White dems, have any self-respect at all? This madness goes beyond the old insane altruism and straight down into the snake pit. Crazy.

    • Agree: bruce county
  13. This is all just ‘divide and conquer’ – the classic imperialist trick.

    Setting ethnic groups against one another was the standard move for the British empire, and America’s imperial masters have decided to use this tactic against its domestic population. It was inevitable that this would eventually happen after Iraq, with nobody wanting another foreign adventure to drain the coffers and the unseemly sight of coffins being hauled off the tarmac draped in the stars & stripes.

    Portland is the new Baghdad.

    I find it kind of sad that so few people in your country can see through it. The billionaires and their Washington servants must laugh at how easy public anger is deflected onto the dreaded Other.

  14. And this is just what they put on paper. Imagine what they don’t put on paper.

  15. @nebulafox
    I've got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists, but to pretend that this is the "real" problem America's been facing lately shows a fundamental devotion to ideology over reality. It ain't skinheads that have been setting cities and businesses-many of them minority owned-alight these last few months, exacerbating a pandemic in the process.

    The irony is, the way the Left wants to handle immigration, multiculturalism, and race in general is more likely than anything else to make white racial consciousness a stronger political reality. "Identity politics for me, but not for thee" is a strategy out of touch with human nature in the best of times (which these certainly aren't), but they've gone from indirectly sowing the seeds of that while stupidly spiking the football to actively encouraging it. How do they think this is going to end? Most white people, like most normal people of every race, aren't steeped in critical race theory. They are not going to draw the conclusions the Left seems to expect.

    Put more crudely: if you don't want whites to behave like just any other racial block in politics, don't engineer demographics so that they are one.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Richard B, @Pop Warner

    I’ve got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists

    The question to ask is,

    What is there in the world that the words White Nationalists and White Supremacists directs us to locate?

    Can you point to a specific and identifiable group?

    Does it have an HQ?

    Is it united around an organizing principle with clear and attainable objectives?

    Do they pose a threat to our basic freedoms?

    In short, what exactly is one talking about when they use those words? Anything?

    If so, they should have no problem at all answering the above questions.

    If not, why are they talking?

    I’m not saying they shouldn’t talk.

    I think it’s great that they do.

    Because they more they do, the more they expose themselves as either extremely cynical and dishonest, or, as pathologicaly naive.

    Next question would be,

    Exactly what are we talking about when we use the word Supremacist?

    Certainly one answer would be, that a supremacist not only demands

    1. to be placed above criticism
    2. loved unconditionally
    3. blindly obeyed

    but actually has the power to effecuate those insane demands.

    From this perspective there are clearly supremacists in the USA.

    But they’re not White.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Richard B


    From this perspective there are clearly supremacists in the USA.

    But they’re not White.
     
    By "white supremacist" they mean any White person who prefers that Whites remain a majority rather than become a minority. Majorities are supreme, after all (at least in theory).
  16. If you’re white and vote Democrat, then you’re a masochist at best and outright traitor at worst. And no, this is not a call to vote republican they have their share of white hatred too, but to vote for a party with such a hateful and borderline genocidal platform against your own race is suicide. When Texas flips and democrats are guaranteed every election it’s clear that whites no longer have democratic means of ensuring their own survival.

    And notice the capitalizations. Every other racial group gets proper noun treatment but whites do not (not even in my comment!) They want you DEAD, white man, and they’re not even hiding it anymore.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  17. @nebulafox
    I've got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists, but to pretend that this is the "real" problem America's been facing lately shows a fundamental devotion to ideology over reality. It ain't skinheads that have been setting cities and businesses-many of them minority owned-alight these last few months, exacerbating a pandemic in the process.

    The irony is, the way the Left wants to handle immigration, multiculturalism, and race in general is more likely than anything else to make white racial consciousness a stronger political reality. "Identity politics for me, but not for thee" is a strategy out of touch with human nature in the best of times (which these certainly aren't), but they've gone from indirectly sowing the seeds of that while stupidly spiking the football to actively encouraging it. How do they think this is going to end? Most white people, like most normal people of every race, aren't steeped in critical race theory. They are not going to draw the conclusions the Left seems to expect.

    Put more crudely: if you don't want whites to behave like just any other racial block in politics, don't engineer demographics so that they are one.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Richard B, @Pop Warner

    I’ve got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists

    I’ll have a hard time showing sympathy for you when they line you up against a wall for being an alleged white supremacist (you do comment here, after all). White nationalists are by far the most persecuted group in the country, getting thrown in prison for defending themselves against violence if not for merely having an opinion. The founders and almost every American president up until Jimmy Carter were white supremacists, not just by today’s standards but by the very definition of the term. They seemed to understand better than anyone today what would happen if whites weren’t in direct control and putting their interests first. I doubt any would be shocked by the current democratic platform except for the fact that it came from the democrats and not Republicans

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @anon
    @Pop Warner

    I’ll have a hard time showing sympathy for you when they line you up against a wall for being an alleged white supremacist (you do comment here, after all).

    Nebulafox is still in Singapore as far as I know. He's been there for a few years, still has family Stateside.

    It is worth bearing in mind that many contributors to Unz are outside of the US. Some of them have not been to the US in years, and some have never been in the US at all. Adjust opinion as you see fit.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @songbird
    @Pop Warner

    Ford decreed Black History Month.

    Nixon knew about differences, but had the political acumen to understand that he'd be destroyed if he said anything.

    LBJ was a radical egalitarian. He did not sign the Southern Manifesto. He made some crazy speech at Howard University, where he called for equal outcomes.

    JFK wanted a black astronaut, but didn't push after everyone told him that there were no qualified men.

    Truman certainly started the ball rolling to a large extent by desegregating the military, but he may have not understood what the consequences would be. Once it was desegregated, it was possible to threaten to use it in order to desegregate in the schools.

  18. @Jane Plain
    @Twinkie


    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.
     
    Let me try to answer this question. Bear in mind that to do so, I have to play devil's advocate a bit and I ask you to put yourself in the mind of a white liberal. Not a Robin DiAngelo loony, but a normie. I know these people. I think a lot of people on these boards who claim they are big on reality don't understand that America is YUGE and many whites grow up in mostly white areas.

    They come to Eastern Seaboard Metropolis from Somewhere Nice And White, and have NO experience with blacks or any other kind of diversity other than maybe a John McWorther type they played lacrosse with in high school.


    If you have zero experience with blacks, and you have a smattering of American history, you will be set up to sympathize with them. Again - I don't share this, you don't - but put yourself in their shoes.


    Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

     

    You're completely exaggerating, or rather distorting, how they see it. They don't see the flagellating. You focus on that. They don't. They just don't see this. They aren't washing the feet of blacks, or wearing chains, or any of that.

    I've seen this on the Internet. I don't see this in real life. So just stop focusing on that. They see BLM as a continuation of the civil rights movement.

    I don't agree with the normie-white-liberal position, I'm just trying to explain it. Some of them do wise up after having terrible experiences with blacks. In fact many do, although admitting that IQ is partly heritable is too much of a paradigm shift for them. They move away when they have kids and grumble about "good schools," and nothing ever gets settled.

    Replies: @Dumbo

    They move away when they have kids and grumble about “good schools,” and nothing ever gets settled.

    They move to the suburbs and choose “good schools” but many continue to support BLM (at least in social media) from a safe distance.

    They figure the protests will never get to the ‘burbs… Only maybe this time they will.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @Dumbo

    Then let them. Serves 'em right. Maybe then they will learn.

  19. We will give hate no safe harbor. We will never amplify or legitimize the voices of bigotry, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, or white supremacy. Democrats will protect and promote the equal rights of all our citizens—women, LGBTQ+ people, religious minorities, people with disabilities, Native Americans, and all who have been discriminated against in too many ways and for too many generations.

    Translation:

    We will give hate no safe harbor in our circular firing squad of hate! Muslims, shut about women, gays and Jews; Feminists, shut up about Muslims, let the blacks pimp them hoes, and step aside for real trans-women; Latinx folk, drop your machismo and Catholicism and embrace the gays and women as equals; Gays, ignore the fact that Muslims and Aunt Jemimas hate you; Asians, stop being so good at stuff, you’re ruining this thing; Blacks, accept Jews as your leaders, otherwise carry on; Jews…carry on. White guys…just die already, won’t ya! Actually nix that, without you to punch we got nothing.

    Hey, A.E., I think we will know for sure soon, but I hope you didn’t eat all that Kamala crow yet. I think your humble meal was a tad premature.

  20. It seems that “intersectionalism” has really been institutionalized in the Democrat Party. As I think about it, intersectionalism, while cloaking itself in progressivism, is actually a version of the highly detailed caste system of New Spain.

    In the original system Espanoles (Spanish born in Spain) were at the top; followed by Criollos (Spainsh born in New World); an array of mixed categories in the middle including Castizos, Mestizos, Mulatos, Sambos, and Notentiendos (literally I don’t get you); but with the indigenous “Indios” at the bottom.

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-09a7ddc9344d3e9e268f0c0c192134bc

    At first glance, the Democrats’ caste system might seem inverted as browns are at the top and whites at the bottom. But perhaps that is the wrong way to see it.

    In 21st century America, we have a group of (((fair skinned people with foreign allegiance))) that has allied itself to various mixed groups as a method of ruling over the native born majority. Whites are the new “Indios.”

    The original system was rooted in the obsession with La Limpieza de Sangre (Purity of Blood) that had emerged following La Reconquista of Spain from the Moors. Who in contemporary America has such an obsession with Blood Purity? Not whites, but “fellow whites.” A.E. asks:

    Has there ever been a more pro-Jewish president than Donald Trump?

    It seems that in some ways the essence of the current political battles going on in America is the following: whites can choose to be the Indios in the Blue-Team coalition; or whites can embrace the National Zionism of Trump and secure a position as servants of a (((foreign aristocracy.))) “You can submit or die fighting, goyim, but you are never getting your country back. Bienvenidos a Nuevo Jerusalen!”

  21. anon[370] • Disclaimer says:
    @Pop Warner
    @nebulafox


    I’ve got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists
     
    I'll have a hard time showing sympathy for you when they line you up against a wall for being an alleged white supremacist (you do comment here, after all). White nationalists are by far the most persecuted group in the country, getting thrown in prison for defending themselves against violence if not for merely having an opinion. The founders and almost every American president up until Jimmy Carter were white supremacists, not just by today's standards but by the very definition of the term. They seemed to understand better than anyone today what would happen if whites weren't in direct control and putting their interests first. I doubt any would be shocked by the current democratic platform except for the fact that it came from the democrats and not Republicans

    Replies: @anon, @songbird

    I’ll have a hard time showing sympathy for you when they line you up against a wall for being an alleged white supremacist (you do comment here, after all).

    Nebulafox is still in Singapore as far as I know. He’s been there for a few years, still has family Stateside.

    It is worth bearing in mind that many contributors to Unz are outside of the US. Some of them have not been to the US in years, and some have never been in the US at all. Adjust opinion as you see fit.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @anon

    I've been splitting time between Asia (not always Singapore) and the US over the last few years. My recent move to Singapore was not my choice: I needed work, and they were the ones offering a job after I missed out on a couple of much higher paying jobs due to some extremely bad luck and a couple of mistakes. But then came COVID... I still wish I was Stateside, despite that, because of a recent personal loss, but nothing to be done.

    I like and respect Singapore. I like and respect its people. But I remain psychologically American, if an idiosyncratic one, and am under no illusions about that. I want to use my time abroad wisely to gain skills that I can later hopefully use to help America overcome its problems.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  22. @Dumbo
    @Jane Plain


    They move away when they have kids and grumble about “good schools,” and nothing ever gets settled.
     
    They move to the suburbs and choose "good schools" but many continue to support BLM (at least in social media) from a safe distance.

    They figure the protests will never get to the 'burbs... Only maybe this time they will.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    Then let them. Serves ’em right. Maybe then they will learn.

  23. This is the most damned interesting thing it has ever been my privilege (or curse) to witness: The destruction of a fine nation and rending of a pretty strong (if a bit frayed and unevenly insulating) social fabric with the complete, slavish support of the media and academic classes who will be quickly and brutally purged. They really ought to know better. Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed… etc, etc, etc.

  24. The hatred of White traditional America is PALPABLE.

    Donald Trump only represents that in theory, but that’s enough.

    The insaniacs that hope to make Western Civilization and America defunct are suicidal.

    Western Civilization IS the Enlightenment.

    It WILL survive. All that oppose it MUST be DESTROYED.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Dr. Doom


    Western Civilization IS the Enlightenment.

    It WILL survive. All that oppose it MUST be DESTROYED.

     
    I'm terribly amused that you are calling for the destruction of Vox Day.

    The guy's an asshole and aggressively ignorant, but I don't hate him.  I pity him.
  25. “Every single problem in America begins with a J.”
    — Abraham Lincoln

    It would be funny if some 4chan or /pol/ nerd created a re-edited version of the DNC doc where every single word in the doc began with a J.

    It should be called the Bolshevik Manifesto. Not the Communist Manifesto, but the J-supremacist Bolshevik one.

    Because we saw all this happen before, exactly 100 years ago in Russia. It’s all playing out the same way. The Russian Revolution was neither Russian nor a revolution; it was the Jewish conquest of Russia. Same methods as we see here: angry proxy janissaries, coalitions of fringes, total control of the flow and spread of information, control of all institutional choke points, and perhaps most importantly: make the official ideology insane, hateful, unstable, and rigidly enforced — and also constantly changing. Keep everyone confused and constantly guessing, and dreading the consequences if they don’t keep up. Oh, and basically destroy Christianity and slaughter the heritage population.

    As America morphs into the new, murderous Bolshevik Union, perhaps Whites will flee to Russia, and turn it into the new, old America.

  26. Seriously… isn’t it about time whites began to wave the Palestinian flag and shout “Palestine is dearest ally”?

  27. @anon
    @Pop Warner

    I’ll have a hard time showing sympathy for you when they line you up against a wall for being an alleged white supremacist (you do comment here, after all).

    Nebulafox is still in Singapore as far as I know. He's been there for a few years, still has family Stateside.

    It is worth bearing in mind that many contributors to Unz are outside of the US. Some of them have not been to the US in years, and some have never been in the US at all. Adjust opinion as you see fit.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    I’ve been splitting time between Asia (not always Singapore) and the US over the last few years. My recent move to Singapore was not my choice: I needed work, and they were the ones offering a job after I missed out on a couple of much higher paying jobs due to some extremely bad luck and a couple of mistakes. But then came COVID… I still wish I was Stateside, despite that, because of a recent personal loss, but nothing to be done.

    I like and respect Singapore. I like and respect its people. But I remain psychologically American, if an idiosyncratic one, and am under no illusions about that. I want to use my time abroad wisely to gain skills that I can later hopefully use to help America overcome its problems.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @nebulafox

    LKY's comments on multiculturalism are well known. How do you perceive Singapore? Do you have the impression that Chinese, Indians, and Malays act/vote in their own ethnic interests?

    I'm in Japan, and the country seems to have a small, angry group of "Japanese Supremacists", a large minority of opinionless, and a growing majority of xeno-philes that includes the elites.

    I wish there were a large contingent of people here who were pro-Japanese without being aggressively anti-foreigner.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @nebulafox

  28. Thought about this on my night walk.

    They are coming right out and saying white people will not be citizens – not entitled to protections, benefits, rights, etc.

    ANC South Africa mindset but it will run a little differently with conservatively 50% of the population being white and 30% of the ANC being white.

    How are they going to identify themselves to avoid being targeted? Right now they just assume that this stuff will never apply to them because they’re the good kind of white but as it becomes clear that black people cant tell the difference and/or don’t care, this is a question they will be discussing among themselves. We have to pay attention to what they say and do and disrupt or game whatever signals and metrics they’re using.

    We have to put liberal whites into the crosshairs. Ultimately they are the problem. The race focused right wing is proving to be wrong. I say this as a former member. Import the third world, become the third world is true – but the third world would be preferable to deranged affluent white liberal rule. Third world beats pedophiles to death in the street, white libs put pedophiles into your local library to read to children.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @Not my economy


    but the third world would be preferable to deranged affluent white liberal rule.
     
    True.

    Import the third world, become the third world is true
     
    Maybe you were wrong about that, too. Arguments do no good so I ask you to think about it. I say this as a former believer.

    We never really became the "third world". We're still first world all the way, and totally, completely, 100% 'Murrican first world. Go visit Russia, and come back, and tell me we are third world.
    , @dfordoom
    @Not my economy


    They are coming right out and saying white people will not be citizens – not entitled to protections, benefits, rights, etc.
     
    Somehow I don't think that whites like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are going to be stripped of their citizenship.

    How are they going to identify themselves to avoid being targeted?
     
    Well if they're upper middle class they're certainly not going to be targeted.

    The vast majority of white liberals know they have nothing whatsoever to worry about. None of this is aimed at them. Their lives will not be affected in the slightest.

    This is mostly just political theatre. It's throwing red meat to white liberals and the Coalition of the Fringes types. It's another distraction.
  29. @nebulafox
    @anon

    I've been splitting time between Asia (not always Singapore) and the US over the last few years. My recent move to Singapore was not my choice: I needed work, and they were the ones offering a job after I missed out on a couple of much higher paying jobs due to some extremely bad luck and a couple of mistakes. But then came COVID... I still wish I was Stateside, despite that, because of a recent personal loss, but nothing to be done.

    I like and respect Singapore. I like and respect its people. But I remain psychologically American, if an idiosyncratic one, and am under no illusions about that. I want to use my time abroad wisely to gain skills that I can later hopefully use to help America overcome its problems.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    LKY’s comments on multiculturalism are well known. How do you perceive Singapore? Do you have the impression that Chinese, Indians, and Malays act/vote in their own ethnic interests?

    I’m in Japan, and the country seems to have a small, angry group of “Japanese Supremacists”, a large minority of opinionless, and a growing majority of xeno-philes that includes the elites.

    I wish there were a large contingent of people here who were pro-Japanese without being aggressively anti-foreigner.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Chrisnonymous

    I've been trying to find the source of something I read that was allegedly said by Lee Kuan Yew.  It went something like "In the East, individuals are ants.  In the West, individuals are children of God."  I can't find anything like that and wonder if it's being suppressed by all search engines.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    , @nebulafox
    @Chrisnonymous

    I perceive Singapore as an instructive example of both the potential success of a multi-racial society, and the limits of multiculturalism. To an extent, you can extend that to biology vs. culture vs. material factors: I think Singapore's experience shows all three matter.

    All three ethnic groups here identify with other Singaporeans far more than their co-ethnics in China, Malaysia/Indonesia, and India, respectively, and not a few Singaporeans will describe said co-ethnics in withering terms. To use the majority Han as an example, the main reason Singapore is still majority Han is immigration from mainland China, since potential Malaysian/Indonesian Chinese have been tapped dry at this point. They aren't popular with the natives, culturally as much as economically. Singapore spent decades coaching the local Han out of "peasant" behavior with threats of fines and canings for those who couldn't get with the program, and the PRC did the exact opposite in mainstreamizing that during the Cultural Revolution. The differences are there, and bright as day. To this extent, then, the anti-identity politics policies of the PAP in the 1970s and 1980s succeeded beyond all recognition.

    (It goes without saying that the local Malays and Indians really, really do not like being treated with barely veiled racial condescension and overtones that *they* are the "foreign" element by fresh off the boat imports. For Malays in particular, this is deeply galling given their indigenous history. It's ironic: Singapore is a Chinese town founded by Malays, and Kuala Lumpur is the Malaysian capital founded by Chinese.)

    With that in hand, racial and cultural differences still exist: it is no secret that the Malay minority lags behind in education/professional attainment and disproportionately inhabits the city's jails. Things used to be a lot worse in the 1960s when the international situation with Malaysia and pre-New Order Indonesia was quite uncertain: Singapore actually imported Israeli officers in to train the military because they saw parallels in their geopolitical situations in the context of the Six-Day War. To be absolutely clear, Singapore has it very good relative to the issues the US and Europe have with "problem" minorities, but nevertheless, the stratification does exist like in any other vastly multiracial society. Ethnic Indians are actually per capita wealthier than the Chinese, so it isn't a question of Han racial supremacy or institutional bias. Ethnic ghettoes are simply not tolerated, and being an Asian island, education is taken and funded very seriously even in working class communities. Material factors play a role-they always do-but they clearly aren't the whole story. So, that leaves the non-material factors. The former plays a huge role, but also has limits as an explanation: Singaporean Malays tend to look upon their co-ethnics in Malaysia as a bunch of corrupt, shiftless, arrogant liars who you can't trust with anything, and are very proud of their-they stress-Singaporean work ethic.

    >Do you have the impression that Chinese, Indians, and Malays act/vote in their own ethnic interests?

    No, because Singapore is not a democracy for precisely that reason. LKY knew that if Singapore were democratic, the Han majority would use numbers to get everything their way. The non-Han would get alienated, end up forming ethnic blocks and vote only for members of their own tribe.

    , @nebulafox
    @Chrisnonymous

    Re, Japan: when I lived there many years ago, I did encounter some foreigners in Tokyo, and a handful half-Filipina kids in the countryside, so the notion of a completely Japanese Japan is somewhat outdated. Like in Korea, Taiwan, and increasingly mainland China, rural bachelors at the bottom of the dating market have been importing wives from the Philippines and Vietnam.

    I also know that Japanese immigration is quite encouraging toward the "right" kind of foreigner (read: has a STEM PhD, wants to start a business, and is willing to learn the language). It's nothing on the level of European/American mass immigration policies. Young people in particular have grown up in a globalized world and know nothing else: and the majority of people, being average, are going to lean toward whatever the societal zeitgeist is. I don't see European/American style immigration policies anytime soon, but some alt-right utopia, Japan is not.

    (Neither is Korea. Last time I was in Seoul, got hammered over pork belly with a Bangladeshi dude. He was an "optimal" transplant-spoke Korean fluently, married to a local, electrical engineering PhD and doing robotics research, and as you can infer from our activity, was hardly a pious Muslim-but there is no way in hell that this would have happened when my father was there during the dying days of the military dictatorship, let alone when my grandfather was there in the 1950s. Hell, white women seen with Koreans were apparently viewed as Russian prostitutes during the 90s, from what I heard from older kids. Things change so rapidly.)

    >I wish there were a large contingent of people here who were pro-Japanese without being aggressively anti-foreigner.

    I think that's my ideal. The world wouldn't be an interesting place if it were all one big interchangeable box store.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  30. @Dr. Doom
    The hatred of White traditional America is PALPABLE.

    Donald Trump only represents that in theory, but that's enough.

    The insaniacs that hope to make Western Civilization and America defunct are suicidal.

    Western Civilization IS the Enlightenment.

    It WILL survive. All that oppose it MUST be DESTROYED.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Western Civilization IS the Enlightenment.

    It WILL survive. All that oppose it MUST be DESTROYED.

    I’m terribly amused that you are calling for the destruction of Vox Day.

    The guy’s an asshole and aggressively ignorant, but I don’t hate him.  I pity him.

  31. @Chrisnonymous
    @nebulafox

    LKY's comments on multiculturalism are well known. How do you perceive Singapore? Do you have the impression that Chinese, Indians, and Malays act/vote in their own ethnic interests?

    I'm in Japan, and the country seems to have a small, angry group of "Japanese Supremacists", a large minority of opinionless, and a growing majority of xeno-philes that includes the elites.

    I wish there were a large contingent of people here who were pro-Japanese without being aggressively anti-foreigner.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @nebulafox

    I’ve been trying to find the source of something I read that was allegedly said by Lee Kuan Yew.  It went something like “In the East, individuals are ants.  In the West, individuals are children of God.”  I can’t find anything like that and wonder if it’s being suppressed by all search engines.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Mr. Rational

    I don't know!

  32. Vox Day AKA Theodore Beale supports Western Civilization in his own way.

    He identifies as an Indian, but has no love for this Anti-White pogrom.

    White people MUST survive. They will HAVE to FIGHT.

    The enemy will NEVER leave them alone.

    War has come. Violence is happening. Those who do not fight will be killed anyway.

    The Marxists consider this to be their “revolution”.

    Civil War II will decide the FATE of Western Civilization and The World.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Dr. Doom

    "White people MUST survive. They will HAVE to FIGHT."

    Fight, how? Do you mean with their mind or their fists, or both? So how are YOU going to "fight" your enemies other than lamenting on this fine blog?

    "War has come. Violence is happening. Those who do not fight will be killed anyway."

    According to Who/Whom? Regardless, at least your threats are hollow and empty. Blowing off steam, that's all it is. Thankfully, you just don't have what it takes to pull it off.

    , @dfordoom
    @Dr. Doom


    Vox Day AKA Theodore Beale supports Western Civilization in his own way.
     
    I don't think he'd agree that "Western Civilization IS the Enlightenment" though.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

  33. @Richard B
    @nebulafox


    I’ve got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists
     
    The question to ask is,

    What is there in the world that the words White Nationalists and White Supremacists directs us to locate?
     
    Can you point to a specific and identifiable group?

    Does it have an HQ?

    Is it united around an organizing principle with clear and attainable objectives?

    Do they pose a threat to our basic freedoms?

    In short, what exactly is one talking about when they use those words? Anything?

    If so, they should have no problem at all answering the above questions.

    If not, why are they talking?

    I'm not saying they shouldn't talk.

    I think it's great that they do.

    Because they more they do, the more they expose themselves as either extremely cynical and dishonest, or, as pathologicaly naive.

    Next question would be,


    Exactly what are we talking about when we use the word Supremacist?
     
    Certainly one answer would be, that a supremacist not only demands

    1. to be placed above criticism
    2. loved unconditionally
    3. blindly obeyed

    but actually has the power to effecuate those insane demands.

    From this perspective there are clearly supremacists in the USA.

    But they're not White.

    Replies: @Rosie

    From this perspective there are clearly supremacists in the USA.

    But they’re not White.

    By “white supremacist” they mean any White person who prefers that Whites remain a majority rather than become a minority. Majorities are supreme, after all (at least in theory).

  34. @Pop Warner
    @nebulafox


    I’ve got little sympathy for white nationalists and none for white supremacists
     
    I'll have a hard time showing sympathy for you when they line you up against a wall for being an alleged white supremacist (you do comment here, after all). White nationalists are by far the most persecuted group in the country, getting thrown in prison for defending themselves against violence if not for merely having an opinion. The founders and almost every American president up until Jimmy Carter were white supremacists, not just by today's standards but by the very definition of the term. They seemed to understand better than anyone today what would happen if whites weren't in direct control and putting their interests first. I doubt any would be shocked by the current democratic platform except for the fact that it came from the democrats and not Republicans

    Replies: @anon, @songbird

    Ford decreed Black History Month.

    Nixon knew about differences, but had the political acumen to understand that he’d be destroyed if he said anything.

    LBJ was a radical egalitarian. He did not sign the Southern Manifesto. He made some crazy speech at Howard University, where he called for equal outcomes.

    JFK wanted a black astronaut, but didn’t push after everyone told him that there were no qualified men.

    Truman certainly started the ball rolling to a large extent by desegregating the military, but he may have not understood what the consequences would be. Once it was desegregated, it was possible to threaten to use it in order to desegregate in the schools.

  35. @Anonymous
    @nebulafox

    Bla bla bla.

    The 2 of you having a long and pompous conversation about this.

    I see it more simply: they hate me, and want me dead.

    Replies: @Anonymousse

    I see it more simply: they hate me, and want me dead.

    Oh if only that was the worst of it…

    They also want your children dragged off the reeducation camp to be taught to reject God, despise their ancestors, love buggery and hopefully aspire to have themselves turned into suicidal monsters with surgically mutilated genitals.

    Just death would be a relief

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Dumbo
    @Anonymousse


    They also want your children dragged off the reeducation camp to be taught to reject God, despise their ancestors, love buggery and hopefully aspire to have themselves turned into suicidal monsters with surgically mutilated genitals.

    Just death would be a relief

     

    Yeah, and turning children/youth against their parents/elders/tradition is their greatest delight.

    "We'll have you, oh yes, we'll have you
    Lay a hand on our children
    And it's never too late to have you
    Mucus on your collar
    A nail up through the staff chair
    A blade in your soap
    And you cry into your pillow
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief"
    (Morrissey, "The teachers are afraid of the pupils")
  36. @Not my economy
    Thought about this on my night walk.

    They are coming right out and saying white people will not be citizens - not entitled to protections, benefits, rights, etc.

    ANC South Africa mindset but it will run a little differently with conservatively 50% of the population being white and 30% of the ANC being white.

    How are they going to identify themselves to avoid being targeted? Right now they just assume that this stuff will never apply to them because they’re the good kind of white but as it becomes clear that black people cant tell the difference and/or don’t care, this is a question they will be discussing among themselves. We have to pay attention to what they say and do and disrupt or game whatever signals and metrics they’re using.

    We have to put liberal whites into the crosshairs. Ultimately they are the problem. The race focused right wing is proving to be wrong. I say this as a former member. Import the third world, become the third world is true - but the third world would be preferable to deranged affluent white liberal rule. Third world beats pedophiles to death in the street, white libs put pedophiles into your local library to read to children.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @dfordoom

    but the third world would be preferable to deranged affluent white liberal rule.

    True.

    Import the third world, become the third world is true

    Maybe you were wrong about that, too. Arguments do no good so I ask you to think about it. I say this as a former believer.

    We never really became the “third world”. We’re still first world all the way, and totally, completely, 100% ‘Murrican first world. Go visit Russia, and come back, and tell me we are third world.

  37. I’d like to know the Las Vegas odds on what percentage of whites will vote Biden… Regardless, it will be high enough to blow any sane persons mind!

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @VinnyVette

    The good news about the election is that if Trump wins again, it means
    (1) there is a real contingent of people whose real opinions are different from what they say to polls;
    (2) there is some hope for maintaining some order via a plurality of people who are active voters.

  38. And coming from the very same party that founded the KKK yes Democrats are Rotten to their cores

  39. @Mr. Rational
    @Chrisnonymous

    I've been trying to find the source of something I read that was allegedly said by Lee Kuan Yew.  It went something like "In the East, individuals are ants.  In the West, individuals are children of God."  I can't find anything like that and wonder if it's being suppressed by all search engines.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    I don’t know!

  40. @VinnyVette
    I'd like to know the Las Vegas odds on what percentage of whites will vote Biden... Regardless, it will be high enough to blow any sane persons mind!

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    The good news about the election is that if Trump wins again, it means
    (1) there is a real contingent of people whose real opinions are different from what they say to polls;
    (2) there is some hope for maintaining some order via a plurality of people who are active voters.

    • Agree: VinnyVette
  41. CIVIL WAR II BREAKS OUT WHEN BIDEN BECOMES PRESIDENT

    Trump and the rancid Republican Party are electoral toast.

    The new political party called WHITE CORE AMERICA will emerge from the wreckage of the weak and cowardly Trump time and it will destroy the treasonous globalizer Republican Party.

    WHITE CORE AMERICA will explicitly advance and defend the interests of Whites as Whites.

    The new political party called WHITE CORE AMERICA will destroy the rancid and rotting cinder block of a political party called the Republican Party.

    The Republican party must be destroyed!

    I wrote this in August of 2019 about Biden and Whitey and all the anti-White crud now going on in the USA:

    Biden started out his geezer boy campaign for president by ranting like a boob about Charlottesville, Virginia, and he is really ramping the anti-White stuff up but good.

    This has been exactly what Sam Francis-type White Core Americans have been waiting for.

    Biden and the Democrat Party will exhaust themselves screeching about so-called “racism” or alleged “anti-Semitism” or other same such crud. WHITE is the battle and the more these politician whores keep up the anti-White crud the better.

    Some other person on the internet said that the Democrat Party is now moving from the Russia — Russia — Russia nonsense to the Whitey — Whitey — Whitey malarkey. Good!

    Young White people just might figure out that career politician whores such as Biden who push financialization, globalization, multiculturalism, transnationalism and all the other globalizer neoliberal crap are just paid to distract the voting democracy away from the plundering plutocrats and their actions to greedily grab loot.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/white-liberals-define-racism/#comment-3381424

    Joe Biden from 2014 or 2015 calling for mass legal immigration:

    • Agree: Tick Tock
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Charles Pewitt

    Will Westcott--GOP went all out to make sure King, Sessions, and Kobach lost. There is no excuse for continuing to support a party inimical to your interests. You’re either a fool or a GOP operative with something to gain.

    So why is Kobach supporting the man who defeated him? Shouldn't Kobach be turning to Westcott and Spencer for open support?

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

  42. OT

    AE, just wondering if you’ve seen evidence of this in the WORDSUM scores … and if you see any evidence of whither future generations are tending?

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/baby-boomers-score-lower-on-cognitive-functioning-than-members-of-previous-generations-study-finds

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @Almost Missouri

    No, if anything it is to the contrary. People in the current boomer age range in the 1970s did about 1/3rd a standard deviation worse on Wordsum than boomers do today.

  43. @Twinkie
    @nebulafox

    Simply put, this is a drive to legal codification of institutionalized racism against whites as well as encouragement for extra-judicial racism toward the latter. It is monstrous.

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it. Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

    One thing is certain - this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @Jane Plain, @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.

    Maybe they assume it’s all window-dressing and empty rhetoric. Just virtue-signalling. They assume they’ll still be living in their nice safe neighbourhoods and sending their kids to “good schools” full of white and Asian kids. They don’t believe it will make the slightest difference to their lives.

    And they’re probably correct. Very little will change. A few more badwhites will get cancelled. More money will be allocated to social programs that will provide nice comfortable jobs for goodwhites.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @dfordoom

    >Very little will change. A few more badwhites will get cancelled. More money will be allocated to social programs that will provide nice comfortable jobs for goodwhites.

    The way things are going in the US economically, I sincerely doubt this. This is not a long-term tenable situation.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  44. @Anonymousse
    @Anonymous


    I see it more simply: they hate me, and want me dead.
     
    Oh if only that was the worst of it...

    They also want your children dragged off the reeducation camp to be taught to reject God, despise their ancestors, love buggery and hopefully aspire to have themselves turned into suicidal monsters with surgically mutilated genitals.

    Just death would be a relief

    Replies: @Dumbo

    They also want your children dragged off the reeducation camp to be taught to reject God, despise their ancestors, love buggery and hopefully aspire to have themselves turned into suicidal monsters with surgically mutilated genitals.

    Just death would be a relief

    Yeah, and turning children/youth against their parents/elders/tradition is their greatest delight.

    “We’ll have you, oh yes, we’ll have you
    Lay a hand on our children
    And it’s never too late to have you
    Mucus on your collar
    A nail up through the staff chair
    A blade in your soap
    And you cry into your pillow
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief
    To be finished would be a relief”
    (Morrissey, “The teachers are afraid of the pupils”)

  45. Honestly, I cannot understand why anyone in his right mind would vote for Biden or the Democratic Party. I’m not a big fan of Trump either, but… Biden? And with a likely “black female lesbian” VP and those very declared policies against white middle-class people? Not voting for anyone is a more dignified choice.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    And with a likely “black female lesbian” VP
     
    I'm shocked that you're still thinking in such outdated gender binary terms. Men can be lesbians as well! And some lesbians have penises.

    You will report to the re-education camp first thing Monday morning.

    Replies: @Talha

  46. Bad news for Kansas whites. They have spurned Kris Kobach. Instead, it is Congressman Roger Marshall who will represent the Republican party in that state’s race for the Senate. At least Kobach is not cucking (snicker snack)–“We will hold this seat, and I will do everything I can to make sure that happens for the Republican Party,” Kobach said.

    But do not fret, he will bounce back and be named the 2024 GOP Vice Presidential Nominee, at worst, or become a member of Trump’s cabinet, at best, if he wins.

  47. @Dr. Doom
    Vox Day AKA Theodore Beale supports Western Civilization in his own way.

    He identifies as an Indian, but has no love for this Anti-White pogrom.

    White people MUST survive. They will HAVE to FIGHT.

    The enemy will NEVER leave them alone.

    War has come. Violence is happening. Those who do not fight will be killed anyway.

    The Marxists consider this to be their "revolution".

    Civil War II will decide the FATE of Western Civilization and The World.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @dfordoom

    “White people MUST survive. They will HAVE to FIGHT.”

    Fight, how? Do you mean with their mind or their fists, or both? So how are YOU going to “fight” your enemies other than lamenting on this fine blog?

    “War has come. Violence is happening. Those who do not fight will be killed anyway.”

    According to Who/Whom? Regardless, at least your threats are hollow and empty. Blowing off steam, that’s all it is. Thankfully, you just don’t have what it takes to pull it off.

  48. @Charles Pewitt
    CIVIL WAR II BREAKS OUT WHEN BIDEN BECOMES PRESIDENT

    Trump and the rancid Republican Party are electoral toast.

    The new political party called WHITE CORE AMERICA will emerge from the wreckage of the weak and cowardly Trump time and it will destroy the treasonous globalizer Republican Party.

    WHITE CORE AMERICA will explicitly advance and defend the interests of Whites as Whites.

    The new political party called WHITE CORE AMERICA will destroy the rancid and rotting cinder block of a political party called the Republican Party.

    The Republican party must be destroyed!

    I wrote this in August of 2019 about Biden and Whitey and all the anti-White crud now going on in the USA:

    Biden started out his geezer boy campaign for president by ranting like a boob about Charlottesville, Virginia, and he is really ramping the anti-White stuff up but good.

     


    This has been exactly what Sam Francis-type White Core Americans have been waiting for.

     


    Biden and the Democrat Party will exhaust themselves screeching about so-called “racism” or alleged “anti-Semitism” or other same such crud. WHITE is the battle and the more these politician whores keep up the anti-White crud the better.

     


    Some other person on the internet said that the Democrat Party is now moving from the Russia — Russia — Russia nonsense to the Whitey — Whitey — Whitey malarkey. Good!

     


    Young White people just might figure out that career politician whores such as Biden who push financialization, globalization, multiculturalism, transnationalism and all the other globalizer neoliberal crap are just paid to distract the voting democracy away from the plundering plutocrats and their actions to greedily grab loot.

     

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/white-liberals-define-racism/#comment-3381424

    Joe Biden from 2014 or 2015 calling for mass legal immigration:

    https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1121469857260691456?s=20

    Replies: @Corvinus

    Will Westcott–GOP went all out to make sure King, Sessions, and Kobach lost. There is no excuse for continuing to support a party inimical to your interests. You’re either a fool or a GOP operative with something to gain.

    So why is Kobach supporting the man who defeated him? Shouldn’t Kobach be turning to Westcott and Spencer for open support?

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Corvinus

    So why is Kobach supporting the man who defeated him? Shouldn’t Kobach be turning to Westcott and Spencer for open support?

    Kobach and King and Sessions had to be defeated so as to create the conditions for the complete and total destruction of the rancidly treasonous globalizer Republican Party.

    The Chamber of Commerce and fake Christian Mammonite money-grubbing Republican Party must be crushed under a millstone of pure PATRIOTISM and love of country.

    The movie would be called Von Schlieffen II: This Time It Works and it involves smashing the crud out of the Republican Party and then wheeling the WHITE CORE AMERICAN People's Army around to smash the evil and treasonous globalizer Democrat Party.

    Send out some skirmishers of course to weaken and dismay the Democrat Party, but the immediate main focus of all good men and women must be to destroy the evil and treasonous and donor-controlled Republican Party.

    Corvinus,
    Please don't confuse Von Schlieffen with Claudia Schiffer -- many well-intentioned people do and it is certainly improper. It wouldn't make you a bad person if you did, though.

    Mount up and ride to the preliminary sounds of the coming battle to destroy the treasonous and evil and globalizer donor-controlled Republican Party!

    Vote for CHARLES PEWITT as a write-in candidate for president of the USA on November 3!

  49. The enemy will not leave Whites alone. They will attack them.

    Whites will HAVE TO FIGHT in order to simply SURVIVE.

    Civil War II has already started. Historians will say this was the beginning of the war.

    The Antifa and BLM groups will have their “revolution”. They MUST lose.

    Or, everything will be ruined. Nothing will be left. No one will win.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Dr. Doom

    "The enemy will not leave Whites alone. They will attack them."

    You live in a fantasy world. Everyday, whites and blacks get along at work and at play.

    "Whites will HAVE TO FIGHT in order to simply SURVIVE."

    It's more or less a personal choice.

    "Civil War II has already started. Historians will say this was the beginning of the war."

    It really hasn't.

  50. @Not my economy
    Thought about this on my night walk.

    They are coming right out and saying white people will not be citizens - not entitled to protections, benefits, rights, etc.

    ANC South Africa mindset but it will run a little differently with conservatively 50% of the population being white and 30% of the ANC being white.

    How are they going to identify themselves to avoid being targeted? Right now they just assume that this stuff will never apply to them because they’re the good kind of white but as it becomes clear that black people cant tell the difference and/or don’t care, this is a question they will be discussing among themselves. We have to pay attention to what they say and do and disrupt or game whatever signals and metrics they’re using.

    We have to put liberal whites into the crosshairs. Ultimately they are the problem. The race focused right wing is proving to be wrong. I say this as a former member. Import the third world, become the third world is true - but the third world would be preferable to deranged affluent white liberal rule. Third world beats pedophiles to death in the street, white libs put pedophiles into your local library to read to children.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @dfordoom

    They are coming right out and saying white people will not be citizens – not entitled to protections, benefits, rights, etc.

    Somehow I don’t think that whites like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett are going to be stripped of their citizenship.

    How are they going to identify themselves to avoid being targeted?

    Well if they’re upper middle class they’re certainly not going to be targeted.

    The vast majority of white liberals know they have nothing whatsoever to worry about. None of this is aimed at them. Their lives will not be affected in the slightest.

    This is mostly just political theatre. It’s throwing red meat to white liberals and the Coalition of the Fringes types. It’s another distraction.

  51. @Dr. Doom
    Vox Day AKA Theodore Beale supports Western Civilization in his own way.

    He identifies as an Indian, but has no love for this Anti-White pogrom.

    White people MUST survive. They will HAVE to FIGHT.

    The enemy will NEVER leave them alone.

    War has come. Violence is happening. Those who do not fight will be killed anyway.

    The Marxists consider this to be their "revolution".

    Civil War II will decide the FATE of Western Civilization and The World.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @dfordoom

    Vox Day AKA Theodore Beale supports Western Civilization in his own way.

    I don’t think he’d agree that “Western Civilization IS the Enlightenment” though.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @dfordoom

    He certainly doesn't.  The word which best describes his tendencies may be "doxastic".

  52. @Dumbo
    Honestly, I cannot understand why anyone in his right mind would vote for Biden or the Democratic Party. I'm not a big fan of Trump either, but... Biden? And with a likely "black female lesbian" VP and those very declared policies against white middle-class people? Not voting for anyone is a more dignified choice.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    And with a likely “black female lesbian” VP

    I’m shocked that you’re still thinking in such outdated gender binary terms. Men can be lesbians as well! And some lesbians have penises.

    You will report to the re-education camp first thing Monday morning.

    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @Talha
    @dfordoom


    You will report to the re-education camp first thing Monday morning.

     

    Nah, just watch the Matrix trilogy over and over again until you’re fixed:
    https://www.twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1291183474918010881

    Peace.
  53. How do you define “enlightenment”?

    The Renaissance? High Roman period? America’s Founding?

    All Western Civilization.

    China was stagnant for millennia. As was Japan.

    Western contact brought them up to speed.

  54. @dfordoom
    @Dr. Doom


    Vox Day AKA Theodore Beale supports Western Civilization in his own way.
     
    I don't think he'd agree that "Western Civilization IS the Enlightenment" though.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    He certainly doesn’t.  The word which best describes his tendencies may be “doxastic“.

  55. @dfordoom
    @Twinkie


    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it.
     
    Maybe they assume it's all window-dressing and empty rhetoric. Just virtue-signalling. They assume they'll still be living in their nice safe neighbourhoods and sending their kids to "good schools" full of white and Asian kids. They don't believe it will make the slightest difference to their lives.

    And they're probably correct. Very little will change. A few more badwhites will get cancelled. More money will be allocated to social programs that will provide nice comfortable jobs for goodwhites.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    >Very little will change. A few more badwhites will get cancelled. More money will be allocated to social programs that will provide nice comfortable jobs for goodwhites.

    The way things are going in the US economically, I sincerely doubt this. This is not a long-term tenable situation.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @nebulafox



    >Very little will change. A few more badwhites will get cancelled. More money will be allocated to social programs that will provide nice comfortable jobs for goodwhites.
     
    The way things are going in the US economically, I sincerely doubt this. This is not a long-term tenable situation.
     
    That's possible. But that's not how white liberals see it. They are confident that their lives will go on exactly as they're going on now. They're confident that none of this will affect them personally. They believe that only bad people have anything to worry about. They don't think they have anything to worry about.
  56. @Chrisnonymous
    @nebulafox

    LKY's comments on multiculturalism are well known. How do you perceive Singapore? Do you have the impression that Chinese, Indians, and Malays act/vote in their own ethnic interests?

    I'm in Japan, and the country seems to have a small, angry group of "Japanese Supremacists", a large minority of opinionless, and a growing majority of xeno-philes that includes the elites.

    I wish there were a large contingent of people here who were pro-Japanese without being aggressively anti-foreigner.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @nebulafox

    I perceive Singapore as an instructive example of both the potential success of a multi-racial society, and the limits of multiculturalism. To an extent, you can extend that to biology vs. culture vs. material factors: I think Singapore’s experience shows all three matter.

    All three ethnic groups here identify with other Singaporeans far more than their co-ethnics in China, Malaysia/Indonesia, and India, respectively, and not a few Singaporeans will describe said co-ethnics in withering terms. To use the majority Han as an example, the main reason Singapore is still majority Han is immigration from mainland China, since potential Malaysian/Indonesian Chinese have been tapped dry at this point. They aren’t popular with the natives, culturally as much as economically. Singapore spent decades coaching the local Han out of “peasant” behavior with threats of fines and canings for those who couldn’t get with the program, and the PRC did the exact opposite in mainstreamizing that during the Cultural Revolution. The differences are there, and bright as day. To this extent, then, the anti-identity politics policies of the PAP in the 1970s and 1980s succeeded beyond all recognition.

    (It goes without saying that the local Malays and Indians really, really do not like being treated with barely veiled racial condescension and overtones that *they* are the “foreign” element by fresh off the boat imports. For Malays in particular, this is deeply galling given their indigenous history. It’s ironic: Singapore is a Chinese town founded by Malays, and Kuala Lumpur is the Malaysian capital founded by Chinese.)

    With that in hand, racial and cultural differences still exist: it is no secret that the Malay minority lags behind in education/professional attainment and disproportionately inhabits the city’s jails. Things used to be a lot worse in the 1960s when the international situation with Malaysia and pre-New Order Indonesia was quite uncertain: Singapore actually imported Israeli officers in to train the military because they saw parallels in their geopolitical situations in the context of the Six-Day War. To be absolutely clear, Singapore has it very good relative to the issues the US and Europe have with “problem” minorities, but nevertheless, the stratification does exist like in any other vastly multiracial society. Ethnic Indians are actually per capita wealthier than the Chinese, so it isn’t a question of Han racial supremacy or institutional bias. Ethnic ghettoes are simply not tolerated, and being an Asian island, education is taken and funded very seriously even in working class communities. Material factors play a role-they always do-but they clearly aren’t the whole story. So, that leaves the non-material factors. The former plays a huge role, but also has limits as an explanation: Singaporean Malays tend to look upon their co-ethnics in Malaysia as a bunch of corrupt, shiftless, arrogant liars who you can’t trust with anything, and are very proud of their-they stress-Singaporean work ethic.

    >Do you have the impression that Chinese, Indians, and Malays act/vote in their own ethnic interests?

    No, because Singapore is not a democracy for precisely that reason. LKY knew that if Singapore were democratic, the Han majority would use numbers to get everything their way. The non-Han would get alienated, end up forming ethnic blocks and vote only for members of their own tribe.

  57. @Chrisnonymous
    @nebulafox

    LKY's comments on multiculturalism are well known. How do you perceive Singapore? Do you have the impression that Chinese, Indians, and Malays act/vote in their own ethnic interests?

    I'm in Japan, and the country seems to have a small, angry group of "Japanese Supremacists", a large minority of opinionless, and a growing majority of xeno-philes that includes the elites.

    I wish there were a large contingent of people here who were pro-Japanese without being aggressively anti-foreigner.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @nebulafox

    Re, Japan: when I lived there many years ago, I did encounter some foreigners in Tokyo, and a handful half-Filipina kids in the countryside, so the notion of a completely Japanese Japan is somewhat outdated. Like in Korea, Taiwan, and increasingly mainland China, rural bachelors at the bottom of the dating market have been importing wives from the Philippines and Vietnam.

    I also know that Japanese immigration is quite encouraging toward the “right” kind of foreigner (read: has a STEM PhD, wants to start a business, and is willing to learn the language). It’s nothing on the level of European/American mass immigration policies. Young people in particular have grown up in a globalized world and know nothing else: and the majority of people, being average, are going to lean toward whatever the societal zeitgeist is. I don’t see European/American style immigration policies anytime soon, but some alt-right utopia, Japan is not.

    (Neither is Korea. Last time I was in Seoul, got hammered over pork belly with a Bangladeshi dude. He was an “optimal” transplant-spoke Korean fluently, married to a local, electrical engineering PhD and doing robotics research, and as you can infer from our activity, was hardly a pious Muslim-but there is no way in hell that this would have happened when my father was there during the dying days of the military dictatorship, let alone when my grandfather was there in the 1950s. Hell, white women seen with Koreans were apparently viewed as Russian prostitutes during the 90s, from what I heard from older kids. Things change so rapidly.)

    >I wish there were a large contingent of people here who were pro-Japanese without being aggressively anti-foreigner.

    I think that’s my ideal. The world wouldn’t be an interesting place if it were all one big interchangeable box store.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @nebulafox

    Thanks for your long comments regarding Japan, Korea, and, above, Singapore. They are all in line with my experiences and anecdotes of other people I know. For example, a leftist former friend who lives in Singapore and his Chinese-Thai wife used to complain about the Chinese and Mandarin language. I was always a bit befuddled (while sharing their distaste for hearing Mandarin on the sidewalks and in restaurants from being in Japan). Your comments explain their social situation in Singapore.

    I had an interesting time in Seoul. I didn't see any other non-East-Asians while there, despite specifically going to see a US military base. I don't know how that was possible and didn't even realize it until I read your story, but now I am worried to go back again.

    Japan is interesting. The longer I am here the less I feel connected to the place. I think this is true of Japanese too--many seem to tour their own country like strangers to it. The immigration system is quite different from place to place. You are not the first foreigner who has talked about PhDs and language in Tokyo, but I had a much easier time in Kansai, and I know a bloke who got an immediate 5-year visa in a rural prefecture without anything going for him in terms of qualifications. If you come again, go to the island of Shikoku, which is very different from Tokyo and from the countryside regions that house factories with their inevitable Brazilians. I understand Shikoku has some of the Filipina brides you reference, but I didn't see any.

    Waiting for COVID shenanigans to end and then for The Raffles reconstruction project to end. I want to stay there, and my wife wants to stay in that place with the swimming pool on the roof. After that, maybe back to the USA in a year or two.

  58. Globalism is a bankrupt shopping mall, not a political theory.

    Diversity NEVER adds White people to ANYTHING.

    At what point does this mass delusion crack up and crumble?

    Economic collapse. When you no longer have ANYTHING to lose.

    The loss of jobs and possible charges are just barely holding a dying Empire together.

    No petrodollar, No More System.

    The only way they run massive deficits in the Swamp is because of World Reserve Currency Status.

    That goes, and the System Falls Down like a House of Cards.

  59. @nebulafox
    @dfordoom

    >Very little will change. A few more badwhites will get cancelled. More money will be allocated to social programs that will provide nice comfortable jobs for goodwhites.

    The way things are going in the US economically, I sincerely doubt this. This is not a long-term tenable situation.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    >Very little will change. A few more badwhites will get cancelled. More money will be allocated to social programs that will provide nice comfortable jobs for goodwhites.

    The way things are going in the US economically, I sincerely doubt this. This is not a long-term tenable situation.

    That’s possible. But that’s not how white liberals see it. They are confident that their lives will go on exactly as they’re going on now. They’re confident that none of this will affect them personally. They believe that only bad people have anything to worry about. They don’t think they have anything to worry about.

  60. @Corvinus
    @Charles Pewitt

    Will Westcott--GOP went all out to make sure King, Sessions, and Kobach lost. There is no excuse for continuing to support a party inimical to your interests. You’re either a fool or a GOP operative with something to gain.

    So why is Kobach supporting the man who defeated him? Shouldn't Kobach be turning to Westcott and Spencer for open support?

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    So why is Kobach supporting the man who defeated him? Shouldn’t Kobach be turning to Westcott and Spencer for open support?

    Kobach and King and Sessions had to be defeated so as to create the conditions for the complete and total destruction of the rancidly treasonous globalizer Republican Party.

    The Chamber of Commerce and fake Christian Mammonite money-grubbing Republican Party must be crushed under a millstone of pure PATRIOTISM and love of country.

    The movie would be called Von Schlieffen II: This Time It Works and it involves smashing the crud out of the Republican Party and then wheeling the WHITE CORE AMERICAN People’s Army around to smash the evil and treasonous globalizer Democrat Party.

    Send out some skirmishers of course to weaken and dismay the Democrat Party, but the immediate main focus of all good men and women must be to destroy the evil and treasonous and donor-controlled Republican Party.

    Corvinus,
    Please don’t confuse Von Schlieffen with Claudia Schiffer — many well-intentioned people do and it is certainly improper. It wouldn’t make you a bad person if you did, though.

    Mount up and ride to the preliminary sounds of the coming battle to destroy the treasonous and evil and globalizer donor-controlled Republican Party!

    Vote for CHARLES PEWITT as a write-in candidate for president of the USA on November 3!

  61. @Dr. Doom
    @Corvinus

    The enemy will not leave Whites alone. They will attack them.

    Whites will HAVE TO FIGHT in order to simply SURVIVE.

    Civil War II has already started. Historians will say this was the beginning of the war.

    The Antifa and BLM groups will have their "revolution". They MUST lose.

    Or, everything will be ruined. Nothing will be left. No one will win.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “The enemy will not leave Whites alone. They will attack them.”

    You live in a fantasy world. Everyday, whites and blacks get along at work and at play.

    “Whites will HAVE TO FIGHT in order to simply SURVIVE.”

    It’s more or less a personal choice.

    “Civil War II has already started. Historians will say this was the beginning of the war.”

    It really hasn’t.

  62. @Twinkie
    @nebulafox

    Simply put, this is a drive to legal codification of institutionalized racism against whites as well as encouragement for extra-judicial racism toward the latter. It is monstrous.

    The intriguing question is why white liberals are signing up for it. Do they seriously believe in self-flagellation and -oppression? Likely not. Do they think this racism will apply only selectively to BadWhites? Possibly.

    One thing is certain - this will increase, not lessen, racial strife in the United States. Cui bono?

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @nebulafox, @Jane Plain, @dfordoom, @Audacious Epigone

    Before the US becomes “majority-minority”, the Democrat party will become so. We’re on the cusp now, with n-H whites making up just over half of all Democrat voters. Those of us on the other side of the divide will watch with keen interest to see how that plays out.

  63. We will never amplify or legitimize the voices of bigotry, racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, or white supremacy.

    Oh and anti-Satanism; what, you don’t appreciate our rituals, you anti-choice bigot??!!

    “👉 The Satanic Temple is proud to announce its Religious Abortion Ritual, a ceremony rooted in our deeply-held beliefs.

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    👉 The performance of the Satanic abortion ritual is protected by religious liberty laws. It exempts Satanists from fulfilling any medically unnecessary and unscientific requirement, such as mandatory waiting periods or unwanted sonograms, that interferes with the practice of our ritual”
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    Wonder if we will see “Satanists for Biden” bumper stickers.🤔

    Peace.

  64. @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    And with a likely “black female lesbian” VP
     
    I'm shocked that you're still thinking in such outdated gender binary terms. Men can be lesbians as well! And some lesbians have penises.

    You will report to the re-education camp first thing Monday morning.

    Replies: @Talha

    You will report to the re-education camp first thing Monday morning.

    Nah, just watch the Matrix trilogy over and over again until you’re fixed:

    Peace.

  65. @nebulafox
    @Chrisnonymous

    Re, Japan: when I lived there many years ago, I did encounter some foreigners in Tokyo, and a handful half-Filipina kids in the countryside, so the notion of a completely Japanese Japan is somewhat outdated. Like in Korea, Taiwan, and increasingly mainland China, rural bachelors at the bottom of the dating market have been importing wives from the Philippines and Vietnam.

    I also know that Japanese immigration is quite encouraging toward the "right" kind of foreigner (read: has a STEM PhD, wants to start a business, and is willing to learn the language). It's nothing on the level of European/American mass immigration policies. Young people in particular have grown up in a globalized world and know nothing else: and the majority of people, being average, are going to lean toward whatever the societal zeitgeist is. I don't see European/American style immigration policies anytime soon, but some alt-right utopia, Japan is not.

    (Neither is Korea. Last time I was in Seoul, got hammered over pork belly with a Bangladeshi dude. He was an "optimal" transplant-spoke Korean fluently, married to a local, electrical engineering PhD and doing robotics research, and as you can infer from our activity, was hardly a pious Muslim-but there is no way in hell that this would have happened when my father was there during the dying days of the military dictatorship, let alone when my grandfather was there in the 1950s. Hell, white women seen with Koreans were apparently viewed as Russian prostitutes during the 90s, from what I heard from older kids. Things change so rapidly.)

    >I wish there were a large contingent of people here who were pro-Japanese without being aggressively anti-foreigner.

    I think that's my ideal. The world wouldn't be an interesting place if it were all one big interchangeable box store.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Thanks for your long comments regarding Japan, Korea, and, above, Singapore. They are all in line with my experiences and anecdotes of other people I know. For example, a leftist former friend who lives in Singapore and his Chinese-Thai wife used to complain about the Chinese and Mandarin language. I was always a bit befuddled (while sharing their distaste for hearing Mandarin on the sidewalks and in restaurants from being in Japan). Your comments explain their social situation in Singapore.

    I had an interesting time in Seoul. I didn’t see any other non-East-Asians while there, despite specifically going to see a US military base. I don’t know how that was possible and didn’t even realize it until I read your story, but now I am worried to go back again.

    Japan is interesting. The longer I am here the less I feel connected to the place. I think this is true of Japanese too–many seem to tour their own country like strangers to it. The immigration system is quite different from place to place. You are not the first foreigner who has talked about PhDs and language in Tokyo, but I had a much easier time in Kansai, and I know a bloke who got an immediate 5-year visa in a rural prefecture without anything going for him in terms of qualifications. If you come again, go to the island of Shikoku, which is very different from Tokyo and from the countryside regions that house factories with their inevitable Brazilians. I understand Shikoku has some of the Filipina brides you reference, but I didn’t see any.

    Waiting for COVID shenanigans to end and then for The Raffles reconstruction project to end. I want to stay there, and my wife wants to stay in that place with the swimming pool on the roof. After that, maybe back to the USA in a year or two.

  66. @Almost Missouri
    OT

    AE, just wondering if you've seen evidence of this in the WORDSUM scores ... and if you see any evidence of whither future generations are tending?

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/baby-boomers-score-lower-on-cognitive-functioning-than-members-of-previous-generations-study-finds

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    No, if anything it is to the contrary. People in the current boomer age range in the 1970s did about 1/3rd a standard deviation worse on Wordsum than boomers do today.

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