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How rare are family units made up of an interracial gay couple with an adopted daughter of a third race? One in a million? One in ten million?

My pop culture knowledge is thin, but I do recall a similar arrangement in Modern Family (sans the interracial coupling). Gay men adopting a son is potentially less rare in real life for reasons that preclude the more common arrangement from ever being depicted in the world of corporate media entertainment.

 
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  1. Look at the ease of access that ten year old has to that open carried assault sword, a very dangerous idea indeed. This cartoon is regressive because any modern medieval society would pride itself on common sense sword reform and this is going to teach the new generation the wrong ideas. #SwordControlNOW!

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    The stereotypes about gays being reckless is getting out of control, and here we have Hulu making things worse!
  2. Just as homosexual men groom boys to become twinks, our homophiliac pop culture grooms the masses to embrace pedo, hebo, and ephebophhilia as not only normal, but common.

    The fact that homosexual men are allowed within 1000 yards of any boy is just another sign of our culture’s sickness.

    • Agree: Tusk, Anonymoose
    • Replies: @Daniel H
    Right now, it looks that Russia, and only Russia, can save the West.
    , @Anonymoose
    15 years ago: "Why do you care what two consenting adults to in their spare time. No one is forcing you to participate. We just want to be left alone."

    Today: LGBT studies in school. teenagers being encouraged to to take hormone therapy. drag queen story time. Children being made to participate in 'pride' festivals. Corporations pandering to fags by becoming 'woke'. US state department using taxpayers money to enforce homoimperium over the world.
  3. Why can’t they just go back to the times when we knew plenty of the characters were gay, but they weren’t obscenely in your face about it:

    Peace.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @Rosie

    Why can’t they just go back to the times when we knew plenty of the characters were gay, but they weren’t obscenely in your face about it:
     
    Homosexuals are outsiders. That is not necessarily a terrible thing. It seems to me they used to embrace it.
  4. As we all can all see interracial marriage is super common

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    Good graph, just wish the color schemes were more distinct.

    Just a caution though - with several of those ethnic groups, there is a significant difference between the foreign-born and American-born cohorts in interracial marriage numbers/percentages, with the American-born being much higher.
    , @Anonymoose
    Here is an interesting population projections for 2060. Leftist neoliberals like to imagine this society where everyone is racially mixed to the core with no ethnic or sectarian blocs to cause civil or ideological strife.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7xuEJfVUAANR1s.png:large
  5. @Oblivionrecurs
    As we all can all see interracial marriage is super common

    http://magaimg.net/img/87je.jpg

    Good graph, just wish the color schemes were more distinct.

    Just a caution though – with several of those ethnic groups, there is a significant difference between the foreign-born and American-born cohorts in interracial marriage numbers/percentages, with the American-born being much higher.

  6. And this kind of freakiness is yet another example of why my children do not watch television and were instead reared on wholesome American classics such as these: http://www.setonbooks.com/viewone.php?ToView=P-RD03-12&Zoomin=1

    Flip through the pages. Very wholesome, great values, pure Americana.

    • Replies: @Wency
    Twinkie, have you ever summarized your thoughts on parenting or have recommended reading? And what are your results? I was under the impression you have grown kids and things have gone well. Trying for children now with wife but not sure how to resist the culture without over-sheltering (which seems counter-productive in my experience unless you live in a permanently sheltered community, e.g. Amish).

    There probably needs to be a forum, here or elsewhere, for high IQ religious conservatives to compare notes on parenting. But I'm most interested in hearing from people with good end results, not someone with a 10-year-old with things "looking good so far".

    I know an old devout high IQ Catholic who is very proud of his 4 adult children and their high-flying East Coast careers. But it eventually came out that only 1 son still goes to Mass, and he only has a total of 3 grandchildren, and that's probably all he's going to get. One 12-year-old granddaughter identifies as a boy (and the parents of course support her). So I'm pretty reluctant to take advice from this guy.
  7. they’re coming for your kids. which way, european man?

    open homosexuals were correctly suppressed for 5000 years. allow open homosexuals to participate in society as your equal, and you’ll get what you ancestors knew how to avoid.

    incredible how much our ancestors knew, and how wrong the modern, enlightened left’s ideas actually are. almost all ‘progess’ is regress.

  8. The colors and looks may be anything they like, but I can almost guarantee you that their ethics, values, behaviour and talk will be as white as can be.

  9. Members of this thread are now subject to a Level 2 hate speech offense.

    Attention community: unrest procedure code is now in effect. Inoculate, shield, pacify. Code: pressure, sword, sterilize.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Don't create free content to be monetized by those who hate you.
  10. • Replies: @Rosie
    Yet another slap in the face. MLP has been one of the rare bright spots in children's media. It's terrible the way these radicals can steal things from us like this.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Hey you're back
  11. @Twinkie
    And this kind of freakiness is yet another example of why my children do not watch television and were instead reared on wholesome American classics such as these: http://www.setonbooks.com/viewone.php?ToView=P-RD03-12&Zoomin=1

    Flip through the pages. Very wholesome, great values, pure Americana.

    Twinkie, have you ever summarized your thoughts on parenting or have recommended reading? And what are your results? I was under the impression you have grown kids and things have gone well. Trying for children now with wife but not sure how to resist the culture without over-sheltering (which seems counter-productive in my experience unless you live in a permanently sheltered community, e.g. Amish).

    There probably needs to be a forum, here or elsewhere, for high IQ religious conservatives to compare notes on parenting. But I’m most interested in hearing from people with good end results, not someone with a 10-year-old with things “looking good so far”.

    I know an old devout high IQ Catholic who is very proud of his 4 adult children and their high-flying East Coast careers. But it eventually came out that only 1 son still goes to Mass, and he only has a total of 3 grandchildren, and that’s probably all he’s going to get. One 12-year-old granddaughter identifies as a boy (and the parents of course support her). So I’m pretty reluctant to take advice from this guy.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Old Sport, with all possible respect to Twinkie, don't take your child rearing advice from random people you will never know, on the internet.
    , @notanon
    we both went to very nasty schools so we over-compensated by getting ours into very safe schools and they turned out fine but they're soft as sh*t as a result which i don't think is going to be optimal given the way things are going.

    if i could do it again i'd probably go for a *slightly* bad school as a kind of vaccination and make up for the academic downside at home.
    , @Twinkie

    I was under the impression you have grown kids and things have gone well.
     
    My oldest is a teen. So far so good, but who knows in 5 years, let alone 15 or 20? I’m not deluded enough to think that I have that much influence.

    your thoughts on parenting
     
    First, marry well. Not only does your wife contribute roughly 50% of your children’s genes, she will spend more time with them than anyone else in the early part of their lives. Parents are the first teachers of their children. That goes double for the mothers.

    Then find a good community - people who share values and have children who can be friends (and later perhaps boyfriends/girlfriends and maybe even spouses) of your children.

    recommended reading
     
    I always suggest “Raising Self-Reliant Children in a Self-Indulgent World” by H. Stephen Glenn. Also, if you have girls “Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters.”

    Catholic who is very proud of his 4 adult children
     
    That’s not many for Catholics. Perhaps the kids got the message.
  12. @Talha
    Also...lesbian ponies...
    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jun/13/my-little-pony-brings-lesbians-to-equestria-just-in-time-for-pride-week

    Peace.

    Yet another slap in the face. MLP has been one of the rare bright spots in children’s media. It’s terrible the way these radicals can steal things from us like this.

    • Replies: @Talha
    These are the days of civilizational pathologies - apparently it even infects adult males:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnF5XyeQPDA

    Peace.
    , @Anonymousse
    Any mass media property that’s not currently pozzed is just a vehicle for future poz delivery to its fans.

    It should be obvious by now that they’re coming for EVERYTHING eventually.

    Anyone with kids (and ideally anyone without) needs to consider radically unplugging from pop culture. Detox now and start establishing alternative cultural reference points within your own family and micro community.
  13. @Talha
    Why can't they just go back to the times when we knew plenty of the characters were gay, but they weren't obscenely in your face about it:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0YnZIHAhYM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97QkO7nAn68

    Peace.

    Why can’t they just go back to the times when we knew plenty of the characters were gay, but they weren’t obscenely in your face about it:

    Homosexuals are outsiders. That is not necessarily a terrible thing. It seems to me they used to embrace it.

    • Replies: @Talha
    Observing the way this issue has gone in the West and how quickly this snowballed just within my lifetime...(I was just observing on another thread):
    "I was at the NY city library last week, stunning architecture and design. Unfortunately, the place was wall to wall primed up with massive pictures of gay people and the various victories in their narrative. Photos of men kissing each other in public. Another day we passed by a reading cafe that was advertising drag-queen story time for kids. I had my kids with me and had to have a talk with them later about how to frame it; you may not be able to change this trend in public, but at least you have to have a hate it in your heart – that is a sacred obligation on you."

    ...I am realizing how imperative it is to demand that homosexuality not be given a free-reign in public space in which to operate if lid is still operative in keeping it in check. The Muslim lands must absolutely hold their ground and not budge. There is no reason to go out and pummel men who sound effeminate or hunt them and put them in prison for private and personal liaisons, but there simply is no reason to back down in the face of them wanting; 1) to have public shows of their degeneracy, 2) trying to promote it in culture or 3) to have it considered morally neutral in a cultural context.

    Peace.
  14. She rock rough and stuff with she afro-puffs
    (Rock on witcha bad self)

  15. @Rosie
    Yet another slap in the face. MLP has been one of the rare bright spots in children's media. It's terrible the way these radicals can steal things from us like this.

    These are the days of civilizational pathologies – apparently it even infects adult males:

    Peace.

  16. @Rosie

    Why can’t they just go back to the times when we knew plenty of the characters were gay, but they weren’t obscenely in your face about it:
     
    Homosexuals are outsiders. That is not necessarily a terrible thing. It seems to me they used to embrace it.

    Observing the way this issue has gone in the West and how quickly this snowballed just within my lifetime…(I was just observing on another thread):
    “I was at the NY city library last week, stunning architecture and design. Unfortunately, the place was wall to wall primed up with massive pictures of gay people and the various victories in their narrative. Photos of men kissing each other in public. Another day we passed by a reading cafe that was advertising drag-queen story time for kids. I had my kids with me and had to have a talk with them later about how to frame it; you may not be able to change this trend in public, but at least you have to have a hate it in your heart – that is a sacred obligation on you.”

    …I am realizing how imperative it is to demand that homosexuality not be given a free-reign in public space in which to operate if lid is still operative in keeping it in check. The Muslim lands must absolutely hold their ground and not budge. There is no reason to go out and pummel men who sound effeminate or hunt them and put them in prison for private and personal liaisons, but there simply is no reason to back down in the face of them wanting; 1) to have public shows of their degeneracy, 2) trying to promote it in culture or 3) to have it considered morally neutral in a cultural context.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    Agree. I would imagine that being part of deviant subculture would have a certain romance about it. Rejection by the larger society would reasonably be expected to intensify in group solidarity, creating that sense of belonging and identity that everyone craves. I suspect that a lot of gays were perfectly content with the status quo in the eighties, and it was probably in their best interest to maintain that, but certain people had another, more destructive agenda.

    I wish the Muslim lands the best of luck in facing down this subversion, but I must say I'm not optimistic. Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.
    , @neutral
    You can start out by overthrowing the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and turning it into the Islamic Republic of Arabia. By not cucking to Israel and the international jew you have already taken giant steps in saving yourself.

    You can also leave all white lands, its not good for whites, and its also not good for Muslims in the end if you don't like globo homo (look at prominent pakis such as Sadiq Khan and Sajid Javid as good examples to what happens).

    , @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    I certainly wish you luck.

    If there is ever to be any hope of resurrecting Christendom, it will be helpful if another religion shows that they can pull off the reduction of homosexuality to the status of quarantined illness.
  17. @Talha
    Observing the way this issue has gone in the West and how quickly this snowballed just within my lifetime...(I was just observing on another thread):
    "I was at the NY city library last week, stunning architecture and design. Unfortunately, the place was wall to wall primed up with massive pictures of gay people and the various victories in their narrative. Photos of men kissing each other in public. Another day we passed by a reading cafe that was advertising drag-queen story time for kids. I had my kids with me and had to have a talk with them later about how to frame it; you may not be able to change this trend in public, but at least you have to have a hate it in your heart – that is a sacred obligation on you."

    ...I am realizing how imperative it is to demand that homosexuality not be given a free-reign in public space in which to operate if lid is still operative in keeping it in check. The Muslim lands must absolutely hold their ground and not budge. There is no reason to go out and pummel men who sound effeminate or hunt them and put them in prison for private and personal liaisons, but there simply is no reason to back down in the face of them wanting; 1) to have public shows of their degeneracy, 2) trying to promote it in culture or 3) to have it considered morally neutral in a cultural context.

    Peace.

    Agree. I would imagine that being part of deviant subculture would have a certain romance about it. Rejection by the larger society would reasonably be expected to intensify in group solidarity, creating that sense of belonging and identity that everyone craves. I suspect that a lot of gays were perfectly content with the status quo in the eighties, and it was probably in their best interest to maintain that, but certain people had another, more destructive agenda.

    I wish the Muslim lands the best of luck in facing down this subversion, but I must say I’m not optimistic. Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.

    • Replies: @Talha

    Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.
     
    Yup - this is a fight unlike we've ever faced to be honest:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaK1DK5EtM8

    The Mongols will curb-stomp your population into submission, but eventually, you convert them. With these guys, it's a complete ideological transformation and a subversion (as you rightly call it) of the moral foundations of society.

    Thus far we've held our ground fairly well and it is only in the fringes of society that this is happening; these people are still considered freaks and it is usually fine to deny them jobs or put social pressure on them, etc. We have a very strong basis upon which to have a no-tolerance public policy on such behavior:
    "The Prophet (pbuh) cursed those men, who assume the manners of women, and those women, who assume the manners of men, and he said; 'Turn them out of your houses.' The Prophet (pbuh) turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar (ra) turned out such-and-such woman." reported in Bukhari

    Like in the West, we will only stand firm as long as religion remains entrenched in society. We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West. At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period; we on the other hand will literally eat the filth served up already heated and ready for consumption by Globohomo - which is why our apostates usually go super-Poz once they walk out the door; their degeneracy could put most born-Westerners to shame.

    In places like Lebanon and Turkey (where they are more rule-of-law), things like gay pride parades are shut down using "security concerns"...in places like Afghanistan, well, once the coalition forces are gone, you can expect MSM to start airing public hangings of bacha-bazi enthusiasts trying to egg us into another intervention.

    Peace.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    While I don't have any way to quantify how common or uncommon it is, I've talked to multiple gay men who hate the "pride" culture. It takes what they view as the worst excesses of male homosexuality and makes those the defining characteristics of being a male homosexual. They are of course reluctant to ever say anything publicly about it. I've also talked to lesbians who think pride is a de facto celebration of male homosexuality, not homosexuality in general.
  18. @Rosie
    Agree. I would imagine that being part of deviant subculture would have a certain romance about it. Rejection by the larger society would reasonably be expected to intensify in group solidarity, creating that sense of belonging and identity that everyone craves. I suspect that a lot of gays were perfectly content with the status quo in the eighties, and it was probably in their best interest to maintain that, but certain people had another, more destructive agenda.

    I wish the Muslim lands the best of luck in facing down this subversion, but I must say I'm not optimistic. Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.

    Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.

    Yup – this is a fight unlike we’ve ever faced to be honest:

    The Mongols will curb-stomp your population into submission, but eventually, you convert them. With these guys, it’s a complete ideological transformation and a subversion (as you rightly call it) of the moral foundations of society.

    Thus far we’ve held our ground fairly well and it is only in the fringes of society that this is happening; these people are still considered freaks and it is usually fine to deny them jobs or put social pressure on them, etc. We have a very strong basis upon which to have a no-tolerance public policy on such behavior:
    “The Prophet (pbuh) cursed those men, who assume the manners of women, and those women, who assume the manners of men, and he said; ‘Turn them out of your houses.’ The Prophet (pbuh) turned out such-and-such man, and ‘Umar (ra) turned out such-and-such woman.” reported in Bukhari

    Like in the West, we will only stand firm as long as religion remains entrenched in society. We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West. At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period; we on the other hand will literally eat the filth served up already heated and ready for consumption by Globohomo – which is why our apostates usually go super-Poz once they walk out the door; their degeneracy could put most born-Westerners to shame.

    In places like Lebanon and Turkey (where they are more rule-of-law), things like gay pride parades are shut down using “security concerns”…in places like Afghanistan, well, once the coalition forces are gone, you can expect MSM to start airing public hangings of bacha-bazi enthusiasts trying to egg us into another intervention.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Rosie

    public hangings of bacha-bazi enthusiasts trying to egg us into another intervention.
     
    ...which would be well-deserved, of course, with even (no, especially) the women cheering it on.
    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West.
     
    This is a trend that I've noticed among many non-white people in Canada. The level of degeneracy is shocking among some of these people. Once they come here, it's no hold barred. This is shown through fertility figures - whites have a higher TFR in Ontario than do non-whites. 66% South Asian Brampton ON has the highest abortion rate in Ontario.

    At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period
     
    That seems to be the main thing. Yes, whites are degenerate, BUT we also seem to have some kind of knowledge about how to operate in a society without rules. Ie. these unspoken rules have been passed down through our parents and grandparents, even if only in a loose kind of way.

    The children of immigrants don't have that. To them, the conservative grandparents are from the old country, so they ignore their advice. "OMG, my brown parents are so ____ (strict, mean, won't let me go out, fill in the blank)" is a common phrase. The brown parents are even more clueless about how to counteract the Globohomo pozzing than were the Boomers (but Gen X is woke about it).

    Unfortunately, the greatest displays of degeneracy I've seen have been from brown and Arab people. In fact most are shocked that I don't smoke weed every day and haven't had 20+ sex partners. I remember this Muslim girl from Middle School - she was the heaviest drinker and partier at her highschool and now no longer wears the hijab. Now all these people are jerking themselves off over the negro Toronto Raptors ('ayo, dey look like uzz'). Congrats, you are now fully assimilated!

    , @Dumbo
    I would wish Muslims well if they left European/North American/formerly Christian lands, as they don't, I don't find it is necessarily bad that they fall into the Globohomo trap, maybe it's their fitting punishment. I don't think that those that immigrate are helping anyone, not even themselves. Also, as I mentioned somewhere else, a lot Muslims in Western lands are not really religious at all, they dominate crime, drugs, prostitution rings (were the Rotherham pimps "religious"?), etc.
  19. @Talha

    Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.
     
    Yup - this is a fight unlike we've ever faced to be honest:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaK1DK5EtM8

    The Mongols will curb-stomp your population into submission, but eventually, you convert them. With these guys, it's a complete ideological transformation and a subversion (as you rightly call it) of the moral foundations of society.

    Thus far we've held our ground fairly well and it is only in the fringes of society that this is happening; these people are still considered freaks and it is usually fine to deny them jobs or put social pressure on them, etc. We have a very strong basis upon which to have a no-tolerance public policy on such behavior:
    "The Prophet (pbuh) cursed those men, who assume the manners of women, and those women, who assume the manners of men, and he said; 'Turn them out of your houses.' The Prophet (pbuh) turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar (ra) turned out such-and-such woman." reported in Bukhari

    Like in the West, we will only stand firm as long as religion remains entrenched in society. We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West. At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period; we on the other hand will literally eat the filth served up already heated and ready for consumption by Globohomo - which is why our apostates usually go super-Poz once they walk out the door; their degeneracy could put most born-Westerners to shame.

    In places like Lebanon and Turkey (where they are more rule-of-law), things like gay pride parades are shut down using "security concerns"...in places like Afghanistan, well, once the coalition forces are gone, you can expect MSM to start airing public hangings of bacha-bazi enthusiasts trying to egg us into another intervention.

    Peace.

    public hangings of bacha-bazi enthusiasts trying to egg us into another intervention.

    …which would be well-deserved, of course, with even (no, especially) the women cheering it on.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  20. Sid says:

    We’re in an interesting confluence of interests and factors, as regards to pop culture.

    SJWs dominate what’s made and reviewed, but they don’t buy enough movie tickets and scarcely any merchandise.

    White male nerds used to buy tickets and all the merchandise, but they’re increasingly fed up with the SJWs.

    Chinese movie audiences are the new thing. They were too poor in the 70s and 80s to have much nostalgia or a developed aesthetic taste. But they’re Weihan Zhang not allow baizuo movies.

    What happens? I think white male nerds will increasingly withdraw from pop culture, finding and creating their own entertainment. Chinese will make their own damn movies. SJWs will lord over their empires of nothing. I can’t wait for the people who financed them to go bankrupt.

    What about guys like us? With brains, taste, and fed up with their Woke propaganda?

    We should read our Homer, Virgil, Dante, and Shakespeare, and tell the white male saps paying for movie tickets to grow up already.

    • Replies: @neutral

    I think white male nerds will increasingly withdraw from pop culture
     
    Despite all the jewish efforts, not all pop culture can be taken over by them. Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D can to a certain degree still be independent of direct jewish domination.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    Agree. There is a growing attempt to take those men away from us, of course, and the best way to resist it is to actually know about them. The Illiad and Odyssey are 180 degrees in opposition to everything the Woke totalitarians champion. I'm surprised they are still taught as part of the classics. They are still taught as such, right? Right?
  21. @Sid
    We're in an interesting confluence of interests and factors, as regards to pop culture.

    SJWs dominate what's made and reviewed, but they don't buy enough movie tickets and scarcely any merchandise.

    White male nerds used to buy tickets and all the merchandise, but they're increasingly fed up with the SJWs.

    Chinese movie audiences are the new thing. They were too poor in the 70s and 80s to have much nostalgia or a developed aesthetic taste. But they're Weihan Zhang not allow baizuo movies.

    What happens? I think white male nerds will increasingly withdraw from pop culture, finding and creating their own entertainment. Chinese will make their own damn movies. SJWs will lord over their empires of nothing. I can't wait for the people who financed them to go bankrupt.

    What about guys like us? With brains, taste, and fed up with their Woke propaganda?

    We should read our Homer, Virgil, Dante, and Shakespeare, and tell the white male saps paying for movie tickets to grow up already.

    I think white male nerds will increasingly withdraw from pop culture

    Despite all the jewish efforts, not all pop culture can be taken over by them. Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D can to a certain degree still be independent of direct jewish domination.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D
     
    Or you could do some manly things like learning to fight, shoot, and hunt. Be a real warrior, if you will.

    They are going to be last last preserve of non-SJW-ness.
    , @Sid
    Very true. For a couple of years, I was huge on the board game "Diplomacy," which I played online. It had such a narrow audience that I never had to hear one woke word from anyone.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    The rot is internal. Blaming the Jews for everything is self-defeating.
  22. @Talha
    Observing the way this issue has gone in the West and how quickly this snowballed just within my lifetime...(I was just observing on another thread):
    "I was at the NY city library last week, stunning architecture and design. Unfortunately, the place was wall to wall primed up with massive pictures of gay people and the various victories in their narrative. Photos of men kissing each other in public. Another day we passed by a reading cafe that was advertising drag-queen story time for kids. I had my kids with me and had to have a talk with them later about how to frame it; you may not be able to change this trend in public, but at least you have to have a hate it in your heart – that is a sacred obligation on you."

    ...I am realizing how imperative it is to demand that homosexuality not be given a free-reign in public space in which to operate if lid is still operative in keeping it in check. The Muslim lands must absolutely hold their ground and not budge. There is no reason to go out and pummel men who sound effeminate or hunt them and put them in prison for private and personal liaisons, but there simply is no reason to back down in the face of them wanting; 1) to have public shows of their degeneracy, 2) trying to promote it in culture or 3) to have it considered morally neutral in a cultural context.

    Peace.

    You can start out by overthrowing the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and turning it into the Islamic Republic of Arabia. By not cucking to Israel and the international jew you have already taken giant steps in saving yourself.

    You can also leave all white lands, its not good for whites, and its also not good for Muslims in the end if you don’t like globo homo (look at prominent pakis such as Sadiq Khan and Sajid Javid as good examples to what happens).

    • Replies: @Talha

    You can start out by overthrowing the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and turning it into the Islamic Republic of Arabia.
     
    That is easier said than done. They have bought a lot of influence and weapons with all that oil money over the decades. This will certainly take time. They have made themselves very unpopular in the Muslim world. However, until that oil money runs out, I can't see and easy solution. Perhaps some internal prince will revolt - I don't know.

    By not cucking to Israel
     
    Yup - this is a big deal.

    its also not good for Muslims in the end if you don’t like globo homo
     
    We aren't usually ones to back down from a good fight. Back in the day, distance could provide a nice buffer. Nowadays, globohomo will try to follow you wherever one goes.

    look at prominent pakis such as Sadiq Khan and Sajid Javid as good examples to what happens
     
    Yup - those aren't the guys that have a chance to turn things around. If Islam has a chance to change things in the West, it will be at the hands of native (meaning people like indigenous White, Native, Black, etc.) Muslims not at the hands of those who came here mostly for material gain. Moses (pbuh) didn't cozy up to Pharoah and say I'm down with your idols for gibz.

    Peace.
  23. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Just as homosexual men groom boys to become twinks, our homophiliac pop culture grooms the masses to embrace pedo, hebo, and ephebophhilia as not only normal, but common.

    The fact that homosexual men are allowed within 1000 yards of any boy is just another sign of our culture's sickness.

    Right now, it looks that Russia, and only Russia, can save the West.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Yeah, and half of them would move here tomorrow if they could.

    Just when i thought the cucking here couldnt get worse..
  24. @Talha
    Observing the way this issue has gone in the West and how quickly this snowballed just within my lifetime...(I was just observing on another thread):
    "I was at the NY city library last week, stunning architecture and design. Unfortunately, the place was wall to wall primed up with massive pictures of gay people and the various victories in their narrative. Photos of men kissing each other in public. Another day we passed by a reading cafe that was advertising drag-queen story time for kids. I had my kids with me and had to have a talk with them later about how to frame it; you may not be able to change this trend in public, but at least you have to have a hate it in your heart – that is a sacred obligation on you."

    ...I am realizing how imperative it is to demand that homosexuality not be given a free-reign in public space in which to operate if lid is still operative in keeping it in check. The Muslim lands must absolutely hold their ground and not budge. There is no reason to go out and pummel men who sound effeminate or hunt them and put them in prison for private and personal liaisons, but there simply is no reason to back down in the face of them wanting; 1) to have public shows of their degeneracy, 2) trying to promote it in culture or 3) to have it considered morally neutral in a cultural context.

    Peace.

    I certainly wish you luck.

    If there is ever to be any hope of resurrecting Christendom, it will be helpful if another religion shows that they can pull off the reduction of homosexuality to the status of quarantined illness.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    The conservative Evangelical churches look to conservative Islam for how to grow and gain influence (conservative Islam has done quite well in SE-A).

    I do think the Muslim competition has the potential to encourage competition by the churches. It's embarrassing to have a church with 20 old farts and the mosque next door is full with people of all ages.

    Anyways - without Christianity, Europe will fall to the Muslims. Unfortunately it's just the laws of nature that atheists are weak. Canada on the other hand I'm not sure about, we seem to be becoming a mass of cultureless Globohomo slop. (Many muslims are degenerate as fuck as well).

  25. @neutral

    I think white male nerds will increasingly withdraw from pop culture
     
    Despite all the jewish efforts, not all pop culture can be taken over by them. Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D can to a certain degree still be independent of direct jewish domination.

    Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D

    Or you could do some manly things like learning to fight, shoot, and hunt. Be a real warrior, if you will.

    They are going to be last last preserve of non-SJW-ness.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @iffen
    You and Chelsea M., eh, Twinkie?

    Comity, comity! I'm all in on comity.

    , @Sid
    You definitely have a solid point, and white men certainly should pursue physical activities.

    But there will always be unathletic, nerdy white men who would rather have fun with something nerdy. These men have been worth their weight in gold for the dis-right over the last five years, so it's not a moot concern either.
  26. @neutral
    You can start out by overthrowing the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and turning it into the Islamic Republic of Arabia. By not cucking to Israel and the international jew you have already taken giant steps in saving yourself.

    You can also leave all white lands, its not good for whites, and its also not good for Muslims in the end if you don't like globo homo (look at prominent pakis such as Sadiq Khan and Sajid Javid as good examples to what happens).

    You can start out by overthrowing the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and turning it into the Islamic Republic of Arabia.

    That is easier said than done. They have bought a lot of influence and weapons with all that oil money over the decades. This will certainly take time. They have made themselves very unpopular in the Muslim world. However, until that oil money runs out, I can’t see and easy solution. Perhaps some internal prince will revolt – I don’t know.

    By not cucking to Israel

    Yup – this is a big deal.

    its also not good for Muslims in the end if you don’t like globo homo

    We aren’t usually ones to back down from a good fight. Back in the day, distance could provide a nice buffer. Nowadays, globohomo will try to follow you wherever one goes.

    look at prominent pakis such as Sadiq Khan and Sajid Javid as good examples to what happens

    Yup – those aren’t the guys that have a chance to turn things around. If Islam has a chance to change things in the West, it will be at the hands of native (meaning people like indigenous White, Native, Black, etc.) Muslims not at the hands of those who came here mostly for material gain. Moses (pbuh) didn’t cozy up to Pharoah and say I’m down with your idols for gibz.

    Peace.

  27. @Twinkie

    Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D
     
    Or you could do some manly things like learning to fight, shoot, and hunt. Be a real warrior, if you will.

    They are going to be last last preserve of non-SJW-ness.

    You and Chelsea M., eh, Twinkie?

    Comity, comity! I’m all in on comity.

  28. @MikeatMikedotMike
    Just as homosexual men groom boys to become twinks, our homophiliac pop culture grooms the masses to embrace pedo, hebo, and ephebophhilia as not only normal, but common.

    The fact that homosexual men are allowed within 1000 yards of any boy is just another sign of our culture's sickness.

    15 years ago: “Why do you care what two consenting adults to in their spare time. No one is forcing you to participate. We just want to be left alone.”

    Today: LGBT studies in school. teenagers being encouraged to to take hormone therapy. drag queen story time. Children being made to participate in ‘pride’ festivals. Corporations pandering to fags by becoming ‘woke’. US state department using taxpayers money to enforce homoimperium over the world.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Maybe it's a really, really roundabout way of trying to deal with sub-Saharan African fertility. Our elites surely know what they're doing!
  29. News flash!

    Once again, estimate that 90-95% of what you consider “females” on TV were born male. This is, if anything a low estimate, and has been the case since the advent of television. If you don’t believe me, watch ‘I Love Lucy’ some time and get a load if how broad and flat “her” shoulders are.

    And Audie, if they made a reality show about a young, middle class white couple in Montana, adopting a white girl from Wyoming, would YOU be providing free publicity for it (i.e., writing an article about it)?

    Good, so you a complicitous part of the “liberal” media.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    I'd be happy to host a page with links to wholesome, morally edifying media alternatives, particularly directed towards parents with young children.

    But I'd need help--I'm totally out of touch with pop culture. The last tv series I watched was probably the HBO series Rome that lasted for two seasons back in the mid-2000s.
    , @Toronto Russian

    Once again, estimate that 90-95% of what you consider “females” on TV were born male. This is, if anything a low estimate, and has been the case since the advent of television. If you don’t believe me, watch ‘I Love Lucy’ some time and get a load if how broad and flat “her” shoulders are.
     
    What a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Lucille Ball looked like a completely normal woman in swimsuit. The broad-shouldered look was common in midcentury fashion and achieved by shoulder pads or puff sleeves.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/eb/73/d4eb738ecbdfa454e268d4c8c173b28e.jpg

    https://collegian.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/1940s-spring-frocks-parade.jpg

    Moreover, female swimmers have naturally much broader shoulders and they're certified females (taking anti-cheating hormone tests.) What can even be the reasoning behind the belief in transsexual conspiracy? Aren't most TV producers heterosexual men, don't they know that "sex sells" and that most of the audience aren't into ladyboy fetish?
  30. What do you do with a foul mouthed black celebrity who sets himself on fire while using drugs? Give him a kid’s show! What could prove someone more worthy of mentoring children than having a personal history like that?

    • Replies: @Truth
    How was your nap, Rip?
  31. @Oblivionrecurs
    As we all can all see interracial marriage is super common

    http://magaimg.net/img/87je.jpg

    Here is an interesting population projections for 2060. Leftist neoliberals like to imagine this society where everyone is racially mixed to the core with no ethnic or sectarian blocs to cause civil or ideological strife.

  32. @Wency
    Twinkie, have you ever summarized your thoughts on parenting or have recommended reading? And what are your results? I was under the impression you have grown kids and things have gone well. Trying for children now with wife but not sure how to resist the culture without over-sheltering (which seems counter-productive in my experience unless you live in a permanently sheltered community, e.g. Amish).

    There probably needs to be a forum, here or elsewhere, for high IQ religious conservatives to compare notes on parenting. But I'm most interested in hearing from people with good end results, not someone with a 10-year-old with things "looking good so far".

    I know an old devout high IQ Catholic who is very proud of his 4 adult children and their high-flying East Coast careers. But it eventually came out that only 1 son still goes to Mass, and he only has a total of 3 grandchildren, and that's probably all he's going to get. One 12-year-old granddaughter identifies as a boy (and the parents of course support her). So I'm pretty reluctant to take advice from this guy.

    Old Sport, with all possible respect to Twinkie, don’t take your child rearing advice from random people you will never know, on the internet.

    • Replies: @Wency
    There's nothing wrong with gathering information online. You don't have to treat every data point as Gospel. I don't know enough people in real life in the category of (high IQ + religious conservative + successful grown children) to make many observations.
  33. @Daniel H
    Right now, it looks that Russia, and only Russia, can save the West.

    Yeah, and half of them would move here tomorrow if they could.

    Just when i thought the cucking here couldnt get worse..

  34. @J1234
    What do you do with a foul mouthed black celebrity who sets himself on fire while using drugs? Give him a kid's show! What could prove someone more worthy of mentoring children than having a personal history like that?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLzN99j-Keg

    How was your nap, Rip?

  35. @Wency
    Twinkie, have you ever summarized your thoughts on parenting or have recommended reading? And what are your results? I was under the impression you have grown kids and things have gone well. Trying for children now with wife but not sure how to resist the culture without over-sheltering (which seems counter-productive in my experience unless you live in a permanently sheltered community, e.g. Amish).

    There probably needs to be a forum, here or elsewhere, for high IQ religious conservatives to compare notes on parenting. But I'm most interested in hearing from people with good end results, not someone with a 10-year-old with things "looking good so far".

    I know an old devout high IQ Catholic who is very proud of his 4 adult children and their high-flying East Coast careers. But it eventually came out that only 1 son still goes to Mass, and he only has a total of 3 grandchildren, and that's probably all he's going to get. One 12-year-old granddaughter identifies as a boy (and the parents of course support her). So I'm pretty reluctant to take advice from this guy.

    we both went to very nasty schools so we over-compensated by getting ours into very safe schools and they turned out fine but they’re soft as sh*t as a result which i don’t think is going to be optimal given the way things are going.

    if i could do it again i’d probably go for a *slightly* bad school as a kind of vaccination and make up for the academic downside at home.

    • Replies: @Wency
    Yeah, on the one hand, you worry about bad influences forming their peer group. But sheltering them entirely from bad influences may have consequences too. I'm watching one friend who is choosing to put his kids in public (rather than private Christian) school for this reason, even though he could easily afford the private school.

    I've picked up that kids these days never seem to fight or get bullied (at least not in an overt "gimme your lunch money" way). I got into tons of fights as a kid, even though I went to private school most of the time. Seems like it was educational and formative. I wouldn't trust a leader who's never been punched in the face.
  36. @neutral

    I think white male nerds will increasingly withdraw from pop culture
     
    Despite all the jewish efforts, not all pop culture can be taken over by them. Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D can to a certain degree still be independent of direct jewish domination.

    Very true. For a couple of years, I was huge on the board game “Diplomacy,” which I played online. It had such a narrow audience that I never had to hear one woke word from anyone.

  37. Sid says:
    @Twinkie

    Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D
     
    Or you could do some manly things like learning to fight, shoot, and hunt. Be a real warrior, if you will.

    They are going to be last last preserve of non-SJW-ness.

    You definitely have a solid point, and white men certainly should pursue physical activities.

    But there will always be unathletic, nerdy white men who would rather have fun with something nerdy. These men have been worth their weight in gold for the dis-right over the last five years, so it’s not a moot concern either.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    white men certainly should pursue physical activities.
     
    All men should pursue physical activities. Otherwise we get fat and develop hemorrhoids.

    But there will always be unathletic, nerdy white men who would rather have fun with something nerdy.
     
    You don’t have to be athletic to shoot guns. MIT has one of the best shooting teams in the country.

    Anybody who can hold a knife can learn Kali and be a dangerous, dangerous human being with a blade (or a stick).

    And martial arts such as Judo and Jujitsu are kinetic chess/mind in motion. They are very appealing to smart guys. The latest thing in Jits is a bunch of nerds tapping burly guys with tricky leglock games.
  38. The sad thing is, if you go over to Breitbart and start LARPing as one half of an interracial gay couple and tell them all how much you love Trump and MAGA, you’ll get more likes in 20 seconds than any of your legitimate commentary will get in six months, so desperate are they to have their Trumptardism validated by a “based gay guy.”

  39. @Talha
    Also...lesbian ponies...
    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jun/13/my-little-pony-brings-lesbians-to-equestria-just-in-time-for-pride-week

    Peace.

    Hey you’re back

    • Replies: @Talha
    Yeah, Ramadan is over.

    Peace.
  40. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    I certainly wish you luck.

    If there is ever to be any hope of resurrecting Christendom, it will be helpful if another religion shows that they can pull off the reduction of homosexuality to the status of quarantined illness.

    The conservative Evangelical churches look to conservative Islam for how to grow and gain influence (conservative Islam has done quite well in SE-A).

    I do think the Muslim competition has the potential to encourage competition by the churches. It’s embarrassing to have a church with 20 old farts and the mosque next door is full with people of all ages.

    Anyways – without Christianity, Europe will fall to the Muslims. Unfortunately it’s just the laws of nature that atheists are weak. Canada on the other hand I’m not sure about, we seem to be becoming a mass of cultureless Globohomo slop. (Many muslims are degenerate as fuck as well).

  41. @Talha

    Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.
     
    Yup - this is a fight unlike we've ever faced to be honest:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaK1DK5EtM8

    The Mongols will curb-stomp your population into submission, but eventually, you convert them. With these guys, it's a complete ideological transformation and a subversion (as you rightly call it) of the moral foundations of society.

    Thus far we've held our ground fairly well and it is only in the fringes of society that this is happening; these people are still considered freaks and it is usually fine to deny them jobs or put social pressure on them, etc. We have a very strong basis upon which to have a no-tolerance public policy on such behavior:
    "The Prophet (pbuh) cursed those men, who assume the manners of women, and those women, who assume the manners of men, and he said; 'Turn them out of your houses.' The Prophet (pbuh) turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar (ra) turned out such-and-such woman." reported in Bukhari

    Like in the West, we will only stand firm as long as religion remains entrenched in society. We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West. At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period; we on the other hand will literally eat the filth served up already heated and ready for consumption by Globohomo - which is why our apostates usually go super-Poz once they walk out the door; their degeneracy could put most born-Westerners to shame.

    In places like Lebanon and Turkey (where they are more rule-of-law), things like gay pride parades are shut down using "security concerns"...in places like Afghanistan, well, once the coalition forces are gone, you can expect MSM to start airing public hangings of bacha-bazi enthusiasts trying to egg us into another intervention.

    Peace.

    We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West.

    This is a trend that I’ve noticed among many non-white people in Canada. The level of degeneracy is shocking among some of these people. Once they come here, it’s no hold barred. This is shown through fertility figures – whites have a higher TFR in Ontario than do non-whites. 66% South Asian Brampton ON has the highest abortion rate in Ontario.

    At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period

    That seems to be the main thing. Yes, whites are degenerate, BUT we also seem to have some kind of knowledge about how to operate in a society without rules. Ie. these unspoken rules have been passed down through our parents and grandparents, even if only in a loose kind of way.

    The children of immigrants don’t have that. To them, the conservative grandparents are from the old country, so they ignore their advice. “OMG, my brown parents are so ____ (strict, mean, won’t let me go out, fill in the blank)” is a common phrase. The brown parents are even more clueless about how to counteract the Globohomo pozzing than were the Boomers (but Gen X is woke about it).

    Unfortunately, the greatest displays of degeneracy I’ve seen have been from brown and Arab people. In fact most are shocked that I don’t smoke weed every day and haven’t had 20+ sex partners. I remember this Muslim girl from Middle School – she was the heaviest drinker and partier at her highschool and now no longer wears the hijab. Now all these people are jerking themselves off over the negro Toronto Raptors (‘ayo, dey look like uzz’). Congrats, you are now fully assimilated!

    • Replies: @Talha

    greatest displays of degeneracy I’ve seen have been from brown and Arab people.
     
    You described the problem well. It seems almost as if many of our immigrant youth came here to become like beaches whales (partying hard before death).

    My wife grew up in Berkeley, CA. She says the sluttiest girls in her area were known to come from the private Catholic school; when they fell off the wagon, apparently they had to prove how much of a bad girl they really were. I think many young Muslims are like this. And yes, the older generation is unprepared.

    But it is like you said also, I see many young people attending Friday congregation or the daily prayers. Many mosques around our area have to hold two congregations because of lack of space (or one would spill out into the parking lot and streets). So that is a sign that gives me hope.

    I didn’t watch the NBA series, but man, that game 7 for the NHL finals was incredible; I have not seen a great performance like that from a goalie since Roy or Hasek!

    Peace.
    , @Dumbo
    I think it's the opportunity to be "free", i.e. to give free rein to vices. I met once in Canada a girl from an Arab Muslim country, she was from a formerly conservative Muslim family, but once she migrated to Canada she started to do drugs, go to parties every day, have promiscuous sex, become a "feminist", and working for a porn site. It's funny, maybe, but while many whites may peddle degeneracy but keep their own families intact, non-whites do not seem to have the same strength (or the same hypocrisy?) and once they are far away from their conservative upbringing, they fall fast into pure degeneracy. The same happens with many Muslims in Europe by the way, a few may be religious fanatics, but many more really are into the culture of drugs, sex, alcohol, social media, and all the ills of modern day Western life. Unfortunately, vice is in general more attractive than virtue (but the price paid is steep).
  42. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Hey you're back

    Yeah, Ramadan is over.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Hmm. Well BengaliCanadianDude seemed to ramp up his posting during Ramadan (friends unavailable to hang out?) So does this mean he isn't going to heaven?
  43. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West.
     
    This is a trend that I've noticed among many non-white people in Canada. The level of degeneracy is shocking among some of these people. Once they come here, it's no hold barred. This is shown through fertility figures - whites have a higher TFR in Ontario than do non-whites. 66% South Asian Brampton ON has the highest abortion rate in Ontario.

    At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period
     
    That seems to be the main thing. Yes, whites are degenerate, BUT we also seem to have some kind of knowledge about how to operate in a society without rules. Ie. these unspoken rules have been passed down through our parents and grandparents, even if only in a loose kind of way.

    The children of immigrants don't have that. To them, the conservative grandparents are from the old country, so they ignore their advice. "OMG, my brown parents are so ____ (strict, mean, won't let me go out, fill in the blank)" is a common phrase. The brown parents are even more clueless about how to counteract the Globohomo pozzing than were the Boomers (but Gen X is woke about it).

    Unfortunately, the greatest displays of degeneracy I've seen have been from brown and Arab people. In fact most are shocked that I don't smoke weed every day and haven't had 20+ sex partners. I remember this Muslim girl from Middle School - she was the heaviest drinker and partier at her highschool and now no longer wears the hijab. Now all these people are jerking themselves off over the negro Toronto Raptors ('ayo, dey look like uzz'). Congrats, you are now fully assimilated!

    greatest displays of degeneracy I’ve seen have been from brown and Arab people.

    You described the problem well. It seems almost as if many of our immigrant youth came here to become like beaches whales (partying hard before death).

    My wife grew up in Berkeley, CA. She says the sluttiest girls in her area were known to come from the private Catholic school; when they fell off the wagon, apparently they had to prove how much of a bad girl they really were. I think many young Muslims are like this. And yes, the older generation is unprepared.

    But it is like you said also, I see many young people attending Friday congregation or the daily prayers. Many mosques around our area have to hold two congregations because of lack of space (or one would spill out into the parking lot and streets). So that is a sign that gives me hope.

    I didn’t watch the NBA series, but man, that game 7 for the NHL finals was incredible; I have not seen a great performance like that from a goalie since Roy or Hasek!

    Peace.

  44. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West.
     
    This is a trend that I've noticed among many non-white people in Canada. The level of degeneracy is shocking among some of these people. Once they come here, it's no hold barred. This is shown through fertility figures - whites have a higher TFR in Ontario than do non-whites. 66% South Asian Brampton ON has the highest abortion rate in Ontario.

    At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period
     
    That seems to be the main thing. Yes, whites are degenerate, BUT we also seem to have some kind of knowledge about how to operate in a society without rules. Ie. these unspoken rules have been passed down through our parents and grandparents, even if only in a loose kind of way.

    The children of immigrants don't have that. To them, the conservative grandparents are from the old country, so they ignore their advice. "OMG, my brown parents are so ____ (strict, mean, won't let me go out, fill in the blank)" is a common phrase. The brown parents are even more clueless about how to counteract the Globohomo pozzing than were the Boomers (but Gen X is woke about it).

    Unfortunately, the greatest displays of degeneracy I've seen have been from brown and Arab people. In fact most are shocked that I don't smoke weed every day and haven't had 20+ sex partners. I remember this Muslim girl from Middle School - she was the heaviest drinker and partier at her highschool and now no longer wears the hijab. Now all these people are jerking themselves off over the negro Toronto Raptors ('ayo, dey look like uzz'). Congrats, you are now fully assimilated!

    I think it’s the opportunity to be “free”, i.e. to give free rein to vices. I met once in Canada a girl from an Arab Muslim country, she was from a formerly conservative Muslim family, but once she migrated to Canada she started to do drugs, go to parties every day, have promiscuous sex, become a “feminist”, and working for a porn site. It’s funny, maybe, but while many whites may peddle degeneracy but keep their own families intact, non-whites do not seem to have the same strength (or the same hypocrisy?) and once they are far away from their conservative upbringing, they fall fast into pure degeneracy. The same happens with many Muslims in Europe by the way, a few may be religious fanatics, but many more really are into the culture of drugs, sex, alcohol, social media, and all the ills of modern day Western life. Unfortunately, vice is in general more attractive than virtue (but the price paid is steep).

  45. @Talha

    Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.
     
    Yup - this is a fight unlike we've ever faced to be honest:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaK1DK5EtM8

    The Mongols will curb-stomp your population into submission, but eventually, you convert them. With these guys, it's a complete ideological transformation and a subversion (as you rightly call it) of the moral foundations of society.

    Thus far we've held our ground fairly well and it is only in the fringes of society that this is happening; these people are still considered freaks and it is usually fine to deny them jobs or put social pressure on them, etc. We have a very strong basis upon which to have a no-tolerance public policy on such behavior:
    "The Prophet (pbuh) cursed those men, who assume the manners of women, and those women, who assume the manners of men, and he said; 'Turn them out of your houses.' The Prophet (pbuh) turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar (ra) turned out such-and-such woman." reported in Bukhari

    Like in the West, we will only stand firm as long as religion remains entrenched in society. We lose that, and honestly, we might crumple faster than the West. At least the West went through a transitional and experimental period; we on the other hand will literally eat the filth served up already heated and ready for consumption by Globohomo - which is why our apostates usually go super-Poz once they walk out the door; their degeneracy could put most born-Westerners to shame.

    In places like Lebanon and Turkey (where they are more rule-of-law), things like gay pride parades are shut down using "security concerns"...in places like Afghanistan, well, once the coalition forces are gone, you can expect MSM to start airing public hangings of bacha-bazi enthusiasts trying to egg us into another intervention.

    Peace.

    I would wish Muslims well if they left European/North American/formerly Christian lands, as they don’t, I don’t find it is necessarily bad that they fall into the Globohomo trap, maybe it’s their fitting punishment. I don’t think that those that immigrate are helping anyone, not even themselves. Also, as I mentioned somewhere else, a lot Muslims in Western lands are not really religious at all, they dominate crime, drugs, prostitution rings (were the Rotherham pimps “religious”?), etc.

    • Replies: @Talha

    a lot Muslims in Western lands are not really religious at all, they dominate crime, drugs, prostitution rings
     
    Honestly, if that’s all we bring to the West then it is truly best (and well-deserved) that we get kicked out on our backsides.

    In this a second Dr. Elmasry’s sentiments:
    https://twitter.com/DrShadeeElmasry/status/1129000876629254144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1129000876629254144&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fkbarrett%2Fthe-european-new-right-symptom-of-the-wests-decline%2F

    Peace.

  46. “Gay men adopting a son is potentially less rare in real life for reasons that preclude the more common arrangement from ever being depicted in the world of corporate media entertainment.”

    My reaction to this is so viscerally negative as to cause me to cringe, instinctively.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Likewise. The boy like the one victimized in that story is among the most vulnerable in society.
  47. @Talha
    Yeah, Ramadan is over.

    Peace.

    Hmm. Well BengaliCanadianDude seemed to ramp up his posting during Ramadan (friends unavailable to hang out?) So does this mean he isn’t going to heaven?

    • Replies: @Talha
    I don’t decide who gets to go, that’s God’s purview. Attempting to make that call may result in me not getting in.

    Posting on online forums is not a sin, I just had priorities during that month; if I told you my schedule you’d think I was crazy.

    Peace.
  48. @Tusk
    Look at the ease of access that ten year old has to that open carried assault sword, a very dangerous idea indeed. This cartoon is regressive because any modern medieval society would pride itself on common sense sword reform and this is going to teach the new generation the wrong ideas. #SwordControlNOW!

    The stereotypes about gays being reckless is getting out of control, and here we have Hulu making things worse!

  49. @El Dato
    Members of this thread are now subject to a Level 2 hate speech offense.

    Attention community: unrest procedure code is now in effect. Inoculate, shield, pacify. Code: pressure, sword, sterilize.

    Don’t create free content to be monetized by those who hate you.

  50. @Rosie
    Agree. I would imagine that being part of deviant subculture would have a certain romance about it. Rejection by the larger society would reasonably be expected to intensify in group solidarity, creating that sense of belonging and identity that everyone craves. I suspect that a lot of gays were perfectly content with the status quo in the eighties, and it was probably in their best interest to maintain that, but certain people had another, more destructive agenda.

    I wish the Muslim lands the best of luck in facing down this subversion, but I must say I'm not optimistic. Globohomo will use every weapon, economic or military, to overcome any resistance.

    While I don’t have any way to quantify how common or uncommon it is, I’ve talked to multiple gay men who hate the “pride” culture. It takes what they view as the worst excesses of male homosexuality and makes those the defining characteristics of being a male homosexual. They are of course reluctant to ever say anything publicly about it. I’ve also talked to lesbians who think pride is a de facto celebration of male homosexuality, not homosexuality in general.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    I have two cousins who I suspect to be gay, one closeted and probably not practicing, the other out. The older brother is conservative, takes loving care of his ailing mother, and is red pilled as can be about the culture and racial narrative- living outside Baltimore certainly fuels this clarity. I get the sense that he really disapproves of his younger brother's leftist politics, always traveling and partying, not really there for his mother, placing more emphasis on the cultural/sexual distractions than on valuing family. I told him that someday (eg after his mother passes away) he needs to move to a small conservative town down south (such as where we live) and get away from the grind of the metro area.

    So yes, I have observed revulsion at the cultural excesses and degeneration among older, more cultured and discreet gays. Many of them are quite conservative.

  51. @Sid
    We're in an interesting confluence of interests and factors, as regards to pop culture.

    SJWs dominate what's made and reviewed, but they don't buy enough movie tickets and scarcely any merchandise.

    White male nerds used to buy tickets and all the merchandise, but they're increasingly fed up with the SJWs.

    Chinese movie audiences are the new thing. They were too poor in the 70s and 80s to have much nostalgia or a developed aesthetic taste. But they're Weihan Zhang not allow baizuo movies.

    What happens? I think white male nerds will increasingly withdraw from pop culture, finding and creating their own entertainment. Chinese will make their own damn movies. SJWs will lord over their empires of nothing. I can't wait for the people who financed them to go bankrupt.

    What about guys like us? With brains, taste, and fed up with their Woke propaganda?

    We should read our Homer, Virgil, Dante, and Shakespeare, and tell the white male saps paying for movie tickets to grow up already.

    Agree. There is a growing attempt to take those men away from us, of course, and the best way to resist it is to actually know about them. The Illiad and Odyssey are 180 degrees in opposition to everything the Woke totalitarians champion. I’m surprised they are still taught as part of the classics. They are still taught as such, right? Right?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    No.

    Not mentioned in school even once. And that's in Europe.

    But we discussed Marx (obligatory) and Sartre.

  52. @neutral

    I think white male nerds will increasingly withdraw from pop culture
     
    Despite all the jewish efforts, not all pop culture can be taken over by them. Japanese anime, certain computer gaming niches, pro wrestling, D&D can to a certain degree still be independent of direct jewish domination.

    The rot is internal. Blaming the Jews for everything is self-defeating.

    • Replies: @iffen
    The rot is internal. Blaming the Jews for everything is self-defeating.

    The JQ is a real bear, but it is easy enough to see why some see liberal Jews as the rotten apple in the barrel that spoils the entire lot.
  53. @Anonymoose
    15 years ago: "Why do you care what two consenting adults to in their spare time. No one is forcing you to participate. We just want to be left alone."

    Today: LGBT studies in school. teenagers being encouraged to to take hormone therapy. drag queen story time. Children being made to participate in 'pride' festivals. Corporations pandering to fags by becoming 'woke'. US state department using taxpayers money to enforce homoimperium over the world.

    Maybe it’s a really, really roundabout way of trying to deal with sub-Saharan African fertility. Our elites surely know what they’re doing!

  54. @Truth
    News flash!

    Once again, estimate that 90-95% of what you consider "females" on TV were born male. This is, if anything a low estimate, and has been the case since the advent of television. If you don't believe me, watch 'I Love Lucy' some time and get a load if how broad and flat "her" shoulders are.

    And Audie, if they made a reality show about a young, middle class white couple in Montana, adopting a white girl from Wyoming, would YOU be providing free publicity for it (i.e., writing an article about it)?

    Good, so you a complicitous part of the "liberal" media.

    I’d be happy to host a page with links to wholesome, morally edifying media alternatives, particularly directed towards parents with young children.

    But I’d need help–I’m totally out of touch with pop culture. The last tv series I watched was probably the HBO series Rome that lasted for two seasons back in the mid-2000s.

  55. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    Hmm. Well BengaliCanadianDude seemed to ramp up his posting during Ramadan (friends unavailable to hang out?) So does this mean he isn't going to heaven?

    I don’t decide who gets to go, that’s God’s purview. Attempting to make that call may result in me not getting in.

    Posting on online forums is not a sin, I just had priorities during that month; if I told you my schedule you’d think I was crazy.

    Peace.

  56. @Audacious Epigone
    The rot is internal. Blaming the Jews for everything is self-defeating.

    The rot is internal. Blaming the Jews for everything is self-defeating.

    The JQ is a real bear, but it is easy enough to see why some see liberal Jews as the rotten apple in the barrel that spoils the entire lot.

  57. @Audacious Epigone
    Agree. There is a growing attempt to take those men away from us, of course, and the best way to resist it is to actually know about them. The Illiad and Odyssey are 180 degrees in opposition to everything the Woke totalitarians champion. I'm surprised they are still taught as part of the classics. They are still taught as such, right? Right?

    No.

    Not mentioned in school even once. And that’s in Europe.

    But we discussed Marx (obligatory) and Sartre.

  58. @EliteCommInc.
    "Gay men adopting a son is potentially less rare in real life for reasons that preclude the more common arrangement from ever being depicted in the world of corporate media entertainment."


    My reaction to this is so viscerally negative as to cause me to cringe, instinctively.

    Likewise. The boy like the one victimized in that story is among the most vulnerable in society.

  59. @Dumbo
    I would wish Muslims well if they left European/North American/formerly Christian lands, as they don't, I don't find it is necessarily bad that they fall into the Globohomo trap, maybe it's their fitting punishment. I don't think that those that immigrate are helping anyone, not even themselves. Also, as I mentioned somewhere else, a lot Muslims in Western lands are not really religious at all, they dominate crime, drugs, prostitution rings (were the Rotherham pimps "religious"?), etc.

    a lot Muslims in Western lands are not really religious at all, they dominate crime, drugs, prostitution rings

    Honestly, if that’s all we bring to the West then it is truly best (and well-deserved) that we get kicked out on our backsides.

    In this a second Dr. Elmasry’s sentiments:

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    Yes, but see, I am against this headscarf ban. If a country is going to accept millions of immigrants, then they should accept them as they are. If not, just ban immigration. Or, if you're going to ban extraneous religious elements, then go the full way and make everyone convert to Christianity. If not, whats' the point?

    Assimilation doesn't work, or it takes really really long, and also there is the question of who assimilates to whom. I'd rather have people of other cultures or religions being easy to recognize, and headscarves help with that.

    What is needed is just a full stop to immigration in Europe, the rest is window-dressing.
  60. @Talha

    a lot Muslims in Western lands are not really religious at all, they dominate crime, drugs, prostitution rings
     
    Honestly, if that’s all we bring to the West then it is truly best (and well-deserved) that we get kicked out on our backsides.

    In this a second Dr. Elmasry’s sentiments:
    https://twitter.com/DrShadeeElmasry/status/1129000876629254144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1129000876629254144&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unz.com%2Fkbarrett%2Fthe-european-new-right-symptom-of-the-wests-decline%2F

    Peace.

    Yes, but see, I am against this headscarf ban. If a country is going to accept millions of immigrants, then they should accept them as they are. If not, just ban immigration. Or, if you’re going to ban extraneous religious elements, then go the full way and make everyone convert to Christianity. If not, whats’ the point?

    Assimilation doesn’t work, or it takes really really long, and also there is the question of who assimilates to whom. I’d rather have people of other cultures or religions being easy to recognize, and headscarves help with that.

    What is needed is just a full stop to immigration in Europe, the rest is window-dressing.

    • Replies: @Talha

    What is needed is just a full stop to immigration in Europe, the rest is window-dressing.
     
    I'm 100% down with this if that's what the population wants. Personally, I can only speak for the US (being a citizen). Europe is a whole other beast and my voice doesn't count there.

    I was really only concentrating on Dr. Elmasry's general statement which tells Muslims the sad but bitter truth; these are not our countries, we are not entitled to be fully accepted here (the headscarf thing is just a side point). We came here with hat in hand because of how we screwed up so many of our own countries. And my point on top of that is - from a metaphysical perspective - if we are not uplifting or otherwise making the countries that we come to better (mind you, this is not in a materialist sense at all) then we have betrayed our Divine mandate and it is best that we are sent home packing; 1) because we are simply ruining our souls by being in the West if we indulge in whatever degeneracy is easily available here (if we need a whip to keep us in check because we are too spiritually immature, so be it - it is better for us to face the Divine with a clean slate on the Day of Judgment*) and 2) because if we are predatory in our relationship with the rest of the populace, this will necessarily cause a revulsion in people's hearts towards accepting the faith due to us being such poor ambassadors - this really being the only sound reason to reside in a non-Muslim land in the first place.

    Peace.

    *“By Allah, it is not poverty I fear for you, rather I fear you will be given the wealth of the world, just as it was given to those before you. You will compete for it just as they competed for it and it will destroy you just as it destroy them.” - reported in Bukhari and Muslim
    , @Talha

    If a country is going to accept millions of immigrants, then they should accept them as they are. If not, just ban immigration.
     
    I think this is a very good point. I think a lot of problems are happening due to unsaid assumptions and unclear motivations or guidelines.

    I was speaking to my Swedish mother in law after one of her recent trips to Sweden and she said some of the population was perturbed by the fact that some immigrants weren’t doing things like letting their daughters participate in swimming competitions or other such things, as well as keeping some of their cultural norms.

    I told her I understood the concern, but that the government should then be crystal clear that if you come from, say, Somalia - then you are expected to become a cultural, liberal Swede within an X amount of time (even if it means ditching your faith). And only take those people that agree to such parameters. Don’t give them or yourselves false hopes based on some vague ideas about what the other party thinks will happen. The issue is too important for this kind of approach and will only lead to trouble and frustration.

    Peace.
    , @Anonymousse
    A full stop to immigration would be a start, but large scale repatriation of foreigners (including nominal citizens) needs to be the eventual goal or birth rates will doom us just as surely.
  61. @Dumbo
    Yes, but see, I am against this headscarf ban. If a country is going to accept millions of immigrants, then they should accept them as they are. If not, just ban immigration. Or, if you're going to ban extraneous religious elements, then go the full way and make everyone convert to Christianity. If not, whats' the point?

    Assimilation doesn't work, or it takes really really long, and also there is the question of who assimilates to whom. I'd rather have people of other cultures or religions being easy to recognize, and headscarves help with that.

    What is needed is just a full stop to immigration in Europe, the rest is window-dressing.

    What is needed is just a full stop to immigration in Europe, the rest is window-dressing.

    I’m 100% down with this if that’s what the population wants. Personally, I can only speak for the US (being a citizen). Europe is a whole other beast and my voice doesn’t count there.

    I was really only concentrating on Dr. Elmasry’s general statement which tells Muslims the sad but bitter truth; these are not our countries, we are not entitled to be fully accepted here (the headscarf thing is just a side point). We came here with hat in hand because of how we screwed up so many of our own countries. And my point on top of that is – from a metaphysical perspective – if we are not uplifting or otherwise making the countries that we come to better (mind you, this is not in a materialist sense at all) then we have betrayed our Divine mandate and it is best that we are sent home packing; 1) because we are simply ruining our souls by being in the West if we indulge in whatever degeneracy is easily available here (if we need a whip to keep us in check because we are too spiritually immature, so be it – it is better for us to face the Divine with a clean slate on the Day of Judgment*) and 2) because if we are predatory in our relationship with the rest of the populace, this will necessarily cause a revulsion in people’s hearts towards accepting the faith due to us being such poor ambassadors – this really being the only sound reason to reside in a non-Muslim land in the first place.

    Peace.

    *“By Allah, it is not poverty I fear for you, rather I fear you will be given the wealth of the world, just as it was given to those before you. You will compete for it just as they competed for it and it will destroy you just as it destroy them.” – reported in Bukhari and Muslim

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    Talha, if all Muslims were like you then there would hardly be any issues between Islam and the West, other than theological. The problem is, you're like 1 in 10,000. And when our own treacherous elites try to sell us on the great replacement, they put people like you on the cover-sheet and tell us to ignore the other 9999.
  62. @Dumbo
    Yes, but see, I am against this headscarf ban. If a country is going to accept millions of immigrants, then they should accept them as they are. If not, just ban immigration. Or, if you're going to ban extraneous religious elements, then go the full way and make everyone convert to Christianity. If not, whats' the point?

    Assimilation doesn't work, or it takes really really long, and also there is the question of who assimilates to whom. I'd rather have people of other cultures or religions being easy to recognize, and headscarves help with that.

    What is needed is just a full stop to immigration in Europe, the rest is window-dressing.

    If a country is going to accept millions of immigrants, then they should accept them as they are. If not, just ban immigration.

    I think this is a very good point. I think a lot of problems are happening due to unsaid assumptions and unclear motivations or guidelines.

    I was speaking to my Swedish mother in law after one of her recent trips to Sweden and she said some of the population was perturbed by the fact that some immigrants weren’t doing things like letting their daughters participate in swimming competitions or other such things, as well as keeping some of their cultural norms.

    I told her I understood the concern, but that the government should then be crystal clear that if you come from, say, Somalia – then you are expected to become a cultural, liberal Swede within an X amount of time (even if it means ditching your faith). And only take those people that agree to such parameters. Don’t give them or yourselves false hopes based on some vague ideas about what the other party thinks will happen. The issue is too important for this kind of approach and will only lead to trouble and frustration.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Dumbo
    A curiosity, are you a convert? Or are you an Arab married to a Swedish woman?
    I am afraid we will never be able to agree on anything. I don't think anyone from Somalia should even be in Sweden, regardless of assimilation to liberal or other values.
    I am against all Muslim and non-white immigration to Europe, and as for the U.S., I would severely limit it too, even though the U.S. is likely past the point of salvation. (I mean, what are they going to do with the millions and millions of Mexicans, and their children who are already US citizens?)
    Of course, Western countries should also stop supporting all these pointless wars in Muslim countries which are part of the problem.
    I am not a white nationalist, but I see nothing good coming from this mixture of religions, nationalities and races, and from the utopian progressive mindset. It will lead to conflict sooner or later, the only problem is that there will be nowhere to escape to. Well, maybe China or Russia, who knows, but I doubt it.
    It's no consolation, but it was always like this, History is just a series of catastrophes, we never learn.
  63. @Rosie
    Yet another slap in the face. MLP has been one of the rare bright spots in children's media. It's terrible the way these radicals can steal things from us like this.

    Any mass media property that’s not currently pozzed is just a vehicle for future poz delivery to its fans.

    It should be obvious by now that they’re coming for EVERYTHING eventually.

    Anyone with kids (and ideally anyone without) needs to consider radically unplugging from pop culture. Detox now and start establishing alternative cultural reference points within your own family and micro community.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Vox Day has alternatives. They're small in scale now but they all have big growth potential. Video is especially encouraging since the barriers to entry are pretty low and there is no obvious cultural monopoly for a site like Youtube in the same way there is for Twitter.

    Wikipedia -> Infogalactic encyclopedia
    Marvel/DC -> Arkhaven
    Netflix -> unauthorized.tv
    Drudge report -> Infogalactic news

    Minds, Gab, etc are at a distinct disadvantage because the primary attraction to Twitter is who users get to interact with there. That isn't the case with watching videos or looking up encyclopedia facts, though.
  64. @Dumbo
    Yes, but see, I am against this headscarf ban. If a country is going to accept millions of immigrants, then they should accept them as they are. If not, just ban immigration. Or, if you're going to ban extraneous religious elements, then go the full way and make everyone convert to Christianity. If not, whats' the point?

    Assimilation doesn't work, or it takes really really long, and also there is the question of who assimilates to whom. I'd rather have people of other cultures or religions being easy to recognize, and headscarves help with that.

    What is needed is just a full stop to immigration in Europe, the rest is window-dressing.

    A full stop to immigration would be a start, but large scale repatriation of foreigners (including nominal citizens) needs to be the eventual goal or birth rates will doom us just as surely.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  65. @Talha

    If a country is going to accept millions of immigrants, then they should accept them as they are. If not, just ban immigration.
     
    I think this is a very good point. I think a lot of problems are happening due to unsaid assumptions and unclear motivations or guidelines.

    I was speaking to my Swedish mother in law after one of her recent trips to Sweden and she said some of the population was perturbed by the fact that some immigrants weren’t doing things like letting their daughters participate in swimming competitions or other such things, as well as keeping some of their cultural norms.

    I told her I understood the concern, but that the government should then be crystal clear that if you come from, say, Somalia - then you are expected to become a cultural, liberal Swede within an X amount of time (even if it means ditching your faith). And only take those people that agree to such parameters. Don’t give them or yourselves false hopes based on some vague ideas about what the other party thinks will happen. The issue is too important for this kind of approach and will only lead to trouble and frustration.

    Peace.

    A curiosity, are you a convert? Or are you an Arab married to a Swedish woman?
    I am afraid we will never be able to agree on anything. I don’t think anyone from Somalia should even be in Sweden, regardless of assimilation to liberal or other values.
    I am against all Muslim and non-white immigration to Europe, and as for the U.S., I would severely limit it too, even though the U.S. is likely past the point of salvation. (I mean, what are they going to do with the millions and millions of Mexicans, and their children who are already US citizens?)
    Of course, Western countries should also stop supporting all these pointless wars in Muslim countries which are part of the problem.
    I am not a white nationalist, but I see nothing good coming from this mixture of religions, nationalities and races, and from the utopian progressive mindset. It will lead to conflict sooner or later, the only problem is that there will be nowhere to escape to. Well, maybe China or Russia, who knows, but I doubt it.
    It’s no consolation, but it was always like this, History is just a series of catastrophes, we never learn.

    • Replies: @Talha

    Or are you an Arab married to a Swedish woman?
     
    A Pakistani immigrant to the US married to a daughter of Swedish immigrant stock (my wife did convert).

    I am against all Muslim and non-white immigration to Europe, and as for the U.S., I would severely limit it too,
     
    Sure, every nation should have the right to decide what immigration policy is best for their national interest and if that means none, so be it.

    Of course, Western countries should also stop supporting all these pointless wars in Muslim countries which are part of the problem.
     
    Well, those are certainly NOT helping the situation.

    History is just a series of catastrophes, we never learn
     
    Interestingly, the late Gore Vidal stated that history was “...nothing more than the bloody record of the migration of tribes.”

    Peace.

    , @Mr. Rational

    the U.S. is likely past the point of salvation. (I mean, what are they going to do with the millions and millions of Mexicans, and their children who are already US citizens?)
     
    Does "the trail of tears" mean anything to you?

    Mexico claims ALL who trace their ancestry back to Mexico, to the third generation and beyond.  The US could simply agree to Mexico's definition, de-naturalize all who qualify by Mexico's rules and send them back to "the reservation" (drop them across the wall in Chihuahua).  Not easy, but simple.
  66. @Dumbo
    A curiosity, are you a convert? Or are you an Arab married to a Swedish woman?
    I am afraid we will never be able to agree on anything. I don't think anyone from Somalia should even be in Sweden, regardless of assimilation to liberal or other values.
    I am against all Muslim and non-white immigration to Europe, and as for the U.S., I would severely limit it too, even though the U.S. is likely past the point of salvation. (I mean, what are they going to do with the millions and millions of Mexicans, and their children who are already US citizens?)
    Of course, Western countries should also stop supporting all these pointless wars in Muslim countries which are part of the problem.
    I am not a white nationalist, but I see nothing good coming from this mixture of religions, nationalities and races, and from the utopian progressive mindset. It will lead to conflict sooner or later, the only problem is that there will be nowhere to escape to. Well, maybe China or Russia, who knows, but I doubt it.
    It's no consolation, but it was always like this, History is just a series of catastrophes, we never learn.

    Or are you an Arab married to a Swedish woman?

    A Pakistani immigrant to the US married to a daughter of Swedish immigrant stock (my wife did convert).

    I am against all Muslim and non-white immigration to Europe, and as for the U.S., I would severely limit it too,

    Sure, every nation should have the right to decide what immigration policy is best for their national interest and if that means none, so be it.

    Of course, Western countries should also stop supporting all these pointless wars in Muslim countries which are part of the problem.

    Well, those are certainly NOT helping the situation.

    History is just a series of catastrophes, we never learn

    Interestingly, the late Gore Vidal stated that history was “…nothing more than the bloody record of the migration of tribes.”

    Peace.

  67. @Talha

    What is needed is just a full stop to immigration in Europe, the rest is window-dressing.
     
    I'm 100% down with this if that's what the population wants. Personally, I can only speak for the US (being a citizen). Europe is a whole other beast and my voice doesn't count there.

    I was really only concentrating on Dr. Elmasry's general statement which tells Muslims the sad but bitter truth; these are not our countries, we are not entitled to be fully accepted here (the headscarf thing is just a side point). We came here with hat in hand because of how we screwed up so many of our own countries. And my point on top of that is - from a metaphysical perspective - if we are not uplifting or otherwise making the countries that we come to better (mind you, this is not in a materialist sense at all) then we have betrayed our Divine mandate and it is best that we are sent home packing; 1) because we are simply ruining our souls by being in the West if we indulge in whatever degeneracy is easily available here (if we need a whip to keep us in check because we are too spiritually immature, so be it - it is better for us to face the Divine with a clean slate on the Day of Judgment*) and 2) because if we are predatory in our relationship with the rest of the populace, this will necessarily cause a revulsion in people's hearts towards accepting the faith due to us being such poor ambassadors - this really being the only sound reason to reside in a non-Muslim land in the first place.

    Peace.

    *“By Allah, it is not poverty I fear for you, rather I fear you will be given the wealth of the world, just as it was given to those before you. You will compete for it just as they competed for it and it will destroy you just as it destroy them.” - reported in Bukhari and Muslim

    Talha, if all Muslims were like you then there would hardly be any issues between Islam and the West, other than theological. The problem is, you’re like 1 in 10,000. And when our own treacherous elites try to sell us on the great replacement, they put people like you on the cover-sheet and tell us to ignore the other 9999.

    • Replies: @Talha

    1 in 10,000
     
    Well, most of the traditional Muslims I associate with actually have the same feelings (as you can see from Dr. Shadee as well) so I don't think the numbers are that extreme. Are we in the majority? No, most Muslims - it is safe to say - likely don't pray the basic 5 daily prayers.

    they put people like you on the cover-sheet

     

    Trust me, the people in power despise people like me; we do not compromise our principles, we are a threat to their power and influence, it has always been this way. They like the Muslims they think they can bend to their way; liberal, consumer brown people wearing brand-name head scarves.

    Peace.
  68. @Dumbo
    A curiosity, are you a convert? Or are you an Arab married to a Swedish woman?
    I am afraid we will never be able to agree on anything. I don't think anyone from Somalia should even be in Sweden, regardless of assimilation to liberal or other values.
    I am against all Muslim and non-white immigration to Europe, and as for the U.S., I would severely limit it too, even though the U.S. is likely past the point of salvation. (I mean, what are they going to do with the millions and millions of Mexicans, and their children who are already US citizens?)
    Of course, Western countries should also stop supporting all these pointless wars in Muslim countries which are part of the problem.
    I am not a white nationalist, but I see nothing good coming from this mixture of religions, nationalities and races, and from the utopian progressive mindset. It will lead to conflict sooner or later, the only problem is that there will be nowhere to escape to. Well, maybe China or Russia, who knows, but I doubt it.
    It's no consolation, but it was always like this, History is just a series of catastrophes, we never learn.

    the U.S. is likely past the point of salvation. (I mean, what are they going to do with the millions and millions of Mexicans, and their children who are already US citizens?)

    Does “the trail of tears” mean anything to you?

    Mexico claims ALL who trace their ancestry back to Mexico, to the third generation and beyond.  The US could simply agree to Mexico’s definition, de-naturalize all who qualify by Mexico’s rules and send them back to “the reservation” (drop them across the wall in Chihuahua).  Not easy, but simple.

  69. @Intelligent Dasein
    Talha, if all Muslims were like you then there would hardly be any issues between Islam and the West, other than theological. The problem is, you're like 1 in 10,000. And when our own treacherous elites try to sell us on the great replacement, they put people like you on the cover-sheet and tell us to ignore the other 9999.

    1 in 10,000

    Well, most of the traditional Muslims I associate with actually have the same feelings (as you can see from Dr. Shadee as well) so I don’t think the numbers are that extreme. Are we in the majority? No, most Muslims – it is safe to say – likely don’t pray the basic 5 daily prayers.

    they put people like you on the cover-sheet

    Trust me, the people in power despise people like me; we do not compromise our principles, we are a threat to their power and influence, it has always been this way. They like the Muslims they think they can bend to their way; liberal, consumer brown people wearing brand-name head scarves.

    Peace.

  70. @Truth
    News flash!

    Once again, estimate that 90-95% of what you consider "females" on TV were born male. This is, if anything a low estimate, and has been the case since the advent of television. If you don't believe me, watch 'I Love Lucy' some time and get a load if how broad and flat "her" shoulders are.

    And Audie, if they made a reality show about a young, middle class white couple in Montana, adopting a white girl from Wyoming, would YOU be providing free publicity for it (i.e., writing an article about it)?

    Good, so you a complicitous part of the "liberal" media.

    Once again, estimate that 90-95% of what you consider “females” on TV were born male. This is, if anything a low estimate, and has been the case since the advent of television. If you don’t believe me, watch ‘I Love Lucy’ some time and get a load if how broad and flat “her” shoulders are.

    What a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Lucille Ball looked like a completely normal woman in swimsuit. The broad-shouldered look was common in midcentury fashion and achieved by shoulder pads or puff sleeves.

    Moreover, female swimmers have naturally much broader shoulders and they’re certified females (taking anti-cheating hormone tests.) What can even be the reasoning behind the belief in transsexual conspiracy? Aren’t most TV producers heterosexual men, don’t they know that “sex sells” and that most of the audience aren’t into ladyboy fetish?

    • Replies: @Truth
    My friend, as difficult as it is to believe, what I wrote above is fact. I have delved into the theory, reason, ramifications and future of this on numerous occasions and it is incredibly deep, complex, and goes back to the Old Testament, but don't feel like rehashing now.

    In any event, do your research, consult your eyes, and make y0ur own conclusions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab2IXibXzAg

    BTW; most TV producers are most certainly NOT heterosexual men, they are homosexuals, some by choice, some by financial necessity, as is the case with men at the top of every prestige industry.
  71. @Anonymousse
    Any mass media property that’s not currently pozzed is just a vehicle for future poz delivery to its fans.

    It should be obvious by now that they’re coming for EVERYTHING eventually.

    Anyone with kids (and ideally anyone without) needs to consider radically unplugging from pop culture. Detox now and start establishing alternative cultural reference points within your own family and micro community.

    Vox Day has alternatives. They’re small in scale now but they all have big growth potential. Video is especially encouraging since the barriers to entry are pretty low and there is no obvious cultural monopoly for a site like Youtube in the same way there is for Twitter.

    Wikipedia -> Infogalactic encyclopedia
    Marvel/DC -> Arkhaven
    Netflix -> unauthorized.tv
    Drudge report -> Infogalactic news

    Minds, Gab, etc are at a distinct disadvantage because the primary attraction to Twitter is who users get to interact with there. That isn’t the case with watching videos or looking up encyclopedia facts, though.

  72. @Truth
    Old Sport, with all possible respect to Twinkie, don't take your child rearing advice from random people you will never know, on the internet.

    There’s nothing wrong with gathering information online. You don’t have to treat every data point as Gospel. I don’t know enough people in real life in the category of (high IQ + religious conservative + successful grown children) to make many observations.

  73. @notanon
    we both went to very nasty schools so we over-compensated by getting ours into very safe schools and they turned out fine but they're soft as sh*t as a result which i don't think is going to be optimal given the way things are going.

    if i could do it again i'd probably go for a *slightly* bad school as a kind of vaccination and make up for the academic downside at home.

    Yeah, on the one hand, you worry about bad influences forming their peer group. But sheltering them entirely from bad influences may have consequences too. I’m watching one friend who is choosing to put his kids in public (rather than private Christian) school for this reason, even though he could easily afford the private school.

    I’ve picked up that kids these days never seem to fight or get bullied (at least not in an overt “gimme your lunch money” way). I got into tons of fights as a kid, even though I went to private school most of the time. Seems like it was educational and formative. I wouldn’t trust a leader who’s never been punched in the face.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    I got into tons of fights as a kid, even though I went to private school most of the time. Seems like it was educational and formative. I wouldn’t trust a leader who’s never been punched in the face.
     
    I grew up fighting a lot as well. But you don’t need to expose your children to the lowest common denominator elements to make them tough. My oldest does Judo and Jujitsu competitively and he goes to war with his training partners everyday (including me).

    Nobody messes with him, because he will drop you upside down face first if you get froggy. And then if you are still conscious, he will strangle you or snap your arms like a toothpick. And it will all be over in about 5 seconds. Lately he’s been catching me with this a lot:

    https://youtu.be/u18jIQfC6Hc

    Exactly like that. I try to get him with Uchimata and he’ll counter with Yoko Guruma.
    , @Lockean Proviso
    Going to a public school, if it's not too ghetto or dangerous, can be an enlightening experience through observation of the general apathy, stupidity, or hostility of some of their peers, especially if the administrators are peddling the Ed School "Prizes for All" nonsense. Kids who don't experience it firsthand because they're sheltered by a private education are susceptible to beliving the woke narrative on race and responsibility. There's no substitute for seeing it first hand, not through the false vision of Hollywood and buzzfeed.

    My daughter goes to the local public school and sees clearly. She doesn't take the rhetoric of participation trophies and 'we're all the same' at all seriously, indeed commenting on the falsity of some of the administrators. She's focused on working hard and makes excellent grades, seems to be a decent, non-egotistical, generious person, having good friends who feel the same way, and finding a career that will be viable in the times to come- about which she has no illusions.

    The best thing I can say about parenting is to always be honest with your children. They watch closely, so model what you would like to see them do.
  74. A few months back, I saw an Emirates commercial that had no obvious blacks in it. I don’t say that there weren’t any – I don’t know if there were some in the background or not, just none up front – and I was really surprised.

    A few days ago, I saw another one that starts of with an interracial couple: white father, black mother and daughter. The girl mentions her uncle, and he is a white guy with an Asian wife or girlfriend.

    Pretty curious that that would be the advert of a state-controlled Arab company. I am surprised because I thought Dubai had its own media center and I imagine that they would be loath to put money into the usual advertising agencies, as I assume, from the message of that last commercial, that they did.

    Of course, a lot of children aren’t even exposed to commercials any more, but I think that is wokest part of media.

    • Replies: @Truth
    2+2 Old Sport.

    There are not "independent nations." They all fall under the same cabal.
  75. @Toronto Russian

    Once again, estimate that 90-95% of what you consider “females” on TV were born male. This is, if anything a low estimate, and has been the case since the advent of television. If you don’t believe me, watch ‘I Love Lucy’ some time and get a load if how broad and flat “her” shoulders are.
     
    What a ridiculous conspiracy theory. Lucille Ball looked like a completely normal woman in swimsuit. The broad-shouldered look was common in midcentury fashion and achieved by shoulder pads or puff sleeves.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/eb/73/d4eb738ecbdfa454e268d4c8c173b28e.jpg

    https://collegian.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/1940s-spring-frocks-parade.jpg

    Moreover, female swimmers have naturally much broader shoulders and they're certified females (taking anti-cheating hormone tests.) What can even be the reasoning behind the belief in transsexual conspiracy? Aren't most TV producers heterosexual men, don't they know that "sex sells" and that most of the audience aren't into ladyboy fetish?

    My friend, as difficult as it is to believe, what I wrote above is fact. I have delved into the theory, reason, ramifications and future of this on numerous occasions and it is incredibly deep, complex, and goes back to the Old Testament, but don’t feel like rehashing now.

    In any event, do your research, consult your eyes, and make y0ur own conclusions.

    BTW; most TV producers are most certainly NOT heterosexual men, they are homosexuals, some by choice, some by financial necessity, as is the case with men at the top of every prestige industry.

  76. @songbird
    A few months back, I saw an Emirates commercial that had no obvious blacks in it. I don't say that there weren't any - I don't know if there were some in the background or not, just none up front - and I was really surprised.

    A few days ago, I saw another one that starts of with an interracial couple: white father, black mother and daughter. The girl mentions her uncle, and he is a white guy with an Asian wife or girlfriend.

    Pretty curious that that would be the advert of a state-controlled Arab company. I am surprised because I thought Dubai had its own media center and I imagine that they would be loath to put money into the usual advertising agencies, as I assume, from the message of that last commercial, that they did.

    Of course, a lot of children aren't even exposed to commercials any more, but I think that is wokest part of media.

    2+2 Old Sport.

    There are not “independent nations.” They all fall under the same cabal.

  77. @Sid
    You definitely have a solid point, and white men certainly should pursue physical activities.

    But there will always be unathletic, nerdy white men who would rather have fun with something nerdy. These men have been worth their weight in gold for the dis-right over the last five years, so it's not a moot concern either.

    white men certainly should pursue physical activities.

    All men should pursue physical activities. Otherwise we get fat and develop hemorrhoids.

    But there will always be unathletic, nerdy white men who would rather have fun with something nerdy.

    You don’t have to be athletic to shoot guns. MIT has one of the best shooting teams in the country.

    Anybody who can hold a knife can learn Kali and be a dangerous, dangerous human being with a blade (or a stick).

    And martial arts such as Judo and Jujitsu are kinetic chess/mind in motion. They are very appealing to smart guys. The latest thing in Jits is a bunch of nerds tapping burly guys with tricky leglock games.

  78. @Wency
    Twinkie, have you ever summarized your thoughts on parenting or have recommended reading? And what are your results? I was under the impression you have grown kids and things have gone well. Trying for children now with wife but not sure how to resist the culture without over-sheltering (which seems counter-productive in my experience unless you live in a permanently sheltered community, e.g. Amish).

    There probably needs to be a forum, here or elsewhere, for high IQ religious conservatives to compare notes on parenting. But I'm most interested in hearing from people with good end results, not someone with a 10-year-old with things "looking good so far".

    I know an old devout high IQ Catholic who is very proud of his 4 adult children and their high-flying East Coast careers. But it eventually came out that only 1 son still goes to Mass, and he only has a total of 3 grandchildren, and that's probably all he's going to get. One 12-year-old granddaughter identifies as a boy (and the parents of course support her). So I'm pretty reluctant to take advice from this guy.

    I was under the impression you have grown kids and things have gone well.

    My oldest is a teen. So far so good, but who knows in 5 years, let alone 15 or 20? I’m not deluded enough to think that I have that much influence.

    your thoughts on parenting

    First, marry well. Not only does your wife contribute roughly 50% of your children’s genes, she will spend more time with them than anyone else in the early part of their lives. Parents are the first teachers of their children. That goes double for the mothers.

    Then find a good community – people who share values and have children who can be friends (and later perhaps boyfriends/girlfriends and maybe even spouses) of your children.

    recommended reading

    I always suggest “Raising Self-Reliant Children in a Self-Indulgent World” by H. Stephen Glenn. Also, if you have girls “Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters.”

    Catholic who is very proud of his 4 adult children

    That’s not many for Catholics. Perhaps the kids got the message.

  79. @Wency
    Yeah, on the one hand, you worry about bad influences forming their peer group. But sheltering them entirely from bad influences may have consequences too. I'm watching one friend who is choosing to put his kids in public (rather than private Christian) school for this reason, even though he could easily afford the private school.

    I've picked up that kids these days never seem to fight or get bullied (at least not in an overt "gimme your lunch money" way). I got into tons of fights as a kid, even though I went to private school most of the time. Seems like it was educational and formative. I wouldn't trust a leader who's never been punched in the face.

    I got into tons of fights as a kid, even though I went to private school most of the time. Seems like it was educational and formative. I wouldn’t trust a leader who’s never been punched in the face.

    I grew up fighting a lot as well. But you don’t need to expose your children to the lowest common denominator elements to make them tough. My oldest does Judo and Jujitsu competitively and he goes to war with his training partners everyday (including me).

    Nobody messes with him, because he will drop you upside down face first if you get froggy. And then if you are still conscious, he will strangle you or snap your arms like a toothpick. And it will all be over in about 5 seconds. Lately he’s been catching me with this a lot:

    Exactly like that. I try to get him with Uchimata and he’ll counter with Yoko Guruma.

  80. @Audacious Epigone
    While I don't have any way to quantify how common or uncommon it is, I've talked to multiple gay men who hate the "pride" culture. It takes what they view as the worst excesses of male homosexuality and makes those the defining characteristics of being a male homosexual. They are of course reluctant to ever say anything publicly about it. I've also talked to lesbians who think pride is a de facto celebration of male homosexuality, not homosexuality in general.

    I have two cousins who I suspect to be gay, one closeted and probably not practicing, the other out. The older brother is conservative, takes loving care of his ailing mother, and is red pilled as can be about the culture and racial narrative- living outside Baltimore certainly fuels this clarity. I get the sense that he really disapproves of his younger brother’s leftist politics, always traveling and partying, not really there for his mother, placing more emphasis on the cultural/sexual distractions than on valuing family. I told him that someday (eg after his mother passes away) he needs to move to a small conservative town down south (such as where we live) and get away from the grind of the metro area.

    So yes, I have observed revulsion at the cultural excesses and degeneration among older, more cultured and discreet gays. Many of them are quite conservative.

  81. @Wency
    Yeah, on the one hand, you worry about bad influences forming their peer group. But sheltering them entirely from bad influences may have consequences too. I'm watching one friend who is choosing to put his kids in public (rather than private Christian) school for this reason, even though he could easily afford the private school.

    I've picked up that kids these days never seem to fight or get bullied (at least not in an overt "gimme your lunch money" way). I got into tons of fights as a kid, even though I went to private school most of the time. Seems like it was educational and formative. I wouldn't trust a leader who's never been punched in the face.

    Going to a public school, if it’s not too ghetto or dangerous, can be an enlightening experience through observation of the general apathy, stupidity, or hostility of some of their peers, especially if the administrators are peddling the Ed School “Prizes for All” nonsense. Kids who don’t experience it firsthand because they’re sheltered by a private education are susceptible to beliving the woke narrative on race and responsibility. There’s no substitute for seeing it first hand, not through the false vision of Hollywood and buzzfeed.

    My daughter goes to the local public school and sees clearly. She doesn’t take the rhetoric of participation trophies and ‘we’re all the same’ at all seriously, indeed commenting on the falsity of some of the administrators. She’s focused on working hard and makes excellent grades, seems to be a decent, non-egotistical, generious person, having good friends who feel the same way, and finding a career that will be viable in the times to come- about which she has no illusions.

    The best thing I can say about parenting is to always be honest with your children. They watch closely, so model what you would like to see them do.

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