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Biden, and possibly Bloomberg, are the only Democrat candidates who have a prayer of beating Sanders. Klobuchar and Buttigieg, who performed relatively well in the white states of Iowa and New Hampshire, did terribly among non-whites in Nevada. Warren continued to underperform across the board, and is set to bomb again next week. The percentages of voter support, by race, the top candidates received tonight:

Self-proclaimed socialist Sanders does best of all among Hispanics, the nation’s newest Americans. Boomercons who love immigration but hate socialism are BTFO.

Biden’s black advantage wasn’t as wide as it had been showing in national polls prior to Iowa, but he still managed to beat Sanders with a comfortable margin among them. Biden’s support in South Carolina, where blacks will comprise an outright majority of Democrat primary voters, suggested he is poised to win next week.

That provides the corporate media some pretense for crafting a comeback story–after finishing fourth and fifth in the first two states, he improves to second place in the third state and then wins the fourth contest free and clear. If they’re desperate enough, maybe they even put the full court press on president Obama to get him to endorse his former loyal lieutenant.

The establishment’s Bloomberg Hail Mary looks like a pick six. He has infinite resources and thus perpetual staying power, but his debate performance was atrocious, and that debate performance comes mere days before Biden shows he is still hanging on by his fingernails as the one non-Sanders candidate who conceivably has a path to victory. That Biden comeback, already a long shot, is made even more difficult by Bloomberg’s presence.

It is becoming exceedingly difficult to see how the establishment is going to steal the nomination from Sanders at this point.

 
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  1. I will just cut and paste what I wrote over at Steve Sailer’s blog.

    Since I can’t sleep, I will just say that I was hoping in 2016 for a Bernie vs. Donald contest. It would have made sense and probably was what The People™ wanted. A real choice. Whiskey vs. Wine instead of Coke vs. Pepsi.

    Do we have a chance for that now?

    Europeans sometimes say we Americans don’t really have the broad political smorgasbord that they have. This would be different, a real Left vs. Right…

    … Even though certain issues and subjects would remain off the table as always.

    Steve points out how wrong the R party has been to try to court Latino voters, how easily those voters go for government handouts. Commenters have also pointed out how anyone with a modicum of knowledge about Latin American history could easily predict this.

    As for my issues and subjects that remain off the table, those will remain unsaid at this point. Think for yourself. This is the place to do it.

  2. “hail marry”

    • Replies: @iffen
    @Cloudbuster

    “hail marry”

    Many marriages are Hail Marys.

    Many Hail Marys are marriages of a sort--politics, strange bedfellows, etc.

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Cloudbuster

    Heh thanks, fixed it. That's what I get for not capitalizing proper nouns at 3am--autocorrect wrecks me!

  3. Hey you woke people!

    Isn’t it about time we had a Jewish President?

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @iffen


    Isn’t it about time we had a Jewish President?
     
    We have one now.

    (And lest you think I'm kidding, name one thing about Trump that isn't Jewish, aside from the technical issue of blood/ethnicity. He's definitely more Jewish than our First Black President--Bill Clinton--was black..)

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  4. • Replies: @A123
    @Nodwink

    Sanders may be meme winning against his fellow Dems.

    He will be an easy mark in the General election.

    PEACE 😇
    ________

    https://imageproxy.ifunny.co/crop:x-20,resize:320x,crop:x800,quality:90x75/images/9f942a3d55625fb8c1c2dff1cedd29b864439bf31a1dd31e0d63206402159897_1.jpg

  5. @Cloudbuster
    "hail marry"

    Replies: @iffen, @Audacious Epigone

    “hail marry”

    Many marriages are Hail Marys.

    Many Hail Marys are marriages of a sort–politics, strange bedfellows, etc.

  6. I am impressed at how well Sanders is doing among Hispanics. I know wbat you are thinking, well of course, Hispanics love free stuff from the government and Bernie will give them the most free stuff, that’s why they like him. Yes that is a.part of it but there is more to it.

    I was reading a couple of articles at the Intercept. Bernie is reaching out to Hispanics more than any campaign has ever done. They found a Hispanic woman who was crying after voting for Sanders, She was overcome with emotion. She wasn’t crying over free stuff, she had an emotional attachment towards Bernie Sanders. That’s good politics.

    • Replies: @Not My Economy
    @Jay Fink

    Yes, exactly. Buttigeg hired a few white people with Hispanic last names and makes awkward speeches in part-spanish. That's their version of hispanic outreach. That's literally all they do. Meanwhile the Bernie campaign is literally talking to Hispanic people IRL and saying hey you should vote for my dude. Specifically based on some DSA twitter I scrolled last night, the Bernie campaign deployed more than a few light skinned thots to simply talk to low status immigrant men in Nevada. One of those so obvious nobody thought of it ideas. Right wing could easily replicate this idea. There are like tens of millions of white dudes out there who have never voted. This is our version of importing a new electorate, just get the guys who are already here.

  7. It’s funny how people still talk about the word socialism as if it meant anything.

    If by socialism you mean a comprehensive theory of political economy actually informed by the writings of Karl Marx, then that kind of socialism is long dead and will never return. The questions that vexed the finest minds of the mid 19th century are no longer comprehensible today. Nobody currently screaming for Bernie Sanders actually bothers about whether dialectical materialism is true or not, or at least might have something meaningful to say about the human condition. They don’t understand the phrase and they certainly couldn’t defend it in a form that would hold water for five minutes. They do not read books; and if they did actually bother cracking open Das Kapital, they would find therein something much more intriguing, more sedate, and infinitely deeper than their populist mass agitations for minimum wage and debt forgiveness. For the actual thought of Marx bears as little resemblance to political socialism as the speculations of Averroes bears to political Islam. Marx was concerned with problems, his self-styled followers with plunder. The true heirs of Marx are something like the Catholic Distributists, who at least recognize the real nature of the crisis of capital. They are a marginalized voice in a world afire.

    On the other hand, if by socialism you mean a vague preference for welfare states, progressive taxation, and social safety nets, then you can rest content that your hopes have been superceded by reality. If that’s what socialism is, then we’re all socialists now. Nobody from anywhere on the political spectrum will trouble himself to raise a voice against deficit spending or in favor of entitlement reform, even though it’s plain to see that “business as usual” is bankrupting and will bankrupt the nation. Bernie Sanders will only intensify this process. Socialism in this sense is merely the ultimate oligarchic corporation, the one that doesn’t even bother producing any kind of nominal product or service wherewith to justify its outsized gains. It is pure monopoly power without limit, a retailer not of goods but of “bads” that no one has the power to refuse.

    On the third hand, if by socialism you means some sort of green, solar-powered, Facebook-enabled walkable community where everyone gets UBI and eats drone-delivered pizzas, then you have no hope of satisfaction. Take a look at the roads and bridges in your town, the power stations, the millions of dilapidated buildings. Try to imagine how we’re going to affect a great recapitalizing Tobin’s Q on all this stuff when we’re already trillions of dollars in debt. Your future is more likely to consist of you swinging a pick on a road crew for 12 hours a day in return for a hot meal to take home to your family. In the last analysis—and this is one of those brute facts that the human race is remarkably bad at taking to heart—debt is simply consumption without production. These already consumed goods will need either to be replaced or done without in the future, regardless of whther or not the debt is “forgiven.” It does not matter what the ledger says; you cannot consume what has not been produced. For decades now, America has lived in a fantasy bubble that allowed hundreds of millions of people to eat without working. This will only be made good by the future millions who will sadly work without eating.

    That disgusting piece of rabble-rousing rot that goes by the name Bernie Sanders is simply a brief transitory step from the oligarchic ass-orgy of millennial America to the slavery and Caesarism of mid-century America. You may call it socialism if you wish, but there is no real ism about it. It is only weakness and decadence and collapse, without ideology, without flags, without “truths.”

    • Agree: Mr. Rational, Mark G.
    • Replies: @anon
    @Intelligent Dasein

    It’s funny how people still talk about the word socialism as if it meant anything.

    OK Boomer!

    You could have stopped right there. It would have been a good comment.
    But no, you had to go in search of a True Socialist Scotsman....



    ...yet never find him.

    lol.

    , @Talha
    @Intelligent Dasein


    For decades now, America has lived in a fantasy bubble that allowed hundreds of millions of people to eat without working. This will only be made good by the future millions who will sadly work without eating.
     
    Ouch...reminds me of that famous painting by Goya:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Francisco_de_Goya%2C_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo_%281819-1823%29.jpg/1200px-Francisco_de_Goya%2C_Saturno_devorando_a_su_hijo_%281819-1823%29.jpg

    Peace.
  8. I doubt Sanders will survive long enough to serve a term as president. He’ll be 79 before the election and had stents put in recently. He won’t release his medical records which, given his age and health, is a lot more important than a candidates tax returns. This means Sanders VP choice will be a lot more important than normal.

    Biden too is a dinosaur with noticeable dementia. Bloomberg is 78 too.

    None of these pre war relics can be expected to serve two terms though Bloomberg might survive one.

    • Agree: Thomm
    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @unit472

    "Bloomberg might survive one."

    As long as he doesn't pick Hillary as his running mate!

  9. As for Sen. Sanders, that’s the north east ‘coastals’ which are generally liberal . . . let’s see what happens when the campaigns move south and west.

    This election remains the current executives’s to lose.

    • Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @EliteCommInc.

    Nevada I doubt is a bell weather.

    Replies: @Simon

  10. @EliteCommInc.
    As for Sen. Sanders, that's the north east 'coastals' which are generally liberal . . . let's see what happens when the campaigns move south and west.


    This election remains the current executives's to lose.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    Nevada I doubt is a bell weather.

    • Replies: @Simon
    @EliteCommInc.

    bellwether.

  11. It is becoming exceedingly difficult to see how the establishment is going to steal the nomination from Sanders at this point.

    They figured out how to take it from Bobby Kennedy after he won California.

    If I were Bernie, I’d start taking my security very seriously.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @Daniel Williams

    Agreed, though I doubt Bernie will be assassinated. But it's idle at best to underestimate the power of the Establishment, including especially its Mass Media outlets.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

  12. Again, Trump wins easily (barring massive vote fraud).

    Five more years of the Great Man. MAGA!

  13. One side note is that there are THREE geezers who are ~78.

    That is waaay too old to start a Presidency. It exceeds the existing record (Trump) by eight full years.

    I suspect that the DNC is encouraging this so that Hillary can run again in 2024 (i.e. not against an incumbent).

    Alas, Chris Rock’s comedy bit from 2008, which explained why John McCain was too old even at 72, can be recycled for use over here (whether Rock likes it being used against a Dem or not).

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Thomm

    Trump and McConnell are also over 70, as is Pelosi. Schumer turns 70 this year, too. Mike Pence is a relative spring chicken in his early 60s.

    I'm not prepared to go so far to say that this is the main reason behind the sort of intellectual petrification that characterizes the higher levels of American politics. But it's hard not to conclude that an increasingly geriatric elite is a factor.

  14. @Nodwink
    Bernie is also winning the meme war https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/YDy5VJMZVcSdWVDnYgQl0-xVv3AiDurjMd1_FrvJcQXV90tMeK_C9TJOjwV9A6mSQa4YoWel3JywF4PLAl3hUnspGOa61NUOFHSeR0WbqgHNv7UmSQ1bT-40gJYkN3LqmZ-760H2

    Replies: @A123

    Sanders may be meme winning against his fellow Dems.

    He will be an easy mark in the General election.

    PEACE 😇
    ________

  15. It’s now the afternoon of the following day and I can’t find the actual Nevada results anywhere. I’m tired of looking (and I don’t click on NYT links). Even the AP (which Google quotes) comes up blank. They’re all showing only ~50% reporting. Isn’t this as bad as Iowa?

    Someone I saw pointed out that if this weren’t already in the bag for Bernie, there would be blood in the streets after yet another inconclusive/delayed result and poor performance by the DNC.

    If I’m wrong and 90% of precincts have reported by now, please someone show me where. Shouldn’t there be leader boards on the major sites, showing something more than 50% by now? The leaderboards all seem to have vanished overnight.

  16. @iffen
    Hey you woke people!

    Isn't it about time we had a Jewish President?

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Isn’t it about time we had a Jewish President?

    We have one now.

    (And lest you think I’m kidding, name one thing about Trump that isn’t Jewish, aside from the technical issue of blood/ethnicity. He’s definitely more Jewish than our First Black President–Bill Clinton–was black..)

    • LOL: iffen
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Mr McKenna

    I would click the AGREE button if it were available.

  17. @Daniel Williams

    It is becoming exceedingly difficult to see how the establishment is going to steal the nomination from Sanders at this point.
     
    They figured out how to take it from Bobby Kennedy after he won California.

    If I were Bernie, I’d start taking my security very seriously.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Agreed, though I doubt Bernie will be assassinated. But it’s idle at best to underestimate the power of the Establishment, including especially its Mass Media outlets.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    @Mr McKenna


    I doubt Bernie will be assassinated.
     
    He could have one of those heart attacks like Scalia had. You know, the kind where you put a pillow on your face as you’re dying as a hilarious practical joke?
  18. @Mr McKenna
    @iffen


    Isn’t it about time we had a Jewish President?
     
    We have one now.

    (And lest you think I'm kidding, name one thing about Trump that isn't Jewish, aside from the technical issue of blood/ethnicity. He's definitely more Jewish than our First Black President--Bill Clinton--was black..)

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    I would click the AGREE button if it were available.

  19. Bernie-Tulsi 2020, unstoppable.

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    @Gordo

    Please seek help before you snap and kill us all.

    , @nebulafox
    @Gordo

    Were I in charge of the DNC, that's the ticket I'd nominate. Gabbard complements Sanders uniquely well.

    Replies: @JL

  20. @Mr McKenna
    @Daniel Williams

    Agreed, though I doubt Bernie will be assassinated. But it's idle at best to underestimate the power of the Establishment, including especially its Mass Media outlets.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams

    I doubt Bernie will be assassinated.

    He could have one of those heart attacks like Scalia had. You know, the kind where you put a pillow on your face as you’re dying as a hilarious practical joke?

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
  21. @Intelligent Dasein
    It's funny how people still talk about the word socialism as if it meant anything.

    If by socialism you mean a comprehensive theory of political economy actually informed by the writings of Karl Marx, then that kind of socialism is long dead and will never return. The questions that vexed the finest minds of the mid 19th century are no longer comprehensible today. Nobody currently screaming for Bernie Sanders actually bothers about whether dialectical materialism is true or not, or at least might have something meaningful to say about the human condition. They don't understand the phrase and they certainly couldn't defend it in a form that would hold water for five minutes. They do not read books; and if they did actually bother cracking open Das Kapital, they would find therein something much more intriguing, more sedate, and infinitely deeper than their populist mass agitations for minimum wage and debt forgiveness. For the actual thought of Marx bears as little resemblance to political socialism as the speculations of Averroes bears to political Islam. Marx was concerned with problems, his self-styled followers with plunder. The true heirs of Marx are something like the Catholic Distributists, who at least recognize the real nature of the crisis of capital. They are a marginalized voice in a world afire.

    On the other hand, if by socialism you mean a vague preference for welfare states, progressive taxation, and social safety nets, then you can rest content that your hopes have been superceded by reality. If that's what socialism is, then we're all socialists now. Nobody from anywhere on the political spectrum will trouble himself to raise a voice against deficit spending or in favor of entitlement reform, even though it's plain to see that "business as usual" is bankrupting and will bankrupt the nation. Bernie Sanders will only intensify this process. Socialism in this sense is merely the ultimate oligarchic corporation, the one that doesn't even bother producing any kind of nominal product or service wherewith to justify its outsized gains. It is pure monopoly power without limit, a retailer not of goods but of "bads" that no one has the power to refuse.

    On the third hand, if by socialism you means some sort of green, solar-powered, Facebook-enabled walkable community where everyone gets UBI and eats drone-delivered pizzas, then you have no hope of satisfaction. Take a look at the roads and bridges in your town, the power stations, the millions of dilapidated buildings. Try to imagine how we're going to affect a great recapitalizing Tobin's Q on all this stuff when we're already trillions of dollars in debt. Your future is more likely to consist of you swinging a pick on a road crew for 12 hours a day in return for a hot meal to take home to your family. In the last analysis---and this is one of those brute facts that the human race is remarkably bad at taking to heart---debt is simply consumption without production. These already consumed goods will need either to be replaced or done without in the future, regardless of whther or not the debt is "forgiven." It does not matter what the ledger says; you cannot consume what has not been produced. For decades now, America has lived in a fantasy bubble that allowed hundreds of millions of people to eat without working. This will only be made good by the future millions who will sadly work without eating.

    That disgusting piece of rabble-rousing rot that goes by the name Bernie Sanders is simply a brief transitory step from the oligarchic ass-orgy of millennial America to the slavery and Caesarism of mid-century America. You may call it socialism if you wish, but there is no real ism about it. It is only weakness and decadence and collapse, without ideology, without flags, without "truths."

    Replies: @anon, @Talha

    It’s funny how people still talk about the word socialism as if it meant anything.

    OK Boomer!

    You could have stopped right there. It would have been a good comment.
    But no, you had to go in search of a True Socialist Scotsman….

    [MORE]

    …yet never find him.

    lol.

  22. It is becoming exceedingly difficult to see how the establishment is going to steal the nomination from Sanders at this point.

    In a nutshell …

  23. I think they will simply assassinate him. He already had a heart attack so if he had another one it would not look too suspect, the media will also no doubt shut down any talk from people questioning it as being Russian bots.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @neutral

    "He hung himself in his campaign bus.... Then the rope broke and he landed on five bullets... Then he had a heart attack."

    I hate when that happens.

  24. @Gordo
    Bernie-Tulsi 2020, unstoppable.

    Replies: @Twodees Partain, @nebulafox

    Please seek help before you snap and kill us all.

  25. Unless I have misunderstood, it looks like fewer than 10,000 Nevadans voted/caucused. There are three million people living in Nevada. So how is that indicative of anything? It might mean that Bernie’s people were more motivated to show up, but even so, that seems to have been only about 4,000 people. This could be taken to mean that 2,996,000 (99.9% of Nevadans) do not give a damn about him, and about the same percentage for the Democrat primary at all.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @William Cobbett

    Unless I have misunderstood, it looks like fewer than 10,000 Nevadans voted/caucused. There are three million people living in Nevada. So how is that indicative of anything?

    It's heavily Hispanic and the establishment was hoping that Hispanics would go for Biden or at least be divided in their opinions. They want a brokered convention so Bloomberg or Biden can win by superdelegates even if Sanders is the favorite of the people.

    It's unlikely that Hispanics in other areas will vote much differently.

    That's why the establishment is freaked out.

    , @A123
    @William Cobbett

    I believe over 40,000 Democrats participated.

    Candidate -- 2nd Round
    Sanders -- 21,869
    Biden -- 10,317
    Buttigieg -- 10,240
    Warren -- 6,544
    Steyer -- 1,953
    Klobuchar -- 4,441

    You may be seeing at the County Delegate count, which is a not particularly meaningful tally of ~10K.

    The top 3 will get National Delegates and Sanders did not clear 50%.

    The Brokered Convention scenario is still live.

    PEACE 😇

  26. @William Cobbett
    Unless I have misunderstood, it looks like fewer than 10,000 Nevadans voted/caucused. There are three million people living in Nevada. So how is that indicative of anything? It might mean that Bernie's people were more motivated to show up, but even so, that seems to have been only about 4,000 people. This could be taken to mean that 2,996,000 (99.9% of Nevadans) do not give a damn about him, and about the same percentage for the Democrat primary at all.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    Unless I have misunderstood, it looks like fewer than 10,000 Nevadans voted/caucused. There are three million people living in Nevada. So how is that indicative of anything?

    It’s heavily Hispanic and the establishment was hoping that Hispanics would go for Biden or at least be divided in their opinions. They want a brokered convention so Bloomberg or Biden can win by superdelegates even if Sanders is the favorite of the people.

    It’s unlikely that Hispanics in other areas will vote much differently.

    That’s why the establishment is freaked out.

  27. @William Cobbett
    Unless I have misunderstood, it looks like fewer than 10,000 Nevadans voted/caucused. There are three million people living in Nevada. So how is that indicative of anything? It might mean that Bernie's people were more motivated to show up, but even so, that seems to have been only about 4,000 people. This could be taken to mean that 2,996,000 (99.9% of Nevadans) do not give a damn about him, and about the same percentage for the Democrat primary at all.

    Replies: @John Johnson, @A123

    I believe over 40,000 Democrats participated.

    Candidate — 2nd Round
    Sanders — 21,869
    Biden — 10,317
    Buttigieg — 10,240
    Warren — 6,544
    Steyer — 1,953
    Klobuchar — 4,441

    You may be seeing at the County Delegate count, which is a not particularly meaningful tally of ~10K.

    The top 3 will get National Delegates and Sanders did not clear 50%.

    The Brokered Convention scenario is still live.

    PEACE 😇

  28. @neutral
    I think they will simply assassinate him. He already had a heart attack so if he had another one it would not look too suspect, the media will also no doubt shut down any talk from people questioning it as being Russian bots.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    “He hung himself in his campaign bus…. Then the rope broke and he landed on five bullets… Then he had a heart attack.”

    I hate when that happens.

  29. @unit472
    I doubt Sanders will survive long enough to serve a term as president. He'll be 79 before the election and had stents put in recently. He won't release his medical records which, given his age and health, is a lot more important than a candidates tax returns. This means Sanders VP choice will be a lot more important than normal.

    Biden too is a dinosaur with noticeable dementia. Bloomberg is 78 too.

    None of these pre war relics can be expected to serve two terms though Bloomberg might survive one.

    Replies: @Cloudbuster

    “Bloomberg might survive one.”

    As long as he doesn’t pick Hillary as his running mate!

  30. @Jay Fink
    I am impressed at how well Sanders is doing among Hispanics. I know wbat you are thinking, well of course, Hispanics love free stuff from the government and Bernie will give them the most free stuff, that's why they like him. Yes that is a.part of it but there is more to it.

    I was reading a couple of articles at the Intercept. Bernie is reaching out to Hispanics more than any campaign has ever done. They found a Hispanic woman who was crying after voting for Sanders, She was overcome with emotion. She wasn't crying over free stuff, she had an emotional attachment towards Bernie Sanders. That's good politics.

    Replies: @Not My Economy

    Yes, exactly. Buttigeg hired a few white people with Hispanic last names and makes awkward speeches in part-spanish. That’s their version of hispanic outreach. That’s literally all they do. Meanwhile the Bernie campaign is literally talking to Hispanic people IRL and saying hey you should vote for my dude. Specifically based on some DSA twitter I scrolled last night, the Bernie campaign deployed more than a few light skinned thots to simply talk to low status immigrant men in Nevada. One of those so obvious nobody thought of it ideas. Right wing could easily replicate this idea. There are like tens of millions of white dudes out there who have never voted. This is our version of importing a new electorate, just get the guys who are already here.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
    • Thanks: Lockean Proviso
  31. @EliteCommInc.
    @EliteCommInc.

    Nevada I doubt is a bell weather.

    Replies: @Simon

    bellwether.

  32. @Thomm
    One side note is that there are THREE geezers who are ~78.

    That is waaay too old to start a Presidency. It exceeds the existing record (Trump) by eight full years.

    I suspect that the DNC is encouraging this so that Hillary can run again in 2024 (i.e. not against an incumbent).

    Alas, Chris Rock's comedy bit from 2008, which explained why John McCain was too old even at 72, can be recycled for use over here (whether Rock likes it being used against a Dem or not).

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Trump and McConnell are also over 70, as is Pelosi. Schumer turns 70 this year, too. Mike Pence is a relative spring chicken in his early 60s.

    I’m not prepared to go so far to say that this is the main reason behind the sort of intellectual petrification that characterizes the higher levels of American politics. But it’s hard not to conclude that an increasingly geriatric elite is a factor.

    • Agree: Audacious Epigone
  33. @Gordo
    Bernie-Tulsi 2020, unstoppable.

    Replies: @Twodees Partain, @nebulafox

    Were I in charge of the DNC, that’s the ticket I’d nominate. Gabbard complements Sanders uniquely well.

    • Replies: @JL
    @nebulafox

    My personal preference would be to have Gabbard as Secretary of State, she could do more good there. Of course, considering Sander's age, the VP spot takes on more significance than usual this time around.

  34. @nebulafox
    @Gordo

    Were I in charge of the DNC, that's the ticket I'd nominate. Gabbard complements Sanders uniquely well.

    Replies: @JL

    My personal preference would be to have Gabbard as Secretary of State, she could do more good there. Of course, considering Sander’s age, the VP spot takes on more significance than usual this time around.

  35. The Democrats have returned to the Russian theme.

    They are now claiming Putin is supporting Bernie Sanders in the 2020 elections…

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @nymom

    And isn't that just hilarious?

    Discrediting the "muh Russia!" hoax among the Bernie Bros is an own-goal of epic dimensions.

  36. Sanders Sailing

    Bernie Sanders may be in his luxury Vermont bathrobe and merino wool bunny slippers on the deck of his palatial lakeside estate compound on fancy Lake Champlain, and he may be drinking the most expensive gourmet coffee picked from coffee plants precariously perched on some exotic foreign hillside, and he may be singing the syrupy and sappy 1979 “Sailing” song from Christopher Cross, but Bernie Sanders has done nothing yet but obliterate my AUNT JEMIMA STYRATEGY theory — which I stopped calling a prediction after Nevada’s caucus results.

    Bernie Sanders left the noise and menace and hurly burly of Brooklyn behind to find his green sylvan paradise in Vermont. Bernie Sanders loves the English and the French and the Irish and the Germans and other White people in Vermont. Bernie Sanders is the strongest Second Amendment supporter of all known Bolshevik Jews currently running, and I got to think that a lot of White guys in the Great Lakes states are aware that Bernie the Bolshevik is good on guns.

    My prediction that the Bernie Bros and the Bernie Broads would bolt the Democrat Party after Biden wrapped up the Democrat Party nomination on March 3 and head for the Green Party looks like it ain’t gonna play out.

    My larger purpose has always been to destroy the evil two-party totalitarianism in the USA, and I thought that Bernie Sanders could be the wedge to splinter and rip apart the Democrat Party.

    Now it looks like the Greedy Upper Middle Class Whites and the Greedy White Geezers will be slowly filtering out of the Bernie Sanders-led Democrat Party — to where, nobody knows. But it is clear that many portions of the Democrat Party would rather lose to Trump again than vote for and support a guy named Bernie Sanders who might wreck their precious and profitable globalizer neoliberalism gravy train.

    Bernie Sanders is wiggling his Bolshevik toes in his comfy merino wool bunny slippers on the deck of his lakeside Vermont luxury estate compound fortress singing: Sailing…takes me away…just a dream and the wind to carry me…and soon I will be president of this whole damn son-of-a-bee!

    Bernie’s fellow lakeside estate dwellers are wondering how far out the little plastic buoys will extend once the Bolshevik one assumes the emperorship of the American Empire.

  37. The Founding Fathers of the USA would consider the evil and immoral nation-wreckers that infest the so-called “American” Israel Public Affairs Committee to be much more of a threat to the safety, security and sovereignty of the USA than any Castro type turd could ever be.

    Bernie The Bolshevik Jew Is Telling The Sovereignty-Sapping Jews At AIPAC To Bugger Off!

  38. @nymom
    The Democrats have returned to the Russian theme.

    They are now claiming Putin is supporting Bernie Sanders in the 2020 elections...

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    And isn’t that just hilarious?

    Discrediting the “muh Russia!” hoax among the Bernie Bros is an own-goal of epic dimensions.

  39. how many democratic voters are white , 40 %,50%?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @ariel

    Nationwide, just a hair over 50%.

  40. Loving it!!! Will be very pleased if these guys keep throwing money at the problem and still losing:

    On a side note:

    the speculations of Averroes bears to political Islam

    Well, Imam Ibn Rushd’s fatwa work is still considered a pillar and a referential point in the Maliki school (and that would cover fatwas on governance):
    “The Preferred (rajih) verdict:
    In technical usage, the preferred is that whose proof is strong, but that is only in respect of a mujtahid in the school who is able to examine the strength of the evidence in transmission and meaning. As for the imitator, mufti and qadi who are limited in fatwa and judgement, what is preferred is that which was preferred by the scholars of the school who have the full qualifications for exercising preference*. The mention of what is preferred is found in the original books, as it appears in the work of Shaykh Khalil in his Mukhtasar when he mentioned the choice of al-Hasan al-Lakhmi, the preference of Ibn Yunus, declaration of Ibn Rushd, and the position of al-Maziri.”

    His speculations about causality and such subjects…not so much.

    Peace.

    *One of the highest levels one can reach in any of the schools.

  41. @Intelligent Dasein
    It's funny how people still talk about the word socialism as if it meant anything.

    If by socialism you mean a comprehensive theory of political economy actually informed by the writings of Karl Marx, then that kind of socialism is long dead and will never return. The questions that vexed the finest minds of the mid 19th century are no longer comprehensible today. Nobody currently screaming for Bernie Sanders actually bothers about whether dialectical materialism is true or not, or at least might have something meaningful to say about the human condition. They don't understand the phrase and they certainly couldn't defend it in a form that would hold water for five minutes. They do not read books; and if they did actually bother cracking open Das Kapital, they would find therein something much more intriguing, more sedate, and infinitely deeper than their populist mass agitations for minimum wage and debt forgiveness. For the actual thought of Marx bears as little resemblance to political socialism as the speculations of Averroes bears to political Islam. Marx was concerned with problems, his self-styled followers with plunder. The true heirs of Marx are something like the Catholic Distributists, who at least recognize the real nature of the crisis of capital. They are a marginalized voice in a world afire.

    On the other hand, if by socialism you mean a vague preference for welfare states, progressive taxation, and social safety nets, then you can rest content that your hopes have been superceded by reality. If that's what socialism is, then we're all socialists now. Nobody from anywhere on the political spectrum will trouble himself to raise a voice against deficit spending or in favor of entitlement reform, even though it's plain to see that "business as usual" is bankrupting and will bankrupt the nation. Bernie Sanders will only intensify this process. Socialism in this sense is merely the ultimate oligarchic corporation, the one that doesn't even bother producing any kind of nominal product or service wherewith to justify its outsized gains. It is pure monopoly power without limit, a retailer not of goods but of "bads" that no one has the power to refuse.

    On the third hand, if by socialism you means some sort of green, solar-powered, Facebook-enabled walkable community where everyone gets UBI and eats drone-delivered pizzas, then you have no hope of satisfaction. Take a look at the roads and bridges in your town, the power stations, the millions of dilapidated buildings. Try to imagine how we're going to affect a great recapitalizing Tobin's Q on all this stuff when we're already trillions of dollars in debt. Your future is more likely to consist of you swinging a pick on a road crew for 12 hours a day in return for a hot meal to take home to your family. In the last analysis---and this is one of those brute facts that the human race is remarkably bad at taking to heart---debt is simply consumption without production. These already consumed goods will need either to be replaced or done without in the future, regardless of whther or not the debt is "forgiven." It does not matter what the ledger says; you cannot consume what has not been produced. For decades now, America has lived in a fantasy bubble that allowed hundreds of millions of people to eat without working. This will only be made good by the future millions who will sadly work without eating.

    That disgusting piece of rabble-rousing rot that goes by the name Bernie Sanders is simply a brief transitory step from the oligarchic ass-orgy of millennial America to the slavery and Caesarism of mid-century America. You may call it socialism if you wish, but there is no real ism about it. It is only weakness and decadence and collapse, without ideology, without flags, without "truths."

    Replies: @anon, @Talha

    For decades now, America has lived in a fantasy bubble that allowed hundreds of millions of people to eat without working. This will only be made good by the future millions who will sadly work without eating.

    Ouch…reminds me of that famous painting by Goya:

    Peace.

  42. “bellwether.”

    understood

    I doubt its that either.

  43. @Cloudbuster
    "hail marry"

    Replies: @iffen, @Audacious Epigone

    Heh thanks, fixed it. That’s what I get for not capitalizing proper nouns at 3am–autocorrect wrecks me!

  44. @ariel
    how many democratic voters are white , 40 %,50%?

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone

    Nationwide, just a hair over 50%.

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