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At the moment, anyway:

He also appears to be one of the least ideologically driven. The Florida governor has mastered the material. When it comes to the scientific literature applicable to Covid, no other mainstream politician knows it better. Many on the dissident right mock and disdain the normie right’s celebration of liberty at the expense of other values. Whatever the merits of liberty over other values like order, though, DeSantis has delivered the former while no one in America has made much progress on the latter.

For greybeards politically conscious during the George W. Bush regime, it’s stunning to see the total embrace of the Bush and Cheney clans by the mainstream left and correspondingly encouraging to see the rejection of Bush/Cheney neoconnery by the Republican electorate.

Liz Cheney is far more popular among Democrats than she is among Republicans. The GOP’s base is running her out of the party. Good riddance. Let Democrats own military intervention in the service of global empire. As trust, competency, and currency collapse in America, allow the bipartisan political class to buckle under the weight of the problems they created.

Conservative Inc might be trying to sell its supporters on Caitlyn Jenner, but the Republicans’ grassroots isn’t buying it. Are politics in California so different from the rest of the US that Jenner has a prayer here or is the candidacy a combination of self-promotion and senility that won’t fare much better in the Golden State than it would in flyover country?

 
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  1. People like Americans who still have a pair. That’s what appealed to them about Trump. He simply speaks up for what he sees is right or wrong, depending on the case. He’s not yet cowed by the crazies. One gets the impression that he’d fight them all while supporting a bull on his shoulders…lol

  2. Twinkie says:

    Agree with everything here, except the following:

    For greybeards politically conscious during the George W. Bush regime, it’s stunning to see the total embrace of the Bush and Cheney clans by the mainstream left

    It’s important to remember that demographics associated with political labels have changed over time (even demographic labels themselves – compare “Asians” of today vs. “Asians” c. 1992 in America – have different demographic compositions compared to the past). It’s not at all stunning that Liz Cheney is more readily embraced by “the mainstream left,” because the latter category contains a substantial fraction of former Republicans (the corporatists, the college-educated, the socially liberal pocketbook Republicans, the foreign interventionists, and whatnot) who have become today a significant part of the leftist coalition. So Cheney isn’t so much accepted by old liberals of the W Bush years so much as those who have crossed into the anti-Trump and anti-populist/nationalist camp with her. It’s simply yet another manifestation of the ongoing political realignment in this country.

  3. Timely.

    That next Most Important Election Ever is never more than four years away.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  4. Stargazer says:

    Ron DeSantis is my Governor. Thank God!

  5. Good piece from the Wall Street Journal from March about DeSantis’ method in responding to COVID: https://www.wsj.com/articles/vindication-for-ron-desantis-11614986751

    Rather than denying the seriousness of the pandemic, DeSantis viewed official recommendations skeptically and sought out other expert advice to tailor his approach. Relative to the leaders in Asia, Florida’s response was of course a catastrophe. But within the USA, DeSantis’ approach produced a modest death rate without major economic or social disruption in what is America’s second oldest state.

    This serious approach also augurs well for addressing other matters.

    Unfortunately I think that Trump will run for the nomination again.

    As for Liz Cheney, I certainly am not shedding any tears for her. However, it should be noted that her actual voting record is more conservative than some of the shallow Trumpists knifing her. The sad reality of Trumpism is that Trump does not deserve his magnificent supporters and is consumed by his own petty grievances. He displays a frequent tendency of throwing real nationalists and conservatives under the bus in favor of sycophants who do not place America First. Remember Jeff Sessions.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund, Catdog, AP
    • Thanks: Audacious Epigone
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  6. I like the idea of a President DeSantis, but it is worrisome how deeply he genuflects to the star.

    Then again, who among the most palatable doesn’t?

    • Agree: Sick of Orcs
    • Replies: @Sick of Orcs
  7. @Thorfinnsson

    This serious approach also augurs well for addressing other matters

    Career politicians work the system more effectively than newcomers. The difference between Trump and DeSantis needs no further explanation.

    The current British government in the UK is how DeSantis might be if elected President. They are highly popular and are quietly getting nationalism done.

    https://www.ft.com/content/9740512b-7807-48b4-b735-6af4597a829e

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/16/government-race-report-evidence

    https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/19302416.peter-gibson-world-turning-blue-just-getting-started/

    They speak in a way that is acceptable in liberal circles, but they don’t pander. They also introduce legislation, piece by piece, working towards their more nationalist goals, while making vague promises in the progressive direction.

    People get feelgood liberalism and the realities of nationalist protection. Surely the perfect combination.

    • Thanks: TomSchmidt
    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Joe Paluka
  8. mc23 says:

    There’s a conservative blog named PowerLine that has several writers. Some of them are involved with the Claremont Institute or other right wing think tanks.

    One of them wrote a piece pushing Jenner’s candidacy. They must have gotten a lot of push back in their comments. Another writer on the blog wrote a column about the piece and compared the comments about it to a “he said, she said” moment.

    That’s when I realized they were probably floating a trial balloon and it represented a service to their think tanks. What awful elites the right have.

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @The Alarmist
  9. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:

    I like the idea of a President DeSantis, but it is worrisome how deeply he genuflects to the star.

    Then again, who among the most palatable doesn’t?

    But DeSantis pledged to be the most pro-Israel governor. Now doubt he’d do the same as President while also placating the globalist oligarchs. He’ll be George Bush with populist talking points.

    Ron DeSantis’ Law Banning Criticism of Israel Has Huge First Amendment Implications

    …[Florida Governor-] DeSantis championed and signed a bill that essentially bans criticism of Israel.

    2019’s HB 741 bans any speech in the public school systems of Florida deemed to be “making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations” about Jews or “the power of Jews as a collective,” such as “the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.”

    HB 741 also bans “applying a double standard to Israel by requiring behavior of Israel that is not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation, or focusing peace or human rights investigations only on Israel.”

    https://libertyconservativenews.com/ron-desantis-law-banning-criticism-of-israel-has-huge-first-amendment-implications/

    “We’ll be prosecuted if we criticize Israel and Jews, but hey, we don’t have to wear masks outside so DeSantis is great!”

  10. @Greta Handel

    Your comment will appear after approval from the schoolmarm.

    Why do many of my comments on this blog sit in moderation, even as others pile up? I can’t imagine that it’s because

    Racial slurs, dehumanizing language, personal identifying information, spamming, the advocation of illegal activity, or excessive profanity will not be approved.

    And after all,

    Approval of a comment does not imply endorsement of its contents by the authors of this blog or by The Unz Review.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
    , @TomSchmidt
  11. Curle says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Meanwhile Asa Hutchinson is on tv talking about how disappointed the Senate is by the punishment of traitors and how Trump needs to ride into the sunset for ‘unity’. These guys are hopelessly clueless.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  12. songbird says:

    Remarkable how much support has crystallized behind Kamala, who I believe never won a primary. Biden, for a doddering old man, has impressive numbers also.

  13. Curle says:
    @mc23

    The Claremont Institute is mostly a good thing. They offered a platform for Mencius Moldbug (good) but they’ve also, in the past, articulated an Jaffa -esq perspective on Lincoln and the Civil War, which is ridiculous.

    BTW – I’m encouraged by the numbers of people who are starting to connect the dots between Lincoln’s power grab and our current state of affairs.

  14. @Anonymous

    When I am weighing up my freedoms, the one to live my life ordinarily comes above the privilege of using state institutions to try to organise a boycott of a small country on the other side of the world.

    Why are you different?

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
  15. Escher says:
    @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    People like Americans who still have a pair.

    Then Caitlyn is in trouble.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  16. Cheney -38. i never thought i’d see the day.

    i wonder what the numbers are on GW Bush today. incredibly, this guy gets worse with age, not better. i already had him as one of the worst 5 Presidents all time. with his insane, incomprehensible media appearances this year though, i have to move him to third worst ever, just barely ahead of Biden and Obama. yes, Bush 2 is WORSE than Clinton – by a good amount. it’s not even close, and Billy boy was pure scum.

    what a piece of work this guy is. what President goes on television 15 years later to campaign yet again for his least popular policy, amnesty? and then he says hey, get rid of this Anglo-Saxon stuff, that’s for losers. it’s hard to fathom just how fucking terrible this guy was and apparently still is. why don’t all the Bushes go live in Mexico already.

  17. at least it’s good to see nobody likes the tranny. hopefully the tranny and homo promotion that the Trump people did doesn’t take, and core Republican voters continue to reject this ludicrous bullshit. normalizing homos is one thing, normalizing trannys is pure insanity. fuck off with Lada MAGA and Richard Grennell.

    any Republican politician who can’t automatically vote against chopping the dicks off 12 year old boys or blocking men trying to play women’s sports should just resign immediately. we’re way beyond ‘casually trying to sidestep the culture wars so i can get back to making money in the business world’. we’re into nation destroying madness. that should be the easiest vote any Republican ever casts – yet a few of them STILL can’t do the right thing.

  18. Many on the dissident right mock and disdain the normie right’s celebration of liberty at the expense of other values. Whatever the merits of liberty over other values like order, though, DeSantis has delivered the former while no one in America has made much progress on the latter.

    What about the liberty of Floridan small business owners to exclude anti-vaxxers from their stores?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
  19. The Cheney Organized Crime Syndicate is a mob of treasonous, money-grubbing scumbags.

    I spoke to Dickweed Treasonite Cheney on the radio in 2001. His spawn called Liz Cheney is a dirtbag globalizer treasonite just like her rancid puke father.

    I wrote this in October of 2018 about my radio show talk with Dick Cheney:

    I talked to Dick Cheney in April of 2001 about why US military officers were leaving the military.

    I brought up the collusion of the American Empire’s ruling class with the ruling class of China.

    I told Dick Cheney that the post-1965 generation of army officers were leaving the US military because of their revulsion at the baby boomer leadership of the US military and their revulsion at the transnational elite.

    Rough partial transcript of Charles Pewitt speaking to Cheney:

    The transnational elite — people like the Bush family and the Cheneys — who benefit immensely from having all their commercial enterprises protected in places like Kosovo — in fact that was a commercial enterprise created for people like Mr. Cheney to benefit from.

    And also the China trade, which we saw both parties were bought and paid for by the corporate interests solely so companies like General Electric, Honeywell and Lockheed could not only sell rocket technology to the Chinese Army but also the huge cheap labor market…

    Pewitt talks to Cheney on Diane Rehm radio show, relevant portion starts at 27:45:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/but-but-but-what-about-russian-tweets/#comment-2556051

    https://dianerehm.org/shows/2001-04-11/vice-president-dick-cheney

  20. Liz Cheney is far more popular among Democrats than she is among Republicans. The GOP’s base is running her out of the party. Good riddance. Let Democrats own military intervention in the service of global empire. As trust, competency, and currency collapse in America, allow the bipartisan political class to buckle under the weight of the problems they created.

    I say:

    Dick Cheney got a cut of that Balkan Intervention Globaloney loot doled out by the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire. Liz Cheney must’ve got her cut too.

    The Cheney Organized Crime Syndicate pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders and sovereignty-sapping, job-killing trade deal scams and endless unnecessary war all over the globe to create profit projects for ruling class stooges such as Dick Cheney.

    The only thing decent about Dick Cheney is that he is bald and somewhat short like me.

    I recounted my radio show run-in with Dick Cheney in September of 2018:

    Dick Cheney Accused Charles Pewitt Of Engaging In A “Conspiracy Theory”

    Deep State Dirtbag Dick Cheney Dragged The American Empire Into The Iraq War Debacle

    Dick Cheney And His Corporation Profited From The American Empire’s Intervention Into The Balkans

    Once More Unto The Accusations Of “Conspiracy Theorizing” From Dickweed Neo-Con Whoreboy Cheney

    In April of 2001, the treasonous scoundrel Dick Cheney suggested that I was engaging in a “conspiracy theory” when I talked about how the American Empire’s military involvement in the Balkans financially benefited his former company Brown and Root(Halliburton) and Cheney himself.

    The American Empire had no damn business getting involved in the Balkans except for the business of provisioning the American Empire. Provisioning the overseas antics of the American Empire is a good damn business for some people, Cheney included.

    Cheney accuses me of reading one too many “conspiracy theories.” The relevant part starts at 27:45:

    https://dianerehm.org/audio/#/shows/2001-04-11/vice-president-dick-cheney/103859/@00:00

  21. Ron DeSantis is a ruling class whore in a real estate sandbar called Florida.

    Chance of honesty about the Fed and stock market and bond market and real estate market asset bubbles from DeSantis is zero like the federal funds rate.

    DeSantis puts the interests of Israel over and above the interests of the USA. DeSantis is a treasonous whore.

  22. @mc23

    What awful elites the right have.

    Ironic, coming from a movement whose earliest thought-leader once penned “I would rather be governed by the first 2000 people in the Manhattan phone book than the entire faculty of Harvard.”

    Wasn’t he a Yalie? Now that I give it more thought, it is easy to spot the subtle misdirection in that quote, and there you have American Conservatism boiled down to its essence.

  23. @Escher

    People like Americans who still have a pair.

    Then Caitlyn is in trouble.

    Did Bruce Caitlyn actually go through with the Surgery? He She It said it did, but can anyone believe a prospective politician?

  24. A123 says:

    it’s stunning to see the total embrace of the Bush and Cheney clans by the mainstream left and correspondingly encouraging to see the rejection of Bush/Cheney neoconnery by the Republican electorate.

    Why is this surprising? The DNC has always been the War Party. The presence of NeoConDemocrats in the GOP was always a huge problem. They wanted to expend military assets and not pay for them.

    The GOP has always been the Peace Party, backed up with a big stick. Si vis pacem, para bellum — If you want peace, prepare for war. Returning GW Bush, Dick Cheney, and the NeoConDemocrats to their traditional home is a long over due return to normality.

    We have the heroic Donald Trumpwalker leading against the evil empire. Dick Cheney has been cast as Darth Vader for decades. And, we all know that Emperor Palpatine is George IslamoSoros. Open [MORE] for illustrations.

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]


     

    • Agree: Mark G.
  25. Most of the boomers voting in these polls will be dead soon, hopefully.

    In another decade, America’s most favorably viewed political actor will be AOC. Another decade of rural white opioid deaths of despair and boomer die-off will do America immeasurable good.

    • Disagree: Audacious Epigone
  26. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    People like Americans who still have a pair.

    If an un-castrated Trump will let the Chinese walk all over him and steal the election, I suppose there’s really not much left to American masculinity.

    • Replies: @Alexander Turok
  27. Curle says:
    @Anonymous

    This is a hero bill. I’m a huge cynic but even I’d be shocked if the most liberal federal court in the country let this stand.

    • Replies: @A123
  28. @Kent Nationalist

    Both aren’t on the menu.

    I also find it bizarre that the OP seems to want to go hungry because he can’t have six ice cubes in his drink, instead of five, with his burger and fries.

  29. A123 says:
    @Curle

    This is a hero bill. I’m a huge cynic but even I’d be shocked if the most liberal federal court in the country let this stand.

    The bill prevents using the resources and platform of Public Schools to spread racism, Anti-Semitism, and *unequal* criticism of Israel.

    For example:
    • Hamas & Hezbollah openly commit war crimes, such as using civilians as human shields.
    • The IDF does what it can, but the use of human shields are not under Israel’s control.

    It is not unreasonable to sanction teachers and professors who use their position to spread obvious disinformation. Sadly, Jihadi propaganda is a real issue in Public Schools, especially Public Universities. Anti-Semitic lessons frequently include:
    • Pushing bogus investigations of Israel
    • Ignoring terrorist War Crimes

    The bill seems Constitutionally permissible. However, SCOTUS endorsed the anti-Constitutional Blue Coup. Therefore, one cannot use documents, rationality, or common sense to predict rulings coming from the Fascist Nine.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @RudyM
  30. anon[119] • Disclaimer says:

    No “vaccine passport” in Florida, largely due to DeSantis.

    Norwegian Cruise Line threatens to skip all Florida ports. DeSantis apparently not concerned.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/cruise-line-may-flee-florida-over-ban-on-vaccine-passport/ar-BB1gtQpL

    NCL is the 3rd cruise line in size, the other two lines would no doubt pick up the slack. Not a real smart fight for them to pick.

  31. Curle says:
    @A123

    Only use of term Blue Coup in search engine refers to Argentina. There was a reference recently to Red List (not by you) for which there was no coherent reference picked up by search engine. Could you use a reference term that search engines will recognize unless, of course, you mean Argentina?

    For the record, I’d prefer we quit teaching social issues in public schools altogether. I doubt there’s any slanderous or unbalanced propaganda relating to Israel that is any worse than that directed towards America’s enemies in WW2 or the Confederacy and heck, the former hapless Speaker of the House of Reps made a public ass of himself making sure we all knew he supports the worst of it.

    • Replies: @A123
  32. @Greta Handel

    Someone more authoritative might answer, but meanwhile:

    Why do many of my comments on this blog sit in moderation, even as others pile up?

    I gather that Ron Unz has deployed an heuristic to discourage spammers, but the heuristic catches some random nonspam, as well.

    Some of my comments wait in moderation, too. It seems to be random. I’ve stopped worrying about it.

  33. A123 says:
    @Curle

    Only use of term Blue Coup in search engine refers to Argentina.

    You should not need to search for Blue Coup. Based on context it is fairly obvious that the DNC is associated with the color and Blue Coup refers to the Harris/Biden overthrow of the U.S. Constitution.

    That SJW Globalist search tools fail to properly return results on Blue Coup is very sad but unsurprising.

    For the record, I’d prefer we quit teaching social issues in public schools altogether.

    This is not an unreasonable idea.

    However, a critical step towards that goal is eradicating SJW racism & Anti-Semitism from Public Schools. HB741’s removal of fabrication & incitement will assist your effort as it directly steps on those who are injecting social issues for personal, racist, fascist, and/or political gain.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Curle
  34. Curle says:
    @A123

    The problem with the Constitution is it was overthrown a long time ago. Even Lincoln’s wasn’t the first real crime in that regard. Joseph Story and the majority in Martin v. Hunters Leasee ultimately deserve blame for setting the destruction in motion. Lincoln simply being the bastard wishing to cement the logic of the earlier crime.

    Frankly, it is odd to have an American party called Republican at all given that neither party in this country shows any inclination to live in an actual republic.

  35. nickels says:

    zionist cuck like all the rest.

  36. IMO, Governor Desantis is a role-model for all aspiring civil leaders.

    If I was gay and Califronian, I’d marry him.

    However, he looks a bit too young for President of the USA, and that’s a worry.

    I read a Tasmanian mystic’s vision re the World Trade Center in New York about 15 years before they went down, and he also had something to say about “two young men, one of whom he understood to be the President of the United States, on the steps at the front of a large white building”.

    Just so you know.

  37. @Greta Handel

    I suspect when you become known to the OP as a non-Troll, you’ll go on the insta-approve list. I’m on that list with some columnists here at UNZ, and not with others.

    You haven’t seemed trollish to me, Greta, so your day of being lifted out of the playpen is soon at hand.

    • Replies: @Greta Handel
  38. @Supply and Demand

    Trump’s attempt to deny he lost the election, summed up:

  39. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    It’ is the Democrats whom the Chinese walked all over and embarrassed recently. They even laughed at them openly. Trump, they respected. Trump was removed by deep state forces, media, tech moguls, democrat party elite,. He can’t even have a Facebook page. lol The left has controlled this nation for the last sixty years. They clearly overlooked Trump becoming president. They wouldn’t allow it a second time. No nation except one that is becoming extremely corrupt, would allow the things they Biden or is communist, would ever do the things too Americans that the Biden Administration does.. Despite the establishment media and democrat party(same thing) leaders B.S.claims to the contrary, no rational person believes the election was legitimate, nor do they believe Jan. 6 was an “insurrection.”

  40. @Triteleia Laxa

    I think you’ve just insulted Desantis by comparing him to those motley fools in the British government. What have they done for the British people? If you think getting out of the EU will do anything except pushing Britain more into the American sphere of influence, you’re fooling yourself. The Boris Johnson regime have done nothing but pushed every form of multiculturalism on the British people, increased surveillance on dissidents, increase immigration from the third world, taken away freedoms of speech and assembly and treat law-abiding citizens like they’re prisoners in Dartmoor. Boris Johnson’s government is much closer to that of communist China than that DeSantis would create.

  41. @TomSchmidt

    Thanks, although shouldn’t this be cleared up by the Original Poster? (I had to look up “OP.”)

    The blogs on this site tend to have more suppressed discussions. Mr. Sailer, in particular, seems inclined to “whim” on the basis of content. When a comment doesn’t appear until much later and way back upthread, it’s not only frustrating to me, but impedes the exchange among commenters.

  42. @Joe Paluka

    Delivering us from the EU was positive. I’d rather be in a “sphere of influence ” than an actual subject state.

    [MORE]

    The project started by Michael Gove to bring schools back to education and away from progressive talking points is good. As is the pressure applied to the BBC.

    They have also chipped away at a lot of immigration enabling legislation.

    Token gestures like Dominic Raab refusing to take the knee to #BLM and stating that he would only do so for his wife and the Queen seem small, until you see Pelosi and co. wearing Kente cloths and debasing themselves.

    Otherwise, they are a moderate party governing in the economic middle and social middle. I support this too, as I prefer that the governing party take the easy option on most things, so that they can prioritise the most pressing issues; and the most pressing issue is the devaluing of what used to be the nationalist assumption.

    Johnson, having reviewed it positively, seems to understand the “Submission” approach. Be gradual and use your political capital on immigration and education to succeed. On everything else, just be bland and in the middle.

    And special mention to Priti Patel. She is a better patriot than most here, and the vast majority elsewhere. She has taken on the poisoned chalice of Home Secretary and shown courage. Say whatever you want, but you won’t change the fact that she gets demonised every day for showing the spine to try to run the border properly.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  43. @Triteleia Laxa

    Thanks for this perspective. If that is actually BJ’s strategy, I’ve not read it elsewhere but from you. Kind of the opposite of Trump, whose rhetoric stimulated his opponents to electoral wins, but whose actual accomplishments on his agenda were slight.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
  44. @TomSchmidt

    There are many big differences between the UK and the US. These are often forgotten because the end result policies have been fairly similar over the last few decades.

    Why they have been similar is a separate, but interesting point of discussion.

    [MORE]

    First, while the Republicans are the Washington Generals, the Conservative party are the Harlem Globetrotters.

    Second, the mainstream (printed) press leans right in the UK.

    Third, while Biden won the DC vote by 95% or whatever, the Westminster constituency election is safely Conservative, even if Brexit has diminished that.

    What these facts mean are not that Britain gets socially conservative policies. No one in the West believes in the enforcement of those.

    Instead, we will get policies which protect the predominace of the Conservative party (along with some soft paternal patriotism), and it is increasingly obvious that all of these progressive fads threaten that predominance and so have to be rooted out.

    It may not be pretty, but this is standard conservatism the world over. It is healthy, rather than a beautiful abstraction.

    Another way to see it: the Republican party loves to lose. The Conservative party does not.

    • Thanks: V. K. Ovelund, dfordoom
  45. RudyM says:
    @A123

    • The IDF does what it can, but the use of human shields are not under Israel’s control.

    OK, Jew.

    • LOL: A123
    • Replies: @A123
  46. A123 says:
    @RudyM

    I am a Christian not a Jew.

    And, you are repeating myths that were thoroughly debunked years ago.

    Lying for your Ayatollah, is lost cause. There is no way he can credibly smear Palestinian Jews living in their home land of Jewish Palestine (a.k.a. Israel)

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Supply and Demand
  47. nebulafox says:

    Let the damned squabbling Semites kill each other. America has far more dire problems than anything going on in the so-called “Holy Land”. McConnell and Omar represent Newton’s 3rd Law, applied to idiocy.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
  48. RudyM says:

    More deception by the Israelis:

  49. @A123

    Protestantism is just charismatic Judaism, A123.

  50. @The Alarmist

    DeSantis loves the Star People, but per your comment, they all do.

    DeSantis fell for #covidhoax, but they all did.

    I do not believe Orange Golfer will run again, he’s pretty much forgotten except as a (((fake news))) bogeyman.

    We may not have a country in 3 years.

    Interesting times, indeed.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @nebulafox
  51. @Joe Paluka

    I guess you can dig out good things to say about any government or leaders. Boris Johnson has never served time in Dartmoor nor has it ever been recorded that he beat up any old ladies.

    Priti Patel can’t be a British nationalist any more than Joe Biden can be a Japanese nationalist. She is an Indian and is of a foreign race.

    Third world nations for the people who originated there, western nations for everyone. This is an opinion that I do not agree with.

    • Replies: @A123
  52. @Dr. Charles Fhandrich

    People like Americans who still have a pair. That’s what appealed to them about Trump.

    Yes, that’s a huge factor. It’s one reason Trump fared so well among Hispanics in 2020. Because he’s not some 21st Century Schizoid Man, but a real man. Not a perfect, or even necessarily a great man. But one who isn’t a neutered fake, either.
    That still counts for a lot among a wide range of voters.

    • Replies: @Dr. Charles Fhandrich
  53. A123 says:
    @Joe Paluka

    BoJo was very woke as London Mayor. While PM, he has focused on BREXIT. He closed a deal with the EU. Then his administration promptly invoked sovereignty to keep Northern Ireland in the UK, protect UK fishing, and several or other less visible wins.

    Every time I look I wonder if BoJo’s victories are “because of him” or “in spite of him”. Even it is benign neglect, he is still scoring more Conservative party wins than May or Cameron. Which is, admittedly, a very low hurdle.

    The closest U.S. parallel I can think of is Marco Rubio. As long as MAGA is rolling forward, Rubio will stay behind the ball and keep it moving. However if things go awry, he is likely to be headed towards cover or jumping ship. Not great, but much better than Romney or McConnell.

    PEACE 😇

  54. A123 says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    Trump and MAGA are hardly forgotten. His endorsements are pure gold in state races. Liz Cheney fell in large part because the new Populist GOP is still tied to Trump. As the House primaries and general elections get closer, he will be filling rallies for MAGA candidates.

    If DeSantis or someone else can break through, odds are Trump will not run again. The perpetual threat of a 2nd term run is in many ways more valuable than holding the office for 4 years.

    Trump was a visionary President for strategy, but lost some battles he could have captured with better tactics. He can stay more with his natural strength “vision & strategy” without the brutal, grinding, day-to-day flood of detail that hits the President’s desk. The risk is Trump working at cross purposes with another MAGA leader.

    PEACE 😇

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  55. nebulafox says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    I think Israeli sensibilities on the free speech of American citizens should have the same restrictive power as Russian, Chinese, Iranian, Indian, Korean, Mexican, Turkish or indeed Palestinian ones should: absolutely none.

    But that in mind, nothing Israel can possibly do compares to what China wants and can get out of America’s rentier elites. So, priorities. I think we’re a lot more likely to get backbone out of DeSantis than the CoC purist alternatives on offer.

    (Incidentally, my attitude toward the Palestinians is similar to my attitude over Hong Kong or Tibet: none of our business. I’m only concerned with how foreign nations impact the US. That said, they can do their dirty work with their own money and time, not ours, and they have no say in how American citizens voice their opinions.)

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  56. anon[327] • Disclaimer says:

    Without Trump, DeSantis would be just another republican.

    Trump gives life, a direction, to the few with testosterone
    and America first values.

  57. @A123

    I’ll vote for Trump if he’s the nominee, but I don’t really want him back. If he comes back, kushner comes back. Trump flubbed his four years badly. There’s no reason to expect anything new.

  58. @nebulafox

    In spite of the wackier claims, Israel indeed has way too much power over congress. I have yet to hear–other than insane religious argument–how “our most important ally” benefits the US. It’s a money pit for everyone except defense contractors.

  59. @Servant of Gla'aki

    Well put. It is a tribute to many Hispanics that they did not fall for the fake news’s and democrat parties (same thing) B.S. and lies. about Trump. It seems many understood his overall attitude for what is good for this country, more so than so many dumb as a box of rocks white liberals. I have nothing but the greatest respect for the insight of those Hispanics.

  60. @Anonymous

    “We’ll be prosecuted if we criticize Israel and Jews, but hey, we don’t have to wear masks outside so DeSantis is great!”

    Your point is understood, but it is also true that if they had to pick one to have the power structure permit them to do, either criticize Israel or go maskless, most voters would choose the latter.

  61. @Alexander Turok

    It’s on a relative scale. Freedom of association isn’t something any major elected leader supports so fas as I’m aware.

    Excluding the unvaccinated is going to have disparate impact. The optics will be terrible when some store tells a black man he can’t come in right after they let a white guy through. The historical comparisons are just too easy. It’ll cause a lot of Narrative malfunction, too. I await a viral instance of it happening.

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