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The map below depicts demographic majorities of 4th grade public school students by state:

Most states remain majority-white, but the four most populous states do not. Consequently, the nationwide elementary public school population is now majority-minority. Assuming current demographic trends continue, the country will likewise have become majority-minority by the time these students reach middle-aged adulthood.

The following table lists states by the percentage of the 4th grade public school student population that is non-Hispanic white:

State %white
1) Vermont 90
2) West Virginia 89
3) Maine 88
4) New Hampshire 85
5) Montana 79
6) Wyoming 78
7) North Dakota 77
8) Idaho 75
8) Kentucky 75
10) Iowa 74
10) Utah 74
12) South Dakota 73
13) Ohio 69
14) Missouri 68
15) Wisconsin 67
16) Indiana 65
16) Michigan 65
16) Nebraska 65
19) Kansas 63
19) Minnesota 63
19) Pennsylvania 63
22) Oregon 62
23) Tennessee 61
24) Arkansas 60
25) Massachusetts 57
26) Rhode Island 56
27) Alabama 53
27) Colorado 53
29) Connecticut 52
30) Washington 50
31) South Carolina 49
31) Virginia 49
33) Illinois 46
33) North Carolina 46
33) Oklahoma 46
36) Alaska 45
37) Louisiana 44
37) Mississippi 44
39) New York 43
40) Delaware 42
40) New Jersey 42
42) Arizona 41
43) Florida 39
44) Georgia 36
45) Maryland 33
46) Nevada 31
47) Texas 27
48) New Mexico 24
49) California 21
50) Hawaii 13
50) Washington DC 13

Though the Great Replacement is a conspiracy theory only those wishing to be hurled into the void dare discuss, it is hard not to notice that in all of the once reliably red states now in the process of becoming blue–Texas, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina–the next generation is majority non-white. It’s almost as though Democrats cannot lose in states where most of the population is not white.

 
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  1. We are fucked.

    • Replies: @216
    Belarus or Bust
    , @Screwtape
    Or of you write for the NYTimes, “our greatest strength” is coming roughly from south to north. But real Progress, or ‘Real Americans’ replacing racist americans is happening in places like Washington State.

    Unless you are white. Then your obvious replacement being celebrated 24/7 in the media and politik is a right-wing conspiracy theory.

    Looks like I’m gonna have to keep my wool sweaters for my next move.
    , @Oblivionrecurs
    This is how fucked we are


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  2. “Majority-minority” is a rather unintelligent term. While I acknowledge that there is some political and sociological salience to measuring the percentages of whites, this term agglomerates people – American blacks, various different kinds of Hispanics, and vastly different Asians – into one “blob” of “minority.”

    At minimum, I think it will be more useful to look at white plurality across the states, rather than white vs. “majority-minority” numbers.

    it is hard not to notice that in all of the once reliably red states now in the process of becoming blue–Texas, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina–the next generation is majority non-white. It’s almost as though Democrats cannot lose in states where most of the population is not white.

    It’s important, though, not to overstate the case and feed into the left’s demographical triumphalism. For example, control of the Virginia state legislature recently flipped to the Democrats (for the first time in 26 years, the latter will control both the governorship and the legislature in Virginia), and the Washington Post couldn’t stop crowing about how a “new majority” of nonwhites is overturning the GOP in the state.

    The problem is, a lot of those “nonwhites” are unnaturalized immigrants and didnt (couldn’t) vote. What happened was a combination of:

    1) Demographic changes – not so much white vs. non-white in nature, but a massive influx of northerners following the money/jobs and a sizable outflow of native Virginians to farther South (mostly North Carolina and Tennesee);

    2) The judiciary’s interference – but for the left-appointed judges mandating jerrymandering of several key districts for supposed “previous racial bias,” the GOP would have kept control of the lower house;

    3) The GOP’s self-immolation – Republicans failed to field candidates in a quarter of the House of Delegates races and simply gave up the fight in those areas (which allowed the Democrats to concentrate resources into the swing districts – and they won nearly all of them). The Republican Party of Virginia has been dogged in the past decade or so by utter incompetence and spent all its energey infighting and failed to retain the party’s influence, let alone expand its reach (e.g. it has failed to train and deploy field staff – some observers noted in the swing districts that they saw Democrat canvassers outnumber Republican ones 5-to-1); and

    4) Socio-economic swifts in party ID – the Washington Post and a whole lot of people fiaxate on Northern Virginia, but this election was, in reality, lost around the suburbs of Richmond. DC suburbs have always been vote-cows for the Democrats – that hasn’t changed much. But, this wasn’t a state-wide election, but a state senate and house election, meaning what happened in Northern Virginia had little to do with what happened in the rest of the state. In the past, the professional/upper middle class Richmond suburbs were strongly Republican and served as a backstop for the GOP losses around the DC suburbs. In this election the GOP was absolutely routed in those suburbs peopled by “pocketbook Republicans.” This is in great part a result of the realignment of the GOP becoming more Trumpist. Rural and downscale (white) areas of the state have become much more strongly Republican, but suburban and professional class whites (esp. women) have become very strongly anti-Trump, and this trend is accelerating beyond the large metropolitan areas to the belts around mid-sized cities.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    I don't follow Virginia politics so this is why I ask: How many 'former' CIA employees are representing VA in DC? If the answer is more than one maybe I should follow Virginia politics. I think 'former' DCI Brennan is following the Soros model by inserting operatives into local and federal political slots. It's as if the State Department, CIA, and DOJ aren't enough for these power-crazed beasts.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    "Majority-minority" is the corporate media term of choice. According to Wikipedia, it was first used in a 1977 Supreme Court case.

    That doesn't mean it's not a suboptimal term. But the way it is being used here does not merely indicate the lack of a white majority. In California, Texas, and New Mexico, Hispanic students are a majority (and in DC, blacks are a majority) and so these are consequently distinguished on the map from the majority minority states where there is no racial majority.
  3. NOTE: I had composed the following comment as a reply to this comment by our host, AE, in the “Removing Politics from Politics” thread. Realizing, however, that thread would be closing imminently, I decided to post here instead.

    On average the UR commentariat scores, I would imagine, very low on agreeableness.

    Let me take this opportunity to express my appreciation to the host of this blog, Audacious Epigone, for his policies and work in moderating comments. It’s one of the main reasons why he is one of the few authors besides Steve Sailer whom I’ve sometimes commented under. I’ve found the heat-to-light ratio I’ve observed in, shall we say, less-curated sections of UR (or perhaps, in some cases at least, differently curated) tends to be too unfavorable to make subjecting oneself to them worth the effort. Life’s just too taxing already and too short for that kind of self-flagellation.

    (I should perhaps also thank AE for the positive treatment I have thus far experienced from him concerning my own comments. I hope I have not be guilty of abusing his indulgence. I have been making an effort to be more mindful of the politeness and consideration toward other readers that can be exercised by making use of the “MORE” HTML tag in inordinately lengthy comments– esp. when veering off-topic.)

    Incidentally, is there anywhere we can read a little about AE, such as some info on his background or some of his personal views? Or perhaps register our appreciation by dropping a coin or two into his jar?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Firstly, I'm guessing A.E. doesn't want to divulge much of his personal background, though a snail-mail P.O. box for tips might be handy, if possible. I think his personal views come out some of the time.

    I'm very grateful to have my comments appear in real time, unlike with Steve Sailer (depending on his woke hours). Yes, I am also glad to get replies, and Mr. Audacious Epigone is the best on all the threads I've read here* as far as engaging in conversations with the commenters.

    Great job!


    .

    * I had to avoid the Commie writers for my blood-pressure, but they may be just as engaging - I'll never know - stupidity breeds more stupidity with those guys.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    That's very kind of you to say, thanks.

    Re: comment moderation, it's not something I like doing. But there are other places on the internet for people to cathartically blow off steam. A lot of the traffic to this blog comes through search engine returns. People who might otherwise go down the empirical rabbit hole will be turned off by seeing comments referring to people as monkeys or graphic fantasies about perpetrating violence against those perceived to have committed wrongs.

    Re: comments, I'm not indulging you--you're indulging me! That probably sounds corny but it's true. I love the quality of (most of) the comments here.

    Re: the bio, just drop an email I can contact you with and I'd be happy to oblige.

    Re: patronage, the sentiment is much appreciated. There are truth seekers out there scratching out a living doing this who need it more than I do, though. Readers are always welcome to become patrons (via patreon, I know, I know) of The Unz Review at the link off to the right just under the end of each post. Ron finances this whole operation on his own so anything that helps defer his costs a bit is warmly received.

  4. A past commenter on another thread observed that in his school district, once the minority demographic reached around 10%, school policy shifted to accommodate the 10%. If this is widespread, then high-percentage minority is not the worry threshold. Rather, the threshold for getting the kid out of the public school is quite small. The public-school risk factors, at 10%, are, I think: (1) Placating policies; (2) Bullying; (3) Reduced student performance by emulation of mediocre-but-cool students.

    • Replies: @Dissident

    The public-school risk factors, at 10%, are, I think: (1) Placating policies; (2) Bullying; (3) Reduced student performance by emulation of mediocre-but-cool students.
     
    Re: bullying, don't the risks go beyond it, even to those of lethal violence?

    Also, what about all the pernicious indoctrination at public schools-- no matter how White?

    JackOH:


    By the 1990s I started thinking the America I live in ain’t the one I thought I was living in, ain’t the one I signed up for.
     
    Anyone sufficiently familiar with the late NY radio personality Bob Grant will know exactly why that line reminded me of him.

    ...I find myself wondering whose country I'm living-in, because it isn't mine anymore!

    Sam Coulton:


    looking to shift the blame on to another group for their the consequences of their own poor judgment in life.
     
    The influx of immigration certainly can't be helping (and is certainly creating and adding-to other problems). One might wonder why you apparently feel a need to shift blame away from immigration.

    Wolverine:


    I do wonder if a more polished and articulate politician can combine the policies of Trump with the style of a Traditional Republican can win both groups. Jeff Sessions?
     
    Isn't Sessions a bit old at this point to run for office again?

    Also, while he's clearly been one of the best against Invite the World folly, doesn't his record on Invade the World leave much to be desired?

    Anonymous[217]:

    >"white supremacists"
    >"Aryan Brotherhood"

    You'd have more credibility if not for your first two sentences.

    @Oblivionrecurs:
    For the future, when posting that many images, using the "MORE" tag after the first few or so would be courteous.

  5. How bad is it if you include students at private schools?

    • Replies: @EddieK
    Well, if we very liberally assume all 10% of private/homeschooled kids are white...That would bring us up from 46% to 51%. Either way, it's not looking too good.
  6. @22pp22
    How bad is it if you include students at private schools?

    Well, if we very liberally assume all 10% of private/homeschooled kids are white…That would bring us up from 46% to 51%. Either way, it’s not looking too good.

    • Replies: @BlackFlag
    And these are 4th graders, so there is a 10 year lag. Probably offsets the 10% not in public schools.
  7. Given how Washington DC’s demographics have changed in the last 20 years (60 percent black, 28 percent white in 2000—47 percent black, 38 percent white in 2017), I’d guess the majority of white people in DC send their children to private schools.

    • Replies: @somebody_somewhere
    Most white people living in DC are probably young professionals that do not have kids.
    , @Roger CLIFTONVILLE Acton
    Or, like London in the UK, they'll spend their 20 & early 30s in the city, but when their kid is of school age, move out to a whiter area/bigger house rather than have their kid a minority in a black/brown class.

    White people will tolerate diversity for themselves, if the money is good. They arent so tolerant of it if that means sending their kid to a majority non-european school.
  8. AE, I’m gobsmacked.

    How do these public school demographics and majority-minority whozis whazzis affect my “domestic tranquility”, “general welfare”, “common good”, “more perfect union”, all that other 18th century stuff?

    Is it even possible to frame policy debates or score policy proposals in terms of something like whether X policy tends towards or away from the “common good”, etc.?

    Would an enterprising young lawyer consider drafting a satirical new constitution for the United States, complete with comic pseudo-scholarly apparatus, to reflect the actual America we live in? Y’know, something like “in order to form a more perfect global cheap labor racket”, etc. Maybe do a satirical Declaration of Independence 2.0 along the same lines?

    Time for coffee and corn flakes.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    That's very much in line with what I've said before, Jack. If you're not going to follow any of the principles of the Founders, just change the name already. At least that'd be honest.

    Uruguay is looking better and better.

    "I'm not gay, you're OK, let's all head to Uruguay!"
    , @Audacious Epigone
    The question of "common good" does become quite vexing when there is so much disagreement over what constitutes "good" and what even constitutes "common".
  9. Table 9 on this link gives figures for 1986, before amnesty.

    nces.ed.gov/pubs98/98018/

    Back then, white minorities only existed in Hawaii, Mississippi, New Mexico + DC, which were probably minority white even back in the 1920-1950s era, the pinnacle of white demographic dominance (if not political dominance, that was probably being eroded by 1910 ish)

    Perhaps the most striking change in Nevada schools, which went from nearly 80% white in 1986, to barely 30% today.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Do whites in Nevada not have kids? Or was the Hispanic invasion just too large?

    It seems like every white person now is old. Where did the young white people go? Just disappeared, from the looks of it.
  10. Twinkie’s last point is what keeps me up at night. We are doomed unless we can get Romney and Trump voters to both vote Republican, which is going to be difficult since they are of different classes and interests. I do wonder if a more polished and articulate politician can combine the policies of Trump with the style of a Traditional Republican can win both groups. Jeff Sessions?

    • Replies: @216
    Sessions is too old and too short for a Presidential campaign.

    A political solution is very difficult, mainly due to the unwillingness of the left to "quit while they are a ahead" and grant local autonomy on the contentious culture issues.

    The best outcome is the Peter Turchin solution, where the US under a leftist president loses a war to China/Russia; subsequently the economy collapses and the US breaks up under a joint occupation. And this is probably the mildest scenario I envsion, which could still mean six figures of casualties.

    A sizeable amount of Gen Y/Z white voters won't go for the GOP until it is "de-toxified", and the same is true of the moderate leaning Hispanics/Asians.

    The test will be if DSA starts running as a seperate party in the perma-blue states. A significant number of GOP pols and donors would actually appreciate that, as the GOP base would be checkmated and forced to vote for neoliberal Dems.

    That's probably the worst scenario, barring a DSA driven "climate population realignment". That means an eight figure casualty count.
  11. Have fun 😉

    At least you guys get racial data, unlike in Canada

    • Replies: @Roger CLIFTONVILLE Acton
    Canada does a racial census every 5 years. I'm sure that can be broken down into age group cohorts.

    Admittedly I have tried to look for that, but the Canadian census site is an arse to navigate, to say the least.
  12. @MattinLA
    We are fucked.

    Belarus or Bust

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  13. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Have fun ;)

    At least you guys get racial data, unlike in Canada

    Canada does a racial census every 5 years. I’m sure that can be broken down into age group cohorts.

    Admittedly I have tried to look for that, but the Canadian census site is an arse to navigate, to say the least.

  14. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:

    This graph is useful only to white supremacists whose sole goal is to live in a 100% white ethnocommunity.

    If you’re not a supporter of the Aryan Brotherhood or similar organizations, it’s useless.

    Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine tend to have ok or good schools. Relatively few are bad. Meanwhile, West Virginia has mostly bad schools despite having similar racial demographics as the other three states.

    Massachusetts and Connecticut only have a very slight white majority, yet their schools are slightly better than the ones in Vermont and New Hampshire. Rhode Island is also a “slight white majority” state and has schools that are ok, about as good as Maine.

    I don’t care if I live in a town with white schoolkids or not. I just want to live in a town with good schools. A school where kids obey their parents and teachers, study hard, have high expectations for themselves, and avoid juvenile delinquency (sex, drugs, violence, vandalism).

    • LOL: Thulean Friend
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Have you not been paying attention, #217? By definition, the good schools are the ones with the large majority of White and/or Oriental kids in them. That's how they GET good. What did you think, that it's the better buildings with new metal roofs, or the red clay soil vs silt or sandy that makes the difference?

    Take a look at Peak Stupidity on this topic (or you could scroll through a bunch of iSteve posts to find his hundreds of 'em on this subject). Here are a couple from PS:

    "On Schools, Race, and Billboards"

    "Good Schools, Race, and "Worrisome Signs""

    As the man said, "if you are not careful, you may learn something".
    , @Moses

    I don’t care if I live in a town with white schoolkids or not. I just want to live in a town with good schools.
     
    Your ZIP code is supermajority wealthy White, isn't it?
    , @Audacious Epigone
    This graph is useful only to white supremacists whose sole goal is to live in a 100% white ethnocommunity.

    If you’re not a supporter of the Aryan Brotherhood or similar organizations, it’s useless.

    That's pretty insulting. Neither of those characterizations remotely describes me and I find it interesting.

    Knowledge is good. It is better to understand the world as it is than pretend it is as you would like it to be.

    , @Twinkie

    A school where kids obey their parents and teachers, study hard, have high expectations for themselves, and avoid juvenile delinquency (sex, drugs, violence, vandalism).
     
    Have you considered moving to Seoul, Korea?*

    *Aka, Exam Hell.
  15. I agree with Twinkie, only more so, on his first comment. “Majority Minority” is one of the most fucked-up terms I’ve ever heard. (I know you don’t make all the maps, A.E., so this is not directed at you.) The legend could have said simple “minority white” or “whites in minority” for those states.

    Additionally, if you have a state with 70% black in some realm, then I’ve seen this written as “majority minority” too. That’s the most asinine thing. In math terms, that’s one of those dilemmas that could kill a computer, as with HAL in 2001. For people, cognitive dissonance does similar damage, but we can’t always see it from the outside.

    I think the point is to make blacks always the victims, as they are still that poor minority, even if, as with Detroit, they are 90% of the whole damn city.

    OK, carry on.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    I did make this map!

    I used "majority-minority" because that's more-or-less the standard nomenclature.
  16. @JackOH
    AE, I'm gobsmacked.

    How do these public school demographics and majority-minority whozis whazzis affect my "domestic tranquility", "general welfare", "common good", "more perfect union", all that other 18th century stuff?

    Is it even possible to frame policy debates or score policy proposals in terms of something like whether X policy tends towards or away from the "common good", etc.?

    Would an enterprising young lawyer consider drafting a satirical new constitution for the United States, complete with comic pseudo-scholarly apparatus, to reflect the actual America we live in? Y'know, something like "in order to form a more perfect global cheap labor racket", etc. Maybe do a satirical Declaration of Independence 2.0 along the same lines?

    Time for coffee and corn flakes.

    That’s very much in line with what I’ve said before, Jack. If you’re not going to follow any of the principles of the Founders, just change the name already. At least that’d be honest.

    Uruguay is looking better and better.

    “I’m not gay, you’re OK, let’s all head to Uruguay!”

    • Replies: @BlackFlag
    Uruguay is going shitlib. Police no longer crack down on criminals, their birthrate is in the toilet, and they're encouraging migration from fonts of human capital such as Venezuela.
    , @JackOH
    Got that right, Achmed! By the 1990s I started thinking the America I live in ain't the one I thought I was living in, ain't the one I signed up for.

    You're right about that "majority-minority" thing. WTF is that supposed to mean? Minority (White) rule in South Africa was "bad" when Blacks were a majority, Whites a minority. Majority (White) governance in the States is "bad", also, when Whites are still in the majority, non-Whites a minority. Almost sounds to me like some folks believe Blacks ought to be a master race, and when they're not, well, they ought to be. Duh, WTF?
  17. @Dissident
    NOTE: I had composed the following comment as a reply to this comment by our host, AE, in the "Removing Politics from Politics" thread. Realizing, however, that thread would be closing imminently, I decided to post here instead.

    On average the UR commentariat scores, I would imagine, very low on agreeableness.
     
    Let me take this opportunity to express my appreciation to the host of this blog, Audacious Epigone, for his policies and work in moderating comments. It's one of the main reasons why he is one of the few authors besides Steve Sailer whom I've sometimes commented under. I've found the heat-to-light ratio I've observed in, shall we say, less-curated sections of UR (or perhaps, in some cases at least, differently curated) tends to be too unfavorable to make subjecting oneself to them worth the effort. Life's just too taxing already and too short for that kind of self-flagellation.

    (I should perhaps also thank AE for the positive treatment I have thus far experienced from him concerning my own comments. I hope I have not be guilty of abusing his indulgence. I have been making an effort to be more mindful of the politeness and consideration toward other readers that can be exercised by making use of the "MORE" HTML tag in inordinately lengthy comments-- esp. when veering off-topic.)

    Incidentally, is there anywhere we can read a little about AE, such as some info on his background or some of his personal views? Or perhaps register our appreciation by dropping a coin or two into his jar?

    Firstly, I’m guessing A.E. doesn’t want to divulge much of his personal background, though a snail-mail P.O. box for tips might be handy, if possible. I think his personal views come out some of the time.

    I’m very grateful to have my comments appear in real time, unlike with Steve Sailer (depending on his woke hours). Yes, I am also glad to get replies, and Mr. Audacious Epigone is the best on all the threads I’ve read here* as far as engaging in conversations with the commenters.

    Great job!

    .

    * I had to avoid the Commie writers for my blood-pressure, but they may be just as engaging – I’ll never know – stupidity breeds more stupidity with those guys.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Lol re: the "commie writers", that is.

    The kind words are very much appreciated, thanks.
  18. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's very much in line with what I've said before, Jack. If you're not going to follow any of the principles of the Founders, just change the name already. At least that'd be honest.

    Uruguay is looking better and better.

    "I'm not gay, you're OK, let's all head to Uruguay!"

    Uruguay is going shitlib. Police no longer crack down on criminals, their birthrate is in the toilet, and they’re encouraging migration from fonts of human capital such as Venezuela.

    • Replies: @216
    Uruguay is voting today, so that remains to be seen. In the first round the left had its worst result since 1999.

    More importantly, the left lost their majority in the legislature. So even if the left wins today, they have to compromise with the right.
  19. @EddieK
    Well, if we very liberally assume all 10% of private/homeschooled kids are white...That would bring us up from 46% to 51%. Either way, it's not looking too good.

    And these are 4th graders, so there is a 10 year lag. Probably offsets the 10% not in public schools.

  20. anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    In the Chicago public school system, a large and expensive system, the white enrollment is only about 9% or so even though almost a third of Chicago is white. It’s the white areas that provide the bulk of financing for this through their property taxes. However it’s not recommended you send your children to a Chicago public school. The Chicago teachers union (CTU) is unbearably leftist.

  21. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's very much in line with what I've said before, Jack. If you're not going to follow any of the principles of the Founders, just change the name already. At least that'd be honest.

    Uruguay is looking better and better.

    "I'm not gay, you're OK, let's all head to Uruguay!"

    Got that right, Achmed! By the 1990s I started thinking the America I live in ain’t the one I thought I was living in, ain’t the one I signed up for.

    You’re right about that “majority-minority” thing. WTF is that supposed to mean? Minority (White) rule in South Africa was “bad” when Blacks were a majority, Whites a minority. Majority (White) governance in the States is “bad”, also, when Whites are still in the majority, non-Whites a minority. Almost sounds to me like some folks believe Blacks ought to be a master race, and when they’re not, well, they ought to be. Duh, WTF?

  22. I hope that one day, Western civilization will rediscover and squarely re-establish the moral principal that it is important to the health of society that children be raised within their own cultural milieu, and not within the milieu of ever-expanding set-asides for other people, such as alternative versions of history, for instance, when it is pretended that the Moorish conquest of Spain was good for Europeans, or that ancient Indian archaeology is worth abridging actual history.

  23. @MattinLA
    We are fucked.

    Or of you write for the NYTimes, “our greatest strength” is coming roughly from south to north. But real Progress, or ‘Real Americans’ replacing racist americans is happening in places like Washington State.

    Unless you are white. Then your obvious replacement being celebrated 24/7 in the media and politik is a right-wing conspiracy theory.

    Looks like I’m gonna have to keep my wool sweaters for my next move.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    What's happening isn't a result of white "replacement" but a simple matter of white women not reproducing as compared with Black and Hispanic women (who are also now lowering their own fertility).

    There will never be a cogent discussion about what is happening until the cucks and dykes that make up the alt-right acknowledge that what they are facing is not an influx of minorities, but a deflux of whire babies. If white women could up their total fertility rate to 3.5, the tables would turn overnight.


    The "problem" (if you want to call it that -- our society is actually vastly improved on all the metrics that white nationalists babble about, such as crime) is that white women aren't birthing anymore. That's what caused the effect you see in these graphs. The incoming Hispanics and the present population of Blacks was nowbere near capable of replacing white Americans, even if they all had the exact same fertility rates.

    The "replacement conspiracy" is peddled primarily by middleaged childfree white women like Ann Coulter and the cucks who love them, who are looking to shift the blame on to another group for their the consequences of their own poor judgment in life.

    , @Jay Fink
    According to zipdatamaps.com the Hispanic % of public schools in my zip code in Washington State is 77%!
  24. @BlackFlag
    Uruguay is going shitlib. Police no longer crack down on criminals, their birthrate is in the toilet, and they're encouraging migration from fonts of human capital such as Venezuela.

    Uruguay is voting today, so that remains to be seen. In the first round the left had its worst result since 1999.

    More importantly, the left lost their majority in the legislature. So even if the left wins today, they have to compromise with the right.

  25. @Screwtape
    Or of you write for the NYTimes, “our greatest strength” is coming roughly from south to north. But real Progress, or ‘Real Americans’ replacing racist americans is happening in places like Washington State.

    Unless you are white. Then your obvious replacement being celebrated 24/7 in the media and politik is a right-wing conspiracy theory.

    Looks like I’m gonna have to keep my wool sweaters for my next move.

    What’s happening isn’t a result of white “replacement” but a simple matter of white women not reproducing as compared with Black and Hispanic women (who are also now lowering their own fertility).

    There will never be a cogent discussion about what is happening until the cucks and dykes that make up the alt-right acknowledge that what they are facing is not an influx of minorities, but a deflux of whire babies. If white women could up their total fertility rate to 3.5, the tables would turn overnight.

    The “problem” (if you want to call it that — our society is actually vastly improved on all the metrics that white nationalists babble about, such as crime) is that white women aren’t birthing anymore. That’s what caused the effect you see in these graphs. The incoming Hispanics and the present population of Blacks was nowbere near capable of replacing white Americans, even if they all had the exact same fertility rates.

    The “replacement conspiracy” is peddled primarily by middleaged childfree white women like Ann Coulter and the cucks who love them, who are looking to shift the blame on to another group for their the consequences of their own poor judgment in life.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    I don't totally disagree with your points.

    However, I think there are additional, economic factors driving birthrates among the various groups.

    People that are struggling, living paycheck-to-paycheck are not going to be in a hurry to have lots of children.
    , @Feryl

    The “problem” (if you want to call it that — our society is actually vastly improved on all the metrics that white nationalists babble about, such as crime)
     
    In Steven Pinker's latest book, he says that the 1953-1963 birth cohort was largely responsible for the massive wave of mischief that happened in the late 1960's-early 1990's. This is the generation which kicked off the obesity epidemic, continues to drink heavily, is prone to incarceration, prone to homelessness, and was heavily responsible for the surge of nihilistic youth culture in the 1970's and very early 80's. The 1964-1972 cohort was behind the slacker/grunge culture of the 90's (of the "big four" grunge bands, only three founding members of these bands were born before 1964), however, that was relatively toothless and meek compared to the unhinged madness of punk rock (and the peak of punk music from circa 1979-1982 coincided with late 50's and early 60's births being in high school and college). But admittedly, the 1964-1972 cohort is only somewhat more pro-social than the late Boomers.

    It can't be emphasized enough just how atrocious the youth culture of the 1970's was. It's inflicted damage on the youngsters of that era that will never be repaired.

    Pinker says that the later Boomers were far more destructive to the over all social fabric than any of the other generations to come along in the 20th and 21st century. But keep in mind that it's late Boomers who consistently register as a very pessimistic cohort. So your jab at "white nationalists" is better aimed at late Boomers who were socialized to destroy things, and as such, have no hope for the present or future.
    , @Screwtape
    Have you always hated white people or did something happen to you when you were young? Your Scout leader get a little handsy?
  26. @Screwtape
    Or of you write for the NYTimes, “our greatest strength” is coming roughly from south to north. But real Progress, or ‘Real Americans’ replacing racist americans is happening in places like Washington State.

    Unless you are white. Then your obvious replacement being celebrated 24/7 in the media and politik is a right-wing conspiracy theory.

    Looks like I’m gonna have to keep my wool sweaters for my next move.

    According to zipdatamaps.com the Hispanic % of public schools in my zip code in Washington State is 77%!

    • Replies: @216
    If in rural WA, much of this migration was agriculture related, along with rising Kalifornia housing costs.

    When agriculture is fully automated, which is coming by 2030; this population has a strong change of following the pattern of rural flight observed since the 19th century.
  27. @Sam Coulton
    What's happening isn't a result of white "replacement" but a simple matter of white women not reproducing as compared with Black and Hispanic women (who are also now lowering their own fertility).

    There will never be a cogent discussion about what is happening until the cucks and dykes that make up the alt-right acknowledge that what they are facing is not an influx of minorities, but a deflux of whire babies. If white women could up their total fertility rate to 3.5, the tables would turn overnight.


    The "problem" (if you want to call it that -- our society is actually vastly improved on all the metrics that white nationalists babble about, such as crime) is that white women aren't birthing anymore. That's what caused the effect you see in these graphs. The incoming Hispanics and the present population of Blacks was nowbere near capable of replacing white Americans, even if they all had the exact same fertility rates.

    The "replacement conspiracy" is peddled primarily by middleaged childfree white women like Ann Coulter and the cucks who love them, who are looking to shift the blame on to another group for their the consequences of their own poor judgment in life.

    I don’t totally disagree with your points.

    However, I think there are additional, economic factors driving birthrates among the various groups.

    People that are struggling, living paycheck-to-paycheck are not going to be in a hurry to have lots of children.

    • Replies: @216
    Many countries have lower fertility rates in 2018 than they did in recession-era 2010.

    White fertility actually ticked up in the 1990s.

    The decline isn't due to economic stagnation, or even to growing inequality. A lot of the decline has been in teen pregnancies, which are dropping due to atomization and improved birth control. High student debt could explain low US fertility, but can't explain low fertility in tuition-free DE. Fertility rates among women in their 40s have actually ticked up in rich countries.

    Family breakdown is also more significant, extended families are weak in the west; along with a decline in religious observance. Homosexuality has also been promoted and has dramatically increased in younger cohorts.

    The biggest evidence factor, IMO, Israel has lower living standards than most of the developed world, along with mandatory 2-year conscription. But Jewish fertility is higher in 2018 than it was in 2010, and 2000 for that matter.
  28. @The Wild Geese Howard
    I don't totally disagree with your points.

    However, I think there are additional, economic factors driving birthrates among the various groups.

    People that are struggling, living paycheck-to-paycheck are not going to be in a hurry to have lots of children.

    Many countries have lower fertility rates in 2018 than they did in recession-era 2010.

    White fertility actually ticked up in the 1990s.

    The decline isn’t due to economic stagnation, or even to growing inequality. A lot of the decline has been in teen pregnancies, which are dropping due to atomization and improved birth control. High student debt could explain low US fertility, but can’t explain low fertility in tuition-free DE. Fertility rates among women in their 40s have actually ticked up in rich countries.

    Family breakdown is also more significant, extended families are weak in the west; along with a decline in religious observance. Homosexuality has also been promoted and has dramatically increased in younger cohorts.

    The biggest evidence factor, IMO, Israel has lower living standards than most of the developed world, along with mandatory 2-year conscription. But Jewish fertility is higher in 2018 than it was in 2010, and 2000 for that matter.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    Just as libertarian types need to get used to big government due to changes in technology and human culture since the 1920's, the "family values" crowd has to come to terms with the fact that the human population worldwide is so ginormous that there is increasingly little incentive to reproduce. Children are no longer frequently struck down in childbirth or infancy, as they often were prior to the mid-20th century. Children since the mid-20 th century have seldom been used for labor , at least not in the first world, so it's not as if people need kids in order to have help on the farm (fewer and fewer Americans have been involved in agriculture since the mid-20th century). There just isn't much reason to have 3-5 kids anymore. Back in the New Deal era, the US experienced a massive baby boom because we had the resources to build massive suburbs around all of our cities. We suddenly had massive numbers of new houses, roads, parks, schools etc. all of which needed to be populated with new births since few people were born in the 1920's and 30's, and the GI and Silent Generation, who had escaped the Ellis Island days, 2 world wars, and the great depression, were eager to launch into a new era.

    Asking Millennials and Gen Z to commence another baby boom is laughable. The ecological, cultural, political, and economic realities of the 21st century are way different than what they were in the 1940's-1960's. Andrew Yang, not Jerry Falwell, is the future. Insuring a peaceful and dignified life for the present and future inhabitants of a world threatened by over-population and resource depletion (and perhaps, the coming clash of at least 3 major powers, the US aka the West by proxy, China, and Russia) is what's important. Not having 5 kids and awaiting the rapture.

    White fertility actually ticked up in the 1990s.
     
    Late Boomers (and often their early Gen X wives) were high on the hog of a bogus economic "boom" contrived by the beginning of neo-liberalism, and further egged on by the collapse of communism which damaged the intellectual faculties of many people. Remember, in the 1960's thru the mid-1980's fear of urban and eventually suburban decay, nuclear warfare, and environmental depletion convinced many people to have fewer children, or no children at all. But circa 1988-2000 is when late Boomer men sure convinced a lot of Boomer and early X-er women to have kids, which coincided with the death of the Cold War, gentrification ("Disneyfication" of cities once thought to be beyond hope), and late Boomer hostility toward environmentalism (it's the early Boomer cohort who were the big hippies, and often swore to never have kids back in the 60's and 70's).
  29. If the great replacement has the effect of permanetly removing the Cucks from the scene maybe it will have been worth it.

    The Cucks are the problem. They have always been the problem. They will always be the problem. Just say no to Cucks.

    • Replies: @216
    It's difficult to understand bourgeois norms if you haven't lived inside bourgeois culture.

    In our upper-middle class, conformity is enforced by loss of social status; by shunning and by potential loss of employment (which usually results in divorce).

    The "How dare you" response is considerably strong, and liberals are empirically observed to be more eager to block on social media (and likewise IRL).

    Cuckoldry evolves as a response to these norms, as a way of remaining acceptably conservative in an urbane environment.

    The question is open as to whehter it is our manners that get us condemned, or whehter the white left-liberals are fully drunk on maximum egalitarianism.

    ---

    If Charlie Kirk resumes his silly campus tour in the spring, our people need to be asking him:

    "Charlie, studies have shown that conservatives are vastly underrepresented in academia, yet the conservative movement is ideologically opposed to quotas. Some conservatives also disparage intellectualism and pursuing graduate degrees. Conservative ideas aren't respected because there are only a few token right-wing professors. Should we reconsider our objections to affirmative action in order to obtain ideological diversity in the faculty lounge?"
  30. @Jay Fink
    According to zipdatamaps.com the Hispanic % of public schools in my zip code in Washington State is 77%!

    If in rural WA, much of this migration was agriculture related, along with rising Kalifornia housing costs.

    When agriculture is fully automated, which is coming by 2030; this population has a strong change of following the pattern of rural flight observed since the 19th century.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
    I am in Yakima which is a huge agricultural area but is urban not rural. A lot of the Hispanics here did come from California..It seems more from Cal than directly from Mexico. I noticed most 2nd gen Mexicans are not interested in working in the fields and they usually find other jobs in the city. Most of my co-workers are English dominant Hispanics who grew up in the U.S.
  31. @Daniel H
    If the great replacement has the effect of permanetly removing the Cucks from the scene maybe it will have been worth it.

    The Cucks are the problem. They have always been the problem. They will always be the problem. Just say no to Cucks.

    It’s difficult to understand bourgeois norms if you haven’t lived inside bourgeois culture.

    In our upper-middle class, conformity is enforced by loss of social status; by shunning and by potential loss of employment (which usually results in divorce).

    The “How dare you” response is considerably strong, and liberals are empirically observed to be more eager to block on social media (and likewise IRL).

    Cuckoldry evolves as a response to these norms, as a way of remaining acceptably conservative in an urbane environment.

    The question is open as to whehter it is our manners that get us condemned, or whehter the white left-liberals are fully drunk on maximum egalitarianism.

    If Charlie Kirk resumes his silly campus tour in the spring, our people need to be asking him:

    “Charlie, studies have shown that conservatives are vastly underrepresented in academia, yet the conservative movement is ideologically opposed to quotas. Some conservatives also disparage intellectualism and pursuing graduate degrees. Conservative ideas aren’t respected because there are only a few token right-wing professors. Should we reconsider our objections to affirmative action in order to obtain ideological diversity in the faculty lounge?”

  32. @MattinLA
    We are fucked.

    This is how fucked we are

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    Though my eyes began to water after the fifth chart I find myself in agreement with you. We are "fucked". The only path forward for whitey, unless you want your gonads snipped like Corvinus, is dissolution. A true republic based on ethnicity and political philosophy.
    , @216
    The FL exit poll is odd.

    Black men loved Gillum, but apparently black women defied decades of observed patterns and were ten points more likely to back DeSantis.

    The same day in GA, pseudo-lesbian Abrams did ten points worse with black men than with women.

    Latino men were nearly as Republican as white women.
    , @Daniel H
    The Cucks are fucked, not you or I. Don't conflate your interests/fate with that of the Cucks. Don't lament the death of the Cucks, celebrate it. They are not on our side. There can be no progress in this ountry until the Cucks are wiped out.
  33. Samuel Huntington is laughing after looking at this chart from heavens.

  34. @Twinkie
    "Majority-minority" is a rather unintelligent term. While I acknowledge that there is some political and sociological salience to measuring the percentages of whites, this term agglomerates people - American blacks, various different kinds of Hispanics, and vastly different Asians - into one "blob" of "minority."

    At minimum, I think it will be more useful to look at white plurality across the states, rather than white vs. "majority-minority" numbers.

    it is hard not to notice that in all of the once reliably red states now in the process of becoming blue–Texas, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina–the next generation is majority non-white. It’s almost as though Democrats cannot lose in states where most of the population is not white.
     
    It's important, though, not to overstate the case and feed into the left's demographical triumphalism. For example, control of the Virginia state legislature recently flipped to the Democrats (for the first time in 26 years, the latter will control both the governorship and the legislature in Virginia), and the Washington Post couldn't stop crowing about how a "new majority" of nonwhites is overturning the GOP in the state.

    The problem is, a lot of those "nonwhites" are unnaturalized immigrants and didnt (couldn't) vote. What happened was a combination of:

    1) Demographic changes - not so much white vs. non-white in nature, but a massive influx of northerners following the money/jobs and a sizable outflow of native Virginians to farther South (mostly North Carolina and Tennesee);

    2) The judiciary's interference - but for the left-appointed judges mandating jerrymandering of several key districts for supposed "previous racial bias," the GOP would have kept control of the lower house;

    3) The GOP's self-immolation - Republicans failed to field candidates in a quarter of the House of Delegates races and simply gave up the fight in those areas (which allowed the Democrats to concentrate resources into the swing districts - and they won nearly all of them). The Republican Party of Virginia has been dogged in the past decade or so by utter incompetence and spent all its energey infighting and failed to retain the party's influence, let alone expand its reach (e.g. it has failed to train and deploy field staff - some observers noted in the swing districts that they saw Democrat canvassers outnumber Republican ones 5-to-1); and

    4) Socio-economic swifts in party ID - the Washington Post and a whole lot of people fiaxate on Northern Virginia, but this election was, in reality, lost around the suburbs of Richmond. DC suburbs have always been vote-cows for the Democrats - that hasn't changed much. But, this wasn't a state-wide election, but a state senate and house election, meaning what happened in Northern Virginia had little to do with what happened in the rest of the state. In the past, the professional/upper middle class Richmond suburbs were strongly Republican and served as a backstop for the GOP losses around the DC suburbs. In this election the GOP was absolutely routed in those suburbs peopled by "pocketbook Republicans." This is in great part a result of the realignment of the GOP becoming more Trumpist. Rural and downscale (white) areas of the state have become much more strongly Republican, but suburban and professional class whites (esp. women) have become very strongly anti-Trump, and this trend is accelerating beyond the large metropolitan areas to the belts around mid-sized cities.

    I don’t follow Virginia politics so this is why I ask: How many ‘former’ CIA employees are representing VA in DC? If the answer is more than one maybe I should follow Virginia politics. I think ‘former’ DCI Brennan is following the Soros model by inserting operatives into local and federal political slots. It’s as if the State Department, CIA, and DOJ aren’t enough for these power-crazed beasts.

  35. @Oblivionrecurs
    This is how fucked we are


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    Though my eyes began to water after the fifth chart I find myself in agreement with you. We are “fucked”. The only path forward for whitey, unless you want your gonads snipped like Corvinus, is dissolution. A true republic based on ethnicity and political philosophy.

    • Replies: @EddieK
    I agree with you, but we shouldn't give up on trying to influence elections. We can't give one more ounce of political power away. All I know is I'm leaving Florida and having kids in the midwest when the time comes.
  36. @216
    If in rural WA, much of this migration was agriculture related, along with rising Kalifornia housing costs.

    When agriculture is fully automated, which is coming by 2030; this population has a strong change of following the pattern of rural flight observed since the 19th century.

    I am in Yakima which is a huge agricultural area but is urban not rural. A lot of the Hispanics here did come from California..It seems more from Cal than directly from Mexico. I noticed most 2nd gen Mexicans are not interested in working in the fields and they usually find other jobs in the city. Most of my co-workers are English dominant Hispanics who grew up in the U.S.

  37. @SunBakedSuburb
    Though my eyes began to water after the fifth chart I find myself in agreement with you. We are "fucked". The only path forward for whitey, unless you want your gonads snipped like Corvinus, is dissolution. A true republic based on ethnicity and political philosophy.

    I agree with you, but we shouldn’t give up on trying to influence elections. We can’t give one more ounce of political power away. All I know is I’m leaving Florida and having kids in the midwest when the time comes.

    • Replies: @Oblivionrecurs
    We do have a Senate and judicial advantage for the foreseeable future.

    I'm planning the same thing in Florida, thinking of moving to anecdotal homes in Iowa or Michigan. A big enough migration of whites should really change the Midwest to our favor while rising EC points. So it would be like the California GOP exodus of the 1990s
  38. fertility rate for both black and hispanics is below replacement rate , asian and native american women even have lower fertility than whites

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Increasingly nobody in the developed world, save for the (purpose-driven) religious, wants to leave a living legacy. It's one of the reasons I find hatred for other groups, especially those without power, off-putting.

    1) Repatriate non-citizens
    2) Enact a moratorium on immigration so we can arrest the trend of increasing social discord
    3) Get native fertility back to at least replacement

    Do these things, America survives. They can be done fairly and without unnecessary rancor. But the hour is getting late.

  39. @SafeNow
    A past commenter on another thread observed that in his school district, once the minority demographic reached around 10%, school policy shifted to accommodate the 10%. If this is widespread, then high-percentage minority is not the worry threshold. Rather, the threshold for getting the kid out of the public school is quite small. The public-school risk factors, at 10%, are, I think: (1) Placating policies; (2) Bullying; (3) Reduced student performance by emulation of mediocre-but-cool students.

    The public-school risk factors, at 10%, are, I think: (1) Placating policies; (2) Bullying; (3) Reduced student performance by emulation of mediocre-but-cool students.

    Re: bullying, don’t the risks go beyond it, even to those of lethal violence?

    Also, what about all the pernicious indoctrination at public schools– no matter how White?

    JackOH:

    By the 1990s I started thinking the America I live in ain’t the one I thought I was living in, ain’t the one I signed up for.

    Anyone sufficiently familiar with the late NY radio personality Bob Grant will know exactly why that line reminded me of him.

    …I find myself wondering whose country I’m living-in, because it isn’t mine anymore!

    Sam Coulton:

    looking to shift the blame on to another group for their the consequences of their own poor judgment in life.

    The influx of immigration certainly can’t be helping (and is certainly creating and adding-to other problems). One might wonder why you apparently feel a need to shift blame away from immigration.

    Wolverine:

    I do wonder if a more polished and articulate politician can combine the policies of Trump with the style of a Traditional Republican can win both groups. Jeff Sessions?

    Isn’t Sessions a bit old at this point to run for office again?

    Also, while he’s clearly been one of the best against Invite the World folly, doesn’t his record on Invade the World leave much to be desired?

    Anonymous[217]:

    >”white supremacists”
    >”Aryan Brotherhood”

    You’d have more credibility if not for your first two sentences.

    :
    For the future, when posting that many images, using the “MORE” tag after the first few or so would be courteous.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Agree re: the graphics dump. Lots of interesting information in there, and I know you're intention isn't to spam, but that is a lot to leave 'above the fold'.
  40. The influx of immigration certainly can’t be helping (and is certainly creating and adding-to other problems). One might wonder why you apparently feel a need to shift blame away from immigration.

    Because there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration. The wall will never be built, the American political system has too many hurdles to jump over in the limited time frame tbat is available to stop immigration. Republican politicians have proven themselves utterly worthless for decades on this issue.

    Focusing on immigration, particularly from the perspectice of a voter, is simply a distraction.

    On the other hand, it is much more feasible, expedient, and realistic to simply increase the number of white women birthing children. It requires no supreme court decision. Low birthrate is, unlike immigration enforcement, something all world governments have admitted is one of the most endangering threats of our time, and perhaps of all time.

    When the government has correctly identified a problem stemming from the incompetence and inaction of its citizens, a revolution is almost inevitable in free societies, enabled by the cybernetic feedback loop connecting the citizenry and the government, which compels young men to action, while at the same time laxing enforcement of the law. Mass immigration is, in fact, a consequence of low birthrates, as are reduced prison sentences and shrinking police forces.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational

    Because there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration.
     
    ORLY?  We already DID it with Trump.  DAPA is dead.  DACA is on the chopping block.  New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers.  Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.

    On the other hand, it is much more feasible, expedient, and realistic to simply increase the number of white women birthing children.
     
    You can't ask people to have more children if they are immiserated and barely able to afford their expenses as they are.  The downward pressure on wages and escalation of living costs CAUSED by immigration is a substantial part of this, as is the white-hostile environment of public schools.

    Getting rid of immigration, and every last immigrant who has become a public charge or criminal, would be an IMMENSE benefit to American founding-stock fertility.
    , @Dissident

    Mass immigration is, in fact, a consequence of low birthrates
     
    I don't know how you figure that. Sounds like the "doing the jobs that American won't do" argument, which has been refuted. I don't have citations handy but the website of the Center for Immigration Studies would probably be a good place to start. I know that John Derbyshire has addressed in some detail the claim of needing high-skilled immigrants and "guest worker" and H-1B visas, etc. Basically, what it all boils down to is that we have the people but corporations want immigrants because they work for less pay.

    there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration.
     
    I would not go that far but I am under no illusions either. The situation is not too encouraging but I don't think giving-up completely on the political front is prudent. It seems to me that there are still some efforts worth pursuing.

    I wish to thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment in detail and in a civil tone.
    -------------------

    I also wish to belatedly thank Achmed E. Newman and our host, Audacious Epigone for their replies to me.

    Let me take this opportunity to also note that I always appreciate civil replies that are made in good faith to my comments. I feel a sense of obligation to acknowledge all such replies but, for various reasons, do not always manage to do so. To anyone I may have missed, please accept my apologies.

    Finally before I conclude this post, I just want to express my appreciation to AE for the post you made featuring, as "comment of the week", an excerpt from one of the comments on the Gay lobby I had posted. I have seen much in that thread that I would like to respond to and will try to yet manage at least some of it but alas for the inexorable tyranny of the relentless march of time. The time it requires for me to effectively convert my thoughts into coherent, reasonably concise writing of a suitable nature for posting here tends to be excessive and unfortunately far exceeds the limits of my available time. Admittedly, I have been spreading myself too thin lately, biting off more than I chew, as it were.

  41. @Wolverine
    Twinkie’s last point is what keeps me up at night. We are doomed unless we can get Romney and Trump voters to both vote Republican, which is going to be difficult since they are of different classes and interests. I do wonder if a more polished and articulate politician can combine the policies of Trump with the style of a Traditional Republican can win both groups. Jeff Sessions?

    Sessions is too old and too short for a Presidential campaign.

    A political solution is very difficult, mainly due to the unwillingness of the left to “quit while they are a ahead” and grant local autonomy on the contentious culture issues.

    The best outcome is the Peter Turchin solution, where the US under a leftist president loses a war to China/Russia; subsequently the economy collapses and the US breaks up under a joint occupation. And this is probably the mildest scenario I envsion, which could still mean six figures of casualties.

    A sizeable amount of Gen Y/Z white voters won’t go for the GOP until it is “de-toxified”, and the same is true of the moderate leaning Hispanics/Asians.

    The test will be if DSA starts running as a seperate party in the perma-blue states. A significant number of GOP pols and donors would actually appreciate that, as the GOP base would be checkmated and forced to vote for neoliberal Dems.

    That’s probably the worst scenario, barring a DSA driven “climate population realignment”. That means an eight figure casualty count.

    • Replies: @Feryl

    The best outcome is the Peter Turchin solution, where the US under a leftist president loses a war to China/Russia; subsequently the economy collapses and the US breaks up under a joint occupation. And this is probably the mildest scenario I envsion, which could still mean six figures of casualties.
     
    The Soviet elders of the late 1980's and 1990's saw the writing on the wall; moreover, they believed that Reagan et al were relatively benevolent, and wanted a "new global order" revolving around peace and "free trade".

    However, in the 90's and subsequent decades US political and foreign policy norms have swiftly degenerated, exposing how stupid and treacherous this country became when it went all of one decade without a serious foe. And the equity build up from America's founding through the 1980's has all been pissed away at this point, all because Americans became extremely greedy and arrogant in the wake of the Soviet Union dissolving.

    I think that letting the US gracefully exit it's post-1946 claim to world hegemony will only be possible with leaders born since the mid-1970's. After all, the generations who grew up before 1991 still think America is a (relatively) good guy. I'm afraid that older generations of Americans are delusional about America's moral legitimacy. And I'm nervous that the leaders of those generations would rather plunge the US into a desperate conflict with various foes than acknowledge that America will not, and perhaps can not, be great again.
  42. @Oblivionrecurs
    This is how fucked we are


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    The FL exit poll is odd.

    Black men loved Gillum, but apparently black women defied decades of observed patterns and were ten points more likely to back DeSantis.

    The same day in GA, pseudo-lesbian Abrams did ten points worse with black men than with women.

    Latino men were nearly as Republican as white women.

  43. @EddieK
    I agree with you, but we shouldn't give up on trying to influence elections. We can't give one more ounce of political power away. All I know is I'm leaving Florida and having kids in the midwest when the time comes.

    We do have a Senate and judicial advantage for the foreseeable future.

    I’m planning the same thing in Florida, thinking of moving to anecdotal homes in Iowa or Michigan. A big enough migration of whites should really change the Midwest to our favor while rising EC points. So it would be like the California GOP exodus of the 1990s

    • Agree: EddieK
  44. @Anonymous
    This graph is useful only to white supremacists whose sole goal is to live in a 100% white ethnocommunity.

    If you're not a supporter of the Aryan Brotherhood or similar organizations, it's useless.

    Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine tend to have ok or good schools. Relatively few are bad. Meanwhile, West Virginia has mostly bad schools despite having similar racial demographics as the other three states.

    Massachusetts and Connecticut only have a very slight white majority, yet their schools are slightly better than the ones in Vermont and New Hampshire. Rhode Island is also a "slight white majority" state and has schools that are ok, about as good as Maine.

    I don't care if I live in a town with white schoolkids or not. I just want to live in a town with good schools. A school where kids obey their parents and teachers, study hard, have high expectations for themselves, and avoid juvenile delinquency (sex, drugs, violence, vandalism).

    Have you not been paying attention, #217? By definition, the good schools are the ones with the large majority of White and/or Oriental kids in them. That’s how they GET good. What did you think, that it’s the better buildings with new metal roofs, or the red clay soil vs silt or sandy that makes the difference?

    Take a look at Peak Stupidity on this topic (or you could scroll through a bunch of iSteve posts to find his hundreds of ’em on this subject). Here are a couple from PS:

    “On Schools, Race, and Billboards”

    “Good Schools, Race, and “Worrisome Signs””

    As the man said, “if you are not careful, you may learn something”.

  45. Here is the Georgia data i have

    Catalist does have us improving among non-white men in the state:

    More than 352k people have registered to vote in Georgia this year, sending voting rolls to record high. 47% of new registrants are minorities, 45% under 30. 455,323 black people have registered to vote in Georgia since Donald Trump was elected president. Trump carried the state by 211,141 votes

    85% of registered voter Georgians say they’re certain to vote. Including 71% of 18-34 and 94% of 65+

    86% of whites, 83% of blacks, 77% of Latinos

    90% of evangelical protestants (Kemp win by winning South Georgia White Evangelicals at 89%)

    91% of Trump and Clinton voters

    90% of college 4 year

    87% of southern Georgia (big for Trump)

  46. @Sam Coulton
    What's happening isn't a result of white "replacement" but a simple matter of white women not reproducing as compared with Black and Hispanic women (who are also now lowering their own fertility).

    There will never be a cogent discussion about what is happening until the cucks and dykes that make up the alt-right acknowledge that what they are facing is not an influx of minorities, but a deflux of whire babies. If white women could up their total fertility rate to 3.5, the tables would turn overnight.


    The "problem" (if you want to call it that -- our society is actually vastly improved on all the metrics that white nationalists babble about, such as crime) is that white women aren't birthing anymore. That's what caused the effect you see in these graphs. The incoming Hispanics and the present population of Blacks was nowbere near capable of replacing white Americans, even if they all had the exact same fertility rates.

    The "replacement conspiracy" is peddled primarily by middleaged childfree white women like Ann Coulter and the cucks who love them, who are looking to shift the blame on to another group for their the consequences of their own poor judgment in life.

    The “problem” (if you want to call it that — our society is actually vastly improved on all the metrics that white nationalists babble about, such as crime)

    In Steven Pinker’s latest book, he says that the 1953-1963 birth cohort was largely responsible for the massive wave of mischief that happened in the late 1960’s-early 1990’s. This is the generation which kicked off the obesity epidemic, continues to drink heavily, is prone to incarceration, prone to homelessness, and was heavily responsible for the surge of nihilistic youth culture in the 1970’s and very early 80’s. The 1964-1972 cohort was behind the slacker/grunge culture of the 90’s (of the “big four” grunge bands, only three founding members of these bands were born before 1964), however, that was relatively toothless and meek compared to the unhinged madness of punk rock (and the peak of punk music from circa 1979-1982 coincided with late 50’s and early 60’s births being in high school and college). But admittedly, the 1964-1972 cohort is only somewhat more pro-social than the late Boomers.

    It can’t be emphasized enough just how atrocious the youth culture of the 1970’s was. It’s inflicted damage on the youngsters of that era that will never be repaired.

    Pinker says that the later Boomers were far more destructive to the over all social fabric than any of the other generations to come along in the 20th and 21st century. But keep in mind that it’s late Boomers who consistently register as a very pessimistic cohort. So your jab at “white nationalists” is better aimed at late Boomers who were socialized to destroy things, and as such, have no hope for the present or future.

    • Replies: @Oblivionrecurs
    The police are solving a lower share of murder cases, basically exclusively accounted for by cases with black victims.

    I'm trying to think of the biggest examples that would have the most effect on crime stats. Columbus, OH (pop. 892,000), which averages nearly 100 murders a year, did not report anything to the FBI in 2012 or 2013.
  47. @216
    Many countries have lower fertility rates in 2018 than they did in recession-era 2010.

    White fertility actually ticked up in the 1990s.

    The decline isn't due to economic stagnation, or even to growing inequality. A lot of the decline has been in teen pregnancies, which are dropping due to atomization and improved birth control. High student debt could explain low US fertility, but can't explain low fertility in tuition-free DE. Fertility rates among women in their 40s have actually ticked up in rich countries.

    Family breakdown is also more significant, extended families are weak in the west; along with a decline in religious observance. Homosexuality has also been promoted and has dramatically increased in younger cohorts.

    The biggest evidence factor, IMO, Israel has lower living standards than most of the developed world, along with mandatory 2-year conscription. But Jewish fertility is higher in 2018 than it was in 2010, and 2000 for that matter.

    Just as libertarian types need to get used to big government due to changes in technology and human culture since the 1920’s, the “family values” crowd has to come to terms with the fact that the human population worldwide is so ginormous that there is increasingly little incentive to reproduce. Children are no longer frequently struck down in childbirth or infancy, as they often were prior to the mid-20th century. Children since the mid-20 th century have seldom been used for labor , at least not in the first world, so it’s not as if people need kids in order to have help on the farm (fewer and fewer Americans have been involved in agriculture since the mid-20th century). There just isn’t much reason to have 3-5 kids anymore. Back in the New Deal era, the US experienced a massive baby boom because we had the resources to build massive suburbs around all of our cities. We suddenly had massive numbers of new houses, roads, parks, schools etc. all of which needed to be populated with new births since few people were born in the 1920’s and 30’s, and the GI and Silent Generation, who had escaped the Ellis Island days, 2 world wars, and the great depression, were eager to launch into a new era.

    Asking Millennials and Gen Z to commence another baby boom is laughable. The ecological, cultural, political, and economic realities of the 21st century are way different than what they were in the 1940’s-1960’s. Andrew Yang, not Jerry Falwell, is the future. Insuring a peaceful and dignified life for the present and future inhabitants of a world threatened by over-population and resource depletion (and perhaps, the coming clash of at least 3 major powers, the US aka the West by proxy, China, and Russia) is what’s important. Not having 5 kids and awaiting the rapture.

    White fertility actually ticked up in the 1990s.

    Late Boomers (and often their early Gen X wives) were high on the hog of a bogus economic “boom” contrived by the beginning of neo-liberalism, and further egged on by the collapse of communism which damaged the intellectual faculties of many people. Remember, in the 1960’s thru the mid-1980’s fear of urban and eventually suburban decay, nuclear warfare, and environmental depletion convinced many people to have fewer children, or no children at all. But circa 1988-2000 is when late Boomer men sure convinced a lot of Boomer and early X-er women to have kids, which coincided with the death of the Cold War, gentrification (“Disneyfication” of cities once thought to be beyond hope), and late Boomer hostility toward environmentalism (it’s the early Boomer cohort who were the big hippies, and often swore to never have kids back in the 60’s and 70’s).

    • Replies: @216

    gentrification
     
    Didn't fully emerge as a trend until the 2000s. Even while crime was declining during the 1990s, the cities were still considerably more violent than they are today. What made gentrification possible was increased credentialism, and the large scale exit of manufacturing from loft spaces that subsequently found new uses. The tech industry accelerated this trend in the 2010s.

    It's hard to think of a city where the "white working class vote" is still a major influence in municipal politics. Both Portlands?

    ---

    Addendum to earlier post

    Israeli conscription is not 2 years, it is actually 3 years for many (male) conscripts. It is two years for women. Reserve duty appears considerably truncated from what IDF Boomers and GenX did.

    Contrast with ROK, where men serve two years and women aren't drafted. Taiwan conscripts men for 1 year. Singapore conscripts for 2 years.

    The latter three have absymal fertility rates (1), contrasted with similarly rich Japan which doesn't have a draft yet has higher fertility (1.5).

    If people here have a background in any of these four countries, has there been discussion on female conscription? Would this change the marriage marketplace? Or is Zionism sui generis? Do Arabs lose out or gain from being exempted, and thus able to work or attend university?

    Certain OldLeft like the draft as a means of "social equity", and remaining Boomercon 'Nam vets also might see it as a way to "instill patriotism". FWIW, despite the worship of Israel in Con Inc, I've never heard anyone suggest that copying the IDF model of conscription and routine reserve call up would "improve social cohesion". Too collectivist, I guess.
  48. @Sam Coulton

    The influx of immigration certainly can’t be helping (and is certainly creating and adding-to other problems). One might wonder why you apparently feel a need to shift blame away from immigration.
     
    Because there's nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration. The wall will never be built, the American political system has too many hurdles to jump over in the limited time frame tbat is available to stop immigration. Republican politicians have proven themselves utterly worthless for decades on this issue.

    Focusing on immigration, particularly from the perspectice of a voter, is simply a distraction.

    On the other hand, it is much more feasible, expedient, and realistic to simply increase the number of white women birthing children. It requires no supreme court decision. Low birthrate is, unlike immigration enforcement, something all world governments have admitted is one of the most endangering threats of our time, and perhaps of all time.

    When the government has correctly identified a problem stemming from the incompetence and inaction of its citizens, a revolution is almost inevitable in free societies, enabled by the cybernetic feedback loop connecting the citizenry and the government, which compels young men to action, while at the same time laxing enforcement of the law. Mass immigration is, in fact, a consequence of low birthrates, as are reduced prison sentences and shrinking police forces.

    Because there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration.

    ORLY?  We already DID it with Trump.  DAPA is dead.  DACA is on the chopping block.  New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers.  Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.

    On the other hand, it is much more feasible, expedient, and realistic to simply increase the number of white women birthing children.

    You can’t ask people to have more children if they are immiserated and barely able to afford their expenses as they are.  The downward pressure on wages and escalation of living costs CAUSED by immigration is a substantial part of this, as is the white-hostile environment of public schools.

    Getting rid of immigration, and every last immigrant who has become a public charge or criminal, would be an IMMENSE benefit to American founding-stock fertility.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton

    ORLY? We already DID it with Trump. DAPA is dead. DACA is on the chopping block. New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers. Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.
     
    It has accomplished nothing, what you have described is merely verbal and not physical. Those people DAPA was supposed to "protect" were already here for decades unmolested by a totally incompetent and disinterested law enforcement network. Cops don't care about illegals. H-1B is a tiny share of total immigrants, as is DACA.

    And most importantly, all of these hollow, meager, sub-legal policy changes can (and in all probability, will, and within the next 4 years) be reversed by a Democratic, -or even Republican-, future President.

    I'll never understand how some people can boast about this kind of thing. Some people are just unable to differentiate the meat of the animal from its intestinal contents, I guess.


    You can’t ask people to have more children if they are immiserated and barely able to afford their expenses as they are. The downward pressure on wages and escalation of living costs CAUSED by immigration is a substantial part of this, as is the white-hostile environment of public schools.
     
    Who said anything about asking? In Kyrgyzstan, men primarily forced their fertility rate from an all time low of nearly 2 (below replacement for their mortality levels), to a healthier level of around 3, in a matter of 15 years. Also, our schoola are not anti-white.

    Getting rid of immigration, and every last immigrant who has become a public charge or criminal, would be an IMMENSE benefit to American founding-stock fertility.
     
    No, it would be terrible and lower it even further. We'd be at the Greek or Estonian level if you did that.
    , @216

    ORLY? We already DID it with Trump. DAPA is dead. DACA is on the chopping block. New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers. Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.
     
    The Professional Right focuses exclusively on federal politics, leaving state politics to niche "free market" activists. And ignores local politics entirely.

    Congress is enthralled to pesky farmers and subversive CEOs, and is sensitive to bused-in ethnic activists.

    There are some things we can do to make immigration less attractive at lower levels. E-Verify, development restrictions, health and building code enforcement, allowing illegals to sue for unpaid wages, cynically backing environmental/animal regulations to punish the farm lobby.

    Red states could also be more aggressive in regulating their public universities, particularly towards making their Board of Regents electable. Elected regents could end the practice of universities awarding H-1Bs (exempted from the cap) and barring the sponsorship of OPT. They might even be able to bar international students entirely.
  49. @Feryl

    The “problem” (if you want to call it that — our society is actually vastly improved on all the metrics that white nationalists babble about, such as crime)
     
    In Steven Pinker's latest book, he says that the 1953-1963 birth cohort was largely responsible for the massive wave of mischief that happened in the late 1960's-early 1990's. This is the generation which kicked off the obesity epidemic, continues to drink heavily, is prone to incarceration, prone to homelessness, and was heavily responsible for the surge of nihilistic youth culture in the 1970's and very early 80's. The 1964-1972 cohort was behind the slacker/grunge culture of the 90's (of the "big four" grunge bands, only three founding members of these bands were born before 1964), however, that was relatively toothless and meek compared to the unhinged madness of punk rock (and the peak of punk music from circa 1979-1982 coincided with late 50's and early 60's births being in high school and college). But admittedly, the 1964-1972 cohort is only somewhat more pro-social than the late Boomers.

    It can't be emphasized enough just how atrocious the youth culture of the 1970's was. It's inflicted damage on the youngsters of that era that will never be repaired.

    Pinker says that the later Boomers were far more destructive to the over all social fabric than any of the other generations to come along in the 20th and 21st century. But keep in mind that it's late Boomers who consistently register as a very pessimistic cohort. So your jab at "white nationalists" is better aimed at late Boomers who were socialized to destroy things, and as such, have no hope for the present or future.

    The police are solving a lower share of murder cases, basically exclusively accounted for by cases with black victims.

    I’m trying to think of the biggest examples that would have the most effect on crime stats. Columbus, OH (pop. 892,000), which averages nearly 100 murders a year, did not report anything to the FBI in 2012 or 2013.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    I dunno what you are getting at.

    But indices of social pathology (drug use, drinking, crime, teen sex) rose dramatically around 1967-1970, coinciding exactly with mid-late period Boomers entering their high school and college years. And 17-27 year olds commit most crime. Meanwhile, drinking, crime, and teen sex all fell dramatically from about 1997-2000. Coinciding with late X-ers and early Millennials being in high school and college. And teenagers saw greater improvement in their behavior in the late 90's compared to adults. In other words, adults in the late 90's were to some extent continuing to repeat the bad habits they'd developed in the 60's, 70's and early 80's, whereas people who grew up in the late 80's and 90's never had those habits in the first place. And largely never will.

    The Monitoring the Future study of drug use (which began in 1976) registered peak levels of teen drinking and pot smoking in 1979. Coke and Speed peaked in the early 80's.

    The Youth Risk Behavior survey, which dates back to about 1990, showed fairly high levels of self reported violence (have you been in a fight in the last 12 months? etc.) and promiscuity (have you had sex in the last 12 months?) in the earlier 1990's, but these "wild" behaviors have all been declining since the late 90's. And the late 2000's and 2010's saw dramatic reductions in violence and sex among teenagers. The cohort born from circa 1953-1972 is the most destructive (punk and grunge), the 1973-1986 cohort is moderately better. The 1987-1995 cohort is more improved still. And Gen Z (those born since 1996) causes no trouble at all.

    Steven Pinker says that the drug fixation of late 60's-early 80's youth culture is indicative of a couple generations (Boomers and early X-ers) going way off the rails, yet he also says we should be heartened that other generations made better choices.
  50. @216
    Sessions is too old and too short for a Presidential campaign.

    A political solution is very difficult, mainly due to the unwillingness of the left to "quit while they are a ahead" and grant local autonomy on the contentious culture issues.

    The best outcome is the Peter Turchin solution, where the US under a leftist president loses a war to China/Russia; subsequently the economy collapses and the US breaks up under a joint occupation. And this is probably the mildest scenario I envsion, which could still mean six figures of casualties.

    A sizeable amount of Gen Y/Z white voters won't go for the GOP until it is "de-toxified", and the same is true of the moderate leaning Hispanics/Asians.

    The test will be if DSA starts running as a seperate party in the perma-blue states. A significant number of GOP pols and donors would actually appreciate that, as the GOP base would be checkmated and forced to vote for neoliberal Dems.

    That's probably the worst scenario, barring a DSA driven "climate population realignment". That means an eight figure casualty count.

    The best outcome is the Peter Turchin solution, where the US under a leftist president loses a war to China/Russia; subsequently the economy collapses and the US breaks up under a joint occupation. And this is probably the mildest scenario I envsion, which could still mean six figures of casualties.

    The Soviet elders of the late 1980’s and 1990’s saw the writing on the wall; moreover, they believed that Reagan et al were relatively benevolent, and wanted a “new global order” revolving around peace and “free trade”.

    However, in the 90’s and subsequent decades US political and foreign policy norms have swiftly degenerated, exposing how stupid and treacherous this country became when it went all of one decade without a serious foe. And the equity build up from America’s founding through the 1980’s has all been pissed away at this point, all because Americans became extremely greedy and arrogant in the wake of the Soviet Union dissolving.

    I think that letting the US gracefully exit it’s post-1946 claim to world hegemony will only be possible with leaders born since the mid-1970’s. After all, the generations who grew up before 1991 still think America is a (relatively) good guy. I’m afraid that older generations of Americans are delusional about America’s moral legitimacy. And I’m nervous that the leaders of those generations would rather plunge the US into a desperate conflict with various foes than acknowledge that America will not, and perhaps can not, be great again.

  51. @Feryl
    Just as libertarian types need to get used to big government due to changes in technology and human culture since the 1920's, the "family values" crowd has to come to terms with the fact that the human population worldwide is so ginormous that there is increasingly little incentive to reproduce. Children are no longer frequently struck down in childbirth or infancy, as they often were prior to the mid-20th century. Children since the mid-20 th century have seldom been used for labor , at least not in the first world, so it's not as if people need kids in order to have help on the farm (fewer and fewer Americans have been involved in agriculture since the mid-20th century). There just isn't much reason to have 3-5 kids anymore. Back in the New Deal era, the US experienced a massive baby boom because we had the resources to build massive suburbs around all of our cities. We suddenly had massive numbers of new houses, roads, parks, schools etc. all of which needed to be populated with new births since few people were born in the 1920's and 30's, and the GI and Silent Generation, who had escaped the Ellis Island days, 2 world wars, and the great depression, were eager to launch into a new era.

    Asking Millennials and Gen Z to commence another baby boom is laughable. The ecological, cultural, political, and economic realities of the 21st century are way different than what they were in the 1940's-1960's. Andrew Yang, not Jerry Falwell, is the future. Insuring a peaceful and dignified life for the present and future inhabitants of a world threatened by over-population and resource depletion (and perhaps, the coming clash of at least 3 major powers, the US aka the West by proxy, China, and Russia) is what's important. Not having 5 kids and awaiting the rapture.

    White fertility actually ticked up in the 1990s.
     
    Late Boomers (and often their early Gen X wives) were high on the hog of a bogus economic "boom" contrived by the beginning of neo-liberalism, and further egged on by the collapse of communism which damaged the intellectual faculties of many people. Remember, in the 1960's thru the mid-1980's fear of urban and eventually suburban decay, nuclear warfare, and environmental depletion convinced many people to have fewer children, or no children at all. But circa 1988-2000 is when late Boomer men sure convinced a lot of Boomer and early X-er women to have kids, which coincided with the death of the Cold War, gentrification ("Disneyfication" of cities once thought to be beyond hope), and late Boomer hostility toward environmentalism (it's the early Boomer cohort who were the big hippies, and often swore to never have kids back in the 60's and 70's).

    gentrification

    Didn’t fully emerge as a trend until the 2000s. Even while crime was declining during the 1990s, the cities were still considerably more violent than they are today. What made gentrification possible was increased credentialism, and the large scale exit of manufacturing from loft spaces that subsequently found new uses. The tech industry accelerated this trend in the 2010s.

    It’s hard to think of a city where the “white working class vote” is still a major influence in municipal politics. Both Portlands?

    Addendum to earlier post

    Israeli conscription is not 2 years, it is actually 3 years for many (male) conscripts. It is two years for women. Reserve duty appears considerably truncated from what IDF Boomers and GenX did.

    Contrast with ROK, where men serve two years and women aren’t drafted. Taiwan conscripts men for 1 year. Singapore conscripts for 2 years.

    The latter three have absymal fertility rates (1), contrasted with similarly rich Japan which doesn’t have a draft yet has higher fertility (1.5).

    If people here have a background in any of these four countries, has there been discussion on female conscription? Would this change the marriage marketplace? Or is Zionism sui generis? Do Arabs lose out or gain from being exempted, and thus able to work or attend university?

    Certain OldLeft like the draft as a means of “social equity”, and remaining Boomercon ‘Nam vets also might see it as a way to “instill patriotism”. FWIW, despite the worship of Israel in Con Inc, I’ve never heard anyone suggest that copying the IDF model of conscription and routine reserve call up would “improve social cohesion”. Too collectivist, I guess.

    • Replies: @Feryl

    Didn’t fully emerge as a trend until the 2000s. Even while crime was declining during the 1990s, the cities were still considerably more violent than they are today. What made gentrification possible was increased credentialism, and the large scale exit of manufacturing from loft spaces that subsequently found new uses. The tech industry accelerated this trend in the 2010s.
     
    I meant "gentrification" in the sense, as I say, Disney-fication. Cultural as much as economic*. The 1990's was the "family values" decade. The Religious Right peaked in the early 1990's, during, yup, you guessed it, a major baby boom. The birth rate was higher in the early 90's high crime period than it was during the lower crime period of the late 90's. What I'm getting at is that people used high crime rates as an excuse to not have kids in the 1970's-mid 1980's. Just as they used resource depletion and cold war fears to not have kids. 1967-1985 was NOT the family values period. That was the heyday of Boomer hedonism, and cold war fears, and predictions that vast stretches of America would be teeming with crime and pollution for decades to come. 1986-1993 was the family values period, when the birth rate surged, the Soviet Union dissolved, and people grew more hopeful about the future. And these trends got stronger with each passing year. By Clinton's 2nd year (1994), however, we were beginning to enter the Woke Yuppie phase, when more and more upper middle class people pretended to care about things besides money and status....Obviously, they didn't really care, judging by their actions and not their words.

    *Economically speaking, the massive inflation of property values began in the mid-late 1980's, and would only of course get worse in following decades. So crime has increasingly been relegated to 2nd and 3rd tier cities while NYC and LA are now much safer than they were in the early 1980's.
    , @Twinkie

    If people here have a background in any of these four countries, has there been discussion on female conscription?
     
    Very little to none.
  52. @Mr. Rational

    Because there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration.
     
    ORLY?  We already DID it with Trump.  DAPA is dead.  DACA is on the chopping block.  New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers.  Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.

    On the other hand, it is much more feasible, expedient, and realistic to simply increase the number of white women birthing children.
     
    You can't ask people to have more children if they are immiserated and barely able to afford their expenses as they are.  The downward pressure on wages and escalation of living costs CAUSED by immigration is a substantial part of this, as is the white-hostile environment of public schools.

    Getting rid of immigration, and every last immigrant who has become a public charge or criminal, would be an IMMENSE benefit to American founding-stock fertility.

    ORLY? We already DID it with Trump. DAPA is dead. DACA is on the chopping block. New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers. Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.

    It has accomplished nothing, what you have described is merely verbal and not physical. Those people DAPA was supposed to “protect” were already here for decades unmolested by a totally incompetent and disinterested law enforcement network. Cops don’t care about illegals. H-1B is a tiny share of total immigrants, as is DACA.

    And most importantly, all of these hollow, meager, sub-legal policy changes can (and in all probability, will, and within the next 4 years) be reversed by a Democratic, -or even Republican-, future President.

    I’ll never understand how some people can boast about this kind of thing. Some people are just unable to differentiate the meat of the animal from its intestinal contents, I guess.

    You can’t ask people to have more children if they are immiserated and barely able to afford their expenses as they are. The downward pressure on wages and escalation of living costs CAUSED by immigration is a substantial part of this, as is the white-hostile environment of public schools.

    Who said anything about asking? In Kyrgyzstan, men primarily forced their fertility rate from an all time low of nearly 2 (below replacement for their mortality levels), to a healthier level of around 3, in a matter of 15 years. Also, our schoola are not anti-white.

    Getting rid of immigration, and every last immigrant who has become a public charge or criminal, would be an IMMENSE benefit to American founding-stock fertility.

    No, it would be terrible and lower it even further. We’d be at the Greek or Estonian level if you did that.

    • Replies: @216

    H-1B is a tiny share of total immigrants
     
    Wrong

    We lost WA and VA thanks to H-1B

    Each H-1B means a spouse (H-4), children and then the chain migration.

    Kyrgyzstan
     
    A patriarchical Islamic authoritarian state. Somewhat more Indo-European than Uighurs.

    We’d be at the Greek or Estonian level if you did that.
     
    What 1.5 vs 1.7?

    This is the hair splitting of demography, you're making the same mistake as Karlin but from a different angle. A lone child is uncommon, normally its two or none.

    Karlin claimed that "generous Sweden" was more effective than "swine right Hungary", failing to consider exactly who in Sweden was giving birth.

    There is only one rich country with a high TFR, Israel. And one sub-population, the Mountain West LDS, which is sadly assimilating.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/where-are-russias-breeders/
  53. @Mr. Rational

    Because there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration.
     
    ORLY?  We already DID it with Trump.  DAPA is dead.  DACA is on the chopping block.  New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers.  Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.

    On the other hand, it is much more feasible, expedient, and realistic to simply increase the number of white women birthing children.
     
    You can't ask people to have more children if they are immiserated and barely able to afford their expenses as they are.  The downward pressure on wages and escalation of living costs CAUSED by immigration is a substantial part of this, as is the white-hostile environment of public schools.

    Getting rid of immigration, and every last immigrant who has become a public charge or criminal, would be an IMMENSE benefit to American founding-stock fertility.

    ORLY? We already DID it with Trump. DAPA is dead. DACA is on the chopping block. New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers. Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.

    The Professional Right focuses exclusively on federal politics, leaving state politics to niche “free market” activists. And ignores local politics entirely.

    Congress is enthralled to pesky farmers and subversive CEOs, and is sensitive to bused-in ethnic activists.

    There are some things we can do to make immigration less attractive at lower levels. E-Verify, development restrictions, health and building code enforcement, allowing illegals to sue for unpaid wages, cynically backing environmental/animal regulations to punish the farm lobby.

    Red states could also be more aggressive in regulating their public universities, particularly towards making their Board of Regents electable. Elected regents could end the practice of universities awarding H-1Bs (exempted from the cap) and barring the sponsorship of OPT. They might even be able to bar international students entirely.

  54. @Oblivionrecurs
    The police are solving a lower share of murder cases, basically exclusively accounted for by cases with black victims.

    I'm trying to think of the biggest examples that would have the most effect on crime stats. Columbus, OH (pop. 892,000), which averages nearly 100 murders a year, did not report anything to the FBI in 2012 or 2013.

    I dunno what you are getting at.

    But indices of social pathology (drug use, drinking, crime, teen sex) rose dramatically around 1967-1970, coinciding exactly with mid-late period Boomers entering their high school and college years. And 17-27 year olds commit most crime. Meanwhile, drinking, crime, and teen sex all fell dramatically from about 1997-2000. Coinciding with late X-ers and early Millennials being in high school and college. And teenagers saw greater improvement in their behavior in the late 90’s compared to adults. In other words, adults in the late 90’s were to some extent continuing to repeat the bad habits they’d developed in the 60’s, 70’s and early 80’s, whereas people who grew up in the late 80’s and 90’s never had those habits in the first place. And largely never will.

    The Monitoring the Future study of drug use (which began in 1976) registered peak levels of teen drinking and pot smoking in 1979. Coke and Speed peaked in the early 80’s.

    The Youth Risk Behavior survey, which dates back to about 1990, showed fairly high levels of self reported violence (have you been in a fight in the last 12 months? etc.) and promiscuity (have you had sex in the last 12 months?) in the earlier 1990’s, but these “wild” behaviors have all been declining since the late 90’s. And the late 2000’s and 2010’s saw dramatic reductions in violence and sex among teenagers. The cohort born from circa 1953-1972 is the most destructive (punk and grunge), the 1973-1986 cohort is moderately better. The 1987-1995 cohort is more improved still. And Gen Z (those born since 1996) causes no trouble at all.

    Steven Pinker says that the drug fixation of late 60’s-early 80’s youth culture is indicative of a couple generations (Boomers and early X-ers) going way off the rails, yet he also says we should be heartened that other generations made better choices.

  55. @Sam Coulton

    ORLY? We already DID it with Trump. DAPA is dead. DACA is on the chopping block. New H-1B policies have made it far more expensive and difficult to replace American tech workers. Nominating and electing Trump was definitely a political act.
     
    It has accomplished nothing, what you have described is merely verbal and not physical. Those people DAPA was supposed to "protect" were already here for decades unmolested by a totally incompetent and disinterested law enforcement network. Cops don't care about illegals. H-1B is a tiny share of total immigrants, as is DACA.

    And most importantly, all of these hollow, meager, sub-legal policy changes can (and in all probability, will, and within the next 4 years) be reversed by a Democratic, -or even Republican-, future President.

    I'll never understand how some people can boast about this kind of thing. Some people are just unable to differentiate the meat of the animal from its intestinal contents, I guess.


    You can’t ask people to have more children if they are immiserated and barely able to afford their expenses as they are. The downward pressure on wages and escalation of living costs CAUSED by immigration is a substantial part of this, as is the white-hostile environment of public schools.
     
    Who said anything about asking? In Kyrgyzstan, men primarily forced their fertility rate from an all time low of nearly 2 (below replacement for their mortality levels), to a healthier level of around 3, in a matter of 15 years. Also, our schoola are not anti-white.

    Getting rid of immigration, and every last immigrant who has become a public charge or criminal, would be an IMMENSE benefit to American founding-stock fertility.
     
    No, it would be terrible and lower it even further. We'd be at the Greek or Estonian level if you did that.

    H-1B is a tiny share of total immigrants

    Wrong

    We lost WA and VA thanks to H-1B

    Each H-1B means a spouse (H-4), children and then the chain migration.

    Kyrgyzstan

    A patriarchical Islamic authoritarian state. Somewhat more Indo-European than Uighurs.

    We’d be at the Greek or Estonian level if you did that.

    What 1.5 vs 1.7?

    This is the hair splitting of demography, you’re making the same mistake as Karlin but from a different angle. A lone child is uncommon, normally its two or none.

    Karlin claimed that “generous Sweden” was more effective than “swine right Hungary”, failing to consider exactly who in Sweden was giving birth.

    There is only one rich country with a high TFR, Israel. And one sub-population, the Mountain West LDS, which is sadly assimilating.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/where-are-russias-breeders/

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton

    Wrong

    We lost WA and VA thanks to H-1B
     

    I sincerely doubt that; and in any case, my point that H-1B is a tiny share of immigrants still stands. You primarily lost WA thanks to White women (I say "you" because I have never even registered to vote and I never will, and don't care who gets elected because it will never matter.)

    Each H-1B means a spouse (H-4), children and then the chain migration.
     
    Not really. The fertility rate of the people who get H-1Bs is as low as ours. Even their total family size is comparable.

    A patriarchical Islamic authoritarian state. Somewhat more Indo-European than Uighurs.
     
    ?

    The Uighurs have higher European ancestry genetically than the Kyrgyz. I am a patriarchist and an authoritarian; and Kyrgyzstan is not really Islamic. It was primarily atheist in the Soviet era and Islam today is like Christianity here. Kyrgyzstan's increased fertility was generated by its Indo European (or more accurately, Iranian) cultural heritage.


    Did I wake up in an alternate reality or did the alternative right really become a matriarchy?


    What 1.5 vs 1.7?
     
    More like 1.3.

    Note that the 2-child per household effect has dysgenic consequences for an unknown reason.

    https://www.genetics.org/content/202/3/869


    The preceding arguments need not imply that human behavior by natural selection has come to a standstill (Reed and Aquadro 2006), one key issue being that natural selection is a function of both survival and reproduction. Even if variance in survival were to be eliminated entirely, phenotypes that are associated with reproductive output will inevitably be promoted by the blind forces of selection. However, another aspect of modern human behavior—the tendency toward families of similar size (the two-child syndrome in middle-class neighborhoods in westernized societies)—may thwart this aspect of selection as well. Notably, this very strategy (equilibration of family sizes) has been used to accumulate deleterious mutations in experimental populations of Drosophila, yielding a 0.2–2% decline in fitness per generation (Shabalina et al. 1997).
     
  56. @216

    H-1B is a tiny share of total immigrants
     
    Wrong

    We lost WA and VA thanks to H-1B

    Each H-1B means a spouse (H-4), children and then the chain migration.

    Kyrgyzstan
     
    A patriarchical Islamic authoritarian state. Somewhat more Indo-European than Uighurs.

    We’d be at the Greek or Estonian level if you did that.
     
    What 1.5 vs 1.7?

    This is the hair splitting of demography, you're making the same mistake as Karlin but from a different angle. A lone child is uncommon, normally its two or none.

    Karlin claimed that "generous Sweden" was more effective than "swine right Hungary", failing to consider exactly who in Sweden was giving birth.

    There is only one rich country with a high TFR, Israel. And one sub-population, the Mountain West LDS, which is sadly assimilating.

    https://www.unz.com/akarlin/where-are-russias-breeders/

    Wrong

    We lost WA and VA thanks to H-1B

    I sincerely doubt that; and in any case, my point that H-1B is a tiny share of immigrants still stands. You primarily lost WA thanks to White women (I say “you” because I have never even registered to vote and I never will, and don’t care who gets elected because it will never matter.)

    Each H-1B means a spouse (H-4), children and then the chain migration.

    Not really. The fertility rate of the people who get H-1Bs is as low as ours. Even their total family size is comparable.

    A patriarchical Islamic authoritarian state. Somewhat more Indo-European than Uighurs.

    ?

    The Uighurs have higher European ancestry genetically than the Kyrgyz. I am a patriarchist and an authoritarian; and Kyrgyzstan is not really Islamic. It was primarily atheist in the Soviet era and Islam today is like Christianity here. Kyrgyzstan’s increased fertility was generated by its Indo European (or more accurately, Iranian) cultural heritage.

    Did I wake up in an alternate reality or did the alternative right really become a matriarchy?

    What 1.5 vs 1.7?

    More like 1.3.

    Note that the 2-child per household effect has dysgenic consequences for an unknown reason.

    https://www.genetics.org/content/202/3/869

    The preceding arguments need not imply that human behavior by natural selection has come to a standstill (Reed and Aquadro 2006), one key issue being that natural selection is a function of both survival and reproduction. Even if variance in survival were to be eliminated entirely, phenotypes that are associated with reproductive output will inevitably be promoted by the blind forces of selection. However, another aspect of modern human behavior—the tendency toward families of similar size (the two-child syndrome in middle-class neighborhoods in westernized societies)—may thwart this aspect of selection as well. Notably, this very strategy (equilibration of family sizes) has been used to accumulate deleterious mutations in experimental populations of Drosophila, yielding a 0.2–2% decline in fitness per generation (Shabalina et al. 1997).

    • Replies: @BlackFlag
    Isn't it simply because every pair producing approximately the same number of children means better functioning genotypes don't replicate much more than inferior ones?
  57. @Twinkie
    "Majority-minority" is a rather unintelligent term. While I acknowledge that there is some political and sociological salience to measuring the percentages of whites, this term agglomerates people - American blacks, various different kinds of Hispanics, and vastly different Asians - into one "blob" of "minority."

    At minimum, I think it will be more useful to look at white plurality across the states, rather than white vs. "majority-minority" numbers.

    it is hard not to notice that in all of the once reliably red states now in the process of becoming blue–Texas, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina–the next generation is majority non-white. It’s almost as though Democrats cannot lose in states where most of the population is not white.
     
    It's important, though, not to overstate the case and feed into the left's demographical triumphalism. For example, control of the Virginia state legislature recently flipped to the Democrats (for the first time in 26 years, the latter will control both the governorship and the legislature in Virginia), and the Washington Post couldn't stop crowing about how a "new majority" of nonwhites is overturning the GOP in the state.

    The problem is, a lot of those "nonwhites" are unnaturalized immigrants and didnt (couldn't) vote. What happened was a combination of:

    1) Demographic changes - not so much white vs. non-white in nature, but a massive influx of northerners following the money/jobs and a sizable outflow of native Virginians to farther South (mostly North Carolina and Tennesee);

    2) The judiciary's interference - but for the left-appointed judges mandating jerrymandering of several key districts for supposed "previous racial bias," the GOP would have kept control of the lower house;

    3) The GOP's self-immolation - Republicans failed to field candidates in a quarter of the House of Delegates races and simply gave up the fight in those areas (which allowed the Democrats to concentrate resources into the swing districts - and they won nearly all of them). The Republican Party of Virginia has been dogged in the past decade or so by utter incompetence and spent all its energey infighting and failed to retain the party's influence, let alone expand its reach (e.g. it has failed to train and deploy field staff - some observers noted in the swing districts that they saw Democrat canvassers outnumber Republican ones 5-to-1); and

    4) Socio-economic swifts in party ID - the Washington Post and a whole lot of people fiaxate on Northern Virginia, but this election was, in reality, lost around the suburbs of Richmond. DC suburbs have always been vote-cows for the Democrats - that hasn't changed much. But, this wasn't a state-wide election, but a state senate and house election, meaning what happened in Northern Virginia had little to do with what happened in the rest of the state. In the past, the professional/upper middle class Richmond suburbs were strongly Republican and served as a backstop for the GOP losses around the DC suburbs. In this election the GOP was absolutely routed in those suburbs peopled by "pocketbook Republicans." This is in great part a result of the realignment of the GOP becoming more Trumpist. Rural and downscale (white) areas of the state have become much more strongly Republican, but suburban and professional class whites (esp. women) have become very strongly anti-Trump, and this trend is accelerating beyond the large metropolitan areas to the belts around mid-sized cities.

    “Majority-minority” is the corporate media term of choice. According to Wikipedia, it was first used in a 1977 Supreme Court case.

    That doesn’t mean it’s not a suboptimal term. But the way it is being used here does not merely indicate the lack of a white majority. In California, Texas, and New Mexico, Hispanic students are a majority (and in DC, blacks are a majority) and so these are consequently distinguished on the map from the majority minority states where there is no racial majority.

  58. @216

    gentrification
     
    Didn't fully emerge as a trend until the 2000s. Even while crime was declining during the 1990s, the cities were still considerably more violent than they are today. What made gentrification possible was increased credentialism, and the large scale exit of manufacturing from loft spaces that subsequently found new uses. The tech industry accelerated this trend in the 2010s.

    It's hard to think of a city where the "white working class vote" is still a major influence in municipal politics. Both Portlands?

    ---

    Addendum to earlier post

    Israeli conscription is not 2 years, it is actually 3 years for many (male) conscripts. It is two years for women. Reserve duty appears considerably truncated from what IDF Boomers and GenX did.

    Contrast with ROK, where men serve two years and women aren't drafted. Taiwan conscripts men for 1 year. Singapore conscripts for 2 years.

    The latter three have absymal fertility rates (1), contrasted with similarly rich Japan which doesn't have a draft yet has higher fertility (1.5).

    If people here have a background in any of these four countries, has there been discussion on female conscription? Would this change the marriage marketplace? Or is Zionism sui generis? Do Arabs lose out or gain from being exempted, and thus able to work or attend university?

    Certain OldLeft like the draft as a means of "social equity", and remaining Boomercon 'Nam vets also might see it as a way to "instill patriotism". FWIW, despite the worship of Israel in Con Inc, I've never heard anyone suggest that copying the IDF model of conscription and routine reserve call up would "improve social cohesion". Too collectivist, I guess.

    Didn’t fully emerge as a trend until the 2000s. Even while crime was declining during the 1990s, the cities were still considerably more violent than they are today. What made gentrification possible was increased credentialism, and the large scale exit of manufacturing from loft spaces that subsequently found new uses. The tech industry accelerated this trend in the 2010s.

    I meant “gentrification” in the sense, as I say, Disney-fication. Cultural as much as economic*. The 1990’s was the “family values” decade. The Religious Right peaked in the early 1990’s, during, yup, you guessed it, a major baby boom. The birth rate was higher in the early 90’s high crime period than it was during the lower crime period of the late 90’s. What I’m getting at is that people used high crime rates as an excuse to not have kids in the 1970’s-mid 1980’s. Just as they used resource depletion and cold war fears to not have kids. 1967-1985 was NOT the family values period. That was the heyday of Boomer hedonism, and cold war fears, and predictions that vast stretches of America would be teeming with crime and pollution for decades to come. 1986-1993 was the family values period, when the birth rate surged, the Soviet Union dissolved, and people grew more hopeful about the future. And these trends got stronger with each passing year. By Clinton’s 2nd year (1994), however, we were beginning to enter the Woke Yuppie phase, when more and more upper middle class people pretended to care about things besides money and status….Obviously, they didn’t really care, judging by their actions and not their words.

    *Economically speaking, the massive inflation of property values began in the mid-late 1980’s, and would only of course get worse in following decades. So crime has increasingly been relegated to 2nd and 3rd tier cities while NYC and LA are now much safer than they were in the early 1980’s.

    • Replies: @216
    Disney did have something of a second Golden Age of animation during this time. Now they are cashing in on Millennial nostalgia by making live action versions.

    There was also talk of making a third patriotic-themed Disney world in Virginia.

    Diseny and the Religious Right also went to blows with each other, with Woke Capital winning each time.

    Ordinary conservatives didn't get it, one of the great laments is how corporations were shielded from Right-wing backlash because of the wars in the 2000s and lolbertarianism in the 2010s
  59. @Dissident
    NOTE: I had composed the following comment as a reply to this comment by our host, AE, in the "Removing Politics from Politics" thread. Realizing, however, that thread would be closing imminently, I decided to post here instead.

    On average the UR commentariat scores, I would imagine, very low on agreeableness.
     
    Let me take this opportunity to express my appreciation to the host of this blog, Audacious Epigone, for his policies and work in moderating comments. It's one of the main reasons why he is one of the few authors besides Steve Sailer whom I've sometimes commented under. I've found the heat-to-light ratio I've observed in, shall we say, less-curated sections of UR (or perhaps, in some cases at least, differently curated) tends to be too unfavorable to make subjecting oneself to them worth the effort. Life's just too taxing already and too short for that kind of self-flagellation.

    (I should perhaps also thank AE for the positive treatment I have thus far experienced from him concerning my own comments. I hope I have not be guilty of abusing his indulgence. I have been making an effort to be more mindful of the politeness and consideration toward other readers that can be exercised by making use of the "MORE" HTML tag in inordinately lengthy comments-- esp. when veering off-topic.)

    Incidentally, is there anywhere we can read a little about AE, such as some info on his background or some of his personal views? Or perhaps register our appreciation by dropping a coin or two into his jar?

    That’s very kind of you to say, thanks.

    Re: comment moderation, it’s not something I like doing. But there are other places on the internet for people to cathartically blow off steam. A lot of the traffic to this blog comes through search engine returns. People who might otherwise go down the empirical rabbit hole will be turned off by seeing comments referring to people as monkeys or graphic fantasies about perpetrating violence against those perceived to have committed wrongs.

    Re: comments, I’m not indulging you–you’re indulging me! That probably sounds corny but it’s true. I love the quality of (most of) the comments here.

    Re: the bio, just drop an email I can contact you with and I’d be happy to oblige.

    Re: patronage, the sentiment is much appreciated. There are truth seekers out there scratching out a living doing this who need it more than I do, though. Readers are always welcome to become patrons (via patreon, I know, I know) of The Unz Review at the link off to the right just under the end of each post. Ron finances this whole operation on his own so anything that helps defer his costs a bit is warmly received.

  60. @Achmed E. Newman
    Firstly, I'm guessing A.E. doesn't want to divulge much of his personal background, though a snail-mail P.O. box for tips might be handy, if possible. I think his personal views come out some of the time.

    I'm very grateful to have my comments appear in real time, unlike with Steve Sailer (depending on his woke hours). Yes, I am also glad to get replies, and Mr. Audacious Epigone is the best on all the threads I've read here* as far as engaging in conversations with the commenters.

    Great job!


    .

    * I had to avoid the Commie writers for my blood-pressure, but they may be just as engaging - I'll never know - stupidity breeds more stupidity with those guys.

    Lol re: the “commie writers”, that is.

    The kind words are very much appreciated, thanks.

  61. @Feryl

    Didn’t fully emerge as a trend until the 2000s. Even while crime was declining during the 1990s, the cities were still considerably more violent than they are today. What made gentrification possible was increased credentialism, and the large scale exit of manufacturing from loft spaces that subsequently found new uses. The tech industry accelerated this trend in the 2010s.
     
    I meant "gentrification" in the sense, as I say, Disney-fication. Cultural as much as economic*. The 1990's was the "family values" decade. The Religious Right peaked in the early 1990's, during, yup, you guessed it, a major baby boom. The birth rate was higher in the early 90's high crime period than it was during the lower crime period of the late 90's. What I'm getting at is that people used high crime rates as an excuse to not have kids in the 1970's-mid 1980's. Just as they used resource depletion and cold war fears to not have kids. 1967-1985 was NOT the family values period. That was the heyday of Boomer hedonism, and cold war fears, and predictions that vast stretches of America would be teeming with crime and pollution for decades to come. 1986-1993 was the family values period, when the birth rate surged, the Soviet Union dissolved, and people grew more hopeful about the future. And these trends got stronger with each passing year. By Clinton's 2nd year (1994), however, we were beginning to enter the Woke Yuppie phase, when more and more upper middle class people pretended to care about things besides money and status....Obviously, they didn't really care, judging by their actions and not their words.

    *Economically speaking, the massive inflation of property values began in the mid-late 1980's, and would only of course get worse in following decades. So crime has increasingly been relegated to 2nd and 3rd tier cities while NYC and LA are now much safer than they were in the early 1980's.

    Disney did have something of a second Golden Age of animation during this time. Now they are cashing in on Millennial nostalgia by making live action versions.

    There was also talk of making a third patriotic-themed Disney world in Virginia.

    Diseny and the Religious Right also went to blows with each other, with Woke Capital winning each time.

    Ordinary conservatives didn’t get it, one of the great laments is how corporations were shielded from Right-wing backlash because of the wars in the 2000s and lolbertarianism in the 2010s

  62. @Oblivionrecurs
    This is how fucked we are


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    The Cucks are fucked, not you or I. Don’t conflate your interests/fate with that of the Cucks. Don’t lament the death of the Cucks, celebrate it. They are not on our side. There can be no progress in this ountry until the Cucks are wiped out.

  63. Demographics is important but voting patterns also matter, Texas is only 42% white yet Republicans still dominate the state and if there was any erosion in Republican margins in 2018 it was due to college whites in Houston and Dallas abandoning the Republican party.

    It will take decades for Texas to flip based off demographic change, Trump lost Hispanic voters by 27% in 2016 in Texas and won the state by 810,000 votes. At that margin there will need to be 3 million extra Hispanic voters to flip the state. Hispanic voters made up 24% of the 9 million voters in 2016 according to the exit polls or 2.2 million in raw numbers. It will take 40 years for the number of Hispanic voters to rise by 135% from 2.2 million to 5.2 million. What will flip Texas within a decade is if Republicans can’t stop the bleeding with college whites.

    In AZ in 2018, Mcsally did 3% better with non-whites than Trump, her issue is she ran 11% worse with whites and lost as a result.

    https://medium.com/@CatalistAnalytics/what-happened-in-the-arizona-senate-election-4dd1ad0bb228

    Demographic change is very important but the 2018 results show what happens when whites begin to abandon the GOP. I think Trump will be able to restore those margins with white voters though as he will run more of a populist campaign then Republicans did in 2018.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Texas is literally the only state in the country where whites vote more Republican than non-whites vote Democrat, and outside the Deep South, nowhere do whites vote as heavily Republican as white Texans do. It's the lone star state indeed!
  64. @Sam Coulton
    What's happening isn't a result of white "replacement" but a simple matter of white women not reproducing as compared with Black and Hispanic women (who are also now lowering their own fertility).

    There will never be a cogent discussion about what is happening until the cucks and dykes that make up the alt-right acknowledge that what they are facing is not an influx of minorities, but a deflux of whire babies. If white women could up their total fertility rate to 3.5, the tables would turn overnight.


    The "problem" (if you want to call it that -- our society is actually vastly improved on all the metrics that white nationalists babble about, such as crime) is that white women aren't birthing anymore. That's what caused the effect you see in these graphs. The incoming Hispanics and the present population of Blacks was nowbere near capable of replacing white Americans, even if they all had the exact same fertility rates.

    The "replacement conspiracy" is peddled primarily by middleaged childfree white women like Ann Coulter and the cucks who love them, who are looking to shift the blame on to another group for their the consequences of their own poor judgment in life.

    Have you always hated white people or did something happen to you when you were young? Your Scout leader get a little handsy?

    • LOL: Sam Coulton
  65. @Sam Coulton

    Wrong

    We lost WA and VA thanks to H-1B
     

    I sincerely doubt that; and in any case, my point that H-1B is a tiny share of immigrants still stands. You primarily lost WA thanks to White women (I say "you" because I have never even registered to vote and I never will, and don't care who gets elected because it will never matter.)

    Each H-1B means a spouse (H-4), children and then the chain migration.
     
    Not really. The fertility rate of the people who get H-1Bs is as low as ours. Even their total family size is comparable.

    A patriarchical Islamic authoritarian state. Somewhat more Indo-European than Uighurs.
     
    ?

    The Uighurs have higher European ancestry genetically than the Kyrgyz. I am a patriarchist and an authoritarian; and Kyrgyzstan is not really Islamic. It was primarily atheist in the Soviet era and Islam today is like Christianity here. Kyrgyzstan's increased fertility was generated by its Indo European (or more accurately, Iranian) cultural heritage.


    Did I wake up in an alternate reality or did the alternative right really become a matriarchy?


    What 1.5 vs 1.7?
     
    More like 1.3.

    Note that the 2-child per household effect has dysgenic consequences for an unknown reason.

    https://www.genetics.org/content/202/3/869


    The preceding arguments need not imply that human behavior by natural selection has come to a standstill (Reed and Aquadro 2006), one key issue being that natural selection is a function of both survival and reproduction. Even if variance in survival were to be eliminated entirely, phenotypes that are associated with reproductive output will inevitably be promoted by the blind forces of selection. However, another aspect of modern human behavior—the tendency toward families of similar size (the two-child syndrome in middle-class neighborhoods in westernized societies)—may thwart this aspect of selection as well. Notably, this very strategy (equilibration of family sizes) has been used to accumulate deleterious mutations in experimental populations of Drosophila, yielding a 0.2–2% decline in fitness per generation (Shabalina et al. 1997).
     

    Isn’t it simply because every pair producing approximately the same number of children means better functioning genotypes don’t replicate much more than inferior ones?

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    Definitely not. Nobody (including Shabalina) ever determined the mechanism behind the loss of fitness. It's all speculatory.

    Everyone carries good and bad versions of genes and, depending on which parent carries one and your sex, there's a significant probability you will carry one in the homozygous state. Part of what drives the loss of fitness may be the simple mathematical odds of inheriting disadvantageous genotypes when everyone is reproducing twice, producing a roughly equal number of male and female children, leading (ultimately) to an even number of people carrying homozygous alleles.

  66. @BlackFlag
    Isn't it simply because every pair producing approximately the same number of children means better functioning genotypes don't replicate much more than inferior ones?

    Definitely not. Nobody (including Shabalina) ever determined the mechanism behind the loss of fitness. It’s all speculatory.

    Everyone carries good and bad versions of genes and, depending on which parent carries one and your sex, there’s a significant probability you will carry one in the homozygous state. Part of what drives the loss of fitness may be the simple mathematical odds of inheriting disadvantageous genotypes when everyone is reproducing twice, producing a roughly equal number of male and female children, leading (ultimately) to an even number of people carrying homozygous alleles.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton

    leading (ultimately) to an even number of people carrying homozygous alleles.
     
    Or rather, "a LOT of people walking around carrying homozygous alleles".

    Two people with genes in the homozygous state reproducing = danger zone. Expect to see a lot more people with Tay Sachs, Harlequin Icthyosis, etc in the near future. Also an even larger number of borderline cases. A lot of us already can.

  67. @Sam Coulton
    Definitely not. Nobody (including Shabalina) ever determined the mechanism behind the loss of fitness. It's all speculatory.

    Everyone carries good and bad versions of genes and, depending on which parent carries one and your sex, there's a significant probability you will carry one in the homozygous state. Part of what drives the loss of fitness may be the simple mathematical odds of inheriting disadvantageous genotypes when everyone is reproducing twice, producing a roughly equal number of male and female children, leading (ultimately) to an even number of people carrying homozygous alleles.

    leading (ultimately) to an even number of people carrying homozygous alleles.

    Or rather, “a LOT of people walking around carrying homozygous alleles”.

    Two people with genes in the homozygous state reproducing = danger zone. Expect to see a lot more people with Tay Sachs, Harlequin Icthyosis, etc in the near future. Also an even larger number of borderline cases. A lot of us already can.

    • Replies: @Sam Coulton
    The latest round of corrections:

    Or rather, “a LOT of people walking around carrying homozygous alleles”.
     
    *recessive

    Two people with genes in the homozygous state reproducing = danger zone. Expect to see a lot more people with Tay Sachs, Harlequin Icthyosis, etc in the near future. Also an even larger number of borderline cases. A lot of us already can
     
    *heterozygous

    Obviously, people homozygous for the alleles related to Tay Sachs seldom reproduce.
  68. @Sam Coulton

    leading (ultimately) to an even number of people carrying homozygous alleles.
     
    Or rather, "a LOT of people walking around carrying homozygous alleles".

    Two people with genes in the homozygous state reproducing = danger zone. Expect to see a lot more people with Tay Sachs, Harlequin Icthyosis, etc in the near future. Also an even larger number of borderline cases. A lot of us already can.

    The latest round of corrections:

    Or rather, “a LOT of people walking around carrying homozygous alleles”.

    *recessive

    Two people with genes in the homozygous state reproducing = danger zone. Expect to see a lot more people with Tay Sachs, Harlequin Icthyosis, etc in the near future. Also an even larger number of borderline cases. A lot of us already can

    *heterozygous

    Obviously, people homozygous for the alleles related to Tay Sachs seldom reproduce.

  69. The pendulum is swinging towards a generation or two of US politics being dominated by the Democratic coalition of the oppressed, no question. However, there are a few things that I believe will (hopefully) happen that will start the momentum moving back the other way eventually:

    1) The effects of race-crazed leftist policies will drive white support for the Democratic party down to under 20%. Whites are not going to be an outright majority in another 30 years, but will still be the single largest group, the most self-motivated to vote (the Dems have to spend loads of money on GOTV for blacks and latinos), and will still have the overwhelming advantage economically.

    2) Latinos tend to vote more according to economic status rather than racial, so as more move into the middle class, it will erode some of the Democratic advantage with this group. The key is slowing immigration so the labor market stays tight, rather than allowing more low income Latin Americans to come in and hold down wages and jack up competition for housing.

    3) Blacks and Latinos are going to come into direct political conflict in the decades to come, and the Democrats are going to find there is no way to split this baby. There will either be a significant decline in black voter participation or permanent defection of a sizable contingent of Latino voters to the GOP if it appears the right will do a better job of catering to their interests in schools, jobs, and neighborhoods.

    All that said, I think the odds of the next 25-30 years being bananas is pretty high.

  70. in some states, the difference between the reported non-hispanic white population vs the public school non-hispanic white enrollment reaches more than 15%.

    and, by the way, private schools represent only about 10% of the total students. and more of those are asians or ‘fellow whites’

  71. @Patrick82
    Given how Washington DC's demographics have changed in the last 20 years (60 percent black, 28 percent white in 2000---47 percent black, 38 percent white in 2017), I'd guess the majority of white people in DC send their children to private schools.

    Most white people living in DC are probably young professionals that do not have kids.

  72. Here are some comments that I had a while back:
    https://www.unz.com/sbpdl/six-black-males-charged-after-gun-fight-breaks-out-during-high-school-football-in-new-jersey-both-schools-enrollment-are-99-non-white/#comment-3562980

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/average-black-iq-by-state-2019/#comment-3571082

    And one great comment by Jim Christian
    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/average-black-iq-by-state-2019/#comment-3570143

    As long as Conservatives fail to take on the Black population, there will always be calls for mass immigration.

    Now, Conservatives need to push for Whites to have more children, using tax incentives or public spending to right this wrong. But spending time over the Hispanicification of America isn’t going to win you elections, being pro White and anti Black will.

    Just decreasing taxes on Whites who have kids by some substantial amount, will push the demographic momentum back to Whites and save America. Failure to do so, will lead to bad consequences for all.

    Even Hispanics and Asians will be supportive of a push to boost White birthrates, as long as you don’t overdo it in your hostility to both groups. Trump should shift from Build a Wall to Have More Kids, Goy! Hell maybe push for some of those Asians to have more kids. Like the Chinese!

    Also DC being majority Black will eventually shift them to be more conservative soon enough.

  73. Though the Great Replacement is a conspiracy theory only those wishing to be hurled into the void dare discuss, it is hard not to notice that in all of the once reliably red states now in the process of becoming blue–Texas, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina–the next generation is majority non-white. It’s almost as though Democrats cannot lose in states where most of the population is not white.

    The use of the phrase GREAT REPLACEMENT, to describe the demographic effects of nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration, isn’t strong enough.

    To get people’s attention and interest, you have to use WHITE GENOCIDE.

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    If anything, it's white suicide. White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don't want to. Or perhaps more accurately, what they want to happen is just what is happening.

    The greatest line of Trump's presidency IMO was from his speech in Poland where he noted that the most important question of the 21st century is whether or not the West has the will to survive. Nobody is killing us, at least not in numbers significant enough to make a difference. We're killing ourselves and those of us who aren't, are not paying the gift of life forward enough.
  74. @Patrick82
    Given how Washington DC's demographics have changed in the last 20 years (60 percent black, 28 percent white in 2000---47 percent black, 38 percent white in 2017), I'd guess the majority of white people in DC send their children to private schools.

    Or, like London in the UK, they’ll spend their 20 & early 30s in the city, but when their kid is of school age, move out to a whiter area/bigger house rather than have their kid a minority in a black/brown class.

    White people will tolerate diversity for themselves, if the money is good. They arent so tolerant of it if that means sending their kid to a majority non-european school.

  75. @Roger CLIFTONVILLE Acton
    Table 9 on this link gives figures for 1986, before amnesty.

    nces.ed.gov/pubs98/98018/

    Back then, white minorities only existed in Hawaii, Mississippi, New Mexico + DC, which were probably minority white even back in the 1920-1950s era, the pinnacle of white demographic dominance (if not political dominance, that was probably being eroded by 1910 ish)

    Perhaps the most striking change in Nevada schools, which went from nearly 80% white in 1986, to barely 30% today.

    Do whites in Nevada not have kids? Or was the Hispanic invasion just too large?

    It seems like every white person now is old. Where did the young white people go? Just disappeared, from the looks of it.

    • Replies: @216
    Nevada economy dominated by low-paying (but unionized) service jobs in the casino industry.
  76. @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Do whites in Nevada not have kids? Or was the Hispanic invasion just too large?

    It seems like every white person now is old. Where did the young white people go? Just disappeared, from the looks of it.

    Nevada economy dominated by low-paying (but unionized) service jobs in the casino industry.

  77. @Anonymous
    This graph is useful only to white supremacists whose sole goal is to live in a 100% white ethnocommunity.

    If you're not a supporter of the Aryan Brotherhood or similar organizations, it's useless.

    Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine tend to have ok or good schools. Relatively few are bad. Meanwhile, West Virginia has mostly bad schools despite having similar racial demographics as the other three states.

    Massachusetts and Connecticut only have a very slight white majority, yet their schools are slightly better than the ones in Vermont and New Hampshire. Rhode Island is also a "slight white majority" state and has schools that are ok, about as good as Maine.

    I don't care if I live in a town with white schoolkids or not. I just want to live in a town with good schools. A school where kids obey their parents and teachers, study hard, have high expectations for themselves, and avoid juvenile delinquency (sex, drugs, violence, vandalism).

    I don’t care if I live in a town with white schoolkids or not. I just want to live in a town with good schools.

    Your ZIP code is supermajority wealthy White, isn’t it?

  78. Just like Jews in Palestine lost their homeland for 2000 years with nowhere to go, European Whites are going to lose North America and Europe with nowhere to go.

    • Agree: EddieK
    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    The Jews in Palestine today have learned from their historical mistakes.
  79. The linked page doesn’t seem to supply the data necessary to make that map. I am getting a single page, “2019 Math State Snapshot Report.” Is that the right link? Are there more pages that my browser cannot access?

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    That link is for the entire country, "np":

    https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2019/pdf/2020013np4.pdf

    Change the np to each state's two-letter postal code abbreviation to get the figures for that state.

    Ie, for Texas:

    https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2019/pdf/2020013tx4.pdf

  80. @JackOH
    AE, I'm gobsmacked.

    How do these public school demographics and majority-minority whozis whazzis affect my "domestic tranquility", "general welfare", "common good", "more perfect union", all that other 18th century stuff?

    Is it even possible to frame policy debates or score policy proposals in terms of something like whether X policy tends towards or away from the "common good", etc.?

    Would an enterprising young lawyer consider drafting a satirical new constitution for the United States, complete with comic pseudo-scholarly apparatus, to reflect the actual America we live in? Y'know, something like "in order to form a more perfect global cheap labor racket", etc. Maybe do a satirical Declaration of Independence 2.0 along the same lines?

    Time for coffee and corn flakes.

    The question of “common good” does become quite vexing when there is so much disagreement over what constitutes “good” and what even constitutes “common”.

  81. @Anonymous
    This graph is useful only to white supremacists whose sole goal is to live in a 100% white ethnocommunity.

    If you're not a supporter of the Aryan Brotherhood or similar organizations, it's useless.

    Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine tend to have ok or good schools. Relatively few are bad. Meanwhile, West Virginia has mostly bad schools despite having similar racial demographics as the other three states.

    Massachusetts and Connecticut only have a very slight white majority, yet their schools are slightly better than the ones in Vermont and New Hampshire. Rhode Island is also a "slight white majority" state and has schools that are ok, about as good as Maine.

    I don't care if I live in a town with white schoolkids or not. I just want to live in a town with good schools. A school where kids obey their parents and teachers, study hard, have high expectations for themselves, and avoid juvenile delinquency (sex, drugs, violence, vandalism).

    This graph is useful only to white supremacists whose sole goal is to live in a 100% white ethnocommunity.

    If you’re not a supporter of the Aryan Brotherhood or similar organizations, it’s useless.

    That’s pretty insulting. Neither of those characterizations remotely describes me and I find it interesting.

    Knowledge is good. It is better to understand the world as it is than pretend it is as you would like it to be.

  82. @Achmed E. Newman
    I agree with Twinkie, only more so, on his first comment. "Majority Minority" is one of the most fucked-up terms I've ever heard. (I know you don't make all the maps, A.E., so this is not directed at you.) The legend could have said simple "minority white" or "whites in minority" for those states.

    Additionally, if you have a state with 70% black in some realm, then I've seen this written as "majority minority" too. That's the most asinine thing. In math terms, that's one of those dilemmas that could kill a computer, as with HAL in 2001. For people, cognitive dissonance does similar damage, but we can't always see it from the outside.

    I think the point is to make blacks always the victims, as they are still that poor minority, even if, as with Detroit, they are 90% of the whole damn city.

    OK, carry on.

    I did make this map!

    I used “majority-minority” because that’s more-or-less the standard nomenclature.

  83. @ariel
    fertility rate for both black and hispanics is below replacement rate , asian and native american women even have lower fertility than whites

    Increasingly nobody in the developed world, save for the (purpose-driven) religious, wants to leave a living legacy. It’s one of the reasons I find hatred for other groups, especially those without power, off-putting.

    1) Repatriate non-citizens
    2) Enact a moratorium on immigration so we can arrest the trend of increasing social discord
    3) Get native fertility back to at least replacement

    Do these things, America survives. They can be done fairly and without unnecessary rancor. But the hour is getting late.

    • Agree: Dissident, Twinkie
  84. @Dissident

    The public-school risk factors, at 10%, are, I think: (1) Placating policies; (2) Bullying; (3) Reduced student performance by emulation of mediocre-but-cool students.
     
    Re: bullying, don't the risks go beyond it, even to those of lethal violence?

    Also, what about all the pernicious indoctrination at public schools-- no matter how White?

    JackOH:


    By the 1990s I started thinking the America I live in ain’t the one I thought I was living in, ain’t the one I signed up for.
     
    Anyone sufficiently familiar with the late NY radio personality Bob Grant will know exactly why that line reminded me of him.

    ...I find myself wondering whose country I'm living-in, because it isn't mine anymore!

    Sam Coulton:


    looking to shift the blame on to another group for their the consequences of their own poor judgment in life.
     
    The influx of immigration certainly can't be helping (and is certainly creating and adding-to other problems). One might wonder why you apparently feel a need to shift blame away from immigration.

    Wolverine:


    I do wonder if a more polished and articulate politician can combine the policies of Trump with the style of a Traditional Republican can win both groups. Jeff Sessions?
     
    Isn't Sessions a bit old at this point to run for office again?

    Also, while he's clearly been one of the best against Invite the World folly, doesn't his record on Invade the World leave much to be desired?

    Anonymous[217]:

    >"white supremacists"
    >"Aryan Brotherhood"

    You'd have more credibility if not for your first two sentences.

    @Oblivionrecurs:
    For the future, when posting that many images, using the "MORE" tag after the first few or so would be courteous.

    Agree re: the graphics dump. Lots of interesting information in there, and I know you’re intention isn’t to spam, but that is a lot to leave ‘above the fold’.

  85. @Annatar
    Demographics is important but voting patterns also matter, Texas is only 42% white yet Republicans still dominate the state and if there was any erosion in Republican margins in 2018 it was due to college whites in Houston and Dallas abandoning the Republican party.

    It will take decades for Texas to flip based off demographic change, Trump lost Hispanic voters by 27% in 2016 in Texas and won the state by 810,000 votes. At that margin there will need to be 3 million extra Hispanic voters to flip the state. Hispanic voters made up 24% of the 9 million voters in 2016 according to the exit polls or 2.2 million in raw numbers. It will take 40 years for the number of Hispanic voters to rise by 135% from 2.2 million to 5.2 million. What will flip Texas within a decade is if Republicans can't stop the bleeding with college whites.

    In AZ in 2018, Mcsally did 3% better with non-whites than Trump, her issue is she ran 11% worse with whites and lost as a result.

    https://medium.com/@CatalistAnalytics/what-happened-in-the-arizona-senate-election-4dd1ad0bb228


    Demographic change is very important but the 2018 results show what happens when whites begin to abandon the GOP. I think Trump will be able to restore those margins with white voters though as he will run more of a populist campaign then Republicans did in 2018.

    Texas is literally the only state in the country where whites vote more Republican than non-whites vote Democrat, and outside the Deep South, nowhere do whites vote as heavily Republican as white Texans do. It’s the lone star state indeed!

  86. @Charles Pewitt

    Though the Great Replacement is a conspiracy theory only those wishing to be hurled into the void dare discuss, it is hard not to notice that in all of the once reliably red states now in the process of becoming blue–Texas, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina–the next generation is majority non-white. It’s almost as though Democrats cannot lose in states where most of the population is not white.

     

    The use of the phrase GREAT REPLACEMENT, to describe the demographic effects of nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration, isn't strong enough.

    To get people's attention and interest, you have to use WHITE GENOCIDE.

    Tweet from 2015:

    https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/651893290636345344?s=20

    If anything, it’s white suicide. White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don’t want to. Or perhaps more accurately, what they want to happen is just what is happening.

    The greatest line of Trump’s presidency IMO was from his speech in Poland where he noted that the most important question of the 21st century is whether or not the West has the will to survive. Nobody is killing us, at least not in numbers significant enough to make a difference. We’re killing ourselves and those of us who aren’t, are not paying the gift of life forward enough.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational

    White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don’t want to.
     
    This is emphatically NOT TRUE.  Whites have voted many times to e.g. expel illegal aliens and deny them public benefits.  EVERY TIME they have been overruled by un-elected kritarchs or sold out by perfidious pols.  We MAY be seeing a reversal of this with the new composition of SCOTUS, but it's not enough and subject to reversal by subsequent administrations.

    It doesn't matter whether the traitors are bought, blackmailed or ideologues.  They have to be removed from the decision process.  If they won't recuse themselves, well....
    , @Charles Pewitt

    If anything, it’s white suicide. White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don’t want to. Or perhaps more accurately, what they want to happen is just what is happening.

     

    I have the answer for young White Christians to help them understand why their elders fumbled the ball on White Genocide and mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem and nation-wrecking demographic displacement of European Christians in European Christian nations.

    I wrote this in September of 2018:

    Electronic technology in the form of monetary policy is the reason why this current multi-decade mass immigration invasion phase has taken place without any appreciable pushback from the populace of the invaded nations.

    How so?

    Generations of European Christians have been bought off with massive amounts of private and government debt. This debt has been conjured up out of thin air by the globalized central banks.

    There is a globalizer plot afoot to use monetary policy in combination with mass immigration to destroy and degrade national sovereignty and ethnic integrity in European Christian nations.

    White Americans born before the year 1965 have been bought off by high asset prices to keep their greedy mouths shut about the nation-wrecking mass immigration invasion going on in their nations. Monetary policy has created a series of asset bubbles that satiate the greed of the Mammonite Whites while immigration policy has been used to keep wages low and housing prices high.

    Honest historians will look back on the period before Civil War II and marvel at the White treasonites born before 1965 who allowed their civilization to be flooded with non-European foreigners.

    This current asset bubble will pop soon. It might have started to pop 5 minutes ago.

    If the economy is “booming” as the baby boomer mass immigration fanatic, Mike Pence, says, then why not raise the federal funds rate to the normal level of 6 percent?

    Mike “Jennifer Granholm Nose” Pence is an irritating baby boomer bastard who pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens.

    Mike Pence is typical of the baby boomer slobs who have been bought off by monetary policy to keep their mouths shut about the mass immigration currently destroying European Christian civilization in the United States.
  87. @Medvedev
    Just like Jews in Palestine lost their homeland for 2000 years with nowhere to go, European Whites are going to lose North America and Europe with nowhere to go.

    The Jews in Palestine today have learned from their historical mistakes.

  88. @Anon
    The linked page doesn't seem to supply the data necessary to make that map. I am getting a single page, "2019 Math State Snapshot Report." Is that the right link? Are there more pages that my browser cannot access?

    That link is for the entire country, “np”:

    https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2019/pdf/2020013np4.pdf

    Change the np to each state’s two-letter postal code abbreviation to get the figures for that state.

    Ie, for Texas:

    https://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/subject/publications/stt2019/pdf/2020013tx4.pdf

  89. @Anonymous
    This graph is useful only to white supremacists whose sole goal is to live in a 100% white ethnocommunity.

    If you're not a supporter of the Aryan Brotherhood or similar organizations, it's useless.

    Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine tend to have ok or good schools. Relatively few are bad. Meanwhile, West Virginia has mostly bad schools despite having similar racial demographics as the other three states.

    Massachusetts and Connecticut only have a very slight white majority, yet their schools are slightly better than the ones in Vermont and New Hampshire. Rhode Island is also a "slight white majority" state and has schools that are ok, about as good as Maine.

    I don't care if I live in a town with white schoolkids or not. I just want to live in a town with good schools. A school where kids obey their parents and teachers, study hard, have high expectations for themselves, and avoid juvenile delinquency (sex, drugs, violence, vandalism).

    A school where kids obey their parents and teachers, study hard, have high expectations for themselves, and avoid juvenile delinquency (sex, drugs, violence, vandalism).

    Have you considered moving to Seoul, Korea?*

    *Aka, Exam Hell.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It sounds a lot better than Detroit or anywhere in West Virginia.
  90. @216

    gentrification
     
    Didn't fully emerge as a trend until the 2000s. Even while crime was declining during the 1990s, the cities were still considerably more violent than they are today. What made gentrification possible was increased credentialism, and the large scale exit of manufacturing from loft spaces that subsequently found new uses. The tech industry accelerated this trend in the 2010s.

    It's hard to think of a city where the "white working class vote" is still a major influence in municipal politics. Both Portlands?

    ---

    Addendum to earlier post

    Israeli conscription is not 2 years, it is actually 3 years for many (male) conscripts. It is two years for women. Reserve duty appears considerably truncated from what IDF Boomers and GenX did.

    Contrast with ROK, where men serve two years and women aren't drafted. Taiwan conscripts men for 1 year. Singapore conscripts for 2 years.

    The latter three have absymal fertility rates (1), contrasted with similarly rich Japan which doesn't have a draft yet has higher fertility (1.5).

    If people here have a background in any of these four countries, has there been discussion on female conscription? Would this change the marriage marketplace? Or is Zionism sui generis? Do Arabs lose out or gain from being exempted, and thus able to work or attend university?

    Certain OldLeft like the draft as a means of "social equity", and remaining Boomercon 'Nam vets also might see it as a way to "instill patriotism". FWIW, despite the worship of Israel in Con Inc, I've never heard anyone suggest that copying the IDF model of conscription and routine reserve call up would "improve social cohesion". Too collectivist, I guess.

    If people here have a background in any of these four countries, has there been discussion on female conscription?

    Very little to none.

  91. @Sam Coulton

    The influx of immigration certainly can’t be helping (and is certainly creating and adding-to other problems). One might wonder why you apparently feel a need to shift blame away from immigration.
     
    Because there's nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration. The wall will never be built, the American political system has too many hurdles to jump over in the limited time frame tbat is available to stop immigration. Republican politicians have proven themselves utterly worthless for decades on this issue.

    Focusing on immigration, particularly from the perspectice of a voter, is simply a distraction.

    On the other hand, it is much more feasible, expedient, and realistic to simply increase the number of white women birthing children. It requires no supreme court decision. Low birthrate is, unlike immigration enforcement, something all world governments have admitted is one of the most endangering threats of our time, and perhaps of all time.

    When the government has correctly identified a problem stemming from the incompetence and inaction of its citizens, a revolution is almost inevitable in free societies, enabled by the cybernetic feedback loop connecting the citizenry and the government, which compels young men to action, while at the same time laxing enforcement of the law. Mass immigration is, in fact, a consequence of low birthrates, as are reduced prison sentences and shrinking police forces.

    Mass immigration is, in fact, a consequence of low birthrates

    I don’t know how you figure that. Sounds like the “doing the jobs that American won’t do” argument, which has been refuted. I don’t have citations handy but the website of the Center for Immigration Studies would probably be a good place to start. I know that John Derbyshire has addressed in some detail the claim of needing high-skilled immigrants and “guest worker” and H-1B visas, etc. Basically, what it all boils down to is that we have the people but corporations want immigrants because they work for less pay.

    there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration.

    I would not go that far but I am under no illusions either. The situation is not too encouraging but I don’t think giving-up completely on the political front is prudent. It seems to me that there are still some efforts worth pursuing.

    I wish to thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment in detail and in a civil tone.
    ——————-

    I also wish to belatedly thank Achmed E. Newman and our host, Audacious Epigone for their replies to me.

    Let me take this opportunity to also note that I always appreciate civil replies that are made in good faith to my comments. I feel a sense of obligation to acknowledge all such replies but, for various reasons, do not always manage to do so. To anyone I may have missed, please accept my apologies.

    Finally before I conclude this post, I just want to express my appreciation to AE for the post you made featuring, as “comment of the week”, an excerpt from one of the comments on the Gay lobby I had posted. I have seen much in that thread that I would like to respond to and will try to yet manage at least some of it but alas for the inexorable tyranny of the relentless march of time. The time it requires for me to effectively convert my thoughts into coherent, reasonably concise writing of a suitable nature for posting here tends to be excessive and unfortunately far exceeds the limits of my available time. Admittedly, I have been spreading myself too thin lately, biting off more than I chew, as it were.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Oh, there is plenty that could be done to stop mass immigration... it's just not necessarily "legal" or "democratic".

    Fat and lazy whites think if they pull the R lever again all the brown bodies will end up back in mexico.

    Most whites just don't have the balls to do anything.
    , @Audacious Epigone
    The time it requires for me to effectively convert my thoughts into coherent, reasonably concise writing of a suitable nature for posting here tends to be excessive and unfortunately far exceeds the limits of my available time.

    Spend some time on engaging on twitter. That'll fix you right up!

    (I'm emphatically kidding, in case that isn't obvious).
  92. @Twinkie

    A school where kids obey their parents and teachers, study hard, have high expectations for themselves, and avoid juvenile delinquency (sex, drugs, violence, vandalism).
     
    Have you considered moving to Seoul, Korea?*

    *Aka, Exam Hell.

    It sounds a lot better than Detroit or anywhere in West Virginia.

  93. @Dissident

    Mass immigration is, in fact, a consequence of low birthrates
     
    I don't know how you figure that. Sounds like the "doing the jobs that American won't do" argument, which has been refuted. I don't have citations handy but the website of the Center for Immigration Studies would probably be a good place to start. I know that John Derbyshire has addressed in some detail the claim of needing high-skilled immigrants and "guest worker" and H-1B visas, etc. Basically, what it all boils down to is that we have the people but corporations want immigrants because they work for less pay.

    there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration.
     
    I would not go that far but I am under no illusions either. The situation is not too encouraging but I don't think giving-up completely on the political front is prudent. It seems to me that there are still some efforts worth pursuing.

    I wish to thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment in detail and in a civil tone.
    -------------------

    I also wish to belatedly thank Achmed E. Newman and our host, Audacious Epigone for their replies to me.

    Let me take this opportunity to also note that I always appreciate civil replies that are made in good faith to my comments. I feel a sense of obligation to acknowledge all such replies but, for various reasons, do not always manage to do so. To anyone I may have missed, please accept my apologies.

    Finally before I conclude this post, I just want to express my appreciation to AE for the post you made featuring, as "comment of the week", an excerpt from one of the comments on the Gay lobby I had posted. I have seen much in that thread that I would like to respond to and will try to yet manage at least some of it but alas for the inexorable tyranny of the relentless march of time. The time it requires for me to effectively convert my thoughts into coherent, reasonably concise writing of a suitable nature for posting here tends to be excessive and unfortunately far exceeds the limits of my available time. Admittedly, I have been spreading myself too thin lately, biting off more than I chew, as it were.

    Oh, there is plenty that could be done to stop mass immigration… it’s just not necessarily “legal” or “democratic”.

    Fat and lazy whites think if they pull the R lever again all the brown bodies will end up back in mexico.

    Most whites just don’t have the balls to do anything.

  94. @Audacious Epigone
    If anything, it's white suicide. White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don't want to. Or perhaps more accurately, what they want to happen is just what is happening.

    The greatest line of Trump's presidency IMO was from his speech in Poland where he noted that the most important question of the 21st century is whether or not the West has the will to survive. Nobody is killing us, at least not in numbers significant enough to make a difference. We're killing ourselves and those of us who aren't, are not paying the gift of life forward enough.

    White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don’t want to.

    This is emphatically NOT TRUE.  Whites have voted many times to e.g. expel illegal aliens and deny them public benefits.  EVERY TIME they have been overruled by un-elected kritarchs or sold out by perfidious pols.  We MAY be seeing a reversal of this with the new composition of SCOTUS, but it’s not enough and subject to reversal by subsequent administrations.

    It doesn’t matter whether the traitors are bought, blackmailed or ideologues.  They have to be removed from the decision process.  If they won’t recuse themselves, well….

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    In my humble opinion, the "beginning of the end" of freedom of association" for whites occurred with the "civil-rights (for some)" push of the 1950s. "Supreme Court Justice" Thurgood Marshall declared that blacks had to sit next to whites in order to learn, as well as black preference for white dolls being proof of "racism".

    It didn't help when then President Eisenhower sent federal troops to Little Rock Arkansas to enforce an illegal desegregation order on the white residents of Little Rock.

    The 1964 "civil-rights (for some)" act which eviscerated true "freedom of association" and replacing it with government-backed and enforced "public accommodation" sealed the deal.

    President Nixon's "affirmative action" programs and the use of "disparate impact" to push for more racial discrimination against white males further "tightened the screws" on white Americans.

    Presently, there is a push by some college minorities to establish "restricted spaces" (blacks-only dorms) for "people of color" only. Even they realize that the great "civil-rights (for some)" social experiment is coming to an end.

    This is a welcome development, as it restores "freedom of association"-a doctrine that should never have been outlawed. Sadly, there are misguided whites who are totally against such practices.

    , @Audacious Epigone
    Middle Americans have been. White elites (yes, a disproportionate number of whom are Jews but by nothing like a majority of whom are Jews), though, don't want to.
  95. @Audacious Epigone
    If anything, it's white suicide. White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don't want to. Or perhaps more accurately, what they want to happen is just what is happening.

    The greatest line of Trump's presidency IMO was from his speech in Poland where he noted that the most important question of the 21st century is whether or not the West has the will to survive. Nobody is killing us, at least not in numbers significant enough to make a difference. We're killing ourselves and those of us who aren't, are not paying the gift of life forward enough.

    If anything, it’s white suicide. White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don’t want to. Or perhaps more accurately, what they want to happen is just what is happening.

    I have the answer for young White Christians to help them understand why their elders fumbled the ball on White Genocide and mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem and nation-wrecking demographic displacement of European Christians in European Christian nations.

    I wrote this in September of 2018:

    Electronic technology in the form of monetary policy is the reason why this current multi-decade mass immigration invasion phase has taken place without any appreciable pushback from the populace of the invaded nations.

    How so?

    Generations of European Christians have been bought off with massive amounts of private and government debt. This debt has been conjured up out of thin air by the globalized central banks.

    There is a globalizer plot afoot to use monetary policy in combination with mass immigration to destroy and degrade national sovereignty and ethnic integrity in European Christian nations.

    White Americans born before the year 1965 have been bought off by high asset prices to keep their greedy mouths shut about the nation-wrecking mass immigration invasion going on in their nations. Monetary policy has created a series of asset bubbles that satiate the greed of the Mammonite Whites while immigration policy has been used to keep wages low and housing prices high.

    Honest historians will look back on the period before Civil War II and marvel at the White treasonites born before 1965 who allowed their civilization to be flooded with non-European foreigners.

    This current asset bubble will pop soon. It might have started to pop 5 minutes ago.

    If the economy is “booming” as the baby boomer mass immigration fanatic, Mike Pence, says, then why not raise the federal funds rate to the normal level of 6 percent?

    Mike “Jennifer Granholm Nose” Pence is an irritating baby boomer bastard who pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens.

    Mike Pence is typical of the baby boomer slobs who have been bought off by monetary policy to keep their mouths shut about the mass immigration currently destroying European Christian civilization in the United States.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    It's those of the "greatest generation" who foisted the whole misguided "civil-rights" debacle on us "boomers.

    Us "boomers" were forced to live under these misguided laws.

    Qualified white males are now at the bottom, every "person of color", pervert, homosexual, transgender and cross-dresser, and yes, even pedoplile has a higher "protected status than heterosexual white males.

    "Greatest generation": Thanks for NOTHING...
  96. • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    The content of this blog is free for use by any person or organization. The only thing I ask is a link to the original source here at Unz be included (which VDare always includes).
  97. @Mr. Rational

    White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don’t want to.
     
    This is emphatically NOT TRUE.  Whites have voted many times to e.g. expel illegal aliens and deny them public benefits.  EVERY TIME they have been overruled by un-elected kritarchs or sold out by perfidious pols.  We MAY be seeing a reversal of this with the new composition of SCOTUS, but it's not enough and subject to reversal by subsequent administrations.

    It doesn't matter whether the traitors are bought, blackmailed or ideologues.  They have to be removed from the decision process.  If they won't recuse themselves, well....

    In my humble opinion, the “beginning of the end” of freedom of association” for whites occurred with the “civil-rights (for some)” push of the 1950s. “Supreme Court Justice” Thurgood Marshall declared that blacks had to sit next to whites in order to learn, as well as black preference for white dolls being proof of “racism”.

    It didn’t help when then President Eisenhower sent federal troops to Little Rock Arkansas to enforce an illegal desegregation order on the white residents of Little Rock.

    The 1964 “civil-rights (for some)” act which eviscerated true “freedom of association” and replacing it with government-backed and enforced “public accommodation” sealed the deal.

    President Nixon’s “affirmative action” programs and the use of “disparate impact” to push for more racial discrimination against white males further “tightened the screws” on white Americans.

    Presently, there is a push by some college minorities to establish “restricted spaces” (blacks-only dorms) for “people of color” only. Even they realize that the great “civil-rights (for some)” social experiment is coming to an end.

    This is a welcome development, as it restores “freedom of association”-a doctrine that should never have been outlawed. Sadly, there are misguided whites who are totally against such practices.

  98. @Charles Pewitt

    If anything, it’s white suicide. White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don’t want to. Or perhaps more accurately, what they want to happen is just what is happening.

     

    I have the answer for young White Christians to help them understand why their elders fumbled the ball on White Genocide and mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem and nation-wrecking demographic displacement of European Christians in European Christian nations.

    I wrote this in September of 2018:

    Electronic technology in the form of monetary policy is the reason why this current multi-decade mass immigration invasion phase has taken place without any appreciable pushback from the populace of the invaded nations.

    How so?

    Generations of European Christians have been bought off with massive amounts of private and government debt. This debt has been conjured up out of thin air by the globalized central banks.

    There is a globalizer plot afoot to use monetary policy in combination with mass immigration to destroy and degrade national sovereignty and ethnic integrity in European Christian nations.

    White Americans born before the year 1965 have been bought off by high asset prices to keep their greedy mouths shut about the nation-wrecking mass immigration invasion going on in their nations. Monetary policy has created a series of asset bubbles that satiate the greed of the Mammonite Whites while immigration policy has been used to keep wages low and housing prices high.

    Honest historians will look back on the period before Civil War II and marvel at the White treasonites born before 1965 who allowed their civilization to be flooded with non-European foreigners.

    This current asset bubble will pop soon. It might have started to pop 5 minutes ago.

    If the economy is “booming” as the baby boomer mass immigration fanatic, Mike Pence, says, then why not raise the federal funds rate to the normal level of 6 percent?

    Mike “Jennifer Granholm Nose” Pence is an irritating baby boomer bastard who pushes mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens.

    Mike Pence is typical of the baby boomer slobs who have been bought off by monetary policy to keep their mouths shut about the mass immigration currently destroying European Christian civilization in the United States.

    It’s those of the “greatest generation” who foisted the whole misguided “civil-rights” debacle on us “boomers.

    Us “boomers” were forced to live under these misguided laws.

    Qualified white males are now at the bottom, every “person of color”, pervert, homosexual, transgender and cross-dresser, and yes, even pedoplile has a higher “protected status than heterosexual white males.

    “Greatest generation”: Thanks for NOTHING…

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    It’s those of the “greatest generation” who foisted the whole misguided “civil-rights” debacle on us “boomers.

     


    Us “boomers” were forced to live under these misguided laws.

     


    “Greatest generation”: Thanks for NOTHING…

     

    Tom Brokaw is an evil corporate propaganda whore who flogged that "Greatest Generation" propaganda crud to sell books and to sell globalization and mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and the like. Brokaw was really trying to keep the evil generation well-fed on smug platitudes while evil globalizers and plutocrats were attaacking and destroying the historic American nation.

    Brokaw kept the evil generation occupied with ill-earned praise while the USA was being destroyed by invading foreigners.

    I wrote this in 2017:

    The baby boomers are not to blame for the nation-wrecking 1965 Immigration Act, you are right on that. The baby boomers were not the dumb bastards that got the American Empire bogged down in Vietnam either.

    It was the generations born before 1924 that got the disastrous 1965 Immigration Act passed into law. LBJ was born in 1908. All the way with LBJ — right off the mass immigration invasion cliff.

    Brokaw’s “Greatest Generation” crap is just a smokescreen to cover up all the evil horseshit done by people like Tom Brokaw and his ilk. “Greatest Generation” of nation wreckers is more like it.

    I wrote this in 2017:

    Greatest Generation? I don’t call them the “Greatest Generation.” Ronald Reagan and the rest of the “Greatest Generation” politicians were a bunch of bought off bastards who put the American Empire on the road to ruin with their trade, monetary, immigration and foreign policies.

    Tom Brokaw is the lousy corporate propaganda whore who was allowed to go on and on about the so-called “Greatest Generation” in the mass media. I would call them the greatest generation of nation-wreckers ever seen before on planet earth. It was the so-called “Greatest Generation” that killed about 60,000 Americans in Vietnam in a war that should never have been fought.

    It seems like the baby boomers saw the bad policies pushed by the so-called “Greatest Generation” and, in a marijuana-induced stupor, they decided to top them with crummy policies of their own. Both generations used financialization to enrich themselves and set up future generations with a millstone of unpayable government debt. To hell with both of them.

    The Immigration Act of 1990, pushed by Teddy Kennedy and George HW Bush, was a disaster enacted into law close on the heels of Reagan’s 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Most of us remember Bushy Boy #1 talking about the glories of open borders mass immigration and open borders free trade. Bushy Boy #1 was a bullshit artist who knew damn well that open borders mass immigration and open borders free trade would destroy the living standards of Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs). Bushy Boy #1 was an enemy to the ordinary patriotic people of the United States.
  99. This is complete nonsense: Oklahoma is 46% Hispanic. Oklahoma has about 30% Indians. So this implies Asians and Caucasians are less than 25% of the population. That is just utter nonsense. This article is a lie.

  100. @anarchyst
    It's those of the "greatest generation" who foisted the whole misguided "civil-rights" debacle on us "boomers.

    Us "boomers" were forced to live under these misguided laws.

    Qualified white males are now at the bottom, every "person of color", pervert, homosexual, transgender and cross-dresser, and yes, even pedoplile has a higher "protected status than heterosexual white males.

    "Greatest generation": Thanks for NOTHING...

    It’s those of the “greatest generation” who foisted the whole misguided “civil-rights” debacle on us “boomers.

    Us “boomers” were forced to live under these misguided laws.

    “Greatest generation”: Thanks for NOTHING…

    Tom Brokaw is an evil corporate propaganda whore who flogged that “Greatest Generation” propaganda crud to sell books and to sell globalization and mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and the like. Brokaw was really trying to keep the evil generation well-fed on smug platitudes while evil globalizers and plutocrats were attaacking and destroying the historic American nation.

    Brokaw kept the evil generation occupied with ill-earned praise while the USA was being destroyed by invading foreigners.

    I wrote this in 2017:

    The baby boomers are not to blame for the nation-wrecking 1965 Immigration Act, you are right on that. The baby boomers were not the dumb bastards that got the American Empire bogged down in Vietnam either.

    It was the generations born before 1924 that got the disastrous 1965 Immigration Act passed into law. LBJ was born in 1908. All the way with LBJ — right off the mass immigration invasion cliff.

    Brokaw’s “Greatest Generation” crap is just a smokescreen to cover up all the evil horseshit done by people like Tom Brokaw and his ilk. “Greatest Generation” of nation wreckers is more like it.

    I wrote this in 2017:

    Greatest Generation? I don’t call them the “Greatest Generation.” Ronald Reagan and the rest of the “Greatest Generation” politicians were a bunch of bought off bastards who put the American Empire on the road to ruin with their trade, monetary, immigration and foreign policies.

    Tom Brokaw is the lousy corporate propaganda whore who was allowed to go on and on about the so-called “Greatest Generation” in the mass media. I would call them the greatest generation of nation-wreckers ever seen before on planet earth. It was the so-called “Greatest Generation” that killed about 60,000 Americans in Vietnam in a war that should never have been fought.

    It seems like the baby boomers saw the bad policies pushed by the so-called “Greatest Generation” and, in a marijuana-induced stupor, they decided to top them with crummy policies of their own. Both generations used financialization to enrich themselves and set up future generations with a millstone of unpayable government debt. To hell with both of them.

    The Immigration Act of 1990, pushed by Teddy Kennedy and George HW Bush, was a disaster enacted into law close on the heels of Reagan’s 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Most of us remember Bushy Boy #1 talking about the glories of open borders mass immigration and open borders free trade. Bushy Boy #1 was a bullshit artist who knew damn well that open borders mass immigration and open borders free trade would destroy the living standards of Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs). Bushy Boy #1 was an enemy to the ordinary patriotic people of the United States.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    I must have been one of the few "boomers" that did not subscribe to the "leviathan superstate" expansion of the united States of America in the 1960s.

    I was politically astute at the time, while being "too young to vote".
    When Lyndon Johnson got his 10% income tax surcharge passed, I was still totally against this increases in taxation which was put in place to fund the Vietnam war.

    I observed the fallacies of the so-called "civil-rights" programs and KNEW that it would destroy the minorities that it purported to "protect" and would result in the dispossession of heterosexual white males. Sending federal troops to enforce desegregation orders against whites was "the beginning of the end".

    I KNEW that the 1965 "Hart-Celler" immigration bill was poison right from the start.

    Yes, "the greatest generation" was NOT...
  101. @Charles Pewitt

    It’s those of the “greatest generation” who foisted the whole misguided “civil-rights” debacle on us “boomers.

     


    Us “boomers” were forced to live under these misguided laws.

     


    “Greatest generation”: Thanks for NOTHING…

     

    Tom Brokaw is an evil corporate propaganda whore who flogged that "Greatest Generation" propaganda crud to sell books and to sell globalization and mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and the like. Brokaw was really trying to keep the evil generation well-fed on smug platitudes while evil globalizers and plutocrats were attaacking and destroying the historic American nation.

    Brokaw kept the evil generation occupied with ill-earned praise while the USA was being destroyed by invading foreigners.

    I wrote this in 2017:

    The baby boomers are not to blame for the nation-wrecking 1965 Immigration Act, you are right on that. The baby boomers were not the dumb bastards that got the American Empire bogged down in Vietnam either.

    It was the generations born before 1924 that got the disastrous 1965 Immigration Act passed into law. LBJ was born in 1908. All the way with LBJ — right off the mass immigration invasion cliff.

    Brokaw’s “Greatest Generation” crap is just a smokescreen to cover up all the evil horseshit done by people like Tom Brokaw and his ilk. “Greatest Generation” of nation wreckers is more like it.

    I wrote this in 2017:

    Greatest Generation? I don’t call them the “Greatest Generation.” Ronald Reagan and the rest of the “Greatest Generation” politicians were a bunch of bought off bastards who put the American Empire on the road to ruin with their trade, monetary, immigration and foreign policies.

    Tom Brokaw is the lousy corporate propaganda whore who was allowed to go on and on about the so-called “Greatest Generation” in the mass media. I would call them the greatest generation of nation-wreckers ever seen before on planet earth. It was the so-called “Greatest Generation” that killed about 60,000 Americans in Vietnam in a war that should never have been fought.

    It seems like the baby boomers saw the bad policies pushed by the so-called “Greatest Generation” and, in a marijuana-induced stupor, they decided to top them with crummy policies of their own. Both generations used financialization to enrich themselves and set up future generations with a millstone of unpayable government debt. To hell with both of them.

    The Immigration Act of 1990, pushed by Teddy Kennedy and George HW Bush, was a disaster enacted into law close on the heels of Reagan’s 1986 amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Most of us remember Bushy Boy #1 talking about the glories of open borders mass immigration and open borders free trade. Bushy Boy #1 was a bullshit artist who knew damn well that open borders mass immigration and open borders free trade would destroy the living standards of Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs). Bushy Boy #1 was an enemy to the ordinary patriotic people of the United States.

    I must have been one of the few “boomers” that did not subscribe to the “leviathan superstate” expansion of the united States of America in the 1960s.

    I was politically astute at the time, while being “too young to vote”.
    When Lyndon Johnson got his 10% income tax surcharge passed, I was still totally against this increases in taxation which was put in place to fund the Vietnam war.

    I observed the fallacies of the so-called “civil-rights” programs and KNEW that it would destroy the minorities that it purported to “protect” and would result in the dispossession of heterosexual white males. Sending federal troops to enforce desegregation orders against whites was “the beginning of the end”.

    I KNEW that the 1965 “Hart-Celler” immigration bill was poison right from the start.

    Yes, “the greatest generation” was NOT…

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    When Lyndon Johnson got his 10% income tax surcharge passed, I was still totally against this increases in taxation which was put in place to fund the Vietnam war.

     


    I KNEW that the 1965 “Hart-Celler” immigration bill was poison right from the start.

     


    I observed the fallacies of the so-called “civil-rights” programs and KNEW that it would destroy the minorities that it purported to “protect” and would result in the dispossession of heterosexual white males. Sending federal troops to enforce desegregation orders against whites was “the beginning of the end”.

     

    That Texas dirtbag Lyndon Baines Johnson was an evil and immoral nation-wrecking treasonite.
  102. @anarchyst
    I must have been one of the few "boomers" that did not subscribe to the "leviathan superstate" expansion of the united States of America in the 1960s.

    I was politically astute at the time, while being "too young to vote".
    When Lyndon Johnson got his 10% income tax surcharge passed, I was still totally against this increases in taxation which was put in place to fund the Vietnam war.

    I observed the fallacies of the so-called "civil-rights" programs and KNEW that it would destroy the minorities that it purported to "protect" and would result in the dispossession of heterosexual white males. Sending federal troops to enforce desegregation orders against whites was "the beginning of the end".

    I KNEW that the 1965 "Hart-Celler" immigration bill was poison right from the start.

    Yes, "the greatest generation" was NOT...

    When Lyndon Johnson got his 10% income tax surcharge passed, I was still totally against this increases in taxation which was put in place to fund the Vietnam war.

    I KNEW that the 1965 “Hart-Celler” immigration bill was poison right from the start.

    I observed the fallacies of the so-called “civil-rights” programs and KNEW that it would destroy the minorities that it purported to “protect” and would result in the dispossession of heterosexual white males. Sending federal troops to enforce desegregation orders against whites was “the beginning of the end”.

    That Texas dirtbag Lyndon Baines Johnson was an evil and immoral nation-wrecking treasonite.

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    Johnson's greatest criminal "act" was his participation in the deliberate israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on 8 June, 1967.

    Johnson initially REFUSED to send help for the stricken ship as he wanted "all hands dead" in order to justify an israeli-American "war" against Egypt. You see, Egypt was supposed to be blamed for the attack.

    Johnson was forced to send help when a brave sailor reconnected an antenna and got word out to the 6th fleet. He initially recalled aircraft that were sent out to help the stricken ship but was forced to send help when the 6th fleet got word of the attack.

    Johnson was a "crypto-jew" who put israel's interests over that of the united States of America.

    Another "tidbit" that historians have attempted to cover up was that the israeli "six-day-war" was a "pre-emptive strike" against Egypt, NOT a response to an Arab attack. The USS Liberty (GTR-5) was privy to various israeli massacres of Arab civilians.

    Senator John McCain's admiral "daddy" participated in the cover-up of this "act of war" against the united States of America and attempted to define it as a case of "mistaken identity. The surviving crew members of the Liberty have stated otherwise; that the attack was deliberate. The israelis even strafed the lifeboats, which is an egregious violation of international law.

    Both Johnson and McNamara should have been indicted, tried and convicted of TREASON with appropriate sentences carried out.
  103. @Charles Pewitt

    When Lyndon Johnson got his 10% income tax surcharge passed, I was still totally against this increases in taxation which was put in place to fund the Vietnam war.

     


    I KNEW that the 1965 “Hart-Celler” immigration bill was poison right from the start.

     


    I observed the fallacies of the so-called “civil-rights” programs and KNEW that it would destroy the minorities that it purported to “protect” and would result in the dispossession of heterosexual white males. Sending federal troops to enforce desegregation orders against whites was “the beginning of the end”.

     

    That Texas dirtbag Lyndon Baines Johnson was an evil and immoral nation-wrecking treasonite.

    Johnson’s greatest criminal “act” was his participation in the deliberate israeli attack on the USS Liberty (GTR-5) on 8 June, 1967.

    Johnson initially REFUSED to send help for the stricken ship as he wanted “all hands dead” in order to justify an israeli-American “war” against Egypt. You see, Egypt was supposed to be blamed for the attack.

    Johnson was forced to send help when a brave sailor reconnected an antenna and got word out to the 6th fleet. He initially recalled aircraft that were sent out to help the stricken ship but was forced to send help when the 6th fleet got word of the attack.

    Johnson was a “crypto-jew” who put israel’s interests over that of the united States of America.

    Another “tidbit” that historians have attempted to cover up was that the israeli “six-day-war” was a “pre-emptive strike” against Egypt, NOT a response to an Arab attack. The USS Liberty (GTR-5) was privy to various israeli massacres of Arab civilians.

    Senator John McCain’s admiral “daddy” participated in the cover-up of this “act of war” against the united States of America and attempted to define it as a case of “mistaken identity. The surviving crew members of the Liberty have stated otherwise; that the attack was deliberate. The israelis even strafed the lifeboats, which is an egregious violation of international law.

    Both Johnson and McNamara should have been indicted, tried and convicted of TREASON with appropriate sentences carried out.

  104. @Dissident

    Mass immigration is, in fact, a consequence of low birthrates
     
    I don't know how you figure that. Sounds like the "doing the jobs that American won't do" argument, which has been refuted. I don't have citations handy but the website of the Center for Immigration Studies would probably be a good place to start. I know that John Derbyshire has addressed in some detail the claim of needing high-skilled immigrants and "guest worker" and H-1B visas, etc. Basically, what it all boils down to is that we have the people but corporations want immigrants because they work for less pay.

    there’s nothing that can be done politically to stop immigration.
     
    I would not go that far but I am under no illusions either. The situation is not too encouraging but I don't think giving-up completely on the political front is prudent. It seems to me that there are still some efforts worth pursuing.

    I wish to thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment in detail and in a civil tone.
    -------------------

    I also wish to belatedly thank Achmed E. Newman and our host, Audacious Epigone for their replies to me.

    Let me take this opportunity to also note that I always appreciate civil replies that are made in good faith to my comments. I feel a sense of obligation to acknowledge all such replies but, for various reasons, do not always manage to do so. To anyone I may have missed, please accept my apologies.

    Finally before I conclude this post, I just want to express my appreciation to AE for the post you made featuring, as "comment of the week", an excerpt from one of the comments on the Gay lobby I had posted. I have seen much in that thread that I would like to respond to and will try to yet manage at least some of it but alas for the inexorable tyranny of the relentless march of time. The time it requires for me to effectively convert my thoughts into coherent, reasonably concise writing of a suitable nature for posting here tends to be excessive and unfortunately far exceeds the limits of my available time. Admittedly, I have been spreading myself too thin lately, biting off more than I chew, as it were.

    The time it requires for me to effectively convert my thoughts into coherent, reasonably concise writing of a suitable nature for posting here tends to be excessive and unfortunately far exceeds the limits of my available time.

    Spend some time on engaging on twitter. That’ll fix you right up!

    (I’m emphatically kidding, in case that isn’t obvious).

  105. @Mr. Rational

    White Americans could easily control what happens to America if they wanted to. They don’t want to.
     
    This is emphatically NOT TRUE.  Whites have voted many times to e.g. expel illegal aliens and deny them public benefits.  EVERY TIME they have been overruled by un-elected kritarchs or sold out by perfidious pols.  We MAY be seeing a reversal of this with the new composition of SCOTUS, but it's not enough and subject to reversal by subsequent administrations.

    It doesn't matter whether the traitors are bought, blackmailed or ideologues.  They have to be removed from the decision process.  If they won't recuse themselves, well....

    Middle Americans have been. White elites (yes, a disproportionate number of whom are Jews but by nothing like a majority of whom are Jews), though, don’t want to.

  106. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/thespandrell/status/1199144296575717376?s=20

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    The content of this blog is free for use by any person or organization. The only thing I ask is a link to the original source here at Unz be included (which VDare always includes).

     

    OKAY

    What does Audacious Epigone think of the New York Times's coverage of Pete Buttigieg's obvious play to get the Greedy White Geezer Democrat(GWGD) vote in Iowa and New Hampshire by pandering and promising all kinds of government goodies for the geezers?

    I think this shady guy from Indiana, Buttigieg, is doing the same thing that John Kasich did, except with different voter blocs. John Kasich made an obvious political play for greedy globalizer upper middle class Republicans and independents and greedy geezer Republicans in the 2016 New Hampshire presidential primary. Kasich's whole message was I'll protect your greedy government scams from that madman Trump and plenty of greedy slobs in New Hampshire went for it.

    Basically, what Buttigieg is doing is telling the Greedy White Geezer Democrats in Iowa and New Hampshire that he will protect their current scams and increase the scams in their favor and that he will not upset the government gravy train applecart that sustains many Greedy White Geezer Democrats in luxury never before seen in the elderly.

    This horrible fraud from Indiana is biting into Biden's portion of the Greedy White Geezer Democrat voter bloc and the greed and civilizationally-destructive insatiable avarice of the geezers might boost Buttigieg to victory in Iowa or New Hampshire or both.

    The beautiful Black ladies in the Democrat Party primary will have their say in South Carolina, however, and the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY of Joe Biden will electorally smash Buttigieg's flash in the pan campaign courtesy of the Greedy White Geezer Democrats in Iowa and New Hampshire.

    Any Democrat Party presidential candidate but Bernie Sanders will see a massive surge in voter support for the Green Party. Hillary Clinton has already talked about it.

    Political fracturing in the USA is reminiscent of the political fracturing before the Civil War.

    Civil War II should be avoided by sovereign debt secessionism of the young White Core Americans and by mass sectionalization and secessionism in jurisdictions.

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1200092008284672001

    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1197582987245817857
  107. @Audacious Epigone
    The content of this blog is free for use by any person or organization. The only thing I ask is a link to the original source here at Unz be included (which VDare always includes).

    The content of this blog is free for use by any person or organization. The only thing I ask is a link to the original source here at Unz be included (which VDare always includes).

    OKAY

    What does Audacious Epigone think of the New York Times’s coverage of Pete Buttigieg’s obvious play to get the Greedy White Geezer Democrat(GWGD) vote in Iowa and New Hampshire by pandering and promising all kinds of government goodies for the geezers?

    I think this shady guy from Indiana, Buttigieg, is doing the same thing that John Kasich did, except with different voter blocs. John Kasich made an obvious political play for greedy globalizer upper middle class Republicans and independents and greedy geezer Republicans in the 2016 New Hampshire presidential primary. Kasich’s whole message was I’ll protect your greedy government scams from that madman Trump and plenty of greedy slobs in New Hampshire went for it.

    Basically, what Buttigieg is doing is telling the Greedy White Geezer Democrats in Iowa and New Hampshire that he will protect their current scams and increase the scams in their favor and that he will not upset the government gravy train applecart that sustains many Greedy White Geezer Democrats in luxury never before seen in the elderly.

    This horrible fraud from Indiana is biting into Biden’s portion of the Greedy White Geezer Democrat voter bloc and the greed and civilizationally-destructive insatiable avarice of the geezers might boost Buttigieg to victory in Iowa or New Hampshire or both.

    The beautiful Black ladies in the Democrat Party primary will have their say in South Carolina, however, and the AUNT JEMIMA STRATEGY of Joe Biden will electorally smash Buttigieg’s flash in the pan campaign courtesy of the Greedy White Geezer Democrats in Iowa and New Hampshire.

    Any Democrat Party presidential candidate but Bernie Sanders will see a massive surge in voter support for the Green Party. Hillary Clinton has already talked about it.

    Political fracturing in the USA is reminiscent of the political fracturing before the Civil War.

    Civil War II should be avoided by sovereign debt secessionism of the young White Core Americans and by mass sectionalization and secessionism in jurisdictions.

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