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The following graphs show partisan affiliation among native-born Americans and among immigrants from 2000 through 2018:

The first thing to do when you’re in a hole is to stop digging. They don’t call the GOP the “stupid party” for no reason.

GSS variables used: BORN, PARTYID(0-2)(3)(4-6)(7), YEAR(2000-2018)

 
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  1. Wow. Immigrants are less than 50% Democrat! The hype has all of them blue. And look at all those independents. Independents have been known to vote Orange.

  2. This is an argument in favour of immigration. The newbies are much more likely to work out that both major parties suck.

    • Replies: @Ash Williams

    This is an argument in favour of immigration. The newbies are much more likely to work out that both major parties suck.
     
    Except it's not. It shows more vote Democrat, and way more are "independent", which just means no party affiliation. The immigrant "independent" majority vote left-Socialist.
  3. @Nodwink
    This is an argument in favour of immigration. The newbies are much more likely to work out that both major parties suck.

    This is an argument in favour of immigration. The newbies are much more likely to work out that both major parties suck.

    Except it’s not. It shows more vote Democrat, and way more are “independent”, which just means no party affiliation. The immigrant “independent” majority vote left-Socialist.

    • Replies: @songbird
    Agreed. Not a lot of these "independent" immigrants would vote for Perot or Buchanan on the Reform ticket. They would vote for the Green Party candidate, when they didn't vote D. And mostly they would still vote D.
  4. Laugh.

    While I don’t think that most immigrant populations embrace the far off the map issues about gender realities. I do think they will vote along the lines of the party or organization who supports an ethos that makes their entry and path easier.

    And that explains one reason that the republican party has become increasingly — like democrats — and more populist — globalization for open borders is just the flip side of globalization got open markets – WTO style. because immigrants arrive from places where the government role is larger and expected, it’s safe to say they lean democratic.

    this poll provides a slighty more nuanced data set.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/05/15/facts-about-us-political-independents/

  5. The immigration issue is a prime example of what cheap dates the GOP has been for the chamber of commerce – they should have known for decades that mass immigration was intended to ensure their political base would be relegated to rump status, but because they couldn’t say ‘no’ to campaign money they have promoted the ‘immigrants are natural conservatives’ hogwash while ensuring their future political irrelevance.

    • Replies: @216
    A lot of Conservative Inc just want to one day become Neoliberal Inc, and have a DSA/Dem two party system rather than Dem/GOP.
  6. The foreigners are going to have to go back.

    In 1978, the population of the USA was 220 million. The patriotic goal must be to get the population back to 220 million from the current population of 330 million or more.

    Obviously, tens of millions of Whites will have to be shipped out or barged out on scows to get back to the 220 million population figure from 1978.

    Illegal alien invaders will go en masse and that will give us a test case to see how different methods of removal function.

    The Republican Party will have to be replaced with the new political party called WHITE CORE AMERICA.

    Environmentally-friendly immigrant removals will be wonderful to make sure that young White Core Americans have an ability to enjoy AFFORDABLE FAMILY FORMATION.

    Government debt will be repudiated and the newly-nationalized Federal Reserve Bank will be used to advance the interests of the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    All members of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire will be forcibly removed from the USA and they will not be allowed to visit nor enter any other European Christian nation. The JEW/WASP ruling class can go and stay in Israel or sub-Saharan Africa.

    I remember the USA in 1978 when it had a population of 220 million, and it was sort of crowded then, and it is rack em and stack em now.

    England is one of the most densely populated nations in Europe or near Europe and that filthy whore Boris Johnson will continue to flood England with mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    The treasonous ruling classes in England and the USA use monetary policy and demography and mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration to pauperize regular citizens while allowing the globalizer plutocrats to clam rake in the loot like bastards.

  7. @Ash Williams

    This is an argument in favour of immigration. The newbies are much more likely to work out that both major parties suck.
     
    Except it's not. It shows more vote Democrat, and way more are "independent", which just means no party affiliation. The immigrant "independent" majority vote left-Socialist.

    Agreed. Not a lot of these “independent” immigrants would vote for Perot or Buchanan on the Reform ticket. They would vote for the Green Party candidate, when they didn’t vote D. And mostly they would still vote D.

  8. The Republican Party is EVIL and IMMORAL and it must be destroyed.

    The Republican Party pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    The Republican Party pushes amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    The new political party called White Core America will replace the evil and immoral Republican Party.

    White Core America Immigration Pledge:

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!

  9. @Arclight
    The immigration issue is a prime example of what cheap dates the GOP has been for the chamber of commerce - they should have known for decades that mass immigration was intended to ensure their political base would be relegated to rump status, but because they couldn't say 'no' to campaign money they have promoted the 'immigrants are natural conservatives' hogwash while ensuring their future political irrelevance.

    A lot of Conservative Inc just want to one day become Neoliberal Inc, and have a DSA/Dem two party system rather than Dem/GOP.

  10. The first thing to do when you’re in a hole is to stop digging. They don’t call the GOP the “stupid party” for no reason.

    I’d thought for a long time that that stupid party/evil party and bipartisanship line was pretty damn clever. I now think it is wrong. It’s not stupidity that has the Red-squad of The Party failing to stop the madness. Behind the political infotainment, this is the way the elites want it to go down. Both squads of The Party are evil.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    Hard to argue with.
  11. lol

    https://twitter.com/StephanieHazen/status/1211118603170390016

    Even people who should know better are stuck in a perma-1980s. The idea that Poland, a nation with a TFR of 1.5 (lower than White Americans) is going to provide a mass emigration to realign US politics is laughable.

    The idea with HK even more so, certainly a lot of these people do want to leave, but they are as urban as it gets, and quite unlikely to replicate Miami Cubans. Living in the US actually might be a downgrade in living standards for many.

    There should be an easy way of explaining this: Amnesty makes it “legal”.

    The issue is not “illegal” it is “mass”.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Hell, even the Europeans from western Europe that have trickled in over the years still, lean heavily Socialist. At least they make their own way, don't screw up the schools and hospitals, and don't ruin whole neighborhoods. I'd go for a 1:1 trade of Polish (say, women, just for example) immigrants with Somalians who would be sent home or to Poland in return. Really, I don't care where they end up.
    , @LoutishAngloQuebecker
    Lol.

    Love how those fucking losers won't even mention the one demographic group that might actually make sense: white south African boers.

    Hong Kong people are just like Chinese when they get to the west, blowing all their money, and other than bitching don't give a shit about hk. Also the entire america concept of "freedom" is totally a western euro thing too.
    , @EldnahYm
    That Rogan O'Handley clown is an IRA supporting Irish Catholic who likes to whine about how badly Oliver Cromwell treated the Irish. He's not a real American.
  12. @216
    lol

    https://twitter.com/StephanieHazen/status/1211118603170390016

    Even people who should know better are stuck in a perma-1980s. The idea that Poland, a nation with a TFR of 1.5 (lower than White Americans) is going to provide a mass emigration to realign US politics is laughable.

    The idea with HK even more so, certainly a lot of these people do want to leave, but they are as urban as it gets, and quite unlikely to replicate Miami Cubans. Living in the US actually might be a downgrade in living standards for many.

    There should be an easy way of explaining this: Amnesty makes it "legal".

    The issue is not "illegal" it is "mass".

    Hell, even the Europeans from western Europe that have trickled in over the years still, lean heavily Socialist. At least they make their own way, don’t screw up the schools and hospitals, and don’t ruin whole neighborhoods. I’d go for a 1:1 trade of Polish (say, women, just for example) immigrants with Somalians who would be sent home or to Poland in return. Really, I don’t care where they end up.

    • Replies: @216

    say, women, just for example
     
    This is another example of people being locked into a past paradigm.

    The Eastern Bloc did have a higher ratio of F to M during the 1990s, a lot of men died of despair, or emigrated. So there is now a large "babushka bloc" that dominates politics, but there aren't large swathes of women seeking to be a mail-order bride.

    But that is no longer the case in the present breeding age cohort.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

    It's why I lol at the manosphere "marry an East Europe woman" trope. The only advantage that Western beta males have is money, or worse the green card. And these countries, some Balkans, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova excepted; are nowhere near as impoverished as they were during the formative years of the Gen Xers writing the advice colums.
  13. @Achmed E. Newman
    Hell, even the Europeans from western Europe that have trickled in over the years still, lean heavily Socialist. At least they make their own way, don't screw up the schools and hospitals, and don't ruin whole neighborhoods. I'd go for a 1:1 trade of Polish (say, women, just for example) immigrants with Somalians who would be sent home or to Poland in return. Really, I don't care where they end up.

    say, women, just for example

    This is another example of people being locked into a past paradigm.

    The Eastern Bloc did have a higher ratio of F to M during the 1990s, a lot of men died of despair, or emigrated. So there is now a large “babushka bloc” that dominates politics, but there aren’t large swathes of women seeking to be a mail-order bride.

    But that is no longer the case in the present breeding age cohort.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

    It’s why I lol at the manosphere “marry an East Europe woman” trope. The only advantage that Western beta males have is money, or worse the green card. And these countries, some Balkans, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova excepted; are nowhere near as impoverished as they were during the formative years of the Gen Xers writing the advice colums.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Dude, don't read into my comment what is not there. I was not writing about the sex demographics of the former East Bloc. I would rather import women because I am a man, so, you know ... and feminism has done a number on American and other Western women too.

    I'm not on a paradigm, 216, I'm just not gay.
  14. @216

    say, women, just for example
     
    This is another example of people being locked into a past paradigm.

    The Eastern Bloc did have a higher ratio of F to M during the 1990s, a lot of men died of despair, or emigrated. So there is now a large "babushka bloc" that dominates politics, but there aren't large swathes of women seeking to be a mail-order bride.

    But that is no longer the case in the present breeding age cohort.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

    It's why I lol at the manosphere "marry an East Europe woman" trope. The only advantage that Western beta males have is money, or worse the green card. And these countries, some Balkans, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova excepted; are nowhere near as impoverished as they were during the formative years of the Gen Xers writing the advice colums.

    Dude, don’t read into my comment what is not there. I was not writing about the sex demographics of the former East Bloc. I would rather import women because I am a man, so, you know … and feminism has done a number on American and other Western women too.

    I’m not on a paradigm, 216, I’m just not gay.

  15. @216
    lol

    https://twitter.com/StephanieHazen/status/1211118603170390016

    Even people who should know better are stuck in a perma-1980s. The idea that Poland, a nation with a TFR of 1.5 (lower than White Americans) is going to provide a mass emigration to realign US politics is laughable.

    The idea with HK even more so, certainly a lot of these people do want to leave, but they are as urban as it gets, and quite unlikely to replicate Miami Cubans. Living in the US actually might be a downgrade in living standards for many.

    There should be an easy way of explaining this: Amnesty makes it "legal".

    The issue is not "illegal" it is "mass".

    Lol.

    Love how those fucking losers won’t even mention the one demographic group that might actually make sense: white south African boers.

    Hong Kong people are just like Chinese when they get to the west, blowing all their money, and other than bitching don’t give a shit about hk. Also the entire america concept of “freedom” is totally a western euro thing too.

  16. @216
    lol

    https://twitter.com/StephanieHazen/status/1211118603170390016

    Even people who should know better are stuck in a perma-1980s. The idea that Poland, a nation with a TFR of 1.5 (lower than White Americans) is going to provide a mass emigration to realign US politics is laughable.

    The idea with HK even more so, certainly a lot of these people do want to leave, but they are as urban as it gets, and quite unlikely to replicate Miami Cubans. Living in the US actually might be a downgrade in living standards for many.

    There should be an easy way of explaining this: Amnesty makes it "legal".

    The issue is not "illegal" it is "mass".

    That Rogan O’Handley clown is an IRA supporting Irish Catholic who likes to whine about how badly Oliver Cromwell treated the Irish. He’s not a real American.

  17. @Achmed E. Newman

    The first thing to do when you’re in a hole is to stop digging. They don’t call the GOP the “stupid party” for no reason.
     
    I'd thought for a long time that that stupid party/evil party and bipartisanship line was pretty damn clever. I now think it is wrong. It's not stupidity that has the Red-squad of The Party failing to stop the madness. Behind the political infotainment, this is the way the elites want it to go down. Both squads of The Party are evil.

    Hard to argue with.

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