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Black Americans think the arc of history has been bending away from justice for generations:

They must think Jim Crow was bad but Jim Snow is even worse! Okay, that’s probably not it.

 
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  1. The simplest explanation is White flight.

    (blacks): “Where de white wimminz at? We been skewered mon! Race relations baaaad!”

    (everybody else): [deep breath]”Not a black in sight anywhere; race relations not so bad after all.”

    Hispanics and White women “not so sure” can mean a lot of things …

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @nokangaroos

    You've hit on something important--the definition of race relations.

    For whites, it's "can I walk to my car at 11 p.m. at the P.F Chang's and expect not to be killed?"

    For black men, it's "what will it take to get more white women to respond favorably when I ask if they wanna get wif dis?" (And not just the fatties, either)

    So we not only can't agree on harmony, we can't agree on the definition of harmony.

  2. Trillions of dollars in welfare, multiple programs and privileges, causing the most damage to people on the street.

    Why am I supposed to believe in racial equality again?

  3. Well, the blacks are right, after all. Race relations have gotten worse. That’s because everything that has occurred since the Civil Rights era has been nothing but the systematic falsification of the actual relationship that exists between the races. Nobody really likes that.

    I think the blacks were also right about the conservative bias of social media. Social media has made the asset-owning white upper class fabulously rich while doing nothing to change the status quo. How has the average black person benefitted from social media?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Intelligent Dasein


    Well, the blacks are right, after all. Race relations have gotten worse.
     
    Yep.

    I think the blacks were also right about the conservative bias of social media. Social media has made the asset-owning white upper class fabulously rich while doing nothing to change the status quo. How has the average black person benefitted from social media?
     
    Again there's a lot of truth in that.

    The antiracist obsession of the past few decades had nothing to do with actually making the lives of ordinary black people better. It was all about white virtue-signalling. And political point-scoring.

    The upper class and upper middle class (predominantly white) are now much better off that they were. Lower class and lower middle class black and white people are worse off.

    Blacks are correct to be cynical.
  4. How old are the people answering the question? Most people, including myself, only know of the 1960’s through history books.

    Thanks to BLM, race relations are worse than they were 10 years ago. Presumably the high numbers from whites indicates a “blue pill” effect. SJW’s believe what they want to believe. Facts are optional and likely undesirable.

    PEACE 😇

    [MORE]

  5. If blacks think things are worse for them since the 60’s, then we should listen to them and get rid of the legislation that started the whole racist ball rolling.

    ALL the Civil Rights legislation needs to be terminated. All laws that discriminate against one group need to be made null and void. Any law that is specific towards any classification such as black, disabled, female, gay, etc just needs to be eliminated. This can all be accomplished by using a word processor / text editor against all the laws and searching for these classifications. Any law containing one should just be scrapped.

    • Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour
    @RoatanBill

    Dear Roatan Bill,

    In my opinion, you are the all time best commentator on Unz, leaving otherwise good contributors in the dust.

    I have taken the liberty to post your comments in many different places.

    Thank you for your efforts.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

  6. There should not be “race relations” at all.
    We all know the Jews are responsible for this.
    The otherkins do not belong here.

    Jews especially do not belong here.
    They ruin everywhere they go.
    Turning them into the Ghetto.

    When the otherkins are expelled then things will get back to normal.
    This can and shall happen, one way or another.
    “Race relations” are a Big Lie that CAN NOT STAND THE LIGHT OF TRUTH.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  7. Given the interesting results of this “poll” is it possible that the black respondents either did not understand the poll questions/statements or have a fundamentally different way of defining those questions/statements than every other group polled? Maybe it isn’t a disagreement so much as a complete inability to communicate, a vast and unbridgeable cultural chasm? Is that a rational thing to deduce from these results??

  8. This is a great example of how this subject means nothing real.

    We have had equal opportunity and equal treatment under the law in the United States for as long as this commenter has been old enough to understand the concepts.

    Yet black Americans, they who are the reason for all of this, apparently by survey here think things have actually gotten worse in this regard. Now, you ask, why do they think this?

    Two reasons: 1) They are, on average, stupid and gullible, and 2) Their stupidity and gullibility has been exploited for political power and ethnic/media influence (but gee we won’t go into that last nuance! We want to go on buying groceries and breathing, after all…)

    Again, to restate, this means nothing real. Blacks, on average in a survey, think “race relations” (whatever the hell that is) have gotten worse, while nobody else thinks so. This should tell you something: It won’t matter one whit what we do. That one race will never, ever be satisfied as long as hucksters tell them they are being cheated.

  9. @RoatanBill
    If blacks think things are worse for them since the 60's, then we should listen to them and get rid of the legislation that started the whole racist ball rolling.

    ALL the Civil Rights legislation needs to be terminated. All laws that discriminate against one group need to be made null and void. Any law that is specific towards any classification such as black, disabled, female, gay, etc just needs to be eliminated. This can all be accomplished by using a word processor / text editor against all the laws and searching for these classifications. Any law containing one should just be scrapped.

    Replies: @Ralph B. Seymour

    Dear Roatan Bill,

    In my opinion, you are the all time best commentator on Unz, leaving otherwise good contributors in the dust.

    I have taken the liberty to post your comments in many different places.

    Thank you for your efforts.

    • Thanks: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @RoatanBill
    @Ralph B. Seymour

    I call them as I see them and have never been shy about expressing my opinions. My efforts here are to try to get people to at least consider an alternate view of things. That can sometimes best be done by getting some of them good and angry to engage in a conversation where I can point out their usual parochial view of how the real world works.

    Growing up in New York I've got skin as thick as a rhinoceros so the name calling I attract, although unfortunate, is expected and only diminishes those that can't refute my statements and point of view.

  10. Buzz you do not understand the “shuck and jive”.
    The blacks have no ability to work and save.
    Their “complaining” is how they get ahead in this Failed Zionist State.

    Much like Jews that NEVER have a GOOD DAY.
    “Complaining” and malingering is how the Zionist State doesn’t work.
    Work avoidance is why these creatures rely on parasitivism to eat.

    Only when the otherkins are shunned and removed, shall work be worthy again.
    No “set-asides”, no “complaints”, and no “charity” for the malingerers.
    What a Wonderful World that would be and can be.

    A space of your own, without “minorities”.
    No more “fake news”, false history or libel against your ancestors.
    Rebel. Join the Dark Enlightenment. DO NOT COMPLY!

  11. @Ralph B. Seymour
    @RoatanBill

    Dear Roatan Bill,

    In my opinion, you are the all time best commentator on Unz, leaving otherwise good contributors in the dust.

    I have taken the liberty to post your comments in many different places.

    Thank you for your efforts.

    Replies: @RoatanBill

    I call them as I see them and have never been shy about expressing my opinions. My efforts here are to try to get people to at least consider an alternate view of things. That can sometimes best be done by getting some of them good and angry to engage in a conversation where I can point out their usual parochial view of how the real world works.

    Growing up in New York I’ve got skin as thick as a rhinoceros so the name calling I attract, although unfortunate, is expected and only diminishes those that can’t refute my statements and point of view.

  12. @nokangaroos
    The simplest explanation is White flight.

    (blacks): "Where de white wimminz at? We been skewered mon! Race relations baaaad!"

    (everybody else): [deep breath]"Not a black in sight anywhere; race relations not so bad after all."

    Hispanics and White women "not so sure" can mean a lot of things ...

    Replies: @Bragadocious

    You’ve hit on something important–the definition of race relations.

    For whites, it’s “can I walk to my car at 11 p.m. at the P.F Chang’s and expect not to be killed?”

    For black men, it’s “what will it take to get more white women to respond favorably when I ask if they wanna get wif dis?” (And not just the fatties, either)

    So we not only can’t agree on harmony, we can’t agree on the definition of harmony.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  13. @Intelligent Dasein
    Well, the blacks are right, after all. Race relations have gotten worse. That's because everything that has occurred since the Civil Rights era has been nothing but the systematic falsification of the actual relationship that exists between the races. Nobody really likes that.

    I think the blacks were also right about the conservative bias of social media. Social media has made the asset-owning white upper class fabulously rich while doing nothing to change the status quo. How has the average black person benefitted from social media?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Well, the blacks are right, after all. Race relations have gotten worse.

    Yep.

    I think the blacks were also right about the conservative bias of social media. Social media has made the asset-owning white upper class fabulously rich while doing nothing to change the status quo. How has the average black person benefitted from social media?

    Again there’s a lot of truth in that.

    The antiracist obsession of the past few decades had nothing to do with actually making the lives of ordinary black people better. It was all about white virtue-signalling. And political point-scoring.

    The upper class and upper middle class (predominantly white) are now much better off that they were. Lower class and lower middle class black and white people are worse off.

    Blacks are correct to be cynical.

  14. My interpretation: white conservatards think that since the US legally discriminates white and asian people in favour of blacks and hispanics, that there are more interracial marriages, that the US voted twice for a black man for the presidency, that blacks are portrayed favourably in the mass-media, that people watch movies with black actors and games with black sportsmen, listens to black singers, and so on and so forth, that race relations are better.

    They are obviously wrong, like they are wrong on many other things. It’s only thanks to voluntary segregation that black on white crime is not higher, and is still 8 to 9 times higher than white on black crime. American suburbia are giant refugee camps.

    White liberals have more tiepid feelings about the issue, they can’t deny whites did a lot for blacks, but it’s “not enough” and there’s still a lot to do. Apparently the US needs to transfer more wealth from white and asian people into he pockets of blacks. Blacks should be forced to live in white neighbourhoods and attend majority white schools. Somehow destroying ethnic homogeneity will improve the situation according to leftists.

    Blacks are angry at whites because they can’t be like them. They have a huge inferiority complex – it’s so evident when they cope with “We Wuz Kangz” theories. They will never be satisfied because their desires are impossible to fulfill.

    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @alfa


    that the US voted twice for a black man for the presidency
     
    That's probably not true.  The outrageous level of fraud in the 2020 election was certainly nothing new, so both elections of Obutthole were likely achieved through fraud as well (no matter how unpopular McPain and Mittens were).

    They will never be satisfied because their desires are impossible to fulfill.
     
    Quoted for truth.

    Replies: @iffen

  15. @alfa
    My interpretation: white conservatards think that since the US legally discriminates white and asian people in favour of blacks and hispanics, that there are more interracial marriages, that the US voted twice for a black man for the presidency, that blacks are portrayed favourably in the mass-media, that people watch movies with black actors and games with black sportsmen, listens to black singers, and so on and so forth, that race relations are better.

    They are obviously wrong, like they are wrong on many other things. It's only thanks to voluntary segregation that black on white crime is not higher, and is still 8 to 9 times higher than white on black crime. American suburbia are giant refugee camps.

    White liberals have more tiepid feelings about the issue, they can't deny whites did a lot for blacks, but it's "not enough" and there's still a lot to do. Apparently the US needs to transfer more wealth from white and asian people into he pockets of blacks. Blacks should be forced to live in white neighbourhoods and attend majority white schools. Somehow destroying ethnic homogeneity will improve the situation according to leftists.

    Blacks are angry at whites because they can't be like them. They have a huge inferiority complex – it's so evident when they cope with "We Wuz Kangz" theories. They will never be satisfied because their desires are impossible to fulfill.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    that the US voted twice for a black man for the presidency

    That’s probably not true.  The outrageous level of fraud in the 2020 election was certainly nothing new, so both elections of Obutthole were likely achieved through fraud as well (no matter how unpopular McPain and Mittens were).

    They will never be satisfied because their desires are impossible to fulfill.

    Quoted for truth.

    • Replies: @iffen
    @Mr. Rational

    I may have mentioned this before, but you need a new handle if you are going to post BS like this.

  16. @Mr. Rational
    @alfa


    that the US voted twice for a black man for the presidency
     
    That's probably not true.  The outrageous level of fraud in the 2020 election was certainly nothing new, so both elections of Obutthole were likely achieved through fraud as well (no matter how unpopular McPain and Mittens were).

    They will never be satisfied because their desires are impossible to fulfill.
     
    Quoted for truth.

    Replies: @iffen

    I may have mentioned this before, but you need a new handle if you are going to post BS like this.

    • Troll: Mr. Rational

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