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And nobody but blacks dig the Democrats:

All that talk from the GOP aimed at convincing blacks how the Democrat party keeps them on the plantation has been really effective. Party of Lincoln, freed the slaves! Frank Luntz and Karl Rove are geniuses.

The unimpressive Republican figure among conservatives is arrived at by way of only two-thirds of conservatives viewing the GOP favorably while one-third view it unfavorably. There are tens of millions of Americans on the right who are politically homeless.

 
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  1. songbird says:

    Blacks were bused into the school system where I grew up. I liked a few of them, and didn’t like others.

    One of the eye-opening moments of my youth happened in my 8th grade civics class. This black guy that I didn’t like – rude, mean, dumb-as-a-rock, fatherless – saw a picture of Newt Gingrich, didn’t know his name, but recognized him enough to express his dislike for the man.

    It was almost like he recognized the color of his tie and that he was a white man. That is how self-organizing the political allegiance of blacks is. And not just their political allegiance, but their antipathy. No amount of overtures will ever win them over from their natural ethnocentrism.

  2. Daniel H says:

    One of the eye-opening moments of my youth happened in my 8th grade civics class. This black guy that I didn’t like – rude, mean, dumb-as-a-rock, fatherless – saw a picture of Newt Gingrich, didn’t know his name, but recognized him enough to express his dislike for the man.

    Well, I give that black guy props. He had the right intuition. He saw the truth behind that smug, grinning, rah-rah Ronnie Reagan, warmongering, Wall Street sucking cuck.

    • LOL: Truth
    • Replies: @Wency
  3. Mark G. says:

    It would be difficult to form a multi-racial working class coalition including blacks since blacks see themselves as black first. The Democrat party rewards them as blacks by giving them a disproportionate amount of welfare, race based affirmative action, talk of reparations specifically for blacks and support for BLM.

    As you see above, working class whites with no college degree are more favorable to Republicans than to Democrats. Working class whites are the ones who live around blacks and bear the full brunt of black crime. Upper class whites can use their wealth to insulate themselves from black crime. The last time there was a big increase in crime starting in the sixties the Republican party was able to pick up white working class votes by running law and order candidates and portraying wealthy white Democrats as out of touch limousine liberals who sent their children to private schools while supporting sending inner city black kids to white working class public schools and driving around in their limousines instead of taking black crime infested mass transit systems that working class whites had to use.

    This is likely to be the best path to take once again for Republicans rather than a futile attempt to get the black vote. The Republicans could also potentially pick up some Hispanic votes with a law and order message since, as Ron Unz has pointed out, Hispanics are fairly law abiding. They could also get some of the Asian vote since they are hurt by affirmative action for blacks and, contrary to what the mainstream media portrays, are targeted for attacks more by blacks than by whites.

    • Agree: Rich
    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
  4. i mean most africans support reparations, hate America, and think european people suck. that’s what literally every poll shows. even some Republican voting africans think YT should have money taken out of their paychecks and given directly to africans instead. the MAJORITY of Republican voting africans voted for Obama.

    what are you supposed to do in response to that? it’s idiotic nonsense to do anything other than completely write them off. africans HATE everything about YT. there’s NOTHING you could EVER do to just make them not hate you, let alone vote for you. spending 100 years trying to help them just made them hate you more. spending trillions trying to help them just made them hate you more.

    Republican politicians and voters are only now realizing that most professional athletes HATE THEM. that’s not new – the players ALWAYS felt that way. the only thing that’s new is realizing that all your favorite players over the last 100 years hate you and always have. giving them millions of dollars a year to play a sport on television did not make them glad and thankful to be American citizens. they’re not thankful AT ALL.

    90% of africans think they deserve your paycheck. right now. in 2021. think about that long and hard. they hate you so much, you can barely comprehend it. the friendly black guy you’ve known for years hates you, and thinks he deserves your money. trying to get thru that 200% committed wall of hatred is like trying to talk communists out of destroying your country. Republicans didn’t try to talk communists out of communism, they realized that was pointless. but somehow they don’t realize the same thing about africans.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  5. The parties are pointless, ahem, at this point. It seems every human organization evolves or devolves to this: Self-serving elites doing their best to control all those below them who actually produce things people need.

    “There are tens of millions of Americans on the right who are politically homeless.” Of course there are! They seem to be the only thinking people in the country right now.

    • Agree: Realist, TomSchmidt
  6. dfordoom says: • Website

    There are tens of millions of Americans on the right who are politically homeless.

    I think you’ll find that there are just as many people on the left who are politically homeless.

    Wokeism is not leftism. People who are genuinely leftist despise Wokeism and see it as a charade, a con game. The rich get richer while spouting Woke talking points. Mega-corporations get richer and more powerful while pushing Wokeism.

    Disillusioned leftists are in the same position as disillusioned rightists.

    And not just in America, but throughout the Anglosphere. It may well be the case throughout the West, but it’s certainly the case throughout the Anglosphere.

    • Agree: Rosie
  7. Daniel H says:
    @dfordoom

    People who are genuinely leftist despise Wokeism and see it as a charade, a con game.

    Where are these, who are these genuine leftists in America today?

  8. Unit472 says:

    The GOP has to jettison it’s corporate wing. It can be pro private enterprise but being stooges for multinational corporations gains them nothing except a few sinecures for politicians wives and some PAC contributions. It doesn’t get them votes.

    Supporting middle and working class interests andfifh fighting the educrats/teachers unions might be the only way to win elections in America today. Negroes are a lost cause. They’ve been bought with entitlement spending and will stay bought until that funding dries up. That might be too faraway either. Social security and Medicare will consume the budget and our debt to GDP ratio will constrain deficit spending.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @James Braxton
  9. iffen says:
    @Daniel H

    Where are these, who are these genuine leftists in America today?

    He just told you that we have no home. We can only be located individually.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Exile
  10. Realist says:

    Party affiliation means nothing. This country is under total control of the Deep State. Only a fool would believe a vote counts. The solution for the current dilemma will not be a happy time.

  11. Realist says:
    @Unit472

    Supporting middle and working class interests andfifh fighting the educrats/teachers unions might be the only way to win elections in America today.

    The electoral process is dead.

    • Agree: RoatanBill
    • Replies: @songbird
    , @dfordoom
  12. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel H

    In my estimation they are a tiny sliver of the left and are made up of the independent-minded far left. E.g., Glenn Greenwald, Max Blumenthal, Jimmy Dore, Caitlin Johnstone, et al., and their followers.

    I left the GOP after Trump left office. I’ve been a staunch GOP supporter for over 3 decades. The last 4 years have been a red-pill lesson for me. Trump’s election, if nothing else, ripped the curtain away, the masks fell, and we got to see what a sham of the whole thing is. GOP politicians are the Washington Generals playing the Democrat opposition Harlem Globetrotters.

    FISA courts, federal courts. the Supreme Court—the whole federal judiciary— DOJ, FBI, the intelligence community, media, all of it, I now view as totally corrupt and evil. And there is nothing that can be done to restore my confidence in any of these institutions. The fight against Trump exposed all of this.

    In the last 14 months I’ve lost most of my trust in the medical and scientific community. As well as in the people who hyped the dangers of COVID (Nassim Taleb, Steve Sailer, Ron Unz, Anatoly Karlin. et al.). If people can be so wrong on something so big how in God’s name can you trust them again on anything?? And forget the media. The media’s coverage of COVID (and Trump/Russia, et al,) seems a lot like when media covers NORAD’s tracking of Santa’s flight at Christmas.

    • Replies: @Truth
  13. Arclight says:

    For many, the GOP is just the crap alternative to voting for Democrats but not a party with a platform designed to reach and reward a broad base of Americans. 90% of what they do is designed to make the Chamber of Commerce happy, and to serve as the Washington Generals to the Dems Harlem Globetrotters on cultural issues. The other 10% is mostly to make sure forever war pseudo intellectuals have the opportunity to keep meddling in places where we don’t belong and supports an ecosystem of think tanks that have produced a global multi-generational hostility to America.

    As for the dog-like loyalty of blacks for the Democrats, I would say that 2/3 of this is driven by black women, who are literally the most blindly partisan voters in the nation. Maybe only a quarter or so of black men (who are a smaller share of the black electorate than women) are willing to vote the other way, but they are worth going after because as a bloc they are so important to Dem political strategy. But the key to that is not trying to act like conservatives care more about black people/issues or stupid comparisons to the plantation, it’s positioning conservatives as the masculine party. Black America is essentially a matriarchy at this point and an not insignificant share of black men absolutely hate it.

    • Agree: Servant of Gla'aki
  14. Wency says:
    @Daniel H

    Yeah, I do mostly agree with Songbird’s original point, but I think this is a bad example to prove it. A lot of less-informed voters basically vote based on things like how sleazy a guy seems, which isn’t the worst criterion (see Douthat’s recent column to this effect, of less-informed voters as a stabilizing and anti-insanity force).

    As far as I can tell, Gingrich is as sleazy as they come. Not to mention an example of that beloved Republican archetype, the self-righteous hypocrite. At a personal level, I wouldn’t trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

    Then again, the more mild-mannered fellow who succeeded him was a gay child molester (after the one who attempted to succeed him was found to have had multiple affairs).

    So I suppose for anyone living through all that at the time, the moral of the story is: if a Republican Speaker comes around, hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband too, because they’re raping everybody in here. But yeah, great institution, the GOP.

  15. Nobody Likes the GOP

    I hate the evil and treasonous Ruling Class of the rancid Republican Party but I love with all my heart the regular Republican Party voters — well, some of them, to be precise.

    For instance, recently a US Senator Black stooge whore for the rancid Republican Party Ruling Class named Timmy “Token Boy” Scott went on TV and prattled on about this or that and then the lantern holder token boy Timmy Scott started to rhetorically ape the boring crap from the anti-White corporate media about so-called “racism” and I hope it went over like a cast iron watermelon and hush puppies made of saw dust and glue fried in soybean oil.

    I read on the internet that Timmy “Token Boy” Scott briefly mentioned the 800 pound gorilla at the garden party — IMMIGRATION — and he went on and on about vague crud that don’t get the gut and the blood and the sense of civilizational calamity that is needed to move White asses to the polling booth.

    Timmy “Token Boy” Scott is a boring Black bastard with horse gums so I’ll go to that other Scott not named George C. and talk about the real nasty disgusting baby boomer scum named Rick Scott. US Senator Rick Scott is a filthy politician whore for the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire and Rick Scott is a vile puppet whore for the Ruling Class of the Republican Party and Rick Scott will be the bag guy money boy handing out donor loot to all the vile whores who will be running for US Senate in 2022.

    I love with a warm and honest passionate intensity the Republican Party voters — well, the ones who are lovable at least — but I hate with the heat of a thousand suns the disgusting human crud in the Ruling Class of the donor-controlled Republican Party.

    DESTROY THE TREASONOUS DONOR-CONTROLLED REPUBLICAN PARTY RULING CLASS NOW!

    LOVE AND DEFEND THE REGULAR REPUBLICAN PARTY VOTERS — THE LOVABLE ONES, THAT IS

  16. A123 says:

    We know that YouGov over samples Democrats, so the situation is better than it appears at first glance.

    The unimpressive Republican figure among conservatives is arrived at by way of only two-thirds of conservatives viewing the GOP favorably while one-third view it unfavorably.

    What does “conservative” mean? The sub group that aligns with unlimited laissez-faire economics and libertarianism will not support Trump’s MAGA party. It is unsurprising that breaking the traditional definition leads to perceived negatives.

    There are tens of millions of Americans on the right who are politically homeless

    Use of the term “right” is problematic. The last thing they want is traditional “right” policy such as cutting taxes for the Elite 1% . Strictly limiting migration and re-industrialization require a mix of both “left” & “right” policy.

    There are tens of millions of Populist Citizen/Workers that have yet to buy into the new MAGA party. This is understandable. Routing the GOP(e) is still a work in progress. Mitt Romney is being heckled while trying to speak, but he is still Senator and a failed GOP(e) Presidential candidate. It will take time to convince these people to formally pick the MAGA side.
    _____

    Another thing to consider is that this poll represents a moment of maximum favour for the DNC.

    MAGA Populism has irrevocably moved International MegaCorporations and NeoConDemocrats into the DNC coalition. How long will it take for the Progressive Socialist faction to begin fighting against the new backbone of the Globalist DNC?

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  17. Recucklicans minority outreach is just way for them to look busy and not-raysiss, though they’re called raysiss anyway.

    The R’s role in the Uniparty is to briefly object to whatever radical communist scheme the donkeys come up with, then throw the fight.

    The only time Recucks actually got tough was to defeat the Tea Party.

  18. Nobody Likes the GOP

    Nobody likes the rancid politician whores in the Republican Party Ruling Class; but the nasty and treasonous GOP donors love the GOP politician whores because the whores do the bidding of the donors.

    US Senator(R) of Florida Rick Scott is an evil baby boomer whore for the Republican Party Ruling Class and Rick Scott is an enemy of the American people.

    Rick Scott pushes mass legal immigration and Rick Scott wants to double the number of illegal alien invaders in the USA. There are upwards of 30 million illegal alien invaders in the USA at this moment and US Senator Rick Scott wants to increase that number to 60 million.

    Rick Scott is the guy the rancid donors will give loot to and then Rick Scott will dole out the donor loot to all the pliable sleazy whores running in Republican Party primaries for the 2022 general election.

    I wrote this about Rick Scott in September of 2018:

    GOP pandering to Puerto Ricans — example given: Rick Scott in Florida — will accelerate the split between the globalizer GOP such as Scott and the GOP White Core American Patriots.

    Rick Scott is a plutocrat GOP politician pandering like a bastard to the Puerto Ricans in Florida. Jebby Bush tried that in the GOP presidential primary and it backfired on him.

    Puerto Rico is a Third World basket case deep in unpayable debt. Contingency plans should be set in motion to completely and totally sever Puerto Rico from the United States. Puerto Rican debt should be written off and the holders of that debt should be encouraged to sprinkle pepper on the bonds and eat them.

    Perhaps the disappointing performance of Trump in regards to reducing legal immigration and deporting illegal alien invaders will add to the split between the globalizer GOP that pushes mass immigration and the White Core American Patriot GOP that wants an immigration moratorium and a mass deportation plan to remove all illegal alien invaders in the United States.

    Two things driving politics in European Christian nations:

    Mass Immigration and Monetary Policy

    DEMOGRAPHY and DEBT

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-lesson-of-puerto-rico/#comment-2519280

    Tweet from 2015:

  19. The Ruling Class of the Republican Party pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration.

    The White Core America Republican Party will deport all 30 million illegal alien invaders in the USA.

    The White Core America Republican Party will implement a complete and total halt to all legal immigration.

    The White Core America Republican Party will implement a complete and total immigration moratorium.

    The White Core America Republican Party will implement a complete and total halt to all REFUGEE OVERLOAD and asylum seeker INUNDATION and all visa holders will be removed from the USA and all legal permanent residents will be made aware of the ease with which their asses can be legally kicked out of the USA.

  20. songbird says:
    @Wency

    As far as I can tell, Gingrich is as sleazy as they come.

    he’s a sleazeball, no question, though the one thing I did appreciate about him is that he was obviously smart.

    Not saying that that is necessarily a good thing in a pol, or that it was ever common, but it does imbue one with a slight sense of nostalgia, in a general way, for what was lost. Like Ross Perot bringing in those charts – there was clearly an implicit, if gentle, appeal to white people, in a way that would now be obviously impossible, when all the rhetoric has undertones of voodoo, or blood libel against whites, or when they promoted Biden because of his senility.

  21. songbird says:
    @Realist

    The electoral process is dead.

    Technically, I think there might still be a way for Republicans to win – if they went full trad thot. That is promote only pretty, young women in Congressional races, and plaster their images on billboards.

    I think they would have at least a good chance of winning that way – make it a contest between what is beautiful and what is ugly. That would put the Dems at a disadvantage to start with. One reason being, they would come off worse, for trying to smear them.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  22. dfordoom says: • Website
    @iffen

    Where are these, who are these genuine leftists in America today?

    He just told you that we have no home. We can only be located individually.

    Yeah, basically.

    There is no significant political party in any Anglosphere country that represents the views and aspirations of genuine (non-Woke) leftists. Not even minor political parties. The political parties which did at one time, to some extent at least, represent our views no longer do so.

    There are huge numbers of people on both right and left who are effectively disenfranchised. Nobody knows exactly how many there are, because we have no voice.

    It’s also worth pointing out that cancel culture is a weapon that can be used, and in fact is used, to silence dissidents on both the right and the left.

    It’s quite possible that if you added up all the people on the right and the left who are politically homeless you’d find that it’s an overall majority of the population. But without money and without organisation (which requires money) and without leadership that majority is powerless.

  23. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Realist

    The electoral process is dead.

    It never did work. From the beginning of modern democracy people have voted for politicians and political parties who then betrayed their voters over and over again.

    It’s become worse, because it’s in the nature of democracy to grow ever more corrupt.

    Expecting the electoral process to work for ordinary people is like expecting organised crime to work for ordinary people.

    This is one of the things that the counter-culturalists of the 60s and 70s understood. They understood that it was a waste of time to fret over elections. If you wanted to change things you had to bypass the electoral process. That’s what the anti-Vietnam War movement was all about. And the Civil Rights movement. Politicians will always betray you if they can but you can put pressure on them and sometimes you can do so successfully.

    But you have to do it by non-violent means. If you try using violent means you’ll get crushed. Or you’ll end up with a bloodbath. And probably get crushed anyway. Groups like the Baader-Meinhof Gang and the Symbionese Liberation Army achieved nothing. The anti-war protests and the Civil Rights protests did achieve some of their objectives. Whether you agree or disagree with those objectives is irrelevant. Those protests did achieve something. And they achieved something by rejecting both the electoral process and violence.

    • Replies: @Realist
  24. Exile says:
    @iffen

    I’ll name Dore, Tracey and Taibbi as leftists I find sincere and “anti-Woke.” They’re wrong headed in many ways but they’re not cynical grifters or apologists for neoliberal greedheads and warhawks.

    • Replies: @Matra
  25. dfordoom says: • Website
    @A123

    There are tens of millions of Americans on the right who are politically homeless

    Use of the term “right” is problematic. The last thing they want is traditional “right” policy such as cutting taxes for the Elite 1% . Strictly limiting migration and re-industrialization require a mix of both “left” & “right” policy.

    I do agree with that. And opposing Wokeism has nothing to do with traditional notions of left and right either. Wokeism is not an ideology of the Left. It’s an ideology of the elite (and of the wannabe elites and the clients and hangers-on of the elites).

    But your faith in the idea that the GOP will transform itself into something useful is misplaced. No political party is capable of being transformed into something useful because party politics is inherently corrupt.

    You’re not going to win through the ballot box. And you’re not going to win through guns. Fortunately there are other ways.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
    • Replies: @A123
  26. A123 says:
    @dfordoom

    You’re not going to win through the ballot box. And you’re not going to win through guns. Fortunately there are other ways.

    As bad a Electoral politics are… Guns are worse…

    As bad as Guns are… Every other choice is worse…

    There have been a few bouts of good governance from other methods, but they have all failed catastrophically over time:

    • A good Monarch can be effective, but all it takes is one generation of bad genetics to collapse succession via hereditary.
    • Emperors & Tyrants will ultimately turn to Guns.
    • Direct democracy inevitably fails by enacting policies with insufficient funding. This makes them easy prey to the regulatory class and their Elite masters.

    Fixing the GOP is the only option. Unfortunately, there are no other ways.

    PEACE 😇

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  27. Love the sinner; hate the sin.

    Love the GOP voters; hate the GOP donors and GOP politicians.

    The US Senate is infested with rodentine scum politician whores of the rancid Republican Party.

    Timmy “Token Boy” Scott and Rick Scott and Thom Tillis and John Cornyn and Lindsey Graham and all the rest of the filthy Republican Party senatorial scum all push mass legal immigration and multicultural mayhem and they all are aiding and abetting the illegal alien invasion of the USA.

    McCarthy and Cheney and the rodentine Republican Party scum in the US House are vile too, but all experts agree that the GOP US Senators are viler still.

    Mike Lee is a Republican Party politician whore of the worst sort and Mike Lee joined with Kamala Harris a while back to open the FLOODGATES to an ASIAN INDIAN INUNDATION and Kamala Harris and Mike Lee want to pour tens of millions of Asian Indians into the USA and the rancid disgusting scum in the Republican Party are fully supportive of the environmentally-disastrous plot to cram upwards of 50 million teeming Asian Indians into the USA.

  28. I love the beautiful and proud Republican Party voters but the Republican Party donors and politician whores are vicious treasonous scum.

    Mike Lee is a perfect example of a putrid GOP politician whore and Mike Lee joined up with Willie Brown’s gal pal Kamala Harris to flood the USA with Asian Indians.

    I wrote this in 2019 about the evil scheme to flood the USA with Asian Indians cooked up by those two politician whores Mike Lee and Kamala Harris:

    US Senator Kamala Harris is a politician whore for the CHEAP LABOR FACTION of the US Congress.

    Kamala Harris and Republican US Senator Mike Lee are pushing an immigration bill(S 386) that would flood the USA with massive amounts of Asian Indian foreigners and other foreigners.

    Kamala Harris and Mike Lee are well known to be politician whores for the greedy, money-grubbing scoundrels in the CHEAP LABOR FACTION of the US Congress.

    Kamala Harris wants to pour more and more mass legal immigration into the USA.

    Kamala Harris wants to reward Asian Indians with entry into the USA and green cards and more visas to flood more Asian Indians into the USA. Kamala Harris is a Mulatto and Kamala Harris is a Asian Indian. Kamala Harris is a Hindu who thinks she’s better than all the rest of us. Kamala Harris is an extremely arrogant and nasty woman.

    Kamala Harris wants to replace American technology workers and American STEM workers with Asian Indians. Kamala Harris wants to flood the USA with H-1B visa Asian Indians.

    Kamala Harris is a clear and present threat to the safety, security and sovereignty of the USA.

    Kamala Harris wants to lower wages for American workers. Kamala Harris wants to replace American workers with Asian Indian visa foreigners.

    The voters must remove CHEAP LABOR FACTION politicians like Kamala Harris and Mike Lee from the US congress.

    President Trump seems to support the anti-worker treason of Kamala Harris and Mike Lee.

    https://www.unz.com/anepigone/becky-against-our-boy/#comment-3457523

  29. Stick says:

    Imagine what these results would show if we had an objective media. This poll just represents what 40 years of media bombardment can do to a party. It would be nice if there were some balance in reporting. But there isn’t.

  30. Matra says:
    @Exile

    Wokeness is just the next logical step from political correctness, which in turn came from the leftism of the previous half century or so. Very few white male leftists had a problem with the havoc caused by PC, and since as far back as the 50s in some cases have been happy to hate on Southern whites, Afrikaners, pieds noirs, so-called homophobes and various other non-PC groups, but now that it might have an impact on them, well, now it has gone too far!

    Maybe they genuinely cared more about economics & just gave lip service to the identity stuff thinking it would play itself out. If so, then they were as naive as the GOP-voting conservatives who fall for the family values talking points brought out before each election. I think you’d have to be close to 75 to remember a time when the left’s movers & shakers cared more about economic than cultural/racial issues.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  31. @Charles Pewitt

    You neglected to include the other rodentine Republican Party scum senator representing the state of Utah: Mittens

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  32. @dfordoom

    I’ll gladly work with “Jimmy Dore leftists” when possible … and it’s possible. We all refuse to submit to rule by plutocrats and their banks and huge corporations, whether alt-left or alt-right. We all refuse to accept the surveillance and degradation of the developing police state (which definitely includes the pandemic-hysteria Lockdown (which was rightly only a prison term before this).

    Together we can save US taxpayers trillions of dollars by tearing down the military-industrial complex and closing most of our rulers’ military bases far abroad. We’d see a majority of dems, independents, and repubs supporting comprehensive foreign-base closures if, say, half the savings were paid directly to all Americans (meaning non-incarcerated US Citizens 21 and over).

    We can spare millions more innocent people the death, terror, grievous injury and handicap, displacement, and homelessness caused by our rulers’ wars thus far — and start alleviating the hatred of the usa and americans that naturally results. We can save our soldiers from needless death, handicap, and trauma, too, making them defenders instead of aggressors or corporate/bank mercenaries.

    We could also band together, disillusioned Americans left and right, on tax policy. How about phasing out the federal income tax for family/household income up to $100,000 per year, but jacking the fed income tax rate to 75 percent on annual income over one hundred million dollars per year? Index it amply for inflation.

    Third, free-thinking people from left and right and in between can get together to take down the censors, opinion manipulators, disinformation spreaders, and bullies at facebook, twitter, youtube, and their ilk. Those creeps deplatform anyone left or right who questions conventional wisdom i.e. propaganda. Fine them and their major owners and executives heavily when they shut or limit accounts or monetization based on viewpoint. Treat them like heavily regulated public utilities at best.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  33. @Daniel H

    The authentic post war American Left was Capitalist. We just wanted our share of Capitalist loot. We were Union men and Democrats. Bill Clinton kicked us to the curb in favor of Corporate Bucks in his second term. We remained homeless until Orange Man discovered us. We are NOT Republcans but you will find many of us among the Deplorables. We are not woke. We are not Socialists. We want work and wages. Not war and wellfare.

    • Agree: iffen
  34. @songbird

    How you gonna win a rigged election?

    • Replies: @A123
    , @songbird
    , @iffen
  35. @Unit472

    The corporate wing has long been in the process of jettisoning the GOP.

    Democrats crush Republicans on corporate fundraising, which 20 years ago was not the case.

  36. @songbird

    This black guy that I didn’t like – rude, mean, dumb-as-a-rock, fatherless – saw a picture of Newt Gingrich, didn’t know his name, but recognized him enough to express his dislike for the man.

    NAFTA
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/h575
    Newt Gingrich -‘Aye’

    80% of House Republicans voted ‘Aye’ to globalize manufacturing, and send jobs in search of the lowest possible wages in 3rd world sweatshops.

    43% of House Democrats, in comparison, voted in favor (including Pelosi) of shipping jobs to 3rd world sweatshops.

    Its a little dated now, but there is a book by Hedrick Smith that describes the brutal outsourcing of Americans’ jobs in a uniquely personal manner –

    Hundreds of workers at Sunbeam’s profitable plant in McMinnville, Tennessee, are laid off and ordered to train their replacements in a factory in Mexico, in a firing ordered by Sunbeam CEO Al Dunlap. Dunlap has makes a personal fortune as a serial downsizer of businesses. Jack Wahl, owner of Sunbeam competitor Wahl Clipper Corporation, criticizes the Sunbeam layoffs as shortsighted and “extremely wasteful,” and says his company runs profitably with U.S. workers.

    If I recall correctly, the book refers to this event as ”The tale of two Dunlaps”, because it focused on one of Al Dunpap’s outsourcing victims, and older woman who was also named ‘Dunlap’, and who had formerly made the wage of $9 before her firing, on the Fourth of July.

    Hetrick notes that the Sunbeam factory was turning a good profit at the time, but that Mrs Dunlap’s $9/hr wage was cut to only the equivalent of $3/hr when moved to Mexico, thanks to the deliberate efforts of the NAFTA votes, in particular the Chamber of Commerce Republicans.

    Mrs Dunlap was only one of millions of such helpless victims of these corrupt parties betraying the nation, and only one company out of countless such examples, enabled by the betrayal of our self-enriching Political class. Hetrick notes that a year after the outsourcing of her job, she was still unemployed and near broke.

    Benedict Arnold is courageous in comparison, because he at least facing fire and combat when he sold out the people. The Republicans basked in payoffs and rewards for there treason.

    • Replies: @A123
    , @songbird
  37. A123 says:
    @WorkingClass

    How you gonna win a rigged election?

    The Democrats invented Gerrymandering. How did the Republicans start winning elections? They ratcheted Gerrymandering up to a new level and drowned the Democrats with it.

    The Democrats have normalized Fultoning, named after the ballot rigging Georgia County. How will the Republicans win elections? They will ratchet Fultoning up to the next level and swamp Democrats.

    The 2024 election will mark a new highpoint in U.S. political history. Over 100% turnout. Fultoning by both sides will yield more ballots cast than eligible voters. And, according to SJW dogma, Every Ballot Must Be Counted !!!

    The DNC could theoretically void the election. Remember, the Constitution has a provision for failed balloting via the Electoral College. The House selects the President. Each State gets 1 Vote & the first to 26 Votes wins.

    PEACE 😇

  38. @songbird

    This black guy that I didn’t like – rude, mean, dumb-as-a-rock, fatherless – saw a picture of Newt Gingrich, didn’t know his name, but recognized him enough to express his dislike for the man.

    NAFTA
    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/103-1993/h575
    Newt Gingrich -‘Aye’

    80% of House Republicans voted ‘Aye’ to globalize manufacturing, and send jobs in search of the lowest possible wages in 3rd world sweatshops.

    43% of House Democrats, in comparison, voted in favor (including Pelosi) of shipping jobs to 3rd world sweatshops.

    Its a little dated now, but there is a book by Hedrick Smith that describes the brutal outsourcing of Americans’ jobs in a uniquely personal manner –

    Hundreds of workers at Sunbeam’s profitable plant in McMinnville, Tennessee, are laid off and ordered to train their replacements in a factory in Mexico, in a firing ordered by Sunbeam CEO Al Dunlap. Dunlap has makes a personal fortune as a serial downsizer of businesses. Jack Wahl, owner of Sunbeam competitor Wahl Clipper Corporation, criticizes the Sunbeam layoffs as shortsighted and “extremely wasteful,” and says his company runs profitably with U.S. workers.

    If I recall correctly, the book refers to this event as ”The tale of two Dunlaps”, because it focused on one of Al Dunlap’s outsourcing victims, and older woman who was also named ‘Dunlap’, and who had formerly made the wage of $9 before her firing, on the Fourth of July.

    Hetrick notes that the Sunbeam factory was turning a good profit at the time, but that Mrs Dunlap’s $9/hr wage was cut to only the equivalent of $3/hr when moved to Mexico, thanks to the deliberate efforts of the NAFTA votes, in particular the Chamber of Commerce Republicans.

    Mrs Dunlap was only one of millions of such helpless victims of these corrupt parties betraying the nation, and only one company out of countless such examples, enabled by the betrayal of our self-enriching Political class. Hetrick notes that a year after the outsourcing of her job, she was still unemployed and near broke.

    Benedict Arnold is courageous in comparison, because he at least facing fire and combat when he sold out the people. The Republicans basked in payoffs and rewards for there treason.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  39. African Americans went from slavery to Jim Crow to most favored status. They have NEVER been on a level playing field with Whites. The Civil Rights Movemet should have stopped at voting rights and equal protection. Us Union guys supported the Democrats Great Society because they supported our right to organize. The Great Society and the Vietnam War were the huge mistakes of my generation.

    • Agree: Mark G.
  40. A123 says:
    @Trial by Wombat

    thanks to the deliberate efforts of the NAFTA votes, in particular the Chamber of Commerce Republicans.

    It is critical to realize that ~20 years years of politics have changed alignment. The U.S. Chamber of China Worship Commerce now embraces the Woke SJW slate: (1)

    Every former administration took massive payments from the CoC and allowed the Chamber to write trade agreements language for decades. The CoC business model was to take payments from Wall Street multinationals and then write the agreements to their benefit.

    President Trump knew about the CoC business model; that’s why he never allowed them a seat at the ‘America First’ table. … the U.S. Chamber dropped their pretense and admitted they were now supporting democrats because the CoC effort can only succeed by destroying Main St.

    The CoC was never a “right wing organization”, nor was it a “republican organization”; it was always a multinational globalist organization structured to support Wall Street and destroy Main Street. It was always a feature, not a flaw…. but no-one would believe it.

    You are corrct to condemn the U.S. CoC and their DNC party allies. If you want to beat those who suck at the CoC, then the new MAGA Republican party is your only viable option.

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/08/28/the-bloom-is-off-the-ruse-tom-donohue-and-u-s-chamber-of-commerce-announce-support-for-far-left-democrats-in-2020/

    • Replies: @Trial by Wombat
  41. songbird says:
    @WorkingClass

    You’d have to have a big enough lead with a surprise win. It’s happened before. Scott Brown won Massachusetts when he ran for Senate in a special election.

  42. songbird says:
    @Trial by Wombat

    One of the cutting things about NAFTA was, how when they moved the automotive factories, the new plants in Mexico had much smaller parking lots because it was only the execs who had cars. Everyone else was bused in.

    • Agree: Trial by Wombat
  43. iffen says:
    @WorkingClass

    How you gonna win a rigged election?

    Exactly like Stalin said.

  44. @Trial by Wombat

    I had a job with a big manufacturing company pre NAFTA. They sent my job to Mexico. My father worked for the same company. He was a company man (engineer) and I was a union man (machinist). We had some interesting conversations. One thing we agreed on was NAFTA is bullshit. I remember him saying “now they won’t just not know what they are doing they won’t even know where they are doing it”.

    • Thanks: Trial by Wombat
  45. Truth says:
    @Anonymous

    FISA courts, federal courts. the Supreme Court—the whole federal judiciary— DOJ, FBI, the intelligence community, media, all of it, I now view as totally corrupt and evil. And there is nothing that can be done to restore my confidence in any of these institutions. The fight against Trump exposed all of this.

    Solid post in general, Old Sport, I have one minor quibble though; the fight against Trump should not have exposed this, the election of this clown after his buffoonish behavior, in the first place should have been all of the evidence necessary.

    Trump is an actor, his job was to tie the pure, blonde maiden to the railroad tracks in order to set up the hero to save the day. He knew his role, did a great job in his role, and his moustache-twirling, achieved the desired benefit; to get half the audience rooting for the clown in the stovepipe hat, the other half rooting for the other clown.

    The rumor was that he has been broke for over a decade, and this was his life raft.

    Everything you see on television is scripted. There are no good guys or bad guys, or democrats or republicans, or conservatives or liberals just actors. It is one large Hagelian Dialectic; thesis, antithesis, synthesis, and you won’t like the synthesis, no matter upon which side of the phony aisle, you choose to place yourself.

  46. @Charles Pewitt

    Love the sinner; hate the sin.

    Love the GOP voters; hate the GOP donors and GOP politicians.

    Yes. Exactly right. Thanks Charles.

  47. @Mark G.

    Democrats are smarter than Republicans because Democrats distinguish between voters that have agency (like Chinese and Japanese) and voters (like blacks) that do not.

    The Republicans … could also get some of the Asian vote….

    The Republican Party is a Big Tent, it is said. If one wishes to ensure that no Chinese nor Japanese will enter the tent, then one should post a Republican to hold the tent’s flap open, beckoning and grinning like a fool.

    No self-respecting person wants to enter a tent like that.

    On the other hand, just leave the flap quietly open, and sooner or later—if only to take refuge from BLM—some Chinese or Japanese might enter the tent of their own accord.

    Instead of trying to maneuver Chinese- or Japanese-American voters, which won’t work, and instead of insulting Chinese or Japanese by trying to tutor them regarding their own ethnic interests, smart Republicans would bait the Democratic Party into ever more explicit political attacks against whites, while persistently drawing attention to specific black street attacks against east Asians. Let Chinese and Japanese then choose, flat out, whether an attempt to dispossess white Americans of their ancestral homeland is worth following BLM to hell to do it.

    That is how to win blocs of the Asian vote.

    Heck, you’d probably boost your share of the black vote a bit, too, as a bonus.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  48. @dfordoom

    I think you’ll find that there are just as many people on the left who are politically homeless.

    Yes but that’s not what the poll said.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  49. dfordoom says: • Website
    @A123

    There have been a few bouts of good governance from other methods, but they have all failed catastrophically over time:

    • A good Monarch can be effective, but all it takes is one generation of bad genetics to collapse succession via hereditary.
    • Emperors & Tyrants will ultimately turn to Guns.
    • Direct democracy inevitably fails by enacting policies with insufficient funding. This makes them easy prey to the regulatory class and their Elite masters.

    I agree with those points, to a certain degree at least.

    But that wasn’t what I was talking about. I wasn’t talking about systems of government. I was talking about other ways (aside from guns and the ballot box) in which the political process can be influenced. I was thinking about examples such as the Civil Rights movement and the anti-war movement of the 60s both of which were to some degree successful in changing government policy by means which did not include guns or a direct reliance on the ballot box.

    I wasn’t talking about overthrowing the existing system but about finding ways to pressure governments to change certain policies.

    Both the Women’s Liberation and Gay Liberation movements of the 60/70s were other examples. The environmentalist movement was another. In more recent times you could add BLM.

    All of these movements rejected violence but they also bypassed the electoral system by putting direct pressure on governments.

    Whatever you think of the movements I’ve mentioned (and I personally strongly disagreed with most of them), they did achieve some success. I’m suggesting that perhaps it might be possible to learn from those movements.

    A direct reliance on the electoral system or a direct reliance on a political party will both fail because there is no way to prevent politicians and political parties from betraying you unless you can put extreme pressure on them by non-electoral means.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @A123
  50. @A123

    President Trump knew about the CoC business model; that’s why he never allowed them a seat at the ‘America First’ table. …

    President Trump could have done the right thing, and – I suspect – he knew the right thing to do.

    What Trump should have done = Close the Southern (3rd world) border to all traffic at the first provocation, impose duties/tariffs on foreign maquiladora factories, offer relocation costs for maquiladora coming back into the USA, refuse to renew NAFTA and – Imagine how smart Trump would have looked once all the Covid China imports halted if – instead of signing Jared’s USMCA – he had imposed permanent China tariffs and implemented a ”build here/sell here” policy. Unfortunately for Americans, he did none of that.

    I have never had even the slightest of interaction with anyone who even remotely knows Trump so I will fully concede that my impressions of his administration are entirely formulated through media observation.. that said..

    Trump appears to my remote view as being totally disinterested in actual policy beyond portraying the outcome as a ‘win’, and not pissing off the donor class funneling him cash. Trump was so deeply on the hook to Adelson for instance, that he wasted most of his term in matters unrelated to his constituents, who were long since done with the middle east, entirely. Jared seems to have run the entire policy realm, and he was probably amongst the worst possible of picks for his role, in almost every respect.

    Trump’s renewal / continuation of trade scams that predated his term were simply renamed to get the ‘win’ (USMCA) – the China trade settlement was exactly the same as what existed previously, with China buying discount raw materials from the US, and sending valuable finished goods into the USA. All the valuable manufacturing stayed in China.

    the U.S. Chamber dropped their pretense and admitted they were now supporting democrats because the CoC effort can only succeed by destroying Main St

    Main St middle America is already destroyed, its not a potential fate. I have traveled extensively across middle America for work, and the more rural and the more distant from a central hub city you are, what you will find are vacant downtowns, unsanitary trailers and sun-bleached, ramshackle decay, which usually dates back to the 80’s at the latest, because that was the onset of the great betrayal of the American people.

    The CoC, in my opinion, is associating itself with the Democrats to large degree due to the divergent paths that the two parties degenerated into.

    The Democrats were voluntarily purged of rural and Southern Blue dogs who moved to the CoC Republicans, which left a vacuum that was filled by a volatile, ad-hoc coalition of the gender-confused, racialists demanding ethnic spoils, foreign nationals who had gained US citizenship but retained their loyalty to their alien population.

    Unlike the Boomer masses that would send Republicans back into office gleefully after sending their grand-kids jobs to Mexico and China, the Democrat ad-hoc coalition all wanted a payoff, and were not a ‘cheap date’.

    The Democrat coalition, which consists of alien allegiances to a large degree within its base, want to extract racial spoils, and although Biden is a weak link, they will eventually succeed in finishing off the American voters they despise, who were betrayed by their party and leadership, a long time ago.

    If you watch any Republican aligned media, you will see who they rely on for votes, during the commercial breaks – ads for free catheters, free hearing aids, hurry-canes, medicare supplement plans to ensure “I get all the benefits I am entitled to!”, ”Ive fallen and I cant get up”, irritable bowel concoctions..etc..

    The CoC is jumping ship because the free hearing aid crowd is not long for this world, and they want to align with fellow looters, for mutual profit.

    The sad reality is that NONE of this would have been possible without the treason of the Republican’s who outsourced the economic strength of the nation for cash, and in-sourced endless cheap foreign labor to suppress domestic wages for their donor class. There is no way to make a ‘nation’ out of fractious peoples, or to rebuild a state through the same organization that caused its collapse.

    • Replies: @A123
  51. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Matra

    Wokeness is just the next logical step from political correctness

    Yes, that’s correct.

    which in turn came from the leftism of the previous half century or so.

    That part however is incorrect. Political correctness was a rejection of the leftism of the previous half century or so. It was a betrayal of the leftism of the previous half century or so. It was part of the process by which the Left was taken over by corporate interests and cynical opportunists who were opposed to the leftism of the previous half century.

    The end result was the effective destruction of the old leftist parties (the Democrats, the British Labour Party, the Australian Labor Party). Those parties now exist in name only.

    Very few white male leftists had a problem with the havoc caused by PC

    Nonsense. Plenty of white male leftists had a very big problem with PC. But we lost the struggle for control of the old leftist parties and we were then disenfranchised by those parties. We became politically homeless.

    I agree that there were some white male leftists who went along with the change, either through opportunism or cowardice. But there were plenty who were very very unhappy about the rise of PC.

    Maybe they genuinely cared more about economics & just gave lip service to the identity stuff thinking it would play itself out. If so, then they were as naive as the GOP-voting conservatives who fall for the family values talking points brought out before each election.

    Yes, there was a certain naïvete. On both the left and the right a lot of people assumed that the identity politics was so crazy that it would burn itself out . A lot of people failed to understand that identity politics was being pushed by very rich, very powerful, very ruthless interest groups. And a lot of people failed to predict that the PC madness would build up so much internal momentum.

    I think you’d have to be close to 75 to remember a time when the left’s movers & shakers cared more about economic than cultural/racial issues.

    I can remember such a time and I’m nowhere near 75.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  52. anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @dfordoom

    I was thinking about examples such as the Civil Rights movement and the anti-war movement of the 60s both of which were to some degree successful in changing government policy by means which did not include guns or a direct reliance on the ballot box.

    Bollocks.

    Both movements had their “good side” and their “bad side” playing off against each other. Expendable cut-outs did the violence while the ‘good side’ stood off and feigned alarm. Those great TV moment marches were all staged and planned in advance for photo ops, too. The real legislative work – relying on the ballot box – was rigged up in quiet back rooms.

  53. Wokeness and political correctness are simply the collective will of organized jewry.

    We have been taken over by neo-Bolshevik tyrants. I don’t think the electoral process has any legitimacy now….not that it had much before.

    But now it’s just pedal to the metal anti-white jewing.

    The GOP will do nothing to fight back because a significant amount of their funding comes from small hat donors, and also the GOP fears the media. And the intelligence agencies likely have compromising material on most of the GOP, as well as the Supreme Court and all other positions of influence.

    You can’t vote your way out of communism.

    However…keep in mind that one day the Soviet Union just went bellyup…..crashed under the weight of its’ own bullshit.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  54. dfordoom says: • Website
    @V. K. Ovelund

    I think you’ll find that there are just as many people on the left who are politically homeless.

    Yes but that’s not what the poll said.

    Polls have to be regarded sceptically because many of the terms employed are entirely meaningless. Liberal and conservative have no meaning whatsoever. Being a liberal does not make you a leftist and being a leftist does not make you a liberal. You can identify as a liberal and be a socialist, or a free-marketeer. Conservative embraces everything from the Religious Right to atheist libertarians.

    These polls do not distinguish between economic liberals and social liberals. They do not distinguish between social conservatives and economic rightists.

    And most people who identify as liberal or conservative could not give you a coherent explanation of what these terms mean.

    Also many people who identify as liberals today are in fact totalitarians. And some self-identified conservatives are totalitarians as well. The British Conservative Party today is a totalitarian party.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  55. @dfordoom

    And most people who identify as liberal or conservative could not give you a coherent explanation of what these terms mean.

    Ask em where they get their news. Then you know which side they are on. That’s all that matters anyway. This is the Spanish Civil War.

    Unless we find a way to separate.

    • Agree: V. K. Ovelund
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  56. @Robert Dolan

    Your remarks are well taken.

    However…keep in mind that one day the Soviet Union just went bellyup…..crashed under the weight of its’ own bullshit.

    I don’t think we have long to wait. I hate to say this out loud because hardly anybody agrees with me. I think a currency crisis will deliver the Coup de gras to Imperial Washington. What’s next for those of us in the belly of the beast is a deep deep deep depression. “Things” will not sort themselves out untill we are eating regular and living indoors.

    I advocate for separation given present circumstances. But the death of King Dollar will change everything.

    • Replies: @V. K. Ovelund
  57. @WorkingClass

    But the death of King Dollar will change everything.

    For the better, I think.

    The death of King Dollar will be disruptive. Disruption is seldom comfortable. However, the death’s chief effect will be to wipe out the U.S. trade deficit.

    With King Dollar dead, we Americans will either need to make more of our own stuff (as you and I and your father prefer) or produce more of what the Chinese and others want.

    This will leave Americans a little poorer. Insofar as the trade deficit and the defense budget are roughly the same size—each about 3.5 percent of GDP—we could halve the blow by halving defense.

    Even if one subtracts services and public administration entirely from GDP, leaving only agriculture, mining, manufacturing, transport, construction and so on, the trade deficit does not much exceed 10 percent.

    Some commenters keep misanalyzing this from the demand side. It’s the supply side that governs.

    In short, King Dollar will probably die, but AE is mistaken in my opinion regarding the armageddon that will ensue. Armageddon in the U.S. is ethnic, not monetary. Ethnically, white European gentiles have dropped from 85 to 45 percent of U.S. births in 60 years. Monetarily, the shortfall is more modest. Monetarily, it will be all right.

  58. Curle says:
    @Wency

    And the one who succeeded the gay molester became a pot lobbyist after babbling something about the Pope. But, the very worst was the one succeeding him. That guy took the side of creeps trying to tear down civil war statutes over those seeking to preserve their heritage. That guy should never see the inside of an Republican Party event ever.

  59. @Wency

    As far as I can tell, Gingrich is as sleazy as they come. Not to mention an example of that beloved Republican archetype, the self-righteous hypocrite. At a personal level, I wouldn’t trust the guy as far as I could throw him.

    Name the last Republican that did anything serious to reform welfare.

    I’m not a fan of the GOP but Gingrich doesn’t deserve to thrown in with them.

    He is a nuanced thinker unlike 99% of the GOP. They complain about welfare and then sit on their hands for their entire term.

  60. @dfordoom

    Nonsense. Plenty of white male leftists had a very big problem with PC. But we lost the struggle for control of the old leftist parties and we were then disenfranchised by those parties. We became politically homeless.

    Yes I have met those leftists. They hate PC so much that they don’t do anything about it. Same with the unions. Sure they complain about PC behind the scenes but then DO NOTHING and let the globalists dominate the left. They throw in with traitorous leftists knowing full well that the country might be sold out but hey our wages will be protected…..right?

    White male leftists are the absolute worst. Most only got into politics to get laid.

    They are the guys that got bullied in high school and now identify with an anti-White alliance. They grovel to women and minorities in hope of getting revenge against strong Whites and of course a bigger piece of the pie. It rarely works out for them because the entire modern left alliance is built on the assumption that White men are the problem. They spend their lives lying and living in frustration because the revolution never comes.

    Yes, there was a certain naïvete. On both the left and the right a lot of people assumed that the identity politics was so crazy that it would burn itself out

    What happened is that both left and right assumed that identify politics would burn out because both sides believed that race didn’t exist. That is why both sides at one time supported massive amounts of government spending and affirmative action to create middle class Blacks. In their minds the ship just had to be tilted to the other side and everything would work out. So even traditional conservatives supported open discrimination by the government to make up for what they believed was Bad Whites holding back Blacks. Traditional conservatives even today *want to believe* that race doesn’t exist and there must be some ‘Merica based formula that will turn Bantu into Protestant Swedes.

    • Replies: @iffen
  61. iffen says:
    @John Johnson

    White male leftists are the absolute worst. Most only got into politics to get laid.

    You write this as if it were a bad thing.

    • LOL: dfordoom
    • Replies: @John Johnson
  62. dfordoom says: • Website
    @WorkingClass

    And most people who identify as liberal or conservative could not give you a coherent explanation of what these terms mean.

    Ask em where they get their news. Then you know which side they are on.

    Most people are only just capable of tying their own shoelaces. Where they get their news from usually reflects a moronic tribal political identity that has been outdated for half a century.

    Most people don’t actually know which side they’re on because they don’t understand the issues and they don’t comprehend the fact that they’re caught in the middle of a class war and they don’t understand that the political parties for which they vote hate and despise them.

    That’s all that matters anyway. This is the Spanish Civil War.

    No it isn’t. To have a civil war you need two sides capable of waging war, and willing to do so. That’s not the case today. The closest you’re going to get to a civil war is a bunch of right-wingers LARPing about it on the internet.

  63. A123 says:
    @Trial by Wombat

    President Trump could have done the right thing, and – I suspect – he knew the right thing to do.

    What Trump should have done = Close the Southern (3rd world) border to all traffic

    Could Trump have single handedly closed the border?

    Evidence points to “NO”. Do you remember Trump’s first border action, which was smeared as The Muslim Ban? That was defeated by the Deep State. A much more impactful Southern Border closure would have met more intense resistance.

    When Trump obtained office the traitorous GOP(e) still held many seats. The number of MAGA judges was zero. With GOP(e) Senators needed for the confirmation process he was only able to obtain confirmations by horse trading some of the cabinet and judicial appointments. This is why Jeff Judas Sessions betrayal cut so deep.

    MAGA v2.0 started by routing large numbers of GOP(e) Globalists from their seats. The next step is claiming the House in 2022. This will fund MAGA priorities. Remember that the GOP(e) blocked border construction by denying funding for that purpose.

    Continuing to target non-MAGA establishment weasels like Mitt Romney is necessary. However, please do not unfairly smear the new generation of MAGA Republicans with the crimes of prior generation GOP(e) swamp scam. Those whom you oppose would declare themselves DNC today. Some have even done so openly, such as Charlie Crist in Florida.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @Trial by Wombat
  64. A123 says:
    @dfordoom

    A direct reliance on the electoral system or a direct reliance on a political party will both fail because there is no way to prevent politicians and political parties from betraying you unless you can put extreme pressure on them by non-electoral means.

    This direct pressure is happening. It is targeting friendly (and swing) states and counties first. Various contingents creating 2nd Amendment sanctuaries and strong anti-riot laws is proof of that. Red pressure in Red America is already working.

    If the residents of Minneapolis and Portland want to destroy their own cities, they can. While Blue Riots invading Red Towns have had tragic consequences, the actual number of such transgressions is actually quite low. Blue riots burning down Blue employers depleting the supply of Blue jobs is a huge problem for the DNC. The WUHAN-19 “relief” cannot continue much longer. Once that flow of cash stops, Blue cities are going to be hit by low tax collections and high unemployment. Blue pressure in Blue anti-America will soon backfire.

    The necessary pressure will continue to build over time.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @A123
  65. @Liberty Mike

    Mr Liberty Mike says:

    You neglected to include the other rodentine Republican Party scum senator representing the state of Utah: Mittens

    I say:

    Willard Pratt Mitt Romney is an evil, baby boomer, money-grubbing politician whore for the rancid and treasonous JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.

    I became aware of my error in not naming Romney when discussing the rancid human filth Republican Party whores in the US Senate and I spent the night stalking about the moors of the portion of old England named New in a howling rain storm strong enough to require a light jacket and I raged at the remiss and then I remembered I didn’t mention Teddy Cruz or Marco Rubio or that dirtbag from Maine called Collins and she is such a dirtbag politician whore you could grow potatoes out of her armpits.

    Ann Coulter used to think Mitt Romney was a hero, but Mitt Romney never meant shit to me.

    Tweets from 2015:

  66. Realist says:
    @dfordoom

    But you have to do it by non-violent means.

    We are past that. Any anti-government protests will be met with the Deep State shock troops…Antifa and BLM. The good old days are long gone.

  67. @iffen

    White male leftists are the absolute worst. Most only got into politics to get laid.

    You write this as if it were a bad thing.

    It actually is because it doesn’t work for most of them.

    The White leftist woman sleeps with the jerk boyfriend and then complains about him to the leftist man-boy at the protest.

    To bed liberal/leftist women you need some non-liberal vibes.

  68. Tweets from 2015:

  69. A123 says:
    @A123

    — Addendum —

    Here is a good example of SJW failing due to pressure in what should be a very Blue college town: (1)

    The measure, Proposition B, serves as a reinstatement of Austin’s public camping ban. Summary results from the Travis County Clerk show 85,830 (57%) people voted in favor of the measure, while 64,409 (42%) voted against the measure.

    In addition to the camping ban, the proposition would make it a criminal offense to ask for money in certain areas and times “or for solicitation in a public area that is deemed aggressive in manner.”

    PEACE 😇
    __________

    (1) https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/austin-votes-to-reinstate-public-camping-ban-in-urban-areas/ar-BB1gi6lt

  70. @Wency

    So I suppose for anyone living through all that at the time, the moral of the story is: if a Republican Speaker comes around, hide your kids, hide your wife, and hide your husband too, because they’re raping everybody in here. But yeah, great institution, the GOP.

    Comedy gold. Sadly, all good comedy is a reflection of the truth.

    We have been trained to look past the fact that the two corrupt parties are in fact private businesses. This was so inherent to the Federalist construct that it largely went ‘unnoticed in plain sight’ – to most – that a pack of ‘representatives’ unconstrained by term limits became defacto seat owners, and proceeded to sell their services to the highest bidder. This is not a bug – its the Hamiltonian feature, btw.

    If you ignore this reality, not much really makes sense – you meander about, ideologically seeking to justify abuse by the ‘good guys’ while condemning the same conduct by the ‘bad guys’. Once you recognize the “Party as a private business” model, you can look back at the House Banking Scandal / Congressional Post Office scandal as testing the waters, like a child with an inflatable pool toy, slowly acclimatizing to the frigid waters of his new swampy domain, before moving out into open water.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  71. @Trial by Wombat

    The GOP US House “leaders” are just bagmen for GOP donors. GOP donors push mass immigration.

  72. @A123

    Could Trump have single handedly closed the border?

    Evidence points to “NO”. Do you remember Trump’s first border action, which was smeared as The Muslim Ban? That was defeated by the Deep State. A much more impactful Southern Border closure would have met more intense resistance.

    I respect your right to what you believe, however where there is a will, there is a way. You inform the Mexican govt that either they seal the border from illegal crossing, or we respond by-

    1) refusing importation of all products into the USA
    2) Invading into a 5 mile salient within Mexico, to establish a holding pen for alien trespassers, outside of US territory.
    3) We move US troops 1/4 mile into Mexico to hold the border, with our own troops, on their soil.

    You don’t meet an invasion with work permits, you meet it with necessary force. The reason that Middle East detainees can be held without judicial review in Cuba for decades with no trial is because the S.C. rules that it has no jurisdiction.

    If you are not going to fight to secure and seal your own national border with a failed 3rd world state sending its swarms into your interior, what are you going to fight for?.. to ‘secure the oil’ inside of Syria?

    Trump’s border appointments were notable as CoC / Koch approved flunkies, and his admin handed out approx 750,000 work permits to economic migrants, which was not required by any law. They were allowed into the USA to serve as permitted cheap labor.

    The ‘strategy’, in my view, was to similar to the Trump admin refusal to turn off the issuance of H-1b Visas during the Covid unemployment, until only weeks before the election when it became clear that it was costing him in the polling.

    Trump and/or his appointees did not want to interfere with the operations of the maquiladora factories that were set up on the Mexican side of the border to bypass American workers and wages, and they did not want to shut down H-1b Visa approval, because these policies are non-negotiable to the Republican elites and donor class.

  73. anon[317] • Disclaimer says:

    I respect your right to what you believe, however where there is a will, there is a way. You inform the Mexican govt that either they seal the border from illegal crossing, or we respond by-

    1) refusing importation of all products into the USA
    2) Invading into a 5 mile salient within Mexico, to establish a holding pen for alien trespassers, outside of US territory.
    3) We move US troops 1/4 mile into Mexico to hold the border, with our own troops, on their soil.

    • Replies: @anon
  74. anon[365] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Your usual assignment is monitoring message boards, I see.
    Virtually no one posts meme’s here for future reference,
    but your application of ‘rules for radicals’ is noted.

    • Replies: @anon
  75. anon[162] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Ok, Boomer!

    lolz

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