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Despite Joe Biden being a better candidate than Hillary Clinton–he beat Bernie Sanders 65%-35% in a two-person race while she only beat Sanders 55%-45% in the same situation–Donald Trump’s best chance at reelection is that Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:

The subsequent electoral map shows in red states where Trump’s net favorability is positive, in blue states where Biden’s net favorability is positive, in light brown states where both candidates’ net favorability is negative, and in invisible states where both candidates’ net favorability is positive:

Ranked-choice voting might improve things, but it would fundamentally change the political dynamic from one where people vote against the person who scares them the most into one where people vote for the person they’d knock on doors for. From the Uniparty’s perspective, that is catastrophic and so it will never happen.

Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:

 
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  1. Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:

    Biden’s negatives are going to get worse. Two key problems:

    -1- When Biden picks a VP it will offend one or more factions in the Left/Democrat coalition. Any Offense = Aggression. Aggression = Dogmatic Response.

    -2- The “Hide Biden” strategy was made possible by a crowded nominating field. The 1-on-1 race will focus voter attention on Biden. His limited and declining mental condition will scare a huge number of swing voters.

    Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:

    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    • Agree: Indiana Jack
    • Replies: @Indiana Jack
    @A123

    The two problems that you mention are closely related. One thing that is helping Biden among independent voters is that he is a known quantity who is seems to be moderate in many of his views. It is likely that whoever he selects for his running mate will be further to the left than he is. As Biden's mental decline becomes more evident, it should be easy for Trump and the Republicans to highlight the more radical elements on the left and to portray Biden as someone was moderate in the past but will now be a puppet of these elements and of his running mate. Several commentators have noted that Biden has been moving left recently (even supporting studies to look at reparations for slavery), so he is giving them ammunition to work with.

    Replies: @Realist

    , @Adam Smith
    @A123

    https://pics.awwmemes.com/dont-settle-for-the-lesser-of-two-evils-vote-for-63081501.png

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    , @indocon
    @A123

    The blue states on thus map are the hardest of the hard left states I guess, most of them totally makes sense except one, Rhode Island. It is full of middle-class ethnic white waters, has not being overrun by new demographics, and I believe was the state where Trump improved the most over Romney.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @A123

    Chthulu is my choice. This election reflects the struggle of the Elder Gods and the Outer Gods.

    We know Chthulu’s plans for us. We don’t know the plans of Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, Nyarlothotep, et al. Compared with these Chthulu is a pussy cat!

    Vote Chthulu! The doom you know is better than the doom you cannot imagine!

    , @TG
    @A123

    I always thought that Cthulhu's campaign slogan was "Why settle for the lesser evil?" :)

    Replies: @A123

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @A123


    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

     

    https://youtu.be/Q8hDsIoEFYw?t=144
    , @ChrisZ
    @A123

    That’s a terrifically slick graphic, and a slogan that will resonate with a lot of undecideds.

    I count 21 stars adorning the candidate’s bulbous mantle. Any esoteric reason for that number? Or is it just the number of states that constitute his base?

  2. anon[387] • Disclaimer says:

    The subsequent electoral map shows in red states where Trump’s net favorability is positive, in blue states where Biden’s net favorability is positive, in light brown states where both candidates’ net favorability is negative, and in invisible states where both candidates’ net favorability is positive:

    I cannot see the invisible states. Please fix your map.

    • Replies: @Audacious Epigone
    @anon

    There are no such states.

    Replies: @216

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon


    I cannot see the invisible states.
     
    Uhhh, because they're freaking invisible?

    I jest, but I can see, as per A.E. that even in the "current era" no States are overall THAT stupid.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @anon


    I cannot see the invisible states. Please fix your map.
     
    AE's talking about Lake Wobegon, where all the candidates are above average.
  3. @anon
    The subsequent electoral map shows in red states where Trump’s net favorability is positive, in blue states where Biden’s net favorability is positive, in light brown states where both candidates’ net favorability is negative, and in invisible states where both candidates’ net favorability is positive:

    I cannot see the invisible states. Please fix your map.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    There are no such states.

    • Replies: @216
    @Audacious Epigone

    An indicator of the coarsening of society.

  4. @Audacious Epigone
    @anon

    There are no such states.

    Replies: @216

    An indicator of the coarsening of society.

  5. @A123

    Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:
     
    Biden's negatives are going to get worse. Two key problems:

    -1- When Biden picks a VP it will offend one or more factions in the Left/Democrat coalition. Any Offense = Aggression. Aggression = Dogmatic Response.

    -2- The "Hide Biden" strategy was made possible by a crowded nominating field. The 1-on-1 race will focus voter attention on Biden. His limited and declining mental condition will scare a huge number of swing voters.

    Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:
     
    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--Uoi_MqUz--/t_Preview/b_rgb:ffffff,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1535684904/production/designs/3089297_0.jpg

    Replies: @Indiana Jack, @Adam Smith, @indocon, @Jus' Sayin'..., @TG, @Hypnotoad666, @ChrisZ

    The two problems that you mention are closely related. One thing that is helping Biden among independent voters is that he is a known quantity who is seems to be moderate in many of his views. It is likely that whoever he selects for his running mate will be further to the left than he is. As Biden’s mental decline becomes more evident, it should be easy for Trump and the Republicans to highlight the more radical elements on the left and to portray Biden as someone was moderate in the past but will now be a puppet of these elements and of his running mate. Several commentators have noted that Biden has been moving left recently (even supporting studies to look at reparations for slavery), so he is giving them ammunition to work with.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Indiana Jack


    One thing that is helping Biden among independent voters is that he is a known quantity who is seems to be moderate in many of his views.
     
    The one thing that is helping Biden is that many independent voters are stupid. Biden is not moderate...he is brain dead.

    Replies: @Adam Smith, @TG

  6. The ideal outcome for the current Ruling Class (including the Oligarchy) is for a divided government. I’d say their favoured situation would be for Gropey to scrape over the line, and for the GOP to hold the Senate at least, or even both chambers. This would be handy for Biden, who could tell Bernie to “Take a hike, Mac!” with his unrealistic demands.

    For everyone else, the total obliteration of one Party would be a superior outcome. Either Trumpism or DemCorp would be seriously wounded, allowing fresh blood and new ideas to take hold. My gut feeling, though, is that Trump will rally late, and the elites will get their stalemate.

    • Replies: @216
    @Nodwink

    It would be incredibly bizzare for Biden to win the Presidency, but for the Democrats to lose the House and fail to take the Senate. A lot of moderates would have to split their tickets.

    More likely, Trump comes back to a Dem Senate in addition to a Dem House.

    Will he be able to pull off a "reverse Mitterand" in 2022?

    Replies: @Nodwink

  7. @anon
    The subsequent electoral map shows in red states where Trump’s net favorability is positive, in blue states where Biden’s net favorability is positive, in light brown states where both candidates’ net favorability is negative, and in invisible states where both candidates’ net favorability is positive:

    I cannot see the invisible states. Please fix your map.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    I cannot see the invisible states.

    Uhhh, because they’re freaking invisible?

    I jest, but I can see, as per A.E. that even in the “current era” no States are overall THAT stupid.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Not stupid, just mythical. Call them the Unicorn States of America.

    https://plnami.blob.core.windows.net/media/2012/05/gaybama0510_image2.jpg

  8. @Indiana Jack
    @A123

    The two problems that you mention are closely related. One thing that is helping Biden among independent voters is that he is a known quantity who is seems to be moderate in many of his views. It is likely that whoever he selects for his running mate will be further to the left than he is. As Biden's mental decline becomes more evident, it should be easy for Trump and the Republicans to highlight the more radical elements on the left and to portray Biden as someone was moderate in the past but will now be a puppet of these elements and of his running mate. Several commentators have noted that Biden has been moving left recently (even supporting studies to look at reparations for slavery), so he is giving them ammunition to work with.

    Replies: @Realist

    One thing that is helping Biden among independent voters is that he is a known quantity who is seems to be moderate in many of his views.

    The one thing that is helping Biden is that many independent voters are stupid. Biden is not moderate…he is brain dead.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
    @Realist

    "If my brain is no anymore not work, could I do this?"

    https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-6490-2.jpg

    Biden then began to go through all the common farm animals and the sounds they make...

    Replies: @Realist, @Nodwink

    , @TG
    @Realist

    Biden is brain dead, this is both true and irrelevant. Team Biden is a bunch of vicious corrupt corporate lickspittles. The senility or lack thereof of the public figurehead has no bearing on policy.

    Donald Trump is Bozo the Clown, but (Team) Biden is Caligula.

    Replies: @Realist

  9. @Achmed E. Newman
    @anon


    I cannot see the invisible states.
     
    Uhhh, because they're freaking invisible?

    I jest, but I can see, as per A.E. that even in the "current era" no States are overall THAT stupid.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Not stupid, just mythical. Call them the Unicorn States of America.

  10. The fact that both parties in 2020 can’t seem to come up with capable and competitive younger people to run for President suggests that political talent will become increasingly hard to find as America’s population rolls over demographically into a mass of fungible mystery meat.

    • Agree: Ian Smith
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @advancedatheist

    Compare the senile Joe Biden with the young, vigorous, and eloquent John F. Kennedy.

    How far we have fallen.

    Replies: @Oswald Spengler

    , @Charlotte
    @advancedatheist

    Maybe the capable young people have views too far outside the Overton Window to ever be welcomed by either party. What really struck me about Trump, back in 2015, was how basically sane and normal he seemed on subjects like the Iraq war, immigration, and so forth. The hysterical reactions he got just showed how far from reality acceptable rhetoric had become.

  11. Yahya K. says:

    The fact that both parties in 2020 can’t seem to come up with capable and competitive younger people to run for President suggests that political talent will become increasingly hard to find as America’s population rolls over demographically into a mass of fungible mystery meat.

    The white population will go down as a percentage, but will stay relatively fixed at 200 million in absolute terms. Demographics isn’t the problem, there is no shortage of talent.

    The problem is the amount of stooping and loss of dignity that comes from running a modern day Presedential campaign. Which self-respecting leader would go through the American primary system today? Would a De Gualle or a Lee Kuan Yew be willing to stand on the debate stage with Donald Trump?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Yahya K.


    The problem is the amount of stooping and loss of dignity that comes from running a modern day Presedential campaign.
     
    To succeed in modern politics you have to be as whore. So obviously modern politics attracts people who enjoy being whores. Not exactly the sort of people you want running the country.

    Televised debates between candidates are a disgusting and demeaning spectacle. No-one with an ounce of self-respect would submit to such crassness.

    Replies: @216

  12. @advancedatheist
    The fact that both parties in 2020 can't seem to come up with capable and competitive younger people to run for President suggests that political talent will become increasingly hard to find as America's population rolls over demographically into a mass of fungible mystery meat.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @Charlotte

    Compare the senile Joe Biden with the young, vigorous, and eloquent John F. Kennedy.

    How far we have fallen.

    • Replies: @Oswald Spengler
    @Justvisiting

    A few days ago, I was watching clips of one of the 1984 Reagan-Mondale debates and was amazed at the level of discourse, how serious both candidates were. But then again, thirty six years ago, this was still a serious country, with a (more or less) sane ruling class.

  13. @Yahya K.

    The fact that both parties in 2020 can’t seem to come up with capable and competitive younger people to run for President suggests that political talent will become increasingly hard to find as America’s population rolls over demographically into a mass of fungible mystery meat.
     
    The white population will go down as a percentage, but will stay relatively fixed at 200 million in absolute terms. Demographics isn’t the problem, there is no shortage of talent.

    The problem is the amount of stooping and loss of dignity that comes from running a modern day Presedential campaign. Which self-respecting leader would go through the American primary system today? Would a De Gualle or a Lee Kuan Yew be willing to stand on the debate stage with Donald Trump?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    The problem is the amount of stooping and loss of dignity that comes from running a modern day Presedential campaign.

    To succeed in modern politics you have to be as whore. So obviously modern politics attracts people who enjoy being whores. Not exactly the sort of people you want running the country.

    Televised debates between candidates are a disgusting and demeaning spectacle. No-one with an ounce of self-respect would submit to such crassness.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @216
    @dfordoom

    Does Australia have question time like the UK does?

    The "separation of powers" precludes this in the US, unless the President or each Majority/Minority Leader in Congress agreed voluntarily.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  14. 216 says:
    @Nodwink
    The ideal outcome for the current Ruling Class (including the Oligarchy) is for a divided government. I'd say their favoured situation would be for Gropey to scrape over the line, and for the GOP to hold the Senate at least, or even both chambers. This would be handy for Biden, who could tell Bernie to "Take a hike, Mac!" with his unrealistic demands.

    For everyone else, the total obliteration of one Party would be a superior outcome. Either Trumpism or DemCorp would be seriously wounded, allowing fresh blood and new ideas to take hold. My gut feeling, though, is that Trump will rally late, and the elites will get their stalemate.

    Replies: @216

    It would be incredibly bizzare for Biden to win the Presidency, but for the Democrats to lose the House and fail to take the Senate. A lot of moderates would have to split their tickets.

    More likely, Trump comes back to a Dem Senate in addition to a Dem House.

    Will he be able to pull off a “reverse Mitterand” in 2022?

    • Replies: @Nodwink
    @216

    There seems to be a real stench of defeat around Trump, and the Roger Stone thing may be an indication that The Donald himself sees the writing on the wall. I reckon he would have smashed Biden without corona.

  15. @dfordoom
    @Yahya K.


    The problem is the amount of stooping and loss of dignity that comes from running a modern day Presedential campaign.
     
    To succeed in modern politics you have to be as whore. So obviously modern politics attracts people who enjoy being whores. Not exactly the sort of people you want running the country.

    Televised debates between candidates are a disgusting and demeaning spectacle. No-one with an ounce of self-respect would submit to such crassness.

    Replies: @216

    Does Australia have question time like the UK does?

    The “separation of powers” precludes this in the US, unless the President or each Majority/Minority Leader in Congress agreed voluntarily.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @216


    Does Australia have question time like the UK does?
     
    Yep. I'm not sure if it works exactly the same way, but we do have it.
  16. @A123

    Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:
     
    Biden's negatives are going to get worse. Two key problems:

    -1- When Biden picks a VP it will offend one or more factions in the Left/Democrat coalition. Any Offense = Aggression. Aggression = Dogmatic Response.

    -2- The "Hide Biden" strategy was made possible by a crowded nominating field. The 1-on-1 race will focus voter attention on Biden. His limited and declining mental condition will scare a huge number of swing voters.

    Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:
     
    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--Uoi_MqUz--/t_Preview/b_rgb:ffffff,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1535684904/production/designs/3089297_0.jpg

    Replies: @Indiana Jack, @Adam Smith, @indocon, @Jus' Sayin'..., @TG, @Hypnotoad666, @ChrisZ

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Adam Smith

    At last, a candidate with authenticity!

  17. @Realist
    @Indiana Jack


    One thing that is helping Biden among independent voters is that he is a known quantity who is seems to be moderate in many of his views.
     
    The one thing that is helping Biden is that many independent voters are stupid. Biden is not moderate...he is brain dead.

    Replies: @Adam Smith, @TG

    “If my brain is no anymore not work, could I do this?”

    Biden then began to go through all the common farm animals and the sounds they make…

    • Replies: @Realist
    @Adam Smith


    Biden then began to go through all the common farm animals and the sounds they make…
     
    But they sounded real. LOL
    , @Nodwink
    @Adam Smith

    I assume this is about the cognitive test Trump took at Walter Reed. According to Mediaite, this is the test:


    Connecting lettered and numbered dots in order
    Drawing a cube
    Drawing a clock (These tasks are worth up to five points)
    Correctly identifying pictures of a lion, a rhinoceros, and a camel (up to 3 points)
    Recalling a list of five words (no points)
    Reading a list of numbers (2 points)
    Reading a list of letters (1 point)
    Counting backwards from 100 by sevens (3 points)
    Repeating the phrases “I only know that John is the one to help today” and “The cat always hid
    under the couch when dogs were in the room. (2 points)
    Explaining the similarities between objects like “train – bicycle” and “watch – ruler” (2 points)
    Recalling the five words from earlier in the test, in any order (5 points)
    Knowing where you are, and what the date, time, and day of the week are. (6 points!)

     

  18. @A123

    Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:
     
    Biden's negatives are going to get worse. Two key problems:

    -1- When Biden picks a VP it will offend one or more factions in the Left/Democrat coalition. Any Offense = Aggression. Aggression = Dogmatic Response.

    -2- The "Hide Biden" strategy was made possible by a crowded nominating field. The 1-on-1 race will focus voter attention on Biden. His limited and declining mental condition will scare a huge number of swing voters.

    Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:
     
    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--Uoi_MqUz--/t_Preview/b_rgb:ffffff,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1535684904/production/designs/3089297_0.jpg

    Replies: @Indiana Jack, @Adam Smith, @indocon, @Jus' Sayin'..., @TG, @Hypnotoad666, @ChrisZ

    The blue states on thus map are the hardest of the hard left states I guess, most of them totally makes sense except one, Rhode Island. It is full of middle-class ethnic white waters, has not being overrun by new demographics, and I believe was the state where Trump improved the most over Romney.

  19. @Adam Smith
    @Realist

    "If my brain is no anymore not work, could I do this?"

    https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-6490-2.jpg

    Biden then began to go through all the common farm animals and the sounds they make...

    Replies: @Realist, @Nodwink

    Biden then began to go through all the common farm animals and the sounds they make…

    But they sounded real. LOL

    • LOL: Adam Smith
  20. The coping is real in this comment section. Donald Trump and the Republican party have about a 1 in 100 chance of winning in November. You guys need to be debating whether or not Trump will be assassinated in the next 4 months, not whether he can win the election. He has presided over the greatest failure(s) in American history. And man, the headlines have been just devastating for right wingers lately… I strongly advise you to press your doctor about Thorazine injections if you actually believe Donald Trump can win. If you won’t, I fear what you might do to yourself and your “loved” ones when he loses…

    Biden – Duckworth 2020. For the return to the ’00s era of stability and sanity.

    • Troll: James Braxton
    • Replies: @anon
    @JohnPlywood

    You guys need to be debating whether or not Trump will be assassinated in the next 4 months,

    Why?

    , @Not my Economy
    @JohnPlywood


    You guys need to be debating whether or not Trump will be assassinated in the next 4 months,

     

    Lmao is that a threat

    Post physique
    , @Justvisiting
    @JohnPlywood

    Folks who follow politics look for clues in the months before an election. Often those clues fall far below the mass media radar.

    They usually take the form of upsets of incumbent politicians--as a way to see whether the electorate is moving to the left or to the right.

    Here we go:

    https://www.knoe.com/2020/07/12/jamie-mayo-concedes-monroe-mayoral-race/

    Heavily majority black city, nineteen year incumbent black mayor.

    White guy campaigns on law and order--and wins easily in a shocking upset.

    Hmmm--wonder what that might mean.....

  21. Another blow to Biden’s SJW Globalist DNC. Democrats are going to have to take responsibility for their actions. No federal assistance to repair the damage that Blue State and Blue City officials encouraged. (1)

    As Minnesota leaders pondered their next steps, it’s not yet clear what other sources of funds they may tap.

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) on Friday denied Gov. Tim Walz’s request for nearly $16 million in aid to help rebuild and repair structures in Minneapolis and St. Paul, many of them left in ruins by the riots and fires that erupted during protests of Floyd’s May 25 death while in Minneapolis police custody.

    How much revenue does a burned out business pay in property taxes? And, how many people does it employee?

    Go Woke, Go Broke!

    There are 4 months to go before the elections. The post riot suffering of Seattle and Minneapolis residents due to DNC negligence will also drive Biden’s negative % further, even though he is not directly responsible. No one wants to be the next victim of SJW mob injustice.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.startribune.com/with-fema-aid-to-rebuild-from-riots-denied-minnesota-looks-elsewhere/571731112/

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @A123

    I have been laughing at folks who claim Biden will never be nominated, and the Democrats will somehow replace him at their virtual convention.

    It is crazy, it could not happen--but this is the wacky year of 2020, the year of the impossible, so I guess we should not acknowledge senile Joe as the nominee until the deed has actually been done a month from now.

    Replies: @A123

  22. @A123
    Another blow to Biden's SJW Globalist DNC. Democrats are going to have to take responsibility for their actions. No federal assistance to repair the damage that Blue State and Blue City officials encouraged. (1)

    As Minnesota leaders pondered their next steps, it's not yet clear what other sources of funds they may tap.
    ...
    The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) on Friday denied Gov. Tim Walz’s request for nearly $16 million in aid to help rebuild and repair structures in Minneapolis and St. Paul, many of them left in ruins by the riots and fires that erupted during protests of Floyd’s May 25 death while in Minneapolis police custody.
     
    How much revenue does a burned out business pay in property taxes? And, how many people does it employee?

    Go Woke, Go Broke!

    There are 4 months to go before the elections. The post riot suffering of Seattle and Minneapolis residents due to DNC negligence will also drive Biden's negative % further, even though he is not directly responsible. No one wants to be the next victim of SJW mob injustice.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    (1) https://www.startribune.com/with-fema-aid-to-rebuild-from-riots-denied-minnesota-looks-elsewhere/571731112/

    Replies: @Justvisiting

    I have been laughing at folks who claim Biden will never be nominated, and the Democrats will somehow replace him at their virtual convention.

    It is crazy, it could not happen–but this is the wacky year of 2020, the year of the impossible, so I guess we should not acknowledge senile Joe as the nominee until the deed has actually been done a month from now.

    • Replies: @A123
    @Justvisiting


    I have been laughing at folks who claim Biden will never be nominated, and the Democrats will somehow replace him at their virtual convention.
     
    I too am skeptical. I will not count it as a "done deal" until he is actually selected at the convention.

    Biden is horrifyingly awful as a candidate. However, I do not see any practical way for the DNC to pick a better option. Sanders is Heir Apparent to the nomination. If Biden steps down, Sanders will take the #1 delegate count to the convention.

    Can you imagine the schism that would be created by jumping over Sanders to pick someone else?

    PEACE 😇
  23. @Justvisiting
    @A123

    I have been laughing at folks who claim Biden will never be nominated, and the Democrats will somehow replace him at their virtual convention.

    It is crazy, it could not happen--but this is the wacky year of 2020, the year of the impossible, so I guess we should not acknowledge senile Joe as the nominee until the deed has actually been done a month from now.

    Replies: @A123

    I have been laughing at folks who claim Biden will never be nominated, and the Democrats will somehow replace him at their virtual convention.

    I too am skeptical. I will not count it as a “done deal” until he is actually selected at the convention.

    Biden is horrifyingly awful as a candidate. However, I do not see any practical way for the DNC to pick a better option. Sanders is Heir Apparent to the nomination. If Biden steps down, Sanders will take the #1 delegate count to the convention.

    Can you imagine the schism that would be created by jumping over Sanders to pick someone else?

    PEACE 😇

  24. @advancedatheist
    The fact that both parties in 2020 can't seem to come up with capable and competitive younger people to run for President suggests that political talent will become increasingly hard to find as America's population rolls over demographically into a mass of fungible mystery meat.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @Charlotte

    Maybe the capable young people have views too far outside the Overton Window to ever be welcomed by either party. What really struck me about Trump, back in 2015, was how basically sane and normal he seemed on subjects like the Iraq war, immigration, and so forth. The hysterical reactions he got just showed how far from reality acceptable rhetoric had become.

  25. @A123

    Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:
     
    Biden's negatives are going to get worse. Two key problems:

    -1- When Biden picks a VP it will offend one or more factions in the Left/Democrat coalition. Any Offense = Aggression. Aggression = Dogmatic Response.

    -2- The "Hide Biden" strategy was made possible by a crowded nominating field. The 1-on-1 race will focus voter attention on Biden. His limited and declining mental condition will scare a huge number of swing voters.

    Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:
     
    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--Uoi_MqUz--/t_Preview/b_rgb:ffffff,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1535684904/production/designs/3089297_0.jpg

    Replies: @Indiana Jack, @Adam Smith, @indocon, @Jus' Sayin'..., @TG, @Hypnotoad666, @ChrisZ

    Chthulu is my choice. This election reflects the struggle of the Elder Gods and the Outer Gods.

    We know Chthulu’s plans for us. We don’t know the plans of Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, Nyarlothotep, et al. Compared with these Chthulu is a pussy cat!

    Vote Chthulu! The doom you know is better than the doom you cannot imagine!

  26. @A123

    Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:
     
    Biden's negatives are going to get worse. Two key problems:

    -1- When Biden picks a VP it will offend one or more factions in the Left/Democrat coalition. Any Offense = Aggression. Aggression = Dogmatic Response.

    -2- The "Hide Biden" strategy was made possible by a crowded nominating field. The 1-on-1 race will focus voter attention on Biden. His limited and declining mental condition will scare a huge number of swing voters.

    Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:
     
    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--Uoi_MqUz--/t_Preview/b_rgb:ffffff,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1535684904/production/designs/3089297_0.jpg

    Replies: @Indiana Jack, @Adam Smith, @indocon, @Jus' Sayin'..., @TG, @Hypnotoad666, @ChrisZ

    I always thought that Cthulhu’s campaign slogan was “Why settle for the lesser evil?” 🙂

    • Replies: @A123
    @TG


    I always thought that Cthulhu’s campaign slogan was “Why settle for the lesser evil?”
     
    Not only is Cthulhu the True God... Cthulhu runs a modern and dynamic presidential campaign including:

    -- Multiple slogans
    -- Consuming social media censors
    -- Inflicting insanity on followers of other campaigns

    Trigglypuff is a symptom of opposing Cthulhu. What other possible explanation could there be for this?
    .
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ux37pBcVTSk/VydQnXm5IvI/AAAAAAAA5p4/5sbC7V2DGlQXMuW8cSCtkzTTcQpcfiaSgCLcB/s400/TRIGGLYPUFF.gif
    .
    CTHULHU 2020 👾

  27. @Realist
    @Indiana Jack


    One thing that is helping Biden among independent voters is that he is a known quantity who is seems to be moderate in many of his views.
     
    The one thing that is helping Biden is that many independent voters are stupid. Biden is not moderate...he is brain dead.

    Replies: @Adam Smith, @TG

    Biden is brain dead, this is both true and irrelevant. Team Biden is a bunch of vicious corrupt corporate lickspittles. The senility or lack thereof of the public figurehead has no bearing on policy.

    Donald Trump is Bozo the Clown, but (Team) Biden is Caligula.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @TG


    The senility or lack thereof of the public figurehead has no bearing on policy.
     
    Agree. Both parties are under the control of the Deep State. But what is disturbing is that the general public would vote for either figurehead...especially a brain dead one.
  28. res says:

    AE, could you do a country map showing the Trump-Biden net favorability by state? Perhaps red-blue shaded by magnitude? I think that would help us see what the battleground states might be. Pretty please? ; )

    It might also be interesting to see how well that correlates with polling differentials by state.

    • Agree: LondonBob
  29. @TG
    @A123

    I always thought that Cthulhu's campaign slogan was "Why settle for the lesser evil?" :)

    Replies: @A123

    I always thought that Cthulhu’s campaign slogan was “Why settle for the lesser evil?”

    Not only is Cthulhu the True God… Cthulhu runs a modern and dynamic presidential campaign including:

    — Multiple slogans
    — Consuming social media censors
    — Inflicting insanity on followers of other campaigns

    Trigglypuff is a symptom of opposing Cthulhu. What other possible explanation could there be for this?
    ..
    CTHULHU 2020 👾

  30. @216
    @dfordoom

    Does Australia have question time like the UK does?

    The "separation of powers" precludes this in the US, unless the President or each Majority/Minority Leader in Congress agreed voluntarily.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Does Australia have question time like the UK does?

    Yep. I’m not sure if it works exactly the same way, but we do have it.

  31. @A123

    Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:
     
    Biden's negatives are going to get worse. Two key problems:

    -1- When Biden picks a VP it will offend one or more factions in the Left/Democrat coalition. Any Offense = Aggression. Aggression = Dogmatic Response.

    -2- The "Hide Biden" strategy was made possible by a crowded nominating field. The 1-on-1 race will focus voter attention on Biden. His limited and declining mental condition will scare a huge number of swing voters.

    Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:
     
    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--Uoi_MqUz--/t_Preview/b_rgb:ffffff,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1535684904/production/designs/3089297_0.jpg

    Replies: @Indiana Jack, @Adam Smith, @indocon, @Jus' Sayin'..., @TG, @Hypnotoad666, @ChrisZ

    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

  32. @Adam Smith
    @A123

    https://pics.awwmemes.com/dont-settle-for-the-lesser-of-two-evils-vote-for-63081501.png

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    At last, a candidate with authenticity!

  33. @TG
    @Realist

    Biden is brain dead, this is both true and irrelevant. Team Biden is a bunch of vicious corrupt corporate lickspittles. The senility or lack thereof of the public figurehead has no bearing on policy.

    Donald Trump is Bozo the Clown, but (Team) Biden is Caligula.

    Replies: @Realist

    The senility or lack thereof of the public figurehead has no bearing on policy.

    Agree. Both parties are under the control of the Deep State. But what is disturbing is that the general public would vote for either figurehead…especially a brain dead one.

  34. One problem with the “unfavorable” metric is that it fails to indicate why a voter has that opinion.

    For example, Ann Coulter has an unfavorable view of Trump because he is still letting Mexican rapists into the country. I doubt that means she will be voting for Biden. Likewise, a lot of leftists are “unfavorable” on Biden because they think he is not sufficiently socialist.

    Respondents who are unfavorable or favorable to both candidates seem mostly like noise in predicting who will win.

  35. @JohnPlywood
    The coping is real in this comment section. Donald Trump and the Republican party have about a 1 in 100 chance of winning in November. You guys need to be debating whether or not Trump will be assassinated in the next 4 months, not whether he can win the election. He has presided over the greatest failure(s) in American history. And man, the headlines have been just devastating for right wingers lately... I strongly advise you to press your doctor about Thorazine injections if you actually believe Donald Trump can win. If you won't, I fear what you might do to yourself and your "loved" ones when he loses...

    Biden - Duckworth 2020. For the return to the '00s era of stability and sanity.

    Replies: @anon, @Not my Economy, @Justvisiting

    You guys need to be debating whether or not Trump will be assassinated in the next 4 months,

    Why?

  36. Despite Joe Biden being a better candidate than Hillary Clinton–he beat Bernie Sanders 65%-35% in a two-person race while she only beat Sanders 55%-45% in the same situation–Donald Trump’s best chance at reelection is that Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:

    A potential issue is that recent polls seem to suggest that, among potential voters with negative views of both candidates, Trump is now losing by a significant margin, whereas he won among such voters in 2016:

    Overall, 21% of all registered voters do not have a favorable opinion of either party’s nominee. Trump did well with this “double negative” group in 2016. The National Election Pool exit poll showed him ultimately winning their vote after Clinton held a small edge throughout the campaign. But he is getting swamped among these voters this time around. Biden leads by 55% to 21% among this group.

    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_070220/

  37. The best news for Trump seems to be that, frankly quite surprisingly to me, he still has relatively good favorability numbers on the economy, according to NYT/Siena:

    His approval rating is still narrowly positive on the issue of the economy, with 50 percent of voters giving him favorable marks compared with 45 percent saying the opposite.

    Since “It’s the economy, stupid!” seems to basically be the guiding principle of presidential elections, the optimistic spin is that, as protests fizzle out and Biden’s polling edge recedes, while the economy stays the same/gets better, the Republican advantage/bias of the Electoral College can carry Trump over the finish line to a narrow EC victory despite likely popular vote loss.

    Unfortunately, Trump’s numbers on handling of Covid-19 do not look good:

    Nearly three-fifths of voters disapprove of Mr. Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, including majorities of white voters and men. Self-described moderate voters disapproved of Mr. Trump on the coronavirus by a margin of more than two to one.

    Most of the country is also rejecting Mr. Trump’s call to reopen the economy as quickly as possible, even at the cost of exposing people to greater health risks. By a 21-point margin, voters said the federal government should prioritize containing the coronavirus, even if it hurts the economy, a view that aligns them with Mr. Biden.

    Just a third of voters said the government should focus on restarting the economy even if that entails greater public-health risks.

    Since Covid-19 doesn’t seem to be going away any time soon, that’s probably going to be an albatross around Trump’s neck going into the election. Excuse me, I meant to say, since the media-manufactured flu hoax that, for some unknowable reason, happens to keep coinciding with anomalously high excess mortality in regions the hoaxers claim Covid-19 is spreading in, will continue to be hoaxed by the media, that will be an albatross around Trump’s neck. (Wait, I’ve got it— the excess mortality is probably due to the government manufacturing fake death certificates to keep the hoax facade up! I jest, but that’s not too far from the lengths some coronavirus skeptics are going to these days.)

    Furthermore, I’m not sure that the economy will get better in the next few months, in the absence of an effective Covid-19 suppression strategy. It doesn’t seem like Sweden or Brazil’s economies are doing that well compared to their neighbors, and e.g. Texas has started rolling back its re-opening measures. Florida hasn’t, but its case numbers are…not looking good, to say the least.

  38. @Adam Smith
    @Realist

    "If my brain is no anymore not work, could I do this?"

    https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-6490-2.jpg

    Biden then began to go through all the common farm animals and the sounds they make...

    Replies: @Realist, @Nodwink

    I assume this is about the cognitive test Trump took at Walter Reed. According to Mediaite, this is the test:

    Connecting lettered and numbered dots in order
    Drawing a cube
    Drawing a clock (These tasks are worth up to five points)
    Correctly identifying pictures of a lion, a rhinoceros, and a camel (up to 3 points)
    Recalling a list of five words (no points)
    Reading a list of numbers (2 points)
    Reading a list of letters (1 point)
    Counting backwards from 100 by sevens (3 points)
    Repeating the phrases “I only know that John is the one to help today” and “The cat always hid
    under the couch when dogs were in the room. (2 points)
    Explaining the similarities between objects like “train – bicycle” and “watch – ruler” (2 points)
    Recalling the five words from earlier in the test, in any order (5 points)
    Knowing where you are, and what the date, time, and day of the week are. (6 points!)

  39. The more people see of Trump, directly, the more they like him.

    He should be finding ways to get himself in his own words in front of the public as much as possible.

    There will not be any Biden vs Trump debates. So figure something out

  40. @216
    @Nodwink

    It would be incredibly bizzare for Biden to win the Presidency, but for the Democrats to lose the House and fail to take the Senate. A lot of moderates would have to split their tickets.

    More likely, Trump comes back to a Dem Senate in addition to a Dem House.

    Will he be able to pull off a "reverse Mitterand" in 2022?

    Replies: @Nodwink

    There seems to be a real stench of defeat around Trump, and the Roger Stone thing may be an indication that The Donald himself sees the writing on the wall. I reckon he would have smashed Biden without corona.

  41. @JohnPlywood
    The coping is real in this comment section. Donald Trump and the Republican party have about a 1 in 100 chance of winning in November. You guys need to be debating whether or not Trump will be assassinated in the next 4 months, not whether he can win the election. He has presided over the greatest failure(s) in American history. And man, the headlines have been just devastating for right wingers lately... I strongly advise you to press your doctor about Thorazine injections if you actually believe Donald Trump can win. If you won't, I fear what you might do to yourself and your "loved" ones when he loses...

    Biden - Duckworth 2020. For the return to the '00s era of stability and sanity.

    Replies: @anon, @Not my Economy, @Justvisiting

    You guys need to be debating whether or not Trump will be assassinated in the next 4 months,

    Lmao is that a threat

    Post physique

    • LOL: JohnPlywood
  42. Biden’s foreign policy team:

    So if he wins, expect more Samantha Power-style “humanitarian” military interventions designed to rescue children in Yemen who identify as non-binary. The whole reason Trump was elected was because Americans are tired of this shit. (the wall thing helped too)

    Are Democrats cool with this? Do they even know about it? Is this what having a group of “experienced, professional” politicians means?

    • Replies: @216
    @Bragadocious

    A lot of white moderates get allergic about the US being out of step with the other "white" countries.

    A lot of Asians consider Trump to be both a "warmonger" and an "appeaser", simultaneously.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    , @nebulafox
    @Bragadocious

    These people are completely out of touch with reality. The degree of divorce between how the Beltway perceives foreign affairs and how average Americans do was a huge factor in the appeal of both Trump and Sanders in 2016. Indeed, anti-foreign entanglement sentiment is the one thing that everybody outside of the mandarinate seems to agree on. I've seen socialist doves and reactionary hawks unite on this one, single issue: no more stupid "humanitarian" wars.

    Dismantle the empire to save the republic, if it can be saved...

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Bragadocious

    They know Biden is great, Bernie Sanders said so and he keeps reminding us that Joe Biden is a good friend of his!

  43. @JohnPlywood
    The coping is real in this comment section. Donald Trump and the Republican party have about a 1 in 100 chance of winning in November. You guys need to be debating whether or not Trump will be assassinated in the next 4 months, not whether he can win the election. He has presided over the greatest failure(s) in American history. And man, the headlines have been just devastating for right wingers lately... I strongly advise you to press your doctor about Thorazine injections if you actually believe Donald Trump can win. If you won't, I fear what you might do to yourself and your "loved" ones when he loses...

    Biden - Duckworth 2020. For the return to the '00s era of stability and sanity.

    Replies: @anon, @Not my Economy, @Justvisiting

    Folks who follow politics look for clues in the months before an election. Often those clues fall far below the mass media radar.

    They usually take the form of upsets of incumbent politicians–as a way to see whether the electorate is moving to the left or to the right.

    Here we go:

    https://www.knoe.com/2020/07/12/jamie-mayo-concedes-monroe-mayoral-race/

    Heavily majority black city, nineteen year incumbent black mayor.

    White guy campaigns on law and order–and wins easily in a shocking upset.

    Hmmm–wonder what that might mean…..

  44. @A123

    Biden’s net favorability is as far underwater as the president’s is:
     
    Biden's negatives are going to get worse. Two key problems:

    -1- When Biden picks a VP it will offend one or more factions in the Left/Democrat coalition. Any Offense = Aggression. Aggression = Dogmatic Response.

    -2- The "Hide Biden" strategy was made possible by a crowded nominating field. The 1-on-1 race will focus voter attention on Biden. His limited and declining mental condition will scare a huge number of swing voters.

    Or maybe people really are ready for the meteoric rise of a third-party candidate:
     
    If you want to go for a 3rd party candidate, Cthulhu is your best option.

    PEACE 😇
    _______

    https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--Uoi_MqUz--/t_Preview/b_rgb:ffffff,c_limit,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_630/v1535684904/production/designs/3089297_0.jpg

    Replies: @Indiana Jack, @Adam Smith, @indocon, @Jus' Sayin'..., @TG, @Hypnotoad666, @ChrisZ

    That’s a terrifically slick graphic, and a slogan that will resonate with a lot of undecideds.

    I count 21 stars adorning the candidate’s bulbous mantle. Any esoteric reason for that number? Or is it just the number of states that constitute his base?

  45. @Justvisiting
    @advancedatheist

    Compare the senile Joe Biden with the young, vigorous, and eloquent John F. Kennedy.

    How far we have fallen.

    Replies: @Oswald Spengler

    A few days ago, I was watching clips of one of the 1984 Reagan-Mondale debates and was amazed at the level of discourse, how serious both candidates were. But then again, thirty six years ago, this was still a serious country, with a (more or less) sane ruling class.

  46. @Bragadocious
    Biden's foreign policy team:

    https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1282429310696140801

    So if he wins, expect more Samantha Power-style "humanitarian" military interventions designed to rescue children in Yemen who identify as non-binary. The whole reason Trump was elected was because Americans are tired of this shit. (the wall thing helped too)

    Are Democrats cool with this? Do they even know about it? Is this what having a group of "experienced, professional" politicians means?

    Replies: @216, @nebulafox, @Audacious Epigone

    A lot of white moderates get allergic about the US being out of step with the other “white” countries.

    A lot of Asians consider Trump to be both a “warmonger” and an “appeaser”, simultaneously.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @216

    I have never met anybody Chinese who does not think Trump does not have a plan of some kind. They disagree on what that plan is, but they all think he knows what he's doing. This was a couple of years ago, granted.

    Since I believe Trump has no plan and is just winging it as he goes, those kinds of conversations are always fun.

  47. @anon
    The subsequent electoral map shows in red states where Trump’s net favorability is positive, in blue states where Biden’s net favorability is positive, in light brown states where both candidates’ net favorability is negative, and in invisible states where both candidates’ net favorability is positive:

    I cannot see the invisible states. Please fix your map.

    Replies: @Audacious Epigone, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    I cannot see the invisible states. Please fix your map.

    AE’s talking about Lake Wobegon, where all the candidates are above average.

  48. Ranked-choice voting might improve things…

    How would ranked-choice voting, or proportional representation for that matter, work with a federal legislature and an equally federal two-stage presidential election?

    Sounds less like a can of corn than a can of worms.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @Reg Cæsar

    The witless virtue signalers who count votes have enough trouble counting them once--with ranked choice voting the confusion and delay would be catastrophic--and hilarious if you have a dark sense of humor.

    Replies: @anon

    , @Audacious Epigone
    @Reg Cæsar

    For starters, it would open up access to public funding for larger third parties like libertarians and greens. There'd also be a big psychological effect--if in the first round of a senate or presidential vote, the libertarian (useful as an example since it's the largest third party in the country) garnered 20% of the vote, people would realize voting outside of the two faces of the Uniparty might not be an effort in futility after all.

  49. @Reg Cæsar

    Ranked-choice voting might improve things...
     
    How would ranked-choice voting, or proportional representation for that matter, work with a federal legislature and an equally federal two-stage presidential election?

    Sounds less like a can of corn than a can of worms.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @Audacious Epigone

    The witless virtue signalers who count votes have enough trouble counting them once–with ranked choice voting the confusion and delay would be catastrophic–and hilarious if you have a dark sense of humor.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Justvisiting

    Yeah, a ranked ballot is sorta kinda an IQ test because "If - then - else" is elementary logic. Some of the D's most cherished yellow-dog voters would be...challenged....by such a thing.

    But really, D's will never go for ranked choice ballots because they'd be too difficult to quickly fill out in the back seat of a car parked in the city garage after the polls have closed. As a result, bozoes like Al Franken would be deprived of their rightful seat in the Senate. Such a crime against humanity cannot be allowed!

  50. anon[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @Justvisiting
    @Reg Cæsar

    The witless virtue signalers who count votes have enough trouble counting them once--with ranked choice voting the confusion and delay would be catastrophic--and hilarious if you have a dark sense of humor.

    Replies: @anon

    Yeah, a ranked ballot is sorta kinda an IQ test because “If – then – else” is elementary logic. Some of the D’s most cherished yellow-dog voters would be…challenged….by such a thing.

    But really, D’s will never go for ranked choice ballots because they’d be too difficult to quickly fill out in the back seat of a car parked in the city garage after the polls have closed. As a result, bozoes like Al Franken would be deprived of their rightful seat in the Senate. Such a crime against humanity cannot be allowed!

  51. @216
    @Bragadocious

    A lot of white moderates get allergic about the US being out of step with the other "white" countries.

    A lot of Asians consider Trump to be both a "warmonger" and an "appeaser", simultaneously.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    I have never met anybody Chinese who does not think Trump does not have a plan of some kind. They disagree on what that plan is, but they all think he knows what he’s doing. This was a couple of years ago, granted.

    Since I believe Trump has no plan and is just winging it as he goes, those kinds of conversations are always fun.

  52. @Bragadocious
    Biden's foreign policy team:

    https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1282429310696140801

    So if he wins, expect more Samantha Power-style "humanitarian" military interventions designed to rescue children in Yemen who identify as non-binary. The whole reason Trump was elected was because Americans are tired of this shit. (the wall thing helped too)

    Are Democrats cool with this? Do they even know about it? Is this what having a group of "experienced, professional" politicians means?

    Replies: @216, @nebulafox, @Audacious Epigone

    These people are completely out of touch with reality. The degree of divorce between how the Beltway perceives foreign affairs and how average Americans do was a huge factor in the appeal of both Trump and Sanders in 2016. Indeed, anti-foreign entanglement sentiment is the one thing that everybody outside of the mandarinate seems to agree on. I’ve seen socialist doves and reactionary hawks unite on this one, single issue: no more stupid “humanitarian” wars.

    Dismantle the empire to save the republic, if it can be saved…

  53. @Bragadocious
    Biden's foreign policy team:

    https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1282429310696140801

    So if he wins, expect more Samantha Power-style "humanitarian" military interventions designed to rescue children in Yemen who identify as non-binary. The whole reason Trump was elected was because Americans are tired of this shit. (the wall thing helped too)

    Are Democrats cool with this? Do they even know about it? Is this what having a group of "experienced, professional" politicians means?

    Replies: @216, @nebulafox, @Audacious Epigone

    They know Biden is great, Bernie Sanders said so and he keeps reminding us that Joe Biden is a good friend of his!

  54. @Reg Cæsar

    Ranked-choice voting might improve things...
     
    How would ranked-choice voting, or proportional representation for that matter, work with a federal legislature and an equally federal two-stage presidential election?

    Sounds less like a can of corn than a can of worms.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @Audacious Epigone

    For starters, it would open up access to public funding for larger third parties like libertarians and greens. There’d also be a big psychological effect–if in the first round of a senate or presidential vote, the libertarian (useful as an example since it’s the largest third party in the country) garnered 20% of the vote, people would realize voting outside of the two faces of the Uniparty might not be an effort in futility after all.

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